KFC Radio - Sasha Grey, #SaveHighFidelity, Lick His Butt but Leave His Toys

Episode Date: August 6, 2020

Subscribe, Rate, and Leave a Review! -Emergency recording at 10:30PM as High Fidelity was cancelled #SaveHighFidelity -Brian Austin Green throws some shade at Megan Fox (17:13) -Jake Paul's house was raided by the FBI -Mike Tyson returning to fight -AITA Thursday -She threw away his toys -She kicked her boyfriend out -Voicemails -Sending ex an automated STD message -Sister in Law has 19 cats -A** eating reciprocity (01:48:22) Sasha Grey joins the show. We discuss how she's always been outspoken about empowerment, what factors elevated her to the top of the porn industry, being recognized from entourage, only-fans, and much more. Check out her new show Grey Area on the Venn Network (https://www.venn.tv/greyarea/)You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/kfcr

Hey, KFC Radio listeners, you can find every episode of KFC Radio on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. People stopped kissing, for sure, I bet, but, like, there's no way people stopped putting tongues in butts. We'll be right back. and try to, you know, crimp and pamper myself before bed. And horrible news from the entertainment world. High Fidelity, our favorite show featuring our favorite actor, Zoe Kravitz, consult. Ridiculous.

I'm stunned. I can't believe it. I thought this was like a big hit. I'm both legitimately stunned and legitimately heartbroken. It was one. I'm actually like going through phases of grief over it. And right now I'm in denial. Like I don't think like Hulu is definitely canceling it,

but I don't think the show will die. No, no. I think someone else is going to pick it up. Somebody will for sure pick it up. But usually Hulu is the one who picks it up usually it's a network that cancels and then like a streaming service picks it up when the streaming service cancels what what well it was originally designed for disney plus so maybe they take it i don't know like it was maybe it's not even a cancellation maybe it's like a it definitely

doesn't have disney plus vibes because it is kind of a not i wouldn't call it a dark show no but it's definitely sex and drugs and smoking and fighting you know like so i think it was disney plus bought it in 2019 and then i think when they decided to package with Hulu and ESPN Plus, it kind of made more sense to give it to Hulu. Right. But, I mean, there's – it's a – I guess it's a numbers thing, but, like, it's a critically acclaimed show. You know what's going to happen? So many people are going to watch it because of this,

because people like us who love the show are going to get fucking pissed and be like, watch this show, that the numbers are going to tick up again. And I think they're going to be like, we have to keep it. I mean, I guess maybe it's one of those, you know, Arrested Development type situations where the initial numbers really weren't that good. But it makes me feel like, yeah, I mean, if the numbers were bad and now they're going to get good because of this news, maybe that will save things. But part of me feels like it's like's like already was it was critically acclaimed it did have big

stars it it was popular it seemed but um i mean i'm upset you must be i mean this was your show this is like it is taylor swift and high fidelity are like John's things. Okay. It's still the only playlist I listen to. It's still. I mean, that's like nine months later. But the, I've never, and I'm pretty sure about this.

I'm prone to hyperbole. I admit, I don't think I've ever fallen for a character as hard as I felt for Robin, who Zoe Kravitz plays. Her fits, her personality, her look, her alcoholism, everything about her was like what I want in a girl. I'm trying to think of your other shows and characters throughout the years that I know you've gushed over.

And I can't think of anything that, you know, usually I know. Here's what happens. We watch a show. There's a character i bring i bring it up the next day at work and john says xyz is a weapon that's what i know that he's really head over heels for someone there was a new girl yeah new girls up there yeah even olivia munn and oh fiona from shameless nick says that's a great one. I don't think you ever fell in love with her, but it's definitely the vibe of Jane from Breaking Bad. That's what you

like. The dark gothic-y, you know, dark girl is like, that's, yeah, that's up your alley. And just like, ugh, everything about her was so fucking awesome. We can't, again, I'm in pure, outright denial. No doubt about that. But this show can't be done. It can't, again, I'm in, I'm in pure outright denial. No doubt about that,

but this show can't be done. It can't be done. We will save it. We saved AP bio AP bios now on Peacock TV. We will save high fidelity one way or another. Somebody will pick that up. We'll get Jake Lacey back on the show. We'll start to promote it. It's too good. I mean, I was, oh, I got on the show late. So I was excited to maybe, you know, when you catch up to a show late, you finish binging it and then the new season drops and you're like, oh, I thought that was going to happen with me. And quite the opposite. The mush strikes again. Well, it's also such a quick, a quick cancellation. Like the show hasn't been out very long. I believe Jake Lacey was one of our last interviews in studio.

Before the pandemic, yeah. I mean, that's what makes me think that maybe, you know, maybe it was more of a business deal thing with Disney+. Like, it was never going to live there for a long time or whatever. I'm trying to think of, like of what we could do for a campaign. Because Friday Night Lights was famously saved by everyone mailing NBC lights. Yeah. And they were just like, look, we're tired of fucking disposing of lights.

Can you stop this? We'll keep the fucking show. A vinyl is a little expensive to mail to Hulu. That's a little pricey. A light is very accessible. What if, I mean, there's no way to really inconvenience them, but there's got to be something with playlists and songs. Like if we pick a song from High Fidelity and that song all of a sudden has a bajillion streams on Spotify

because we told everybody to go there and we can single out, look how many people are listening to the songs. They like your fucking show. Maybe we should just start smoking cigs at fucking like Hulu's headquarters. Just have it filled up with smoke. Maybe we should just have like weird sex in their lobby. Do all the things that Zoe was doing on that show. God, we got to save it.

Save high fidelity. There's a playlist called, I i mean if you uh there was a tweet from spotify that went out recently like search search on repeat on your spotify and screenshot it and let people judge you and my spotify is basically all and high fidelity songs, but I'm lonely. Unbelievable song without love. Unbelievable song. One night stand sales. Oh,

they're all so fucking good. Lonely. If you are, there's a lot of lonely stuff on here, but maybe the, the boys to men. I'll make love to you, like acoustic version or whatever. Oh, with that Scottish guy, that Scottish little son of a bitch. They even had Jack Antonoff in this show, which pissed me off

because I don't really like Jack Antonoff too much. But they had the music world was in on this show. I really believe that not enough people – I think we only talked about it briefly. I think there are so many people, I think we only talked about it briefly. I think there are so many people that I just recommended this show to, just like, like just close friends and stuff. Like, hey, you'd probably like this.

And everyone's like, that's an unbelievable, unbelievable show. You know how good a show it is if you break the fourth wall and I still like it? Because that's rare for me to like have someone looking directly at the camera and me being like, yep, this is still a good show i went into it uh a little bit late and only i really didn't think i was gonna like it but i was like you know feis is really co-signing this one i gotta give it a shot and i banged it out in a fucking day i did like the whole fucking day it is it's not like you don't even have to be a professional streamer like us to watch it in one day. It's 10, 20-minute, 25 to 35-minute episodes, something along those lines. You can knock it out in four hours, no problem. It's an easy, easy, easy watch.

Everyone watch it. Everyone tweet at Hulu. Don't let it go. Hashtag save high fidelity. Fucking save Robin. I want to know what happened with robin and clive we got a lot of stories they and like it's one of those shows too where like they already had like a stranger things type deal where they already had plans for the second season like

one of the writers or directors said like i think in season two she's probably going to be like clive will still be around but she's probably going to be dating some people you haven't met yet she'll be dating strangers to you so like they already had shit laid out it's not one of those like all right we did our 10 episodes we wanted to be done that's it they already have their plans for season two to not to not let us find out what's gonna happen with them is fucking nonsense dude i can't wait for the day if i mean i know my dream let me rephrase my dream would be when everyone's ever says like, if you hit Powerball, if you had fuck you money, what would you do? This is what I would do.

I would fund High Fidelity. I would create an entire streaming service called like Second Chance or some shit. And it's where everybody who loves shows, they get canceled for whatever reason, bureaucratic bullshit, ratings, money, whatever. Come on over here. I'll fund it.

And you can live here for the art for just the content that's genius and it's kind of what netflix does where they get the shows that have a cult following which i think high fidelity does i think everyone who's seen it loves it and if you haven't seen it you just haven't given it a chance yet but what they do like like with you like You was a lifetime television show. And then they saved it after one season and everyone's like, this is the greatest show of all time once it gets on a streaming service.

I think, like Hulu hasn't really had, I guess Handmaid's Tale, but like their original programming, I wouldn't say has had much success. What else do they have? I'm going to look it up right now. Probably not much. I think they had, do they have i'm gonna look it up right now um probably not much i think they had do they have transparent oh normal people uh they had what's that uh rami which was i don't we

didn't watch it but that one golden globes and shit yeah that that gets a lot of praise i do want to watch that harlitz i never even i don't even know what harlitz is but that's listed as number one they had the fucking 9-11 show that I really wanted to watch, and even that I got lost interest in. The one with Jeff Daniels? I don't even remember that, no. Yeah, it was probably like three years ago. But it was when they were still doing –

they were very pot committed to weekly drops. And on a streaming service, which I like. I always say I'm a fan of them. But on a streaming service which i like that i always i always say i'm a fan of them but on a streaming service they just don't really work high fidelity did come out 10 episodes at once but the jeff daniels 9-11 show about like the lead up to 9-11 and like the intelligence that we had and you know they you know knew about the guy taking fucking playing classes in florida and all that shit it was supposed to be really good but it was just like I couldn't stick to it week to week. I think that's like Rami and normal people

are the only two shows that I've even considered watching. Look at this. I'm just reading an article. Maybe we're okay because I'm just reading an article now from December 2019 that says, Hulu's slate of originals almost rivals Netflix or Amazon in quality, whatever, but not in quantity. Maybe that will change now that Disney is mainly in charge. Disney has had a lot of content to push over on Disney Plus,

so that remains to be seen. So if there's some sort of, you know hulu is being taken over by disney plus maybe it's just a you know maybe it's a clerical thing like you're no longer on hulu but we're gonna go do it over on disney if there's it's almost like a merger happened so i'm hoping that this is maybe just a that would be a weird show for disney plus though it's like the mandalorian the avengers and high fidelity is a strange run of shows. But Disney's going to have to. They can't live off of just, like, cartoons and family stuff. They're going to have to get into some, like, adult programming, no?

I don't know. There's a lot of fucking kids. Yeah, yeah. I mean, they never have in the past hundred years, so why start now? But either way, hashtag save high fidelity, tweet your favorite songs, tweet your favorite pictures, your favorite moments.

We will save you. I honestly think that maybe, I think that being based on a John Cusack movie is not really the best. Like, I don't think that inspires people to be like, oh, I gotta go see, I gotta go watch this. He's fine. I don't think people like dislike John Cusack but if someone says to you like have you seen that new

show it's based on the cusack movie it's like okay whatever you're not telling me that it's like a dicaprio movie or some shit where you're like oh i gotta go see this yeah but also like like like um sally kravitz's reason for doing it which is like i knew it was happening was happening. The only reason I agreed to it is so they wouldn't fuck it up. Because her mom's in it. I've never seen the movie, but her mom's in the actual movie, I guess. And she's like, I just had to make sure they didn't fuck it up. And they didn't fuck it up. It's fucking awesome.

Lulu fucked it up by dropping the ball and canceling it. You see another picture posted of Lenny Kravitz and Jason Momoa? They posted another picture. I think it and Jason Momoa. They posted it. I think, I think, I think it was on comments by celebs. They posted a picture and, uh,

Zoe's mom commented and people were like, you know, this family's fucking awesome. Oh, didn't Jason Momoa like redo like her old Mustang or something like that? Like that. Yeah. And it was just another moment of everyone being, getting along.

And by the way, while we're on the topic of entertainment and comments by celebs, Brian Austin Green. Whoa, buddy. So if you're not caught up on that whole saga, Brian Austin Green, old school sex icon from 90210, was married to Megan Fox. Megan Fox recently gets divorced from him,

immediately takes up with our boy Machine Gun Kelly, and they have been nauseously in your face with pictures and captions and soulmates and all this kind of gushy stuff. Those twin flames, it's a higher level of plane than soulmates, twin flames. And honestly, I don't doubt that they are. Okay, and so she posted a picture with doubt that, that they are here's the, okay. And so she posted a picture with the caption. Um, let me get it exactly right. Uh, cause it was, again, it was

very, very dramatic. She said, achingly beautiful boy, my heart is yours with a black and white picture of her and MGK and Brian Austin green, then put up an Instagram of all of their children and said my achingly beautiful boys my heart is yours kind of you know like over here is what you really should be focusing on your kids and uh I mean that's well that's that's big shade but it's a stark difference from how he originally talked about this yeah Yeah, well, I think he's, you know, I think he was trying to downplay it or maybe was even not thinking of, you know, maybe not taking it seriously himself. And now it's very obvious that these two are hot and heavy and public.

And he's like, what the fuck is going on? His original comments were like, Megan was always honest with me. They met on day one of the set she told me about blah blah blah yada yada and he said something which was like pretty um i guess pretty poignant where he's like i don't want anyone to think there are any villains or victims here that's important for me i want you to know it was all we're all good and that was like two weeks ago but that was before you're talking about fucking the lights out of each other yeah that's the thing i i could imagine it's like listen all right we're getting a divorce you are you know you're swinging from

tree to tree here you kind of started up with someone new right away but okay and then you see the sexy instagram posts and the over-the-top captions and honestly if i'm brian austin green i'm sitting here thinking, you guys are going to break up in like two months. This is good. You're hot and heavy and it's going to be over in a minute. Take your twin flame shit and shove it up your ass. Cause he's a rock star. You're a girl who's gotten mad, got married early and is now free again. This is not forever.

And you guys are flaunting it in my face and everyone's faces, so fuck off. Because, listen, I mean, they're hot and sexy and perfect in a lot of ways, but they're not going to – I mean, come on. This is going to last another couple months. Give me a break. I would be surprised to see – I hope it does. We've met – not met.

We've interviewed MGK. He was nothing but great. I wish nothing but good things for Megan Fox because she has brought me nothing but good things in my life but i would be surprised to see this one go that if i if i were a betting man how are we going to take the under hey and when you're the the previous man and you got the kids at home it's like all right enough guys enough so big time uh big time social media drama shade whatever you want to call it and uh just devastating news out of the hulu world so if you're a high fidelity fan if you appreciate good tv if you haven't seen it

go binge it while you can and then join the movement hashtag Hashtag save high fidelity. It's another edition of KFC Radio on the Barstool Sports Network. I try to think about where we are in the industry because I feel like we're in a weird – I think we're in a weird spot because, like, we are – you know, Barstool Sports is a big deal. This podcast is big. It's been around for a while. It's successful. But I also still feel like we're always – we're, like, commenting on the industry and not necessarily like in it do you know what i mean

like i i don't know what you mean like when i when we talk about um like we talk about stand-up comics a lot and we're not stand-up comedians okay but technically we're starting with a different topic i was very lost okay i'm saying like when we talk about other comics i'm still thinking of it as like i'm a fan who does a does a podcast and we'll talk about other comics i'm still thinking of it as like i'm a fan who does a does a podcast and we'll talk about you know i like this one i didn't like this one did you hear that joke it was funny whatever and you know technically we're all kind of podcasters and we're all like contemporaries in a way but i still think of us as like we're observing the rest of the industry does that make sense yeah and not like in it and but then i also admit like i also understand that we are in it and i try to compare us to other people and other lifestyles

i think you do that too much i know i do i know i do for for sure not not always necessarily even in a bad way though not comparing like i wish i was these guys but it's just like i feel like i live uh a very different life than all the people who are also doing podcasts and work in the media industry. I'd say so. I disagree with that. Not in the media industry. I think podcast, yes.

But I think you live a life like a normal life. Like a normal life. Are we talking about Logan Paul right now? Yes normal life like right not like are we talking about logan paul right now yes okay yeah yeah i didn't know who we're talking yeah yeah yeah you said you were going with comedians and i was like i don't know yeah like well like comedians vloggers podcasters um uh even like other bloggers and shit like i i mean i feel like and i just always

i'm a dad and i go home i take care of my kids I do the work and that's it, whereas comics are on the road, vloggers are on private jets, like all this shit and the point being, roundabout way here is never a better example than Jake Paul's house being raided and them walking out

with a goddamn artillery like I never would compare myself to the paul brothers because i'm like they've they've been in mansions and they've been rich since they were like born and you know porn stars and private jets and parties and celebrity boxing and all that but but watching the feds who raided jake paul's house walk out with sniper rifles and machine guns i'm just like dude i i have a broken dryer at home that i keep calling my landlord about that's like the excitement of my life and a broken tv and a broken tv can we fix my my busted up apartment please and that's and they're like

you know raiding his calabasas mansion walking out with um you know a a full like wall of weapons i mean what the fuck is going on in jake paul's house i didn't know you could get rated for having a party well that's so that's what the he's been having covid parties basically and like flaunting it in the face of the the like the uh the mayor and the the police like his quote his quote was so dickhead he was just kind of like, our leadership is failing us. Nobody knows what's going on, so I'm going to continue living my life.

It's like, okay, man. We don't have to make this political, dude. You're just throwing parties at a time where we're asking people not to get together. Especially in LA, right? LA was like, did they have to come all the way back to stage? Yeah, they're like re-locking down.

Yeah. I think someone said there were people swinging from like heavy machinery i can definitely see it's not like a when when jake paul has a party it's not like hey let's get together and we're sipping wine or like oh let's play some beer pong it's like you know a rager with fucking sleeper rifles what do they call it redneck uh i forget it's like some kind of red it's like a redneck uh like a hillbilly version of whatever it's just like a fucking i don't know anything about manual labor like i'm just i'm trying to think of a name you're on like the backhoe and you're like you're swinging around

yes yes yes yes like that's exactly my picture there i picture probably firing guns in the air i picture um project x there was just like yeah the car ended up in the air. I picture the bum project X. There was just like, yeah, the car ended up in the pool. There's an elephant over there. Everyone's naked drugs, craziness. And so I,

I would imagine as, as we record this right now, Wednesday afternoon, uh, there's really no details, but I, I would bet this is like, uh,

this dude is, is being, you know, defiant about our rules and our laws and law enforcement, so we're going to find a reason to get a search warrant. But that seems like a ticky-tack thing. You're putting an extension on your house, and you don't have the right permit, so we can come on the property.

Or something crazy like that, where all it takes is one person at the party to make some sort of complaint and say, well, we have to check what's going on in there. And next thing you know, they're probably like, jackpot. You know what I bet it was? I bet someone was at the party and rumors were swirling that like, yo, I was at Jake Paul's party and there was a fucking machine gun sitting there in the living room. And then they have some sort of probable cause or some shit like that. Yeah, I guess.

But even that, like you can own guns, right? Like guns are legal. Yeah. But the affidavit, the search warrant is sealed. So therefore probably from commenting on the nature of the investigation. So like,

but I mean, and maybe those are all, I feel like there, there are some things when like, like the police raid your house. I don't know. They could be fucking up, but like the feds don't fuck oh oh like the police would be there without like without the probable right like the fbi

the feds it always says like if they arrest you and bring a case against you like they have like a 99 percent yeah i remember that with craig carton where it was like they waited and they waited and they waited and if he if they're putting him in cuffs and taking him away it's a wrap it was like a paul manafort thing too like if the feds are knocking on your door at 6 a.m there's a reason yeah now so i wonder i mean it would be the paul brothers they're they're the paul brothers are in like a weird spot because i feel like they were kind of the paul brothers and now i think there's logan paul and jake paul and they're obviously always going to be connected and they do do content together but really not as often as you would like i think if they were like on the same page Paul brothers. And now I think there's Logan, Paul and Jake Paul. And they're obviously always going to be connected and they do do content together,

but really not as often as you would like. I think if they were like on the same page, they would have impulsive would probably be both. Yeah. You know? So, I mean, and I don't know,

Logan would be with him when he was looting Arizona mall. Yeah. They're very separate. They promote each other and shit. But I mean, I think, you know, Logan,

I, I, I am a proud member of Team Maverick or whatever. I love Logan Paul. I think he's like does good content. And I think despite being like wildly successful at such a young age, he actually does have like some perspective. And so, like, if you listen to his show, he has some advice and some thoughts that are like well beyond just like I'm a YouTube millionaire. It sounds like he knows what he's talking about and i mean more who knows in our interactions with him i i don't really uh listen

to his show or anything like that but in our interactions with him i've had nothing but good things to say about right and jake i think and i think because logan went through the fire he had the the suicide forest thing where he got basically canceled and needed to like apologize and i mean i personally still i think that was shocking but i don't think it was like that fucking he didn't kill the person that's what i mean it was like it's a little distasteful but i think people they were blurred out too right yeah yeah and i mean he went to a place that's like that's you know they they do a vlog where it's like we're gonna go to crazy places and like documenting where where we are it happens to be

this place that's where suicide happens and i'm sure it was like distasteful but but i think people wanted to cancel jake logan paul because he's a rich white good-looking millionaire and so they found a way so he learned from that and whether or not he really like actually is sorry he learned how to apologize and you know a reclamation project where he came back j Jake hasn't done that. Jake hasn't really had to do it. Logan had a problem where he hit rock bottom. Jake's just been right above rock bottom the whole time, so he hasn't felt the need to really change his ways or apologize or whatever.

And so he's still living that life that I think most people are like, you're pissing me off. This bothers me that you know you throw these parties and and live this way but um but i don't know if those guns are like illegal or something i think that they're gonna be a problem like yeah i mean i think i this is pure speculation but those look like guns where it's like unregistered and then like every bullet is five years or whatever right right i've seen that in movies as like as as cops. They're going to jail for 500 years.

Yeah, yeah. 15, 20. That is the extent of my knowledge about the Second Amendment. Bullets put you in jail. I feel like wherever you stand with guns, I think we probably can all agree that maybe not. I don't know. But I think most of us could agree that you don't really need a sniper rifle.

See, I actually disagree with that. You think a sniper rifle is reasonable enough? I think that's the most fun one to shoot. Oh, okay. If you're shooting in the backyard at targets, that, to me, I've never fired a gun, but that, to me, would be the most fun one. I think that's maybe the most fun, but I also

think it's probably the most dangerous. It's the most dangerous... Dude, if's maybe the most fun, but I also think it's probably the most dangerous. It's the most dangerous. Dude, if I have a handgun, and I'm shooting at something 50 yards away, I can see everything that's there. If I'm shooting a fucking sniper rifle that goes like a

thousand yards, you don't know who's within that thousand yard range. I mean, you would hope you'd be able to see in the scope. I'm sure it's incredibly dangerous. Don't get me wrong. I'm not like, I'm not going to go buy a sniper rifle. And I'm just like, all right, I'm firing this. And then all of a sudden some kid on an ATV in the woods shoots by.

It's like, he didn't know that I was a thousand yards away shooting a gun. That's true. It's nuts. It's a fair point. It's a fair point. And I mean, they had what looked like those. You know, what are those shotguns called where the handle is almost like a pistol? Like, it's not like, you know what I mean? Like, it's like fair point and i mean they had what looked like those you know what are those shotguns called where the handle is almost like a pistol like it's not like you know what i mean like it's like a long i guess it's like a sawed off where it's just like a a long a long one but it still just has

like a regular handle and trigger those are cool it's one of those ones that come with a belt yeah yeah yeah yeah those are fucking like uh chris hemsworth has one in extraction where he's just kind of like swinging it up yeah i also feel like feel like that's the main one where you cock it. Right. With the cock. You know what I mean? Cha-cha. I'm sure Jake Paul can say, you know, I do a vlog and I have wild and wacky shit.

And, you know, here's my house. Here's my this. Here's my that. Here's my gun collection. But I think it's all, I i mean having an unregistered gun is like the number one like you dummy you know what i mean it's like it's like speeding when you got drugs in the car it's like come on this is day one shit man but i i feel like those guys have been so smart about you know yeah you might think we're assholes but we're not really

breaking any laws we're not hurting anybody um but in this case i don't know we'll wait to find out i'm sure by the time you're listening to this maybe more details have. But in this case, I don't know. We'll wait to find out. I'm sure by the time you're listening to this, maybe more details have come out. In this case, though, this is the most offensive thing Jake Paul's done in the last two weeks to me. What is? It's the fucking Nate Robinson fight. Just like the publicity stunt of it all? It's not really a publicity stunt because I guess it's a fight.

You're going to make a lot of money. but I just think it undermines the tight. Like I was kind of excited for Tyson, uh, Roy Jones and it just turns this into a spectacle with this, like with that being the undercard. I'm like, oh, I don't care. I mean that fight that, and that was, I think that we learned that that was the undercard before we learned that there's no knockouts allowed. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah.

The Tyson fight. There's no knockouts allowed. How can you do that by the way? I don't know. I mean, it's kind of like, it's clearly an exhibition. Yeah. It's almost like in a, I guess you, there's no knockouts allowed. How can you do that, by the way? I don't know. It's kind of like, what's too late? Yeah. It's almost like in... I guess you can't try for knockouts.

If you knock him out, you knock him out. It reminds me of in men's softball leagues where home runs eventually are outs. Right, right. So stop swinging for the fences. Are you going to punch at 60% strength? It is, but also, Mike Tyson famously said, everyone's got a plan to get punched in the face. You punch Mike Tyson in the face, no knockout rule might go out the fucking window.

I mean, he's going to see a random one. And just you get caught with that famous fucking uppercut because you pissed him off a little bit. That's a great point. Roy Jones, again, he also is famously evasive. Yeah, he can handle himself. But if you think that you're going into it like, let's have some fun, and all of a sudden Mike Tyson goes back to Holyfield days, like, I'm going to bite your ear off. You punch someone in the face once, they just see red.

They're trained professionals. They fight better, and they understand how to control their emotions more. But I think Mike Tyson is the most volatile of the bunch. I'm sure Roy Jones Jr. is not the most, like, you know, he's not soft by any means, but I think he will be able to control himself more than Iron Mike when tyson was doing like speeches about being sober for like 10 to 15 years and it came out was like i was never sober well i remember thinking that like you've never sounded so like you have always been all over the fucking map but he's in some he's in much

better shape now i feel like you know you you get caught with one of those i don't care what the rules are you might be on the fucking map yeah for sure but yeah if the if the first fight is jake and and nate i think we're actually uh i think as we get closer to the fight i think we're gonna get access to either or both of them i wonder what nate robinson is doing because like this is like logan made fucking millions fighting ksi and these guys like selling out the Staples center. They need to come up with content. They need to put on a spectacle. This is perfect.

What's Nate Robinson? I mean, I'm sure he's getting a paycheck, no doubt, but like for your longterm, is it really, is this like your only options left? I mean,

but like Nate Robinson career earnings, I'm going to look him up right now. I bet he did pretty good. Oh, I'm sure he did well. Yeah. I don't think he's like hurting unless he's just one of going to look him up right now. I bet he did pretty good. Oh, I'm sure he did well. Yeah. I don't think he's like hurting unless he's just one of those guys who blow all his money. I feel like I feel like there's easier.

If you're Nate Robinson, you can go like play for the big three and help promote it and go be a broadcaster for, you know, the TBT tournament or I don't know what 30 million. Yeah. I mean, that actually, though, is enough. That's not enough. If he was reckless, he could have burned through that quick. Yeah, because you could have been cut in half or out the top. Taxes, and then you got an entourage.

You pay for your family, buy a couple houses. Next thing you know, you got a couple million left. Look at these fucking goons on our TV right now. Biz and Wit on NBC Sportsnet. They're just such dummies. I love it. What a duo what a fucking biz and wit are arguably like the greatest like serendipity that ever just kind of like unfolded you know what i mean like

were these guys ever known together like when they were in the league at the same time as like buddies or anything like that not that i'm aware of i don't i don't know for sure but like the stars i'm sure they knew each other but it wasn't like um it like, um, it wasn't like, Oh, when Whitney retires, he's definitely have a podcast with biz. Right. Right. Um, you know,

even like, you know, that like Brady and Manning kind of like had an off the field, like friendship or whatever thing. Like I'd never heard of it. The fact that it was like, RA starts a podcast, Whitney decides to hop on,

biz retires and jumps on there. I mean, it's, it's like, there was so many things that maybe Fit and Chicklets never would have ever began, and now they've taken over the world. It's fucking incredible. Anyway, we'll find out how that happens with Jake Paul here, but not great.

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just i was just trying to trick other people into eating x last pizza i don't know if i did i don't i honestly don't know if i was successful it worked for me it's just you when you you were a multi-sport player when you played baseball were you the same idiot yeah okay because that that i thought would be funny if it's like hockey season i take my balls out we do these challenges baseball comes around it's like i got like a towel wrapped around me in the locker room because like i'm not with my hockey guys it was such a small school that like it was probably the same it was like the same people it was like it was weird it was like but would you ever behave differently like if if it wasn't the same group if you played basketball or something you know hockey basketball like diametrically opposed and you were in a locker room would you conform to like the basketball group, if you played basketball or something, you know, hockey and basketball, like diametrically

opposed, and you were in a locker room, would you conform to like the basketball ways or would you be like, yeah, I just do, this is what I do? I don't know about I would say no, because in football football didn't have a ton of crossover with hockey. Baseball and hockey were basically the same fucking team. But football, you would still

be the same? But football, I had like, I like brought guys over to the dark side with me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We were like six football players who would act like a dickhead. We had like beach chairs we just sat in the shower with and dipped and fucking just sat there spitting on ourselves. Did you ever soap up the shower floor and like slide on it? No, it wasn't big enough. Our shower wasn't big enough.

Because I mean, I always heard stories of that. Guys just like with their fucking asshole and their balls against the tile just picking up athletes' foot onto your asshole. The school I went to my freshman year, I was still too much of a freshman to do that kind of stuff, but it was a big enough hallway to do that in my sophomore, junior, senior year.

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Especially the town I grew up in, I had all these guidos and they had waxed eyebrows and waxed chests and all this shit. So I'm trying to keep up with the fucking wops. And I nare my chest and like nare should be illegal nare is dangerous i don't know how it you let you just let it like burn you right you just wipe it off you put this cream on and i guess it like gets under like the the the pore gets under the root and you wipe it off and it like just takes your hair off but that means there's got to be some like chemical shit shit going on. Oh man, if it gets on your nipples...

I had an itchy nipple the other day. Nipples are a very sensitive area. Yeah, they are. I one time tried to shave my pubes into a J. I was a virgin at the time. And that didn't work out well. It was just like

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So I'm the first person with my head down here, huh? Yep. So wait, you said you tried to. Did you fail? Yeah, no, I did. It just looked like a weird L. Oh, God, I got it. You've got to have a lot to work with. Yeah, and I also don't have that. Yeah, you always have patchy hair. I can't even imagine what those pubes look look like maybe two inches yeah not even that i guess i get like a

fucking just just a little who's on our show today uh sasha gray yeah so speaking of bush speaking of having like some some real estate to work with sasha gray's on the show today she had she had like more hair on her is it just s Sasha on the show today? Yeah. Yeah. Sasha Gray, solo dolo talking entourage and porn and her new TV show. But if you want to talk about having a real healthy bush, she's the one. You are not. You are not the one, dude. No, I'm like the anti-Sasha. But the Nair is like, I mean, I knew guys used to Nair their arms.

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where she's talking about anything and everything from relationships to partying, where her tagline is that just strangers living rent-free in my DMs while I live rent-free in their heads. So she makes videos answering questions and talking shit in the DMs or whatever. And so I figured it's Am I the Asshole Thursday?

I would go to her with one that we are going to do on the show. And it's already making some waves. I already got a couple calls about it on CCK. So I'm interested to hear what Fights has to say. And it kind of goes into everything we've been kind of dancing around. And I said on the radio one day we're gonna write a book or do a like a podcast or a series on you know like men's the reputation and expectations of men and the double standard and all that kind of shit you know and here I think this one goes uh pretty hand in hand

with all that let me pull it up I'm an asshole. Because I think that guys often are like not really. There's not many like hobbies or things that guys are really allowed to do outside of like golf. You know what I mean? Yeah. So this is a. I have no hobbies. I know. We'll talk about it.

I have no hobbies. Because that's a problem. I have no adult friends. I know. I have. I got nothing. I got nothing. I have adult coworkers who I'm friendly with.

I have one friend I do a show with. Aside from that, I have not made a friend or even been in a position to make a friend outside of a bartender. In like a decade. In over a decade. Yeah. Majority of your life at this point. I gave up making friends after high school. Right. I didn't even try in college.

As you probably should or that's what's normal. No, maybe that's not what we should be doing. That is what's normal I feel like now. because people have like a really i think we'll go to college and still stay yeah i bowed out of friendship i do feel like you i think most people gravitate towards their high school friends or their college friends um but i think that that post-college is like you know yeah you know a bartender you maybe i feel like you still always meet like anybody that I met after college. I still met through a college friend.

Like my post-college friends are my college friends, high school friends. So I didn't meet them in high school. I didn't meet them in college, but I still met them because of college, you know? I never, I don't have anyone like that.

Yeah. I mean, that's actually like the majority of my friends at this point. I have a couple like really good friends from high school who I don't see often, but if we were to hang out, we'd fall right back into it. But mostly my crew is my freshman year roommate. He stayed tight with all his high school friends, and I met all them. So in my mind, I met you guys when I was like 24,

but they're still really just all from someone's childhood. I kind of wanted to do a video series called Wanted Adult Friends where I go do hobby things, but then you've got to get everyone to agree to be on camera. Yeah, but we talked about better than the bar, right? Yeah, yeah. Or the bar's better. Yeah, whereas we go try things,

then we go, eh, let's just go to the bar. The bar's better. But that's how you would meet friends or find a hobby. Now, this guy, it's weird. It's weird. Am I the asshole for making my boyfriend get rid of his toy collection? My boyfriend has always called himself a kid at heart. He collects toys from quite a few series,

wrestling, teams, turtles, X-Men, anime, all that. We're in our twenties. I wish she specified more.

Cause I think like 20 is very different than like 29, but in our twenties, uh, they are not for collecting purposes. They're all out of the box and he plays with them. Whenever he thinks I'm asleep, I can hear him mimicking the voices of the characters or doing commentary. And I'll peek in the room and I'll see him actually playing with them.

That's another thing. It's a small apartment and he's got a whole room just for them and a whole dresser full of parts and cards, their guns and their weapons and such, but they're confined to that room. Nowhere else in the house, in the apartment, when he gets home from work, when he gets home from work, it's one of the first things he does, plays with the toys. We get packages from eBay or Amazon almost twice a week, but he still makes time for me. I thought

it was cute and endearing at first, but we've got a baby on the way, and my friends are all laughing at me. Sounds like you're dating a 12-year-old, they say. With the baby, I want to use that room for something like a nursery. I politely asked him for how he feels about getting rid of them. He said, no, I said something about giving them to charity. He said, no,

again, I brought up that we could use the extra money. If we sold them, he denied it. I asked about the baby, but he said, well, we'll just budget it out.

Like we always do how he'll spend less money on figures, but selling his collection is out of the question. I told him that we could make it. Uh, we could, we could make, I told him that they could make some other kid a less fortunate kid happy. Says no. The teasing for my friends has continued. They all say that he should grow up. Word got around to his father.

I showed my I showed the dad pictures of the toy rooms and he was shocked. He got mad and said, we're stopping it right now that he wanted him to grow up. This morning when my boyfriend was sleeping, his dad came over, grabbed a big trash bag, and started just grabbing handfuls, putting them inside. When he was almost done, I told my boyfriend what was going on and that it was for his own good. He ran out, saw the room was empty, saw his dad with two big trash bags, leaving with them.

He tried to grab the bag and was begging, and his dad said, it's time to grow up. He started crying and sat down. He was yelling at us, Those are all that I do. That's all that he does. Even though he had me, dad agreed with me. You got your lady and you got a kid on the way. You don't need this shit. He was sobbing. His dad put him in the car and left. He said he's tossing them in the trash. I told my boyfriend, sorry, but it had to be done. Think about the baby. Then he yelled at me about how he about how could he throw away the stuff I collect. He didn't actually throw them out.

It was just a bluff. He went to donate to a thrift store, but either way, he doesn't have them anymore. Was this truly wrong of me? Fuck yeah. Fuck yeah. 100% that's wrong of you. So rude. Borderline, like, evil.

Yeah. It's like the only thing this guy likes in life, and it's his one hobby. See, you can't lose your dinosaur, and I think everyone does eventually lose it, but if you're one of the few people who can hang on to it, fucking keep that shit. Dude, like, what are we going to do with this room when the baby comes? I don't know. The baby can be in a room full of fucking toys. It's not like you had a porn collection, and they had a porn room, and the baby wouldn't be allowed around it you could play toys with your kid and don't

get me wrong it's a little odd for sure weird to like like for sure collecting is one thing and just like like jeff lowe robbie fox they kind of have i don't believe that they like play and do voices it's a little different but guess what? That keeps his imagination running. And not to mention she said he keeps it all in the one room he keeps it all in the dresser Still makes time for me. And the dad walked away with two garbage bags which is probably a lot of toys

but I was picturing like you know, thousands of toys. He's got a couple bags of toys that he plays with. He waits till you go to sleep. He doesn't bother you with it. Yeah, that's some real fucking Seinfeld shit. Remember when they, with that episode that it's like really weird now where they drug the girl so they can play with her toys?

Yeah, she's passed out with like tryptophan and Benadryl and shit. But like, I'll tell you what bothers me the most. Did you notice anything that jumped out multiple times in this description? I think two or three times she said her friends are oh yes that's what this is about it's not about the baby it's not about money it's you don't like what your boyfriend's hobby is other people found out about it and you're embarrassed like you don't that's all this is like i i i hate to tell you i think you don't like your boyfriend right you don't like one of the core parts of who he is as a person. He's a creative, imaginative, playful, you know, like, again, a little bit weird that he's, like, still into kid shit, but that's what he is.

And especially nowadays with comic books and Avengers and figurines and all that kind of shit, Twitch and video games, like, nerd culture is it's their time to live. It's their time to shine. And you're just, I mean, he's fucking, like, sobbing over it. And he said to you you it's the only thing i like that's really all that matters your opinion about the toys i do think it's weird i would make fun of you if i found out you were like like oh dr evil's got me like if you were doing weird shit like that strange but if someone was just like this is the only thing i do And he knows it's weird because he waits till people go to sleep. He hides it.

He knows that he's got a little bit of like a taboo stigma, stigmatized type of thing. And he does his best to like hide it while being like, this is the only thing that makes me happy. And you're and by the way, I am guaranteeing you that the reason why he is into this childish shit and all that is because he has the type of father who comes by and like stomps on his dreams and throws his shit out and says grow up well i was gonna say at least he got this many years with it because i lost him at six that's yeah you know what you either gotta nip this in the bud before someone like is that attached or or you gotta let it go at six years old i was in love with barbie dolls and the new york rangers both of those things not allowed 12 years old i was in love with Barbie dolls and the New York Rangers. Both of those things. Not allowed. Twelve years old, I fell in love with women.

Started hanging up Sports Illustrated pictures all over the place. Not allowed. You got Bruins posters and that's it. Deal with the kid. I mean, it's true, though. Once it's like 20-something, that is a big part of his happiness. And really, it's not about... I have breaking news for you.

You want more room for your baby? You're going to move out of your apartment. It's not that you need this extra nursery space. You probably already don't live in it. Why do you need more room for a baby? You got a crib, right? Right. The fuck's the baby going?

And again, what are you going to put in there? Toys. Toys. So fuck off with this idea. He's probably going to... If he had half a brain what are you going to put in there? Toys. Toys. So fuck off with this idea. He's probably going to, if he had half a brain, he's going to fall in love with baby toys. I'll just be like, I'll play with these. Start playing with that. I'll play with these fucking baby toys.

Now, I mean, this goes into a bigger discussion of like, like if you did this to a girl, whatever the equivalent is, you know, if a girl, girls get into very, I said on CCK, like they get into like tchotchkes and decorating the house with things and all that. And if you were just like throw this in the garbage, like fuck this, you would be like an abusive boyfriend. You would be crazy. If you threw out their shoes, their bag, their clothes, if they had any sort of toys, they're gone. What's the thing now? The fucking – not diamonds, but what are they?

Rubies? Rhinestones? I don't know. One of those like fucking know one of those are all yeah those are all things like spiritual like fucking oh uh like chakra uh crystals crystals whatever whatever crazy shit girls are coming up with next guys would probably sit around being like oh my god it's so crazy that she like does that shit she's like lighting incense and all that but you would if you bagged it up and threw it out and you were like, my friends are making fun.

I mean, you would be shamed till, till kingdom come. I mean, it's like the double standard there is fucking crazy. And I think what I've learned, uh, I, I remember, you know, the, the question we've been asking a lot recently, if you could go back in time and tell yourself one thing, I would say take up golf because it's the one thing that just gets this hall pass. And I guess kind of fishing is involved. It's like girls will let their boyfriends or husbands. You can golf every weekend. You can go away on trips for extended periods of time.

And I don't think that comes as free as you think. I mean, I just for my personal experience, I remember I know I'm like the guy who doesn't golf in my group and that my friends all go on like these golf trips with like 10 or 12 of them and and all the wives i mean i've thought about it but they all like they're pretty like into golf and i just don't want to be like i mean i'm i'm so bad at golf that i would i wouldn't be like even enjoyable for me to be out there like like suck that much. But, um, but they all go and like, and they're, and these, and the same wives, that'll be like, if we're ever out at the bar, everyone's like, all right, I gotta get home. Like, you know, clock's ticking. But if it's like golf, they're just like, see you on like Thursday, see you next week,

whatever. And it's some sort of like free pass. I think we were trying to narrow down why. And at first I was thinking, you know, if you've been golfing for a long time, you know, I'm trying to get better. I want my handicap to be down to this or whatever it may be. It's, you know, it's exercise, whatever thing. I think it's that there just aren't typically chicks around. And I think that's why girls are okay with it.

Well, there aren't typically chicks around fucking toy stores either. Well, yes, but I'm saying in the realm of like forget about the the extreme of like toys and shit but if you i always said you know these guys can go out and for a round of golf for like six hours uh you take care of the kids you deal with this i'm going out and and they're like okay fine if they were to just say we're going to the bar for six hours you'd be like no you're fucking not and like i'm trying to figure out what the main differentiator is because you're still drinking, you're still hanging out you're not doing anything but I just don't think there's any threat of

cheating or girls or anything you can at least kind of spin golf as work even if it's not work that day it's like, I don't know, there's just a stigma that deals get closed it's a valuable skill to have

those are all the things that I go back in time and say, learn how to golf and keep hammering how important it is for the modern world. And, hey, I got that big bonus because of golf. You want that nice house? I got a golf. All that shit. And just convince them. Because guess what?

Those are all lies. Those are all just spin zones. Especially in this profession, I don't think there's much business that's as close on a golf course. None. I don't think anyone here, aside from the four-point guys, I don't think anyone here is really a big golfer. Caleb. Caleb's going to become one. That's really about it.

Dave won the U.S. Open. Rarely. But, you know, I think you can kind of get away with it with golfing as well. Casey mentioned camping maybe in certain places. I don't know. That's not really as popular around here but there's just a handful of things that kind of get the whole pass skiing yeah yeah yeah yeah my dad doesn't golf it does a lot of ski i think that often uh the difference with all those is that usually girls don't get involved i think

a lot of times a girl will be like i'll come on the ski weekend with you i want to ski too i don't think it's very i think it's very rare that a girl will be like, I'll come on a ski weekend with you. I want to ski too. I don't think it's very, I think it's very rare that a girl will be like, I'm going to come golfing with you. Yeah. You show up to the course with your girl. If you're going for like a little weekend trip, yeah, but like a guy's ski trip, those are accepted too. Right, right.

Where it's like just the boys are going. It's, and if you're outside of those handful of things, you're, it's, you know, you're the weirdo. If you like golf, if you like video games, if you like these figurines, if you – I can't even think of other hobbies because that's how bad it's gotten. You know what? I'm coming around. I think guys can have – sports, I think like – sports you can go – no one –

I'm only speaking for like the relationships I'm involved in, which is mine and my parents. If I'm like, yeah, I'm going to the game tonight mine and my parents. Like if I'm like, I'm going to the game tonight. Oh, going to a sporting event. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Um, yeah, yeah. That's, I just think that that, um, I think if you were to do that as frequent as you did, as you went golfing,

I think if you have season tickets, that's a great one too. Yeah. Like people who are like, my grandfather had tickets and I don't know. It's like, it's a family tradition. We have to keep going, especially with football. Uh, I think the family life is inclined to are like, my grandfather had tickets and I don't know. It's like it's a family tradition. We have to keep going, especially football.

I think the family life is inclined to be like Sundays. You go to the game and like, that's it. I think if you were to like during the summer, if you went to like a baseball game every weekend, the same way you do golf, I think you would probably catch some flack. I don't know. Again, I really do think it matters if it's season tickets. If you just kept buying tickets, but if it was like, this is an investment we make, and then we go every year, yeah, I don't think girls would...

I don't think a wife or a spouse would fuck with that. I think if you're just consistently out of nowhere, they're like, we're going to the game tonight, we're going to the game tonight, unexpectedly, I bet you would get not as much guff, but you would get some guff. I don't think he has season tickets anymore, but one of the most impressive feats I've seen in Boston

sports history was Dennis Drinkwater for, like, a 10-year span went to more or less every Red Sox game. Every event. That would be inconvenient if you lived in Fenway Park. Yeah. Like, let alone if you live, like, in the suburbs. Yeah, get into the city. That's a fucking pain in the ass

if you live in that seat right and just be sitting there every night for four hours i i still i mean i i got introduced to him through like you guys and barstool the the home run thing is like it's the funniest quirkiest sport uh super fan thing i've ever seen he's up and gone like does not watch the whole land has he ever been wrong i'm sure he's been wrong i can't i can't remember i would love that if he's like up the stairs and someone you know makes a good diving catch it's like nope get on back down also dunn flint for foul balls back like yeah oh that's what it is that's what i mean like that's not human no that that makes me think he's just like old and blind like he's not human. No. That makes me think he's just, like, old and blind. Like, he's not, like, iron nerves of steel. He's just like, oh, I didn't see that. It's crazy.

That's a good point, actually. It's crazy. But, listen, overall, girls, and this, like I said, this is all part of a bigger discussion of, like, the modern adult man who's really trying his best. We're talking about if you're a good person, if you're just a scumbag, whatever. But the modern adult man is trying to be good to you and understand you and learn how to be more emotional and more in tune with his mental health and all that shit. While also every now and then you still get hit with the be a man, man up card it's like i gotta do both i thought i thought we were equal now all of a sudden i gotta go back to being like the caveman like i gotta run the house it's fucking hard it's really hard especially when most of your most of you you've been like programmed to be like

what do i do it's like i i part i drink and i fuck and i do you know what i mean so when i when you do find something that's like i um you know i play with these figurines or i fucking you know i i do like like chaps i do like woodwork shit in the garage or whatever like just let me just let me do it i mean that that i think at one point there's a quote there being like he says like this is what I do to make me happy. Casey on the radio said, like, word of advice for girls. And she had to, like, preach this to people. Just let your man do what makes him happy. Yeah!

Yeah! Do that! Like, that should not be, like, oh, back yourself on the back. I let my man have happiness. Right. I let him have a hobby. I let him do things that bring him joy. That should just be the way.

If you don't like what makes a guy happy. You don't like him. You don't like him. You don't like him. And that's okay, too. Yeah. Then you just shouldn't be together. But don't be like, you're a piece of shit because this makes you happy.

It's toys. Right. We're talking about toys. If his favorite, if his thing that brought him with fucking prostitutes or yeah then i can understand it this harms nobody all this harms is your fucking ego because when you get meet up with the girls they say you know how's your fucking little little baby boyfriend playing with his toys which is fair and that and if that's a problem then you should not be with him like that but that's funny ball busting.

It's fair to bust someone's balls. It's not fair to steal their toys. No. And really, you should either be like, fuck you guys. He's awesome. And maybe he should dump her. Maybe he should be like, I need to go find someone who's in this culture. I've seen a lot of Am I the Assholes where there's other disputes,

but they say we're both into video games, we're both into things that maybe stereotypically girls wouldn't be into, but you find a group and a crew that wouldn't shame you for that. They'd be like, oh, I have the same figurines. Let's fucking play together. I don't know. It's weird, but it's just if you were to do the same thing to a girl, if you were to throw out clothes of hers that you don't like. If you were to force her to stop listening to murder podcasts, because that's what every girl does in the whole world now.

You just said that. I just got to chill down my spine what they would do to you. You would be branded an abusive boyfriend if you said enough with the goddamn true crime murder podcast. This is weird. It's embarrassing. You don't get to listen to him anymore. You'd be like well now there's going to be a murderer in our house i forget what show i said it on if i've been cck

it might have been this show but like that recently happened with like i was with four girls and they were it was like just like like guys meeting up like i finally got it i got what like girls hated talking about like sports it was like and again we're being very stereotypical here of course not all not all always general women but um it was like the four of them the gaggle of girls talking about murder and the crimes and the stories you didn't know and you just sat there it was like all right this is i am not interested in this it's like when someone's like it's a it's a mike krause the mvp no mcgogabrera is it's like yeah they don't care the same way you don't care about that missing case from 2010 not even a little bit and

it's it's gone a little too far. I'll say it. I think. Murder podcast has gone too far. I just think it's so weird. I think the obsession with murder podcast is bizarre. Yep. And it's not even just murder podcast.

It's just murder stories. All I want to do. All. Like. We go out for drinks. It's like. Oh. Have you seen this new documentary?

This new true crime like i don't know man i'm just tired of hearing about sad stories yeah well that's what's also so weird about when the girls like it because it's it's inevitably like the girl gets raped and killed and it's like you of all people should be like i can't i don't want to right i guess gotta be some morbid dark like i mean maybe yeah maybe you should like be aware of these things that's a good thing but to be like into it is like, what the fuck? I think that's why it's real weird if guys are into it. Yeah.

Because you're, I guess, quote unquote, winning in the podcast. You might get caught, but like you're not dead. Yeah. So you're theoretically coming out on top. Right. And if you were like, yeah, I love this guy. That's a problem. But they're like.

Can't root for the bad guy in the true crime. Can't do it. Jackie, are you there? Do you, what are your thoughts on everything we just said? You're a little bit younger, but like, I mean, I do think that the true crime thing, maybe I'm wrong, but I do feel like it's something you get into when you're like commuting to work and all that kind of shit. If you're still kind of in college and like partying and socializing, maybe it's not quite

there. But like, what would you, would you, uh, throw out, would you like stop your boyfriend from dressing a certain way or acting or doing a certain hobby or whatever? Um, I mean,

this guy seems like he has, no, this guy seems like he has other issues. Like the whole crying part, the whole dealing with it. Wasn't great. That kind of says more about him, but it's, if it's a hobby like poor guy that's what he would love so i do feel bad for that i know exactly what you're saying but do you even see how that's unfair

be like this guy was crying he's got fucking problems if a girl starts crying about something it's like well you know i gotta i gotta console my girlfriend she's crying again if a guy starts crying about something people are like he must be fucking crazy. It is. It is a little. That's a good point. It's not fair. It's not fair, but also to just sit on the ground and pout.

Totally weird. Totally weird. It's bizarre. Totally weird. Cry to your father, too. I can't. I don't know the last time I cried to my dad. But this is the problem.

These are the problems. I agree with you, and it's all correct. But it's like, I mean, if a guy cried with the same frequency, again, stereotypically speaking, that a girl does, I think the girlfriend and other people would be like, get it together, dude. You know? I mean, when a girl just will, like, cry about her day at work, it's like, that just happens. If a guy does that, it's like, you need professional help. Double standard, Jackie. It's not fair.

Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. That's a good point. It's a good point. The whole talking is sleep thing though. And like the figurine thing. I mean, if you sneak out, if you sneak out while you, well, if he sneaks out while you're sleeping to play with toys, it's because he's like, she won't let me. Okay. But don't get me wrong. It's weird. As for the true crime podcast thing, I mean, I'll

admit I listen to true crime podcasts, but like, they're also objectively good. Yeah. Like, I feel like that's interesting to everybody. It is, but like... I don't find interesting to everybody it is but like i don't find it interesting no no i don't i try and shield myself from sad stories yeah i just don't look at them because they make me sad yeah i don't i don't i don't i mean if you were to watch something that had the same production value the same script writing or whatever type you watch but it was

about like um uh like interesting business cases or something, you wouldn't care. We were talking about it on cry movies when I did High Haters the other week. And I was like, I don't have any cry movies. Like movies that you watch because you know you're going to cry.

Don't get me wrong. I'll cry during a fucking movie. But I'm not like, oh, this is my favorite movie to put on and cry to. I think that's weird, too. I'll cry during a fucking movie. But I'm not like, oh, this is my favorite movie to put on and cry to. I think that's weird too. I do believe that there are – I think after you cry, you like – I feel better. Like I got all that shit out. So maybe there's like – I guess if it ever got to the point where it's like, all right, I got shit to do. So I got to get my cry out right now.

Let me turn on fucking Only the Brave with Miles Teller and I'll just weep. Yeah, that was one that came up. But I wouldn't do that to myself. I feel like more typically girls will do that where it's like let me put on Taylor Swift and sit here and have a good cry. And it's like, I think that's fucking insane. Cons

had a whole list. Yeah? That he puts on to cry. Yeah, he had a lot. I don't know if it was he didn't come with a list prepared. But Cons was rattling them off. He had a lot of crying. You know if it was all... It didn't even come with a list prepared. Yeah. But cons was rattling him off. He had a lot of crime movies. Well, cry baby, bitch boy. You think you're tough because you went to fucking war?

Give me a break. Fucking pussy. All right, let's get into a couple more. Am I the assholes? Do you have any? I got one here. Okay, let it rip. That was a long one.

Let's see here. Okay, am I the asshole for kicking out my boyfriend after humiliating me at dinner in front of my employers I employers I a 22 year old female recently started working as a private tutor for a wealthy family the job pays very well and really improved my financial situation

I'm fortunate to have secured this role but it's still the beginning stages I'm not trying to fuck things up last week the couple invited me to dinner and said I could bring someone along I told my BF about this and he warned me and asked if he wanted to come. He said yes. I warned that these people can be a bit snobby,

so I expected him to show good manners. So the dinner happened and it started off well. I noticed my boyfriend was nervous but didn't think much of it. Then I noticed he was drinking more than usual. He rarely drinks. I kept giving him looks to hint that he should stop drinking. He was completely oblivious to behaving like a nervous wreck.

After a short while, he got so drunk and he started talking absolute shit. He looked at me from across the table, pointed at me, and asked if I was single.

For some reason, they actually found that amusing, so there was a bit of relief. I quickly changed the topics. Ha! It got worse. This is so painful to type out. He started telling me

about our sex life. Oh boy. He said, last week I had a sneezing fit while I was on top, and it felt good. And he's become a changed man since then. It was dead silent. I didn't get that squeeze going. It was dead silent, and he was the only one giggling to himself.

I apologized profusely to the couple and went to the restroom with him. I was so fucking upset and angry and told him that he's an embarrassment. He kept saying he felt sick and then threw up. I went back to the dining table and explained to the couple that my boyfriend felt sick and decided to get some fresh air i was so upset that i didn't stay around for more than 10 minutes they didn't seem too appalled but it doesn't matter anyway when we went home i decided to kick him out i told him that he didn't want to see his face at this moment he went to a friend's place to crash and that's where he's been staying ever since he's begging me for forgiveness but i don't care my friends

found out that they all agree and they all agree that i'm a huge asshole for kicking out my boyfriend they said that i overreacted and don't care about his well-being at all that he deserves someone who cares she kicked him out while he was like blackout drunk and sick and stuff uh yeah it seems like when we went home i decided to kick him out okay i mean all right this is now i'm like back on the other side i mean mean, this is just like wildly inappropriate behavior. It's I never, I have, you ever drank like that?

No. We're like, I'm nervous. Oh, so like, um, I know, I guess not nervous,

but like, I have been going into a event that's like, I don't want to be here. It's gonna be a long one. I got to like take the edge off, but never like I, I don't want to be here. It's going to be a long one. I got to take the edge off. But never like... See, I never think about it as something like that.

I enjoy having a drink. That's a good sign. But I'm not like... That's how I know you're not still an alcoholic. I remember going to showers and stuff and I can say this because it was...

She was doing the same thing. Like, I don't want to do this fucking bridal shower. Let's have a couple glasses just to take the edge off. But never like, because, because it doesn't make sense because this is what happens.

Right. If you're nervous to the point that you're going to be in front of people that you feel like you have to impress being drunk is going to make that worse. I mean, I, I actually do believe finding that sweet spot where it's like, I'm a little, you know, socially lubricated now, but inevitably you're going to take it too far.

And so now your worst fears are coming true because you fuck you're an idiot um i'll like i'll have a drink before i'll have a drink at dinner but i'm never like i'm nervous until i have a drink yeah it's kind of just like it's it's more ritual than medicine right you know right and you make you might get the effects but it's not the intent right going into it yeah i've been too drunk before but it it wasn't like i'm uncomfortable i'm nervous i'm nervous i gotta keep drinking this right feel better right i've never i've never uh i've never really drank like i when i even when i jokingly say like i drown my sorrows i usually like stop when i should stop you know like i've never been like oh like the

fucking mets lost i gotta start drinking and go, like, completely blackout. I'll still be like, all right, I've had my fill. Things still suck. But, like, I'm not going to. On top of all this, it'll suck if I'm, like, puking in the street. So I'm not going to keep going that direction. If you. I mean, that's that.

That's embarrassing. That was bad. That's bad. That's embarrassing. Talk about she had a sneezing fit while she's on top. I mean, first of all, objectively funny story. Objectively funny. I also understand what he's embarrassing. Talk about she had a sneezing fit while she's on top. I mean, first of all, objectively funny story. Objectively funny. I also understand what he's saying.

It's probably got to feel different. I've been sneezed all over by my girlfriend, and I'm into it. Like, I don't know. I imagine that has full body repercussions. Like, I imagine, like, things are tightening up. Well, that's what I'm. I wasn't thinking about the snot. If you're sneezing on me, that's gross.

If you're covering your mouth and things are really tensing up, I think I can get ways to change man i think i this guy's got a feather under her nose this guy's gonna go home she's on top yeah he's pepper in her nose it's pepper like fucking uh who's the wrestler gold dust does i mean like he's that's a fucking we gotta write that down that's gotta be like in a tv show one day fucking Fucking, uh, who's the guy in, uh, in the black, uh, dark night. No, that dark night. Yeah. Uh, the, um, the scarecrow.

Yeah. Poisoning you. Oh, those people down in Columbia, the devil's dust or whatever. Right. I forgot about that. Yeah. Change. I mean, that's what she, he needs to do that and then be like, sneeze, sneeze while you

fucking bitch. I mean that I can see that being a whole new experience but i don't think one that you can tell in mixed company yeah i wouldn't say it to my snooty wealthy uh girlfriends employers i mean that's it's why it's a wild move especially when you see someone like why are you drinking you don't usually drink it's like you're doing something out of anything out of the ordinary when i just need you to be like normal today yeah like if you were just doing like if I just started doing construction one night, be worried. Cause I don't know how to do construction.

Just sitting there like ripping cigs. Like you don't do that. You don't do construction. You don't drink. What are you doing? Yeah. Or like, or imagine that,

imagine, and I could see this happens, but like somebody shows up dressed completely different. Like I'm trying to impress. So they come wearing like a suit and like a monocle and they're talking with an accent it's like this no stop it what are you doing no so i mean all you know maybe from from the right place came with a good heart but um i think he's the asshole here he's 100% the asshole i mean and i don't think she's the asshole for kicking him out you know what's interesting i'm on my uh my uh i'm a masculinist I'm fighting for men here today

I think kicking out Is something that's a Terrible double standard too Because you know you can't kick a girl out Like in night time because it's dangerous Yeah because it's okay Which is probably our fault Yeah I mean it all eventually comes back to where the problem

But I mean Kicking someone out of like their house, their home where they sleep is a fucked up thing to do. That's true. I never really thought about that. We have normalized that. We have normalized getting slapped and getting kicked out. It's like, yeah, she made me, you know, she kicked me out for the night. I had to go like sleep on a friend's couch.

If you did that to a girl, again, abusive boyfriend, you left me on the street where nowhere to go. You do that to me all the fucking time when you're like, get out. I mean, they're just, those are just things that happen in fights with women. When you're in a relationship,

there are just things that I would never dream of saying or doing to another person. And girls do it to us pretty cavalier. I've only been attempted to be kicked out once. And I was kind of like the, the guy who we saw at the bar the other day who was like fucking move me like yeah yeah yeah yeah if you wanna like you wanna kick me out make it happen and it was because it wasn't my fault at all yeah it was we were asleep and i rolled over and i guess it rolled her off the bed and she woke up furious and was like, get the fuck

out of here! And I was just like, alright I'm just gonna go to the other room, you're clearly angry, and then like, went back to sleep and like, two hours later she woke up and was like I'm really sorry about that. And I'm like, what if I had left? Right, what if I was just wandering the streets right now? I've been kicked out before and it's like, this is

this is horrible. I got kicked out on Christmas once. It's like, what the fuck is this is horrible i kicked out on christmas once it's like what the fuck is this about i mean some dark deep terrible shit where i'm just like i would never do this to anybody no matter how bad it gets yeah no matter how bad it gets i would be like well you know we can go in like separate rooms or whatever we have multiple rooms yeah and that's really all it is all it is is like get out of my face so i I can do that. You need me to be outside? In another house? What the fuck?

So no. No slapping. No ruining hobbies. No kicking out. Goodness gracious. Should we get into voicemails? I feel like we've been doing... These have been running long.

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What's up, Dwight? KFC, Super Producer BC. I got a little question for you. I know I'm the asshole, so it's not am I the asshole, but I want to get your thoughts. Recently, my girlfriend cheated on me, so we broke up. And I found

online that you can send an automated message to someone anonymously that they hooked up with a partner that has an STD. So obviously I did that to get back at my ex. I just want to know your thoughts about this move,

and also what would you do if you got a message like this? This is the lamest shit I've ever fucking heard. I don't even know if I quite understand it. You break up with me, and I send you an automated message that says you hooked up with someone who has an STD? Yeah, because he cheated on him. So it's... Okay, wait, I missed the cheating part. So she...

He gets cheated on. Yes. And then he sends a message that says, hey, we hooked up, and I have an STD? Yes. So you're convincing the person they cheated with gave him an ST hooked up and I have an STD? Yes. You're convincing the person they cheated with gave him an STD. I still think this is lame as fuck.

I would agree with you. I definitely wouldn't do it. But there are parts I understand. Because you want to get a little something. I get the craving for revenge. Yeah, everyone wants a pound of flesh.

But also, it's just like that. I mean, I guess you're just going to send them into a frenzy a little bit. Yeah. As someone who's thought they had an STD, it's a frenzy. Yeah. That's a good word. That's a good description. You go into quite a frenzy.

Yeah. So maybe in that case, it's just like they were petty to you and immature, and you're going to be back. You're going to do the same thing back to them I just feel like the idea of winning the breakup in general I think is I mean the best you know the best revenge is always just like living your life and fucking being just being better but yeah but also there's a good piece of revenge like yeah

I guess I don't know I guess would you do it in theory I guess I I would say that it sounds like I don't know it's not the worst thing ever. Because, again, it's not that evil. It's not that big a deal. Pretty quickly, they'd probably send a text and be like, what the fuck? You have an STD?

They'd be like, what are you talking about? No. And then you'd be like, oh, my ex is being a dickhead. Right. But a moment of panic. The whole saga lasts 10 minutes, probably. Yeah. I wonder what the message says.

I would guess it appears to come from a hospital and it's not like you know the i was thinking it would be more like hey i heard you hooked up with uh steve um just want to let you know like he you know i hooked up with him too he's got blah blah oh i guess that would work too i was thinking more like contact tracing like i don't know how it works but i don't think hospitals then will give a name because i think that's like yeah illegal or whatever covid19 yeah yeah um i feel like that's like against rules and shit so i mean i think that if you do get this you got to be pretty aware you should be pretty aware that like it's not real but i mean if it works for that split second

it's like gotcha bitch yeah now you know like i'm feeling pain you're feeling pain but also again it's only 10 minutes it couldn't have have done that, that extensive of a trick. And unless you send the text while you're watching from a tree or something, you don't even get to see the panic. Right. Just assuming it happens, you know,

like she, like she probably looked at that. I was like, fuck it. Yeah. Dick. How stupid do you think I am? I don't know.

The, uh, uh, the idea of winning the breakup to me is one that I feel like as I've gotten older, I'm just like, I could care less and less and less about that. Yeah, I guess that's true. I don't think I've ever tried to get any revenge of any kind. I've never been cheated on on so i don't i don't i mean i guess if a breakup makes you get in shape and be more social and dress better and all those things that's a good

thing you know you should do that because that's just what you should do i think you know doing it out of like spite i guess whatever your motivations are doesn't matter as long as it's like good results but i just think if you're ever really curtailing your, what you normally do, if you're stopping doing that because of a breakup, if it's still, if you're letting a breakup impact you in a negative way or doing, you know,

going out of your way, spending money or spending time or just doing shit that's like out of character. I think it's like out of character i think it's like well you're you're losing the breakup yeah they're still affecting you you're you're making it clear that you're not right hand like i would you know that's almost like uh you know blocking what what's the phrase you always use uh like don't ever give them material to yeah uh it's not my quote i forget who it was i think it was oh it was. I think it was. Oh, fuck. Yeah. I think it was Brandon Wardell, I believe. But he said, don't block it.

You can never give your enemy content, which is kind of, you know, it's like if she gets together brunch the next day, she's like, you know what? That loser ex-boyfriend of mine who played with figurines did like he like took the time to find an automated. That's like, yeah. And then, you know, it's like giving someone the block. Like, yeah, look, I got then you know it's like giving someone the block like yeah look I got you know you're soft so I wouldn't

do any of this shit but I guess you know if you get them going fuck I've got gonorrhea you know ah gonorrhea you don't care about you know what I'm so happy about if you're gonna hit them with one you gotta hit them with herpes yeah the one that's permanent everyone knows gonorrhea I mean AIDS

AIDS is a tough one. I feel like I'd rather have AIDS than herpes. Nowadays, yeah. Right? Yeah. Is that crazy? No, I mean, AIDS is, you know, we can slow that one down now. Yeah.

Ain't no stop. Herpes is the most, like, unstoppable force on Earth. Like, how? I can't believe they haven't figured something out, you know? That is true. Right? Like, figure out a... Like, we is true, right? Like figure out, I mean,

we're going to have a coronavirus vaccine in like a year. I mean, maybe it's just like a virus thing that, I mean, I guess that's the point. You really can't stop a virus. You can slow it down. But if you,

if somebody came up with a fucking cure for the herp, people would pay endless amounts. Would you know? Cause like, I don't even, I've never come across someone who had herpes. But if you had it, you would fucking pay.

If I had, yeah, if I had it, I'd pay. But I don't know how prevalent, how many people do we think are infected with herpes right now? Don't they say like one in four? Yeah, but that's some bullshit. That's just a scare college.

I also think that, yeah, that's probably true. I also think, you know, you might have herpes. Oh, you fucking bitch. Lightning on the board first. One nothing. 12 left to go in the first half, first half period.

How many people have herpes? I think if you had herpes on your dick and nobody even knows, like there could be a lot of that going on. If you have it on your face, your mouth, like, you know, it's obvious. Prevalence, very common. More than 3 million U.S. cases per year. Especially, and then they talk about HPV. I feel like every girl under the fucking sun has HPV, apparently.

See, it's weird. Here's a weird list. So it's the ages affected they have. Seniors, 60 plus. Very common. Adults, 41 to 60. But that's such a time game. It's like, I've been fucking for 65 years.

Of course I've got the herpes. Young adults, 19 to 40, very common. Teenagers, 14 to 18, very common. Is anybody not very common? Children, 6 to 13, rare. Because they're not fucking. Toddlers, 3 to 5, very rare. Oh, very rare.

I mean, this makes sense. Baby, 0 to 2, back to rare. So why is it the 3 to 5 years? That's the very rare. Babies, maybe you could pass it on when you like are born yes and then you still have it as a toddler so like why does it come why the down dick in three to five years you're not you're just not kissing you're not kissing you're not touching you're not fucking i guess children six to thirteen they can kiss so okay yeah that makes

more sense as you get older and as you start to have more contact and then when you're you know 70 it's like i've been fucking for 45 years. For 55 years. Of course I've got the herpes. I have one more point, but it's gone now. Oh, I was going to say, you know why I learned something about myself the other day and I was very proud of myself.

I was like, that's a good thing. I have no clue how to spell the word gonorrhea. Every time I try to spell it, I was like, that's a good thing. I have no clue how to spell the word gonorrhea. Every time I try to spell it, I'm like, G-O-N-N-O-H-R-E-A-H-A. I'm like, I'm always just making it up, and I think that if, you know, you're a person who has gonorrhea, you would know how to spell it. I'm going to guess it's a crap shoot for me

every time, and I'm like, that's because I don't have gonorrhea, motherfucker. G-O-N-O- R-R-H-E-A. See, I would have said... Fight says gonorrhea. I would have said G-O-N-N-O R-H-E-A. But I think there was an E in there. Yeah, there's a double R.

I mean, I'm just good at spelling words. Or you got fucking gonorrhea. Can you spell chlamydia? Yes. Yes. C-H-Y or C-H-L? C-H-L-Y. you gotta fucking go can you spell chlamydia uh yes um ch y or ch l ch l y m i d i m i m ch l y a what's the is the y or i after the l is it a y or i ch y l. I had that A. I had the A. And then you got motherfucking STDs, bro. M-I-D-I-A? Didn't you throw a Y in after the L in the beginning?

C-H-Y-L. No, just C-H-L-A-M-Y-D-I-A. C-H-L is wacky. C-H-L is like, that's not even a real word. Next voicemail. KFC sites. Lovers producing. KFC, Sites, Lovers Producing. First time, long time. I was listening to the podcast about penguins and acceptable pets.

I got to aim out of the asshole for you. My girlfriend's twin sister and her wife, they live in a nice house. They're 27 years old. I refuse to go over there now because they have 19 cats. And they're very, very offended if you say anything about the cats. They have cat hair everywhere.

The place smells like a whole deer box. Like I said, it's a nice house, but they just ruin it with cats. Yeah. The smell. If you say anything like, you know, oh, the cat pissed on my hat, which happened to me. Great sucking hat. Destroy it because the cat pissed on it.

They get very defensive and say like, oh, well, they need somewhere to pee. Hold the phone. I thought the one thing that's good about cats is they go in a litter box. I... They just piss in every... I mean, if cats are... Cats definitely piss. Not in the litter box? I think they shit

in litter boxes. I don't know. I guess I don't know. I hope I never have to find out. 19 cats is 18 too many cats. And really, if you want to be serious about it, 19 too many cats. I mean. I think people who get, like, offended that people won't go to their house because of pets. Fuck off.

Like, I don't want to deal with your pets. You're turning. I like my pets. Yeah. And if you don't want to come over because you want to deal with my pets, that's fine. Dude, I had a friend who went over to someone's house the other day. And they have pipples. And when they got in the house, the warning they received was, just so you know, the pipples are going to bite you for about an hour.

But just stand tall to them. That's insane. Can you imagine telling someone that? Like, here, strap in. They give you those things you put on your arms, those big, like, pads. You're just going to need these when you come to my house. For about an hour, a fucking ferocious dog is going to be biting you. I'm like, well, I'm not coming over then.

What are you talking about? I'd rather have a cat piss on my hat than come over. If you turn your house into any sort of zoo chamber or whatever, zoo fucking pit, everybody has the right to say no thank you not interested and that does that does that's you can't be offended by that that's like i mean that's like if you know if you if you had like the wild party house and someone was like i don't want to party i'm not coming over that's totally acceptable right 19 cats is fucking bizarre you have you have the noise and the smell and like how do you even how do you even know once

you get past let's call it five of anything it's like especially cats you know that's steve and that's jessica and that's ricky giving normal human names to cats because i don't even know what you name cats but like oh you know like snufflewuck i guess and stuff like yeah yeah even though that's like you should name these like lucifer you know beelzebub uh but like yeah when you're on oh that's my 17th cat over there and this is the 19th we just got her recently like the fuck is that is some shit i will judge you you can have all the hobbies you want you can you have a room full of toys okay room full of cats not not okay i'd call the police on them dude i live i think i feel like that... I feel like they're breaking the law.

That's true. At the very least, it's pre-crime, and there probably is some sort of violation of, like, animal fucking, you know, permitting or whatever. How much money do you think you spend on food? Feeding fucking 19 cats a day. Even that, and you're feeding them, like, fish and tuna and, like, all the weird things.

You gotta get sauces on milk. All the wet foods and stuff. I mean, the amount of litter boxes and, you know, scooping out clumps of shit. That house, dude, you know, when I,

when I, uh, when I lived in the Bronx and city Island, I lived on, uh, it was called Schofield street. And I don't know why, I don't know how I don't get it.

It's just something we put up with. And now looking back on it in hindsight, it's fucking insanity. My block was like the haven for strike ads. and when i tell you that they were everywhere they were fucking like feral yes just wild ass cats follow-up question what does feral mean i don't know i just know it's not good i think it means wild i think it means like the opposite domesticated okay i thought it made me give me a definition of feral i'm pretty sure you just nailed it it's

just not domesticated i mean so they'll attack you and shit well they wouldn't attack you because they were but you know they're slinky and they're weird and you always see them like under a car you just like their be eyes i can't believe you wouldn't like run over one i mean we probably did pull it out we probably did at times when but you would just at nighttime you would hear like like a melee of cats. And then they would stop. What? Yeah, they would get into fights.

Like Charlie Kelly's house apartment? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I have 10,000 cats because I have 10,000 rats. My last apartment had this. Cats everywhere? A story is like known to have cats fucking everywhere.

T.J. will always tell you the fact that like, that's why there's no rats there. It's like, well, I'd rather not have the cats fucking everywhere. TJ will always tell you the fact that like, that's why there's no rats there. It's like, well, I'd rather not have the cats. Yeah. It's like, I mean,

I get it, but we're just robbing Peter to pay Paul here. I mean, you know, it's, it's one fucking animal. It's a problem or the other. Uh,

I mean, they're just awful, awful animals. But again, seriously, if you, if you have a house, that's,

you know, other, if other overwhelming characteristics of your house people don't like you know if you if you smoke all the time it's like if your house smells like smoke i think you can you should expect people to be like no thank you i couldn't even believe that like he even gave the qualifier that it's a nice house no it's not no no no i'm a 19 cats definitively not a nice house another goal oh you goddamn bitch! Power play goal. Lightning.

I mean, now that I'm thinking about it, my grandma smoked like a fucking chimney and had this house surrounded by feral cats. And we moved in with her. We moved into her smokehouse. Oh, dude, by the way, speaking of smoking, I told you guys to remind me to tell this story. So when I don't have the kids, I just get unbelievably stoned to go to sleep.

Because it's the only thing that will really put me to bed and stop the mind from racing. I get so high. And I am a very stereotypical stoned person. I get the, I giggle like a motherfucker. And I get the munchies like insane. And I mean, I'm going to put on a ton of weight if I keep this up. Because I recently...

Do you have a favorite bread? Favorite type of bread. Yeah, like a favorite brand or type of bread. I can't say that I do. Okay, so I got... I really like potato bread. I know you like that. But I found a new one.

Pepperidge Farm. I think it's called like Stone... Stone Press or something like that. White bread. Hearty white bread. I think it's called like Stone Press or something like that. White bread. Hardy white bread. I found it recently. Caitlin always has it in her apartment. It's like this thick really soft white bread. And I have

been getting high and just crushing bread. Just like eating bread. Just straight. I was going to say raw bread. Raw bread. I am raw dogging slices of white bread at an alarming rate where i i'll be high and i'm going to bed and i'll grab one and then i lay in bed and i'm eating it and i i'm this is how like how much my munchies are i get out of bed to get more food usually once i'm in bed i'll like oh no i do that all the time do you because i like if i

gotta go to the bathroom if i gotta i'll i'm like if i'm in bed i'm in bed so i get up and i go get another slice and i start hammering it and then the other day i just brought the bag of bread to bed with me really and i woke up in the morning and there was just like some crusts on my bedside table. And I was like, you, I got to reel it in here. I am just stoned, hammering white bread and waking up with a bag of it, like an empty bag and bones, like crusts, bread.

I mean, I'm not in a position to fucking, yes, you are. Everyone's in a position to judge me. No, I'm not. I mean,

I eat frozen Sour Patch Kids nonstop. I, I froze them to get myself to stop eating them so fast. That's what I do. You need to be like an anorexic girl. You got to just open the bag and squirt ketchup in them. Yeah, I can't eat them anymore. I give out two bags of Sour Patch Kids, the big ones,

the ones that hang, walking home from work every day. I pop them in the freezer. The ones that hang. Yeah, not just a little bag. Not a fucking big shit. And I put those in the freezer so I can't eat them as fast. Because then you eat the whole thing.

Yeah, because I eat them both every night. So I have two bags of frozen Sour Patch Kids. All right, you're right. You can't judge me. You can't say shit. Dude, I get up. I have like a fucking, like a body that just knows

like time to get up. And like, we need Sour Patch Kids. Like it's It's like 3am, we're not ready to start the day It's just I wake up at 3 o'clock Time to fucking crush Some Sour Patches, you son of a bitch I mean, but it's I get that, at least it's candy People like candy

To just raw dog bread I know for a fact For myself, the only way I'll ever lose weight, the only thing that's ever been successful for me is no carb diet. I am on the strictly, I mean, it's just carb. I'm eating squares of carbs, and I just crush it. It's so good. How many pieces have you eaten? My max is four.

I've had four. Four pieces? Yeah. Oh, that's not bad. I mean, it's a lot. And by the way, I get um you know how i'm always swallowing my spit wrong like i i definitely have some sort of like esophagus problem because i if i eat fast i get that like like i feel like i'm choking i'm gonna die i have to drink water and it's specifically with like dough and bread it just so i'm like like laying in bed like i'm choking i'm dying and then just shoving more

slices of bread in my mouth it is a motherfucking problem i went i was at the store i grabbed a bag of the bread i was like probably gonna need another i was like this one's for my sandwiches and this one's for when i raw dog at night bad last voicemail of the day is brought to you by indochino. If I keep eating bread, I'm going to keep putting on pounds. I'm going to need some new clothes. I'm going to make sure nothing's going to fit me, and I'm going to need to make sure that I get clothes that fit me custom.

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Nick? Do you want virginity or ass eating virginity or or ass eating? Jackie, what do you say? Virginity or ass eating? Do it. Say it. You know you want to say it. You're about to put me on the spot. Do it. Say it. I don't know which way to go on this one. I guess ass eating. I don't know.

That's why she's the KFC radio intern. She knows what's up. Let's go. What do we got, Nick? Hey, so I know it's a pandemic and we're not supposed to be eating ass, but I recently had an experience that, you know what, I was going to tell a story, but I'm not going to get into it. Anyway, I'm just wondering.

I know that's a back thing for guys now um is reciprocity expected there um because i i feel like i was kind of blindsided in the situation and um i don't really know what like common courtesy is there so let me know if that's something that like girls are expected to do because if so i I may just decide to be gay. Well, you're still going to have to do it there too anyway. I would say expected is not the right word. That's the process, no. But it's increasingly like we're getting there.

It's getting way more common, I think. It's certainly when ass eating first blew up, when it got hot in the streets, we were pretty much talking about eating a girl's ass as time goes on and listen it kind of it's all bookends very nicely with the conversation we've been having today if you want like the modern world where everybody's kind of in tune with everything and everybody's treating each other fairly and equally get the manscaped out everyone take care of their business and and yeah you you should reciprocate. I would say it is all but expected of a guy now. Yes. I mean, I think if I hooked up with someone, and if they were like, whoa, what's that?

I'd be like, oh, what are you talking about? That's just part of the package now. But not for a guy. I think of a guy, I will say, if you're in a relationship, I think I a guy, I will say, if you're in a relationship, I think I would expect it. Maybe not right away, but if we're going to be consistently having sex together,

you better get up in there. This changes so much with Jacqueline on the line. I've listened to this for so long. It's a lost cause. And she's young. This is their problem. They're the ones leading the charge. Give me a fucking break.

I would say, uh, I would say right now, if it's like a hookup, there's like, you know, a first time or you're only like hooking up like every now and then. And that happens. I think it would be like a, a welcome, like, Whoa. Okay. All right. We're doing that. Uh, but I don't think it would ever be like, if you, if you finish up finish up the night i don't think a guy would be like this chick didn't even eat my

ass yeah i would i would never in a million years think that right uh so like there's no reason to uh become gay uh calling um there's like i i think that more guys than are willing to admit want it or at least want to try it if they haven't yet or would enjoy it if it happened but i think they understand that we're not at a point yet where it's like expected yeah you know but i think it's coming you think so i mean i'm not saying like you know within a matter of like six months it might might be a little bit longer but i think that uh i think that you know it's becoming it's almost i guess it's kind of like i think that girls do you think that, you know, it's becoming, it's almost, I guess it's kind of like, I think that girls, do you think that, uh, regular oral sex is skewed one way or the other? Or do you think it's like guys and girls equally go down on each other as much?

I would say, I think of like, uh, I think that there was a point in time and I don't know if we're still there anymore where, especially with me when you're younger before younger, before people are having sex, but it's like, I blew him. I just gave a guy head start to finish completion. Whereas a guy wouldn't just be like, I just went down on her, and that was it. So I think there's a time where guys were getting more head than girls. I would say yes. But I don't know if that's the case anymore. Again, I can only speak for myself.

I would say that's not the case anymore. Again, I can only speak for myself. I would say that it's not the case. So I think that ass-eating is probably like blowjobs and going down on a girl were like a long time ago, where it's skewed a little bit more the opposite. Guys are expected to do it more, and girls, if they do do it, is like a nice bonus. Yes, I would

agree with that. And do you think that there were, out of all of the corona restrictions that the government recommended, do you think there there were out of all of the corona restrictions that the government recommended yeah do you think there's one that was less listened to i mean people stopped kissing for sure i bet but like there's no way people stop putting tongues and books like people like i'll wear a mask and gloves and fucking wash my hands for 10 minutes a day which i don't do anymore but uh said that on the radio today. Casey was appalled. I saw that. I hammered that.

No, it was a poll. I was like, fucking, I haven't washed my hands in March. Okay. Yeah. Like there's that one time where like every hour I'd get up and wash my hands.

Yeah. And then I was like, well, I mean, I don't, I hand sanitize and all that shit, but I'm, but it is funny.

Like if I touch my dick, I'm not washing my hands. Right. And it was, there was a time where it was like, I will scrub the skin off my hands. Oh, I had legitimately raw hands. But I will put my tongue flat against your asshole. I'll try to put it in.

No problem. It's crazy. It is a weird thing that we do. It's a weird... I mean, it's weird to like... Tori Crew dropping the gloves. Oh, come get some sorry crew eat some butt i just it's funny that it's like something that uh this is a sloppy fight uh it's

something that like not only do you do but i'm like excited to do it like what is wrong with me that's crazy what's wrong with all of us i don't think it's just a me thing but it's like yeah oh spread it spread them let me get in there they're happy i'm happy but i honestly while i will say i don't think it's expected i think um i think if you really want to you know be great in bed and please please your man you should do it trust me he'll like it he'll enjoy it unless he's, fucking masculine, he's fucking gay! Alright, I'm just gonna tongue in your ass. Calm down, Nancy. Calm down. Calm down, you big

fucking pussy. Let a girl lick your ass. Yeah, you can play with the toys after. We're not saying you gotta get pegged. That's for later. Just let her get a little tongue in the ass. Alright, that's it for today, or that's it for voicemails. Let's ass. All right. That's it for today. That's it for voicemails.

Let's get into our interviews. I mean, Sasha Gray. Perfect. Perfect. And although I will say this, if you're not aware of what Sasha is now and what she does, I think you'll be surprised by this interview. It's not, you know, she's not just a porn star she is she is uh very well read and very uh motivated to like you know change the world and speak on social issues and all that stuff so very interesting uh conversation with a girl you know from porn from entourage you know and

way younger than we expected. Way younger. I mean, the fact that she was really in the game. Whenever, you know, you see something like, she's 18, it's like, probably not. Maybe that's just for the title of the porn or whatever. Sasha was 18 years old. Sasha's my age right now. Right. I would have guessed I was watching Sasha.

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Actually, Sasha sounds very similar to ours. The Gray Zone is just kind of like ask any fucking question you want. We'll talk about anything and everything. And, I mean, that's what we've been doing for the past, like, decades. So, first of all, stay the fuck out of our lane. Good choice. I think it's a good one. People love that kind of shit.

So I think there's something about someone like you, too. Like, you're going to let it fly. You're going to give the real truth and the real answer. So I think it should be very interesting. Definitely. I'm excited. It's also just culturally a different time. I feel like sometimes I'm a broken record, you know?

But now our culture and probably social media has a lot to do with that is starting to open their minds and be more receptive to other people. So in other points of view, even though we're living in a divisive time. When you say you're a broken record, what do you mean? I just I feel like I have my entire career sort of talked about the same things, right? So even when I'm not talking about empowerment, somehow I'm talking about empowerment one way or another. But it's also a very important thing for me. I, however, I feel, especially as a woman and especially somebody that got, got into the adult industry at such a young age. If I wasn't fighting ageism, I was fighting sexism or preconceived notions. And for me, it was always about remaining an independent, strong, outspoken individual, regardless of stereotypes that might be thrown upon me.

And it's an exciting time i just hope that we stick with it as a culture for sure so yeah i hear you we just left up you i you are younger than i thought you've been in the game a lot yeah you've been doing it for a long time which is i mean it's it's it's it just makes it that much more interesting to know that like from such a young age you kind of were talking about it and being about it um and yeah you're right i mean the world is just kind of like listening now for the first time are you fine are you like finally motherfuckers i've been talking about this forever yes and then there's a part of me that i sometimes i get a little bit down just because i

hope that it's not all marketing right still people especially since the pandemic began and in the wake of george floyd's killing um we've seen a lot of performative actions, right? And sometimes I get worried that the important messages will get lost. And especially when it comes to talking to young people who often, so often need guidance, like I hope that these things don't get lost in the imagery and hype of social media at all. That's really important to me.

So that's what's exciting about the show being live. I feel like there's really, we don't have to follow a format. I mean, we do, you know, it's still a TV show. So we have segments and we have fun games that we get to play and we have special guests, but with this, the audience is there, they're watching and they're leaving comments. And I think in the beginning it'll be a little bit tricky just kind of getting used to that open format but once we find our groove i really hope that we can use that to our advantage because um sometimes i think i

can relate when i was a kid you know seeing things in pop culture but also feeling like oh i'll never be a part of that or that's just not who i am. And maybe I would have liked to ask more questions of people or things that I saw. So it really gives the audience the opportunity to do that when we can. Are you worried about giving like bad advice? We have. What if you don't give, there was one question that was, should I try transgender dating apps? That's a lot of responsibility on you there. I'm Sasha.

Like, I don't know, bro. Should you, that's up lot of responsibility on you there i'm such a question like i don't know bro should you that's up to you man right i think that's what's that's what's going to be so important about having like dem as a co-host is he's a really funny dude so we'll be able to play off of each other in that way um yeah for sure i didn't really i didn't really even though I was always outspoken about what I did and who I am like I I grew up in the spotlight right yeah you know what I mean so I became a woman in the spot whatever that spotlight was but you know I learned in front of the public and I didn't really realize until I did like my first book tour the responsibility that I had to my fans and to the people that looked up to me and it really hit me and sat with me so yeah of course it can be

worrisome especially you know we I feel like we live in such an ADHD world especially with social media now we all have devices we have we have so many distractions and even my own live streams i'll say something and not 30 seconds later in the chat somebody will say oh yeah she just said she's gonna do this and i don't know that's actually not even close to what i was saying so yeah of course it's not so much about worried about giving bad advice it's will somebody interpret it the wrong way oh so it's not your fault you're good you know i'm golden i got hello here like do you do you think you have like let's say the person who asked that question because that question stuck out stuck out to me when i

watched the teaser do you think that person is like gonna go like get on transgender dating apps now because you said yes possible the more crazy is that i mean yeah i cannot if i can just weigh in on that question i think a person who asked that question is looking for a yes i just want to be yeah yeah it's okay you're maybe you're uncomfortable maybe there's a stigma maybe you're not comfortable with yourself yet go do it and they're gonna be going to be like, okay, fuck you. That's what I was looking for. Yeah. And I, and again, when I go back to saying like, it feels like we're finally opening up as a culture,

like these are conversations that I don't think in mass, we were having even five years ago. Like I had done, I'll tell you, I even had interviews that I was supposed to do, like long format things where people try to change my voice, you know, and they wanted me to write a different piece. And so I would leave and I would say no, or they want to frame you a certain way. And so I feel like it's really time for the underrepresented to be able to have a voice. And that would have been so important to somebody like me as a teenager right and as a young as a young adult too or do you think you are still um have you written enough

books done enough acting and done enough outside of porn that like you are people still surprised when you are pretty well spoken pretty articulate pretty like into these issues and on, you know, do you think that you've broken out of that mold and that stereotype enough, which like, you know, we we've done a show, we did our show with Asa Akira for a while. And like, I learned so much more about that industry and what, what's, you know, what's wrong with the stereotypes and the problems with them. And like, but I feel like most people really haven't. So are you, do you feel that you're still like surprising people when you write a book or give a speech or talk to people or whatever yeah it depends and like I said even five years ago we probably couldn't have had some of these conversations and when I said sometimes I worry

that like it'll be these topics are performative for some people that also comes from just a such a personal place of like have done these things and then even in my own country it's hard to get certain people to pay attention to them and then I leave and I go around the world and these thoughts and ideas are embraced right so especially for, I'm like super excited about this, but yeah, it's, I feel like it's a case by case basis. I feel more so here than when I go international, like travel international. Really? Yeah. Man, I keep hearing more and more shit like that about this country from like all different walks of life. And it's like, boy, we suck.

We're doing a lot of shit wrong right now. I want to change that. I want to change that. I want to change that. I've always wanted to change that. It's an important message, you know, because especially for kids, you. We live in, you know, when you're young, you live inside of your head so much. And there's so often not that you don't have a figure to bounce these ideas off of. And if you try to, you're usually shamed.

Right. And there's different statistics to that. Like we'll go over on in the show where it's 2020 and we're still here. We're still in the same, we're still in the same place, but I hope we can change that. Even if just a little bit. You've mentioned a few times that like, it would have been nice for a younger you to have like that voice to hear. Do you like regret or anything like that?

Are you like, Oh, I'm like, I would have done things differently or. No, I think just more so when I was a teenager, like before the adult industry, because I had my own ideas and my own fantasies and not just sexual either right but being allowed and being told that it's okay to be different like I didn't have that until maybe I started reading different books or listening to different music and that's oh wow okay these people are they're validating these feelings for me right so even if it was being exposed to certain musicians at a younger age I think that would have helped me

for sure we you might have just answered it but we have a question uh in another video series of ours if you could go back in time and tell what what age is it john you're like 18 year old self 15 year old self what is it you can go can go back to any time, any age, go back any age you want and you can only tell yourself 10 words. What age would you go back to? And what like sentence would you tell yourself? Oh, Oh, that's so hard. It's very hard. It's a really difficult. But I mean, but the reason I ask is because you just said like, don't be different with that.

Would that have just been the simple message you would tell yourself? Like, fuck it. Just do also, by the way, it sounds like you were not really that afraid to be different. It sounds, I mean, you're pretty different. You took a pretty unorthodox path. Like, yeah. You know what I mean? Like it doesn't sound like you really cowered away from, you know, any experience or any job. It sounds like you said, fuck it. I'm going to go do what most people consider the craziest job in the world. So were you afraid to be different? I would argue not at all.

Like when I was 18 during that period? Absolutely not. But let's say like, you know, like 11 to 13 and then 13 to 16. Those are such drastic differences in age, even though it's a very short time span. I feel like my I could if I could tell my 15 year old self, you'll find you'll find your people. You know, that that is a pretty comforting thought that like eventually you'll fall into the right crew yeah that that feeling i'm not you know that one day you will not be in your head and feeling so isolated that would be it so you don't feel that anymore oh for sure when does that stop yeah before it was like than two drinks, Sasha. When does that stop? Yeah. Before it was like, oh, I'm, let's say, even within my own circle of close friends, I was still always the odd one out.

I was still always, oh, Jesus, you're weird. You're weird. Now it's more so just not so much like the stereotypes that people throw at me, but rather being a person in the public eye and how that affects your relationships, like friendships even, you know, and sometimes it can be hard just to trust people and their motivations. So it's a different, a different sentiment. It's a different reasoning. Do you think that this mentality you have in this approach that you have is a big reason why you were so successful in the adult industry? 100%. Yeah. I mean, obviously you're pretty, obviously, you know, people want to watch, but like, what was it about you that, you know, you were like top of the game for a reason?

Why do you think that was? I was young. I was 18. White and outspoken. I was young. I was 18. White. And outspoken. You know, and I wasn't afraid to try anything. Yeah, I think that's what a lot of people like watching.

It's not just like, I never played a passive role, you can say. Not that I saw. Would you put yourself up on like so when Asa was on our show we asked her like all time where does she think she ranks and I don't think Asa

put herself in like the top 50 it was like a crazy number she's crazy Asa you've been doing this for like 20 years and you still I mean shut up you're like top three and she didn't think so at all where would you put your stuff i that is hard though i have to say that's not i'm not good at ranking systems i really hate ranking systems i don't know

okay would you say you're on the mount rushmore top top four or five yes or no take down all statues i i don't know like top 10 top 10 is pretty yeah yeah we'll answer for you yeah yeah top 10 uh do you i would imagine uh you know most people will know you from uh adult industry, but do you get a lot of entourage nuts? Because we have a lot of people at work who are entourage fans who like still to this day, watch it every night, can recite every line and will probably know everything about you just because you're on that show. Is that almost equal with like the porn fans? Insane, an insane amount. I have people when I'm streaming on Twitch Insane, an insane amount. Right. I have people when I'm streaming on Twitch

every day, every single day. What? Oh, that's where I remember you from. You ruined Vince's life with drugs. You know,

it's not real, right? Right. You know, they don't. Entourage fans are like wrestling fans. They think that shit's real.

They think that Vince is real. there are some um yeah it comes up so often one of my moderators is like we need to make a command for this because it gets old like repeating the same thing every time so yeah get it a lot even today that was the your scene in that, or not your, your many scenes, but the pool scene where you have Bush out, I think that is one of the more iconic scenes. And I think that led to a Bush revolution, Sasha. It did. It really did.

I mean, I remember seeing that and being like, that's different. That's not what girls are doing right now. That's important. I mean, I feel like I wasn't the only one in the industry at that time, but I think it took it outside of the industry. Right. And I just remember people going crazy. And when I was doing press at the time, like it just kept coming up. I'm like, how are you? Why are you so shocked? I know you watch porn. You're seeing it. Yeah.

Are you, um, are you, are you involved in the adult industry at all anymore do you do like fan events or I mean obviously not shooting or anything right but do you still do appearances or those uh like conventions or anything like that no not really no um and I started DJing around like 2010 So I was like hosting parties at clubs before that, which is kind of just like a segue out of that convention type circuit. And then, but I was writing a lot about music and life and making music. And then I was like, I want to DJ.

I don't want to, I think actually somebody came to me first, like, would you? And I was like, huh, would I? Yeah, it's better than just hosting in a club, like taking pictures. Like, let me bring the party. And then I felt like that kind of took over because then I can still do, like, meet and greets before or after the shows anyways. Is it something that you, like, don't want to associate with though like did you get did you purposely try to distance yourself from that industry or is it just that you naturally kind of

moved on I think it was natural a natural timing um especially actually I didn't even I didn't even make like a quote-unquote retirement announcement until two years after I'd already left the industry and I feel like I was probably still kind of probably went to like one more award show or something like that um and then I came out with the book and then during that during that press tour somebody had actually brought it up and I was like you know actually I'm not even in the business anymore um so it just happened sort of naturally because I had all of these things going on. If you got an invitation now to an award show, a convention, uh, some sort of event, would you go, or is it something you're trying to stay away from? I don't think so just because I don't, I usually, when you're

going to those things, it's about like promoting a movie you're in, right. Or promoting a website or you're working for a company. So I don't really understand what my purpose would be there, but let me, I'm hyperventilating. You, Asa, a couple other like major Titans of the game are going to do a video

together and just talk about like the industry. Would you do that? Find value in that? Or are you just like, yeah, because look for me, it's even though I'm out of the industry, it's still important for me to carry on

and grow, and I have grown with my fans, right? So continue that elevation of being sex positive. And so it's just finding another way to do that. And that's another reason i'm so excited about the show because we can still have these conversations that are incredibly important they're still valid today but it's just doing it in a different way so i think it's all about like who is it for and as long as i'm involved somehow creatively, right? Not just playing a passive role. Is there any part of you that feels like, I get not, not regret, but like you're jealous of like the only fans revolution.

Yeah. You came up with the wrong time, girl. I put out a whole book of selfies, like our books don't make money. I put out a whole book of selfies. Like, before selfies were a thing. Art books don't make money. By the way, you could still do it. It's not like it's not on the table anymore. I don't know if it would hit the same way. Are you kidding me?

The comeback? The comeback tour would hit. It wouldn't hit the same. It would hit bigger and better. But you know who does it? This girl, I'm probably going to butcher her name. she's like an e-girl bell delphine yeah and she signed up she does like cosplay and stuff and she signed up for an only fans just to be a major troll and i was like if i did it i joke with my like my close twitch community we're always joking

like yeah i'm gonna sign up for only fans it's going to be pictures of my dirty dishes and my elbow and the back of my knee. I guarantee you people will go for it. Listen, Sasha Gray's dirty dishes would, I'm sure they would, I promise you, it's a weird world.

Yep. I know your show is The Gray Area on Venn TV. Where can people find that tell them how to tell them how to get there so vent tv is a new network in the digital streaming era right so you can find it twitch youtube twitter it'll be like the first network live streamed on twitter officially youtube if i didn't say YouTube already. And then it will also be on different smart TVs and devices as well.

And we will be Wednesdays and Fridays. Our first show is August 7th, this Friday. And then the following week will be every Wednesday and every Friday at 7pm Pacific. Awesome. Thank you so much. We look forward to it. And thanks. Thank you very much. Look forward to it. And, uh, thanks.

Thank you very much. Guys. I've got some issues that nobody can see. And all of these emotions are pouring out of me. I bring them to the light. Outro Music Uh-huh. Yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah.

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