KFC Radio - The Stuality of Man: The 2 Sides to Stu Feiner - Inside Barstool

Episode Date: June 26, 2023

Timecodes: 0:00 Start 00:29 Stu's struggling with his father getting sick 07:44 Stu Insn't leaving any money for his kids 31:23 The Mets 48:18 Embarrassing his wife 56:16 Stu Hit On Tr...ump's Girlfriend 01:00:29 Stu thinks it's a red flag if girls wear perfume 01:03:56 Marriage struggles 01:06:54 Two For The Money (The movie based on Stu) 01:26:17 Balancing family and his brand ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Body Armor: Buy BODYARMOR Now on Amazon! BetterHelp: Visit BetterHelp.com/KFC today to get 10% off your first month.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/kfcr

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, KFC Radio listeners, you can find every episode of KFC Radio on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Like, I would take a s*** right on their desk when they walked in. Like, there's nothing I wouldn't do for a joke. Right on the f***ing desk. Literally pulled my f***ing pants down with my 5 and 7-8 inches. Everyone looking at it and just s*** it. Like, on command
Starting point is 00:00:25 in a circle like it's a living legend Stu Feiner back returning appearance for KFC radio man you scared the hell out of me this morning Stu let me tell you something so this is what happens
Starting point is 00:00:44 the song Monsters first of all by James Blunt the hell out of me this morning, Stu. Let me tell you something. So this is what happens, okay? The song Monsters, first of all, by James Blunt, is a deadly song. Kills you every time. So normally I start my day probably 4.45 a.m. I've got coffee. I have a half a banana. What time do you go to bed?
Starting point is 00:01:03 One. Wow, so you're just doing three, four hours a night of sleep? That's it? Yeah, and maybe I'll take a nap while I'm watching the sports. I fall asleep, so I'll get like an hour, maybe hour and a half nap. And maybe I'll take another hour nap because I'm home, so I have the luxury of that.
Starting point is 00:01:20 So, wake up, do my prayers, meditation, have a cup of coffee. And then, you know, how I work is I calibrate my day by flushing the past or what's severely bothering me in the past out. And specifically with my father, the dementia has gone to another level. It's one of the worst things right so i i i'm not prepared for that because um he's very lucid he's very smart he's always been intellectually smart um and then all of a sudden now you know in a moment it's not that way so so let's say he's at my house now for 10 hours, like five hours. I don't even know who he is.
Starting point is 00:02:07 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. And then now his arms are gone. So I have to like almost help him feed him. His legs are totally gone where he used to come to my house in a wheelchair and I'd put him next to the bathroom and he'd be able to manage. Now that's not the case. I can't even do that. I have to pick him up.
Starting point is 00:02:24 I have to put him on the toilet. I have to flush the toilet. He doesn't even know where he is certain times. I'll come in the bathroom where I have to wipe him, his ass, which is like I did it for my mother when she had cancer, but I think it's a totally different story for your mother than your father.
Starting point is 00:02:40 I don't know why, but it is. You're just not prepared. Your dad takes care of you, not the other way around. Yeah, so this morning, you know, and the way I listen to music is I watch YouTubes. I like to watch the video. I just sit at my desk and I watch it. And then, you know, this fucking monster song comes on with James Blunt. Was it on, it was on like Shuffle or you picked it up?
Starting point is 00:03:01 Exactly. Because sometimes people torture themselves and they want to cry and they want to get sad. Never. They pick out the song. Truth be told, I have no problem with crying. But I never want to cry. Like if I will do anything but not to cry. I smoke pot
Starting point is 00:03:18 most of my life to not feel those feelings. So you're talking about the feelings versus just actually, you're trying to stop from feeling sad. Right. Feeling that intense pain. Right. The pain.
Starting point is 00:03:31 Now, what I'm feeling with my father is hopelessness. Yeah. And we're not even talking about the pancreatic cancer that he has that's going to kill him. That's a cakewalk compared to this. Right. The dementia and his lack of ability and mobility is just, it's so sad and he's so proud. Yeah. So that I'm watching this song and it just fucking rocked me.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Mm-hmm. So I just, as I was fucking crying, I just clicked a little quick thing because I just, you know, to me, my fan base unconditionally loves me. Totally. I've taken a level above being a sports handicapper where people rely on my games, and if I lose, they're going to come at me. I don't get that no more. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:04:19 I was going to say the response was overwhelming because it was a little cryptic. You didn't say, I mean, I'm assuming most people knew something about your father. I thought he had passed. I didn't know. A lot of people thought he was passed. I had cousins call me and I'm like, don't you think I would call you before I post it up? Right, right.
Starting point is 00:04:35 But my son says, dad, you're 62. People have no idea what you say when you say it. Right. You think you do. You think you're coming across. You think that they're going to know what you're thinking they don't have to specifically i figured it was something with him and then i was happy to hear he had not passed but what you're describing in some ways you know maybe worse oh no it's listen listen i'm gonna my father comes over for three 10 hour stints a day
Starting point is 00:05:01 my son my um my third son r, picks him up twice a week. So he's covered like that. I'm going to do that to the day I die. Sure. It's horrific. Yeah. It would be much easier for him just passing. Right.
Starting point is 00:05:14 Because it's not actually my father no more. Right. You've already lost your dad. No, no, no. Now you're just taking care of his vessel. So we're with people Saturday. And we have so many people at the house all the time and they do not want to be filmed.
Starting point is 00:05:29 So it looks like I'm living in my house and no one's there. My wife doesn't want to be filmed. None of my son's friends, none of the people that come there, you know, whatever they're not really comfortable with my sexual innuendos. So they, you know,
Starting point is 00:05:42 they're not comfortable with it. They don't want to be hooked up and they have jobs that really, that just isn't going to fly and I smoke pot a lot on. So we're there. And he calls me out in front of the crowd. Like, hey, Stu, I've been asking for almost six months right now.
Starting point is 00:05:59 Where's the picture when we were at the 1994 Stanley Cup, when the Rangers won the Cup and Marc Messier came into the crowd picked me up and circled around with me holding me holding the cup where's the picture so i say dad i i you know i said i you know softly because the therapist taught me you cannot engage yeah you have to have you, complete sympathy and empathy. Sure. And you can't, you know, this is a, it's almost like a child, whatever. I'm like, I don't remember.
Starting point is 00:06:31 He's like, what do you mean you don't remember? And this is totally made up. Like, this never happened? We were, no. It happened, but there's, the picture. There was no, Mark Messier never died. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know who my father is.
Starting point is 00:06:40 Right, right, right, right. We're sitting in the second level. There was no, there was not like a like nothing happened that he didn't embellish there was no 100 so i went to a doctor to talk about is there any way to fix the dementia and they say no and then they explain how dementia works where that you take something that's factual in your mind and you can't connect the entire story so then something comes into your mind that you would like to have happened chills in the blanks like you fill it together and you double down on that story and so i've been caught in
Starting point is 00:07:11 those situations a lot and um my normal reaction would be what are you talking about like like what the fuck are you talking about and then do that can't do that. So you have to just go with it. But to go with it and then to keep embellishing the story that's fake is wild. You know, like you're so drained after it happens. I can't even imagine. You know what I mean? So, you know, listen, it's a normal occurrence in life. It happens to everybody.
Starting point is 00:07:43 That's what's tough. It's not unique. Right. But they don't prepare you for this. Yeah, right, right, right. You know what I mean? They really don't prepare you for this. Like in reality, people don't prepare people for life.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Right. You know what I'm saying? From kindergarten, we should be taught life is extremely hard, extremely difficult. People are not going to be genuine. They are not going to be genuous with you. They're going to be disingenuous. You think that early, though? From jump street? I feel like that might be a little bit much for a young kid.
Starting point is 00:08:13 No, because... Who still has a chance to... My thing with my kids is I want... You have... Let's say you're going to live 80 years. Without a doubt, 60, 65 of those years is going to be dealing with bullshit and assholes and stress.
Starting point is 00:08:31 And if I can squeeze out, instead of five years, you get seven. Instead of seven, you get 10. Instead of 10, you get 12 of innocence and happiness and you're not dealing with the bullshit and you're not looking through, you know, bitter jaded prism i want to try
Starting point is 00:08:46 to make that last as long as i can without raising by that you know then they turn 15 and they're like i'd have you know they're completely helpless because they were raised right but i think trying to push some of that off so that they can enjoy themselves and be a kid is is better than them i don't want my seven-year-old running around going, life's hard, this sucks, fuck you. You know? It is more real. I understand you're reading more realistic. How old are you?
Starting point is 00:09:10 I'm 38. Okay, so at 38, I agreed with you. 62? Totally different. Totally different. Interesting. Because what I'm seeing is that when people are 16, 17, 18 now,
Starting point is 00:09:22 they have like an entitlement. Oh, I don't know what to do. So this is a good question to ask you because I know you did well. And I think you also liked to spend it on fun things, lavish things, nice things for your family. I am so afraid of raising my kids to be spoiled. But at the same time, I don't want to like not – what's the point of making this money and doing all this work if you don't spend it on the family you love and do – and buy the nice things and go the extra mile? But even just – even the littlest bit of stuff that I'm giving them, they turn around and they forget their manners once or twice, three, four times, five, six times. All of a sudden sudden they sound entitled all this you know and it's like boy they
Starting point is 00:10:05 it just and i can't blame them because they've lived a fucking cushy life where everything they've needed has been taken care of and everything they want they usually get christmas is amazing and birthdays are amazing and all that and it's not like my i i never like it's not like i didn't get stuff when i was a kid and i most of the time my parents did get me all the stuff i wanted and did, but, but I don't know. There wasn't this like automatic. Yes.
Starting point is 00:10:28 I get whatever I want. Even right now, I texted you about the Taylor Swift tickets and you know, there are thousands. It would, it's idiotic for me to spend this money on a seven year old girl to go to a concert. But part of me is like, I got the money.
Starting point is 00:10:39 Should I just do it? You should do it. You think so? A hundred percent. No, too. I told you that when you texted me. You did.
Starting point is 00:10:44 You said, play through. I said, Stu, how do you get tickets? He said, pay through your ball sack. I spent at Jingle Ball 15 years ago, 20 years ago, $3,500 for the pair for my oldest
Starting point is 00:10:59 who wanted to see Jingle Ball. How old? Because I'm at seven. That's young, man. Twelve? How old? Because mine's seven. That's young, man. 12? 11? See, that's different.
Starting point is 00:11:09 12? What's the difference? Well, I'm just like... I took Sean to Bruce. I took Sean to... And they remember you and they love the memory. Yes, I took Sean to The Who
Starting point is 00:11:22 when they did Quadrophenia, came back for the tour when they did Tommy. He was seven, he was eight, he was nine. Wow. So let me just go back to your question. Yes, sir. So when you say spoil your child, okay,
Starting point is 00:11:35 how I've done it with my kids is I explain to them, I want to explain something to you. Daddy is not like everyone else. I make a hundred times more money than people. I don't know if you're ever going to be able to do what I do. I don't know if you're going to be as successful as I am. And for that matter, I'm not leaving you my money. I'm spending all my money. So when you watch these TV shows and you think I have money in the bank for you so that I'm paying for ABCDE and when I die, you're going to get this,
Starting point is 00:12:16 you're getting nothing. And you're getting sweat and blood. You really mean that? Yeah. I'm going to spend every fucking penny I got or I'm going to give it away to the less fortunate. Really? So what I –
Starting point is 00:12:28 Like you paid for college, you're doing that kind of shit or no? I paid for their college. But that was it. Okay. That's a big thing. Yeah. No, no. A lot of people don't have that luxury.
Starting point is 00:12:41 Well, Sean was the biggest one because he went to Brown. Yeah. A lot of people don't have that luxury. Well, Sean was the biggest one because he went to Brown. But also what I taught them is that because you're getting these things from me that you may never be able to give to your kids. And you may never be able to give to yourself because I'm an anomaly. Just because you see rich people out there just like what you are now. You know, they're never guaranteed that. Right. You could be very successful and still not make that kind of money.
Starting point is 00:13:06 What I teach them is, and I've always instilled this in them, your goal in life as a human being, as a successful human being, is to help the less fortunate than yourself. And I was taught this in the Overeaters Anonymous rooms when I was 22, 23, 24, that the only way that you can get out of yourself and to really feel productive about yourself is help the less fortunate. Because I'm smarter than someone else, because I'm more successful than someone else, because I have more money than someone else does not mean I'm any better than
Starting point is 00:13:45 the hobo in the street. My cousins ended up being drunks and ended up living at Penn Station. And they lived there. And we used to go to these concerts and I would walk past them. They wouldn't even know who I was, but they were fucking there.
Starting point is 00:14:02 Wait, did you ever try to help them? Yeah, I put them in rehabs. They just never took it. You reached a point where you were did you ever try to help them? Yeah. Sometimes I went early. Yeah, I put them in rehabs. They just never took. You reached a point where you're like, I can't help them. Well, no. Some people are incapable of being honest with themselves, and they're gone. And they died very young.
Starting point is 00:14:15 So, alcoholism. But I also instilled in them that you have an inherent obligation and responsibility to help that fucking person you're not better than them you're never better than them that's why I don't actually believe in full socialism but this
Starting point is 00:14:38 let's say New York State let's say New York City there are so many homeless people that people are like fuck it I don't want them living in a fucking hotel that doubles my hotel right now I don't want to be around this they consider
Starting point is 00:14:52 it this scum I'm like every human should be the same the government there has to be a catch a failsafe for the people that are born with afflictions with no confidence that are never gonna be able to get out of their own way that we're not supposed to piss on them so that's why i truly
Starting point is 00:15:11 believe that the the super rich i and i know people hate this they should have an obligation to give some of their money to help yeah If all the rich people in the world, in this country, in this state, in this city, in this town, just gave 10% of their fucking wealth to helping people. Now, and it has to be monitored, and I'm not talking about them getting hustled
Starting point is 00:15:37 or robbed or scammed, like you give it to a charity and then you find out the guy who's promoting the charity gets 50% of the money and then only 6% is actually going. I'm talking real, real straight up. I've always instilled that in them.
Starting point is 00:15:52 I'm with that. Yeah, I think that too. And how young did you have this conversation? Day one, Jump Street. But like 6, 5, 10? Anything I've ever brought them to. My son was born Christmas Eve and at the time we raised him Jewish. I raised the first two kids Anything I've ever brought them to. Say that, yeah. My son was born Christmas Eve. And at the time, we raised him Jewish.
Starting point is 00:16:11 I raised the first two kids Jewish because my mother was like, gotta raise him Jewish. If you don't raise him Jewish, Hitler's gonna come back in this country. You gotta perpetuate the race. It's so little Jews. People hate Jews. They call us Christ killers. And then you took your talents to Catholicism? You switched over like LeBron?
Starting point is 00:16:24 Well, I married Irish Catholic, first of all. Right, right. And once my mother passed, then the other two, I raised nothing. Because I wasn't... I hated Judaism. I hated religion. Who needs to be... When I moved here, people hated Jews. I moved here in 1970. It was a complete
Starting point is 00:16:40 horror show. So from Jump Street, even when they were three four years old i anything so my point with my son is i used to take him because his his he was born christmas eve and we celebrated christmas so his holiday was his birthday was outshone by jesus you know so that morning christmas morning i'd you know, I did it when he was five, six,
Starting point is 00:17:07 seven, eight, nine, two limos, front of my house, 12 friends. We go right to FAO Schwartz. I give my son 2000.
Starting point is 00:17:16 I give each kid 500. I get the personal shoppers. We get all the fucking toys. Yeah. We dump them in the limo car. They drive, the limos drive them back to my house. After they drop us off at, let's say, Jekyll and Hyde's, ESPN.
Starting point is 00:17:29 Yeah, the ESPN. We eat, and then we go to see a play. We either see The Christmas Carol, we see Les Mis, we see Miss Saigon. Incredible. And stuff like that. So I would have meetings with the group, and I would tell everyone, this is not reality. I have been humbly blessed. I doubt if you're ever going to be able to do one.
Starting point is 00:17:48 You may never do this in your entire fucking life. Or I could do this on a daily basis. So I tried to instill that from Jump Street with anybody. I coach sport. I coach baseball, football, basketball, soccer. I coached my 33-year-old. I coached my 31-year-old. I coached my 28-year-old. And then I coached-year-old. I coached my 28-year-old.
Starting point is 00:18:05 And then I coached only my 23-year-old one year because I ran out of money and I was balls broke and had to really go back to work. So he didn't get the Stu Fein show. But any time I coached, that was my fucking story. I'm like, listen, I'm not really a great coach. I know you guys want to swim in my pool. I'm going to make burgers. We're going to go to, we're going to go to KB toys and buy everybody toys.
Starting point is 00:18:29 I bought everybody weights, taught him because I was with Steve Mihalik, taught him how to work out. But I instilled in these people that you have to help the less fortunate. So in other words, that's always my message to everyone. So that would combat you spoiling someone because you would say this, you would say to your your child, here's how I'm going to show my love. It's I can do it with a financial gift. 99% can't do this.
Starting point is 00:18:58 You're probably never going to be able to do it. So I want you to not only appreciate this, but maybe the people that can't afford taylor swift you're going to buy 20 shirts and you're going to go into fucking school and give everybody a fucking taylor swift shirt and you're going to tell them about the experience and they're going to feel like they were there they're never going to tell her but they got the shirt they know someone that got the shirt and the crumbs rub off i mean it's it's very admirable and it's awesome so but i'm saying it works like your your kids are all great well listen they're all still alive right they haven't you know they're
Starting point is 00:19:30 not in jail you know they haven't committed a crime they i get worried i mean i wonder if times are different to at all with just the way the internet and the world is like, I get worried that like trying to have conversations about like money with my kids turns into like, they can't articulate it correctly to their friends. So they, they go into school and they say like, well, my dad says he makes more money than your dad.
Starting point is 00:19:56 When, what I was trying to say is everything you described, but my kids say it wrong or the teachers hear this and the parents hear this. You can articulate it. You can share it. You have to actually, you have the other day she said something um she wasn't talking about taylor swift but she was talking about something else that she oh birthdays birthday parties and she was like for my birthday which is not for a while but should i do it here or there
Starting point is 00:20:20 one was like at home and one was like rent out of place and i was like you know whatever you want baby you know it's your birthday you deserve it and she said something like well but like the the one costs money and i said that's not for you to worry about she goes but what happens if we end up you know and i said what and she goes p-o-o-r but and i was like where the fuck is this coming from you know like i haven't had a talk with her like that. And I guess now's the time if she's hearing these things. But I'm like, where are you hearing that you're going to end up poor if we have a birthday party for you? Because, you know, but even little things. How much do I give you for the tooth fairy?
Starting point is 00:20:55 How much do I give you for allowance? You know, the new video game comes out. Should I buy that for him? The tickets are crazy expensive. Should I buy them? Or, you know, what I was thinking for Taylor Swift was what if I just, I got a, I bought a big inflatable projector screen and a projector. And I was like, why don't you invite your friends over to my house?
Starting point is 00:21:12 And in the backyard at night, we'll have a Taylor Swift concert. Because even if you do go, you're not going with your friends. I can't afford barely two tickets, let alone 10, like, you know, for everybody. So why don't we just do that? And you have a fun moment there and it's kind of much more appropriate and and i just don't know i'm just trying to navigate all of these things you know it's it's not an easy there is there is no right or wrong right there is no right or wrong answer it's just a matter of what i did yeah yeah you know what i'm saying yeah you know and they could it's an interesting i didn't know you did that that's a very interesting approach
Starting point is 00:21:41 you know like in their mind they could shut me out too. Yeah. They hated. I'm telling you, when they were young and I brought like a lot of people over, but they didn't like a lot of the kids because they weren't cool. They weren't good at sports. They weren't smart. Right. Why are they even here? You know, I would have that conversation with them all the time.
Starting point is 00:22:03 I'm like, because I want them here. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? That's what I want to instill the most. I want them here. I would have that conversation with them all the time. I'm like, because I want them here. That's what I want to instill the most. I want them here. It's not you to tell me. They didn't like it. They don't like the big show. They never did. None of my kids still do. They don't like the Stu Feiner show. They don't
Starting point is 00:22:17 like it. They don't like that I'm very inclusive. I want everyone in. It's almost like Springsteen. If everyone doesn't win, no one wins. And I really always believe that. I always believe that. The more I see you struggle, the more I am attracted to you.
Starting point is 00:22:37 The more I see your need, the more I want to help anyone. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to treat Dave Portnoy the same way I treat the guy who cleans the fucking garbage here. I mean, that's very not... You know, you try to help Frank lose weight and you're bringing these guys along. Because there is no difference.
Starting point is 00:22:54 One, you know, because someone's smarter and has been able to play the system and is world-renowned, they're no better than the guy that's in the fucking gutter. They're no better. Right, right. The society is going to tell you they're no better than the guy that's in the fucking gutter they're no better right right the society is going to tell you they're better you want to be attracted to the
Starting point is 00:23:11 winner of course just human nature right right but the winners should in reality all their whole focus should be pick up the losers now you have people say fuck that are you out of your mind i got i came from nothing and i built this and i'm this no one gave me shit stew right my father's like yeah but why do you want more people to yeah like the people say that it's like so you just want the people to struggle just as much as you did rather than fucking helping them out well i'll be honest with you crazy in my experience and i know a lot of rich people, even before Dave became epic, they're scumbags. Yeah. Dave is not. You almost got to be.
Starting point is 00:23:51 Dave is not. But they're scumbags. They don't give a flying – they want to be disassociated with their past. It was like, I used to be that and I'm never going to be that again. It's almost like if you watch Succession. Yeah, no. Like a lot of – like Art watch succession yeah no like a lot of like art imitates life a lot of that is true you could say well my life isn't that fucked up but
Starting point is 00:24:10 though that's how rich people are so insecure about it too so that's how they are because if you're a scumbag you don't trust you have no trust you have you know if you're fucking people your whole life and that's how you made it, you don't trust anybody. Right, because you got fucked and you're passing it on. Right, right. Because someone's got to break that cycle. I really do believe and I know people hate to hear it but like the idea of more money, more problems or money doesn't buy happiness, there really is something to it. It's not that the struggle is the same, but there are just new problems and issues and hurdles that you have to tackle
Starting point is 00:24:51 when you have more money than the average people. And it's not like I would trade it or anything. And of course, it's a better problem to have. But it's not just like everything's easy all of a sudden. Nothing is ever easy. Nothing is ever easy. Nothing is ever easy. Nothing is ever easy. I like what you said when I texted you this morning after seeing that video.
Starting point is 00:25:13 And you said, I show both sides of it. I don't show just the good. I'm not a phony. I think so many people forget on social media that you're only seeing their trip to Dubai with their sugar daddy. They're not showing you that they're crying at night because they're alone and all they have is their looks or their money or their travel or their sex or their show or whatever. And I think if more people showed that.
Starting point is 00:25:37 Now, what you were showing was everyone can empathize with that. Pain of losing family members is like, yeah, we get that. But if more people showed like you know yeah like i got this money but like man it fucking crushes me when i don't have all the time in the world my kids or you know i'm still fighting this and dealing with that and but then i also go back to like this is none of these fucking people's business this is all this is all my me and my family and shit that like i you know so fuck everybody else and what they think about you so i go back and forth on that because it's like
Starting point is 00:26:10 yes i believe what you're saying help the other people but in the process of include being so inclusive you're also dealing with and allowing in all these fucking other assholes and people who it's like why do you why do you have any bearing on my life? Well, I mean it goes both ways. This show is sponsored by BetterHelp. It's so easy to get caught up in what everyone else needs from you and never take a moment to think about what you need from yourself. But when we spend all of our time giving,
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Starting point is 00:27:32 That's BetterHelp, H-E-L-P dot com slash KFC. How you doing, babe? I'm doing amazing. Are we over there? Are we good, Nick? Yeah, we're good. Okay, so we're doing something a little interesting because last time you and I spoke, Stu, it was in the middle of the...
Starting point is 00:27:48 You smell fabulous. Oh, thank you. Thank you. I said the same. I'm trying to make believe I'm a player again. What do you mean make believe? You are one. They want me to lose.
Starting point is 00:27:59 So I went from 216 this time around. My highest is 262. My lowest is 139. When were you 139? That's a swing. As an adult or as a kid? 139, I was... I was 139.
Starting point is 00:28:13 I was 21, 22, 23. That's still like, you know, you were... Yeah. You're a man. But 29 years old, I was 148. Did you see the picture I posted online? No. I saw one where you jacked up. Yeah. I mean posted online? No. I saw what you jacked up.
Starting point is 00:28:26 Yeah. I mean, I've seen you in your old age. Well, you've seen the picture with Erica's head. Yeah, yeah. That's me. That's so weird. I've always been just like generally this. That's not a swing where you're.
Starting point is 00:28:39 That's 9% body fat. Here is. Crazy. Here's 3%. Yeah, I saw that percent yeah 140 pounds so me and my brother used to go to bars and not no one knew you know i would wear like some sort of basic like really big shirt and a disguise like so many brothers and he would go i bet you this guy right now can do 500 push-ups 500 sit-ups in seven minutes so he would'd have a hat around. People would put in a dollar, three dollars,
Starting point is 00:29:06 five dollars. We'd get a hundred bucks, two hundred bucks, maybe at the best ever, four hundred bucks. And I would fucking bang it out like it's fucking butter. Not even bring a sweat. I have hundreds a lot, dude. We used to do exactly that with my little sister when she was a child.
Starting point is 00:29:22 When Neely was like seven. To pimp out our seven year old daughter. We'd go like, we'd take family vacations. When she was seven, I was probably 14, 15, something like that. And we'd take family vacations in Martha's Vineyard and we'd sit in Oak Bluffs, Oak Bluffs Harbor. And we'd just sit by the boats
Starting point is 00:29:39 and we'd have a hat out exactly like you and we would see like older men walking by. I bet you could do more pushups than you. And then my little sister would just fucking start cranking pushups and they'd have a hat out exactly like you, and we would see older men walking by. I bet you could do more push-ups than you. And then my little sister would just fucking start cranking push-ups, and they'd throw a couple bucks in the hat. We'd get ice cream. If you're in shape and you know how to do push-ups, for example, I could train you to do push-ups.
Starting point is 00:29:55 You could do 500. You would say, there's no way, but it's not that fucking hard. You know what I'm saying? Like with planks, I could hold a plank for 30 straight fucking minutes. Really? But again, you would have to be trained to do that. Yeah. you know what I'm saying like with planks I could hold a plank for 30 straight fucking minutes really but again but again you would have to be trained to do that
Starting point is 00:30:09 yeah like I was trained by a fucking psycho like how many people but what's the I mean like yes maybe you have to
Starting point is 00:30:15 like learn how to flex or whatever but it's basically the idea he was Mr. America Mr. Universe so he trained me mentally
Starting point is 00:30:21 it's mental the whole thing's mental has nothing to do with physical has nothing to do with strength it has to do with your mental ability and he was a fucking psycho so what does he tell you when like the feeling of getting tired is not really real your muscles are fine and like you need to just block that out of your brain so what like so for example he would we normally would would warm up and do like 25 to 50 reps so he would go give me 50 i bang him out give me another would go, give me 50. I'd bang him out. Give me another 50.
Starting point is 00:30:46 I'd bang him out. Give me another 50. Bang him out. And then I'd be like, I can't do it no more. He goes, listen, I'm Mr. America, Mr. fucking Universe. I drove from fucking Manhattan, 40 minutes in fucking traffic. You don't fucking tell me anything. You fucking do what I tell you to do.
Starting point is 00:31:00 And the fear got into my head. And then after it was over, I would do like a thousand reps. And he would say, I didn't mean to be abusive because he was. Because I was afraid for my life. Like literally, he could kill me, like snap my neck. And he would say that mentally, you limit yourself. Right. Not me, you.
Starting point is 00:31:28 So don't ever tell me no. I would never ask you to do something that you can't do. Stu, I think you were his hoe. What? Maybe. Maybe. Baby, don't make me. Baby, don't make me.
Starting point is 00:31:42 You know I don't want to treat you like that. Wait, let me just get this out of the way first. Okay, so here's these. Oh, this is from Pete. This is from Pete. So these are all for you. So I want to talk about that. This is all for you.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Thank you, brother. We'll get this out of the way first, then we'll talk about everything. Now, what is your girlfriend's name again? I'm sorry. Well, I don't really know. Okay, I'm so sorry. Okay, no names.
Starting point is 00:32:04 I'm sorry. All right, so't really know. Okay, I'm so sorry. Okay, no names. I'm sorry. All right, so, but I got these for her. So, the first. And then the second. Is that upside down? Stunation? Stunations. And then this new world religion, Steve Mahalik.
Starting point is 00:32:35 And then promises made, promises delivered. Yes. So yes, he has all these. So in it is like a little teeny tiny bat. There's a baseball card. I love it. There's sunglasses. I love it. There's sunglasses. I love it.
Starting point is 00:32:47 And there's all sorts of stuff. So, you know. The Pete sunglasses are pretty cool. Keegan and Shay are going to fucking love. You know, love, love, love. These are the Alhans. But you say they're online. Oh, yeah. I didn't.
Starting point is 00:32:55 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, good, good, good. So, we went last night. We were on the Craig and Evan show, me and Tank, early. And we talked on the radio. Now, the original plan, let's say a month ago, six weeks ago, they approached Tank and they loved Tank. They said, you're going to be able to do five to ten minutes. Evan and Robert.
Starting point is 00:33:16 Craig. Craig caught specifically. Like, Craig and Evan were not doing this on behalf of the Mets or anything, right? Because the Mets don't love. This is the second annual Peter Alonzo charity event. Right. So they're the ones doing the inviting. The Mets love Evan.
Starting point is 00:33:31 Evan is the biggest Mets fan ever. But Frank... Well, last year they had no problem with Frank. They had 101 games. I think it's crazy that Pete does this in the middle of the season. Because you run the risk of this. I think it's crazy that Pete does this in the middle of the season because you run the risk of this.
Starting point is 00:33:46 Well, Pete got hurt. He's out for five weeks. So he's in a cast. He got an injury. The Mets have been underachieved. They just lost two out of three to the Pirates. They got swept by the Braves. They got swept by the Blue Jays.
Starting point is 00:34:01 And it's like, oh, shit. And now you're going to get up there and have frank like bash the team every play every so i haven't last night so yeah so so every uh so what happened was so they reach out to frank because you know frank's hide he's getting fucking 5 million to 20 million views a week uh you know 40 million impressions whatever and he loves the mets he's passionate plus he's a he's a customer he buys season tickets tickets every year. So he goes to 20 to 40 games every year. So that's money. You need a thousand
Starting point is 00:34:30 people like him. Ten thousand, whatever. So Craig comes up with an idea because they like Frank the Tank because he's so passionate. And they say you could do a song. So Tank came up with the song, We Didn't Start the Fire from Billy Joel.
Starting point is 00:34:45 And he literally wrote it out. It was amazing. He came up with it, I believe. Amazing. It was like the version of Frank that's not crazy and he had all these rhymes that fit the scheme of We Didn't Start the Fire, but
Starting point is 00:35:01 for the Mets. So then the Mets went in the toilet, Alon the Mets. And it was good. So then P.S. What happened was the Mets went in the toilet. Alonzo got injured. And there was a major sentiment that they didn't even want him to do anything. So what they did is Craig called him and said, you got to calm it down. It has to be almost vanilla. You cannot get ugly at all. So that's what happened.
Starting point is 00:35:20 They brought him up. He was booed at the beginning a little bit. And he did a couple of minutes. Did this happen last night? Last night, yeah. The Mets are always pleasing, never pleasing. That's like his big line. Right.
Starting point is 00:35:30 Last year, every New York Met was there but DeGrom and Alonso. Everybody. The place was humming because we were in first place by eight games. This, compared to that, this was a funeral and not a party. Well, that's why. Wait, so did something happen? Like, it feels like a funeral right now. Did, like, Frank get in trouble or something?
Starting point is 00:35:50 No, no. No. Craig Carton told him you can't shred. He had amazing shred material. Yeah. So they vanilla-ed him completely. He was allowed to tell soft jokes. He alluded to, so Vogelback has not played well.
Starting point is 00:36:05 And particularly, he just doesn't swing the bat. He goes down looking all the time. And so Frank has said, listen, I'm a fat guy who can just stand in the box and watch pitches go by. So he said something like that. He was like, when I was 10 years old, I had a dream of being a baseball player and I never thought I could. But, hey, I don't play the field and I can just watch pitches go by.
Starting point is 00:36:24 I'll be the designated watcher and and like people figured out you know they they realized he was alluding to a lot uh to Vogelback like he was not allowed it was like groans people were like oh but wait this was but I'm thinking like if I'm creating so hard I can't imagine being there I can't imagine that they like Pete like I'm sure they're like, oh, hey, what's up, Pete? Cool, man. You gave my number one fucking hater who publicly campaigns for me to lose my job. You gave him a platform last night. Thanks, dude.
Starting point is 00:36:55 That's exactly the key. You see, that's the key. And in this day and age now, bad press is bad. I was a kid and I was growing up. And in the 90s, bad press was great. Doesn't matter. Spell my name right. You could say I'm a pedophile even.
Starting point is 00:37:09 Spell my fucking name right. But now, that's not the case. Bad press is death. And exactly what you said. Frank has an edge where he's not saying, I wish they did better. I'm hoping. He tortures people to a level that he says they should be fired
Starting point is 00:37:27 Billy Eppler your GM you suck you should lose your job Buck Scholder you should be fired Lindor you're getting paid 300 million to bat 219 you robbed us the problem is he did all of that same shit
Starting point is 00:37:43 forever if you're going to do that when they win 101 I don't necessarily But the problem is he did all of that same shit. Forever. Last year. Forever. If you're going to do that when they win 101. There is a difference though. I don't necessarily condone. Like even I used to do it like fire this person, fire that person. And then when you start to learn that the internet like has some power and you actually might end up getting fired.
Starting point is 00:37:59 You could influence. I don't like to really call for jobs anymore. But you want to be a negative fan? Like okay fine. But do it like this a negative fan? Like, okay, fine. But do it like this year when Verlander has like a 6 ERA when shit's bad. But when you do the exact same thing when you also want 101, it's like, well, I can't even tell. Was this this season or last season?
Starting point is 00:38:16 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's crazy to not be able to tell the difference because these two seasons are wildly different. Well, but a lot of people are saying Frank is right. See, he's so right. Like Billy Epler now has got exposed where last year he was, we won 101 games. Every move he made, every player that they traded that we got players has backfired. There's not one good move he made.
Starting point is 00:38:39 Yeah, but every non-move he made was great. Everybody we let go sucks. Yeah, but he doesn't look at it. I'm not saying that he's right, but I'm saying that a lot of fans are on Frank's side right now. So wait. To the point.
Starting point is 00:38:56 Steve Cohen sits in the middle of the pack, 15 rows back, no security, no nothing. He's a $12 billion guy. So at the end of it, Frank comes up to him and says, Steve, can I get a picture? Now, meanwhile, Steve took 1,000 fucking pictures because I was watching him. He literally says to Frank, no. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:18 I got to go. And he's walking away. And he turns to Frank. He goes, and you better be nice to us. And walks away. walking away and he turns to Frank he goes and you better be nice to us and walks away it was like my mouth was open like first of all
Starting point is 00:39:34 I'm thinking the place has like security and snipers on the top because if anybody fucks with a 12 billion dollar guy they're gonna get shot but it was very uncomfortable it was so uncomfortable Frank It was so uncomfortable. Frank is not like... There are scenes where other barstool people
Starting point is 00:39:52 or other fans on the internet who are maybe negative or whatever meet the players, meet the owners, meet the team, and it's all in good fun, kind of, or it's like, hey, I get it. You're just so passionate. Those guys do not like Frank. I go back and forth.
Starting point is 00:40:08 I don't have a definitive take on it because I actually – like I would not be able to do that. And I don't have the passion that Frank does where like I kind of understand it's a game and it's whatever. And like I get very sad when my team loses, but then in a week I bounce back and I go about my life. So if I met a player, I have never had a player who I hate to the level of Frank.
Starting point is 00:40:35 I hate everybody. But if I met someone I didn't like, I'd be like, what's up, man? How you doing? And they probably would do the same back to me because I don't have that much visual on the internet. It's kind of one of those things where it's like, I got a job to do, I got to speak for the fans, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:40:49 And I like... We just want you to play well, that sort of shit. I like both sides. Not like, I understand both sides. I understand someone like me who'd be like, yeah, we're just fucking, we're making... I'm doing entertainment. I'm just being entertaining, like,
Starting point is 00:41:03 I bust my balls, whatever. I also respect the fact that Frank will get there and be like, I fucking don't like you. You fucking suck. Like, I got to tip my cap to that, man. Yeah, the only thing I'll say is that I can't – the only thing I hate is, like I said, the internet has influence. And, like, you – when you are I think our fan base
Starting point is 00:41:26 is awful and I would never want to come here if I was a free agent because of shit like that and I think that a lot of people are just all about the money or a lot of people don't listen to the internet or whatever but when people talk about the New York media the New York media sucks because they like to get their clicks and they get their clicks by playing
Starting point is 00:41:43 people like Frank and people who think like him so everything's negative all the time and i'm like i think you're actively making the the fan base the franchise worse i think you're you're a detriment even in a small way and so shut the fuck up because you're making it you know when you're harder when you're in a world like that i i i wholly understand because i had it a bit with... When you're disappointed in the fanbase and you think he's kind of driving the fanbase, I had it with I obviously don't know much about the Mets, but the Bruins
Starting point is 00:42:14 with Tuka Rask. I was like, he's a fucking great goalie. You're affecting him mentally. Just stop doing that. He won the Vezina! What are you fucking talking about? He won the Vezina last year. you're affecting him mentally. Just stop doing that. This guy sucks.
Starting point is 00:42:27 He won the Vezina. What are you fucking talking about? He won the Vezina last year. He won 40 games. They lost in game seven of the Stanley Cup Finals. Yes, it stinks, but he's fucked. Stop saying he sucks. And also wait until, you know, if you want to say the Mets suck now,
Starting point is 00:42:41 like, yeah, go ahead. Last year, there was never a time they sucked. It was like you were always overreacting. It's a little bit the boy who cried wolf. And then think about it. I used to go to games, like when the Mets played the Yankees, and I used to literally sit first row and literally yell at them, you're a fucking loser.
Starting point is 00:42:58 I'll fuck your mother, you scumbag. Hey, after this game, you're going to abhor him? Now fuck it. And it was legal. Everyone did it. No one cared. So now, the player himself
Starting point is 00:43:13 was desensitized because they were taught, don't listen to anything they say. They're going to say the worst thing in the world, but now it's legal. You're going to hear it at the game. You're going to hear it for nine innings. Also, that's pretty extreme, and you know these guys are all talk and all that shit.
Starting point is 00:43:30 But now you go home, and it's on 24-7. But now it's illegal. It's illegal to say you're threatening somebody. Yes, yes. I think hearing boos and fuck your mother from the crowd I think is easier to tune out than every day outside of the park. I go on the internet. I want to go on Instagram. The internet made everything change.
Starting point is 00:43:52 Fucking get in your head and the roots of your family. Now all of a sudden Frank and his fans are like, not Frank himself, but those disciples are like talking shit to Lindor's wife. And she's like, you know, what the fuck? That kind of stuff where it's like, what are we doing here? But I mean, listen, Frank is a fucking open book. So like they knew what they're getting involved with.
Starting point is 00:44:15 The only reason Frank has a job here is because his New York Met rant when the subway he missed because it was so heavy. He couldn't fucking get to the New Jersey train in time and he missed opening day. So I mean, that's literally his MO so yeah you know you know what you're getting into you like literally there was no fucking surprise with him at all right right so that was you know that was that and then before um i was just talking before you came in um today my first um comedy
Starting point is 00:44:41 show goes on sale um it sucks because i'm doing the same night you're doing, July 13th. July 13th at my father's place, I'm doing comedy. Stand-up? My first stand-up, my first ever. My first ever stand-up. And then under me, I'm going to have Tank, Duggs, and Jakes do like a warm-up.
Starting point is 00:45:02 Are you going to have like a routine? Well, what I just explained to Fights is that are you going to have like a routine or are you just going to get a pair of shoes what I just what I just explained to fights is that I'm going to tell a story of my entire life hell yeah
Starting point is 00:45:11 demean myself make fun of myself because my life is a fucking joke and that's my comedy you can't do that in a night though you need to do
Starting point is 00:45:19 like no I could I could bang I could I'm going to talk for three fucking hours like I'm on an eight bowl of Coke.
Starting point is 00:45:25 Like literally. People are like, is this guy on Coke? No, he's on three cups of Stella Blue a day. That's fucking it. That's Stu Feiner. I said I wanted to do that with you the way. There's a comedian, Ryan Sickler, who's doing Joey Diaz's life story. Right.
Starting point is 00:45:40 Well, in like one like tonight, today's podcast is going to be from like 1972 to 1976 and then next week we'll do this and that and it's going to be like his whole life story I could listen to it and be in honor to do that
Starting point is 00:45:50 yeah let's do it but yeah but to try to do that in one night is well I'm going to have to pick highlights
Starting point is 00:45:55 I'm going to have to well I'm going to have to condense it well that's what I love so when you came in a couple weeks ago it was in the middle of the dozen tournament
Starting point is 00:46:01 and it was just me because John had to go and we started talking about like fatherhood and kids and intense life, really real life stuff. It was the duality of Stu, the Stu-ality. Like I,
Starting point is 00:46:14 I almost feel in my head, I was thinking people are going to say, oh shit, Stu and KFC radio. These guys are gonna be talking about, you know, licking Clinton fucking ass and stuff. And then I was like,
Starting point is 00:46:24 what the conversation was great, but I was like, oh, people are going to be like,icking Clinton fucking ass and stuff. And then I was like, what the conversation was great, but I was like, Oh, people are going to be like, feel sandbagged a little bit. So I was like, you know what? Let's get part two in here and just talk to Stu about,
Starting point is 00:46:33 you know, have you ever seen a fucking horse, fuck a woman in a sex club or something like that? Right. So, uh, right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:41 Well, I got a pro, I, you know, that, that's you, that you are that I think I'm everything. I mean, I'm, you know, that's you. You are that. Well, I'm everything.
Starting point is 00:46:47 But I think when people learn the other sides of you is when you really get the full stew effect. Because like Frank and his rants or anything on the internet, you can see that and be entertained. Like, oh, shit, ready to roll. Mulch is here. But then when you find out, you know, every time I hear your son is is you know valedictorian and and running that business what was the new news he did something he just he uh food truck he's got this food truck company and everyone's like you know you think it's like all a joke and it's like no this is a real life and a real family and real success and it's like oh and then it makes it even more fun
Starting point is 00:47:18 to laugh along because it's not just like i don't know he's just a crazy person it's like this guy who's you know know, having fun. The key here is that I'm 62 years old. No one here is 62. I'm like the oldest stoolie, and I'm the only person working at Barstool by far. Like there's nobody near me. Like maybe large is 50.
Starting point is 00:47:36 I got 12 fucking, you know, I was 12 years old. You know, I already, you know, jerked off, you know, jerked off to fucking Playboy a thousand times before the guy was born. So in other words, you know, so I have. So in other words, I have a lot. When did you first jerk off, Stu? Sixth grade with Pond's cold cream. And I fogged up my bathroom.
Starting point is 00:47:55 And I'll never forget it because the Pond's cold cream. Is that like Vicks? Is that what that is? No, it's to take off makeup. But in those days, there was no lotion. There was nothing. I didn't know what to do. You're a wet guy.
Starting point is 00:48:08 So Pond's cold cream. And what it did is it covered the top of my penis so like it didn't come out. Like cake to hold? Literally, it stopped it. So when it blew, it blew. It was fucking great.
Starting point is 00:48:20 Like a cartoon stick of dynamite? Right, like literally. It backfired? Literally. So the segue, what we were talking about, you know, to get like a little down and dirty and raunchy here was that. So I do a podcast now with my son. It's called Only Stew.
Starting point is 00:48:34 And it's me and my son, Alex, my 32-year-old. And then he runs the business with me. So he never heard this, but when we were young, the podcast, literally, it's very uncomfortable for my wife. Sure. Like insane, like she's retiring June 29th. But you want to hear something wild? She's worked at this place 13 years.
Starting point is 00:49:00 She's the accounting clerk for the New Hyde Park School District. Now I can say it because she's retiring. Okay. I have never been to her office. Never. First five years, she didn't want to tell me where it was. Because she has a job where she has a $4 million a month payroll. She's paying all the bills.
Starting point is 00:49:20 She signs off on a check. Two certified accountants have to sign after her. Because the person prior to her, she got the job, robbed the fucking place for $12 million. And so she's in an elite level position. Not that she gets paid a ton. She doesn't. But her position is very like, there's no way. If they knew her husband is on the internet going, let's fuck eat ass LeClerc, she loses a job.
Starting point is 00:49:42 Plus, she's Irish Catholic and she's pretty conservative. She thinks I'm a fucking scum. She thinks that this is the lowest form of life. And Irish Catholic people in general, the reason I married Irish Catholic is those to me are the most trustworthy people in the fucking world. But they're very conservative. Everything's close to their vest. They don't tell you they got problems because it's none of your business and they're overly sensitive to being embarrassed where i'm a fucking embarrassment and unless you're a liberal or unless you get me you know
Starting point is 00:50:17 you just you get me you know you could watch what you know you could be mortified like my favorite moment ever was at your big uh summertime bash when you were like god bless her she's so nice she's so amazing for putting up with me i mean honestly somebody should kill me somebody fucking kill me so she doesn't have to deal with me anymore but that's but you know it's partially true you know what i'm saying like like she's like she's made total compromises to stay married to me so what do you think
Starting point is 00:50:46 were you you were always gotta have been a crazy guy no wish about it no choice about it so she knew what she was getting into
Starting point is 00:50:53 she liked the bad boys she liked the but the world wasn't able to see every day I take a shit I eat egg beater you know
Starting point is 00:51:01 I'm screaming because in other words when I'm saying let's fuck eat ass people must think that she's a fucking whore. You know what I mean? Like, Stu's talking about banging girls up their ass and you're his wife. So is Stu doing that to you?
Starting point is 00:51:14 You know, people, people like, because I'm so good at when I throw something, they don't realize certain times, of course, it's performative. And I, and I have a creative license to say anything. And I have the balls to say anything. And then, you know, then where's the line? What are we doing here? You know, like what's going on? You don't know. But that's exactly part of my game.
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Starting point is 00:52:56 Must be 21 or older to purchase. Please use responsibly. So we do the podcast with Alex. It's only Stu. And I'm running the other day. And there's a girl like 40 yards away. And, you know, we're men. We're whores.
Starting point is 00:53:13 So we could tell a snapping pussy from 40 yards away. Like you could tell when someone is drunk. You know, you could fucking tell. Like I can eye someone up whether they're 500 pounds or 140 pounds, and I can tell if they give a great blowjob, if they like it up the ass, or if they're a great fuck. And you can't judge a book by its cover. It's just like, you know, you just fucking know.
Starting point is 00:53:37 Okay, so this girl's coming at me, and she's that gorgeous that she's distracting. Like, I am literally scared I'm going to fall on my fucking face. But then, like 20 yards away, I start smelling beautiful perfume. 10 yards away, 5 yards away, she passes me. Of course, camel toe. Of course, a body, a 10. The face is a 10 a ten the faces a ten but I smell a ton of perfume
Starting point is 00:54:07 and it went back to my days so when we went to bars instead of having someone that would be the designated driver because there was no designated driver was the guy who did five lines of coke
Starting point is 00:54:18 and ten beers and four shots that qualified as your designated driver you know what I mean all that meant is he wasn't going to fall asleep at the wheel or throw up you know that's that's your designated driver. You know what I mean? All that meant is he wasn't going to fall asleep at the wheel
Starting point is 00:54:26 or throw up. That's your designated driver. That used to be the M.O. We had an SVP driver. It doesn't stand for Scott Van Pelt. It stands for sewer vagina pussy. So, he would be the person
Starting point is 00:54:41 in the bar because, of course, we're trying. Because we had balls. Like, we went after the tens. You know what I'm saying? Then at 3 in the morning, you settled for a fucking handjob from some girl you wouldn't even talk to. You never asked her, you know, whatever. You know, it didn't matter. She could have venereal disease, but at 3 in the morning, I don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:55:01 You know, I'll worry about it. I'll be at the pharmacist the next day and pray to God my dick doesn't fall off. If you don't have an STD by now, you're not trying. So anyway. So he would be the person that would go up to the tens. And if their perfume was strong, we'd be like, we're not fucking that. Because we knew that they had sewer vagina pussy. And that's how they compensate.
Starting point is 00:55:24 Because my father told me when I was young, if you can't eat it, don't fuck it. He literally said that. He literally said, if you can't eat it, don't fuck it. And if you fuck them up their ass, you'll never get them pregnant. So that's how I learned how to roll. That's literally how I learned how to roll.
Starting point is 00:55:41 Because he said, I know you're supposed to wear a bag, but wearing a fucking bag, you might as well fucking jerk off. I mean, to wear. Because he said, like, I know you're supposed to wear a bag, but wearing a fucking bag, you might as well fucking jerk off. You know, like, I mean, to wear a bag
Starting point is 00:55:48 and fuck a girl, what are you doing? And what year is this? 70s? 78. I was in 11th grade. Yeah. Because that's like
Starting point is 00:55:57 pre-AIDS scare. Well, AIDS was only, you know, at that time, you know, 1991 was Magic Johnson. So that's when the world found out really about AIDS. Otherwise, it was subversive, and it was only men on men.
Starting point is 00:56:14 You know, we were taught that even though, of course, that wasn't true. When did the pill come out? Birth control. Was that a big deal for you guys? Because I've always heard of stories of, like, life after birth control, but before the AIDS epidemic was just like everybody's fucking everybody. So it would have to be. You can't get pregnant and there was nothing to worry about.
Starting point is 00:56:31 I would say it would have to be late 70s, early 80s. Yeah. So there was like that, you know, almost like a, I don't know, five, seven, maybe 10 year period where like, all right, nobody can get pregnant. But we had a crew. There's no such thing as like dying from an STD. So let's just fuck. Right.
Starting point is 00:56:44 Literally. But we had a crew. There's no such thing as dying from an STD, so let's just fuck. Right, literally. But even when AIDS came out when I was young, before I committed to Sandy and I just became monogamous, it was only gays. Right, so you didn't even think about it. Never. Never. We were ignorant because that wasn't the case. Right, right, right. Literally wasn't the case. Right, right, right. Literally wasn't the case, but, you know, unless you would get, and then, you know,
Starting point is 00:57:06 in the 70s and 80s when, you know, gays, you know, like my friends, they beat him with baseball bats. Like, it was so horrific. It was so wrong. Your friends?
Starting point is 00:57:15 It was like, well, everybody's friends, right? Like, I mean, that's how it was then. So we were doing it. But I mean, but it was horrific, but so in other words,
Starting point is 00:57:21 that was never an issue when we fucked. It didn't even come into our heads so so were people like were girls like do you have a condom or they're like uh um yeah they would always say you got to wear a condom on a pregnant but then they weren't but we would we would ask are you on the pill yeah you know and if we weren't and if they weren't on a pill we would get blown first so that that first quick load or that you know like you almost premature ejaculate when you're young.
Starting point is 00:57:45 I mean, the semen would come right to your penis. You don't know how many times. Like even when Donald Trump, when I lost a hundred thousand dollar credit line at the Trump Taj Mahal. And it's before he got married to Marla Maples. So he's dating her. And for my money, Marla Maples is the hottest fucking girl I've ever seen in my life. So I'm literally, so he slows me down. I lost $100.
Starting point is 00:58:16 I lost $50 cash at $100 line. And then I go in for another $100. And he literally put me on the shoulder, tapped me on the shoulder. You're talking about him personally? Him personally. I was like one of his best losing customers ever at the very beginning. And he was put me on the shoulder, tapped me on the shoulder. You're talking about him personally? Him personally. I was like one of his best losing customers ever at the very beginning. And he was very personal. The reason that he was so successful is he fucking the minute, if you were a high roller,
Starting point is 00:58:33 he kissed your fucking ass. He was the first person. As much food as you want, Cristal, anything, penthouse, he gave it away because he knew he was smart. So anyway, they had a, in the high roller part of the Taj Mahal, they had a restaurant called Scheherazade. And Scheherazade was right on, so like, if I'm gambling
Starting point is 00:58:54 here and I lost, the restaurant's right there and you walk in, and the only people in that restaurant are high rollers. And it was the best fucking food in the world. And so I could walk in and get seven bottles of Cristal at 400 a bottle, and nobody blinked of Cristal at $400 a bottle, and nobody blinked. Nobody looked at your fucking, hey, is this guy
Starting point is 00:59:09 credit worthy? Whatever. I'm with Marla Maples, and I'm trying to pick her up. Sandy's right there, but I'm taking a shot because she's a fucking 10. Literally, for me, not for everybody, but for me, you know, not for everybody
Starting point is 00:59:25 but for me, she just, she had it. She was the one, yeah. So, you know, like I literally probably, I made a couple of major moves that now I might have, like if she ratted me out and they had it on tape, I would probably get arrested for you can't say what I said. And she...
Starting point is 00:59:41 What do you think you said? Give me an example. I'd be like i'd be like yeah i know he owns the place but can he fuck he can't fuck like me i mean like i'm telling you right now i can go for two hours come and go another two hours like that's what i that's my mo to everyone at that time like good and i did you say that i always say sorry to interrupt you the the most amazing pickup i've ever seen in my life was in newport rhode island i got a buddy who's like six five big tall guy he's talking to this beautiful woman my other buddy little guy comes up steps in between them and he says look at him look at me
Starting point is 01:00:18 everything's been handed to him his whole life he'll fucking he'll he won't even eat your pussy he won't do anything he won't even fucking they're like they're best friends he won't even fucking try me i'll fucking sweat like a warthog i'll have your heels pinned to the bed but that's the truth that's the truth that's literally the truth so so in other words and then i like i'm getting close to her like like touching her a little bit try to grind and she shuts me the fuck down like the worst ever. So then so I go to the bathroom
Starting point is 01:00:51 and then I go to pee and I like ejaculated against my penis and my pee came all over me. Like it spit on me. So I had to go buy another fucking outfit. So anyway. Covered in pee spit on me. So I had to go buy another fucking outfit. So,
Starting point is 01:01:08 anyway. I told this story on part of my take when they came to my house. It was like the first major story. The big cat and me. Sandy's sitting at the table there with all her friends. I'm barbecuing. It's me, PFT, KFC. It's fucking Hank.
Starting point is 01:01:24 It's Ria. And it's right before they got the van talk. So Big Cat and PFT are like, after this is over, they're like on a table talking about they just got the van talk on ESPN. And it was wild. A hawk came down and scooped up a fucking rabbit and ate it. And they came back to our table and dropped it on the chair. And Sandy says, I don't know what the fuck they were talking about because it looks secretive. But whatever it is, it's going to be a bad thing.
Starting point is 01:01:58 P.S. They fucking got canned. It was like surreal. But anyway, so that we would never hit on the girls that have perfume. So I spoke about that on the podcast. It's on the podcast right now. You know, sewer vagina pussy. And so Alex thinks I'm full of shit. He Googles it.
Starting point is 01:02:20 It's a fucking problem. It's a legit. Because what happens when if you went down there and ate girls, they would put like perfume's a fucking problem. It's not legit. What happens when, if you went down there and ate girls, they would put perfume on their fucking thighs. I had this problem when I was in high school. It tastes like rubbing alcohol. Before I was ever having sex or talking to women,
Starting point is 01:02:36 you throw a square and a straight cologne on there. Right, because in those days... No one was going to see my penis for another five years. Right. But in those days, if something smelt, that's humiliating. Like someone would never talk to you again. I still think that's, I mean, I still think that's pretty humiliating. Oh, it is?
Starting point is 01:02:54 I mean, so, but it's a condition. I've never had the issue. I've never run into one. With a pussy or you? A pussy. Yeah. Oh, no. Oh, are you kidding me?
Starting point is 01:03:06 Then I go right to... I'd be like... I'd be like, oh. I'd be like, I have to go to the bathroom. I've got my clothes on. Leave. Like, if I'm at her place, I'm leaving. Or if I'm at my place, I would go to...
Starting point is 01:03:18 Like, then we didn't have cell phones. You'd have to go to a fucking regular phone. So you'd have to, like... You know, I don't know what I would do. And I'd say, like, I have to make a call. And they'd be like, oh, my God, my friend's in trouble. He just got arrested. I got to go to a fucking regular phone. So you'd have to like, you know, I don't know what I would do. And I said, like, I have to make a call. And they'd be like, oh, my God, my friend's in trouble. He just got arrested. I got to go.
Starting point is 01:03:29 And then we would just end the fucking conversation. Never see the fucking person again. I had a friend who. Ghost. That was the original ghost. Sue of a giant pussy. When it was a real ghost. When you never saw me again.
Starting point is 01:03:40 Yeah. It's not like you still follow me on everything. Never saw me again. It's not that we don't talk anymore. It's that I don't exist to you anymore. He was in the backseat of a car with a girl, and he was going down on her and trying to have sex with her, and it smelled so bad, and it was like hot boxing
Starting point is 01:03:54 because it was like a tiny little shitty coupe, and he rolled the window down and puked out the window. It was so bad that he... I mean, because that's... And then I think he was like... I feel horrific for those people. So Alex Googled it. It's a whole condition.
Starting point is 01:04:09 I'll tell you what, though. What you do, it's not curable. Stu, I'm happy I can talk to you about this direct because God bless Summer's Eve and all those products that just... Oh, yeah, douches and stuff. I mean, if you're not doing that, if you got a problem,
Starting point is 01:04:24 there's problems, there's way there's problems there's ways to fix it well certain times yes certain times not well if you got svp sewer vagina pussy then you might be in trouble right but every other girl out there you probably don't realize it but it's like get in there and i don't mind like i don't mind a smell smells fine i like smells i'm good i eat ass in a whorehouse for years, so I don't mind that. And, you know, like a fishy, like people, that's good. It tastes like pennies. Right, whatever, right?
Starting point is 01:04:49 That's fine. That's what it's supposed to taste like, you know, but you're talking like a dead rat. You know, you're talking like a dead skull of a body that they just opened the door and found, you know, like, you know, Ted Kaczynski's fucking victims, the police walking. Like, you know, like you see, like in the movies whenki's fucking victims the police walk in like you know like you see like in the movies when there's dead bodies
Starting point is 01:05:08 you open a door and like even the cops like turn the other way and throw up like in other words that's a real fucking thing oh so funny
Starting point is 01:05:18 so wait so when she hears these stories she's heard these before and now she's hearing you tell them publicly or is she just finding out for the first time too no she's heard these before and now she's hearing you tell them publicly? No. No, she never heard these. Never.
Starting point is 01:05:30 So are you going to be getting in like 50 year old fights? What do you mean? This is my normal day. Comes down because she's worked for like 13 years because I went broke 13 years ago. So anyway, she comes down and she'll say she's a little tired.
Starting point is 01:05:49 And she'll be like, why'd you put so many fucking paper plates in the paper plate holder? It's only you, me, four people here. Why does it have to be stacked like this? And why are all these fucking napkins in the napkin holder? What the fuck's going on? I mean, it's fucking ridiculous. When I retire, there's no way that's going to happen. I'm like, what's up your ass?
Starting point is 01:06:04 Yeah, because you know what's up my ass? saw your fucking pose today your fucking pose you fucking pig and certain times she'll start crying she's like i don't know why i'm stuck here i don't know why i stayed with you and that can happen every day that's tough it's a tough scene sure it's tough yeah and what do you say in those moments do you say like I I'm like honey this is how I make a living now
Starting point is 01:06:28 what do you you want to live in a pine box you want to live in a two and a half million dollar house fucking sit in first row every fucking show you know you want you want to spend
Starting point is 01:06:36 three thousand four thousand a week on takeout you don't have to cook do you so that goes with the fucking territory just like fuck you
Starting point is 01:06:44 I should have fucking left you. You know, like, because I've been, think about it, I've been with her wire to wire back to back since March 11, 1978. So every mistake I've made, everything that's gone wrong, every
Starting point is 01:06:59 slip that I've called her a cunt, you piece of shit, you selfish ungrateful whore, you know, like, you get in horrible fights, and I fight dirty. You know, same with her for that matter. We go into the gutter. Now she's like, you ain't all that! You ain't fucking me for two fucking hours!
Starting point is 01:07:16 I don't know who you're fucking! Stop your fucking shit! I'm gonna write a fucking book! Your fucking book! Because when my book came out, when my book came out... What my book came out what's the name of that again uh betcha i can so they made the movie two for the money and that was a disgruntled employee standpoint on him working for me they used my tv show in the movie it was mcconaughey yeah it was al pacino played me renee russo played my wife matthew mcconaughey in real life played a
Starting point is 01:07:42 disgruntled employee that worked for me from 1990 to 1995. And in the movie, they used my sports advisor's TV show that Dave and his father and his uncle watched. The Reason I'm Here, The Reason He Called Me, the Bring Back the Show rebranded. He watched it for like seven years. I had $100,000 a week budget. I was the only show on TV.
Starting point is 01:08:00 I was making a million dollars a year. A million and a half a year. That's equivalent to $20 million right now. No one was making a million dollars a year, a million and a half a year. That's equivalent to 20 million right now. No one was making, nobody, like literally, there's no one. Were you involved in the making of the movie or they just placed it on you? No, absolutely not. Not a fucking thing.
Starting point is 01:08:18 Not a word. Nobody contacted you or anything? I found out about it. So this kid leaves me in real life. He leaves me, writes the letter, leaves a fucking Rolex watch that I gave him. Did something go wrong? What happened was this.
Starting point is 01:08:31 He fed my 900 numbers. That was his forte. Fabulous voice, talked quick, very glib, very funny. And he fed the games. So he was allowed to pick the games for three different numbers, okay? And three different separate phone numbers, separate companies. Because what we found out is these people were paying 20 companies at a time. So I'm like, I only own one.
Starting point is 01:09:01 I'm like, so that means I'm giving 19 fucking companies money. So I opened 20 of them. So the guy paid me times 20. I'm like, this is crazy. So I went from 1,090,000 or 900 numbers to 8 million. I'm like, this is unbelievable. So he went into a horrific losing streak with no winning streak to back it up. So he hit like 20 20 he wiped out the business
Starting point is 01:09:27 so my brother-in-law took over picking the games and within like 40 days my numbers went back up to old numbers he couldn't handle his ego that now he was just a feeder his his ego was on the line that he could win where he actually never could win never he was about as bad as they could be so he quit because of that he quit goes to australia for two weeks becomes a caddy at the river or country club his balls fucking broke eating ramen noodles. Dustin Hoffman and Rene Russo's husband, Danny Gilroy, he's catting for them. And, you know, 18 holes. You got five hours. He gives it a shot.
Starting point is 01:10:13 He pitches him. Dustin Hoffman gives him $20,000 on the spot to buy the life rights. Danny Gilroy is going to produce the movie. He writes the screenplay. Sits on Dustin Hoffman's desk for three years and gives the project back. So now Danny Gilroy, Rene Russo shop it and they get Al Pacino, Matthew McConaughey, Jeremy Piven, Amanda Sante. But before they gave it to Dustin Hoffman, before Dustin Hoffman said, I'm not going to do this. Dustin Hoffman and Rene Russo are riding horses in Arizona.
Starting point is 01:10:46 And he left me in 95. And to his credit, he said, Stu, what you're asking me to do, you don't need. You could use this kid to fill right in for me. And this kid did. And my three best years was when he left, 95, 6, 7. I wrote 12 million, 14 million, 16 million. I had like 30% profit, 40% profit. It was stupid. Okay. So I have 220 full and part-time people working for me. One of my salesmen comes in my office and says, Stu, you're not going to fucking believe this.
Starting point is 01:11:18 My buddy runs a security firm in Arizona to keep paparazzis away from stars. And right now, he's in front of Dustin Hoffman and Rene Russo. And Dustin Hoffman just dick-dropped that he's playing this Jew, Stu Feiner, on Long Island in a movie. I'm like, listen, do me a fucking favor. Get the fuck back on the phone, you jerk-off, and stop fucking pulling my dick. You know, because they would pull tricks on me. The key would be to, because I would hide tricks on me. The key would be because I would hide
Starting point is 01:11:45 under people's desks when I came in the fucking office and I would scare the living fuck out of them. Or they would order food and I would put like worms in their food
Starting point is 01:11:56 when they opened it. You know, like I would take a shit right on their desk when they walked in. Like, like there's nothing I wouldn't do
Starting point is 01:12:03 for a joke. Shit on your desk. Right on the fucking desk. Literally pulled my fucking pants down with my 5 and 7-inch dick. Everyone looking at it and just shit. Like, on command, in a circle, like it's a fucking parsley and cheese sauce. So, we used to take people up to the roof and hang them by their ankles. Tell them we're going to kill them, you know, unless they wrote money. Like, I am the best for a joke, and nothing is better than me scaring you, like, every day.
Starting point is 01:12:32 Like, you know, but the door would open, I'd be like, bah! You know, and I'm loud, and I'm scowling. Like, people would have, like, six corgis drop. There's nothing I wouldn't do. What a terror, dude. This sounds like Danny DeVito and Sonny talking about... Right, there's nothing I wouldn't do what a terror this sounds like Danny DeVito and Sonny talking about there's nothing I wouldn't do
Starting point is 01:12:48 a balloon full of champagne all the taste of good life you piece of shit so anyway I don't believe this guy I'm like there's no way and he was like adamant so I threw him out my brother-in-law who runs the place says
Starting point is 01:13:02 listen Stu you got the kid crying upstairs he's like he's fucking dead serious I'm like tell that piece of shit So I threw him out. My brother-in-law who runs the place says, listen, Stu, you got the kid crying upstairs. He's like, he's fucking dead serious. I'm like, tell that piece of shit to give me Danny Gilroy's number right now if it's fucking true. So he gives me Danny Gilroy's number. I call the phone. It's Danny Gilroy. So I say to Danny.
Starting point is 01:13:21 So meanwhile, from 95 to 97, I did so great. And I was making so much money. I tried to reach out to Brandon, get him back to work for me I'm like come on kid I'm killing you're fucking you know like there's no way you do it I didn't know anything about his life
Starting point is 01:13:32 I had paid people find the kid change his name because he went undercover so I couldn't find the kid and I spent thousands trying to look for him private eyes
Starting point is 01:13:43 nothing so it's Danny Gilroy's number so I said to Danny Gilroy And I spent thousands trying to look for him. Private eyes, nothing. So it's Danny Gilroy's number. So I say to Danny Gilroy, literally, literally, listen, you scumbag fuck. I don't give a fuck. I'm going to fuck your wife, Renee Russo. I'm going to skull fuck her, come all over. Who the fuck are you to write a movie about me?
Starting point is 01:14:03 I'll sue your fucking ass. You know, I do my stu-fine to rip ass. Within a minute, movie about me. I'll sue your fucking ass. You know, I do my Stu Feiner rip-ass. Within a minute, Brandon calls me. I've been trying to look for the guy for two years. What are you doing? You can't threaten Danny Gilroy. You're going to fuck up the whole project. I'm like, what project, you motherfucker?
Starting point is 01:14:20 What's going on? He tells me the whole story. I go, listen, that ain't happening. That ain't fucking happening. He goes, okay, this is the deal. I'm going to come back to work for you, and we'll make amends. And once the movie happens, I'll cut you in. We'll make money.
Starting point is 01:14:37 He got paid a quarter of a million dollars. P.S., it's like three weeks before the fucking movie coming out. Now, he was on Stephen A. Smith. He was on ESPN. He was interviewed by everybody because it's the first movie on sports gambling. You got fucking the greatest cast in the world. In the fucking world. Like A++ people.
Starting point is 01:15:01 You know what I'm saying? He cuts me out. Cuts me out. He probably never was going to cut you in in the first place. A hundred percent. But Dustin Hoffman ends up, I mean, excuse me,
Starting point is 01:15:15 Al Pacino ends up fucking hating this guy. Would not allow him to be on the movie set. He said Dustin Hoffman, I mean Al Pacino said I hate this guy. He makes me uncomfortable Hoffman, I mean, Al Pacino said, I hate this guy. He makes me uncomfortable.
Starting point is 01:15:29 I don't want him fucking near here. So he got fucking, he was in the movie for a 10 second part, but it was like Dustin, I'm sorry, Al Pacino didn't even want him there. He was supposed to be like for an hour and a half,
Starting point is 01:15:40 a 10 second part. So behind my back, him and a partner when partner's on a website and then I told the partner, I mean I hope not a lot to say this, but I told the partner
Starting point is 01:15:57 I'm not being robbed in plain daylight. I'm literally, you're fucking, I don't care what happened. You don't understand. You must think I'm going to fucking kill you. I'm not allowing you to do this. So he said, all right, listen, this is what we're going to do. I can't do something wrong to this guy right now because he's hot. So they opened the website and we robbed every one of his names.
Starting point is 01:16:27 So all the names that went to that website, I took and put them into 10 other websites. So this guy made me like $5 million. I just robbed him blind. And it was great. I love you're getting it, guys. I robbed him. Right. And he was a fucking total love your getting it, guys. I robbed. Right. You know, and he was a fucking total dummy because, like, thieves are not smart.
Starting point is 01:16:49 He's not smart. You know what I mean? Like, he didn't realize once he's robbing and doing something bad that, you know, he just thought he got the world by the balls. But we circumvented him, you know, so that's how life works. You know what I'm saying? You know, whatever. You know, there's everybody. Somebody's always smarter than you.
Starting point is 01:17:04 Did Pacino and McConaughey and them know that this movie was about you? 100%. What do you mean? Absolutely. He had to tell them. He told them everything. No, no, no. They told him everything. Absolutely told him anything.
Starting point is 01:17:20 And then eventually they fucked him and the other people fucked him, of course. And he's broke now. He's hiding from people. He owes money to a lot of people. Yeah, I mean, that's actually eventually. So, you know, he's hiding. Did you have any contact with them ever? Never.
Starting point is 01:17:32 I feel like we might, maybe not Pacino, but maybe McConaughey. No, no, McConaughey. What do you mean? He was on here with Big Cat and PFT, and they told him it was about me. And he said, yeah, I knew that. Did you ever? No, I never did. Did he connect you guys?
Starting point is 01:17:44 No, I never did. How did he connect you guys? No, I never did. I never did because, whatever. It would be great to see that happen. It's widely written. In other words, for example,
Starting point is 01:17:53 I could call Al Pacino's agent and say, hey, can I have a meeting with Al and I want to talk about the movie. But it's meaningless now. Yeah, but no. But if, just say, if you could ever sit down
Starting point is 01:18:04 with those guys for the podcast, only Stu, that would be incredible. I mean, what was your experience? I would rather get my foot in the door, have an actual movie in play that would be from my standpoint, and then I could call them.
Starting point is 01:18:21 Then I'm saying, listen, I have this project. I would like to just talk to you on my podcast about this. So in other words. It's not impossible. No, no, nothing's impossible. Low budget, lower budget. Because of Barstool, because of the buzz, nothing's impossible. Nobody in the world's out of reach.
Starting point is 01:18:35 From Eli Buss to Tom Brady to Al Pacino, really. But I've never really, like in other words, every day of my life, I say Al Pacino played me in the movie Two for the Money. That's worth a billion dollars. Totally. You know what I'm saying? The credibility. It's almost equal to when Dave Portnoy, when he called me and said, I want to bring back your show. That credibility was
Starting point is 01:18:53 worth a billion dollars. Forget about the money I made. That credibility alone was worth a billion dollars. And now Dave Portnoy hitched his horse to me, and I'm sitting next to him. You know what I mean? Like, you know, independent of everything.
Starting point is 01:19:08 That's, you know, so. But in other words, so what was, how did we circle it? Oh, so my point with Marla Maples is that, so in other words, Sandy, so I wrote the book and in the book,
Starting point is 01:19:24 I thought, well, I wrote the book, and in the book, I wrote the book as a comeback because a couple of things happened. Sandy found out that I owed millions and millions of dollars that she never knew about to the mafia, to the government, to friends. Did you feel like the walls closing in on you? No. You thought you were in control. No. Because you know what I have? The crazy and it's innate ability and it's not a good characteristic.
Starting point is 01:19:52 I never take a loss. I don't want to lose. So I went to the smartest people in the world and they said, Stu, very simple plan here. Sell your fucking house. Go bankrupt. Fuck everybody and start over. Everybody does this.
Starting point is 01:20:11 It was like one of Donald Trump's lawyers. Donald Trump's, you know, at the time, Donald wasn't viewed as he is now, like a sociopath. That works with gambling debts, though? Like, is that what you're talking about? No. No, no, no. No, no, no. Business debts. Okay. Business debts. Everybody does this every day yeah and for me everybody for me i can never do that
Starting point is 01:20:31 i just did like i have a balls of stone i i could fucking look a billionaire in the face and play poker with i'm not not not physical poker i'm not a good but i I have the confidence. Like, if I'm in a room with Portnoy, Eli Musk, they're not better than me. They're just not. You know, they bleed like I bleed. It's how I feel. A bum on the street,
Starting point is 01:20:56 we're talking about on the act, a bum on the street is no different than Eli Musk. They're humans. It just didn't go the right way for that guy. I don't give a fuck. I'm the smartest guy in the world. don't give a fuck the deal i'm the smartest guy in the world what does that mean big deal what the fuck the in you matt what the fuck does that mean you're the same so anyway so um i said i'm not doing that and i went to another guy
Starting point is 01:21:18 and he gave me the exact i must have gone to like i must have spent literally like $60,000 getting advice from people. And every person told me, I'm never getting out of the hole. It was like a $7 million hole. You're never getting out of the hole. First of all, eventually the mafia people, you're not going to fucking pay them. They're going to fucking shoot you. Which that was the direct reverse. They were the only people at the beginning that stood up.
Starting point is 01:21:45 They said, Stu, you've been a fucking Jew, a good earner for us for fucking ever. You've got balls of stone. Your name in the street is gold. You never beat a guy out of a fucking penny. We'll wait. And they did. They stopped the clock on the money. The Times paid like four points a week on three million.
Starting point is 01:22:01 It's 12,000 a week with nothing coming off the fucking top. Nothing. They waited. a week on three million it's 12 000 a week with nothing coming off the fucking top nothing they waited and the government eventually put liens against me that was like a couple million and my friends which was the worst part when sandy found out because she was humiliated she like we went to baseball and i didn't have any money saw my kids up for baseball like it was like 60 I didn't have any money. So she went there and She was gonna borrow money and the head of the baseball said no you good
Starting point is 01:22:34 So like she was humiliated So when you find out that right, you know, you thought my point was not right but my point was that I Didn't want to fail, so I paid everybody back. I worked my fucking dick off because I knew that eventually when I had to, I took Trazodone, this fucking depressant that's supposed to help you with anxiety. Like, I almost crashed my car, like, on the southern state.
Starting point is 01:23:04 I fell asleep for like two minutes on it. And I have no idea how, I almost crashed my car like on the southern state. I fell asleep for like two minutes on it. And I have no idea how I should be dead. Like literally, like it was, so I told my doctor, I said,
Starting point is 01:23:13 I should fucking shoot you because you shouldn't even be allowed to prescribe this to people. Because like, if you take antidepressants and it goes bad,
Starting point is 01:23:22 you could literally kill yourself. And that's literally, I was one of those people. So I got off of that and then I just worked my dick off to get to pay everyone back. So I always had a total confidence in myself
Starting point is 01:23:34 that no matter what, I can do it. Yeah. Blindly. How long did that take you? To have that? No, to get out of the hole. 13 years.
Starting point is 01:23:48 That's a long time. A long grind, man. Six years, I was balls broke. But I am a great salesman. The best. So when I played the part, like when I walked down the street, you couldn't even tell I was broke. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:03 Unless I owed you $1,600, $2,500, $3,500, you know, $500. I piecemeal. So my point is when I was in trouble, I just borrowed. I borrowed. Like I didn't care the consequences. I had no idea how I was going to give it back. I had no plan. But for like four years, I lived like Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 01:24:25 I lived like the king of the world but it was on all borrowed money like i'm so like and then then people start saying how the fuck are you going to madonna where are you going to arizona where what do you mean you're going to france you owe me x x x x x x x sandy found. And that was the lowest point. So she was about to leave me. She said, I had enough. This is way over the top. So I write my book, Betcha I Can. And that was my comeback.
Starting point is 01:24:57 That gave me the confidence that I'm going to do a movie. If my asshole buddy Robby can do a movie, I'm going to do a movie. Well, of course, I couldn't do the movie. You know, that was a billion dollar lottery ticket that he hit. Yeah. That was a one, that is never happening again.
Starting point is 01:25:11 Never. I think he's doing a movie. No, no, but I'm saying, but like, you know, to get the cast
Starting point is 01:25:17 and it has to go perfectly right. So anyway. When she finds out, is she like, I'm leaving you? Well, yeah. She stopped fucking me
Starting point is 01:25:24 for six months the worst part of all she wanted to move to a room downstairs and I think half the time she was in a room downstairs
Starting point is 01:25:34 now of course as a male as a slut I'm thinking she's gotta be fucking someone else but that's not how women work
Starting point is 01:25:41 like that isn't like women can play with vibrators she can turn that off. Right? Or she turned it off. She's like, I'm not fucking you. I'm not fucking anyone.
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Starting point is 01:27:48 strawberry banana so I write my book betcha I can and I figured we were done we were dead so I so then the minute
Starting point is 01:27:56 I started writing the book I'm like I got confidence again I got muscles I got you know I got I'm rolling
Starting point is 01:28:01 and then everything just started hitting I figured out the internet. For three years in a row, I hit 61%, giving every game for free. Jesus. I fucking was on, because, and making no money. But I built my reputation back by winning.
Starting point is 01:28:17 And you don't have to believe me. Go on the fucking internet and see it. Go on Twitter. Every fucking game is there. Okay? And I wrote this book. And in the book, I put stuff that I never should have put. Because I didn't know that we were going to stay married.
Starting point is 01:28:34 Oh. Geez. So you're writing that almost thinking like this is done. Right. It's done. Might as well. It's done. Burn the boats.
Starting point is 01:28:42 So then all of a sudden, she fucking said to me like one day she said she read the manuscript and she was hysterical crying and she said you can't put this out I go what do you mean
Starting point is 01:28:54 I can't put it out I'm putting it out it's already in motion she goes do you realize what you fucking are saying in this fucking book
Starting point is 01:29:01 and then I had to tell her you know what happened and how it happened and whatever. Here's why. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, but she was never leaving. Oh, geez. She was never, like, I didn't know that.
Starting point is 01:29:15 So do you think you wouldn't have told her? I would have never wrote this. Really? I wouldn't have. There's certain parts of the book that I said things, no way. Like, even the person that I wrote the book with, they're like, are you sure you want to put this? I'm like, yeah, my marriage is over. It's over.
Starting point is 01:29:30 There's no going back. There's no going back. You know, like, so what happened was. Did you ever have like a, this is me taking a leave of baby. I know it's not easy, but like, are you in the year out well the the the transgressions that i i the move the book was written in 2008 right and the transgressions that i that i put in the book happened in 1982 statute of limitations so it isn't like i you know it isn't like a 30 year right you. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:07 And the specific ones was this. I had a business in a two story building. And so you walk in the door and right to your left is this little office. And there's this two guys. And their job was to get strippers for nightclubs. Now, 1982, when I'm talking strippers, I'm talking scale of 1 to 10, they were fours. They were heroin crack addicts,
Starting point is 01:30:35 sluts, thin as a rail, no tits, scars on their face. But when you went to a club in 1982, that was in these dive strip joints on Long Island. You know, there was no top of the line strip joint. There was none. Didn't exist. They were fucking they were crack whores. And then of course, you go to the bar and then you wait for the bar to close and you get blown in your car. You're fucking them. You don't even know what you're doing.
Starting point is 01:30:55 But that was the normal MO those days. So, um... And he could slip in. I mean, that was like the MO in those days. So, this fucking guy would send fucking strippers was like the M.O. in those days. So this fucking guy would send fucking strippers up to the top. And then all my guys and us would fuck him. Okay.
Starting point is 01:31:25 Then all of a sudden, out of the blue, this guy in a fucking drop-dead gorgeous suit, totally minted out hair, jewelry all over the place. They introduced me to him. They go, hey, this is Joey. His nickname is Joey Bang Bang. Just got out of jail for killing fucking, you know, he did 17 years, killed fucking people. Hi, Joey!
Starting point is 01:31:38 You know, I'm like, what do you do? He told me, I told him what he did. He goes, he was hysterical laughing. He goes, fucking sit down right now. We're drinking cappuccino fucking tell me what you do no no no
Starting point is 01:31:47 explain something to me so these fucking people you know nothing you know I really have a come on
Starting point is 01:31:53 you're not bookmaking no I never took a bet I never you're not bookmaking no
Starting point is 01:31:58 they pay you they're like he like grim by the throat he goes it's the greatest thing I've ever heard. I fucking love you. You're telling me you're fucking scamming people.
Starting point is 01:32:09 I'm not scamming them. You don't have to. Come on. What are you fucking talking to? He's like, you want me to kill you? He has a gun. He's like, you want to put a gun to my head? You want to kill you?
Starting point is 01:32:20 Don't fucking tell me you're a scam. Say you're a scam. I'm like, I'm not a scam. And he's like smacking me. It's like a movie, smacking me. Hey, listen to this guy. He's got doubles. He introduces me to all his psycho fucking people.
Starting point is 01:32:32 Like, they love me. He's like, Stewie Jew. He's a fucking Jew. He's an earner. So we go from like 10 people upstairs to like 35. He has a card game every Friday. A couple of my people are playing cards with him my partner i was 21 my partner was 43 my partner was this old school italian
Starting point is 01:32:53 jerk off yeah i think you mentioned him last time yeah yeah and this guy hated him so they sent they sent the guy upstairs to work for me this This guy was like a Luca Brasi guy. We put all the numbers on the board. This guy sees we're writing $100,000 a week, $150,000 a week. Goes down. This guy, Joey, fucking makes a move on my partner. Smacks him around when I wasn't there. Smacks him around.
Starting point is 01:33:23 And then he brought me out a couple of times to high-end fucking girls. And we fucked them. You know, twosomes, threesomes, whatever. It was crazy. So I put that shit in the book. Hey, you made for a good book. That's how I figured it. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:38 So, you know, so that hurt me. Did you like, were you just trying to get the money? Or did you like, quote-unquote, fame and being one of these guys and high rollers and you know some of the influential people and mobsters? Did you like that life or you were just like, I don't want money? I never liked the mobsters in reality because I saw the cold, hard, real stuff of it. It was scary. Right. It was scary right like it was you know like it was scary right but at your peak you're like meeting athletes and parties i never met at my peak i
Starting point is 01:34:12 never met athletes because remember now gambling was not legal right right so gambling was looked at like death yeah right no one spoke to me no one ever spoke to me like even the people that used to watch me on tv at a hundred thousand a week budget they never said hello to me they would shun me the nfl said you can't fucking go near this guy so i never spoke to those people yeah i i i always brought like almost like an alan iverson type mentality i brought my up. I was the only guy that made money. I didn't cut no deal that if I make it, you make it. But when I went out, I wanted to go out with everyone. That was my mentality.
Starting point is 01:34:54 Whatever I made that day, I'm spending that day. We're going to Atlantic City. We're getting two limos. I'm giving everyone $500,000. We go to the garden. We see the Knicks. We see Michael Jordan. I'm spending. We're going to Smith & Walensky's. I'm fitting the bill because We go to the garden. We see the Knicks. We see, we see Michael Jordan. I'm spending.
Starting point is 01:35:05 We're going to Smith and Walensky's. I'm fitting the bill because I just made the money. And I didn't have the, I didn't have the knowledge of the street sense or, or the business acumen to know that, Hey, moron, spend 20%, save 80%, buy a couple of buildings, buy strip stores. My buddy in 1985, no, 86, says to me, I told him, Giants are playing Denver
Starting point is 01:35:31 in the Super Bowl. It's the first Giants Super Bowl in Pasadena. And I said, I'm spending like 50 grand. We got 50-yard lines. We're in the best fucking hotel in Pasadena. We're fucking in the Ritz-Carlton. I got fucking eight rooms. Blah, blah. And he goes, $50,000?
Starting point is 01:35:50 He goes, I just bought these three buildings. $50,000 each. Give me a 50. Don't go to the Super Bowl. And we'll see. Three buildings right now worth $20 million each. I saw him 30 years later in life. He's living in some fucking $14 million house. He's a $100 million guy. He's like,
Starting point is 01:36:04 do you remember do you remember you fucking asshole you know meanwhile I'm trying to borrow 1800 from the guy cause I needed like to keep the lights on at my fucking house and the guy's like do you remember do you remember
Starting point is 01:36:20 you know like you know so I mean in the end it all works out, right? But listen, I got lucky. Yeah, yeah. I got lucky. Last, when you weren't here, you said, I got lucky. I tell my kids and my kids' friends when they come around, I tell them, you're never going to be me. You're never going to make this money.
Starting point is 01:36:41 I got lucky. It's never going to happen to you. And also, this is my money, and I'm going to spend every dime of it, and you're not getting any this money i got lucky it's never gonna happen to you and also this is my money and i'm gonna spend every dime of it and you're not getting any right like but i mean that was from day one i'm not leaving my kids anybody you know i'm saying like like now i have a do you think that's why they're all pretty successful though like you know running their own business and shit because they're like well dad's not giving me shit well i've told them that so they like they can't sit on me yeah you know they know, like the normal, like you can't believe how many people that are rich, their
Starting point is 01:37:09 kids are disastrous. Totally. Because the worst thing in the world is to be entitled. Yep. Like if my father was rich, I would have been a cokehead fuck up and dead by 40, dead by 30. There's not a question in my mind. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:37:23 Yep. Yep. You know, like, you know, when I explain, I invented a fucking trillion dollar industry right now. I invented it. You're not inventing that. You're just not. I see you. My third kid
Starting point is 01:37:35 is really zoned in. He's 28 years old. He owns a fucking gym. He owns a restaurant. He owns a food truck. He has a multi-million dollar business where he wires 5 to 10 million dollar houses for audio, visual, blinds, cameras. He's going to be a monster. He's going to make a ton of money, but he's still not me. Like, for example, when he was all Long Island, all Metro, he was 113 tackles in 12th grade, third most in school history, Farmingdale High School football.
Starting point is 01:38:03 He's a linebacker. And our school's amazing. He played no sports 10th and 11th grade. He had Tommy John surgery in 9th grade. He never came back. So he said, and so then I brought him to Dr. Dines, the top fucking doctor in the fucking world. That was
Starting point is 01:38:19 the Olympic tennis guy. He says, he has a torn leg room, torn shoulder capsule. We got to cut him open. 18 months rehab. So that means my son would miss all of his 12th grade into his first year of college. And he was throwing like 84, 83 in seventh grade.
Starting point is 01:38:34 He had a shot. He's like, fucking dad, fuck this. I don't care if I can never throw a baseball again. I am not missing my 12th grade year and I'm not having any more surgery. So he pumps in the gym. He walks onto the football team. He was the best kid on the fucking team in practice in August.
Starting point is 01:38:53 Came from nowhere. Was insane. Doesn't start until week four. Becomes all Long Island, all Metro, plays in the Boomer game. He was ranked 187, New York, New Jersey, Connecticut. Meanwhile, he's a 5'8", Jewish, if I'm allowed to say,
Starting point is 01:39:08 white kid. Like, I mean, you know what I'm saying? You just see fire on the back of the jersey. But in other words, he's super successful. He's going to be
Starting point is 01:39:14 amazing successful, but he's not going to be me. So my point is that when he won that award, I was so proud. And all he said to me was, Dad, trying to fill your shoes?
Starting point is 01:39:24 Oh. Yeah. You know, that makes me cry. You know what I mean? That was like, wow. Yeah, totally. He said, all I'm trying to do is fill your shoes. You know, that was it.
Starting point is 01:39:40 But he's not. Still, but he's not me. Yeah. And by saying that, that was like the ultimate respect to him. Yeah, for sure. You know what I mean? Well, I mean, you've done a good job, man. That's what it's about.
Starting point is 01:39:51 But the point with Sandy is that, you know, there's scars forever. Like, any little mistake I make goes back to everything. You know what I mean? Like, how many people have been with the same person 45 years? Not many. Like none. Like normally when you know these rich people
Starting point is 01:40:09 they're on their third wife. Yeah, yeah. Because they've made mistakes with the other wives and they're not taking shit. You know like I'm indebted to her forever. She's got me
Starting point is 01:40:20 by the balls forever in so many levels but she's got me physically emotionally, spiritually, mentally. Like even if let's say one of the balls forever in so many levels but she's got me physically emotionally spiritually mentally like even if let's say one of the hottest girl in here said you know they had a brain aneurysm they said stew i want to have your babies like i would have to say i love you but no thank you you know like because i'm never breaking the girl's heart like that would break her fucking heart like i've broken it 50 fucking times so i pay a price right you know what i mean like
Starting point is 01:40:45 yeah yeah i mean you know that's what i so you know like i pay a price so that's why you know but at the end of the day i feel like you've done it you know well i've done it the best i can right right right you know what i mean it's not perfect but i've done it the best i fucking can you know what i'm saying like you think she was happy when i created the perfect hour of sex and i'm walking around 15 minutes eating ass 15 minutes licking cliff 30 minutes fucking can't hold your little bring a vibrator you think she was happy when i made when i when i printed 3 000 cum towels that say let's fuck eat ass look up with my face on it and i'm handing them out at junior high schools to the to the teachers that used to be my teachers high school she's humili's humiliated. She's like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 01:41:26 Like, you know, whatever. I'm like, honey, this is great. I spent $4. I'm selling it for $20. We just sold 1,000. That's $16,000 fucking dollars, you know. She's like, she's crying. She's like, I don't care.
Starting point is 01:41:39 You know, like, why'd you have to do that? You know, and the funny thing is that her friends, though, appreciate me. Yeah. Well, they don't have to fucking, you know, fuck you. Right. Exactly. They don't have to go home to you. But, you know, so I have, her friends have known me since high school.
Starting point is 01:41:58 So they've saved me a lot of time. Sure. Where I'm sure if they turned on me. It would have been over. Right. Yeah. We said, leave them in the dark. Literally.
Starting point is 01:42:08 That was never said. Right. See, as ugly as it was, as bad as it was, as much as I've lied, cheated, steeled on a lot of levels with her emotionally, let's say, not physically, whatever, they never turned on me. But they don't have to live with me on you know what i'm saying
Starting point is 01:42:26 yeah whatever right so you know so it's a like anything it's a balancing item very complicated you know i paid a price for my success i paid a price to hold the family together i paid a price to hang on to my wife you know for that many years and whatever so but you know but listen at the end of the day i'm humble i'm grateful i'm blessed I'm the most luckiest guy in the face of the earth because I do what I love. I still do it. And I have like, now I have sea legs where I could really score out, you know, like there's nothing I can't do in this world. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:42:56 You know, whatever. I mean, my Twitter account's been taken down like four times. I only have 170,000 followers because I'm shadow banned since 1997. You know, like I had to scrub more shit than Hank did when the word came down, start scrubbing. That's why I'm related to Hank. I'm like, Hank, did you scrub
Starting point is 01:43:14 everything? Because I know what I had to scrub. And I wasn't a fucking million dollar company. I was a one man. Well, I guess I was. You are. But I mean, it was much easier to scrub what I did rather than 50. You know the deal. You know the deal.
Starting point is 01:43:29 It's like so funny. What I love the most though, the two sides of it is very cool. So I think this is going to play out well when people see the multiple. Because to be honest with you, what I've noticed is most people, I'd say 90% of people, they don't want to talk about their% people they don't want to talk about their faults they don't want to talk about their failures they don't want to talk about their embarrassment they want to paint a picture of Here I am I did it myself I want to see everybody else no bumps and bruises you know right this was easy I'm brilliant that you're never getting that from me no I'm very
Starting point is 01:44:02 talented but I am you know a glorious failure in the eyes of God. That's what I am. That's pretty much my Stu Feiner. That's the story. I'm glorious, but I'm a failure. You've got to write one more book. Well, I'm going to. I'm going to meet with Kenny Katz tonight.
Starting point is 01:44:16 I'm hoping that he puts the pieces together. He's a St. Paul Barclays agent. He's taking me to Carbone, and then we're going to schmooze and hope to God that things happen. I'm praying to God that happens. It's going to be for sale today, my comedy show. So I'm going to see, you know, part of my ego is like, I'm going to sell out in
Starting point is 01:44:35 five seconds, 120 people. What are you crazy? The reality is my son Alex is like, listen, you don't understand. You're going to fucking lose money. You're going to give away 60 fucking tickets. You're paying $1,000 for the venue and the guy's getting 30%. You've got to give him 30% of what you gave away. You're going to lose $5,000 on this fucking deal.
Starting point is 01:44:54 Don't give anybody any tickets for free. Everybody pays for the meet and greet. Then I summed my head. I'm saying, yes, you're right, Alex. But I'm thinking, how can I charge this guy? How can I charge you? You know, but I'm sure you've been in that spot, too. Totally.
Starting point is 01:45:10 It's a business. Right. It's a business. When someone says, KFC, I've been your fucking friend for 40 years. You're telling me I gotta pay for a fucking ticket? And you're like, hey, it's business. But that's the truth. If you do it for one person, the floodgates open. So he's a little nervous with that.
Starting point is 01:45:26 I think it's all going to be great, dude. I didn't know the stand-up thing was happening. That's going to be very cool. The book will be great. Keep writing, baby. Keep writing the Stu Feiner story. Well, listen, I'm very, very blessed, very grateful that you trust me. Of course.
Starting point is 01:45:38 And we're best friends. Ready to roll. Thank you so much. It means the world. I don't ever take it for granted. I don't ever minimize it. I'm 62. If I was 40 and 30, different.
Starting point is 01:45:49 Because then I'm that guy, but I'm that guy now, but I'm fucking your father. You know what I'm saying? I could be your fucking father. I appreciate that. Good. We'll keep telling the story of Stu as it unfolds, man. Thank you. Beautiful.
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