KFC Radio - Ochocinco, Josh Allen, Gary Vaynerchuk & Geronimo Allison

Episode Date: February 7, 2019

KFC & Feits discuss the state of the podcasting game and how Spotify is throwing around big money. John is frustrated with history books and home economics. Does money buy happiness? Do the White Walkers win? Voicemails include: swimming under a tsunami, eating a hot pocket in the shower, where do you wear a towel, live for 24 more hours or 20,000 more years.Ochocinco (57:34) joins the program to tell us that he was a virgin until he was 27, how his stats are the same as Michael Irvin and he deserves to be in the HOF, offers to play with Josh Allen for free, and expresses his lover for Peaky Blinders and Tommy Shelby. Gary Vaynerchuk (1:14:51) pops on with Geronimo Allison. Gary thinks Adam Gase will dominate the division, John does not. Gary also considers buying the Mets with KFC and calls Tom Brady a dickface.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/kfcr

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Do you know how infuriating it is for other podcasts, other networks, to be selling huge fucking numbers when we just have the best podcast on the planet here? We're the biggest ones, the most engaged ones, the most successful ones, the most profitable ones. Somebody come buy ours! Whatever. What does Gimlet Media have? They got some big ones.

What do they have? What do they have? They have Startup. They have Reply All. Those stink. I don't know what those are. I never heard of those. What else?

Those are the only two I know. That stinks. They have two. No, they have like 30. Right, but two you can only name. You come here, get part of my take. Get chicklets. Get those crazy hoes from Daddy Gang.

Get us. We've been doing this forever. I don't care. I don't want to get bought anyway. I don't want to get fucking rich. Who cares? Well, like, Dave gets rich. We just go do a podcast for a different company

we'll get we'll get we'll go we better get some fucking money i would be shocked so like it's nice to think about and fantasize about but like i don't think i i don't think it matters to me i don't think i don't think there's anything that well let me tell you this much if that happens then we just kill ourselves because then this is literally for nothing i've been sitting here thinking about the podcast Gold Rush. And we've heard it from people we know in the industry. We've seen it from trends. We've Digiday.

All these people writing about us. Podcasts are still new. Like, it's still a big deal. It doesn't feel like it for you, the listener of this show, and for us at Barstool, and specifically at KC Radio, where we've been doing it forever. And then people like Bill Simmons have been doing it like 10 years beyond that. What started out as like a little nerd diary type of thing has now become the most basically like prevalent source of entertainment and media in the country, but it's still- I believe it's the fourth.

It's like, or no, it's the second largest form of digital branding, I think, or digital sales. Like one is pre-roll. Oh, no, it's the second largest form of digital branding, I think, or digital sales. Like one is pre-roll. Oh, no, one is like SEO. And I think this is like number three. Right, and that's like cheating. Yeah. And I mean, what is it, like 25% of people listen to podcasts now?

One out of four? And it's regarded as the most engaged of all listenerships and like the feedback on advertising, the engagement on promo codes and sales and direct response. It's like the most powerful form in the world. But it's all still so new. Like it's still, you know, you think about something like television, which has been around for 50, 60, 70 years, whatever it is now. Like that is so entrenched in American culture. It's like everybody has multiple TVs and watches cable and whatever.

It's like this podcast is still becoming that. And so the people who got in on it early, which it's still early. Like now I think we're getting kind of reaching that cutoff. But like where we were is still so early for a major type of media like revolution. And we're big and successful so if we don't get rich off this something has gone so wrong i don't see do you think we're not gonna get rich yeah no i don't so like that's why like i mean first of all i i always practice what i preach where i don't set the bar low but i don't think that's this like i don't think i don't think we'll get rich do you

think we're gonna get rich well i mean let like do you think that like if like disney buys hbo that like every actor on game of thrones is suddenly much more rich like you just because like a whole network sells like the owners of that network uh profit from it a lot i think of it more every actor doesn't i think of it more like and i have no idea if this think of it more like, and I have no idea if this is even comparable or not, but like the NBA salary cap went through the roof because of TV deals. And everybody's just getting more money.

J.R. Smith's getting $80 million. Something like that. I think there's... I just made that up. Let's hope. I think there's a real future in podcasting because I think more money is going to flow through it. I don't think that we need to necessarily sell to anybody. I don't think that we need to necessarily sell to anybody. I don't think that anybody needs to buy us. I just think that if we're going to go from,

uh, fucking, uh, what was that thing called? Nature box where I was selling goddamn granola stamps.com stamps.com where they wanted me to sell a fucking scale. Hey, sell this $150 scale to your fucking friends

to weigh envelopes. Okay. I was like, you guys are the most, you're the biggest podcast advertisers. I'm not going to sell one of these. Nobody is going to buy this. We're going to go goose egg on this. But if that changes to like...

Yeah, if like Procter and Gamble. Yeah. All of their companies start coming in. Yeah. I would guess talent makes more. But I don't I don't think of it as something like, oh, Barstool Sports is the sell because I don't think that will affect. I know that won't affect my life at all.

It's got a Johnny. Hold out some hope. Otherwise, I'm done. I'm not doing this anymore. I think it's good to see. Like, I wasn't sure who would buy something like this and seeing a platform get into it like Spotify in a big fucking way

$230 million I think our podcast network is I haven't seen Gimlet's numbers I don't think they submit we submit to PodTrack so I don't know if there's anything I know that we smash them how do you even buy that much money for someone who doesn't submit to PodTrack I'm not sure I really don't know that we smashed them. How do you even buy that much money for someone who doesn't submit to PodTrack?

I'm not sure. I really don't know. Some of their numbers may be available. I haven't seen them. If they're not on PodTrack, then... I'm sorry. If they are on PodTrack, then they're smaller than us. Because I've read the top ten on PodTrack. We're on it.

I've never heard of them until today. I absolutely think they're smaller than our network. And they're just really a podcast company. I mean, they have a few characters. Like, I know Alex Blumberg is, like, the El Prez of that. And he was at NPR, and he started this all. And I remember, because it was right around the time Serial came out, they also dropped Startup, which is a podcast about him starting a podcast company.

And now, you know, so they have. But, I mean, it's a bunch of people who have, like, 30,000 followers on Twitter. I mean, I can't do that. I, I can't, I can't do that. I can't do that. I can't do that. It's like we are in a sport. Like we are in a league and we are the fucking best basketball players on the planet. And the NBA is just like, no, not those guys.

It's like, I don't know what Spotify is really going to do with the nerds from Spotify, like the nerds from Gimlet. And they're just shoveling their money around Rather than being like Well I mean we work with Spotify Yeah but they're not buying us I'd personally rather work with them I just want to get rich

I don't want to have to answer to corporate America I like this Spotify bought us And I have to follow different rules. No, yeah. Well, right. I'm basing it on the idea that they would still let us function and just put Procter & Gamble type shit up in there. Spotify might make those Gimlet stuff exclusive.

That's what they did with Joe Budden. So this could be like, as that continues, that could spark the bidding war between... iTunes, Spotify. Yeah, and then it could drive all prices up. Or it could drive prices down. I don't really know where it's going to go right now. But even those, I don't see how those things affect us. I don't see how that affects us at all.

It's a bleak outlook. I'm just thinking, we got in on this, specifically us, very early. Barstool got in on it early enough. Barstool does it better than everyone. I mean, you should buy the network for PMT alone just just for that they're thinking the rest as fucking extra absolutely just buy pmt you'll get your money back you'll get more money than you're gonna get out of gimlet again making things up but i'm pretty fucking sure about that just get chiclets just depends on how much you spend on it you would have i mean cost you a lot to buy pmt

like a lot of fucking money. But I'm just thinking we all have done this to such a high level, to a truly unprecedented level when you hear some of these advertisers, the feedback being like, well, we had to shut down the promo code because we broke it. That happens with every advertiser. Every single time we do it. We sell boots now.

We're about to do a sneaker collab. We're going to sell everything from clothes to home security, air filter, whatever you want to sell. People will buy it if we tell you to do it. It's free money. And all of this is moving and shaking, and we're going to buy you, and that's going to buy that, and this is going to be exclusive. We're going to change the game. We have to be in on it somehow. We have to be.

It's literally missing the gold rush. It's like, yeah, there's gold in those hills. And you're like, I'm just going to stay here. I'm just going to stay in this shitty fucking studio with the fucking itchy insulation on the walls with the internet that doesn't work. Your wife is coming soon. I mean, you know, just for the last two hours,

I've just been sitting at my desk with my feet up, laptop closed. No internet. No internet. No internet. He keeps going, the internet's fine. I was like been sitting at my desk with my feet up. Laptop closed. No internet. No internet. Pete keeps going, the internet's fine. I was like, no it's not. I had written a blog and I couldn't post it. I couldn't send it to myself because I had no internet.

So I had to borrow Keith's Ethernet to post the blog. And then once I posted it, I just closed my laptop and sat at my desk, waited for you to get down with the radio so we could come do this. Is that what you want, Pete? There's no point in being in this office you can't use the internet it's non-functioning the internet and like i thought that he was one i thought like that's barstool that's what's so fucking stupid about this company like that's the bar deliverance i

thought that was like a milton thing like when the squirrels were eating wires it's not it's just like it's how barstool sports works for some reason well i mean fucking internet now the difference the only thing here is I can't knock Pete. He's just... He's straight mail time. No, I can knock him. I can knock him because I need the internet. So don't be mail time, Pete.

Even Trent was like, fuck you. Yeah. But here's the thing. I don't think Pete's job is to fix the internet here. I don't know whose job it is. here's the thing. A riot was about to break. Here's the thing. I don't think Pete's job is to fix the internet here. I don't know whose job it is. That's the problem. So, like, if all of a sudden you fix the internet a couple times, and then someone was like,

dude, get in that fucking closet in there, fiddle with the wires, and fix the internet, and you were like, I write blogs and do radio. I mean, it's definitely, Pete's job is, like, all the technical stuff here. So, maybe it's not his job to fix it, but it's his job to find the person to fix it. Well, I said it's a common law thing. Like, I don't know what your job title is.

I don't know what you got hired for, what the resume says, what the interview was, what you actually do to get paid. All I know is you've been fixing the internet

for a long time now. So you're the internet fixer. That's it. And if you can't fix it this time, find someone to do it. Or we fucking kill you. Like an angry mob.

Pitchforks and torches. It's insane. We hang you. Insane. It's insane. But I do kind of respect a guy who's just like looking you right in the face lying and being like we're moving from here so i'm not gonna work here anymore but that move is not happening for like five months the idea that we're gonna get out of here by April or whatever. That's what they say. Like New York City. April 1 is the move date? Yeah, that sounds like a fucking Pete lie.

I mean, February, March, April. April 1st. April Fool's Day is the day we move to the new office. Some people will be moved by March. In March, not by March. Yeah, like I just don't. They're like, no, no, no, you don't get it. It has to be because our lease starts. So the money starts, so we have to be in.

Oh, that's all well and good. This is Barstool Sports. We don't light money on fire. We're the most efficient economical company in the world, you dumb fucks. I'll tell you what the problem is. We got the guy running the money and the guy running the tech who don't know how the fucking company works.

I'll tell you right now, we'll overlap six or seven months of this goddamn fucking lease. Dickheads. This is why we're not going to sell. Yeah. Because someone's going to come and take a look and be like, these guys can't even run the internet.

And I'd be like, you're probably right. It makes sense. I get it. I'm going to pitch. I'm going to pitch right now. It's like me getting rejected by a girl. I get it.

Makes sense. But here's the thing. I took a shot. Here's the thing. That, my friends, is where the opportunity lies. that's where you find the arbitrage okay because if you come in and you say these dudes do 250,000 and these girls do 400,000 and these guys do 500 and these guys do a million and they don't know what the fuck they're doing

so we just come in and fix the internet and give them nice studios and show them how to put some ads in your, in, you know, what's it called? Dynamic ads will triple all their output without doing anything. So it's good that we're idiots. It's good that Pete sucks at his job. It's great that Resnick doesn't know what the fuck's going on because when they come in and they clean it all up, they don't have to change any content. They don't have to find new talent.

All they have to do is fix infrastructure and dumb business processes. And next thing you know, quadruples your output. That's kind of what Nardini did. Churning came in

on a small scale and they just cleaned shit up and gave us a little bit of clout and we knew how to take meetings. We didn't have Dave in there telling Google to go fuck themselves anymore.

We're just going to do the next level of that. We're worth like $750 million when you think about it. Because our incompetence is worth like $250. I mean, if Gimlet is worth $250 million. We've got to be a bill. I mean, our podcast network is definitely bigger than theirs. And they don't, like that's what I'm saying about the personalities.

Like they have a guy who is El Prez. He has 15,000 followers. Like, he's not, like, making national news. I can absolutely appreciate John's – I can absolutely appreciate John's utter commitment to indifference and apathy, but we have to get rich, John. Okay. It's not going to happen, but okay. Like, all of these things you're talking about none of these things affect us i don't i don't see how these things affect us at all i see them i see

how dave gets rich from them well i don't see how they affect us well has has things not gotten better from milton to churning a little bit a little bit come on a little bit i got a little bit of more money in our pocket there'd be a big jump from churning to like spotify 100 millions of dollars we'll see again there better be otherwise murder suicide otherwise i i know i know how my life ends and like it doesn't end rich so but you know michael scott talks about how when i picture my life i'm i'm sitting on my yacht with my family and my comedy gold albums. I know that's not where I end. So what am I going to get worked up for now?

Somebody gave me this big speech the other day. This girl was like, your story. She's talking to me about all my issues and shit. And I was like, beat myself up and guilt. I haven't forgiven myself. At least that's how she was diagnosing me. I was like, some of this is true. Some of this is not.

I'm going to let you run with it. She was like, at the end of the day your life finishes happy the end of your story is gonna be happy so just cut out the middle part where you're upset or you're guilty or you're beating yourself up because you're gonna end in a spot where you're just like this is my life i used to think like that i was like i'm sitting there like this is really really nice i remember we used to talk about that sometimes. We'd be like, yeah, this will all be worth it for some reason. Yeah, and now I don't believe that. I was shaking my head. I was like, no, no, no, it won't.

Probably not. Like life is Game of Thrones, and she thinks John and Danny end up on. Right. I'm here to tell you the White Walkers can't. This is probably going to be the White Walkers. Winter is coming. Eventually, winter is going to come all over your face. And you're done.

There was a time where I believed in like a sad movie or a horror movie can have a happy ending. And I just saw a lot of horror movies. Yep. And they don't end happy. I, at 33 years old and in the past couple years have seen so much bad shit happen i mean i told brendan the other day i was like we need to start a list of things that i can eventually talk about one day and whether it's going to be a stand-up comedy routine or a fucking book or a goddamn tv show the amount of stories good bad funny laugh, laugh at me, laugh at my expense And I think

I live a pretty I definitely live a very Happy, privileged life So as you just age As you just have more opportunities To see more fucked up stuff You just do And imagine if you actually had things bad

Imagine if you were poor Imagine if you were discrimin things bad imagine if you were poor imagine if you were discriminated against imagine if you were addicted to this or injured with that you would see the absolute worst life has to offer just simply by waking up every day that's where I'm at like every day I wake up

is just another opportunity for the world to show me how shitty it can be and so someone telling me the pot of gold is at the end of the rainbow bro just just go why are you that's no it's i don't think it is so wide shit yeah are you 12 or are you sheltered or are you lying i mean i i know i'm like broken and talking about that stuff because like i mean it's just my mind i think my mind has a just a gray cloud where it just sees it it sees what it's seeing and it knows how it should feel about it and it just can't like like i mean like i like this weekend like super bowl weekend was i mean i had a lot of fun with my dad and my brother and i i

mean my mom's like your dad hasn't stopped smiling yeah my brother's texting me you know you should be a happy person he's like he's like he's like that way he's gone to god like that week this weekend was a movie like we're at he's we're at like fucking the wheels up party and he's like oh excuse me by linda holiday then accidentally bumps into steve smith and like yeah we're with aaron judge at the adidas party where the super bowl scene the pats win six we're fucking fucking riding with the gronks yeah wait a minute maybe you should be a happy person just like that fuck yeah i i yeah it's a dopamine leveling, Kevin. It's what it is.

I'm like, I know. I lived it, and I knew I should be appreciative of this. And I am appreciative of it, but I should really soak in what's happening, and I just can't do that. It's some fucking depressing shit. At the end of the day, you're all going to die.

All going to die one day. Like Garibas says, the sun's going to explode eventually. I wish. You know what would help? Is if we sold. So how about that? I'm going to hold the fucking industry hostage. If we sold, you'd just be miserable because they'd be so much richer.

You'd be mad. I think we'd reach a point where if I was rich enough, I wouldn't care about other people being more richer. More richer than me. More money, more problems. I'll tell you what, we're going to get rich off these fucking Sherpa hoodies.

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Get yourself some Sherpa. Who's on the program today? Ocho Cinco and Gary Vaynerchuk. Bam! Double fucking whammy. Gary Vaynerchuk, ever heard of him? Most obnoxious millionaire in the world. Chad Ocho Cinco, Gary Vaynerchuk. Bam! Double fucking whammy. Gary Vaynerchuk. Ever heard of him? Most obnoxious millionaire in the world. Chad Ocho Cinco.

Ever heard of him? Little less obnoxious millionaire. Done. I love Ocho Cinco. I love Ocho Cinco. Ocho Cinco versus Waka Flaka. Who do you like? I'm more intrigued by Waka.

I think I enjoy talking with Ocho. Me too. It's a little like Waka is such a cartoon. It's almost hard. I feel like I can just kick it with Chad Johnson too. It's a little like WACA is such a cartoon. It's almost hard. I feel like I can just kick it with Chad Johnson. Like he's a buddy. We can just talk. WACA, I mean, he told us.

He gave us the blueprint. Tech. That's how we get sold. We got to get in on tech. Right. We saw that today. Anchor, another 200 mil. Tech.

The problem is we're talent. What a waste of time talent is. John just laughing straight in Gary Vaynerchuk's face. What's his stare? Oh, it was amazing. He didn't know what hit him. The New England, like, football, sports, sports fandom is the great equalizer. Oh, Gary Vee, he started in his wine store, and he built the YouTube page,

and then he turned it into a social media empire. Now he's a sports agent and a sneaker designer and a mogul. Guess what? Your football team sucks and John can laugh in your fucking face. You're excited about Adam Gase. Yes. You said that Adam Gase is going to take over the division. How smart could you be when you actually say that out loud?

John over here, dumb, broke, ugly, smelly feet. He's laughing in your fucking face, Gary. It was great. As much as I hate to be on the wrong side of that, it was the perfect embodiment of how sports is the great equalizer. Sports on the, if you play them, if you root for them. That's only because Gary really does care about sports. Like any other.

That was like Elon Musk sitting there. Right, right, right, right, right. You're not better than me in any way, shape, or form. Yeah, there has to be the caveat that people care. But when you know they care, you could be the best-looking guy and hook up with the best girls. You can have all the money. You can have the fortune, the fame.

You went 6-10, bro. You're a fucking loser. I have as many Super Bowls as you're going to win games per year for the next 20 years. That's true. And there's nothing you can fucking say back. So, Ocho Cinco, he's spewing some lie about being a virgin. I don't know what's going on.

I said right to his face, I said, what's going on? Is this for a sponsor? Is there a punchline at the end? A new character? Yeah, is this a mystery? Is this a long con? Are you Andy Kaufman-ing this shit? I don't know.

I don't know the answer. I didn't get to the bottom of it. But Ocho Cinco was a trip. Joshosh allen interrupted so there's a little like josh allen uh appearance afterwards i don't know did we put it in the interview josh allen gets up he goes to do answer the internet he goes it's not josh rosen josh allen that one's alan no okay he goes i think i called him Rosen so very good moments we doubled up again on the interviews

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oh I guess we'll do that after the flowers what's your theory on life no about uh nevermind we can do it later first thing before all this

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What's your theory? The Oklahoma City bombing stuff. Oh, yes. I mean, it's not really a theory. It's more of a— A little impromptu Barstool DVR. Netflix has a new documentary. It's not even about that, really. I watched it last night because I've heard about the Oklahoma City bombing a lot.

You have a thirst for knowledge. I just don't really know anything about it. Yeah, it was fucked up. I know I was alive for it. And I'm watching it. I'm like, this is so stupid that no one ever taught me about this. And then I realized that, like, I think there are, like, just 20 years of your life where you can't even really – maybe, like, 15 years. Where, like, you just don't learn about important things. Anything that happens in that time span – because by the time you get to high school, it's not, like, in the textbooks yet.

Yeah, okay. I was just about to say the problem with that is it's it's when it occurred it's too soon but too late exactly like so like almost all of your life like half of my life i don't know what happened like i couldn't process the news and then literally half of my life i'll give myself until even like probably a little older than that like before you're like really like paying attention to news and stuff like that. But I like over half of my life. Yeah, so you're not. I don't know what happened.

You're not tuned in enough on your own to be like, I'm going to watch the news or read the newspaper and learn about this current event. Right. Meanwhile, I can tell you everything that happened in the fucking French and Indian War because the textbooks are written 200 years ago. There's no fucking point of that. Well, that's, but so that's changed now. The internet has changed that.

But not even then, like you're still a 16 year old isn't like, oh, I want to see. No, but you're going to, you're at least going to get headlines and basic knowledge. Like you're not like, that's what the problem right now is. Everyone's so tapped into politics. I think they know what the fuck they're talking about. So they're not really educated, but you're at least informed because you see what's trending. It's almost worse to be opinionated rather than educated. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, everyone's super opinionated. They don't have a fucking – That's true. That is true. I don't think having an opinion is bad either, but I just think that, like, yes, now everyone reads the headlines and it's like, that's bullshit. Well, right. You didn't click the fucking link, dickhead. You can't stop people from being opinionated, uninformed assholes.

But the fact of the matter is that if I say to you, like, what's the crisis with Flint, Michigan? And you're going to be like, oh, I know what it is because I've been alive on the internet. But for us, it was just like, oh, I'm going to be outside like throwing fucking sticks in the water. It didn't happen. I'm going to climb a tree until I fall out of the tree.

That was a, I knew nothing about it. I was nine. So, like, I didn't know anything about about it i didn't realize how it started i don't think i know i just know timothy mcveigh right you just know timothy mcveigh like yeah he was like a white he was he was not a white himself but he was i think i i knew he was anti-government because he saw the united states as a bully when he was over in ira He said, why am I killing these Iraqis? They're just like regular people. And when he came home, it was like Ruby Ridge.

It just happened. And I don't even know what that is. So Ruby Ridge was the, this one I just know from the Waco. That happened in the dark zone. That was in, I think that was before us. I think that was like 80s. But that's still like the 10 years before you too. You're using textbooks that are 20 years old. stuff that happened in your life you don't fucking

learn about no you don't it's just like it's like it didn't happen can i tell you what i know i was so mad last night watch this i was like i'm dumb i was like i should have fucking learned this at some point how did no one teach me this shit like i was like i was furious it was like it was like he was like radicalized you know that's what everyone always asks like with a terrorist like where was he radicalized? He's radicalized in America by Second Amendment gun nuts and white supremacists and shit like that. I'm like, I should have known this happened.

I should have known this happened. And the only reason you did is because Netflix made a fucking documentary when you were 30. Right. You would have never learned that. You were never going to pick up a textbook. You were never going to go back to class. You were never going to care. School is the dumbest fucking thing in the whole world, and I'm glad I didn't graduate.

What you really should do. Don't go to college. Don't go to high school. Fuck school. Just go home and read the internet. It's so stupid. It's so true. They don't teach you anything.

The other day I was reading something where it was like some fucking baby boomer asshole was like, you know what millennials are doing now? Millennials are taking knitting classes so they can learn how to sew their buttons. Yeah, assholes, because you caught home ec class. That was your fucking idea. You wanted to make standardized tests a big thing. We didn't even get a home ec. We didn't learn anything.

We didn't learn shit. I don't know what a mortgage is. John's mad he didn't do home economics. I'm mad that millennials are getting chirped for having to learn things that older people decided we didn't have to learn. Yeah, it's like you assholes didn't even know how to do that. Well, you're the ones who made it so we didn't know how to do that. You guys got to take the class. You said that class wasn't necessary.

Now we don't know how to do the things you learned in that class. I got a couple years of home ec and workshop class. Remember Mr. Clopper or whatever his name was? What was his name? Kirshner? Hopper? Hopper sounds right. Mr. Clopper or whatever his name was? What was his name? Kirshner? Hopper? Hopper sounds right. Mr. Hopper? He fucking walked around all slow with his ass popped out. He was always just like...

This black guy was like a fucking robot. And I remember making like... We made like a... Like solder and... Yeah, we solderized like a fucking... Cauterized? Definitely not solderized. Cauterized? Right? We fucking fucking... Soldering, like a fucking cauterized. Definitely not soldering. Cauterized, right? We fucking.

Soldering, yeah. Yeah. That was a little cauterized mixed with sodomized. But I was making shit. It was like a pencil holder, paper holder. And then we did the whole mech thing. Yeah, I had them in sixth grade. And then they were like, no, we're done.

Peace, it's gone. I was like, I like cooking. This is fun. We made like a cake. I ate cake next class. Fantastic. It got replaced with computer classes. Typing and shit.

Guess what? Typing doesn't matter. You'll just learn how to do that. Yeah, typing is just like breathing. Yeah, it's just like you'll figure it out, dude. Home row? Suck my dick. The quick frown fox jumped over the lazy frog.

Guess what? You're never going to fucking type. I'll put my fingers wherever the fuck I want. I'm just going to learn how to do it. Yeah, I can do this. I'll be able to do it really fast soon. Don't worry. They used to make you put your, like, they used to put a thing over it so you couldn't

see your hands. Go off, King. It just happens. It just happens. With typing, you just learn. That one's like, because you're going to be using the technology all the time. Forever. I haven't used an oven since I moved to New York because no one taught me how to use one.

Yeah, I just fucking, I just sold my house, took a bath on it. Don't know how anything works. I don't know where the money's coming from, how much I had left on the mortgage, how am I going to get this? It's all fucking made up. Someone could just rob you right now. It's so stupid. I hate school so much.

Anything that happens while you're alive, you're never going to learn. Here's what I know from my childhood. That's a fact. I remember. Now I'm worried. I'm like, what else have they been talking about? How dumb am I? How dumb am I?

What happened from 1985 to 2017? Like, very recently. Like, 2012. When I got Twitter, I started paying attention to, like, the news. I'm fairly informed on, like, the news. But until then. From 85 to 2012, someone start making documentaries. I need one every year.

Just year by year. Honestly, when I watched. This was 91. Maybe even before 85. Because, like I said, the textbooks we used in high school were so old. I was born in 88. So, definitely at least 88. But I think probably even five years before that.

Like, just give me a list of the things I should know what i remember no one else has i remember waco but i just remember like the the place waco i watched the the tv series that came out and i was like oh this is some there's like some shit here like the atf really fucked that up i didn't know that fucked it up big time yeah that guy's crazy but i fucked that up didn't know that uh i know i knew waco i knew hail bop i have an obsession with the hell i don't know what that is the heaven's gate cult i mean i i know what it is i don't know it's extent i mean i know that they're the drink kool-aid people right yeah yeah and they all they all put on the the the jumpsuit the kool-aid people where it's jonestown okay so yeah but they but they drank

poison too they definitely killed themselves yeah yeah and they had the nike you know the the nikes that they wear go on eBay for like $900 to Sneakerhead Culture, and I am about to buy them. I'm about to splurge and buy some cult sneakers! Those guys? Crazy. I know OJ. Everyone knows OJ. That was the one thing that like, you know,

permeated. So I know Waco, Hailbop, OJ. I knew Timothy McVay, but I used to confuse him with the Unabomber. Timothy, Ted. Thought those guys were the same guy. And then, like, fast forward to 9-11. I got nothing else.

We got nothing else. Yeah, 9-11 is, like, the one thing I remember in that 88 to 2012 time span. And Y2K. That's it. I got nothing. Y2K, I know my hockey coach worked on computers, and he had to leave hockey a lot because he was always going to update shit. I still don't know, like. Y2K, I know my hockey coach worked on computers and he had to leave hockey a lot because he was always going to update shit.

I still don't know. Y2K ended up being nothing. Did it end up being nothing or did they just brace themselves and fix it? It's like we spent a billion dollars, like $10 billion on it. We fixed it, guys. It could have been bad. I just remember thinking nuclear warheads were going to go all over the place. Yeah, I remember I was so pumped.

I remember I was like, this is bullshit. And then it was like, click, click, click, tick, tick, tick. Midnight. remember i was like this is bullshit and then it was like click click click tick tick tick midnight and i was like okay just wait it out i was a little scared i was actually at like probably like one of like the biggest like ritziest new year's eve parties i've ever been to for that because it was like some it was like some purge shit yeah it was like it's going down let's let's we were on like uh like a big house out in westport mass like right valets like everyone's like get the fuck away from civilization yeah we're gonna restart society here if we need to i was like what 11 12 in like i was in like my little boat my tux and i was like like this is fucking bullshit i remember i was just ranting all night i was like

i was like this is so to my mom was like, this sucks because it's the end of the world and I'm not old enough to celebrate it, but I'm old enough to die and know what's happening. I was like, what the hell is wrong with you? This is a deep level of comprehension that I don't think I like. I could be like partying,

but I'm not old enough to do that, to party at the end of the world. But I'm just here. Old enough to know this sucks. Yeah, I'm old enough to know I'm about to die and I'm just like what is wrong you're a fucking lunatic you got so many issues dude so many issues

that's why it's very perfect the one thing I learned another edition is out right now on Barstool Gold this time this one's not even an issue this one's a funny story

we'll do some issue I like to mix in funny stories with issues but like the fact that you you know just like the fact that stealing a dog is like, that's just my light work. Yeah, that's funny. My warm-up.

Stole a dog. I mean, look, I had a dog fight 12 hours. That's pretty funny. One thing I learned is the animated storytelling series. It's on Barstool Gold. You want to go watch it. So that's out. The documentary's out.

No, I was wrong on that. Oh, okay. The documentary's out next week. I don't know why we've been pushing it so hard for like weeks well get it now get watch one thing i learned the documentary will be out next week we'll be doing some cutting room floors and whatnot so uh gold is cooking barstoolgold.com slash kfc um i had one one last thought on on oh i could have seen remember remember when hank ripped himself off the fucking duct tape and you just ran ready to punch him?

I could have seen you like that, like at the stroke of midnight. Just like, three, two, one, it's Y2K! Just punch and get ready. Like, all right, we wore it up. Let's go, old man. Let's go, old man. The end is nigh! Let's go!

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Yeah. Like these are things where I feel like, you know, sometimes I'm like, I really think if you jump at the right time of a plummeting elevator, you're going to survive. Oh, yeah, correct. You know, like. Also correct. Like, if you really time it right, I feel like you can swim under any wave. Yeah, I mean, that makes perfect sense.

That's obvious, right? I don't even know how, I don't know,. Someone just called and said 2 plus 2 is 40. A tsunami is a destructive wall of water that is coming... Crashing down on... Nah, man. Like, deep impact. Remember when they're standing there on the ocean? Yeah.

If they just ran out with the water, kept pace with the water... They'd be fine. Because that's the problem. That's the problem with the tsunami is it sucks the coastline. Right. But if you can run and get in there... Whoa, get under that, baby. I mean, that's surfing. Look, I've taken... It's basically surfing. Taken on some big waves in my day. problem with the tsunami is it sucks the coastline right but if you can run in there right oh get under that baby i mean that's surf look i've taken surfing taking on some big waves in my

day wait you're chasing the water out yeah and then you have to swim under at the base i mean he's got a plan at least and then don't get me wrong like then you are like two miles out in the ocean you have to be able to swim. But that water is... Not your belly, your body surfing. This is not just going under the wave. This is like a plan. I'd probably catch the second one a little smaller. Once that wave had taken down all the buildings that I would crash into. Get another swell.

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So I'm a college kid, and the other day, my roommate was taking a shower. And he came out, came out of the shower, came out on a towel. And all of a sudden, I just look at this dude. And he was eating the Hot Pocket. Now, I asked him, I go, were you just eating in the shower? And he was trying to explain to me that there's nothing wrong with that. And I know that, you know, shower beers are a thing. Whatever. No one really bats an eyelash at it. But this dude was eating a fucking Hot Pocket.

Is this one of the weirdest things you've ever heard? I just want to get your take. I thought it was just fucking crazy. But I want to hear your take. Viva. It's not the classiest of choices, but I feel like. It's crazy. It's insane.

Would you eat anything in the shower? No. Okay. So my point was going to be, if you're eating in the shower, you have no standards to begin with. So don't crucify the guy for eating a Hot Pocket. Oh, no, I don't think it's a Hot Pocket. If he's eating filet mignon in the shower, then he's okay? No.

You're eating a butcher box filet mignon wrapped in bacon? No. So to me, it's like, if you're going to be white trash and eat, go be white trash and eat. You're just standing in the rain. Who eats standing in the rain? Yeah, I agree with you. I've never. Shower beer is a very different scenario.

It's a wet aluminum can. It's liquid. You're getting drunk. There's a reason. It's not filling up with water. It's not getting wet. The Hot Pocket is a scorching hot, intended to be crispy, flaky food. You're now drenching it in water?

I don't even think we have to be breaking this down on food types here. It does not matter what food it is. You can't eat a food in the shower. You can't eat a food in the shower. What about like an ice pop? No, no food in the shower, Kevin. Damn it. And I hate more than this is what I hate is like people who are like, dude, it's a life hack.

Saves time. People love giving life hacks for the shower. Like, hey, you want to save time? Brush your teeth in the shower. It doesn't make any goddamn sense. I don't know. I'm down with that. You're just taking away from the time I'm soaping.

I'll just soap, and then I'll use my hands to dry off and fucking brush my teeth. If I'm brushing my teeth in the shower, I'm not soaping. It's not a life hack. No, I think that there is a little bit of time value added and saved with drying off. I mean, you can brush your teeth while with a towel wrapped around you and you're still a little wet. That's fine. But if you're in the shower brushing your teeth

thinking you're saving time, you're not. You're just brushing your teeth instead of soaping. It's like, oh, I got a life hack. Like, do your work in the shower. It doesn't make any sense. You're just doing things in the shower. It's not a life hack.

You got like a soaking wet book. Yeah. Pages. Fucking soap. People will tell you about this. Like, oh, you need to save time this morning? Why don't you take a toothbrush in the shower? First of all.

What? You're saving me like 70 seconds. You're saving me, like, 70 seconds. What am I going to do with 65 more seconds of my life? But it's people thinking, like, they did. I think of it as a life hack. Like, I remember, like, in college, I just had everything in that, like, shower caddy. Dump kit. And I would just do it all in one shit.

No, no, no, no. There's a difference. The shower, the college shower caddy is just like a fucking crate. It's just like a mesh crate it's just like a mesh crate you see by the way it's like the new nba fashion is doc kits you see that uh the the the um the fanny pack across your chest oh that's last year buddy no yeah no that's like supreme spring 2017 i think no well it's just hitting now though because sony michelle was wearing it on kimmel and we had i think eddie jackson Sonny Michelle was wearing it on Kimmel, and we had, I think,

Eddie Jackson came on our show wearing it. You were out that day, I think. You were doing, you weren't on radio that day. He had the, like, across-the-chest fanny pack that was a big to-do, and then I saw Sonny Michelle on it on Kimmel. So, I don't know. Feidelberg world, maybe it's

old, but... I mean, it's not old, but it's just, I guess. That's... It's probably coming close to mainstream. Fuck you, John. You know what I had a question for with the roommate wearing the towel? This is a big thing for me. Where do you wear your towel? When you tie your towel.

Around my waist. I know, but where do you tie it? Like... Like on my left hip. But, wait, how... Are you above belly button or below? Oh, below belly button. Okay. I think people who –

You're old if you go above belly button. Who wears it like it is sternum? Oh, no. Every time it comes to the living room, I'm like, what are you doing? You have to be 65 and up to do that. Mine's like the base of my dick. I'm like now Venus out there. I'm showing the arrows that I don't have.

Right, right. I want to look hot even though I'm not. Like, yeah, you might see my fucking. I think Gaz does it, too. You might see the top of my dick. I think both my roommates have it, like, up to their nipples. Gaz definitely is the guy who puts it around his armpits. Like a girl.

You know how girls put it over their tits? That's what Gaz does. He's covering up his chest. I'm like, you can see my pubes. I am barely wearing a towel. I wear a towel like a Topanga wears a t-shirt. Like, it's barely on. It's a strong Gus.

Wait, Topanga? Yeah, she's always... I'm sorry, I've been... Saved by the bell. Kelly Kapowski. Kelly Kapowski. I was like, Topanga was wholesome, bro. Yeah, no, no, no.

Kelly Kapowski. It's just hanging on by a thread. Yeah, like a strong Gus. I'm naked. I don't need to see that. Not even a strong Gus. Like, if I take my hand off it, I'm probably naked. Like, I'm always holding it. It's not even tied in. Yeah, like a strong gust. I'm naked. I don't need to see that. Not even a strong gust. Like, if I take my hand off it, I'm probably naked.

Like, I'm always holding it. It's not even tied in. Yeah, it's not even tied. I'm just holding two ends together. How about when girls do the shower thing and the hair thing? You know what I love? When girls ask you, like, when girls stay over, I'm like, do you want a towel? Hoping they'll say no.

Because, like, I have three towels. One of them is a towel ripped in half. Two of them are a towel ripped in half. The hole had gotten so big, but it was like a beach towel, so I was like, fuck it. Just ripped it. Two towels. I got two and a half towels

and that one I come in all the time. Okay, do you have like a hair towel and a face towels and that one I come in all the time. Okay. Do you have like, do you have like a hair towel and a face towel and a hand? I have, I have a paper towel. I have a beach towel. I ripped in half and a free towel from Pete Frady's plunge repeat. That doesn't really dry off too much.

Those ones are like the, like the, it just, it's like rain X. The water just falls off. I've had those towels for three years. That's it. I wash my asshole with them.

I dry my asshole with them. I dry my face with them. I just start from the top and work my way down, and I wash them. I don't know. I don't know. Maybe monthly. Maybe they catch a scrub monthly. They're clean.

I mean, I'm clean. It's clean water. It's clean. It's so many water. It's clean. I mean, I'm clean. It's clean water. It's clean. It's soapy water. It's clean. First, I hang it up, let it air dry like a home on the range. I'm with you on that. Towels don't get dirty.

What do you mean? Towels are dirty. It's like a bar of soap. Soap doesn't get dirty. Towels don't get dirty. No, exactly. Last voicemail. What do we got?

Hey, KFC. Fine. Super good. Super PC. Would you rather live 20,000 years or 24 hours? Well, I think we know John's answer. I mean, that's not my answer. It's one of those things that you said, I die tomorrow.

I don't want to die tomorrow, I don't think. But you don't want to live 20,000. That was such a genuine I don't think. 20,000 is a long time, brother. I don't want to make the choice. I just want it to happen. I feel you. I don't care.

I feel you. Well, I don't want $20,000, but I cannot. Whenever we do these things, I realistically am never going to sign to be dead tomorrow. Right. I'll be like, I want to live a normal life, and then I'll deal with the fact that I've got $19,900 to go. $900 and probably like $30, 30 to go for being realistic here. I mean, I guess that's the ultimate cheat code, a jack button, that if you get the stones, it might take 1,000 years to work your way up to it,

but you can get to suicide. I think by like year 12,000, I've got the balls. I can do this. 20,000 is one of those things, though. You know, I mean, 20,000 years ago, I don't know. Who's around then? I'm saying you see some shit if you're around 20,000 years.

Kevin, I was a half hour ago ranting about how school didn't teach me anything. You think I would know what 20,000 years ago was? What age was that? I don't know. I don't know. Iron Age? Bronze Age? No, it was way, way, way, way before that.

Like, you think about, like, we're in the year 2000, and then, like, Jesus was, like, four. So we're still only talking, like, a couple thousand years. Jesus was four what? Four AD. He was born four AD. Jesus Christ was born... Yeah. I mean, no, he wasn't.

Yeah. BC and AD is before Christ and after death. I know, but technically, like, yes. So it's like zero, but like they say he's actually born like four because like they fucked it up or whatever. But either way, zero, four, whatever. I'm saying that's still a 2,000 year period. That's the dumbest shit I ever heard then.

Yeah. Bro, they fucked up Jesus' birthday by four. I'm just going to Google what was around 20,000 year period. That's the dumbest shit I ever heard then. Yeah. Bro, they fucked up Jesus' birthday by... I'm just going to Google what was around 20,000 years ago. Because it's not like dinosaurs. That was like millions of years ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And people... I think you're probably looking at like a...

Like a Neanderthal. Like a Cro-Magnon or some shit like that. I don't think that was way longer ago too. Yeah? 20,000 years ago. Yeah, I mean, there are artifacts and pottery and stuff like that. Regular-ass people 20,000 years ago? Yeah.

I think you had to at least be subhuman. I mean, like, this looks like a pretty legit artifact. Yeah, but, like... Paleolithic, I guess. No, no, no, no. That's your way off. that's all 500,000 years ago paleolithic was up to 70,000 upper paleolithic was up to give me this when was the first human i'm trying to find i mean like these guys are making art 40,000 years ago so i mean

like that's pretty advanced art i feel like So that's a human. Hmm. Let's see. When was... 20,000 years ago, the culture of Levant. What? We got culture 20,000 years ago? Yeah. 21,000 years ago,

artifacts suggest human activity occurred in Canberra. Yeah, I mean, what am I talking about? Homo erectus was 1.8 million years ago. Yeah. So this is just regular-ass people 20,000 years ago, living in Canberra. Yeah, I mean, what am I talking about? Homo erectus was 1.8 million years ago. Yeah. So, this is just regular-ass people 20,000 years ago living, I mean, they're living in caves and shit, right? They're like cavemen. Yeah, but they're painting on the walls and stuff. Like, they appreciate art at that point.

They have culture. So, imagine if you lived from painting on the walls of your cave to Netflix documentaries about Oklahoma City. You'd be like, pfft. That's a lot. It's a lot. I used to think it was weird. I think our grandparents probably lived through more change than any other people ever. If you put some miles on your grandma,

one of those 105-year-old grandmas, you went from pre-industrial revolution through the computer. And you saw cars and TVs and microwaves and air conditioning. Like, you started out on a farm. You hit, like, a couple of depressions on the way. You hit ups and downs, wars. You went through both world wars, both wars that were to end all wars. You only saw, like, one Red Sox World Series.

And then saw about four more. Right, right. Like, you lived through the war to end all wars. And then they ripped about three, four more on your head. And then it wrapped up with you having like a personal computer in your own house. Like crazy. In your own fucking hand, baby. Bananas.

That's got to be a whirlwind. Imagine that times, you know, 2000. And that's tough too because they live through such a difference that like like i i think we will be able to keep up with just about anything like snapchat i don't have i don't really right but it's like the same ballpark i understand it like i i don't think there will be a technology where i'm like i don't i just don't get that right i don't like it i don't understand it but i can't even you know the same way you grandma couldn't put on it typing with like one finger like whatever it is i think or i don't know maybe this is like maybe we're being

stupid you know there's that famous quote about the guy who was like everything that has ever been invented is this is it we've maxed out like he was like there's no more to invent and it was in like the 80s like we figured everything out it's like ah no you didn't dude so maybe us being like we can handle anything what a stupid thing to say the dumbest thing in the world that may even be an urban legend to be honest that's so dumb that i don't even know it's true but we might see some shit in 70 years that's like mind-blowing i love that shit where it's like people predicted the future and stuff like that i think i buy all that nostradamus shit buy into all of it it's all fake i mean i mean more stuff that i can like you can

actually tangible and listen to like like i think uh john lennon or something like that was talking about how in the future music won't even be made with instruments. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right. It'll be just sounds and computers. You're a fucking idiot, dude. Nailed it. Smashed it. Nailed it. There was another one. I forget what the other one was.

I don't know. Blanked on it, but that one's cool. Oh, I think it was Ben Affleck with Netflix. Yeah. What? He said it was going to be streaming? Oh, Ben Affleck. What is he talking about? He's like. Oh, I think it was Ben Affleck with Netflix. Yeah. What, he said it was going to be streaming? Oh, Ben Affleck. What is he talking about? He's like, yeah, it'll be streaming services. You won't be in theaters. You won't be like, it's just you'll be watching it at your house.

And everyone's like, idiot. Okay, dude, just promote Gigli, will you? Go get a stupid tattoo. I wish I was smart. Then maybe we'd get rich. But we're dumb, so we're just here reading ads on our podcast. What do you want to do? Ocho Cinco first or Waka Waka first?

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For you to have to admit that this is a lie. Do you know how scary that is? Not knowing what you're doing? Yes, we all do. At some point, everybody loses their virginity.

I'm here with Chad Johnson, and he just told me that he lost his virginity at the age of 24, which is the biggest lie. He corrected himself. He said 27. Actually, it was 27, actually. I mean, what are we doing here? Why are you telling me these lies? I'm not lying.

What's the angle here? Is there some sort of sponsor joke you're going to make or what? No, no, no. I don't have any sponsors. You didn't have sex until you were 27? Yeah, of course. Why? Why did you wait so long?

I mean, I was nervous. I didn't know what to do. I mean, I watch YouTube. I perfected my craft now based on watching YouTube tutorials. I mean, I've watched them too. I know it. I'm a bit more active. Yeah.

I'm a bit more active. You're making up for lost time? Yes. That's why I have 85 kids. Last time we spoke to you, you were in our studio with Uncle Luke. You were pushing the Miami documentary. Liberty City Warriors. And you also revealed something about yourself that you used to be a stripper.

I did. You did. I did. That was something I feel like you had never talked about. And now here we're at the Super Bowl. We're in Atlanta. It's one of the strip club capitals of the world. For women, not men.

No. But, you know, having been in the industry yourself, what are you doing this week? Nothing. Not getting involved? No, no. You're not even dabbling? There's no money. Not even as a patron?

No. There are tens and tens of thousands of dollars that are going to be made by women this weekend. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Is that true? Like, seriously. The story is always that when the Super Bowl comes to town, there's an uptick in, like, all sex workers. Is that an urban legend or is that true?

Sex workers, strippers, anything in that area that has to do with horizontal activity. Okay. I'm talking about it's up there. I believe it. You know, and I really haven't been in that environment in a long time i'm not gonna lie like dead ass because i'm cheap as fuck if you know me but dude like i'm talking about guys going in because you have the money to do so spending 10 and 15 and 20 000 have you ever been that type no not even when i would make money yeah even when I would go out? Yeah. Even when I would go out, I would build people like that. But I'm not throwing no goddamn 15, 20 grand.

That's just stupid. I mean, you can still have a decent night in a strip club. Yeah. My decent night, you know, is a dance. Yeah.

A dance is individually 20 bucks. Yeah. See, I don't even like getting the dances. No, and then you tip. Tell them what the pants damn. I get nervous

getting the dances because here's the deal, right? So, like, if you're drunk and they're grinding up on you, right, and you're all soft and stuff, you don't want that. You don't want to show something to somebody. But see, I didn't. I block it out. I put up a wall. I make my pants really tight so you can't get to it. I like it.

I like it. I don't drink, though. So I'm always sober. Have you always been sober? Always. I don't get that. I do have a problem, though. Cigars. Yeah, your problem is you're sober. No, I mean that, too,. So I'm always sober. Have you always been sober? Always. I don't get that. I do have a problem, though. Cigars.

Yeah, your problem is you're sober. No, I mean that, too, but cigars. I smoke two and three a day. Really? Two and three a day? Since freaking my freshman year in high school. You smoke weed? No, I never had weed.

You never had weed once? I would tell you, of course. No. I smoked weed last night for the first time in a while. Man, you don't make sense. Let me just tell you something. Sorry to interrupt. You're like a star NFL wide receiver.

You don't smoke, drink, or go to strip clubs. What do I do? I play fucking FIFA. FIFA, I know. I know. All you do is fucking play FIFA. I travel. I travel around the world wherever I am, and I beat people's ass in FIFA.

Who's your team? That's my team. What's up? You good? What up, Josh? How we doing, man? Good, man. Watch out. Low bridge. Low bridge. Josh? How's it going? Josh, how we doing, man? Good, how are you, Josh? Good, man. Watch out.

Low bridge, low bridge. Josh, where are you going? You want to pop on for a second, Josh? I got some weed. You good? You good? Okay, okay. Pleasure.

You're not leaving, are you? Are we leaving or not? We got like five minutes. Five minutes. I got to get a picture before you. What's your name? T. T?

I fucking love you. My name's Ocho. Can I get a picture real quick? Is that okay? Yeah, get a picture. Yeah, man fucking love you. My name's Ocho. Can I get a picture real quick? Is that okay? Yeah, get a picture. Yeah, man. Of course. There you go, yeah.

You want to pop on? Josh, I'll get a view of your single. There you go. You guys do your thing. I'm here with Josh. We go way back. Way back. This was my quarterback.

Your quarterback. I love this. I appreciate that. Thank you. Someone, please, While I have on makeup Where's your McDonald's? I already had it You already had it?

But I need my freaking Starbucks Oh my goodness Smile over here One, two, three There you go Thank you A million dollar smiles right there It's a pleasure man

Pleasure to meet you Yeah, pleasure Continue success And all that other good shit And all that other shit. All that other shit. You get media role ready? I am not doing that.

I'm not doing that. Do what? The radio role. The radio role. Fuck that. That shit's not fun. Actually, if you've got a couple minutes, we do a video series where we answer crazy hypotheticals from our podcast.

If you've got a couple minutes. Five minutes? Yeah, I'm down. That's what she said. Thank you. They can do that while we do this? Yeah. Okay.

So we'll keep kicking it with Chad. They're moving that for you. Thank you, man. I appreciate that. You having a good week? Great week. It's going to be a little busy, but hey. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Had some fun last night. Terrible night. Are you coming through to the Ruffer Radio? I'll be at the Ruffer Radio. Oh, yeah. What are you doing tonight? No headgear. No headgear is something. You know what we do? We have an amateur boxing ring. That's tonight. Are you going through to the Ruffer Radio? I'll be at the Ruffer Radio. Oh, yeah. What are you doing tonight? No headgear. No headgear is something.

You know what we do? We have an amateur boxing ring. Yeah, I heard about it. That's tonight. You going to come through? I'll be asleep, depending on what time it is. 9.30, I'm out. 7 o'clock.

Okay, I might come. So now you don't have an excuse. I might come. You know I have my celebrity basketball game I have to do. Okay. Speaking of basketball. I have more house. I was watching last night.

What happened with T.O.? He's horrible. He can't get up no more. He's horrible. He can't get up no more. He's horrible. He never could get up. Really? He's talked everyone into believing that he can actually play the game of basketball. He could barely play receiver.

Honestly. I'm a big Niner fan growing up, so I don't know if I agree with that. T.O.'s my guy. That's my dude, man. I love him. I love him. Good dude. Can't dunk.

At all. He can't hoop, period. And I hope he sees this. T. I love him. Good dude. Good dude. At all. He can't hoop, period. And I hope he sees this. T.O. sucks. He will. I think you will. I'll get out your hair. Boss, good to see you, baby.

All right, get started. He's going to run the video with you, all right? Thanks, man. Oh, no. I've got to run, but you're hot. I'm moving. Whatever. Jai, if you guys need a receiver in Buffalo, I'm still open.

I'm still open. I don't need any money. You still have a free? For fucking free. Just have the McDonald's. Would you really for free? No. No. Are you getting paid for FIFA?

Yeah. You get your money off of sponsorship money? I'm with EA in general. Right. But is that advertising money or competing money? You beat people for money? Competing is done on my own. Right.

I do that on my own, but as far as being a part of the brand and the entity itself, yes. So do you think you'll get to a point where you are considered a professional gamer? Are you already? I would think I am because most of the people I play are the pros. I do weekend league, stuff like that. So how much money do you make off that? Who's your squad on FIFA? Napoli.

Napoli? Yeah, I play with Napoli. Dude, my Liverpool boys just kicked your ass. Who? Liverpool. Fuck no. Not a chance. But I mean,

the ultimate team, it's a variety of some of the best players. So it's different. I feel you. But yeah, head to head, I play with Napoli. And I dominate. Yeah.

I travel the world and dominate. You really do, though, right? You do that. You just show up and you're like, yo, I'm in. I've been doing that for years, though. Yo, talk to me about your neighbor, bro. Roger. Talk for Roger.

Talk for Roger. Listen. Did you know him at all? No. I didn't know what he did, obviously. Well, you know his name was Roger. I mean, because I know him on a day-to-day basis. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah? You got to smoke a cigar with him every now and then? No. I didn't know what he did. You know, obviously, but... Well, you know his name was Roger. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You smoke a cigar with him every now and then? No, never, never.

I have a question when it comes to stuff like that. Politics, I know nothing about. Politics and corruption goes hand in hand. Why are we in such an uproar when none of them ever go to jail anyway? I mean, what's the point? I mean, a lot of them are going to jail right now. No, they're not. They're not going to jail. They're going to jail? No. I mean, Manafort's going are going to jail right now. No, they're not. They're not going to jail. They're going to jail?

No. I mean, Manafort's going to jail. He's not going to get out in like 25 seconds, you're saying? Yeah. Yeah. And are we getting up and, oh my god, he's going to... No, they're not. Stuff like this has been going on for decades and decades. No doubt. No doubt. And none of them ever go to jail for real. But isn't it good that we're

finally, like, getting them? I mean, it's cool. We're getting them. But they're protected by a higher power. Oh, you believe in like the Illuminati? I believe. That's true.

Facts. The Illuminati's true? Wait, time out. Forget the Illuminati stuff. I don't know about that. Who do you think controls everything? Aliens?

No. No, I mean, being an alien. White people? Extremely powerful elitists. The 13 families who want to put all the strings. When we need to borrow money, when banks need to borrow money, No, I mean, being an... White people? Extremely powerful elitists. The 13 families for one put all the strings. When we need to borrow money, when banks need to borrow money, who do they go to?

Them. Exactly. So the person that has the money controls everything. It's always been that way, though. TV, the mass, it's always been that way. And I'm not sure why people don't even know that. I think people know that. I mean, no, they don't. Because we have CNN, we have Fox News, we have all these debates and know that. No, they don't. Because we have CNN. We have Fox News.

We have all these debates and all that. And the green light is lit from way above. Right. This is what's going to happen. This is how it's going to go down. Bingo. And TV and Jesse control the masses. I agree with that.

Do you watch TV? No, not really. I just play FIFA. You just play FIFA. That's it. You don't have a favorite TV show? Not one? Listen, all the old school. Martin, of course, obviously. You just play FIFA. That's it. You don't watch a, like you don't have a favorite TV show? Not one? Listen,

all the old school. Martin, of course, obviously. You familiar with Good Times? Yeah. Older. Before my generation, but I know it. Stanford and Son.

I don't know why I like, I'm so glad you said that. I've recently gotten to Bird Box. Okay. Phenomenal. Maybe you got into it. It's a two hour movie. Based on Twitter,

they put me up on Netflix. Yeah. Dude. You like it? Did you see You? Yeah, that shit's fucked up, right? Freaking Joe. I haven't seen You.

You said what? You was awesome. Yeah, that shit was creepy. Perfect Strangers. What's that one? You didn't see that with Holly Berry? No. Oh, wait.

Yeah, yeah. She gets a kidnap or whatever? No, that's a different one. That's a different one. Perfect Strangers. And my favorite of all, they put me on freaking Tommy fucking Shelby. Yeah, yeah. She gets a kidnap or whatever? No, that's a different one. That's a different one. Perfect Strangers. And my favorite of all, they put me on freaking Tommy fucking Shelby. Oh!

Peaky! You're on a Peaky fucking Blondie! Yes! That's what's up. I'm on season two right now. Like episode six. That might be my favorite show on TV right now. It's as good as it gets.

And it takes forever for it to get to us because I got to air it over there first. So it takes like two years for the new season to come out. Oh, is that what it is? It airs in the BBC over there and then it comes to Netflix like months later. That shit is fire. Tommy Shelby, dude.

He's the most badass dude on TV. When I first started, all I could think about was freaking McGregor for some reason. I don't know why. I got to watch with the subtitles on

because I can't understand it. I got to. I can't understand Arthur for sure. No, I mean Arthur. Arthur and Tom Hardy's character? Nothing. I got nothing. Alfie.

Yes, Alfie's all nothing. I don't know what the hell he said. I mean, Alfie, you're not supposed to understand what he said. Yeah, I think he's doing it on purpose. It's crazy how he gargled everything he said.

He's got marbles in his mouth, man. Yeah, that was great. So you're just going to spend Adidas money for the rest of your life, you think? I probably could. That's probably it, right? I feel like just going to spend Adidas money for the rest of your life, you think? I probably could. That's probably it, right? I feel like you could live on Adidas money and the rest you just put away in the bank.

Basically. Basically. I mean, that's what I did during my career anyway. Yeah? You never spent your game checks? No. My TV money. What I was doing, you know, the shows, the commercials at that point.

What do you think about Antonio Brown and his decisions right now? I mean, I don't make judgment on anyone's personal decisions that they, you know, have to live with and what they want to do with their personal life. From a football standpoint, I understand what he's going through. You know, you can put yourself in his shoes in a sense. The public probably can't. The fans that are still the fans probably can't. As a, just a, from a receiving standpoint of wanting to

get out of the situation, I get it. Why do you think fans always side with the ownership rather than the player? I mean, the owner's a billionaire. Because they see it differently.

The player is a blue-collar player. As fans, they are dedicated to their team. Right. You know, and there's some fans that get it though. logically, like, blue-collar player. As fans, they are dedicated to their team. Right. If you think about it logically, why am I siding with a billionaire? I'm siding with a guy who's literally a blue-collar worker. He's paid a lot, but it's a blue-collar job.

I don't think you see the owner being a billionaire. I think you see the player being a millionaire. You see the chains, the clothes, the swag. What do you think if it was every year? It's knowing what you make. What you you make every year people know what your salary is you think they should start announcing what the owner makes every year too i think it's it's it's googleable is it yeah it's googleable i don't think that's a word but you can find it's googleable i like that uh what about um why why why do you think the wide receiver position is often, you know,

either has the diva moniker or are they actually divas? Anything with personality, anything that speaks out, anything that doesn't conform to how they think you should be, whatever they may be, you know, media, fans, media, whatever. Anything with personality, oh, it's a diva. Or when you speak out, oh, he's disgruntled.

They want you to be a political robot. So you think that wide receivers just have more personality? Yeah, they do. It's always been that way. Why is that? I have no idea. Because you guys are catching touchdowns? That too. So much depends on so much for that to even happen. It's just funny that there seems to always be one or two guys in the league that are... Out there.

You know, the celebration. And they tend to be the best. Yeah. Yeah. The best ones. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's why you were so fucking high profile, man. That was okay.

Why do you think it took T.O. so long to get into the Hall? I don't know. Politics, man. That was more so personal. Right. We all know that. For whatever reason, but he's in now. You think you're going in? I should.

You should. Michael Irvin. You should. Michael Irvin. The Hall is based on accolades, based on what you did on the field, right? Mm-hmm. Should be. Michael Irvin's numbers and mine are identical.

It's the same thing. So you can't add, well, he won three Super Bowls. Well, I don't control that as an individual. Right. You know, I tried to help get to that point, but we didn't do it.

But from a personal standpoint, my numbers are the same. Exactly. So therefore, I would be in one day. And that's my fucking argument. That's a very sound argument. That's a very sound argument.

All right, man. We're going to wrap up. We're going to have you do this video as well. You down? Where? We're going to stand in front of the green screen. We're going to wrap up. We're going to have you do this video as well. You down? Where? We're going to stand in front of the green screen. We're going to ask you some fucked up questions.

Let's fucking go. Ocho. You're not a virgin. You were not a virgin until you were 27. I don't get it. I don't know what the joke is. You were a professional athlete by the age of 27. You formerly played at the U.

You fucked girls your entire life. I think Ocho Cinco lost his virginity when he was like 11. I mean. Tell me you believe him. I don't believe him, but I don't know. I think he was a late bloomer. Yeah, I could see him being a late bloomer for sure. I mean.

That's how you get that kind of attitude too. I think a good amount of athletes were that late bloomer type. What? Tom Brady. A lot of the greats. What? Why did he bloom? Tom Brady?

Oh, you just mean, like, his glow-up type shit? Yeah. Like, specifically losing your virginity. Oh, no, no, no. I just mean, like, you have that. I think being a late bloomer puts that chip on your shoulder. What do you think Tom Brady's body count is? I have no idea. I think, yes. I think he was, bloomer puts that chip on your shoulder. What do you think Tom Brady's body count is? I have no idea. I think he was slaying.

I don't get that impression. But he was. He was a backup, but fine. He was playing football at Michigan. He wasn't a backup. He was split time. Right. But he won a Rose Bowl.

Yeah, he's not like a fucking loser. But I just feel like he ran through Tara Reid. He lands through Giselle. And I could just see it being not that many, relatively speaking. I have no idea. I would guess 200. Would you? I don't think so.

I don't know why. I think that's high. I don't know why. Because he's such a weirdo. He's the coolest guy in the world. I don't think he was at Michigan just being like, let's fuck. I don't know why.

Maybe I'm dead wrong. I think Tom Brady's fucked six girls. It's time for Gary V. You want to talk a little football? You want to talk a little entrepreneur life? You want to talk to the newest client of his on VaynerSports? Geronimo, our boy Gmo, sat down for a while. Interesting Super Bowl topic. Good conversation

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I know. He's never casual. He's always fucking trying too hard. Insecurity. Look at this. We've been trying too hard. Dude, you're super insecure.

Check, check, check. One, two, one, two. John's trying too hard. I must say, I gotta say, the missus been trying to get me some pants like that. Yeah?

I gotta say, I gotta say, she has been trying to get me some pants. You want to give us a hug? Nice. I actually like it. I to say, the missus has been trying to get me some pants like that. Yeah? I got to say, she has been trying to get me some pants. You want to give us a present? Nice. I actually like them. I got to say, they are a little swaggy. All right, we got a little Super Bowl edition of KC Radio, joined once again by our guy Gary Vaynerchuk.

And alongside him is his boy Geronimo. G-Mo is on the VaynerSports label. So, you know, you guys are doing big things as always, huh? We're trying. Yeah. No, we're doing it. I like GMO. You are smart.

I like GMO. Because if there's one dude I would, if I could ink my name down with him and his company, it would be this guy right here. Well, I appreciate that. You're doing big things. We're here at the Super Bowl, obviously. And I got to ask you, Gary. Yes.

Do you think we'll ever be here for the right reasons? A hundred thousand percent. You optimistic idiot. you, Gary, do you think we'll ever be here for the right reasons? 100,000%. You optimistic idiot. No, no, and you'll appreciate this. Like, I think you know this. I'm not optimistic. You can go search eight Jeff draft picks on YouTube where my brother and I are booing the fucking result.

Like, I'm not optimistic. I've cried on the announcement of a new head coach, but in this scenario, I am. I think Adam Gaze is going to dominate New York City. I do. I really do. I fully believe it. You're crazy. I'm not.

You know what the best part about this is? Here's the best part. The amount of times I'm going to clip you doing that when we win a Super Bowl in your fucking mouth is going to be remarkable. He said that so many times about me. I got good news. I'm going to clip you doing that. When we win a Super Bowl in your fucking mouth, it's going to be remarkable. He said that so many times about me. Guess what? I got good news.

I'm not this fucking dude. We're rooting for the same thing. I love you. I'm just saying I'm not you. We're rooting for the same fucking thing. I love you. But guess what? We're in the same fucking boat.

I know what boat we're in. I know exactly the boat we're on. Even if you were high on gays. Yes. When he had that press conference, were you not like, what the fuck is going on? Was completely unfazed.

Could give a fuck about anything other than the way he coaches. How about his time in Miami? What about his time? How did he finish? If you take into account a head coach that had his starting quarterback miss half his time in three years, I think he finished remarkably well. I also think if you show me a head coach that is considered starting quarterback miss half his time in three years, I think he finished remarkably well.

I also think if you show me a head coach that is considered a quarterback guru that everybody wants to say, well, just Manning, and you look at his John Kitna and Brock Osweiler data, I think you'll find out that he extremely well. And, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, I think if you actually talked to human beings that played for him,

and everybody who played for him last year, I think you'd have a different take. And so the reality is, somebody's gonna be right and somebody's gonna be wrong, and that's fine. That's what's beautiful about this stuff. The Patriots fans. The Patriots fans are almost exclusively right.

Well, there's collateral damage where a team does something, and then people jump on that to try to drive their self-esteem. I'm thrilled that you feel good about something somebody else does that's just not how I that was

that was like a sub tweet right in person how do you get Max Kellerman so for me so for me like I'm thrilled that Patriot fans feel like

they're right on something they have nothing to do with and that's really nice if you want to live your life like that bro it's fucking let me tell you if you want to live your life like that, bro. Let me tell you what, Gary. It is fantastic living life like this. This is my third Super Bowl in a row.

I got my post-game party passes already. I'm ready to get gassed up on Sunday night. It's a solid way to live life. I fucking hate him. I hate him so much. Listen, I would love it too. I got a question. Please. You're a hustler. You always talk about grinding and stuff like that. So odds came out today that I am the Vegas favorite to be arrested next.

How much money? Let's make a deal. You put money down. You front me my money. I'm betting the field. You're betting the field? Dude, somebody just got arrested right now. I'm in full control of getting arrested.

No, no, no. The next person in a bar is full. Oh, definitely. Yeah, I'll back you. Let's take care of that tonight. Let's go to HM right now. I got arrested. No, no, no, the next person at Barstool. Oh, definitely. Yeah, I'll back you. Let's take care of that tonight. Let's go to HPE. I got you. Whatever you need.

No fucking problem. Tell me about your hustle. One of the reasons that we at VaynerSports got really about you is kind of your college transition to where you are now. How does it go from, how do you think the difference is of a player that goes to a big time program

versus one that doesn't? Now that you've been in the league for a little while like what's your perspective on that variable is that a chip on the shoulder is it a fundamental disadvantage how did it work for you paint some context for everybody at home that doesn't know what it is it's the exposure and it's the people and it's a network that you get involved in going from a little school or a big school, you're around. Where'd you go? I went to Illinois. I went to Illinois, came out of JUCO, out of junior college.

So the exposure wasn't always broad. But when you have opportunities to go against people like Ohio State, Iowa, you know, Nebraska, those are the ones that got the exposure for the Big Ten. So you take advantage of opportunities like that so they get placed in a platform where they can excel kind of right away guys that have to struggle and kind of go through a little grind and a little upbringing you find yourself in a situation where you have to understand that this is still an opportunity not that we're on a back

burner and we have to make something out of nothing but you you still have an opportunity. But if you don't understand that and learn how to take advantage of it, you won't. And see, that's why Chimo's a winner because he had adversity. But you, you've rooted for teams that always win. So no adversity. I was miserable. First of all, I'm rooting for a team right now

that's an underdog. Ah! Just to be clear about it. This is the most infuriating thing in the world. This fucking underdog and I know I know what they're doing and I take the bait every time because it drives me

fucking insane I mean that's what Gmo was saying that didn't even be a joke Gmo's talking about the chip on his shoulder I'm like I know exactly what you mean

I'm living it right now I got a chip on my shoulder people have been doubting the past I'm fucking nauseating. Who's the favorite in the Super Bowl? The past, but they weren't the start. They didn't start as a favorite.

The Rams were the favorite. They've been counted out all year just like GMO. Come on, man. Get out of here. You talked about surrounding yourself with the right people. Yeah. What made you sign up with this idiot? First and foremost, I didn't feel he was an idiot

but it was an opportunity and a platform for me to take advantage of what i wanted to do was be connected with people that give me an opportunity to be around exposure you know like people don't know my story or understand my story or even understand me personally if they don't get a chance to be around me and see me. And so, Vendor Sports is killing it. Like I said, we're not doing it. We are.

We're not going to do it. We're trying to do it. We are doing it. So, that exposure that Gary Vee offered me and AJ and the marketing team, like, I was like, yeah, I'm with it. Like, y'all guys want me. I want you. Let's do it.

How do you think about it? You know, it's interesting. I'm thinking about like you had those one or two games that you knew the country would be watching in college. Right. And then I think about this last season, Monday, you know, first game Sunday night. Like, obviously, AJ and I are hyped. Right. And we know you're going to get some opportunities.

And then, you know, back to like this whole connection. I tweet. I'm like, tonight, the country is going to know what this name is. And then you have that big touchdown pass. How do you think about those moments when you know it actually matters versus every game matters, every snap matters, there's film, everyone's watching everything. But clearly the macro, when all of us in this room are watching

because it's the Sunday night game, is there a different level of mindset that you go into? Definitely. So as a player, I can honestly say I transitioned in turning a switch on and off. Guys that get put in a primetime game rather than a regular game, you know how to excel in that regular game. But when you're in that prime time moment, it's prime time for a reason.

All eyes are on you. So you got to do your thing. You want to give it your all, regardless at any given time, but when you're on prime time, it's like, nah, if I make one little catch, one little juke move,

and everybody's going to see it. You can make a difference. Everybody's going to see it. So that's the thing with social media. It's like you guys with your episodes, right? Just flat out. The reality is if you know that there's

a guest coming on that has a huge audience that you're going to get a lot of new eyes on. Pressure's on. There's a difference. Everybody takes it different but there's an awareness

to that's happening. That's what it is. And that's that. Yeah, we plan our episodes around that. We know we have this guest so we got to have our best material

alongside that guest and make sure that we... Let me just say this real quick. I'm so happy for you that. Like, all right, we know we have this guest. We got to have our best material alongside that guest and make sure that we, let me just say, I'm so happy for you guys. Thanks. Yeah. That makes one of us, I think.

Yeah. I really, really, really like you guys. Everyone can say that he's one person. That's cool. It's,

you know, it's, it feels, uh, three in a row now here. It's like the first couple of Super Bowls were a little more like novelty or a big deal.

And now it's just like, Hey, we're going to be here every, every year. Cause it's just, and you're a big deal. And now it's just like, hey, we're going to be here every year because it's just who we are now. And you're a big brand, right? It's like, you know, it's the same old thing, right? You come up and it's like this little thing on the side and just now you're like the brand. Where do you stand on Goodell? You'll appreciate this answer.

I'm not sure. And that might be the answer in itself. I haven't spent a whole lot of time. I don't appreciate that answer. I think you should be very clear. Fine, so let me be very clear. When you have 32 billionaires and those egos as your bosses,

and then on the other side, you have the popularity of the fans, you are in a fucking tough spot. So what do I think? I have empathy. On the flip side, I'm a big believer of disproportionate over-communicating. So if you're asking me for a hot take

of what could he have done better over the last half decade, I think feeling transparent, let alone being transparent, would be a great start. It feels too polished PR. And it feels defects. He says he is transparent, which is flat out lying. By the way, that's fine.

And I'm not, you know, whatever. To me, your fucking dick-faced quarterback says you're the underdogs. Nobody believes it. So the reality is that, you know, like people are going to say shit. People are going to say shit. He was picked 199 in the sixth round. By the way, he is. That's an underdog.

By the way, I believe that. That I believe. Nonetheless, that's my read on him. He's in a shit spot. But like when he was like, he was saying just the other day where he like, he was just flat out lying to the public where at his press conference, he's saying that, you know, he talked to the saints and he talked to the players and Michael Thomas came out right away.

He's like, he didn't talk to us. Like, so I think he botched that whole saints thing. I don't know what the right answer was. He demands of every player. He demands that they do a press conference after every game that they talk to the media, that they answer for what they did. But he doesn't like, shouldn't he perhaps when he preaches? You got to conference after every game, that they talk to the media, that they answer for what they did. Not him. But he doesn't.

Not him. You've got to be smart about this, right? Not him. There's a lot of issues that we don't talk about. Players care about money. Everybody cares about money. There's a lot of things that I've watched a lot of players do in the last three or four years where I'm like, wow, they're compromising for the dollar bill in a way that is uncomfortable to me. And so I'm not going to sit here, like players do press conferences because the TV contracts are paying these guys

the kind of money they're getting. The exposure matters. Goodell's not meeting. But it's demanded in their contract, in the NFL contract. They want the money. There's a lot of things demanded in their contract. They show up for fucking training.

Like to me. That's not demanded, that's bonus. No, no. You're talking about minicamp, like training camp, they need to be there. So the reality is very simply like listen

I didn't see any of the saints of but the reality is that if he's gonna come out and say I spoke to every player and Michael Thomas is like

he didn't speak to me that's a vulnerability if he said I spoke to the players and he spoke to two fucking captains then you start getting into semantics

right let me ask you so as a player, and you as a superfan. I thought you were talking about life. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. As a superfan and as a player, if you were on the wrong side of that

Saints call, I mean, I would literally never stop talking about it every single day of my life. I would do nothing but complain. I would have a podcast specifically about that every single day of my life. Let's talk about but complain. I would have a podcast specifically about that every single day of my life. Let's talk about the call. Let's talk about the Saints call. But I would also,

and I'll let Jibo jump in in a second, but I would also, if I was a Rams fan, only talk about the face mask on the drive before. Because the reality is, every play there's fucking penalties. I understand what happened. Emotions are high,

but we need to be sure that we don't overreact and start employing some sort of rules. If we start reviewing subjective calls in the last two minutes of football, please God,

please God, make sure that that's not where we're going this year. Would you be a part of this class action lawsuit? Loss of happiness of life? Definitely not. I would.

Because I'm not. Well, of course you would. You're a fucking patriot. I want to sue everybody. You think outside sources. We're writers here,, of course you would. You're a fucking patriot. I want to sue everybody. Why would you get out of my way? You think outside sources. We're writers here, Gary. We're crying.

You're in a class. I'm a hustle for it. Now, you think outside sources affect your happiness. I mean, I want to sue everybody. I want to sue the Mets, the Jets. Outside sources. I want to sue Dolan. I need to sue Dolan.

That's all. That's it. That's all right. This is just wasted. Hot take as a player. If I was on a real. Give me a real fucking take on this. Like, would you go like Michael Thomas now where he's just quote tweeting all the time being like, they fucked us, they screwed us, blah, blah, blah.

Who else? I forget. A couple other players are getting that. No, I wouldn't. Honestly, if I was on the wrong end of that call, me personally, I would want it to go my way. I would want that to be called the proper way. Honestly, that they didn't really discuss it how they should have.

You know, if they would have just made a decision and understood what just took place, I think nobody wanted that ownership of it. Nobody wanted to get involved in that. What would you do as VaynerSports? Let's say this call goes hit the wrong way. He's on Twitter. He's going fucking crazy.

Are we going crazy? He's talking shit. He's going nuts. What do you do? You know, listen, from my perspective, you got to let humans be humans. You know, listen. From my perspective, you gotta let humans be humans. You know, like, obviously, you may say, hey,

just so you know what you're getting yourself into, this is the look, but we're not in, like, boxing people in to, like, this is our mandate. We're gonna let our guys be our guys and always support them with offense. Look, the reality is,

I also think there's no empathy for these refs. I, as a fan who watches unlimited fucking football, when it was in real time, it did not feel as egregious as it was in the replay. That's fine. Listen, I'm telling you what I think. You tell me what you think. So, this game, look, I think in the macro,

we need to start thinking about, if this is gonna be an issue for everybody, we need to start thinking about how many refs need to be involved, who, like what kind of athletes should refs be. This shit's fast. It's getting real fast. You have like old-ass men out there.

You know what I mean? It's crazy, right? I mean, he was standing right there. That's not the best example, but just a general overhaul on the whole system when it's like old dudes who are, you know, who are either kind of like tenured in or don't have anything, you know, no responsibility, no culpability. There's bad calls. One of our best playoff runs happened because of bad calls. I mean, like, Vinny Testamorti was eight yards short of that end zone.

Right? True story. I mean, so, like, you know, the fucking bullshit that we had to deal with with the Patriots-Jets game two or three years ago with ASJ's touchdown, they somehow called a fucking touchback. Right call. There's shit. Right call.

There's shit. Rebs never fuck up. That was. Right call. There's shit. Right call. There's shit. Raps never fuck up. That was a perfect call. There's shit. By the way, that stunning defeat that the Patriots took that Brady brought up again this week because it's the one that hurts them the most when they lost to the Jets at home after they beat us 45-3. Beautiful. There's a stunning bad call in that game.

The first field goal we kicked was good. They called it no good. After the David Harris pick of the atrocious pass that Tom Brady made When we stunned the Patriots in their mouth In their house in Foxborough And after we won I spit on that fucking stadium With my saliva

For 20 fucking minutes While I watched everybody leave that stadium I've won two Super Bowls since then I believe you almost have I tried to fight a child that night too Was that Pittsburgh? No, that was way earlier That was way earlier.

Where are we on the, uh, where are we on the quest to buy the jets? We got a little like, dude, it's going to save his account that you make a monthly transfer into. I'm putting it all in. There's only one way I can pull off this thing. I got to put it all back in to the system and keep churning it.

And then I genuinely believe I can buy them in 20 to 25 years. I really believe I might be dead by that it's crazy it's crazy that he it's crazy that I'm sitting here and he says that because one of our first conversations

we talked about investing and stuff and he told me straight up I'm not the one you want to talk with as far as investing because I'm going to put all my chips in the basket

talk to my brother AJ so for him to say for him to say he will put it all in with the jazz I believe him I believe him and by the way that was a it all in with the Jets, I believe him, I believe him. At first. And by the way, that was a big factor in VaynerSport.

For me, what's been so great, even, just like, it's unbelievable how much more I know, and I was a super fan, it was my life, it's the, that's not my family, like, the New York Jets is then business, like, and just now being on the inside, the empathy, this is what I always love, and this is back to like all of what

we were kind of talking about, like, when you have empathy for the other party, getting this close to the player's side, and look, I'm a loud mouth, I'm a force. Not only do I plan on buying the Jets, I plan on winning Super Bowls, but more importantly, I plan on being a fundamentally important owner, and I think that what, at that point, it will take

is to have the league be disproportionately player-friendly because I think that what at that point it will take is to have the league be disproportionately player friendly because I think that's your asset. In the same way that I run my companies, I'm employee friendly because it's the asset. And so I'm excited about some of those nuances as well. What are your thoughts on Brody Van Wagenen going from agent to GM

over in the Mets? Are you a baseball guy at all? I grew up a huge baseball guy but then the Yankees won in 96. Charlie Hayes catches the ball and I'm out. And so I was a Jersey 80s kid, so I was a mix. I know that hurt your feelings. Your whole thing is like once they win, you're out, right? Some shit like that?

That's right. I'm just Jetsnicks now because the Rangers and Yanks won. You jump off winning bandwagons. That's right. You're the anti-fair weather. I'm an actual winner in life. That was really fucking mean to look me in the eye when you said that. The best part was I looked you directly in the face Got it. That was really fucking mean to look me in the eye when you said that. The best part was

I looked you directly in the face, too. It wasn't even like... You looked me in the eye. You looked into my soul. You're like, yeah, no, I've been in life. All right, bro.

God, I'm so bitter. It's unbelievable. I'm such a happy human, but when I come into content, I'm so bitter being here looking at all the happiness from all these Patreons. Anyway, nonetheless, I think it's cool.

And honestly, obviously we saw it happen on the Lakers front. It's something in the air. And I do think about, is anybody at VaynerSports ever going to make that transition? It's cool. And then it's, you could be a fucking GM, right? NFL Network to being a GM. It's interesting that you're starting to see different paths, which I'm sure

is inspiring a lot of young men and women on, wait, I might be able to take an untraditional path because there are so many people out there that dream about running an organization. That's cool. I can actually make it happen. I believe you can do it. Yeah, everybody believes it.

Now the opportunity can be there. What do you think about it? You're nervous or excited? I'm always nervous about it. I think that there definitely is some weird conflict of interest shit going on. I will always assume the worst and expect the worst. And I think that he's made a couple moves, but the one big move he needs to make is staring him in the face, and he's not making it. And I think that means he's just a puppet for the owners, once again,

like everyone before him. Was that Machado? Yeah, Machado or Harper. I mean, they made all the right moves to build the foundation. They need a big primetime player either in the outfield or in the infield. Both of them are available.

He should be making the move and he's not so that tells me that the owners are still pulling the strings and he's just a puppet. Well, owners pull the strings in almost every situation.

Of course. They're very much at all. The Wilpons are always fucking involved. The little weasels, they just get involved when they shouldn't be and that's just never going to change.

Can you buy the Mets, Stu? I definitely have no interest in that franchise. Just for me. I'll run it. The Knicks are my backup player. But the NBA exploded. We'll do like you go 99 and I'll go 1 and we'll figure it out. Can you step up for the 1?

We can go like.01. Can you get there? I gotta go to this VaynerSports event. We're doing a meet and greet with a bunch of our guys. I like.01. Can you get there? Probably not. Probably not. All right, I got to go to this VaynerSports event. We're doing a meeting with a bunch of our guys. Appreciate you coming through. Thanks a lot, man. Thank you, guys.

Thank you so much. Congrats. Hope you enjoy the weekend. It's good to see you. We have like two minutes to do a quick video. You got to roll right in. Can I do a one-minute video, bro? Yeah, one minute.

You just got to... We got a couple minutes. Scotch and soda, by the way, for the pants. Get them some. scotch and soda by the way for the pants