KFC Radio - We React to White Lotus S3 Finale + Grill Guy Interview

Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey KFC radio listeners, you can find every episode of KFC radio on Apple podcast Spotify or YouTube Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon music Sam Rockwell. Yeah When he did that barrel roll Rockwell everybody! I am- It's another edition of KFC Radio on the Barstool Sports Network. Did everybody watch White Lotus? Yes. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Yes. I told Kevin and Paz when I walked in, I'm in a great position, because I have strong opinions. But I don't have a fucking clue what the

Starting point is 00:00:45 world's sense is I I am I am pretty set in my beliefs so the floor is yours no I kind of want to know what other people think first you gotta go first because then we'll tell you also I don't even know you know everyone has different internets now like I know what my internet's saying but you guys might be different too so I don't even really know you know everyone has different internets now, like I know what my internet's saying, but you guys might be different too. So I don't even really know what the consensus is. I know what the consensus is. This is interesting, this is like a little poker game. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:01:10 So I think I want him to go first, and then we say whether we think the internet's in agreement with him, and then we see if we, our internets are in agreement. Okay. Because I can see how people would not share my opinion. I can see how, what do you think he means? Is this good or bad?

Starting point is 00:01:24 I don't know. I think he likes it. I think it was downright Shakespearean. Okay. Okay. I think it was unbelievable. I thought it was a masterclass. I think Mike White might be one of the best of all time. Okay, dude. I was...

Starting point is 00:01:38 But everything worked for me and everything I was going, I could see it not working. Like for me, it worked fucking unbelievably. Right now, but what do you think the internet thinks? I think the internet thinks it was a flop. Okay, yeah. The internet thinks it was a flop. See, I could see, everything that worked, I could go,

Starting point is 00:01:53 but I can see people being motherfuckers about this. But I thought it was unbelievable. I think, so I agree with everything you said. And I wouldn't go as far as you did, but I liked it, I thought it was good. I don't even know what Shakespearean means I like as I was watching it and particularly like oh my god What happened like Locke had died and then fucking Walton Goggins is carrying and he's like

Starting point is 00:02:18 I was like bro again. I don't know what the word means, but my brain went this is You know what that means? You love a shootout That was actually the. I don't know what that means. You know what I mean? And you love a shootout. You love. That was actually the part I didn't like and in my head I was going, fights is love. Oh man. The main thing, and it's driving me insane,

Starting point is 00:02:38 are people saying, if you don't like it, fine, whatever. People saying nothing happened. Oh, okay. It's crazy. What do you, I could rattle off five things that if just one happened, it would be like a big deal on a show. We had deaths, we had poison, we had blood money,

Starting point is 00:02:54 we had like, you know, good endings, tragic endings. You had, like, so. That's a, Shane, that was comedy, that was tragic. It was like, it was fucking unbelievable. I was laughing the entire time, I got choked up a couple times. Yeah. Oh, dude, Gary Kuhn, I cried. I was laughing the entire time I got choked up a couple times. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:03:06 Oh dude, Gary Kuhn, I cried. I was like that was fucking beautiful. By itself if that happened in a show that like speech would have been like great like that's that should she should win an award for that. She should win you know best actress in the Golden Gold or some shit like that and that was like a oh yeah and that happened because of all the other shit going on you know what I mean? Oh, this rocks that we're all in agreement. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no.

Starting point is 00:03:29 I had no, I do like, if anyone who's like, it sucked, I'm not like you're crazy. Cause I could see everything just not working. Well, there's two sides to it. For me it did. There's two sides to everything in my mind. Like I thought it was very satisfying in that like they gave you, they did it all.

Starting point is 00:03:46 Yeah. Like, Walton Goggins, Rick came to the island, and the whole thing was like, is he going to succumb to revenge or not? And he fucking did. Like, he had finally learned that just- He was set free. All that anger he carried, he didn't need it, and he had like a fucking day of just living a perfect life.

Starting point is 00:04:04 He was smiling. He was smiling. I actually, I want to go back, I don't think he smiled until the finale. Right, right. Need it and he had like oh fucking day of just living a perfect Want to go back. I don't think he smiled until the finale right? Yeah, I really noticed it I was like oh my god Rick yeah, when he first comes back to the beach and he's running Oh my god. They're gonna be happy to yes, they fucking did it. Yeah One comment your mother's a drunk And the blender how many weeks in a row to be talking about the blender and they fucking did it they gave it to you but the flip side of that is a lot of people like what was predictable like well I don't that was one I never like it didn't it didn't jump once up once you got pointed out obviously I saw it but like I don't know that wasn't one where I was like that's gonna happen it was just like oh, there's something there, but I thought his story was so perfect We're like he was finally making himself a man. I kind of do what he just died. Oh, yeah Yes, if that's my only gripe and it's but I think it's a big one if he died if they fucking killed a Teenage kid who I know you disagree with the viewpoint

Starting point is 00:05:03 I thought like he had his moment where he was like I'm trying to make everyone happy in a family full of narcissists. I don't know what the fuck to do man No, I completely agree. I thought he had that moment this show where like yeah Yeah, yeah, no, I didn't think he was evil anymore. I was like, oh, he's just trying to be a good And then they should have fucking killed and they should kill and because that cuz white lotus is the show that makes you go Oh shit, they did it. And it would have been like, they had a father accidentally murder a teenage kid. It would have shut up the haters.

Starting point is 00:05:30 It would have been talked about forever. I think they should have done it. But they also, they killed Chelsea. So like, if you want that unbelievable innocent tragic death, they fucking murdered the best good hearted person on the show. So that one ended in tragedy. this one ends in relative like hey We're family. We're gonna stick together, and I actually like that too

Starting point is 00:05:50 I thought that was so like you couldn't give him that speech if you killed Lachlan And I thought like and it wasn't like a heavy-duty speech. It was just like hey things will be good Yeah, he looks at the phone. You know it's fucked. I thought that was great. I thought I thought I want to point at the end I was like is this the best season television I've ever seen? Yeah, bro, I'm with you. I think it's the best. I think it's the best season of my Lotus and everyone. Everyone thinks it's the total opposite.

Starting point is 00:06:12 Everyone's like, it's not like season one and two. I'm like, you're right. It's not. It's better. I watched season one and two. And again, I keep referencing this because when I watch stuff to do content, I do watch it a little bit differently. And I have a different bar, I guess. In a weird way, I almost lower it because I'm looking for the good rather than the bad. But, I watched season one and two going, I don't think I get all the hype about White Lotus.

Starting point is 00:06:32 It's kind of... And this one I thought was gripping. I thought this was unbelievable. Yeah, and even Piper, realizing she was spoiled, and being like, fuck it. That was awesome. Belinda fuck it. I you know that was awesome Belinda take it when she says like it would be disrespectful Nailed that I was I I don't forget if I said to you guys my said it's my mom I was like I think she's gonna go to that point. She's gonna realize it. She needs everything Yeah, and as she was like crying conditioning and realized that she needs everything. And as she was like crying.

Starting point is 00:07:03 No air conditioning. And I was like, oh my God, it's exactly what's happening. That's legitimate, by the way. I could be on board with everything else and then I get there and there's no air conditioning, I'm going back. I'm out. Which then she nailed it with the look,

Starting point is 00:07:14 because you knew in the look that it, when he was like, oh, I wanna do this too, you could tell that she was kind of like, I don't know if this is for me. There was one shot of her, but you still got that from me. Yeah, when she was like, and then later she was like, just let me fuck up my life. Yeah, I wanna fuck up yours.

Starting point is 00:07:29 I wanna fuck up yours. And then Belinda, she takes the blood money, she does the same thing that happened to her. People were like, why would Belinda treat porn child the way that Tanya did? I was like, that's the fucking thing. It all came full circle. She did the same thing to him after getting,

Starting point is 00:07:45 and it makes sense that someone who would take blood money like that would also kind of turn around and be self, like that's the storyline guys. Like that to me is good. And I guess like if you, I just think, I think if it went the opposite way, people would have been like, they didn't tie up anything. They didn't, you know what I mean?

Starting point is 00:08:03 It's like, and that's where this show became, this got into the zeitgeist the same way, people would have been like, they didn't tie up anything. They didn't, you know what I mean? It's like, and that's where this show became, this got into the zeitgeist, the same way politics and sports does, where you're no longer even talking about the thing anymore. Yeah. You're just arguing the argument. Yep. And that's if you, if you didn't like white lotus and you didn't like this season, there was, there was confirmation bias out there saying the same thing as

Starting point is 00:08:21 you, you jumped onto that and anyone saying they did like it bothered you and so you argued it you weren't actually just looking at the show yeah that and that's a testament to how popular it is and like I think that's almost in a weird way that's where you want to be as a show because it means you've gotten so popular right but if you're like Mike White and the people who make it you're probably like you fuckers are not even looking at the material anymore it's like you're what people would just watch shows in completely different ways we're like yeah some people are watching for all the Easter eggs and stuff like that.

Starting point is 00:08:47 Other people just like, I don't know. They're watching to watch. Just tell me the story. And isn't this the ultimate show? We've said this before. It's the ultimate show to just watch. It's like, you're just getting a voyeuristic look at normal, well, crazy weird people, but normal people,

Starting point is 00:09:00 living their lives, and they have dark, perverted, weird secrets, and a crazy thing's going to happen. What happens? That's all it is. You know? So if this doesn't wrap up, this does wrap up, that's how life goes and that's what this show is. And I love by the way that they've just established that like every season we're gonna end with a couple body bags and the staff waving as like they leave. Oh, that's like every season? Yeah, I'm pretty sure. I did it again. It's the only one I've seen. So I'm excited to watch these ones too now.

Starting point is 00:09:26 The other ones, like you see them leaving and then you just see another crew of people coming in and it's almost like it just keeps going. This one didn't show new people coming in. A couple things I thought were weird that did make me, there was many times last night I was talking out loud. First of all, when Timothy Ratliff was poisoning everybody

Starting point is 00:09:47 multiple times throughout the show, I was going, are they gonna fucking do this? Are they gonna, oh my God, they're gonna do it? He's gonna fucking do it. And then I was like, no, he's not gonna. And they started drinking and I was like, they're gonna fucking do this. He's gonna wipe out his whole fucking family?

Starting point is 00:10:01 And then he stopped it and then Lachlan drank it and I was like Are they gonna kill the kid? Yeah, and I was like no and then there was a moment where he he kind of freezes and it looks like he dies You know and I was like they fucking killed him, but then he breathes then they did the water thing I was like he's dead and so I was screaming out my television for that and then there was three other times I think three other times that I really I Think it's a little weird. He didn't rinse out the fucking I just don't think anyone would pick up a dirty

Starting point is 00:10:26 blender and make it, but I don't know. I mean, that's... See, but I thought that was... I agree that is one of those parts where I'm like, if it was too much for you, I get it. It should have been like a little bit in the bottom or something. But I've always been a big...

Starting point is 00:10:41 I took like one screenwriting class in college where like a suspension of disbelief. I always just say that. Like that's my buzzword for like that phrase. It's a stupid kid, I don't know. In a more like, relatable sense I guess, than like phrasing it like that. It's just like, I don't know dude wacky shit happens all... There's a million times... If you told me that like a young teenage boy didn't clean out his fucking, you know...

Starting point is 00:11:02 I fucking, I never clean it out. You go to a dorm room and you look at like the fucking George forming role it's disgusting I literally never clean my protein shake it would be it would be weird if you always know is in it but like there just isn't so they almost should have just had him grab it and do it cuz he like look you know what I mean he doesn't know how to do it yeah that was like when sex is kind of you gotta do it yourself yeah he doesn't know what it's supposed to look like he doesn't know how to do it. Yeah, that was like when sex is kind of you gotta do yourself Yeah, he doesn't know what it's supposed to look like. He doesn't I thought that was okay I thought it was a little bit if you want to pick that fine. I thought it was

Starting point is 00:11:32 Pretty ridiculous that Rick went back to the hotel Like after you know, basically Almost you know trying to murder the guy like you're getting out of town You're not going back to the hotel didn't get out of town But I mean you went back to to murder the guy. Like you're getting out of town. You're not going back to the hotel. But he did get out of town. But I mean, you went back to the hotel the guy owns. But again, same thing. You could argue, yeah. You got like, yes.

Starting point is 00:11:51 He didn't do anything. You're fucking Dr. Strange type situation. But like he took a plane to a different part of the country. He thought he got out of town. He had to be coming back. He didn't know he was coming back. And then I didn't like that. I thought that shootout was crazy and I think people were like well they

Starting point is 00:12:06 inferred that him and Sam Rockwell were like were you know either in the military or killing people or assassins and I was like I didn't I I what oh cuz he like got I mean he got one guy I wasn't always a smelly he's not he snipes wonder than hits other guy right between the eyes they were clean just so they just think he's like too good a shooter. I think I thought that that was like a Little bit much. Yeah, like I think him point-blank shooting that guy was fine I think him be like papar diving behind Between the eyes I was like this guy all of a sudden became fucking you know Tom Cruise the mission of possible That's again, but like they're all like things that I was like okay with you know

Starting point is 00:12:43 Yeah, like they were just things that gave me pause I was like hmm, and then I did look up the dude by the way real quick Just you saying it reminded me Sam Rockwell. Yeah You know what he did that barrel roll And if anything if the internet and social media has taught me anything, this will be the case that that was improv. That was happening. Oh, 100%! Like that was such good drunk acting where you was just like, walking funny and then roll over to the TV.

Starting point is 00:13:16 We got it, we got it, we got the grip, we gotta go fast. When Rick starts leaving, he's like, you're leaving? We haven't gotten to the ice yet. Yeah. It's fucking unbelievable. Such a great, and he gets up on the, everything was just like, woo, that's Coke in Thailand. When he, they showed him at the end, like praying in the monastery,

Starting point is 00:13:37 I was very happy about that. Yeah. Cause well, I was bothered. I was like, Rick ruined this guy. He had achieved Nirvana. He was sober. He was living Nirvana, he was sober, he was living happy, and you just came in with this plot and these drugs and women

Starting point is 00:13:50 and like you fucked him. And I was like, what's gonna happen to him? And they showed him, I took that to mean he's kind of back on the straight and narrow, and I was like relieved. Because I was like, man, you did your boy so dirty. But, and then like, I'm sure, you know, Paz, I'm sure you could talk to this, but

Starting point is 00:14:06 like some of the imagery and the way it looked and you know, like Rick, Rick and Chelsea laying down in the water, like in the water, he's face up, she's face down. Some people saying that's the yin and the yang. I don't know if all that's true, but it looked cool. Like all, like the technical stuff, I think was probably fucking incredible. I mean, I, it was giving me a headache trying to keep up with how they shot everything. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:14:26 It was unbelievable. I, I, I, but yeah, I mean, it's, I would say negative. Really? I would say the consensus is like bad. Like I saw people be like- That's awesome, it's even more awesome than that. We all love it. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:14:38 I saw people be like, this was like the worst finale and the worst let down of a season ever. And I was like, it's just as a good reminder that we can live in different worlds, different fucking years. Somebody said Rick was the worst character Walton Goggins has ever played. And I was like, if there's one thing

Starting point is 00:14:59 I categorically can disagree with, it's that. I thought that was such a captivating character. He was kind of this dickhead, but you were rooting for him and he had this wonderful girlfriend you wanted them to get together and then he has the epiphany and you think they're gonna live together and then he goes back on all of it and like that's a saxon watching them like yes and you realize he's action realizing that's what it's like that's what you look yeah and he has the book and like in Piper's like,

Starting point is 00:15:25 what are you reading? And he's about to be serious. And then he's like, no, I'm still a dickhead. And you realize that it takes a lot for someone to change. There's so much. My favorite thing that they do at the end of every season is they show that everything on the island stays the same. But you go home different.

Starting point is 00:15:39 I love that. I thought they missed, they usually have the boat coming in to be like, there's a whole new crop of people where this shit is gonna happen again Yeah, it's the poor white lotus staff. We just have to keep dealing with it. But yeah like that that's just also from that Scene when when what's her face was talking about like the groups of people How everyone's connected in the groups? That's why you don't even you don't even know I wish Sir Lachlan had died because when he did I was like oh they were in the same group like right and

Starting point is 00:16:04 And then I thought that that was kind of cool because it was like you thought maybe sex it I don't know, but that's why I wish that they killed them Yeah, I think they should just committed to that I think they and oh the last thing that thought was funny was like everybody leaving and not acting like there had been a mass shooting like And not acting like there had been a mass shooting. Yeah. You'd be on the boat together being like, oh my god. They were just like, you know, talking about their trip.

Starting point is 00:16:30 So there were like five bodies, Mike. Yeah, legit. Rick's dead, Chelsea's dead, old dude's dead, two bodyguards. Fucking dead bodies. There was one thing that we were missing, I thought, for me, was like a post-credit scene of Mrs. Ratliff getting home

Starting point is 00:16:45 and realizing that she has no money anymore. That's what we needed. I kept saying I wanted to see the freak out so bad, and everyone was like, no, I want to see them hugging and whatever. I wanted to see the panic on Mrs. Ratliff. Or like, nah! Hi, bird!

Starting point is 00:16:59 We have no money! She had another, I feel like she had one more great line aside from like the Billions of people. Yeah One mother I thought was she was great. She was she like at the beginning I thought everyone was like an annoying character But in a good way at the beginning and then at the end all ended up having like great Why like they were all great? like they were like they were bad people and they were good people and they were all great like they were bad

Starting point is 00:17:25 people and they were good people and they were funny people and they were sad people and they were like everyone was everything and like she had what was it oh and when she's when she's talking to the daughter in the jewelry store and she's like well if it would make you happy I love that so much that was great She's awesome. If you could watch a spinoff of one of the groups of families, who would you want to watch? Well, prior to them being dead, I would have said I want to see more Rick, but he's dead.

Starting point is 00:17:55 I also would have said that Sam Rockwell. Sam Rockwell might be like, that might be a legit idea. Dude, it's awesome. To watch his journey to become that guy. It's awesome that people are like, if I feel like now just getting Sam Rockwell trained Dude, he's go watch three billboards outside of Missouri. He's a fucking I do I've been lucky enough like I saw him I saw him in American Buffalo twice. I was on the act on stage twice. He's a fucking Gangster he's good. He's a good best did you see uh Woody

Starting point is 00:18:25 Harrelson was supposed to be in the season no he also in three billboards outside of Missouri yeah he canceled to go on a family trip but I'm wondering who he would have been and who he would have been best as it had Sam it had Sam Rockwell I didn't but even I was thinking it would have been Rick or Tim I think it would have been among the main characters I don't think Woody would be a the only thing is Sam Rockwell is an easy replacement because he's Leslie Bibb's husband true so he was just going with yeah I can see that character being like what he can't make it and Sam being like look I'm fucking here I'll do it yeah I just thought he's such a name that he would have been one

Starting point is 00:19:01 of the main guys I think he would have been a good Rick I don't think I think I think I think Walter Goggins Jason Isaacs both did a great job So I wouldn't even want to replace them, but I could see him be Jason Isaacs He'll just pop up another one. He I mean he's For me arguably one of the greatest movie villains of all time which the Patriot. Yep. I mean he's as bad What he's in Harry Potter. He's in Harry Potter. Yeah, he's he's a motherfucker in the Patriot He's in the pay in the pay if you haven't seen the Patriot Mel Gibson Heath Ledger Jason. It's American Braveheart It's fucking unreal and Jason Isaacs is as bad a dude as you can

Starting point is 00:19:40 Yeah squad Jason Isaacs Mastered the look like I realized this episode like when, when he spoke, I was like, oh, he hasn't actually had a single line for the past, like, four episodes. Just, like, shots of him freaking out. But he stumbles around. Like, he was a wreck. The way that his face is, like, my whole world is crumbling down. Like, he's mastered that look.

Starting point is 00:19:57 It's just, like... It's good acting, man. He also was, like, such perfect, I guess, redemption for Duke. Yeah, I know know after getting the meme used a million times Saturday night it's like all right he didn't kill his whole family so bad what a crazy idea by the way had he gone through with it to kill everybody but lucky yeah I'll just leave my teenage son to find all the body you can find this off holy shit so if you're gonna wipe out your family wipe them out.

Starting point is 00:20:27 Don't fucking leave any loose ends man. I just couldn't, I couldn't believe how many people But it was like I could have told you going in like people made up their mind about this season a long time ago It became a thing, it became a storyline. Season three is not as good as season one and two. It became the It became a storyline. Season three is not as good as season one and two. It became the thing. And once that happens, it's a wrap for people who believe that. And that, you're just kind of ruining it for yourself. It's like, that was a good finale

Starting point is 00:20:52 that you did not allow yourself to like. And the things that even I agree with that we just talked about are not enough to ruin an episode of TV and a season of TV, and you let it, because you wanted it to. And that's fucking so lame. And this is coming from somebody who Like you know for the first ten years of being on the internet was probably that way like always

Starting point is 00:21:10 Quick to defend my first thought rather than just like maybe it changes. Maybe you flip-flop. Yeah, so like I've been there I get it, but it's a lot better to just and if you but if you don't like something fine But don't like something for the right reasons Right now like tell me what you like again Like I can see I wouldn't like that's why I was so excited I didn't know anyone's opinions. I was like I can see this going the other way I can see it not working for people but it just did I had full confidence a whole week because I was arguing people saying There's a worst most boring season. I was like kind of like don't give Brady two minutes. Like don't give I was like kind of like don't give Brady two minutes like don't give my

Starting point is 00:21:48 Like I think back to the other like somebody said We didn't have a moment like when they shit in the box There's a scene in season one where a guy takes a shit and I was like first of all they had brothers jerk each other off Yeah, so if you wanted your white load of shock value, we got it And they also I like kind of handled it well I thought I thought Lockie like genuine about it was so they also I like kind of handled it well. I thought I thought Locky being like genuine about it was so funny. Like I just I know you always talk about getting off and you were not helping you out. Stop dude. I go in that when he walked out, I was like that went about as well as we could

Starting point is 00:22:16 go. We addressed it. We're moving on. But like, I don't know, like first of all, if you need those moments, like I don't know that that's those if you need those moments like I don't know That that's those to me are like the cheap moments of the show like I thought it was weird when that guy took a shit Yeah, yeah, you know some of the weird sometimes the sex like stuff is almost like oh We're just doing this for shock value and also I think back to like Season one that the one dude. What's he's in on the show for? Jake Lucky, Lucy? Yeah, Lakey. Lakey. Like he was.

Starting point is 00:22:46 No, no, that would be crazy. His name's Jake Lakey. But it's something like that. It's something, it's for sure something like that. He was complaining that his room wasn't nice enough the whole first season. There was a bunch of things in the first one that I was just like, this is people just watching just watching you just watch people live in a hotel you know it's like I think that there's

Starting point is 00:23:09 a little bit of revisionist history and rose-colored glasses of seasons one and two that you know it's not the this like perfect unbelievable like it's just no different than and you know who I hate I I fucking hate? Guy talk. Fucking hate him. Guy talk? I hated him. How come? I hate, I mean, cause he just like, he wanted the girl, Jake Lacey, yeah. He wanted the girl, he wanted to be important, he wanted the job, and he just like fucking murdered somebody to get it.

Starting point is 00:23:40 And then like, they were driving away in like the nice car, he's got the shades on, and on and like everyone's smiling and I was like you just fucking like murdered this dude Yeah, like I don't know if you hate him as a person. Yeah Yeah, yeah, I know he's a great character. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's fine. I'm just saying that like he you know Yeah, you went from like a sympathetic character in my mind to be but he was always it was always going there. Yeah Yeah, yeah, it was always like it. She's like Kill him and she does it. I'm like, oh man, you're just you I mean you would literally do anything You'll kill a man to get your but even like to be fair like he killed a guy who would shot three guys Like he killed an active future. Yeah, but he like

Starting point is 00:24:18 Fucking guys who killed the kids call It's crazy. It's like, it also is a testament to like, if you, let's say, if you make content away saying that was incredible. The internet reacted. The internet, yeah. I would love to watch it with a hater. I mean, I'm not a hater. I'm not a hater. I'm not a hater. I'm not a hater. I'm not a hater.

Starting point is 00:24:52 I'm not a hater. I'm not a hater. I'm not a hater. I'm not a hater. I'm not a hater. I'm not a hater. I'm not a hater. I'm not a hater.

Starting point is 00:25:00 I'm not a hater. I'm not a hater. I'm not a hater. I'm not a hater. I'm not a hater. I'm not a hater. I'm not a hater. I'm not a hater. I'm not a hater. bubble right here in this studio we're in the cocoon I mean I watched it was five people and every single person walked away saying that was incredible okay internet react the internet yeah yeah I would love to watch it with a hater and be like please like tell me what what you don't like you know and and if you know it's valid it's valid but I just I think I mean is it political

Starting point is 00:25:20 or something like my white like liberal or something like yeah like a political. Yeah. Like is this viewed as like a liberal show and there's a bunch of like MAGA people being like fuck it or something? I weirdly actually. That's what it felt like to me. Like you want to hate the show for some reason. I don't get it. I recently, I saw someone, I love The Pit.

Starting point is 00:25:36 And I saw someone like say like The Pit, like finally liberal TV is back. And I was like, what are you talking about? I didn't, like, and then once I read that, I started thinking about The Pit. And I was like what are you talking about I didn't like and and then once I read that I started thinking about the pit and I was like oh yeah I guess it kind of yeah yeah but like I hadn't gotten like just watch the fucking show like you get messages but I don't attach it to a party agreed right like I mean I guess again I guess if there's like a fucking scene where they're arguing with people who wouldn't take a vaccine I guess guess that is liberal, but I just, I don't know,

Starting point is 00:26:06 I just thought of it as like. That's part of the storyline. It's not liberal, like most people take vaccines. But those people view. It's a weird thing to not take a vaccine. We mean you could watch that, but the people who view it through like everything through a political lens,

Starting point is 00:26:17 they'll right away jump onto that, you know? But it's just a miserable way to go through life. I feel like people just feel like intellectual criticizing like something that's so, you know? But like also, dude, like people cannot give credit and give flowers, you know? Think about how people who call, again, if this is considered a liberal show, I don't know.

Starting point is 00:26:39 Is that what you're saying? I'm asking because that's all it is. And if we're considering eat the rich liberal, I don't think. But like, dude, think about the Sopranos. The That's all it is. Yeah considering eat the rich liberal. I don't think there's like like to think about the sopranos the sopranos is Dude the sopranos is a fucking Mob boss in therapy his daughters in an interracial relationship. Yeah, right fucking gay storylines like everything That's just the world. That's life. It's just how the world works. Right. Like there's, I guess, I guess they're political things.

Starting point is 00:27:07 But if you watch it as like a liberal made this or a conservative made this like that I think that started like in recent years. You know, like everyone's always called Hollywood liberal. Right. Like I don't know. Again, I watched it. I did pick up on those storylines, but I wasn't like, I can't see this. The thing is also I could watch something that is skews both ways and see the good and the bad and both of it. Like if you but when you if you can't it ruins it for you. You know, if you're like, I am just like opposed to everything from that party.

Starting point is 00:27:38 And something is like that. But everything is politics if you want it to be like every politics is just life. Sex was drugs rock and roll. You know, it's just it to be right like every politics is just cuz it's just like Was drugs rock and roll, you know, it's just it's like it's how life is it actually weirdly enough Also in what I did yesterday, which is go to the caps game It's in that because Wayne Gretzky was sitting with cash Patel the whole time and like People were talking about that and I was like, I don't know. I didn't know who Wayne Gretzky was sitting with. Right. But then when I did see, I was like, yeah, you're right.

Starting point is 00:28:10 It is a little weird. I don't know what to tell you. It's a little bizarre that Wayne Gretzky sit with Casper. But like he was all those people. He was sitting literally right behind us. Gretzky. Like literally, as in like he was in the box, the boxes. But like it was right behind us like Gretzky like like literally as in like he was in the the box the boxes but like it was right above us got it and when he walked into the stadium I've never seen anything like it really I've never seen

Starting point is 00:28:34 I'm not surprised yeah the entire arena turned to watch like a king was walking I mean he's he's I know he's like out there like on tell it's not he's like reclusive or whatever but like I don't know you don't see him like out there like on tell it's not he's like reclusive or whatever But like I don't know you don't see him like out out You know I mean you see him on television, but to like see him is like I think a pretty big one It was like CNN like everyone turned there was a commercial break I forget there was a whistle for some reason and again I was like what's everyone looking at and then they were like grass grass. He just just like

Starting point is 00:29:05 But yes, so white lotus and they were like, Gretzky, just like, you know, eat some Bob-Ord. Yeah, man. But yeah, so White Lotus, and then the other side of it is like, there are people who love that show so much. Did you see that the composer left? Yes. The guy who made the opening theme had a beef with Mike White over like, the music. I don't even know what the beef was.

Starting point is 00:29:21 I know, definitely. The style of music or whatever. And so he's like, I'm out, I quit. Like, it's in this- He had a great line, me and Mike White have had our last fight. Yeah. And there were people like,

Starting point is 00:29:31 there was a, I saw like a discourse, creative agreements for the fuck, no wait, he does the music in general, not just the theme, right? Yes, he's the composer. So the whole, okay, yeah, yeah. So that is an important part. It's actually like a very, very important part.

Starting point is 00:29:44 When they start bringing in the original theme song every time a sad moment's happening, like it's unbelievable. That's awesome. And I hope, I mean, that's a big miss. You know, you lose out on that. But there was, you know, a whole discourse about just the opening theme I saw,

Starting point is 00:29:58 like people dissecting that. So there's probably also people who are just white, on the other side, that you could not give them anything that they would say White Lotus is bad. Right. You know? So yeah. And let me see.

Starting point is 00:30:12 I missed my review last week, but I think this review did well. I think, you know, so. You did an excellent review. Yeah. I already watched that. I was like, you did a good effort. That one I just ripped. I didn't really put much like, I just, that was from the heart.

Starting point is 00:30:23 One thing that I felt like went over my head. I would like an explanation for is when Lachlan was looking up and they were like the four Buddhist monks looking down and then he was like, I think I just saw God like that whole thing I'm sure there was a lot of symbols. I thought I took that as like Because then it was for four family members, right? He was his fifth, so. Oh, I took it as he's a Buddhist. Then he's- Like, cause he'd done-

Starting point is 00:30:52 Well, he went to the monastery and like, you know, bought into all that. As he being, like, that worked on him, not his sister. Yeah, right. So, like, that was his religion he'd found. The only thing I didn't like was that we left episode seven, I think, right? With him realizing that he jerked his brother off

Starting point is 00:31:08 and everything, was freaking out. And then it just was like he was okay. I don't think he, I never took it as he freaked out. I took it as he knew what he was doing. I feel like when he's at the monastery praying and his memory comes back to him, he was like, oh fuck. You remember what he did.

Starting point is 00:31:22 Oh, maybe I missed that. I think he's like, I'm gonna leave my whole life behind and stay here. He was like, Oh, fuck. You remember what he did. Oh, I mean, I missed that. He's like, I'm going to leave my whole life behind. And yeah, he was the one who bought into it. And Piper was the one who, you know, which is, I think also, like, I don't think Piper, I think it's cool that Piper, that's cool too. If you're like, wait, actually, that life's not for me. Yeah, you were willing to try.

Starting point is 00:31:39 Yeah. Right. And she said that at one point, right? Like, she was like, I don't want to be spoiled. Yeah. It's not crazy that you're that yeah, you're like whatever mine. Yeah I think it's pretty I think would be pretty phony for that girl to think that she could just go live on a fucking You know the stone floor her life. I think it's pretty real that she had the epiphany so a question for Jackie What was your thoughts on like the white girls dinner? I feel like they had that yeah

Starting point is 00:32:03 What was your thoughts on like the white girls dinner? I feel like they at that. Yeah Encompass my girl in the best way possible. I was gonna be full week But eventually like you guys all love each other. I like watch with my sister. We're like, oh my quite gets woman better than They the way that they capture that and especially like my friend group and I were all really like cordial with each other I would say where it's kind of like, we'll bite our tongues and not really say it, but my sister's friend group is like, they, the second one person leaves the room, they're all talking shit about that person. And then it's like, I literally like, I'm so scared.

Starting point is 00:32:35 I like don't pee when I'm with them, because I'm like, I know that they're gonna fucking talk shit about me, but, but, but it's kind of like, I mean, at the end of the day, like they're all like great friends and like, they all have each other's backs and love each other. And it's like that to a T. It's so funny because as a guy I was watching that, I was like, this is fucking crazy. No, but it's almost funny because my friend group, again, when we do fight, it breaks up the friend group.

Starting point is 00:33:02 Yeah, there's two ways to do it. I'm probably more like like that where it's like we're not going to say anything. But if we do, it's probably like a friendship ender versus you're not. You're going to stay together forever, but you'll be fighting like 85 percent of the time. I don't know what's I don't know what's the better or more healthy way to do it. But I thought that that is a great question. Carrie Coon is is unbelievable. She's on.. Yeah, I thought like it was so funny her being like I've been sad all week Yeah, but I love you guys About this if you're sitting with two girls, and you turn to one you say I'm happy you have a beautiful face

Starting point is 00:33:45 Because that was the first thing I went through my mind If you're sitting with two girls and you turn to one you say I'm happy you have a beautiful face And you have a beautiful light Because that was the first thing that went through my mind like Face actually thanks look, but I feel like it would have been meaner had Carrie Cooney beautiful, but she's Like the less made-up person in this show so yeah, she's clearly made to be Yeah, ugly stepsister. Whatever. She is, she's a gorgeous person of course. But if she had been, like Leslie Bibb was also beautiful. So it was kind of like, I'm happy you're beautiful and you have something else, but I feel like that

Starting point is 00:34:16 would have been a much more poignant call out had Carrie Boon Koon been the other person. Was way less, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think she only wears makeup once the whole season. Right, when she goes out. That I felt was like, I can't say for sure, but I would imagine a lot of girls watch that feeling either vindicated or that's yes or no, but they just felt something. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:34:41 Whether their group acts this way or that way. I thought that scene was arguably the most beautiful scene in the show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whether the group acts this way or that way. I thought that scene was arguably the most beautiful scene in the show. Yeah, I know. And that was like an afterthought for a lot of the action and shit, but that to me is like, that was the real shit. I'm also, I am like a, I would like stalk Carrie Coon.

Starting point is 00:34:56 I am a Carrie Coon stan. I fucking love her. She is unbelievable. No, but I feel like even you guys are always like, wow, like girls are cutthroat with each other. And I'm always like, but like it's the best. And you guys are like, what? But that's like, it captures it well.

Starting point is 00:35:11 It's like, but like, female relationships are the best. Yeah, I mean, I don't think I have that many guys that I could say I have like that type of relationship with. So, you know, where like you, it's almost like fight hard, love hard. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, it's almost like fight hard, love hard, you know what I mean?

Starting point is 00:35:26 Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty... Probably just have like a lot of surface level and then like a couple people that run pretty deep. But I don't know. I just think girls are crazy with how much they call each other out and like have open fights. And then they're just back together.

Starting point is 00:35:36 I don't know. It's... Do you guys... One less. Oh, sorry. You go. You go. When you were talking about like that, how they captured everything, like the cinematography

Starting point is 00:35:44 of it all, the whole, like in all of how they captured everything like the cinematography of it all yeah the whole like in all Like the reddit threads about the cinematography over there like why are they using such shallow depth of field? Which means like blurred background behind all the characters and everyone was pissed about that and I realized last night because they're like Why would you show off this beautiful island? It's because all the characters are so I just realized it are so self-absorbed That nothing just what's there and blur out them everything beetle right I just so good I can't I can't imagine watching that and being like oh again the net the not nothing happened like that is object that's objectively wrong but you can say you don't like something we can disagree it of opinion but you cannot tell me that nothing happened and I want to be clear

Starting point is 00:36:24 about something is this like a person said that or is that like the overwhelming opinion? You know, I I don't get like that man I'm not that active on Twitter anymore So probably you know a few dozen tweets come in and like a majority of them were saying that But even that okay 20 people. Yeah, yeah, but but I do find that that's usually an indication. Like, what I see is usually a sample size of what's going on, you know what I mean? I feel like the whole season people were like, oh, it's too slow moving and all this.

Starting point is 00:36:57 But first of all, there's so many storylines. They give you enough where I don't think it was. But the whole point is that you're supposed to be watching these families live as families without it being like a TV like drama. That's I Don't know like it delivers message got a little slow like in the middle episodes. That's about it. I thought I thought like episode four or five Because everyone was said slow to start and I was like, I don't think so Yeah, and then yeah, maybe four or five thing that dragged was like Timothy rattler found out in like episode two

Starting point is 00:37:30 He was fucked. Yeah, it didn't come to fruition till like the end. I it's a long but They're like it was it was like The motivator for everything he did. Yeah, it was it was it didn't not come into play It was in play the entire time. So you just said the motivator? The comment I saw that said Rick was like the worst character Walton Goggins ever played. I put that on my story and I was like, I just,

Starting point is 00:37:56 I, you know, sometimes I think I'm on a different planet from other people. Like, how could you think this? And then that same girl replied to me and said something like let me let me read it exactly because it was like I just couldn't again these are things that I think are like objectively not correct because she said agree to disagree oh she said I just don't think there was enough character development to warrant him killing the man six episode of constipated agitation from him and we never got a real reason

Starting point is 00:38:25 why and I said he thought that he murdered his father and she said agree to disagree that's why he doesn't like he he was under the impression that guy murdered his father and ruined his life that's why he's obviously you know not a delusional belief but like it's not you know, not a delusional belief, but like, it's not. You know, you murder your father, you can still, someone murder your father, you can still have a great life. Totally. It's obviously a huge obstacle. But if you were to be like, if you were to find out that someone held a lifelong grudge,

Starting point is 00:38:57 and you were like, what's the reason why, and you said he murdered my father, and you were like, that's not good enough. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's why he, a pretty big deal if you think that. It's a perfectly reasonable thing to hold a grudge over. Or agree to disagree. You can't disagree that that guy murdered his father or you know thought he murdered his father. Anyway so that that's that'll be you know.

Starting point is 00:39:22 Hax is back. Yeah is that next week or two weeks? I think next week. Last of us. Oh, you like to like my jacket. Well, I like you very much. This is Pedro Pascal's jacket. Really? The last of us. Is it the same kind as the blue one you have to?

Starting point is 00:39:38 No, this is a different brand. This is Huckberry. I met these guys in Austin. They have a brand called Flint and tinder and it's so cool They they are just kind of like a men's Lifestyle brand that had I think almost like an urban outfit or something. They have a bunch of other brands in their store and Like that's it the it's like the waxy. Yeah Did you buy because those pager pasc's or did you buy it and then realize no

Starting point is 00:40:05 So they they told me so this is when I met them down in South by Southwest We were just talking like business stuff and they said that like the casting or the wardrobe director like came into the store and was just like trying every jacket under the Sun and was like this is the one and he wore it and Takes off and like totally by chance. They didn't like reach out to the studio. They didn't like seed it, plant it. It was just like this woman was like,

Starting point is 00:40:32 oh, inside's cool too. Dude, that's how my cousin used to work at, she was the receptionist, I believe, at this little denim company. And she went to NYU and while she was just like at NYU, she was just like the receptionist for this little denim company. She went to NYU, and while she was just at NYU, she was just like, the receptionist for this little denim company. And then fucking, what's her name?

Starting point is 00:40:53 Angelina Jolie wore a jacket of theirs on the cover of People. And then Rag and Bone took off. Oh my God. No way. Dude, on one hand it's cool, and on the other hand it's like demoralizing that it's just like you can do everything right but if you don't catch that break, like, you're probably, your business is gonna go under.

Starting point is 00:41:11 Like you're not gonna have enough money, you know? Huckberry, which is the brand who made this, they sent me a whole bunch of stuff so they decided we're gonna do promo code K, I think it's KFC or KFC 15? Promo code KFC 15. So if you go to Huckberry.com, this is the Flint and Flint and Tinder jacket or anything to be honest. KFC 15. You get 15% off and it ends on April 10th. So just a quick little sale if you're interested in getting the Pedro Pascal Last of Us

Starting point is 00:41:38 jacket or any of the stuff at Huckberry promo code KFC 15. The fight for the green jacket is on at Augusta. Get all the action at Dread King Sportsbook today from the opening round through the championship Sunday. Dread King Sportsbook has got you covered with live betting, player props, and so much more. If you've never bet on golf before it is easier than you think. You just pick something simple like which golfer is going to win the tourney. Make your pick. It's that simple. They have a whole bunch of more complicated props and something for you know the diehard golf fans but if you're a casual fan and a casual better, they've got something for the first timers right now use promo code KFC And you get $150 in bonus bets instantly if you put up five bucks

Starting point is 00:42:13 So bet five dollars get 150 in bonus bets instantly when you use promo code KFC at the DraftKings Sportsbook app That's promo code KFC at DraftKings. The crown is yours gambling problem call 1-800 gambler in New York call That's promo code KFC at DraftKings. The crown is yours. casino in resorting Kansas 21 and over agent eligibility varies by jurisdiction void in Ontario new customers only bonus bets expire 168 hours after issuance for additional terms and responsible gaming resources see DK ng co-slash audio Speaking of I guess that business going under did you see Adam 22 coming out saying? They lose like as much money as bar still every month They lose like as much money as Barstool every month. You're saying what you think is a bad month Adam? We call that business here.

Starting point is 00:43:10 I honestly think that's a complete joke. I actually think Barstool is doing really well. Wow, I didn't see that number. $2 million a month. But I thought it was an interesting... I think there was a time Barstool was losing that. I don't think it's happening anymore. Sure. I think it was almost like exactly that. Yeah. I think there was a time bar still was losing that. I don't think it's happening anymore. For sure.

Starting point is 00:43:25 I think it was almost like exactly that. Yeah. I think it was closer to one million a month, but yeah, there was, there was, there was, we got some, we got a little fat there for a time. Yeah. I do hate that those layoffs happened, right? But I mean, to just like go back to that,

Starting point is 00:43:44 we laid off, you know, a lot of people and nothing changed The well, I don't know about that anymore. You don't think so. I think we fucking text a lot about But I mean like But like the business, you know, the business kept going and actually I think became more profitable in ways You know what I mean? So like it's just a you know And actually, I think became more profitable in ways. You know what I mean? So like, it's just, you know, those things suck. But sometimes it's like, you know, when people are not.

Starting point is 00:44:08 But there are still a lot of times where I go, what's going on? Wait, you're saying that we need more? I don't say we need more. I'm just saying I noticed a change. I noticed things did stop moving as fast. I think they never moved. So that might be my, but I thought it was, it's just all a very interesting case where like I think he's probably not alone in that like business exploded for him in the pandemic. And they expanded based on that.

Starting point is 00:44:34 And then things contracted. And now you're like, fuck. He's like, we bought a four million dollar warehouse to like operate out of. We have a storefront on Melrose. We have a whole bunch of new editors. We hired eight new content people. Their Patreon was crushing. Their brand deals were smoking like everything was going. And then, you know, life goes back to normal. Some things fall off and you're like, you know what I mean?

Starting point is 00:45:01 It's just, it's, I remember when I worked at Deloitte, when I started was when the big recession hit. And the business I was in was directly tied to the recession. So prior to that, everything was booming. So those people were all getting fat bonuses. And they started to buy apartments and live with those bonuses.

Starting point is 00:45:19 And then that shit went away. Overnight, it was gone. And those people were like, what the fuck do I do now? now? I was like that's why it's a bonus but people get so used to that you know so I think that was kind of what they fell victim to and I think that on its own you probably can survive because you've got to get through a couple Dean years and then it takes up for another reason you know but then they got hit with a lawsuit from a previous employee they fired who was like, I think it's bullshit, like grievances, and they lost their Instagram page, just

Starting point is 00:45:50 bull meta deleted it. And it's like all that comes together. Yeah. But also, like, that's one of the things that I feel like Barswell kind of has to think about, too, is like, well, when you hire insane people, sometimes you might catch a fucking lawsuit from a young employee. Right, and he dabbles. We're hiring all these wacky people, they're fucking nuts! Again, they might act nuts to you. Right.

Starting point is 00:46:11 When Jerry Bryant might beat your face. It might happen. Yeah, we are the lady who owned the chimp. Yeah. And eventually our face is gonna get beaten in and we're gonna go, Who saw this coming? So, but you know, it's a... and we're gonna go, who saw this coming? When you really do content like he does, like he runs a little empire of his own,

Starting point is 00:46:35 it's again, almost like the Mike White thing, you know what I mean? Like this is a very successful brand, pretty entrenched in hip hop. And by the way, it's also like porn and all the other shit he does is fine. He's like this this brand of his business, but You know again, it's like you can be little little Creator likes trying to make it and it's like Adam 22 is running the fuck. Yeah, even once you make it you're tough

Starting point is 00:47:01 You know it's a testament to actually how much Barstool and Dave succeeded because he did expand. Then he hired all these people. And all those people ended up leaving or fighting or suing. And for the most part, everybody at Barstool is afraid of Ava. That's the thing.

Starting point is 00:47:17 But for the most part, we all, it worked. And people didn't burn it down and didn't sue. Maybe that's luck. Maybe that's a testament to how he ran the operation, whatever it is. It's hard enough to become big on your own, and then it's really hard to run a whole brand. And even once you make it, there's no guarantees that it's gonna stay that way.

Starting point is 00:47:40 But I thought it was very interesting. I also thought it was a smart move by him to just be real about it. He was kinda like, I made my content by just being an open book. So I told you about everything else. I might as well tell you this. Like, shit's not going good right now. I almost said that was a little like marketing in a way,

Starting point is 00:47:53 because it's gotten a lot of attention. I think he did immediately get a Facebook rep is helping him now. That shit is fucked up. When they just delete your account, that's fucked up. Yeah, because that is honestly like the the pandemic like Imagine you just owned a restaurant and you just spent ten years getting people to come in your doors And then one day the doors were just shut and they don't tell you why You just show up and the city just shut you down and your business is gone

Starting point is 00:48:16 That's the equivalent of just taking like a multi-million following account and just it's gone Yeah, and they don't tell you why they can't you you know, fight it. Like it's just that to me needs to change. I don't know how they can really justify doing that. Like he said, he's like controversial, but he's not like crazy. Yeah, it's not like he's people don't like him for whatever reason, but it's not like you can't operate on our platform crazy. Wait, was he doing it asking for money or he was just like, he at the end he was like, what can you do to help? Like, you know, if you want to like support the

Starting point is 00:48:49 Patreon, here's a link. It was not like, you know, I don't think it was a just a scam. Yeah. I think at the end he was like, if you're down with the brand, here's how to help it. I like Adam. I know people, people, uh, I said in my video that I made

Starting point is 00:49:02 for him, I was like, he's a good dude. He's a good creator. People are like a good dude. I don't know. I mean, he's got a little bit of checkered past and I think people think it's weird that he lets guys fuck his wife He's not doing it to me I like him but uh, I I see that the satisfying downfall is a YouTube there. Like I think there's a lot of people people were happy to see that I think He also talked a lot of shit along the way like yeah I was listening to Joe Budden pot and he was dancing on his grave and they played clips of

Starting point is 00:49:30 Adam being like I'm fucking bigger than Joe Budden You do that and then you you know put a video out being like I'm going broke You know Dave Dave's gonna pop a bottle on you sort of thing Let's feel like he has the same mannerisms as Nate There's a little bit of that. Yeah. I've heard that before. I had not heard it and I don't know him well enough, but I can just, I can see it.

Starting point is 00:49:51 They're both like poker bearded guys. I don't know, I get it. Like if people were in groups, the way that white people do it. Those two are connected, you just don't know it. I went to that game yesterday. Oh yeah, yes, so Fites got to see OV's dude that was record-breaking goal I think it's like the first game

Starting point is 00:50:08 I've ever been to that had historical implications, and I wasn't working so that was nice There that was that's cool. I knew Nate was there But uh fucking sick He's the best. What I've always said about Ovi is like my favorite thing about him is that every goal he scores, it looks like it could have been his first. He celebrates so hard every time.

Starting point is 00:50:37 He just loves scoring goals. That's just what I do. I drink Coors Light and I fucking... Dude, if it was goal number one goal eight ninety two He celebrated like like I might never score again. Yeah, and then having like the penguin belly slide. Yeah 95 using this no, it's the goal Alexander Ovechkin scoring what ends up becoming the record for most goals in NHL history a record no one ever thought would be broken So on the left side there.

Starting point is 00:51:11 And he's just like a kid. He embodies exactly what I think about when I think of hockey. Where he's like, I'm just having fun. I'll bang bodies. I'll fucking fuck people up and I'll score goals. That's what this game's about. I'll bang bodies. I'll fucking fuck people up and I'll score goals. That's what this game's about. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, it was a beauty too.

Starting point is 00:51:28 Dude, we were in the exact opposite end because Nate, genuinely in very thought out and thoughtful process, Ovechkin scores all his goals from right there, from that dot. And so we were on the side where the capitol shot twice, and we were in that dot. So it was like perfect seat. He scored in the second period, not the first or third.

Starting point is 00:51:51 So it was on the other end of the ice, but like. So had it been the first or third, he would have been on that side. It would have been on that side. But it ended up being perfect, because it was like a power play, as you saw, they were kind of getting into the zone. So I was kind of looking down,

Starting point is 00:52:02 and I looked up, and the puck was getting on over his stick And I just saw how big his windup was and my brain was going he's burying this. Yeah Fucking Barry came running. I Honestly, I didn't know how I would react in them. Like I was like my hat was off. I was like, oh my god I'm like watching Cuz it's like you knew it was, it's not like, there was plenty of time left in this season for him, you knew he was gonna break it.

Starting point is 00:52:28 You know what I mean? So there was no like, but you're still, when it happens, it happens, you're like, holy shit. But going into that game, like we were opening the doors to the arena, and Nate like turned around and he's like, he's doing it today, right? And I was like, oh my God. Yeah, definitely.

Starting point is 00:52:41 It crossed my mind that he might not. Yeah, yeah. And then we met up, because you know, obviously Nate knows like a couple of like the, not Islanders, Cap crossed my mind that he might not. And then we met up because obviously Nate knows a couple of the Islanders capitals, like media guys and stuff like that. So we met up with a couple of them and they were talking about it too. Like you think he does it?

Starting point is 00:52:52 And I was like, what are you guys talking about? He's the greatest goal scorer of all time. You know what's cool? And he's playing hockey today. He's gonna score. He needed to do it in that game to beat Gretzky, right? Yes. It was one less game than Gretzky, right?

Starting point is 00:53:04 No, I think that ultimately was the tie. So same amount of games. I think he beat him in the same amount of games I think. I thought he tied the record one ahead of him. So then he beat him in the same amount. I think so because this was the next game right? Yes. Yeah yeah yeah. So I think he did it in one last game. So there was like a little bit of made up pressure if you wanted to break that record you know what I mean? So the fact that he did, did do it. Unbelieveable. Um, 1487 games, 20 seasons. It's almost 50 goals a year. Oh, and that, so that there was this guy who tweeted back in 2014, like no one's breaking Gretzky's record. You would need to score 50 goals a year for 20 years

Starting point is 00:53:50 Like it's just and they go impossible. It's impossible today's game and and he got cold takes exposed It's like it's like being like, you know, the Sun is always gonna come up guys And then one day it doesn't and the world spins off his axis and people go look at this fucking guy Who said the world the Sun is always gonna come up. That's what's happening here. Which to be fair, it is indefinite. It is definitively a cold tweet. He was wrong. He was wrong. He was like, he was single out. He was exactly wrong. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:54:15 Everything he said is it happened to a T 50 goals a year for 20 years, basically. But it is silly. I'm not, I'm not. I think Cole takes, unfortunately is kind of, you know, I like the guy we've met him he's a nice guy yeah I think that idea has kind of lost well you know what it was the early days you have to remember that like we're still in the infancy of social media and several years ago we were like really in the infancy like you were a freak if you got on from like 2009 to 2013 right and know? And then from 2013 to 2018 was like the good years before it got like too political.

Starting point is 00:54:51 So it's like one little window where we were just starting to give predictions and takes and jokes and all that shit so that there was this account that was kind of this arbiter and this like judgment of the good ones and the bad ones was cool. Once it becomes ubiquitous that like It's just everyone has this and everyone talks about everything. Yeah, there's gonna be rights and wrongs It's just silly but But that one was a particularly

Starting point is 00:55:18 Oh, and I can't I'm so mad at Twitter. I after Duke lost I all week, at least again on my internet, I follow a lot of basketball accounts. Tracy McGrady went viral talking about which 16 seed, if you put an NBA player on a 16 seed, would they win the championship? And Tracy McGrady was like, you could put some scrubs on there. Basically, you didn't say those words, but he was like, you could put one regular NBA on there. Basically, you can say that word, those words, but he was like, you could put regular, one regular NBA player on a team and they would win the title.

Starting point is 00:55:49 And I just think it's funny that like, Cooper Flag, by all measures, people are like, he's going to be an NBA savage. Yeah. He was on a one seed and they didn't win. Right. Same thing when Zion Williamson was at Duke, like they didn't win.

Starting point is 00:56:03 So, and I get the point is like five years from now when Cooper Flagg is an established NBA veteran, he'll have more experience bigger and better. And if you were to drop him back on Duke, would they win? But you're talking about a guy who right away is probably going to play at a very high level in the NBA and you're not putting on a 16 seed. You're putting him on last year.

Starting point is 00:56:20 They were like a three seed and he's playing with other Duke players and they couldn't win. Yeah. So I always just thought that argument was ridiculous. I think they were like a three seed and he's playing with other Duke players and they couldn't win. Yeah, so I Always just thought that argument was ridiculous So I tweeted right after they lost if you put Cooper flag on a 16 seed would they win and people were like he just lost on a one seed Flooded and I was like, oh this place is cooked You know, you would either understand the joke and understand the satire

Starting point is 00:56:40 But more importantly you everyone wouldn't like maybe it's because there's too many algorithms or whatever Everybody would have like known the joke you know that that was the talk known that was the viral debate leading up this week you just can't count on it yeah well you know that's actually kind of interesting in on the ride home yesterday Nate and I were talking I forget about what like what specifically but we're talking about the term viral hmm what does it mean no what it like what was the last thing in your head Like what specifically but we're talking about the term viral Hmm. What does it mean? No, what like what was the last thing in your head?

Starting point is 00:57:15 Cuz I go we're talking about the same thing how like the internet and and therefore reality really is different for everybody It's just catered to us. So it gets hard for something to go. But when something went viral Everyone knew about it saw yeah every single person knew what the fuck you were talking about. That's like, I would say Morning Routine Guy went viral. I think a lot. Morning Routine Guy, okay, that's a good one. That was recent, but I think if you say Morning Routine Guy to people, they know. Okay, that's a very good answer. But that went everywhere. I would say in recent time...

Starting point is 00:57:40 Montoya was a little sad. I'm throwing out moms and dads. That's usually my big check too. Hot Tua is probably the last one. Hot Tua is a good one. Hot Tua. But that's probably like for this year, there's probably like, you can count on one hand every year. That's it.

Starting point is 00:57:53 Right. And people say like, if a tweet gets like a million views, like it went viral. And like, I don't think you're crazy for using that word. Yeah. But viral, what it used to mean was the world knew what you were talking about. Yeah. A pandemic.

Starting point is 00:58:07 Like COVID. It went everywhere. There's like inflation on virality now. Like one million blue views is like. It's like, I mean, that that that debate we had last episode about the woman. 89 million. Yeah, that was like last checked by over 100 million views. That woman being like my husband to take out the garbage that whole oh Yeah, that's a lot of fun

Starting point is 00:58:28 Montoya level but even that like that kind of I got that doesn't count as viral for me Yeah, I agree a woman is also playing about a husband like yeah. Yeah, that's right Yeah, that's like it didn't that didn't go viral people wanted to use you for a reason to share their opinions. Correct. Like going viral means that you have merits on your own that are like interesting. Can you check, you know Dom Lucre, do you know that guy? D-O-M-L-U-C-R-E on Twitter. I think that's the guy who posted this. He posted, go to that Breakthrough Narratives, nothing. Go find his Usher tweet, should be within the last couple tweets.

Starting point is 00:59:10 I think it's just a made up story. Usher, you know how he like seduces women at his show? He does like a little thing with the cherries. And this tweet, yeah that one. How many views does that have? 17 million. So that's not as big as I thought it was going to be. But the story was just that this woman, her husband, divorced her. I think it's just entirely made up. I think that tweet is just made up. There's no evidence at all.

Starting point is 00:59:31 But people just wanted to... I almost think of it like ATI in a way. Or am I the asshole? I don't know if this story is real or not, but I'm using this to just debate. Where I let my wife get to do some things. I have opinions that I've been holding in until something gave me even an excuse to share them off Yeah, here it is. Yes That's all those things. Those are different now. I think I

Starting point is 00:59:52 Would think a good either it has to be ubiquitous Everybody knows about it or it has to translate into real life like have you seen chicken jockey? No chicken jockey's I saw that something. Chicken jockey is awesome. Did Gooch say, Gooch, I think Gooch tweeted like a screenshot of like, he was talking to like his 11 year old nephew who said chicken jockey and because I read it there, I assumed that had something to do with the Minecraft movie.

Starting point is 01:00:17 Bro, so Minecraft movie comes out. Okay, it does. Yes. Okay. Minecraft movie comes out. There's this scene where Jason Momoa was fighting in a boxing ring and chicken jockey comes out. There's this scene where Jason Momoa is fighting in a boxing ring. And Chicken Jockey comes out. It's a Minecraft character who's a little baby zombie, and he's riding on a chicken.

Starting point is 01:00:31 And this box comes down and Jason Momoa is like, who am I going to fight? And it comes down and Jack Black goes, it's Chicken Jockey! And at that moment, the crowd, the theater goes bonkers. They're all with popcorn, drinks flying in the air, to the point that movie theaters have called the cops and are waiting for it to happen and to shut people down. They put up signs that said like, we know Chicken Jockey's epic, but please don't do this.

Starting point is 01:00:59 It is, there's one scene, this one you can't, this is what the, you can hear it, but there's one, there's another one where like, it's a bunch of 13 year old boys, and're like, Chicken Jockey! Look at this, they're literally like, they stopped the movie and dragged these kids out. No way. There's kids in the background going, thank you for your service. This, by the way, is guaranteed to make Chicken Jockey a thing now. Oh.

Starting point is 01:01:45 It was already a little bit of a thing. Now, fucking forget about it. I kind of want to go to a good Minecraft viewing right now. 100%. I'm planning on taking Keegan. And I was like, I want to go. And so I think it's crazy. If I was at movie theater, I'd be saying, come to mine.

Starting point is 01:02:01 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we'll clean it up. You know? Because I would, for sure, if I knew that was going to happen, I'm taking Keegan to that theater 100 times out of 100. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And like, we'll clean it up, you know? Because I would for sure, if I knew that was gonna happen, I'm taking Keegan to that theater 100 times out of 100. Yeah, yeah. Those are the, like, and so that to me is viral. Like that's like, this started online,

Starting point is 01:02:14 I guess it started when the trailer had him say Chicken Jockey, and the internet like latched onto it, they just like thought that moment was funny, and it just spiraled, and then people do it in real life. That to me is like, that's real. There's like a movement there, you know? Dude, that's fucking, it's funny. I was just reading an article last night, I think,

Starting point is 01:02:31 about video game movies and how they've like- Just broke the record. They figured it out. They were like, video game movies figured it out. They still can't figure out how to make movies like the game, but they figured out how to basically market. The article is about how when video game movies started,

Starting point is 01:02:54 I think it was the 80s, 90s, 90s, with Leguizamo and whatever for Super Mario, and it was like, it was made for adults. And then everyone, and then it was going through like The Max Payne years when it was like Assassin's Creed It was just heavy shooters like we just made video games for I think it was saying Finally they've made video games for 13 year olds rather than the 13 year old at heart But it is you make it for the 13 year olds and the 13 year olds of heart, enjoy it. Like can, you know what I mean?

Starting point is 01:03:25 Yeah, yeah. I like the Mario Brothers movie. I don't like Minecraft as much, but I'll probably like this movie. Right. But I won't like say it should win an award. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you'll enjoy it. Yes, yes.

Starting point is 01:03:36 That's what the movie should be. I think they, I think, who was the? Resident Evil it was talking about. But like Tomb Raider, Tomb Raider worked. Tomb Raider worked, but I don't know if it worked I mean they're successful like they've yeah they're big box opposites how many they made um I think a few did they I want to because there's Jolie did a couple and there's the other girl I didn't really see a one Vicander I think I would say three or four yeah three yeah the Assassin's Creed was...

Starting point is 01:04:06 Fastbender. Fastbender, and I think like that, you're trying to make that into an epic film. Yeah. And I don't blame you, because it would be cool if you nailed it. But it's hard. It's a little bit silly.

Starting point is 01:04:15 It's like, it's at heart. You know what would be a, almost the reverse of this, did you see the movie The Gorge? No. Shitty movie. Oh, with Miles Teller? would be an awesome video game. Miles Teller and Anna Taylor Joy.

Starting point is 01:04:29 If you flipped it, if I was a character, if I was playing this video game, I would love this. This movie sucks. And that's, you know what I mean? If it's a bad movie, it's probably a good video game. Yeah, they're like protecting, the gates of hell are like in this gorge and they need to They they both live on a post for a year by themselves secluded and they have guns

Starting point is 01:04:52 They just need to shoot the things anytime they come out But they like fall in love with each other over the over like binoculars writing notes and shit It is staggeringly bad. Yeah, but enjoyable But if it was a if I But if it was like, okay, I'm a soldier alone in the woods protecting these monsters, zombies coming out, I think that's a great video game. Yeah, yeah. Have they done that before?

Starting point is 01:05:13 Would they make a movie and do a video game? That'd be cool if they made like The Great Gatsby or something random. A video game? Yeah. Made The Gatsby a video game? Yeah, like something random. It's just GTA, you just fuck hot chicks. This video game rocks.

Starting point is 01:05:26 I just have parties and fuck chicks. Yeah, but I want to go see Chicken Jockey now just for that moment. I really do, by the way, like that, this is a good example of the way the world used to be. Like all those kids just talked until it spread. You know, they had the internet, but like I genuinely think one of the greatest phenomenons in human history

Starting point is 01:05:57 is all of us knowing those urban legends without the internet. I like every school from New York to California knew that Marilyn Manson removed his ribs, Lil' Kim got her stomach pumped, all those things, like how did that happen? Without the internet. Summer camp.

Starting point is 01:06:16 Summer camp, your cousins, my cousin said this, and like it got to every single school, like life finds a way, man. Those stories find a way. So the internet kind of makes it a lot easier, but that shit was real viral, you know? That's like true viral. But yeah, Chicken Jockey, taking the world by storm.

Starting point is 01:06:34 From handcrafted steaks to grilling favorites, Omaha Steaks delivers the world best steak experience. It's springtime, you're cleaning off the grill, you're getting outside, you're out there flipping burgers, flipping steaks, cooking up some cutlets, and Omaha Steaks has you covered for all that with USDA certified tender steaks, burgers, and so much more. As the weather warms up, it's the perfect time to get fired up with exceptionally handcrafted flavor and convenience of Omaha Steaks. They deliver everything to you with unrivaled quality and variety where every bite is backed by their 100% guarantee. Everything is aged perfectly to maximize tenderness. It's hand cut by master butchers, grass fed, grain finished beef with more marbling for

Starting point is 01:07:14 exceptional flavor. It's the choice of both steak houses and professional chefs around the world and you can have it right in the comfort of your own home. Gets delivered to you. You can throw it in the freezer store for the rest of the year or whip them all up as soon as you get them. Fresh or frozen, Omaha Steaks is delicious. So bring home the world's best steak experience. Go to omahastakes.com. Get 50% off, half off the entire site during their spring savings event. And you get an additional 30 bucks off of that 50% off when you use promo code KFC radio at checkout.

Starting point is 01:07:47 So OmahaStakes.com 50% off the entire site and additional $30 discount when you use promo code KFC radio. See site for details. Did you guys drink any midnight beans this weekend? I did not drink any. Where was your girls pregame Jackie? I didn't drink any at all. Okay then it's fair.

Starting point is 01:08:01 So I took the weekend off but how is it? Great week of reading to take off. Yeah, yeah, that's right. Thanks, thanks. That's good. We're getting it in, it's so tough to, I don't know, I'm still learning as I go. Part of me was like, I should've just waited a month for this to all be in every store,

Starting point is 01:08:20 but the stores don't stock it until there's demand. So I gotta create the buzz and get the people to call and ask for them to stock it. But it feels a little bit like I'm like, go get your bottle now. And everyone was like, we tried and we can't. Yeah, they're going to stock it, but it's going to take two weeks. And I remember that I just I didn't realize it until you said it. We were texting this weekend. I remember early Pink Whitney days early something

Starting point is 01:08:55 That's the best way to scratch your eye your knuckle in there in the full fucking thing It's like neat I don't know why he brought up Nate this episode. He's like, whenever he nucks someone, he does this. His nucks are his nucks. He puts his hands like this. Yeah, yeah. I don't know. I don't want to nuck to feel so uncool. I make it so uncool.

Starting point is 01:09:19 It is. It's always like that. What's up, dude? Why are you doing it like that? It's just like a, it's a hoof. Yeah. Give it a. He's like clapped like're like, why are you doing it like that? It's a hoof. Yeah. He's like, clap. Well hoof it up dude.

Starting point is 01:09:27 Yeah. But I asked Grinnell that, cause I was like, was Pink Whitney everywhere? And he was like, no, no, we were nowhere. I was like, all right. Yeah. My goal was obviously to be like that. After your local liquor stores to stock it.

Starting point is 01:09:38 So actually what I think I'm gonna do, maybe I'll just do it now. Originally I was gonna do, and we'll still do this, we're gonna do both. But my first thought was gonna be, buy a bottle, shake up your martini, the best picture wins free espresso for a year, free espresso martini for a year.

Starting point is 01:09:55 So make it look pretty, take a picture, like Saturdays of the Boys style, in front of a monument, the craziest place that someone had a midnight bean martini, those things you win a case we're gonna do that but I think the first thing I'm gonna do is if you submit a video of you calling your local liquor store asking to supply it you will be in the running for free merch and free midnight bean because that I think it's

Starting point is 01:10:20 almost like you need to advertise to the distributors right and then but the distributors don't do it unless there's demand yeah so it's almost like you need to advertise to the distributors first. Right. And then, but the distributors don't do it unless there's demand. Yeah. So it's this whole chicken or the egg thing where it just takes time. And then the other thing is that alcohol regulations in America are, it's just fucking insane. It's a state by state thing where it rolls out and like this state allows it. This state doesn't. This state's one month.

Starting point is 01:10:38 This state's the next month. Well, that's what we fought the Civil War for. Yeah. That's right. States rights, baby. States rights. I don't know how. But so people were like, do you have a store locator?

Starting point is 01:10:49 And I asked them, and they said, it would be crazy to do a store locator for this, because it's going to be nationwide. But what that means is it is available everywhere. Other times, when we've done these things, it's like, it's never going to be available in Michigan. Not going to be. This, it will be, it's never gonna be available in Michigan. Not gonna be. This, it will be, but it still takes time to get there.

Starting point is 01:11:07 So, you know, make sure you call your liquor stores, call your restaurant, you know, all that stuff, when you speak to an owner. Give them a call anyway. You know what I mean? Yeah, say what's up. Just call them and see what's up. What's up, man?

Starting point is 01:11:20 How you doing? No one ever calls a liquor store to see how you're doing. Yeah, they don't pick up the phone. They just be like, how is you and your family cool? You have midnight be that that? Although all the videos submit like first you have to be like hey, man. How you doing? You're right And then he's gonna take 20 minutes cuz it's gonna be the first time someone's ever asked yeah Yeah, and afterwards you go hey, I'm glad we talked that out Like viral on my tick tock TikTok and probably not anybody else's,

Starting point is 01:11:45 but it was like girls calling up being like, hey, are there any cute boys at the bar right now? Is it worth going? So how about you do that and then while you're there say, by the way, can you get some midnight bean? Love that. I just, I- You know the, sorry to interrupt,

Starting point is 01:11:57 there was an app back in the day that advertised on the bars on a blackout tour that I forget what it was called. There was a video, right? Of a bar? It wasn't a video, but it had the statistics. Oh, okay. So it would have, like in college towns, like if you had, you could look up a bar

Starting point is 01:12:15 you wanted to go to that night, and you could see is it packed, is it light, is it 50-50, guys, girls, how is it? And that went out of business because no bars wanted everyone to know that there was no one there. Yeah. Oh. Empty, bro.

Starting point is 01:12:29 It's fucking empty. That also, though, to me- In college town, there's one good bar every night. And none of the bars were like, yeah, let them know. No one's here. Those things also don't make, like, to me, they don't make logical sense. It's almost like, remember how Yacht Week was a sausage fest? Because

Starting point is 01:12:46 everybody saw the things for Yacht Week. It was like, let's go. It was just all dudes. Let's go. And then you show up and it's all dudes. And like same sort of thing. If you told me that the bar is all girls and everyone goes on that app, all the dudes are going to go. But I also, I used to say the same thing about GPS. I never understood GPS. If GPS is telling you there's traffic here, everyone go this way, then doesn't the traffic go there? That's why I don't use Waze. But it does work. Yeah, I know, but I don't care.

Starting point is 01:13:11 I know it works, don't care. That's how I feel about most things. You just raw dog it? You don't put in like where you're going, you just go? No, I go in GPS, but I won't take alternative ways. Can I say my bar idea? Yeah. yeah okay you enter like a lottery basically every like Friday you have like a reservation enter a lottery you say how many your reservation is and then it like gives you back a number of what when you're called in so sometimes

Starting point is 01:13:39 you could be first you be the first there like again not fully thought out not fully fleshed out you could be you could be like first in the doors. Or some weekends you're last in the doors. But you don't know. Okay. Why is that? This is this is one that was there in my head just as I'm saying that's terrible. What would you got there on your own? You got there on your own. I just saved myself like millions of dollars doing this bar. But like, but there's-

Starting point is 01:14:06 You could have been out of 22 in a week. My business has gone broke. Exactly. Okay, but some element of like, you know, there's like a call list. You know, scratch it. I'm taking this out. It's gotta be top three worst idea I've ever heard of. Imagine getting a number being like, you can go to the bar tonight at 2 a.m.

Starting point is 01:14:21 And you're like, I'll wait, I'll wait to go to that bar for five more hours. But then you would say like, okay, I don't have to wait in line and I tonight at 2 a.m. And you're like, I'll wait, I'll wait to go to that bar for five more hours. And then you would say like, okay, like, I don't have to wait in line and I know like at 2 a.m. I will get in, I'll be like, I didn't get a good lottery this time, but let's just go to another bar and then at 2 a.m. we go in.

Starting point is 01:14:39 It's not my best. Yeah, back to the drawing board with that one. I like shooter, shooter, shooter, bro. Shooter, shooter, shooter, shooter, shooter, shooter. Okay? Let's do Dennis, by the way, what to the drawing board with that one. Shooter's shoot. Hey, they're starting out. Shooter's shoot, bro. Shooter's shoot. OK. We just do Dennis, by the way. What's the song? It's like, you're shooting a shoot.

Starting point is 01:14:49 I do Dennis. What's up with you? Do you guys know that? No. It's on my TikTok. Never mind. Oh, another idea. Rubber clasp on a completely separate, on like a bag,

Starting point is 01:14:59 so that it doesn't fall on your shoulder. Like, as men, do you guys have this when, if you're carrying like, I guess you're not carrying purses, but if you're carrying like a tote bag, yeah, you kind of are, does it fall off? Does it fall off? Not really. Okay, well. I can see there being function there,

Starting point is 01:15:15 but I could see girls not wanting to put their. I mean, like occasionally I'll give it one of these. Yeah, you have to fix it. Occasionally I gotta give it one of those, but. You know what it feels like the rubber red soles that you put on your Louboutins. Yeah. It's like, nobody wants to do that. Yeah, yeah have to fix it. Yeah. Occasionally, I got to give one of those. But I wouldn't say I do it. It feels like the rubber red soles that you put on your Louboutins. Yeah. It's like, no, we want to do that.

Starting point is 01:15:28 Yeah. All right. I'm like, oh, for two. Two. We'll get there. That's all right. Oh, for two. Jacked up is, you know, that's the roots of your internet

Starting point is 01:15:36 content. You've got to keep shooting. Got to keep putting up ideas. Yeah. I was thinking the other day, do you think that Smoke Show is the Barstool slash Dave thing most embedded in American lexicon? This guy is so fucking stupid. This guy invented Saturdays for the boys.

Starting point is 01:15:58 Yeah. Or you like, do you want compliments on Saturdays for the boys? Are you fishing? No, like how fucking dumb are you? You think that Smoke Show is bigger than Saturday's are for the boys way bigger? Yes You are out of your fucking no mind wait. No, I don't even like it's not even close Wait, you're saying this because you're self-loathing Depressed no, I'm thinking it because like it's that that's one people say says like people don't still say sad for the boys

Starting point is 01:16:22 People say Saturdays, but people don't still say Saturdays for the boys. Smoke show is just a phrase in American culture. I do understand that, but it's still like few and far between. Did you see Saturdays for the Brothers? No. Patrick Schwarzenegger, there was a billboard, like a video billboard out in California promoting White Lotus. And it said Saturdays are for the Brothers. And it had him on the billboard? Yes. And he's like, it was actually funny to see, I think of Batchelor's

Starting point is 01:16:50 as a pretty big star, I don't know, maybe not, but he was doing like, you know when we see everybody here who gets their first billboard and you go take a picture in front of them, he did like a little video being like, okay, is it on? Okay, okay. Saturdays are for the brothers! Wait, really? Yeah. I didn't know any of that. I also don't think, I think he's a star now. I don't think he was before he wrote this. Yeah, I agree with that.

Starting point is 01:17:10 I actually, I meant to say this in our last discussion. I think that Saturdays are for the boys was probably the most viral internet thing to become a tangible thing on the Internet. Like there was like has Justine landed and like viral things like that. But like it became a brand. Something like a dumb thing that started on Twitter basically and

Starting point is 01:17:37 became a brand and made money. I think Saturdays and For the Boys was probably the first or biggest at the time. I think you're probably right about that. Right. I would like if we're talking about like- Like planking went viral, but it was just like, that's it. If we're talking about like, we're brought in real dollars? Yes.

Starting point is 01:17:51 Yes, probably. I would be surprised if something became bigger than Saturdays to the boys. Yeah, just put the compliments in, all right. You got it. I guess I did. I mean, I hear Smoke Show every now and then, and I hear what you mean that like it's just kind of bully

Starting point is 01:18:06 Because what I'm saying is like people don't even I maybe it may be siders boys the same way Maybe you don't understand where it came from all stuff like I don't know who don't know the like Who I don't think would be a bar so person. Yeah are just like casually like just smoke show. Yeah In that sense I get what you mean. I Always felt that way about like big sexy the, the nickname Big Sexy with Bartolo. Like there was so many people saying that that had no idea that that started with us. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's when you that there is a level of virality when it gets to like, I don't even know where this came from.

Starting point is 01:18:34 It just it just is. And Smoke is probably Smoke Show is for sure up there. But I asked because I was watching an NBA clip and it was like two former NBA players talking like, dude, she was in Smoke Show. And I was like, what the fuck? And those guys up there, they go shh, you know. Yeah, you're on a bar stool, like, at least die hard reader 25 years ago.

Starting point is 01:18:54 Like when Smoke Show started, what the hell is that? Yeah. But the Venn diagram of people who use the word Smoke Show and know what Saturdays are for the boys is probably the same. Yeah, I would say that. I also, speaking of just ideas, I'm just gonna keep throwing them out there. I think that that'd be like a good segment idea is Venn diagrams. Like yesterday I was walking by like John's pizza or whatever and there was no line.

Starting point is 01:19:14 But I was like, it was right at the time of White Lotus. So I was like the Venn diagram of people watching White Lotus and waiting in line for John's pizza. Eating John's pizza. So it'd be good to do like one or two. That's very funny. Really? Cool, thanks. One for three. That needs to be like your Jack Maxx green line thing.

Starting point is 01:19:33 Yeah. You need to do the Venn diagrams. Venn diagrams. Can I just pop another thought question out there? While you're here, babe. The Blue Man group. Yeah. OK.

Starting point is 01:19:41 Of course, yeah. You could have given me a trillion guesses. So they do their show, they take their makeup off, the blue off. Are they stained blue at all the next day? I blew myself. I would imagine that would be a situation that they've figured out. I think probably at the start of the run, it's been probably 30 plus years. It just ended last year or two. I think even at the start of this the run it was probably it's been probably what 30 plus years It just ended like let last what year yeah

Starting point is 01:20:07 I think even like months ago. You just know that when they're putting on their whole blue every night. They're like Sock dude, I Got like are they all bald are they wearing bald caps? I actually have infinite questions Is a blue eyeliner that they're wearing? Like, how do they get to talk? Do you think they ever talk like even backstage? Like, how much is the whole mute thing? How much are there people who are like in character like all the time?

Starting point is 01:20:36 Those guys have hair. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they are. Well, I guess I would have guessed they're bald. Only one interesting. More, you know, like the people aren't asking enough questions about the Blue Man Group. Imagine if the Blue Man Group were like absolute like savage animals like drugs, hookers, fucking rock and roll rock stars. And they're like the blue stays on the whole time. So and then here's another question like they're probably sweating and stuff. How is that not like dripping? They probably have to have a special pain. I bet you the early on ones were a mess.

Starting point is 01:21:06 Yeah. Now they figured out latex, waterproof, yada yada. But I bet in the beginning it was like, there had, yo, there had to be some unbelievably funny, I wish I could be a fly on the wall for early blue man group doubt conversations. Just got off stage, 72 people were in the crowd. My chair is covered in blue.

Starting point is 01:21:31 You've got blue in your eye. This guy, and we're just like, what are we doing here? We should have just done fucking stomp, man, or whatever. They should have just gone to the toilet paper throw as much as I thought they would. I've actually never seen it. What are they doing? My I've never seen either my parents went and my mom had to leave because it was like

Starting point is 01:21:51 There was something where like they hand like paper towels back. Uh-huh And you or maybe it's put toilet paper and she said she got really claustrophobic like this show objectively Like a 30 year run they're just like playing the drums, but they're blue It's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, on stage as mascots throw around toilet paper. Like this sucks. Wow. And they made so much goddamn money. You just never know what's gonna what's gonna hit. I would just love to know the guy who was like, stay the course fellas. I'm telling you one day we're gonna have a 30 year run. What are you fucking talking about? And like how much money do we think they're making though? Like do we think that they're like separate life for each? Oh, I bet. The people who founded it for sure. I mean,

Starting point is 01:22:46 I'm like literally multi-decade show run like all across the country. 50 mil crazy. Yeah. You just got a, it takes a lot of conviction. Oh my God. I saw this guy. I'm not gonna be able to find him. This dude was like, record executives told me that at the age of 30, it was too late to start in the music industry. And to that I say like, watch this and then they cut and he's, it's a black, black light room and he's wearing like a black light, like latex, like onesie and he's singing.

Starting point is 01:23:25 And it was the most insane thing I've ever seen. I thought it was a joke and it's just like, no, this guy was like 30 something years old and decided I'm gonna be this black light snake singer guy. And it was just, I just, where do people get the confidence sometimes? But then it's like them, because of them. Because I looked at them and I was like,

Starting point is 01:23:45 that's the stupidest fucking thing I've ever seen. And now that I'm looking at it, it looks exactly like the Blue Man Group. Yeah. So. We have to be looking up to the Blue Man Group. Turn to the Blue Man Group. Crazy.

Starting point is 01:23:56 This is like my banana thing. Like, obviously I thought I was gonna go viral, take off, and it didn't, but like, maybe if I'd say the course, it would have. Maybe we just kept on doing the banana thing. Yeah. All right, we're gonna get into our interview with Grill Guy, very funny internet personality.

Starting point is 01:24:11 You just saw him on ron.com last week. He popped into the KC Radio studio after chopping it up with him. Former teacher turned internet content creator, kind of the new age American dream of getting into the content game and becoming your own boss and being free to do internet content.

Starting point is 01:24:27 So Kevin Grill Guy on KFC Radio, let's talk to him. Tune into the mini golf finals in Chicago presented by Hey Dude. We did the New York Qualifier. I think I was just outside the cut. We sent over a few people from New York to head into the Chicago office for the finals so you can check out Hey Dude sponsoring the mini golf finals where has that has that happened already? No I think it's... Who do you think is gonna win? Witt won by like 20 strokes. Ken Jack was weird though on that course I mean Ken

Starting point is 01:25:02 Jack was like well we are we had the bad situation where people were cheating for us They were both people showed up and played like the courses like ten times People got there like an hour and a half before us and just played the course a hundred times Jack was was like under par when other people were putting up like eights every hole. Yeah But still, again, I don't know what course they'll end up playing. I guess if they play the pottery, it might be a little different. But Whitney won by like 100 strokes last year. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:25:34 No one was fucking close. Not even Kirk? I think Kirk was 20 strokes behind. Wow. All right, well that need be my pick too. Anyway, Hey Dude is sponsoring it. They have new golf apparel right now. The Wendy and Wally styles with grippy lugged rubber outsoles, golf inspired features and

Starting point is 01:25:52 Hey Dude signature lightweight comfort. They bring effortless style to every swing. It drops in May. So right now go to heydude.com slash golf. You can sign up and be the first to know about the Hey Dude golf drops coming in just about a month. That's heydude.com slash golf. If you're tired of figuring out what's for dinner night after night, especially on those busy weekdays, which is pretty much every day, every day for me is just like, what am I going to eat to stay alive? And anybody who can make that easier and more delicious and more affordable is A-OK in my book. And that's what HelloFresh does. It's easy to find time to eat well when you have 50 wholesome, hassle-free meals to choose from each week that get delivered right to your door.

Starting point is 01:26:27 You don't have to go to the grocery store. You don't have to go shopping. You don't have to know what you're doing. You don't have to have a recipe. It all comes with the recipe card. It all comes pre-packaged ingredients. All you got to do is mix it up and you can have homemade, ready meals. Right now they have the ready-made meals that go from the fridge to your fork in three minutes. It's the same high-quality ingredients it's restaurant worthy flavor, it's everything you expect from HelloFresh but just none of the work and not even they used to limit the work now it's none of the work you just cook it up in three minutes and you're good to go. They have the prep and bake meals that come together with minimal

Starting point is 01:26:56 mess only five minutes of prep so the oven does most of the work for not you. So whether it's the 30 minute meals, the 3 minute meals, the 5 minute meals, HelloFresh has got you covered. Go to HelloFresh.com slash KFC 10 FM. That's 10 free meals. So 10 FM. That's where that comes from. HelloFresh.com slash KFC 10 FM. Get one item per box with an active subscription and 10 free meals, a high protein item. And all of that is at HelloF hello fresh comm slash KFC 10 FM We got the grill guy in the building here. How many people call you girl guy versus Kevin? Aside from my wife everybody basically yeah

Starting point is 01:27:36 Yeah, does your wife hate girl guy? No my wife's cool. That's like yeah She's I go one way or the other like a girl guy or she's like down right yeah no, she like you know it's kind of like a tongue-in-cheek thing. Yeah, they'll start a group chat, and it'll be like yeah Me and grill guy will be there Did he was just saying his dad Identifies as a Japanese man He runs a dojo really yeah, so your dad's doing the kind of Hilaria Baldwin situation. Yeah. Yeah, I was just to say, when Napoleon Dynamite came out,

Starting point is 01:28:13 if there were social clips back then, I would have been inundated with those clips. Yeah. That's your dad. Does your dad kind of resent the fact or does he fall into it? The white dudes who get obsessed with Japanese culture. No, I think he's kind of like, I mean, it's so deep with my dad that like my my he makes all the grandkids call him OG, which is OG son.

Starting point is 01:28:38 Which is grandfather. But wait, to be clear, you were like Irish and Italian? I'm Irish. He's not like. No, no. So when he sees all the guys, he's like watching like manga and anime, he's like, stop with the pervert, stop.

Starting point is 01:28:52 We're doing, this is the genuine culture we like. He's more like a Zen Buddhist. Yeah, yeah, I guess that's really, that's fair game. But he goes to Japan like every year. Yeah, he's like really big into martial arts. He's like a sixth degree goes to Japan like every year. Yeah, he's like really big into martial arts. He's like a six-degree Black belt in Aikido when does when does that start mattering? Perhaps is a black belt? Okay? What does that fucking mean so like you know when you're like a little kid?

Starting point is 01:29:15 They give you all these belts, and you obviously can't do shit. When does it start mattering? I think like well it depends on like what type of Matt like I don't think my dad is like a six degree fighter like I don't yeah right like the craziest people's ass but there's like an I keto Association like of the world that after after your fifth degree you can only get awarded you can't test anymore so yeah he was a what he's been awarded two degrees. By like the grand OG? Yeah. The grand OG. The OG OG. That's funny. Yeah, so he does that.

Starting point is 01:29:51 He has a dojo in his office. It's funny, because the one constant thing in my childhood is my father's office. He's a civil engineer and land surveyor. It's like an industrial park in the suburbs of Chicago. It's like a small little thing. But it slowly turned into a dojo I remember the 90s was like all like land surveyors and like people working and then now it's like small samurai swords Ninja turtle

Starting point is 01:30:21 It's exactly what it is. I doubt it's Ninja Turtle. You ever seen the episode of The Office when they go to Gabe's house? And Gabe is Zach Woods, who's like the tall, goofy guy from Silicon Valley and stuff like that. And he's obsessed with Japanese culture. He has like, oh yeah, he's wearing kimonos all over the place.

Starting point is 01:30:38 And then he has like a bunch of ground up sea urchin. And like that, he puts it in his tea or something. This is supposed to help male fertility and all kinds of shit. Dude, they do have it on lock though, the Japanese. They have a lot of wacky shit, but then you look at everything's so advanced, everything's so healthy, everything's so clean. Look at their subway system.

Starting point is 01:30:59 How do we not have half of that? Yeah. That is like, we have like 10% of it. Well, they had the, the I guess chance to rebuild. I was gonna say. How are we gonna phrase this one? It's hard to. We can't just dig up a city for no reason. To be honest when you look at it it's one of the best things that ever happened to them. Really gave them a chance to you know it's kind of like the first of the year for all Have you seen how and so lucky

Starting point is 01:31:37 You seen how if you pass out drunk in Japan everybody leaves water for you. Oh, yeah, there's like a thing That's funny. I took a class and like There's like a district where that happens Yeah And like a lot of those dudes just like fall asleep on the street in their suits and then go to work the next day. Oh, really? It's like a normal thing. They're just like not super normal, but it's like, oh, yeah. Yeah, it happened.

Starting point is 01:31:52 Yeah. It's like, probably. I studied abroad in Spain, and me and my buddy would kind of do that. Yeah. Sleep on the street? We would sleep on the school front steps. So like the two girls who we knew there

Starting point is 01:32:02 would wake us up on the way into class. Oh, man I used to bartended a place called tavern on third anyone who was in Murray Hill in 2014 yeah, I've been there And there's like a back room and I would bartend clothes and I'd be like drunk So I'm like, I'm not gonna you know, like go home hammered like all the way to Brooklyn. I would just sleep in the bar. Yeah, yeah. Until like nine o'clock, the sun's really bright, and I'm like, all right, I'll get up and go home. I used to do that at the old Millen office.

Starting point is 01:32:30 I've never slept in any Barstool New York offices, but I would sleep in Millen. Really? Not regularly, not regularly by any stretch, but like I'd probably. I wasn't living there, I swear to God, I was not there a lot. I did, I probably did like 10 times.

Starting point is 01:32:43 Lou, we think, lived there for a little while. I think. Well, man, to sleep in the office. Every day in the morning, one morning, I did I probably like ten times Lou we think lived there for a little while I Ever Dave in the morning one morning which feeling like why is there a toothbrush here? Yeah, we've had some squatters Transitioning you know I mean I remember going to work When I was working downtown in the financial district we would like you'd go out stay at somebody's apartment, and then go to work the next day. And like, there was a Brooks Brothers,

Starting point is 01:33:09 and there was a Century 21 right near the office. And you would always be like, three of us like buying shirts. Like, I know what you're doing. Wait, what's Century 21? It's like a clothing, shitty clothing store. I was thinking real estate. Yeah, there's that, or forever, maybe forever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what it is. So you worked like a clothing, shitty clothing store. Oh, I was thinking real estate. Yeah, there's that.

Starting point is 01:33:25 Or forever, maybe forever. Forever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So you worked like a regular job before? In the beginning, yeah, in the beginning I did, yeah. So I was an accountant for a little while. You were a teacher, right? I was a teacher.

Starting point is 01:33:34 Up until twenty-three. Pretty recent, right? Yeah, pretty recent, yeah. Oh, that's actually a decent amount of time now though. I thought it was like- Yeah, it was like, it's been like three, almost four years. Yeah, I like became full, I started doing it full time in October of 21 So like almost almost four years and what were you teaching?

Starting point is 01:33:49 Special ed high school, so I taught like everything like yeah history Science biology. Yeah, I really just bailed on those kids Funny I'm gonna go make funny internet videos, good luck guys. That was like the head basketball coach at a high school. Really? Yeah, it was like a weird conversation to be like, hey I'm leaving because I'm gonna make videos of me breathing really loud.

Starting point is 01:34:12 Yeah, I've seen some comments that are like, he was my teacher. Yeah, yeah, you're right, you're right. Do they, I have a question with teaching, cause I have one friend who pulled, one of the most outrageous moves ever I think Where she went she got her master's in education Obviously all that so she went to school for like seven years to be a teacher Yeah, however long she went and then the very first year. She was a teacher. She's like this sucks

Starting point is 01:34:38 Fuck this. I'm not I'm quit. She changed her career I was like did they never put you in a classroom once in those seven years? Also, have you never been to school? Yeah, like, what did you think you were signing up for? I'm sure it's a little different when you're on the other side of the desk, but you have a general feel for how it goes. Dude, it is crazy the lack of Training but the like abundance of education you have to be a teacher. Yeah, you're not trained So like you're super educated. You know not trained. So you're super educated. You know shit.

Starting point is 01:35:06 Yeah. You're good at Jeopardy. Yeah, exactly. It doesn't mean you can teach. Or basically, you're super liberal. Yeah. That's how us teachers are. But you're not ready to be a teacher until you teach.

Starting point is 01:35:21 I guess it's probably like being a cop. You can go through shit. But you don't know what you're doing until you're fucking actually a rest there are cops listen to this right now Teachers are all together at Simultaneously like I'm like the most underappreciated yada yada and also the biggest assholes Yeah, you know I mean like the people like if you if you say that then I hate your guts Yeah, if you just teach Cuz I mean I'm around two kids and I can't stand it sometimes

Starting point is 01:35:53 30 that I don't own So I can get why it sucks But but the minute that you start saying that and acting like you're you know on the front lines of like war is when I'm like It's like you chose it dude yeah yeah no one's forcing you get drafted into this yeah and you have two full months off where you can do whatever you want so like that's always the big equalizer are we a little underpaid probably okay fine so are a lot of jobs right but you have two full months off to do whatever you want also our day ends at 230 and there's you know

Starting point is 01:36:22 sprinkle in like a Columbus day and spring breaks and shit. You still have spring break as an adult. It's a fucking day days of working 80 school days so my friend's mom was like she was a teacher and she I remember saying once in the car She's like people get asked me why I was a teacher. It's the only big girl job They gave me the summers to go to the beach. Yeah There's nothing cooler like there's two really cool feelings in life I think one is when you first get your license and you like get in the car and you're like dude I'm I can do whatever the fuck yeah and then the other one is when a paycheck comes and you haven't worked in two weeks so you get paid you get 12 months

Starting point is 01:36:59 yeah I know in some school districts you can like stack load it yeah whatever but no in New York It's like you get paid all yeah, but I used to bartend at McFadden's. Oh hell. Yeah, city field nice So I was like I was there for 2015 World Series nice summer job Yeah, which is fun when the McFadden's on 42nd Street. She was It was like do you know you know you used to go there? I was gonna say that must have been the very... Is it still there?

Starting point is 01:37:27 Now. Yeah, I was going to say. It was an MD, city MD during COVID. It must have been the tail end of that and the very beginning you drinking. Very beginning. But I was going to say like that was, we were like 16 and it was like, we're going to New York City, like city bars. Meanwhile, it's like, you know, the most not city bar.

Starting point is 01:37:46 Or it's Bridge and Tunnel to the max. And Calico Jacks was like touching the, it was the Mexican kids bar and the Irish kids bar. They're all by the same company too. And I think they had Turtle Bay also. Irish exit. Have you seen the Instagram account? It's like Fallen Ones or something like that, Fallen. I think you were posted the Turtle Bay one.

Starting point is 01:38:04 Yeah, yeah. It's brand, it's pretty, I think it's like fallen ones or something that fallen. You know something you were supposed to yeah Yeah, yeah, it's brand. It's pretty I think it's like on episode 7 something like fallen heroes fallen ones fallen legends, and they just pay respects to all the New York City bars that that like we're blast yeah and like I Just I really I've said this a million times on the show whether it's music sports this stuff kind of stuff I just think and it's not just age bias, I think it was better back then. You know, and when these guys laid these bars out, I'm like, I just don't hear, maybe I'm old, maybe I don't know, but I don't hear about,

Starting point is 01:38:34 the Continental, do you remember the Continental? $10, five shots. I don't know what it was. It was like turpentine and like bathtub gin and shit, but you put down a $ dollar bill and you got five Shots of alcohol and they were not like green tea. It was like a liquor all those bars like the 13th step Yeah, that other one down the hatch down the wagon that was like that's a whole actual network of network Yeah, but they all had those crazy specials. I remember you like you get a pitcher and like a shot and it was like yeah

Starting point is 01:39:03 like four hours Go on like a Saturday day. I'll have a couple and you're hammered by The best those guys do a good job of like getting you go with the turtle But all these bars were like in my mind at the time were like like I remember thinking Sutton Place Do you remember that spot Sutton Place was like a midtown was like was like two blocks up from Turtle Bay, but it had a rooftop. And I remember thinking like this, I'm in entourage, bro. And then looking back on it, it's like no one over the age of 21 was there.

Starting point is 01:39:35 Yeah, we're at town. Yeah, right. We were like, oh, man. One of our first Barstool meetings ever. Were you at this one, Budokan? I don't believe so, no. Oh, wait, yeah, yeah, yeah. We were at dinner, and then it turned into a club.

Starting point is 01:39:50 And then it turned into a club club, yeah. But it was like, there was two dinners that really stick out. One was Lavo, and one was Budokan. I was at one. No, I was at both of those. Budokan was with Erika, right? Yes. Yes.

Starting point is 01:40:03 OK, I was at that, yes. Because I remember, it was basically No, I was at both of those. Budokan was with Erica, right? Yes. Okay, I was at that, yes. Because I remember, it was basically, what it was was none of us had money, class, or taste at that point. So it was like we- You were like 24 or something. Yeah, and Dave was like Boston gross Dave at the time, not rich Dave, and so it was like,

Starting point is 01:40:20 where do we go for dinner? And like, but Keith kind of was. Keith, the original Barsel New York guy was pretty bougie. So it was like, where are we go for dinner? And like, and but Keith, what kind of was Keith? The original Barsel New York guy was pretty bougie. So it was like, where are we going for dinner? And I think Dave or Erica or somebody picked Budokan. He was like, and I was kind of like, who cares? But then I got there and I was like, oh yeah, this is trash. This is trash masquerading as fancy, you know? But the lava one was really funny because lava actually did have a moment where I think it was like pretty nice or cool but we went at like an eight o'clock reservation or something and we had a table for six for about ten people yeah so we were like

Starting point is 01:40:53 crammed in and it was like as our reservation ended was when it went from restaurant to club and the turnover so it was like we're eating like the fancy it was like a meatball dish writing like a big yeah Yeah, we're eating the meatball and then like all the sudden people like dancing on top of tables And now it's so funny now thinking that like I mean not really us but like, you know Dave is going to whatever restaurant like you can get, you know, a reservation anywhere, anytime. And at that point we're like, yeah, we get so cool too. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. We were in New York. It's like that one video.

Starting point is 01:41:33 I saw a video where it's like your boy that just moved to the city. It's like, all those people are still home. Like we're not home. We're following our dreams. Dude, we're in a big city. They're like two dudes in their underwear, like in a shitty kitchen. But that is, that is, That was like hey, that is it. That is it, man, that is, they are, you're not chasing your dreams,

Starting point is 01:41:52 you're not gonna be anything special. But I really feel for anybody who did stick around, didn't get out, or like, I think that's usually rooted in like you're afraid to do it. Yeah, I'm sure there's a lot of people that were like scared to just like, yeah, I was like living in Philadelphia and I got a job in New York City and I'm like, fuck, New York, like it's scary.

Starting point is 01:42:10 Yeah, yeah. Damn, can I like, I don't even know how to use the subway. Yeah, but I mean, if you can and you didn't, like that sucks because that to me, I've always said I think 22 to 26 was better than 18 to 22. Oh dude, you have money, a place better. You have a place to live. Yeah, do whatever you want. Even having, work sucked, but like, I don't know. There was something to like, we were all miserable together,

Starting point is 01:42:33 happy hour afterwards versus like school. It was almost like too easy. It was a little something to like complain about. I don't know, it was a good time in life. It's kind of like you go through like a rainstorm during the day and then the sun shines a little bit. Yeah, you need like a reason. Beer tastes a little bit better when you're like beer.

Starting point is 01:42:48 But man, I do think about, like, I remember being like that kid wearing khakis and a Brooks Brother shirt that was probably oversized, not fitting me well. And I had a backpack on. And I remember I would switch from like regular shoes, like nice shoes to like sneakers to go out and I must have just looked like such a fucking ass. The people that used to come in is I would work I would work 7 p.m. so I'd like teach all day Friday night I'd bartend 7 p.m. to close so it's like a

Starting point is 01:43:20 24-hour day yeah Jesus Christ but it was fun I was 20 whatever yeah I was like getting drunk my friends were out whether I was out too. I just yeah working But people would be there at like seven o'clock in their suit and it's like dude you're coming in at seven you have time to go home Yeah Live I'm sure you live here. Yeah Get it ripping we use What was the name of that bar? There was a there was a bar? Fuck I can't remember it was somewhere in Midtown.

Starting point is 01:43:48 It was free. For an hour. Really? It was just free. No cover or anything? Maybe a cover, but it was like from 5 to 6. It was really early. And if you weren't one of the first like 50, it was a small spot. So it was like if you're not there and you don't get in,

Starting point is 01:44:04 you're not getting in. the wristbands oh my god Pat O'Brien's had quarter beers for an hour quarter beers it was unbelievable we would get 200 of them and we would just drink we would cover a table like that size and we would just drink them the rest of the night and by like you know it was it was I think it was quarter beers from like five to six or six seven and by like midnight you're drinking like the oldest warmest beer. And then you're like talking to a girl with like old beer. Brown.

Starting point is 01:44:33 The best good old days, man. I can smell that bar. It's a little puke too. Like the beer. It's almost like, if you, if you smell a bar that's too clean, it a bad sign no you that means they bleached it down that means there was like a dead body I saw someone die oh I'm Santa con someone fell down the fucking stairs the bar is working and they died and they confirmed that they were in a coma that's dead it's basically dead I don't know if they are out of the coma or not

Starting point is 01:45:02 like I generally had no idea I had to get interviewed by lawyers and shit fucking we just like drunk fell or like a fighter something No drunk fell we talked about that a lot how many times we should have died like oh, yeah I like falling fighting. I couldn't imagine how many times I like woke up on a couch and had no idea how I got here Yeah, like I have zero recollection. Mm-hmm how my body How my body got here. And I don't know where he is. I don't know where I am. I don't know who that is. I got kidnapped basically.

Starting point is 01:45:30 One time I went and visited my friend at her apartment. Her family moved from a house in Long Beach to an apartment on the boardwalk. You know, like those nice apartments in Long Beach or whatever. And we went out, got fucking hammered,

Starting point is 01:45:46 obliterated, and I woke up to a guy, I was on a couch, and a guy screaming at me like, who are you, why are you here? And I was like, oh shit, oh, and I just started panicking, and I saw my phone on the table, so I just grabbed my phone, and then I like, go down to, I'm like trying to find like oh shit I'm in someone else's apartment

Starting point is 01:46:06 So I go try to find my friend's apartment and I finally find it and I'm knocking on the door And I'm trying to call her on my phone and then the guy comes in He's like what the fuck are you doing and give me my keys and I realized this thing I thought was my phone was keys. I just taking his keys off and I was literally dialing the keys. I was like, why does this phone not work? That phone is keys. So I had to like, I was like, I'm so sorry. And he's like, dude, I'm gonna call the cops.

Starting point is 01:46:36 Yeah, he was gonna say, at this point, you're like breaking and entering. Dude, yeah. So. Those heavy drinking years are like, you know like a movie, it'll be like, almost like Three Stooges-esque, where like someone's just walking and he doesn't see the chaos. He's somehow avoiding Yeah, it was good time you should have died seven times last night

Starting point is 01:47:00 Since slowing down I've been like it's impossible to die Like since slowing down I've been like it's impossible to die I'm like if I didn't fucking die then then I'm never gonna die. I'll never die. Yeah People have this like yes invincibility complex Yeah, and then like and then the you know the minute you'd like try to take care of your health It's like oh you have stage four cancer your dad. Oh, dead. Oh, dude, yes. I know, I had cancer. Oh, that's right. Yeah, you're, yeah. What kind of cancer do you have?

Starting point is 01:47:27 Balls. Balls. Do you have them both still or no? I have one. One. But I was able to have kids afterwards, so meaning I could shoot ropes. So.

Starting point is 01:47:36 We talked about this with Neemesh, but I've since learned that I think my dad lied to my family. Really? Well, because he, my mom wanted six kids. he got testicular cancer after four and then they never had anymore because he can't have kids. Well back then it's like different I'm sure but we're gonna say my dad lied. That really is a very funny thought to think of him being like I gotta tell her I can't. Yeah, like the doc, he's like, whoa, did you say cancer doc? It's like, yeah, nice.

Starting point is 01:48:06 But then, like, then you gotta like, I don't know, fake it or whatever, right? What? Like, the cum. The cum. The cum. Oh yeah, but if I, oh my dad, if he's got jeans like me, he fakin' all the time.

Starting point is 01:48:20 I don't think girls know how much that means. I think girls think that guys have never, I won't say, it sounds like you did it a lot. I've done it like, I've faked cum, if like it's, it has not happened a lot, but it certainly has happened multiple times. For sure. Like in the five to 10 range. Oh wow. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:48:40 Where like either hungover or drunk where I'm just like, it's not gonna happen. And so you just like, just do one of those, and then you're just like, let me take the condom off or whatever? One time I had a girl, it's never been, everyone's like, oh great, and we pretend, or I don't know, maybe they don't know. But I had one girl, we're like, well where'd it go?

Starting point is 01:48:57 And I was like, I was like, and she, I remember it so vividly, it was a blue, like, bed set, and she had the full blue, the flat sheet up like this, and she's like, where is it? And I was like, I don't so vividly, it was a blue bed set. And she had the full blue, the flat sheet up like this. And she's like, where is it? And I was like, I don't. It must be right there. Seriously, where is your cup, dude?

Starting point is 01:49:14 So we would be able to see it on blue. You're right, but it stopped there. I don't smell it here. I'm smelling the whole sheets. I don't smell it at all. I don't smell it coming in one bit. I was watching that Lily Phillips, she's one of those internet porn stars right now her and Bonnie blue are like the two ones in the streets

Starting point is 01:49:31 Yeah, do you see she did a video of like the behind the scenes of her gangbang? I saw you post it. No, I did see her banging like a like a little guy though. She bangs everybody But bro, and this is nothing new we we've all seen gang bang videos before, but these guys were like, she did like a behind the scenes vlog almost of a gang bang. Like an only fish put on OnlyFans? I'm sure, yeah. I didn't see the actual thing, I just saw the preview to it, but you know, 50 guys and half of them are just in their masks. And a lot of them were in ski masks. My favorite though are the guys wearing like the Zorro mask, like the Lone Ranger that you get at like Party City or some shit. And

Starting point is 01:50:13 I just like, it was almost an incomprehensible level of horny. Cause the amount of steps it takes to be like, phone, wallet, keys, gang bang bang ski mask. Get to the spot, wait on line, talk to someone else in a mask, move up the line like you're at the deli counter, and then fuck a stranger in the ass. It's insane. It's insane. But I'm kind of jealous of it. Don't get me wrong, they're deeply miserable, I'm sure.

Starting point is 01:50:43 But there's still something. Freedom. Right? There's some fun about that. Well, you know what? It's like you said when you get the car for the first time, Like don't don't run. They're like deeply miserable. I'm sure but like there's still something on them Right, let's say something about that. Well, you know what? It's like you said when you get the car for the first time saying I can go drive it again There is something about that like when you if you like live on your own Don't have anybody to answer to and you're like I could go to a gangbang right now Nobody will judge or even know Can wake up tomorrow like it never happened?

Starting point is 01:51:03 I don't know how you find that are you they must be in a gangbang group gotta be a culture that we just don't even Know about back. I think she's kind of with the casting call almost that also makes me think that it's pretty fun I think I meet up again. Hey, what's up? I think I saw you last month. It's like having a classic car Yeah, you know it's like 64 to 67 good to see you, bud. Haven't seen you in a while. You haven't been in this Denny's parking lot in a minute. You know?

Starting point is 01:51:32 Somebody was asking her about the order of the guys, and they were kind of like, it's got to suck to be number 50. And she said that a lot of times the last guy will go down on her. God can you imagine? I don't get that. I literally can't. I literally can't. If you do a thousand. Sounds like a few guys. That's tough man. If you do a thousand guys, no way a thousand guys are coming. It's impossible. Cuz like I don't know man. Yeah maybe if there's a fluffer and it's like get him to the end. Yeah that's it's a thousand guys all faking it her holding up a blue sheet Where is it?

Starting point is 01:52:17 Sorry I thought that was enough. There's a sub-cortage bag where all the guys turk off in the cum. I was actually going to ask you earlier in the episode, like, if you keep it clean or what kind of content you do, but I guess we answered that. Oh no, I try to keep it clean, but I think like-

Starting point is 01:52:36 Your content you keep it clean, right? Yeah, because the truth is like, you're balancing, as you guys know, you're balancing like doing stuff that is fully true to you. I know how ridiculous that sounds because I literally make like fart jokes yeah do shit that you think is funny but then also like being conscious of brands yeah it's like I had a deal with I think I told you I won't shout them out now but

Starting point is 01:52:55 I had a deal with like a pretty big brand and they're like I'm it it was your video I fucked him because I said blowjob our president got a blowjob I didn't like make that up. Yeah, and they're like we need to push the deal back like you can't say blowjob I'm like really yeah, I'm like what even a video that had nothing to do with them It's just on my page. I'm like crazy, and I so I told my manager I'm like look I if I start thinking about this then I'm gonna start trying it is It's listen having gone through probably 15 years now of like Missing out on a play a lot of those deals and things that I don't even know I missed out on it probably would have Been smarter to like not talk about gang bangs or something, but also

Starting point is 01:53:36 It's just so much harder. Yeah it's also just like When you start caring about that stuff it just then this then this job becomes a job. Yeah. The whole point of having a job like this is to not give a fuck about anything. Yeah. Then you start caring. Even like I was I was like some sort of shadow ban to some extent recently for the last few years. I'm not getting any followers. So I stopped thinking about it. I did not care about my followers because I like it's not going up or down. So I said whatever I wanted and then recently got unbanned and it started to rip Yeah, and you're ripping now rip now

Starting point is 01:54:07 But but then like I made a video making fun of the the picture on the Dodgers for crying and I lost followers And I was like well now I'm thinking about it because now I know I can gain followers And it was almost nicer when I was not getting a lot back in because I was like fuck I maybe I shouldn't have said that and then I was like yeah, you know what I mean like and it's worried about that shit It's just no fun. Yeah, and it's weird because it's like that is all of my income at this point, you know is right Well, that's partnership. So it's like I kind of have to yeah I kind of have to play the game a little bit and it's like it's fine and whatever so I can say cock and balls You got you got a wife and kids I know if you kids yeah

Starting point is 01:54:41 It's like different thing too when you're you know, it Yeah, and it's like, the shit that I'm, I'm not seeing shit at bars anymore. I'm seeing like normal shit at home. So my day to day is just a little cleaner. Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's, there's certainly a market for that. But it just inherently is a little more boring than like, I watched the guy die at the bar.

Starting point is 01:55:03 Yeah, of course, of course. Versus like, I picked him up at school and there was like Traffic at the pickup line exactly and I even like I know like and as you know You you also balance like what I know is gonna do well And it's like if I just wanted to be the like dad humor guy I'm gonna hate myself, but I'll get a lot of followers, but it's like fuck that. I don't want to fuck Be like a Canadian wrestler and have to get like 50,000 views but I'm like so I try to balance it out I'll do one where I know it's like

Starting point is 01:55:35 corny but shareable do you have a like we used to when we were blogging we had every 40 minutes to an hour you had to put up another blog oh really and it was like a pretty rigid yeah well it was more like if you don't Dave will be mad at you. It wasn't like a quota but it was like this is what we do. It was a quota that. For you guys it was probably worse. Well no I was just gonna say like as far as we knew you got fired if you didn't. Yeah. Like no one ever tested them. Dave did this unbelievable job of like if you were to ask Dave he would be like there are no rules of Barstool. There's no like you never send an email there was never like a list do this and don't do this but it was just so a lot of it's like self-inflicted but

Starting point is 01:56:11 also it was like I'm not testing that guy. Yeah you know it's funny because as someone who's like consumed Barstool for a long time you see the like the people like especially couple years ago it's like this guy's not working or whatever and as a fan you're like dude just write the fucking blog when it's your job it's like it's a little it's a little bit more complicated yeah yeah I'm trying to do my socks Dave by the way yeah do you know why sexy yeah I don't know him yeah he was just like I don't really I don't really work anymore And Dan was like have you written about like the torpedo bats and he was like yeah that never came across my desk He's like what?

Starting point is 01:56:52 Everyone's desk and he was like yeah, I'm just kind of like more like you know he's like in a dojo right now He's more Zen and Dan was like this is your job. It was like And Dan was like, this is your job. And he was like, eugh, I just don't care. I was like, what the fuck is going on? It was as clear cut as it could be of someone's boss telling them they have to work. And he played me like, I don't think I'm going to. It was very office space.

Starting point is 01:57:14 And I don't think you're going to fire me. Yeah, he was like, I just don't care. Tell you what, I'm not going to be here, little bird. It was very Peter from office space. I almost respect it. Yeah. Maybe that will be his new maybe that will be at some point was like I don't know what else I can do Even with Dave it's like

Starting point is 01:57:31 If you were to really challenge it because there have been certain people mincy and the like who do and Dave just goes like I don't know what to do. Yeah, you know never fire Not even that I think he's just like I don't fire people I'm afraid to I don't want on my conscience So it's like you either everyone either fell in line or challenged him to the maximum there was really no yeah Yeah, I try to like get something up every day because it's like you know I also try to think like dude you were sitting in a classroom being like fuck this sucks now Yeah, and now you just get a fucking video up yeah you know it's hard though it's hard man sometimes funny

Starting point is 01:58:08 like every time and like there's times where I don't feel funny you know you're comedian so there's times I'm sure you're trying to write something like fuck I'm not funny and then there's times where you're like writing was it was that like the alter like I mean there were definitely times where I would write a blog like that was a home run and then there were times where I was like dog shit like post garbage contest those are the best we just put up a funny picture and and and they have to write the jokes one of the one of the times I like hadn't posted in a couple days speaking of like students And I'd like knocked out it was like my son was taking a nap and I woke up

Starting point is 01:58:53 I heard him crying and I was like I gotta post something so I just read a comment that said you were my teacher And I just went haha type shit. Yeah Better than oh I swear to God. I was like this is gonna get zero views it got like four million on tik-tok like two Million on Instagram. I'm like, what the fuck? III always with internet Like like that kind of stuff. Yeah, I always felt like I feel like it's like playing for me like playing Basketball or football? Yeah, where I'm like look. I'm a guy and I can help but I don't get what we're doing Like I can do something I can be help but you got I don't know what we're doing

Starting point is 01:59:44 out here. Tell me where to stand and where to put my hands. Cause it is like everything you do, you're like, this might do nothing. This might do like unbelievable. Like I don't shoot it from here. Yeah, it might go in. I don't fucking know, man. Oh dude. The worst is when I am certain that I have a banger. I'm like so fucking certain I'm laughing as I'm editing it. I'm like, and then it just died Re-watch the video that I just laughed at and I'm like, this is so fucking dumb It's such a mind game it's also such a like there is such a

Starting point is 02:00:16 Unfortunately like a formula and like yeah Let's watch in a video and mr. Beast talking about like the first five seconds. I've got to be like this in the first 20 seconds I've got to be like this or you're gonna lose retention, and it's all these right obviously You know what fuck is doing, but I'm like man this sucks dude. Yeah Jack pocket is America's number one lottery app Jack Pocket Jack pocket has all your major lottery games on your phone With easy to just swipe click click, and purchase tickets. Right now they have the Powerball, they have the Mega Millions, they have your state

Starting point is 02:00:49 lotteries, they have scratch off tickets if you're in certain qualifying states. Powerball's up to 54 million. I think they're both at 54 million right now. Yes, Powerball and Mega Millions both at 54. So I will probably be winning both of those. Put 108 million in my bank account. Thank you very much. All you got to do is open up the app. You can scroll through whatever lottery is available in your states. I'm going to go order. I'm going to do Mega Millions.

Starting point is 02:01:13 I'm going to go $5. Quick pick, click, click, confirm. Face ID. Got my ticket. It's as easy as that. Right now, new customers can get a free ticket when you use promo code KFC at checkout. So download Jackpocket, use promo code KFC, get a free Mega Millions free Powerball. One day, someone who uses a free

Starting point is 02:01:33 KFC Rado tickets going to win tens of millions of dollars. And they like a cut, please. Yeah, they have to share. They have to give us at least a million dollars. Jackpocket, America's number one lottery app and the official partner of Barstool Sports. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER. In New York, call 877-8HOPENY or text HOPE and Y. 18 or older, 19 or older in Nebraska,

Starting point is 02:01:52 21 or older in Arizona. Jackpocket is a lottery courier and not affiliated with any state lottery. Eligibility restrictions apply. Void were prohibited. Promo code required for $5 non-withdrawable credit. Terms at jkpt.co. slash draw. Sponsored by Jackpocket.

Starting point is 02:02:03 Based on 2024 iOS download data collected by sensor tower. Popeyes has a new lineup of bold pickle flavored products. That's the pickle glaze bone in and boneless wings the pickle glaze sandwich the pickle lemonade and fried pickles flavors profile flavors profile include dill pickles cayenne pepper and Louisiana herbs and spices only Popeye can put a twist on pickle products with an authentic Cajun flavor. That's a hell of a combo. Pickle plus Cajun and just fry it all up. Just whatever you do put batter and fry it. Just put it in the same vat. Yes sir, put it all in.

Starting point is 02:02:38 Grandpa's new lineup of bold pickle flavored products right now. Try them while they're here. Where my pickle people at? Grandpa's new lineup of bold I was like, I don't want people to know my real name. I'm like, dude, you're not gonna be able to do that. I'm like, I'm not gonna be able to do that. I'm like, I'm not gonna be able to do that. I'm like, I'm not gonna be able to do that. I'm like, I'm not gonna be able to do that. I'm like, I'm not gonna be able to do that. I'm like, I'm not gonna be able to do that.

Starting point is 02:02:55 I'm like, I'm not gonna be able to do that. I'm like, I'm not gonna be able to do that. I'm like, I'm not gonna be able to do that. I'm like, I'm not gonna be able to do that. I'm like, I'm not gonna be able to do that. I'm like, I'm not gonna be able to do that. I'm like, I'm not gonna be able to do that. I'm like, I'm not gonna be able to do that. I'm like, I'm pretty sure. Okay. He is so entertaining, so likable, but I was talking to him I'm like he's like I don't want people to know my real

Starting point is 02:03:08 name. I'm like dude you've got like 500,000 followers across brands. People are gonna figure out who you are, dive the fuck in. At that point. You're never gonna have an opportunity like this again. Yeah especially if I mean you're not doing he's doing food reviews like you're doing anything. Yeah. Controversial. He's not gonna I think we Gotten to the point where like if you wanted to go back into civilian life, you'd be fine We find as long as you're not doing like anything crazy. Yeah, it's okay that you once or reviewed food on Instagram Yeah, I think so. You've got to get over that fear your people screaming like You're fucking name. Yeah, I mean that that gone are those days I saw that that motherfucker

Starting point is 02:03:45 big justice wasn't it big justice right he was trying to say he found the Rizler and like took was taking credit for the Rizler I don't like that the kids the kid was like oh my found Rizler when he had 70,000 followers and I was like I'm gonna make this kid the next big thing and I was like And these guys are talking about millions of 70,000 is like not a lot But it's like that kid was on his way and also the Rizzler is the fucking dude Not you you didn't you're lucky that he was down to ride with you It's like it's like Birdman a little Wayne sort of thing. You know what I mean? Like he's the he's the star Gaz and Alex Cooper sort of thing

Starting point is 02:04:28 Yeah, sure buddy Gaz and Alex Cooper sort of thing How do you feel like it's complicated the whole kids I Don't I don't like I don't like the dad the Rizzo dad I think was here, and he was just like a regular dad I as much as people I heard the other guy though is like he's doing wrestling and he's like wants to be a star There was that behind the scenes videos where he was like barking out orders. Oh, this is weird. This is fucking weird I don't like that at all. Meanwhile, I'm told my kids shut the fuck up Video I'm pretending to be in sync

Starting point is 02:04:58 The amount of times that I said to my kids like the exact phrase I'll be right back I gotta go do a video and they my kids still have no fucking clue what's going on. They do not get it. And every time they do it, like, I also realize, I always say they know me from work. And they took that to mean we work together. And one day my daughter was like, you have so many, she didn't say coworkers, she didn't know that phrase,

Starting point is 02:05:20 but she said something like, you work with a lot of people, or a lot of people work at your same job, or something like that. And I was like like oh, I am confusing this little girl She doesn't know what the fuck's going on and every now and then they'll make are you famous or something like that? And I like something's creeping out, but like they they don't they still don't really know what's going on So I don't even know Nine-seven about to be eight

Starting point is 02:05:40 Yeah, you're I'm at like obviously a few years earlier three almost four and almost two But yeah, my kid just can't stand when someone's talking to me in public The amount like I'll There they want to use my phone to play a game or go on whatever and I'll be like I need I need it back We're second. I gotta like text somebody you know whatever it is And I'm doing the thing that I said I need to do and they'll be Like dad. I like hang on. I'm almost done five more seconds is my dad

Starting point is 02:06:12 Daddy daddy, and I'm like what can I use it like when I'm done I'm gonna end up getting them iPhones because just for that I know like I can already tell him an iPhone without like Service I think I might do that just like you can only have like you can only have the social media My almost two-year-old has like a toy phone that looks exactly like an iPhone doesn't count right no no So it's a it's not even a screen. It's just like there's a dog. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he grabs it, and he's like, hoa.

Starting point is 02:06:51 Hoa. I'm like, I don't even talk on the phone like that. Yeah. So I'm on speaker. My kids will, when they were little kids, we tried to do that. And they are like, it's not, they just want the one that you have. I know.

Starting point is 02:07:02 If I were to switch, they would want the toy. But they know. They fucking know. I like that with themselves too, those fucking maniac I were to switch they would want the toy Yes, but it's it's they they know you know they fucking know to those fucking maniacs So they'll drive you to the point of you don't have kids right now. They'll drive you to right when you're about to jump off Yeah, it's like I'm ready to drive off the bridge with all this in the car They say like one cute thing you're like all right You're uh your posts of your kid getting hit I was like dude that is To the to the core it's like it's the best. That's why I'm so pumped for run I said on his show just like I'm so pumped for him. It's so it's

Starting point is 02:07:41 Twins is Barbaric yeah twinsins shouldn't be allowed. I don't know how we would stop it. I mean, I don't know what to stop it. But it's sickening to do that to first-time parents and young people. But again, it's all you know. So they just like they don't do it.

Starting point is 02:07:55 Yeah, but that's what I was saying earlier. I have a buddy who had one kid and then twins. That's instant suicide. That is instant murder-suicide. Because if you just have your regular life and then you get rocked by either one kid or twins or triplets or whatever, that's all you know. When you're like, I know how to put one baby to bed, feed one baby, play with one baby, and now you just have to do it. Double. And then you also have a two or three year old.

Starting point is 02:08:21 Also, I couldn't imagine if one sickening one starts crying and that's sleep my buddy said he just they never they never go to sleep one one goes to sleep the other one cries that one wakes up you get that one down there I was crying like he just said it's whack-a-mole all night long and then there are people who have like two three four you have like these freaks who have Like I've actually always said I would rather have like sex tuplets because then you get like the internet's help Yeah, somebody like buys you diapers over like pays for your kids education if you just have three you're no No one cares about you. You might as well be a total freak family. You could have a internet show

Starting point is 02:09:01 The Levin us together whatever you do the strain that my marriage went through when we had a newborn and a fucking a toddler because it's just like you're stressed out because the toddler needs you then it's like the baby's going crazy and then like the wife's going crazy and then I'm growing our logic was like get all the bad years out at once and we didn't make it the years got really bad and we didn't make it. The years got really bad. It was too bad.

Starting point is 02:09:28 It's better earlier than hanging on to live until this age anyway. Yeah, like those. It's weird. But there is also the thought of four years, four years, four years, we've been doing this for like 15 years. None of it's good. Chapel Rowland went viral recently.

Starting point is 02:09:46 You saw that quote where she's just like, none of my, no, nobody I know that has kids are happy. Here's the problem is that it's funny to talk about how hard kids are, but everybody I know that has kids is so, at least for me, I love being a father more than anything. Like, but it has good times and bad times. And it doesn't mean I'm not I'm I Wouldn't want it any other way. This is like the life. I wanted to lead at least being like a father

Starting point is 02:10:14 Like you know you can test it It's like a Tuesday when you're doing movie night or whatever and for me It's like my kids like dancing to some fucking troll song or whatever and I'm like this fucking rocks But it's also like anything else is like, people are like well why would you say that if you love it? It's like I don't know, have you watched the way I like root for sports? Yeah, yeah. Like I'm motherfucking the Mets every night

Starting point is 02:10:35 and like I love them more than anything. This is how I roll. And then there's the people who over glamorize it and there are people who, the opposite of that, who are like so negative and it's like yeah when the when times are bad I like talk about like I exaggerate how bad they are yeah times are good I'm probably like overly corny and somewhere in the middle it's great it's all good yeah it's funny how that

Starting point is 02:10:55 happens well I don't know dude I like it is corny if you talk about how happy you are as a parent you know cuz it's like shut the fuck Yeah, nobody like the air. Nobody wants to hear that dude. Yeah No, my wife you and far between when they when they are When they have good moments, you know, imagine doing stand-up and talking about how healthy of a relationship Yeah, there was there there, I mean, it's, it's always a trope that'll exist, I feel like. But if you look back through like our, our generation,

Starting point is 02:11:33 like every show was like wife and husband hate each other. Like the Al Bundy, Peggy, like, I mean, it, that was, that was life. That was just like how I thought it was, you know? We thought dads were Homer Simpson. Yeah. It's like, get fat, get bald, drink beer, be an idiot. Like, all right, dude, sick.

Starting point is 02:11:52 That sounds awesome. Those are our role models, man. My dad's like in a katana. What are you, dad? It was such a recipe to it. Every single show. Malcolm and the Middle. Everybody loves Raymond. I mean, like, 280. King and Queen. It was it was such a recipe to it like every single Middle Like to a tea

Starting point is 02:12:11 Then Mike and Molly was just king and queen I'm sure they posted this because of the Morgan Wallen shit. Did you see I? Reposted over you saw it It was the it was John Travolta hosting in like 96 maybe and it was the ending of the show and he did the like thank you everybody like good night and then the the the cast members were like John we're never gonna like see you again or something like that and he was like whatever at the end they end up just doing like Footloose they just did like a musical

Starting point is 02:12:43 number together. At the end of the show show like the end of the show yeah and they did like shaman la malama la malama dinga da da whatever Greece Greece was yes and but it was like Chris Farley was doing cartwheels and Adam Sandler was like doing this and Phil Hartman was there like it was just a bomb squad of people doing this like Greece number and I was like man that was like I Go back and watch the SNL vault stuff. It's like that's one of those things where it's like a Hundred times better in the yeah, I'm sorry. It was just so funny, and it's probably still funny for the younger people now I don't know though. I I I sometimes look back on that and it's like like I don't know if Adam Sandler being like

Starting point is 02:13:38 I don't know if like a young kid is like but but that that I don't know I think it's just like what you do when you're I mean I'm basically middle-aged it's like I watch SNL vault I watch like 80s and 90s wrestling yeah that's what I watch and so it's like yeah I'm a huge wrestling fan people like oh you're watching raw I'm like no dude I just I watch raw March 19th like 94 I watched that last night. Did you see what Hulk Hogan made for his ex-wife? No I didn't watch the whole thing. That was a brutal bro. She bas bashed him. She made a video like full breakdown like Sobbing and she had just done Botox that went bad And she explained that so it was like this is just

Starting point is 02:14:14 She was like my marriage was terrible. The only thing worse than that was my divorce My my kid like as has were estranged she got married and had twins and I didn't know it. Like, wait, who got married? Not to her son, her daughter. Oh, Brooke Hogan, like cut her out of life and like. And so she just like sobbing uncontrollably and a total mess. And then the Hulkster with his new wife was like, let me tell you something. Well, basically, he just stitched it and it was just they just had popcorn and

Starting point is 02:14:48 were eating it while like the top half or the other half of the video was her like sobbing. And I was like, holy shit. And then, you know, like you get some more details, like as soon as they got divorced, she started fucking her son's 19 year old friend. And in the divorce, she got like 70% of all assets and like all these things that I'm sure Hulk Hogan's like fuck this woman. Yeah he went broke. The reason why he got money again was that Gawker lawsuit. Yeah cuz he was able to sue them right? Yeah. He sued them and settled for like another 10 million and then like that brought him back up. Isn't Affleck playing him in that movie?

Starting point is 02:15:24 What? They're doing a Gawker movie. Pass it on to Google. I'm 99% sure Affleck's playing Hogan. I want to see that. That's one that I can't picture. No, but I want to see it. They have a way of doing the, you know,

Starting point is 02:15:37 like I feel like these days like. Imagine it's Hulk Hogan with a Boston accent. It's like a mix between the town and Hulk Hogan. I gotta tell you something. Developing a Hulk Hogan movie. I'm pretty sure he'll play. Dude, that is so funny. Who else would play Hulk Hogan?

Starting point is 02:15:59 Who would play Hulk Hogan? He got 31 million. I remember hearing it and then having the million. I remember hearing it and then being having the same reaction We all had of being like Aflac playing Hogan, but then having the reaction of well Aflac's a big dude. Yeah, he's like six five. I'm thinking more like the Is he really six five? I think he's something like that. He's a big dude Imagine the you know the meme of him like smoking a cigarette. Yeah, doing that in Hulk Hogan I mean that that is a

Starting point is 02:16:29 Cast is not like is circling the role of Hogan. Yeah Wow Wow I feel like I Don't I mean if I'm I don't want a Hulk Hogan movie about the Gawker scandal No, it's like shows his fucking but I'm sure it'll be like you'll have you'll have to give cuz that's that's I'm flying high from this Dude it's so sick that I like What it does to you when you first start it like I one time I've never shit my pants Like I was I remember I was like I popped one in and I was like throwing the ball to my dog like I drive into a field and I'm getting in the car

Starting point is 02:17:09 and I'm like oh do I'm gonna shit and the act of like getting into the seat I like started to shit but then landing it like reverse yeah I like I dude I just reverse shit my pants. I was like shit your stomach. I just shit my lower intestines. I shit my colon. I shit my colon. I was like wait did I like that? I think I'm gay dude. I was fucking awesome dude.

Starting point is 02:17:34 I was like trying to shit it out and get it back again. Dude I like that. I reverse shit. Oh hang on that felt pretty good. I was like these things rock dude. Fucking pop two more. You go home you're telling your buddies about you. I came I came from my ass. I came I pretty sure I came shit from my ass and I reverse come. I reverse come my ass. Wait when you had cancer did you almost die? Was it like bad or just like you had to give it a nut. It's a funny story like the first off my doctor who's the best you can Google me is the best doctor like

Starting point is 02:18:05 For this best surgeon for this For testicular cancer. His name is dr. Joel Sheinfeld at Yeah, I want either one tell her a Sheinfeld Can you Google him actually Google Joel Sheinfeld or dr. Joel Sheinfeld? That's can Pabs can't Google like Joe Schmidt. S-H-I-E-I-N-Feldt. Yes, okay. Now look at the picture.

Starting point is 02:18:36 Just first person that comes to mind what he looks like. Images. That's a... He was older now. That guy right in the glasses right down a little Larry Larry David Dr. Sheinfeld is a spitting image of Larry David and like if you go down a little bit the one that was in a suit like The second one yeah right there Oh, dude, I walked in and I swear to God. He like puts his feet on the desk He's like cracks a diet coke, and he like, all right. Well, you're not gonna die. So

Starting point is 02:19:10 Let's start there. That's great Cool, dude. All right, great, but the whole time I'm like laughing Whatever go through it all did like the whole chemo the chemo was was kind of rough. You're like, you're kind of on the edge I'll show Four months, so it was it was kind of rough, but um how old are you I was 30? What 30 how the fuck I don't know how to use a new iPhone I was 30 31 it's like Yes, there's two types of There's two types of shit.

Starting point is 02:19:45 Whoa, I didn't know that. There's two types of ones that you get. You get like, when you're younger, you get the kind that's a little more aggressive. And then when you're older, you get like this is me. You just got old balls. Whoa! I don't know if you can see that.

Starting point is 02:20:02 I got to be honest, that's the worst picture I've ever seen. I used to like take pictures like that and some of my friends be like she most fun Maybe like tried they'd be like are you okay? You didn't like in your room for four. You're clearly reaching out with this Are you were you married and shit at that point? I was engaged so no kids no kids Yeah, it was cool. You know my wife was there, but at the end of chemo is like my last thing. I was like, okay. I was like talking about oncologists who works with the surgeon. And I was like, is nobody talking about how Sheinfeld

Starting point is 02:20:34 is a spitting image of Larry David? And he's like, no, yeah, that's all we ever talk about. And he actually is Larry David. Oh, like, okay. Like I remember walking into my surgery, I have to list it before I walked into my surgery. I was like, I mean, I'm getting my nut out. It's like the worst day of my life I'm freaking out and he's like sitting like this scrolling

Starting point is 02:20:53 Good sign though at first it was like I don't know my guy like like it's a big deal to him I do this all day It's like 1130 we're taking it out and then I'm eating dim sum Yeah, it was like 1130. We're taking a nut out, and then I'm eating dim sum I I mean can't can't say until I'm ever in the situation. I don't think I would feel away about losing my nut I don't if I lost like all of them like Like if you have yeah, but it's like if you tell me it's alright and Everything else is gonna be normal So does it does it do something to your breaks? I can see it like I can see me saying that right now

Starting point is 02:21:29 yeah, but then I can see losing a nut and Having it like really like your like definition of like manhood masculinity and stuff like that for me It's more like also just like losing part of your body. Yeah, like imagine just losing your pinky You're like, oh fuck. I'm never gonna have this again. Like right's kind of freaky and then like they do with the ball. Yeah, give it to you question No, but they asked if if I wanted a like a fake one. Oh you and no the one in there I'm like no, did I want the full bat wing? Still hangs left. Yeah, really very weird. Yeah Still on the left side and the right side is just skin

Starting point is 02:22:11 Like a fat guy lost 120 Blown bubbles with it The ultimate bubble gum now, oh dude, yeah full fist of walking I do the ultimate bubble gum now. Oh, dude. Yeah full fist walking I'm pretty sure that what gave me cancer is I used to do the brain a lot Yeah, and I squeezed it on my party chick was like look how far and get my nuts from my body That was like my party. Yeah, I think that gave me cancer It's like we're too awesome It's like we're too awesome. You can't say it's worth it.

Starting point is 02:22:44 When you're like 19, I'd be like, dude, fuck. I'd be like, at a party, I'd be like, bro, come here, fuck. And it'd be like, of course, the macho kid that you know is going to get pissed off for looking at nuts. I'd be like, bro, I got to talk to you. I'd pull in a corner, and I'd take my nuts out. And I'd just pull them.

Starting point is 02:22:59 I'd be like, dude, I'm pretty sure. I'd start saying, someone grab this girl's ass. We got to watch. And they'd be like, dude, really'm pretty sure I'm like start saying someone grabbed this girl's ass. We gotta like what they'd be like, dude You get it from your body far dude If you're listening he's pulling his hand way from his from his sack at least like I can have balls No, no, I think I just like But um, yeah, I don't know a

Starting point is 02:23:33 part of me would think that like I don't want like a foreign object in there that might like get infected or something but kind of a cool thought to be like I have a There was a fight a nut or something was like a rubber ball or some shit. It's a little silicone thing. Yeah, like you basically got like breast implants in your nuts. Yeah, I got a nut job. My wife was like, you're not getting that. And I'm like, well, don't you think it's gonna look weird? She's like, your balls are already gross. Yeah, tough man. Those are tough.

Starting point is 02:24:04 They're there. I think balls get a bad rap. Yeah, balls are tough, man. Balls are tough. I think balls get a bad rap. I think balls are the boobs of the penis. Yeah, it's not the main thing, but they're fun to pop around a little bit. Balls are the boobs of the penis. I'm a child I'm like smiling so hard from that phrase that is so fucking fun balls the boobs That's like that's like you just like did like a madman Campaign yeah, I was like we need to rebrand balls. You're like how about this the boobs of the car Like that I feel like balls are are pretty gross But every now and then you'll catch a girl who appreciates yeah and like and like you can tell that them saying that they

Starting point is 02:24:55 feel like a real whore yeah like you think you're a freak you're not are you a freak that will admit you like balls slapping your Clint because you probably won't say that but the girls are doing it's like yeah You're really you know the ones that are like trying to be really cool. They're like no. I like balls No, I suck by sort of guys like The weird thing is like now Like it you lose a little feeling in the skin of the ball just cuz like you lose They like sever you know there that skin was already doesn't have a lot of yeah

Starting point is 02:25:24 You can you can run over that with a car and nothing's gonna and once in a while you like when you're Manscaping you get like a little prick. Yeah, I don't get those pricks anymore. So You're bleeding out again like Homer Simpson with all the like Fuck I'm bleeding and and like you're good now I mean, you know always in remission or is that like a yeah That's one that you can really count on like you're probably not come back. Yeah, I'm hoping that because if I get it again It's the other ball No, it's good I went back for scans for five years and then after five years they kind of you're good Yeah, they'll let you go, but I'm still want to get the scans. I'm like I would keep going. Yeah, but they I

Starting point is 02:26:03 Always think it's funny with those scans when it's like, when you're like 50, you should get a colonoscopy. It's like 48. I'm not worried about cancer in my ass. All of a sudden, 50? Yeah, I feel like we should just probably be getting them done. There's companies now where you can pay like 1,000 bucks to get a full body.

Starting point is 02:26:20 It's worth it for an investment. That's tough too, though. I don't want to know. Rather just fester. Unless I though. It's like I don't want to know yeah Rather just fester unless I really got to know I don't want to know yeah Yeah, you know just I know it's it's a scary thought cuz then you just like obviously now I'm a little like think about all the times you were hungover or like when I'm hungover I turn and I think I'm having strokes like what I'm really over. Yeah Yeah, so imagine like you're going through that but then the one time it actually did like you're telling yourself dude

Starting point is 02:26:49 I'm just hungover. There's no way this is Feel something yeah, so it's like imagine and then it's real yeah, yeah now every time you get when you're like well get when you're like well. I probably am having a brain aneurysm. That does suck. It's an uphill battle obviously. What's the origin of the name grill guy? Was your first video you like doing grilling? Yeah so it's a funny story. I'll be the judge of that. This is a really funny way to hear this. This is so funny guys. Call in Wait till you hear this It's really good It's the dumbest story ever Basically I was teaching and I had a friend that worked at doing things media and he's like hey man we're developing the show for

Starting point is 02:27:38 millennial dad grilling show and he's like you know we have this rad dad page, it's middle class fancy it'd be attached to that so he's like do you want to we have this rad dad page is middle-class fancy. It'd be like attached to that So he's like do you want to do it? I'm like, dude, I teach he's like, yeah But you know if you do this, maybe it change your life. Yeah change your life. Like this is a cool opportunity I'm like, alright, I'll do it. It's right when my son was born. So I was like on paternity leave and So I took over the page that was supposed to be tied for the show

Starting point is 02:28:02 So like my name wasn't supposed to be girl guys supposed to be Kevin who does this show that's called grill guy. But then it eventually just turned into like, you know, I was really bad at grilling and trying to be funny. Like, you know, I didn't know what the fuck I was doing. It was like really bad content. If you scroll back, it's still up there. If you scroll back, I'm like, I'm cooking a burger. And then I eventually just started doing like skits and I was like, you know, let me just like make fun of my wife or something. Work for everybody loves Raymond. Yeah. But, but you were, when you were doing those, you were in front of a grill or the bench. For some of it. Yeah. Like some of my old videos, I'm like in front of a grill? Or the bench in the grill just? For some of it, yeah.

Starting point is 02:28:45 Some of my old videos, I'm in front of a grill, and I'm trying to talk quietly, because I don't want my neighbors to hear. And then it's like, they would tag my personal account, and I'd be like, no, no, no. I'm a teacher. You can't. And then finally, I was like, if I'm going to do this,

Starting point is 02:28:58 let's just fucking give it a college try. And go back to teaching. And you just bailed on that whole school, huh? Fuck those kids I actually coached basketball at a like a pretty big high school in New Jersey I was like the head basketball coach and then people in the crowd started like Coming like I saw your videos man. Yeah That would be cool. I don't know I would like to try to keep the coaching going. I loved it. I feel like that would be cool. I don't know. I would like to try to keep the coaching going. I loved it I did like yeah

Starting point is 02:29:26 Not to shamelessly plug but now I have the podcast with me Yeah, so like I'm talking about basketball still right so that was like a big part of like yeah How'd you link up with him? He I just DM'd him really oh, I thought you guys were like friends No, I DM'd him like four years ago and was like hey, dude Do this YouTube I was doing like a YouTube show and I was like do this YouTube show with me I was like and I this YouTube show with me. I was like, and I'll help you with your content if you want for free.

Starting point is 02:29:47 And he's like, all right, cool, come meet me for lunch. And then like I went down, it was when he was in Philly. And he's just fucking funny. He's like a dude, he would sit here and talk about dicks. He's like, hilarious. There's not like a lot of bros I feel like in the NBA. It's more of like a NFL thing. But he is a pure bro in the best way.

Starting point is 02:30:05 So we just hit it off and then, yeah, we're more, we talked. We're like, let's fuck. So you got that pod. You got your Instagram page. I'm sure tick tock as well, but it's like, those are the two things like, yeah, the pod is, is not making money. Yeah. We were talking about it. It's fucking hard, man. I mean, it's, we got like a, I have like add on deals. Like I have a deal with a sports book and they bought a little bit of the pod. So it's got something coming in. Yeah, yeah, you kind of bundle it together

Starting point is 02:30:28 with what's successful. But it's just so annoying. It's like, why does it work over here and not over there? It's like, can you motherfuckers just all follow the same shit on? It's like totally different than what I normally do. I'm doing a 30 second like character making fun of someone at an omelet station is very different than. what do you think about the Spurs by the way speaking

Starting point is 02:30:52 of ball you see that game last night with the Nuggets 60 he's like trying so hard to steal MVP right from I think he should I mean yeah I think I think he should win it those numbers are better his numbers from. I think he should. I mean, yeah, I think I think he should win it. His numbers are better. His numbers are like, I think much better. Like the problem is, is that like SGA scoring a lot in a in a scoring era where like, like everybody's already said, like scoring 30 back then was so much harder than scoring 30. Now, I think that, you know, the thunder being good, like the best team is really helping him, but like You'd be No debate if you said right now. Who do you want? Nobody is taking SGA over to Jokic nobody

Starting point is 02:31:32 I think the one thing helping him like you said is that he's he's on the best team and he's also The leading scorer so if he was scoring more than Jokic, but wasn't leading the league Yeah, be like now give us a how much is he scoring like? 32 30 almost 33 I like I but also To beat yokich you got to have like a Jordan year where you're putting up like 37 again Yeah, like to beat up to beat a Diesel triple double like I think like because he won two of the last last but that is bullshit I know that is not like that's not how it should be

Starting point is 02:32:06 And also he's just like yokich just doesn't give a fuck. Yeah Can't wait to get home to ride my Your Andre the giant I don't know why but there is something so cool about that with like someone so good and they also don't Don't care like like because caring is the lamest Caring is inherently cool kept good at it with golf. I think that's kind of gone away now There was I forget there was someone else but it's just like that's so badass You know you like wait I remember when I like playing hockey growing up and like the bit one of the best players I ever seen hated hockey really hated it and like like to the point like after his last college game

Starting point is 02:32:48 He threw skates away in the trash and was like I just I just didn't ever play scholarship No, he's like I don't enjoy this fun for me. I'm like dude. I would give anything for your talent Right, and you fucking just don't even want it It's always the way man. It's so annoying. Yeah yeah. And it's funny because you say Koepke, it's like not only did he not like golf, it seemed like he just hated everybody on tour. Yeah. These guys are dudes.

Starting point is 02:33:11 He hates his whole industry. Yeah, yeah. Koepke actually went too far with it, where it was like, OK. Well, I mean, come on. You have to like it a little bit. You're making millions of dollars. He's doing press conferences like, I don't even think we should play golf.

Starting point is 02:33:21 We should ban it. And you're like, well, come on, dude. Yeah. It's so funny, I know. All right, well. Alright well good shit man happy to hear that things are going well keep it up dude. Yeah thank you so much for having me you guys are I gotta give you your flowers you've been doing this a long time you're the OG's of this. Thanks man. The Chuck Liddells of this whole game. No you know what I'm the Ron Narousey. Okay okay like I had a really really really good run but now you're still the kind of king but You know what? I'm the Ron DeRouze. Okay. Okay. Like, like Had a really, really, really good run.

Starting point is 02:33:46 And now you're still the kind of the king. No, no, no, no, no, no. We were good when nobody was doing it. And then all the really talented people showed up and are just better. Yeah. And it's like, you're still going to be known as the goats. Throw some opportunities, you know, whatever.

Starting point is 02:34:01 But it's like, once every like really charismatic NBA player and all the funniest comedians and all these amazing business people all started podcast we were We are the plumbers that people talk about. That Jordan was playing against. We're the plumbers. Thank you though man. Appreciate it. Keep doing your thing bro. Thank you very much guys. Oh that was fun. So I'm going to be using a Thanks for watching!

KFC Radio - We React to White Lotus S3 Finale + Grill Guy Interview

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.