KFC Radio - Tom Brady Included The Brady 4 in His Hall of Fame Speech ft. Quinn XCII

Episode Date: June 18, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, KFC Radio listeners, you can find every episode of KFC Radio on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. I mean, being in his presence gave me a pregnancy glow. Like, I might be pregnant now. It's another edition of KFC Radio on the Barstool Sports Network. I'm not sure when this is airing because we're just kind of recording, but we've got a lot to talk about, I feel like. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:32 We'll start off with the Brady three. Feidelberg, Gaz, and Hank had their big moment in the sun at the Tom Brady Hall of Fame induction. Patriots Hall of Fame, yeah. Patriots Hall of Fame induction. I'm so happy for you, man. I was so happy for you. I was really genuinely happy for you.
Starting point is 00:00:51 It was like, it was no doubt in my mind one day you would meet Tom Brady. I just didn't know when it was going to be. I, you know, eventually it was just going to have to happen. I'm happy it happened there. And I'm happy he like really recognized it
Starting point is 00:01:04 and shouted it out. Both like in his speech, but also that video of you guys meeting, whether before or after, whatever that was, where he kind of talked with you guys. What did he say? He was like, you guys are infamous, notorious. Number one. Yeah, he kind of was like spitting bars.
Starting point is 00:01:19 You guys are like notorious, infamous, but all for real number one like if i was a producer he's the fucking best if i was a producer i would like chop that up for a beat and have him like ad lib like you're notorious you're gangster you're number one i mean he was spitting it was one of those things where like you can plan a million times what you'd say, and never did I think my first words were, shut up, dude. But it made sense, right? Because his first words to you was like, you guys are great. Thank you guys so much for all your support.
Starting point is 00:01:55 Shut up, dude. Thank you. He's like, thank you so much, guys. Like, shut up, Tom. Yeah, stop it. I don't even want your thank yous. I actually had to explain this to my mom like i forget fairly recently where i was like the most important person in my life is tom britt the most influential for sure and she said still like because i was like no it's not
Starting point is 00:02:14 yes the football stuff obviously but literally this doesn't exist without tom britt yep it just does yes i've heard some people be like you could make the argument and i'm like it's not the no it's not an argument right it's just a fact yeah yeah yeah it's just a fucking fact that's why i'm always kind of torn about him i'm like i can hate your guts but hey at least i got something out of it uh and then uh he gives you guys the shout out during the speech yes and the cameras pan to you and you it looked like you guys were sitting pretty close or no we were insanely close yeah it looked like you were like the first table no it's actually weird we were we were the table we were kind of far from the stage actually i mean like not far we were five four rows of tables back i think we were table 32 so i don't
Starting point is 00:02:59 know how many were across but whatever um but we were right next to his table okay yeah it looked like center on yeah he wasn't sitting at his table a lot it was mostly his family but we were right next to his table okay yeah it looked like center on yeah he wasn't sitting at his table a lot it was mostly his family but we were like a stone's throw from his table um but it was uh it was crazy yeah he's like you guys are the the fans are the best we got so many of you we got these guys that went to jail for me um and then they put you up there you got a nice little pop it was good we got a surprise particularly at that stage of the night because i actually think we should reinvent these kind of events the guest of honor should speak halfway through because by the end of the night it was so much clapping and so much stuff you're done the crowd was out of
Starting point is 00:03:40 juice like like i actually felt really bad for Tom. I felt bad for Tom. You know what else I felt bad for? Jay-Z. Yeah. Jay, those people, and I understand they're not there for a Jay-Z concert, so whatever. But those people don't understand how, like, rare that, like, to get Jay to perform and to do, like, a song like that and, like to people were just walking around as Hov was performing. To be fair to the people.
Starting point is 00:04:08 It wasn't that no one knew that was coming. We did, but most, no one, it wasn't announced. There was no, like everyone give it up for Jay Z. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:18 They just played Tom Brady's music, which I think everyone probably just assumed, Oh, they're playing Tom Brady's entrance song. He's going to walk in. he's gonna walk in wait wait wait is that that that is like an official tom brady thing oh yeah that's why yeah that's why he came well that i mean i remember him uh putting out a video or whatever it was but like no his when he comes into the game when he takes the field okay allow me for warm-ups like They come out as a team. Right, right, right. But when he comes out for warm-ups, it's allow me to reintroduce. My name is Hope.
Starting point is 00:04:48 And Brady comes running out. Cool. What a duo. No one thought that it was – again, we had been told before. So we knew. So we were in our seats ready to go. But the – It could have just been playing over the speakers.
Starting point is 00:05:01 It could have been playing. It was an odd place. And there was the smoke and shit. Yeah. CJ's eye for a while. I thought he's not speakers. It could have been playing. It wasn't out of place. And there was the smoke and shit. You couldn't even see Jay-Z. Actually, for a while, I thought he's not there. They fucked up. I thought they put up too much smoke. I was like, they're not going to be able to see the stage for the whole three minutes.
Starting point is 00:05:12 People aren't going to know it's Jay-Z. Luckily, it dissipated a bit, but I was not positive. He just did that and was done? That song. That's fucking nuts. Hey, Jay, you want to just come do one song? He did one song. Kenny Chesney did one song
Starting point is 00:05:25 but yeah everything i heard was that it was like so so so so long the it was it was long but it wasn't it honestly wasn't that long i never felt stale but i did think that the crowd started to get stale there started to be, you could hear people talking a little bit. Yeah. And it's just like, because the same thing happened at the roast. At the roast, it was the same type deal. It was three hours. And by the time he got up there, it was kind of like, everyone's fucking tired.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Well, you know what the problem is? If you put someone midway, people will get up and leave early. What a move. It's a crazy move i think dave's doing an incredible spin of course you know you knew dave's bulletproof you know dave knows exactly what to do uh he keeps saying game three as if it's game seven he's like it was game three of the finals i was like if any if there's a game to miss it's game three when you're up to-0 like literally that's like the one game you could miss uh of course you know he'll spin it as i'm a big if you i said to whitney if you played that or if you played that clip of them on the unnamed show arguing for people who just did not
Starting point is 00:06:39 know the situation i think the people listening their logical conclusion would be like this guy plays for the cics, right? Like, he was genuinely talking. Like, I think we're at the point, and I don't know if he's probably right, where he thinks he impacts the games. Because, I mean, at this point, you know, there's more proof that he does impact it and win championships than not. But, you know, he can say it all he wants.
Starting point is 00:07:08 He's got to regret that. I honestly don't think he does. Well, he's so, like, everything he always, you know, can zig and zag. But we were talking in the car. It wasn't in the car. It was. So, first of all, I obviously am not. You know, I always give it the caveat that I hope the Celtics win, but I'm not going to pretend that I'm wholly invested in the Celtics. I don't know what I would do if it was the Bruins.
Starting point is 00:07:33 I don't think I'd leave because as Dave has said, as I've said to you, we knew that was coming. We didn't know what was being said, but we knew we were mentioned in the speech. That is even crazier to leave it therezier so i think that would keep me glued during a bruins game i think i'd be like also forget about like just for yourself like if i got invited by an owner and then knew i was getting shout out in a speech yeah i'm fucking staying for that speech that's just you know and then on top of it after that is my personal like i want to experience that yeah um it was i mean we we knew and did he did he leave like he went to the harp he went to the harp which is it's right it's in patriot place it's right next okay it's there's
Starting point is 00:08:18 it wasn't like he was like i'm going to a suite in the stadium it's like you leave the stadium leave the stadium yeah yeah it's right it's right outside but it yes it is a suite in the stadium. It's like you leave the stadium. Leave the stadium. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's right outside, but yes, it is leaving the stadium. That's crazy. But the – what was I going to say? Yeah, so we had been told by a couple of people that like, hey – people who didn't even know we were going to be there, like, oh, you guys are here? You're going to shout out in the speech. And like that's crazy um
Starting point is 00:08:45 so we had gas had had people watching it but i told gas like because someone it was someone i was sitting next to and i kind of leaned across the table i was like hey you're someone recording this right because apparently we're gonna shout out in the speech and and then i got up went to the bathroom at one point and i came back hank was in my seat because him and austin were watching the game on on a phone and then d I was sitting next to Dave now and Dave was watching like just he couldn't get to work on his phone so he was watching uh like just the score update and I don't know if I was locked in or zoned out I was one or the other I was either locked into the show or I was completely zoned out but i didn't hear any conversation and then there was just a kerfuffle at the table and i kind of like snapped out and everyone was standing i
Starting point is 00:09:30 was like wait you're just leaving and then hank and gas sat down i don't know if i was the impetus for that as i hear it now it seems like they might have a plan set in place but the yeah john john led the charge as far as i'm concerned john is the captain of the brady for at this point at this point john is the captain of the brady for not dave let's clip that and put that out and and and they kind of sat back down and then i saw dave leave and i i still was like is he gone gone yeah and because again we knew it was coming and i i couldn't as i understood at that point i think it was like a 15 point game i don't don't quote me on that um and then when it came we we definitely we knew we're getting mentioned we did not know about the jumble trying to like that and then because then if you watch
Starting point is 00:10:15 the video there's a woman who comes running over and she's like pushing me and gas yeah i think she's a production person like saying stand up like? Like stand-up. We've even got four guys who went to jail for me sitting right here as RKK's special guests. And that was Hank giving himself – I remember seeing PFT's tweet where he was like, he was like, Hank giving himself a standing ovation because Hank's going like this. And I was laughing at that.
Starting point is 00:10:53 But then I'm going like this too. Yeah, of course. Get the crowd going. But then we got back. We finally get to – because that was always the plan. We had a room at the Harp at 9.30. Because that was when it was supposed to end.
Starting point is 00:11:05 And then we were going to go right there. And I think, you know, if somebody told me that that's ending at 930, I'd say see you at 11. 100%. I said three hours the whole time. It's a good schedule. Two and a half. It's three for sure. Minimum.
Starting point is 00:11:17 Yeah. But then when we get there and we're kind of busted. I mean, like as much as people like us can bust Dave balls. Right. And it's just like, as much as people like us can bust Dave balls. Right. And it was just like, what are you doing? Whatever. And then, and he keeps, I texted you this, where he kept standing his ground. And it felt very much like the Good Will Hunting scene with Will and Robin Williams.
Starting point is 00:11:42 When Robin Williams was talking about, I got to go see about a girl. And he's like, I slid my thing across the table. And then he's like, you were there. You know, that whole thing. And Dave kept being like, nope, I have no regrets. I had to see about a girl. I had to see about the game. And then we would be like, yeah, but it was kind of sick.
Starting point is 00:11:57 And he goes, well, I didn't know it was going to be on the Jumbotron. Like, I didn't know Yaz was going to hit a home run. Right. right but like i just you know that is a once in a lifetime opportunity where anything could happen i don't know we might be on the jumbotron maybe fucking tom brady comes over to the table maybe like he says come up on stage i don't know but i'm gonna fucking see see it through to make sure um you know when you are so so on unnamed show he said that uh he was worried about he was like i'm gonna get mobbed leaving this place he would have yeah for sure it's just funny to say that at tom brady you know like there's a lot of people in the building that got to get out of the building but he probably would have been uh so he was like i wanted to get out and get there on time and he said that gaz and hank agreed
Starting point is 00:12:47 to that yeah and then he was going to leave first they would follow and they just didn't follow so i i do probably think that if you said something like you guys are fucking leaving it might have like snapped them out of it like hey man maybe we should i think the plan might have been gaz dave leaves and then they leave shortly thereafter yeah but then like by the time by the time the speech started. Then it was, the speech just started, and it was like, well, you can't leave in the middle of it. Kraft is speaking. What happens at the end of the speech is he gives Brady the jacket, and he talks.
Starting point is 00:13:13 So, like, it's kind of crazy to leave now. It's crazy to leave. It's just crazy to leave. When you're a special guest, and for, like, for, you know, again, the purposes of being polite. But also it's like this is the end of it. You guys began 20 years ago and it ends here. Maybe when he goes to the actual Hall of Fame, there's one more thing that he'll do. But this is for the Patriots.
Starting point is 00:13:40 This is the bookend. And you were a part of it and you're invited and you're there and you're there till like nine o'clock. And then you're like, I'm going to go at nine. Well, like it's so crazy. And I don't care what else is on or what you say.
Starting point is 00:13:58 That's a moment you want to have. Like when you're on your deathbed and they say, are you happy that you watched at a bar game three of the Celtics-Mavs, that's not going to be a big moment in your life. It's just not. It's either that or it's just what happened, is the greatest quarterback of all time chose to intertwine us forever. In his Hall of Fame induction speech, he chose to intertwine us. We are now inseparable with Tom Brady.
Starting point is 00:14:50 It was mentioned in his fucking Hall of Fame speech. Planned. They had producers being like, stand up. They won it. They were like, we're going to make you, not only are you intertwined, we're going to make you a highlight of the speech. It's unreal, man. Unreal. it's unreal man unreal i mean again when we when you've been in in in the game as long as he has he can spin anything he's bulletproof in a way that you just described where it's like
Starting point is 00:15:16 we can bust his balls but it'll just roll off his back he's definitely if it was someone else the tables returned anybody else at the company had i don't even know how somebody else could even have an equivalent thing going on i mean he would murder you he would crush you he'd make fun of you he would he would you know say you're gonna regret it for the rest of your life he would remind you about it every single day so of course he's not gonna just be like you know what though honestly this should have been a i took a mecca okafor yeah that probably should that's what you said right or no i didn't take a mecca okafor right or what was it uh okafor played for the yukon i don't know right so whatever it was when jim calhoun just like admitted uh admitted he got it wrong uh all right drafted a mecca oka Why? I'm butchering it. But you know what I mean. Like, it should have just been the, like, yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:16:08 I fucked that one up. But it is. It is. I don't know if it's because Dave's so good at these or he just always finds himself in these ones. Where the spin he's giving is excellent. The people who get bashed are people who leave games early, not people who leave events early to get to a game.
Starting point is 00:16:24 I know, but it's not an event it's like the event but it is a perfect uh you know i'm sorry for being such a big celtics fan yeah this is play and so the diehard celtics fans because there are people out there who are like i mean not many but there are probably people out there who care about basketball and not really about football they're like yeah like fuck you know you're a celtics fan i'm a celtics fan first uh uh you know it is the it's the only potential spin job i just still don't think it's enough to uh again like you're not like on the team or anything just watching it at a bar um so you know i crazy crazy though i love bill bill burr came out to me after, and he was like, first of all, I was shocked Bill Burr recognized me. I didn't know.
Starting point is 00:17:09 That doesn't surprise me, because he's always been a real Barstool guy. I know he's a monster. That's true. But he really always was, like, early. I mean, he came on our show when we were really pretty still, like, nobodies, you know? Yeah, and I was still terrified to interview him. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:17:22 Yeah, we were, like, thrown to the fire. Like, one of our first, you know, right? One of of our first in the grand scheme of things interviews was him and at that time too he also was like like he had a lot of youtube highlight reels of him being dicks to a dick to interviewers yeah and i was like we're next oh god damn but he came over and he said hi and then he asked where dave was and i was like he left and bill thought i was kidding yeah that's what i mean like this is not it's not like you didn't leave like a some shitty party to go to the game like you're not this is like the one event where that doesn't fly you know like this this was you know when, when Dave is talking about Boston sports,
Starting point is 00:18:05 like even though it's the Celtics in the finals, with the way the series is playing out, the Boston sports moment of the night was not the Celtics. Yeah. It was that. Yeah. So if you're repping Boston sports, like. Would you shout out Boston sports, by the way?
Starting point is 00:18:21 Because, first of all, that death may have been over exaggerated second of all in in the in boston last night in the new england area boston and foxborough there were probably roughly 90 000 people in seats at arenas or stadiums there was no live event at either that's kind of crazy they were they were watching the away games watch party was sold out at td garden great uh whoever like invented that trend it's so smart there was no live event at either. That's kind of crazy. They were watching the away games. The watch party was sold out at TD Garden. That's such a great, whoever invented that trend, it's so smart.
Starting point is 00:18:50 You probably just make, you sell tickets, right? I think you sell tickets. It's probably a lesser price, but it's such a great thing for kids. People who you can't afford, you can't take a kid to a $1,000 seat. But you can still feel the vibe.
Starting point is 00:19:06 Yeah, totally. Do you think in the future we'll have virtual? Because they already did it during the All-Star game where the court could change. Do you think that they'll have the game playing on the court for away games too? Instead of the Jumbotron? Probably.
Starting point is 00:19:22 Yeah, probably. I bet you they have. I never thought of that. I don't know if you could see it live but i bet right now they have some technology where if you had the recording you could do those little like star warsy type things yeah but you know what's crazy 90 000 people there's only like 400 000 people in boston right i don't know what the size is exactly the population of boston i really i't know what the size is exactly the population of boston i really i want to say massachusetts is like four million five million i i think this i think the city of boston is like under 500 000 people or like right around that
Starting point is 00:19:53 all right 650 so like if there's around 100 000 people there's a chunk of the whole fucking city there's a hundred thousand people doing something in new york it's like you know whatever it's 100 000 of 9 million uh so yeah that's uh yeah they're still doing their thing um so dave leaves leaves uh the thing early that's one thing um also hilarious that he was walking you guys walked a mile and a half from a McDonald's? He got mailed. He doesn't even know where it went, the parking pass. Right. And we were like, we're not staying.
Starting point is 00:20:37 I mean, we're not leaving right away anyway, so we don't really care. So it's not that big a deal to not have the parking pass because we knew we were going to the Harp after. Right. So we were meeting Hank and Elio. Is it Elio or Elio? Which one is it? That's why we're getting fucked up because Gaz's best friend is also. I mean, Dave's Elio is Elio.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Okay, so it's Elio. Gaz's is Elio. Mr. Ice, I'm going to call him. Who's the fucking funniest guy in the world, by the way? I love Mr. Ice. This is. Oh, yes. Yeah, Elio. I was going to say it might be Elio because Dave mispronounces things all the time. funniest guy in the world by the way i love mr rice this is oh yes yeah yeah i was gonna say it might be elio because dave mispronounces things all the time but dave says elio i don't
Starting point is 00:21:10 think i've ever heard confusing they both have a best friend named yeah elio and elio and i know them both well and i always like fuck which one's your name dude um maybe i i've used this this this line many times about who should write the book about Barstool. I want an Elio book. That's not the book of Barstool, but it's the book of Mr. Ice and Elio. He's just on a magic fucking carpet ride. And then he goes home and he has like nine girls, right? He has like nine daughters. He's like always doing shit with, but then he stays up late in his underpants
Starting point is 00:21:39 watching the hockey games and gambling Dave's money. It's not real. So we had gone to our table and we'd sat down and then we got up. And Elio's there? Elio's with us, yeah. So he just hitched a ride? Yeah. Like Dave got a plus one
Starting point is 00:21:56 and took Elio? I think Dave got a plus five or whatever. Okay, and Elio was like, I got it, I got it. That's hilarious. So we all sat down and then we heard word that we might be able to get a brady picture so we got back up and when there was a little pre-party in the tent kind of deal and but elio stayed seated and he got back and at your table they didn't have food food was in the tent but they they just had like little uh you know those cupcakes that
Starting point is 00:22:21 come in like six packs that everyone has now, the clear plastic thing? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Little mini cupcakes? Yes, yes, yes. So they had those. They had those that everyone had at their table, at their seat. And I guess Elio was just sitting there hammering the cupcakes at the table alone. And someone just walked by and goes, would you just come for the cupcakes? I ended up sitting next to him.
Starting point is 00:22:52 I don't know why everyone else walks so goddamn fast. Me and Elio just kept falling behind. Just the two of us. I don't know why they're sprinting right now. Yeah, I forgot what I was saying. He's the fucking man. So you parked at the McDonald's and the parking pass. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we picked them up there, and then we were actually just going to pick them up.
Starting point is 00:23:10 And then while we were there, we were like, let's just park here and then walk in. It ended up being a little further than I think we thought. Yeah, yeah. Whitney said that a state trooper texted him and was like, your boy's at the Don Brady thing tonight, right? And he's like, yeah. And he's like, why did I see him along route one trying to wave down an uber that that why that wasn't true that was we had a car we were going to a car he go yeah he was like dave was like that was not true we had a car it was parked at mcdonald's on a mile and a half away
Starting point is 00:23:38 um so that's the the one thing going on the bar Barstool universe one thing I want to say two things I want to say I called my dad after and I was like it was amazing it was so cool it is a little weird like now for me
Starting point is 00:23:55 because Tom Brady is 48 something like that you're not a kid anymore I'm 35 it's not that weird for a 48 and a 35 year old to be like I don't want to use the word peer because I'm obviously on his peer. But it wouldn't be that weird if we worked in the same office and we hung out.
Starting point is 00:24:11 It's a little different now. It's a little weird. I've always said once you're over 30 and then 35-ish, everybody's the same age. So it's weird now to have – I saw the pictures of what I looked like. You were in a Halloween costume. Well, everyone kept saying – hang on, let me finish this one first. The, I was just, like, I had such a glow. I was, like, I was looking at, but it's so weird now.
Starting point is 00:24:35 But when I started liking him, I was 11 and he was 24 or whatever. That's a huge age gap. Huge. Now it's just, like, now it's weird. Like, why do you love this guy like you're a kid? I don't know. That's when I started, and it's just not changing, it seems. It feels like I'm not maturing in this area of my life.
Starting point is 00:24:51 I don't know what else to tell you. Yeah, it's like this one thing where – and I also think it's allowed. It's the one area where it's allowed. At one point, Dave said, listen, I don't worship other adult men. And I was like, you don't? Wait, what now? I mean was like, you don't wait. What now? I mean,
Starting point is 00:25:08 but you know, it's, it's, uh, I got it. If anybody else did this, that would be insane. Yeah. But you gotta,
Starting point is 00:25:14 they gotta do it. It's a great shot. You look, you know what? Somehow you look younger. You like, you like age down for this event. Time travel.
Starting point is 00:25:23 It is. It's a great shot. was it was great it was i mean he being in his presence gave me a pregnancy glow like i might be pregnant now because i met tom brady and he didn't fuck me he was just there and i just it just changed everything about me um and then two other things oh yeah one people kept being like you guys are in the same outfits. This is crazy. Now, I will admit that I did get, I was in the same exact outfit in the sense that I had a blue sweatshirt tied around my waist. I went and bought blue Chuck Taylors that I didn't have.
Starting point is 00:25:55 I went and bought black socks that I didn't have. I was in the full outfit. So they were right. However, at the same time, I was like, it's a Brady jersey. There's a million people here in this costume. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That is true. It's like, whoa, you got the same outfit. was like it's a brady jersey there's a million people here in this costume yeah yeah that is true it's like whoa you got the same outfit it's a brady jersey you got the eye black you got the bandanas you know uh gaz gaz did like the full gaz almost went blackface again gaz had said that he's like i'm a little off black
Starting point is 00:26:21 black well whatever he said. I don't know. But I called my dad after. And I was talking about it. And he's like, it's such a great night. Yada, yada, yada. And I was like, it was amazing. Met all these cool people. I was like, do you know who I met?
Starting point is 00:26:41 And they were just so cool. It was great. They oozed cool. And he who it's like john bon jovi oh you fucking think john henry you think one of the greatest rock stars of all time was cool i was like yeah well now that you're saying it yeah you're right but it was but we didn't you know he probably thinks of him as like one of those all all-time rock stars. He lived right through his prime and everything.
Starting point is 00:27:07 For us, I can understand you being like, he's even cooler than I thought. But yeah. He was like Walton Goggins when he was so nice and so down to earth. But you were still like, but you're not like me. He wasn't like, he's a regular guy. No, you're different. You got that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:22 He's got the look with the hair. Oh, is that Zoe? Yeah. Yeah. That's a great look with the hair. Oh, is that Zoe? Yeah. Yeah. That's a great shot. Because you know what? Yours, maybe you had a jersey, but there's every chance that Dave doesn't have that vest anymore.
Starting point is 00:27:31 That's his vest. Yeah. Or whatever, you know, like that. It was cool that you guys were able to recreate it like almost entirely. So that's the one big thing going on in the Barstool universe. I had my cousin text me probably the greatest line I've ever heard afterwards. He goes, honestly, at this point, for voluntary arrests, it's one Rosa Parks, two you guys. Certainly in the Boston area.
Starting point is 00:28:02 I can tell you in the Boston area they care about one way more than the other i mean it's really it's it's one thing you know with dave becoming who he is but like for for gaz and hank and then you to some extent too like you know there are it's there's there's millions or i don't know maybe hundreds of thousands based on what we just did a google search for of guys who like would kill to be you guys you know just be like we are you know we live and die for this guy but these guys are tom brady knows him and respects him and like you said intertwines his career he chose to mention us in his hall of fame induction speech like we are inseparable now he made that decision to make us inseparable it's cool he always he always did rep you guys but he
Starting point is 00:28:52 had to like tweet and delete and he couldn't say too much and now that it's all over he like you can tell he really fucking appreciate it that means when it was happening he was like behind closed doors being like fuck yeah these guys are awesome i'm surprised he didn't like send you guys shit fucking you know really really hook you up um heroes scott zola heroes um rico bosco and uh the basketball saga is oh wait we're gonna get on that one second i one more thing i want to say is the funniest part of last night i'm gonna try and do it right i don't know if i can do it because mine's on too tight instead of a polo imagine this is a button-down shirt uh-huh somebody wore their wristband this is how gronk had it he had a he had a sport going on but then he when he was talking it kept falling out and i was just like that looks like something a kid would do it was killing me it was above the cuff on his
Starting point is 00:30:01 button down i was i was in the seat fucking dying. I don't know why. It just looked so funny. The logic behind that. Did you put those on or someone put them on you? No, you put them on yourself. Yeah. So he just slid it on us.
Starting point is 00:30:16 Pulled it. He was like, that's right. I don't know where this goes. That's correct. Over the jacket. That would look crazy. I'll put it over my cuff. The jacket would be nuts. i'll do my best but i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm done now oh man um what about rico rico and uh and the barstool basketball saga um
Starting point is 00:30:39 dude him in the sling talking with his hands is so funny. This dude, Gus, is a psychopath. Doing that on a basketball court, you have no regard for anybody's life. If Rico, his face smashed into the ground, but he obviously fell on his arm too. If his head hits first, he's like walking away paralyzed. I mean, that move, you watched it, right, Paz? Did you see the actual move? I mean, like, it's like the one thing rational humans, like, you know, like Draymond Green won't do that to you.
Starting point is 00:31:21 You know what I mean? Like dirty guys still know that when you're in the air, you don't just like scoot underneath it. You can't play sports when you really don't like each other. And there's enough not liking each other at Barstool. You know, like these guys up in the Minahan world feel like they get like left out. And there's New York versus Chicago.
Starting point is 00:31:41 And there's these rivalries with this guy and that guy. When you get on the court or any sort of athletic shit, it gets too chippy. You know what I mean? It's not just like, hey, let's get your side versus my side and play some hoops. It's like we don't like each other, and if I get a chance to, I'm going to fucking hurt you. He also nailed somebody last week on a breakaway. He just shoved him in the back. So that guy, I don't know what he is.
Starting point is 00:32:03 I'm assuming a producer or something. If that arm does not get down there, man, that is like broken face, concussion. I'm really surprised he didn't just straight up punch him in the face. I guess he tried to, yeah. I don't know basketball well enough to speak on this, but I'm kind of on Gus's side.
Starting point is 00:32:25 No. It's just no. I'd have to know what the equivalent is in other sports because I'm on record here for saying, like, when we're playing sports, I want to hurt you. Yeah, that's true. I don't want to. I think it's so dumb now.
Starting point is 00:32:43 I'm probably not going to do cheap shot. Again, I'd have to know what the equivalent is in hockey. Yeah, like, what's the cheap, like, you know, fucking Todd Bertuzzi. Fucking, you know. See, that's extreme. But, like, I slew footed people all the fucking time. I didn't give a shit. Like, if this is comparable to a slew foot, I'll slew foot you.
Starting point is 00:32:59 I don't care. That's when you step on someone with their skate? No, I kick out your feet from behind. I don't even think that's when you step on someone with their skate? No, I kick out your feet from behind. I don't even think that's... I think it's probably like when you shove someone's head into the boards. Isn't that like
Starting point is 00:33:13 they're getting the puck from behind and you fucking cross check up against the board. I'd do that. For sure. You're a psycho, man. You should not play sports ever again. I don't do it now anymore well that's what's insane when we're doing field day
Starting point is 00:33:27 but I don't know if we were playing a hockey game against like Kirk Manahan I'd probably do something like this like when we're doing field day and shit like that that's all fun but in this
Starting point is 00:33:37 I'd probably try and hurt you where are you at your most vulnerable in hockey probably a slew foot and that's the question there ask an answer because like you can see like he rico's going up and you see him scoot under and it's like i'm gonna try to get underneath this person while they're in the air that is like you you are going to land you're gonna go like ass up and you're gonna land on your head or your neck or your spine.
Starting point is 00:34:06 Basketball is different because it's not a contact sport. But, like, yeah. The only reason I'm hitting someone is to hurt them. There's ways to be, like, a tough guy in basketball and, like, do cheap shots and, like, send messages. And that's, like, in the paint. Like, that right there in the basketball world would be considered, like, a pussy move. Yeah, you're a pussy. Like, that's a pussy move. That's not a tough guy shit. That's not cool the basketball world would be considered a pussy move. Yeah, you're a pussy. That's a pussy move.
Starting point is 00:34:26 That's not a tough guy shit. That's not cool. Sloop was probably a pussy move too. I think we figured out. I thought we were going to prove you wrong. I don't think. I think you're on Gus's side. I don't want to injure you, but I want you to hurt.
Starting point is 00:34:42 And if you get injured in that process, so be it. Then you are on Gus's side. Again, I really thought I was going to convince you of otherwise, but you are on Gus's side. Gus somehow is in a sling, too. So they had a sling off. They had a sling off on their show. Rico going hip-hop, hip-hop with both of his arms is so goddamn funny.
Starting point is 00:35:07 I, you know, like that move there is if Rico literally turned around and fucking unloaded a haymaker on him, I think anybody that, you know, played basketball would be like totally okay. Absolutely okay. that you know played basketball would be like totally okay absolutely okay and that's you know coming from rico who like you know is is on his 50 millionth strike i think he's it still would have been like that's okay rico's a lot to do that in that in that spot um the the uh you said like the basketball people watching hockey people listening probably like he's a fucking lunatic it wouldn't be i'll give you an example i did a fucking lunatic like it's it wouldn't be
Starting point is 00:35:46 I'll give you an example I did this every single faceoff it's not quite a slew foot but like if we're at a faceoff I played wing and we're standing
Starting point is 00:35:53 next to each other if that's your foot hang on let me stand up when when the puck dropped we're standing like this puck dropped
Starting point is 00:36:01 I would kick you every time Jesus Christ that's gonna like that's gonna injure you or that's gonna like make you fall it would we're standing like this, puck drop, I would kick you every time. Jesus Christ. That's gonna, like, that's gonna injure you or that's gonna, like,
Starting point is 00:36:08 make you fall? It would, my goal, or, like, fuck you up, you know? My goal was always to just,
Starting point is 00:36:12 like, have you go off balance. Yeah, right. If you fell, you fell. I mean, if you got hurt,
Starting point is 00:36:16 you got hurt. Yeah, but you're, so you're falling from, like, you're standing on the ground and you fall on, like,
Starting point is 00:36:21 your ass. Yeah, well, this is, like, you're in the air. The danger of the slew foot is the slam in your head.
Starting point is 00:36:26 Back of your head. Okay, so that. Is that illegal? No, no, no. Very, very, very illegal. Okay, so that is. But I mean, I guess it takes. I guess if you're on skates and you're whoop.
Starting point is 00:36:35 Yeah, I wouldn't do a full kick out. I try and hurt you other times with a slew foot. I was a little more gentle. This is like you're in the air and usually you come down on your feet and now you'll be coming down on your head so yeah it wasn't that clear cut yeah but so it's gravity is pulling you down and you're going to land on your face and head instead of of uh your your the bottom of your feet um but rico is is rico and and so people are like i I think if Gus did this to somebody else, I think he'd be like fired. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:37:06 It's like, you know, I don't ever want to be near Gus in any situation because it lets me know that you just don't have a regard for human life. I don't have a regard for my own life. What makes you think I have a regard for yours? You're fucking nuts. That's true. You got to know your opponent. What does Sun Tzu say? true you gotta know your opponent what does sun tzu say you gotta know your opponent uh and then and then the last thing is the uh the
Starting point is 00:37:31 beer olympics which is right now uh another dave portnoy you know he's run this play this is power sweep dave now supporting the beer Olympics, selling merch and championing. What is that merch? I saw it. It's just merch for Dave to be like, I'm supporting the beer Olympics so much. Like the Olympic rings. But is it the Pittsburgh Steelers logo on it? I didn't really understand the merch.
Starting point is 00:38:04 That doesn't play for the Steelers, right? No, that's the Olympics. What are the stars inside? Oh. That might have been, what, Bussin? I think that's just their way to make a difference. Isn't that what the Steelers logo looks like? Kind of.
Starting point is 00:38:18 It's not exactly those stars. They're bigger stars. It's one star that fills up a circle with three of them. Yeah. That looks pretty similar similar i don't know that i that to me i just thought was the bus and beer games logo in the first place but um you know i i think everybody has their their their their turn where dave makes a mockery of your of your thing and then turns it into his thing. And you're just like, God damn it.
Starting point is 00:38:50 And that's what happened to Slick Willie. You, by association though, that's become, I feel, potentially a big showdown in The Dozen. Yes. potentially a big showdown in in the dozen yes where you know like this has nothing to do with the dozen but it's going to become will and dave because they're going at it right now i don't know if you saw the quote your boy said uh i'll slap the shit i'll slap the shit out of you but i'd be charged with elderly abuse you're a bad leader and if i saw you i would slap the shit out of you but but i'd be charged with elderly abuse so So now it's on. And it's, again, one of those things where it's like everybody's laughing and we're on the show. But, like, deep down there's real issues and fighting.
Starting point is 00:39:32 So now if you do face off ZD versus Boozehounds, it's going to mean a lot. Do we know the matchups, by the way? No, we wouldn't play ZD until, like, the finals. Okay. Well, then even more so. We'll play the Yak game two. And's dan so so i i uh i texted the booze ponies today um i say win or lose we beat the fucking shit out of them it would be really funny if the booze ponies was just like hey we beat everybody like you charge the stage and beat up people.
Starting point is 00:40:05 You're not even in their match. Yeah. I mean, it's definitive, right? There's not even a team. There's no other team that could. No, I don't think so. I don't know. There's not even, like, another one guy that would even, right?
Starting point is 00:40:20 I imagine Large can tussle. I think it's Jake Marsh. Is David Andrews still play on the team? Yeah, that's funny. I saw him last night, and he was saying that they can't. So they made the tournament, but they're not going because Andrews didn't know what he was doing. He's like, I'll play some trivia.
Starting point is 00:40:38 I didn't know there's this event at the end. And he's like, I get three weeks off a year. It's during one of my off weeks he said that if if dave got him in yandla private jet they'll go they'll go for the and dave was like what are you talking about um but yeah i would um i would take marty yandle and andrews over us if uh if it came to that but yeah but yeah, yeah. But that's, yeah. So just beat him up. Like, hey, you want like- I'll say this, that text was well received.
Starting point is 00:41:13 I mean, it would just be like wrestling, you know? It's like, just throw him through the tables, throw him through the podiums and shit. Be like, whatever. That's what we came to do. Content, baby. I was talking to Will recently about something completely different
Starting point is 00:41:26 and it was like a roommate I used to have in college and he was smarter than me and when we'd get in fights he'd win so I would hit him and he'd be like you always do this you just make things physical
Starting point is 00:41:40 well you're doing the thing you're good at so I'm going to do the one I'm good at you have a certain set of skills You have a certain set of skills. I have a certain set of skills. Mine hurts you a lot more. There is still a fucking, what do you call it? Who can eat who? Food chain.
Starting point is 00:41:58 Food chain. There's still a fucking food chain. And it happens, yeah. That's true it's like in 99 of everyday life having your brain power probably a better thing you know you probably make some more money have a better job uh you know get promoted bonuses whatever but if shit hits the fan mine always plays when the zombie apocalypse starts like you want mine not yours trust not yours That was such a good example of how I'm the dumb one What do you call a thing where you can eat the other thing?
Starting point is 00:42:32 I always pick up on when you're trying to explain something You got the meat headed too It's the idiot brain You guys have an unspoken language It's like Planet of the Apes They can kind of grunt, they can kind of talk Oh, oh, dig, ding, ding. And he goes, oh, oh, Foochie.
Starting point is 00:42:50 Caesar, say Foochie. Hilarious. I love it. And then was there some... Oh, we went to cricket the other day. Yes, how was that? I was very sad to miss that. It was awesome.
Starting point is 00:43:05 It was awesome. Who won? No. But we played – India is the number one team in the world. And we made it tight. Like we all went in blind. I meant to like watch like some YouTubes and like learn. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:19 I knew what I was watching and I did not do that. So I went in totally blind and we eventually started to pick up on how it works it's like here's how i described it it's taking baseball and turning it into basketball scoring and the game itself is like baseball running bases and wiffle ball all combined but also kind of football scoring with the six points yes there's the six points in it it's but it was very so when you you have me and you would be a a battering team if you will battery uh meaning we both i hit and then we have we switch spots and that's a run so if i hit the ball and then you run to my wicket and i run to your wicket that's one run okay but you don't have to run when you hit the ball.
Starting point is 00:44:07 So if you hit the ball right at someone and they can throw the ball at those wickets before you get there, you don't have to run. You can hit the wicket with the ball? Yeah. Oof, that's a fucking problem. I think, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:16 Yeah. And that counts as points. It's bad for you. Right. So you don't have to run. That's almost like a foul ball. So there's a lot of times where they just hit the ball at somebody and they just stay put but then when you like hit it in a gap they go so you can keep going you can yeah but here let me get to that because there's a problem
Starting point is 00:44:34 the three of us are going to fix olympic usa olympic uh cricket um the whole field is a circle. If you hit the ball to the – there's like a lip, like a little edge around the grass. And if it hits that, you get four points. And if it goes over it on the fly, that's a home run worth six points. And there was enough of those. It was probably like – we didn't – we hit a couple. They hit like three or four. Yeah, there was probably ten total.
Starting point is 00:45:00 Yeah, so there's enough moments where it's like, oh, like home run. And if – so this is called T20. So that means 20 innings, basically. But you can also end the game by getting eight wickets. And a wicket is if you bowl the ball and they swing and miss it and it hits it, that's like three strikes. One shot, you're out. If you catch a fly ball ball that's one of them uh and if they throw the ball and it hits the wicket and knocks the wicket is three stumps and then it has these two things on top of it and if those fall it's like
Starting point is 00:45:36 an out and there's a couple other ways that you can get wickets and if you get to eight of those the game's just like over you win so i think you have to have more points in them but it just ends their chances so you have these moments where like a fly ball is like a huge fucking deal the crowd's like oh and like we dropped one and it was like oh my god so like we picked up on all that and the real the real when i really picked up on it was you do all your batting first you don't go back and forth back and forth in innings you go all your 20 innings so we scored 110 points so india took took the field on offense down 100 yeah but they're like we just have to get to 111 okay and so the whole thing for for us felt like one gigantic bottom of the ninth where you need to hold on
Starting point is 00:46:26 with 110 runs so they have up on the scoreboard points needed to win versus number of pitches left so if you have you need a lot of points and there's only few pitches left usa is winning the game but if it switches that means india's ahead so that that's the number to watch right and there was it got down to like they need 30 runs with like 25 pitches left and i was like this like it's pretty close and then Team USA got a five-point penalty for not switching. You have 60 seconds to change your defense or whatever, and they just took their sweet time and got hit with a five-point penalty, and then a guy hit a six-point home run,
Starting point is 00:47:17 and it was just like, see you fucking later. And I was like, I've known this feeling. This is just a new sport, a new team to feel like the fucking assholes. But when you ask if they can run more than once, you can. And it's very rare that it happens. And I don't know. Maybe this sounds like when somebody hits a ground ball at a second and they just jog down the baseline because it's like, I'm out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:42 And we as baseball fans know that. But if you were to watch it, you'd be like, these guys aren't even trying maybe it's like that but there was a lot of times where i was like it's not that far of a distance it's like if you bust your ass i think like i think you should be running and like diving over the line yeah and you could get doubles basically and triples you know however many times you run that would be the equivalent and it felt like you know you hit a ball in the gap and you stop at first base it's like that was a double dude uh and i don't know if that's because it like is still rooted in like a gentleman's game where it's like you know you don't you don't try to get me out and i won't take an extra base or whatever but bro it's the world cup like let's fucking go like you don't
Starting point is 00:48:23 have to know the sport to know hustle and all of us were watching like a ball hitting the gap and they were kind of like just jogging over to get it i was like get the fucking ball and throw it in but you know also at the same time these guys like uber drivers and it guys so it's like i'm not that fast you know what i mean like i'm not a fucking i that i can't tell i can't tell if we have like world-class players or you know i mean i guess on some level we do we beat pakistan we were hanging with india for a while if we beat ireland we'll be into the second round of the world cup so they're good they're good but i'm like you know it there was a a i guess you have
Starting point is 00:49:02 to remember they're playing with no glove so if you play the outfield with no gloves – It's a hard ball. Yeah. It's like a baseball. So like this guy – I don't know if I deleted it from my phone or not. This guy made like a jumping catch and it was a big moment. And I certainly would probably spaz out while doing it but um you know when i watched it back i was kind of like i was kind of like well you know it's not like ken grippy jr out there
Starting point is 00:49:31 oh yeah yeah you know it's like i couldn't i certainly couldn't do that but it was like he just kind of caught it and rolled over and i was like oh my god like this high off yeah that was phil mickelson of the Masters. Yes. Yeah. So that was the game, the sport. I legitimately, if I can, I will watch the Friday match with Ireland. I actually like that. I will also watch it. And I'm not – I'm never that guy. I'm never like, lacrosse is the sport of the future.
Starting point is 00:50:01 We're going to be a soccer country one day. I don't know how much this is going to catch on, but if I took an interest in it, I think if most people just got to watch it, future we're gonna be a soccer country one day i don't know how much this is gonna catch on but if i took an interest in it i think if most people just got to watch it they would be down with it too um but the so the on the field is one thing the rest of the experience was wild i mean we we went to a foreign country for the afternoon it was in nassau county uh we were in india we were in india and i don't i mean maybe there's also pakistani and sri lankan and whatever else but like brown people we were the only white people really the only white people i saw were firefighters and policemen
Starting point is 00:50:39 and like military who were there to like do security yeah yeah maybe we walked past there was one guy one white guy as i was walking down it was at kfc and he was a stoolie and then we passed those three guys coming out of the stadium like that was it i'm not i'm really not exaggerating i was looking through some of the videos i took like looking in the in the crowd like none none and even like the food is all halal and like you know there was, there was hot dogs. You probably got some good fucking halal. I'm sure it was good if you like that food. The only like American stuff was soft pretzel and a hot dog.
Starting point is 00:51:11 And the rest was like, even like the French fries were done like Indian style. Because, of course. Yeah, yeah. It's like if you had a bunch of shit that they don't eat. You know, the concessions wouldn't make any money. I don't know if this is a thing uh in general or just the world cup i've always known this about asian people with photography the amount of pictures that these indian people took was unbelievable they we sat i stupid me i thought i wanted to get the front row
Starting point is 00:51:42 of the high the higher level. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Usually I think that's a good seat, you know? For sure. But it also meant that people wanted to take pictures with the pitch as the backdrop. You walk down the stairs and take a picture there. And when I tell you, I sat on the aisle. When I tell you it was an endless parade of just people taking pictures and kind of like sitting on my shoulder.
Starting point is 00:52:04 I was kind of like this. I not kidding it never stopped the only time it stopped was there was this big black security guard with dreads and you and like a grill and he kept being like sit the fuck down you're not allowed to do this otherwise they and do you notice they all were sharing signs yeah that was crazy yeah like one person made a sign that said american by address but indian by heart and they all used that sign i think they were like like you know you can have it next so it was a lot of uh that reminds me of the uh shohei with honeyball when shohei played in japan last year and shohei had a home run and the whole crowd just passed the ball around yeah and then got it back to the person who did it but like they just passed around take a picture i think that was what and then there was another one that said
Starting point is 00:52:48 my boss thinks that i'm uh sick today ro hit make it make him make it worth it or something like that and ro hit was like the star of the indian team and they all took a picture with that and they all had american flags and indian flags it was kind of weird because it was like everybody was cheering for everything because it was either like you're rooting for India because you're from India or you live in America and you like it here so you also root for these guys. So it was just it was a wild cultural experience
Starting point is 00:53:14 though. They were, the pictures were just, I mean, I was trying to get I'll look at my phone and see if I have enough I didn't want to be an asshole like videoing these random people all day but I mean, I could probably put together a compilation of just like a hundred people like sitting on top of my head Holding a flag in front of me. Just like you cannot do that The moment at the very end goes we're not sitting on the stairs guys
Starting point is 00:53:39 Because they I mean they just well when we first showed up We had the first front row. And somebody was sitting there. And I was like, oh, do I have the wrong section? And they were like, no, no, it's yours. You're good. And they were like, can we just take pictures before you go? They saw the four seats and took them. We didn't get there that late, though.
Starting point is 00:53:59 We got there pretty quickly. Five minutes in? And then the funniest thing was the end, after the game. We get up and leave right as the game is ending. Because I was like, I want to beat this rush. Because this is going to be madness. We're going to end up like those trains in India where people are hanging off fucking sides. So I had driven.
Starting point is 00:54:21 They took the train. And I had a VIP pass that was right next to the stadium. So I had like a VIP pass that was like right next to the stadium. So I was like, all right, I'm going this way. You guys got to go that way. They go on their walk. They had to take a shuttle to get to the train station. They had to do a million things. They can describe that in a second.
Starting point is 00:54:37 I remember being like really close to an exit. It was like, oh, right there. But they just built this stadium. So it's not like when you go to a state like giant stadium like oh right there but they just built this stadium so it's not like when you go to a state like like giant stadium ushers can be like oh you got to go to gate d around this way these are people just like working for like a weekend so they're like i don't fucking know where anything is and they ended up herding me into one main exit when i'm pretty sure i could have gone out of like a v exit. And I literally like I, there was a line like I,
Starting point is 00:55:07 like the security line that usually go into, I was crossing back the other way. And I took like one step over the line and then I turned around and I was like, where is the land in parking lot? And this guy was like, Oh, it's like the other side of the stadium.
Starting point is 00:55:19 You went the wrong way. And I turned around and they were like, no reentry. And I was literally like this side of the line. And they were like no re-entry and i was literally like on this side of the line and they were like nope can't do it and they are this security was there was the whole thing with india and pakistan where they thought there was gonna be like a bomb threat so there was like fucking ar-15 military guys they had the mac trucks out so there was no you know terrorist truck drivers it was it was pretty intense security so i started to be like no no i'm going back that way and and there was enough of like a hubbub that
Starting point is 00:55:49 i was like okay yeah so now i'm herded out into onto merrick avenue i think it's merrick avenue is it yeah merrick avenue long island's one of these major roads and i have to walk like probably a mile and a half to the fucking McDonald's. And as I'm doing it, I mean, there's just barriers that just keep blocking me off from cutting where I need to get to. And as I walk in, there's a cop along the way. And I go, where's the Landon parking lot? He's like, bro, it's like in the stadium. Like, what are you doing? And I was like, these people herded me out the wrong way.
Starting point is 00:56:24 And he goes, okay, get to the corner where the cops are. They'll let you in, but you have to have your parking pass. And as I was walking out of the stadium, I knew I was on like 2%. And I was taking pictures and videos all day. And I was like, I should stop because I might need my phone. And then I was like, I have my charger in the car. I'll be fine. The one time I get to the spot and the woman goes, let me see your pass.
Starting point is 00:56:48 And I go, all right, I got to do this fast, though. I know I have like half a percent. So I'm going to open it up and try to get there and try to show it to you. And she's like, okay, let's do it. Totally dead. Didn't even get one second. And I think one of the other cops recognized me and talked to his guy. And he was like yeah
Starting point is 00:57:05 go ahead like you're fucking two miles away but like good luck and he goes just walk on the side side of the road uh on the grass so you don't get waffled so i start walking and i'm like sweating and i'm like looking for the stadium and i turn around and i see these three idiots coming the other way. They're a mile and a half away from where they need to be. They went to, like, where the cars were, and I went to where the trains were. And I literally was scanning, and I see these three. I was like, well, fancy seeing you guys here.
Starting point is 00:57:40 Jackie said she thought it was a mirage. We had been walking for legitimately, like. They just found me on the side of the road. Kevin just goes, oh, how crazy is this? garage i couldn't believe it if i had my i wish i had my phone ready because i was just gonna start filming them i was like i know those three people they're the only three other everyone else is going where they need to go there's four fucking white people in the whole stadium and they don't know where they're going like a minute before we saw you i was like because cars are passing it was the only way to get out so you think kevin would have stopped for us right like jack was yeah he would have stopped for us and then a minute later just like i'm not even and then i'm like i i was like all right like i'll see you guys later you know like good luck on your journey and and i hopefully i survived mine
Starting point is 00:58:22 and uh a golf cart comes zipping by and pavs like held it down he was like oh can you take this guy and i jump in and he was kind of uh i was like can you take me to the landon parking lot he was like yeah i'm actually going right there and then as we were driving he he kept giving me one of these he was like a young kid yeah and he put it all together and so he was like happy he drove me like right to my fucking door in my car. And I actually was going to try to go find you guys, but they funneled me out. Yeah, we just found the speedway and just sat out there. It was – when I found these three, I just – I couldn't believe it. At the same time, I totally couldn't.
Starting point is 00:58:56 It was like seeing you like just alone, like in the middle of a field. Yeah. And you just go, well, how crazy is that? It was like, hey, guys. It was, well, how crazy is that? It was like, hey, guys. He goes, well, how crazy is that? I was like, is that real? Yeah, we both were like, you know, there's no sidewalks. There's no walking where we were all walking.
Starting point is 00:59:16 I was like, we probably looked just, we didn't know the sport. I'm YouTubing the games. I'm sure the people who sat behind us because the whole time we're turning around going i think that guy should have done this and that they probably like rolling their eyes we can't find her our way home we were just we were the fucking worse than cricket man uh but worth it but worth it so worth it so worth it so worth the shout out to game time they made it happen uh it was like one of the hottest tickets in in new york city i think you know some tickets were going for like $3,000.
Starting point is 00:59:47 So thank you so much for that. I highly recommend going to it if you can go. And if we beat Ireland, I'm pretty sure we're through to the Super 8. So hopefully we have more cricket to come. Game time. The official ticketing partner of Barstool Sports, Team USA Cricket, is officially on to the next round. Jackie, maybe we're going to fly down to the Caribbean
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Starting point is 01:01:39 $20 off your first purchase, terms apply. Download the GameTime app today. Last-minute tickets, lowest price guaranteed. We're getting to our voicemails now, but while we pull them up, I got some feedback on Jackie snapping the rubber band and how she's just like
Starting point is 01:01:54 a pure psychopath for having no remorse. And Aria, who used to work for us, said the type of girl who would just walk onto a bus and chop somebody's head off with no remorse.
Starting point is 01:02:06 That's the feedback I'm getting on your rubber band behavior. He learned. I just want a flashback. The one from yesterday was really bad last night. I don't know. Why do yours hurt and bruise up so bad? I think I'm just soft. But why does she have rhino I think I'm just soft. What does she have? Rhino skin?
Starting point is 01:02:27 I don't know. Don't make another. It just doesn't affect her. I think I would get welts too. When you get hit with a rubber band, you get a welt. Maybe. I don't know. You probably have rhino skin too. Nothing? When I tell you...
Starting point is 01:02:46 Oh, this is tight. How high? As high as it goes. Yeah, it doesn't hurt. Maybe the inside of your wrist was bruised? I think it is the inside of my wrist. I feel like if you hit the inside of my wrist with a rubber band, it would fucking welt up. And whether or not it hurts, usually you get a physical reaction.
Starting point is 01:03:04 Just nothing on Jackie. And Pav's wrist is falling off. I think I'm just soft. True blood yesterday. You get control if you bleed. I do feel bad, but I don't regret it. Yeah, this is not going to shock anyone after our talk ten minutes ago. I'm with Jackie here.
Starting point is 01:03:21 We'll fuck people up. Psychos. Don't wear something I can hurt you with if you don't want to get hurt well that's she just said she kept saying stop wearing rubber bands it's a valid point i don't know what you guys are doing he's got the bats you're just doing it boys quick story time i'm about 17 years old with my family having Thanksgiving dinner. My mom, my siblings. Wait, currently? You can't be.
Starting point is 01:03:49 You can't be. As we pass around this gross-ass food, my mom just looks up and says, Oh, so Kevin's sexually active. I'm Kevin. And I replied, What? Which I don't think I've ever made that noise before after that moment. And she said, oh yeah, I heard him on the phone saying this and that.
Starting point is 01:04:11 My natural inclination was to take a butter knife and to slice my throat and just get it all over the fucking yams. But I didn't. Didn't ruin the holiday. I didn't want my family thinking about me eating ass as we're about to go fucking well you didn't take stuffing out of the ass of a turkey so i kept it cordial and yeah she just
Starting point is 01:04:32 blew up my spot it was the most awkward experience by far and so my question is have you ever had a family gathering or just even a social setting where someone just blew up your spot completely with random acts of violence i mean love you boys love you too kev uh i don't uh you know i don't know if it's like an irish thing i mean we don't talk about like anything like that yeah we're all together as far as my parents know, I am not sexually active. Right, right. I got a couple kids and they're like, I still don't think so. Him saying that reminds me of one of my favorite
Starting point is 01:05:11 Sunny lines when Gail the snail is fighting with her mom. She's like, you can't tell me what to do anymore, mom. I'm sexually active now. She goes, you're 32 years old. You're supposed to be sexually active. Yeah, 17's a different story when you're when you're you know are you or are you not you get that announced to the fucking thanksgiving table i mean as a guy it's kind of like goddamn right mom um man i can't i got nothing that even remotely compares
Starting point is 01:05:42 i've never had it blow up like that at a family gathering. But this is actually, I think, one of the cornerstones of who I am as a person. What do you call them? Waterhead moments? Foundational event or whatever it is. Core memories? Core memories. I don't really know.
Starting point is 01:06:01 Change your life forever. My food chain. But I remember I was probably 15, 16 years old. Canon event. Canon event, sure. I was in the bathroom upstairs in my sister's bedroom. She had the master bedroom upstairs. And so we all had to use her bathroom. And I had the shower the shower running and i was talking my buddy about a party party we had and then i opened the door to grab a towel and my mom
Starting point is 01:06:31 was just standing in the doorway and she's like heard all that and like i have something we're talking about drinking and like nothing nothing sexual but just like talking about drinking and partying all that stuff at way too young an age and from that moment on i like stopped speaking out loud in public i think i've said that i'm only talking to a microphone when i know like i won't i don't like talking in cabs i don't like talking in ubers i don't like talking like yeah that's how i am without that event though it's like i don't want anybody hearing any of my shit nobody knows any of my business i don't like that unless i tell you everybody knows all my business because i
Starting point is 01:07:03 told you my business but nothing going forward do you guys have anything um no i mean i've told the story of like no what sorry no the story of like the with like my ex in high school and the cop oh yeah whatever pray tell i don't remember okay so um my ex from high school our moms were friends and they like played tennis together all the time and so then we started talking i obviously didn't tell my mom or whatever. And, like, I, like, kind of, like, snuck around. How old were you? 17, 16, 17. And basically, like, they had heard, like, nothing. And so then I went to go hang out with him.
Starting point is 01:07:58 And he, we had just, like, gone to, like, an obvious hookup spot. And we're, like, just,'re just hooking up in the car. And a cop walks in in not a good time. Rips the door open. And he was like, you can't park here. And he was like, you guys are underage and it's past curfew. So then we both had to call our parents and explain. The cop was such a fucking narc and made us explain where we are,
Starting point is 01:08:35 what we're doing here. I was like, do I have to explain? And we were just looking at the sunset. And it was like I had gone out at way past sunset. So it was like there was no way to be like – We're rounding third base, mom. So he like – he sat there or stood there and made – tell her. Tell her what – That feels like a –
Starting point is 01:08:52 Which was so weird. So I'm topping this guy off, mom. I like didn't have like – he like didn't like be like, oh, sorry, sorry. Yeah, he wanted to like hear that. Yeah, it was like weird. That's a creep. didn't like be like oh sorry sorry yeah he wanted to like hear that yeah it was like weird and so then i like called my mom i was like yeah yeah we're like um just you know it's a nice lookout spot and we just wanted to look out so you guys actually had like a makeout point like you drive
Starting point is 01:09:17 to the top of a cliff and fucking fool around yeah i don't think that did you have that i mean i i had yeah yeah girls usually just suck dick in the woods where i came from I don't think that. Did you have that? I mean, I had. Yeah. Yeah. You should just suck dick in the woods where I came from. We didn't have a nice spot. I had a spot. Yeah. I had a spot. But like you had a spot or like the school had a spot.
Starting point is 01:09:35 I don't. I think people knew about it. I for sure had a spot. I don't know. And it was like. It wasn't like you see in the movies where there's 10 cars and everyone's fucking in every car. Like a cliff or something. Like you can see the sunset.
Starting point is 01:09:48 Yeah. This was Fort Adams in Newport. Fort Adams, you can go up there and... You're fucking in the backseat. Bro, can you imagine that now? I don't know. You're still probably young enough. Thank you. My guy right here.
Starting point is 01:10:03 Can you imagine fucking in the backseat of a car right now? I told you. I only have sex in beds. Only if I'm with you 99.9%. But in a car... I can fuck on a couch. I can fuck on a ground if it's wrong. I can't fuck on a couch. I definitely can't fuck on the ground.
Starting point is 01:10:20 But the idea of... In a car? Kevin, I can't fit in a backseat anymore. I can't sit in a car. Imagine another being... I I can't fit in a backseat anymore. I can't sit in a car. Imagine another being. I used to have sex in a backseat. That is crazy. I could maybe sit and have someone on my lap. But if we're talking like I'm doing anything.
Starting point is 01:10:39 Oh, I was almost on top exclusively. I've only dated lazy women, I think. You can do whatever you want to me. There's a lot of lazy women. You know what I want to do to you? You fuck me. I feel like being good in bed as a chick, you can obviously give good head or have a good ride game. But being good in bed as a chick just means I let you do stuff to me.
Starting point is 01:11:02 Really, right? Just don't say no to stuff. That's what being good in bed is as a girl you can just fucking lay there as a girl and still be good at bed yeah you're dead fish sure yeah just be a dead fish that i can do all sorts of stuff to the uh i was thinking about that when after our last episode when we talked about how we have to do marketing for men because we're all so ugly and i was thinking about more and like the only marketing we have as men for women is like great yeah but crazy chicks fucking fuck dude my experience not really like it's there's not there's not a demonstrable difference between the sex i have with people i don't think are gonna kill me i don't know if i have enough of a sample control sample i'm sufficient with my research yeah it's about the same sex is sex
Starting point is 01:11:53 you don't like sex though you're weird i i don't think sex is sex because i think there's sex you walk away from it's like i'll do that again and then there's sex you're like i you know we'll like have a fight with the police with this girl and do it again. That's, I think I like the fight with the police because I'm the crazy one. I'm like, that was fun. This episode is. You know, I've been your number one hype man
Starting point is 01:12:19 talking about how great everything is. And it's like, some things don't change. But that cop, by the the way is a pervert sexual deviant next voicemail hey guys this is jillian um turn up kevin i have something to add to your presidential campaign um i know this is something that you are passionate about as well but um there needs to be a minimum ply for all toilet paper because this single ply shit in public bathrooms is just not gonna fly i can't fucking stand it to apply at a minimum for everyone let's go mets i don't hate that i i would agree i think as a country we should have
Starting point is 01:13:01 standards in the bathroom yeah and like and like, you know. Yeah, you got to have soap. You got to wash your hands before you return to work. You got to have locks on the door. You got to have a mirror that's angled so wheelchair people can see in it. I know that from my uncle at a restaurant. And it was like a real, he's like, I can't open until I get these fucking angled mirrors. Wait, so they can see what? Like they can see themselves in the mirror.
Starting point is 01:13:22 Oh, got it. Yeah. I thought you meant like see into the stall. No, no, no. So if you wheel up to the sink, you can still see themselves in the mirror oh god I got it I thought you meant like see into the stall no no no so if you wheel up to the sink you can still see yourself in the mirror but there are things you legally have to have why not that I mean some of these places have like legitimate like tissue paper
Starting point is 01:13:36 that you would put like in a gift bag you know yeah but I'm yeah I'm okay with but also you can't control what anybody does at home if you're poor and you don't want to spend money on toilet paper and you want the one ply fine but as a society public places
Starting point is 01:13:55 two ply you don't need that quilted northern you know that one brand that is like a washcloth that's almost weird wiping my ass with a sock. Should I put this in the washing machine?
Starting point is 01:14:10 I don't think this is going to flush. So we don't need that, but I think a good two-ply is standard. I've also just skirted this. I just don't go to the bathroom in public. Yeah, that's also... If you're shitting enough in public, I guess for girls it's
Starting point is 01:14:26 different but when you is a single ply when you pee a big deal um i guess it's not great to just have to rub your cooch real quick but like it's not that big of a deal so if you're shitting enough in public that you're like god it's another ply. You're probably shitting too much in public. So just go home. Poop at home. Eat healthy. Or unhealthy. I eat unhealthy. I don't poop.
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Starting point is 01:16:37 slash KFC apps and you'll get appetizers free forever. Your conspiracy theory is religion. That's cool. You want to get into conspiracy theories. You go a conspiracy theory guy? That's cool. Conspiracy theory is you go to the right place, brother. I actually say that. I say that, but like... Are we rolling?
Starting point is 01:16:52 Yep. Are you a conspiracy theory guy? 100%. So I hesitate to say that. Like probably five, maybe even like 10 years ago now, I would say I was a conspiracy theory guy. But then like some wackos started would say i was a conspiracy theory guy but then like some wackos started you know saying conspiracy theory and i'm like there is a difference between me
Starting point is 01:17:11 you know questioning some things and you thinking that hillary clinton is a lizard you know what i mean like like you're kind of giving a bad name to the conspiracy theories a lot of people believe the lizard people thing i mean that's it's a lot of people a bit of a stretch i would say a little bit a little bit you know um there's a difference between like i think uh i think aliens are out there and maybe you know they've had some sort of impact on on human life and you are a dinosaur lizard i think there's a gap there yeah we were just talking about this the other day i was with my family this weekend and my or not my sister my brother brought up the paul mccartney conspiracy yeah he like died and they swapped in that guy that one's again but like so many people actually believe that though
Starting point is 01:17:54 that's the wild part i don't you know believe what i what is crazy about that is just how much that guy fucking looks like paul mccartney yeah yeah yeah right right right like if if i if i met that guy if i was paul mccartney i'd be like i almost like have to fake my death and use you somehow like this is yeah this is too good to be true yeah you ever heard that story about the triplets that met up that didn't know each other the documentary i watched it on a plane actually one time that is crazy um those guys were from new york right yes i think like long island guys or something yeah yeah that was chess or something like that. Yeah, yeah. That was nuts. I mean, can you imagine finding a twin would be crazy. And then it happens again?
Starting point is 01:18:33 I mean, that is unreal. Triplets. Dude, that's insane. Yeah. I forgot that story. And they're all... One of them died, didn't he? I think there was some sort of tragedy in there.
Starting point is 01:18:42 Yeah. All right. Good to see you again, man. Thank you for having me on the show what would you say is the the biggest conspiracy theory you believe in um i don't know man uh i i i don't want to get off crazy right now and just let's get nuts dude put my tin foil hat on but uh i'm i'm not a uh i'm not totally against the moon landing like being a uh hoax i like yo i am for sure yeah i promise i'm not crazy but i i i don't know like i think so i've i've spoken uh uh when we had our serious radio show yeah uh i've seen you bring up
Starting point is 01:19:24 conspiracies. Yeah. And like Minuteman and stuff. Yeah, yeah. So I like to wear the tinfoil hat. I like to at least push people to think about some shit. I do genuinely believe like everybody in the government and higher people are lying to you like at all times.
Starting point is 01:19:38 So like why not lie about this? That's more a fact in my opinion. Right. So like why not lie about some of the biggest, most important things? Yeah. But I spoke to, I can't remember his name now, opinion right so like why not lie about some of the biggest most important things yeah but i spoke to um i can't remember his name now but he was the last astronaut to ever walk on the moon and i in
Starting point is 01:19:51 person no he was on the phone but it was on my show no way and i was like and i i've talked about the moon landing so much that there was no way i could talk to an astronaut on the moon and not bring it up yeah so i was like what would you say hypothetically if there was a person who didn't believe we landed on the moon and he was like i would say that you are the dumbest person i've ever met in my life seriously and i was like that's what the that's what that's what a guy who's walked on the moon would say but here's here's my thing the footage that we have of like the the like the go-kart type four-wheeler like driving i'm like and and the dirt that it kicks up off the tires it's all very the dirt dissolves in the footage and if you're in space it wouldn't
Starting point is 01:20:32 do it would just float away yeah there's no oxygen so i'm like i feel like if today somebody was like we made it to mars like look at this footage and it looked like that yeah we'd be like that shit is fucking fake yeah but back then you didn't know you know yeah how to uh and then there's also the just the thought of like well like we haven't been since the 70s but we're making iphones that like track your face and like i don't know it just feels like we're a little yeah they say there's nothing there like it's it's a glorious waste of money and resources to go back. But I'm like, I don't know. There's probably some reason. It's fun to think about.
Starting point is 01:21:10 That's more where I'm at. Where I'm always kind of questioning what they tell you. Because here's the thing. Have you ever seen that pyramid of the conspiracies? It's almost like the food pyramid. And the bottom. The Illuminati symbol? Well, it is. I'm in i'm in that so we gotta keep that a little hush the top is the craziest conspiracy theories and then there's like four bars and the bottom one tier yeah yeah
Starting point is 01:21:35 and the bottom one is like these are real these are rooted in reality but these those are things that people used to say we're fucking crazy it's like mk ultra and uh and bohemian grove and like that and jeffrey epstein and it's like so when these things come become true do you believe in this bohemian grove thing i think it's like yeah have you been seeing the thing what's the who's the fighter yeah that i don't know ryan garcia says that they like showed him and that that they're coming for him i think he is is just a wild promoter who just knows that. Yeah. And he's also gotten hit in the head a few times.
Starting point is 01:22:07 A billion times. Yeah. Like, I don't know. That, that feels like a situation that's going to be like, I hope people are watching him. I don't know though.
Starting point is 01:22:13 If I do like the whole, the whole Illuminati, it's, it's funny. Like no one's ever really asked me, but just being, being in the music industry and, and seeing,
Starting point is 01:22:22 and seeing behind the curtain a few times now, like it's just a little bit farfetched in my opinion. Yeah. Well, it's just, I don't know. I mean, I,
Starting point is 01:22:30 I do believe that there's like secret society type thing. I do too. It's just the length that these, but selling your soul for success and these, these sort of like these, uh, inclinations that like you, you,
Starting point is 01:22:42 people are, are working with the devil. Like, I don't know. I kind of lose it. I can definitely believe that there are people are are working with the devil like i don't know the devil is where i kind of lose it i can definitely believe that there are people who are like yeah i'll sell my soul and and like you know pay money and do whatever yeah to be famous when it's like you know we are a worshiping devil worshiping cult who drinks blood i'm like i don't know about all that yeah yeah yeah but i mean you know again these are things that it's like 20 years ago a guy who wears what the devil would say by the way 20 years ago if you told me that you know diddy
Starting point is 01:23:11 was this monster i'd be like nah man that's that's crazy and then it comes true and it's like between him and weinstein and r kelly and all these things it's like well maybe it's more of the norm than the except you know like than the rarity because it's I mean it's like it's a crazy industry I will say that I've been in it for like 10 years now I still don't really know what's going on and there's a lot of yeah there's a lot of stuff did you did you have moments where you were like I'm not going to get this deep into the into the industry like honestly certain things or truthfully not really I feel like I've always uh I've always kind of like just stuck to my corner of the, of the world, so to speak, and just hung out with the people that I trust and get along with. And, um, I, I try not to stick too much, uh, around
Starting point is 01:23:55 like the deep scene of things, because I think for me, I could easily see myself losing my grounding as sort of like who I am and kind of getting carried away a bit. So I think it's best for me just to kind of chill on my, I think that's a good way to grass. It's a good way to live life. Like whether whatever industry you're in, you know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:15 Yeah. Fucking investment banking. You can get into like the weeds with that or something in entertainment. But yeah, I, I, I do, I do.
Starting point is 01:24:27 I can see where, you know, impressionable people oh my gosh you know starving people uh you know insecure people whatever just gets swept away and it's like yeah you're presented with a check with money you've never seen in your life and you're like all right i'll sign this piece of paper and right not knowing you're giving away all the rights to your music are you on a major label no not anymore so you were right i was yeah yeah i was on two two major labels and recently just uh went independent actually so was it one of those like they just had you by the balls for no you know what it's like it's i've never actually really talked about this but like they i think it was just a case of fighting a lot with the trying to trying to swim upstream with all the other like you got to think about this record labels have a very long list of uh clients they work with and most of them are
Starting point is 01:25:13 uh or i would say like the upper echelon are very successful and so if you're not in that top tier of like five to ten artists that are really generating a lot of money for that label it's hard to sort of make your name known and show them that they need to care about you right and so for me um it felt like it always a struggle to kind of i don't know just just get their attention in a way yeah and uh yeah i mean we ended we ended on good terms but i just think for what i do i it's a very niche situation like my fans and everything is that though mean, like I don't consider you, you know, like this like underground niche guy.
Starting point is 01:25:48 I'm not like fish or someone who's like, you know, like, you know, like, but, but definitely in the sense that I don't have huge radio success, but I've still found a way to garner this fan base of like,
Starting point is 01:26:00 I don't know, very grassroots beginnings and started in at Michigan state and then grew outward and kind of was a word of mouth type situation. I mean, I don't even know how we are, how you found my music, for example, but like maybe through Cal or someone, but probably, but I don't know if it was, I don't think anybody was ever like, yo, let me put you on to Quinn. See, that's the thing. I think it doesn't feel forced in my opinion.
Starting point is 01:26:21 And so while I can like bitch about in my head, like, damn, I wish I was higher up in the world of all this stuff and, and selling more tickets or whatever, having more success on the records. I'm super grateful that everything has happened so naturally because, because I do. Yeah. I do think there is a,
Starting point is 01:26:39 I don't know. I think I would rather be going in this approach than being what the industry calls or people call it industry plan or like it's like like thrusted down your throat and you're like wait there's got to be like i was actually just thinking about this the other day because i i was thinking about how like i haven't heard much at all from chance the rapper in a long time and he was one of those guys who's called an industry artist like, so I can understand the idea of an industry plant, meaning we like this person's look or sound and we're just going to put the machine behind them.
Starting point is 01:27:11 But is there like, well, the irony with chance is that he was independent for several, several years. So the notion that he was an industry plant doesn't make any sense because no one was benefiting from it for his success until he then later signed a big record deal when he dropped his second album or something. Are there industry plans, though, that are like – do you believe that there are industry plans that are more like politically motivated or economic or whatever? Speaking of conspiracies, yeah, this is a very fascinating one for me. I don't really know honestly i think i think there are people who are who have maybe relatives that are in the industry or who have people that can kind of open doors for them that other artists don't
Starting point is 01:27:52 like for example i didn't know anyone in the industry i kind of just had to like make a name for myself and then they knocked on my door and then that that's what happened um whereas other people are kind of you know again not by choice, but just grown into a situation where they're fortunate and they have a dad or a mom or a cousin or whatever who can, you know, ask a favor or two. And then that helps them get to where they need to go. But at the end of the day, I think like you have to be talented to like sustain your career. Right. So whether whether you're technically industry plan or not, like I do think like especially, especially nowadays, culture dictates so much of what succeeds. Look at TikTok.
Starting point is 01:28:31 That's why record labels aren't really – they're losing their steam right now. I can't believe they even still have the ground and the power they do. Because it's all about what the people like. So even if you are a quote-unquote industry plan, you have to still put out good product. Because if you don't, it's not going to go anywhere. Right. Like you can be given all the greatest opportunities, but you got to still deliver. So have you ever had a story of, I listened to this podcast series a couple of years ago
Starting point is 01:28:54 that came out and it's one of my favorite stories. I can't remember the band or the name of the song right now, but it was during the cold war, the CIA linked up with this band. I think the song was called like winds, Winds of Change is what it's called. Winds of Change. And they linked up with a band that had a lot of like Russian and European fans, but were in America or something like that. Were they all girls or is this a different? No, no.
Starting point is 01:29:19 It wasn't that. And they got them to make a song about like accepting western culture and like coming together and all that yeah but it was like a full-blown cia operative where they were like you know we use pop culture to do this shit too and political uh yeah right right and so i was yeah and and the interviews that they did uh these guys in the CIA were talking like – they were like, the shit you see on Mission Impossible, we do that. Like rubber – like high-level masks and like all the things that we think are like movie magic, they're like, that is rooted in truth. So we're doing all that shit. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:30:00 And I'm thinking, you know, when I hear the term industry plant, you know, most of the time I think it's just bullshit Twitter fucking nonsense. But I'm like, why wouldn't these people who are, you know, thinking every single day is life and death with politics and economics and society and all that? Why wouldn't they try to utilize? I think people like to slap that term on artists they see or not even just artists. But I guess it does pertain mainly to musicians i don't think i've seen that with like actors or anything but i think people like to say that when someone who is uh for for all purpose like someone who like went from a nobody nobody overnight sensation yeah yeah and i think no one likes to just admit that oh maybe they're just they just caught random
Starting point is 01:30:43 luck or they're that i don't i don't know yeah i mean it's like yeah it's ice spice it's uh it's sexy red it's like yeah it's people that you know they deem to be not as talented as others who all of a sudden get you know the keys to the castle right and it's like i don't know bro the tiktok loves them yeah like they did something that that resonated and you didn't. Sorry. Yeah. You know?
Starting point is 01:31:07 Yeah. I mean, I agree that like some of the people who get that label, I don't think are the most talented people in the world, but it's not usually about talent. Yeah. You know, there's about talent, but it's about catching a wave or who you know or luck or whatever. So I'm friends with Noah Khan, who is now having like major success. And I've seen him be thrown into that conversation
Starting point is 01:31:25 and it's it's funny seeing someone who has worked his ass off for years like I've known him since nothing was going for him and now like what he's doing like it's just yeah people just want to throw that out to anyone who's having a bit of and that's what's annoying about the overnight success is like it's not overnight guys yeah I remember louis ck saying that because he went when he went he popped like yeah he went from zero to 100 but he was like i was at zero for 30 fucking years yes so you guys think oh i just heard that guy and you know a year later he's on at madison square garden i was this is not overnight this is a 30 year process no one gets not no one but a lot of people don't really
Starting point is 01:32:05 understand how long like macklemore for example was putting out music for like 12 years before that song thrift shop came out yeah and then everyone was like where who is where do you come from well i've been doing it he's like i've had a decade of a career already you know and and and similar with me like i've been doing this for nearly 10 years now and there's people who i'm seeing on twitter we're like oh just discover this dude and yeah it's crazy i mean it's amazing but it's just nuts to to know that there's there's still so many people out there that have no idea who you are right how long you've been doing this what your shit sounds like or yeah um but that's exciting though you know just think there are new people every day mispronouncing your name dude don't get me started
Starting point is 01:32:44 yeah yeah yeah i i i mean it's one day you're gonna have the name change where you're like i'm just quinn now yeah yeah trust me i would i would love that but uh we don't have the rights to the name i don't know can't just be quinn i don't know if we could or not i'm looking at my manager over there maybe maybe is it too like quinn with one n or three n's or maybe maybe now i think maybe we should look no it's gonna be too late now and now i've embraced the i kind of go we kind of have the same conversation here this is the worst named podcast in the history of the world kfc radio it is i mean it's straightforward it's straightforward well it's not though because first of all they people are all the time like i thought
Starting point is 01:33:17 there was a podcast about chicken i thought we were gonna be eating chicken how much do you run have we talked about all the time all the time that happens we must have talked about this because yeah we have name issues like yes yes so so like this? All the time that happens. We must have talked about this because, yeah, we have name issues. Yes, yes. And then at the time, I started this 12 years ago. And at the time, I listened to a lot of sports radio. So it was like WFAN radio in New York. So I had this thing going with my initials.
Starting point is 01:33:39 So I was just like, ah, KFC radio. And at that point, podcasts weren't really that big. So radio just kind of meant any audio product. But then podcasts get big and people were like, well, is it radio? Oh, it's a podcast. And is it about chicken? And I was like, ah. Have they ever like reached like you slapped down the wrist of it? No, we actually just did a sponsorship deal with them for the first time.
Starting point is 01:34:04 It took, I was like for 10 years i was even waiting for my sales team being like guys come on when you came up with the name though did anything in your head be like this is going to be difficult i mean it's my initials so i was like i never if it ever actually you know the best thing that can be called like kevin radio it's just not yeah like it just had a ring to it i also just like named it on a whim being like i don't yeah i'll maybe i'll name this tomorrow you know what i mean like and then it just kind of stuck yeah and uh and then john invented saturdays are for the boys okay yeah and we had a thought about changing the name of the podcast for the boys and we were but we got we
Starting point is 01:34:39 got in our own heads too much because it was we were a little bit older and i was like saturday for the boys is like funneling beers and college parties and you if you think you're getting a show about that and it's two guys who are kind of washed up and like slowing down yeah yeah i i was like that that won't be good come to learn that like the name for podcasting is just if you have a good hook yeah the rest doesn't matter. We should have done it. It would have been like so much better for us. Now the time has passed. And now it's almost like there's too much name equity in this to like change it now.
Starting point is 01:35:12 So it's a whole thing. But it is interesting. Well, dude, that was working out. You got to – what is the – can I ask what the like partnership is? Like what do you guys – is it like a – Oh, it was just like a – you know, like ad reads and like shit like that. Got it. Okay.
Starting point is 01:35:23 Yeah. I mean I would love something more permanent. But it was just like – you know, they, like it reads and like shit like that. Got it. Okay. Yeah. I mean, I would love something more, you know, permanent, but it was just like that. You know, they're very, we still run into a lot of, um, and I think this is probably where, where you have it. Good. We still run into like brands are so afraid of us to do anything. Yeah. And I feel like, uh, I'm, you know, we, we say some shit that's fucked up.
Starting point is 01:35:42 We push the envelope. We're a little bit crazy, but there's like so much worse out there, you know we say some shit that's fucked up yeah push the envelope we're a little bit crazy but there's like so much worse out there you know and so sometimes I think like you know we get this tag of like uh you know too too risky yeah yeah whatever not brand safe and it's like yeah I'm not Alex Jones you know I mean I'm not talking about like Sandy Hook or something crazy it's like yeah you know we're just doing regular stuff but i i feel like you would be like your music is is like so anybody and everybody can listen to it you know what i mean thanks man yeah yeah i appreciate that it's funny like going playing shows and stuff you start to i start to realize that as i get older too like there's seven eight year olds in the front row with their parents yeah you know and then you see
Starting point is 01:36:25 college kids i mean jesse over here my manager his dad comes to a lot of my shows he's got gray hair i see him like clearly sticks out like yeah you got like 60 70 year olds sometimes pulling up and is that hard to do a show um is it because it's like if you have like a party crowd you know how to do your when you see like a kid or something yeah yeah it does it does you i do stop in my tracks a little when i'm about uh you know when i get on stage i know anyone who's seen me in like concert like i like to cuss a little bit and it's not from a standpoint of i i don't cuss in person very often and i mean i do but like i i don't i try not to uh but there's something about being on stage and that adrenaline where like the swear words
Starting point is 01:37:03 want to come out and like the first thing i would say yeah fuck like i'm like they'll be like all right listen like because some college shows or or festival or like corporate gigs they're like you can't swear tonight so don't go up there and say something that you're gonna regret and more likely than i'm just like what the fuck's up yeah delta airlines so but no to your to your question like yeah if i see like a child in the front row it definitely it definitely yeah puts me a little bit more in the back yeah puts me more on guard um or if my mom's in the crowd and i'm like i want to keep it pg or something right yeah i don't my mom doesn't give a fuck anymore so yeah bespoke post has their new seasonal lineup
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Starting point is 01:38:53 with your first monthly shipment. Boxofawesome.com, code KFCRADIO. So what's the, I mean, at this point, I feel like touring is the name of the game. Touring for me has always been the name of the game. Yeah, which I didn't really expect, but's um yeah i think it's really proven to be the most lucrative aspect of the industry for me and especially like i said for someone who doesn't rely on radio hits and stuff and that still really matters getting like like terrestrial radio play still matters not really
Starting point is 01:39:22 but um i mean it does and it doesn't i guess i i think if you're someone who can't sell tickets then yes you you need the big records to to make some money but if you can go out there and you know make a couple hundred thousand dollars a year playing tour or playing shows you don't really need your songs to blow up and if you have fans which is it's a weird place to live in too because i say this all the time there's a lot of a lot of these followers you are like like let's say like instagram followers versus spotify monthly listeners versus um twitter followers like all of these things people i think generally expect to translate and they don't like someone like myself who has three million spotify monthly listeners
Starting point is 01:40:06 could in most cases sell more tickets than someone who has 10 million you know yeah or in certain markets real fans right i'm very fortunate and i don't say that to boast or anything but i'm just saying to like there it's so like my brother i have a twin brother he's like he's like dude you gotta get your monthly listeners up like i like i just saw this dude the other day he's got like first of all bro bro, fuck off. Relax. Thanks for the support. Yeah, but a lot of people don't get that.
Starting point is 01:40:29 Like, your monthly listeners is actually based off of just how many streams, like, your songs are. Like, if you have a song that's absolutely blown up and has 500 million streams, your monthly listener count is going to look like 40 million. But in reality, 40 million people aren't listening to your music every month. Every day. Yeah, every day. It's just this one thing is doing really well. But I think the public sometimes believes that these things all correlate and translate. But no, it's – so I guess all that to say, yeah, I try not to get too hung up on numbers anymore except ticket sales.
Starting point is 01:41:04 Yeah, well, that's got to be there. Because that really is like the real. It's similar in my industry where there was a, I think it was a book called, I think it was called The Long Tail. The idea behind like a curve on a chart. And it's like, you know, if you want to be up at the top. Yeah. But where the tail gets, you know, really long and low. But if this group of fans are small but rabid and they all buy t-shirts and
Starting point is 01:41:26 they all buy cater to that group of people and like you know you really i think the book said you need like if you have like 1 000 people who will always do and buy and whatever yeah you can have a career and then you build from there but like you can have a billion followers but if i mean have you seen some of the the um rap tours that are being canceled like like it was uh because of low ticket sales yeah metro and uh metro boom and and future went on tour and they got canceled like they were they had arenas on the schedule and they just like wow cancel this one cancel that one yeah j-lo's canceling tours i saw that ticket sales like all that it's it's hard out here. So if you can have, you know, even a few hundred people that always buy it, you can do your thing.
Starting point is 01:42:09 I think the biggest thing I've learned recently is just to, and you kind of touched on it, is just to focus on the people that already fuck with what you're doing. And don't get too wrapped up in who doesn't know you. Acquiring the new ones. Exactly. Just make sure those people are happy and trust that they're either gonna i always say like spread the gospel of quinn 92 or kfc so let me ask you this i feel we we sold out you know we sold to this company yeah and everybody got pretty wealthy and so i felt like it was hard to still preach that like grassroots sort of thing
Starting point is 01:42:42 you know what i mean it's interesting and like and you know i i think you've had enough success where it's like not the same like if you can keep your fans always rabid to the point that they are every person they meet they go hi nice to meet you my name is blah blah have you heard about quinn 92 sure like because in the beginning that's what they do every party they put it on yeah every bar they request it you know and that's really how it grows yeah but then i feel like once you make it it's like they made it they're fine but it's like i i got 30 more years of work i gotta keep this going you know yeah but you can't really like i don't think you can ever really harness that initial grassroots vibe from your first you know thousand five thousand ten thousand yeah it'll never be just naturally it won't ever stay that way right it's like my the debut album
Starting point is 01:43:23 of everyone is always that one special thing where everyone feels like they just got a piece of you for the first time and no one else no time of work exactly exactly now and you're right now it's like you have more recognition and it doesn't feel so underground i guess um but you're right man just just again i try and meet everyone after the shows if i can, like walking to the bus and just shaking hands and taking photos. Makes a big difference. And I say that because most importantly, I want to meet everyone and truly thank them that they came out and waited after the show just to say hi to me. That is so wild, and I'll never be able to really thank everyone that does that. But look, I know that that will go
Starting point is 01:44:05 a long way also and those people will probably want to come back and buy a ticket and like i think half the time for at least for our shows because we like we we will stay and like literally do a meet and greet with like everybody yeah and i'm like i don't even think you guys care about what we do on stage i think you just want to meet us and take a picture yeah yeah no and it's i i have no problems with with talking to fans and stuff. I even, like, hate saying the word fans. Like, it just, it feels like I'm on this pedestal. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:30 It's like, you're all just people who are. Really, man, yeah. And it's like. Like the same thing, basically. Yeah, it totally is. And I really respect people that do that with their, I'm saying again, fans. And the people that support them. Because it just, I don't think enough artists or entertainer celebrities give.
Starting point is 01:44:48 I think there are two types of people. The ones that recognize that. Yeah. And hold on to that. And even when money and fame or success comes, they still acknowledge that. Or the people who are like, thank you. Got what I need from you. I'm too big.
Starting point is 01:45:01 Yeah. It's like, why wouldn't you not not just for a moral standpoint of just being a grateful person but that is going to that's going to help your business like it does it blows my mind that there's some people that don't spend a little extra time and yeah yeah have you ever seen the show hacks on hbo no it's a show about uh this uh female comedian who was like real big in like the Vegas residency type shows. And then she kind of like, you know, has to find her way in the new comedy world, whatever. Right. And she's this type who's so big that she has like Deborah Khan sort of thing.
Starting point is 01:45:37 Like everybody goes to support Deborah. And she had to miss it in this latest episode. And this one fan was or this one employee of hers is so pissed off that she missed it. And he's like, can you believe that she, you know, is off doing this thing instead? And this one diehard fan was like, you know, he was like, aren't you mad that these other people are now getting her attention when you guys were the original fans? Yeah, yeah. And he had this monologue, this actor, where he was like, we you mad that these other people are now getting her attention when you guys were the original fans yeah yeah and he and this he had this monologue this actor where he was like we were just right we were right about her yeah and we should be happy that the rest of the world is finally figuring it out yeah we can't be mad and like gatekeep just because we were first because
Starting point is 01:46:20 they deserve to you know get her just as much as we did we were just right about it in the beginning and it was like a that's a cool way to because i think most fans do kind of get a little rubbed the wrong way when you do blow up but it's like he's not our little secret anymore right yeah it's like well that's kind of the goal i don't want to be a secret guys and if you're really my fan we're all supporting like you should want this for me that's a very cool scene i that's a really good way of saying it is that current show by the way yeah okay i want to check that out but but that that actually reminds me of the term like selling out like uh oh man you sold out and like like but why wouldn't you like selling out just means you you're you're you're get you want to keep succeeding yeah i guess like yes there now i can understand the term like you there's different came somebody we hate but it's like your whole personality i did this because i love it but i did it to make some money of course so when the option comes
Starting point is 01:47:07 in to do it to sell it to sign we're gonna do it yeah yeah that that that term and industry plan those are fascinating terms to me because i think i think selling out is i remember i had a friend one time say it to me as a joke and i was like first of all dude i am nowhere near the level of some other people where like that term actually does apply but but like selling out is is i mean like you said like as long as you're staying the same person i and you're not an asshole like everyone wants to sell out yeah like are you kidding me like right that's the point of work and yeah business and yeah what do you think though about like i think it's so interesting watching eminem put a single out the other day.
Starting point is 01:47:45 I just heard this, by the way, yesterday. My Uber driver played it for me. I love it. Yeah. It was like, it sounded like Without Me, Real Slim Shady, My Name Is, all that. And to me, I haven't really liked Eminem's albums since Recovery, right? So it's been like 10, 15 years of me not really liking his albums. Because he just went the direction he wanted to go, you know?
Starting point is 01:48:12 And part of me, you know, same thing with Kanye. The classic, I like the old Kanye instead of the new Kanye. And it's like, I think you have to evolve. But where do you draw the line as far as like, I'm now doing something that my original fans probably fucking hate yeah you know i mean like i listen to some of kanye's music now and i'm like i hate this but i loved it but he has every right of course to make the music he wants to yeah and then eminem at like 50 decided to just be like fuck it i'm going back to the old playbook
Starting point is 01:48:41 right you know and so i'm hoping this new album has a lot of his old style and and then you know it's this dopamine rush of nostalgia where i was like oh my god i'm back in 2002 like that do you feel like do you feel like someone like eminem him going i'm just fascinated what you think like going back to his like you said original playbook that clearly had success um is is like an obvious sign of desperation in a way no or is it like he doesn't because he doesn't have to do that no but he doesn't have to do you know yeah yeah he's a very weird case where he is so successful like i didn't even realize that his bad albums were going like four or five times yeah probably you know like some of his like shitty albums like one of
Starting point is 01:49:25 them went like diamond and i was like this one sucks yeah and even the latest ones i think went like two or three like they're always going platinum so he's always like i'm still making money and succeeding and all that yeah i think he is at the point 50 whatever uh now is the time that you get to do the the throw throwback. You know what I mean? Fun at this point. Yeah. Like I, I think if,
Starting point is 01:49:47 if he did it, if it was like, that's where it's very hard. It's like, I don't like the new shit he did, but I respect that. He was just like, I'm going to wrap this fucking fast every single time.
Starting point is 01:49:56 Yeah. And I'm going to use this accent and I'm going to do all these things. Yeah. And a lot of people didn't like him, but he did like them. And now I think he's earned the right to be like, I'm going to go back to, I'm going to get beats from Dr. Dre. Yeah dr dre yeah i'm gonna you know uh say some some
Starting point is 01:50:08 fucked up shit that makes people go yeah i don't think it's desperate when you've had when you proved when you were on top of the world doing it i agree it's like a a victory lap almost yeah but that's the thing i actually respect about kanye you mentioned him like he i feel like continues to evolve his sound or at least try to yeah that's what i think at least i think a lot of people don't like his newest music but he's not making things that sound like college dropout anymore so i get yeah i also don't get yeah i don't know the total departure from that like yeah so rarely like just give me a soul sample and a feature from somebody and just rap a little bit you know look i see on my level i see comments like i want quinn to put
Starting point is 01:50:50 out stuff that he made back in 2017 interesting and uh it's like you i actually saw john bellion who's an amazing songwriter and producer artist he did an interview a couple years ago, and he said something like, I don't care if, I think he said, like, if so-and-so from Illinois who's 17 years old doesn't like this new music I'm putting out, for me, I have to evolve and keep doing a new thing, because if I'm not getting satisfaction from it, what am I doing this for? Like, he's like, I could make 20 of the first albums I ever made, but if I'm not getting any growth out of it, there's no benefit. Right, and also it's like I'm not 22 anymore. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:51:31 I'm married now. I have kids now. But then I go back to also like if you can just make 20 of those records, can you make a couple and break us off? You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. For the people who really love the old style just like then do it you know what i mean for me it's weird because a lot of my music's rooted in talking about my ex-girlfriend
Starting point is 01:51:50 from high school uh now i'm 32 and married and have a baby and it's like i can't do this anymore right like i even need to stop i've noticed i talk about it a little too much in my shows at times and i'm like i just need to kind of like cool that off a little but you know what it's hard i think when you hit our stage in life uh it's not as like there's a lot to speak about comes fatherhood and and love and growth but that's not sexy that's not that's not the juicy shit you can't do it in like a two minute three minute song yeah and so it's like and nobody wants to really hear about it to be honest you. It's like, great, you're a father who cares. Let's hear about like your heartbreak or like this. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:52:29 So it's like. Yeah, it's a tough, it's a really tough place. Actually, I'm glad you said that too. Be like happy in your private life, but still make, I don't want to say provocative, but alluring art that people find fascinating. And yeah, so that's been a challenge for me recently is how to make the standard American happy lifestyle exciting. It's hard.
Starting point is 01:52:56 Like being a dad, being a husband. I do think you have a prime like an athlete does when you make music or like what I do where it's like because I was going out at night and I was like drinking till the sun came up and waking up somewhere I didn't even know where I was and then I was writing a blog about it that's interesting yeah now it's like I went to little league practice last night that's awesome though that's awesome it is and I'm hopefully going to try to you know music is a little different because you can't write a song about that I can do a podcast if you're a country you could probably write a song about that yeah literally maybe a podcast if you're a country you could probably write a song about that yeah literally maybe maybe you could yeah little league baseball with the kid i pitched two amazing innings last night
Starting point is 01:53:30 did you everybody got a hit and they were only like the innings oh you are the dads or like parents pitching okay so and so the goal is you know not to get them out it's to get them hits yeah yeah you're throwing any like junk balls in there right over i put it right where they want um but yeah i think there's you know something about that that age and that and it can be different ages something about that period of life that's just so awesome where and you can't like recapture it you know do you know um do you know kai sanat the streamer yeah of course last night he had kevin hart and drewski on his stream and they had a sleepover that's what kai does he does sleepovers and he just have kevin he had kevin andrewski
Starting point is 01:54:11 separately put them together i mean that probably exploded 700 000 people were watching concurrently that's like that is so absurd fucking madness i don't do a good job of keeping up with like twitch streams and like who the beast but like that industry is so that's the next man. So insane. It's a shame. I feel like I always tried to be like, what's next? Like when I was a blogger, I started podcasting and when I was podcasting, I was like, I got to do short form video. And I feel like streaming is it, but I'm a 40 year old dad of two and like i was gonna ask you now with your stage of life and i'm
Starting point is 01:54:46 i'm feeling this right now like do you feel exhausted keeping up with friends and doing what those one minute man videos i have to be like on top of everything yeah and i'm like oh like news broke i gotta fucking make this video do you have someone that reports to you like what's going on in the world because you probably just got an intern okay uh this summer and i said if you can do me a favor because also this weird things happens to me where i will consume something and i'm like my my like uh content brain is turned off where i just read a headline i'm like oh that's interesting yeah and then someone will be like hey you haven't made a video on this and i'm like oh yeah the fuck did i not think to yeah make a video on this one so he sends me i just told, text me any headlines you see.
Starting point is 01:55:26 And maybe I'll make it, maybe I won't, but maybe it'll jar my brain to do it. Yeah. And he's 22, so he's like seen it all. So I finally just started doing that. That's another thing I learned, and I'm sure this is big in the music industry, definitely with Kendrick and Drake and reference tracks and writing and all that shit goes writing. I pretty much, I have great producers and stuff but like i'm pretty much done everything
Starting point is 01:55:48 myself i wrote my own blogs i do the podcast i i write my own i don't even write scripts for those videos i just say it yeah yeah and then i learned that there's people in the industry even people here that have like teams of writers and shit and i'm like oh that would be so much fucking easier nuts why don't i do that and then i think about well i gotta like hire them and i invest that much money but then if we make this much more it works out yeah and i end up just doing it myself anyway but it also music i feel like that's a huge thing right yeah you could easily i mean you myself like i could get a bunch of people to help on a song but for me i mean a i just think i could say the words i want to say better coming from myself because i know what i want to say right um but it's not as
Starting point is 01:56:31 gratifying sometimes to have all of those cooks in the kitchen and i think that's when you're just trying to make money right yeah trying to be famous it was just like here's the here's the hook and the beat and sing it like this and you go yeah and sometimes it gets it gets very political though because like you'll see uh someone like beyonce has like 20 writers if you can actually go on spotify and see the credits and there's like 20 people there um and it's not that beyonce needs 20 people to help write her write a song she can definitely write her own music but i think at that point it's like it gets political and it's like okay okay, well my, I managed this writer and some managers want publishing and that guy knows him.
Starting point is 01:57:08 And I, I don't know. It's a whole, if I gave you like one bar, it, it goes as a, as a writing credit. Technically,
Starting point is 01:57:14 if you're in the room that the industry standard is like, if you're in the room, the session is like, if we schedule a recording session, it's like, all right, me, Kevin,
Starting point is 01:57:22 uh, everyone here, we're going to all write a song today and no matter who does what because we were all in here when the clock when the day started whatever happens we all get the equal splits on i kind of like that and i kind of hate that it's i had a really tough time with that at the start of things like when i first moved to la i was like literally keeping track of what i did i was like all right so i wrote the verse and the pre-chorus but that guy said something about the bridge.
Starting point is 01:57:48 And so, all right, I like, I'll give him that. But also even like, I can, I can see like when, when she's in the room, the vibe is just much better and we're laughing and we're goofing. She didn't write a word of it, but she kind of was part of the process. Cal told me this. He's like a lot of what you, sometimes it's more valuable just to be in the room and to give off that energy and spark. That sometimes sparks the creativity
Starting point is 01:58:12 that you're looking for. Hey, remember that time you said that one thing, dude? Exactly. And it just goes. That is just as valuable as writing the lyric, in my opinion. Well, that's like, what's her name? I think Amber Rose, Amber her, Amber Rose.
Starting point is 01:58:24 Amber Rose, right? What's her name? No, I think it Rose Amber her Amber Rose Amber Rose Right what's her name Amber Rose No I think it's Amber Amber Rose who like Married Wiz Khalifa Yes
Starting point is 01:58:31 Really She Oh okay She I think was thinking about She was dating Kanye I think she wanted to Either sue or
Starting point is 01:58:37 Whatever Kanye She said she had inspiration On his muse I mean like She's probably got Like a real case behind that I mean like it was i think it was like my beautiful dark twos of fantasy was like their years together no way and like
Starting point is 01:58:49 that's my favorite kind of album it's a slippery slope though it's like yeah i do think you were but then it's also like you were just his girlfriend you don't he put all the work in if you were helping and all that that's a different story if it was just like we were we were we had a tumultuous relationship while this happened yeah you don't and all that, that's a different story. If it was just like we were, we were, we had a tumultuous relationship while this happened. Yeah. You don't deserve all my money. Yeah. It is an interesting topic.
Starting point is 01:59:10 She's got a point there. Yeah. That's, that's really interesting actually. I don't know how that would work in like, it was, it was, I think it was like a couple months ago.
Starting point is 01:59:16 So I think it's like starting to play out. I don't know if, if, if there is a court that would hear it or whatever, but you at least probably have a case to try whether or not you would, you would, that's fascinating. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:59:27 man, I don't know. It's, it's, I, so I, I guess from like, to finish what I was saying,
Starting point is 01:59:31 like I, I, I got too exhausted about keeping track of my slices of the pie. And I was just like, look, I I'm, I'm going to burn out if I'm going to keep doing this every year. So then wait,
Starting point is 01:59:41 so you then did it all by yourself or you just know? No. So then I just was like, I'm going to accept that. Like whoever I work with today, we're all going to get doing this every year. So then wait, so you then did it all by yourself or you just, no, no. So then I just was like, I'm going to accept that. Like whoever I work with today, we're all going to get equal share. Yeah. That means money too.
Starting point is 01:59:51 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But you, but you also, well, not money, not money.
Starting point is 01:59:54 No, it just publishing credit. Okay. So, so like it's, it's yeah, it's just, you also don't come off as a dick by like,
Starting point is 02:00:04 right. You're going to burn all your relationships if you're like, okay, well, I did this. I'm never going to help that guy again. He doesn't even give me credit. Yeah, so you got to kind of pick your battles. What did you think of Drake and Kanye? Drake and Kendrick? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:15 Is it over technically? I think it's over. He deleted, Drake deleted all of his battles. I saw that. Didn't he, like, erase? I think that was him, like, declaring, like. I think Kendrick kind of, like, manslaughtered him. Which I think Kendrick smashed him which I like and I actually love Drake uh and I love Drake and I I think I like yeah I think I like Drake more than Kendrick honestly like that yeah but uh
Starting point is 02:00:35 yeah Kendrick just like it was relentless I got to a point where I was I remember I was playing a show one weekend a string of college shows and I was with my band in the green room. And I was showing them, like, I was like, you guys got to listen to the latest Kendrick diss track. And then five minutes later, he dropped another one. And we were all in real time. The strategy behind it was crazy. Like, this guy just has his fucking foot on Drake's neck. And I heard so many whispers from people I know in the music industry saying that Drake was the one that had had all these records ready and he was gonna drop right after really put his out and it ended up
Starting point is 02:01:08 being the exact opposite drake set kendrick up for one of his diss tracks drake gave him all this information that like see i don't i don't post him at really yeah i i think i think that the internet said that and drake was happy to at that point in the battle, it was all lies. You're, you're an abuser. You're a pedophile. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:28 And I think he was just like, yeah, yeah. We made all that up. I don't know. I don't know. That's hard when there's a rap battle and everybody is lying. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:34 It's kind of like, well, what do we, yeah. How are we going to judge this? You know? I mean, I don't know though,
Starting point is 02:01:39 if it's, who knows? I have no grounds to speak on this, but like, I don't know. You don't, it's tough to say what, that's the other thing. It's like, everyone's so impressionable, like listening. Cause you're like, I don't know you don't it's tough to say what that's the other thing it's like everyone's so impressionable like listening because you're like
Starting point is 02:01:48 i don't know what's going on in their private life so yeah i guess i believe drake is a benefit yeah but like yeah you i don't know so it's tough to read between the lines and like know what's true and what's fake but um but i do know like drake's bodyguard got shot or something yeah like like right after real things did happen like you know what i thought that was going to be like the end of it yeah it's still kind of like lingered i mean we're still talking shit and i was like all right the one thing everybody said tupac uh like we were like back in the golden age of rap battle right oh i loved it but that one thing everybody said was like that led to like murder and death and it was terrible right and this one is going to stay just you know on on record and then it didn't it was like oh fuck it would be crazy in this day and age for for something to i mean you would never
Starting point is 02:02:28 want to see it elevate that level but imagine if like imagine i mean tupac and biggie dying back-to-back years that would be like kendrick and drake right they both died kanye and drake yeah so so absurd it would be bananas that is actually really you know i think about that a lot with all things like like when michael jordan retired for a couple years because his father got murdered if lebron james yeah when i thought he was playing baseball or something well he did but it was like his dad got murdered and seriously his dad his dad's first love with him was baseball so he was like i want to like i didn't know that actually i just thought he just wanted to try a different sport imagine if like in the middle of LeBron's career, his dad –
Starting point is 02:03:07 well, his mom got murdered and then he retired for a couple of seasons. It would be like insane. Yeah. The coverage of everything these days is like just so much more intense. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, man.
Starting point is 02:03:22 It's good to see. I love that like you have your audience that stays. When I see so many people, so many fake, not fake, but give me a year and these followers are going to be gone. These people aren't going to remember you or care about you. It's a great segue, by the way. What's that? It's a great segue. Michael Jordan's murder father to my fans.
Starting point is 02:03:45 But I just like, you know, there is, you know, and I think I did meet you or come to know your music through probably Time Flies because it's just like the same, you know, genre. And I feel like those guys kind of had the same thing where it's like early fans finding something. Yeah. Being like, I love this. And it's like, it becomes, it's like Barstool. I got lucky too because I mean, we're actually similar in the sense that like i feel like we got in not even knowing it but like saw success before this boom of social media and you
Starting point is 02:04:17 kind of locked in these like supporters people yeah like i was putting on music back when like music blogs were a thing and the blog era was right it was the best like getting your song on a blog was like getting a billboard hot 100 song you know um and and and so I think those people have stuck with me for a while now which I'm so fortunate for but yeah you didn't realize it at the time that we were going to get into this whole phone generated world of like content that's are you you're happy that you you were before it very much yeah yeah i think i don't know i don't i don't think i'd survive like as a people who are like out of college and i don't say this to like deter anyone from not pursuing what they want to
Starting point is 02:04:55 do because they absolutely should it is like the best and worst time i think to to go through like what you believe in right because there's so many people doing it but there's also you have the world at your fingertips and you can literally impact so many people like all you need is like all you need is your phone mic yeah you're good so like it's like the highest highs and lowest lows so right but but i am glad i got in when i did because i think it's just yeah i don't and and you're like a little bit normalized you know like we haven't been completely poisoned and ruined by the internet like i see some of these kids who are like i'm still a little fucked up but yeah yeah like we were right you know right
Starting point is 02:05:28 on the border we we lived life without it yeah and then we became totally addicted to it it's a very interesting born into it like yeah even some of these streamers it's like you know you could be like 16 years old and you're streaming with like 200 000 people watching you that's really not fucking it's really nuts no way you can grow up normal. No, you can't. You can't. Yeah. So yeah, man.
Starting point is 02:05:48 Here's to being old and aging appropriately and still trying to make money off of it. Absolutely, man. Absolutely. So you're doing this three EP drop and you drop breakfast. Yes. Lunch is next. Couldn't fucking remember, man. And then I think dinner comes
Starting point is 02:06:05 after that yeah yeah yeah yeah um and then we might do like a dessert deluxe situation if people still fuck with it i don't know uh but yeah man no it's uh i got a single coming out next friday called melt and then uh yeah the ep lunch is coming out it's cool though i'm like i'm definitely i think my fans know me now is like a foodie. Yeah, how's the mustard biz? It's good. We're in the process of making it right now. Nice. With your own official mustard?
Starting point is 02:06:29 Yeah, yeah. So we're, tough business to get into. Yeah? The condiment business. Really? Yeah, yeah. Very, it's a lot more difficult than I was expecting, but it's, again, I like doing something like this, though, because I think food, I mean, there's been a few artists, like Action Bronson has really represented like the chef culture.
Starting point is 02:06:47 And, um, I think there's been a couple other guys, but like for the most part, I, I haven't seen someone really like rep food as like a central theme to their album. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:06:57 And I thought that was like an interesting world to go in and just fucking try it out. So, uh, yeah, dude, we're just, this whole year is like food promo style music,
Starting point is 02:07:05 but the music, the music has nothing to do with food. It's just the world that lives in. Right. Yeah. Uh, but yeah, man,
Starting point is 02:07:10 no song comes out next Friday and the EP is going to follow after that few weeks after. And, uh, yeah, just fucking everyone watching. I love you guys. Thanks for supporting.
Starting point is 02:07:19 Hell yeah, man. You know what you got to get down with the, uh, I just saw this yesterday. Heinz created a the ed sheeran thing what are you talking about what is it heinz did a collab with ed sheeran or they made a custom bottle of his tattoo sleeves oh that's cool i didn't see that very cool yeah what i was
Starting point is 02:07:36 gonna say is they made um a machine that's like the coke machines where you can mix uh but it's with condiments so it's like you start with like a ketchup base and you can mix, but it's with condiments. So it's like you start with like a ketchup base and you can put in like a hot sauce and then it goes and it spins it so that it's all mixed up. Where is it though? I don't know. I just saw an Instagram video
Starting point is 02:07:57 where it was like, I think at like some expo or something. That's genius. So I was like, get your mustard in that bro. A little Dijon, a little mayo, a little of your mustard.
Starting point is 02:08:05 That is very interesting. Yeah, we got to figure this out. Jesse's already left. Only one of my managers is left. He's like, I can't handle this anymore. Yeah, we're trying to get a little food truck to follow us on tour this year just to sling the mustard and shit. Once you get the fans, you can sell.
Starting point is 02:08:20 It starts with merch, right? But you get them in the palm of your hand. Then they buy everything from me. Yeah, man. Buy my album, buy my t-shirt, and buy a bottle of mustard. Buy my fucking mustard. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good seeing you, man.
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