KFC Radio - Quickie: Kanye's "Ye" & Song of the Summer

Episode Date: June 4, 2018

We break down the new Kanye West album "Ye" and talk about the 2018 song of the summer. You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can list...en ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/kfcr

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, KFC Radio listeners, you can find every episode of KFC Radio on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Alright, it's KFC Radio Quickie. We're breaking down Kanye's new album. We're talking Drake, we're talking the songs of summer. It's the music edition of KFC Radio here. The Ye album is out. Seven songs. Seven songs is so perfect. Well, of course, Fights Likes It. Just seven songs is perfect.
Starting point is 00:00:27 It better be good, though. I love how... He's seven for seven on this one. But the... It's... I just love the fact that... I remember when I was a kid, I would get mad with a song... An album with less than 18 songs or whatever.
Starting point is 00:00:39 I don't know why I would do that, but I would. And now it's just like, make it shorter, make it shorter. It's kind of how Everything goes with Content now Our brains have just Shrunk and shrunk and shrunk And we're able to consume So much less at a time
Starting point is 00:00:50 And like seven songs I'm okay with Just putting out singles I don't even know If you need to put out an album Just keep putting out songs Whenever you want to drop them But I think if you do an album
Starting point is 00:00:58 I think you need more songs Than seven No I disagree I think this is just Like an EP then It's like I don't know the difference Between any of that stuff
Starting point is 00:01:04 It's shorter and longer But like to. It's like... I don't know the difference between any of that stuff. It's shorter and longer, but to me, it's just like... I don't know. Especially the Pusha T album is 20 minutes total. There's 20 minutes of song. This is probably 25, 26. Yeah. I mean, I put Pusha T on and went for a drive, and it looped back to the first song, and I was like, oh, that's weird.
Starting point is 00:01:21 It must have skipped back to the beginning. No, I just listened to the whole thing. I love that. I want to be able... I listened to Kanye's yeah I love that I like I want to be able like I listened to Kanye album like four times I want to be able to do that
Starting point is 00:01:28 and like it's just but don't you just want like what have you made fucking 12 good songs I think this just makes it more digestible and more easily
Starting point is 00:01:35 more easily appreciated where you can be like you're just an idiot no I'm not an idiot you're just a doofus I just like this music see the thing about with you and Kanye
Starting point is 00:01:43 he could put out 100 songs and you'd say all 100 are good no I mean like he's put out songs the thing about you and Kanye, he could put out a hundred songs and you'd say all a hundred are good. No, I mean, like, he's put out songs I don't like, but this one, like, I like, like, this, I said this needs to be an album because, like, all of the songs kind of, like, have a feel. The theme of, like, the mental disorders and shit like that. Yeah, and just, like, fucked up life stuff and all that. And, like, obviously I like those song topics because obviously those, I relate to them. It resonates, let's say, with Final Burn. So this album,
Starting point is 00:02:07 you're surprised I like it when this album is so clearly an album for me because one, the lyrics, two, the fucking production. For three years,
Starting point is 00:02:14 I've been talking about how Francis and Lights is my favorite producer and puts out some of my favorite music. He produced all these songs. Yeah, he's all over it as a composer.
Starting point is 00:02:21 So no shit, I like the beats, I like the lyrics. That's what I think surprises me is that other all the other music you like is very much like the the commercial like hits no doubt this shit is weird this is weird music i really like the commercial hits and then i also like i like weird music i like emotional music too like i don't really like an in-between like i don't like like just like rock or anything like that or like so like give me a club hit or give me some like
Starting point is 00:02:45 introspective yeah those are like those are the two kind of music and in fact this is what I listen to more than the club hits
Starting point is 00:02:50 like this is what I listen to like walking this is what I listen to yeah well that's because you're emotionally depressed yeah and again like so how does it surprise you
Starting point is 00:02:57 that I love this album well I mean I guess when you think about like the depressed side of you it makes perfect sense the depressed side and the side that loves the production of it
Starting point is 00:03:03 the side that loves for instance the lights like I love the beats and i love just what the stuff's talking yeah i guess i guess i just don't i like i dislike the beats so much that i can't imagine anybody see but you like francis didn't you like yeah but i mean i like a couple songs like i like his bigger bigger i don't even know if he has that big of songs but the songs people tell me to listen to and uh this all these songs to me feel like they're like an interlude intro to a song and the beat's going to drop and then it's just like, oh wait, on to the next song. A lot of these songs, the beat changes drastically throughout it. Yeah, but it never hits for me.
Starting point is 00:03:39 See, here's my problem and this is what I think I've finally learned with music. To me, music is absolutely timeless. So the bar for music is set for me with Kanye West with College Dropout and that era of him. And it's not like I can't really differentiate old and new. It's just like that is what I think Kanye is at his best. And this is so wildly different from that that I just can't even like compare the two. I don't think you should compare the two. Yeah, I mean I guess to me that's what I do.
Starting point is 00:04:15 I'm always like if I'm going to listen – because to me it's like, oh, I can listen to Kanye West right now. Should I listen to his old shit or his new shit? His old stuff to me is always going to be better and because I consider it timeless, it's not like I need – it's not like I say to myself, I need to listen to the new Kanyeye because we are in the year 2018 i'll just go back and listen to his songs from 2010 or whatever it was i think i like interest i think it's interesting to like follow someone's progression of growth and like this is so different that's the problem with kanye to me too though is that i don't like his progression i think he's become an asshole but i i disagree i don't think he's become an asshole at all the i mean like yeah he has outlandish things he says and all that and like i know you like just don't believe he has mental illness or anything
Starting point is 00:04:46 like that yeah um which i think is weird but the i i think it's like like he has songs about his wife he has songs about like how his wife calling him when like i think it's an interesting story to hear his song about how he hopes his daughter grows up i think that's an interesting story to hear i think he has songs about how all the hoes used to fuck it's an interesting story to hear. I think he has songs about how all the hoes used to fuck. It's an interesting story to hear. The ghost town like about death and just like acceptance and feeling numb and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Interesting stuff to me. Yeah. So like it's like some of it is just listening to like a story I'm interested in while there's a beat I really like in the background.
Starting point is 00:05:18 Yeah. So it's not always it doesn't always have to be club stuff but it also doesn't have to be late registration where I can just accept the fact that this person has changed but it's still't have to be late registration where I can just accept the fact that this person has changed, but it's still interesting.
Starting point is 00:05:27 If you like his story, I can get that. I don't think he's that great of a rapper. I don't think his wordplay and his verses and his punchlines are all that interesting to me. And then so what you have is the subject matter. And the subject matter to me is like, I think he's an asshole, so I'm not that interested in what Kim Kardashian says to him. I think she's an asshole too. So it's not like a couple that I'm very intrigued by as far as what they have to say. It's not either of them in particular even.
Starting point is 00:05:55 It's just like their story of how a wife reacts when her husband goes nuts on TMZ and shit like that. How her wife reacts when her husband drops her. But I think that's all phony. I think they're very fake. All of it don't love it like it's entertainment rap is fake i don't think so i think some people are real i mean you just referenced push a t like and that's been like exposed that like most of that shit's fake yeah i don't think push t is a good example i think kanye when he was coming up was real i think he was like his insecure self that was trying to make it big and like so why do you think he's gone from insecure to like becoming mega
Starting point is 00:06:28 famous and that's gone away? Don't you think that would progress? That would get worse when you have more eyes on you and stuff like that? And now he's like a little bit crazier. No, I think he's like I'm the next Steve Jobs. I'm changing the world. I'm like, no you're not. You're a fucking rapper. I do think he thinks that and it's kind of, again, that's also something I can relate
Starting point is 00:06:44 to where it's like, I fucking hate myself, but I also fucking really like myself. He has that shit where it's like- What's the album cover say? I hate being bipolar. It's awesome. Yeah. I hate being bipolar.
Starting point is 00:06:54 And he does even little things I think are cool. It's so simplistic and cool. He took that picture last night on his iPhone. Yeah, but see, that's cool. No, it's not. Who cares? That's cool. I just think that's a little thing. People put so much time and effort into this and kind of just like, yo, this is cool. That's a cool picture. I, but see, that's cool. No, it's not. Who cares? I just think that's a little thing.
Starting point is 00:07:05 People put so much time and effort into this and Kanye's just like, yo, this is cool. That's a cool picture. I'm going to use that. I have a cool story behind it. When people were going
Starting point is 00:07:11 nuts for that, I'm like, all right. I don't know. To me, that does not, I think if someone else were to do that, you wouldn't care.
Starting point is 00:07:17 I think when Kanye takes a picture with his iPhone, it's a big deal. I'm like, why? If you found out that another rapper did that,
Starting point is 00:07:23 I think people like that simplistic stuff where it's not like, oh, I had this real artsy vibe and I want to do this and I want to do that. He's like, why? If you found out that Drake, another rapper did that, it would be like – I think people like that simplistic stuff where it's not like, oh, I had this real artsy vibe. I want to do this. I want to do that. He's like, I took that picture with an iPhone. Yeah, but everything else he does is like the artsy vibe where he has to like – even though he bought the picture from fucking – what's her name?
Starting point is 00:07:37 Whitney Houston. And like he definitely does enough – Kanye West's vibe is not simplistic at all. No, but that part is. And actually a lot of Kanyeye stuff is very simplistic it's it's it's just like base colors with just like fucking but that's what i mean it's done in a way that's like i'm so simplistic like look it's like that's like the easy clothes it's like look this is just like monotone colors and everyone's like oh my god it's like it's just everything that kan does, people automatically buy into, and that drives me crazy.
Starting point is 00:08:05 I don't think so. I think there are a lot of people like you. I mean, like, everyone in the office is telling me I'm done playing this album. Well, I think this one particularly is not as good. I don't think that this will stand up to the test of time. The only two people I've talked to in this office, I haven't talked to many people, but like, the only two people I've talked to in this office who love this album are me and Keith, and I think that kind of makes sense.
Starting point is 00:08:23 I think, I don't think that you'll be listening to this, like, you'll be listening to even to, like, The Life of Pablo. Oh, I actually, I listen to The Life of Pablo, like, a lot. I think this one, this is one where, like, I've already read. Again, this, you do relate to it so much, all the suicidal shit.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Yeah, I've read, like, a lot of articles on this album already. I've read an article on, like, each song. Like, this is an article, this is an album I'm, like, very interested in. I don't pretend there are bangers on it or anything like that, but I'm very interested and hooked by this album. I don't pretend there are bangers on it or anything like that, but I'm very interested and hooked by this album. I don't think I can get over the fact that you just can't even call Kanye West a rapper anymore to me.
Starting point is 00:08:53 He makes his own genre of music at this point. I think that's a pretty impressive thing. I don't think that's a negative at all. I wouldn't say he's just a rapper. I guess I'm not saying negative, but I'm saying I'll never be able to – I would just always compare it to when he was making really, really good classic rap songs. But don't compare things. It's only natural.
Starting point is 00:09:13 I was always – I got so annoyed when they – You're always going to compare everything of entertainment. But I think you compare things to their contemporary things rather than just what they are. But that's what I'm saying. To me, music is timeless. So it's like right now I don't care what's contemporary. I care what I think is the best.
Starting point is 00:09:27 And to me, something that's 10 years old is the best. Someone was just talking about, I saw tweets yesterday with the Top Gun 2 release or the photo release and people were like,
Starting point is 00:09:36 don't release this and ruin the first one. How does it ruin anything? It might not be as good, but I don't know why it has to be compared. It's only natural. That's what people do. I like to just appreciate it has to be compared. It's only natural. It's another thing that exists.
Starting point is 00:09:45 That's what people do. I like to just appreciate things for what they are. Yeah. I mean, I just think that it's particularly music and particularly with rap where, like, we were talking, I was talking about it with the battle rap. Like, rap is, like, oddly competitive where it's, like, you are, you almost do, like, the LeBron, who's better, LeBron or MJ for rap. It's, like, it's only natural to talk about who's the best MC and who's got the best rhymes.
Starting point is 00:10:07 And when it all is just like not like that at all and all like this weird sounds and noises and shit. I'm just like, what? Like I don't think if I played this same type of music by like a no-name, I don't think you would like it. Again, it's very France and the Lights-esque. There was a no-name when I don't think you would like it. Again, it's very Francis the Lights-esque. There was a no-name when I found him, and I loved it. I wonder if you would care as much about the subject matter
Starting point is 00:10:31 if you... If another rapper told the same story, would you be as intrigued, or does it have to be Kanye's story? I know Kanye. Like I was saying, I've followed Kanye for 10 years, so yeah, I'm more interested in his. I'm more interested in... Obviously obviously it's someone who I appreciate their outlook on things and I appreciate his like, fuck everyone.
Starting point is 00:10:52 I'm doing it my way shit. I don't pretend I'm not a Kanye stan or I'm not biased towards Kanye. I very, very much like Kanye West. And I always have and I always will. It will be difficult for him to put out something that I don't appreciate. But this one in particular, I think. The Life of Pablo I liked. I do not like it as much as I like this.
Starting point is 00:11:10 I just think, I mean, I guess I'm just always going to want it to be rap music. And it's just not ever going to be that again. No, it's not. I just need to let go of that. I think because Kanye's bored by it. Yeah, but even that's weird to me. It's just like, there's one thing to change and grow, and there's another thing to be like,
Starting point is 00:11:28 you are not at all what you once were. No. He was never a fashion designer. We were never vloggers. We were never podcasters until we became podcasters. Yeah, but it's all like the same type of content. It would be like if all of a sudden we were doing something radically different and expecting everyone to just continue to like it.
Starting point is 00:11:46 You think this is radically different? He's rapping. The music's different. The beats are different, but he's rapping. Not even really on some of it, though. There's some spoken word on it. There's not a rap verse that I'm hearing.
Starting point is 00:12:02 Yikes. All of Yikes is a rap. Yikes is the one song I like. There's always one song I liked There's always like one song like I liked Famous And that was like a rap song you know what I mean So that's just like you don't like the genre Yeah I don't like And I can't like Come to terms with like
Starting point is 00:12:17 Why don't you just do What you once did arguably better than Anybody else just to do this new Genre cause I think he does this like new shit on purpose almost rather than just like like I don't know if he I think he likes being like
Starting point is 00:12:32 I'm what would you say I'm bored by this you know I think he likes to force the change I wasn't like quoting something I just think like he probably has like it's a good word for it I think he is forcing this change of some sort
Starting point is 00:12:44 but don't like I mean like David Bowie did that for it. I think he is forcing this change of some sort. But don't, like, I mean, like, David Bowie did that all. Like, David Bowie reinvented himself all the fucking time. How about David Bowie? So you, like, don't, like, people who are, like, historic, like, Prince reinvented himself all the time. Like, they're, like, historically, like, great musicians who just found ways to keep things interesting. I think if Kanye put out ten college dropouts in the road, you'd be like, dude, do fucking something else. This is so boring. Yeah, I mean, I guess that's what's weird about rap is you never, like, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:09 Jay-Z is the only guy who's had longevity. Like, the two best before him were fucking dead before they could put out. I mean, Kanye, Tupac put out a lot. But, you know, there hasn't been enough rappers who have made it to, like, 40, 50, whatever years old that continue to rap. And, like, Drake, Drake reinvented himself all the time. He does it at an extreme level. 50 whatever years old that continued to rap and like drake drake reinvented himself all the time he doesn't yeah but even that i mean this is like like when he did his like clear like jamaican caribbean vibe i was like you're not from there like what that to me felt like very forced and disingenuous so even him i've had i've had problems with i guess i don't like change but i i like
Starting point is 00:13:41 i can i think i'm just so invested in rap. Like, if a pop star, like, changes their style, like when Bieber kind of, like, mixed his up, I was like, oh, this is cool. But when I, like – I've always listened to rap with, like, a judgmental ear. So I'm not invested in rap, so I do appreciate this. Right, right, right. So to me, it's, like, it's just a genre that is – it's a genre that I don't like, and it bothers me that he abandoned the genre that I do like. I mean, I get that. I get it.
Starting point is 00:14:10 Like I said, I'm the opposite where I've never been a huge rap guy. You could probably tell there'll be a ton of rappers that I don't even know. Right. So then it's not going to bother you that this is not those type of beats and those type of rhymes and that type of like flow and style it's just like yeah that's fine i like this a little bit like that more whatever and i guess i like just like kanye having having someone who i follow their career for so long where i just seen them change grow yeah like almost you almost feel kind of like people with us where like we've gone through fucking ups and downs so much like it's cool to see that everything changed. That would be cool. I just don't like,
Starting point is 00:14:45 like, what really bothered me is that there's not like a peep on this album about the MAGA hat and the Donald Trump stuff. Like,
Starting point is 00:14:54 so that was clearly, clearly, I mean, I think we already had the vibe, but it was clearly just promotional shit. I don't even know if it's promotional.
Starting point is 00:15:02 He says, he has like the one line. What do you say? Like, I told him slavery was a choice, yeah? Or something like that. And I was like,
Starting point is 00:15:09 that was it. No mention of him being like this Donald Trump guy. No mention. It was like, you were just stirring the pot, dude.
Starting point is 00:15:15 Which is fine, but don't tell me otherwise. I don't know that there's definitely a promotional aspect to it, no doubt. Chris Jenner's involved. But the,
Starting point is 00:15:22 I do think there are parts of it where it's just not even promotional, it's just someone who's so disconnected from reality like i think he's such an asshole i think it's ti said to him we're like ti was like i talked to him like he didn't even know about the muslim ban so like and when he explained to charlamagne about how he's like i what i like about trump is that he kind of he did something everyone told him that he can't do and i can totally see kanye in the sand totally see Kanye West liking that part of somebody. I think a lot of people can say about Trump,
Starting point is 00:15:48 he just said, fuck the world, and I'm just doing it. And he became the most successful position in the world. And obviously that's something Kanye West looks up to. And I just don't think he knows about anything else. I don't think people that famous know about the news. Yeah, that also seems hard. I think he was like, it happened on TMZ. You know what, he's like Dave to me though.
Starting point is 00:16:05 Kanye is like you once like were in touch and now you've like abandoned all of that. Like you – like nobody has ever forgotten who they were more than Dave. You know what I mean? Same thing like from Through the Wire to now, I'm just like obviously everyone changes and grows. You're not the same guy at 40 that you were at 25 or whatever it was. And then to go further with Dave, he's always like, I was that way. I changed back then. Like, I've always been, like, the rich asshole.
Starting point is 00:16:37 I was just dumbing it down for my idiot fans, and now I'm being myself. Like, I feel like that was almost maybe what Kanye was. Like, he always had arrogance for sure but he like was always the weirdo then and was just doing the rap shit I wonder which way it goes even then when he was doing the rap shit it was like he was dressing like an asshole
Starting point is 00:16:56 according to the rap community yeah but I like that where it was like it was still like within the realm of reality like he was wearing like polo shirts and pink shirts and shit. But now he's wearing sweatshirts. I know, but they're such asshole shirts and the pricing of it all and the way he thinks that he's like changed the fashion world, which he has. But he's done it in a way that it's all like Emperor's New Clothes.
Starting point is 00:17:17 It's like – But he literally has. I know. I know. He saved Adidas. Adidas was going nowhere. The Yeezys came out. Adidas just made all of their goddamn shoes look like Yeezys. Like, he saved Adidas. Adidas was going nowhere. The Yeezys came out. Adidas just made all of their goddamn shoes look like Yeezys.
Starting point is 00:17:27 And he, like, saved them. So I guess I'm more mad. It's almost like with the Yankees. Like, I'm mad at their fans, the players. Like, I'm mad that so many people. I'm mad that if you say anything negative, it's like, go fuck yourself. Your opinion is invalid. It's like, well, well wait what like i don't
Starting point is 00:17:46 you're allowed to like critique no i look listen if you if you tweet anti kanye if you say this album right now you are i mean personally yes no i know that there are kanye people on twitter who will go nuts but i mean personally like yeah no i get that like i understand what you're saying but the and that's that's just with any mega celebrity called the beehive and fucking nicky army because people do get that invested in their music and that's where i'm just invested in a different genre that he is no longer that's why i i'm so invested in the rap game that i am just devastated by what drake just did releasing that iphone note i mean i was full blown like listen i don't want to hear this push of t nonsense drake
Starting point is 00:18:27 is still miles ahead when you really look at what like what he's doing and i think this is a fatal misstep i think it was so lame and so like it's pretty cowardly to just put up a quick instagram story that like may or may not be seen and to just do like a weird explanation. Like, come on, dude. You were the one like criticizing Meek Mill for not responding quick enough and good enough, and this is your response? And then I heard he put out like a bounty for Pusha T info. I think there's some sort of like, Hot97 was saying today, I haven't looked it up, but I think he said something like $10,000 or like $100,000 for anyone who can give me like some Pusha T dirt,
Starting point is 00:19:09 which kind of makes it like almost disingenuous it's like you should almost like know there's dirt on your own somehow or something it's like i guess i guess someone always kind of leaks you the info but to just be like i put out a bounty and now i know that push a t like also is hiding a baby and i'm gonna rap about it it's like it just it takes away like the allure of it if he does come with something good it's like oh, oh, well, he paid for that. Which I don't know why that bothers me, but it seems to make it like – No, it's bothersome. There's no doubt about it. Yeah, it's just not as real, you know? It probably is how everything else happens where they have a private investigator or something like that.
Starting point is 00:19:36 Yeah, they probably do do that, but you don't know that. Yeah, exactly. It's just different with this way. I think that – I guess – I think it's one of those things where – I totally agree. It's cowardly. It sucks. I think my favorite tweet about it was someone quote-tweeting it. It was like, yo, am I bugging right now or is it none of this rhyme?
Starting point is 00:19:53 Exactly. You're supposed to respond in rap form on a song. But I think what Pusha T did to him – and I'm still a Drake guy. Pusha T is the kind of rap that I don't like. I like either pop rap or I like, this kind of, like, introspective rap. Yeah, like, every single song you've ever made, you're talking about being a drug dealer rap is pretty one-dimensional. Yeah. But it's, like, I think what he did was so fucking brutal that it's kind of out of Drake's hands.
Starting point is 00:20:21 I think it's probably shit where, like, Adidon, or however it's pronounced, was going to be the name of his Adidas line. Right. Now it's like, what do you do? Because this is associated with this bloodbath. Right. Now Adidas is probably like, dude, you can't do anything anymore.
Starting point is 00:20:33 Like, we have to redo everything. This is probably just... I wonder, though. I mean, it maybe feels that way, but I wonder if you could just, like, put your head down, not care, and just push through, because the majority of people
Starting point is 00:20:43 are still massive Drake fans, and, like... But I think it goes above his head. I think, you know, that's push through because the majority of people are still massive Drake fans. But I think it goes above his head. I think that's happened with us before where people are, we think we can put our head down and push through and people above us are like, yo, we have to deal with this. Do you think though that the heads of Adidas are going to be like, Pusha T is going to influence the average person who's buying sneakers? I wonder if within our world it's a big deal, but the person who just wants the new pair of boots with Drake's signature look might just be like, those are still dope shoes. Almost like Kanye with the MAGA shit.
Starting point is 00:21:11 Everyone was like, fuck Kanye, and then his new music comes out. It's like, I'm just going to listen. But I think more so than, no, I don't think it will affect, they think it will affect anybody who's an adult, but I think parents. There's a lot of people, yeah. Parents buying stuff for their kids. Like, look, no mom is going to buy a kid know no suburban mom who's like kind of what we're going for with the drake line is gonna buy shit for her kid that's named after his kid he's been
Starting point is 00:21:33 abandoning yeah right so like i think probably people would do this like we need to just rethink our entire outlook on this i wonder shut the fuck up and go quiet they'll just change the whole line they should just call it Adi Drake. Just tweak it a little bit. Almost like when you're fixing a tattoo. Everything is just like a weird stitching at the end of it. Twist that, twist that, yeah. I feel like that's the only explanation.
Starting point is 00:21:56 It has to be people above him being like, hey, you need to step back and we need to chill on this. You need to address this, just release a statement saying it's not just blackface for the fuck of it. There was a reason. Yeah. Which sucks, but that's almost where Drake needs to be like, nah, man, I'm a rapper.
Starting point is 00:22:13 Fuck you. I'm going to do it my way. But he's not anymore, kind of like Kanye. He's not just a rapper. Now he's in fashion. He's a mogul and shit. But I do appreciate,
Starting point is 00:22:21 I think Kanye would have been like, I'm just going to do whatever the fuck I want. How about that? The same way, I'm sure think Kanye would have been like, I'm just going to do whatever the fuck I want. How about that? The same way, I'm sure Adidas right now was like, what's up with this slavery talk? And he was like, I don't fucking care. That's true, but I think Kanye is, I think he's already proven himself in that world. Yes, if Drake already had a line of shoes that are selling out left and right, I think they would have been like, all right, go do whatever you want. It's disappointing, to say the least, if Drake, now this next song needs to be fucking. alright go do whatever you want yeah it's it's it's like disappointing
Starting point is 00:22:45 to say the least of Drake like now this next song needs to be fucking awesome to overcome this shit don't they say that all like
Starting point is 00:22:54 like maybe I was maybe I misread this I don't know much about rap beef but I was I right to say that you only have like four days to respond
Starting point is 00:23:02 that's like kind of the vibe like almost Drake established that where he was like I waited four days where y'all at. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like this is what I got to do to get you to rap. Like I got to just keep hitting you until you hit back. And then Pusha was like pretty quick. And I think people were like, all right, we got to keep it fair.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Meek Mill got absolutely murdered for taking a little while to respond. So you got to give him the same treatment. I don't know if that was ever the case back in the day with Biggie and Tupac and some of the other majors, Nas and Jay-Z. I think songs came years apart, albums apart, but I think it's so different now because you could just put it out.
Starting point is 00:23:34 You could put singles out, you could put mixtapes out, freestyles out, so that is the vibe now, whether that's even reasonable or not, it doesn't matter. Do you know how this all started, by the way? The original shit, I think was was about like bird man uh no it was about further back than that it was about it was lil wayne went on source or some you know rap magazine cover yeah wearing a a pink bape sweatshirt oh the babe argument Bape argument. Yes, yes, yes, yes. And Clip thought Bape was theirs? Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:24:06 I forgot about that because they were... That's so absurd that this is what started that 10 years ago. You're wearing a sweatshirt like my sweatshirt? And it's not like...
Starting point is 00:24:15 People rapidly pretend they're hard. That's a fucking high school girl fucking argument. That's what started all of this. A high school girl argument. And it's not even like they... If Bape was like the clip's like
Starting point is 00:24:27 actual line I could understand maybe just like that's just a shirt you like it's a street wear clothing
Starting point is 00:24:31 I don't think either of them like rep it anymore or wear it anymore it's like what is going on here it's insane that literally
Starting point is 00:24:38 a 12 year old girl's argument like Samantha's wearing my sweatshirt today is what started a rap beef 10 years now exposing children and just like destroying families you're little fucking girls Samantha's wearing my sweatshirt today is what started rap beef ten years ago. Now exposing children and just like
Starting point is 00:24:47 destroying families. You're little fucking girls. I love Nardini's book. Every guy's a woman. Every dude is a fucking chick, man. It's wild. It's incredible. By the way, I like Drake's, I like Kanye's responses to Drake on this. On Ye. What did he say? He had one where it was just like
Starting point is 00:25:04 at least the one that stuck out to me, was it was basically like, he said something along the lines of, look, to be honest, dude, I like you. I just like fucking with you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Calm the fuck down, you light skin. Right. Yeah, there is a vibe to me of like, you can take things really seriously.
Starting point is 00:25:21 I mean, it's tough once Butcher T goes where he went. Like, now you have to take it seriously. I think there have been times where it's like it's just hip hop it's just rap we're just like you know
Starting point is 00:25:28 throwing some jabs at each other now I don't think you can blame anybody for taking it too seriously but Kanye's just one step removed enough where he can be like
Starting point is 00:25:35 I don't fucking care yeah he's like relax I like you he's like I forget like I don't I like you but not enough to wax you or something like that.
Starting point is 00:25:47 Yeah, like I'm not even going to. And then you said something along the lines of, look, dude, I'm too rich for this. If they're all smart, I was going to say, if they're smart enough, just put out a Drake and Kanye song at some point soon enough and just make bank. Put out that song sooner rather than later because the summer of music has been not great. Terrible. I could tell you one song. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:05 Last year we did a podcast being like, I don't know. I mean, we were all pretty firmly on the side of I'm the one, but it was like there's five or six contenders. I'll still say that society was wrong on that one. We were super wrong. There was Despacito. There was I'm the one. There was Calvin Harris slide.
Starting point is 00:26:24 There was Ellie Goulding had a song, and Kygo had a song. It was like probably upwards of seven that you really could say. It was like the weekend before Memorial Day weekend just had like a shitload drop. Yep. And now the week after, and I haven't heard any. The only song that comes to my mind is Nice For What. And I like that song. Bitches go wild for that. That's why.
Starting point is 00:26:45 The girls are like, eh. I guess I just haven't been. I don't listen to pop music, like radio. And I don't really go to clubs. So where would you hear it? Where would I hear this? I heard it when it came out. This on the radio is constant.
Starting point is 00:26:58 Really? Yeah. Constant. And this, the Lauryn Hill sample is like is like people i think people don't even know the lauren hill song i'm like go listen to x factor and you'll hear a whole song like this it slowed down a little bit but it's a whole song so i think he was very smart with his sample and just it's see this is what like it's fast it's upbeat it's like it just hits And the girls love it Like even that entrance So this to me
Starting point is 00:27:28 I think would be the only Song of the summer I couldn't tell you We said before this started We said What are some of the songs And I couldn't tell you any of them And you suggested that one
Starting point is 00:27:43 And I was like oh yeah maybe that one And I couldn't have even told you that. Logan, you said this was, like, number one on the charts? What are the other... What else do we got? Play some other shit that... I wonder if there'll even be songs where we're like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:57 I don't even know what this is. That's not good. Maybe we're just washed. Are we old? We're old I don't even know I have never heard the song Once in my life
Starting point is 00:28:10 I kinda like it It's not bad I don't know the artist No idea If you had to guess What would you guess? It's not bad I wouldn't
Starting point is 00:28:21 It's not a bad song It's not Song of Honor Who? I don't even know Post Malone Oh yeah He So
Starting point is 00:28:28 Post Malone's been Oh yeah I never really listened to Post Malone dropped Beer Bags and Bentleys And there was some songs off that I like Post Malone But I didn't really listen to
Starting point is 00:28:36 Beer Bags and Bentleys at all We should We should have recognized That was Post Malone We're old Beer Bags and Bentleys Was just Way too
Starting point is 00:28:43 Long It was The opposite of Kanye Yeah it was like It wasn't like 20 songs Also I saw that and was like No no We're old Beerbogs and Bentleys Was just way too long It was my The opposite of Kanye Yeah it was like It wasn't like 20 songs Also I saw that and was like
Starting point is 00:28:48 No no Post Malone makes The same song Every single time Yeah yeah yeah It is the exact same sound Which is like If it ain't broken
Starting point is 00:28:54 If you like that sound But he's You know I'm gonna criticize Kanye For like Changing too much Like Post Malone Mix it up a little bit buddy
Starting point is 00:29:02 I know this one Yeah nothing I think I'm pretty sure You know it Again though Songs of summer mean Like your mom knows them You know like
Starting point is 00:29:16 I got nothing It's amazing what a difference A year can make. See ya later. I'm old. I like these island vibes. I can vibe to this, but is this the song that you're at the bar and it comes on and everyone goes, I don't know about that.
Starting point is 00:29:50 Yeah, I mean this is a weird song to me where this is hard to just like walk down the street and bop to. Especially once you've seen the video, you're like oh yeah, he blows
Starting point is 00:29:58 that guy's head off and then he mows down the choir. He blows that guy's head off so cool though. I know, it is cool. That like he points his foot.
Starting point is 00:30:07 That's one where I watched the video, because I think the video came out the same time. I didn't even know that it had that little like, intro vibe to it too. Oh, that was the same thing? Yeah, before that dropped, yeah. Okay, so then, yeah, I did know that one. I wish it kind of stayed with that, because I like that one. Yeah. I watched the video once, and for the next two weeks, I was like, this is a murder. I wish it kind of stayed with that because I like that part yeah but the
Starting point is 00:30:25 I watched the video once and like for the next two weeks I was like this is a murder I would just say it to myself all the time I think it's the only lyrics in the song
Starting point is 00:30:33 but it's you can't that can't be your only your only thing if you're gonna be a song of the summer and that again I think it's a little too heavy
Starting point is 00:30:40 for a song of the summer it's like boom boom boom boom boom it's like oh shit shit's going down. I fuck with this. Cardi B.
Starting point is 00:30:51 She had some hits on here that I think, Cardi B is the type to do a song of summer where it's very much like, very funny, almost basic, like,
Starting point is 00:31:05 nah, I don't hate it. I actually listened to very funny, almost basic, like. Nah, I mean, I don't, I don't hate it. I actually listened to some of Cardi B on like a train home and I didn't,
Starting point is 00:31:12 I didn't mind it, but this is amazing. I was stunned that I, that I didn't mind it. Yeah. Like, she's the exact type of like,
Starting point is 00:31:19 new female rapper that I'd be like, fuck this. But I was like, alright, I found myself like, popping to her a little bit. She's just like, she's a very
Starting point is 00:31:28 likable person, Cardi B. She's a clown, you know? That's the Song of Summer type of shit. Either way, man, I don't think it's the best crop we've ever encountered. But these are the moments where you realize that maybe you're super out of touch. Maybe the young crowd is like, no man, these are
Starting point is 00:31:43 the best songs I've ever fucking heard. I knew more of them, but this. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, this. Come on. This is the type of shit that is supposed to be a song or something. I mean, if you told me this was your favorite song of all time, I wouldn't begrudge you.
Starting point is 00:32:03 K-Marco is. Is that his favorite? Yeah.-Marco is very real content. Yeah. And I just have so many good memories of this song. Yeah. This was the summer where I started Sides of the Boys. There was a video of me in a helicopter. That's what music is.
Starting point is 00:32:22 That's why I like Kanye old, because I was doing fun shit. New Kanye, I'm changing diapers and having problems in my marriage. I'm like, fuck this album. So it's all about what you were doing when you're listening to these songs. And this song was hot for three years, it felt like. So you could have all different memories from that. Alexis ran in the fucking video. Oh, what a rocket.
Starting point is 00:32:43 So that's our music recap for the summer. Let us know you like Kanye. Who's ahead in Drake Pusher? What's your song of summer? Hit us up on Twitter
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