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Starting point is 00:03:44 and i went to their services. We got an interview with Joe Liss coming out. Very funny comic who's got some dates on the road. He's got tickets on the 9th in Town Hall in New York City and then in the coming months up in Wilbur. It is election day as you listen to this though.

Starting point is 00:03:59 Yeah. I don't know what it was but I just was scrolling and there was just so much on the timeline. And I just genuinely, truly was like, I would give anything to go back to the before days. Like before probably 2016, before Trump. Just like, and not politically. I'm not saying that politically. It's very funny funny by the way i have been shadow banned on instagram like a certain level of shadow ban locked at 551 000 followers

Starting point is 00:04:30 and just magically i gain and lose 2 000 followers in the same day every day there's just literally someone going gain 2 000 lose 2 000 every fucking day pulling their levers uh just locked in at 551 000 and then the last couple videos i I made were like one made fun of Kamala being like, not even made fun of Kamala, but I was just like, yeah, Joe Rogan shouldn't fly to her. Shoots up $1,000 like in a day. And then yesterday I made a video about Epstein and Trump and drop down to $550.

Starting point is 00:05:01 It's just like instant, instant. I can actually very much understand why people, while they're just like, well, that worked. I'm just going to keep doing that. But I'm the idiot who just does both and ends up losing. It's like I gained a little bit, but I ended up losing more by talking politics because I just didn't pick a lane and go through it.

Starting point is 00:05:19 Because one second I was like, Kamala is like, like not a big deal. Who gives a shit about her? And everyone was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I was like, Donald Trump hung out with Jeffrey Epstein for decades and was doing terrible shit. They're like, ah. The fact – this has been the thing that I've been preaching for a couple years now,

Starting point is 00:05:37 how people don't actually care about the aliens. They don't actually care about the victims of the Epstein. They just care about like the grand stories. I mean no greater example than this, that like there is just hundreds of hours of Epstein talking about Donald Trump podcast with the interview where you can hear him describe all of their interactions. And it's not like bombshell shit. He's not like he went to Little St. James with us and like fucked kids. He's not saying that stuff. So it's not like a smoking gun in that regard.

Starting point is 00:06:06 But it is the world's most notorious pedophile. For a story where like people have been like, if you were in a picture at the Oscars. If you're tangentially six degrees of separation. Like, I don't know, I just took a picture with a guy at the fucking Oscars. Right. And now this guy is like,

Starting point is 00:06:21 he was my best friend for 10 years. And he just told all the stories about how they used to run around town. Dude, Donald Trump, if these stories are true, so out of pocket, so crazy. First of all, the very first thing they put out there was Epstein talking about how Trump got scalp reduction surgery. Scalp reduction surgery? Not like hair transplant. Scalp reduction. I don't know really what transplant scalp reduction i don't know really what it what it means i don't know how that works i guess like if you were to like remove

Starting point is 00:06:50 the bald spot and maybe like pull the skin tighter or something i i do not know what scalp production he got the anti-yamaka surgery yeah basically yeah yeah but the fact that that was like the first thing that was out and probably the the thing that Donald Trump hates the most. People like saying that. Let's see. Procedure removes the bald area of the scalp and stretches the remaining hair. That's disgusting, dude. Oh, my God.

Starting point is 00:07:15 So you're not getting new hair. You're just stretching your... Oh, I can see. That's kind of what his hair looks like, right? Yeah. That second hair looks fucking goofy. He pulled his hair over the top and they say he refuses to release his medical records and like it's probably because of shit

Starting point is 00:07:29 like that they give you like a facelift too yeah it's probably it's basically like a facelift for your head kind of yeah um oh my god but then he said this is what trump would do trump would call his buddies and have his what their wives listening in on the phone call, be it on speakerphone or on like third line or second phone, whatever it is. And he would be like, yo, you want to fuck chicks? Like, let's do this. Like, I got Miss America pageants in town. I got the Hawaiian Tropic like calendar photo shoot. Like, we could fuck whoever we want let's do

Starting point is 00:08:05 it and they would be like okay cool down and then when the wife was like mad about it he'd be like you want to fuck me and he would fuck all of his friends wives that way that's one of the most twisted things i've ever heard in my life ever dude that's so crazy we he specifically of all the things he was like that's the most fucked up thing I've ever heard. Right. So the story was Michael Wolff, who is an author who has written like three or four books about Trump now. He has a podcast called Fire and Fury. And he did an interview with Epstein in like 2017.

Starting point is 00:08:39 So it was like right after Donald Trump took the White House before Epstein got arrested. And for whatever reason waited until like right now to drop it. I feel like if you wanted to sway the election one way or the other, you should have done it like probably like a year ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A full year because this is my point that nobody really cares or they just turn a blind eye. But so this guy – I'm at the point where I literally do not know anybody to trust anything at all anymore. Like every poll I see, every chart I see, every, every, I'm like, all of it's, you know, questionable. But this guy is, you know, basically made his career about Trump.

Starting point is 00:09:14 So, you know, however you want to, whether that means he's got an ax to grind against him or he just is reporting on him. I don't know. But he seems to have all this shit about epstein and trump and that was the main thing he was like he loved to fuck his friends wives and he would be like he would say it he'd be like i love to fuck them like like isn't that great that i can fuck their wives and but it's so twisted all around like like i can't see how it all lines up but like for the wife to just be like, okay, I'll fuck Donald Trump now.

Starting point is 00:09:46 It's like, but you got to fuck Donald Trump. You know, it's not like, you know, uh, like the, the pick of the litter when it comes to fucking people,

Starting point is 00:09:55 I wouldn't think. Um, and then, so the scalp, he fucked all the wives. He said they used to roll up to the, uh, casinos in Atlantic city and they would to roll up to the uh casinos in atlantic city and they would intentionally

Starting point is 00:10:06 break up couples so he clearly has some power shit where it's like i want i don't want women i want like your woman yeah i want to take a girl from this is epstein and epstein saying that him and donald trump he said we were best friends for a decade and we used to like run around town like partying and doing all our shit real estate deals hanging out in casinos flying to probably fucking little st james and he said that they would like roll up on a couple and epstein would kind of they had like a little two-man game where epstein would be like hey man you want like a tour of the casino and then uh trump would kind of swoop in on the woman and be like you're very beautiful like we want to show you like the suite and then his security guards they said would just

Starting point is 00:10:42 kind of like whisk them away and it would all of a sudden it would just be like your girl's gone and you're sitting there with like jeffrey epstein with your dick in your hand i don't know how that all like i guys like that are so fucking weird like like guys who have like a medical need for pussy like like you're so like it's all it's always 100 like a power thing yeah it's like i don't know like and then they're like what what, you're gay? What, because I don't want to fucking steal girls away? But yeah, because there's also another level. I know guys who want, at least when we were younger, were obsessed with getting laid every night out.

Starting point is 00:11:17 Literally the worst hangs. But those guys were also just looking for, hopefully, just other single women at the bar who wanted to fuck also. To be like, I need to steal someone's wife or girl. But if you're going out, I think anyone who goes out with, I'm fucking it. Be it stealing. Stealing is obviously a level up. Or just like, I gotta fuck. There's something wrong with you.

Starting point is 00:11:38 Guys or girls. I'm sure girls do it too. Dr. Tug is getting jerked off first. Your brain still feels that way. I don't know. Just go hang out with people and see where they go. Holy shit. Who's that guy?

Starting point is 00:11:47 That guy needs scalp reduction surgery. Holy shit. Are there girls like that? Who are like, I am getting dick tonight. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like probably not like every night, right? It's probably like I just broke up with someone. I need to get laid sort of thing.

Starting point is 00:11:59 Whereas there are guys who are like every single time if I don't close a girl, like it's a failure of a night. I don't know how much that exists anymore. Do you think that exists as much? I'm sure it does. Does it? Because I feel like you guys don't do that. You don't go out trying to get numbers and girls and get laid, right?

Starting point is 00:12:15 It's all apps and shit. No, yeah. A lot of apps, I would say. Anytime one of my buddies says he's going on a date tonight, it's usually from an app. I feel like those guys are probably just doing all the groundwork. It's actually probably better to I feel like those guys are probably just doing all the groundwork. It's actually probably better to hang out with those guys now

Starting point is 00:12:27 because rather than being obsessed with it at the bar, it's like they've been doing it on the app for like five hours pre-show. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:12:33 But then it's like hanging out with Gaz. We've got to go to this bar and talk to a girl there. Right, yeah. You're just like a

Starting point is 00:12:38 third wheel. You're on a double date at that point. I'm taking my jacket off and putting it on a chair. I'm where I'm going to be for the whole

Starting point is 00:12:44 night. That is the sign. We're going nowhere. I'm on this jacket man but is it more for like validation or is it because like just like yeah yeah no i think that's all about it's not just like i want to get my dick wet because it feels good it's all about you know attention and from the guys i know who used to do it they 100 100% did not feel like men and thought that. They were either kind of nerdy or skinny or like dorks. Oh, really? Mine are the opposite. They were all like meatheads, but I don't even think it was more like I'm going to get

Starting point is 00:13:15 laid and you're not. If you get laid, I'm going to get a hotter girl. If you get one, I'm going to get two. It was just like a competition with other guys. Oh, really? I probably only knew two. They were for sure. get two it was just like a competition with other guys oh really i didn't i probably knew they were they were like for sure i have like two that really stick out and they were both like they both definitively did not think that they were men in the traditional sense really yeah really

Starting point is 00:13:35 and and did they get a lot of pussy one did one didn't because i'll tell you what the like the worst thing is being that guy and not fucking yeah at least those guys can be like be like, you have crazy sex stories, you've hooked up with beautiful chicks. At least there's some side of that. If you're that guy and failing. Even the one that did would end up dating them for like two weeks. So he couldn't just hit it and quit it sort of thing. Yeah, that's like the people I know who did that were also the same guys that I was telling like they were screaming

Starting point is 00:14:09 about each other's W2s while they fought each other they're those kind of guys yeah exactly it's all comparisons it's all like a man makes more money it's either literal or figurative dick measuring yeah that sounds like just the worst I mean I lived with them it was truly the worst like the worst yeah I lived with them. It was truly the worst.

Starting point is 00:14:25 Like, the worst. Yeah, I lived with that for a little while. But it was fun. It was fun for, like, a minute. And then I was like, I can't live like this. Like, this is crazy. But anyway, back to this Epstein shit. Like, nobody cares.

Starting point is 00:14:43 No. Like, we've been clamoring about the Epstein list and the Epstein this and that. Who – like you said, if you are even tangentially related to it, it's like this black mark on your career where people throw it in your face every two seconds. And it's like here is in Jeffrey – even just like hearing Jeffrey Epstein talk, you think people would be like interested in that because it's like you guys are obsessed with this dude like go listen to what you're fucking you know they it's like nobody actually cares i i think this one anything i would i would venture to guess the people who are obsessed with epstein list from what i see from people i know and people who like trump are like the venn diagrams circle so like that's why no one cares.

Starting point is 00:15:25 Right. Well, I already didn't care about that story. Well, how about this, though? You are. I think they dropped like over the weekend. So seven, maybe five days out of the election. And you find out that your competitor has like direct ties to the most notorious pedophile ever. And I don't say a fucking word about it because because the clintons are right

Starting point is 00:15:45 there so you know that kamala and her team are like fuck we could just you know they could hammer they could have just hammered that for the final week being like this man hung out directly with the biggest pedophile forever for 10 straight years and they just can't say a word about it because you know the other side of it would be... Do you think you would... This might not be a PC question, but would he lose more voters if it came out that he fucked a kid

Starting point is 00:16:12 or if he came out that he fucked a guy? Wow. Great question. That is a great question. It's sickening that it's a great question. I would guess it's kids. I'm pretty sure it's kids. But the fact that it's kind of close.

Starting point is 00:16:26 How about this? Donald Trump fucked a 17-year-old girl or Donald Trump fucked a guy? Guy. Yeah. It would be worse. They would be able to be like, well, in some states it's legal and like consent of law, blah, blah, blah. But even that, I just – we have reached a point where nothing matters to people if like they have an agenda. They have a guy.

Starting point is 00:16:59 They have a cause. They have a team. They have a band. They have whatever their like is and their dislike is facts that come out like or or more information like it does not matter yeah i think all like you it's a first impressions matter thing right like you like i like this person and then like the world we live in now every day you're getting a new story about something yeah and you kind of get used to being like explaining it away yeah that's what i mean like like if if if i i think part of trump's allure to people who kind of like

Starting point is 00:17:31 believed he was going to like get rid of the hollywood pedophiles and get rid of the corrupt politicians and and they like that right and that is like yeah if someone could do that that would be like a good thing right but then the guy that that said he's going to do that, like, is these things. Yeah, well, most accusations are admissions. Yeah, right, right. And rather, but the fact that people can't just go like, oh, shit, like he's one of them too. Fuck, like we have to pivot to someone else. Or like, I don't like him anymore.

Starting point is 00:18:03 Like, they just take their fucking nails out. And it's, i i mean i don't want to make it political because it really is about everything it's like you know your favorite athlete could do something your favorite team your favorite anything that people like these days it is there is a full-blown incapability to just change based on information yeah i mean i think that's been a long time. Yeah. But, like, it's, like, everything. You know, I always think about everything, that the world's been that way for a while. It's just more obvious now.

Starting point is 00:18:33 We know it because we can see it. Yeah. But, like, if there was, this, these Epstein tapes are very, like I said, they're more, like, character witness type of information. Yeah. It's not like he's doing anything like illegal at least on the tapes that are out uh but it would be like i don't really think that guy's a great guy let alone like should run the country sort of thing you know um but like i i do wonder like like how far like like jackie just said like how far would it need to go and on the other side too like what what would how far would it need to go and on the

Starting point is 00:19:05 other side too like what what would carl harris need to do for people to be like okay never mind like they're not the right person for this i don't know you would have to go you would need to be like live footage in the middle of time square fuck a kid anything else will be ai AI, deep fake, you know, targeting, you're targeting us for the, like, you know, what,

Starting point is 00:19:27 what, however they explain it away. It's crazy. I, I just can't believe that. It's like, they, how can you,

Starting point is 00:19:35 if you're like, if you're one of those people that's like obsessed about the Epstein, anything Epstein, and then this comes out and you're just like, well, I don't know. Nevermind. I just can't. Should we pull up dante's

Starting point is 00:19:45 tweet on the matter yeah like i wonder what a guy like him is did he tweet i'm sure he didn't yeah if i had to guess yeah yeah yeah well i mean it's funny that it's just and i guess this is where uh you know it is a little you're in a little bit of a pickle if you are like a hardcore liberal who is like on the other side because clinton is so attached to him that you can't but i also like if that was their reasoning for not bringing it up i think that's dumb like i wouldn't say that clinton's been too attached to this campaign yeah to me it's like they they they uh if anything you can condemn them too and just be yeah yeah fuck them also yeah whatever you know but but it is uh but i'm more and i'm also more just talking about like again politics aside whoever you vote for all good

Starting point is 00:20:28 uh i just can't believe that like you can put out this should be like a bombshell thing it was like i didn't realize by the time i got to it it was out for two days yeah like i never saw this i saw this like last thursday maybe yeah maybe. Yeah, like no – nothing. I mean you got to think that that guy Michael Wolff was like thinking he was going to like win the election or sway the election to the last second. He's probably like nobody cares. I don't think – I don't know what the reasoning behind putting it out. But I agree with you. We're like if you're putting it out now, it's too late.

Starting point is 00:21:05 It's way too late. People have literally already cast their votes, a lot of people. So I don't know if it was one of those things like this is my last chance to get a little bit of juice out of it before he wins or loses. I don't know. But there was also like a direct quote from Steve Bannon there being like, Jeffrey Epstein was the only person I was worried about because he was the only one that could directly torpedo this this campaign what more there's a reason why he's saying that

Starting point is 00:21:32 absolutely nuts man but it's the same thing like I said with like aliens and all the other things it's like okay now here's like read about it and like learn about it or like here's the proof or the non-proof and it's like no no no no we no, no, no. We just want to keep yelling about things.

Starting point is 00:21:47 Let's go. Crazy town. Oh, I want to talk to you about this, Jackie. Olivia Rodrigo went viral for her criteria for dating guys. She said she asks them a very specific question. And if they say yes, they're full of themselves and they're out she says she asks guys do would you go to space if you were offered the opportunity and if they say yes it's a huge red flag she thinks they're too full of themselves and you're out yeah i saw this i i i

Starting point is 00:22:21 love olivia rodrigo but this i was very confused on because I don't really understand what about it is. I see where she's coming from. Yeah, I see it. Like, currently, right now, the people who are actively trying to go to space are egomaniacs and losers. But if you ask me, would you want to go to space? And I'm like, I don't know. Sure. I would be like, it's my goal. I'm not like space? And I'm like, I don't know. Sure. I wouldn't be like, it's my goal.

Starting point is 00:22:46 I'm not like Bezos where I'm like, it's my goal. I'm destroying mom and pop shops so I can have $100 million for one quick shot to the moon. But if it got popular enough and I could just buy a ticket? Yeah, check out space. It just became like travel in a way, like a little bit more grand, glamorous travel. I think a better way to describe it would be crypto guys yeah right there are quicker ways to get to the kind of person you're looking for yeah you're asking the like two or three questions away yeah but like the next question

Starting point is 00:23:15 is like what crypto coins do you own and then he starts telling you about his crypto wallet you're like now i don't want to do yeah if he speaks about it passionately no if he's like yeah what i was going to say was i think a better one, a better example would be like would you get in those submarines to go to the bottom of the ocean? Because that is like you will probably die doing it. But you're so obsessed with this idea of like I'm the only one who's done it or like – you know what I mean? Like those guys are all like – Yeah. I'm the only one who's done it or like, you know what I mean? Like those guys are all like, there's no one's ever gone this deep before or like I'm the only person that can say that I've done this.

Starting point is 00:23:50 And the only reason you do that is to come back up to the surface and say that shit. And you're willing to risk like you and your son's life where you just get imploded in like two seconds. Whereas like space is relatively, you know, it is kind of dangerous, but it's like you probably could go up there and it would be all right. Yeah. But it's more like, but it's like you probably could go up there and it would be all right yeah but it's more like are you how far are you willing to go to just be a

Starting point is 00:24:08 i did that asshole i guess well i mean like you could do it on a planet earth with zero gravity but like i'd be like oh this is kind of crazy we're floating like that doesn't happen in the summer yeah yeah there's there's some cool you get a better view you see some you get to float around yeah somewhere you don't see anything. It's just black. You might be lucky enough to see a fish swim by. You know what I – No, but there's so many – I could like get down with it because there's so many crazy animals.

Starting point is 00:24:34 But you're not – like unless you have a farm of them down there, like I'm just hoping there's a one in a million chance some fish I've never seen swims by. Yeah. That's so true. At least in the space, I get to see like the view of earth the top shows flat and all that yeah uh she uh did she catch heat for this or are the women like i think that she caught it caught some heat for it um i think like a lot of what i saw is a lot of women were like wait i would want to go to space so like this is not well that is where i was wondering.

Starting point is 00:25:06 She gendered space is what she did. And we don't gender things here. Space is definitely a dude thing. But, I mean, currently, yeah, you got the Moss, the Bezos. No, no, no. But I just mean, like, you know how, like, cats are girls and dogs are boys? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Space is a boy thing.

Starting point is 00:25:22 I would, yeah, I guess, like like i don't think me and my sisters discuss space too much as a kid although i wasn't really much of a space guy either like i you're gay but like you know and that's but that's where i think like the women who are like astronauts or science into science and shit are probably like almost offended by that in a way but i do think of space as like a dude i see i again i see what she's getting at and she's trying to target the annoying group of yeah yeah yeah i stand by that i don't think it was executed and i don't think that that question is a very i love space but i don't think i'd go i think so i think i think i'm fascinated by it but i'm like I could watch that shit from afar.

Starting point is 00:26:05 I don't need to. It's hard to go to space. I don't think you can just, like, go to space. I think you have to be in, like, decent amount of shape and, like, not train for it, but, like, prepare for it. I don't think it's that hard. You think you can just throw someone. I guess Shatner went, right? Yeah, he was, like, ninth. I think the threshold to get, I hope you get to space. Well, there's also like differences in like some of these guys just like pop like right above the board.

Starting point is 00:26:30 Yeah. Like if you get up into orbit and you're like floating around and shit, you're talking about, I think you've got to like prepare. Oh, to like go live on the space station. Yeah. But like the little blue origin stuff. Yeah. It's literally. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:26:42 But, you know, even that, I feel like there's some level of like, you know, I don't like when my ears pop on the airplane. We're probably going like three times that, right? Like, to me, it's... Do you think that Olivia Rodrigo or Serena Carpenter is more famous? I was waiting to say that. I had this debate all weekend. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:27:02 Oh, I felt this one as well. I think it's... You said more famous is the question? More famous. I thought Olivia Rodrigo was, like, going to be, phew, the next one. And then I think she got... I don't know if... To me, from my viewpoint, as soon as she caught a lot of those plagiarizing hits, I feel like

Starting point is 00:27:19 she kind of, like, disappeared for a little bit. Because I thought she was, like, going to be the one. And now I think Sabrina Carpenter has... I also think... She's on stage with Taylor. She's like clearly Taylor's like in the Swifty crowd which I think makes you be that much more famous. I think it's Chappell Rohn's the one. Chappell Rohn's the one. Yeah. I think Olivia Rodrigo just never made music for

Starting point is 00:27:37 the radio. I think she just made music. I think Chappell Rohn's going to flame out. Really? I don't know. I thought maybe her SNL was crazy. I texted you.'d like to go watch it right away it was like i texted you like midnight chaperone is burning down 30 rock uh posted or performed performed performed if she like i the second song i wasn't when she canceled all those yeah i didn't really i although i think i kind of like the juxtaposition i think it's about eating pussy but it's like country twang is it the country that's kind of kind of like the juxtaposition. I think it's about eating pussy, but it's like country twang.

Starting point is 00:28:06 That's kind of cool. But the Pink Pony Club performance was a smash. I was like, oh, I get it. When we drove to Jersey, it was Owen fights and I, and then Pink Pony Club came on for the fourth time, and I was like, it just keeps getting better. Owen has a playlist of like five songs. Five songs. We drove in the car for four hours that day. For the past three months, he's played of like five songs like five songs we drove in the car for four hours

Starting point is 00:28:25 three months he's played the same five songs um that that the the video of taylor and sabrina carpenter on the stage together i thought yeah like i thought my eyeballs were like out of whack how come because she's so tall and sabrina carpenter also wears those dresses that like cut off. That looks ridiculous. That looks crazy. That looks like it's like AI or something. That is crazy.

Starting point is 00:28:58 I also think that one line, all because I liked a boy, like fucked Olivia Rodrigo's. What did she say? Like Sabrina's. There was like the whole Olivia versus Sabrina feud. Oh, they were kind of. It was a boy. Because there was over a whole Olivia versus Sabrina feud. Oh, they were kind of, it was a boy. Because there was over a boy. Right, right. Who also is like bi.

Starting point is 00:29:10 And I feel like if he were to use that line all because I liked a boy, that would be such a good guy. Who, is it Shawn Mendes? No, not Shawn Mendes. But also. Similar guy. Well, he just, the reason I thought that is because he just had like. Joshua Bassett, I guess. I don't know him.

Starting point is 00:29:24 But Shawn Mendes had like this weekend. He's like, I'm still figuring out my sexuality or whatever. He did? Yeah. Bro, let me help you out, Shawn Mendes. Let me and the entire world for the last decade help you figure it out. You're buying. You're into dudes.

Starting point is 00:29:38 It's okay. I mean like that – if Shawn Mendes came out, I think people would be like, cool, man. I don't even know what he did. I think that announcement would get like a dozen. I don't know who Shawn Mendes is except for the guy who's not sure if he's straight or gay. No, he had some bangers. You could definitely play songs that I'd be like, oh, I know that song. I thought he was really good.

Starting point is 00:30:02 Oh, yeah. But I don't know. He hasn't followed it up with much because I think he's just busy trying to figure out. It's like Elaine with George. You're bald. You're gay, Sean. Just do it, man. I already thought that he had kind of come out.

Starting point is 00:30:19 Yeah, yeah. That is wild to me. Talk to me. Dude, speaking of SNL, Mulaney's opening bit in his thing, he just described my life. Wait, what was it again? He's talking about how he's old and he has to go to a physical therapist.

Starting point is 00:30:37 But the only difference is he goes with two older women and I didn't go with anyone. And he's like, I have a torn labrum in my hip and I go and I have to do little sit-ups with older women. he's like, I have a torn labrum in my hip. And I go and I have to do little sit-ups with older women. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And the physical therapist has told me that it's probably not worth it for me because I'm just going to need a new hip. And he's like, I'm going to need a new hip.

Starting point is 00:30:56 And my mom's going to pick me up from the surgery. I was like, that's it. It's just my life right now. Dude, my brother got hip surgery. uh all my shit by the way turned out to be a staph infection it's all good i mean it's not all we're still getting there but like i don't know i we probably could have like saved me like the worst 10 days of my goddamn life if they just like figured out that it was an infection and gave me an iv of antibiotics it's so funny that you told this story.

Starting point is 00:31:26 I thought that you were going to end up being like, and by the way, it wasn't anything to worry about, and it's all cleared up. But you were like, anyways, I don't know what it is. Well, yeah, at that point, I think just because of where it was, everyone thought it was like an STD, and then that came back negative, and then they took longer to get the results. But I don't know.

Starting point is 00:31:45 I've heard of staph infection before. Yeah. And I thought, and it is, I can tell you it's bad, but I thought when you have staph infection, like you're in like trouble, like it's dangerous. Yeah. The other friend who was in the hospital for like a month. Yeah. I think, well, I think it would be against the MRSA.

Starting point is 00:31:57 MRSA, the S in MRSA I think is staph. Yeah. So it's like something resistant staph. So it's like when you can't, when the antibiotics aren't fixing the staph infection and you're in trouble. And so when I heard that, I was like, now I'm like a little nervous. But it was like they gave me like an antifungal cream. They're like, yeah, those will fix it. It's like they gave me an antibiotic for a bacterial infection and then prescribed me a fungus cream.

Starting point is 00:32:24 And I was like those are different fucking things guys and i'm not a goddamn doctor how am i you know totally botched job but more importantly it was just like they were asking me do you like did you get injured did you get cut did you are you uh do you go outdoors you like hike do you in the you know spots where there's bacteria and you could get injured and blah blah and i was like none of that but i just i don't know you just get old and shit happens to you like my brother was the same pants a few days but like i'm texting my brother like how's his hip surgery and he's asking me like how's my skin infection it's just like it's just when you younger, there's just less time for shit to have happened to you.

Starting point is 00:33:07 You know what I mean? It's like you're old, your body's breaking down, but it's also just like eventually bad shit's going to happen to you. You just got to be on the earth for 40 more years. You've only been around for 20 years. By the time you're on for another 15, some shit's going to happen. Socks. I just sent you an Instagram story that I posted. Can you put that on the – because as much as you might be Mulaney,

Starting point is 00:33:28 I think this monkey more describes John. Because I found this monkey on Instagram, and not only was it the video that jumped out at me, but the caption. It was from the Instagram account, Beautiful World. Did your uncle with monkey alerts send it to you? No, but we did get one recently. Oh, yeah? Yep.

Starting point is 00:33:48 What did he say? He's good for like literally one week, huh? Multiple. Yeah. Infinite monkey theorem challenged by Australian mathematicians. Infinite monkey theorem? Yeah, let's see. Monkeys will never type Shakespeare study finds.

Starting point is 00:34:03 I always thought that was weird anyway. I didn't know what that meant. The whole, like, if you put a bunch of monkeys in front of a computer, they'll eventually type Hamlet? Yeah. No, they won't. I know. They said that. It's just, like...

Starting point is 00:34:13 We haven't even fucking put a deck of cards in the same order it's ever been in before. Like, you're going to type Hamlet? Wait, what does that even mean? It's just, like, I think that's almost more to describe how long Infinity is, where it's like, they just mash buttons. Eventually, they will mash in the right order to write all of Hamlet. I just don't. I genuinely don't think that's true. Like, even if it's Infinity, even if it's 100 billion years.

Starting point is 00:34:38 Like, at one point, some monkey's going to hit the wrong fucking key. Look at this monkey just eating his fucking ice cream and the caption is an elderly monkey sits calmly savoring a stick of ice cream with peaceful contentment its wise weathered face softens with each bite clearly enjoying the simple treat this quiet moment reflects a sense of tranquility as if the world around fades away leaving just the monkey and its cool sweet indulgence and i was like take out monkey and put in john that is his and everybody's like life isn't so bad oh maybe i will survive another day i'm gonna have another one of this bro i i mean i i don't

Starting point is 00:35:17 know you saw i replied to you i was like i just this morning i rolled over first thing i did was i got a peanut butter cup and then second thing i did was grab my phone and i looked at my phone and saw that i was like i'm chewing a peanut butter cup right now like eight o'clock in the morning just like i was fully in bed just like it is like the way that i feel like when you're eating there's some people like it looks like they're focused on the food some people like it looks like they're focused on the food. Some people like it looks like they're focused on like other things. And you look like there's no thoughts in your head when you eat. Specifically, that's what this monkey looks like.

Starting point is 00:35:51 But that's what I look like all the time. No. Because like sometimes you're sitting there and you could tell that there's stuff you're having conversations about. But then it seems to all kind of vanish. I don't know. It's a very, it's just like, it's a very specific thing. It's like your nirvana. It's like, it's like all kind of vanish. I don't know. It's a very specific thing. It's like your nirvana.

Starting point is 00:36:07 It's like, honestly, guys, eating is an incredible pleasure. It's the best. Why are you doing the Nate hands? I'm trying to point at the TV. Eating is an incredible pleasure. The Nate hands, by the way, you have to cuff them. Cuff them a little bit. You're not Italian talking with your hands.

Starting point is 00:36:26 You have to squeeze your fingers together and your thumb, and you just make a little bit of a cup. I also just watched the wrist guards clip. Do you remember that at all? That was one of my favorite clips of KFC Radio. No. The guy who said he fucked Obama. Oh, yeah.

Starting point is 00:36:43 I don't even know if like I found it Nate is kind of like imagine if he's but anyway continue but there's there's no difference

Starting point is 00:36:51 between like eating and having sex like what what do you think about when you're having sex yeah nothing how good this feels

Starting point is 00:36:56 food lasts longer I'm like oh this is fucking unbelievable that's how I eat I eat like I fuck I lay there and I enjoy it all these um

Starting point is 00:37:04 you see how like these women these moms are like banding together to get rid of the unhealthy foods in America because of like Red 40 and all those extra things we put in? Yeah. I don't know what you're talking about. I know that. So like if you get like Froot Loops in like Australia and the United Kingdom, even like our version of that is like even worse. Yeah. kingdom even like our our version of that is like even worse yeah like they they they have you know it's still like a sugary cereal but they're like we're not gonna put the poisons in there you know right but i'm also like i think that makes it the good good good you know like i think the reason

Starting point is 00:37:37 why those those food experiences you're having i think are probably the poisons i i said i don't i don't think australia people run around, it's like fucking, it's like sex. It's like breakfast to them. I've said that before. I went to a farm in Portugal where they slaughtered the cow an hour ago, and then they bring us the meat, and I was like, this fucking sucks. This is terrible. I can't taste any pesticides in here.

Starting point is 00:38:05 Give me the process. Whatever makes me able to ship across a 3,000-mile country. Yeah, no preservatives. Organic fruit sucks. Sucks. So bad. Sucks, man. Grass-fed beef from Trader Joe's stinks.

Starting point is 00:38:15 Bro, you ever seen the grass-fed, like, what we think it means versus what it really means? No. Like, I thought grass-fed was like, you're just out there roaming the fields eating grass no no no you're still tied up they just dump grass on your head it was crazy dude i was like that is not what i thought grass fed meant just a fucking truck dumps a ton of gas grass and it's like it is you're trying to catch drowning the only reason you're eating it is because you would drown in it otherwise. This cow wouldn't be able to breathe, so it had to eat all the grass.

Starting point is 00:38:48 I was like, God, I wish I didn't see that. That's disappointing. R.I.P. to Peanut. You hear about Peanut the squirrel? I've heard about this a little bit. No, no, no. It's P apostrophe nut. From what I understand, it all makes a pretty good deal of sense.

Starting point is 00:39:04 Is that? No, no. Well, here's what happened. i what i understand it makes it all makes a pretty good deal of sense is that no no i don't well here's what happened so first of all the fact that this all leads back to only fans i don't know if you guys know that they this couple the the the they're all tatted up the girl looks like a blonde bonnie rotten and they fuck on only fans okay and they were using their pet squirrels to funnel all their traffic to OnlyFans, which is just fucking hilarious. Wait, they were what? Like they have a pet squirrel that went viral. And then on that account, they would be like, check out this. Okay, I see.

Starting point is 00:39:37 Which is just like the internet in a nutshell where it's like this animal went viral. You ran the account for it, and you use it to make money on your fuck site. This is 2024 in a nutshell. So these guys, these two, have like an animal sanctuary. They have like 300 animals on their uh on their their property and this one peanut the squirrel went like super viral because it's like a pet pet they put it in costumes and they can like you know it's like having like a little dog um and they believe that once people found out that they were using it to promote OnlyFans.

Starting point is 00:40:25 There was, like, anonymous tips being, like, these are, you know, they're, like, mistreating these animals or, like, there's, like, some illegal shit going on. Uh-huh. So then they went to the, to, like, their property and were fucking around with Peanut. And Peanut bit him, bit one of the cops, apparently. Right.

Starting point is 00:40:45 And the cop was like, we need to, you know, I might get rabies and they put him down. But I don't think they should have been there in the first place, the cops. But, like,

Starting point is 00:40:59 if people file complaints about animal mistreatment, you gotta investigate it. Yeah, but I don't think there was any. Like, this, I think Peanut is living the fucking dream. But you've got to investigate it. I guess.

Starting point is 00:41:11 But if you roll... This is like... It's like, you know... It's like... Well, no. I was going to say. I was going to make a comparison that is not true at all. But if you go in and you botch your fucking investigation...

Starting point is 00:41:24 But I don't know if they botched it the squirrel bit him well yeah if you fucking roll up and you start fucking with some animals they're gonna bite you I think it's like they're just living on a farm I think if you get calls about

Starting point is 00:41:40 animal mistreatment you should investigate them and then if you get bit by something you gotta check I think there was a but I think the problem was there was a raccoon that they searched that for me because i think that's what happened is they had a raccoon and people didn't like that but then it's like all right fine get rid of the raccoon let peanut live bro like like don't fuck with the you know it's like, he's not executed by the state. It's crazy. They've raised $150,000.

Starting point is 00:42:14 Yeah. Oh, they're obviously scam artists. But more the fact that people are donating, dude. Yeah, I mean, that's. What do you even don't? They were like, we're going to spend this money on an animal sanctuary. It's like, yeah, fucking right.

Starting point is 00:42:30 Dude, and I wouldn't even blame them. If I had a pet squirrel and somebody killed it and all of a sudden money was rolling in like that and I'd be like, yeah, yeah, I'm going to give it to the squirrel society, bro. Sure. If you guys want to give me a hundred...

Starting point is 00:42:43 Okay, let's read the fucking... Seven-year- peanut and fred the raccoon were euthanized uh officers raided my house as if it was a drug dealer i sat outside my house for five hours i had to get a police escort to my bathroom i wasn't even allowed to feed my rescue horses breakfast or lunch i sit sat there like a criminal after being interrogated my wife check out her immigration status then proceeded that might be something too there might be political shit going on here. Then proceeded to ask me if I had cameras in my house, then proceeded to go through every cabinet nook and cranny of my house looking for a squirrel and a raccoon. They got a search warrant for departments, and a judge signed off on a search warrant for a squirrel and a raccoon, and they took them and killed them.

Starting point is 00:43:18 There's something more going on here. Well, I think the big thing is it bit someone, and you have to find out if the animal has rabies. I think you should kill a squirrel. No, but I don't think the... The only way to do that is to kill it. I think the guy that got bit was the police during the raid. Right. But don't fucking raid my house!

Starting point is 00:43:38 But if they're... If Peanut was running around biting people, then I understand that. But they're just on their animal sanctuary. You can't just make some shit up, then have a police raid go bad and kill my animals. I think you can. I think if a person gets bit and might get rabies, you got to find out if it has rabies. No, it got bit because of the raid, though. It's not like...

Starting point is 00:43:59 That's fucking your fault. But it's still got... You can't let a person get rabies you gotta find out the end was rabies i think you're totally wrong on this one you come in my house and fuck with my shit and then you kill my shit because well i'm not saying it's good but you gotta find out at the end wise rabies it's an unfortunate you you figure out you have rabies bro you got bit do you have rabies leave my fucking animal the only way to figure that out you have to cut off the head.

Starting point is 00:44:26 Yeah, check the brain. You've got to cut off your head now, bro. Listen, me and my family, we're good. No rabies here. If you think you have it, you can chop your fucking head off. I will side with the life of a human over a squirrel. I'll take that brave stance. But also, I don't think there's any reason to think that this animal that is on fucking camera all the time has rabies.

Starting point is 00:44:58 Like, this thing is a viral sensation. I don't think a rabid squirrel would have a huge social media presence. I don't know. I don't know I don't know I think why would you think that animalized rapist so are you saying they like went to go kill like the police were like we're gonna go kill peanut I don't know why they did I don't know why any of this is happening I don't know why anybody called them in the first place just let these weirdos fucking have

Starting point is 00:45:21 pet squirrels I think every step is logical. I think it's insane to bother these people. I think you guys are crazy. These people just live on a farm with a bunch of animals, and they fuck. It actually sounds like a delightful life. But if you get a bunch of calls saying, I don't know how. I could just make that up.

Starting point is 00:45:40 But you have to investigate calls. Why? That's what the police do yeah but but then if you botch the investigation i think botching the investigation is a little strong john's in the house committing crimes and they roll in there and they fucking shoot you and it's like well we had to investigate it we had to investigate it but that like but nope somebody called they waited to shoot me they waited to shoot me until i bit them well if they were fucking rolling up on your shit for no reason what's going on in this house and then i

Starting point is 00:46:11 fucking bit them then they shot me if they were if they were like you know you if they if they thought john had rabies i mean there's no reason to think any of this just leave people alone why the fuck are the cops running up in someone's house but that's what cops do i don't think you just call and then have you know what i mean just because somebody calls and says i mean i don't know you go you look and be like i don't know he's making a bunch of videos i don't know all the steps here but it feels like someone called the police and then the police investigated and a police officer got bit and they had to find out if it had rabies like Because he's not trained in squirrel. Yeah, I wouldn't go

Starting point is 00:46:48 around touching fucking animals. I would not be fucking with these animals. I don't want to have a strong stance because I'm learning about this now. Don't you just test yourself for rabies? No. It's your brain. You have to check the brain. If you have rabies, there's no way to find out until you start being afraid of water, there's no way to find out until you have, like, until you start being, like, afraid of water and shit.

Starting point is 00:47:07 So the only, like, way to stay alive. But whether or not, so, like, if I get bit by an animal with rabies, it doesn't matter. I still have to get treated for rabies, right? I know. If they find out the animal has rabies, it's like. I think there's a point where it's, like, once you feel symptoms, it's too late, I think. Yeah, I think you're right. I think. i think uh so like we gotta whack this guy now but why wouldn't you just get treated for like if i got if i got bit by a random animal i'd be

Starting point is 00:47:33 like just give me the rabies shit now just in case yeah i'd rather get ahead of that one than wait for the uh the the the peanut i i don't i don't know here too i'm also a part of my my reasoning here is i'm just gonna take the word of the people who are not on the side of the only fans farmer owners owners i feel like they're probably in it for attention i don't i don't i do think it's like okay you're like it's all about the phrasing like if you're getting famous for this animal and you also have an only fans it's like the same as like if you got famous for one thing and then you want to sell merch like to you got anybody's bothering these people at all yeah like i don't think it's a crime to like unless they're literally using the squirrel in their only thing that might be a problem but if

Starting point is 00:48:23 you're if you're having separate faint and you're like, oh, well, by the way, if you like us, we also have an OnlyFans, you might like that content. If you like this squirrel in a cowboy hat. I don't know. There could be like a crossover. I don't think that that's a... That honestly, it shows just how like horny people are where it's like, oh, like I love this.

Starting point is 00:48:41 This is a cute animal account. Wait a minute. I can watch somebody fuck? Yeah. Okay. $9.99 a month? Okay. I love this. This is a cute animal account. Wait a minute. I can watch them be fucked. Yeah. Okay. $9.99 a month? Okay. I'm good.

Starting point is 00:48:49 I'll get my peanut fix over here. So how did they end up there? How did it all start? Let's see. Why were the police called? Peanut, known for his cowboy six different officers from the preventable came to his door seizing peanut see like even that like them using the word raid first six cops showed up that's a different thing i don't i think six cops showing up in your house is pretty fucking

Starting point is 00:49:21 when i hear raid i'm thinking like a raid i mean i guess that's i guess so but i think six police officers showing up for a fucking squirrel is insanity absolutely insane yeah i i would agree with that i'm sure again since we're using words that are inflammatory i i would guess like why do the authorities take peanut the dec said it launched an investigation involving reports of potentially unsafe housing of wildlife that could carry rabies and the illegal keeping of wildlife as pets. Longo claims that Peanut, who was unfit for the release due to lack of survival skills, was being... Yeah, I don't know. I feel like these people just have like a bunch of weird pets.

Starting point is 00:49:59 Maybe it started just like... Also, you can see, like... I mean, I guess if it's one of those things where it's like he's behind the scenes like whipping Peanut. Like get in front of the camera. And even then it's like – It seems like it's no different than like owning a monkey. I don't know what pets are legal to own and what pets aren't. But a monkey can like rip you and other people's faces off.

Starting point is 00:50:21 I'm not saying I agree with the law. I'm just saying it seems like it's an illegal pet. Yeah, Fred the raccoon was also part of this. I think the raccoon was probably more the issue. I bet people don't like raccoons. I don't think people have a problem with squirrel. But if they seem happy...

Starting point is 00:50:37 How do you catch one and domesticate it? Oh, my buddy's dad used to catch squirrels all the time. My grandfather used to just... But then how do you make it like you? Oh, that I's dad used to catch squirrels all the time. My grandfather used to just... It's like a squirrel trap. Oh. But then how do you make it like you? Oh, that I don't know. Food. My grandfather used to...

Starting point is 00:50:51 My grandfather used to just like... He would like sit at the park and just like hold peanuts and these... And fucking squirrels would come up to him. Yeah, I think it's pretty easy. I think they're pretty food motivated. And then, you know, you just bring them in the house and be like, if you wear this hat, I'll give you more nuts. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:51:04 Just like put on this cowboy hat hat you can have some more peanuts justice for peanut justice for this couple fuck the police i also want to say like i'm not anti peanut but like i do understand the order of operations yeah exactly right you know peanut seems like a perfectly pleasant world but like every step i'm like that makes sense nobody ever calls the police on you guys and i hope if they do that you guys get shot well i don't know someone called the police on me this is how it happens folks first it's peanut and then it's you know black americans yeah that's right you guys are pro you guys are pro what you're telling me is you're pro police shooting is what you are brianna stewart john and jack you're like, fuck that girl. Somebody call the police. If I,

Starting point is 00:51:45 if I, yeah, if like somebody like called the cops on me and then I like came and injected them with a needle. What if it was a dog?

Starting point is 00:51:54 What if they just If my dog bit a cop, I'd be like, you probably can't do that, dude. If the police showed up at your house, if the police showed up

Starting point is 00:52:03 at your house and Maddie, when she was alive, bit a cop and they killed her, you would not, you wouldn't just be like, well, I don't know, the cops came in. I wouldn't be thrilled, but I'd be like, I get it. The dog bit you. You guys are nuts. No, no. Like, I just like, I don't like, I get the fear of having like rabies, of having having an animal bite you that typically has rabies. If my dog barked and then they shot it, I'd be pretty unhappy.

Starting point is 00:52:29 I feel like we could be pretty sure that Fred and Peanut, who are probably more famous than all of us, don't have rabies. I think you would know if these animals have fucking rabies. They're typically animals that have rabies. They have rabies vaccines. Yeah, they have rabies, but dogs don't. that rabies they have rabby vaccines yeah they have rabies but dogs don't like they're on camera all the time like that's why you're not supposed to we just don't see them on camera they would be just because they're on camera but you could get rabies last week sure i guess because they're not i guess so i guess that these these animals

Starting point is 00:53:02 that probably live better lives than us inside of the house would get rabies randomly. I guess that could happen, yes. It's like, just because an OnlyFans model is on OnlyFans doesn't mean that they don't have an STD. I don't know if that really... I see where you're going. You know?

Starting point is 00:53:18 I see the order of operations there. Before an OnlyFans model fucks an OnlyFans model, they don't say, I saw you fuck an OnlyFans, you're clean. They go, let me see your test. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, you gotta make justice. Like, rabies just falls out of their kitchen, fucking, you open up the fridge and get rabies. What if they go outside? I don't really think they do. They live on their fucking

Starting point is 00:53:35 sanctuary. Outside! Why are you defending this? That squirrel never leaves the house! I just don't think that, like, you guys are like rabid animals are like falling all from the sky all over the place i'm not but it's possible well like i would say this is randomly possible but if you killed my fucking money-making squirrel my my like super famous money-making squirrel because just like there's a point oh one percent

Starting point is 00:54:02 chance he has rabies i'd be, fuck you guys and fuck the police. The guy's got reason to be upset about it. But he can't say they were acting irrationally. I think it's pretty irrational to run up on someone and then they bite you and you're like, you probably have rabies. You're talking about a person? You keep saying someone. It's a squirrel. It's a pet.

Starting point is 00:54:22 It's a pet. It's a pet. You can't just run up on someone. It's a squirrel! It's a pet! It's a pet! It's a pet! You can't just run up on someone! This peanut, this squirrel, this squirrel has more value than like 50% of the human population. That's fair. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:54:36 So I'm treating it like that. This squirrel has a job. This squirrel provides. This squirrel is probably cleaner than most humans. Maybe. And now he's fucking dead because the goddamn rabies from being dirty though i don't apparently just get rabies from going outside i don't know i'm gonna go outside today i might get rabies but the reason careful the reason you don't maybe we should chop my head off i went outside today the reason you don't domesticate

Starting point is 00:55:02 a squirrel i went outside you can get rabies but the reason you don't domesticate a squirrel... I went outside. You can get rabies. But the reason you don't domesticate a squirrel is because they're prone to rabies. But once they're domesticated, they're not getting rabies. But you... They're domesticated when they're like wild animals out in the street. What do you think domesticated means? Like it lives in the house with them. But it goes outside. It's an animal.

Starting point is 00:55:21 But just like a dog goes outside. It's not like living in a dog has a rabies vaccine. If it goes out. I'm sure they're taking care of their fucking pets that make the money. I think the chances of squirrels having rabies is very low. Okay. So then you shouldn't be able to kill this fucking squirrel. That is way more important.

Starting point is 00:55:39 You're acting like it's just a regular squirrel. Dude, you're acting like it's the president. Because, you know, this squirrel. It is a is a random squirrel man it just has an instagram account it's a random fucking squirrel so much money this is like a famous fucking animal it doesn't matter that it's a squirrel or a dog or whatever it is it's a fucking important i can't tell if we're even having a serious discussion right now this is the president of the squirrels. This is the most important squirrel in the world. You can't kill that squirrel.

Starting point is 00:56:09 He's got an Instagram. This is the most important squirrel. Jorfoss is the most important squirrel on the planet. But if you were... I've heard about the squirrel 10 minutes ago. I know I'm a strong opinion on it. Can you name me one other squirrel in the world? Give me another squirrel that even has a name, Jackie.

Starting point is 00:56:26 No, you're so sorry, squirrel. No, you're the most important squirrel in the world today. Why are you still giving squirrel sticks so hard? If you get bit by a squirrel, and you're like, I have a wife and kids, and I need to not die. Bro, there's no reason to think this guy has rabies. This guy? You keep calling someone and this guy he's more important yes he deserves

Starting point is 00:56:48 you guys need to put some respect on peanut's name I will say like I don't think I'm being very respectful of peanut but like yeah you're not you guys have no respect for peanut or their own or his family I was about to say owner I'm not even gonna say owner I'm gonna say family mother and father

Starting point is 00:57:04 the more you cling to peanut the more I'm going to say family, mother and father. The more you cling to peanut, the more I want to, like, I don't know. I hope you guys get shot by cops for fear of rabies because you've been outside before. Fucking assholes. I hope you're all dead. This is one of the wildest episodes. I can't tell how serious you are. I think you're pretty serious. Like is one of the wildest sentences. I can't tell how serious you are. I think you're pretty serious. Like, what the fuck happened to Peanut?

Starting point is 00:57:29 I'm a little... I'm 50-50. I don't know. Yeah, if it was like, I wish the squirrel didn't die, I get why it did. I just think there's... But if he goes... There's more recourse. And he hangs up, too.

Starting point is 00:57:43 Before you kill a very famous squirrel. There's more recourse before you kill a very famous squirrel. There's more recourse if you keep talking about how famous you are. This guy had so many Instagram accounts. If I had a pet that was making me money like that and I was treating it right and then you fuck with me

Starting point is 00:57:58 and then you say it has rabies. Was Peanut bringing it in? I've never heard of it before. They were like... They were trying to... they were like trying to not associate it with the OnlyFans as much. There was one quote that was like, listen, did Squirrel, did Peanut like drive a lot of subscribers to our OnlyFans? Yes, he did. Like, is that part of, like, is that why, you know, we loved him?

Starting point is 00:58:21 No, it's not. It was very like, yeah, yeah, yeah. He makes us money because we fuck on the side. But I mean, I'm. Is it illegal to own a squirrel? Like, could he? I'm sure that's probably what it was. I'm sure people were like, you know, we don't like that.

Starting point is 00:58:35 I'm almost. I mean, I don't agree with that. Wasn't there something in there about his wife's immigration? That's what I was like. I don't know. There's something going on here about these people. Yeah. Illegal immigrants. Oh, yeah. This is a whole like this is the whole, you like, I don't know. There's something going on here about these people. Yeah, illegal immigrants. Oh, yeah.

Starting point is 00:58:45 This is the whole dogs and cats thing. So you guys are just animal killing Trump supporters at this point. Who are pro-police, pro-Trump, and murdering animals. That's what I said. Have you seen the videos of the squirrel? He's like, he's a genius.

Starting point is 00:59:03 This is Kevin. Maybe I'm the Trump supporter now. This is the smartest squirrel. What are we talking about? The craziest thing. I don't want to be in a foxhole or a squirrel hole with you guys. That's for sure. Again, I'll take the break.

Starting point is 00:59:24 I think that you would change your real fast if a squirrel bit you yeah well if um if i ever get put down for rabies for potential rabies um i want it i want i've decided even though i'm christian we're gonna sit shiva we're gonna sit shiva the way that the cayen family did it because I think they had their like religious Shiva at the house. But the Shiva that I went to was a full-blown Irish wake because I actually – as I was driving up to the spot was when I – I don't know why it took me so long to like think about what I was literally going to do. I just was so like, I love the story so much. This is very tragic, but what came out of it was like very funny and very like wholesome. So I was like, I got to do this. Of course I'm going to do it and like see it through. But then I was like, as I was driving in, I was like, well, what do I

Starting point is 01:00:19 literally do right now? Like, what do I say i go you know whatever so i'm driving up it's this beautiful uh country club and um and so i get in there and there's like a woman like a receptionist desk comments and i ask where the where the cayman family shiva is and she's like it's right upstairs and it was rocking like i could you know see even basically here it was like oh man this is like a fucking scene so So I was like, is there a bathroom? And she said, right before you get in the room, there's a bathroom. So I go to the bathroom, and I'm in the stall, and there's two guys outside. One guy's at the urinal.

Starting point is 01:00:54 One guy's at the sink. And I hear them say something to the effect of that podcast segment was crazy. I heard the guy is actually coming. And the other guy was like, no way. He's actually coming like here tonight. And so I like kick out the door and I'm like, hey, I'm here. Because I was like – I kept thinking now that – I don't know what's worse. It being like a small family thing where I can walk in and be like, oh, there are the kids that I know.

Starting point is 01:01:21 Or now I got to like walk around this whole fucking party until I find them. Like, is it you? Is it you? So this guy, I remember I met so many people. I don't know if it was an uncle or a family friend or whatever. He like grabs me like by the back of the neck, kind of like, he goes, do you mind if I walk in with you? And I was like, absolutely.

Starting point is 01:01:39 Yeah, let's do it. We walk into this room and he goes, like puts his hands up and he's like, attention, everybody. Excuse me. Like, quiet down. Quiet down. Like, he's here. Look, he's here. And the reception I got, not even at like our biggest live show, not even at Comedy Central, the Super Bowls, whatever I've ever done in my career, double it.

Starting point is 01:02:09 It was like I was an A-list superstar. The amount of phones that just popped up in the crowd. I can't wait to get that footage because I think I was like, oh, my God. I didn't know what to expect expect but I did not expect this. And then it was just a like parade of this family being like – I mean I thought – I was like I think this is a nice thing that I'm doing and it sounds like he was a real fan and like maybe it's providing a little bit of comedic relief during a tough time. They were like, you do not understand

Starting point is 01:02:45 like what you've done for this family like okay i'll take it but i'm just like you know just showing up to your party basically within like five minutes i had a bud light in my hand we did vodka shots they're drinking martinis everybody's everybody's just like you know telling stories about this dude i think owen had friends there really because someone was like someone told i was telling owen about it thursday and he was like oh someone told me they were doing shot vodka shot kevin the other night and i was like wait at the live show and i was like no he was doing them the next night too or two nights later whatever it was yeah i mean there was there was definitely like a group of

Starting point is 01:03:21 young guys at one point who who um like eventually i kind of like settled in with for a few minutes that were like, you know, they know. They're asking about like what's going on with the Tate thing. And like they know all of the Barstool stories and whatever. But the amount of like old Jewish family members that were coming up to me being like, I'm sorry. Like, I don't know what you're doing. But like, I don't know who you are or what you do. But you're doing such a mitzvah for us. I got you're a mensch and you're doing a mitzvah a thousand times.

Starting point is 01:03:50 It felt so good. I'm doing, at one point I said to someone, I was like, yeah, they keep telling me I, I did a mitzvah. And he's like, no, you're doing a mitzvah. Little do they know we've constructed a golem here. Does it make your dick rash feel like you're doing something? Staff infection, by the way. My life was on the line. Put me down.

Starting point is 01:04:12 Get the authorities involved. Does it make me feel what about it? Just like you're doing, like, you're helping a family heal because of it. I would kind of be like, did you have to give me the dick rash? Like, if God or whoever. Part of me thinks that there was a little bit like fate for me to be intertwined with this family for some reason we could have done it with like yeah yeah i like twisted my knee playing with my

Starting point is 01:04:33 kids or something i need like an mri you wouldn't go to the hospital yeah exactly you're only going for your dick that is exactly i'm only going for my that's a great point that's a great point because i know what we have to do there's only one way i can get him there it's like dr strange there's like 14 million different injuries i could have there's only one that's gonna get him to the hospital on that moment on that night because the the when i did go to the city md the doctor was like you need to go to the er and i was like fuck if you're saying that and it's about this i gotta go uh gotta go. And then it just made it all the more funny because there was so many people that were, like,

Starting point is 01:05:08 hugging me and shaking my hands, but also being like, are we good here? Like, how's your dick and balls? I mean, like, old family members, it was like the grandma and mothers and, you know, women in the family coming up to me and like, and how's your rash? I was like, oh my God.

Starting point is 01:05:24 The, looking back on it, coming up to me and like and how's your rash i was like oh my god i the the the uh looking back on it i think you said in the group chat like i never would have offered that information up looking back on it i i really just let that one fly oh you gotta let that fly it's funny yeah yeah but also you know that's what i mean that's think. I think 99.9% of the population would be like, I'm not going to talk about the weird skin disease on my dick. Yeah, I mean. Also, once I knew it wasn't an STD, I was a little more like, now I'm going to talk about it.

Starting point is 01:05:52 It's still gross, but I'm not like, hey, I've got herpes on my dick. So once I knew it was that, but yeah, yeah, there was, you know. Put it this way. If I did not run into this family and have this story, I don't think I would have come into this family and have this story i don't think i would have come into the podcast it's just been like yeah got a weird thing on my dick but it made it that much more funny they were going through this like horrible tragic thing while we while i'm just like worried about my junk um and because you talked about it

Starting point is 01:06:17 then it then they invite you to the right right right yeah that that's that's kind of why so this dude was like you know the ultimate uh uh he was buried, I think, in a Patriots and Red Sox gear of some sort. Loved Barstool. Oh, man. I hope he got to watch the comeback. I don't think he did. No, I don't think he did. He probably missed it.

Starting point is 01:06:41 But he lived it. Yeah. He probably missed it. But he lived it. He lived it. So, yeah, I mean, it was that family. Like, the reaction I got was like, you would have thought I saved him or something. You would have thought he's still alive. It's because of me. I wanted to be like, you know, we still are here for Steve, who's gone. But whatever. I guess any time you can make it a little bit easier for for the people going

Starting point is 01:07:05 through that but i mean just like the best family like uh the the his wife or no his sister came over to me and we were talking and then her other brother came over and she was like where the fuck have you been i've been people have been asking for you were you late where are you i thought i had a second dead brother i was like I love you guys Are you fucking dead too? What's going on here? Every single interaction I had was like something like that Like busting my balls

Starting point is 01:07:33 Or making light of like you know A horrible I mean super He was like 52 or 53 I think So like super out of nowhere tragedy But they are The best they're gonna start a foundation in his name for um I think like youth sports or something like that he was

Starting point is 01:07:52 like a coach and all that so so there's I feel like I'll you know be a part of that or be kind of involved in there uh that's awesome yeah yeah it was cool I was like there's just I've always kind of wanted to do like something like that like with a charity or with the foundation and we do the fundraisers and there was the the barstool fund during covid but like you can't it's hard to just like pick one yeah i mean you either have to you gotta fall into it yeah or like you know your family member has a disease or you have the disease or you know something happens and then you have a reason to be a part of it and now i kind of just have this you know a more you know uh it's a kind of like cheat

Starting point is 01:08:29 code of a way to get into it and go through anything i think i think that's how like you can be charitable your whole life or whatever but then like when something actually inspires you that you like really get involved with that charity right and it's like you know youth sports and it's a little more lighthearted it's not like we're like saving you know, youth sports, it's a little more lighthearted. It's not like we're, like, saving, you know, pediatric cancer or whatever. But I think it's also a fun thing that can, like, live on. But, man, I almost wish – I mean, I just rolled in solo. Like, I had nobody with me because I just didn't even imagine it being the scene it was going to be. But I feel like if we had that moment for – like moment if you were behind me with the camera

Starting point is 01:09:05 it was wild it was great but just shots all around everybody hugging me but I it was just funny thinking people were saying to me do you know what shiva is? you can't sit in certain spots

Starting point is 01:09:21 you have to really be follow these rules and everything you can't sit in certain spots. You have to really be – it's like follow these rules and everything. You can't sit in certain spots? Yeah, like if you – Isn't it like aren't the chairs really low? They're hard. They're hard and low. It's like you can't be comfortable.

Starting point is 01:09:32 Yeah. You can't – so all of a sudden people are – as I'm going in, people are saying that to me. Like make sure you don't like break their rules or whatever. Is that why people say shiver? Yeah, I think so. You sit in like an uncomfortable spot where it's like you have to just like think about the person. It's like totally silent. At least I think that's what I understand. And I think they did all that shit at an uncomfortable spot where it's like you have to just like think about the person. It's like totally silent. At least I think that's what I understand.

Starting point is 01:09:47 And I think they did all that shit at home and then this was like the party. But when I walked in there, I was like, oh, no, no, no, no. This is what my people do. This is a full-blown Irish way. Maybe I'm now learning everybody has their own version of that. We just call it something different. But I was like, you know, in my family, it's the same funeral home every time. It's the same cemetery every time.

Starting point is 01:10:08 It's like, oh, run it back. Yeah, yeah. The same bar next to the funeral home every single time. So I don't know if that's how they do it there. But it was like, I mean, the spread they had. It was like the best party I've ever been to. Boy, I hope, you know, it doesn't take just people dying for the party to be this good. But, um, so it was very,

Starting point is 01:10:27 very fun. Like, uh, when they, they invited me, I don't think they expected me to go at all. And I was like, I am,

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Starting point is 01:12:16 Literally nobody. Absolutely not. We were just talking about the amount of things that needed to all align for this to unfold. Thank God for whatever girl gave you that rash. It's not from that. Not from that. I like the face Robin just made. Robin just made like,

Starting point is 01:12:38 alright. Are we good over there? Sounds typical. Yeah, I swear. I swear. It's a stab. I actually swear. All right.

Starting point is 01:12:48 So we have the Cayman family here. I was just describing everything from my point of view, but I wanted to get you guys on to just kind of hear your side of things. And obviously this came from something so tragic, but I think in those moments, like, everybody kind of, you got to just do whatever can help you get through these things. And I think something like this maybe can, you know, make it a little bit easier or a distraction or something, you know, wholesome to come out of something so sad. So even, you know, even in that moment when I first saw you guys, as soon as you guys walked in, I saw everybody's eyes were teary.

Starting point is 01:13:28 I was like, oh, boy, this is something bad. But then right away, your family was able to kind of joke with me and smile a little bit. Is that something you guys – have you guys always kind of been like that? Did you raise them in that way or is that – That's 100% my husband. Sorry. So, yeah, Rob and Jenna Lilly and Michael Kamen. That 100% comes straight from my husband. This is Robin. Sorry. So, yeah, Robin, Jenna, Lily, and Michael came. That 100% comes straight from my husband. Was it him?

Starting point is 01:13:48 Yeah. He was just the most, you know, hilarious, self-defracating, sarcastic, witty, brilliant person. And, you know, he lost his parents at a younger age when he was in his teens and twenties. So as a grieving mechanism, I think for his family, it kind of came together as this is how they deal with serious topics sometimes is to, to make more of a joke of it. And I think we're all just trying our best as hard as we're grieving to carry on his legacy. Yeah, I know.

Starting point is 01:14:24 I know. Everybody kept saying to me like he would love this he so that he would have loved that if if anything this would be his dream come true and if god knows that he's watching down on us like this is his favorite thing in the world really truly i know besides his family uh he grew up 53 years old, Boston Jew, so followed Portnoy forever. I know, so funny. When I started,

Starting point is 01:14:51 it was like I was the Irish guy in New York and he was the Boston guy, Jewish guy. Yeah, exactly. So he grew up, or not grew up, but he would read the paper sometimes. He would always, first thing in the morning,

Starting point is 01:15:00 he would check his work. He was a cotton trader and he would go check Barstool and the New York Post, and that was his daily routine every single day. Crazy. So he was constantly on that. And that's so – if he's reading the paper, that's 20 years ago at this point. Because sometimes people would be like, oh, like –

Starting point is 01:15:18 we've reached a point where people would be like, oh, I'm a fan of Barstool. It's like they just know the Instagram account. When you – the stories the family was telling me, it was like they were talking about Joey Thornton. They were talking about deep, deep cuts. I was like, oh, wow, these really were, and he really was like a real Barstool fan. There was at least once a week that in the family group text,

Starting point is 01:15:37 we were all sent to Barstool. It'd always be like an article of someone doing something dumb. He'd be like, look how funny this is. This better fucking not be you he just was he's very chronically offline he didn't believe in any social media he hated Instagram hated Facebook he didn't even have a LinkedIn

Starting point is 01:15:53 so the only way he got his information was from Barstool for better or worse for better or worse but he was like so fascinated by all these... You always make jokes like the TikTok trends are ahead of the Instagram reels.

Starting point is 01:16:09 He was way after that. He just discovered Hak Tua Girl. He was really fascinated by her. Oh, yeah. One less viral story. But yeah, so his information came from Barstool for better or for worse. That is crazy.

Starting point is 01:16:28 I was just saying I have never experienced anything in my career on the level of the reception and love that I got from your family. Even our shows where people are paying to come see us and excited to see us where the reaction I got from your guys was it was like i i didn't know what to expect i don't know if you guys had any expectations of or if you thought i was going to come i felt so bad when you walked into the shiver for the first time you walk in and then it's some random guy's funeral that you haven't even met some whatever and you walk in the door not knowing what to expect and then there's just a million cameras pointing at you like it was crazy i've never felt

Starting point is 01:17:08 more you know it was like a celebrity guest picker on college game day walking into a shiva i was like we have scotty shepard come to texas it was like here's kfc here not all shivas are like that i will say okay that's what i didn't know like a morning yeah we were obviously morning but like the fact that we were second you walked in we're like let's take shots yeah that's what I didn't know. It was supposed to be like a morning. I mean, we were obviously morning, but like the fact that we were – the second you walked in, we were like, let's take shots. Yeah. That is our family. That's what my people do.

Starting point is 01:17:30 That's how we do things. So I was just saying, as I was driving in, it didn't even dawn on me until I was driving in that I was like, I should have maybe had a little bit of a game plan of like what to do, what to say, how to find you guys, all that. And I'm not sure was it an uncle or just a family friend who brought me in he we happen to be in the band i think it was a family friend he was just like do you mind if i walk in with you and i was like yes because i need

Starting point is 01:17:53 somebody to yeah but as soon as i saw what was going on i was like oh okay i can do this like i people were like you know there's certain rules you don't want to say this you don't want to do that and i was like i don't think it's that, but like, what if it is? And it was definitely not. Yeah. So if you arrived 10 minutes earlier, you would have been seeing that we had that five minute clip of the podcast on the Jumbotron at the Shiva. Thank God I didn't cover that. That would have been crazy.

Starting point is 01:18:17 And we, our family and the majority of my dad's close friends, we think it's the funniest thing in the entire world that we were mentioned and that this whole thing just happened. And so we played the video and we're dying laughing. Excuse my my. But we're dying laughing. And you could also see like we have the fucked up, dark, dark sense of humor that most people get a little uncomfortable by. So like we're all watching the video hysterically laughing and there's a few like stragglers in the room that just came to pay respects that were like are we supposed to laugh are we made the joke where it's like he

Starting point is 01:18:55 said he was a diehard barstool fan and they said that in the podcast and people were like oh it's easy to die hard for him you see the room's like, whoa. And then we're just cracking up. Yeah, it was pretty easy. It is weird when you have, like, that is how you handle things. And then you have to be next to people who don't handle it. I'm very much the same way as you guys. And then I feel like I always, I feel like I'm on the other, the shoe's on the other foot now.

Starting point is 01:19:21 Where I'm like, are we? Are we joking? No. Somebody had said, they were like, we just played the podcast clip. And he went, some people did not like that. My grandma's sitting there in the back. I was like, oh, okay. I know.

Starting point is 01:19:44 And well, we, you know, the thing is, the only way I would have ever gone to the emergency room is having a weird, embarrassing situation like that. Everything else, I would have just been like, if I hurt my elbow or my knee or whatever, I'd be like, I'm not going to the emergency room is having a weird embarrassing situation like that everything else i would have just been like if i hurt my elbow or my knee or whatever i'd be like i'm not going to the emergency room i'm just gonna like wait it out but i was like i don't know what's going on and so like this ridiculous somewhat gross and embarrassing absurd thing is like the only reason why i went and um jackie was just saying you know, God couldn't have hit you with any other sort of like affliction. It had to be that, but that's, that's in a, you know, it's obviously a very dramatic way to describe it, but I think that's the only way I would have ever, you know, ended up crossing paths with you guys.

Starting point is 01:20:17 And now I know there's the foundation and even just knowing that in some way barstool, I hope, even if it's just a smidge, it's helping it a little easier. It's a cool thing that there's one in a bazillion shot, and if it made it even a little bit easier for you guys, then we're happy that it happened. Yeah, no, this whole thing has just been absolutely absurd. Obviously, since he passed, it's kind of just a week of craziness that's happened, and I think this kind of is

Starting point is 01:20:45 the highlight, the good thing, the most amazing thing that can come by this. Like I said, he would send us stuff and be like, you should never be you.

Starting point is 01:20:52 I hope you never go on Barstool. Like, okay, who's going to tell me to not go on Barstool now? I'm going to do this. We'll make sure. I will never put you guys on Barstool.

Starting point is 01:21:04 I'll carry I'll carry that torch for him easy to say a week after so we were joking also what you didn't know obviously we were just some random people

Starting point is 01:21:14 coming in we're also the biggest Boston sports fans and I was like I almost kind of was on Barstool always I'm the same age

Starting point is 01:21:21 as Patrick McGillicuddy so I'm February 1st, 2002. The Patriots won the Super Bowl February 3rd, 2002. So you were saying that stuff, and I was like, oh, KFC doesn't know, but he fucking hates me. I'm his worst enemy. I'll say this.

Starting point is 01:21:36 The only thing that made it, like, I was just, I think I said this to you. I'm so happy he wasn't a Yankees fan. Because if I had to roll in during the World Series and hear all this Yankees stuff, I was going to be like, ah. But knowing that Red Sox family made it great. The goddamn Jets videos, me and him would sit there and play it and just hysterically laugh.

Starting point is 01:21:55 Like, look at this Milan. This is awesome. Yeah, they said he hated the Jets. I was like, what's even to hate? Just laugh. You don't have to hate us. We're obviously very, very big Patriots fans,

Starting point is 01:22:07 but we're also, I think, maybe even bigger Jets haters. That's how we were raised. I get that as Mets and Yankees. My boyfriend is a Jets fan, and he's like, I just don't get it. For the last 20 years, we've sucked. Why are we consuming your mind? And we were like, it's just, it's pure entertainment

Starting point is 01:22:24 for us to watch, to watch the Jets. The same reason Will Ferrell entertains my mind. It's funny. When it becomes easy for us, you know, it's more fun to also hate too. You gotta have something else.

Starting point is 01:22:33 So we were watching the game on, he passed on Friday and the Jets-Pats game was on Sunday. And it was just like, I'm not a super spiritual person, but for the Jets to lose in such terrible fashion to the Patriots, like my dad was orchestrating something up there. One of your relatives or friends said to me, like, if you didn't put $100,000 on the Moneyline Patriots,

Starting point is 01:22:57 you are an idiot. And I was looking back like, of course, of course that was going to be part of the story as well. He stopped at the Titans, but we got the Jeff Ellies. He stopped at the Titans. All right, I've got other stuff to do now. Where did you meet him? I met him in Boston, actually, through mutual friends.

Starting point is 01:23:20 And right when I had met him, he just moved to New York to start trading. And I was still in Boston as a teacher. So we commuted long distance for over a year. And then obviously when things got serious, I moved to New York to be with him. And that's where we started our life. We got married in Boston. How old were you when you met? I was 25.

Starting point is 01:23:45 Are you from Randolph as well? I am not NOT I grew up in Wellesley oh okay and some people make fun of us for how we had different upbringings always seemed to work why is it was one is one like a fancier town than the other. Randolph is where Gaz is from. Wells is nice. God, God, say no more. Understand, understand. Those are kind of the best ones, though, I feel like, right? If those can work, they are like, you know, I feel like some of the strongest and best relationships. And, I mean, we just had the best time,

Starting point is 01:24:20 the best married for 27 years, together for 30, the best years of my life. And he, you know, he made a career out of something that he never thought he would do as well as he did. Yeah, I was going to say, it seems like he killed it. He killed it. He was very successful. Very, and all self-made. Yeah. And, you know, gave me three beautiful kids that we're going to keep raising in his tradition and spirit.

Starting point is 01:24:45 So. It's a beautiful thing. It's a good thing. I've seen a lot of like the Instagram pictures and videos of him, like big mug of beer in his hands.

Starting point is 01:24:53 He was the life of the party. Yeah. He sat me down and he told me what a spread in the money line when I was five. He was like, you're going to have to do this.

Starting point is 01:25:01 You're going to have to do this. Well, that's, I mean, you know, he was a trader, right? So it's like, that's just like legalized form of gambling. You have to do this. You're going to have to do this. Well, I mean, he was a trader, right?

Starting point is 01:25:07 So that's just like legalized form of gambling. You have to do the Yankees. Yeah, so it was literally that. So I was seven years old, whatever it was, when the Celtics were playing the Lakers in the NBA finals. And I was like, all right, Dad, it's time for me to make my first bet. So he sits me down. He walks me through everything. It was amazing.

Starting point is 01:25:23 Then he connects me with one of his buddy's kids, and we make the bet celtics be the lakers whatever it was the celtics lose so the bet was the loser had to wear or i lost so i'd wear a pink yankees jersey to school that day so seven year old me that's tough show up to our friend's house they give me the pink yankees jersey and i lose it like the worst thing in my mind hysterically crying throwing a huge temper tantrum will fit other neighbors come out of their house they're like is everything okay like i think there's child abuse going on so the other dad technically the other dad felt awful he looks at my dad he's like listen i feel so bad maybe the kids were too young like we shouldn't have done this like he doesn't have to wear it he's fine he looks at him goes he's wearing that fucking jersey he ships me off on the bus with me hysterically crying and everyone making fun of me

Starting point is 01:26:10 for the worst day of my life like what's going on listen you're probably the man you are today because of that you learned you gotta pay your bets you gotta yeah yeah hot thick skin yeah but so another that he was self-made and one of his goals obviously was to see a Patriots Super Bowl and then also to bring his whole family to the Patriots Super Bowl. So we went to the Falcons Patriots Super Bowl in Houston. Super Bowl 51. Wow. And obviously, I mean, it's 20 to three. I have this memory like engraved and I'm in seventh grade.

Starting point is 01:26:43 I, to be honest honest I knew nothing about football but I just knew that I had to be a die-hard Patriots man that's the rule so we're like losing whatever and I'm like dad can I ask you a question what's the difference between a kick for one point and a kick for three points and he looks at me and he's like I'm gonna kick you out of this I've never seen him so angry but a fair question yes so excited to be able to like i've done it like i can do it i can bring my whole family bring your whole family to the super bowl he was like that was that was his moment like yeah he's that is an achievement it wasn't a material guy he didn't like to spend much money but it was kind of like

Starting point is 01:27:18 sports and football is so much to me if i can have this moment and share with my family this is amazing and then jenna made that comment he was like that was the dumbest fucking decision that's super we have hank to thank for for that win yeah that was one of our producers where do you watch it from the bathroom hey no that one was from the concourse hank i don't know if you guys know he's a producer on part of my take or he's kind of a host of part of my take now um but he would always he it started with the Seahawks Super Bowl for the first time he did it, where that one he watched from the bathroom. And then we were at that game, at the Pats-Falcons one,

Starting point is 01:27:54 and he would go for the fourth quarter. If they were losing, he would leave for the fourth quarter. And he looked at me like – with almost like the most passion I've ever seen from Hank. He's like, I can't be here anymore. I got to go. And he left, and he just stood on the concourse at houston it was an rnc whatever it's called nrg i knew it was letters and the um and he left and he came running back up after the game and like we saw i saw him and it's the happiest i've ever seen him he's like i did it i don't know how

Starting point is 01:28:22 much it was you but i love the video of the Rams. One of Port and we're getting dragged out. Yeah. You can't take me out of here. That is the, the, the Rams one. I was at that Superbowl with my dad and there is a difference in going to a game like that. Like I, you know, you've been to big games and all that stuff.

Starting point is 01:28:41 Like going to that game as a family or with your father is, is it is different. Like, you know, I've been to big games and all that stuff. Like, going to that game as a family or with your father is different. Like, you know, I've been to hundreds, thousands probably games with my dad. But when you're at the Super Bowl, you're like, wow, we are here. Yeah. Well, there's so much to it. It's like, it's obviously the Super Bowl. And there's a certain amount of, like, you know, there are families that their team never even gets to go to the Super Bowl. And then being able, you're successful enough that you can bring your whole family.

Starting point is 01:29:04 It's kind of like, you know, not to be dramatic because it is just being a sports fan but it's like the culmination of him. It's like I was a sports fan. I worked hard. I did well enough that I can bring five, six people, whatever it was, to the Super Bowl is – I'm sure that for him was the pinnacle. Well, I hope that we kind of stick together forever now. The foundation is going to be there. Once that staph infection clears up.

Starting point is 01:29:37 Keep your distance. You said you hugged my girlfriend. I was like, yeah, you're not coming now. You're not going anywhere near her. That was so funny, too. Just the amount of people who are like grateful but then being like kevin walking in like a cowboy who just crossed the prairie i also think the what you said the nature of your being in the hospital is what makes the story even greater like yeah when i sent you that dm like thank you for like the hug

Starting point is 01:30:05 thank you for whatever i hope your dick and balls are feeling better by the way but like that's what i knew i was like all right we're gonna get along yeah but oh my god my like my dad is historically laughing right now and we know that for sure and just being here and talking about him and, you know, this legacy we'll live on through the foundation, through this podcast, through us. And, yeah, he just, he loved sports. He loved coaching. He loved being a father. He loved being a husband. Like, everyone probably says this about their dad,

Starting point is 01:30:38 but there was no one like my dad. Like, truly, truly, truly. And I would trade this amazing experience just for one more hug for him from him more than anything but um he's laughing and he's proud and he loves you too and yes he really he's sitting here with us somewhere right now you should definitely trade this by the way for sure trade this. Yes. Well, I didn't know. I'm happy. In the moment, I was like, you were just so funny about it.

Starting point is 01:31:11 I was delusional. I was delusional. I think your boyfriend said something like, what the fuck was that? I was so taken aback, and I didn't know what to do. And I was just like, I'm just going to go hug her because I don't know what else. And I was like like he's the nicest person ever he's so nice like it was so nice and i was just like i mean it was half an hour ago that i found out that my dad was dead and then i was in the hospital and you were there i was like what the fucking fuck like how is he here right now and my dad just died and what's going on and

Starting point is 01:31:42 it was just hilarious you were so nice to come come to the Shiva to have us on the podcast. We really didn't think you were showing up that way. No. We were just sitting there. I was like, I'll just DM him the info. He might show up. I'm happy you did because I was never going to ask to or whatever. But once the invitation was extended.

Starting point is 01:32:01 They played the clip. Everyone's sitting there and it's like, oh, Jenna said he invited him. Nothing happens. And then we're all sitting on our phones. You've been tagged in a post by KFC Barstool. We're like, what the hell? And then we just open it up. It's like, I'm on my way to shit.

Starting point is 01:32:14 I've never done this before. I debated that, too. Because I was like, if I'm going to do it, I want to surprise them. But then I was also like, I don't know. That's not a time you really want to be surprised. Or you should know. So I gave a little bit of a heads up. So when I saw your first reel that you posted, I was, we had two shivas.

Starting point is 01:32:32 We had one at our house and then the one you came to. So the one at our house was on Tuesday after the funeral and it was a very overwhelming day. So I was sitting in my bathroom, I think with one or two other friends and all of a sudden I locked my door and there's knocking on my door. They're banging, they're banging. They go, it's an emergency.

Starting point is 01:32:47 It's emergency. I go, what did my dad die? Like he's already dead. Like, and they're like, KFC just posted a reel about you. And I was like,

Starting point is 01:32:55 Oh my God, I'm famous. I made it. I'm done. I'm done. Yeah. So, but it was just unreal.

Starting point is 01:33:03 And then after the funeral in Chiva on Tuesday, we went to my dad's favorite dive bar in Port Chester, Sam's. And he would have loved that. We were with his college friends. We're exchanging stories. We're drinking beers. And that's how we spent my dad's funeral, was at a bar. And that's how we do it.

Starting point is 01:33:22 And that's how he does it. That's how he wanted it, right? I mean, that's. Always finish your beer Never ever ever Leave a drink unfinished He would I've seen him eat

Starting point is 01:33:29 Someone else's Plate of chicken wings Because he didn't No waste There was a little bit Of meat on the bone And he would take Someone else's wings

Starting point is 01:33:35 And shove them in Disgusting I don't know if that was Him being cheap Or just like Disgusting It was a mix of both He would make sure

Starting point is 01:33:44 To take all of our food and he would lick our own chicken wings. He'd do the chicken wing? He'd bite the bone? It's one thing to finish the burger. The bone has been... When you go to a steakhouse and you get the T-bone, he's the one that's like...

Starting point is 01:33:59 We have a million pictures of him on the steakhouse. Keanu Luger is at the nicest steakhouse you could be. He's like... That's great though. Again, I'm happy. Pictures of him on the steak. Peter Luger is at the nicest steakhouse you could be. He's like on the, yeah. That's great, though. Well, again, I'm happy. I know sometimes in my experience I've never had anything quite as traumatic as this, but any time I've lost somebody, like you said, in the beginning,

Starting point is 01:34:16 there's so much hoopla and so much going on that, you know, it's still there in a way and there's still, you know, a part of it. And I know, you know, after that dies down is sometimes when it can be the hardest. So if, you know, there's anything we can do to make, you know, give you a laugh or help with the foundation or the podcast, whatever it may be, I feel like, you know, KFC Radio gang is kind of here for you in any possible way going forward. Did you speak about the foundation? No, I only heard that you were going to do one for youth sports,

Starting point is 01:34:52 but if you want to give more details about that, I can. He was like all three of our coaches for every youth soccer. Everything but soccer. Everything but soccer, basketball. I mean, so nothing meant more to him than sports wait who's the best athlete

Starting point is 01:35:07 quick hand no it's so me I played the most sports you're out it's you're out it's between the two of us

Starting point is 01:35:16 I got cut like from every sport young so I got to go play golf which is great because now I'm the best golfer

Starting point is 01:35:22 in the long run they're all jealous I'm like a I'm a nine handicap now good for you you can play basketball in 7th grade I'm the best girlfriend of all my friends. I'm a nine handicap now. Good for you. You can play basketball in seventh grade. I'm going to play this for the next 50 years. Exactly. Now I'm taking all my friends with me. Girls varsity basketball captain. I mean, that was tennis.

Starting point is 01:35:35 Of a school of 120 people in a class. There were two senior girls on the basketball team and they made them both captain by default. So what I actually said in my eulogy is Rybrookok where we're from is a very small town it's not a super athletic town either if you're good at sports like you go off to like a private school like you don't say in blindbrook right so he would come to my room after games and he would like he drilled me about everything he's like your pivot foot wasn't strong enough down like you didn't your follow-through

Starting point is 01:36:04 was i would make the basket but my follow-through wasn't strong enough down. Your follow through was... I would make the basket but my follow through wasn't good enough. Every night he would drill me on what I needed to work on for next game. Whenever I sucked, he always told me I sucked. But then when I was good, he would say, you're good but you're just Rybrook good. You're not actually good.

Starting point is 01:36:20 You're just like small town good. You're not actually good. Gotta keep you in check. Keep you hungry, keep you wanting check. Yeah, it's always gotta be in check. Keep you hungry, keep you wanting more. So speaking of the foundation, we are raising money for the Steve Kamen Foundation, and we have a GoFundMe set up,

Starting point is 01:36:35 which we can give the information for, and we will be donating 100% of the proceeds to disadvantage youth sports to get them all to play and my dad would have loved that he there was nothing he loved more than coaching he loved coaching his kids but he also loved coaching other kids too he like and so many i left when i left the football team he stayed on as the board of the yeah like small town football uh whatever you call it but he was amazing all he wanted to do was coach be involved involved, and just helping people out. So I think that we were debating, do we do heart disease, do we do whatever.

Starting point is 01:37:11 It was like he didn't have a heart disease. He just kind of had a heart attack. I don't know. So he decided this is the way to go, and this is what he would have liked. That's awesome. And I think that resonates with a lot of the Barstool audience as well. So hopefully that can be another thing where we work on together. But I just wanted to give you some love because i mean these these are great kids they are my rock and they're my world and they're gonna keep me going as always and just

Starting point is 01:37:35 as much as we can joke and you know steve was one hell of a guy he truly was the best person out there and a testament to i mean the people that showed up and his friends and his family he was the most loved human being i literally cannot think of one enemy he had right right well i mean but these guys are so impressive and they were uh you know very funny but also very strong. Great things. I think that's the best testament to a couple and a mom and dad is how great their kids are. So if that's any indication, you guys were amazing.

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Starting point is 01:39:51 Obviously, I'm exaggerating. But I wanted to discuss it. I didn't want to take to Twitter with it because I don't know. Go full screen. Quick. I'm closing my eyes. No, you can open them. You can open them.

Starting point is 01:40:03 It's fine. This is Tom Brady's first time playing hockey. First time skating or playing hockey? First time skating, I guess. First time skating,

Starting point is 01:40:12 it says. Max. He's coming for you, Max. That's a black man. I was going to say he looked black. He's a black man. I was like, that's not Tom Brady. That's a black man. I was going to say, he looked black. He's a black man.

Starting point is 01:40:26 I was like, that's not Tom Brady. That's a black dude. It looks like he's gone full Robert Downey Jr. in Tropic Thunder. Yeah, what is going on there? That's what I thought. Maybe Jackie would have some insight as to like... Pause right there. That's a black man.

Starting point is 01:40:38 That is a black man. I didn't know what we were looking for, and the whole time I was going, that's a black dude. I was like, is Tom Brady the guy coming in from the front because it's like that's a black tom brady's just a black guy what is that he's like great he yeah it's like it's like a dark it's got to be like the light reflecting off the ice and stuff but it was it was making me think of chad ochocinco once had a tweet that he deleted where it's like it's him and tom brady dapping each other up and tom and ochocin cinco's comment was two black guys you know like in the like if you know you know kind of deal and i was like i i always thought it was about his penis but it turns out

Starting point is 01:41:15 tom brady's just a black man i mean that if you were to just screenshot that and put it out especially given you know certain stereotypes you would you could be like look at this black guy learning to skate for the first time and it's tom brady he's like it's got to be that's a black guy that's a fucking black guy it's a fucking black man look at that he's even looking like from the side it's whatever he's looking right at us with tom brady's face but he's black he's's so black, dude. It's crazy. And you know, but you're right. It really does look like Robert Downey's black face.

Starting point is 01:41:50 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like Robert Downey, you can tell it's a little bit makeup. You know what I mean? So it looks like Tom Brady just decided to be like, I'm going to put on black face and go play hockey. I mean, like he was on Fox News. Yes, not Fox News. Fox Sports on the broadcast yesterday. Looking white as shit. I didn't watch the game. Yes, not Fox News. Fox Sports on the broadcast yesterday. Looking white as shit.

Starting point is 01:42:06 I didn't watch the game. No, I saw him. I didn't think anything of it. So it's got to be a light situation? Well, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't think Tom Brady actually turned into a black man. Definitely thinking it's some sort of light. There's no hints of orange.

Starting point is 01:42:20 No, yeah, it's not like when you get a spray tan at first and it's got to settle. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Actually, that, he could have not wash it off yeah oh yeah yeah yeah yeah his instagram story the other day was so funny yeah so what i was gonna say what do you think of that what was that oh oh oh with with giselle though not with oh he posted what he posted uh landslide yeah what was the comment what was the phrase. What was the comment? What was the phrase? It was a quote from the lyrics. Here it is.

Starting point is 01:42:54 Can the child within my heart rise above? That's fucking weird. And it's weird that he used the chicks version of landslide. Now, to be clear about one thing, I asked this at the live show, and I forget the answer I got. That happened to be the correctly timed screenshot, right? Those were just showing the lyrics of the song.

Starting point is 01:43:19 No. No, that's a... That's a permanent caption? That's a permanent caption. That's the permanent caption? Yeah. All right. Oh. So, that's a... That's a permanent caption? That's the permanent caption? Yeah. All right. So, but I think that...

Starting point is 01:43:29 No, not great, not great. Is there a chance that he just, like, it was just bad timing? Like, he just wanted to post the story? That's what I said. I was like, Tom Brady's just too busy living his own life. He's just like, yo, I love the Dixie Chicks. I would actually think that except i feel like we know well enough that like about his operation that it's like

Starting point is 01:43:51 pretty well run and pretty like i feel like somebody would have been like don't do that yeah yeah somebody had eyes on that bonner what are you doing get our boy yeah basically i wonder if bonner was like hey dude maybe not and tom was. And Tom was like, no, it goes up. I mean it. I really mean it. Yeah. Giselle just fucking like, let's go. New kid, new boyfriend.

Starting point is 01:44:14 Life. I had two other things real quick. One, I didn't watch the game yesterday because I was at the marathon. My sister ran it. The marathon is so clearly just like it's it's that's my first time really like registering it's so clearly like a test of will because like 20 of the marathon's obese yeah you can't do it you just have to like a significant amount of people running are like yeah not even just big like a fat person but i don't know i feel like i could not do it i

Starting point is 01:44:44 feel like i would die before i did it i think i think when i run like a mile my my chest is like well also everyone gains weight when they train for a marathon because like your body's not what we're talking like i know what you're talking about we're talking like fatso's oh yeah no no like fat people like 20 is a high number i'm exaggerating for that but like a lot of people you're like jesus christ i didn't even know you could like walk across the street no i definitely Like 20% is a high number. I'm exaggerating for that. But like a lot of people are like, Jesus Christ. I didn't even know you could like walk across the street. No, I definitely think it's much more about like endurance and like mental. Yeah, it's just don't stop.

Starting point is 01:45:13 Just keep pushing your body. And I'm not saying it's easy. It's just it's difficult in a completely different sense than I thought it was. Probably almost harder in a way. Yeah. You know what I mean? Because you can also be in great shape and not be able to do it because you don't have the capacity. Yeah. Because who fucking has the will? It's not know if there's a fucking avalanche behind me

Starting point is 01:45:28 maybe i'll keep running but otherwise i'm not i don't i do not have the will to run 26.2 miles i think there's no reason said this but one of my friend's boyfriends like took a class in college there was like marathon like the class was marathon child state school yeah and but like so it's like every class was like you run like one mile then you run two miles and then you run three miles and eventually like they just what paying yeah exactly eventually like they're not run that like the teachers aren't running with you so they just trust that you're actually like running like all these miles but a lot of the kids would like run like three miles and then like go home and just sleep the rest or like run like whatever and so he didn't run he didn't like train at all he would literally just like

Starting point is 01:46:09 go run off campus and then like chill in this whatever go back to sleep and so then when the the final is like you have to run a marathon and he was just like i bet like i have to be able to run this marathon i haven't been training at all but like i don't have a choice or else i'm gonna fail the class like if you don't make run the marathon and then he just did it yeah like it's like if you just have i can't my buddy ran the marathon like when we were probably in our early 20s and he was his we'd love to say it was like i just my training was i stopped smoking for the week before yeah um and then the last thing speaking of black man and tom brady r.i.p quincy jones this is like my favorite quote of all time or is an interview he's doing with vulture

Starting point is 01:46:52 and uh i don't know what how they got to this but i started talking about marlon brando and uh quincy jones goes marlon brando used to go cha-cha dancing with us he could dance his ass off he was the most charming motherfucker you ever met. He'd fuck anything. Anything. He'd fuck a mailbox. James Baldwin, Richard Pryor, Marvin Gaye. And the interviewer goes, he slept with him?

Starting point is 01:47:13 How do you know that? He goes, come on, man. He didn't give a fuck. You like Brazilian music? That's it. That's it. All over the fucking map. Dude, you drop some gossip like marlon brando used to

Starting point is 01:47:27 fuck richard pryor go anyway you like brazilian music that's crazy that's like some charlie murphy uh rick james yeah all over the place speaking of that can you pull up one quick story the uh um michael actually about my quincy jones's daughters Michael... Actually, it's about Quincy Jones' daughters. That's crazy. It was Michael Jackson-Tupac fight. What? This fight? You want to talk about some Charlie Murphy stuff? This? No. That one right there.

Starting point is 01:48:01 You know Mike and Quincy was tight, so that means Michael Jackson grew up. I mean, watch Quincy was tight. So that means Michael Jackson grew up. I mean, Quincy Jones' daughters grew up. Fast forward years later, Tupac is dating one of their daughters. I think it was Khadija. Khadija.

Starting point is 01:48:19 They came out of a party. Tupac comes out of the party, disrespecting Khadija. He's like, shut up. Come on. Shut the up and get in the car Mike stepped to him Yo you can't talk to her like that Mike mind your fucking business Mike was like no that's like my niece You ain't gonna just talk to her like that

Starting point is 01:48:37 Michael Jackson And Tupac start rumbling Michael Jackson beat his ass No way. That's a tough look for Pac. Michael Jackson beat his ass. I mean, that's the same thing as the Prince story.

Starting point is 01:48:53 I saw someone say about that. I saw it through Twitter. And someone had just quote tweeted it and was like, you guys don't think a guy who grew up in Gary,iana with an abusive father and five brothers can fight get the fuck out of here dude that guy was fighting for his life wow it is not talked nearly enough about the fact that like michael jackson's white he turned

Starting point is 01:49:20 i was i was just i knew that like it is insane that the biggest entertainer of all time. Well, I mean, I guess it's just as crazy as the greatest quarterback of all time turning black. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just, it can happen. But, yeah. And also, like, he, like, slept with children. Like, he, like. It's crazy.

Starting point is 01:49:36 There's nobody who's gotten more passes than Michael Jackson. And it's true. Everyone just goes, like, it's the Chappelle skit. Like, thriller, man. You mean Thriller. What do you want us to do? He was the greatest. But yeah, I wonder what would happen now.

Starting point is 01:49:54 It would be like, I guess Taylor's a female, so it's hard. There's not a male. It'd be like Shawn Mendes coming out of straight. I guess it would be somewhat similar if Drake literally had like – if Drake was like literally like had kids in his bed. There's like rumors and shit. But if it was like he invites them over and they like hang out at his house and they sleep together. Everyone was like, oh, that's a little weird. Anyway.

Starting point is 01:50:18 Did you see Drake this week with DeMar DeRozan? Yeah. Dude. He's like – I defend Drake through a lot. A lot. I can't – This is where I got to stop. Eventually I got to stop. This is a lame. A lot. I can't. This is where I got to stop. Eventually I got to throw the line. I actually don't mind him being like the quote of Drake being like,

Starting point is 01:50:29 if they put up a banner for DeMar DeRozan, I'm going to pull it down myself. That was cool. That I'm fine with. That was like on a radio, whatever that was, a call-in, a sideline report, whatever that was. But the like mean mugging on the court side, like staring at him and shit, it's like bro you are we're never like a tough guy that's actually what i usually liked about drake is that he was always

Starting point is 01:50:50 he didn't really pretend to be like he he he like he like dresses and acts like hip-hop but he's not like rapping about selling drugs and shit you know because he wasn't that but this is like it's like dude demar de rosen will beat you the Drake. All the pussy like so quietly under his breath. Did he? I didn't hear that. What did he say? So it's just like the mouthing of it. Oh, when he's on the court?

Starting point is 01:51:11 But he like – you can clearly say he's like – Yeah. Yeah. It's tough, man. He needs to take a vacation. It stems from DeMar DeRozan being in the Kendrick Lamar music video. Right. I mean I do feel like Drake is probably like LeB like lebron demar de rosa all these guys who like were tight with him and then they're just

Starting point is 01:51:28 rocking out to not like us like that does suck and part of me if that was me i'd be like yo fuck you guys like what the fuck man like this guy's calling me a pedophile it's not just like oh hey it's like good for the culture like this went way past the line but i don't know then to like to hang on the way he's doing it with demar de rosen is is just kind of corny he needs to stop he needs to just like go away for a little bit you know what's really interesting though remember we were talking about that 100 100 gigs where i was saying uh you know i thought that was like a shot at at the the digital platforms being like i don't need you yeah um when it's actually much more like the new way that record labels are paying you

Starting point is 01:52:09 is through meta and like based on your online impressions. So when he put that out there and like, he's like, look how much internet activity I can generate. Cause that's the new way you get paid. Not through streams, not through record sales. It's all about like, they're now putting that into your contract. Like, yeah, it's good to way you get paid. Not through streams, not through record sales. It's all about, like they're now putting that into your contract. Like, yeah, it's good to go viral on TikTok.

Starting point is 01:52:29 It's like, no, like if your sound gets used on TikTok X, Y, Z million times, you get more money. So he's like, it's probably more profitable at this point to show your online footprint rather than get like Spotify streams. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So always ahead of the curve. He might be,

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Starting point is 01:55:04 in months and months and months. I'm so far over what this little number on the top of my fucking windshield is telling me. It's crazy. And this car is old. I cannot afford lapses like this. The media has to do a better job. No, he's not right. How often do you guys get your oil changed?

Starting point is 01:55:28 I feel like I've never heard anybody say I got my oil changed today. And yet, per these numbers, you're supposed to do it every two months. I know. That is crazy. I don't. The whole system is fucked because. Is everybody really doing this except me? It's not talked about enough, but it's also when they do talk about it, they treat it like you're filling up your gas tank.

Starting point is 01:55:49 You don't need to do it as frequent as they say. That, I think, is a racket. I don't have any clear memory of getting – I've never been a big driver, but I don't have a clear memory of being like, I've got to get my oil changed. If you're like, I'm running out of gas, you're like, I have to go to the gas station yeah the car will not work when you reach a point like that with the with the oil it's like your car will break and i i drove mine into the ground because the fucking the symbol never came on i had my you know you think to yourself like i need gas usually you know the the the symbol will go on you know you need gas but you know you can't just drive forever whereas like i was prepared to drive that car forever until a light went on.

Starting point is 01:56:26 My college roommate drove one of the guys who needed pussy. Drove like a, I don't know, we'll call it late 90s, early 2000s Jeep Cherokee. Said he never got to the oil change once. This was 2000. So it was probably in early 90s. I do think older cars, they did make it whereas like you're good but he would be like you don't have it's all a scam you have to do that i think i i think you're wrong but the car is running so i don't really know i actually do think they probably

Starting point is 01:56:56 made i bet you can make a car that can run for a longer time and it's like hey if you make it shorter you know the valvolines and the jiffy lubes of the world like it's all fucking you know one industry together because i do think older cars have like now it's like he said it's supposed to be like every couple months and i do not think that is really the case yeah but it's funny my shit just went back on it said oil change you need to change your oil soon and that went for about a week and now it's changed to oil change required and i am a guy who drove a car into the fucking ground by not doing it and i still am like i'll get to it tomorrow and then tomorrow comes i don't have i'm supposed to do it today i'm probably not gonna have enough

Starting point is 01:57:35 time now today i go to practice and like my car is gonna break at some point but it is a little sticker i think i'm like 5 000 miles miles over. Yeah, over my sticker. I do think it's talked about a good amount. You think so? You think there's enough big oil talk? Get your oil changed? Kind of. Before I had problems with it, I never ever thought about it.

Starting point is 01:57:58 I had a car start smoking because I've had issues. Yeah, I mean, I think I had no oil in it for like thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of miles. Really? I mean the guy – I mean ultimately too it's also like – it's kind of just like eating fruits and vegetables. Like you're supposed to do it and it's definitively good for you. Yes. But you'll survive.

Starting point is 01:58:16 Right. The car will run. I mean until – again, until you run it into the ground. But it's like, yes, for your vehicle to like have the most efficient mileage and run the smoothest, you probably should do it every fucking month. Right, right. But let's be realistic here. You should eat an apple a day and keep the doctor away. Yeah, we don't do that.

Starting point is 01:58:29 If you don't, you'll probably be all right. Right. But you won't be great. Right, right. But yeah, it is funny that where it's like you run out of gas, your car is fucking cooked. You run out of oil, your oil is fucked up. It'll be all right. Why is that the fucking case?

Starting point is 01:58:46 All right, last one. what's up guys so i have a question that was brought on by jackie mentioning that she might have jury duty in the next whatever a couple weeks um so jury duty obviously most people think of as you know a huge inconvenience but my jury duty experience was actually fucking awesome. So it was in 2010. I had just graduated college, like literally two weeks before the case. And it was a murder trial for a drug dealer from 1992 cold case. Um, it was five days that I got paid for. I didn't have a job yet because like I said I just graduated college. So I got like 150 bucks a day. The case was super interesting. Turned out that we ended up letting the guy off. It was a guy and a girl. The girl was later convicted, and the guy was already doing 25 to life for a different murder.

Starting point is 01:59:49 So we might have fucked that one up. But anyway, also, that week was the first time I watched Breaking Bad start to finish. So overall, maybe the best week of my life, give or take. So my question is, is there any experiences you guys have had where everybody else kind of views it as negative but you thought it was awesome? That's all. Thanks, Viva. Yeah, I mean, listen, true crime is taken over in such a way that I'm sure there are people who relish jury duty for opportunities like that it is it's got to be funny when you let if you as a jury let people off and then like down the road you find out you're wrong and kind of like geez guys we

Starting point is 02:00:31 fucked that one yeah let's not talk about that one um as far as something that everybody hates that i liked and enjoyed most things yeah i i was thinking about when people are like oh it's getting so dark early and i don't like the winter and it's cold it's like that's my time to shine yeah stay inside i can watch you know turn on a movie at like four o'clock and it's dark and you can enjoy it like that to me is i love that we just did the we just did the clocks right we just did yeah this weekend daylight savings now this is the two two days a year I get up before like 7 a.m. Yeah. Yeah, that would be my – everyone else is outdoors.

Starting point is 02:01:13 Team Indoors for Life is my – I was in a car accident once. That was awesome. When you're a kid, casts and braces and all that shit, you want those things. This is – we were a little older. We were probably in our 20s and we were going to Vermontont we're going up skiing and we like drive like we left after work friday and like it was full-on dude so i forget what mountain we were going to i think jpeak and so we're going deep up north and we're driving on this mountain and like ton like it's

Starting point is 02:01:40 just like like fucking no fence mountain and like for like most of the drive and then at one point we skid out and we start spinning and we bounce off we didn't think the fence was there for some reason at that stretch there was like a guardrail you would have gone right off the mountain we bounce off that end up in the back of the median still spinning and like the second the car stops i was like oh that was fucking sick and my buddy was like like like really really like he couldn't drive the rest of the way i had to drive the rest of the way like he was like really panicking and i was like i don't know dude that was pretty fun and he's like what's wrong with you i don't know like that was it was definitively fun like we survived it you almost getting murdered in the bahamas yeah that's you

Starting point is 02:02:24 you love all those things. It's fun. Again, until you die. If it went another way, it would be not fun. It went the way we survived and had a good story, so it's fun. Near-death experiences are the best experiences. Death experiences, not so much. Near-death, awesome.

Starting point is 02:02:39 Very important distinction, but razor-thin line. Even like jury duty like i like it's even embarrassing that this guy brought it up because like i looking back on it like if you had a camera following me around all weekend like i would not shut up about jury duty when you do go to jury duty you should go all in on it because like because like also it's just like for some reason like i was trying to reflect i was like honestly like why do i keep because i kept being like oh like i have jury duty like acting like i wasn't like if i'm being i was telling you guys like if i'm being honest like i'm stoked about jury duty i don't know why and i was trying to figure out why and i was like it's just such a human experience

Starting point is 02:03:15 that like for some reason it's just like so funny to be like you're like the star i i actually i i am not surprised at all jackie you also get to stand in judgment of other people that's yeah it was awesome like i'm in the i'm in the like they picked only 12 of us and i'm a part of it and i get to like just judge you those are yeah yeah yeah you're that bitch it does like make me because like i was like the second i turned 18 they've like asked i've i've turned down jury duty like sometimes like the fact that they want me so bad does make me kind of like turned it down it's like postpone it you can just do that i don't think i've even been invited this is why i'm kind of like oh you guys have never but there's certain things i'm just like this is so funny it's just like a human experience

Starting point is 02:04:03 that like people complain about and like now i'm to be a part of like complaining about it. Like even – I don't know. Jury duty is like the most universal like huff and puff, roll your eyes. Oh, no. I got jury duty. But the most – the most entertaining like SVU and true crime docs and all that shit is about that right but when like all of a sudden you're a part of it you're like oh no that doesn't mean that doesn't add up yeah also like i'm in four thousand dollars of credit card debt and like i keep i keep saying that and

Starting point is 02:04:36 like loki i think i'm like so stoked to be four thousand dollars in credit card debt because like it's so funny to just be like i'm'm in $4,000 in credit card debt. And that's something that, like. Let's talk, Jackie. Yeah, I shouldn't. That's not, like, a human experience that's fun. No, but, like, sometimes it's like, it's your 20s. But, like, you're only temporarily in debt, right? I actually did say that.

Starting point is 02:04:57 I don't count credit card debt as a debt. Yeah, it's actually, it doesn't affect me at all. Yeah, I'm in a ton of credit card debt right now. Yeah. I'll pay it. We went through this, right? Like, you know about, like, the 25%, right? Kind of. Like, I know in a ton of credit card debt right now. Yeah. I'll pay it. We went through this, right? You know about the 25%, right? Kind of.

Starting point is 02:05:07 I know we've talked about it. It does keep building quick. Yeah. I will say. That is kind of scary. Can I just buy this one at my place? Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:05:15 Yeah. Like when you see like 25% APR, that's like the rate of interest that accrues on your debt. So if it just sits there, it's $4,000 now, but it'll be like $4,250 in a little bit, and then $4,500, and then it'll be $5,000. But I pay my statement balance every month. Yeah. It's like no...

Starting point is 02:05:33 Yeah, that's good. Yeah, you should make your payment every month, and then there's minimum payments you have to make. But the longer that you leave that there, the more money you will pay. Now, sometimes I do think it makes sense where it's like, yes, this is accruing more interest, but right now I need cash for this, that,, the more money you will pay. Now, sometimes I do think it makes sense where it's like, yes, this is accruing more interest, but right now I need cash for this, that, or the other.

Starting point is 02:05:49 But if you are not hurting for money, you probably should just pay it off because by letting it sit there, you will absolutely be paying them more money. I basically whack it every month. I'm in credit card debt for the month until the end of the month, and then I pay it. That's not credit card debt.

Starting point is 02:06:04 No, no, I wouldn't say that either you know it's when it's a bigger number and really starts to accrue and you can't pay it that you're fucked but even then I feel like I've had it up around like 25 30 yeah yeah I mean you know and then the interest is gonna be higher because I'll pay when I get to it yeah well I'm just like i'll get the money at some point like i'm good this is my iou this is what everyone's talking for sure but like but but i i do think there is something to like money is just like this construct right that like as long as you are employed and don't think you're ever gonna like totally crash out on life and like bottom out like you'll get there you know what i mean like it's if you needed to get a house right now your credit would stink that's not no i got great

Starting point is 02:06:49 credit but so as long as i mean as long as your credit is good does it affect my credit if you don't pay your credit card bill yes why because you're not paying your your credit i know but that's narco like why do you guys have to like alert the authorities about it i'll get you the money at some point. Jackie's whole thing to American Express while they're talking to the bank is, I'm good for it. I'm just good for it. I've been good for it for like three years. I'm good for it every time.

Starting point is 02:07:13 A mortgage is just a big fat pile of debt, but you buy stuff with it. If you know how to manage your debt, you actually can use it to your advantage to be more financially successful and property and assets and all that sort of shit. It's when you're just reckless and you don't ever pay it.

Starting point is 02:07:32 It's like if you can loan me money and I can do things with it, and yeah, I got to pay you back a little bit on it, but I'm good for it, you actually can use it to your advantage. It's just the people who are reckless with it that are in trouble. The first time I learned about credit card debt was like six months ago. About ten years after having a credit card. Yeah. I was like, oh, boy, my credit must be a disaster scene. I've had that never.

Starting point is 02:07:55 Perfectly fine. I've never been below like 700 or some shit. Yeah, it was like high 700s, I think. Yeah, I do think it takes a lot to to to be a problem yeah and i also think i i one time i dipped into like the sixes and i i paid i had like 30 grand in debt or whatever and i just i whacked it i was able to pay it all off and it like just went back out yeah but again these are like you know we are in a pretty good spot it's people who are like i opened up a credit card because i have no money and I bought something with it

Starting point is 02:08:25 and then I never pay it off and the collection agencies come and all that shit and then you get another credit card to pay off that, you know, and then you spiral. Those are the people.

Starting point is 02:08:33 I think when you carry around $4,000 worth of debt and you're just like, it'll be okay. Yeah. I mean, I wouldn't do it for the story. I don't think it's the most interesting story

Starting point is 02:08:42 to run up interest on your debt. But if you like telling it, girl, you go ahead and do that. You want to do jury duty in debt, you do that. How much money you got? I think he's not guilty. But yeah. All right, good stuff. Let's get into our interview with Joe List.

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Starting point is 02:11:16 It's funny because Anthony Cumia, of all people, had like the best tweet about it, I thought. What did he say? He was just like, this is such a, I forget how he worded it, whatever. He was like, this is such a, I forget how he worded it, whatever. He was like, this is such a huge fuck-up by the Republican. He's like, the talk should be like a Republican candidate just sold out an arena in a blue city. Instead, it's like, you've just given red meat to people that were going to call it a Nazi.

Starting point is 02:11:35 I was like, is he secretly working for Kamala? Is he a mole who bombed on purpose? Because, I mean, it feels that way more than you know. And I just found out – I think you were the one who told me that they went over his material. Really? Oh, yeah. The only thing they said was that you can't call her a cunt.

Starting point is 02:11:54 Yes. You can't call her that and they had to take that out. Everything else, good to go. That's the craziest part. That's hilarious. I mean, that had to be – that guy has got to get fired, right? Whoever saw the speech? Yeah, whoever was like, yep, like green light.

Starting point is 02:12:07 Right, right. We're going to love this. Yeah, yeah. No, I mean, so like – so Tony does the roast and then kind of is anointed as like the next one. You know, everybody is booking and he's selling out. And then something like that happens. Is there no such thing as bad publicity or is that like – was that a bad move that he'll feel the ramifications of that? I don't know. I think in this – that world, there is no – I don't know.

Starting point is 02:12:34 I mean I feel like somebody said he added 50,000 Instagram followers. You know, you get caught on camera saying something or doing something and it rallies people more. You know, you might lose the people who don't like that, but it rallies five times more the people who do support you for it. Yeah, I can't imagine anyone that was a Tony fan going in was like, I'm out now. But maybe, I don't know. I mean, I'm not sure. I don't know. I think there's a handful of Puerto Ricans who are probably like, fuck off. But if you were a Tony fan already, you don't know. I think there's a handful of Puerto Ricans who are probably like, fuck off. But if you were a Tony fan already, you don't care.

Starting point is 02:13:08 I think ultimately it doesn't – it's fun to talk about for a week. But I would guess ultimately it doesn't really affect the election and it doesn't affect Tony. The only thing is that it's so close to the election because it will last for a week. But the election is in a week, bro. Right. Everyone is early voting. It's also crazy. Like the October surprise is like this guy i know yeah it's like so crazy and then trump is like

Starting point is 02:13:31 being like i don't know and i've never heard of this guy and it's just insane that that like when the assassination attempt happened i was like oh boy that's it like the images and the and the you know the the fervor coming out of this, like they've got it wrapped up. But it was long enough that that kind of faded out. Right. But this thing happened at the fucking 11th hour, man. And I mean, I would imagine like we said, people who are like Tony and certain states that are already set in their ways. But if you're a swing state and you're a puerto rican it might

Starting point is 02:14:05 be on your mind yeah you know what was crazy is yesterday we had to go to philly for a little bit and we were just driving on the highway and it was insane every billboard like i was we were driving on the highway and i was like goddamn where the fuck are we because every billboard was either harris trump harris trump harris trump i usually don't think that stuff like same thing with like bud light and cores light at like the super bowl and stuff but i guess it does you do have to like keep up and keep in front of people's faces but i can't imagine uh you know anybody's really being swayed that much at this point unless maybe you're puerto rican i don't know i mean it's also funny like billboards in general are hilarious to be like driving and be like, all right, I'm voting Kamala.

Starting point is 02:14:46 No, no, I'm voting Trump. Look at that. That's a good photo. No, there's such good photos. I was down in North Carolina over the summer and there was this like a local law guy, you know, like an ambulance chaser type lawyer down there who had, it was something like 15 billboards in a row. And they were all pretty close.

Starting point is 02:15:07 But it worked because I was like, I guess it didn't work because I can't remember his name but i do remember you drove it every day yeah right exactly yeah and if you had an injury you'd be like yeah i mean you know salino and barnes around here you know like if i ever they're mesothelioma or whatever i'll call those guys up well that's the billboards i think work for something that um you're not that familiar, but you might need at some point. Yeah. A carpet cleaner, and then you spill on your rug, and you're like, oh, shit. Yeah. I think that was like in Boston, like the big sponsor for the Red Sox for years was 1-800-54-GIANT if you break your windshield.

Starting point is 02:15:36 Call Giant Glass, baby. So, yeah. And then I'm like, so now it's in my head. That's such a weird thing, but if you ever break your windshield. Yeah. I was like, oh, 1-800-54-GIANT. Got it. You know Giant Glass because it's drink water. The guy behind Home Plate. He owns it. Yeah, I was like, oh, 1-800-54-GIANT. Got it. You know Giant Glass because Drinkwater, the guy behind home plate.

Starting point is 02:15:47 He owns it. Yeah. One of my favorite guys in the world. Dennis Drinkwater. Oh, I don't even know. You know Dennis Drinkwater? You know. He's the Red Sox fan who gets up as soon as the ball is hit from the home runs.

Starting point is 02:15:57 Oh, got it. Can we – I got to follow up. Dude, this guy. It's unbelievable. He's – he didn't take it all the way. Oh, dude. This guy. It's unbelievable. He's – he didn't take it all the right. Oh, yeah. He sits front row and has the best eye for pop-ups, knows when it's a walk-off, and he hits the aisle.

Starting point is 02:16:15 He is gone, bro. It is – I honestly think – he doesn't go as often anymore. He was more like early 2000s to mid 2000s. Let's call it 2004 to 2014. That window. And he was there. Just type it. First of all, it's a great name. Type it in and it auto beat the traffic.

Starting point is 02:16:35 But he in that era, he doesn't go as often anymore. But in that era, I would argue he was more devoted to the Red Sox than players on the team. I don't even know this guy he was there like every single night and and i believe he lived in wellesley or something like that so it's not like he didn't live across the street right so to make that trek to the park he would go every night like it was 86 games a year 80 81 81 what the guy in the blue you'll'll see him just pop up. Oh, wow.

Starting point is 02:17:05 And he does it every time. It doesn't even take a minute to celebrate the walkthrough itself. He's just... Oh, okay. He's leaving. He's got almost like a Trump-type hair. He's very recognizable. That's old school

Starting point is 02:17:21 because the Coke bottles are in it. Yeah. He knows and he's out. He's there occasionally still now, but there was one era when he was just like always, always there. He's the best. That is amazing. He knows it every single time. That's so funny because the best part, you would think, is it. That moment.

Starting point is 02:17:40 Yeah, I mean, beating the traffic. He's literally, I'm out of here. See you later. That is incredible. No, I couldn't be that guy because I fucking, I'm the worst ever. I've had so many jump up that, like, get caught in the infield. I used to do it when I was, like, at bars watching games. I'd be like, oh, shit.

Starting point is 02:18:00 And, like, literally, it's like infield fly roll, and I'm like, oh, fuck. The Yankees had one a couple games ago that it was probably 50 feet from the warning track. Yeah, they went nuts for it. That was a comedian there, Mike Dorval, the construction guy. Giant glass. Yeah, it's funny these things. I mean you go to like a minor league park and the wall and everything is just plastered with ads like everywhere. 1-800-54.

Starting point is 02:18:26 Gary Gellman used to do a joke about it when he would come to Boston. It was like a local. He's like, I like thinking of them in the studio. Who do you call when your windshield's busted? He's also like, it's like the most Boston term to say my windshield's busted. Also, I mean, is there just like a spate of like people just breaking windshields left and right in Boston? Vandalism and Yankee fans and fighting to hear some shit. I don't know.

Starting point is 02:18:49 How often does a windshield break? It makes sense for Fenway, though, because you have the parking garage across the street from the monster. But literally, like my windshield got chipped one time and like it was like immediately like one hundred fifty four giant. I mean, these guys, whether it's local or even, 1-800-54-GIANT. Done deal. And you're like, oh, that's – I mean these guys, whether it's local or even the Billy Mazes of the world, the Shamwows, all the infomercials, they're – at least in America. I don't know about worldwide. But they're like some of the most famous people in America.

Starting point is 02:19:19 Like everybody would know those people. Who? Just like the infomercial guys. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The specific ones. If you were to show but not anymore it's dying in the streets everyone's all streaming i was gonna say it's not you know you really don't have that anymore like we all used to be watching the same commercials

Starting point is 02:19:32 and the same thing every time and i'm sure it was regional but within your region everybody would know selena and barnes or this guy yeah you know it it's a weird like like if I were to meet some of those people, I'd be like, oh, my God. I'd be starstruck by the infomercial guy, you know? Yeah. All those jingles. We had Dave Dinger Ford and Braintree was another big Boston one. Dave Dinger Ford. It was like a car dealership.

Starting point is 02:19:58 I didn't have that one. If I met the guy who sung Cars for Kids, I'd be like, oh, my God. You're a musical legend. Oh, that one. When that commercial comes out, I have to like jump for the remote because you're a musical legend. Oh, that one, when that commercial come out, I have to like jump for the remote because it'll stick in my head for like a month.

Starting point is 02:20:08 Oh, whatever. Pabs, can you actually pull up the original recording of Baby Back Chili's? Obviously, it's not like a, but like this song has a high level of importance. Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 02:20:22 You know, it's not like a song song, but to the brand and the people who made it and the money it generated and all that Yeah, yeah. You know, it's not like a song song, but to the brand and the people who made it and the money it generated and all that shit, they're probably like, this is one of the most important recordings ever made.

Starting point is 02:20:32 Oh, I mean, it's the definition of iconic. Yeah. Like, yeah. Well, I'm sure these guys

Starting point is 02:20:37 got like five grand. And it's sold a billion dollars. most records in the last 30 years. 100%. And if you walk up to anybody and go like, I want my baby back, they'd be like,

Starting point is 02:20:46 Chili! There is no mistaking it at all. Yeah, they should have gotten equity in the Chili's brand. The whole chain. Yeah, I bet they got like a day rate and that's it. Before we get too far from the Sox, you watched

Starting point is 02:21:02 the comeback yet? I have not yet. No way, dude! I was on the road and the other thing is we get too far from the socks you watched the comeback yet i have not yet no way i have well i was on the road and the other thing is i don't know i have a fucked up thing here like sometimes i'm like i can't watch it it'd make me first of all it makes me emotional but also i'm like that's ours i don't want the world to see this i don't know it's like very like a weird thing i don't know i'm like i don't know i can't – I don't know what it is. Well, let me just let you know the rest of the world knows what happens. I have a blockage.

Starting point is 02:21:28 I should. I should watch. I had a blockage too because it was 20 years ago. But I also – I think you've maintained your baseball fandom. Mine has kind of waned a bit over the last three to four years of Sox decline. And like I'm fully back. I'm like the biggest baseball fan in the world i don't think i've missed a game it's obviously been the playoffs since then i think i've missed the game since i watched it it is awesome that was a very great team to root for yeah stars but it also had

Starting point is 02:21:57 baseball guys and it had you know obviously the the theater and the curse and all of that but like they were they're actually probably a very hateable team if you're like the Yankees. I'm sure they hate some of those guys. But the rest of the world. They're a bunch of peasants. Yeah. Obviously not as far as spending goes, but the players themselves are actually peasants. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:22:16 But I feel like that's like the best kind of baseball to root for, those guys. Oh, it was awesome. I mean I got to watch it. I guess it's hard to watch. I have a baby and then I'm working and all this stuff and i'm exhausted three episodes each is an hour first episode is the 03 season so it ends with the boone home run right second episode is uh the off season which like i the off that was one of the craziest parts to me just like the arms race like it was right like like i think obviously last season we had showhei, but really the bulk of the offseason is like,

Starting point is 02:22:46 where's Jordan Montgomery going? Right, right, right. And that was Schilling, Sheffield, A-Rod, Manny, Nomar, Keith Falk, tons of massive names all going to two teams. Crazy. Right. No, and then the Sox, if I remember correctly, had A-Rod, but the players union kind of squashed it. It was a, they had sent, which Theo got bailed out on washed it was a they they had sent why why which theo got

Starting point is 02:23:05 bailed out on because it was a bad trade well i don't know if it's a bad trade but like ultimately you probably don't win at least at 07 you probably definitely don't win but it was manny and john lester for a rod right and then it was nomar to the white socks the nomar fall from grace which obviously i remembered wait so they would have lost Nomar, Lester, and Manny. Yeah. I mean, they ultimately end up losing Nomar anyway, like three months later. Right. But they didn't lose him.

Starting point is 02:23:32 They got him for Orlando. Which ended up being. But the original Nomar trade was to the White Sox. When they shipped out Manny and got A-Rod, they shipped out Nomar. And that was for Maglio Ordonez and Brandon McCarthy. So it was. And then five months later later whatever then that was in the off season and then the trade deadline they finally for all covered for a little bit and doug mckevich so the fall from batman to get maglio ordonez who's a borderline hall of famer probably not and then brandon mccarthy who

Starting point is 02:24:03 was you know a 10 yearyear – Yeah, like a – He was a solid pitcher. He wasn't great, but it was – I mean, A-Rod would have mashed him off the wall. I mean, yeah. A-Rod would have been like 60. Yeah, he would have. 60.

Starting point is 02:24:17 So that's one of the great what-ifs of sports history. But I think the way it played out is even better. Yeah. I'm wondering if, like, you know, college football has a lot of rivalries and whatnot, but I just feel like with the way sports has gone and brands and internet and all this shit, I just don't know if there will ever be, like,

Starting point is 02:24:40 blood feud-type rivalry like that ever again. Well, it was pretty amazing. Well, also the, whatever they called it, the lopsided scheduling or whatever, they were playing 14 times a year or 18 times a year. 19 times a year. Yeah, so it's like you see those guys over and over. Now it's only getting worse.

Starting point is 02:24:57 Right, and then to have back-to-back seven-game series. So you had 14 post-games and 36 regular season games in two years. Crazy. In two seasons. And then they also were in the ALCS in 99 and had a brawl with the Clemens and Manny. Yeah. Which was great. So it was like a five-year period of just brawls and all that shit. I believe I remember reading – this was a long time ago i read it but in 03 which is the pats already won two super bowls in oath or no

Starting point is 02:25:26 one super bowl in 03 like a socks raise tuesday game would outperform a pats game on like some ratings wise yeah yeah so like wow that to what it is now yeah is well that's the tom brady effect yeah that's that's tom brady for you right there in a nutshell once he took over. But, yeah, I mean that – it was baseball like over everything. And then – Also, I think once you break your curse and you win a few, it just becomes – I think that's more like – we were talking about this the other day actually. Like it's hard to keep the passion with how sports are marketed now.

Starting point is 02:26:02 Right. Because it's not about rivalry. Right. It's about individual players. Stars. Which, to be fair, we cried about forever. We'd be like, they don't with how sports are marketed now. Right. Because it's not about rivalry. Right. It's about individual players. Stars. Which, to be fair, we cried about forever. We'd be like, they don't know how to market their players. Well, now they market players rather than teams.

Starting point is 02:26:11 Yeah, you know Otani's. And it's like it's hard to keep that anger. It's the thing that people are complaining about. This is how you have to bash the Otani's up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like kind of symbolic of how what – how it shifted to that. So then it's like I was – my kid's little league, like there was a kid wearing a Mookie Betts jersey. I was like, what the fuck is this about?

Starting point is 02:26:35 Like you're wearing New York. Like what are you doing wearing a Dodgers jersey? Right. Mookie Betts is his favorite player and knows the name and all that shit. You know who's just got to be sick to his stomach is Mike Trout. Oh, my God. Just like Otani goes and wins the World Series one year after getting out of town, and he's probably too injured to ever really finish his career strong.

Starting point is 02:26:56 It's going to just be like, oh, yeah, there was this guy who was the best player of all time, but he never really did anything. That's really going to be like 20, 30, 40, 50 years from now. People will be like, oh 30 40 50 years from now that that will be people will be like oh who is that guy i i hope he's the death of and i think i think we did i think it's it's come back to earth but the of analytics i'm i i believe analytics all that good shit but like i do think everything has a bit of a middle ground right look at his war like he hasn't and i get i and I know baseball is far from an individual sport. But, like, make the DS for me before we start crowning a guy. Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 02:27:32 You got to do something in the postseason. Oof, those numbers. 8, 40, 18, 10 for home runs the last few years. Yeah, I mean, he's just so injured, and it's just not like, you know. I think Tito. Also, you've been playing when you're 32, but you started when you're 19. Right. You got a lot of extra miles on you there, you know.

Starting point is 02:27:52 Tito, I think, was, and good for the Reds to have him, like the best manager of in between. Because Tito respected analytics, believed in them, but also knew they weren't everything. Right, right. And they actually asked him about that, where they were like,ave roberts steal analytics will tell you don't ever steal a base right and he he had to steal he goes what they go what do you say about the analytics on that one he goes i say shove him up your fucking ass that that individual play i think is also one

Starting point is 02:28:22 of the the greatest little cat and mouse things you'll ever watch. Well, him making that face. The whole fucking world knows what's going on, throws over however many times. He says that, dude. He says exactly that. Dave Roberts, he's talking about his high school, maybe high school, maybe college running coach or base stealing coach, wherever he got this base stealing coach from I don't know, and he said he told me early on

Starting point is 02:28:50 one day, you're going to be out of base and the whole world's going to know you're going and you still got to go oh god it was the best and one of those throws was so close yeah I bet I bet man

Starting point is 02:29:03 and Millar drawing the walk, and then Miller hitting the base hit. I mean, it's just – Yeah, but – Dave Robinson, the pop-up slide. Like, the fact that, you know, you stole the base, but then you got to get the fucking hit. Yeah, right.

Starting point is 02:29:15 And they did. It's just, like, so unbelievable. Bill Miller had a good quote about that. He was like – He's like, look, you don't go into an at-bat hoping to get a hit off of Mariano Rivera. You know the only way you're going to get a hit is if he makes a mistake. So you go in hoping he makes a mistake.

Starting point is 02:29:30 And then you've got to capitalize on the mistake. Right. You get maybe one pitch per at-bat to, you know. It was also like people weren't really shifting then. I mean, it's a ground ball at the middle, and it feels like 10 years later, the shortstop would have just gobbled it right up. Yeah, that's where analytics does sort of. Particularly off Bill Miller.

Starting point is 02:29:48 I don't have – I'm sure he went oppo plenty of times, but I remember Bill Miller was a big pole guy. Right, right. Now, I mean, a ground ball up the middle now, like if you hit the ball back at the pitcher for the first 130 years of baseball, it's like that's a base hit. And now every time there's a shortstop right there. Right.

Starting point is 02:30:06 It's figured out the exact spot to put these guys. I think people forget how much, like, getting rid of the shift, I think, drastically changed the game back. Oh, I love it. I love the race change they made. But it is, like, it's got to be infuriating if you are one of these teams that lived through the transition of like when you were allowed to and now you're not allowed to. And you're in the playoffs. You're in a big spot. And you know we could just put a guy in shallow right field and he'll be out.

Starting point is 02:30:36 We're just not allowed to anymore. And then he hits the ball right fucking there. And you're like, god damn it, dude. But it got so silly towards the end. There was – I think it was the Dodgers at one point had – they had like five guys in the infield. It was just like a wall of dudes just waiting there because it was like – But we had – I always remember this quote. We had George Brett in the office eons ago.

Starting point is 02:30:58 And we were talking – he was awesome. He was so fucking awesome. Lived up to like everything you'd ever want from George Brett. We were talking about all kinds of stuff like like what was your off-season training routine? He's like, every day I probably play 18, drink 12. But we were asking him about the shift. And he goes, the shift was around when I was playing. I had to hit 600.

Starting point is 02:31:24 We're like, why? He goes, I had to hit it the other way because I can. I was like, I had to hit 600. We're like, why? He goes, I had to hit it the other way because I can. I was like, it's so fucking weird. Every fucking time. To be able to put a ball where you want to put it, like the Gwynns and the guys like that, it's like I'm not going to get a hit. I'm going to get the hit I need to get every time.

Starting point is 02:31:39 Right. Do you have any older player or even comedian or anything like that who you met and you were like, dude, you are everything you lived up to be? Wow. Great question. I don't know. First, I just want to say George Brett, the shitting the pants story is like my number one. It's like still the king of the internet.

Starting point is 02:31:57 It really is. It was at the perfect time where we were able to get it, you know, for whatever reason. He's mic'd up and that makes its way to the internet. I don't even know, was that on social media? That was probably on like, like, like YouTube maybe.

Starting point is 02:32:09 I think it was on YouTube. Yeah. George Blunt has a story to tell was the, yeah, yeah, perfect double tapered shit. I still don't really know

Starting point is 02:32:15 what a double tapered shit means. The best lie of the whole thing is who's pitching this game? Yeah, at the very end. It's like the perfect button. what's going on? Who's pitching this game?

Starting point is 02:32:22 Yeah, go to the very, very end. And what I love, what I love about this is he's not telling the story to anyone in particular. Nobody's listening. He's just talking. He's walking around.

Starting point is 02:32:31 And what always made me laugh is that this is like spring training. Like, guys are trying to make the club. Yeah. Like, they're nervous. They're trying to make the club. And he's just walking around. And this is like 20-year-old kids, like, I hope I make the team. And a fucking Hall of Famer

Starting point is 02:32:45 is just talking to nobody. And also it starts with him going I farted. That's the first line is I farted and the last line is who's bitching this game.

Starting point is 02:32:54 Porter! Porter's also such a like fake baseball Hey Porter I shit my pants last night. What? He goes I'm good for two a year.

Starting point is 02:33:01 It's amazing. I got black bucks. I'm fucked. When he says a year. It's amazing. I got black bucks. I'm fucked. When he says I'm fucked, it's amazing. He goes, I'm wearing black bucks. I'm fucked. It's arguably the greatest story I've ever told. It really is.

Starting point is 02:33:17 And it's long enough that it's ridiculous, short enough that you can live good. Twice a year. He goes, I don't know, a long time. He clarifies it many times. It's a true story. It's a true story. Oh, it's too much.

Starting point is 02:33:35 I mean, yeah, this is when baseball players were men. Oh, no, he's the greatest. Yeah, what year was that? It's got to be. Tony Pena. By the way, that's not the Bellagio story. That's not what it's called.

Starting point is 02:33:51 No, it's the George Brett's story. The original YouTube, it was titled George Brett has a story to tell. I don't know if that's still up there because I'm wondering how many views that has or when it got uploaded, if it's still titled that anywhere. That is. And nobody's interested in listening to this story. got uploaded if it's still titled that anywhere. And nobody's interested in listening to this story. They're all just stretching, walking around. It makes you think that

Starting point is 02:34:12 they were, you know... So that's 11 years ago. There's no way. Even that one only having 1.2 is crazy. That lets you know that this happens all the time with George Brown. Like the stories he's telling are always just like, oh, there goes George again.

Starting point is 02:34:31 Just fucking talking, dude. But yeah, the grainy footage and the whole transcript of this one, it's incredible. It really is. Probably if you're a sports fan and you enjoy some storytelling and some comedy, it's the perfect fucking. I just spent an afternoon watching like, I was in a hotel that had an MLB network. It was like the George Brett story and it was great. The craziest thing is like him and Nettles getting in like a full fist fight and no one gets ejected. Yes.

Starting point is 02:34:57 It's like a playoff game. They're like kicking each other and fighting each other in the face. Like, all right, boys. Cosmer and Moustakis or whoever, their podcast. What's that called? I wouldn't know, but I know. Hosmer has a podcast. And they were talking about that Digging Deep podcast, and they go over that.

Starting point is 02:35:14 And, I mean, it is a fucking brawl. Yeah. And nobody even gets checked. And then they just go back to his own third base. It was so good. There's something else to that story that they told. Like, it was kind of like a misunderstanding. Like, there really wasn't a need to have a fight.

Starting point is 02:35:32 Whatever it was, it was kind of just like, we brawled for, like, no fucking reason. And then it was like, yeah, but just go back to the dugout. It's crazy to think that now things are happening that in 40 years, people are going to be like, and you need to get kicked out for that. Right. Like Mike Milbury beating someone with a shoe. And you're like, yeah, that was just hockey. Yeah, that's how it was.

Starting point is 02:35:50 But what are they even doing now? I think about this a lot because when I was a kid in the 90s, 2000s, watching baseball highlights of the 70s, and then these older guys would be going, that's when baseball was baseball. And now people are saying that about 0304. Right, right. But in 0304 everyone was like, these guys are a bunch of pussies now. Because in my day, Don Zimmer, they would have stomped Don Zimmer's face in.

Starting point is 02:36:12 They would have cursed on him, killed him. But now you watch it, you're like, they just threw an old man on the ground back then. So everyone thinks everyone's a pussy, basically. Pedro grabbed an 80-year-old man by his ears and fucking threw him to the ground. The way he just like rolls is so good, man. But I think also hockey, eventually fighting will be gone.

Starting point is 02:36:30 And they'll be like, back in 2024, they were beating the shit out of each other. Fighting in hockey is still kind of crazy that they still allow that. I'm surprised that's not happening. It's so rare now. But yeah. But Missoula was just saying they should bring it back to the NBA. I almost said WNBA. That's crazy.

Starting point is 02:36:45 Bring it to both. I mean, it was never really like... bring him back to the NBA. I almost said WNBA. That's crazy. Bring them both. I mean, it was never really like – Manning's holding the bat. Oh, so good. The Kareem Garcia bit with Pedro was always great too. Who is Kareem Garcia? Who are you? But he was like trying to say he wasn't throwing at him.

Starting point is 02:37:00 He was like, you were blatantly headhunting Pedro. Yeah. He was like the most notorious headhunter in the world. Who was the guy on the raise he hit, and then he threw like a perfect game after? Gerald Williams. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He charges, and then I think he pitches like eight and a third

Starting point is 02:37:15 perfect innings after getting in a brawl. No hit innings or something. Dude, the way he just tosses. What was Zimmer even thinking, bro? Zimmer throws the first punch. Zimmer has an arm. Yeah, he goes at him. Pedro was like him but i think even the guys in the red socks were like dude dude dude take it easy you can't he can't beat up the oxygenarian you might kill him dude when i'm watching the socks doc i stood up my

Starting point is 02:37:40 yeah it's yeah dude the the the theater was unparalleled again like you wouldn't you couldn't script it i remember being i'm so this is like so humiliating but i was like young and i was like i mean i was like 21 when this happened 22 but i remember being like he's a fucking traitor because he was the you know he'd manage the socks yeah he's like you fucking traitor my dad's like come on just relax i'm like traitor he like had the gig 25 years ago it is nuts that that that the the i i was like why did they put the comeback out now and they're like oh it's the 20th anniversary it's like oh my god yeah that makes me because i always think about like when i was you know growing up in the 90s if you were to tell me something about the

Starting point is 02:38:23 70s i would be like ancient you know like yeah almost like roll my eyes i don't want to hear about that shit and that's probably what you know like the comeback to like a young kid on tiktok is probably like i don't want to watch that shit yeah and it's like no you gotta yeah but no you don't understand it was the best and they're probably like i don't give a fuck it happened in 2004. That's so old. It's like, no, I promise you. My mom wasn't even born yet. Yeah, right, right, right.

Starting point is 02:38:51 But I do – I just maintain whether it's sports like this or music or some movies, entertainment, I do just think that era, it is better than – it is better. Kevin does these things. He's like, I know. I know I sound crazy. But I'm right. But I'm right. But I do think I'm right. I think it was the perfect – the last bit of like before the internet.

Starting point is 02:39:18 It was like – because like the 60s, 70s, 80s, all that shit feels like the same to me. And then it feels like in the 90s into the 2000s, it started to change. But you just had – it's like baseball. It's like Tito Francona. That era is Tito Francona. It's like you had a little bit of both, the new and the old, before it just all goes to absolute shit. I mean, what would you say – I know we're kind of in like a gold era of comedy as far as like money and success and opportunity and all that. But what do you think is – is it the funniest comedy spin?

Starting point is 02:39:52 That's an interesting question because comedy holds up so poorly. Yeah. It's one of the great and horrible things about comedy. Like you watch almost any comedy from the 80s. You're like, this shit's garbage. You're like, this guy's one of the best ever. Right. So I don't know.

Starting point is 02:40:07 It's hard to say like funniest because you watch 80s comedy. You're like, this is embarrassing. Yeah. But like, like a regular open mic or like nowadays

Starting point is 02:40:15 is putting up shit that, you know, the best of the best. Like what do you think that it'll age that way? Do you think people will be looking at the greats of this era being like,

Starting point is 02:40:22 that's fucking embarrassing. I don't know. It's hard to say. maybe it's weird to think about watching like shane gillis and being like this guy sucks like you're fucking lame dude that's so lame yeah but even like you watch like eddie murphy's like half of it i'm like oh this isn't so great yeah yeah um is it bad or like uh is it is it just like poorly done or is like the material you know like what what about it is is bad in your eyes i don't know it's not even like bad it's just like i don't know it's hard to say it's just taken out of the time it doesn't it doesn't work as well as film or sports like you can watch a 1975 basketball game and be like this is a little

Starting point is 02:41:04 weird but it's competitive yeah playing the same way i don't know what it is but i do think this is a great time for but there's also so much horrible comedy going on right now too i mean i can't say that instagram crowd work stuff is the glorious part of stand-up comedy maybe right before uh instagram social media i do feel though when you get a good crowd work work bit – like how much crowd work was going on back then? Was it still a part of the – That was just crowd work comics and not – like there was like a few crowd work guys. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:41:34 And then everyone else was like, that's embarrassing. Why are you talking to the audience? Yeah, yeah. Because I feel like when you get a good crowd work bit, it that you know it was off the cuff it was unplanned like and you were funny on your feet and it all right comes together and then some of it is you know i i love when you know you just wedge your material into a crowd work you know what do you do for a living oh that's like this you just like pivot to your joke right crowd work all of a sudden you know but i i do feel like it uh became like a big part of what I think people love about this era of comedy.

Starting point is 02:42:11 And I don't think it was nearly, you know, done or talked about prior. No, nobody really did it at all. I mean, certainly you wouldn't put out a special of – I mean, I think Todd Barry was the first one to do it, which was, I don't know, 10 years ago now 10 years ago now 15 years i can't keep track of time but there was very few people that did that and there'd be a couple guys there was a couple guys that like that's their thing ian bag has always been doing that was big and um phil hanley later is like a peer that would do it and was like amazing at it still is so it's great for him that it's like oh this is what i've been doing the whole time yeah he's the best yeah but um it's hard because a lot of crowd work it's like well you

Starting point is 02:42:49 should be the funniest one in the room you should be able to take what somebody's saying make it funny agrees and the hard thing about comedy is getting everybody to um you know connect with something and so if you're doing it in the room it's easier to connect because it just happened yeah i always use this as an example jeff r Ross used to do a joke where he used to read poems years ago, and then he would say, can we turn the lights down? And then they wouldn't move, and it'd go perfect. And it would kill because you're like, well, everyone just experienced that. He asked me to turn the lights down. The lights didn't go down, so he says perfect.

Starting point is 02:43:18 Everybody relates to it. It just happened. Whereas if you're like, you ever take a shower and you have to shit your pants? And people are like, no. No, that's never happened. I've never had that. The George Ritz of the world. He's like, no, dude, I you ever take a shower and you have to shit your – and people are like, no. I've never had that. The George Ritz of the world. He's like, no, dude. I don't know what you're talking about.

Starting point is 02:43:29 Yeah. It's like trickier to get like kind of whatever observational humor to work. But if someone says, yeah, I once blew a kid in a school bus, you're like, hey, the driver or whatever. Everyone's like, oh, Jesus. So it's a little bit easier. But also there's plenty of people who do crowd work and they're horrible at it which i always joke sometimes i'll be like what do you i'm like i'm gonna do some crowd work because i don't want to give away material and i'll literally be like what do you do and the guy's like i'm in accounting and i'm

Starting point is 02:43:55 like oh that's that's crazy yeah i'm just having a conversation with you like crowd work yeah yeah there is some skill to it, of course. But Nick Tappal used to always say, he'd be like, yeah, you're funny off the cuff. That's why you start writing jokes. Right, right, right. You should be funny off the cuff. Right, right. No, but I think it just puts it – it's like a club in your bag.

Starting point is 02:44:19 You know what I mean? It's like I can do the written jokes. I can do some storytelling. I can do some crowd work and you kind of put it all together. DeStefano just posted a video of him doing like a little history bit. Did you see this? No. He was talking about why – how America beat the British to win our independence. And he tells the story about how one of Ben Franklin's – one of the chicks that Benjamin Franklin was fucking was banging King Louis.

Starting point is 02:44:54 And Benjamin Franklin told him – told her, next time you're with Louis, tell him that at the Battle of Saratoga where America, the colonies won, but like barely, but tell him that we smoked them and that we are like winning this war. And we just need to be like put over the top. So tell Louis to tell the French to send their army, send their Navy. And like, we'll seal the deal. And I was like, wow. And he's like, I just made all this up. It's a long clip.

Starting point is 02:45:22 He tells it very funny. And at the end, he's like, the best part is I kind of just made all of that up. And I almost didn't make it to the end of it because it is like a few minutes. And I was about – and actually at the time, I reposted it without even getting to the end of it because I was like, this is amazing. This is Chris at his best. But at the end, he's like, I just made it all up. As you were talking, I was thinking. I was like, it's crazy how time makes stories so much better.

Starting point is 02:45:44 I'm sure even the one where how time makes stories so much better. I'm sure even the one where I just told the Pejora, I'm sure Pejora wasn't like, you want to still bounce down fucking Mass Pike. He probably said it. I hit a home run the other day. Come on, man. I hit a home run the other day. And now it's like this very defiant moment. Yep.

Starting point is 02:46:02 Well, once you got a story, I feel like you're allowed to embellish it. Once you know you got the fish on the line. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When something happens to you and you tell the story for the line. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When something happens to you and you tell the story for the first time and everyone's like, whoa, holy shit, you're allowed to punch it up. There's so many great stories to that. People are like, that never happened.

Starting point is 02:46:13 Like the Ricky Henderson, John Ulruid story. They're like, that's not real. Yeah, no. And then when you hear that it's not real, you're like, yeah, obviously we know it is. It makes no fucking sense. You know, we were talking about that the other day actually with interviewing or hearing interviews from famous TV shows and stuff like that. And they're like, yeah, Parks and Rec.

Starting point is 02:46:35 We still have a group text. And you're like, you still have a group text? That's crazy. Yeah, no shit. They were friends for a decade. Of course they still talk sometimes. Yeah, no shit. He was on the team for five years. Of course they still talk sometimes. Yeah. Yeah, no shit. He was on the team for five years.

Starting point is 02:46:45 Of course he still knows his fucking teammates. But that's where, you know, I guess it's, it's like, it's believable with Ricky Henderson.

Starting point is 02:46:54 Right, right. So that's where the good stories lie where it's like, well, that, I don't know, could have been true if Ricky Henderson

Starting point is 02:46:59 was that ridiculous. I just heard there's an old joke story about someone asking John Lennon, is Ringo, the best drummer in the world. And he said, he's not even the best drummer in the Beatles.

Starting point is 02:47:08 And he never said that. And then you're like, well, who's writing these jokes? Yeah. Yeah. But I always think that too, about like there,

Starting point is 02:47:17 there's all the urban legends that like seem to kind of, whether you're from the seventies, eighties, nineties, now even into the internet era, like everybody knows these urban legends. But like somebody told that story for the first time. There's some guy out there probably in the 60s, 70s, 80s who was like, I told that story first. It was me. And now like the whole world thinks that there was a cann there was a cannibal or there was a this or that. I think about that. Bill Burr used to do a bit about this

Starting point is 02:47:47 and I don't know if it's on any specials, but he had a joke about, like these street jokes started somewhere. Someone's writing these jokes and the joke he uses is, what's the difference between a Jew and a canoe? A canoe tips. And he's like,

Starting point is 02:47:57 do you understand that's better than anything I've ever written? Ever written. And then the joke he does, he's like, that guy just, one of these like the most brilliant comedians, he just can't get a job

Starting point is 02:48:04 because he's so racist. Like they hire him for a TV show and he's like, that guy just, what if he's like the most brilliant comedian? He just can't get a job because he's so racist. They hire him for a TV show and he's like, he's fucking Puerto Rico. And they're like, you got to leave. But it is. It's like every street joke you've ever heard. Somebody came up with that joke. The very first time. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:48:17 Just fucking murdered. And I guess there was just no way, though. I mean, in the beginning, there had to be so much joke stealing, right? Oh, yeah. When there was no internet, no no you're not even recording it's like i'll tell this story in ohio then i'm gonna steal it and bring it to california no one's gonna fucking know right yeah of course and now it's like you say anything someone's like that's fucking someone's been right and then i'll go look at it and i'm like we say like we both say water bottle yeah it's like not even close to the

Starting point is 02:48:42 same bit no and of course like there's gonna be like you know topics that overlap so many things we're talking about what would you do if you found out someone was like really really stealing your bits like what is your like what what is your your rebuttal for that now it's like so hard to get away that oh i feel like only like a real like open mic or brand new comic is doing that. I've had a couple of times where someone's like, hey, this person's taking all your stuff. And then you just go, hey, like you can't do that. What are you crazy?

Starting point is 02:49:12 Usually they're like, oh, yeah, yeah. Usually they're like, oh, I'm a fan. I didn't know. Like, it's like, I just feel like there's not a lot of blatant theft anymore. Or maybe there's like- Well, you really, you're right. You're really, you're gonna, unless you really suck,

Starting point is 02:49:30 if somebody is recording you, if you're good enough that like there's a camera on, you're gonna get caught. Yeah. And there's so many more fans now that would be like, I heard that already. Yeah, exactly.

Starting point is 02:49:38 I don't think that happened. Exactly. I think when I started, it was much easier. There's a few people kind of like famously would be taking Joe. And then in Boston, like comics would like beat you up.

Starting point is 02:49:47 They'd go like smash you around. Yeah, yeah. That's my fucking, you know. But now I just think it's so rare. I think people know. And now it's like people are more likely to use AI to come up with jokes than stealing jokes from other people. And I've always thought it was annoying how quickly people go to like jump to like stealing jokes. And I've had comics,

Starting point is 02:50:07 I won't name names, but I had a comic be like, I fired my opener. He was doing my bits. And I'm like, you think this young comic just decided to do your bit in front of you? You think it's impossible that he came up with something similar? And I was talking to,

Starting point is 02:50:19 and I started in Boston, obviously in Boston, they're extra like, fuck everyone's a thief. We're the fucking best. We're the funniest. Yeah. And there was a joke, a guy using a thief. We're the fucking best of best. We're the funniest. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And there was a joke.

Starting point is 02:50:27 A guy used an example. I got to be careful because I don't want him to hear this. But he used an example of, there was a, in LA, there's a museum of, what's the word? Not acceptance of,

Starting point is 02:50:38 a word that's like acceptance. Inclusivity? Inclusivity. Something like that. It's a museum. Can we look this up? LA Museum Of

Starting point is 02:50:47 Fucking What's one of those words Acceptance Equality No Oh Fuck me hard What's

Starting point is 02:50:57 Social justice No No It's Oh I suck I'm mad that I can't think of it That's a tough No

Starting point is 02:51:04 It's not even Because it's going to come up suck. I'm mad that I can't think of it. That's a tough one. No, it's not even, because it's going to come up like, you know, woke stuff or whatever. Oh, fuck me. I'll think of it. But anyways, he's like, it's the museum. This isn't going to work, but this comic was talking. He's like, yeah, that guy stole my bit. I had a bit about the Museum of Acceptance, let's say.

Starting point is 02:51:25 And I said, I went in there, I took a shit on the floor, and they threw me out. And he's like, this guy did the same bit, but he said, I'm pissing on the floor, and I'm like, do you think somebody couldn't come up with the Museum of Acceptance wouldn't let me shit on the floor? And this would be funnier if I, it's not acceptance, it's something like that. It's like, you know. I love how you're just going to go through every museum in the world.

Starting point is 02:51:41 Appreciate it. Where do you draw the line when you're writing jokes between I was inspired by this or like, ah, it's too close? I mean,

Starting point is 02:51:53 do you listen to like podcasts and do you watch specials and stuff? No. If you hear something and it kind of gets in your brain, it's hard to, you know,

Starting point is 02:51:59 not write it. I watch so little standup now. I never like, I don't like watching specials. Not because of that, because I know how much better the show was live. I try to watch comics live only because that's how comedy should be. And even the best special, like Chris Rock, Bring the Pain, as amazing as it is, if you're in the room, it would be 50 times better.

Starting point is 02:52:20 And I also find just comedy cringy sometimes. I love it, but I'm like in the room even i listen to myself from a year ago like oh what the hell was that yeah i'm sure and um you're gonna find it i know it tolerance he's the worst googler in the world call you a bad googler again win for you that's what it was yeah the museum of talent so anyways the joke is yeah i took a shit on the ground and then this guy all of a sudden he's doing i took a piss, the Museum of Talent. So anyways, the joke is, yeah, I took a shit on the ground. And then this guy, all of a sudden, he's doing, I took a piss on the wall. And I'm like, yeah, you think maybe someone could have came up with, they don't tolerate this? Yeah.

Starting point is 02:52:52 Like, that's impossible. They definitely stole your bit. Anyways, back to what were we talking about? Oh, watching specials. So I try to watch Stand Up Live. And I've thought of, I've done jokes where i'm like wait did i see louis do this or shane do this and then i realized it's me i did this i'm like oh i'm stealing from myself i'm like john fogarty and i've literally had that recently where i'm doing a bit and i'm

Starting point is 02:53:15 like i think i said this before like all of a sudden and then you're like wait i did this bit i've already done 10 years ago wow that's crazy yeah that's that's how you know you you know you're you've been in it long enough that you're stealing from yourself. Right. It's a good bit in its own right. I try to really keep things personal. Like this happened,

Starting point is 02:53:32 this is a thing that happens to me. So it's going to be hard. Like my uncle Dale did this. No one's going to be like, my uncle Bob shot fire in my face. So that's what doing like topical is so hard now, which I never did anyways. But like you, by the time you watch like Seth Meyers monologue, you're like, I've heard every single one of these jokes on Twitter.

Starting point is 02:53:50 Yeah, it's all that. Yeah. Well, that's the other thing too is like you'll – you see a random person with like the funniest tweet on the topic. Yeah, yeah. And it's like, well, now I've seen that and I know that's the funniest thing to say about this topic. But I can't say it because this guy did. You know what I mean? No, I mean in Instagram comments all the time, I see stuff that I'm like,

Starting point is 02:54:12 this is the funniest thing I've ever read. Yeah, and that's just a – we talked about it recently with somebody, another comic where it was just like the funniest guy in the world might just not have the drive, the ability, the time to go up on stage every night and all that shit. But if he did, you know. But for one-off jokes here and there, it's like this guy is the funniest person we know. Yeah, yeah. No, I know a few people like that from Boston, my best friend.

Starting point is 02:54:35 I'm like, he's way funny. I'm glad he's not a comic. Well, that's the best one you can take from your friends who are. Yeah, yeah. That's good. I know. You go back to your boring life. I'm going to put that on the internet right i think kyle canane had a quote like that about like comics who have egos which is like one of my favorites of it like where he was

Starting point is 02:54:52 like every comic is not the funniest one of their friends right right any comic with an ego tell him to fuck off or something like that yeah that's a good point yeah yeah that's very good that's very good the um i had a question for. I just thought when you mentioned Louis. How much time do you spend writing movies versus or writing any kind of a different medium versus stand-up? Not much. Not as much as I'd like to. I always want to be – You write more comedy?

Starting point is 02:55:21 Yeah, more comedy. Well, now I have a baby, so everything is fucking topsy-turvy, which is the only reason I don't watch that many specials because when I get the free time, there's sports. And sometimes – do you guys ever get jealous of people that don't like sports because I'm like, so you just watch film? That's wonderful. Bro, all the fucking time. If it wasn't for the Mets' magical season this year, I was really close to being like, I'm just going to be a casual sports fan for the rest of my life I'm not doing this anymore last night I was watching I was flipping back and forth between a

Starting point is 02:55:50 6-2 Bruins game and a 7-0 in the third quarter football game and I was like what the fuck am I doing and you could be watching like you know an Oscar winning movie yes there's like endless amount of films and books and I'm like I'll talk to my buddy Ronan who I do a movie podcast with sometimes.

Starting point is 02:56:06 And he's just like, have you seen this? Oh, I watched this. You got to watch this. I'm like, it's the World Series. And I'm so jealous of people that are like, I don't care. Bro, there was a month straight. The Mets trying to make the playoffs and then in the playoffs. It was like, I did nothing.

Starting point is 02:56:20 Watch this. I just stay up real late though. Yeah. After the game finishes. Well, that's the problem. You have a baby and you got to get sleep. You don't know what it's like. But anyways, no, I mean, I don't.

Starting point is 02:56:33 It's so hard for me to motivate to write. I just made a documentary about my buddy Tom Dustin who's a comedian and I'm excited for it to come out. But that was easier because I don't have to write anything. I can just follow him around with a camera. I have no discipline. In stand-up even, it's hard to write. But at least I can be like, oh, that was easier because like i don't have to write anything i can just follow him around with the camera i have no i have no discipline and stand up even it's hard to write but at least i can be like oh that was hilarious i'm gonna go tail out on stage and you can kind of do it that way but sitting and right i wish i wish i had the fucking discipline right writing is uh i think you have like a prime in writing like sports almost yeah i don't i don't think i could go back to

Starting point is 02:57:03 like what we used to do like writing all day long oh probably not but like a lot of great writers did their writing later in life so then maybe it's just a window yeah like whether it happens early or later i think you get dialed in on writing but you i don't know i don't know what i'm talking about but i just feel like i experience like Not experience writing, more experience living. Life, yeah. But I don't know what I'm talking about. It's probably about if you can make money writing, if you can put it out as – like once you become an acclaimed author or screenwriter or whatever, it's probably a lot easier because it's like this is going to become a movie. This is going to become a movie. This is going to become a book. If you're writing and like struggling or writing and you take up other, you know, mediums, I think it's, I find it hard.

Starting point is 02:57:56 It's like this takes a lot of time and it doesn't give the same reward. It's just not, you know, what it once was. Well, that's why stand up to me. Oh, it's not that it's easy. It just seemed the easiest because with writing a movie, that's why stand-up to me, it's not that it's easy. It just seemed the easiest because with writing a movie, that's what I really wanted to be was like a filmmaker and screenwriter.

Starting point is 02:58:11 But you're like, this is going to take me a year. A year? And then everyone's like, no, we don't like it. And then you're like, shit, with stand-up, I can be like, oh, my shoe came untied

Starting point is 02:58:19 and I stepped in dog shit. I can go tell that tonight. Like it's a real thing tonight. Great bit. Don't steal it. Don't steal steal it nobody take my shoot came untied and i stepped in dog shit that's it's very similar to blogging where it was like we would post on the internet like 10 12 times a day just funny reactions and quick things and if it sucked you just moved on to the next thing right but if i took a time to write a book and it took me like a couple years if i made an album and it took me a

Starting point is 02:58:44 long time and then I put it out and the first week everyone's like this sucks right be like what the fuck did I just spend a year for I gotta kill myself and also I don't like dealing with I during pandemic when it first started I was like I'm gonna write the book I always wanted to write I started writing

Starting point is 02:58:59 stories and my agent you know I have good agents and everything they were like we're gonna send it to the literary department and they sent it and the woman was like okay there's some funny stuff but this is like a fire hose of nonsense you got to fix this get this and i was like this i'm out yeah the contest yeah i can't there's gonna be one draft and that's it and if it doesn't work i'm done no i was like and then when i made the movie with louis like he was it was he funded the movie like we sent it to nobody which maybe we should have sent it to a couple of people, but we just wrote it. And like, there was nobody to go, oh, here's these notes.

Starting point is 02:59:33 We can do this. We got to pitch it. Cause I hate fucking pitching and everything. So I'd rather just make something on my own. That's why, you know, movies are expensive. It turns out. What did that cost me? Fourth of July. I don't know what comedy is. Movies are expensive, it turns out. What did that cost me, Fourth of July?

Starting point is 02:59:46 I don't know exactly. I think he's afraid to tell me because he just made a movie about my life. But I think around $2.5 million, something like that, which is very cheap for a movie. But yeah, it's also awkward because it was like – so I got paid his money, which is also funny because I had a manager and a lawyer. They're like, I think we could get more money. And I'm like, it's his money. It's like I can't just be like, could you give me more money while you're making my movie? Right from your pocket.

Starting point is 03:00:13 Just put it in my pocket. I was like, this is crazy that he's giving any amount of money. How did that come about? He just like took an interest in your story? Well, we became good buddies. We always talked movies. And we just, that's what we always

Starting point is 03:00:26 are talking about is movies. And I would always be like, we should write, because I've always wanted to write movies, but I need somebody else to have,

Starting point is 03:00:32 I can't think of the word again, responsibility. Yeah. Accountability is the word. The museum of accountability. So I was like, we were talking and then I was like,

Starting point is 03:00:42 we should write a movie and then we just kind of, it was kind of random. It was like Super Bowl Sunday that year. We were just kind of bullshitting on the phone and I was like we were talking and then I was like we should write a movie and then we just kind of it was kind of random it was like Super Bowl Sunday that year we were just kind of bullshitting on the phone and I was like we should write a movie

Starting point is 03:00:50 I'm always saying it let's make because partly because you know I think he's a brilliant writer and filmmaker but you're also like

Starting point is 03:00:56 you could do this you could it's not like pitching a movie you got the cachet yeah we can do it and we just started

Starting point is 03:01:03 bullshitting about an idea and a story. And then he was talking about kind of a couple late in life and whatever. And then I kind of jotted down this idea because I go to therapy. My therapist is always like, you got to tell your parents they did a shitty job at this and that. And I always laugh because I'm like, so I'm just going to walk in and tell these people you suck. And then I was like, what is that gonna look like and that kind of became the the c yeah an interesting thing and and it was funny because i thought

Starting point is 03:01:29 the interesting thing was the parents and he thought the interesting thing was me which is funny because he at the time he was a parent and i was somebody's kid obviously yeah somebody's kid also kind of flips so that kind of became the idea and then we just were rolling with it and then he was like if we finish writing this, we'll make it. And so then every day I was like, we writing today? What do you think? And so we did, and he kind of kept his word and made it. How long did that process take?

Starting point is 03:01:54 Not long. We really zoomed through it. February we conceived of the idea, and we wrapped in September, which is like insane. The whole movie? We're writing. Yeah. Holy shit.

Starting point is 03:02:04 We wrote it in about maybe two months or something like that, and then scheduled it, and we shot it in like 15 days. You shot it where, in New Hampshire, Vermont? No, we shot it five days in the city, and then we shot it in Lake George in New York, as it was supposed to be Maine. It goes to show, though, that you can get shit done. You know what I mean? If there's not the bureaucratic bullshit and yeah producers and red tape and all that and like sometimes like you

Starting point is 03:02:31 said maybe you do need a more of an editor you do need more of a this or that and that would add a couple months on but if you have the right people who can self-fund and are motivated and have the time like yeah that shit is bullshit you know yeah no and have the time like the rest of that shit is bullshit you know yeah no it's the best the rest of that time is not necessary

Starting point is 03:02:49 and that's what makes it such a great time for comedy and all business is that you can just set up we're not shooting on film so it's cheaper

Starting point is 03:02:55 you can get a camera for whatever a thousand bucks two thousand bucks I have no idea what cameras cost four thousand bucks bro give it a couple years

Starting point is 03:03:01 I feel like you could do a movie on like an iPhone yeah people do they say they do but then like Olivia Rodrigo did like you could do a movie on an iPhone. Yeah, people do. They say they do. But then it's like Olivia Rodrigo did one of her music videos on it. But then it's like, we shot on an iPhone. But you spent $100,000 on lighting.

Starting point is 03:03:16 Well, it's all about lenses and lighting. The iPhone commercials are all bullshit because they'll have a $70,000 lens on top of it. It's like, yeah. No fucking kidding. Right, right. But not doing film is great. Like I made a documentary about my buddy and it cost like $30,000,

Starting point is 03:03:30 but it was kind of, the idea was kind of taken from these Scorsese documentaries, American Boy and Italian American. I don't know if you ever saw them. They're interesting. It's like him talking to his parents, but they shot on film.

Starting point is 03:03:39 The budget is like $300,000 because you've got to buy fucking film. Film, yeah. And then it's like, and then you don't get it. You're like you're like ah it didn't work i've done a little bit of acting i did one movie a guy's student an myu student film and as soon as i click it on you literally hear film burning sorry about that and you're just, you're fucking them over. That's so crazy.

Starting point is 03:04:06 I never thought of that. Yeah, it's like scary. Every time, it's bloopers. It's like, no, fuck you. It's like, you're listening to money just tick off. So digital is wonderful. Yeah. But yeah, no, it's a great time with podcasts and everything. And you can just make money.

Starting point is 03:04:21 It goes straight to consumers. Right. Delightful. You have an insane amount of interest, huh? You're such a fashion sports fan. with podcasts and everything, and you can just make money. It goes straight to consumers. Right. Delightful. You have an insane amount of interest, huh? You're such a fashion sports fan, obviously film, obviously comedy, but you have like Joe List photography. Yeah.

Starting point is 03:04:33 Oh, thanks. You got like hobbies and interests and shit. Yeah. It's too much. I wish I could vote. My manager was like, you should focus on a thing. I'm like, I can't. No. I'm sure your manager loves the photography.

Starting point is 03:04:45 Yeah. I know. Stop taking pictures and write a fucking book dude i said that to norman he's like i'm starting a photography page like that'll be big and i'm like well it's fun i'm like i'd like to be an artist i always kind of like not regret that but like part of me sometimes is like i wish i could just use social media in the way everyone else does. We're like, I took this picture. I think it's kind of cool. Right. Like I don't really do that. I'm not that I am like really a picture taker or anything like that.

Starting point is 03:05:11 But like, you know, sometimes I'm like I'd like to just have a regular Instagram account. I don't want to build that either. Well, this is the thing about podcasts because I have such a love-hate relationship with podcasts because I make really good money. I make fucking doctor money podcasting but i'm like this isn't art yeah it's like norman and i are sitting i'm like would you eat your dad's come like i'm like trust me brother yeah this is like this is so dumb but then people love it and come but there is something i find something it's not it's definitely not art but there is something about like it works for a reason.

Starting point is 03:05:46 It's the will of the people. Right. You know what I mean? I mean people are dumb and so low-hanging fruit and least common denominator works. But like there is something very – you put it out there and this one bombs and this one doesn't bomb and people like this person and not that person and it's very meritocracy in a way. Now we're probably getting past that where it's not. Now it's like if you're a celebrity, you get handed a podcast, you're going to be big, you're going to make money.

Starting point is 03:06:11 But in the beginning, it was kind of like you're either funny and good at this or you're not. Yeah, no, and it's fun. And now podcasts are a big reason. It's the only way I see friends a lot of times because we're so busy. We're on the road and you have kids. So like for me, I've been doing Tuesdays with Stories with Mark for over 10 years, and now it's like we're guaranteed to hang out two hours a week. Yeah, it is pretty cool.

Starting point is 03:06:26 Which is great. And we usually catch up before. If we – if like Barstool ever like, I don't know, ended. Don't say that. I'd probably talk to John like once a year. Yeah. Like we'd be like, how you doing, man? Good.

Starting point is 03:06:36 Cool. You want to get a beer? Maybe. I don't know. And now we talk like hours and hours and hours and hours and hours and hours a week. I saw one of my buddies in Denver recently. And I hadn't seen him probably in six months eight months or whatever and we like talked for like two hours when we first saw each other and i was like damn this would be a great podcast i'm like yeah that's right you're talking to your friends right now you have that thought of like

Starting point is 03:06:57 well this this that wasn't bad should we record it hit record yeah and that is tricky too because like with patreon and all that stuff you're like like – when you do get together, you're like, should we record this? People will pay to hear it. It's so narcissistic. I know. Doesn't everyone need to hear this? It's awful. Because I feel like with comics, you guys are like inherently friends where – like I have my friends and then I have work.

Starting point is 03:07:20 And I definitely – like I say, my friends are like hilarious. And we could do that, record it. But I – nobody else is a professional. So it's like it's not even a thought. But if you are a comic and you are all in the business, it's like, well, we could just do this for fun or find a way to like make money out of doing this. Let's just record everything we always do because somebody will probably watch it. Right. It feels very silly to not hang out and have the fun that we would have anyways and not

Starting point is 03:07:48 get paid for it. Do something with it. Yeah. And people – I have to remind myself, it's a service to the people. It's not like the people are just like, I'll watch this because it will make them money. People are like, I love it. You like it. Every week, I turn it on.

Starting point is 03:08:00 I have so many people that are like, I was going to kill myself, but you put out a podcast. Isn't that crazy? It's unbelievable. The amount of people who we've saved their lives. Like, bro, I'm a hero. I have so many people that are like I was going to kill myself but you put out a podcast isn't that crazy it's unbelievable the amount of people who we've saved their lives like bro I'm a hero I don't know

Starting point is 03:08:08 we really are more than any first responder I was going to say first responders have like a couple calls a year I'm doing this weekly okay bro so send me five bucks a month

Starting point is 03:08:18 and I will save your life I have a child and you're at town hall on the 9th town hall November 9th and then when are you at the Wilbur Patriots Day weekend I think Hall on the 9th of November. Town Hall, November 9th. And then when are you at the Wilbur? Patriot's Day weekend.

Starting point is 03:08:28 I think it's the 19th. I keep looking at you. I'm like, will you be my dad? I think it's April 19th. I'm always there on Patriot's Day. Dude, Joe List in the city of Boston on Patriot's Day at the Wilbur is, you know, the most Boston thing maybe to ever happen. Let me make sure it's the 19th. But yeah, the 19th. But yeah, the 19th.

Starting point is 03:08:46 So yeah, that's Wilbur Theater. And then November 9th, Town Hall, for the love of Christ. I know I hate the Yankees and I'm decked out, but Mets fans, come to Town Hall November 9th. It's fucking half. And we were talking about it off air. I've sold 700 tickets, which to me, I'm from Whitman, Massachusetts.

Starting point is 03:09:04 I'm a piece of shit. I hate myself. But 700 tickets in New York City, I'm from Whitman, Massachusetts. I'm a piece of shit. I hate myself. But 700 tickets in New York City, I'm like, that's crazy. But they're like, guys, it seats 1,400. You're failing. I'm like, fuck. You get a 50%. You're failing at your job.

Starting point is 03:09:18 Selling tickets to me was the worst part of any of the job that we've done so far. I hated. I feel like I'm begging people. I know. And then you got to do, even when you think you're doing it too much, you got to promote even more. And then when you do sell out,

Starting point is 03:09:36 someone convinces you to put on a second show. Right. And you stress about that one. And it's just the worst. Well, and you feel like you're so self-conscious that you're like, God, I keep promoting this and Instagram and all this shit. I keep saying it. And then you do the show and people are like, like hey when are you coming to new york i know

Starting point is 03:09:47 what that is crazy how could i possibly promoted this more because but you think about it it's just like you know however many thousands followers you have like one percent of them are seeing your post at any time so you just got to keep hammering it and the diehards who do see it every time they just have to deal with it because you're the diehard band. Like, that's not the deal. But the amount of people who don't know, it's like, fuck. No, I have it now all the time. I'm like, every time I'm in town, I get recognized in the street.

Starting point is 03:10:14 People are, like, shaking. They're like, oh, my God, dude, I love you. And I'm like, you coming to the shows? They're like, I didn't know they had shows. I'm like, what? They're like, well, calm down. You still can. Yeah, they're like, oh, I'm working.

Starting point is 03:10:24 I know, I know. I had such a bad one the other day. I was in Royal Oak, Michigan. I went to CVS, and the guy was like a big fan, and he was working. And I was like, well, you got to come to the show. I'm like, the show tonight, Friday, Saturday. And he's like, I'm working every night. And I was like, oh, that sucks.

Starting point is 03:10:37 And he's like, it does. And I felt so bad that I was like, oh, I just told this guy his life sucks. He sucks. I was like, oh, sorry. I don't mean like, but Jesus. Come to my silly little show, please. Your life stinks, dude. I was like, oh, I just told this guy his life sucks. I was like, oh, sorry. I don't mean like... Come to my silly little show, please. Your life stinks, dude. Goodbye. That's basically what happened. You should travel for a living

Starting point is 03:10:52 joking around. Are you crazy? You talk about the guy shaking and stuff like that. It reminded me of one of my favorites of yours. And we deal with it all the time, too. We have this woman being like, my autistic boyfriend's a big time. Yeah, no. All the time so we have like this woman being like my autistic boyfriend yeah no it's all the time it's like yeah they're like she's like i don't get it but he and the guy's like literally too nervous to come over and i'm like if you knew

Starting point is 03:11:16 how little self-esteem i had you know you're just crushing yeah sir i have a photography instagram account just come take a picture i'm like I'm like, I'm more nervous than you are. Dude, we did the Wilbur probably like a year, two years ago now. And I think we made our biggest mistake of any live event we ever did. Is that the March Madness one? Yeah. No, no. Yes.

Starting point is 03:11:39 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it was St. Patrick's Day. The show was on St. Patrick's Day. March Madness. And we were like, it would be a great thing, a cool thing to do, like St. Patrick's Day in Boston. Let's have a bagpipe player open. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, my God.

Starting point is 03:11:53 So – No, this is literally – Joe, this is literally the worst idea in the history of entertainment. So we were like – we never really landed on what we were going to do with openers because sometimes we'd have comedians and the crowd was like, oh, we're doing a comedy. We're doing a podcast show. It wouldn't be great for the comic. We had Sam Talent do Denver and he was like, it's not really the best idea or whatever. And so we're like, all right. So for opening in Boston, St. Patrick's Day, we'll get a bagpiper.

Starting point is 03:12:22 And we had this girl come in. She's big on TikTok from Maine, Iine i think or somewhere one of those states and she starts bagpiping and we were like yeah dude this is sick but then we realized she's gonna do it for a half hour and so it's just a half hour of this woman standing on stage bagpiping it's not like a cop we started the comedy podcast show with a cop's funeral bro bro think about any time. Anytime you do hear bagpipes, it's a funeral. And it's for like a couple minutes. Yeah. Maximum.

Starting point is 03:12:49 Right. 30 minutes of bagpiping is – you cannot even fathom how bad it is. And she tried to do like – she was taking like requests from like the people who were trickling in early. Like I heard her like she was playing like the Game of Thrones theme song and she was playing like rap songs, like trying to make it like a thing. We literally went in the green room and we just closed the door and we're like – That's so fucking funny. That's amazing. We played our own music.

Starting point is 03:13:15 It's almost like a prank. Yeah. It's like somebody was like, look at you, an opener. And then we did. We did two shows that night. So after the first show, we're talking. We're like, someone's got to tell her. Someone's got to tell her we're not doing the second show.

Starting point is 03:13:26 And then we're both such pussies. We just sent her out to the second show again. That's the best. It did make for great material. It was like, hey, how about those bagpipers? The whole audience was like, what the fuck is that? Oh, that's classic. You never know what we're doing, man.

Starting point is 03:13:39 You never know what we're doing. So anyway, get the tickets November 9th at Town Hall, April 19th at the Wilbur. And fuck the Yankees, right? Yeah, absolutely. And sorry. But no, but also come, Yankee fans. I love you. Cheer.

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