KFC Radio - Steve-O & Tank Sinatra: Pranks & Memes

Episode Date: August 11, 2020

Subscribe, Rate, and Leave a Review! -Top 5 TV Shows that were cancelled too soon -Voicemails include girls with accents, snakebites, and too excited for a massage (01:16:17) Steve-O hangs out for over an hour. We discuss his latest comedy special Gnarly (on SteveO.com) where he blends stand up comedy with stunts, pranks, and footage from his life. It's truly a one of a kind stand up special. We discuss how the Jackass crew came together, what he has planned next, and much more. (02:28:30) Tank Sinatra stops by the show to discuss how he became a memelord, being John Krasinski's inspiration for Some Good News, and much more.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/kfcr

Hey, KFC Radio listeners, you can find every episode of KFC Radio on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. There's a strong chance I get arrested again this week. And the sun can't stop us now Watching it come true And taking over you It's another edition of KFC Radio on the Barstool Sports Podcast Network And today is an important episode Today is one of, it's a monster first of all We got two interviews, it's gonna be about a three hour show

But an interview with a guy who i think from my generation from my demo is one of the most important people to ever walk the face of the fucking earth and that sounds hyperbolic but it's not never steve-o steve-o for anyone who's like a 80s baby uh maybe a little bit early 90s, probably, I don't know exactly where the cutoff is, but for the people who watched and grew up on Jackass, and particularly Steve-O. Why do you say his name so funny?

How do I say it? Steve-O. How do you say it? Steve-O. Well, it's not Steve-O. It's Steve-O. Steve-O. No.

No, it's like Steve-O. I know how it's spelled. Well, no, then I'm pronouncing it the way it's not because it's not Steve-O. It's Steve-O. Steve-O? No. No, it's like Steve-O. I know how it's spelled. Well, no, then I'm pronouncing it the way it's spelled. No. If it was like Jono, like, hey, Jono, Kevo, then it's like Kevo, Jono, Steve-O. It's Steve-O. Like, I'm assuming his last name starts with O? No. No? What is it? I don't know, but I know it doesn't start with an O.

Is it his middle name? Because it's like Steve-O. No, it's not. I mean, I know it doesn't start with an L. Is it his middle name? Because it's like Steve-O. No, it's not. I know it's not how it's spelled. Well, then you pronounce things the way they're spelled. We should have asked him this. We should have. I didn't think there was even a doubt. I didn't think there was even a question.

What's his last name? I want to say it's like Blake or something. Steve Blake? That's a legendary basketball player from Maryland. Steve Gilchrist Glover. Gilchrist Glover, okay. Steve-O is pronounced Steve-O. Yeah.

Not Steve-O. Steve-O. It's not like T-Vo. It's Steve-O. It's like Coach-O, Steve-O. Steve-O. No! Yeah. But now I want to know what the O is for.

I just figured his last name was like a card. I think it's because people call him Steve-O. He just spells it funny. Can you go to his Wikipedia? There's got to be like a... You think it's like he's like, Oh! Every time you see Steve do something,

Oh! I think Steve-O just didn't know how to spell Steve-O. You think? Yeah. I think his name is just like... Because if you didn't have the hyphen there, people would be like, Steve-O? Yeah, that's true.

That is true. That looks like a stupid Italian name. I'm sticking with my way. Stevo. It's not like you're saying, like, Like Coach O. Stevo. No. Steve Hall. Steve Hall. Yeah. Steve Hall.

We'll get into that. That's a great little foreshadowing for our top five today, but Steve, Stevo. I mean, we talked to him for an hour and 15 minutes and we could have done another hour with him uh he's awesome he was great we had two great thanks to nacho on this yeah and thanks to nacho the meme god uh i'm sure all of you follow one of his many accounts on instagram with one of the more like in-depth thought provoking conversations we've had in a while it sounds funny coming from a guy you think like the dude who does

memes it's kind of just like i don't know whatever man i fuck around on the internet and instead it's much more like i like to study like the sociological effect of the internet on humans so two very good interviews um but steve-o is like i don't know by the way if we got like scoops there but it sounded like he like admitted I don't know, by the way, if we got like scoops there, but it sounded like he, he like admitted some of his future projects that maybe he hasn't really been talking about. Yeah. He definitely says he's getting arrested this week.

Awesome. Yeah. I'll be on the lookout for Steve-O getting arrested and on the, on the lookout for his new project, which is going to be incredible, but, uh, a long, unbelievable conversation with one of my like childhood idols, uh, on today's show. Did you have a jackass show did i have a jackass like you and your friends no no no no oh see like we had yeah did you oh my parents because my parents are moving so they're still like texting pictures

like do you need this and it's like jackass volume six and it's just us like i don't know love to watch those john can we get those i I would imagine we could get those, yeah. Can we put that on an episode? If there was still Barstool Gold, I'd be airing this for sure. It's definitely like riding a sled downstairs. Whatever, though. What's the most extreme thing you think you did? Nothing, really.

Like jump off a roof or some shit? Yeah, I used to jump off my roof all the time. I used to dive off... I used to dive into bags to jump off my roof all the time i used to dive off like uh i used to dive into bags of leaves off my my treehouse but i think that was pre jackass stuff but like me and all my friends had like i mean it wasn't obviously good at all yeah it's almost like what steve says when he's like everyone's got a podcast i feel like everyone our age had the uh homemade video homemade jackass yeah and it was like i don't

know like there was definitely nothing good none of us went on to do great things in the field of self-harm well really only like five or six people in the whole world did so it's those guys uh on the interview i say that i think of those guys as like one-upping each other with competition and i described it as like magic and bird and jordan magic i think steve-o is like the michael jordan i know like knoxville is like the face of it because he's kind of like the most famous one but i think like if i if you got a draft you're drafting someone to put together the most crazy you know stunt team i think think Steve-O is the number one pick. See, I think Steve-O is a good Pippen because he's so good. He's just not the face.

But as far as doing the shit, you think that Knoxville is better than Steve-O? Um, like, I think if you got to pick one dude who's going to get set on fire, get his dick kicked in, get paper cuts in his mouth, eat this,

drink that, jump off of that. I think Steve-O is the one. Yeah, it's probably Steve-O, but Knoxville's no slaps. Don't get me wrong. Uh, we've, drink that, jump off of that. I think Steve-O is the one. Yeah, it's probably Steve-O. Knoxville is no slap, don't get me wrong. We've never interviewed him, have we? No.

We've got to get him in here too. That's the next one I've got to talk to. But for my money, I'm taking Steve-O. Yeah, you're right, but I just feel like he doesn't get the recognition, and that's why he couldn't be Jordan. I think that's because he also, you know, mentioned it briefly in this interview like some problems with drugs and some dark shit that maybe he just didn't take the right steps professionally to be like all right i'm the movie franchise i'm you know the hollywood guy he was just i think it's just because he loves

like just like i just want to like throw myself down the stairs dude that's like that's all that's all i'm here for he good he grew up in like five different countries, which is like we didn't get to it. He's British. Yeah. He's born in London, raised in like Brazil and Venezuela, Canada. I wanted to ask, and again, we just didn't get to it, but like do you think that's part of why this is your brand of humor? Because you spend so much time in places that you couldn't really communicate. Right.

You couldn't be like the funny guy. Yeah. So it's like, all right, watch me do something ridiculous. That's universal. Yeah. That's why it's so, it's so good too. It's like everybody can,

can enjoy that. You can put on jackass for anyone who speaks any language and it's hilarious. And then if you could speak English and understand it, it's, it's funnier because you see how tight the brotherhood is and all that shit. And there's, there's a lot, it's almost a lot deeper of a show yeah when

you realize that they're all best friends they all fucking just like yeah roast each other and defile each other and it's like you miss if you spoke a different language and there weren't subtitles obviously you would miss that aspect of it but it would still be fun enjoy it no matter what i mean when i when you hear that now hear that, that guitar lick in the beginning, that is like, I mean, I compared it to Chappelle's show as far as like must-see appointment TV for me at like a younger age. It's those two shows.

And I think of like the Chappelle show, Chappelle show up there with that guitar lick is, I mean, did you ever, did you know CKY? Can't Kill Yourself? I didn't know it before Briac asked me. Camp Kill Yourself has a jerky boys prank phone call skit where they call up a

dog collar company, an electric fence company and talk about wanting to get 30 of them to put on children and it is so fucking funny. I don't know which one of it it is. And he's just like, you know, so I got these kids.

And if I put the collars on there, and I buzz them, are they okay? And the girl's kind of playing along at the end of it. She's like, thank you, sir. You have made my day. But, I mean, it goes off the rails. And that was like my first taste of it. And then shopping carts for me was what hooked me. I think it's like the first episode of Jackass.

But when they were just going around on like around the suburbs of Pennsylvania, just throwing each other off things and on shopping carts with that song. I love that song. It's the worst like heavy metal song, but it's got that good guitar riff again. But I could watch that there's one where they he's backwards and they hit the curb and it like comes up it hits him in the face like the handle as he flies off it and it's like the most sophomoric shit in the world but i could i will laugh at that every single time until i'm fucking dead there's just something i don't even care for the gross stuff which is fun you. You know, whatever. Like, the straight violence is what I was going to do.

Just like, ah, just watch this person get demolished. But it never appealed to me. Like, I never wanted to do it. My limit was, like, a backyard wrestler. I didn't want to get hurt. Almost like Steve-O. Like, I wanted, like, to be known for getting hurt. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like, I wasn't enjoying the pain. And, again, it was, you it was you know fucking rolling downstairs or whatever it wasn't crazy like them yeah super like trying to make casual things look way more dangerous right really more what we were doing rather than doing actual dangerous things yep but it was like i i feel like i i wanted to be jackass yes i wanted to be definitely it was like either you know professional athlete or like professional stuntman moron but my i tapped out at like backyard wrestling there was a couple like we would we would do a couple wrestling matches and you know hit each other with like uh nothing like we would we would always we had like some sort of material that would like

crack easily that was like we'd whack each other with it like it was a fucking still like a steel chair except it just wasn't just soft was soft. But I remember one time. Fire foam? I remember my, yeah, basically like that. Right, right. My buddy wanted to give me a tombstone, a pile driver. And I was like, all right, like, hang on. Let me, like, prepare myself for it.

And I just, like, jumped up in the air and just landed on top of my neck on a fucking mattress. And, like, I'm pretty sure I fucking ruined my neck, like, for good there. I remember being like, ah, ah, ah, and I'm, like, really, really fucking hurt. Not realizing that, like, you know, he wasn't actually going to drop me on my fucking head. Just, like, stupid, stupid shit. I remember getting chokeslammed onto, like, a fucking stone patio. It was, like, an inch of snow. Like, it was not enough to pad you. And my buddy's like,

boom! And I was like, lost all of the wind. The worst feeling. The fact that getting older means you don't get the wind knocked out of you anymore is one of the most underrated aspects of getting older. Best part is that it doesn't happen to you anymore, right? Yes.

People don't talk about that enough. I don't get the wind knocked out of me anymore. No more jamming my fingers I don't get the wind knocked out of me anymore. No more jamming my fingers. No more getting the wind knocked out of me. I'm good. No more rolling an ankle. Good. I don't fight as much as I used to.

I mean, play fight. YP is basically it, I would imagine. There's still like the... I was thinking of the jackass form, like the human body creates contact, a little Jim Harbaugh shout out. RIP Big Ten. But, like, I still want to do that stuff. But it's just I don't want to lose my breath anymore.

Although you still get it when you shovel. Shoveling, you get it. What do you mean? You've never been shoveling? You're kind of just pushing the shovel? Yeah. And it gets caught? Yeah, but that was always more like my dick or my pelvis. I never really.

Oh, I get it. I never. See, for knocking the wind out of me, I had to hit my back. What? That's insane. You get the wind knocked out of you hitting your chest? Hell yeah. No, it would always be when I fell on my back.

It's like in hockey, it's something that happens a lot, like going into the corner. Yeah, your stick hits you. And your stick will get stuck. Yeah, yeah. And you're like, I'm going to ice you until you die. Oh, it's the worst. stuck yeah yeah it's a phenomenon i can't believe we don't have that happen to us anymore thank fucking god it's crazy how much we need oxygen like you don't get oxygen in you for a really short amount of time and your body's like oh fuck oh fuck just like hold your breath like 10 seconds like this is uncomfortable i need to

breathe this is why the fucking masks are a problem because people need their goddamn oxygen. But so Stilo and Tank Sinatra. Tank is if you don't follow him, go check out Tank Sinatra or Influencers in the Wild or Tank's Good News. He was a he's a very interesting dude. So two good interviews. They're brought to you by Owens Mixers. The transfusion is here transfusion has arrived and i feel like you know obviously it's been around for a while but i feel

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which I do believe we are, we are a small, but loud fan fan base. I don't think there's many of us. I think that's why I got canceled. I felt it, but yes, but I,

I saw a lot of people being like, you know, I don't fucking know about the show or care about the show. And I think you two are the only ones who liked it. But yeah, like that's the fucking problem. That's the point. So we're going to go through top five shows to be canceled because it's always that way. It's always a show that, you know, shows that get canceled that you don't remember are just

shows that suck. The ones that you can remember, it's like, God damn it. Why wouldn't more people watch this when other shows that are absolute fucking garbage continue to thrive and get season after season and you get the good ones being canceled fucking hurts it does but when you said garbage it made me think of the show i'm watching which isn't garbage but for some reason did you see my tweet last night i'm watching the blacklist yeah i mean you love the blacklist i love the blacklist but i particularly love season six season six see

that's like it's i can't believe it's even that deep that's oh there's seasons around like 100 episodes six is on the netflix seven is seven is already finished too so i bought season seven last night once i finished wow yeah which i'm a fucking idiot though because i just bought it on itunes for 30 bucks when i bet it's on peacock and peacock tv 50 bucks a year oh buddy i should have just yeah bought that which i bought peacock right afterwards because like you idiot but blacklist is the best network show i've ever seen that does the hour-long procedurals but also has an overarching story that tells it really well it's either usually it's like a procedural show where you don't, the big picture stuff really doesn't matter.

Or it's. I think that's a very good way to describe it. Right. Or you have to watch a show. Like the best shows are the ones that tell one story, but you don't really get that week to week satisfaction. The blacklist is the perfect like in between. I agree.

And the, but last night they had, excuse me. I was watching an episode where the director of the fbi or whatever cooper is said i don't care if the president involved in a plot to assassinate himself or not that's a line in the show of that guy and then and then moments later elizabeth is like here's what we're doing we are stopping the president from killing himself. And I can just hear their voices saying it. It's so fucking good. But that had a good backstory, too, as well.

It's one of the all-time pilots. Because the pilot is the number one FBI most wanted to turn himself in. He'll only work with this girl. It's her first day at the FBI. What's going on? Red Reddington is amazing. Unbelievable. And at least for the first couple seasons, I don't know where they're at now, only work with this girl it's her first day at the FBI what's going on Red Reddington is unbelievable amazing and the

at least for the first couple seasons I don't know where they're at now but the bad guys like in each week were like you know sick sadistic fucks dude there was one guy with the dentist with the teeth right yeah like there's some shit in there there was one this week or this season that is La Fleur de Mar

and it's like based on some poem but it's basically just wicked rich people. And they all go to a party. And then one of them is randomly chosen. And they're put into a saw-type box. And then they have to get themselves out. Or they die. What do you mean, kind of box?

So it's not a saw-type. Because you don't have to cause yourself physical harm. But it opens with a guy in there with a bomb. And it's like, all the tools are in there. You got it. Everything you know. And then he clips it. And he's like, I did it.

I fucking did it. And then it clicks back on. It's like. And there's just a red box. It's fucking sick. It's sadistic, but awesome. I bet you there's some shit like that box. It's fucking sick. It's sadistic, but awesome. I bet you there's some shit like that. I don't think so.

I bet you there is. I bet you there. I definitely believe that there are people who hunt humans, like the most dangerous game. I for sure believe. There's a reason why there's short stories and movies about that. That's happened somewhere. You don't just come up with that idea. Of course.

That's a very basic come up with. A great person hunts a person. I think, that's a very basic come up with. A great person hunts a person. I think that's because it happens. I don't, I mean, I'm not saying

it happens or it doesn't. I'm just not like, that has to happen before you can think of the idea. I think that they're like, for a hunter too, like I mean,

hunters love hunting and then you get really rich and you do it, you know, you've hunted every big game, you've gone to the Serengeti, you've gone to the Outback, you've done it all.

Like, what's next? I think some rickety cricket shit. I see. Like, that doesn't make any sense to me, though, because guess what? It's fucking a lot harder to hunt a giraffe than it is to hunt me. I don't know. I don't know.

Because you've got, like, brains. You know what I mean? Like, a giraffe is just, like, it's out there. And you just fucking find it and shoot it. Yeah, I'm just out there. Like, I don't know how to, like, fucking, like... If you know how to track, it's easy to track me because I don't know how to not be tracked. But I think the idea is that you will at least know

what's going on and could fight back. Not for the gun. I'm not hunting. It's not close quarter combat. I mean, it's up to you. It's just like, dude, survive. Go. Yeah, I'd be dead in 10 minutes.

So would I. It would be like, I'm not fast. I'm not agile. I'm not smart. I don't understand how the woods work. He's confident. He's a confident kid. I'd be dead in 10 minutes.

That would be my pitch. I'm like, dude, you're going to kill me so fast. Right. This is not even going to get off. If you're doing this for the thrill of it, go fucking shoot a target. Yeah, there ain't no thrill. Because there is more. Go shoot clay mines.

Because there's more thrill in that than shooting is more go shoot clay mines because that's there's more thrill in that than shooting me did you ever see hard target with john clavette m no uh wilford brimley was in it r.i.p it's i remembered that movie once he died oh yeah yeah that was during like your weekend off you were like not on the internet that weekend oh he died recently yeah oh yeah i mean i told you about this i think we said about on this podcast maybe he's a diabetes guy you know oh no I know who Wilford Brimley is. Yeah, he's big dead. And he was in Hard Target and where they hunt Jean-Claude Van Damme.

And there's a scene where Wilford Brimley is like the old wily veteran who helps Jean-Claude Van Damme. He's like his uncle. And he's coming out galloping on a horse with a bow and arrow in his hand. And there's just this huge explosion behind him and it's just the most awesome scene this is the diabetes guy just riding out of like hellfire and brimstone with his fucking bow and arrow uh but i think that some people bet you there are there are some people who would be a good hunt and that would get their their you know yeah no no no. There are people who live in the brush and they'd be good at it.

Yeah, yeah. Some Rambo shit. I have barely been in the woods in my life. Anyway, top five shows. Our top five today is brought to you. Oh, this right here, our next ad, is really more of just, it's perfect serendipity. The top five is brought to you by Daddy Kit.

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I'm still There's different There's different like levels to this cancelled shit You know there's different forms of it if you ask me I'm still gonna consider this a cancelled show Despite the fact that it has continued in different forms It's the rest of development. I just don't consider the Netflix seasons to be real.

They are far, far inferior to the Fox seasons. And, you know, we got to season three, but I think it was more like two and a half. And it's the funniest show ever in my mind. It's the best written show of all time. It's the most clever script you'll ever see. It is constant jokes that you can watch. You can watch that series 10 times. And on your 11th viewing, you're still picking up on more inside jokes and subtle jabs.

And the fact that goddamn people wouldn't go watch that. It was fucking infuriating. In an era, by the way, now I can understand it where it's just like there's so much to watch and do and stream and do with the internet and so much competing for your time. Back then, it was like, what else do you have to do? Just put on Fox and watch this very fucking funny show. I recently rewatched it, and I forgot how blatant they were about, like, we're going out of business. You guys need to seriously tell your friends about this. When they were, like, the home builders occupancy or whatever for HBO to pick us up. It was so good. And then, I mean, Netflix did so years after the fact, but they just went such a different direction with it.

It was just like, man. I wish I'd get to, though. You got to make it your own. You can't recapture it either. I'm sure, you know, like a decade had passed and all these people are different, but they just, they abandoned like the whole fucking format and everything.

And it was just like, this ain't, this is not the show that I, that I wanted. It's a different show. And maybe it has some, some humor in it, but it's, I guess almost like in a way like the office when Steve Carell left, it's different. It's not necessarily bad. I personally think it is bad, but it's, I guess, almost like in a way like The Office when Steve Carell left. It's different. It's not necessarily bad. I personally think it is bad, but those first two, two and a half seasons are so, I mean,

to me, that's the pinnacle of humor is that wit and that clever writing. I mean, the first episode has one of my favorite lines of all time when, when, uh, fuck, what's the wife's name? The mom's name. Lucille. Lucille. lines of all time when when uh fuck what's the wife's name the mom's name lucille lucille when lucille's like oh the homosexuals are at it again everything they do is just so dramatic it makes me want to set myself on fire it's like perfect unbelievable i mean that's one of those shows like who's your favorite character i mean it changes every time i i watch it changes every

time i have the conversation i would probably pick joe bluth but then there are times where, you know, I remember certain other things about other people. I mean, just the amount of, like, Solid as a Rock with a rock and the business models and actual model. And, like, I mean, Barry Zuckercorn and Gene Parmesan. I mean, it's a masterpiece. And it's also part of one of the two biggest flexes I've ever heard in my life, and they both came from the same person at the same meeting. They were Peter Ternan, our first ever meeting with him as a company. There were probably like 12 of us there, and it was very –

we all had a recliner. Remember that? Yes, yes. We all had our own recliner. That's how small it was, how small the office was. I don't remember what he said here though what was it okay so first of all the first biggest flex i ever heard was peter was a little late for the meeting and he said i'm sorry white house i apologize it wasn't the way i was he was at lunch with obama yeah he came to me yeah yeah he's like my bad uh we had lunch with obama uh so i'm a little late

and he's like he's like yeah we're just kind of laying out his future plans and stuff like that. Post-presidential, you come to me. I'll tell you what to do. And then the second one was someone asked, because again, they were only like 12, 14, whatever number there were of us. We all had our own chair. Their own recliner chair. Right.

And someone asked, you know, where were we on the spectrum? Barstool Sports. Were we like a little too niche-y? And we were like, we want to be mainstream, but we don't want to lose who we are. Right. We were comparing it. Whoever was asking the question was comparing it to Arrested Development.

Right. And Peter said something along the lines of, well, I can speak a lot to that because I'm the one who took it off air. I'm the one who put it on air, and I'm the one who took it off air. Woo, mama. Woo, baby. I mean, I get it. i know that's the game this is why i could never be like an exec like this though because i would just be like no that's staying on the air i like the show stay yeah like it's a lost leader or whatever like

it's just gonna you know we'll take a bath on this it's just too fucking funny i get it i know i understand the game but when i see that gray's anatomy and not that that's like a bad show because it's been a big success but when i see that gray's anatomy is on like season 17 or something you couldn't give me like five of a rest development come on man by the way as this all kind of ties in the that girl meredith gray i don't know what her real name is in in real life she she did an interview where she was just like, yeah, I just keep doing it for the paycheck. Yeah, she's like, it's easy. I love that.

Why not? I'm not here to, like, chase awards. I'm not here to, like... 20 million dollars a year. Yeah, I'll stay on things. For, you know, 17 years. It's like, I don't need to be like, this is my Brokeback Mountain,

or this is my Oscar winner. It's like, I just play the hits, make my money, and I have a happy fucking family. She said she started when she was younger, she would have pursued things. But now it's like... I had a family. I'm good. This is what matters.

Give me that money. And again, it's $20 million. I know. It's too much to turn down. It's not even an option. What are you going to do, John? What are you going to do? I mean, by the way,

high fidelity is on the table. Yeah, I know. I'm just trying to see what way I'm going to take this. Oh, boy. This is where I usually like my top five is like, all right, let me think about

like the top five. John was like, I got to come up. Like he always comes from like left field with it. Well, like, like part of you wants to say the slap.

Explain to me The Slap. It's a show? It was a show. I think it got like six episodes. And it was called The Slap. It wasn't like that was the scene we call The Slap. The show was called The Slap. And it was all based on that.

It was a whole show based on one domestic violence incident where a father hits a kid at a barbecue. Yes. Yeah. But it's not his kid. Yeah. It's Zachary Quinto, I believe, is the one who does the slapping. Love that guy.

And he just slaps somebody else's kid? Yeah. The fuck? He slaps Dom from... Uma Thurman! Oh, dude. There's a lot of people in it. I know that.

The class is insane. This class is nuts. Okay, I don't know the first two people. Melissa George a lot of people in it. This class is insane. This class is nuts. Okay, I don't know the first two people. Melissa George or Peter Sarsgaard. Oh, wait, I do know Peter Sarsgaard. Skarsgård? No, not Skars. Sars.

I recognize him. But then it's Zachary Quinto, Uma Thurman, Thandie Newton, Thomas Sadowski, and Brian Cox. Yep, yep, yep. That's a crazy cast. And it was on, like, network TV? It was on NBC, I believe. Yep. Yep. Yep. That's a crazy cast. And it was on like network TV. It was on NBC, I believe. Hilarious.

Maybe ABC. And they, do they cancel it because of ratings or did someone come to their senses and be like, what the fuck are we doing here? I mean, that is, I think it was immediately like the trailer is so absurd.

Oh, wait, that was the American mini series. So it might've just, it just aired. They might've just aired. Six and done. In my mind,

that's fine. It still counts. Each of the shows, eight install installments told the story the aftermath of a birthday party from the perspective of a different character okay that's a good idea i mean it actually is a good idea now to call it like the slap and all that shit i think is is bad but i think having like eight different perspectives of a traumatic experience is a cool and that i bet you around that time was traffic and um the other one uh dude sandy knew it was talking about her her role in traffic you know who she is she's um she's maven yes yeah yeah yeah we love her but she just did that whole thing on tom right and she was talking

about in that article about like like uh i forget who's the director of crash crash is what i the traffic traffic's one of them but crash is yeah yeah yeah um and it was like the director was like made like made sure she's wearing like protective underpants she's like yeah i want matt dillon to finger the fuck out of you she's like all right dude fucking relax and even like matt dillon was like uh what dude that's an aggressive scene and he wanted to be more aggressive no i think i think he got what he wanted oh he's just like jesus christ yeah i mean i thought even if you're wearing some sort of like on a field trip in eighth grade i mean it's educational i'm'm sorry, not eighth grade.

I'm having a senior year. Either way, you're old enough. Don't be a pussy. I mean, even if you're wearing some sort of special underwear, if Matt Dillon's just like putting a knuckle into your pussy, that's pretty, it's like, that didn't really save me from anything. Yeah. And also, it's like underneath her dress.

Like, we don't need to do this, dude. You know, we can just like pretend my hands all the way. Jesus Christ But since it didn't get cancelled I'm going to change my answer now I'm not going to say it I'm not going to do it You have to say it Well I'm going to say it but it's not going to be my answer It's your answer

Real men watch Bravo Jerry O'Connell Brilliant concept from our man Jerry O.C. It didn't get canceled. I don't think it ever changed the name. I don't think it ever made it to air, did it? No, you're thinking of the show that you talked about. Like Two White Guys or whatever? No, the Jerry O. show.

Right, right. But I thought there was something with Real Men Watch Bravo that was like, maybe this is why it got canceled. It was just like too. I don't think it ever got on air. Right i think right no i think it might have gotten on air with a different name right okay because it was like it was homophobic right right right it was like look at straight guys who are straight guys taking over bravo yeah fuck you get the gays out of here it's real man time wrong time you think that like five six seven eight years

earlier you probably would have thrived yeah uh all right but that's not your answer no okay official answer we are gonna go with the black diamonds fuck that was my other like i mean it's where i fell in love with olivia wild yep it's people don't know that like people know her from house and all her other shit she's jenny riley bro yeah she's jen Jenny Riley. But that's also after the OC, right? That was once the OC. I thought that was her first role. Right, right, right.

Is it before? Yeah, it must have been after the OC, right? But yeah, you're right. People know for that. She's just the bartender. And I have a thing for bartenders. They serve me alcohol. I love it.

She just has dark hair, fair skin. I think she has light eyes. Just like a bartender. She also is dating the guy who's kind of like a gangster a little bit. So she looks the other way on some shit. Jenny fucking Riley. She's the best. What a woman.

That season is awesome. Have you ever gone back to watch it? No, I did not hold up. I haven't either. Yeah, I don't want to. I think maybe we have to. I mean, it's like, do we have to open up that box? I bet it's on Peacock, right?

It was on. Yeah, probably. Yep, yep. I mean, that doki, the bad guy, was the dude from The Mask. He was bad. And the brother was the kid Smalls from Sandlot, who was like the junkie brother. The whole cast of brothers are all awesome. jonathan tucker is who i know the best he i think he's the one

who's going to have the biggest career um i'm looking at it so great man there was a show uh brotherhood on showtime yeah oh yeah that like people tried to say like if you like black donnelly and it got canceled go watch brotherhood yeah that's what it was isaacs i mean i guess it's kind of the same but not really no that that's that's the irish mob in yeah in the province right right great show uh but i just it doesn't didn't quite have me the same way donnelly's did um i mean it's probably a better show because it's like showtime it's really good yeah i love that but i remember thinking like this ain't no black donnelly's because at the time that was the fix i wanted but uh if you haven't seen the first season, go watch it. It is on

NBC, by the way, so it's definitely on Peacock. My second pick, I will go with Awake. Jason Isaacs. Jason Isaacs as a... What was the exact concept? He was a cop who, when he goes to sleep...

He was in a car accident and he lived in tune of realities. One, his son survived the car accident, and the other as well. Right. And when he would, like, go to sleep, it would be like he would be in one world. Yeah. And he would wake up and he was in the other. And you don't really, I think at one point he'd lose his track of, like, which is the awake world and which is the real world. And all the while, I think when he goes to sleep and he's with his son, he also learns something about the case he's got to solve in the real world so he uses like all these clues and hints while also juggling the fact that like he

halfway has his family and halfway doesn't i think i think in the real world like he gets divorced because the kid died it was too much trauma and then in the fake world it's like a happy family together uh one and done though a one and done season it's got the kid from 13 reasons why yes who looks exactly the same exactly that show came out he's been awake but about a decade earlier like eight years ago awake was real early barstool yeah i remember it kind of being the first show i think i was like i'm gonna like cover this show for barstool um but that kid he's in 13 reasons why he's in something else as well. He has not aged a fucking second. It didn't even get a season.

First of all, it's got great ratings. 7.9 on IMDb, 81 on Rotten Tomatoes, 8.3 on TV.com. 91% of TV users like this show. It got axed in a handful of episodes, right? It got March to May. I just don't know why. Was that 2012?

No, that was not writer's strike territory. That was way after. It was like no... I mean, sometimes you just don't know what's going on with the network or, you know, like if the network head at NBC switched over.

Oh, Steven got B.D. Wong in it? Yeah, yeah. I remember that. Wilmer Valderrama? Oh, yeah. He was like the partner. I was going to say the partner, the partner I mean, a great show good actors

like Jason Isaac's a real actor and a fucking great concept and just nothing, they got rid of it Fuck you NBC Two, The Newsroom Love me, The Newsroom Suck my dick, Jeff D. Love

You fucking libtard Dude, I love. Well, first of all, Will McAvoy's a registered Republican. Thank you very much. But the opening scene in the newsroom is one of the better opening scenes of all time. I almost want to stop and play it right here. What is it? It's so predictive. Fuck it, I want to play it. We right here. What is it? It's so, like, predictive.

Fuck it. I want to play it. Yeah. We'll cut this, but I got it. Oh, that's McAvoy's, like, rant on whatever channel. Why America's not the best country. Yeah. And I mean, it's...

Why is America the best country in the world? It's not. It's not. And then he just goes on. He, like, lists everything. He's like, we're 7th in this. We're 18th in this. We're 24th in this.

We're 19th in this. What makes you think we're the best in the world, sorority girl? He delivered. And, I mean, at that point, in my mind, I know he's done plenty. But, like, in my mind, at that point, he's still fucking dumb and dumber to me. He's still, like, a funny guy. And he delivered, like, this fucking. I mean, some people love it.

Some people hate it. But a very, like, deep character. I think it's legitimately great. It hits Sorkin and people, you know... Sorkin-y. It can be too Sorkin-y. I like that, though. Me too.

I can appreciate when you want a TV show to be real, but if it's not going to... I mean, TV shows aren't real. They're silly. And when it's like, bow, bow, bow, bow, bow, bow, bow, bow, and the way it flows, it just goes from one conversation to another, it's like just the the most like chock full of fucking eloquent writing it's great it's it's it's and like the things they tackle are so cool like like the night

from 9-11 is fucking awesome yeah and that kid in it the indian guy uh he's awesome yeah he's gone on to a bunch of other shit that i love dev patel yeah yeah he's very sick um but it's olivia munn olivia munn i forget what's her name it's not sage steel but it's like it's it's there's alliteration to it yeah ss for sure um but she's she's a weapon it's a it's just like the show i think it's season two or something like that when they do when they're like checking out the war crimes it's all fucking and it's all real i like i like shows that you know it wasn't real in the dialogue or whatever but they're tackling real subjects which to me i think is the coolest type of show where it's like

we're gonna do the hollywood uh glamour and effects but we're gonna be talking about osama bin laden we're gonna be talking about you know whatever the scene when fucking when will brings on toby from the office and toby's like an environmental specialist and everything's like yeah that would have been a great idea 30 years ago yeah and he's like too late he's like do you have anything positive to offer us like no no no we're done ah so good i mean it's highly like politically charged and if you don't agree with what was going on there you probably fucking hate that show but whatever the actual show dude i argued with my friend once who's a marine and it was like i he was like off at camp or or wherever he was of a base and we were just

talking about i think i think we it started when he was insulting soccer and like i didn't even like liverpool yet and i just like took offense to anyway, just because I was in the mood to pick a fight that day. And he's like, America will never accept it. And I was like, the rest of the world accepts it. He's like, yeah, but we're the best. And I was like, I gave the full back of my rant. I was like, what makes you think we're the best?

I just did the full thing. And he's like, you're a fucking idiot. I was like, we're linked in this. We're linked in this. And he was like, he was fuming idiot. I was like, we're linked in this. We're linked in that. Da-da-da-da-da-da-da. And he was fuming. And I was like, I got the stats. I don't know if any of it is true.

There's a chance that all of that's a lie. We have no fucking clue. The only thing I'll say about the newsroom is the ending. The worst of it. Oh, I love it. I know you would. I know you do. Don't get me wrong.

I understand its preposterous. The Will McAvoy song, which is the most not Will McAvoy thing. Yeah. Will McAvoy, what was that? He was retiring or the network was shutting down or whatever? Yeah, I think so. He would have been like, life's over and then you die. Whatever.

This is not a big deal. To have him do a big performance is so not the character character but it was so sorkin and so dramatic um but that was one of those shows it was like a hate watch at times but also a great watch at other times i miss it i i love that show i really really really like newsroom uh all right my third pick a show i've never seen before okay freaks and geeks i think it's kind of cheating to take a show you've never seen before well i, I would like to have seen it. You can watch it still. I cannot.

It is not on any fucking streaming service. Oh, but you can get it on iTunes. I don't even know if it's that. I think you have to, like, buy a DVD, because I tried to do this recently. Really? And what's his face? Judd Apatow. There's an article with him saying, like saying there's a problem with the music,

like the copywritten music, and it can't be released. And I was like, I don't know if that's true or not, but I want to fucking watch Freaks and Geeks. So it's not on any. You do that on Prime. This was like a couple months ago when coronavirus started, because I was like, all right, I'm going to watch it. And it wasn't on anything.

I mean, I checked all of it. And I Googled it. And there was an article from, I think, May of this year with Judd Apatow being like, yeah, you can't get it anywhere right now. But if it's out now, I'm all in on it. I didn't even see when that article was written from. I'm just checking Prime now. Because it was, he said, it sounded like the biggest fucking, let me see if I can find the article. Yeah, I guess it's not on Prime. Because it was, they said, he said, which it sounded like the biggest fucking, let me see if I can find the article,

because I was like. Yeah, I guess it's not on Prime. I was like, what? Yeah, it's really, it's bizarre. I was like, that's the biggest lie I've ever heard. Like, you have a problem with the music? Like, figure that out. Like, call up the fucking studio, and you guys can have this done, like, in an afternoon.

Whatever the issue is, is not really a copyright issue. That's like, that's gotta be a coverup for something else. No. Judd Apatow reveals why freaks and geeks isn't available. March 27th, 2020. Um, he said, uh, so, cause some, some, uh, somebody tweeted, is it actually possible that freaks and geeks is not streaming anywhere and not available anywhere for digital purchase? Cause that's where I was at. I was like, I'll pay for it right now. And Judd replied, the music needs to be cleared for Freaks and Geeks. And if not, you can always watch it on DVD.

And I was like, I mean, I guess it just goes to show how spoiled we are. But I was just like, well, I honestly wouldn't know where I wouldn't know where to go watch a DVD. That's what I'm saying. Never mind. I have an Xbox. I don't. I checked that. I DVD. That's what I'm saying. Actually, never mind. I have an Xbox. I don't. I checked that. I don't think my laptop has it anymore.

No, laptops don't. And I was like, how in the year of our Lord 2020 can I not just watch a show that I want to watch? And I don't know if that's since been cleared up, but Freaks and Geeks can't even watch it. Not only canceled, like, just canceled culture. Like, it's gone.eks can't even watch it not only canceled like just canceled for like like canceled culture like it's gone you can't do it at all anymore but i mean that show uh has i i dragged my feet on watching it and now i'm paying the price but obviously everybody knows it's the most bomb cast of all time and what was that one and done i think it was one season maybe two uh i i think i want to say one i could be wrong on that but i mean you

know everybody who's ever starred in an apatow comedy movie was in freaks and geeks so on my list i don't care about it fuck you i don't care that it's a loophole i haven't seen it suck my dick john uh three is going to be i'm gonna go designated survivor wow i love that show yeah the piece of shit but i love it great concept it is awesome idea that's one of those shows where there's certain shows where you have like a great title or like a great opening scene or one great concept and then you have to build an entire series around it and that's what they did but that is a great idea the designated survivor it actually comes into play i would i i lost nights of sleep to the designated survivor because like every episode it is one of the ultimate end with a hook shows i've ever seen

i'll do one more i'll do one more it's and they're you know almost all shows are like that now but it is insane how how how how hooky it all is. It got three seasons. It got two. Well, now it's on Netflix. Netflix bought it. It's done now. But it got two.

Netflix bought it. And it was actually very funny to see the difference. Because first of all, they went very techie with it. In season three, every episode is titled after a hashtag, which is ridiculous. But they also swear, too. So they all of a sudden start going over the top like, You fucking bitch, motherfucking cunt! It's like, whoa!

Well, that's an example of a show like, did it get canceled? No, because Netflix picked it up. But it got rushed. They probably were like, all right, we have one more season to do. When they wanted to do six or seven. So did they wrap it up? Season three has an ending or no? No. Yes and no. Is Kiefer Sutherland in it? no yeah yes and no uh is keeper sutherland in it yeah on on netflix yeah um yeah it's i it that you could have done more but also it was you could have ended it there too it's weird because

i feel like netflix it used to kind of be like a save a show sort of like plan B sort of thing. But now it's almost like it's better to just have your show on Netflix. You know what I mean? It became the more prestigious like, oh, if the networks reject you, Netflix will pick up the scraps. And now it's like you're the scraps. We're the fucking premier spot.

Maybe we spend $13 billion a year on fucking original content. Alright, my fourth pick. Flash Forward. Shout out Coach Taylor. No. Shout out who? Coach Taylor, right? Yeah. No, no. He's early edition. Yeah, maybe that's what I'm

thinking of. Yeah, he's not in this? I haven't seen either. I read three quarters of the book. Never finished it. That's just what I do. But flash forward is a awesome, again, awesome concept about a like scientific facility has a incident where like the world stopped spinning for a millisecond and everyone on earth blacks out and some people time travel everybody time traveled uh forward in their consciousness they saw a certain like a matter of years into the future and you got to see a quick glimpse of

what you were going to become and what the world was going to be like some people saw nothing and that means that at that point in time you were dead. So if you blacked out and didn't see anything, that means like you're going to have a tragic end. But other people flash forward and they would see it's a, that's such a fucking awesome, uh, like throw a wrench into the entire world where it's like you, you're married and you're happily married and you black out during this incident and you flash forward and you see that you're divorced. You come back to the real world.

It's like, do we just get a divorce now? Do we try to change it? Do we just accept our fate? I mean, that's the code is the sort of shit that like it, it, it's like when we say like,

if we see aliens, how like religion would be ruined. Something like that happens. And like the entire world, as we know it, nobody, if you know that, you know, you saw your future and it nobody if you know that you know you saw your future and it doesn't involve this current job you just probably fucking quit yeah it didn't

involve your family you're just fucking like well fuck you guys i'm out of here uh it's and that i think i think it was just one book so like i think i think what happened there is like they finished the book and then when they had to like go off the book it totally sucked but uh right up there with awake for one of my favorite concepts ever for a book and a tv show uh it's my number four yep four will go half fidelity pretty quick one easy one we obviously now i know you said that zoe kravis was not like bothered by this but then i saw an instagram comment where she was like oh we'll just go watch all the other hulu shows with uh powerful people of color and so like she's got to have

some level of like fuck you guys i'm sure she's upset about it but she's just got other things cooking i mean she's cat woman yeah like yeah that's one of those things where you're kind of like but that doesn't mean you're not you know it's like i got other shit to do but also she could be like fuck you like don't worry i got a safety net that's the dc universe yeah but i'm a little fucking pissed because like i mean that was a passion project for her. Right. She got it because her mom did it. And I do believe there is like racial, you know, like implications there where it's like

she wants to be a leading female person of color and now you just take it away from her. But that's sad because I did think that like someone will pick it up. Somebody will do it. I don't think so. Yeah. Because it needs her. Yes't you can't not have her uh somebody tweeted out of saying like you gotta go watch the movie and like I mean I've seen the movie I just don't really remember the movie because I mean if you're asking me Zoey Kravitz versus John Cusack it's Zoey Kravitz in a fucking landslide just the idea in general of a female doing it makes more sense to me than a guy doing it so i just think the the concept works better with a girl anyway but a swaggy cool like new

york city bad bitch is just this is better than a hipster john cusack it just fucking is so fuck the movie uh my last pick my favorite show maybe of all time. Clone High. What? Clone High. I've never even heard of it. I know. I know you haven't. Clone High is a cartoon on MTV that is the most clever show I've ever seen. The idea is that there was a mad scientist who cloned everybody throughout history,

and they are now all high school age. So the main characters are Abraham Lincoln,incoln gandhi cleopatra what jfk and abe lincoln is like this like loser high school kid his best buddy is gandhi gandhi has add and he takes riddlin and he's like fucking crazy jfk is like the school bully and cleopatra is like the hot chick and he's fucking her, but Abe Lincoln also has a crush on her and they kind of get together. Joan of Arc is like the angsty emo teenage girl. Get out of town. When did this come out?

2002. Joan of Arc has, like she can hear the voices in her head, so she's going crazy. And it is so fucking cerebral. It's so smart. If you know... Look at this cast. It's so good. If you know... Look at this cast.

It's so good. Andy Dick, Donald Faison. Yep. Will Forte is Abe Lincoln. Who's Christopher Miller? Who's this guy playing JFK? Click on him because he does the voice perfectly. He does that New England accent so well.

He's a kind of nobody. There's this scene where JFK's throwing a party and he says he doesn't want any fat girls there and he just goes you uh know my policy regarding fatties and he pulls up his shirt and it just says no fatties on his shirt and it was like the buddies in high school we would just run around screaming you know my policy regarding fatties and there's this evil like mad scientist who like cloned them all and he's got this little this little butler that's a robot called mr butler trump it's and if you know history and i i mean i barely do but i knew enough of like

the little subtle jokes and like all the funny things about like gandhi's like non-violent because he's like this horny motherfucker and jonah bark's going crazy yeah jonah bark's going crazy and they're like they're thinking that it's like, you're just being a teenager. And she's like, no, I hear voices. And Abe Lincoln is like this pacifist, like, you know, like loser kid. It is. And it was just a one and done on MTV. It's MTV. Yes.

See, I didn't even think of MTV shows. Like, why could I put Jackass on the list? Oh, fuck. Well, you got your fifth pick. Probably. Yeah. Undressed would have been on the list. Undressed. list undressed undressed was kind of like the original office right where it was like this was like supposed to be real right uh yes it was supposed to be

i don't know if i compared the office they didn't have like right confessionals and stuff like that it was like supposed to be you're watching just actual kids in the dorm room yeah very clearly just a scripted show undressed i'm fucking undressed yeah i was gonna put happy endings in there what's that one uh that's with uh our boy adam pally and oh yeah david waynes yep yep um happy endings is funny as hell uh but no fuck it undressed man i loved undressed yes i don't know if this was ever canceled but bring back that show next remember next uh with like the meanest show ever where those people would step off the bus and from a hundred yards away, they go next. You're fat.

Next. You're ugly. That I'm a hundred yards away. I can just tell that shape of your body is not going to hold up over time. They would give you a dollar per minute that you lasted. Really? Yeah. That was like the hook was like, like if you could last, you know, a hundred minutes on

the date, you get $100. And then if you get next to it, you get nothing. MTV is doing it right. They just exploit. You'll hear from Steve-O in a bit. Yeah. Exploit children. Exploit young people. Exploitative programming to the absolute max.

Here's $100. $100. That was if you made it an hour. If you left 100 minutes. There were people who were like, no, you have to make more than an hour. You're only getting $1 a minute. You have to last almost two hours. There were people who would last like one minutes. No, you have to make more than an hour. Right. But we're getting a dollar a minute. Right. You have to last almost two hours. There were people who would last like one conversation, and they'd be like, here's $10.

You're gone. Get the fuck out of here. Next. All right. So that's it. Top five shows of all time canceled. We'll get into our voicemails, and then we'll do our interviews for the day. I can't wait to get to these interviews.

You guys should just fucking skip the voicemails, because the interviews are fucking awesome. But first up, our voicemails are brought to you by 3Chi. I hope that everybody pops some 3Chi, smokes some 3Chi, whatever, on the weekend, and then calls the KFC Radio hotline because you're going to unlock some things in your brain when you get going on the 3Chi. Friday night, I dabbled in the edibles once again. And, I mean, it's like an experience, dude. You start seeing things and

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honestly, it wasn't even like I woke up and laid there contemplating whether or not, it was just up and all one motion. Eyes open, up, out of bed, right into it. It was like I was dreaming, I knew what I wanted and just immediately was up and at it. I got a tweet from someone at the grocery store.

Because I've been talking about how when I smoked the 3G, I started eating white bread. And somebody found it. It's this Pepperidge Farmhouse hearty white. That's what you eat? That's the bread that I like. Oh, I thought you said you were doing potato stuff. No, I usually like potato bread. This is white bread and dethroned.

It takes a lot for me to get over the potato bread. This is it, though. Hardy white. But it's just funny to think that there's probably a handful of stoolies out there. Not many, but there's probably some who are just going to have raw dogs and bread tonight because I tried it. And that is a very funny thought. Smoke a little three-chee. Eat some white bread.

I promise you it'll be an enjoyable night. Nick, what do we got for voicemails? KFC, Byte, whoever's producing. So I've got a few questions. They all kind of go along the same lines. This sounds like John doing an accent. When I've gone out before using my normal American

accent, yes, it's a fake accent, there's this super hot bartender that has, he doesn't even look at me. And then I go in one time and use my breath for this fake accent and he his eyes pop out of his head so what is it about an accent that takes the girl from unattractive in your eyes to suddenly attractive um and what accent is the hottest in your opinion?

Thanks. Bye. I was hoping she was going to do a regular voice at the end there so I can hear the difference. I mean... What? You look like you got

something on your mind. Well, I got something. It's just... I can't believe I didn't see that coming. I can't believe I walked into that. As if that smirk

wasn't I'm about to do a British accent for the next seven minutes. I'm such an idiot. Kevin, here's the thing, right? Here's the thing, isn't it? So here's the thing I'm thinking, right? So my idea of a beautiful American girl is much different than my idea of a beautiful British girl. Okay.

A British girl, the bar's on the floor, right? Right. Hey, you got straight teeth. You can be in the fucking hooch with me, yeah. But an American girl, I'm thinking Pamela Anderson. I'm thinking fucking Olivia Wilde, right? I'm thinking girls like that. I'm like, oh, beautiful American, right?

Born, born, bred American, red, white, blue, fucking A, beautiful, gorgeous girl. Fat ass, big tits. Yeah, big old titties. Like a fucking Sophie D, right? Yeah, that's what I think when I think of a British girl. I think of a fucking fat tits, hardy girl. Yeah. Like a hardy girl.

British girls have big titties. Not a girl on an L.A. beach. No. No, fucking. I think American girls have asses and British girls, like Katie Price is her name, I think. There's always a British girl with big fat tits. No. No, I think American girls have asses, and British girls, like Katie Price is her name, I think she's got... There's always a British girl with big fat tits. Yeah.

Chesty broads. You want to take them up to your flat, right? Yeah. You want to go on the lift and go up to your flat and fuck those girls, but American girls, it's a different story. Yeah, and also it just adds an air of uncertainty. A little fucking mystery to it. Mystery changes the game, mate.

I think you like to fuck what you don't really have the ability to fuck. It's a rarity. It's a novelty. You don't run into that very often. There's a little something different. They say their words funny

and they say things that you go, what's that? Oh, you called that? It just makes the conversation easier. I've got something to talk to you about now. You are carrying this on. Usually by now you kind of

slip into Irish and Jamaican. You're good. You're nailing it. Keep going. If I go up to a girl in an American bar and I'm like... The pub. An American bar. I go up to a girl in an American bar, and I'm like... The pub. Well, in an American bar, no. It's not a bar. I was going to say the pub, don't you worry.

But, like, if I go up to a girl in an American bar, I'm like, hi, I'm John. And then I'm out of things. Oh, what do you do for life? Fuck off. Bugger off. But if I talk to a girl, and she's got a British accent, all of a sudden I'm intrigued. And I can tell, oh, what brings you here? What are you doing here?

You don't think you're on holiday? What brought you across the pond? But that's the way. I just think there's a lot of easier things to talk about, a lot of mystery, a lot of intrigue, and all kinds of things like that. Let me ask you a question. Why do you guys say sodding?

What are you, a nutter? You don't know? What is sodding? What does that mean? Like when you got a soldering pipe and it's hot and you're sodding mad. You are a colossal idiot. So there you have it. There you have it, girl. That's why it's more interesting to fuck a girl with an accent.

But it's the same thing. If I go across the pond now, they'd be like, oh, he's British. He's not interesting. Right. But if I use my real voice, they go, oh, he's a fucking American. What's up, you yank? Could you imagine if all this time you were doing an American accent and your real voice was that?

I love how you nailed the fink. What? Fink. Love it. What a performance by you. That was your best ever. Thank you. That was your best ever.

Next voicemail. Thanks. Did you do an English accent trying to do an American accent at one point there? Nick, I don't know. I did lose a little. We got meta. Kevin gave me a little too much credit. I lost a a little. Kevin gave me a little too much credit. I lost it a few times.

What's up, boys? So I am an EMT at a water park. And yesterday, one of our lifeguards tried picking up a baby pygmy rattlesnake when it was in the water. And just so happened surprise surprise it bit her on the finger uh so four three to call ems i'm taking care of her uh and her finger was basically looking great by the time she left uh she's gonna be all fine not gonna lose any limbs or anything i was just it made me think back to your interview with Mike Posner. If you could get bit by something as badass as a rattlesnake

or some type of very well-respected poisonous thing, and know you will survive, and know you'll have nothing, no injuries that will go with you for the rest of your life. Mike Posner is fine. He can walk. He's fine. This girl is going to be fine. She's not going to lose her finger. What you do is just have a story and be like, yeah, I got bit by a fucking pygmy rattlesnake.

I feel like I would. If I could get bit by something, then get the anti-venom, and then just have a story and probably have a little bit of a scar. I mean, I guess it's a good story. I don't think it's a good enough story. We got to hang on a second here. Yeah.

What's this fella mean? He's an EMT at a water park. Right. Okay. I was going to say, we can talk about the biting, but let's go back to the beginning. What do you mean? Are you like on call at the water park?

Are you a lifeguard? I think what we got here is a guy who maybe EMT school said, all right, you got the mouth-to-mouth down. Yeah. Everything else, you seem to be... A little shaky. A little shaky, yeah.

Why don't you head over to water country? You're going to Wild Water Kingdom. That's where... We'll just stick you there. In case someone drowns, you can do the chest compressions. I mean, he said it himself. He's like, she's got bit by a snake, so I had to call the real EMT

yeah, right, but like, first of all where are we? you're in a water park with rattlesnakes running around where are we where a pygmy snake is just something I'm supposed to know I don't know what that is I'm assuming a small one this lost me

this whole fucking thing lost me as far as the question I don't This lost me. This whole fucking thing lost me. As far as the question, I don't... From the lifeguard. I'm really harping on that. You're a lifeguard. You're a lifeguard. Come on. That's really...

I'm an EMT at a water park. I sit under an umbrella and I wear red shorts. You hold the foamy thing. And I yell at little kids all day. I like that spin zone to tell people you're an EMT, though. I'm an EMT at a water park. I'm an EMT at like water park yeah i'm just uh i'm an emt at like uh you know and i'm an aqua an aqua uh emergency technician yeah you're just a fucking lifeguard dude you just know how to do i can't

even think of what the word is what do you call it cpr yeah i mean if you are working at a water park for the summer and you think you're getting paid enough to like reach down and grab a snake to protect people you're fucking nuts dude there i mean if there's no one who's getting paid enough to do anything like in in that mark it down write that one down there's nobody getting paid enough to do anything like there is my uncle tell the story of um one time he was at uh i want to say he's at the garden and he was working security there. And there was, I'm going to fuck up the band, but it's like a Motley Crue, one of those type bands. And the crowd was rocking the fucking fence and whatnot to get it

because the show wasn't open yet. And the manager or whatever, the foreman, the supervisor was like, everybody get together, get tight. And I was like, what are you talking about? What are you, 300 here? Yeah, when they fucking break through, I'm letting them go. We didn't have a fucking Stoppa 80s hairband

fucking crazy fans group. Stampede? Like, no. Get the fuck out of here. Maybe $7 an hour. Fuck off. I'm not getting bit by a rattlesnake for some white trash fucking family

to not get attacked by the rattlesnake. You can deal with that. I'm not doing that. Dude, if I was a teacher this year, I'm going to find another teaching job. Fuck that noise. Suck a dick. Peace out. Dude, I saw a tweet today that was something like, the teacher was like, I'm using the

straps that are given to us in order to lock down our classrooms for active shooters. I'm using those to measure out how far the kids have to be socially distanced. It's like, get the fuck out of here. Go fucking work at fucking Subway. Like, get the fuck. You probably make more goddamn money. Like, it is not worth that at all. Now, being a teacher is the worst to begin with,

let alone when you're risking your fucking health. And again, we've talked about this before. There was, like, an article in McSweeney's it's like titled like sharpies or something like that and it's it's more about the covid but it touches on uh the issue we've always discussed where teachers like i have to spend all my own money to to do to buy the classroom supplies why just don't fucking do it don't do that don't do that you don't have to spend your money to do it they don't even need those supplies they're not even really looking at them so fuck off um i mean would you would you do it though They don't even need those supplies. They're not even really looking at them, so fuck off.

I mean, would you do it, though? Like, if you could survive, would you like to have that story in your repertoire? Oh, I'd get bit by a snake. Yeah. I don't really need... That doesn't impress me much, though. It doesn't need to be venomous. Like, when YP did that video, I was like, yo, next time you're doing it, shout me out. I'll come.

Yeah, not me. I'll go get bit by a snake. I mean, I guess it's a good story But I'm all set on that I'm all good I mean a shark would really be preferential Yeah see that to me Like I survived a shark attack I think that's got some juice to it

Punch it in the eye Yeah that doesn't work There's no way that works Oh I don't know I just You know I think it's hard enough to throw a punch Let alone an

Underwater Underwater to an eye Hitting like a fucking Like it's like a brick wall. Probably it feels like I think I think more than punching. You got to poke it. You got to get into its eyeballs. Like, yeah, no kidding.

But guess what's in his eye? It's mouth. I'm going to bite my fucking arm off. God damn it. All right. One more voicemail and then we'll get into our interviews. Last voicemail of the day is brought to you by Miller Lite. Miller Lite, the number one beer in the goddamn world.

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after walking on my back she uh said okay time to turn over and at that point I turn over and with the sheet over me of course but I am a hundred percent hard and I just looked and I'm like oh fuck I'm pitching a tent and there's nothing I can do about it. And the next thing she does is, like, pushes the sheet, like, over my junk, but holds my leg out and just starts massaging my leg and, like, up my inner thigh, which doesn't help my mass erection. Not that it's massive, just that it was extremely hard. And then she keeps going, and then eventually I get soft again. Now my question is, is it

more awkward for her that I got hard or more disrespectful to her that I didn't stay hard? Let me know. I mean, I think you were probably supposed to get a handjob there, no? Why? You're at a Thai massage place? I don't think so. She's telling you to flip over?

No? I mean, I would have guessed that was a happy ending situation for sure. Well, if she was supposed to, wouldn't she have done it? why you're a tie massage place i don't think she's telling you to flip over no i mean i would have i would have guessed that was a happy ending situation for sure well if he was supposed to wouldn't if she has done it i don't know if not if you did you know if you lose your boner i i i don't know the i i don't think it's it's weird for them yeah i imagine this happens a lot that's something that happens i mean you're getting massaged right an erotic thing right uh so yeah i don't think it's like you're getting a something that happens. I mean, you're getting massaged. It's an erotic thing. Right. So, yeah, I don't think it's like... Especially if you're getting a toe in the ass. What?

Especially if you're almost getting a toe in the ass. I would feel incredibly uncomfortable. I would say no. If they roll up, I'd be like, no. No? If you knew you had a boner or just period? Yeah, no. If I knew I had a boner.

I'd be like, no, that's not going to happen. I don't know. When that happens, you're stuck. What are you going to do? You know what? Maybe I would turn over and be like, look, that's not going to happen. I don't know. When that happens, you're stuck. What are you going to do? Maybe I would turn over and be like, look. It's natural. This is what you did. Yeah, when he says, which is more awkward, it's like, well, she earned that. You know, she's like, damn, I did a good

job. And then you lose it. It's like, I don't know. Well, maybe he liked the toe in the ass a little bit better. She's an adult woman. She knows Dick's not going to stay hard forever without fucking Dick stuff going on. It's true. It's true. I'll get random boners when i'm being massaged guess what the dick doesn't get into play he goes home eventually he's like all right you know i've been here long enough it's not happening it's like you're going to a party like well no one's talking to me so i'm getting out of here i came what else did you want me to do you didn't come yeah you're right

yeah i showed up all right you guys didn't want to play with me so i'm going home i'm sure those people have seen every erection under the sun yeah without this is it you know your dick i will i look at dicks through sheets all day long that's just how it goes here so i don't think any of it i think they've seen it all that there's i bet they're not like oh he's got a boner oh he lost it i think it's just like this is yeah another appendage absolutely it's like people do like wax it. I think it's just like this is another appendage. Absolutely. It's like people do like waxing for a career. It's just like I look at assholes and pussies and it does not affect me at fucking all.

So I wouldn't worry one way or another about your boner. She ain't. I was last night. I was out at the bar and I was talking to my bartending buddies at factory and they're Irish. Did you know that after college, Irish kids just go to Thailand for months? I did not know that. Yeah. A long time. All of them? It's just like a thing.

I was asking. I was like, people speak English there? He's like, oh, it's mostly Australians. He's like, tons of Australians, Irish, British. I think he said some of them are Greek people. He's like, we we go and then me and scotty are talking about it and then killian is another and these are the bartenders and also the owners um and killian's walking by and sky's like hey killian did you do uh you do thailand he goes

nine weeks like that's how long thailand is like lawless too I feel like you go to Thailand for that long you can get into some shit they got arrested at the bribe of cops guess how much it cost to bribe a cop

it's probably like a hundred bucks a dollar a single a euro to get out of like you know probably badly

I think it was just drunk but like they didn't commit a real crime they were gonna go into Thai jail and he's like

it was a dollar to a bribe Thailand bro that was an all time moment from the president recently Thailand commit a real crime. Right. They were going to go into Thai jail. Right. And he's like, it was a dollar to arrival. Thailand, bro. That was an all time moment from the president recently. Thailand. That's Henny's.

And when Hank is making those mistakes, Jesus. All right, let's do it. The moment you've all been waiting for. Steve-O on KFC radio. Buckle up for an hour

plus with a fucking legend. Let's do it. All right. There he is. Look at this spot. Oh, there's Wendy. Wendy was giving you my first right. There he is. Look at this spot. Oh, there's Wendy. Wendy was giving you my first question. There she is.

Yeah, dude. My girl. How's she doing? How long has it been? Two years now? Oh, shit. Oh, my God. I found her on August 9th of 2017, so yesterday was her third year.

No shit, man. Congratulations, bro. Yeah, I appreciate that, man. Thank you, dude. I'm looking at the words above your head, wild ride. And, um, I don't think there's ever been a more apropos phrase for someone and the life they've lived in the career they've had then wild ride for steve-o huh well thanks man you know i wanted to uh avoid getting a podcast of my own for as long as i possibly could like i never actually thought i would do it because it was so annoying the worst question for years will you do my podcast no i don't want to fucking do your podcast every asshole has one and then finally uh it became more and more clear like shit i actually have to jump on the bandwagon

myself so well thanks for doing our podcast a couple assholes here that wanted to talk to you yeah i get it dude you know like uh You guys have a huge, successful podcast. You guys are the exception to the rule. Wow, thank you. And congratulations on that. Thank you. For me, I thought, if I'm going to jump on this bandwagon, at least let me make it convenient for people.

So I bought this Class B motorhome, which allows me to bring the studio to the guests oh that's smart yeah that's very cool yeah that's that's what wild ride it's it's it's my wild ride i got this crazy rv well i mean it is something too where uh i do think every asshole has a podcast and a lot of people have one that shouldn't. I think you are the exception to that rule though, because you are wildly fascinating and for everybody, but particularly for people like, like us in our age group.

And I am sure you've heard this a million times before, but you and the jackass crew and the movies and the stunts and everything you've done. I mean, we, it molded an entire fucking generation. And so I think we would watch videos, watch your stand-up, listen to the podcast, anything you put out, I think we would consume

because that's what Steve-O is to a lot of young guys and girls, but mostly a lot of young guys who grew up on you. Well, shit, man. Thank you, dude. I appreciate all of the kind words. I think what my buddies and I did was somehow culturally significant. You know, I don't know about it. Somehow? Yeah, definitely, dude. Definitely, man. Incredibly culturally significant. There wasn't something as culturally significant as jackass until Jersey Shore.

Seriously. It really was. It was that big of a gap. It was like a 15-year gap between, like, generations. And it was you guys who led one. And shout out to MTV. They had both. But I think from the void of, like, humongously important. Yeah, I mean, you were reality reality tv but not in the reality tv sense

there was there were just a huge gap of things that like changed the world and changed how people acted and i think you guys really really led the charge on that one man but you're completely leaving out uh vh1's rock of love and flavor of and flavor love don't forget uh don't forget flavor flave he's an important one too right for sure now dude people ask me constantly like every interview like was there a stunt that was just too much where you were like dude i just i just can't you know uh i shouldn't do that when you backed off off. And I have two answers to the question. One is I wouldn't get duct taped to a mechanical bull because I figured that would give me a spinal cord injury. Smart man.

That's the boring answer. which was responsible for flavor of love and rock of love, actually reached out to me in the two thousands about doing the same format with Steve-O. And, and, and I, I totally, my first thought was there's no fucking way I'm going to let 30 chicks tell the entire world how fast I come. And like, man, I say that to be funny, but at the same time, it's 100% serious. Yeah. Yo, I'll tell you what.

I would have watched the fucking shit out of that show, Steve-O. I would have loved to see. I mean, that's the one thing, you know, I can't even imagine what it's like to date Steve-O, to be like in a relationship with him. It to be fucking wild man how was your day at work honey well you know i don't know i got fucking eaten by an alligator and we can't have sex for a few days because i put paper cuts on my dick or whatever you know well are we allowed to give well it's not a spoiler about about by all means man if you guys checked out my new gnarly special, dude, I don't have any fucking thing precious about Describe. Thank you for watching.

Well, Lux, who is now your fiancée. Sure. She's my fiancée. That was one of your craziest stunts ever, because what if she said no? The whole special's then well dude again again thank you so much for watching it i i'm just so fucking excited about it man like i uh you know i did my first special for showtime and um that one uh i was so psyched about it it was juicy as fuck it was like i thought all the haters are gonna shut up now i'm gonna be an established stand-up comedian and dude that special came and

went and nothing about my life was different and i was like you know i didn't let it deter me i was okay all right i get it you know like uh what people are used to seeing from steve-o and like it's a tough it's a tough uh leap to sit there and watch me talking to a microphone for an hour you know and so i made i made what i considered like important adjustments i was like all right i'm gonna keep doing standup, but now I'm going to make it fucking like fully multimedia. I'm going to do like, like next level stunts and I'm going to bake it in. I'm going to take the, the standup that I'm doing in these, these outrageous stories. And I'm going to cut the footage of the stories happening into the fucking standup. And dude,

it's never been done i had my head exploded when i came up with the idea and i just started recording my shows and editing in the footage and it was working so well i was like dude i just want to be more fucked up shit so i end up like filming the grand finale i gotta get skin grafts on 15% of my body. I was like, dude, I've got the ender, you know, and I just kept going for it and going for it. And then I got the whole jackass cast together to fucking shoot for it too. And it, it just ended up being this, like, just this, I think it's a masterpiece.

Yeah. Like a culmination of everything you've kind of been doing. Right. Right. All of my world's married into one you know like it's yeah it's like a jackass movie it's a stand-up special it's a documentary it's like it's got all the guys it's fucking completely not allowed on fucking youtube or fucking like it's fucked up you know there there are some parts so first of all when i first started it i really didn't know what to expect. I didn't know what I was getting into. And then, like, it starts with Knoxville.

You're getting taped to a billboard. And then Knoxville just fucking firing baseballs at you off a bat. And I was like, oh, we're right back in it. Yeah, like playing the hits. We're going to give you what you want. How far exactly were you on that billboard for on the side of that truck oh my god dude it was uh we drove with me taped to the side of the billboard truck for 200 miles that day we we made it to uh just outside of vegas but here's the thing and i'm gonna like put out like a behind the scenes of how we filmed that opening sequence like we knew

that we weren't gonna get out of los angeles with me driving a truck with me taped to the side so what we did was when we when all the guys got done taping me and hitting baseballs at me uh then when it was time to leave and get on the highway and drive you know the fucking truck to the theater uh we mounted a box over you know they screwed it on to the billboard truck like over me i was still yeah i was still taped to the fucking thing but there was a box mounted over me and dude and and and like on the inside of the box i had a little holster for my cell phone. I had my iPad fucking taped up. I had like refreshments. And I'm just duct taped to the side of the truck.

And we got out of Vegas in bumper to bumper traffic. And then when we got to Barstow, we unscrewed the box and just fucking let it ride. So I spent eight hours. I spent eight hours. I spent fucking eight hours. I mean, I can imagine when you're doing some other stunts where it's like you got to gear up, you have your adrenaline, and then you get hit or you eat it or you do whatever it is, and then it's kind of like, you know, you feel the pain,

but it's kind of done. When you're just taped up for eight fucking, like when you're on hour number four and a half, are you just sitting there like, yep, this is what we're doing? I mean, what's going through your mind when you're on hour number four and a half are you just sitting there like yep this is this is this is what we're doing i mean what's going through your mind when you're halfway through an eight hour stunt like that i mean it was uh a great deal of the time like i had all the jackass dudes with me you know like everybody you know i was i mean i was just fucking stoked because it was all going so well and when you know i told the guys i was like hey when you get done taping me up

there i'm gonna be defenseless you know there's gonna be nothing there's gonna be nothing i can do to stop you guys from from whatever the fuck torture you guys want to unleash and it's open season just go for it you know whatever you want So I had no idea what was going to happen and Knoxville showed up with a bucket full of baseballs and a baseball bat. And I was just like, all right. And I can't remember a time when Knoxville's hitting these balls. They're flying at my head so hard. And I can't think of another time where like all the guys are like saying stop stop it's too much it's too much like wow really dude that was a real fucking uh point of pride man

there was like i'm real real stoked that like i don't think anybody's ever seen that do you guys get uh like competitive about it like i i mean i i was so obsessed with jackass that i think of you guys in your element as like jordan and bird and magic and bird where like you guys are like competing with each other and and you're all obviously awesome and you're all stars but you know i want to be the best or the craziest is there any is there any type of competition like that where it's like i'm going to try to outdo you yeah Yeah, I'm sure. Yeah. I mean, absolutely, dude. I think that, you know, what Jackass is, is just a competition for screen time between a bunch of attention whores. And like, the thing is that we're all on the same team. You know, we're working towards a common goal, whatever the project is. If it's a movie, like we want it to be the best movie that it can be so it's not like you you're

you're jealous to the point where like you wish somebody wouldn't get great footage you know it's a win for the team when somebody gets great footage but at the same time you're jealous as fuck i call it i call it footage envy you know like you got we get footage envy and it's like oh dude he did that he did that you know and it just motivates you to to just you know to go for it speaking of motivation what to you was the bigger motivation was it the rush of the stunt adrenaline, or was it the potential for attention and fame? Oh, it's 100% attention. I'm not like by any means like I don't consider myself like a thrill seeker. What are you talking about?

Are you fucking kidding me, Steve? Are you nuts? I really do. kidding me steve are you nuts i really did like like for example and you guys probably won't believe this but i am fucking terrified of roller coasters i don't fucking like them i don't want any part in them you know like you're not gonna get me to go to fucking six flags and ride on a fucking roller coaster that's where you draw the line that's it i just i don't like it and then to me that's like i mean dude i have this other project i fucking hate roller coasters bungee jumping like the idea of skydiving was like i was not okay with it so going back like going back like 20 years for decades

anytime anybody ever asked me like have you been skyiving? Do you want to go skydiving? I would always say, nah, dude, fucking everybody does that, man. That's fucking, I'd be like, I'd be like, dude, that's, that's not a stunt. And the truth was I just didn't want to fucking do it because I don't fucking like it. You know, I'm scab, scab. I don't like the fucking feeling. I'm fucking, I don't want to, so I was trying to avoid doing it. And my way of avoiding doing it was, I said, that's, I said, everybody does that. That's not a stunt. I said, I said,

if I ever go skydiving, you know, because, because the first time you have to have a dude strapped to your back, I'm going to be, I'm going to be butt fucking naked with a dude on my back and i'm gonna be fucking furiously jacking off and i'm gonna time it i'll time it so that when i fall out of the airplane i'm coming everywhere all over fucking everything and uh and then like so i put out this gnarly i taped this gnarly special and uh i didn't even wait i just got straight into fucking the next project and and the next project afterwards isn't even gonna come out i shouldn't

even be talking about it but it's called the bucket list and and the bucket list is like okay now i'm gonna do all those ideas that i had that i just didn't want to do you know oh no wow so this is like steve-o's b-roll yeah i took care of the skyjacking it's done shut up yes i was yes i was gonna fucking tell you as someone who's been skydiving that sounds impossible but you've just already done it yes i did I did it, dude. Dude, it's so funny that I'm just like, I can't wait to watch this guy come and fucking jump out of a plane. Like, you just turned me into this weird fucking person. I want to see the weirdest things from you, Steve. Holy shit, that's incredible.

God, yeah. I'm real happy with it. And, you know, you asked, what's it like to be in a relationship with Steve-O? Like, oh, hey, honey, how was your day? Like, my girl is cool with fucking everything except skyjacking. That was her line. She didn't like it.

I mean, she generally doesn't like it when I got my dick out. Yeah. Fair, fair. She's like, yeah, that dick you know like i don't want you showing it to the whole world right and it was like it was a thing in our relationship and i was like i was like look babe you know whatever i do it's a lot funnier if i got my dick out i was i was gonna say dude steve-o after watching g watching Gnarly, that's my dick too, bro. I've seen that dick so a lot.

I love it, man. I love it. But the thing was, I really just kind of stood my ground. I was like, look, this is work. This is my fucking job. And I'm not – she really had a tough time with it. And I was like, look, it'd be one thing if I had a boner, you know, it's like, I don't have a fucking boner.

I'm not trying to be fucking sexy. And then so like, I got, I got her on board with the dick painting, you know, and this is just something I'm so proud of because like it's kind of tough to uh you know come up with a completely original idea for we've been doing this for a long time you know and like and it's like say for example jackass 3d there was a lot of like recycled shit you know like there's a lot of stuff where it's like okay we did that before but we're kind of finding a new way to do it as far as like totally original things like they're they're they're pretty precious and tough to come by yeah i mean you've done it all like i i mean right but

but i had the with the with the dick painting thing it just it struck me like like like women you know we've all seen women like paint their titties and they're walking around like like no big deal you know like so i'm like well if women can paint their titties and walk around and nobody's upset then i can paint my dick do anything i want that was just like i was like oh my god that's like that's the perfect premise for a fucking bit and it's exactly fell in line with what i was trying to do with like yo i'm done with like hey everybody steve-o the stand-up comic no dude i'm gonna do fucking multimedia comedy and so there's my there's there's my fucking funny joke and the premise. Now let's go out and film it. So I needed to, I was like, okay, so if I'm going to paint my dick, what's the, like, what does it look like?

What's the actual bit when I shoot it? I'm thinking, okay, well, automatically my mind goes to spandex because it's as tight as clothing gets. So I'll paint on like spandex shorts. And then I'm like, okay, so i'll be a cyclist so i'll put together the whole costume with my 10 speed bicycle the helmet everything and but the shorts will just be painted on and then i'll go ride a bicycle around and crash it in front of random dudes so they see like they see this violent crash and then they'll come over to like reach their hand out to help me up. And as they help me up, my dog will be fucking flopping around like it's classic.

And that was that was where like that was that represented. And by the way, that's that scene is in this this new special. Yeah. You didn't you didn't you didn't do the makeup artist any favors. You went fucking full bush on that she's painting she's painting through a tree trying to get to right but that's the thing the makeup artist is my girl oh that was a lot there's a loophole i didn't i didn't meet lux until she came on stage i didn't realize that yeah of course of course and and that's what was so dope was that, that we had that, like that little issue around like, yo,

she got like really uncomfortable. She's like, why do you get, because it really bothers me the way you get naked all the time. I don't like it. But then we obviously had worked through it. We'd like that, that her painting my dick for that bit represented us like overcoming. Yeah. Symbolic. It's like, all right, I don't like when your dick's out, but if I can paint it and do what I do to your dick before you present it now, now it's our dick out there to the world.

Right. And dude, she helped, she helped with fucking like produce every bit for them. Like duct taping me to the side of the truck. She helped with fucking, like, produce every bit for the, like, duct taping me to the side of the truck. Like, she fucking facilitated that whole shoot, you know? Like, walking around with the clipboard, getting all the signatures. Like, full-on producer shit. And she painted my dick.

When I swallowed Pontius's whole load of cum in front of my dad. Like, uh. I'll be honest with you, Steve-O, real quick. I was watching your special in the morning, and I had to skip that part. I was like, I'm a puke, man. You gotta be in the right frame of mind to watch

someone swallow a load of his buddy's cum. Holy shit. Yeah. She did it all, man. She was there when I blew myself up. We did the thing blowing up my living room on July 3rd. That's full-on summer, Hollywood Hills, fucking LA, Fire Hazard Central.

We've got all these explosions going on in the house where smoke is just fucking you know billowing out of the house as if the whole house is on fire and uh and and you know she's just managing it the whole it's fucking rad it's fucking rad and i'm stoked i'm stoked that uh you know that here i've, I'm like fully fucking reinvented the, this did the, the comedy special in a way that literally like the only guy, I mean, maybe a couple of the guys in your crew, but such a limited list of people who could do what you did with the footage and, and kind of, like you said, multimedia incorporating it. I mean,

you're that's the only, the only guy who can give you that right now is steve fucking oh man now thank you again for watching it too man i love it dude like but there are parts of it like there's one part in particular where really you go through what you went through with addiction and stuff like that and some of the footage is like it's crazy and it's real. And it's kind of sad too, to see someone in such a man state. Was it important for you to kind of like include that and show what it was like? Really? I think that, uh, that, that for, if I had a purpose and everything, there was no like, Oh, I need to,

uh, you know, save the world and shit and shit no it's just like my story and it's fucking fucked up and crazy or sad or whatever as it gets like i just wanted every little bit to be you know as intense as i could make it you know like i don't like oh it's a comedy special and we're gonna get dark you know yeah bring it on you know like i don't fucking care i don't have any rules that i'm trying to follow. And I don't give a fuck how dark it got. I don't give a fuck. I mean, the dark stuff is usually the funniest. Like, when you're talking about fighting with your neighbor, like, it's hilarious.

And it's, like, it's also something that's very relatable, only it's almost like you're doing what everyone wanted to do. Right. Because you, like, you know, when the neighbor calls the cops on you you're like i want to stick my fucking speakers in your wall yeah like you piss off but you were so like you know gone out there and you're like he's gonna fucking do it so it was like it was crazy to see but it was also hilarious when you know talking about fucking charging walls like with javelins and shit ah dude yeah man i didn't give a fuck dude like when you have footage like that that's that's pretty old is this like when you're putting together gnarly did you always have that in mind like i'm gonna put the footage with my neighbor into that or is that something when you're putting it together

you kind of just go through your whole archive see what you've got oh this is you know five years old ten years whatever it may be and what makes the cut what it was when and i wish it started out like so deliberate where i was like oh i'm gonna do this really what it was was as soon as i taped my first special like when i when i taped my first special i had just been arrested for uh the the sea world climbing up the crane thing and uh and and it was like big in the news like i had just been sentenced to 30 days in jail and it was like i'm getting so much press and i wanted that first special to kind of capitalize on that so i called the first special guilty as charged and like you know it had nothing to do with my criminal record but i remember when i went down like i like i was trying to figure out how to like like put

together some kind of comedy about like there was about the the arrest and like i was trying to work it out but like it just didn't fit with what that special was and uh and so so i didn't even fuck with it as soon as i got done taping that special then now i'm putting together the new hour and i was like oh okay let me start with how i've been arrested for so much shit that's a good starting point you know it's a good starting point to go on a journey through my criminal record and uh what i found was like like very pretty short into it as i'm putting one night i'm just performing and i'm like holy fuck dude like i'm telling all these crazy stories but there's footage of everything i'm talking about you know like that the act came

first it wasn't a question of going through the archives to find like what would make the cut i put together the act based on like what's the most outrageous shit i can talk about and and it just occurred to me that there was footage to back everything up but of course the footage you know like like it was all old shit so that was the only thing my head exploded and i'm like all right i'm gonna fucking start taping my shows and i'm gonna edit the footage in and it totally worked but then i've got self-conscious about like man it's gonna be depressing to be like going down memory lane for the fuck you know like the glory you know like you know living in the

past kind of sucks so so i was like all right this works, but let me start filming new shit. So the way that it plays, there's some old story, some old arrest, and then I let that inspire a new stunt. And then we go back on track, and each bit essentially inspires some new jackass stunt. And fuck, man, I got so in love with it dude especially because i've been like i've been making youtube videos for a good long time now and it's like you gotta follow their fucking rules they slap you on the wrist and maybe they they delete your shit they give you a strike you know like fuck that dude i got so fed up with with with uh obeying their rules so that

i can give away my fucking work right and i'm like and i'm like dude it was all just like fuck youtube i'm gonna go ahead and swallow my bro's cum you know because because fuck them you know because fuck them you know you really showed them Steve-O you stuck it to them good the guys at YouTube like oh fuck he got us he's swallowing cum again yeah you know I'm gonna

go out of my way to fucking what's rad is that what was a journey through my criminal record, I broke the law and everything. Driving down the highway, duct taped to the side of a truck, totally illegal. Walking around with your dick out, okay, granted it was painted. Still, totally fucking illegal.

And I picked a pretty weird, you know, like, for where we're at in this moment of culture in our society, I picked a fucking banger of a time to go walking around with my dick out. You actually said earlier, though, you were like, I'm going to crash in front of guys. Did you intentionally just crash in front of guys i did yeah yeah we we tried our asses off to leave women and children out of that um you know like we we had we had a bike rack on the back of the car and uh so we would like you know be like kind of creeping around and we'd see like there's a couple dudes there's nobody around that's why i would jump out grab the bike off and get on it real quick and just go and crash in front of them but at one point there was one point when uh when i when we picked the dudes i

get out of the car and there was just happened to be a fucking car next to us they had all these like some little soccer team getting out of it. I remember, I remember being like, Oh my God. And I dove back in our car. Like I was like, guys, we're done with this.

Yeah. I do. I feel like you guys do have some sort of code that you live by, right? Like as wild as it is where you don't give a fuck about, it's almost like you don't give a fuck about yourself and like your own personal physical and emotional feelings, but you do make

sure that you don't i mean i guess there are there are people who have probably been affected by your pranks and shit but for the most part i feel you guys do kind of take them into account dude i'm i'm really proud to say that that uh i think that there's something legitimately wholesome about jackass. Like from the beginning, like at your right, like as, as reckless, as fucking irresponsible, you know, as self-destructive, like we only target ourselves and each other. And we've been like, we've been really like, like careful not to be like mean spirited.

Like the spirit of everything we do is, uh, is just not mean. And like, there's something about that. That's really, uh, it's, it's really like likable. That's why we all like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And, uh, you know, there's the chemistry between us. There's that, we, that our ability to like be okay with looking uncool, you know, there's the chemistry between us. There's that. We, the, our ability to like be okay with looking uncool, you know, like to not take yourself seriously, I think is important.

And, uh, I mean, whenever there's a bunch of ingredients that just worked out, it's like 20 years. How does that crew come together? Like, I know,

you know, the CKY guys were doing, you know, their thing. And then like, do you meet Knoxville and, and these guys through just like well there's only a handful of us out here who are willing to fucking you know

right do this shit so we got to roll together there were two camps uh there there was bam's cky crew and then there was there was big brother skateboardingboarding Magazine. And the Big Brother Skateboarding Magazine was this awful fucking... I mean, it's so funny to talk about how Jackass was not mean-spirited when the origins of Jackass coming from Big Brother Magazine, which was totally not that.

It was the skateboarding magazine that was just for the purpose of just being fucking terrible and awful. The way that this magazine started, there was a guy who owned a conglomerate, a skateboard conglomeration of companies called World Industries. And he was just a fucking maniac.

His name was Steve Rocco. And so his idea of like promotion for, for his, for his company, he, he, he would just do fucked up shit and the magazines Thrasher and trans world. He submits this ad and the ad is a little kid, maybe like fucking like 10 years old and the kid has a gun in his mouth and the ad just says it says world industries kill yourself and that was the ad that's all there was to it and that's perfectly yeah and that that was what that was

what steve rocco was all about and world industries. And he submitted that ad to Thrasher magazine, to Transworld Skateboarding magazine, and they both sent it back. They said, look, if you think we're going to run that ad, you're out of your mind. There's no way. So Steve Rocco, the guy who's trying to run the ad, he's like, oh, you don't like my fucking ad?

And one of the magazines said, yeah, actually, I personally am upset by it because one of my best friends in high school killed himself. And so Steve Rock was like, oh, yeah, okay. Well, I'm really starting to hear that. But maybe you could make a whole fucking list of every little bad thing that ever happened to you

in your whole fucking life so I can model the way I run my business around your little sensibilities, fucking pussy. And he says, and he says, you know, he says, you know what? He says, fuck Thrasher, fuck trans world, you know, fuck, fuck you both. I'm never going to run a fucking ad in either of your magazines again. Fuck you. I'm going to start my own magazine. That was how Big Brother Magazine started.

Steve Rocco, just as a vendetta or something, he started the skateboard. The only purpose for Big Brother Magazine was to serve as a forum for filth that would never be allowed or to be published in thrash or trans world. That was the only reason for it. So many successful businesses came right out of spite.

That's it. I respect the hell out of that. You know what though? That's a perfect example. Like you guys, who you are as people and the timing of it all. Like, I don't know if,

you know, there was like a perfect point in history for Jackass and all this shit to come together. If you tried to do it now, forget about it. Everyone's too sensitive. If you tried to do it a little bit earlier, you know, TV and the internet's not really around yet. I mean, it was like this one, the only time in like human history that it could have worked. And you guys were the right age at the right time and the right place. It's amazing.

It's a little, it's a little bit lightning in a bottle for sure. But yeah, so, so big brother magazine starts and the editor in chief was, was Jeff Tremaine. And he's the jackass director. And,

and like, dude, they fucking, they, they had articles like, like, like they're journalistic integrity, you know, like when they know like when they wrote when they

published the article about the 10 most effective ways to commit suicide like they did their research you know like they were like and this is a magazine that was like targeted at little kids it was chalk filled with

it was chalkock filled with rice and then it was chock full of fucking complete nudity full frontal nudity you know like and it's just not legal they had like how to like how to buy crack you know on the street like and again like total journalistic integrity like and then at one point they got in a lot of trouble because they had uh they would have themes for their issues you know and and like i mean dude there was a kid's issue and the famous skateboarder ryan ryan sheckler you know ryan sheckler was eight years old at the time eight years old on the cover i don't like where this is going and then they got they got a lot of fucking backlash there's a lot of uh for the shit that they were asking kids like would you fuck your mom if that would make you a pro skater you know

shit like that like uh you know it was just like so larry flint found out out about the kids issue. And he saw it as a First Amendment issue. Larry Flint bought Big Brother magazine. Steve Rocco was just over it. He's like, all right. So Steve Rocco sold Big Brother magazine to Larry Flint. And that was the first issue that I was in was the first one published by Larry Flint. And meanwhile, they're putting out videos of, uh, of everything.

And they had a cult following. So Jeff Tremaine reached out to Spike Jones, the big movie director. And Jeff Tremaine says, yo, Spike, my, my big brother videos are like seriously like fucking catching like you know like a cult following like they're they're really they're so popular but nobody gives a fuck about the skateboarding he says i think if like if if we if we subtract the skateboarding and just make it the antics then that could be a fucking tv show and so they cut out the skateboarding and just make it the antics then that could be a fucking tv show and so they cut out the skateboarding and then what was left was me and knoxville and we man and man they joined with bam and they put it together and that's how it started i mean that show to me it's like i think

of chapelle show when that came out and when jackass came out of the two shows that stick in my mind as like i mean the most like important cultural fucking moments for me. I mean, that was appointment TV for me at the age of what? Probably like 14, 15, whatever. Do you guys, do you guys like appreciate that? Like, do you appreciate that you raised a generation of kids? Like, like that we all had camcorders and trying to hurt ourselves. Like, like you probably took down like,

or you ticked up like the death rate between 18 to 35 where it's like all right a couple of these guys that was how we got that was how we got the movie fucking deal was because when it came out as a tv show on mtv uh like immediately there were fucking kids showing up in hospitals all over yeah all over the country you know like it was like you know they were playing they started out playing reruns of jackass at like 5 p.m like kids were coming home from school yeah like definitely yeah i remember like all these kids are getting hospitalized everywhere and uh and there was like a big movement like even like a political movement like where like senators and shit were like campaigning against.

We've got to stop this fucking jackass shit. And MTV was like scared of lawsuits. And they were like, you know, there's just all this heat on them. And so they turned around with us and they started started telling us like yo you know like this isn't this oh no this isn't allowed you know they were like in fear and so then knoxville said oh well if you think i'm gonna water down our fucking jackass you know shit over like fuck you i quit you know and then all of us all of us little guys were like wait wait hon noxville what do you mean he quit like i think he knew all along that that where the

the concern was over lawsuits and liability for little kids getting hurt that that uh if if it was a movie with an r rating and that would like give, then that would give a little bit of, I don't know, some protection. Well, and also, listen, that disclaimer you ran at the beginning of every episode, it's fucking iconic. So in my mind, you guys covered your bases. Nothing wrong there. That makes sense.

He wanted to be a movie star all along. Right. He wanted to be a fucking movie star, and he. You know, he wanted, he wanted to be a fucking movie star and he was like, all right, fuck this basic cable shit. You know, like they're trying to, you know,

they had never had a bigger profit margin. There was the highest. Yeah. Were you guys getting, do you get like paid for that? Like as an actor would? No, no.

Right. It's just like, yeah, no, not a dime. Like, were you getting anything? The residuals? No, like no yeah no not a dime like were you getting anything the residuals no like uh not at all and like i got paid per bit for uh for the for the first season

if it if i was if it wasn't per episode it was per bit and if uh if if the bit was legitimately dangerous, risking bodily fucking grievous bodily harm, then I got paid 500 bucks for the bit. Oh my God. If the bit was like a prank or something that was low impact where there wasn't a risk of getting hurt i got 200 bucks and so like and i filmed the whole first season in uh you know over the span of five days i only filmed on i think three of those days but at the end of that trip i was i had my finger all bandaged up because it was bitten by a shark. I was like, just fucking like, I was all beat up. And I was like, and I remember like the last thing before they took off, like the crew, like I pulled out a piece of paper and I wrote down,

like a list of, of, of what, what I expected would, would be worse, you know, making the cut of on TV, you know, not because that, not because I like, it was an invoice that I expected to not because i like it was an invoice that i expected to be paid more like it was like hey make sure you don't let any of this slip through the cracks you know these are these this is what i got and uh the first thing i wrote on the list was uh was the goldfish you know right now this was my mentality at the time right i figured while i'm writing down the bits you know

i might as well put next to it like what i what i expect to be paid right and i wrote down goldfish keep in mind i could have fucking i could i could choke down that thing it could come up backwards and ravaged my throat like i you know i i wrote down goldfish and then next to it I wrote 200. I'll never forget it. Like, I'll never forget it because, like, I, like, as a point of pride, like, I wanted to be, because I was like, I wanted to be considered a dude that was so fucking gnarly yeah that that was that that was just like low impact you know like like it was like i'm so gnarly i only want 200 yeah that ain't shit exactly and uh and i after taxes like you know they withheld the taxes in that check and dude i got i think it was less than $1,500 for the entire first season.

Shut up, dude. And those were all your ideas, too, right? It's not just like, it's not someone writing the bit and then you go out and put your body in danger. It's you coming up with the creative as well. Oh, my God. The profit margin you write is fucking insane. But correct me if I'm wrong. I feel like if MTV said, like, you know what? We're not going to pay you anything. We We're just gonna give you airtime. I feel like you crazy motherfuckers would have done it anyway. One of us, and he was probably the most talented guy. He was only on the TV shows. And then he opted out of being a part of the movie.

He was from the CKY videos, Brandon D Camilla. Oh yeah. Like Brandon D Camilla was like the most fucking talented one of us. Like he did not have to get hurt. He did not have to like, you know, he was just so naturally fucking talented that like whatever he did it was just it was amazing what do you mean as far as like humor you mean yeah just being talented you know like with his like his freestyle rap like if he was part of the bit

like there could be something going on and just his commentary like him and ponies were like that you know but he and Pontius were were just these naturally gifted like uh personalities and uh when it came time to do the movie Brandon D Camillo said uh I'm not I'm not gonna be a part of the movie he goes I don't want to make more fucking money for these corporate assholes he's like I'm saying he says i'm sick of making fucking money for these fucking like uh corporate shitheads and i remember just being so confused by that i was like brandon what you're talking about is as though so you're not going to make any money for anybody yeah right i i was like you know what i i am gonna make as much money for those corporate fucking assholes as I possibly can.

Because in the process, they're going to be making a monster. They're going to turn me into a monster. And I'm going to break out and laugh. And then I'm going to fucking be a pain in the butt. I'm not going to dissolve into obscurity out of spite to the man. I'm going to fucking pay my dues and I'm going to fucking have my own deal. Well, yeah. I mean, like I said, it's like when you were sticking it to YouTube by swallowing the cum.

It's like, I mean, breaking news, Brandon, like those corporate assholes, they're going to make money anyway on somebody fucking else. So it might as well be you and your movie franchise and your success was, was the movies when you, uh, when you made some real cash, like when, when would you start to really profit from this lifestyle? Uh, yeah. I mean, I'd say that like starting out as so, so absurdly taken advantage of. Yeah.

Like, over the course of it all, like, there's, like, you know, it's gotten better, it's gotten better, but it's always, like, I don't know. I mean, it's all relative. It's all relative. But, yeah, I think we did pretty well. Well, I just hope you're doing all right now.

I mean, I just, seriously, like did pretty well. Well, I just hope you're doing all right now. I mean, I just seriously like you, you, you gave so much. And I know it sounds like a shit you wanted to do and you get you get some satisfaction out of it. But you gave so fucking much to entertain like my whole generation. I think I wish I could give you like a billion dollars because that's how that's what you gave up for us. You know, I mean, I appreciate that so much and like at my core like what motivates me is to try to entertain people to be like

an attention whore is what I'm all about and you know so it's all good and you know and I love that I'm you know I love that I did this fucking crazy gnarly thing and I'm putting it out on my own. Yeah, yeah.

Fuck everybody. I'll fuck everybody. And with that said, I think that Netflix could have put it out. I think that Netflix could have put with the cum, and there's a bunch of cum in it. It's really the cum that's the problem i think the cum i mean there's a lot there's a lot of like hardcore drugs there's a lot of criminal activity you know like there's like there's like really fucking you know like so

self-harm you know but despite all of the fucked up shit that's in there i think netflix could have put it out and their position was that nah like we don't want to give a comedy special to like a crossover guy like steve oh he's not he's not a real he's not a real stand-up comedian and i'm just like i was so fucking pissed and like i mean i was actually really fucking hurt because i pictured that i was like dude netflix has every jackass movie on the platform you know like they've got the metrics for how popular jackass is this is just a complete fucking no-brainer but whatever the guy who was in charge of buying comedy specials is just like no i'm a comedy snob and

i'm and i'm not interested that's crazy then i would i was hurt by that but I was just like fuck it I didn't let it slow me down I kept fucking barging it and in hindsight I honestly think that that'll end up being a blessing because I own the fucking thing now granted just to shoot it by the time it was shot

I had spent over a quarter million dollars producing this fucking thing. Like, yeah, when you've got like the whole fucking media truck and all like the tape, it was it was like 120 grand just shooting in the theater. And then like with all the other like all the special bits that I shot for it, you know, it was kind of like shooting a fucking jackass movie but uh and then to get to the point of putting it out with like i i hired like the same like anti-piracy fucking uh company that like movie studios use with the fucking like the publicist with all the fucking like uh it's crazy like the spending to get to the point of putting it out on my own website building the player into my website with the paywall and shit so now it's like 300 grand that i've that i

invested in this fucking thing and that like was terrifying for me because like i'm not a fucking corporation you know like i'm just i'm just like a fucking i'm just like an artist that I want to fucking do my thing. But I think at the end of the day, I will prove that it was totally a fucking wise investment. And dude, I'm getting pretty close already. Thank you for helping me get the word out there. And like, it's been, it's been like three, like we soft launched on the website, like three or maybe four weeks ago and uh so far i've brought in um like over 200 grand yeah good and it's like it's you know so like i'm i'm approaching break even and uh dude i'll just tell you right now like there's a strong chance I get arrested again this week.

As a promotional stunt to get the word out about it. And I don't know if that's just going to create more fucking restitution, more fines, more legal fees, where it's just going to be like, okay, that was a bad idea. But that was a bad idea but i don't fucking care i don't fucking care you know and uh i'm gonna still own it i believe that you know say like when we get our jackass four maybe i don't know if you guys know but we started we started filming jackass four i don't think i know let's fucking go I do not think I knew that I hadn't watched Jackass in probably a little while and I went on a ski trip this past year, maybe two years ago and we were staying at a house where

they didn't have wifi, like an old ski house up in Vermont they didn't have wifi, they just had a DVD player and the only DVD they had there was Jackass 2 and we were like fuck it, let's put it in that's the one me and my six buddies on a ski trip i don't think we laughed that hard yeah and like we hadn't laughed that hard probably since the first time we saw jackass 2 or the last time we saw jackass 2 we were all and like we're a little high we're a little drunk and but

like we were fucking dying absolutely fucking dying it's timeless comedy it's it will play forever like this this special will play forever it's fucking i like to think so man yeah i really like to think so dude i was so fucking hurt that uh that i couldn't find a home for it and i had to put it out on my own but like no that's a good thing that's the way the world is going now man right i think it is man and and like i you know i I've seen like, you know, there was like a, some female comedian that felt that she wasn't being paid enough for a

special. And she was, she was telling everybody like, Hey, boycott Netflix. I would never do that, dude. Like Netflix just has too much good shit. I fucking, you know, I love it. Fucking by all means, dude, fucking Bravo Netflix for having such great programming. But at the same time, everybody who's listening to this, please help me extend a middle finger to them for just not buying my shit. Prove them wrong. Prove them fucking wrong.

We owe it to Steve-O. Just straight up, no doubt about it, you owe it to Steve-O. Motherfucker was getting $200 to swallow goldfish, $500 to put his life on the line. Yo, you put your life on the line so much, do you think that there's a chance? I was speculating about this the other day. Do you think that there's a chance that you're a superhero

and you just wanted attention too much to, like, go do good? Because, like, you know, like, in a superhero movie, when the superhero falls out of, like, a sixth-floor building and you're like, he wouldn't have survived that. That's not possible. Like Steve, you survived that. You're unbreakable,

dude. That's so funny, man. And thank you, dude. Uh, yeah, I don't know about superhero or any shit like that,

but, uh, you got a rare, I got a rare talent, dude. I, if I ever get super rich, I'm just cutting you a massive check,

man. That, that, that's have you ever is there anything like that i could see like are there any like sick rich people who want to do like pay you to do like private events i would hire steve-o and the gang to come like entertain the crew dude that's funny man i've never i've never really i i once uh i once got paid like 10 grand to go to a kid's bar mitzvah. Yo, I was just going to joke, jackass bar mitzvahs.

What did you do at the bar mitzvah? I mean, it was like a skateboarding themed bar mitzvah. We went to the skate park and fucking skated. And then like at the actual bar mitzvah, there were like little ramps and stuff. Oh man, I'm just picturing you at the bar mitzvah and it's like, I'm going to drink your cum. You're a man now. Lime. Oh my God. But yeah. And I remember at the time, like, uh,

my family lives in Florida and this was like, uh, the bar mitzvah was in Florida and I was like, Oh dude, like it's a free trip to go home and I was like, oh, dude, it's a free trip to go home and visit my family. There you go. I'm not really looking to book barmints. It was fun, man.

It was a good time. I got one more. They picked me up on the chair. Were you wearing a yarmulke? Did you do the whole night? I don't? Were you wearing a yarmulke? Did you do the whole night? I don't think I was wearing a yarmulke. I did good. I can't remember, but I don't think I was.

I got one more question about Gnarly, which is available on steveo.com. The flight to Sweden, which inspired the Pontius bit. Oh, God. What made you get on that flight in so much pain? Why did you go to the hospital? I mean, dude, they were telling me, like, yo, dude, fucking fuck flying to Sweden.

I had, like, for people who don't know, this was my international drug smuggler bit where I was like, you know, I swallowed a big fucking condom filled with marijuana and hash and the shit got stuck in my throat. And I was like trying to fucking puke it up because I was like, dude, stuck in my throat. I'm like, this is really scary. And I was I was I was puking up blood. It was like really a fucking pretty heavy little scene. And, uh, everyone's like, dude, fuck it. You gotta go to the hospital. And I was like, no, the show must go on. Like, uh, so yeah, I got on the plane and flew to Sweden and which made me an international drug

smuggler, which was my whole purpose. That's why I got on the plane, bro. That was the joke. Like that, that, uh, yeah. And there's that shot where I'm on the plane and like was the joke like that yeah and there's that shot where I'm on the plane and like you can just see it written all over my face like I'm not fucking okay your throat looks like a girl

in a porno like it's just like a big fucking dick put in your throat you can see it sitting in there oh dude like and yeah and that one was like when that happened, that was, I knew that was a saga, dude. That one was a big deal. It's crazy how long ago it is now.

When was that? That was in 2003. 2003. Yeah. So how does this end? Like, is there a quote unquote retirement? Do you, are you ever just going to stop with this lifestyle or are you just going to do this till one day a prank goes horribly wrong at the age of like 85 and you're dead?

Like what, what would be the ideal ending for Steve-O? I've got the next like a couple of years mapped out pretty good, pretty well. Um, it's, uh, there's right now there's gnarly and you know like i put it out on my own it's on my own website and uh it's going well and everybody i just please support it but like my my belief in in how i did how i did this everybody who does go and and and orders gnarly on my website and watches it i believe believe strongly that every single one of those people is going to be a happy customer. You know, they're going to be like,

all right, Steve-O's production company, which is Yeah Dude Productions, like fucking is batting a thousand. You know, like I'm glad. And so I just have the, you know, I have confidence that I'm going to establish goodwill with everybody who, you know, with my audience so that when my follow up to Gnarly comes out, which which is called the bucket list. And that's got the vasectomy Olympics. It's got skyjacking. It's got it's it's it's got it's got a lot of fucking dope ass shit dude like I have one where they give me general anesthesia drugs while I'm riding

a bicycle how do you think of that who comes up with it that is so unbelievably stupid I love it love it I mean most people can't count they go count backwards from 10 and you get to 9 And you roll a fucking bike

Yeah, I'm pretty happy With the bucket list The only thing that hasn't been Completely successful And checked off the list Is cauliflower ear You're gunning for that? You want that? Yeah

Fucking Chuck Liddell you're gunning for that you want that yeah like Chuck Liddell Ronda Rousey Jorge Masvidal and John Jones all tried their best what were they just punching you in the ears we did all kinds of shit

we did all kinds of shit but I'm not giving up on that yet Everything else was already a huge success And the bucket list The bucket list I don't know how soon Like that We'll come together and come out

Maybe like sometime In the next year I picture Once we're touring again I get it all worked, you know, the bucket list is, is my current tour. Right. And, uh, you know, like, so whatever, when that comes up, but I thought when I, when I started the bucket list tour that I had just painted myself into a corner because there's nowhere to fucking go, you know, like, like, fuck now,

like I did, i've done all these these things like where do i go from skyjacking like where do i go from you know anesthesia bike ride like now i'm fucked but uh but then i just kind of like came up with like i was like okay after the bucket list then the follow-up to the bucket list should be uh steve-o uh gone too far like let me just like actually like and so what what would going too far look like uh i had an idea to um because because i was mad about how uh eyebrow waxing is is as big of a bit as it was. Like, why the fuck did we do it in a beauty salon? Like, how boring, right?

I thought, why wouldn't I get, like, Post Malone to put, like, wax, to put the wax on my eyebrow and eyebrow and have like tied to the wax have a fucking string connected to a baseball and then fucking post Malone fucking hits the baseball and fucking my eyebrow goes flying you know and then like and then and then once and then once the eyebrow is gone, then now there's, you know, like I replace it with a full fucking dick tattoo. Like a big curve, just curved, curved, just like the eyebrow. But like a fucking big old fucking dick, right? Just a dick on my fucking forehead. You know, like fucking just a full dickhead and like there's a full face tattoo

and what's so great about it too is that where the dick curves the way the eyebrow does and then it's like shooting cum out of it where the cum is like tear jars and like you know that like you know walking around with a fucking full-blown graphic dick tattooed on my face like a full big one like uh you know that to me like represents like okay now now we've pushed it too far you know and then like and then and then once I get the Dictat, then I go in and I fucking get fucking breast augmentation. So I get fucking big ass titties. You're going to get fake tits, Steve? Full on fucking surgery to get as big of fucking tits as they can fit in there and like uh i can't even tell you how like when i've ever run that idea by anybody

how aggressively everybody says no dude do not do that what does lung say yeah she can't love that idea she doesn't love it you don't fucking say steve but that but the more the more aggressively people try to talk me out of doing that shit, well, the more they're just confirming that it's like perfect. Because that's where. So I didn't paint myself into a corner. I actually have a bunch of ideas that are just way too far. And so then, so that's, I've just mapped out the next like two to three years. If Lux was smart, she'd be like, nah, that's lame.

Like I didn't know someone else who did that. Right. There is a guy. There is a guy. He was a gambler, right? He was a gambler, yeah. Yeah. But dude, the thing is that that guy

like doesn't even break him out. You know, like. He's going to be at a bar with you. Like, yeah. Motorboat. I'll tell you how, how Steve-O's, how Steve-O's ends, how the story ends is Steve-O getting into transvestite porno. You start doing tranny porn and then that's it. That's the exclamation on your career. There, there,, not transvestite porno, but I do plan on, like the way that the bucket list show, it kind of, the through line of that, of the bucket list show is my relationship with Lux and how like she, like, you know, how she copes with like these high level things that I'm doing, you know,

like it's, it's, it's impossible for there not to be implications on my relationship. So that's sort of the through line. Right. And, uh, and then for, for going too far, like, I'm not there yet. I haven't even started shooting it, but I picture that being like, okay, now I'm really at the crossroads of where I'm too

old. It's too far. So part of approaching 50, which I will be at that time, I'm 46 now. Dude, how do you get hotter despite what you do to your body honestly that's he's a superhero you and knoxville are fucking weapons like you guys

are like just hot dudes now imagine with a pair of tits no but for real like you guys staying in shape even like you should be bald by now. Your body should be rejecting you. You should be like, and somehow you're getting better. I really think you might be a superhero. It's like a mutant. You have like a special gene in you. It's crazy. You're hot.

I appreciate you guys. I think Pontius is aging the best out of everybody is what I believe. He was always naked. He never had clothes on. He was always flaunting it. He knew what he believe. He was always naked. He never had clothes on. He was always flaunting it. He knew what he had. Right. But so when I get to filming this Gone Too Far shit,

like it's an obvious, not obvious, but like confronting like real, like fucking, you know, old man shit. I got to go get a colonoscopy. You know, like we all do. You know, like we all do when we reach that certain age but i imagine that i will be the well i will be the only person to ask the doctor the colonoscopy doctor like seriously like what can I fit in there? How big can I go? And, uh, and I, I,

I genuinely believe that the, uh, the, the, the doctor will be like overly conservative. You'll be like, Oh, no, no, no, you can't, you know. And I'll be like, okay, now I need a second opinion. And then that's where I'll find like the right personality in the gay porn industry. And I believe I'll get a totally different answer from that person. And I just have this whole fucking idea about my asshole. I could talk to you for fucking years about this, but I got one more question before you go.

We got a game and a show called Answer the Internet, which is just the most wild questions that we've encountered that the internet has kind of come up with. And this one here from our game feels like it could have been like a jackass skit in a way. If you were in an open field with an

aluminum baseball bat, how many 10-year-olds wearing bike helmets could you take down before they got you? So you just have an endless flood of them coming at you and you could just tee off on them. But how many 10 year olds before Steve-O is like pinned down and you're like, I give up,

but you guys win. I mean, I hate to ruin a good, funny question with, uh, you know, a lame answer, but,

um, you know, I just can't. Can't beat up kids. Yeah. And that's the wholesome jackass content we're here for. It comes full circle. That's it. That's how it ends for Steve-O. He's too much of a pussy

to beat up 10-year-olds with a baseball bat. Right. Yeah. I think I go down with the shit all right bro we really appreciate it gnarly is unbelievable it's it's like you said it's uh it's something that you know it's it's not just stand-up comedy it's a multimedia like extravaganza where you're going to see something like you've never seen before so go get gnarly it's on steve-o.com you can download it right now it is it is worth it man and 100% worth it i can i can vouch for that for sure and and and like you said earlier forget about even

if it's worth it because it's hilarious you just owe it to steve-o just donate to the cause because that's what he deserves nobody owes me anything dude nobody owes me shit it's me who owes my audience you know like i i wanna i just fucking really went for it, man. And in a fashion that, uh, that I am a hundred percent confident, every single person's going to be glad that they ordered it, that they watched it. They're going to be looking forward to the bucket list. And, uh, and so, yeah, just, you know, I don't know.

I'm appealing to everybody as the underdog, but just fucking support me and help me and fucking show the world that some people fucked up by letting this thing go. You know, like, yep. Yeah. And thank you guys for helping me get the word out,

man. I really appreciate it. Congrats on, uh, on the success, man. Thank you for giving us your time, man.

Great talking to you. Oh yeah. Likewise, man. Take care guys. us your time, man. Great talking to you. Oh, yeah. Likewise, man. Take care, guys. Have a good one. Bucketlist sounds like his... It sounded like gnarly in his mind was kind of a culmination, but

Bucketlist is like... Anything that came to his brain, he's doing. What if I jumped out and I jerked off? How about the guy who's going to be behind him? Yeah, right. Just come flying everywhere on you guy who's going to be behind them? Yeah, right. Just come flying everywhere on you. It's going to have to be Pontius or something. I mean, I will watch that sort of content for absolutely ever.

I don't care how old he is, how old I am, what they're doing. I will always watch jackass content. And I know he said he's got the next few years planned out, but I really do wonder how it ends for Steve-O. He's got this girl now. Are they going to have kids? Are they going to have families? Is he going to be a dad? Does he eventually go out like Evel Knievel style during a prank?

I'm getting nauseous just thinking about one of the scenes from the show. You should definitely watch it. Steve-O.com. Drinking his buddy's cum is wild. It's not the worst thing he does in the show. That's insane. That's insane. And Grant, his buddy's cum is in a condom.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not in a condom. Well, still. Yeah. All right, let's do it now. Tank Sinatra, the meme god. You know him from Instagram. He has cracked the secret, cracked the code on how to make a living as a Instagram meme poster and normal dude from Long Island who has a regular background with a very interesting perspective on life.

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thank you thank you yeah is that i mean lifelong or is that uh no it's like it was a reverse name change um remember when seinfeld ge George tried to give himself a nickname, T-Bone? It was like that, but it worked. Yeah, it was like, I made my Instagram name Tank Sinatra, and people just started calling me Tank. It fits, you know, if you looked like me, I was like, I'm Tank.

And also, when you have millions of people referring to you as Tank, they kind of don't have an option anymore. When my mom called me Tank for the first time, I was like... Oh, shit. That's wild. It's starting to get weird. George is like, you know... George is...

We were just saying, there's not many Georges. They're all Greek. Yeah, a lot of George... They're all Greek. Every single one of them. George Papadopoulos. Is that someone I know, or is that just the character? I think that's just like a generic...

That's just the name? You just say, George Papadopoulos. You know, hey. That's one that's been so deeply embedded in my head. I'm like, wait, do I know that guy? Or did I hear about him on a movie? No, George to Greek people is like what Vinny is to Italians. But I'm Irish and German.

Oh, really? You don't make any sense. You're Irish and German? Yeah. I would have guessed Italian there. Really? Yeah. On what basis, bro?

On your size, Tank. Yeah, it's really, it's like neck down, you guys. I'm coming from Long Island, and I'm fucking huge. You know why I say that? Because I would have liked to have been Italian, but as I got older, I realized being Irish is pretty cool. It's superior. It's better. Get out of here.

Yo, you got so many fucking followers, dude. You have three accounts that all have like at least two million, right? Yeah. That's fucking nuts. I know. So does that mean you just got like the formula? You just got – you're just like the Instagram whisperer? Like could you just – if I wanted – if you could make another one, could you just keep going?

Or do you think it like all played out like you had the first one, then the influencers won? Like what was the order of them all? It was Tank Sinatra first. Okay. And then it was Tank's Good News. And then it was Influencers in the Wild. Got it. So I'll be honest.

Up until like six months ago, I felt like everything was a fluke. Like I didn't know. I just got very lucky in the beginning. That's what I felt like. I hit it right. I had a couple of big pushes from the Fat Jewish and Fuck Jerry when I first started. Right. Which put me kind of like up to about 300,000, 400,000 followers

before I really had to stand on my own and figure it out. But the Tank's Good News came out of Hurricane Harvey, which was just a devastating Houston debacle. I mean there was so much destruction and devastation, but there was so much good coming out of it too. People were pulling their boats out of the water and driving hundreds of miles to go rescue people from it too. People were pulling their boats out of the water and driving hundreds of miles to go rescue people from their houses.

People were pulling out jet skis. J.J. Watt raised $20 million in like three days. Right. So Krasinski just stole that from you, huh? Yeah, good news. Some good news. Thanks, good news. Some good news.

Sounds a lot like thanks, good news if you ask me. Listen, it's weird for me to even say this because I was selling fence up until like three years ago. As my living. Right. Construction, go to your house, measure your fence, give you a price, ask for the money, go fill out the job. Like it was a very, very normal life. Yeah.

But John Krasinski wrote me a message before he launched some good news. Oh, so he definitely stole it then. Oh, yeah. No, he followed Thanksgiving News. Okay. Yeah. He followed Thanksgiving News. Okay, yeah. He followed Thanksgiving News. And part of me when he started it was like, you mother – Yeah.

We're going to crush it. Like I'm not Jim. You know what I mean? I'm not Jack Ryan. Right. John Krasinski is a well-loved person. So I knew it was going to do well. But I was –

What did that message say? Just like, hey, man. It was like, hey, you're the OG. Wanted to let you know I'm starting this – my own thing. Like I just – I'm at home. I feel like I need to do it. I was like, hey, man. It was like, hey, you're the OG. Wanted to let you know I'm starting my own thing. Like I just – I'm at home. I feel like I need to do it. I was like, go for it. Wow.

Oh, that's cool. At least like – because I think there's a difference between like stealing something and being inspired by something. Right. Because like there are no original ideas. There are ideas that kind of get built off of and stuff like that. With your take repackaged. Old ideas with a new take. But that is cool to at least reach out and be like, hey, you inspired me to do this.

To think that you're selling fence and then like two minutes later you got John Krasinski being like, yeah, dude. I had a big look at the camera moment. So he wrote me the message. He did the first episode. I mean it killed. It made news on its own. He gave me a shout out in the episode. So that was all I needed.

But then it was an emotional roller coaster because I was like this guy must be bored during the pandemic. The second movies start shooting or TV starts shooting again, he's going to be gone. Which is what happened basically. No. So what happened was he shot eight episodes and then he goes eight of eight. Thank you guys so much. Had a great time. You know, hope to whatever.

And then I was like, oh, good. Like I can now chill and enjoy this. And then three days later it came out that he sold it to CBS. Right, right. But also CBS Viacom, I mean, yes, I'm sure he made good money on that, but that's not going to be a massive

segment anymore. If it's not Jim doing it. He's not going to host it. Right. I won't think of it as a competitor to you anymore. It will be like – and don't get me wrong. It probably sucks that he got a good chunk of change out of it. But I think like some good news or Tank's good news will go back to being your thing.

And then like people who get up at 7 in the morning and watch CBS, the old ladies will see that. It's going to be totally different. It was two things. One, it stung a little bit. But it was also like he proved the market and sold a huge show. And if there was a massive bidding war, that means one company won and a bunch of companies didn't win. Didn't get it. Yeah.

And I think if you resume – and I think the internet will go back to being yours and that will be – Yeah, like yours. No, but like Tank's Good News I think will be like the younger digital demo, whatever. Yeah. And I really – mean i i would be stunned if some good news on viacom is like that big of a thing where i think those other companies are going to be looking back for to do it with you and do it the right way let's keep it digital let's keep it you know what i mean let's not change it i think also the fact that i'm from

new york i don't look like somebody who would be talking about good news there's a little edge i never when i started it, I was like, if this becomes, no disrespect to anybody doing anything, but if it becomes Upworthy or the Dodo where it's like too sappy or there's no edge to it, like I'm not going to do it. So I got some things working. Nothing like definite, but there's always, I mean, I just, every day is like a new adventure.

So you said you thought it was a fluke up until recently. What like showed you that you can – like you just got the formula down? Influencers in the wild. Yeah, that – I mean that was – is that just like a – but even that, is that just like you had – I mean it's a great idea. But like did you go about growing it in a certain way that makes you feel like this is the blueprint? No, you know what I think happened was I identified a hole in the market and filled it well and built it quickly. Like it was – so I was in LA and I saw – I was at one of those parks. I forget which park.

Like one of those parks where everyone goes and takes pictures and shit. Instagram shit, yeah. So I saw this girl climbing like on a tree that was like three feet off the ground. And I was like, not impressive. Just stand next to it. not impressive just stand next to it like you know what i mean like why are you so then i thought to myself oh an account dedicated to this stuff would be funny it is so then my next thought was well you know you could start an account you know how to start an account i already had two at this point so i started the account and um i actually reached out to i don't even know if i should say this but whatever i reached out to a couple of people one of the people i reached out

to was david spade because i had seen him walk around la and roast influencer people kind of you know whatever so i said let's you know let's launch an account together another childhood hero that i was like any proximity is good and he was out to dinner and he goes i'm out to dinner let's talk about it. I didn't hear from him for a week. I started the account, and then he got mad. He got pissed that I started the account, I think. I don't know.

Either that or he just unfollowed me coincidentally. Oh, wow. Unfollow. I mean, the unfollow is like a – that's a deliberate-ass move. Like, I'm going to click that. You can mute. You can just ignore. To unfollow

as a statement statement yeah it's a statement but um the account hit a million in like three weeks wow so then i told him i was like listen you come on anytime you want like i'm it doesn't like i had to start the account that doesn't mean that you're out you know what i mean right um but then it hit two million in like six weeks now it's a year out. Now it's fucking mine, bro. You missed the bullet. It's had your time. And then it hit 3. I mean, it just keeps going and going and going.

Well, it is. I mean, there's something about, I think it's just people like love to hate. But, you know, Instagram influencers and the people who are doing TikToks and stupid shit. We're obviously going now. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. This is it. it we're going we don't really do intros tanks and otters here uh but i mean that is like people love to make fun of that and see it and mock it and look how silly you look and how many takes you have to do and the boyfriends taking pictures the girl for all that shit is what people you know the the making of is what i mean for normal people we can relate to that you know well i can also relate to because i've done some stuff publicly that like was embarrassing like we shot you know

a piece by guy is piece by guy by guy he does all the weird videos that you see somebody doing something like him and his friend flipped each other off for 30 seconds oh yeah he does those classic ones yeah yeah um we did i just saw it yesterday it came up on my time hop we did one where i probably couldn't even record it i was laughing so hard i was peeing at a urinal and there was a divider and he comes in the urinal behind me and starts elbowing me out and like of the urinal oh man so we shot one of those, but that was in a bathroom, so there was no one there. But then we went out on 38th and 8th or 39th and 8th, and we shot a video where we were stuck together with a Chinese finger trap. I tried to get it off my feet. My foot's up on his knee.

And I felt dumb, but it was like I think everybody has taken a picture out in public and felt stupid, whether you're at a restaurant or a concert. You go out and you're like, let's get this over with yeah i feel stupid so i think there's a little bit of like vicarious yeah embarrassment because people know the feeling but then it's also like people like they like to see that things are not always perfect right you tried to do a handstand five times and you couldn't get it you should have practiced. But somehow the pictures of you doing a handstand. Right. Because you timed it, you did a video, you freeze frame, screenshot. But you can't do a handstand.

So it's like, I don't know. And there's no shortage of it, even in the pandemic. Like when Hurricane Harvey ended, I'm a little embarrassed to say that my first thought was like, oh no, maybe there will be another hurricane. We checked the weather! There was. Wasn't that the year of like three thousand year storms

or whatever they call it? It takes numbers up. God was sending that shit. But when the hurricane ended and the content kept coming, there was one video, one story that I saw of a four-year-old boy. This is a bad story, by the way. Four-year-old boy fell off of a deck and died in the Bronx, right?

No railing. Just like total negligence, but a family lost a child. And it was on the news. It wasn't like Eric Clapton's daughter or like didn't fall like on a you know what I mean it was just like some poor family who's now in the news for something terrible so I figured if this not famous or not big deal person

is on the news for a bad thing then I can put not famous not big deal people on the good news for good things like if some kid raises $10 at a lemonade stand for his friend who can't eat lunch, he doesn't have to raise $20 million like J.J. Watt. So that's when I kind of chilled out and was like, as long as the world keeps going – I've had the same thing with memes.

I was like, I'm going to run out of stuff to talk about. I think that every day is about the material on the internet. You just be like, tomorrow I'm going to wake up and there's just going to be nothing to blog and I'm fucked and it just never stops. It never stops. And sometimes it's slower than others. the pandemic is but it changes different you know it's like now you're used to but there'll be another version of what people will watch or engage with or click exactly yeah so it's you know once i started the influences of the wild

i remember being on myspace i was just thinking about this the other day and feeling like i understood i just i love people in general. Hate, love, fascinated by, with, disgusted by. I'm just like really into human beings as individuals and as a society. So I remember thinking like if I could figure out the collective sociological desires of people on the internet, maybe I can make money on the internet. Yeah, bro. That's the name of the fucking game. that so when influencers in the wild was created i was like i think i i think i get it i think i understand it now so are you just gonna keep

making them you think like i mean at some point you don't want to you know can you have 10 12 or it depends on how many things become important over the course of my life i would imagine it's kind of comparable to like a podcast network right yeah like a social media network like you know we had like three kind of three podcasts and it was like all right we have 10 and we made the barstool network yeah and it was like all right i have 50 accounts that are all big hits and make me money yeah that seems like i don't know if they're a social media network so to speak um but it kind of is, yeah. There's a guy, he has a company called Doing Things. It's all like animals doing things, gamers doing things, whatever.

They have like 30 pages, 34 pages. Jesus. I don't know if there's, I have foodies in the wild also, which is all restaurant shots, but restaurants have been shut down, so I kind of stopped posting on that. This content has been coming in, but I don't feel like hearing it from people about people being in restaurants. So there's

different ways to go about it. Ryan Holiday, who's my favorite author, another guy I met through Instagram, you know all the Taryn pages? He had a great idea. I started the page. I haven't populated it yet. He goes, you should start an account called

Thank You Sharon, where it's old white women doing good stuff and like that i can get with because i don't it's good it's not negative listen these women are they're the worst mentally ill they're fucking crazy a lot of them are like really not they're not just having a bad day like they should be yeah yeah they should be somewhere where they can not hurt anybody. And their people are using it. Like that feels a little exploitative for me. Like that one woman who three different videos she popped up in. She was calling the Asian lady. Oh, yeah.

Black people. Like her family came out and they were like, she's ill. We were looking for her. We didn't know where she was. Like she's got a problem. Please stop posting videos of her. She doesn't know what she was. Like, she's got a problem. Please stop posting videos of her. She doesn't know what she's saying. Yeah.

It's like videotaping a homeless guy on 7th Avenue who's schizophrenic and being like, look how this guy really feels. Yeah. With all his druthers, he really, he doesn't really feel like that. He doesn't know what planet he's on. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's like, I've said that right now.

And not all of them are like that, by the way. No. You just say, obviously, because I don't want to be crushed. But you have to like draw the line. There's some bad people out there, but I feel like it's obvious which people are not all there and which ones are just racist, angry people. Yeah, 100 percent. I mean this is the era though of just like I film you filming me who's filming this where everybody's filming. The people filming each other.

It's nuts. Yeah. Hilarious. And they – but people – It always starts with the I'm filming you. I and they put people it always starts with uh i'm filming you i'm filming you it always starts and they were still saying whatever they want it's like you know that person has a phone you can see it's not a secret hidden camera they're filming you and you're still dropping a slur or saying whatever and then you're like i can't believe i

lost my job it's like you can't you can't yeah it was fucking happening right in front of your face but it's good for business. You're going to get a lot of good shit. Great for business. What used to be the internet persona of people, like the shitty part of them that they would only type out from their basement. Yeah. I remember the first time it happened, somebody called me to continue an argument we were having on Facebook. And I stopped.

Like three days after it was over. I was like, bro, I'm not – that's that. That's over. That's ether. Yeah. Like I'm not bringing that out of the cable into my real life to talk to you about something that was a misunderstanding. Right.

It was just – I was like, all right, man. But I remember like having arguments with people on Facebook 10 years ago, and you'd see them, and it would be like, hey. You know, like we're not going to talk about that. No. Pretend that didn't happen. Yeah, because there's been a – I think there's been a complete reversal in a lot of things on the internet. One, where like it used to be the internet is not real life.

And like now I think people understand it is. Real life is not real life. Exactly. And now real life isn't because it's not on the internet. Right. And then two, I think the parts of people that used to – like they would go on the internet to be a dickhead. And then in their personal life, they were just nice people. I think that's reversed too.

Yep. You go on the internet to be a nice person, and in your personal life, you're kind of a piece of shit. You're a comeback. Yeah. I mean, when you talk about being fascinated with people, it's an interesting time where it's like all of that. People have never been more people than they are right now. Yeah, yeah. And the bad is coming out, but then because of that the good

starts to shine it's all very fascinating and it's like something as simple as a meme account and you know you think it's like i said simple easy you just funny jokes and some funny pictures but it really is there's like a science to it and when you look at like the kind of the the bigger picture it's like this is some weird this is a weird time in human history very strange it used to just be like you know food, procreate. Like that's it. And then it just gets more and more and more complicated. And now in this era, it's like I don't know what the fuck to think about anybody anymore.

I think we'll figure it out. I think it's too new for everybody to – It is. I don't think we'll figure it out in our lifetime. But I also keep – I think in like 100 years, just like how to fucking behave on the internet. So I think by the time we figure out maybe like social media, there's going to be something new that we're botching again. I think it's always going to keep evolving and we're always going to be behind it.

Yeah, but I guess that's like the nature of being human is always trying to keep up with this. Yeah, yeah. The difference is now it's like you used to fuck up and your friends and family knew. Now you fuck up and like the whole goddamn world knows. That's where the whole cancel culture shit starts where it's like we got to have some sort of leniency to let people recover. What was the first one that ever you were like, oh, this is it? That woke you up to how crazy it can be. Remember the girl who went to Africa?

Oh, yeah. That was mine. What was her name? I think she was from London. Justine. Has Justine landed yet? Yeah. And it was like.

Oh, you don't know this one? Justine. She tweeted like, I'm going to Africa. I hope I don't get AIDS or something like that. And it wasn't great, but it wasn't awful, awful. It's not something you should say, but it's not the worst thing to say. It wasn't like an N word. There wasn't anything

like direct and on her flight obviously it was like almost like pre before like all flights had wifi she had no idea

I want to guess this is like 2011 12 it does sound familiar and she it was just like it was all Twitter was talking about

we're like has that bitch landed yet like I want my fucking pound of flesh I want a yellow. Like, it was probably a top-trending topic. It was great.

And she fired. I stayed up all night, like, just like, I wasn't tweeting, like, I'm going to kill this girl. Who was she? Just a random girl. Just like a random. Not famous. It was just like somebody retweeted it and it picked up. And then everybody got on it.

Like, look at this racist chick. Like, when she lands, like, you know, it became a, it was like, like i think some people were really offended some people just jumped on it because it was a funny hashtag like how's justine landed yet and they started to joke about what's gonna happen when she touches down yeah and her job saw it and fired her and it was like oh shit yeah it was a bad joke but like a random normal girl it really doesn't have any responsibility like a celebrity would or something like that i think what people don don't realize when you try to be funny, maybe let's say too often, like you're trying to like land jokes 10, 15 times a day, which is too much. I've heard people like Shane Gillis got in trouble. He's a friend of mine.

He's a comedian. He's like – he said he was pushing boundaries. And when you say that to somebody who's offended by something you say, they don't really want to hear that you were pushing boundaries. That sounds like you are trying to see how shitty of a thing you can say without getting in trouble. And I was thinking about this last night and I was like it's more like you're trying to – when you're trying to be funny all the time, you just say dumb shit. That's really all it is. Like I made – and it keeps coming up so i'm gonna talk about it i made what i learned later to be a very racist meme like five years ago my most reposted meme of all time by far this was

when that checks out yeah i was gonna say ain't it always the way though yeah yeah so i it was around this time like hood meme pages were huge yeah so i was trying to say, ain't it always the way, though? Yeah, yeah. So it was – around this time, like, hood meme pages were huge. So I was trying to get reposted by these pages, right? So it came from – the meme itself was a picture of a black kid swimming, and the caption was, haters will say it's Photoshop. Simple, stupid, of the time. Haters will say it's Photoshop. It was all over the place. And people went nuts in a good way the first time i posted it the second

time i posted it i got reamed by the almost the entire internet so how far apart were the two posts like a year yeah but the basis so i grew up in long island right and i grew up with white people black people italian irish jewish whatever like it's very mixed and when i went to college i was swam i took phys ed as my major and there was a swimming class that I took, half white, half black, men, women, whatever. The black people could not swim, and they were fucking laughing their asses off about it. We were laughing together. It was like a big joke. I was like, black people can't swim?

I was 17. I didn't know they couldn't swim at all, let alone the reasons why. Just to give you an idea of like how kind of sheltered I was, we went to the locker room and my friend James, who grew up in Brooklyn, all the black guys are getting out of the shower and they're covered in lotion. And I'm like, these guys don't wash the soap off? Like why are none of them – why did none of them wash the soap off? Are they late for class or whatever? And he's laughing at me. He's like, no, it's lotion. You don't know where black people wear lotion?

So just to set the stage, so I post this meme. And I mean, I got a fucking history lesson on socioeconomic reasons why black people can't swim. I learned and being from Long Island, I had heard something about overpasses and buses. I didn't like I didn't really dig into it. But apparently Robert Moses, who built the entire infrastructure of Long Island, was the most racist person to ever be involved in industry. And he made the overpasses lower so the buses couldn't get from the inner city to the beaches. Really? So long story short, I post this meme, learn from it, grow. I mean I've learned and unlearned a million different things over the past five years, especially over like the last two months.

And people keep tweeting this thing at me. They're like, this you? And I'm like, yeah, it's me. I made a dumb meme. What do you want me to tell you? Like I didn't know. Now I know. Ignorant to me is not a bad thing to be unless you do nothing about it. Ignorant means without knowledge.

Period. End of story. That's the definition. Once you have the knowledge, if you continue to act that way, then you're racist. But if you're ignorant, that to me is like calling somebody ignorant is not the biggest insult in the world. As I used to think it was before I knew what it meant. Right. I just thought ignorant people were bad, hateful, racist, like ignorant is the step before that, where you have a chance to redeem yourself

and learn. Right. So if we cancel people before they get over that threshold, not only are we doing them a huge disservice, we're doing the entire world a disservice by not allowing people to grow and learn from their mistakes. And I think getting into that realm where it's like you can't say anything wrong ever is really, really dangerous.

And Harrison Bergeron, one of my favorite short stories of all time, is a perfect example of what happens when you shrink people to nothing. They become nothing. They become nothing. They become unimpressive, equal. You know that story? No, no.

It's a short story. Basically, it's Kurt Vonnegut. He's a famous author. He wrote Slaughterhouse-Five, whatever. It's a story about smart people in the future who have a beeping thing in their ear. And if they have a thought that's too elevated, it'll beep really loud to throw them off track. who have a beeping thing in their ear. And if they have a thought that's too elevated,

it'll beep really loud to throw them off track. Ballerinas, dancers, athletes are all weighted with sandbags. And Harrison Bergeron refuses to be kept down. Kept down, yeah. But the society in that time is miserable. Everything's so boring. Yeah, it sounds terrible. It's obviously terrible. No one would want that.

But I think that's what I meant when I say I hope we figure it out. I hope we figure out that people are going to say dumb things, and you have to at least give them a chance to grow and learn. You can't just socially murder them. Listen, if someone's repeatedly saying...

Yeah, that's the thing. If it's deliberate and you should know and you do know and you still do it, then it's... If you do know and you still do it, different story. If you don't know and you do it and you still do it. If you do know and you still do it, different story. If you don't know and you do it and you go, whoa, I didn't know that. Right. I had no idea. Let me change. Let me – if I kept making memes like that, yeah, I would say let's hold me to the coals.

Right. Isn't it funny that this can all come from memes? It's something that you think is so simple, casual, whatever. But it's like we talk about it all the time too where it's like's like there are definitely things, because we've been doing this seven years. You guys are in comedy, too. You've been through it. For ten years. I just watched.

Watch out. But I was like, there are definitely going to be things that come up in the future that were like, I wish I didn't say that. I'm embarrassed I said that. I've changed since then already, but like thanks for the reminder. But there is – it's going to happen to everybody, to anyone in content, to anyone in recording, writing, whatever. You're going to say and do things that you just wish you didn't because times change and things – Social norms have to be accounted for. They have to be weighted in your judgment in the future of what was going on back then.

So yeah, was this you 10 years ago? Yeah. It must be 10 years ago yeah it was and also if you if you're in a position to say something or post something that lasts forever it's like a lot of people don't have don't get to that level where it's like you said dumb shit just there's nobody to fucking call you on it because you don't have a platform you don't have an audience you don't yeah never grown to that level you almost get penalized for doing you know good enough to get audience. It's like you also have to have a little bit of leniency on it as well. But then I mean then it also – at the same time, we've constantly said like there are consequences for your actions. So you can't just play like the I didn't know card.

You have to like – you still have to take that punishment if you will or take that backlash. The idea of like stopping someone from ever doing it again is the problem. But if – to just be like, well, it was a joke and I bear no responsibility for it. It's like, well, no. It kind of goes both ways. Yeah. Well, people forget very quickly also. As mad as they are about what you said.

Someone else is going to say something else. In maybe 24, 72 hours max. That's what I've always said. I don't think cancel culture is that real. I think you have a rough time on twitter yeah and it'll be a few days yeah and then like but like it's pretty rare that someone will lose their job or right lose they don't lose their job but lose their livelihood forever lose the ability to like earn you have to basically you know yeah it's gonna be a crime it'll be

criminal and it's different than it's pretty rare to say and it almost feel like cancel culture has become one of those things that people just say. Like, someone's mad at you for the day. Like, ah, I'm trying to get canceled. Yeah. They're not. They're fucking saying. You just said something stupid.

They're talking shit, and someone else will do it, and they'll forget about you. Yeah, there's also a big difference between being canceled and people just not liking you. Right. That's what I mean. Which is like. If your joke sucked, and your content's like, blah, and people don't like you anymore, it's like, you're just an asshole, dude. You're not going to make it anyway.

Yeah. That's – yeah. You're not canceled. You never really started. Yeah. Yeah, the internet is a rough place to try and make a living just because you're at the mercy of – and the whims and personality waves of millions of different people, but learning to weather that, I think it's something that has helped me in my family life, my friend life, where it's like I don't take stuff

that my wife says so seriously anymore because I'm like, eh, whatever. But see, I've done that, and I almost feel like I've gone too far the other way where I don't feel anything anymore. John has no feelings. I'm dead inside. That's why I don't care about it.

But I wish I did have something still where that pissed me off, I'm dead inside. That's why I don't care about it. I wish I did have something still where I – that pissed me off. I'm angry at you because I'm like, yeah, people yell at me all day and it's just white noise to me now. Or people say things that piss me off all day and it's just white noise. And like I miss the passion of being fucking upset. Ideally, you would take in the good and disregard the bad. But that's not the way it works. So I just have to disregard the bad.

All of it. I just disregard all of it. I mean, if you – Ryan Holiday, the guy who writes a lot about stoicism, like none of it matters. You're dropping a lot of things. You're very literary. You got to – Very literary. Very well-learned man.

I got to make memes for a living. I can't be dumb. You know what? It really is, though. I've always said the funniest people and and even rappers and stuff like that. Jay-Z? Yeah, like smart fucking people who can make references and make connections. Does that piss you off where I'm sure people are like, oh, it's such an easy job.

Anyone can do that. Okay, fucking you can do it. You're right. Literally anyone can do it. Now let's see if you can do it. I used to get into that with people. Now I think people understand now that i run three pages now it's like more the opposite people are like you run the three pages by yourself yeah it gets hairy sometimes when i launched the influencers in the wild and i had to figure out video licensing and and content and all

that stuff i mean that was a steep steep learning curve for about a month. And then I was like, all right, I got it. It's not – I've never once publicly complained nor would I about what I do for a living because it's too good to ever complain about. The hardest part of the job, if you want to call it that, is dealing with people. But that's like – See, even like throwing that on it, if you want to call it that. No, it's a job. Yeah, it's a job. I work more now than I have ever worked in the entire life.

And I feel like someone who works in a new industry always wants to throw out that caveat. And I always do it too. I'm like, look, we're not coal miners, but like sometimes it's a hard job. And you can just say like it can be a hard – first of all, it's a job. And second of all, it's hard sometimes, and that's OK to say. Well, working – like I used to think of people that worked hard as hardest like just i always had this woman in my head for an example like a single mom who wakes up at five goes to work at let's say dunkin donuts from six to three goes home for an hour goes to work at walmart from four to ten or whatever that to me was working hard

when i was younger because i just i thought meant – I thought hours and suffering dictated how hard you worked. Right. When in reality, not that person in particular, not any one individual in particular, people that typically take jobs like that wait for the clock to run out. They take – they don't like – they're not really into what they're doing. I was when I was younger, but that's why I am where I am today because when I worked at a bagel place, I made that – I mean I made your sandwich like God was going to eat it. You know what I mean? Like I took everything I did seriously. Right.

But working hard is just – it's constantly being aware of your surroundings and trying to filter that into like how do I turn what happened into something good, which is tough sometimes, lighthearted or funny? How can I spin this to make it funny? That's hard work like doesn't sound right because you're not digging ditches. It's like a difficult, nuanced thing. It's not like physically hard. It's not maybe time-consuming. But it's more cerebral to be like how where can i find the funny in this and how can i in a very short caption convey the message or

whatever like at what point did you realize like like my captions are good like my tweets are good my you know i i can do this and people it resonates with people better than the average guy um there was no one time there was like a lot of different times where i was like i don't want to like because i had tried many different things before also i had a blog in 2003 then i had another one in 2005 then i had another one in 2010 then i had a website and you're doing this all on the side while you're doing your yeah just to like stay sane right right that's exactly that's how i started and then i got very lucky that it was it was quick i only did that for like a year before Barstool picked me up.

But I remember doing it just as a hobby. I was just like I'm just going to do this for fun. Well, it's fun. It's something – it's like a creative outlet. So you get this – like some people draw. I like to write. I used to like to make videos. But I remember I was at – I was somewhere and I was like this guy was telling me how his friend used to go into this place and it was very busy.

But he was huge on social media. So once he stopped going there, it was like the kind of business died down a little bit. And at this point, I had like 600,000 followers. And I said, oh, what's the guy's name? Because I thought at this point I knew everybody on the internet. He's not going to be huge and I don't know. So he tells me the guy's name. I type in his name and he's got like 11,000 followers.

And I was like, this guy's name. I type in his name and he's got like 11,000 followers. And I was like, this guy is huge. Wow. 11,000. I was like, if this guy is huge, I didn't tell him how many followers I had. But I was like, then I might be sitting on something that I'm not taking as seriously as I probably should. Let me put a little bit more mental effort and focus into it and get a little bit more serious about it and at one point like for maybe like the first two years i was making like 10 15 memes a day making from scratch finding video finding pictures obviously i wasn't taking the pictures but writing captions and then

writing another caption underneath and then responding to comments with witty whatever yeah um it was a ton of work a ton more work than I have literally ever done in my entire life. And I've had hard jobs. I remember when I was selling fence, I remember I was doing a huge, I think it was a Costco that this other company was building. We were doing the fence. These guys were outside.

There was like 30, 40 guys digging, pouring concrete. Some were standing around, some were not. But we were both in the truck me and the foreman were in the truck stressed out beyond stressed out and i said to the guy i was like i would i would give anything to be fucking standing there watching somebody else pour concrete into a for a car because no shit so it's like physical labor is not pleasurable, but it depends on what – There's like a simplicity in it too sometimes though. There's also a little bit of joy and like meditation too when you're working.

Yeah, like completion and like – Exactly, satisfaction. I mean I definitely thought of like working with your hands where it's not – you're not at the subject of people's feelings and emotion and the internet and the culture and the trends. It's like I'm just laying these fucking bricks, man, and look. Like it's done. Isn't that cool? Sometimes you are. Paycheck and go. Sometimes a customer goes, oh, that brick is out of line or I don't like the way it It's like, I'm just laying these fucking bricks, man. And look like it's done. Isn't that cool? Sometimes you are. Sometimes the customer goes,

Oh, that bricks out of line or I don't like the way it looks, but they cannot deny that it's done. That's not up for debate. There's a simplicity. There's a, there's a beauty to that where it's just like, ah,

like I dream about memes. Yeah. That's, that's where it gets bad. Right. Yeah. It never leaves me. So,

I mean, but my life today is, there's's no it's unrecognizable from where i came from the selling fence is so unbelievably like a bland sentence you know it's like what do you do i sell fence and now it's like yeah i'm a fucking you know internet god it's it's so it's like diametrically opposed super is. Is there a science behind – obviously you had a lot to learn about just memes and you said the rights for videos and stuff like that. But do you have a science like when you're posting or are you just firing them off? I always wonder that. Because like –

Is it 11 p.m. too late or should I do it during business hours? I feel like we got most of our followers and not on Instagram. I just suck at Instagram. I'm bad at it. I'm terrible. But like on Twitter and stuff like that where it's just like – I think it was before there was a science to it, right? Yeah, definitely. Where it was just like we were just firing off tweets 24-7 all day every day.

That's why I worked for us. We weren't thinking about it. We just did it. And then now I feel like with – especially with the younger – having interns in the office who are just kind of talking about shit, I feel like there's more of a science or a strategy behind things. Looking at trends. Is there anything to that or are you just still just like, or a strategy behind things. Looking at trends. Is there anything to that or are you just still just like, I think this is funny. It's posted. I'm not going to shit on your interns.

No, go ahead. We do it all the time. Anybody in particular. But anybody who tells you there is a science to it, that person automatically to me doesn't know what they're doing. If they tell me that I need to post at 10 a.m. or I need to post at 1 p.m. for ideal engagement, they don't, I mean, that's such an old way of thinking about it where maybe, like I remember when social media consultants

became a thing and there was these people who seemed to know what they were talking about because they knew more than the average person. Well, I'm not the average person on the internet anymore and I can assure you that those people do not know what they're talking about. I wouldn't post at 2 a.m. But I'd say any time

from 10 a.m. Eastern time to 10 p.m. Eastern time, maybe even 11 because in California it's 8 at that point. If the content is good, it'll do well. That's really the main thing. If it's good... But nobody can tell you that. No social media consultant can say they don't have the balls to say your content is not great.

Right. And that's why it's not doing well. They will say – They want to keep cashing that out. Don't post at 10. Post at 10.30 because people are – they're done at their desks with the coffee and now they're – no, that's not true. Your content is – and I know that from my own experience because I've had times where I posted three memes, four memes, five, delete, archive. What's going on?

Googling. Did the Instagram algorithm change? Like Google didn't tell me shit. And then I post something and it crushes and I'm like, oh, that's – That was funnier than the last one. Yeah. Content wasn't good. I bet there might have been a time where it was like, like you said, people go on break at 10, they're back at their desk at 1030, whatever.

But I mean, it's 24 fucking seven every minute of the day now. Yeah. So, you know, maybe it used to be get them on the lunch break or get them at the commute. Now it's like you do those things, but also. And with the way the algorithm is now, maybe on Twitter, it might be a little different because it's chronological still. But on Instagram, if you have good content that gets a certain amount of likes within the first 72 hours and then you can decide if it was good or not. Then you know whether it was good because I've had stuff that looks like it's dying on the page. I forget about it, come back two days later, and it's like right in the average of where it should be.

You branched out to anything else? Did you do TikTok or any of that kind of shit? I have influencers in the wild, TikTok, yeah. But it's like same content. You just kind of repost it there as well i i did i i try and like add some stuff on one page it's not on the other just so people feel like all right i'm gonna follow both right but um yeah it is i mean the the the amount of opportunities is just gonna keep going staggering i i find that to be overwhelming like i started with twitter yeah i remember thinking oh god i gotta get on instagram and then like snapchat

kind of came and went and then TikTok. And I'm like, I'm getting too old for this shit. How many more can we possibly put on my phone? When does it stop or do you just keep – you just have to keep going. You have to keep downloading every platform, keep learning that algorithm, all that shit. I feel very lucky and fortunate that I'm under Zuck's wing. Just keep riding that way. Big ass wing.

Keep riding that way. He's not going to let anybody beat him. No, I mean, right as Reels comes out, Trump signs this executive order to get rid of TikTok. It's like, although Zuckerberg did come out and say that, he's not for that. Yeah, for sure. But it's going to be a happy consequence for him if it's like,

It will be temporarily. But I think his argument is like, it's going to set Dana's precedent if we're just deleting – No doubt, but I feel like Zuck always wins. You can't compete with him. No. You cannot and you should not – you shall not compete with him. When Evan Spiegel disregarded the $4 billion offer for Snapchat, I was like – All time.

All time cap. Wow. And now, I mean, he's got a market cap of whatever, $22 billion. But A, that's not all his money. B. Could have been $4 billion right off to the sunset. He's never going to be able to compete with Zuckerberg. It's going to be a slow death.

You can't compete with people who, I don't know if they predicted a pandemic or what. Remember when it kind of got washed under the bridge? Remember when the pandemic started and Facebook was like, oh, yeah, we have 250,000 N95 masks. You can have them. Like, why did you have 250,000 N95 masks? Netflix was like busy building up all their servers and shit. We can take on all this. They were ready.

People are smart people not to be trifled with. Like you said, ride the wave. Get under the wing and roll. If you have awareness, money, and means, I mean, there's – but if you're that type of person, you're going to – like I felt guilty about not suffering during the pandemic. Like the first two months or so, I was like – I was fucking giving money to people, asking if anybody needed help, going above and beyond. Not that I don't help people that ask for help now, but I was like – I was doing it out of guilt. And then I was like, I was doing it out of guilt. And then I was like I've been there. Like when I was in California, when I lived there, I had literally zero dollars in my bank account, 0.00 overnight because I messed with the IRS and obviously you don't do that.

I thought it was fraud. I called. I freaked out. I'm across the country in the middle of 2009, the other crisis that we were having, I had no money and it made me, I mean, an infinitely more resilient, stronger, appreciative person. So if you – How old are you now? 39. I'll be 40 in a month.

Ooh. Old as hell. Old man on the internet, dude. Which is also surprising to people. Yeah, yeah. Well, it's not – I mean, again, that's an old way of thinking where it's like you're too old for this. It's like too old for the – the internet is just life. It's like too old to use this technology.

Like no, man. But I mean I do get the idea of like I feel too old for TikTok. I'm too old for like the trends and like the – Listen, you're too old to be doing a dance on TikTok. Right. But you're not too old to use the fucking TikTok. Exactly. Right, right, right.

Not a shot. So like that kind of shit i think is is old hat as well but what do you what do you uh so are you cool with um uh what you fuck jerry and um yeah that you yeah i know they like i feel like those guys usually catch maybe in this maybe this is because i kind of know you a little bit now but i feel like uh those guys get viewed as like the bad side of memes where it's stealing and it's theft. And I don't really hear people say that about Tanks and Atra. Yeah.

Do you do something different or is it just like reputation difference? First of all, you're not hearing everybody because there are people who hate me out there. Oh, okay. For sure. I know that because they've told me. Well, again, once you've made it, everybody – I've read the memes and cried myself to sleep. I've read the memes.

I've read the DMs and cried myself to sleep. DMs, people are like, yo, I hope you get cancer. Your mom's a whore. And I block them and then their friend will write and like, yo, unblock, what's his name? So you read a lot of the DMs. You must get fucking crazy. Well, you probably get a lot of the DMs, right? It depends on what – on Tank Sinatra and Tank Skin News, I like reading the DMs because a lot of the times they're very positive and it's like, yo, I was having a bad day.

I saw you. I came across your page. Made me smile. Wanted to let you know. I'll write back to that person specifically. No, like, autofill. No, nothing. It's not an intern.

It's me. But I enjoy that. I value community very highly, almost over everything. I don't want to do something if it's not for the greater good of, like, the people that I care about and meeting people who I'm going to care about in the future. Like, I really, really like that part of the meme world we're actually where there's a movie um that i'm in called meme gods it's going to be out soon wow yeah it's very exciting gods it's basically about you know dramatic at all the soul yeah is it a documentary or movie it's a documentary so it's about like i quit my job selling fence do do memes full time, flounder, fail, flip flop, whatever.

Wind up being on Ellen, signing a deal with them, other stuff that happens. So that's the main story of it. But it's also about the people, Fat Jewish, Fuck Jerry, Dizzle St. James, Heck Off Supreme who passed away recently. I wanted to give him a shout out because he was like my favorite. He died like three months ago. Shit. Downer. it's okay um but it's it gives you like a peek behind the people who make the memes because everyone including myself at some point thought these memes just kind of like originated

out of nowhere yeah you know what i mean yeah i guess certain things that are just like in the ether like it's just like oh that just happens like no there's someone who made that it was not only did someone make it it was probably based on their life experience. So if you see this meme, now you know this person a little bit. So I think that's why people maybe like relate to my page a little bit more because they know that if I write a meme, it's based on something that's happened to me. The Fat Jewish and Fuck Jerry, I'm a big hip-hop fan and I always equate them to like the Sugarhill Gang. Okay. The OGs, yeah. First rap group ever, first rap song, pioneers, paved the way.

Come to find out, the whole song was stolen. They didn't write any of the lyrics. Grandmaster Kaz wrote, I mean, he spelled it out in the song. But then they'll never be forgotten. They made all the mistakes. They did all the heavy lifting. People might hate them. They might not

really like only the purists really hate them but purists are annoying in any genre of any art I mean I definitely have spoken ill of them

Falk Jerry in particular but he had something with him though yeah he did something and then like and also like anytime you like

get angry at someone like part of it was born in jealousy as well but that's part of a personal experience you had. You don't hate him because he got big. No, no. That's a different thing.

That's a personal thing. I also think that they're – I remember finding out that – I think it was like Betches Love This or Betches Something was run by a dude. He was just like, yeah, I just know how to – Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I just know how to write like a sorority girl or whatever. I was like, all right, cool. I can't knock the hustle. But also, this is like a look behind the curtain where I was like, oh, I just know how to write like a sorority girl or whatever. And I was like, all right, cool. I can't knock the hustle.

But also, this is like a look behind the curtain where I was like, oh, some of this is all bullshit. You know what I mean? Except for every one guy who's doing it out of like this is my personal experience. Well, a lot of people think Influencers in the Wild is run by some 22-year-old sorority girl. Yeah? Yeah. Just assuming, though. I mean, you don't write that.

We don't try to make it sound like that or anything. Not at all. They just get to think that. I couldn't even if I tried. Yeah. There would be no way for me to get that. We don't try to make it sound like that. Not at all. I couldn't even if I tried. There would be no way for me to do it. No one can get inside the head of a 22-year-old girl, except, I guess, the betches loving this guy. Apparently, that's what I mean. That guy felt like

he got something, which is fine, but it's like I think the more real, the more people kind of respect it, if you will. Did you see the hot ones with Shia LaBeouf? No. Sean Evans kind of asked him a question where it almost feels like he's kind of joking but kind of not. He's like, do you think memes are art?

And Shia, like, pauses. And he's like, of course, man. He goes, they're emotion. Anything that moves you is art. And I thought that was such a fucking cool answer from Shia. Because, like, he would, an actor of his magnitude would be like, oh, that's stupid internet stuff. Fuck that. Yeah. And he was just like, no, man, anything that moves you is art.

Of course, memes are art. And there is true. Well, it's also. Especially in this modern era, you know, it's like. We're also at the, it's like at its nascent stage. Meme's an internet story. Still solid, yeah. So back to the rap thing, like when those guys came out, there were people who were like is not music it's not art it's garbage it doesn't make me feel anything then guys like

nelly mel came and started talking about like their neighborhoods and their experience and that's how i feel myself adam the creator these people who like you know um dr gray fang the people that make a lot of their own content you're getting to know us through our pages so but we've made some mistakes also. And maybe we're not as advanced as some other people. Like Adam the Creator makes his own images and his own captions, which for me is like even a step above what most of us do where we're taking – Find the pictures.

I mean he's – do you know who that is or no? I mean I definitely think I've come across that, but I don't know. He's unreal. So when you say like makes his own pictures, like he's just out there taking pictures of shit? No, Photoshop from scratch. Got it, photoshop from scratch got it from absolute scratch so he's i mean he's but he it takes him three hours to make a meme it takes me 30 seconds right so work smarter not harder man adam come on bro in 30 years when memes are whatever they're going

to be in 30 years when they when they look back on this time period, they'll go, Oh, the fat Jewish and fuck Jerry. Yeah. They started it. Then guys like, you know, thanks and hot train, whoever came along and kind of like progressed it a little bit,

made it more personal. Who knows what's going to be happening in 30 years, whether it's their entire movies or virtual reality or whatever's going to happen. We're all dead. I don't know. Martians, who knows what's going to happen?

God willing, we're all dead. That's great, uh well i mean obviously well i mean just can you make me an account fuck it just keep just start making for other people you ever think about doing that seriously though making uh accounts for other people yeah just cash in on that you find like go to go to a place like this or a big like a media group and be like i'll i'll give you a two million follower account within i don't know a year or whatever you got to pay me whatever amount.

I would just keep it for myself. Yeah, you're right. I guess really what's the reason, right? At that point, what am I building? Unless your flat rate would just be that high. But yeah, you're right. You're just probably always more upside to having control of that account.

I got a fake message from somebody the other day trying to buy my account for $5 million. It was some jerk off Amazon affiliate guy who's sold 55 million dollars worth of product this year i go to his page it's oldest post is from seven hours ago but in my mind i was like would i like would i for five million what's the rate what's the number i have a number i don't know what's the number that you like absolutely would say yes to it would have to be all the pages and And I think the magic number for me just on calculations I've done, I have kids.

I got to worry about college. I'm not that old where I can like – Right off, yeah. I'm 39. I need some money. Like $12 million would be the number where I'd say, all right, I'm not Deng Sinatra anymore. And I don't care about anything. I bet you –

I don't care about anything. You can buy me, my soul, 12 million. I bet you somebody would, but the question always is, is like, well, what's Tank Sinatra if you don't have the – Without Tank Sinatra. Well, Influencers in the Wild makes it a little bit more of a media company. And Tank Sinatra is – they could pay me to half a million dollars a year to continue to run it. There you go. I'm just saying.

The offer is on the table. Yeah, anybody out there. Bezos or Zuckerberg, whatever, whoever, man. Alright, dude, well thanks for coming in. I mean, I would say everyone go follow the page, but I feel like everybody follows all your pages already, so fuck you. Perhaps, but in case they don't, thanks to Nacho, thanks to News, Influences in the Wild,

and my personal page, Meme Daddy. Meme Daddy, love it. Thank you, appreciate it. Dude, thank you so much. I've got some issues that nobody can see. And all of these emotions are pouring out of me. I bring them to the life in you. It's only right. This is the soundtrack to my life.

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