KFC Radio - Nate Reveals Why He Is The Way He Is - Full Interview
Episode Date: February 6, 2025Timecodes: 0:00 Start 00:20 Nate thinks the government is trying to keep us poor 10:13 Is Kevin desensitized to money? 23:23 KFC feels much healthier having taken a step back 34:46 Ria get...ting backlash for going to Paris 38:35 What is the point of Crypto or investments? 42:22 Nate HATES his parents 45:52 How parenting has changed from how our parents raised us 51:20 How Jackie gets over sleep paralysis 54:24 Nate thinks the government is trying to keep us poor 01:05:20 Deepseek 01:13:27 Nate and Jackie keep track of who watches their IG stories 01:22:06 Jackie's app "Carmunicate" 01:25:20 Scared of Dave 01:33:47 Pick up lines that work on girls 01:40:53 Severance +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Presented by Jackpocket: GAMBLING PROBLEM? CALL 1-800-GAMBLER, in NY Call 877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY. 18 or older (19+ in Nebraska, 21+ in Arizona). Void where prohibited. 1 per new customer. Enter promo code at checkout for $2 non-withdrawable credit. Terms: jackpocket.com/tos/free-ticket-promo/. Based on iOS download data collected by Sensor Tower from October 2024. Scratch tickets subject to availability Gametime: Download the Gametime app today and use code KFC to easily score great deals with Gametime Picks! Draft Kings: Download the DraftKings Sportsbook app and use code KFC. GAMBLING PROBLEM? CALL 1-800-GAMBLER, (800) 327-5050 or visit gamblinghelplinema.org (MA). Call 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY). Please Gamble Responsibly. 888-789-7777/visit ccpg.org (CT), or visit www.mdgamblinghelp.org (MD). 21+ and present in most states. (18+ DC/KY/NH/WY). Void in ONT/OR/NH. Eligibility restrictions apply. On behalf of Boot Hill Casino & Resort (KS). 1 per new customer. Min. $5 deposit. Min. $5 bet. Max. $200 issued as non-withdrawable Bonus Bets that expire in 7 days (168 hours). Stake removed from payout. Terms: dkng.co/dk-offer-terms. Ends 2/9/25 at 11:59 PM ET. Sponsored by DK. Huel: Get Huel today with this exclusive offer of 15% OFF + a FREE Gift at https://huel.com/KFC15 SimpliSafe: Visit https://SIMPLISAFE.com/kfcradio to claim 50% off a new system with a professional monitoring plan and your first month free. Evan Williams: Enjoy Game Day’s #1 Pour, Buy Now. Join Bourbon Nation. https://evanwilliams.com/bourbonnation Eroxon: Try Eroxon today – available in stores and online. Visit https://www.eroxon.us to learn more. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/kfcr
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We got the dog in the building.
The dog is out.
I will say off the leash out of everything I do. I will say. Off the leash.
Out of everything I do, I think this is the show that I'm best on and most comfortable on.
I think we've had good episodes.
We do it like twice a year.
I think they're always very fun.
That's very nice.
Very relaxed.
I would agree with that.
I've never done one with Jackie, I don't think, though.
Are you okay with that?
Yeah.
I don't think you were.
It's not so much you.
It's much that you're a woman.
We do other shows together.
We do fishbowl all the time.
Yes, we do fishbowl together.
Fishbowl. Communicate. did you know this about jackie uh she for secret santa i bought
someone a present and then jackie didn't put she didn't put my name in secret santa so i just never
got a present didn't get anything you know something else about jackie didn't tell me
about my present what's that what was your present career uh jenks's jenks got me some cleanings that i'm not gonna use but listen guys he like flagged me down he's like i got you uh did jackie tell you and i said no
you shouldn't tell me anything and he's like well i got you room cleanings or something like that
our apartment cleanings and i said thank you i genuinely mean thank you but i'm not gonna like
ask him for like the number or anything like that you know i'm so bad if you already paid for it i
almost feel like you should he also bought you glass seats for the rangers brew i wasn't gonna
be i wasn't here that he texted again i i don't have a problem with janks he was very nice and
he's very apologetic it was like 10 texts me being like i can't go to the game and they'd be like
what about these seats i was like i can't go to the game and he's like what about these i can't
go to the game he's like the seats they're in your're in your email I was like I will not be in the city
wait so did you get your
like it wasn't a physical
no I don't know
he just told me that
and I
continued on
but it was just like
printed out
because then it's a thing like
if he's like
you order them
and I will pay for them
and he hasn't paid for anything yet
then he just got away
without giving you a gift
I would imagine
he bought like a
he knows I think someone said like –
They're not someone.
He said –
Pass them over here.
My kids run through my house.
I got my guy.
I can't go against my –
You have your illegal children.
Yeah.
You have to have a house cleaner though, Kevin.
You have a mansion.
Yeah.
We have –
It's actually funny.
The lady who cleans my house has been with us forever.
So like she cleans Caitlin's house,
cleaned our house,
we were together.
And now that she cleans both our houses.
So she's like part of the kids life.
Yeah.
She's like hugging them and shit.
Yeah.
She's,
she's,
she's in it.
She's in it for life.
I remember.
She doesn't do a great job.
I,
we have a house cleaner that I've been using forever.
And it's like having someone who cuts your hair you don't like
Just keep doing it
He'll be just leaving dirty rags around forever
I don't
I feel for the cleaners
Because like
I'll be like why did she put that in that drawer
And it's like they don't fucking live here
They don't know where you put shit in your house
Why didn't you put it in the drawer before they came
You left a big fucking mess and they cleaned up as they saw fit.
They're not going to ask you where the fuck everything goes.
But sometimes it's like, why is the television remote in the pantry with the food?
It's not just our people.
It's everybody.
They're just trying to clean up.
They go to their meetings, and they're like, what do we do this year?
Let's put remotes where they don't pull off.
Well, they try to clean a huge house as quick as they can.
They're just like, whatever.
This is not the same thing,
but it just reminds me, during Surviving Barstool,
I remember we were sleeping and Rudy had woke up and he was like,
they were turning on lights and everything.
I was like, well, first of all, we shouldn't be sleeping there.
First of all, it's 8 a.m. That's a perfectly
normal time to start your day.
He was like, 8 a.m. It was the middle of the night.
Speaking of
getting up early, big purchase I just made.
Oh, yeah.
I bought a $200 standalone alarm clock because I want to become a better morning guy.
What do you mean standalone?
Like a little grandfather clock type thing?
No, no.
It's called like a hutch or a hatch or something.
Oh, yeah.
It's a top-of-the-line alarm clock.
And it was $200.
And then, which I didn't know at the time,
it's like a subscription alarm clock too,
where you have to pay monthly.
Uh,
it's like,
it's only like five bucks monthly or whatever,
but Marty recommended it.
Noise and calming lights.
It's crazy.
It like the sun rises on it in the morning.
And then you have all the,
I've actually heard some pretty good things.
It has great reviews,
but now I just,
when I wake up in the morning, I just stare at at it because i watch the sunrise on it and i don't
get out of bed i just literally make these things for kids this like started with kids they they uh
so it's usually like a red light or a green light or something like that but it's like you cannot
get out of bed until oh that's cool the light goes green or until like mickey pops up or whatever to
keep your kids like because they wake up at like 5 a.m yeah and you set it to like not you so you can wake up but you got to stay in your room like quiet time until
7 a.m or whatever the fuck you're just like a child are you are you liking it it's a 200 white
noise machine it's like a fan for me at this point i just put it on at night and the rain falls and
then the rain's still going when i wake up and i watch the sunrise on and I scroll my phone and I still don't get out of bed. So no, it's...
That's crazy.
Has any of you guys' moms
been trying to tell you guys
to listen to like Mel Robbins?
To who?
Me and all my friends,
like,
and a lot of people I know,
our moms are all like
making us listen to Mel Robbins.
I don't know that name.
Mel Robbins is this woman.
I don't know,
but I guess her PR team
is working overtime and targeting like 56-year-old women. She's like a that name. Mel Robbins is this woman. I don't know, but I guess her PR team is working overtime and targeting
like 56 years old.
She's like a motivational speaker.
Is it Tony Robbins'
wife? No, it's not.
But my mom's paying me
$100 to listen to her audiobook.
And I'm listening to it right now, but it's like the 5-4-3-2-1
thing that I was, I think, saying
at one point. And it's like, in order to get
out of bed, you gotta do 5-4-3-2-1. What is that like? It's just 5-4 point it's like in order to get out of bed you
got to do five four three two one what is what is that like it's just five four three two one get
out of bed oh i do that give yourself a little i don't actually do it but i like i lay there
until i feel something yeah and i like just like it's like like i will i will lay and scroll but i
will like be open to uh encouragement i guess and then i'll be if i see
something because the first thing i do in the morning is go to the gym so i just like wait
until i see something that's like makes me want to go to the gym i used to watch gym gym tiktoks
like sometimes sometimes i will just stumble upon you know a workout guy i follow sometimes i'll
just stumble on a song uh Bruins highlight, whatever.
And then I'm like, all right, time to go.
And I just kind of, it's all momentum.
It's just momentum.
That's mostly why I bought it
because I wanted to become a morning gym guy
because I was going from 10 to 11 at night every night.
That's crazy.
That's serial killer hours.
It's just, I like watching the Capitals
and then I like sitting around doing nothing.
I think it's crazy,
but there's something kind of nice about it too.
I don't like crowds.
I don't.
And I procrastinate and it closes at 11.
So I see the clock hit like 945.
I'm like, I got to go.
I got to go.
That's good.
And then I get like.
And then it's also like a cutoff.
So it's like.
Exactly.
I can't even stay.
Then what happens though is I have to do the whole after gym routine once I get home from
the gym.
And I was sleeping from like two to eight.
You know, it was not.
That's not good.
But it's, there's just something.
Once you can't do that, there's an allure to it
where I'm like, I wish I, I mean, my life's so weird
because like half the time I can do whatever I want
and half the time I can't.
So I can't really like get much momentum
one way or the other.
Yeah, it is tough.
I'm not going to like force myself to wake up at 6 a.m.
You build in a gym in that mansion?
I don't.
Not yet.
No.
Maybe one day.
But like I am.
I think I reached a point.
I don't know whether it's 40 or whatever.
I'm just like I'm just eating better and doing shit now and I just don't care.
It does not affect me anymore.
I used to hate it.
And now I'm just like I think I I just had like a gluttonous, you think i i i just had like a gluttonous you know
30 years specifically like a gluttonous like decade and i'm just like i'm done with it yeah
no i still snack and eat like i'm not like eating healthy but i'm like you have a hold of your life
now yeah but and it really was just like it just finally just happened like there was nothing
i just was like i can't do this anymore okay and. And it used to be like, I would do it. I
mean, this is still relatively short period of time, so we'll see how long it lasts, but I'm
feel, I can feel the difference in it where I'm just like, I used to like, I want to do nothing.
I want to eat snacks. I want to just like be a bum. I want to just keep watching TV. And I reached
a point where like, I've just done that for so long and there's enough hours in a day. And I do
have enough freedom with like half my life that i can do all those things but i just feel
like i you find in hobbies like i remember seeing uh seth myers seth myers was on mike
for bigley's podcast and i saw a clip where he was just talking about like doing different things
and it's such a simple thing he said but like it really resonated with me where he was just like
look man it's a long life and i was like i was
like yeah you get to live a lot of them that's what i mean like i i did this for 10 years and
i fucking loved it i had a lot of fun yes now i'm doing this for 10 years and i'm a lot of fun doing
this and i'm doing that for 10 years after that yeah this is a great segue i took some notes of
like possible discussion points that we can have oh yeah and one of the things i wrote down well
there's two it all kind of combines into what we're talking about organically.
Are you desensitized to money, Kevin?
Like, like you've gotten to the point, I know I mentioned whatever, but like, like you're,
you know, you got the cash out and I'm sure you're paid well.
And like, I, I'm not desensitized, but with like crypto, it's made me re like the swings that I've gone through in that, just percentage of my net worth,
has made me be like, eh.
It's just numbers on a screen type of thing.
I hear you.
I hate paying $1.99 seamless fee,
but then I can also lose extravagance.
You are weird with money.
There are some things where you're like,
that's $100.
I'm like, yeah.
And then there are other things you're like,
it's $10,000.
Who cares?
Exactly.
I've always found for me that my expenses have always grown with my money and almost outpaced my money.
So like I don't know.
It's just like I added a zero to, you know, it's just like expensive, bro.
So it's like every couple months, every like a couple times a year I have have to pay my kids tuition it's just like 25 grand poof out the window but do you do you
i just have to do it feel anything when it goes away yeah no i still feel it but i but i like
yeah i mean i definitely still feel it i also like taxes were crazy yeah bought my house cash
bought my parents and my sister sister helped them with their house.
The divorce settlement was way higher than I thought it was going to be.
And I turned around.
I was like, okay, wait a minute.
It's not like I can do whatever I want for the rest of my life.
So I have a good amount of crypto, not a ton, but whatever.
And then I have stocks.
And the swings, it's just up and down thousands per day and i always think like if i just had double the amount of money that i currently have which isn't
very much but if i just had you know a little more everything would feel free it's just like
you don't yeah oh if you if you're like a single guy yeah i you know if i had like my money and
just like lived a single life i i feel like I think about someone like movie who's been just getting
tick tock money out the ass since she was like a sophomore in college
or whatever.
She must be the richest person alive.
Yeah.
I thought it was a decent amount of money,
which is nice,
but it's like,
are you like cake in it?
Um,
I think that you're at the level kind of what you're saying where it's
like,
you don't need that many expenses at this age. Yeah. So you just, you just have enough to buy what you want. When you want it, you can get it. If you're at the level, kind of what you're saying, where it's like you don't need that many expenses at this age.
Yeah.
So you just have enough to buy what you want.
When you want it, you can get it.
If you're just paying for yourself and it's as extravagant or as bare bones as you want it to be.
Yeah.
We kind of said that the other day.
Like, you know, every level of my life has always just been like, I don't know, I can afford to do what I want.
Yes.
Like, even when I was like 17 or like
i only had like a fucking no way for me like but like i just wanted to do different things like i
don't know like i wanted to i mean if you're 17 you want a rolex you can't right but if you're
17 and you were like i just want to go to the bar and like i've always been able and like yeah i
just wanted to drink bud lights and eat 25 wings so i can afford to do it yes and then like i got
a little older and i wanted to do something else. It's when your tastes exceed your status in life.
I'm so happy now.
All I like to do now is try good restaurants and eat like omakase.
I don't even know what that is.
That's the other thing.
I have pretty white crab tastes.
Individual pieces of sushi.
Like the fancy stuff.
Got it.
It's the only thing I enjoy at this point.
I don't like anything more than i like that and to be able to like go to that dinner and pay a bill and not have to like
sweat out like another paycheck that's where it was i remember you guys have said it getting paid
fifty thousand dollars a year was the best feeling i ever had it took me three years at barstool
dude i was talking about that the other day i think three years when we moved to New York, which was seven years ago, eight years ago.
Yeah.
I'm pretty sure I made, not pretty sure, I know, I made 60 grand.
That was like, how did we do that?
Bro, I don't know if that shit really has gotten out of my control, though, because I don't think that would be possible now.
Yeah.
You live with two people.
I live with two people, but like, even that, I feel like I shouldn't have been able to make it work, but you make it work.
You made it work, yeah.
And now, I mean, it is kind of – it's cool to see, like, you – I mean, everybody's, like, took forever, but people have money now, and it's, like, really cool to see.
Yeah, yeah.
We were just talking about it with Rowan last week.
Like, most of us have been here long enough now. That was great. That really fucked me up. That, yeah. We were just talking about it with Rowan last week. Most of us have been here
long enough now.
That was great.
That really fucked me up.
That was great.
Wait, why?
Just the way you,
how smooth you were with that.
Oh, yeah.
We talked to Rowan 10 minutes ago.
Oh, shit.
Behind the curtain,
we're all wearing the same clothes.
That was crazy.
That was not crazy, guys.
That was like the most
impressive hosting I've ever seen.
20 years of doing this, you finally got it.
You finally got it.
Tip of the cap.
I made it.
It would have been so much cooler if we were chill about that.
But I was saying to Rowan that every last week,
everybody has been here long enough that everyone's a veteran at some point.
Like when it was like I've been here 10 years and you've been here three years, there's a big difference.
When it's like 15 versus 10, it's, you know, whatever it is.
It's like everybody's been here long enough and they're doing well enough that they're making some money.
And the point being that we're all getting to a point where you're just doing what you like, hopefully, rather than like chasing.
Great segue into my next point that i wrote down uh when do you start doing
bucket list things like at some you've been doing this how long 15 years more than that yeah 15 you
ever thought about like i'm gonna take three months you have kids so it's a little different
but like in general like i'm gonna take three months go to greece i don't know go to japan i
don't think that first of all i i don, I don't really do the bucket list.
I've always been like – that was a bucket list moment that I didn't even realize.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like I – I don't know.
There was never a –
What's the most time you've taken?
Two weeks for your honeymoon?
Yeah, probably.
I mean that's crazy.
But I just don't think that way.
Like I don't think I –
Because you're addicted to the content game?
Probably, yeah.
I always remember
the the article do you want to well i'm very like you can kind of i know i live a weird life
i live a very strange life i i remember saying this a few years ago like looking on like people's
instagrams and they were like traveling right i've told this before and i was like man that person's
like surfing in hawaii like And I'm just sitting here.
And it's like you could just go do that.
But I remember you were kind of saying like those people, that's not like their life.
That's like their highlights.
And you think it's like their everyday life.
And so I go back and forth.
But highlights are important, right?
Yeah, yeah.
But I just don't.
I'm a very like passive, I guess, person where I'm like, I could plan a big trip, and then
I just don't. Why don't you try doing the ones I
do? Because those, I feel like, are more
where you're up your alley. Jet to England for a weekend.
Yeah. I love
doing that. I don't think I would like taking...
The kids are an issue. You can have some weekend
without them, right? Just be like, I'm going
Thursday night, I'll be back Monday.
Just go somewhere. No, I know. The divorce
life is a weird one where, again, it, it's like I have this 50-50 and it's like if I'm not with them, I'm like either feeling guilty or I feel like I should be there or they have like one practice and I'm like, I got to go to that practice.
And it's like you can probably skip a practice and go away.
Do you go to every practice?
Not every one.
But practices – I got to – but practices are a little bit nuts.
With Keegan, I'm like a volunteer coach, kind of.
So I help with the practice.
I'm not just sitting around.
I mean, it's not a bad thing to be involved in your kids.
Well, yeah, but you do reach a point. I'm like, at some point, I can't go to practices with my kids.
Eventually, you don't want your dad around.
Keegan still very much does.
So I'm like, fuck.
I'm always like, you want to just go with the other boys, right?
And he's like, no, I want you. So I'm like, fuck. I'm always like, you want to just go with the other boys, right? And he's like, no, I want you there.
I'm like, great.
So, but even, I need to really figure out how to, I mean, it's a bigger.
Like flip a switch and be like, I'm, so like this stuff I think about a lot.
It's like, and you see, it's like a meme at this point.
It's like, you know, you can just do anything.
I know.
You're like that type of thing.
You can just do it.
And I think about that a lot.
Like, I don't want to get fired.
But I also a lot of times think, like, I could just go somewhere.
Yeah.
Like, I can do stuff.
And I don't really do it.
And now I'm, I mean, 36.
I haven't seen any of the world.
You know, I haven't seen anything.
Do you think that there's a –
There's a whole world out there.
Do you think that there's a correlation, though, between the people who do it?
You don't even know what I'm going to say.
The answer is yes. Because I don't think there is. I'm think that there's a correlation though between the people who do it? Yes. You don't even know what I'm going to say. The answer is yes.
Because I don't think there is. I'm just posing this as a question.
I'm not sure if this is right.
But it's like the people that
do it or would do it
maybe are not like working
hard enough and have the ability to do it.
Wait, I'm sorry.
So like we, the people
like
a little bit of a paradox of like
we have the ability to to do it but we won't because we work so much but the reason why we
have the ability to do it is because we worked hard and succeeded you know what i mean yeah
but is there a correlation there where it's like you you would do it how hard am i working because
you know what i think i think what we here sometimes? It's all about working hard.
But it's like being always just constant.
It's the constant.
It's not working hard, but it's like always there.
But that goes back to I could just not.
I could just go do it.
But we're the type to worry about our jobs and freak out so that we –
Dave has always been like, it's the star.
It's the star.
It's the glitter.
It's like you get what you put in.
So it's like –
Well, but that's what I was going to say.
I do think that we forget that Dave used to take three months off a year.
I know.
I know.
I know.
Dave used to go to Nantucket for three months a year.
Now he takes 12.
And he really took a full month off.
He would go off.
It was like goodbye.
He would not check in.
I do remind myself of that.
And that was pre-churning.
Barstool hadn't made it.
I'm sure that's something that helped.
What I was going to say earlier about the article
that I always try and remember in the back of my mind.
It's an article about the guy who invented
the Yeezy.
The Yeezy.
You know you've heard of Yeezy.
Oh, the shoe?
Why didn't you just say Kanye?
Because it's the guy who built the shoe.
Okay, I'm sorry.
It's way more difficult than it is today.
I just didn't know what he meant i
i've said that before it was like a device like invented the easy i was like i don't know what
that means it's an alarm clock yeah eric's autobiography is going to be called sorry i
made that difficult that's very fair that's me ordering at a restaurant like pointing to the
thing everything like i made that a little difficult. Oh, Mr. Perfect Brain
Feidelberg over here.
Ivory fucking tower.
Anyway, the easy creator.
What do you say?
But the,
he had taken time off
before he was like,
he had been making shoes
and he was like,
I just got burned out.
I was like,
I gotta get out of here.
And he went
and started working
on motorcycles
just because that was
a passion of his.
And he was working on motorcycles and being so close to the tires all the time inspired him
and that's what made the bottom of the easy shoe and he's like that never would have happened if
i didn't take time right as i knew i was getting tired and knew i was getting worked out yeah to
go try something else and interesting because like we all worked in a creative field like you
get inspiration from anything like it makes sense to go like oh i don't know i could i went to the rainforest for a week
and turns out i want to do something like or even just going to the rainforest we can talk about on
your podcast right like everything everything helps it kind of feeds it but i also think that
like uh you know i i think if dave thought he couldn't take that month off,
he wouldn't.
Right.
Like he was secure enough.
And he was like,
I'm a big enough star.
I'm doing well enough.
The company's doing well enough.
We're good.
Yeah.
You know?
So if you,
and if you have that feeling of like,
and I always have,
I need,
that's what I need to figure out.
It's like,
if I stop,
it'll all go away.
Cause I just feel like there's so,
you know, somebody is always there backfilling.
It's like,
all right,
I listen to that podcast now.
Or I was,
I,
uh,
you know, it was very, it was on a heater right now, internet heater.
He's Kevin Love.
Kevin Love is – The basketball player?
Yes, ripping it up on Instagram.
Funny guy.
Very, very funny.
Nothing amazing, but it's like he's an athlete, so all of a sudden you're like, that's fucking –
That's also just such an internet thing we just did.
Like, you know who's doing great?
You know who's ripping?
Well, I mean, it's not great.
It's not good.
It's like when Blake Griffin was funny for like a couple months oh wait no dude i just saw a clip
of him wait who blake griffin yeah he's no he's funny he was just on we might i was gonna say
he's more yes and he was fucking funny when he was talking about code switching that was funny
yeah yeah exactly he i think kevin love is actually more like blake griffin maybe because
so so i i it was enough that i said it do you think Kevin Love has his own Instagram or does he have a person doing it for him?
Yeah.
And he responded.
And he was like – he said it was him.
And he said people have been telling me you need to put your shit out there.
It was enough that he's funny in real life that people are like, you need to be on the internet.
That to me is like you're actually funny.
You know what I mean?
But I said to him the same thing I've said said you've heard me say it a million times like i'm sick of these fucking athletes and celebrities
who come in steal our goddamn game and it started to start as a joke and now it's very goddamn real
it's like i uh you know i take a month off and kevin love starts his podcast guess who's fucking
listening to kevin love they're not coming back to this kevin they're going with that kevin so
then i you know it's you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube on that one.
So then I just never end up doing anything.
But I think I'll reach a point where just like I said with the tipping point with like working out and whatever.
You know what I will say though is I obviously like I only come in a couple days a week now.
And I usually come in for this and then I go back home.
Clip that.
Clip that. But you know what I will say is like this is the first winter i did not get
like violently sick in a long time and it's because like i usually not violence but i was
always coughing and like yeah yeah and it just didn't happen this winter knock on wood but it
was like and i was like i wonder why and it was like i sleep in a little bit later i take a day
where i just don't go to work i and i used to – I mean, there was a point where it was like KSC Radio,
the Everyday Radio Show, the Kevin Clancy Show, the Mets Podcast.
I was doing like six podcasts.
Three of them were named the Kevin Clancy Show, which is crazy.
It was crazy.
My name was in like three of them.
And then like they all – but I probably would have like kept doing that.
They all kind of like – it's not like I stopped.
I guess we stopped some of them.
But I don't know.
There was always like a reason where I kind of consolidated.
Otherwise, I probably would have just like – they were all successful and nothing ever happened.
I probably would have just kept going like that forever.
And I think I was really like running myself down.
I'm a very – like the ability to recognize that guy and be like, I'm getting tired.
I need to take a step back I think is not ingrained in like, you know,
whether it's Irish Catholic Guild or whatever our generation is or whatever.
I find that hard to just be like, you're not – you can go to work.
But you'd probably be better if you gave yourself a little bit of a break.
That's the real thing is when you realize you're not just being – it's not just lazy.
You're not just taking a day off.
There's a point to it because you regenerate or you get inspired or whatever's something you haven't done that you want to do there has to be something
that you think about like god i still need to go do that has to be nothing i don't know
i'm i'm not you know usually this is i'm not much of a traveler i feel like i'm not really
a bucket list person either i'm not a bucket list person either but i my answer to that is everything
that's like everything
I see I'm like that would be awesome that would be great I'd love to do that I'd love to see that
that would be cool like there's there's actually in in the laguardia maybe it's JFK there's like
they have like little like travel quotes and uh one is like I haven't been everywhere yet but it's
on my bucket list and I fucking love that I'm like I want to see. Why the fuck am I here if I don't want to see it all?
What's the point of being here?
When I'm high at night and the screensaver on my TV is going,
because I just have it on but not watching anything,
I'll take a picture of the thing on the TV and reverse image search it
and make a note of where it is.
Oh, you mean the screensaver is a picture.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because it's like these beautiful scenery and landmarks and stuff.
I was like, I've got to get to Wyoming.
I've got to get to the cliffs of Ireland.
There was a picture.
Really?
Yeah, I was very underwhelmed.
Although I think I'm pretty unique in that because I was talking a long time about it.
And it's just like the Cliffs of Moher to me look a lot like kind of where I grew up.
Like it's just like Newport is very cliffy and shit like that.
And it's not quite as big, but it's... I'm not a views guy like that, so, like Newport is very cliffy and shit like that. And it's not quite as big,
but it's...
I'm not a views guy like that.
So I think a lot of that shit
I'd be like, yeah.
Dude, I've become...
I was driving home,
driving back to New York
Monday morning
and I was like driving
through the mountains
and I was just like...
I've tried to be better
at like recognizing
when something like affects me.
Yeah.
And I was like,
I like that.
Yeah. I'm a views guy. I shouldn't say that i'm not a news guy because i do i do appreciate it like i can be like mountains are unbelievable but but mountains bro dude like like honestly
i was just driving like these mountains are unreal i don't know how everybody doesn't crash
their car like i just stare at these mountains like look how big they are yeah you know i get
that vibe too i get that feeling too.
But maybe it needs to be a little more natural.
When we were on top of that building, I didn't give a fuck about that.
No, the building didn't do it for me either.
Maybe it's got to be more nature.
Yeah.
But even that, I'm like, that was cool.
And then I just kind of like, you know.
Well, maybe you just haven't found the right nature for you.
Maybe, maybe, maybe.
I do want to see the Northern Lights.
Yeah.
Those exist in the same world we're in. It's crazy. Yeah, you can. We live in New York City where we don't see the Northern Lights. Yeah. Those exist in the same world we're in.
It's crazy.
We live in New York City where we don't see the sky ever.
I know.
And then the Northern Lights are a five-hour flight away.
It makes no sense to me that we just don't go.
I know.
I'm with you.
I'll book that right now.
I mean, I'm officially going to Yellowstone.
I sent John a text about going to Minnesota.
I was like, never been to Minnesota.
Experience it all, baby. I've been to Minnesota in July. I was like, never been to Minnesota. Experience at all, baby.
I've been to Minnesota in July.
I was like, I'm in.
There's just so much out there.
I would like to see Minnesota.
Can I come?
July.
It's an OAR concert.
End of July, yeah.
Okay, that's OAR.
It's an OAR festival.
That's OOBO.
It's like Green Day.
I actually just texted my buddy this morning.
About going to that? That's worth going to. I actually just texted my buddy this morning. About going to that?
That's worth going to.
I thought you were just going to go to Minnesota.
I would love to see all the lakes and just, I mean, there's just so much.
Well, that's kind of the thing is like, that kind of shit is everywhere.
You know, it's like.
Hang on real quick.
Sorry.
This fucking festival.
Like, I wasn't a festival guy when we were younger because it was just all like fucking
like EDM and shit like that.
Festivals now. Again, I'm sure it was just all like fucking like EDM and shit like that. Festivals now.
Again, I'm sure it was
they were like this before,
but now I'm paying attention.
It's Hozier,
Alabama Shakes,
Train,
Sheryl Crow,
Father John Misty,
Fall Out Boy,
Weezer,
OAR,
Motion City Soundtrack,
Green Day Sublime,
311,
Garbage,
Semisonic.
Oh my God.
That's right.
Monster fucking.
We made it to when just our music is not like that that's an important thing too like
like i started to learn a jimmy roll hoodie uh in terms of the content world when you know
like life is long where it's like there comes a time where i can like we can tell these stories that
like are now untold stories or forgotten stories that like you know what i mean like i was a podcast
idea untold story well i wanted to i'm thinking about doing a new youtube series that is all the
best or whatever that word is uh well it's more just it's not really single it's more linear in
the sense that like these become Nostalgic stories
But there's new fans
That don't know
Yes
That part
Yeah
I wanted to do
All of the best
Off the field
Sports stories
And like
If in 2012
Or some shit
You were to blog
The Cal Ripken
Kevin Costner
Rumor
Story People would be like Why are you writing that That's like Two years old Five years old Whatever blog the Cal Ripken, Kevin Costner rumor story,
people would be like,
why are you writing that?
That's like two years old,
five years old,
whatever.
Now it's like 10,
15 years old.
People don't know that.
And they would be like,
wait,
what?
Kevin Costner fucked Cal Ripken's wife?
And it's like,
oh,
you have this whole new treasure trove of shit
that is like,
you know,
now fair game again.
Cause it's not just old.
It's now,
you know, it's now fundamental. Yes. not just old. It's now, you know,
Is it fundamental?
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it's like, oh, now I can do all of that.
You know, it's like all these stories that...
Kevin, you crack me up.
This whole thing has been like,
where do you want to go?
Bucket list, what do you want to see?
Yeah, I want to do a YouTube series
about a 2012 CapRibkin story.
That's part of why I get off on that stuff.
And if I'm successful about that stuff, I like that.
The Northern Lights exists.
You want to talk to the camera about Kevin Costner?
But you know what?
I've always felt this way.
Like, I am more about, like, people than I am places.
Yeah.
And I think that's why I do this job.
And, like, you know, even, like, when I was a little kid,
when I was born in New York, moved to Philly,
went back to New York.
So then I had, as a young kid, I had friends from New York and I made friends in Philly.
And when I was gone, I lost friends in New York.
And when I was back, I lost friends in Philly.
And so I became, it was right around AOL type shit.
So it was like early on, it was a lot of chat rooms and buddy lists and like talking like that.
Because that was just how I kept up with my friends.
Yeah, yeah. So from the time I was like, I don't don't know 10 years old i was kind of doing this shit you know
what i mean and i think it kind of shaped like who i was because now i'm i'm much more like
um i you know the amount of like interacting i do on the internet i think would make you sick
but i like doing that yeah i don't know you know that is true i never was like i always make funny
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and sometimes it does make me sick too but it's just like whereas you know i watching you travel
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cool i'm just like i don't know if if it doesn't motivate me to get up and go do it i don't know
if i'm gonna do it you know it's like if I wanted to do it, I would do it.
You should just try it once.
Yeah, I do have to.
It's like gay sex.
Because you try it.
I mean, there is a real thing.
I didn't think I was going to like to think of my answer.
There's a real thing to be said about your brain is fried by the algorithms
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Well, what's crazy is I had drastically cut back,
and it's still a lot.
But, I mean, there was a time, again, doing different shows
and the amount of talking and texting and all that.
It was crazy.
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Did you see what happened when Rhea went to Paris?
No.
People were saying that she spoiled the end of Survivor
because she obviously used the prize money to go to Paris.
I was like, do you fucking...
Or London, not even Paris, London.
Do you fucking people think that...
That almost anybody here can't just buy a ticket to London?
Like if she was there for a month at the penthouse
fucking hotel or whatever, but it's like
she just...
A ticket's like a thousand bucks to go to London.
I think it's like a couple hundred.
What are you guys fucking talking about?
I don't want to be the presenting sponsor of her podcast.
But even beyond that, she definitely could.
But you're an editor here.
You probably could break off some change and go to –
The way Rhea flew to London probably cost a couple grand.
Sure.
You can go to London for $300.
Right, right.
Hop on Spirit Airlines.
Well, I'm flying to – me and Bob Fox are going to Cardiff, Wales July 4th week
because Oasis' first show back, which is just crazy that we're going there.
And first class is like $15,000.
That's crazy. That's not worth it. No, that we're going there. Yeah. And first class is like, you know, 15,000. Yeah.
That's crazy.
That's not worth it.
No, that's not worth it.
But I'm looking, since we have that week off, I'm looking at going somewhere else in Europe first and then going to Wales.
And I was like, shit, I just like fucking spoil the hell out of myself and go to like Greece and get one of those like infinity pools looking over the things.
You know, it's easy to spend another person's money.
But when you're single, don't have kids,
don't have mortgage, all that shit,
you should do that.
Isn't that kind of the depressing part too though?
Yeah, but that's why you do the fun shit to make up for it
if you're depressed by it.
The depressing part is I get all these experiences
or I want to do all these things,
but it's like I want someone to do them with.
Well, that's the ultimate paradox too, though.
It's like, you know, it's always like raising.
That was like the Simpsons.
You can see where Jackie's heart just broke.
No, I'm not ashamed of saying that.
She doesn't need a man to do that, bro.
No, I've gone places by myself.
I'm going to Florida.
We're right next week right now?
Yeah.
I'm in Florida right now.
I'm already there, baby.
That was crazy. I'm waving from the beach right now yeah i'm in florida right now i'm already there that was crazy like i'm waving from the beach right now but yeah it would be cool to like go to greece with somebody but it just
hasn't happened yet yeah but i mean people like a partner is different than the kids too but i feel
like a lot of times you know you end up giving you know your 30s and 40s to like raising kids
and then it's like oh i can go wherever i want now it's like yeah but you're like 50 or 60 years old 50s all right but like if you're old
enough it's like oh i have an empty nest now it's like yeah and you're fucking in your diapers do
you you're dead you talk about like with the kids and stuff like that i always feel like and it might
just be my memory my parents might have a different memory all the good stuff but like i don't feel
like my parents stopped living their lives for us and i'm happy about like, like they were still always traveling and they would not always,
but you know,
they traveled enough and they went to shows and movies and they did things
enough.
Like I knew,
like,
I don't,
I didn't know what in the moment,
but now looking back,
I'm like,
that's awesome.
Then my parents,
mine,
mine,
mine,
mine,
we,
we,
we were pretty poor and like my parents didn't do anything and they still
kind of,
I feel bad for them. Like, I feel like now they're too old to go do stuff yeah and like that's i
keep saying like do stuff but you have i know you have kids but you can take them down well
that's the thing i i think if i was still if we were if i wasn't divorced i think it would
probably be different because it's like now it's like could you do like trips with just them and
like you know go to it's always weird like like we got to get a disney trip like done but like they're getting older i still want them to have like the magic of it and it's like
a lot harder to plan when it's like bringing 15 of us down yeah you're gonna go you're gonna stay
separate it's like a whole fucking thing and then but if we do it together that's a whole fucking
thing so it's like my my experience i think is is probably different than than if you know if
you're one family and it's and you just, yeah, let's all just go together.
It's different than like, well, I have this week off.
You have this week off.
Do you want to come?
It's just a fucking thing.
And that's my main thing with a lot of this, whether it's kids or just the logistics of it all.
It's just like, ah, it's a whole thing.
It's a whole thing.
And I don't like things.
That's why I'm weird about money, too,
is just having to hear about it growing up from my parents
and then just five people sleeping in one hotel.
It's one of those things where you see all the things that you hated
and you just don't want that in your life.
So I'm not nitty with money.
I'll spend $400 at dinner,
but it's just like i i constantly want more i
never want to be in a position yeah it's quite literally like the the least happy way to live
yeah i guess no i'm not plenty of people who do live that way but it is you know it does feel
like it's never enough because if you just keep kind of thank god for bitcoin do you have a number you would you would sell it
immediately oh no no so then what's the see this is why my thing with money it's not fucking real
dude like the other thing the only real money that like i have or anyone has is the paycheck
i get every two weeks everything else is just fucking made up and like no no because if it's part of your net
worth and you need it it's available it's just you want that number to grow and for you know you can
buy a house with it right so like it is but so then why don't you have a number that you would
use like like i'm a i'm a user i like to use the things i buy yeah choose or what or like you know
like money i like to use it i'm like i got it i should use it like
when are you going to use your bitcoin i do think bitcoin's different because the growth potential
is just so much more than just like you know the cash that in your bank account right but that's
what i'm saying what's the number it's not a number it's like okay let's say i want to buy a
house oh yeah i can take a down payment out of bitcoin and buy a house right yeah if i have kids
i can take out you know two percent a year out of that to pay for tuition.
I understand how money works.
I'm just saying.
What number?
I will never sell it.
It's the stage in life.
It's like if I need the money, it's there.
I've taken money out of it to do stuff before.
Okay.
So you have sold.
That's what I mean.
I've taken little pieces out because it's like, oh, what is the point of having a net worth if you're not going to use the money that you have?
Well, like I also – I go – I'm afraid of being like the guy who – like my house renovation has been very bad.
And it's been way more expensive than I thought and like ran into so many more problems.
And I'm like freaking out about that but i'm also like people usually make their money to do to buy the house or to renovate the house you know those
are scary those are the things that you do so i'm like like fuck that i have a gross fear of
especially like i said it ended up not being you know exactly how i thought it was going to be so
i'm like i don't be the guy who ever thought like oh i have so much money and i blew it or i or i'm
the guy you know what i mean like that's don't want to be the guy who ever thought like, oh, I have so much money and I blew it or I'm the guy, you know what I mean? Like that's what I worry about,
not really the money.
It's like,
then I'm like,
what do I?
You worry about being the story?
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And,
and,
but so then,
but then in a literal sense,
I'm like,
all right,
if I just get through this renovation,
then it's like,
okay,
now I have like the house.
I,
even there,
even that,
I don't know.
If I,
if again,
if I had like one,
if I was,
if we were all living there full time, it would probably be differently.
But when I have the kids, this big house and Shay's in this room running around.
Keegan's over here.
The yard is there.
The pool is there.
Especially as they get a little bit older.
I think they'll use all that and it's fun.
But when they're not there, I'm like, I could be in a room this big.
I could have the kitchen there, the bathroom there, my bed here, and my couch here.
And I'd actually like that. Sometimes i hate how like being in an empty house so i'm like
if you know if i didn't have kids and all that i'd probably live in like a regular ass apartment
it's maybe a little bit like fancier yeah you know so it's like but if but if you're what's
the point if you're not doing it for the kids or for the house or those are the big things in life
you know what i mean so but also i was just the big expenses in life i should say part as when you whenever you talk
about kids i always try and think of myself as a kid and and i think like as a kid i always you
just said sorry to clarify why i'm saying all this when you said like you're doing it for the kids
like when i look back as a i'm glad my parents weren't doing things just for me i'm glad that they and again i probably didn't
put it all together as a kid yeah yeah but like as i get older i'm like i'm fucking that's awesome
i mean i'm not like i know what you mean i'm just saying that like you know i think my kids don't
realize right now that like there is a pool that they can swim in yeah hopefully if i raise them
right they'll look back one day i'm like that was cool that we had a pool to they can swim in. Yeah, yeah. Hopefully. If I raise them right, they'll look back one day and be like, that was cool that we had a pool
to grow up in.
Right, right.
And just take everything
for fucking granted.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
But, yeah, I mean,
I don't,
there's not like,
it's not like I stopped going out
because I had kids.
I stopped,
when I had kids
is when I stopped going out.
Like, do you ever have a babysitter?
No, I don't really do that.
See, I always have.
But that's different
because it's like, when I have my kids, I –
They all molested me.
Don't get me wrong.
Every single one of them took advantage of me.
We watched porn together and shit.
But no, I don't know.
I would like to – I think this generation is very weird in that I saw some stat that was, you know,
and these are fucking who knows what these surveys are, but it was some quantifiable
percentage of how much more involved this generation of parents of dads are with their
kids.
And I can absolutely attest to that.
Just like watching the way it works.
Like, and not even that, like our, our dads were bad dads.
They were great dads, but they weren't at practices.
They weren't at everything all the time.
I mean, I see me and the crew of dads are at everything.
We're at the parent-teacher conferences.
We're at the sports.
We're at the dances.
We're at everything, you know?
Bro, I see it with my brother.
He has two kids.
And the generational difference between us, between our parents and his generation of parents, it's so incredibly different.
And, like, this kind of is related to it but kind of not like our parents generation you know they were still coming off their parents who
are the worst generation of parents ever yeah and then our parents kind of like still like hit us
because like that's what they knew from their parents but then we are just like so good to our
kids and so involved in all that.
And it segues kind of with like that generation didn't believe in like therapy and like having feelings and any of that shit. And then our generation just like understands humanity.
If I ever hit my kid.
Dude, I was spanked him even.
I would be.
John, were you?
Was I?
No, I mean I got like whacked a time or two.
But no, I was not like someone.
I was in constant fear. Yeah. hit non-stop really not spanked hit whatever you want to call
it yeah like painfully like not good uh i resent them yeah
the picture that nate has painted of his parents five people i wouldn't say we have a good
relationship kevin i think there's a reason I'm 36 and unmarried.
And they know it.
You fucking know it, man.
It's so tense.
And they know it.
It's unspoken about.
I like to hear it out on podcasts.
That asshole Viva La Stool is clipping this
and sending it to my parents right now.
So, Carmunicate.
I also think that I would have, again,
if I was still married,
when I have the kids is when I'm spending time with the kids.
I'm not going to get a babysitter.
I have a couple days a week to do all that shit, so I do it then.
So when I'm on – that's also what's tough about – if you're a single parent, at least for me, you do everything.
In a way, I almost think it's better.
I'd rather – I do everything.
I'm with them around the clock.
I am their chauffeur.
I am cooking them dinner. I am hanging out with them. I'm am hanging out with them i'm doing the fun stuff i'm doing the homework
i'm doing all that bullshit uh and then and then i'm off you know what i mean and i almost think
that's better to do it than just like one level of like but do you do you ever like so the we
actually kind of talked about it with uh tommy veder which is out monday we're really fucking
we are in a time war right now oh Oh, no, it's already been out.
It was a week ago.
You already heard it.
It came out on Monday.
I just watched it.
See, I'm not good at that.
But I had brought up the article in The Atlantic that I read
was called The Antisocial Century.
It's a very good article, very interesting.
But it's about just basically how humanity has been moving away
from each other since the 60s.
Everyone thinks it's the phone
it was about the car and then the suburb the car built the suburbs and we all started liking our
own space and the racism and it was all like redlining it didn't it's not been healthy like
all that because a line i say that line i like a lot is um families teach us love tribes teach
us loyalty but the village is what teaches us tolerance this is is crazy. This is another note that I wrote down.
I was at Thanksgiving, traveled to my parents' house
from my brother's like an hour or so drive,
and we're just sitting in traffic in D.C.
I'm like, I don't think humans were meant to build these buildings
and travel on these roads.
Like, humans were meant to be in communities
and probably not travel thousands of miles all the time.
It's like none of this is natural to me.
Like, I think it just seems weird to me. But kind of what you're saying, like none of this is natural to me like i think it just it
seems weird to me but kind of what you're saying like there's no community anymore yeah it's like
it just but fallen away from that in that it was talking about how basically in like child rearing
an important aspect of it i guess or childhood as a whole is alone time not alone time but unsupervised time and like not a lot of that these
days that's what it was saying where it was like that it was talking about how the problem is
getting like trickling down to being younger where like it was it was saying that like humans adults
and kids don't really get it anymore which is like hey you two are having conflict you gotta
fucking figure it out like everything doesn't have to be you don't need a mediator for everything like it's a necessary human skill you don't figure it out
but you just like put your head down and kind of get through it right you know it doesn't be
spoken about but you have to sit in it live through it yeah it was about like the different
fucking echo chambers we all have our own individual one and there's basically like
no one has unsupervised time with people that they are in conflict with and you gotta just
fucking figure it out and keep moving forward it's interesting i mean even just the amount of time it's like
my kids are either with me with a teacher with a uh uh coach with a like you know it's very rare
like i actually again when they're with me i try to like spend as much time as i can with them but
i also will be like go play video games by yourself go listen to taylor swift by yourself
because it's like i just want to always be there because I think it's important to be.
Riding bikes is crazy.
Like my kids, we got them a bike.
We got them a set of bikes this past Christmas because I felt like I was like you guys are like eight and nine years old.
You have to have a bike.
They don't really use it.
Really?
Because you can't like they don't just go ride.
I mean I guess like I should ride bikes with them.
Like let's go for a bike ride.
Maybe then we would do it all. But it used to be like we would just go ride bikes I mean, I guess I should ride bikes with them. Let's go for a bike ride. Maybe then we would do it all.
But it used to be like, go.
We would just go ride bikes.
And now I can't.
Is that a foreign concept to you?
We would just go ride bikes.
Yeah, I feel like you guys always talk about being left alone,
just being like, oh, I'll come back for supper.
I never was left alone.
Dude, right now, if I was like, where's Shay?
Where is Shay and Keegan?
I don't know where they are.
And people were like, yeah, they'll be back in six hours.
I'd be like, call the police.
The anxiety of that when we were kids, we would just be home by six.
We would be home.
We'd ride our bike back at 530.
It's just like, it's different now.
But there's no reason for it to be different.
Because technology has consumed us.
But like, child kidnappings aren't up and child molestations aren't up.
But I think the fear of it is all up.
But the fear of it is, but the fucking reality, it isn't.
It's just knowing and hearing the stories and the story.
You don't want the story.
I don't want to be the kid, the guy who has kids kidnapped.
Drop the ball.
You know what I learned?
Okay.
You know how like women have like an obsession with...
True crime.
True crime.
It's because, okay, in this, like the science of rubbernecking or whatever is
evolution wise when we see something we obviously want like need have a need in us to figure out
what happened so we could like go back and tell the tribe like don't don't do this or whatever
and warn them and like women obviously are like always in danger yeah of you know whatever you're
pretty kidnappable they have we're like so
so we're always kind of like what's going on there how'd that person get killed
because evolution wise it's not just we're sick fucks but i mean we are but like also
i can see that logic right yeah that was kind of interesting but it doesn't have to make you horny
okay yeah the fact that you masturbate to it is the problem is that a thing too
chicks yeah oh they just want to fuck all the problem. Is that a thing, too? Chicks? Yeah. Oh, they just want to fuck all the serial killers.
Is that a thing?
It's like the thing.
No, I thought you meant they get horny when listening to the podcast.
I think there is a part of it that...
I don't want to get into it.
I'm not speaking about you personally, but I think some women are...
I don't know about horny, sorry, that was a joke, but like...
Intrigued.
Intrigued and like, I don't know a little more about this kind of deal.
This is so weird that like... Okay, so sometimes no i'm not gonna say it what like when i have
sleep paralysis it's like so scary because like there's demons like coming you know whatever yeah
the only way for me to like beat because because I'm so scared in the moment.
You fuck him?
No, but like, but like the thing.
Oh, that's where she was going.
Well, the thing right next to scared is like horny.
So the only way if I realize I'm like,
I'm like in like a sleep paralysis state
and sometimes I can't like always realize it.
But if I like shift my mindset to horny,
it's so much easier
like that I just fucked away always like just be like that's rudely by these
ghosts Jackie sorry sorry sorry but You have to tell this on the podcast. No, she's told it. She's told it. She did the brutal weasel. Brutally is. It was a new note, though.
No, I thought it was a little sexy.
No, apparently it's brutal.
I want to clarify.
There was only two times I was fucked by the ghost.
But for the most part, they're crawling towards me, whatever.
But now it's like I can take control.
I can take my femininity, whatever.
And now if I just shift it to be like, yeah, come here, babe.
Get over here, you bad boy there there is the argument to like if you know people always say like rape's not a sexual thing it's a power thing like well you take the power back by being like
i'm a fucking dick dude get off your back i'm fucking you dude that's what the power is gone
i was watching like there was like a true documentary, and this guy was, like,
trying to say that he didn't rape this girl.
And he was like, I hardly, like, I didn't even know her.
Like, I hardly knew her.
And I was like, in my head, it was, like, kind of the joke.
It's like, raped her.
Like, I hardly knew her.
So now, now whenever, like, I see, like, some kind of true crime, I go, raped her. I hardly go Rude It's a little inside joke of myself
What is that
What is that original joke
It's like
It's like
It's usually like
Like I'm playing poker
Poker
I barely know
Right
Right
It's actually like a pretty
Like first name basis
Typically type thing
Not even first name basis
That's funny That took a turn brother nowhere. It's actually like a pretty like first name basis typically type thing. Not even first name basis.
That's funny.
That took a turn, brother.
Alright, Mr. fucking dark and brooding all of a sudden can't talk about rape.
Wait, Mr. I didn't hear you. You're like all dark and
brooding. Talking about your parents hate you.
We've all got our stuff, okay?
Honestly, Jackie's got rape
ghosts. You've got your parents.
It wasn't as bad as like the verbal abuse
and like the manipulation
and stuff honestly
but
I can imagine
I can imagine
Mr. and Mrs. Dog
were apparently just
fucking brutal
when you're the third
and they didn't want you
to begin with
it's tough
Jackie's heart's broken
twice now
what else you got
in your notes
oh yeah
let me see
what else I got you got your your notes? Oh, yeah. Let me see.
Let's see what else I got.
You got your House of Horrors over there.
Where's the notes out there?
Let's see.
Do you think it's crazy people work their entire lives?
Do you think that's what life should be?
Like, you drive your kid off at daycare in the morning.
You don't see them all day.
No, yeah. This goes back to what I was talking about before.
There are people who are just like, I live in a hut on the beach and i bartend and i surf
and life's incredible it's the old that old man proverb you know like there is all yes completely
agree just work for the man then you die and that's life but then you think about like percentage wise
the people who live in a hut by the beach it's like zero they're not all loving it
that ties into the grass is always
greener it's like right yeah i wish i had a house and a 401k and a family you wish that you had
freedom to surf all day yeah it's forever the whole concept of you know it goes back to like
whatever the work week monday to friday nine to five now with technology it's never ending work
week and you know first thing people do in the morning, check their emails.
Last thing, close their laptop, check their emails.
Society's just built around working for, you know, these bazillionaires,
and nothing trickles down, et cetera, et cetera.
Do you think that's normal?
It should be normalized?
And, like, is that what society should be?
I mean, it was probably worse back in the day, right?
It was, like like manual labor for 18
hours instead of dicking around on your computer yeah but like i understand everybody needs a job
and like society has to continue but does do you ever just like think about the whole concept of
like what society is yeah no i get that i i also feel though like you know you mentioned like you
send your kid to a nanny all day because you go to work it's like but it used to just be like
the mom this half of the gender takes care of that and this half of the gender takes care of this.
And now we're kind of all stuck in the middle where it's like we all work and all have to do all the shit too.
Well, that goes back to should two parents have to work to provide for a household?
Probably not, I would say.
No.
Yeah.
I mean that – something – there was an inflection point whether whether it's an inflation or i don't know what but it was
like you know my dad i think was making like 90 grand and it was like it's not inflation
not inflation is just such a catch-all buzzword it's not inflation but i think it's like inflation
like the housing market maybe it's like a specific thing where it's just like houses used to cost you
know it's manipulation by rich people to keep us poor it's billionaire yeah it's
manipulation i'm the biggest anti-fucking billionaire in the world and you want to know why
dave portnoy he's not a billionaire nope doesn't care about money anymore you don't need
and you have 400 billion yeah yeah dave has according to him and and through his words and
his actions unlimited money
unlimited
he has said expressly
publicly and privately
to Barstool Sports
does not care about
making a dollar
from Barstool Sports
Dave is not a single billionaire
yeah
he doesn't like
then why does someone
have 400 billion
it's crazy
it's crazy
right I mean
you'd have
you know Dave has to be like
five times his
entire existence to get – I think he's
running a couple hundred million.
Right.
It's like multiply everything Dave did and all the money he has by five.
That's crazy.
And then you get to one four hundredth of Elon Musk.
Right?
He has like 400 billion right now.
Dave honestly like completely changed.
I was always like, yeah.
But I don't think that's – do you think that's why like – like something happened
with housing where it's like we're just going to charge –
They have all the money and they have all the power to keep us poor, to keep us working 40 hours, 60 hours a week to keep them rich and to keep us scared from going to live on the beach in the hut.
It's all connected.
Yeah, I get that.
I get that.
I do understand everything you're saying.
But I also just think there is something direct of like your salary in comparison to your housing, I think is just way out of whack.
Yeah.
I see that chart.
It used to be like, yeah, I mean, you made 90 and the down payment I needed to put was like 40 or something like that.
And now it's like you make like 120 and you need to put down like 600.
Something happened there.
I don't know what it was.
Blackrock bought all the houses. Or the 2008 crisis was housing mortgage related.
Something happened there where it's just like it's impossible to get a fucking home.
That's a big problem.
That's a big problem.
That's a real fucking problem to be like I can't get a house.
I mean they're so good at controlling us.
Like you need a job or you won't be able to buy this house.
It's just like it's all manipulated
it's all manipulated against you and i mean there's a reason they don't like teach you in
school about basic finance because they don't want you to be able to do it they don't want you to be
able to make money you really think that there's like a concerted effort to keep people down like
teachers or not yes but on like a day-to-day basis i don't think so yeah of course there is
i don't i don't think i don't think your. Of course there is. I don't think there are a lot of educational boards.
No, no, no.
Like the society as a whole is governed to keep people in line and to keep poor people poor and make rich people richer.
And they don't want poor people coming into the rich.
That I understand.
People do break through, of course.
But I don't think your day-to-day is like reflecting that all the time.
Of course.
I know you're saying, but it's like –
I guess I've seen both sides where I don't think there is some –
Shadowy overlord board keeping us down.
The longer you live, the more you start to realize things don't happen like that.
It's just more like a person in power, you get the gist that they like things one way.
Yeah.
So you do it that way.
And then so that person, the person who's below you,
sees that you like it that way, so they do it that way.
I'm telling you, between that and the algorithm,
we're just becoming a homogenous fucking race.
No one's going to have any sexual organs, no gender, no nothing,
and we'll all just be the same preferences, same taste, same everything.
We're all just going to be like bald-headed aliens
who think the same fucking thing.
And we'll be fine.
Yeah, that'll just be the new normal.
You'll be fucking fine.
It'll just be the new normal.
Because that'll be what you're used to.
We'll be fucking fine.
I don't understand, though, like Dave talking about those meme coins.
Oh, God.
But you really could.
Once you have a certain amount of money and influence with the internet, I feel like your whole life becomes insider trading.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
If Dave were to just pick a sponsor and be like, okay, we're partnering with you.
And tomorrow I'm just going to talk about you and say that I use your shit, it's going to go up.
That's why advertising and why Barstool does well, they come for that.
And it happens naturally with us.
But when you hit that level, you can just manipulate that shit it's like legal insider
trading uh question how do you feel about advertising like towards kids like i i was
thinking about this when i was home for thanksgiving and it's just like they're four and two and a half
i'm like i can't believe they're allowed to advertise at kids like toys and chilling any
yeah toys and especially fast
food and candy and stuff i i never thought about it till i was with them and i was like
oh i don't like this at all it's probably immoral but i'm like i don't know that's just the way the
life goes i didn't know anything about all the commercials from my childhood like i want that
board game i want that remote control car i know that personally affected you because i saw it in
real life i was like oh i don't like this yeah i mean i definitely don't like you know like like when you start they start watching the internet and
they're like watching like appropriate things on youtube but then all of a sudden you catch a
pre-roll for like something political yeah or some like medication or uh some of the like influencers
are like girls that are clearly like they have like an only fans or something like that they're
like check out my like other page and i'm like that was weird yeah that sort of shit starts to blend
but it's like i don't know it's probably always been you know do you let your kids watch tv or
do you let them yeah no ride their bikes alone or whatever it will affect them they will be a
little different right it's just the world keeps going yeah yeah you can't worry about it's like
how we rode bikes like kids now go and like oh oh, you won't believe what I found on YouTube. And they like go like sneaky watch something.
Probably.
There was like a one kid show that like was telling kids to kill their parents.
And then a bunch of kids were like, hey, by the way, like I'm supposed to kill you.
And they were like, what were you watching?
And then they figured it was like if you don't kill your parents, you're going to get killed.
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This is a total shift in gears.
I saw this guy, his theory on this DeepSeek stuff was, so DeepSeek is the new AI.
They are claiming that they did it without NVIDIA chips.
Liars.
And because there's a trade embargo where you cannot, Chinese countries cannot buy these U.S. microchips.
And his, so he was saying that it's because China wants to invade Taiwan.
And by saying they got their chips elsewhere, it would make people less sympathetic to Taiwan.
So all of this is just one big china's
trying to invade taiwan and and like and i just i was watching him he's like ex-military he seems
very smart he knows about technology and all that but he had like you know his computer set up and i
was just like what what a way to live like i can't even imagine just be like this is new ai and they
say they don't use chips it's like it's because they're trying to take taiwan it's just so crazy
man i mean you can like you were saying before you can connect all these
dots and i'm sure a lot of these things are true but it's like god this is it's just a terrible
way to live where everything is that somebody sent me a video going here this explains it all
and i was like oh okay like i want to learn about the microchips and like the trade embargo and it's
like no it's not no i want it less appealing dante the don with the best yeah the
don i mean dante i'm trying to find i sent it to you in a text um just i'm every day he has a new
favorite tweet of his that i love um i'm pulling it up right now it's a quote tweet from dante my
phone is so slow okay it's a he quote tweets former chicago mayor laurie lightfoot presents the final report
on allegations of financial mismanagement by the mayor and others and it's a picture of like
the mayor giving like this presentation dante the don just finished a long day driving to ohio and
can't wait to read all about this like that's how he unwinds. And he'll read three headlines. Yeah. He unwinds by just reading the financial allegations of America.
Dude, I oddly used to think of Dante, and I always clarify this when I love Dante.
But I used to think of him as an informed guy.
And I remember when he asked to come on this show to talk about, I think it was the Boeing killings or whatever.
Or maybe we asked him.
I don't know which order it went in.
But he came on this show to talk about that.
I had read one article.
And he was like, well, I didn't know you did your research for this.
I read like 400 words.
I read one article on a topic we said we were going to talk about.
That's what I did.
He's all fired up about that Scorsese and DiCaprio movie.
See that?
Yeah, yeah. It's the wrongest he's ever been. Why DiCaprio movie. See that? Yeah, yeah.
It's the wrongest he's ever been.
Why?
Just to be excited for it?
No, no, no.
Just like his like –
Finally movies are movies again.
Oh, no, no.
But my point, you know, that is just because it's in Chicago.
That's it.
He said that as well.
He said that as well.
That's all he cares about.
And it's not just him.
It's Chicago in general.
It's like if you told me that there was some book about a serial killer in New York being
optioned into a movie, I would not give a fuck that it takes place in New York.
It is a very popular and very good book.
That's fine.
But if that was set in New York and not Chicago, Dante would not be talking about that.
Of course not.
Yes, I agree with you on that.
And that's what drives me crazy. It's probably a great book and it's gonna be
awesome if DiCaprio's a serial killer and Scorsese's directing it I'm sure this is all true
it's just the motivation behind it I was like oh what is this and then I read Chicago serial killer
I'm like but he had a he uh I forget the guy's name but there are he's I think the most prolific
serial killer in American history so much so that there are rumors that I don't believe that he's Jack, it's Jack the Ripper.
He moved here.
And he was like-
I read that they call this house the murder mansion.
It's a murder, it was a murder hotel.
He would rent, I don't know what they might have called it, a murder mansion, but he was
running a hotel that had like, he would dissolve bodies in it.
Yeah, it had like laboratories and shit.
It was like, it was 1892 in Chicago.
How many people do they think he killed?
I don't think they have a number.
It's like hundreds.
There's just no way to tell in that era.
Back then, everybody was killing.
It was at the World's Chicago Fair in 1892
where the Ferris wheel was invented
because they had to compete with the World's Fair before that,
which was in Paris when they made the Eiffel Tower.
They were like, we got to do something crazy.
But he was dissolving bodies.
He was doing men and women, I believe, if I remember correctly,
but he just murdered everyone.
A little twist, usually.
Yeah, not what you usually see in film.
One or the other, yeah.
I sent a tweet of his to Jeff D. Lowe, just to rile Jeff D. Lowe up,
because Dante's like, finally a non-woke, nonaction or superhero movie 100 emoji 100 emoji and jeff d lowe gets on angela only 0.2 movie of
percent of movies this year i think you could also make the argument like i thought i think
it's getting a little silly it's like it's gabriel and scorsese you're doing it again i don't know
that feels like a trope to me now you know what i mean i never what do you mean like those two just
teaming up for another i've still never seen once upon a
time in hollywood oh that's great i've still like just it's never i've never watched it yet i need
to do that but the the i want to say one thing for you the the thing with people with because
i consume a lot of movies it just say the least infuriates me to no end the way people talk about
them was like well you don't see movies yeah like you just
fucking read the headlines and you're like oh like another superhero movie it most movies aren't
superhero movies most movies aren't cgi things movies are fucking awesome movies there's so many
people just don't consume it's the same like advertising budget the nominated ones are all
like just go watch those it's like it's i think it's partly internet where it's just like everyone has to share their opinion on everything that we don't know what we're talking about.
Even things like the biased news sources.
Do you read them?
Right, right.
It's headlines.
If you read it –
You live in a headline world.
It's not really –
You live in a headline world.
You can tell what they think, but they're not like overt things.
You're like, oh, this guy thinks – like when I read a CNN article or a New York
Times article, like, oh, this guy's a little more right-leaning.
Oh, this guy's a little more left-leaning.
But when you fucking read it, you can figure it out.
It's not like one whole goddamn conglomerate thing.
Like, you have a top-down order of like, you have to speak this way.
Now, I think if somebody was, if there was like Hollywood budgets, like the reason why
like the mid-level comedy
is no longer around
because people are doing
either indie films
or like if there was
like a discussion about it
yeah yeah yeah
a reason
or an effect
cause and effect
sort of thing
like then fine
but to just be like
but even then
most of the people
who complain that
like comedies don't get made
you don't see them anyway
right right
it's like
the reason they don't
is because people
you aren't going to
fucking watch them
that's the issue
they are getting made
I go see them
did you see De Niro's movie where he plays both gangsters?
I've heard of it, but I don't know.
To me, I'm like, there's got to be some younger guy who can play the fucking gangsters.
De Niro again, and he plays both?
Yeah, but De Niro's fucking awesome.
I know.
He's great.
He's great.
Like Kill is a Flower Moon?
De Niro was fucking unreal.
Oh, I hated that movie.
No! He was so good. Iiro was fucking unreal I hated that movie but I no
he was so good
I thought Leo
I loved that movie
I thought Leo was so good
yeah I mean
they're great actors
but it's just
at some point
you have to have new ones
yeah
but there's plenty of new ones
they're making new ones
yeah yeah
but like
specifically
like the mob era
you know what I mean
do we have young mobsters?
I think that genre is going to go out with him and those guys.
And probably should.
I don't really like them, but I'm just saying I'd like to see somebody else try.
Yeah.
Who was in The Departed?
Get anybody from that?
Man, I was watching.
It was like a Chiefs meme, and it was like the Bills.
No, it was the Chiefs being like, just fucking kill me.
Just fucking kill me.
And DiCaprio is the Bills.
And then they open the door, and the guy's the refs,
and he shoots the Bills, and the Chiefs win.
The big game is in a couple days.
Bro, DiCaprio getting his head popped is one of the all-time, like, holy shit.
It happens just so quick. They don't, like, sugar yeah it's just so quick they don't they don't like
sugarcoat it or tease it or slow mode i like that you're an instagram comment
well i'm not really so that's what i noticed is like if you put a comment people are liking it
so now it's always in my feed i don't know so that was interesting oh this happens when you
comment a lot on instagram i guess funny just leaving comments like just like boner 420 i'll comment very rarely but like comment on like tommy smokes i feel bad
hell yeah i don't even i'm starting to like things i use like i use instagram to like make videos and
post videos and think of it like that and then i was like oh i'm never like giving people likes
or comments or love and like i want those in return yeah i want people to do it for me so i i gotta i basically only like
i don't know i don't i don't watch i just like but you like everything yeah because everything
i watch it says like by feidelberg if i know i'm gonna keep my like my likes are gonna be if you
got a like from me you fucking you earned it yeah my mind is if i know you i like yeah yeah there's
like for sure an unspoken girl currency
oh you guys don't like
each other's shit
no no
well I don't like things
but in terms of commenting
like if you want comments
you gotta
oh it's
you gotta
cash out
you have to hit them
with like a slay girl
slay girl
and then you get
the slay girls from them
that is
the most transparent
thing in the world
and I understand
why you guys do it
and great you have a system
but I just it is like oh okay like you posted like a thirst trap and it's
gonna be fire emoji slay girl yeah like so hot oh my god and you know that that bitch hates your guts
or talk shit about you or whatever and she's caps lock oh my god queen and she throws her phone like
fuck that girl because you'll get it back in return what a system you guys got
it's a good system it's pretty much like it's like you put it are you checking to see who
doesn't hit you with a yas queen like oh samantha didn't hit me with a slay for sure i will i will
certainly be like i'm not going to comment on this because i don't think that she's ever commented
on mine but if you like if you and you can't be if you are commenting on mine then i'll be like
oh my god we return the favor how often are you commenting that you think somebody's hot when you don't think they're actually hot?
That's not true.
I will reserve it.
I don't want to lose my credibility and be like, if you're not looking good, I'm not going to say.
And I'm not big on commenting or liking photos, which is crazy.
I get in trouble with a lot of people for not liking.
I'm always like, nobody's going to notice if I don't like this photo they know I get they notice if you know guys to
ever looked at stuff I think I know I said this last show but there was something oh is it debate
me it was if you ever said that you should kill yourself if you've like checked that stuff I think
you should kill yourself too yeah do you guys ever check I think I've asked this before who
watches your story that I'll tell you you should 1000% kill yourself. Is that?
We both went.
Because I'm
deeply troubled.
Because of his parents.
I mean,
you do that? You look through your views?
Oh, yeah.
I mean, you get a decent amount of views, bro.
You gotta be sifting through.
I waste a lot of time.
I understand when it's like 20 views.
It's like, oh, my boyfriend didn't look at it.
If they would give you a search feature so you can type in the people that you want to look at it.
They don't do a search feature.
You get to scroll.
Exactly.
It would save me a lot of time if I could just type in.
They want you on their app for as long as possible.
No, but they're being petty.
But what are you both looking for?
To what end do you want to see?
A validation of certain people looking at your story.
I can understand if it's like I...
But no one's like seeking out your story.
Even if they saw it, it just happened to be like the next story that popped up.
People purposely will or will not look at your story,
and you want certain people to look at your story.
Yes, you do want certain people.
I get it if you're like, I like this this boy and i want to see if he's looking on
my thirst trap i can understand that if you're just like searching for i get that for for like
regular people i don't get that for people who have followings of your size crazy first of all
i don't have a big following you do it's thousands of people it's way like if you're 300 people first
of all if you're watching please follow me on instagram I have not gone up. This is not a joke.
In, I think, two and a half, three years.
Oh, I only go down.
The exact.
I only go down on Twitter.
Exclusively go down on Twitter.
Instagram has not.
It's been 13.5 for literally three years.
I love my 13.5.
I'm not that too, though.
My videos are growing, but my following.
They literally just push and pull levers.
Give you followers, take away followers.
Every time.
I probably wouldn't follow.
I take pictures of raw fish and just like that's about it.
That should be your angle, man.
Raw fish food guy.
I'm so boring.
You're not going to get any fucking views.
But wait, so even if you post and there's even like a few hundred people, a thousand people that watch your video, that's a lot to sift through.
Yeah.
And it makes you feel that good?
No, it makes you feel terrible, John, because usually they don't look at it.
So stop looking.
But what if they do?
I only look at like who watches my stories.
And it filters everyone who you know, like your mutual followers at the top.
But that's another interesting thing is sometimes I'll see somebody at the top of my list.
And like you know that there's – because of the algorithm, it like filters of people at the top who if you like look at their profile more often.
So you can do the math and say, I haven't looked at this person's profile in a bit and they've been at the top of my list.
So it's actually math, like girl math or whatever in your head.
Yeah, this is girl math.
They can crack the code.
This is affecting me as much as Tommy Smokes talking about his chat GPT thing affecting me.
They're like,
I look at you differently.
Yeah,
yeah,
yeah.
Yeah,
no,
it's crazy.
You know,
we didn't get to do this
on the show.
Tommy keeps a list.
Oh my God.
We can talk about
all the people
who shower in his apartment.
Not just who have
been to his apartment,
but then he has a subset
that says shower.
Tommy has so many
autistic lists,
it'll blow your mind.
He keeps a diary of every single day of his life.
He scrolls through his notes and it's like list on list on list.
This is fucking insane.
No, he's a nut.
That guy.
We're very lucky he does not have a taste or thirst for blood.
Because he would for sure be a serial killer.
For sure.
Odd bird.
Real odd bird.
Last week, he liked Diet Coke finally.
That was a big day.
Oh, finally hit?
Yeah.
What else happened last week?
Oh, the second episode of Roan Show was yesterday.
The Super Bowl is in a couple days.
Anything else?
Oh, I made a video of...
Oh, the Booze Ponies won the dozen.
Oh!
Let's go!
Yeah!
Yeah!
Are you losing a teammate or no?
I don't know.
I have no idea.
I don't think so.
If he wants to, I bet he'd be allowed to.
I've heard...
Dave said they were talking about doing some things together,
so I'd imagine the dozen is still...
I've heard about 80% he will remain.
I think it's probably up to him, right?
I think we...
I don't know.
I think it's...
But I'm saying if he doesn't want to, then he's gone.
I think Dave and Will...
Again, I haven't spoken to either of them,
so everything I hear is just hearsay.
Well, maybe you did a couple days ago.
I think they both want it to happen.
I think it's up to advertisers.
Oh, Vandal Drakengard.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That makes sense.
I made a video.
I did an instant reaction to all the new members of Love is Blind.
Yeah.
Yeah, totally watched that one.
They loved that, by the way. They did? Yeah. Okay okay i mean people people people in the lib community really did love it
but one of the guys i mean i just you know trashed everybody it was instant reaction it's like just a
gut shot reaction saying shit that makes no sense and uh this this guy benji uh like clapped back
and made a video being like just video just making fun back on me.
I'm going to like that guy.
His name is Benji. That's ridiculous.
You're a grown man. You can't be Benji.
Ben is right there. Just be Ben.
He was like, I'm sorry. I want to maintain
a little bit of my childhood innocence.
He went back and forth. It was funny.
As of right now,
I'm team Benji.
That's another thing that didn't make my list but it almost did. He went back and forth with me. It was funny. So as of right now, I'm team Benji. I need to catch up on that.
That's another thing that didn't make my list, but it almost did.
Names are so wild.
They're just people walking around named Paul and Gary.
It's like, oh, little baby Paul.
I'm always fascinated by what makes a name and what goes in style and out of style and shit.
I'm thinking of guys with nerdy names.
Like did they like hearing their name said in bed? What's a nerdy name?
Like, I think Gary is, I think.
Rupert.
Rupert.
Ain't nobody getting named Rupert.
Gary's gone.
Is that going to turn you on if I say your name in bed?
I don't think I've ever been, I'm sure I have.
I don't think I've ever been called my name in bed
Yeah that's another thing too
When people are like oh you said the wrong name in bed
I'm like you say people's name in bed
Yeah I don't
It's so weird
Yeah John
Rupert is for sure
There's no way this is going to be
I'm pretending I'm someone else
So I recommend you do the same
um i do we'll wrap up but i really do want to talk about car communicate
communicate is i've had this idea too before like wait what what does that mean uh go ahead jackie
the floor is yours sharks but okay pretty much just it's a car to car communication
it's okay first of all like i've
talked about girls who code none of you guys have really given me the reaction that i want from that
what is it i don't girls who code when i did that for a summer girls who code oh yeah coding camp
you went to coding camp i went to i also forgot to mention like i it was an application process
in like two percent of people who applied got it he's a stem girl okay it's not big deal, but like you guys clearly don't understand how hard it was to get in there.
And then I was there.
Your parents had to write a big check.
9 to 5, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, over the summer.
Whatever.
Anyways, at the end of it, we had to make an app.
So I created Carmunicate, which is a car-to-car communication system where you basically use their license plate as a phone number.
And it's an app.
And then you can like, so if somebody cuts you off no if somebody's that's about it so his taillight is off then
you can say hey just so you know your taillight's out you left your gas tank you left your gas tank
open like let's say you hit you scrape them in the parking lot you say hey sorry like here's my
information blah blah blah you see somebody cute. Again, it's probably quickly
going to turn into
some kind of like...
The problem is the murdering
and the killing
and the kidnapping.
That is always the problem.
It's always, though,
the murdering and the killing.
It's like if we always stop stuff
because of the murdering
and the killing...
It would have meant nothing.
It would have meant nothing.
So...
It would have meant nothing.
Think about, you know,
taxi cabs and Uber.
People are like,
I'm going to get in the back car
of a stranger
it's like yeah you do
if we stop that
and do they get murdered
and killed sometimes
yeah they do
gotta crack a few eggs
but sometimes
gotta crack a few eggs
to make an omelette
you have to crack a few eggs
to make an omelette
I'm with Carmunicate
like even just like
even like a
I mean they kind of
have it on planes
you can communicate
with like seat mates
yeah it's a little bit
like that
what I want is a little bit
like I'm like
like I'm gonna be in so much trouble with my ex-wife if i'm late can you please let me go
you know what i mean like my thought this is yours is a more uh you know technologically
advanced situation i wanted something where you have like five a year that's like a horn sound
or a light or something that means like hook me up yeah you're gonna lose it five times a year that's like a horn sound or a light or something that means like hook me up yeah you
can use it five times a year so if you want to be an asshole like i'm late to the movies you can use
your pregnancy rush to the hospital thing but when your wife's going to labor you're like i used all
my five yeah i'm sorry you know what i mean so you gotta use them you gotta use them wisely but
just even a little something like the siren like a police siren right yeah that you can only use
it only pops up in certain events. Press the special button.
You got to turn the key at the same time.
Whatever it is to make it special.
But just some sort of, you know, get the fuck out of my way or like whatever.
Stop rubbernecking.
Yeah.
Something like that.
People are dying back here.
Communicate.
Yeah, right?
It's like there's so many uses for it.
Kidnapping.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But also you could probably reject things or whatever.
I really should have like – I shouldn't even be – it's like always like I shouldn't be giving people my million,
million dollar ideas.
You could do it.
Ford, DM KFC Radio.
We'll talk.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
Good stuff.
All good?
You want to bash your pants a little more?
I've got two more things.
One, John gave a great TV recommendation.
Have you talked about it?
Last week with Ron.
We have talked about it.
Oh, you did talk about it?
So you've already talked.
Okay, good.
Great show.
Thank you.
Well, to add something to this.
Last week with Ron, we discussed.
There's layers to this.
I got a little cocky.
I didn't fully flesh this out last week with Rowan
There's two things you don't do in life
You don't give Dave Portnoy a bet
I gave him a TV recommendation
He recommended Paradise to Dave
You texted Dave?
Unsolicited
It's not like that
Dave likes TV
Dave and I do not talk a lot
By any stretch
But when we do we talk about it
it's not totally crazy
I was like yo
I don't think it's a show he'd like
so to be like yo check this out
it's not
but Dave is a nerd too
reply or no
no well I texted him
he's debating whether he should undo
his recommendation no be like hey the pilot was great episodes two and three not so much but i
did i was clear i was like i've only seen episode one episode one was really great i said i stand
by this episode one was one of like the more captivating pilots i've seen in a while in
episodes two and three i started to be like two i liked them both you want to know what i haven't
watched three yet. Okay.
So in episode three, there is a storyline that made me go.
It's not even a storyline.
It's more of like an interaction.
But it made me go.
This might be more like NBC drama.
They were playing Wii tennis.
That was so stupid.
So stupid.
But that was like a lie or that was real.
Well, I was talking to Ken Jack about that.
They were fucking and they.
Ken Jack was like, I thought that was supposed to be.
I read it as
We were
All the viewers were thinking
They've been fucking
Yeah
And then they were honestly like
We were actually playing Wii Tennis
They held hands at that one point
I missed that then
I think that was a cover up story
But either
Either way
Regardless that felt like
Corny
Even just the Wii doesn't make sense
Why do you have a Wii
Right
Like at first I was like
Oh I guess it's because
the world ended
and they were all rushing
to grab whatever they could.
But you have much more access
to a PS5 or an Xbox
than you do a Wii.
Like, you grab an Xbox
and the Wii is kind of weird.
I'm like, why the fuck
was it like...
And I think it's just...
It comes into play later.
Maybe.
But I also think it's just
kind of supposed to be like,
it's funny.
It's a Wii.
We're not playing
what you thought we were playing.
We're playing Wii.
Because I even go to like... She's like, we were playing Wii. And he's playing we're playing we because i even go like she's like we were playing we and he's
like it was we tennis actually yeah yeah what the fuck's the wheat that was a little bit corny
and so that made me go like this might be more like an nbc drama than like whoa this is
groundbreaking streaming kind of deal because after the first episode i was like this is great
like it's great the first episode's fucking great but imagine if you do if you if you throw out an
unsolicited recommendation
For a show
That is like
I've done it
Today
I've done it
No but like
I was so obsessed with Severance
I texted
Cause I
That's a good rec though
No reply
No reply
And he's never tweeted about it
So I assume he didn't watch it
But now
But he has tweeted about most things
Wait you're saying
The recommendation was Severance
Yeah
Oh yeah
I'm saying
What if you
What if you give the recommendation
And it turns out to be like
Less than like the blacklist
Yeah
Like something that's even
That's the exact show
I started to think
This might be like the blacklist
Yeah
Which I love
But I would not recommend it
But I would not show that you go
Yo dude
Yeah
To anybody
I will say
After episode one
I
He
Like
John was saying
He was like stopping strangers in New York
Shaking them down
Have you seen the show
Yeah
It was awesome
It was really good
I was high.
I was fucking.
And what also fucked me is the fact that episode one came out.
When I texted him that, the only episode that was out was episode one.
Episode one was out on Monday.
And then on Tuesday, they dropped two more.
So by the time I was recommending it to everyone, they were like, Nate was the one who told me.
He's like, have you seen two and three?
I said, no, they weren't out.
It was completely, you know, Hulu, a new show starts.
A completely new show started.
I knew there wasn't a next episode.
He was so excited about it.
I told Hubs I had a dentist appointment.
I went to a side room and just watched.
Yeah, he was gassed up.
He was like, you have to watch.
Just right up your alley.
And I was like, nailed it.
You know what's so funny is like, I feel like last week with Rome,
when we were talking about like made men are more scared of Dave.
And like, I feel like because of you you guys like I'm so scared of Dave
but like the other girls
like
oh you go like
painting them
yeah I'm like
oh you guys were
I was raised different
like
yeah
I'm like
we don't talk about Dave
like that in our house
I'm such like
that's so true
but you know
you were raised right
yeah
I think it was Megan making money.
It was like,
we were talking about being scared or sending a text.
Oh, I just FaceTimed.
I threw my phone.
That's literally when
I thought about it last week.
That sounds like a great episode.
I told that story.
It was me and Wonton Don.
Sidney was like, I just FaceTimed him.
You told DP? Yeah, I just FaceTimed him. You told DP?
Yeah, I just FaceTimed him.
I was like, you are a fucking maniac, dude.
Maniac.
Because I also, like, when I started, I remember sending – it was more email back then.
But I would send, like – I remember one time he posted – it was when he used to post the jockey picture.
And I was like, man,'s like such a funny picture like and i was kind of giving props being like that that's it's funny how you like you post a funny picture of yourself kind of on purpose because it was a
promo picture a promo post yeah this blog is not going to get a lot of traction but i'm going to
put like a goofy picture of myself and i was just kind of like talking shop with him a little bit
you know and i just remember getting like a very blah response being
and i was kind of like oh he doesn't do this yeah and then so i don't do that anymore but these other
people just keep doing that with him i think if you never had to email with dave yeah because like
i'm fine obviously with the way dave and i communicate it was just like he was so clear
early on with how he likes to be communicated with right and like so then i was like be it like
you know he'd send you an email and there would be no email in the body it would just be a subject
he's like i'm not we're not saying much here we're just here's what you need to know just tell me
what i need to know yeah and i actually i completely respect and like it's almost like a boundary set
and like but these other people sound like they don't they never got they were never an email
communicator with them so they never understood the boundary.
And they're like, yeah, you just FaceTime people.
And it's like, no.
No, dude.
No, you do not.
But I also think if you talk to Dave, he'd be like, yeah, I don't know.
You can FaceTime me whenever you want.
It's like, no, no.
You would say that, but no.
You know that that's not the case.
Fuck off.
I have to text him every Sunday to see if he wants to do the rundown on Monday.
And it's just like blue.
Just straight down.
Rundown question mark.
I really like that. That's very fun though.
I was raised different.
We don't talk about that in my house.
That's really good.
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Oh, and then my other thing.
I was telling this.
We can end on this.
I was telling Jackie this yesterday.
Me and Tommy Smokes, we decided that, and I want to say it to the audience.
This is what we're doing.
2025, if you're in a bar, you know, you're out, and you say, hey, I think that girl's hot.
You have to go talk to her that's the new rule because his his soy boy beta generation they just stare at their
phones and it's all about you know like tinder or whatever and then i'm just old and and single i
was gonna say you're gonna like that's not gonna work yeah because i'm disgusting dude yeah no no
i just mean like in general it's dead no you got it i'm like talking to girls in general is dead
is that what you're saying?
Yep.
Then why go to a bar?
I don't know.
I go to hang out.
Honestly, I go to like. We used to go to try your lady.
Hang out with homies.
Like, yeah.
Well, yeah.
No, I'm.
In my bar going, if I want to talk to a person, I usually talk to them, but I just never want
to talk to them.
But like.
If I want to talk to someone.
You actually article every day.
Going up to a girl with the intent of like, I'm flirting with you to get your number,
try to fuck you, try to hang out with you, try to be your girlfriend, is different though
than like, I'll talk to a bartender, I'll talk to a guy.
But going up and being like, hello, I am here to hit on you.
Are you receptive of that?
I think the scariest thing in the world that a regular person can do.
Here's the hint.
The icebreaker, and I've yet to do it.
The icebreaker is, me and my friend made a rule that if we think a girl in a bar is hot,
we have to talk to them. Perfect icebreaker. Say say pretty don't say hot yeah uh bonable is that better
i want to put it in i've i this isn't just for for women but i i've been trying to work on
not necessarily my small talk but just like talking to people a question i've asked that had unbelievable returns i just go so what's your thing
leave it open they're like what do you mean i'm like i don't know like what's your thing
did you know he invented tinder by the way you do know that how many push-ups can you do
saturdays for the boys and tinder like you invented both of them you imagine like the
modern world i remember being in my cube job you know how many years ago this one 2012 whatever it
was and tinder i learned a tinder from barstool and the girl sat across from me i like we were
like the only three people on it in new y City I guess I would see her all the time
and I was like you're on that?
She's like why do people keep asking me how many questions I have?
Yeah guys are the part where people go I like Barstool too
I mean we should probably own like half of Tinder
I think Uber too
I think we once got Uber so many signups
they thought that we were like cheating the system
I was like no we just told them we were going to use Uber
Dave invented his watch company
because we made movement watches $50 billion
It's crazy We should have just had equity If you think about all those companies in the beginning Dave invented his watch company because we made movement watches $50 billion.
It's crazy.
We should have just had equity.
If you think about all those companies in the beginning, if we just did a Facebook thing where it was like instead of that $1,000, we own 1% of your company, they would have done it.
Well, Dave wouldn't sit one meeting.
It worked out for him.
But what's your thing?
I always ask the guys.
All of it is like – because that's just having the confidence to go up to someone and just be like – I was like, yeah, what's your thing? Not being too serious. You slide in. So what's your thing? Okay, so I ask the guys. All of it is like, because that's just having the confidence to go up to someone and just be like,
not taking it too seriously.
What about if you slide in?
So what's your thing?
Yeah.
What if they're like hamsters?
Huh?
What if they're like hamsters?
Hamsters?
I'm like, hamsters?
React to it accordingly.
Hamsters are your thing?
Yeah.
Next thing you know,
you're on a conversation.
It's all,
you know what the problem is?
What you just did there, the way you would, if you were to like, I'm going to exaggerate. No, I know, but you'd be nervous about it's all it's you know what the problem is what you just did there
the way you would if you were i'm gonna exaggerate no i know but but you'd be nervous about it and
you'd be like how should i say it and all that and the person who actually genuinely asked the
question what's your thing would just be like sipping their beer and be like what's your thing
that that's when you're like okay okay do i look good should i should i say it this way should i
say it that way and then they smell that on you they feel that i still don't know over the holidays
because i was just like going to a lot of parties and just ended up in rooms with people I didn't know.
And I'd just be like,
I'd be sitting there,
and I'd be like,
what's your thing, Jimmy?
He'd be like,
I like Taylor Swift.
And I was like,
that was really how it started.
But Jimmy was the first person I did it on.
And then I started using it on regular people.
And everyone is so...
I think the audience knows this do they no i'm not
gonna tell it either but between the line i don't think you can on that no you can't you can't you
can not understand that story unless i tell it to you in full yeah but like i just do it to people
all the time now and like because everyone has a thing if you and everyone's really excited to
talk about their thing but that work on you um some finance guy but the thing is like i don't
have a thing so but you do yeah you would say you would say that thing is, I don't have a thing.
But you do.
Yeah, you do. You would say that
and I'd go,
no, you have a thing.
Puzzles.
Yeah.
2048.
This bitch is so good
at that 2048 show.
I just played that
on the plane.
Couldn't do it.
Bro, I've been trying
and I've been playing
and I'm like,
I look at her differently.
I'm like,
it's incredible.
Her scores are incredible.
I've been like, really trying. She went to coding school. She probably made the fucking differently. I'm like, it's incredible. Her scores are incredible.
She went to coding school.
She probably made the fucking score.
I want to watch you play to figure out what I'm doing wrong.
Because I'm like, I think I'm doing everything right, but I always hit like 15,000 and I get tapped out. I keep reading, and you just alluded to it too.
It's like, guys don't approach girls in public anymore.
And then you see all these viral tweets.
A guy handed
me this note asking me out disgust it's like and so guys some of those are like very plain like
normal fans like can you believe that this guy fucking like and it's like i don't know that's a
very normal interaction jesus christ everything's like tinder and uh bumble and hinge and like
people really don't approach people anymore so it's like all right i'm gonna bring it back even if you didn't have a thing and you didn't know what to say with your reaction to that
someone just casually saying that you'd be like whoa but it's hard as fuck to approach i mean i
remember my friend who was like the best at talking to anybody but specifically girls he
fell drunk one night fell hit his head into a hot dog cart and then hit the pavement, just tore his face up.
And we went out the next night.
And he was like, skin was
falling off his head.
And he had Vaseline on it.
He was a wreck.
And he would just go up to girls and be like, how bad is this?
My friends are saying it doesn't look that bad.
I think it looks pretty bad. What do you think?
That's great.
Literally, your face is mangled. But he just did it in such a confident like look at my face it's mangled how
bad is it it's really bad right and i was like this is insane this is you know but it wasn't
about what he was saying it's how he's saying it i think a common one probably is like where do i
know you from but now it's like when somebody comes up to me and says like where do i know
you from my friends will all be like you know i'm from barstool he's just like doing like a pickup
line basically yeah um but that i mean that one i feel like is the easiest one wait how do i know
you i would like but that's so easy you're like i know i don't know you yeah that's me that would
turn me off working no it wouldn't but like uh like you're recommending other people i i give
it a chance like because i'll be like maybe i do do actually know you. Because it's New York City.
You can know anybody.
I feel like that feels to me like a pick-up line.
It feels pick-up line to me too.
Yeah, yeah.
I'd be like,
you don't know me.
Get the fuck away from me.
Yeah, I do.
I remember I had a friend
who was very good at weaving in.
He'd be talking to a girl
and then he'd be like,
what's your boyfriend's name again?
And then they'd be like,
I don't have a boyfriend.
He'd be like,
oh, that's right.
And he would do it every time.
It's like the legally blonde when it's like, and your boyfriend's name, and he they'd be like, I don't have a boyfriend. He's like, oh, that's right. And like, he would do it every time. It's like the legally blonde one.
It's like,
and your boyfriend's name,
like,
and he's gay.
Yes,
yes,
yes.
I was going to ask,
going back to Severance real quick,
are you guys watching Severance?
Yeah.
Okay.
I love Severance.
Severance,
I know is a good show.
It's a slow show though.
Slow show.
And I,
when I first watched it,
I was like,
it's losing me.
Is it?
Okay.
When the topic, when I learned of the subject of the show, I was like, this is going to be amazing.
I love this idea.
And then I started watching.
I was like, this is too slow for me.
And now it's like – I feel like I need to set aside a day where I binge all eight in a row of season one and then I'm in.
But I remember watching it being like, this is – we got to get going here.
I like Paradise because I love the concept and they didn't overcomplicate it.
It's just you get your answers. You get the twist, and it's a good enough script.
Severance, I feel, is just overcomplicating everything.
It hurts my brain.
It's a chore now.
Okay.
I completely agree with you there.
I will say that.
I am not excited to watch Severance when I watch it.
It hurts my head.
You do need a little lioness in your life where it's like, is a good show but it's got some of the the get up you know once i watch it i'm like this
is fucking incredible but also like and i i think part of that is like i watch pavs work i watch
owen work and like i have like an appreciation for like the shot did you see the shot in the
hallway yeah the hallway that was cool like but like even just like like in episode two they were
doing stuff where just like the way the way shots were fading in and fading back out like i think because
of watching them work i i don't know how to do anything but i have an understanding of like
what it takes yeah and i'm like so like when i watch it i'm like this is fucking amazing
but i have to work up the courage to be like here we go yeah that to me that like when a show is
when a show is work it becomes a little
different to me like but it's there are certain shows worth working for and certain ones that
are not and you gotta like pick and choose your battles like i watch episode two i don't like to
have to read reddit or the internet after what did that mean what happened there but i don't know
no because otherwise i really just won't understand a lot of it but you get it like i don't know i i i was a very big like true
detective looking and now i like just watching it and getting what i get and not getting what i
don't get i feel like i understand half of what's happening then can i say a reddit theory that i
heard about it that i think is like actually like gonna be very accurate okay so lumen is a cloning um company and miss casey is a clone of his wife
and that's why she's like so robotic and then miss huang like the new like the eight-year-old
girl or whatever is like a new and improved because it like starts from birth so she's like
just really young but she is a clone she's like of miss casey or maybe not of her just like related
or something um and then that explains like the goats like the goats are like the rap lats
and um i can see that yeah isn't that like and so and then when they're like looking for numbers
they're looking in like faults in the clone or something like that that's what the bad numbers
is and i think that that's so i i on that theory so she's a
10 year old but something they said something about being like a crossing guard and then miss
casey his ex his dead wife also died in a car accident and so when she went to the funeral
miss coble in season one and drilled out his chip and they're like she goes this is him not this is
his chip this is him there's something to that where they are taking dead people and then putting them down in the severed floor to be those people.
So they're still alive, but they're not actually alive on the outside.
Interesting.
But he's also – his refinement is also his dead wife.
Like he's working – his computer shit is on his dead wife.
Oh, really? Yeah. like he's working his computer shit is like on his dead wife oh really yeah and that's why they
said he had like this phenomenal what they call like freshman year or something like his first
patient that he did the set the refinement on he did like such a good job because it was someone
he knew in real life oh interesting the severance to me felt like uh westworld was like i love the concept and i love the concept, but I was just like, I can't get into it.
There's the chance that happened.
I think I did two seasons of Westworld.
There's a chance.
But I really, like, it is, again, like, just from staring over pads of shoulder.
I notice stuff more.
And, like, the quality of it is so fucking good.
You know what I noticed?
Breaking Bad's like that, too, for me.
You know who really made it known they were part of the show in season two is ben stiller
yeah he was not i at least i didn't see in season one he was not like a part of all the marketing
shit he is all over this now yeah every video every everything he's an insane director yeah
watch escape at dannemora on on netflix you do that it was on it was on showtime at the end of
showtime's run of relevance like it was right towards yeah i remember that it's probably like
season eight of shameless like it was late late five seven years ago we'll call it and escape
at danimura still directed that too it's fucking he's a good example of like he's obviously wildly
wildly successful so but he's like he moved on to a different thing in hollywood right he's crushing
it yeah you're not going to do that dude can you take like hey call up spielberg teach me how to
direct well i think you always know how to do it a little bit and you just do you know get better
at it at the time but it's cool to watch someone it's like all right you're not like a jim carrey
20 million dollar movie blockbuster every year but it's like you're but he also could be yeah
you wanted to right should i give my jim carrey take uh his best role his he should have been nominated for best actor liar liar just nobody
else can do you still want to take from me nope did you say that i've said that take like oh 20
years i've recently re-watched i mean if you talk about literally just acting no it's incredible i
would say truman show he's good in it so many actors can be in the Truman Show. Nobody can do it.
The Liar Liar is like...
It's the peak of physical comedy.
Yeah, it really is.
The subject matter is not serious enough,
so it'll never get attention,
but it's like what he is doing,
I don't think very few people could do.
He took a basic comedy script,
and he just ran with it,
and he's so many levels above
what anybody else could do in that.
I'm with you on that, man.
Michael Che, after... I think it was after Joe Coy. so many levels above what anybody else could do in that i'm with you on that mike michael che
after i think that's a joe coy it's after an award show where there was hullabaloo about the host
and michael che had a like instagram story like a couple of in a row that was so funny where he
was talking about basically he was very heartfelt and interesting where he was like we just shouldn't
do it like none of us should do this they'll it. Like, none of us should do this.
They'll ask us every year.
None of us should do it because they don't respect us as artists.
If they respected us as artists, then Jim Carrey would have gotten a nomination for comedy work he did.
And Eddie Murphy would have gotten nominations for comedy work he did.
And blah, blah, blah.
And then the last slide is, having said all that, hit me up if you need me.
Then you just need to be loved.
All right, dog.
Good stuff.
That was awesome.
Great episode, Eric.
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