KFC Radio - The Bill Belichick and Jordon Hudson Saga Continues to Get Weirder ft. Nick Murphy

Episode Date: May 6, 2025

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It's gonna be cool. It's gonna be sick. Yeah. And where, where was that audition at? There were two, there was one in Nashville and then one here at the stand in New York. I mean, they did them at a couple of different Yeah, and where was that audition at? There were two there was one in Nashville than one here at the stand in New York I mean they did him in a couple different locations, but it was very cool But you didn't think it went well. Did you I well no I thought I had a good set It was the there was a you know It's about half maybe a third capacity right kind of like seemed like some people that didn't even know what the deal was which is Just more funny to me because I'm like this is who decides

the deal was which is just more funny to me because I'm like this is who decides your tourists right but I just had fun with them and mess around and I don't know what's worse though is like comedy nerds who like might be a tough crowd or like have their favorites play favorite or like that's gonna happen with industry people that have yeah million people and they're just like they have a grudge against you for whatever reason even if you crush crush they're just like, yeah that was good. Right, they're jaded, they've seen the best of the best. We get the same way, like comics you see so many good sets, you're just like, yeah that was good. Even though you're not necessarily lost.

Meanwhile, a civilian is like, that's the funniest thing I've ever seen. That's part of the ignorance is bliss with people that go to shows, they just get to enjoy it. They're not thinking about their set or their thing coming up. I vividly remember the first few shows I went to. I remember Pete Davidson when he was still doing stand-up early when he was like 21 and Ricky Vlez opened for him. And I was like that is the funniest person alive. And he is awesome. I'm not taking away from him. But it was like, and then I saw, I think I saw Donal Rollins. He's one of the hardest hitters out there, Donal Rollins.

He's a tough follow. A couple of the guys that I know their names now, and they are successful, but in the first couple of times I saw them live, and you get them in the room, and it's infectious and all that. It's like, oh, every single person I saw for the first five times, I was like, that's the funniest person ever.

Of course. So if you catch a room full of those, it's yeah, but that's the beauty of you have not having been through the yeah The war zone that is stand-up comedy so you get to just enjoy the finished product as opposed to do you think there's any like It's it's almost like a magic act in some regards So there's similarities yeah, but like like when you've done it so many times, and like, I don't know, it just becomes like the laughter is just almost part of it. You know what I mean?

It's a very- Yeah, sometimes you just see like if they're laughing or if they're not, you're just sort of, as opposed to, I don't know, but yeah, you do get into like a zone sometimes. You're like, all right, this is a really good set. But other times you'll do really well. And you're just like, yeah, that went really well, but you're not like over the moon about it good set yeah but other times you'll do really well and just like yeah that went really well but you're not

like over the moon about it. It's also very interesting to watch crowds because I don't like when people will blame a crowd but there is definitely moments of like... I think so but I agree with the mentality you shouldn't blame the crowd yeah there's there's something for every crowd aside from pandering you never want to do that but there's something in some shows I'm just yeah, I just didn't figure out what the thing was for that crowd. It just is what it is. That night in Austin, I was like, you know, I had tears in my eyes at some sets, and the

crowd was kind of like, claptor, and like, what the fuck is wrong with you guys? That was just me as a fan. I can't imagine when you're on stage and you know you're hitting all your punch lines and everything, and it's just like not getting the reactions. Fuck you guys Well, you can play with that too I mean sometimes just acknowledging that they're not laughing at stuff that normally hits is funny Sometimes the rooms half and half so yeah these guys are laughing these guys aren't that's also fun. That's part of your what's wrong with you guys

What's these guys are the fun table over here having a great time? Yeah? Yeah? You know you guys don't like assault you guys Whatever trick you want to use you know I was gonna say I thought when you first said it I thought it was silly that Like tourist rooms are choosing Netflix is introducing, but then the more I thought about more It actually makes a lot of sense because that's who they want that's America I'm saying tourists. I mean, I'm just guessing. I don't know if they actually were. A lot of Asians. But, you know. They're taking pictures of each other. I'm trying to do my set.

They're like, oh. No, no, they were lovely, lovely Asians. I see Asians taking pictures all the time. This is what the conversation was meant to be steered towards. Let's talk about this. It's because I live near at least one of, I don't know how many offices they have,

but one of the Google headquarters in New York. And there are always Asian people across the street taking pictures of it. And I can never decide, are they just like? Call the police or not. Are they like, whoa, see something, say something. But are they like, are they Asian people who are just like, whoa, that's Google?

Or are they going into their first day of work? I was gonna say, this is them, like, this is my new office. Yeah, yeah. They're just sending it back to mom. And you're like, look at all these goddamn immigrants out here. It's like, no, I work here, man.

Sorry. It's also funny, and I just learned this, doing the bracket the other day. Because right where they take pictures, there's always Asian guys taking pictures of Google, and then it's right behind, it's on the sidewalk across the street from the Google, and then there's just an empty lot.

Like there's a chain link fence up, and there's no building, it's just an empty lot. But they're always pressed into the chain link fence taking pictures of the empty lot and I was saying that on the bracket the other day and Nick Taranis on that show Nick Taranis a big Pokemon go player Was like he was like dude now your apartment is a gym and I was like is that a thing? It's a big thing. He goes in. It's like a gym in Pokemon go I guess where they keep he's like you're the leader fights dude

I didn't even know I had the app because I've been to your apartment many times without telling you He's like I'll be on your eyes like crazy on your front porch, and I've just not told you Yeah, it's remember when that started I In retrospect is pretty lame, but I was on like a crusade against it. Like when that was so viral, I had a whole blog series of being like, These people are so fucking ridiculous. Hillary Clinton. Pokemon Go to the polls. And then she fucking lost.

If you do that, it better fucking work. Pokemon Go to the polls, I forgot about that. That would be very funny, like she's calling up, you know, Nintendo, Put all your Pokemon Go to the polls, I forgot about that. That would be very funny. She's calling up Nintendo, put all your Pokemon next to the Pokemon. Yeah. I quit Pokemon right now. I remember I had the exact opposite of you on Pokemon Go. You liked it?

Well, I didn't like it, but me and Lou really took it seriously. Yeah, you did it. Everybody did for at least a week, and then some people went a few months after that. That's why I can't believe people are still doing it. We were probably like two to three weeks, but it was the summer we moved here, or it was before that, so it was just Lou and I were living in Newport, and we would just go out

every night, hunt Pokemon. I spent thousands of dollars. No way. We talk about the fences, people got in trouble. They got in trouble because, yeah, they put a Charmander in private property. People were jumping over shit and that got into like a legal thing I think.

It's pretty impressive technology. Where they had to be like alright let's not put this in this woman's bedroom. And then there's a guy outside her window just doing that shit. Let's put this super rare Pokemon on like a children's playground. That's crazy man. That guy's like no no I almost got him almost got it right. Nah, I broke. I got it. Just hang on a second. I also had a blog series for a long time.

In retrospect, I should not have. It was just called Asian People Are Aliens Part. And I put part like 9,250. You know what I mean? Endless numbers of just being like, Asian people are not humans. They're just so insane. Clip that. humans. Clip that. When I see that, the pictures and the like I'm just like we I can't believe we're from the same planet.

You could not be more different. I'm sure like the first white people said the same thing Here we are again Made no progress You stay on your side I Did make that joke once I did Georgia Tech a frat party show and Georgia Tech And I said I wasn't sure like if I was going the right way I had my GPS out Looking for the frat house, but then I was like I'm like am I even close to Georgia Tech And then I saw three Asian guys playing Pokemon go walk past here like I'm getting close But then I was like I had my phone out like this so they must have thought I was playing Pokemon go too

I'm just looking for the GPS. The whole world is just secretly Pokemon going. I'm just spinning in a Thetakot I'll say this watching you over here. Yeah. You know what you're doing. You know more than Pokemon. I played a lot. I did play a lot. I'm saying, for those first couple months,

yeah, I was into it too. When I saw you flick this, I was like, oh yeah, you throw the ball. Yeah, yeah. Go to the Raids. Hit it and like, captures it? Yeah. You go to like a raid, where you have to get a legendary,

it's a bunch of people meet up. See, this is where they're gonna tune out. I mean, I remember though. This is where people are gonna lose people, I'll bet. People in like, Central Park like, running and shit. You were going to a raid? Yeah have to get a legendary, it's a bunch of people meet up. This is where they're gonna tune out. This is where people are gonna lose people. People in Central Park like running and shit. You were going to run? Yeah, it was embarrassing. My buddy was more into it and he would go with the people. I would stay behind a tree.

I'm not gay, man. I'm just here. This is a business trip. Get this Mewtwo, we go home. I'm not talking to these fucking, these are different. Losers over here. These are not human beings. fucking these are different Not human beings These people are from another planet

That's not me. I'm a regular guy. Yeah, but a quick little hobby over my family. I don't tell my wife Whatever is that? So that's still I'm sure that's probably making like a billion dollars a day and you know it right? Oh, yeah They're gonna be rich forever, man. They just keep coming out with new versions, new Pokemon, new shit. On that same podcast, can you pull up the 1000th Pokemon? The podcast was Nick's least favorite things. And he's furious about this 1000th Pokemon who got introduced. Something like gold, something. Just go to images. Take anus off. Yeah that one right there. Goldango. Goldango. I know about this guy. And they were all the Pokemon

people on the show were like furious. They're like he sucks he's the worst Pokemon. They weren't talking about his attributes they just talking about strictly like what he looks like. Yeah. I had to give them as a guy's bad news. He looks like every Pokemon Well, here's the thing they you can only make so many and they're running out of ideas We used to make fun of this one in high school called clef key. It's just a ring of keys And it's like how long did it take you guys to come up with that? Whose job is it to come up with the new? I think there are people who are trolling like let's make as bad of a Pokemon as we can and see dude

They could do this. Hey, we got TV at sore and they're just like that's in put it in It was a card game and then a video game or vice versa Card cards first as it cars first. I don't know. that's actually a very good question. I don't even know I thought it was the Gameboy games like red and blue. I thought that was the original and then the cards. I don't know Car not a card game for wow okay, so it was the Gameboy yeah, yeah red and I remember It's like to me I think a Pokemon is like I was too old for it and it was like a new age thing But like nice. Yeah, I was swept right up in it. Yeah, I'm surprised. I'm not I was into all that nerd shit

I'm into the earth shit now. Yeah, but it was like I was a nerd as a kid and I'm a nerd as an adult Well now it's like oh, yeah, it's it's the it's step brothers. Well, they're like now we got night vision goggles over 40 Yeah, this is way more awesome. Yeah Yeah, I remember one time being at the beach and I was probably, it was probably 96, 97, something like that. A couple of my friends were there, they had their cards and I was like, let's go trade.

I don't even, honestly I don't even remember how trading cards actually worked or played or whatever. But we at least, you know, we're pretending to. And we did it on my dad's car, on the hood of his brand new car. And like in the the process of passing cards back and forth we scratched it a lot course No, and I remember just getting like yelled at by my dad for fucking up his car but it was one of the more serious like yellings he's ever given me because he was like and Also, I've clearly failed as a dad

Fucking You were at the beach fucking training Pokemon. It was one card. You scratched my card with my car. He's like, dude, you were at the beach, dude. Half naked women, sports, water, whatever the fuck you wanted. Go play football and get a boner, bro. You scratched my car with a nine iron. I wouldn't have said anything.

That's good. My boys learning the right stuff. It was like, you do the eland. Was that what it was? Yeah, eland. Yeah, I'm fine with you elanding my car. was like, you do the Eland, was it? That was the name, right? Yeah, Eland. Yeah, I'm fine with you Elanding my car, but like, it was so easy.

What were you playing? Well, here's the fucked up part. Pokemon, dude. Here's the fucked up part. You know how expensive original Pokemon cards are now? Sure. So actually, he scratched your cards with his card. Yeah.

Because if you get those rated, dude, you got a Charizard original, that thing goes for 10 grand I used to play Magic the Gathering you know that of course that's some real nerd shit Yeah, and I was old enough young yeah I was I was doing it when it was like easy to attain a bunch of cards yes And even though I was probably in like first second third fourth grade So there were cards that like the collectible shoe store that was like $400 that I was like,

that's a million dollars, I'll never get it. But now that's worth like a quarter of a million dollars. Like big money. Because I have the same thing and I have almost none of my original cards. I don't know where they are. You don't think about it like that when you're a kid. Like this is an investment.

You just bought Bitcoin. You ever seen the original Saw? The movie? Yeah, he wakes up in the bathtub. Yeah. And then the key goes down the drain. And at the end of the movie, the bad guy wakes up. It's the big twist.

And he goes, the key's in the bathtub. Well, he remembers at the beginning of the movie, it went down the drain. It's gone. That's Pokemon cars. Because he wasn't thinking about it. He just woke up out of a stupor. And he's like, what the hell's going on?

Not realizing it's already over. It's too late. Yeah. That's Pokemon cards. They're gone. There's no way to get my originals back. I think Post Malone paid like $2 million for one. Logan Paul's got that big Charizard in his chest.

But that's like real shit. They're really expensive. As a kid, we, like my house my all my siblings we chose to back beanie babies so we fucked up but did that did those get expensive if you still have them but they had like a window they had their moment I think now you can get like a couple hundred bucks here and there and there's play like a few that really pop off but there was a era like in between our house was full of I had a sister so she was all over those things I was gonna say the

princess the princess dies I remember my dad was like on a work trip in Canada and we really made a missus flight we're like do not come home yeah without the princess died post death or post I'm like 99% sure I don't remember her death but I do remember I wonder if it was like if you had that and then she died And you were like Yeah, I think that these show up with a little out there. Yeah, they put a pretty big twist on the paparazzi They decided a trunk full of fucking princess died. Yeah There are so many other car

Funeral we're the general autograph these are we're killing her sell them out of their car. We're either getting an autograph, these or we're killing them. I mean these are always like this is what it's listed for I don't know if anyone's buying it for $292,000 but looks like they still definitely have some value but man there was that was a crazy. They were smart about it though I remember reading about this I'm pretty sure everyone you bought had a predicted value. They almost like built it into the, it's like, you're buying it now for like five bucks,

but like in 10 years, this will be worth like 500. Yeah. And it was almost like marketing of it. That's what I mean. Yeah. But what a fun way to just put that on there. Totally. We don't know, man. We're gonna tell you.

There's actually a movie about it that's, it's decent, something great, but Zach Galifacus and Elizabeth Banks It's an Apple TV movie called like the Beanie Boom or something like that. Oh How did that do? It was one of those directed streaming so I don't know but it's like if you're like buy this movie now Ten years from now If you're looking for something to have on the background, it's fine

I wouldn't recommend it as like a sit down and make it a movie night. That's the dream dude. Just have background shit that I get residual check. Anytime I'm in like a CVS and I just hear some pop song that like is not awesome but it's in CVS it's like God the checks on that. Just make some mediocre shit. Get yourself on 167 on that. Yeah I would love that. If they're playing my comedy album in the back of a Lowe's. It's just like, yeah dude.

You know what the key is? You gotta, you know, when you make pop music it's like 99% love songs. Sure. You got like once a year, make a like, I'm gonna make it to the top of the mountain type song. And it gets played in every inspirational fucking show and sports theme. I almost think the opposite of that. With like, like Rachel Plat fight song every time her phone rings She must be so depressed was just like well something horrible happened So I've been to I've been to three Rachel platen concerts in my life none of them were for good things

Yeah, you know what I mean like it was we need you for this terrorist attack to like yeah She's all a children's hospital You'd like every like charity thing I go to and like and Rachel platen's performing It's just like bombing a bunch of special needs Bombing in the Middle East she's texting the president like I'm on it She opened the playoffs the other night, oh yeah, she opened for the California fires Yeah, they did they had to have the game in Arizona because they couldn't play it in LA. Yeah. Rachel Platten started the thing. This is my fight. So it's like, yeah, I don't know.

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You know? If you were banned and you got on the radio, you made it. Now it's not quite that, but it's a big step. Yeah, it's a cool credit. I mean, it's, there's a lot of other really good comics on the thing. Who else is on it? So there's a bunch step. Yeah, it's a cool credit. I mean, it's there's a lot of other really good comics on the thing Who else so there's a couple bunch of other mothership people Cam Patterson Ari Matty Oh fuck. Yeah, fuck. Yeah, kill Tony and Ruby said Nick is also super funny She's not one of the regulars on kill Tony

I don't think but she's a mothership comic to amber Autry is a friend of mine from Nashville and then I know Ray Lau He opened for me in Sacramento. It's very funny guy from California California so I like I know like half the lineup so it's gonna be a good good green room no New York comics I don't know the answer to that I don't know the other half yeah they're all great I'm sure we just haven't been on shows together yet I feel like a lot of New York oh Eva Evans I believe is from New York and correct me if I'm wrong so I apologize if that's not accurate, but that's at least one, and then there's probably some others too, but I don't know.

That's cool to have it more broad. I feel like New York comedy, I feel like there's always, obviously, the air, that's the supreme. It's very similar to rap in my mind. It's how people talk about it, at least. It's like, New York is the best comedy. I don't know if that's accurate, but people say we think of ourselves as rappers also Would you agree I feel like New York rap was like it was it it started there or like had the best

Well, I'm biased from Atlanta. So like I'm part of the you know, the I always stand for the Andre 3000. Yeah Yeah, yeah But that's what I mean like like until like Andre came through and said that and then Like that kind of came true you have like sorry breaking Wayne like with like open the light of New York I don't like them. Yeah, and like It's still a thing, but if you look around it's more Austin LA, you know, Atlanta now So like those are the spotlights are right now for sure. Yeah, man, I kill Tony stuff. See you How do you like those guys being like?

for sure. Yeah man, that Kill Tony stuff's huge. How do you like, those guys being like, Kill Tony regulars is like, they get on, they do the show and they do well and Tony just invites you back to the point. You're almost like the same as you become a regular at a club. I don't really know exactly how the process works or how he chooses. Cause it's like, we know that Ari and Cam are like Kill Tony guys now. Yeah, yeah. But a lot of people have been on there and it's like, did they just not do as well or did Tony not personally like them enough to invite you back or whatever? You don't have to ask Tony. It's his own little ecosystem. I don't even know really Tony that well we've chatted a couple times. Have you done Kill Tony? I have not done Kill Tony. You just gotta wait for like the call on that? I guess yeah I mean it's I'll do it

I'll do the panel although I'm not really like a huge name so I don't know if they'd have me on that but it seems like a fun time just kind of mess around and talk some shit. It's crazy that that's within the comedy world. It's like a little subset of it where if you have a good set or a memorable moment or like Cam with the rocks or whatever, that's all it took. You go viral and then that's it. Yeah, man.

I mean, that's what went viral, not even the set itself, which is also an interesting thing. A lot of people's interviews, that's why the interview's so important. A lot of people's interviews go viral and not their set. I was going to say, I don't even remember what his. Even though I'm sure he had a good set. I just right It's just that's not what people talk about they talk about the rocks thing

Yeah, which wasn't even he told me his set was about having roaches in his apartment. I talked to cam about it Yeah, yeah I'm sure it was good, but the moment was the rocks Yeah It's kind of the same thing with like podcasts and like clips and all that Which some in some regards sucks because you're like it's very reductive and you're kind of like we don't even know what he said in his set. This is what went viral but... I think the cream will rise kind of thing like I'm an old-school guy I got into the clip

stuff I've kind of slowed down with it just because I've gotten busy and I'm I do all of it I do my own editing I do my own and I've had people reach out and offer to do my clips but like they charge and so it's a money thing And then will they do it exactly how I like to do my clips I don't know will the clip even goes even worth spending all this time on yeah I think that is I think that is the future but for me is just like just focus on the stand-up and then yeah but that's what I think what it needs to happen is I Mean ideally in a perfect world the content creator runs their own accounts makes their own promotional shit because then it's just like it's

all natural organic real all that shit but it's also just not right feasible because I think you know you focus on your comedy and then there is a whole industry to itself of like I want to be a clipper I want to run a content page I want to put up clips and like to you that's like busy work that you don't want to do but if that was your passion which sounds crazy But there are people who are passionate about it. There's guys. It's like let's link that up We split the revenue of this, you know, let's make it a YouTube channel you do the clips. I You know, I get to chunk of the money you get a little bit of money But it also raises my brand and like let's just go there's guys that do that

There's guys that got into stand-up at starting as clip guys Yeah, and they're like hey I'll film all your shows if I could open for you And so then now all of a sudden you're you're in theaters you're in you're only two years in but you're the clip guy And you're doing all this and there's an art to it where if you're good at it Yeah, there's different ways to do it in the quick zoom in and out keep the eye moving and all that kind of bullshitting like the the speed of you know, it's like you did the set and it's up tomorrow the Next day. Whatever day whatever like yeah consistency you know

especially I hear it from the streamers more because you know they'll do like a 12-hour stream oh yeah and no one's gonna like the diehards will watch that but then most people want to just see the clips yeah so you know there was a there's people talking about I think it was like Kai Sanet paid like hundreds of thousand like a hundred thousand dollars a month to Clippers yeah because if there's I mean I always like I remember there was a Twitter account that was called KFC radio uncut and it was just like a fan who started it I was like this is so awesome there's someone out there who likes us enough

they just like do this and it's good for us but it's not the KFC uncut keep doing what you do it was like a good you know it's a good sign that someone likes it enough to do it and the fact that they are doing it's good for business and it's like that was one if you could it's good for business. And it's like, that was one. If you could have dozens of those accounts. It's all an investment. I mean, with Kai doing that, that's like LeBron on his body, you know?

Yeah. Spends what, a million a year on his body? It's the same thing. That's my bag, yeah. So I think that clipping became a thing. And now it almost kind of got a little nauseating. Everything was a clip, clip, clip. But then I think it kind of like settles into like, it's a business now. Like it's its own, you know, the way you have to have your own social media.

You also have to have your own clips channels and they have to run it. And, you know, it's, it's like kind of a fad and then settles in as just like a necessity. Settles in and there'll be a next thing. And again, I think just the, I'm an old school guy, like I said, then settles in as just like a necessity. Settles in and there'll be a next thing. Totally. Again, I think just the, I'm an old school guy like I said, so just sticking with what I originally started out doing, which is just stand up comedy. If we can just keep, am I getting better every year?

Am I just still getting better? I think you'll get some sort of opportunity to get something. And so yeah, now I got some momentum. That doesn't mean it's over. That doesn't mean it's,. That doesn't mean it's And again, I appreciate you even say that I didn't come on here to promote that but no, I appreciate you saying it, but yeah, I'm not like Dave Chappelle now or anything and It's a very good credit ever know though I mean as long as those like those you have a chance that maybe that'll yeah

Yeah, I mean, yeah, there's gonna hopefully will lead to more things But again, the stand-ups got to stay consistent and then keep writing the new jokes. I was talking with Matt Edgar He's a great comic. He's in Austin now. He was a comedy store guy in LA. He's been doing it for a long time He came up with Tony and uh, he was saying it's just the next joke. That's what it's about. Yeah, what's the next new joke? That's what we get excited about where it's like because you'll go crazy if you're just doing the same Our you know, Louie changed the game on that where you gotta have a new hour. You don't have to, nobody's Louis. But at this point.

But you know, working towards that. Maybe if you're gonna have a new hour every three years, every five years. Well, especially with the internet now. Just working towards something new. I mean, I'd imagine back in the day, you got one good set and you do it for the next decade. Yeah, because nobody's gonna. Because no one's seeing it, no one's talking about it. Exactly.

I haven't come to Tampa yet, so there's a whole new market. Which is why CrowdWork took off, because now comics don't want to burn their material. Then we sort of figured out that people don't necessarily care that much. Again, we're not Louie, we're not like, they're not following you that tight. Some of them want to see that joke again if that's why they came to see you in the first place. It's like going to see a band. It's like, I know what your closer clothes was gonna be I want to fucking see it

It's a little different because music people do want to hear the hits But if you do see the same guy twice, and it's the exact same hour people will talk about the exact same ride home Yes, but like I think you should hit your two or three big ones and some guys will do that at the end Gaffigan will get to do the hot pockets, do all that kind of shit, and that's fun. But yeah, you want to update it for your own sanity, but also obviously to keep the act fresh. I think the crowd work thing is another thing

that's the pendulum's gone back and forth. I think it was very funny and seemed revolutionary at the time. Then people started to catch on that it's like, wait a minute, that wasn't really natural. You just kind of shoehorned it in. Sure. Like, this is a written joke that you use the audience to.

There's tricks. There's tricks to dive in and out of your bits, or some this or some that. And I like doing it. I think you should be able to do it. I don't think it should be your whole act. If that's not what you want to do, some guys want to do a whole hour of crowd work.

That's great, too. Well, that's what I mean. And then it almost became people kind of criticizing it. Of course. Treating like it's lazy. Yeah because guys started blowing up and they got mad about it. Right but also I think I mean like you look at Big Jay it's like yeah he's a fucking legend and a goat. Of course. If you're like a hack I get it but I think the guys who are really good at it it is kind of the highest form of you're thinking on your feet. Yeah. It's not it's not that magic show thing I was talking about. You're not rehearsing it a thousand times.

You can be funny right here, right now with no... So I think it's actually, you know, I think I get why some people kind of soured on it, but then I think it went too far the other direction, you know? Yeah, I think there's definitely a middle ground to land in that's a more balanced sort of act. I like to do a little bit of both. If I need to do just a set, I'll do just a set. If it's a crowd work show, I'll do some of that. I like being able to do it and have fun with it. The crowd likes it. I think some of the guys that are like above doing it, you know, is a little ridiculous. That's yeah.

They're like too pure. You're talking to your audience. Yeah. Or whatever. And oh yeah, I'm not going to do all that bullshit. It's like, all right, well maybe you can't. Yeah, well that. No. Yeah, I'm not gonna do all that bullshit. It's like alright. Well, maybe you can't Call anybody out, but it's like Yeah, there's a balance. There's a balance. Yeah some jokes do some crowd work do one do the other Just have a good show have fun with this stuff and don't be a hacky Bullshit guy. Yeah, I mean I when I feel like Matt right catches a lot of heat for it

He sure does your guys, but when I see some of those I'm like This is a fucking wild story of like yeah this guy in the audience like has no legs or you know whatever and it's like I don't that's I mean listen dude if that's just I mean dude now. He's miked up like fucking Steve jobs No, this is wild So to me this thing and he's raking in the dough and good for him I am a very big fan of like if if I Get within like the fraternity. There's a way to do this and our like forefathers did it this way and we must do it this way to

Do something different? You know what I mean? Like if you're doing something different like yeah Everybody hates change sure that the old heads are always gonna hate change or whatever it is, you know. The mic is funny though, I always thought that was a little bit... Well, and having said that, Matt Rife did like my Instagram story twice, so shout out. I like Matt. You can't take that away from him. I feel like he's polarizing. Shout out. And I don't even know if that was an assistant, they just made a mistake.

Boy, did I screenshot that quick. That's mine now. We're getting that framed. Well, you know the originator, I was just talking about this with somebody was it Todd Berry He was the first one shout out to fucking Todd Berry for being the first guy to put out a crowd work special Before it was cool before it was like clip heavy and all that and it was brilliant When everybody go watch that it was different cities. He did it. He was no when oh man. I was still in college I think so like

24 at least maybe ten years ago, maybe less than that. But like it was a while ago Todd Barry crowd work special he does like five cities does some in-between road trip stuff and he's so good at it And he'll still do it at live shows. He's like everybody wants crowd work now That just we I took I did my set and I just took the crowd Work parts of it or is that, they go out there for an hour and just do crowd work? Todd Berry? In general, like when you see, you know what I mean?

A crowd work show, dude it's just crowd work. Like they don't even go up there with their regular set. No, and he talks about that too in the documentary, well in the special, there's documentary-esque like parts to it where he goes, it's almost more relieving that I don't have to have a set memorized. Yeah, yeah. I'm just going to walk out there and make it happen. I can see that going both ways though. Of course, but if you've been doing it long enough and you're comfortable with it, you'll

find something. You'll find something that you can hit and you just got to go. But there's one crowd that's being kind of tough and he just walks out and it's something like he's like, man, last show, crushed so hard, I walked out and talked to this lady about having a cup of coffee for an hour, that's all it takes, folks. I see you with a cup of coffee, it's over. Something like that, because he's that good.

He just knows it's gonna go, you know? Yeah, you can reference other shows and all that kind of shit, but yeah, dude, just do your thing, you know? Shout out to Todd Berry. So you filmed the audition and then you've got it? No, no, none of those were taped. We just did the audition.

The taping will be what's in there. But I mean, so do you have the material you're going to do for that? Yeah. Yeah, okay, so it's the same. So you don't have to write something new right now. You're going to go with what you've got. No, no, no, no. Yeah.

That's got to feel good too. It's like you know that. I'm just going gonna do crowd work. I always think of Shane talking about when he got SNL the first time, not as a cast member, but as a host. And he called Louis CK, and he asked Louis for advice. And he was like, what should I do? And Louis said, do your best stuff.

And he's like, yeah, but when you got up there, you did something totally different Yeah, I'm so much better I'm Louie CK. Yeah, and he by the way, he's talking to like the second best of all time Very cool conversation to get to have. Yeah. Yeah And to know he's probably right but also even the fact that you're on the fucking phone with him means you're doing pretty fucking The money I'm sure that Shane is making is probably unimaginable and the way it's actually not I think it's posted online And then

Chains like top three. Yeah, but I think more even more than that is I feel like his social media Like every time I see him post something it's just another awesome experience where it's like oh Shane's just with Wu Tang tonight. He's living the dream. Like everybody he meets or the places he's going or he's like inside of another stadium or hanging out with McConahay and put it on a story. Yeah right. No caption needed. I was gonna say he's also so not a social media guy when he does put up a picture it's just a nuclear bomb. Well that's kind of what you want. You don't want to be able to live your life. You're that big of a person It's a great spot to be though because I've always said if you are big enough and talented enough that you can do that and

Keep some mystery and keep your social media like reigned in. Yeah Awesome, of course for me. I'm like I got to throw everything against the wall It's you and stick. Yeah, I mean, but you know know like I don't really need this but when I do do it, it's gonna be like, oh shit Oh, how sick is that? Yeah, it's kind of almost cooler to sort of be shadows and then you drop something I mean, that's kind of a cool right now where he'll just drop like a new special. I don't know Everyone's like what eight episodes of what it's actually so weird like I'm just on Louie's email list Yeah, like you just get an email from Louie. It's like hey guys did a comedy special. What yeah, so casual Oh, yeah, you know you see gay.com dropping like 20 bucks

Well, it was just Michelangelo just DMing you like hey, I just painted a new ceiling It's up. I mean just look up the oh Adrian I a peluchi had her new special. She's great. He sent an email promoting that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that was the first email I got from Louie in a while. It is such a self-fulfilling thing. Like your friends.

Yeah, yeah. And her friends. Louie, what's up? You're replying to it all the time. Pretty one-sided, but. Says at the bottom, do not reply. And I was like, hello, Louie. Specifically, John Fidelberg,

please stop responding to these. I think when you, if you act that way and sell it that way, people believe in it that way. But you really got to have the goods to do that. The product speaks for itself, definitely. Because if you're like, ooh, surprise album and nobody fucking goes and listens, it's like, well, I should have done a three-month run-up. Well, Louis is the one that said that, that if you do the same hour as last year, they're going to have a great time, the audience,

but they're never gonna see you again. If you have a new hour now that you're fans for life, so that's why he started doing it. Now, he's also capable of doing that, and it takes 40 fucking years, or 30, whatever, to get there. I almost feel like it's one of those things, what was it, like the five minute mile,

could never be broken, and then once they did it, everyone could do it. Yeah, but it's still, I it. Yeah but it's still I remember. Yeah that's crowd work. Not that you know you'll be the best or have your new hours great every time but I would guess I would imagine I have no idea that like early on people thought like you create a set and then that's your job. Yeah and then that's your hours like 20 years. Right and then but then once you just flipped your mindset of like you keep writing not to say that it's always gonna be amazing But it's like oh, I can I can do another set of either our hated Louie, too

There's interviews about this they hated Louie for doing that the old heads Just keep the hour yeah, what the fuck you do yeah, yeah, we're crushing all this puss We're just doing our one hour. They love it. They don't know that we don't have shit else Doing windmills, doing behind the back. Yeah, as you say, it's like the three-point line. It's like, wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. We're laying the ball up, dude.

What are you doing shooting all the way out there? Dunks, the alley-oop and semi-pro. People can't just go flying through the air like that, Jackie. That's what they were saying to Louie. Yeah, like, we have a good fucking thing going here. I think it's good for the game. I think it's good to update your shit obviously and people want to hear the new stuff. Oh what's his take on this? You know speaking of big acts by the way did you ever do with Bird or is that still later?

No November. Oh okay so you got more time. Got more time. All right. I always say about it, I'm like, sitting here, I'm not nervous. I think I would be... You say that now. Sitting here, May, April, I'm ready to go. Here's the thing, me in this room with three people, not as nervous as I might be with 25,000 people. He's like, Bert, you better bring your shit. I'm ready. Well, the idea of an empty room not laughing, like I went to Seguro at MSG the other night. And I was sitting on the floor so I could look around

and really get how big it is. Feel it. And I was like, it's just so comically big. Again, when you're standing on the stage, I'm sure it's very different. But I was like, when Burt first asked me, I had a tough two weeks of sleep. I did not sleep well. I'm fine again now.

And I'm sure as I get closer to the date, it'll get bad again. But again, just sitting here trying to analyze myself, I think the room is scarier to me than that. Because it's just a sea of nothing. I don't even know. People getting their beers and all that. Yeah. You really are.

It is a little bit big for what stand-up comedy was originally designed for. Right. I don't even think it's good for the people who are superstars. It's like, it's not, you know. Sure, yeah. I mean, well, the money's great, obviously. But I mean, like, the sound and the vibe and all that.

No, exactly. I've been to some of those, and I've sat towards the back, and there's people just having full blown conversations. Cause they're not close enough to the action. Like they can hear it obviously over the PA system and they'll have their fun moments, but it's not a 7500, 200, 300 seater where you're right there.

This is all that's happening. There's not some guy flipping his hot dog over here and some lady yelling at her boyfriend over here and we're in the nosebleeds. It's like, this is more of just sort of the show of it, but it's not like what stand-up comedy's designed for. This is for Taylor Swift. I feel like stand-up comedy's like Bunker Hill.

Like, you see the whites in their eyes. Yeah, yeah, man. This is way better. It's more intimate. This is like, I don't know, it's just a group of, again, I'm probably gonna get on that stage and be fucking terrified and- That's like Bunker Hill if the enemies on a projector

That's 50 feet tall, you know Don't worry I've already thought about you know, you should do is take your shirt off Bird starts sweating backstage like fuck The honestly I like the one thing I thought about a lot is like when I walk and I see myself on the Jumbotron, I'm gonna see my peripheral. You're knowing? And it's just gonna be a fucking mean profile.

I'm gonna be like, oh my God. It's a Roman nose. That's what my nose looks like 10 feet tall. You honestly, you should. God damn. But you know, that'll get a laugh though. You saved it. Oh, I was planning on going down.

I did one. I mean, your nose will be like an 18 foot nose. I did one at Netflix Fest last year and it wasn't a Jumbotron that size but we were on like probably 50 foot tall monitors and I just kind of looked at it and like it's pretty cool and then that gets a lot of you know you can do a lot of it's like the double dare nose if you walk out there you just go whoa you know, you can do a lot of, even if it's like the double dare nose, remember that? If you walk out there and you just go, whoa, you know, that'll get some something. I'm not telling you to do that, but with that many people, you know. Also, I mean, it's like the built-in audience you have is going to just be like happy that you did it.

Of course. They're going to think it's cool as shit. The audience doesn't know you, doesn't care. The built-in audience I have will be 15 people there, all backstage. I'm not even saying there. I just mean like Like do you crush yeah, we loved it man. It was great I don't I mean I've seen you do it enough times now that I'm also like you can just do Well, I don't know are you gonna go out there and like the way out when I saw Ricky Valdez I was like, I don't care about Pete Davidson. That's the guy

I don't know people are gonna be saying like Bert who I want to go see Feitelberg But you are like competent enough that it'll just it'll be a comedy set. Yeah, like and I'll tell you what you probably get some Burt fans Out of it, too. Yeah, that's all the thing. You got 15,000 people there. It's gonna be or whatever it is. Yeah, you know We're gonna walk up here like I like that for I like that guy's nose I was talking to one of Burt's like people on someone Burt's team and she was like you're gonna perform to 120,000 people that weekend and I was like wait Yeah, it'll be very fun I'm really I'm really excited I think it'll be cool And that's the level I'm at I can't offer you some shit like that. Yeah, there's a bird dead on here

I yeah, yeah, I'm like John you want to open for me in Milwaukee How does that sound 50 cedar? Yeah I will open for anybody on this show. That's a fact. All right some fucking schmuck on on threads of all things Instagram's really shoving threads down my yeah. Well, they me a lot. I'm gonna say I'm kind of enjoying it. I've never posted a thread, but they are... Neither of our, but I see like the... They just kind of sneak it into the middle of your Instagram feed. But every time I try to hit more than it's like download the app, I'm like I'm not fucking around. Oh, so I do have the app, because when it first came out, I did spend more time there.

It's not good, but it's fine. Yeah. Yeah, I randomly saw some dude who was like I just saw a Saw a clip of like a Barstool Bro podcast with Bert Kreischer Just offering up like a spot to open on one of his shows and like and that's why we're at where we're at on Comedy and I could you're like, I wonder what podcast that happened on Click on his thing and of course, you know, he has like, I wonder what podcast that happened on. Click on that. But I click on his thing. And of course, he has like, you know, Tom Smith comedy in his thing. And he's got like 900 followers.

And I was like, oh, I mean, yeah, you would, you wish this happened to you, bro. We just fucking plugged him, idiots. What do you do? Put a link to the tickets. Tom? I don't even know what it was. Well, Tom, I am for sure an Epo baby.

And I'm cool with it, dude. But he'll open for you too, Tom. I also don't like that either, though. It's like, in terms of like comedy, stand-up comedy, it's a gift, right? But like, whereas this person did open mics for 10, 15 years, you did this. Yeah, yeah.

You build your own way to get to the top. You know what I mean? It's like, if you were truly a nobody off the street, I could see it being like what the fuck for sure, but it's like yes He didn't just do that to you because you're just some I guess I blog I do sketches I act Social media connects a lot of the stuff. I mean dude. There's a there's a great show called stamp town was Zack Zucker That was on Moon Tower the festival. I just did Zack's awesome. He's the best. I've done the show one time It was awesome. It's a lot of sound effects and acts and theater guys and it's a show, it's a performance and he's up there the whole time doing like kind of stand up comedy, kind

of crowd work and kind of sound effects. It's a great show. They just had Neil Patrick Harris on it. Really? And he's like crowd surfing at the end of the day. It's like, yeah, because that's Neil Patrick Harris. That's not just some guy. Right. Neil Patrick Harris and their boys, hey, come on stage. We'll figure it out. That's the same thing. I like that shit better. You find a gay guy.

A gay blonde. And you put him on the show. But Burt came up the right way himself, too. He's an old school guy, too. So he knows the grind, and he knows what it takes. Burt's very sad. While this will be a spectacle for you and it's awesome and it's gonna be huge like to get good you still got to do the smaller rooms and come up that way and do it there you

know. He knows this isn't gonna be like a thing where you get a Netflix special out of it or something but it's gonna be fucking sick and you're gonna have an awesome time. Burt's in the business of fun. He's very very Bert takes care of his openers That's all I've heard. I've only met him a handful of times But like if you look at Burke Reicher's latest press run for lucky hmm That dude is whether it's him or his team or some combination of it They are so plugged in on everything if you look at like the the shows he did and the places he appeared on it's all Doing the Jennifer Hudson hype. Yeah hype hype tunnel thing he went on that show

Brody what are those guys the basketball guys you know talk about Brody I think his name he does the whiteboard like they're like on the come-up next they're like a great I think they're with underdog like a great new basketball podcast like he and they're always like internet people yeah he's got a great eye for all that shit yeah and how to stay relevant and yes the ball the guys who are next and you want their audience and like you stay relevant that way in a major way and he's not like above anything or like those are smart moves by him you know yeah and again me saying I'm old school and getting some opportunities now like I'm still gonna have to make adjustments

too because again these young guys are coming up And they're more savvy with the tech shit And they know how to I mean you look at Trump going on podcasts and stuff and knowing that that was gonna be huge audience numbers and all that kind of I think Zuckerberg on Theo is even crazier than Trump. I've only seen like one or two clips of that. I have Just came out of only seen one clip too, but like Trump was campaigning to be president Yeah, and like these guys have mega numbers, it's a perfect fit for his audience and his, what's it called, voter base or whatever.

That I almost understand more than like Zuckerberg. You know, like that, I mean Theo is on a whole other level with some of these guys. And some of the... Yeah, but then I mean those clips are gonna go viral, you know? It's Mark Zuckerberg talking to Theo, you can't get more to different personalities

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that was out of character. And I was like, I always love, I always think whenever someone talks about out of character, a side by side I saw during the 2016 election, where it was like, it was Hillary doing her like, hot sauce in my bag swag thing. And then it was someone trying to get Bernie to do Whatever the dance was at the time or whatever and he was just a name or something. Yeah

And he just goes I don't do that stuff It was like just so he's like I'm an 80 year old fucking man. I don't do that kind of shit, right? Right now doing your little dance the most pure I've ever seen someone be who they are we're just like I don't do that stuff and he's not the president so maybe maybe a little something there Bernie speaking of old guys I've loved your very thorough coverage of all the bill Belichick speaking of interviews gonna ride this is getting yeah We are we're in crazy town right now. This yeah, it's a hundred percent weird However, I will say this I have read bill Belichick statement

And I have watched you know Not the one Jordan released bill has bill. I'll see I'm not even caught up on that. Yeah, I'm slacking I gotta get a video It was a Belichick email to and even even when we It was a Belichick email to and even even the way It's it's not talking about the book coverage or He is talking about book coverage, but again, I think it's a different one It's a similar it's a similar quote. Does he have a similar email list to Louie or he's like hi guys You're gonna see some stuff come out

No, that's I meant it's not the one she put this This one didn't, go ahead and finish. And everybody's like, Bill Shack just dropped a new girlfriend? Oh man, we gotta watch this. But it was like, he was basically saying, he's like, so I read that email and I watched a clip of Edelman and Gronk talking about it. Yes. Where Edelman was kinda like,

she's also his PR person. And yes, we have PR people and they do that. And he wasn't like and he wasn't like like he wasn't like he are and the girl I think that's where I saw the same clip too but you're ignoring a very big part of it that that's weird it is it's but it's not uncommon it look the the situation we watched 100% weird but so weird all that's the girlfriend is also the press lady yes that seems like a terrible idea that's what I seems like a bad idea, but the people do it all my client has always been a premature ejaculator

Like the Kardashians like Chris Carter Chris Kardashians their manager It's not that weird to have someone in your life be also be your manager Yeah, so like it's like a little like more like okay it's still I'm not trying to defend that video that video is fucking weird, but In that if she was acting in a PR capacity, because in Belichick's statement, he does he acknowledges what I found weird about it, where it was a very famous story. And why are you refusing to discuss it now? And he was like, we said that we want to talk about the book.

They kept talking about us is that this this one, he said, I agreed to speak with CBS Sunday morning to promote my new book, blah, blah, blah. Prior to this interview, I clearly communicated with my publicist at Simon & Schuster that any promotional interviews I participated would agree to focus solely on the contents of the book. Unfortunately, that expectation was not honored during the interview.

I was surprised when unrelated topics were introduced, and I repeatedly expressed to the reporter Tony Ducapoli that the, yeah. Sounding pretty guilty Bill. But that's kind of like we you know how this game goes it's like. Putting it on the reporter. The I mean I don't I guess I have honored when people have said to me before don't talk about this I either tell them if they're not big enough I tell them no we're gonna do this and if you walk away then fine. Well you guys

broke that with me I said no Pokemon go But that's the first thing we talked about. But if they are big enough, I will usually honor it. But you also got to know that there are times I honor it, and then I try to wiggle it into the conversation. This is a little more blunt, just like, hey, what the fuck's going on here? But I also think it's much harder to say, hey, this is off limits when you walk in the door with just her,

and she's sitting right there, and she's part of it all. It's like, like well now you shouldn't have done all this shit if you didn't want it to be you know included after reading Belichick statement and Hearing Edelman and Gronk. I was like okay. I see how it can be edited weird It is weird for sure the viewing experience was weird. I see how it could have been You're viewing this through Patriots glasses. This shit is crazy. This is good. This is the fire I wanted to start. This is not, I guess UNC released a statement as well.

Then the KFC fans are going to be like, is there tension between Fiske and Kevin? What's going on with those guys? If Belichick or Brady come up, there's going to be tension. You know what's funny? I thought when I first viewed it I was thinking of it as like an old man taking, not taking advantage of, but like it's weird that he's old and she's young. Yes. And then, but the elder abuse thing seems to be the angle the internet took of like he's the one. Now he's the victim. Yeah. That's the twist in the story. That I think, I think that clip, the clip I've seen, which is the only one Dave tweeted,

it's like, I can see how everything piled up to be what it's believed to be. And it might be, but it's also like, Belichick looks disheveled and lost, which is, and, and, and disinterested, which is what he always looks. So that in and of itself is okay. The girlfriend's there, in and of itself it's fine. Her acting is a PR person. Again, combining all three, yeah, if you wanna take, I'm not like, you're nuts. But I can see how it all individually is just. I love that she stormed out

and she thought Bill was gonna go with her. Yeah, yeah. And he just didn't. Then you gotta walk back in and be like, okay, let's resume, I guess. But even the story, I'm talking about North Carolina and all that, she'll be back.

And then, you know, if you wanna jump in, and first of all, the whole denying to talk about where you met, when the story is on TMZ. Right. I went back to double check. I was like, was that something we learned on the side? Like, no, that was on the internet.

They met on the plane. He signed the book while she was doing homework. That's all out there. Oh, that's what it was? Yeah. They were sitting next to each other. This was in 2000. While she's doing what?

She was doing homework. Already not a good sign. I get that. So she's 24 now. This was in 2020. Yeah, the origin stories. She was a bit teetering. But like, and I can understand where if you're like

We don't want people to know you were an old man helping me with my homework But a it's already out there and B then come up with a different fucking story Don't just say you can't well that can't talk about this. That's my thing with the Belichick statement is he Acknowledges the story like when they when they refuse to talk about it. I was like, oh That story's made up and they don't want to rehash it He said he's like the story is very famous We met on a flight to Tampa in 2001 blah blah blah and so he's like, she got a B-minus. It's right here You can see this is the test

Don't you think then I'd be like you're fucking fired as my PR person because you created this whole shitstorm But she didn't yeah, yeah PR person ever sucked your dick got your fucking job back yeah but she like like she the edit like again so to reference the video when she's like standing there and like that looked weird but that was like a half a second I could have been from anything it looks like she's kind of lingering yeah and they couple it with him saying Jordan was a part of our whole interview the whole time. She could have been talking over two seconds. They know how to spin it. I see how it could be. But again these are all things if you

are the PR person you have to know that. Yeah but like the PR person usually says hey we're not talking about it. We've had him say it. We don't include that clip in the interview. We just listen to him and don't. That's why you can't have your PR person sucking your dick. And be 50 years younger than you. Well that's the thing I know she is old enough and it is all consensual whatever but I was thinking about today a Bill Belichick to catch a predator would be like a legendary. Coach. The Navy sweatshirt looks really bad but it's also it's nothing it's not out of the ordinary for Belichick. The hole and the tattered sweatshirt looks really bad, but it's also, it's nothing, it's not out of the ordinary for Belichick.

The hole and the tattered sweatshirt is completely on brand. I'm sure they said, do that to be better. With this, it looks weirder. I think, also her post didn't make any sense to me. Which one? She posted with, look what you made me do playing, and the email was Bill Belichick being like, first of all it was from like a couple weeks ago. So I don't even know if it's referring

to this CBS News thing, because I hadn't heard yet. And he was just like, I know what sells books, but we should stick to like football. And then she posted that being like, look what you made me do. And I was like, this doesn't mean anything. She's a psycho. She is a psycho dog.

Like, we are, I think this is the tip of the iceberg. I think this is going to get correct and also like at the by now You've got to make a statement do an interview clarify clear the air something. Yeah, cuz it is spiraled out of fucking control It's like the number one story of like gossip right now if you came out and you were like, whatever her story is I Studied PR I I wanted to do PR. I just happen to fall in love with him and like here's what's going on Here's why I've been so hands-on. I don't even know what you could say where I'd be like, oh, okay Cuz I think it's all bad shit crazy, but you gotta say something at this point Yeah, now it's now people are just like you're an escort you're you met on a website

You're this that like it's but this is making it worse I also think there's a point where you're just like they can think what they want. Yeah, I don't really give a shit You know, I think she need when this stuff keeps happening you need to show us three other unknown 70 year old dudes that you've banged you know that way we know that was just love that you just going for the PR move because it's Bill Belcher show me a Gary works in Pennsylvania or something what do you mean her last boyfriend for Belichick. You gotta show me a Gary that just works in Pennsylvania or something. No, he exists.

What do you mean? Her last boyfriend before Belichick is an old guy, and we know who he is. There you go. All right. So I need two more. Two more guys. Yeah, and he knows them.

Oh, that's hilarious. She's mad. I think he's in his 50s. That guy right there? Yeah. Oh, man. Look. That guy right there. Yeah Look at this lady Not though does not

You know dispel the rumors that this is kind of her scene if you I mean he just he looks like another office of coordinator He looks like a football guy I think the only thing that I find to be really weird because we're also acting like old guys and young girls is like some New thing. It's like this is how of course it's always gonna be a story But when when she's like on the sidelines, it's getting weird What if she becomes bigger than the team then? Yeah people are gonna and that's what they start doing fucking Travis hunters girlfriend Remember all that bullshit. Yeah, she's becoming bigger than like she looking back on that now She's yelling at him and it's like this is a two-way Heisman trophy winner Yeah, you can be replaced right right with with these the old guy young guy relationships

I honestly fear that more than I fear cancer like I like cuz like sitting here right now. I'm 36 years old Yeah, I have fucking zero interest in a 24 year old But like give is it- Yeah, give that 20 years pal. Is there something that happens when you hit like 60 where you're just like, The switch will flip. I do love when people-

What if I become like an old fucking creep? I do like the common phrases, what are their conversations even about? And I understand that, but I also- They're going over the offense, they're going over the, right? Yeah, I mean, like, does Bill Belichick want to talk... What is his conversation with anybody?

Yeah, he's a pretty weird guy already. Maybe you're at a point where you're like, I just want to fuck this young girl. I don't want to talk to anyone. I've been talking for 75 years. I'm done, dude. Yeah. She does also look particularly evil. It's the perfect store, man.

She looks like she is a, you know, a siren who is here at Jezebel to steal your soul. I do also wonder if they picked, when they picked UNC, it kind of was so weird, right? And I wonder if they're like, I don't know, let's just go somewhere where we can just take over this program and do whatever we want. I don't know. It's great PR for the, I guess.

Well, UNC put out a statement saying, we sense this might be trouble and I wonder if this was like Alabama if they'd be like we're shutting this shit down real fucking quick but you're the Tar Heels football program so you're like and they haven't played a game yet too so there's no like like if Saban started doing that he's already established however many titles he won you know yeah like what is it door's blown off like what happens then or vice versa if he wins is like nobody cares nobody cares nobody fucking cares The it is kind of like it's been a nice. I

Don't know I guess moment a revelation for me We're like we went you know 2015 if you talk to me like Bill Belichick and Tom Brady are the goats we can like they'll be the greatest of all time forever No, we'll ever have a word to say about them that like is even remotely demeaning yeah and he just realized like yeah your heroes kind of become a laughingstock too. Well if they just keep going too long. He could just be living in the shadows. He disappeared yeah totally. And just be chilling. Not that would be a lesson. Dude you got a 15 year old girlfriend just not being the public eye. That is the lesson right there, man. There is no reason to continue to be in the spotlight from

like 70 to 90. It's because he keeps wanting to be in the spotlight, dude, so that you're getting what you asked for a little bit. Louis had, again, to reference Louis, had a great quote about that. The mountain top's the place you visit. You don't build a house up there. Yeah.

You don't step in too long. You go up, and you start coming back down. Bill Burr had another one. You can live too long. You can, you know, if you die when you're at the top, then you're gonna go to the legends. It's like the blockjack table. It's like cash out.

You almost wanna run out of money before you can lose it all. Yeah, but then it's like, well, how do I get here? Hot streak. You know? Check out this UNC table over here. There's a lot of college coeds sitting at that one. Let me see if it's a hot table.

You know, this all actually worked out well for the Patriots, or Patriots fans, I guess. Because I think, from a sports fan point of view, the Kraft talk was like way more of a bombshell. When they were kind of like, you know, you didn't reference him, you didn't thank him, and he was like, yeah, don't give a fuck. And they were like, you know, you were fired. And he was like, no, it was mutual. And Yeah, they were like he you know, you were fired and he was like No, it was mutual and they were like well Bob Kraft said you were fired and he was like And that to me would have been like the sports talk and you were far so he's like let me introduce to my girl Myself real quick my press person she'll establish who got fired and who didn't but like it's if you follow the Patriots

I guess I didn't know it was considered a mutual decision, like he was fired. But he was like, it was a mutual parting of ways. And the interviewer was like, hmmm, and he was like, no it was mutual. And they were like, Bob Kratz just said you were fired. And he goes, well I don't know what to tell you. Oh, the guy who got jacked off in Miami for $80 just wanted to fire me? Let's talk about that for a second.

Because they're in a creepy style with young people. Mine's not a human traffic, you know, whatever. But even, like, now that we're talking about it more, like, even that question is like, you're trying, because people get fired or change jobs and you call it a mutual decision all the time. You don't fucking pry. You're not like, well, he said fired. You're like, yeah, yeah, we split up. You know no one's asking fucking They just want a story at that right?

Also, why I mean I guess you're selling a book does the answer I said why would you even do this you're selling your Book, but like how many more books I? Don't maybe you get a lot more books. Maybe it's all worth it, but to me. It's like this was not worth Is like yeah, you're selling your book they're selling stories, so like they're gonna ask for This bitch was good at her job Sit down with Dave Portnoy. You'll sell a billion fuck. Yeah Any other he could come on here Fiddleberg you want to offensive coordinate for one day?

We're gonna be the same city as bird Come call some plays That'd be sick. What is the book? What is it about? It's about football and only football only football. It's about It's the same logo as only fans, but it's only football It's like life lessons from a life in football or something like that Yeah, you should go on yeah Schultz It's going to be of on the art of winning lessons from my life in football And it's like so how'd you fuck your 24 year old?

That's not chill chapter six. Let's slow down Yeah, I hate that she spells her name with that Oh to it's so annoying You're even things like this like even just looking at these headlines like if that if the word fiery wasn't in that descriptive headline I don't think that email was fired The email is not What they like think it is? I don't know to me that if you read that whole thing He's just like there's a portion of the book where he says like how he fucked up I don't know what he's referring to but the quote is like I fucked up and it's like I understand people are gonna latch

On to that, but let's make sure that we talk about all the lessons. I don't know what he's referring to, but the quote is like, I fucked up. And he's like, I understand people are gonna latch on to that, but let's make sure that we talk about all the lessons I learned and all the football. That's it. I don't know. That's what I mean. To be like, what you made me do. And like this thing where she was like, statement incoming.

There has to have been a conversation with like, what should we, yeah, to your point, what story should we tell people about how we met? And Belichick was probably just like, I doubt it's gonna come up. Well that was the other thing is like, I was talking about this on the rundown with Dave, he was blindsided by the fact that people saw

those yoga pictures on the beach. Yeah, those were crazy too. That kind of felt like flexing a little bit. And now you're touching hands and feet. This is a little much. He was kind of like, how did you see those things? And now you don't want and feet and this is a little much. He was kind of like, how did you do this? And now you don't want us to ask you about this?

Yeah. I think he's just in over his head, man. I can't believe that they fucked too. He's also just like, he doesn't know what the fuck is going on. He is unplugged, man. I used to like hate when he was like, I'm not on InstaFace. And it's like, come on, you know what Facebook is, you know what Instagram is. Like, I don't think he does.

I really don't think he does. Yeah. I really don't think he does. And if he does, he does not get that, like, millions upon millions are seeing this. Yeah. It's like, I was surprised. She has like 90,000 followers. I thought by now she would have like exploded. Yeah. So maybe he sees that, doesn't, or I don't know, but it's like, bro, this is, this is big. This is a big deal. Like, I don't think he gets it. He's probably just like, I don't know. He's been so locked in on one thing. Yeah, forever. But it is like also like it's a big deal to us

Right, like like if it like does it affect Bill Belichick what we think about his relationship probably not. I don't think so So what does he care? No, but that's right The only thing I think that where it gets too weird is her being like involved in the program Yeah, see cuz that's where like if I was the ad or some shit. I'd be like What the fuck is your yeah wait so does she do something with the team or is she apparently it was wasn't there an email? It's like Jordan must be CC on everything. She like the fluffer for the Their deaf is I am not trying to defend the worship. It's a weird relationship. It's not a good relationship I do think that clip if I'm believing what they're saying if there's if they're saying like yeah

He's got those pats got the fact the fact that he said that the story again if the fact cuz I thought they were just Refusing to say that the fact he's like we all know we met on a flight to Tampa blah blah blah I was like oh, okay He just didn't want to talk about it But I also think that the flip side like them not airing her storm out is like they almost did him a solid because that could Have been in way worse. Yeah. Yeah if they aired they they said like it was considerably worse than what we aired It's like pretty fucking crazy. Yeah They were definitely poking a little bit, but that's their job to you know, it's funny that it was CBS Sunday news

We did I hate the fucking TMZ format in general where you just like walk up to you know Whoever walking into the airport they got sunglasses on clearly don't want to be bothered. The most reason when I saw a Bieber was like because Bieber's just got it so bad and he always pushes back on him and he was like like can you why don't you just be like a human being and they were like... Justin have you said the n-word again on camera? The TMZ person... Dude I have Lyme disease. Can you leave me alone please? The TMZ person was like, I am being civil. This is polite. It's not.

But it's not though. What you're inherently doing is not- As out of touch as Bill Belichick is, they are on the other end where they're too much. It's too social media. It's too in your face, get the sound bite, and they think it's normal. I'm not yelling, but you're walking up on a stranger with a camera That's not normal right and then they go back to their Death Star with Palpatine with a quick trip Jam the camera up Pete Davidson's ass that was really smart. You've got really angry when you did that

I like here's like 200 bucks or whatever you know I hate that shit man like when Jonah Hill got in trouble cuz he I won't say what he said on the thing But he dropped the slurred the gay slur. He will do that And a reporter next to you know, he's on like the view Who I am no that is who you are A fucking asshole and he was being what you called him. Yeah, he was being what you called Fuck that guy, man. Which by the way, and Louis already took care of this, but yeah, it's not the, you don't use it for gay people.

You use it for guys being who they're being right there. Yeah. Amen. Alright man, I gotta get rolling. So we got the Netflix, it's the Netflix... It's called Introducing. It'll come out on their YouTube channel. I don't know when exactly it'll drop. We tape a week from tomorrow, I think. Oh, fuck it.

In Los Angeles. It's gonna be sick. It'll be at the Avalon. It's gonna be very cool. Dope, man. Great show. I feel like things are going. I think you're going, man. Thanks, man. They're going the right way. I appreciate it. Yeah, as long as you guys keep having me on here. The door is always open, man.

Look at you, Keep riding. Yeah. No I mean I really like we kind of got lucky in the sense of like we were a comedy podcast when things really started to boom. Yeah. And there was this like crop that you know we're all making like a hundred million and we've always kind of been thinking like who's the next wave and I think you're one of those guys. Thanks man I really appreciate that. Love you guys love the son of a boy that guys Barstool family. Thank you folks for allowing me into the universe. Check them out man, follow em, be ready for that next special Can't thank you guys enough, be at fights at Burt in November Burt also had the best way where he was like dude no one's coming for you

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