KFC Radio - Shane Gillis & Other Top Comics Got Snubbed By Grammy Nominations ft. Harold Perrineau

Episode Date: November 12, 2024

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Starting point is 00:03:24 Radio on the Barstool Sports Network. It's like an episode of Suits, baby. We are in Suits. Men in Suits. I did not factor the color of the couch into my suit choice. It doesn't look great. It does. All right, if you're watching this.
Starting point is 00:03:37 Jack, I'm just tearing you down, bro. If you're watching this, imagine I'm on a green couch. Then you'd be great. Yeah, Jackie, can you actually just Photoshop this whole couch to be green for the entire? Green screen the couch. Then you'd be great. Yeah, Jackie, can you actually just Photoshop this whole couch to be green for the entire green screen of the couch? This is like a 10-year-old idea finally coming to fruition. John, when we first got
Starting point is 00:03:53 an office, was like, I'm going to wear a suit once a week, minimum. I'm going to be dressing. You guys, we're used to working from home. Everybody in the beginning of Barstool, everybody worked from home. And then you guys, even once you had the Milton office, we're used to working from home. Everybody in the beginning of Barstool, everybody worked from home. And then you guys, even once you had the Milton office, it was basically still working from home. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Wear whatever you want. Half the time I didn't even have pants on, let alone dress up. And then the idea was, okay, once we got an office, we got a place to go, John's going to show off the fits. And did you even do it once? I never did it. Not even once. Not even once. It was basically part of a joke I had where I was just like, you guys are all, not you guys.
Starting point is 00:04:33 The rest of the world is lucky I have a career where I don't wear suits because I can wear a suit. There is something about everybody, though. Like, it's a very, I don't know if it's a placebo effect or if there's something literal to it, but everybody is a schlub, and then they put on a suit, and they bump up at least a couple points. Well, it gives you your masculine shape. It gives you the V. Because of the shoulders. The shoulders, and then when you button, it brings brings you in so you look broader and stronger and more manly in a suit well if you're wearing an express suit it's top notch these are the modern tech suits that are from express which are not only affordable and machine washable
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Starting point is 00:07:06 You look very nice. Yeah? Yeah, you do. Thank you. I mean, it's more of a rarity. Like you said, people know when Feidelberg puts on a suit. We see it often. You pull it off.
Starting point is 00:07:18 I don't think we see it that often. You have a lot of events. I feel like we do. You're always going to something charity events and fucking i don't know to me it's like am i in quarter did someone die yeah that's always my this is my shit you know um you're like broadway with your aunt or yeah yeah but but what's so i don't know what's's better is you kind of have the reputation and people can like almost like close their eyes and picture it, see you in a suit, see you looking sharp, know that that's like your thing. Great reputation to have. I lack that.
Starting point is 00:07:57 But what I do have is when I put on a suit, people are like floored. It's like Superman popped into the telephone box. It's like you so rarely see this that when I am in a suit, people are like, oh, my God, you clean up. So, you know, I got like a card to play, whereas you're just like your cards are always on the table. Yeah. Two different sides. Either way, though, when you put on a suit, something happens where like maybe it's that thing. Maybe it's just that you know it's fancy. You know you're looking good, but the confidence goes up.
Starting point is 00:08:31 It's very nice to be wearing a suit. Barstool Sports is not the place to put a suit on. I was trying to get ready in the bathroom, and it was the most disgusting experience of my life. It was – Explain exactly what you said. If you don't know the Barstool bathroom, there's one urinal, and then there are two stalls on either side of the urinal.
Starting point is 00:08:48 With no room. It's like your shoulders touch the walls of the stalls. Yeah, yeah. If you're at the urinal. And so it's wall, toilet, urinal, toilet, wall. It's all crammed together. And I peed first before the show. And then I was fixing my tie and all that
Starting point is 00:09:06 stuff and there were two people in the stalls just it was like they ate farts for breakfast it was just dueling pianos just and i like like honestly god longer than i've ever stayed in the bathroom for something like that i was trying to get it together because i had my i had to fix my collar and my tie and all that stuff. And eventually I just had to walk out. It was insane. It was a nightmare.
Starting point is 00:09:30 Also, I mean, at that point it was like 11 a.m. People get to work around like 10 here. It's like, you just got to work. You need to shit already. Just fucking shit at home before you come here, you people. Yeah, I don't think this job kind of applies to the shit on company time. Yeah. You can tailor your shitting to make sure you do it at home.
Starting point is 00:09:50 I guess it's the weird coffee freaks who come in, drink your coffee, and you immediately have to shit. Isn't that so weird that the most popular drink in the world makes you immediately shit? And like 90% of the world just like, yeah, we do that. That's what we do. We drink coffee and shit immediately. I am so happy that is one of the addictions, because it's an addiction I've never had. Yep. Where it was just like, I noticed it particularly when we're on the road, when we stay in a
Starting point is 00:10:16 hotel and you walk downstairs in the morning and there's a cafe in the hotel. It's a good line for 45 minutes. Yep. For people waiting to get their coffee. If I had to stay in this line before I started to feel good or like feel like me or whatever they say about coffee i would murder someone in that line and like even when when you are on the road and you see people like their everyday uh schedule it's like you need another one already yeah i gotta stop and get a coffee like we just fucking did it's it is yeah steer clear of that one. Unless you want to sponsor us.
Starting point is 00:10:45 In which case. Stella Blue Coffee. Go get it. I think I had one of the best weekends of my entire life. Oh, good. Because I did something Thursday. Good or bad? Unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:11:00 I genuinely think it'll be the coolest thing I ever do in my career. You go first. Wait, is this work related? No. I genuinely think it'll be the coolest thing I ever do in my career. You go first. Wait, is this work related? No. But like... Well, our world is just... Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:11 So Wednesday night, I get a text from my buddy Scotty. Scotty owns Factory 380. Oh, right. I had called you in the middle of this, but I never got the scoop. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm so happy. So I was going to tell you, and then you had to run. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:24 And I was like, all right, thank God, because I didn't want to tell him but like i wanted to tell him kind of deal dude so he texts me wednesday night and he's like johnser johnser we're doing a commercial down to factory love you to come down and i was like i'm there i'll cancel my plans i'll be there so i had to cancel the movie i was gonna go see in the middle of the day still haven't seen an aura um and we go and they're filming a commercial and i i thought like it was just gonna be like full bar you kind of wave at the camera as like scotty goes around and um it ends up being i brought passing on with me i happen to be with them and so it's the three of us and it's all done like entourage style we pull up in a yellow cab and the doors open and it like follows us into the bar and it like shows the bar off and all that stuff and why i think it's so
Starting point is 00:12:18 cool is because the commercial is not for tv the commercial is not for TV. The commercial is not for the internet. The commercial is for in-flight TVs on Aer Lingus for the next year. I was just dying to the thought. It was like some stoolie going on vacation to Ireland. You're like, is that fucking Feidelberg? And it's just for the bar? Come to Factory 380? I think it's, like, some, like, outreach program Aer Lingus is doing with Irish-owned establishments in New York City. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:51 With, like, showing off. And I think they had, like, I think they picked, like, four bars. Two of them are Scotties, I believe. And I don't know where it's going to play on it. I don't know where it happens. Yeah. But it's a commercial for the in-flight TVs on Aer Lingus. And I was like,
Starting point is 00:13:07 fuck yes, dude! That is so cool! It's like, I made it, man! Oh, you got a role in a movie? Nah, no, no, it's a commercial. Oh, on television? Nope, nope. Is it on the internet? Nope, nope. Not there either. That might be the lowest
Starting point is 00:13:23 and last form of screen. I guess I would put that above taxi cab screen. I would put it above it, yes. Airplane, a little more classy than that. You're getting the cab, you're getting more exposure. It's a quantity thing. But we'll put Aer Lingus more exposure it's a it's a more it's a quantity thing yeah yeah but but we'll put air link screen above it but that's go to factors great it's a truly great bar uh it's probably it's not probably it is my favorite bar in the city but it was also
Starting point is 00:13:56 such a cool commercial like scotty it was funny watch doing it with me pavs and owen because we were watching scotty like direct the whole thing right Owen's like, we have to let him direct an auto-order, because he's in it. But it was just a cool commercial. But I was like, that's so awesome that this is just going to be playing on Aer Lingus fights. Did you just wear dress casual? Yeah, I just wore whatever I was wearing Thursday. They weren't doing no hair and makeup for the Aer lingus no no no no i mean jackie actually jackie was gonna come and she
Starting point is 00:14:29 you were doing something um and she's like but text me if it's like a big production and it was not it's like it was one cameraman um but it was it's fucking so sick i don't know why i think it's so sick i'm like Aer Lingus commercial is so fucking awesome. Well, I can promise you this. Any stoolie that does go to Ireland within the next year, you will get a post, a picture, a screen. People will take a picture of that and tag you in it every single goddamn time. I did a little hair and makeup the other day. I had my eyebrows drawn on. Really?
Starting point is 00:15:00 Yeah, I had to do head shots for a product that I'm working on. So they needed high-res photos of me. So I was getting all dolled up, and I was like, might as well get some eyebrows. And I can't tell. I think at this point I'm so used to not having eyebrows that I think eyebrows now look weird on me. Is it a permanent thing?
Starting point is 00:15:28 No, no, no. It's almost like mascara. What was that called? Like an eyebrow. Eyebrow, whatever. But it's gone right now. Yeah, yeah. These are my regulars.
Starting point is 00:15:36 But I did like a One Minute Man video first. And I'm interested to see, like, do i look weird to you there or normal i think you look good you look i i would say i would say normal to good that looks that looks weird to me that i have those eyebrows are like very no i'm actually dropping the normal you look you look good but like okay this one's a different this is bad lighting so i just look ugly in general but like my eyebrows oh that looks ridiculous yeah that was crazy that's like what what and then this because this would be like let me get another like this would be my regular like there's just like that looks normal to me but most people go where the fuck are your eyebrows comparatively three is the most normal one is the best two is the worst yeah but but but the the picture
Starting point is 00:16:33 was the same as the video yeah yeah you know what i mean so like like and here here's like one of the headshots that i took like so i see that one looks weird I think I don't know does that look normal or weird that looks crazy that looks like uh um Uncle Leo when Uncle Leo gets his eyebrows off but
Starting point is 00:16:58 but they're not like but that's his eyebrows from afar it looks like, it looks very cartoonish. But... So what do I do? Just go with no eyebrows. It's one of those things where you'll get used to it once you start seeing it a few times.
Starting point is 00:17:18 So that's my point. Does it look weird on me, or does it just look weird? I think it just looks weird because you look different. Yeah. Are you asking me you start doing this well i'm not gonna do it every day but like if i need to i mean every time i'm every time i put a video everyone's like where you have no eyebrows so when it's something like it's like i'm working with a different company and they want like headshots i'm like you know it's my video, I don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:17:45 But it's like, I don't know. If they're going to make a poster of me to promote something, and it's just an eyebrowless freak, I don't want that. But I also don't want to look like Uncle Leo. I just want to have fucking eyebrows, man. What is this company? It's a liquor company. So they asked for some headshots for promotional purposes. And I was like, I mean, the difference between...
Starting point is 00:18:10 Wait. That is very jarring. That one, I think, is also just bad, weird lighting. But it's... Getting old, man. Have you guys seen theok trend of girls asking guys like words the girls would know no i feel like you guys would know all of these okay i was gonna say let's do it okay because we've done those things before here where it's a product like
Starting point is 00:18:36 what is this yeah yeah and i usually get those i think that fucking uncultured swine misogynistic swine out there okay always oh they always guess it's like a sex toy. Every time. Everything is a sex toy. Waterline. Yes, I know this. Do you? Yeah, it's your mascara.
Starting point is 00:18:57 Eyeliner? Where you put your eyeliner up. Nice. Yeah. Money piece. Money pieces. No, I don't know that one. You don't know that one?
Starting point is 00:19:03 Money piece? What do you think? Take a guess. Money piece. Money pieces. Money pieces. No, I don't know that one. You don't know that one? Money piece? What do you think? Take a guess. Money piece. Money pieces. I would guess the part of your outfit that pops. Apparently that's wrong.
Starting point is 00:19:15 I would guess it's a makeup. I don't know. Maybe something like a little glitter sparkle. Like little money pieces. It's like the hairs around your face that brighten your face. People will brighten it because the money pieces are the ones around your face. Oh, like a money shot. Is that what they call baby hairs?
Starting point is 00:19:32 I hate that phrase. No, but baby hairs are like the baby hairs. Flyways? Yeah, technically. There's like the bad version of that, right? Slut strands, yeah. Slut strands. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:41 I like that one better. Yo, that is... Well, that's not money. Like, money pieces are, like, more like the chunk. You keep, like, vaguely, referentially, do you have money pieces? Like, I haven't got my hair cut. Like, that one chunk that's hanging down right now is your money piece? Like, these would be the money pieces.
Starting point is 00:19:57 Yeah. Like, the ones around my face. Oh, I see. It's just, like, the most important part of your hair. And then slut strands is, like, if I put my hair in a ponytail and they pull down strands. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, to me, like, that was like all the Puerto Rican girls I ever loved.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Had, like, the slicked back down hair in a ponytail or a bun, and then two, like, distinct, you know, like, hoop earrings, Reebok classic high tops. Oh, my God. Okay, you guys are
Starting point is 00:20:24 going to know this one. French tips. Nails. My favorite, by the way. I was doing blind ranking nail filters. You know those things where you have, like, one to ten? Yeah. And you have to order them? Yes.
Starting point is 00:20:36 So I was doing that with Shay. And I was, like, I was treating it very seriously. I was, like, we got to decide you got you gotta know what kind of nails what kind of girl you are here you know what i mean like if i don't want you to walk around these big long gaudy obnoxious nails you know so she was blind ranking them and like when just like a nice clean french tip nail popped up i was like waiting for her answer you know she put it very high so i was like happy about that like it was like a clean you know what i mean yeah yeah yeah right technically in the last
Starting point is 00:21:11 four years i would say like three years they've been like like trashy but it's coming back around i i personally have not understood like the chat like i feel I feel like it's good, but not, I feel like I just called straight trash. Well, no, if you saw the other nails, I mean these, you know, they're like,
Starting point is 00:21:30 okay, then, then yeah, just like, these are just like regular. They actually was one that was, I, I,
Starting point is 00:21:35 I think just like a nice, uh, there was like a regular, like red, like a big red nail, which I think is always like a classic look, but almost like a nude, would you call it?
Starting point is 00:21:44 Just like regular, your nails just look nice, but they're not even like, people love like the, look. Yeah, yeah. But almost like a nude, would you call it? Just like regular. Your nails just look nice, but they're not even like. People love just like the, it's almost like a white marble. I don't know how else to describe it. Like that. It was like she was picking some shit at one point. I was like, no, no, no. We didn't do that.
Starting point is 00:21:57 We did a whole bunch. We did Taylor Swift songs. We did female artists. We did Christmas movies. We had all these things and I was like, this is important shit. We're going to decide right now in here what kind of woman you're going to be. That's so funny. I never
Starting point is 00:22:12 thought about that with kids. You do what's currently popular, but I never thought of it as you do TikTok trends. It makes perfect sense. I liked playing sports, but if you like what it was you know i liked playing sports but if you like consuming content you would do well it was the first time i've ever done it and i think i regret it because right away she was like so like can i get tiktok and i was like for
Starting point is 00:22:35 sure not like listen uh you come around my kids come around daddy's house there's basically no rules it's like anything goes one thing i am like going to be an extreme dad on is like i was like you're not touched at least i say this now yeah we know i'll fold but my plan is like you ain't touching social media till you're like 27 because i just think it is the worst fucking possible i struggle to handle it as a 40 year old man right as a a 10 year old girl or something like i can't even imagine how hard it is with did you get likes and did you get shares and you know mean comments and all that shit so i was like they also just end up being like badass bitches what's that i said everybody might just end up kind of being like yeah i'm like listen can uh can we like are
Starting point is 00:23:23 you gonna be like alex earl and be rich then we'll get to a fucking page right now but otherwise anyway back to the terms um sizes of tampons tampon sizes uh it's about your flow yeah heavy like sorry what name the sizes a heavy light well i feel like that's more like pads i don't think they would call it tampon heavy would they fat pussy yeah be like tight and slut i can't i can't tell you sizes like so immature discussion if you showed me vaginas i could go that one goes with that one i think it probably is i would say like light medium heavy okay light regular and then super super oh i actually knew that i just thought i thought you meant by sizes i thought you meant something else because it's it's less it's more like about like you the first day of your period you have the light yeah right but you know what they should do just so maybe you guys can take a walk in our shoes for for
Starting point is 00:24:20 once is they should put a number on it be, you need a fucking five centimeter tampon or something. Whoa. I'm over here with, I got like a two centimeter tampon. I'll tell them. What does purple shampoo do? It keeps your hair blonde. Nice. And then Brazilian blowout.
Starting point is 00:24:43 That's where they blow on your asshole. I can't say I know that one. I think it's just like a style of getting your hair blown. It's like it presses your hair to a certain straight, basically. It's like a, what's it called? Whatever. I know a Brazilian and I know a blowout. I don't know a Brazilian blowout.
Starting point is 00:25:03 Yeah. Well, so separate. What do you think would be terms for guys to girls? Do they have a list of that? Also, there's one. Okay, wait. There's also a list of words that girls know that guys don't know and then guys know that girls don't know.
Starting point is 00:25:18 Wait. I guess we should give you the list of guys terms, right? What the fuck is that? Do you guys know peplum? No. I don't know any of these words. i know doula doula is like a midwife basically that like yeah helps you a peplum you don't i have no idea what any of these words are known better by males no this one's but this one's the female one because ruch do you guys know you guys know what ruching is ruch i feel like
Starting point is 00:25:43 he's like a is that like a makeup thing? Like blush, like a red? No, it's like on fabric, like when it's all cinched up. Oh. It's like ruching. No. Peplum's like a top that goes like, at the bottom it like flows out. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:57 Yeah, I wouldn't know that one. No way. Wait, give me the rest of the list. Can you make that larger? Peplum. I don't know the second one. Peplum, Buckel, Ruch, Pessary, Dula, Chignot. I don't even think these are female.
Starting point is 00:26:18 These are not even English. These are just like vocabulary. No, but these are fucking weird words, dude. These are words like I've never seen before. Like I can look at words and I'd be like, I know that word, but I don't know the definition. I've never seen these words. Okay. Words for men.
Starting point is 00:26:34 Okay. Let's see. You look away. Can you make it a little bit bigger? Yeah. All right. Well, right off the rip though, I would not howitzer. I would not refer to a howitzer in terms of an instrument.
Starting point is 00:26:48 No. Howitzer's a tank. Yeah, howitzer's a tank. Like artillery, right? I would call it like you got a heavy shot. That word, I've never seen that word before. Wait, you've never seen howitzer before? No. Oh, wow, okay.
Starting point is 00:26:59 This will be good. Like hockey is like a slapshot. Oh, okay, it's a hockey thing. I mean, I think of it as like, well, first of all, in in this world it's a dick yeah yeah besides your dick but like a howitzer actually i don't even know what i would have thought of pre-barcelona i can't even like that that to me now that just means dick it was it was in like the nhl games oh he's got a how he unleashes a howitzer i thought howitzer was like a maybe i'm mixing up with panzer i thought howitzer was like a tank it is but like it's a shot okay but was like a tank. It is, but it's like a shot.
Starting point is 00:27:27 What kind of instrument is it? I don't know that one. That seems weird to me. Thermistor? Preparation for lobster? No. Azimuth? No.
Starting point is 00:27:39 I feel like that was a different list that I saw. I feel like we're getting pranked. These aren't words. Plezo electricity. Electricity in Italy. I don't think so. 24 words that are known mostly to men. Let's see. Here were the words that men were mostly recognized over women.
Starting point is 00:27:59 Kodak. C-O-D-E-C. Nope. Solenoid. Nope. Golem. Golem. Golem. I know what a golem is, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:07 What's that? It's a Jewish thing. I don't really know what it is, but I know it's bad, and I know it's a Jewish thing. Mok. Golem is like a bad sign thing. Mok. Like Mok 5? That's what I'm thinking, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:20 Humvee. Yeah. Do you know these, Jack? No. I'm trying to. No. None of these. You can sound kind of. I said Mok 3. Do you know these, Jack? No. I'm trying to... No. None of these. Do you know Mach?
Starting point is 00:28:26 No. I said Mach 3. Do you know what that means? No. That sounds kind of familiar, but like... That's funny, too, because I bet, you know, at one point, it was all just about planes, and then I think most people might think of razors now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:39 Mach 3. Humvee. Do you know what a Humvee is? Something with, like, a is? Something with like a car It's like a military type SUV Claymore Bomb I think it's a sword
Starting point is 00:28:52 Claymore? Yeah Claymore's a landmine Yeah? Okay Scimitar That's definitely a sword That one I don't know
Starting point is 00:29:00 Scimitar I think is a sword Kevlar No It's like Bulletproof material yeah heavy duty material paladin nah natalie portman in star wars i was gonna say yeah uh bolshevism no i know what both the bolsheviks well i think it's probably like bolsheviks like like a russian uh communist type, right? Bolsheviks.
Starting point is 00:29:27 Biped? I don't know how to say that. B-I-P-E-D. Biped is a mammal or an animal on two feet. Wow. Dreadnought. I don't know that one. And then here are the words that women are likely to know over men.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Tafeta. No. Tresses. No. Bottlebrush. No. Flouncy. Yeah. Tresses. No. Bottle brush. No. Flouncy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:49 Mascarpone. Yeah, mascarpone. That's a dessert, right? Yeah. Yeah, you got it there. Decoupage. Decoupage. No. Progesterone.
Starting point is 00:29:58 That's like a hormone, right? Yeah. I know that one. Wisteria. Shout out to Wisteria Lane and desperate housewives i know that one yeah i was gonna say i feel like i've but that's probably not what they're talking about top it's a color yes yeah makeup i feel like that's taupe taupe taupe peony that's a flower yeah and bodice that's like the that's part of your dress right the bodice yep
Starting point is 00:30:23 fucking smoked i'm probably not i think i knew more the girl words than the guy words i yeah that's why i was like i know that like the the waterline stuff i was like i know that you guys would know i'm gonna um i'm gonna you know you know when you know when you in our blogger careers there's always you have those moments where you go out on a limb and you talk about something that you don't know whether other people are going to relate to it or not. Okay. I'm going to do one of those. Jackie, you have to earmuff it.
Starting point is 00:30:51 Have you ever been in, you get in the shower, you're cold and you get in the shower and so your balls are really tight, right? And then have you ever pulled, like pulled them down and had an extreme amount of pain? No. Okay. I was like, I don't know if other people have done this. Like imagine. Like bat winged it?
Starting point is 00:31:13 Yeah. Dude, so freezing cold, you're in the shower, you bat wing it. It hurts so much. Why did you do it? I don't know. I was like starting to wash and then I like, I noticed how like, tight they were
Starting point is 00:31:26 and I just kind of went, and, and like, it is such extreme pain that like, you just got to ride out. It's like really, it's like,
Starting point is 00:31:34 it's not like your ball. It's not like it hit in the balls. It's like the skin. And I did it the other day, like by accident. I mean, I had all my shit going on and I was just like,
Starting point is 00:31:40 the way I was washing, I was like, I kind of pulled on it and I was like, no, because it's one of those things where it takes like a second to hit you know yeah it was coming oh i don't know if anybody else out there has ever experienced it disaster super super it feels like someone has a lighter just like right underneath your balls super super painful and hot like
Starting point is 00:32:01 and the hot water's on it i don't know maybe i don't know if it's the water or just the just like bat wing and once it's cold i don't know if it has to be in the shower i've never done it anywhere else outside of the shower but if anybody else out there has done that but i don't know i mean i can crack my dick and i got weird balls maybe i'm just a fucking freak okay i mean it sounds like that would hurt everybody i i think you're i mean but i'm not I'm not like ripping It's just like if you if it goes from tight To like you stretch it out so it's not tight
Starting point is 00:32:29 They're so weird Right so weird Well the reason I brought this up is because I had Sent a list I sent a link to the group Chat too it was Similar to what we were talking about Now like just things that like Girls don't know about guys
Starting point is 00:32:45 and one of the things was girls being like how much balls move around and i guess when you're down there looking at them or seeing a guy naked you you know you can see him jump around yeah like if you get cold or like they move up and they move down yeah wait so do they have muscles like can you that was actually one of the funny parts of uh let me find this link because one of them goes uh one of them was like i didn't know how much guys could move their dick without their hands and the and um like the comment below it was like and our taint an asshole too it was just like it was a very let me read some of these because it was good uh yeah morning wood had no absolutely no idea that my that that shit just pops up every
Starting point is 00:33:33 night until i started dating my first boyfriend did you know that yeah i mean then um hang on i gotta go screenshot by screenshot this list is very annoying um while you're finding that i'm gonna say something uh progesterone made me think of this i was watching football yesterday and it's funny like you with streaming you forget how all commercials are just like medical stuff and there was a commercial for uh a pill called bismarlex bismarlex it's for a psoriasis and the first side effect was suicidal thoughts and i was just thinking about someone who like like usually suicidal thoughts is a side effect of, like, an antidepressant. Like, someone who's been in that world before. In fact, psoriasis is taking a pill.
Starting point is 00:34:31 Someone who's, like, just a perfectly happy person but has a rash that gets a little itchy sometimes. And then, like, they just start thinking about driving into oncoming traffic every time they get in the car. Well, I will say this. What the fuck is wrong with me? Having just had some skin issues, if I ever had extreme psoriasis that was all the time, I might just check out. So that would make me want to kill myself, so maybe I'll take the risk of having it. But it would be funny.
Starting point is 00:35:00 You're just in your mid-30s and your first suicidal thought just hits like a fucking freight train while you're driving down the highway with your family what happened what well hell you know he had like a little red spot on his neck and now his family has orphans yeah everyone with psoriasis is like you wouldn't last an hour in the asylum where they're uh yeah so this was the ball sack physically moves around and you can see when it gets looser or tightens it's super fascinating to look at i i i mean i don't think i even noticed like i've never like seen that no but i guess if they're like i've i've i don't know if i've seen it i've certainly felt it my ex-wife was shocked at how short a phone conversation can be for dudes yeah the dude conversations always just it's like what's up not much cool how you doing talking cool yeah the example here was uh
Starting point is 00:35:52 my cousin texted me we got engaged best man question mark yep cool yeah yeah that's pretty much how it would go down uh what else we got? Most of them are way more into cuddling and having their heads rubbed. Yeah, that I have not experienced. For sure the head rubbed, though. I feel like. Who likes that? Guys. Not John.
Starting point is 00:36:19 Yeah. We know John has sexual abuse in his past, so he doesn't like physical touch. Yeah, they can make their penis move up and down without touching it. Do girls not know that? I mean, like, I knew, obviously, like... It's just Kegels for dudes. Yeah, I guess. That was this guy's point.
Starting point is 00:36:35 He was like, yeah, it flexes our taint in our asshole, too. The balls is really, like, where it's like, I i'm blind i got nothing there like no knowledge no ball knowledge i imagine the balls you don't know it's just scary we don't know anything about yeah yeah like it's like the almost like the ocean like we know but it's the great i mean the whole thing is that they it needs to be a different temperature than the body so it's just gotta hang out outside right so it knows when i heard when it needs to get closer or further away it's like it seems like a whole fucking thing man like yeah that feels like a calm that can be at 98.6 you know what i mean yeah you think that we would like figure that out by now that's what i'm saying like the human body is not fully
Starting point is 00:37:18 evolved at all i mean the fact that we still nothing's ever fully evolved right oh mr philosophy we're always a work in progress is that the definition of evolution suicidal thoughts but it's just weird to think like like like i don't know it like at some point like are the balls just gonna slowly like come back go back up only if the body temperature goes down yeah it depends on the temp. Everything you're saying right now is just coming off condescending. It's the burgundy time. So much of this thread was just funny things about,
Starting point is 00:37:56 I didn't know about the balls, and I didn't know about the dick, and then it was just like, how little they get complimented. And it was like, one time I told, let me find this one. It was like, yeah, I let me find this one it was like yeah i told my guy that i loved his shirt and he didn't even know what to say he told me he couldn't remember the last time someone complimented him so i've started uh looking at little random things to compliment him on i take that back a little bit like guys don't try and get complimented yeah you gotta ask for it like girls do.
Starting point is 00:38:29 But if you look around this office, no one puts on clothes going, I hope someone says something nice about me today. Yeah, but it's also- You put on shitty clothes on purpose. But there's another example here that is years ago, I bought my dad a Star Wars themed t-shirt. Like a Star Wars, you're not like dressing up nice, but it's like- No, but if you wore a unique shirt- Yeah, but I mean, I think it i mean i think every shirt here's just like a high noon shirt yeah no shit no one's complimenting you dude yeah you got it for free
Starting point is 00:38:49 at a liquor store but i could also see like you know i don't know if you just bob box is wearing a star wars shirt i wouldn't necessarily be like oh cool shirt man i'd say if he's like yeah if you're wearing a cool shirt i'll go yeah it's a cool shirt people just don't really wear cool shirts a lot. And then guys take pride in that. Like, I don't care about what I wear. Yeah, you fucking do. You don't care about what you wear.
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Starting point is 00:40:39 I feel like we should probably talk about Zach Bryan and Brianna. Yeah. The big news of the Barstool world and now just like the world world. I feel like we should probably talk about Zach Bryan and Brianna. Yeah. The big news of the barstool world and now just like the world world. First of all, I think we've just lost Dave. Dave thinks he's a rapper now. Dave's launching a new career. How many has he done?
Starting point is 00:41:00 Three? I think he's three. He's doing the me. Smart. What a saga. This one is, the amount of people asking me about this one is like crazy. I know. That's when you know it's like a big story. It's like it's gotten, I mean, obviously because Zach Bryan is out of the Barstool world too,
Starting point is 00:41:18 but the amount of people asking me about it, like, in wildly inappropriate settings. You know what I mean? I'm like, every time someone asks me, I'm like, what the fuck? No. Yeah. my kids and stuff yeah it's like i i don't i don't i don't have info on this like scary abusive relationship that my friend had to go through sorry sorry dude so can i ask for the g the deets shut the fuck up dad yeah it's like um i we we the the big debate everyone has always been talking about those would you take the money or not we were on opposite sides of this didn't we already do this no no oh maybe we just talked yeah yeah me and john had a conversation not in front of a microphone um hard to believe my and i would i would definitively look it's all you know cash on
Starting point is 00:42:05 the table type deal and all that stuff i don't i would not take the money i don't even think i'd really think about it my uh my thought is what what brianna like went through and i think what even you know what people know about it sounds like what people know about seemed pretty shitty and i think what probably went on even further is probably even worse is what it seems like yeah um so in that case when there's when there's really uh a lot of like emotion and and hurt and you know i guess in this case in some form of abuse it feels like blood money it feels like dirty money and and i so i can understand that being like uh i'm not touching that but the other side of me was thinking like
Starting point is 00:42:51 the ultimate goal when you go through something horrible like this or any relationship that sucks varying from like just it was you know a bad relationship that didn't work all the way up to something scary and dangerous and abusive. But the ultimate goal, I think, is to move on you're kickstarting cutting that out of your life entirely. Yeah. And you get a fuck ton of money to go live your happiest best life. But it's not your money. Again, it's a no brainer to me. Again, it's a hypothetical situation if it was
Starting point is 00:43:47 a real life it might be different but like brianna has money brianna will have a lot of money yeah she doesn't need difference too she doesn't need to have money and like every time she spends it it's like zach fucking bought that for me like i would it's like yeah that's where i feel like if if you feel that way then it would like eat at you forever i think i i could very easily be like fuck that person i'm gonna go live my absolute best life now with you know i mean she's gonna make a ton of money but 12 million dollars there's a lot of money it's like to me to me to me there's almost like a i would say less i would say no to less money but it reaches a point where i'd be like i don't give a fuck where this money came from like fuck this dude and now i can you know
Starting point is 00:44:31 buy my family houses and do whatever like you know again it all probably depends on your financial situation but like also your family big i want that fuck like it's it's all about like you're separating from a scumbag and like if you don't if you take that money you're tied to them forever i think of it the other way i think like of it i and i hope this isn't the case but my thought of it is i want her to to to be like to like completely rid herself of that and if and if she feels the way you do then then that's the right move right i worry that it's like the other direction where people will remember this like and know about this like like this involves the public more now and they're and maybe this is just my own like ptsd
Starting point is 00:45:19 of things not going away but it's like if that just if if it's forever now every time her name comes up remember when zach bryan offered 12 million dollars she didn't take it's like if that just if it's forever now every time her name comes up remember when zach bryan offered $12 million she didn't take it whereas like if she if never spoke about it and people people didn't know that it doesn't get talked about you're not connected to him forever in that sense but then it's like it's your it's internally yeah if you i don't i don't think i would feel that i think i would be like fucking sure dude like well it's also dollar bills and the dollar bills i don't care if they came from. I think I would be like, fucking sure, dude. The dollar bills are the dollar bills. I don't care if they came from here, came from there, whatever. If I can buy my dream home, my grandkids are set, this is set, that is set.
Starting point is 00:46:07 I think I could do that easier and then not have any sort of public involvement what is different in this case is that there is such a there is such value for like other women and and her her family and herself to be like to you know like uh show this guy's true color so i can understand that of like other so other women don't have to go through it and like to stand up and that's been you know what's going on gone on in the world like so much recently is like not letting people get away with this shit not letting guys you know get away with it like they always have so i understand the the actually i don't understand but i because we don't go through that but like i can understand from from a woman's point of view wanting to to stand up for that but i just i also think of it as like what would be best for just like you personally if i was in that spot you know what i mean like for me personally i would just want nothing i don't i don't want anybody to talk about it i don't want anybody
Starting point is 00:46:57 to know about it and i can oh i don't think i would do a podcast but i would still say no yeah i like well that's the worst of all john then you get nothing and you don't and I don't think I would do a podcast, but I would still say no. Yeah. Well, that's the worst of all, John. Then you get nothing and you don't, you know, you don't. Just get the fuck away from me and let's fucking. Yeah, see, so that's my mindset is like get away from me, but also I walk away with $12 million. If I thought every time I spent it, I felt like you, I would agree. I would do it. But I think I could easily spend some fucking assholes money and just be like but whatever dude my my parents now live in like their dream house dream place fucking my kids are paid off my everything is is perfect now like i'm good with that i do
Starting point is 00:47:39 think that there's like a big like that decision alone like changes the trajectory of like like it just rewires your brain you're like all right like i'm doing this like, that decision alone, like, changes the trajectory of, like, like, it just rewires your brain. You're like, all right, like, I'm doing this, like, for me. Like, I'm, you know, like, I'm betting on myself. And, like, then you make decisions differently. You're like, I'm betting on myself. Like, she probably wouldn't do as many brand deals, wouldn't do as many, like, whatever.
Starting point is 00:47:56 Like, I do think it, like, that decision alone is just going to, like, rewires your brain almost. Yeah. She's also just a wildly successful person I don't think that like that money would stop her slow her down change her but I just take the money
Starting point is 00:48:17 I think there's I also you know I think when you're in a very different depends on your earning ability and your life and all that, but also your bills. And like, I just think about like the more money I could have to deal with all the shit I need to deal with would make my life easier in the end.
Starting point is 00:48:36 And I would rather that than, I don't know, the alternative. Yeah. But, but, but, uh,
Starting point is 00:48:42 I would not trust myself to keep quiet. Like if I took the money i would be like if i have a single drink i'm telling everybody like everything ndas in general are very like i don't know it's like what really happens when i've not heard a story of anybody breaking an nda and like needing to I guess Stormy Daniels had to give some money back did she I don't know like that was the one I was like this didn't even work and I don't think anything happened to her so like what's even the fucking point of doing this I think my my understanding of him is more of a scare tactic than anything yeah it can't really prevent you
Starting point is 00:49:17 from right telling like I know a lot of things that people sign NDAas about i'll say this though if you if you and your team are scrambling and uh it sounds like it was almost like a uh a negotiation process of like the money just kept getting bigger you probably did some shitty stuff some really shitty stuff like i mean imagine trying to like quantify your shitty behavior and being like it's 12 million dollars worth of shit that's fucking garbage dude like we all have you know had you know our bad moments in relationships no one's no one's perfect but if you had to be like put it put a dollar amount that might that might begin to like make this person feel better or not talk about you or whatever it is and you go to 12 that's a lot of fucking money dude zach brian though is um and his team are
Starting point is 00:50:14 are in the fuck around and find out phase right now where like i don't think other situations like this have ever run into something like barstool and someone like Dave, where like, it's going to be a problem for the rest of your fucking life. Yeah. When Dave does this shit, like when you get, when you get your name on a champagne bottle,
Starting point is 00:50:33 like it's not, it's not just going to go away now. You know what I mean? That's, that's gonna, that's gonna follow Zach Bryant around for a long fucking time. And I, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:50:41 It's, it'll be interesting to see like he is a superstar where I'm sure there are people who are, don't know what's going on or don't know it's it'll be interesting to see like he he is a superstar where i'm sure there are people who are don't know what's going on or don't care what's going on and they just like the music or whatever but i think at every turn where uh you know dave is dave or someone at barstool is like asked about it it's like that guy fucking sucks it's not as uh i don't know how, um, people have run into that where it's like, these people usually do get away with it or pay people off or it just fades away. And it's like out here in the mud on the internet,
Starting point is 00:51:13 that shit doesn't go away. So be prepared for that to be, you know, the rest of your life. Uh, I don't know what he put out some music to that. Was that like, did that like go up on the charts?
Starting point is 00:51:24 I don't know. Cause that's the other side of it. I like, did that like go up on the charts? I don't know. Cause that's the other side of it. I wonder too, where it's like when someone does something shitty and your, and your music goes even higher, you know what I mean? It's like mother, mother,
Starting point is 00:51:34 fuck this world, man. Um, but it is my way. It's just like, okay, that's right. I do like that guy.
Starting point is 00:51:39 Yeah. Like when R Kelly went to jail, his music skyrocketed. That's right. He doesn't make bank. He doesn't make it. He doesn't make it. So anyway, um, you know, best hopefully brief.
Starting point is 00:51:50 I actually – so when I first saw that tweet – yeah, I saw it on Twitter. I saw the clip saying how much money it was. I was like, yo. I was like, this is fucking gangster. You should have took that money. And I fired up the tweet like right away before I listened to anything and really heard the episode. And then when I listened to some more of it and like realized the depths of it and how horrible it was and how much even more behind closed doors, it's even worse. And so I called Brianna and just be like, by the way, you know, I fired off a tweet before I really knew the extent of everything.
Starting point is 00:52:23 And I'm like, I want to apologize. I didn't, you know, I didn't. She was like, bro, I didn't even see the tweet. I don't care And I'm like, I want to apologize. She was like, bro, I didn't even see the tweet. I don't care. I was like, I know that. And I know you probably, A, would never even see it. And B, wouldn't care. But I was just like, I just need to.
Starting point is 00:52:36 So did you use Twitter? Yeah. I was going to say, I didn't even. I've never. Her handle is bchickenfruit. I was like, yeah, this is not something you've ever used in your life. You could have written that on a note and thrown it in the fireplace. I'd have the same chance of seeing it. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:52:47 Exactly that. I just got to make sure you know, though. But the – so that's all, you know, very serious and terrible and all that. But the funny side of it is the diss tracks and Dave being a rapper again. I just fundamentally don't get how he can't rap words. I think we did talk about this last episode, but he just, it's like when Dave talks, he can talk. And then he raps and he's just like,
Starting point is 00:53:14 like his voice goes up and it does these strange things. And it's like that, have you ever listened to a rap song? None of them sound like that, Dave. He just gets in there and he's like, have you ever listened to a rap song? None of them sound like that, Dave. He just gets in there and he's like, dude, run! It's like, there's not one rapper alive that does that, dude. It's a rap in Jimmy Buffett. Apparently, Jet Ski had to...
Starting point is 00:53:36 He would rap with him. It was almost like pushing someone on a bike and then letting them go. He would rap along with Dave and then they would get to the part that had not yet been recorded, and he would stop and let Dave keep going. That is ridiculous. It's like, I mean, I'm sure when Jet Ski and his producer and Roan and all these people make music, I can't even imagine them being like, what is this?
Starting point is 00:54:04 You know, if you're working in the industry it's like anybody who does engineering and production you know they can make magic happen with auto-tune and this and that but it's like they usually can say the words yeah what the fuck is this uh and shout out to caroline too caroline was on the the vocals for country diddy caroline was? Yeah. She sung the chorus of it. So, yeah, it's a company effort, I guess. So, that's... Where are they recording from?
Starting point is 00:54:33 Miami? I think so, because Jet Ski was... It's like, yeah, I got to fly down right now to go make another track, because it was like a... That was another that's a bad move too um the ultimate like when you delete the tweet and it makes it worse warner music should have just fucking yeah that was very very very funny that josh richards did not know
Starting point is 00:55:00 he had a music deal really that's what happened that's why i got taken down why they own his music really it was so well oh i thought it was zach bryan no no so i mean zach bryan's on warner music okay he probably went to his label and was like what the fuck do we do and they were like we can actually take this down because we signed a late we signed a deal with josh richards we. We own his next four songs because in 2020, he did something like this and made like a dumb. I did not know that.
Starting point is 00:55:29 He made like a dumb. Can you actually pull that off? I want to hear that. It's called, what's it called? Softish or something like that. Still softish. So it's like Josh Richards, Bryce Hall, all the – yeah. Back when they were –
Starting point is 00:55:48 I mean we can't. I just want to hear it. So he made that song and I guess signed a deal to do that. That's crazy. Like just put that song on the internet. You know what I mean? So they – yeah. They initially thought that because they were singing – the outro was is like singing like a zach bryan song
Starting point is 00:56:05 and they thought that somehow is copywritten like you can't do that and i was like no no is that we own josh bryan's music uh josh richard's music and we we can we you know have to we get to distribute yeah and all that so they were able to take it down oh sorry charlie d'amelio little huddy and charlie dAmelio. Yeah. Okay. So that's why they had to do Dave's version without Josh, where Dave just, like, rapped Josh's version. And then Dave made a whole separate song. Okay, so it's his second song. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:38 I got you. Second song, third recording. You know, he did Dave's version, like, Taylor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. song third recording you know you did dave's version like taylor yeah um but to be like i don't know that i had a that i signed to a major label it's that guy's life fucking nuts imagine just finding out you're you have achieved what like billions of people would dream and you're just it's just sitting on the shelf somewhere like oh yeah i got a i got a music deal if i ever want to make an album like warner made a song about lil huddy and they signed me yeah like that's i can't i guess for shit like this probably warner was like let's just get a
Starting point is 00:57:14 closet if he ever needs to if he ever wants to do anything you know we own him um but i think dave was like uh would have been nice to know. Yeah. Fucking music deal where we did this. Um, so that's that. Um, I, yeah, I said at the top of the show,
Starting point is 00:57:32 I think it was the best weekend of my life this weekend. I had, uh, Keegan, Keegan's little league team won the championship. Really? Uh, against the team that kicked us out.
Starting point is 00:57:48 So we had a revenge game for the whole, the whole saga that set all this in motion when he got kicked out of uh his first little league team because of like neighborhood borders and zoning and all that and we were teamless and we went to the shitty it was like some mighty duck shit we got like kicked out we we went to like a yonkers league that had just like shitty fields and just was like and then we ended up landing with the the westchester giants which is like the greatest fucking baseball program ever put together this dude is awesome uh anthony uh i guess it's gigante gigante i don I don't know. Italians. He was coaching for the Westchester Fire, which is a travel program, and he built
Starting point is 00:58:31 it up. I think he had two or three championship teams at all these different levels. Eight and under, nine and under, ten and under. He asked for a raise. He builds up this program. He like three different championships like three different levels and they end up firing him out of nowhere and a group of like the kids and
Starting point is 00:58:51 parents were like fuck that like we roll with him and he just started his own program and it's like scott within like a year it's like skyrocketing he just bought his own facility we're gonna have like you can just hop on an app and just like if, if you want to go to the batting cages, you can just, like, book some time. Like, everybody can use it. It's all, like, private. And professional coaches, like, all paid. Like, I'm at, like, every practice. These guys are, like, it's like a real fucking baseball club.
Starting point is 00:59:18 The championship game was like a real baseball game. It was like watching a, like, professional. What was the final? We fucking smoked it. I think it was 8-1. No shit. Dude, once Keegan got there, I don't think they lost. I think I missed one game and they had lost it.
Starting point is 00:59:36 Every other game I was at, we mercied. That's when you start getting the whispers on the bench. Like, should we just mercy roll them? Dude, their rule is six run innings. If you score six in an inning, it stops play. And then 10, like your traditional 10. And I think they did that like five straight games. Dude, this kid, this fucking kid, Sam Bauer, remember the name.
Starting point is 00:59:59 Remember the name Sam Bauer. In like 15 years, he's going to be in the bigs. This kid has a – they have a 50 pitch count limit for these kids. Routinely would pitch four innings. Just throw in darts. The other day he had a four inning perfect game where he struck everybody out. And the only ball that anybody made contact was to him. And he threw the ball over.
Starting point is 01:00:23 I was like, Sam Bauer is – and I'm talking to his parents. I'm like, your son is going to be like a professional fucking pitcher. And they're telling me he's like – he's actually a very anxious kid. He has a lot of anxiety. I'm like, what? Are you kidding me? He's dealing. I was treating these kids like I was watching the Mets.
Starting point is 01:00:40 So he pitches three innings in the championship, and then this kid Theo comes in. Theo was two for three with like three ribbies and comes in for the three-inning save. I was like – I couldn't tell, honestly, who was more happy was the kids or the dads watching because it's a very good group of parents who like – they're not like – they're invested in it, but they're not assholes about it. So they actually very like tame considering how good the team is i was
Starting point is 01:01:09 i was expecting like oh these are some serious people and the amount of pacing going on i'm like dad's being nervous and then like when like we we would get out of an inning and it would it felt like i was watching the mets we only need six like, whoa. We only need six more outs. Who's going to pitch the fifth? Who's going to pitch the sixth? And, like, balls in play, everybody, like, making plays, catching, throwing. I was like, this was like a real fucking baseball game. I couldn't believe it, man.
Starting point is 01:01:36 So we were in the championship. I don't think I won a basketball championship as a kid in, like, maybe, like like seventh grade when i was still playing in the bronx we won like a and and and the teams in the bronx were like good so it's like a real actual can be proud of it as a kid championship i don't think i won anything else did you win as a kid yeah you won in hockey a lot we like we i played yeah i mean like, I can, I have, my dad has, like, in the gym, in the garage, like, all our, like, WNB, it's just, like, a fucking crazy pictures all over the place. Yeah. And then there's a lot. You won a lot?
Starting point is 01:02:13 Like, a lot of championships? I mean, there are a couple of pictures. I know we won Can-Am, like, three times, which is a very cool hockey tournament. It's Canada versus America, or not Canada versus America. It takes place in Montreal and Lake Placid. So I have a few of us winning that. And I just don't really remember. I'm sure we did a couple of younger things.
Starting point is 01:02:34 Yeah. But definitively, I have, I think, two or three. And then I'm sure there are others. Yeah, and the funny part is Keegan was like, can we go play video games now he just like went about his day the rest of the day like he was he was pumped they gave out medals instead of trophies and he got like a shirt and a banner and he was like he was pumped about it but he was equally as like happy to just like go home he wanted dunkin donuts and his switch dude the can-ams like the dads would go get shit fleeced after like like a team
Starting point is 01:03:05 that one yeah like we all have to just sit in a room dude because like the kids couldn't go out yeah right you don't have you don't have free will you can't i mean i remember like we'd win the championship and i'd like watch some movie on the like on demand fall asleep because you know you're staying in a room with your parents at that age and like my dad would come like popping bottles rolling in at like 3 a.m. You have fun celebrating my championship last night, Bob? Yeah, exactly. I said to the dad, I was like, this is our chip.
Starting point is 01:03:32 This is our championship here. And then that night, so while we're at the tournament, I had to go to Danbury, Connecticut. There's like 30 teams, all different age groups, all playing their championships on that Saturday. And so there was a lot of music being played, like a lot of pump-up music. And Eye of the Tiger comes on.
Starting point is 01:03:53 And it was actually amazing to see that there is something inherent about that song. Keegan stopped and was like, what is this? I was like, yeah, this shit fucks. I remember asking was like what is this i was like yeah this shit fucks i do i remember i remember asking about this song what song is it fucks yeah and i was like oh i'm so like it made me so proud that like his ear like he knew that you know so he's like what is this and i was like i the tiger like i'm explaining the lyrics to him and i was like and it's attached to this movie and this guy rocky so i i uh i explained that to shane keegan and i was like and it's attached to this movie and this guy rocky so i i uh i explained
Starting point is 01:04:25 that to shane keegan and i was like do you want to watch it tonight and they were they were like yeah let's do it because they as much as kids usually are like their parents are lame for at least for our generation i'm batting a thousand with old school movies they're all fucking good they're all great this is why I still maintain every generation does this but like ours are different cause like when my parents did that to me I was like these movies fucking stink dude no way when your parents were trying to
Starting point is 01:04:56 make you watch like old black and white shit it's like they're all garbage that's the equivalent for they're watching shit that's like 30 40 years old yeah but like if your parents tried to put some shit on from like the 50s i mean i don't i don't remember the years but like i i loved monty python um but that's what i mean i'm playing those movies came out like no monty python's like the 70s i guess maybe right yeah but like that's still that's still not really you know what i mean it was probably equivalent of watching something for like 30 years so this is when
Starting point is 01:05:37 did that come out is it that old i would i would guess 70s i guess if our parents, well. T-Python released. 75. So 75 would be. 75. 75 would be like a 20-year difference. So that would be like putting on a movie from like 2000. Yeah. I'm putting on movies from 1985. You know, I'm putting like Rocky's in the 80s, dude.
Starting point is 01:06:00 And they were at first, like Rocky starts, like Rocky IV I put on. I just cut right to the chase and i uh and i uh so i put it on and it starts like a little bit slow because in the beginning it's just like rocky and paulie and he's talking to apollo and i'm kind of giving him the background and keegan was like kind of watching an ipad i was like i almost lost him shea was kind of watching an iPad. I was like, I almost lost him. Shay was kind of like, I don't know. And then once Rocky gets cooking, these kids were up on the couch dodging, punching. Keegan's going – you know when they go, the Russian is cut. The Russian is cut. Keegan had his own version.
Starting point is 01:06:38 He goes, he's bleeding, bro. He's bleeding, bro. He said, punch him in the eye. Punch him in the eye. And at one point you see Drago spit out all of his blood and shea was like oh my god like visceral reactions chanting rocky with the with the uh crowd like the full real rocky experience 40 years later with an eight and nine year old i've i've never been like happier and more proud than i was like yes like these are my fucking kids let's go
Starting point is 01:07:06 it was i don't know what was better winning the championship or watching rock night with them it was it was unbelievable man it's very fun now that they're getting to that age where you can like do shit like that with them like i don't know i got a i got an endless amount of like movies and songs and all this shit if you like this stuff i got plenty fucking more to go telling you man greatest generation greatest generation. Greatest generation. My friends make fun of me because one time we were watching Creed 2
Starting point is 01:07:28 and I was like, it was like 30 minutes in the movie and they were like, oh, this might be better than the second one. I was like, was there a first one?
Starting point is 01:07:37 You're watching a movie called Creed 2? They go, what did you, what do you, do you know anything about this lore? I was like, no.
Starting point is 01:07:43 Did you never see Rocky? I had never seen Rocky. The first Rocky movie you saw was Creed 2. And I was like, no. You've never seen Rocky? I've never seen Rocky. The first Rocky movie you saw was Creed 2. And I was like, oh my god, they should make more of these. I saw the ninth movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Also, they keep talking about the first one the whole time. So you didn't understand the dynamic between him?
Starting point is 01:08:02 I was like, you jump in the middle, you gotta figure it out. It kind of starts to come together in an hour. If you don't know the dynamic, he's the son and Rocky's training him, you just think it's just a boxer and a trainer? Yeah. Which I guess is what Rocky was. The original Rocky didn't have all that shit. It was when I think Rocky V started to autoplay, and they were like, there's another one?
Starting point is 01:08:25 I was like, no, no, no. No. This doesn't count. You can maybe skip to Balboa, but we're going to go right to Creed. That guy's got a son. They're like, what? This is crazy. It was unbelievable, man.
Starting point is 01:08:35 It was good stuff. The Emirates NBA Cup is here. I'm officially old and washed up and not as up on sports as I once was because I've never heard of the Emirates NBA Cup. I know, but I've never heard of the Emirates NBA Cup. I think it's the first time they call it that. Oh, okay. Got it. I'm guessing. I'm just assuming. It sounds like the in-season tournament.
Starting point is 01:08:57 So all 30 teams split up into six groups every Tuesday and Friday. Play for the right to advance into the single elimination in-season tourney, which then culminates into the NBA Cup championship in Vegas. That's all very ridiculous, but it's kind of a cool way to just spice up the regular season. It's very cool. People hated it last year. Not hated it. I think people liked the tournament itself, but then made fun of the Lakers for making
Starting point is 01:09:21 a banner. Well, you shouldn't. Yeah. I guess you can't have one without the other. It's the first tournament. We won it want it right we made a little banner like right they're not hanging it in the rafters with their championships it was like as long as you don't do that kind of shit like I think it's a little thing in the hall in the in the concourse like you know you know who needs this baseball desperately needs this yeah like if there was little things throughout the nine months of the baseball season where it was just a little
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Starting point is 01:10:57 21 and over, age and eligibility varies by jurisdiction. Boyd in Ontario. Bonus bets expire 168 hours after issuance. For additional terms and responsible gaming resources, see dkng.co slash bball. In the comedy world, the Grammys came out. The Grammy nominations came out. And we got Gaffigan, Nikki Glaser, Trevor Noah, Dave Chappelle, and one more. Who was it? Was it one more? I thought it was five.
Starting point is 01:11:29 Yeah. Gaffigan, Nikki Glazer, Trevor Noah, Dave Chappelle. But here's the problem. See if we can guess it. Don't look it up. Because it's like we should just fucking – we should know. You know what I mean? It's like we should just fucking we should know you know what i mean it's like knowing the the best the the best pictures it's like you know the fucking best movies they get nominated the
Starting point is 01:11:51 fact that we can't even think of the of the the nomination is a problem yeah i don't know dave chapelle trevor noah nikki oh ricky gervais uh and some of those were good some of those were eh but if you're not going to put Beautiful Dogs Shane Gillis is special in there it's like what's the point and I know this is nothing new in the comedy world we do it with Always Sunny and the Emmys and actually
Starting point is 01:12:18 a bunch of funny shit and the Emmys in general and the Oscars doesn't win anything for comedy. But if you're going to do a category. I'd be curious if Young, and I genuinely don't know the answer to this, when Chris Rock was Young, was he getting nominated?
Starting point is 01:12:40 Because he got nominated last year. It feels like, yeah. When Jaffigan was Young, when Gervais was young. It's a little more like almost like a career achievement award when you do get it. Louis just got it recently. He's gotten a lot, though. I think all since he got canceled,
Starting point is 01:12:58 I think he's been nominated like every album he's put out since then. That was the other thing. People were like, oh, Shane. No, it wasn't technically an album. He didn't release release it on audio it wasn't the right time frame like nope it was all there was 94 not like uh options people whatever specials and they just did not give him the nod on that one which is just you know insane it's just it's like obviously there's you know politics or personal feelings or whatever this is just insane it was the it's like obviously there's you know politics or personal feelings or whatever this is just insane it was the best special of the year it was the biggest special of the year
Starting point is 01:13:28 he's the funniest guy is it was objectively like funny material you know it's not like a situation where it's like oh that was popular but not quality oh is did he put it out because it's actually not on spotify beautiful dogs live and all that is true it's not out on there but that like did not that's not the rules. Yeah. Because at least I read a Billboard article that said it was 94. I assume it happens the same way. I have friends in the music industry, and they're like, it is so almost to the point where it's not even corrupt.
Starting point is 01:14:07 It's just like, this is how it's done's done yeah you just have people to pay it all like yeah like a label or a whatever the label buys yeah yeah like 100 that's i at this point because i remember saying more with music than comedy because comedy is like pretty independent but i was always thinking if i if i was coming up in the music game being on a label is crazy. Just be independent. You can put it out yourself. You can create it yourself. You don't need them anymore.
Starting point is 01:14:30 But if you ever want any of that stuff, you do. If you want to get on the radio station, if you want to get at the top of a Spotify playlist, if you want to get nominated, if you want to win, if you want to be in commercials and all that shit, it's just pay to play. It's just like you have to have a label who owns you in order to do those things and so that's what you're paying for not because it used to be like you are paying for distribution and promotion and all that and i and while that still happens now i think you can do that yourself but what you can't do is get a grammy nomination yeah even if you put out the best music, the best comedy, it's like, well, you're not part of the system. It's fucking insane. It is like every time it happens, you're like, this is nuts.
Starting point is 01:15:11 But it does happen every time. Yeah. I think it's tough when there's just like a clear. If he doesn't win, fine. But you're not going to nominate him. Like Trevor Noble is going to be on there over. Yeah. Because like Jim Gavigan, all-time fucking legend.
Starting point is 01:15:26 Nikki Glaser's, like, you know, an unstoppable freight train right now with her career. Ricky Gervais, that was his first ever nomination, which was like, well, like, that's crazy. He should have had more, but, like, okay, he's on there. Chappelle, I didn't care for. I was like, I'm sure this is just the one where he's making fun of trans people again. But, like, if he puts something something out he'll always get nominated and then trevor noah feels particularly like political that was very silly um so i don't know i watch a lot of stand-up comedy i don't know anybody who's watched trevor noah special i didn't even like yeah i
Starting point is 01:16:01 think i've seen it on netflix but i didn't know and that's where it should just be like the the people's choice award almost because it's like comedy really is determined so much i feel like comedy is a pretty good meritocracy there's there's some like people that you would call a plant that like they're not really plants but they're like you know they're more corporate or more yeah you know whatever but for the most part it's like the funniest people it might take a while but like at least within the industry they know you know what i mean yeah yeah i guess but but that's that's not what it's about when it comes to like the hardware and winning awards but if you if you were to put it out to like the comedy world what five nominations for the year i mean i had to look
Starting point is 01:16:42 at the list of like who came out this year. But within the time frame, it would be Soder and Bargatze and Shane and Sam and all those people. So whatever. These guys are still fucking crushing it. But I'm sure it would be nice to have. It would be nice to put a Grammy on the mantle. Yeah. I mean, that's definitely something you want to check off and it's like
Starting point is 01:17:08 i'm sure you know shane will have a million more specials but like that one is so fucking there's every chance that that might be as funny as special ever because i mean that to me it's like some of those bits i think the navy seal ex-boyfriend is like the funniest yeah yeah it's just so relatable and but so not at the same time it's like the perfect uh perfect story like so who knows so it's like when you when you get a good one and then you deserve it you fucking deserve it but i think i think his new hour is better so even better well the i actually and i also i saw soda this weekend soda's new hour is so goddamn fucking funny so i went with people who uh didn't uh know him they knew him from billions like i had two friends who were telling
Starting point is 01:17:54 me about like oh we started watching billions it was like a friend and his wife and uh she'd never seen it and so i was like let's go he mafee like he's a comedian like you want to go see him and it just happened to line up that week it's like the start of new york comedy fest dan was performing friday night at town hall and that's got to be a mind fuck if you know if you think of it as just that it's like but they were like this is the funniest thing i've ever seen yeah i know yeah like like billions is a great role for him but it's not like hilarious you know so it's like oh that guy who has this like side role on the the show about the stock market is the funniest person alive yeah like you can do the best
Starting point is 01:18:36 impressions does the best jokes best podcast funniest guy alive it's like wait what he's just the fucking dude in millions dude this is i think this is it I mean it's funny to say Because like he's obviously already A wildly successful dude with a You know recurring role On one of the biggest shows ever You know A podcast that's
Starting point is 01:18:57 He had a show that ran for a decade And now a new podcast so it's not like Oh this is you know Dan's finally Going to break through but I do hope Like he needs to be one of those guys who's making like 75 million dollars like i don't know if it's in his personality to be the guy who like grinds a world tour and like does all the the bullshit side like the work like the politics side and the whatever side of it he's just like a happy dude but his material and his talent should be like 75 million so i hope that's on the horizon for him um i when i i mentioned sam real as well
Starting point is 01:19:34 as getting snubbed because i thought his special was great and he i think he came out too late in the year so he might be eligible for next year so i was talking to him and i was like well fingers crossed that you do get the nomination for next year and he was like who gets the fucking shit i was like yeah i know you're right and it doesn't really affect you but like if there's a category and you're gonna and the grammys are gonna do it like they should do it right and he said probably bothered more if it was a category you have to give a speech for yeah yeah yeah that's true like they handed to you in the storage closet yeah yeah if you're like on tv and all that it makes a big difference but but he said what you just alluded to he was like um like i don't really give a shit and when if and
Starting point is 01:20:14 when i maybe do win one by that point i'll probably suck which is i guess kind of their their their you know vision of it is like their their the way they see it is like – yeah. It's a lifetime achievement. Yeah. Not for that specific government. And if that's the case, then like that's okay too. But make sure you get these guys when they fucking – before they kick the bucket. But it's like, yeah, I'd rather get it when I deserve it rather than like 10 specials in because the audience is clamoring. How is this guy never won a Grammy?
Starting point is 01:20:43 Did you see Shane admitted he didn't vote for trump wait what yeah i i like meaning i mean he voted for kamala just didn't vote he didn't vote but he it wasn't like uh oh no i don't vote type deal he was like he like explicitly said he's like i would not vote for donald where did you say that i saw it on instagram it was like uh like one of those like funniest stand-ups or whatever. I was like, damn, I want to just probably let that one ride. Yes! I respect the fuck out of him being like...
Starting point is 01:21:10 Hell yeah. He's funny where he's like, I'm very clearly a Trump enjoyer. Yeah. A Trump supporter. I don't know about that. Those are two different stories. I mean, God, I wish the world could like, the rest of the world could admit that. Like it falls somewhere in that space as opposed to where they're at.
Starting point is 01:21:29 That shows a couple things. Number one, like respect the hell out of just like being honest about where you really stand. And number two, that's how fucking talented, popular, and unstoppable Shane Giggs is, that he could say that and that entire demographic supporting group audience of his would be like, hmm, don't love that, but like, let's go to his new special. You know what I mean? Like, that ain't stopping. Nobody's fucking, you know, boycotting Shane at this point.
Starting point is 01:22:02 That's a runaway trade, man. I had said before, like, before the election I was like Shane's the only person who's like handled this in a way I think is done well where he was like I do the jokes and you think what you want of the jokes but like I'm not sure yeah so I'm not like going to his rallies or I'm not like I'm sure I've heard him like Tony Hinchcliffe's been in Venice was rallies I'm sure Shane's been invited to his rallies. Absolutely. If you don't think Shane was the first choice for MSG. Right, right. It's like Drake turned down the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 01:22:31 I've been offered this and I didn't go. I've never even heard Shane talk politics. Not politics specifically. Everything's a culture war now and all that. Right. But even him, it's like they do now and all that right but anybody even him it's like they they they do it like on behalf of him they you know but he's never up there being like talking about i don't remember really him talking about censoring and woke and woke is and all that and i definitely
Starting point is 01:22:55 don't hear him talking about you know like policy and stealing elections and all that shit he just does the impression basically you you know you probably get an idea where he like leans but nobody really knows that kind of shit so it's like a lot of people you like you just kind of fill in the blanks for them or speak for them or assume for them it's like fucking idea i feel like on matt and shane's podcast whenever i've listened they've kind of talked like it doesn't surprise me because he's kind of been like i think that's what he said it on it was a it look it was it again, I forget what Instagram account it was. It was like funniest stand-up or something like that. And it was like one of those carousels.
Starting point is 01:23:29 It was like Shane Gillis admits he didn't vote for Donald Trump. And then I flipped to the side. It definitely looked like a Matt and Shane episode. It wasn't. Stavi was on it. I forget who. It was like, you know, how Matt and Shane's are filmed. It was like the one static shot.
Starting point is 01:23:42 And they were like, poor lighting. They were sitting at a table. So I couldn't it was definitely stop stop me i can recognize in the dark um and he's like the the jordan silhouette like you know exactly yeah you can see a shadow of him i mean that that uh we we've we've spiraled out of control like the when when dana white like thanked all the all the podcasts like i was like i don't think these guys should really have much bearing in this world yeah i mean aiden ross aiden ross is like a political influencer now fucking uh i mean even like theo bonn's like massive and and so you know j Vance and Trump and – but it's like his whole thing is being like just hilariously ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:24:30 Like that mixing with the political world is fucking insane. I think we need to reset the – but at the same time, I don't know. I go back and forth. It's like – especially having like started a podcast so early, I think it's cool that it's gotten to a point where it is so – where podcasts are like respected and I think almost too far. Did you see the – it was like – I guess Kamala paid Alex Cooper for that appearance. So they paid – they said six figures to go on Call Her Daddy. Oh, it's six. And they got – and I think it like – it didn't crack a million views.
Starting point is 01:25:09 Really? And Joe Rogan was free for Donald Trump and got probably 70 million views or whatever. I don't necessarily know if one of those – if that really matters one way or the other. But so I think it's cool coming from a podcast where it's like literally starts out as like you're just like dicking around with your friends and now you get to the industry's at a point where a presidential candidate is paying you hundreds of thousands of dollars for a chance on your podcast in that regard i think it's cool that podcasts have become such an important and like uh accepted part of media on the other hand it probably should just
Starting point is 01:25:45 be guys fucking around like friends just digging around and and not swaying presidential elections it's like i can't tell either if it does that's scary and if it doesn't then like let's stop talking like it is you know i mean it's like i don't know either way this is this is fucking crazy i guess i don't know some people probably think it's it's like more i guess it's kind of symbolic of how trump got elected in the first place that it's like the opinions of regular people and like regular conversation actually matters more now than you know lifelong politicians and legacy media but i don't necessarily know that's always a good thing because we are just a lot of times dicking around here i mean rogan himself has always been like i'm a fucking meathead who's like stoned half the time you know but then all of a sudden that guy can
Starting point is 01:26:36 you know probably sway an election so i don't know if it's good or bad but it's for sure interesting that we're at this point what we got the ladies let's go hi guys first time long time with a hypothetical for you so cancer vampires cancer is not communicable disease which means like you can't catch it from someone else like a common cold or something whatever but what if someone with blood cancer got bit by a vampire? Could the vampire catch cancer from that person? Had a lot of people go both ways on this. Like, obviously a vampire can't get cancer.
Starting point is 01:27:15 It's a vampire. But for the sake of the question, what if they could? So, person with blood cancer bit by vampire. Does a vampire catch cancer? Thanks. Does a vampire even get affected by cancer? I don't think they'd catch cancer. They'd catch AIDS, and they'd look exactly the same.
Starting point is 01:27:44 My friend brought up a great point that when you're drunk and a mosquito drinks your blood, do they get drunk? Shit-faced. There's a hammered mosquito just like, floating around like, ah, I'm fucking drunk. Drunk flying. I think, I mean,
Starting point is 01:27:57 a vampire is dead. Like an undead. It's an undead, yeah. So there's no sort of aging... That's what I'm saying. you get aids and you just look like a vampire yeah i can't even tell that guy's got aids i thought he was just a vampire so aids but no cancer yeah because aids cancer aids is blood transfer right like
Starting point is 01:28:19 cancer is like a mutal like a mutilation word? Mutation. Mutation, yeah. Where AIDS is like, it's just like the presence of it, right? It's in your blood. I think cancer is... But blood cancer is probably similar to AIDS where it's like the blood... It's like, I don't think if you had cancer,
Starting point is 01:28:38 if you had liver cancer and I bit you and your blood went in me, I don't think I would get your liver cancer. But if you have blood cancer and I now have your cancer blood in me, I probably have it. And it probably spreads. I don't think. Right?
Starting point is 01:28:50 It's just like cancer mutates and spreads, right? Yeah. So if you get a little bit in you and it just multiplies. But I feel like if your red blood cells are like, get this the fuck out of here, then it can get rid of it. But if it doesn't recognize i guess i guess if my body could fight your cancer that's not really how it works right it's not like it's like when you get cancer is it something like your body is not able to fight it and other people's
Starting point is 01:29:18 would be or it's just like you know everybody would fall victim to it if they had this thing i think i think if you're a healthier person you probably have a better chance of fighting it. It probably affects you still, but you would, I think, have a better chance of killing it. So I guess it depends on who the vampire is and who the cancer is. I think vampires kill the shit out of cancer. It's like the... Supernatural. Anything that fucking...
Starting point is 01:29:42 Anything that, like, humans... That would fuck with humans., like vampires could smash that. Yeah. I'm a fucking vampire. I'm alive for 10,000 years. I can turn into a fucking bat. I mean I can turn into a bat. You think that your little human disease is going to fuck with me?
Starting point is 01:30:02 I morph into an animal. I morph into a animal. I morph into a ball sack. It's like I found out when I was young that I had an uncle who had Down syndrome. And I found out that I was like at his facility. And the doctor told me that he's not going to die of AIDS. Because no one with Down syndrome has ever died of AIDS. I think he was maybe it was cancer oh yeah that's right and i was like that's a wild thing to tell a nine-year-old
Starting point is 01:30:30 but okay um but i i always remember it now that that and he the doctor was right he didn't die of whatever he told me he wasn't gonna die of um he had a suicide actually um but uh yeah like vampires are the down syndrome of the cancer world vampires are the down syndrome of the cancer can't get it and that wait is that's a true thing that people with down syndrome can't are you doctors heard that too it was either cancer or AIDS it was a big one I know that because syndrome can't... I think I've heard that too. It was either cancer or AIDS. It was a big one. I know that because I remember. So I guess I don't remember fully, but it was either cancer or AIDS. Someone with Down syndrome has never died of that.
Starting point is 01:31:18 I mean, that's also probably like Asian people though, right? What's that? I don't think Asian people get Down syndrome. Really? No, but have you ever seen one? Yeah. You think asian people get down syndrome really no but i have you ever seen one yeah you've seen asian people with down syndrome i feel like i've seen a lot really uh yeah because in california there's a bunch of asian people yeah i've never seen an asian person with down syndrome people with down syndrome can die from cancer but the risk is lower huh check aids they don't have it bad after all.
Starting point is 01:31:48 Huh. All right. This doctor might lie to me. Well, no. I mean, that sentence sounded, though, like at one point they probably thought nobody could. Yeah. Well, it's probably just like it probably took a while for it to happen. You know?
Starting point is 01:32:04 It was like when people thought that black people couldn't get COVID because it just hadn't happened yet. Yeah. And then, you know, eventually, you know know it's a small percentage of the population maybe like the medical world didn't even know if it had happened yet and then eventually they're like ah this retarded guy came in came into uh you know sloan kettering one day medical marvel um i forget what podcast i heard this on but like this guy it was like this this guy like started like he was totally normal and then he started to kind of have like pedophilic thoughts and then he like just turned into like a pedophile and he but he was aware of it so he like told his wife he was like by the way like i'm really like i pedophile and he but he was aware of it so he like told his wife he was like by the way like i'm really like i'm fantasizing about kids just wanted to flag that and so then
Starting point is 01:32:51 they go to the doctor and they're like oh well he has a giant tumor in his head and so then they like get it out he goes back he's not a pedophile anymore he's like okay that was like i'm i'm back into like normal people and then and then he like a few years later like pedophilic thoughts start like creeping back into his head and they go back and they're like oh yeah the tumor's back he had a pedophile tumor let me tell you this if i ever die of a brain tumor no i've been thinking about banging kids from now on. Because I'm not telling that to anybody. That's the bravest thing I've ever heard. I would be like, this is a fucking nightmare, but this is my battle and I will fight it alone.
Starting point is 01:33:38 I'm not telling anyone else. Like, dude, imagine your best friend came to you and was like, dude, I've been thinking about banging kids. Don't tell anyone. Don't ever say that again. Should go to a doctor like no no don't only if you're gonna get get castrated or something like that go lock yourself in a room forever that is that's not one of those things you know i i got like i gotta tell you because i need help it's like i can't fix that bro yeah yeah if i if i have this mysterious tumor that i die from i've been thinking about that all time all time bad luck to get the pedophile tumor twice like give me anything else give me the tumor that makes me think this way. I'm a murderer. I'm a regular rapist.
Starting point is 01:34:28 It has to specifically be the kid rapist tumor. That's crazy. Was it on here? Maybe it was another podcast I listened to. But this guy worked in the ER. He was a nurse. And then this other guy who was was really old, he was, like, a veteran, was, like, dying. And then his, like, last words were, like, by the way, this whole time I was a pedophile, I didn't act on it once, so I can die.
Starting point is 01:34:57 Like, feeling good about that. How many people do you think are like that because of what you just said? No one's really admitting it except for the tumor guy. I can't imagine many. I don't know. I guess that's a hope. I think it's just something we would never know, though. I just don't think anybody would ever admit to it.
Starting point is 01:35:17 So there's no literature on it. There's no examples of it. But I wonder if there's some guys. I mean, people control sexual urges that i mean you know it's like people control sexual urges that that are you know you don't cheat you don't right you don't do this you don't do that like so it could happen yeah i gotta imagine that pedophile urge that hits like mcdonald's sprite like like it's not your regular Sprite. It's the bubbly, spicy where you're like, this is different, and I'm going to drink a large one.
Starting point is 01:35:51 God damn, dude. I'm going to get the big size, bro. I'm going to get the super size. I'm drinking this whole. It's true. If I go to McDonald's, I get a soda. I'll have a couple sips here and there. If I get a McDonald's Sprite, I'm drinking the whole fucking thing.
Starting point is 01:36:08 There is no stopping that, dude. That's all I can live on. It's not often I get Jackie to make faces. I don't got a real, like, what the fuck am I doing with my life? You know what I mean? You can get pussy whenever you want but that McDonald's that Sprite god damn alright KFC
Starting point is 01:36:33 what up long time first time trying to get real though um barstool deep state talking bus and boys. Shouted out on the presidential candidate, but by Dana White. And months ago, I was already worried about this
Starting point is 01:36:54 because it seems like Dana White kind of has something over a lot of the Barstool employees. Dana White has like a syndicate going on. Yeah, he does. In a, not a diddy type way, but in a money type way. I don't know if you guys
Starting point is 01:37:13 know what I'm talking about by now. I just used Google Gemini to help remind me of the actual term, which was tunnel of chaos. Google Gemini actually was able to What the fuck is Google Gemini? I've never even heard of that shit. Just podcast
Starting point is 01:37:32 strips or whatever but yes the tunnel of chaos is what I've been referring to. What are we looking at right now? Listening to what they were talking about when people like...
Starting point is 01:37:46 Is that his arm? Yeah. Titus. Mark Titus. Will Compton. Taylor. Taylor. Luan.
Starting point is 01:37:57 Two other Barstool guys were there. The Tunnel of Chaos with Dana White, who's since been kicked out of Vegas I think involved getting up to hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt and Dana White saying keep going double it, double it until doubling it eventually equaled breaking
Starting point is 01:38:20 even or something and then that person eventually winning like $10,000 or name what you want and you eventually get there even or something and then that person eventually winning like ten thousand dollars or name your name what you want and you eventually get there and you risk it enough um but that just seems like if you don't have an explicit conversation beforehand um like yo i don't want to do this I have no interest in gambling or winning or risking it or owing anyone, um, anything. If you don't have that conversation beforehand, then Dana White quickly turns into someone who has bailed you out of a $200,000 debt or $100,000 debt, I think was
Starting point is 01:39:03 Mark Titus's case and similar in all the people who were there like they were down and they were the ones at the table kind of fuck with this theory they had named and it was all i think we get the point like i don't get them what's the point like like these guys like like busting with the boys like, worshipped Dana White because of that time that, like, they were, like, down and out. But, like, Uncle Dana basically, like, you know, was there to make sure you were okay and you got back. But you have that explicit conversation before you go into the Tunnel of Chaos. Like, you know what a Tunnel of Chaos is.
Starting point is 01:39:38 Yeah, yeah. Like, there is a level, as I understand it, they're like, you pick the amount of money you want to make and Dana will just make sure that that happens. But like Will Compton, it took him a long fucking time and I don't know. Like what if there's a time where Dana is like – I think there was a time where Dana was like, I have to go. But like we'll take care of it. He was like – I think like a UFC event was starting. He was like, we'll take care of whoever he was like i think like a ufc event was starting he was like we'll go and it wasn't it was like um i think taylor and and will like gambled all night to like make sure to get him back or something like that yeah yeah so like it's all done with within
Starting point is 01:40:16 friends but dana white has like he has like like deep state like presidential weird shit. He has like a political party almost. He does it out of like – I mean he's super rich and it's fun and he's like creating like a moment. But I'm sure there's – he has his motives. I think Dana White knows what he's doing when he's like – he's not doing this joe schmoe off the street you know what i mean yeah he's doing it for the big dogs i think i think he uh so he's i'm sorry i'll be he's winning money i think for will and taylor i think those guys like like dave usually calls even the it calls him out like he that they that busman would do like anything they They would like die for Dana White.
Starting point is 01:41:05 Yeah. And it's because of this. Right. So it's like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean it's like us with Burt. I'll do anything for Burt. But that's just like.
Starting point is 01:41:13 But his is more like it's explicitly like you're down 250 grand at the fucking blackjack deal right now. And I will make sure you're not. You do feel a little bit like I own that guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. you do feel a little bit like i own that guy yeah he he the way burt does it with us for like fun experiences where we're just like we we will always have your back when you do it like literally with money it does feel a little more i can understand a conspiracy theory like this i don't think that's what's going on i think if dana white ran around doing it to like random people it might be a little more like i i now own you yeah he's doing it with like famous people, it might be a little more like I now own you. He's doing it with famous people and he's creating content and it's viral
Starting point is 01:41:47 and it's all that shit. But I don't mean this in a bad way because Dana White has – he's been good to Barstool and he's cool with Bob Fox and all that. But if he wanted to, I think he could flex his way into a cult. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is how Scientology starts. Yeah, it's kind of like, it was all fun and games, and now you worship me and I run the whole operation.
Starting point is 01:42:14 That is a funny observation that I think they're, even if it's subconscious or he doesn't realize he's doing it, that's happening. Because all those guys are like but like dana white rolls in the room and says like like like dana white has more control over busting with the boys than he does us oh for sure so you know but but that's i i you don't get invited to tunnel chaos unless you're already a friend well uh or a friend i think you get invited to the tunnel of chaos if you are like famous. Friend of a friend.
Starting point is 01:42:45 Yeah. But like you have to have some clout and, you know, there's a mutual exchange here kind of like it's going to be filmed. It's going to be talked about. It's going to be a thing, you know. I also think there's an inherent like he loves to gamble. And so it's kind of like how Bert loves to drink and party. So he does that with us. And we all share that moment where he's like, that was fucking awesome, right?
Starting point is 01:43:05 We were down and then we were up. But when it is gambling and money, there is a more direct path to like I can control you. Yeah, yeah. Like Burt, you know, it's awesome but we wouldn't like lose money or owe you or anything like that. The Dana White syndicate is – keep an eye on that one, because if Dana wants streamers or podcasters to do something for him, I think they're doing it. I think
Starting point is 01:43:31 if Dana White told Will you have to kill somebody, he'd be like, alright, let's go bury this body. Do you think that if killing was legal, you would have been killed by now? Great question. Yes. People hate me. I don't think you would. Well, I'm thinking, like, I've found myself in some pretty dangerous situations before.
Starting point is 01:43:52 Yeah. I would guess. I probably did, yeah. When do you think you're going to make out? I got a knife pulled on me in Spain once. I've just been to, like, dangerous places. Yeah. I mean, like, I'm only thinking because we were just talking with steve fieri about el salvador and colombia right um the devil's breath
Starting point is 01:44:11 thing the devil's powder yeah he was like what are you doing el salvador i don't know fucking partying um yeah but the yeah i think i probably would have been killed by now because i like i've been in enough yeah like dangerous places or bad times while also being fucked up. I've been a meaty target pretty often. We'll just kill this drunk white boy and take all his shit. Yeah, like when I got mugged, that guy would have just blown my head off because it's legal. I guess. Yeah, I guess like there's just no woman anymore.
Starting point is 01:44:44 They're all gone. That would be funny if we legalized it all and then you guys were gone and these guys would be like, there's no one left to rape or kill. Yeah, we did it all. We did it all. I mean, the fun of that is you just make a new person. So you keep one. Are you saying the raping? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:03 It's breathing. I said the fun was the creating a new person, which I yeah that does make that nope never mind what's up guys i specifically want to know jackie's take on this so what would your reaction be if you're at the gym and your workout just like stretching and some guy like right next to you starts doing handstands and crashing like really bad what a move there was this guy like he came in and he like warmed up started doing handstands but was not good at them and would like it was like dramatic like he would before going rub his hands together for like 10 seconds go up hold it for like not even a second his legs would come down loudly full body just slam on the ground and he would audibly go like damn it after every time he talked to himself
Starting point is 01:46:06 and i was like what the fuck like do you have no self-respect i was like right next to him and there are other people in the gym and i was like i i don't get it like go up against the wall if you're trying to work on your handstand game and i feel like if you're good at handstands it's not like that we it's like a pretty normal addition to a workout like I've done it before I used to be a gymnast and I've done like the shoulder taps before as like part of the workout so I so badly wanted to just start doing handstands just to be like a dick I think that was why it was so bizarre to me because I was like why would you do these if you can't and it's like loud and dramatic when you're falling over I didn't do them though I I try to stay away from men at all costs unless they're like my
Starting point is 01:47:02 co-workers or my friends but yeah i don't know that was that was something i was also catching up on old episodes listening to the one where jackie was talking about how she fucked a felon who would imitate robin and so all of that together that was that was something i tried to think of a story that was like worse than that experience, like a hookup story. And I, I fucked around a lot before I'm with my boyfriend now.
Starting point is 01:47:34 I couldn't think of anything. That was, that's all time. But anyways, yeah. Anytime she's been at the game, I'm like, she racked her brain as hard as she could.
Starting point is 01:47:44 Yeah. That's not even my worst one. The Robin one, he was kind of a good guy. Joker. Joker. Joker. Trying to do handstands, that's her best point about this whole thing. You don't try to do handstands.
Starting point is 01:48:04 You either know how to do them or you don't try to do handstands you either know how to do them or you don't dude i have done this like i i but but i did it right i did it it was like um i was i was at tallahassee it was fsu at the time and i was reading like a men's health or might have been like gerard butler's 300 workout one of those things. And it was like he did. It wasn't a handstand because it was like I did use the wall. So it was like you roll up to the wall and then you press up. Yeah. So I was in the FSU gym one day and I was like, I got to try this 300 thing.
Starting point is 01:48:37 So I did it properly where I didn't go to the fucking floor. I went to the stairwell and I did it under the bottom stairs okay so you didn't do this though no no i harry pottered it and i fucking got up once and then immediately dropped on my head i was gonna say that that's a the real reason you shouldn't do that is because you will break your fucking neck because it is like the hardest thing to do. Like literally I tried one time, fell on my head, never tried again. Yeah. I mean, it's like being like, oh, let me try a backflip. It's like, no, you're going to fucking land on your goddamn head.
Starting point is 01:49:16 There's got to be a story behind it. There's more to this tale. Yeah, there's got to be like he lost a bet. Somebody was watching. He's doing it on purpose, trying trying to make you laugh i don't know what it is but that is that would get me to go to the gym that that like she said i stay away from men like that that guy to me is like the the the harmless guy at the gym yeah you know it's like i i was hoping that was gonna end in a love story because i think that would be fucking hilarious to be like what are you doing dude you're like i don't know i'm trying to try to do some hands this well like at the gym you see that every day yeah yeah what
Starting point is 01:49:53 is that person doing the thing is people go to the gym like like if you go to the gym regularly you know what you're doing the people who go to the gym who don't know what they're doing are desperate to be in shape and just get like like i i can just lift i can run i can you know what i mean you don't want to be the guy like like if i if i went to the gym right now i like i remember shane talking about doing like when he started getting in shape he was doing like step ups on like a box like this big and he was like it was the most like mortifying thing you want to just be like yeah i'll just jump on like the big box it's like you can't bro you're fucking fat and out of shape you're you don't know what you're doing you know so it's like the people who are like i'll just bench like you know put fucking 225 on there it's like no man you should start with the bar so if you apply that to
Starting point is 01:50:36 uh like this dude wants to be able to do handstands yeah yeah that's so small i guess go to little kid school a little a little gymboree but are they weird because there's always one weird guy at the gym are they like peacocking or is it just like
Starting point is 01:50:51 they're just unhinged I mean again this guy's awesome I want to separate this guy from the regular asshole gym people this guy's great I personally
Starting point is 01:50:59 red flags abound I wouldn't date him but he's awesome falling over and be like damn it oh fuck I keep trying it's so goddamn funny's awesome. Falling over and be like, damn it. Oh, keep trying.
Starting point is 01:51:05 It's so goddamn funny. Uh, yeah, I think the rest of them are like, just delusional. So weird. Like, I think they,
Starting point is 01:51:13 yeah, you can't like admit like, or you don't want to just be like lifting lightweight or like, I saw a guy can only run this low, like benching. He had like a 45 and a 25 on each side. And he was going like an inch down and then back up and an inch down and back up and then in between sets and the only reason i saw this is i
Starting point is 01:51:30 was waiting for the bench and in between sets he was just like taking selfies and i so badly want to go to him be like you want me to take that for you yeah just like there's not like there's nothing more humiliating than someone seeing you take a selfie and I want them to know I saw it. I saw what the fuck you were doing wasting my goddamn time. Yep. I'll film you while you do those reps you're doing, right?
Starting point is 01:51:56 I was going to make you feel small. I just wanted to say, hey, I'll hold that camera for you. Yeah. That's like if you if you don't have the if you're too insecure to be like
Starting point is 01:52:09 I can only lift fucking the 25s you wanna have the 45s on the it was like literally he was like just bending his arm back up
Starting point is 01:52:15 just bending it just fucking get off the good for you all that good stuff but like that's not what bothered me what bothered me was the selfie
Starting point is 01:52:24 the selfie was like get the fuck off the bench there was a you know by the way I gotta give a shout out to Joey Swole Joey Swole
Starting point is 01:52:32 is just still out here making videos about people being inappropriate not a thing we do anymore it was like a
Starting point is 01:52:41 six month fad John it is he is still going strong it's not crazy viral there was a yeah yeah yeah like i think even by barcelona account like jim hardos or whatever like that time has passed but he i i it's it's the most commitment to a bit i've ever seen in my life it's like he he he knows that's where his bread his bread is buttered and i'm sure he you know maybe it's not crazy viral but but I'm sure it still does whatever he needs, makes money or generates followers or whatever. I can't imagine doing that as many times as he does.
Starting point is 01:53:16 It cuts to him. It's the same thing every time because when are we going to stop doing this? When you stop making these videos bro if you stop they'll probably stop like it's the it's legitimately the same reaction every time the gym is not your personal space when are we going to realize that we need to share this thing every time but there was the last one i saw as i say this it was an interesting one this girl was hitting the bag and this dude just came up on the other side of the bag and started hitting it like she would take like a kick kick kick punch punch punch like a quick pause before she like did another move and he would just like start hitting it like
Starting point is 01:53:54 it was his turn she she just waited it out i was like that's fucking crazy to do that but shout out to joey swole this should be like gym. Like I do feel like there's a lot of like – If there was like a black mirror social score at the gym, a lot of that shit would stop I think. Oh, yeah. If it was like – I think most of it is from people who don't know better. Well, it's two different things. Like when a guy like looks at you, it's like – I don't know, man.
Starting point is 01:54:23 Like people are – you're in public. People have eyeballs. Yeah, I don't know. You were bending over doing a squat and a guy looks at you, it's like, I don't know, man. You're in public. People have eyeballs. Yeah, I don't know. You were bending over doing a squat and a guy looked at you. If he's creeping around you and leering around you, that's different. But I think things like gym etiquette as far as what you do with the – like wiping down your shit and fucking what do you do with the weights and all that stuff. If there was like a score, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:54:42 Like you have to pay more a month or you can't come in if you do this. Like all that shit would stop real fucking quick. Shame is the ultimate motivator. I had one time I was on the incline bench and a girl came in front of me and just started stretching. I could have painted that ceiling. Well, yeah. That's the other thing too. Not with cum.
Starting point is 01:55:01 I mean like – Yeah, for those just listening listening john looked up at the ceiling not talking about dick but it was it was like to the point where i was like i think she's doing some purpose yeah it was so crazy well that's the other side of it so yeah you sat and i was already sitting here you sat there and you're like it was like the like leg spreading like the leaning back you know what i mean like you know the pose i'm kind of putting yeah yeah and i was just like what the fuck is going on this is this is like entrapment right now this is nuts speaking of pain in the ceiling um did you see bob fox at uh pop punk no it was the first time
Starting point is 01:55:36 he ever addressed the crowd like frankie gets on the mic roan's front man everybody has like all like the sung or like shouted out to the crowd never never bob fox and for whatever reason he like kind of got near the mic and roan was like oh my god is he about to do it like is bob fox about to address the crowd so they all start kind of like cheering him on and they're like it was like a moment like waiting for like what is he gonna say and he just kind of uh what do you say he said something like, he just put his hand up and he goes, good evening. And it was like very funny. And everyone kind of laughed.
Starting point is 01:56:08 But he said, he almost yelled, no cum out of this dick. And he was like, we were just joking about how many people in the crowd would not know the reference. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Probably two people would have got it. Like, fuck yeah. The rest of the people would have cheered and not know why they're cheering. I'd just be like, that was weird. Bob said, no cum out of this dick, right? What a rock star, yeah. Probably two people would have got it. Like, fuck yeah. The rest of the people would have cheered and not know why they're cheering. I'd just be like, that was weird. Bob said, I'm coming to this dick, right?
Starting point is 01:56:28 What a rock star, man. Ridiculous. That might be the most ridiculous moment in Barstool history when I think about it. We had like a kid, like he just turned 18. Yeah. We had a boy who was barely legal and we were monitoring his semen yeah fucking crazy dude like i i at the time i never really thought about it like i don't know his parents and shit must have been like yeah what are we doing here all's well that ends well
Starting point is 01:57:01 but boy that was a it was a strange time personal history all right let's get into our interview now uh this dude harold parano from lost oz sons of anarchy and the new show from this guy was great he was fucking awesome every time there's like a like a talented person and they're like a new yorker they're always fucking awesome when i saw he was from Brooklyn and he came in and was like acting like that
Starting point is 01:57:26 I was like fuck yeah this guy is great so if you're into any of those shows into television at all a lot of great stuff from him
Starting point is 01:57:32 so you know him as Michael from Lost and now if you're watching from he's Boyd so Harold Perrineau on KFC Radio let's talk to him
Starting point is 01:57:41 alright we're wrapping up the KFC Radio Suits episode here brought to you by Express. I feel like we've looked pretty sharp. I feel like I even, you know, you look good, you feel good,
Starting point is 01:57:52 you perform better. I've been more in my own head than I've ever been. Really? Oh, God. You've been thinking about it the whole time? The entire time.
Starting point is 01:57:58 No way. What? Yeah, you look good. You're such a crazy person. What's happened is we got dressed and I haven't looked at me. I have no idea how I look. I have not looked at me. You look great. You're such a crazy person. What's happened is we got dressed and I haven't looked in the mirror. I have no idea how I look.
Starting point is 01:58:06 I have not looked in the mirror. You look great. You're rocking a fucking Express Modern Tech suit. They are everyday wearable. This suit obviously looks great, but I don't know how everything's hanging on my body. I didn't know this about me. I got to look in the mirror before I let the world see me. I have no idea what I look like.
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Starting point is 02:00:08 Super pumped to have Harold Perrineau in here. You have a resume, my man, that is pretty fucking good. I'm old, man. You're a long time. I don't mean this in a rude way. You look great for your age. Thank you, man. I mean, I guess we shouldn't play this game, but how old do you think he is?
Starting point is 02:00:26 He's a tough one. He's a tough one. All right, I'm going to guess. Let's see. I'm going to put real thought into this. Lost was 2004 start, something like that. I'm going to guess you were 27 then. Okay.
Starting point is 02:00:40 So I'm going to go 47. Whoa. Absolutely wrong. Hit him. I just turned 61 this year. So I'm going to go 47. Whoa. Absolutely wrong. Hit him. I just turned 61 this year. No way. And that's the response I like.
Starting point is 02:00:53 You know what, brother? You're all this. Black dog. Black dog. I just saw it today. I saw the six. I was like, no. There must be a mistake.
Starting point is 02:01:03 No, no. I feel like that too. Sometimes I go like, wait, let me look at my birth certificate again. See, I'm not exactly sure. Are you, I mean, you look like you're in good shape. Actually, you look like, I feel like maybe it's because of the jackets in from, but Boyd looked a little heftier.
Starting point is 02:01:19 Boyd is, yeah. Were you bigger? Did you trim down? Or is that just... Boyd is a little bigger. He's an ex-military guy. He was about to retire. He's just kind of like, you know, he's just more of a burly guy. And then when I come back home and I'm like in jiu-jitsu and all that stuff, the bigger I am, the younger guys are just killing me. I just run out of breath.
Starting point is 02:01:40 I try to put my weight on them and then they just spin around. So then I have to slim down a little bit. So at least that cuts up a little bit. You're a Jiu-Jitsu guy? Yes, yes. Is that a new thing? When did you start that? Years ago.
Starting point is 02:01:55 Like before it was a craze kind of thing? Well after the first UFC. Got it. Well after that. Maybe 10 years after that. And then I started, and I went up to Henzo Got it. Like, well after that. Like, maybe 10 years after that. And then I started and I went up to Henzo's school. Yeah, yeah. And I tried it there for a little while.
Starting point is 02:02:11 But I was always in and out because, you know, like, I got kids to feed. So I had to work a lot. So I was always in and out. Did you find that changed you, like, as a person? What's that? Like, just jiu-jitsu and combat sports and stuff like that. We always hear about how, like, it makes you so much more confident and stuff like that.
Starting point is 02:02:28 Did you feel like it made you walk into a room and you're like, I'm that dude? Well, I never feel like I'm that dude, especially not with you guys. I'm not a purple sweater. Don't worry. But martial arts in general did that for me. So before jiu-jitsu, it was boxing and kung fu and all this other stuff because I was always such a, like a little dude in my neighborhood. And that actually helped me feel like I could defend myself.
Starting point is 02:02:55 So you could throw hands. You could fuck people up. Well, I'm 61, so I can throw about three minutes and then, like, that's kind of, if I don't win after that, it's just like do what you want. You might be 61, but I guarantee if you check like real body age, you're the youngest person in the city. Guaranteed. Guaranteed, bro. You can take us together probably.
Starting point is 02:03:16 I'm just going to have to take you away from that. We got to talk about so many things okay but i do want to lead off with probably i think maybe a little bit of a less talked about role oh but um i think damon pope oh i think damon pope is one of the most villainous depraved motherfuckers on television we do a lot of like drafts and top ten lists and that kind of content here. We do villains on TV. And I remember being like,
Starting point is 02:03:50 you know, Damon Pope, if you don't know about it, what he did to Tig's daughter. Yeah. That stuck with me. I'll just think about that on random days when Tig's tied up and like, no, no.
Starting point is 02:04:02 I get goosebumps. I'm like, that was fucked up. That was fucked up and then when they kill opie i still hear this that's one of those shows man so beloved guy like like so many guys watched all 900 seasons this story i've told countless times but when i when i started watching that show with my roommate i was living in boston at the time, and we both loved it. But he had a real job.
Starting point is 02:04:27 I did this for a living so I could stay up all night. So he would go to bed. We'd watch three episodes. He'd go to bed at 11 p.m. I'd watch three more. But then I wouldn't have the heart to tell him. So I would watch. You would watch three episodes.
Starting point is 02:04:38 I'd watch the next two the next night. You'd double watch the show. I'd double watch the show. That's wild. You really did like the show. I don't want to spoil it for him because we're enjoying this. It's a bonding moment. But I can't stop watching either.
Starting point is 02:04:51 Jax gets on the motorcycle. Never mind. Never mind. You'll see. But I mean, you got it. No, but David Pope was villainous. He was bad. I mean, that's like a, you know, it's all acting.
Starting point is 02:05:04 But I don't know. I feel like you got to go to a different place when you're setting daughters on fire. No, here's the thing. I think about it all the time. And people ask me, like, is that hard to do? And I was like, actually, it's not. It's not even hard to think about because what happens, and I got girls myself. Right.
Starting point is 02:05:20 If I were in Damon Pope's shoes and someone killed my daughter for nothing, sitting in a restaurant, and I had the kind of access that he has, burning her, you're kidding. It might be the nicest thing I'm going to do. So I had to take it from that place like what would a dad feel about somebody killing his daughter and then a dad with the kind of access and the aptitude that Damon has like what would that do and then all of it didn't seem so
Starting point is 02:05:56 hard at all and then people were like yeah that must have been crazy I was like nah not really I'll fuck you up be careful with this man I'm not setting anybody on fire crazy i was like no not really but yeah it's it's heartbreaking and we really used um it was really practical we used an actual stunt person to light on fire yeah and so that actually that that that's shocking yeah yeah it's shocking it's shocking. It's like, they're like, you ready? And she's like, yeah.
Starting point is 02:06:26 I'm like, wait, are you really ready? Yeah. Are you sure this is your career choice? I don't know if you maybe. You know what fire is, right? You should have another job. She was great, man. When you use a stunt person, are you still the one who lights the flame, or do they have
Starting point is 02:06:40 kind of a professional do that? They had a professional throw the match in and then shoot me looking in ah yeah yeah yeah yeah just because you don't get you don't get to scratch that it's like i wonder what's like the lights i wouldn't want to get that yeah their whole team is there to make sure it's really really safe but uh it is it is uh frightening to see and then you know uh watching kim do that and kim is great that was great i mean it's really, really safe. But it is frightening to see. And then, you know, watching Kim do that. And Kim is great. Yeah, that was great.
Starting point is 02:07:08 I mean, it's one of the, you know, I know Sons is kind of a, it's like a guy soap opera type of shoot-em-up show, but like in those moments, there's some real fucking acting going on. If you don't believe those guys, then the show doesn't work, right? If you don't believe that, you know.
Starting point is 02:07:21 Right, he was great. Yeah, yeah. And Kim's got those crazy eyes. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, those eyes. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, those crazy blue eyes, they're just so blue. I remember when he met my daughter, I was a little like, hey, Kim. Take it easy, man.
Starting point is 02:07:32 Back up. He wasn't doing anything. You just get nervous. You start seeing the character. It's crazy, but I love him, dude. He's great. They're all great. I mean, as great as Sons was, I mean, you got Oz.
Starting point is 02:07:44 Got Oz. Lost. A lot of craziness. Out from. I mean, like great as Sons was, I mean, you got Oz. Got Oz. Lost. A lot of creations. I mean, like, those are, you know, you have four at minimum all time shows. Yeah, yeah. I feel like if you get on one of those, you're, like, had a career lucky. And you got, you know, major roles on all of them. That's what I say.
Starting point is 02:07:58 I count myself as very lucky all the time. So you have to tell me now your favorite one and rank them in order of importance. Okay, here we go. Ready? Don't anybody offend it. No. I feel like oz though um oz you know we're living in what i think is like a television golden age right and and even probably like 10 years ago was really like sopranos and breaking bad and everything at its peak right but like a lot of people always say oz was that first one
Starting point is 02:08:22 right that hbo drama that was like holy shit this That HBO drama that was like, holy shit, this is real acting. It's not a TV show. Like, this is as good as any major movie. It's just that you watch it week to week. Right. So I feel like that's got to be pretty cool to be a part of. Actually, if I'm going to be honest, it actually is my favorite one. And only because it really was the first hour-long drama on television, on cable television.
Starting point is 02:08:48 They only had, like at that time, they had two comedies on them, one Larry Sanders show, and then they had something else. And so then we were the first hour-long drama. And HBO, to their credit, they would come and watch us shoot stuff, like Chris Maloney would be there, and some guy would go down on him, and he'd snap his neck, and they'd go. The executives would walk up, and they'd go, okay. And they just walked out.
Starting point is 02:09:16 We signed a form. That's what I mean. It really did pave the way for that shit. It was like you're going to see language, violence, sex, crazy, and then it all went from there. Yeah. I was talking to
Starting point is 02:09:29 somebody recently and I was saying like, again, Oz is one of those shows they really set up the stakes really well. That first season we had a character
Starting point is 02:09:37 in the very first episode that everyone loved, like right in the very first episode. And at the end of the episode, they set him on fire. In his cell.
Starting point is 02:09:47 I really feel like when shows do that, it sets the tone. It sets the tone, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not like a money grab. We're not worried about ratings. None of it. We have a fucking story and we're telling it. Yeah. You know?
Starting point is 02:09:58 Yeah, we didn't have to worry about any of that. Yeah, that's great. And then we wound up for a while just being like, oh, you're one of those wacky actor guys from Oz. So it was hard to get a job. It wasn't really. Were people like, you know, turned off by it?
Starting point is 02:10:11 They were just like, they were like, oh, you guys do that whatever wild thing that is over there. And so like, we were still in the heyday of network television.
Starting point is 02:10:20 Right. So they were like, I don't think we have anything for you. And I'm like, no, I'm an actor. Like, that was, we're playing. This is not real.
Starting point is 02:10:28 But do you feel now that, like, do you get revered for being a part of us? Yeah, people now, yeah, they do that. I hope you got your just due. I can understand. That's what happens when you're ahead of your time, right? People are like, holy shit, I don't know what to do with this. And then it turns out to be like, this was one of the greatest pieces of entertainment ever. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:10:44 So I'd be really lucky about it do you guys it's actually funny i i've been calculating your age i made the mistake of forgetting oz uh but i was reading an article recently about like the 10 most important shows in hbo history and one was i actually forget one two was inside the nfl and uh three was larry saunders and then i believe oz was four oh and it was because it said the same type thing where it was like it was the first hour long yada yada. Do you like look at HBO now or premium television now and you're like, I helped build that shit. Every once in a while I go, you're welcome. You're welcome.
Starting point is 02:11:22 It's true though. I don't know If Oz bombed Or you guys sucked Right Who literally knows Where television goes Exactly And that's all the credit
Starting point is 02:11:30 To Tom Fontana While I love being a part of it That's all the credit To the writer Tom Fontana It was his idea It was his baby And we just got to
Starting point is 02:11:39 Roll along for the ride Yeah for sure But sometimes A day laborer Drives by a mansion And goes I fucking put that thing up Well that's kind of How it feels Yeah, for sure. But sometimes a day laborer drives by a mansion and goes, I fucking put that thing up.
Starting point is 02:11:48 Well, that's kind of how it feels. I'm sure he could say, I'm sure he'd say, I wrote a story, but I can't act and it wouldn't come to life without me. It's kind of like sports and coaching and building a team versus the guys who do it. There's a reason why it all kind of comes together. I remember back in the day, I was a kid, and this is going to be really long. I remember the first time I saw my dad. Way back in the day, like 100 years ago. Yeah, 100 years ago.
Starting point is 02:12:12 I rode my horse over to the state. No, I remember the first time I saw Dr. J do this layup from behind the wheel. Yeah, he went under the back of the horse. I was like, wow. And then after that, everybody was like, wait, can we do that? Yeah. No, I really think he does that. I think sports a lot of times has that where it's like certain boundaries that don't get passed. Right.
Starting point is 02:12:33 Certain things you don't do. And then a guy just does it. Like, I'm going to shoot from almost half court. Exactly right. And Steph Curry did it. And everyone was like, wait, what? And now everyone, like little kids are doing it. I was like, wait a minute. It just takes, like little kids are doing it. I was like, wait a minute.
Starting point is 02:12:45 It just takes somebody to show you the way. Yeah, exactly. What's the Will Ferrell movie, the basketball movie? Basketball? No, no. We all know what I'm talking about. When the ref blows a whistle after they dunk, he's like, foul? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:13:03 Two fouls. You can't do that. Yeah. Exactly. Right. It's like that changes the landscape forever. It changes the landscape. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:13:14 So, yeah, I feel lucky to be part of that one. Now, I'm a big fan of From. Yes. I'm watching From. Okay, got it. I love it. Thank you. Yes, I really love it.
Starting point is 02:13:23 I think it's amazing. I think one of the best parts of it is, I'm into like weird sci-fi shit. But I think the dialogue in that show is so real. Got it. The last episode I just watched is you and, I forget, I love the show, but I always forget the names.
Starting point is 02:13:37 The woman who runs Colony House. Donna. She played the character Donna. The way you guys were arguing and you were like, I get it. It's just, okay. And she was like wow that was
Starting point is 02:13:56 very very real dialogue yeah as as crazy as that show is uh there's something very real about it where it's like that's what a person in this fucked up weird world would be acting like. Exactly, yeah. John is a great writer. I just need, right now though, I need to know
Starting point is 02:14:11 and I need you to make me this promise that we land the plane on this one. The plane will be landed. I've heard from the writers and the showrunners that have said like, the connection to Lost is the same.
Starting point is 02:14:27 Our show, our executive director is Jack Bender right yes and Jeff Pinkner was one of the writers on the second season about he comes from that JJ Abrams camp got it like yeah and so I feel like I've heard from them that like don't worry we have like a plan yeah it's gonna go somewhere yes like it fucking better
Starting point is 02:14:42 I guarantee you and I'm saying this like i really know the truth is i asked them not to tell me oh okay i just asked them are you gonna land the plane i literally asked that they were like a hundred percent when we sold the show we wouldn't even we wouldn't take an offer we wouldn't tell them the ending until we got an offer. And so lots of people liked the show, but they were like, well, tell us the ending. And they're like, make us the offer.
Starting point is 02:15:09 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what you know you got some good shit done. Exactly. So they are going to land the plane. They keep saying it over and over and over. And I'm just choosing to trust them. I'm shocked by season three now
Starting point is 02:15:20 from is like, we keep adding. It's new characters and new storylines and i'm like that's got that's a lot to manage yeah you are gonna land the plane and tie it all together but yeah this year the monsters are really mean they're cruel dude leaving that guy half dead on the half dead this was like when they when they put the tan chair exactly yeah maybe that's the end of the podcast this is my idea
Starting point is 02:15:46 how do you like my town I mean I say that you know like Lost is one of my
Starting point is 02:15:54 favorite shows ever I do think towards the end they kind of didn't land the plane I do think the pendulum swung too far the other
Starting point is 02:16:01 direction go back and watch it I think it's amazing it's like we just kind of I'm sure there was corporate stuff and bureaucratic bullshit whatever but like lost at its peak i think is one of my favorite things ever right but there did i think after lost and a couple other shows even the sopranos ending there is this thing on tv now like you better like we say yes exactly did you do you feel that like as an actor where like being a part of lost and then doing something else,
Starting point is 02:16:25 was that something you care about, or did you think it ended poorly? No, I really, really cared about it. When I first read the script, and I was like, well, let me start off like this. They knew Jack Bender and Jeff Pinkner and John Griffin, who's the writer, and it was his first show, right? They knew there were going to be a million comparisons to Lost. They knew it from the very beginning. So originally, when they were casting, they were were like we don't want anybody from lost right we don't want anyone at all from lost and so my buddy who's the casting director
Starting point is 02:16:53 is like i don't know i think i think harold is the guy and they were like we don't want to and so i can understand that thinking yeah yeah they were like we don't want to and then i read it and then i talked to them again. I was like, I don't know. I think I might be the guy. You're that dude. I think I am. And they were like, well, maybe. And so we always knew that, right? That being said, we actually have the fortune, like we did in Oz,
Starting point is 02:17:16 to have a young network that's like, do what you want. So MGM is letting us do the show that we want to do, and that's how we're getting away with some of the stuff. So there's a lot of cursing sometimes, and like you said, that dialogue. But we don't have anybody that we have to worry about sponsors, and we've got to worry about fixing this, or that, or elongated so that we have a lot more.
Starting point is 02:17:37 We have about a certain amount of seasons. Can you give me that number? I almost said it. Is it over or under twice the amount you have out right now it is it is it is okay so it is under the amount we have not that's good i think that's good because i think that's what what i mean i'm speaking i've never been in the industry but i feel like what happens is you have a hit right and you have xyz episodes left, and then the sponsors and shit are like, we want triple that. You're trying to meet somewhere in the middle, and you fuck it up.
Starting point is 02:18:09 And then you have an episode about somebody fixing the crease in their pants. What are you talking about? What does the Lost cast think of the Nicky and Paolo episode from Lost? They just disappeared, right? They were just gone. It was crazy. It was just an hour of television with two people who were not on the show but i i i wholeheartedly agree with all that in in dramas and things like that but i saw someone say the other day where it was like we
Starting point is 02:18:40 had to bring back meaningless episodes for comedies. Yeah. Yeah. Every comedy now it's like the bear where you're like, is it a comedy? And like everything, everything's like a plot line. Right. Whereas like, I think this example was like, there was an episode of friends where Joey just played baseball all day.
Starting point is 02:18:55 Right. And he never touched the ball again. Why did it have anything to do with anything? Yeah. I think that, yeah, I think you're right. You just turn your brain off and you're like,
Starting point is 02:19:04 yeah, I don't know. Like the episodes were 30 seasons long, 25 seasons long. That's crazy. 25 episodes. That really, I mean, Lost was, yeah, 20, what, two episodes? 22 episodes, 24 sometimes. That is so much more than, you know, nowadays it's like 10 max.
Starting point is 02:19:21 I mean, The Diplomat just came out, season two just came out, six episodes. That's like, you know, a quarter of a season of Lost. They're great. Don't get me wrong. It's like six episodes. It's like watching an extended movie.
Starting point is 02:19:33 Right. Exactly. And that's really good because you know it's going to start and it's going to end. Yeah, I got it. What do you think birthed all that? Because I know the BBC used to be like that.
Starting point is 02:19:42 Like BBC was always like, I watched Luther and like Luther has, I think season four is two episodes long. Two episodes? Wow. Just make a move. Go ahead. But I did always respect that about the BBC shows
Starting point is 02:19:54 where they were just like, we don't know how long the story is, but that's how many episodes we're going to be. Whatever great story we came up with this year, if it's a two-hour story or if it's an eight-hour story, whatever it may be. And I always thought that was cool until every show started doing it i was like i want some length i want to dig into a show yeah yeah i think there's a couple of factors there like one the
Starting point is 02:20:13 streaming like orange is the new black i think was the first one just like put all the episodes out and then everybody started binging that that first thing that you see oh we can binge it all like but you you don't want to binge 24. Yeah. That's one. And then the other thing, I think, is the thing we were talking about. I think at some point, even the writers were like, we're diluting our stories because, oh, you guys want more to sell more Johnson & Johnson baby powder.
Starting point is 02:20:39 Nothing against Johnson & Johnson baby powder. We love it. Get that money. Speaking of sponsors, get some Sable in here that was really good I learned from the best that was really good I didn't even think
Starting point is 02:20:55 of that and it's my thing so Sable Bourbon yes you said you linked up with your buddy like your friends my buddy's just
Starting point is 02:21:02 so I'm in the movie a couple of movies called The Best Man The The Best Man Holiday, and then we have The Best Man Final Chapters. So it's me, it's Morris Chestnut, Taye Diggs, and the writer of them, Malcolm D. Lee. And in order to get a chance to work together again, we came together to do this bottle. To get rich. To get rich and a little drunk on the way.
Starting point is 02:21:23 I like this catchphrase here, bottled in brotherhood. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it really is about our friendship and the time we work together and all that stuff. And so it's delicious. It's a little bit early, but do you want to start drinking? I'm not going to, but you can. I got one more. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:21:42 But you're going to love it. We'll do a taste test for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I you're going to love it. We'll do a taste test for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm telling you, it's beautiful, it's smooth, and what we're interested in doing is creating more community, man, like sharing it with our friends and our family and holidays. I think you're going to love it. You get a new episode of From and pop a bottle.
Starting point is 02:21:58 Well, the first couple of episodes of From, I was doing a lot of drug tweeting. Oh, my God, did you see what just happened? They killed Tenjen! I was about to say, I'm chronically on the internet all the time. And I'm a big TV junkie. I have not seen an
Starting point is 02:22:15 internet reaction quite like Tenjen since, I don't know, the big deaths of television. The from community were crushed. I mean, spoiler alert, you know, the big deaths of television. It's brutal. The Frum community were, they were crushed. I mean, spoiler alert,
Starting point is 02:22:28 but there was a death in the show. Oh, sorry, right, yeah. And this character. It was brutal. I was like, I felt it watching it and then I hopped on Twitter and I was like, oh, everybody felt this shit.
Starting point is 02:22:37 Yeah, no, it's a brutal one. That was a tough one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's what I asked. The sun and the note. Oh, man. Yeah, yeah. It is good.
Starting point is 02:22:44 Yeah, yeah. The whole thing is so. The sun and the note. Oh, man. Yeah, yeah. It is good. Yeah, yeah. The whole thing is so brutal. And so who are the fans really felt it? Who do you think? I mean, Boyd is a real stand-up motherfucker. He's a good dude. I think so. And I feel like Michael was kind of like a misunderstood.
Starting point is 02:23:02 I think so. You know, he's doing what he needed to do for his son right but then crossed some lines right so i was thinking the other day about like what if you drop michael into the from town yeah like how he would like i think i think michael was a stand-up dude i think like he didn't know what to do with this kid like i always think of michael as a guy who just got screwed over like look he was with his girl and then she was like ah, ah, you're a loser, so I'm going to leave you, and I'm going someplace else. It's like, you know, sometimes you're in the, you know,
Starting point is 02:23:29 you don't have a job. I've been there. You don't have a job. And so, actually, I might have some with you. She brought it, actually. And then he goes to get his kid, and the guy's like, the dad, the stepdad is like, yeah, I can't take care of him.
Starting point is 02:23:52 It's like, oh, this is crazy. And he takes his kid, and then you get in a plane crash, you know, on an island, and somebody snatches the kid. It's crazy. It is such a funny thing to be like, I don't like the way this person's acting in this insane situation. I would never do that.
Starting point is 02:24:13 He's being kind of a jerk, right guys? He's like, what are you talking about? There's smoke monsters and polar bears. Reality doesn't count out here. Exactly. Well, cheers, gentlemen. To a great career, man gentlemen to a great career man to a great career and a great yeah i hope you guys love disabled because i really do oh yeah really good oh yeah you like that that was like that was like me guessing 47 then 61
Starting point is 02:24:39 and i was like oh hang on a second here. Right, that little after thing. Were you involved in this process? Because we put out a bottle of rye a couple years ago. We went up to Whistlepig Farm, and we did the whole taste testing. And I don't know what I'm talking about, but I know what I like and don't like, and kind of talked through all that. Did you do that whole process? We did the whole process, because in the movies, The Best Man, we always drink when we're commuting, when we're playing cards, when there's somebody who has trouble.
Starting point is 02:25:12 It's always some sort of brown alcohol, right? And so when we went to Bespoken, who was our distiller, we were like, we want to do something in the brown. So we tried the ryes. We tried straight whiskeys. We tried bourbons. We did them all. And then this was the one
Starting point is 02:25:25 that we were all like, that one. Yeah. That one right there. I don't know exactly what words to use, but that's the one. Exactly, but that's the one.
Starting point is 02:25:34 And we all were in agreement and they were like, of course you picked that one. That's a great one. It's really good. Yeah, right. You know, there have been a lot of times on this show
Starting point is 02:25:43 where I try something and I'm like, this is the best. Go buy it. This is a real one. It's really good. This is really good. There have been a lot of times on this show where I try something and I'm like, this is the best. Go buy it. This is a real one. This is really good. And some of the cocktails that we make are great. They're really... Old-fashioned and whatnot? Do you drink it straight? How do you take it?
Starting point is 02:25:56 I do them all, actually. I drink it straight a lot. I drink it on the rocks. And I also like, because I have a lot of friends who are a little scared of bourbon. And so we got a bunch of different cocktails that we make, some with coffee and some with blueberry. Like, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:26:09 Just like we can do a whiskey sour with a bourbon. You know, that's dope. It's a good business to be in, the alcohol game, because that ain't ever going away. It ain't. It's not going to go away.
Starting point is 02:26:19 No acting comes and goes. Exactly. Getting drunk. Always. We were just talking about some of your characters and I've always wondered with actors,
Starting point is 02:26:30 do you have a specific role where you were like, that was fucking easy? I didn't even have to try. This character is just me. I didn't even have to act here. Not yet. I feel like you would be
Starting point is 02:26:43 a Boyd type of guy. Oh, do you? I don't know. I just met you would be a Boyd type of guy oh do you I just met you but if shit if say right now shit went south and like the zombies start knocking on the door I think I would go what do we do I've got some experience guys
Starting point is 02:27:00 TV experience but let's see you can go all the way yeah I don't know. Look, I try to take stuff from my life and bring it to the characters. And Lost was kind of the only one because we really didn't know what we were going to shoot
Starting point is 02:27:18 and I hadn't worked like that. Some of Michael's instincts are really just my instincts because I just didn't know, but I wouldn't say that Michael is me, right? Right. But I can't say that there's anything that
Starting point is 02:27:29 is so me. What about Michael? Like just like fatherhood and like you're a Brooklyn guy, right? Yeah, yeah. Did you live here for a while
Starting point is 02:27:38 or did you live I'm assuming you live I live in LA after Oz after I did Oz and then I did The Matrix and then like somehow
Starting point is 02:27:46 filming wasn't happening here as much so we moved to LA but so you did a huge chunk of your life in New York I'm from New York
Starting point is 02:27:52 like you consider yourself a New Yorker yeah right Brooklyn Brooklyn but that's what I mean like
Starting point is 02:27:58 I know it's probably cliche a little bit corny and I'm sure people outside of New York like roll their eyes but I do think like when you're acting or doing a role like that there's probably some of that new york in you yeah yeah yeah my fucking son i gotta talk my kid exactly exactly exactly
Starting point is 02:28:14 right that comes up and so and i bring some of those those things to it and so yeah yeah yeah every once in a while even in in the first season of From, I said to Donna, we were doing the ceremony for them to choose the rocks or whatever, and Donna is talking, I go, shut the fuck up. That's what I'm talking about, that shit. And a lady there went, ooh, like that. And I was like, oh, what happened? And my dad was like, yeah, I know that.
Starting point is 02:28:41 That sounds exactly like you. I was like, oh, does it? Yeah, my wife was like, yeah, does it? Yes. Yeah. My wife was like, yeah. Exactly what I'm talking about. Exactly. You bring a thing up. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:28:51 You don't even recognize it, but that's... Fuck up. Fuck up. But somehow, it feels like from Brooklyn. Can you give me anything from... Well, actually, you can, because you don't know the ending, right? I actually don't know the ending. Can you give me what on from like i mean well actually you can because you don't know where you don't know the ending right i actually don't know can you give me what your guess is then like that like we can talk so many of these things i feel like everybody already go or automatically goes to
Starting point is 02:29:16 they're dead right they're in purgatory that's a big thing and lost right right and then there's always the like that always is the kind of a theme because there was that show, what was the other one that was so good but so bad that they had a plane crash? Oh. Manifest. Manifest. Same thing. I always called it Pages. Like, Pages?
Starting point is 02:29:38 So people automatically go there, you know? Like, what do you think is going on? So here's what I do know. They're not dead and we're not in purgatory. Confirmed. Confir going on so i here's what i do know they're not dead and we're not in purgatory so confirmed confirmed absolutely we're not dead we're not in purgatory so that's that's what i do know um i i also know that there that we are only at the tip of the iceberg for whatever these things are wow that that season three we're starting to get to know whatever this place is. And so that being said, my guess is it's always been some type of experiment.
Starting point is 02:30:15 But there also might be some kind of time continuum. Well, the thing about you can't get out, like physically can't get out, makes me think there's some sort of sci-fi thing. Yeah, there's some sort of sci-fi time. If you were just trapped in a town because someone wasn't letting you leave i would think it's like an experiment like uh with the m night shiloh monger with the village right yeah that was just like they're choosing to keep you trapped right but if there is like you physically cannot get out of this town by driving in one direction right
Starting point is 02:30:40 right gotta be some kind of a triangle shit time travel yeah yeah yeah's the stuff I like, so I get nerdy with that. Yeah, yeah. And so I'm really curious to see if that's what it is, if it's also some kind of science loop. Do other actors know? Nobody knows. Nobody knows. Nobody knows.
Starting point is 02:30:54 If you wanted to know, would you be allowed to know? I would. That's the perks of being late? You've seen the poster, right? Yeah. I could ask them. That's me. That's great.
Starting point is 02:31:09 But no. So that's a lot of, I feel like, if that was me, I would ask. See, would you? I think I would like to believe that I would be like, no, I want to be like the viewer and i wanted to be surprised and for the craft and all that and then like after like two weeks i'd be like you gotta tell me yeah i remember seeing a clip of uh brian cranston talking about breaking bad and and vince gilligan made the decision they only get one episode at a time and he was talking about how much he loved that because when he's doing the scene with jesse where he's got the gun to his head and he's like if you think I could
Starting point is 02:31:46 do this if you think I could poison a boy pull it he didn't think he did it and then like three episodes later he's like oh my god I did it right and that's awesome and that's the reason that's exactly the reason because subconsciously
Starting point is 02:32:02 if you know the ending or if you know the thing you'll be like if you think I didn't do it go ahead you'll do one little thing and somebody goes oh did he do it he might know something and I don't ever want anybody to think that I know that
Starting point is 02:32:16 if something goes left and Boyd is somehow a bad guy or a villain I'm going to be crushed listen I went through however many goddamn seasons of Game of Thrones rooting for Jon Snow's ass to just have him not pay off at all.
Starting point is 02:32:34 The boy's not the fucking hero in the end. I'm the cool of your boys. We got problems. I was actually surprised that the girl was... Brother, I think everybody else was. You know what? I think she was.
Starting point is 02:32:46 She was. That's the perfect example of like they just, you know, I mean, who knows really what went on. But they were supposed to go on and do Star Wars and the book wasn't finished and, you know, and it all spiraled out of control for them. And they just were like, let's make this beloved character go fucking crazy and burn everyone alive. I don't know. Is that what happened?
Starting point is 02:33:08 Yeah. Well, so, I mean, that's the fans speculating. The two showrunners were chosen to do the next Star Wars that was like coming up. Right.
Starting point is 02:33:16 The author, George R. R. Martin, never finished the books. Got it. And I think there was some like time constraints and some fights with the network about how to wrap it up. And I think they just like
Starting point is 02:33:24 zipped it up real fast. Oh, I didn't even know that. Got it. Do you watch TV? I'm tipsy already. I'm not going to lie. It's early, gentlemen. I had a sip. I was like, oh, I'm sweating
Starting point is 02:33:40 a little bit. I'm sorry. I'm sure your team would love it. You can't bring a bottle of whiskey to two-hour training. We're going to be here all day. Everybody just strap in. Just cancel. Cancel it. Call up the boys.
Starting point is 02:33:53 Get the brotherhood here. We'll all hang out, man. I love it here with you guys. I love it here. This is crazy. Well, you were just saying off-camera that you kind of had this idea of like a laid-back, chilling on your couch and watch sports and shit with the guys. And ESPN said no?
Starting point is 02:34:09 They said no, yeah, years and years and years ago. And I think they probably said no because part of my pitch was I don't know anything about sports. Okay, that might be fair. The worldwide leader in sports might have something to say about that. Right, but the idea was always to have experts on. Right. People who really knew it. But then instead of suits, it was whatever.
Starting point is 02:34:29 Let me tell you something, though, bro. Just sitting and chilling and watching. Let me tell you something about the word experts. All right. There's like one expert. Tom Brady and Patrick Mahomes are telling you about football. Right. Listen to them.
Starting point is 02:34:40 Listen to them. The rest of these guys are just saying, you know. Got it. Got it. You know, everybody, games, win and lose, coin flips. Right. Got it. Got it. You know, there's some people smarter than the others, but when it comes to them. Listen to them. The rest of these guys are just saying, you know. Got it. Got it. You know, everybody, games win and lose, coin flips. Right. Got it. Got it.
Starting point is 02:34:47 You know, there's some people smarter than the others when it comes to sports. See, this is the kind of information that I need. I remember. So it makes sense. Kevin and I were at the Super Bowl once, and we went out to dinner with some of our friends and some people who were producers at CBS. Right. And the producers at CBS were talking to us.
Starting point is 02:35:01 They didn't know us. We were friends with the on-air people. Right. And the producers didn't know us. So they're like, so you guys do sports? And we're like, kind of, but not like you guys. We don't really know what we're talking about. And they go, let us tell you a little secret.
Starting point is 02:35:12 They don't know either. And that's it. And I was like, oh, really? Really. That's awesome. It's all right. Got it. Got it.
Starting point is 02:35:21 It is like, I remember we have a couple Former NFL players who work here And Terrell Luan, I remember him Being like, if you're not in the huddle And heard the play called You can't talk about what was supposed to happen On that play We have five plays that look like this There's 11 moving pieces
Starting point is 02:35:39 It's hard to know what you're talking about Particularly when people like me Are like, well I played high school football So I didn't know What he should have done It's hard to know what you're talking about. Right, right. Particularly when people like me are like, well, I played high school football. So I'm like, fuck that. So what he should have done. That is a different sport entirely than what you're watching. Exactly, exactly.
Starting point is 02:35:53 That's wild. That's wild. Dude, this is a great show. I cannot believe how fast that 45 minutes went. It's over. I know. Is that it? Is that our 45 minutes?
Starting point is 02:36:02 I checked my phone thinking we have 15 more. And it fucking flew. And that was it. I'm trying to think if there's anything else because I was such a Lost fan. I love Sons. Is there anything else we really got to get out of this guy before he leaves?
Starting point is 02:36:12 I want to know a show recommendation. Show recommendation. Yeah, what do you watch? Kevin kind of tells us what I'm watching. What I was watching when I was in
Starting point is 02:36:18 this is really weird. What would give me like a little bit of a respite is Peaky Blinders. Ah. That was pretty heavy for fucking a rabbit though. I Ah. That was pretty heavy. I know.
Starting point is 02:36:26 It was really heavy. We got monsters and stuff like that. Peaky's great. He's great. Peaky is amazing. I think that just wrapped. I think the movie just wrapped. Oh, did they wrap the movie?
Starting point is 02:36:37 I think so, yeah. I could be wrong, but they've certainly been shooting it. Kelly Murphy's so good. Oh, my God. He's good at that. Tom Hardy and all the brothers. So good. Yeah, yeah God, he's good at that. Tom Hardy and all the brothers. So good. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:36:46 Before you go, I mean, what would be next? I mean, From is just prime time cooking. You've got a few more years of that, so you don't have to worry. But is there something you want to do, a movie of some sort, a reunion of some sort, anything? Is there anything left on your resume that you really bucket list type shit? Because you are 61. You really don't have a lot more time, bro.
Starting point is 02:37:12 I know you look good. Here's the thing. I've said it my whole career. Anytime I pick what I want to do, it's never as fun as what shows up. Do you know what I mean? I just let it come because I like to be open to anything and I like to shows up. Do you know what I mean? And so like, I just let it come because I like to be open to anything and I like to try everything. And so if we get to do another Best Man,
Starting point is 02:37:30 that'll be good. If we get to do it drunk, that'll be good. If not, you know what I mean? I have a couple of things that I've been producing. And so we're taking them around and see if those things will happen.
Starting point is 02:37:42 But as far as acting, I actually don't really know. You're like, I'm going to look and see what happens and see what comes up. happen. But as far as acting, I actually don't really know. You're like, I'm going to look and see what happens and see what comes up. Yeah, so just hang out. Dude, it's been a pleasure, man. I really, your resume's top notch.
Starting point is 02:37:52 Thanks, bro. Your shows are great. Thank you, man. I appreciate that. Anytime you want to come and talk about how we don't know about sports and get drunk. What are you doing tomorrow?
Starting point is 02:38:00 My favorite pastime. We're always here, man. I've got three bottles. One for you, one for you. Like Oprah in here. Thank you so much. Thanks, gentlemen. Thank you very much, Harold.
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