KFC Radio - Robbie Fox Reminisces on The Old Days Of Barstool Radio - Inside Barstool

Episode Date: January 16, 2023

Robbie Fox joins us for an Inside Barstool episode. Him and the guys talk Gerard Butler, The future of Barstool, The old days of Barstool Radio, Avatar, mental health and much much more. ++++++++++++...+++++++++++++++ Timecodes: 0:00:00 Gerard Butler in Plane 00:04:21 Is Cinema dead? 00:10:16 Avatar wasn't that good 00:15:54 Been in a good place with Depression and Anxiety recently 00:17:52 Dr*gs 00:21:39 Spina Bifida 00:24:43 Marty Mush is an idiot 00:27:30 Robby's Outlook on Barstool's Future 00:49:36 Getting online hate +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Hellofresh: Go to https://barstool.link/HFKFC and use code kfc21 for 21 free meals + free shipping Betterhelp: This episode is sponsored by Betterhelp. Go to https://barstool.link/BHKFC for 10% off your first month +++++++++++++++++++++++++++You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/kfcr

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, KFC Radio listeners, you can find every episode of KFC Radio on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Are you kidding me? I looked at my analytics the last year. You made a presentation? Not a presentation, but like... Let's just jump right back into it. We got Bob Fox on for our Inside Barstool episode, but we were talking about Gerard Butler in the movie Plane.
Starting point is 00:00:42 Yeah. Bob and I are going tonight. Opening night. Mandate? Con's coming too. Oh. A little throuple. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:50 Yeah. And I'll tell you what. The theater is so jammed that we can't even sit together, bro. Isn't that crazy? So you guys are going to go together and then spread out? Well, I mean, it's like there are two seats and then there's an aisle and then there's one seat. I'm going to talk about some gay stuff.
Starting point is 00:01:00 Let's go to the movies with your buddies. Dude. The fellas? Going to a Gerard Butler movie? Gerard Butler? Dude, that is fellas! That's a moment for the boys. Gerard Butler got emailed and this is why I'm so
Starting point is 00:01:14 right about everything I fucking say all the time. It is. I can't wait for what this is going to be. After Olympus Has Fallen, a movie that I talk about, I wax poetic about. It's an unbelievable franchise. I hope it gets into the fast lore where I hope they do ten of them. Because they're all unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:01:30 I think they're on the way. Space Station Has Fallen. For sure. The new one is Night Has Fallen. I don't think they've started filming yet, but that will be the fourth installment. If you go to four, you go to nine, I think. You think so? I think so.
Starting point is 00:01:42 You cross that threshold and keep going. After Olympus Has Fallen, which was the first one. Not my favorite one. London has fallen is my favorite. But Robert Downey Jr. emailed Gerard Butler and was like, you got to do more. We need more movies like this. This is what Holly...
Starting point is 00:01:57 Yeah. He's like, when I went to movies as a kid, this is what I saw. Fuck yeah. We need more shit like this. Because he... And people always think I'm kidding when I say these movies are awesome. No, these movies are awesome. No, these movies are awesome.
Starting point is 00:02:06 Gerard Bartlett got the, like, like, your movie's bomb tag. For a while, he was known as like, the big budget guy whose movies suck.
Starting point is 00:02:17 But no, but maybe, maybe they're not well liked, but they're not, they don't bomb. They make every, like, every,
Starting point is 00:02:22 no, no, no, not, not, I think those do. I think he would do like, rom-coms and shit like that.
Starting point is 00:02:27 And those always bombed. It would be like him. But The Ugly Truth, unbelievable. Him being the leading man. With Katherine Heigl? A classic. I was just about to say, I think there's a movie with Katherine Heigl that got like $0. I know.
Starting point is 00:02:40 I guarantee you that made my movie. There is a Katherine Heigl movie. I don't think it's that one, though. Katherine Heigl, I think, has the least grossing movie of all time. She is one of the least likable, successful people of all time. Is she successful anymore? She was for quite a time. Oh, buddy, buddy. The fucking ugly truth raked in cash.
Starting point is 00:02:56 Did it? Budget, $38 million. Box office, $205, dude. Gerard Butler just makes money, dude. Gerard Butler just makes money, dude. Oh, and he's doing his Scottish accent in this one. Yeah, I love that.
Starting point is 00:03:12 We're getting the real Gerard in this one. Yeah, usually he does an American. He has a Scottish accent. He's going raw dog in this movie. He did it in Greenland, too. He's like, I'm done. I'm going to be Scottish now. I do love a good Has Fallen movie. He did it in Greenland too. He's like, I'm done. I'm going to be Scottish now. I do love a good
Starting point is 00:03:26 Has Fallen movie. Those are fucking awesome. The genre of movies, and you've said it constantly and I agree with you, of don't make me go back to the old me. That is one of the
Starting point is 00:03:35 greatest genres of all time. I mean, there's a reason why. There's a reason why there's a million of them. Because everybody fucking loves those. The John Wick's,
Starting point is 00:03:41 the Equalizer, that's my favorite one. Equalizer. They're filming three right now, I believe. The Equalizer is also, it's the pinnacle of Denzel. Yes. It's the pinnacle of that genre with the pinnacle of the guy who does that genre. So it's like a double.
Starting point is 00:03:55 They're like, what if we took Man on Fire and you kill way more people? Exactly. Exactly that. One of my favorite movies. Yep. And Home Depot too. I don't even, the best part of Equalizer doesn't even make sense I don't understand
Starting point is 00:04:06 the watch part doesn't make sense to me why does he have to do that yeah he's got like superpowers but only for like one scene a movie he'll like turn
Starting point is 00:04:14 shuts the door locks starts his watch and then kills a bunch of people and then stops his watch I don't know why he does that he wants to see how long it takes to kill a bunch of people
Starting point is 00:04:21 you gotta challenge yourself high scores it's like yeah I know I'm gonna kill all you guys I'm gonna try to do it in under a minute that scene in. You've got to challenge yourself. It's like, yeah, I know I'm going to kill all you guys. I'm going to try to do it in under a minute. That scene in the first one is so good when he takes the wine cork, the screw, puts it up through the guy's mouth, and the guy opens his mouth.
Starting point is 00:04:32 You can see it. So good. So fucking good. Yeah, there's – I know people – and you can talk about this because, you know, stuff that you cover on My Mom's Basement. But the talk of like cinema is dead and all that kind of shit and it's like i don't know man dude i i feel like there's i complete there's just as many like good movies as there are fun movies as there are action movies
Starting point is 00:04:56 when you say cinema you mean cinemas or like like cinema which i can't even define personally when people are like all it is is is Marvel movies and remakes. And it's like, yeah, there is a lot of that, but I don't know. You just got to dig deeper for the Banshees or Vanisher or whatever you want to see, which you don't even really have to dig deep for. I was going to say, that's a perfect example. That's getting a lot of love and people watched it. And every year there's the Oscar movies that are like Shape of Water and all that weird shit.
Starting point is 00:05:34 We've talked about it before where it's like – it was an article I read in The Atlantic where it was basically the moneyballification of American culture, which is like you can't fault people for it. It's just they started doing the smart thing. Yeah. They did the things they know work. Right. How can you fault someone for – probably an era where producers fucking chefs clothing creators like everybody did like what they liked and didn't have
Starting point is 00:05:51 all the information and all the feedback it was like a suit could be like you could sway a suit in a meeting you know what dude that kind of sounds fucking cool whereas now it's like what do the numbers say? Right.
Starting point is 00:06:06 And so you can't fault people. But it also is probably – it was probably a cooler world where they told you what to do and what was cool as opposed to the other way around. Yeah. Because we suck. Right. As a collective, people will just all start to act the same, dress the same, speak the same, watch the same. So I think it's cool that an extra creative person or an extra smart person is the one that says, no, why don't we wear it this way or why don't we make the movie like this?
Starting point is 00:06:36 But now it's just like, well, because we've got to make money, so we're going to do it this way. So I do understand all that, but it's also like i'm also a regular dude so all of those things are going to apply to me so i like those if it's it's probably a very hard time to be like a hipster and like the next quentin tarantino like for that person to come up right it's probably tough yeah and if even banshees what you're talking about you're a fan of that type shit yeah you're probably like yeah there's really nothing for me yeah but but if you're a fan of that type shit, you're probably like, yeah, there's really nothing for me. Yeah. But if you're regular.
Starting point is 00:07:10 Or at least not like you can't go to the theater because they got fucking Avatar on seven screens. Right, right, right. But it's like, all right, that's like one consequence. Go down to the art house theater down the block. Right, there's another shift. You go to Broadway, go to whatever. Yeah, yeah. But Banshees, what you're talking about, Banshees is essentially a sequel. To In Bruges.
Starting point is 00:07:22 In Bruges, yeah. Right, so it's that, like we're talking about like proof of concept like okay we know it works we know who loves it it's martin mcdonough's colin farrell it's brennan gleason like it's it's not a sequel by any stretch by anybody it is like spiritual martin mcdonough wrote it for that it's a sequel in the sense of like movie execs are going to go okay yeah yeah right but we know this works we know people love this but also i think the i think theaters it's kind of like people are saying it's one of those things where people are hoping it to be a self-fulfilling prophecy Where people who don't go to the theaters say theaters are dead
Starting point is 00:07:50 Say movies are dead blah blah blah But like dude I went to Megan this weekend I don't know if I've ever had more fun in the theater Really everyone's saying that Bro it was jam packed People are like yelling at the screen and laughing and shit Dude Plane got an ovation The trailer for Plane.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Everyone's like, let's go! Fucking Nicole Kidman's AMC commercial got a standing ovation. It's important to be excited. People go with a mindset of like, we're going to fuck around. Megan's one of my favorite movies, not of all time, obviously, but it's my favorite movie I saw this year. It was so much fun. Everyone was like, fuck yeah!
Starting point is 00:08:26 If you've seen the trailer where she's like dancing and she's got like the sword and someone's like oh here she comes I hope it's like that tonight I would think it will but again I bought the tickets last night and that's sold out and it's also like it's not in a
Starting point is 00:08:44 massive theater but like it's I would guess tonight is sold out but like and it's also like it's not in a massive theater but like it's i i would guess tonight is sold out and i would guess it's the diehard it's it's the baller crew cut and loose yeah yeah it is dude there's nothing better when the the movie theater we always used to go to it was uh in new rochelle and there was always a lot of black people in the theater and they are just the fucking best to watch movies with they it's it's like having a whole it's like a second screen it's like it's it's like an electric chair type thing it's like i'm just watching you guys watch it the commentary the jokes i mean i will never forget seeing the others i went through a phase when like and and so to hollywood like the ring and the others and all those movies were coming out and i went to see all of them and
Starting point is 00:09:22 there was a scene where it got particularly scary and this guy got up and said fuck nope and just left left the whole fuck left his friends whoever he was with he was just gone and i i mean it was like when you have a crowd that is into it it's like you can make the movie absolutely like yeah that movie might suck but it's gonna be the best experience you ever had i think i would like megan either way but like if i would have been sitting in an empty theater i'd been like oh yeah that's the same experience you ever had. I think I would have liked Megan either way, but if I would have been sitting in an empty theater, I'd have been like, oh, fuck it. It's the same thing you do because I don't know if it's the pressure of society
Starting point is 00:09:52 or if it's that sounds deeper than I'm actually going to make it seem. But like if I'm home, I'll just be on my phone and I won't pay attention. But in a theater, I won't touch my phone. Just out of respect for the people around me and shit like that. So I'm actually watching.
Starting point is 00:10:06 And you focus on it. Oh, wait. This is better than I thought it was. And that sort of shit, laughter or shock or whatever is contagious. So you have people around you. I was going to say like you go to have a good time. You see other people having a good time. You just naturally like –
Starting point is 00:10:16 Unless you're having a good time. Unless you're a real asshole. Totally. Like, yeah. You're like, oh my god, the cinematography and Megan. And there's plenty of those fucking dicks out there. I'm going to go to Avatar and do that. I'm going to watch Avatar and be in the theater going, this movie sucks.
Starting point is 00:10:30 I finally gave in and I honestly thought, like I talked so much shit about James Cameron, but I was like, I'm going to go and fucking love Avatar. I know me. I'm going to love it. I didn't. I was so like, it was three hours and ten minutes. It felt like it was five hours and twenty minutes. There's no way that that movie is...
Starting point is 00:10:45 It was the first one. It was the first one. I was going to say, it's just the first fucking movie. They brought the bad guy, but they were like, the guy we killed in the end of the first one, he's actually the bad guy for this one as well. That's so lame. I didn't even know that they killed people in Avatar.
Starting point is 00:10:58 I thought it was like a utopia. Oh, no, no, right. The soldiers are going... Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, right, right, right. So lame. Fuck that guy. Yeah, fuck James Cameron. Fuck James Cameron. He could get it anytime, any Oh, no, no, right. The soldiers are going. Human versus, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, right, right, right. So lame. Fuck that guy. Yeah, fuck James Cameron. Fuck James Cameron.
Starting point is 00:11:07 He could get it anytime, anyplace, anywhere, on site. On site. He walks into the office. Well, I mean, I love, I don't know anything about James Cameron, but like, I loved in his, in his Avatar press tour, I loved everything he was saying. I hated it. It triggered me. And I was like I understand
Starting point is 00:11:25 I'm getting triggered What did he say? Like They were like When's a good time to go to the bathroom? It's a three hour movie He goes Go to the bathroom whenever you want
Starting point is 00:11:32 You're gonna see it twice He said that He said like They said like But like No I'm not dude Because it's fucking three hours and ten minutes And it's not that good
Starting point is 00:11:39 It's probably the least rewatchable movie ever I will never ever watch it again Especially not being able to see it In IMAX or whatever Watching it on this screen Who gives a fuck? It's the same movie Iwatchable movie ever. I will never, ever watch it again, especially not being able to see it in a screen. In IMAX or whatever. Watching it on this screen. Yeah, like who gives a fuck? It's the same movie.
Starting point is 00:11:48 I don't give a shit about the sights and stuff on a movie. You know what, too? And maybe I'm jaded to it. At this point, like Avatar 2 and I'm sure the CGI people saw a big advancement. I didn't look at that and go like this is unlike anything I've ever seen. Bro, I've been saying it since 1993. We haven't changed Jurassic Park peaked out
Starting point is 00:12:06 That's it, it hasn't gotten any better I wasn't going to say for that I was going to say for HD Honestly, if you could be inside my head Every TV I've ever watched in my entire life Was in the same picture Side by side
Starting point is 00:12:23 It's completely different I'm old enough to remember being like hd like that's there's no difference yeah oh i remember there's no difference i remember when when channels were in both and maybe they are still in both no now it's like automatically it like flips you can try to put it on but it gives it sends you to the hd my friends would be like dude put on the hds like hd was in the 800s and like i knew espn was 32 or whatever it was yep and i'd be like i just hit three two they were dupline hd i'm like it doesn't fucking matter bro trying to watch sports now in sd is wild it's like like it's like nintendo everything i ever saw was that was a thousand percent video games too yeah like the most read the ps5 and the xbox one
Starting point is 00:12:59 i didn't get because every other system felt like oh here's a jump up now it is it is a jump up like we're saying but like it's so good on the last already like yeah I mean until I think until they make some sort of like holographic 3d jump you know there needs to be like a like when you went to the even they tried that holy well that's what I mean like they haven't perfected
Starting point is 00:13:20 that yeah I had 3d goggles and shit like that the day that you can do some some obi-wan star wars shit where you know it just like appears in front of you then maybe we can talk but until then if you're watching on a screen i got the max now yeah i couldn't it made me most sickness yeah the 4dx thing i know i don't need you to spit on me while i went to go see endgame for the fourth time when we saw it we saw it 4dx and it was one of the worst experiences it's annoying you're shaking and moving. Literally, it shakes you the whole time.
Starting point is 00:13:47 And there's no seatbelt either, so it kind of shakes you on an angle. Oh, that's crazy. You're holding on the whole time, so you're like, oh, let me make sure I'm still sitting here. And then Captain America will get hit, and it just punches you in the back. Wait, I don't want this. It's like, I don't want to go to war.
Starting point is 00:14:04 I want to watch the war. I don't want to go to war I want to watch the war I don't want to be involved in it Yeah no that shit is for the birds It doesn't make you feel like you're in the movie either Like if it's raining it'll just like Hit you with a spray of water And then shake your chair Like that's not how life works
Starting point is 00:14:15 I'm not in the movie right now Dude that's how you get a shot in Mardi Gras Or down in New Orleans Where they smack you Yeah Dude I've seen a lot of those More recently on social media.
Starting point is 00:14:25 I could not hate something more than that. I agree. Those girls who fucking like, they unload on you, and then they like rub their fat tits in your face like, no, thank you. I think I would get knocked out with a smack. Like the new thing they got. Slumped over. You've got New Year's goals, and HelloFresh is here to help you achieve them.
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Starting point is 00:16:08 We did a behind the block at your apartment, right? Yeah, a while ago. I was going to say that was probably like three years ago now. It has to be. It's during the pandemic. Right. Trent's still living together. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:19 The couch crew. The whole milk boys. The whole milk boys. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Whole milk gang. I feel like at that point, I remember you were pretty open about how anxious you were all the time. And I feel like now you're in a good place.
Starting point is 00:16:37 I've been in a good place. Yeah. I feel like after that, it got worse for a little while. Yep. And now I think you're in a good place though, right? Yeah. I've been doing great. And is that because of like,
Starting point is 00:16:45 do you think like, work's going, is like when you go through those, is that inside or outside effects like makes it happen? That's a good question. Like, I think it's a little bit of both. Like sometimes I can't control it
Starting point is 00:16:58 where like this stupidest shit will set you off and then it starts to snowball and everything. The spiral exactly of like, oh my god, I'm going to be nervous. And you're getting nervous about being nervous? Right. And you realize it's not even the thing anymore.
Starting point is 00:17:11 Exactly. I'm just in the cycle. And then I get mad at myself where I'm like, I could have been totally fine if I didn't do this myself. If I didn't just put that first thought in. But the past couple of years, I've been really good. I did that the other night. I don't even remember what it was about. I did it so bad my left arm got numb.
Starting point is 00:17:24 I wasn't even doing anything Really? My whole left arm got numb And I was like You might have like A nerve issue there You might just be fat bro Yeah I had sneezed
Starting point is 00:17:32 And set it off That does happen though You know It was like I was high And I usually don't get Paranoid high But oh that's what it was
Starting point is 00:17:42 I was wondering Am I gonna get paranoid high And I had actually Tak it was i was wondering am i gonna get paranoid high actually i've taken mushrooms and smoked and i was like oh boy oh boy and then i was like wait my left hand's going numb which probably was probably wasn't but you probably made it no it's probably like my hands on my chest watching tv and the blood drained off yeah i was like wait what's happening what's happening are you just took a bunch of melatonin i would like i'm down to try yeah but i feel like that would i feel like that would fit your aesthetic i think so i do mushrooms like every night now really yeah but like just like like a little bite of a chocolate
Starting point is 00:18:13 bar like nothing nothing crazy but enough to feel it enough to be laying down and i start rubbing my feet together that's what you know right feeling from weed how different is the feeling from weed very different i don't really feel much from weed. I just get tired and hungry. Bro, the munchies are the main reason. I don't eat all day because I know how much I'm going to eat at night. I get super high. I'm so stereotypical. I'm giggly. I'm tired.
Starting point is 00:18:37 And then the munchies are unstoppable. I could have a full fucking belly and be like, if I have one more bite, I'd puke. And then I get high and it's just like. That's the reason why I can't rely on weed every night because I will be. I already be bad. You know what I do?
Starting point is 00:18:53 It's crazy. It's crazy what I do. I start smoking and I usually have a little fucking pre-roll, like the smaller ones. And I'll smoke as I'm cooking dinner. And I'll be like, this is yummy. And then I'll start a movie and I'll smoke like as i'm cooking dinner and i'll be like this is yummy and then i'll like start a movie and i'll smoke again then and then i'll keep eating straight for two hours until i decide i gotta put a plug in it and at that point i take melatonin and pass out that's a hell of a diet right there so the only way you stop is by knocking your body out
Starting point is 00:19:22 dude like in the olden days i'd have to keep a hammer by the bed. I'll just stay up all night and eat. I also think I'm getting addicted to melatonin. Yeah, that happens. The tolerance will go through the roof. Not even addicted to sleep. This is the first time I've ever felt addict feelings about anything. You're just thinking about it. You want it. Bro, I'll be brushing my teeth in the morning, and I'll ever felt like addict feelings about anything. Like I've never – You're just like thinking about it.
Starting point is 00:19:45 You want it. Bro, like I'll be brushing my teeth in the morning and I'll see the melatonin sitting there. Yeah. And I'll just be staring at it. Oh, you bad girl. I'm like, dude, if you take that pill, like nothing will bother you. Yeah. Nothing will annoy you.
Starting point is 00:20:00 You'll have to do nothing. Melatonin, really? Bro, it is like – That's pretty extreme. It's like a free trial of suicide. You just go unconscious. You take a pill and you go unconscious. It's amazing.
Starting point is 00:20:15 There's a moment right before you pass out where you're fighting it a little bit and it's just great. I can't do it because of the dreams. I get the wild nightmares. That's why I didn bit and it's just like great. I've taken it before. I can't do it because of the dreams. I get the wild nightmares. I don't get those. That's why I didn't take it for a long time.
Starting point is 00:20:30 My buddy, when I was coming home from England, we went like a couple months ago. My buddy, because I hadn't slept the whole way there. And my buddy was like, dude, take a melatonin. He's like, but just so you know, you get really bad nightmares. I was like, just so you know, you don't want to be next to me getting really bad nightmares. So I'm going to forego that and just stay up. I think that happens if I do like NyQuil, like anything that really like zonks me. I get a little wacky.
Starting point is 00:20:51 I've been having like a reoccurring nightmare lately that I show up for gym class and I forgot to bring a change of clothes. I'm like, fuck. Dude, those things. I've never had one of those. Those blow my mind. That like every – the fact that as a collective society, we all have those. It's crazy. It's pretty fucking wild.
Starting point is 00:21:09 I wake up like every morning now like, fuck my gym clothes. Mr. Peekler is going to be mad at me. I don't have that, but I have like tests and late for class. Not studying. Yeah. You come in and they're like, here's a test. Which is – so to me that that's gotta mean that like when our brands were forming
Starting point is 00:21:27 we were worried about that shit and it just sticks yeah right cause like locked in you couldn't get that out it's fucked up there's nothing else in my life that I go back to as consistently as that no a locker combination
Starting point is 00:21:44 that's when you're stuck in the locker and you're like, dude. I want one of those. I want one of those shared experiences. I forgot about forgetting your locker. Yeah. I've never had a shared experience. What did they do when that happened? I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:21:55 I was the kid who was like. This guy just came and clipped it? I don't have time for my locker. I'll put all my books in my backpack and then I have a bad back. You just ran around. Yeah. You got scoliosis from it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:04 Really? I don't have scoliosis. I do have rheumatoid arthritis in my back, which is pretty rare for, I think, a 24-year-old to have. Rheumatoid arthritis? I think my mom has that. Yeah, that is. I think she does.
Starting point is 00:22:14 Most moms do. Dude, the, what do you call it? The spina, no, I'm just saying, what did you say? Spina bifida? Did you say spina bifida? Spina bifida? You said something about spine, right? What? Spina bifida is not you say? Spina bifida? Did you say spina bifida? Spina bifida? You said something about spine, right? What?
Starting point is 00:22:26 Spina bifida is not a thing. Spina bifida is a thing. Spina bifida? Bro. Spina bifida. That's made up. You're trying to say scoliosis. That's a dinosaur from three.
Starting point is 00:22:34 Spina bifida? Spina bifida is a thing. That's a dinosaur from Jurassic Park 3. I know it's a thing. I'm not an idiot. Spina bifida? Yeah, bro. What is it?
Starting point is 00:22:42 Scoliosis is what I meant. I was talking about the scoliosis test. But spina bifida is for real. What's a spina bifida? Yeah, bro. What is it? Scoliosis is what I meant. I was talking about the scoliosis test. But spina bifida is for real. What's a spina bifida? Spina bifida is a birth defect in which there is an incomplete closing of the spine. We're not laughing about that. Yeah, no. Spina bifida.
Starting point is 00:22:53 I'll tell you what spina bifida is. Spina bifida is one of those things that you test your fetus for, and if it has it, you can't laugh about it. Oh, my God. Yo! Hey, yo! My God! That's not a joke.
Starting point is 00:23:17 I've never done it. I've never testingly responded to that. I fucking bet you there's a lot of people listening to this who have and went, I'm not ready for that in my life. It was so innocent minutes ago. We were talking about CGI and Avatar. Bro. Damn.
Starting point is 00:23:36 I think my mom told a story where she was like, I wish you had Spiderman. Like, not in the moment when they were getting attached. Like, I hope it has Spiderman. Bro, that was intense. That was crazy. I'm pretty sure – I heard this on another podcast, I think. I'm pretty sure in, like, Asian culture, they pull the plug on quite a few things. So they don't really have it in their society, though.
Starting point is 00:24:01 Yeah. Because it's just like – We do it now, too. Yeah. We've talked about like special needs. Dude, when I was a kid special needs people
Starting point is 00:24:09 were everywhere. Dude. You don't see a lot of special needs people anymore. The other day my mom was like are you kidding me? In first grade I had like 70 kids in my class.
Starting point is 00:24:17 There were retards everywhere. I was like oh my god. But yeah, but like I think it's one thing like spina bifida sounds like you're being like you're completely, like, you're completely misformed.
Starting point is 00:24:29 Where it's like. They shouldn't make the word that funny, though. They should not make it that funny to say. He said it's a dinosaur from Jurassic Park 3. Spina bifida's got loose. Spina bifida. That's the new big bad guy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:42 The scoliosis, anyway. Yeah. They made you grab your ankles and fucking rub their fingers down your back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was weird as shit. Yeah. The scoliosis anyway. Yeah. They made you grab your ankles and fucking rub their fingers down your back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was weird as shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:49 It like feels... Did you have anybody who wore like a back brace? No. Like Sweet D style? No. I think Marty Mush did. Mush is a back brace guy?
Starting point is 00:24:57 I think so because he had scoliosis. Really? Yeah. That makes sense. The way Marty moves I can be like that. Oh, he's all fucking lame
Starting point is 00:25:03 and shit, yeah. He moves like a puppet. Yeah, he does. Like there's a marionette on top. Like someone is controlling Marty. He's not. He is the example of someone in his head is someone's moving levers,
Starting point is 00:25:16 but they always forget to just think. It's too busy moving levers to have actual thoughts. It's like, all right, move the left hand. Oceans probably have walls. Oh, man. God bless Marty. We'll get him in here, too.
Starting point is 00:25:36 I'll never forget Mush coming up to me years ago at this point and saying, guess how many bubbles form when you use a bar of soap in the shower? Oh, my God. I was like, what? What is it? Is the number like a billion? He goes, 73. And I said, what?
Starting point is 00:25:50 You're wrong about that because I've been in the shower before. It's more than 73. He goes, no, I looked it up. And I said, show me the article where you found it. It was literally like an ask.com and the first response says, I don't know, maybe 73. I read it. It's data. Somebody said it somewhere. I don't know maybe 73. I read it it's data. Somebody said it somewhere. I don't know maybe 70. That was the exact number too it was years ago and I still remember it because I was just like
Starting point is 00:26:13 there was no cameras no nothing yeah I was just like mush there's not 73 bubbles in the shower. As if anybody could determine that by the way. Exactly. As if there's any way to 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. 73. New record. This show is sponsored by BetterHelp. When you're at your best, you can do great things. But sometimes life gets you bogged down and you may feel overwhelmed or like you're not showing up in the way that you want to. Working with a therapist can help you get closer to the best version of you. Because when you feel empowered, you're more prepared to take on everything that life throws at you. I know when I'm talking to somebody and I get it all out, simply just
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Starting point is 00:27:48 especially for the non-gambling people, obviously. I feel like you guys, I listened to some of your Son of a Boy Dad episode, like I want the office to be back to, hey, I want to hang around because something might happen today. And the office hasn't been that for years. So it's like, I enjoy it mostly to myself,
Starting point is 00:28:07 which is like it has its pros and cons, of course. But like I have no like real – I'm not like a pissed off guy right now. I'm not a disgruntled worker. Yeah, yeah. I do think that The Office going back to what it once was is probably a pipe dream. I think it is too. It's never like – Because it was original. A lot of fear, a lot of it.
Starting point is 00:28:27 You know? it's never like original fear a lot of it you know but so I think like you can't ever recapture like Milton days you can't ever recapture the first office you can't even read you can't recapture anything it's like because also just to make it if we're talking about like back when like everyone's hanging out and like all that shit like in order to do that you have to start
Starting point is 00:28:43 an initiative and that inherently makes it lame i remember one time and i was in maybe sophomore year of high school the day before the super bowl i think we were at my buddy's house it was a bunch of us it was like it was one of those times where like everybody like 10 guys were all in somebody's house and we were in his basement and there was he had a ton of toilet paper in his basement and we had somehow a fight broke out and we were playing dodgeball basically with rolls of toilet paper and it was like the most fun all of us had ever had we call us gay for going to see ger Gerard Butler movie. Me and the boys, we turned into sorority.
Starting point is 00:29:31 I mean, we were, it was like, we're throwing like footballs, like smash. It was unbelievable. Make me a mummy. Don't get it wet. Don't get it wet. That's so gross. That's so gross when it's wet. And the next year we were like, we tried to like do it again.
Starting point is 00:29:46 Like a day before the Super Bowl. Let's do it again. And it was like – Yeah. Literally, John, you stopped looking at me. I was like, this fucking sucks. We're going to pick all this up, you know. Yeah. You can't recreate those.
Starting point is 00:29:56 Same thing with – we – for Hoboken St. Patrick's Day, we got up at 6 a.m. Oh, yeah. My buddies making bacon, egg, and cheeses for everybody. Everybody slept at the apartment we were going to stay at the night before so we could get up and go. And my buddy was like, why don't we just do this all the time? Like, this is so much fun. Why don't we never grow up?
Starting point is 00:30:14 Why don't we just do this next weekend? Oh, I see. We drank for fucking 18 hours straight and we were like dead the next day. And it was like, oh, this is like, that's why we can never do this ever again. But the point is, these things have to have to happen this is like, we can never do this ever again. But the point is these things have to happen naturally. Like you can't just. I know. And I think also when Barstool was a tight crew,
Starting point is 00:30:34 you knew everybody and whether or not you liked them, you like knew who they were and you knew you could like trust them and they knew what you knew what you could say and couldn't say. And now it's like, you just couldn't say and now it's like you just can't recreate that it's like there's too many people and it's it's never going to be what it was when it was a startup basically but that's not to say that you can't try to make it
Starting point is 00:30:56 into something new and different and better and somewhat similar but you know take a piece of that and and put it into the new way because i i just think that there's too much uh it's it's just too much of a job now where it's not like it used to be like a little culture like a little it was like it sounds so lame to say but when it was like in hq two days from my experience like felt like everyone had the common goal of like hey we're retweeting each other we We're supporting each other. We're trying to grow this as a brand. We have none of that.
Starting point is 00:31:30 That's what I think. That I think you can fix. We've talked about that with Hank where it was like, well, it's not really the same. We've talked about it with Hank where people who come in don't have that fire where we're all rowing the boat in the same direction. That is definitively not happening anymore. And I think that it is... There are parts where I completely understand it. There are parts...
Starting point is 00:31:51 If I was someone new, I'd be like, I don't need to fucking help them. They're fucking fine. But then I also think there are parts where new people are scared to ask to go on show. There's no doubt in my mind that... And this is why I think it can be salvaged. Like if I said – what I want to do with everybody is like have a system almost where it's like you go on my show.
Starting point is 00:32:13 I go on your show. You retweet me. I retweet you. We almost have like a schedule because like if you think about it, that's what we do for outsiders. They come in and they promote their show and their work and we give them the cosign and then fans go, oh, KFC Radio said it's cool, I'm gonna go watch it. Why the fuck don't we do that
Starting point is 00:32:32 for each other? If our seal of approval means that much and obviously there's some inherent fakeness to it where it's like I'm having you on the show because you work for Barstool. If you didn't, would I have you on the show? Would I like your shit? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:32:47 So there's a little bit of like, yeah, it's because it's a company. But let's do that. And I think if you were to go up to a new person and be like, if I help you, will you help me? They'd be like, absolutely. Oh, my god, yes. I would love that. I didn't even know that was allowed. You know what I mean? I got a text from Alex Bennett last night, and she said,
Starting point is 00:33:08 Dave once said to me, I'll retweet anything you ask me to retweet. Is that true? And I said, I don't know, because I would never do that. Because if I did, he would say, oh, you need daddy to come help you? You need your shitty show to be saved by daddy? I literally said all that in the text. And I said, so I'm not sure how it applies to you. I bet he would because he treats girls different than guys. And like, so he'll probably do it.
Starting point is 00:33:35 But I just personally wouldn't do that because I wouldn't want that on my like ledger, you know? And so I think she said like, okay, I won't do it. And so, but I just went and retweeted her shit, you know? You know what the key is? You don't put it in writing. I've never done that, but I know Dave says that. So the last time we were in London, just a couple times, I would just turn my phone and be like, throw that a retweet?
Starting point is 00:33:52 And he did it. He did it every time. Really? Shit. Wait, what happened relatively recently? It was in this office where he – it was with you too you and Dave you guys were involved in something and Dave like had to do
Starting point is 00:34:10 something cause he like was cornered and it was something with Clem it was Clem and Dave going back and forth on something and he like had to do it because he got like how about you like throw us a retweet and he was like I can't do that out of like masculinity yes that's it it was like you guys were butweet and he was like I can't do that out of like masculinity yes it was like
Starting point is 00:34:25 you guys were butting heads forget what it was something so stupid yes and it was very it was very like inconsequential
Starting point is 00:34:31 but he said like oh it was the thrones it was him stealing the game of stools name that's exactly so that yeah it was very recently because we had
Starting point is 00:34:38 so we had game of stools and Dave came out with his own show called game of stools because he had no idea we were doing a game of stools podcast typical that was like the biggest Game of Stools podcast. Typical.
Starting point is 00:34:47 That was like the biggest Game of Thrones podcast on the internet. Other than the official Game of Thrones. I thought it was even bigger than that one. Yeah. It was like in the early days it was like bigger than at HBO. And Clem said – Dave said like I had no idea. That was not like with malintent. Like we're going to take ours and change our name. What was Dave's show?
Starting point is 00:35:07 It was Millmore's show. Oh, right, right, right. Okay, yeah, yeah. I knew that. And Clem was like, that's the right thing to do. And also maybe you should throw a retweet. And he was like, I cannot. Like I am contractually like I cannot.
Starting point is 00:35:19 Can't force my hand. Yeah, yeah. And it was funny because it's like it is kind of like you can't do that. You can't do it that way. It does have to be somewhat natural. So that's what I'm saying. Like it can't be totally fake. It's like I wouldn't put like an athlete on my mom's basement.
Starting point is 00:35:36 It's like it's got to jive. It has to work. that there's there's when we had our we did a little end of year meeting and and we did like a one minute thing where i just said like we want to help people um get their shit going you know and like how many times do people say shit at meetings and like whatever you know we had like many people come up to us after us texas after be like i i yeah i absolutely after like yeah like right on the street ideas, or whatever, like,
Starting point is 00:36:06 let's do stuff. And it's like, people are eager, and there's just never been any system at Barstool, you know, and I think that it's time to have,
Starting point is 00:36:14 to at least try that, you know? It will never be, it will never be the same. There's no way that you can, you can never get the type of content we got by manufacturing it. manufacturing yeah and our
Starting point is 00:36:26 relationships with each other were new too that was a big part of it was like everyone moving to the same place like you guys even the bloggers that had been there you knew each other through talking online we probably hung out six times but yeah maybe six to ten right that aspect of like you wanted to hang out with everyone you didn't't know them as well. Maybe 10, 15. I think Dave is lucky in the sense like he got lucky with the first people he hired that like we were good and we were like down for the cause. Really not very selfish. Like we were like, yeah, Barstool, Barstool, Barstool. Obviously nowadays a lot more people are out for themselves.
Starting point is 00:37:04 But I understand why. It's like – It's a different company. The people that get hired now aren't the people that were like I was grinding the rundown in 2013 in the pro show. Yeah, so how could they have the same – But I think there was the people who started and they are deeply invested either literally with equity or just like this was my goal. And then the first wave of hires were like diehard grassroots fans. So they wanted to see it succeed. And then as that gets further and further from the core, it's like, oh, yeah, I've heard of Barstool, the Instagram account.
Starting point is 00:37:38 I'd love to work for them. That's very different than I used to read you guys every day and now I'm working alongside you, so I'm going to bust my ass. And so it's just how things go. You can't expect them to get it. It's like some people, you just can't expect that. than I used to read you guys every day and now I'm working alongside you so I'm going to bust my ass. It's just how things go. Some people, you just can't expect that. I worked for Barstool before I worked for Barstool in the sense that I was a street team. Yeah. Spreading it to anyone who would
Starting point is 00:37:57 hear me. That's something that is just natural and organic. I used to read blogs out loud at lunch in high school. Literally, we would sit down. Everyone knew I had the Barstool app. They'd be like, what's funny today? I would just literally verbatim read blogs and have the table cracking up.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Obviously, I'm so old that I can't even fathom having apps and websites. Social media. You had the app at lunch? I was like, what? An app at lunch? Bro, we, what? An app at lunch? Bro, we used to print it out. I didn't. There was just nothing.
Starting point is 00:38:31 In high school, we just talked about what was happening in front of us. I didn't need that. You know what I mean? That is crazy. Actually, we had the...
Starting point is 00:38:38 My buddy who got me into Barstool lived in Boston. We went to school around, but he was a day student from north of Boston. And he would drive back and forth. You guys probably treated those guys like fucking lepers, right? Day students. No, I was a day student.
Starting point is 00:38:55 We've talked about it. I was a day student. You were a day student? The day students are the fucking geniuses, bro. They're only like 10 day students. Oh, yeah. Sure. Yeah, we see see that But he was
Starting point is 00:39:06 Jamie Chisholm Who worked here Way back then Jamie I forget If it's his cousin Or his uncle Or family friend Whatever it was
Starting point is 00:39:12 But Jamie was a good Family friend of his And so he would bring In the actual papers And then we like Hide the papers In the library Jamie's awesome
Starting point is 00:39:19 And then that's how I think I got Borstal banned From my high school Like you couldn't Go on it at one point Because there was Too many like hits
Starting point is 00:39:24 Like the firewall Picked it up or whatever I didn't know anyone else That was going on Borstal And I was like I think I got Borstal banned from my high school. You couldn't go on it at one point. Because there was too many hits. The firewall picked it up or whatever. I didn't know anyone else that was going on Borstal. And I was like, I think I got that. I actually got a great text from Dave yesterday. Really? Dave texted me, Clem, and Jeff D. Lowe in a group chat. No, it's going to happen?
Starting point is 00:39:41 He said, let's make this Disney trip happen. Dude, I was just going to ask about that. I thought that's what you were talking about. No way, bro. So I think early marks were doing it. So you're going to go, because this all stemmed from when he went and he didn't get to do the Star Wars stuff, right? Because he went to the wrong side of the park. So he went to Disney, texted me.
Starting point is 00:39:53 I went on the Star Wars ride. It was literally the greatest amusement park ride I've ever been on. Star Wars Land was amazing. And I said, did you go on the Millennium Falcon ride too? And he said immediately that was like, there was no Millennium Falcon. So, no. And I was like, no, no, no. It's like when you walk into Star Wars land.
Starting point is 00:40:09 It's right there. The thing is the big life-size Millennium Falcon. Turns out the ride he went on is the one from the 90s. It's been there since the 90s. I went on it when I was four. It's good. But you literally. You sound like a 40-year-old ride.
Starting point is 00:40:24 And the ride is, it's almost like the one you go on at the mall like the seat just moves like things from the things from the movie he was like the best ride ever blown away he's like i can't believe like it was worth all he literally said it was worth all the hype now there's a 20 minute ride in star wars land where they like you're like on an actual spaceship the park there's stormtroopers running in like trying to get into it like that's what we're missing out on
Starting point is 00:40:48 so he's like Dave has been the main one texting the group chat over the past few months it's so funny what he will like latch onto
Starting point is 00:40:55 like that could have easily been like Dave never talks about that again or it could be something that's what I thought it was I thought it was a dead dream you know yesterday literally
Starting point is 00:41:04 I got the text and of course you get the text but when I saw thought it was. I thought it was a dead dream. Yeah. Yesterday, literally, I got the text. And, of course, you get the text. But when I saw who it was with, I was like, oh. Oh, it's happening. That's the gang. And I texted back. And this goes back to the fear. I love blogging when I'm at home for the day.
Starting point is 00:41:15 I love blogging with movies on in the background. Like throwing a movie – one of my favorite movies. Like never a movie I haven't seen. So I had A New Hope on. I was like, 2023 just started. Got to do my original trilogy watch every year at least a couple times a month, right? So I go through.
Starting point is 00:41:29 I go through and I went to text back a picture like, oh my God, I'm literally watching A New Hope right now, but it was 11 a.m. on Monday. So I texted back a picture of me with my laptop in front of the screen and said, I'm literally watching A New Hope as I'm writing a blog. And like, at this point, Dave, don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:41:45 You know what I mean? But I still have that fear. And like, at this point, Dave, don't give a fuck. Yeah. You know what I mean? But I still have that fear. In the past, if you said that, it would have been a blog. Like, look at Bob. I watch movies at 11 a.m. on a Monday.
Starting point is 00:41:53 Exactly. Now it's Dave Chitlis' phone. He's throwing two weeks pen cuts of checks. I don't give a shit. So literally, it's a selfie of me in front of the TV screen
Starting point is 00:42:03 with my laptop with a blog pulled up. He was texting with him the other day. He goes, I got to get new pillows. I'm going to text Dave. And I was like, what are you doing? And he's like, yeah, I remember when he did the unboxing. He was looking for the best pillow.
Starting point is 00:42:18 And everyone sent him pillows. And I was like, there's no fucking way he's going to engage with this. But then I remembered Dave loves that kind of stuff. I'll tell you where the best pizza is. I'll tell you where the best pillow is. I'll tell you where the best watch is. I'll tell you where the – well, they know the watches. He is that – so he fired off like five texts to Feidelberg.
Starting point is 00:42:38 You like this? You like that? It was the – I had actually told him when he was in Providence. I told him it was a pizza place. I didn't tell him directly. I actually – actually, no, that's crazy. When you guys were in Rough and Rowdy in Providence, I texted Spider to text Austin to tell Dave the pizza place is in Providence. I was like, I got two or three pizza places.
Starting point is 00:43:03 One has been out. I don't think I saw the other one The other one is coal fire pizza Pizza Marvin's also flames He gave that one like an 8 point something People from my hometown are like You gotta tell David Coney If I do that he's gonna give you a 3
Starting point is 00:43:16 Even if it's fucking the best slice he's ever had He's contractually obligated Does Jersey Jerry have a member of his army? You gotta incept him to make him think that it's his idea it's very weird to think of the version of Dave
Starting point is 00:43:36 that I started with it's very strange I never was like he obviously I thought of it like he was the best writer because I love Marcel you know and I was like so working for him was like it was never my dream
Starting point is 00:43:54 or anything so it just happened so I never like looked up to him or anything like that but there's always that feeling of like you want the approval and you and he's like such an asshole about everything that if you do get any sign of good feedback, it means so much. I was going to talk about with Hank. I was like, I think I have three.
Starting point is 00:44:13 Hank's like, I got four. Whatever. The numbers of times where Dave went, good job. I can tell you where I was. It's like, what do we give a fuck? It's not your dad or anything like that. But there is – he did have that figure, like that imposing figure on you where it's like it mattered that much. But to think – I saw a rundown, a clip from Mario posted everything on this day in Barstool and it was Hank's road to 200. Oh, I love that And it was Dave yelling at all you guys
Starting point is 00:44:46 In the Milton office for eating salads And caring about what you look like Dave got so mad But I remember That I was with him Because that was Barstool We don't eat salads for lunch We don't give a fuck about what our bodies look like
Starting point is 00:45:00 And now if you fast forward to today It's like sit up club With your golden cookie can. It was the it was fucking it was only, it wasn't like a month. It wasn't like a thing like. It was just like leading up to the summer. It was leading up to Fugali. So we were all in a house
Starting point is 00:45:16 together at Fugali. We were all getting jacked up. It was like me, Lou, Gaz, Hank, whatever it was. that was Hank's Road to 200 where he started drinking all the milk out of the cum belly And we said just be like Bob I still vividly remember during the rundown
Starting point is 00:45:31 I would only do the rundowns when Dave was gone Which was like three months a year Yeah you were like the host Dave was going in and talking for like three months It's your site now Okay But Hank took his shirt off And it was just like this We were going in and talking for like three months. It's your site now. Uh-oh. Okay. But Hank took his shirt off, and it was just like this belly.
Starting point is 00:45:51 The cup belly. It was just – You got to get on camera. You got to get on camera. But this is all to say that – so we're working out. We're doing two days at the gym. Because the gym was three doors down at the Mellon office. The gym was right there. So we'd work out in the morning, come to work, leave at like 4,
Starting point is 00:46:07 go work out, come back after work out again. And Dave had just done the video, the Wicked Games video, with what's-her-name? Yeah. The football player. No. The Monterey? Or no?
Starting point is 00:46:21 No, no. Was it Anastasia Ashley? No, it was the same trip. He was out in California. It was the same trip as Anastasia Ashley No It was the same trip He was out in California It was the same trip As Anastasia Ashley But I forget Who the chick's name was
Starting point is 00:46:29 We had her underpants Hanging on the wall Yes The I forget her name Nailed up on the wall But Dave was like Showing us the video
Starting point is 00:46:37 And Like And he's just so gross So He was Dave was Grotesque He was unspeakably ugly back then picture what i
Starting point is 00:46:48 mean the not even that when he had the shaved head like the really like like no hair and the beak i swear to god i swear to god he got a nose job one of those months that he disappeared to nantucket he had to get a nose job the thing got smaller either his face got bigger or his nose got smaller something happened it was around the wicked his nose got smaller. Something happened. It was around the Wicked Games. It was when he was wearing the pinny. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was not great. But he was like – I know the picture you were talking about where he had fucking toenails.
Starting point is 00:47:14 Like he was in flip-flops and his toenails were just clawed. It was just all around. Velociraptor like – Because you know he had the pigeon toes. But the – it was it was like But the It was He's showing the Wicked Games video
Starting point is 00:47:27 And he's like Look at that Look at that He's like showing us What he thinks was funny And stuff like that And it was He was right obviously
Starting point is 00:47:33 And he's like Do you think if you get in shape You can do this video When it's funny And he was right too Absolutely I think he also was showing Like the Justin Bieber
Starting point is 00:47:43 Remember he did It wasn't Sorry He did the sorry video It was a sorry But that. Remember he did Sorry. He did the Sorry video. It was a Sorry, but that one he was in a shirt. He did the magazine cover. Yeah, where he got all the tats. If you're in shape, do you think you can do this?
Starting point is 00:47:53 Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, you're right. It's not funny to do. The fat guy is always the funny guy. That was also on the flip side when I started covering MMA and people were getting shaped so you could be taken seriously as the MMA guy. I was like, I think Barstool is a comedy site would benefit from the comedy of having a fucking boy made of pipe cleaners as the MMA guy. Yeah. No, I mean that –
Starting point is 00:48:16 Although I just did an MMA video with Kayla Harrison, former Olympian gold medalist. She took me down immediately, fucked up my AC joint. I got to go to physical therapy. So maybe I should get in shape. I'll tell you what. You know what you're not going to do? Physical therapy. As someone who's been to physical therapy, I can guarantee you.
Starting point is 00:48:32 As someone who ruined their life not doing physical therapy, you're not going to do physical therapy. Yeah, no. It is just, we've talked about this extensively, me and Ken, because we've both had issues with shoulders, where they're like, okay, so like for a half hour a day, just do like these workouts. And mine was like, I get on my knees and it's just like okay so like for a half hour a day just do like these workouts and mine was like I get on my knees
Starting point is 00:48:46 and it's just like roll it around in a circle like this I'm like I'm just not gonna do that walk your fingers up the wall roll the ball it's like
Starting point is 00:48:53 this is not doing anything it's like yes it is and I just keep signing up for videos where I get beat up by MMA fighters and most recently I just got an invite
Starting point is 00:49:01 to a King 9 show they're a hardcore band and they would like me to come out and throw a fucking massive CRT TV Into the mosh pit And then get in the pit with the maniacs That is, I saw that blog
Starting point is 00:49:12 That's more dangerous than you fighting the anime fighters So dangerous, and I blogged about it You throw a TV at the people? No, no, no, the pit, it kind of clears And you leave a space for them to throw the TV But this weekend There was a massive punk festival where they started picking up the big pieces of the TV and even a piece of an old CRTV. Huge.
Starting point is 00:49:31 And they started throwing it at each other. People were going down. It looked like bad news. And I wrote a blog about it. It got straight edge people furious with me. Like I haven't pissed off people on Twitter like this in years. What was your take? There was a line in the blog where I said the guy who threw the TV was just
Starting point is 00:49:49 completely lost in the sauce. Considering a lot of people at straight edge shows or at punk rock shows are straight edge, that sauce was just the music. I said straight edge is when you don't have a girlfriend and you don't know anyone cool that could get you drugs. The most over the top. Obviously, I'm kidding. You don't know anyone cool that could get you drugs. The most over the top, like obviously I'm kidding.
Starting point is 00:50:07 I don't know anyone cool. Right. But that got screenshotted by a record label and they put it out and like basically sent people at like the straight edgers after me and all of them like, oh, have a joint, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Have a sip of a beer. That's like the dude who did the Chris D'Elia documentary on YouTube. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:24 Because D'Elia is famously like always telling people, I'm sober. I've never had a beer or like no drugs, no alcohol. And he goes, Chris, have a beer, man. Maybe that needs to be your advice instead of that one. Loosen up, man. I like the Twitter. I like when that happens now. Oh, I like it too.
Starting point is 00:50:44 You used to give me a little anxiety. I'll show my girlfriend the phone and she'll have almost the like, oh, why are they saying that? And I'm like, no, no, this is funny. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And like the tweet. When I first did it, like when it first happened, I was excited because I was like, that means we're getting traction. Like something's right. Then there was a middle period where I was like, this just gives me anxiety.
Starting point is 00:51:03 I don't want to deal with this anymore. And now I'm back Now it's wrestling You probably got pushed Now you're like oh I'm getting a response It was probably one minute man That got you like more used to it Because we kind of got it the other day
Starting point is 00:51:13 With Andrew Tate And I'm still in the anxiety phase Oh fuck yeah I relish that one Because those Tate guys are doing Exactly what we're fucking talking about Right Like they were
Starting point is 00:51:21 Like what It happened with a few of them Before I spoke up. But, like, someone was like, Andrew Tate made me a better man. Oh, my God. But then, like, enough, like, I clicked on enough profiles that I eventually quote tweeted someone and said it. Where I was like, you can fucking bet your bottom dollar that when someone
Starting point is 00:51:39 sends you a loser tweet, if you click on their profile, they have recently retweeted someone who's like, retweet for free money. Every single fucking time. Quote tweet this with your cash app and maybe I'll get you 50 bucks. That is the most pathetic shit. That's to hit your fucking monthly recurring
Starting point is 00:51:57 while I'm hosting university. Luckily, I had a busy day yesterday yesterday Not really But like I was doing things So I wasn't on my phone that much But every time I looked at my phone And had like
Starting point is 00:52:09 That was a big one I just don't I'm one of those weird people One of those Fucking bizarre folks Who I prefer people to like me Yeah I don't like the fucking
Starting point is 00:52:17 I don't like intentionally Pissing people off I don't like Like trying to get Like fucking views that way I'm like I don't know. I would prefer you like me.
Starting point is 00:52:27 It's a much more peaceful way to live. No doubt about that. And there's levels to it too, I feel like. When people are genuinely mad at something you said, it's one thing. When it's the straight edge joke, it was such a like, oh my. The people that are getting upset about this. I get anxious if I've said something wrong or I like fucked up. If I've said something funny that I stand fucked up. If I've said something funny that I
Starting point is 00:52:45 stand by or I know I'm right like you are a loser if you pay Andrew Tate to teach you to be cool. I can stand my ground on that and die on that hill happily because you are a loser. True, true, true. And then I can stand my ground. I'm like, I did it
Starting point is 00:53:02 with the Pope the other day. The Christians were coming at me. I'm like, the Pope is a bad dude who co-signed rape. I'm like, I did it with the Pope the other day. The Christians were coming at me. I'm like, the Pope is a bad dude who co-signed rape? I'm good, man. So then it's like, you know, bring it on. It's when I'm like, yeah, that joke didn't land or like, oh, that fact was completely wrong. I got the facts on the story wrong.
Starting point is 00:53:18 Then I'm like, oh, that gives me anxiety. But when you know you did something right and then it's just like, then it's like, just dance. Exactly. Then it's like, you look through the replies and you're like, which one can I make the funniest joke out of? Who can I clown the hardest for sure? You look at the profile pictures. You're like, who can I find who I could just put their profile pictures, the responses? I can't do it with sports anymore.
Starting point is 00:53:41 I told myself I'm not going to do it. I'm going to try this season with the Mets to not do what I did last year. Good luck. Because it was like – and I know I can't because it's like the thing that I'm still so passionate about. So if you're so stupid about it, I'll still call you out. But it's fighting the tides, man. There's no way to win it. Actually, your experience last year has kind of like really altered the way I even choose to win it. Actually, your experience last year
Starting point is 00:54:05 has kind of really altered the way I even choose to do Twitter. Because it is like the... It's the people who aren't following, which is most of the people. And it skews how they think about things. Where I'm like, so just everyone
Starting point is 00:54:21 hates the fucking Mets, and they despise the team, and no one wants the Mets to be good? What does that mean? And they're like, oh, it's who Kevin quote tweets a lot. And even if that's not what the majority of Mets fans are because there's no way it's what the majority of Mets fans think, that's what I think of when I think of Mets fans. So I've been doing that.
Starting point is 00:54:39 I fucking slipped recently with the Bruins where someone was like, they're going to fall apart, which isn't even a thing the Bruins do. was like They're gonna fall apart Which isn't even like A thing the Bruins do It's not like It's not like the Lowell Bruins Like they always lose In the first round
Starting point is 00:54:48 That's not a thing Right right right Like this is the first round Like every time I tweet That the Bruins win Which is every other night Is They're on pace to have
Starting point is 00:54:56 140 points Which is the fucking NHL record By 8 points Like they've won 4 more games That's a huge number Yeah And the And every year Every fucking game People are like They're gonna By eight points. They've won four more games. That's a huge number.
Starting point is 00:55:10 And every fucking game, people are like, they can't keep this up. I'm like, you're right. They're getting better. They're winning more games. They're winning a higher average. And I want to quote you. Because I used to do it before even you. Or I'm sure you've always done it. I mean, you did it with David Price.
Starting point is 00:55:22 With Tuka, David Price was a big thing. Where I was like, I think I was making people think that most of the team, most of the fan base hates Tuka. I was thinking people who aren't totally familiar. People who are at games. So you're almost making it worse because you are propping up the people who are assholes. Propping them up and also just convincing, not convincing, but when people who don't follow the sport as closely as I do think of the sport, they're thinking of it negatively. That's also – that is the commenter effect too where it's like I hate to even admit it, but when people are like comments don't matter, there was a time where you open up a blog and if the first couple of comments are like, fuck this guy, you're – like a diehard fan is going to – Totally. like a diehard fan is totally like like if you liked me you'd be like no he's great whatever
Starting point is 00:56:05 if you are a casual fan and you're like oh i want to get into barstool let me get the lay of the land and that's what you see that's what you see we talked about that on my behind the blog because when it was like it felt like i was public enemy number one i would say it wasn't that the the comments were getting in my head. It was the messages from family members of like, why does everyone hate you? But that's on them. I had told people, I was like, stop reading or stop talking to me about it because I don't give
Starting point is 00:56:33 a fuck. I'm doing a good job of keeping it away. It will affect me so fucking leave me alone. And it's the fans who say like, I don't get all the hate. I love you dude. It's like, I didn't hear that. Yeah. The first part is leave it out you know who i love who responds to people i see on reddit on twitter all the time is smitty gets that more than anybody they were
Starting point is 00:56:54 like listen i know smitty's a schmuck and he's a loser and he's this that but he's a good guy he's a common man he's like you didn't have to say the first say i'm a good guy yeah so yeah i mean that that's where i i hate to admit that tweets, it's more social media now. It used to be comments, whatever the form of feedback is, you know? Yes. And, like, it does affect. It does have an effect. And you know what's crazy?
Starting point is 00:57:16 Even, like, this week, I got frustrated with the comment section because I blocked that. You're still reading it? You know why I read it was because it was the CRT blog, the mosh pit. In the comments, every single one of them said, you're such an idiot. That's not a TV. That's an amplifier. You should know this.
Starting point is 00:57:33 You have music. So literally. I mean. I watched the clip. It's a TV. It's a TV. The band is literally now selling shirts of someone throwing a TV. They invited me to their show to throw a TV.
Starting point is 00:57:47 It's definitely a TV. And I responded to one. I said, let me just, like, nice response. Here's a clear video where you can see it's a TV. And it just got, like, 17 down votes, no up votes. And I was like, all right, this is why I'm not, like, dealing with the comments anymore. Bro, that is like a 10-year veteran making a rookie mistake. What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:58:08 I was just like these people. I have 20 people saying it's unbelievable the idiocy of Barstool bloggers sometimes that are wrong. I know. By all accounts. When you're right and you know what you want to tell. I'm talking to people that were at the show that got hit with the TV. It was a TV. Dude, my favorite blog comment or interaction was when the $100 million lawsuit won.
Starting point is 00:58:32 Yeah. When I called that guy a pedophile. And the first comment was like, good luck with the libel case, the slander case that's coming, the defamation suit. Because like 100% is defamation and you're going to lose. And I replied to that comment and said, shut up, pussy. Shut up, you fucking pedophile. I think that actually might have been what I said.
Starting point is 00:58:54 I think I doubled down on it. I mean, God, thank God that never... He never got any money? I don't think so. He filed it a day later? No, he filed it a day before. It was classic. Because Barstool is Barstool, and he didn't know what to sue.
Starting point is 00:59:14 He sued BarstoolSports.com, but that's not a thing. Or he sued Barstool LLC, and it's like you have to sue Barstool Sports. And because he's a little ambulance chaser, he likes to wait until the last possible second. He's a little ambulance chaser who hates when mezz until the last possible second. He's a little ambulance chaser who hates when mesocytes call him a pedophile. Fuck that guy. This fucking pussy won't let me call him a pedophile. He waited to literally 364 days. After a year goes by, you can't file a suit anymore. So he's filing on the last day to be a dick.
Starting point is 00:59:41 But that also left him no time to fix the error. Otherwise, we would have just been – I mean I never – I remember speaking to Dave and he was just like, yeah, I mean he's right. Like we're going to lose this lawsuit and like we're done. I was just like, sorry? I never felt so bad about something in my life. I was just like, I can't believe I did. Like I don't know. I ruined Barstool.
Starting point is 01:00:04 Like that's it. Never felt a weight off my shoulders like that. Oh my life. I was just like, I can't believe I did it. I don't know. I ruined Barstool. That's it. Never felt a weight off my shoulders like that. Oh my god, I can't imagine. Oh, that, how we had a bunch of shell companies is still so confusing to this day. Purple Starfish. The owner of that.
Starting point is 01:00:18 When I go on our fucking back end, our HR, whatever the fuck you call it, where I have to get my W-2 or whatever I have to get and it's like, which company do you work for now, currently? And it will list like five for me. Really? And it's like, Barstool Sports, in one word. Barstool Sports. Purple Starfish.
Starting point is 01:00:36 And I'm like, I don't fucking... At that point it's a multiple choice test. There's like Barstool Sports comma Inc. I'm like, that one's got punctuation, it must be that one. It's not that one anymore. Have you ever seen on our website the organizational chart? Oh, yeah. Throw me that pen.
Starting point is 01:00:53 It's like a complete family tree, right? Yeah, but it goes like this. It goes like Dave. Yep. And then it goes. And it's the whole company. Everyone else is, Dave. Yep. And then it goes. And it's the whole company. Everyone else is below Dave. Which is so crazy because clearly that's not what it is.
Starting point is 01:01:12 No. But in a way it is. But it is. For content only. Huh? For content only. But I mean even with content. But no, but I think what you're saying is the opposite.
Starting point is 01:01:22 I think it's literally it is this where it's like practically it's not. Right, right, right. But I think if you're saying is the opposite. I think it's literally it is this where it's like practically it's not. But I think if you're – It's like Vince McMahon. I think director of content. Yeah, it's Vince McMahon. He's at the top even if it's not in title or whatever. He is still – but there's so many people now that you have to scroll. There's just a million people under one.
Starting point is 01:01:40 It's like why even do this chart? I also just got the yearly performance review email which we get every year and i've never had one six years i this year though i got it from someone that i didn't recognize the name and it made me upset because i used to get like za will be completing your performance i always got za and then like one time i had to do i never did it but like it ended up getting canceled like i was supposed to do like Daniela's. Oh, you were given the review? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:08 What would you say to Daniela? I have no idea. She had booked flights at that point? What was she doing? No, because it was at this office. Okay. I got something the other day. I think I was – was I talking to you?
Starting point is 01:02:18 And I said like I'm just going to ignore that and pretend it didn't happen. My performance review is tomorrow, so I'll let you guys know. Are you going to have it? I don't know. Is it in a conference room? Is it like a link? I got an email. If you go to that, I will fire you.
Starting point is 01:02:30 You'll disown me? No, that is – you do not go to that. It's from someone, so I don't want to leave someone – I didn't recognize the name. Exactly. They don't review you. They don't know you. You do not go to that. See, I –
Starting point is 01:02:41 That's the test. I know what that is. What is it? Nick says I know what that is. What is it? Nick says he knows what that is. That's company-wide, like, this is what performance review should be. It's teaching you what you can ask for. Oh, so it's a lesson. It's a lesson, but they...
Starting point is 01:02:57 It's not a one-on-one. The entire company got it. Okay, that's what I got. See, there we go. That makes way more sense. This is an HR thing to say, here's how to do a performance review. I prepared a whole fucking thing to show in my performance review. Are you kidding me?
Starting point is 01:03:12 I looked at my analytics for the last year. You made a presentation? Not a presentation, but I wrote down how many blogs I had, my intricate numbers on YouTube, how many videos published, how many were shorts, how many TikToks published. You're in the comments and you're making PowerPoints? You're a made man, Bob. I was like, ain't nobody sitting across from me in this performance review that doesn't know how much work I do telling me to do more work.
Starting point is 01:03:33 I fucking TikTok last year. Bob, you are a made man. You don't need to do these things. That is the lesson. Like if you get a review at Barstool Sports, you're nobody. You know what I mean? If you've got to sit down with somebody
Starting point is 01:03:47 and they tell you something, you're nobody. It's the fear. Again, it's like, I was hired at a time where fear was instilled and it's going to stick with me. I talked to Clem about it.
Starting point is 01:03:55 Clem still has the fear. Yeah, no. Do you think any hire in 2022 has fear? It's like, it stems from Dave. It was the episode we did with like,
Starting point is 01:04:03 we were talking about the whole how someone will react now after the Rico stuff. It'll be like, like, he doesn't fire anyone for anything. I don't fucking care about that. I was like, I still will be. Right. I'll still be scared. New people.
Starting point is 01:04:13 So I can see how new people won't be. New people will say, yeah, Dave doesn't fire anybody. He's a softy. But old people are like, no. Because you know what it is? It's like, you know what was worse than getting fired was, like, getting clowned. Getting clowned on the radio. You know, like, getting called on the radio,? It's like, you know what was worse than getting fired was, like, getting clowned. Getting clowned on the radio. You know, like, getting called on the radio, getting called, like, lazy.
Starting point is 01:04:29 Like, people thinking. Nothing worse than that. Like, the Barstool fans thinking that you were lazy. Bad. Yeah. It was, like, way worse than losing your job at Barstool. Yes. You know?
Starting point is 01:04:39 For better or worse. I remember asking Dave that once. I was like, can we just, like, sometimes do things in-house? And he's like, get the fuck out of my office. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was back at Milton, obviously. So it wasn't. I mean,, can we just like sometimes do things in-house? And he's like, get the fuck out of my office. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was back at Milton, obviously. So it wasn't – I mean it was his office, but there was no door.
Starting point is 01:04:56 I was trying to pinpoint because you had like moments like that where you were like – you asked and had an interaction. Like our relationship – and it was kind of like a three-way thing with Dan. I guess I can't speak for Dan, but I know that like it just devolved over the time on the rundown there was never a moment where i was like hey man can we just like relax a little bit with this or that or like how about we do it this way so that doesn't drive me great you know it was just like deflategate i think just killed us and then it was like by the end of deflategate we were just like enemies you know and and then it was you know i would never even dream to ask like hey can we do things differently because it was like well fuck you you know but he said he hated radio i i i i there were times where that radio show was like a grind yeah where we were like really
Starting point is 01:05:37 going at it but for the most part i thought it was like a good radio show so i was so good yeah and he was like i hated every moment of it because it was like so but i almost wore that as like a badge of honor because he was like he was so taxing it was like we disagreed on everything we were always fighting and i was like fuck yeah we were but i could see him being like not liking that whereas i i grew up on like sports radio and that that sort of like yeah confrontation is good so i was like we were putting out like yeah it's like it was almost like i know it was a struggle but we were putting out like yeah, it was almost like I know it was a struggle, but we were putting out like classic content. So I was okay with it, whereas he's like, I don't give a fuck. Like how – look at the clips that come from that office and the clips that come from this office and just the serious.
Starting point is 01:06:13 Yeah. Serious alone. Right. The old days like have a thousand clips where it's like – Yeah, I mean – The shittiest office, like the walls falling apart too. Like we would bring like – The shittiest office we thought were like, whoa.
Starting point is 01:06:24 Yeah. The initial studios at the old office, I was like, I finally have my own home to record in. It was like, what was it called? Adam Pally called it a white person's trap house. He said it looks like the inside of a lit cigarette. Yes. Yeah, that's accurate. But I do think there's hope.
Starting point is 01:06:41 I think that there is a – Well, I think that's – I think – and if I could toot our own horns a bit, I guess. I think that there is – I think that was the problem and that became the problem where it was like if you're going to go on someone's show, it's because you're in trouble. Yes. Or you're fighting. Or the date was going to yell at you. Yes. Or the yak was going to haze you.
Starting point is 01:06:58 Yeah, yeah. And it's like I think we kind of – Just come and hang out. I think we kind of just be like – and those are all different kinds of obviously successful and great content. But I think ours is more just like – That's what it is. It's just chilling. You can't question Dave's approach because it got half a billion dollars.
Starting point is 01:07:14 But I'm always like what if a tweak here and there got us a full billion? Yes. Just because this succeeded doesn't mean that this other thing couldn't have made it that much better. What if Dave started the Dave Portnoy Show when you first told him to podcast? I mean there's a million ways. What if? You know, like those are epic. Right.
Starting point is 01:07:29 Like if – yeah, if he took – he would have like a Joe Rogan type show if he podcasted that way. But I think that having – there's also just like little things that like Dave was never going to run an office that like where people are cool with each other. And I think you can have that I think you can have like music playing and people relaxing and having fun with each other and you do these little things that are probably a little bit corny and like not so natural but that makes this atmosphere too too we did oh aloha fridays yeah like Hawaiian shirts I was gonna say like little things like that. Little fun, stupid shit like that. We used to do Jersey Day and all that shit. But then also, you know what the problem with that is? We were still small enough.
Starting point is 01:08:09 Now, it's corporate. Because we're too big now. If you do Aloha Fridays now, it's a corporate thing. If we did some sort of... Also, we just drank all day. We started drinking at 10 a.m. Dan was passing drinks to everyone in the office from his desk, too. It's not a big office.
Starting point is 01:08:25 We were so on top of each other. He was like, hey, the 12 people that work here, I made you all drinks. But you know what is funny? You guys did a weight loss challenge and it was like the best piece of content ever
Starting point is 01:08:34 when HR said, let's do a steps competition. We were like, this shit sucks. Fuck this. Bro, it's the perfect, it's the exact, you either die a hero or live long
Starting point is 01:08:45 That stuff is fun in a small environment But I think I think there's like a middle ground Where it's like we're not going to make you do this We're not going to put HR all over it It's just like this is a place to hang out And have some fun I think Chicago opening is going to help that for us
Starting point is 01:09:01 The New York office I think it's going to give the New York office Almost the old school Chicago vibe of like, now we're the island over here doing entertainment, doing that fun stuff. Yeah, gambling's over there and Dave's doing that. We're almost
Starting point is 01:09:16 the misfits here. This could be the tight-knit misfits who actually have group content and stuff like that. I think we can just revive the fuck out of the rundown. The rundown has really slipped so hard. If we just put an ounce of effort into that and turn that back into a daily show that everyone looks forward to,
Starting point is 01:09:30 that alone would raise spirits. So I think a lot of good things are yet to come, and I think you're going to be a very big part of it, Bob. I hope so, yeah. Like I said, made man. Stop going to the comments and making presentations. Made man seems like a bit much. I'm still getting the threshold emails.
Starting point is 01:09:45 You go to London with Dave. You're a made man. You're going to fucking Star Wars with Dave. You're a made man. You think Dave would go to a fucking trip to Disney when someone was not a made man? By the way, I almost didn't send the picture of me. I almost sent the South
Starting point is 01:10:01 Park picture of me with cum all over myself. And I was like, let me keep it classic. It's a business tag. Come on. All right. So everybody go watch Bob. I know you had like your biggest year yet and millions of views on my mom's basement, right? Yeah, mine was a 7.2 according to the spreadsheet I just made for my
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