KFC Radio - Mike Posner, Barstool Rundown Controversy, The Year of Mental Health Vs Us, #FreeBritney, Hamilton

Episode Date: July 7, 2020

Subscribe, rate, and leave a review! -KFC and Feits speak on the controversy of the 2015 Barstool Rundown clip and how it was handled. -(18:00)We discuss how the our quest to make it the year of ment...al health has been near impossible. -(28:00) Kanye is "running for president" -(34:30) KFC is determined to #FreeBritney Spears -(46:00) Cam Newton to the Patriots -(56:30) David Price opts out of MLB season -(1:02:00)Patrick Mahomes secures the bag -(1:11:30) Hamilton review -(1:20:30)Top 5: Hamilton Songs -(1:34:30) Voicemails -(1:57:18) Interview with Mike Posner discussing the success of his music career and his journey walking across the United States. Let us know what you think on twitter: @kfcradio @kfcbarstool @feitsbarstool @mikeposner Check out daily clips on our youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/KFCradioYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/kfcr

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, KFC Radio listeners, you can find every episode of KFC Radio on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. The constant at Barstool is Lenny Kravitz. Every blogger has talked about how they wanted to fuck Lenny Kravitz. It's another edition of KFC Radio on the Barstool Sports Network, live back in the studio where I'm happy to be. This is my safe place. I'm very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very happy to be back. You were done with it.
Starting point is 00:00:44 You were over it. Yeah, yeah. Which I think a lot of, very happy to be back. You were done with it. You were over it. Yeah. Yeah. Which I think a lot of people reached their breaking point. Some people had fun with it. Some people. I had fun with it until I didn't have fun with it. And then it became like really not fun.
Starting point is 00:00:54 It was like, oh, shit. Okay. And then I felt almost bad when I was like talking to people like, well, I can do this standing on my head. What's the problem? If they were feeling like I was feeling like a couple months into it, couple weeks into it they were probably like shut the fuck up man like i'm happy you're enjoying yourself but fuck you which is um i guess uh something uh i'm i'm learning uh as i get older that not everyone uh always agrees with me no which is um it's it's it's a i think that's an interesting thing to learn though because i do
Starting point is 00:01:27 believe that in this business like trying to grow and be and make a name and become popular being like well not everyone agrees with me doesn't play you know what i mean so like i'm happy that i did things the way i did for the first 10 years where i was like this is right you're wrong fuck off all opinions that are not mine are incorrect and you're a pussy because I think it got us places. It got me places. But now a little bit older, I'm like, well, you know, especially once I think
Starting point is 00:01:53 what are we talking about right now? Life. Life in general. Life in general and then leading into the Barstool drama because I think when I was younger, I was at i hadn't like gone through anything in life so i had no reason to ever think that like my gut was wrong and that my thoughts were wrong everything fucking worked out like always literally everything i ever did worked out
Starting point is 00:02:16 and then uh you know when you're forced to like look at yourself in the mirror and be like oh boy like missed up there shouldn't have said that bad problem there miss you know whatever there like all of a sudden you started to think like all right i can't like always rely on the old gut here and so uh like that applies to content as well now i think that's all different uh it goes hand in hand i think it's a little different than what happened with with that rundown where like i think that was at a time in barstool where like we know i don't know we didn't cover any of that kind of shit we were never talking like anything other than just like goofing around and fucking around you know absolutely so and i and because we're probably not responding we should be talking we shouldn't yeah we absolutely shouldn't but it gets it becomes impossible where i mean how could
Starting point is 00:02:55 you not talk about this shit right i remember what at this point a month ago three weeks ago whatever we we had like a weekish time period where we weren't talking about Floyd and protests. And it was like, all right, this is getting silly. Like we can't be at the forefront of all things internet and not be talking about this. So it's just like the internet changed. And so we had to go that direction. And all of a sudden I'm out of my depth. I'm in over my head talking about shit.
Starting point is 00:03:18 I don't know what I'm talking about. Now, four years ago, I was like, I don't know what the fuck's Kaepernick doing. This is annoying. I don't fucking care. I know for a fact my gut reaction was, this is dumb. And then it's weird that it was Chaps, but Chaps wrote on a blog about it and was like, this is what I fought for. And my reaction and my thought process of it changed within like 15 minutes, I feel like. But it was like my gut was
Starting point is 00:03:45 like why you do that and it's like you learn 15 seconds of stuff well okay that makes sense there's like there's two types i think you know what we came to know is that like colin kaepernick like believes deeply about this i thought it was like you know you're you're another headache athlete like you're just causing drama for the sake of causing drama and then it's like no man this is like the most important fucking crusade i've ever been on and by the way worked like best protest ever totally changed my opinion on protesting changed my opinion on everything um and people keep saying like oh like four years later his opinion is going to be different it was probably similar to you it's probably like four days later i was like oh shit but you know what you see that you're like oh god
Starting point is 00:04:22 when i saw it i i you you know, I hate when people are like, I don't even know who that person was. I mean, I know that person was that person is the same fucking like loudmouth Mick that I am today. I know I know what I am. But I was like, oh, I don't remember ever being on the other side of this one. That's what I mean. I've given a zillion takes and you can show me videos.
Starting point is 00:04:38 I can read blogs back of myself and be like, that was funny. I don't I don't remember writing that, you know, or like that was cringeworthy. I don't remember saying that. And I might have changed my opinion like five minutes later if I learned like the facts of the matter. But I've been working on this theory that – I've been saying when the mob comes to try to cancel you, you shouldn't like bend – you shouldn't bend down to them. If you want to apologize, you did something wrong, fine. But if you're doing it for the Jemele hills of the world and the mob not great if you also don't apologize just because you have a bunch of diehard fans who who say you shouldn't apologize that's the same shit it's just it's like politics like left and
Starting point is 00:05:12 right it's the same it's the same thing where you're being persuaded to act or say things that you don't believe in so i'm never gonna like bow to the mob i'm never gonna just like cater and pander to my fans i'm gonna say what i think needs to be said i think that that fan base that group of fans are are people who like they don't want to apologize because they go to their fucking shitty cube job and they hate their boss that they have to you know kneel down before and they hate their co-workers they have to work with and so they're like i don't want to apologize you guys don't have to apologize so you shouldn't it's like no that's not right either yeah i mean i completely disagree with that i thought that was something that was sorely lacking in our response as a whole as a
Starting point is 00:05:48 company i don't think not great it was i mean i think i think like top to bottom i think we did an f-minus job from everyone involved now although i'm gonna give you a little credit here i liked your blog a lot thank you i read yours yours did it i thought it it was what happened with all that was going to need a good response from Barcelona. And I thought everyone, almost to a person, became the worst version of themselves. Where the part where you're like, that's not what you needed to be, man. Where Dave did it. I thought Dan kind of did it. I thought Dan, Dave does, I've never called Dan middleman Dan.
Starting point is 00:06:21 But I thought Dan's response was kind of like a lot of words to say nothing I thought Erica kind of did it like a whoa that was before me kind of deal I thought Willie and Brandon obviously I thought that you can say that word if you want but I thought you put yourself your other co-workers in a horrible position because now they didn't even know that was the headline of the blog or the headline of the podcast and now they have to defend being on that show I thought everyone dropped the ball yeah yeah no no, it was not great, and that's like more fucking evidence. It was just kind of like, there just wasn't an I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Yeah. I mean, you already had a blog, I'm changed, but like, I don't think it's hard to say, because again, you don't have to apologize to the mob. I don't think you're apologizing to Tyler, to Willie, to the fans who are like him. Also to me! Not me, like I'm talking about if that was me in the video. And guess what, this will happen to me at some point because i've definitely
Starting point is 00:07:06 said things yeah that i'm gonna regret because i fucking say everything i regret all the time right and if i saw that video of me i'd be like god i'm sorry that person existed yeah like i i i'm not apologizing to anyone else i'm being as selfish as possible here right i'm sorry to me right like i'm sorry i act like that it's like when you look at pictures of Feidelberg in high school. Oh, the fucking Puka necklace. Oh, no. It was a fucking shamrock. And you want to know a real weird tie-in with that? The only reason I don't have that shamrock right now is because a cop snuck up behind me with a knife and cut it off.
Starting point is 00:07:41 What? I was going to jail. I was getting arrested for uh under drinking like you can't have like and you can't have it it was like you had to tie it on right and i was like i can't take this off and the cop was like one in the inside was like ah it's fine and the woman who arrested me snuck up behind me with like a switchblade and i was like fuck this and cut it off there was one cop who was like yeah whatever like this kid slide there was another person was like do you see that asshole yeah no we're sticking it to him in every fucking way possible.
Starting point is 00:08:06 She was the absolute worst. Did be the biggest favorite of my life, though. Big time. You should thank that lady. Yeah, man. I mean, it was, I think there was a lot of like half-ass, there was a lot of half measures all around that. You know, you say one thing and then you undo it.
Starting point is 00:08:21 We got a lot of, Barstool, the best company in the world in the work or whatever, David. I'm so sick of that, man. A lot of emails like we're the best. And we are. I agree with that. But just sometimes that just isn't what has to be said. Yeah, and it doesn't mean like 100% of the time. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:38 And you can have a screw up that's a big one. And I mean I think the biggest difference for me was like when i four years ago whatever that was we're like i don't think we you know willie and tyler and all those guys were here i don't think so when i now have it sounds like so stupid that i would need like my own personal experience to really get it but i did and when those guys are telling me like you know this is a pain in my ass when you act like this like well i'm fucking sorry and if you can't say that i mean then you're just being a jerk and and like you know and then i extend that further it's like if there's any fans who think who feel that way too there are fans who are cut from the same cloth then i'm sorry to those people and the mob and the people who hate like i'm not
Starting point is 00:09:19 i'm not sorry to them i'm not capitulating to them but the people who i know i you know i directly affect like yeah my bad right i was a dick i'm sorry and that's not like a novel concept like there were some people who were like you know thank you for that like uh okay you're welcome fucking like owning up to really fucking somebody over okay i'll take it i guess i don't know um it wasn't and i i will again i want to give you too much credit because i i avoided reading your blog until like an hour ago because i knew we were going to talk about it oh yeah i just didn't want to read it because i didn't want to be disappointed and i wasn't well good i'm happy i mean that doesn't mean a lot though it's like i tried to be as you know i i do uh we've gone back and forth about cancel culture forever and i and i
Starting point is 00:10:06 think that by the way i think a lot of people are coming around to what we were saying like who's even being canceled who lists the people who have been canceled it's like or kelly and fucking uh bill cosby and um what's it called the harvey weinstein who were all just criminals right they're not they're getting canceled by the police yeah yeah rapist yeah right uh everyone else is like, there's consequences. Now it's almost getting cliche in the other direction. Everyone's saying there's consequences for your actions, which is true. But they're all just kind of becoming like sound bites.
Starting point is 00:10:33 And I think that anybody trying to get you fired is lame. I think anybody, when Jemele Hill has her own issues, the same day, within an hour, she's got to have it. What happened with her? She was the one coming at us within an hour. She was? Yeah. Well, she quote tweeted it and was like, she said, consider the source, which I think is funny. It's like, yeah, consider the source.
Starting point is 00:10:55 You're talking about a bunch of fucking clowns. We don't know what we're talking about. It's like Fox News is a problem because you're supposed to be smart and CNN is supposed to be unbiased. It's like, no, yeah, that's a problem for Barstool. It's like, consider the source. I agree. But she came at us. And then within an hour, she had a tweet that said, oh, all my friends are calling Manny Ramirez Manny the tranny.
Starting point is 00:11:17 Like, that's so funny. When he was using, like, estrogen to hide his. Oh, yeah. And she she had to have her may a couple she was like i i you know i apologize for insensitive remarks that i thought were funny at the time that i learned were not i was like you're doing the same but like but also like it's it's reached a point where with this is like everyone's going to do this yes if you're in entertainment at some point i i guarantee you we
Starting point is 00:11:45 will say words on this podcast that are not allowed to be said in 10 years, and we'll apologize for it because we'll probably have grown and we probably wouldn't want to use those words anymore anyway. Right. But that's just the way it's going to go. Always. It's just, the world is going to go that way now. And it's not just in entertainment.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Because everyone now leaves a trail of everything. Right. And at some point, cultures change and society changes. And there's ebbs and flows and words you say and words you don't say. And you're going to feel like, fuck, well, at that time, we said that word, man. I always talk about Michael Scott has it. When he's like, when I was growing up, gay men don't. Or whatever it is he has. And now it means homosexual or whatever.
Starting point is 00:12:24 It's the best. And that's what's gonna happen what's gonna happen there's one in friday night lights that's so bad what is it remember we like uncovered oh my god i think there's like an f word in it it's like it's bad this was like prime time nbc television friday night family programming and like jason street is talking with riggins and they say some shit that I was like oh my fucking god that at the time was not a blip on the radar that's what's funny too as you look this up I'll say
Starting point is 00:12:54 there are times where I'll give a take or I'll say something oh man it's not Street it's fucking I forget the guy he's paralyzed with. When you're done putting the newbie in that gay woods here, let me know. You are talking to a gay man, Herb. I don't mean gay isn't homosexual.
Starting point is 00:13:21 I mean gay isn't retarded. That was just Thursday nights on NBC. Like 2006. Oh my God, that's so wildly offensive. It's insane. It's insane that that was just on. That was a kid show on NBC. Like 2006.
Starting point is 00:13:43 So yeah, we're all going to fucking have these things. We're all going to have these things. Anybody who's made their name a little bit, you've said some controversial shit at some time. Because if you're entirely vanilla, you'll never gain a following. I mean, Jemele Hill has an article praising, saying that David Tyree is brave for his anti-gay marriage remarks. I don't think that's a good one. Ah, that's fine. No, great. But I'm also not going to crucify her because I got a million too.
Starting point is 00:14:04 It's like everybody has said some shit. Everybody, especially in the public eye, has said some shit. And if you come for someone, the mob's coming for you next. And like everybody, Muj, the fucking kid from Barstool, has tweets immediately after like denouncing all of Barstool for being racist. It's going to happen to everyone. So let's just fucking stop. I don't even think it's a problem that you've said words that just aren't said anymore right that's just the way the world works right you had words that you were young and those were those are the words you used yep and now we have
Starting point is 00:14:32 different words because you learn about those facts of life and why words are good why your words are bad like there isn't anyone just because you can't grow grow up that way there isn't anyone who hasn't said words that are bad words. Right. It doesn't make sense to me to get mad about it. Sometimes I try to think of what words are next. I don't know. I don't know. It's kind of like the thing I feel like, what was it?
Starting point is 00:14:56 One of the all-time cold takes in 1986, I think, the head of the US Patent Office. Said like all ideas. Said everything that's been invented has been invented. And like no more things can exist. I feel like that guy, I feel like I think we got all the bad words out. Well, I'm going to be wrong. I'm going to be something else.
Starting point is 00:15:14 Sure, there's more on the way. So until then, we just got to keep doing what we're doing. And I really think it all comes down to like an ego thing. It's like when you are a lot of people who are in a position of like popularity in the media, if you're like white dude who always – like I said with me before, always had success, never had any problems, you're like, I can't apologize. That would weaken my stance or whatever. It's like you've never – there are plenty of people who have had to do far worse than apologize for doing something wrong, and you're just not used to – it's like a kid. It's like you're just – you don't want to be in trouble
Starting point is 00:15:45 I should not be in trouble you won't be if you just say sorry and that doesn't mean you're lesser than and maybe you lose a few fans but you gain some more grow up, get over yourself get over your ego and your pride and say sorry to the people you fucked over
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Starting point is 00:18:13 face is not ugly so speaking of cold takes i'll introduce it as such but i'm also going to defend it at the same time all-timetime cold take from KFC Radio on January 2nd, we declared 2020 the year of mental health. We were going to get right. We were going to fix what's going on between the years. We were going to go to therapy.
Starting point is 00:18:37 Now we did. We got going. We got derailed. The world was like oh you guys are gonna get some help i'll bring in the big guns the universe knew yeah like even the fucked up ones are you guys don't get no no no no no no you don't get to get better balance here if you guys get in shape this whole thing tips over that's so true but here's what i'll say here's why i don't think we're wrong You got to keep things balanced here. If you guys get in shape, this whole thing tips over.
Starting point is 00:19:06 That's so true. But here's what I'll say. Here's why I don't think we're wrong. I think it has become, it's almost like when I go to the gym, when I say I'm going to go to the gym, what I always say, like, I got to get, like, the clothes first, and I got to gear up first. That's what we did.
Starting point is 00:19:22 We took note of mental health. I did. You were always a little ahead of the curve on that. I was like, for the first time, I really got to address my mental health. And now, because the world got so fucked up, everybody is talking about their mental health. Everybody worried about their quarantine effects and fear of corona and then racial shit.
Starting point is 00:19:38 Everybody is now saying, let's talk about mental health, which I think is a very big first step for mental health. That's true. So it's like year, it's like negative uh one year negative one of mental health you know and then 2021 is the year i mean it's a it's a big year for because guess what i've had multiple anxiety attacks today it's like 3 p.m they started at at 3 a.m., buddy. I was sitting in my bedroom doing the... Dude, they're terrible.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Was it five things you can touch, four things you can see? Yeah. Five things you can see, four things you can touch, three things you can hear, two things you can smell, one thing you can taste. And you're just like... You're eating Sour Patch Kids? I'm trying to get things going.
Starting point is 00:20:21 Then I laid in bed until 8 a.m. Yeah, man. I was like, this sucks. This is the worst. It is crazy. I mean, it's a big year for it. I mean, it's not. I don't even think it's a cold take.
Starting point is 00:20:31 I think we knocked that take out of the park. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I came around on it. It's not the year that everyone got healthy, but it's the year that it took the forefront. It is absolutely. Time person of the year, mental health. Just like when Hitler was when hitler was on there good we're not saying it's a good thing we're just saying it's talked about bro
Starting point is 00:20:49 it's a big deal i had i had like in all time like perfect storm of a breakdown uh last week so i obviously it was not doing well for the last month or so i was kind of paying attention i was hinting at on the podcast i was like i'm done with this i can't that wasn't like coming out right and saying it but like i was not doing well for a while and i'd been like like every day was just like a grind and a slog and it was just like every day you woke up and you're just like i just need to do what i can like almost like a kid with his chores like i need to do what i need to do so i can get back to bed that's all i need to do right now so non-interrupt i made a fart noise with my hands it was my hands okay continue sorry and it was it was like every day was just survive the day and so like probably two weeks ago right
Starting point is 00:21:35 we were going out we were at our friend's house and um i had made it till 6 p.m i was like that's it i like every like the moment when you can be like okay it's not crazy to go to bed right now so I was like I was like I was like at 6 p.m. I'm going to bed and everyone was like we're like drinking and going to parties like I'm not I'm not doing any of that I'm I'm staying here and thank you for having me stay here but I'm gonna go to bed and go upstairs and I'm staying in like this loft bedroom where she has a one-bedroom house I'm staying in the loft bedroom and my girlfriend comes to bed and she just like kind of casually asked like hey are you okay and that's you know when you when you when you hear that when someone's finally like universal like
Starting point is 00:22:16 floodgates bro i cried so fucking hard it was it was like sex like we switched positions bro i cried missionary i cried little spoon i cried big spoon i think i cried i was doggy at one point like it was i cried so fucking hard we made love man no isn't that crazy where it's like i feel like it's like a toxin in your body coming out. Like your tears are like holding the fucking bad in and it's like, get this out of my fucking body. And then, but like, and like we were on two twin beds. So like, I'm falling in the middle of trying to pull back up and it was like on this bed. And I'm just like, I'm like, I just want to stop being sad. And like ugly, ugly cries, real fucking bad. And then finally I'm like, okay just want to stop being sad. And like ugly, ugly cries.
Starting point is 00:23:05 Real fucking bad. And then finally I'm like, okay, it's all out. I'm going to go to the bathroom real quick. And I climb down the stairs from the loft. And like not a very close friend is just sitting there. No. Like he's not a bad friend. He's not a great friend you cry to.
Starting point is 00:23:27 He's not. I was just like, hey, dude. Stop. Yo, he's got to read the room and leave. I think he was asleep. So I think he was just fake being asleep. Like, I was inspecting the body. You know how some animals can, if a body has died
Starting point is 00:23:48 in a poisonous way, they know not to eat him? Right? Like, I was, like, kind of, like, breathing. I'm like, is he faking this asleep, or is he real fucking asleep right now? I would commend him if he, like, if he really couldn't go anywhere else, if he was just, like, I'm gonna just lay here. It's like when your roommates having sex in college. I'm gonna just pretend I'm asleep here, except it's way more awkward.
Starting point is 00:24:06 Yeah, like, way more. Like, bro, I came down. My shirt was, like, stretched out. I was, like, covered in snot and fucking wetness. And I was just like, are you going to be kidding me? That flexed straight from a movie, man. That is straight from a goddamn movie. But anyway, things are better now yeah i mean it was also so funny like my girlfriend and i never talked about again either yep the next morning
Starting point is 00:24:30 just got in the car i was like i'm sorry for crying so much it's okay whatever which is probably not the best thing either but hey that's like again big step big you know what two steps forward maybe one step back we'll keep it moving here uh your mental health man what your mental health your mental health dude that's it's on it would i mean it wouldn't have happened in the in the year that wasn't about mental health wouldn't happen in 2019 you wouldn't have cried you wouldn't you wouldn't have gotten it all out so uh it for real though i mean it is i think that it was a bad time for a lot of people and i i think that's one thing that I, like, some of my jokes and shit are kind of, like, in question now. But I definitely believe.
Starting point is 00:25:11 I used to be like, you know, you came from a good upbringing. Why are you sad? Not realizing, you know, rich people can be sad. Like, happy people. Happy people can be sad. Those are the worst ones. I know I sound stupid, but happy people, yeah. Those are the worst ones.
Starting point is 00:25:23 I can't. How do I fix it? You're like, why am I? You have no right to be sad. Those are the worst ones. I know that sounds stupid, but happy people, yeah. Those are the worst ones. I can't, how do I fix it? You're like, why am I, you have no right to be sad. Absolutely. If you're like poor and down and out or fucking, you know, I'm not saying it's a good thing if you're like abused or you have problems, but at least you know what's going on. It's like, this is the problem I need to fix. When you're happy, when everything's good, I should say, it's like, I don't know, my
Starting point is 00:25:42 brain just won't let me be happy. It's fucked. Your brain's betraying you. When I talk to my therapist, she's like, so what do you want to talk about? I'm like, I don't know. My brain just won't let me be happy. It's fucked. Your brain's betraying you. When I talk to my therapist, she's like, so what do you want to talk about? I'm like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:25:48 I don't have anything. Right. There's nothing. Nothing and everything all at the same time. Like, you tell me, you're the fucking doctor.
Starting point is 00:25:54 And I'm sure they're like, okay, I know what that means. I do believe that's probably a cliche response. So, anybody who's feeling that way, not alone.
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Starting point is 00:28:25 we'll start with Kanye, who's noted, admitted, bipolar. You never know what you're going to get with him, and you never know if it's real or not because of things like that. He's running for president. Something that we should all take very seriously, right?
Starting point is 00:28:41 Why does he get to run for president? He tweeted it. But why do we take very seriously, right? Why does he get to run for president? Because he said so. He tweeted it. But why do we take it seriously? I was wondering that. And also, how seriously are we taking it in the sense that, like, are we taking it seriously to make fun of it? Because, like, I'm also running for president. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:56 I'm not going to do anything else other than just say it. And that's what Kanye has not taken any steps. He just tweeted. He has not, like, signed up. He has not gotten petition signatures. He has not presented a platform. And he already missed, I think, like, eight states. eight states you have to by this deadline you would have to say i'm a registered like independent candidate and he missed that so i think he has like states he could not even get votes for so it's like now so you're not running
Starting point is 00:29:16 so you're not running for president but so i was thinking because like this always this happens all the time there are always like crazy people running for president that just don't go but i don't think like i don't even think we're entertaining that this year. Like remember like in 2016 when like they'd have the debates and they were fucking clowns up there. 50 people on the stage. The Republican debates had like 20 people on stage. Right. And I guess we're not doing that this year because Trump's the incumbent.
Starting point is 00:29:41 No more. They would be the ones causing the scene. Yeah, there's not anyone there and like the Democrats I guess already did their debates but it was they had a bunch of I mean I remember a bunch of them
Starting point is 00:29:50 being on stage that's true they were fucking a hundred of them that's right yeah nevermind I'm not talking about we did it already but so like when
Starting point is 00:29:55 what is the cutoff you know those people were at least politicians and you could say like you don't have the following or the constituency or whatever but like
Starting point is 00:30:02 you know Kanye has but like that like that Mary Ann Williamson or whatever her name was? What was she, a fucking life coach from California? Probably more legit than that girl, Kanye. Is she an actual politician, Marianne Williamson or Williams, whatever her name is? Yeah, she was, and she said some dumb shit. She had some, she was just like, she's like an Earth mother.
Starting point is 00:30:20 She might be an elected official, but she was definitely more Earth mother than elected official. Did you see that guy on Twitter? It said like congressman with a blue check who was saying Beyonce is Italian and not black. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then, like, doubling down, talking about, like, a whole conspiracy. And it's like, for the people who follow social media and believe in, like, the blue check and all that shit, they're probably looking at that being like, all right, this guy is, like, an elected official. Yeah, Marianne Williamson.
Starting point is 00:30:41 We're looking at her Wikipedia now. A spiritual leader. An author and an activist. Like, bro, you just got a fucking... Oprah's spiritual advisor. How the fuck did this girl get on a stage? Come on. Are you kidding me? That's where it's just like, you know, your whole
Starting point is 00:30:57 party's a joke. And that's why I do think that Kanye... But there are people... I think Kanye fans, like the, the stands of the Kanye world are probably like, yeah. And then there are people who are like,
Starting point is 00:31:10 he's going to take votes away from Biden. And that's how Trump's going to win. And honestly, if that happens, we deserve what we get. Like, then that's democracy. And like,
Starting point is 00:31:19 that's on you for voting for this dude. I can't imagine like, because he's going to be a writer. No one fucking writes in. I can't imagine. Like,'s going to be a write-in no one fucking writes in I can't imagine like but I mean I said all this on a video and a lot of people were like this is exactly what people said about Trump now I think Trump made
Starting point is 00:31:33 a lot more concrete steps to make this happen than Kanye has and probably will I don't know you know people definitely people thought about as a joke with Trump I thought about as a joke on election night. I was like, this is still like, this is a publicity stunt for his new TV show. And then he just fucking won.
Starting point is 00:31:51 He'd also been doing it for like four years. He at least dipped his toe into the political foray of being a fucking birther and shit like that. Yeah, even political banter on social media is like, you're angling. He was a regular guest on Fox News and Fox and Friends. banter on on on like social media it's like you're you're angry he was like he was the fucking he was a regular guest on fox news and now but i mean you could say like kanye was wearing the make america great hat uh again that's just you're just wearing a hat right this is like like he kind of never made a political statement that i can think of i mean yeah it's only like appearances with trump wearing the hat um i mean i'm sure he spoke on trump at one point though when that
Starting point is 00:32:23 happened i'm sure people asked him, and he said something. Yeah, he probably said something. He said he's like a free thinker. Yeah, like something like, you know, you're just as bad if you, like, condemn him without listening to him. But, I mean, he just put out a new song. He has a new album coming. He just did the Yeezy Gap thing. He's married to a Kardashian.
Starting point is 00:32:39 He's missed the deadlines. He hasn't taken any other steps to become president. Let's relax. It's a stunt but but then paris hilton announced too well she i mean i think that was like the best example like she just tweeted it i don't think paris hilton wants to really run she's just like well fuck it paris for president so i mean the top reply one of my favorite pictures ever it's paris hilton in one of those dresses you remember you remember the fad where you like your clit was exposed they were such low-rise clothes and a white tank top with her hands up in the air,
Starting point is 00:33:06 and it just says, stop being poor on her shirt. So great. Love it. I would vote for her before I vote for Kanye. But that's an interesting question, though. It's like, okay, what is it? Why are we taking, we're not, but why are some people taking him seriously?
Starting point is 00:33:23 Is it, you have to be, is it like if an athlete has a lot of – if Tom Brady announced it, he's like, well, he's won championships. Kanye's won Grammys. He has a lot of fans. He might win. Why would that be taken seriously and not others? But who is taking – is there a single – has there been an article written? The only thing I've seen from credible, not credible people, but people I know actually care about this stuff, were saying when Trump
Starting point is 00:33:50 wins because he took votes away from the right. I just can't imagine he's taking that many votes. I hope not, bro. He's not going to get, he's not going to be in debates. He's not going to be. He's going to, like, Kanye tweeted it once in July.
Starting point is 00:34:06 And then... Elections in November. That dickhead Elon Musk. He did it too. Elon Musk endorsed him. And then it's like... That guy fucking endorsed everybody. The billionaires of the world.
Starting point is 00:34:13 Yeah, really. It's like... The last two endorsements for fucking Elon Musk are Dave Portnoy and Kanye West. Maybe that dude should just stick to making cars. Same thing, though. It's like... Elon Musk makes cars and rockets.
Starting point is 00:34:25 It doesn't mean you know about, like, ruling society. You know, I don't know who does know about it anymore, to be honest. Nobody's really inspiring, but I don't think it's going to be Kanye. If whoever does become president, first executive order is to throw Britney Spears' dad in jail. This fucking scumbag. That is happening. I am taking this upon myself. I am going to free Britney.
Starting point is 00:34:54 You blogged it, and I know you talked about it on the rundown today. Don't get it twisted. I mean this sincerely. I am appalled by what's happening to Britney Spears. What is happening? Explain this to me. Since 2008. That's 12 12 years she's only 38 so since she was like a kid basically um she has been under what they call a conservatorship which is basically legal legal guardianship which is almost exclusively
Starting point is 00:35:20 when you're like 98 years old and you're or you're mentally disabled to a point that you cannot like make your own decisions or you're like a harm to yourself and others like you have to be fucking crazy demented or like unable to live and then you have then you then you have someone make decisions for you and you can't you can't sign anything for yourself you can't you can't make any you know you have like a legal guardian who makes all your decisions for you. That's happening to Britney Spears as a 38-year-old woman, and it's been happening since she was like 20 or 26. How did she get forced into that? So that's what's weird.
Starting point is 00:35:55 They're saying that – I mean so it started in 2008. 2007 was when she shaved her head and attacked the car with the umbrella. So I'm not saying that Britney Spears has psychological issues because I mean, she, she was in the business and she was born. She was on another level, like famous, famous when she was 15. That's another thing, by the way,
Starting point is 00:36:11 she was 16 years old during hit me baby one more time. And everyone was like, Oh, fuck this girl. That's, that's going to weigh on you. And I'm sure she had like sexual stalkers that she had to deal with. And I think,
Starting point is 00:36:21 you know, she was kind of like a, like a backwoods girl who all of a sudden was like the most famous in the world i mean her family i think are like kind of predators i don't think she has like a good uh team around her and so uh they went to like a court when i think i think it was probably like fanfare like i think people saw britney shave her head and was like this girl's crazy and her father was like i need to be in control of her and some judge gave her control and if you look at we you know we we did this very famously on our show we looked at the lyrics to lucky and it's like yeah yeah she was crying and she was upset if you she did the
Starting point is 00:36:53 remake of my prerogative if you listen to those words it's like i don't have to like run my decisions by you i can live my own life um so here's where it gets interesting though the free britney movement's been going on like her fans have known about this forever. Recently, she puts up a video, and she's doing the weird, you know, she always looks weird on her videos. She looks like a psycho person. Yeah, I mean, a lot of people, her fans are like, she's on medication that, like, is fucking with her.
Starting point is 00:37:17 Yeah. And so she. She looks like a person who should be under a conservative shirt, if we're being honest here. Well, let me, let's. She has the eyes of a person who's like, boy, maybe someone should be watching after you. Watching after.
Starting point is 00:37:28 Sure. Britney Spears cannot leave the house without permission. She can't spend her own money. She can't get her own lawyer. She can't. I mean, they said that it is equal to the same rights as a 10 year old. again,
Starting point is 00:37:40 guess what? This is, we're speaking of a woman who was not that recently, but in the last decade sued for farting on a guy too much. So. So, again, maybe she should have the rights of a 10 year old. I would say this. There's every chance.
Starting point is 00:37:58 Imagine like you fart on me so many times. I have to sue you for it. What was that? What was her bodyguard? Her bodyguard said she just kept farting on her. She's like, like, listen, you bodyguard said she just kept farting on her. Listen, you can't lose your freedom from farting. Freedom to fart. I'll take a knee. I'll go
Starting point is 00:38:12 Kaepernick on this one. From sea to shining sea, we can fart, man. Here's what I think. I think you could free Britney Spears, and there's every chance that tomorrow she blows all $200 million and burns down the rest of her house along with her gym. I think that's entirely possible.
Starting point is 00:38:28 I also think she should be allowed to do that. I think that unless Amanda Bynes, she's a free woman, Lindsay Lohan, her parents will make her decision. Have they been sued for flicking boogers at people too much? She's crying out for help! Again, Britney Spears has been. She's crying for help, man.
Starting point is 00:38:45 Dude, I agree. She should be able to let her burn. Like, let it go. And if she kills herself, okay. I think that she should be able to be crazy. That's freedom. That's America. Dude, she made...
Starting point is 00:39:03 Here's my real problem. If you want to say she's crazy i'm with you british is a crazy batshit nut yeah to the point that she needs to be like basically institutionalized in her own home that's where i disagree because in the same time period she put out an album she went she had a multi-year residency in vegas and she went on a world tour you can't go on a world tour if you can't make decisions for yourself yeah also but it also sounds kind of sounds like she is you're going on world tours they're not fucking dragging like your princess leia she doesn't she doesn't all the money doesn't go to her she doesn't make any
Starting point is 00:39:32 money she goes on a world tour you know how hard it is to go on a world tour it made 131 million dollars it was regarded as like a top 10 world tour of all time and she doesn't get any money how does she how does she not get money it goes to her father it all goes to her father and then there was a story. She was on the fucking world tour in the middle of making $130 million. She went to the front desk. She said, like a diva, she was like, my room is barren and plain. Can you get some flowers?
Starting point is 00:39:57 I want flowers in my room. And they said, no, it's not within your budget. Your father won't allow it. That's fucking insane. That's enough to drive someone insane. If I was making $131 million and I had a little tiny allowance, I would go nuts. You know what I would probably do?
Starting point is 00:40:10 I'd probably burn down a gym. I would go insane. So she makes this video and in the comments it says, if you are in danger, if you need our help, wear a yellow shirt in your next video. Next video, yellow shirt.
Starting point is 00:40:24 And the original caption just said like, oh, I got my new video next video yellow shirt and the original caption just said like oh i got my new flowers she went back and changed the caption and said in my favorite new yellow shirt like she called it out awkwardly tell me that's not a fucking sign for help this is the guy this is the video who he looks like i don't know if you want him endorsing you but they're all these tiktoks it's actually very funny. In the gay Twitter and gay TikTok world, they're all just doing videos dancing to Britney Spears with factoids popping up on the screen about her conservatorship. But they're all just glamorous fucking dancing
Starting point is 00:40:56 trying to call attention to this Britney Spears woman. What is he doing right now? Yeah, that's the thing. I mean, she just walks back and forth. She just goes left, right, left, right. And everyone starts making fun of her. And then people are like, stop making fun of this girl. She's fucked. She's trapped. She's the thing. I mean, she just walks back and forth. She just goes left, right, left, right. And everyone starts making fun of her. And then people are like, stop making fun of this girl. She's fucked.
Starting point is 00:41:07 She's trapped. She's medicated. And then they said that she's been on, she's being forced to take like medication that has, that like is letting her be under this belt. And that, I think there's documents of her. She has tried to put an end to this. And like they won't let her. Which is funny. I mean, not funny, but imagine if it was just like,
Starting point is 00:41:26 no, yeah, you're crazy. You're fucking nuts. We've all reviewed the evidence. Right. Things stay how they are. Play this one. How many likes are on the... If you need help, wear a yellow shirt in your next video. It has like 300 likes, so it was probably towards the top. I know she probably gets millions of comments,
Starting point is 00:41:42 but it was noticed by people that this comment said, wear a yellow shirt, and then the next video, she wore a yellow shirt and said, look at me wearing my favorite yellow shirt. I mean, it's a cry for help, John. I'm going to free Britney, and it might be a cold take. She might just come and
Starting point is 00:41:58 kill me. She might whack us all, but I think she should be free to be a mass murderer if she wants to. I agree. There's something afoot here. Right. And I just, I don't know if I've seen the evidence that she should be freed yet. The yellow shirt! I mean, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:42:15 I'm saying, like, she, like, just her eyes are just like, what's the deal? Like, yes, she has crazy eyes. You don't get to trap someone in their own home because you have crazy eyes. I mean, if the doctors have said, yeah, this is the way we should handle this. I don't know. I mean, you can't make them go on world tours. That's what I mean. Like, there's anybody who can who is competent enough to pull that shit off.
Starting point is 00:42:35 There are so many crazy celebrities, John. They join cults. They fucking there are celebrities who have killed people. And we don't do anything about that. But Britney Spears is a little bit wacky, so she can't leave her house. What are we doing? It about that. But Britney Spears is a little bit wacky, so she can't leave her house. And then what are we doing? It's crazy! Free Britney! Alright. And you know what else? We dropped the ball as a society because we sexualized the fuck
Starting point is 00:42:54 out of a 15-year-old girl. So we owe it to Free Britney. I'm not going to we on that one. I was too young. We were within our bounds, but I mean she gave us Hit Me Baby One More Time. She gave us Oops I Did It Again in the red fucking patent leather outfit. She gave us Toxic. She gave us The Snake at the MTV Awards.
Starting point is 00:43:10 We can free Britney. All right, fucking free Britney. August 1st is my deadline. I'm getting a free Britney in a month. Because the world's been very just and fair recently, so I expect things to go very quickly. Free Britney. Wouldn't that drive you fucking crazy, though, if Britney Spears gets like, I mean, it's been a long time. So she does deserve swift justice.
Starting point is 00:43:28 But out of everything going on, if it's like, all right, let's focus on Britney Spears. She's got $215 million. She can't spend it on her. Fuck you, Jamie Spears, you sick son of a bitch. Fucking assholes feeding this poor girl. God. I mean, it really is crazy. Like, you can't be
Starting point is 00:43:46 that famous you can't the human mind is not like capable of being that famous everybody michael jackson justin bieber bieber's actually handling it pretty well all things considered i think but even he like kind of took like he doesn't he's not out there as much anymore but bieber i guess he put out an album this year but yeah bieber like just doesn't work anymore right which i think is a very calculated like i can't because i'm not capable of panelists your mental health bro can't can't get famous getting famous money is the devil getting famous terrible britney free fucking britney uh let's get into a little sports news uh it's brought to you by indochino having clothes fit right can be a huge confidence booster uh I mean, that's a lesson I learned later in life that I feel like I wish I learned earlier, that, like, the clothes do make the man.
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Starting point is 00:46:21 I don't know what to think about that. Some people like Super Bowl on. Other people like he's not even going to make the week one team. I think he'll make the week one team. I don't think he'll be the starter. And it has nothing to do with Cam. I know, not from personal discussion, but from reading how much the Patriots really like Jared Stidham.
Starting point is 00:46:40 Now, there's a chance that Cam Newton goes in there, lights the world on fire, and then it's just like, can't. Yeah, you got to have't. A former MVP. Your time's coming, Stidham. I think that's the main reason why he will get a shot. It's like, Stidham, this just fell out of nowhere. Garoppolo was like, I need my time. It's time for me.
Starting point is 00:46:56 I don't think Stidham's going to have any fucking demands or anything yet. Right. If a former MVP pops in. Stidham played pretty well. I think he played really well in the preseason. So you've got a really good preseason. You can't.
Starting point is 00:47:05 That's not enough to make him a man. No, no, no. You don't get former MVPs in here. Right. This is my time now. But, I mean, a former MVP with a chip on his shoulder. I mean, he said, like, he's like, I'm going to be a motherfucking beast this year. And there's a chance that happens.
Starting point is 00:47:19 There is a chance. There's a good chance. I believe Cam Newton. I think it's tough when you say you say that though if you don't have much in the tank which i don't know whether he does or not to be honest i didn't like look at his numbers or really watch them play in recent years but you like say that and you mean that and then you go out there week one and get your ass kicked and you're like all right never mind it can turn on a dime real quick in football you're like i mean he's not like i don't even
Starting point is 00:47:41 think he's like really in the something to prove stage. I guess literally he is because of the contract he took. But I don't think he's been bad for a long time. I don't think it's been – he's not that old. I mean it feels not the same as Kaepernick. He's 31 years old. Yeah, it's not like he's – He's 31 years old. Yeah, he's younger than me.
Starting point is 00:48:03 Did he have like a real bad couple years? I think he had a bad shoulder surgery. Yeah, that's younger than me. Did he have like a real bad couple years? I think he had a bad shoulder surgery. Yeah, that's the other thing. If he's hurt, like I can understand the Panthers wanting to move on. What I can't understand is the rest of the league not signing him. When people were trading for Nick Foles and giving up good picks and like there's other guys out there and you don't take a flyer on Cam Newton, that's pretty crazy.
Starting point is 00:48:22 Yeah, that doesn't make any sense to me. I'm trying to look up like his completion percentages. Now unless there's a Kaep on Cam Newton, that's pretty crazy. Yeah, that doesn't make any sense to me. I'm trying to look up his completion percentages. I mean, in 2018. Now, unless there's a Kaepernick effect where it's like, he's going to wear loud clothes, and he's going to be a distraction and all that shit. I mean, he wears loud clothes. I don't think Cam Newton's ever been a distraction.
Starting point is 00:48:40 I don't think Cam Newton's ever been thought of, at least by people who know him. He has the stigma because he's a black quarterback. Crazy hair, crazy outfits, who fucking cares? In the community, he's incredibly well respected. I always feel that way with Cespedes. Everyone's always like, Cespedes is a cancer,
Starting point is 00:48:55 and every one of his teammates on every team has always been like, that dude's awesome. I honestly don't even think people say that Ken Newton's a cancer. No, no, no, but I'm just saying with Cespedes, that's always a moniker that floats around. But I mean, in 2018, he threw for almost 4,000 I'm sorry, 3,500 yards, 24
Starting point is 00:49:12 touchdowns. Yeah, I mean, that's not 13 picks. Kind of a lot. But again, enough to get a look somewhere. I mean, with how many shitty quarterbacks are floating around, you're not going to take a chance on a guy. It does seem weird. I mean, the real thing here, the Pats are not that great of a team, period.
Starting point is 00:49:30 No, no, no, yes, they are. Their defense is all the way back. Are they? Their defense was one of the best in league history last year. Again, they were playing a pretty shaky schedule. Are all the other pieces in place? Yeah. Really?
Starting point is 00:49:46 And did that change from last year? Because last year, I feel like they got kind of exposed at points. Last year, I don't know what's actually happening with the wide receivers. So I guess the wide receivers you'd have to see. But running backs are all there. Defense is there. But I mean, offensively, you can't say anything's all there until you see it because you don't know what the Brady effect is going to be.
Starting point is 00:50:08 You know what I mean? I guess you could make the argument the weapons are still missing. Right. I mean, like, Edelman's probably your number one receiver still, I think. I fucking forget, man. I haven't even thought about this football. Because guess what? This year's not going to happen.
Starting point is 00:50:21 I know. It doesn't fucking matter. I mean. But, speaking of this year not happening, Harvard canceling school and keeping this. If you go to that. That's insane. If you agree to go to that,
Starting point is 00:50:33 Harvard should kick you out for being too dumb. Yeah, you're stupid. You're a sucker. Like $50,000 just for the fucking academics, not room and board and all that shit. Just 50 grand for online classes. It's insane. Which I guarantee you can just like YouTube.
Starting point is 00:50:46 If you're going to sit on the computer and just learn things, you can just do it on YouTube for $0, let alone 50. I think that's going to be big for like the college bubble, if you will. But I agree. But I also think that people don't go to, I mean, they go to Harvard to get like a good education. They go to Harvard to go to Harvard. And if you want to get a four-year degree from Harvard,
Starting point is 00:51:02 this year it's going to be on the computer. And it's like. It's probably an easier time to do it. Yeah, right? If anything, I'd be like, yeah, I can pay $50,000 a year and get this degree and have it be hard. Or I can get a degree and have it be not hard. Yeah. But then guess what?
Starting point is 00:51:15 When you take online classes, you don't get to dress up in fits like Cam Newton does. You can't flex on campus. Dude, I mean, like that. I'm showing up in that outfit. It was like the man romper, right? It was almost like a one-piece. No, it was tied around his neck. So I think it was a shirt and shorts.
Starting point is 00:51:30 It might have been overalls, but I think it was just a shirt that was tied around his neck. Like, you lost Brady, and it was like, oh, man, like, post-game fits are always such a cool thing. It's like, well, that's one place where Cam Newton fully will replace him, Brady. You're not going to miss a beat. You're actually going to get better. I don't know about his play. Yeah, look at that. He always had, remember when he had that Riddler outfit?
Starting point is 00:51:49 This gave me Riddler vibes with that hat. Someone said that he had the, look at that. Look at those legs, too. Yeah, he's fucking cute. His hair is nuts. How did he get a fucking helmet on over that? I don't know. That's a good question.
Starting point is 00:52:00 Or does he? Did he have that during the play? I think he's had it long for a while now. But someone, I forget, when he first signed someone was like y'all haven't even seen cam yeah get the dress up and wear coats all year how fucking like instantaneous did felgar and maz live up to their reputation day one not gonna be not gonna be any celebrating not gonna be any fucking superman not gonna do it he's not gonna do it well i think bill's gonna allow i was like oh my god it was guys to allow it. I was like, oh my God,
Starting point is 00:52:25 you fucking guys. It was stupid. Very stupid video. Just because Tom Brady's like, let's go. It's famous. Gronk spikes. Ridley has a celebration.
Starting point is 00:52:39 Again, nothing's elaborate. The Patriots actually, they're right in that aspect that they don't let you inspire with each other since like 2017 when they like lifted the ban
Starting point is 00:52:48 I can't think of like a team right celebration right but you're allowed to be to celebrate that video in viral
Starting point is 00:52:54 and by the way I mean the Superman thing is like the the best sell like it's so tame it's very easy and like you know you're not
Starting point is 00:53:00 you're not like T.O. or fucking Ocho Singo or craziness like let him do that that I loved that video that went viral after it of Belichick and yeah I never watched And, like, you know, he's not like T.O. or fucking Ocho Singo or craziness. Like, let him do that. I loved that video that went viral after it of Belichick. Yeah, I never watched it.
Starting point is 00:53:12 I saw people, like, being like, is Belichick encouraging people? He's like, think about everything that goes into having a successful play. Think about how hard you worked all week. Think about how many people had to execute on that play for success. You should be happy. And then he actually goes through breaking down videos of them not celebrating. And he's like, look at this. Look at great tackle there, Ty Warren. No one even spats him on the
Starting point is 00:53:32 ass. No one even says anything to him. He's like, and guess what? We go back to the huddle like nothing big happened. Something important just happened. That was just a seven-yard tackle for loss. And then he starts showing good ones where the whole team's going nuts with each other. And he's like, it's so clear when we want to play and when we're fucking happy to be out there versus when we're not. And it's like, I forget what he says.
Starting point is 00:53:52 He's just like, look at this one against Denver. Think we're fired up to be out there at night, boys? Everyone's just like headbutting each other. See, that's what people like during all the Barstool drama. Dave's like leadership methods are always like Belichickian in his mind. And it's like, you don't see that Belichick does that. He says that? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:12 You haven't heard Dave compare us to the Patriots before? I have. It's like Belichick doesn't give you words of encouragement. It's like he does, though. He does. There are times you don't see it. You don't see it in a press conference. You don't see it during the game.
Starting point is 00:54:27 But I'm sure there are times where you get your ass chewed out but then also he's like giving you some love and that's what never happens around here yeah i think that's a little bit of a crazy connection that might be a reach i don't know does bill have a picture on his wall of a star being filled up get out what you put in the funniest thing you know what it sums up you know it sums up that that so there's a dave got a big fucking picture of a star behind him in his office where a guy is pouring like the star dust into the star and filling it up and he said he bought it to show to people that you get out what you put in and my first reaction when he got it i was like oh you're just you're just getting a picture for yourself saying how big of a star you are like that was
Starting point is 00:55:08 my gut reaction i think there was a reason why i didn't see the metaphor right away i think there's a reason why dude i think i saw the metaphor right away and i was like yeah i get it yeah it's not it's an apply um no i mean i i even think it applies i just think like i just think dave dave just loves that band. He cracks me up. Loves it. Loves it. His friend made it for him, too, right?
Starting point is 00:55:29 Yeah. So, but wait. I forgot it's his friend. Do you think how many games does Cam Newton start? Start? I honestly think he starts zero. I think he will play in all of them. I think it's either going to be like
Starting point is 00:55:45 I think that he's going to play a lot or it's going to be I don't know how healthy he is. I don't know what he is, but I know the Patriots really, really like Jarrett Stitt. I know they were trying to tell that to every team all offseason, every time a free agent came, like, oh, Patriots are going to go after him. No, we're not.
Starting point is 00:56:01 We'll go after, I forget what contract Andy Dalton got, but yeah, if you don't give Cam Newton $700,000 guaranteed, whatever it is, then that's foolish. You'd be like, all right, fuck you. The deal's good, let's give it a try. But otherwise, it seems like all offseason they're like, no, we got a guy. We have a quarterback.
Starting point is 00:56:20 Everyone keeps telling us we need one, but we don't. I wonder if that's posturing, if they really believe it, but I don't i wonder if that's posturing if they really believe it but i don't know i i feel like i feel like jason statham's gonna stink i mean the fans were funny the fans who have been like stidham's awesome who were like cam newton here super bowl it's like well you so you never really believed in cam and jason statham at all right you know and i don't know that i do i just know that they do right and that's all that matters but the fans are funny like he, he's fucking awesome, dude. Never mind.
Starting point is 00:56:46 We got a replacement. We're set. Was there another sports thing we wanted to do? Yeah. Cam Newton also. It will be fun with the Cam Newton stuff to get to fight with people with stupid takes like that. Where it's like, he's the only person who celebrates. No, he's not.
Starting point is 00:57:00 Because there is a person I've missed that with. Getting people who have like, they're already preconceived notions about a guy and they're just going to argue and hate everything he ever does, was David Price. What? When I tell you that I wish David Price was still in Boston to not play this year. Out, out.
Starting point is 00:57:21 God damn, that would have fucking set the world on Twitter.com. I don't even like, I don't argue anymore. I argue about two things. Tuka Rask and David Price. Guess what? Fucking David Price opted
Starting point is 00:57:39 out of the 2020 season, which is the correct move, by the way, and didn't play just to piss everyone off. Oh, I would have loved it. I would have loved to have David Price's back on this while Boston lost its fucking mind. I mean, that would be the Joker gif, and here we go.
Starting point is 00:57:58 Like, to a fucking T. What a move by him. Like, he covered all his bases. He paid $1,000 to each minor league player. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which, by the way, was a lot. I mean, it was like 200 grand. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:09 It wasn't like a 25-man roster. There's a lot of fucking guys. Yeah. Like, did what he needed to do for his new organization, but also was like, I ain't risking it. Guess what, dude? That should be a precursor. Hopefully he talks to his boy Mookie.
Starting point is 00:58:22 Mookie Beth, if you play this year, you're a lunatic. You're a nutjob. You have $400 million potentially coming up. This is going to get remembered as a fake season. So there's no point in getting hurt. There's no point in getting sick, maybe.
Starting point is 00:58:39 There are some people who get COVID and it destroys... Ron Miller's like, my lungs ain't right. Did you see that the guy who's the bodybuilder? No. He's, I forget where he's from, but he's a bodybuilder who got COVID. And like, I mean, he got it bad. Right.
Starting point is 00:58:59 Is this the gay guy? No, but that was one too. Yeah, that guy was jacked and he lost like 100 pounds and like almost died there's that dude no that was the one I was thinking of this guy I can't think of his fucking name that 41 year old the broadway guy
Starting point is 00:59:16 he was Tony nominated he just straight up died he was healthy I can't find the picture of the guy he wasn't a bodybuilder I forget what he was but he was was a triathlon runner. He did those Spartan races and stuff like that. He's just this huge
Starting point is 00:59:32 beast of a man. Then they put him in a coma. 25 days later he came out. He looks just completely different. What if that happens to you, Mookie Bruce? What? I know people will probably say think of Kawhi Leonard. Kawhard was like the villain of all villains for not yeah that holy shit he went from like fucking aquaman to just like i'll be honest i would
Starting point is 00:59:55 take his afterbite i would say this man ravaged by coronavirus i'm like that guy's sexy that's what i look like now i've been working out for a fucking two months uh but like kawaii leonard was totally vilified and nobody thinks about that anymore he went and won a title and now he's a sports hero again oh right you can have like you know there will be people being like you should have played for like a few months and then it goes away it's all pr and i think even with the kawaii stuff i think that changes now i think that's different because that was a real season, at least. But that was also just Kawhi's personal choice. Like, I don't want to fuck with you right now.
Starting point is 01:00:30 I gotta get my money. This is like, I have a reason to. It's not just David Price made this up and Mookie Betts is gonna make it up. There's a full-ass reason. The only thing I would say, I would maybe wait until they cancel the season. And then you don't have to do this at all. Day one, none of these teams got testing.
Starting point is 01:00:46 I know it was the holiday weekend, but still, it's just like the plan's already not working, and nobody's even gotten it yet. When people start to get it, and then they cancel, and then you don't have to have even gone through the drama. But what I like, I think I'm very, I want to be David Price. Like, he is so above the criticism
Starting point is 01:01:06 now I think he doesn't even it doesn't even phase it's like I love he had a point where you're just like I don't give a after he won the World Series he's like I was I hold all the cards now yeah which I don't know I mean I guess he did technically but in that moment traded yeah I don't think he's
Starting point is 01:01:22 like has this bulletproof proof perfect career but in that moment it was like fuck get traded. Yeah, yeah. I don't think he's, like, has this bulletproof perfect career. But in that moment, it was like, fuck off. Mark, yeah. And that's all it takes. You get that one time. He's just the best, man. I think he does things sometimes that are just, like.
Starting point is 01:01:35 It's just fuck you. Kind of dickish. Yeah. And I'm like, it's just so fucking awesome, man. It's like taking a little. I don't think this is one of them. I don't think this is one of them. It's a little, like, peaceful protest.
Starting point is 01:01:43 Where it's just like, I'm going to piss you off because I can. Yeah. Because you could piss me off. Because he still has the biggest contract in history, right? For pitching? Pitching, yeah. Maybe. I think Strasburg came close, but I don't think he beat him.
Starting point is 01:01:59 I think Strasburg ended up taking less than people thought. But yeah, if not one, it's two. Right. One of the wealthiest pitchers in history. I'm going to do whatever the fuck I want. Because guess what? That's what you should do. Absolutely. What's the point of...
Starting point is 01:02:13 It's like Belichick said, busting your ass and getting there to not do what you want in life? Fuck off. That's why, though, I think there's nobody in the world set up better than Patrick Mahomes right now. I mean, he's... Do we have any idea what it's going to be?
Starting point is 01:02:31 I mean, I haven't seen anything. Oh, Gary Cole just got his money. Oh, right, right, right. Gary Cole is at $321 or something. It doesn't matter what it is. I mean, if he takes a crazy discount, but I'm thinking more of like why would you if you were him why would you want to sign up for 10 years it's gonna be
Starting point is 01:02:49 an opt-out it's gonna be like you know two-year deal for sure for sure you know but like i just see i think that's smart because i think chiefs fans are like coming now they're like this is a lifetime deal this guy's ours for life and he's like i don't have a down two years yeah so you get the good pr you probably get a shit ton of guaranteed money that way. You have won an MVP and won a title and you're young as fuck. You know, he's like, what's that?
Starting point is 01:03:13 Throw it a guess. Is the number out? I CBS sports is reporting it. Yeah. I mean, it's gotta be there. 12 years. Whoa.
Starting point is 01:03:22 Well, it's the tenure extension. Yeah. So, I mean, uh, all these guys were making an annual of like, Oh, 12 years. It's the 10 year extension. So I mean all these guys were making an annual of like almost like 40 right? I mean if Dak Prescott was looking for 40, 45 or something. Is it a $400 million deal?
Starting point is 01:03:37 It can't be. He's number one. In sports history. 477 does that say? Fine, fine. But he hit the forehand. Yeah, he beat Trout. Woo! That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:03:51 I mean, that's the greatest flex in sports history. To get that deal at the age of, I think, 24? What is even the next football player on that list? Football players don't make money. Bro, he's played 31 games. Does it have a guarantee?'s 24 yeah 24 years old 31 games a 427 million dollar contract through to 2031 he's getting that bobby bonilla, except instead of a million a year, it's fucking. So he'll go from a $2.8 million bonus to a $24 million salary. And his 10 year extension is worth over 400 million. But,
Starting point is 01:04:35 but we'll be more. So the low, the lowest number, his 12 year deal can be is four 27 and it will be higher than that. Jesus Christ. I didn't expect that. Football players don't make money. I figured if you're going to sign that many years,
Starting point is 01:04:55 and we're going to potentially guarantee you 10 years of guaranteed cash, that'll be like $30,000 a year. And you'll be in that $300 million range. That would have been crazy. $427,000. And you know what? I don't know enough. Football is so important, the cap, you know?
Starting point is 01:05:08 But like, probably worth it, you know? Like, I don't know. That might cripple your team, but as like a individual player, if other guys are making their money similar, if Dak's asking for $40 million, then he... I don't even... What's the second longest contract in football history?
Starting point is 01:05:22 Has anyone... I don't think... I don't remember any double-digit deals. I mean, it's a lifetime deal in football. If you sign somewhere for 10 years, especially if you already played a couple, it's a lifetime deal. The, like, I don't even know what Brady's longest deal was. I would guess fucking, he played week to week. The, I really, I don't even know.
Starting point is 01:05:41 You know what I would love to do? I need, like, Adam Schefter or that fucking weasel, Darren Rebell to do it. If Brady had done something like this, if you could calculate Brady's... We know his success played out like it did. And you can go back and sign that extension. What would it be worth? It has to be worth five, right?
Starting point is 01:05:57 If you're going to get seven Super Bowls out of it. Yeah. It's got to be like a billion. That's fucking bananas. I can't think of anybody more on top of the world than that guy. Because he can stop right now. He's done. He's set a few records.
Starting point is 01:06:12 He's not going to set all the records. But he's in the record books already. MVP. Someone was saying that earlier where they were like, he is in the Hall of Famer. Already. In 31 games. How are you a Hall of Famer in 30 games? I mean, he has all of the records through 30 games he has.
Starting point is 01:06:27 So you can always say he was the number one this and the number one that. He won an MVP, won a title. There are plenty, you know. We're looking at like one through 28 of the top paid athletes of all time. He's not on there yet. But there's no football. Yeah, there's no football. I know. And it's got to be, I would imagine, majorly baseball.
Starting point is 01:06:42 Look, Chris Middleton's on this list. We haven't had a football player yet. When does football hit? Khalil Mack, 72. Holy fuck. And it's like the worst, hardest, most dangerous job. No, there's a couple more. Matt Ryan, fuck off.
Starting point is 01:06:58 Is it Matt Ryan? It's got to be a quarterback, right? Yeah. So Matt Ryan checks in at 60. Before, you know, after, like, look at LeBron. LeBron being, was that 50 something? 55. That's a crime.
Starting point is 01:07:12 That's a crime. But that's just his Laker deal. Oh, okay. So it's just a four-year deal. Got it, got it, got it. Okay. But I mean, Jesus Christ. God.
Starting point is 01:07:23 Mike Vick on there. Shout out, Vick. Vick signed $200 million contracts, didn't he? Yeah, I mean, he's got... That's crazy on either side of a prison stint. That's a flex. Signed a $100 million deal with the Atlanta Falcons. Came out, $100 million deal with the fucking Eagles.
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Starting point is 01:11:34 being stuck in quarantine and then finally getting a haircut so check out KFC radio on YouTube for the full play show and experience let's get into our top fives top five today is in honor of Hamilton Hamilton was out on Disney plus for Let's get into our top fives. Top five today is in honor of Hamilton. Hamilton was out on Disney Plus for Fourth of July weekend, which is, I didn't, I mean,
Starting point is 01:11:52 so now they're going to go back to doing their big, like, you know, Hollywood premiere. Was it just like a little taste? Oh, yeah, I guess so. I forgot that it was going to be in movies, in theaters. Yeah, I haven't heard anything about it, but. So I got a chance to watch it. So we're going gonna do top five uh each top five songs from the show um i thought it was good i liked it it's long and i don't know why i didn't expect it to be long it's a fucking broadway show like
Starting point is 01:12:15 it's not it's not a movie it's just 240 it's not crazy long but 240 i mean but yeah it's but you know there's you know intermission in broadway and there's like you're going to a night experience not just watching a movie. So it took me three settings to watch it. I had to deal with the kids, I had to go out, and I got through it in three. I like it. I thought it was great. I definitely think that the – it's weird to be like – I think it lived up to the hype in its quality,
Starting point is 01:12:42 but I can't help but feel that like some of the hype is the fact that it's like uh like the hip-hop community and like like it's something that broadway's not used to at all and i feel like i'm sure they like it felt like to me the whole thing uh but also i believe there's rap on broadway but it's never yeah so i mean this is this is the best of that and that's why it rose to this level but the whole thing to me felt like when you see a video on like social media something of like this is the cool teacher who taught us a lesson through rap yeah you know what i mean it's like and everyone's like wow this is so amazing because it's like we've never seen it before and i'm like is it
Starting point is 01:13:17 you know does the broadway crew you know the people who love broadway are they really that impressed with is the singing that much better and all that? Or is it that it's like, you know, the urban crowd and the hip-hop crowd? See, I actually really expected most of the takes to be like, that's what you guys fucking liked. That's what the big deal is about the whole time. And I think that's been very little of the case, if at all. I know Roan hates it. I know Roan hates it.
Starting point is 01:13:41 Roan refuses to watch it because he believes that it's all pandering. But I don't think you can, you have to watch it first if it was dog shit i would be like i'm on board 100% with you right that's like why is this getting all the love i'm on board with him like 50% in the sense that i can see this like a stuffy affluent white crowd being like look at the hip hop you know what i mean this is amazing we almost have to say this is amazing because it's so different but i think like you said there's probably there's been other like hip-hoperas as they call them and this one rose to like unbelievable prominence because it is you know that good i think seeing it live like i needed the subtitles i needed like they they're rapid
Starting point is 01:14:15 fire rapping like i needed to read every word to really follow the story it's i i was completely completely overwhelmed for the first 20 minutes of it. I saw it live. Yeah. I was just like sweating. Unless you know the story and you're like, oh, I know everything. I didn't know anything about Alexander Hamilton, so I'm trying to learn. It's a hard watch.
Starting point is 01:14:38 You can't be on your phone at all. Like I said, I need to read every lyric. If I miss something, I had to rewind it. Otherwise, you lose the whole there's no wasted scenes it's all telling the story and there's really no breaks at all so like you gotta pay attention
Starting point is 01:14:53 I don't know if I hadn't felt that way that I felt in the first 20 minutes of Hamilton is the only time I can remember feeling that way at all was actually this past weekend I was looking at houses and I went in to like buy a house and the lady was like in the first 20 minutes just started rattling off things i don't know these words at all i am so in over my head yeah fuck this yeah never mind right do
Starting point is 01:15:16 something else i gotta learn a lot more before you even try to do this that's like i wanted to go to the bathroom just read the wikipedia right oh it's got to be something that's like you know, if you read up on it and watch it again, you probably have so much more of an appreciation for it. Whoa.
Starting point is 01:15:31 But also, I prefer to, when I see Broadway shows, I like to see it live first, which is crazy because a lot of people will listen to the, a lot of the albums
Starting point is 01:15:41 are already out. Yeah. So a lot of people will listen to the album before they go. Yeah, I think I'd be with you on that one that i kind of want to see it all live first and then i'll go back then it shapes which song you like and all that because it's like but if you like the song but then that part of the show you don't like and then it's all fucked up i'd be down it's
Starting point is 01:15:54 hard though to be like i'll see this twice because it's like you know not many people get to see it once at all that's what uh i think lin-manuel lin-manuel miranda said that more people saw it this weekend than i've the last five years combined. Undoubtedly. Which is obvious because I hadn't thought about it that way. Yeah, they get like 300 people a night. In New York City. You have to be here.
Starting point is 01:16:15 I mean, I'm sure there's still a fuck ton of tickets. But I was thinking about if you get a chance to interview him now, I feel like he's almost got to start over. He's got to answer the same questions he's answered probably to like start over like until like the, he's got to answer the same questions he's answered by a million times. You know, my question to him would be, why do you get all the credit? Well,
Starting point is 01:16:31 you mean he did everything. Him and the guy, I thought they co-wrote it. I'm 99% sure. I've read that. They co-wrote almost all of it. The guy who's he's the guy who's Hamilton. Now the guy who's,
Starting point is 01:16:40 he got to be Hamilton second. And that's when, when he got introduced on like the late show or whatever. And Colbert was like, he co-wrote the whole show. And now he gets to be Hamilton. I'm like, why the hell did he have to wait this long? I think he, didn't he write like, I think that maybe they wrote the story together. But like, he wrote the music.
Starting point is 01:17:00 He wrote the lyrics. He wrote the score. He wrote like the whole fucking thing, right? I think so i think like because he does have that like that viral famous yeah uh like facebook posted him like being like i'm starting writing this thing called hamilton or whatever so it had to be him on like some level he brought some people in but it is pretty you know what i'm you know what i'm impressed with that they haven't been canceled why i'm surprised there hasn't been the whole like why are we glorifying these men who
Starting point is 01:17:25 were like slave owners and shit and i think the answer is is because it's fucking fire i think that if you i think that if you put out like a good enough product people are like well you know we don't have to be upset about absolutely everything i think we can just talk about how fucking good this was um but i i definitely really like you know i i i mean you were definitely one i was worried about. Everybody always is everybody. And I, and I'm usually,
Starting point is 01:17:48 I tend to, when the bar is set so high, I set my own standards high. And then a lot of times I don't think it lives up to the hype. And this one, I think it did, but I can't say like, I don't know enough about bro. I can't,
Starting point is 01:18:01 I don't have much to compare this to. I've seen a couple of shows. I've never really seen any of the other ones that have really broken through like this so like i'm interested in american history i thought they did a cool job of telling it like quickly and through and i like rap and a lot of a lot of it you have to know like some some some of like the way like some of the wordplay is like oh that's from a rap song yeah i mean like and if you know the rap songs it feels like oh like the ten crack commandments right right the ten dual commandments and like even just one liners here and there i'm like oh naz had a rhyme? And if you know the rap songs, it feels like, oh. Like the Ten Crack Commandments? Right. That's fucking sick. Right, the Ten Dual Commandments. And even just one-liners here and there, I'm like, oh, Nas had a rhyme like that.
Starting point is 01:18:29 And things that I do pick up on. I don't think I picked up on those things. No, probably not. But you don't need to. But it just added a little more to it for me. So I'm definitely in on it, while also thinking that part of Rowan's idea is probably correct in that I don't think it can be quite this level if it was like a white – if you told the same – I guess it's hard because part of it is the music is the music. But if you told this as a traditional Broadway show that's more like sing-songy, I don't know if it gets the same recognition. Well, definitely not.
Starting point is 01:19:02 But that makes it a different show. Right. Yeah. gets the same recognition. Well, definitely not. Of course not. But that makes it a different show. Right, yeah. But I'm saying, so the difference in the hip-hop version of it and the regular show tune version of it, I don't think equates for the difference in recognition. I think that part of the recognition is going to be a pandering crowd. I don't think anyone's pandering. I think it's just, like, this is good.
Starting point is 01:19:22 I don't think anyone goes to see Hamilton and is like, and of course some people do. I bet you there are people who are afraid to say they don't like Hamilton. Maybe, but also people do. You're in trouble if you don't like the show. Yeah, I just haven't. I mean, I haven't seen it. Rowan's the only guy I've ever seen say it.
Starting point is 01:19:40 But he's never even seen it. Yeah, I know. It's just crazy. He's gotta give it a shot. He was also... He doesn't like that people are like, you'd like it because you rap. And he's just like, don't tell me what I would like. He's being like me. Right. No, no, no. And I get it.
Starting point is 01:19:52 It all makes sense to me. But pandering I don't think is the word to use. I think people are experiencing something new. Yeah. So that might be – I don't think it's pandering. Well, okay. So that's my point. It's almost like when you go see Stomp and it's like, well, if you just did this with regular drums, would it be as good? No, it wouldn't because this is new. I don't see it's pandering. That's my point. It's almost like when you go see Stomp and it's like,
Starting point is 01:20:07 well, if you just did this with regular drums, would it be as good? No, it wouldn't. Because this is new. I don't see this a lot. But is it like a Ronda Rousey effect? If we see a lot more rap in Broadway, will we look back and be like, all right, Hamilton was good, but we never had anything to compare it to? Yeah, probably. So I think it's a trailblazer in that sense,
Starting point is 01:20:22 and I think it benefits from it a little bit. But I definitely enjoyed it and would recommend for sure. Like, Lin-Manuel, you can rest easy. You've got my seal of approval. Top ten songs. I'm going to go first. Top five songs. Top five songs.
Starting point is 01:20:39 I'm going to go like cliche here, i'm just gonna pick my shot because i also like at the end of the show there's a uh the roots have like just a regular version of that where they were where black thought raps and it's the same it's uh like the same beat and the same like chorus and everything and it's just like a rap song kind of i think i think there's an album that's sort of like um the uh greatest showman reimagined where it's like regular musical acts sing the songs. I think that's what this was. Okay. I think The Roots had something to do
Starting point is 01:21:10 with the production of it, though, right? Oh, yeah. Was Questlove involved? Yeah, yeah. So I like both versions of his version in the show and then Black Thought and The Roots version. So that's like a two-for-one for me. So I know it's kind of like the cliche one,
Starting point is 01:21:22 the song that's like throughout. The Hamilton mixtape, yeah. Which I do not think is as good as Hamiltonilton itself but and that's all like real like rappers yeah i think that's how it started too that was like how it originally was presented and then turned it into hamilton okay i gotta go i gotta go listen to that whole thing because i didn't know about that until the credits are rolling and i heard black thoughts so my shot number one all right i'm trying to decide here. I like the Skylar Sisters a lot. Oh, no. I think I'm gonna go
Starting point is 01:21:48 Helpless. Fuck! Yeah! That was like my only other one that I really knew. Fuck! That song's dope. This song's so good. It's so good. It's like, it's fucking real and raw. I think it's Ja Rule and Ashanti who do the on the mixtape version of it.
Starting point is 01:22:09 Yeah? Oh, fuck. I know Ja Rule does one of the Skylar Sister songs. I forget which one it is. That is awesome. Shit. That is – that was going to be my pick. That's got a great like melody to it.
Starting point is 01:22:22 Yeah? No, yeah. Yeah? Oh, shit. That's like the Broadway version of Mesmerize. But it's nowhere near as good. It's nowhere near as good. Yo, the Schuyler sisters, what a fucked up little situation that was.
Starting point is 01:22:36 Jesus Christ on the cross. Have you read the theory that he was actually in love with John Lawrence? Oh, yeah. Is it Lawrence? I'm not sure. Yeah, my sister used to talk about that all the time. Yeah, I read a Twitter thread after. That Hamilton was gay?
Starting point is 01:22:53 Yeah. Really? He was in love with John and that he, like his son. Who's John in the play? John Lawrence is in the second half. Oh, I'm John Lawrence in the place to be. Two plays standouts, but I'm working on three. He then comes back as his son.
Starting point is 01:23:07 It's the same actor. Oh, right, right, right. You know how they reuse people? So it's him, which I liked both of them. I liked that actor a lot, or singer, or whatever the fuck you call it. Anthony Ramos, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:17 But they said that Hamilton's sons cut words out of his letters to him that were like so like they were like the the sentence was like sexual and then like a word was cut out real and it was like it was all i can't remember off the top of my head because it's all like old englishy so it's like not easy to remember but a lot of like innuendo and a lot of like come see me i'll come see you like so and then i'm like well then what the fuck was all, why was he banging that chick? Why was he mad upset about the wife? Like,
Starting point is 01:23:47 you know, the whole, who knows, but, uh, like the plot thickens and I don't know, I'm not sure if I, if I'm reading into it,
Starting point is 01:23:54 like after the fact, but there's a moment where I think him and, and Lauren, Lauren's are like kind of embracing and like looking into each other's eyes. And I remember being like, that's a little weird, but it's Broadway, you know, it's everything's theatrical. And I remember being like, that's a little weird, but it's Broadway, you know,
Starting point is 01:24:05 it's everything's theatrical. And I was like, I wonder if they were like sneaking it in there. Cause they definitely don't address that. But if they wanted to like throw it in there for the people. Um, all right. My second pick then is the 10 dual commandments because of,
Starting point is 01:24:17 uh, the 10 crack commandments. I think that was a, it's, I mean, it's, it is an accomplishment to take a song like the 10 crack commitments which are the 10 rules to being a drug dealer and he put it on broadway and people just like loved it i mean that that's
Starting point is 01:24:33 taking that's not taking like hip-hop that's taking like raw fucking rap culture and bringing it to broadway and uh and i gotta tell you alexander hamilton don't go to that guy for dual advice i mean i don't know if we i don't know i don't know but like like i mean i mean it's just history i don't feel bad i'll spoil it yeah you're right so it is like i mean having your son die in that fashion is i mean i could have the whole time i was watching he's like raise your gun to the sky shoot it in the air if the other dude is a man of honor he'll do the watching, he's like, raise your gun to the sky, shoot it in the air. If the other dude is a man of honor, he'll do the same. Well, he's already engaging in a fucking gunfight with you. I don't know if he's a man of honor.
Starting point is 01:25:11 We're headed over in a boat to New Jersey to fucking duel. I love those moments, by the way, where we're like, everything's legal in New Jersey. I mean, tell your son, shoot to the sky, and then be like, whoops, my bad. And then when it comes time for you, you do it again. I guess, was granted it was more like he was i think he was doing it on purpose but like two oh for two over two in the worst fucking way you never even shot your shot dude it's like you know when you know when uh remember when buck showalter got criticized for the orioles lost in the playing game and he never used zach britain out of the pen he's like he left your best arm in the pen oh yeah if you lose in a duel and you never even shot at the guy, you're a fucking asshole.
Starting point is 01:25:47 Twice. Your family got ravaged by duels because of your advice. So 10 dual commandments. Make an 11th one. Don't listen to anyone who says to shoot your gun to the sky. The. All right. My number two.
Starting point is 01:26:04 One and two. Right. I'm going to go with, where is it? You'll be back. Yeah, you'll be back right there. I love. Which one? I love the king.
Starting point is 01:26:15 Yeah, he's awesome. You know who he is? No. It's Jonathan Goff, who is Mindhunter. Oh, shit. He's the star of Mindhunter. Yeah, he looks familiar now. That.
Starting point is 01:26:27 That's so great. I got no voice, so I'm not going to try singing today. He's a great little comedic relief, though. When he's like, George Washington is just giving up his power? I didn't know one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't know that. I didn't know it was allowed to happen.
Starting point is 01:26:44 John Adams oh he's fucking awesome and like I didn't realize that until watching Disney Plus like or no
Starting point is 01:26:52 you know what it was today I was reading an article just about how much he spits and yeah what's that about everyone's just like
Starting point is 01:26:59 yeah he's a wet actor wow that's just what he does I thought I was like is that like a like a knock on the king they do it on purpose i think it's part obviously when he's fucking uh holding ford he's not
Starting point is 01:27:10 spitting as much but right right you're on stage like yeah he's so caked in makeup yeah you're probably hot as shit wearing that the lights and everything oh um but yeah i didn't realize until i saw his name just like like we gotta talk about jon Jonathan Goff spitting. I was like, wait, that's the guy from, oh yeah, that makes sense. Unless that's like a thing of honor. They did him dirty. Like they could have done a different edit. There was the one, there's one like camera shot where it's like his mouth is overflowing. Like, geez, guys.
Starting point is 01:27:37 Give me a song. What's, I love Thomas Jefferson. I thought he was one of the best in the game. One of his songs. What did I miss? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Love that one. The whole show, he's, like, high-stepping.
Starting point is 01:27:54 He's got, like, a very deliberate, like, dance to him. And I love, like, his swagger about, like, Paris and France and, like, I'm the fucking man and I'm back. What I miss is awesome. Thomas Jefferson, I thought, was, like, he. He was great. I thought the fucking man and I'm back. What I miss is awesome. Thomas Jefferson, I thought was like... He was great. I thought he stole the show as a side character. Alright, I'll go with my number three is One Last Time.
Starting point is 01:28:16 One Last Time is a sick song which is also very cool when he's trying to explain to him how he's like, I'm quitting. We're done. We'll do this one more time and I'm out. And he's like, no, I'm quitting. We're done. Yeah, I'm out. We're going to do this one more time, and I'm out.
Starting point is 01:28:27 And he's like, what was it before? He's laughing at him. He's like, oh, no way he'll beat you in the election. He's like, no, no, I'm not even running. I'm out. I'm not running. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:35 That was... Who is it? I don't think it's Hamilton who's doing the singing. I think it's Lamar Odom Jr. No, he's not in that song, I don't think. Christopher Jackson? I honestly probably wouldn't know the names anyway,
Starting point is 01:28:51 but when he just does the... I'm not going to sing it. I'm going to get embarrassed by something here. Do it, John. Let him rap. He just does the... And one last time. I was like, oh, God, he's got a beautiful fucking voice. Yeah, I mean, everybody on this can sing and rap like a motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:29:09 I'm going to go. I don't know if I actually really like this song, but I thought it was super important and really told the story well to me, The Room Where It Happens. Yeah, that's a great one. That one number, when it's focusing on Aaron Burr, you get where he's just like, I want to be at the big boy table. And, like, I, you know, what happened? How'd this happen? He's like, the three guys walk into the room.
Starting point is 01:29:32 They agree to write 25, like, papers. They write 75. And Hamilton writes 50 of them. Like, how the fuck did this happen? And I think that, like, it's not a song I'll go back and listen to. But in the play itself, I remember being like, oh, I get it now. Aaron Burr's, like, I would go back and listen to but in the play itself I remember being like oh I get it now Aaron Burr is like jealous and doesn't know what to do
Starting point is 01:29:49 that's also what John Bolton named his new book and Lin-Manuel Miranda is not happy about that really? yeah I can imagine I think it's called The Room Where It Happened I think that's the name of the book um okay um
Starting point is 01:30:03 Guns and Ships I think that one where they're like fighting in Kip's Bay at the end of the book. Okay. Guns and Ships, I think. The one where they're like fighting in Kip's Bay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's the same guy that plays Jefferson. Daveed Diggs.
Starting point is 01:30:16 He comes out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's rapping with the French accent. It's fucking. Yeah. Wait. Is he?
Starting point is 01:30:21 Who's Lafayette? Is that? Yes. Yeah. Same guy. See, he was awesome as Lafayette, too, with, like, the accent and, like, he was so important with, like, the French helping on shit. Yeah, that was awesome.
Starting point is 01:30:33 Guns and Ships. Oh, yeah. Now, yes, yes, yes, yes. That number is fucking dope. Fuck, I should have picked that earlier. They have one song where it's, like, where they have, like, the beat is, like, the explosion is it. Yeah. That's fucking fire.
Starting point is 01:30:47 All right. Last pick for me here. Actually, what I'm noticing now looking at this is I like the first half of the show much, much more than the second half of the show. The actual fight for independence, I think, was better. I actually don't know if that's a common thing but I'm 1000% on you with that first half, you could just take the first half I think I'm gonna go
Starting point is 01:31:18 with Alexander Hamilton that's a good one I mean now there's so many there's still so many good ones you know what else i really like too uh the reynolds papers reynolds pamphlet yeah where it's just like he's like just fuck it i'm i'm doing it i'm writing it i can definitely identify you know what that's my choice the reynolds pamphlet is my choice when they're like he fucking wrote this he did what he admitted to this he copped to that and the guy's going through the highlights, and he's like, I did this, but I'm not fucking
Starting point is 01:31:47 doing anything illegal. Yeah, Reynolds Pamphlet. Fifth pick. All right, final pick. Dude, okay, so I have for my final pick, I would like to take, I think Blow Us All Away is so good. Yeah. That's the sun, right?
Starting point is 01:32:01 Yeah. That's Ramos. I think, yeah, I mean, you got to have him in there somewhere, right? Like it is, is, uh, like a solo bit from the sun is like, I love dear, dear Theodosia. So good. Um, Aaron Bursar is awesome. Uh, Aaron Bursar is such a little fucking weird. You punched the Burr's?
Starting point is 01:32:32 And also Satisfied, still on the table. I still have my Skylar sisters up there. I like the songs that get weaved throughout, too. And Satisfied is one of them. Yeah. You see it pop up multiple times. That's how you know that they were like, this one's a heater. We got to bring it back, you know? I'm going gonna blow us all the way blow us all yeah yeah that that's very like hip-hoppy and very like
Starting point is 01:32:50 like when that's where he's uh i don't know if it's part of the song or the dialogue right before but when he's like afterwards i'll come back and we can all strip down to our socks a little pimp uh all right so that's it lock it in top five hamilton songs for each of us let us know what you think. And if you haven't seen it, I mean, you're out of luck, right? There's no way to see it now until it comes back. But definitely co-sign. Go watch it.
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Starting point is 01:34:51 Wizards just have wands. Who would win if it was 1,000 versus 1,000? Let me know. I mean, I think that wizardry and magic and witchcraft can outperform any, like, artillery. I don't know about that. I guess I'm not well-versed enough in wizardry, but like, alright, you fire a nuclear warhead at me, and I just fucking hit you with that
Starting point is 01:35:12 Doctor Who, like, whatever, Doctor... What's his name in... Strange. Doctor Strange. And I open up a portal and the fucking warhead just goes to another world. See you later. Or I make a shell, and boom, I'm protected. Like, I don't think... I hear wizardry and I just think Harry Potter, and boom, I'm protected. Like, I don't think... I hear Wizardry, and I just think Harry Potter.
Starting point is 01:35:27 And I'm like, what? I think Harry Potter, we fucking run their show. Yeah, those guys are clowns. If we wanted to take Hogwarts, we could take Hogwarts in five minutes. Gandalf. I'm thinking the white wizard coming up over the fucking hill in the battle of... What's it called in Lord of the Rings? I know you know it, Nick.
Starting point is 01:35:42 The one. The one. The Leisure. Yeah, something like that. Fuck. I do know. No, Helm's Deep. the lord of the rings i know you know it nick the one the one uh the the the leash yeah something like that i do know helm's deep yes yeah i'm fucking deep he's coming i haven't even seen the movie motherfucker yeah that's what's that he's got that staff and he's the white wizard minister that's the third one but just like i boom i click a staff on the ground and like a whole a whole like shockwave knocks everybody out. All right.
Starting point is 01:36:06 So, yeah, I guess that's the – I haven't seen that one. Again, my mind goes Hogwarts. Those little bitches. Yo, I could take Hogwarts with like a 9mm. Yeah. I see him in Snape like fucking do these little fucking bullshit. They're dancing. It's like a Broadway show.
Starting point is 01:36:21 One little blue light at me. Fuck off. You could become invisible or whatever? Fuck you. I'll show you what an 8-day. Invisible in a cloak? You don't even get to become invisible. Right.
Starting point is 01:36:30 You have to make sure. You're behind a blanket. You ever try and hide behind a fucking curtain? Doesn't work. I see a foot. I'll see a foot. You're sneaking around me, Harry Potter. That's so true.
Starting point is 01:36:39 You have to be like completely underneath this blanket. Ain't happening. No. And eventually you're coming out, and when you do. I'm shooting you with my fucking gun. But I'm thinking more like. Black magic. Like Final Fantasy. Lord of the Rings.
Starting point is 01:36:51 You know. Warlock type shit. In that case. I will. I will recant. And I will go with. I'd like to have the magic. I think if it's.
Starting point is 01:37:02 But if I gotta use a fucking Nimbus. If I gotta fight a Nimbus. I'll fuck that. I'll fucking take the guns. Yeah. That's. That'ster harry potter didn't do any wizards any fucking favors if you were a wizard before harry potter you're like come on i swear i swear we're cooler than that i swear we're tougher than that now but if it's like a thousand humans versus like i don't know like 10 or like 50 wizards and maybe you know you have a heavy artillery and shit but you know if the wizards ever just decided to like fight theards and maybe you know you have a heavy artillery and shit but you know if the
Starting point is 01:37:26 wizards ever just decided to like fight the planet and we were like well you know independence day type shit like the whole human race is fighting together i don't know they'd probably be in trouble you can't like stop every fucking nuclear from hitting yeah like what do you do you just go under a fucking thing but then you can't fight you just yeah you just you could a fucking thing, but then you can't fight. You just get fucking... You could play great defense. I don't know. Unless... Hellfire just rained on you nonstop. Unless you can just, like,
Starting point is 01:37:49 kind of do the same thing, like, snap a finger and do it, you know, we have to mobilize and get a plane, fire this and that. If you can just, like, do it with your fingers in zero time. I mean,
Starting point is 01:37:58 Voldemort could do that shit. Voldemort... Yeah, technically he's a wizard. He's got that last one where he's, like, just kind got that last one where he's like just kind of standing outside Hogwarts doing like the fucking this thing in Virginia. He can turn into a gigantic snake.
Starting point is 01:38:12 If you can just take the form of whatever you want, you might be able to just fuck up. I mean, what? A snake versus the army? No, but if I was just like, I am now a human, magical mountain. So you're firing your gun into my mountain side. That doesn't even affect me because I'm a mountain.
Starting point is 01:38:29 Yeah. I just don't know the limits of wizardry. I'm going to take wizards. I'm going to take wizards. Again, just because of the fear of the unknown. Right. You know what I mean? I know what we got over here.
Starting point is 01:38:38 It works sometimes. I know it's got its problems. Right. I know it's got its faults. Right. I don't know what's over there. I'm going to go with that. I think it's wizards in like four. I think it's got its problems. I know it's got its faults. I don't know what's over there. I'm going to go with that spot. I think it's Wizards in like four.
Starting point is 01:38:47 I think it's a sweep. Really? If it's fair, 1,000 versus 1,000. 1,000 people? I feel like a Wizard kills 1,000 people in a snap. Oh, yeah. I missed that part. 1,000 magical people versus 1,000 non-magical people?
Starting point is 01:39:00 Oh, boy. Fuck out of here. Boy. It's got to be like 1,000 versus 10. I mean, even SEAL Team 6, I feel like, guys, we need numbers on this one. This is a sheer numbers game. This isn't fair at all. We going in against Bin Laden.
Starting point is 01:39:12 We were six against one. Yeah, and those were guys who were eight against one. I don't know how many. Hiding in a fucking cave. What about if you're going against guys that have magic? Yeah, that's, come on. Wizards in a landslide. What's up, Cass?
Starting point is 01:39:26 How do you drink so little water? We've been sitting here for like two and a half hours. You had like a half a bottle of water. You drink more. I've had three. I know. One of them is humongous. This is, I drink a little bit of water.
Starting point is 01:39:41 Like, I don't drink enough. But you, the problem here is not me. The problem is you. I should have finished this one. You should not be through three. I will tell you how many ounces of water I've had right now. 20? I've had like 12 to 14 ounces during this.
Starting point is 01:39:56 That's very normal. You're the weirdo. I'm around. That was 33. I'm up almost at 70. In just this? Yeah. Yeah, that's not normal.
Starting point is 01:40:07 How have you not peed? I did pee. We stopped. I went and peed. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean... 70 ounces of water in two hours.
Starting point is 01:40:15 That's fucking cake. That's light work. That is easy. That is not normal. I'll tell you, speaking of those wizards and shit, I'd love to see someone try and waterboard me one day. You wouldn't. If I just... I'd love to see someone try and waterboard me one day. You wouldn't. If I just go, nope, nope. I'd be like a fucking gerbil.
Starting point is 01:40:31 Feidelberg is un-waterboardable. Imagine that if the government was just like. You know those gerbils, the ones that go viral for sucking in the dick? I'd just be swallowing towels. What else you got, boys? Feidelberg is going to be used by the government. Tell this guy all our secrets. He'll never give them up.
Starting point is 01:40:48 You want to know where the aliens are? Not telling. Fucking suck a dick. I'm thirsty. Like a word, a word, please. I'm a little dehydrated. Give me some more. Get a bigger bucketrated give me some more get a bigger bucket you're gonna need a bigger bucket what is that in like the equalizer oh no save house the denzel washington movie when he's breaking down the like the they're getting ready to uh
Starting point is 01:41:19 to waterboard him and he's looking at the uh towels and he's like that counts not high enough that That's not going to work on me. You guys just brought in two buckets? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm going to do it. Next up. Ian Fuddleberg, first time, long time. I was inspired by your guys' top HBO picks, so I started to go back and watch some series.
Starting point is 01:41:43 I'm halfway through Curb Your Enthusiasm now, and I just need a tip on how to stop acting like Larry David, and if it ever is going to stop. Love what you guys do. Thanks. Larry David is a little bit of Matrix, like Red Pill or Blue Pill, where it's like once you kind of open your eyes to like, oh, everything does bother me. I agree. That's annoying. That's annoying.
Starting point is 01:42:04 What else annoys me? This thing, that thing. And and all of a sudden there is something very liberating about larry david where it's like kind of david price-esque where it's just like i don't fucking care right and you are being an asshole but it's kind of like everybody deserves to be a little bit he he is one of the few comedy stars who you treat like an action star and it says that when you go out like you're like i want to be larry yeah that's you go out, you're like, I want to be Larry. Yeah, that's so true. Nobody's ever like, I want to be Joe Bluth. Right, right.
Starting point is 01:42:33 It's like a funny show, but it's funny with tons of confrontation, which is why you get that action aspect to it. Right, and that's real life action. You know, you're never going to like fucking run in guns blazing, but what you are going to do is have an awkward moment at the dinner table. And you're going to bite your tongue.
Starting point is 01:42:48 And you're going to get in the shower the next morning and be like, I fucking should have said this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I should have stood up for myself. I should have said, fuck you. And that's what Larry does every time. I'm sure I've told this before. But I remember reading an article with his girlfriend where she says that she lives the best life because she gets to live the life of Larry David but doesn't have to be Larry David. Yeah, he does the arguing for her.
Starting point is 01:43:07 He speaks up for him. She's like, we'll be out to dinner. And he just goes, gets up. That's it. We leave. That's how we leave. That's how we leave dinner. And everyone's OK with it because they're like, well, it's Larry David.
Starting point is 01:43:17 It's the best thing you can do in life is reach that point where you get the free pass. It's Larry being Larry. And I think the joke almost usually is like your girl is the one who does the arguing right like she gets on the phone with customer service while i'm in the back total opposite for her she's just like larry gets get he probably doesn't have to argue anymore larry comes in and they're just like well let's do everything differently because if we do things conventionally larry david will roast us for it so let's just do everything we usually do the opposite of that which is very costanza it's very seinfeld very curb and it's very enviable.
Starting point is 01:43:46 Yeah. It's fucking... So the answer is, like, I mean... No, you'll probably never... You might not start acting on it, but your brain will always notice it now. You'll always think it. You know, what would... WWLDD.
Starting point is 01:43:57 What would Larry David do is not leave in your body anytime soon. You know who Larry David actually was in my first, like, comedian actor where I was like, Oh, that might be a fun way to live life. It was Dr. Cox, Dr. Perry Cox in Scrubs. He's comparable to Larry in the sense that he's like, I'm just going to say. Ron Swanson, similar. There's a couple guys who are just like, yeah, don't give a fuck. And it's like being an asshole is awesome.
Starting point is 01:44:21 It's great. It's amazing. Somebody once told me, if you ever have the choice between being a sucker and an asshole, be the asshole. And you have to deal with the bad that comes from that, too. But you don't want to be a sucker. Who was that? It was a therapist. You know what?
Starting point is 01:44:38 It's crazy how quickly life does go from, like, I've never once even thought the words my therapist says. And now i can't get through an hour of a conversation without it i feel like such a fucking asshole when i said my therapist says well my therapist says i'm gonna jab your fucking head off a guy i once know someone a wise man once said i'm learning now it's all like every time someone says that they're talking about their therapist hi kfcFC Fights, BC, Nick. So I started watching Lost because of KFC talking about it and because my mom keeps nagging me to watch it. But I'm 21 years old, so my parents watched it when it was originally on TV.
Starting point is 01:45:18 So I picked up stuff that has happened from watching it when I was a kid. I don't even know how old I was when it was on do the math um so I was just wondering so I know about like some key points like Desmond and Penny and like a lot of stuff that happens with Locke and like Ben I just finished season one so I know Ben's coming and that kind of stuff so my question is what do you think is worse for little bits and pieces to be ruined of a great tv series like that like big plot points and stories where like you know it's coming and so that's kind of ruined or for like an entire movie or series to be spoiled completely like yeah i don't know i mean i feel first of all desmond and penny greatest love story of all time desmond and
Starting point is 01:46:01 and the faradays need a fucking spinoff if they if they just did a whole spinoff of that it'd be incredible i don't really remember it oh go back and watch it i am desmond i'm always done season one awesome desmond is awesome um i think you know much like much like we've said cancel culture culture doesn't exist i don't think spoilers do oh you're not that's right this is a new thing though isn't it well i just i think some things you know the sixth sense type twist that ruins a lot but you know there are plenty of movies where it starts off with like someone dead and then it says like 72 hours earlier and you watch the whole thing right you're totally okay with that it's like if they if you own up to the spoiler it's okay it's just how you told the story you told
Starting point is 01:46:42 it in reverse or whatever so some i also don't like there's nothing where if i wanted to see it you telling me like oh this is what happens maybe maybe they're going well so i hadn't seen i wanted to see it i didn't know that hamilton's son died and that got spoiled for me and it didn't really right when it happened that was that was you i was like actually it's like more interesting now yeah wait till you see how the fuck you die right right so it's a more of a reason to Wait till you see how the fuck he dies. Right, right. So it's more of a reason to watch. Now, Lost is an interesting one. If you know, there's a couple, I'm not going to spoil it here,
Starting point is 01:47:10 but there's a couple major plot points. If you know where they are, when they are, during flashbacks and stuff, if that gets ruined for you, it would hurt. It would hurt a lot. I didn't realize how early The Polar Bear was. I thought The Polar Bear was a big reveal. I didn't realize how late Ben is. Yeah, you said he bear was like a big reveal i didn't realize how late ben is yeah you said he's like mid-season too yeah it's crazy dude i remember being on campus the day after the polar bear reveal and everyone being like there's a fucking
Starting point is 01:47:34 polar but i thought they lived life normally for a while and then it was like right away it was like oh wait this island's magic right right i thought it was just like oh wait. No, I think that was the first thing that kind of gets. It's the second episode. Yeah, yeah. It's right away. It's like something might be going on on this island. It's great. I paused on Lost to try to finish Dark.
Starting point is 01:47:56 I have two episodes to go in Dark. I don't even know if I can, in good conscience, recommend Dark. Because it's like a life ruiner it's so fucking dense it's insane and i i haven't seen like anyone talk about except you two oh it's so good dude if you if if you get it's not like it's it's a loud but small fan base everyone who does watch is like this is one of the best shows ever and it's like it's definitely one of the best time time travel pieces of content like ever it's comically complex it's i mean it's like five different families which like it could have just been three you don't need like five whole families of five people each so you're talking about like
Starting point is 01:48:40 25 main characters that all exist in four different timelines. So there's like 100 characters because they all have different like, you know, this is me when I was five. This is me when I was 25. This is me when I was 55. And they all interlock. I mean, you have a person who gives birth to their own mother. You have someone who kills their mother kills their own daughter you have uh a father who is his son right something like that i mean it is they take all the rules
Starting point is 01:49:16 and throw it out like i remember thinking my head kind of exploded when marty mcfly in back to the future 2 runs into the enchantment under the Sea dance and he sees himself there. And I was like, whoa, this is wild. And it takes that to the fucking 20 millionth power. It's crazy. And I'm on to the – I have one episode to go. And I'm like, I don't even think I know what's going on anymore, but I just have to finish this. I don't even know.
Starting point is 01:49:39 In the last two episodes, they kind of tied together like real quick in flashbacks. Yeah, season seven – episode, I could tell was like, we're doing the montage, and we're showing you everything. And I was like, this is supposed to be an awesome moment, and I got nothing. Which is maybe like, I think Westworld is stupidly complex. This told it. It's only three seasons.
Starting point is 01:50:00 Westworld's not even stupidly complex anymore. It's just not good. This is super complex, and the first two seasons, I kept with it. First half of season three, I was with it. Second half of season three, I was like, fuck. My brain just kind of tapped out. But it's German, too, so it's tough.
Starting point is 01:50:15 But I do recommend it. It's only 24 episodes. It's heavy watching, a lot of rewinding and shit like that. But you got to read along with it. You got to look at character maps and shit. But it is, if you're up for the challenge... I didn't look at any of the maps until the end, and then I was like,
Starting point is 01:50:30 oh, I did this. I'm gonna tell you something right now. I'm out on a fucking show where I have to use maps. I'm out. I wouldn't blame you. That's what I'm saying. I can't even tell you like, I need a recommendation. What's this? Like, this is a very niche thing that I think some people will love. I need a camping kit to go with this show. It's crazy. Yeah, it this show. It's crazy.
Starting point is 01:50:46 Yeah, it's true. It's tough. But if you do, pull it up. We'll go to the next voicemail. But pull up one of the dark character maps just so John can see just how complex it is. Because, again, you could have just done it in two timelines, not four. And you could have done three families, not five. And it would have like cut down exponentially the final the second to let the penultimate episode they jump in like they do like 20 different time periods it's absolutely ridiculous but if you can keep up with it i think
Starting point is 01:51:17 it's no doubt they did more in writing this is season one i'm oh shit i didn't bring it's they did more writing in i mean that's that's nothing that is nothing yeah that's season one that goes that that map right there probably goes five times over what yeah it's insane and look at the lines crossing over and shit and they have these things like like what happened to this person they died or they ceased to exist like there's a difference it's fucking why but they i will say i mean in other shows that took like you know season upon season upon season to intertwine and bring together and all that they didn't in 24 episodes or yeah eight eight episode three seasons so some unbelievable writing from dark if you can deal with the german and the headache you know let's do one more one more
Starting point is 01:52:02 voicemail we'll wrap it up this This is an extra long. What up? KFC fights Super Trooper BC. First time, long time. I was listening to KFC radio last week and the celebrity question got me thinking. Us celebrities, which profession is better in the sack? Athletes or musicians? On the one hand, athletes are more likely going to be in shape, be able to go
Starting point is 01:52:28 to pound town, but... I think this is a landslide for musicians. Right? What kind of crazy ass... You've got rhythm, you've got emotion, you've got romance, you've got heartache. Strength doesn't mean anything. You should go to pound town. They don't want that.
Starting point is 01:52:43 Yeah, Lenny Kravitz fucking make love to me. I'd rather go fucking have Khalil Mack hammer town on me. Two very good choices there. Two very apropos representatives of those jobs. I mean, guys who can dance and sing and improvise and play the rhythm and have the heartache to know what they've got. It's a good moment in the sack or experiencing this versus an athlete who's just like,
Starting point is 01:53:10 I fuck hoes. I'm in exceptional shape. You're going to like my abs. I can pick you up. That's what you present. This is what I got. It's only going to go downhill from here. Whereas musicians are going to be like,
Starting point is 01:53:26 that guy's got a good voice. He can play the instruments. I like his lyrics. And also he's going to like, a musician will eat your pussy. A musician will fucking go down on you for a long time. I mean, Lenny Kravitz had a fucking cock ring. No one in the NFL locker room has got a cock ring. Remember when that thing popped out? I think it came out fucking beautifully.
Starting point is 01:53:47 It wasn't exceptionally large. It wasn't small either. But it was just... It was solid. It unfurled. It was like his pants were leather and ripped and his dick just was... Obviously no underwear.
Starting point is 01:54:01 There it is. You know what's so funny? It's almost like the constant from Lost and Faraday. The constant at Barstool is Lenny Kravitz. Every blogger has talked about how they wanted to fuck Lenny Kravitz. We all talk about how he fucks guys and girls, and he's just this sexual aphrodisiac. His music's good, and his dick is good, and everybody here wants to fuck Lenny Kravitz. He wore that scarf one time.
Starting point is 01:54:24 That was just the most amazing. The Lenny Kravitz scarf is my favorite thing ever. wants a Buckley. He wore that scarf one time. That was just the one. The Lenny Kravitz scarf is my favorite thing ever. It's one of the most iconic pieces of clothing ever. Ever. It's my favorite picture on the internet, the Lenny Kravitz scarf. And when people do the Millmore, they Photoshop it just a little bit bigger. And I'm like, I can't tell. Is that the original or not?
Starting point is 01:54:39 Oh, Lenny Kravitz. I will suck your dick, man. Lenny Kravitz is a legend. He birthed the Lillian birth legend, but he helped procreate a legend. And then he's just like, he's just boys with his wife's new husband, which is just such a Lenny Kravitz thing to do.
Starting point is 01:54:56 Because he's like, you can't compete with me. I know you're second best. You're fucking it, man. He's just a guy. He walks into a party or a room, and he's just kind of like, what's up, man? And you're just like, fuck, you're fucking – yeah, man. He's just a guy. He walks into a party or a room, and he just kind of is like, what's up, man? And you're just like, fuck, you're awesome. Lenny Kravitz had a post that was like telling Jason Momoa, I love you, dude.
Starting point is 01:55:13 Like, no one can do that with anyone but with their husband's wife except Lenny Kravitz. Especially when it's Jason Momoa. Right, right. To have the confidence to be like, yo, Aquaman ain't shit. I can give him some love, and we're good. That isoa. Right, right. To have the confidence to be like, yo, Aquaman ain't shit. I can give him some love and we're good. That is impressive. No jealousy there. No one-upsmanship with that dude.
Starting point is 01:55:31 And it's motherfucking Aquaman. I'm trying to find it because it is like, I think it's the two of them and Zoe. And it's like him being like, I love you for how you've helped me raise my daughter. And it's like, it's a fucking cool ass post. And it's only Lenny Kravitz can do that. Lenny Kravitz's ex-wife, she must throw down. Lisa Bonnet?
Starting point is 01:55:53 To be like an older lady who's nabbing Momoa. Same thing with Jada Pinkett. Jada Pinkett and Will having that open relationship with that other dude. You heard about him? First of all, that's a snitch move to say that you fucked a girl in an open relationship. Bro, they have matching rings, Jason Momoa and Lenny. Yeah, I mean.
Starting point is 01:56:12 That's just a level. Those people, they did celebrity right. So like Britney Spears, we'll wrap it up here like bookending. Britney Spears, like her celebrity, like got to her head and her family and fucked everything up. Those guys were like, we're all so talented and so much above the fray that these normal things of jealousy and relationship issues and exes, like this does not even face this. Like let's all be cool.
Starting point is 01:56:34 And they all agreed to it. And they're all living the happiest lives. Just adopt me. Can I become a Kravitz please? Fuck. Do you see, speaking of Zoe Kravitz, why she,
Starting point is 01:56:42 she did a Fidelity? She said she knew it was going to happen, and she loved the movie so much she didn't want to fuck it up. Someone's going to do it, and it's got to be me. If it's getting done, fine. I'll fucking do it. Yeah, it's like, I'm not signing on until you greenlight this. Wow, that's a flex.
Starting point is 01:57:01 All right, that's it for us. Now we're going to wrap up our interview with Mike Posner, who is one of the most interesting cats ever, from his days at Barstool back to stool, where he was just performing his new pop records as a young kid coming out of college, to his pilgrimage across the United States, and his epiphany as an artist. I mean, one of the most eccentric, unique cats you'll ever talk to here on KFC Radio.
Starting point is 01:57:26 Mike Poser, let's talk to him. Yo. Yo, what's up, man? Yo. Oh, shit. I have my speakers on so loud. There he is. Yo, how we doing?
Starting point is 01:57:38 You're looking clean cut. I didn't know what to expect. I wasn't sure if we were getting the beard and the long hair or trim or what. Dude, I might go green on you guys. Yeah, you've reinvented yourself quite a few times. Hang the fuck on. How many fucking carrots
Starting point is 01:57:53 is that diamond in your ear right now? This is not a diamond. This is a quartz. Oh, yeah, yeah. I don't do blood diamonds. It's just a quartz. It costs like $10. Fuck's up, man. How you been $10. What's up, man? How you been? I'm chilling.
Starting point is 01:58:07 How are you? I'm great. I'm about to win the fucking EPL right now. I don't want to do it this way. It's this European Soccer League that John is pretending to be a fan of. Why is he saying he's going to win? What are you talking about? Because I'm a Liverpool fan.
Starting point is 01:58:24 I'm not pretending, by the way. That means your team won. You didn to win. I'm a Liverpool fan. I'm not pretending, by the way. That means your team won. You didn't win. Yeah, I know. You saw how he phrased it, Kevin. He said, I'm about to win. Listen, I'm with him too. You are sitting on your butt talking to me, bro.
Starting point is 01:58:39 You're not joking. You didn't fucking have any headers off a corner kick. I didn't do shit. You're right. I didn't do anything, but I'm about to win. And I don't want to win it this way. I want Liverpool to win by, like, scoring goals, and we're not going to. We're about to win it by just fucking not losing games. It sucks.
Starting point is 01:58:59 But how the fuck you been, man? I'm good. I'm good. Can't complain, man. Where are you guys at? We're both in New York. He's in our office. I'm back up in my uh i'm at home in my apartment i've been here for the last three months so you yo you got your whole uh your whole pilgrimage your whole trek in right before shit went down what would have happened if if uh you know could would you have stayed out
Starting point is 01:59:21 there walking if if everything popped off i don't know i've never definitely thought about that man it's just a lot to think about i mean i was thinking about like if i did my walk across america if i was black i've been thinking about that too because the police would get called on me pretty much like and i won't say incessantly but like probably 10-15 times to the point where like, every time we get to a new County, we just start calling the police on ourselves. So like, let them know we're coming. You think that would have happened? Would you have done that? You think you would have like given a heads up?
Starting point is 01:59:56 No, I'm saying I already had to do that. I did that because people are just like, who the fuck is this guy? Like walk, like we know everyone in this town,, who the fuck is this guy? Like, we know everyone in this town. You know, who is this guy? So cops, you know, I dealt a lot with the police. You know, they come out and say, hey, you know, what are you doing? And I tell them what I was doing. And they usually, like, take my ID and send me on my way.
Starting point is 02:00:20 But you just imagine being in fucking western Kansas or or you know real rural ohio and in that situation not going that way if i was if i was had darker skin man so i would think about that too you know it's like dude i always think about that i'm most well known for sorry just button that point up but like one of the things i'm most well known for is my walk across america and it's like man like if i was black i did did that, my mom might die. You know? So, I would think about that, too. It is a tough one to, like,
Starting point is 02:00:52 it is, the crazy thing is, like, you think about it, and you're like, that would be weird. But that's exactly how it would go. You're right. I guarantee you it wouldn't have been like, hey, have a good day. I would have been fucking sitting there for a while you know i'm saying at the very least you know it's hard to
Starting point is 02:01:12 like it's hard to put your mind in that like place because it's just something we don't deal with at all but that's like yeah it would go that way like it's crazy that it would go that way 100 were you always um like i feel like when you first came out do you remember by the way like working with barstool back in the day vaguely like there's some some show that went wrong or some shit something happened yeah when you first came out when cooler than me like first blew up we were doing like a little like small time concert series and uh you were one of the good ones we worked with a few acts that like kind of it didn't work out but everybody was happy with uh with you and your performance i i i guess it wasn't too
Starting point is 02:01:55 memorable for you but we all very fondly remember it because it was one of the first times we put a little bit of money in our pocket but when you were uh the mullen center which is where that was that fight is that you master yeah yeah i thought something went wrong or something i thought yeah you or something it wasn't no it wasn't you uh chitty bang did not go so well there was one act that like didn't go on stage and demanded their money back and all that shit and you you know there was no problems there so the show it had some drama but it was not mike posen related we all very fondly remember that song in that moment because it was good for us but when you first came out and cool to me was like this like rap pop song
Starting point is 02:02:35 and i mean i remember being surprised when i learned how like introspective you were and like you know something like doing this walk across the country. Like, I don't think I saw that coming based on like what your original single was. Were you always the type? Like, did you always kind of have this plan to do some like unique shit? Well, I mean, to start off, it's tough when you're artists. I don't want to be complaining because I really had nothing to complain about, but you understand in my life, I've made thousands of songs. Most of the songs I keep on this computer I'm talking to you on
Starting point is 02:03:10 because they don't meet my bar of excellence, you know, just to myself. Then, you know, but I have hundreds of songs that I've released. And for whatever reason in my life, I've had, I think, like five or six songs, some that are my own and some that i've written for other people just get really fucking popular and i don't know why i don't know which one it's gonna be whatever but it's like this thing you just you just wrote one day and that's how you're feeling now you're how you're feeling that whole day is how you're feeling that moment and it may sometimes it's not even how you're feeling. The thing just comes out. It almost feels like it comes through you, comes out. And so in my situation,
Starting point is 02:03:51 I have two really popular songs that I've sung. Again, I've written some other ones for other artists. And they're just disproportionately popular to my body of work. So if you listen to all my music, all my poetry, read my book of poetry, listen to my podcast, you have a better idea of who I am as a human. To just hear one song that I made, yeah, that's what I'm best known for. I understand. I'm not complaining at all.
Starting point is 02:04:22 That song has changed my life in a lot of ways. that's what I'm best known for. I understand. I'm not complaining at all. Like that song, that song, like, you know, it's put me, changed my life in a lot of ways. Um, but it's just not like the, the, it doesn't cover the spectrum of who you are as a human being, you know,
Starting point is 02:04:35 the best songs have been your most popular songs. Uh, I think like, I think like my, so my two most popular ones are Cooler Than Me and I Took a Pill in Ibiza right
Starting point is 02:04:49 both those songs when I wrote them I was like yeah I'm really proud of this you know I have no idea they're gonna be popular or not but
Starting point is 02:04:55 so I I think both those are are good songs for sure there's some other ones I think maybe are a little better just from like a like a writer's perspective you know have you taken a pill and a visa yeah yeah for sure
Starting point is 02:05:10 all right so we talked about this the other day on the episode we're like i was at i'm in new york right now and uh like drug dealers have been walking by like outside bars and they've been like yo who wants coke who wants whatever would you buy a drug off like some random dude walking by an outside bar well i'm i'm like pretty much so i'm so like i i'm i don't drink or all right but you're sober now but would you have back then shit i don't know man i i'm never like going too heavy with that stuff but it's a whole story to that night i was in a visa with avicii and you know ended up doing making some kind of silly decisions but well come on go on i mean it sounds just like the song i mean is it just the decisions we're making
Starting point is 02:05:56 basically uh the decision was fucking be wasted and then take a pill from a stranger you know that's the decision i'm referring to did avicii did avicii think you were cool i think so man like the thing i loved about tim was he actually like when before i even had a i don't think i had a record deal or what but like i was still in college you know right around the time you're talking about we did that show he somehow heard my stuff and um he was just like kind of bubbling up and he actually he sent me levels before it was out and was like man can you can you write to this and I guess he just liked my stuff and And I wrote a few songs to levels. It was the track before it had the sample. So it didn't have, oh, sometimes I get a good feeling. It was just the music.
Starting point is 02:06:51 I was a flex. Fuck you, by the way, for that. You can fix that in there. I'm not going to stop you. So I got it. So I just wrote a few songs to the track, and they actually kind of sucked. I didn't nail it. And so he ended up not using what I did. And he ended up using that sample instead, but we just kept in touch, man.
Starting point is 02:07:12 And, you know, it was crazy. Like with, with music, at least in my experience, it's a lot of ups and downs, you know, like, so with, you know, kind of, I didn't answer the second half of your of your first question kev like um i kind of came out the gate and shit went like really well for me you know uh like my first single was this song cooler to me and it was this big song over the world i'm getting paid more money than I probably deserve. I'm taking my shirt off at shows.
Starting point is 02:07:50 You're ripping the shirt off? Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. I love that. Were you in shape enough to be taking it off? Fuck yeah, or else I wouldn't have took it off, man. I got a little tough awareness over here. There are plenty of people who take it off. They shouldn't be taking it off man i got a little tough awareness over here uh there are plenty of people who take it off i don't like they shouldn't be taking it off just yeah then you gotta just admire the courage then but man i was kind of just like living out you know i was in fraternity at duke
Starting point is 02:08:19 i was living like a frat boy dream you know and And what happened was my songs that I put out after that kind of got progressively less popular to the point where I was what we call in the music industry shelved. So that means like I'm making a lot of new music at home and in the studios, but the record label is looking at it like, Hey man, the last shit you put out didn't sell that good so we're just not going to put your music out because we can't justify paying the producers uh paying the marketing costs etc is we just don't think it's going to return our
Starting point is 02:08:56 investment so we're just gonna you're basically caught in a holding pattern and they own your music and you can't you're stuck so. So that's where I was, man. After I had this big hit, I was basically like at home with nothing to do. Calendar's empty. How does that feel? I mean, at first it was horrible, like, because my identity had gotten so wrapped up in being cool and being the popular guy, you know, being that dude, that dude that once that, once that got taken away,
Starting point is 02:09:27 I didn't know who the fuck I was. Now, are you rich at this point? Yeah. Yeah. I had made money. I had made my, and, and thankfully like hadn't bought a bunch of Lamborghinis, you know, I'm not saying like I was like, like Drake, but I, you know, for a, you know, 24 year old guy. Yeah, I had a lot of money for sure. And so I'm just sitting there, I have this money and I go, what the fuck do I do now? You know, and I had to figure out who I was, if I wasn't popular, who I was, if I, if I wasn't the guy with the hit song, who I was
Starting point is 02:10:06 if girls weren't chasing after me. And it was like the best thing that ever happened to me. I decided, you know, hey, man, I'm not popular right now, but I still really love music. I still, you see my mic right here, like I still, I make music the same way I did when I was eight. So I just doubled down. I started taking lessons on singing. And I started taking lessons on guitar and piano. I didn't play any instruments, even though I already had a hit.
Starting point is 02:10:34 So I just started learning how to be a real musician. And that's like, Kev, to answer the second part of your first question, that's when that growth, I think, and that a little more depth came into my life to, you know, where I got to the point where I'm doing the things I'm working on now. Do you think that's weird how, like, the idea of celebrity is, like, everyone feels the best when they're out of it? You mean everyone feels the best when they're done of it you mean everyone feels the best when they're done with it is that what you're saying yeah yeah like once you're once you're done be like like you you said you just said you like you found yourself when you like weren't a celebrity anymore or not anymore but you know what i mean right where it's like i i didn't have that constant stream and like i feel like every celebrity is like,
Starting point is 02:11:25 that's when I fucking realized how life works. You found yourself or learn. Yeah. I think, you know, you just failure, even you can zoom out a little bit. Just failure is,
Starting point is 02:11:36 is really important. You know, and you can really learn a lot about yourself in those times. And so it was really good for me i became a deeper person for that for sure and then like the ironic thing is i wrote this song basically about that about like being famous and then it not being famous and that was what i took a pill nabiza was about and then that ended up being a bigger song in the court was a fucking smash dude that was a hit that was like next level big big type song right yeah it was it was you know the original song is like an acoustic guitar song you have one
Starting point is 02:12:20 these guys these great guys in norway they did a remix of it so how does that work like obviously it's still your song but like their remix is what pops off but it's still your music like that's still your money your success your everything yeah basically like my record label you know i was like living in my van at the time just because i wanted to like do van life for a while before that. Before van life was a thing, I was living in my van. That's some rich person shit. I want to live in not a house.
Starting point is 02:12:53 I want to be homeless for a little bit. It's the stupid shit white people do. He's like, what the fuck, man? They were like, hey, can we get a remix of this song? My A&R is Matt Duiardini, or then A&R is Matt Duiardini and Zeke Silvera. I was like, yeah, man, I don't care, because I came up doing a lot of remixes. You know, when I was in college, I remixed like Adele songs and Beyonce songs. A lot of people. So whenever somebody wants wants to remix mine i don't care and so basically
Starting point is 02:13:26 they take the the acapella the vocals i recorded for the first song they get rid of all the music and they sped it up made it faster and then they created all new music around it and um they did a really good job on it man it's like made this really cool like brand kind of new song out of my song yeah and things started to get popular in their country first like in Norway and um it just spread from there man it just spread from there and when did you decide to start this track across the country well that was something I was I was thinking about for many years I actually heard somebody mentioned it for like five years ago and right when I heard
Starting point is 02:14:07 it, I went, you can do that? I didn't know you could do that. And they're like, yeah, my friend did it. I was like, whoa. I just knew I definitely wanted to do it. And it just called to me right away. I didn't really have to think about it. But what happened was, Kev i i just put on the back burner you know how life life just keep coming at you and um i'll basically like following this plan of like an artist what i'm supposed to do so i make an album that i go on tour and i come back make another album that go on tour and i make another album you get the idea and so every year something would come up and a walk across america strategically it should start in the like early or late winter early spring you walk through because you can do it in six to eight months so the idea is you do it not in winter
Starting point is 02:14:58 so you start right when winter ends and you hopefully end before winter begins again and so it is like every spring, you know, something would get in the way and I kept putting it off, putting it off. And really what happened was, man, uh, was my dad died. And then a little bit later, um, Avicii died. And I just realized, you know, I'm going to die one day too, you know, hopefully not anytime soon, but you never know. And I'm going to die one day too, you know, hopefully not anytime soon, but you never know. And I'm only getting older. I was 31 at the time, 32 now. And I just realized,
Starting point is 02:15:34 you know, if, if this is something that I want to happen in my life, I want to be part of my life story. I'm gonna have to do it now or I'm, or I'm just never going to fucking do it. And I just decided, man, like I got so sick of watching podcasts and watching documentaries and being inspired and not being inspiring. I got so sick of that, you know, just sitting there, hearing about these great stories and then not doing anything. And so I just wanted to be, you know, people ask, why did you do your walk? I just wanted to be proud of myself. You know, if somebody said, who's your hero?
Starting point is 02:16:14 Who inspires you? I want to be able to look them in the eye and say me, you know. And so I'm basically living out, kind of trying to live out my own hero's journey. What's that feel like to be proud of yourself it's great you know and it moves it's a target it moves it's a funny thing that happens you put yourself in kind of and i'm sure you've experienced this in in your own way no just let me finish my point you know what i'm talking about so you put yourself in a certain type of community like i mean you make a decision like like, I'm going to walk across America.
Starting point is 02:16:46 Just by making that decision, there's a new community around you. By me making that decision, I ended up meeting probably eight people that were either walking or running across America at the same time I was. Pretty much all of them were harder than me. Pretty much every single one. They were doing it faster than me. They were doing it with less support than me. They were doing it with less fanfare than me. They were all better than me, basically. So you're in a different community, even in the barstool community of a super big pot. You know what I'm saying? So so you start getting around different people. So you get inspired in different ways. I love beating new people, but I'm always scared to do something like that. Like that's that terrifies me because I just I know I want to quit. When did you want to quit? Well, you wanted to quit.
Starting point is 02:17:44 What was the first time you wanted to quit? Well, it's a great question, man. And you alluded to fear. Fear is a big part of this. I don't want anybody to listen to this and just think, you know, I decided to walk across America one day and just did it. I was super scared, man. I was super scared before I started. I told everyone to do this thing and I didn't know if I could do it. You know, I didn't know if I'd make it there. So I never done anything like that before.
Starting point is 02:18:09 And it's no way you can really practice. I mean, you can go walk. You can go walk, right? You can go walk out of the lake, but it's not good. You know what I'm saying? So the only way you really find out if you do is to try. So was scared man and the beginning was was was kind of easy because i was easing into it like the first day i think i only walked eight miles but you start doing the math and you're looking at like fuck man if i go that slow i'm gonna be in the rocky mountains in the middle of winter you know this is where i don't want to be so i thought i was gonna have like more of a hippie dippy like real loose i meet some cool people i kick it with them for a week but it ended up being
Starting point is 02:18:51 the opposite it was an exercise in discipline for me you just had to show up it's raining great show up you're tired great show up walk your fucking feet hurt you can barely stand up great show up walk um question man walk yeah well the fact that you went back after the rattlesnake is crazy i feel like if you would have bowed out then and been like listen i tried i had to relearn how to walk you know it is what it is but you went back out there like a goddamn lunatic. Well, here's the thing, man. So I didn't really answer. The first time I really wanted to quit, John, was, let me rephrase that. I never wanted to quit, but I thought I wasn't going to make it, was when I reached Kansas.
Starting point is 02:19:40 So I started in New Jersey and basically. Dude, that's so far. That's so far. Yeah, it's like, I don't know, at that point so far yeah it's like i don't know at that point maybe but it's not halfway it's like a thousand miles plus but it doesn't matter if it's halfway that's so far let me break down the psychology to break down the psychology of this man so i always fuck cruising across the uh the midwest those states are smaller like indiana i think is like 108 miles wide or something like so you could i crossed that in like eight days across indiana i feel you know and it's june i never knew the difference between june and july before
Starting point is 02:20:17 you know it was all summer to me but june july is way fucking harder than june so june i'm crushing like ohio indiana Indiana, Illinois pretty fast. And I got to Missouri. So I crossed the Missouri River near St. Louis, walked through the suburbs of St. Louis, and then I get on what's called the Katy Trail. And at the time- St. Louis is a wild spot, huh?
Starting point is 02:20:39 Yeah, I wasn't really in St. Louis. I walked kind of in the suburbs of it. And you look back on the time the Missouri and the I think the Mississippi River both were just flooded to all hell yeah you know I don't want to let's put in perspective like it's people losing their home shit like that you know uh so let's put my story in perspective like but I'm more supposed to be walking on this trail called the Katie Trail used to be a railroad and it runs next to the missouri river and that shit like man i'm just going and then like i'm up to like my ankles in water and i'm like all right well maybe it'll
Starting point is 02:21:16 maybe just be like this for a little then i'm up to like my knees in water well it's like my fucking hips in water i'm like i gotta get off this fucking trail man why don't you walk somewhere else dude that's the thing is like you like making a small adjustment it's not like your car where it's like 10 extra minutes it's like you're going so what i end up having to do like i have full days i'm walking the wrong direction hang on you could have walked on the side no dude it's not like that like yeah it's just flooded you know what i'm saying like you're supposed to make this turn and there's no road there's a lake like a full lake and sometimes the water's running it's dangerous you know like
Starting point is 02:21:55 you just walk through like like there's trees and shit going by bro like in the water like you know what i mean when you're doing this are you uh like you can't cross with you for a little while like do you have people with you in case some shit really goes wrong are you like on your own i walk supported which is really important and i always say to our respect for these other hard motherfuckers men and women who just walk with a backpack or a cart so way i did it was um i had a buddy we had an rv it would go ahead of me each day and basically i walk i'd be by myself when i walk and then i'd catch up to it and then the guy would like get food and usually we'd sleep in that unless like i was in the mountains or the desert
Starting point is 02:22:39 and i sleep in the tent because rv can't drive there um but basically so i'm in missouri missouri is just a shit show man it starts getting hot and uh it's like heat advisory 100 humidity all this shit man it was really hard and i kept telling myself like just make it to kansas just make i kept saying that to my like just make it to kansas and so what happened was eventually i did make it to kansas took about three weeks to cross missouri for him and when i made it to kansas so much time when i made it to kansas it was this beautiful moment as you imagine like i started crying like i fucking made it to kansas no one knows how hard that was etc and i went to bed that night it was the end of my day right across the border. I felt very accomplished. But what happened? The next morning, my alarm goes off 4 a.m.
Starting point is 02:23:29 It was like every other day and I had to walk again. And what I realized was I created this sort of false finish line in my head, which was Kansas. My goal wasn't to make it to Kansas, to make it to Pacific Ocean. And when I when I got to walk that next day, it was like, man, I just had nothing left. It was like my body was fucked up. Like, it just felt horrible, man. Like, I just could barely make it.
Starting point is 02:23:57 Like, I woke up in the morning, I could barely stand up. Like, my body hurt so bad. And my mind just started running with that, you know? So it's like, you had this horrible sensation, pain in your body. And my mind started going, bro, you're not even halfway. You're fucked. You told everyone you're going to do it and you're fucked. Like, like if you're this bad now and you're not even halfway what makes you think you'll ever feel better than this you know what i'm saying like you just have to walk more miles
Starting point is 02:24:32 that's what my brain was doing and so that was like that was my i remember that day was the hardest day like i didn't want to quit but i felt like i wasn't going to make it. What I had to do was separate reality from my story about reality. It was two different things. So reality, my body hurt, there was pain, it was hot, et cetera. That's facts. That's what's really happening. But my story was, hey, this means you're not going to make it. I was taking reality, making a mental story about it. So I had to separate those two. I took a day off and I just rested, tried to recover, and then just do one more day and get rid of this story. And so that's what I did. Eventually, I kind of bounced back. And then you just try to build on your past successes.
Starting point is 02:25:21 So I always count how many miles I went. The first time I went 100 miles like 100 miles so less than one percent of the journey was 100 miles you know and um so you just can't try to keep building like that no i i got a question and it's a random question i just thought of it right now why are your nails your fingernails on your right hand long and yeah it's the question I get a lot. So it's for the guitar. So basically, when I hold the guitar now, you know, this hand, you have to hold the strings down. So these nails need to be short.
Starting point is 02:25:55 And this hand, you know. Those are some claws, bro. Yeah. You don't need it to play guitar, but there's a certain type of sound you get when you when you have nails so yeah that's what my girlfriend says too when you got bit by that rattlesnake uh i remember on this show we joked that you should have had to start back from the very beginning you drove back to the point that you got bit by the rattlesnake yeah you were like now you're cheating if you had to start all the way over again, would you have been done?
Starting point is 02:26:28 If that's the commitment I made before I started, I would have honored that. That's the whole thing. There's no rules to something like this. So it's not like playing soccer or basketball. NBA sets the rules. With this, like I already alluded to, there's a lot of people that did it in a harder way. I met some of them. They're amazing. Amazing. They're running 40 miles
Starting point is 02:26:50 a day with a big backpack. How do you meet them by the way? Like, do you see them? A lot of times, cause I, you know, from who I was, you know, just being a musician before I got a fair amount of press from doing it. So a lot of them just reach out to me, you know, on Instagram and so yeah it's one guy like two days before i got bit by a snake is one guy stevie he's running the opposite way and we uh we spent a day together i mean that guy was amazing he did it way faster than me with no support so here's the thing man to answer your question kev is like i think you set the rules for yourself when you start. You know, mine was I'm going to walk supported. I'm not going to skip no fucking steps. Right.
Starting point is 02:27:28 There's one line that goes across. You know, sometimes at night where I stopped walking would not be, I couldn't sleep there. So a lot of times, and this was cool with me, a lot of times we would take, I would go to that spa, touch a sign with my pole. Then I drive the sign again. I keep going to that spot, touch a sign with my pole. Then I drive the RV to that sign again. I keep going. Those are, that was my rules for me, you know? So as long as I had integrity with myself, it was one fucking day.
Starting point is 02:27:54 We went to bed and we moved the RV like 10 feet. We were blocking this shit. And I forgot in the morning, I just walked. I missed like 10 steps. So I walked that day. I was like, man, we got to fucking just walked I missed like 10 steps so I walked that day I was like man we gotta fucking go back get those 10 steps can you imagine just knowing that like I skipped those 10 steps you know so I think like I don't know like if if if so I was already like you know getting in cars a lot you know to go sleep somewhere come back so to me to go to the
Starting point is 02:28:23 hospital I had to go home to rehab. I didn't look at that as like a broke breach in integrity for myself. And that's all that mattered to me. I didn't know. It's like other people are, they ride a bike, you know, that's cool. They say I'm going to ride a bike and they do what they said. I think as long as you do what you said, then it's great. I don't think I realized how bad the snake bite was. Like you had to like relearn how to walk. I didn't realize it either, bad the snake bite was. You had to relearn how to walk, huh?
Starting point is 02:28:45 I didn't realize it either, man, because this is why. They have a medicine called antivenin. When I hear that word, antivenin, I think you get it and you're all better. I thought I was going to go to the hospital, get the antivenin, and I thought I'd just go the next day keep walking so they were like first off i'm fucking this the snake bites me man and i'm sitting on a side road in the middle of nowhere in color eastern colorado flat part of colorado i'm 30 miles from la junta and like 60 miles i think from i forgot that that town's i can't remember the next town's name, but 60 miles from the next town
Starting point is 02:29:26 on Colorado 10, and it's like, man, we didn't have service, so the one guy ran up, he, like, was able to call 911, like, he got, like, a bar, and then, and it doesn't really hurt that bad at first, so I'm, like, fucking around, trying to, around trying to keep the mood light and then about 10 minutes later the venom starts going through you and it's like remember the looney tunes at the end where the thing goes that's all folk if that's what exactly how it felt like like my conscience was just getting darker this was my real sensation just getting darker darker darker closing in like that and i would like kind of wake up like fuck and i realized like man this is no joke and yeah and so we're talking 9-1-1 lady i was like she said hey you know i sent ambulance from one town ambulance from the other and a helicopter whatever gets there first
Starting point is 02:30:18 get in it and by the time i felt that that sensation a few times i asked her you know like am i gonna die and she said i don't know sir i can't tell you that she didn't even lie to you yeah a lot and and then i looked it up later oh in the u.s almost nobody dies from snake bites but the like you have to get that medicine though if you don't get the medicine you die 100 so like if that dude didn't get that bar of service you're done well yeah i also i walked with and i'd still climb mountains with now i have a garment in reach which is like a satellite thing that okay i guess you can hit the sos button i think they've never
Starting point is 02:30:56 had to um but anyways they got me to the hospital and they told me very quickly like you're gonna be here for a while you know you're people lose their legs from this it doesn't look like you're gonna lose your leg you look good but we got to make sure and yeah man we're from like to walk at that time I was walking 24 miles a day and I couldn't walk to the bathroom my legs swelled up like this big and you know at the time they were saying like a couple of doctors like you need to take like six months for you to recover eight months and so I didn't know you know I think it does you know if you're older and I'm in good shape I think it could take that long but I was able to recover it took me about three weeks
Starting point is 02:31:37 um to where I was able to go back to that spot where I got the bite and then I had about a thousand more miles to go and and you know that's the best part of the snake bites people always want to talk about the snake bite story because it's like is I got hurt you know but the but the main point of that is that you know I finished what you started you know so what's next for you you're doing Everest next right uh definitely definitely got some some mountains that's what I'm focusing now What's next for you? You're doing Everest next, right? Definitely got some mountains. That's what I'm focusing on now, mountaineering.
Starting point is 02:32:11 So that's what I've been working on. I've seen the movie Everest. I wouldn't do it. Yeah. Like, you already got, like, a big-ass accomplishment. Just fucking, like, stay in the studio and hang out, man. Relax for a little bit. Jesus. Yeah, I feel you.
Starting point is 02:32:23 So, I mean, I have, like, a long – I think it's actually on my website, too. stay in the studio and hang out man relax for a little bit jesus yeah i feel you so i mean i haven't like a cut for long i think it's actually on my website too there's like a lot of things i want to do in my life and most of them are you know either spiritual or artistic or intellectual pursuits things i want to study and then there's a few athletic ones one was the walk across america so um you know just strategically i kind of want to knock out the athletic ones now. Like I said, I'm only getting older. I'm 32 now. I'm only getting older, bro.
Starting point is 02:32:49 All right. Yeah. So you're a little bit older than me. You're 32. I'm 31. I'm going to do all that shit by the time I turn 32. Cool. I'm going to have a couple of hit records.
Starting point is 02:32:58 No, either way, you can just watch me the way you watch fucking Liverpool, man. You get it. Yo, we won the league, baby. Congratulations, Sean. How does it feel? You got any music coming out or what? What's the latest with that? Are you doing music while you do these things or do you put music on hold?
Starting point is 02:33:19 Yeah, I mean, actually, the year that I walked across America, last year, 2019, I actually released two albums. So it was a really productive year. And in the quarantine, I've made a lot of music. But basically, I've kind of like created my own lifestyle. You know, most artists, they tour really heavy. I never made a ton of money from touring as it was. I made more money from writing, you know, my songs. And it's also songs for other artists, you know, written songs for Justin Bieber, Maroon 5.
Starting point is 02:33:51 Is that hard? Is that hard to like, be like, yo, I wrote this song. And like, it becomes a massive song. And with, you know, like, you know, a Bieber of sorts. Does that, does that hurt? Like, are you like, fuck, that's my song, dude. does that hurt like are you like fuck that's my song or you are you proud no no like i said i said earlier you know us writers like real writers we've written thousands of songs in our lives you know and me like i could write anywhere in a year i could write anywhere from like 50 to 100 songs and i don't even do an album every year usually i do an album like in
Starting point is 02:34:27 a year but it's gonna be 10 songs on that album right so some you know it's just a lot of songs that i'm not putting out i'm not using um so if they make sense for other people and usually i write the thing for myself and then i'll play it for other people and then they'll kind of change it a little bit to make it their own and so so I think it's really cool, you know, when those things come out and when they're popular. You know, same thing, like you never know what's going to be. I've written a lot more songs that aren't popular, but it's cool. Well, man, it's a fascinating story you've got. I feel like there's a lot more ahead of you, too.
Starting point is 02:35:01 You're a young dude. I can't imagine what it's going to be like when, know when mike posner's like 71 not 31 i'd imagine the list of economists is gonna be fucking crazy man a couple stories i have to do part two and yeah 40 years put on the books fucking 2060 story man and uh keep making that music stay out there on your grind and stay safe dude don't don't get bit by anything. Don't fall off a mountain. Just stay alive, okay? You got it, man.
Starting point is 02:35:28 You guys have a good one. I appreciate you having me on and yeah, it was just fun speaking with you. So have a good one. Thank you so much, Posa. You too, bud. All right.
Starting point is 02:35:36 Peace. Nobody can see. And all of these emotions are pouring out of me. I bring them to the life in you. It's only right. This is the soundtrack to my life. The soundtrack to my life. To my life. To my life. To my life.
Starting point is 02:36:03 To my life. To my life. To my life.

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