KFC Radio - Ria Gets Real About Dealing With Mean Commenters - Inside Barstool

Episode Date: March 20, 2023

Timecodes: 00:00:00 Start 00:14:19 When Ria first started 00:17:16 Being a pharmacy tech 00:25:01 Being on a billboard in Time Square 00:27:33 When Ria felt like she "made it" 00:35:20 Not going to influencer events 00:47:49 Dealing with hate comments 00:57:34 Ria got into Barstool through KFC's blogs 01:02:26 Ria's Pee story 01:13:18 quitting w**d 01:20:50 Having two public relationships 01:32:48 Where will Ria work next? 01:36:42 Ria considered making an Only Fans ++++++++++++++++++++ Hellofresh Go to https://barstool.link/HFKFC and use code kfc60 for 60% off + free shipping Betterhelp: This episode is sponsored by Betterhelp. Go to https://barstool.link/BHKFC for 10% off your first month ++++++++++++++++++++ Catch the rest of the podcast here: https://linktr.ee/kfcr #KFCRadio #BarstoolSports #chicksintheofficeYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/kfcr

Hey, KFC Radio listeners, you can find every episode of KFC Radio on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. What do you mean? Like, it's just like, I just, I'm trying to figure it out, because I'm like, I don't even know where the P comes out of. I'm ready for this. Here's the thing. You can't take that either. I know. Because if they're right, then everyone else is right too.

I know. So I don't want to see any of it. I do subscribe to you can't listen to them when they're down on you or high on you. But when they're high on you, you got to take your wins when you get them. No, no, no, no. No, that's not. No, I actually think that the ease with which you will hop on the internet and be mean to somebody, people just do that all the time because they're fucking assholes.

What it takes to watch something, go online and tweet at or comment on someone and be like yo i like that that takes way more effort and is way more meaningful than someone just being like you're ugly yeah it sucks but like it's but you shouldn't buy into it like you shouldn't be like i'm the fucking greatest in the world but i do think the positive is a little more more important than the negative i i i think we were saying this before we came in like i i legitimately think i'm not gonna do a de stefano level where like like de stefano he looks good dude he looks great what he so he just like lost a bunch of weight and like so he's doing intermittent fasting he's doing intermittent fasting he and he got he's like i got off the internet and i'm like he looks he was glowing in every I see, he's like glowing.

Yep. Because he also hired a social team and gave them his socials. And then it was like, change my passwords. And don't tell me. I was considering kind of doing that. I'm not going to do that level, but I am going to. I'll still tweet watching TV stuff and stuff like that, but I want someone else to tweet my content. I wish I could do that.

I really – it's gotten worse than usual lately so terrible the problem is is like those people are like they have are we recording yeah okay do you care sure but i yeah whatever well those people have like their job and then they come to the internet to promote it and do it like our job is the internet so it's hard to like not yeah right like tiktok i think is one of the worst and best places like i can spend hours on there but then also you can either have like a bunch of positive videos in a row and then or you can have like really negative ones where it's like you're gonna step outside and die today like this horrible accident like no like this is a terrible this shit that comes up. On, like, your For You page?

Okay, so on my For You page, I've been getting these really dark videos lately. And, like, in a row. And I don't know how I got them. About how moms killed their baby in their sleep by sleeping with them. Like, newborn in bed. You know that. And I just keep getting keep i don't know how it ended up on my page but like i just keep getting videos about how and i'm like i don't

have a kid i am not having a kid right now like why now i'm scared about sleeping like you're like i'm i'm freaked out dude i i said this the other day. My For You page at the top just had a kid who was way too old breastfeeding. And I was like, what the fuck is this? But then I watched it. I'm like, it's going to feed me more of it. Fuck. My brother the other day, he turned to me and goes, he was like, I don't know why this keeps happening. Maybe you'll know, but I keep getting these breastfeeding videos.

I was like, I think a lot of guys are getting those apparently and i was like are you watching them and he was like he was like they just pop up and then i have the algorithm you know it's like well he watched it so yeah i haven't had any breastfeeding and i don't use tiktok so i don't know if it's i don't know if it's an instagram thing but i have have had on Instagram a stand-up comedian talking about, I don't know if it's a stand-up comedian, it's not a podcast, but most of my feed is podcasts or comedians doing podcasts. It's what the whole world is devolved into. Yeah.

And it is, he's talking about how he was breastfed until he was five. So it wasn't KDL. That's disgusting. But it was like, he's like, yeah, it was weird. Like I could go ask my mom to suck her dick. Bro. I's disgusting. But it was like, yeah, it was weird. Like, I could go ask my mom to suck her tit. I hate that. Keegan's five right now. If he was sucking on a tit for breakfast.

Oh, my God. See, I find that disturbing. Keegan can, like, beat me up. We, like, wrestle and shit. Imagine if he was like, hang on. He's like, give me these titties. I need a break. Give me your tit.

Oh, my God. Dude, I'm happy you mentioned the algorithm, though, because it's obviously been kind of in the zeitgeist for a little bit now, a little more so recently. I think I'm over. Not over in, like, I don't care about it. I think people complain about it too much now. Complain about what? The algorithm where it's like, we don't get to choose what we see anymore, blah, blah,

blah. Yeah, that's been the media forever. Like, when you bought newspapers, you didn't choose what stories were in. Stories were fed to you. News reports were fed to you. i'm more mad about the fact that i'm seeing post from october like i just want to see it in chronological order i don't care what i don't like what i don't like is i think it used to be like a director of a movie was like i'm gonna make this movie that i think is a cool topic and whatever now it's like because fucking two billion teenage chinese kids watch this that's what all tiktok's gonna be but it used to be like you could you could kind of pick your lane and

like if you like this and you're an adult you go over here and if you like sports you go here and now it's like we're all on one big internet and how like why should your viewing affect me we're totally different you know i i get that and i And I'm speaking more to, like, news rather than entertainment. But, like, even back in the day before, not even, like, when we were alive, like, before there was streaming and all these channels, like, you had three channels to watch. You had, like, it's like, this is the show you're watching tonight. Right.

It wasn't. Dude, I actually like that. I don't know. You old enough to know that? Well, I had. Like, the dial on the TV? Like, you don't get to fucking. She didn't have a dial.

I had a remote. My baby seat you don't get to fucking she didn't have a dial i had a remote my baby but it was like you and me had our grandparents tv yeah yeah it was i never had a dial in my house but i i've been to houses that had two dials that the one that went like really like i had channel like two to two to 59 right because you would have your go-to like nickelodeon disney channel, MTV, VH1. And you knew all of them and you jumped around. And then they added those extra channels, like the 100s and the 200s and 300s. And it was like, oh, shit. I remember that happening.

That was really cool. And then it was, like, on demand. So I remember all of that happening. What I remember is, like, when Breaking Bad and Mad Men was on AMC. That's when it really broke out, at least to me. AMC was fucking loser dad channel. Before that, it was like the best show on television on it. You had your premium TV, your HBOs, your Showtimes,

and you had broadcast television. That was it. Those were the first, and maybe I'm wrong, I don't know, but in my memory, those were the first ones I was like, okay, I won't watch one of the first ten channels or ESPN. You had TNT and TBS rerunning. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For new stuff like yeah

but uh yeah like it was i i what i i i don't like that like as i'm growing up with my kids now it i remember getting in front of the tv with my family being like we all watch american idol whatever yeah yeah mine was star trek. Whatever the fuck it is, it was like 7 o'clock, 8 o'clock at this time. We all watch this. My shit is like, you know, Keegan has the television and he's like playing a video game. Shay is watching what she wants on her iPad. I'm watching what I want on my phone. And we're all together, but it's not like, you know, it sucks.

Dude, I'm glad we're talking about TV because I think the Chicago draft. Fuck, when did the Chicago draft come out? Does anyone know? I know Nate did it yesterday. I don't know if it comes out today. But they did best TV show. Well, it'll be Monday, so. Yeah, but I don't want to step on their shoulders if it comes out, like, Tuesday.

Whatever, let's have the discussion. But they drafted best TV channels. And it was, you got throughout history. You got, it wasn't just what's on TV right now. And, um, I was like talking

Nate about it after and we were just running through channels. Bro, you were saying Jersey Shore reminded me, like MTV. MTV was a fucking

revolution. I said this the other day that MTV, why did they stop doing what they did? Like, why are you just still doing Jersey Shore? You had so many ideas. You had so many great shows.

It was appointment TV. Like, there was Room Raiders, Next, like all of those great shows. It was like a cultural staple that just did some bad shows and somehow got diluted and lost its footing. It just grew too big and hired too many people. It used to be a tight-knit group of really funny people, and then all of a sudden it watered it down. And now they're talking about dinosaurs. Yeah, man.

Yeah. No, but I actually think that is more, like, behind the scenes than we realize. Because, like, Viacom had Comedy Central and MTV and a couple others that just. Comedy Central used to crush, too. Somebody. I guess that was. Changed. Like, some head of Viacom changed and it all went to shit.

Bro. That guy. Whoever that guy is. Fuck that guy. Well, even here, we here we you know we had those uh meetings with erica and gaz like we never had any end of the year meetings or like we did kind of with dave barely like years ago yeah he would like walk into the office and then he'd like flip a page and he'd be like all right you're getting this like and it was like and you would just leave

you i remember one time we were going to grab a drink at the Smith. And Dave called me into his office. I was like, I'll meet you over there in a minute. I'll meet you over there after, whatever. And I might have beat you there, Kevin. You were like, what happened? Did you cancel? I was like, no, no, we had it. They were so quick.

You'd walk in. You'd barely get to sit down. And you'd be out the door. And then this year, Erica and Gaz did them. And so many things that we were being told to do, we were told not to do four years ago. Don't get me started on that, man. And so me and Fran were like, yes, we will do these things. But we also, like, really haven't engraved in us to not do that.

So are you giving us the, like, do this? Totally. And so it's just crazy to see, like, everything changes. So not just like TV like media everything changes all the fucking time they stripped all

of my podcast off of YouTube they said don't use YouTube yes because I remember when Brendan

was helping us yeah with Chicks in the Office like getting started and he was like YouTube like you guys

gotta get on YouTube and I remember being like should we make getting started and he was like you YouTube like you guys got to get on YouTube And I remember being like we should we make YouTube videos and they were like what is YouTube gonna do? I guess I guess I'm not gonna do YouTube and now we're fucking We're begging for subscribers But if we did it if that was like 2007 and 8, like what is this YouTube thing going to do for you? They were saying that in like 2019. It was crazy. I don't know.

Look at like Mr. Beast and the Paul brothers. It's so funny. It's like – Imagine if we had a decade of growing subscribers back when everyone was in YouTube mode. Like now everyone is kind of over it and you're scrapping for them. We could have just had a decade of... It might have been 2018, but it was... It was so bad.

I mean, we've talked about it kind of ad nauseum, but it was like... But it's because it's one of the all-time. We had, like... It wasn't we, really. It was mostly Logan. Like, put together... We did a presentation for you. A literal presentation on why we should use YouTube.

The only time we've ever done anything corporate. We put together, like, three PowerPoint slides. We did. Swear to God. It was, like, three three slides and it was like, because YouTube's fucking huge. So crazy. But I guess that is why.

I do always qualify. We were like a podcast company. We had a lot of salaries to pay, a lot of fucking rent to pay, and they needed to make the most money they could. And they did that by audio ads and Brightcove views. So they probably would come back and say well you know what YouTube's not making us money right

now and if you want a fucking salary you're gonna put you know. I think both people have an argument. I also get like you know we always say like this place is changing so many new people but at the same time those new people are also teaching us new things and like. Keeps you sharp. I'd rather

have the new people who came from nowhere though because we also do a lot of people where it's like i used to be a bleacher reporter i don't give a fuck that's what we fucking we're trying not to be yeah yeah but so you feel like young people are kind of pushing you a little bit what do you mean like they're put like they're like keeping you on your toes like the younger i'm not young people i consider myself young you still are um i'm 25 new people you're like fucking like the younger. Not young people. I consider myself young still. You still are, yeah. I'm 25. Please don't.

You're like fucking like, I was talking to my dad the other day about Taylor Hall. And he's like, yeah, you know, he's getting up there. I'm like, no, he's 29. He's just been here since he was 18. You're so fucking young. Well, I started right when I turned 19. It's disgusting that you're 25.

It's disgusting. It's so. I'm so much older than you, but I've always been so much older than you. I hate when people call themselves old. Disgusting. It's so... I'm so much older than you, but I've always been so much older than you. But I... I hate when people call themselves old that are not above the age of fucking 55. Like, it's genuinely one of my biggest...

She's gonna say 37. She's gonna say 37. No, it's one of my biggest pet peeves because I'm like... Like, people who... Because I'm 25 now, right? And people literally around my age... You're too young, girl. Or... I know. And I know I'm young and I because I'm 25 now, right? And people literally around my age. You're too young, girl.

I know. And I know I'm young and I think I'm young. But there's people who are like 28, 29. They're like, oh, I'm getting old. I want to be 30. 30 is still very fucking young. We live to 100 now. Yeah, like it's insane that everyone's calling themselves old.

Like you're not old. Picture back in the day when something was 30% downloaded. You'd be like, I'll go to school. I'll come back. It won't be done now. Yeah, we're only 30% downloaded. Yeah, but the thing is, the last, like, 40% totally sucks. You know what I mean?

That's because I look at my parents who are still, like, in their mid-50s. Yeah, your parents are young. And they, like, party every weekend and never turned into those people that just, like, are withering away on the couch. They probably go out more than I do at this point. So I think that's a good example of you don't have to just sit on the couch. It's funny because my sister is a big fan of Chicks in the Office, and we talk about it a lot.

And I always think of my sister, who's older than you, as this little girl. But I've always thought of you as just a co-worker, which is weird because that's because ria's a gangster ria's like the og queen b of this so like like i'll be like she's 27 she's a baby and i'm like oh ria's my co-worker and like and obviously sibling plays a factor into that sometimes i look back on like the very like my first couple weeks and stuff i get get so embarrassed. Like me and Robbie Fox will talk about it all the time and I was like,

I was a bitch and you were a dick. Like we thought- To each other? Yeah, to each other and to, but we thought

we were so cool. Like we thought we were so cool and I was the first like girl besides Erica in that office besides like a couple of sales people

and I just thought like, oh my God, this is so cool and I like cringe thinking back I have a very vivid memory of most things in my life which I'm I mean I'm not autistic but like I like I just like remember a lot of things you should drink more and uh yeah well I did smoke a lot of weed and I stopped but uh I just like get a flashback and like it it pours over my body and I'm like, I can't believe I said that or did that. Some of the things in the beginning.

Did you see the picture that Erica gave me a framed picture of it's me, you, her, Dave, and Keith at the first American Idol, Barstool Idol. For some reason we're all mean mugging and it's the most awkward picture

and it's the most awkward collection. Is that like me, you and Keith had like a little crew together or something like, what even is this picture? I was 19 and an intern. Like,

I don't even know why I'm in that picture. That was so funny. But I remember that. Remember that girl was like, I want to be the first girl at Barstool and you were like,

excuse me. And the whole crowd went, oh. Yeah, well she looked around and she said, I don't see any girls giving the guys a run for their money and I was like, I'm literally, she like, I was right behind her and I was like, I me? And the whole crowd went, oh. Yeah, well, she looked around. She said, I don't see any girls giving the guys a run for their money.

And I was like, I'm literally, she like, I was right behind her. And I was like, I'm right here. And that was actually the first day of Barstool Idol was the first day that I started getting paid, basically. Like, Dave called me into his office. And he was like, I didn't know you were, like, funny. And I was like, okay.

And he was like, do you want to get, like, paid for this? Like, is this something you want to do? And I i was like that would be fun like i'm doing the internship i'd love to get paid yeah and then from there it just started you were in school and dropped out or never were in school i was in school and i dropped out yeah well i went to pace um before like my first year of college i went to pace for a semester dropped out i hated it weird collection of people there like i just didn't fit in. I lived there. I really didn't like it. Dropped out. Where was Pace?

In the city, downtown. Pace is weird. Going to college in the city is just kind of weird. It's not a real college experience. I thought that I wanted to go to school in the city when I was younger but I also loved partying and everything so I don't know why I didn't look for that somewhere else,

but I also didn't really have great grades to, like, go to a big party school, so... West Virginia, baby. Yeah. I had a few friends go to West Virginia. Thomas, people are alive. Like, straight up, I think one girl from out of state at a state school got in with, like, a sub-1 GPA.

Yeah. Or, like, Arizona State, which i guess but i dropped out of pace and then i just worked for the rest of the semester and i worked that whole summer because work um i was a pharmacy tech which i talk about all the time because it was the best fucking job ever like i seriously loved it really i would fill people's prescriptions like who am i to be filling people oh you were oh i were... Oh, I thought you were, like, the door-to-door, like, pharmacy sales girl. No, no, no. I literally...

Does that mean you have, like, the little spoon you're putting in the capsules? Yeah, it was the counter, and I filled the capsules. So, can I tell you something? They let Rhea behind the counter for the drugs? 18, 19? 18. So, can I tell you something, though? Pharmacists, right, obviously, you know, they're, like, good at their job.

Like, they know... All they fucking do is type it on the computer and then you the pharmacy tech anything else does all of the work of like counting the pills like closing them up no way i did not put them in do it in new york there's only a couple states where you're allowed to be a pharmacy tech without going to school for it if the pharmacist just new york to school for it if the pharmacist just – New York is one of them. New York is one of them.

If the pharmacist just teaches you. So I loved this job. I felt so smart. I was like, I'm filling your fucking prescription. Yeah, I wore like a white lab coat. And I was like, wow, like maybe – That's great. Because I wanted to –

That's crazy. I wanted to act my whole life. I just wanted to be an entertainer of any sort. And then when I started doing the pharmacy tech, I was like, maybe I'm a doctor. Maybe this is it. Maybe I'm smart. like i don't think so but maybe did you did you like go to work hungover and shit like that well i didn't have a lot of friends at the time because all of my friends or most of my friends went away to school and i had one friend who stayed home um and we kind of were just like basically losers at that point because

everyone was away like we had just graduated high school everyone went off and did their thing i'm at home basically doing nothing like nothing all the time besides going to work and then i would hang out with my brother's only three years older than me and my brother was home and he had a group of friends so i would hang out my brother and his friends and stuff and like that's when i would go out but besides that like i just woke up and went to work at 8 a.m every day until four o'clock for six days a week i had one day off and no but i loved like i was like i came home and i was like talk about the people at the pharmacy like i made friends at work like it was it was a good time and then i started going to fit because i was, I can't be in pharmacy tech forever.

So I go to FIT. But within the first two weeks of going to FIT is when I got the internship here. Dude, I have taken like I take Omeprazole now. Like from acid reflux. And there are some days where I'm like, it didn't take. And that's because a hungover 18-year-old put Valtrex in that pill instead. Wrong bottle. It's crazy.

And, you know, a lot of times, like, you started to get to know the drug addicts. Yeah. Because people would come in with their, like, Oxy prescription. Yeah, and then they'd come in, and I'd fill it, and I had the counter. So it wasn't like I had to manually count them. You, like, put it into a thing, and it counts for you. But you would do it a couple times with those types of pills. Margotics, whatever. Yeah.

And guys would come in, or girls, but mostly guys, would come in. They'd be like, you forgot a pill. And I'm like, no. I'll recount them. Wow. I'll recount them. And then you'd recount them. That's grimy.

And there'd be one missing because they took it. Wow. What a bunch of scumbags. And then you'd have to talk to the pharmacist. And they're like, just fucking give them the pill. Like, oh, you know? Shit to talk to the pharmacist and they're like just fucking give them the pill. Like at that point they're like

and that's why we have an opioid crisis. But if they knew the person was really bad like it was somebody that tried to do it often they'd be like no we know

that she counted them right. So it was crazy but yeah I started working here two weeks within FIT Did you finish that semester or did you drop out? I finished that semester and then I dropped out. Did you like it? I've actually been thinking about auditing two weeks within FIT. Did you finish that semester or did you drop out? I finished that semester and then I dropped out.

Did you like it? I've actually been thinking about auditing some classes at FIT. What? I've been thinking about auditing some classes at FIT. Don't. What does that mean? I'm just like going to state class. You would like it there because it's such an eclectic group of people that like everyone's wearing different things.

I walk by it every day at home and I'm like, I'm just going to go home and sit on the couch and watch TV. It is right here. Why don't I like pop into a class and fucking look at clothes. Go back to school, John. We've been pushing for it. I'm not going to. No, I would go because, like, I'm interested in that kind of stuff. Yeah.

I don't want to go learn about fucking history and shit. Yeah. It was interesting. You can get you some college credits, though. You can get your diploma, finally. The only thing I didn't fuck with was, like, I was used to going to class just, like, in comfy clothes, just like how any normal person does. But then they're in heels at 8 a.m.

And so then I would have to like dress up and girls would be eating like seaweed. No, FIT is not your vibe, man. No, it wasn't. And I had a 3.8 GPA at Pace and dropped out. And then when I was done with FIT, I had like a 1.4. Because I was only coming here. Like, there were times where Dave would text me and Glenn and be like, is there any way you guys can like show up today for this thing? And me and Glenn would be like, all right, we're not going to school today.

Like, fuck it. But you guys are smart. I remember talking. I remember Bob and you and Glennie. And at that point, I was still like, I really think you guys should get your degree. Yeah, I didn't choose Barstool barcelona degree i wasn't allowed yeah like barcelona will be here get your degree and then it turned out to be the dumbest thing i was like definitely don't worry about your you know i remember this conversation you know when glenn uh first did the rundown it was like basically our

first we were here for like maybe six months and you guys did the rundown on was like basically our first we were here for like maybe six months and you guys did the rundown on tv oh yeah yeah when he was uh right in the in the bus yeah and i remember being so jealous because i was like why does he get to do that and i don't get to go but i was still an intern so there was no reason where i should have been going whatever and i remember everyone coming home and we were standing in a circle talking. It was like me, Glenn, Erica. And Erica was like, Glennie, like, you're such a star. Like, the rundown is so great. You're such a star.

And she turned to me and she was like, don't worry. Like, you'll have your day one day, too. And I was like, in my head, I'm like, will I? Will I fucking have it? Will I be like Glenn? Go back to that party. Will I be like Glennie Balls one day? Will I be a star?

Yo, but you are a star. You get out what you put in, yeah. Oh, thank you. Like, shit has really popped off. You know, I saw the video of when you guys had Dave on, and he talked about coming out of his office with a bat. Yeah. And that was my first or second week here, when he came out with a bat, and I was like,

hmm, this feels like home. What was it? I was like, oh, cool. My family has anger issues. This feels right. I was going to say, that was the most Long Island shit. I was like, all right. We almost walked over and punched him in the face.

Go to bed, dad. That was him being like, nobody's afraid of me. And I thought it was awesome, though. Right from the beginning, which is so weird, I didn't have any thoughts like, I'm not going to stay here ever. That made you like it more? Just everybody you guys are like yelling at each i remember you guys had like a big fucking fight and i was like this is awesome like this could be my job like that would be great and you know what's really weird i when i was at pace we had to do one of those like

dumb prompts where it was like write what you where you're gonna be in five years and like write as if it's happening like get up and present it as if it's happening and I got up there and I was like I am going it's a different company but it still like fits the mold of what happened um i was like i'm gonna start working at hbo as an intern and i'm gonna you know start giving my own ideas and i'm gonna go right to the top and i'm gonna like become like a staple and i got up there and i said the whole thing and my professor was like wow i i actually believed you like i felt like that was real and then some context i'm like it's weird because I feel like I sort of did that here.

You absolutely did. I was an intern. You were on a billboard in Times Square. You did it. Which, by the way, is such a Barstool thing that nobody told us until the day I was there. And we were like, is it still running? And they were like, we don't know. And we sent Noah.

We might have forgot to tell you. We sent Noah because he lives around there or whatever and he was like guys it's still running and so me and fran were like all right well we have to go see this like it's once in a lifetime probably never happen again and so that was when i saw that i think on instagram twitter wherever i saw it i was like why the fuck didn't they tell anyone about this they didn't know about it yeah we had no idea we were like okay thanks like you're just sitting at your desk and just like by the way you guys are in time square right now

then you just like walked up there to the train whatever you did well they emailed us they were like gas sent an email and was like by the way this is happening like if you see it just like tag amazon if you happen upon it like yeah i'm gonna fucking sprint there Right now dude I mean I'm where TRL was shot Wait so So we went And

Marty came with us So he could like We were like We need somebody To take these fucking Pictures of us In Times Square And the first time

It played on a loop And the first time We like soaked it in Like took a video You know And then we're like Well now we have to get a picture in front of it. And we had to stand in the middle of the street to get the picture.

We're taking a picture. Three school buses just come. And block the whole thing. And we're pictures like this. I have them on my phone. And we're like, all right, we've got to wait another seven minutes. And we just watched it again. And then finally we got really cute pictures.

But nobody in Times Square cared you guys did anyone no one put it together well did you you guys watch Entourage oh yeah so you know the episode

where Johnny Drama has the billboard and he's like standing in front of it yes yes yes but then somebody recognizes Vince yeah no

instead of him yeah so Johnny Drama is like standing in front of the billboard and then like Vince is with him and someone's like Vince like we were standing in front of the billboard, and then Vince is with him, and someone's like, Vince, we were standing in front of the billboard,

and somebody's like, Marty Marsh! And we were like, are you fucking kidding me? Are you fucking kidding me? Look, look! That is actually one of my favorite marketing things ever done, is when Superman first came out, the newer ones, they put Henry Cavill, Cavill, I don't know how it's pronounced. Cavill. Cavill.

They had him in Times Square under his billboard, dressed as Clark Kent, and no one recognized him. And they were like, see? It works. It works, you fucking assholes. It's like James Cameron with the door. He's been complaining about this for fucking 100 years. It's not bad.

It works. That's not fucking bad. It's funny. When did you feel like you really made it? Because I feel like there was a – I'm still sometimes confused. Like, I'm like, are we, like – But, like, you know, like, Chicks in the Office went from, like,

you're talking about these people to, like, you're hanging out with these people. You're on the shows with these people. Yeah. That made it – I feel like that – it was, like, slow and then boom. Like, then it went choom. In 2019, there was a switch that flipped where it was like we did the Jonas Brothers thing for our 100th episode where we toured. Yes, maybe it was that. We toured Coors Light Brewery with them.

So we did that. And then there was just a roll of the Bachelor stuff started really picking up. And it was really – When you hung out with the Jonas Brothers, that was like natural, right? That was just like the bar competition. The first time we hung out with them. So that I think was maybe like because it was like you guys just talked about the Jonas Brothers, said you liked them. The Barstool Bar thing happened and they were like, let's kick it.

And then we just got super fucked up. Yeah, that was so funny. You guys recorded that podcast. We were so drunk. we were so drunk you were like a car from pennsylvania to new york right yeah we we took a car home because we had to come to work because that was when the radio show was still happening so we had to like get to where i i sat in this office and threw up all day it was so bad noah threw up in the car like after we recorded he threw up in the car like I don't know how he

yes I don't know how he and then wait uploaded that podcast like I don't know how that podcast got uploaded yeah he doesn't know how it got uploaded

like we it's still one of those things where people are like that's the best episode ever and I'm like we can't listen to that episode we don't remember that episode yeah no

not at all like I just remember being in a dark car and then that's it and then after that we set up the whole like interview thing with them yeah which was really cool and then i feel like from there like 2019 like things thank you things started like really like picking up in a cool way um and yeah but like you know like you felt it we just got to start doing these really cool things. And that's how I felt. We went to Miami and they put us on a yacht randomly for an ad deal.

This is different. There were a couple things that we started doing and I was like, this is really cool. This is interesting. And yeah, I think I started feeling it then. But it ebbs and flows. Sometimes I'm like, we're not enough. We're not doing anything. This past week has been really cool for us yeah but like before that i was like we're falling off which i think is is is both incredibly

unhealthy and incredibly healthy yeah like i think you have to have a balance that's like like the good part of barstool being like having a lot of the best people and being ultra competitive is that it's like you don't ever rest on your laurels you don't ever i've always like you did like an asshole like i just had like the biggest fucking movie star on my show i'm the best it's like yeah well like that show over there just did the same thing and that show's doing this you know what i mean but like i also think there's a way to like if you just positively reinforce people and be like you know it's awesome

what you're doing yeah and then you know it that way and you don't you don't have to feel like the ever the need to constantly go go in some way i i actually talked about this on francis's podcast that i'm saying like chicks in the office has like their own group of fans that are not necessarily barstool oh yeah my sister loves you guys does not consume are not necessarily Barstool fans. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. My sister loves you guys, does not consume an ounce of Barstool. They have both. Like we have both, but there are a big group that don't follow both things.

Right. And I think that's funny sometimes when the Barstool fans in the stoolies sometimes will be like, is Chicks in the Office like even that big? And it's like, yeah, bro. It in the Office even that big? Yeah, bro. It's just the people who consume us don't use Reddit. And I said the amount of times Dave has said it too, but they choose to just ignore it. It's not like he's not saying it.

It's just very funny. The people of the internet just not getting how big the world and the internet is. And that there are different demographics. I mean, I... I get it, too, Sergeant Ruff, too. No, no. Like, the...

Because, like, I've said it about shit before where, like... I remember one time, like... It actually was kind of probably, like, I stopped saying it after, like, Twitter corrected me. Where I was, like... I was, like, why the fuck are... I forget what was on ESPN 2 but something was on ESPN 2 that I wanted to watch and on ESPN 1 was college women's college softball and I was like why the fuck is that on ESPN 1 and this thing I want to watch on ESPN 2 this is clearly bigger

and everyone's just like hey you fucking idiot no it's not here's the college college the women's college world series dwarves that and I was like okay so just because I watch watch, just because you don't watch it doesn't mean no one watches it. And I think that's people's immediate reaction to things. Like when Scream 6 comes out, I'm like, who the fuck is still watching these? Millions of people. They are. I'm watching Scream 6 tonight.

I'm going to see it this weekend. Because Scream 6 is a bad example because I have actually come back on to Scream. But the Scream 3s, 4s, I was like, no one is still but like the Scream 3's 4's I was like no one is still seeing yeah there's a reason they're still making them it's like France and the Furious people would say that and you'd be like

I live and die for this it's gonna make a billion dollars opening weekend I mean except for the World Baseball Classic fuck that but like there's

there's just so many people and so many interests and so many so many people are doing different things you guys know Impulsive right yeah um so we met george jenko the other night he was at the jonas ballers concert which and he was like so him and his

girlfriend they were the nicest people like they were so freaking nice and we were talking to them before and after the show and we um he was like she's never been to time square like where and we're like just turn left like We'll walk down the street with you And a lot of the girls That were at the Jonas Brothers show It's a big crossover So they were stopping us Taking pictures

That's gotta be a beautiful house Was it a Sorry again Was it a Jonas Brothers show I saw you doing a playbill too It's at Marquee Theater So they're doing Five Nights on Broadway

So it's a concert It's a concert In Broadway Two and a half hours on Broadway It's insane That's cool And We were like And like getting stopped whatever and he was like what is going on he was like this is crazy like he was like are you guys i love that and i was like oh it's just like we're like pretty you know because you're california you're big on

the west coast oh you're you're he's big everywhere impulsive he's big everywhere and i was like we're just pretty big on the east Coast is like the demographic. But it was pretty cool. That's the weirdest existence to live in is when you are in a certain circle, like ultra famous, legit. Like people will like, you know, you've seen it. You take pictures of someone and their hands are like shaking as they put their arm around you. I'm always like, I'm not that special. I'm like, please.

I promise. But then someone will walk right by and be like who the fuck is that that is such a mindfuck because it used to just be like you're either famous or you're not back in the day you made it on tv everybody knows you if you didn't nobody knows you now it's like i i am like a dungeons and dragons master or something and you're like the most important person in the world that is the worst when you're with someone though though. Not the worst, but there's definitely a level of uncomfortability when you're with someone who's in a different circle. And you're in that circle. And you're like, fuck, I look like an asshole right now. I think what's interesting, too, is that. Yeah, I'll take the picture.

Sure. I was at the airport recently. And this girl was like eyeing me up and down I was with my sister and this girl was like kept eyeing me up and down and she came up to me and goes you look like somebody who could take a really good picture can you take this picture of me and my mom

and I was like fuck yes absolutely I'll take this picture but my sister was dying that's almost an honor too though I was like I'll take that I look cool enough or good enough to take a picture but But my sister was dying. She was like, that's almost an honor too. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, I'll take that. I look cool enough or good enough to take a picture. Yeah. But I think what's interesting here about the people here is that we don't go to like

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talking um you're like yeah you've been rambling the whole time. But I love talking to people, but small talk at these little events, what do you do? What do you do? And then you do the same one to all of them. It's just put a bullet in my head. Kevin and I had to go to one influencer event once. It was for a TBS show called Wrecked, I think.

Shipwrecked or something like that. Shipwrecked, maybe. Oh, I remember seeing you guys do this. We were with Helen Owen. Yes, yes, I remember this. And everyone was so, I guess at that stage, people were just like, what are they? And maybe they were pushing us, marketing us as influencers,

which we're obviously not. And so we're at this event on like a barge. Talk about wasted money, man. That's made to look like an island. And it's tons of influencers, all very good at being influencers. Like we said, Helen Owens there. Helen Owens is the only one I remember. And we had no idea what to do.

We didn't have a camera crew. We didn't have any producers with us. It was just us and a phone. And we're like, we don't do anything. We talk into microphones, and then people make it look good. We don't know how to do this at all. So what we just started doing was

we just followed Helen Owens and just took the same pictures as her. I remember this. Sometimes I think, man, Dave got really lucky in that all the early people he hired were all pretty cool and nice, really hardworking, pretty loyal, really loyal, and so it all worked out

but I'm like that can't be luck so like something must have been going on here something that he did that set the tone and then that we did at that office that like set the tone that it was like we don't go to those things because we don't need to go to those things and we do it this way but it was never I was never like

no no no we don't do that like I just didn't get invited I probably would have gone to stuff but we just didn't the fact that we don't get invited let's be clear i want to go to google to be clear like maybe if i got invited to some things but at the same time like i'm not dying because i bet if we asked if we could go i'm sure people would like fall over themselves at this point if you guys went to someone like can we come to your award show or something they'd be like oh my god yes

we didn't think you would even like oh that was a big one too people's choice that happened within like a month of starting our podcast and we were like what the fuck so that was what was cool too is like you could see how much it was just girls and people that like that stuff dying for that kind of content, you know?

It's like I like Barstool and I put up – like I listen to John and Kevin and I'll listen to them like talk about the Mets and the Bruins for a little while because then they'll get to like the entertainment stuff and I like that or whatever. But then it was like wait a minute there are these girls who talk just like me who talk just like those guys the same sort of like funny shit but they're just gonna do all all the stuff I like you know like and then I and then it just I mean right floodgates what I love now um because I will say I love pop culture obviously that's why we started that you were really into in the beginning like I wouldn't well I was into it and that's why we started that you were never really into it in the beginning right

I was into it and that's where me and Fran became friends because we would talk about it I thought like the Bachelor the Bachelor no the Bachelor no we actually got into

a huge fight in the middle of the office the other day me, Fran, Keegs and Trent were screaming at each other because I was begging to be cut from cutting stems like I was like you've been asking this for years yeah I was like fire me off this Cutting Stems. Like, I was like, fire me.

You've been asking this for years. Yeah, I was like, fire me off this fucking show. Was it like a real fight? No, it was real. But I think more and more we are incorporating more just like lifestyle. Like, the beginning of the podcast, we just talk about our lives and like funny stories, which is like my favorite thing to do. Yeah, yeah. Is to talk about myself.

No, but I just love like laughing and making people laugh and hearing other people's funny stories and just life and relatable things. And like, that's why I love all the comedians that you guys have on your podcast, because I think they're so funny. Like, I mean, when Tim Dillon did the rant about his aunt, like I was like, that's so relatable to my life. Like thinking about if one of my fucking aunts commented something like that. I just, I relate to that stuff. So I love doing that now in Checks in the Office where it's like, yes, I love pop culture. We'll talk about that.

Also talk about our lives. Also what's important about that is that's like truly original content because nobody else is talking about that. You can get a lot of opinions on The Bachelor, but Rhea's story about like her dog and blah, blah, blah. It's like, you can only get that like right and as long as people find it relatable we'll keep doing it if people are like you're talking about yourself too much in this we

don't care then I won't but like people do people like to relate and they like to hear other stories that remind them of something but with the bachelor stuff I never watched the bachelor until uh started working here and everyone was like the bachelor is really big and then fran was like you gotta start watching the bachelor and it was very smart very smart by her to be like watch bachelor like whatever so we started watching it and at first i was into it i was like whoa because i have never seen it before so i was like this is interesting like whatever and there were a couple really good seasons and a couple really big, you know, like Tyler was a huge name that came out of it. And like Hannah Brown.

And like that was like when the Bats are popped off. Pilot P. Like he he ended up with one girl, dumped her, ended up with another one, dumped her and now is still dating the other. Like there were some really good seasons. It just is it has fallen off tremendously in my eyes and i find it to be painful to watch at times i i used to watch like those those seasons because it did seem like this is extra dramatic and then i was like this is the same thing over i have and i don't think you're wrong with that. I have found it to become somewhat painful to watch sometimes because I'm like, I don't care to have – I don't have a strong opinion about this.

So how am I going to go talk about it when I don't have an opinion? Like I don't want to just make up an opinion just to make something up. Like I don't like this show necessarily. I mean I love to hate it. Sometimes I love it. But that's the bar stool. We don't fabricate we're not fake like we might be over the top and crazy but it's like I actually do have an opinion on this you'll never catch me faking like a whole uh liking a whole thing

right I just can't and I like you could see it on my face when I don't like something or someone like I'm just it's hard to hide and I it's bad sometimes they're good sometimes but for weeks now well since before this season started i was like guys cutting like come on like this season like what are we doing like whatever i don't even know who the bachelor bachelorette is anymore it really depends on the person so i was like he's so boring like why are we doing this like i don't want to do it you got and i say to them like you guys are really fucking good at this the three of you together have really great opinions and are really good at breaking down this show i don't think i fit into that and they're and each week

i'd be like guys kick me off just kick me off like please just kick me off and then this week i i blew my lid for a minute in our texting office studio, which is quite small. Because something came up and I was like, I don't want to fucking do this show. Like, I got really mad. And Fran was like, then fucking don't do it. Like, each week you keep saying you don't want to do it, then just don't do it. Because for a while they were like, you have to do it. You have to do it.

You have to do it. And I kept pressing their buttons until they were like, don't fucking do it. So then we – Damn, getting spicy. It was. Which is fun, though, because I were like, don't fucking do it. So then, Damn, getting spicy. It was, which is fun though because I was like, this keeps us alive.

Like, we're always good, me and Fran, so it's like, when we get feisty with each other, it's funny because five minutes later I'll be like,

whatever, I'm back on the show. So, we, that would be a funny bit actually, like, all right, I quit.

We were in the office and Fran was telling Kelly and Trent that I wasn't going to do cutting stems anymore. And she was like, she wants to be off the fucking show then let her be off the fucking show. And I was like,

I don't want to fucking watch this show. And they were yelling at me and they were like, you know what? You don't quit, you're fired. Like we're done with you. You're not allowed on the show. And this was like real though

or like people were laughing? This was real. Like partially real. Trent and Kelly were probably laughing, like more joking, but like me laughing? This was real. Like partially real. Trent and Kelly were probably laughing like more joking but like me and it was real between me and Fran

and then they were like when we're because we've been doing it over Zoom this season because it's not sold. Usually Cunning Sam's is sold. It wasn't this season

but the next two are so we'll have like a nice set and everything but we didn't have it this time so we did it over like Zoom which kills me. I hate Zoom shit. I hate Zoom podcasts.

I hate Zoom. Like I'm I am just the chemistry is not there so they were like when we're back in the office watching every monday night eating our dinners and stuff like you know you love that you know you love like some good camaraderie like that and i was like no i'll be fine like i'll be really comfortable and then i literally left the office and went on a 40-minute walk alone in the rain with my headphones on. Because I was like, am I doing the right thing? Or have I just been pushing their buttons because it's fun to push their buttons? I don't even know if I want to do the show or don't want to do the show. I don't know anymore.

And so I went for a 40-minute walk. And during the walk, I was like, you're being such a brat. Just do the show. and during the walk I was like you're being like such a brat like just do it though I was like just do the show like you're the season has two weeks left just finish the show if you don't want to do it next season don't do it but you probably want

to because it's in person and you we have such a funny time and I texted them and I was like I'm gonna I'm gonna finish that season guys and they're like yeah we know we anticipated this that is a very

a very good trait to have though I think like so many people dig their heels in will never like

admit when they're wrong or go back on what they say or whatever to just be able to be like alright I was being crazy like whatever sometimes I think I'm too self-aware.

Like, I overthink every aspect of everything I do sometimes. Or like, I think I'm like too self-aware. Like, I wish I had lacked self-awareness sometimes because I'm like, I'm thinking way too much. Like, yeah, I know all of you call me fat out there. I wish I didn't.

You know what I mean? Like, I just sometimes I'm like. Ignorance is the list. The people out there who just like go to work, go home, have their wife or husband, whatever, their kid, and they're just like, I don't know, whatever. They're the happiest people in the world. I say it all the time. I'm

annoying. I'm obnoxious. I have a really loud, annoying laugh. I'm aware of all these things. Whatever you don't like about me, I like less. I promise you that. But sometimes it works. Sometimes I do like it. That's just where we're from. You know what I mean?

I had a moment probably like halfway through my career where I had to come to understand that just my existence, someone from the Midwest probably looks at me and they're like, fuck that guy. Where I would be like, because as much, I'm so polarizing at work, but in my personal life, I don't know anybody that really has a problem with me. I'm always welcome at places and I've never had any drama in real life. I have friends, they like everybody. And I'm like, whoa, what's that about? It's like, well, because I'm a loud mouth New Yorker, I'm opinionated, I'm yelling. Even the way I dress, the way I look, the things that I like, there's somebody who's just like, well, what's that about? You know, it's like, well, because I'm a loud mouth New Yorker. I'm opinionated. I'm yelling. Even the way I dress,

the way I look, the things that I like. There's somebody who's just like, I hate that. And you're not going to win that person over. They're never going to like you. Right. And you start to realize,

like, you grow up around certain things. People have personal tastes, like, and that's okay. Right. It's not an indictment of you. It's also one of those things, like, you ever hear somebody say, like, you don't want everyone to like you.

Oh. That's just. It's to like you. That is my favorite cop out in the world. When people are like, no, you know what? I don't want everyone to like me. That means I'm boring. Yeah.

No, everybody wants... That means you're cool as shit, dude. You know the really popular kid in high school? Yeah, he was super boring. Everybody wants everybody to like them.

Or when you say, I don't care if it's good or bad, as long as they're saying something about it. popular kid in high school? Yeah, he was super boring. Yeah. Everybody wants everybody to like them. Or when you say like, you know, like, I don't care if it's like good or bad as long as they're saying something about it. It's like, no. I don't want that at all.

All publicity is good publicity. Yeah, yeah. No. Not necessarily. No, it's not. Not necessarily. Like, if you don't have a hater, like, what was it?

Haters in your marketing team? Yeah, everyone going around going, don't listen to this fucking guy. Yeah, that really works. Yeah, like, if you don't have haters, you're like, haters in your marketing team, like, yeah, everyone going around going, don't listen to this fucking guy. Yeah, that really worries me. Yeah, like, if you don't have haters, you're not doing something right. It's like, mm. I do believe that.

The only one that's true is the Reggie Jackson. They don't boo nobody. That is true. But that, I think that only applies to sports. I don't know. I don't think people take the time to hate on, blindly hate on non-successful podcasters, influencers, whatever. whatever like there's some part that's like they are successful and i don't like that but i still don't like i'd rather

you not boo me i'd rather be like brady's last season everyone's like fuck this guy's pretty great but there's something cool i think like when you're like a jake paul and people boo you like he feeds off that well it depends on who you are. He's like, yes. The thing is, there are people who say that. 99% are just saying. And there are people who live it. Yeah. And even Jake Paul, I think, by now, I think he's probably so rich and successful. But it's human nature, if you're coming up that way, to be like, well, I mean, I wish

everybody liked me. It does hurt. It must hurt a little bit. As much as somebody says it doesn't hurt, it does hurt. Dude, when Jake got booed at the Quicken Loan Center or whatever it's called, that's your hometown. You don't want to be booed

by an arena in your hometown. Drake got booed at the Tyler the Creator concert. It's fucking Drake. He's like, I'm getting booed. I genuinely love those moments because it makes me realize

that I'm going to stop worrying because if fucking Drake... Drake is objectively the coolest dude in the world and people are like you're a loser then like you just have to come

to terms then you can't win you know you cannot please but no matter how many times you say it it won't change it either like you'll still have that

you'll still have that voice you have to be like god damn it I always say just don't if you don't change what you're doing the people who say

I don't notice it I don't see it I don't read it it doesn't hurt my feelings I see it I read it it hurts my feelings I don't like it but what I don't notice it I don't see it I don't read it It doesn't hurt my feelings I see it I read it It hurts my feelings I don't like it

But what I don't do is say Okay I'm gonna stop doing the show Because those guys said so You know what I mean As long as you keep doing you And you're successful But to be like

See I can't even do that Like that Like Well I don't know I mean It's like You're still here bud Yeah but I

I just like I just make sure I don't see it. Sometimes it's unavoidable, though. Yeah, there are the times you see it and you're like, fuck, I didn't mute it fast enough. Well, I was telling you that people will keep my Instagram DMs open because a lot of girls will DM and just talk about random shit. I like responding to them. But then there'll be an asshole. See, I can't do that either.

You're on your own, guys. There'll be an asshole who comes in and sends me the stuff that people are saying about me they're like did you see this and i'm like no i didn't thanks i didn't see it but what i think you guys are both good at and i probably should have learned earlier on but i have really learned now was everyone always said like don't respond to the people trolling you like don't respond to the people trolling you just don't do it whatever and you hear that and then you go oh like my response is going to be like even better and i'm gonna like own them and i'm gonna get a bunch of likes and retweets it's like what is that and then right and then you do it and you're like why did I respond to this fucking person who all they wanted was a response? And now I gave that to them.

And then I just opened the door for people to either agree with me or agree with them. And now I'm seeing even more of it when if I just ignored that one comment, I wouldn't see anymore. So I have, I think in the past year probably, haven't responded to anybody saying, you know, like, objectively mean shit. Like, you're fat, you're ugly, you're this, you're that. Like, when it comes to, like, why did you do this on the podcast or say this? Yeah, that's different. That's different. Like, explain, like, oh, I said this story because of this. I think that's totally different.

Those are, like, our actual fans. People don't say that kind of shit to people who are fat and ugly and all that okay so there was a girl here who was just a bigger girl who was on a podcast no i mean there would also yes there would be like the truly evil people but they don't you don't say that shit like you wouldn't repeatedly over and over and over again say it because you know sometimes i'm like is it true is it not true but i don't really care that like i like you said you care but it doesn't influence but it does not affect me you know what i mean like of course i'm like i mean man that's objectively you're not an ugly fat girl

we know what ugly and fat girls look like unfortunately there are some that suck you're not one of them you know thank you but it you know people really try i mean they hammer it i know i was saying to you that before this started, like, when something doesn't bring you down, trolls will try to find another avenue. They're like, all right, well, those didn't work. Switch gears, yeah. Calling her ugly didn't work. So let's call her fat. Like, let's try something else here and see if that one gets her.

And, like, I'm aware of it, but I'm not going to like stop what I'm doing. So you've lived like your whole adult life and even like half of like your late like kid life on the Internet. You've had public relationships on the Internet. You went down the avenue that like I went when he went like where you talk about your family and like show your family and they're a part of it all would you like do it differently if you could go back no not at all i like sometimes i think i would i wouldn't i think everything i did happen for a reason like i truly believe that i'm the happiest i have ever been in my life like and i think the people in my own life like like not just work here, but like my family are so like they call me like everyone. They're like, we're just so like we could just see it.

Like you're just like you're like fucking earned it back to like who you because everyone has like the before you started a barstool person. Right. Where your family goes, you know, like before you started working there, like you didn't care about anything. And they'll just say, like, you're back to yourself in a way. That's a cool journey. Yeah. A journey. Yeah, it is. No, but I think the part where you mentioned where it's like I've been seeing myself on camera since I was just turned 19.

Now I'm 25 now. You grow a lot, especially women. You become a woman. Yeah, for sure. I was 19. You were a girl. I was a fucking baby, like, especially women, like, you become a woman. Like, you know, I was 19, I was a fucking baby, like, teenager.

And, like, when, I also talked about this on Francis' podcast, like, when guys would be like, she was so much hotter when she was 19, like,

when she first started, I'm like, that's fucking creepy. Like, I'm a 25-year-old woman now. my brain is fully developed, and so is that ass. Both things are developed and I love it. It's also like –

I used to think that way because I started rather young, not young compared to the new people now. But I was 21 and even 21, we weren't really on camera. No, it was all writing. So that was very – And writing is so different because they don't know what you look like sound like whatever like the the i think how it goes is when you write you have like this many fans when you do audio it like this many people like you when you do video like it just as you show more of yourself there's just more for people to hate right and i mean if you're wildly talented and all that shit it probably goes the opposite

direction but for someone like me it it just whittled it down. It was just like, nope, nope, nope. But I knew that. I knew writing was my best strength and then second came audio and then a distant third was video. But I was like, I know where this is going and if you're not one of those people, you're not going to make money.

I remember I don't know who said it, probably my brother said it to me, being like reading Reddit and going through all this shit you are going to make less money because you are going to be less successful at this job and i was like and because you're gonna you're gonna want to do less yeah when you see people and i was like that really made it like like that grow the fuck up make your money handle your business and don't let anybody get in the way of you. The way I like found Barstool was your writing, like your blogs. Like straight up.

I didn't know who you were. Right. But I knew – this is actually so bad. So this is before I was an intern and I found out what Barstool was. And I would read your blogs all the time and I followed you on Twitter. And you started writing less. And was like what the hell and I would go on the website and be like where's this guy's blog like where'd this guy go and then I remember being like who the fuck is Nate like I would see like Nate's blogs and like I'd be like these are

good but like what happened to that KFC guy like he was writing all these blogs where'd they go and that was just like Way before Like I only knew Like a little bit Like now I remember We got to a point Where there was

There was a Probably like a peak Where we had the most People working That were still blogging You know Because then Like we have a ton of people

But not everybody blogs But having everybody blog It was You could post something And within a minute It was off the front page Because there was just Ten blog and i was like no one read that no one even saw that that was it's just it's like it never fucking happened and the blogging is uh we've said again probably pretty often it's a lot harder than people like it's so much more time consuming

than you realize it and it's not like the blog itself really isn't like the blog pictures the videos and the tags. You guys wrote like some really good staple blogs though. You know, like ones that you think back on and you're like you remember them. You know what I – Not just like the quick. Sometimes I wonder – It's become more of like a quick, you know, thing.

I think to myself – Because everything is more short form. Right. You have to get – yeah. People's attention spans are like this. But I also think I'm like I already did that. I already covered that topic. Yeah. It's like, bro, you wrote attention spans are like this. But I also think, I'm like, I already did that. I already covered that topic. Yeah.

It's like, bro, you wrote that 15 years ago. Right. People who read that are dead. It's a whole new generation of people that probably would still laugh at a blog about, like, evergreen shit. Obviously, topics, that doesn't count. But, like, I wrote a blog about my family. I wrote a blog about, like, Little League sports.

I wrote a blog about high school, right? And it's like, those, I don't talk about that anymore because i've already done that it's like no you should probably talk about that shit again because there's a whole new cycle of fans but i also feel like i'm like repeating and i don't know it's it's what's really weird is we're like the first generation to really do this job this long you know what i mean you're i mean you will go like your whole life. I remember telling, like by the time Rhea's 30. I said I gotta retire at 30.

Rhea will get a job for like Good Morning America by the time she's like 29. Because she'll have like 12 years experience though. I know, but you know what I mean? I just want to like do this type of thing forever.

Like if I could work at Barstool forever, like that would be great. You'll make enough money and you'll be. Just do this forever. Just talk about whatever forever. You're really good.

There is – I read an article recently. It actually wasn't that good. But the premise was good. It was bad. The article itself was like – you didn't really say anything here. But I forget if it was in the New York or the New York Times or whatever it was. And it was by a YouTuber who started even younger than you and is like – and we've talked about this before how everything is cyclical and how younger people are going to be looking at

him. Like you guys told everyone that and, and it was someone who was a very successful YouTuber. I think they said they had 2 million subscribers. I didn't know the name, but I'm not on YouTube that much. Um, no one watches it then,

but, um, the, uh, and she's like, I regret everything. And I was reading, I was like,

cause I, cause I obviously say a lot of shit and I'm like, I was like, because I obviously say a lot of shit. And I'm like, I was like, fuck, I should probably read this. And I read it, and it just wasn't a good argument for it. Because I was like, I don't know, man. Like, hers was like, I had like, it was like, I had breakdowns in my room on my phone. Like, well, I don't do that. Yeah, I don't feel myself fucking crying. I'm not fucking crazy. Anything I do, I'm just like trying to do, like, tell a funny story.

Trying to entertain people, yeah. I'm not being like, hey guys, here's this fucking... I forget what her breakdown was about, but she had some breakdown. And I was like, yeah, there are probably going to be kids who watch it and be like, you guys fucking shared. You losers. Because that's what our generation is, but the younger generation always thinks...

And I think, I don't know, you're kind of a borderline. Are you Gen Z or are you... I don't know. Whatever you are, you're our generation borderline yeah the but like i think what were you born 97 i think 96 is the is the millennial like cut off yeah all right so you're a gen z-er and but like you're like 91 at heart well i was almost surrounded like by by older people than I am. Not old people.

But I think kids will probably be like, we're not going to say all of that. My mom told everyone that. She's a loser. Usually, I wonder if you guys have this debate and I'm sure you do in your head where you go, am I going to tell this story or am I not? And you land on, I'm going to tell this story.

Most of the time I land on, I to tell this story most of the time i land on i'm telling this story because at the end of the yeah at the end of the day like if i'm gonna make one person laugh i'd rather that than keep this story in my head because it's so stupid something happened to me it's so bad so well something happened to me yesterday well i'll tell the story tell it and it was one of those things that as it was happening i was like i'm gonna have to tell this i was like this is one of those things that somebody would keep to themselves because it's embarrassing right but i'm gonna tell it to the world and so i'll tell it here and i'm not proud of it at all but uh a couple maybe like a month or so ago i was in florida and my sister and i went to the mall

and we got back to the car and she went into the back seat grabbed something out of the back seat got into the front seat and i was like what is that and it was a pee bag like it was a bag that you pee in for girls okay it had like it like it was a pink thing it had like sand at the bottom like full like ladies for guys vagina slit you know like fit the whole thing and like put it on put it in there and then pee in the car and i was like do not tell me you're gonna fucking pee and they're right here right now she goes well i told you to look for a bathroom and you didn't see one and i was like you go go back into the mall and just go to the bathroom she's like no it's fine it's fine we're 20 minutes away from our house

in florida i was like we we're going to get there quick. She's like, I don't want a UTI holding it. I said, then go in there. Like, you're not. We're 20 minutes away. You're not peeing in this car. We got into a fight about it. I was like, you're a fucking disgusting animal.

Like, I was appalled. And we got home. I know where this is going. Whatever. Time passed. I told that on Tix in the office. I was like, my sister's an animal. Yesterday, we were driving Marty and I

were driving from Jersey City to Long Island and I had to go to the bathroom so fucking bad like painful okay and I also was trying to make a hair appointment

and I was I had to go so fucking bad it was crippling and the traffic was just going up and up and up and like you really did it to long island you might as well drive to california no but the thing is it could either be 45 minutes or three hours and we were hitting the three hours and i was like oh my god i'm going i was i became a bad version of myself we called her barbara i was like because this isn't this isn't a fun girl uh i was like really angry and i was getting like irritable and i was like i have to go so fucking bad but we

also can't get out of this traffic it's bumper to bumper we're stuck i have to make this hair appointment because i called them and they were like if you don't make it at this time we can't do you so i was like we can't stop because we're right on time like we're gonna make it like five minutes like we can't do this and he's like, you got to just try to go and something in here. He's like, you got to just take a water bottle. I don't have a dick. It's not like I can just point it in and it's going to go. I don't even know where pee comes out of with the vagina.

I have no idea what hole it's coming out of. It's just sprinkling out. I have no idea. It's a le out. Like, I have no idea. Leaky faucet. It's a leaky faucet. I have no idea where it's coming out of. So I'm like, I guess I'll try the water bottle. Like, I really don't want to, but I guess.

And we're, like, so close at this point that there's. And I never thought that I would be comfortable. I don't even like talking about, like, bathroom stuff. Like, I hate that stuff. But for some reason with us, I just am so comfortable. We're so comfortable. And so I was like,

all right, I think I'm going to try. But not the pee thing. Just like a water bottle. No, water bottle. I didn't have the pee thing. And in my head, I was like,

I fucking wish I had this pee thing. It was like an episode of Curb where I was like, I don't have the fucking pee thing. So I had a normal size Poland Spring water bottle. I'm like trying to like. That's hard.

I'm like trying to like fit my clit into like the water bottle. Like I'm like, like literally like trying to like bundle it up into like, you know what I mean? Like it's just like, I just, I'm trying to figure it out. So I'm like, I don't even know where the pee fucking comes out of. I'm sorry. Like, I'm just like, you know,'m i'm like bent over like in the front of this you know like say like this is the seat yeah i'm like here like turned around and i'm like really trying to focus like i'm like really really trying to focus. Like I'm like really, really trying to focus. And every time, you know, because we're stopped in traffic.

So it was like. Stop moving. Somebody told me that if you have trouble peeing, because I would get stage fright. Like I get stage fright in the bathrooms here. Like if I'm going to pee and I hear somebody else come in. Start doing math equations in your head. So I'd start doing like 56 plus 64. And I would like almost get there.

And then he'd go. And I'd be like, fuck, stop moving. And then I was like, you know what? This whole thing isn't going to work. Like I don't – I'm too afraid to pee on my hand. Like if I go and I get it on my hand, it's going to be a problem. And so I took my keys and I carved out like a little like slit into the water bottle. You made your own pee thing.

I made my own pee thing and I was like I'm starting to go and I'm like oh my god oh my god it's about to be in my hand and he was like it's fine baseball players do it all the time I was like what? that's a man right there

he was like they pee on their hands for the grip I just stopped I couldn't get MLB. He was like, they pee on their hands for the grip. And I was like, I just stopped. I couldn't get the rest out. I was like, okay, what are you talking about?

But he was like, I was trying to help you. They go the whole game with the pee on their hands. It's okay. If you have it on your hands, you'll get to the salon, you'll wash it off. It's going to be fine.

And it just, I was disappointed in myself that I couldn't complete the mission. So wait, you peed a little bit and then cut off? A little bit. You made it home? A little drop got on my hands, and I freaked out, and it turned into the whole baseball conversation.

And I had hand sanitizer in my car, thank God, because I would have been freaking out. And then finally, like, I sprinted into the salon. Bro, when you said you're Clint, I just passed out. That is fucking hilarious. I was like, I don't out. That is fucking hilarious. It was true. I was like, I don't know where it's coming from. It was funny you say that.

The story, that's an unbelievable story. You have to tell that. Yeah, as it was happening, he sent a picture of me and I was like, as this is happening, we both know

we're going to talk about this. The one positive about Barstool, well, there's many positives, but one big thing is when normal people go through bad shit, they just go through bad shit. It sucks. When we go through bad shit, it's like, I got my show for the day. I'm almost excited. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's a perversion. Right. Fuck yes! I would rather this go poorly than... I put myself in positions where I might die. So I'm like, if I survive, this is going to be a good story. Even all of our sports teams sucking. It's like all those other fans, they lose and then that's it.

I'm like, I don't know. I'll put a fucking... I'll sell some t-shirts. I'll have an episode over this. You can turn anything into a positive. I was talking to someone the other day about a blog they wrote. And they were like, I just don't know if the risk is worth the reward in posting this. And I was like, well, that's every funny thing ever.

Because guess what? The reward for something funny is someone going, that's pretty good. The risk is you get fired. The risk is literally almost always higher than the reward. Like, oh, I'm going to get a bunch of retweets or whatever. But what it is is when you add up all those rewards like it can be a career yeah and if you evade the risks like you can make it big i will say the one place where i learned like the risk and reward thing was twitter that it's

never worth it like i was like you say i have if you ask someone is this worth it the answer is i basically completely stopped tweeting yeah I've just given like – I feel like everyone's kind of been like, it's somehow worse. It was always bad, but it's worse. So we're going to try to do this Barstool, New York thing. And soon enough, I want to try to have like a meeting of sorts with like everybody who's staying here. And I kind of want to – I'm pumped, by the way.

Yeah. I kind of want to like try to institute like two rules. One being like everybody should like like two rules one being like everybody should like collaborate with each other and like be cool with each other and then I was thinking what if we all fucking quit Twitter like the company

has said to us a million times like you can send a billion tweets we make no money off of this it doesn't help promotion what if I just said every time you're about to open Twitter do it on Instagram like write your tweet on a story and post it there like just everybody try to get off twitter i don't know if i can do it i don't know i'm gonna be the number one culprit yeah but if like you're not on and i'm not on he's not on maybe it won't be like the place to

share all your shit it is the correct move and i't know if I, it's like we were talking earlier with like the money. Like you're like, yeah, you'll make less money. I know. I can't stop. Right. Right. I know. It's the only thing where you get the fucking dopamine hit of like.

But I don't even know. I actually don't get that anymore. I don't think I do. I think, I think the absence of it will fuck with me, but I don't get the rush of doing it anymore. It's like any other drug. It's like the high goes away. You're just now doing it to maintain. I'm the stank. I'm wearing gold pants

and your boy is sweating. That was the hottest sweatshirt I've ever worn in my entire life. I've also lost so many followers at this point on Twitter that I'm like... But that doesn't matter. No, that's why I'm like... I've given up on this place. I go on...

My new social media idea is an app called No Mentions. There's no mentions. You can post and you can follow your own timeline so you can see other people's content. There's nobody adding you. Yeah. I would love that. Honestly, that's a good idea.

And John Mayer said this once on his – remember he used to do Current Mood? Yeah. For some reason it has stuck with me if I'm ever, like, lately, like I said, in the past year, I've, like, really gone to, like, I feel like I've had a couple big things happen here where you have to not care or else you're going to lose your mind. And so, but if I'm ever in, like, a place

where I'm, like, thinking about it too much, he said that nobody was ever supposed to have this much access to everybody. Like, that is not how the world was built. place where i'm like thinking about it too much he said that nobody was ever supposed to have this much access to everybody like that is not how the human brain was built that's not how humans were supposed to be made five people a day like total think about it there was a point where technology was not a thing at all people just talked and they just found their way to somebody's house it was just you talked to like your siblings yeah and you met one boy or girl and you married them and maybe and like your kids and that was nobody was supposed to have this much access to other humans which i think is important to remember like it's not natural it's not normal

but it is what's happening and i i get that and i and i do agree with it but also like humans weren't supposed to be six feet but then we have to change the door frames you do change i mean you do evolve but this one seems like it. Get a little high and start thinking about that. Speaking of high, just remember I used to smoke all the time. I was going to say, you said that earlier and we kind of moved on quick. You don't smoke weed anymore? Haven't smoked since September.

Really? Not one single puff. Wow. Why? What changed? I was smoking for probably like seven years or more. You were Blunt Thotty. Yeah, I went by Blunt Thotty.

I know, and I'm embarrassed. The song still hits, though. But I was smoking when I woke up in the morning, before I took a shower, before I walked out the door, before I ate my lunch, before I ate my dinner, before I got in the shower, before bed, before bed, before I watched a TV show. That is so much weed. There was a point where Robbie Fox and I were smoking full blunts in the, you know, balcony over here in the office

in the middle of the day. I would be. I was going to say, like, I can't smoke unless I'm in bed. I have a joint and I'm sleeping. And we would walk back into this office with full confidence, probably reeking, and just didn't think anything of it. And it just became a thing that I – it just became a habit of mine where, like, people say you can't get addicted to weed. You can because I was. Like, I had to smoke before everything.

If I found out that I wasn't going to have weed somewhere, I was finding my way. Like, I was – I had to have weed wherever I was going. And I just stopped. Did you just go whole turkey? Yeah. Because, I mean, it's not addictive in that sense. I started smoking, okay, after the first time I took shrooms. Or, well, it was the first time I.

I'm going to read this real quick. Sorry. It's our boy Jinx, the crack connoisseur. Had a tweet. It's Christmas on fucking Christmas 2021. He goes, stoners be like, I'm not addicted to weed. I can stop any time. Then drive through a blizzard on Christmas Eve to grab an ape so they don't have night terror. That's literally it.

I'd be like, no, I'm not addicted. I just enjoy doing it before every moment of my life and so i did shrooms probably twice like mildly and then fran and i went to california and we and well she didn't do them i know but i did a bunch of shrooms and that literally changed my life i've talked about it before we're like got on the plane home and i was like oh my god like my i saw things clear like i was like holy fuck and then since that time i started smoking weed less and less but i would still smoke every day like it would kind of be like i'd smoke only after work and at night or like when i was going out like still smoking every day and then it kind of stayed like that for about a year. And then in September, I was getting weed from this bodega, like a random ass fucking place in New York City. And I think there was some shit in there because I smoked and I completely freaked out.

And I was seeing things that I like. It was bizarre. And it was bizarre and i and it it was it was not good and before that i had been smoking and getting a little like anxiety which i was always like i'm never gonna be the person that like gets anxious when i smoke and it started happening and i was like oh my god i'm becoming it's happening yeah And then since this day in September, I threw everything that I had out. I was like, fuck this. I hated the way I felt.

I hate, I took a nap. I forced myself to take a nap, woke up, and I was like, I fucking hated that. And I threw everything out, and I haven't smoked since, and I feel amazing. Like, my brain is crystal clear. I love drinking. Like, I love going out out drinking um but i love my sober brain like i love my day-to-day sober brain i love my life like i'm seeing things so clearly like i just i love it and anti-floweria gonna move to texas

and also trans should have rights i'm all for it I'm pro weed I can't not be but eventually I probably will again but just not like that and I'm almost nervous too again because I'm like if I smoke one time am I going to be like man this is nice

I'm just going to smoke it every day but I will I'm not like anti-weed. I will eventually probably dabble. It ebbs and flows. Yeah, as of now, I just love it. And then when you get older, you just do every drug imaginable and die. Yeah, well, I said if I'm 85 and I'm still alive, I'm doing heroin.

That's how we should all go out. Everybody should die of a heroin overdose. So this is sad, and I probably shouldn't be talking about it, but I will. My parents, they – so my grandpa lives in Florida, and when my grandma died, became my mom and my aunt's house. I don't know why I'm even explaining that because I say my house in Florida because it's technically – but my grandpa lives there. And they go from January to, June and then whatever so they're spending a lot of time there and there's a community there's a pool it's very nice they go to the pool every day they meet a lot of new people and I was there last week and my dad was like ah I was at the pool yesterday and

you know he said the guy's name old guy like 90 something years old came to the pool and I see him all the time I said how you doing today and he said not good Mike not good um you know I'm I'm really depressed and I'm like really thinking about ending it and my dad was like like trying to like talk him out of it basically. And he was like – and I left basically being like, don't do anything. I hope to see you here tomorrow. And I was like, why doesn't he just do heroin? He's 90-something years old.

Alone. You don't have any responsibilities. And he wants it to end. Yeah. Just start dabbling in some things. Either it's awesome or you achieve your goal. Like, see what it feels like. Right.

That may be horrible to say, but if you're 90-something years old and you are in your head going, I'm done with my life, just try it out. It's hard to convince a 90-year-old, like, your best years are ahead of you. What could you say to talk me out of doing something like that? Like, my dad was like, you're still healthy. It's why one of my favorite, and this happened fairly recently, and I got to learn this guy's name because he's a hero of mine, a famous French director, but he assisted, not assisted suicide, but whatever they call it, is... Euthanasia?

Yeah, euthanasia. Is allowed, I don't know if it's in France or if he went to Switzerland or wherever he went, somewhere in Europe. And it was just like, this big thing, he's like a very like well-known French director and he died. And it was just like the initial reports were just like he passed away and everyone's like, oh my God, so sad. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then the next day it came out that it wasn't of old age. He committed suicide at a facility where they will kill you for yourself. And his family's only statement was, he was not sick. He was simply exhausted. And I was like, that's a gangster right there. Oh, my God. That's awesome. If you guys have somebody wiping your ass for you, do you just want to be let go? Yeah, dude.

I'll never let someone wipe my ass for me. And, you know, I'm sure something will change when I'm 87. No, but like – I'm not getting there. Get me out of here, bro. Get me – give me a pee bag, whatever. Yeah. You mentioned going through all the shit you went through.

Do you feel like you – I know when I went through my shit which totally different scenarios but just going through shit publicly i i eventually came to a spot that was like probably just like bargaining and and you know in my own head but i was like i will look back on it like when i'm 87 and doing heroin and someone's wiping my ass being like i went through the fucking fire like i went through the ringer i went i came out the other side better for it in some ways worse for it in some ways but like there's plenty of people who go through their life and lucky that nothing really happens and they'll but they also can never say that they experience that you know and it's better it's like we were saying people were like no uh you know it's better to be hated it's like no it's

better just live a happy life but if you do go it, you kind of have this epiphany of like other things don't matter as much. Other haters don't matter as much. Whatever. So did you come out the other side of that in any way being like – not like it was a good thing but like – Oh. Goddamn. It doesn't get much worse than this. Absolutely.

There are times where we're like debating on posting something on chicks in the office whatever i'm like i've already had the worst of it yeah like don't say that i'm like no no i've i've pretty much had i mean it can get worse it can i'm sure but like you have it was pretty bad yeah um but at the end of like like you said like you're better and stuff like at the end of the day we were both and you guys said at the time where you guys like respected the fact that we're like we're both happy like we're happy we did it or whatever which still remains true like to a point where like our families are always like thank god that happened like you know like they're so we're both very family oriented and our families really like

each other and like they'll talk about it and like about it with us. Oh, are you? You two Italians? Yeah. Yeah, don't say it. And we're just almost like it was a blessing in disguise. Yeah. Because it probably also let you be open. Yeah. You would have been hiding

and who knows if that was good for the relationship. Right. It was just like, here we go. Yeah. And in some ways, we've been through a lot more together than a lot of people can say that they have like we like weathered the storm together and we came out the other side and like we're still together and still happy and

people come up to us be like oh really happy to see you guys like didn't break up like yeah well we wouldn't have done that if it wasn't for a good reason you know like i we didn't do that for no reason so let me ask you this if you if shit went down and let's say you guys weren't like all about each other the way you are would you have like i think i would have been stubborn and been like listen we're probably like not gonna get married we can't break up now let's stay together for six more months. I'd have gotten married. At that point, it's like Kramer. We're going to the end.

I can see that argument for it, but in some case, I don't think I would have ended my last relationship if I thought like that too because there were a ton of people also being like, that's never going to last. That's never going to last. You caught a lot of that for a long time.

And if I wanted to just be like, fuck you guys, I would have just, you know. Yeah. So I'm like, I can't do that. Like once I'm like not like comfortable or something or happy. It's over. It's over. I'd have been like fucking. Like at this point it is what it is.

Like I've, like you, like you said, I've already seen the worst of it. Like, oh, what are they going to say? You know? Right, right, right. Oh, it didn what it is. Like you said, I've already seen the worst of it. Like, oh, what are they going to say? Right, right, right. Oh, it didn't work out. Like, whatever. That's far less than whatever. It's funny, though, because things – I started cracking up the other day to myself because there's just some ridiculous fucking things that happen here, right? And you just see some things and you just i know everybody's thinking like i know like if i were to text you guys like you would agree with

me about something right like if you see something you just like shake your head whatever but i started cracking up to myself the other day i was like jerry and rico sat marty down on camera and said we have to distance ourselves from him. That's fucking hilarious. I would have been like, what the fuck is going on? If you break it down and look back on the situation, it's like, those two said they got to distance themselves from him? It's just really fucking funny. Especially with what unfolded five minutes later. It is one thing.

People who don't have inside information always always are gonna have opinions like we're watching reality tv you're gonna be like but people like who know full stories it's like and not even full stories but also just like the other fucking disasters that are in this office and that was the big thing where it was like i just – I was like, you know what? I'm just going to like take this beating for what it is because at the end of the day, like did I expect Dave and everyone to be like, yeah. Like no. I did not expect that. and you have certain like truths that you know will help your cause and you just swallow it and take the beating because it's inappropriate or it's just not how you roll or it would fuck up somebody else's life or whatever there's something very like mature about that and something like you

grow as a person where it's like i could i could change this whole fucking script right now but i'm not gonna because that's just not what I do. And then you – honestly, you do kind of feel like, well, I'm above all this now. Well, we said to each other at the time, we were like, at the end of the day, we have each other and that's what we wanted. And we could fight back and make ourselves miserable constantly responding to this person and that person and what this person is saying and this and you're never gonna answer every question so if you answer one thing then you gotta answer that and you're just so just let's just keep our mouths shut take the beating of whatever yep let them ride that high of like we're gonna like yeah like the rounds almost over yeah right like we have each other and that's what we wanted.

Are you kids going to get married? Is there going to be a Marty Mush Rio wedding? We talk about it a lot. Do you? Yeah. Yeah? Yeah. It's one of those things where like we've discussed it plenty of times.

I don't think I've ever discussed it with anybody. Really? You say the word. He's like, you say the word, he's like, you just give me the okay. You're going to drop down on one knee one day? But we actually talked about this the other day, because

it's very real. You're beating the car. There's only one more step to go honestly like that's that's a step i don't want to give like too much information but like he's seen it all yeah um and we we were talking about this the other day i won't reveal too much information because like i like to keep some stuff private like i don't know but um we were i was like you know i just don't want and i said any concern i have has nothing to do with you as a person i know i want to be with you there's not one other person

that i want to be with i know that for a fact you know what you like you know what you don't like i know that i love you like that's straight up and he was like yeah like yes like you when you you know like we're a little older now like it's not like early 20s hang on a second no i'm just saying like you know like you've dated people you know what you like you know what you don't like whatever and i was like i have to like not care about because when that day comes there's gonna be a fucking shit ton of people that are gonna say a bunch of things too soon this that the other thing yeah we just have to be comfortable with ourselves that yeah like ordinarily i would fucking probably kidnap you and lock you in a room and stop you from getting married anytime soon because you're so young.

But everything about you is just, like, shifted a little bit because you lived your life differently. It's almost like being, like, Kendall and Kylie. They're, like, 16 years old. It's like, nah, they're, like, billionaires. Like, they run a company. I just feel like my life has gone at an accelerated pace. It really has. And truly, if I was not – Don't rush it.

No, no. If I was not comfortable and I – to me, it's like – this is cheesy, but like why not be with the person that I want to be with for the rest of my life? You never know what can happen to you. That's like the way I live my life. And it's a scary thought, but I think about it all the time. Like you really never know what can happen to you. And we fucking love each other and want to get married so why wouldn't like why wait just because of like people time like you know like like people like yeah like oh like you know too soon don't

rush it like but i would also say the other side of it is like i found that like marriage can just complicate things so if you guys are like over the moon happy right now and like, then just do that because. Right. But also at the same time, if you feel like, so I'm not even second guessing this. Yeah.

If you really, really know that, like why not? Like, and that's kind of how we both are. We're like, it's not even a question. So it's like,

there's no concerns. Like we'll just like, you know what I mean? When it happens, it happens. But I also just, I just don't know like the amount of living and changing that you might do from 25 to 30 maybe maybe things change maybe again like maybe what you feel about marty doesn't change but just like your outlook on life or i mean that's family but if you know you know that's what i have and we'd like to introduce you to commitment issues. See, we don't have commitment issues.

We both have parents that have been together for, like, 30-plus years, like, are very much like his brother is getting married tomorrow. My sister is married. My brother is engaged. Like, we're not scared. Like, we don't have those commitment issues. We're telling. These fucking kids.

There's going to be a thousand people at that wedding. Oh, we've talked about who would be invited and not invited. That's a dicey game at Barstool. I know who liked what. I sent the tweets. It's funny you say we have to just not care. Dude, it doesn't even matter what field I was in. I don't i'd ever get married i'd be like i might have one friend who talks shit about this i might have one friend who says like one person says it's stupid and they might

be right so again commitment issues this show is brought to you by better help getting to know yourself can be a lifelong process especially because we're growing and changing we've been doing that on the podcast for years. I mean, if you listen to us in the early stages of the podcast versus now, you've seen us grow from being dumb, young, single guys to getting married. To being dumb, old, single guys. Pretty much. Yep. Maybe a couple turns in between there for one of us, but, yep, we're back at the same exact spot.

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making people laugh entertaining people when you do your live shows are you nervous i fucking love yeah i feel like i was gonna say i think think I remember Trent telling a story of your first one where he was like beforehand you were like this is either gonna go unbelievable or really bad and you got in afterwards

and you were like we're doing this forever I crave I've just seen the pictures of you like I crave being on stage I fucking love it because there is

no better feeling than a crowd roaring with laughter you're like because you don't hear it when you're talking on the podcast. And so when you say something on stage, I was so nervous before our New York

Christmas show. It was like a thousand people, all of our family and friends were going to be there the whole thing. And I was like, what if I'm not funny? You know when you just have your days, sometimes you're really funny. Sometimes it's coming out, sometimes it's not. That is what's a little bit scary about podcasting. Comedians always know what what they're gonna say and they know it's funny because they rehearsed it you have an off day on podcasting on a live night it could just be boring like

sometimes we put out episodes i'm like i wouldn't fucking listen to that yeah yeah for sure but i was saying that with the new stuff that we're doing where it's like when i have a bad podcast i'm like and i have them obviously i'm like we'll just do another one tomorrow like it's fine no big deal where it's like a live show or like something brand new you're like it's like what and i got on that stage funniest i've ever been i'm not i was saying like i my dad actually i was on the phone with him before i i was in here and i was like i'm going KFC radio goes oh yeah he was like be crazy he's like he's like you say some crazy shit on that show that's important and he he always my dad is a guy who loves a dirty joke and that's like what I grew up on and I got on that stage and I talked about my first blow I I don't know what was coming out of my mouth like I was like

I gave the fucking driest hand job like I was like I don't even know what was coming out of my mouth. Like I was like, I gave the fucking driest hand job. I don't even know what I'm saying right now, but I see my dad cracking up and that's, and that's good for me. Like I was like, I don't have that at all. I can't do that. My dad has like in like very recently, like in the last year started listening. So like I'll go over the house and he'll just, he'll bring up a topic like from the podcast and I'm like, what the fuck is going on?

But prior to that, like nobody, obviously my brother, but everybody else in my family didn't know what I did. So it was just like, that's over here and this is over here. And I like it that way, but I wonder what it would be like if I had a family that was like, go, go, go, funny, funny, funny. Mine has started, my first one when I started Barstool was like, do not read, do not look at, do not look at do not watch do not listen like anything and then like

it kind of got so big where like you can't not like you can't not and also like people are coming to my dad talking about my stuff and he's like

I don't know what the fuck you're talking about so he has watched and I don't think he's ever listened I don't think he knows how to actually I know for a fact he does not know how to

listen to a podcast because I sent him a Bruins podcast recently I was like this is a great show and he's like I don't know what to do and he's like I tried on Apple

I tried on Spotify I can't figure it out I was like okay that's good great show. And he's like, I don't know what to do. And he's like, I tried on Apple. I tried on Spotify. I can't figure it out. I was like, okay, that's good to know. But he texted me this morning. And he was like, the sketch was really funny. Just wondering about the Kill Your Dad thing. And I just went, he's like, it seems like it's about somebody. And I replied, no, we wrote that as a team.

I wrote that. That's hilarious. I'm going to pay someone to kill your dad. I talk about my family all the time, and I know – they're like, say whatever you want. Like, say – like, they – my dad, if I'm not, like, dirty – like, he's like they my dad if i'm not like dirty joke like he's like what about it like he's like what is this boring stuff like what i literally called my dad gay on the podcast i was like we grew up like wondering if my dad's gay because he loves adam lambert like he he loves that stuff why don't we do a reality show with your family they'd be canceled in a second

they're like put us on. I'm like, no, you guys. I would have no career. But they're funny. I mean, when the OnlyFans thing was happening around this office, everyone was talking about it. My dad called me up and he was like, so why aren't you doing this? And I was like, no.

And I was like, I'm drawing a line here, Dad. No. He's like Chris Jenner. Like, he will, like, if any way, any way. Was it you doing great, sweetie? Yeah. Any way to make money, he's in for it. Does it, like, he's like, well, he's, you don't have to get naked.

And I was like, Dad, no, I'm not getting an OnlyFans. Was that ever a consideration? I mean, there was that one day where everyone was like. I mean, you would make, like, so much. Like, when you see some of the other numbers being thrown around, die I mean you would make like so much like when you see some of the other numbers being thrown around and you know you have

like 10 times the following it's like there was a point where Glenn was like he like his friends like the OnlyFans manager he was he asked her like

how much she thinks and she said a number and I was like what'd she say it was like hundreds of thousands and I was like a month right

yeah I was like the fuck and I was like no like what'd she say it was like hundreds of thousands and I was like and I was like no it was like hundreds of thousands who was that? like Glenn knows like an OnlyFans manager person and she whatever and I was like we were joking around and I was like

no like I just was there like I did wonder like amongst the girls who did it and didn't do it was there like not a Katniss but like were you like fuck those girls or were you like I did wonder, amongst the girls who did it and didn't do it, was there like a... Not a kindness, but were you like, fuck those girls?

Or were you like... Honestly, not even fucked up. I was hyped for Kelly Keeks. Anytime Kelly's thriving, I root for Kelly in every aspect of life. I root for Kelly Keeks in every single situation that she is in. And when she was making that money I was like fuck yes I was like I will promote the

fuck out of your OnlyFans like you just say the word I'm retweeting it and I don't mean to say yeah like just as long as I've known Kelly it's been like I don't I'm in debt with my credit card I'm like what the way I phrased it wasn't I didn't mean it like a fuck those girls I meant like

as in like fuck those girls as a person more like a fuck them they're making so much money where is my there was yeah I was like I know I felt it

well yeah I was like man if I just like fucking didn't have this like I don't know I don't even know what it's called if my brain was a little bit different

I could be making right like morals yeah no I mean it is but it's also like I don't look down on people who do it but there's just something in my mind but it's also sometimes I'm wondering look down on people who do it. But there's just something in my mind.

But it's also – sometimes I'm wondering like maybe if all of a sudden you made like a quarter of a million dollars in a month, you'd be like, oh, I don't really care about that morals anymore. Yeah, that's why I don't do it. Morals is a good word. You keep saying it. I don't want it to sound like I'm looking down upon people that – Embarrassment or whatever. Embarrassment, yeah. I don't want it to sound like I'm looking down upon that but I also think

that it must it sounds stupid to say because you're making so much money right? And everyone says money doesn't buy happiness.

It does. If you have a lot of money in some way shape or form it does make your life better because you're fucking poor and struggling you are miserable. But

I do think it can probably be a lonely thing when you are just your life's existence is you just take pictures of yourself naked and have got and you have to interact with them it's really cool at first but then it becomes like what else is there and because i even think about myself with with talking i'm like i'm losing brain cells because all i do is talk about myself and other people. So think about if I was just posting pictures of myself.

Where would my brain go from there? I think it's a different thing of it being your entire existence for something you do, which applies to everything in the world. But I know we follow

plenty of porn stars on Twitter and shit like that. And I know when they'll post a picture, like a candid from their bedroom. And I'm like, are those always up?

They have all the pictures and the fucking, what are these called? Ring lights. Ring lights and all that shit. That's just their existence. It's a different thing being like, here's a picture in the mirror. And obviously, do whatever the fuck you want to do. Give a shit. But the porn stars in particular, the OnlyFans porn stars,

that's just like, you wake up every day, you look at it, and you're like, I'm at work already. That's what would kill me about it. The feeling of like like i have to post a picture i have to fuck myself but i think if you're like if you want to post and get pictures do that like i'm all for that like that's what i think it's actually the exact opposite of morals i think people think it's morals and then they are like i'm gonna do it they make a bunch of money and they're like wait a minute minute. This is not like immoral. You're either comfortable with it or you're not. I mean I post pictures of myself on Instagram.

I say dumb shit into a microphone. People are not comfortable with that. You realize it's really not about if you're a good or a bad person. It's just about your comfort level. Being comfortable. And it's like I wish I was comfortable. People might be fucking rich. Yeah, I think that's the word probably because like I said, I'm not against that at all.

I think it's fucking awesome that a bunch of people out there are just making money off the most random shit. Big money, man. Mine isn't even comfort level. First of all, it's lack of care. It's really the main hurdle I'd have to get over that no one wants to see me. Well, it's also, yeah, no one's going to. Do you think we could make money on OnlyFans? You two together or solo? Well, I know the answer? Start throwing out numbers.

I'll go gay for pay. Do you guys talk to Asa ever? I actually know she has a new documentary out. Oh, yeah? I was watching something on Netflix the other day, and it's called Money Shot. It's the Pornhub story. Of. And it's the Pornhub story. It's the Pornhub documentary. I don't know if it's new or not.

It's on my main page now. I assume it's new. I think it's just about to come out, yeah. It was definitely on it yesterday. But I almost texted her about that, but I haven't talked to her. Yeah, I talk to her every now and then. She's like popping out kids and living them a life. I think about how it was just me and Asa at that time, like before Fran came.

And I have to thank her because I got a lot of followers from her for a little bit because she would just do Instagram lives together. And she would pin my name. And then a bunch of guys would follow me thinking I was a porn star. And I let them know. But it still worked. But that was some time. I mean, that's – I was like really close with Asa Akira at one point.

She called me up on the phone. I'm like, this is crazy. She's one of the best people. I loved her. She's so cool. The fact like when you think of like – so, you know, like I said, by the time you're like – give it five more years, you'll be 30, right? You will have like been an intern, hung out, like been a coworker with a porn star, had these relationships, grew this show, been on billboards, been on stage, but, like, and you're still a baby. I used to have a journal.

By your own words, you're still a baby. You know, you're not old at all, and you've done, like, three careers worth of shit. It's crazy. I used to have a journal that I had at the old office where I'd write down everything that happened to me that day. And it would be like, Lenny Dykstra sexually assaulted me. No, but – Story, unfortunately. But like not really.

What did he do? Oh, my God. Do you remember that day? I remember when he came in. I don't remember what he did with you. He was – If you don't want to talk about it, obviously you don't want to talk about it. No, sexually assaulted was a strong word.

Harass. Harass. Harass was the right one. He was like. Inviting you out. Like, I want to take you on a date in my rocket ship and fucking do this to you. Really? And then he like, memory kills me.

I'm saying really, I'm shocked. You were helping me like. Yeah, I was like, someone's got to stop. You were like. Yeah. Stay away. Like, stand over here. Because he was being like, very bizarre.

I mean, he was out of it. Yeah. Like, me being like like it was it was fine. I got I went home from work be like dad Guess what Lenny Dyches sexually harassed me When you got those Louie's loop. Yes, that was your sense There was a lot of moment to where I was like that either it was early barstool Office number two and you got like a $800 pair of shoes Red bottoms like the right the right size yeah everything and i was like i just i just like saw your feet in a picture and we're like that's a sad i guess and then but i just remember being like don't don't open this door but also like maybe this is the point of having a job like this you get these perks we

shut it down though because i remember on the radio you guys sat me down you're like do you want this to keep happening and I was like no and you guys were like stop doing this it's just funny those are the trials and tribulations

we went through and I had this journal and then when we moved offices I lost it so somebody out there is reading these stories about like hockey players coming in

and like yeah there was some hockey players do you remember when specifically I remember you clipped this video. You were writing just everything in the journal. Mine is basically a codex.

Part handwriting and part just like, what the fuck does this guy even say? I was just writing cool shit that happened at work or this person came in and they said this to me or whatever. I remember when the Maple Leafs came in and they were doing the goalie challenge and I was wearing a pretty dress like a tight gray dress but I had sweatpants on underneath and as soon as

they walked in the door I went like this I took my sweatpants off and you were sitting behind me and you were like I saw that you just fucking slipped your sweatpants off so fast and you you clip the video and you see me like this no shame in that game baby no it's been it's been a dope ride and i it's just crazy i mean i'm a broken record but like you could stop now and it would be like you did a lifetime's worth of shit you know sometimes i'm like the fact that there's worth of shit. Sometimes I'm like, when is it –

So the fact that there's so much time ahead. With the Times Square stuff, I was like, should we get cooler from here? You do start to get numb a little bit, right? I'm like, this seems like the coolest thing that could happen. What else could happen? But yeah, I mean back to your question about happening 20 minutes ago. If you do that kind of stuff when you're early 20s, there's no reason to think movies and TV and appearances and shit like that

are on the table. It's no secret. I literally talk about being a child actor all the time. Somebody's going to know that and put you in something eventually. And I say this over and over again because I'm like, people don't respect me for this. But it is true to a point where there's two things. I had a disease when I was younger,

and I don't think I get enough pity for that. And I don't. What disease is that? It's called HSP. And all the blood vessels in my body burst. And I couldn't walk for like a year. Holy shit. You definitely don't get enough pity.

You got to pop that in the bio. Yeah. Because it's one of those things that's only supposed to last for like a couple weeks or months or whatever. But they couldn't. All of the blood vessels pop. I have pictures you were just color i was white but i had like how old i had three and i had bruises all over my body i couldn't walk and um they couldn't figure out what it was and three i would i would

like kill myself they thought i had uh leukemia so my parents were like if i was your three i would i would like kill myself they thought i had uh leukemia so my parents were like if i was your dad i would kill myself he was they were devastated they thought i had leukemia and i was really sick and i would have um i was put on like a lot of medicine i would have night terrors like my siblings were afraid of me apparently because i was like this little purple demon literally my new sister's a monster. And I say that all the time. I'm like, I don't get enough fucking pity for having a disease when I was younger and not being able to walk. And I also don't get enough credit for starting from when I was eight years old. Child star.

Being driven in and out of the city. My dad would go to work at four o'clock in the morning. He would be done. He was a union guy. He'd be done early in the morning. He would drive home he'd take me out of school early

drive back to the city with me three four times a week we did this for years up until ninth grade when I was in high school and

there was that that creepy teacher of yours which one which one exactly didn't he make you do like a kissing scene when you were like 11

Oh she was It was a woman Yeah She made me You know I must have told you Oh fake the orgasm right Fake the orgasm

Yes yes yes When I was in 7th grade I had a fake orgasm To Matt D'Addario Who's Alex D'Addario's brother Right Yeah I just like Crazy shit

I've lived a million lives Right Like it's insane And you're That feels like I met so many people In my life like from going in out city for three four times a week auditions i've been on hundreds of auditions for movies and tv shows that are very popular now like yeah and i'm just like it's crazy that i live this

whole other life that i try to talk about all the time and people get annoyed because they're like here she goes again we fucking get it and i'm like no but it was so cool like somebody who's like uh a fan of you is getting older and is going to become a producer or director or a casting person and they're going to be like listen to this there was a show on amazon called panic yeah and i watched the show i talked about it and the writer of the book uh and she like did the tv TV show DM me and she was like oh my god I'm a fan like I'm a fan of you if Panic gets renewed for the second season you're

in I know but that show it's gonna happen though that kind of stuff will develop like more and more who knows it's also like smart I have so many ideas for here though let's go babe

let's do it I've talked to Tommy about it a bunch too because because it's crazy there's so many funny people under the roof right here and we all hang out

all the time and we're like we never like you wouldn't know because we don't post about it we go out every weekend like why aren't we filming this

I'm like why aren't we making vlogs of us going out but then we're out and we're like we're not going to film then you want to have fun and i'm just like it's kind of the only fans thing where like with like the camera set up like well

i need to be off the clock sometimes yeah right and here that's like not really a thing but i mean there's so many ideas like crazy so many small shows that could be done that you know we don't have that like i when you saw us filming that Martin Short thing, I just want to start making movie trailers every week because we're never

going to make a real movie. Let's just put out movie trailers every week because we all have movie ideas but they're never going to get made so like,

let's just make trailers. It was just like different ideas. I don't know if that one was the winner but it was a wild one. you got to start somewhere. Well,

hopefully that's what this new like era is gonna be so um that's one of like the og people i feel like you know you got the green light to do whatever the fuck you want and whatever this next uh iteration of barstool is so go do it yeah well we'll have fun we got we should talk more yeah no no i mean i like you guys. The amount of talent that's already under the roof that we either haven't developed or put the right people... Who would have thought that fights and sass are a dynamic duo? We didn't know until we did it.

There's a lot more to come. I think you'll be even more successful than you ever even dreamed. Thank you. I know you dreamed pretty high. Yeah. You can still dream. Are you doing any live shows

or anything you want to plug or tell people? We have live shows coming up in May and June, but we don't have the locked. I know the cities. It's Dallas, Denver, Minneapolis, Tampa, and there's one more.

D.C. Let's go. Those are all places that we've never been to before. Cito's coming. That'll be really cool. Very cool. Thank you. Thank you, guys.

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