Khloé in Wonder Land - Rumor Has It ft. Rob Kardashian
Episode Date: July 17, 2025What started as a solo catch-up turned into a full-on sibling moment. Khloé dives into the headlines, sets the record straight, and gets Rob on the line for some real talk. It’s honest, fu...nny, and full of the answers you’ve been waiting for.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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We make it hot, we make it crazy.
We start the clock.
Are we ready?
Yep.
Today, I wanted to do a one-on-one episode about debunking rumors.
I've heard about me or my family.
I just know that there's a long, long list.
Every Kardashian has a clone stored in calabasas.
So the Kardashians are clones? Yes, one million percent. I've heard this rumor that
Kardashians are witches. Their success is all due to the deal made with the
witches. I got plastic surgery to elongate my hands. She has the entire
internet asking what are those? Kim has six toes. Just count them.
There's six toes there.
One, two, three, four, five.
I get it.
That does look like a six toe.
Rob, the reason why I'm calling you
is because one of the questions are,
would you ever come back to TV?
Listen, it's definitely, I feel like...
This is...
Take your chance. Discover chance au Splendid, the new fragrance. Chanel. Okay guys, so I've been thinking that I absolutely love having guests on. I love sharing my space with really inspiring, smart, incredible people but I also love
just chit chatting one-on-one with you guys. I love talking with myself and sharing thoughts with you guys.
And today I wanted to do a one on one episode with all of you about debunking rumors.
So we had the team Google some rumors what they've heard about me or my family.
And I haven't read them yet.
So I'm gonna read them with you guys
and chat about them, give my insights.
Yeah, first you wanna talk about the first time
you ever heard a rumor about yourself?
I don't remember the very first rumor.
There's just always been.
I don't know if people feel like they have to top
these rumors, cause some of these rumors are crazy.
There was something from many years ago
about how we abducted raccoons or something.
It was like this whole thing.
It was bizarre.
And some rumors, you're just like,
where would that even start from?
And how does it have legs to become a viral thing?
So I don't know.
The very first rumor I've heard about me or my family.
I just know that there's a long, long list.
And I guess that's what we're about to get into is the long, long list.
Chloe was secret.
I was a surrogate for Kim.
I've never been a surrogate for Kim or anyone.
I've had one pregnancy that I've carried and that was true.
Another rumor is that I faked my split with Tristan for PR.
First of all, I don't want any of that kind of PR.
We've been broken up for this December will be four years.
So that's a very big commitment.
I don't think Meryl Streep can pull that off.
Like, that's crazy. And she's the best. Another rumor is I'm secretly married to Tristan. I've never
heard that rumor. No I'm not. I've heard this rumor that the Kardashians are
witches. Oh I've even seen this video. The story is their great-grandmother on the
Kardashian side went to a witch and made some sort of spell that her family would
be famous and rich. I'm not a witch that I know of. I can't tell you
what my great-grandmother did, but I don't think any of us are witches. I would
hope if I was a witch I would know some really cool spells and I know nothing.
Another rumor is that Kris Jenner orchestrates everything. I actually love that rumor,
and I don't think it should be debunked
because I think it's cool.
And in a way, oh, I don't know if she orchestrates,
but in a way, she's like the most powerful woman in my eyes.
So like, I'm here for it.
Oh, she plants stories about others
to take the heat off of one?
No, I mean, that's amazing.
But none of us plant stories.
But like, why would you plan it about another kid?
Plan it about somebody else?
Do you know what I mean?
Because then you're just putting your other child
in the same drama that you're trying to eliminate
the other one from.
So that doesn't even, some of these don't even make sense. The Kardashians are
all AI clones and reptiles. I'm not a clone. And like AI just became a thing
over the past few years. Like how... so what we just became clones? Lame. I have heard the reptilian thing. Okay I've seen videos
where people do photos of my hands from when I was literally 24 and I had
shorter nails. When your nails are shorter they look stumpier hence the
long nails. I like elongated fingers. Also in this photo, I know this photo because I
got annihilated for my skinny fingers, okay? And I was wearing nude nail polish
and my hands and my fingers look the same skin color so they do look extra
long. I'm not gonna lie about that. I have never worn nude nail polish since and
this is years ago because of this photo.
I don't like the way my hands look.
I don't want my hands to look like that.
But also when you get older,
I just think you naturally lose fat in your hands.
So yes, from a photo that I was 50 or 60 pounds heavier
than I am now, number one,
and I was 24, I'm now 40.
My hands are gonna age a little bit.
Kim has six toes and is part alien.
She does not have six toes.
Kim actually has beautiful feet.
I would say we all do in our family.
There's one sister's feet that aren't the best,
but you know, God is fair.
She is pretty gorgeous.
So they're fine.
They're just not the best.
This is rude.
I have a question for whoever made this rumor
that Chloe faked her voice for years.
I didn't fake my voice for years,
but I do wonder where the old voice went.
And it's not just me.
This is Courtney, Kim, and I.
Back in the day, we had such different voices than we do now.
And I don't know if it was the time.
Like everyone sort of spoke in more of a high-pitched voice.
I don't know.
My voice is different.
My laugh is different.
What I can't figure out,
because when I see old episodes of Keeping Up, I die that that's the sound of my voice. I cannot
believe it. It's a totally different voice. I agree or no, I could see where this comes from.
But did it gradually start changing into more of a normal voice? Or was it just one day I pulled out this deeper voice?
I don't know.
I can't tell you.
So I would love if someone can figure that out for me.
Was this a gradual transformation?
Or did we just go from the high voice to this voice now?
Cause I don't know.
Chloe is the family crisis manager in disguise.
I've never heard that, but I'm honored.
I am not.
I am the family support system.
Whenever someone needs me, I'm going to be there.
But family crisis manager, we're definitely,
when there is a crisis, we all come together.
We have a few family meetings,
but it's totally my mom and Kim,
that mainly Kim that will like lead the way, give guidance,
but we're all support if there's a crisis or whatever,
we're all there to support one another.
Kim normally will have like a master plan and like,
okay, this is what we got to do, blah, blah, blah.
Everything's gonna be fine.
And my mom just like reassures you
everything's gonna be fine too, but definitely not me.
Every Kardashian has a clone stored in Calabasas.
No, it sounds amazing, but I would want to look different so I can go and do things.
Where would you go? You were in disguise. If I was in disguise, I just want to do like
normal things. I love Costco. I would love to go to Costco and just walk up and down
the aisles and just shop without people like, why are you here? I've gotten into fights
at home goods because I wasn't supposed to be at home goods. And the girl was like, why are you here? I've gotten into fights at Home Goods because I wasn't supposed to be at Home Goods.
And the girl was like, what are you doing here?
And I said, what are you doing here?
Anything she said, I said the same sentence back.
She was like, shouldn't you be at Neiman's?
I go, shouldn't you be at Neiman's?
And she was like, just kept going at me.
And I was like, I love Home Goods.
She did not want me to be there.
She was like, you should not be buying stuff here.
And I was like, why?
Like it's, I don't want to be bullied
for going to Costco and Home Goods.
It's not nice.
And I would love to go to a fair.
I love fairs.
Like just go to a fair, ride the rides, have fun,
win the games without everyone thinking it's strange that I'm at the fair.
Do you have a weird favorite, like fair food?
What the fuck is that thing called?
Yes, I do.
Funnel cake, that's what it is.
I love funnel cakes.
I love the frozen lemonades, yum, yum, yum.
And I love that spinning machine
that you have to like stand on the wall and it spins you.
Love that.
I'm not a big roller coaster girl,
but that's why I like a fair.
Okay, the family holds weekly scandal planning meetings.
No, we hold, well, we used to, or we attempted to,
hold weekly meetings to just discuss like,
what's going on in each other's lives?
Like those types of things that lasted,
I think for like two weeks.
And then I'm still waiting for the next one.
It's been a few years,
but we used to do that and like come up with ideas
as a family that was really fun.
We haven't done that in decades,
but who the fuck wants this many scandals?
That's horrible.
Kim's crying face was intentional PR move.
No one would intentionally look like that crying.
That's crazy.
Like that's, you would try to avoid that.
Chloe has a burner TikTok where she responds to haters.
I don't.
I did have a Finsta for a minute
years ago and I forgot the login password. So I don't have it anymore on my phone and
I don't have the energy for a Finsta. Like what bothered me is I didn't realize people
could see if you're looking at their stories. That's annoying. Like let me just look from my page. Why do I have to go through all this work to stalk someone? So now like the girls always have
to remind me, you know, they can see if you look at their stories. I've just who the fuck cares.
Okay. I'm looking at your stories. Boo. I don't care. And when I respond, I respond from,
I say it with my chest. I respond from my own page. So now I don't care. And when I respond, I respond from I say it with my chest, I respond from my own page. So now I don't. The family
uses crisis actors and scenes on the show. For what? Like anytime
you have an entourage around you, they think those are like
paid actors, not actual friends. We barely have people around us.
I feel like we've lost all of our friends
because we've been on camera for 20 years
and most of our friends are like,
we don't wanna be on camera anymore.
We have shit to do.
So we don't have as many friends as we once did.
So who you see are the loyal few that have stayed
that haven't disappeared.
Chris has a secret vault of blackmail material.
She doesn't, but I would.
If I could, I think I would.
Just to threaten people.
Sometimes you just have to remind people
who the fuck you are.
Don't fuck with me, because remember this?
And then just leave it at that.
Chloe has a secret twin,
and they split public appearances post surgery?
What does that mean?
Am I just doing tons of surgeries?
Oh my God, wow.
Well, I don't have a secret twin.
Like everyone wants to joke, 10%, Chris Jenner,
I need 10%.
If I had a secret twin,
Chris Jenner would be milking that twin.
She would love a twin Kardashian act, please.
Chloe and plastic surgery,
people think she reconstructed her whole face.
I'm gonna take that as a compliment,
but I have done my nose.
I've said this a thousand times.
Dr. Raj Kanodia in Beverly Hills, he's amazing.
I love my nose for a multitude of reasons,
but mainly because I feel like it's a subtle nose job.
It's not super crazy.
I don't think you would know I had a nose job
unless you saw my nose before.
Then you'd be like, oh, okay, she had one.
But if you just saw me for the first time,
I don't think you would think I had a nose job.
I like that.
I've also lost 60 to 80 pounds at some point depending if I was
coming off of a pregnancy. That changes the shape of your face. I've also done
Botox and fillers. I don't love fillers anymore. Still love Botox. I do lasers on
a monthly basis. Love a fucking laser skin tightening anything. I'll do for skin tightening, but the only facial
surgery I've done is
The nose job and I would tell everyone I don't care. We also have video
Photos I've been on TV since I've been
22
21 22 you guys like it's obvious, but yes,
also I'm 40 gonna be 41.
My face is gonna change the older I get,
different makeup techniques, but I would say,
I don't even know if my nose made such a difference
in my face, because it's a similar shape
as my original nose. It's more, I would think, the weight loss or just aging.
I definitely think I noticed my face looking not the way I like it.
I would say stranger when I was doing fillers.
I didn't like that look.
But I think we had filler blindness for a moment,
or some people did.
And yeah, also lasers tightening things.
I would say that, that's what I think.
I did have hair on my face.
I've had skin cancer and I had a tumor removed
from the side of my face.
And my doctor has talked about it. I have side of my face and my doctors talked about it.
It's I have photos of a huge I've posted about it because I want to bring awareness to skin cancer.
I didn't know I could have melanoma. I never thought that's what it was. We removed a huge chunk
of my face to save my life and I had to wear a bandage on my face for over a year
to help the scar from not being crazy.
My whole face concaved and I do get filler.
That is, it's a bio stimulant filler.
I believe it's a Sculptra, not sure I do that here
because I need to fill that space.
So that is, sorry, that is the only place that I do get filler on right now. I used to fill that space so that is sorry that is the only place
that I do get filler on right now I used to do it in other places now it's just
here to fill the loss of volume that's in my face because I want to I don't
want my face to be indented the way it was you Photoshop every picture you
post I don't but there was a time that I definitely did.
There was a time that I was around some people that would make me feel like I needed to.
I also think it was the era too.
I felt like a lot of people were Photoshopping or heavily Photoshopping more than they do now.
of Photoshopping or heavily Photoshopping more than they do now.
I do feel like there was a time that we all just got consumed
in this filter lifestyle and we couldn't see ourselves
without a filter.
And there's definitely days that I'm like,
oh, I need a filter, I don't feel good about myself.
But I'm on video.
Like, and I do like myself better in video than stills.
I don't think I'm the most photogenic,
but I'll take 500 photos to get the one that I like.
That's okay, I'm allowed to do that.
But I will say there was a time that I heavily Photoshopped,
I wouldn't dare post a photo without heavily Photoshopping.
And in hindsight, when I look back at those photos,
it's a cartoon character and it's humiliating
that I thought that was even a version of myself.
I feel bad that I thought I needed to look like that, but I was around people who were
all doing that. And if they took my photo, they would make me look that way before giving
it to me. And then I would think that's how I looked. And if I got paparazzi, I'd be like,
I don't look like that. I look like this photo. And I really had to reprogram my mind to be like,
okay, we have to lay off the filters.
This isn't real.
That's not how I look.
And I don't wanna look like that.
It was a strange time.
Maybe filters were a new thing.
I can't remember.
I just remember being so consumed in the filter world
and having my face look away
that it just wasn't.
But currently now, no, I like to have good lighting.
I definitely have more controlled photos,
like good lighting and I might take a bunch
to get the ones I like.
But I don't have to Photoshop every photo.
But there was a time.
I was banned from the Met Gala.
Oh my goodness, I was at the Met Gala. So I've been
lovely. I just don't love red carpets. Like they're not any red carpet of any sort. They're not what I
care to do. I will go and the Met Gala was such a great experience because we, it was all my sisters
were there I think, right? Yeah. It was all my sisters and my mom that were there. So it was such a great experience because we, it was all my sisters were there, I think, right?
Yeah, it was all my sisters and my mom that were there.
So it was such a great moment in time to go.
And if I get invited back,
I mean, I've been invited back,
but I miss the days of red carpets
where you're taking something to promote a movie
or draw attention to your friend's brand
or whatever it is to a good cause, anything.
That used to be fun and do silly poses on the carpet.
It used to be so lighthearted and fun.
I don't remember people being like,
her face, her clothes, what shoes is she wearing?
Like it just is so horrible now.
You're going just to be annihilated.
And that's not why I'm choosing to leave my house,
my kids.
Why would I willingly wanna do that?
So I would have to be in a very jolly mood
to go on any red carpet.
I wanna walk around it.
I have so many events that I go to and I say,
no red carpet, I'm so sorry.
And it's like, they know that ahead of time. No disrespect I just don't want to hear the noise.
I'm gonna call my brother Rob. There's a few things about him that I read and instead of me
answering for him I'm gonna call him and let him answer some of them. Yo. Whoa. Yo. Hi. Hi.
Yo. Whoa.
Yo.
Hi.
Hi.
How are you?
Hi.
I'm good.
You're on Chloe and Wonderland right now.
So it's just me talking to me.
And this episode-
You talking to you.
Me talking to me.
And this episode is about rumors.
So basically I had my team here Google rumors about me or the fam and that's what
this episode is about. And the reason why I'm calling you is because some of the rumors are
pertaining to you and I felt who's better to address them than you. Don't you find it weird
that people think you and I still live together? Not really we live
together for a long time. Oh okay I always am like where would he be? I just
find it so strange that people still think. I mean my daughter's always at your house.
I know but we live in the same community. It's not that crazy.
It isn't that crazy, but people just stay either. I don't film a lot, so they don't see what we really do. So,
and why don't you film a lot? Do you just want to take a step back or is there,
I think people think there's like a blowout between us.
There's definitely nothing wrong between any of us.
It just has everything to do with myself.
I don't want to be, I don't want to be filming and putting myself in a position where I'm
not comfortable.
Like I'm not comfortable in my skin.
So why would I want to go be on camera and just be vulnerable and let like people in
when I'm not, that's not what I want to do.
Well, I will say just you saying that is very vulnerable and I think people will
respect that I mean that's just how I've been I'm not gonna just put myself out
there if I'm not comfortable with myself I haven't been comfortable with myself
in years and also filming and doing all that just it's not for everybody so no
it's not and I choose my own happiness and like peace
rather than just for somebody who doesn't do anything
for me and my personal life, so.
You better talk about it.
That's the truth.
One of the questions are, would you ever come back to TV?
And you might make a cameo on the Hulu show,
but people have to see about that.
It's a little.
No, of course.
I mean, I love filming if it's positive
and if it's natural and I'm feeling good about myself,
then of course, and I'm comfortable.
But of course, I like being around my family.
So that stuff is good to me So that stuff is good to me.
I mean, of course I would film.
I'm not, obviously I have nothing against it.
I just, the reason I don't is because I'm very, I'm a homebody and I'm just, I just
choose like I said, my peace and happiness rather than just like filming for, I don't know.
You're the smartest one, I'll tell you that.
Biggest question in the family, who are you the closest with?
I think you know that answer. I'm definitely closest with you.
Thank you. No, that's all you don't know. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
That's all we needed was just that.
Thank you.
I was just gonna say more positive facts.
Okay, let's hear it.
Well, because our kids are together every day.
We carpool, we dinner together.
Like, so it's just natural.
Like we're definitely the closest.
We have to communicate with each other. We also close before kids no of course I'm just
saying it makes sense to remain like that yeah okay I wish you didn't
elaborate it was better when you just picked me don't blame it on the kids I
didn't even name another sister do you have a favorite memory of me and you growing up?
A favorite? I mean there's more negative memories than positive but uh. What does that mean? I mean
you guys like my nickname was P-boy growing up and I just feel like that was caused by like. That was?
Probably me peeing on one of your friends.
Well, that's a problem.
And those are more your stepbrothers.
And anyways, Rob, you don't remember driving down
Ventura Boulevard on our bikes,
going to fast food restaurants and.
Chloe, you never did that.
I don't know what world you're living in.
We did that all the time from dad's house.
No, I took the bus.
I went and got, went to go eat on my friend's
play basketball. No, I said bikes.
Yeah, but you never did that.
Oh, from dad's house? Okay.
You and I did that all the time from Havenhurst.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm thinking like later on.
No, you freak.
Cause I used to walk down the hill from I know you took the bus.
I never took the bus.
That was you.
Listen, it's transportation.
But yes, I do remember a lot of good times.
I remember just kid stuff like making the swamp water like potion thing at the tower Lane house. I always remember that
What about we made forts and sewer drains? That was crazy. Like I would never let my kids do this now. It's crazy
Yeah, we used to like walk the streets. I mean people were gonna go. Oh you're walking the streets of Beverly Hills
It felt crazy there was llamas wild spit on us. Yeah but as a child you think a llama is like a dragon or something.
Well we never saw one before. Yeah so you don't know that's what I'm saying it's like a dragon.
Okay it's very different but anyways Rob do you think fatherhood has changed you?
Wait I just want to know how would you know whathood has changed you?
We watched puff the magic dragon or Pete the magic dragon. One of those.
It's dragon, I believe.
Pete's dragon. One of those.
You always do this. It's Pete's.
I'm pretty sure it's Pete's dragon.
I don't know, but we watched movies. Or have you not seen- It's Pete's dragon.
Or the never ending story, Valcor, like hello.
Of course, that, of course.
So I've seen what a dragon looks like.
And yes, in reference to the-
Pippi Longstocking days.
Loved Pippi Longstocking.
In reference to the never ending story, Valcor,
that does look, it could resemble a llama,
not the shape, but the fluffy white face.
Yes, I guess.
So I can give you, I'm trying to save you,
not saving me.
Do you think being a dad has changed you?
And if so, how?
Has it changed me?
Yeah, it's definitely changed me.
It's definitely like made me more grounded
and like all like, instead of focusing like
my energy on a lot of other things,
I'm like all about obviously my daughter.
I mean, that's just like what it is.
That's what you have to be.
Yeah.
So you're taking care of, I mean, it's definitely,
like I always thought I would have like five children
and this and that.
And so long ago, I couldn't even imagine
handling five children.
So.
It's hard.
Once you become a parent, you're like, oh damn, okay.
Yeah.
But it's definitely, I feel like,
it's definitely given me a lot of responsibility because you're taking care of another human.
You got to make sure this human becomes, not becomes, there's no pressure, but you're looking
after another child and then you have to focus on this other person's feelings and there's
so much that goes into it and like what's going on in this person's
Life for the day or if this person's having a bad day
Like not only do you have to focus on if you're having a bad day and fix that then you got to fix your child's
Whatever is going on in their life. So it's just it's definitely a lot
I love it. I love it. I um, well you are the best dad
well, thank you, I'm very lucky dream makes it very easy, she's very smart and
She's a good kid, but she is it's still very hard. Like it's just hard and it's a girl. So it's like
I'm dealing with like, you know a woman's feelings and stuff. So, okay. She's not a woman yet. It's tough. I'm dealing with like, you know,
a woman's feelings and stuff, so.
Okay, she's not a woman yet.
Let's calm down.
I mean, she's a woman.
Can you imagine when she is?
Oh my God.
Well, I mean, she's a woman like her.
I know.
She's a female, sorry.
And doing like the hair and I get it.
It's very different.
I'm all about women empowerment, so.
Woo woo.
Your love life, do you have a dating life
or do you not date?
I just talk to people.
You talk to a lot of people.
Rob. I do.
People think Rob might be a recluse,
but let me tell you, Rob still
gets around. It's wild. I've never seen anything like it. Teach me your ways.
I mean, I'm good at talking to people, but also like there's come moments where I'm like, okay, I can't talk to anybody.
It's too much like energy. It's just too much. I'm talking to too many people.
I don't want to be like that. And also I have a daughter. I'm like, I'm trying to be a good
example. I'm not trying to, I don't bring girls in the house. I don't have girls meet
my daughter. I don't.
It's very responsible of you.
But I've always been that since she was a baby. So I've been single. She's eight years
old. I've been single for eight years, you know, since she's been born. And it's just like, yes, of course I've dated and stuff, but I've never gotten serious or wanted to,
or I've just, my energy is just into dreams. That's just like what, you know, and it's probably,
I'm probably too strict with that. Like I probably should have fun and enjoy my life and stuff, but
I mean, I still have fun and I enjoy my life
I just don't care to like be dating somebody honestly unless it just happens
I get it, but I definitely talk to
Talk to people. I just don't I'm not out here going on dates and like, yeah, sometimes I do but I really
Prefer not to I get it. I prefer none of that.
Last question.
Is there anything you want people to know about you?
Or are you fine with what they know?
Good.
I'm fine with them knowing or thinking
whatever they want, I don't care.
That doesn't bother me what people assume or, you know.
Good for you, Bobby.
Yeah, man.
Just take it one day at a time.
That's all we can do.
We'll take it one day at a time.
Thanks for answering some of those questions.
Yeah, thank you for asking them.
Yeah, you're welcome.
Toodles.
Bye.
So I feel like I have hopefully cleared up just enough rumors, but maybe not all of them
so we can keep them going.
You never know.
Hopefully I gave you guys some clarity or answers and you feel better about these.
Probably won't make a difference, but that's okay.
I hope you enjoyed me bantering back and forth with myself.