KFC Radio - WATCHLIST: Icon Roles That Were Almost Played By Different Actors, Marvelous Mrs Maisel, Mayans, Mr. Inbetween

Episode Date: October 3, 2018

Will Smith was almost Neo from The Matrix, Tiffani Amber Thiessen was supposed to play Rachel Green in Friends, Jon Cryer was almost Chandler (Friends), Vince Vaughn was almost Joey (Friends), Paul Giamatti & Bob Odenkirk was almost Michael Scott (The Office), Patton Oswalt and Seth Rogen were almost Dwight Schrute (The Office), Michael Richards was almost Al Bundy (Married With Children), Ed Oneil was almost Sam Malone (Cheers), Craig T Nelson was almost Jay Pritchett (Modern Family), Ray Liotta was almost Tony Soprano (The Sopranos), John Cusack & Matthew Broderick were almost Walter White (Breaking Bad), John Lithgow was almost Fraiser (Cheers, Fraiser), Katie Holmes was almost Buffy (the Vampire Slayer), Alec Baldwin was supposed to be Mr Big (Sex in The City), and you will not believe who was supposed to be Scully from X-FilesYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/kfcr

Hey, KFC Radio listeners, you can find every episode of KFC Radio on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. It's another edition of Watch List Wednesday. We're breaking down all things in the television world, breaking down your favorite shows, talking about the TV and entertainment news of the week. And my man Clem put up a blog earlier yesterday that blew my mind and it's one of the internet's favorite running tropes the old this actor almost played people's favorite thing

in the world it's mostly with movies you know you hear that Will Smith passed on Neo from the Matrix he thought it was too weird I thought it was the opposite I thought Keanu passed on being Will Smith's character in Independence Day maybe that both happened? I know that... That's bananas if both those things

happened. Let's look it up because I know that Will Smith passed on the Matrix because I know he was like yeah, I'm in some alternate universe where your brains are plugged in. No thanks, dude. By the way, huge shout out to Keanu Reeves. Keanu Reeves, he got a piece of that. He negotiated a fraction of

all the merch and all the that yeah and then he gave it all away because he had that horrific tragedy with his family like his his keanu reeves has lived one of the worst lives ever like john wick like should be like he should go john wick in real life and just like take out all his anger and frustration and he lost like a miscarriage they lost their daughter after she was born i forget what it was and then his wife died like months later or it wasn't a wife it was a long time girlfriend

who you have children with and then there was someone I thought he lost like his whole family yeah there was there was definitely another death

and then he just decided fuck it and just he has enough money and just gives all like movies he does he just gives the whole kept check

I honestly I mean maybe you know everyone copes in their own way and maybe he like acts to escape and stuff like that but to be like entertaining after that i always think about like if i had horrific tragedy in my life would i be able to just come in here and still like host a radio show and shit i think i think i'd probably just kill myself shout out to keanu for still doing it um i don't i don't know if if will smith passed on i know it was mills with us on the matrix i don't know if Will Smith passed on I know Will Smith passed on the Matrix I don't know if it was vice versa that would be like some JFK Lincoln shit maybe I was just shot in a theater

by a guy named Lincoln and killed by a Kennedy and you know what I'm talking about no you don't know all the similarities between Kennedy and Lincoln no you know them come on what are they they're like like like JFK's like assistant was named Lincoln and Lincoln's assistant was named Kennedy or shit like that.

They all have these quirky things like he was killed in a theater. Look them up. I can't believe you don't know these. I figured these were like right off the top of your head. These are some nerd shit that like I feel like probably half of them are like now made up because once you know about these this like running kind of conspiracy theory, almost anything you say about Kennedy and Lincoln could be believed. I'm actually just trying to fill your hair as he continues to Google it. I don't know why I say it so long. Numerous

coincidences. Lincoln and Kennedy. Abraham Lincoln was elected to Congress in 1846. John Kennedy elected in 1946. Elected... The name is... Seven letters. I'm not that impressed yet. elected the name is seven letters I'm not that impressed yet

they were both shot in the head fact okay this is what you're talking about Lincoln's secretary Kennedy warned him not to go to the theater Kennedy's secretary Lincoln warned him not to go to Dallas that's pretty fucking wild even if that's it that's pretty wild yeah that's pretty weird

that's it that's the only thing that impresses me. I mean, getting shot in the head ain't too impressive. A lot of people do that. Both successors were named Johnson. Weird. Weird. John Wilkes Booth was born in 1839. Lee Harvey Oswald was born in 1939.

Both were elected in 46. Both of their assassinations were born in 39. Both assassins were known by three names. Both assassins were comprised of 15 letters. Oh, this is the other weird one. Booth ran from a theater and was caught in a warehouse. Oswald ran from a warehouse and was caught in a theater. Weird.

Okay. Yeah, that's weird. There's some weird shit there. I'll give it to you. Weird. There. There. Approved.

Conspiracy approved by me. So today, the one that Clem blogged was that Tiffany Amber Thiessen, a.k.a. Kelly Kapowski, all by the life of Lettuce Theisen. Theisen. He kept saying Theisen, like Joe Theismann. We were talking about, not Theismann, Theisen. Theisen. Yeah.

And this morning, me and Kevin were kind of talking from a couple of desks away, and I kept, every time I brought it up, brought her name up, I'd say Tiffany Amber Theisen, and he'd go, Thiessen. And I thought he was going, Thiessen. Like, yeah, she's pretty hot. And so I said it five times. I just kept going Theisen. And he goes, Deisen.

And I was like, yeah. I was like, Deisen. Tiffany Amber Theisen. I can't be like, yeah, dude, I get it. She's attractive. I know. And I'm sitting there going, why do you keep saying it wrong? So Tiffany Amber Theisen was supposed to play Rachel Green in Friends uh which is I think they made the

right choice going with uh with Jennifer Aniston because I don't know if you really remember but like Kelly Kapowski was like a heartthrob but then after that Tiffany Amortheason was just like a bomb she was in that dumb show on Fox uh it was like Fastlane or some shit. Remember that? She was just like a hot ass bitch and she was doing 90210. She just became like a total like sex minx, which I don't think would have jived with friends. I think the biggest problem

there would have been two brunettes. Can't have Courtney Cox and Rachel be a brunette. They were like because it was always are you a Rachel girl, a Rachel guy or a Courtney Cox guy. All, true. They were like, because it was always, are you a Rachel guy or a... Courtney Cox guy. All the way. Through and through.

That is so cool. Through and through. It's not even close. But it's like, you're right, it's not even close in the other direction. No, no, no.

And it's you and Keith both think that and so you gang up on me and you think that you're right because of it and I guarantee you are in the vast minority. Oh, no doubt.

I'm in the vast minority in almost everything I do aside from skin color. Like everything about my life, my opinions, everything. Minority. I'm in the vast minority. Almost everything I do aside from skin color. Everything about my life, my opinions, everything. Minority. I'm minority. But the – Actually, skin color, I'm minority too.

Just not here. Just not in this country. No, no. You're not the minority. White people are not the minority. In the world? Oh, well, I mean, I don't know. Yeah, in the whole world.

I don't know. Listen. I don't know the numbers. We got a billion Asians, man. I don't know. Yeah, in the whole world. I don't know. Listen, I don't know the numbers. We got a billion Asians, man. I don't know. Asians and Indians definitely top out. But I'm saying, I don't know if we can play the white people aren't. White people are.

No, no, no. We are not going to play the white people are minority cards. No, no, no. I'm certainly not genuinely doing that. But the. But yeah, everything I do, I know I'm up against. Yeah, you guys are always like, yeah. I'll give it to Jennifer Aniston now. Again, it's do, I know I'm up against it. You guys are always like, yeah, Monica.

I'll give it to Jennifer Aniston now. Aniston now, I think, has it. Aniston forever and always. But Cox back in the day. I mean, it's just like, you're wrong. I know this is a matter of opinion, but Frog is wrong. It's just not. What is wrong?

In Seinfeld, Costanza, once he's interviewing a kid for one of his fake jobs, and he's like, what's your favorite animal? And he's like, frog. Frog is wrong. That's great. That's a great line. I don't remember that line, but that's amazing. So I always just say, frog is wrong. It might be a matter of opinion in your mind, but it's not. Jennifer Aniston has always been

and will always be hotter than Monica, Rachel Courtney Cox. But I think it was a good move playing, making her Rachel, because Rachel was like hot, but not like like I said, Courtney Cox. But I think it was a good move playing, making her Rachel, because Rachel was like hot, but not like like I said, sex bomb. She was Lizzie McGuire. Yeah, she was, well, I mean, I think that's a little bit of slander for Rachel Green.

I think Rachel Green is on a higher level. Well, Lizzie McGuire was specifically chosen because she was kind of a dull looking girl. Right. And then immediately, as soon as she got the role, turned into like every 13-year-old boy had a huge crush on her. Right, right. And Disney was like, what the fuck? She wasn't supposed to be sexualized.

Boobs! Wanna fuck it! Wanna fuck it! I'll stick my dick in that. I don't care what your plans were, Disney Channel. I'm gonna fuck it. Blonde hair, boobs, in. Honestly, that's a gross miscalculation by the Disney Channel because at that age age, you want to fuck anything.

Yeah. Let alone, like, any sort of attractive female. I've said- I'll fuck that chair. I'll go roan on that thing over there. There are two scenes in my life that I would just pause and stare at the TV. One was, there's a scene where Hilary Duff is walking around the fountain in the Lizzie McGuire movie.

This is what dreams are made of. And then there's another one in Austin Powers. walking around the fountain in the Lizzie McGuire movie. This is what dreams are made of. And then there's another one in Austin Powers. I think the first one, when he's in the hot tub. A lot of vagina. And the chick, is that her name? And the chick goes over and the boost. The nipple pops up. I've done that too.

Like you paused it, right? The pause is so bad, yeah. I've done that like on sleepovers and shit with my friends. Like I'm pretty sure you could see a nipple in Austin Powers. I remember one time I went to visit my aunt. Because those things are so fake they were floating

yeah that girl couldn't drown herself if she wanted to like yeah I know human instinct always pulls you up anyway

but those moves just for days right the um I remember one time I was staying in my aunt's house

in Philadelphia and I rented that movie I rented that in Speed watched Speed and she came out I remember she came out and she paused the TV before she went to bed. When Keanu was pulling himself onto the bus, she went, whoa, buff. And then I was like, well, you can just pause stuff.

And she went to bed. I was watching Austin Powers. Three in the morning, I just had a TV on pause. I was just staring. I was just sitting on the couch eating popcorn. There's an apple. There's an apple. It was just a little areola pop over the bubbles.

I remember that vividly. That's so funny that we all did the same thing. Like, you know, hundreds of miles apart, different cities, different, didn't know each other. We're all looking at a lot of vaginas, nipples. That's great stuff. Austin Powers, by the way, do you remember, Brent? I don't know.

You might've been too old for this. Maybe you were, I don't know how old you are. We had that one screen theater in Pelham. It was just like one movie. Pelham Picture House. Picture House. And they played Austin Powers, maybe one, two, or three. I'm not sure which part it was, for like all summer.

And we went like every night. Like there was nothing else to do. Like I went to, I saw, I can't believe, I can't remember which Austin Powers it was now because they all blend together. I mean, I probably saw, let's say there's like 15 weekends in the summer. I probably saw it like 28 times. I thought it was.

We just like kept going. It was just like, there's nothing else to do. We'll just walk to the picture house. I thought it was for more than just the summer, right? I feel like it was like a year straight. Yeah. It was wild. Austin Powers.

They were like, these asshole teenagers keep coming. So we keep cashing checks. I forget which Austin Powers it is with Fat Bastard. I think it's the second. Yeah. That was the hardest I've ever heard of theater laugh when i was in there that yo awesome powers it was big it was a packed theater it was opening night i was with a couple friends and like their parents because i was still pretty young and it was i mean people the entire crowd was in it's so funny because i don't know if you know you evolve or

your humor changes the internet internet makes your standard tired. But if I went and saw a movie now with a guy who was just clearly in a fat suit and was like, get in my belly, I think I'd be like, all right. But at the time, I was like, I couldn't breathe. Austin Powers, when they did Beyonce and shit, it got stupid. I think that was four, right? Goldfinger? I don't know. Three or four, whatever. One and two. They were very funny.

The idea was the spoof was great no matter what. Those childhood moments. Lots of vagina. What a broad. Anyway, back to the actresses and actors that almost were. There's a lot of other ones.

There's a couple other ones from Friends that I think would have been big. So the dude from Two and a Half Men, not Charlie Sheen. John Cryer. John Cryer also was almost Chandler, which is wild because you think that he was like, fuck, I missed out on being Chandler. But it's like, well, nope, you ended up getting the job in two and a half minutes anyway, which is probably better.

Definitely better. You were like a co-star rather than a part of an ensemble cast. No, no, no, no, no. Oh, right, that billion dollar shit, right, right. That's what I felt so bad for, activity and rethesing right then. Imagine having that.

It's one thing to just miss up on an iconic role that would have got you, I don't know, back then probably, what, 70? I think you said they made a million dollars an episode? Yep. Right, so they were the first to hit that. It's one thing to just miss up on an iconic role that would have got you, I don't know, back then, probably, what, 70? I think you said they made a million dollars an episode? Yep. Right? So they were the first to hit that. So yeah, you made a couple bucks there.

It's an iconic role. Everyone remembers you. That'd be nice to have. 20 million bucks a year today. Right. That's some real kick yourself in the vagina shit. You know who else missed out on that too big then is Vince Vaughn, who's supposed to be Joey.

Oh. So that would have been, I don't think that would have worked. He's too big. Yeah. So he's just too big to be the goof. That little guinea guy. Right, because if you were... When Joey did something stupid, rather than just being like, shut up, you little guinea, he'd be like, I'm going to beat you up. I'm fucking 6'6".

Fuck you, Chandler. Fuck you, Ross. You little bitch. I didn't know that one. That's a good one. Now, and also, you never know how much these mean. you interview you know you read for it once or was it like where you offered the role and turned it down the office has a thousand of them because i guess everybody the thing about the office is people knew it was gonna be a big deal because they're like this already been done yeah this is a hit so we know it's gonna be a monster over here so you probably call your agent and you're like i gotta get on that fucking show so uh the the role of michael scott obviously was you know the most coveted paul giamatti

and bob odin kirk are the two that everybody always cites i can't see giamatti doing it no i love giamatti but like and maybe this is just you know he is michael scott now steve carell and but no but i could like watching these auditions went viral probably a couple years ago and odin kirk watching odin kirk i was like he could have done he could have done he did he came back you know so it's like i wonder that would that that's a big man of bob odin kirk and i guess he's very successful in the rest of his life but to come back and not not step to step on the ad set and not have the feeling of like fuck this should have all been mine to be able to just still play with it as good. It's cool.

Giamatti is a great actor, but I don't think he could do, like, the dummy. Yeah. I always think of him as very, like, smart, you know, and his role in Billions. And every time I see him, he's like the, you know, you rely on him. He's like the hero or whatever. Yeah, at worst, the pest.

But Michael Scott wasn't really a pest. Oh, I thought you meant the movie The Pest. No, no, no. Paul Giamatti in The Pest? No, no, no, no, no. At worst, he's kind of just like the yeah like he's right jewish wasn't me he has a very jewish sensibility to him where he is i i don't know i i guess i just always well that's a compliment he's powerful he. He's powerful. He doesn't want to do. She doesn't want to do. He's that's Jewish, man. He's not drinking fucking Merlot.

That's like, that's some shit a Jewish guy would do. Like, yeah, all right, fine. I'll go, but I'm not fucking like Keith.

That's me. Every single time we go for drinks. It's such a great life. Every time we go for drinks, he's like, I'm not drinking a fucking rye. I'm not drinking a bourbon. All right,

man. Fine. Drink whatever the fuck you want. Good shit. Dwight was obviously a hot character as well Patton Oswalt Seth Rogen I was trying to think

Rogen's too much of like a funny guy like he's too much of an intentionally funny guy Dwight Schrute is technically unintentionally funny see I can see other people doing Steve Carell because a lot of it is acting not much of it has to do with what steve carell's a fucking good looking guy well he got good looking uh i mean yeah he was kind

of bald but he's you know he was handsome enough no matter what yeah he got his hair i mean very clearly got plugged up yeah but the yeah and he got a little bit better shape like michael scott fun run that's an athlete yeah like he's like big yeah that's weird um and uh but the so much of what dwight's character relies on dwight's very very good actor and all that you know uh rain wilson but so much of his character relies on his looks yeah just the hair the glasses the the no chin the close eyes every like everything about him his face is. And other actors could have done what he did acting-wise, but I can't picture anyone else being... Pat Oswalt actually kind of had a role like that

in Dwight-esque in Parks and Rec, where he is a nerd, and him and Leslie Knope live on a farm for a couple of days and Pat and like churns butter and has fun. He very much. So I guess true. Yeah. But Seth Rogen and Seth Rogen in that interview picture or interview on a clip looks very normal. He's got a shaved head.

He doesn't have the beard or anything like that. You need the physical comedy. Yeah. He can't do it. The all time physical comedy guy in the sitcom world, Kramer, Michael Richards, he almost was Al Bundy. What? Yeah. So obviously that's predating Seinfeld.

So he was still like a nobody at that point. Al Bundy? And he's been a nobody since because he went on that crazy rant. Yo, that was bad at the time. Imagine now. Oh, canceled. You're inwards! You're inwards! You're inwards! You're inwards! It's like, whoa, dude, that was super

hateful. That was so weird. It was like Grand Wizards who were like, damn, dude, you're racist. When they redid that with Curb, he was yelling it at J.B. Smooveove and he's like, I wish there was a word I could call you right now. It's like, Jesus. Yeah, that was

wild. That was crazy to kind of reprise it all. Yeah, so Kramer was supposed to be Al Bundy. That doesn't make any sense at all. And Al Bundy at O'Neal was supposed to be Sam Malone. Oh, wait, I was thinking Al Borland. Okay, Al Bundy. No, no. Okay, okay. I was like, how the fuck does he know that? Yeah, that would be, how the fuck is he going to do that?

Yeah, that would not work at all. But I know Neil, who played Al Bundy, was supposed to be Sam Malone, which is another one, much like the John Cryer. Like, you miss out on Al Bundy back in the day. That's a big deal. Or you miss out on Sam Malone. That's still, like, the biggest deal. Cheers for a while was regarded as, like, the funniest, best show ever.

Yeah, it's still the number one, right? But to then land Al Bundy, not a bad consolation prize. And then land his modern family. What's his name? I forget. His modern family? Jay. Jay. Jay Pritchett. Who was supposed to be Craig T. Nelson. Oh. Coach.

And what he did. Who also, and he ended up, he got parenthood. So everybody ended up Everybody wins The common theme here Is that everybody in Hollywood Is like well if I didn't get this I'll call my agent And we'll get this over here

Who was it telling us Talking about that with us recently About how Eddie Murphy only got Like 400k for whatever And then But then Dr. Doodle Took care of him

I think Neil Brennan Was it Neil Brennan Yeah The entertainment world It evens itself out You get there the weirdest thing about Kramer is that

like Michael Richards was actually like the stickler for the scenes yes like he wasn't really like he hated the like bloopers and shit

like when they like not bloopers but like when you outtakes outtakes when you like fuck around with the people like he would be like

get your line right fucking like cut it out like fall in love you can see it in some of the bloopers where he I mean maybe it's just because he can hold it together well jerry was very crack jerry is very much like jimmy uh jimmy fallon like he he's laughing all the time on set and there was i remember we've watched the same exact thing where where kramer was like he said

he would be like staring at you like get your line right get your line right come on focus focus focus you can do this like you know not not an outtake, but just like, you know, when you see Frankestan's had it the most where he would just Del Boca Vista. He kept saying, like, Bel Doca Vista. He kept getting it wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. And Kramer was like, come on, come on, come on. Get it right. Get it right. Get it right.

Which is funny because you think he was like this, you know, he's the goof of it all. And it turns out it's like, no, he was a pretty like pretty serious, hateful person. Yeah, he takes comedy super seriously. If you interrupt him during it, he goes goes nuts he wants to enslave you the clearest one about that is uh of jerry stuff is uh bookman when bookman is yelling oh yeah they must have done it a hundred times they were like he's not gonna stop laughing every single time bookman jerry's just like trying to cover his mouth and then like look away. Yeah. It's just like he's laughing a hundred times. Funny little aside, personal anecdote.

When I lived in Hoboken, I lived in a three-bedroom apartment with my buddies. And we had the first floor. And it was a basement. And there was a guy who just lived in the basement. They rented it out as an apartment. It was just a goddamn basement. It was like underground, no windows. He just lived subterranean.

And he was definitely a little off. And every now and then, my bedroom was like directly like under his, I guess, like living room or wherever he was. Yeah. You know, wherever he was the most, whether it was his bedroom or living room, he was always there. And he would just always go, My books!

My fucking books! Just screaming like Tourette's style, so we always just called him Bookman. I think I was going to say it was actually him. Well, I was ready to have my heart broken. Oh, no, no, no. That actor lived in my basement. But he was the Bookman.

We would always do the thing to each other. Like screaming. That was the scariest. I had to move out of there. I was like, that guy's going to kill me one day. Some of the other all-time almost were, almost was, Ray Liotta, Tony Soprano. I could see that. Absolutely.

I mean, I feel like there was probably a time where they were really upset that they landed, they had to settle on James Gandolfini. That was probably a settle. That was probably Ray Liotta was like, ah, wait a minute, I just got an offer to do a movie. I'm out. And they go with James Gandolfini. That was probably a settle. That was probably Ray Liotta was like, ah, wait a minute, I just got an offer to do a movie. I'm out. And they go with James Gandolfini.

In the long run, it probably ends up much better because I feel like that would have been taken away from it a little bit. Started with a star. Yeah, it's like, oh, that's the guy from Goodfellas. That's one of those things that's so hit or miss where you kind of feel like you need a star to kick it off right, but then once it works without one, it's even better. Yes, exactly. It's like you hope that you to kick it off right, but then once it works without one, it's even better. Yes, exactly.

It's like you hope that you can get that, but you might not. Same thing with Bryan Cranston. That was Matthew Broderick and John Cusack both interviewed for that. For? For Bryan Cranston. For Walter White. Walter White? Yeah.

It's so hard to picture someone else. But what's funny, the original thing with Bryan Cranston was the dad from Malcolm in the Middle. So the's funny, you know, like the, you know, the original thing with Bryan Cranston was the dad from Malcolm in the Middle. So, you know, the same way Ferris Bueller

or I don't even know what the fuck John Cusack did. One of my favorite ones is, you know what one of the most hated cast things

ever was? Heath Ledger Joker. Yeah. People trashed that. He was the 10 things I hate about you guys. the Knight's Tale. Yeah,

the Knight's Tale's so bad. This guy's gonna be like the most like, because at that time the Joker wasn't overdone. Right. Right? It was, the Knight's Tale is so bad. This guy is going to be the most. Because at that time, the Joker wasn't overdone. Right. Right? Now, there's a new Joker movie coming out every week. Right.

At that point, it was just Jack Nicholson. It was like, you're going to reprise this role. And then he did it so well, it killed him. So fuck you, internet. Did not. Common misconception. It was the Wonder Emporium of Mr. McGorium whatever it is Mr. McGorium's Wonder Emporium

that was the one he was working on when he died but I mean there's still the idea that the Joker sent them off the edge don't ruin this for me don't fucking Kobe Matt Barnes this for me the Joker killed I think that's one of those things he had problems anyway no doubt

it was the copious amount of drugs he was on but have you seen Mr. McGruder's Wonder Emporium no you need fucking drugs to do that one but well really

Jack Nicholson threw fuel on the fire that one time he says like oh yeah it was like a TMZ moment he was going to the club and he was like

oh yeah that roll will do it to you as you like went in the door I was like wait what what did you say Jack he said something like I warned him

yeah yeah like I told him that roll can you know I was like well that was fucked up something like, I warned him. Yeah, yeah. Like, I told him that role can, you know, I was like, well, that was fucked up. But he probably just warned him about drugs. Right. It's nothing to do with his acting, guys. We're actors. We pretend to be people all the time.

I'm trying to figure out what the, who are the other people who ended up filling in for that? Oh, the Imaginarium of Dr. Parnassus. That was the one. That sounds fucked. He killed himself during filming. And who ended up... I forget. What was the rest of the cast? Yikes. He just straight up killed himself?

Not killed himself, but overdosed. I think it was a suicide, wasn't it? He took a lot of pills, but I think it was a suicide. But it was... I know one was... The actors had to fill a role. So a bunch of actors volunteered to do it. It was like Colin Farrell was one.

Um, I forget who else there was, but they all donated their salaries to his daughter for it. That's cool. They all did it for free. How about when Brandon Lee died on the set of The Crow? And didn't like Bruce Lee die on the set too? Like, didn't they die the same way? Shout out to Lincoln and Kennedy.

I thought Bruce Lee was drugs. Brandon Lee got shot. It was supposed to be a fake gun. It was a real gun, right? What? Something like that. It had a prop. I think it was a prop bullet.

I don't think it was a real gun. But there was something wrong with the gun that a projectile actually shot out. So imagine that. On the set of The Crow? Yeah. I've never seen The Crow because it looks scary. It's a great movie. Well, imagine that. On the set of The Crow? Yeah. I didn't. I've never seen The Crow because it looks scary. It is. It's a great movie.

And The Crow, it's about a guy who's dead but comes back, right? So it's like, this is really creepy. If that happened today. Imagine that. Imagine if I was just like, all right, three, two, one, action, pow. And then I was like, all right, come on, John, get up, dude. Get up. Oh, no, he's fucking dead.

He's spurting after me. Yeah. If that happened today, the goddamn internet, because we're such fucking assholes, I'd be like, he's faking it, it's his marketing, bullshit, bullshit. He's dead, guys.

They'd have an open casket as they lowered it into the ground. Not real. He's going to come out. He'll be there at the premiere. He'll be there at the premiere. A couple others here

before we move on to all the other shows. John Lithgow was supposed to be Frasier. Again, ended up alright getting that third rock from the sun shit. Katie Holmes was supposed

to be Buffy. Buffy has to be blonde. I don't know if she was going gonna dye her hair or if they were gonna try to change i don't know i think i'd like a brunette vampire slayer well you know we can't i would like to be pimps from oaklander it's not halloween john i've never seen buffy uh alec you never seen any of it because it was a movie i used to watch the movie all the time and then they made the TV first. Yeah. I'm sure as a kid I probably stumbled upon it. Sometimes in college when I was watching, like,

house episodes at noon, I think Charmed would follow it. Yeah, Charmed had a bunch of smokes on it. So I've probably fallen asleep and gotten some through osmosis. But no, that's pretty vicious. I fucked with the movie hard. Luke Perry was in it, I think, and the blonde was super hot.

I remember being like, this chick is so sexy. And then the TV show was for chicks. Movie's cool. TV show. Bad bitch. That was like Austin Powers. I think we just rented that and kept it for the whole summer. So we just watched it over and over again.

The late charges on that one through the roof. Alec Baldwin was supposed to be Mr. Big. Shout out to all the girls who watched Sex and the City. Oh, I like that. I would have liked Alec them as big. They look like the same fucking person. The one I always heard of was how Michael Keaton was supposed to be Jack from Lost.

They were going to go like big budget, like let's get an actor in here because Jack was supposed to die in the first episode. So it was supposed to be like Michael Keaton. He's the star of the show. Whack! We kill him. And they ended up like they thought that the role of Jack was too important. So they ended up getting Matthew Fox and and landing a role so that was previously my favorite did you know who used to play blah blah until i read doing research for this the x-files scully

pamela anderson what imagine molder and imagine molder like, the truth is out there. And Scully's just bouncing around with her tits. Like, well, let's go get the aliens. That is so fucking ridiculous. That's some casting director saying like, yeah, come on in. Let's talk. She literally read from a fucking book, like looking at the words on the paper.

And they were like, thanks for coming in, Pam. Like the Baywatch says down the hall. Go bounce those titties in the lifeguard stand thanks that's a totally all of these things you're kind of like and maybe they can do it it might feel weird this is a totally different show you're describing different it's aliens and tits it becomes like a fucking like a porn basically like much like baywatch it becomes there it's a you have b plots around breasts that's really what it was we have a slow-mo running scene and then i don't know i guess a guy stole something from the surf shop and then uh hassle not hassle back hassle hoff is chasing him on an atv and then like but pamela henderson she's gonna be in the scene but then

tits god bless baywatch all right let's keep it moving. Let us know if you have any of the other, you know, almost were acting moments. A lot of fun stuff there. Yeah, that was, people love that shit.

It's going to be huge. It's going to be great for social. People love those sort of things. As much as they love talking about receipts on the internet, you know, somebody left a tip.

It was big. It was small. They fucking love that shit. People are going to go wild for this one. Breaking down some of the shows that we're still watching here. I think we owe an apology. Or you say so.

I have not watched this yet. We slandered this show. And it sounds like John is going to take that back. I'm definitely going to take it back. Marvelous Mrs. Maisel. Granted, wait, by the way, we did hedge. We did say this is probably fucking fine.

It's probably funny, but it's just not always sunny. Here's who it's not. It's a very good show. It's, I wouldn't call it a comedy. It's a funny show that has a lot of serious topics, not serious, but there's divorce,

there's women's rights and stuff like that. But it's very, very funny. The funny stuff is super hilarious. It's just not the main, I think to be a comedy, the main goal and almost the sole goal is to make you laugh.

Yeah. This is a show where it's telling a story and it has some funny parts. Always sunny. There's no story being told. It's just funny. Yes. And it has social commentary in it, but it's funny. Right.

And whatever they do. It's all just a mechanism to make you laugh. Yeah. Every scene is funny and at least attempting to be. This is plenty of serious stuff. So I don't know if I'd put it as a comedy but i'm not even really gonna apologize because i don't think i owe an apology i think the marketing team of marvelous should apologize to you owes us an apology because this shit looks like some mary poppins stupid bullshit that i have no interest it looks foreign to me is

it is it it's just old or foreign no just old it looks like it's in England. I'm already out on that. I want to think it's like 1950s New York. Right, right. Okay. You gotta present this much better. The trailers of the show don't have funny parts in it. I watched season one all in a

half, give or take. I probably started Friday night, finished it Saturday afternoon before the football game started in the middle of the football games. Fuck you, John. That's the best, man. I have a great life. But then once I finished season one, season two's not out yet. But the trailer is.

So I watched the trailer for season two. And I was like, I don't want to watch that. This is not the show. Yeah. You know what? It's totally different. I could see the marketing team sitting there going, no, idiot. We're trying to weed out morons like you.

We don't want you people. That's not what marketing team sitting there going, no, idiot. We're trying to weed out morons like you. We don't want you, people. That's not what marketing is? We want a certain audience. We want a certain perception. I don't give a fuck who you are. I want you to buy my t-shirts I sell. No, no. You know what? They won an Emmy because of that. Because it's probably not like, they probably kept it exclusive

and artsy and a different feel for a different part of the community. But it's not artsy. To a different to the critics and to the voters and all that exclusive and artsy and a different feel for a different part of the community. But it's not artsy. To a different. That's just the trailer. The show itself isn't. And to the critics and to the voters and all that shit. But they don't vote on trailers. They vote on the show. The show isn't.

But when you keep that show, like, feeling exclusive and, like, different from your average comedy is when you get, like, the perception of being this, like, fancy shit. No. I bet you they're doing that on purpose. No. I don't think they're doing that. I bet you. No. I genuinely think that. You don't make a show look bad on purpose. I don't think they make it look bad. I think they they're doing that on purpose. No. I don't think so. I bet you, no, I genuinely think that.

You don't make a show look bad on purpose. I don't think they make it look bad. I think they make it look, It does look bad. I think it looks, That's why we both agree, we didn't watch it. To us,

I'm saying they're not going for us. To the people who, who are watching TV, We are TV critics, voting for the Emmys. Yeah. For the critics who are voting on Emmys, they probably watch a funny trailer

and think lesser of a show. But I don't even know how many trailers those people watch. They get fucking the screens before trailers even come out. Yeah, but you know what I'm saying? The whole vibe around the show, that this is intelligent or funny. Yeah, I guess so.

Modern Family won on like a four-year run. Which is just, again, why the Emmys all of it. I think that artsy stuff, I think that's more prevalent in the the oscars i don't think tv tv has a lot of big bang theory won a lot uh modern family won a lot um there's another one i think two and a half man has some tv is very mainstream and maybe that's changing with netflix and streaming and stuff like that but the emmys themselves have been pretty mainstream for a while. I don't think... The artsy shit, that's movies.

Did Sons of Anarchy ever win an Emmy? Should've won all of them. No. Should've won... Should've been a clean sweep eight seasons in a row for Sons of Anarchy. Jack Teller should've won absolutely everything. I've been watching Mayans. I think I started watching the sixth season. Yeah, I caught up late.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've stuck with Mayans. I'm four four episodes in it's good yeah it is it's like exactly i mean you know it's not you're missing jack steller it's not sam crow it's the mayan uh club but it's like very logical it's like there's the club there's the cartel there's like this guy and like he's married to this girl who has a connection to this guy he's he's like a snitch for the cops so he's a good guy but a bad guy and like he's in with the club but he's in with the car it's good but it's like it's very it's just a logical like you know motorcycle club fucking storyline here the i think i just didn't have much interest in the minds i

think i would have watched this and i will start because I was on the fence. You have sold me. Even you being like, you said snitch to the console. Yeah, like there's a guy who's playing like both sides. And they do like a good job of, you know, the main lion guy. From, yeah, like he appears and for a couple episodes. And they call him like whatever godfather is in Spanish. It's like he's like the head of the club. They're like a subsect of it.

So he comes around. Oh, he's not in it full time. No, but that's the thing. They sprinkle. I mean, he's been in like two out of four episodes. So like, yes, but technically he's not the main focus. The guy, Chucky, you got all his fingers chopped off in Sons of Anarchy. He was like the he was like the like the secretary almost.

He was like the bitch of the club. Yeah, like he just will pop in every now and then. Is he the one who actually died in real life? No, that's One Nut. One Nut died? club. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, he just will pop in every now and then. Is he the one who actually died in real life? No, that's One Nut. One Nut died? Yeah. Remember him? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He died in a very Sons of Anarchy way.

Right, right, right, right. Like a shootout high on meth. Yeah. Like, it was something wild. It shouldn't have. That's okay. But so, like, they'll sprinkle in other characters where it's like, oh, yeah, that was the dude from Sons of Anarchy. You see, like, crossover.

You know, it's not Sons. It's not, like, it's not Brilliant TV, it is those stupid Kurt Sutter hour and a half episodes where it's like, why the fuck do you need to do that? Hour and a half with like 35, 40 minutes of commercials, it's like, should have just been a fucking 40 minute show. I feel like in that one I would have preferred

either the Niners, right? Niners or the Chinese. No, the White Supremacists. Oh yeah, the Aryans. But even that, so there's some crossover. They've run into some white supremacists. It's all the same characters and rivalries and whatnot. The Asian crew is in it a little bit. They fought with the white supremacists this last episode.

I feel like at some point you've got to have them fight Sam Crow. I think so. I mean, I think. Maybe it's the finale of season one. Hopefully. I would imagine if they're going to drop somebody in there. Season, episode one of Sons of Anarchy, that started with Mayans, right? With the people who were burned alive in the warehouse.

Were the Mayans. I think they were Hispanic or Mexican immigrants. So I think right away you start with the clash. I hope that Kurt Sutter has, I don't know what I'm saying, has like the ace up his sleeve and nobody's talked about it, nobody knows it. But if Charlie Hunnam just like drops out of the sky, it would be unbelievable. Speaking of Charlie Hunnam, a quick shout out to, once I finished Marvelous Mrs. Maisel

this weekend, I realized it was time to do something serious. And I watched Lost City of Zed, which is Lost City of Z. What's that? Which is Charlie Hunnam and. Oh, it's a movie. Yeah. Rob Pattinson. Yeah.

Yeah. Good stuff. Yeah. Probably not. The way you, the way you just said it there makes me think it's a classic Feidelberg movie. No, no, no, no, no. It's like, yeah. Good stuff. Yeah? Probably not. The way you just said it there makes me think it's a classic Feidelberg movie. No, no, no, no. It's like one that wasn't seen very much, but it's like a 96 on Rock and Roll. Oh, all right, all right.

Charlie Hunnam's English, right? Yes. Got an accent? Yeah. Shout out Green Street. Jax's American accent is so bad. I don't really notice stuff like that. I think just because I'm so used to Americans speaking so differently, I never, unless it's Boston

where I grew up, I don't recognize. I always say, like, that guy sounds weird, and then I look up and it's like, oh, he's English. He just talks funny. Well, it's because he's trying to do an American accent. Mr. Inbetween is the other show on FX right now. Australian. All Australian. Love it. Big time subtitle show. At this point, I'm subtitles everything. Me too. I put subtitles

on for fucking Jeopardy. Which actually, you can't do that because the question is answered on the subtitle first. Which actually you can't do that because the question is answered on the subtitle first. So you really can't do game shows with the subtitles. Spoils I turn it off too. I watched the Ryder Cup this weekend,

I turn it off. But everything else, I mean, Always Sunny, subtitles. Yep. Why not? Mr. Inbetween,

the first couple episodes, I think are very much setting the scene, setting the tone. This guy is like a, he's like a muscle collector yeah i think i incorrectly described him as a hitman he's not a hitman he's a bouncer at a strip club who he just does all the all the dirty work you know the first episode he's you know

throwing people over a balcony because they owe money that sort of shit yeah second episode second episode we start using guns okay yeah there There's a teaser for you. Australian muscle enforcer guns FX. Now I don't know was episode, so there's only been one week of it? Yes. Because it started episode one aired at 11 26 p.m. You can't be starting shows at 11.30. Episode two played at midnight.

Yeah, you can't be doing that. That to me is wild. At 12 o'clock next one, I actually in our group text I said I'll catch it later. I ended up being up. Well, you know what? I was up for it. I'm okay with that.

But that just screams to me like this show is not that good or not being taken seriously. But it's getting. If you're getting the 11.30 start. It's getting very good reviews. It was season, the episode one and two were slow-ish. But also a half hour, you can deal with slow. An hour slow. It's weird.

It's kind of the same thing where you can't watch a full movie but you can watch six episodes of the office yeah right like if you break up two half hours i can deal with slow but one hour of slow is not okay one story of slow is like this story sucks two stories you can deal with and again i think it was establishing you know who he is and how the character works i think we get a little taste in the episode too where he's gonna have a love interest and she very much reminds me of Tara from Sunday Anarchy she's got the brunette Tara from Sons

and Wendy from Billions, two characters I want to have sex with she's hot but not absurdly sexy it's her personality that's sexy she's also an Ambo, which is Australian for EMT I like that Australian for beer and Ambo for EMT Australian for EMT. I like that.

Australian for beer and Ambo for EMT. It's my Australian accents. Not accents, words. But she's I think they're starting a little romantic. They do a little kissing. A little French kissing? French kissing, oh yeah. But yeah, I'm in on it. I think it'll be re-aired tonight. It'll be episode three. And we wrap up with a

enormous bounce back week for Always Sunny. I don't think they need. I think Sunny's. John, you're too much of a Sunny fan. That episode stunk. No. They were very. I thought it was very funny.

Again, I like when they get meta and they keep describing, why are we just doing this for the girls? This is stupid. We should do our own thing. Yeah. I thought that was. There were a lot of like very funny moments. Well, you know, Sunny is like LeBron. So you get to triple double in the finals and you, like, why are we just doing this for the girls? This is stupid. We should do our own thing. Yeah. I thought that was stupid. There were a lot of, like, very funny moments. Well, you know, Sonny is like LeBron, so he gets a triple-double in the finals, and you're

like, well, you know, could have been better. So I'm sure that episode was, you know, funnier than, and I do fuck with that almost any time Artemis is on the screen. Although, I actually found her character to be annoying, but, like, I love Artemis. I actually don't like Charlie's mom. That episode, though, when you, yeah, she's a little too ridiculous, right? Yeah. But, I mean, it's just, you know,

when there's no Dennis, no Charlie, no Mac, barely any Frank, it's just like, well, the episodes are always funnier when it's the whole gang. And I appreciate what they were doing. It was funny. The stewardess, the male flight attendant is funny.

It had its moments. The waitress just being totally blacked out. It was funny. But I mean, this most recent episode, the Time's Up is Dennis, when he is doing Time's Up to everybody, like you're rich, but you're not that rich. You're Time's Up.

And everybody, the way they all perk up when they realize we're talking about it. Frank has a moment when he's talking about you're rich, but you're not that rich and Frank turns his head like a puppy, kind of like, wait, what?

Your time's up. It was just so fucking vicious. There were probably 50 laugh out loud moments in that episode. That's so good. The gang is... Just grab my ass!

And then she's like... They're getting a little too much power. Sonny is always at his best when there's a person of authority or intelligence the lawyer or in this case like the girl who was running like the seminar who they're like no settle down like that's not correct and they're just peppering them with questions or yelling out reactions and it's just like no what no sit down what's going on here the absolute best it just highlights how fucking sociopathic Dennis is,

how stupid Charlie is, how weird Mac is, how depraved Frank and D are. It's the best dynamic when it's them versus someone who's smarter than them. I think, I'm trying to think of my favorite lines. I think every single scene, they changed scenes a fair amount. Every single scene has just when Frank says,

wait, we gotta take care of her. I did a number on that one. He's in his robe, yelling at his lawyer or whoever to deal with the hookers. He's like, call them all up. No, not the Chinese. I just don't do the Chinese, man. Oh, she was like, Filipino? Yeah, get her on there.

I did a number on her. That's so fucking sick, dude. I thought it was a huge bounce back. I thought it was by far, you know, Escape the Room was fine. It was funny. It was fine. I had people tell me that was an all-timer. No, that was not.

People were just riding high. I think that's my least favorite this episode. Yeah. No, I mean, Lady Boggs was the worst. But I think, you know, people get a little too into Sonny and almost anything they do is funny. It's okay to say, like, that episode wasn't that funny or not as good as others. I wasn't crazy about Escape the Room. I thought Lady Boggs was very do is funny. It's okay to say that episode wasn't that funny or not as good as others. I wasn't crazy about Escape the Room. I thought Ladybugs was very, very funny.

It's still third, but I thought it was very, very funny. Two, season opener, one. I mean, this was the first episode of the season where I was like, let's cook. Let's go. So, you know, are we putting this out tomorrow? Tonight. So, new episode tonight of Sunny. And that's it for Watchlist this week.

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