Khloé in Wonder Land - Paige DeSorbo | Khloé in Wonder Land

Episode Date: September 30, 2026

Season 4 of Khloé in Wonder Land is here! Khloé sits down with Giggly Squad co-host and fashion entrepreneur Paige DeSorbo for the ultimate girls’ chat. They get into dating, motherhood, ...freezing her eggs, Botox disasters, family, cats, canceling plans, reality TV and all the completely unimportant things they have very strong opinions about. It’s funny, unfiltered, and basically two new best friends getting to know each other in real time.New episodes every Wednesday. Like and subscribe so you never miss an episode.Khloé in Wonder Land is produced by OpenMind, a PAVE Studios’ company, and is distributed by Dear Media.Episode Sponsors:Ready to reach your goals? Visit https://www.ForHers.com/khloe to get personalized, affordable care that gets you.Start your free trial at https://www.Shopify.com/khloe If you have an iPhone head to https://www.ladder.fit/KHLOE and take a quick quiz to find your perfect Ladder plan. Use my link and get a free 7-day trial with NO credit card, and $10 off your first month if you join.Explore my Hungryroot Digital Cookbook "Khloé in Wonder Land" at https://www.hungryroot.com/KHLOE Go to https://www.armra.com/KHLOE or enter KHLOE to get 30% off your first subscription order. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome back to a new season of Chloe in Wonderland. I am so excited that I get to kick off my premiere episode with Paige DeSorbo. If you guys don't know who she is, she is a fashion girlie. She's an entrepreneur. She's a cat mama. She has her own podcast, The Giggly Squad, and she is just going to be your ultimate best friend. She is that girl. She is just my BFF at this point. She really is. And we are talking about everything. just silly and lighthearted and fun. And when I tell you, I have been hysterically laughing this entire episode. I mean it. And I know you guys will too. And I cannot wait for you guys to tune in. First episode, new season of Chloe and Wonderland. Make sure you guys like and subscribe on YouTube
Starting point is 00:00:48 or wherever you get your podcast so you don't miss any episodes. It is a big deal. It is a usable episode, by the way. Is it? Okay. I'm so excited. for this. I feel like you don't get that we really are best friends. No. Okay, do you want to know what solidified it for me? Tell me. Last night, I'm getting a spray tan. Jenny. Yes. Stop. Yes. I go, oh my God, I'm going, I'm doing Chloe's podcast tomorrow. She goes, she's the best. Ah. And can I tell you? And I'm not, I feel like I did the same thing when I did Morgan Stewart's podcast. I'm not just like gassing you up because I'm sitting here. I've never heard a bad thing about you. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:01:50 In any, like, work situation. Everyone always speaks so highly of you. No one read my comments, but that's really sweet. No, and I think it's like so important in like the work area. Like everyone always says you meet every production person. You remember things about them. And I'm like, that's so nice. It is so nice.
Starting point is 00:02:10 And I'm a big believer in that. Like word travels fast. I don't care how big people want to say Hollywood is. So true. It's small. And it travels fast. Same people. see going up, you're going to see going down, and we all have to do both. Right. And I feel like
Starting point is 00:02:23 I, like, started out as someone's assistant. And I feel like, same. Now I see, I'm like, oh my God, we were assistants together. But now you're in charge. I'm so proud of you. And it's like, if I was mean to that person 10 years ago, she could be like, fuck me now. Yeah. Hello. No, it's so true. Do you know Simon Huck? Yes. Simon and I were both assistants many moons ago. Yeah. And we're both so fucking fabulous now. So he's so nice. He's the best. I love him. I met him when I did like those little videos with Courtney. Oh, yes. Yeah, yeah. Duh. I forget you did that. Yeah. I'm like, I'm just pretending that I know you met Kendall before me, but I'm still just fantasizing. It's me and you. No, I think it is. It is. I feel like we just make more sense. Yeah, we do. And also I'm like, obviously in the OG Kardashian stand, you've always been the funniest. You know, like I love the other girls. But you have the humor.
Starting point is 00:03:19 Without me, what are they doing? No, you and Rob, the funniest. No, Rob is the best. And he just says the craziest shit. Is he ever going to come back to the show? I hope so. He goes back and forth. Yeah, I really hope so.
Starting point is 00:03:32 I think we need more masculine energy. No, his humor is, it's different. Yeah. Like, you need it for, because it's like so much girly humor, which obviously I love. But sometimes, like, when my brother will say something, I'm like, yeah, that's so much funnier, but I feel like I can't laugh. How many brothers do you have? I just have one older brother.
Starting point is 00:03:50 Yeah, the best. Yeah, it really is. I love having a brother. Do you have any sisters? I don't. So it's just you and him? Just me and him. Okay, so I only have boy and a girl, True and Tatum, and all Trudah, she wants a sister.
Starting point is 00:04:05 Yeah. And I have one in the freezer. She's on ice. But I just don't know. I think girls need a sister, but am I just programmed to think that? I want you to have another baby. Thank you for helping me with this decision. I'm like that you didn't make it easier. I love having a brother and I think, I think being close with your siblings is honestly like a testament to your parents.
Starting point is 00:04:32 Yes. Because I know a lot of siblings who like don't even speak and I'm like hate each other. Yeah, I couldn't imagine. I do feel like I'm closer to my brother than some sisters are. And I think it's like truly how you're like nature versus nurture. You know, like some kids might just like not get along. There are times. But I do agree. The parents, like you have to encourage that and sort of push them to get that bond because it's not going to happen organically at first. Growing up, like if me and my brother were ever fighting, I'm not going to say the people's last name, but you would always say you're acting like the so-and-sos and that's not who we are. You love your sibling. That's the only person going to look out for you.
Starting point is 00:05:12 I say the same thing. And now as an adult, of course, I love my girlfriends. But at the end of the day, once my parents aren't here anymore, I'm like, yeah, my brother is really the only one who I think genuinely has my back forever. Yeah. And there's nothing like that. Yeah. And we've, me and my Kardashian siblings have lost our dad. Right.
Starting point is 00:05:35 And I think we learn that at such a young age. Like no one just even gets this. Right. Like we do. And that losing our dad definitely made us closer together. which is also a beautiful thing. Yeah. Because it does tear some people apart, but I...
Starting point is 00:05:51 There are times, though, that I long for a sister. Yeah. You know, like I... No, I get it. Like, there are times where I'm going somewhere and I'm, like, if my girlfriend can't come, I'm like, oh, if I had a sister, she would. Oh, the trouble sisters get into? I'm sure Rob is like, I wish I had a fucking brother. You guys are all nuts.
Starting point is 00:06:07 But I think that's why he falls in love with our significant others so much and so easily. But, oh, my gosh, the things that if these walls... could talk with me and my sisters. It's sometimes good and sometimes we get into more trouble because you have that BFF to do shady shit with that's going to take it to the grave. I have a list like in my phone of I've had it since I was like 20 of things I wanted in a guy. Okay. In a future husband. The top on the list is has to get along with my brother. Yes. And I one time was dating this guy and I don't know. I was like home for like Thanksgiving or Christmas or something and my brother looked at me and he just goes, please don't
Starting point is 00:06:46 do this to me. No, no. He goes, think about like when we have kids. We won't be able to go on vacation together. But that's true. Yeah. If you don't get along with my siblings, right. You're sort of out of here. Yeah, because I'm like, well, then you don't think they're funny. Right. You don't think we're fucking amazing. And my brother's fiance, I feel like. Would you like her? Love. She doesn't have a sister. That's special. I don't have a sister. The other day I went to FaceTime her. She's a teacher. And she just started. school and so I went to facetime her and she was at my mom's house and I was like oh my god I was just calling to check in on my sister like they just got engaged like your new sister yeah so I feel like
Starting point is 00:07:28 I'm true can still have that yeah she can yeah without the freezer baby okay so what I need to ask you about so I do have two cats yes true has their Russian blues I've never had a cat before these cats So now True is dying for another cat. She wants a rag doll, which I know is Daphne. How are they? They're the best. That's what I read. They're like puppies.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Yes, they are the best for kids too. My cousin has three little kids and they do whatever they want to this cat. And also rag dolls sleep 22 hours of the day. Love it. I need that. So like even if your children are. playing with the cat, she's asleep. Yeah. In a coma, it doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:08:16 She's like, do whatever you want. The only thing with rag dolls is, and I feel like you're similar to me and like I like a clean home. The hair. It's everywhere. So that's what I was thinking about. Like I had to buy a secondary Dyson to put in another room because I'm like, I can't, I can't do this.
Starting point is 00:08:35 So that or I feel like a British short hair because they don't have a rag doll short hair. No, they don't have a rag doll short hair. Breeder. I feel like I'm asking you very specific questions. I don't know any of these answers. But no, I know they don't have short hair. And the British short hairs, though, I think they're cute, but are they like nice? I don't know. Kylie has six or seven of them. No, not even joking. Wait, and how many dogs does she have? Well, she used to have, I think, like 13. No. And then RIP to Norman. So how is she vacuuming? How is she doing that? She's not vacuuming. And like, are we okay? Kylie Lipkit Jenner is not vacuuming. But how does she live with that? Like, it must annoy her. Does she ever say?
Starting point is 00:09:23 No. Kylie is like in a different land of happiness and princesses. And like lollipops and rainbows. Yeah. And I love that. And I think the hair is like, ooh, a cloud. Like she like loves it cute. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:35 So I think in her trauma of Normie's passing, she bought about six, maybe seven. I will say once you have one, You're like, I need another time. I have two. And I'm like, what is happening to me? I've never even had a cat. And now I need to have, like I'm getting a third for Christmas? What's going on?
Starting point is 00:09:52 I never had a cat either. I had like, but also I don't want to say I had dogs growing up because I had poodles. You know, it's not like I had like German shepherds running around. They're not real dogs. Right. So they are similar to cats. And also, I feel like cats are very spiritual. They are.
Starting point is 00:10:12 And also they say that white cats are extra spiritual. Oh, I didn't hear this. I don't know why. But there is something like when your cat comes and like actively looks for you in the house and wants to like lay on your chest. I'm like, it's over. Yeah. But do you think they know bad energy? I think cats, yes.
Starting point is 00:10:36 And more so than dogs. Like I feel like dogs after a certain time, it's like if you have a cheeseburger, yeah, they're going. I'm going to love you. They love you. We're like my cat has known my boyfriend now for over a year and she's still like assessing. Mm-hmm. You know? They are.
Starting point is 00:10:51 They're very territorial. I went as far as getting a cat psychic. No. Because my boyfriend has a dog. Okay. And I'm like, I need to know what Daphne thinks about the dog. And I mean, the cat psychic could have been saying anything. Like did she know your boyfriend had a dog?
Starting point is 00:11:06 I told. I did tell. Why did you do that? I know I should enough. But the way she answered, I believe it was real. No, we believe it. Because she said Daphne finds this dog to be temporary. Like the dog is not.
Starting point is 00:11:23 We're getting rid of the dog. Yeah, the dog is not going to be here forever. And I'm like, well, the dog is actually older than Daphne. So I'm like, no, she knew. And then she said that. Don't put them in a room together. She said the dog is like always trying to be friends with Daphne. And Daphne will say to the dog verbatim.
Starting point is 00:11:40 in her head, get a life. Yep. And I'm like, no, that's my cat and that psychic was right. Yeah. So anyway. Sounds like Daphne. Are you down any rabbit holes? Ooh, like on TikTok?
Starting point is 00:11:51 Yeah, anything. I love a rabbit hole. Like sometimes I put in the search bar current rabbit holes just to see. And you just go? I just go. Like conspiracy theories or just like hobbies? No. Hobbies.
Starting point is 00:12:06 I don't even know what that means. But conspiracies or like I. somehow, like on one of the things was like, Anne Marie's divorce. And I'm like, cool. I don't know who Anne Marie is. But I'm now on a 23 TikTok story of her divorce. And I was so into it. Who is she? She was a girl that was married to another girl who was then having sex with their mutual best friend. I saw this. Yeah. Okay. I saw this. See? Okay. And it was like a whole. She's at like 20 parts. Yes. She's trying to gaslight her that this isn't happening, trying to like, it was the whole thing. But I was really into it. I recently just saw and tell me what you think. It was like Gen Z. What do you think about Gen Z?
Starting point is 00:12:52 I can't even talk about it. It's like really dark and just like, can we get our shit together a little bit? Just a smidge. Okay. So there's a debate that Gen Z had like put forth. If you go to a job interview, can you bring an ice coffee? Okay. And I feel all the millennials were like disrespectful, no, like you need to be totally dialed in. And Gen Z is kind of like, this is why we can't get jobs. Well, they want to go in probably because I have like my water jug. I was like I never even knew about water until I got into like my 30s. So now everyone has a fucking jug everywhere they go. And then what they're going to bring that. They need more fucking room at an interview. You bring your body. You bring a res. You bring a. I don't even know if there's resumes anymore, but you do what you've got to do. But, yeah, I can't stand it. I said if I'm going in for an interview, I'm not bringing a nice coffee. Me neither. But if I'm interviewing someone and she has a nice coffee, I'm not not hiring her.
Starting point is 00:13:58 No, I wouldn't not hire her, but I would be like, you're holding your hand with your dominant hand. That's the same hand you're going to shake someone's hand with. It's now all moist. Yeah. And gross. And then I'm like, sorry. And then you're drawing. What is happening here? It just shows like you're sloppy. Yeah. Okay. That was my recent TikTok hole. Okay. And I was really. I didn't even, I've never been on that side of TikTok before. Well, everyone was then. I felt old because all the Gen Z were then asking their moms. Like what do you think? And I was like, no, I hate this for me right now. Are there any, I mean, the Gen Z terms. That's like a bad question. But are there any millennial. terms that you will not get rid of. All of them. Like, Gen Z being like, you guys don't have to keep saying LOL.
Starting point is 00:14:44 I was just going to say that. What the fuck do you mean? I do. I feel safe. Yeah. And like, I want you to know my tone. And LOL. Like, I am LOLing right now.
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Starting point is 00:18:25 slash Chloe. That's Shopify.com slash Chloe. Can you say one other thing about you? Obviously. You also make me very excited to be a mom. Thank you. You know, like, I feel like I met Morgan Stewart a year ago and I, and I feel like, I feel like you hit a point sometimes in your 30s where you're like, oh, am I not going to like make friends again? Probably not. No, just kidding. Yeah. Like, you feel like, oh, no, I'm, I've hit my quota. Yeah. These are my friends. They've been my friends for whatever. And of course, I love my friends. But then I feel like you. meet other people later in your 30s or whatever and you get excited. So like when I met Morgan, I was very excited because I was like, oh, I feel like you're going to be my friend. And I feel the same way with you where I'm like you're still not getting it. Like we're best friends. I'm like I want to be the kind of mom. And I talk to Morgan this morning. I love Morgan. Oh my God, the three of us. No, I can't. Let's go to dinner. No. And also because I feel like I'm, whenever I'm with Morgan, there's a lot of people around us. And I can feel her wanting to gossip.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Oh, no, it's amazing. And I'm actually seeing her tonight. Oh, my God. So I feel like I have like a list of things where I'm like, I feel like we could gossip about this. You should come. She's insane at gossip in the best way possible. In the best way. Because she says something and then she looks at you to see like, are you going to say something? Right. And I love that energy. And have you ever met someone talk faster? Like it just whatever, she just knows everything. Yeah. It's crazy. And you're both Geminize, right? No, I'm a cancer. You are. I am. Wait, why did I think you were a Gemini? When's your birthday? June 27th. Oh, okay. But I'm a cancer that has, I think the world has made my zodiac sign a little tougher.
Starting point is 00:20:18 Yeah, no. Like, I'm not as sensitive as most, I'm not really very sensitive at all. Alex is probably dying. Like, you don't ever show emotion. But that's, well, they say Scorpios get along the most with cancers. I do my mom, Kendall, my stepdad. They're all. Scorpio's my ex-husband. Like, I love a Scorpio. Wow. Yeah. See, I feel like I don't, I dated one Scorpio once. The Scorpio men, scary. Yeah, scary. You're like really scary. And Scorpio on Scorpio is wild. My mom and dad are both Scorpio. Oh, wow. And then it's me. And my brother is a cancer. No. So like now I look back at growing up and I'm like, wait, were we mean to you? Like, really? No. And a boy. cancer is like a different beast. Very sensitive. I will insult my brother like on a random Tuesday
Starting point is 00:21:12 and I'm not kidding. Three years later. I'm like, do you remember on Thanksgiving of 20-07 when you said, I'm like, no, why would I remember that? No, he'll never forget. And it's genuinely, it took that many years to be able to confront you. Yes. Yes. No, he's the sweetest. Oh, you have fucked his soul. No, like it's a you really have. Okay. what is your death row meal? And you didn't compliment how pretty my glasses are. I'm just going to say, is this a mermaid? Well, you can ask like for specifics. I don't know. But Kim and I went to Monaco and we saw these. I was, wow, I love these. It's all I said. And she got them for me for my birthday. That is so sweet. And you're the first person I'm using them. No, I love them. Do you cook?
Starting point is 00:21:57 You know, I just bought a crock pot and it's changed my whole life. They're so easy. No. They're so. And an air fryer. You have to get an I have an air fryer. Okay. I just made a pot roast. I don't think I've ever done that. So, wow. It was raining last Sunday.
Starting point is 00:22:12 Like, football's on in the background. I was like, what else am I going to do but make a pot roast? Yeah. That's crazy. So I made that and I've, it's changed my whole life. Wow. Like, I'm leaving here and I can't stop thinking about the buffalo chicken wing dip I'm going to make this weekend.
Starting point is 00:22:26 Oh, you are advanced. Yeah. Okay. Going from nothing to. No, going from never cooking to that. Okay. My death row meal. is definitely something my mom makes.
Starting point is 00:22:37 My mom is like an amazing cook. She doesn't. She only really cooks Italian food though. But she makes veal and peppers and then her eggplant parm. I think would be my death row meal. Something that now I'm pivoting, because you just have me thinking, that I loved, I've heard you say in the past somewhere.
Starting point is 00:22:55 I just, it's so true. And I'm paraphrasing you, but something like, it's so scary. No one talks about growing up and like leaving your family. and starting your own family. And people don't talk about that as much. But it's also a testament to how great your family is. Because you're like, why the hell would I want to start my own? This is how great mine is. And I feel the same with mine. Like you have to join mine. I'm probably not going to join yours. So like, I'm telling you now, if you want to come over here, great, we can go do some things with you guys,
Starting point is 00:23:29 but all the main holidays are ours. Right. Like we'll see you guys sometime. Sometimes. Of course, No, my children. Yeah, but not. Like, I'm not going Christmas morning. Are you? Okay. I'm going with my parents. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:41 Like, I feel like Italian and Armenian is very similar. And I also feel like I'm the girl. So like you come into my family. Also, our brothers. Go. Oh, no. Oh, stay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:56 Okay. Your new sister. Come on over. But I feel like if my brother was like, hey, I have to go to my wife's family. is for Christmas. I'd be like, I get that. I'm the same. I get that. Like, yeah, she's the girl. Go. But with me, and I'm dating an Italian guy and his sister actually said to me one time, like, if you guys are always with your family, I get it. And I was like, yes, we have to have that balance. Like, I'm not leaving my mom. And do you get along with her? Because there's another sister.
Starting point is 00:24:23 Yes, he has two sisters. And I love them. You have a hundred sisters. I think I manifested sisters. I feel like you're good now. So there is hope true. That's all I have to keep from finding myself. But I also always felt like when I would say that, I felt like babyish and like immature. Like, oh, you don't want to like leave your parents. And I'm like, well, no, why would I leave them? I thought it was so, what is that? I thought it was so vulnerable and beautiful and also hearing that perspective. I was like, right? I think we're conditioned to never say something like that. And oh, the woman has to get married and you're just by. And you've then have to do all these responsible things. I'm like, but who? Like now I'm like, I don't think I would even think about changing
Starting point is 00:25:08 my name, my last name. It's crazy when you get older, right? Yeah, I'm like, wait. I used to be so excited to be, I used to tell my mom like, I'm not always going to have this last name. Yeah. And she'd be like, okay. Sure. Like now at 33, she's like, I feel like you are. No, but I feel the same. I'm like, what is all this? Also, I feel like when you get into a certain age and you're not like going out as much just like on the weekends and with your friends, you see your family in a different light. Like my dad, I think genuinely is the best person to have a cocktail with. Like I find him so much more fun to be like out at a dinner drinking with than like half my friends.
Starting point is 00:25:51 I like hanging out with my family is what I could do all night and day. It's the best. Like we go on a family vacation every year to Italy. We go to the same place. Because my dad's like, why would we try somewhere else if we love it here? But I'm sort of, I have that similar mentality. You do. I have limited time of a vacation.
Starting point is 00:26:10 Why are we experimenting if I don't know if I'm going to like it or not? Right. No, I get that. And sometimes I'll be like, okay, well, we can just go here for the day and see it. And he's like, fine. But like, I want to go to the place that I like in Italy. And so we, everyone thinks we're crazy. Like, we go for like two and a half weeks.
Starting point is 00:26:29 Oh, I love that. And so many people will be like, how are you? you with your family that long. And I'm like, it's not enough time. Well, I grew up in their homes. Right. I like it here. So I do like it here. Wait, do you want to have kids? I do. You do. Because you said, I make you excited to have kids. I think you would be the best mom. Thank you. Thank you. Like, you said about Morgan, like it doesn't change anything. Yeah. You have to learn how to juggle it all. Yeah. But once you do, you're like, okay, I got this. I think the beginning six months, you're like, what did I do?
Starting point is 00:27:04 Yeah. I want to die. This is crazy. Well, I think you and your sisters are like just the perfect example of, no, you still like have a career. You're still really hot. Like you don't die after you have a baby. No.
Starting point is 00:27:21 But I feel like sometimes society is very much like have a baby, have a baby. And then when they do, they're like, shut up. Yeah. Oh, my God. And I've had jobs when I got pregnant. They were questioning, are you sure you're coming back or doing it? I was like, what year is this? Yeah, it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:27:36 It is crazy. But don't let other people tell you otherwise. And do it on your own time. We live so much longer now. There's no rush to have kids anymore. Because it does change different dynamics and like you even going away for two and not that you can't do that, but then you're like lugging more people. But it's all doable.
Starting point is 00:27:57 And I do feel like I will be the kind of person that. that when I do have a baby, what I'm doing now, of course, I love it. I do just feel like in my gut, I'm going to be like, okay, but now I'm obsessed with this like small human that I've made and I don't care about this other stuff. So I almost feel like I want to be over the other stuff before I do it. Yeah. Because I do feel like it's going to consume me. It will. And I think enjoy the ride that you're on and be head first here. You have years until you need to have a baby. I froze my eggs. That's the most important part.
Starting point is 00:28:33 Which I honestly loved the experience. Oh, you did? I called Hannah and I go, I think I have a hormonal imbalance because these shots make me feel on top of the world. You might. No, I think I do because those shots were sociopathic. No, pumping myself full of estrogen and I was like, I'm glowing. Yeah, I'm glowing. I love this.
Starting point is 00:28:56 Your hair's great. I was walking to the building to like get them taken. out and I'm like my stomach is like swollen. Anyone on that street could have come up to me and I would have killed them. Like I felt I was like holding my stomach. I felt I was like my eggs are all right here. Don't even look at me. I felt so maternal. Like I really felt you're going to be a fucking lioness of a mother. That when they took them out, I did crash. I was like, no, I have a hormonal imbalance. You might. You might need to do. I need to get that checked for sure. But I was the only thing with that was you're just like swollen a little after and like tender. Yeah. But I think it's it is easy.
Starting point is 00:29:35 It's just more the shots affect different people. Like I hated it. Yeah. But it was more how like you did look like three months pregnant sometimes. It's crazy. My like face got swollen. That's the part is the when you see like gorgeous pregnant people. I'm like are we? Well, this is like fucked. What is your ideal amount of plans in a week? Going none. None, right? Like none. But you work a lot. And I know that's not considered plans. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:04 That's what you've got to do. It's socializing for sure. It is. It's energy draining. You have to be on. There are like, okay, last weekend is a perfect example. I feel like I'm, I sound like Courtney. I've gotten glam every day the month of September and I can't do it anymore.
Starting point is 00:30:21 No, but I get that because I like, don't talk to me on a weekend. No, I literally said to my boyfriend, I said, I am so. sorry, but I need you to leave me alone all of Saturday, like go do whatever, go golf. I have to be nonverbal for at least 11 hours. That is me. I recharge. Yeah, I have to. People think, oh, is something wrong with her? I'm like, no, I need alone time. Yeah. I'm so overstimulated in all that we do all the time that sometimes I just need everyone to shut the fuck up and leave me alone. I want to veg out. I don't want to watch anything smart. Yeah. What do you watch? It's like your vibe.
Starting point is 00:31:00 Okay, it goes all over the place. I'm a huge Bravo junkie, so I do love Bravo. I watch... Are you housewives or are you like everything? Have you watched NextGen? A little. But what I saw I was really into. No, I'm really into them.
Starting point is 00:31:16 I don't know what it is, but they're a great cast. They're so cute together. I really am into it. But I need to watch the whole season. I just haven't had time. I'm not really like a top chef person. Yeah. But like I'll watch it in the background.
Starting point is 00:31:29 So I need a little more drama. Yeah, a little more drama. Okay, I have one for you. Tell me. Real Housewives of London. It's only on Peacock. Fucking love them. No.
Starting point is 00:31:40 The fucking, who's the blonde that wears the pink all the time? Amanda. Love her. I need to text Andy because I'm like, wait, why isn't Real Housewives of London on regular Bravo programming? What is that? I don't know. Love that. I'm also, I was re-watching Housewives of Melbourne.
Starting point is 00:31:57 I haven't watched it in years. It was on TV the other day for, I think like a Saturday. Yeah. And then I was like, wait, I need to go into the vault and pull this up. And it is so unhinged. I think it's their accents make it better. It does. It's amazing.
Starting point is 00:32:12 And Real Housewives of London, I'm like, yeah, I want to watch people fight about whether or not you were truly invited to Buckingham Palace. Yes. Like, that's the drama I want. Or if you're really the sole owner of this castle. I'm like, obviously. And like, you borrow dresses? Borrow dresses. Like, it's crazy. No, I love that. But I do love documentaries. I just watched the one about something about the pastor's wife.
Starting point is 00:32:38 Yeah, that was crazy. That was crazy. Okay, I couldn't watch once I got on reality TV, because I watched every single thing on Bravo. Then the minute I was on Bravo, I like, I couldn't watch. Because you see the smoke and mirrors. I don't know what it was. It made me just like immediately anxious. I think. I think I would think like, oh, we just wrapped filming. Did I, like, sound like her? Like, did I say this? Like, did I, you know? And as of like two or three months ago, I'm back. Yeah. I'm so back. You needed a break. I needed like a small break. So what were you watching? Everything scripted. And like, I was like, no, thanks on TV. I know. Scripted is great, but sometimes you need the drama. Yeah, I need the drama. I just watched Emmy Rossum's Furious on Hulu. I haven't seen it. So good. So good.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Do you like a period piece? Yeah. I love a period piece. I do. So do you watch Gilded Age? No. Oh, wait. Because my daughter will come and sleep with me and I can't watch anything.
Starting point is 00:33:41 Yeah. Like I'm. Wait, I love that she comes and sleeps with you. Yes, she will. Last night she was slapping me in my face, like with her arm. I'm like. Like she'll come in the middle of the night. Or sometimes she starts with me, but I try to have her start in her room and she just walks in.
Starting point is 00:33:55 Like, there's nothing happened. Yeah. She just programs to wake up. Yeah. And just comes in, I'm like, come on. I mean, like, I feel like I still do that when I go home. I'm like, I need to get my mom's bed. I don't care when some people are like, you shouldn't do that.
Starting point is 00:34:08 I'm like, why? She's not going to do that forever. And if she does at 18, great for me. No, I did that my whole childhood. And now it's actually one of the sweetest memories because my dad will say like, oh my God, remember when you used to sneak into our room and I'd pretend I didn't know. And I would be like, and like, as of like two years ago, I was like, You know? Wait a minute. I thought it was really fooling you. He's like, no, obviously I could see you. But my mom would be like, oh my God, okay, be quiet. And that was such a moment that I didn't even know. And now as like a grown adult, I'm like, hey, you guys were a good parent.
Starting point is 00:34:46 Yeah. You're like, oh, good. You did something. I made a custom bed because I always have cousins over. And for Tatum, I'm like, you guys all have to fit in here. So I have a jumbo size bed. You would actually love it. No, Chloe, that's my dream. Yeah. When you say jumbo, like, compare it to just like a king-sized bed. Like, it's double. I think it's double. It's like a nine. I need the number for that guy.
Starting point is 00:35:09 I think it's a nine feet wide. Yeah. How do you buy sheets? You get them custom. You have to do, once you do one, you got to do it all. So it is a commitment. Yeah. But there's and something really crazy.
Starting point is 00:35:22 My bed goes up and down. I have that. Never, ever going back. Never. And when they were like, do you want the geriatric thing? I was like, absolutely not. Then I I test drove on. I go, yeah. Fuck yes. I'll never not have an adjustable base bed. Never not. My parents were making fun of me when I, because I brought them to go mattress shopping with me. Of course, as one does. Because I'm like, this is a big decision. You lay on it. You tell me how you feel.
Starting point is 00:35:51 Yes. And when I was like, I don't know these answers. You tell me what to do. Yeah. And my dad was very into it. He was like, yeah, no, this is a huge. purchase. It is. It is. It'll change your old life. And when I got the adjustable base bed, they were like, really, like, are you going to use it? Every day. Every day. Every day. And mine vibrates. Yes. What? It vibrates me off to sleep. I'm like, hold on. Do you want to elevate your legs? Because I could do that for you. Yes. It is literally. And now true is like, can you make it so it does the buzzing? I'm like, oh my God. I have ruined her. Okay. Can I be honest? For the longest time, I would just wander around the gym doing whatever I felt like doing that day. A few saved Instagram workouts here, a random YouTube video there,
Starting point is 00:36:33 no plan, no progress. I knew I should be strength training, but I never knew what to do. Like, what exercises? How many sets? How do I actually get stronger? Then I found the ladder app, and it completely changed how I workout. I've been using it for three weeks now, and my workouts have never been this dialed in. The ladder app isn't random workouts. It's a real strength training plan built by certified coaches. You get a new plan every week that builds on the last, so everything connects and you're actually progressing. And it feels like having a personal trainer in your headphones. The in-year coaching talks you through every set with cues, form reminders, and motivation.
Starting point is 00:37:09 There's a plan for whatever style you like, Pilates, bodybuilding, glute-focused, kettlebells, at-home dumbbell only, even pre-and-posed. The app remembers my weights, reps, and sets, so I can literally see myself getting stronger. There's a team group chat where your coach answers questions and everyone keeps each other motivated. And now it includes nutrition tracking at no extra cost, with AI-powered food logging and macro insights tied right into your plan. And the best part, it costs less than a dollar a day. Compare that to $100 plus for one session with a personal trainer. So remove the guesswork with ladder and get a real coach in your ear telling you exactly what to do for every workout.
Starting point is 00:37:46 No thinking, everything planned for you. If you have an iPhone, head to ladder.fit slash Chloe and take a quick quiz to find your perfect ladder plan. Use my link and get a free seven-day trial with no credit card and $10 off your first month if you join. That's ladder.fit slash Chloe. I have to tell you about something I'm really excited about. I made my own digital cookbook on Hungry Route, and I called it Chloe in Wonderland, because I wanted dinner to feel a little magical, even on a Tuesday when I'm exhausted, and the last thing I want to do is figure out what to cook.
Starting point is 00:38:18 Every recipe in it is something I'd actually make on a busy night. Fast, feel good, and still exciting enough that I look forward to it. So let me walk you through what's in it. First up, there's a balsamic, marinated chicken Caesar salad. It's just as good for lunch as it is for dinner, and it only takes about seven minutes to prepare. Then there's a creamy garlic shwarma chicken seasoned Jasmine Rice Bowl that tastes way more indulgent than it is. That one's my go-to when I want comfort food without the food coma. I also added a gingery chicken Jasmine rice bowl with seven different vegetables, rice, and a sesame ginger sauce that'll have everyone talking about how much they like it.
Starting point is 00:38:54 And of course, I had to include snacks, because I had to include snacks, because I was the same different vegetables, rice, and the rice and the sesame ginger sauce that will have. I'm a snacker. I put in a few of my favorites for that 3 p.m. slump, plus a little something sweet for after dinner. What I love is that hungry root isn't just a meal kit. It combines the convenience of a meal kit with a variety of a full grocery store, so I get the recipes and all the groceries and the snacks I actually want delivered together. That's the whole point of the Chloe and Wonderland cookbook, less thinking, more eating, and dinners that feel special without the stress. Explore my digital cookbook on Hungry Root today and find recipes that are right for you. Go to hungarroot.com slash Chloe to access my cookbook, Chloe in Wonderland.
Starting point is 00:39:31 I feel like you have a great sleep situation. Yeah. Like are you doing anything else in your room? Like do you have a sound machine? Sound machine. Okay. But mainly because my kids need it, but now I'm obsessed. Sound machine is amazing.
Starting point is 00:39:47 I love a lavender spray. Okay. How many pillows are you sleeping with? Way too many. Yeah. Need it. I want to be a princess with pillows. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:54 You're a princess in the pay. There is this brand Sleep Crown. Okay. Have nothing to do with them. Okay. You love them. Fucking love them. I was even like, let me help you.
Starting point is 00:40:04 They said no. So, please. Don't you love that? You know who I did that to me? I'm turned on. I'm like, now I'm really going to promote you because you do not want anything to do with me. Wait, you know the brand? Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:40:16 One time I went and got a facial and I was like, oh my God. Like I've never used this before. And I like posted it and they DM me. And they were like, please stop. No. I was like, totally. Yeah. On me, I'm like, never. And I cannot stop buying them. I gave them for Christmas gifts. Do you do blackout curtains? Yes. You do. Okay. Yeah. So coming to your home for a sleepover is probably magical.
Starting point is 00:40:39 In any of my rooms. I mean, because I make sure they're all good, but you will sleep in my bed. And there'll be enough space that because I also don't do adult sleepovers. Do you? Like with women. Oh. Um. She said, oh. I mean, amazing. is a different story. Yeah, I'm like trying to. But like, if I was like, Paige, come over. In my slumber party. No, I'm not like sleep.
Starting point is 00:41:01 Yeah, that's weird. I'm going home to my bed. That's how I am. I'm like, sure. And I'll like, come. Wait, who are you around that's having like adult sleepovers? I've been asked. And I'm like, okay.
Starting point is 00:41:11 That's their asking. Right. Okay. I'm too naive. Yeah, you're too sweet. I'm like, okay. I leave my blanket. They're like, no.
Starting point is 00:41:18 Naked. So funny. Custom bed is next on the list. Yeah, I think I need that. And they're expensive, but. but so worth it. No, your bed is worth it. Especially because you're a girl like me.
Starting point is 00:41:30 Yeah. Horizontal. At all times. Take meetings. Anything. Yeah. That's why it came out with a pajama brand. But like I've never used it.
Starting point is 00:41:38 But my aunt got it for me. And it's a little tinkerbell. And it's just like I pretend I have this hotel set up. And I'm not like, who's coming? If we can work from home, I'm doing it in the bed. I know. What is the point? I'm sitting at my kitchen table like a robot.
Starting point is 00:41:53 That's insane. And we're on the computer. I know. That's honestly why the adjustable base is so good because you wake up in the morning. You're like, let me do a couple of emails. Yeah. Being a doll. Let me just come all the way up here. Okay. So for me, like even I will make plans. I'm someone that I'm, someone's like, oh, I want you to come here in two months. I'm like, perfect. I'll be there. Yep. Or even this week. And then I panic because I'm like, I have to cancel everything. Like anything extra, anything I'm not really getting paid for. It's hard for me to commit to. Yes, I agree. Okay. Here's the thing. I feel like I did my 20s. I'm so proud of myself. I remember even like breaking up with a boyfriend because I was like, you're stopping me from my 20s and I need a couple more years. And it was the best decision. So now when I get invited to something where it's like, hey, I'm having a birthday party. Like, please come. I don't feel bad canceling those types of things because I'm like, Okay, but that's like a bit, like that's a couple hours. That's like, who knows if there's going to be someone there that I don't really fuck with.
Starting point is 00:43:01 Like, it's a lot of variables. I have a lot of questions before I could enter. Right. Yeah. But if it's like one of my girlfriends who's like, hey, we haven't seen each other in a while, let's go get lunch, that I feel I'm not canceling. Yeah. But the other stuff, whether it's going to be more than three people, I'm canceling. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:20 You won't even know that I'm not there. Right. Because you have other people that are. I know. It's the worst. But wait till you have kids. You're going to have the best excuse. I mean, I've only, no one questions you, especially pregnant. Yeah. Cancel everything. Yeah. I've already almost like tried to do it. I'm like, I feel like, I feel like my canny school a bad. Yeah. Just anything. Daphne needs me tonight. Totally. Yeah. Do you have a like a go-to excuse? Okay. Well, Hannah's been calling me out for it recently, but my go-to excuse used to be a UTI.
Starting point is 00:43:52 Oh my gosh. You can't. How are you going to prove? prove it. Yeah, who's arguing with you when you have a UTI? And if it's like a man, they've already, they're not responding already because they're like, I don't even. They're scared. Yeah. They can't touch that. But I went, I was getting UTIs literally like once every four months. I was becoming honestly, us weekly wrote an article about it, which I felt so rude. Super cute. But I went to a doctor and he like truly helped me and I haven't had one in almost a year. I don't say that. I know. But now Hannah's like, well, you can't use that as an excuse anymore. And I'm like, well, you can't use that as an excuse anymore. And I'm like, well, watch me. But that is such a good one. It has to be medical. Yeah. And it has to be. Because what are they going to say? You're feeling it's coming on. Wait, speaking of Hannah, how's the Botox situation? No, it's not good. But it's... You're going to die when I tell you this story. I was Hannah. Stop. 2015. Yeah. I'm going to show you a photo. Because I was like, wait. So I got boat. I think it was the first time I ever got Botox. Yeah. I got Botox. I got Botox. And then my ex-husband overdosed, as one does. Yeah. And I guess it's something that could happen if you're, like, stressed out. It's sort of like, oh, I didn't know that. I didn't know that either. But I didn't know what happened to me because I wasn't smiling at this time. So like a month later, I had a contractual obligation to go to fucking Barnes & Noble for a book signing. No. And I'm smiling. And I just feel that my face. Before you keep going, I have Kardashian Confidential in my
Starting point is 00:45:24 room to this day. You do not. Oh my God. Legend. Yes. Icon. Me and my best friend from high school, we're like, wait, we still have Kardashian confidential. Keep it. Oh my God. Okay. It is, first of all, this is like diabolical photos. But this one doesn't even look that bad. There's worse. But like, I can't get my lips like to go up. Yeah. And I'm smiling. I could tell I'm like, yeah. Like I just kept feeling why won't my. my cheeks move. And then literally my sister was like, did you chew to cocaine? What's wrong with your face? Like even no. And like the makeup is really harsh and not helping. But like I can't move the corners of my mouth. And so I saw that that happened to her. And I was like, guys,
Starting point is 00:46:11 that happened to me. And I have all these stupid ass photos that are there. But I didn't even know that's what it was until later. Oh, you didn't know that it was that she like messed you up in No, I didn't realize that they were the same thing because it happened like a month before, but I didn't smile for, because I was in the hospital with my ex. This was like a month later. And then I was like, what the fuck is wrong with my face? I cannot move my mouth or my cheeks. I don't know what it was. No, she called me like, it happened.
Starting point is 00:46:43 And then she was like, it's okay. Like, it's going to be fine. It's going to be fine. How did she know? She knew immediately the next day. She was like in Miami and she just went to this random med spot and I was like, why are you doing that? And she had had it in her master's before because she was like, I have TMJ. I'm like, yeah, she did it.
Starting point is 00:47:05 But anyway, I think the girl just did it like a little too low. And like immediately the next morning she woke up and she was like something's wrong. I can't move my face. And then like a week into it, I started to get like really concerned for it because she called me and she goes, okay I'm not trying to be dramatic but I'm suffocating in my own body and she started sending me like different stats on like how you can
Starting point is 00:47:27 get depression if you really don't smile and she was like okay what if I get depression? I'm like just keep like practicing and going saunas I mean now it's like no we're in it we're like five months into it. I was going to say I feel like it's a six month
Starting point is 00:47:43 now already. Yeah I was like you're not because you can't dissolve Botox. No. You have to ride it out And I'm like, you know what? Maybe it'll speed up because she's a sweater. Like in any situation, she's going to sweat. And so I'm like, I think that's actually good. It'll like maybe it'll sweat out of you.
Starting point is 00:48:00 But she's pretty still deep in it. Like, I think Christmas. Oh, my God. Christmas, she'll be back to normal. That is crazy. But I did it like the two months prior. And it was like the first time I got Botox. And I woke up the next day and my lip was like pulling to one.
Starting point is 00:48:18 side. And I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, what is happening? And I had to fly to L.A. like that next week to host Netflix actor awards. No. And I'm like, I call the girl and I'm like, no, I can't go on camera like this. And so I go back in, she evens me out. She just holds both sides. Yeah. So then I'm on the red carpet and I have no movement from here down. So I'm like, I don't even know if I'm drooling. It happened to both of us within like two to three months. And it was honestly, probably the best thing to happen to both of us because we're like, now we're not, we're not doing it for a little bit. I didn't do it for years.
Starting point is 00:48:57 I was so traumatized in the fact that anyone thought, like, that I thought that was okay. It was really crazy. Can we talk about how much modern life is working against us? We live in an age of unprecedented access to information, innovation, and opportunity, but also one of environmental and societal stressors that our biology was never designed for. microplastics, being on our phones all day, endocrine disruptors, industrialized food, it's hijacking our health at a cellular level. And for me, that looked like feeling sluggish, bloated, and just not like myself. That's why I started taking Armour Colostrum. Armour Colostrum is
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Starting point is 00:50:14 immune health, metabolism, hair, skin, and even performance and recovery. So you can stay sharp, strong, and at your best in a world that demands it. I just mix my serving into my morning coffee, and it's become a non-negotiable part of my routine. We've worked out a special offer from my audience. Receive 30% off your first subscription order. Go to armor.com slash Chloe or enter Chloe to get 30% off your first subscription order. That's A-R-M-R-A.com slash Chloe. Biggest ick. I mean, I could say like the obvious, which is like men in flip-flops. But I feel like my biggest ick now is just like people that are rude.
Starting point is 00:50:56 And I feel like now being in, I'm 33, I'm like a business owner. I feel like I've been on reality TV. It's really so much easier to be nice. Like you actually have to go out of your way to be an asshole. Yes. I'm like, wait, I don't have the energy. I don't have the energy at all. And you do.
Starting point is 00:51:15 It's so much harder and takes way more energy. And like to think of insults. I'm like, you could just sit here in silence. Hi, thank you. Yeah. That's it. So now when I meet people in like my adult life and I'm like, wait, I feel like you're kind of a bitch, I'm like even more intrigued.
Starting point is 00:51:31 I'm like, why? Yeah, for what? Yeah, for what? And I think especially, like, with someone like you, some people think they're impressing you by being a bitch. Wait. Which I'm like, it's disgusting. Yes.
Starting point is 00:51:43 Or people think I'm going to be a bitch. So they like do things and I'll look at them and be like, that's like really weird. Don't do that. Yeah, that's the opposite. And then they're like, oh, I get that too. It's so interesting. I'm like, but why would that be your default? Right.
Starting point is 00:51:57 And why do you think that about me? Right. Thank you. What would be like the last few searches on your Google? Oh my God. I Google a lot of things. I do too. Like anything could pop up on TikTok and I'll be like.
Starting point is 00:52:10 What age do babies drink water? Like, you know, just like random. I Google a lot of things about my cat because they have so many tells. Like their tail in a different way. So I feel like I'm always Googling like her tail's a little pointy, but like not, you know. I should be doing this. So like what? Like, how does she feel about it?
Starting point is 00:52:30 So I'm Googling a lot of that. I also Google how to spell a lot of words. Yeah. You know? I get that. I'm like, is there an eye in that? Oh, my. when kids going to school and they expect the parents to know how to do this.
Starting point is 00:52:43 At what age are you out? She's just started third grade and I am. Yeah, and I'm out. Second grade was a challenge. Once you hit long division, call someone else. And they do, what is it called? The math. Singapore math.
Starting point is 00:52:57 What the hell is that? I don't know. Everything's in a fucking bubble. And then they're like, well, if you need us to teach it to you, we can. I go, no, no, no, I've already done this. No, no. I have a business manager. I don't need to know any of these things.
Starting point is 00:53:10 No. No. So they're teaching the curriculum. Actually, I just heard that the ABC song is a different jingle. Is that true? I don't know. That is a lot for me to handle. That's crazy that they're teaching math just like different.
Starting point is 00:53:23 Different. They're like, oh, we came up with a better way? You can divide the same way or multiply. You're lucky I know that word. I'm out. I'm out at third grade, I think. It's hard. I'll hire a tutor. Yeah, I have a tutor.
Starting point is 00:53:36 Yeah. What is your go-teeat? to beauty treatments. Ooh, I just started, well, as of like six months, microneedling. Love microneedling. Change my life, I think. Like, changed my skin.
Starting point is 00:53:49 And anyone can do it. Anyone. And I've been using for like two years now a brand called face reality is the skincare. And I love it. Never heard of it. Honestly, I feel like they're like small. I love. Do you ever sleep in your makeup?
Starting point is 00:54:03 Sometimes. Okay, so do I. And I think it's good to do. Oh, good. Like I have this crazy unpopular opinion that I feel like there have been times where I've gone to sleep. I've had a pimple. I've slept in my makeup, not like trying to, just like tired. And I've woken up and my skin's been better.
Starting point is 00:54:21 I love that. So I think it's like humbling. I think everyone needs to do it. I don't feel bad. Like when I wake up, I'm not like, oh, I can't believe. I'm like, all right. I had a rough day yesterday. That first wash is so good.
Starting point is 00:54:33 So good. You're like, oh my God. And how clean you feel after. Sometimes you need to remind yourself how. lucky we are. My mom says it's good to get your natural oils out. Love your mom. And I agree. Love your mom. Like, whenever I go home, something happens to me and I'm like, I can't shower for three days. Like, I have to stay in my pajamas. And she's like, you know, it's good to get your natural oils out. Oh, your mom loves you so much. I like, mom, I smell. She's like, it's good. It's good. It's good for you.
Starting point is 00:54:59 Yeah. It probably is good for you. What is something that your parents still do for you? Oh, my gosh. You're like, here's the list. Everything. No, my parents now are truly my only sounding board. Like, obviously there's like agents and managers and all this like different stuff. And I have like Hannah's my business partner. And not that my parents have ever worked in entertainment. Like my mom is an accountant by trade. And so it's not like they'll know exactly what I'm asking, but I call them for every business decision. I'm just like just listen to this, tell me what you think, and I want to see if your gut reaction is mine. So I lean on them a lot for that. And also, they're really like the only people that I can brag to and not feel weird.
Starting point is 00:55:51 Yeah. Like I'll call my mom and just be like, no, I'm the best. And she's like, yeah, you're like, obviously you're the funniest, you're the prettiest. You're the best everywhere you go. Like, when I was on Summer House, she would be like, people would say things to my dad. Like, truly you would have thought I like, started in OnlyFans. I was doing fully nude when like certain... From being on that show. Yeah, when like certain people would say things to my dad
Starting point is 00:56:14 and they'd be like, she like talks about sex. And my dad would be like, yeah, she does sometimes. Like, and they're just so supportive that my dad would watch every single episode of Summer House and be like...
Starting point is 00:56:28 That's my daughter. Yeah, like, and he would call me and be like, you just can't look away from you on the screen. Like every... So I like lean on them for such emotional support. Like I would not be confident at all if it wasn't for them. Well, that's how we are with our mom.
Starting point is 00:56:43 And I know if my dad was here, we would do the same. Yeah. And like, yeah, you're an adult. You talk about sex. Yeah. And that's okay. Right. I'm 33 years old.
Starting point is 00:56:51 Right. I'm sure he has figured at some point. Right. Absolutely. Because you've been on reality TV for so long. Would you ever go and do a different reality TV show? Like, would you ever? I'm just like pulling one. Like a great British bake off.
Starting point is 00:57:06 Would you ever go do like a, like a. Like be on it or be a host of something? No, like be on it. Would you ever do like a competition show? I don't know. So I. Or would you ever go on like Real Housewives of Beverly Hills? Probably not.
Starting point is 00:57:21 No. Not because I love them. Yeah. But I have worked really only with my family. Yeah. And I can't imagine. I feel like shows like that you feel competitive to get screen time. Totally.
Starting point is 00:57:33 And I've never lived like that because we're like, It's family. You have to film it. Yeah. It's your job to film me. So, and I'm assuming that's how it is and it's cutthroat and you have to talk shit about people or what's your purpose there. Yeah. You have to like have an opinion. Yeah. And sometimes I don't want to. Yeah. So probably not when it comes to like I love watching kids baking shows and competitions like American Ninja Warrior, but I like the kids. Like I don't know why like. Yeah. I mean, I could see you hosting like that for kids. Like do that. Yeah. But I don't know if I would be on anything like that. Wait, no. I want you to like host like, are you smarter than a fifth grader or something? But I wouldn't be.
Starting point is 00:58:14 Are we okay that they started at fifth grade? I'm like, I would never. What do you even learn at fifth grade? I was at something for fashion week and it was like a press line or whatever. And one of the guys, I think it was like L magazine or something. He asked me to spell mademoiselle. First of all, I go, how dare you? Yeah, that is very.
Starting point is 00:58:35 very disrespectful. I'm like, ask me, like, how much I weigh. That would be less in-based. How does film matter? It would be like, honestly? No. Thank God. I saw it on like the back of the wall and I just turned my head and I read it because I got so nervous. No, when I see there's like TikTok videos and they stop people on the street. They're like, how many continents are there? Literally, and I try to guess as many as I know. And then I'm like, I did it. I'll read the comments. I'm like, wait, who's wrong? Was it me or that person? Also, it's like when you're under pressure in the Like that moment. I'm like... I'm like... I'm like, no, I can't stop. Like, I have to run away.
Starting point is 00:59:09 I have to run away. I don't like the pressure of like the clock going down. Yeah, me neither. I really don't like it. I hosted X Factor for like a day. And they had an earpiece. And when you were talking, they would say 29, 28, 27. And I'm like, huh?
Starting point is 00:59:25 And it's live. And that I can't handle all. No, I passed out when I hosted Love Island. No. Stop. I had to stop. I was hosting one challenge. And I thought, oh, when they edit it, they'll just make it look like I was still there and then like I wasn't there anymore.
Starting point is 00:59:40 Oh, is that way you were gone? And they go, Paige has to step away for a moment. Oh, I don't remember that part. I passed out to literally. Literally fainted. Well, first of all. From the heat. Yes.
Starting point is 00:59:50 And it was like. And this distress. They were like, oh, it's like a, what is the word? I was going to say woodchuck, but not a woodchuck, but not a woodchuck. Whatever. It was like outdoorsy was the theme. And I was like, well, the only thing. have to wear to match that as like this like Lequan like cut out suede outfit. But it was so naked that I was like the
Starting point is 01:00:13 you're not going to, I'm not going to be affected by the suede. And then I took a beta blocker. Yeah, as one does. And I didn't know that when you take a beta blocker, your body can't cool itself down. Oh, I didn't know that either. No. So once I started sweating, that was it. That was my temperature for the whole day. Learn with you. Okay. So I'm out in the Fiji sun for like five hours. Packing fainted. And I'm like, guys, I'm like, guys, I'm. I'm in, they're in my ear, like, telling me what to say. And I go, actually, I'm going down. No, no.
Starting point is 01:00:40 And I was like, I have to go. But I watched. They didn't show you faint. No, they don't show me faint because I, like, stepped away. They had, like, this, like, little fake house. And so I, like, went into it. And I was like, I need a water. And then I dropped.
Starting point is 01:00:53 And I was like, guys, I'm going back to my hotel. And they just said, Paige had to leave. Yeah, they were like, Paige had to go. And I was like, yeah. Okay. Well, on that note, oh, my God. Yep. You have to go.
Starting point is 01:01:04 This was so fun. Oh my God, I had so much fun. Thank you for having me. Thank you for doing this. My pleasure. I had so much fun. Honestly, told you we're best friends now. No, we are.
Starting point is 01:01:12 No, we really are.

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