KFC Radio - Quickie: Drake, Pusha T, Bryan Colangelo & Phila1234567 feat. Rone

Episode Date: May 30, 2018

KFC and Feits call upon Rone to break down one of the wildest Internet days in recent memory. Battle rap and Burners.  You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. ...Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/kfcr

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey KFC Radio listeners, you can find every episode of KFC Radio on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. It's a Wednesday quickie here on KFC Radio. An important quickie, because shit popped off last night on Twitter. I mean, it went down. Usually we'd have this thing ready to go, but we pressed pause, we decided we gotta record the next day so that we could recap everything that went on during this extravaganza.
Starting point is 00:00:28 And no better person to bring in for this quickie, literally no better person on the planet Earth to discuss these topics than your boy Roan. I might not be the biggest Sixers person in the entire universe. I might not be the biggest battle rap
Starting point is 00:00:44 guy in the entire universe, but when those two things collide, I'm the biggest Sixers person in the entire universe. I might not be the biggest battle rap guy in the entire universe. You're pretty close on that one. But when those two things collide, I'm the only person who is at the epicenter. I have a foot in both of them, so I'm very prepared to talk about it. You should be getting calls to CNN and Joe Good Morning America. You are the expert right now. By the way, the day was crazy before those two. We're not going to talk about that one much because who gives a fuck,
Starting point is 00:01:06 but I had no idea that that many people watched Roseanne. It was the only thing on Twitter all day yesterday. It was a big deal, man. Until this stuff happened. Well, Roseanne, the original series was a big fucking deal. It's like a revolutionary TV show, and they just tried to run it back again. I actually went over and looked at her Twitter yesterday afternoon just because everyone was talking about it so much.
Starting point is 00:01:26 And I'm scrolling through her Twitter for a good amount of time just reading tweets being like, this lady's crazy. This is nuts. And after like 40 minutes of scrolling, it says three hours ago. I was like, wait, I thought that had been a week of tweets. This just happened? It's 9 a.m. in LA. What is this bitch setting an alarm clock at 6 a.m.? Time to be fucking nuts.
Starting point is 00:01:46 It was a full-blown meltdown, dude. She was not fucking around. But I feel like Roseanne... It got buried. That feels like a year ago. Pales in comparison to the two stories we're talking about today. So, obviously, the reason, like we said, Sixers and Rowan. Sixers and rap.
Starting point is 00:02:01 We got the Drake and Pusha T battle rap going to a whole new level with shit getting real personal all while when Pusha T dropped the story of Adidon. All while that's going on Brian Colangelo, Sixers GM is outed as the biggest internet troll in the
Starting point is 00:02:19 world. Having like five or six burner accounts that he used to talk shit about his players, to talk shit about his players to talk shit about the fans talk shit about sam hinky prop himself up i mean that it's one of the biggest scumbag internet stories ever and so we got ronan here now it's a coin flip as far as as far as which story dropped like the same exact same exact time it was such an exciting night i actually i was so consumed by dra and Pusha T, I didn't even realize what was going on with Colangelo.
Starting point is 00:02:49 I saw some tweets. I was like, I don't know, something's going on with the Sixers. I saw it. I saw it. I actually think I saw the Colangelo tweets before I saw Pusha T, but I saw, like, this is insane. And I opened the story, and I saw how long it was. I was like, not crazy. Not doing it, man. Not crazy. I opened the story, and I saw how long it was. I was like, not doing it.
Starting point is 00:03:06 Not crazy. I need the cliff notes. So I guess we can start with Colangelo because it's almost still going on. And even this morning, I'm just seeing that Colangelo is still denying this to everybody. He's calling everybody who he fake tweeted about and everybody who he insulted over just months and months and months and he's telling them that it wasn't him. He's still just saying it wasn't me.
Starting point is 00:03:32 Shout out to Shaggy. It wasn't me. Bro, we caught you. It's one thing to be, to have burner accounts. Listen, in our world, in the internet world, we take it very seriously, probably more than others, but having a burner account is like, you have have burner accounts listen in our world in the internet world we take it very seriously probably more than others but like having a burner account is like you have no honor you have no integrity
Starting point is 00:03:49 it's the lowest of low i've i'll never understand the burner account game and i i know some people at barstool have them many and many people they have is this true oh yeah oh yeah for years bro uh i don't know about twitter everybody knows uh Franny Lydon, the Hank story. But it goes much deeper than that. For years now, there have been people with commenter names and, I'm sure, Twitters. And you guys just know this from scuttlebutt inside the office. It's just like you've heard. Listen, these walls whisper, bro.
Starting point is 00:04:21 We've been in this game for 10 years. You pick some things up along the way. But the risk just doesn't outweigh the reward. It seems like a fruitless labor to me to have it because the best case scenario of things that happen when you have a burner account is you say, hey, I think Feidelberg's pretty good. And someone goes, shut the fuck up, pussy.
Starting point is 00:04:42 That's the best case scenario. Worst case scenario worst case scenario is you get outed and your career falls apart yeah like like let's let's i'll even throw you a bone let's say best case scenario is you sway a couple people's opinions maybe they do think vitalberg is all right now what you can reach like a handful of people maximum we know it's like 0.1 percent of people who like who are already mixing it up in that world, and then the people who you're going to be able to convert are even smaller. He has maybe 17 followers on these accounts. It's like follows 70 people, has 17 followers.
Starting point is 00:05:13 That's why I think the psychology of it is actually pretty fascinating where it's like this is a compulsion. This dude was so insecure and so – I mean particularly him too because everyone was always talking about Henke. We were like Colangelo. It was all about the process that Henke started. So this dude psychologically, physiologically couldn't handle that to the point that he needed to take proactive steps to make five accounts and just tweet random assholes. I mean the perfect example of it was the collar. When the dude, somebody on Twitter was chirping him about his collar and he felt the need to respond and say,
Starting point is 00:05:49 this is a perfectly normal collar. Move on. Get a new angle. This dude could not take that his collar was being chirped. Which is funny because I do think those things, sometimes it's like the littlest thing that gets you. You could say that my blog or my podcast is not funny
Starting point is 00:06:05 But you say something like really bizarre About like my house Be like oh that rug is ugly Like that was a perfectly fine rug Fuck you guys I love that rug Shut up I paid a lot for that rug
Starting point is 00:06:13 It's a French collar Yeah so that But do you think that he's going right away Or do you think that like throughout the day He builds up inequities that he felt against him And then just like unleashes it on the toilet home gets a glass or two of whiskey to be honest like it's probably like you get a couple in you and all of a sudden you just start letting it fly because that shit does build up for like
Starting point is 00:06:35 as people who live like in the media spotlight in a sense you know that shit will it weighs on you it'll build up for sure like ebbs and flows for me. I'll have times, period of times where I just ignore all feedback. They're not bothering me. I'm able to laugh it off. I'll even chime in, like make a fun of myself. And then there are times where you go for like a month where I'm just like responding to people and trying to fight back. But I'm doing it under my name. So it's just like you see it happen.
Starting point is 00:07:02 You know what it is. When you try to hide it and you do it five times over and you say some of the shit he said. It's so crazy how self-congratulatory and how deviant he was about it. In so many of them, it was like, yeah, like Colangelo is just silently dealing with everyone ripping him the entire time while he's like saying it. Or like Markel Fultz is like, you really can't trust anyone. And he's like, why would you markel foltz is like you really can't trust anyone and he's like why would you think that like from a burner account it's proven so deeply that like markel foltz is right and you can't fucking trust anyone and he's further compounding markel foltz's 19 year old insecurities while blowing up his own stupid little fucking mind it's so insane he attacked hinky being like yo how's teaching how's being a professor at
Starting point is 00:07:46 stanford how about the guy he i think i think one thing that is like that doesn't normalize this but i think one thing that's like important to understand is like we've grown up in the internet era and we like understand how it affects you but i feel like older people when they come in they don't get it they like they don't get it but also like they can't like we like i can just sit here and say like look sometimes shit gets to me but like old i feel like older guys who've been in sports like you have to be like yo nothing ever bothers me so you have to do it on the low you have the only thing i'll say about like not getting the internet if you're able if you know what you're doing to the point that you can make five burner accounts on twitter and you're responding to tweets and shit you're pretty savvy with the
Starting point is 00:08:23 with the social but savvy you can be savvy with the social media. But you can be savvy with the social media without understanding the psychological impacts of it. Right, that's true. I'm just thinking about like trying, Riggs had to explain what burner accounts were to cousin Mike and cousin Murray, and Smitty was like, yeah, trying to explain this one to my dad is tough.
Starting point is 00:08:39 I'm thinking about all the Sixers dads out there who are like, wait, what the fuck is going on here? Because the old folks really, they don't get the psychology behind it. But they also don't get how deep it goes. I'm sure the cousins are starting to understand it now. But when you finally get that wave wash over you of what social media really is, and you're like, my dad has no idea about anything. But if you're a celebrity and you get social media, and again, you're older, and you're like, holy shit, all these fucking people are talking about me? Right.
Starting point is 00:09:10 It's like you can just hear all the whispers that we've all had for our whole lives, but you can just never see them. But some people talk shit about you behind closed doors because they're polite about it. Because they're adults. Yeah. These people are fucking right in your face with it. Yeah. These people are fucking right in your face with it. Yeah, and I think that we don't even know how deep this goes because we found out about the Twitter stuff. But they also, even last night as it was coming out, there were these really long comments on the articles about it that are traceable back to a Brian Colangelo fucking email address. He is an internet commenter on SB Nation, The Ringer,
Starting point is 00:09:46 all of these sites. He is an internet commenter on forums. It is so deep. He can't stop himself. He really can't. You said sometimes it'll really get to you and there's an ebb and a flow. For him, it's all flow. It's at all times. He is just
Starting point is 00:10:01 inundated with the need to feel like he has to defend himself while congratulating himself for being so stoic about accepting people's criticism. It's so insane. He's the worst troll of all time. He is the worst, highest profile troll ever. You think so? Who else is that big of a troll? Especially on –
Starting point is 00:10:20 Kevin Durant would be the other – But Durant had one instance and a burner account, five different ones over all this time. And how about the patience and the temperance of the person who found this out to slow play it? As soon as I heard it, I would probably blow it the fuck out and tell everyone. But the fact that he let him kind of sink himself and gave him the rope to hang himself with, it was masterful. I love that they waited to publish it yesterday too. That's like some Simmons editor-in-chief shit where he saw a tweet about it where it was like, oh, LeBron?
Starting point is 00:10:54 Philly's favorites get LeBron? Yeah, we'll fix that real quick. Let's get that Colangelo story out there. I mean, this is a problem for your franchise, bro. It really is. That tweet about Embiid, like, actually, how about this? He's not the franchise cornerstone. Let's exploit this guy.
Starting point is 00:11:09 What? Absolutely. He calls him, like, a fool. He, like, makes fun of him for having his shirt off. He says that his girlfriend is in New York, so she's probably cheating on him. It is the most diabolical fucking shit. Wow. It is so deep and so psychological.
Starting point is 00:11:26 I don't understand how they haven't cut the head off of this fucking snake already. Well, I think they probably just need, like, a little bit more proof since this is a dicey world of, like, it wasn't me. As soon as they can somewhat prove something, they better. They reverse traced all the phone numbers going back to they all have a similar phone number that ends in a 9-1. I saw that guy too tweeted that, but like, is that once you can prove that 9-1 number is him, then you're good. A Philly reporter
Starting point is 00:11:54 did quote tweet that and say those numbers line up with the number I have. But it's just 9-1. Like, I'm just saying, of course we know logically, yes, this is him. Wait a second, my phone number does end in a 9-1? See, Brian Kalanch we know logically, yes, this is him. Wait a second. My phone number does end in a 911. See? Brian Kalanchoe is going to be like, it was wrong.
Starting point is 00:12:08 As soon as you can prove it for real, it better be a wrap for this guy because there is no way any player can trust this dude ever again. I don't get him tweeting right in, he was like friends with a Philly reporter or whatever like through this account. It was just like a blog kid, not someone with actual access. And multiple times, he was like, it's too bad you're too old to date.
Starting point is 00:12:31 Well, my daughter's too old to date you or something like that. It's like, bro, why do you want your daughter to fuck this blogger? So, dude, this is like, that's what I'm saying, tip of the iceberg.
Starting point is 00:12:39 It would not surprise me if he's doing other weird shit on the internet. Oh, there's for sure other stuff that popped up on there. Just follow who he follows and there is a web of Colangelo lies. This guy has turned out to be from just like kind of a creepy, like, milquetoast dude to being the most fucked up person of all time.
Starting point is 00:12:57 And all coming off the heels of Hinky, who is like the most beloved guy in the world. Like, what did hinky do he must have fucked somebody he wants to fuck somebody's daughter or something to be ousted for this fucking scumbag what did what did hinky do before he got fired because i'll tell you what i don't i don't understand basketball too much i don't understand the philly love for hinky he's not the first guy to ever tank that's what his process was right that's what the process is just tank right and he won a bunch of trades.
Starting point is 00:13:25 It was very long run, like we're going to make this thing good in the long run and not really care about now while building up assets and giving them hope so we're not just like a middling team. I mean, you understand what tanking is, but he just did a really good job of it and was transparent about it. People didn't like that he was transparent, and so they're like, oh, oh he's not trying to win and that really pissed off the old guard of media the same people who feel like they have to be like tough guys on the internet or act like nothing bothers them it was almost the same class as like colangelo so they brought in colangelo to
Starting point is 00:13:58 replace him and kind of be like the new order and like we're gonna run things right and just be a regular franchise and i guess he could just never handle the criticism that people thought sam hanky was smarter than him that's that's a tough thing like kind of we talked about with like filling in for francesa or like following it like once you have to i can see that really bothering you like like the the guy who had your job before you was still still so much more beloved than you are i mean like literally people photoshopping j to show Sam Hinkie. You guys are making t-shirts about him.
Starting point is 00:14:29 He responded to one of the things that said, someone said, like, Hinkie died for our sins. And the Colangelo response under the Burner account was, not my sins, Jesus died for my sins. No, bro, that's a fucking joke. No, I don't like jokes. I like Jesus. Speaking of jokes, Embiid is handling it very well. He's been very funny on Twitter and Instagram,
Starting point is 00:14:52 coming up with his own little jabs. I love he tweeted, at Drake, I'm upset. Right. Little things like that that were just very funny. I mean, I'm sure he's absolutely furious, but publicly he's handling it in a very funny manner. And saying, I don't believe it.
Starting point is 00:15:06 Like, he's showing the loyalty that, like, he's not just going to turn on someone because of some allegations right away. But at the same time, he says, like, if this comes out to be true, it's crazy. Like, it's crazy. Setting himself up to be like, I kind of know this is true, but he's being smart enough to not be disloyal. And Ben Simmons strikes me as the kind of guy who's, like, not okay with this either. I don't think he's been vocal on Twitter. Oh, yeah, by the way, he's dating Chris Chetanel. Right, Kendall Jenner.
Starting point is 00:15:29 Buried yesterday in the news. That's also not good. Things are not good for the Sixers right now. No, not at all. You went from winning, like, 22 in a row to being like, here we fucking go. You win your first round. Like, the process is coming together. You get snuffed out.
Starting point is 00:15:44 Your GM is a fucking troll. And now you got the Kardashian curse on you all in a matter of like a month. Not good. All in a matter of hours. It was like he broke up with like Tinashe last week or whatever at first. And he said that she was doing Kardashian shit was like the reasoning for it. And then within a week he's – and he kind of looked like – was kind of similar to Blake Griffin early on. Blake Griffin moves on and then suddenly he scuttles in there.
Starting point is 00:16:07 Yo, I can maybe see the logic where it's like, you know what? All girls are crazy. They're all going to do Kardashian shit, so I'm going to go get a real one. Might as well get the real thing. They'll have that Kardashian money. They're going to do Kardashian shit. That's what I'm saying. She's also the least crazy of that family.
Starting point is 00:16:23 But at the same time, it's like being the fucking least crazy person in the asylum. Right. All right. The other big news of the night. It's been going on. Well, it's been going on for years. But the latest installment of this beef has been going on for a little while now. Pusha T drops his response to Drake.
Starting point is 00:16:41 The story of Adidon. And the internet's going bananas for it. So to catch you up to speed, if you're not up with the rattlebap, rap battle scene, Pusha T put out his album last week. He has a song, Infrared, where he mentions how Drake doesn't write his own raps,
Starting point is 00:17:00 how he mentions how Birdman is kind of screwing over Wayne and Drake with their record deal. Drake then puts out the Duppy Freestyle. Yep. Duppy Freestyle, where we'll get into it, but I think Drake hits on several points on his raps, basically saying, like, you know, if you have a problem with someone writing for me, what do you think about Kanye when I wrote on his album? Talking about how, you know, you have this whole reputation as a drug dealer when, like, you ain't really all you're cracked up to be.
Starting point is 00:17:28 You're an approachable dude. Malice, your brother, is actually the tough guy. You're not even, you know. You're like living his story almost. You're fifth best on your label. Really going in on Pusha's career and persona now pusher comes back last night with uh some deep personal shit outing drake for having a child that he's allegedly i i i would be a wild thing if this was just like not true but like it is one of those things where it's like like this has been in the news yp is very
Starting point is 00:17:59 you know big time drake stan yeah that so he was alerting us to the fact that this wasn't the news last year that this woman accused him of having a kid. And Drake said – he's like, yeah, I take paternity tests all the time for kids that I don't have. I was like, yeah, I took one for her. It's not my kid. Blah, blah, blah. So if Drake's already addressed it – but I also don't think it matters. I think just – I think the internet already believes it, so that's all that matters.
Starting point is 00:18:22 That's the angle right now. He's a deadbeat dad. His father was a deadbeat dad. And then the album artwork, I think, is the biggest problem of all for Drake. It's this picture of Drake in full-blown blackface, minstrel blackface. So first of all, blackface is not the N-word, apparently. In what way? Like a black person can't do it.
Starting point is 00:18:41 No, I think blackface is off the limit for everybody. Yeah. That's a big distinction. You can't conversation it? No, I think blackface is off the limit, off for everybody. Yeah. Yeah. That's a big distinction. You can't conversationally throw on blackface. Yeah. You know, hey, we can say the N-word. You can't.
Starting point is 00:18:51 Nobody can do blackface. There's no, like, slang version of blackface. No. So it's like very, like, you can't, like, drop the R. Even if there was a slang version of blackface, Drake was not in it. No. He was. That was full-blown real with the red lips and the black face.
Starting point is 00:19:07 I know where I stand on this matter. I'm interested in your thoughts. We'll break it all down. What do you score the battle at right now? It's interesting because of how you want to look at it. If you want to look at it just from a technical
Starting point is 00:19:21 rapping standpoint or the way that drake did it was more artful the way that push a t did it was way more blunt it was way more like shocking and like it was way more just exposing like oh my god jaws dropped after that and whether it's true or not that's definitely something in battle rap like personals and fake personals but it's also what can you get the crowd to believe? You know, someone in a battle rap against me had a really convincing round that I got fucked by Jerry Sandusky and the whole crowd was believing it.
Starting point is 00:19:54 And it's not like I can be like, oh, no, like didn't actually happen. Excuse me, sir. Yeah. Toothpaste back of the tube. It's like, no, that stuff has been said and everybody's reacting to it. And like there was enough of a shred of truth to make this shit look plausible so I mean you don't have to live with it
Starting point is 00:20:09 you sound a lot like a person who got fucked by Jerry Sandusky where Drake is fucked here is that yes Pusha went really personal but even if Drake like comes back really personal we don't give a fuck about
Starting point is 00:20:25 pusha t's personal life yeah that is true and that's where he's almost at a disadvantage from being the mega star that he is exactly like at the end of the day the higher you are the further you can fall the further you can be knocked down like pusha in the in the rap community like tons of street cred but we don't care about his dating history nobody but here's my thing i don't care about anybody's dating dating history like pusha went super personal i don't care about his dating history. But here's my thing. I don't care about anybody's dating history. Like, Pusher went super personal. I don't care. Like, who fucking cares that Drake's parents had a bad marriage?
Starting point is 00:20:54 Who fucking cares that Drake has a baby that he doesn't take care of? Like, to me. I think Drake does. And so that's fine. That's fair. If you're telling me that, like, you know, this is getting under Drake's skin. But for the crowd out there who is like, oh, shit. Like, I guess it just depends on what you, like, kind of value in a battle rap, I guess I'll say.
Starting point is 00:21:14 Like, I think that Drake, and he did this with Meek Mill, too. When Drake comes at you with, like, very, like, calm, truthful jabs about your career, I think that's way more insulting and way more interesting as a listener than like – this is like Wendy Williams gossip. This is like, ooh, Drake has a baby with a girl that he can keep a secret. Like to me that's very like you're a chick. You're basically sitting around gossiping about Drake whereas Drake is like, yo – Is that a world tour or is that your girl's tour? That to me is like, yo, your girlfriend is a bigger and more successful rapper than you. Dead.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Like Pusha, you're – I mean everything – the only thing Pusha's ever rapped about is being this massive drug dealer and this tough guy. Yo, that's not you. That's your brother. You're fucking riding his story. To me, that's a much, like, more serious jab than gossiping about someone's personal life. But that doesn't seem to be the vibe amongst people. Yeah, some people. A lot of the battle rap community kind of is on your side, though. someone's personal life yeah that doesn't seem to be the vibe amongst people uh yes some people a
Starting point is 00:22:05 lot of the battle rap community kind of is on your side though it's like that he could have had better lines about these things it's like if you have something cool like a really exposing moment it's cool to put that out there but then it's way better to have like a line based on that or like some clever piece of wordplay based on it instead of just like dumping it out there. I mean he literally says like I want to be clear about this and he says it changes his voice. You are hiding a baby. It's like okay I get it but like there wasn't and to me I think you can go
Starting point is 00:22:33 personal and you can sling all the mud you want but I think that has to be like a line in a verse that touches on a lot of other stuff. To me like I would have gone much more at Birdman like getting half of his fucking money. I would have gone much more at birdman like getting half of his fucking money i would have gone much more you know what's the perfect way to put it for me so both both guys went at the other producers right right kanye uh drake goes at kanye basically saying like kanye's
Starting point is 00:22:56 too insecure he let he wouldn't let virgil shine because he knows he's a star right to me that's a very intriguing like thing to say pusher goes your goes, your producer's going to die soon. What? It's like through no fault of Drake's. It's not like Drake's going to kill him. It's like he's been solely poisoning him. Is it that funny or that clever to be like, your producer has multiple sclerosis? It's like, okay.
Starting point is 00:23:17 It's just savage. Super like, you know, I have no problem. The gloves are off in battle rap. All's fair in love, war, and battle rap. But I just don't think it's that clever. I think there's better, smarter, wittier ways to go about what he did. And if you had a secret baby was one piece of everything else, now we're cooking. But to me, it's just like that's all he has.
Starting point is 00:23:38 Does it bother you that Drake has a baby with a porn star? Not bother you, but if that came out as a little bit. If that came out as news, not in a battle rap, what would your reaction be? That wouldn't phase me in... At all. Is it...
Starting point is 00:23:50 What about the fact that some people are saying, like, this dude used to bang Rihanna and now he's just, like, dumping his load in some porn star? I mean, I think all...
Starting point is 00:23:57 I think rappers are fucking all sorts of chicks. Yeah. I think rappers fuck unknown strippers. I think they fuck celebrities. Like, to me, a rapper being promiscuous and having children out of wedlock is more of a diss to be like,
Starting point is 00:24:09 oh, you didn't fuck any porn stars. You didn't get a porn star. I mean, push is coming from this world of drugs and street life and shit. We're going to be like, oh, I'm assaulting your character because you're not raising the baby properly. Well, I do think Drake's image is of the sensitive, like good guy. So therefore, if you're going to say like you're not taking care of your son, that's something that could. Yeah, I mean, I get that. I'm just surprised by everybody else being like, wow.
Starting point is 00:24:39 Yeah, the impact is undeniable. But it's like, why did it have that impact? But once you see the impact, it's like, OK, what he said really meant a lot to a lot of people, and it's kind of changed. Maybe it hasn't killed Drake's career or anything, but it might have changed other people. I think both rappers are going to stay on the level they're at. Drake's never going anywhere. Yeah, no. I mean, he's pretty much insane.
Starting point is 00:25:03 And when Meek drops that song with Drake, everyone's going to forget about this. Yeah, 100%. But I just think, like, I'm surprised. I know that the fans out there don't actually care as much as they're saying. You just don't. It's just exciting. Don't care that Drake had a baby. It's just hoopla.
Starting point is 00:25:20 It's just like, oh, my gosh, did you see that Drake had a baby? It's something to talk about. That's what I'm saying. It's Wendy Williams. It's tea, bro. It was the social media just like every i mean everyone just kind of everyone just got drunk on like power last night it was like everyone just tweeting about everything so i think i think the fact that it was just such a crazy night also it was fun to just do it like
Starting point is 00:25:38 no one it's not fun to be like what i was doing where it's like actually i think the the second song was pretty good you want to just ride whatever's out at the moment. I also think the timing of everything is important because we've seen, if you go first and second, I think it matters, you know what I mean? Yes. When you're the third, the fourth, it just loses its luster.
Starting point is 00:26:00 But you also can't not respond. You think it's done? I don't think it's done at all. I don't think it's done, but I'm saying that I think it's a dangerous spot. You have to really come correct on this one because otherwise it's like, eh, you tried. I think it's going to be another volley from Drake, and I think throughout – Another response?
Starting point is 00:26:16 And I think there's going to be subliminals on records for like two years to come from Drake. I think that this has hurt him. Remember you had – I was listening to Hot 97 today. They put it best. It was like, you had Ether and Takeover. And then like Super Ugly came out and it was like,
Starting point is 00:26:31 and it almost like hurt him because it was like, that wasn't that good. You got to like bring it again. And I just, Drake gets such a pass for that, by the way, with Charged Up.
Starting point is 00:26:40 Yeah, that song stunk. It was such good. That song blew. He even knew it, like two days later, he was like, all right,
Starting point is 00:26:44 we're going to put it another way. Back back because the first one really stopped back to back was fucking dope yeah that was that's the like that's the one you know that's what it means like everyone's gonna pick their one and if you come out with one that's like kind of and that's how drake can really really win this is if he has like an anthem club song that people just sing all summer because no one's gonna be singing the fucking push a t song or anything like that but if there's like if he puts out his next diss track is an absolute banger that people just sing all summer. Because no one's going to be singing the fucking Pusha T song or anything like that. But if he puts out his next diss track, it's an absolute banger that people can just bump over and over again.
Starting point is 00:27:13 But if you actually listen to it, you know that he's coming at them too. That's a victory. That's also where white kids love to be like, Pusha T is the fucking hardest and the realest in the game. And it's like, I get that. But Drake is able to take it to this level while also selling fucking 50 million records yeah you know and it's like he almost gets like penalized for that in a way but i think a lot of the shit that pusher did try to come at him aside from the kid drake has always owned he's kind of like yeah like that dude wrote hooks for me and like you know i wrote for kanye right like he talks about his
Starting point is 00:27:41 family situation and stuff like that you can't be like you know started from the bottom like when he was doing the video where he made fun of the fact that he's not from the streets when Push is like, your fro wasn't nappy enough. I don't think Drake's ever run around being like, no, I'm black, and that's it. I think he owns all of the shit that he – that is trying to be used against him. I just – I mean, to me, it's like he has one angle here. You have a baby, and I just don't find that to be that impressive. Right. You can understand him not wanting to have his baby. You swayed me a lot on this.
Starting point is 00:28:08 Thank you. I like to do that. What side were you on? I'm a big Drake guy, so I was just like, oh, that was really good. And I was like, I wish that wasn't as good as it is. Because it's the first time someone's hurt Drake. You know what I mean? Meek did not hurt him at all.
Starting point is 00:28:22 Meek kind of tried something, and he got embarrassed and laughed out of his career. He got laughed into jail. This is the first time that there's been any kind of battle rap. Someone came at him, and most of the time, even with Joe Budden, he had beef, and he just wouldn't even respond to him. He just didn't give a fuck. So this is someone he's engaged with that landed a shot on him and it's like oh wow like he's he's not infallible yeah it's rocky getting cut or drago getting cut right again yeah i mean i i get that i'm not gonna say like i mean obviously the people have spoken but i just
Starting point is 00:28:53 think if you if you take a step back from like the you're drunk on fucking twitter last night and just actually look at it no you're right you you've swayed me in that for sure like i i think that uh i don't know what else, I hope Drake does some research and shit here and can come. Right, he needs private eyes now. Yeah, I hope he goes personal. But I hope he continues more with like, I'm going to address you as a rapper.
Starting point is 00:29:15 I'm going to address you and your career and your persona and all that shit. You can keep talking about my baby, but I'm fucking Drake for a reason. And the only thing is that there's only so many things you can say. How many more songs can you make? You can keep talking about my baby, but I'm fucking Drake for a reason. The only thing is that there's only so many things you can say. You know what I mean? It's like, how many more songs can you make?
Starting point is 00:29:33 Last night I was thinking about trying to DM Drake some Pusha T lines. There you go. You think that he might take some? I haven't. I was just like, because I went against some guy named Big T. So it's like maybe my Pusha T and Big T, maybe there's some leftover T stuff, some T. T! Now we're cooking. Now we're cooking.
Starting point is 00:29:50 So as we wrap up here, your opinion right now, is that was story of Adidon better than W Freestyle? Was it better? No. Was it more impactful? Yes. Interesting. That's a good way to put it.
Starting point is 00:30:05 It's like if you – yeah. And that's kind of hedging. The response for sure, it was – So that's kind of riding the fence. But if I had to say, like if it was just a battle rap and those were the first two rounds of the battle rap, I would say after the first round, it's close. But I'd say Pusha T is leading by just a little bit just because of like what we found out. But I don't think it's over. So you think that the personal means more than the truth?
Starting point is 00:30:30 I think just the visceral feel of it afterwards is more shaking to the core. If you watch back, if we watch history, we'll make it look better for Drake. As we look back over time, we'll be like, oh, Drake's was way better. But right now, in the impact of the moment, I think that Pusha T is a little bit ahead on this one. I think that's interesting to me. I said in my blog, I'm coming from a personal point of view,
Starting point is 00:30:55 where it's like, I did it with Rappaport. I was like, yo, you're unintelligent. You can't hang in this game. You're a one-trick pony. You're a race baiter. Black people don't like you. White people don't like you. And Rappaport was like, you cheated on your wife like i get it and everyone was like oh
Starting point is 00:31:07 shit but it's like but i was saying a lot more shit you know what i mean like if i if i came at you right now and i just fucking owned all these little bits about you and you just said like yeah like cheated on your wife i'd be like okay it's like you did like you're right and and if the crowd goes wild for that the crowd goes wild for that, the crowd goes wild for that. But don't you think, you know, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. It hurts more, but the way it looks. And I just wanted to give it to one side just because I didn't want to hedge and be a pussy about it. You know what I'm saying? Like, oh, this part this way, part that way.
Starting point is 00:31:36 So, like, I'll say push a tee by just a little bit right now, but I also don't think it's over. I mean, Drake, I think Drake would let it die except that line about 40. I mean, 40, he's been like, I it die except that line about 40. I mean, 40, he's been like, I don't know what I'm going to do when this guy dies.
Starting point is 00:31:48 Like, he's like, you know, like the most important person in my life and someone's like, just laughing at him.
Starting point is 00:31:54 Just like, ha ha ha ha, you're going to die soon. MS. Like, get him back in the booth. So,
Starting point is 00:31:58 we'll do this again for, well, we'll do this again because we'll definitely have another round of the battle rap and the Sixers
Starting point is 00:32:03 will embarrass themselves at some point. Inevitably. Because, you know, Philly Of the battle rap And the Sixers Will embarrass themselves At some point Inevitably Because you know Philly will always Philly in the end of the day Actually I don't know Things have changed
Starting point is 00:32:10 With Philly With the Super Bowl And whatnot Maybe not Maybe who knows We'll catch you soon You can catch Rowan On Evening Yak
Starting point is 00:32:15 You can catch him On Twitter At underscore Rowan We gotta get you Just at Rowan Someone has that Yeah there's another Rowan who's just
Starting point is 00:32:22 Tweeting Fucking tweeting His dick off Smug This like British guy Who talks about Like tech stuff He's ruining the brand Someone has that? Yeah, there's another Roan who's just tweeting, fucking tweeting his dick off smug. This like British guy who talks about like tech stuff. He's ruining the brand. He really is.
Starting point is 00:32:31 The Roan brand is taking a shot. Maybe just make a battle about him. Make a record about him. All right. We'll catch you guys tomorrow. We're out.

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