KFC Radio - Tucker Carlson and Don Lemon Mysteriously Get Fired IMMEDIATELY ft. Cam'Ron

Episode Date: April 25, 2023

Timecodes: 4:36 - Vote for Mike Vrable 6:52 - Tucker Carlson Gets Fired IMMEDIATELY from Fox 17:19 - Aaron Rodgers to the Jets 35:54 - KFC's new house is haunted 46:11 - If you could make one thing le...gal, what would it be? 52:14 - Can you swallow Zyn? 57:48 - Blue Check Marks 01:16:20 - Video Voicemails 01:26:23 - a MUST hear voicemail 01:34:59 - Cam Ron Interview Preview ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Pirate Water: Go to https://barstool.link/drinkpiratewater to find pirate water in a location near you Betterhelp: This episode is sponsored by Betterhelp. Go to https://barstool.link/BHKFC for 10% off your first month Barstool Store: Shop now at https://store.barstoolsports.com ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/kfcr

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, KFC Radio listeners, you can find every episode of KFC Radio on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Bro. Bro. Never. Never. Did you guys know that was coming? No.
Starting point is 00:00:20 Did you? Never in... I thought... Never in a billion years. It's another edition of KFC Radio on the Barstool Sports Network. Houston, we are coming. We're coming in Houston. Tomorrow night, we will be kicking off KFC Radio Live 2023 Tour. The one night only, one show only tour. Now, we fixed our little glitch problem.
Starting point is 00:01:06 For the first, like, six months of being on sale, we found out that the Houston, the Addison Improv was only selling tickets in batches of four and six. So a lot of people would go and try to buy a ticket and it would say, like, $160. And so I understand why. It was so weird. Everything else was, like, sold out and there was, like, 20 tickets sold to Houston, why. It was so weird. Everything else was like sold out
Starting point is 00:01:25 and there was like 20 tickets sold to Houston, which means some motherfuckers are out there just buying four packs. But we fixed it. The club is now selling tickets available in one, two, three, any number. Any denomination. Any denomination you want.
Starting point is 00:01:38 You can buy the tickets. So you are kicking things off for us. So please show out. Go buy tickets. We are going to have our first. I don't care if you guys come. No? No.
Starting point is 00:01:49 Okay. Quit the business, man, Johnny. I was saying earlier, if all the other shows weren't sold out, I'd care. Oh, yeah. If this one bombs, it's like whatever. It's funny if it's just now on there. Okay. Well, that's the glass half full over there.
Starting point is 00:02:03 I'm going to say I'd prefer prefer to be sold out that'd be nice i'd prefer about like i don't know 350 more of you to buy tickets uh but yeah yeah no don't listen to john but listen we will spin it as something funny if it's empty it could end up being the best show ever for like 60 people right i'll say the N-word on stage. I don't even care, man. I'm going to get canceled for laughing that hard about that. See you later, Tucker Carlson. Tucker gets the boot.
Starting point is 00:02:32 Wait till you see me say the N-word. I'll tell him. Tucker Carlson got fired from Fox News. Oh, wait, wait. Before that. Oh, yeah. Also, we are going on the road to Houston, Dallas, Austin this weekend.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Minneapolis, Buffalo, and another place. Detroit. Get excited. They're on sale now. On sale now. I don't know when. The show is – November 17th, 18th, and 19th.
Starting point is 00:02:59 November 17th, 18th, and 19th. We're going Minneapolis, Detroit, Buffalo. Here, I can pull it up right here. You pull it up. I'm trying to do that too. Tickets are on sale. I believe Detroit is – or no. Minneapolis is a varsity theater.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Wait, we're wrong. We're announcing it. It's not on sale. This is how we do things around here. We're going to put it on sale. They are announced on April 24th. But 26th, it'll be on sale. 26th with code KFC, they go on sale.
Starting point is 00:03:30 But Buffalo and Minneapolis are definitely going to go fast. Detroit, I have no idea. But I recommend April 26th, set your alarms for I don't know what time. This is the worst announcement ever. This podcast is the worst. We are so, we are, without a shadow of a doubt, the worst business podcast in the world. Who really gives a fuck, dude? By April 26th at some point.
Starting point is 00:03:58 Oh, wait, all 10 a.m. local time. All 10 a.m. local time. Look at that. Read further on the email. 10 a.m. on your time. Agents listening, just fucking read the next paragraph just read the words i wrote for you um bills mafia better show up we uh conveniently we said what is what is buffalo love the bills said let's do it on a sunday during football season so if there's about like 500 of you not
Starting point is 00:04:23 fucked up and drunk or watching the game or whatever you want to come out april 26 maybe 10 a.m full sale april 28th hopefully they'll all be sold out on april 26th buffalo april 26th they go on sale 10 a.m code kfc get your tickets last piece of house cleaning i'd like to do. The Patriots Hall of Fame is being voted right now. One player per year is added every single year. This year, the ballot is won Mike Vrabel, Bill Parcells, and Logan Mankins. It's Vrabel's year, baby.
Starting point is 00:05:08 It is, without any help, it is 99.999% Vrabel's year. It should have been Vrabel's year a long time ago. He's the greatest free agent signing in Patriots history. He's been getting dicked over by them. He's 8 for 8. I'm sorry, he has 8 receptions in his career for 8 touchdowns. All of them monster touchdowns. He's the greatest free designing. I think, honestly, embodies the Belichick era as good as anybody. Maybe the best.
Starting point is 00:05:31 And this year, without any help, he's more than likely getting in. More probable than not. What I would like to do is make a push right now for everyone to go vote for mike brable so that when he does get in i can say it was my fault and every single time i talk to him for the rest of my life i can go hey buddy you had a hell of a career you just need a little extra push so everyone please go vote for mike brable for the patriots hall of Fame so I can steal all of his shine. They give you a bust. They give you a jacket.
Starting point is 00:06:07 A red jacket. And then I imagine there's a bust for the Patriots Hall of Fame. I hope he goes up there and puts that red jacket on the floor and takes a piss on it and smashes that bust against the ground and says, this should have happened a decade ago. Fuck you. It should have. He just needed me to help him out. That's all right.
Starting point is 00:06:23 I got you, Mike. Don't worry about it. We'll call it the Feidelberg induction. Just give me – he is a better man than me in every fucking sense. Every regard. Give me a little something that I can just twist a little bit of a knife and go, hey, you know, you had a hell of a career. Just – you needed a little podcast help to get you into that Hall of Fame.
Starting point is 00:06:40 You need a little push from Oreo 55. Get you that red jacket and uh hopefully i'm gonna tweet every morning make sure you go vote for abel and uh rabel vote rabel just just go get him in the hall of fame thanks to me um as we were doing our podcast today tucker carlson gets the boot from fox news in uh one of the most stunning moves in media history, to be honest. That's not hyperbole. He was getting 3 million viewers a night. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:13 That is I can kill someone and it shouldn't matter numbers. That is other people have done things like murder and rape and it hasn't mattered. You may have been fucking Rupert Murdoch. Yo. So everybody thought it was – I wonder how many abortions he's had. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Thousands.
Starting point is 00:07:32 That's what it was. Thousands. How many abortions has Tucker had? I don't mean paid for. I mean had. Had. Tucker – a lot of people thought it was the Dominion lawsuit where a lot of those text messages and emails leaked that had Tucker being like, these fucking morons still watch my show. This is unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:07:50 Had nothing to do with that. It does, however, apparently have to do with Abby Grossberg, who was a booker at Fox News who she either quit or got fired within the last year and brought a sexist lawsuit to Fox News. Like, yeah, no fucking kidding. You're Fox News. But it has to be. I don't want to. So here's what they said. Rupert Murdoch personally made the decision to fire him.
Starting point is 00:08:18 That it has to do with this lawsuit where they already fired the producer of it. His name was Justin something. And now Tucker, uh, she said that, that women were like subjugated and that, uh, men like were given preferential treatment.
Starting point is 00:08:33 Like again, yeah, no fucking kidding. That has to be a coverup. And that, um, no, I'm not saying that's all good stuff,
Starting point is 00:08:41 but I can't see how that gets you. And then he said he didn't like his january 6th coverage specifically that tucker tucker has made up this conspiracy that ray epps was this he's an arizona security guard i think he was uh was the leader of the insurrection and he just like isn't he just flat out isn't and like the fbi put him on a list and they like started investigating him and he's like it was i had nothing to do with it. Was he there? He said Arizona.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Yeah, I think he's from Arizona or something like that. Him and what's-her-name who got shot? Right? Is it him from Arizona? I think so, too. Lauren Bobbitt, is that her name? What's-her-name? I don't fucking know.
Starting point is 00:09:20 No, that's the chick from Colorado. But I think they were like, you're going to get us another defamation suit by saying all this shit. I just got us four in ten minutes. I was going to say. So here's the thing, though. A news anchor getting in trouble for potential defamation and a news anchor being sexist is not enough to justify a three million viewer a night show being poof, gone. No farewell. No like 100 last days of Tucker.
Starting point is 00:09:52 No, this is the final season. Not even one single show to grab your ratings one more time. Just poof, gone. That means something like absolutely something else happened. Yeah. Because that is fucking nuts. I did quickly read a tweet that was saying like Rupert Murdoch's heir is – and his wife are like hardcore liberals and like they – That is so dope.
Starting point is 00:10:17 I mean it truly is straight out of Succession. Like so Fox News lost 900 – That is so funny. We're just changing everything. Imagine. Just flip the switch because my wife – You thought MSNBC was bad. Welcome to Fox News, the most liberal place on the planet.
Starting point is 00:10:32 They lost $930 million in market value upon announcing it. I mean whether or not you care what Twitter says, the overwhelming 100% reaction is like, I'm done with Fox News. I'll never watch it again. People are Tucker Carlson fans, not Fox News fans. They're like, I'm out. It's crazy because he hasn't had that time slot very long. No, but he's worked.
Starting point is 00:10:58 Is that what it was? I think so. He worked that gig to perfection. He made the country dance like puppets. Whether you, you know, politics aside, whether you like him, whether you hate him, whether you think he's a weasel, whatever, there is no denying that what he did with that gig was fucking, like, I mean, master class in how to manipulate. Dude, I've never watched a second of it ever. I've only seen clips. Like, I've never seen it on TV. I've never even watched a clip. I've never watched a second of it. Ever. I've only seen clips. I've never seen it on TV. I've never even watched a clip. I've never even hit play on a clip.
Starting point is 00:11:28 And I did recently. And I can't... I can't... It's not... It's not even the words that are happening. It's the tone. The hair, the bow tie, the like... What do you have to say about that?
Starting point is 00:11:43 I couldn't... this won't mean much of anything to you but uh bad day to be a saint george's dragon as always every day is a bad day to be a saint george's dragon but um is that who he went where he was like my rival high school that's where tucker went that's where tucker went yeah i mean that checks out if you like if you knew about saint george's before you knew Tucker Carlson, you'd go, that guy went to St. George's. Yeah. He is.
Starting point is 00:12:09 You just know it. He's like a cake eater. I don't even know what you're talking about, but I know it. Perfect match. Don Lemon also got fired from CNN. I think they should just wife swap. No, I don't think so. He's not?
Starting point is 00:12:22 I don't think so. I thought he was. I don't think so, but maybe. Jackie, fact check? He works for CNN. He's gotta be. Just Google Don Lemon gay. Me and my MAGA bros are laughing over that one. Imagine if those guys just swapped.
Starting point is 00:12:36 No, I think we would have heard a lot of homosexual slurs if he was. It cannot take this long to Google if someone's gay. Did you Google, is Don Lemon gay? Yeah, what did you Google? What did you Google? Is Don Lemon gay?
Starting point is 00:12:53 Question mark? He might be. Well, so am I! So might me and John. What does that mean? I don't think he's outwardly gay. I thought he had like a... I don't know. Who knows? But I thought there was i thought like he like i don't know who knows but i thought he was gay um him and tucker should swap spots and just like make people's heads explode now you can't call either of us anything you can't you can't call i mean
Starting point is 00:13:17 tucker carlson tomorrow could do a talk show being the most liberal anchor in the world he could do it like that yeah and don lemon probably could do the world. He could do it like that. Yeah. And Don Lemon probably could do the same being a conservative asshole. It's like Tommy Lahren used to be the liberal queen
Starting point is 00:13:31 during the Daily Show heyday when that was popular. Tommy Lahren was? Big time. He is gay. He is gay. Confirmed gay. Gang shit.
Starting point is 00:13:39 I knew that. Fucked him. I'm so straight I didn't even know if Don Lemon was gay bro uh Tommy Lahren I think used to work for like
Starting point is 00:13:47 a hardcore liberal outlet and then it was just like boom the blaze is paying me more like here we go you know ride the wave
Starting point is 00:13:53 um but I wanna know I wanna know the real dirt cause you don't get fired from 3 million viewers a night Tucker Carlson didn't
Starting point is 00:14:02 overly oversee a single sexist incident and that got him fired. Yeah, get the fuck out of here. We'll find out on Monday when he works for Barstool Sports. Prepare for the Tucker Carlson hour
Starting point is 00:14:15 featuring Dave Portnoy. Imagine those two just do a podcast together every night. No, Dave, no, Dave. No, you take two bites of the pizza. I think, no, Dave. No, you take two bites of the pizza. I think, like, what usually why these people don't get fired is not only because of the money, but because they know where all the bodies are buried and shit. You got to imagine Tucker has fucking some nukes to launch if he wanted to. Oh, he definitely won't.
Starting point is 00:14:41 I don't know, though. When you do some shit like this, usually when you fire someone, it's like, here's your $100 million golden parachute, and we're going to do it politely and whatever. You know what I mean? This was just like, poof, you're gone. Fuck you. And that's enough to make somebody go like, oh, yeah, Rupert? Oh, it was your personal decision? Okay, Rupert.
Starting point is 00:15:02 Let's talk about whatever. And that's how you end up fucking. But't again he hasn't been there that long yeah yeah you're right but i mean i would think o'reilly would know more than him probably because all all of tucker's stuff has been post me too right wasn't o'reilly fired during me too yeah pretty much right like that's you can't have that bad dirt in that time frame i also just think we're in a different world now though where it's like maybe even if like he just has dirt because of who he is not because of how long he was there and he'll just be willing to sling it i mean you could i don't know they already you know they already tanked yeah i wonder if that's
Starting point is 00:15:39 one of those things like yeah you we tanked for a day you say you're never gonna come back go watch cnn for a day and you'll be right back here you know what i mean because maybe you love tucker but you can't stand the rest of the news outlets yeah that is you know what's funny about what you just said there is the whole that phrase that people used to love about howard stern like he said one thing in passing once and people have repeated it for 40 years like they love you they listen for five if they hate you listen they listen for ten. Maybe that was true at a time. I can't imagine that happening. Not anymore.
Starting point is 00:16:10 I think back in the day, there was probably like, I can watch this channel or that channel, and I can listen to the people who I agree with, but you know what? That crazy guy pisses me off. I got to see what he says tonight for whatever reason. Now it's like you can watch whatever you want whenever you want however you want for however long you want there's no reason to spend any amount of time watching something that you blatantly hate although
Starting point is 00:16:33 i do i i will say it's different than tv viewing but like the hate following is for sure a thing we see that firsthand where it's like why are you following me you fucking complain about me every single thing i say and yet here you are and i and you don't have like you why are you following me? You fucking complain about me every single thing I say. And yet here you are. And you don't have, like, you could just, you know. I used to have hate followers. That mentality is still for sure a thing, whether or not it translates to, like, I'll watch a fucking hour of television because of it. That's kind of crazy.
Starting point is 00:17:00 But people do. You got to remember when, you know you you you say something you're coming from a logical brain which is scary to think but wario 55's brain is actually more well well like formed than some of these fucking troglodyte waterhead morons out there who were like just want to yell just want to watch the fucking gay guys at cnn to make fun of them. I don't know. Whatever. So who knows? But there is just, this is the tippy, tippy, tippy top of the iceberg, I think, for the reason why Tucker Carlson gets the boot. I mean, I can't think of anything. Aaron Rodgers officially a jet.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Whoa! No fucking way. What a day. What a fucking day. See, Tucker. What did it take? I don't know. I just saw the Barstool Sports.
Starting point is 00:17:49 It's official. Here we go. And it's him in the colors. Wow. Here it is. Am I projected on the screen? No, nothing's on the screen. How about that?
Starting point is 00:18:00 No. No. All right. Packers and Jets have agreed to a mega trade, sending four-time MVP Aaron Rodgers to the Jets for major compensation. Okay, yeah, there's no numbers on that, but that's what Aaron Rodgers. Just major compensation. Yeah. So you guys probably won't have a draft pick for a few years.
Starting point is 00:18:21 For, like, ever. Wow. I really thought like just because of the jets and their name and history and just kind of the way he operates i was like this is a leverage play and when everyone got excited when he was like i told them there this is where i want to be everyone acted like it was a done deal then and i was like that's what you say when you want to like put the pressure on the other guys you know what i mean that's not what you say when you really want to leave.
Starting point is 00:18:45 You just leave. You just make it happen. You don't publicly fuck over their leverage and all that shit. You quietly get it done because that's where you want to go. But, I mean, that is as much of a move as you can do to put you in position to be a contender. I mean, that's like it's been the one thing they have been missing forever. And now they finally got it.
Starting point is 00:19:12 And there's that part of me that's like, you got them too late, or you, I mean, there's just been this part of me for so long that has been kind of trashing Aaron Rodgers that it's almost like it's such a mind fuck now to just be like no he's a Super Bowl he's a four time MVP
Starting point is 00:19:30 he's a Super Bowl winning quarterback he's the answer he's the truth he's all that they need but the Jets have never been in better position otherwise let's see Jets get Aaron Rodgers the Packers get the 13th pick the second round pick the 13th pick, the second-round pick,
Starting point is 00:19:46 the sixth-round pick. I mean, that's like nothing. Yeah, I think that's a no-brainer. Bro, that's insane. The heist of the century. Wait, wait, wait. Go back again. Maybe we should have read that.
Starting point is 00:20:02 First, a second, and a sixth. First, a second and the first a second a sixth and another second that might become a first if you play 65 so let's say two firsts a fourth and a sixth is like i thought was going to be like the the the starting point that that green bay would laugh in your face at yeah i mean that that's they I mean, they got that deal for like Jamal Adams. There have been guys who have been traded for fucking a haul of a pick, of picks more than this, who are a fraction of the quarterback Aaron Rodgers is.
Starting point is 00:20:38 I guess when you don't have much leverage and you're – and they got a pick. The Jets get the – The Jets get the fucking Packers. You just swap the first round? So instead of the 13, they get the fucking Packers. So instead of the 13, they get the 15? So that first round pick is a wash? That is a fucking heist. Joe D with the fucking all-time.
Starting point is 00:21:00 This must have been like we have no shot of moving him anywhere else and we cannot have him here anymore and they fucking knew it because that is a crazy package for a four-time mvp and and i mean i thought they were gonna have to give up like current talent i thought it was gonna be a lot robbing peter to pay paul like none of that so everything stays intact you pick keep all your young weapons you pick six minutes later yeah is it 10 minutes after how long what the fuck man that is yeah see you later zach wilson that experiment see you see you later that's done uh i don't know man i i am always so so guarded with the jets i reached the, especially here at Barstool, over the years where the Patriots kept winning
Starting point is 00:21:48 and the Jets just kept getting worse, that even when there is like, even something like this, where it's like, get excited. I still am just so cautious about it. But with this defense, the way it's set up the some of the emerging weapons they had and everybody coming back from injury you put that together with aaron rogers you know it's impossible to say like you're gonna win a super bowl because it's so fucking hard
Starting point is 00:22:17 but this probably has to be the best chance does it make you the best team in the division i mean they're like they were winning games last year while running a three-man rotation for quarterback yeah like the bills are the bill the bills are sick yeah no no i mean and that's what's fucking it's it's a lot like the mets right now in the in the nl east where it's like oh you're finally good and it happens to be in the NL East where it's like, oh, you're finally good and it happens to be in the fucking division that's the best in the game as well. I feel like the Bills needed to win. Your window is only so long with a full team. You know what I mean? Josh Allen will be around for a while,
Starting point is 00:23:04 but they almost took a step back, I feel like. You know what I mean? Josh Allen will be around for a while, but they almost took a step back, I feel like. You know what I mean? I actually don't even know. But the division will be stacked, and so, yeah, it's not going to be easy. But as far as a Jets fan, it's by far the best shot you've ever had. For sure. When does the schedule get announced? That I don't know yo if we get a
Starting point is 00:23:26 november 18th or november 19th jets bills that would be nice you get jets bills in in in buffalo while we're there for kfc radio live holy shit man i truly did i i did not let my get myself get excited because i like this is the classic jets fans like that's get their dicks hard and and for nothing to be that broken we're like the gm is publicly saying like he's coming here like you see that video yeah the boomer yeah yeah like and it's like well i don't know dude i i really believe that i really was like this that's when that's when things go bad that's when it's like lol you know the jets are the fucking clowns of the league now all that being said you still gotta like you gotta win a super bowl with the new york jets it's like arguably the hardest task in all sports uh what do you
Starting point is 00:24:19 what do you think the like do you think the bar for him is like it's it's hard to say that like a new york jets team is like Superbowl or bust, but like people are going to put that on them. Yeah. I think that's fair with, with the talent level he's getting. But what's funny is like, I mean,
Starting point is 00:24:33 every team is Superbowl or bust, but particularly when you have a chance and you have a, a, you know, a hall of fame quarterback, it's Superbowl or bust. I see now you're dealing with now the expectations yeah like the expectation like like like you just said like are we even sure
Starting point is 00:24:51 you know you're the best team in the afc east right now but you've got to put the super bowl on your back yeah like that's like that's what is that's what's so crazy about what brady did in tampa bay granted they had you know, they won however many years ago, but they were not a winning franchise that's always a contender and all that shit. And it went from zero to 100. And so now that's what's expected. Now it's like, you're
Starting point is 00:25:15 expected to just go somewhere and bring them a Super Bowl. But guess who? The difference is Tom Brady is Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers is... And I don't even mean that on field. I mean the locker room experiences with the two people are pretty well reported on. One is beloved. One has –
Starting point is 00:25:34 Issues. Yeah. I don't think – But at the same time, I feel like we don't see it as much. But I think the Pat McAfee show has probably been great for him. I think he has a lot of fans in that regard from that sort of stuff. Well, I'm talking locker room. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:47 I don't know. I don't know. Because I actually don't know if that helps him or hurts him in locker room. Because I think he's pretty open about it. Yeah. You're going to be talking to everybody. I'm thinking about it from a fan point of view where it's like you go from – Any advice for playing in New York, Brett Favre picture, don't send a dick pic.
Starting point is 00:26:03 I mean Favre – that Favre year, people were gassed up. I mean, we were talking shit. That's the thing is like they, as a collective, Jets fans will go 0 to 100 too. You know what I mean? We'll be like, we're winning the fucking Super Bowl. Especially if you get off to a hot start. Jets are like 4-0 or some shit. Watch the fuck out.
Starting point is 00:26:22 We're going to be so goddamn obnoxious. I say this all the time about me and my teams. People who think I'm obnoxious now when my teams have historically lost every single fucking year of my life, watch what happens if they're a contender. Watch what happens if somehow they make deep runs.
Starting point is 00:26:40 What's his contract situation? I would guess two years. You signed a four-year deal? Unreal. what's his what's his contract situation i would guess two years two years yeah so you have it locked in for a couple four-year deal unreal the uh it is what you're talking about with you know winning with the chats and getting gas up at four no it is interesting to see excuse me that with you know with the knicks it's happening i think for a long time that and I'm sure I've said it before and I think a lot of people have said it
Starting point is 00:27:07 where you're like in the social media era you can play anywhere you can still be a superstar I don't think that's true what do you mean? I think you can be and Aaron Rodgers transcends that he's too big to be he actually can be but there's that next
Starting point is 00:27:23 level of player where it's like like jalen brunson i never heard that name before yeah you can't be a star in dallas right right you have to be in new york yeah you have to be in la you have to be in boston to be my like you have to be in the major markets for sure again rogers it's weird that i'm using this to launch into that but like i'm i'm kind of using it to combine with the seventh half getting shut down after games. It is... It's an extra gear for sure. People were like, oh, you have Instagram.
Starting point is 00:27:51 You can be a star anywhere. Not like a fucking star is a star. You can see examples of it. I think there will be even a difference in Green Bay versus here. Yes, Iron Rod is a global star already, but I think the way he's celebrated will
Starting point is 00:28:07 be a little bit different. He goes 4-0 here, 6-0 here. If he is good in New York, I mean, forget about it. I think it was like the fucking Oklahoma City Thunders of the world started that thing, and we were all like, yeah, it does make sense. You can be a star.
Starting point is 00:28:23 No, you can be a star, but Giannis be a star but like like yannis is a star right yannis shuts down milwaukee well if you come to new york you shut down manhattan right like you'll just you will hit that extra gear my argument is always is it worth the headache because if you don't win everyone's a fucking asshole to you and your life sucks i would argue not but i'm also not one of these competitive freaks who's been playing professional sports my whole life if you do win you are you are launched into like uh a level of celebrity that's like it's like i'm being a movie star you're like brad pitt right like everybody knows your name because you're the guy who won the super bowl for the new york jets you're you're not just like knowing your sport there on the sport and it won't even fucking matter. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:29:05 You can still be in the next level. That's rom-com The Wedding Ringer. Like it does not – you cannot get that at Wawa, man. You can't get that in a lot of different cities. There's only like a handful of them and he is poised to do that. I mean it's just – but it's just sports is so fucked up where it's like, okay, the bar is like do the hardest thing in sports. Otherwise considered a total failure. Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:29:30 It is. I'm just so – dude, I'm so excited. I'm so excited to just watch someone who can sling it and play the sport the way it's meant to be played. Do you realize that like I don't – it's not that the Jets lose. It's that it was an unwatchable product for, like, 90%. I just went through it with the Mets where it was like, I look at guys that I used to be like, nah, man, this guy's pretty legit.
Starting point is 00:29:59 Like, he's pretty good. We're, you know, we're, like, celebrating, like, Rajay Davis coming to the Mets. Like, he's a fucking player. And then you get a real team you're like oh wait a minute this is what it's like when you can actually watch a team who's successful the fact that we're gonna go like the way people used to try to force zach wilson people being like he's gonna be a franchise quarterback no he's fucking not because just look how it's going after After one game, people were like, he's got the tools. Yeah. I remember a little eyeglasses and being like, all right.
Starting point is 00:30:36 You make like one third down conversion pass down the sideline for like 25 yards in a semi-big spot. People were like, flashes. He's got flashes of greatness. People crowned Zach Wilson pretty quick. Real fucking quick. He's the guy. We did a star is Born for Sanchez and Geno, and we had fucking Vic and Tebow, and who's the one guy who made that video who hated me?
Starting point is 00:30:52 Brooks Bollinger. I mean, the list goes on and on and on of guys who were not just bad and not just didn't get the job done, were on a level that was so unwatchable that when I would watch a primetime game between the Patriots and the Seahawks, I got their peak,
Starting point is 00:31:11 I would be like, this is a different product that I'm watching. And the fact that I can just watch that week in and week out, because whether or not you win the Super Bowl, who knows, but Aaron Rodgers will be a quarterback who can score points and move the ball.
Starting point is 00:31:26 And it sounds crazy that that is where I'm at, where it's just like, you're going to get me first downs? But God damn it if that's not all I've been wishing for. Just give me something I can fucking watch and not have to puke over week in and week out. And it's coming for me at the 11thth hour dude i was i was like i just can't do this anymore as a person i'm wasting my time i could be with my kids i could be doing something productive there's just no reason for me to give up this huge chunk of my day every week
Starting point is 00:31:57 on the weekend dude the jets sucks so bad we had to make a sketch series to react to them yeah yeah i mean that was the only thing that kept me going was like the goddamn Jets was almost like, you know, if you're going to be bad, make sure you're really fucking bad so I can make an episode of my show. And now it's just like you're going to watch and they're going to win and they're going to be a contender. Just like that, you know? That's what's crazy is because you either – this kind of trade is so rare. It's like you either get lucky through the draft or like something crazy like Brady happens. But like how many times is somebody like this even available? You usually just ride off into the sunset.
Starting point is 00:32:38 Nobody wants to go waste their final years with the Jets or whatever. The fact that they built a team team and you can never predict this, but the fact that they built a team and had the opportunity, like, like you get rewarded by building a quality team. He's not going to the jets. If Joe Douglas doesn't build this team to be a winner everywhere else on the field right now, you know? So it's like, you know, you, you put yourself in a position to be somewhere that these, that a quality player wants to go.
Starting point is 00:33:03 And it, it's like the fact that all that has to line up perfectly. His contract, his desire to leave, his situation with the team and the fans all lines up with the Jets and everything they've been doing. And they're not ready to bail on. This happens a year or two earlier. Maybe they're like, no, we still got Zach Wilson. All of that shit lines up perfectly to happen. And then they work out the deal of the century.
Starting point is 00:33:27 Unless I'm reading it wrong or there's more that's not being reported, swapping firsts and giving another conditional first along with a fourth and a sixth is nothing. Because guess what? All of those draft picks from the Jets every year, they don't do shit. I don't get why the Bruins have a lot of their current players are trades. Your stars are Posnock and McAvoy.
Starting point is 00:33:53 Those are two draft picks. You kind of just get lucky. I mean, they're two higher draft picks, but you kind of get lucky. But I think people value kind of like an unscratch scratch like you were saying earlier. Yeah, the potential. People love the potential. Fuck the potential. Trade it for Hampus Lindholm. Trade it for Linus Olmark.
Starting point is 00:34:07 Absolutely. Trade it for fucking Dimitri Orlov. Trade it for Garner Hathaway. What I will say is usually in football, some of these guys, and basketball definitely, people will give up first-round picks for years. And if you don't hit on that pick, you can dig yourself a fucking hole that you can't get out of because now you can't draft the offensive lineman you need. You can't build from the inside out, all that shit.
Starting point is 00:34:28 You can trade for someone who is not a risk. Once you're trading, trade a first-round pick for someone who's not a risk. Bro, we have shirts, the King of New York already for Aaron Rodgers. I like the Mr. Rodgers neighborhood one. That's a good one. What's that? Mr. Rodgers neighborhood is awesome with the New York skyline in the background. It's funny for two reasons.
Starting point is 00:34:49 Number one, it's like, hey, no pressure, dude. Number two, there's nobody to say like, wow, Aaron Rodgers isn't the king of New York. X, Y, Z is the king of New York. Yeah. Like with the Jets. Yeah. Like, no, Aaron Rodgers is already. He has not played once
Starting point is 00:35:05 we're getting photoshops of him in Knicks jerseys and that makes you the king of New York that's fucking nuts man so alright something like god if there's just some world where the Mets and the Jets
Starting point is 00:35:21 are the Knicks are winning in the playoffs the Mets and the Jets are – the Knicks are winning in the playoffs. The Mets and the Jets are contenders. It's just – I mean that is a – it's like – actually, this actually ties in nicely to what I was going to talk about on the podcast. I had this video that I took the other day when I moved into the house, and I feel like i've just like pressed the reset button on life entirely i this was all of my earthly possessions
Starting point is 00:35:55 are in this one room that's it that's all that i own i purged everything else i got rid of fucking every and most of these boxes are like silverware and shit, like things you need for your house, not like stuff. I got rid of everything. I got this new house. I got a quarterback. I got a baseball team that can win. The Knicks are winning in the playoffs. It's like I'm a fucking caterpillar, Feidelberg.
Starting point is 00:36:23 Yeah, the curse is gone. Remains to be seen. Because I did flood my house on the first night. I flushed this toilet. Playing the hits. A hundred years old. I flushed the toilet. It was swirling.
Starting point is 00:36:38 It was going down slowly, but it was going down. I walk out of the room like any human does after they flush the toilet. And I'm getting changed. And all of a sudden i'm hearing like trickling water and i was like did i like leave the shower running walk in there two inches of fucking water which promptly leaked down to the bedroom underneath it so some things will never change i also experienced my first ever uh i you ever ask yourself like what would you do in a horror movie situation? Yeah. And I went through it.
Starting point is 00:37:13 So there's some weird shit going on. And remember I said to you, I got this house and this piece of property for a price that is really fucking ridiculous. And so I said, the inspection inspection this house must be garbage and the inspection passed with flying colors and i said this must be a murder house i'm saying like chris benoit used to live here there's only there's only the only way this house could be this price and then i took so many pictures and videos recently and then the other day my dad sends me this picture and he says you've already got a squatter he sends me this picture of this statue on the on the lawn it's one of the most horrifying statues i've ever seen it's terrifying i'll you seen it? I'll send it to you. It is.
Starting point is 00:38:07 It looks like a kid in Pompeii. Yes. A kid who was just running and a volcano erupted and froze him solid. Like Medusa looked at him. Yes. I think somebody poured concrete
Starting point is 00:38:17 all over him and there's a little boy frozen inside there. He's wearing a Freddy Krueger striped polo shirt. His clothes are ripped, right? His clothes are ripped. His hair, it's real hair.
Starting point is 00:38:27 It's real hair. And it's like frozen though. It's like you could crack it. It's... I walked the property. Me, my mom, my dad, the real estate broker, their side, my side, the lawyers. I walked that property three times before moving into this house.
Starting point is 00:38:49 That statue was never there. That statue was never fucking there. And not one of us. Maybe like, oh, I didn't go back to that corner and didn't see it. Nobody notices it. Nobody notices a fucking three-foot statue with rocks like like put around the feet at the bottom i believe they call that a cairn it's what you put over a grave oh great yeah uh so your house looks like it'd be super super
Starting point is 00:39:18 haunted so then the first night i'm there second night'm there, I admittedly was going to go out and make a video, almost pretending I'm just seeing it for the first time. And as I step – as I walk out there to make this video, I look out in the back and that light is on in the shed oh no nope i'll send this video as well and so i have a series of videos that i made because i'm so i'm walking out there about to be like let me get my horror horror movie on like Like, I'm going to start acting, you know, and then I see the light and I actually get scared because I know for a fact I didn't go in that shed and turn on the light. And I asked my dad. He's like, no, I didn't turn it on. So now in a big, your dad's just fucking with you in a, in a big, creepy wooded backyard
Starting point is 00:40:24 where 10 feet to the right is where the statue is now all of a sudden i have a little shed little light on and i and like i will put the video in my video in the youtube video i was like i went from quickly like I'm going to make this scary to being like I'm fucking scared. And so I was faced with the like what do I do? And I thought about it for a little bit and then I just go, I'm going back inside. Fuck this. Yes, 100%. So – but then I went stupid white people and I went out there.
Starting point is 00:41:01 I went out there and I confronted it. And I – it was like legitimately the scariest thing i've ever done like you're on fear and tv i was i was really like this is probably just somebody turned on a light but i don't know man it's really kind of shaping up to not be that way i really like logic dictates that none of us saw that fucking statue but i really don't remember that either so all of a sudden i've got two very strange things happening and i went out there and i i'll i i went in and like opened the door and it's like a creepy old shed dude i had the unlatch oh there's me coming out of it i guess
Starting point is 00:41:56 i i like just walked up to it i was like hello hello? Hello? I mean, that is fucking creepy. I kept putting it on my, like, I was like, like, you know, full grown ass man being like, my heart was fucking racing. And I opened it up being like, I don't know. I'm going to fucking get decapitated or something. Like, there's going to be a ghost in there. I don't know. It was the closest I've ever been to like a real life like
Starting point is 00:42:25 i am actually scared anything any other stuff that anything goes bump in the night i was always like a little bit like oh this is weird but i'm like i don't know whatever yeah this i was genuinely like i don't know what the fuck is going on right now i was like take me back to the city i want to go back to the bronx i don't like this shit i'm in the darkness there's no lights i'm in the woods i'm in the lawn no no one's People rarely, rarely serial killed in the city. Usually out. Oh yeah, definitely out there.
Starting point is 00:42:48 So I call this little, this little statue Oliver. He looks like an Oliver to me. Cause you get, you mean you also can't get rid of it. I can't touch that thing. Yeah. So now it's just there.
Starting point is 00:42:58 You can't, you can't throw it away. You can't like it's, it's, it's just has to be there. I'll save your place for you for a hundred bucks. That's yeah. Done.
Starting point is 00:43:08 That's content. Jackie Sage's Sage's Clancy Manor. Try to get rid of the fucking ghosts. Okay. You're going to go out there and deal with the statues and the lights and shit. That's when the ghosts are out there. 500 bucks. 600.
Starting point is 00:43:26 She's learning. She's learning. Okay, she's sold. Sold, sold. Nope, nope, sold. Because we will fuck with you so bad. I don't fuck with ghosts. You just offered out of nowhere
Starting point is 00:43:40 to fight off the ghosts and then you say, I don't fuck with ghosts. I thought, until right now, I thought you said stay at your place. No, sage because i was gonna say you should stage but i know that you're not gonna do it i was trying to make i actually have bought stage before yeah because i needed to exit what are you doing that for keep going i don't know don't do that
Starting point is 00:44:00 it's not very becoming you saw that that, right? Just keep going. Yeah, it's like dirty white Air Forces for your face. Oh, yeah. I'm sorry. We didn't ask you how we talked a whole segment about Tucker, and we didn't ask you how you're dealing with it. You lost your hero. That's your nightly show, right?
Starting point is 00:44:24 I keep cutting all this out. No, people don't even get it. Jackie's like, these things come in threes. Kevin's house is haunted. Tucker got fired. I wonder what the next one is. I'm not, for the record. You're not, for the record, talking into a microphone.
Starting point is 00:44:42 Yeah, I was going to say, for as much as she's learned in negotiation. Well, I'm going to cut it out. All right. This show is brought to you by BetterHelp. Getting to know yourself can be a lifelong process, especially because we're always growing and changing. Me, not so much personal. Because then I wouldn't have a show. But I encourage all of the listeners to do exactly that.
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Starting point is 00:46:33 Wait. I'm sorry. Before we get to that, this is going to be maybe a quick segment, maybe not. But it does tie into what you were just talking about kind of. The ghosts? In a sense. You brought what you wanted to talk about on the podcast today yeah i had something i really want to talk about too let's go um if you could make anything i don't know i just i just thought of this on saturday afternoon
Starting point is 00:46:54 you can make one thing legal well what's one thing that's illegal that you think should be legal prostitution grave robbing naturally totally i'm absolutely on board with that why is that even illegal that you should do that to the graves that your house is built on it is it i i don't know they're dead i don't know why i thought i think it should be illegal to bury people with stuff that like i was watching some show when someone got buried and they were just like adjusting their rings i gotta be honest. The funeral home steals that stuff, right? No. Wait.
Starting point is 00:47:29 You don't think so? Wait, what did you say? You don't think the people at the funeral home popped that off before? Oh, yes, I think they probably are. Well, no, because that's hard because it's still an open casket. Yeah. I mean, typically you close caskets. Maybe if a girl died on spring break, they steal their toe ring.
Starting point is 00:47:41 Wait, wait, wait. No, no, no. You dress them up for the wake and then you close that shit up and like there's some room yeah that's true you're not going you're not going close open casket to the ground that's great uh i definitely for every funeral i've been to it's been open casket you close it put it in the hearse go right to the that's what i'm saying though dog there's this in between period of time where you know that you can go get grandma's fucking diamond necklace off. They're going to do it. You got some guy in the back of that hearse.
Starting point is 00:48:08 You got some guy in the back of that funeral home. We just need to prepare the body real quick. Yeah. Taking that shit off. That, I do agree, should be – you shouldn't be able to rob the people. If you're going to do it, you got to dig it up. You got to earn it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:22 I think if you – I don't know. I feel like you're a dumb dickhead if you put some valuable jewelry on a dead body that's going to go in the dirt. I completely agree. I just think you should make a murder. I think – Fair. I think if you were in the middle of the night digging up a grave in the cemetery, the cemetery at closing hour should look like – the front gate should look like Home Depot. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:44 It's like Black Friday. Everybody runs through at 5 p.m gate should look like Home Depot. Yeah, like Black Friday. Everybody runs through at 5pm. Ready to go to work. And then the light goes down. No, wait, let me ask you this. Are you under the impression that there's a lot of value on these dead bodies? I feel like there's only a couple things here and there, right?
Starting point is 00:48:58 Probably, but like, you know. Most people are poor and they're dead. Good point. Like, we're not talking about pharaohs in Egypt. Those people would put humans in there with you You imagine that When you're like King Tut's girlfriend And he bites the bullet
Starting point is 00:49:12 You're like fuck Well that's it for me I guess I'm going to get locked in a fucking pyramid for the rest of my life Yeah that sucks I want a grave rob to fuck I got three days I'm probably still going to live grow in there If I hurry up i can
Starting point is 00:49:26 get myself i can get myself a cool sarcophagus and a girlfriend there's a woman with exceptionally low standards she'll do anything i'm the last man on earth as far as she's concerned that shit was nuts they used to put like pets and humans and all sorts of things in there but really all of our rules about like uh i think it's like an illegal like uh illegal disposal of a body and like desecration and shit i understand there's like some some some medical uh like you know you can't have like like diseases and shit can happen too but i think a lot of them are also rooted in like religion basically you need to like a lot of them are also rooted in like
Starting point is 00:50:05 religion basically you need to like properly dispose of the dead and it's like fuck that let that shit rot in a field i don't know it'd be fertilizer dude even like a fucking vulture will eat it i don't fucking know if i was like a marine like my i'd be like leave me behind that's what i mean throw me don't like i think that goes for alive people still not just not wounded i think you can leave a body on the field i would hope like yeah when people are like do not risk your life to get my body back to my parents when you see a movie where they're like i don't know you're on the oregon trail you're back in like colonial times whatever and they like throw the dead body on the back of the horse and they're like we got to get him home to his mom it's a dead body they don't fucking need to see that i was an organ donor anyway i
Starting point is 00:50:43 will donate to vultures it's fine yeah right i'm becoming one with the earth i don't fucking need to see that. I was an organ donor anyway. I will donate to vultures. It's fine. Yeah, right. I'm becoming one with the earth. I don't know. I want to be reincarnated in something in nature. Leave me the fuck there. I'm dead. And instead, you're going to pump me full of expensive shit.
Starting point is 00:50:58 Put me in my best suit. You're going to put me in my best suit, put jewelry on me, and then put me in a $10,000 box. And then dig like a ten thousand dollar hole and bury me because what it doesn't make any it was again i forget it's fucking nuts but yes it might have been always sunny when when he tricks the family he tricks everyone everyone thinks he's going crazy so he tricks him into digging up a dead mom you probably you tricked me to my dead mother because he makes them all think she's still alive. You all thought I lost a step.
Starting point is 00:51:33 She's in the grave with the shovel crying. Dan's like, Mommy, no! That is an all-time scene. All-time. Mommy! But, okay, so prostitution and grave digging. Prostitution and grave digging. Maybe combine the two.
Starting point is 00:51:51 I don't know. Get some prostitutes to fucking dig. You can pay the prostitutes. What do you want to do? You want me to suck your dick? No, I want you to dig this grave up. I'm going to get some calluses in a minute. Hit that shovel, babe.
Starting point is 00:52:02 Also, you're right. Digging a grave, digging them up is so hard. Yeah. If you don't have a backhoe. You can't use a backhoe. If you use a shovel and you dig out six feet. It's like storage wars. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:14 You're going to put in some money. You might get nothing. But you might strike gold. You might get time. Last thing before we move on. I was going to just check this out on my own because I could very easily, but I thought it would be funny to figure out the answer on the show. Can we Google – can you eat Zins?
Starting point is 00:52:32 Because you boys have been eating a lot of Zins. I thought you were going to be like, because it's really a pain in the ass, but you already are. You're asking – for people who don't know, you're asking, can you swallow bags of nicotine? Yeah. Is really what you're asking. What happens? What happens when you swallow... I'm going to guess, just take a guess.
Starting point is 00:52:53 I actually, now that this is about to be revealed, I'm now nervous. Yeah, wait, wait. Close your eyes. Don't read it yet. What do you think happens if... I think nothing happens. But, like, now there is the concern. There's no reason to panic. Tobacco-free and therefore will not cause any interior body
Starting point is 00:53:08 rot? Does that say rot? I don't even know what you're reading. Nicotine would be absorbed into your bloodstream. It says riot. And then you... The same way as if you had put the pouch under your lip. It sounds like that's a... You know what? It's a good buzz. Why don't you start eating them?
Starting point is 00:53:25 Instead of being an asshole. Actually, now that I think about it, I'm parachuting nicotine. Yeah. Yeah. Rather than being the asshole sitting there with your fucking pouch in, your lip in, you're talking funny, I just eat them. They just go through my stomach. I don't intentionally eat them, but I fall asleep with them every day.
Starting point is 00:53:40 Oh my god. Every morning starts with me going through my sheets looking for it. And I go, oh no i ate those ones last because if you eat like one or two you're fine but anything more it's like then you're yes yeah it says one or two in your lifetime oh i crushed that fridge last week how about this it also says uh wait wait what happens like it's also incredibly important to keep your nicotine pouches out of the reach of children. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we know. Nausea, vomiting, headache, stomachache, and loss of appetite, as well as dehydration and increased blood pressure.
Starting point is 00:54:13 Although a fatality rate of nicotine poisoning is not high, it does mess with your system, such as increasing, then dropping, your blood pressure. And it's something to keep in mind when you feel tempted to swallow your nicotine pouch again. Well, you're not doing it on purpose. I'm not doing it consciously. Yeah. I'm asleep. If you put in a Zin and then you're just like, I'm done. You're a fucking asshole.
Starting point is 00:54:34 Yeah. Yeah. No, I take that. It's just I fall asleep and I... Usually, like, I unconsciously, like, I'll, like, pull it out. It just, like, happens. It's like swallowing gum, dude. It takes me for seven years. Yeah, yeah. That's a stupid lie. Sometimes I just fucking it out. It just happens. It's like swallow gum, dude. It takes me for seven years.
Starting point is 00:54:46 Yeah, yeah. That's a stupid lie. Sometimes I just fucking eat it. You are a despicable human. It's about as good as I thought it was going to be. I thought it was going to be not recommended, but not that bad. I thought it would be funny to find out live on air. It's like, you're going to die.
Starting point is 00:55:02 Like everything else in life, not not recommended but you'll be all right yeah that's really what life comes down to uh as i was saying earlier we've got a bucket list guest for me on the show kill a cam cameron i just in my wildest dreams like a bucket list thing for me would be like Mike Francesa, right? Or like we would love to have Joe Rogan on the show or Dave Chappelle or Chris Rock or some of these major comics. But those are more feasible than what just happened. Yeah. Because there is – I can see an avenue of like six degrees of separation.
Starting point is 00:55:42 I don't know. Burt Kreischer could just be like, Joe, these guys are awesome. And Joe decides to listen to him that day. It could happen. It's not going to, but it could. I couldn't even fathom any avenue in which Cameron, Cameron, Cameron comes on KFC radio. radio and not only that cameron who publicly said i'll do a podcast with gillow and with gillian wallow and everyone else is going to cost 175 000 for an appearance that same guy just came through kc radio and not only kicked it with us for like an hour and was like a great conversation
Starting point is 00:56:19 also was like so gracious and so appreciative and like thank you thank you and i think it's because he's like i'm gonna make money off these white people. But I think he also meant it a little bit too. A little bit, yeah. He was like thank you so much. And either he meant it or he was acting and I appreciate that too. Completely separate from all that, I have started bartending. No, it's a joke.
Starting point is 00:56:41 That's not my money. I'm not bartending. We did not bet Cameron. Imagine if we paid $175,000 for a podcast interview, how good that interview would have to be for you to be like, worth it, worth it. It's impossible. So we got Cameron on the show.
Starting point is 00:57:00 If you told 1998, 1999, 2000 KFC, even later than that even like the oh boy hey mock kfc that cameron would one day come on your show i mean never never in a million years would i believe it but he and mace have what is probably going to be like the new freshest best show of the year but there's always a show every year like are you garbage stuff island and now i think this year it is what it is is mace and him doing their sports talk show kind of like uh like skip alice and steven a and it is fucking hilarious because that i've always said rap and comedy are so tightly knit because you're basically just like telling punch lines and jokes but doing it in rhyme form and so so those guys have always had the comedic chops,
Starting point is 00:57:45 and now they just don't give a fuck anymore. So they say whatever they want about whoever they want, and they're just going to make headlines every single show. So Cam Run on KFC Radio. We'll get to that in a minute. First, we said that there was a line when we had the golf party. We just said that there has to be a line after the Barstool Beast jacket. And apparently there is just no line.
Starting point is 00:58:09 Because we now are buying blue checkmarks. The thing with all... When I say we, I mean Barstool. People at Barstool buying blue checkmarks. It is... Here is where my allegiance is going to lie with blue check marks whoever whatever group it may be blue check marks or non is currently acting lamer i will go to the other side i feel that because i am i am like i'm i'm not gonna pay for it but I I also
Starting point is 00:58:45 I'm not going to yuck your yum like you say you want to pay for it, you like it, fine, whatever but it depends on who's more obnoxious about it at first it was very obvious at first it was like oh you paid that's lame because it is, it is lame to pay for fake
Starting point is 00:59:03 notoriety but of all this, the most lame thing is caring one way or the other yeah as a whole is always the lamest so like if you're passionate one way or the other it's lame but right now it is a bunch of people who bought check marks trying their best to explain why it's not lame yeah yeah and that comes off as even more lame right so there's like you're making it worse you're making it worse you think you're making it better you're making it worse i remember when when when elon first bought it and talked about it i think i had a tweet saying like i think i'll pay for it because he said something like
Starting point is 00:59:38 your your shit gets amplified and it gets uh promoted and uh like all that shit and i was like oh there's actually like utility to that like there is there is some inherent value in it that was when elon like was first buying twitter and i thought we put all our eggs in the twitter basket if elon comes in here and somehow turns this thing into a platform that matters i'll fuck with it you know clearly twitter's always gonna be twitter yeah this this well that's that matters, I'll fuck with it. Clearly, Twitter's always going to be Twitter. However long Elon's owned it, it's just the same old shit show that it is. Who doesn't understand what it is.
Starting point is 01:00:14 What you bought. It was the uncool kids. Everyone on Twitter... We found our own little cool... The people who were cool on Twitter are not cool people. We're all internet nerds. That's why barstool put our exit to it and like because we're not cool people right and we're like oh yeah this is a fun little weird corner yep and then and like
Starting point is 01:00:34 you come in you're like i'm gonna i like his mission statement has always been completely unknowable it's just it it's with the winds it's like He's just playing with his toy and it's like, I'm going to do this. Wait, that didn't work? I'm going to do this. That doesn't work. Let me go here. It has been like, I'm here for free speech. I've seen that. There's a viral blue checkmark. I paid for this because George Washington would have paid for it.
Starting point is 01:00:57 What the fuck? And that's why that person has very solidly placed the blue check marks in the lame category. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like that's who you're associating with.
Starting point is 01:01:11 But it is – it's just the whole thing is – I'm thankful for you on Moss Barring Twitter because it makes me like it less and less every day because it is – I get away from it. It's like, ah, I just use it less and less every day. Yeah. It's not good and blah, blah, blah good i don't really fucking care about that anymore but it is uh it's just i also like like people get so bent out of shape the other direction too like like the porn bots there's a lot more porn like i don't really care about that like i don't know i get those tweets that's from the girl that says like is like do you want this or whatever oh i've seen that i get like a ton of
Starting point is 01:01:44 it like every reply has those i'm just like okay whatever just go past it it's like it's the bad side of it isn't that bad either it's just it's fucking twitter man it's just like it's just like the weird little playground that we set up like who fucking cares this much but you can go ahead and tell yourself that you bought it for whatever reason. You bought it for the reason. The reason what the blue check mark represents is the exclusivity and the notoriety and you can talk about all the other things that Twitter
Starting point is 01:02:14 Blue might provide you. Twitter helping you with your videos. Twitter is not a video platform. If you care enough about your video content and its success, you're not on twitter you're not even probably on instagram you might not even be on tiktok anymore there might be something new about that i don't even know about to to be like i need to make sure my videos my
Starting point is 01:02:37 video content performs let me do it on twitter is so fucking stupid i can't even begin to describe you how much of a waste of time that is. Your video content on Twitter is never going to be a thing. And then when I saw Dave do it, a piece of me died because I remember getting the blue check and thinking like I think this is good for business. I think this is good for me personally to have a check. I think it brings me a level of clout or – what's the word I'm looking for because I'm demented? Whatever. Respect. Yeah, respect let's say.
Starting point is 01:03:19 And so I was happy to – Gaz said email me with your license, picture your license or something like that, and you get your blue checkmark. And so I did it. Which is what people are arguing about what a checkmark is now. It's verification. Yeah, that's what it's always been. Yeah, it's always been you're verified. But I remember you and Hank and Dave didn't do it, and it almost became like – it was like counterculture. It was like a funny little – you guys were like rebels against the cause.
Starting point is 01:03:50 But then for him, the leader of the no checkmark gang, to be like, yeah, I bought it. It is. I want to pull up his tweet. His tweet about it is arguably. It's a terrible. I'm not even like talking shit about it. It just hurt me. I was like, no. No no say it ain't so it's one of those say it ain't so moments like this can't this can't i
Starting point is 01:04:12 thought it was a joke i thought what he did i thought he got the blue check mark and i was ready to give him credit in like a comedic fashion yeah yeah yeah now now that's what i'm saying i'll go wherever the winds go if it's if they're being lame or i'll go to the other one if the rich guy is now like and now i'll get the check mark and i'll pay fuck you losers that's funny sounds great but he did it you know now twitter blue has actual utility it lets me post longer videos which i need to be able this this reads like a fucking ad yeah i swear to god this God, this reads like ad copy. Which, I mean, we used to sell Musk Portnoy shirts. It wouldn't surprise me if this is like a, hey, Elon. Help me out.
Starting point is 01:04:49 Or like, hey, look at me sort of thing. I mean, this is exactly how companies send you ad copy. It lets me post longer videos, which you need to be able to do. And it amplifies my tweets, which helps as well. What? Yes, I bought it. Here's what people got us in. I didn't want the checkmark when Twitter was run by idiots
Starting point is 01:05:05 and the blue checkmark was just a fake status. I mean, that sentence right there. The blue checkmark was just a fake status symbol for losers to suck their own cock and pretend they had influence in their opinion.
Starting point is 01:05:16 Guess what? It still is. It's literally what it is. It still is. What's the second one say? Now Twitter has actual utility. It lets me post longer videos, which I need to be able to do and amplifies my tweets which helps as well it's ironic all the losers
Starting point is 01:05:28 who base their identity on the blue check are now refusing to pay for it when it actually helps for the first time just shows how dumb the original blue check mark brigade is and always will be it's just i guess the like the fallacy or whatever you want to point out in the argument here is that it's going to help like it's not gonna help you do anything i mean i guess it like if i understand it like you can only be on the for you page if you have a blue check mark yeah it's not going to show you two accounts that don't follow you but like twitter using twitter to be like a internet personality is gone and it never really was anything except in our little world in the barstool world we deemed it something and so
Starting point is 01:06:03 our fans it kind of means something it's still the best place to get news i think it's still if you follow the right people can be some of the funniest content but if you're talking about your video content getting in front of eyeballs and you're wasting a single second on twitter it's crazy let alone a dollar you know it's not about the money eight thousand a month i don't care about but it's just like you're to be like no no i need to be able to post longer videos. First of all, we have accounts that will post the video and then you retweet it and you do quote tweet or whatever or tweet video and you just – you could do it yourself. But more importantly, it's like – no, it doesn't – okay, so what? You're going to get like 100,000 views, Twitter views on your video instead of like 75,000 or whatever these fucking numbers are.
Starting point is 01:06:44 Like they're not – the viral video numbers in twitter are not they don't mean anything right no one is like selling their twitter video series you know yeah like that's not a fucking thing so uh i don't know i i love the people who are like i didn't ask for a check mark and now you gave it to me take it away it's like fucking shut up all of you alissa milano i think was like crying all day long it is the it is funny to see it all like well then like everyone's like well not again he's like well we'll give it to you yeah yeah that's what the blue check marks are that's what they were the whole time yeah you give them to the celebrities the fucking
Starting point is 01:07:23 right like that's where these people buy it. That's the whole thing. Spend the same thing the whole time. Right. That's where these people are getting caught up because the whole argument was, now people can impersonate me. There was the company that had their stock drop, the pharmaceutical company.
Starting point is 01:07:39 Remember somebody tweeted them? So it's like Twitter is just going to make sure that doesn't happen. Give out the tweets, give out the checks that they deem need to be verified. And that's it. And that's what they did as soon as they all went away. But now they're mad about that.
Starting point is 01:07:52 It's like you clearly – your whole argument switched. The whole thing was like we're giving voice to the people. And I'm sure his statement has changed. He's just a loser. We kind of talked about this the other day with Rowan. We were talking about Trump where it's like i don't fucking care about politics one way the other i don't know i don't i don't even know what musk represented i know he is an uncool person who wants to be cool and that is the most uncool thing you can do yeah and and his like you know
Starting point is 01:08:17 what's up we're gonna give our voice to the people and then guess what those people are now mad because fucking you just you made them bad by it and then you're like wait none of those celebrities want to buy i'm fine everyone who's a celebrity gets a verification yeah that's what it is right that's what it was the whole time what sucks the most elon musk was in position to actually be really cool like in the in this era where nerd culture has taken over and being like the smart nerdy guy is cool in a way like if he just bought twitter and didn't try to be funny and he let whoever needs to run it run it and he was just like yeah man i don't know like i believe in the the free speech of of the platform and we want to
Starting point is 01:08:58 make it better and like that's it it would be cool it'd be like oh he like the the space nerd guy is now like involved in social media and it's whatever he'd be cool it'd be like oh he like the the space nerd guy is now like involved in social media and it's whatever he'd be like zuckerberg-esque i guess that's not cool per se because he's not cool either but he was in a position to do it the right way and just be like you know i bought this thing and i'm gonna try to do something with it and instead has just been like i'm the comedian and i'm the cool guy and i have cool friends screenshot read it and tweet it i'm hilarious aren't i dogecoin he meme lord or whatever they fucking call him uh by the way do you still have money in hoge oh yeah oh yeah that's gonna hit one day that you're just like
Starting point is 01:09:34 oh shit i'm telling you man that's gonna hit one day me and tommy lay are gonna retire tom lay's heavily invested in hoge oh big time he's gonna have like 100 million dollars if it hits uh elon is just uh like he he's it now what's happening is the same thing that always happened with his science where he gets he gets credit for all these things like his spaceship blew up the other day and so the the experiment was like they need to be able to try to get this spaceship off the ground and they did that so they were like it's a success i get that i understand that was like the the hurdle they were trying to get over and so they did it but like it got in the air and then just blew the fuck up and everyone sucking his dick for an explosion is just like everything else he's ever done but they just suck his dick for saying things like okay so you you
Starting point is 01:10:22 one day this will take us to mars so this was the first step who gets all this fucking credit for the very first step in like one million more steps that need to happen we're going to be able to travel anywhere on the planet in 30 minutes we're going to have the underground train tunnels that take you everywhere we're going to be able to like circumvent the glow all these things that he just says and everyone sucks his dick the same way that an exploding spaceship is now some big fucking thing to celebrate because that means we're gonna get to mars you know tomorrow no never it's the fucking never gonna happen the fact that anyone celebrates it one way or another is so like it's like dude elon did it or hell yes elon failed like it's a rocket fucking what the fuck does it matter to you people at all it is interesting how much people
Starting point is 01:11:04 get like got bent out of shape about him he went he became a there are rockets all the fucking time I don't care what we're we'll fuck there's a rocket but I think no I think that it's inherently impressive that like this guy has a private company and he's like we can go to space that's that's
Starting point is 01:11:19 an achievement that like but I mean no I mean like people who were happy that it blew up or people like either way your reactions would be like a a rocket went off right okay unless it's like we as a people need to get off this planet asap because the meteor is coming we need to get to mars i don't think you should have any interest in fucking right right like yeah fucking elon's wrong it blew up or yeah elon's right it took off yeah it's a fucking it does not change your life one fucking bit how how are you possibly putting any stake or celebration in this at all? Because Elon Musk?
Starting point is 01:11:51 Okay. Crazy. Crazy, man. But even crazier than that, you know what's the craziest? It's Riggs buying it. Huh? Riggs buying it. Riggs was one.
Starting point is 01:12:03 He was quick. He was like, all right, I fucking bought it. Becauseiggs buying it. Riggs was one. He was quick. He was like, alright, I fucking bought it. Because that was funny. They were like, they're all gone. Except for Riggs. There were a couple of people here. And I know Riggs well.
Starting point is 01:12:17 I know Riggs well enough to know. He's a savvy guy. He quickly played the whole card of kind of what you just said. Caring what I spend my money on is lame yeah right and it is this whole thing is inherently lame but we as a society do that have done that and will always do that yeah what you wear what you drive all that shit is like we're we're judging you for what you spend your money on if you're you know you're the asshole who has the truck with the kit, we're like, you have a small dick.
Starting point is 01:12:46 You're the guy who wears the big red boots. You're fucking lame. All that shit. So I'm not going to let that fly. Nice try, Rizzi. Nice try. You're still a lame loser. We're all fucking losers on Twitter.
Starting point is 01:12:58 Today, Tommy fucking posted a video of Oreo 55 taking seven minutes to do the crossword. And I was like, guess what, Tommy? You're going to tweet that video and I can still go to it and go you have to buy twitter to tweet this video so who comes out looking like the bigger asshole at the end of it oreo 55 man that guy he's a legend it is tell me today today took me six and a half minutes and that's particularly long for me i'm usually nick said seven and a half minutes. That was a significant amount of creative license. I usually live in the minute and a half range. But I –
Starting point is 01:13:31 I mean if you don't know a word, you're fucked. Like it could take you ten minutes. I had a – Tommy had the camera on me the entire time. Pressure was out. Rudy was there chiming in. Keegs was there chiming in. That's – credit to you for even doing that. I knew it would be funny.
Starting point is 01:13:48 And then I was like, I'm not doing it. And then I stopped for a while. Today's World War 55, there's an asterisk next to it. There are a couple of things going on. World War 55, just on the couch watching Barry reruns. Two minutes. Man, a half to two minutes is about where I like to live. I got to start seeing where I'm at.
Starting point is 01:14:08 But now it is definitively kind of ruined. Because even if I'm like, I don't fucking care, it's still in the back of my mind and it's affecting how I play. The internet ruins everything. Everything. Everything. Because in the past, nobody would know your results. Or you could lie or whatever you could you know like i also like when i do old ones i do fucking i don't i don't count it as cheating it's i count it as like i don't know what this word is i'm looking it up like that's
Starting point is 01:14:38 like i don't know i don't like fucking when you don't know the answer you figure out what the answer is well i mean a crus, a crossword puzzle is cheating. But it's like... I guess I consider it the whole point of a crossword puzzle. I surrendered. Oh, okay. I don't know the answer to this. Well, that's fine.
Starting point is 01:14:53 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not still checking my time. I'm like, oh, I don't know what that answer is. Oh, no. But if you're like... I did the crossword puzzle, but you used the fucking... No, because I do. I like to...
Starting point is 01:15:03 I do. You obviously get one a day, but then when I'm sitting on the couch, I just go play old ones because I like doing it. Yeah, totally. And sometimes I'll get to a point where I'm like,
Starting point is 01:15:11 I just don't know what that is. Reveal word or whatever. And so I'm like, yes, I guess it's like... I jokingly say I cheat on the crossword. Not on the fucking day of, but I say I cheat on the... It's all so stupid. It's all so insane.
Starting point is 01:15:23 I say I cheat on the old ones. I'm like, I don't know the answer to that. I wonder what that answer is. I wonder what a word to describe a French restaurant is. I'll figure that out. Bistro? People fucking – I consider it learning. Other people call it cheating.
Starting point is 01:15:40 I really, man. I feel like it's equally as lame to be the person who's like, I want it all to disappear or whatever, but I'm at my wits' end, man. We're going to have to do this and live in this world and live in this job for another 30, 40 years? I don't think I can do another couple. It's ruined. It's ruined.
Starting point is 01:15:58 Life is ruined. It is. Actually, I have a segment on that I want to do, but the star of that segment isn't here today. And I'm going to save it. We'll do it live. We'll do it in Houston. I will debut it.
Starting point is 01:16:13 Get your tickets to Houston. You're aware of it. I texted you about it already. But I screen recorded it, so we have it. And what I want to tell them, come to houston just come to houston if you're in houston come see the show it'll be worth it just do a couple voicemails brought to you by pirate water i don't know if we're supposed to publicly talk about this but i'm gonna we uh already hit our year one goal for cases moves of pirate water we started on march 1st i think it is now end of
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Starting point is 01:17:46 They want to party with it. And I'll say that right now there's four flavors out that are all pretty good. I think that they realize now that they have a hit on their hands, so they're really putting in time and effort to their next flavors. And some of the next ones are going to smash. They're incredibly delicious. Smash. So get your Pirate Water.
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Starting point is 01:19:05 Hey, KFC, Nick, Jackie Pabs, and the Barstool Beast himself, Feidelberg. Don't worry, if you do get fired, there's always a place for you as an OnlyFans partner with Alex. She'd love to work with you. But, question. If Gerard Butler's characters,
Starting point is 01:19:20 he plays in his movies, so like Law-Abiding Citizen, all the Fallen movies, 300, Geostorm, any of them. So all the Gerard Butler characters in a battle royale. I love Danny Steele. He's right up our alley.
Starting point is 01:19:35 He just knows what we're about. This is an impossible question for you, I'd imagine. I don't know that it is. Oh really? You think there's a runaway? It comes down to two, I think. It's Mike from The Fall fallen, Mike Banning. Okay. I actually don't know if it's Bannon or Banning.
Starting point is 01:19:52 I think it's Banning. I think it's Banning, too. I can never tell by the pronunciation. I think it's... I think there's a... Or Law Abiding Citizen. I think it's Homeboy from 300. Ah, fuck.
Starting point is 01:20:06 No. Leonidas is getting his show fucking run, bro. What? I don't know. I don't know if – so let's see. So is it Banning or Bannon? Banning, right? Yeah, Banning.
Starting point is 01:20:16 Banning. Okay. So it's either Banning or it's my guy from Law Abiding Citizen. And that's – I mean that's easy. They'd give Leonidas the work. In what, bro, what,
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Starting point is 01:20:46 at the... We're not talking about who I want to protect the president. We're not talking about who I want to run a heist. We're talking about just like fight to the death. We're cutting out him playing a literal god, right? Yeah. But we're not cutting out him playing a literal warrior from
Starting point is 01:21:01 the most notorious warrior state that has ever existed. That dude's a bitch. Still lost. Yeah, that dude's a bitch. That dude couldn't even beat the Persians. And they're an extinct people. 300. There's only 300 of them. He was in
Starting point is 01:21:17 007? He must have been an extra or something. I mean, that was 20 years ago. He couldn't have been in anything really. Couldn't have been a character. That's not i mean that was 20 years ago he couldn't have been in yeah anything really could have been a character i mean that's not 20 it's 30 years ago right no it was the later one but yeah it's still in the 90s yeah you're right it's like 30 years ago um yeah what was he in his 20s yeah he must have been i couldn't i bet if you watched it he'd be unrecognizable he'd be so quick and so young. Yeah, he plays a leading seaman. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:49 How about Jay Nix tossing out a thirst trap a couple hours ago? I did. You see this? Yeah, I saw it right after I made fun of her. And then how about her caption? Dunno. Sorry, dunno. Corinthians 413. I think Leonidas doesn't even – I don't think Leonidas makes it to the final four
Starting point is 01:22:06 I mean you haven't even given me a reason You just keep saying that over and over again Just because he gets his shit run How? He gets fucking killed In hand to hand combat You think that Yes, yes
Starting point is 01:22:14 I think any secret service agent right now Would kill Leonidas Never mind a super I think you're fucking insane Do you know how much physical action those guys see? None. None. Do you know how much they're trained for?
Starting point is 01:22:28 All of it. They don't do it. Leonidas fought every day of his life for survival. The fact that you think Leonidas... Bro, a fucking beat cop could run Leonidas' show. Get lost. That is insane. Literally every single day of his life, he had to fight for survival with a fucking sword and shield.
Starting point is 01:22:47 Yes, it is. They did some training on scarecrows and they went through a fucking shield. Get the fuck out of here. The city-state of Sparta was constantly fighting. They were constantly at war and he was leading all of them. You think that some guy with a little earpiece being like, the president's here. Make sure that the fucking road's clear. It's going to be tougher than that guy.
Starting point is 01:23:06 Suck my dick, you fucking – Not the people who – not the Secret Service people who handle counterfeit. Secret Service people who are like retired Marines, retired Navy, run Leonidas out of the fucking building. Get the fuck out of here, dude. They're old – Den of Thieves, law-abidingiding Citizen and Mike Banning are giving him the work quick fast and then we can get on to
Starting point is 01:23:30 Bounty Hunter might beat all of them Bounty Hunter might beat all of them Dude from the Ugly Truth probably kicks the shit out of Leonidas Crazy Leonidas, bro, Google it Leonidas was probably 5'5 That you might be true Leonidas was 5'5", a buck 30.
Starting point is 01:23:46 Yeah, that might be very true. 5'6". 5'6", bro! Leonidas wouldn't make it out of this room alive. That part might be true, yeah. Hand-to-hand combat. Leonidas is not a top four. Tough.
Starting point is 01:24:03 Hold on, this is a different Leonidas. Oh. Oh, wait. He's a center forward. Center forward? What does that mean? Oh, 6'2", motherfucker. 6'2"?
Starting point is 01:24:13 Well, in the weight. No. Wait. Oh, not as portrayed by the 6'2 guy. So now we need, what is the height and weight of the Greek king? 6'7", 240, motherfucker. No, we're looking at. That's a greek
Starting point is 01:24:25 basketball player damn it who knew there's so many people named leonidas you know why because they named after him because
Starting point is 01:24:31 he's a fucking gangster dude leonidas was just john in ancient greece the uh yeah let's i don't know
Starting point is 01:24:38 how big is he i bet he wasn't that big it's all fucking relative from 5'7 to 5'10 it's all relative it's all relative yeah he's 5'7 to 5'10. It's all relative. It's all relative.
Starting point is 01:24:45 Yeah, he's 5'7 to 5'10. He's like their modern day, he's like their day's fucking MMA fighter. Sure. He's gonna get his ass kicked by Mike Banning. You think that Mike Banning's gonna beat up a fucking MMA savage right now? Yep. No way. Yes, dude. No fucking way. Leonidas, again, he's not a...
Starting point is 01:25:01 Mike Banning is nothing but a reckless asshole with a gun. That's it. He doesn't make it to the Final Four. Mike Banning, take away Mike Banning's guns. He ain't shit, bro. Please, dude. He's talking about a knife. Maybe you got an argument. But Mike Banning will run a knife through your head.
Starting point is 01:25:12 He's such a fucking chump, too. It's like, what kind of a fucking loser is willing to die for the president? Let's talk about that. Put my life on the line for that dickhead? Fuck you. That guy sucks. The machine gun preacher. How is Gerard Butler not on this show yet come on dude it is there's nobody else in the world who gives him this much play all of this had to do
Starting point is 01:25:33 like fuck when this first came up i had something i wanted to say dementia dude i'm telling you we're gonna die soon there is fuck next voicemail wait what was what was his voicemail because it was right after the voicemail I was like oh I had something to say about that it was uh if you're gonna do OnlyFans with Alex yeah
Starting point is 01:25:50 and then he said if there was a battle royale who would win that was it that was it that was it you should take up that offer though there god damn it dude
Starting point is 01:26:01 you have permission to quit this show and go be an OnlyFans star with Alex Cole if you want to I would totally understand The I get awkward when that comes How do you respond to I would too
Starting point is 01:26:14 The problem is it's not a joke It's very very serious This poor star wants to fuck you and you can get paid to do it Pretty cool I'd rather argue about Mike Banning please and that's what twitter is it's people who are offered sex and they said can i argue about dumb shit instead yep kfc fights nick jackie pavs long time listener was uh eating drive-thru mcdonald's on the highway today girlfriend and i were debating do you think there have been more McDonald's French fries
Starting point is 01:26:45 dropped between the crevice of the center council and the two front seats, or the total number of Jews that died in the Holocaust? For reference, I believe there was about 7 million Jews that died in the Holocaust. So I think there's been more than 7 million French fries dropped between that center council. Viva.
Starting point is 01:27:10 Bro. Never. Did you guys know that was coming? No. Did you? Never in a billion years did I see Holocaust coming. Bravo. I thought never in a billion years did I see Holocaust coming. Bravo.
Starting point is 01:27:28 You guys you got your fucking food sitting there right? Get the cup holder. Get the bag. You got the McChicken. Oh a fry went down. No wonder. You think we lost more fries
Starting point is 01:27:44 or Arries in the 40s like how is that babe you know what that's a good question i've been thinking about this that just rang a bell in my head jews in the holocaust had a tough go on what did you think he was gonna say i thought I thought he was going to say how many... Or cell phones dropped. Right, right. It's always these things, like, you know, or like... Was it french fries dropped or cell phones dropped? Not fucking french fries or human beings turned to ash.
Starting point is 01:28:29 Jesus! Jesus Christ dude that is turned to ash oh my god we might legit get in trouble for this one why? we didn't say
Starting point is 01:28:44 no but we're just laughing so hard. It's unbelievably funny. Dude, the way he delivered that is. Dude, nothing gets edited. This is unbelievably funny. No, no, no. This is all standard. This is definitely standard.
Starting point is 01:28:54 The Pirate Water logo might not be on this one. Yeah, yeah. Put that on the Gerard Butler debate. The way he just said it. So, or Jews in the Holocaust. In fact, that's what Walt Disney based the French fry on. He always had Holocaust on the brain. And he was like...
Starting point is 01:29:13 Walt was like, look, those guys were doing some good things. I'd like to leave a similar mark on the world. Jesus Christ. Oh, my God. Oh, God. He was big into human genetics. I mean, to answer the question. I can't think of a joke.
Starting point is 01:29:30 To answer the question, I don't think we're touching... No, it's French fries. It's for sure French fries. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's for sure. For sure it's French fries. It's for sure. For sure it's french fries. It's a hundred million
Starting point is 01:29:48 servings. It's billions and billions served. But then you've got to think of if there's a billion, let's call it one billion for sake. Every fry has let's call it from a small to a large, let's call it
Starting point is 01:30:03 at least average 30 fries right? oh way more than that I was going to say 100 in a like a small is like fucking 10
Starting point is 01:30:13 oh you were saying an average yeah yeah but then you know you got to find out how many people drove through
Starting point is 01:30:20 really not how many people got served dude I think this is only a debate if we're talking about a single mcdonald's location if we're talking about the mcdonald's in the world it's you think there's been six million fries from one location spilled in the car yes yeah
Starting point is 01:30:43 yeah yeah i'm not saying you're wrong i'm just i'm just trying to lay it out here like depending From one location spilled in the car. Yes! Yeah? Yeah. Yeah? I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just trying to lay it out here. Depending on how long that establishment has been there? Yeah! When I drive home, I'll be honest. I have not spilled french fries in my car the last 20 times I've gone to McDonald's. I haven't gone to McDonald's in a car in probably 10 years. Well, so now we're making cases for the Jews, okay?
Starting point is 01:31:04 But then... I get what he's saying. It's a thing. You're reaching. You drop a couple here and there. I'm not saying it can't happen. Oh, I think if I were to go to McDonald's right now and get a bag of – get an order, I'm solo. I'm alone.
Starting point is 01:31:20 I'm not with Bay in the car. Right. I'm not with fucking – what was Hitler's girlfriend's name? Eva Braun. Yeah, Eva Braun's not riding shotgun with me. I'm just going alone. So I get my bag of food, put it in the passenger seat, of course, put a seatbelt on it because that's going to get the thing going. Naturally.
Starting point is 01:31:42 And then I start reaching over eating my fries. You're dropping a couple. Oh, baby 10. 10, 20. Yeah, yeah. Then you're going down. Bro, if I – And they're not all going right between the crack.
Starting point is 01:31:51 If we're – Yeah, if it has to be between the console. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If we're going through that crack, three. One or two, yeah. But then a million people do that like every year or whatever and then it adds up. If we're talking about a McDonald's location that's been there for 10 years,
Starting point is 01:32:07 there's one in Fall River, Massachusetts that has been there my entire life. It's right off Ellsbury Street, off by 24 Rotary. That thing is the Auschwitz of McDonald's. Dude, if I could take a men in black mind eraser just to be able to experience that guy saying six million jews in the holocaust again i would do it just for reference if i could you've never heard of history who's got six to seven million jews If I could live – I think we've done a question before. Like if you were Drew Barrymore in 51st Dates, what day would you want to live over and over again?
Starting point is 01:32:54 I think I would be forced to pick this day just to relive the reveal that his other side of the hypothetical was the Holocaust. It was that good of a moment. If you're listening, today's been a grind. Kevin and I have been talking non-stop for seven hours. The last thing I wanted to do was voicemails and this proved to be well worth it. Well, well worth it.
Starting point is 01:33:16 Automatic first ballot voicemail hall of fame. We'll be talking about this one for a decade to come. Remember the McDonald's? We'll be debating this in Houston. This will be in Houston, Dallas, Austin. The graphics that I'm going to make Nick whip up for this one, man. Oh, you're going to have to do some arches and some gas chambers. We'll do Nuggets versus 9-11.
Starting point is 01:33:37 God damn. What do you think people say is more underrated? Dunkin' Donuts, hash browns, or 9-11? It's Cameron on KC Radio. It's the playoffs. The Boston Bruins are up 3-1. They will be up 4-1, a.k.a. win the series on Wednesday, which means that you have time to get your gear in order for
Starting point is 01:34:06 round two gentlemen's soup is what we call it we got pasta shirts we got McAvoy shirts we got the brush shirts I don't think I can say any of these names because they're not technically their shirts but we got all kinds of Boston Bruins gear Celtics are in the playoffs
Starting point is 01:34:24 I don't know if you're a New York gear. Celtics are in the playoffs. I don't know. If you're a New York listener, all your teams are in the playoffs too. Until they run into a Boston team, that is. So go get the coolest gear. The coolest. It genuinely is. Sometimes I get so annoyed making this stuff where I'm like, I put in effort and try and try and make cool things. And other times it's just easier to just be like, Boston hockey.
Starting point is 01:34:44 But I don't know. Whatever. I like to work on it. just easier to just be like Boston hockey. But I don't know. Whatever. I like to work on it. I like to try. I'd love you to go buy it if you are, I don't know, in the mood to wear shirts from the winning team because they're going to win the Stanley Cup championship. Stanley Cup final.
Starting point is 01:34:59 I don't know why I said championship. Whatever. So why settle for basic when you can stand out with Barstool Sports? That's a tagline I had to say. Anyway, go to store.barstoolsports.com. Looking sharp, man. Thank you for coming. Come on, man. Cut it out, man. I appreciate you guys.
Starting point is 01:35:13 Shut up! I'm real corporate right now. Let it loose, dude. Fuck out of here. Alright, well now that we got that out of the way, man. I'm John, by the way. What's up, dude? Kevin. Nice to meet you. Nice'm just a real drill. All right. Well, now that we got that out of the way, man. What's up? I'm John, by the way.
Starting point is 01:35:26 What's up, dude? Kevin. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you, man. Don't forget your hard out. Two o'clock. I got it. He's a busy man.
Starting point is 01:35:32 Real life hard out. Yes. Real life hard out. I got you. I got you. We good over there? Yeah. Dude, you, it's a big deal for me, man.
Starting point is 01:35:43 I was just saying, like, I don't usually get nervous for interviews, but, I mean, I grew up listening to your music. And, like, you know, having you kind of reemerge in this, in the world of, like, sports media and talk and all that shit is wild. Yeah, man. And like I said, first of all, thanks for having me. Dude, stop saying that. I didn't know what he was rolling the first time. I appreciate it. All right, I didn't know if we were rolling either
Starting point is 01:36:05 So I want to say you guys both smell unbelievable This really smells like a locker room It smells great in here right now I appreciate it But yeah thanks for being a fan as well Yeah man So like what was the I mean I just remembered a couple weeks ago
Starting point is 01:36:18 All of a sudden I started hearing about the Mario Chalmers shit But I was like where did he say this? Like what is that? And I come to realize like you and Mace have this new show, like full-blown studio show. How does that come about? Well, I had this idea for a minute. They've been stepping to me for years, do a podcast, Kim, do a podcast.
Starting point is 01:36:36 And I'm like, I don't want to have to talk to people for a living. Like, I don't really want to have to be a job. Like, I admire you guys. Like, if I don't want to talk, so a job. I admire you guys. If I don't want to talk, so for years I've been turning down podcasts, reality shows, all type of shit that I don't really want to do. So I love sports, and I was saying to myself about a year ago,
Starting point is 01:36:59 I'm like, everybody has these podcasts, but what if you get a professional setting and it meets the barbershop? So that's what I was thinking for like a year. I'm like, professional setting, turn it on, it looks good. Niggas are wearing suits and all that shit. But we talking like we in the barbershop or on the block or in the gambling spot. Anywhere that, you know, in urban America, niggas talk shit about sports. So I was like, fuck it. So I ended up putting some money up, funding everything myself.
Starting point is 01:37:24 Me and Mace ended up, you know, being friends. We was on the outs for like 15, 16, fuck it. So I ended up putting some money up, funding everything myself. Me and Mace ended up, you know, being friends. We was on the outs for like 15, 16, 17 years. You guys kind of reconciled a few years ago, right? Not even a few years ago. Like, honestly, like August. Oh, wait, really? Yeah. Was it because of this?
Starting point is 01:37:40 Like, or once you got good, it was like, let's do a show. No, what happened was, was You know He did another podcast Million Dollars Worth of Game Shout out to Gilly Wallo Basically he got on there And he was You know
Starting point is 01:37:52 Cause we've been A little feuding But we never seen each other Little songs here and there Never was no physical shit So he was like You know one person I miss is Cam
Starting point is 01:38:00 And if I You know he did a He did a diss record Towards me He's like I didn't want to do that But but I had to do it to him. Yeah, yeah. He explained himself well, though.
Starting point is 01:38:09 Yeah, no, it was genuine. Is that how you saw it? So Mace went on Million Dollars Worth of Game and said when he got money, he felt like that's when it all fell apart. And his side of the story was like, I might have been flashy, but I really didn't make all that money yet. And a lot of people thought that I did and that I wasn't being generous. Is that how you saw it?
Starting point is 01:38:27 Yeah, I thought he was real genuine. So we had a mutual friend. Shout out to Sham God. He's from my neighborhood. So I called Sham. I was like, tell me someone speaks to him. I love the nigga. So we spoke, you know, and then we were supposed to do a tour.
Starting point is 01:38:40 It didn't work out. And we just stayed in contact. And then I know he knows sports. He's always calling me about sports and I was like yo you want to co-host this shit and see how it works out and that's how it came about so you guys just shooting the shit like you would just you know hop on the phone but you see you know
Starting point is 01:38:53 you see LeBron last night you see whatever the thing about it is we gonna do it anyway it's gonna happen anyway it ain't like we're not gonna yo you seen what just happened or you in the house with your friends or whoever yo yo, my nigga, that's going to happen regardless. So if we could capture it and make it make sense.
Starting point is 01:39:09 Press record, make some money off of it. Yeah. Dude, I actually, I'm glad you brought up the barbershop because I recently went to a barbershop for my first time. Wow. In your life? If you can see this hair, this hair, this kid's cutting a salon, Ken. A salon hair like like, okay.
Starting point is 01:39:27 And it was exactly like that. It was like, I was in Massachusetts. I was home from my nephew's baptism. And I had to get my beard trimmed because I looked homeless. And I was like, yeah, I live in New York. They're like, oh, you're from New York? And we started arguing right away. I was like, oh, this is fucking sick. I They're like, oh, you're from New York? And we started arguing right away. Right. I was like, oh, this is fucking sick.
Starting point is 01:39:46 I should do more of this rather than having ladies trim my hair. The Italian barbershop I used to go to, I feel like you can have, you know, there's different barbershops. There's a different, you know, barbershop for the black guys, barbershop for the white guys, the salon. The Italian guys I used to go to, just always talking in Italian, you know. But you could tell it was the same exact shit. You know what I mean? It's like, I don't know what they were saying, but it's the same everywhere. Right. That setting, you know? Right. But you could tell it was the same exact shit. You know what I mean? It's like, I don't know what they were saying, but it's the same everywhere.
Starting point is 01:40:07 Right. That setting, you know? Exactly. So you guys... Well, even if you look, sorry to cut you off, but like, you know, it's more like set up, but like even LeBron's shit is a barbershop. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:17 You know, they set it up, you know, it's not... It looks pretty or whatever, but it's... Yeah, you know, it's a little... It's not a barbershop, barbershop. Jon Stewart's there. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Exactly. pretty or whatever but it's you know it's a little it's not a barbershop barbershop like john stewart exactly exactly so but they felt the reason to make it that setting because that's where all the shit talking goes on but so it feels like you were i mean you've acted before right a few movies we were just talking about um some of the vlogs that you like basically early vlogs where you like you were on camera doing funny shit, letting people in, like, letting people see things, like, kind of ahead of the curve on all that, you know?
Starting point is 01:40:50 Right. I don't know if you were just doing it to do it. Like, it wasn't, you're not building a show or whatever at that point, but you were just like, let me put some shit out there that's. I'm just, to be honest with you, as far as you mean, like, with social media? Yeah, I mean, it was, like, a lot of that shit. The Walgreens one. Okay. Was there glue involved in that?
Starting point is 01:41:08 What you talking about when the girl had the mayonnaise in her ass? Yeah. Nah. Yo, what is sex? Are you talking about the one where the girl had the mayonnaise in her ass? Nah. If you haven't seen it, it's Cam in a fucking Walgreens with these chicks, and they're stealing shit or you know putting shit up her ass
Starting point is 01:41:25 like in between her ass cheeks and she puts a bottle of fucking Miracle Whip not Helmet Miracle Whip in her ass cheeks and shit's stuck in there man
Starting point is 01:41:34 yeah yeah there was no glue involved dude when she runs at the end she had like a Pepsi at the end I think and she runs and she starts breaking
Starting point is 01:41:41 I was like how the fuck is that not falling out see the thing about it I've been in them strip clubs early. You know, all these tricks going on now ain't new. Y'all just catching up, man. That be going on a long time ago.
Starting point is 01:41:54 But no glue. That was straightly her ass muscles. If she was eight months pregnant, her baby would have fallen out. And that fucking Pepsi thing stayed in there. Yeah, she was good. Girls are putting bottles in their ass and pouring drinks now. You ever seen that? I've seen it poured the reverse way.
Starting point is 01:42:10 I've seen the drink poured in. No, a girl has a bottle in their ass, and she'll serve you a drink at your table with the bottle in her ass. Basically, her ass is just her hands pouring the drink. Like a bottle of liquor? Yes, a bottle of liquor. That's what's going on in there. I got to go to the strip club.
Starting point is 01:42:27 We just got back from Amsterdam. Okay. We went to a place called the Banana Room. Where they, yeah. Yo, bro, there's a lot of paws. There was a lot of paws in Amsterdam. Everywhere you look, bro. So she puts the banana in her pussy.
Starting point is 01:42:40 She peels it halfway, puts the peeled half in, and then you got to take a bite out of the banana, like, in her pussy. Right peels it halfway, puts the peeled half in, and then you've got to take a bite out of the banana in her pussy. Pause. I'm not taking a bite out of a banana from nobody. I was on potassium that night. First of all, if I eat a banana, I slice it up.
Starting point is 01:42:58 You don't even put it... No, I slice it up. How many paws per episode do you think you get? We're calming down now. Yeah, the first like three. Mason even said, he was like, I can't even talk. Everything I say is paws.
Starting point is 01:43:12 It's that petty. That's what I'm saying. It's that petty. But we're starting to calm down. But that just lets you know it's like all natural shit. Because we would do that anyway. That's what I'm saying. It also, like real quick, it gave the show. Like when we were talking about the show, it was like everyone talked about paws. That's what I'm saying. It also, real quick, it gave the show,
Starting point is 01:43:26 when we were talking about the show, it was like everyone talked about Paws. It was your guy's thing now. It differentiates you from other. What about, man, so I started Googling shit, and I found a old, I can't believe I've never seen this before, you on Comedy Central as Mr. Cupid or whatever, Cupid. That skit, Ricky Velez was in it and a couple other comedians
Starting point is 01:43:47 that shit was hilarious man that was like some Chappelle's shit like skit level, I mean that was funny Comedy Central, I worked on that show for, I did like 8-9 episodes on that show, you know what I'm saying I don't want to disrespect the guy whose show it was
Starting point is 01:44:03 because he's a big deal he's a big deal. He's a big deal. But that was something. So moral story is kind of like what you guys said. So the internet is my playground. So you got niggas right now who came up off the net. Like, if I don't get this many likes, I'm going to panic.
Starting point is 01:44:25 Why didn't, yo, nobody's liking this video. Because their come up is off social media or YouTube or anything internet related. I didn't come up off the internet and I was good before the internet. So the internet to me is just nothing but extra. It's a tool. Yeah, like I'm still good at what I've done.
Starting point is 01:44:44 So when the internet comes around i'm like oh this shit is just fun or whatever i don't give a fuck i post whatever i want to post i'm not trying to make a dollar off it and then people like yo this shit's craig kim you should do this and do that and i'm like i didn't even try i just this was just a random thought because sometime i'll post it and move on in five minutes i'm like oh shit i forgot i posted that's why it works though yeah if the people who care too much and try too hard, it doesn't work. Right. You're just actually busting balls, talking shit,
Starting point is 01:45:10 whatever. You just use it that way. I'm not ever busting balls. I'm going to try to throw you as many pauses. I want you to say it every single time. Listen, I know it's Italian shit, but I know it's Italian. Don't call him Italian. Fuck that. I'll pause on that. We don't do Italians here, man. I'm not in that bar't know don't call them italians oh fuck that i'll pause on that
Starting point is 01:45:25 we don't do italians here man i'm not in that barbershop anymore the answer to your question the show it was um they reached out to me and they had a bunch of different roles that they thought would be funny it's not just that cupid thing it was a bunch of different shit i was saying on one day and you know it was a lot of different shit I was Santa one day It was a lot of joint drinks I did But they reached out because of shit that I'd just done Were you always naturally I think that actually Rap and comedy I think kind of go hand in hand Because when you think about it
Starting point is 01:45:54 A lot of your shit A lot of it's funny A lot of it's actually humor Comedians do their act And you guys just kind of do it in music and rhyme form. But it's all about jokes, really, at the end of the day. So were you always known as a funny dude who... To be honest, growing up, I really wasn't funny because I come from a serious neighborhood.
Starting point is 01:46:18 You know what I'm saying? But at the same time, you got to know how to snap and talk shit to each other because you'll get eaten alive if you don't like i come from a harsh like and i'm talking about not even playing shit like yo your mom just bought crack for me yesterday don't talk to me like that type of shit that type of crew but it'd be real but it's like yo it's like because i'm that one's over someone and they say your mom just bought crack from you- Yo, I'm serious. That type of shit, though, because I explain to people who ain't grow up, and I'm like,
Starting point is 01:46:51 looking back at it, it was normal, but I'm like, yo, niggas would say some really harsh shit to each other. I'm talking about harsh. I'm just like, well, I just told you it wasn't a made-up story. I'm just trying to tell you it's that level type of shit. So you got to be funny and you got to, you know,
Starting point is 01:47:06 at the same time it's serious shit. So with me, I really think that it's like, I'm just going to say what's really going on that you don't want to say and say it the way I'm saying it
Starting point is 01:47:16 and niggas will be like, oh, that nigga Cam is crazy. But my thing is, how am I crazy for saying some shit that you did? You know what I'm saying? Niggas will make you say you crazy because you're talking about some shit that they did.
Starting point is 01:47:29 You know what I mean? That's a great point. It's a fact. That happens around here a lot with martial arts. You can't say that they did that. What the fuck? He fucking said it, dude. I'll tell you something.
Starting point is 01:47:38 Saying what other people are afraid to say or won't say, it makes people uncomfortable, dude. It's like a superpower if you're willing to just fucking say it and tell it like it is you have the upper hand you're in control you're funny everybody knows already you're not you're not outing anybody or snitching or whatever it's just like i'm just talking about it we all know it i'm gonna say it but all day like oh he said it yeah but you know that you're so right man there's so many things in life where i'm like fucking why don't we just talk about this why are we protecting somebody or whatever it's you fucked up or you did it and it's out there yeah but we ought to be quiet about it it's so true man um so i want to talk about a couple of the classic moments um Particularly, I feel like there's a lot of people out there who use the YouMad meme
Starting point is 01:48:28 and probably don't even know the back story or the video, right? Yeah. Because to me, that's one of the all-time classic internet videos, videos period. How does something like that even come about? Because you also, I mean, I feel you were on Katie Cour couric you were anderson cooper bill o'reilly like you don't see a lot of rappers you know on those shows and doing those things but you're on a lot of them right is that something you like wanted to do or dame dash set that up or yeah well at the time i was at rockefeller so you know they had a great publicist at the time and a lot of those opportunities were presented but people are scared to take the
Starting point is 01:49:05 opportunity so particularly with the you mad bill o'reilly situation there's like you want to go on bill o'reilly i'm like i don't know who bill o'reilly is now who is that not really and they're like i don't know i don't remember if it was um msnbc or cnn whatever channel he was on intrigued me. And I was like, CNN? Back. I don't want to go on CNN, nigga. They're like, yo, Kim's an asshole. I'm telling you this. So they're trying to give me all this information. Now, mind you, there's no internet,
Starting point is 01:49:35 so it ain't like I could just go look him up at the time. So I'm like, I don't give a fuck. I'm me, so I don't care when I go up there. But, you know, the whole staff at Rockefeller at the time is trying to warn me, okay, Kim,
Starting point is 01:49:48 I say, y'all not really giving a fuck. Yo, when you go on someone's show that's big, but you don't know
Starting point is 01:49:53 that they're big or important, it's the best. Yeah. I don't give a fuck about you. I'm not going to play by the rules.
Starting point is 01:49:58 Yeah, exactly. I'm not going to change myself for you. I don't even know who you are. So now they're just trying to prep me and now I'm like,
Starting point is 01:50:03 extra like, okay, he's an asshole, so whatever, I'm ready for this. So basically't even know who you are. So now they're just trying to prep me and now I'm like extra like okay he's an asshole so whatever I'm ready for this. So basically we get up there and the first thing he says is Cameron who's known for rhyming about pimps and hoes and all this. Pimping bitches.
Starting point is 01:50:15 Yeah about pimping bitches. So I was like bet it's on. From the jump. And that's how that all came about. Soon as they prepped me. Soon as he said Cameron rhyming about pimping soon as they prepped me, as soon as he said Cam'ron rapping about pimping bitches, I said, yeah, we're going to have a good time. Yo, I just rewatched
Starting point is 01:50:32 it. You guys actually kept you cool for a little while. I give you credit for even trying to be... No, we kept our cool the whole time because I've never got mad. What happened is this. So this is what also happened. Because I never got mad. That shit was all, I don't give a fuck. Because the principal, he was telling me that
Starting point is 01:50:47 rap music had too much influence on his kids. And I'm like, I dig it, but that means they got to check out what's at home. I'm not saying music doesn't influence, but you got to see what's going on at home. You're in school six, seven hours a day. Y'all have an effect on the kids. So yada, yada, yada.
Starting point is 01:51:05 More of the story is I didn't, I lied. If you look, only time I got loud was him because he tried to cut me off. I said, no, you shut up. It's my go. But the thing that was funny is, let me tell you this part. So I'm poster going by myself. So I heard Dane was on before that, and he didn't like, you know, Dame is real arrogant. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:51:30 I didn't see the episode to where he feel he didn't get the best of Bill O'Reilly or whatever. So I remember being in the office, and Dame is like, he comes in the office like, yo, you going on Bill O'Reilly with tomorrow? I'm like, yeah, that's what they said. Some nigga named Bill O'Reilly. I'm going to mall so so dame is like i don't know if you're ready for him by yourself i'm going with you no no i'm definitely going with you because you don't know this type of guy and i'm like all right whatever let's go so that's how dame ended up even coming on the show as well that is
Starting point is 01:52:03 that is that time moment that was like kind of the original, almost like crying Jordan, where it was like, you can't beat it. You just tell him, dude, you're mad. And then you can't fight back. No, I'm not. No, I'm not. Oh, yeah. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:52:19 What was the, I mean, I guess some of it came to light, but you had some dirt on him? Was it all that shit that? No, you know, like I said, I didn some of it came to light, but you had some dirt on him? Was it all that shit that... No, you know, like I said, I didn't know the guy. So what happened is my publicist is telling me all this shit. Like, if he get crazy, say this. The good publicist. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:33 You ready to go to war. Yeah, so she was telling me all this shit. Like, if he say something, you got this, you got this. So I had all this information of shit that he supposedly did, whether he did it or not, whatever. But I had it in my bra. I didn't even have to use it. But they fed me that information.
Starting point is 01:52:50 That's why I was like, yeah, I got some info on you if I need to dig up some dirt on you right now. Cam had the sexual harassment stuff. Yo, I was going to say. 20 years early? Yeah. You could have broke that news decades earlier. Whatever it was, I didn't even get a chance to use it
Starting point is 01:53:04 because I was just having too much fun. I didn't even need the information. What jersey were you in? I know it was a jazz jersey. Yeah, I was in a jazz jersey. Do you remember who it was? I actually looked up the roster who was on it then. I couldn't figure out who it could have been.
Starting point is 01:53:15 I don't remember either. I was guessing Andre Karolinko. I don't know if I have 40. I don't know. I'm not even sure. AK-47? Yeah, that's my guy. The other, like, famous, infamous interview I remember was Anderson Cooper asking about if you would call the police on a serial killer.
Starting point is 01:53:34 Yeah. When you just said, I would just move. Yeah. I don't want to live near a serial killer. I'm just moving. Yeah. Classic. They edited a lot of that shit out, though.
Starting point is 01:53:46 Because what I was saying is also, you know, basically, so we can tap on that for a minute. You know, they were talking about, because like I said, they edited a lot out. They were talking about serial killers and just basically the snitching shit. And I was like, look, what I said that didn't make the show is, look, even if somebody tells, right, you're putting the urban society. I'm giving it from an urban society. You get an informant, you get them to tell because they tell that doesn't mean that the person that they're telling on is going to get convicted. Now the person doesn't get convicted and you're back in the same community with the person you told on. So why should somebody tell if it's not a guarantee this person's going to jail and now you got to be back in the same community not only with him or her but with all the other people
Starting point is 01:54:31 calling you a snitch and it didn't even work yeah they didn't put all that shit in there let me ask you this too though because a part of your answer was also you're saying you know my audience and the people who buy my records you said you, you know, on a bad day I go gold, on a good day I'm selling two million, you know. And they, my audience wants to, like, they don't want to see me do that. They're the type of people who, you know, live by that code or whatever. Do you think, do you really believe that in a sense? Like, you think it actually affects record sales or whether people like your music, if something like that would happen?
Starting point is 01:55:03 I don't know, but today is a whole other story. Back then it was a big thing. There's a lot of people in rap who talk the talk and don't necessarily walk the walk. You've got to realize where I'm from. I'm just from a different era. I was just having this conversation with a couple friends of mine.
Starting point is 01:55:21 Allegedly, all these CEOs in the 90s were drug dealers. Allegedly, Master P was a drug dealer. Allegedly, Baby was a drug dealer. Allegedly,
Starting point is 01:55:30 Jay-Z and Dame Dash were drug dealers. Allegedly, the people who started Rough Riders were drug dealers. Allegedly. Those are the people who was finding the artists
Starting point is 01:55:37 in the hood. So, we, you know, I'm at that age where those were older guys to me too. So,
Starting point is 01:55:44 if they're putting you under their wing and these are former drug dealers, supposedly, why would you even take that culture, the culture that they're living, talking about selling drugs, to make a better life? You got to realize, you know, just because you sell drugs doesn't mean you're not trying to do something better. That's just the opportunity that's presented in front of you. So all these people have done something better. Why would you take snitching into that culture? Today it's a totally different thing.
Starting point is 01:56:08 So that's how I was kind of raised and how I saw things. So that's perfect. Absolutely. When you were playing ball when you were coming up, I feel like on Sex, Drugs, and Entertainment, you were pretty open about how you thought you fucked up your going to school in Texas, right? Absolutely. You look back on that and wish you did things differently?
Starting point is 01:56:28 To be honest, no, because my basketball career would have been over. Right, right. It would have been over a long time ago. It's like I regret that I did something a certain way, but I'm happy it happened because a lot more doors opened. To be honest with you, I'm happy that shit happened because the timing couldn't have been any better. Like, you know, my first year I redshirted because I tore all the ligaments in my ankle.
Starting point is 01:56:52 In Texas? University of Texas? No, I was supposed to go to University of Miami. I didn't go back to school, so they sent me to JUCO in Texas, Navarro Junior College, and Corsican in Texas, but I tore my ligaments. So I had too much time on my hands. You know, I wasn't playing ball. I redshirted, et cetera, so I ended up getting kicked out.
Starting point is 01:57:11 But when I came home, Mace is a year older than me, and he was in the process of almost getting the deal. Not almost, but, you know, like a year later, getting the deal, and I ran around with him just trying to make sure his shit was good and making sure his shit was right and learning and so on and so forth so we caught a time period where it was like perfect because i got kicked out of school i'm like what the fuck i'm gonna do for like six months mace almost gets a deal so i'm staying with him till he gets his deal you know i'm saying and then it worked out
Starting point is 01:57:40 for me yeah i think that's i think that's pretty smart. I don't think it worked out right. The whole shit is I tried to go to school in New York afterwards. I tried to say, okay, let me at least get the rest of this semester in Monroe College in the Bronx. I never made it to the train station. Between my building and the train station, I know too many niggas. I stop here, I talk to this nigga 20 minutes. Next block, I stop here, I'm talking to this nigga for another 15 minutes. I stop, then
Starting point is 01:58:05 I gotta walk five avenues to the train. I ain't got no, this broke can walk to the train, go to school. So by the time I get to the train station, I'm supposed to have been in class. Now I'm like, fuck the whole day. I tried though. But it worked out, basically. If you had
Starting point is 01:58:21 played out your career, how do you think it would have gone? You think it would have gone? Let's just say everything works out perfectly. Your injury doesn't happen or you heal, whatever. You get back to Miami. Where do you think you end up? I wouldn't have been good. You were all-American in high school, right?
Starting point is 01:58:41 Yeah, I was 15-year-old American. It's a big jump. People are like, oh, he could have made the league. I'm not going to underestimate myself, underestimate myself but you gotta realize this right and when you're in i never as much as i played basketball i never really understood basketball until i stopped playing basketball because i've been playing basketball since i'm six years old seven years old so my heart always been in it once you're out of it and you're financially stable doing something else and you could really enjoy basketball because you're not so emotionally involved because even if you're not playing and your friends is playing you're like this nigga in north carolina i'll bust his ass you know i gave him the scholarship you're still mad
Starting point is 01:59:17 yeah you're still emotionally involved when you when i stopped playing basketball i was like yo man just this and I really got to realize I graduated I would have graduated in 1998 if I did four years of college think about the 96 draft class I can't fuck with none of that that era man
Starting point is 01:59:38 the 98 all star game even Steph he's in that shit and I played against Steph I did well every time I played against stuff but stuff got better and better and better like i'm i can't fuck with nobody in the 96 draft class in the in the lottery no i wouldn't have been that good yeah that's that's still pretty good i was gonna say that's not even fair no but what i'm saying is no but what i'm saying is you got to put that time frame. During my time frame, I would have been in college. Okay, so how about this?
Starting point is 02:00:06 Do you think there is a time frame that you would have made the league? I could play today if I was young enough because you don't have a foul. That's what I mean. So if you were 22, 23 right now. I don't even want to say it now because kids, the game done caught up. Now you could go on YouTube and see what this person. Nobody really got an advantage. Like, you know,
Starting point is 02:00:25 sometimes, you do a move, or this move, or whatever, only person who got the advantage in the world is Kyrie. Nobody still don't know what the fuck he gonna do
Starting point is 02:00:32 when he's dribbling. But, the thing is that, every, you can see with this move, when you got this trainer, or you got this camp, or you got this person.
Starting point is 02:00:40 It's so advanced now. It's so advanced, so I don't wanna even say today, only reason I said today is because, you know, there's no hand checking. There's no foreman when it's defensive. You know, basically if you touch somebody, you're going to get fouled. And I'm used to even having to play through all that contact. Do you still play?
Starting point is 02:01:00 No, not like I used to. It's not worth it now, man. You just reached a point where even if you're still in shape, it's not worth it. It's cool to shoot around, but like tournaments and shit? Nah, like 21 years. You know, shit like that. So with this shit with Mace, like you guys decide to do this show. Are you thinking like this is going to be, you know, for fun? We're going to fuck around? You're thinking like, is gonna be a you know for fun we're gonna fuck
Starting point is 02:01:25 around you're thinking like yo we could have a career doing this like did it start thinking about like we're gonna make a business we're gonna sell ads we're gonna do money or was it really just like we're just gonna fuck around have a good time just fuck around yeah just fuck around again that's when it works when you don't need it you don't you're not gonna play by the rules just like whatever let's have a good time here. Yeah, this was just all fucking around shit. I love the video you had, I think it was on Instagram stories, where,
Starting point is 02:01:50 you know, I guess you started to say some shit and people were saying you were going to get canceled. Right. And Cam was like,
Starting point is 02:01:55 you can't cancel someone who canceled themselves. Like, I walked away from rap when my mom got sick. Like, I was selling millions of records
Starting point is 02:02:03 and I just walked away. Mace went seven times platinum and then decided to become a pastor. We canceled ourselves. from rap when my mom got sick like i i was selling millions of records and i just walked away mace mace went seven times platinum and then decided to become a pastor we canceled ourselves you cannot cancel us if we do it to ourselves that's a fact but all that's all that's truth like when you you're just dealing with some harlem niggas man you know niggas just don't give a fuck we always gonna find a plan to get some bread you know i'm saying so what happened was it wasn't really, you know, I'm not even about to say this, it wasn't really about,
Starting point is 02:02:27 so you can't see the live when you repost it on my page. We was on live and somebody was like, y'all show too good, it's going to get canceled. So I was responding to what somebody said on the live. It was you, you, Mace, and Jim Jones grew up together, right? No. So basically I'm from the west side, Mace is from the west side, and me and Mace, we didn't Jones grew up together, right? No. No, I'm just kidding. So basically, I'm from the west side. Mace is from the west side.
Starting point is 02:02:49 And me and Mace, we didn't actually grow up together. We're from different blocks. We played basketball with each other. And then we went to high school together. So when we were about 14 years old, 15, we got cool. That's a long history, man. Yeah. And you know what's crazy? When you say grow up together, 14 from up is kind of growing up together.
Starting point is 02:03:03 But we kind of like adults at seven. So it's like you're seven years old. You got no other niggas. You outside and shit. So yeah, since high school, I've been cool with Mace. And what happened with Jim is Jim is from the east side. And my grandmother lived on the east side. So like on the weekends, you go see your grandmother.
Starting point is 02:03:20 Jim would go see his grandmother. So me and Jim knew each other. And we didn't really hang out. But we definitely knew each other. We would go play basketball grandmother so me and jim knew each other and we didn't really hang out but we definitely knew each other we were gonna play basketball on the rec and hang out and shit so we was cool with each other as well it's it's weird it's funny as a fan to watch hip-hop get older because it really is still to this day still a pretty new genre you know especially when you guys first started and you know either because people you know die or their career gets cut down or whatever,
Starting point is 02:03:46 you didn't really see many people make it to an older age. Right. So now to see you guys finding other avenues and other ways to do shit, it's like what – because when you're rapping and it's like you're talking to your party and your boys, all that shit, it's like what are you going to do when you're 40? What are you going to do when you're 50, 60? So to see certain people trying to do comedy, people doing acting, and even something like this,
Starting point is 02:04:09 it's, I mean, applying what you guys do in rap to something like this. The whole shit is this, but look, I'm just giving you an example. The streaming, bro, is still crazy because now you can stream and young niggas still not saying they ain't fucking with it, they fucking with it.
Starting point is 02:04:23 They still learning what's going on. Like Zion the other day was like, my favorite album ever is Ready to Die. Like what, Biggie? Zion? Whatever. But niggas could go back and listen to shit. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:04:34 So that's always there. Like all this shit is extra. You know what I'm saying? Like you said, when you can have fun and do whatever, it's cool. What I've always said, like right now I'm on tour. You know, shout out to Legend of the Street Tour. We do arenas. Me, Jadakiss, Young Jeezy, Rick Ross, 2 Chainz, Trina, anybody I'm forgetting, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 02:04:55 But the point is, it's all arena shows. So as you get older, your fans are getting older as well. And older, they get some money too, man. So they're getting older as well. Like nobody ever, you know, because it's rap, it's like, oh, they're doing an too, man. So they're getting older as well. Like nobody ever, you know, because it's rap, it's like,
Starting point is 02:05:06 oh, they're doing a reno, whatever. How old is Bruce Springsteen? 73. Is he on tour? He's going to be on tour? I know that cons tweet the other day.
Starting point is 02:05:14 Okay. 73, bro. You knew that off the bat. I'm not anti-Bruce. I'm just not that big a Bruce fan. The crazy shit that the question
Starting point is 02:05:23 was rhetorical, but okay. I just meant that he was old, dude. He was born on April 17th. I'm actually not from right now. No, but what I'm saying is he's still touring. Yeah, you can do this. Exactly.
Starting point is 02:05:41 I feel like now, you know, with the internet, you can still connect to everybody. You don't need to have a label who's pushing, you know, with the internet, you can still connect to everybody. You don't need to have a label who's pushing you. You know, all that shit. It's just like direct to fans. I feel like you and Dipset in general don't necessarily get the credit for – I feel like you guys influence the game a lot more than people might think.
Starting point is 02:06:01 Do you think – would you agree with that? Like, I mean, I think the mark you left on it and kind of how you changed it is not spoken about enough. I think that, like, our music is younger, but I think the generation that's, like, right under us, you know, because now it's a new generation, you've got to realize, like, even if it's Future or Drake, they're 38, 36 or whatever. So you got 19-year-olds now.
Starting point is 02:06:29 I think the 19-year-olds and 20-year-olds don't know. But as far as the Drakes, the J. Coles, the Futures and that generation, they show a lot of love. Like, Future got a song called Killer Cam. I just did another joint on J. Cole's album. We just performed with Drake. Like, that whole generation shows super-duper love. It's album. We just performed with Drake. That whole generation shows super duper love. It's just that they're older now and now you got the next generation
Starting point is 02:06:50 coming in. So the next generation it may be a generation gap from what we did. I feel you're very cool about that. I think other people would get, in any industry, other people would get worked up about young kids. I mean people do it every year. It's a common thing. I'm going to keep it 100 months. I'm'ma keep it 100 I'ma keep it 100
Starting point is 02:07:05 I hate old niggas man old niggas yo for real I hate old hating ass niggas on the next niggas people talk about it with basketball in particular
Starting point is 02:07:12 like the Hardwees like Warren you gotta let niggas you know even with music even with music they were like oh this rap is fucked up
Starting point is 02:07:20 and it's this that I can't fuck with it this rap and then I'm like look let them be 14 years old. You was 14 once. And your parents told you what you was listening to, at least for us, because they're like,
Starting point is 02:07:32 what is that rap shit that you listen to? How can you understand what they're saying when you're 13, 14 years old? It all sounds the same. Right. Exactly. So now, you know, people my age are a little younger or older as being like, oh, this mumble rap or this rap, this rapper. And I'm not saying some of it ain't crazy.
Starting point is 02:07:48 But you got to let the 14, 15, 16 through 25, 26, 27 enjoy their time. You was that age already. And I feel that certain people try to force what they did at that age on somebody. When I was 16, now you sound like your uncle. You know what I'm saying? In music do you realize like the power you have obviously when you're writing the song you don't i don't think at least but when you get like older and you get like i i grew up more of like a like a punk rock guy and and like blink-182 just performed at coachella and i was watching that and i was like holy shit i'm like 16 again. Like, this is crazy.
Starting point is 02:08:27 Do you see that in the crowd when you're doing the arenas and shit like that? You're like, oh, fuck, people are acting like they're kids again. Nah, absolutely, man. Like I said, I'm like Kobe, man. If it ain't going, I'm not doing it. You know what I'm saying? I'm not there to just be like, oh, man, whatever. It got to be, you know, people are excited to see us. People are singing along
Starting point is 02:08:45 people know the words so you know if i thought that uh that wasn't going on i wouldn't do the shows but that's exactly what's happening and i appreciate it like i was i was bopping around the apartment like fucking leg kicking like shit piss fuck cunt this was just whining well that i feel like versus was huge in that regard for for rap fans because it was like to get to go back down memory lane and i don't that's that's that's i love watching people who might not who are younger or not who don't know who watch a versus or they see the list out and they're like oh shit i didn't know they had this i forgot about this one i didn't know that you know absolutely everybody who's done those has fucking, you know, the hits that you know,
Starting point is 02:09:26 but then it's like, oh, it goes deep into the catalog. Absolutely. People got hits. Right. Yeah, and when you can go on tour with that, people are going to listen to that shit forever. It's timeless. Everyone versus the streams went up crazy for both of us.
Starting point is 02:09:38 You know, like the streams went up like 400-something percent after that. That was iconic, dude. Right. You guys in the locks in the garden i mean that was like as much new york as you can pack into one fucking building that was very dope um a couple questions i had about just in like the the track pull it yeah well what's the deal with that why was that it was like not on streaming for a while. On Spotify now, it's under Lost in the 90s. Whoever's sample it was, never cleared it. So that was never on your album?
Starting point is 02:10:12 No, it was never on the album. It was on the radio like crazy. It was like the biggest hit. Listen, leading up to the album, it was. We were through loops, everything, bells, whistles. We couldn't clear it, so we couldn't put it on the album. But it was still? Yeah. That's crazy. You couldn't put it on the album. But it was still... Yeah.
Starting point is 02:10:26 That's crazy. You could have put it on and just paid him $5,000 a day. Exactly. And also, to be clear, whoever's streaming that has nothing to do with me. I'd have nothing, but they'd be like, Cam, he's doing Pull It. No, I do not know where that record's at.
Starting point is 02:10:39 I mean, because I remember back when you could buy mixtapes and bootleg records and get music other ways, I always had that song. Then when the streaming era began and you can't even download shit anymore, you couldn't listen to it for the longest time. And that track to me was probably the first. That and 357 were the first ones that put me onto you. And I could never find that fucking song. Right, yeah. I don't know where it went so the other side of uh i feel like with the music was also some of the fashion statements that
Starting point is 02:11:12 were made with with you and dip set right the infamous picture of you in the pink with the the flip phone right something like that i mean you have a million chains and outfits whatever that outfit particularly like like, is timeless. No, I appreciate that. Did you ever, when you were wearing that day or taking that picture, is that even in your head? Or was it just another day? No, it was definitely, I believe, you know, it was Fashion Week. Okay, all right.
Starting point is 02:11:36 So at this time, like I said, it was pre-internet. So I'm like, I got to make page six, which was a big deal in the post. That's fucking hilarious. If you made page six in the post, you was lit. Because it was super, everybody, you know, it could have been fucking Larry David or Eddie Murphy or whoever, you know. So I was like, I got to make page six tomorrow. It's just fucking fashion week.
Starting point is 02:11:57 How can I stand out? And that was the whole motivation to be, because it was Kamora's joint, so I knew a lot of people was going to be there, because Baby Phat was super hot at the time. Baby Phat, wow. Right, so, you know, Russell Simmons and everybody, but at that time, everybody was going to be there, and I'm like, I don't know who the fuck could show up. What am I going to do to stand out?
Starting point is 02:12:16 And that was my idea. Dude, now, let me paint you a picture that may or may not have happened to me just yesterday. I'm walking through Union Square. I see, like, an old an old guy, 70s, 80s, real short little guy. He's got just a hat like this, like a dad hat on, khakis, and tucked into
Starting point is 02:12:34 his shirt. I knew I was... This got booked yesterday. I knew we were interviewing you, and I see this guy in just your big face blown up, tucked into his khakis. What would you think if you saw that in the street pause uh tuck me in nobody khakis hey but um listen honestly i see that shit all the time like and it's it's love like yo bro like
Starting point is 02:12:58 just you know like even when people dress up like dipshit on on Halloween, it's like fucking... Yo, all the American flag shit. Yo, I appreciate all that shit. So absolutely, I appreciate it. At the end of the day, I tell people all the time, for the last 25 years or so, however long I've been doing this, I never had to get up and sit in traffic to go to work. A couple times because I had to be somewhere. I don't have to listen to some boss
Starting point is 02:13:28 tell me what to do that I know I'm smarter than. That's probably the worst feeling ever. I'm glad I do that. I got to listen to you and I'm smarter than you? That's crazy. That's wild. So, if I got to take pictures or kiss
Starting point is 02:13:43 babies or say pop up to somewhere for a minute or two, then it's all love, my niggas, because I don't have to be here doing this. And sometimes, not even sometimes, but a lot of times, people are one and done. You do a song and you don't hear from them no more. So to be around this long is a blessing. We actually had a phrase that went viral. It's kind of came over the that it's actually the ultimate pause when you think about it saturdays are for the boys yeah but we we had this line of t-shirts that was um
Starting point is 02:14:11 we put up it was like classic duos from movies and tv and shit right and i was not sure at this point this was many years ago so i was not sure if our audience listened to your music or where they were at whatever so a lot of the shirts we had it was white people shit really right and um and i was like what if we did cam and and santana and it was like i don't know we'll see we'll see how the audience responds right and it fucking we should probably we have to cut you a check man for royalties it was our fastest seller yeah i was like, what the fuck are you doing? It was our fastest seller. Yo, you got that? And I remember being proud of my listeners and shit.
Starting point is 02:14:53 I was like, oh, okay. You guys fuck with this. Never in a million years would I think that. It was like our number one hit with that. I mean, that's another. That album cover and that art is fucking absolutely timeless. Thank you. I was doing some research earlier today, and I was just Googling some stuff Cam did,
Starting point is 02:15:11 and I want to know about the To Catch a Predator show. Right. Dude. That shit is hilarious. You would just belittle guys? You'd catch them and fucking make fun of them? Say something, what would you say to them? Nah, so they had that going on, and we was like, yo, make fun of him say something what would you say to him nah so you know
Starting point is 02:15:25 they had that going on and we was like yo you know cause that's one thing that we started you know all of us not just me
Starting point is 02:15:32 but it was Jim and especially Dame Dash as well like keep camera niggas with us all the time so we had a lot of camera men
Starting point is 02:15:39 with us and footage and so on and so forth I'm like yo what if we did this show for the hood and um we just run down on them cause like my man at the time shout out to Big Joe footage and so on and so forth. I'm like, yo, what if we did this show for the hood?
Starting point is 02:15:45 We just run down on them. My man at the time, shout out to Big Joe, that was my manager, my homeboy, my brother at the time. He's like fucking 6'6", real Dorsican guy. Fly guy too, but he could be scary too. I was like, yo, if me and Big Joe
Starting point is 02:16:01 just pop up on fucking Predators, it'll be worse than when Chris Hansen does it. Yeah, I know who I'd rather. The guy who plays her in a tournament. If shit really goes down, I at least have a chance over here. Exactly. So then he's like, yo.
Starting point is 02:16:24 And then we was like, yo, we're going to do this shit. And he's like, yo. And then I remember Def Jam hearing about it. And Def Jam was like, yo. And then we was like, yo, we're going to do this shit. And he was like, yo. And then I remember Def Jam hearing about it. And Def Jam was like, yo, guys. I was going to say. I'm sure the record execs were like, fucking no. Cut it out. Let's go make music. Yeah, they said, no, no, Cam.
Starting point is 02:16:37 We support everything. You cannot. This is illegal, first of all. This is a process that you have to go through. I think that's what makes work. It's not allowed. When you learn to get involved
Starting point is 02:16:46 you're like fuck this exactly exactly that's fucking we actually did we have like a sketch show here and we did something we did the reverse of that
Starting point is 02:16:54 fairly recently where we did a guy Chris Hansen shows up and there's just a fucking jack dude and Hansen's like I'm not talking to him
Starting point is 02:17:02 he can fuck the kid if he wants yeah yeah right that's crazy that was funny yo what do you think about
Starting point is 02:17:08 all this AI shit artificial intelligence shit with music you see like recently a couple songs quote unquote released
Starting point is 02:17:17 where it's like a Drake song cause it sounds exactly like him and the beat sounds like but it's all made by
Starting point is 02:17:23 I don't know what you're talking about so explain okay so with artificial intelligence guys can write a verse their own lyrics
Starting point is 02:17:31 but like in your style you know and then use voice fucking programs I don't know these guys know
Starting point is 02:17:39 better than me and it sounds like exactly like you and then put out a song you know yeah it's like I mean there was I've seen some on Instagram do that. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:17:46 It's like – I mean there was a song put out I think a couple weekends ago that people were – like thought it was a Drake song. It turns out not to be. Then Drake did put out a song that people were like, oh, I think that's AI because it sounds that good. Right. But it's just – it's going to happen a lot in music now and and you got to, like, I don't know. Where does that go? If someone was to make a new Cameron song that was a computer, what would you do? The thing about it is, what can you do?
Starting point is 02:18:15 You know, the Internet is wild cowboy, man. You know what I'm saying? It's lawless. I mean, you know, outside of, you know, fucking bestiality and molesting kids and raping and shit like that, you basically could do everything else on the Internet. The bestiality you could do. I've seen it. Oh, okay. Okay.
Starting point is 02:18:40 Pause. I ain't even paused. Let's do your thing It's a whole other level What y'all thinking For that Okay But
Starting point is 02:18:49 I don't know I don't know But He's like Get me the fuck out of here Talk to two weird white boys It was Things were going
Starting point is 02:18:57 And then it got weird It was actually earlier I was like 15 I didn't want to see it Someone showed it to me No but you're right You have to explain yourself You like what you like man You like what you like right but the answer to your question
Starting point is 02:19:08 do whatever the fuck you want the answer is it's lawless so it's about what is what can you do because you know a lot of times i tell people yeah you're arguing with this guy on the internet you'd be like where you at and he's in a basement in nigeria like You don't know where these people are at. You know what I'm saying? So you hide behind a page or a wall or anything. And if you can't, I know it's a thumbnail or a footprint or whatever that shows that you're tracking down. They could be in the library. By the time you catch them, they're gone or whatever. And that's only if it's something emergency,
Starting point is 02:19:41 not something, I'm not tracking them down for the song unless it becomes a big, big deal. Exactly. With the AI, and I am obviously a novice at very best in this field. But like with the AI, with the music, I'm always like, well, I compare it to, there was a while where like Apple didn't clear, or people didn't want their music on Apple. And so like, but the songs would still come on by impersonators. And I'd listen to it, and then they'd be like, oh, that's not them. And I'd be like, oh, then I don't care. i don't want to listen to it right you want to hear your
Starting point is 02:20:07 catalog it's not gonna be on your spot right i don't know you'll see it on twitter and someone will go it's not real and you go oh okay and you kind of what what if someone put some shit out though and you thought it was dope right i'd be like yeah you're like me i would make a joke out of it yeah i'm gonna say you seem like the of person to have fun with it rather than call your lawyers or whatever the fuck. Right, right. Have you written for a lot of people? I've written for a few people. You don't talk about it, though?
Starting point is 02:20:32 Some of them is under confidentiality, and you're not supposed to talk about it. Would those names surprise people, you think? Definitely. Yeah. Absolutely. I feel like people probably have some guesses out there of who it would be. The thing about it is, look, if you want another job, don't blow the smarts. Be smart about it.
Starting point is 02:20:52 Speaking of, though. We're not ever now, though, to, like, to me, people don't care like they used to about who wrote it. You know what I'm saying? I mean, now it's kind of like whatever. It's a reference track particularly after the Drake one yeah I mean once it was like
Starting point is 02:21:07 pretty obvious that like Drake uses it sometimes it was like well I don't know he's the biggest fucking artist in the world right now and you know
Starting point is 02:21:14 but back I mean in your era I feel like that's like your career's over you know what I mean you find out that
Starting point is 02:21:19 absolutely except in like weird you know like Jay writing still Dre for Dre was always kind of, like, allowed. You know what I mean? Like, certain instances it feels like.
Starting point is 02:21:29 I think Dr. Dre, Puff, even Baby to a certain extent, are entertainers more than rappers. You know what I'm saying? So people kind of give them that leverage. Yeah, like, it's not like they're trying to be the best rapper. They're not competing to, say, be a lyricist. Puff isn't trying to be a best lyricist. Dr. Dre is like, I'm a producer. You could tell whoever Dr. Dre's around writes for him.
Starting point is 02:21:54 You know, on the straight out of Compton, a few of them sound like Anderson Cooper. I mean, not Anderson Cooper. Anderson Cooper. Fucking Anderson Cooper. It does not sound like Anderson Cooper. Anderson Pack. You know not sound like Anderson Cooper. Anderson Pack. You know what I'm saying? So I think who he around and who he likes, that matters too.
Starting point is 02:22:12 But Dre's a great talent at finding talent. You know what I'm saying? So I don't think people care about Dr. Dre as much as they would care about if somebody wrote something for Jay-Z. Right. You know what I mean? Are you on good terms with Jay-Z these days? I know things were kind of tumultuous over the years, right?
Starting point is 02:22:28 He brought me out for his B-Sides concert. We spoke the day after. Haven't seen him since. As far as I know, yeah, last time we spoke, we're cool. Matter of fact, that's a lot. That's a lot. We was on a Zoom call about eight, nine months ago about something for the new mayor. Maybe a year ago.
Starting point is 02:22:46 So we was all on the Zoom, and we was calling the Zoom too. That's good. I feel like, you know, squashing any of that shit and just, you know, making money and taking it. Yeah, I mean, we're all loaded, and nobody really got hurt behind it. It's all music shit. I was always interested. I thought – I think there was A healthy Respect
Starting point is 02:23:05 Or like even fear For you When it came to that On that front I don't think Many people wanted to Fuck with you You know what I mean
Starting point is 02:23:11 Like There was some things said And Jay-Z Never really Took it On another level You know what I mean I feel like people were like
Starting point is 02:23:18 Just leave that is Like leave it alone Kill a cam for a reason right Yeah I mean I'm not saying Jay-Z Anybody else but I'll keep going I'm not gonna really-Z or anybody else, but I'll keep going. I'm not
Starting point is 02:23:27 going to really stop at that time. I'm not even talking about Jay-Z because different rappers, different beefs, different times, whatever. But I'm kind of funny too. And I couldn't incorporate that. It could be hard or it could be funny. Pause.
Starting point is 02:23:47 We fall in the funny side. You're to me it's both bro if you were to sit in on our show every day i think you'd have to say pause what a thousand times a show bro no no like i said i'm trying to calm down so i'm making do a little so are we gonna be co-workers or what you're bringing your shit to barstool uh we'll have a talk i gotta i gotta meet him like Barstool? We'll have a talk. I got a meeting. You got to get you ready for this meeting, man. Like I said, I mean, you guys have a great platform. We did big things with Wallow and Ghillie, man. The whole shit is, you just scared me, though.
Starting point is 02:24:15 You said they tell you not to say shit that you want to say. No. No, no, no. Oh, no, no, no. All right. No, bro. No, that's not top down. All right.
Starting point is 02:24:24 All right. Well, yeah, hopefully we'll see what happens, man. Bro, that's not top-down. All right, man. Well, yeah, hopefully we'll see what happens, man. Bro, let me text you. You can say whatever the fuck you want. It's up to you, man. Well, yeah, we're going to see what happens. Like I said, I wanted to come see you guys' show first before I go to the meeting and tell you guys good looking.
Starting point is 02:24:37 We appreciate you. I appreciate that. Before we let you go, I can't have one of the hottest sportscasters in the world sit here without asking him, how do you like the Boston Bruins chances? You know what's crazy?
Starting point is 02:24:51 I was watching First Take this morning and there's a black all-star up there who played hockey and I was like, yo, we had a black all-star. He played for the New Jersey Dumps. He's a big K-2 man, baby. I knew he had a few to play, but he's an all-star, too. I'm like, oh, shit.
Starting point is 02:25:08 I don't know, man. Just say they're going to win today. Yeah. The Bruins. The Bruins are going to win. It's going to help y'all? Yeah. What about the Devils?
Starting point is 02:25:17 I'm going to go to New Jersey. Oh, yeah, man! I got you with the tri-state, man. I can't go Boston like that. That was crazy. I'm going to go with the Devils. Stay safe. Devils, fuck it.
Starting point is 02:25:27 Are they in it? Devils are in it. Yeah, actually, this is the first time in like 25 years all New York sports teams are in it. So Rangers are in it. Islanders are in it. Devils are in it. Knicks are in it. Hold on.
Starting point is 02:25:35 Change that. I got to go with the Rangers, bro. You got Patrick Kane changing the world. I got to go with the Rangers. Let's do the order. The Rangers, the Islanders, then the Devils. Then the Devils. Are we going to get this Chalmers one-on-one or what?
Starting point is 02:25:48 We're going to see, man. Let's do you and Mace versus Pat Bev and Chalmers two-on-two. I don't know if Mace is ready to play. I'm not ready to play. You know what happened is. What did you say, like three months of training? I said ten that day, and then when you responded, I said, hold on, give me three months
Starting point is 02:26:05 because I know he's going to respond that fast. Were you surprised by that? Sorry to cut you off. I mean, not really. I know,
Starting point is 02:26:12 listen, and Mario Charles, he's super cool. That's like, you know, he's a good sport. You know, we DM and we're like,
Starting point is 02:26:18 let's really get this game closed. Totally. I asked you because it would be a fucking smash. Yeah, and like,
Starting point is 02:26:23 a few basketball players, I won't say their name, call me about that shit. And I'm like, yo, let's go get this bread and play each other because I'm really going to bust your ass. And he's like, yo, I'm telling you, I'm good. So my thing is this. I'm like, as much as, you know, and I put that up on a post and Gilbert Arenas made me think about it and say,
Starting point is 02:26:42 no, let me not try and play him quick. This is something where I need to take some time. Gilbert Arenas' comment was, y'all may say Mario Chalmers ain't shit in the NBA, but he's Michael Jordan to the real world. Do you remember Brian Scalabrini? Yeah. White dude playing for the Celtics?
Starting point is 02:26:58 Yeah. He went to a park in Boston, right? And he was like, because everyone was always like, making fun of him for being the white guy or whatever. He went to the park and he said, anybody can come get it. Come challenge me one-on-one. And obviously, nobody fucking scored on him. That's scat.
Starting point is 02:27:11 You know what I mean? People forget who these fucking guys are. They're there for a reason. He got the top 400 players in the world. In the world. Yeah. And he had like, it wasn't, you know, I don't think anyone who played any professional level showed up.
Starting point is 02:27:22 But he had like D1 kids showing up. Yeah. And no one was scoring. And still smoked them. One more question. I don't know how involved you were in, or if it was more Santana. I can't feel my face, that mixtape. Right.
Starting point is 02:27:34 Is that ever... That was all Jewel's... Nothing to do with that. I know the world would love to see that one. Absolutely. And did you really delete the whole verse on Oh Boy? Oh, Jay-Z? Yeah, the remix?
Starting point is 02:27:46 Yeah. You deleted it? Yeah. You crazy. You should have held on to that shit. Hey, man, nobody knew the internet was coming. You personally deleted it or someone else did that? I was sitting there with the engineer that knows how to push the buttons to delete it.
Starting point is 02:27:59 I'm not that technically savvy. And told him to delete it. I didn't know the internet was coming. That's it. Hey, I didn't know the internet was coming that's it man but bro you got i mean we we talked about all this other shit without even you know hey ma's a class like oh boy thank you i really mean it dipset anthem like you know hits and and classics for fucking days so it's wild that you have all of that, and then you got this whole new career in front of you, so. Thank you, man. I think you're gonna be, you got, you and
Starting point is 02:28:29 Mesa perfect for it. You guys gotta come to our show now. Yo. I'll be your hockey correspondent. Exactly. Imagine that. Now for our hockey breakdown from this fucking white guy. I would love that. I'm in. Let me record. We're in Miami. Oh, Miami, okay. That would be very funny. Now our hockey breakdown from this fucking white guy. I would love that. I'm in. I would love that. You guys record. Where in Miami?
Starting point is 02:28:45 Oh, Miami. Okay. That would be very funny. Now our hockey breakdown from this fucking white guy over here. Break it down real quick. Back to you, boys. I actually want to do that. Okay.
Starting point is 02:28:54 I'm 100% in. Like this week when the players come in and just give me a video and I'm going to throw it in. I'm psyched. Yes, dude. 100%. Hell yeah. That should be hilarious. That should be dope.
Starting point is 02:29:05 Done. This is a signed contract right here. Come here hot. Appreciate that. Thank you, man. Thank you so much. All right, bro. Go do this meeting and make sure we're coworkers.
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