KFC Radio - Pat Explains The Gifts and Curses of Working With Joey Camasta - Full Episode

Episode Date: November 21, 2022

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I'm anxiously awaiting. I almost like I can do Chick-fil-A. That means I can get out of it. Dude, this is your fault because you walked in and you grabbed this cup and you looked in it like you were looking for something. And I was like, all right, we'll do some whiskey. Listen, I'm not going to turn down a drink. I never have. I never will.

Now she will drink. Now she will drink. I was thinking about that the other day. No ice. Just straight neat. I was thinking about that the other day. No ice. Just straight neat. I was thinking about that the other day. I don't know why I was thinking about this. In fact, I was having this conversation with myself in the mirror.

We're like, and this probably sounds like slut explanation, but I think it's rude to say no to people, and I think that with drinking, I think that with sex, I think it's rude to say no to people, and I think that with drinking, I think that with sex. I think it's like – If someone offers me a drink, you want to have sex? I don't – That backfired so fast. All I have to do is ask.

He said to me before – Cheers. We were talking kind of like we do our Me too too revolution For the men He knows what he's doing Okay And we've talked about My boy's coming To Nickelback tonight

We've talked about how You know There are girls Who are like Who have had sex with guys They don't have sex with And John was like Well

If you count all the women I wanted to have sex with It's only like I've had sex three times With count all the women I wanted to have sex with, it's only like a couple. I've had sex three times. With people you want? I never want to have sex with people I have sex with. I've probably had sex with three women I wanted to have sex with. So it's like, ladies, pipe down.

We're all fucking, if everybody was fucking the people they wanted to be fucking, we'd all be happy. Ooh, I'm telling you, that whiskey warms you right up. Dude, that's the smell of Whistlepig goes through me. Yeah, no, I i have like most of the sex i've had has just been me settling yeah yeah it's not been me right right it's not like oh my god it's happening it's like all right i guess when you do they're okay yeah like i mean i remember i remember it's funny to go through like the majority of your life as a dude who's like take what you can get yeah i hope you get a number and you hope you get

lucky and you hope that you have some sex. And then you get in a situation like this where it becomes a little bit easier. In a situation like this, you're in the middle of the tube, two gentlemen having some whiskey on Friday. It's noon, mind you, by the way. No, it's like two

o'clock, bro. I've had Pink Whitney and now I'm having this. Oh, you've already been drinking today? Oh, yeah. We did our Thanksgiving show, and I was like, if I'm going to eat apple pie, I'm going to drink. What, am I going to have a pie sober? Yeah, and I have Chick-fil-A on the way. How do you reconcile that?

What do you mean? Chick-fil-A, a bunch of gay-hating. I don't care. I hate myself. I hate gay. It's like, I am you mean? Chick-fil-A, a bunch of gay hating. I don't care. I hate myself. I hate gay. It's like, I am with you, Chick-fil-A. That's the most homophobic person I know. Actually, everyone at this company is gay.

No, Joey is the most homophobic. Zach, Pat, Joey. You guys are all fucking homophobic. We made him squirm today in our fucking show, Zach. We go, oh, another faggot. And his face got so red and he was just like no

and Joey goes bottoming tonight dear and it was just the whole thing just took off here's my chick filet my pig filet coming in

two minutes away where do you guys have going this weekend wait but I was gonna say I'm going to see the music man oh he's so gay he's going to see the music man he he's so gay He's going to a show

With his mother on Broadway Oh tonight you are? Tomorrow night Oh I was gonna say Tonight we're going to Nickelback Nickelback and Broadway You are getting gayer by the minute He tries to like convince

He knows all the things That'll like get me to go He's like here's some booze I was like it's an hour ten away He's like well Here's what I'm gonna do I'm gonna get a big SUV. We're going to have a couple beers on the way.

I go, just beers? He's like, well. He goes. It'll be a party bus. Yeah, but it's just going to be me and John, which is going to be weird. And don't get me wrong. There's two bros at Nickelback. We've had a lot of those nights where we're just looking at each other across the room

like, who's going to end it first? Bro, we're going to have Billy Football is going to come. Is he? Which means Joey Camas is going to come. He'd be eating Billy Coors Lights all night. I have another. Another tipple, why don't you? My boyfriend didn't even respond when I told him about Nickelback.

He's going to be like, we're done. You're ditching me for a Nickelback concert? Bro, no Nickelbacks later. I know. I about Nickelback, he's going to be like, we're dumb. You're ditching me for a Nickelback concert? Bro, no Nickelbacks later. I know. I love Nickelback. Everyone loves Nickelback. We had the boys on yesterday. How great was that?

It was so funny. Going into it, I was like, I'm going to just straight up ask them, what's it like to be one of the most hated bands of all time? I was like, I'm going to do it. By the way, this episode will be out tomorrow Right right right So this will be a little preview for it I

And And we sit down And they Are all like so nice And I also For whatever reason I think And I kind of confirmed this later in the interview

But I just got the vibe That they don't really Like Talking about it much Like he He eventually says About the hate Right

Yeah So I I can just see it being It wears on you And that's actually a hard place too like talking about it much. He eventually says, like, yeah, pretend you're talking about it. About the hate? Right. It's not that I don't like talking about it. I can just see it being, it's what matters. It wears on you. And that's actually a hard place too for an interviewer

because I have to bring it up. This is what people want to hear. I have to bring it up. I get that it's all you talk about. It sucks. Not that it sucks because they roll with it so well, but I get you've done this

literally a hundred thousand times. And it's like, I've never seen a Nickelback interview and there's a bunch of people who haven't and so when they they're gonna watch a nickelback interview they're gonna want to hear you gotta ask so i'm like all right i'm just gonna do it and then i like look them in the eyes and i'm like you can take that call if you want yeah we don't care i just gotta pick up it's my chick fly yeah can you can you grab his it's at the door so i'm like okay i'm just gonna do it and was like, you guys are one of the most unique bands.

My boys said unique five times in one sentence. You went full Barbara Walters? Everyone fucking hates you because you're corny. That's the whole thing. What? No, that's the argument. I don't think that. I'm saying that's online.

That's where the hate generates from. They gave us the etymology of it. Check out tomorrow's episode to find out. I actually want to hear There's specifics Of where it started And yeah That's a little bit repetitive

And it's a little bit like corny But I was like You know You're a unique band In that you came To like To prominence During the internet

And the internet can be good It can be bad What a leader That's a pro But it wasn't Like eventually Eventually I went on too long Kroger was like

He's like just say it He goes Just pop the clutch And fucking do it dude And I was like Thank god Just fucking let me off This fucking

Roller goes there Can you tease What Where it comes from Like the hate Or you just want to wait The Colin Quinn show What was it

Tough crowd I think it was What you were referencing I almost said it We were talking about it Beforehand Somebody I don't know if it's Colin Quinn Or someone on the show Says something like I think it was what you were referencing. I almost said it. We were talking about it beforehand. Somebody, I don't know if it's Colin Quinn or someone on the show,

says something like, Nickelback makes me want to kill myself. Remember that? Oh, oh. That was the joke. It was like. What was it? Should I not put this up here? Yeah, it was a punch. It was a funnier joke than that, but the punchline was like,

it was something about like blah, blah, blah, suicide. Well, like music makes you want to do suicide whatever Nickelback makes you want to kill myself yes yes and so it was a funny joke but he they said that's all they probably fucking used to watch Conklin's coming on our show out about it's probably gonna do yours too yeah you guys watch uh did you watch tough crowd back in the day no like I've seen like, Dennis Leary, Greg Giraldo. Like, that was, like, an all-time comedians. Because they'd come on, and Colin Quinn would just bait them.

Yep. And it would just be head-to-head. Greg Giraldo and Dennis Leary had one of the most famous back-and-forths. If they pulled that off now, it would be huge. Right. All these comedy podcasts, if there was one show that was, like, it's kind of what Rogan does when he has one of them on. But if it was, like, we're going to have a round table and it's going to be Segura and Burt versus fucking, you know.

Patricio Nils Hologram. If they did the act. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It would be, you know, a smash hit. And I think it did fine on Comedy Central, but it's not like it obviously didn't explode. But that's a show where you can be like, I had a good time for sure. I'm a little nervous about – we've had a couple guests lately. The guests are getting – it's like a trickle-down effect.

It's like once they can pitch that you've had these people on, other people see they're on and they want to come on. So we're getting guys like Michael Irving, and I don't get nervous, but I'm like, holy fuck. I was like, Michael Irvin Is on my show I like how you said His name right the second time Yeah Irving the first time Irving Magic Johnson

What is he A football player I go hey bitch Those are actually Some of my favorite interviews When it's a megastar Who you don't care about Like one of my favorites

To this day Is Luke Bryan I love Luke Bryan. I thought we were just the boys hanging out. Because we were like, what's up, bud? Luke Bryan's a fucking host of American Idol. Yeah. And it was just like, I don't know.

I don't really like Luke. I don't dislike Luke Bryan, but it's like, I don't know him. That's not my world. The best spot to be. Yeah. You'll ask any question. Right, right. 100%.

You don't, like, get scared. It humanizes them. Yeah, you're just like, that's cool for you, dude. But where was I? I was at a bar once, and fuck, I think somebody on the Jets was there, and this one girl was like, you know, people were like bugging out,

and she was like, oh, this guy, I don't give a fuck. She rolled right over to him and was like, so what's your deal? And he was like, whoa, like who is this? And she eventually got pictures

for all of her friends or whatever it was because she was just like, I don't give a fuck. But that can go both ways. Like if you, if someone's going out of their way to let you know that they don't know you, then that's almost more like you're a dick. I know you know I'm someone and you're doing this on purpose, so fuck you.

But when it's a genuine like, you know. I think there's a story about Jay-Z riding the subway. The subway with the old lady. Who also was famous. She was? Yeah. Who was that? I mean, not famous. Obviously, juxtaposed with Jay-Z. The subway with the old lady Who also was famous She was? She's not famous Obviously juxtaposed with Jay-Z

But she's an artist in her own right I forget her name But that is one of the more I hate wholesome content alert But that is one of the more videos I'll go back and watch that sometimes She's like oh you sold out Barclays? That's very good for you

Are you famous? I'm Jay-Z I know Jay-Z You're him? It is so Downright adorable Jay-Z. He's like, I know Jay-Z. You're him? And it was like, it was so, that was adorable. Jay-Z's throat fucks are on the sub-blog. And that's why we have Pat on. I want to talk about your podcast and how Out and About has fucking exploded.

Yeah, it's been good. I mean, is it even a year? Less than a year. I basically half-assed it for three months. When I started, I was like, what am I doing here? I'm alone. And then we got Joey in. He came in.

Yeah, Joey ripped you out of the closet, bro. Oh, my God. You were the straightest dude at Barstool for a while. I was alone. What am I going to do? Talk about sucking dick with Billy Football? That's not going to work. I mean, I could talk about it with you.

I mean, I could talk about it with you. What are you talking about? was it's been good we had our end of the year meeting and it's never like enough though like you taught well it was like a data meeting kind of deal but you were telling me the other night at your live show you're like me and kevin have like kind of gas each other up and be like we're doing fine yeah we just launched a whiskey like you know we're doing these shows that's cool and i'm not at that point yet where I can be like, we're doing fine. I'll see all of our numbers and our analytics, and I'm like, okay, what's KFC doing? What's PMT doing? And it's like automatically – I don't even ask a million dollars worth of game.

I don't want to jump in front of the subway. There's a fine line between ambitious and torturing yourself because Because there is a point of you have to eventually be satisfied on some level and enjoy the ride and soak it in and not stress and not compare. Because guess what? You could get $2 million worth of game, and then you compare yourself to fucking Rogan or whatever it is. There's always somebody helping you. But I don't think you have to.

You guys aren't settled. If you were settled, if you were settled, you'd stop putting out. It's important to be like, we're doing like, it's also because we, we do keep going. It's just what's PMT.

What's the game? We want to be there. We're not like stopping doing anything, but you know, we're always doing more. Cause I'm like, well, we got to keep going.

Cause if we take a fucking single day off, we might lose it all. But it's important to lose that mentality. It's important to get into the mentality of like, we are established. If you need to take a day off, if lose it all but it's important to lose that mentality it's important to get into the mentality of like we are established if you need to take a day off if you you know don't it's okay it's like we had our we added our point you gotta get our friday shows and since june there's been like a 92 increase in our like we're just adding one episode a week and so like all right let's take let's take the friday off after thanksgiving I'm like, fuck no. We can't let up now. Pedal to the metal.

And everyone, even the people upstairs were like, chill. You're okay. And I'm like, well, why don't we add a third? That's another 92%. And then we're cooking with gas kind of deal. No, but there is like a diminishing returns. It is a fine game. I'll tell you what.

As a podcast, I just added a third. I don't recommend it. Has it been that difficult for you guys? It really is. Here's what we did. When we added a third, we also at the same time said we're going to scale back on some interviews. We're really only going to take people who we ask yourself the question, will this impact downloads? Not like, oh, he was on a show that I liked or, oh, she was cool when I grew up or whatever.

But you're asking those questions. That's the problem that I have with people. So we ask the question, but we do it. So we ended up doing our full regular schedule of like 10 or 12 interviews a week. And then when you add a third podcast to it, it was just like there is a tipping point where all of a sudden it was like, fuck, we don't have enough hours in the week. Right. Which sounds crazy. Which sounds crazy. It sounds crazy.

It's really true, though. I'm sure, like, someone with a real job can't understand it. And I can't understand it. And I have this job. Because it's just like, you know, if you have an interview at 1, you know, you do a podcast from, like, 1030 on. Oh, we didn't finish the podcast, but we got to stop now to get ready for the interview. The interview ran late. Now we got to restart the podcast. we got to stop now to get ready for the interview the interview ran late now we got to restart the podcast oh but the other interview is coming

and all of a sudden you know you need little spaces in between everything to kind of rejuvenate yeah and so it is harder than it seems so that third one is uh it is don't do it yeah but that's like you said taking guests who just impact, like my struggle is like I think that way, but like no one else on Out and About like has as much skin in the game or cares as much. So I'm like, hey, why the fuck are we like booking this makeup artist that made you laugh once six years ago with 70,000 views? But it's like let's fucking – when we get the get the talent list Let's pick people who are Like TikTok People who are gonna like Drive

You understand the business of it Is what I'm trying to say But we also Again we don't We know to acknowledge it But then we don't follow it I mean we just approved Ben Foster yesterday

I said because he's from Boston I don't know who he's Ben Faw The taxi cab guy? No No that's No Ben Ben Foss Ben Foss The taxi cab guy No No that's Yo Ben

Ben Foss Hella High Water Ben Foss is like He's a gangster I said in the group text I was like He's gonna win an Oscar one day He's a fucking gangster

He played the cop In Hella High Water No No What Hella High Water the movie He's the brother who dies He's the brother who gets shot

Oh right I only watched half of it But also it's funny You only watched half of it Yeah I was like Dude that's an unbelievable movie Who the fuck watches half of Hell in High Water? I can't watch any movie

Because of this Like I cannot get through Dude Hell in High Water Is like one of the best movies In the last ten years And you watched half of it? Yeah I was just sitting there Just starting on TikTok

Next thing you know I'm on Twitter This is why I don't watch TikTok I like movies too much But the Taxi Cat guy We've done him too So it's my next show It's like yeah

We've done it all We've talked to all these fucking guys We've done him too So it's my Yeah yeah yeah It's like yeah We've done it all We've done it all We've talked to all These fucking guys We've done him twice Not at the time was he good Not at the time was he good Well he's not coming on now

I know that I mean he's a nice guy And all that stuff But like not at the time Was it like whoa Yo it's hard to make Like a tangible impact In a podcast

Especially one that's been Around for fucking 10 years It's like We're not moving the needle One way or the other Like it's just It is what it is After fucking 10 goddamn years when did you guys like start to realize like okay like obviously you have chemistry you talk on the mic

whatever when did you realize like all right this is getting big like let's keep going did it take you like five years to be like oh fuck we're like a house you know we had it with dan and then that ended like we've had so many different kind of – it's never been just like one show. It's kind of been like several iterations of it. But I remember when Dan was leaving, he was taking off episodes. And I noticed that when Dan was on the show, it was always funny and it was crazy. But when it was just us two, three guys, a big personality like him, it's a lot. And when we were just talking

i was like this is good it was like yeah good conversation and so i was like this is a good podcast getting over the hurdle of like well we don't watch it anymore because it's not the same or whatever like that that's a whole different story but i know this is good once we were able to just having start having like longer conversations and get into like good stories and shit as far as when did i then we know it was like a i mean honestly probably not until like recently really i would say not yet yeah even i noticed when i first started to now it's like the the main thing like the only time i've ever really even accepted it was like a few months ago when

burt said it when bururt was like I remember everybody knows that like this is the premium that was what we remember no it was even before it was before he said it later on a podcast but it was right yeah he said I have to go on Barstool Sports they do it right blah blah and he mentioned you guys like two weeks earlier when he was just with us he said something like yeah off the cuff he was just like everybody knows like you know he's like you're the best podcast you have to go on KFC Radio. And we're like, what? And his reaction was even better than the way he said it.

He was drinking and smoking. He's like, what are you talking about? Yeah. It was actually good. He's like, no, I didn't know that. We were at Bert's fucking after party in Nashville, which was like an invite only sort of thing. Cigar, smoke, drinks,

everybody there talking to directors and famous people, and he just like casually is dropping that. So that was a moment where I was like, soak it up. Imposter syndrome at all? Imposter syndrome at all? Do you get that in that situation?

I don't know what imposter syndrome is. Everyone always says it. I just hate myself. I'm pretty sure. I hate myself and don't think I deserve good things. I think you are the poster child for imposter syndrome, if I had to guess. Yeah, but it's like you don't. I'm sure when that happens, there's imposter syndrome.

The same thing like Colin Quinn. I'm like, what the fuck? I was watching this guy growing up on YouTube. Yeah, that's what's weird is because everybody has a podcast now. Very talented people have podcasts. Always Sunny Guys now have fucking a podcast. That is an amazing podcast every time they put it out because there's three of the most talented guys in the world doing it. We are still like, and you are, an old school podcast, which is just like regular people.

So it's like, it's weird. I remember looking at the charts one time and my brother was kind of showing me where we stood and everything. And it was in between, you know, like Bill Burr and all these people and then athletes and shit. So it was either like, you're either an entertainer or an athlete or a celebrity. You already have your fan base. And we are in the same category as them

just because of this. And that's a weird thing because it's like it's the ultimate snake until you make it. That's why I like it because it's like I've done all of this without having the talent that those guys have. They monetize a previous fan base through a podcast. How can I make extra money? You guys did it the opposite

where you like homegrown like your people are so loyal. But it is bizarre thinking like if I have a guest in, a big guest, which we're starting to get now and someone comes in, I feel like I'm going to get found out.

Yeah. I feel like I'm like, oh God, they're going to come on. Like they're not going to say, I'm going to say something and then they're not going to want to come back on. But I realize like,

but I just have to let it rip. Like our best shit, like when we had Fortune Feimster on Me and Joey were like You know what Let's not prepare She's a comedian She's gonna promote

Let's fucking rip it She walks in Joey's like Oh I didn't know Home Depot Was having a sale today Oh Off and running

I was just talking to Dante Before we just interviewed Chris Hansen And I saw Dante before He's like What questions do you have I was like I don't before we just interviewed Chris Hansen and I saw Dante before and he's like what questions do you have and I was like

I don't have fucking questions what do you mean we do like a Wikipedia search to make sure we're not missing something like major right and like I think that's like an early podcast thing

it's like I have to be very prepared but that's not what a podcast isn't an interview technically it's an interview but it's not it's a conversation that's what I struggle with

is like I want to prepare so much and like we I use your guys show as an that's what I struggle with is like I want to prepare so much and like we I use your guys show as an example I'm like our show is like very fast paced

we even talk fast I'm like let's slow down let's make it more conversational like the one we had the other day at I don't know if it's boring

everyone to fucking pieces but I think it's people think it's interesting to get like a peel it back a little like the conversation we had the other day I was like

Joey came to my place and we did a podcast on my couch. Nice new place, by the way. Thank you. I appreciate that. Coming up in the world. And we like – it was so opposite of what we usually do where we're like a million – like joke, joke, joke, joke, joke. Like go, go, go.

I was like let's just talk and people loved it. It ripped on YouTube. So we're having this – it ripped on Apple and all this. I also do love the – this around this new approach. Okay. Counterpoint though, and I think you can do both, is I really like, there's a fine line between when you see

like a podcast or a group of people, a group of friends, whatever. If they're doing their thing, and they have their inside jokes and their inside lingo and their whole style, it might turn people off where they're like, what, you're calling me ma'am? And they say, now?

I don't know what that is. More likely what happens is people go like, I want to get in on that. Yeah. So, like, what is it? Why does he say console? And why does, like, the little inside things, what do these things mean? I want to be in that world.

I think that is. So when you just do your thing people are like what's that one of the funniest things that it became a meme and it's a funny line in the show but I think that is one of the like

best ways to grow an audience what I'm referring to is when Michael Scott's like I love inside jokes I'd love to be part of one one day yes people want that hang on

I want to know what they're talking about and I think that is one of the more like and you guys have that in spades One of the more successful ways to get fans A popular inside joke Which doesn't really make sense

But it does It's big enough that there's a lot of people But it's still if you know you know And I also feel like when you're talking with someone Like me and Joey will talk We're like alright we're getting this guest in Let's have fun with each other and laugh because like if you say something and i laugh and it's not like disingenuous i think he's

very funny he thinks i'm very funny like if we show that okay you said this and you know i laugh and i react that automatically lets the guests know oh this is a joke that's why when someone comes in right away we're like this moment with them off the bat we had uh like the funniest moments from this past tour that we did was just when the four or five of us were hanging out. And it was just like bullshitting. And I was like, I wish we had fucking cameras on at all times because this is way funnier than the stuff we're trying to do is funny. And that is when people go like, oh, this is actually real. It's not scripted.

We know you're not trying to make us laugh. It's just like happening. That is, I think, when people really get into a podcast. I don't know what Joey is. He's an alien. He was walking around in a pilgrim dress today.

He goes, Trish, I come over. He goes, Vagisil, dear? He sprays his balls with Vagisil. There weren't even cameras around. He's doing it to make himself laugh. I mean, maybe it comes from a place of insecurity because all of us have some of that, right? But he is one of the most

naturally funny and seemingly confident people I know. I don't know if it comes from a place of insecurity where he's like, I gotta put on this front. But he is like, it doesn't matter who you are, how big, small, rich, poor, whatever, he will crack jokes with you you are, how big, small, rich, poor, whatever. He will crack jokes with you about you, on you, and keep it moving.

And it's like you get caught up in a wave of Joey, and you're just like, whoa. I should show you the email that I wrote to Dave when I wrote an email to him about getting Joey hired. Oh, yes, please. Joey's one of my favorite parts of Barstool, besides the fact that we're drinking at 2 o'clock in the office on a Friday it's a Friday but like it's a Friday I was like I shouldn't have said it's Friday

that kind of takes it off of course we're drinking at 2 on a Friday this might be too long to read but come on I walked into the office today about noon and I was trying to avoid him But come on People love you inside work I walked into the office today About noon I was trying to avoid him So I didn't have to go to a concert in Sayreville, New Jersey

I go please don't have him come in And then I hear From the lobby I was like There we go But I don't have a key card to this office Oh I don't either I've asked multiple times and they just say Eh you don't have a key card to this office Oh, I don't either I've asked multiple times and they just say, eh, you don't need it And I'm like, I definitively need it

I saw you ask yesterday I ask all the time, can I have a new key card? And they're like, yeah, we'll get you one But the first time they literally told me, you don't need one And I was like, yes, I definitively do Really quick, my boyfriend about the Nuckab Donuts concert goes, ha, ha, ha. Like, maybe. Tell him we've got to take it.

Tell him we've got to know now. We've got to know now, Zach. But the, that's Zach McCargo, by the way. Little inner office fucking for you. I can promise you it is not. Now, I had a chance. And I turned it down. Probably still did.

As does the rest of you. He's a whore. That's what I'm saying. His ex-wife. That's what I'm getting at. My boy's going to Nick. Sayreville, here you come, baby. But the – I had to get let in.

I had to get buzzed into the office because I don't have a goddamn key card. And no one was at the front desk. And so no one could buzz me in. And I'm just standing at the door like an idiot. And Joey just walks by, no shoes, in a pilgrim outfit and just waves at me. Doesn't make the connection he might need to come in. Just tries to flaunt it around. Very funny.

Yeah, he was dressed like the female. When does this come out? This will be on Monday. This Monday. All right. So Wednesday, two days from now, we'll have the Thanksgiving episode. I wish I knew you guys were here. We had everyone come in, a bunch of Barstool people, and say what they were thankful for.

It was very fun. It got kind of sad. Francis was like, you know, my parents are getting older. I was like, what? What are you talking about? I'm thankful for a bucket of whiskey, bro. I was about to say, I'm thankful that Feidelberg can drink all the whiskey. Joey said he was thankful for stretch denim.

Shout out Muggsy. Jacket's on sale. Shout out Mugsy. Jacket's on sale. Shout out Mugsy. We are such fucking shills. He was – let's read this email because – Yeah, he was a fucking – Dude, with the revelation for you. Did you even work here the first time you came in with Snooki?

I think so, but I don't think I – I remember being like, He's a hurricane. Thank you so much. This is long, girl. Who is this guy? Because this guy is the real fucking star. I mean I just kind of outlined it. I texted him.

I kind of like hounded him. I'm like, hey – because you know. It was like you get someone on like this person would do good. I mean he sent like here are numbers. Yeah, he's like put this shit in an email. He's like stop texting me. I was like, okay. So I put in an email and I was like here's why he should work here, blah, blah, blah.

I think the line that I used that – it was funny because the thing that actually got him hired was he made fun of Sass. And Dave thought it was funny. He goes, oh, he can work here. Dave needs one thing. One thing. But I was like, here's why it would work. I go, it would just be pouring gasoline on a fire essentially. And now I'm at the point I'm like, do I find another Joey?

Do it again. Do it again. Triple and triple. I will tell you this much. I genuinely, I don't think you can find another one. No. It's on the planet Earth.

I think he's one of a kind like that. But you get like, it is the perfect storm. In short, I've been looking for a gay guy to do content with for the past year and I feel like I finally found him. It is weird.

My goal is to make money for this company, and adding Joey to Out and About will pour gasoline on both my show and my personal brand, as well as increase Barstool's footprint and credibility within the gay community. Like, boom, done. Like, that is it. There it is.

I need the right guy to collaborate with, and Joey is that guy. That's what I was going to say for you. He ignored that and waited for him to make fun of Sass. But then you need a little bit of a proof of concept. Yeah, of course. Because you took the leap and were like, I'll be Barstool's gay guy. Which, although we were kind of ragging on Dave a little bit for you need one thing. I was the one to Dave who was like, we should hire this guy.

And that was because I thought it was funny. Because this is the time when I was still checking the Barstool sport, the Boston emails. Tips. I used to send, I go, holy, I'm gonna fucking blow my brains out if I do this job anymore. Follow Barstool forever. Let me just write to tips every day. So I'd write to tips and guess an email. He was the one reading that. And he was the one who ended up

putting in a good word for me. I was like, but my one thing was your name looked like Pat McAfee. And I was like, wouldn't it be funny if we had Pat and Gay Pat? And Dave was like, that's pretty good. Get him in. I remember that for a little while. I was like, do I have to just be Gay Pat?

Can I just not be Pat? I was thrilled when McAfee left. I was like, get that fucking... Straight Pat out of here. Get that corn-fed, Midwestern fuck out of here. I was happy, too, because he looked better in a romper than me. That still weighs on me. When we both were on the same romper and he filled it out, I did it.

Of course he looks better than you in a fucking... He's a football player. Did you expect not... He had the fucking thighs for it. I got little fucking bird legs. He's a professional kicker. Of course, man. Fucking A.

I was like, God damn, is that what you're supposed to look like in a male romper? Did we sell rompers? No, I think we tried to. We almost did. The romp him. The romp him, yeah. That was a fad for like one second. And because we're just pathetic shills, we're like, oh, money?

Let's get a few more shekels. Start hawking romps. Let's make female men's clothes. Let's go. But I think what happened was we were going to do it. And then we put them on. And it was like I don't look like McAfee

Imagine my legs Exposed My skinny gay legs Exposed My knees are bigger than my thighs It's crazy that they fuck you It's shocking Well they don't

Believe it or not they don't But you took the chance, right? And were willing to be, you know, let's call it. Now she was Jackie Robinson of the gays. Now she will take credit. Believe it or not. I mean, you were willing to do that. And I'm sure it probably was a bit on the nose when it was like, you're gay, Pat, and you write about the rainbow.

Like, do the gay stuff. Well, I had one really good blog, and I was like, fuck yeah. That got me in, and then I was like, oh, God, I have to do this again. Remember we threw you on the rundown day one? Yeah. You walked in off the run. I just lied. I was like, nah, I'm full time.

You're like, okay. And then I just wasn't full time. So you got to do it. Snake until you make it. But it was tough knowing that I knew you were funny. I had seen how you write. I just knew what you were interacting like this. And I saw what you were doing with

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I want to do this show on my own. So I was like, let me get someone who he likes to do the show with. Dude, that is as important as doing good content is getting like incepting Dave into thinking it's his show and his idea. Let me get Kate. She looks like a lesbian. We'll get Kate in. And so Kate came on and Kate's funny, but it's a weird thing. Like straight people can't really,

they're apprehensive about joking about gay things in a way that I want to, because you can be paid. It's all takes one clip and you're paying as an asshole, especially, you know, a year ago when I started this, things were crazier. Um, and it just, it wasn't there. Like you said, it wasn't really the content that I wanted to do. I felt like I was holding back and then Kate had a baby blessing in disguise for all of us. And then, you know, it's just we kind of went our separate ways, and I did a couple on my own. I remember one time I was actually so lazy, I recorded on a mic that wasn't on, but this one was.

And they're like, we have to do it again. I go, just bump the levels. But then I sweaty Italian sausage. It was all about that. That laugh, Jackie. Oh, my God. I heard it the levels. But then I sweaty Italian sausage. It was all about that. That laugh, Jackie. Oh, my God. I heard it on Twitter. That noise.

You just tell me about it. That's incredible. But then I had, I brought Joey in and I was like, oh, he's like out crazy. Because you have people you grew up with and you can really just let it rip. You don't have to feel like you're, there's no risk in the conversation within the two of you there's risk with the viewers always but I was like there's no right there's no risk there

and when I felt like comfortable enough to be like okay I can say everything that I want to say I felt that way with him after two minutes of an interview he was like he walked in and was like I will suck all your dicks and I was like okay let's go and was like, I will suck all your dicks. And I was like, okay, let's go. You know,

like we can say anything we want. And so it was cool to watch because it was like someone who deserves it. And there was every chance that, you know, if Joey doesn't come along, who fucking knows?

Like he just kind of toil in obscurity for a while. I remember you got kind of rewarded in a sense with that. And Joey probably does not have the professional capabilities to kind of run the show himself. You know what I mean?

I don't think he could be doing the business side of things. I like how you could be describing Joey or me. I was just. That's how what I found. Everyone was thinking it. I had to acknowledge it. It's always like that on all these shows, though.

One guy is the one who's kind of, get this, do this, do this. The other guy's just kind of, I'm here for the ride. No, but I mean, I told everybody this. When we are on stage, John doesn't realize he's just a stand-up comic. He's doing like a full fucking set. I saw you at Caroline's. You were just, you were crushing. He's all by himself. I'm. I saw you at Caroline's. You were just, you were crushing. He's all by himself.

I'm not even talking. I'm there. Maybe occasionally just agree with him or give him some sort of whatever. But he is just basically doing

a stand-up routine and doesn't even fucking know it. And I've been able to hopefully harness that and pull it out because I don't know if he would do it himself. But having a fucking

ridiculous human to just be like, tell me at tell me more look at the look at this what is this like what is what is this what is this honey shout out nini leaks i would i would i would yeah definitely everyone knows the five people watch I would walk into a podcast studio and see Joey and look at how he's dressed and how he's talking and be like, let me paint my masterpiece. You know what I mean? Give me all your stories. Give me all your jokes. I just got to pull it out of you. Let's go.

But do you guys butt heads ever? Literally not once. I was going to say. All the time? But it's not. We don't butt heads. It's just at least I feel like, and I think part of it comes from me being so like, let's keep going. I need to take a step back and relax.

I feel like it's an uphill battle. Me and Joe, we'll go at it. Yeah. Like in a point. And that'll trickle down. I saw you. And then Marty and Sandra. You two and Sandra were like fucking.

Yeah, Kevin came in one day. He was like, they're just fighting in the kitchen. It was crazy. Well, me and Joey scream at each other. And then that other people think that they can scream at each other too. But we're over it in three seconds. Do you know what I mean? Fuck you.

I fucking hate you. It's done. Okay. Hi, welcome to Out and About. And it makes for good shit. We've never had that. I don't think I'm good at that with anybody. I'm definitively not good at it.

If I go out with somebody, it's pretty much like we can be cool, but I'm not going to vibe with you anymore. But you don't have a debate show. Your show is you guys. When we do start to argue, it goes on too long, and we just shut it down. It sucks. Basically, it's the only ever dude about Kanye. It really is about Kanye. By the way, Kevin came out ahead of that one.

Thank you. Thank you. He's wearing Yeezys right now. We did it like three times about Kanye, and it would always be like, this is the stupidest. Just talking in circles. Talking in circles. But that's on mic.

Also off mic, we just never. I don't know. I've never. I've been mildly annoyed with Kevin before, and I just get over it in 10 minutes, and that's it. like i don't know i've never i've been mildly annoyed with kevin before and i just get over it in 10 minutes and that's it and i don't even need to but you guys don't hang out you don't hang out outside the office that is true there is enough separation it's not like we don't hang out but like it's not why would you you're uptown he's down here you have kids right it's it's just like when we go our separate ways we are living

different lives and i do think that helps a little bit it also helps that we used to have a segment called adolescent adolescent where it was like the things he's doing and then the problem now we are living different lives and I do think that helps a little bit. It also helps that we used to have a segment called Adolescent to Adolescent where it was like the things he's doing and then the problem now the problem the problem Patrick is that our lives

our lives started to come back together after this. Now the writing was on the wall believe it or not. All of a sudden that was an adolescent too

so next you know he's not a dad unless Kevin was coming in And he was like I had a date on Long Island Last night

Woke up at some mom's house Jesus And I was like Fuck Final Burger's like I was in bed by 8 o'clock Last night Yeah

So I was gonna say But we'll butt heads And then We'll get over But we found that It's like a tough Push and pull

Because Joey doesn't think At all And this is me complaining This is just how he is. He doesn't care what does well, what doesn't do well. And I think this is what makes it good is because he doesn't give a fuck. So he talks about what's funny to him. And me, on the other hand, I'm thinking, even as we're recording,

what's going to be the clip? What's going to do this? You guys are very good at this. And I got to get better at that because I'm looking at Marty. And sometimes he'll say things and I'm like, you know, clip it just because

I want that growth. I've told these guys before like, look like the way that they, you guys do very good cliffhangers and shit like that where I was like, these guys are very good at this.

So it makes sense. I'm somebody who just, it's almost like having like a Yasiel Puig on your baseball team who's like, I hit baseball. I throw baseball.

Like I don't, I don't give a fuck. And bet tennis. But it's frustrating. And bet tennis. Yeah, we talked about that on the rundown but that you need you need both sides of it and then it's like you get that raw like ridiculousness and then you'll also be like okay that was awesome but we also need to do like a list to get a clip for social media which i can't it was it was the him to do it. It was the, I remember at the old office, we were in Erica's office,

and we were just talking, I don't know why we were in there, I don't know what we were talking about, but she was talking about how, like, like, can we... She's gonna get bombed and miss Nickelback. Yeah, she's gonna say, you're gonna get slowed down!

Let's come back to that, yeah. But the, we were talking about how, like, everyone needs a partner at Barstool. It's very hard to go solo I forget She was kind of asking us Like how do we get These people partners

And And we were like I don't fucking know We kind of just fell Backwards into each other You can't You can't really force it Like

But it is 100% Incredibly important To have a partner You need Like that's the only way To succeed here It also usually is Strictly a duo

Right Trios are kind of hard To manage too I would say that the And the reason I was a partner. You need, like, that's the only way to succeed here. It also usually is strictly a duo. Right. Trios are kind of hard to manage too. I would say that the, and the reason I was bringing this all up is I would say that the exception that

proves the rule of that is foreplay was always awesome, right? Love, like, I mean, they're like three of

my favorite guys in the company, Riggs, Trent, Frankie, and Dan now. Sorry, that felt weird,

but whatever. You're new, you're new, bro, you're the new guy. It's fine, yeah. But like, I felt weird, but whatever. You're new, bro. You're the new guy. But I think foreplay was doing very well. And I think you need that wild card, that Joey. Because when Frankie came in, I think foreplay kind of shot up. Yes. It's like, who the fuck is this maniac?

Yes. Because you need someone who doesn't give a fuck or has a weird brain or whatever. And then it's just magic. But it also helps. Do you feel that Dave likes the gays more than the straights? Very homophobic, I feel. Clip that.

I was in his apartment one night. Chicks and gays,, Dave, is like – I don't know. You guys do your thing. I feel like I'm going to get in trouble if I have any opinions. Exactly. I think to be completely honest with you, I think me kind of being so adamant about getting my podcast partner in with Dave – Podcast partner.

Joey. Bringing Joey in. Not Zach. Not Zach. Not Zach. Other Zach, not that Zach. No, not Zach. But I think me being so adamant about bringing him in and, like, being like, hey, no, this, you know, I've been here for a minute, you know,

let's take a risk on this. And I think it working out I think has made him respect me much more. A million times more. A million times more because I'm like, listen, if it doesn't work, don't get rid of me, get rid him six months six months but it's true it's just you need you like you need a partner to do it and i think like you said you have to have one wild card and one not but part of being the guy who's not the wild card is like i have to realize when i'm being too intense with him because like about business stuff because that will shut him down.

And also. Yeah, you got to know your partner's limits. Like I know their limits. Like five o'clock hits, we're done. Yeah, like you guys don't hang out. Like you guys don't hang out outside of work. Like that much. Not that we don't hang out.

It's just that. Well, yeah, you have different lives. And it's like. You guys are two slutty gay balls. But you recognize that. And it's like, I, like we had Penn Jillette on and on, and I was like, how have you done it so long? Working with a partner who – it's been 35 years, the longest running act in Vegas. How have you done it?

He's like, we run it like a dry cleaning business. We go out to eat maybe once a quarter. We go into work at this time. We go out at this time. That's how I prefer to run things. But I also understand, and I love Joey. He's the best. I also understand that Joey needs more than that.

Joey needs to feel like we're good friends, which we are. Yeah. So, you know, if it's a Thursday at 8 p.m. and Uncle Joe texts me, let's go.

I'm going out, you know, because I want to, but also for the health of the show. Yeah. Because I know going out, and you said it to me the other night,

having a story is podcast fodder. One of the worst parts. Why we're a story is podcast you know fodder having why we're going to nickelback tonight that's literally why we're going like dude when you when we're literally going to go back tonight rather than sitting on the couch and doing nothing it's like if i go brings the stories but joey doesn't joey doesn't he doesn't go half and half it's like you either go out it's it's four or 5 a.m. There is no in between. And you cannot leave. Joey has one speed, man. That's just how

he does everything. I love that with Chad Kroger. I don't know if you ever heard of Kroger. When he came in, it was like 5 o'clock last night in the interview, and we offered him whiskey and he just went, this model was not made with brakes.

That's alcoholism. Also, mine wasn't either. We offered him whiskey And he just went This model was not made with brakes Yeah Oh wow What a lie That's alcoholism Also mine wasn't either Yeah I mean that is That's a good thing to have And it's a hard thing to balance as well Yeah You know

But it is It's been fucking A great show to watch Thank you Very great to watch it Like Cause it's undeniable great show to watch. Thank you. Very great to watch it. Because it's undeniable, too. It's like, you know when some shows are doing good,

you know when some shows are doing bad, you know when some shows are like, that's next. And it was a very clear vibe of out and about is next. It is. From day one of out and about, I got it because you guys

were always pulling people in. Yeah, yeah. I got Botox at one point. I get it. I have it right now. It's actually like a weird It's a weird relationship I feel like we have

With the company Where like I really love When people ask me To do their show Yeah And I feel like people Don't ask us

Cause like I think they think We need to ask them Or something I'll go on your show But you guys didn't give a fuck And you guys were like Yeah well come on

Yeah but I'm comfortable With you guys I was like Fuck yeah What's going on About today But that's Yeah you know I mean like And I mean you guys It's a fun show to do where it's like I like to go on a show where I can just fucking rip it.

You know, and I'm not hosting, and I don't have any rules, and I can say whatever I want. Man, you guys would have – out and about in 2010. Oh, buddy. Well, it's funny. Our show is basically 2010. Who did I have in today? I had in Dante. We had for the Thanksgiving episode.

I go, mac and cheese. Traditionally black dish? He was like, we need to cut this. I was like, all right, fine. That was Joey when I walked in yesterday. I was wearing my winter kimono. A kimono? Show them.

A kimono? Show them the winter kimono. It is. Ew, I think I saw this. It is. The other day. Oh, yeah, Joey. Now she's a hairy queen. Were you not here for this?

He had on the winter kimono. We were upstairs taking pictures. He had on the winter kimono. He had on a pair of white chinos and a pair of white and em emerald green loafers oh I saw and Joey goes he goes now why are you why you dress like a black man this is a this is I'm gonna leave this in the studio for Jackie because Jackie like to come it's very comfortable no I'm not no I. No, you do sweat a lot. But Jackie, it is a very comfortable thing.

But yeah, when I was wearing it, Joey, it's a black man's outfit. It was genuine. He was trying to be funny, but it was also inquisitive. It's like, why are you dressed like a black man? That's a black man's outfit. You know what it is? He comes from the era where gay men were mean, but the meanness was rooted in humor. Like that Kathy Griffin, late 90s, just like Joan Rivers. No, she's straight.

Just that meanness. Why'd you reference her? Because she's like gay. He's got that very biting Joan Rivers style. Joan Rivers is a great example. Gay humor. It's fucking vicious, and some people are going to be like, whoa, but it's very funny. Some people have a talent for saying the meanest things with a smile on their face, and you can't do anything about it.

It's like your look. It's like sometimes your face, you smile, he's a little bit big, whatever it is, it's like, oh, that's funny. Instead of, like I say, it's like, fuck you, you asshole, whatever the reason is. Did you just he's a little bit big, whatever it is, it's like, oh, that's funny instead of like I say, it's like, fuck you, you asshole, whatever the reason is. Did you just call Dave a little bit big?

He's a big bear. Joey's built like a fucking linebacker. But he sounds like my 12-year-old sister. He opens his mouth, he's like, brr, brr, brr.

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Member of FDIC. Future you is going to thank you. Now, what has... How's Playboy Marty handling the out-and-about world? Because sometimes it's like, dude came in to talk about the Phoenix Suns and this is football. And then I walk in and you're dressed like Nana.

Marty gets sexually harassed. He'll walk into the studio and she'll go, hanging to the left today, are we? I'm just like, dude, we can't. There was something on a clip the other day that you were, I don't know if it was clickbait

or I don't know if I ever saw the other side of it, but you were like, we can't say this. We can't air this. And I don't know what- That's half the show gets cut. We record for two hours,

we get 40 minutes out of it. It's fucking brutal. But Marty has been, Marty is great. It's like one of those things, like you guys have experienced it. You've been around forever. You have growing pains.

Like there are people, you know, there's ups and downs, like with producers, with social, with hosts. We have that 10x because we're gay so we let emotion rule the conversation super dramatic yeah we're super oh you're kidding so you know there's there's definitely been ups and downs like me and marty have gone at it and this and that but we're at a point now where it's like everyone understands the goal yeah except joey the goal is you know grow it the best you can and you know if we scream at each

other dude when you get over it when sandra came back when you guys were arguing god and she like she said something like when i say that like we need to do this like or she's you know she was saying i will get to that but i have a job to do first so when you ask me to do something extra i have to make sure the job gets done first and then i will get to your like secondary thing and she walks away and i remember i was sitting there eating cheez-its yeah this fucking scumbag's in the kitchen loving it i haven't talked to him in two months he's like i'm literally leaning on the counter and i'm popping cheez-its and i go they're treating you like that because you're a chick. And she goes, yeah, yeah. Exactly. And it was true.

It's almost gasoline on a fire, bro. And then she was like, you're right. She says a couple other things. And she walked away and she came back again and she was like, and another thing, when I start yelling at you guys, you call me a bitch, but when you guys yell at each other, you're allowed to do that. And I was like, yeah! She turns into the gay guys they do

the wendy williams she stands up for herself but i stopped joey get away a lot more than i can so it's like she had a thing she's like if you ask me to do something you have to give me a compliment i was like no problem you look nice today toss it over to joey for his compliment he goes i go no i go we're on camera what's happening he goes He goes, I go, no! I go, we're on camera. What's happening? He goes, he goes,

your tracheal shave didn't take. Then he goes, he goes, but I noticed you shaved your legs today. Great job. And I'm just like, dude, this is what happens. Like, this is a lawsuit.

I keep my mouth shut. Just even do that yeah yeah because he knows if he gets any sort of rise out of me it's good yeah so look i have to have a look at him i'm like don't fucking look at me like francis francis on wednesday show he's talking about like his he was talking about like his sister being pregnant and this and joy looks at me just kind of goes and i was like dude don't i know what you're gonna say you're gonna ask who the father is He was talking about his sister being pregnant. And Joey looks at me and just kind of goes... And I was like, dude, don't. I know what you're going to say. You're going to ask who the father is.

You're going to go on and on. I was like, don't fucking do it. It's like a kid in a candy store with him. And he's like, what do you expect me not to fucking say this shit? I'm a sucker for a laugh. This is going to get a laugh. That's it. There are certain people in this world, and I think everyone at Barstool is.

It's just a matter of how much so. You are a slave to the joke. You know what's funny? I actually wrote this down. I went to Akash Singh last night. Caroline's very funny. The weekend's over, so you won't go. You can't go.

Great plug for our friend. Well, you can't go. This is coming out on Monday. It's Friday. The shows are over. You can't go anymore. It coming out on Monday. It's Friday. The shows are over. You can't go anymore. It was very funny. Catch me if he's in your town.

But someone dropped a joke during the show that crushed. Like, everyone loved it. He said, hallelujah. It was about, like, you know, whatever. Trump's announcement. Something misogynistic. Something about, like like hating your wife. And,

uh, but then it got such a laugh that like five minutes later, he tried it again, try to drop the hallelujah. And I was like, and I, I, cause people like comedians had talked to that table. So I knew they were all worked in tech sales.

And I was like, that dude got a taste of what it's like to make someone laugh. Yeah. And he immediately couldn't stop. He had to try. He had to try again. And the second time, I was like,

all right, dude, chill out. Yeah, that's enough. That's as strong as there is. Dude, if you're not a funny person, if you don't make people laugh, you don't understand what it is. It's crazy. I don't want to go so far

and do the addiction and all that stuff you stand up to, but it is like the adrenaline rush you get. The addiction side of it is funny where it's like, I will make a joke. I'm like, I know this is detrimental to my life. I know that this is going to air and be a problem.

And they say, you want me to cut it? And I say, nope. But that's probably rooted. Like making someone laugh is like rooted. Like you were probably the funniest guy in your group of friends growing up. It was probably the same. There are always people like they say like the saddest thing in life is wasted talent.

Like I have a buddy, this kid, this kid. Let's just throw it in there. Let's just throw it in there. Leave it in there. Let's just throw full government. It was like,

he was always like the funniest guy in the world, but he just, for whatever reason, doesn't have the need to like get on a mic. Get it out there, yeah. But like having like,

you guys can attest to it, like making someone laugh and then getting over the embarrassment of saying, okay, now I want to do this on a mic for a big audience, which took me years to do. Like getting over that embarrassment, then you can get funny. Then you can get good. Well, that's why podcasting is different because it's like, I hope you're at home listening and laughing when you're on stage. That's why I think standup comedy is like the ultimate rush because it's like I hope you're at home listening and laughing when you're on stage that's why I think stand up comedy is like the ultimate

rush because it's like you say it they all laugh I mean imagine having like an arena dude Kevin Hart no I can't but balls MSG he did the link what and it's like I am a literal god on

earth right now because you all think I'm that funny and I just have you like in the palm of my hands like that I you know I have and also I will say this when people when they're like do you want to cut it I'm like if it's something that's like really mean or stupidly offensive or whatever it's always like I think

this is funny and the person that's going to be upset should also think that this is funny so fucking leave it if it's like I actually understand why you're upset I'll you know cut it or whatever but it's like that this is funny. So fucking leave it. If it's like, I actually understand why you're upset, I'll cut it or whatever. But it's like, that's so funny and I will not let it not be out there because you just think it's funny too.

If there's that, ooh, I don't know if I should, it's like, they say that's the edge of stand-up. It should be like, ooh, I don't know if I should laugh or not, but that doesn't necessarily translate to podcast because it's on the internet.

So like that, we have a lot of like, ooh, I don't know if I should But it's like Do we really need like Is the risk worth the reward Because there's still There's much more risk

On the internet on camera Than there is on stage With a mic With some fucking dick That's also the highest risk Is writing Yeah It lives forever

Bro podcast You can say whatever the fuck You want on podcast I've said some fucked up stuff That I was like Ooh did we air that And we did. No one cares.

No one cares. If you write it, then you're in trouble. Honestly, think about it. You have your audience. Let's say you have like, here's all your subscribers. Maybe, I don't know, 15% of them missed that episode for whatever reason. And then another 15% of them or 20% of them just have it on in the background and missed that joke.

And then the other 15% are not the type. Which pisses me off when I know I nailed the joke. Yeah, it's like, what the hell is it? You motherfuckers didn't even hear that. And then there's the 15% of people who aren't the type to go on the internet and respond to anything. And you're left to, like, this 10% sliver that might reply to a joke. But you don't worry about them anymore. Because you guys are big enough to the point where people know there's enough of a, like, audio and, like, video history of you guys are big enough to the point where And people know there's enough of a Audio and video history

Of you guys that even if a clip Was isolated and it was something that was Off collar and I also think cancel culture is On the way down You're not going to receive I got to a point I mean there was probably like Five times and like two

Real attempts To get me You called me like five times and like two real attempts to get me. Can I tell a story? I was on a boat in Meredith, New Hampshire on a lake. Trash. I know. And I'm sitting there at my phone search. What the fuck is this?

Kevin Clancy's calling me. And he called me and I was with my buddy Lloyd, who you know very well. And you called me and you're like, hey. I was like, hey hey what's going on it was a great impression he was like you know there's a hit piece coming out I just want you to know

that you know I think I cut you off in the middle you're good it was great shut up I'm on a boat don't bother me with this bullshit right now you said faggot 15 years ago oh god I'm on a boat I'm on a boat right now You said faggot 15 years ago. Oh, God. I'm on a boat. I'm on a boat right now.

He said faggot like 25 years ago, and he called me on the 4th. He bothered me on the 4th of July. I go, okay, enough. I don't even know this. I can't remember what it was, but it was like some tweets or a hit piece where I said ****.

My guy's like, in case you missed it I was like I called him and I wanted to make sure we were good and I knew we were good

imagine if I said I wasn't good it was almost like I almost felt like it was offensive to call you it's cause it's like I was just taking it back

I talked to you like four times this was like three years ago but I also know enough about you as like your sense of humor. Like if someone ever came to me, I'm like, are you okay that I said you're a mick or something?

I'd be like, do you really think that low of me that I would care about that? So I was like – This is the same thing. But it was like I needed to fucking – I think it was one of the bigger ones. So I was like, I just – One of the bigger ones. That was a lot of time.

I also realized – That was the word. That So I was like, I just, I got to like, one of the bigger ones. That was a while. I didn't know what the time was. That was just, that was the word. That was what he said. Say this right now. I'll tell you what, on the Marshall Blackout tour, a lot of boys caught F-bombs. Oh my God. The things I would have done on the amount of dicks I would have sucked. Buddy, I don't know if we can, I might get taken off the fucking high noon tour, but

I cleaned up Marshall versus America. Yeah. You would have called, you would have called it as you were looking down at me, gagging on your dick. And then I would have immediately came. Yeah, that's me. I would have said, yes, sir. It sounded like that.

Oh my god. I was a pig on that. I took myself off the Bud Light tour. I was like, I can't. They're like, why? I was like, I would myself off the Bud Light tour. I was like, I can't. They're like, why? I was like, I would go on the Bud Light tour before I did, and I would go to my doctor. I'd go, I have every STD. They'd go, what?

And they'd give me every medicine I had to make sure I was good before I went. It was disgusting. And that's how I met Jackie, believe it or not, on the tour. This girl sweats a lot. There he is. Fuck, we're going to make it up. The funniest thing you ever said, and it's actually the only time I've ever seen you apprehensive,

is when you said you went on such a bender you thought you had AIDS. You know what? I was addicted to energy drinks. Remember? I would go in the green room and I'd have... I've been there before. Energy drinks? Yeah, I was at the energy drinks.

I was addicted to energy drinks. Were you drinking your energy drinks through your nose? Yeah, exactly. No, but the crazy part is I would be so depleted of energy because the crash would be so crazy because I'd be on these energy drinks. Yeah, I know. I'd go lay down in the green room, and then I'd be like, holy fuck. I'd be like in the unconscious. Passed out at work.

And then I'd go home, and we don't have to bleep this. You say we don't have to bleep that? Yeah, maybe. No, we're not bleeping that. We don't. No, this would be a Friday ready to go out. Not a Tuesday at 3 p.m. And we'd go out and I'd be like, nothing would wake me up.

And I went to the doctor. I was like, I think I have AIDS. And they were like, what is your diet and this and that? They're like, you have four energy drinks a day? I'm like, yeah, I have to wake up. They're like, here's what we're going to do. Stop that. Have some broccoli for lunch, like a Chobani.

Like, basically fix your goddamn diet and your lifestyle. And I did, and lo and behold, I'm 1,000% better. Lo and behold, I don't have AIDS. Lo and behold, I'm a thousand percent better. Lo and behold, I don't have AIDS. Lo and behold, I do not yet. Colleen fucking walked into Caroline's the other night with just a pile of broccoli. It was disgusting. That she got at a Chinese restaurant. And she's like, yeah, you guys don't know about broccoli size at Chinese restaurants?

It's like $3. No, I have no idea. It's a secret that no one else knows about for me. No, we all know about it. We don't know it's a secret that no one else knows about me no we all know about it we don't want the broccoli do you know it really was the funniest thing

do you drink anymore that's one of the things that very like very little I haven't I haven't really gotten like fucking rip roaring drunk

in years you're missing out bro no don't get me wrong I just think gay is I love it man yeah me neither I'm dropping back on. Yeah, me neither. I'm driving back on back.

Just got my license back. Ike, what was that, hon? You don't drink anymore. You can't get the kids. The kids and then like the kids lifestyle, even when I don't have the kids. There was a period of time where it was like I'd be waking up in Long Island when I was like uh i'd you know be waking up in long island like when i was like newly single and but then then you then i like have to watch my kids like the kids so it's like i i don't have the time to recover i'm either at work or with the kids or

doing the party to recover and so and then eventually you live that life long enough that you kind of lose your fastball where it's like i I can't drink like I used to. The hangovers kill me more than they ever did. And it's just not worth it. But you want to lose your fastball. It's nice to lose your fastball sometimes. I have a buddy who just stopped drinking. And I was like, oh, what happened? He's like, the hangovers got bad.

And I was like, well, that's not a reason to stop. Like, what are you talking about? He's like, dude, they would affect me for like two well, that's not a reason to stop. Like, what are you talking about? He's like, dude, they would affect me for like two days. That's it? I was like, well, you just drink. Then you drink again. You drink again.

You have to understand that you have like an uncanny ability. You are in the top like 1%. I'm a great drinker. You're a great drinker. I'm a great drinker. And you know what's so really upsetting? I'll tell you what. It's not going to last forever. No.

I will stop one day. Now she will stop. When you're fucking dead. Yeah. Yeah. You's not going to last forever. I will stop one day. Now she will stop. When you're fucking dead. Yeah, you know, Belushi stopped too. Yeah, exactly. John's my favorite kind of drinker. You know, my boys fucking buried on Martha's Vineyard. They had to move his grave because too many people would just go around and drink on it.

What, on Belushi's? Yeah. On Chappaquiddick Road? On Chappaqua Road? My friend lives right across the street. Really? They have the little white rocks around it. I go to the grave. That's not his real grave.

He's not buried there. Oh, he's not. No, they moved his body. Like a fucking loser. I go drink on his grave. Let's go check it out. I used to be a good drinker, though. I used to pride myself on that.

I remember I got one buddy who was 6'5", 240, so he can put the beers away. I got another guy who is 100% Irish alcoholic. With the drinking... Yeah, you host the podcast. He has red hair. He's in plaid pants right now. I had an all-star drinking crew and I could always go

drink for drink, shot for shot with them and they would always be like, yo, Clancy, he's not the biggest, he's not the most Irish, but he can hang. He's not the most irish but he can hang he's not the most irish such a bronx trash not like an irish riviera like queen garbage yeah fucking trash uh but and i like pride of myself on that and then you lose that you're like someone someone was on the show recently and they were like they're like what's your hobby and i was like i like to drink yep and they were like who's your best drinker And I didn't say it I think I said Shane

And you were like I think it's him And I like that because it is me You've seen me have about 3 or 4 whiskeys on this show Call me at 4am I'll be up Don't do it It's not a pretty sight Feidelberg will go out of the gates hard

And I think he'll be drunker than he thinks and he'll be like I'm fine and the room's like you're shitfaced dude but then people will start to get worried and be like well are we gonna have to like send him home he doesn't wear it at all he will be shitfaced the whole time

but he will be there at 4am but you know what he does when he gets real drunk? It actually pisses me off now that I think about it. When Fiedelberg gets really drunk, he stops talking, and he takes his phone. And he puts it here and he rests it right on his bitch tits. Why Pete was the first one to catch that? Oh, bro, it's so funny. You know what he does?

So he'll do that, and you're trying to talk to him, and you can't really. And then he'll also go like this. He'll reach for food on the table. He gets quiet because he doesn't wear it until – his wearing it – there's nothing worse than someone who drinks and you can tell right away. That's why – you're my favorite person to drink with here. We haven't really drank together because you don't wear it. And when you just start getting quiet, I'm like, this is annoying, and I just leave. Because I know you're going to bring yourself home. I know I don't have to worry about – the worst thing is taking care of an adult. I don't wear it. And when you just start getting quiet, I'm like, this is annoying. And I just leave. Because I know you're going to bring yourself home.

I know I don't have to worry about. Well, the worst thing is taking care of an adult. I don't do it. I told Kahn's the other day. We saved Kahn's life one night at your place. Do you remember that? Yeah, I remember it. Kahn's goes, what are you talking about?

I don't know if we can leave this in, but I remember. Yeah, we can leave it. Maybe we can. Kahn's got so drunk on red wine at Feidelberg's place. He was laying on his back. And we're in the kitchen talking, having a great time. It's like barely midnight and all of a sudden we hear

and we look over. It's wine coming out. I think it's blood. I go, she's throwing up blood. Sean goes, it's wine. Walk over,

tip him over. It's wine, it's all over my fucking couch. He didn't give a fuck about the couch. He just annoyed it the noise it was making Because the noise

Was making it Bro we're listening To Nickelback right now But it is But it is funny Like you have Everyone's got that group Of like

I know four And now that when you Get to our age It's certain people Are sober Because like I have you know My best drinkers

Growing up Are sober You know what I mean I mean you gotta You come out of the gates Hard My crew We're fucking strong Oh dude I got buddies So there's fucking or sober. You know what I mean? You come out of the gates hard. My crew?

We're fucking strong. I got buddies who, there's fucking, there have been. Some of them died. My best buddy, Matt, died last October. We were like,

what happened? He just drank himself to death. That makes sense. I got one who died. The rest of us, we're fucking still. Was it booze related though? No, but he, that was like a freak thing.

We don't know. It was probably. But it was the blizzard booze? There was no autopsy performed, if I had to guess. Yeah, ours was like. It didn't help the situation. I'll say that. Hey, where's Matt?

He's supposed to be at the wedding. He's in the ICU. His liver shut down. But the rest of us. We have to bleep that name out. Stuck strong, yeah. This is not an after school special, I'll tell you that much. Don't listen to us.

It is interesting, though. Even for Thanksgiving, I'm like, I was thinking, do I go home? Do I go out to Long Island for my boyfriend? I was like, why am I going to go home? Like, the allure. Is that where Zach McCurry lives? Stop saying fucking Zach McCurry. I wouldn't touch him.

Because you go home, it's like all the people have kids, and it's like, what am I going all the people have kids and it's like what am I gonna do be the guy who begs their fucking friends to go out and then the wives hate you my dad had a great line

to me one time he goes Patrick because I was like my friends are over they all have kids he goes I'll tell you something right now

he goes your friends are always going to side with their wives and that's all he had to say for me to be like let me dial back they don't want to

no they don't want to but the pressure to go out you gotta't want to. They just have to. But the pressure to go out, you got to know when to pull back. It's like, Lloyd, he's got a fucking one-year-old. I can't be like, dude, let's go out. Let's go to... Because he's going to go.

He doesn't want to have to be like, yeah, my bitch went home. Do you have buddies that still go? Do you meet up with your buddies from growing up at all, or you're done? Yeah, yeah, no, we still do it. I mean, I have one friend. He called me about beginning of October

were they thrilled when you got divorced and he said they were the ones who framed them I'm the only the only fucking divorce guy you know what everyone's like 50% of everybody nobody but uh i had one friend who he was like it's like in uh uh elementary school like one in four people are gay and you look around he called me like a october 1st and said let's get together soon and he goes um and then and when we ended the phone call he goes before, before Thanksgiving. And I was like, I appreciate the realisticness here. Not like, let's go this weekend or next week. We have six weeks to plan this.

Get it once. We have not planned it yet. But I'm sure there are people, like I have friends who I don't. Officially, we're going nickelback tonight. I fucking hate it. Get that out of my face. I have friends who I can call no matter what. Let's find a party bus.

Let's find a party bus. John. I'm trying to ignore you because i think that'll make it go away i promise you like my drug dealer just text me and and the wanton don that's not good and you oh at 209 yeah i texted you want to come do this podcast um hey we are so anyway but yeah there are people that like you can call and it's like you know once you give them a couple drinks like my good friend lloyd who we went on a trip with i know that even though lloyd is tapered back his drinking i'll be in the kitchen i'll go i'll go mikey martini extra dirty. He'll go, yep.

I go, coming right up. You know, you got five or six in. You've met him before. I had a swimming contest with him last time I saw him. We rented a house in Hunter, New York, and it's 2 in the morning. We're shit-faced. And him and PFT are like, there's an indoor pool at the house. We've got to have a swimming contest.

He's like, absolutely not. Then everyone starts doing it. I'm like, I'm not going at the house. We've got to have a swimming contest. He's like, absolutely not. Then everyone starts doing it. I'm like, I'm not going to be the last guy here who's doing a swimming contest. I go, what's it like? Go underwater. They're like, the butterfly. I go, what? I do the butterfly.

I go, my shoulder's going to tear. I go underwater. I do this. And it sounded like a rubber band. Immediate, partially torn labrum. Immediately, right off the bat. I went up and drank away. But Lloyd was Absolutely. Partially torn labrum. Immediately. Right off the bat. I went up and drank away, but Lloyd was there.

He's going to come. Me and John are actually dating, believe it or not. I was just thinking, we might go to Montana for a little trip. It's a shame. You guys would just fuck. It would be the perfect couple.

Oh, it would be disgusting. It would be heinous. It would be heinous. I don't know. I saw myself in the mirror this morning. It would be heinous. It would be heinous. We might do a little Montana trip the mirror this morning it would be we might do a

little montana trip yeah a little big sky yeah me me me i was going on vacation with a bunch of gay guys this is like literally broke back mountain you want to go to fucking montana to ski like yeah because i know he'll do it all right well no it's gonna be me my boyfriend john his boyfriend and then Chef Don. We're going to try and get a good one. If anyone listening wants to go, it's on my credit card. DM me. Wait, you already bought it?

No, I didn't. Oh, okay. I'm in, by the way. I know you're in. You will suck a dick that weekend. Or like, whatever, the third or fourth time, whatever it is, but you will suck a dick that weekend. My Little League baseball coach introduced me to it.

I replicate that. We walk into the thing. It's a perfect replica of the Hurricane O'Reilly's bathroom. Just to get him done. Now the glory hole will be over here. I'll tell you what. We're talking about doing some new studio designing stuff. And we were talking about having a confessional.

And we were like, we're just going gonna put a glory hole hole in it yeah I don't know I don't know if you'll be able to access it and put your dick through it but there will be a glory I think we should be able to access it because I think it'd be funny why I know I'd be funny yeah but I think it'd be funny Joey you're in the middle of a confessional And I can just slam A dildo Yeah

Like a scary movie Yeah Or like a hard cock Either one We're done We're done Everyone's getting too drunk Eat your fucking chick boy

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