KFC Radio - The Double Cuncel, To Shave or Not To Shave, and Jerry Ferrara

Episode Date: September 5, 2019

Mets fans hit rock bottom and KFC is their voice. The NHL is the absolute worst at marketing it's sport. When did we make women shave thier armpits? Flume eats ass just like everybody else. Jerry Ferrara talks about the 15th anniversary of Entourage, the final season of Power, and the limited edition Fukijamas he showed of on @KicksInTheOffice. Voicemails include: Sign Language, Steal Something from One Night Stand, and Call Yourself An UberYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/kfcr

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That's Hooters money ball.com. And that's if like you have a reason to live and you think you're even going to make it to February because I don't. I don't have a reason to live. I came in this morning and Kevin and I talked about some stuff. We had a meeting this morning, and we discussed what we were going to discuss at the meeting. We have an interview coming up with Gary Owen. We discussed that a little bit. This was like a couple who's not talking about the elephant in the room.

And it was probably 20 minutes of talking, and then there was a lull of silence, and he said, you see the Mets last night? I said, I was going to let you bring it up. I wasn't going to. It really was like. I wasn't going to come in. I was going to come in hot and be like, hey, how about those Mets last night? I was going to. Hey, Tommy Spokes, did you see that game?

I mean, I'm going to rip your fucking head off, Tommy. I'm going to fucking rip your head off, and I'm going to feed it to Alex and Sophia, you little fucking weasel. I can't even begin to describe the 12 hours i had i was i was sending you text i was texting you about other things and then i went to check twitter and i immediately just wrote those texts i was like oh he's not responding and i saw those and i was like i'm not responding yeah yeah those will that's a tomorrow conversation that was the same like i knew i knew i was right away i was like yep i get that those aren't coming back tonight dude could you imagine if we were continuing in between innings last night we tried this like a new live stream where

during the commercial breaks me and clem were on periscope so during the game you listen to the broadcast and watch the game and then during the commercial break you hear our reaction and we did like five innings and it was like his kids were going crazy and clem was busy you go off while the game's on or you stay on all the time you just put up like a logo so it's it's the live stream stays on and he presses mute so you can't hear us and it just says like we'll be right back i see okay i like that but it's basically a periscope now has the ability to do two people that's really all that happened we had this idea legitimately 10 years ago and now the technology caught up that we can do it. Look at you, James Cameron. So we finally do it. And I mean, had we had we been like doing a live stream up until the end of the game?

I mean, it's it's a huge regret. I mean, that's what you know what? That's amazing content right there. I thought that and I was going to go live to the three of us. I would have gone live. There was only one live stream worth watching. Yeah, that's true. Nobody was topping Frank Fleming.

Frank Fleming. I actually have to thank Frank because the only thing that kept me from my own personal meltdown and just shocking, deep depression was watching Frank's meltdown. I'll be straight up. I couldn't watch it.

There are just some things I can't watch in this world. It's scary. It's like a torture video I saw even the clip you tweeted and it was like gibberish and ripping and drooling and crying I don't know if it was my phone or the clip you tweeted but it was very choppy

so I couldn't even really see what was happening I could hear screams and I was like someone's getting murdered. It sounds like a murder victim. It was tough to see. At one point, he was literally crying, ripped his shirt, ate his shirt. And the funniest thing, it was like it settled in that they lost. He just reaches off screen, grabs himself a Coke.

Pounds of Coke? Yes. Nick made an unbelievable mashup of the Popeye music, like he was drinking spinach. It was like Frank needed to hulk up for his rant. And then in the middle of his rant. Some people drown their sorrows in alcohol. Frank drowns them in sugar and... Ringdings!

He tweeted in the middle... I didn't know it was going to be fats, but yes, in fats. In the middle of his meltdown, he just tweeted, I love ringdings. It was like he was having a catastrophic mental break, but also was like, I love ringdings. Well, put the video in. Can we put the clips of Frank in for gold? If you're watching on Barstool Gold, KFC Radio, barstoolgold.com slash KFC, sign up. It's honestly, watching Frank is worth the entire gold subscription alone.

Look at Mickey! Look at Mickey. Look at Mickey. Mickey's actually standing under. I'm going to praise you. Like I should. No. Look at Mickey Calloway. Look at Mickey Calloway.

Mickey Calloway is smiling. Fucking Mickey Calloway. Fucking Mickey Calloway. Fucking Mickey Calloway. But that's the only thing that kept me... I said it was the worst loss since Tom Glavin. Like, not the World Series games, because those were bad, but...

And Mickey Calloway doing his best Tom Glavin impression after the game, just... I mean, Edwin Diaz comes in, gives up a two... Ed Luz Diaz. Ed Luz, that's his name, gives up a two-run double and a three-run home run. And the manager says he had electric stuff that night. Did he really? I mean, that's why Frank was,

Electric! Electric! What was electric? What was electric about it? Electric! Electric stuff? I mean, like, yeah. I think I heard you say. He hit 100 on the gun, like, fine, but he had five runs. I thought he said he was electric. Just like, and granted he.

Edwin Diaz said, I executed my pitches. You got to just tip your cap to them. Oh. Bro, if that's you executing pitches, you're not good. You got to get the fuck out of the league. I mean, this very much reminds me of the. Chicken and beer. Yeah, 2012, I think, Sox.

Where it was Adrian Gonzalez saying, well, that was just God's plan. I mean, that caused countless sleepless nights for me. Just furious. I've been mad at God for a lot of things in my life. Genocides and awful hurricanes

and all kinds of things. I'm like, why didn't you stop this, God? And I forgot all about all of that. It was just chicken and beer at songs. God, why. Why didn't you stop this, God? And I forgot all about all of that. It was just chicken and beer at Suns. God, why did you want Adrian Gonzalez to ground out there? Why did you want that? God, why was that your plan, God? God's plan.

What purpose did that serve anybody? You asshole. You motherfucker, God. And you know what? And you know what drives me fucking crazy what? Drives me fucking crazy. First of all, everyone who was like, you can get him on the team.

Look, they're so good. Okay? Yeah. Second of all, when people are like, they're so fucking hypocritical with the Mets because when something terrible happens, they're like,

oh, like, LOL Mets. But then when I get upset, they're like, come on, it's not that bad every other team loses and then they say to me what what are you so upset for what you're not used to this by now this has never happened the mets have never actually lost like this the mets have never blown a six run lead in the ninth inning in their entire dreadful

woeful existence so no i haven't experienced this yet it's the first time it's ever fucking happened 10-4 in the fucking ninth and you can't get three goddamn outs with anybody i mickey calloway stinks and everything was mismanaged but like put me you and him out there we're gonna run to run into three outs. You're going to get a pop-up, a ground out, and a strikeout. It happens like 99% of the time. You've seen countless position players get up there and just throw 60 down the dish.

It's hard to hit a fucking sweet spot ball. It really is. Unless you've got electric stuff and you're hitting your spots, and then you got it. I haven't had my face go numb in a long time. I got that feeling last night. Where my extremities go tingly and my face goes numb. Oh, God.

Did that really happen? Yeah. That's what happens to me when I truly have my meltdowns. Like Daniel Murphy's error in the World Series. I just... Like, no feeling. It's like I'm high almost. Like a bad high.

It is so goddamn depressing. But you know what? Like, I fucking told you so, mom. Fuck you, mom. Everybody was giving me shit. No, this team's going for it. This team went for it with this fucking bullpen? This is the team that didn't touch this bullpen

and then gives up seven runs in the ninth? But see, this is what the console was supposed to protect themselves from. I know! The console was supposed to protect. Last night, I should have been laughing with my fucking feet up. I should have been saying, I told you so. I should have been like, oh, I wasn't even watching. Because I knew in my heart this was going to happen.

I've been saying it for months on We Gotta Believe. This is all to set up for their greatest masterpiece of pain. And that was it. That was their masterpiece of pain. That was one of their greatest brushstrokes in their long, stupid fucking history. I knew it. I should have stuck to my fucking guns. And it's the last time I ever let anybody, the players, the team, or the fans, or the media, or anybody ever talk me out of a fucking console.

Should have just stuck by my guns because they didn't fucking fix the bullpen, which is the worst thing. There is no – let me ask you this to open it up to just non – to more than just Mets fans here. What is the worst feeling in sports as a fan? I think it's when you are watching a shitty bullpen and you just can't get out of an inning like hit after hit walk after walk wild pitches crazy errors and you're just like what if this inning never ends what if we're here forever that that the only reason that game stopped is because it was the bottom of the ninth if that was the top of the ninth they're playing Queens, they'd still be playing right now.

I think that's a good one. I think it's a defense that can't get up the field on third down. I mean, that's the football equivalent. I see it all the time against the Patriots. It's just like third and 10, third and 10. And I wasn't even thinking, because those ones don't make me sad, but I was thinking like the mid-aughts when it was Brady didn't have great defenses

and it was Peyton. And it was like times where you're like, you got to go forward on fourth and two. Right, because if you're giving the ball back, it's over. He's going to come down to the score. Having a defense that you just know is going to give up yards and points is – Specifically when you're getting – It's the same thing. It's like you just know that your guy can't stop their offense right and that's when you i think uh to take that a step

further or or i guess in a different way in football when you have a bad offensive line like a wayne hunter when you just have a whole eric flowers for the giants a couple years ago and it's just like every single snap your quarterback's gonna be on the ground yeah and it's just gonna happen every time or you can't stop the run specifically it's one thing with brady's like picking you apart if they're just running the ball down your throat and it's just like picking up five at a clip and it's just like, here we fucking go all night long. Bro.

But at least in football, there's a clock. Eventually, you get off the field for one reason or another. Like in baseball, when the Mets put out Paul Seawald and then they're like, all right, well, let's go to Luis Avalon. Well, let's go to our closer. Never would have seen the light of day if the Mets hadn't added so many runs. I know. The ultimate cruelty.

And that's your favorite thing too, right? Insurance runs. They even took insurance runs away from you. They took away my favorite thing. It's better than six. And they took away my favorite thing. Wow. I hadn't even thought about it like that. And fuck Trey Turner. It's better than six. And they took away my favorite thing. Wow. I hadn't even thought about it like that.

And fuck Trey Turner. It's all Trey Turner's fault. The butterfly effect on this is crazy. Honestly, think about it. Trey Turner gets a tailor-made ground ball. And rather than turning two, he forgets there's only one out. He throws the ball to first base. Now there's two outs in the inning.

Floodgates. The Mets end up putting up 10. What happens? They end up taking Lugo out because of that. That leads to the complete bullpen meltdown. That leads to them losing the game. That leads to them not making the playoffs. That game could potentially

have led to Frank the Tank's eventual death. We're looking at Trey Turner having a mental error leading to a death. I'll tell you, man, the butterfly effect in sports is crazy. Crazy. But now I've double-counselled the first ever. I said you couldn't do that.

I also didn't think you could give up seven runs in the ninth. So we are in new uncharted territory here. Congratulations to 2019 Mets. They are inventing new ways to lose, and they are inventing new consoles. This is the first ever double-counsel, and I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. I'm fucking done. I'm not watching baseball. Will you watch another game this year? I'm not watching baseball.

They're on YouTube today. I'm not watching a fucking baseball game on YouTube broadcast by Outlider. Fuck out of here. Major League Baseball. How stupid are they? I'm done. I'm done. What's the podcast going to be like? It's going to be me saying

what happened in the game, guys. Tell me. Tell me what happened. I'm done. In between innings, go find somebody else. I mean, you know what? No, now I... It took me ten years to get here. Now I flipped the switch. You know, Yankee hate time. Choo-choo! All aboard! We're going to need a lot of hate to keep those motherfuckers.

This is like Sogo. I mean, the Yankees are winning the World Series now. Again, the butterfly effect. You think about all these things. Trey Turner did it. Think of the big story. Trey Turner clinched it for the Yankees. Trey Turner just won the World Series for the Yankees.

It's going to be so bad with Tommy and Hubs and how big Barstool is now watching a Yankees World Series. It's not going to be so bad with Tommy and Hubs and how big Barstool is now watching a Yankees World Series. It's not going to be great. I mean, luckily, I'll be there with you on that one. That's going to be brutal. I mean, the Astros with their pitching is incredible. The Yankees with their hitting is just a joke.

What is Gary Sanchez doing? Has that motherfucker hit 100 home runs in the last week? Yeah, it's crazy. I swear to God, every other Hub tweet is just me laughing about Gary Sanchez. He went from fat slob to the greatest hitting catcher of all time. Which, by the way, that's like a cold takes thing. I stand by that laugh. It was wrong in the moment, too.

It was wrong then, it's wrong now, but I stand by it. It was right in the moment. And then that night, I think he went deep off price twice but at that time the evidence supported my reaction at that time i think he was hitting second i think he was hitting like 119 or something like that and then he just went and then he won 79 since then he's legitimately hit like 100 home runs since that day it's it's crazy and then i mean everyone mike ford is now the new guy where it's like we got to find a spot 100 home runs since that day. It's crazy. And then, I mean, everyone. Mike Ford is now the new guy where it's like, we've got to find a spot for him.

I mean, it's to the point where they, like, legitimately should not get rid of Giancarlo Stanton. Like, just get rid of him. It's like, usually that's stupid, but it's like, what? I don't think you can find anyone to take him. Right. Yeah, it's crazy. He's one of the best bats when he's when he's in and performing like ever but you know it's like cameron maven

comes along and i i used to laugh about like guys it's just cameron maven well he's still performing mike fucking the sock man or whatever they fucking call him he's good luke uh luke goomba is fucking incredible like every single player labor torres we'll get i I mean, Andrew Hart is dead, but he's, he's like a hall of famer. Just sitting there waiting to come back. Clint Frazier. It was like the best prospect in baseball. They're like,

get out of here. You loser. It's nuts. Every fucking bat. Well, we've got a live show coming up September 18th. Sure. Come to that.

Will I be alive? I don't know. Maybe, maybe final, but it'll just be the Feidelberg show. Maybe. Oh, oh, you know what we'll do? Stuff me and prop me up like a Puerto Rican gangster. Put me on stage.

Put me on stage with my fucking MVMT glasses, and I'll just be sitting there like this. Brought to you by MVMT. Imagine that. Just propped up dead on stage. That's great marketing. Be like, look. Glass is so good, they give a sight to the dead.

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We do have a live show. Last live show, I rocked those spectacles. Pass them on over to me. If you are watching on gold, you can see me modeling right now. These just make you feel smart. Yeah, they make me look like a fat ginger Harry Potter. Well, here's the thing. You look like a fat ginger Harry Potter.

Yeah. So it's not the glasses. It's the fat ginger part. That's the problem. It makes you look like a big Harry Potter. It squeezes you. That particular style squeezes my head in. It doesn't look great on me.

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this, you are literally burning your eyes out of your head. Like I've been staring at the Mets and staring at that screen and watching that bullpen. My eyes are actually deteriorating deteriorating so now let's say hypothetically if i ever were to watch another baseball game still up for debate i'll be watching with these on so that while i murder my brain and my emotions and my physical well-being my eyeballs will still maintain 2020 vision mvmt.com slash kfc uh from one stupid fucking sport to another some from one from one thing you love that just can't treat you right to another it's not even god if that's not that's not my

life in a nutshell it's not even sports it is sports it's sports focus but this morning the nhl posted uh an advertisement let me see exactly what it was it was an advertisement but i want to see it was for nhl tv and it is just it's i love this thing so much it says don't let your don't let life get in the way of hockey sign up today nhl.com slash nhl.tv slash subscribe i love hockey i want hockey to be so popular and they just can't get out of their own way this advertisement says no soap operas just hockey it's got a guy and a girl kissing like that's the worst fucking thing in the world and then uh austin matthews skating next to it no no soap operas, just hockey. The advertisement should just say, do you know that thing that everyone loves

about all the popular sports? Do you know that thing that SportsCenter almost exclusively covers nowadays? Do you know that thing that everyone is tweeting about all the time, the drama surrounding sports? Well, we don't do that here. Get out of here, you little pussy. like if you like drama if you like emotion then we're not the sport for you we're we're gladiators on ice dude just the thing that makes it so frustrating is first of all that the

people like the hockey fans who like that who are like will beat their chest be like that's right we don't do that shit you do you just don't exploit it you don't market it well there you don't you don't you don't benefit from it it's gonna happen there's a there's a little podcast called spit and chiclets if you listen to that you will see that there is constant drama in hockey there's unbelievable stories to be told in the sport of hockey it's fascinating the camaraderie everything is so in the sport of hockey. It's fascinating. The camaraderie, everything is so in the camaraderie. The animosity, everything. The language, the culture. There's so much to be marketed. Honestly, maybe more than any other sport, to be honest.

Right. Because it's so bizarre. And a hockey guy is, you can be like a, a basketball player can kind of come from any walk of life. And football has its own thing. Hockey players are like, what is going on in that pen there? I don't know filled with like dirt the drama on this podcast this pen that's broken but like when i hear when

i listen to those guys talk and i realize they have their own language and style and culture and lifestyle you know it's like that is actually more interesting than almost any other sport in a way and they don't do anything with it every sport should just look at what the nba does and do yeah social media do what they do gambling do what they do in-game entertainment uh broadcast entertainment internet entertainment all of it jersey sales jersey designs the the money the all of it do everything everything the NBA does. I'm biased. You dumb fucks. But I think hockey guys are like,

I think anytime a hockey guy is himself, people are like, God, he's cool. I'd hang out with him. I'd get a beer with him. There's OG Barstow athletes. He's funny. I'd like to hear more from him. There are your boring ones. Don't get me wrong.

Bershaw, who I love, is pretty. You know those guys? Those guys we need to work on if we're going to market hockey a little better. Don't get me wrong. Some of the balls on the player itself it's like mike trout some of it's on you not that interesting but you know the players it's some of the times it's it's he like i think marsh is one of the best things to happen in hockey i think he's out of the league now obviously on spitting chicklets but ryan whitney is i think

maybe the funniest guy i've ever met when it comes to being able to bust balls talk shit he must have been i mean he must have been a great locker room guy to get that fucking contract. But you know what I mean? Like that – his whole vibe is like – and there's a reason why obviously the podcast now is succeeding because that is the right guys who are exploiting that side of things. But there's more guys than just Ryan Whitney and more guys than just Biz. There's a lot more out there and they just, not only do they not do it,

they're like railing against it. Yeah. Like, no. Like, let me know when someone gets their teeth knocked out. That's it. That's all we're going

to talk about. It's like to rally, like I quote through that thing. One person replied, the only people who like the drama or like those things are the people

who buy Star Wars comics at the market. And like that tweet was so stupid. It was so perfect. I was so happy about that tweet. I don't even know what that means. drama or like those things are people who buy star wars star wars comics at the market and like that tweet was so stupid it was so perfect i was so happy about that i don't even know what that means i was like i don't know what this means and i know but i know it's dumb i know i hate it because it's so perfectly a guy who's like my sport's the best weird but you're a fucking idiot you're not funny you're a fucking loser you're not who they're trying to like try and market to someone outside of that everyone everyone who does the, please like my sport, we're tough, we're badasses,

hockey guy would play through that, all that shit. You're a fucking loser. Go after someone else. That person doesn't need to be marketed to. They're going to consume your sport already. And those are the people that when they do market to a new person, that person comes in, then they're going to turn around and say, no, you don't like hockey the way I like hockey.

I've been watching longer than you. Fuck you. It's so frustrating. The NHL is just so bad. They did it, what was it? I think last week, I think Friday night, they brought back the Kings throwback jerseys, right? And it's like the ones that Gretzky played in,

Luke Robitaille, like the Kings of Kings, right? And they dropped it at like Friday night at 11 o'clock. Like right now? Like this past Friday at like 11 p.m. They're like New Jersey's. It's a long weekend on a Friday night at 11 o'clock.

Off season. Who are you telling this news to? I mean like off season, you can't really just like come out with that. But like do it at a time when people are paying attention. Not even paying attention to you're not paying attention to you. They're just paying attention to what's happening in the world. It's Labor Day weekend. You should give up.

I mean, it's just not going to happen in hockey. It's soccer. It's soccer. I don't think it will happen. Soccer will happen. I think – I mean, soccer is – the games sell out. It's happening slowly, but it's happening. I don't think it will happen with hockey.

I don't think it will. Well, as long as Bettman's there, he's got to go. It's crazy where it's just like the NBA was a sport and the NFL is a sport that's trying to expand internationally, and we already have that. We're an international sport, not just between Canada, because that doesn't count, but overseas. It's a big sport.

The NBA and the NFL are trying to get the footholds that you already have to make it an international sport, an international hit. The fact that they can't convert Olympic viewers and Olympic hype back to the league is crazy to me. But it's true. I mean, I'll watch the Olympics and I'm into it, and then it's like, you want to watch this? Nope.

No. Nah. No, thank you. It's very, very unfortunate. The sport's broken. It's devastating. I don't know. It's a dumb sport. Ice and

shoes with knives on them. It's just stupid. It's a dumb game. Is it a ball? No. It's a puck. That's it. It's a puck. It's stupid. It's a stupid sport. What's a football? It's a ball. But it's a ball. It's a ball, though.

A puck. Who wants to play with a puck? It doesn't even bounce. Pucks are fun. Pucks are fun. Pucks are not fun. They just sit there. They don't bounce. They don't do anything.

Thank God for the ice. Otherwise, this would just be a ridiculous score. Let's do a little Am I the Asshole? Then we'll do some voicemails. Then we'll get into our interview with Jerry Ferrara. Our guy's back. It's the 15th anniversary of Entourage. It's the final season

of Power is out now. And we talked to him about his new baby boy and everything he expects from his son when it comes to sneakers and video games and sports fandom. Always a good conversation with our guy, Jerry. He also brought through one of the most iconic pairs of sneakers. So if you go over to Kix

in the office on the Instagram, we put out a feature video with him talking about the Fukujama Air Force Ones that Vince buys Turtle in that infamous episode of Entourage. So a lot of shit to come with Jerry and, of course, voicemails. But first, Am I the Asshole? It's brought to you by Raycon. If you have wires, you're poor. It's a fact. It's a fact of life. I was very taken aback the other day.

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straight out of ATI. Today's Am I the Asshole was, Am I the Asshole for refusing, this is a guy, for refusing to shave my asshole until my girlfriend shaves her armpits? That, my friends is a mexican standoff that i don't want to be a part of like who blinks first on that one i don't think you're the asshole

i think that's a i think that's a sound move why are you shaving your asshole anyway well i think uh you know it's 2019 bro i mean i get everybody's getting all up in everybody but like it's almost i picture this to be a a an italian gentleman i feel like if that's happening and like she should be grooming everything anyway it's like i don't understand how you get up in the stand the type of people who are going to be doing this and if you're worried about your boyfriend's butt you're probably like a you're saying what you probably think she's like a hot sexy normal modern chick yeah i don't even know hot sexy or anything just being like worried about your boyfriend's butt, you're probably like a, you're saying what? You probably think she's like a hot, sexy, normal, modern chick. Yeah, I don't even know hot, sexy or anything.

I'm just being like, normal. I'm going to say normal. I'm going to use that word. Because here's the thing. The only downside for the girlfriend is the obvious. It's like,

I'm going to go eat your butt and it's not going to be clean. Right? Right? So, if that's me and I'm the girlfriend and I want to have hairy armpits,

I'm going to be like, I'm just not eating your butt now. It's a lose-lose for you. Now you have a hairy-armed girlfriend and you're not getting your butt licked. That's a good point. You don't have any leverage there. Unless she has, like, she has to. Unless she's, like, overly compelled to do this sexual act. She goes to AA.

She has asshole addiction. Hi, my name is Joan. Hi, Joan. I just can't stop eating my boyfriend's ass no matter how much he doesn't groom it. I can't stop it. I don't think there's any... I don't think you win this battle. I think you're the asshole for thinking this was going to get her to shave her armpits.

Yeah, true. Okay, done. Two birds, one stone. I don't have to shave. I don't have to eat your ass anymore. Great. That. Okay. Done. Like two bars, one stone. I don't have to shave. I don't have to eat your ass anymore. Great. That is true. I didn't even think about that.

Girl, how bad, like if you're actually in a standoff for this, like how bad do you believe You're a bad negotiator. Yeah, I'm out. Okay. I'm going to give her a chance. Now, the flip side, I just, I don't get, you know, shaving is a nuisance. Shaving your armpits doesn't take about, I don't know, one to two seconds. Like, done. It's, one to two seconds. Done.

It's not like shaving your legs. It's not like shaving your cooch where you gotta worry about things. This is just like, isn't that bad? Like, unless you're making a point, isn't it just better to have? Even if you're making a point,

fucking relax. I mean, just stop. Relax. We're like a hundred years off from that. Like in a hundred years, it'll be like, can you believe that women used to shave their armpits? But right now, even if you're like a crazy feminist, shave your armpits.

It's like – so I'll stop wearing a shirt now. I'm just thinking like what would – what did men do when women didn't really shave their armpits? Like when was that popular? When did shaving your armpits become popular? I would guess, I don't know, in the 40s? I don't know. I don't know. When did a razor blade get invented?

I feel like that's got to be even earlier. I feel like, I just feel like you don't see, like, hairy armpit chicks, like, in even, like, historical photographs. Yeah, that's true. Like, even, like, the French paintings. Their arms are up, and it's like, they must have had pit hair then. I don't know. What are you, taking a straight blade

going to the barbershop? Fucking just... I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say shaving your armpits started in the 1800s. It says early 1900s.

Early 1900s. Was there a reason? The first safety razor was invented. So it wasn't a straight blade. I knew it wouldn't be a straight blade. That's very dangerous.

And some chick was just like, this is set the tone so what are the french guys guys have known since the fucking french renaissance that we didn't want hairy armpitted chicks guys were just photoshopping it out of their paintings i don't know the french they just knew though they were just like i want your mouth on my dick and i want the hair off your armpits french invented the blowjob 1915 g Gillette first started marketing it towards like women need to shave their armpits. That sucks. But even like I almost wish – like I don't like armpit – I think armpit hair is gross. But I think it's like almost like a stigma to shave it, like if I was a guy to shave it.

But if we had to do it, I'd be like, whatever, done. Now I don't have like weird hair on my crevices. Yeah, I've been – I don't have it and it's pretty nice. It's great. I'd rather not have it. So I guess for girls, some of them view it as this oppression, but I think I would want to. I think a lot of girls – I think most girls – yeah, there's a sexual element, but I think a lot of girls are like, I shave everything for hygiene, and I want it for myself because it's not gross and not weird, and it just feels better, and I feel cleaner and all that shit. There's hygiene with hair that if you don't take – you know what I mean? It's like lice and not weird and it just feels better and i feel cleaner and all that shit like there's you know there's hygiene with hair that if you don't take you know what i mean

it's like lice and all sorts of weird shit crabs it's just like in my opinion better to not have it and it's not like we're forcing you you should almost want to i i look if you want to do it do it it's your own fucking prerogative but i almost feel like but i'm gonna be gross yeah yeah for sure it's my prerogative to think you're ugly 100 but he like i feel like people would do it almost like to fight the patriarchy even if they don't want to do it. Where it's like, I just wouldn't fight the patriarchy. Just do what you want to do. Right.

What makes you happy? Go ahead and do it. Do that. Keep it. If you like carpet hair, fine. I don't like you. I mean, I might like you personally. I don't like your aesthetic.

But it's a very strange thing. There actually is pretty much a 100% overlapping Venn diagram for me, though. If you're a chick who wants armpit hair, I don't like you as a person. Well, no. At the moment, yes. Because like – Maybe eventually. Riley Reeds had it, and I like her.

Miley Cyrus had it. I like her. There are people I like that have had it. There's a couple Eilean exceptions to the rule, and that's it. I think we're batting like 990 here. I'm going to probably hate you because you're doing it for a reason. You're doing it to make a point. It's like, I don't care about your fucking armpits.

The question with the guy's asshole brings up a thing that's been bothering me a little bit recently. Oh, Jesus. Have you noticed in porns when guys – look, there's a rim job happening in a porn sure right and almost always now almost always have you noticed the guys get way too out of control with it like i think guys are like like all right i got a porn scene coming up we're gonna get a rim job so i gotta shave my asshole and then like they're bent over so much like oh boy i should probably clean up these legs too and then like and then it's a slippery slope it becomes hair like the hairlessness of a guy's leg about the hairlessness of a porn man getting a rim job his leg is just forever extending into pants it was it like it started

just the asshole and then that's kind of gross like around the groin line yeah and then like now i've seen it about mid-short. Like a short short, I've seen it that far down. Eventually, it's just going to be guys are going to get hairless. Yeah. It's going to be like – I can see it. Society is moving towards an androgynous state where we're all just one sex and we all just do all sorts of stuff to each other's holes. That's it.

I guess I've never really shaved my legs or something like that. But I guess when you're getting down that close, it's like painting a wall. And you're like, oh, there's another spot. We'll fix this. And the next thing you know, you've repainted the whole wall. The whole thing. And this is like, well, that's a long one. Well, okay, another one.

Yeah, if I did that, I got to do this. If I did that, I might as well do that. Next thing you know, you're in the shower like a chick. Like, yeah, yeah. That's what I think happens. I think they just get drunk on the power of being able to trim down leg hairs and it's just gone today it's a slippery slope for you asshole guy if now another question if your girlfriend demanded demanded it was part of her

personality that she had to have. You were in love with this girl. She was your one and only. Your everything. She said, I'm keeping hair on one. Your choice. My pussy. My asshole.

On my armpits. Now, this really comes down to, in my mind, do you care about you, yourself, and your relationship behind closed doors, or other people? And you know the answer. Yeah, and so you can't have her have armpit hair. Armpits out.

Armpit is the first out the door. See you later. No rose for you, armpits. Yeah, because other people are going to see it, and you can't be known as the guy who walks around with the fucking hairy armpit girl. Yeah, a lot of questions you've got to have answered. Is she a feminist asshole?

Is she just gross in general? It reflects poorly on you. We're out. Yeah. I can't have you reflecting poorly on me. I'm sorry. When you say pussy, what are we talking? One of those overgrown Jumanji situations?

Producer Cam. I think... I'm trying to think. I think you're just not allowed to touch it. To have anything. To have any touch. By the way, that becomes all one region at some point if we're just letting it overgrow.

Look, if it was like, oh yeah, nothing on the upper thighs, nothing below the clit, I mean, that's... That's grooming. That's grooming. So we're just so... Oh, man. I mean, that's... That's like, that's grooming. Now we're talking grooming. Oh, man. I... I think you can't touch it.

I think in that case, I am taking the pussy. Like, have the hair on your pussy. Because I'm a butt guy, and I want to be able to, like, look at your butt and think it's nice.

And if it's overgrown, it ruins the whole aesthetic of your butt. Yeah, we'll put a stop plug at, like, if she's doggy, it stops at the gooch. So you can't see it if it's a pussy hair. Oh, then I'm definitely taking, yes, pussy hair. I want a clean butt, clean armpits. Because first of all, again, 2019, a lot more is going on in the back, like just as much is going on in the back and the front these days. You can get

away with almost exclusively doing things from the, yeah, oh, then I'm just, then if I can't see anything, then I'm just having, like, No more going downtown, chow chow. That's fine. I'll eat your butt and we'll have sex doggy style forever. Done. Yeah, this is almost a win. I'll almost your butt and we'll have sex doggy style forever done this is almost a win I'll almost sign for this

I'll turn that pussy into our dead son's room we just don't go there anymore we don't touch it we don't touch it I DON'T TOUCH ANYTHING we don't touch we don't touch anything he said dead son's room that's the wing of the house we don't use anymore that's where little monkeys

used to live it's like Ray Finkel when everything's left just how he left it that was one of your darkest moments of all time i mean i i can't believe it came out that quickly like oh yeah it's like a dead son's room i almost think i almost think you came into this podcast i'm gonna make a dead son dead son's room reference it came it just came it was oh god yeah a little bit too much too much mind hunters for you bro I think that's where it came from I think it's where it must have came from it was immediate I immediately associated pussy with

a dead child it took a second I was like wait what what did you say I don't even get the right oh I get it now holy shit that was intense but yes yes. Much like that spot on. I ain't flipping you over. I won't touch it. I won't look at it. It's dead to me. Brendan is horrified. Speaking of eating butt, how about Flume eating his girlfriend's butt on stage?

Oh, that was something. What a move. I mean, listen, if you are like a big-time DJ, you're a burning man, and someone has a sign that says, does Flew Me Beneath Ass, you got to prove them. And it's funny because those – It's like lawyer stuff. Don't ask questions you want to know the answer to.

Seriously, don't you challenge me. And while – so these used to be a thing. Remember the Hunter Pence thing? Hunter Pence, like he wears pajamas to bed or whatever. It's progressed to the point that it's like well do you lick asshole or not because that's like you're a loser if you don't but shout out to his girl she's the real hero being like all right babe let's let's fucking prove let's show him let's prove it and the way the way he almost like he does it real quick and he kind of like

he's like looking like all right like, almost like this happens regularly. Like, gosh, she made me eat her ass in public again. Fine, babe, here you go. What a fucking move, though. And really, I said in my blog, the only question I need to know about you is to know your character. Do you even or not? Because I think you're a real go-getter.

I think you're a little bit imaginative. I think you take risks. I think you're adventurous. I think you're a real go-getter. I think you're a little bit imaginative. I think you take risks. I think you're adventurous. I think you're generous. You eat ass. And if you don't... I learn a lot about you. From now on, when I interview people,

I'm going to ask them one question. Throw out your fucking resume. Throw out your cover letter. I don't care about your GPA. I don't care about your experience. Do you eat ass? And if you say no, you're getting the fuck... Get out of here!

Get the fuck off my team. If you do eat ass, you can join. You can play for my team any day. I'll just have to get around the HR problem. I'll deal with that issue. Get to work. Let's do our voicemails. Voicemails today are brought to you by.

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and I couldn't help but watch the sign language lady on the side of the stage trying to do sign language in the middle of the concert. And I was just thinking about how useless she is. And I was wondering if you thought that this is one of the most useless jobs in America, or if you think there are more useless jobs than sign languaging at a concert. Thanks. I think I disagree here. I'll tell you why.

I think it is, I think sign language people at a concert are part of the marketing budget now. I don't think they give a fuck about deaf people. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It just always goes viral. I think it just gives you an opportunity. I don't even think there's sign language people.

I think there's just that one overweight lady with pink hair. That woman, she knows every lyric with her hands to every song, and she does songs like Twista. It's always like Twista, which is obviously very fast, or Wu-Tang or something like that, which is very vulgar, or it's like a metal band.

It's always a funny juxtaposition. But the artist, I'm thinking of the Twista one most recently. He walks over to her, and he's rapping and he's like looking at her hands. He's rapping at her and she's going fast and the audience is going wild and that's a viral clip. I don't give a fuck about the deaf people. I think I actually – I'll tell you something here. I think it's very useful and I wish I was deaf because we talk about all the time how I know my problem with dancing. It's that I dance to lyrics and not the beat.

So if you could just hear and feel the beat. I just feel the beat. I bet like Chris Brown's deaf. I bet that's how that motherfucker dances so well. You can't get caught up in the lyrics. John cannot even fathom the idea of not listening to the lyrics. I don't listen to the lyrics. You are the whitest man in the area.

Every time I'm listening to a song, I'm like, all right, don't dance to the lyrics. Don't dance to the lyrics. I'm just trying to the lyrics. You are the whitest man in the area. Every time I'm listening to a song, I'm like, all right, don't dance to the lyrics. Don't dance to the lyrics. I'm just trying to block them out. And then I get like, I knew you were trouble when you walked in.

I get like two dances actually on a beat. And then it's just, oh, right into the lyrics. I mean, when you were trying to snap with Camille, it was like you were retarded. I mean,

Camille wasn't even like mad at me. She was like, stop it. She was just really disappointed. Yeah, she's like, no, we can't do this. She's like, I don't even try to be mean just like they weren't as a dancer this hurts

you were fully off beat it's a full beat away from the beat i don't know how to dance on beat but if i couldn't hear the words all i could feel was the beat in my chest that vibration guess what i'm a fucking dancer i'm like oh those lyrics don't care i'm feeling this shit right now i'm fucking rocking out to this. That's what I need. You know what you need? I need to go. In order to dance well, I need fucking earplugs.

You got to get those Drew Brees kids fucking air traffic controller things on? I need to be, you know, it's the Irish proverb, dance like no one's watching. I need to dance like you can't hear. Dance like no music is on. Dance like you can't hear dance like no music is on dance like you can't hear anything that's that's how I could dance it's

it's actually it's a brilliant idea you know what you do you need to stick to jazz cause you just oh I slapped myself with the dick and then you got your own

then it's like oh no I was just freestyling I was just freestyling to the jazz beat and when I need when I need a break when I don't want to dance anymore, I'm a little tired, well, then I'll look up at a lady on stage. I'll say, oh, these are nice lyrics. Next song, ignore her.

Just feel the beat. Just feel that shit. Pop it. Pop it. Slut drop. Bam. Twerk that shit. I mean, I am in a disastrous shape.

Everything hurts. I got this low. I mean, I am in a disastrous shape. Everything hurts. I got this low. I don't even think I got to the chair. Sit down. You're scaring me. There it is. You're scaring me. Sit down.

Next voicemail. Hey, boys. It's Alyssa. So I am out with my girlfriends right now, and they told me a story that I instantly would like. This is the most K-3-0 question ever. One of my girlfriends told me that she has

started this new thing where every time she has a one-night stand, she steals a little something from the apartment. Love it. Just like, for no reason. She just steals like it.

Clap down. So her roommate started doing it too. One of them stole the rent ledger because she A, wanted to see how much the apartment cost, and B, wanted to remember who to direct in case she ever wanted to, like, go back late night.

The other one stole, like, a little flask with an octopus on it. So they're not trying to steal, like, major expensive things, just, like, little mementos. So if you were, like, having a one-night stand or just going to someone's apartment that you were probably never going to see again and you were going to steal something, but you're not taking money or not taking jewelry, like high-ticket items, what would you take? This is like the Dexter Morgan of sluts. They got to take home a little something, a little trophy, a little memento. I'd like it. I don't know what a rent ledger is. I imagine it's just

a lease they just like do they have like a book that they write down like their their monthly payments that uh yeah while not while not uh like inherently expensive seems like it might be problematic i don't know it seems like something like you have a rent ledger you probably can eat it and use it seems like something people who are adults would like to know what it is where it is but i mean i've never had to rent anything and i'm i'm good can you go is that like a thing rent ledger i feel like so many things adults keep track of are like spleens i'm sorry like um i feel like so many things adults keep track of are like appendixes you don't really need it which is like look dude yeah i'm glad you got that but if you lost it it's fine wouldn't really matter it doesn't

yeah i'm glad i'm glad it comforts you to know you have it, but I got rid of mine, and I'm good. It just looks like a spreadsheet to me. Yeah, so... I don't know. Okay. That makes sense, though, by the way. It has an address. It has some money on it. I like the... A flask, I think, is something that's probably not

going to go undetected. It's kind of like, where's my flask? I don't know. I was drunk. I left it somewhere. You're going to get away with it. What would you steal? God, that's tough,ected it's kind of like where's my flask i don't know i was drunk i left it somewhere you're gonna like get away with it uh what would you steal uh god that's tough because it's just it's uh i have a thing for keychains maybe i take a ring like a ring off the keychain um the uh jewelry i don't know i take the engagement ring you can't even say i have a thing for anymore without getting like fetishized well that's... It sounds like, oh, they're going to think I fuck it. Yeah, the... I'll fuck the keychains, but...

The classic cliche is you steal underwear, right? I mean, I remember my friend... Oh, I got no desire for women's underwear. Women, ladies, your underwear is fucking gross. Except unless you're fucking wearing them. Huh? Unless you're wearing them. Well, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll wear your underwear, but women's underwear, you guys fucking...

I mean, that shit gets all wedged up in all your holes. That shit's gross. You're not wrong. I know I'm not wrong. Yeah, it's just like... I think it's one of those unspoken things where it's like, if you see it... Yeah, people think it's like this sexy thing. You live with a girl.

Ladies, your underwear is fucking nasty. You see it in the laundry if you live with her, and it's just like, that needs to get washed. Yeah. I don't even know what color that is. I feel like once you've seen one pair of dirty underpants by the way it makes total sense it is wedged up in a exposed i mean i hate the term but it you know like when they say axe wound but it really is just like this exposed fucking hole it's wild just exposed to the elements in the world that's just open

and then when you're feeling things or certain times it's just yeah out there i mean it's crazy you guys fucking i'm sure you're pissing pants you don't have any control if they laugh too hard they pee you're listening to this podcast you're probably peeing your pants right now girls almost need underwear for their underwear they need to put on a second pair it's like a diaper yeah the lady's gotta wear a condom underwear yeah yeah like it's just just fucking like like i i like like i know uh I know the pads are not used, but you need a pad just for, like, everyday life. Yeah. Not for your period, just everyday life. Like, if you've never seen a pair of, like, dirty ladies' underpants, it shatters your

worldview. They are. They are not. Because they're super sexy not, like, prior to that. I love them. I'm like, you catch a glimpse of them. I like them in the store after that i'm out no when they're on i'm good it's when they're oh yeah i mean yeah once they

turn inside out what the fuck is this shit you know you leave them on in the act you see them poking out of your jean it's all good and then you see it afterwards in the hamper you're like oh my jesus christ that will use this to clean up a Kool-Aid spill. Some Kool-Aid and some fucking... No, I'm not right. What did you use this to wax your car? Holy shit What did you just fly here You didn't have a throw up bag You just puked into these things

Holy shit You need a psychiatrist After this episode man The point of even bringing this up Shit, John. You need a psychiatrist after this episode, man. The point of even bringing this up... Well, you run around the zoo in your underpants and a giraffe spit at you. A giraffe spit. Holy shit. I had a college roommate.... Would you shit your pants?

Oh, buddy. Oh, man. I mean, yeah, it does look like that. It's like all those things. I don't know what dress up looks like. I was just straight up like, what, did you shit in your pants? My college roommate came bursting in one day. He thought this girl stole his underwear, stole his boxers,

and he came kicking into my door one day. I was staying in. He went out, came in at 3 a.m. He was like, bam, I got him, that bitch. Like, payback's a bitch i stole her underwear and then we were moving out like at the end of the semester and they were just behind his bed his boxers were behind his bed he just like he lost his boxers thought this girl stole him stole her underwear probably never talked to her again because that girl was like he stole my underwear he's a fucking

fetish creep well done you uh you really showed her you moron now you can't steal anything that would even have any sexual undertones because then you are a serial killer right girls you could steal you could steal whatever and you're good i wouldn't know yeah no i have no belongings that would like bother me like you could maybe maybe if they stole one of your children maybe then i'd be like wow gonna have them you could you know sneakers i'm not gonna notice t-shirts i got a thousand i couldn't find my laptop the other day i was like it's gone i guess whatever like you know you could steal all my shit whatever the one thing i noticed and this is so weird but i'm dead serious i bought drunk in an airport once coming home from nashville i believe it was when i come up from the titans patriots game last year. Danny DeVito is on the cover of Cigar Aficionado.

I thought it was so funny. I bought it. It's still the only thing on my bedside table. Where's my Cigar Aficionado? He's got it. I'm going to show you the picture. He's got the cigars in his pocket like they're sausages. It's very, very funny.

We'll put the picture up on gold so you can see it too. It is a funny spot for a guy. Is he a big time stogie guy? I don't know. I just love that picture. Honestly, I'm going to frame this. Put that on a t-shirt. If you don't want cigar fish, you're not.

I feel like people would wear that. Hipsters in Brooklyn would love that shit. Girls can steal anything. Guys have to be very careful. I'm just not. And this is the thing. Girls can steal anything. Guys have to be very careful. I'm just not. And this is the thing. Girls are kleptos. Every girl goes through that phase where they steal stuff.

Guys don't do it as much, so I don't think about this. Yeah. I'm rewatching Breaking Bad. I'm seeing that with Maria again. I kind of forgot about that. The girls that I know from like 7th, 8th, 9th grade, who I thought were like the most prim and proper, would be like, oh, yeah, I go to Victoria's Secret. I put on like 13 pairs of underwear and walk out.

Like you? You do? Like, yeah, the slut who's like giving handjobs, sure. But you? For real? Girls just steal everything. I would get down with this idea, but I would have to be – it would have to be a game time decision. I'd be like, all right.

Yeah, yeah. I just see something that caught my eye. Girls also have like knickknacks and tchotchkes and all these dumb things in their apartment guys it would be like unless you take the fucking tv off the wall there's nothing to take yeah like open up the fridge and take like a natty light take my fucking rent ledger i don't have anything for you to take i'm thinking i'm trying to think about like my room i have like a padlock um that i it was like i took out of my gym bag and like two years ago and it's just kind of been sitting there since like a padlock a cup with some change

in it and a cigar aficionado well i think they're gonna take the cigar aficionado outside of that like i don't know there's there's really it's been chicks stealing all our shit that could be that we lost the 40s wine. We lost everything. Oh, fuck. Everything that we called out. I didn't even realize that. Yeah. We lost everything that was of value.

Oh, God. I think I threw up my neck dancing. I bet you did. You've been way too animated this episode. If you've been watching today, John has just been like simmered down. I got like two hours of sleep last night, and so I was just trying to form or force energy. Well, don't worry. We're on to our last episode,

our last voicemail here before we get into Jerry Farrar. So last voicemail, what do we got? Hello, KFC site, Super Producer BC. I have a question. I've been out of the game for a while. I just got out of a relationship. And I was dating my best friend, so she was even kind of weird with us. So I just hooked up with someone for the first time since me and my ex broke up.

And he was like, sleep over, sleep over. I want to wake up and, like, bang in the morning, whatever. And I was like, all right, sure. And then as soon as he fell asleep, I called myself an Uber and fucking went to fuck all because why the fuck am I going to sleep there unless he's my boyfriend? So I guess my question is like,

is it weird for a girl to just call herself an Uber home? Or am I being the low-key MVP because did he like low-key now i would say wasn't just trying to like to not be a dick because i don't want to seem like like a whore or anything but i was like dude you're not my boyfriend why the fuck am i gonna sleep there but just let me know bye i mean i i just don't think she likes this guy very much i feel like if you hit it off you have a good date and the guy's like hey you want to stay over like we'll hook up in the morning that means he like enjoyed you and wants off you have a good date and the guy's like hey you want to stay over like hook up in the morning that means he like

enjoyed you and wants to spend more time with you and if you don't want to do that that's fine but I think that's the reason why I don't think you have to only sleep over if it's like your committed boyfriend I think date one I wouldn't sleep over you don't have to sleep over it sounds to me like this girl has a rule

I only sleep over if it's like a committed boyfriend and I don't think that's no I think that's crazy yeah that is again if you want to fine but i don't think that's a normal rule that necessarily needs to happen i also think while the morning might be awkward and all that shit like the night where it's like i'm just gonna go to sleep you know what i mean yeah like i'm a little drunk i'm far away the uber's gonna be like eight minutes. I don't know. I'm just going to go to sleep.

I'll wake up in two hours and then I'll go. I think adult sleeping over is much like child sleeping over where you're like, look, we're not going to go right into a sleepover. Let's have a play date first. Okay. Let's see how this works out. You'll go home after your play date. Right, right. I'll call my mom. And then if things go really well, maybe next week.

Then you can bring your sleeping bag and your teddy bear and your blankie. Yeah, we'll really do it right. I think that's a good rule, but I don't think there should be a rule in the opposite direction either. I think if you had a good date and it all clicks and you're like, I do want to fuck in the morning or I don't want to leave now, you don't have to be like, well, you're not my boyfriend, so I'm out of here. Yeah, no, I don't think so. I think that's what you said is probably a good general rule of thumb like just do it that way you can't really go wrong but if you wanted to you can yeah you can't i'd rather you didn't yeah i i used to be a big cuddler i've gone away from it again i think

if things go well and you have some good sex and you think that like you can have some in the morning again it's like like two for one. Morning sex to me is a fickle beast. Morning, noon, night, you don't like sex. Well, but morning in particular it's a fickle beast because it's like look, I got this boner right now.

But I gotta brush my teeth. And if I brush my teeth, if I start stabbing myself in the mouth, I'm gonna lose this boner. And it's, I just lay there worrying which one I'm gonna do. Can't brush teeth with. And if I brush my teeth, if I start stabbing myself in the mouth, I'm going to lose this boner. And I just lay there worrying, what's what I'm going to do? You can't brush your teeth with a boner? I can. You're talking about you wake up in the morning and you got to brush your teeth before you have sex? I can't stand when girls are like, I have morning breath.

No, I don't. It's not like when you kiss someone with morning breath. You feel it on your tongue and you smell it all up in your nose. It's like, I don't know. We both woke up right now. I don't do it. We just woke up. We're both gross.

Let's just have, like, gross sex. I just prefer to. I'm big. When I wake up, I got to brush my teeth right away. Right. But the fear is that you're going to lose this boner. It's not really a fear. It's just something that it's just, you know, it's a hurdle.

And everything in life, if there's one little hurdle in the way, you're just like, I'd rather not do it. Well, you know, it's raining out. I'm not going to go to the gym. What about the morning sobriety issue after, you know, you were on like a decade stretch of I've only had drunk sex. The morning being sober sex can be an X factor. No, not for me. You don't mind? No, no. I don't think there's a huge difference there for me personally.

What? That's a new term. I don't know. What have you been saying for years? No, you've been and I've you can't last for sober sex. You've been, and I've been going along with it. What? You've been saying for years that you can't last having sober sex.

I have not said that. I don't notice a difference, I don't think. I think this is revisionist history. I don't think you're remembering your sex life or what you said on the podcast about your sex life. I always hear people be like that. Because I always said I had girlfriends and shit. I always had sober sex. I always had drunk sex.

Right. But I don't think there's, between me having drunk sex and me having sober sex, there's a big time difference. Huh. I don't think that's what you said in the past. I'm pretty sure it is. Maybe it's not, but I'm pretty sure it is. I always was the opposite for so long that, like,

when I had a girlfriend for so long, when we went out drinking, I was like, I'm just going to sleep. I'll fuck you in the morning when we're sober. And all the other guys were like, I don't have girlfriends, so I only have drunk sex. I'm not talking about, like, the sex. I'm talking about just the time, like, how long you last. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, I know. And then the step further is always like, yeah. I don't think I'm, like, better at having sex when i'm drunk than i am when i'm sober i think it's i think i i in my past i think i've had drunk sex more but i don't i don't think there's like i'm like oh like that's my superpower drunk sex and sober sex it's like what's this i think it's and i mean look you can ask other people they tell you better than i did but i i mean i think most people, if you hit that sweet spot where you're not shit-faced, you're worried about getting hard and all that shit, and you're desensitized, it's going to be longer.

It's almost scientific. It has to be. It could be, I guess. I'm just thinking back from this weekend. I don't think there's a... I think it's different when you're older, too, though. I don't know. I think your dick just gets better.

It gets better? But these are my Roman swipes. Yeah. I think you train yourself. It's just like, yeah, I'm having sex again. I've been doing this for a while now. Not that big of a deal. But you're 15 years, bro.

Let's go. It's like drinking. You used to be all excited to sneak into the bar. It's like, I've been drinking for 15 years. It's like, I've been fucking pussies for 15 years it's just not gonna get it going anymore uh i don't even know what the question was don't even care jerry ferrara's up uh jerry ferrara your boy turtle from entourage talking sneakers talking fatherhood talking nicks talking uh esports all of it very interesting cat one of the most genuinely nice guys i've ever met this interview is brought to

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Too long. Too long. Your first time here, right? First time in the new office. You've actually, Jerry's been around through when we used to just rent studio space, Too long. Your first time here, right? In the new office. Jerry's been around through when we used to just rent studio space. That was our first one. I remember where we were.

That was pro media or some shit in Midtown. What were you doing going to that? When he calls you to ask you to come meet me at a random studio in Midtown, what are you saying to this? That's what I do when I get to know someone. For the little people. I show up. That really someone. For the little ones. For the little people. You know what? I show up. Yeah.

That actually. No, that really was. I mean, I remember thinking that. I can't believe you fucking said yes. What's this guy's deal? I might as well kill him and teach him a lesson. What's this guy's deal? Why did he show up?

No, that was awesome, though. And then, obviously, the last office, we're getting our act together. And now some state-of-the-art type shows. No, this is awesome. You've been a part of the whole growth process. I was in a green room watching the live. This is awesome. It's very apropos, I think, because the Barstool demo has grown up with you.

For sure. It was the 15th anniversary of Entourage, right? Yeah, man. I'm starting to really feel old. That's got to make you feel old. Really. Think about what's happened in 15 years of anyone's life. And it was the 15th anniversary of Entourage, right? Yeah, man. I still don't really feel old. That's got to make you feel old. It really, like, 15. Think about what's happened in 15 years of anyone's life. Yeah.

Was the iPhone around 15 years? No. No, no, not even. iPhone, dude. We were on flip Razer phones. Yeah. Come on. Right, yeah.

Vinny Chase was popping, like, the sliver. And I was like, oh, shit, the new Razer, you know? Motorola Razer phones. The iPhone was, like, 2006 or 2007 or something like that. Seven? And that was probably 2004? Ten years later, yeah. Oh, my God. That's some crazy shit. I usually give people shit like that when they're like, oh, I'm feeling old. Seven, and that was probably 2004. Ten years later, yeah. Oh, my God.

That's so crazy. I usually give people shit like that when they're like, oh, I'm feeling old. You know how time works. Like, years go by. But there are some times where you're like, shit, the iPhone wasn't around. The world was a different place when Entourage started. Yeah, I mean, I even remember when the show was coming to an end, there was a line, I think it was like season seven, we were doing some of the tequila stuff, right? And the Vince character was dating Sasha Gray.

And I remember his character tweeted out something about the tequila, and I had the line, like, what's the big deal? And then Conley's character, he says to me, like, he has two million Twitter followers. I remember they called cut, and I walked over to our producers producers like, all right, tell me what this Twitter is. What's a Twitter? It's like 2009, right? It's very early. I was like, explain what this Twitter is. And now we're all addicts.

Now we're all addicted to that shit. It's like one of the first things you probably check in the morning. I mean, that's it. Roll over. I hate how much I'm addicted to it, but I just also have accepted it. I do, too. But really, the sports is what sucks me in on it. Other than that,

I could sort of take it or leave it, but sports and Twitter. You mean like watching a game and simultaneously watching Twitter with it? I enjoy that. I love it. I was kind of wondering, how often does on a regular day, not sports because obviously that's different. You said it's the first thing you check in the morning. How often are you checking?

We're checking while we drive. It's super dangerous yeah that's no good i do my phone died the other day on the train you panic and i was just like i i like two more stops on metro north like not a big fucking deal and i was like can i use your phone can i you know yeah it's bad dude it's bad i know like my regular friends don't care but i wonder like if like because like you're you're obviously a celebrity and then you're like – you're kind of in that world. You kind of fuck around on social media and stuff like that. So what is a regular – what's your screen time on a regular day? Are you talking mainly Twitter or just on my phone in general?

Twitter screen time. If there's no major sports shit going, like no draft or Knicks, Giants, Yankee game, anything like that, or just good sport? I mean, I'll put in an hour to two hours still, just wasting time. I do a lot of gaming stuff, so Twitter's actually a great place for gaming news, updates, and stuff like that, too.

I'm at least always an hour to two hours a day. When basketball, football season roll back around, it's triple that. I do like an hour to two hours every hour to two hours. Just constantly. 60% of the time I'm on there, 100% of the time. Obviously the biggest change in your life, though, baby boy. Congratulations.

Why didn't you tell me? No one told me that it was. A bad idea? Well, no, you're not going to sleep. Yeah, dude. That shit is great. Come on. Everyone told you. That's all I hear.'s like come on people everyone told you that's

all i hear no no people say it with these two that's all i hear about say you hear you you know because we give you the real deal other people are like oh it's gonna be tough sleeping and it's like what they should be telling you is you don't realize that the human body cannot function with the level of sleep you're going to get and you're going to be grumpy and angry and irritated and you're gonna fight and you're stupid and speak and you're going to be grumpy and angry and irritated and you're going to fight and speak sometimes i'm not going to be able to form words walking around like i mean don't they like train navy seals with sleep deprivation right like baby screams like those are that's like this isn't like the final stage of becoming i'd probably know that kind of shit is is the real but they did a study that once said the drop in happiness or quality of life from having one kid is higher than getting fired from your job.

It's higher than losing a loved one. It's like some really bleak shit. Technically, having a child is worse than that. And obviously, there's a lot of happiness. We're really encouraging the human population growth of human population on a brighter note once there's actually a little catch-up of sleep and a little bit of personality against the form it really like that's the real deal the person is the only thing that could counteract the sleep deprivation and stuff like that is the the the boost that you get from just seeing this person start to develop into a person.

If it wasn't real cool, funny, cute, memorable, at a point, nobody would do it. Exactly. They'd be like, but we're never having any more of these. I'm learning a lot. How old is he now? He's four months old.

So that's still pretty new. Like today. Oh, wow. Yeah, he's like four months old today. Happy four-month birthday. I felt like, you know, a baby comes out, the mother has an instant connection

and for a guy it's a little different and i remember like never would say it out loud by the time kind of being like i'm waiting for this guy to become like you know my boy here you know where's my buddy yeah yeah yeah and it does take like a few months if you're being honest with yourself of course you love him right away or whatever but like you know right around now when you start to get some facial reactions of personality and shit that's when you're really like okay i get it now i i was just really bad at the handoff like here here take him for a second and i would just be like all right um and then like everything's just so gooey and gooey you're just scared you're gonna hurt the brain the skull thing is the skull is just a a mush. It's like it just rained.

And you step on grass. I think you just got a sweaty kid, bro. He's got a skull now. He's got a fully developed skull. This is awesome. No, it's the best. Where are you now? In New York?

I'm in New York full time now. So you're going to have a city kid? I guess that's the way it's shaken out. That's weird, man. You're going to have one of those kids. I got some Jewish cousins who grew up on the Upper West Side who were taking the subway when they were like three years old. A bunch of weirdos, you know what I mean?

City kids are weird, man. They're in real cars at like four years old. Just to see what they're like. They just followed a city kid for like six blocks. I was like, where's he going? Dude, you're four. Where are your parents? That's going to be the. I was like, where's he going? Why are you, dude, you're four. Where are your parents? That's going to be

the real test of like, because, you know, with acting, especially with TV shows, you know, you take a job and you hope that it stays on

for years, but it usually requires you going to that city. I've never really done that without considering, like only, I only consider myself, really.

Like, yeah, I'll go to New York for two years. I'll go to New Orleans for a year. Now it's different because you're like wife and kid. You're like moving a whole family.

So this and, you know, this is the final season of Power. So I'm excited for what's next. But in the same breath, I want to more know, like, where is the what's next? Am I going back to L.A.? Am I staying here? Where? So when we last were talking, power was out but i i don't think it had really popped yet right i think it was like maybe the first couple seasons because

you were kind of like thinking about esports and maybe what's next and then like two minutes later power becomes this you know mega sensation um so i feel like you never did did you expect that i mean in that moment i don't know if you necessarily did but did you always have hope that it was going to be like as good of a show as you knew it was? I didn't know my role would end up being as big as it was because when I first started, it was a lot smaller. It was really good stuff, but it just was a couple episodes here or there. Then once I became a regular, it kind of coincided with – I mean, Power always had fans. The viewership was always tremendous, but then it crossed into more mainstream media

where articles were starting to get written about it it was starting to reach more mainstream audiences and stuff like that so uh no i did not know it was going to lead me to this path almost you know five years later uh to go from entourage to this it's like yeah man that's that was what i was getting at is like i must be a nice guy, I guess. I must have done something nice to be this lucky. No, the universe, you know, if karma is a real thing, I feel like you're proof positive. You are. I'm hoping. I'm trying, man.

I mean. To go from one to the other, though, like that, there's pressure for the next one, bro. I don't know. It's different now because I don't have pressure where it used to be like, well, I want to get the next one because I still have something to prove. I still love to do what I want to do, but now it's more I just want to get us set up.

Like I said, I want to find out where the next one is and then I really, selfishly, I want to get a schedule where I could just be around. I don't want to be working 90 hours a week, but maybe I might have to. How many hours a week did you film Battleship? Because I think you did Battleship too.

That's like a blink if you miss me kind of deal. You know that, right? What do you mean? You talking about Battleship for real? You know, he's being dead fucking serious. I was not in Battleship. You were in Battleship, man. I was in Battleship.

This is true. Some of my stuff got cut out of Battleship too, but Pete Berg made it up to me with lone survivor um i i was i was in baton rouge louisiana for like three four weeks that's what i was shot well not all of it it was someone was in hawaii uh my stuff was done on a on a stage in baton rouge louisiana which i'd never been didn't know much about was kind of quiet and then i walked outside my hotel on like a saturday morning when it was an LSU game and there was just a billion people. I was like, whoa!

I didn't even realize there was a game today. I woke up at noon. How would the wife of kids like Baton Rouge? Because I'm ready for Battleship 2. If he had money, if he was super rich all of a sudden, the first thing he's doing is financing Battleship 2. We didn't see you die. They'll be there.

No spoilers! Come on now! Battleship spoilers is fucked. It's be there. Spoiler alert. No spoilers. Come on now. Battles are spoilers. I think it's kind of inferred. It's inferred. Look, ships explode all the time and then people survive on them. You dive off and you go under the water and the fire is above you. You're good.

It's not like aliens nuke a ship and then everybody survives. That's never really happened before. You're right. You got me there. That's a fair point. I love that you hit me with Battleship, dude. Well done. Battleship is a movie I talk about all the fucking time.

I love that goddamn movie. I know Devlin does too. It's an awesome movie. How bleak and how dark did things get for you with the draft, with the lottery? Not that bleak because I don't think – I mean there was the version of Knicks fans that were like, we're getting Zion. We're getting the number one pick.

But I – Kept it real. Well, I mean what was our actual statistical? What, 84% chance of not getting it. Yeah, we had a 12.5% chance of getting the number one pick. So I didn't really particularly love those odds. The people who – I mean the Photoshopps of Kyrie, Durant, and Zion that started floating around. And the people who really – the the the photoshops of kairi durant and zion

that started floating around like and the people who really getting your hopes up is one thing the people who really thought it was going to happen i'm like do you not know that you're a knicks fan do you mean i did allow myself two decades i went i did go there for a moment it was a fun place to visit yeah i mean fun vacation yeah to go on like hey we're going to Kyrie, KD, Zion Town. This is great. But yeah, I mean, I don't know. I think it always was going to be almost unachievable thing to get all three of those guys. It was going to be unachievable to get any of them.

It's not going to happen. We're Knicks fans, dude. Every time a New York guest comes in, Kevin will be like, what are you doing? Don't even let yourself keep your hopes up. Don't get your hopes up. And if it happens, then great. But unless someone's rigging a lottery, it ain't happening. And no one's going to come play for James Dolan ever, man. I think I answered a question earlier today from someone who was like,

what would you rather question, like, a Knicks championship or you win an Oscar? And I legit, without, I didn't even have to think about it. Knicks championship. It's not even. And I legit, without, I didn't even have to think about it. Knicks championship. My man. Get on it. My man. I love that. Winning an Oscar is a selfish request.

Do you know how much joy that would bring? Millions of people never thought they would see. He's a good guy. That's why he's going to get a third very good role, because the universe is going to send it his way, because he really meant that. I don't know, man. I genuinely would enjoy that more. I would i would cry for real i mean i i'm you would know you're answering

the question for yourself but i'm really wondering like you get that moment to get up on stage and be like i want to thank the academy and you're really not taking that all right i first of all i don't think i'll ever allow myself to think to play the fantasy of that really happening. Okay, let me hit you with this. Okay. Which is more likely? Which is more possible? The Knicks winning a championship is way more likely. I highly disagree.

I swear to God. I definitely think that you could find that role where you have a breakout this or that. It's like 40 pounds. Yes, you change your body. Play a gay guy. Something like that. And all of a sudden, boom. That is way more likely than a James Dolan run organization winning a championship.

Would you like to place a friendly, gentlemanly wager as to what happens first? And there's obviously the likely thing is a push. Yeah. All right. But you want to just say, like, steak dinner? One of the things is we both die, but yeah. Nick's win a championship. You take me out for a steak dinner.

If I win an Academy Award, I'll happily take you out for a steak dinner. I'm winning no matter what. Also, I get the Oscar. I just get to keep the actual statue, and I put it here. You can keep the Oscar. Done. All right. Deal.

We'll take it to dinner. We'll put it right there. Yes. For sure. It's also, it's not fair, though, because you're already rich. and every time we ask people about that we've had jk simmons and then we had someone else and it was like would you rather have your oscar or the the the commercial role you do where and they're both times like oh let me get the commercial i could care less about the oscar i want yeah jk simmons does the we are farmers but she was like that was the best gig i've ever got

he's like i would i would get my oscar in He was like, that was the best gig I've ever gotten. He's like, I would give my Oscar in a heartbeat. And Mayhem was the other one. He didn't have one, but we said, would you rather have an Oscar or it would be Mayhem?

And he was like, Mayhem. You don't necessarily get paid for an Oscar. That's what I'm saying. Hopefully we'll lead you to money-paying roles, but I don't know

if that's always the case. I know Farmers or whatever, that pays. Yeah, big time. All right, would it be a New York, would it be a Knicks championship or a Power Roll

or an Entourage Roll or something like that? See, now you're talking about money. Now I'm talking about real life. Now you're talking about your kids and your wife. That's the thing. It's for the kid. Like, that's the thing. So, then you can acknowledge selfish goals because it's for, but it's not really selfish because it's for the family. So, I would go with

that. For the kid. For the kid, right. For the kid. You can't argue that. So, you're Knicks, giants uh yankees yankees so you don't really have any issue with raising your kid based around those teams like you're good no but i at some point my wife is from cleveland and you know she has a great group of friends great family and obviously they're all cleveland is a great sports town. They love their teams. I feel like I'm going to have a serious Giants-Browns fight. Because also the Browns are trending a certain way. The Giants are trending another.

I think it's going to be a big – like five years from now, it could be a big problem. I don't think that's a huge problem. I think you're actually – the timing is actually working out. I think if he was like eight years old right now, you'd be in trouble because Baker Mayfield and the Browns, that's like what's hot and cool and fun. What if they're like going for their second Super Bowl in six years and Baker's like,

Baker's going to be like six years and be the best quarterback in the NFL. I know the Browns are on the come up and I know anything can happen in sports these days. We're going to just be throwing around multiple championships to the Cleveland Browns. Are you saying the Browns are the Browns? I think the Browns will eventually be the Browns and I think the Browns will eventually be the Browns, and I think the Giants will eventually become the Giants again by the time he maybe is watching football.

Well, here's my question for you guys then. If I have to give up one, say it's like in marriage, you legally have to give up one sports team. Which one do I give up? That's a great question. First of all, I don't think it's a problem to have both. For me, non-negotiable is – I grew up like a Patriots-Giants fan.

That's so weird. It wasn't like a super fan. By the time you were like your own fan, you were a Patriots fan. So it was like... I like Jason Sehorne and stuff like that. But I think if you have to give one up... For me, the Knicks are like almost non-negotiable. You're not.

I was thinking... I'm not a basketball guy, so I was thinking baseball. I was thinking you keep Yankees. Are you not even going to be up for drafts? Yankees Indians? by the way she knows Knicks is not it's not negotiable we're going to go through this together

pull up a seat this is what we're going to bond over I want to be 80 years old my dad could die I want that moment for us. But as far as Yankees, Giants, like,

that's a tough choice. Like, Browns or Indians? I mean, as long as football and baseball are kind of in the same realm for you, I mean, the Yankees are like the best

franchise in all sports. Like, you're going to get more success out of that. Right, but there's a part of me that's like, no,

go grind it out with those Browns fans. Oh but now you want to teach a lesson in a weird way no because but like i said by the time he starts watching football they very well could be very good like he will have missed the grind so he might not deserve to be a browns fan because he didn't suffer through so you would actually consider burdening your son with a a lesser team to teach a lesson to appreciate the journey. You know what? I'm having flashes of having this conversation because I think we talked about appreciating the journey before and I'm pretty sure I told you it turned me

into a fucking lunatic. I am a madman because of the journey. Don't do this to your son. Don't do it. I'm doing the opposite. With my kids, I'm still very much on the verge of I'm not going to let them root for any of my teams. Really? Are you okay with that?

I think you're sacrificing something huge. It's tough. You're sacrificing all of the time you spend with your son. And that's actually what happened the other day. The Mets were playing a big game, and I was like, and Keegan's still very small, but he wanted to watch Frozen. And I was like, it'd be really good if he just wanted to watch the baseball game with me right now.

So maybe just as an ease of raising them, it'd be really good if he just wanted to watch the baseball game with me right now so maybe just as a ease of of you know raising them it'd be good if they're all on the same page but i also do not want my son to be screaming about the mets the way i am at my age but will you be okay with because i do know there's a rare but it does happen where the kid kind of picks the team to like spite the dad a little bit like would you be happy if he's like atlanta braves no see i said i think i'm gonna make a restricted bit? Would you be happy if he was like, Atlanta Braves! No, see, I said I think I'm going to make him a restricted free agent. Like you can pick whoever you want, but you can't pick like Yankees, Braves, Patriots, you know, maybe Phillies, something like that. And the rest, have at it.

Because the trend has been like, if you look at basketball with little kids, it's like the Warriors craze, right? Like little kids now, even in New York, regardless, whether... It's star-based almost. So you just follow the guys you like. I think basketball is very...

My nephew was like, went from a Cavs fan to a Warriors fan. I had to pull him over. I'm like, dude, you can't do this. What you're doing right now is wrong.

There was an article recently. I can't do this. I think it was in like Business Insider where it was like, this is the age of the flowing fan or something like that. And it was like, this is the age of the flowing fan or something like that.

It makes sense because when we were younger, you could only watch the teams that were on your TV. You could only watch your local teams. You could watch any team you want. You had the Packages, you got National TV. You can just follow the good players. I guess that's what a lot of younger kids are doing now. You can't go, okay, I like the Cavs.

Oh, LeBron left to the Lakers. Now I like the Warriors. Now I like the Raptors. We have one kidron left to the Lakers. Now I like the Warriors. You can't. That's not allowed. We have one kid who works here who does that, and it's so funny. He just embraces it. How is that fun, though? How is that even fun? He wins every year.

He hasn't missed a championship. He calls it every year. He's like, yeah, I got my Cavs this year versus my Warriors. And then we're NBA champions. He claims both. Oh, you son of a bitch. That is awful sports ethics right there. Awful.

But when you think about it, like we've kind of talked about, you think about it like a girlfriend or even a friend. It's just like someone who's wronged you every single year of your life. Why do you run back to them every time? It goes against all of these. You're always hoping one day they're going to love you back. So honestly, I had a philosophical mental breakdown like that.

Just that entire sentence right there a couple months ago. And then the Mets win 15 out of 16. And I'm like, and that's why. And how happy. Because that was the amazing weekend away together. And we fell in love. And they'll crush me again. Remember that 15 game?

Yeah, we'll always have. Remember when we had to have your vows real quick? Yeah, right. We'll always have July 24th. Any relationship where you were doing your vows probably isn't going to end well. We've got to really reaffirm this. What about, um, let's say, uh,

he gets a little older and he is, uh, he's three stripes over the Nike, the Nike check. Wait, can you have a son who would be Team Adidas over Team Nike? I mean, I can because I look forward to really being old school. I'm hoping he can look at me when he gets older like, my dad's still got some shoe game, even if I don't agree with it. But he's going to be losing out on a great collection

because he's not going to find much Adidas stuff in my closet. So if he goes the three-stripe route, he's going to be foregoing a great inheritance of sneakers. Some other kid, like nephew or someone, picking up a big one. No, no, I gave them to your cousin. What? Yeah, he liked the stuff.

What about the video games here? Would you rather your son be down with all your sports teams but hates video games? Or you can pick up the sticks and play with him, but he's not into sports. Look, I would have pre... That's so tough because there's two things I love. And ultimately, not to get too... I want him to find his own stuff as well. Like if we're,

if we're just focusing in on the two things I love as hobby slash passions, um, I would hope for the, the sports thing would be night. I don't know. I just feel like I'm probably gonna be watching sports and going to sporting events, maybe even longer than I'm gaming only because it just gets tougher to,

to find the time to gain. I look at them, make time to play nowadays. Did you keep up with video games the entire time? Did you have a hiatus and come back to it? I did. And you were able – you're still good? No, I had a hiatus because – and it was probably – I think it was toward the tail end of Entourage

because I was just working a lot and, and yeah, I was a single guy. I wasn't necessarily staying home on Friday nights playing call of duty. I was a man. I was going out trying to like, I'm like 29 years old at this point. I'm like,

I'm going to enjoy this. Yeah. You can always play video games later. Right. And ride the entourage wave, maybe capitalize. It's funny. Cause when I did meet my wife,

I wasn't playing game. I just, I don't even think I own, I mean, I think I still own an Xbox, but I didn't have, like, the whole setup I have now. She did not know me as a gamer. And then, like, about two years into our relationship, when the itch came back,

and so I was like, oh, she's like, oh, you're gaming again, huh? I'm like, yeah, no, it's this, yeah, I'm really into this game. She's like, oh, okay, well, I'm gonna go in the other room. All right. And then we... See you seven hours later. Right. One day, she's like oh okay well i'm gonna go in the other room all right and then we're seven hours later right one day she's like okay so time out so this this is what you used to do yeah this is actually this is me this is me the most naked form she's like oh we're gonna have to

we're gonna have to set some some ground rules here i'm like that's fair that's fine because i am very addictive so uh that's fine i could yeah but it's also you know it's it's like a job now you know what i mean it's not even necessarily just a hobby it's like you turn it there's a whole potential career behind this well that was me trying to say how can i figure out a way to game with impunity where i could say no i need to do this and making it sort of a living where I actually can earn some money has helped with that. Because if ever I'm like going overboard with the gaming, she's like, you're seriously playing more.

I'm like, did you see this? We just had a kid. Mortgage is due. I never had a game in my life. You want to start talking numbers? Let's talk numbers. I can't believe you could pick it back up. I probably did a hiatus around that same age.

I probably got back in in at like 27 28 and i played for a night maybe two nights and i was like this is past this world's passed me by it's funny how much you like it's almost like a sport like you lose it like it's like i used to be able to like you know play basketball and it's tough now i used to be able to like be quick with the with the sticks and i'm not even. Well, oddly enough too, like through 2K, there literally is like – with the 2K, like there's studies of like when professional gamers hand-eye coordination. It's a crime, right? It's a 27. It's a much younger crime.

Don't quote me. I don't know the article off the top of my head, but a real institution did this research and it does start to dip. And that stuff that now – I mean the stakes are now so high. There's so much money on the line for these organizations. When looking at players, like they take age. I'm sure they take age into account because of stuff like that. What's your role with like the 2K Knicks team? You're like a part of that franchise?

Yes. So with Knicks Gaming, 2K League, there's 21 NBA franchises that have 2K franchises now. My title is Head Scout and Executive Consultant. What a world! That's better than Entourage. That's better than Power. That's fucking great. And let me tell you, man, look.

There's a lot of people who don't get it, and I understand. I've had arguments with people where it's like, what? So are you running the pick and roll? It's like, yeah, dude. Yes, exactly. And when when we're scouting we are actually running analytics and looking at how guys run pick and roll and defend pick and roll and true shooting percentage those are actual pieces of data we look at and it tracks it matters um some people don't get it but i do playing playing like defense in 2K is just ridiculous. I'm a great defender.

I'll defend the pick and roll in 2K. It's crazy. It's a thing. The best way I could sum it up, and if you could wrap your head around it in this way, and I know it's hard for some people, think about it like it's real basketball. I know no one's playing real basketball, but they are trying to manipulate these electronic players to do real basketball things. That's how it goes. Like, guys run five.

There was teams that last year when we won the championship, they were running five out, and the dude was scoring 40 points a game because he was one-on-one, could not be stopped. So we have to game plan for this. Like, look, they're going to run five out. This guy's going to have the ball 80% of the time. You have to figure out a counter. Video games are all about what do you do well?

Here's the counter for that. Sounds dumb, but... No, it doesn't sound dumb. I can see that sounding dumb to other people still, but I think most people who are somewhat with it, we're on board now. We get it. Yeah, there was a time when that would sound crazy,

but now I completely understand. You spell it out better than I've heard it spelled out before. Yeah. Do you even bother fighting with people anymore? Talk to me. I've had this discussion a couple of times with a journalist. Quite a few times. He just doesn't get it.

He thinks it's ridiculous. He also thinks these kids are so unhealthy. They sit in their room. It's not like that anymore. There's training facilities. These kids have trainers. they are eating well. They have not, I'm not saying they have chefs, but they have people make nutritionists making sure that that doesn't happen because a lot of their time is dedicated to being at a screen

on a laptop or an Xbox or a PlayStation for 12 hours, 14 hours a day. So yes, there are health concerns with that. So the counter is like well we're gonna get your chain you're gonna work out you're gonna eat right it's it's so if you get like drafted to one of these teams yeah it's not i mean maybe not the same money and glamour but like are these kids like oh i made it like i'm gonna have the best uh equipment electronics i'm gonna have a nutritionist i'm gonna have a facility that kind of shit yeah like the the cool thing for me that i really enjoyed obviously i i i got into this because I really

enjoy gaming and I enjoy 2K. The thing I didn't expect to happen was also, you're dealing with guys who are so young. Yeah, they're kids, right? The youngest player on our team when we drafted was 19. The oldest, I think, was 27, and the other players were somewhere in between, and

for a lot of these guys, this is sort of their first job. I mean, they had jobs like you have as a teenager, but this is like their first career job. And they get full health insurance. That was my mom's proudest moment was I got my own health insurance. She's like, you did? Oh, that meant dental too? She could not have been more proud than when I got entourage.

She's like, you got your own. You're like, you have full coverage? Yes, mom. So these young men are coming in, and they're making a base salary. They're moving to New York City with an apartment paid for, full health benefits. It's just crazy. Do they live together like Vine stars, or everyone's got their own apartment? With our guys, I think because there's six guys on an NBA 2K team,

I think we had three apartments, two, two, and two. That's fucking awesome. Because apartments in New York are expensive. That should be like its own reality show. I'm sure you guys would collect its footage and shit. Oh, yeah. Like the life of six guys. No, they had their own show on MSG Network.

I think the Knicks gaming guys had their own show on MSG Network. I think they ran their – the Knicks gaming guys had their own show on MSG. Did I see you – I feel like I can picture a clip of you like drafting a guy. You put in like the pick, right? Like on the phone. With the third overall pick, we select. That's the other thing. And if you have any fantasy football, basketball, whatever, if like that's even a little bit your thing, How could you not love this experience, right? So I scout all these guys, and we're making lists, and I'm actually talking to real MSG personnel

that are helping me with the draft. I had a real analytics person from an Ivy League school who was crunching numbers with me, and we're doing draft boards. And this is all going to really be played. This is different. You're drafting a team, but these guys are actually going to play for the team that you are associated with not your fantasy team and we're in the war room we had

our plan and the draft starts i mean adam silver announced the first overall pick of the draft and he said this is our fourth institute this is our fourth league it's nba wmba g league and now the 2k league so how does this not fire you up? And then the guy we really wanted kind of dropped to us. I think we were the ninth overall pick and we got our man. Are you good? Are you good? It's early enough that

you got a little bit of status. You're good yourself. I mean, we won the championship year one. There's a caveat with that though. I'm pretty sure you had some success. So in year one, I think we were way out of the playoffs i think we were like uh three and seven right so we were on the way on the outside looking in but they instituted this in between every four games that count toward the regular season there's uh tournaments that do not count for the regular season but they're cash tournaments so these guys guys are playing for $100,000, $200,000, $300,000, and so on.

So they decided with the final one of the year, they dub it the ticket, which means if you win this tournament, you're going to get money, but you also guarantee your playoff spot. So even if you have the worst record in the league, if you win this tournament, you're the eighth seed automatically. You're robbing someone's spot. We were on the outside looking in.

We were not playing well. Guys were not getting along. And then we started getting hot. We won two games in the regular season going into this ticket. And it was like, all right, let's see what happens. And we ran the table. Dude, I lost my voice. I was in the studio.

I was being played in front of a few hundred people. I lost my voice screaming. And we guaranteed our playoff ticket, won a bunch of money, and then ran the table in the playoffs. And won. Knocked off the one seed. So we're the eight seed. Team that was like 13-1.

That's very 99 Knicks-esque. Knocked them out. It was the lockout year. It doesn't really count, but they got in. And we closed. We swept in the finals. And our dudes made money. We won two tournaments.

Their base salary salary health insurance they they they made some real i mean they did well for themselves in year one and today they come back automatically or two is it just a whole nother draft no then it become no they then because of expansion like the brooklyn nets put in a team and uh the lakers and that we added new teams so there was an expansion draft we could only keep two players and then the rest of our guys go into the expansion and sure enough our finals mvp got taken by the brooklyn nets now it's like a storylines now now so you see what i mean the best way to think about it is traditional sports i know they're on a controller and i know it's hard to wrap your head around it but for me it played out that way and then we do

have to draft the guy the replacement guys who got taken in and are like, you know, like you're cool with all these kids? You kind of like love these guys. I don't want to say father figure, but you're like, you know, helping them grow. It's weird because like I said, they're all so young. Most of them don't even know what entourage is. Really? They know power.

Yeah. They don't know entourage because it's just age appropriate. And then they start like, I started that show Entourage. That show's good. I'm like, if you hit my day, number one show on cable in the summer. It's like an old head.

They call me old head. They call me old head. Damn, that's dirty, dude. You're not that old. Fuck. I love it. It's so fun. I didn't have any little brothers or sisters,

so this is it for me. What show do you like better? It's almost incomparable. I know this seems like I'm trying to get out of answering that question, but one's a half-hour comedy, one's like a gritty New York drama. Here's what I will say, and this might

not sound like it could be possibly true, but I've enjoyed Power more, and here's why. Because all throughout Entourage, I was just afraid it was going to get taken away. I was afraid we were going to get canceled. It was too good to be true. So I really was just holding on

so tight. It was hard. I think we talked about this on another time we did a pod or whatever. I enjoyed it year seven and eight because I'm like, all right, we're good now. We can breathe. But Power, I was so already dug in. I did it once like i really

got to enjoy power you know with a front row seat because i i'd sort of done it before and you know yeah i really got to enjoy it and it's full so uh that makes sense yeah but as far as what's better what do i love i it's it's like picking between kids man like yeah it's always choice type shit yes it's tough well i mean overall dude I'd say pretty good life so far I mean couple good shows now you're living out you're living out

you're living out like a video game dream that's kind of doubling as like a Knicks dream in a way I mean I have a championship ring that's a Knicks championship ring, technically. They made real rings.

Like, the company that made the Cavs ring in 16 made our rings. It's incredible. I could never wear it outside because it's gigantic, but... You should rock that. I might want...

If I find the perfect time to pair it with a good pair of shoes... Put on the hoop pajamas and the ring. Maybe when I win my Oscar. There you go. Full circle. And you got a beautiful wife and a new kid.

So things are going well for you, man. I'm trying, man. Just trying to stay, you know, whatever your version is of happy and content is what we're all just trying to get to. I know that sounds very. And you still got the good hairline, bro. You know what, though? I don't know why. I did think about you because you always managed to get that in on me.

It's got a good hair. It stayed like it's perfectly straight and stayed that way for a while but i will say i'm 39 i'm staring down 40 in november i saw it might have been from the power premiere last week i saw a video clip of the back uh-oh it's going again it's starting you got to get on like there's some scales and the drops and i'm short And I'm short, so it's very VLB. You'll see it. But the front, you'll never know a thing. But just don't look back here. It's happening.

You're a very strong man for even admitting that. I had a good run. I got nothing to complain about. Great run. 40 years. Great run. Thank you, bro. Appreciate it.

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