KFC Radio - We React to Penn Firing Ben Mintz And Overruling Dave Portnoy Ft Rory & Mal

Episode Date: May 4, 2023

Timecodes 00:27 Ben Mintz Fired 33:22 KFC nearly fought another driver after a road rage fit 45:34 Jackson Mahomes Charged with Battery 46:30 https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/16537...77486704984064 01:01:34 This generation isn't ready for the Writers Strike 01:24:54 Who's The Biggest A**hole 01:41:17 Video Voicemails 02:05:09 Rory and Mal ++++++++++++++++++++++++ Pirate Water: Go to https://barstool.link/drinkpiratewater to find pirate water in a location near youYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/kfcr

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, KFC Radio listeners, you can find every episode of KFC Radio on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Look how ready he is! Look how ready he is right now. Bro, we were going to do it at all three shows. All right. A little extra. Well, should I even be like this is extra? I feel like we finished recording and got the news.
Starting point is 00:00:46 We're out of this. All right. New episode of KFC Radio. We are adding this extra segment on after the fact because we were finished up recording when we got the news about Mincy getting fired. So a late night edition onto the podcast. We'll have our regular normal fun after this but um obviously it's uh it's a shitty situation and and kind of a you know an unfortunate watershed moment for barstool or it's kind of like a before and after it's
Starting point is 00:01:19 going to be a moment that uh i think people talk about for a while, just because it's, you know. The classification of America, Kevin. Can't even say the N-word into a live mic anymore. Well, yes, there is two sides to the story. There are two sides, and they're both really funny, to be honest. I want to be honest before we get into anything um i've been in a movie i don't know what the temperature of anything is so i'm just gonna go okay and you can steer the ship and i'm the the temperature right now that i've
Starting point is 00:01:57 started talking it seems like the temperature is a different temperature than i thought it was i think i think your temperature is off i think your thermostat's broken the temperature right now is one of uh not my barstool penstool sports penstool sports sucks you know you sold out uh you know old barstool never do this dave dave shouldn't do this you know all that i i agree with that. Yeah. I see. I'm very much going to both sides this thing because I see both sides exceptionally clearly. Well, I mean, Dave, Dave laid it out as close as clearly as you can. If you haven't heard that, go to Dave's Twitter.
Starting point is 00:02:38 He had an emergency press conference where he basically lays out. And if you don't know the story, Mincy last week, do it during his live Wake Up With Mincy video was rapping Bone Thug's lyrics, accidentally slipped the N-word in there, and the executives over at Penn said, we believe that there is a strong to almost a 100% chance that certain states would pull their gambling license with Barstool over this issue if Penn did not act, you know, swift and decisively and fire
Starting point is 00:03:14 Mincy. Now, Dave said that he fought like tooth and nail and was saying, you know, if it was me, I would tell those states to go fuck themselves, to which Jay was like, Jay Snowden, the CEO of Penn, was like, if you do that with one of the states, like all of the states would follow suit and we would like lose our gambling existence. Penn is a $1 billion, multi-billion dollar company, as Dave said.
Starting point is 00:03:42 They have shareholders now. They have, you know employees and families and all that stuff and it unfortunately regret what and regret they have a significant amount of regret as well right now they're probably like whoops uh so they decided you know it was not worth the the risk mincy uh you know they have to fire him to you know show a show of good faith that you know they handled the situation um you know anybody who thinks it's anything other than like an accident or uh just a slip up yeah like there's no it will there's no malintent there's no hints of actual racism in anything mincy has done um but it's just like it's unfortunately
Starting point is 00:04:37 the perfect storm of he's one it's one of the only live things we do well i mean we do live streams but like as far as live show content it's the only one that is out there that couldn't have been edited after the fact and two it's let's let's new rule of barstool sports can't go live that is between the first facebook live rundown and and mincy here i mean it's it's we bullied mincy mincy didn't really do much for about three years here and then we bullied him into a morning show and by we i mean the royal we i don't think i had anything to do with it but the royal we and and my man didn't get through the runtime of Titanic before he dropped an N-bomb. And that's the other half of it. It's the one thing you can't do, you know?
Starting point is 00:05:34 But, you know, I can understand fans who are upset because we know. Go ahead. I'm sorry. I just, you know know we know there's some hypocrisy here like there was another member of our school that once did the same thing and i'm sure people are going to bring that up i myself i mean i've said a million things that i know people are offended by and so i'm sure there are going to be people saying well if this guy how not how come not this guy and this person what about this instance and
Starting point is 00:06:05 that and the other thing and you know to that i say i i don't know it's like one happened in real time one is the worst thing you know the one word you really can't say um but it's it is it is by definite it's cancel culture it is personal sports is now part of cancel culture. I mean, Dave, Dave explicitly said I did watch Dave's video. Dave, like Dave, just I don't know if he realized this, but like he's like, well, they deal with the bigger thing and they're doing what they think is right to protect their brand. That's what everyone who fires someone for doing the wrong thing. That's what it is. That's what they're doing, what they think is someone for doing the wrong thing. That's what, that's what it is.
Starting point is 00:06:46 That's what they're doing. What they think is the best protect their money. It's not what society is going to agree with most of the time, but that's what everyone's doing. And every time they fire someone for fucking up, I think what, what's probably the difference here is not the difference, but I think when Barstool was purchased by Penn,
Starting point is 00:07:06 very clearly we laid out there are things will change in this gambling world you can't say certain words you can't act you can't bet to you know above your means we're not doing anything illegal gambling wise you have to follow the letter of the law when you're talking about gambling like explicitly and i think everybody understood that this is the first time it's like well this is not about gambling this is about it the the bottom line ends up being gambling we get to gambling but it's coming from content and it's coming from uh you know deciding on what language can and can't be used and who can say what and who can't say what. And so that's, you know, that is not just like, Hey, we have rules and regulations we need
Starting point is 00:07:51 to follow. This is image. This is an image issue. And if you start to go down that path, you know, the infamous phrase of slippery slope. So, um, Just to interject for a sec. Uh, it was on the barstool sports book YouTube. Yeah. And, and that, you know, that certainly does not help. It's a actual gambling property of barstool, but I don't think, I think that this would be a problem no matter where it came from. Now that Penn owns the whole company, I don't think it really makes a difference which stream it's on.
Starting point is 00:08:28 Maybe this hurt the cause even more so, but I think this could have happened pretty much anywhere. Yeah, I think he probably could have said anywhere. I do think it's probably worse on the gambling thing. Yeah, I obviously wholeheartedly agree with all people who are like, not my barstool. I've written blogs about things in the past already. I think the people who are surprised by that are, like,
Starting point is 00:08:57 surprised that their grandmother who had cancer died. It's been this way. The writing's been on the wall. They've told us until they were blue in the face that things won't change and they told listeners and readers things won't change i mean if you believe that i got a bridge to tell you like things obviously have to change in some regard i think they've been great about almost everything else i don't think there really has i mean have they interjected
Starting point is 00:09:26 into content at all other than this no no but i mean i wouldn't i wouldn't expect them to to do that but i i don't think content and not ours we obviously don't do much gambling content we have limited to no interaction with pen um but like yeah things are going to be run like for to say things weren't going to be run differently or to say things weren't going to change is it's crazy crazy again i mean they told to us too it wasn't just to the fans it was also to employees and and they tell employees all the time that you don't have to do gambling content i don't even know if i still believe that but i'm not along um so it is yeah not my fault but as far so there's there's two different types of different though there's like that sort of stuff and then there's like censorship and i i don't
Starting point is 00:10:18 think that at least from my point of view again not that much interaction with them you know they've never i've never heard from pen on any of our topics or any of our segments. We also, though, I think we are pretty good at the line. We know where the line is. We know where the line was. We know where the line is. We operate within that parameter, as does everybody at Barstool, except for this instance of a slip up and it you
Starting point is 00:10:46 know i i i don't know the how complex the issue is i wish there was a way to like see if there's an issue first like you know i i haven't it's i haven't heard the mob is not like banging down penn's door unless they were, you know, if I, if, if there was somebody picked up the phone today and said, Hey, Jay, we got a problem with this. And maybe that's, this is them just trying to, uh, you know, forecast and get ahead of things, which is always smart business-wise. But I'm like, man, is, is that happening? Dave said, you know, the people who hate us will use anything against us. And I'm sure he said, you know, Emily people who hate us will use anything against us. And I'm sure he said,
Starting point is 00:11:29 you know, Emily Steele or whatever that one girl's name is. I think it's a business insider girl or, you know, one of them, I'm sure it's one of the enemies is frothing at the mouth right now to, to, to write about this. And it's like, I don't know. Is Mincy, you know, going to draw that sort of ire? Like they probably will try to use anything and everyone against Dave and Barstool. But until they did, is it and was it going to be an issue? But I guess, you know, that's rather reactive rather than proactive to just wait to see if you have a problem. And at the end of the day, I don't think any one person is going to be deemed more important than the whole operation by Penn.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Now, some people, there's probably like two people at the company that would. You know, Dave's always said that everybody gets judged differently. I don't know if anybody could survive this one. But if there is, it's probably a very short list of one or two people. Oh, I would want to be gone. Yeah. Yeah. So like I it's one of those things where it's like it was so harmless and in a way silly, despite the fact that it's a very serious issue. The way it unfolded and the way we talked about it it is there is some humor to it and in that regard you're like this is no no one deserves to be fired for it and then the other side is like a very clear cut you're in corporate america now and you said the one word you can't
Starting point is 00:12:57 and it was on camera and it was live so of course there's going to be repercussions so i you know both sides are when it first happened, I was like, he's not even going to get an email over this. Like, it was in the picture. He wouldn't, it would be fine. And if, and if Dave still had say, I don't know, I think he would have been like, well, if XYZ state wants to pull the, the, the, the, the license, then like, fuck them. But it's not his call anymore and that's also you know it's like a matter of months after the switch over it was really just the
Starting point is 00:13:33 perfect storm to to fuck over mincy um but again it's not really when it's like yeah everybody's got to take responsibility for their actions and it's's not that like- It really is the clearest, like, both sides thing of all time. Because it reminds me of, and I've told this story before, when my buddy called me on like a Tuesday morning. And I was like, why is he calling me? And he was like, you always think that's an emergency to answer that call. I was like, what's up? He's like, I just got fucking fired, dude.
Starting point is 00:14:01 And I was like, oh, shit. What happened? And he was like, he's like like i don't know some bullshit but my number's not being enough and my expense is being too big and i'm late for work all the time and i don't respect my boss and i was like so all the reasons then so all the and like if you call mason he's like why did i get fired and it's like i don't know i didn't i went to a lot of college baseball games like three years and then i said the n-word pretty quick on a show. He'd be like, okay, so the reasons to get fired.
Starting point is 00:14:28 Also, in context, it really... I don't know. I said a million times on here I thought it was funny. I get to say that. This white gentleman has declared saying the N-word was funny. But it is...
Starting point is 00:14:43 It's like, yeah, I get it it and also i don't get it yeah and i the only thing is you know i've seen i've seen some people saying you know good luck trying to grow a comedy brand with rules like this this rule already exists pretty much everywhere you know and uh and yeah does it set the best tone that if you come to barstool or if you already work at barstool and you let it rip that they very quickly say hey you know you ain't worth the risk you're gone yeah i guess that's not great but like what what reality are you operating in that that you would think unless you know unless we bring in fucking uh dave chappelle like whoever comes in is not going to be worth the risk of a billion dollar gambling entity so and it's it's not a unique uh
Starting point is 00:15:41 uh situation it also wasn't that quick again mincy's been here like three years i like mincy very much i i but i've never worked with him so i can i think i'm kind of looking at more scientifically than perfect uh personally i don't really know him that well as a person i i don't think that like mincy's been here three years that's a long it's not like a very quick decision to decide on someone that's a long time yeah yeah no i i'm just saying more like like yeah i meant more like you know whoever whoever would come in to to the to this new comedy branch would already i think understand if i were to ever go live and say a racial slur i'm probably on the chopping block yeah and let's make sure we put it in the bylaws
Starting point is 00:16:26 like white guys n-word no maybe we'll put that at the top top of the list now if this got to the point where if uh if we hired somebody or if somebody already at barstool if they dig up old tweets and it's and it's like a long time ago or out of context or a word or a joke or a saying that is not as clear cut as the one racial slur you can't say. And that person got fired. There are other examples, I think, where I would be like, wait a minute, this actually really does set a bad tone and a bad precedent. I'm pretty sure a precedent of you can't go live and say the N word is already been established, whether it was spoken or unspoken or old Barstool or new Barstool, you know. And I guess that's where people come in being like hypocritical because it has been done before and there was no firing.
Starting point is 00:17:23 I tell you, man, the boss did it at the time. And he didn't fire himself. And it was a different world. And, you know, he already went through that. And I actually think Dave has, like, you know, changed and learned and adapted on that one after being stubborn at first. I think he kind of saw the big picture. So, yes, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:17:44 Is there some level of hypocrisy? Is there some level of unfairness? Is there some level of, not my barstool, is there some level of, this isn't the best scenario for content creators? All of these things are true, yes. But them's the breaks, I don't know. Sometimes bad shit, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:02 unfortunate shit happens when you make content a billion hours a week with a billion people all in the mix this you know the good thing about our stool is you get hired and it's like go rip it the bad thing about our stool is you know maybe someone who was uh not should have been live on one of our major channels got the chance to go live you know you go to any other like content creator it's like hey i want to do a wake-up show can go live you know you go to any other like content creator it's like hey i want to do a wake-up show can i use you know the the main account the main gambling account youtube uh it's like yeah maybe in like 10 years when we vet you and we you know what i
Starting point is 00:18:35 mean all that goes for two weeks first right right so you know there's's – in that regard, it's the most farce thing ever. So, yeah. I mean, I never – it's like I never thought he would get fired. And then I think to myself, why did you never think that? Like – I really didn't think there was going to be – I was like, no one's going to care about this. And obviously, that has been changed.
Starting point is 00:19:04 It wasn't that I think no anyone was going to care about it. I thought everyone was going to look at it in the way we did. He had clear, immediate remorse. He was reading something. He wasn't rapping from memory. He wasn't rapping long. He was just reading words. And Mincy just, I think Dave said to Ron Bergen,
Starting point is 00:19:19 it was just the words were there and he read them. If you gave him Huck Finn, it would have been the same result. It's just mid-saw words, red words. It was maybe not the best. Maybe do a test run to see, am I going to read every word right here? I've said this 200 times already. It is the clearest case of like yeah this is fucked up and he clearly didn't mean it and also yeah i mean he said the unordered
Starting point is 00:19:53 like i don't yeah it is i don't know if pan expected uh we have to take swift action on this and i don't think they plan for everyone being like hashtag mince did nothing wrong that's my thing like like was there any backlash so far like that's no no i i mean i i don't think there was i but i don't think they're talking about backlash from like the mob or whatever the fuck you want to yeah the gambling shit right you're talking about yeah i think it's more like this could get no backlash until let's say uh january 1st 2024 is when blah blah state revises their gambling licenses and that's when somebody with an axe to grind picks up the phone and says hey you know senator whoever or whatever did you know that this is what barcelo sports did and like or did not do they didn't do anything about this and then
Starting point is 00:20:47 then it comes back to bite you so you know and i and i just like i said i don't think anybody is gonna ever get the pass from penn on a situation like this but it's also certainly not gonna be you know uh i don't think mincy was gonna there's just nobody who penn could justify risking all of that against what you know he does and brings in for the company yeah i thought i thought dave should have taken a little more like and like i thought there's a little buck passing going on and and you could say you fought whatever but the i don't know i if you're still i i guess i don't know who's what anymore i guess everyone is everyone applied employed by pen i don't i don't i guess no one really the thing is i think it's literally it's not dave's call i think dave can
Starting point is 00:21:39 be consulted and then they can and then and he was and it sounds like uh about 24 hours of those guys fighting back but they ultimately say like cool understand your viewpoint i i think he said jay like agrees like he's he said jay snowden views the world the way we do meaning like all of this stuff when it comes to cancel culture and humor and PC and all that shit, like Jay is very much aligned with what Barstool does. I think that's how this whole deal worked. And that's why it's relatively gone smoothly and there has been no sort of interjecting. But this is, you know, we haven't had anything on this level of this magnitude since they took fully over. And now there's, you know, we haven't had anything on this level of this magnitude since they've, since they took fully over. And now there's, you know, I think there should be a, a change, not a change, but like,
Starting point is 00:22:30 there should be someone who is the face from, from 10 or yeah. Yeah. And who like also works with bar school and, and, and they're like, this was my decision. Yeah. Yeah. You're right. Because right now it's just, I mean, you know, Dave did mention Jay by name. So it's not like they're not putting a name on it, but it is kind of like Dave was the content person that represented Barstool with Penn and vice versa. And now if he's just like, it's not my call, I don't do that anymore. It's like, well, who does?
Starting point is 00:23:06 And who is, you know, is it Erica? Is it, I'm sure it's maybe a combination of, but at the end of the day, you know, who really, I wonder if this happened a couple months ago, if it was still when Barstool was very much under Penn's umbrella, but not a full, you know, fully under, would they have said, would they have pulled the plug? They've said, we're not going to buy the other 50%. Would they have said to our shareholders, that's this other subsidiary. We don't, you know, we only do these things with them. We have nothing to do with that. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:23:38 Because he did do gambling and he was on there on their streams and whatnot. So I don't know, but you're right it is kind of like well if it's not you then who is it yeah that's not even like me being like i'm looking that that's that's an employee who's curious yeah it's like who do i have to you know make sure i know their rules and a lot of this is common sense that's why people be like good luck building a brand it's like i don't know like anybody that i would try to bring in. I would, I guess, I guess I have to explain this, but I think they would pretty much understand that and fall in line with it really quick. you know and i know what it's more about is you want to work for a company that has your back um and you know doesn't throw you to the fire if shit goes down but you know welcome to the real world welcome to the new world welcome to also the corporate world it's like yeah we're not the the 10 guys in a dentist office anymore it is a big fucking company it's a public company
Starting point is 00:24:43 and so that's how this is going to go from now on and again again like i don't again i mean i knew that they they claim otherwise but you always knew that but the common sense thing is like everything's common sense in retrospect this one is again the obvious one but they're like there could be next week something like common sense you can't do that and like i don't know like i was making a joke and again we're separate i think we're separate i don't fucking know i don't know who we report to i don't know who fires us i don't know what but like there are definitely like while this was going down while when dave posted his video we were doing um an out of order sketch
Starting point is 00:25:25 and I have sketch ideas where I'm like it's definitely toeing a line I'm not saying any horrible words outright there are some where I have some in mind and I think we've discussed some that are definitely like hmm now I'm like
Starting point is 00:25:41 now I don't know that is what people are thinking about. You know, it used to be the place of like shoot first, you know, ask for forgiveness later. And now you have to think about things and maybe tone it down. And yeah, man, like that does suck. What do you want me to tell you? I wish it was back in 2009 where I could use every word I wanted and touch every topic I wanted to be as funny as possible.
Starting point is 00:26:06 Nobody gets the luxury of doing that anymore. Nobody anywhere. It's not a barstool issue. It's not a pen issue. It's the world. And I think that for the most part, it's been pretty cool. They've been pretty good.
Starting point is 00:26:18 It's the one obvious you can't do. And you know, if the rest of the world took context and intent into everything we'd be fine people don't people when they take things out of context when they just use the clip when they bring up old shit when they use it to you know actively work against you you don't want to give your enemies ammo so if i'm going to play devil's advocate here like that we're just making the argument against like that's yeah anyone who was ever firing someone because of the mob could use that excuse yeah yeah and that just wasn't what barstool was and now it is yeah right
Starting point is 00:26:53 i i you know when you uh it's a lot easier to talk about freedom of speech and, you know, the purity of comedy and all that when you don't have a billion dollars of employees and shareholders and all that shit. You know, it's like every every decision you make, every every every decision you make in life comes down to like a risk reward. And when you get in, when you're playing in the when you're in the deep end, the way we are a lot more to risk. And it, you know, I agree. But again, these are just the things anyone could like, it's, it's just, it's who we are now. We are the monster. We are the mountain. It's not fun for everybody. But yeah, but I would just say, I,
Starting point is 00:27:41 I think we've still done a great job of becoming, if this is like the worst that it gets for corporate barstool, I think that's a pretty fair trade-off. I think it made a lot of people a lot of money. It brings in a lot of new talent. It's paying. I think there's a lot of people making money that they never thought they would make, opportunities they never thought they would get. And for the most part, you can do and say whatever you want. If the one line is like, please don't use the number one racial slur on live entertainment on our channel, I would say that's a successful sellout. It's not like they came in, they fired everybody, and the next day we weren't allowed to curse at Barstool.
Starting point is 00:28:25 They just said, hey, don't do this one thing. I agree wholeheartedly. And we'll see. You know, we will see what the future brings. Like, you know, the celebrity slope. But I think for the most part, this is. Do you think it'll. And I've since the change.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Like, I don't think I've ever really held anything back. I don't think I will going forward. I don't. I think I guess I will hold back the N-word. But do you think, do you see it affecting anything you do? I'll be honest, without shooting ourselves in the foot and incriminating ourselves with these enemies who like to go after us, I feel like we've been letting it fly more than ever.
Starting point is 00:29:07 I agree with that very strongly. I agree with that as well. What does that mean? Are you cutting stuff out? No. I'm just aware of you guys. I thought it was set in a tone of my job's getting a lot harder.
Starting point is 00:29:29 Oh, no. I'm just ready to talk to people. And like, I'm just like always there's certain things I've been like, Oh, someone's going to come talk to me about this. No one's actually noticed yet. So yeah. Yeah. No, like we are, we are pretty lucky. We are kind of on our own Island, I guess it's because we don't do much gambling stuff, which is why our time here is limited. I'm sure. But I think, I mean, people in bars, like other co-workers of ours have said, like, boy, you guys are just like letting it rip these days. And people have been really liking the show.
Starting point is 00:29:58 But I think this is how it goes. It's kind of like you push, push, push, and then there's like an incident and you fall back. Will I, you know, say some of the things I've been saying and some of the words i've been using and all that i probably will cool it out for a little bit and i don't think that that's gonna like kill the show i think that'll be okay and then you know six months from now you see where the temperature of barstool and pen and the world is and you you know adapt accordingly this is what we've been doing the whole time in the very beginning there was no adaption a couple years into me too we adapted a few years into cancel
Starting point is 00:30:30 culture we adapted into the trump era we adapted you adapt and you keep it moving and you figure out ways to still entertain without you know pissing off the major extremes of either you know either political party or either law entity or any fan base or whatever. It's what we've always been doing. I think I am going to adapt by pushing one sketch back a little bit. Probably a good idea. Probably a decent idea.
Starting point is 00:30:58 Not awful. We'll put it back a month. Post post. A little PPD. I don't know. It's fucking funny, dude. The one we have to do arts and crafts for? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:09 Yeah. Yeah. Sketch. I say let it fly. Yeah, I think so. I think it's like that. If Hamilton's in. I'm just saying if Nick Hammy says let it rip, you can let it rip.
Starting point is 00:31:21 It's it's it's funny, dude. It's funny. We're like, it's funny. I don't want to tell you. It's funny.'s it's it's funny dude it's funny we're gonna like it's funny i don't know what to tell you it's funny it's gonna be funny maybe i'll get fired but it's gonna be that would be really funny if you get fired that would be very funny that would be that'd be hilarious that would be really funny really funny you have you have full permission to 100 laugh and make fun of me if this sketch comes out i think we're doing it no i think it's i actually think it's next episode anyway pavs it is uh if it's funny enough it was gonna go on this one
Starting point is 00:31:57 it was too funny to move to the next episode it was going out in a week so i think the sooner the better for this one so i'll put out next week okay it's funny it's funny man it's a funny sketch well anyway uh you know free mincey I'm sure he'll land on his feet somewhere. And, you know, we'll see where it comes. But I think this is, you know, one of those. It'll be one of the chapters in the book. And there's no way to tell exactly the fallout until, you know, some time has passed. In the meantime, we'll always have
Starting point is 00:32:47 a few episodes of Wake Up with Mincy and a whole bunch of... We will always have the bobblehead video courtside at the Pelicans game, which might be the funniest thing on the internet. If that's the case, Mincy was one of those...
Starting point is 00:33:04 What's it called? I burned twice as bright, half as long, or whatever that And so if that's the case, Mincy was one of those, what's it called? I, you know, I, I burned twice as bright, half as long or whatever that saying is. Yeah. That goddamn bobblehead with that styrofoam,
Starting point is 00:33:12 like falling in that guy's mouth. Well, you're apart. If that's all, if it's, if nothing else comes out of Ben Mince, that, that video makes cements his legacy.
Starting point is 00:33:23 And also the bone thugs one. It's another edition of KFC Radio on the Barstool Sports Network. I just had a good, true, blue road rage incident. Yeah. Yeah. It was right by the garage. I mean, we're talking like next to each other, windows down at each other he ended up getting out of the car like white trash cops type shit it was wild well i was white but i'm white trash he's not um we were it was right uh coming across
Starting point is 00:33:59 eighth avenue and we were all driving it was like moving and then something like i don't know somebody started to cross the street or something happened or all of a sudden it was a dead stop we were both going to block the box so i was in front and i pulled off to the right of like the the the last guy and he pulled off to the left so that you know we wouldn't block when it goes green in my world whoever was in the front then joins back in first and i also don't really care about that but this guy immediately like like tries to like ram his nose in but since i was in front i had like a little bit of an edge and then once you're an asshole then i'm an asshole back so i was just like not letting it happen so i mean i just had the edge the whole time and i just like
Starting point is 00:34:42 kept like slowly going and then he starts honking, and then I'm really not going to stop. So we're barely moving. I'm just sitting on my phone. I'm watching this guy who does – have you seen the guy who does all the Little John remixes? No. He does From the Window to the Wall, but just in every version of every song ever. And I swear to God, if I was Ed Sheeran, I would call him into court because it's like any song can be sung in any way he does he does from the window to the wall to the sweatshirt down my balls skeet skeet motherfucker in every song you've ever heard we didn't start the fire dust
Starting point is 00:35:15 in the wind sound of silence it's very funny i like that sheeran by the way uh saying he's gonna quit music hell yeah you find out how important you are real quick. Why? Were people – Just depending on what the jury does. Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm done making songs. I wonder if that – as we're now jury experts from jury duty,
Starting point is 00:35:35 I wonder if that affects – That would sway me. Yeah, I'd be like, well, I'm just going to – even if I – I was like, yeah, you stole that shit. I want him to keep making songs. Yeah. No more 10 of free C. uh yeah you win yeah it's also sorry to interrupt you know weirdly
Starting point is 00:35:51 i like him and the woman suing him or like hugging and like embracing before court and stuff like that oh that's weird it's very weird i guess well what really makes a big difference is the fact that it's martin gaye's estate because then it just feels like i don't know if you stole my song from me i'd be pissed if my kids were like mad that you know what i mean yeah like if anything i would want my kids to be like it's awesome you know like my dad's music lives on or some shit i didn't also know that he's been bringing his guitar to court and just playing different songs hell yeah like being like look i can do basically what you're saying like look I can do this this way. I can play, I can say,
Starting point is 00:36:27 I can sing Thinking Out Loud to any song. If I was the jury, I'd be like, I need Ed Sheeran to do this a couple times. I'm not, I'm not exactly sure yet. Can I bring my daughters? Can I film? Can I? Excuse me, Your Honor.
Starting point is 00:36:36 Run at that. That, that, we've been blessed with celebrity, celebrity court trials this year. What else was there? We got Johnny De depp we had guenna paltrow and now we get ed sheeran if ed sheeran's gonna get cocky and do shit like that that could get that could become a lot of fun you guys will lose this forever the the uh the absolute like eye test open and shut of that case is did like anybody in the world for the first like
Starting point is 00:37:02 five years that song was out ever go, oh, he ripped that from Martin Gaye? Yeah. I'm sure some people did. I'm sure the musical experts with their ear, and obviously the Martin Gaye estate did, but the general vibe. When Miley Cyrus puts out Flowers, everyone was like, oh, that's the Bruno Mars song. Everybody hears it and knows it.
Starting point is 00:37:21 Nobody in the world said that. Not to my recollection. Also, why now now or is it like blue red tape that took like forever to get into the court because it's like the shit was old you know anyway so um it gets to the point where like we he he's like trying to get around and i also know this street because i drive on it every day and i know that i've got the city bikes coming up on his left to help me. So I was like, I'm not losing this battle.
Starting point is 00:37:48 You're going to eventually run into the city bike parking things and you're fucked. So they rolled down their window and I rolled down mine. I was like, what's the deal? And I got called a bitch ass mincey many, many times. And his girl was like flipping me off and they were like you're being a dickhead and i was like we both did the same thing we both know what we did we both were not we were in the intersection we shouldn't have been so we pulled off to the side and then you have to come back in we both did that there was no reason you should be in front of me
Starting point is 00:38:18 and the fact he kept going if i saw you i would have let you in i was like you obviously saw me because you were honking at me and fighting me so no you didn't see me i i knew exactly what you were doing you knew exactly what i was doing you just didn't want it you wanted to be in front and you don't deserve to be in front so i i like win the battle because he hits the he hits the city bikes which i knew was gonna happen and then i'm like all right whatever it's over at this point i'm like a hundred feet away from the garage I park in. But there's more traffic. And then he pulls up the other side where there's some room.
Starting point is 00:38:55 And he, like, zips up and parks his car and gets out. And I was like, well, this is either where, like, this story gets real fun or he just takes out a gun and shoots me. Because at this day and age, it's really just not even worth any sort of, like, fighting over a parking spot or anything. Because someone will just fucking take a gun and shoots me because at this day and age it's really just not even worth any sort of like fighting over a parking spot or anything because someone will just fucking take a gun and shoot you and we just like started hashing out again and i was like i i tried to i i i stuck my hand and i was like bro come on like we were both being stupid whatever this is silly like i'm in the right but whatever and he's like i'm not i'm not giving you a dab. So I'm like, okay, fine. He said something, I don't know if he said, you got mad scared when I got out of my car
Starting point is 00:39:30 making fun of me, or I thought he said something about me being scary. He was like, that was scary. And I was like, I don't know, none of this is fucking scary. Who gives a shit? But his girlfriend
Starting point is 00:39:40 got out of the car too. And the whole thing ended with is those two fighting because he was like get back in the car what are you doing she was like i'm fine i'm fine and i just like casually like just pulled into my garage just knowing that i just ruined that guy's day because he's fighting with his girlfriend for the rest of the fucking day as they go to work or whatever so if that was you i i don't it got my blood flowing. Sounds like a KFC radio listener. Yeah, I don't think he'll ever hear that. But window to window, like, I mean, this close, like, fucking could have easily touched each other if we wanted to.
Starting point is 00:40:16 And I know they wanted me to say something racist. And I was like, they're going to have to. I've never been in a situation like that, like that close, because I'd just be like, go ahead. I'm not going to fight. But when I'm having my own road rage from a distance, I do say racial slurs, but not the kind you're thinking of. I describe their car, but I say it in a tone that sounds like a racial slur. Oh, okay. You fucking Camry.
Starting point is 00:40:46 These fucking Camrys. I hate these Camrys. Oh, my God. Just a couple Corollas up there. Fucking Tucson. God, I hate Tucson. That's funny. You can really make any word racial, can't you?
Starting point is 00:41:01 Just put some stank on it. Dude, oh, this fucking Cherokee. Cherokees are all... Well, that one. That might be a real one. You can't really make any word racial, can't you? Just put some stank on it. Dude, oh, this fucking Cherokee. Cherokee's are all... Well, that one. That might be a real one. Dude, that is... I started doing it when I was really young, and I was like... I don't know why.
Starting point is 00:41:18 Fuck you, you wrangler. How old is young? Like when you were driving? Yeah. Okay, okay. Not like a little kid, but you had your own... Back up, back up, Franklin. Get out of here, you fucking G-wagons.
Starting point is 00:41:30 I don't know why, but I would hear, I would say in my car, I'd be like, ooh, that's got some stank on it. What do you think it is? I mean, I don't care for any sort of interaction, altercation, otherwise, and I think most people are that way, but why is road rage a thing? Why do people, interaction, altercation, otherwise, but, and I think most people are that way, but, like, why is road rage a thing?
Starting point is 00:41:48 Why do people, like, is it because, I think probably because it's one of the few places you feel safe being so angry, you have the protection of your car, at least. Yes. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:41:54 you have some sort of barrier so you can be a tough guy or whatever. Yeah. But I, I mean, because it's like a dog at a cage. Like, you ever seen,
Starting point is 00:42:02 like, the videos of, like, the dog, like, wah, and then it opens the cage, And then you take him out,
Starting point is 00:42:04 they're just quiet. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But the second the window comes down the door opens like oh never mind right fucking this got real real fast but i it's also like especially i mean a road rage incident in manhattan traffic is like it's asinine it's just like you want to be like 20 feet further than you are while you slowly creep up there's no fucking sense yeah fight for like the whole episode yeah yeah yeah but that's what i mean like like the fact that it was enough to be an episode of television and it's enough that like everybody has had an experience or you you completely change like your entire persona well you know i don't know is there like i guess there's like bicycle rage right the cyclists areists are always fighting. Oh, yes. Is there like –
Starting point is 00:42:46 Someone actually – I was standing in the bike lane because I always stand in the bike lane. It's fucked up. I don't ever – Fucking cyclists. I'm anti-sidewalk. I'm just like – I'm so anti-sidewalk, I become anti-bike. Well, I'm anti-bike, so I am anti-sidewalk. I will stand in the middle of the bike lane.
Starting point is 00:43:03 You lost me. Every single time. If I'm waiting across the the street what if they're flying and they're like ding ding ding ding ding ding ding you stay right there right away is that true pedestrian pedestrians always in the bike in the in the bike lane yeah the middle of the road too you can't hit me it's your fault you hit me yeah there's no there's like there's almost impossible yeah for the pedestrian to be at fault if he gets hit in the street. You're supposed to be paying attention. Right.
Starting point is 00:43:26 You're the driver. But like if you just jump out in a red light like – Yeah, I think there's some leeway there. Yeah. But no, I stay – I don't jump out. I just make myself known. I stay in the middle. You get hit by one of those guys on like a motorbike or just one of the cyclists who are moving.
Starting point is 00:43:41 Oh, right. I pray for the day. You're pretty solid. You would – But I'd also just jump up and like close on again oh yeah yeah yeah like like like what you think you would know once it's past the point of no return like you'd have enough reaction time to be like all right it's on so now i'm gonna close on you yeah because you kind of have like the whole street right like you're like oh he's going through that all right yeah yeah just leave a little
Starting point is 00:44:02 shoulder in there the uh i i was like I was like 18th Street the other day. I was just standing in the middle of the bike lane. Like three cyclists came by like in a row like, bike lane, bike lane. I just went, I don't care. I went full Cutler on them. How about that guy in Austin who went on your left and he wasn't on my left? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was on my right.
Starting point is 00:44:23 And if I had listened. No, he was saying on your right. Whatever. Yeah, whatever it was. But if I had listened to him and like moved that way, we would have my left. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was on my right. And if I had listened. No, he was saying on your right. Whatever. Yeah, whatever it was. But if I had listened to him and moved that way, we would have fucking crashed. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:30 You dumb dickhead. He was the perfect example of a bicyclist. Yeah. He was driving on a one-way, the wrong way on the sidewalk. Like going way too fast. And somehow we're the ones in the way.
Starting point is 00:44:39 Right, right. I at least respect the nerdy cyclists who are doing the hands and all that shit. It's like the delivery guys and the people who are just kind of like, I don't know, BMX biking almost. Just fucking whipping around. I'm like, you're being the asshole.
Starting point is 00:44:53 Every time I see a cyclist break the line, I'll call the police. I'll do it. That'll be your old man. That'll be your Umarell. Dude. Instead of complaining about construction sites, you will just call the cops on cyclists. They got me suspended from Twitter for 10 days days i will get at least 50 of you arrested when it's all said yeah i will win this war yeah yeah revenge best served cold
Starting point is 00:45:15 but you are going to jail for that one you fucking cyclists dirty fucking damn bikers i'll teach you cyclists a lesson. We got Rory and Maul on the show today. From, you know, Rory and Maul were on the Joe Budden show, and they broke up a couple years ago now, I guess it is, and they've started their own thing. So they'll be on the show. We'll get into some of the asshole and voicemails.
Starting point is 00:45:41 We've also got the news of the year, Jackson Mahomes. Yeah. Suspicion of sexual battery, which I think the overwhelming reaction from that video from people was probably like, huh. I didn't see that coming. I didn't watch the video. I just. You think everyone thought he was gay yeah yeah yeah i thought that was a little bit my first reaction was like i would not have this was not on my uh bingo card you know but okay but then you know what it kind of it kind of does make sense too
Starting point is 00:46:18 because i think that can go both ways where they're like i know gay guys who think that they know because they're gay they can just like touch everyone and do everything. Yeah. Like they work here. They can say whatever they want to do, whatever they want. So then it becomes a thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:31 All the fucking time. But, but that was, it was weird when that video came out, that was February 23rd. And I remember being like, yeah, no,
Starting point is 00:46:39 that's you. That's it. That's like, that wasn't, that wasn't like, you know, gray area. That was like black and white. She't like you know gray area that was like black and white she was like pushing him away he was like grabbing her head she had to like wipe her mouth and shit he came back for more i remember being like this should be a crime and it turned out to
Starting point is 00:46:56 be but it was weird that it took this long it just kind of disappeared for a while nobody cared and then uh then he got booked for it and i think i know they're brothers but i feel like patrick holmes is probably like finally he has to get together yeah like i can't tell my brother to stop doing tiktoks i can't tell my brother to not come to my games i can't tell my brother to like stop having fun with my wife i can tell my brother you got to lay low now because you're a fucking sexual deviant. Innocent or guilty, that's going to follow you and people are going to – it's going to be a thing. So you got to disappear now, bro. No more TikTok.
Starting point is 00:47:35 No more none of that shit. Sean Taylor's grave. That dude was just a calamity of errors. I remember thinking like I don't like him because he just is like, nah, you know. He's annoying. He's annoying. But I thought it was bizarre. I've always thought it's bizarre how much hate he and Brittany got.
Starting point is 00:47:53 Like on just a human level, people got like, yeah, all right. Like he's annoying with his TikToks. There's something about her that's a little grating, the way she cheers. She's a little bit in your face, whatever. They both look like shit. The Mac gal too, just saying. Yeah, that is both like share the mac out too just saying yeah that was bro that looked like you know me and oh three going to prom yeah that was not a good look uh but people like you know want to see those two dead you know and i was like that's a little weird you know the world you know you're really
Starting point is 00:48:22 hated when you sexually assault somebody and the reaction is, yes! We got him! We got him! We got him, ladies and gentlemen. There was also that incident where he was a dickhead to a bunch of waiters. That came out and there was a couple stories about a bunch of people corroborated that. So it was like, oh, okay, no, this guy is an asshole to people. And then this one is like the real deal.
Starting point is 00:48:42 Just a weird, weird video. When someone asks the Mahomes parents who their favorite kid is, do you think they pretend they don't know? Bro, that's one of those instances where we love them all equally. And they try and say it with a straight face. Jackson steps up and goes, we know the answer. That's the one where you save yourself the embarrassment. And who's your favorite? Well, Patrick is one of the greatest on. Like that's, that's the one where you save yourself the embarrassment. And who's your favorite?
Starting point is 00:49:05 Like, well, Patrick is one of the greatest football players of all time. It's the half a billionaire. Jackson, you know, he is affectionate. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:49:16 no, that, that, has there ever been, let's try to, let's try to think, I'm trying to think of the, like the,
Starting point is 00:49:23 the families that have, you that have multiple famous people. My favorite family is the Gretzky's. Paul, I feel bad bringing them up with this. But Wayne and Brett Gretzky. What did Brett do? Nothing. That's why I feel bad bringing them up. But the NHL is pretty fraternal and and i mean as a lot of sports
Starting point is 00:49:46 are but i think the nhl more so than others yeah um so there have been a lot of brothers who played the nhl the most points combined are the gretzky's because you have like one is six i'd rather have zero i think it's six check i make check Make sure it's Brad. If you are a Gretzky, I'd rather just sell cars. I'd rather just manage my brother's career or something. I'll be your assistant, Wayne. Six. So what do they have combined? It's like 2,500.
Starting point is 00:50:18 2,500 and six. He's like, come on. It's fucking great man and then he went on to later captain the USA team or something no the fucking garbage team the one with the documentaries though oh yeah
Starting point is 00:50:37 Trashers Danbury Trashers the mob place funding he was the captain he had five total is it Brett it is Brent Brent Gretzky that the mob placed funding on that, right? Yeah, he was the captain. He had five total. Is it Brett? It is Brent. Brent.
Starting point is 00:50:49 Brent Gretzky. Brent, Keith, Kim, Glenn. All siblings. And then Wayne. So five total. And he's the youngest? No, no, no, no, no. How many points did Brent Gretzky have in his career? In his NHL career?
Starting point is 00:51:02 What does he look that up for? One. Yeah, one NHL point? I could have sworn it was. I thought it was sub 10, but I didn't think it was one. What did I got? You might be right, but.
Starting point is 00:51:19 NHL stats. I mean, what does that mean? He has one assist? He's got one goal, three assists, four points. Four points. Four points. Four points. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:30 Tampa Bay Lightning. The two brothers combined for 2,934 points. He had four. That is spectacular. But by the way, yeah, look. I mean, he played from 87 to 06. He finished off his career for the Motor City Mechanics and the UHL. He played for a team in Austria, the Pensacola Ice Pilots and the ECHL.
Starting point is 00:52:00 I mean, hockey leagues are all over the place. Yeah. That's my favorite with Merle's. Merle's. We got to have Merle's on a Monday episode next time he's in town. Merle's just kept moving east, he said. Yeah. Like on the globe? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:13 He finished his career in Japan. He's like, every year I got worse, I just moved east a little bit. Dude, Japan has hockey? Was he like the greatest player of all time over there? I think Merle's played a few years in Japan. I'm sure he did. I'm sure he did. I'm sure he dominated. Japanese guys can't play hockey?
Starting point is 00:52:29 That's hilarious. Japan. And then like, that's it. Like eventually you loop back around to fucking Vancouver. Yeah, you're like, I can't play for the Kings. I wonder, I wonder like, there had to be a run there with Emilio Estevez and Charlie Sheen where it was like, we know who dad loves the most. Yeah. But then it got flipped real quick.
Starting point is 00:52:53 What does Emilio do? Now? Yeah. I don't know. I mean, he was an actor. No, I know, but does he still act? I'm sure he's in some shit here and there. That surprises me.
Starting point is 00:53:03 Actually, I feel like we would have seen. Yeah. sure he's in some shit here and there that surprises me that like that actually i feel like we would have seen yeah because because this is such an era for like uh uh you know throwbacks and remakes and all that that like i'm surprised there hasn't been a mighty oh wait he might be no he might be in the mighty duck show there's a mighty duck show on disney plus he might be oh right okay yeah yeah to make it at least make an appearance right yeah i'm sure i would guess he does the whole fucking thing. I think he would want to. I wonder if Disney – I don't know. That show, that movie – and you can do this with anything. I actually saw on Instagram the other day like Gen Zers react to the plot of American Pie.
Starting point is 00:53:37 And they're all like, this is a crime. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But the premise of Mighty Ducks is still so funny. It's like a lawyer got a DUI and is punished because he coaches a youth team. Drives a fucking – Oh, by the way. He's in the show? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:53 Drives a goddamn car on the fucking ice right away. Most reckless asshole ever. But just like the judge – Community service children. That is a good idea. He should coach a youth team. I wonder what it was like when when he was like i'm gonna be emilio estevez guys and they were like okay we're gonna be white guys in hollywood yeah yeah good
Starting point is 00:54:10 luck with that dude see you fucking later time yeah um speaking of that there was a tweet the other day that cracked me up and led me down a very funny rabbit hole remember the ozone layer remember the hole in the ozone oh yeah we fixed it really like humans did it we like we like it's not like sealed but like we took steps and we did it and i saw this because there was a tweet of like a young gen x girl z whatever i don't know and she said how come women don't do their hair like this anymore and it was these pictures from like these 70s and 80s and shit where it's like big silly like but beautiful hair and because it used like so much fucking hairspray right and somebody replied they were like no joke the reason why and i don't know how true this is but the tweet said no joke
Starting point is 00:54:53 the reason why you don't see hair like this anymore is because the ozone and the kids and twitter and shit were like what the fuck does that mean they're like it was a hole and they told us you can't use airspray and i guess between like aerosol cans and whatever other steps we made as humans we did it i'm glad they fixed it because i'll tell you what i am ripping a new hole in it i just what are you doing for like three years straight my air condition has been oh yeah yeah so that that's that's where i get a little bit like the freons when i when i hear about climate change and all that shit, I'm like, well, I don't know, man. We fixed the ozone hole.
Starting point is 00:55:29 That was a big problem. We were told that was going to end the world. And then it just didn't. And apparently we fixed it. So, I don't know. Score one for the humans. Yeah. I'm kind of sick of everyone talking about how bad humans are for the earth and how we ruin everything.
Starting point is 00:55:44 And how all we do is take, take, take. And we're some parasites. I don't know. The one time that they came to us and said, this is a real fucking problem. And they showed it to us. They weren't just like, ah, we think it's a problem. Leonardo DiCaprio says so. And some chick from fucking Sweden says so on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:55:57 They were like, look, it's a problem. We fixed it. Yeah. So fuck you guys. We're like the human race. We're procrastinators. And we waited to the last minute to do homework. Cool warming college final yeah we'll get it we'll get to it you know okay comes to shove i'll pop some adderall clean my room and i'll figure it out we you know it's
Starting point is 00:56:12 like yes did like some cities like get whacked by hurricanes that never did before yes did was there a couple like you know cities that like wiped out by tidal waves maybe sure we have a hundred year storm every three months. Whatever. But it's not like we're going to fail. Midterms didn't go so well. When we're actually failing, when Manhattan floods, we'll figure it out. And if we can fix the ozone, we can fix the climate change as well.
Starting point is 00:56:39 We'll figure that shit out but yeah i i mean i have to imagine whatever we whatever cutting down on our aerosol can consumption did we're putting back out there by everything else that we do because i mean i leave that you think i got central air i got air conditioners like the earth i'm gonna stop being at that start of spring summer where you can do windows down and AC on. You think I'm going to stop doing that? That's one of the best times of the year. That's crazy time. One of the best.
Starting point is 00:57:09 Wait, no, I'm thinking the opposite. When windows down, heat on. That's the move. Yeah. Well, that's also just Manhattan. If you live in cities, the heat always blasts, so you're just sucking. You can't get away with it. No, I mean car.
Starting point is 00:57:21 Oh, you're doing car. Yeah. I love a cruise with the windows down. The air is just getting a little frost to it. So I guess it's more fall. I'm a big, my feet get cold. So I blast the heat down on my toes. But then I don't want the car hot.
Starting point is 00:57:36 Put those windows down. Let that shit melt out there. Come on. So I just think, or was the ozone hole do they sell us a bill of goods how do we really like who could really you know scientists told us right they also told us about vaccines and masks john we found out that they were lying about that who who who really knows what the ozone really even is? You know?
Starting point is 00:58:06 It's been a pleasure, Kevin. You know? I think we're going to figure it out right here. It was just like we heard so much about it. And then I guess they were just like, it's fixed. So we don't have to talk about it anymore. But you would think that they would have made, there should have been like ozone day. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:21 Like September 15th, 2005 or whatever the fuck what you know whatever and it was like we did it guys vhs day victory over hairspray day vhs day by the way shout out rhode island i think it's still the only state that celebrates vj day yeah yikes yeah that's a little it's a little that time we murdered 200 remember that time we murdered 200,000 people remember those war crimes take the day off from school remember when we committed a war crime and then did it again
Starting point is 00:58:49 doubled up on them remember when we melted the skin off a little children's fur that was pretty dope right remember when we went back to back on them pulled the little drake
Starting point is 00:58:58 back to back um the uh I forgot what I was gonna say but yeah oh I don't know why I was gonna say this yeah oh i don't know why i was gonna say this uh but i i've started watching love and death um it's okay really i had high hopes that it's just
Starting point is 00:59:14 really slow like i can see it as potential but it does just to be a woman's good three steps there have already been three in separate instances of a scene like this and it makes me laugh every fucking time like i think they're doing it on purpose i think they're being me to jesse plumbens okay like they will just be scenes like this and it oh it always just cuts the same hit play i know that we said that my love is against the rules really yo dude like they'll like close up on how like gorgeous elizabeth olsen is and then it just comes to him like eating a fucking canola he is gruesome here he is and i know he's like a great actor who like i think he's done lost weight gained weight done it all for the shows and shit but like i don't know i wouldn't i would be like no i'm not doing
Starting point is 01:00:10 that i'm not looking like that for this show i i refuse to be that person for this show he is i'm falling he's you literally fall in love with me there's like a rapper he's eating a cannoli in bed in a life beater and it's like i just can't get enough of you and that's every man it makes no sense what are you girls thinking half the time it's crazy it is so rare that a guy is hot enough for a girl he's with it never happened like like like like it's, you know, it's like the Brad Pitt's of the world. It's the gazelles. Otherwise it's like, you let that thing on top of you and inside of you regularly.
Starting point is 01:00:51 I've stopped a woman before I took off my shirt and she, cause she was like, Oh my God. And I was like, all right, you shut up. You're fucking with me. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:57 Come on. Don't be a fucking asshole. Yeah. Like, like, dude, bro, bro,
Starting point is 01:01:01 I have literally had women say to me before that they like my body. I'm like, no, you don't. Well, well great now trust out the window yeah i totally i was like now i question every single thing about you like i thought it was cool that you found me attractive then you said i had a great body and now i have to either question your intelligence yeah your faculties your intelligence your your honesty i question everything great or or when when like someone when a girl likes you and then they like say someone in hollywood that they like and they're like oh man i danny trejo is so hot i'm like well wait a minute with the pock marks really come on that that means wait what that that is a a tough scene um speaking of television will will and and and the younger
Starting point is 01:01:47 generation ties nicely together with both of those things that's why i brought it up i was trying to segue we got another writer's strike on our hands that um i don't think the i don't think this generation's ready for yeah i don't think they remember landry clark killing a guy on friday night lights just killed the guy and then they never talked of it again. Never. Because they were like, I don't know. Mind you, it wasn't a murder. It was a completely justified killing.
Starting point is 01:02:12 And his father was a sheriff and he could have just called him and said. It was a just killing. Dad, I've stopped a rape and the guy died. And we're in Texas. Can you come? We can figure this out. Pick up his body, I guess. Yeah, throw it in the fucking river and just never talk about this again.
Starting point is 01:02:28 Landry Clark killing the guy is the one that gets the attention from season two. What's his name? Mexican kid. Tight end. Santiago. Santiago. Yeah. Santiago just comes and goes.
Starting point is 01:02:42 That storyline. I'll give Friday Night Lights credit for they're one of the only shows, and it's realistic because sports teams change over. The rosters change over. Yeah. But by the end of it, you're rooting for fucking another Dylan Panthers team and the black quarterback, Michael B. Jordan, right? Yeah, I was going to say.
Starting point is 01:03:04 It's like you know you would you would think to yourself like you need jason street and reagan's and then it's like all right well i got sarah and then it just keeps going but then santiago was crazy yeah buddy gary just smuggled catch a pig didn't didn't buddy gary just like smuggle him in from fucking south south america or something like that it was it was like an immigration yeah like uh issue right big house yeah yeah uh but that yeah that was like an immigration issue, right? Yeah. But that was like the writers being like, we got to finish this by midnight.
Starting point is 01:03:32 Was Voodoo Tatum season two too? Yeah. Yeah. They were just like, we got to finish this by midnight. So he kills a rapist? Okay, sounds good. Season four of Lost, which was like the best season, got fucking axed in the middle of it. I don't think – I don't believe that this is going to be from what I've read, which isn't much.
Starting point is 01:03:51 But the – A long one? I think it's not going to be quick. I think – Oh, it's going to be – it is going to be long. Yeah. Yeah, because think about it. I think they said like come September, people will start really feeling it.
Starting point is 01:04:00 I think – It's a long the think about how much has changed in television and if writers pay has not like been adjusting accordingly with streaming and all these services and all that shit it's crazy their last strike was for streaming it was not no they haven't been getting like that's what i mean dude stream streaming you just get paid like it's like i think it's like 5500 for like the writers group or whatever it is there's just like a number and that's it yeah and so you write a you write a hit series for streaming that gets you know a billion netflix signups and it's just like doesn't matter you don't get anything extra
Starting point is 01:04:36 the uh and i'm sure they're like honestly it's actually gonna to be very interesting. I'm sure there is some level of AI going on as well. I think studios are probably thinking that you'll be able to do automated writing soon enough. I think that's crazy. I think if you tell people robots are like this, I don't think they'll be as interested. I don't know if you tell them, but I think it's a great show. I don't know. Just fucking name your AI a fucking person's name. You know?
Starting point is 01:05:08 I think that will get found. I think the actors will be like. I don't know, man. I'm sure they said the same shit about, like, animation. I'm sure they were like, you need, like, an artist to draw this. And it's like, no, you don't. You know? But there's still an artist in animation.
Starting point is 01:05:18 I guess. I don't know. I mean, I feel like a lot of that's, like, probably automated and jobbed out. And the computer does a lot of it. And I'm sure there's someone controlling it. But I'm sure it's like – there ain't people just drawing cartoons anymore. I'm sure that was a big deal. There are, but it's not – Like someone didn't draw?
Starting point is 01:05:33 I think – I don't know. There's no reason to debate it. I don't know the answer. But the – I think if it lacks the human element, I don't think people would be as interested. I mean what if it just – if that was just like the standard and it was just like this is all television? It's not like you're just going to stop watching TV. I also don't think we – I think this is probably down the road. I don't think it's happening now.
Starting point is 01:05:55 But I wonder if that's part of it too where they're just like – I also think they're – So between streaming and just like how much shit is being put out i think between how much talent you use that word however you want like there used to be like a batch of hollywood writers i'm sure there are like brilliant people out there who are like you know we can we can replace you guys we can find i don't i think there probably was a time where finding a non-union writer was a lot harder. Yeah. And I'm sure there's still like – I don't think studios and producers will work with non-union people because then you're really like – then it's like you can never go back. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:06:35 That's like beyond the point of no return. But if you found somebody like on the internet, you find one of these TikTok stars or whatever who's like brilliant and it's like – I literally just did a sketch about this. Oh, yeah? Did you? Out of Order episode three comes out next week we have a sketch of somebody trying to be like a writer and they suck yeah but i'm sure that's what they're trying to do and so i'm sure they're like we'll go find somebody so it's exactly this that's i mean could not be better timing
Starting point is 01:07:01 did you was because of the strike or you just had an idea? We had the idea anyway. Because I didn't hear about this strike. I didn't really know it was coming. I heard whispers and then midnight. And then it was just like, boom. We're on strike. Yeah, I feel like I would have heard of this for months. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:16 It was one of those procrastinations. We'll figure it out. We'll figure it out. Oh, we'll figure it out. Because in sports, when there's a labor problem, you hear about that shit like it's like full season yeah it's coming this was just like uh as somebody like watches tv a lot i was kind of like wait what we're gonna lose all our television but i think between no diplomats the the um all the streaming any potential ai the first all the different was just about clips on youtube that's what they were
Starting point is 01:07:45 that's there's so much more to worry about so if they if they if it took 100 days to hammer out like one issue there's like 50 bro you have to sign one year contracts like it's crazy or like like you like we have a one-year deal because everything's gonna change in a year it changes so fast now like you can't do it was it you can't do another 10-year deal it's gonna be completely i also think the first go-round was kind of, I think, a big rise of reality TV because they just turned to people who were not writers. And that was when the world needed to be shown that reality TV was a thing that they like. The world has already bought into reality TV. Right.
Starting point is 01:08:22 So I'm sure there are a ton of executives being like, I'll do Love is Blind season 65 and I'll get my ratings. We'll give them 50 bucks and a fuck off. Yeah, we'll give them a couple thousand followers and they're happy. So like peace. Not that I'm saying I side with them. I'm just saying that those are probably their standing points where they're just like, this is the world now. So there really is – I mean I would imagine eventually some sort of supply and demand shit. But it's also like – I think it's just best age for television because there are all those popular reality shows.
Starting point is 01:08:53 It's also the best TV has ever been. Yeah. And the most TV has ever been watched. Right. Iconic shows and stuff like that. I mean, the mere fact that it's just like you're making tens of millions of dollars on your streaming service and these are the people that created so fucking
Starting point is 01:09:09 pay them it's very simple someone had all the CEOs made last year you can do it with every company but it was like every CEO of every streaming service made like 50 million last year the one at Discovery has a 300 million dollar package it's a lot of stock
Starting point is 01:09:24 his salary, that was a little misleading, but I respect what the writers are doing there. They put at the top, first of all, Discovery is like, I think that's Warner Brothers Discovery is the merger or whatever. HBO too. Oh, okay. So that's bad. That should be like HBO.
Starting point is 01:09:39 You know what I mean? I was like, Discovery. Who the fuck gives a shit about that? But his salary is $4 million, and then he has a fuck ton of stock and bonuses so you know which may or may not be realized you know so um but yeah it's like i'm sure those writers would love 100 million dollars in stock take that too then you can you know you can offer me that and it doesn't need to be salary uh but the i i i'm sure like it is crazy too the – what they do to writers.
Starting point is 01:10:07 I was reading the – it was just a clip from an interview with the director of Ghosted. And he wasn't complaining really. He was kind of just saying – What's Ghosted? That Anna De Armas, Chris Pratt – not Chris Pratt. OK. Chris Evans won. I did not think it was very good i
Starting point is 01:10:25 haven't seen it but i don't i mean those streaming services don't really produce good movies like it is it's terrible i was like this is what your guys are doing with the writers what are you gonna do without the writers but it was like he's describing how he like had a start with like some like five minute iconic opener that it was like resembled some other iconic movie and they were just like like now you can't do that it doesn't play it won't play on tiktok if it like if you have to have you have like 30 seconds to get to the action and he was like well he's like he's like so i want people to watch my movie so i just got rid of that yeah no i mean that's where i i wonder what happens to the whole system because that's where i wonder like if there's gonna be a writer's
Starting point is 01:11:12 guild and you're a part of that union and then that union plays ball like you know those guys and because i you know i'm sure the union the union is like the the the good guys right but i'm sure there's like union heads there who are fucking like tv studio scumbags as well you know what i mean and if though if if the writers are in bed with the executives and the executives are the ones telling you to just like make uh make it be like dog shit that people watch then like do people just not use the union and you just have like you have independent projects you know like what we've seen i think the whole world has moved away from music labels and all that sort of shit where it's like if you just have talented people who are just like i'm gonna make the movie the way i want it
Starting point is 01:11:56 and i found someone on the internet with money and talent who can bankroll it whatever do we even need unions and executives and studios and all that shit i mean yeah you know the obvious answer is probably still at this point yes but it's like i think more now more than ever you can probably circumvent both of those things yeah a writer's union and a studio i think are becoming less and less necessary yeah i still i still think with movies i think the distribution becomes a big thing like i mean one of my favorite comics jan day caster has a special on vimeo and i still haven't watched it because i'm not gonna watch right right because you just need to be on the major channels but
Starting point is 01:12:34 if it comes down to a strike and like you know egos and crazy terms that you're you're worlds apart i wonder how many people would like if you went if there was a talented person on the internet and they went to you and were like all right we'll just do it with you would people like respect the writers union enough to be like i can't like cross the union yeah i don't think i think a lot i think i think if you i think i think if like a studio went to like a random person and was like, who, like somebody who would never. Oh, Oh, Oh,
Starting point is 01:13:06 someone who's never had anything needs money. Yeah. I'm thinking, I was thinking you meant like actors who. No, no, no. Like,
Starting point is 01:13:11 like I'm saying, you know, we just have a proliferation of people you can find on the internet. Now we'll have a big following. People find them funny, all that shit. And it's just like, okay,
Starting point is 01:13:19 we're going to go with this person now who was a fucking accountant a minute ago. And now it was like, okay, I'll do it for $10 million or $5 million or $50,000 or $500 or whatever. You know, gonna go with this person now who was a fucking accountant a minute ago and now is like okay i'll do it for 10 million dollars or five million dollars or 50 000 or 500 or whatever you know i think i think what would come of that if it happened is you'd find one or two incredibly unique and actually good things and then you'd find 100 000 pieces of shit and you'd be like yeah but i i almost feel like that's where like the world's at right now with the unions and the studios it's like it's mostly garbage and a couple good things so it's like we're already it's already
Starting point is 01:13:51 shitty i mean the world if you think about it the world has already been complaining about its remakes and marvel movies and you know but that's not writers that's production you know this is all we're making because this is what makes money right but that's you know where it's not like we were are uh in some like golden era of writing where they can be like we hold all the power it's like we already have not been using your writing yeah you know we've already said we don't need in-depth writing we need like fucking bells and whistles for 30 seconds on tiktok and so it's like i'm sure these guys are like we don't i don't know we don't need you i yeah i i guess i wonder i i wonder if
Starting point is 01:14:32 what do you think the most missed show will be if it doesn't continue to air probably game of thrones like success is ending so that's the probably i mean like let's get let's get succession um yeah but even that i don't know it's like there's not one that when when you when you run through the list of 07 of all the shows that were affected and some of that's a little bit like like one of the things that were like season two of breaking bad was altered it's like it didn't. It was altered. It changed.
Starting point is 01:15:06 It wasn't like ruined or anything. I think they said Scrubs, the final seasons of Scrubs were. Season of Scrubs is tough. But they so they like axed it on NBC, but then ABC picked it up. And I think they just did it anyway or something like that. So it's like some of those things are like it was delayed or changed but it's not necessarily as it was just it was it was more that the you know who really got fucking hammered by the late night people because all of them except for conan got exposed
Starting point is 01:15:37 as like you're not funny without your writers you can't do shit without your writers i saw the clip the other day conan would just spin his wedding the best the best i do remember that i don't i never i never watched uh that was funny like that is kind of interesting though because that was almost like a look into the future where it was like you know is like a late night monologue with like a funny or is like conan trying to spin his ring and getting excited about it fun like that but that's funny because of the circumstances but i'm saying like that that is the more you know that was almost like what was going on during the pandemic and shit where it was like weird zany shit that regular people are doing and you find well i also think that you find humor and
Starting point is 01:16:20 entertainment in those in those things that you know that's born of that gets tiring very fast like the eventually you're like all right trick shots are fucking even in the pandemic i think the the main one was that like people started doing like feel good shows again because like everyone was down and that shit got boring real fast i was like fuck ted lasso but ted lasso season three is maybe the worst television I've ever watched I think I watched one episode I can't believe I looked up to this man Bro people love conflict and shit
Starting point is 01:16:52 You were down deep when you were like Ted Lasso He gets the boss biscuits It's funny You know how down bad we were We were like a fucking show And I still like I'm never going to rewatch it but in the moment I loved Ted Lasso And I still like, I mean, I'm never going to rewatch it, but in the moment, I love Dead Lasso. And
Starting point is 01:17:07 we were like, this show based on the premise of an NBC sports commercial is the greatest thing I've ever seen. That's also the perfect example of things that should just be one season or
Starting point is 01:17:23 even like just a goddamn movie or something. You know what I mean? It's always when they try to stretch it. And that's actually part of the negotiations all the time is how many episodes things need to be. I will say the one thing that I think I'm firmly on the side of the writers, the one thing I think I've always thought was crazy crazy and it sounds like this is part of the new the new thing is about like what makes it to pilot and what doesn't and like the writers are complaining that the studios i think this is all just from like a couple articles so i don't know if i have all the specifics correct but it used to be like you have an idea and some guys write a script and then you have a pilot and you go.
Starting point is 01:18:07 And now studio execs want like two or three more scripts to prove that it's a hit. That sounds okay to me. Like the amount of shit that we've heard over the years from comics and writers coming in here being like, oh, I wrote like a script and they gave me like a huge advance and then it just disappeared. Yeah. Like I would probably put an end to that if I was the studios like we're not doing that anymore that's crazy we're just handing out shows that we never do and we gave you a million dollars and you a million dollars and then we just flush it all down the toilet we're gonna stop doing that i don't think that's crazy i think you should have to write more than like one episode before something a whole series gets
Starting point is 01:18:40 greenlit yeah i would agree with that i i also think if you don't make it they i i and i have no idea what the rules are about anything but like if you don't make it then i get it back yeah it's an event yeah it's like a an advance you can spend it if you want but this money if we don't make it to season two or whatever we don't hit a certain rating or some shit but i'm sure that's you know all the kind of shit these people are arguing over i just you know if it took a long time back then when life was simple yeah i would imagine i mean and life was uh like pretty pretty like cohesive and people like i mean everybody's at odds over everything now you're telling me that like like politics is not
Starting point is 01:19:19 heavy involved in big wig studios and like liberal writers and shit like that like there i don't think this is ending like ever so if if oh if oh seven gave the rise to like reality tv you know buckle up for like tiktok shows and shit like that shit that's gonna be real garbage i will not unbuckle i will i will not buckle up i will unbuckle and i will drive off a cliff like there is reality tv show that has you know it's all trashy but there's like some good ideas and some good hosts and you find a couple you know there's like the reality tv show like legends who are like you know johnny bananas and the people you remember you know and then there's like the garbage of it and like what's what's like a step down from that? Well, that's going to be not excited to find out,
Starting point is 01:20:07 but it's like, I'm sure there'll be people like, I don't know. There were people turn, turn to reality TV show and like it, you know? So if you turn to like, turn to podcast,
Starting point is 01:20:16 if yeah, please, I'm sure like, you know, they're going to go to Alex Earl and be like, you want to show? Here you go. It's like,
Starting point is 01:20:23 I hope, I don't know. Can that girl carry a fucking television show? I mean, they tried that with the D'Amelios, right? That didn't work. Yeah, but if it's the only thing on television, you know, it's like the only thing people can watch. Well, I guess that's the thing. I'll just watch old shows. I guess
Starting point is 01:20:36 at the time, you really... And we won't get any money for it. I guess at the time you couldn't really... I think DVDs were a part of that last one, too. Because I think that was part of it, is like people are starting to watch old DVDsds and we should you know we should get money for that so i think that was 07 as well but now that you can just watch old things maybe it'll just be like i don't know that that would scare me if i was a writer i'd be like like we're gonna strike we're not gonna make anything new it's like i don't know anybody who watches anything new anyway
Starting point is 01:21:02 they're just gonna keep watching the office that's all they do anyway so i don't know who do you think wins right you think so yeah like they'll get what they want i mean there's like any negotiation but i think the writers will get a lot more money yeah and you think they'll be like it'll be like a loss for the like what when the last one settled, who was considered the winner? I haven't been. I would guess writers. Because you wouldn't go back unless you were happy with it. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:35 It's a negotiation. That's what I mean. If you ask for 100 and I say 42 and you take that, it's like you know we came out ahead of that you know what i mean so like unless it's like a straight 50 50 split like meet you halfway somebody's gonna come out ahead and i wonder who has the power like in today's society it'll be very interesting to see because i wonder if it's like i think we've been seeing you know more and more that the talent, people are kind of what drives things, but to do infinite money and egos and famous people
Starting point is 01:22:10 just always end up winning. I think the writers will win because the actors are on their side. Yeah. It is crazy that they... The Actors Guild goes on strike June 30th. Sam Murrell had a good tweet where he's like,
Starting point is 01:22:25 actors ain't shit, writers are everything. They're child actors, there are no child writers. But yeah, it's like, I guess as soon as executives start to lose money is when they start to change their tune, right? And I wonder how long that takes because if people, it it's like are you gonna like uh stop paying your subscriptions probably not right so i'm thinking about bailing on netflix i got nothing on netflix anymore i don't watch netflix ever i still got love is blind netflix netflix is doing fine as long as they got a couple of those they'll be be fine. I don't think anybody will...
Starting point is 01:23:05 I'm not actually going to do it because it's like $10 a month. Yeah. So that's what's interesting, though, because when there's no new TV, if you're not putting on the television, you're not getting advertising and shit, they probably lost money. But people will just continue to pay their subscriptions and watch old stuff. They'll probably be like, I don't know. Maybe we're not getting as many new new subscriptions but we're good yeah and then
Starting point is 01:23:28 then what i don't know i would be scared i i like i if i was a writer i'd be looking to the union reps being like are we sure about this is this gonna work i i think again you have the actors like you have you have the face of Hollywood. They were – their writing, their, I guess, average salary or whatever went down 4%. Yeah. And that was not adjusting for inflation. So when you adjust it for inflation, it's down like 23%. How the fuck they ever let it go down in the first place is crazy yeah that'd be like if also if all of a sudden baseball players and basketball players
Starting point is 01:24:09 making less money like what were their union reps doing when that happened that's why you can't do 10-year deals you have to do one of your deals yeah like like never yeah like never anything long term like that because to lose money in this era of entertainment is like people like us are getting paid. It's crazy. So talented people, hopefully they make a, make a much better deal because that shit is about as,
Starting point is 01:24:35 uh, unfriendly as a talent deal is like exists right now. So fuck the studios. I wonder if, uh, if there is something that like people will do, but I don't, I don't foresee that.
Starting point is 01:24:45 Do you think consumers would, if writers and actors said, cancel your subscriptions? No, I saw one tweet that was like, it was a writer. He was like, dude, no, we're home watching TV too. Watch TV. Because it was like, are we supposed to stop watching? He was like, no, watch TV. Right. Am I the asshole?
Starting point is 01:25:05 Let's get into it. We got a couple from our card game on sale now. We got 500 of the biggest asshole scenarios from our personal experiences, from the viral ones on the internet, from the minds, the deranged minds of everyone on KFC Radio. We made up a bunch. There's also a different gameplay. You can sit down and play with your friends and you can win can win tokens and there's we just sat down and played it for a commercial and i was like oh shit this is really fun we played our own game and when we did it i was like fuck this is fun so i just grabbed two more because i can't find the ones we just did so
Starting point is 01:25:38 um let's begin i remember this one i snuck micro doses of edibles into the food at a party because everyone said they wanted to try it but everyone was too scared to actually do it that one is straight from the finalberg uh i am protein poison your friends clearly you are you did it i read it in like a 1970s housewives how to have a good party thing once. Sneak your guess. It was just put extra alcohol in the juice. Honestly, if you think about life, put extra alcohol in the juice. Here's the fucking
Starting point is 01:26:16 virgin fruit bowl. Punch bowl. Guess what? It's not virgin. And guess what? We're all going to have a lot more fucking fun. Here's this brownie. There's also... Two hours later, you're going to be playing Mario Kart and screaming the noises.
Starting point is 01:26:31 In my story, no one else ate it. And I just kept eating it to prove that it was fine. When you look like me, people are like, you definitely fucking poisoned this. Let me tell you something. If somebody walks up to you nowadays with a gummy or a brownie and says, eat this, you go, that's gross.
Starting point is 01:26:46 It was banana bread. But I just ate four slices of laced banana bread. That'll do it. And was just running around the apartment like it was Mario Kart. I think you were making the star noise. Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was, I had a great. Shut the fuck up. I was slamming cabinets. I don yeah, yeah. It was, uh, I had a great time.
Starting point is 01:27:05 Shut the fuck up! I was slamming cabinets, I don't know why. Not like angrily, just like ba-bom, ba-bom, ba-bom. Peaches! Yeah, you're definitively an asshole. I don't think so. I mean, I think I'm an asshole because they didn't eat it.
Starting point is 01:27:21 They're the assholes for not eating it, thus making me an asshole. Because if they were doing everything along with you, and they were just for not eating it, thus making me an asshole. Because if they were doing everything along with you, and they were just cool and eating it, no one's an asshole. It was like 4 a.m. If only one person does drugs, he's the asshole. If everybody does drugs, nobody's the asshole. That's right. Wise words, like Confucius says.
Starting point is 01:27:41 I'm going to sneak in, am I the asshole? I'm not the asshole right now, because I feel like I should have addressed it earlier. Whatever. Ponytail. You're an asshole. You've got to cut it. I'm cutting it tomorrow. You've got to take the convertible for a ride before the winter comes. I hear you.
Starting point is 01:27:59 It's one of those things. It actually does not look bad. It's just your whole existence. The clothes that should look bad don't. The hair, you should be gross and sweaty, and you should be hairy. You're not – you know what I mean? All these things are just like, nope, that's not for him. It doesn't look bad. You'll look back on it and go, why didn't anybody tell me?
Starting point is 01:28:16 You know what the problem is? It's not the ponytail. It's these things. Right. These are super – I do, and I tried to do the ponytail like three times, and it keeps falling. It's just not long enough. Those don't fall.
Starting point is 01:28:25 You need like hair clips like a chick. Yeah. Put the ponytail on the back and the clips on the side. Those look very Jewish, like the guys with the curls on the side. Because they also hook around, so it looks like you're almost doing it intentionally. Is that guy wearing hair hooks or something? I am. I'm trying to put it behind my ear.
Starting point is 01:28:38 Yeah. And that's the other thing. Doing this, by the way, asshole. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you're not seeing this guy, nobody likes you. I'm going to try and find this picture. There's no chance I'm able to find it too bro but the i took a picture like after i got a shower one morning yeah oh no i did find i found pretty quick like this just happened after i got out of the
Starting point is 01:28:54 shower that's the most jewish thing yeah no that's super jew i mean a guy named feidelberg with that curly hair super jew that was crazy yeah that was like a piece of i don't know what kind of pasta is that but like a few silly or don't know what kind of pasta is that but like a few silly or something we just kind of we pull it it's a jerry girl yeah yeah yeah you look like you have a jerry girl i got but yeah it's off as you watch this right now it's getting cut off that's like that's long for me um but yeah the the you know once i heard we we talked about the live show you didn't say it on the air once I heard
Starting point is 01:29:26 about the neck situation yeah but it's not that bad anymore don't you show me your neck don't you do it because I don't
Starting point is 01:29:31 want to look at your pimply neck is that a birthmark oh yeah you know about the Fodderberg tornado Fodderberg tornado
Starting point is 01:29:37 all the men have it I think I do really yeah we all have this red birthmark in the same spot get the fuck out that's wildly
Starting point is 01:29:44 interesting really that was very genuine because obviously it's genetic Yeah, we all have this red birthmark. In the same spot. Yeah. Get the fuck out. Yeah. That's wildly interesting. Really? That was very genuine. Because obviously it's genetic, but I would think like, oh, our skin gets birthmarks or something like that. The same spot. Same. We all have this triangle in the back of our necks.
Starting point is 01:29:57 You sure that your dad didn't just brand you kids or something? Because that seems a little weird. It's just the men. Again. We had a Spartan type thing. Like, all right, this one's good. Your dad did something stupid one night and was like, well, if I have this, they're all going to have it.
Starting point is 01:30:12 Burning little babies. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I have seen it. Now that I think about it, I just didn't think, I don't know, his neck's hot or he's flush or something like that. But now that I think of, like, in summertime, like, T-shirts, I've definitely seen it.
Starting point is 01:30:24 But, no, I mean, once you said you had pimples on your neck. I had this one massive pimple. Again, you can look at my neck. It's not that bad. It's still a little bump over here. But it wasn't. I was playing it up a bit. It wasn't covered in pimples,
Starting point is 01:30:37 but I had a pimple on the back of my neck. Let me ask you a question. Disgusting question. You know how I like to watch that shit, right? Yeah. How gross and how bad of a move is it To do content with that Oh god Fucking animal I'm sure it's great
Starting point is 01:30:53 That's the thing Like there's this guy who does it And he's funny with it All he does is like narrate it He's just like oh shit that's a big one girl Oh you gotta And he just like crushes, shit, that's a big one, girl. Oh, you got to pop. And he just crushed me. He's just like a duet or whatever.
Starting point is 01:31:07 You're not black, though. I know. That's the thing. So it would not be funny if I did it that way. But if you were a pervert, you would do that. Yes. Yeah. That's the thing.
Starting point is 01:31:16 It's very creepy. A white guy just like, if I just breathe heavily, I'm like, I'm going to be horrible. No, but what it is, what is, I i think possible is when the people who like those type of videos we all do the same sort of shit and if you like read the comments of it it's funny like you get very tense like i will flex like all my muscles and like i'm like my tongue's on the roof of my mouth and i'm like pushing into the ground wanting them to like do it and then when it happens you like you're like you relax and comments would be like
Starting point is 01:31:50 you know like like this if you were like tense at this moment wherever so I think if you people millions of people watch those things and then if you're like the guy who like is relatable about it to the people who watch it but then I I just have like, my timeline looks gross. I have thumbnails of me and like, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. It's disgusting. I fully recognize it's disgusting. I also love it and I watch it every goddamn night.
Starting point is 01:32:16 But it's, you know, like, how about this? How much money for you to be like the pimple guy? To be known as that guy? Because it's not like you have pimples. It's like you're you're one dollar more than i make okay all right that's kind of what i'm asking like like it's it's it's not the most prestigious of jobs yeah but it's not like you're you're the gross one you're just like i don't know i have a weird i have a weird proclivity for this like a million other people do and now i make money because it's like if i watch it every night maybe just make some money yeah yeah i'll block you but uh well that's what i can't
Starting point is 01:32:51 i can't i'd have to have like a separate account because i i understand you can't just bombard you can't just oh i follow you for one minute man and now you're sneaking gross pimples yeah like i get that so i'd have to like start a whole new thing i don't know i got i got to find out how many people you know i don't know if I got to find out how many people... I don't know if Barstool people are into it or if it's another corner of the internet, the weirdos who like that shit. But if you like that sort of content,
Starting point is 01:33:12 I don't know. Reach out to me. I intentionally messed up a tattoo for a client who wanted a racist symbol. In this scenario, I understand that you're doing doing some like racist vigilante shit i don't know man i paid you to draw a picture draw the picture put the fucking swastika on me you know what i mean it means not fucking welcome right derrick vineyard gets a lot of shine on this
Starting point is 01:33:37 show we talk about that so often so often um like the like okay if I ask for a swastika, okay, no. If I ask for a picture of Auschwitz, no. If I ask for... If you want a Confederate flag. Yeah. If some hillbilly... Well, history, not hate. Yeah, if some hillbilly asks for the Confederate flag, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:33:59 Give him the fucking Confederate flag. Yeah, like I said. It's not history. It's not. It's what Ole Miss is about. It's a rebel yell. It's the Dixie. Yeah. Mason's not history. It's not. This is what Ole Miss is about. It's a rebel yell. Dixie.
Starting point is 01:34:06 Yeah. Mason Dixon line. What's the big deal? Like, what are other... What's an oak? Would you know? What's a not-so-bad racist? Okay, hang on. Wait, wait, wait.
Starting point is 01:34:14 Okay. Pretend you're in the ink shop, right? Let me get the pen out real quick. You're going to draw a swastika on me? I'm going to draw something. I'm going to see if you can tell. And it's going to be racist? Well, first of all, just so you're – I'm not going to actually draw it.
Starting point is 01:34:26 Oh, okay. But the – I was fully prepared. I was like, you're going to draw a swastika on me. Here's the thing. There's not that many things. Yeah. It's the swastika.
Starting point is 01:34:38 It's the Confederate flag. Okay, how about this? I don't it was a circle uh huh like something in the middle yeah like dot dot dot dot dot yeah
Starting point is 01:34:55 what's that it was a Hitler mustache with a smiley face oh wouldn't have known yeah see I was on my back I would have been like
Starting point is 01:35:03 cool man he put like my mom's face on me or whatever. He's like, don't put a fucking Hitler stache on me. A little Hitler stache for the boy. A Hitler stache. The big circle was the oval face. The ceiling in the middle was the nose. And under it, I put the mustache.
Starting point is 01:35:16 And then I put his smiley face. I think if someone comes in and says, can you put, I need a portrait done, and it happens to have a little stache like that, you've got to do it. Yeah. It's Michael Jordan and the You got to do it. Yeah. It's Michael Jordan and the Hanes commercial. Right. Yeah, come on. This is not Hitler.
Starting point is 01:35:30 It's just a guy with a tiny mustache. We had $160 million on Jordan 1. Pretty good. Got to honor him somehow. Let's do it. I got one more. My buddy texted me this. Am I the asshole?
Starting point is 01:35:44 My buddy, he was. Am I the asshole? My buddy, he said that his friend does really lovey-dovey content on his social media. He's like, I just can't do it. Send it to Paz. We'll put it on the big screen. Okay. Hang on a sec. I don't think that we have. Well, I'll just send it. Yeah. we'll put it on the big screen I don't think that we have well I'll just send it
Starting point is 01:36:08 I'll figure it out I think it might have sent it to your computer no it sent it to your phone I think if you do you know it's a fine line with the lovey stuff it's like you know look how ready he is right now well we were gonna do it at all three shows he would have he would have crawled into a hole and died
Starting point is 01:36:39 if he's this red now and we did that at the live show oh my god you guys held that in all week dude we kept we did that at the live show? Oh, my God. You guys held that in all week. Dude, we kept trying to shorten the show so we could get – It was like the one segment. It's funny, but it wasn't like the best. It was like we're at an hour and a half every show. We got to cut something. And it was always that one.
Starting point is 01:36:57 For those who don't know, Pavs had a video on his Instagram and it's him and his girlfriend being cute as hell. I was just showing off a fit. She just happened to be in the video. Oh yeah, bro. I don't love my girlfriend. She just happens to be hugging and kissing me in the videos. It wasn't my idea.
Starting point is 01:37:18 Well, here's what I want to say. Don't stop. Keep doing... This is another thing the internet ruined the internet ruined the internet because back in the day when it was just like like the internet became everyone's account became like a brand account everyone has their personal brand everyone is like creating an aesthetic and all that shit. Just put whatever nonsense you want up there. And that's the best way.
Starting point is 01:37:49 That's how the internet's supposed to be used. It's supposed to be, you be my Romeo, I'll be your Juliet. Like you fucking tap your toes, whatever you do. Dude, the internet was so much better back when. I don't know, put on your girlfriend's dress. Kiss her on the lips in front of everybody. No big deal. Like back in the day, the internet ruined everything.
Starting point is 01:38:12 I'm going to say it all the time because it did ruin everything, and it's going to sound like an old man yelling in the clouds, and I don't care. Like when Facebook was popping. Again, before everything became like someone trying to have their grid right. It was before somebody made money off it. Exactly. once a girl posed a certain way and made money every girl thought i'll put on like leather pants and pop my ass and it's like you're you're just a regular person why are you doing taking pictures like that why yeah like dude every picture is so
Starting point is 01:38:39 like yeah bro do you when i loved the internet when i loved, like I'd come home. I'd wake up Sunday morning. I'd get like a bacon, egg, and cheese. I'd cut on Facebook, and it would be 93 blurry pictures where I'd be like, that was – that's not a good – People would go out for a night. Think about how curated your Instagram feed is now. You would go out for one night, and people would post 100 photos. 100? 100? 100. Every comment under it was just either gassing each other up. you would go out for one night and people would post a hundred 100 100
Starting point is 01:39:06 every comment under it was just either gassing each other up or or just like fucking complete nonsense that you don't remember and it was like oh fuck I knew Scooby Doo Scooby Doo
Starting point is 01:39:21 that was when the internet was fucking jammed and now everyone's got their fucking perfect little manicured shit it's like anything else once something become when something's around long enough for there to be a cool and not cool of it yeah is when it's ruined and in the beginning we didn't know what was cool and what wasn't cool. So you just did shit. You were just yourself. And then eventually, you know, what's cool is like hot chicks and fucking like dance moves and whatever. It's like, that's cool. And this is not. In the beginning, it was like, I don't know. I'm just going to like put the pictures of, you know, me and my girlfriend.
Starting point is 01:39:55 To use a post on your buddy's wall, like a 10 paragraph thing. What's up, fuckwad? Yeah. Oh my God. You get home, you read it, you're so jacked up. Like Facebook notification. Fuck yeah. The wall.
Starting point is 01:40:03 The Facebook wall. Was just people trying to be funny and not being funny. It was glorious. It was an open mic night. It was just like, I'm going to put a Ron Burgundy quote on my friend's wall. It's so funny, man. God, it was the best. It was awesome. Now, the moment you get a job here, you start working to have this perfect internet presence.
Starting point is 01:40:25 And the best internet presence is an imperfect internet presence. It is bars. I mean, I'll give him credit for posting it. It's insane. It's insane. Don't. If you're working here to post that, it's crazy. It's crazy.
Starting point is 01:40:39 But now you have to. Take us back. Now you have to. If I don't see another one within a week, I'm going to be mad. I see him all the time now. What's the song? Sing us a song real quick. The Tomioka song?
Starting point is 01:40:52 Yeah. Wait, was that why Colleen? Is that why you suggested to do that? I don't know the lyrics. It's definitely a Romeo and Juliet reference. It was great. I'll check. I'll check real quick.
Starting point is 01:41:02 The foot up front. The hug at the end. I foot up front the ALDs bro i can see this song playing when i check my buddy's myspace page hell yeah dude that's right you know that html code that is the internet ruin being the internet for sure. It all comes full circle. All right, voicemails, what do we got? Voicemails are brought to you by Pirate Water. I'm going to do the whole ad read.
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Starting point is 01:42:43 So I have a fun fact per John's request for fun facts. And it's about when William the Conqueror died. He's the homie who invaded England in 1066 and created the monarchy as we currently know it. So he dies in like spring, summer, sometime along there. And a huge heat wave like rips across England. So while he's laying in state in most likely Westminster Abbey, let's just assume, and his body's decomposing and it's producing all this gas, as one does when they decompose,
Starting point is 01:43:12 it's creating this really noxious environment and then his corpse exploded on funeral goers. Perfect. That's an awesome fun fact. William the Con conqueror exploded on people yo we we went to the uh the funeral museum in in in houston and all weekend all week on tour we
Starting point is 01:43:33 talked all about what was the name and embalming and and uh 20 day funerals and sarah and and uh how they used to just fill them up with cum and all this stuff. And Sarah comes in perfectly with the William the Conqueror exploded. Because, yeah, I think you just fill up with air or whatever, right? So Sarah, again, that's exactly what I wanted. William the Conqueror blew up on people. But the – his body was laying in state does that mean like like is that when a body laid in state
Starting point is 01:44:08 back then obviously it wasn't a shrine or anything I think that means for people to come see but it's just an open air uh it sounds like it it sounds like usually like what they do yeah you're on top of like a block of like marble now like the pope I think right that yeah but you're not you're not in a casket or anything like that
Starting point is 01:44:23 I think so like do modern caskets prevent that or do people just explode once you put them underground i think we embalm them we you drain all the liquid you drain all the all that all that all that mortician stuff is what does it yeah okay i would imagine yeah maybe maybe they're like just get this shit underground a little pop yeah that would be great bro that i i wanted to be cremated i might have bodies for like dna and stuff and it would just be a mess can i put that can i put that into my living will you you don't want to be involved i don't want you want to be you want to explode yeah bro bro your living body is disgusting your dead body waiting for it to explode has got to be like there are no laws
Starting point is 01:45:04 preventing that right i can just explode if I want to? Um, I wonder if, I know, because there is laws, and I always thought this was funny, like, if you bury a body, you get hit with, like, unlawful disposal of a body. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I do think if you... No, you can do the funeral thing, I'll leave you 10k, get the casket,
Starting point is 01:45:20 and then, like, don't touch me anymore. And just let me be. Because I am an organ donor. That's an important part of my life. I accidentally checked the box. Can't go back now. Bro, could you imagine someone being like, I'm on my deathbed, and the doctor's like, we've got a match.
Starting point is 01:45:40 Like, John Feidelberg, you're going to get his organs. I'd be like, no. Let me die. Whatever I've got in me now is probably better but but let's say like can they take my organs and i still explode or do i have to stop being an organ i think it's more of a matter of like your belly like you just open carcass than the organs themselves okay with with no with no knowledge on the subject i bet you can take organs out and maybe you would even but i feel like i feel like even the fucking cut you gotta give me to get my organs out,
Starting point is 01:46:07 that's not a perfectly sealed Ziploc bag. It's gonna seep out. Well, you need to plug your asshole and fucking put some shit in your mouth. William the Conqueror style. You know he was plugged up. Pop. Pop goes the weasel. I really want to explore
Starting point is 01:46:25 could you imagine some bitch is like oh my god William the Conqueror died you know you know that somebody got like a
Starting point is 01:46:33 William the Conqueror dead body face yeah her and Jackie Kennedy got some good keepsakes that thing that thing would fetch a pretty penny on the auction block.
Starting point is 01:46:47 Let me tell you something. You, as the youngins say, you've been in your bag. You have been in your bag. I think it's since the start of Out of Order, John has just been in his bag saying shit that I'm like, oh, dang. Well, it's too tough. You're walking home with head on you. I don't know if anyone gets mad at anything. You have more head than Jackie Onassis, man.
Starting point is 01:47:07 Let's go. We really need to make fun facts a thing. Yeah. It'd be fantastic. You know what I love about fun facts? The way people go, fun fact. Because everyone's got one. Everyone's got a fun fact.
Starting point is 01:47:20 You just go, fun fact. Yeah. Everyone goes, whoa. I want to hear a fun fact. Your voice just goes, fun fact. It's a little bit of this, a little bit of that. I'm going to tell you something. Oh, fun fact. Yeah, yeah. Everyone goes, whoa. I want to hear a fun fact. Your voice just goes, fun fact. Bro, I want. It's a little bit of this, a little bit of that. I'm going to tell you something.
Starting point is 01:47:27 Ooh, fun fact. I want this to get so caught on. This is no long case. This is just a fun fact. It's just a fun fact show. You call in with your fun facts. That should finally be the name. The fun fact show.
Starting point is 01:47:37 Fun facts. You know, hey, you watch that. We'll talk about gaping asshole for an hour and a half, but then for 20 minutes, you get some fun facts. Maybe sometimes a fun fact about gaping asshole. Crossover a half but then for 20 minutes you get some fun maybe sometimes a fun fact about yeah crossover i a podcast called fun facts fun facts with with kfc and fidelberg should we just change the name right now we could make merch right now it says fun fact why don't we we'll just steal like uh the boardie barn like the smiley face like a little yellow circle says fun fact. Done. New show.
Starting point is 01:48:06 Rebranded. I've always wanted to rebrand. I hate the name of the show. I've been dying to change the name of the show. It's my goddamn namesake. I hate it. I've wanted it gone forever. The other day somebody just tweeted me, I think, no it wasn't, last night was the Embiid thing. There was something else. Oh, by the way, I
Starting point is 01:48:22 was messaging with the dude who runs Cold takes exposed uh i hate him now fred like every time uh every time cold takes goes on i just get flooded with people talking about my marriage and now calling me a racist what would you say i don't uh it's um i said when mb broke his for like the 50th time like 5 years ago I was like his career is over I like messaged him and I was like I was like I hate you dude I hate you man
Starting point is 01:48:51 like every time cause he posts he posts the tweet when I'm like some dude named Giannis Antetokounmpo is in the slam dunk contest which at the time everyone was like fuck this and and every single fucking year when MBiid is hurt during the playoffs, I'm like, this is what I'm fucking talking about.
Starting point is 01:49:08 So every time I'm like, I like stand by both of those. But I was just like, dude, I can't stand you. Like every time you do this, I just get flooded with hate about my divorce and my family and my kids. And he's just like, yeah, I know it's crazy, man. I was like, yeah. I was like, look at this one. Like this guy just sent me a picture of a KKK hood. And this guy is just like making fun of my kids. And he's like, it's crazy, man. I was like, yeah. I was like, look at this one. Like, this guy just sent me a picture of a KKK hood,
Starting point is 01:49:26 and this guy is just, like, making fun of my kids, and he's like, it's wild, man. You're not picking up what I'm putting down here. To be fair to him, we used to get that quite a bit. What? Like, Barstool fans suck. Yeah. You'd be like, yeah, well, what are you going to do?
Starting point is 01:49:42 Here's the thing. What I would say to that is, yeah, but we're making money doing this. You get nothing out of this other than – He's got a book out. Yeah, he does have his book out. Fred said – he said, you read my book. You'll like it. And I'm never going to do that.
Starting point is 01:49:59 But wait, what was the reason I brought that up? Oh, so I don't know if it was the MB thing or something else where people were mad at me. Maybe the WBC, whatever. Somebody just sent me a tweet. And it's always, like you say, just the truest stuff hurts the most. And it just said, if your podcast had a different name, it would be more successful. With a period. With a period at the end of the tweet.
Starting point is 01:50:22 And I was like, I've been saying it for years. It's really nice. It's just like, it's a really good show. It's not a good name. end of the tweet. I like that. I've been saying it for years. It's really nice. It's a really good show. It's not a good name. Morally named show. I started it a hundred years ago and I didn't even know what podcast names were. That was the thing. That's like when you were posted
Starting point is 01:50:39 on your friend's wall. I don't know. I'm just fucking making shit up here. Now you know that you would never name your fucking podcast with the word radio in it back then we didn't i'm sorry i started so goddamn early you assholes all right last voicemail or yeah one more we have or two more what are we two more two more what's up fights kfc gang first off pirate water has made it to nebr Just letting you know. Second, I was watching the most
Starting point is 01:51:07 recent episode and fights referenced Jax Teller and the Sons of Anarchy finale. It got me thinking that was the most recent and maybe most emotional I've been at the season or series finale of any TV show.
Starting point is 01:51:23 I teared up at the end of that, and my wife kind of gave me shit because usually I just have no emotion in my life. Oh, fuck that. That was a tear-worthy moment. But I was wondering, what was the TV either season or series finale that you guys got the most emotional about,
Starting point is 01:51:40 whether it made you tear up, angry, happy, whatever? What was it? I have far more episodes of TV. Usually finales stink. We're always criticizing finales. I was going to say, Jax didn't hit me like fucking what's his name? Opie. Opie. Opie was worse than Jax. Worse than Opie was Opie's wife. Opie finding out that his wife
Starting point is 01:51:59 died was grueling. She's kind of grueling. Kind of had it coming when you think about it. Can't go against the family. The finale. I don't think I've cried enough. Usually I'm like, they fucked it up again. Yeah, it's definitely anger.
Starting point is 01:52:22 I didn't cry. Game of Thrones was anger. It wasn't even. I didn't cry. Game of Thrones was... It wasn't even... It wasn't even... I'd actually love to go back. You know what? I am going to do it. Speaking of shitty things.
Starting point is 01:52:34 So I tweeted at 10.25 p.m. on 4.28.19. I tweeted it from Earth. What's that about? I don't know. I'm just seeing that for the first time. Some people have that. Battle of Winterfell, immediate review. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:49 I remember this. I remember that. Okay. A widely hated episode. Now. Yes, now. We were never more right than anything. Fights? Come on, man. No way. Freezing cold take. Watching Tomorrow Night. you're an idiot you're so zany ha ha um that's fine i get that but you're wrong and i hate you you hate life
Starting point is 01:53:13 and everything in it why would you think you'd like it uh you're an absolute buffoon yikes this take won't hold up well we get it you're a hipster fights you're a fucking loser dude get the fuck out of here it was so awful uh oh wait no that's a good one um what a loser fights in a force contrarian take name more iconic do you're a fucking loser well that's a bad take cringe clickbait um hating popular things doesn't make you interesting kill yourself only here for the ratio only omg you're so unique say that you know what is the least interesting thing is just loving everything because other people do like i you know if i'd rather be contrarian than the opposite i'd rather
Starting point is 01:53:53 you know i don't want to be either but if i had a choice between being the guy who just loves absolutely everything and having like a high standard and being contrarian that a thousand percent of the time i i've said and this is actually one thing i said once where i was like oh i like that probably the only thing ever where i said i don't like i don't strive to be different but i don't like being the same if that's a contrarian then it is what it is but like yeah i i the worst take in the history takes your business watching television which season will be more correct on final episodes of game of thrones because me and clem were like doing that that podcast and i was like guys that first episode wasn't that good and people hated me and then i
Starting point is 01:54:30 was like the second one didn't redeem it at all and by the third one i was like we're running out of time this season sucks guys and everyone was killing us and me and clem were the only ones going like i don't want it to be this way right you know i'm just not enjoying it i said that or last met season because watching the Mets now, they're not as good and they're not as exciting and you don't have Edwin Diaz and they're not playing as well. And I was like, I told you a million times last season, enjoy this one because they don't come along like this.
Starting point is 01:54:53 And I was like, which one are we more right on? Because as time goes on, I mean, the Game of Thrones thing was my proudest moment on the internet to be like not bullied by people. I was like, no, i'm sticking to my guns on this i think this shit sucks and i think i'm not not even like my personal preference i'm like this objectively is bad if you look at like the way tv is written and all that and people just what why can you not why can people not do that yeah it's like you can love the first five six seven whatever seasons and then be like this these episodes were not good. They're written by entirely different people.
Starting point is 01:55:26 You were able to do it six months later. Why couldn't you do it in the moment? I get being wrapped up in, I want to love it, I want to love it, I want to love it, I'm going to convince myself to love it, love it, love it. But that's one thing, as long as you acknowledge that you're doing that. Some part of you has to go, that wasn't that good, but I love these guys, I love this show, so I'm just going to say it. I remember that moment being like, this is a moment for me where i know like this is what it
Starting point is 01:55:48 takes to like make content on the internet because other people would just be like yeah okay it was great it was great it's like you have to be willing to be the person who's like the voice of reason and you get crushed for it you get fucking hammered like like i've been a hundred more advice so many people unfollowing me during game of Stools and shit. I thought I liked you. I was like, what? You don't like me anymore because the TV show is not good? What? But that's kind of what it takes.
Starting point is 01:56:11 Where are all the freezing cold takes on that one, huh? All those fucking suck bags in my mentions. I'm looking at this list. 15 finales that left us in pieces. The Good Place was sad. I never finished it. That was a good show. Once I got to heaven, I stopped watching. I liked it when they were in pieces. The Good Place was sad. I never finished it. That was a good show. Once I got to Heaven, I stopped watching. I liked it when they were in hell.
Starting point is 01:56:29 MASH, never watched it. Weird McGann, don't know what that is. Scrubs, I never watched that. Scrubs has an episode. Oh boy, it's a sad one. Again, it's not the finale. The last one with Friends, don't care.
Starting point is 01:56:41 Where Do You Think We Are Right Now is crazy sad. Definitely don't care about that. Supernatural, who gives a fuck. Breaking Bad, Foligno is not cry-worthy. Because it was like, by that point, Walter was bad. You're not crying for him. BoJack Horseman, I don't know. The Office finale, there was some tears.
Starting point is 01:56:57 Sure, but it's one of those things where you're not going to get tears when you're kind of stumbling to the finish line kind of deal. Again, I actually do think that seasons like nine eight and seven are overly criticized i still think they do have their good parts um but the uh i i don't i don't tear up during that the when michael shows up to be the best man or the best mensch or when um andy says i wish you could to the good times, which again, I knew that quote. It gets attributed to Andy. I had heard that before.
Starting point is 01:57:28 Yeah, it's a real quote. I can't find it from somewhere else, but it's from somewhere else. The number one was Fleabag. I definitely was not crying at Fleabag. I wasn't either, but I actually- Killing Eve,
Starting point is 01:57:37 I definitely don't know about. Oh, Fleabag season one? No, I think- The series? The series. I don't know if I remember the series. I rewatched the season pretty recently. That wasn't really- The season one- Yeah, when she The series? The series I don't know if I remember the series I rewatched the season Pretty recently
Starting point is 01:57:46 That wasn't really The season one She's talking about the priest And all that shit Yeah Um I The most I've ever cried
Starting point is 01:57:54 I think at any piece of entertainment By the way She's Excuse me She's dating Um Fuck it What's his dick?
Starting point is 01:58:03 Bread or Banshees Uh Yeah I don't know That's who he is But that's a monster duo Fuck it, what's his take? Brad or Banshees? Uh, yeah. I don't know. That's who he is. But that's a monster duo. That's an Irish couple, right? She's English. She's English.
Starting point is 01:58:12 Um, she is... Phoebe Wallenbridge. Uh, I think Netflix paid her, or whoever that was on, paid her for, like, three projects, and she's just, like, not doing the other ones. She's just, like, collect the money. Really? Or, like, I don't know if she's, like... Just prime.
Starting point is 01:58:24 She's just, like... She owes them, but she's just, like, not other ones. She's just like collect the money. Really? I don't know if she's like – She's just like – she owes them, but she's just like not doing them. She's a pretty gangster. I would feel a lot of pressure. Like that's a hard – you're almost a victim of how great your first project is. Yeah. I think it's her first project, first one to make it because it's like whatever she puts out next is not going to live with me. Well, she wrote a new Bond. Okay.
Starting point is 01:58:44 But like you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The next show she's in or whatever, like, um, the hardest I've ever like cried is I think it's season one of walking dead back when that show was good. 35 seasons ago. Uh,
Starting point is 01:58:57 uh, Lori, the mom is giving birth and like, she knows she's going to die. And he, she's just talking to her son and rick or carl carl and rick just about like you know i'm gonna die and like here's you know my final words i was soaked i was getting like pruney skin from how hard i was crying which is funny now because
Starting point is 01:59:20 it's like at the time walking down was like the best cable show ever and it was now i'm like that show sucks. But that was the saddest. But I don't think any finales really get me. One more. Last one. Hey, guys. What's up?
Starting point is 01:59:31 I just had a quick question for you. But first, I don't know if the fry thing is a couple weeks old at this point, but I just wanted to show you something. It's a McDonald's fry I just found in my center cup holder. I think we know the answer to that question. Tell you what, you're not buying it. It's my concept. If you could take a pill that would alleviate all your symptoms anytime
Starting point is 01:59:47 you get sick. So anytime you get sick, you just take a pill and then you feel 100% better. Nothing wrong with you. Except the only problem is every time you take it, your chance of getting cancer increases by 1%. You still taking the pill? When are you taking the pill? What's the bar when you use it, when you not use it?
Starting point is 02:00:03 So I would say white people like us have like a 40 chance of getting cancer yeah so we're starting i said yeah to that so easily okay you're in white today that's scientific white people disease yeah we're gonna get cancer and die right is that it is that true i i don't know i just think i think everybody gets cancer but i feel like white people get diseases and die all the time so like i'm just my point being that you're not starting from zero you're starting i think we're starting from higher than that so if you if you do it like 10 times it's not like oh i have a 10 chance now i think it's like you have a 50 chance but does that that one percent is like let's say you were zero percent likely to get cancer because you those genetic tests like i don't know if anyone's zero percent but let's say you were 0% likely to get cancer because you get those genetic tests I don't know if anyone's 0% but let's say you were
Starting point is 02:00:47 then adding 1% that adds a full 1% or that adds a 1% to your 0% I don't think I'm explaining it right yeah like my 0 is starting at 40% yeah so that's it's still just 1% more
Starting point is 02:01:02 I get what you mean we're getting too deep with it. You're saying a full 1%. So if I take it 100 times, I am getting cancer. Yeah, let's do that. Okay. I would – I don't get like – I mean, I would probably take it like 49 times. You know, like I still got a good shot.
Starting point is 02:01:20 I think it's – You got to die somehow. I think it's a part of being a drinker that I'm hung over a lot. So when I'm sick, I'm just like, just power through it. Just go. I don't really vary. I've been sick since Sunday. I've been very sick since Sunday when we hung out with someone with COVID.
Starting point is 02:01:39 Oh, man. And I just do it. That Monday episode, I took a muscle relaxer the night before to sleep i was like bro we did an interview there was one point in the interview you looked at me and i was like his eyes aren't in his head i was like i was dying dude it was like like you looked back and i was like well we gotta wrap yeah i was gonna fall asleep right now i was literally falling asleep as i did it i was like you looked back at me I was like we gotta wrap Kevin's gonna fall asleep right now I was literally falling asleep as I did it
Starting point is 02:02:06 I was like after coming off that tour hanging out with somebody I was like but I think adulthood
Starting point is 02:02:15 is part of just powering through those moments but if you had a but that's what I mean like I think if it was one of those things that got invented
Starting point is 02:02:21 today I'd be like I'm never gonna take it it's one of those things I grew up in that world but like I I either never going to take it. It's one of those things I grew up in that world. But I either get hospital sick or I just do it my day. I think it's one of those if you never break the seal. I think if you took it once and you were like, oh, wow.
Starting point is 02:02:40 See, I could never take it on a regular day because my baseline is I'm sick. So if I took it, I'm like, wait, is this how people feel every day? Like, like if it cured ailments, I didn't even realize were ailments. That's what I mean. I don't think you even know what good feels like until you take this pill. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:02:53 And then all of a sudden you're like, Oh, like my knees and this and all that don't hurt anymore. So it's like then, and then you would take it like 99 times. Also, is it just that you're going to get cancer? Like, do I take my hundredth pill and I get cancer?
Starting point is 02:03:04 Or it's like, you are now guaranteed to get cancer when you get do I take my hundredth pill and I get cancer? Or it's like, you are now guaranteed to get cancer when you get cancer. Yeah. It's like, I'll just, again, probably going to happen anyway. So dude,
Starting point is 02:03:13 I think I wouldn't, I'm so sick right now. And I think it's my glands are so swollen. I can't really turn my head. So, um, but here I am amongst you folks and I'm just powering through it. My glands are so swollen I can't turn my head.
Starting point is 02:03:30 If you look at the Dana interview, I think most of that interview I'm looking – I'm just like staring straight for it because I couldn't really look over at Dana. Bro, you should be able to turn your head. And if you can't, you need to go home. I can, just it just hurts it's like like once i get to like here it's like your fucking glands yeah if it gets it's like a very tender soreness when i turn my head i uh to answer the question i think i would take it you'd have to just like set a standard for like i only take it when it's this bad you know what i
Starting point is 02:04:03 mean yeah like uh you can't just be like i'm hung over right it's got all right i died in college right right right yeah i mean we're just describing heavy drug use but um but i would i think i would take it i'd save it i'd save it till i was old till i actually had cancer loophole fixes all my problems. I got cancer. Boom, I'm fine. But then it becomes a black hole. Yeah, tomorrow I have a higher chance of cancer.
Starting point is 02:04:32 Yeah, you don't have cancer today, but tomorrow you get double cancer. Eventually you just pop like William the Conqueror. By the way, speaking of being sick, isn't it so weird that my only lasting thing from covid is just like thinking about how weird it is like i just explicitly said i'm sick no one cares not anymore but like but like it is like but there's still like back then it was like scary to but but it's at least in your head of it right now i'm just sitting in a room with an infected person now or just put it in your head there oh yeah no i i was i thought you meant that like i don't care anymore you don't but i think about it more where i'm like i'm just sitting next to a person who's going to get me sick.
Starting point is 02:05:08 Yeah, back in the day, it was like... All right, time for Rory and Maul on KC Radio. So let's get into it. Thanks to our friends over at 3C. I am exhausted right now. I am tired. I cannot wait to get home, pop on a show,
Starting point is 02:05:30 perhaps Love and Death, which I'm watching and is very funny. It's not a comedy. I can't wait to get home, pop a 3G, and just vibe on the couch for maybe the next week or so. I have a long time to catch up on.
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Starting point is 02:06:51 take 15% off your order. Must be $20 or older to purchase. Please use RESPONSIBLY. Alright, let's get right into it. We got Rory Amal. You're drinking a gallon of water a day? I'm trying to, man. You put down like two gallons. He drinks more water than anyone I've ever fucking seen in my life. Two gallons a day?
Starting point is 02:07:08 I don't know exactly how much. I was at a doctor recently. What are these? These are liters. This is a liter. How many liters in a gallon? I put down five, six of those, no problem. That's at the office.
Starting point is 02:07:18 I watch you put down like five of these in the morning time. It's crazy. I probably have two or three before I come to the office, and I'm probably putting out four or five here it's actually not that hard to do it's not what's your what's your bathroom break numbers like uh it's through the roof it's crazy diabetes we'll start the podcast he's got he's like let me be before it middle of the podcast hang on can we take a break after the podcast you gotta go i'm like what where is it you're a camel what's happening here my entire childhood my mother anytime i a piss, took me to the doctor and said,
Starting point is 02:07:47 he has to have diabetes. That's 100% true. My mom has diabetes, so she assumed anytime I urinated, it meant I had diabetes. It sticks with me. The only reason I ever think it, when I was in high school, our goalie on the hockey team, there was a phase where he was getting off the ice all the time to go piss. First of all, it takes forever because you've got to take a little gear up to take a piss. Second of all, when you're practicing hockey, the goalie is a hugely important piece.
Starting point is 02:08:10 That's something. I think you need a goalie. You have to come to a hall and wait until the goalie came back. And eventually our coach was like, I think you have diabetes. And he did. That's a good call. Good eye, coach. That's a good call.
Starting point is 02:08:23 So now I always think every time I'm like it's probably diabetes but I'm still pissing highlighted yellow so as long as my fucking vitamins are in there
Starting point is 02:08:31 I think you're right so that much water and still yellow yeah interesting something's wrong your reaction you might have type 3 diabetes
Starting point is 02:08:39 second guessing yeah if I drink like one of those it's clear dude it's like it's clear, dude. It's just water coming back out. I actually, I literally just pissed.
Starting point is 02:08:48 Yellow? Yellow. You got something terrible. Is it brewing yellow? No, no, no. Okay. It's highlighted. Those colors don't run. Is it because of something else you've taken?
Starting point is 02:09:00 Well, yeah. I said vitamins. Oh, so then that's what it is. It's vitamin colored. Oh, then that's what it is. Yeah, not dehydratedrated i didn't know vitamins out of color oh yeah it's all the extra vitamins which is almost all of them okay it's it's all like a because usually if you look at the vitamins like this is eight thousand percent of your a yeah seven thousand percent or seven thousand nine hundred percent just getting pissed out and that's why that boxer
Starting point is 02:09:19 i forgot who it was he drank his urine oh yeah yeah yeah fuck that was i forgot who it was he drank his urine oh yeah yeah fuck that was i forgot who it was he was like yes all the nutrients that you that's crazy that's what gets your hands nice and tough too yeah yeah moises salo jorge pasada a couple of the dudes was it tyler myers who's like the myers the kid who was in san diego for a while in tampa or tampa will myers pasada was a piss drinker yeah no piss on the hands. Piss on the hands. Because those guys, they famously didn't have batting gloves. And they were like, how'd you do that?
Starting point is 02:09:49 And they're like, I have calluses and it's hardened because I peed on my fucking hands. And I know- Dude, take some steroids and put a cork on your hands. That's what I'm saying. Or just put some batting gloves on. Don't piss on your hands. Just get a cork. Batting gloves are cool as shit, dude.
Starting point is 02:10:03 They work. Yeah, either get the gloves or just shut the fuck up. I think... That is also cool. He used to steal them. His father did it, though. Oh, so it was handed down.
Starting point is 02:10:11 I think, I don't know, maybe back in the day, you know, if you're playing in the Dominican or some shit, you come up and you're peeing on your hands. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:10:18 We have, like, modern technology now. You don't need to be pissing on your fucking hands anymore. Although I don't know how modern is it. We have steroids. Is Franklin still in the lead?
Starting point is 02:10:26 I feel like if it was super modern, Franklin would have been. Franklin's a little company in Massachusetts. You're still like the forefront. I draw the line in any sort of – you can let her on. We don't care if you don't care. It's up to you. Baze, go crazy. Guest appearance by Baze Lee.
Starting point is 02:10:44 The most famous dog in podcasting. You think so? She's a service dog. I would think so. Guest appearance by Baze Lee. The most famous dog in podcasting. You think so? She's a service dog. I would think so. I don't know any other podcasting dogs. Dame Dash might be
Starting point is 02:10:52 the only other person I know that brings his dog everywhere the way I do. Do you really? Everywhere you go? She just did her first flight to LA
Starting point is 02:10:58 maybe three weeks ago. She was next. It was Baze Lee, Victor Cruz, J.R. Smith,ith and me that was the front of the plane big four they call it and then 88 keys was there too if you're a hip-hop nerd uh yeah d d she said she's a service dog do you like is she actually i mean but she's got a i don't know if the who would check up on that yeah it's oddly weird how easy it is to make your dog a service dog
Starting point is 02:11:26 just check a box they just said yeah just download this thing and sign it i'm not a vet the entire time i got to the airport three hours in advance which i never do because i was so paranoid that i was going to get there and they were going to be like no because it was the easiest thing on fucking earth i was like if it was this easy there'd be dogs everywhere in the airport if everyone knew this but no one asked me for no one even asked me for the paperwork dogs though i feel like that's that's a it's getting more and more common my buddy's got a dog same same as i don't even know if he has an app he he uh he got her in like california something like that and just like he he got her this is no bullshit um her name is henry after one writer i
Starting point is 02:12:07 forget because he got her from a meth head outside a bar in like northern california naturally and the meth where one's like yeah it was like yo 50 bucks to the dog i'll throw in the van too. What a steal. $50 the dog and the van. Meanwhile, I had to rescue Bazley from the mall for $3,000. I could have got a van and a crackhead dog. It was like straight up like Kramer where it's like, dude, you already made the sale.
Starting point is 02:12:42 I was going to pay $50 for the dog. Throwing in a fucking Dodge Caravan on this thing? I'm going to add in a tip. And then he crashed the caravan. He moved to Colorado thereafter. Crashed the van on some Colorado back roads in a snowstorm. And he just left it there. That shit was for sure stolen, by the way.
Starting point is 02:12:59 He bought a fucking dog. As long as the dog is fine. I'll just leave this. He probably murdered someone in that van and was trying to get it off his head. Yeah, for sure. That was the murder weapon. But anytime people ask
Starting point is 02:13:10 when I have had to show the paperwork, they're like, what service does she provide? And the number one thing is all fake service dog. Anxiety, shit, whatever. No, because they don't allow that anymore. It has to be like seizures or something.
Starting point is 02:13:21 Oh, really? So it's hilarious to watch me say that to people. Then they see how she behaves. Like this dog, if I start biting my tongue, she's not going to do a fucking thing. How can a dog help a seizure anyway? I've seen the videos of it. It starts to bark and it knows what to do.
Starting point is 02:13:39 Baze doesn't even know where to piss. I was going to say, not my dog. Yeah, I could barely house train my dog. He's not figuring out how to cure seizures. It's like I see him on the front page of Reddit where it's just like someone fakes having seizures and the dog comes running over. It's like pins you down kind of deal. It is. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:13:56 I think the only thing you have stopping you from a very bad seizure is a dog. All the videos I've seen, I'm like, I don't think it's going to get the job done. It's got to go some old yellow, like, go get somebody, boy. She's coasting off her looks. Brains aren't there. That's not it. Can we get right to the shit?
Starting point is 02:14:18 Yeah, what do you want to do? Let's get to it. What do you guys think of Dave's comments of Angel Reese? What was the building like? The building? He hasn't been here in four years. So the building was normal. Business as usual.
Starting point is 02:14:34 Dave has said crazier things. That was one of those ones where I opened up Twitter and I was like, I opened up Twitter and I closed Twitter. I was like, we're not doing that today. What's funny is if you know Dave, you know that that is 100% based on who he was betting on. So he was just mad he lost like a quarter of a million dollar bet on women's basketball.
Starting point is 02:14:55 And also, if you know him, he's stupid, but he doesn't mean anything by it. And there's no ill ill will racial racism behind it but it's fucking crazy yeah i was gonna say as a as a white dude to call a young black athlete a classless piece of shit you're gonna get it you know where do intentions even matter yeah yeah yeah is he aware that he looked insane and even if his intentions weren't that it 100 appeared that way because there was no comment of the other girl that's been taunting everyone for the entire year yeah he he i mean i don't think he he knew i wouldn't say he he was aware that he was insane
Starting point is 02:15:38 but i think i mean he's we've he's done that a million times before he's been at the center of controversy for 25 years the only other time i had a reaction similar to when i was scrolling twitter and had like a cartoon like oh it's gonna be bad is when he posted brady's kids day so i had a feeling that was the original one that was that was where uh how do you guys balance that with the amount of shows that are in the Barstool network to some degree even if you don't even know the other show you are
Starting point is 02:16:13 kind of responsible for what they say to the public because you're under the flag that they're under and they said something crazy when you look at ESPN or whoever else like a bigger company do you think think of every show as responsible for the other? No, but they're so... Is someone else at ESPN responsible when Skip Bayless says some dumb shit?
Starting point is 02:16:35 No. No, but it's a little different, I think, with Barstool and podcasting in general. Because we talk unfiltered more than, say say someone on an espn or any type of communication company so yeah they're pc for the most part every now and then you get skip saying some wild shit but skip saying wild shit is not much compared to the stuff we say in podcasting yeah so when you have a big network it it gets like i watched gillian wallow have to give that response because they are in fact even though they didn't say it part he was he was standing under the flag angela reese angela i was like maybe we shouldn't even put out a statement if we don't know names yet
Starting point is 02:17:14 maybe we need to work on that i mean i get it i mean i'm i met dave and and big cat they're cool guys and i know how the internet is when when shit like that happens especially coming from a white guy yeah but if it was a a black guy calling a white female athlete a classist piece of shit i don't know if it would have stung as much but i get it i know why it stung and um you know i saw the backlash and i understood it but i think dave just he just he he lives in his own world and sometimes he tips toes into the real world and he's like oh shit he closed the door and he kind of just disappears for a minute i mean it's been a long fucking time of doing it like he's been there you know i guess oh early 2000s yeah but he um i mean i've gone like head to head with him and and probably disagreed with him the most out of anybody yeah so when when people are
Starting point is 02:18:05 like we were just arguing the other day about the the popcorn on the plane uh-huh that whole thing he's talking about we need if babies are crying on planes they should be thrown out with parachutes that's dave's take yeah and i got kids and so i'm always like no you gotta understand as a parent it's different so i've been i mean me and dave have been you know arguing more than fucking anybody on the internet so i mean that's what's cool about here at barstool is like you can say yeah whatever you want to him uh and and there's really like no repercussions of it i wouldn't have done it i wouldn't have said it i also know again i i do think intent matters uh to some extent sure i think beyond it it's like your intentions can be good and you're going to get called. He does this a lot too.
Starting point is 02:18:47 He'll go on Tucker Carlson and then get mad when people call him political. I was like, I know you're not really a political dude, but when you go on Tucker Carlson fucking four times a month, you're going to be, you're going to get called, you know? So I think the intent does matter to some extent,
Starting point is 02:19:04 but yeah, I mean, it was out of line. It was definitely out of line. It wasn't necessary. And classless was just the wrong word to me. I also think the piece of shit. I'm going to land on the piece of shit.
Starting point is 02:19:15 Classless, that's your opinion. Classless was actually what was trending. Hashtag classless. And that happens in sports all the time. Stay classy. You're not classy. Sportsmanship is classy. It was the piece of shit.
Starting point is 02:19:25 The piece of shit was like, that was crazy. She's like a 19-year-old girl or some shit, right? Exactly. But that's what I mean. Whereas some people look at that. Dave Portnoy was not like, I hate this 19-year-old, classless, piece of shit girl. He was like, this thing just cost me $250,000.
Starting point is 02:19:43 Whether it was a young black girl or an old white man or a fucking sport or a horse or a whatever he's like mad about his money but you know you get mad about your money and you start saying shit on the internet there's going to be a response I don't think he ever like thought this doesn't warrant a response
Starting point is 02:20:00 like he wouldn't be like whoa whoa whoa why are you guys you know he but he he went in that's for certain yeah i was texting with dan with big cat being like oh boy like he really went there yeah we've all had our moments but that's but that's what does suck about the internet like everything someone you're attached to everything they say you now have to answer for and it's like yeah no i disagree with what he just said i i have nothing to do with that i disagree right that's it and that's it plain and simple
Starting point is 02:20:30 we we went through it too he interviewed trump and people were like you know how can you work with this man for this man next to this man i was like i don't know man dude got we you gotta understand he came from we all came from like nothing in terms of entertainment world. Like we were nobodies. And he's worked up to his position to get invited to the White House. Whether or not you like the president or whatever, that's some crazy shit that you got to be – I think most people wouldn't turn that down, right? And then people are asking me like what do I think about it it? And what I'm like, I don't know. I don't like the guy.
Starting point is 02:21:06 I wouldn't, I don't know what I would have done in that situation, but also I'm, he did it, not me. So fucking deal with him. You know, I think we got big enough to a point where it is separate.
Starting point is 02:21:17 You know, I think we will always be lumped together more, but I think we all kind of speak for ourselves. At least the, uh, more, you know, the people have been around for a while.
Starting point is 02:21:26 Yeah. Some of the younger people and new people will get lumped together. I don't think – I never considered that I had to say anything about that. I don't think anyone ever was like, what do you say about that? The day that I have to comment on women's college basketball is not – like I don't really watch basketball. It's not a day you're looking forward to. That's not your thing. I did watch the game, but I was like, I don't think I tweeted about it.
Starting point is 02:21:47 I was just watching a basketball game. I mean, the women's final was a lot more entertaining than the men's final. Bro, I turned off the men's final. I watched the women's final. College basketball to me, unfortunately, was the first thing in sports that I stopped watching. When I was younger, to me, the first couple days of the tournament and that first weekend, greatest days in sports. I would take off of work or sneak out of work we throw parties at barstool when i was here open bar the whole nine and you know i would i i know the top 25 i know
Starting point is 02:22:15 every star all that shit and then just like as you get older and more responsibilities then i had kids and shit like the first thing to go as far as sports was march madness and like like to tell you like i couldn't tell you a fucking single thing about college basketball this year but but i'm with you on that because i feel the same way now but i think it's because just the talent level is just not is that what i couldn't tell if it's me or or no these these young kids now because they you know everything is social media and a lot of them you know with the whole nil deals and you know they they feel like they're these uh the athletes when it's like, no, you just have a social media following. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:22:50 Yeah. Really not that good. Right. Right. You know what I mean? So I think that the talent level is just not what it used to be. I remember even feeling like Zion was a weird case because Zion was like the second coming. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:23:00 And we saw all the highlights of him in high school. And then, you know, he balled out at Duke. And I'm not saying he's like a bust by any means but he was kind of touted as like the next i mean i remember the knicks beat in the lottery it was like when you get zion yeah and it's like if you had gotten zion where would you be probably like in the same spot you know and that was like a lot of hype behind it so but he was more exciting than he was talented as far as basketball right just physically he was just so much better but i do remember watching those high school highlights being like are we really fucking jacked up that he's dunking over like a five
Starting point is 02:23:35 foot four sophomore like skinny white kid he's dunking over me exactly exactly there's more we were just talking about maybe you Maybe you know. Is Bronny Jr. a legit talent? He's legit. Like, will deserve to be in the NBA if his father wasn't LeBron? Or is going to get a look because of LeBron? I say McDonald's game. Let's start there. Fuck the NBA.
Starting point is 02:23:56 Yeah, right, right. It's ways to go. His dad being who he is definitely put a lot of pressure on him. It put a lot of light and attention on him. But I think that he's put in the work and he's gotten a lot of pressure on him it uh you know it put a lot of light and attention on him but i think that he's put into work and he's gotten a lot better as a i mean i've definitely heard and seen more highlights and shit yeah he's he's watching he's top 20 in his class oh all right yeah so then you are legit you know he's legit it's it's he's not what his dad was obviously but he's he's he's he's working himself into his his path. Like, you know, this is who I am.
Starting point is 02:24:26 I know being Bronny James Jr. is tough because you have the name. Remember LeBron being like, what did he say? He was like, I don't want, like, pressure on my kids or whatever. Yeah, yeah. Named him LeBron Jr. It's tough, but. He put him in Space Jam. That was one of my favorite tweets when he first said that.
Starting point is 02:24:45 It was when he was very young. It was crazy just to think, like, I know what Bronny James looks like playing basketball at a middle school level. From a child, yeah. And he said something like, Bronny didn't wear six, maybe? Whatever number LeBron was wearing at the time. Yes, that's where LeBron came up. Bronny didn't wear that number because he didn't want to be confused for that. And someone had a tweet
Starting point is 02:25:07 where it was a picture of middle school Bronny. And now coming into the game, number nine, LeBron James Jr. I was like, hey man, who's that? That's a coincidence, I'm sure. It's a common name. How old is he now? He's 17, 18.
Starting point is 02:25:24 So he'll still have. Senior year. He just finished his senior year. Oh, he just finished senior year. So he's going to college? Yeah. So he's got like two more years before he can be a pro? Well, he can leave after his first year.
Starting point is 02:25:34 First year, yeah. You only have to be out of high school one year now. Right, right, right. I was just watching a clip of Ken Griffey Sr. Talking about, because he and Junior played next to each other. I think that's got to be the coolest thing in the world
Starting point is 02:25:48 that you can do. Oh, that's O'Brien waiting on now. He just wants to play with O'Brien. Yeah, yeah. That's what it's about now. And it was a clip of so Ken Griffey Sr.
Starting point is 02:25:56 was in left, Junior's in center and fly ball and Ken Griffey Jr. swoops in and like snatches it from his dad and he's laughing
Starting point is 02:26:04 and they get to the dugout and he took the car keys from him and grounded him yeah it's like it's like it was his i think i think keg river play was like 18 or 19 so it's still like your teenage son yeah like you're fucking grounded yeah the keys but you're also in the same lineup that's such a that's such an amazing thing man that has to be it's gotta be uh you you have to feel like you just like conquered the one life as a father yeah like you have to feel like you just like conquered the world you won life as a father yeah you won life
Starting point is 02:26:27 like I did it all like perfectly so you're saying Michael Jordan's is failed as a father that's what you're saying he's an awful father where did
Starting point is 02:26:34 Marcus played at UCF right he played somewhere he was alright he wasn't too bad he was doing something with the sneakers now he's fucking
Starting point is 02:26:43 I was gonna say he's not I take it back he's doing fine I the sneak i was gonna say he's not he's not exactly i take it back he's doing fine i don't think that got enough attention we all talked about it we talk about it every episode because i know understand why the world doesn't find that crazy that's
Starting point is 02:26:54 what i'm saying like that should be we should wake up in the morning and all go michael jordan's son fucks scotty pippen's ex white like that is it's insane it's it's like a jerry springer headline from the 90s that we just kind of go like oh okay no no that's fucking nuts it's wow there are there are like so many like i was actually doing this recently my dad i was talking about how the draft is dumb and he's like well how else would you do it i was like we just applied to the real
Starting point is 02:27:20 world like you're the number one tech guy you can't go work at google you have to go work at this dog shit company right because they said so first right google's got too many good guys you have to go work this dog shit company and if you applied that to the real world if you just at the dinner table with your dad and you're like sitting there with your girlfriend and it's his co-workers ex-wife wife you'd be like well this is fucked this is insane and that's just me and, son? This is insane, dude. Me and Steve used to work together in accounting. Very famously.
Starting point is 02:27:51 We were the best. Me and Steve ran the company. We were amazing together. And you're cool with her kids as your fake cousins. Yeah, right, right. And I think it depends on the relationship between the dads, though. Which we know is at best. It relationship between the dads, though. Yeah. Which we know is at best. It's a little shaky.
Starting point is 02:28:07 Yeah. So it's kind of like. But everybody's relationship with Mike is that. Is Mike looking at his son like, got it right. I wonder if Mike said, like, go do it. Yeah. Like, definitely go do it. You know, like, Scottie got a little.
Starting point is 02:28:17 Scottie got a little. Yeah. He got a little mouthy after the last dance. Go fuck his wife. I'm still competitive. And Larsa. Larsa. It's also like.
Starting point is 02:28:26 And I'm not saying Larsa has anything, but in our talk with Dennis Rodman, the 90s bulls, you can imagine, were throwing it around. You guys ever talk to him? Dennis Rodman? No. Dude, Rodman said they used to have practice, and then they would rent hotels after practice, and they would show up and just take
Starting point is 02:28:41 women and their husbands back to rooms to fuck them while their husbands watched. I believe that was what happened. I think that was more specifically the worm. I don't know if it was the other players. There were couples that were like, we want you to fuck. You don't think Steve Kerr was in there? Yeah, I don't think Luke got in the action.
Starting point is 02:28:59 Luke didn't get in the action. Bill Huntington and Luke out here? But you're like, I know Scotty was fucking some strange. Dennis Rodman is. He's lived a life. Bro, he broke his dick three times. Not once, not twice. He broke it three times, including a time where I think the third and final.
Starting point is 02:29:19 He sat like on a chair and a girl ran across the room and jumped trying to like land it in. At that point you're bored and you've had too much. Now you're just trying shit. That's how you become our only diplomat with North Korea. You've completed. You've hit the final level. Let me go to North Korea.
Starting point is 02:29:40 Another story that I thought like people kind of glossed over. It was just like Dennis Rodman is like hanging out with a fucking uh mass murder genocidal dictator maniac and everyone's kind of like it's funny it's just the worm it's like what the fact that he's a big fan of dennis is just weird yeah i really love this guy dude he loved him i mean you know everybody the bulls had like a special spot in a lot of people's oh yeah for sure he dude dennis lived a life dude i mean he was he was washing he was cleaning toilets in an airport yeah and then he grew by choice though like but he was he wasn't working there
Starting point is 02:30:15 he was just that was he was something like 5 10 like late in life and then he grew a foot and people were like oh you could play ball now yeah i mean he was he was on the path of like i was just going to be a janitor and like a drug addict and then gets to be you know win what five titles six or whatever it was like no wonder you think about that with people with like god complexes and i don't know that that's hard to have when he must have like a some kind of complex he's got kind of a god complex actually because excuse me when we had him on this is where our old office where like the elevator opened right into the office yeah and his people who were like
Starting point is 02:30:51 17 year old kids oh this is crazy like they came up first and they're like guys to the whole office like it wasn't like this where like everyone's kind of their own i want to know what you would think if this happened you you specifically this is a crazy thing to ask they hit their his people again like like they were like children like really young and they came up and they were like so dennis is about to come up uh one thing when dennis enters a room and again the elevator opens into the room so everyone's there when dennis enters a room uh we do like to make sure everyone stands and bows first uh and then and so just you know when the door's open, be ready for that. Everybody bow.
Starting point is 02:31:27 And then they left and went to get Rodman. And everyone was kind of like, are we going to do this? Because they didn't even stay to say it was a joke or not a joke. They said it with such confidence that every place they've gone, everybody bows, no question.
Starting point is 02:31:46 And I'm not bowing to fucking anybody. I'm not bowing to no person. It wasn't even like, I might do it now. I'll bow to anybody. I don't fucking care. I'm bowing. You ready to bow? I'm fucking giving a shit, dude.
Starting point is 02:31:58 Who am I? I'm a bum to bow to Dennis Rodman. I'll bow to Dennis Rodman. I just didn't know if he was serious or not. Did we do karate after? I'm about to bow to Dennis Rodman. I'm about to bow to Dennis Rodman. I just didn't know if he was serious or not. Did we do karate after? I'm with you. Whatever. And so no one bowed.
Starting point is 02:32:11 And then when he left, his people stayed around again. They were like, just so you know, Dennis is very disappointed. Nobody bowed. We're like, OK, so it was serious. All right. Sounds good. What the fuck? And then when the interview started, he was already in the studio, already sitting at a microphone when we walked in. Yeah. So the interview started he was already in the studio already sitting
Starting point is 02:32:25 at a microphone when we walked in so the interview started we sat down got ready for the interview and he just goes he thinks he's off air he just goes you guys ever watch a horse fuck a woman and we were like this is the man I was supposed to just bow to I'm not bowing to you
Starting point is 02:32:41 I was like Dennis is that something you you know do like frequently and he was I think he said like not frequently but like I know all the spots you can go and I'm not bowing to you. I was like, Dennis, is that something you do frequently? And he was – I think he said like not frequently, but like I know all the spots you can go. And I'm thinking like Thailand and Mexico, whatever. He was like – Madison Avenue. Yeah, like 27th and 6th. I'll get to a horse fucking a woman by 2 p.m.
Starting point is 02:32:58 It was – I kind of feel like you guys are kink shaming me. It feels like a kink shame. That's sick. To just have that information and you're like and i mean you know how he talks and looks too it was just like it was it was everything i wanted if that probably came in he's one guy that i want to meet though like that's one of the like people i'm like i gotta meet dennis yeah i mean we talked for i don't even know how long and we could have gone
Starting point is 02:33:20 for 10 hours more because it was just like there's a million questions you could ask that yeah yeah fucking on the court to off the court north korea yeah all that shit is fucking he's an who is like uh i mean i guess you know i've been on your show before you guys do kind of more of like a co-host thing than like an interview guest yeah but do you have like a bucket list or uh you know one person you'd want on your show? I mean, the Larry David one, especially speaking of Bouse and shit Bouse, would be incredible
Starting point is 02:33:52 only in my mind, though. Yeah, yeah. If he would have agreed to come on our podcast, which I know he wouldn't, I still might be reluctant, like, eh. You don't want to, like, that's almost best left to the imagination. Like don't meet your heroes type of thing?
Starting point is 02:34:07 Because if it goes badly? But see, I think he's – as long as you're okay with him being exactly him, I don't think he's – I think he is that. That's his character. I remember reading an article, an interview with his girlfriend who – that – another thing that flies on the radar, that Larry David dates like a late 20s, she might be in her early 30s now.
Starting point is 02:34:26 I was going to say, I didn't even know he had a girl. She's a 32-year-old volleyball player, rocket launcher. Rocket launcher. Can you imagine LD throwing down in the bedroom? I've never had that thought once in my life. Nobody's ever thought about that. Larry David's stroking it. He competed with Rosie O'Donnell for the bisexual.
Starting point is 02:34:46 I mean, he took a Viagra, but he got done. It's an all-time episode. But the interview, and I don't know if they're still together. This was a while back. And she was, they were just asking, what's it like being with Larry? It's exactly like you think. It's the best because we'll be at dinner
Starting point is 02:35:02 and he'll just get up and go, I'm done, and walk out. I like that. It'll be like dinner and he'll just get up and go i'm done and walk out like i like like a big dinner and he'll be like i'm out of here i'll see you i like that yeah and she's like it's the best because i get to i'm not an asshole right because larry's leaving i have to go with him right but i'm done with dinner too yeah i don't want to be there anymore i love that yeah i'm done i'm out just get up that's how we did the interview he got married in 2020 unless you get unless yeah 73 got married at 73 that is fucking Oh, that's following up. Yeah, 73. Got married at 73. That is fucking crazy moves.
Starting point is 02:35:29 He put himself in the perfect position as far as people approaching him or the things he can just say and do. Yeah. Because everyone's like, oh, look at Larry being Larry. It's so cool to see him be an asshole. Bro, I said that when Manny being Manny with Manny Ramirez became a thing. Yeah. I think the greatest thing you can achieve in life, more so than money, fame, power, is that free pass. If it's just like, oh, that's just Maul being Maul. That's just Rory being Rory.
Starting point is 02:35:54 And you can just do and say, wear whatever you want, dress however you want, say at any time. And they just go, ah, he's just being him. And you don't get held to the same standards people yeah we had we had that's where kramer got way too into character took it a little too far i would want to i would want to kick it with adam sandler so that's i was about to say perfect example of him shows up to you know an award show in basketball shorts and a hoodie and it's just that's out of me he is a i think even as much as we like as a society love that dude kind of underrated when you think like i think he's upwards of like 500
Starting point is 02:36:30 million dollars like 400 million range like big money that's why i like he figured it out yeah it's like i'm gonna do what i want to do create what i want and just live like my friends will be the cast every time every time it to change We're all just boys hanging out Every single decade For seven years Adam Sandler will do a Not great movie Where he's Jennifer Anderson's husband
Starting point is 02:36:56 In the Bahamas And then once every eight years He'll do an uncut Gems and be like Oh yeah by the way I'm fucking awesome at this I'm just choosing not to do the ones you like i'm doing ones i like this was a passion project yeah i'm good gems and the basketball one where that was great i've watched that on the basketball wasn't bad at all yeah i like that one it's gonna sound crazy i preferred that over uncut gems dude uncut gems i've still only seen once because it gave me too much stress too much anxiety i thought
Starting point is 02:37:22 it was great but it was one of those movies where you're like jesus christ it's like call me a family i was like i can't see that again can't watch it on an adderall yeah yeah it's like too much i watched i watched flight with a hangover and i was like it was the most he was a character he was trying to like yeah it was the most stress i've ever been in my time yeah dude just stop just stop we almost had adam sandler kind of on our podcast oh i think we have the audio that we that was just happened to be recording at the time we were at nobu malibu right yeah nobu malibu interviewing logic like on the fucking private yeah the private room in the balcony that overlooks the ocean it was it was actually a really great pod and we're setting up and you just hear the
Starting point is 02:38:02 most iconic laugh like there's no way that's anyone but Adam Sandler. Turn around, he's in Noble Malibu in basketball shorts past his knees. The old school shorts, like the Fab Five. Those old eyes with the fucking, yeah, yeah, yeah. T-shirts, sneakers. Turn around, see him like, Adam, he's like, just a thumbs up. Just seeing what you guys are doing. I was like, he's living life.
Starting point is 02:38:22 That podcast with Logic featuring Adam Sandler. Exactly, he's living life it was one of those starstruck moments where rarely happen when you literally like at a loss of words
Starting point is 02:38:30 of just an aura of a human being being there that's not cause he also like he's not he's in the spotlight cause he does do a movie
Starting point is 02:38:38 every year it's not like he's gone but you rarely see him out otherwise and when you do he's always just like when he presents at an award show he's just like you see him at a. And when you do, he's always just like – when he presents at an award show, he's just like a good dude.
Starting point is 02:38:46 You see him at a random park in California hooping. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And well. Yeah, and it's like, is that really him though? He's moved into that part of life where it's like, is that really him? No, that's him. I saw a video a few times because I'm from Boston. I'm from Massachusetts.
Starting point is 02:39:01 And I follow a lot of Boston sports reports and stuff like that. And I've seen tons of people reposting a Tatum pass from last night. Tatum was behind three-point line. Zoomed across the court. I was like, I've seen Adam Sandler do that 20 times. Not even in press.
Starting point is 02:39:18 I was like, what a pass of Tatum. Sandman crushes that. Sandman's court vision second-time non-dude. He can really play though. Sandman's court vision second to none, dude. He can really play, though. Yeah. He walks around and gets a triple-double. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:39:30 Every time he goes to the park. So you're from Boston. So bigger movie from a guy from Boston, Departed or The Town? Fuck. That's a great question. It's a great question. It's going to be a shitty answer. I think they're both okay.
Starting point is 02:39:44 Really? Really. I think they're both. That's class of me, dude. i think you can't go home ever again i think they both i actually think i like the town better um but i think if you're trying to capture like boston like the departed could be could happen in other cities i feel like you know what i mean the town you need like the town you know the i think the town's better and And also, I'm a bad judge because I like, like, kind of meh action movies.
Starting point is 02:40:08 John, like, is my guy. Okay. He likes trash movies. Okay. Like Fast and Furious? Fast and Furious.
Starting point is 02:40:13 Love it. So you love Delta Force from the 80s with Chuck Norris? No, they're not. The 80s are too bad. The 80s had some
Starting point is 02:40:21 of the worst movies ever. Bro, you go back and watch some of those ones that you thought as a kid were... Robocop might of the worst movies ever. You go back and watch some of those ones that you thought as a kid.
Starting point is 02:40:26 Robocop might be the worst movie. That specifically. It looks like trash. The effects are terrible. It's terrible. The plot doesn't make sense. It's so bad.
Starting point is 02:40:36 I like the late 90s. Tears of the Fallen Sun was the Blue Hills one. Don't look at me. Those movies suck. Steven Seagal is probably your favorite combat. No, don't see Too Bad as well.
Starting point is 02:40:46 It's a fine line for John. Late 90s, early 2000s. Late 90s, early 2000s. Tears of the Fallen what? Bruce Willis. Oh, that was a good movie. Yeah, that's a good movie. No, it's not. It might be an entertaining movie.
Starting point is 02:41:02 It's not a good movie. I don't like bad movies. I like entertaining movies. I like a Saturday afternoon an entertaining movie. It's not a good movie. That's what I like. I don't like bad movies. I like entertaining movies. And so I like a Saturday afternoon TNT movie, like Shooter with Wahlberg. Oh, okay. Phenomenal. That's right there. And The Town is more that than The Departed is.
Starting point is 02:41:15 I really can't think of The Departed without laughing. And it's a fucking good movie. It's a great movie. Where does it lose you, though? The Rat. The Rat is so laughable. The Rat running over the fucking... Yeah, they hit you over the head with that one.
Starting point is 02:41:27 So after a four-hour movie, the last 15 seconds, the movie's in the way. I'm done with this. No, the movie's over. No, you just watched four hours. I also, I think part of that is being from Massachusetts.
Starting point is 02:41:40 And there was that run where like just every movie made was in Boston. And because it's all in Boston, everyone from Boston is like, it's the best movie ever. And I think when I'm being surrounded by that by a decade, I'm a bit of a contrarian where I start to be like, all right, let's fucking relax. The way to describe John's movie taste or movie fandom is he was crying to the movie miracle with his girlfriend and that that was ruined when they play uh football outside in christmas just for america herb we're a family she was laying on his chest and an awful boston accent too she broke up with him a week later it was
Starting point is 02:42:25 over can't cry in front of a girl i can't i can't that it is uh he's a hockey guy too oh he might be we had cam run in a couple days ago and uh big hockey guy at the very end he's like before we let you go cam what do you think you think the bruins are gonna get it done best regular season of all time are they gonna win the cup and cup? And obviously, you know, Cam was like, I don't know. And they start joking around. And then it kind of got serious about John being like the hockey correspondent
Starting point is 02:42:50 for their new show. It is what it is. Because he was like, people haven't asked me what we're going to do about hockey. And I was like, I was obviously very joking. I'll be your high-growth finalist.
Starting point is 02:42:59 No, no, I want to do that. He was like, yo, take this guy's number down. We're going to do it. They still have not contacted him. That would be funny though. That's some funny shit. That would be hilarious.
Starting point is 02:43:08 Have you had him on before? Have you done anything with Cam? No. No, Cam said in a freestyle, I'm only doing a podcast for Gillian Wallow. Other than that, it's $175,000 to book me. And then Maul and I were like, let's delete that email. How do you unsend a text? I don't think I can afford him. I guess we skipped the fee. It was our budget for the year
Starting point is 02:43:27 Now you owe him a whole new show You're dead to him forever now You took me to work and do it for free Dude I mean it's It's very funny It's a good take on that whole You know the whole Part of my take did it obviously
Starting point is 02:43:44 Satirizing it. But the way they do it is. It's funny. Yeah, they're good at that. Yeah. Looking at that, I just hate the fact that they robbed us. Him and Mase robbed us of some great music, man. I wish they could have, like, mended their relationship.
Starting point is 02:43:56 Really? I didn't realize. The chemistry between them is amazing. I thought they got. I thought they smoothed things over, like, a couple years ago. And he was saying it was just August. Yeah, no. I thought it was. Ronnie and Sam from the ago. And he was saying it was just August. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 02:44:06 I thought it was... Ronnie and Sam from the Jersey Shore. Yeah. Some days they're great, other days they're not. Yeah, I could definitely see that being the case with those two. Speaking of movies and cam, though, are you a Peyton Ful fan? I am not. Are you more of a killer season guy? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:44:19 Oh, you got to watch Peyton Ful. It's like the black version of Departed. You're joking, but Peyton Fce, the black version of Departed. It really is. One is in Harlem, one is in Boston. Same shit. And then in Killer Season, he pisses on a girl. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:44:34 Like a child. Have you ever seen an actual baby? He found the video of him in Walgreens with a chick sticking shit between her ass cheeks. Have you ever seen that? Cam was like vlogging and on social media like early, right? And he went through a Walgreens with this girl and she was putting like water bottles and
Starting point is 02:44:53 bottles of mayonnaise like in between her ass cheeks like stealing shit from the store. And it is the funniest fucking video. Not stealing. In the video Cam was like, we're going to pay for it. She's just carrying it. She's going to put it back on the shelf. Imagine that.
Starting point is 02:45:09 Actually, at one point, she does it. She takes a Pepsi bottle, and she shoves it between her cheeks, and she goes, and she runs. She starts twerking, and I don't know how it stays. It's crazy. Defy gravity. She's getting down. She's full down, and somehow it's staying in there. And then she walks back to the cashier and puts it down.
Starting point is 02:45:30 And from that point on, my attention was just on the bottle. I was like, what's he going to do with that? She's clearly not wearing underwear. She makes that known. No, clearly. That bottle's slippery. She's like, ah, shit. And he actually gets a gun, and he kind of holds it like that.
Starting point is 02:45:46 And I was like, she's a very pretty woman. Very talented. Yeah, yeah. I think Cameron did say she was a stripper. Yeah, I think she was. Something is safe. I'm pretty sure. Who's that girl?
Starting point is 02:45:58 He's like, man, I'm a stripper. Those are measurements of those skills. She's not an attorney. My brain would go in a different place and just sit there and wonder if Cam was going to put in like his Dwayne Reed number I wonder if he gets reward points I gotta get my points
Starting point is 02:46:10 on that five dollars off the mayonnaise in her ass he was a funny dude he was really genuinely nice too he was very gracious he was the man yeah
Starting point is 02:46:17 Cam was super cool what was the other was State Property was the Rockefeller movie yeah State Property I don't think I ever saw that one but I remember that
Starting point is 02:46:23 he was in State Property 2 yeah the. He was in state property too. Yeah. Dipset was in state property too. There was a run of some of those movies that was like, hip hop getting into the movies was a fun era. It was so fun, man.
Starting point is 02:46:34 I'm not even joking around, Mo. Were you in any of those? No. No, not in the background. I know like Wayno was an extra in one of them. Yeah, nah, nah. I never did any of those.
Starting point is 02:46:42 All back in like 98 or some shit in the background never never went to sets and see what the craft table was looking like i stay far away from those sets have you guys seen this uh this show jury duty that's on amazon right now no it's like a uh this is like this reality tv show social experiment sort of thing where it's a whole it's a entirely fake fabricated civil case and every – one dude thinks it's real. The rest are all actors. And it's just like they put him through the ringer of just like crazy comedic shit that's just like wild.
Starting point is 02:47:14 And this dude is – and the whole setup was we're making a documentary about jury duty. So they have him on camera saying all this shit and he's just like – he's just going through the craziness of it all. Anyway, we interviewed him and yesterday we did it through zoom and uh and he's this really nice kind of goofy guy and video pops up and he's got a big g unit shirt on and i was just like oh and never in a million years did i think i was gonna see this dude rocking g unit he's like yeah man i gotta rep i was like rep what i gotta rep the set can you imagine if that wasn't fake and you were fighting for your life in court and the guy that's gonna decide your innocence was wearing a g unit just take me now the tweet though like dude this is my lawyer i'm going to jail in the the young thug rico case definitely this is my latest the um in the
Starting point is 02:48:06 the young thug rico case that lawyer is saying cap the other day you see that oh yeah i don't know if that was it was just someone in yeah there's i mean have you seen the like in the courtroom there's like 500 dudes all whoever's attorney that was is done and then uh like a court reporter uh like caught him afterwards and was doing like a social media video and was like, explain to the people out there what's the legal definition of cap. And this dude is like still leaning into it. Like he wasn't like, oh, my God, I can't believe I fucking said cap in court. He was proud of it. And then there's another one I just saw today.
Starting point is 02:48:39 He got hit with a – he's got to do a 17-page paper on the importance of professionalism in the courtroom because he was just like being a dickhead and not being like respectful of the other lawyers. Just hold me in contempt. I'll do the 30 days. So if he doesn't do a 17-page paper, he gets 20 days in jail. Oh, give me the 20 days. Do some push-ups. He was like, your honor, can I give you $250? And originally, the offer was $1,000 fine, or you got to do this paper.
Starting point is 02:49:12 And I guess he was being an asshole, said like, I'm not paying you. And then the judge was like, how are you doing on your essay? He said, it's got to be works cited. It's got to be like Harvard Business School level, whatever. And the guy goes, I'd rather give you $250. And the judge goes, I bet you would. Of course he'd rather give me a $250 than a 17-page paper. I'll do three weeks in jail.
Starting point is 02:49:33 20 days during Ramadan? Yeah, no. I'm in mad calm right now. Give me the time. That case is a circus. We're on three months. They're just picking the jury. They haven't even gotten to that yet i mean not to say that lawyer is doing that but so many lawyers in those cases do try to find
Starting point is 02:49:49 their viral moments because they know they're going to lose the case let's make it as well that cap shit is going to go crazy his name is going to be there next time somebody gets arrested it's like oh let me go find the guy yeah even though that's the last guy you really want but it's the name you know whatever it is cool We were just talking about – I just watched this movie. It came out a while ago, but Richard Jewell. Oh, yeah. And his lawyer was just like – he was a real estate lawyer, but he's the only lawyer whose number he knew. Yeah, the lawyer had no business.
Starting point is 02:50:15 I don't know. He was showing up to work every day in sandals. No one was hiring him. And his secretary, who they weirdly reveal at the end of the movie is like his wife. The whole movie just seems like it's his secretary. And she's like, oh, fine. We'll just find another major case for you to go he's like fine i guess i'll do it and then i don't know i feel like it's your responsibility to tell the guy by the way i do real estate law like you're being tried for me for terrorism and i do real estate Are you an escrow?
Starting point is 02:50:48 I'll help you close on your mortgage. I can't help you. The greatest movie lawyer ever is my cousin Vinny. It's a great one. By far. I like McConaughey in A Time to Kill. Yeah. It's a great moment. That's a little more serious.
Starting point is 02:51:00 Yeah, that's my cousin Vinny. He's always wet. That's what I like about him. Well, he's hot. He's hot down in those, whatever state that was. Down in the Bible Belt. Underrated lawyer, Robert Downey Jr. and The Judge. Bro! Great movie!
Starting point is 02:51:16 We're finding some synergy. Bro! Didn't agree with the party, but The Judge. Dude, I actually re-watched that fairly recently. And if you haven't seen the movie, it's Robert Downey Jr. Robert Duvall is his dad. Entire judge killed somebody. And his brother, he goes home to go represent his father, help his father out.
Starting point is 02:51:40 And his, I don't know how they really define it but he's clearly has some kind of special needs his brother steps out onto the porch kendall roy yeah jerry jerry was strong wow jerry i've never seen him in anything me neither is that you know what's the wildest part about the judge and spoiler alert at the end at some point he makes out with who he thinks is his daughter he goes back to the small town on purpose no goes back to like the small town he grew up in and meets a girl at the bar makes out with her she's like fucking 22 and he's 40 then meets his ex-girlfriend finds out that's his daughter finds out in the end it's not but it's actually his brother's kid and he's totally fine that he made out with his niece though oh it's not my it's not my daughter's home there's like a sigh of relief at the moment he was like okay so she's not my daughter but she's still your niece
Starting point is 02:52:33 still disgusting to me that was way crazier than the rat like why is he okay with making out with his niece though do you know what we about movies that we're like, that didn't really mean what you think it meant. Where the, speaking of Sandman, the end of 50 First Dates, where she, you know, 50 First Dates? Yeah. Where Drew Barrymore, if you're not listening, you don't know. Cripplingly sad movie when you think about it. Drew Barrymore has some head injury and every day is the same day for her. And at the end, she watches a movie of her life.
Starting point is 02:53:07 And she thinks she's still the person who's going to buy a pineapple that day or whatever they were doing. Someone with a pineapple. And she watches this movie to catch her up on where she is. And then she walks out. She realizes she's on a boat. And then she walks outside. And Adam Sandler's there. And she's in Alaska.
Starting point is 02:53:23 And she has a baby. That's not a feel-good story. You kidnapped a woman, fast-forwarded her 20 years, she's got a kid now and lives in Alaska. By the way, they try to make Adam Sandler's character romantic in that. Lock him up. Yo, that is the creepiest guy on earth. That guy, that's a sex crime, in my opinion.
Starting point is 02:53:46 That's a weird you woke up you think about that a beautiful day in hawaii for the yes for the 7 000th day in a row they used to make some wild movies like that they're making a new one with um jennifer lawrence jennifer lawrence she's uh imagine that movie in the me too movement well that's so that's what's crazy this this movie is modern-day shit. There's two parents who have a nerdy, virgin high school kid, and they hire Jennifer Lawrence, who's the fucking host. What's the name of that? Did it come out yet? I don't think it's come out yet.
Starting point is 02:54:17 It did. The Red Band trailer came out a couple weeks ago or whatever, and it was just like, yeah, I'll fuck him. She was like, do you want me to date him or date him? And the parents were like, date him. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah this is some shit that would come out in the early 2000s not 2023 i guess that's a good sign maybe we're getting back to but but we talked about it because it's no hard feelings we talked about that because sick titles levels to this shit that's a bar right there it's almost accepted that way but if it was reversed totally it would never that wouldn't even go to production if you had a male fucking teenage girl we gotta get our daughter
Starting point is 02:54:48 laid yeah no that would never go to production would never make my daughter's cherry i've been watching like weird i've been like binge watching like treehouse masters what is that like this guy like he just goes to like different people's properties that want to build like a treehouse on their property i guess i could have guessed that and he's just like building like these elaborate like i'm talking about he's putting like full-on like spas inside of the trees like it's showers it's pimp my ride for the oak tree and i'm like am i the only one that's fascinated with this no i could get down with a fucking dope treehouse no it's like insane though the shit that they're doing with these treehouses like you have to watch treehouse masters it It's insane what they're doing.
Starting point is 02:55:26 Let's do a bar school. I'm talking about carpet. What channel? Is there property tax on that? How does it work? I want to say it's either on TLC or- I'm going to get a treehouse. A&E, maybe?
Starting point is 02:55:35 One of those channels. They'll do anything. One of those channels that's made for grandma to stay home all day and watch TV. Dude, I had a treehouse in my backyard when I was a kid, and it was- No, you haven't had a treehouse until you see these treehouses. Oh, it was awful. It was like three 2x4s, and that's it. That was it.
Starting point is 02:55:52 It was a diving board. And my dad... Going to the treehouse, huh? My dad had to take it down. I'm on a tree, Dad. Because I would fucking... I would... This is probably...
Starting point is 02:56:02 I'm unpacking it. This is probably... Could have predicted some things and I would just drag bags of leaves out and dive into them my dad was like I gotta take the treehouse down like three times every time you have to stop diving into
Starting point is 02:56:16 a bag of leaves it's hilarious I had when I was like this is probably like fifth grade area and it was like what do you want to be again now that I'm starting to say it I don't know what you're about to say but that's usually how it goes it was like a fifth grade like class thing
Starting point is 02:56:32 where it was like what do you want to be when you grow up and I was like I want to be a kid who lives in this tree house again it wasn't a tree house I lived outside and lives in a tree house with his dolls look around the room everybody that's how you become a yeah we're in the treehouse this is it you achieved your dream bud holy shit not all that sounds like to be the plot to uh what's that scary not inherited um uh hereditary hereditary yeah that's pretty much the plot they
Starting point is 02:57:03 were in the tree lost their head in that movie you seen it bro it's one of my favorite movies and what a relief because that fucking ticking noise she was making thank god they killed her earlier annoying yo i watched that that movie alone in my house like by myself and i was like you know that was only a few years ago like grown-ass adult and i was like scared i yo, this movie, I'm turning this shit off. That shit scared me the fuck out. I saw an Am I the Asshole the other day that I was reading, and I was like, this sounds familiar. Am I the Asshole. I, 16-year-old male, brought my sister, nine female, to a party where she had an allergic reaction to walnuts.
Starting point is 02:57:39 And on our way to the hospital, she stuck her head out the window and was decapitated because I swerved near a telephone pole. And now my mom is screaming in my face about the dinner. And I kept driving. That's great. Holy shit. And maybe I'll match you on some of the sickness. I would have just given in and joined up with the devil. The same way in I Am Legend, I'm like, what is Will Smith fighting against?
Starting point is 02:58:06 Just go hang with him, man. We've been saying that a lot. Probably too much, but just like bad shit going on. It's like, okay, I'll just go with the bad guys. Whatever, bro. Listen, now I'm Dennis Rodman because they're bowing to this kid. The moment he went to Treehouse, he was God of the devil. I Am Legend is another underrated movie to me.
Starting point is 02:58:25 Haven't seen that one. They're making that – You've never seen I Am Legend? Yeah, I don't know. I think someone spoiled it and I was just like – Well, okay. I actually – and now that I'm saying it, I don't even know how it ends anymore. It wasn't true that –
Starting point is 02:58:36 I thought like they said that him and Michael B. Jordan were making a sequel, but then that was like – I definitely heard now you say Michael B. Jordan. But then I think they said that was not real or not official. It was just talked about. Something like that. I hope not. Just leave it as is. See, I'm okay with... If you make something and it sucks, then it's just like, okay, I forget about it.
Starting point is 02:58:56 It's like Jordan on the Wizards. It doesn't really ruin... Oh, when people say that, I told you it was shitty father. No one talks about that. If it's good, then great. We got a new movie. And if it sucks, we just pretend it didn't happen. Yeah. Do you think he wanted to kill his family, Will Smith, in that movie? Like, how did you not see him running to the helicopter?
Starting point is 02:59:14 It's like, you know, it's too late. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A little foresight here. Aren't you the scientist here? Yeah, you should have figured that shit out. You sacrificed your children. And kept your dog. Yeah only yeah i was gonna say you know what's the like worse than being alone in civilization with your dog is being alone with
Starting point is 02:59:30 your fucking kids like listen there's only room for one of us here go on the helicopter with your mom get out of here kids that's hilarious holy shit i love my kids it's okay uh what do you what do you think you guys would be doing if you weren't doing this is there a plan a or b or is this plan c what is this you know i don't know man i'm probably i would probably live living like on a beach somewhere in the island somewhere i always regret selling seashells or something i swear to god i was thinking about this the other day i want to like tell my kids like you know I'm lucky enough to get some money from this place, and I want to be like, I'll take care of you, and if you want to go be a bartender in the Bahamas and just live a simple, happy life, go do it.
Starting point is 03:00:14 Yeah. Because sometimes I think doing all this shit, it's like being ambitious, and it's cool, and there's opportunities and all that, but there are people who are just doing the simple life. Oh, man. I'm jealous of that. I there are people who are just doing the simple life. Oh, man. I'm jealous of that. Probably so happy. I'm jealous of that type of shit.
Starting point is 03:00:28 I still think about it. There's one time I was with my family. We were on vacation in the British Virgin Islands. I think it was St. Thomas. And we were on a boat, like a booze cruise. It wasn't a booze cruise. We were on a boat that had a bar. And talking to the bartender, he was like,
Starting point is 03:00:42 how did you come down here? I was like, I came down for vacation, never left. And he's like, you want to know something awesome i woke up this morning there was a rooster in my bathtub and i was like i don't know why that's so awesome but it does yeah i want to live a life where i could wake up to a rooster in my bathroom is that so is that so crazy i could do that for like a month well that is the thing too i wonder sometimes it's but i think it's different when you're certain you know like i i feel like i have this drive and this ambition to like a lot of it is you know you want to make money and all that shit but it's also like i just want to put out good shit and i want to put out the better than that guy and you know but there are if you if you don't have that and you are just like i want to have a small family or just a
Starting point is 03:01:21 couple friends you want to be single whatever if you have that simple mentality god damn that's nice i i think it's a part it's just about accepting it like if you're accepting this is what i'm doing like that then like uh we had uh arian foster as a podcast here uh micro dosing and there was a video that instagram posted the other day and it was arian talking about how like he has like three or four days he can go on vacation and then he's back to it yeah and i'm the same way i was i was i was in jamaica for like five days and i was like this sucks but that's because we know we're coming back yeah if you are just like i'm here then then i think it's i think you're probably i mean i think if you talk about being on an island i think
Starting point is 03:02:00 that may get you know kind of boring quickly but if you just talk about just traveling and like different places on vacation. Always keep switching up. Yeah. I don't see how that could ever get boring. But that's where you need money. Oh, yeah. You definitely need money for that.
Starting point is 03:02:11 The trade-off of it's like I've always said, get a fucking jet ski, go down to one of these islands, rent it out for 50 bucks for a half hour, and then you live on the beach. And it's not going to be glamorous, but most people are trying to take vacations where you could live every day. And to your original question, I wouldn't even know how to answer it because say i wanted to be a garbage man which is a great job i think that would only last for three years before i'd want something else something else that's just how i'm wired are you getting bored of this no because there's so much space to do other things within it it's kind of just like a big genre, whereas a job can be this.
Starting point is 03:02:46 This is different than doing morning radio, where it's like, this is the gig. Podcasting allows you to do so much other things that are tied to podcasting, but not quite that, more or less. I remember Minahan asked me that once. I went on his podcast because he was like, I don't know, someone had argued about something was like i'm not gonna argue like i'm not doing that and he's like okay i guess we gotta pivot uh what do you want to do in five years and i was like i was like i i actually i will be doing this ks radio but aside from that in five years i'll be doing nothing i do right now like be the merch or something like yeah every and that was about five years I'll be doing nothing I do right now. Like be it the merch or something. And that was about five years ago. And everything I'm doing now,
Starting point is 03:03:27 that's not, everything's KC Radio with Jason. But like it's all shit I wasn't doing five years ago. It's all like the same gig, but just different kind of variations of it. I mean, you guys are doing the bare minimum, of course.
Starting point is 03:03:37 You gotta do the bare minimum. That's what life is. Even with the privilege of this gig, like Maul and i went two hours outside of mexico city for a week and brought our equipment yeah and we recorded there like i've always told him especially during the pandemic if i didn't have two kids i feel like we could have taken this on the road we could rent houses we could bounce around that's the beauty with the content so much of this because we talk so fucking much
Starting point is 03:04:05 you do run out of shit to talk about or you start talking about things you don't care about and it shows yeah you have to go out and live to do this job trust me man again i i there was like a several year period where it was just like work and then take care of my kids work and take care of my kids and like i didn't have any stories i didn't have any fucking did you think yourself falling into like a depression in that um zone uh i think i'm depressed and i don't know it so like i would never have been like there was never a moment where i was like i'm depressed but like looking back on it and probably even currently you can see it i think there's probably yeah oh this is depression yeah there's a lot of times where i say, I think I'm depressed, guys, and all these guys go, yeah, do we know? You're late.
Starting point is 03:04:48 You're the last to find out. Yeah, for real. That's how it goes with depression a lot of times. Yeah. I also think there's a difference of depression. I hesitate to say depression because I know there are people who can't get out of bed in the morning. I'm depressed in the sense of, I don't know, I got some issues and shit I got to work through, but I'm still. Everything Kevin says, I don't know if anyone here watches Parks and Rec,
Starting point is 03:05:07 but everything Kevin says is like when Andy's at the charity and they're like, Andy, he's just staring out a window. I'm like, Andy, are you okay? And he goes, I'm fine. It's just life is pointless and nothing matters. I'm always tired and I can't sleep and I'm overeating. And none of my hobbies interest me anymore that's me bro that's fucking me the joke is kevin that he's depressed yeah
Starting point is 03:05:30 because you know obviously mental health took over the podcast space as much as it did everywhere else as far as the narrative and as someone that you know was going to therapy before it was trendy i'm the hipster of therapy. Very much so. Therapy's mainstream now. It's like, I'm not really into it. Oh, dude, I completely agree. It really is. Therapy's gone pop, and I don't like it anymore, man.
Starting point is 03:05:54 Once Whole Foods opened up across the street from therapy, it was kind of like, I'm so done with it. They opened a Chipotle and a Starbucks in therapy. Therapy's on the radio now. But to what you just read, therapy sometimes can be bad yeah self-awareness can make you more fucking depressed the more you learn about yourself you're like fuck bro i feel like i'm the most self-aware person in the world even if i'm maybe not acting on it and it doesn't look
Starting point is 03:06:17 that way trust me on the inside i know what the fuck is up and going on and it's like that's that i think is what prevents us from being those people who can just live on the beach because you're you're i'm self-aware to a fault and i'm always thinking about what could be or can be and those people just wake up and they don't care you know they don't have that and they're and they're happy every day is a new adventure like what's today yeah and and going and today might just be i gotta go to the grocery store but when i'm there the cashier is gonna tell me a joke and i'm going to be happy about it. And that's it, dude. Simple.
Starting point is 03:06:47 I'm glad you said something that you were probably joking about, but I think I'm going to go further with it. Where you're like, therapy is actually bad. There was a tweet that went, I don't know if it went viral or whatever. Someone here quote tweeted it. I didn't check the numbers on it on that. And I read it. I scanned it. I read the headline.
Starting point is 03:07:03 And it was like therapy is actually has kind of jumped the shark and then i was reading it and it was like a lot of things my therapist said to me and the moment i was like that's bad advice and it was talking about how like therapy speak has gone too far where like if you talk to a therapist and you're like you need to cut them out of your life like they don't you don't have the capacity for them right now the capacity for that and i remember like at the beginning of the pandemic i was like i go to therapy and i was like you know i got like six friends who were dying like and she's like you're balancing six bowls and like that's you can't do that put them down i was like so what the fuck are you telling
Starting point is 03:07:36 me to do right now like you're telling me you don't feel like doing your job because like help me through this yeah yeah your advice is stop doing it that doesn't work no no no that whole that uh it doesn't serve you should i had an argument i'm i'm between therapists now i had to let go of one of them and one of our second to last sessions maybe she billed me when i fired her like i fired on the last i didn't pay for my last one either and she billed me and was like, I should have just texted you. But we were talking about something in regards to my life that required me to just suck it up. Like be a fucking man.
Starting point is 03:08:16 This is a responsibility. You got bills to pay. Like all this is serving you. Like you need to think about, you know, like, no, this is a situation where you have to be a man and just step up and not fucking complain. Listen, I'm with feelings. I get it.
Starting point is 03:08:31 This is awful advice. If you're doing this with other people, they're going to miss a mortgage payment. Their children may not. This is awful advice to tell an adult. Everyone's a narcissist. Everyone is gaslighting. everyone doesn't have the capacity it's like yo these you're all parroting my therapist says my therapist says my therapist
Starting point is 03:08:53 says it's like crazy how about just fucking get back to like living and working and she literally she's like stop it was like a friend who was like going into rehab and had all these mental issues and she's like you need to stop talking i was like a friend who was going into rehab and had all these mental issues. And she's like, you need to stop talking. I was like, I don't think that's what I'm going to do. She's like, stop being a friend. My favorite thing to do was during the pandemic, we was kind of trying to figure life out. And everybody was downloading the Citizen app. And to me, that was the best therapy. It was like, you go on that app, it's somebody shot three blocks over.
Starting point is 03:09:23 Somebody stabbed two blocks down. I'm like, okay, my life is not that bad like somebody's getting killed right downstairs like yo for real i thought we all supposed to be in the house like what the fuck is going on outside i like the citizens app where it was like uh it particularly in new york where i was just like thinking about how you how you compare it to if you lived elsewhere where like if you lived in the suburbs and it was like someone on your block literally just got stabbed and was like
Starting point is 03:09:46 that's right I need milk would that happen in the suburbs it'd be like a walkout right yeah absolutely it's like outside of
Starting point is 03:09:54 like a famous deli someone's just stabbed it's like yeah I am I am do you change color go right out there duck under the crime scene
Starting point is 03:10:03 that's a great point so uh we got into it about barstool so we got to talk about you guys and your business i know uh you know you kind of addressed it on on the one of the latest episodes but been a lot of back and forth with the previous podcast you guys were on uh what actually let me tell you real quick just uh free free therapy on not you know unsolicited yeah get off of reddit bro get off of reddit i heard you guys mentioned it a couple times in the show recently the reddit will just fucking no they try to they try to get me already live i don't be all right don't do it because even even really mind it even when i was on it i I went through, like, I created the Barstool Reddit.
Starting point is 03:10:47 Okay. Thinking it was going to be like a place. Oppenheimer. Yeah, for real. A lot of positive energy, right? I guess I did not know. I definitely did not know Reddit, like what Reddit people are like. And I thought it was going to be a place.
Starting point is 03:11:01 Let's create a community where everyone can connect. I thought it was like a place we're going to find content. Let's build each other up. Oh, boy, was I wrong. That shit turned on you real quick. They fucking hated me. And I would do what I think you're doing now is the same thing. I would like I would read it and I wouldn't let it affect what I'm doing.
Starting point is 03:11:20 Yeah, but it does. But it and it does. And it fucks with you. And even if you're like strong enough to be like, OK, but fuck you. And I'm still going to keep doing what I'm doing, it's just not healthy to read all that shit. It's not. It gets into your fucking brain even if you don't think it does. But I know there was just a lot of gossip and a lot of chatter. And that all started from the list, right?
Starting point is 03:11:40 The complex list or whatever you guys were going through. Yeah, these guys. It's been bubbling and boiling for a while now right these guys well julian particularly he made me uh he wanted to react to the list and i do the producers are always trying they're always like you want me to bring him in here and we can get him on the no no no i want a motherfucker behind his back like i said to his face are you kidding me last episode's title was Rory is Drake's Munch. I'm like, thanks, producer. I know it's clickable, but fuck.
Starting point is 03:12:11 They're not helping me out, bro. The thing with that was it's because it's a real thing for Rory and myself. I understand how to others they just want it to be entertaining and they want us to go back. It's like wrestling.
Starting point is 03:12:22 Yeah, they want us to go back and forth, but it's like, you know, it's a real thing yeah you know it was a real situation that happened that um we we went through and we dealt with um but it it started to get um a little too personal and and you know i'm i'm all with entertaining and you know because we built a a fan base and and we built a following so we owe them the story we owe them what happened like what and we did that and there's been little back and forths
Starting point is 03:12:51 throughout the the last two three years about it but um you know it's the last exchange it got a it started because i know where rory and myself can take it. Yeah. Because we know the real story. We know what really happened. We know things that really are going on. So it just was like we could entertain us and have fun and air out a whole bunch of shit. But I'm one of those guys, man, where my integrity is just it's not for entertaining, especially when it's personal. And I wanted to go back and forth and i wanted to entertain and then you know we had a whole bunch of things that we could have said and but i always go back to the you know the feeling of it's kind of like post nut clarity when you have sex with somebody you shouldn't and you're in the bathroom you're in the bathroom
Starting point is 03:13:40 after you're like why did i just do that so it's kind of like we can go back and forth. We can do this forever. But then it's like, I'm going to look up one day and be like, why? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah, because people do. It will get views and it gets downloads. Yeah, it's like it's for the moment. And as soon as somebody clicks refresh, it's the next top story.
Starting point is 03:13:59 So it's like, why did we entertain that? Why did we go back and forth? When again, it's a real situation. It's a real thing. Like, you know, it's something that we went through. go back and forth? When again, it's a real situation. It's a real thing. Like, you know, it's something that we went through. And, you know, I mean, I'm all for entertaining. I'm all for having fun. And, you know, people say, oh, you know, it's just have fun.
Starting point is 03:14:12 Don't take it personal. I'm like, but it is. But it is. Yeah. That was the funniest thing, speaking of Reddit, with the last five minute response I gave, which to me was like, all right, this is, it's done now. When I was like, it was just leave me the fuck alone. You shut up.
Starting point is 03:14:24 I'll shut up. We move on with our lives. I'm cool. Everyone in the comments, Twitter, everything, yo, you sound hurt. Yeah. Right, right. Oh my God, look how hurt Roy sounds.
Starting point is 03:14:35 I'm like, yeah. I went through some shit that hurt. Like, no, that's not offending me. I sounded hurt because I was hurt. Yeah, no, i mean that it like the the line between real life and i mean i've i dealt with my whole life because i stupidly made my content my life yeah when things were good it was fun right i was like let's talk about everything shit gets bad well you can't you can't close the door on that you can't you know put that
Starting point is 03:15:01 back and you talk about everything else yeah yeah right right i also hate that too though it's like okay well i give you 99 of my life can i have the one percent you know no no if you give me 99 you have to give me 100 fuck you no i don't you know i don't have to give you anything so if you know it's like the fans want it it's it's like you know i don't think and when there when there is more to the story in whatever situation you may be dealing with and then online, you could say it, but it's going to be 10,000 times worse. Like I said, it's – but it's like for what? You know what I mean? Like for what? Especially what I've learned, you can't change minds.
Starting point is 03:15:38 You can't. And the thing is, our story is going to stay the same because it's the truth. So it's like how many times do you want us to keep repeating the same thing? It's like this is what happened. No, but I think people probably know that there's always more to the story. And so they want to hear the full truth. Or they just completely make up their own. Yeah, brother.
Starting point is 03:15:58 Let me tell you, bro. There are rumors about me that I'm like this is fucking insane. That you would put like ridiculous stories and i'm like come on guys the speculation is fine if you want to think something like oh yeah let me try to concoct my own story of what i bet i think it's not that's fine it's the people that with such confidence it is it's true what what tell me my business it gets weird yeah i it's the catch 22 of the shit those people are extremely important so as much as you say for your own mental health don't look at reddit i look at it because it is important yeah even if it's negative i get that unfortunately that's
Starting point is 03:16:36 the space we live in and it's not just podcasting it's the world yeah i do get that and and but i went through a phase where i was talking i was thinking about the most diehard barstool fans are they are important and even if they're like shitting on me they are the ones who are clicking and reading and listening the most but then you especially when you get to the level that i think we are all at with our shows there's a lot of other people yeah who are not fucking trolling the reddit and are and just love your show and you know want good things for you you know i mean it's just it's weird now because we now you know when you try to be private it's like oh you're acting weird yeah it's like no i'm some things are just right yeah like some things are just private yeah i understand this is entertainment podcasting and
Starting point is 03:17:19 we talk about everything to what everybody else's issues and things going on so when it's us we should talk about us as well but it's like within that some things should remain private i also go back and forth on that where they're like oh well you know you you talk about everyone else so you know why do you get a free pass i'm like i don't know because it's double standard motherfuckers sometimes it's that simple you think of these rules oh oh they're not talking about that person because it's their friend yup that's why I have admitted to that
Starting point is 03:17:51 hey bias over here we never said we were unbiased absolutely from an outsider it does seem like you guys have told the line well and I do think though it's I guess a good sign that you know i've always felt when people care this much and want your dirt and want the fight
Starting point is 03:18:10 and want the battle it means they're interested and you're doing something good and you're you know you have a successful show and all that people when they're invested and that's a good word emotionally uh you know they spend a lot of time in their real lives listening to us right throughout their commutes to work, school, or whatever. So when things happen to something that they come to fall in love with, they want to know, damn, what the fuck happened? It's like, okay, well, we told you, and we continue to go back and forth and drop little dimes here and there. But then it gets to a point where it's like, this has to stop at some point because it's going to go somewhere else. Well, and you know what?
Starting point is 03:18:46 At the end of the day, those fans who maybe you finally give them what they want, maybe next week they pick up a new podcast or they switch their commute so they no longer listen to podcasts. And they're fucking gone. And you blew up your whole shit for them and they don't even listen anymore. So what's even the point? That can't be your most compelling content because you're going to continue to chase drama and then you're going to start creating drama that doesn't exist to begin with. And now you're in a cycle
Starting point is 03:19:12 that is not long lasting at all. I mean, I think you guys have done a great job of standing on your own too and pivoting a little bit. You're going in a little more comedy direction. We want to have fun, man. This is supposed to be fun. We like getting up and're going to a little more comedy direction and yeah um we want to have fun man this is supposed to be fun it's supposed to you know like we like getting up and just going to random places and setting up and just talking about you know just where we're at the environment
Starting point is 03:19:33 like yeah we're here we're here today and tomorrow we're going here and going on tour going to london and seeing you know 900 people inside of a theater to see us and i'm just like what the fuck is going on you know i mean like why are you here and even like things back to reddit that people deem as like an insult to us is what i've loved about this process of two years just being able to try shit yeah like what a cool feeling sometimes it doesn't work sometimes it's funny you said two years. We had to start an entire new thing. It's the second year. I tell people this here at Barstool who sometimes are like – I can't stop looking at this classic game, by the way.
Starting point is 03:20:15 It's the Golden Eye. Did you guys have no ob-job rule in your house? Huh? No ob-job rule in your house? Yeah, that's cheating. That's cheating. Yeah, come on. Little person.
Starting point is 03:20:26 Two years is the time it takes to like grow some shit even know what it is that like yeah like you'll know you'll have the answer maybe or maybe you have to pivot or whatever but two years you got to give it like you know and and and then you could find your way but i think you guys are well well i mean you already know that but like you guys are well i just want to have fun yeah like this is like you know this is like what do, what are we complaining about? Right. At the end of the day, it's like everyone's- We get to sit down and kick it and have fun and crack jokes.
Starting point is 03:20:51 Podcast beef is funny. It's insane. We're all good. Yeah. We're all making money from fucking this. It's crazy. What did you say today? I sit half asleep on a couch and talk to a microphone.
Starting point is 03:21:06 That's what we do for a living. We good bro we can't complain the comments under like you know he violated his existence i'm like dude i'm nothing has changed hold on wait let me look i think i'm okay i'm all right i'm fine i promise you i have lived in the rap world, NBA world, football world. We can identify a specific type of woman in that existence. Okay. What is the hockey groupie like? How do we identify the hockey groupie? The Pucks loves the Puck Bunnies? The Ring Rats?
Starting point is 03:21:37 Is that what they call them? The Puck Bunnies? Oh, I love that. Oh, I need a Puck Bunny. Do you know something? Send them over. I want some Puck Bunnies. Yeah, I know something.
Starting point is 03:21:46 In the rap world, you just go, hey, that's a ho. That's a ho. oh I need a Puck Bunny do you know something like send him over I want some Puck Bunny yeah I know something I was gonna say he knows that in the rap world we just go hey that's a ho that's a ho that's all we got in hip hop you just show up you talk to PK Subban
Starting point is 03:21:52 you're good you guys have a lot of respect for them they get a cute name that's a whore Puck Bunny oh god where's the merch
Starting point is 03:22:00 yeah it's just it's, it's just a – It for sure exists. It's a – it's – I can give two specific examples. I'm trying to make it more – I'm like locked in. I need to know. He's going to describe two people who are going to hit you up after this podcast. Are they the super head of the hockey world?
Starting point is 03:22:24 Jesus Christ. I think especially in like if you're boston is a big hockey town minnesota i'm sure if you're in some of these spots it's it's life yeah honestly it's just a woman in the northeast yeah in my in my experience a woman in new england now obviously i ran in hockey circles, so that's probably where I'd find them. But it's basically every woman I've ever met. You want my mom's number, dude?
Starting point is 03:22:56 Jesus Christ. Oh, man. Puck Bunny. I gotta get a Puck Bunny. Jesus Christ. I gotta come up with cool names for our hoes I thought IG Honey was as far as it went Come on we need some puck bunny
Starting point is 03:23:13 I feel like insta-thought was like a term that got thrown around Where would you meet is it just at the games with the rap world we know Starlit, certain clubs. You go. There's NBA players at that table, that section.
Starting point is 03:23:29 Where do the Rangers party? Oh, I don't know the Rangers themselves, but in Boston, yeah, I can give you the bar names. Yo, hockey guys are some of the most down-to-earth guys you will ever meet. Saving money. No bottle service. No bottle service. No, no, no. They are the most down-to-earth guys you will ever meet. Saving money. No bottle service. No bottle service. No, no, no, no. They are...
Starting point is 03:23:47 They're fucking these chicks. They are cheap. The most famous guy are... It's also the good part of being a hockey player. Connor McDavid comes sit on this couch. Most people aren't going to know who that is. He's the greatest guy to ever fucking touch the ice. So you can just go hang out at regular bars.
Starting point is 03:23:58 You don't have to separate yourself from the... They're also exceedingly gay, hockey players. They just want to hang out with the boys and just fuck around in the locker room and like talk about their dicks and shit that's why girls are like I don't fuck him
Starting point is 03:24:09 like I gotta make sure he wants to fuck me like yeah this is a contest like I'm gonna turn this guy straight I don't know if I'm allowed
Starting point is 03:24:20 to say this in this building no you are say it but Saturday is for the boys. It's one of the gayest terms I've ever heard in my life. The shit that you guys started with Saturday.
Starting point is 03:24:29 My guy brother used to say that. I'm like, it's pretty gay. Bro, you want to talk about being an off-a-timer? Saturday sounds like you should hang out with some women on a Saturday. John invented that shit and it became- Everywhere. I mean, it was- Biggest phrase fucking ever.
Starting point is 03:24:42 It probably made like $100 million for other people. Not for him or for us. But that went wild. I mean, that was wildfire. That shit went crazy. We had ex-presidents saying stuff to the boys and shit like that. It is very much like a fucking – Instagram now has like the Your Memories and shit like that.
Starting point is 03:25:01 And I don't look at those because I don't want to see like – I'm like, oh, that's cringy. Like, did you ever start a catchphrase like that he says that shit and you're like oh god that was a fucking like i was drunk why'd you guys fucking run with that i was just fucking around one night dude i didn't mean it he was the one though he went you know like he's more into fashion and wants things to be like cutting edge and cool and i'm the one who's like this is gonna make money now who fucking cares if it's played out or it's lame or you know your dad knows the phrase now this is when you make the money let's go right so we'll still get like things from merch or they'll be like do you have any size of boys ideas it's like still one of our biggest things in amazon it is it's crazy
Starting point is 03:25:41 fucking stop selling all of it that's my idea dude every fucking package someone buys put a note in it says kill yourself kill yourself but that happens with everything like once tom cruise started doing the young jackets going down dance on oprah or whatever it was was, it was like, well, that's dead. As soon as it's dead is when it's fucking made it, though. You know what I mean? And that was like a Snapchat filter was Saturday. It was the biggest fucking thing ever. It was everything.
Starting point is 03:26:14 I mean, it was everything. We had a meeting about it, and it was like it had long popped off. Not long, but it was like a year into it. And we had a meeting and i was just like this fucking sucks i don't want to do this anymore and uh and erica our ceo was like she's like well like she's like i don't know if she was currently speaking to or had spoken to his advice she'd gotten at some point in her life but she's like i talked to the ceo of mtv and he was like i think the advice he gave was like you don't have a brand until you're sick of it
Starting point is 03:26:43 and i was like once you have a brand and i would no longer like one can i fucking return it i'm out i'm over it that's hilarious that you just sick of that i'm sick of it i'm done i mean everywhere he went to that's all you heard not playing the Slim Shady anymore. It was as gay as it gets, man. When we were talking with Cameron, because, you know, there was one of the videos that we did before taking off was me kicking hot girls off a boat. Oh, man.
Starting point is 03:27:20 Get out of here. Get out of the boat. Literally throwing them off a boat. Get your boob Get out of here. Get out of the boat. Literally throwing them off a boat. Get your boobies out of here. That's where your therapist will be like, you have some intimacy issues that you need to address? Yeah. She plays the video like this. This is bad.
Starting point is 03:27:38 It was a yacht. We were literally throwing them off. It was not hip-hop, bro. That was not hip-hop. That's not hip-hop. We need to put bunnies on the boat. You ever seen the Where the Party At video? Picture the opposite. The exact opposite
Starting point is 03:27:49 of Where the Party At. Odell and the Giants did that, right? Yeah. Odell's where the boys been. Those rumors are out there. The boat confirmed it, bro. Oh, my God. Holy shit.
Starting point is 03:28:04 I have one quick quick quick question yeah because i never get to ask hockey questions yeah and movie questions let's put it together where does jesse smollett rank in hockey players in movies wait who did he play he was in mighty ducks who's he no way the only other black kid besides Kenan Thompson. Was he? No way. The little kid with the curly hair? I don't think I knew. He didn't give much play to him. Gordon didn't see the talent. You want to talk back of country, baby?
Starting point is 03:28:36 He just channeled what he heard from the crowd when he was sitting on the bench. Oh, yeah. How about that? He was that dude. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Gordon didn't really see the vision. He was not remember right yeah he was he wasn't he wasn't one of the stars yeah that's kind of everyone but adam bank sucked on the team yeah yeah actually conway had dude look at this picture the cat was nice yo how how hard is that picture right there it looks like the
Starting point is 03:29:01 fucking album cover right there they're dropping a mixtape that's cool that is fun what was that great movie great movie that is he was no i think he was in one he was that one i think it's my ducks one yeah yeah easily yeah no this is the first one so i'm gonna put him down he's way down the list then yeah i didn't even know he was in it how fucking great of a movie just look at i mean em mean, Emilio Weston, man, it's just hilarious. It's kind of like what we were talking about earlier, where it's like you look at the premise of older movies, and it's like this rich alcoholic got a DUI,
Starting point is 03:29:35 so now he has to coach kids? That's what the judge said? And then he drove on the ice. I don't think he should be in charge of kids. And then you fucking... Then he went and banged one of the kids' moms. You were kind of a dirtbag. For real.
Starting point is 03:29:54 That's a government-issued punishment. Like, the first thing you asked that kid was like, so where's your dad at? He was like, look, you can either go coach a bunch of ragtag kids. You can write a 17-page paper. Tiffany B. Paper. Give me the kids. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 03:30:10 And yet you're such a dirtbag. You did the mom dirty and then stayed for two more movies around her. Get out of these people's lives. You already hurt the mom. You just ruined it, dude. Charlie was the prime example of having a bad therapist in the final movie. You got this free scholarship, you fucking brat. Just because you don't have Gordon as your coach.
Starting point is 03:30:27 Yes. Wait, was Craig Kilborn the coach? We were talking about Craig Kilborn the other day with Louis Black. That was funny. He just shit all over him. I think he was the coach. Craig Kilborn, Mighty... If not, it looks just like him.
Starting point is 03:30:43 No, I don't think it is. It's not on being racist. No, yeah. Mighty Ducks also had one of them. You just made that shit up. What's the coach look like? That's in Mighty Ducks 3? Yeah.
Starting point is 03:30:51 Mighty Ducks. D3, the high varsity coach. Mighty Ducks tried to have their save the last dance moment in the second one when they went to the hood to learn how to play. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because they couldn't get it together. It's like when Bob Cousy found out when a crossover was. What the hell is that?
Starting point is 03:31:06 A knuckle puck? And who was in that writer's room? They're playing against the world and they're like, let's send him to South Central. That's where the real hockey's at. All right, boys. Good shit.
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Starting point is 03:31:32 I mean, I've really been listening since I came on the show, whatever, a couple months ago. Yeah. I've been keeping up with it, and I was telling these guys, it's like a very similar vibe to our show, plus some more music talk, which is something I always wanted to do more of. So it's like kind of our vibe plus rap.
Starting point is 03:31:46 Do hockey players yell us into rap? I didn't. I was like a punk rock whiny little kid. I did not listen to rap, but I don't know. I know what I'm supposed to know. It got along with camera.
Starting point is 03:32:01 That's good. All is good. I actually told Cameron. I was like, by the way, I was like a punk rock guy. So I'm not going to run you on shit. You knew Eminem, Limp Bizkit, and that one song Jay-Z did with Linkin Park. Yeah. Whole album. Great album.
Starting point is 03:32:16 Yeah. That's the kind of rap fan John is. He listened to the other Linkin Park, Jay-Z crossover song. Not the one that everybody knows. Yeah. I was like, Cameron, I was like, I know Hey Ma. There you go. That's good.
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