KFC Radio - We React to the Tim Dillon CNN Interview - Full Episode

Episode Date: May 22, 2025

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Hey, KFC radio listeners, you can find every episode of KFC radio on Apple podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon music, but it is interesting. I will say the one thing for sure is that like, if you think that the podcasts and the right wing manosphere, all that is really influential, then these other outlets and the other side should start doing it. Yeah. It's another edition of Barstool. It's another edition. It's the podcast.

It's the podcast. You've been here for 15 years. You know what it is. Yeah. So Tim Dillon, they finally released, CNN finally released the full interview that he did with, I don't even know who the interviewer was, you know who it was? It was kind of a little note of controversy because he did the interview and they sat on it for like weeks to edit it and then put out like a 10 minute clip of like a one hour, 15 minute interview. And so it was kind of like Tim Dillon was kind of like, why the fuck would I even do that if you're going to edit it down and only

release 10 minutes and take things out of context? And then they finally put the full interview out. I found that interviewer to be quite insufferable. I actually, so I've seen clips, I did not watch the full interview. I think it's a normal interview. I think she's raising good points, I think he's raising good points. So I was gonna say that. I found the way she talked was very like, really quiet and like, yeah, like just fucking, that's what I'm talking about. The interview itself, the clips I saw were like obviously like Tim Dillon destroys

CNN. Which kind of proves what she's talking about. Yeah. I thought it to be two people having an interesting conversation. I didn't watch the full thing, but the stuff I've seen is two people having a conversation. I think she was a little, I think she's a good example. She did make some good points, but I also think there was a lot of points that were like this is extremely surface level

Stereotypical things that like people do say about the comedy world but if you do like an ounce of research or in Take any interest in it at all you realize like it's not true When he rattled off he's like this person this person this person this person all sell out arenas and she was like Oh, they do and I was like, yeah, well that that's like the common man. I guess their Misunderstanding of comedy I think I think funny people are lip tend to be liberal. I think because they want to say Certain words or or have jokes about certain things, people, I don't know why, I think because Trump aligned with them, people assume they're conservative.

In my experience on this show, most people are not. Most of the famous comics are liberal people. So I get where they were arguing about the establishment there, but it's also just they're just picking what they think or what they want establishment to define. I thought it was a very big civil people. Well, that's, so I think unfortunately we got caught up in the definition of establishment,

which is like, now this is not interesting to me because it's like, there is no denying that the Manosphere, Rogan Sphere, right wing, whatever you want to call it, is like a movement that is occurring. So that's an establishment. If that's a trend, whatever the fucking word you want to put on it, it's a very big deal in media. The last it is the mainstream media.

I would consider it now. I think the presidential campaign is like we won because we went on podcast, right? And I think the Democrats I think are using that as a scapegoat and being like, we lost because we didn't go on pirate. But they are for sure the most consumed form of media. Here's where I find. Or I don't know about for sure.

But they are, at least in our world, what's talked about the most. Here's what I think happened with the comics. I think a lot of them, if not like all of them, were really right left leaning. Right. Yes. But then their business gets mixed up with the social trends of canceling and all that shit. I think all of a sudden when you feel like your business is being threatened, your money is being threatened, you then align with the people who are not. You know, I think, I mean Joe Rogan was notoriously left leaning, or at least he had Bernie on and a lot of shit he said, he was anti-Trump, but then those people kind of came after him and vilified him and tried to take him down, and I think it's natural for that person to

then be like, well fuck you, and then it's like, oh and this guy hates you? You know what I mean? So I don't even think it's really ideology as much as it's like business that they ended up falling in with that. Oh, you guys like my jokes and don't police my jokes? I think it was business for a few people became ideology for other people. Yes, but-

Most people, it doesn't matter what state taxes are. Right, right, right. If you're making a couple hundred million a year, it does matter for you. But you're one of, I don't know, 150 people, probably. Like, probably more than that. But it's a very small number. Well, here's where I think there's a little disconnect, too,

with what Tim was saying about. So if you don't know, she asks about the right wing establishment of the right wing comics, or the new establishment. He was kind of like, in Tim's mind, establishment means like CIA and like, you know, lobbyists and like all these, you know, big government groups. So yes, again, and the definition of the word established. If you ask me if you're regularly sitting down with the executive branch,

and maybe not regularly, it's not the right term, but regularly, the executive branch is sitting down with a certain sect of media. I would consider that establishment. Yeah. And, but whatever. And again, regularly isn't the right word there, but they're regularly doing podcasts and not regularly going on one person show, but they're regularly out there doing shows. Now, and to Tim's, Tim's defense of that was like, we asked him Waltz, we asked this,

we asked that. Right, no, no, and then just Democrats thought they didn't do it. And they say no, right. 100%. And Jim and Dave has said as much much I'll go on all those shows Joe Rogan, I think really has had like equal sides on if you know again That was a whole thing about Kamala like kind of botching when where how all those things but I would say like in one breath comics are very like means

Mainstream media is dead and all that shit, right? It's a it's like but you can't say mainstream media is dead and then claim you're not the mainstream media is dead and all that shit, right? It's like- But you can't say mainstream media is dead and then claim you're not the mainstream media. And that's what we do here. That's my point. And that's what we do everywhere. If you say that mainstream media is an establishment, right, and they influence everything,

I would think they all agree to that, right? And then you're saying that mainstream media is dead, unreliable, untrustworthy, blah, blah, blah. Correct. That's another thing. And then you've also said that podcasting and new age media is replacing old school media. Then you're just as influential and powerful as the legacy media was. So then all these arguments that you make, kind of three of them separately,

all come together to say you are, and I think it's true by the way, you are influential, you are probably more, at least perceived to be trustworthy than legacy media. Legacy media is dying, you're on the rise, and so like you do influence it, and that makes you, that proves your point kind of. And I think too that podcasts, I think that we do it here and we everyone does it too They having Tim rejects the idea of being an establishment because if you are with that comes responsibility If you are mainstream media if you are like with that comes responsibility if no one what the fuck you're talking about And I don't think people do that. So I think that's why

you're talking about and I don't think people do that so I think that's why they want to reject the idea of like we're not mainstream we're not established because they don't want to have like the responsibility of responsibility then yeah fucking say the truth and say real shit say that's what you investigated and fucking actually learned rather than just going on and saying stuff that that's my opinion I don't know I just thought the where she did seem like silly is like to be like there's no successful comics on the left was basically what she was like, implying that was dumb. And then he just rattles off like and again, because up until now, it's been exclusively left. You know what I mean? Like in Hollywood and entertainment and all that. So and it'll swing back. That's what culture does. they'll swing to conservative and swing to liberal and I mean but yes right now I that that I did not it's hard to jump into the I thought you knew that way Tim going for loopholes I didn't like I didn't like what do you think was like

when he was loopholing the definition of establishment yeah yeah well we can't kill people and when he I didn't like him doing the Like we're just comics like Joe Rogan has the Navy SEALs protecting him. You're not just a comic anymore Yeah, you're not but I yes, you're right. But also like that's kind of like when you know athletes like I'm not a role model the Charles Barkley line like I Don't know, you know, like if I got really, really famous from doing what I do, and I just, I don't want to be, I guess, like once you start having those people on, you're kind of inherently accepting the responsibility. Like if you're not going,

like I wouldn't want that responsibility, but then so I wouldn't be like, I'm going to do a pivotal interview in the middle at the very end of the election. And I think these, I think the people who tend to be involved in these conversations, the Rogans, Tim, Scholls, Dave, I think they all spent many years complaining about journalism and the media. And now that you are journalism and the media, I think you have the responsibility to do journalism. And that's not full on research, but if you're

going to fucking talk, you should have done some research. And I think, and I hope I'm being clear about this, I think a lot of them do enough, but I don't think they want the full establishment title because with that brings- Comes the, yeah. But I don't know, I'm with establishment title because with that brings comes the yeah, but I I don't know I'm with you. I'm somewhere in between on that where it's like If like Joe Rogan's always kind of been like I have conversations with people that interest me about topics that interest me That's that's what I do. That's different when it's the president if you ask me and then and then and

So what like Joe Rogan has to? And then and then and so what like Joe Rogan has to Had the responsibility to like make sure he has come on or make sure he pushes back You know, but it's like sure he does a good job. I think and I think Joe takes that responsibility seriously I think I think it's more that I don't think yeah I don't think you have to do anything I do but I think if you're gonna be the president you have to I Don't I don't you I think you owe it to you. It's just like being like like saying like you're playing hockey. I don't think you have to for check if you want to really play it. You do. Right. But like.

I think if you I think you're free to just like if you wanted to have the president on if if Eric Andre wanted to have the president on like fuck around with them, like just doing like an Eric Andre type show, you know what I mean? I I don't think I just think you have to accept the response of the the consequences or whatever the okay that's fair to like if people are gonna like if people like you are gonna criticize him I think you would have to be like I don't care I don't care I think that's but you can't be like don't say that about me yeah I don't give a

fuck what you say that's right that's that's where I think and that's probably where a lot of these guys are Especially when you start making like big money where it's just like I'm good. I'm set. I don't care This is how I want to do my show I don't want to do the research or I don't think I'm responsible for like the youth of America Whatever it is But then you have to be open to the fact that people are gonna criticize you or you're gonna become a villain or you're gonna be Whatever. Yeah, if you want to do I mean SNL did it, SNL had Trump host, like I, it's not even a Trump, it's obviously Trump we're talking about, but like I think if you're sitting down

with someone with that kind of power you should have done research. Not even research, but you should be prepared. And I want to stress, I think they often are, but that's, I think that with the title of establishment, more is expected of you. I think it's also like, if you, you have to, I think, be a little bit conscious. I think at one point she asked him, like, do you feel like you got used or played by them?

You know what I mean? Because it's like, to me, if I am gonna crush with my podcast numbers and it's gonna launch me into another stratosphere Well, I'll get other guests because like the president sat down with me and in exchange He you know reached like 50 million fucking Americans to vote right like That's kind of the transaction. You know what I mean, but what is it? Sorry say it again like like He used me for the election. Yeah, it's. But I used him by like, you know.

And if that's your answer, that's your answer. But say it. Right. Say I used him for clicks. That's what I mean. So that's where like it's just, I feel like it's a lot of like, I think she and their side sound a little crazy when they make it sound like it's this only right wing thing.

Because like you said, I think it's been I think what it is is it's the first time almost that it's been right wing. So it's like a news story because everybody it's the first time in our lives. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm saying like traditionally like all those people usually are left wing in the fact I also don't know if it's like you know there are there are very successful like left leaning acts, but I would say that like in, I don't think that most of the acts are left or right leaning.

I think that's something insane we've gotten involved in. Yeah. They're comedians. Everything gets- They're not left or right leaning, they're comedians. Yeah, but I'm saying like, if you had to put people in buckets, you know- But like the people, but like, you know, like to stick with the hockey thing, like, are you like David Poschnak's left leaning or right leaning? Like he's out there

Playing a sport. I think the I think a lot of comedians Internally are liberal. I don't think once they get on stage. They're one or the other I Think they're just going with their telling jokes. Yeah, but you would know you know who is you know I don't know if you put if I put like you know on stage when he's listening Are you on like you, she's left leaning. You know what I mean? But when he's listing Daily Show people, like he had people who had auditioned for Daily Show, left out Nate Bargatze, I wouldn't consider Nate a liberal comedian.

Yeah, no, he's probably... I mean, Nate's very good about just... Yeah, so he left him out because he... It doesn't fit the narrative. But I would say John Stewart, Trevor Noah, Michelle Wolf, and the people he did name if you were to put in a bucket. That argument only makes sense if he said auditioned, because I think he did say auditioned and Nate auditioned.

He didn't get a role. But I don't know. But there are, you know, she said something about like all the left shows getting like canceled or they're not around anymore. And it's like, I mean, that's what you're talking about with the pendulum. It's like, I don't know, maybe that's not hitting with the the, the people, the audience right now, but like in 10 years, it will. It's like she said, like, the

Daily Show is not as popular as it once was. But if you go back to like the early 2000s, people would be like, saying that about the right wing shows, right. Now it's the rights time. Yeah. All you know, I think people Colbert report did exist, but Colbert report was making fun of Republicans, just most of them didn't get it. Yeah, I liked it because they thought

Stephen Colbert was actually the Republican. Right. He meant it. It is interesting how much like that I expected it. I thought she sounded literally sounded like it drove me crazy the way she was talking to her and she the girl who interviewed Meghan Markle Markle recently that have you. Do you see that at all? The Meghan Markle. I don't even know who she was but people are like they were labeling like this is the most insufferable

podcast to ever be recorded because it was like Meghan Markle just doing what she does and then the interviewer on that side was like, just the way she was just like, I just want to begin with asking you like, are you okay? And it was just like, ah, this whole thing makes me want to fucking put a bullet in my head.

To me, it's like, I mean, I'll do shit now where it's like, what did I do recently? I made a joke about, oh, Trump with the McDonald's truck. Let's see. It Saudi Arabia made a mobile McDonald's 18 wheeler for him. And, and I was saying like, what a great presidential perk. And, but I was like, and all it takes is that, you know, you have to rub elbows with like the most heinous people on the planet earth and like, and I lost, you

know, a bunch of followers that day or whatever. And I was like, I was reaching a point where I was like, I don't know, I'm just trying to be successful here. And like that wasn't really worth it. Why do I do this? And I had to imagine if it was like, as that you're losing money or losing popularity on a much higher level, you'd be like, all right, that wasn't worth it. But I almost feel like it's the opposite. Those people get more by leaning into it more. You know what I mean? Yeah, like I feel like being in the middle is almost like the worst thing. Because I would hardly agree with that. I did.

You know, I did. There was the McDonald's thing. And then there was something like right before that, right, I was leaning a little right. I lost followers that day. And it was like, oh, this is where it's just not worth it. But I guess if you pick one and go in, whatever you lose, you gain like 10 fold on the other side. But that's where I think it all really a lot of times comes down to business more than anything

than before it's ideology or anything like that. But it is also interesting that like this interview became its own thing before anybody watched the whole thing because it had not been released. So it was just like that was the storyline immediately. But like, why did that even become a thing? I think because Tim was like, I did this interview and they won't put it out and they're only putting on 10 minutes, which is also fair on his point to be like, what the fuck is this? Yeah, don't ask me to do an interview or or like if you're going to do 10 minutes, let's do 10 minutes. And it's fluff and whatever. But if you're going to do an hour of me.

And Tim's also informed. He's smart in comedy and politics and culture and all that, so he's going to get you a few times. You know what I mean? I think that the world is so afraid of putting something out where you are wrong or get proven wrong or whatever. And I'm like, yeah, I think you need way more of that. Or it's like, yeah, she made some good points. He made some good points. You're right. You're wrong. Like, but I think like, like the, the

discussion around it is all it's, I don't know. That's why you can't use Twitter anymore. It's because it's just all one side or the other side. It doesn't matter. I don't know. I would, the clips I saw that looked like a pretty normal, healthy discussion to me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I would agree with that. I think there were times where like, I think it was a quick check for her a couple of times where she was like, oh, okay. Like if, like she was just like, uh, you know, somebody said that Joe Rogan, like, wouldn't allow them to talk to me. And Tim was like, that's like Joe Rogan would never do that. It was like she wanted someone on the show. And that person said, Joe Rogan won't allow me to. And Tim was like, I don't doubt that that

person said that. But like, there's no world where Joe Rogan tells people that Kenny can't do. And she was kind of like floored by that. I think she went in with her preconceived notions that she almost never considered were not real. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. So when he was like, Joe Rogan would never

stop me from going on CNN. I'm doing this now. She was kind of like, oh, OK. And it was like, that's it. You didn't have any sort of contingency for the idea. But it's not a contingency. I don't think you have a contingency. You just go, OK, I'm wrong.

Yeah. And she kind of did. But I think if you're doing, yeah, maybe this was maybe because of the- It's a conversation, not a fight. Like, all right, this is what I was told. But I think people went into it with a, yeah. Oh, OK.

Yeah, I think people went into it with the idea that it was like combative because of all the rhetoric around it when in reality. But I also think there's something to be said for like, it looked like you, it was not like a question of like, do you think Joe Rogan would ever like stop somebody from going on a show and you say no and you go, okay. It was like, I'm telling you the story about this thing and I believe it to be true. And he's like, no, it's not. And you were just, never mind that. Oh, you know, that's what I was told Yeah, but I think when you kind of go into it, you know If you really if you don't know for sure I think the way she was presenting a lot of that stuff was almost like as fact or everybody agrees with this or Don't you agree that this is the way it is and when he was like no and here's all my examples

Why it was just kind of like a, oh, OK, which is fine, I guess. All right. Yeah, that's a fair point. But then I think that ends up kind of being a pretty shitty interview in that sense. But it's not, right? That's what an interview is. I think if it was like a podcast interview,

it was like, you're my guest and like this all just unfolded. But for like a, a one-off or actually, I don't know. I don't know what that show was. I don't know if that was a, yeah, I've never seen that one. So I guess I can't speak to that, but it felt like a, you know, we're having Tim on to do this, this one time thing. But yeah, if it's like a regular podcast conversation, that's a different story. You kind of go through the motions, figure out what you know, what you don't know, agree, disagree, all that sort of stuff. But I definitely thought there were, figure out what you know and what you don't know, agree, disagree, all that sort of stuff. But I definitely thought there were times where it was like, oh, you don't know. You don't know what is going on in this world, but kind of presenting it like you do.

Yeah. I mean, that's I think we're getting in trouble. But but it is interesting. I will say the one thing for sure is that, like, if you think that the podcast and the right wing manosphere all that shit is really influential Then these other outlets and the other side should start doing it. Yeah, like you can't Like they don't the right wing politics and the right right wing Acts are like doing it and doing it well and it's working for everybody over there Yeah, so either you know do it or or don't do it, but stop fucking complaining about it because, you know, it's clearly going to be a thing and it's not going anywhere. So it would be interesting. That was the other thing is like, you know, trying to come up with the left, the left Joe Rogan,

you know, and it's like there isn't one and there shouldn't like there shouldn't be, but there doesn't need to be. Yeah, they're like they want there to be though. There will be when there is like like it's gonna happen naturally, but it's also like it was Joe Rogan Yeah, he was your guy, and I don't know maybe that's the more the lesson is like don't piss off or go after or vilify the people who were on your side because there was a time where like I Think if the left did not try to cancel Joe and all that shit, he would probably be much more of an ally. All these terms I hate, the canceling and the ally and all that. But like, he, you know, there's, there's those compilations of him saying everything that the left wants to hear. And then it switched basically like

right after they decided to, you know, go after him on CNN. So it's like, if you, I feel like they almost play like victim of it, you know, where it's like, but it's like, you after them on CNN. So it's like, if you, I feel like they almost play like victim of it, you know, where it's like, but it's like, you kind of created this. Yeah. So I feel like the left has to like, make it more, like it's harder to make it cool. Yeah.

That is a, I see that, I so strongly disagree with, I so strongly disagree with it, it's hard. It needs a fresh cool. I see what you're saying. The problem is being like, hey, be nice to people. Sounds uncool. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. It should be cool, but it doesn't sound that cool.

It's like, if you're going to be talking about freedom and America and guns and my land and stand my ground, it's like you're an action movie. You know what I mean? And the other shit is more like, you're a fucking like Oscar fucking Academy Award winner, you know what I mean? But like if you're just like be nice to fucking gay people, it's what are you a pussy? You're not wrong. But like that is the that is the perception. Yeah, that's

To me that's crazy that that turns people off Yeah, it's like it's like I think that you do it in a cool way where it's like yeah be nice fucking good But this is why I think you do need a left Joe Rogan Yeah, I do because I think a lot of times the people Conveying those messages are very unlikable people. It's like I agree with what you're saying, but I don't like you Yeah, it's either or it's very foreign Like it's like the average person can't relate to the way that a lot of these people might look, talk, sound, live, you know what I mean? But I think a lot of it does come

across as preachy, whiny, all those things that it's like, it shouldn't. And these things shouldn't even really be related, but they are. And the person delivering the message, there's a whole bunch of guys who just like, I get Andrew Schultz, I get Joe Rogan, you know, and so they listen and they agree and they you know, like It radicalizes them or whatever, you know, not radicalized but like it bolsters them, you know Where there's not like somebody to rally around on the other side. Yeah, and I think that it shouldn't but I don't think because of exactly

What you're saying, I don't think it'll exist not now not in like the current climate. But that might be the issue is that like the latest, the thing that has really changed everything is like the internet and podcasts and social media and all that. So in this new world, you might, you know, until that pendulum does swing or you do find someone or you do find the outlet or something to reach those people like you might be in trouble Yeah, like it is it is Weird I'll say that like how people don't think like that I can't even tell you how many like how many texts now I get from random people barstool people old friends high school friends College friends, which is like I don't feel like doing something.

And it's like, what are you, a fucking? I'm like, Jesus Christ. You know what I mean? Like, you're just talking in conversation like that? Yeah. Yeah, well, yeah, I mean, that's where, that's where comedy also gets weird with like regular people. It's like a lot of times,

comics are gonna be talking or saying things in a way that is performative and shocking and whatever for that and like they're doing that. If you just work that into your everyday combo, it's a very different- That's insane to talk like that. If you're on S.A.V.E., you're on a podcast, you're telling a joke, and it's a fucking good joke. That makes sense. It honestly is kind of like Yeah, it honestly is kind of like Like the Second Amendment where it's like army soldiers are like dude, they don't need a fucking AR 15 like that's that's not what we were talking about. They're okay with a 9-millimeter

Yeah, you don't need to be bringing AR 15s into text convos because I don't feel like going to a movie, dude That's where I think the responsibility thing kind of comes in where it's like Like Tim said in that as long as people at his club He's like yeah the his club like skews towards the comedy that he likes and as long as people are making a good-faith Effort to be funny like anything kind of goes right? But like then that Influences like everyday life. And it's like, but Joe Rogan's answer to that, I was like, that's not my fuck. I put on a comedy club.

I put on a show for these people, you know what I mean? A fair response. And like, I don't want them to, I don't like, I'm not here to hold their hand. I don't want to, as they walk out the door, be like, hey, by the way, don't repeat anything you heard on stage. You know? So I get where he's, you know, like you said, fair response, but it also is like these are the things that influence everything.

You know, it's crazy, but it influences everything. It's like when we were joking with Dave, we're like, where did all this hate speech come from? This is, it does translate into everyday people's lives. So, but yeah, I, overall, that is the issue, is that it is, it's, it, especially as a guy, I feel like it's easier to just kind of fall in with the right than it is the left. And that is gonna be a problem if you are gonna be reaching millions and millions of people. And it's like, I would feel like, if you were to give me, you know, a Schultz, a Rogan, whoever that, you know, we're talking these stereotypes, and the left uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh like say tranny and it's like what the hell right and sorry I didn't know the word even you should make an effort to fucking learn them too when I brought up this is an extreme case because it's not just slipping up with the word but like she she was talking about the left and

and Tim mentions Louis CK and she goes yeah and it's like yeah I get where you're coming from on that but he I actually don't know about Louis. If Tim's saying it, he probably knows better. But it's like, there's a good example of like, that's a guy who probably did align with you, but you're ready to outcast him. He's like, no one knows. He's just a guy doing a job. He's a guy telling jokes. And because he said bad words, he must be a conservative comedian. And that's how the line of thinking is now. The line of thinking, like, so five years ago, was that... I mean, anyone in the arts. Think of fucking entertainment. All of it.

Everyone's liberal. I was like the joke and the problem that the right hated was that all these liberal elitists jamming their ideology down your throat. And now it's like there's a couple people who don't do that and it all of a sudden has turned into the establishment and this crazy thing and you know what I mean? It's like I don't know. I think you're still probably outnumbered 99 to 1 but I guess it's like those people are the loudest or I don't want to say the loudest but like the most successful, the most the biggest platforms all that sort of shit but it is one of those

things I you know you got to figure it out because it ain't going away so but yeah it was interesting to watch that. I didn't watch the full thing, because it ain't going away. But yeah, it was interesting to watch that. I didn't watch the full thing yet, because it was a long, long interview. But it's definitely worth the watch. X chair provides next level comfort and support that moves with you. I cannot tell you how important a good chair is.

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I literally had the top of my life. It was so fun. That doesn't surprise me. First of all, I could see Jackie, like, say what happens? You get like the order and then you go and then you might get picked, you might not get picked, right? Yeah. I could see when Jackie got picked being like,

oh my God, they picked me? I'm in? Of course I am. It's literally like you get up there and you have a microphone and you have to like give a whole presentation about yourself. Do a little like a 10 minute set. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And I was like, I didn't know that I needed a presentation.

But then... So wait, what did you set? Well, then it was just like, well, the whole thing was like... Jackie from Long Island. Everyone, shut up. Everyone like gets up and then like, they kind of take it Well, then it was just like well the whole thing was like Jackie from Long Island Everyone like gets up and then like they kind of take it as their time to like give like they really like to talk about Themselves. They'll say like cuz all they want to know is like it's your name like where you from what your hobbies are Do you know anybody in law enforcement? Have you ever been involved in whatever and everyone's things that might well my cousin was in law Gotta think man, you know 99% people don't like to talk in front of people, I get that.

But then there's also like, we're always talking in front of mics. You give a random person a mic and it's like their time to shine. If they're not nervous, they're probably gonna give you every detail. I was gonna say, 100% of people are not used to having an audience. And it's just like, wow. Everyone has to listen to me right now. And think about how many people you sit with that just tell horrible, long winded stories that can't get to the point that are always adding extra details. So this is just that.

Like, we just need to know if you're going to be biased against this case. And you're talking about like where you grew up and what your childhood was. I'm surprised they even ask that your hobbies and all that shit. I'm surprised it's not just like, do you have cops in your family? Have you ever been robbed? No, okay, you've been around. People like really went in on the hobbies. What did you say?

Well, I didn't. I was like, I like to hang out with friends. I don't know. It was so, they also kept being like, hey, can you move the mic closer? Shut up. It's like a back up. Shut the fuck up, really?

The only person with production experience. They're like, excuse me, is your microphone on? How do you turn it on? Yeah, yeah, yeah, this happens a lot. Wow, that is very funny. Anyways, but yeah, so then I just kind of get, but then I was so nervous, because I really hate public speaking.

And it's just like crazy. So only person with production background and an audience. I'm sorry. I'm a producer and an on camera and on mic and star and I can't talk or work the microphone Yeah, and I was kind of like like I was I just said like note everything I was like my dad's kind of in law enforcement. I feel like it's not really important I just like kept I just like kept going I was just like no no no no no to your one answer Yes, but everything

The one thing you want to know yes, my family does work in a the law does he know or didn't he like make that up he's like run his own little he's a banker he's a banker like and he just like part-time does it but they literally were like teach you lessons no no he like arrest people he did yeah he's the definition of works in law enforcement but he it's like it's like he doesn't get paid like he's like oh okay I thought I remember some story about you were running around hiding. Because he does search and rescue, but he also arrests people.

And he also finds cuffs and a gun and stuff. Yeah. But he doesn't work for the cops. But he doesn't work for the cops. It's so weird. It's so weird. Is your dad a superhero? Is Mike Banning?

Yeah. Is he a vigilante? No, no. But that's the thing. I was just like, I don't know if it's important but I want to lie under oath whatever anyways it was a whole thing so I'm gonna get to the bottom that would be funny your dad just an episode where Jackie accidentally perjured herself I just didn't know the answer I could just see a always sunny cold open like it does

anyone you know in your family work in law enforcement no the gang goes to jail. Nothing was gonna happen but everyone was giving such long-winded answers and then and then they also asked because it was a credit card theft like like thing and so they were kind of like do you have any involvement in credit card theft and it's funny because like I currently like yeah no I but I currently I like I was telling this the other day like I was at a dinner and there was a magician there and the midget and the magician like was going around the room like and he was like a mind reader like mentalist whatever and he was going around the room doing like his tricks up he would always like do

me do me and he was like do you have any cash I was like I don't have any cash so then he was like do you have a credit card or a debit card so I gave him my debit card and he like looks at it for a second and he gives it back to me and then he like goes around the room and he's like what's your age like how many dogs you have like blah blah blah he's like adding it all up and then adds up to my credit card number so then I was like well it was like the last six digits but so then I was like first of all can you not show the whole table my credit card number and then then he like gives it back to me he was like like, you should really cancel that.

And then I was like, funny. And I like turned and I'm like talking to somebody and I like turned back and like the magician's gone. I was like, hey guys, where'd the magician just go? It's like, I don't know, he just disappeared. Like I guess that's like, you know what I'm saying? Once again, the image of them being like, if you had any credit card issues and you're like,

well, dinner was the other night. Magician stole my number. There was a magician. There was some foreman or whatever being like, Jesus fucking Christ. Actually, I'm glad to finally get this on the record, your honor. Fizzbo the Great over on 27th and Broadway

stole my credit card number. Only you, bitch. Only you. And so now, so then the next day, I couldn't use my debit card. So Only you, bitch. Only you. And so now, so then the next day I couldn't use my debit card. So then I was- Oh, you actually did cancel it? No, I didn't cancel it. It just stopped working.

So then I was like, oh, fuck. The magician actually- Fucked up my credit card. But then I didn't see any charges, so I was like, I guess it's fine. But then I saw three charges for the subway on it. So I was like, all right, I guess I'll let the magician take the subway every now and then. It's not a big enough charge for me to deal with it. Would that be a great racket?

Some dude who's down and out, but he has magic skills. He just goes around stealing credit cards. That's what magicians would do if magicians were real. They would just take money. Well, also, if you're a magician, and when you show your magical powers like everyone's gonna freak out at you, if you want to make money, the best thing to do if you're a magician is to be a magician in high and plain sight.

Cause then like if anybody questions you, you're just like, guys, magic isn't real. That's my point with Dr. Oz. Every time Dr. Oz comes up, people are like, he's a magician. That's how you know he's not a magician. Cause he's a magician.'s how you know he's not a magician because he's a magician oh no no no but like that's how he might be a magician because it's like okay like if I'm a plumber and all of a sudden I like you know I like snap my fingers in your plumbing zone you're like you're a magician yeah yeah you're not a plumber you're a magician sir so anyways so the point was like idiotic

I should feel like it's a really soundproof logic But the point is basically like I I was just nervous so I kind of like was like I don't feel like getting the whole magician thing so I'm just gonna tell them No, like I have been you know. This girl stands up here and she's like People were way too long-winded So during the begins with the magician in the restaurant. That is very funny.

Anyways, but then the point was that basically the whole case was he had stolen some credit cards and then, and at first, when I was like, I'm gonna ride for my guy, I'm gonna die for my guy, I don't care what he did, my guy's free. I am no snitch, whatever. So I'm going into like that. You're on a jury. I know that. Literally a snitch. But I was just like, I don't care what he did, like, my guy's free. I ain't no snitch, whatever. So I'm going into it like that. You're on a jury.

I know that. Literally a snitch. But I was just like, I don't know, like sometimes, like maybe, maybe, cause he had like a family, I was like maybe. Oh, I was gonna say, did you go in blind or you saw him and was like. I saw he had a family.

Was he white or black? Does that matter? Oh, there's more than two races. He was Asian. Was he Asian? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Did that play into your...

What did you think? Yeah, well, like my white savior complex was like... I'm gonna ride for my dad. This guy's not... Young or old? 30. But he did not look like a good 30. So then, I was... Anyways, so I was going into a very open-minded, again, white savior complex.

So then, he like, so I was going into a very open minded again, white savior complex. So then he like immediately they they like preface whatever he he paid off immediately paid off once he sold his credit card. But the nears and then like took a bunch of photos and the years so which is quite possibly the one thing that you can't like, if you bought a watch, you could spin it as like maybe you're trying to give it as a present to your wife or like maybe you want to sell it or something. Veneers is like the one thing that it's like there's photos of you, it's for yourself and only yourself.

It's also though, like, and it's cosmetic. He should have gone with the arm ugly defense. I mean, like, look, that young one right there, she knows I'm not a great looking 30 year old. ugly defense. I mean, like, look, that young one right there, she knows I'm not a great-looking 30-year-old. Honestly, that would be, I would ride for someone that's just like, bro, I'm heinous. I've been heinous my whole life. I got rocks for teeth. He wasn't even, he was fine teeth. It was truly fine teeth. Well, then that's, that's good. But then he ended up for this case, he pulled out three of his teeth so that he could be like, hey guys, that can't be my teeth because I'm missing three teeth. And I was also missing it in 2023.

And then- Kind of a- are they veneers or are they like, you know, crowns or whatever? Because it was pop-on. Uh, I can't say that. Those aren't veneers. Okay, that's just a semantic set. But I was going to say if someone said I got veneers and I was like, no I didn't. I don't know, that's a pretty good defense.

I actually don't know what veneers are. Veneers are like, I have veneers. They're like, you know, they're in. You grind your teeth down to like a little nub and then you build around them. No, but these were like, so that's like a crown, a bridge, whatever. Oh, like almost like dentures in a way then.

Yeah, I guess. Like it was just like a cheaper veneers. But it was like for cosmetic reasons. If you can steal credit cards, get the real fucking thing. Get the real fucking thing. Because it's like, listen listen you can like repo my car My real teeth the real thing takes time. I imagine but it was weird

Like he still has a schedule appointment the next yeah All of it is like you gotta like go measure your teeth all that shit like veneers you take a week you get like you go In they grind you down They let you put they put fake ones on for like a week like a whole it's like one piece It was so funny seeing him on the stand, like the photos were behind him. It was like, clearly him. He was like, that's not me.

That's not me. Was he representing like himself? Was he was doing a lot of talking? Well, he wasn't, they weren't gonna have him talk because then you could see his teeth and then you could hear him. You're on her, I didn't know anything. So then, some of them, the lawyer at first was like,

hey, sir, you guys cool if he never talks? And we were like, it's definitely like, yeah, hey, sir, you guys cool if he never talks? And we were like, I, it's definitely like, yeah, I guess that's fine. Like maybe you shy. And then like the teeth thing came out and we're like, oh, were they like big like chiclets or like big pearly whites? They were just like, no, no, no. Cause again, they were like pop, like just like pop on veneer.

So like it was like invisible line, whatever. So he just like took them out. So he didn't have them, but you could just see his normal teeth and they're fine teeth. Does it really matter what you spent? Like, I don't know, just like you stole the credit card, bro. Stop talking about your teeth. Yeah. Well, it was like this, like you had to like prove that the so then he got like he made a bunch of fake emails and emails were like gambler guy 101. Like it was like you are so and then it was like in his name with his photo and it's like worst criminal ever. Yeah. It was like, you are so, and then it was like in his name with his photo, and it's like.

Worst criminal ever. Yeah, it was just like really bad. But so you wanted to ride for him, and then there was just too much evidence? It was just too much. Like, I was trying. I was really trying. My favorite story was when Jackie came back last week

and is telling this story about how in the courthouse, the lights on the ceiling very much resemble breasts. They're titty lights. Like the big old titty lights. And Jackie's like, the guy kept leaning back and just laughing at him. And what I found funny is that you guys, you and the defendant never had a conversation about those lights looking like titties. You just assumed he's looking at the titties. like titties you just assumed he's looking at

Something else I guess he would look up and he would like look at the TV lights I like that you guys had an unspoken connection you're like me and him He's had an unspoken connection. You're like me and him. Titty like ice. We know about the lights. And like it was only a glimpse of joy. The rest was just like fuck my fucking life. I'm so fucked. I'm going to jail. I actually really fucked with this guy.

Like this is a rock. It sounds like you got a crush. Yeah, maybe I do have a crush. Speaking of titties uh we got a new a new adventure for Jackie hashtag tits and pits oh I spoke to the mirror dry people they're gonna hook her up yeah so my one concern is if I get it done get like Nick's sweat in one area. Is it the sweat cells?

No, no. They call that compensatory sweating. I don't really think that's a thing. Oh. Because I remember being worried about that too. Like a lot of people have it in their hands. Yeah. And I was like, I don't want to like get it down my armpits and then all of a sudden have

like sweaty hands. Jack, he's just pouring sweat. You know that gif I was from? Airplane I think it's from. Yeah, just dripping. He just was raining down her face. It's weird because I have two dry holes right here. Guys look how dry my shirt is right now.

She's got a bowl under her face. My shirt is the driest shirt you'll ever see. But when I said that you know she got her tits done and now she's going gonna get her pits done. What was the third thing you said you were gonna do? Lips done. Yeah, so she might be tits, pits, and lips. Tits, pits, and lips, baby. Let's go. Yeah. All-natural! She's natural beauty, folks. I never claimed to be all-natural.

But yeah, that... You technically are, though, right? Like, they just took stuff away. That is a good point. That's a great point They never added stuff. Yeah, you're not you're not you're not Unnatural but you are Like altered. Yeah, yeah plastic surgery who I don't know. All I did was get my bone broken and

It's taken out. That's really true. Did you ever like when they did it? Botox is kind of hard to... It goes away though. It's like you poison your body every time you drink. That's not plastic. You're like matter, right? Mass doesn't disappear or mass stays.

It just changes shape. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well it took the mass away from her tits, definitively. Yes. If you put it into your ass or something, that would have been like, hey, there's one from one spot to another. What did they do with it?

I was going to say, when they did that, did you like, you don't see anything, right? I'd be interested to see if there was just a pile of internal tit on a stainless steel tray or something. Have you ever seen liposuction? Like, I guess that's what you get. It's basically liposuction in your tits, right? I guess so.

I don't really know. It's like gross. It's like yellow. It's all fat. Like if you were to close your eyes and think of fat, yeah, but it's like fat is gross. Like if it was just like clear, like, you know, it's just like, oh, that's just fat.

But it's like yellow, gross fat. It's like, yeah like that's just fat but it's like yellow gross fat yeah that's why fat is attractive here but not attractive you know yeah yeah no I mean there's something that I think really thing there has to be something like primal or biological because it's like if you if you just have like a lump on like your leg goes a tit you think you're a freak yeah just look at those things they're on the ceiling. They're awesome. But Tits, Lips, and Pits are Beamer, Benz, and Bentley. Jackie's going to be fucking riding high, man.

I haven't even had my, you know, like, once I get a little bit of money, not. Then you're really be cooking. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What are you going to get if you get real money? I don't know. I mean, you've kind of done the big ones. Yeah.

If you ask most girls like, all right, here's a blank check, they'd be like, I want nice tits in my face, you know what I mean? Like you got- There's so many niche ones, like, I don't know. I don't know. Like you'd be surprised at all the, there's so many.

You get like eyelid ones. You can get like the arm ones. That's like the ballerina arms is like the biggest one apparently. Was that just like liposuction in your arms? I don't really know what it is. Saw some guy recovering from height heightening surgery. Uh huh. That shit is barbaric man, you gotta really be insecure about your height.

He had like a metal bar. Almost looked like the handle of a lightsaber I don't know why I came to my mind it was like this big like metal like weird thing and then it had like uh three or four like pins that go in yeah Zahs got the scars. Zah did it? He didn't do it he they like I think they went to do it and it didn't work but Zahs got scars for it. But they so they did it didn't work but there's something prevented them from doing it so they didn so they did it. It didn't work, but there was something prevented them from doing it. So they didn't actually do it, but underwent it.

I mean, like I, I can't imagine, I almost feel like for Zah, I can't decide who that surgery would be good for because like it's so bar, like these people have to like learn how to walk again. Yeah. You know? And it's like, okay, is it,, okay, you went from like five, six, to like five, nine, but you had to like, yeah, you're out of work, you know what I mean? Like it's crazy.

And then if you are someone like, if you're a dwarf, like, I don't know, is it really gonna fix? Like to Zah, Zah's almost just like, I feel like he owns it, he's just like, whatever, he's just on the man, you know? But so then if you go from like four and a half feet tall to like five four ten or something like that, you know what I mean, but there it's I think

my guess is It affects your life like it does. Yeah, it's not really like yes height It's like I'm tall now. Yeah, it doesn't hurt like now. I can drive a fucking car. Yeah, right? What's up with you guys? What's up with me? Nothing really My whole house has been reduced to like one room. It's a fucking nightmare But because you're redoing everything yeah

And they just like it was all supposed to be done in phases and then because it like all fell apart It's all being done like at once you don't realize how much your life revolves around your kitchen oh yeah you don't have a kitchen it's just like you're fucked even just like like a sink I now have a bathroom sink can't do dishes in a sink do you cook in the bathroom sink I cook well you do dishes in the bathroom sink what are you saying you can't I mean I I'm at this point I'm just doing like plastic everything yeah but when there's like a you know if you want to cook something you still have to use like a pot you know and then it's like I just have this little tiny sink in my bathroom

instead of like a kitchen sink. How long is that for? Too long I can't you know I can't just I don't know how this works man. I gotta talk to hey if anybody out There's like a contractor Like get at me because I I don't know enough to be like, this is taking too long. Maybe it's taking the exact right amount of time. Or maybe they're doing a great job, you know? But it's like, I want people to be there every single day

from like nine to five working on my fucking house. I think that makes sense. Maybe it doesn't. Maybe contractors would be like, that's just not how it works, man. I got like guys who are here and there and we come for a couple hours here and there and that's it. But I'm like, I want it and there and we come for a couple hours here and there and that's it but I'm like I

Want it done? So just fucking get here like I keep the roof guys came and did the roof and they worked every single day for like 10 straight days until it was done. These guys are like Some guy does electrical and then here and there I'm like Yeah, that's a nightmare. I can't get this done until they get that done Oh, that's my whole life man. My whole life is just like I can't do this until that I can't get this done until they get that done. That's my whole life, man. My whole life is just like, I can't do this until that. I can't do that until this. And then it just keeps taking forever. And then when I have my kids over, it's like, then it's a real nightmare.

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7th Avenue is all barried up in anticipation for the game, which is so crazy because it's game one But it's gonna happen every single time. I really fun. I love you cool Yeah, yeah, I mean are you are you on the Knicks bandwagon Jack? Hell yeah Wait, so what happens what you were doing tonight the Pacers the Indiana is crazy because so the Knicks Pacers has been a thing for like my whole childhood it was like Knicks Pacers. Yeah. I think the last like four times the Knicks have been to the Eastern Conference Finals it's the Pacers. The Pacers they played against Granger and Paul George. Yeah. So they got a lot of history with these guys. Reggie Miller, you know Reggie Miller is? Reggie Miller was like this Knicks assassin back in the day and he had this one moment where he scored eight points in nine seconds

Eight points in nine seconds. Okay, so four baskets and it was like two threes and a bucket I think okay, but it was like, you know when you're up by eight with under a minute to go Like this games over and also nine seconds like boom, boom, boom. We're losing. It was fucking, it was like one of the nightmare, nightmare stories of Nick's fandom. Is that like the quickest anyone's ever? I can't imagine anybody did. I know Tracy McGrady once had like 13 points

in like a minute. That was crazy, but eight and nine is borderline impossible. But so the Knicks are, have you been watching all the antics yeah yeah you guys are like really hyped on it I don't actually even fully have it in me to like bandwagon like that's a great way to like just describe sports like yeah you guys are really yeah Jackie's a Yankees fan by the way what's that Jackie's a Yankees fan no I'm not but I just think like the Yankees are like I just enjoy going to Yankees games much more than Mets games.

Sorry. Ma'am. No one's ever said that before. No first of all like you're just objectively wrong. Yeah. Second of all that's not allowed. I'm not laughing. I'm not laughing. Was this not my exact reaction? The other day day when it was the Knicks were playing game six and the Mets and Subway series had started and so it was like a big deal and I was like, I told the kids, I was like, go get some Knicks gear or I guess I just said like go put on gear for the games tonight. And Shay came down and because her mother insists on trying to wedge the Yankees into their lives, even though she doesn't really care,

she comes down and she had a Mets jersey that was Lindor, and then someone got her a Yankee Soto jersey. And she goes like, I don't know which one to wear. And I started laughing, feeling like, gosh, she's fucking with me. And she was like, cause this one's the Mets, but this one says Soto. And I was like, oh oh, she's fuck it with me and she was like cuz this one's the Mets But this one says Soto and I was like oh you're being serious and I

Was I treated her like a full grown adult in that moment. I wasn't like oh babe. I was like Go put that down. You're never allowed to wear that And don't ever even consider bringing anything Yankees into my house ever again. Like dead-ass serious. Like I am not fucking around. She was kind of like okay but at first I was like haha you're funny like no we would never do that I can't even believe that anybody would even get you Yankee stuff at all in your life hahaha and and she was being serious. Poor little confused girl.

Just like. Why did she care that it said Soto on it? Because Soto's on the Mets now. So she was like, oh, so it's a Soto jersey, but it's a Yankees jersey. And I was like, actually, bring that. We'll burn it. We'll set it on fire.

You motherfuckers. So you're much like my daughter. This is not allowed. Yeah, I'm not saying that. No, this is a non-negotiable. There can be no Yankee fans like my daughter. This is not allowed. Yeah, I'm not saying no. This is a non-negotiable There can be no Yankee fans on my podcast on our podcast I just got a really good tub of chicken tenders at Yankees game one time and like a soda and well You also you're there for the food guess who was ranked number one in all of the entire country best ballpark food

Okay, well I had that was like I kind of got you there I wasn't saying I've like tried all the food at both and like I I'm just saying one time I had a really good buzz. I had a tub of chicken tenders and fries and I thought this is fucking living man. And I was just sitting there and I go, the Yankees rock. And like, that's where I drew that, whatever. Sorry, sorry, sorry.

Not because of, it was more just like, I fucking love America, dude. Like, all of a sudden. And so then I was kind of telling Pav, I was like, hey, I like the Yankees, I like going to Yankees games. And maybe I did say more than Mets games. Like maybe I did say it's better than Mets.

Specifically, more than Mets games. Yeah, yeah, I guess I did say that because then I could kind of see it got a rise out of him and then I kind of wanted to lean into it. And I am enjoying, honestly, the rise that it's getting out of you right now too, if I'm being completely honest. But the point is that I do, at the end of the day,

I'm a Mets fan, but man, you should have seen that. Public Chicken Dinner was so good. I'm gonna send your dumb bitch ass to Barstool the ballpark where you can have all the beer you want get your buzz on and you can eat all the food get the tub of chicken tenders and get the fancy shit and then you will never speak of this again okay you will never say this again deal I'm getting you your armpits Give you this job, and this is how you repay me with this Yankees propaganda bullshit I'm trying to think of something that you even care enough about for me to just

Take the opposite side of it just to bother you and I can't even think of something when I figure it out I will I truly I like your old nose better. I truly like, uh, it wasn't about, it was more just me like being like America rocks and the Yankees just happened to be in my line of sight at the time. So Yankee Yankee Sam, I will say this is a notoriously bad place to watch a game. It's the worst. These are all just facts. If it feels like watching a game in a Walmart,

like everything's just fucking. Everything's just like gunmetal gray and like this big, all the lights are so fluorescent. It's terrible. Yeah, so the Yankees are like more considered like, like versus the Giants.

There's no like charm. The Giants and the A's. I guess no like charm. The Giants and the A's. I guess you guys wouldn't know like that. Yeah. But like the team, nevermind. So like, I mean I guess I would imagine the Giants or the Yankees. The Giants or the Yankees.

Yeah, like the Clans or the Yankees. No, I think the Giants are probably the Mets. Oh yeah? The Yankees or the A's. Oakland, the A's. So then why the fuck would you root for the A's? Yeah, why would the Yankees root for the A's? You are, you're rooting for the Yankees.

No, I'm rooting for the Giants. Just to be clear by. Oh yeah, but. By any standard the Yankees would be the diametric opposite of the A's. Yeah. They're literally like the... I'm losing this train of thought a little bit. I don't really... The A's famously spend no money. The Yankees spend a ton of money. Any team that gives me a tub of chicken. It's just the chicken. Just the fucking chicken.

Oh, I went to the zoo. Oh! What animals did you see? I saw them all. Name it. I'll tell you if I saw it. It's just the chicken. Just the fucking chicken. Oh, I went to the zoo. What animals did you see? I saw them all. Name it. I'll tell you if I saw it. Did you get really sad? No. Dude, I got so depressed at zoos. Because they're like, trapped? I got sad for the birds.

I'm surprised by how depressed I get. I haven't been a lot, but I went once in God, Roger Williams Park Zoo, which is a very small zoo. I went for went once in god Roger Williams Park Zoo, which is very small zoo I went for like a November date and me and the girl were both like Well that but then use our are probably I went Bronx Zoo thing is one of the biggest in the world The Bronx is totally different Yeah

But the then I went in Ireland with my nephew who was probably one or two at the time and he loved it So that's what I thought was missing from the first thing. Having like a little joy and wonder. Yeah and and he was like look at that and I was like do you know how bad he wants to be? I go back and forth though that like the birds I definitively feel bad for because they there's a couple that were in like an aviary I think they call it that was like a really big dome and you could get your you could get your wings on. Yeah yeah. But the other ones were trapped in like a little room And I was probably like you can't imagine having wings It's like literally the phrase is like spread your wings and fly like they fucking can't yeah

So that made me a little upset But everybody else I was like I think these guys are living suit did we saw one like swimming and like big area Dude, dude, we saw pools. They had pools to swim in and like big area. But it's, again, this is the zoo I saw was, it's not so small, the one on Ireland, but like small and the lions looked so sad, like just moving slow and I was like, but they always kind of look. But like, it's one of those things too where like someone who was there, like a zoologist knows so much more about it than I do and if they're like, they're actually really good.

I'm like, all right. What I noticed, and I don't know if this is a thing, but like the tiger, it was like a tiger. I was like, is he alone in there? But I think they're kind of like solitary animals anyway, so they're not like thinking like where's my, I thought lions had like a pride. But I, maybe not. The bears were, the bears were great.

You know bears just dig like little holes kind of? They dig, not a hole, but they just dig like a little, like I don't know what you call it, and they just sit in it. And this one bear was on his back, and he was like this. And he was like, oh. I was like, I think that bear's like hung over or something. I really desperately, one of my favorite videos

in the history of the internet is the bear with the piece of bread. You know what I'm talking about? No. Oh, it's the best the best there on like a safari like a drive-through safari and This bear is kind of sitting anything puts his paw up this guy takes a slice of Wonder bread and frisbees it yeah He just catches it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's like my favorite video on the internet, and I was like I was He's waving that is this real cuz Because like, he waves for this bread like a fucking. And then he just thinks so. I don't even know if, this is the one, yeah.

He catches it, no problem. Is this the same guy? Yoink. To me, that's like the best video on the internet. And they look just like these bears and they were just chilling. And I like the internet. They and they they look just like these bears and they were just chilling and I like the bears. The rhinoceroses, the rhinos were in like a not enclosed thing. Really? It had like a wall like up to here. Was it electrified? I don't I don't know can they jump I?

Would imagine that I think they could have jumped over this but apparently I learned I thought rhinos were like they their skin is Literatoriously thin yeah, so maybe they don't like fuck around too much like but I thought if there's something that should be enclosed like with the thick Glass it should be a fucking dinosaur Like I mean if the thing wanted to stampede, we're all fucked. Wait, am I crazy for not knowing that rhinoskin is thin? No, no, no, no. I think 99% of the world would assume that.

You're saying you thought they were tough, right? Yeah. Yeah. I thought it was like, you know, you couldn't shoot it with a gun. Yeah, yeah. And they said it's actually, they're very, they put, like, they worry about the sun, they get sunburns and shit like that. But I saw rhinos. I saw elephants. I saw tigers Peacocks were just walking with us like on the street

Yeah, they got out of like the area they were in and they were just like I was literally next to a fucking peacock like right next Yeah, I feel like I've brought this up a lot recently so sorry if I've already like asked you guys this but raccoons They have their little hands. Uh-huh, and they have their thumbs Do they are they like little thieves because they have thumbs or did they develop little thumbs because they have Thief like tendencies and they need their little thumbs to do that. I believe their thief like tendencies are pre-thumb.

And this all this information I have is from YP. YP once told me that if we had chosen to domesticate raccoons rather than dogs, we wouldn't know the difference. I don't know how much YP knows. I wish we did. Raccoons are cute as fuck. Like they would, it would be awesome if they were just chilling in your house. You know, I saw a Red panda. Yeah, it's kind of like a raccoon, but it's like red. Yeah

Continue and it was Went on the monorail. So we went through Asia on the monorail and It was just one like one of them That was the only thing I would say is there was a lot of that seemed to be like, we got one here. And I was like, that seems like you want to be with your buddies. But he was just sleeping on this little platform that was really close to the monorail.

And it was just like, they were like, you'll see him coming up. He's napping right now. And everyone went bonkers for this guy who was just chilling on a platform, snoozing. That thing's cute as fuck. Like, if I could have one of those, hell yeah. I saw ostriches and giraffes. How long do you think a giraffe's tongue is?

Give me inches. 12. 18. Motherfucker's on fire with this. Bless you. 18 inches. 18? What?

He nailed the exact number. Yeah, I saw that. He's on fire. I was about to say you're gonna get this right, because you're on a with you. Bless you. 18 inches. 18? What? He nailed the exact number. Yeah, I saw that. He's on fire. I was about to say you're gonna get this right because you're on a hot streak. It was only at one. Wait, that's really weird. A dozen. Yeah, you're in a dozen mode. But yeah, so we saw like every animal you could have... What? Does it curl up a little bit? Like, they fit all in their mouth? It's probably also like from here oh yeah you start to get fucking measuring like that I'm for that but I do your time goes like my asshole kind of is though I mean you ever feel like underneath it it goes back there dude how big day we talking draft measuring

irregular external or internal draft inches what else this I saw elephants just throwing dirt up onto their back with their with their trunk yeah just out of the Sun always all these animals worried about the sun. You would think that animals could stand the sun. Yeah. Well, I've always said that. It's kind of like how pigs don't have sweat glands, but they're always rolling in dirt. And it's kind of like, I don't know. If raccoons can develop thumbs. Did they? You said that very confidently. Do they used to not have thumbs? That was what he said. Oh, I don't know. I know. All YP, a wildlife expert, taught me was

They have a disposition that if we had chosen to domesticate them, it would be totally normal. They do not have thumbs, so we're just wrong in general. What? I think they just have like five fingers. Five fingers, that can all, but they don't have like a thumb. Oh my god, I didn't know that. You know, I went into the butterfly garden and I was like holding on to my fingers and stuff. I was king of the butterfly.

Really? Yeah. That happened once. Did you see armadillos? I feel like that's kind of an under-eater one. No, I didn't see armadillos? I feel like that's kind of an under-eater one. No, I didn't see armadillos. Snakes? We went by the reptile-like place, but we didn't end up going in. Have you guys ever heard about mantis shrimp? Mantis shrimp?

Yeah. Lots of things about mantis shrimp. I don't know if I'm going to remember. Can I get a picture, please? Get it, yeah. They're one of the most interesting creatures. First of all, they're studied by like the government like the CIA because they were trying to replicate the Like the shell the armor that like their shell is like crazy strong, but it's wrong Their punch is like oh you thought yeah, I've talked about this. Yeah, it creates like a vortex in the Their punch like you really like so fast. They can't like keep vortex in the vacuum because it's so fast. They can't keep them in tanks because they will just

break the glass and also destroy anything else in the tank with them. Wait, it can break through glass with its punch? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're crazy strong. Something about their armor to their claws. But they're strong for their size or they can break through? No, no, no. They would knock a like like they would they would knock motherfuck out well they knock

they would like knock a human now no no you're telling me I can't take a punch from a shrimp I could kill that shrimp what do you what do you you're arguing a shrimp would punch us if you got in a tank with it yeah if you feel like I think I could withstand a punch from this shrimp. Yes, if he would punch me, that's one thing. You're saying he would hurt you. I mean, if he could break glass. OK, I think it would be more kind of like a bullet thing, where since he's small, but it would puncture you for sure.

You would be like, I. Can a mantis shrimp injure a human? Can a mantis shrimp punch, injure, I think this is idiotic, but. You for sure would be like, oh, I shouldn't have done that. Yeah, so mantis shrimp can definitely hurt humans. The powerful claws and capable of shattering shells,

even glass can inflict serious injuries if they strike a human. These injuries include lacerations, cuts, and potentially bone fractures. Cuts and- Bone fractures. Cuts and shit I can understand, but bone fractures? Look up like,

mantis strip. If a mantis strip punched your finger, yes it would hurt but wouldn't necessarily break skin if you're not breaking skin. Yeah, fuck you Jack. I would make the fuck this strip up. That's such a huge leap from potentially bone fractures to like, traditionally it won't break your skin.

No, but again, this is the thing with the internet, is like, you can't, it says everything. Yeah, true. It says everything and anything. Well yeah, we just found one that said it could break your bones. So there's only one way. We have to get a mantis shrimp.

Yeah. I mean, I would be down to let a fucking, I'll go in the ring with a fucking mantis shrimp. Yeah, you're really like, you don't like these mantis shrimp already. I just don't like you saying that a mantis shrimp could beat me up. I think you would be like they're studied by the government. Wait wait a minute what are these injuries? Palm left with a scar by a mantis shrimp but

again claws are very different a crab can fucking break your skin like but they also have like look at that other little finger it's a little cut like we got a mantis shrimp in here and be like alright No fucking pinching You got a punch you got a punch I Think that we should we should get a mantis shrimp put it in a tank with another Like mantis shrimp and see if they fight Yeah, but you know what just came to my head when you said that is Edward Savarin and I don't know... Eduardo Savarin? Eduardo Savarin. From Facebook? Yeah. Remember when he got in all this trouble for feeding eggs to a chicken? I don't

what? Yeah, yeah. Oh yeah, from Facebook. Yes. He fed eggs to a chicken? He fed eggs. And got in trouble? Part of like the, they're not frats, but the houses at Harvard He was rushing a house and part of it was like he had to keep a chicken safe And he had it in the dining hall and was just feeding it He didn't think he was a dumb college kid and he like was just feeding what he was eating and he was eating eggs Okay, so then the Harvard newspaper did an article on him that it was forced cannibalism. And then Zuckerberg used that to kick him out of Facebook.

Yeah. But, but. So if you were like, if Jackie becomes the person who's like, she's making shrimp eat each other, bro. No, but I'm not making them eat each other because I'm just saying I'm putting, they're friends friends I'm putting two friends in a tank together and if they kill each other that's on that I know a little I know a little bit of a lot now I if Eduardo savarin murdered Mark Zuckerberg I I would if I was in

the jury I would ride for him that's what that's what the social networks about he's suing him for that I knew that but I didn't know I I don't remember the chicken thing and he If I lost out on like literally billions cuz I I think he ended up getting it. He did His name was restored to the masthead after this lawsuit. Okay, and he's crazy rich. He has become an expat He's renounced his American citizenship and he lives in Singapore now, so he doesn't pay taxes He's a guy who I like he is Andrew Garfield's in my life. Yeah I've seen the real one before but I cannot picture him at all one thing that like I always think about from that scene is when he's just like I don't even think he

Says he just implies it and he's like well I put it in their heads down like you can't take that Something about like, I don't know the exact quote, but. His point was like, too late. It's too late because it's already planted in their heads. They already have a view about you. Yeah. Well, that's like Jerry's. I always think when it when they're like, strike down the record. Yes, I know.

No, it's in. It's not stricken. Yeah. Yeah. But so the zoo is the zoo is, you know, I's not stricken. Yeah. Yeah, but so the zoo was, the zoo was, you know, I'm not really a zoo guy, you know? But the Bronx Zoo- Was the zoo your first time going to the zoo? No, no, no, no, but I'm just saying, like if, you know, it's not my first choice, but like, I also, I think we take for granted,

the Bronx Zoo is just bonkers, that it's like, it was crazy, I'm on the monorail, and like, I look this way, and we're in Asia, and there's fucking elephants. And then quite literally, if you look to the other side it's like the Bronx River Parkway and like apartment buildings and like you know junkyards and shit it's like how how is this possible that there's just like this you know haven in the middle of the hood that is probably worth like jillions of dollars yeah you know can't even imagine how much.

Oh, you know what else there was? The fake. This is such a racket. It was a dinosaur safari walk with animatronic dinosaurs. I was like, this is just this is like the next. This is where we're headed as a society. You're on like a virtual reality tour. It's like, this is not real.

It's not fucking real. They got to be close to remaking a dinosaur, right? Well, then it's funny. Like I looked at the rhinos. I was like, that's a fucking dinosaur. That's a fucking dinosaur. Yeah, it's got horns and it's like, it's a hundred percent. That's where it's funny though, because everyone's like, well, we've learned that dinosaurs are more like birds, but I was like, well, we've learned that dinosaurs are more like birds. But I was like, OK. But like, that's a rhino. You know what I mean? Steven Spielberg's earth.

This is what fucking dinosaurs look like. I actually think that I've kind of asked this question before, like, what do you think we are wrong about in science? Because there's always things that science was like, this is true. And then you find out, no, the earth is not the center of the universe. and you look like a fucking idiot. I We just can't be right about dinosaurs. What do you mean?

It's just like it was so long ago And I know that we have fossils and we can piece these things together a little bit But it's just like how the fuck can you really say anything with certainty that happened a hundred million years ago? You know I don't think you can say it was certainty, but you could say they existed. No. Yeah. I'm not saying they didn't exist.

I think you can say what they did or what they look like. But like, and I think they found that like, you know, they had more like wing like structures, whatever. But like, so maybe this has now been corrected. There ain't no way that a T-Rex had little baby arms. Yeah, they just that doesn't make any sense to me. But they have the bones. But they I think they were like parts that what they learned was like that's like a wing sticking out. Oh okay. Turns it into like these little arms that when you look at it. What does the wing do?

I think they were more bird-like. No but I think they were this is what I mean though like like look at those things, that wouldn't exist. They do literally nothing. Well, it's also like if you take a dog skeleton and you were to put skin over it, it looks like a dinosaur too. But like based on like, they're not counting for like all the fat and all the,

I don't know, it's like, look up like dog skeleton dinosaur I don't know this might not be a good point I've never heard this one before yeah so it's like you know dogs are basically dinosaurs but yeah I mean you know like anything can look like a dinosaur I think once you find out that they're like oh they actually had feathers oh they actually had wings like I don't know it sounds like we were pretty fucking wrong. Our first guess seems to be really far off if we thought they were reptiles with arms, and it turns out they're birds with feathers and wings. I don't think that's that different. Like, we found the bones. First of all, I don't think any of us know what we're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're just looking at Google images going, that couldn't happen.

That's what I mean. I don't think anybody knows what they're talking about. I think people who study it know what they're talking about. Yeah, that's probably people who devote their whole life to it. I just don't, I think there's just a limit on what you can figure out from 100 million years ago and some bonus. And I think those people, if you speak to them, would go, we're not really sure. Yeah. But what we think it is. Right, right, right.

I just think that I'm sure there were paleontologists like 30 years ago who were like, these things are reptiles. And now there's ones that are like, no, they were birds. And it's like, well, then what's the next? I think we're just going to keep figuring out more shit about it. I don't think any of that means wrong, though. I think it just takes, we weren't wrong about things. We just don't know that means wrong though. I think like it just takes like we weren't wrong about things. We just don't know it yet. Yeah, that's more

my question is always like what what are we gonna like figure out was like, oh we were Samsonite. We were way off, you know, cuz there's just even like the so what they they they they found like the was the Yucatan Peninsula has like a thing that looks like a meteor hit right rings a bell and it's like I just feel like they you know you kind of like piece together a story that's how do you figure out anything that happened a hundred million years ago I don't know like don't you think that there's

probably there's some like if it was me and I'm in like the paleontology world, right, early on or whenever it first started, like once technology started, like, I think if you just say anything with enough confidence, you know? But I think, I, I, I don't know, I think people who are studying these things are trying to find the answers. I think it was tough. A lot of the- And are like, here's the best we got. Yes.

Yeah. I'm not saying they're lying, but I'm just saying that, like, I think as, you know what, the girl on the tour of these fake dinosaurs said, because there was a portion they called new dinosaurs. And they're like, these are all dinosaurs found in the last year. And she said there's a new species of dinosaur being, like, uncovered every two weeks.

That's crazy. Crazy. Like, how many are there? So I'm like, they get a new one every two weeks. Yeah, right. New dinosaur just dropped. It just seems like, you know, it's like what if the one we find out the next two weeks like undoes everything we learned about other shit. I'm maybe I'm a dinosaur truther. Nar truth there are walls are nothing

anymore yeah they're not a thing like they're extinct are they extinct are they that's the one with the Narwhal oh they're not real no they're real the ones with the horn right yeah there I mean they're ridiculous looking I ran out of all my like girly podcasts. I was listening to Mad and Jane's and they were saying that there's this dolphin and there's this like woman who like worked with dolphins and she would like jerk the dolphins off and

then they like were like hey you can't do that anymore so then she like had to leave the dolphins and then he killed himself the dolphins can't take away my hand dolphins are like kinky weirdos yeah they rape they do all sorts of I think that's a famous document or no it's an octopus right then the guy fucking octopus yeah something like that it was a famous the document really good guy Owen Owen likes it he's always like there's there's something there um what for like for you guys he had talked about doing a sketch about it years ago yeah but it's it's it was some guy who filmed some document I don't know yeah I

mean there's all sorts of tales of both dinosaurs and or uh That's the other thing you're gonna run into octopus And run into the asian stuff real quick. Could have given you a warning on that one Yeah new uh new uh new info drops about dolphins fucking like every every single day KFC radio is sponsored by BetterHelp mental health awareness is growing but there's still progress to be made 26% of Americans who participated in a recent study say that they've avoided seeking mental health support due to fear or judgment. So there's still a big time stigma about people getting therapy, getting in, helping their mental health. So when people hesitate to help, it doesn't just affect them, it affects everybody. The families, the co-workers, entire communities if you're too afraid to do it.

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West Coast war right now. And Joey badass badass like defeated the entire West Coast like by himself. It's so it's fucking bad Who are West Coast rappers who would you be if you're not gonna know any of these guys Ray Vaughn's big one daylight? Joey bad as he chike. Yeah, I don't have his music. So Joey badass He became more of a actor if I am I facts right? He's um, Molly Obama. Malia. What used to date him? No, but she took a picture in like his sweatshirt during the pandemic and it was, it was an issue.

But so, so this all started, this is actually really, I find it fascinating. Big Sean, uh, Joey Badass and um, fuck who's the other one on the on the cipher. Oh, it wasn't during the pandemic, it was 2015. Everything was during the pandemic in my head. There was this, there was like a freestyle, I think it was like T-Mobile, like presents like a freestyle or something like that. And these guys had a very friendly like back and forth kind of, he was just like, the one line was like, Joey,

you put me in a predicament and I had to defend my syndicate where it was like, you're talking about the West Coast, I'm a West Coast guy, I gotta defend myself. And it was, everyone was kind of like, oh, this is like a good, this is just like friendly hip hop battle, you know? And then over the next like seven days, I think 10 songs came out.

It was fucking crazy. And I'm sure it's all these guys. It's very interesting. Like I'm sure they all saw what happened with Drake and Kendrick. Like if I can get in on a piece of that, like let's do it, you know? Yeah.

But so all these guys, Daylight's like a famous battle rapper. Ray Vaughn, I was not familiar with, but he put out a song. He's got AZ Chike Cheek came out with the song. And then Joey Badass was basically like taking them all on by himself and just put out a fucking heater. And everyone was like, Joey packed up the whole West Coast in like one zone, which has got to be the coolest fucking feeling in the world. That's gonna be sick. So fucking sick. And now, so now he's calling out Kendrick.

He was like, someone call the general because I'm killing all his troops and like I'm the real boogie man. Like where's Kendrick? Come out to play. All this shit that's like, because he's probably like, if I can get Kendrick to respond, then we're really going. So it's kind of like, you know, it's, it's, I don't want to say it's not, it's not phony because it's, it is, you know, it's real. But I think a lot of these guys are doing this with dollar signs and popularity in their mind or whatever. But Kendrick's on, you know, this world tour right now. Everyone's kind of calling this the G league. Like this like the second tier. So like, why would he play in the G league when he's like an all star? But, um, but it's, you know, for, for an old man like me, who it is funny to me when,

when people are in like a battle or something serious and they need like, uh, a song, they always go to like old school sound rap. You know? It's like, if that's what you do, you pick the beat and you rap in a way that is like older quote unquote old rap when you need to approve, win the battle, whatever, then why don't you just fucking do it all the time? Because it's not party music. Not everything's a goddamn party. Unless the party music sucks. There's been plenty of party songs that sounded, you know?

Yeah. There's a reason why all those DJs and shit who are playing for parties still play that early 2000s, mid 2000s type music. When you guys are out, is it new shit or old shit? But it's not like rap. It's not rap. Rap's just so out. What is it? Pop. It's like every single pop girl and then it's like some like remixes of like early 2000s music. Yeah. Yeah like like you know I'm trying like when we were going out it would be like Diddy music

or Jay-Z's pop hits like that sounds like the wet Nelly sounds like a ton of fun oh you like it was like early 2000s R&B must be awesome dude it was awesome I just think about like I mean we used to dance I just can't imagine I'm sure you guys do too now but it's just like we used to be like let's go to the bar and there would be like enough of a party like set from the DJ that like the crowd would be going wild for like your favorite song oh shit I would experience that in like 80s pop music like at that time if that makes sense like I'd love to go out like when ABBA was pop but I would say it's more fun to

go out now than it was like five years ago because I think like the pop The pop girls. Yeah have made it like You can sing along to the songs like who well, I guess okay Well, like it's like all the Sabrina Carpenter songs. Yeah all that like everyone knows them Whereas but also I would say 2000s like had really good or like five years ago 2016 I probably had like the peak. I saw a list the other day earlier today that said the top these are the top 30 rap albums from 1998 There's one year and the first ten were all like classics one fucking year had like ten All-time rap album that's like 2016 for us. What was that? It was like Uzi Drake Weekend

Kendrick every single big dog like took had like their best album that year. You ever heard the pop song 2003? Is that the one where they use all the words of like other songs? Yeah. Yeah, is that DJ earwormers like someone else made their own song? No, no, no, it's an artist. It's uh, uh Yeah, it is. Oh yeah, the girl. Yeah, it's great. It's, it's very clever. How does that work? It's a clear like, maybe one more time and I forget what it is, but I would actually, I'm, I'm definitely in search of new music. I would like everybody to comment one, just one. I don't want to like

go through like whole library. Just one song that you feel really strongly about that. I'm going to like uh, Jack Lilly, no Rosemary. No Rosemary Lily Rosemary and the Jack of Hearts. Okay, is that your one? Yes I've been on a big Bob Dylan game. I watched Complete Unknown and I just put it on all the time now I think I like Bob Dylan. I think of it because it's He's more talking than singing and I can listen to it and it's not as fast as rap I can't keep up with rap there's not too much noise I meant was rock music the rap was too fast noises rock folk music just a man the guitar I feel like the country is the big X factor that kind of

changes things like rap faded out. Pop always just pops. Country kind of replaced rap in that sense. Zach Brian sold his catalog for 350. He what? Sold his catalog for 350 million. Already? Yeah.

No. Yeah. I thought Bieber just sold his for 200. Yeah. Well, how's that possible? I don't know. And also part of me would say Yeah, well, how's that possible? I don't know and also Part of me would say like why did you do that?

But also if you if it's just your old Stuff and you can keep going like fuck it. How could Zach Brian's? Catalog possibly be double Bieber's I know I know 350 is no joke, but to do that at this stage is... is a lot. There has to be something I'm missing. Zach Brian can't possibly have double the worth. The only thing I would possibly think, and I'll get my tinfoil hat on this one, is did you see that report that Bieber's in like financial trouble? Yeah, but you don't take a 200 billion dollar, 200 million million deal on that. Maybe, well I'm saying maybe if you're in trouble

and you need money and like the label or whoever's negotiating for it knows it. But like even that negotiation, you can't have a $200 million window. What do you mean, $200 million window, what? Well just Brian got 350, he got 200. Like if you're like, all right, we need it. But like 100, that's such a big discount.

I'm with you, man. None of it makes sense, but it's real. Unless like maybe Bieber didn't sell all of it. There's got to be something fine print. Like it's Zach's all music. I don't know. Obviously, I've never heard of it. That was my question was, if you just own Zach Brian

in perpetuity, then like maybe. But if it's just like you get his first, well, I mean, it's been like five years, would you say? Yeah, but Bieber's 20. No, that's what I'm saying. So like if this was only like Brian like five years would you say yeah, but beavers 20 No, that's what I'm saying so like if you if this was only like Brian's five years of music 350 and then you can do another five and another five I'm like holy shit, and that makes me think like if Zach Brian did that I Taylor Swift would be able to sell it for like

Multi billions I would I would guess she never would though now., yeah, especially that's all. You know, you don't need to. It's a strange move, like, I mean 350 is... I guess if I continue, if I own the rights to continue to make my own music and someone offered me 350, I would say... Wait, Bieber sold it in 2023? In January 2023, Variety and others... I feel like that news just came up. It's certainly been in discussion lately. But it might just be that the news that he's in financial trouble. And they said that.

If you're in financial trouble, you need like rent for the month. Yeah, you know, like, I'll fucking sell. I'll take 150 million. Dude, I mean, they the report was that he blew through anywhere between five and a billion 500 million and a billion. Yeah, which is like But I you know, I was trying to think of it like if he he's been making money But he's also had probably like bills and shit seems like 12, you know what I mean? Yeah, so you take on a record in a long time. That's that's I think the main thing is like he canceled his world tour

Yeah, somebody actually DM me. I don't know if this is, you know, it's gossip or whatever, but it was like he took out a loan to like cover the advance that he like lost for the world tour or whatever. But like, you know, all of this is obviously crazy, crazy hearsay in conjecture, but it's like, you know, there's a lot of talk about him struggling and then if you don't make any money and you are spending money on Lord knows what I don't know. It's it seems Incomprehensible, but you know you start playing in that lead my what I find in comments in comprehensive isn't is

Isn't that Bieber ran out of money? It's that I don't understand how Zach Brian's catalog could ever be worth 150 million more it might just be the Country like wave right now, but pop is always pop. Honestly, just like if he did it in 2023, just inflation. Also, I would say that double the fucking thing. If you're a Bieber, here's the thing about, here's the thing about Biebs that I don't know. I think I'm just throwing this out there. Maybe I'm, maybe I'm wrong. We can see if we can. I think a lot of Biebs hits are not his

Like Despacito was like a big song. It's not his yeah, and I think that like that Skrillex song is not his I'm sure you get money for it. Sorry Sorry No, that's Right and so if you think about his hits, it's like, I don't think it's as many as you think. Even that one, maybe that's with Kid Leroy, so he co-owns it. I don't know how a lot of that works,

but I don't know if his catalog is what you would expect it to be, given how popular he is. But still, I don't really care what Bieber's net worth is. I just mean, how could Zach Brian be worth 150 million more? Even like name, I don't know. Name recognition. Name recognition wise like Justin Bieber's. I guess yeah. There also might be a world where we are just underestimating like you know the middle America like football, you know, there's just so many of them that it's not even just Bieber. Like Springsteen sold his recently. Bowie sold his recently. I don't think they were 350.

Can you Google like most valuable music catalog sales? Um, you see, uh, Sir Mix-a-lot owned all the publishing to baby got back. He said he made a hundred million dollars off that song. He's like, I think someone made a comment about him like his money and he was like, I'm good, bro. I've been living and eating off of that. So let's see Queen sold Wait, what is it? Is that what they so report? Oh wow. So Queen sold for more than, wait, Queen sold their catalog for $1.2 billion?

What? That doesn't surprise me. It does surprise me that Michael Jackson was only half that. Oh, yes, that does surprise me, yeah. But you know what, that might be something like, we will rock you and we are the champions alone. Oh, yeah.

You play that at every stadium, you play that in every commercial. So that's also what I mean about Bieber is some of these songs might not quite be like, it's like, yeah, that was a hit. But we don't really have use for that. Whereas if I own We Are The Champions, every single single But you're not buying, who's buying that? Gillette Stadium isn't buying it.

I think it's usually like an equity, like an investment firm, you know? But I also just don't understand when you own something like, like does it get reported every time you play that? I've always heard like you play that in an arena, I got like a few bucks, it's like, how does anybody know and how does that? Or you play like Madison Square Garden pays a flat rate.

That's what it is. And then you can play that song whenever you want. Bars Garden pays a flat rate. That's what it is. And then you can play that song whenever you want. Bars pay the same flat rate. But then, but to get that, they're like factoring in, you're gonna play the song forever, so we're gonna charge a decent amount. Yeah, I think as I understand it, bars pay, it's like a Spotify type thing.

What do you mean with bars? Bars pay the same, it's obviously not the same rate as MSG, but. But to play like, if a bar has like a DJ there there's we're talking about like if it's like touch tunes it's like in your system or something yeah as you were talking to Scotty about it there's like some payment you make to a company that then they record what you played so like your system so they know what such a I mean there's a whole world of that that you don't even.

Jackie's got a solution. Copyright free bars. I do have my bar idea. I'm always going with a bar idea. But it's a bar idea. It's a bar. And it is all right. Jackie just stroked out there.

And it plays like royalty free music. And then you can, all the celebrities and reality stars go and party there so that you can film freely. And TikTokers go, Barstool would love it. You can go film freely there. You can have an argument in the bar and not have to take it out. Why would people go to this bar though?

They wouldn't, but then it would make celebrities want to go there even more because commoners. Why would people go to this bar though? They wouldn't, but then it would make celebrities want to go there even more because commoners wouldn't want to go to this bar. And then that would make commoners want to go, that's full of celebrities. Okay, so then it's just a booming bar that everyone wants to go to. No, no, I'm saying that's a bomb, I'm saying that's a bomb.

Wait, wait, wait, you're saying celebrities want to go to a place where they can get filmed and post? Like influencers, I get that. Okay, influencers and reality stars. So you get like, you get influencers and reality stars so you get like you get some tick-tock stars like I'm gonna go there so that I can but all those people post the music anyway I was gonna say there's only running people yeah yeah but okay so reality stars is really where it's at like and

it's like just us there is part of me I really still like this is not your idea this is more this is more like I I Have my tinfoil hat on when it comes to YouTube and barstool. I just think They don't like us or something why because there's just like We're big on YouTube, but not like as big as we should be you know what I mean I think they're pushing the buttons and pulling the levers like block us Like it's it's like there are just people who have like monster channels that just have never had even close to the amount of influence that some of the people at Barstool have. Why would they not like Barstool?

Probably because Dave told them to go fuck themselves. Well, it was more Google. Remember like there's a story about like Google wanted a meeting with Barstool and Dave was like, I don't need this. And I remember hearing, I don't even know how I heard this, through the grapevine, whatever, game of telephone. It was something like there was a note left at Google that

was like, do not contact Barstool until they come to us. Sort of thing. Almost like, we're not going to work with Barstool until day Dayport and we apologize. But like I just I don't know it just seems crazy to me that like there are certainly successful people at Barstool on YouTube but it seems like there's a very big disconnect in my mind between like every other platform that we've like gone into. It's pretty immediate you know what I mean? If it's like, go follow us here, everybody does it. Yeah. Like subscribers on YouTube, it just does not translate. I mean, maybe it's just the fan base or whatever,

but it just seems unlikely to me that nothing hits the same way it does on all the other platforms. I don't know. But also, when was the Google thing? I would imagine that they've had turnover a hundred times now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that the main thing is it's everywhere else you can curse and you can say kind of whatever you want to an extent.

YouTube is like absolutely not most of the time. And I think every single podcast at Barstool is vulgar. Yeah, I guess so. But like there are popular podcasts on YouTube and you're telling me none of them are cursing? Yeah. I don't know. I don't think what you're saying is completely like

I think that there's definitely a possibility. Yeah, like I just believe YouTube's keeping us down. I think Also, like all barstool All barstool channels are connected like there's all like they all are linked to barstool, man Yeah, so it's like you can just fit you can't even fake it if it's attached to Barstool main. Yeah. So it's like, you can't even fake it. If it's attached to Barstool, then they know it's part of Barstool. So I'm not totally against it. Also, we could just be blaming this. Yeah, it's fun, though.

But it is funny that our Instagram is one of the biggest in the world. TikTok is the biggest. It is the biggest in the world. And then Twitter is probably the best. I know we don't use it the right way. I was going to say, but we make stuff for Instagram and TikTok. Yeah.

We don't make anything for YouTube. Podcasts. Podcasts aren't for YouTube. I guess they kind of are now. That's what I mean. Everybody else's are. It's like, you find these random podcasts that is like two million subscribers.

Like, what? Like, I wouldn't be shocked if we found out years later that Google was like, we were fucking you guys all the time. It's on the table. Put it out. It's on the table. was like we were fucking you guys all the time. It's on the table. Put it out.

It's on the table. Another song idea that I had, if I were to like, so Caroline was saying, I think she makes like, she was like, it's not that much, but I'd probably make like 1,000 a year from her songs. But I were to put out a song. And every day before I leave, I put it on all the computers and I play it overnight.

Just replay, replay, replay. I feel like that would give me some good lunch money. I think you're right on that. Right? Yeah. And I was just like, hey guys, during this podcast, can we just replay my song over and over and over again? I think you should do that. But I think like-

I should do that too. I think you should definitely do that. Yeah. You know what? I think you would make like hundreds of thousands of dollars if you did this. Don't, don't, extend that But I said I can't know. She would be super rich because notoriously, we know that Spotify

definitely pays people a lot of money. No, but I think I think it's actually I think it's actually more than we think. Again, I'm not trying to get to get rich off this. I'm just saying like lunch money here and there. Like I think I could do it. But you got to make a song. I know I'd probably go more the Bob Dylan route because I don't want to say anything.

Talk it. Just before like talking, maybe I'll put a little ditty behind it, or a little beep behind it. Not ditty. No ditty. Yeah, a little like beep behind it. But I kind of feel like, I could just, it would just be some extra change

in my pocket. And at worst, like I, I make a song. I want you to make a song. I'll make you a promise, like I make a song. I want you to make a song. I'll make you a promise. I will play that song at least one time a day for a year. Really? Yes.

What kind of song? I mean, we know you have the voice of like an angel. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know. That's why it's like. You need to get in the booth. How would I even get in a booth? I don't even need a booth. I believe we literally have a booth 30 feet away.

Right down. Yeah. And you, and we have like songwriters here. get in a booth I don't even believe we literally have a booth 30 right down yes and you and we have like songwriters here but I think I think you go tell Caroline right now you want to make a song she'll make a song with you for sure yeah you're right you're right Nick Hamilton would definitely like help me out too well do you guys want to like give me any have I also showed you like can I just read some what about a song about wait Jackie? We've made this song during this episode Hey, we thought it's in no. Oh, I do like that though. Yeah tits pits and lips is a great song we talked about One particular genre of music that's been really hot for a few years now

Country music we also talked about my dad's feeling where Jackie had when you were at Yankee Stadium You were like, this is fucking America right here. Oh, America maybe? You make a song called Bucket of Chicken Fingers. Bucket of Chicken Fingers, is that what it was? Chicken Fingers? Yeah.

It should be called Chicken Fingers, Frenchie Bucket of. Just write a country song about that moment. That's a fun exercise to do no matter what. Just write a country song. You don't have to sing it yet. Write a country song about that moment, how you felt about that moment. I don't wanna make a political statement in this climate to sing it yet write a country song about that moment I don't know I don't like call it bucket

statement in this call bucket list and it's all the things that you love in life and you want to do but it's like the bucket of chicken fingers is like the inspiration the inspo or maybe you just go full-blown political go right wing yeah I like that like like this Yankees bullshit, but like I was at Citi Field, I got a bucket of chicken finger, and I was really happy. Chicken fried, you just need like a little remix of chicken fried. Yeah, yeah.

Okay. Like, you know, they said like jeans to fit right, all the other things they said that were awesome. Like you need to make it your own list of that. Yeah, I also think like in order for me to like make money off of this, it has to be extremely low budget. So like I seriously like don't expect anything more than like just Pab sitting there

and me sitting on this. Let's get a couple high hats, couple 808s, you're all good. Yeah okay. We can definitely get you, we have people who at least play instruments or make beats or we know people who make beats we can definitely get you the music we have enough people like I could get like like the Mike Studs of the world or something like we have enough music contact. Yeah. Like usually when Dave needed a rap song, he helped him like, well, we have enough people. So are we sure I shouldn't do rap because I'm going to read you guys some recent rappler. So now we're definitely a rap. Okay. Big shoes to feel. No big shoes to feel no big shoes to fill and I'm wearing them as slippers Okay, okay put that in the

Mic drop because you guys clearly didn't fill and I was like you got a rap genius me here. What does that mean? What does that mean? Okay? Well, I have to think about it we like I like Well, I have to think about it. Wait, hold on. Like, I like. Yeah, so so I guess like context, the context would be like I'm I'm following somebody up, you know, like let's say in the rap game. So it's easy for you to fill those shoes.

Yes. So like it's like I go to I go to Kendrick Lamar, you know, like or Drake or somebody the number one right now. And I and like everyone's like, hey, you got some big shoes to fill if you want to be number one and I would say Big shoes to fill I'm wearing them as slippers like these are just like what I wear These are my house you know You're saying it in a way where I understand what you're saying, but the words themselves don't really well But this is also thing about the rap world like if you if you rhyme slippers with something that's just like catchy and

good people will be running around going big shoes to fill but I wear I'm like slippers it doesn't really fucking matter it's like when I go to take out my trash like I put those bad boys on you know it's so again it provides like more like I'd have to give more color to the bar if I shoes to fill, but I wear them like slippers. What would you think? I love that. Love, right? See, done. He doesn't think he's sexy.

I just wanna rock 55,000 times in a row. He gets a rap game. Wait, what was the other one? Caroline said she is down to make music better. Oh really? Yes. They say, okay, so this is more like, they say all men are pigs and you're a wild boar.

Like you're- B-O-R-E? Yeah, B-O-R-E. I like that. Great one. What? Yeah, that's a good one. The second part of that ball has to be about like

how they're boring or something. Yeah, like I could snore. Sure, sure. Like, oh. You put me to sleep. Yeah, yeah, like I can, yeah, okay. This one was just like, this was like a very like context heavy,

but basically I went to the, I went to a hospital after a party bus. Went to the hospital after a party bus, call that ride or die. I would have to, you know, again, like, there's a lot of context I'd have to put in all these songs. That's a good one too. I like that.

You're small dick talking while I'm tick talking. I don't really know what I'm talking about. I pass on that. Yeah. You're small dick talking while I'm tick talking. I don't really know what I wrote there. I'll pass on that one. Yeah. Pass on that one. You're small dick talking. Tick talking at my copyright free bar. I'm not going to talk.

Tick talking. All right, wait. Hey, now I got a whole new line of questioning. What state are you in when you're writing these bars and insulting other people's dick games? I don't know. Sounded like a little bit of anti-men, a little bit of I'm next up and also you have a small dick Yeah, I'm I don't think it's coming out of any like I think it's more just kind of like

I'm rhyming in my head and I'm just learning from the rap game like I feel like you know like it's just oh You need you need an op You know and if any if I have any ops I don't have them any ops in my life And so like if any it's like if you like wrong me what but if you do it's a man It's a man like didn't text me back Your girl works a blue collar shift. Oh something something about So I wanted to do something about like blue collar like using your hands. I don't know like like something about like I don't know what my thought

process was there something about like hand jobs and stuff. I'm sorry I don't really know. Like something about like blue collar your girl works like I don't remember the context of all the jokes about you know I'm talking about your girl's blue-collar shift she gives out hand jobs because she works with her hands and job I saw them yeah vision yeah it's like you know your construction worker you got a hand job yeah anyway that's pretty much it needs to be something like I work on my brains like you your job is with your hands and then you kind of like yeah And then obviously we have the two that very song is gonna be awesome

Covered in hickeys call that redneck was that covered in hickeys call that redneck. Mm-hmm. Gotta make the paper to roll a paper Gotta make a paper. That's an OG one. That's an OG one. That's from like 2020 What's your like MC name? Because by the way, we're definitely going the rap angle now I think it has to be just JNX415. JNX415? Is 415 your area code? Yeah. It's like JNX from the 415. My friends and I like we gave each other like rap names. But it wasn't that cool. Mine was like Nick Swizzle.

No, I like that one. No, it wasn't that cool. But yeah. Right now you could put out a song called like Nicks in 6 and it would hit. Whoa. Yeah that would be good. If you made like a Nick song right now, that would hit. Okay. I'm a little more confused on the direction of the song now.

Like, but I could do like a shaboozy type thing where I'm like rap it and. I actually have a theory about music right now. It sounds like people make so little money on actual songs and then you go on to tour. It's all for tour. Right? I would sample. What? What if I went on tour for my song? I would sample everything. I would try to just sample and get it cleared and just be like I would make a song that's just like here the chorus is like or like it's all about the Benjamins you know what I mean? And just be like I'm not gonna make a dime off like here the chorus is like or like it's all about the Benjamins You know what I mean, and just be like I'm not gonna make a dime off this but it's gonna be a viral hit

Yeah, and then I'm gonna go on tour with like all my other pay to like play that we're just like I now I have A podcast or whatever it is like I would just go Somebody recently. Oh, I think it was Diddy. He had a song on his latest album I don't think anybody even really knows unless you're like deep in the R&B world, but it just had the drums from Phil Collins in the air tonight and it was like Phil Collins owns that song 100% Yeah, there's you can't touch that drums without giving him like everything and this made it's not a good example Cuz that song didn't become popular, but it's like if somehow there's a world where I could get the drums from You know from Phil Collins or like the guitar riff from like Sweet Child of Mine

or one of these things that's like so recognizable and it's like, alright, I'm never gonna make a dime off this but if I go to number one on Spotify, that's gonna open up a lot more doors, you know? Yeah. And I think it's, you know, only certain people get cleared for these things but if there's a world where, you know, you could get cleared for anything that's memorable in this world. Like that's more valuable than anything. Yeah.

I mean, like if you're good enough, you can own your masters, all that's great. But if you're just like trying to make your way, like, can I just make a song that everybody wants because it didn't work for Diddy? Yeah, yeah, that was probably a bit. But it was more just that like I was trying to figure out. I was talking to I think I was talking to Rory who like knows about music. And he was like something like that is, he owns that whole song.

There's other things where it's like, I get a cut of it, and this, that, but if you go with something really memorable, it's like, that is their song. But there's so many things now that are like. Can you make money off SoundCloud anymore? I didn't even know you could. In the beginning you could?

Yeah, right? I don't know. I'm surprised you're not a SoundCloud rapper Jack Maybe I can yeah, I'll put my music on all platforms Whatever needs to happen, but yeah So I'm going to go ahead and put this in the fridge. Thanks for watching!