Khloé in Wonder Land - Someone had to say it ft. Morgan Stewart

Episode Date: March 11, 2026

TV personality, fashion commentator, and podcast host Morgan Stewart joins Khloé for a wildly honest and funny conversation about life after reality TV, motherhood, and why she’s never been afraid to say exactly what she thinks. They get into parenting chaos, podcast life, public scrutiny, and Morgan’s brutally honest fashion commentary. Plus: astrology compatibility, raising kids in LA, and why girls really do need sisters!Episode Sponsors:It’s time you get the support that actually reflects your needs. Start your free intake at https://www.forhers.com We’ve worked out a special offer for my audience! Receive 30% off your first subscription order. Go to https://www.armra.com/KHLOE or enter KHLOE to get 30% off your first subscription order.Shop at https://www.REVOLVE.com/KHLOE and use code KHLOE for 15% off your first order. #REVOLVEpartnerOllie. Feed the Obsession. Go to https://www.ollie.com/wonderland and use code wonderland to get 60% off your first box!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Oh my God, I'm just playing with them now, yeah. Oh, my God, I'm just playing with them. You look in, seeing this fucking body. I cannot. Being a podcaster is not easy. Oh, my God, it's so not easy. I always say, like, steer the train. Or the bus, whatever the bus this is.

I'm like, we're off the tracks. I think people find you so refreshing with your honesty. You're not being mean. You're just saying, what the fuck is she wearing? And not only does she look like, she's paying people to make her. look like. Correct. Who the a is dressing her? You love to know people's signs. Love. What's your

rising? Do you know your rising? I don't. How have you been on TV for 50 years and you don't know your rising sign? You could Google it. Do astrochart Chloe Kardashian. We'll get it right now. I got pregnant two and a half months after I gave birth. Crazy. And I love that the gas big in the room when you said that. Everyone's like, you gotta keep that out.

Are we good on karma? Like, why do they keep testing us so much? I don't know. I'm like, we're good. people, right? Right? We don't even have the freedom to crumble. Whoa, that was, are you going to cut that? That was crazy. The freedom to crumble is your book title. I am so excited to have Miss Morgan Stort on Chloe in Wonderland. I'm so happy to be here. Thank you. Well, can I tell you? I told you this off camera and I'm going to let everyone know now. I knew. First of all, I wanted to be on so badly because I knew the life. lighting was not going to fucking play around. No, we don't play here. No, I knew. It is lit to the team. If I could walk around with all of this, I would. I was like, where does the budget go?

Lighting. Yeah. Lighting. I literally have been recording my, whatever we're early in, in my podcast. The lighting is so terrible. It's like recording it like a right aid. Why? There's no budget. Yeah. There will be. That's terrifying a right aid. What, I'm so excited for your podcast. I think it's going to be really good. Not to plug that so fucking early by the way. I don't care. I know. I love desperation. Can you? I was just like. Can you. I I literally was so thirsty about that. I always get questions. Like, how did you and I meet?

And I think I have a memory. But I don't know if it's like the real memory. I don't know. How did we meet? So my version is more through like Rob, because Rob was friends with Roxy. Yes. So that's the reality. That's the reality.

Okay. I was like, is this true? But this was pre, I think you even having the show. Yes. So Rob, my brother, had. a best friend named Roxy that he went to Buckley with. So like elementary school. And then college. Then college. And they were besties. And then Roxy became friends with you. Yeah. First year of college. We were very close. Yes. So I just remember I met you with Rob. Right. And then you and I have like always been like digital friends. Digital friends. But like big ass supporters of one another. Like I would be like, yeah, Morgan's my friend. But they're like, when have you seen her? I'm like, oh, now.

Never. But we're best friends. What are you talking about? We don't hang. We don't talk. But we DM. That's my favorite kind of friendship. Completely. I don't fucking have the energy for a high maintenance friendship. Also, we're adults now. We don't have time. We're really tired. Not only that, people that don't check their DMs or don't respond, you're not that busy. No, you're not that busy. You're not that busy.

Sometimes it takes me, because I take social media at breaks, but. once I'm on there, I'm checking everything and responding to everyone. But also, don't put this much pressure on anyone people. Ever. Ever. Like, where have you been? When are we doing? Shut the fuck up. Like, we have jobs. We have kids. We have relationships. We have families. Also, even going out, I cannot go out more than once a week. Yeah. If I want to function. Agreed. I had some friends in town last week. I went out three, three different nights. I thought I went to Coachella and like do cocaine off the ground. I was so exhausted. No, it's different.

It's different. It's very different. So I am aligned with you and people that are like, oh, a last minute plan? There's absolutely no last minute plans. I don't understand that. No way. Right now I'm getting texts from my sister and two of our friends and they're like, do you want to meet for lunch right now? I'm like, where are you people?

Like what planet? It's a Tuesday. Aren't we busy? They're like, oh, something fell through. I'm like, I'm busy. At least put some respect on mining. Literally. And also you're like, we have a job. You have multiple jobs.

Don't we all, I feel like at this point? Yeah. Yes. Oh my God. No. And that's so funny because I was even thinking on the way. Okay, we met with Rob. But then I think even when I was doing rich kids, I don't think we even really cross paths. We literally were digital then too. Yeah. Super. Yeah. So here we are. Loved it. Yeah. Well, hi bestie. Hi best. I know. We're going to make this. We're going to once a year, we'll do like an in person. We'll do this. Six months in advance. We'll like make a plan. And then if we need a cancel it. I'll go on your pod. And then like, like, Like these could be our yearly situations. Okay. I didn't even have to ask. But can we get panel lighting? You know what we need to do? We'll bring this guy.

Well, I was going to say we need to do it here and then put a logo or something because I rather not. We could switch these out. You know my mom does that. And she's like, can I use your studio space? And I'm like, sure, it was someone up. But she like switches these out. Because I like your lighting. I'm like, whatever you say, Chris Jenner.

By the way. Yeah. She really. What does it even like to have a mom that iconic? You know. Well, she, I will say I have an iconic mom, but Chris, can I tell you the most random fact that just came to my mind? What? You guys? So I haven't, or I have had an older brother, seven years older than me. I was going through two months ago, his yearbook, Kim and my brother were in the same kindergarten class. No. At El Rodeo. I'm telling you Kim would remember, too. How we, I saw, we were looking in the book and she, I was like, is it? And I was like, there's not more than one Kim Kardashian. That was the most random, like she looks just like Chicago in her.

you'd be like, is that Chicago? They look like twins. Like twins. But that was so random. That is so random. Yeah. So I guess like energetically we've been circling each other for many lives. Very Beverly Hills. Very. Very. So for you, Miss Morgan, yes. You've been on reality TV since 2014. 24th. Yeah, Jesus, 2014. That's so long ago. Like so long ago, it's so crazy that I even like people still remember it. Because we did, what? Well, we did four seasons. Yeah. Remember when we started, they were like, we're going to put you after the Kardashian, so you have a shot in hell. That's what they said. They were like, you're not going to survive, but if we put you on, you guys were nine on Sundays or 10?

We were. Nine. It was nine east, yes. Nine east. Okay, so we were on directly after you. And I remember thinking, like, if the only shot we have is to only be after this one show, like, we're fucked. We ended up doing four seasons.

And then that was the end of that. Why do you think it stopped? Because it was great. And it still, oh, my God, I think it is so funny. Don't you see the clips on TikTok? Oh my God. What was I doing? What was I doing? Been there. But I love a good glow up. I would rather be better now than then. No, that's true. Also, like my biggest advice to like young girls is really to stay as ugly as you can for as long as you can. It's true, right? Because if you're beautiful at 25, you're a dog at 35. That's true. You need to be ugly, ugly, ugly and then be like, oh, all the pretty, it's like when you had pretty friends when they were like 12.

No one was pretty at 12. No. Kim Kardashian is the only pretty 12 year old. And she's maintained. it. Yes. That's the only person and I'm not saying that because that's your sister. It's just a fact. No, I mean. It's the truth. I say it to her all the time. It sucks. So it's hard to like, you know, be pretty when you're young and then also pretty when you're old. Yeah. So the globe is good. Yeah. But Rich Good's, yeah, I think it ended because the, I think management or whoever was working there at the time was like, once I got married, they were like, we don't know where else this show's going to go. That's crazy. It was a mistake. It was a mistake. Yeah. I still think it stands, like I stand behind it. I think now, like people also miss the, I'm going to say the

older versions of reality TV because it was so real and it was so ridiculous. And now everyone has to be so thoughtful about every single thing they say. Like, I still film, but it's not the same filming. Like even what we're so afraid to shoot or to go to certain, like, are we offending someone? Are we doing something like the overthinking of everything is just not normal. You don't come across that way. Oh, thank you. I will say, like, I obviously still watch the show. I love it.

Thank God it's still on the air. And you feel very the same way. Obviously, like, the sets are better lit and it's just like a different time in your life. But everything still feels like we're getting a true glimpse of you guys. You guys are, but it's way more confined. Right. Like I loved when we could be more free and like go to real stores and do like little things that I think just allowed for a better banter, better, like, I just, I just miss the old

authenticity of it all. But could you do that now? Because you also have risen in fame. I know. It's sort of both. You can't like just walk around really, can you? Not really. No.

Yeah. But still I miss all those. I know. I miss all those. I know. Do you miss taping reality TV? I think what you just said is probably, I haven't thought about it in depth, really. I think I would have preferred to maybe stay on two more.

two more seasons, three more seasons to really figure ourselves out. I think things would have evolved in a really good way. And I feel like if I were to do reality TV now, I'm so protective of like my marriage, children, as you know, like being a mom. I don't want to just like, I couldn't be as free as I wanted. So I think it's probably better not to do that. So I miss the days where I could just talk shit and talk freely and like be on my camera and just feel good about it. Right. I've gotten so in my own head about everything just from everyone. Right. And like I envy you and like I see the things you're doing and you're just commenting or even it could be as silly as not even your voice when you're literally typing out your feelings about red carpet looks. And I'm dying. Thank you. Thank you. Cackling on the other end of my phone just because I'm reading it in your voice. You're so good at all of that stuff. Thank you. I feel like I mean, you're a television star. Then you did a podcast. I always felt like I was going to be on TV and then maybe have a podcast because not everyone can be on TV. But everyone can have a podcast. I don't think so.

And I think you're right. I'm starting to like change my mind on that. But I feel like there was something like really accessible about having a podcast that I was like. Everyone could have one by meaning you can set it up yourself and do that. I don't think all of them can sustain. Like I think you are a personality. Thank you. And no matter what platform that is, I think it will resonate.

Thank you. You've really instilled the confidence in me. It's been going well. We had to. I also think like a lot has happened over the last three years. Obviously the shows got canceled three years ago, the shows I was doing on E. A lot happened personally in my life. And I was like mentally and physically not in a place to take anything on.

And actually in the midst of that, I shot a pilot. And I was so physically anxious on the day. I could not settle. I didn't feel right after my kids for a really long time. I don't know if you went through that. Like physically just not stable. I felt weird. And I remember thinking like, why is this not easy?

Why is this not working out? And every, you know, we did the bullshit. Like we pitched it to every. when everyone was like, we love you. You're so funny, but it's just not the time. Talks hard now, or whatever the fuck they said. And I was like, okay, go fuck yourself, fine. And then literally eight months ago, my agent was like, are you ready for a podcast? And I was like, well, I guess TV's not working out, so let's do it. And now I've found like, this is definitely the right medium. I think so. Yeah. And I think everything happens for a reason. And you have been through a lot.

Yeah. And I think that's also hard sometimes you can't see it for yourself. But you're almost in a place that that could have been super damaging for you. And they could have, and I'm not saying all producers are like this, but sometimes they would pray on that. And you lost your father three years ago. Yeah. You know what that's like. Yeah. It's awful. It is awful. And I was in no place. I mean, I was 19. And thank God there was no cameras around me. Oh, my God. But, you know, I think it's probably the biggest blessing you didn't do that. Because I do remember even when I did my show, one of my producers would then me sit in the room and do interviews about my dad and I would be sobbing and they're like, you can't leave until you're done with these interviews.

What the fuck? But that's how it is. And when you're all so young, and especially back then now, I don't think they would do that to anyone, but back then. And it was therapeutic after. Right. Okay. So you felt better like getting all that out.

Yeah, I did. But at the time I was so angry. I was like, what the fuck? Why are we talking about this? And I recently saw, you said that he, was this on the show that you said he hasn't come to you in a dream? No, my dad hasn't. You need once.

Only once. But it's also terrible almost. He's almost maybe protecting you because I feel like when I was in the dream, I was like, oh my God. Like, you know, this person feels very real to you and you're interacting with them as though they're alive. But then you wake up and you're so disoriented and you're like, wait, wait, come back. So it's almost like he knows how sensitive you are and he's probably like, but you should speak to my medium. He will blow your mind. I met with Teresa Caputo.

She's just legendary. And she says, like, I can't just pick up on you. Like, if there's other people in the room, I might, like, their person might come through and I might pick up. And you're just like, whatever, whatever. And she picked up on so many people in the room. It was so beautiful. Everyone was, like, sobbing in a great way. She said, my dad, everyone receives things differently.

And just because my dad doesn't come to me in a dream, he's coming to me in other ways. 100%. But have you been told what signs to look for at all? No, but I like the heart. So she was like, do you see, he says that he sends you hearts everywhere. And I see hearts, all this. Like there could be hearts like a rock-shaped heart that like shouldn't be there like in a tree. Okay.

And then right, I didn't say this to you, but right after one of my girlfriends dropped me off a late Christmas gift. And she gave me such a tiny little heart diamond ring. It was the most random thing. And it was red. Like it was none of these colors. I was like, it was just so random. Right. And I was like, the fucking heart.

It was so weird. And that was after we did the show. But it was all, I believe in all of that. I'm going to set you up with him. Yes. I would love it. It'll be really unbelievable. And you'll be like, you'll take away something from that that you haven't from anything else.

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just so tired of living in that reality. And I was with my mom yesterday. She was breaking down. I mean, she's lost her husband and her only son. I mean, I was going to ask you, how is your mom? I think she's... Because they were married. They, so my brother, this is even I get disoriented. So my mom was married before my dad had my brother. Then my mom obviously married my dad had me. So we had different dads. My parents were married when my dad died. Right. And then my brother's dad is still alive and their friends. And then he died in July. And I remember I was in Tuscany with my husband and some friends. And she called me, she's like, I have bad news. your brother has pneumonia, and I vividly remember being like, is he going to die? Or something about

dying came into my mind, like, very strongly. And I had always thought, like, okay, this person is going to be somebody I'm going to have to look after when my mom is, he needs care, right? He has people in his head telling him to kill himself every day. Like, it's horrific, this disease. And I remember just having that thought. And she called me the last night of my vacation two days later hysterically crying and was like, your brother died. And I was like, oh, but my dad just died. Right. Like that's inconvenient. We can't just have everyone dying. This is crazy. No, it's no laugh because it's fucking crazy. You just position it so humorously. I'm like, oh my name. And they're probably laughing at me right now being like, oh yeah. But yeah, it's been a really heavy time. And I've only been with my husband married for five years. And it's like we've also gone through so much in a short time.

Yeah. You have. But also beautiful. Beautiful. Because it shows how strong your marriage is. Yeah. You know, he's obviously a ride or die for you. Oh, he's been amazing. Yeah. It's been, I mean, some of the most surreal, we were just at my dad's funeral.

Now we were just at my brother's funeral. And I don't even now. And two kids. And the two kids. I mean, that already is so much work. Being there for your mom. Being there for my mom. And even now, like, she's having a really rough time as expected.

But she's been so strong. And she's gotten up and gotten dressed every day and really like trudged. ahead. So now to see her not feeling, she's manifesting it physically, she's not feeling that well today specifically. She's at the doctor right now. And that even I'm like, well, she's going to be okay? Right. Like is everyone dying? Right. It's very strange. Well, I'm assuming you have so much trauma from it and now you're going to hear anything and that's going to trigger you. Yeah. So that's where your head's going to go first. Right. And that's the thing. And then I was like, should I have had more kids? Because how nice is it that you have so many siblings to be around for

whatever happens. Right. You know, I have two, which is, I think, enough. But like, you know, it's nice to have a big support system. I was just talking about this. It really is. So I have my two. Yes. Tristan and I were like in and out of being in a relationship when we chose to have Tatum. Right. But really, it wasn't, like, we weren't even in like a great place me and Tristan, but I was like, I'm doing this more for true. Like, I need her to have a sibling. That was the right choice, by the way, obviously. It was. But now I'm like, I have a good. I have a good. I have a girl in the freezer. Do you do it? Do I do it? Do I have the bandwidth? I don't know. You do. But like my mom had six. I'm like if she could do it, we can do it. We can do it. That's crazy. I think you.

So in the, do you, but you wouldn't have to carry. I wouldn't carry just because, yeah, just that. Because why would you? Well, yeah, I just don't, I don't know. Why? No. I know with Tatum, I was unable to carry. I haven't. checked recently, but I'm assuming, same thing. But with Tatum, they said it was too high risk. And with her, she's my only girl embryo. So they might suggest the same thing. But either way. Oh, I think you're going to have another kid. Why? Because I don't know. I just... What happened to your boo? I just got a little chit. Like, I just felt like I, when you said girl, I was like, I see true having a sister. I just feel like girls need sisters. Do you have a sister? I don't have a sister.

And you need a sister, especially like the more like in life now, I wish so badly because girls are fucking nasty. Girls are nasty. And as you get older, it's harder to trust people and like people. Yeah. Because people are weird. People are weird. People are fucking fucked up. And fucking insane. Yeah. So I was like, I really wish Roe, but then I was like, if I don't have an embryo, but I don't want to happen. I physically don't want to do that again. It's a lot. It's a lot. But I agree with what you said, how afterwards, the mind fuck it is mentally on you and people don't give women enough. tolerance and grace for the transition afterwards. I literally was like up here and then down here. I was not sad, but I physically, my thyroid totally bottomed out.

I've said that so many times I want to kill myself. But it's like, oh my God, how many times you can talk about this fucking thyroid issue? But I was, I was like, I had tremors. I could not sit still because my body was so off. And even like now I'm very sensitive if like I don't eat a certain amount. When I was working on rich kids, I ate like nothing and had a Coke and did 12-hour days. Now I'm like, being young. Being young. I know. But then I know so many girls my age that are like have no problem. I'm like, is there not bread on the table? I'm going to die. I'm going to die. Jessica's like my sister's literally like, I'm like, do we have packs of protein I can suck on right now? Yes. No, I'm the same. But I'm more like, can someone get me a dairy queen? Stat. I told my mother-in-law I was coming on. She said, I love her. I love her. She's so gorgeous. I love her. She's they're just, to me, they're not even like famous people. Like, obviously he's quite famous. They're just so fucking. They're just so fucking.

normal. Yeah. Eat and pie or doing whatever the fuck they're doing together. Like, he calls her mom. She calls him dad. Hey, mom. It's so cute. It's so cute. Like, I've obviously been around them in very intimate settings. They're just like normal Texan pho. Like, they're just-love it. Very sweet. And my mother-in-law, I got so lucky with her. She is so supportive of me. So nice. You know, I mean, I don't know if I'm going to be that nice to my son's girl. I don't know either. I don't think so. Yeah. I think it just depends on the girl. It is. Yeah. I don't think anyone. is going to be good enough. I know. Let alone, like, are you giving her your shit? No way. But you also have to get on board. Yeah. Because the son can leave. The son will leave. Yeah. So you have to like,

keep them close. Yeah. And be like, I love her. But hopefully you really will. Wow, that really stresses me out. I know. Then we have to deal with their mom. And then who's going to do the wedding stuff? But I think in like our position, we trump that right. Like, no, that mom's not going to plan anything. So they don't have a clue. Yeah. No, I just think we do it. Yeah. I was like, you don't have this lighting. And you just are like, I will take this stress off of you. And I will pay for all of it. Right. Because I don't need like a purple orchid in the mix or something. I'll kill myself. Right. Yeah. No. No lifelong photos like that. That's horrible. I know I'm stressed out about that. Yeah. Well, you have some time. Being on TV, do you feel like people still associate you with that Morgan store? Do they think that's like all you are, if that makes sense? I think even more now. because obviously, like, we did rich kids. And now my life, I think, to people feel so much bigger and real in a way. Like, a camera's not around so it's not performative.

I think people have seen me evolve. How do I want to answer that question? I think coming back to the podcast, people are going to see, like, oh, shit, life has really happened to this girl. Like, we know her one way and that's very much a part of who she is. But she's now come out the other side of some really heavy shit. and she's more grounded, more serious. I think people think I'm a little probably meaner or less caring than I am. Really? Why do you think that? Or maybe I have a false vision of who I am publicly.

I think you do. Okay, good. So I seem nice. Yeah. Okay, good. I think people find you to be like so refreshing with your honesty. Thank you. Because like that doesn't like that's even something I miss about myself. Like it's just not there anymore because everyone wants to talk shit and do that. Like, people are like finally, like someone who's still not afraid to be honest and you're not being mean. You're just saying what the fuck is she wearing? She looks like shit. But like she does. She does look like shit. And not only does she look like shit, she's paying people to make her look like shit. Correct. Why is that happening? Emily Blunt, I love her. I love her so much. She's our queen. She's coming out. Who the fuck is dressing her? I don't know those things. I,

It really just, it's so easy. And sometimes I'm like, should I be a professional stylist? You don't want to do that. I don't want to do that. No. That's hell. Yeah. And if someone leaves me, I'll be like, yeah, you're like, are you dumb? What's wrong with you? Yeah. No, I think people love watching you. Thank you. But what I mean is I think that people, what I'm excited about you for. Yes. Is that people get to see you more multifaceted. And I think from what I think is people are like, oh, Morgan, lives this like very cushy life and she loves fashion and blah blah blah like those things are all true but there's also 20 other things about you true that I think especially like you're such a hard worker and I don't think people realize that about you this we okay no but like even like I remember

when you did Morgan stort sport yes am I right yeah okay and like you were like hustling and trying and doing that. Then you're like, you know what, I'm going to scrap this. Let me revamp it. And then Wrangali. Yeah, Wrangly. But you know what's so funny? Everybody says Rengali. And I, if, can I tell you, if I didn't, if it wasn't mine, I would also say that. And sometimes I'm like, we should call it that because it feels very exotic. Rangley. Rangley. But like how you do things, you put your heart and your soul into them. And I think if you were just some, like, pillow princess, you would just be letting, you wouldn't care. You'd be like, whatever, I just want to have something for the sake of saying I have it.

Right. But you're in there. You're hustling. And you're all those other things, too. You can still have this beautiful life. You can still be a mom of two. You can still being a podcaster is not easy. Oh my God.

It's so not easy. Having a guest on is insane. No, it's insane. It really is. Like, I'm like, I have to talk to Morgan for an hour and sounds smart. No, it's hard. No, it really is. And I'm so empathetic because I get stressed out for the host.

I'm like, you don't want to ambush, but you're also like, it is so hard to talk to anybody for an hour. But just like to, I always say like steer the train or the bus, whatever the fuck this is. I'm like, we're off the tracks. I've been like listening sometimes and I'm like, that's great. And then I'm like, oh, shit, I'm supposed to ask another question. Another question. I don't know. But also it's also abnormal to have to stay in conversation.

I talked to my own mother on my podcast two weeks ago and I was like, are we getting a fucking break? I need to take a break. I need to take a breath. I'm exhausted. Just gather my thoughts. What did we just talk about? Like in my head, I'm like, okay, check, check. No, can I tell you honestly, prior to what we just started talking about, I don't remember what we were saying. I don't have a clue what we talked about. Not clue. No, I black out because I'm like, okay. We got this. It's 22 minutes. Okay. I know. I know. It's freaking me out. And I'm thinking like, you have to come on my podcast. I'm like, what the fuck else are we going to talk about. Well, then you get to be stressed and I don't. Exactly.

Yes. You're right. I am surprised that you have that negative perception of yourself from what you think the public things because I see something, don't you? I feel like even Alexa was like, have you seen her TikTok? She's so fucking funny. I love you. Thank you. First of all, I want to just clear up ankle gate. Ankle boot gate. Angle boots are okay if they're covered, but you can't wear a skirt in an ankle boot. It doesn't look good on anybody. No. No one. You don't need to have cancels, but you will. You will. Yeah. It's not hard. I do have ankle boots, but I wear them under like slacks or jeans. Because you don't want the lines up here, but I do agree. You cannot. That's very like 2009. Very. Like people would wear ankle boots. It's also like 1999.

Oh. Is that, I don't even know how old I was at that way, but it doesn't matter. I think I was 15. Yeah. But yeah. That was good math. I couldn't even. You gave me 10 grand. I'd be like. I know that I was 16 and 2000. That's all I know. That's all I know. And I don't know why. Okay, I have to admit something. I have fully become one of those people who is obsessed with their dog, like truly disgustingly obsessed. Since getting my new puppy peppermint, I swear my camera roll is basically just photos of her. My friends will ask for pictures of the kids and I'm like, okay, hold on, I got to scroll up because do you want photos of peppermint? And if you're a dog parent, you know the feeling. They are family. You want the best for them, especially when it comes to what they're eating. That's one of the reasons I love Ollie. Their fresh recipes

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I would say, well, like on a global scale, like, I feel like people, the people that know me, know me, but not everybody know, like, that's fair, right? No, but not everybody knows who I am. So my point in bringing that up is I don't, I don't, I'm not getting scrutiny on a huge level, right? I know, but I think anything is overwhelming. If there's any sort of like something that's like inaccurate or people are making nasty comments, I will say I've been pretty lucky where I haven't gotten a lot of it. People won't say it to my face and they won't write it, but they'll talk about it behind my back.

It's more of that. But yeah, I definitely don't want to have for me, number one is a calm nervous system. So anything that's going to derail that I don't do well with. Do you feel the need to set the record straight if there is? is something false about you? Like, would you publicly say it? I think it really depends on what it is. I think I know, I've learned to like let things go.

Because if you start getting into the weeds with people who already have a certain perception of you that's not real. Right. Why even, it's like trying to be friends with somebody who doesn't like you. Yeah. They're already committed to that. They're committed to that and I don't care. And also I live in my truth, which is I have a wonderful life.

I know I'm a really good person. There's people in my life now that I feel like I distance with that like are, are hell bent on thinking this person is not a good person. And I just now I'm like, okay, we're not meant to be in each other's lives. That's fine. That is the beauty of getting older. Totally. You're like, and therapy. It's a lot. I'm not going to argue with an idiot. We're good. We're good. Do whatever you want. Yeah. However you want to think about me, that's totally fine. Do you think you've always been so deeply self-aware? Yes. Always. I've always had a really good sense of self. I know my faults. I know my flaws. I'm not like, oh, I don't do that.

I maybe don't realize how strong I come across sometimes and maybe unintentionally mean like dealing with certain things. If I'm like talking to my husband, sometimes I'm a little sharp and I don't mean to be that way. But I know pretty well like this is a good thing about me. This is not such a good thing about me. And I could work on X, Y, and Z. Like you're someone, you love to know people's signs. Love. And you love like an energized type of person.

Do you follow that intuition? like even if it's someone's sign. Like do you really like, okay, I'm a cancer. If you're like, you're a cancer, I know these traits about you and do you go off of that? Yeah, I feel like for me it's more like if I have a difficult time speaking to somebody or not getting along with them, I usually ask their sign more. The only sign that sticks out that I'm like, okay, this is challenging is Pisces. But as of lately, as of late, I've really started to like, I have a lot of Pisces I really love. So I'm evolving.

But yes, I do think the signs are very accurate. Every, like. Pisces and I get along so fucking well. Cancer and Pisces. But what's your rising? Do you know your rising? I don't. How have you been on TV for 50 years and you don't know your rising sign?

What was Tristan? Pisces. My dad's a Pisces. My brother's at Pisces. The twins are Pisces. Rob is very funny too. Rob is very funny. And Rob is very emotional, which is a Pisces.

Male Pisces are very different than female Pisces. I think every female Pisces I've had difficulty. But Rob weirdly is one of the funniest people I've ever met. No, he is. and dry. Yes. You're like, is he joking or not? He's so fucking funny.

Yeah, he's so funny. From when we were 15, he's like, no, that you look bad there. He was just always very, yeah, okay. He's so fucking funny. He really is. Do we know it? I think Gemini. I knew, fucking, what is it?

Gemini Rising? Oh, so all your emotions and like how you project to the world is Gemini. No, I'm Gemini. And can I tell you when you have, listen to me, I'm Gemini's son. my husband is Gemini Moon. When your moon sign is the same as someone's sun sign, you're very compatible, which is why we've probably had like this digital like courtship romance for all these years because there's an energy. What's the rising? Sun and cancer, moon and Gemini rising is then an Aquarius. Oh my God. I know nothing about an Aquarius. Air sign. So you have a lot of air in

your chart. Aquarius, both of my kids are Aquarius. Aquarius people who have Aquarius placements are meant to be famous. Here you are. And Gemini also. kids do? What's the, what's, when Haley did it, the other day, I almost killed myself. I was like, oh, I can't. What's the Venus? And then I'm done. If it's in Pisces, I'll die. Jessica's at Pisces, but we still hired her. It's in cancer. What's the Venus mean? How you love. Aw. But cancer. I can see that I would love like a cancer. And how you are with your family and your friends and how nurturing and stuff like that. Yeah. It's, I wish I was more not. No. Embrace it. So many few people are like that? I have to. But God, sometimes I'm like, fuck, I'll just die for everyone and no one will die

for me. It's crazy. I love how much you know about that. And I just know that's the person you are. And by the way, I can't believe you're Gemini-moon. I don't know why I've never looked up your sign. I don't know what this all means. But we're going to get a fault. Yeah. Let's talk about motherhood and like parenting in L.A. Oh, God, in L.A. Yeah. Bucked up, huh? Yeah. Isn't it? It's so. crazy. I don't know why. I feel like when I've, maybe I'm not watching the right ones, but I don't think people ask you enough about motherhood. And I don't know if that's off limits to you. Not at all. I think what it is is I don't, I'm not like that mom that's like leading with her children. They're around. They're part of my life, obviously every day all day. But I'm not like,

look how cute my kid is. Yeah. I throw it up naturally. So I think there's some people that like aren't even sure if I have kids. Stop. I mean. Or I don't lead as like mom first. It's the best thing I've ever done. It's the hardest thing I've ever done. They're very close in age. Yeah, they are. They're very close in age. So I got pregnant two and a half months after I gave birth. Crazy. It was. But not intentionally. Not it was, we weren't even like done and I was pregnant. I was like, what? And I love that the gas big in the room when you said that. Everyone's like, you got to keep that up. I literally got pregnant in May both times. I found out with my son, June, like late June. And I, I, I just remember, like, I peed on the test.

I looked away for a second. And Jordan was like, don't pretend it's positive. Like, you're just tired. We have a newborn baby. Right. And I looked away for a split second. It was on the floor. And I looked back and I was like, it's positive.

He's like, no, bitch, it's not. I was like, no, it is. We took a hundred. Stop. And I remember going to the doctor. And she's like, you're due February 17th. And I was like, no, that's Rose. She's like, no.

Same day? So I was like, no, Rose is 16th. I think you're confusing. And she was like, no, I was there. So she is broke. No. And I was like, but I can't have another baby. I had had all these thyroid. And I was in literally, I was in Napa in the beginning of June before I had found out my, I found out my thyroid stuff was really effed up. I was pregnant. I didn't know it. And we went to like. Yeah, as one does. I was drinking all weekend. I remember feeling like I was withdrawing from meth. I could not sit still. I couldn't. I was so panicked and physically unwell. And finally they were like, oh, you're pregnant. So I. had Roe got pregnant with Gray. I had Rose's first birthday party from 8 to 12 and at 1.30, we checked into the hospital and I gave birth to my son at 10 o'clock that night. So are they born? They're one year to the day, or one year and a day, excuse me. Oh my gosh. And he is the 17th of February. That's like stormy and

air. One's February 1st, once February 2nd. Yeah. That's so crazy. It's crazy. And I feel like myself as of four months ago. Oh, well, that's good. Yeah, took a long. Isn't he three? He's going to be four and she's going to be five. Wow. And I really, I mean, you just can't cheat the body. It was a lot. No. Physically, it was so much on me. And I like, I didn't feel well for a long time. Do you believe in peptides? I, by the way, I'm signing up. I just had so many. I'm obsessed. Okay, but I had had some blood sugar stuff. So I was worried to start, I would be shooting shit in places I didn't know I had if I could. I don't want to feel bad though. Yeah. No. These are, so like they take your blood and they, so it's personal to you. Oh, okay. I didn't know that. I think peptides would make you feel better. I want to feel better. And I also

want to like, I don't want to look as, I feel like I look tired too. No, you look beautiful. Thank you. But it's, I get how you feel. Yeah. I'm exhausted all the time. All the time. And I'll say, like, if I'm not feeling right, I'm like, God, I'm still feeling so tired. And he'll be like, okay, let me up this. Like, he will, he's great. Shout out to Dr. George. She's going to love this. You look. You look great. Thank you. I'm like, wait, we forgot about the kids and the family. We're talking about our aesthetic. Our aesthetic. Oh, the kids. I love the kids. The children. We love the children. No, but I will answer your question about parenting in L.A. Yeah. I'm getting my daughter into kindergarten now. Oh, my gosh. Big step. It is fucking crazy. Oh, my gosh. It is. No, no, no. It is. We didn't. We just showed up, right? Like our mom just were like. Oh, you had to do like all the essays. Yeah. No, no, no. First of all, my husband did it. I can't like write a grammatically correct sentence. That's crazy. Fucking nuts. Six schools, six interviews, six solo interviews with Roe, six group interviews with Roe. That's insane. Six different schools events. It is wild in these streets. So hopefully she fucking gets in or she can't live at my house anymore. No. Or you're kicked out of everything. She's fucking gone. But the pressure they put on these little kids in a little

It's crazy. To, like, draw a family, write her name. I'm like, I didn't know how to write my name until I was like nine. Do you do carpool? Of course. Well, I mean, I bring my kids. I don't have like other people in the car. Is that we even?

Yeah. Just like drive them. Yes. Yeah, I drive them. I make them dinner. I'm like very that way. You are? I am.

How cute. Yeah, people don't think that about me. But I do make them dinner. I'm very hands-on that way. Lunch in the morning. Not every morning. But I really try to be like. Well, lunch is in the middle of the day.

Well, I'm saying like I make their lunch. I'm just kidding. What do you love to cook? I cook everything. I make like, I'll do roasted chicken. I'll make lamb chops. I'll make pasta. I love that. Like just like very like easy but like healthy stuff. No, but great. Yeah. I know you love to throw a party and like I love the decor. You need to come to a part. I do. I'm going to give a lot of warning, a lot of zhing and we're going to get you to a party. Done. Done. That I can do. Yeah. Yes. I love Alexa. Good. Even better. But I love. Where is that place? that you throw. That's Jordan Studio. Love it. So he's like a two-story, like, office studio space. And I do all that myself. No, I know.

I do all that myself. I don't know, but I could tell. Like, it's, because you're, I know from the way you're posting it. I, yeah, I love you. Like, you're so proud. And I'm like, fuck yeah. It takes, I've set that table myself. It is.

That's really where, like, I get turned on. I know. Yeah. I know. Like, the forks are straight. I mean, we use the same. I got, like, these Christmas plates. And I use them every single year.

But I start with like, I go and get the tablecloth. And then we do like the floral inspo. I mean, it's only like 35 people max. But the fact that you know how to, so many people don't know how to do that. Like my mom taught me how to do that stuff. So I get so turned on when there's someone else that knows how to do that stuff. That's like a generational thing. Yeah.

Like so weirdly so much of your mom reminds me of my mom. Same. And it's like, I think it's just a time. And to know they were like around each other in Beverly Hills at that time like when it was really fabulous. Really fabulous. Now it's a dump. It really is. It is. It's very upsetting. It makes me really sad what's happened to Beverly Hills.

This is a Chloe Kardashian exclusive. We've gotten broken into twice. No. Isn't that terrifying? It was horrific. We were not home, thank God. But they smashed my front door and then six months later they smashed my bedroom door. And we had secure. It was awful. That is horrible. Horrible. I'm so sorry that happened. Yeah, thank you. On top of everything else. By the way, there was that. I hadn't talked about that. Yeah. I was like, oh, really? I was like, are we? good on karma? Like, I am filled up. There's been a lot. Girl, I have said that same message to the universe. I'm like, listen, I have paid all my dudes. I know. Like, we just have. Why do they keep testing us so much? I don't know. I'm like, we're good people, right? Right. And also, it's the strength, I think. Right, but I've proven. That you're proven. We're strong.

Yeah. I get it. Like, I'm like, we're done. Like, now I need. We also can't, we don't even have the freedom to crumble. Whoa, that was, are you going to cut that? That was crazy. The freedom to Crumble is your book type. No. By Chloe Kardashian, the freedom to crumb. That was wild. No, but it's true. I have to keep it together for everyone.

Even for like my friends that like, and I'm not good with emotions, I feel like you're very good with emotions. Well, I don't love them. I hate them. Like when someone starts crying. I'm like, what do you do in this instance? But they have, it happens all the time. People love to cry to me.

And I appreciate it. Right. Like I'm someone. I have so much empathy for that. But my reaction is never going to be. be what you want it to be. Like, I'm smiling and someone's like, I'm like this and I'm like, what do you do in this situation? I hate it. And I'm not like a hugger. Oh, I am. I'm like a hugger. I want to say hi. But if someone's crying in my face, I'm like, oh. No, I just don't know what to do.

Yeah. I want to talk a lot about what's going on and get angry. I don't want to like tend to you being upset. Well, and also everyone reacts differently. Not everyone wants to be hugged when they're crying. So I'm like, What do you need for me in this moment? But you can't ask that question while they're sobbing. And their heart is broken. Okay. Speaking about strength. Yes.

I do want to talk a little bit about the grief you've been through. Because I think it's really helpful for so many other people. I remember when your dad passed away, you were really public about it. And I think people got to see a side of you that they don't typically see. But you also pulled away. Like I remember you pulled away from social and you took time to yourself and I thought that was really responsible of you. Right. How do you feel now and what got you to this place?

I think, first of all, him dying was totally different than how I expected it. I had always anticipated him dying because he had me at 44. So when I was 16, he was 60. So I was like, he's going to have a heart attack and die because you think 60 when you're 16 is so old. Right. Now it's like obviously not that old. And so when he got cancer at 78, I was like, what? Like, we've passed that.

Right. You get cancer in your 50s and it's unexpected. That's the only thing I had ever really heard about cancer. And then when he was diagnosed with cancer, they were like, oh, he has lymphoma. This is fine. This is treatable. This is the cancer you want to have. And then we went back for a scan after we had managed it with steroids.

He did a little. Then they were like, it's spreading. We needed to do a little chemo. And then when we went back for the second scan, I thought it was going to be clear no matter what. And they were like, oh, you have a rare blood form of cancer called T-cell lymphoma. So it's not like the lymphoma we thought it was. So I had watched him sort of fade away. But as he was fading away, I still did not think he was going to die.

Yeah. And only the last two weeks, it had spread to his brain. And we were like going to be, he was going to be put on hospice. And I remember thinking, well, he's still going to live like another few years. and we went to the doctor the last day. He's like, there's nothing we can do. We went home and he died later that night. Oh, wow.

He was very much like, I'm not doing this anymore. And my mom called me back to the house after I had dropped them off two hours later. And I held his hand as he literally fought for his last breaths. It was like 15 minutes. And it was just such a beautiful, intimate way to watch the person you love the most slip away. And I thought it was going to be more of like a jolt to the system. and instead I just sort of like glazed over and I really felt like, A, I felt so close to him in real life, so supported by him, so loved by him, that I still felt that even though he wasn't physically here. Right.

So that really, the strength of our relationship in this world has carried me through having him in a different world. Yeah. And I try not to pay too much attention to it because if I do, it's all encompassing. You go into a black hole of forever that you can't process as a human being, right? You're like, this is a person I love, this is my father, and I literally cannot speak to them. So I've really tried to get through it by communicating with him. I talk to him all the time in the car. My psychic has told me so many intimate personal things that he will tell you.

Memories that no one could know, signs to look out for that I see on the daily. I just spoke to him two days ago and I had lunch with some friends and he literally said something to me through my psychic about what happened at that lunch that no one else knew. Oh my gosh. So I almost feel like. I love stuff like that. No, you will be really, isn't it? I mean, he's so unbelievable. But carrying our relationship through, even though he's not physically here, has truly gotten me through him not being here. And I don't think people do that enough. No. Because I do the same. I talk to my dad all the time. Yeah, I think that's so important. That's what keeps them alive. Alive. Something that makes me so proud. My dad's been gone like 22 years or something like that, which is like crazy.

insane. Like it's insane. I'm like, he's been gone longer than I knew him in real life, which is crazy. Wait, I'm sorry. Let's do that math again. He's been gone longer than he was alive for your life. Yes. And like, it's crazy to me when I think of that. But when I, it's so silly, but I met Dolly Parton and she was telling me that she knew my dad. And I never knew she knew my dad. And so being, now I'm 41, my dad's been gone so long. I don't get. to hear new stories about him often because I hang out with his same circle of friends that he once knew. And so when she did that, I was like, honestly, I've always loved her. But if anything, like, that made me feel so connected to him and talking about him. And I think it's

so important. Some people would rather, like, not speak of it at all. And let's just pretend that never happened. You can't. You can't pretend because it was such a part of your life. It's ingrained. It's literally a part of your DNA. It's why you're alive. So to just not be able to. to like carry that on, I wouldn't be able to. So like a part of me still thinks he's alive sometimes. And then I'm like, like, what will happen was I'll be in the car and roll will be like, call daddy. And then I'll call, I'll go try to call dad. And I'm like, oh, no, this is your dad. Dad is not. And then I'm like, oh, that's kind of a burn. But it's still like, it's nice. It just sort of, it's like Sharon Clueless when she's like, I still talk to my mom. She's alive. That was my inspo. Okay. That was my inspo. Inspo received. Yeah. No, I do like my, my, not. of our kids have met your dad our dad my dad uh no um but we talk about him so much and there's photos of him they all know him yep and i think especially with young kids i think it's so important to not have them believe he's still here but to talk about him enough where it's almost as if he's

still here to them i think that's so healthy and i truly believe going back to like the kids thing i think that's why i had grace so soon i think that the universe was like it's really important to you your dad meets both kids and he was there for his first birthday and then, you know, he was there. He met them. Right. And then he left. So I truly believe that's why that worked out the way. But I think it's great to, they know what he looks like.

His pictures are around. I love that. Yeah. It's really important. It really is. Yeah. And does it change your outlook like on what you choose to spend your time doing, what you want to put your energy on?

I wish I could say it's totally changed me and I don't focus on bullshit. but I still get caught up and stuff that's not that important. That's okay. I really do. And I've gone through so much death in such a short amount of time. And I still am like, well, why is that crooked? Or why did she say that? And I'm like, girl.

Right. Get with it. Who gives a shit? But it also makes me feel normal. Yeah. You know? But it's definitely. I'm also sure that the people around you appreciate that.

Yes. Okay, there she is. There she is. She's still there. Yeah. And going back to not the. freedom to crumble, which whoa. Even like the way I save face with my closest friends, like if I were to start to get wonky, I think it would offset them. Yeah, I agree with that. Yeah. Because you're the

pillar. We're the pillars. Yeah. You're the pillar of American pop culture, literally. And I'm the pillar of like my three friends that I've managed to stick around. Shut up. I can't. I'm honestly not okay. And I imagine you and your mom are closer than ever. She's around all the time. She lives in Switzerland like kind of half the year now. She goes all the time. Her mom, my mom, my grandmother's going to be 101. Stop. That bitch doesn't die. That is chic. Shee. Honestly. That's crazy. It's crazy. That is crazy. Good for her. Yeah. So she's there. I'm telling you, the sigs and every, it's a different time. And the martini and the alcohol every day. And I'm like, what water bottle is this? Is it plastic? I'm going to die. No, literally. No, it's crazy. Yeah. It is crazy. Yeah. But we have. have a really good relationship and she's so helpful with my kids. She babysits. You know, it's so nice to have like not. If you cannot have a nanny around, it's, I mean, nannies are great, but you know. My mom doesn't do that. No, I know, but your mom's fabulous. She's on a yacht, God damn it. I can't handle it. She's always like, I give you guys your own job so you can afford nannies. I'm like, you're right.

You're right. So you're fine. What is something used to love that you would never, ever wear now? Oh my God. I think jean shorts with panty hose underage. them. You used to wear that? Yeah, let's not talk about it. Oh my God, I can't even envision that. Yeah, it was like a sweater. It worked like in 2007.

True. It just doesn't work. A lot of things did. Yeah. I have the long list that I could do for myself. What item in your closet do you feel the most sentimental about? Probably this gold YSL embellished jacket that Jordan surprised me with that I really wanted.

Why? Just for that reason? I like really wanted it. It was runway. It was like very difficult. And there was none. And he like had it flown from Paris to L.A. with a manager from the store and I got it for Christmas.

It has like mink sleeves. It's like one of those pieces you have for the rest of your life. It goes to your kids. I'm very sentimental about that. Oh, love. Yeah. What is your design process for Rangley? This is so lame.

It's so intuitive. Like I'm like, this is what we have to do right now. And I definitely want to design pieces that are wearable pieces that I feel really passionate about and things that like you can have for a long time. But I'm really big on color. I'm really big on cut. and most importantly, like quality. Like your sweater feels beautiful, right?

So I'm wrangly from. Literally head to toe. Head to toe. Yeah. And I am a freak about itch. I know. Like a freak. This is such a soft sweater.

And I love this. So yes. Yeah. And I just knew the quality would be good coming for you. I'm glad. Yeah. Because I don't have any room, right? Like if it was not going to be good stuff, they're going to be like, you're not going to

wear that. Yeah. So it was really important. And every single piece we've done, I wear. And you do. And I do. I love the videos about it. Just love. Love. Okay. Truth or gag?

Okay. Low-rise jeans. Gag. Curtin bangs. No one looks good in bangs. Why do people keep doing that? Like, oh, like I did like a clip on. But then you have to fucking keep cutting it. They're awful.

Yeah, the growout I couldn't handle. Zoe Deschannel is the only bang girl. I don't know what she would look like without them. Right. It's her signature now. Statement necklaces. Are they diamonds? Took the words out of my mouth.

Yeah. If it's not a diamond. Forget it. Right. Forget it. Micro shorts. Love. Belly flats.

Love. Visible thongs. Like underwear? If you're like super hot in 25, sure. Okay. I can't do that. Me neither. Mob wife aesthetic.

Yes, especially now. Love a fur. Love it. Love it. Double denim. Love it. How shiny are your earrings? Oh, I hope really.

Whoa. Oh, good. You're paid in those. Okay, good. I keep thinking they're heart shape, but there's just two of them. Wow. Okay. Yeah. I'll go for them. They're gorgeous. Tiny sunglasses. Absolutely hate with a serious passion. Same. Hate. I also have like a bigger. I just love big and like no one see me. Yep. What's the point in wearing them otherwise?

Even can I just say Margo Robbie's like press right now? Like her looks have been so good for Wuthering Heights, but she has those tiny sunglasses. And I'm like, you. I didn't see her in the tiny sunglasses. She's so gorge. Don't do it. You don't eat them. Yeah.

And she is so gorge. What's happening? Yeah. Salmon sperm facials. I love. When I did salmon sperm, they inject a little. little, not deep, because it's not like filler. Right, but don't we want to just do filler? Yeah, but this is like more collagen boosting. It's not supposed to fill. But I just know it

makes you like glow. Okay. I just do these trends we get so on them and then five years later we're like, oh, that was nothing and this is the new thing. Oh yeah. That's probably true as well. Yeah, I rather just do good old fashioned filler and like plastic surgery. I want to just be like 25% better looking. Well, you're gorge. No, you're really gorge. We have lots of things. You're gorge. Skinny brow. I can't do it. I hate it. I hate this one. Bleached eyebrows. I think they look really good on some people. Some. I think you look in an alien. Otherwise. Yeah. Bo freckles. You better have perfect fucking skin if you're doing that. You better not have a goddamn poor in sight if you're painting stupid dots on your face. You see people are like tattooing them. Yeah. No. Why are they, why is everyone so weak, like doing dumb shit like that? Well, when you know you're not going to want that. Don't they turn colors? Didn't we make fun of people with freckles until five years ago? Why are we? Why are we? doing that? I don't understand. Like, no, no. Clean girl aesthetic. Yes. If you can like pull, if you're Haley Bieber, yeah. I know. Like when you look like you smell good all the time, for sure.

Ooh, what was a pop culture moment you wish you could experience again for the first time? Coachella? Really? I don't know. I feel like I don't do anything fun anymore. I'm like, is it coach? No, Coach, I feel like I wish I just went harder at Coachella. What the fuck else am I going to say? Cochella. Who knows? When I leave someone, yeah. Oh, whenever. I get put on the spot. When I leave, I think of like the most articulate, beautiful answer. I'm like, yeah. What did I say? What are you most looking forward to in 2026? I'm most looking forward to feeling good, feeling like myself again. No, but truly feeling centered and feeling organized and like prepared and excited to start working again. And your podcast. And my podcast. I can't wait for my podcast. That's what I mean.

Like to start working and sinking my teeth into that. I'm very excited for that. we're going to be thirsty and desperate and talk about it at the beginning. And at the end. Yes. It's coming March 25th. It's going to be called. I don't think we've said what it's going to be called.

You're never going to guess the name, the Morgan Stewart Show. I know. I know. I know. It actually took a lot of people to decide that. And we were like, let's just do this. They were like coming up with names. I was like, no.

Well, now no one can replace you. Exactly. There you go. That's why you do it. That's why you do it. Yeah. That's exactly right. I love it.

I feel like we should. Keeping up with the Kardashians. Right. We learned what we were doing. No one can replace us. Oh my God. Well, I love you. This was so easy.