KFC Radio - Rone Says There's Two Avenues to Success: Grift or Golf

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Starting point is 00:02:11 I think they would be like, get the fuck out of here. Well, my specific point in that was that their perspective flows from them. And I feel like my perspective, I feel like especially as I'm kind of like have been finding my voice like as a content creator i don't know what my perspective this is interesting i like this see i this is interesting couldn't disagree with you more as someone who watched prone.com this morning yeah i was gonna say i was a new show like but like i don't know what i think about the world like i don't know what i think about like i don't know what my opinions on things are you know okay i don't have like a perspective like that where it's like this is fucking right and this is wrong and i know okay i don't have like a perspective like that where it's like this is

Starting point is 00:02:45 fucking right and this is wrong and i know okay i'm so happy you said that because i i feel like having been doing this for as long as i have i hate the like i follow so many people so many influencers right and every time a story comes out they put out like a video on it or a take on it and i'm like you just know everything huh like you you you have the answer for every single story that's even remotely close to your field huh i don't i don't mind having an opinion but everybody purports themselves as like an expert you know yeah but i also think it doesn't put asses in the seats if i make a video being like i don't know really what i'm talking about but here's my thoughts. People want to hear some shit.

Starting point is 00:03:25 Or if you consider both perspectives. Well, that's the other thing. Yeah, if you middleman it, it's like, pick a side, you know? I think we got all three fucking, I don't know what Jackie's stance on this is. I literally was just going to say, on Fishbowl, every time you walk by, we're like, he's so goddamn cool. He's so goddamn cool. That's nice of you.

Starting point is 00:03:40 We all agree. That's cool. That's nice of you. You definitely got the cool factor. As far as perspectives go, I actually recently had an epiphany. It's kind of more

Starting point is 00:03:52 of a New Year's resolution. I'm reading a lot more magazines this year. Where are you finding them? I'm done with the news. Where are they? I'm done with newspapers. I'm done with the internet.

Starting point is 00:04:01 You're going to the rack and you're pulling them out? I'm buying fucking magazines, dude. I'm getting subscriptions to magazines why not newspapers but magazines too quick everything's too quick i don't need i don't need every update you want like a weekly i'll fucking sort it out and then tell me i don't agree with that i don't fucking need every day he's a problem like the the one of the things that made me decide like i'm tired of following this shit what is it baldoni where it's like every day they have a new response.

Starting point is 00:04:26 It's like, you two figure it the fuck out, and then tell me when you come to a conclusion. I don't need every day. Magazines are incredible. Do you know what magazines are? Have you heard of them? You've got to zoom out. If you're writing an article for a publication, you have to zoom out, and it's got to be like, well, this has to stand. This has to be relevant for like a year basically like in three weeks but honestly

Starting point is 00:04:49 people are gonna grab that like that you used to grab like if you're in a doctor's office or whatever you grab it you're like this is from march but like you still read it yeah yeah right so it's still gonna have it can be dated obviously but like it should stand up for a pretty long time i got a subscription to i got a subscription to Vanity Fair, The Atlantic. I've always had The New Yorker. And I'm looking for one more. Oh, he's in the market. If you run a magazine, hit up your boy, Final Bird.

Starting point is 00:05:15 When I was in high school and college, I used to subscribe to Esquire and GQ. I was like, this is what it means to be a man. Yes. Every guy was like, here's how I'm going to dress. Here's what I'm going to buy. Here's what I need to have hanging on my walls. Dude, it's like all that shit. What I am is just the GQ ask a bartender.

Starting point is 00:05:36 Yeah. I'm just that page come to life. But you know what? Remember? I mean, it's funny because I ended up thinking he was kind of like a blowhard loser. But Tom Riley, right? Tom Riley? Rick Riley.

Starting point is 00:05:48 Rick Riley. Oh, yes, yes, yes. Back at the last page of Sports Illustrated. It was always a good thing. I would flip to that first, and it was like known. Rick Riley, page two, that Ask a Bartender. I was like, I have to read this every article. You grew up on Seventeen Magazine?

Starting point is 00:06:01 Seventeen Magazine. Anything else? I don't think the names but like the girly ones. Cosmopolitan. Cosmopolitan. That was almost like a list of like 50 things to do when you get your period. Dude, that was almost a lot. And like, you know, it was like 300 ways to please your man.

Starting point is 00:06:16 It was all, yeah, lists. Yeah, please your man. That was a big one. I think Patrice O'Neill has a joke. He's like, it's 300 ways to please your man. Suck his dick, fix his, it's Chappelle. Suck his dick, fix his sandwich, be quiet. Wait, there's not 300 ways to please us. It was always like his it's Chappelle suck his dick fix his sandwich be quiet there's not 300 ways

Starting point is 00:06:25 to please us it was always like use ice cubes yeah yeah put an ice cube up his ass while you pull on his earlobes I love it I was like

Starting point is 00:06:33 I remember being young getting a blowjob with an ice cube and I was like god damn this is crazy bro when I was young

Starting point is 00:06:41 you could give me a blowjob with fucking fire in your mouth I'd be like yes whatever she'd have it likejob with fucking fire in your mouth. I'd be like, yeah. I swear to God. You know? She'd have it like in her cheek? Like in her mouth.

Starting point is 00:06:50 I couldn't do it. My teeth are too sensitive. I could never have an ice cube in my mouth while a dick is in my mouth. I'd be like, oh, hey, I had a cold. Yeah, that's it, John. The only reason you don't suck dick. What's the worst, the dick or the ice cube? The cube. The cube.

Starting point is 00:07:03 Honestly, what's more painful? Probably the ice cube the cube honestly what's more painful probably the ice cube what was 17 is that like a bunch of pictures of like celebrities and it's like these two are dating or is that like people

Starting point is 00:07:11 yeah it was kind of like that was people that was when I read it was like the side by side like who wore it better but 17 was a lot of like it was like most embarrassing stories

Starting point is 00:07:20 and like stuff like that like a lot of segments-ish like I remember I remember like there was like this whole section that everyone loved that was like most like write-ins or what would you do or all this people love that shit man do you remember the lowest i think the lowest barstool has ever been do you remember those whisper posts they were called whispers it brings about what is that like do do moi type of shit? It was kind of, it was, like, personal.

Starting point is 00:07:46 It was anonymous. Is it the old office? Yeah, it was the old editor we legally cannot talk about anymore. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Rihanna guy. I didn't know that was him, but yeah, I remember that. And to be fair, he was brought into Ray's page views, and these fucking people click on it. But it was just, like, an anonymous little, like, blurb that was, like, one time, like like i was sleeping at my boyfriend's house and i like fucked my ex in the in the kitchen

Starting point is 00:08:08 while he like didn't know that's it it just said that and people would just read these things like oh yes yes yes i remember and i remember them like being like top of the blog and i was like we're going in a bad direction i don't care how many clicks this is getting this is yeah there would be like a stylized picture and the text would be like over the picture It would be like a martini glass I remember like in Seventeen Magazine The worst one I remember And I don't even know why it sticks out to me

Starting point is 00:08:34 Is like this girl was like I like had a face mask on And then my dog ran out And then like I saw my crush or whatever And I remember being like Then like I grew up and I was like Yo I just threw up on a dick and he said,

Starting point is 00:08:46 you don't chew enough, I don't think. That is Jackie's crazy story. That's not even my thing. It was the most, maybe the most uncomfortable I've ever been. It was like,

Starting point is 00:08:58 it's like your daughter telling you. The nerve of that guy, though, it's like, how about you just be happy I was really putting in a good effort how about you never

Starting point is 00:09:08 get a blowjob again oh he gave you attitude he said you don't chew your food enough see I think that's the funniest response possible no it was hilarious

Starting point is 00:09:16 it was hilarious yeah I'm sure at the time it was so funny god damn is that a half a Big Mac you swallowed this hot dog whole like a dog

Starting point is 00:09:26 it's like spaghetti too so it's like you could physically like a tape you start putting rocks in jackie's food like a puppy but i but i want to say more about ran.com before we got too far again speaking about perspectives and stuff like that I thought it was so cool I thought the show

Starting point is 00:09:50 was awesome actually to give you the highest compliment possible I woke up about 8.50 and I was like oh Roan.com is about to start

Starting point is 00:09:58 my phone's right here I'll pop it on and I watched like 10 minutes on my phone and said you know what I'm moving it to the big screen oh you bumped me up you bumped moving it to the big screen.

Starting point is 00:10:05 Oh! You bumped me up. You bumped me up to the big screen, dude. No promotion, dog. That's love. It was probably because you just actually wanted to be on your phone. But you wanted to give me the love and the support. It was awesome. But I liked that you were just like, we were talking about answers and stuff like that.

Starting point is 00:10:20 You were like, look, we're going to figure it out. Right. And you're the kind of guy who we want to be on the ride with. Yeah. I feel like a lot of people will do that for you like like i i think very few people can just kind of like freestyle it and trust that like people will will be along for the ride like there are some people i think you gotta deliver like yeah but they were also like you know 40 unbelievable ideas i can't wait to see yeah i think that it's like i want to make sure that there is a baseline of like some idea

Starting point is 00:10:48 that I came up with so I'm not just like hey you guys tell me what to do I think that's lazy but I think having it be influenced by people who are watching is good but like letting them pick instead of letting them dictate I think it's like a little bit easier but also I keep on comparing it to like the first episode

Starting point is 00:11:04 of The Simpsons. Not that it's ever going to be like that. I don't even care about the success of it. More it's about doing it. But the first episode of The Simpsons, the voices weren't the same. The animation wasn't the same. The level of jokes wasn't the same. I think it will build into something that's interesting.

Starting point is 00:11:17 But for me, more the joy will be in just doing the work as opposed to getting the feedback. I think we're all getting to that spot which is cool to see totally it's like you know you still have to perform and it's still a job and make money and all that but a lot of us are all relatively in the same age group and been around long enough like even there used to be a time where like there were people here for a long time and people here for a short time and now it's like long time versus longer time yeah once you're once you're you know in it for like a decade or whatever you're you're here just as much as anybody you know what i mean so like we're all at least most of us are like in that spot where where we've been here long enough that i think it's time to uh people are realizing like just do what what you want you

Starting point is 00:11:56 know and just like the there will be feedback but like if you let that dictate it like that is the one way ticket to mental health problems. That's a fine line, man. That's one of the braver things about it. I said earlier yesterday when you announced it, I was like, doing a morning show is incredibly brave. I can't do a morning show. It's just not going to happen. I'm never going to be able to do a live morning show.

Starting point is 00:12:18 I'm not that guy. I just don't know. In some ways, it's a morning show because it happens in the mornings, but I'm not talking about the weather and traffic. I think John literally means the time of day. I mean waking up. No, no, no. I mean you can't miss an alarm, dude. If you miss an alarm, the show doesn't happen.

Starting point is 00:12:35 That's too much pressure. It's because I'm going to have kids. Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm not going to be able to sleep in, and God knows I'm not going to want to be at the house taking care of kids. I'm not going to be I'm not going to be able To sleep in And God knows I'm not going to want to be At the house taking care of you I'm not going to want to raise you For me These people who are like

Starting point is 00:12:49 I want like six months Paternity leave I was like two weeks See you later That shit is crazy I think people I think we get four months Paternity leave

Starting point is 00:12:56 Yeah it's crazy these days I can't Yeah Because like You have ads Sold for your show You know what I mean Like you can't just not

Starting point is 00:13:03 Be on the show for There are you you know, two people in this world and I think both of them are valid. People would take four months of attorney leave and people don't. And you can do both. And I'm cool with both. I just know which one I am and which one I am not. But like,

Starting point is 00:13:18 maybe if it didn't matter if I was just like pushing numbers or something like that. Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. But it's like my success is determined by my output. And it's like, I need to have good output. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:13:27 That was another part that got me jacked up. Your whole first like, I want responsibility. I want that pressure on me. I was like, let's get on, bro. Let's fucking go. It's so much better to work than to get feedback about your work. It's so much better to work than be thinking about it. It's just so much better to do stuff. It's like doing stuff is like when you realize that it's like

Starting point is 00:13:48 miley cyrus shit but it's like the the journey is the destination type of shit like when we did our best work i was never looking at results money feedback i was just doing it like even like even before barstool i was just writing for fun yeah I didn't know that I was reading it yeah right right I think about it now I'm like I just cannot get going

Starting point is 00:14:10 on TikTok like I just I use it every day multiple times a day I do exactly what I do on Instagram it does well and it just does not work

Starting point is 00:14:16 on TikTok and it's like you know because the views are right there you know what I mean it's like you see it I just did 200 views

Starting point is 00:14:24 I'm like this is impossible you know and then you'll get someone who's just talking like with their mouth full like through a makeup and they have like 20 million views but there was a time where i would if i if you told me that 200 people read my blog i would have been like i went viral yo and it's obviously it's all different becomes your job how you earn there's different levels to it but i was like i try to remember that time it was like i there were times where i was like not going out i would be like the guys are going out we're gonna go watch the game and i was like i'm staying in to write a blog for for not for for my previous site no one was going to read it i just wanted to finish this little piece that was your enjoyment activity yes yes like last night i got home from work.

Starting point is 00:15:05 I didn't like, I wasn't like watching TV. I wasn't scrolling. I was just like trying to write out ideas and work on stuff for this. And then I went to bed. It was like, that was my leisure activity. He was doing something that I found entertaining for work. Like I thought that was the best way to do it. We've talked about that before with Hot with Jackie Hobbies.

Starting point is 00:15:19 Where I'm like, I don't know. I find work to be a bit of a hobby of mine. Like I like doing it. It's fun. Yeah. And you're like, that's not, that doesn't count. You don't have hobbies. I'm like, I don't know. I find work to be a bit of a hobby of mine. I like doing it. It's fun. Yeah, it's nice. That doesn't count. You don't have hobbies. I kind of do, I think.

Starting point is 00:15:29 I enjoy it. Yeah. Yeah, that's valid. I also feel like because of TikTok, everyone's in a let them cook mindset where it's like we saw all these creators start small and then they just ended up blowing up and they just stuck with it. And now with the TikTok ban thing, I know it's like a lot of people jumped onto reels or like started youtubes and everyone's kind of like how like so much more supportive rather than like

Starting point is 00:15:52 cringe i feel like like even my mindset's like oh my god they're going for it that's cool rather than i feel like i would have been like oh that's so cringe but like and i feel like i've talked to my friends and they're like wow like that's smart of them to get on because everyone's just like let them cook. Like, yeah, let's see how this plays out because of the Charlie. Dude, if the world could just get a little looser with clicking subscribe or a click and like or whatever, everybody would win. Do it more. And everybody, you know what I mean?

Starting point is 00:16:17 It costs you nothing. It does nothing for you. And it can like make or break somebody. I finally I've been trying to like really crack the youtube nut for a long time now and like if you really want to do youtube right you have to like pick a thing pick a lane and just do that and i just can't do that it's just i don't have any expertise in anything and i don't have any one thing that i want to talk about all the time that also would be interested have interested people have interest in so i i just said fuck it and i just started like i have kfc barstool on twitter instagram and now i just did

Starting point is 00:16:50 kfc barstool on youtube and i just put everything on there and i don't know if it's gonna work that's good it probably won't because like i'm pretty sure i understand how these algorithms work and shit but i was like when we i'm just taking the blog mentality the most success we ever had was doing a blog and doing a podcast where we just like rip it. I'm just going to rip it. And like, you know, I put five videos up in a day. Like the one about the Bill Burr thing got like 1,200 views overnight with no subscribers.

Starting point is 00:17:14 All right, we're getting some traction. Another one, it literally said the words, no views. It didn't even say zero. It said no views. How is that possible? I don't know. But I was like, at the very least i'm gonna use all of this information down the line you know what i mean yeah yeah and i and it stopped

Starting point is 00:17:31 me so many times i've tried this youtube thing so many times and i'm like i did a game of thrones video and it popped off i'm like oh all right i'm gonna talk just about game of thrones i don't want to talk about just game of thrones every day that's not talking about eminem's album that popped off i like rap i don't think i can make like a whole channel of it but if you bounce around people don't seem to really subscribe or continue to fall follow and i was like i don't know man i still think i'm gonna do it my way and hopefully it fucking works that it is a weird thing with the internet where like it's it's and like we've lived through like multiple iterations of it where like when i feel like when barstool first started it was better to be jack-of-all-trades,

Starting point is 00:18:07 not no master. And then it went more master. And then I think more... It's so hard talking about the internet because it's all so catered to you. But most of the stuff I see now is a lot of people being like, I don't know, I'm trying something new.

Starting point is 00:18:21 And I don't know if that's because of my algorithm or whatever, but in my head, that's the newer wave again. I think the algorithm fucked it all up, man. I don't believe in the algorithm. You think it's fake? Meaning like there's not even like, what do you mean? I think that, first of all, I do obviously believe there is an algorithm. But it sounds so good to say.

Starting point is 00:18:41 I think like humanity, we always need someone to blame or someone to thank or someone to, like, be, like, humble about and be like, yeah, it's just we got lucky algorithm or. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's like it's just how we referred to God in the past. It's like the algorithm fucked me and I didn't get anything or the algorithm praised me and blessed me. Like, I don't know. I'm sure. Yes, I believe the algorithm exists. Of of course it just used to be like more you know you had to like put barstool sports into a fucking url and go there you know what i mean so everybody all the

Starting point is 00:19:14 fans that we had were fans because they were going to it and now it's like now even dot com like dot com even me putting dot com in the name is like, it's like referential to an older time. Like on purpose. Right. It's like nostalgic to be like, oh, dot com. Remember dot coms? There are still dot coms everywhere. I mean, I used to like have my rotation of blogs.

Starting point is 00:19:34 Type it in. Type it in. Type it in like every time. And now it's just fed to you. And it's like, you know, the algorithm figures you out a little bit. But it's also like, I think it's the amount of times that people will send me a video. And I'm like, that was just in my algorithm, too. And it's like, we're all in the same algorithm. And I guess maybe, you know, they're all.

Starting point is 00:19:52 That's actually another reason I really liked Rowan.com is because you were showing videos that I feel like everyone just sends the same 10 videos every week. Yeah, right. And you had like, I had to eventually get in the shower so I could be here in time for this. But I got in the shower right around time. you were showing like the kid battle wrapping the potato. Yeah. And then there was – when I got out of the shower, there was a video, a young video of Sass walking around. I think it's cool that you're like curating. I don't know.

Starting point is 00:20:16 Again, exactly what you're talking about. You're like, this is just the shit I like. Right. I'm just trying to make my own algorithm basically. But I also – the Sass stuff or just like I want to shine light on people who are doing well within Barstool too. So I was like just showing videos of like Nick and KB or Francis and shit like that. I think that that's like a little bit untapped. You think?

Starting point is 00:20:36 People at Barstool like praising other people at Barstool? I would say it's completely untapped. Yeah, that would be like a good thing going forward or just at least interesting going forward. I think that we all have one fallback option that none of us have taken and it is always sitting right there for us and that's the grift. We could political grift.

Starting point is 00:20:57 We could go left, right, hard as fuck. At this point, my biggest regret is not just going full-blown. Golf or grift. Golf or grift would be a great show. It's like a making the band type show where you're bringing up influencers, and you're in the golf house or the grift house. Yeah, you could go for golf or you could grift.

Starting point is 00:21:14 You know how easy? That was sitting right there for us. We would have – we were, like, leading the charge on that shit until it became, like, overly political and overly serious, and then I was like, I don't want to talk about this anymore. But if we just kept leaning into it, non-binary, blah, blah, blah. 100%. It would have gone crazy.

Starting point is 00:21:32 Dave would be Joe Rogan right now. Not that Dave is not already a massive star, but even Joe Rogan did it. He went from being big to mega just by leaning into you go mega when you go MAGA. It's just an easy thing. It's the absolute opposite of go woke, go broke. Go it's just an easy it's insane opposite of go go mega but but it's like uh there was a time where i was like i couldn't do that i can't

Starting point is 00:21:53 i don't think i could like live with myself not even because of the politics just because i'm like i'm living a lie or it's like yeah i don't really think that but also now i'm at the point where like i don't give a fuck right once you if i'm personally past that and like, yeah, I don't know, the liberal mob would come after me. Or if you went the other direction and the conservative mob came after you, it's like, I don't care. There's no dollars behind seeing both sides of an issue. You know what I mean? You can't make money by being like, this is a good point, but also there is this perspective behind it. And that is where the truth is, but there is absolutely no money in that space.

Starting point is 00:22:29 Which is nasty. So it's like, you either either lean into it or you pick up a fucking club and the golf thing always makes you laugh because that was tips at barcelsports.com the number one genre which was the email tips yeah sent in an email it might still be active i don't know like you know but for us bloggers to blog it for material for the bloggers the the number one email would just be like will you guys please make golf towels and i me and like i'd be like dave we got another one people like we're not doing these morons all people wanted was got and i don't know why we didn't make it it probably cost 10 cents to make that That's the cheapest fabric that there is. You know, $500 is insane.

Starting point is 00:23:08 If there was just one golfer in the original OG crew. Yeah. I mean, you know what's funny is Riggs was grift. Yeah, he was politics. Until he was golf. He was like, I'm out. He picked up the golf club and was like, oh, I can do this instead of talking about Donald Trump all day?

Starting point is 00:23:25 See you the fuck later. It's so much better, and it's so awesome. And it does sit there for any of us that want to jump on it, and it will be there. But can you live with yourself? Do you really believe it? Do they really believe it? The hell no. It just wouldn't be fun.

Starting point is 00:23:38 I'd rather have fun, and that's just not fun. Well, but it goes, you know, it's like you reach a spot in your job where you're lucky enough, blessed enough, did enough work previously to now just have fun. You know what I mean? Yeah. If you're really trying to make it right now for the first time though, it's a different story where it's like I don't have the luxury of just like I fuck around with my four friends here. It does well. It doesn't do amazing. It does well enough that we can all fucking live a great life.

Starting point is 00:24:01 If you're like I have nothing and I'm trying to make it, it's like you almost do have to pick a thing and sell out or obsess over it and you know there's like 17 year olds grifting now oh there's like 12 year old like uh like it sounds like a like weird sex term that the fucking mormons are grifting it's fucking gross what they're doing but I see 12 year like I see like 17 year olds

Starting point is 00:24:29 who are like being like debate me like Kamala should be the worst imagine being like in 6th grade

Starting point is 00:24:35 if you've ever said debate me you should kill yourself that's so bad debate me on anything anything you want debate me being like

Starting point is 00:24:41 a blanket debater who will just like I'll debate you on anything you want to fucking there's no merit there was an era where debate me was real big and it was always so like no i don't know i don't want to debate you no thank you it was like every twitter like debate me debate me why won't joe rogan debate me on his platform it's like because you're a fucking nobody and that's his you know an appearance on his platform? It's like, because you're a fucking nobody and that's, you know,

Starting point is 00:25:06 an appearance on his show is worth like $10 million, you asshole. That's what he used to say outside AT&T ballpark. Just like, why won't Barry Bonds go against me

Starting point is 00:25:13 in a home run derby? Why won't Barry Bonds go against me in a home run derby? I saw a video, I don't remember what the account was, but it was during that,

Starting point is 00:25:20 that trend of, I'm a blah, blah, blah. Of course I'm going to say, you know what I'm saying – Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it was like maybe 10, 12-year-old kids walking around being like, I'm a conservative kid. Of course I think Tom Hanks is talking about it. And I was like – it was like a little boy who should be like riding his bike and fucking climbing trees and shit. And he's talking about the election.

Starting point is 00:25:41 I'm like, oh. And he probably has a fucking bigger house than any of us, dude. He probably is fucking rolling in it because it's such a good grift, dude. It's an incredible grift. But you don't come up with that shit on your own. You have to be influenced to that.

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Starting point is 00:29:24 see dkng.co slash audio. Andrew Tate. Or just that influence, you know what I mean? What's your plan as far as your kids, like... Internet consumption? Yeah, or obviously, like, people are, like, you can use a fucking screen. Like, people are crazy about screen time shit.

Starting point is 00:29:40 I'm cool with screen time. I do worry about the internet a little bit. So Shay, I made a TikTok for Shay that is like, you can't find it. She can't watch anything. Nobody can find her. It's basically just for her to be able to like, in the beginning, she was using my phone, making videos, and then just like saving them as drafts.

Starting point is 00:30:04 She was using my phone, so goddamn much. And I just saving them as drafts. She was using my phone. So God damn. I put it on like a tablet. We can't be both addicted to the problem. So she started making like little videos, like totally harmless. Nobody not getting posted at all, whatever. And then the ban happened. And she woke up and was like, can I go, like, make TikTok videos?

Starting point is 00:30:25 And I was like, yeah, it got banned. And she was like, what? And she – it was scary but kind of funny. Like, the light bulb went off in her head. She goes, dad, I couldn't go without it for, like, two hours. I was like, that's how that internet shit works, man. So it was, like, eye-opening. I was like – because part of me is very you know in

Starting point is 00:30:45 a way i'm very pro it because i think you know look at all all this stuff i think is awesome but i also know like the dark side of it too so i was very torn and seeing that i was like oh boy this is you could really become one of those kids your face is just buried in tiktok and like you know go touch grass sort of shit but it was like yeah that's tough and have you guys seen that have any of you clicked on the TikTok, the STEM tab? I always see that, but I never click on it.

Starting point is 00:31:09 It's like science, technology, engineering, math. Engineering, mechanics, math. Or I don't know. I clicked on it, and it's like all educational. I guess that's what they have in China, maybe. That's all they're feeding them.

Starting point is 00:31:20 But I couldn't... Literally, they don't feed them food either. Yeah, literally. But I couldn't keep up with one like one thing that they were explaining or like they're like explaining like calculus and i just couldn't keep up with it and i don't know if i'm getting dumber or if this these are high level ideas or like there is some value i mean like my playing video games my my kid has learned to read way better yeah learn like all the rules of sports by playing video games. I do think there is some value in that stuff.

Starting point is 00:31:48 And if you're watching engineering videos, I don't see how people can say that's bad just because it's on a physical screen as opposed to a magazine. At some point, it's just what the device, the medium that they're consuming it is the problem. Because if it's all good stuff and it's all educational, what's the difference between a teacher standing there and a YouTube video standing there? You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. But there is that element of like when they're just stuck there. I guess that's the thing. I've never thought about it as like how it is for parents until I'm in this situation where I'm going to be a parent.

Starting point is 00:32:19 And it does seem like fucking thankless. Like you either have to be their tiktok or you put them on tiktok you have to be so entertaining that they're gonna get that same dopamine hit to their brain by like the new things that you're giving them it's like what do you buy a kid a toy every hour like i don't understand listen if you're if you are one of these parents that limit screen time to like an hour a day and you can fill the rest of those hours god bless you you are an amazing parent truly again like the paternity leave thing i'm just not one of those i. God bless you. You are an amazing parent, truly. Again, like the paternity leave thing. I'm just not one of those.

Starting point is 00:32:47 I can't. I don't know. I play with my kids a lot. I talk to them a lot. I do a lot of shit. And there's still so many hours in a day to kill time where it's like, yeah, I'll just go play video games or watch the tablet. I can't not. I think the dollar, just speaking from the one group of friends I have who have two kids, they said their first kid, they were very vigilant about – you're not on the screen all the time, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Starting point is 00:33:10 But then when the second kid got in the mix, they were like, take your tablet and fuck off. And then when you think about third or fourth, it's like you're raised by wolves. It's like, go ahead. Do you think that people are more depressed now because of the internet or do you think that it's just like people have more terms for depression now or like more access to the idea of depression bro it's a great question i literally was making notes for this show uh last night and i have uh where is it i also sometimes think like like social media in sorry to just sorry okay but but like if you rewire your brain a little bit like i feel like i used to get a lot of fomo on instagram now or whatever and then i would see things i'd be like oh i don't have that those clothes that body whatever but then i was like

Starting point is 00:33:58 okay but if they can get it then i can get it so then now i kind of go on and i feel like inspired like when i see something like oh then that it's like when somebody breaks like a four minute mile, that means like a bunch of people, then everyone can do it. Yeah, you gotta see someone do it before you believe you can do it. Exactly. So then sometimes I'm like, oh my God, if they can do it, like what's stopping me? Like I've been, you know, blessed to be born, whatever.

Starting point is 00:34:16 And then also like, I think Instagram, sometimes like you're able to present yourself in a way, like sometimes in order to like, if you want to rebrand yourself or whatever you have to like a big factor that is having other people see you as that because a lot of times you see yourself through other people's eyes so if you present yourself like if all of a sudden i was like this badass goth chick and i and i don't have the personality back that up right now you Right now. Give yourself the chance. But if I start posting pictures and they be like,

Starting point is 00:34:49 like, rawr, you know, like, whatever, then you guys start to be, and, like, then you guys are kind of like, oh, shit, she got a little bit of an edge to her. And then you guys kind of treat me like, like, if done right. Like, imagine, again, if done right, then you guys start to treat me like I i'm totally this badass bitch so it kind of

Starting point is 00:35:05 like you can also use social media as bad as it is like you can use it in the right ways to like leverage yourself like if i want to rebrand myself you just do it by the way i'm becoming a god fucking uh like literally what you're describing is machine gun kelly yeah like he just and he just did it and yeah there was some people either making fun of it, Eminem made you quit rap, or you suck at this, or whatever. But he just kept doing it, and now he's that. And it worked out

Starting point is 00:35:33 pretty fucking well. The amount of people, it's the grift. If tomorrow, I just started being this political guy, there'd be people like, what the fuck? And in a year from now, I'd have a whole new following that doesn't realize that I just like did this. You know, look at Kirk Minahan.

Starting point is 00:35:47 Kirk Minahan is, you know, him and the Kirk Minahan sisters of the poor. Like it's just like you find this new audience, you just do this thing and it doesn't really matter.

Starting point is 00:35:55 It doesn't matter. Social media is bad and everything but we also have this tool now to like level up in life that we didn't have before. Use it, right. So we're anti-depression.

Starting point is 00:36:04 We're like anti-depression we're we're like anti-depression internet it's like an empowered internet first of all i like how that question started with you going like do we think like we're mental illnesses where's that at and jackie was like i might be goth at least for halloween at least for hallow Halloween dress up I am I am legitimately trying to work on having a little bit of an edge I want to just kind of be like like people be like

Starting point is 00:36:29 oh that's been nice what do you think for a while do more drugs get in fights you know what you think you don't have an edge I just don't think

Starting point is 00:36:36 like I have like that like kind of like oh she could snap at any moment factor in like like maybe like in a crazy way but not

Starting point is 00:36:41 not like she's gonna bite my hand every girl has had that on her. Working on it yet. But I think not snapping, I kind of feel like I have the same thing where I'm like, I'm not going to fucking just snap on someone and be like, shut the fuck up.

Starting point is 00:36:53 Because I have this, it's the same thing as being in the middle. It's like you also consider their opinion and their perspective and how it feels. Yeah, bro, it's called empathy. You're a regular fucking human. Yeah, that's what I mean. But I guess you just need to check that out of the door, I guess. Just snap on somebody. opinion and their perspective and how it feels empathy yeah regular fucking human but i guess someone you just need to check that out of the door i guess yeah well there is i mean i remember uh talking to early days when aj delorio ran deadspin he was kind of like a dave type figure

Starting point is 00:37:17 and like and there was a couple blogs that we respected or knew of or were big enough and um i think it was at the time where deadspin was like running you know dick pics and fucking leaked texts and man titayo shit you know and i remember dave being like delorio will step on his fucking grandmother's throat to get page views like he you just head down no consideration for anything else other than success if you you know if you do that you'll probably be successful i just yeah just watch that movie for how long though because what's aj deloria up to that's what i mean that's true you probably get burned out because you're like this isn't me like this is a toxic way to live my life totally but i just watched that movie the apprentice have you guys seen that the trump movie

Starting point is 00:37:55 it's it's interesting but it's about his like come up and it just it like he has that mindset too where it's just like i'm a killer yep i'm gonna be a killer a killer is a winner like just i mean he's the fascinating story if you can't you know whatever if you don't support his politics don't like him whatever there's but there's no denying that it's the movie's worth a watch it's very interesting i've heard it so good but i can't stand the well it's also it's a gay fuck fest oh all right i'm in I didn't even flinch. It's literally a gay fuckfest. His lawyer, Ray Cohn, is like a... No, Michael Cohn.

Starting point is 00:38:34 That's the one with the jail, right? The one with Jeremy Strong plays? Yes, yes, yes. That's a different guy. That guy, whatever. He's just like a gay guy, I guess. Or I don't know. And there's just scenes where it's literal I guess. Or I don't know. And there's just like scenes where it's like literal orgies.

Starting point is 00:38:48 But not with Donald, right? Not with the bug. But there's a scene where he like touches Donald's like upper thigh. Almost to suggest. You guys think what you want. Was that Sebastian Stan played him? He's played Sean. Yeah, he was talking about How little publicity and support it got

Starting point is 00:39:05 Because he wanted to do actor on actor And nobody would do it with him Really? They were like we're not talking about that movie It's negative about him though If you were like Hitler in a movie You know what I mean? People would talk to you about that

Starting point is 00:39:21 Christoph Walz probably did it after Yeah There have been villains and terrible people before. He won the Golden Globe for that? I don't know. He won the Golden Globe for something. He gave a speech about it. I'm sure it was that, yeah.

Starting point is 00:39:34 For The Apprentice? No, no, no. Because he said something. Because I remember he made sure he mentioned that. So he won it for a different man then. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the other movie I worked on was also great.

Starting point is 00:39:44 It was definitely like, hey, don't forget that one too. You guys were talking about Hitler in movies, and I've had this theory for a little bit that they're making Hitler too ugly in movies. That they're making Hitler super gross, like in Glorious Bastards they made him gross. Yeah, yeah. There's a show where he's bald as fuck, and he's always fixing himself super self-conscious. I think that by making Hitler super ugly,

Starting point is 00:40:10 it invalidates the fact that we can recognize that his ideas are bad. You know what I mean? Like if a hot guy said let's go kill everyone, you'd still be like, no. Yeah, exactly. It's like I don't need him to be ugly for me to realize his ideas are ugly. You don't need to ugly him up.

Starting point is 00:40:26 You might, but there are people out there. Like hot ass Hitler. How many people are like, I'll fuck Jeffrey Dahmer. That's what I'm saying. You put a hot guy in front of me. She just, she's. No, for the record, Hitler, like I'm for sure not with him. But an early Hitler?

Starting point is 00:40:40 An early Hitler? Before he was Hitler? But I don't want to. Early Stalin. Now we're talking. Now we're talking. And I seriously don't want to test it like keep hitler ugly but no i think i think that's our like number one test of a litmus of where we are as a society if like austin butler can be hitler and people are still like fuck nazis like pouty timothy chalamet iset as Hitler Chalamet could make Hitler hot

Starting point is 00:41:05 Like Hitler cool Remember that time I think it was Hitler It might have been Stalin It was Osama Bin Laden Remember on TikTok when Osama Bin Laden had a wave He wrote a letter He wrote a letter that was very Like you know

Starting point is 00:41:21 Liberal Idealistic And they were like Osama Bin Laden not so bad And I was like ban this fucking app Like, you know, liberal, woo-woo, like, idealistic. And they were like, oh, not so bad. I was like, ban this fucking app. Well, when you read most manifestos, you're like, guys, make it a point. Where they went wrong was the mass murder. It's not the ideology. It's the execution.

Starting point is 00:41:38 I remember watching Manhunter. Manhunter Unabomber. Unabomber. With the Unabomber. On Netflix. It's not on Netflix anymore but it's a great show it's with Sam

Starting point is 00:41:49 Sam Watterson Wotherspoon um fucking Paul Bettany plays the Unabomber yeah it's a great one

Starting point is 00:41:57 and I remember the episode where he's reading his manifesto and I was like this guy is fucking spinning it's fine yeah it's interesting

Starting point is 00:42:03 because you said about like the internet and the future is dead ass accurate. All the shit we were talking about today, he nailed that many years ago. He just decided to blow people up. No one cares about your manifesto if you don't put something behind it. Because you can't be that middleman. Yeah, exactly.

Starting point is 00:42:16 If you're younger than me, you have to respect that. You've got to be a terrorist. Yeah, you have to go all the way. I watched that Unabomber show and I was like, this guy's doing something with his life. What am I doing? He's got confidence in his convictions. Yeah, he knows what his perspective is. Whitney Covey's joke about Luigi.

Starting point is 00:42:33 She was like, he's a man with a plan. He saw it through. He executed it. We love a man who can... Look at me. I'm just here laying in bed like, oh, I don't know. I guess I'll go get dinner.

Starting point is 00:42:42 I'm like, fucking Ted Kaczynski's out there doing shit it's impressive i do think the uh i think that that the internet does potentially make you more depressed but that we are we are just so overexposed like i do think the amount of interaction we have with other people who are not supposed to have interaction with i think you're supposed to have like your friends your family a couple friends your kids maybe a couple colleagues and you read the newspaper and you're like oh this is so far from me like oh like 15 kills in kuwait right that's what that's part of what i was so impressed with with ron.com go subscribe is like i can't i also can't do i can't do a morning show because i can't wake up in the morning i also can't do a show where like live chat because i i think that's part of the internet that like i finally like honed in on it was like this is a

Starting point is 00:43:33 problem for me like you can't have that many cooks in the kitchen like it was like it's just totally you know what you mean like when people are like talking to their chat being like not even just for me personally it's not even chat. It's comments. It's anything. Because I saw an episode of Parks and Rec that so crystallized it for me. So I was like, oh, I'm Leslie Knope. And it's the episode, I don't know if anyone's seen Parks and Rec, but she's running for city council.

Starting point is 00:43:58 And she's having a party at a bowling alley to attract voters. And there's one guy who fucking hates her and she can't greet anyone else because she's just focused on making this guy like her and Adam Scott's like pulling her aside and he's like Leslie we have to get voters like he's not going to vote for you

Starting point is 00:44:17 fucking get work on other people and she's like no I have to get him and that's how I am when I read things I'm like I have to make that person happy and I'm just not good have to make that person happy. And I'm just not good at separating. They can't be in charge. Like every one of the people in the chat can't be in charge. That guy at Leslie Knope's inauguration, whatever, can't be in charge of how she acts. Yeah, but she was.

Starting point is 00:44:36 Because she knew his opinion, he was in charge of how she acted. And I was like, that's how I am. I was ripping it without it. And I was like, am I? It almost felt like I was supposed to. So I would do it for a while without it'm like oh yeah what do you guys think and almost like try to include it because i want there to be that interaction but it was more natural to just not be yeah well that's what i you know it's i think it's good if you have like a producer read

Starting point is 00:44:56 it i think there is good it's almost it's also good like all these things are good as long as you don't let them influence you negatively you know what i mean so if you let the chat go positively though like we always focus on negative like i would like i would positively see like someone wasn't being mean but they weren't being nice either it was just like they were just sharing their opinion and i'd be like oh fuck i gotta get that person to like to like you what i'm doing okay i understand that but but i also think well when it comes to feedback i always think that positive feedback takes like a little more effort to do. And so I feel like when people give you positive, you can't buy into all the hype.

Starting point is 00:45:33 But I think it is generally a little more real than like just someone being like, fuck you and, you know, getting their their hate likes or whatever. So I think, you know, you can take it all with a grain of salt. But, you know, that's a good that's a positive thing. I think that can motivate you. You know what I mean? Yeah. If you believe all your own hype, then then then it gets bad but there is some level i think getting some positive feedback and getting some critical you know critical feedback is there's also the name of the game yeah yeah we also have it yeah that's just part of this contract of having our fake job so we can like

Starting point is 00:45:58 get a little bit of feedback i mean kfc radio was entirely dictated by the fans. Like, I started a Google voice number, and I said, call up and leave your voicemails. And for whatever reason, it was like, you know, 15 different drunk fucking probably college bros in Boston, the Boston area. They all individually left hypotheticals that were like, who would win a fight? Who would, you know, this person versus that person in a pool, whatever. And so I just went with that as, like, the first episode. And that just became, like, the whole show, at least for the first several years, you know? Had they called in and been like, you know, let's talk about fucking baseball stats and shit, I probably would have had a baseball show.

Starting point is 00:46:38 Or golf, or politics. Like, they had only called about the Second Amendment. But it just went that way, you know? Interesting, though, is, like, I saw something that people, someone was saying that not just kind of people with, like, the killer attitude are obviously the ones that are going to be more likely to become, like, influencers and, like, you know, famous people, whatever, because they have that killer attitude that's like,

Starting point is 00:47:02 I don't care what you think, whatever. But then we kind of have, like, a attitude that's like, I don't care what you think, whatever. But then we kind of have like a lack of like, not empathetic people as influencers, but like just people. I think we do. Yeah. I was going to say, you don't have to just put a disclaimer on that. There's such a harder like, you know, it's like you are literally built in to care about what other people think, like seeing the comments and all that. So like they're much more likely to be beat down by the climb up that's why victoria paris is the goat yeah she was like a tiktok a woman on tiktok who just like put up like her strategy was like put up 50

Starting point is 00:47:37 clips a day yeah like put up every single thing and just she just like has that part of her brain is probably like smaller she just does not give a fuck yeah exactly and so but then it's like we kind of need more people like more good you know not i know but it just doesn't sell but no but like it can't like it's like like i feel like you guys are all good like people and examples of just like i don't know like you you all like if you could break through that. Yeah. I think you can get to a certain level. I'm trying to think of it.

Starting point is 00:48:09 I don't think, I think it's harder for sure, but like also, I'm just not following. Just like good people who are not, you know, remember when John Krasinski tried to do like good news during. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:48:20 Yeah. But even that felt like a grift to me. And it sold and like it stopped. Yeah. Like he made a ton of money off of it and like he just flipped it yeah yeah yeah i remember they tried to do without him and it was like well we like you doing it just like see you later i'm gonna take my millions and go but it's not like other people saying like oh we don't like good people in media or whatever it's just like you telling yourself like oh i don't i can't do this because i don't want to like let these people like piss these people off like it's you that stops yourself yeah that's

Starting point is 00:48:47 true other people that stop you i don't even think it's i don't think it's other people i think it's just like i don't want to do that yeah well the reason i don't do any of that stuff isn't like because i'm not failure yeah i don't want to do that I think it would be nice if like you know one of the top podcasts was not inflammatory or fucking divisive but people don't give a fuck about that

Starting point is 00:49:15 I think there's kind of like there's probably like five buckets of content on the internet and I think one of them is that like confirmation bias where it's like people have an opinion and they are seeking out people who say that opinion. And so there's going to be a lot of fucking people who do that.

Starting point is 00:49:30 And it would be better if it was not that way. I don't know. At the same time, though, I say all this and it doesn't work, but one of the things that people, the people who watch One Minute Man, I usually kind of just give both sides of that, just like, here's what's happening. And a lot of people, for better or worse, good for me, for like the world people are like i get my news from you because you just like tell me what's going on so there

Starting point is 00:49:51 is like a little bit of a market for it but but it's never going to be you know if i had picked in that if i pick a side on one of those it would probably be bigger you know yeah no i mean i guess but like that's not it's not who i am it's It's like, I don't... It's really about what you can... I genuinely don't know. Here's what we know. I think if you are, like, political and argumentative, and that is, like, your personality, then, like, rock on, brother. Right.

Starting point is 00:50:15 You believe in that shit. You like the debate. You like the fight. Whatever. Cool. I just think that that's, like... I can't even imagine that. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:50:24 Even if you are that I think the internet will beat you you know guys know who Nick Fuentes is I know the name he's like viciously

Starting point is 00:50:32 like he's the grift to like he's like the final boss of grifting he's like a fucking genius at it

Starting point is 00:50:39 but he also has people at his house like trying to kill him right you know what I mean is that worth like he's making money you're like he's not hot enough yeah he really isn't and honestly if you're

Starting point is 00:50:49 hot enough like p you it's that's how colts get started really it's just like a hot guy has like some wild ass ideas if you're not hot you're not getting it done like yeah you yeah i mean who was who was uh what was the place in Texas right after Ruby Ridge? Waco. Waco. Um, was he hot? Well, Taylor, I don't think he was with that movie.

Starting point is 00:51:10 I mean, when Tim Riggins is playing you, but I remember being like, I don't know about this. Like Efron playing Ted Bundy kind of work. This is still a little bit of a strategy. Maybe, maybe it's wrong theory.

Starting point is 00:51:18 Maybe like a hot, I was talking to Rudy about this and he was like, they need DEI Hitler is what they need. I was like, he didn't know. Why can't she play? Hamilton's doing that shit, right? I was talking to Rudy about this, and he was like, they need DEI Hitler is what they need. I was like, Lupita Nyong'o is Hitler. Why can't she play Hitler? If Hamilton's doing that shit, right? I was just going to say, dude, the Hamilton Holocaust?

Starting point is 00:51:32 If you made Hitler a black woman. Black girl Hitler is interesting. Black girl Hitler is so funny. That's interesting. Please do that shit. There's something to it. A skit called Black Girl Hitler would fucking smash. That's interesting.

Starting point is 00:51:47 At least it'll get the fucking eyeballs or the thought process rolling. It might be the last thing you ever do. Black Girl Hitler, we're all in blackface and we're all men. Just being racist. Mustache. It's our skit.

Starting point is 00:52:01 It's called Black Girl Hitler. Roan wrote the song. Roan wrote it. It's our sketch. It's called Black Girl. Roan wrote the song. Roan wrote it. It is interesting, though. It is. And as an actress, I think Lupita Nyong'o could kill that role.

Starting point is 00:52:15 Just because of her abilities. She's such a good actress. You win an Oscar quick pass for that one. Although I did see fucking Day One or whatever it's called. That was a piece of shit.

Starting point is 00:52:21 Which one? What was that one? Quiet Place Day One. Oh, it sucked? Yeah, it was so bad. I watched it on a plane and it sucked. If it sucks on a plane,

Starting point is 00:52:28 you're like the worst movie of all time. Yeah, that's terrible. I don't even think I finished it and then I got on the flight too and I got off

Starting point is 00:52:33 and I was like, were you watching? And he said, Quiet Place Day One. I said, what'd you think? He goes, I turned it off. I was like, alright. That's 0 for 2 on this flight

Starting point is 00:52:40 for Quiet Place Day One. You both tried it? Yeah, we both turned it off. Lupita Nyong'o goes to Star. There's no like, you know, they gotta be quiet the whole time. It's all like non-verbal acting and shit. It's all kind of like... I liked it the first part while they were talking and then the aliens

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Starting point is 00:53:09 I know Jackie goes to the gym every morning. We just recorded a podcast where I think Kevin's might be flirting with it a little bit. He's eating healthier. He's awesome. We're on a health kick. We're on a group health kick. We're all in the same cycle right now.

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Starting point is 00:56:16 So there's this new show on Hulu called Paradise. Okay. It's fucking awesome. So dope. Right? It's great. Episode one is one of my favorite pilots of all time. I went in completely blind, so if you're listening

Starting point is 00:56:28 to this, go in blind, just go watch it. Watch episode one and then figure it out. But went in blind, watched episode one, I was like, that's fucking television right there. Like the Scorsese meme. It's the cinema. It's like, that's TV. Fucking so good. So I got jacked up. I was flying high and I was talking to a lot

Starting point is 00:56:44 of people about it. And I guess I got a little cocky a little confident yeah the only thing dave and i ever talk about oh no you recommended this day even a little bit is television really so i fucking fired off a text no a proactive one and i was like yo I don't think I've seen the show. I don't know if this is a Dave show. So it was after episode one. I was like, yo, Paradise on Hulu. Going blind. Exactly.

Starting point is 00:57:12 Everything I just told everyone. Okay, I'll let you finish. But you're so dumb. And I sent it. And then I watched episodes two and three. And it's very good. But I'm starting to think it might be more NBC drama than unbelievable television. Okay, I felt the same.

Starting point is 00:57:30 And now, because I know Dave did the case race last night, and I recommended it yesterday. So I know he still hasn't seen it. So do I tell him right now? Do I go, hey, hey, pull back on that? Or do I let him have it? Oh, no, no, no. See, because the last time I recommended it to him, which I fucking, I was, this is the guy. I was also a little on edge on that one.

Starting point is 00:57:50 And I was like, oh, Dave loves this kind of shit. It was The Agency on Paramount+. Yeah. And so I was like, yo, I'm like two episodes in. It's your style of show. He loves like fucking that kind of CIA shit. And I was like, it's your style show. It's a great cast. I'm not sure they're going to find gonna find their way but like if you haven't heard of it check it

Starting point is 00:58:08 out and then i recommend so i can't go too back to back because then i'm on strike three okay lay out all my thoughts on this one first of all you texted me about paradise and you were like this is so right up your alley yeah and you And you are dead ass, 100% accurate. So in what world did you pivot to Dave Bourne? Because it's still kind of. If it's up my alley, there's no way it's up Dave's alley. Well, but it's. Different alleys.

Starting point is 00:58:33 It's still, it's not CIA, but it's Secret Service. It's like. Yeah, but it's pretty sci-fi, bro. It's pretty nerdy. It's episode one. Episode one's all fucking CIA. But the end of episode one is like we are into some. But he does fucking Thrones.

Starting point is 00:58:51 Yeah. Okay. So then here's. Because I don't want to send the text and say, well, I'm pulling back on that wreck. Because then I don't want him to go. Oh, well, I want him to go in. Maybe he loves it. Excited.

Starting point is 00:59:02 I don't want to fuck up his vibe going in. I want him to go in excited. I don't want to fuck up his vibe going in. I want him to go in excited. It depends on if you're worried about Dave Portnoy and his TV viewing experiences or you're worried about your reputation with Dave Portnoy. Great question. Because I'll be honest, after watching episodes two and three, I don't think we're looking at Game of Thrones, The Wire, The Sopranos. So ruining Paradise for someone is worth keeping your reputation with Dave.

Starting point is 00:59:26 I don't think it is. Really? I think. You are a very thoughtful man. If you're willing to fall on this grenade and have Dave Portnoy on the unnamed show be like, Feidelberg fucking sucks at TV recommendations over Paradise, then you are a beautiful soul. I think I just enjoyed i just it's i

Starting point is 00:59:45 i enjoyed episode one so much being so blind to it that i just want other people to experience that and if you don't like two and three fine i was very clear i was like i've only watched episode one it's fucking awesome i i will say i lioness was like my biggest recommendation of the year yeah and every single person that watched it was like you are fucking spot on this is incredible except it born my really yeah oh i love lioness too he didn't like lioness dave is stuck on this show tehran oh tehran's great dave actually want to recommend that to me yeah and he's like about their city in iran yeah yeah yeah it's the same it's like it's like to me i think it's like a knockoff homeland i I actually don't like Teron as much as he does.

Starting point is 01:00:25 I think like Homeland just kind of did it better. Lioness is a little bit different, but similar vibe. Yeah. Overseas terrorism, that kind of shit. But he was like, Lioness. He's like, this is just like a cookie cutter version of Teron. I was like, I don't know, man. Okay.

Starting point is 01:00:38 He's not. Everyone is. He's not wrong. But like the cookie cutter version is fun sometimes. It's like Teron's more spy. He's gonna hate paradise so okay and that was my third part is i just don't think he's gonna like this show i don't want to spoil it but there is a like a sci-fi twist that like nerdy shit like me likes and i don't actually then i see star wars and shit there are times where dave surprises you i don't think this is going to be the one, though. But if you withdraw your recommendation of it,

Starting point is 01:01:05 then he is already going to think that your perspective on it or your taste is bad. You know what I mean? You might as well just sit with your bet, even if it's a losing one, because either he's going to... No hedge, no hedge. Maybe he'll like it, or maybe he won't watch it.

Starting point is 01:01:21 I think those are your only two buckets that you can land in. That's a great point. I think because we talk about TV enough, not a lot by any stretch, but we talk about TV enough when we talk that I think he respects my opinion on it. And I did love episode one. And I still, I liked episode two

Starting point is 01:01:37 and I liked episode three. I still like it, but I'm not as high on it as I once was. So I'm going to, and again, I was very clear. I was like, I've seen episode one. Episode one is awesome. It's as good as was. So I'm going to, and again, I was very clear. I was like, I've seen episode one. Episode one is awesome.

Starting point is 01:01:46 It's as good as a pilot gets, blah, blah, blah. You know what? I think I'm going to leave. I think I'm going to leave. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:01:51 I think he'll respect not wavering more than. Also, we'll see him in a few days. And I feel like. Explaining things in person is easier. I will be better at being like, yeah, I don't know,

Starting point is 01:02:00 man. Episode one was great. Like rather than like sending it in a text, I think I can convey my whoopsies better in person. Do you know what is insane? This whole conversation. The fact that we live our lives this way is insane. Also, you guys are made.

Starting point is 01:02:16 You don't have to worry about the fuck. No, it's actually the opposite. It's actually the opposite. The made men worry about Dave so much more. The new kids will be like, I don't give a fuck what Dave wants. Dave watches TV? Fuck him. I don't give a shit I told this story before I remember I was on a fucking barstool outdoors with that want on Don and Sydney Wells and I think

Starting point is 01:02:35 I was driving and Sydney was like how do you guys communicate with Dave I was like I don't know how do you communicate with Dave she's like I just FaceTime whenever I was like you FaceTime Dave Portnoy that's what I like like, how do you communicate with Dave? She's like, I just FaceTime him whenever I want. I was like, you FaceTime Dave Portman? Yeah. That's what I mean. Like, we would never in a million years. You would have to have a gun to my head. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:02:51 You would have to have a gun to my head to get me to FaceTime Dave without, like, a handful. Don't get me wrong. We're ridiculous. But it's just. Well, I don't even consider him as a person with likes and dislikes. I don't consider him a person. He's like this fucking being. As, like, a guy who has, like, hobbies. Like, oh, he would like this show. Like, this is a food that he would like. I don't consider him a person. He's like this fucking being. As a guy who has hobbies,

Starting point is 01:03:06 he would like this show. This is a food that he would like. I don't think of him as having any tastes and prerogatives on things. Well, I disagree with that because I have a pretty good grasp on his taste for TV. Maybe.

Starting point is 01:03:20 I just didn't even know he watched TV until right now. He's pretty quiet about it. But he kind of just talks to people about it. He doesn't really tweet. It's not like content or whatever. Dane's content is just, I mean, there's pizza, and then it's just like him. He's become his own industry of content.

Starting point is 01:03:34 But you're never going to catch him being like, every now and then he'll do a recap of a big episode of television or something like that. Yeah. He did way back in the day day he would do office recaps on Friday mornings. Really? So he has always been a TV because he mentions it

Starting point is 01:03:49 a lot less now. Yeah. But like The Bachelor stuff I feel like he used to be into or maybe that was just No, American Idol. American Idol.

Starting point is 01:03:56 Yeah. So he did have those but I just think it's been kind of less than that. But the Star Wars shit is the most surprising. That blew my mind. If I had to guess before

Starting point is 01:04:04 knowing that I would be like Dave fucking hates this shit. Outer space, weird aliens, made up words and names and languages. Is he a little boy deep down? Maybe he's just a little boy. He's a man child.

Starting point is 01:04:15 He's a man child. Dave using man child wrong is one of my favorite. Oh, speaking of, Jerry Jones just can't stop saying glory hole. He did it again. Wait, he actually said glory hole? I've seen memes by it. This is the fourth time he's done it.

Starting point is 01:04:29 What? Yes. For the last decade. I love this. This is one of my favorite running things. At this point, he's done it four times in his career that has been on the record, on air.

Starting point is 01:04:39 It's almost like a comment or something. Every 10 years, he's going to say glory hole by accident, and I love it. Way back in the day, I did a demo for SiriusXM. like a like a comment or something every like 10 years he's gonna say glory hole by accident and i love it way back in the day i did a demo for serious xm i was trying to get barstool onto serious before we ever had serious and they're like you need to make us like a demo like an hour-long episode of sports what it would be like talk yeah and i was like but it's you know it's not gonna be sports it's gonna be barstool and that night or like that that week jerry jones

Starting point is 01:05:04 said glory hole by accident and i was like this is perfect he so the first one was many years ago and he was like uh you know it's he goes uh like back in the day he's saying he's saying let me just get it because the first one's really the funniest because he goes like i want me some glory hole well he is the kind of guy trying sorry no no he's just the type of pervert who he has to know what a glory hole is. Just a reminder, I've been here when it was glory hole days. I've been here when it wasn't.

Starting point is 01:05:29 And so having said that, I want me some glory hole days. So the first time that happened, I was like... So he's clearly saying like glory days, right? I want me some glory hole days. And then he did it again

Starting point is 01:05:42 and again and then again like this past week he said that the super bowl is the absolute glory hole he said uh you know it made me get back to work because i want to work to the glory hole now somebody i didn't i didn't look into this but right before we started recording i posted a one minute man on it and somebody left a comment saying he's a texas oil man and glory hole is a term for when you find a thing of oil. Maybe true, maybe not.

Starting point is 01:06:07 That's probably true. But you also have to understand that a glory hole means a hole in a bathroom stall that you get your dick sucked through. So you can't run around saying glory hole without at least throwing out the caveat. Oh, and by the way,

Starting point is 01:06:19 I mean the oil glory hole, not the dick sucking glory hole. I mean as originally intended. Like, yay. So those are the ones where PR agents are like are like Hey we need a little bit more clips Social clips going around You have to say glory hole Maybe there's something I don't know

Starting point is 01:06:36 But an old man running around going I want some glory hole We gotta get back to the glory hole days Or maybe he just means a hole where you get your dick sucked in Emmitt Smith used to be in Stall 3 Or maybe he just means a hole where you get your dick sucked in. I get it. Emmett Smith used to be in stall three. That would be the best.

Starting point is 01:06:54 No, I know exactly what you're talking about. I think glory holes are awesome. They're comparable to a Super Bowl. Getting your dick sucked through a bathroom stall anonymously is like the Super Bowl. It's awesome. Have you ever done it? What were the old videos of him? He was getting his dick sucked or he was pushing girls' heads down or something like that? He was partying.

Starting point is 01:07:11 He's had plenty of... I don't know if it was like literally getting his dick sucked, but he was definitely... He's got some wild pictures where he's got the pictures of, yes, he's got pictures with hookers. He's got pictures with a Super Bowl trophy. He's got pictures standing on the front steps not letting black students into his school. What? You've never seen that picture of Jerry Jones? Oh, that's... Oh, on the front steps, not letting black students into his school. What? You've never seen that picture of Jerry Jones?

Starting point is 01:07:26 Oh, yeah. As a young boy. As a young boy. He was on the steps blocking the Alabama three. It's the Huntsville? Birmingham. Birmingham three? Maybe something like that.

Starting point is 01:07:38 Like the first three young black girls to go to school, integrated school. Another in Hamilton. Jerry Jones on the front steps. Like, absolutely the fuck not yeah it must be so nice for the people who are like outside of jeffrey epstein's orbit who were also pedophiles but just like sourced for themselves like they they never picked up that call they're just like oh i got i can get my own i got a guy dude i like my guy stuff there's florida there's texas there's stuff better there's Florida there's Texas there's California you know

Starting point is 01:08:05 he's over there he's his own broker for children or he is the broker he was on that show Landman yeah and people went nuts for it

Starting point is 01:08:14 because it actually was a pretty decent scene because you could tell he was not acting he was just talking about like he was talking about trying to make

Starting point is 01:08:21 if I remember correctly it's trying to make your kids like take over the family business. And he was like, you do it because you think this is going to be great, that, like, you're going to, like, spend all this time with your kids. And then you realize that, like, you're just forcing your life upon your children. And I was like, I think this is what the fuck happened to Jerry Jones. I think he's just talking to Billy Bob Thornton and the cameras have to be rolling. Which is the one with the really weird scene.

Starting point is 01:08:44 With the daughter? Yeah. That's a show that I can't, I mean the one with the really weird scene. With the daughter? Yeah. That's a show that I can't, I mean, there are people who think that that is like amazing cinema and I'm like his 17 year old daughter is running around in like lingerie talking about fucking her boyfriend. Every scene. It's crazy.

Starting point is 01:09:00 And he also chops off his own pinky. On Landman? Yes. Really? Yeah. The show? No, I mean, if I went into it being like, this is like a glory hole oil man, silly Billy Bob Thornton over the top sort of thing, maybe. But people were like, this is amazing. And like in the first couple scenes, his daughter is telling him, we have a rule with my boyfriend. Like, as long as he doesn't come in me he can come anywhere he wants and it's like i don't think any daughter would say that to anybody let alone like

Starting point is 01:09:29 a southern bell texas girl talking to her father and then the next scene she's running around her underwear being like my boyfriend won't fuck me like what do i do and he's like oh my daughter like this is so crazy i'm like this would never fucking happen and then there's this point where there's an oil rig explosion and he goes to the hospital and his hands all fucked up and the doctor's like we need to operate on that and he's like he's like take the pinky off and the doctor's like we need to like operate on it he goes take it off or i'm taking it off and the doctor's like we need to prep you and he just grabs a knife and he chops his pinky off in front of the doctor and i was like all right this is

Starting point is 01:10:00 just well that's what it's fine but people what's his name isn't that what fucking r ronnie lott yeah yeah i mean i guess there's some truth to these things but it was particularly i don't know if ronnie lott cut it off himself but he was like just fucking take it off yeah yeah the football player rather than like miss the game but it's that kind of show like i think it's silly and i couldn't put up with it but i just can't believe the people who are like this is amazing why couldn't r Lachos play football with a broken hand? It seems like harder to play with like to chop your finger off I think it was nerves related

Starting point is 01:10:31 like you won't feel the pain or whatever he wasn't going to be able to really use it anyway they could reattach it but like so why not just tape it to another finger it's pretty drastic to chop it off it's so dramatic I've heard that from I don't know I don't have friends that it's happened to but I've heard that from, I don't know, it's not that I have friends that it's happened to,

Starting point is 01:10:45 but I've just heard that sometimes if a finger loses its nerve endings and you can't have control over it anymore, you just always whack it on stuff and it's easier to just have it taken off. Huh. I just would feel like a freak. I would rather have a dead pinky. Yeah, just give me a dead finger. No one's asking about it.

Starting point is 01:11:00 But what about getting it in your pocket? You have no control over your pinky. And it's just like jamming into things. You're always trying to wedge your forefingers in there. I'll tape it. Like I said, figure it out. Dude, I'd press on nails for a yak thing for a week or something like that. Something like that?

Starting point is 01:11:14 Something fucking, I don't know. But I didn't realize how hard it is to put your hands in your pocket with the nails. Oh, I can't imagine. With the press on. They were long? They were over your finger? They were decently sized sized a couple inches but uh anytime they would slide in like they get caught and they like pull your nails it was i didn't realize how

Starting point is 01:11:33 painful it is i don't really understand how other girls like i don't do i rip a nail off every single time every single time i have like those are real yeah yeah it's tough or even i mean picking up credit cards also was like yeah any of that shit typing is so fun yeah just whipping my ass

Starting point is 01:11:49 but the click is nice how long did you have it on for? I think a week or five days when Shay puts them on she just sits there clicks yeah

Starting point is 01:11:56 I feel so sassy I feel like I text like flirty or whatever when did that become a prerequisite for TikTok videos when someone will show their tone? That ASMR shit.

Starting point is 01:12:09 You know what I mean? Everybody does it. Yep. It's weird. And by everybody, I mean Brianna Chicken Fry and Jordan Woodruff. I feel like everybody does it. A lot of people are doing it. People love those sounds and shit.

Starting point is 01:12:19 You think that Lincoln's wife, Mary Todd Lincoln, do you think she would have been depressed if she had TikTok? More depressed or less depressed? Because we already know she was depressed. I think she would be finding out her husband's gay a lot quicker. A lot of TikToks being like, so Abe is fucking a homo, huh? I saw the play, Oh Mary, which is very funny. Magazines and plays over there.

Starting point is 01:12:44 But it's about how crazy. It's a comedy, so it's very funny. But she's insane. He is very funny. Magazines and plays over here. But it's about how great... It's a comedy, so it's very funny, but she's insane, he's very gay. He's gay in the play? Bro, I don't think he's gay. I don't think he's gay. I read books about him. They didn't say shit about him being gay. Okay, so I

Starting point is 01:12:59 did a little research after the play. He used to sleep with other guys, right? It is... I believe the sentence was... The statement was, outside of his marriage to Mary Todd, which is a very strong argument, there is absolutely no evidence to support that

Starting point is 01:13:14 he's a heterosexual. And it was... But also, back in the day, once I met my wife, I wasn't fucking... I don't know. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 01:13:23 What's the evidence to support he's a homosexual there's a lot talk to me so he lived with men which wasn't a thing you did back then

Starting point is 01:13:34 you didn't have roommates like you do now he lived with men on I think three separate occasions but also slavery was a thing he was anti-conventional

Starting point is 01:13:40 he was a little different back then anti-conventional but it was like at least but I think when you live with a man, you share a bed. And so it was – he definitely shared a bed with one guy for like six years.

Starting point is 01:13:50 Head to foot or – Expo, girls' pro. But the most damning thing I saw was that – I believe it was his stepmother, not his mother. Maybe it was his mother if he didn't have a stepmother. But I feel like I remember reading stepmother. When he died, in like her statement, she she was like never was a big fan of women and so he was either misogynistic or gay whatever she meant by that please god let him be ryan long has a funny skit you ever see that no he did a skit of like being lincoln like finding

Starting point is 01:14:21 out that everyone's talking about him being gay now and he he's like, dude, I'm not. I'm not. I wasn't. Why did I say that? I wasn't gay, dude. It's very funny. Yeah, it's crazy because the autists came for everybody after autism blew up. They were like, Einstein, Newton. It's like, bro, you can't reference whether Newton was autistic. You have no idea. It's hundreds of fucking years ago.

Starting point is 01:14:40 He was just smart. And now the gays are trying to fucking claim up people. You're trying to go back to history. No, actually, he's gay. Pee Wee Herman came out as posthumously gay. First person to ever do that. I didn't know. I didn't know Pee Wee Herman's dead.

Starting point is 01:14:52 Oh, yeah, yeah. What was he, jerking off to pornos in movie theaters? I thought he was a pervert. I didn't know he was gay. Straight? Yeah. Well, that's a pretty good cover. But coming out as gay after you're dead is pretty fucking awesome.

Starting point is 01:15:01 If you're gay in the 90s, the move. And maybe it was early 2000s when that happened. If there's a rumor you're gay, just 90s, the move. Maybe it was early 2000s when it happened. But if there's a rumor you're gay, just go in public and jerk off. Then why was I watching straight anal porn? The cum is right there, dude. You saw the cum. I was moved to climax because of it. Dude, jerking off in a movie theater is crazy, period.

Starting point is 01:15:23 Obviously. And then if you are famous, it's insane. It must be the thrill of it or something. It's got to be because it's like, dude, how horny can you be that you need to do this in public? I almost jerked off in a – Movie theater? Not a movie theater, but like at a porn store. I almost jerked off once. What age are we talking about i was probably 19 i was driving home from i'd gone to see my friends at rollins college which is like outside orlando

Starting point is 01:15:53 and i was driving back to tallahassee i was alone i was hungover i've done drugs the night before it's always you know you wake up you wake up a little in the morning after a drug night, and you're like, boy, it's horny. So I was driving. It's like a four-hour drive. And that stretch of highway in Florida, for some reason, has a lot of provocative billboards. For sure, there is a topless. It's not Waffle House, but it's a topless diner. And they're always advertising for it. Hey, that's actually pretty cool.

Starting point is 01:16:24 Yeah. And there's always advertising for it. It's like topless it's a topless diner. And they're always advertising for it. Hey, that's actually pretty cool. Yeah. And there's always advertising for it, just like topless diner, topless diner. And they have like, it's not real people, but like cartoons, like big titties and stuff like that. On the billboard? On the billboard. And I was like, damn, that's a fucking nice titty. And then as I kept driving, it was like next exit.

Starting point is 01:16:40 And like this went on for a long time, like two hours of me being like, oh, nice titties. You keep seeing billboards or it was just the one. No, no. Continue. Like they advertise a lot. Right. They are.

Starting point is 01:16:51 They're not shy with advertising. And I finally. I can see where the story's going. I'm driving. And then they're like, the biggest porn store in the world. And I'm like, I might fucking beat off. And so I pulled over. Like it said on the ad.

Starting point is 01:17:04 I was going to have like, we have jerk off boost. And I was like, that's exactly what I need. Oh, and then. I'll I pulled over. Like it said on the iRazor and I had like, we have jerk off booths. And I was like, that's exactly what I need. Oh. And then. I'll be honest, that makes it a little better. Yeah. I thought you were just like in the middle of the aisles. No, no, no, no, no, no.

Starting point is 01:17:12 Like I was going to go into one of those booths. I thought you were like, I was shopping and like had the urge. All right. But then. Bro, you were driving around in a jerk off booth. Yeah. You were sitting in a car. It was just deeply, deeply perverted.

Starting point is 01:17:24 But better than what I was envisioning. And then I got in the store and I was like, I can't do this. So I just bought a Belladonna DVD, drove home at 140 miles an hour. Watched her put a baseball bat in her ass and finish the job then. It's because you make eye contact with the janitor. Yeah, it's crazy, dude. I can't put you through this, man. You can't be in a glory hole like that.

Starting point is 01:17:44 That's crazy, dude. I can't put you through this, man. You can't be in a glory hole like that. That's fucking crazy. I feel like having gone to USC, like, you know how, like, in TV shows now, like, until you see the dead body, you don't, like, you can't really trust it. Yes. I feel like at USC, like, everyone's kind of a little gay. And until I see them fucking a guy,

Starting point is 01:18:00 I don't believe that they're gay. So now I kind of have this, like, whole thing, like, Abraham Lincoln, I don't, what? You're saying everybody's a little bit gay. I almost feel like until I see you fuck a girl that they're gay. So now I kind of have this whole thing. Well, wait, should it be the other way? Abraham Lincoln, I don't... What? You're saying everybody's a little bit gay. I almost feel like until I see you fuck a girl, you're gay. Until I see you fuck one or the other. But I don't believe that you're actually gay.

Starting point is 01:18:14 You have a gay personality. Yes. Until I actually see you fucking a guy, I don't believe that you're gay. It's like a Doubted Thomas. Like how he wanted to put the fingers in the wounds. Like you want to see the guy put the penis in the butthole. But also, how many people are you going to watch fuck a girl? How many people are you watching fuck?

Starting point is 01:18:29 Well, no, because it's like, okay, not actually, but like until I hear that you have fucked a guy. Because like, you know, everyone can be like. Too much gay stolen valor. Yeah, exactly. 100% doing anal, bro. If you're about it, fucking be about it. Those guys earn it.

Starting point is 01:18:44 Those guys earn that shit. Those guys earn it. Okay? Let's talk about finger in the ass. Speaking of titties, have you heard Sexy Red's Masterpiece? No. Have you heard this?

Starting point is 01:18:57 No, what's she talking about? Titties? You guys have not heard Bruno Mars and Sexy Red? I have not actually heard it. Bro, this song is unbelievable. I know you can't put it in the show, but you've got to listen to the fucking lyrics of this.

Starting point is 01:19:09 This is... Bruno Mars is getting out of debt. If he's in gambling debt, he's getting out of it. I saw him. He tweeted, like, he's streaming. I'll get out of debt. He's the first artist ever to pass 150 million monthly listeners on Spotify. The song is called Fat, Juicy, and Wet.

Starting point is 01:19:27 It is Bruno Mars and Sexy Red. She goes, titties on your mouth, titties on your chin, titties on titties with my big titty friend. Her rubbing her tits on another girl. I mean, it's just, it's a masterpiece. I wonder if they have writers. Literally, this could not have taken, like, more than an hour. And who is it? Is it like a Jewish guy in the studio yeah yeah because like sexy red i would think that she is this person but like

Starting point is 01:19:53 at this point she probably has writers and like a whole it's like here you go just yeah i saw a discourse about bruno she's just she's a uh coochie she says a coochie autograph. The links are in blue. What were you saying? Or I just saw people talking about Bruno Mars, and I didn't realize they were talking about this song. Well, he's got that one, and then he had that one, APT, which was to start the year.

Starting point is 01:20:16 He has three number one hits in a row. He's got that one with Gaga. I haven't heard. Very different vibes. I haven't heard that song. I think it's the number one streamed song of 2024. Yeah, it was a big it was he has like three number ones what was that die with a smile yeah yeah yeah is it have you heard it yeah it's good yeah it's real good i saw that i remember hearing about it and then just never hearing it and i saw yesterday like it's

Starting point is 01:20:39 by far number one stream i thought leave the door open was nice which one's that you gotta leave he's got like his like wedding he has that's what they were talking about the discourse he has like five wedding songs yeah he's like he's like a genius when it comes to like everybody will play these songs for all of time the i really actually i i rarely listen to albums i have like three albums i listen to um and this one's not in that three mix, but it's kind of on like four or five. Silk Sonic is amazing. Absolutely outrageous. I think that was him trying to do a little more like,

Starting point is 01:21:13 I don't just make like these bops, though. I'm trying to make like real music. But like those, I think it's only like eight songs or something like that. That album was, I mean, no skips. Fucking awesome. You think, like that's like Ed Sheeran almost making. I meant to talk to you about this. What? I love Ed Sheeran. So what are you talk to you about this what what is i love ed sheeran so what is what is what are you gonna do

Starting point is 01:21:28 oh i gotta play the song yeah i gotta play the song you say you're gonna put my notice right i'm a big ed sheeran guy wait what's going on with that share and explain i i have like an ed sheeran song like almost styled in the like kind of an ed sheeran styled song and it's gonna basically like he's gonna have to rethink everything like it's fucking it's so good are you in contact like no no like i'm not in contact with oh okay but it's it's uh recorded it's in the mastering stage and it's just like he's gonna have to it's he's gonna have to step his game up are you singing oh yeah yeah i mean like like i feel like you found your singing voice after like pop punk i don't know yeah i mean i've always i was in the i was in the church choir at six years old or you know yeah sixth grade um but yeah so

Starting point is 01:22:16 i'll play it for you after this fuck yeah and speedrunner i heard you mentioned that on the show that that's is that his genre or no just in general like speedrunner song like just try to make a song as fast as possible in a specific genre i feel like bruno mars exactly red did that yeah exactly i feel like they like spun a wheel and was like pussy okay let's go yeah that's i need to be doing shit like that yeah yo i mean this this is the the quintessential tiktok song like i don't need the verse of sexy red screaming about her tits but uh the little a little bass line with a little hook of bruna mars you know like crooning like that is like you listen to

Starting point is 01:22:50 that for 15 seconds on tiktok yeah and the rest of the song fucking sucks same thing with his other the other hit he had uh i was like do you do you want me like i want you in that song like oh that's that's really all it is these days too you need a good 15 seconds of a song because i'll hear a song On my Discover Weekly And I won't have heard Any of the rest of the song But then I'll hear like

Starting point is 01:23:09 Get it Get it how I live it Yeah Toe down And it's like I didn't even know This was part of a real song Yeah

Starting point is 01:23:14 I thought it was just like A sound for your video Yeah Same thing with Jello With the Bet in the corner Like whoa It's like that's

Starting point is 01:23:20 That's the only part of the song Anybody likes It's all you need It really is incredible But it's like That's To bring this all back It's like That's why music is starting to suck because people see that and they're like that's what succeeds. I'm going to do that.

Starting point is 01:23:31 And it's like there used to be people being like, well, I'm going to make a song that's better than that and different than that and that will succeed over here. But it's like, oh, that's what works. So we're all just – everyone's just like becoming the same thing. Yeah, yeah. All rap sounds the like shorter songs, coming the same thing. Yeah. Yeah. All rap sounds the same. All influencers are the same. All there was talking the same. Cause there's no like different pockets.

Starting point is 01:23:51 Cause one overlord algorithm. I was, I was watching a clip. Um, and you know how on, uh, you could see people who you follow on Instagram now, what clips they liked or something like that. So it was like a clip that John Mayer had liked. And it was this songwriter talking about how, uh you wrote a song right and did it the exact right way you used to have like an 80 success rate that like if the label liked it if you liked it if

Starting point is 01:24:15 the artist liked it you knew it would be a hit it might take a while but he said now i have to work like put out three times as many songs for like 10 of the success because a hundred thousand songs come out every single day literally a hundred thousand songs come out every day and and like it's completely dictated by like who can push the song and what's popping on like an algorithm as opposed to like oh this is a hit that was manufactured to be a hit see i used to think it was the opposite like there's less barriers of entry you don't need a label you don't need the radio station now you put a song out and if people like it like it goes to the top like it's almost like a meritocracy but now it's become like it's like now if like i show speed

Starting point is 01:24:53 puts out a song or like if charlie d'amelio puts out a song like that's gonna pop off because they have a machine put behind them but it's not the same machine as like the record labels used to be where they could just get it onto the radio or get it onto some like placements there needs to be like uh two different charts or something you know what i mean it's like you got a number one hit like on the internet right songwriters and hit makers have like the real number one hit i mean they have those charts it's just it's their personal bank account yeah like congratulations you got a hit song on the internet. Here's 10 bucks. Here's your money. You have actual fans with the machine.

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Starting point is 01:26:31 Poison grape? You got 100 grapes. You get $10,000 per grape eaten, but one of them is poisoned and you die. How many grapes are you eating? 100. Guaranteeing death. No, damn it. No, no come on where is it the no the uh no um i'd be close to 100 well i mean i think you might you might you might i don't touch the

Starting point is 01:27:00 grapes i just put a gun in my mouth take it at my chance i mean it's what you sign up for ahead of time you know what i mean obviously because if you eat a poison one on your second one you're dead but it's like if you got to 98 and you how much money you get 10 000 a grape uh it's not much like i don't know rich boy yeah well it's not what we're talking about the other option is dying. I'm not saying $10,000 is nothing. I'm saying the next 60 years of my life, I'll probably make more than $10,000. If you said you have a 10% chance of something happening, that's fine. That's a pretty high chance.

Starting point is 01:27:44 I don't know. As long as it's 90% that it's not, you might walk away with 100 grand. I'm eating 10 grapes. I think a lot of people have landed on 10. I don't think I'd eat any. Imagine if it was just 10% is a pretty high fucking chance. No, it's 1%.

Starting point is 01:27:58 Even 1%, that's not an infinitesimal chance. 1% is possible. But if you eat 10, it's not an infinitesimal chance. 1% is possible. I've said this. But if you eat 10, it's 10%. Yeah, yeah, right. But all the statistics has never made sense to me because I understand that there's like, you have a 1% chance.

Starting point is 01:28:16 It's also 50-50. It's 50-50. Everything is 50-50. The first one you pick might be a fucking, yeah. It's all 50. Oh my God, it bothers me so much. Yeah, no, that's a great point. I'm definitely eating zero

Starting point is 01:28:25 it's kind of like 10,000 in the perspective of what we're talking about 10,000 dollars is literally no money yeah yeah

Starting point is 01:28:31 that needs to be maybe 100,000 yeah 100,000 a grape yeah 10 grapes so I don't even know if I'd eat that

Starting point is 01:28:39 100 grand a million dollars a grape we used to do hypotheticals that's the hypothetical how. We used to do hypotheticals. That's the hypothetical. Bro, we used to do hypotheticals where like 10% of the seats in a stadium would disappear or you got a billion dollars.

Starting point is 01:28:53 Yeah, now we're doing a $10,000 bet. Okay, so let's do that. You got a million dollars is great. I got a couple great games. Everybody's got their number. Everybody's got their fucking number, man. That would suck so much dick though there was a hundred on the table you're on the third one and you're dead boy do i know how to mush it

Starting point is 01:29:11 jesus christ the um i know that was one thing before we go i also going back to your uh you had asked about a depression thing because one of the notes i had because i was watching paradise on hulu yeah and i still have ads on my hulu and i got a lot of better helps bro you better eat some grapes bro i like commercial breaks i like because i hone i lock in on like when i'm watching something i fucking lock in and then at a break i look at my phone a little bit and i like i don't like watching tv or movies like on my phone i don. I just get a much different level of enjoyment out of them. But I do like to check my phone occasionally. So I got the commercials on.

Starting point is 01:29:50 But they have a lot of basically podcast ad reads just as commercials on Hulu. And there's a lot of mental health stuff like that. And I was wondering, do you think therapists are kind of like, enough of the advertising. I don't need fucking. Everybody. I used to have people coming in and being like, my wife's got cancer, my kid's gay,

Starting point is 01:30:12 like all kinds of stuff. And now it's just like, I don't know. I saw a bunch of commercials, and I think I'm depressed. I know what you mean, but I think they are... Those are the best. You think so? I think I'd be sitting there like, dude, shut the fuck up.

Starting point is 01:30:26 This is a regular problem. Go back outside. I saw a chick put up a video. It was like, here's how much I make as an online therapist. And she was just dancing. And it was like December, 75 grand. January, 80 grand. It just kept going up to the point she's making like 150 grand.

Starting point is 01:30:39 Are you sure? Is that OnlyFans that you're talking about? That's what it felt like. Really? Her caption was like, this is the power of marketing. And I was like, you are celebrating your grift. She even said it. This is me as an online therapist.

Starting point is 01:30:54 I was like, you're almost degrading your own. At least that's the way I received it. You know what I mean? Yeah. People have a degree in. What do therapists have degrees in usually? Psychology? Psychology.

Starting point is 01:31:05 Is it psychology? My sister's a therapist. Her degree, she has her master's in... Sociology, psychology. Master's at least sounds legit, but I feel like a lot of people who are therapists don't even need the background in any of it. Psychology, mental health.

Starting point is 01:31:21 They're podcast hosts, bro. They're podcast hosts. As things have grown, i think that is an issue yeah that a lot of people yeah like real therapists are like the real deal you know yeah come up with like breakthroughs and like human psychology but you know some of these people that are just like like anything right like as the market continues to grow the product gets diluted and yeah i i would almost like i think like 90 of therapy is is spilling your guts and just getting it off your chest

Starting point is 01:31:46 I would propose it as like I'm a great guy to vent to I'm not a doctor I'll vent with you though you can say it to me I'm a judge this chick sucks $100 an hour

Starting point is 01:31:59 that's all it is and last thing double check you write notes for shows? yeah good for you And last thing on Double check It is the last thing You write notes for shows? Yeah Good for you Right, okay

Starting point is 01:32:13 So in this show we're talking about If you haven't watched it and you want to watch Don't listen to this Spoiler, spoiler, spoiler There's an end of world event right yeah and so but there is still like is it paradise yeah yeah there is still a community and there's still like people go to school everything's the normal the world's normal except for the fact that the world ended what do they teach in school like are they teaching about countries and shit like like literally this doesn't matter it's all

Starting point is 01:32:46 gone yeah yeah it doesn't matter and also i would be like i think this is a great chance to like restart yeah like you know when we're always like they should have taught a course on like mortgages and taxes and shit's like well do that shit now because you're never gonna see or hear you know none of this really applies because like not even it's not because like old shit doesn't matter anymore but it still applies in a general sense it does not apply things that happened in the past

Starting point is 01:33:11 the world we currently live in they do affect the way the world works in that world it doesn't the world's gone about ancient history shit that just is not applicable anymore but still there's some value in it there's still some some stuff where like this is interesting yeah but like you don't really you don't need to know about again like most people these days most people in most days

Starting point is 01:33:32 like you don't know fucking geography and like you don't really know what other countries warred outside of the big ones that definitely doesn't matter anymore geography but like the situation those those fucking you know if you're like, oh, you know, the Irish and the English fucking hate each other because of, but you don't have to do any of that. There's no Irish and English. You know what you should do

Starting point is 01:33:51 is just make Hitler a black woman. So this black chick was going wild in Germany in the 40s. We can't let another one get in power. But I think that it's really

Starting point is 01:34:02 just goes over to the STEM tab on TikTok. That's the important shit. Like the science, technology, engineering, math. That's the stuff you need to know, teach to other people so they can repopulate and build new things. If you want to engineer something new, if you want to build back better. It doesn't matter about geography.

Starting point is 01:34:20 Fucking punctuation definitely doesn't matter. Fucking history barely matters. You know what you need? English. The arts. I've become a big The Arts guy. fucking punctuation definitely doesn't matter fucking history barely like matters like English the arts I've become a big the arts guy I think the arts

Starting point is 01:34:29 make the world go around obviously engineering but you could make the argument it's the like total opposite you know what I mean

Starting point is 01:34:37 yeah no 100% the world makes the arts go around but like the only reason most people get up every day like what

Starting point is 01:34:44 at the end of the day you're're like, what made me happy today? It's usually something like a TV show you watch, a movie you watch, just a song you heard. But if everybody's trying to rebuild the town and you're like, I'm about to go paint, they're going to fucking hate you. No, trust me. You're going to fucking need this. I don't know.

Starting point is 01:35:01 I think people would be like, he's all we got. Let's go look at his paintings. I'm not funny.'s all we got. Let's go look at his paintings. I'm not funny. I'm not talented. Let's go look at this fucking guy. That guy becomes king, man. You got a couple jokes in the apocalypse world? If you remember some jokes in the danger world.

Starting point is 01:35:18 So you're telling me all the comedians are dead? Yeah. I'm the funniest guy in the world. I'm just Steel Subterra. Yeah. That'd be great. Doing all the people's bits and shit nobody can find it anymore it's all also though is like speaking of bits like one of my favorite nate bargazzi bits is it kind of applies to this when he's like if i got to go back in time i'd be in a worse position than i am now is what bargazzi says hey he's like i you have the knowledge but not the ability. He's like, I'd see

Starting point is 01:35:45 some guy on a phone, but you know what, they're going to put those in your pocket. He's like, how do they do that? I'm like, oof. Wish I didn't say anything. They're gonna though. Fucking crazy. If the world ended, they'd be like, so what can you do? I'm like, I... I...

Starting point is 01:36:03 There's gotta be something that you could do rank snacks for you i'll be in town square and i'll you know what you could do you know you could do uh kinda like you could you could you could put them on the penicillin on the what onto penicillin shit like that wow right it was it was like it was mold that got left out yeah you know i mean i know that much but it kind of is it really was like no i didn't know but then he did like yes but i mean you could go find some scientists and be like yo like look into that mold shit to cure but the scientists are gonna know about that already maybe not no i'm sorry you know what i'm saying i only mentioned that i see what you're saying i only mentioned, and I was speaking about it as like in the paradise world.

Starting point is 01:36:48 Yes, back in time. Yes, yes, yes. The knowledge is already there. But with penicillin, though, they found it on one cantaloupe. It was mold that they used on one cantaloupe and turned it into this massive drug company breakthrough, this medical breakthrough. And they haven't been able to find that mold on any other cantaloupe. Really? It just occurred one time. Bullshit?

Starting point is 01:37:10 That makes my anthem. Give me the tinfoil. Where's the cantaloupes? Bring him a bushel of cantaloupes. I taste the mold. My question with conspiracies is always, but why? In this case, it would be a good thing.

Starting point is 01:37:25 It's like penicillin helps save people. But like the big one now, I'm always, oddly enough, I'm always very defensive of the Chiefs dynasty. I'm rooting for you, by the way. Thank you, thank you. But I am defensive of it because of how, like, just I remember how it was with the Pats. Like I was there.

Starting point is 01:37:43 I was in the trenches. I remember everyone saying it didn't count. It wasn't real. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like, I don't get the Patrick Mahomes. Like, I don't get why they would do it. Do what? Like, why there would be this massive conspiracy that the Chiefs have to win.

Starting point is 01:37:58 Oh, yeah. Because also you need 30 or 29 owners who are great. Sign off on it. Yeah. Like, it doesn't make any sense. Taylor Swift. Yes, of course, Taylor Swift. Yes, of course.

Starting point is 01:38:06 Taylor Swift. Idiot. It's rigged for the Chiefs. Why would it be rigged for the Chiefs? I'm so like... Why would they rig it for a team in Kansas City? Kansas City, yeah.

Starting point is 01:38:16 It makes no sense. There's most conspiracy theories, I think. If you ask three questions, it's like, yeah, you're right. That doesn't make sense. I'm so like the opposite of the world on Mahomes.

Starting point is 01:38:24 I love Mahomes, man. I like... I don't love him. He's not my guy, but I'm like, I, you're right. That's what it says. I'm so, like, the opposite of the world on Mahomes. I love Mahomes, man. I like – I don't love him. He's not my guy, but I'm like, I think he's great. There's not much to hate. I think he's a good dude. Like, I like Brittany Mahomes now. Dude, did you see Greer's tweet the other night? No.

Starting point is 01:38:36 So fucking funny. Greer was before the game, and I'm going to pull it up. Brittany Mahomes was annoying as fuck, no doubt. But, like, over the course of time, it's a pretty down-ass wife who just raises kids and reps him and the family well. She also hit the jackpot. Yeah, yeah. She's annoying.

Starting point is 01:38:52 She hasn't known heartbreak. You know what I mean? She got with him when she was 15. She was about a $500 million guy when he was 15. Yeah, yeah. Now it's like he was a winning lottery team. I think there are way worse wags and shit out there. 1.5 million views on this tweet.

Starting point is 01:39:07 Patrick Mahomes, whose brother is a sexual assaulter, father is a serial drunk driver, and wife is mildly off-putting. Gets the ball back with Chiefs up 7-3. Yeah, I'm not rooting for you, bro. I can't do it. I can't do it because I need anything

Starting point is 01:39:24 that can piss off Patriots fans, discredit Brady in a little bit. That doesn't piss me off either. Not you, but other people. Even mentioning, there are Patriots fans who will not acknowledge that he is chasing him down, that he's really in the conversation. He's on his ass. He's on his ass.

Starting point is 01:39:40 Brady beat him before. If he gets to four before he's 30. 30. And you have a three-peat, something he never did. That's also a nice little check. It's a nice little thing. I think I'm more okay with it because you're never going to get me. You can think whatever the fuck you want.

Starting point is 01:39:52 I don't care who you think the best quarterback is. I think it's Tom Brady. Right, right, right. But, you know, you're the exception to the rule. I don't know what's more impressive or what's more crazy. The fact that Patrick Mahomes, that Tom Brady did what he did, and what he accomplished should be something like, we don't see that for another hundred years.

Starting point is 01:40:11 And somebody else basically overlaps with him. What's more crazy? That or the fact that what Patrick Mahomes has done is like halfway there. I don't know which is crazier. It gets overlooked. He's not even halfway there yet. People trying to bring it into the conversation. I'm like, you're just rushing it. He's great. He's that. I don't know. I think it's overlooked. He's not even halfway there yet. People trying to bring it into the conversation. I'm like, you're just rushing it. He's

Starting point is 01:40:27 great. He's awesome. You're rushing this conversation. He's not halfway there. He did all this before 30. It's like he has to do that again from 30 to 40. And that would just tie. He might not. Kelsey will be gone and Reed will probably go. It's going to be hard. I'm not rooting for him, but if it happens,

Starting point is 01:40:43 it happens. Great. What I think would be more interesting, and I don't even know if it's better or worse, but it's different that if he just does like six and seven years. Brady had those weird gaps, you know what I mean? Yeah. You could make that an argument for or against. He had the longevity. He was able to return. Well, he started cheating and using whatever.

Starting point is 01:41:01 But it's like what's better is, you know, it's like, yeah, I crammed it all in or I was able to do it three different dynasties over the course of 20 years. Yeah. But if Patrick Mahomes plays like 20 seasons like Brady does,

Starting point is 01:41:12 I mean, that's good. It's also like, it's weird that we're so surprised and I am as well. Like, like, wow,

Starting point is 01:41:19 it's happening so fast. Like, when did Montana retire? Like mid nineties? When did he retire? Yeah. Oh yeah. he was like five years before brady yeah but but three right montana no four four okay four is where you start

Starting point is 01:41:33 to really hit that territory but i'm trying to see when i guess there's always greatness and then and then bradshaw and the oh wait so no he played yeah he played till 94 so he's six years before brady basically every generation has a guy like this. But I don't know. When you go from four to like seven and eight – nine appearances, something like that? Ten appearances. That's the other thing too, is the appearances.

Starting point is 01:41:55 In football, making a Super Bowl is almost a national belt. Lost to Giants twice, Eagles. Yeah, so ten appearances. Ten appearances. He made it every other year. And I'm sure Montana went to four and won four. That was always the argument. He never lost anything.

Starting point is 01:42:09 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But he also only went to four. Tom Brady went to two and a half more times Super Bowls. And then they did it with Steve Young right after. That's like if the Patriots had done it with Brian Hoyer or Mac Jones right after. They drafted Mac Jones and then he made a Super Bowl. Well, you know what they kind of did? They tried to do this early in Brady's era or in Brady's reign.

Starting point is 01:42:29 They were trying to like Matt Castle had a good team. Matt Castle played well. Matt Castle won like 11-5. Brady went undefeated. It's a six-win difference. It's a huge chunk of the season. It's like half the season better. Tom Brady went 17-0 or whatever

Starting point is 01:42:45 with a team that he went 11-5 that's a humongous difference right fuck you guys fuck both of you man I mean I still don't

Starting point is 01:42:53 I still feel like I'm an imposter with the Super Bowl shit I don't feel like we're a dynasty or anything like that we've won one Super Bowl oh you should not

Starting point is 01:43:01 feel like you're a dynasty that's what I mean well why am I getting to fuck you then you just won one I don't have dinosaur. That's what I mean. Well, why am I getting to fuck you then? Oh, well, you just won one. I don't have enough. Maybe it's because I've always had kind of a tie to Philly. My aunt lived there when I was young, so I'd go a lot.

Starting point is 01:43:13 And I always liked Philly. And then I never really had much experience with the people of Philly until I started working here. And I like everyone from Philly. So I don't. You're in the minority. I love Philly. Not people here, but most people are. I love in the minority. I love Philly. Not people here, but most people are.

Starting point is 01:43:26 I love Philly teams. I love Philly sports fans. I love Philly people. Like, I'm a big Philly guy. If not for me, just root for us for Smitty. Choose love. សូវាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប� Thank you. Bye.

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