Upstream - Episode 1: Dr No

Episode Date: February 24, 2021

Alice (@AliceAvizandum), Abi (@PhilosophyTube) and Devon (@Devon_OnEarth) dive into the James Bond cinematic universe with the first film, DR NO. No it isn't the old Casino Royale stop talking about t...he old Casino Royale stop it   The first premium episode is already available on our Patreon

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello and welcome to the first episode of Kill James Bond, a podcast in which us three pursue noted tuxedo spy dickhead James Bond Sr. through 24 films, innumerable other prophecies, and because, like, I wanted to mention why we're doing this, right? James Bond is a fucking arsehole, man. And every other podcast about James Bond is about how cool he is, like, how the aesthetic has got... No, no, that's not what we're doing. The podcast that we're doing here, this is about how much of a prick James Bond is.
Starting point is 00:00:44 We are an anti-Bond podcast is we are an anti-bond podcast that's right and we are going to introduce ourselves so without further ado the name's caldwell kelly alice caldwell kelly the name's thorn abigail thorn And I'm Devon. What else do we know about this Chinese gentleman? Nothing much, except his name. Dr. No. I like it I like it we've got production values this time and we are going
Starting point is 00:01:39 to be going through we're going to be pursuing James Bond through the chronological films which means we're starting with be pursuing james bond through the chronological films which means we're starting with the first one dr no not the fucking bullshit comedy casino royale we're starting out with the first serious one yes and that is dr no how did we all briefly how do we all feel about this movie, having seen it for this? Well, Dev, am I right in thinking it was the first time you've seen a Bond film?
Starting point is 00:02:09 Yeah, well, not the first time I've seen a Bond film. I'd only seen Skyfall before, so everything that I was seeing I was comparing to the later Daniel Craig Bonds. And it's remarkable just how different it is. Yeah, this is such an like early 60s movie and i figure what i'll do is i'll like i'll take us through it i'll give us the the synopsis and then just jump in uh because like i'm i'm now occupying the showrunner role for the first time which means you guys get to be the tangent idiots. Perfect. Yeah, we do.
Starting point is 00:02:46 You get to pull the thing off track. So I hope you're very excited for that. The role I was born to play. Well, actually, Dev, it's funny that you should mention the roles that we were born to play, because one of the reasons I was so interested in doing a podcast about James Bond, well, the two reasons, one political and one personal. The political one is that I have this hypothesis that James Bond is quite like Doctor Who in that frequently it's almost good. However, unlike Doctor Who,
Starting point is 00:03:17 when James Bond is bad, it's bad for interesting reasons. Doctor Who is bad because they write it on Friday and film it on Monday and have a budget of 10 pence.ames bond has all the money and talent in the world behind it but it somehow manages to suck almost every time and often often in ways that reflect interesting things about the society that made it well what's really funny what's really funny is that dr no is different from a lot of the other bond movies in that this was the last one, the only one, in which they had no budget whatsoever. It was an absolute shoestring. From what I found out, they paid the main woman $6,000, like, maximum, to be in this.
Starting point is 00:03:58 Ooh. In 1962, that's not going to be a lot of money. Yeah. 62, that's not going to be a lot of money. Yeah. Well, and the other reason and why it occurred to me when you said the roles we were born to play, Dev, is the biggest note that I've made in my notes here is just the word hauntology in big capital letters.
Starting point is 00:04:20 Because, well, Alice and I, I think, had quite similar upbringings in that we both went to private schools. We were both military cadets. I actually went to a university from which MI6 recruits. And I know people at my old university who definitely did not join MI6. That definitely did not happen. You get to do the cool thing where you say, yeah, I work for the Foreign Office, despite having no diplomatic skills. I won't name anybody, just in case they're all- it's just in case a bunch of terrorists are sitting around a table somewhere listening to this podcast, and all of a sudden they're gonna turn to one guy and go, wait, what?
Starting point is 00:04:56 Doctor No- Doctor No is hauntology, because it's- well, let me take you through the beginning, right? And the beginning made me think I was dissociating. Because it's the first Bond movie, I mean, excuse me, it's the only Bond movie until, like, one of the late Brosden ones that doesn't have a live-action title sequence. It's all highly 60s animated. You've got some mad fucking flashing dots. You have a change of song to a calypso song part way through jarring transition about midway through and and the first shot the first live
Starting point is 00:05:36 action shot that you see in james bond is three jamaican men pretending to be blind in order to shoot a guy with a silenced pistol yes it's very very weird as an opening it's there's some very odd editing choices right throughout this there's a lot of bad jump cuts there's almost no establishing shots ever i'm not sure whether that's because they had to switch onto a different kind of film to shoot outdoors and the lighting didn't work because all the indoor stuff is 35 millimeter but yeah i don't know why that is but it's some very unusual editing going on and so we start with not james bond it takes us a long time to meet james on we start with these villains these these three jamaicans on jamaica who murder
Starting point is 00:06:18 ruthlessly murder uh the station chief of mi7 because it's not mi6 it's not yeah very badly they overdub it very obviously to say it's mi7 mi7 yeah and so this this guy john strangways which fantastic name by the way is engaged in sort of hauntological pursuits, right? He's literally at his club, the Queen's Club, with a bunch of other white friends, this retired general from the Indian Army and a professor, and they're all playing bridge. And then he has to go and take a phone call from MI7, and he gets clapped.
Starting point is 00:07:00 He gets assassinated in such a haphazard way that the three guys pretending to be blind might as well have just not even bothered with that. They just sort of look past him and then rotate and just shoot him. In broad daylight, too. AI sent to hostile suddenly, and they veer out and they shoot him with a silenced pistol. It's so good. Not only that, though, not only that, but they then kill his secretary. The unforgivable crime, because spies had to have secretaries back then. And so, they break into his house, and while his secretary is on the radio, which is this
Starting point is 00:07:41 enormous sort of wood-panelled contra you're going come in london london come in london this is jamaica jamaica she gets she gets also got with the brightest red red paint oh yeah it's strawberry jam it's beautiful yeah i love this fun fact about this is our inciting fun fact about that. She got that job to play the secretary because she owned that house they were filming in. Yes, she's not an actress. I thought she did a passable job. It's such a classic shoestring budget thing to do. Just like, fuck, you own the space.
Starting point is 00:08:17 I guess you're an employee of ours now. Yeah, absolutely. And so this is our inciting incident, is murder most foul. And we see this travel all the way up the chain through a series of, like, poorly overdubbed bits of footage of, like, radio signals intercept sectors and stuff. And then, finally, we get to James Bond, who is in the club at Les Ambassadeurs. Yeah, not just any club, but the casino at Les Ambassadeurs, which was then an extremely famous high-stakes casino. So it's quite a clever bit of character establishment, because the first thing
Starting point is 00:08:54 we learn about James Bond is that he's a gambler. He's a gambler? He moves in these circles. Incidentally, the first time we hear his name spoken, the guy mispronounces it. Check this out. I'm looking for Mr. James Bond. Mr. James Bond.
Starting point is 00:09:10 Hello, I'm looking for Mr. James Bond. The problem is that everyone in Britain at that time had mouthfuls of cotton 24-7. That is true, and there's a lot of that in this movie, because that's part of the hauntology, is that this is absolutely a dying seconds of empire thing.
Starting point is 00:09:31 And so, every single British person that we speak to who isn't Bond, who is the only person to have any kind of a regional accent, talks exactly like that, Mr. Bond. And so we join him in the club club where he gets to do the famous bond james bond thing which i'm not gonna i don't dignify with having a drop for and we hate him we don't want to we don't want to dignify that no he's he's playing he's playing high stakes shaman defer a game for dickheads a game that has no skill involved again it's a character establishing moment it's purely a game of luck. I think mainly that the main attribute that we learn about Bond is that he's lucky. Admire your tenacity, Miss Trench.
Starting point is 00:10:25 And she says, I admire your luck, Mr. Bond. And then, of course, he immediately tries his luck. And this is the other fun thing about Doctor No. Is that it's still in the age of Bond where you could have every woman on screen look as if they constantly want to fuck James Bond. Well, in fact, when Sylvia Trench appeared on screen, I started a timer just to see how long it would be before they fucked. Nine minutes and ten seconds, if anyone was wondering. It's about that in-universe as well.
Starting point is 00:10:54 Roundabout. Yeah, but Bond excuses himself from this hideous damask wallpapered casino and goes to his boomer ass extremely spacious flat and finds her there wearing one of his shirts
Starting point is 00:11:10 and playing golf, which is an interesting case of perception. In the original script, she was supposed to be naked. Wow. Yeah, and so Bond gets this line where he's like, no, I have to leave immediately to do spy stuff.
Starting point is 00:11:26 Because he goes to see M first. Ah, you're right, yeah, I forget, this is the thing, right? It's so tempting to make Bond more responsible than he is. But like, no, what he actually does is he gets pulled out of the casino to go to work. Yeah, as Dr. No later says, you're nothing but a stupid policeman. A stupid policeman. You are just a stupid policeman. So he goes to see M.
Starting point is 00:11:53 Mm-hmm. He's been summoned. Which is why he's first introduced in the fucking tuxedo, is because he's just been gambling on work time, essentially. Yeah, this is just what he does on a Friday night, he just goes and blows tens is because he's just been gambling on work time, essentially. Yeah, this is just what he does on a Friday night. He just goes and blows tens of thousands of pounds in Les Ambassadeurs. He meets Moneypenny for the first time,
Starting point is 00:12:13 and they hadn't really sort of fixed the Moneypenny character yet. So, like, later Moneypenny is more like, oh, well, you are going to flirt with me, but I'm going to pretend like I don't like it. Whereas this Moneypenny is just like, why aren't you fucking me right now? Well, at least she is established to clearly be into it. She's pretty much the only woman James Bond's in the entire series who is established to like, you know, consensually want James Bond to flirt with her, which is kind of nice. She's also the only female member of the cast who is not
Starting point is 00:12:45 overdubbed. We trust her. Everyone else is overdubbed. Most of the other roles are overdubbed by the same woman. It is the same voice the whole way through. That was what I was thinking. I was losing my mind. This is where you get the origin of the sexy
Starting point is 00:13:01 Bond lady voice. I was losing my mind. It's sort of faint saintly exotic a little bit breathy and it's no it's just one woman who they got to do it because they didn't they hired they hired one sound editor most movies have at least two they had one and this this is what they they got them to do which is why there are a lot of shots of people talking and their lips don't move as we as we see later on there's another female character who is played by a white woman in yellow face yes i was gonna make a lot of that going on i love the redundancy of hiring a white actress putting her in yellow face and then getting a white woman to dub just to make sure that nobody foreign is
Starting point is 00:13:42 allowed anywhere near this film i mean there were multiple foreign like there were multiple asian women cast in it but they just were never allowed to fuck bond obviously no of course not because that would be that would be dangerous and repulsive to the viewers of 1962 anyway so he goes to meet his boss m who is this sort of fatherly figure incidental detail i always really liked the fact that m has this sort of fatherly figure incidental detail i always really liked the fact that m has this sort of cool double door designed to his office where both of the doors are like covered in leather right i thought this was this incredible piece of like world building i thought it captured a real aesthetic the reason why they did that is because it was cheaper it's
Starting point is 00:14:22 made of plastic because they couldn't afford a real door oh i thought it was like a soundproofing thing or it's to stop people shooting through the door later they kind of worked to that but no in doctor no they originated it just because down they had some plastic sheathing and no door so they just built a door and covered it with this so it didn't look too bad and m introduces bond to well firstly he like passive aggressively like takes his gun off him it was like what is this a gun for oh no he goes like what is this a woman's gun because the guy takes it he's like what are you gay or something in a woman's handbag it's like yo this guy's got a gay gun yeah he does when when they bring in q he's like this. It's like, yo, this guy's got a gay gun. Yeah, he does.
Starting point is 00:15:05 When they bring in Q, he's like, this is a gun for girls, Bond. Bond, what are you, a pussy, Bond? Not even Q yet. It's just like a guy. His name was Major Boothroyd. Major Boothroyd. Named for a guy who wrote to Ian Fleming when he was writing the Bond novels, complaining
Starting point is 00:15:21 about the gun that Bond used and complaining that he should use a water instead of a breast because it was a gun for women and homosexuals. Again, hauntology because as soon as he said the word Beretta I remembered that I unsuccessfully in university tried to date
Starting point is 00:15:37 the heiress to Beretta. So again, hauntology. A highly abby story. I went to Aberystwyth. I went to Aberystwyth. I went to the University of Glasgow, I was informed that it was as good. No, anyway. So M takes his gun, replaces it with the Walther, and introduces him to the lowest stakes plot in the entire franchise. It's so good! And that plot is, somebody is gonna make the Americans' moon rockets fall over. That's it. Rocket fall down, Bond! Rocket... Mr. Bond, are you aware that rocket fall down?
Starting point is 00:16:20 We're gonna get a lot of good data out of that though that's the thing it's it it's like never it's never explained why anyone should give a shit least of all the british being like bond they're gonna drop the rocket they're gonna knock spacex's new uh moon mission over you've gotta go kill some jamaicans mr bond it could be inferred that they if they manage to topple the rocket successfully then they might do the same to missiles i suppose but no i don't think anyone explicitly makes that no nobody nobody bothers to do that it's not even clear whether it's like a manned rocket of course this is 1962 so we are we are pre-moon landing yeah that's right well we haven't landed on the moon yet,
Starting point is 00:17:05 so the Americans are about to launch another rocket to go around the moon with someone on it, and some of their recent rockets have gone a little bit squiffy, and so they send Bond to Jamaica to say, well, why are these rockets missing? It couldn't be because launching a rocket's quite hard. It must be because a sinister man in yellowface with fake hands is doing it.
Starting point is 00:17:23 Foreign interference. Mm-hmm. Yes. And so Bond stops off. hard it must be because no sinister man in yellow face for fake hands is doing it yes and so bond bond bond stops off he's told like get out get on the plane immediately you have three hours and he's like yeah i'm gonna stop off for pussy which he does he goes home that's right finds sylvia trench wearing one of his shirts and playing golf which again is wild fuck fucks her, gets on the plane. Ever established how she got in? No. She's broken. He doesn't like, have any kind of security or anything.
Starting point is 00:17:50 Doesn't even lock his door, yeah. And we get a classic Bond scene, much imitated over the years, of Bond arrives in an airport, and everyone in that airport is following him. It's very Naked naked gun isn't it yes it's all it's missing is guy looks through eye holes cut and i thought we were gonna get that because they introduced a guy holding a massive newspaper and i was like yes yes yes let's go let's go but they they didn't go for the eye holes, they just had him stand nearby in an extremely conspicuous way. And everyone is extremely suspicious-looking in different ways, except for his extremely friendly and extremely sweaty driver.
Starting point is 00:18:38 Who is like, yeah, no, I've been sent by Government House, because Jamaica is still a British colony. been sent by by government house because jamaica is still a british colony government house has has sent me a swarthy man to carry your bags and drive you to the thing you have just walked off a plane with a loaded gun which no one took off you and by the way five martinis deep you haven't slept because we've established that you've been up up all night getting pussy um also as when boothby gives him the gun in the previous scene boothby loads the gun gives it to bond bond looks at it and then just puts it away he performs no kind of safety check at all so bond has just got off a plane drunk sex addled with a gun and this swarthy man is like hey welcome to jamaica this this movie
Starting point is 00:19:23 absolutely says fuck trigger discipline every time bond picks up a gun the first thing he does is put his finger on the trigger and the second thing he does is put his other hand over the top of the barrel like manipulated around it fucking rules but like he meets this swarthy man who's like yeah yeah, no, I'm your chauffeur, places a phone call in a phone box and immediately blows that guy's cover as an assassin. And then, in what is a perfect Bond moment, he knows that this guy cannot be trusted. He knows he's there to try and kill him, gets in the back of his car anyway, just as a flex. Yeah, again, what we know about bond is that he's
Starting point is 00:20:07 lucky that's pretty much all we know at this stage he's he's lucky and he fucks a lot and he's he's very very very stupid just a stupid policeman i'm gonna get so much use out of that drop did you one thing i'd note and this is completely uninteresting to pick up but the point where he's he's giving the phone call he also gets like a word inserted halfway through his sentence it's like so he he's he's going like um very good i'll see you later but like they insert the word the halfway through because he's clearly like mangled the pronunciation once and they instead of over dubbing the whole line they just read up one word right in the middle of it and it's so jarring to listen to so bond gets in this guy's car and there's a car chase this first car chase in bond and it's like this this packet is following them so bond makes the guy get off the road, and then beats him up.
Starting point is 00:21:06 And the thing that I want to, like, note from this, as he beats this guy for information, is that across this movie, James Bond has two moves. Like in a combat sense, he can judo throw a guy, or he can punch a guy in the face with a right hook, and that's all he does. And once you watch this movie, it's impossible to see it as like anything else other than bond presses a button bond presses b you made this observation in the group chat earlier before i re-watched the movie just before recording and you're completely right sean connery famously only had light attack and heavy attack that's all he had he never learned any specials
Starting point is 00:21:48 and gun obviously but Bond does heavy attack heavy attack light attack on this guy and he's like oh yeah okay I was sent to kill you I'm sweating so much right now by the way I am slick I don't know how you're holding me
Starting point is 00:22:04 he's a completely moistened man are you scottish how are you not just like melted scotsman on jamaica yeah and bond does the thing tell me who you work for and the guy fucking kills himself with a cyanide capsule in a cigarette he like talks Bond into letting him have a cigarette and then he bites down on it and fucking dies Bond makes this hilarious face as well he's like oh shit oh shit
Starting point is 00:22:34 oh I probably shouldn't have done that one yeah and he talks Bond into it with the sentence let me have a cigarette which is so badly dubbed too yeah I see no problem here. And so Bond just drives this dead-ass man to government house. In a convertible with just a corpse in the back. Yeah, he's just in the back.
Starting point is 00:22:59 And he leaves him in the care of the Jamaican police. And once again, everybody has this accent. Everybody is from the foreign office. Everybody is very dignified. All of the policemen are wearing shorts and long socks, because that's just how the British Empire was. It's very bad. An empire of dads.
Starting point is 00:23:20 Yeah, an empire of dads. And he pumps the dads for information. He finds out about this bridge fall, and he goes to Strangway's house and finds this photo of him with a local Jamaican man. And of course, because Bond is... You are just a stupid policeman. Immediately the most suspicious thing in the house. And so he's like, I gotta find to find this guy and this guy turns out
Starting point is 00:23:46 to be named Quarrel, and I'm gonna be very angry about the treatment of quarrel I'm gonna put a marker down here Dr. No is gonna be the most racist bond movie at least until we get to live and let die because Really? I strongly believe so movie at least until we get to Live and Let Die. Because... Really? I strongly believe so. Oh no, I think this is gonna be...
Starting point is 00:24:12 No, because... This at least manages to be racist against more than one group of people. That is true. So he meets Quarrel, who kind of brushes him off. He follows Quarrel to a bar, and then he tries to kind of like get him in private and it's very weird because the way this is filmed and the way this is written
Starting point is 00:24:34 it's impossible to a modern observer not to read it as quarrel wants to suck this guy off like yeah it's just give us some privacy will? Because I gotta go talk to this guy who I keep looking at in a really weird way. And so they get him in some privacy, and then Quarrel just pulls a switchblade on Bond from across a room. Not sure what he's intending to do with this. Bond is standing next to the door, so he could just walk out of the door. He could just leave, but then, Quarrel's friend is standing next to the door, so he could just walk out of the door. He could just leave, but then, Quarrel's friend, the owner of the bar, whose name I believe is
Starting point is 00:25:09 Pussfella. Yeah, his name is Pussfella, and I wrote that down in 72.4 in my notes. I didn't realise that! This motherfucker called Pussfella. Yeah, and Pussfella rules because unlike Bond, he has a grapple attack. He just grabs Bond by both arms. He grabs bond by both arms by both arms then
Starting point is 00:25:26 quarrel says ain't no use you struggling puss fella wrassles alligators and i'm like yeah man let's go there are no alligators in jamaica but all right hey if there are puss fella's gonna find him and he's gonna rattle and I want you to know, he's the reason why there are no fucking allocators in Jamaica shout out to Pussfella he's unlocked the grapple attack and so Bond
Starting point is 00:25:59 then like easily defeats both of them by doing the heavy attack by doing a single shoot of the throw he just smashes heavy attack he knocks them into a massive pile of empty cardboard boxes yeah but then he gets stuck up
Starting point is 00:26:17 with a Walther PPK which as we've had established is a real man's gun it's a gun that the CIA like and we meet for the first time felix lighter who has the weirdest fucking american accent i have ever heard he sounds like a kennedy on quail who tells him that he's from the cia and they're on the same side they're also there to find out why do rockets fall down? Why rocket
Starting point is 00:26:48 fall down, Mr. Bond? They're knocking our rockets down. Bond, I can't figure it out alone. I need your assistance. Despite the fact that this mystery is extremely obvious, Bond, I need your help to figure it out. Yes. And this leads them to be aware of an island
Starting point is 00:27:08 off of jamaica called crab key yeah and what and what bond learns is that strangways went to crab key with quarrel who was very nervous about it yes because quarrel is superstitious and ethnic and thinks there's a dragon living there. Ghosts. A repeating thing we'll see whenever Quarrel is introduced is that every person of colour in this movie is portrayed as being extremely instinct-driven
Starting point is 00:27:37 and base. And irrational. It's extremely childlike race. 100%. But before we get into this, we have to have Bond blunder into his second trap of the day, where he finds out that these samples have been given to this geology professor, who is this incredibly craggly-faced man who was working as a bush pilot in Jamaica when they found him. And Bond is just like, yeah, no, I'm just going to talk this guy up, see what he knows. It's probably going to be a trap, I don't give a shit.
Starting point is 00:28:15 Which he does. And Dent immediately snitches on him to his boss. His boss, who is a spooky voice. Oh, this is an amazing introduction of Dr. No, though. I really enjoyed this scene and yeah and again it's because of no budget what happens is dent goes to this all white room with a single really uncomfortable looking chair in it and a skylight and then dr no sort of talks him through killing James Bond.
Starting point is 00:28:45 That thing that we love to do. That thing that we love to do. Over an intercom. He gives him a fucking tarantula in a cage. And he doesn't even tell him what to do with it. He just says, tonight. Yeah, and the guy's like, do I eat it? Or should I use my gun?
Starting point is 00:29:03 No, use the spider. Yeah. But this scene is very, very good. It is a good scene. I think it's the highlight of the film, actually. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the actor, I don't know, I can't remember the actor's name who plays Dr. No, but he's Canadian. Richard Wiseman, I think.
Starting point is 00:29:19 And he does, okay, and he does this, he does a very convincing English accent, or quasi-English accent. He's got this kind of thing where all of his diction is right in the front of his mouth, and he keeps his lips very closed. He's supposed to be Chinese. I've no idea why any of that's true. Why is he a stupid policeman? But he's very good.
Starting point is 00:29:38 He's supposed to be like Chinese-German mix, I think. He's neither of those things and doesn't sound like either of them either. He doesn't look or sound like either of those things. No, he's just a Canadian man in yellow face, but that's how they did it in the 60s. We then get to sort of the highlight of the movie for me, which is he lets the tarantula loose
Starting point is 00:30:00 in Bond's room. Before I get to that, there are a couple of fun details, which is, this is the only time we see bond really do spy stuff but like the rest of the the rest of the franchise and what i mean by that is before he goes out right he like takes one of his hairs and he puts it on the the door so he can see if anyone's been in he um he puts talcum powder on his briefcase so he can see if anyone's been at the locks and then he comes back home he he finds all of this stuff disturbed and he's like there's a genuine air of menace it's like ah everyone on jamaica is trying to kill this man i wrote that down like earlier upon he seems
Starting point is 00:30:35 much more intelligent he he's like laying traps more intelligent but like he's he's also in danger which you don't really like there's peril in laser movies, sure, but nothing so... There's a bit where the three quote-unquote blind guys try to just fucking shoot him across the street with a pistol, and the only reason it doesn't work is because a car drives past and the headlights hit them, and they sort of scatter. But Bond is a lot more vulnerable in this than he ever would be yeah again it's just that he's lucky that's the that's his only character trait
Starting point is 00:31:09 he's just a jammy git yeah and so and so he he finds this tarantula in his bed in the middle of the night and you get this sort of exquisite shot of of sean connery just fucking sweating buckets as this tarantula climbs up him because Because he, in real life, is very afraid- well, was very afraid of spiders. Fucking terrified, yeah. And this is then immediately destroyed by- it crawls off of him, and Bond flails out of the bed, and to an orchestral sting that, like, gives a big, like, sort of fucking trombone hit every time he does it, and BEATS a spider to death! Five hits as well, like, he doesn't mess around.
Starting point is 00:31:50 Five hits, yeah, he doesn't even stamp on it, either, he fucking beats a spider to death with his hands. Yeah, yeah, he does. Well, he uses a shoe. Oh, fuck, is it? Yeah. The spider's name was Rosie, incidentally. Aw. Rest in peace to rosie well she didn't really she didn't really die i know but like still having to crawl on sean connery she wasn't crawling on sean connery because because he was terrified of spiders they had
Starting point is 00:32:16 a layer of glass layer it's extremely obvious as well because the shadow this spider is casting is like an inch to its left on Sean but so Bond now gets to do his other thing which is he has to go and get some more pussy and he has to go and get this pussy from the double reverse backflip yellow face lady this fucking woman
Starting point is 00:32:39 this woman is introduced as Miss Taro and they treat her being Asian as inherently suspicious because obviously the only information we have about Dr. No is that he is quote unquote Chinese, according to a CIA guy. His only guards we've seen have been Asian. Bond gets back and he's like, I'm afraid you've been misinformed. It's just a Canadian man in yellowfish.
Starting point is 00:33:00 He goes to her apartment and it was chinese like fucking bamboo and like red lights and just to really hammer home she's chinese and she's wearing a fucking she's okay so he comes to the door on the way there he kills the three blind guys by out driving them on a fantastic sort of rolling road set where he's swinging the wheel back and forth and the car isn't moving kills those guys and incidentally this is where we get one of the first things
Starting point is 00:33:34 of Bond just doing a quip when he murders someone because they're driving a hearse and it goes off of a cliff and he's like oh they must have been on their way to a funeral waggles eyebrows at screen theatrically for the next 15 minutes and then meanwhile the person he says that to is like do you want to stay here for the police are you insured no no all right no he's going he's going he's going because he's got to go and and fuck this allegedly chinese lady he needs it he needs
Starting point is 00:34:00 the pussy and she she's she's wearing a towel and he shows up sort of lightly interrogates her while having foreplay with her um and then she's somebody's secretary she's the professor's secretary or something she she's the uh the the principal secretary she's his secretary and in my favorite detail of the dubbing of this film which really is the standout bond unzips i mentioned that they're genuinely like noise and she's wearing a towel there's nothing what do you what are you on when when he gets her at the door and he takes like want her towel off of her hair that she was using when she goes to to like pick up the phone he puts the towel to his mouth and opens his mouth oh yeah five times i was like what the fuck are you doing is such a weird thing yeah i want to i want to
Starting point is 00:35:00 emphasize from fucking day one bond was always this creep man yeah yeah yeah a woman's town yes it's very unusual second but she you first she calls she calls dr no or somebody working for dr no or the professor and says you know james bond is here what do you want me to do and so they're like keep them here for a few hours. So it's kind of established. I guess I'll have sex with them. Yeah, I don't know. Is this... It's not kosher. My notes here just say sexual assault, yellow face.
Starting point is 00:35:33 That's all I've got. My notes are similar to with Sylvia Trench. I started a stopwatch the first time we saw Miss Taro. Okay. Dev's just got hundreds of stopwatches hanging off him. Yeah, I'll be doing this. Eight minutes, 45 seconds. He works fast.
Starting point is 00:35:51 He's speeding up. He's accelerating, if anything. You want to see which Bond, out of all the actors who play Bond, who's the fastest? What's the quickest time? So the current time to beat is eight minutes, 45. All right, then. What he does is... It's the quickest time? So the current time to beat is 8 minutes 45 Alright then What he does is He has sex with her
Starting point is 00:36:09 Twice for no real reason Other than being horny Has her arrested for nothing Because she hasn't really done anything Being suspiciously Asian Being suspiciously Asian Oh right before he has her arrested They bicker about what to have for dinner.
Starting point is 00:36:26 Because he knows that she's just trying to keep him there. Yeah, she says, I'll cook you a Chinese dinner, the least Chinese looking woman I've ever seen. Again, just want to reiterate that I am from China. China, yeah. Just in case you didn't realize that, James. He says, first of all, I don't want you getting dishpan hands or fucking rocks. And then second of all, he drops my favorite line in the movie. Apropos of fucking nothing.
Starting point is 00:37:00 Bond says, I'm feeling Italian and musical. What, dude? You're feeling what feeling Italian and musical. What, dude? You're feeling what? Italian and musical. Yeah, find me an Italian restaurant on Jamaica in 1962. An Italian restaurant on Jamaica that's musical, no less. I'm feeling Italian and musical. So he has her arrested, and then he just kind of lays in wait
Starting point is 00:37:26 for Professor Dent yeah because the spider had failed so he was like right I'm just gonna fucking shoot this guy instead I'm just gonna fucking murk this guy with a gun he probably should have started with that really and so Professor Dent comes in finds the like staged
Starting point is 00:37:42 Bond in the bed shoots him a lot of times. Uses the old pillow trick. Yep, shoots him six times, and then Bond turns on the light and is like, aha, I'm behind you the whole time, and then just murders him. Like, absolute cold blood.
Starting point is 00:37:58 Gets a quip in, too. Well, yeah, because the professor goes, he initially throws down the gun, and then Bond's like, who are you working for? And he's like, I'm not gonna tell you, and Bond's like, alright, then whatever professor goes, he initially throws down the gun. Goes for the gun. And then Bond's like, who are you working for? And he's like, I'm not going to tell you. And Bond's like, all right, then whatever. And then he goes, basically, he doesn't press him very hard. He goes for the gun and then he pulls the gun on Bond
Starting point is 00:38:14 and fires it and it's empty. And Bond says a line from the books. He says, that's a Smith & Wesson and you've had your six. It is not a Smith & Wesson. It's not a revolver. It actually has seven shots in it, but whatever. And then Bond just shoots him in cold blood. Which is phenomenal because he's just proven conclusively that this man now poses him absolutely no threat.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Because he's got no bullets left. He fucking kills his ass dead. And then takes the suppressor off of his pistol with his finger on the trigger the whole time. And just kind of sucks it off for a second right like i'm i think he's supposed to be blowing the like the the gas out of it but it really does just come across like he's just doing a bit and so like we've established crab key dr no doing nefarious shit to make Rocket fall down. So we have to go there, but Quarrel doesn't want to go, because of g-g-g-g-ghosts.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Quarrel doesn't want to go, because... It just occurred to me that had Dr. No just not murdered Strangways at the start, none of this would have happened. Absolutely no reason to do that. Dr. No could have just done nothing. Yeah. But like, Quarrel is like, I don't want to go there during daylight because there's
Starting point is 00:39:27 a dragon, and then these two fucking white boys- Sneering imperialist motherfuckers. He goes like, heh. Native superstition. Yeah. And there's so much of this. Don't start that. They make him go to- take him to the island anyway, Bond lands on the island, finds pussy. Immediately. It just arrives for him on the beach. Mmm, the famous, famous shot of Ursula Andress.
Starting point is 00:39:52 Famous, famous shot. Of Ursula Andress, Honey Rider. Lord almighty. Yeah, she comes out in a fucking, like, in a bikini, bond shows up uh she pulls a knife on him which at least like you get she has the right idea about him but he he dissuades her and then dr no's army of henchmen show up and sort of machine gun the beach and force them to run and hide i do want to say i want to i want to take a moment to know and I think I might even be noting the same thing that you are here, Alice. Is it the hench fit? No, it's not.
Starting point is 00:40:27 It's not. It's when the henchmen come round the corner of the island in their machine gun boat. It's established that they need to hide. So Bond takes Honey Rider's hand and they go to run and Bond turns to Quarrel and says fetch my shoes.
Starting point is 00:40:43 Fetch my fucking shoes. This MF cannot stop giving orders to Quarrel and says fetch my shoes I know I wrote full caps this MF cannot stop giving orders to Quarrel I'm like there's an imminent threat that you don't need your shoes to hide from a machine gun James but he just says fetch my shoes
Starting point is 00:40:59 and then he says you hide over there and I'll hide over here with pussy I mean honey rider might as well be called pussy to be fair she is let's say You hide over there, and I'll hide over here with pussy. I mean, Honey Rider. Might as well be called pussy, to be fair. She is, let's say, ambiguously ethnic in that she has a tan and a weird accent. Her accent gets slowly less weird over the course of it. She starts out with quite a strong one,
Starting point is 00:41:19 and then by the end, she just sounds like the same woman. She's dubbed by the same lady I think she's supposed to be Swiss the other fun thing about Honey Rider is that like Quarrel she is childlike the whole time
Starting point is 00:41:36 I'm not just saying this she talks about how her father was the zoologist and they used to travel the world and her only education was reading an encyclopedia and she has got up i know i fuck it oh my god and bond is like yeah this is the fucking hottest shit i've seen in my life yeah yeah it's a bond it's like one step down from oh like she's a thousand years old but she has the anime titties body of a 17 like it's one step down from that like she's established to be dumb as bricks
Starting point is 00:42:13 but the danger presents itself and and bond immediately grabs the woman's arm to pull her to where she needs to be and tells quarrel where else to go and it's like how about you fuck off mate yeah this is the kind of shit that should get bond righteously shot in the back of the head by quarrel but like get your own damn shoes they mess they metal gear solid their way through a swamp and and then they meet the fucking dragon because like if Bond maybe should learn a valuable lesson here about intelligence received, right? But he simply does not.
Starting point is 00:42:49 The whole time he's like, there's not a dragon. This is a fucking, come on, man. And Honey Rider, by the way, is like, there is also a dragon. I have seen it. I have read about it. He's like, yeah. What's the letter D?
Starting point is 00:43:02 There's a point where she points at a pair of incredibly clearly tank tracks on the ground and goes, look, dragon tracks. And it's like, yeah, okay. Fucking nice, man. Absolutely. And we meet the dragon, which is the funniest shit I've seen in a minute.
Starting point is 00:43:20 Yeah. The dragon is a wheeled, armoured vehicle that has had a dragon face painted on it and it has a flamethrower presumably because again chinese yeah and it's the least threatening fucking vehicle i've ever seen in my life but bond still manages to get owned because while he's sort of like he he's in this sort of quasi military fetch my shoes commanding mode and his plan is okay you and me we're just
Starting point is 00:43:52 gonna shoot at the front of this with our tiny pistols this does not work his plan is to shoot out the fucking headlights on it like yeah you know what kind of provides a lot of light? There's a flamethrower. And so as a consequence, Quarrel gets fucking incinerated. Yeah, RIP Quarrel, F's in chat. It's impossible to overstate how completely avoidable Quarrel getting incinerated was, because this thing was coming towards them so fucking slowly, and the flamethrower had a range of maybe 10 feet, but it just incinerates Quarrel
Starting point is 00:44:26 and then immediately they just turn off the machine and get out and go alright we're gonna take you away now yeah we just wanted to kill that one guy Bond isn't even fucking sad yeah Bond's not even arsed he's like what happened to my shoes Bond's like fuck you had my shoes
Starting point is 00:44:42 fuck damn he had my shoes but also Quarrel has been shown like swigging rum in a cheeky way I was like, fuck, he had my shoes! Fuck, fuck, he had my shoes! But also, Quarrel has been shown, like, swigging rum in a cheeky way at various points, so he probably goes up pretty well. It does go up pretty well, it's... Because ragdoll physics weren't invented yet, so the special effect for this is just Quarrel just fucking falls over completely stone-ass dead. Mm-hmm. Which...
Starting point is 00:45:05 But then, like, we get the first instance of Bond is bonked on the head and captured, and brought to the lair, which is underneath a bauxite mine. And Doctor No is the only person in the fucking movie who knows how to decorate is the thing we we have these we have these sort of beautiful ken adams sets where everything's like lots of lots of concrete that's sort of brushed in interesting ways and they have to oh yeah there is the detail that like both bond and and rider are thoroughly fucking irradiated because uh yeah the island the island's radioactive dog and so what they have to do is they have to like bond bond has to like get sprayed with shaving foam and then brushed once with a broom and then honey rider has to take a full shower
Starting point is 00:46:00 it's it's great um then there's a lot of people working there who again are all chinese all chinese all chinese and then they get brought to a room uh where they're supposed to stay and it's like oh you will stay comfortably here and you will be dr no's guest and then they get drugged kind of pointlessly just drugs and no reason because they get drugged and then they just wake up in a bed rested and it's just like ah I just want to make sure you sleep well Mr Bond Dr No is such a fucking considerate host
Starting point is 00:46:34 that he will roofie his guests but only to make sure they get a good night's sleep there's also no reason to have that scene they could have just gone straight to the scene where Dr No introduces himself I don't know why this is even in there Dr No roofies them because he was going to see them for dinner and they got there too early or some shit like he's literally just killing the fucking time between and then they have to dress up also in asian clothing of course because they have to dress
Starting point is 00:47:00 you gotta dress chinese for this bond bond wears a sort of Mao four-pocket suit, and then Honey Rider gets to wear a cheongsam and pants. And they go and have dinner with Dr. No. I'm surprised he's not like, would you like some hoisin duck and pancakes, Mr. Bond? Throughout all of this, this woman is getting not only more and more english accented but i think she might also be getting blonder like yeah yeah she does she goes to put on her
Starting point is 00:47:32 clothes and her hair is a completely different color radiation the radiation makes you blonde yeah she's getting bimboified they wander through dr through Dr. No's office, which is, like, on the way to dinner, I guess, as a flex. And they find that he has a cool aquarium window because they're under the fucking ocean. And all of the fish look massive. The reason why this is, they altered the script, right?
Starting point is 00:48:02 They have Bond say, yeah, I made it myself. It's this convex glass. And Bond actually has this quite incisive critique of supervillains where he says, yeah, minnows pretending that they're fish. Minnows pretending to be whales. And then just at home he's like, just like you! And Doctor No is like, yeah, I understood.
Starting point is 00:48:25 I understood that's what you were saying, yes. The reason why this is in there is because they bought stock footage of fish and it didn't scale properly, so all of the fish looked fucking massive and they couldn't change it. Yeah, because they're stood in front of a quite clearly not convex window saying, it's convex.
Starting point is 00:48:44 Yeah, and now we get to the fun part. This is the best scene of all. Bond, Bond, No, and Honey Rider enjoy a delightful dinner of two grapes. It's so good! And Dr. No goes completely out of
Starting point is 00:49:00 his way to mention his fucking hands at least three times. Like when he introduces himself, he holds out a hand as if to shake and goes, I don't really shake because of the hands. Because of the metal hands, which I lost doing mad science.
Starting point is 00:49:15 Because of radiation, I think. He has shiny black metal hands, yeah. Yeah, I was... Chinese black metal does sound like a fun genre. But no, no, no, he... The spread is sick. My favorite thing is that Bond lands this absolute fucking roast of him. Because they're kind of like...
Starting point is 00:49:35 First things first, they have to get the woman out of the way, which they do, and Dr. No is like, yeah, no, my guards are just gonna probably rape her, and Bond tries to hit him over the head with a bottle of Dom Perignon. And is dissuaded by it being pointed out to him how nice the fucking champagne is.
Starting point is 00:49:55 And he's just like, oh yeah, okay, fine. Yeah, go ahead. He says it's a 56 or something and Bond's like, I prefer the 53 myself. And Bond's like, I prefer the 53 myself. And Bond literally goes just like, get the woman out of here, it's nothing he says it's a 56 or something and bond's like i prefer the 53 myself literally goes just like get the woman out of here it's nothing to do with her and dr no's like yeah right leave and then the woman just goes for the rest of the movie because yeah yeah all right that's enough she goes to the same place that felix lighter did who has just fucking vanished
Starting point is 00:50:22 just yeah he's just fucking gone he's climbed into the machina to ex-Leiter. Just completely vanishes. No, what happens is they then have this sort of... ideological conversation, right, where Dr. No outlines what his whole vibe is, and his vibe is being the INTJ meme. Like... The successful criminal brain is always superior. It has to be. And so
Starting point is 00:50:49 he announces that like Bond gets this flex in that's just like, oh you kill so many people you've got to be a communist. Right. And Nogue hits him with East-West just points of the compass each as stupid as the other. Fucking go off.
Starting point is 00:51:05 Yeah, because I think it might be in the original novel it was that he was working for the communists, but they change it in this film because I think by the time this film came out, that was too much of a cliche. So this is... Dr. No, in classic Bond villain style, explains who he is
Starting point is 00:51:21 and just says, actually, I work for a secret organisation that MI7 has never heard of called Spectre. Oh, I have a drop for this. I'm a member of Spectre. Spectre? Spectre. That is unaltered. They literally do just say
Starting point is 00:51:37 Spectre back and forth. For about five minutes as well, it was a strange secret. I lost my fucking mind when I found out what specter stood for like he just yeah yeah executive for counterintelligence okay cool terrorism fine revenge and extortion it's such a clear acronym they're like fuck the four pillars of power. We're going to call it Spectre. I mean, you could have had Rocketeering. What does that stand for? Special. But my favourite detail about this is that both Bond and Noah
Starting point is 00:52:13 are just roasting each other the whole time, including the reason why the group chat we have to organise this podcast is currently called Eblis James Bond, which is... Bond goes... We can't all be geniuses can we tell me does the toppling of american missiles really compensate for having no hands and it's so completely up because his hands are not only functional but exceedingly functional. We see him crush a thing to threaten Bond with them.
Starting point is 00:52:52 And he's just like, yeah, no hands much, bitch. But Bond gets his fucking... How do you jack off with those things? How do you finger a woman with a hand like that? Noah's like, well, I thought I was going to recruit you for Spectre. That's why I brought you here. I have a better reason for not killing you immediately than any other Bond villain in the franchise. And Bond is like,
Starting point is 00:53:12 Bond, like, laughs it off. He's like, yeah, give me the revenge section, that one sounds cool, you fucking... And what No tells him is... You are just a stupid policeman. It's an unironically phenomenal scene where the two of them are sort of duking it out with words.
Starting point is 00:53:32 Yeah. And it's fucking accurate. That's Bond's whole vibe, more or less. Like, he pretends not to be, but yeah. He's a dumb, lucky cop. It's something. Yeah, Dr. No dumb, lucky cop. It's something. Yeah, Dr. No absolutely has his number. Yeah, and that number, 007.
Starting point is 00:53:50 That number is 007. Dr. No is just like, yeah, I've finished my grapes. Just have this guy beaten. I want to stress at this point that Dr. No's plan is that he's going to use his nuclear reactor in his base to create a radio wave that'll make the fucking rocket at Cape Canaveral fall over. Fall over.
Starting point is 00:54:10 And then when that is accomplished, he'll blow up his base and go somewhere else. Yeah, he actually tells us that's his plan. He's straight up like... It's not entirely clear. I mean, it seems if you've gone to all the trouble to build this base and if you
Starting point is 00:54:26 wanted to use it to divert missiles, I mean, why not keep the base? It's right there, man. It's pretty strategically located, but he's like, yeah, no, once I've done this, I'm going to blow it up and move on to some other shit. I'm going to do something else. I just wanted to see if I could
Starting point is 00:54:42 do this. I don't know. I'm going to start a podcast. I don't know. You stole start a podcast i don't know he stole 10 million dollars from like the yakuza or something like that the tongs the hips and tongs oh yeah and i wrote like 10 million dollars has been fucking ruined by inflation you can't get a decent secret evil base for 10 million these days you can get a damn good pair of hands, though, apparently. Really? No's first line in the movie is, One million dollars, Mr. Bond. And that's him talking about how expensive his fucking window is.
Starting point is 00:55:13 Out of 10? I mean, I know that stock footage of fish is pricey, but a million dollars? That's a tenth of the money he stole. How is that? Yeah, he just blew it all on the window. The sickest, most expensive element. The Spectre
Starting point is 00:55:28 accounts department are like, Dr. No, what are you spending this on? Your expenses are awful. Dr. No, we just needed you to have a radio telescope or something. I cannot stress enough that No's whole vibe is this.
Starting point is 00:55:43 The successful criminal brain is always superior. It's just like, yeah. And the successful criminal brain spent 10% of your budget on a window for BIP. It's just, it's so, again, someone at Spectre is like, why are we giving this guy money? Why, yeah. And like, we don't, that's the other fun thing, we don't know anything about Spectre is like, why are we giving this guy money? Why? Yeah. And, like, that's the other fun thing. We don't know anything about Spectre other than their stupid ass name.
Starting point is 00:56:09 But, like, so we have Bond beaten, right? And thrown in jail. And then Bond plays fucking Hitman 3 like I do. Which is to say, he busts out of his cell by virtue of, like, kicking the world's flimsiest great off. He uses his shoes. Thanks, Quarrel. Yep. Climbs through a series of
Starting point is 00:56:34 ducts, finds a guy in one of the weird, like, Tesco bag-ass hazmat suits that they're all wearing because of the radiation, and just kind of like, hugs him until he can take his clothes yeah Bond learns a new attack he levels up
Starting point is 00:56:49 this is the thing it's not the first time it's not the first time because he gets to do this once before when they're fleeing across the salt marsh he like very gently hugs a man from behind and cradles him down into the water without visibly harming him at all oh it's like a contextual button press stealth attack yeah
Starting point is 00:57:10 and honey rider is like i can't believe you did that did what and bond's just like because i it's like half implied that he's that he kills him but i can't see how like he took the knife of honey rider in that scene and then he just kind of like makes the guy lie down it fucking rules and it cuts to honey rider and this we're going way back but it cuts to honey rider in this and she just goes like why she's looking completely off to the side it's like he just sort of like pushed him over in the previous scene honey rider confessed to a murder she says yeah she says oh I murdered my landlord, yeah. My landlord rapist.
Starting point is 00:57:47 Worst kind of landlord. So, I mean, Bond gets this hazmat suit, which obscures his face not much at all, and he wanders into the world's best decorated nuclear reactor. It's a sick set. It's actually a phenomenal set.
Starting point is 00:58:04 It's a fucking... It fucking goes so hard, man. It's like this this beautiful poured concrete, every second surface has a big flashing light on it that says Danger level maximum or something. And in the middle of this is Dr. No wearing a plastic bag over his head because of the radiation. Because for some reason, not only do you need a nuclear reactor that irradiates the whole fucking island it's on, but to use that nuclear reactor, you need to be in the same room as them.
Starting point is 00:58:42 You don't want to put a cover on that or something? Like, no, no, we spent all the budget on a window you can just you can just have that in another building but no no i have to i have to line up with all of my guys next to the nuclear reactor a successful criminal brain is always not just that it's that like the big switch to turn on the nuclear reactor is on like a gantry. It's a crank. It's a hand crank. So they are in the process of make rocket fall down.
Starting point is 00:59:12 And 10 feet away is just an open nuclear reactor. And I can't help but feel that even if you had a radiation suit, that's not going to work, man. No wonder you lost your hands. He put so much of his money into that fucking window it was just like we don't have any shielding for the reactor and also we can't afford a second room bond fucking fudges every stealth role across this room right he picks up some documents that they just have in the nuclear reactor room and he's just kind of like perusing them and walking around and looking like the most suspicious motherfucker you've seen in your life
Starting point is 00:59:52 he's almost that's a that's a a going theme in this movie is that no one knows how to look casual like the the three blind mice guys are constantly looking completely suspicious the whole way around. The guy, the sweating guy. Even in the intro where the guy walks across and then shoots at the fucking camera, the classic introduction to James Bond, his walk is so suspicious. And then... Well, because that's not an actor. That's Bond's stuntman. They just did it last minute.
Starting point is 01:00:23 No one knows how to be casual. It's so funny how shit it looks when you can see it in HD now. So, yeah, I highly recommend that. But, yeah, no, Bond gets fucking... He gets his disguise blown by Dr. No, who thinks he's a guy called Chang, because everyone is Chinese. Again, important note.
Starting point is 01:00:43 This guy... I cannot stress enough, this man is chinese who has specifically said he's not working with the east all of his guys are just chinese for some reason chinese he's like doctor no's like chang why aren't you wearing your yellow face and maybe we should take the second to stress that doctor no is wearing makeup that makes him look a little bit more chinese he's got like yeah he's a canadian man in yellow face he's got like um something above his eye to make it look like he doesn't have a fold there and nothing else also he is dressed like chairman mao the whole time he is dressed like chairman mao but wearing a plastic bag over his head and he busts
Starting point is 01:01:22 bond stroke chang like skulking and essentially just tells him yeah just go to work go go get across the room and go to the big switch that make reactor go yes it's incredible which one does right and my favorite part is the guy working next to him who has my exact physique it's just a guy it's just kind of a schlubby guy with a paunch wearing a plastic bag it's fully see-through that guy's entire thing it's so funny and he's just like wearing a t-shirt and shorts underneath yeah yeah i came here from podcast i'm safe as hell right now man He's come from the beach Oh yeah also Sorry Honey Rider's just getting Shells that's why she's on the beach
Starting point is 01:02:12 Yeah she likes shells Because she has the mind of a child She's like this is worth $50 What's she doing right now We don't know She's somewhere else Who care So as Dr. Noah's preparing to knock the rocket over,
Starting point is 01:02:30 Bond turns a big crank, moving a danger level meter past the level that says danger. It says nothing else on it, merely danger level, and he's like, ah, this should go to the right. So he does that, the podcast guy tries to fight him, and for that, this kind of like schlubby guy is my hero, right, because he gets, Bond presses the B button, and like Judo throws him off the edge of the gantry and he just fucking dies. 10 foot drop. Again, 10 foot drop. 10 foot drop, he he just fucking dies. Ten foot drop. Again, ten foot drop.
Starting point is 01:03:06 Ten foot drop, he's just fucking gone. This is in the wild one of the only examples of turning a big wheel that says something and looking back at Dr. No like a contestant on The Price is Right. He's just rotating this big fucking thing that says danger rating and checking over his shoulder every couple of seconds. But what's also very funny is all these podcast henchmen have quite clearly been trained very well, because an alarm sounds, and all
Starting point is 01:03:30 the henchmen just fucking bail. They just drop what you're doing. They just exit stage right and go. Except for Dr. No, who is like, I gotta fist fight this guy with my metal hands. Yeah, he has the advantage.
Starting point is 01:03:47 Yeah. So he climbs on top of the gantry over this open nuclear reactor. They fist fight. Bond judo throws him off the gantry because he's got one move! Bond uses the heavy attack. He uses the heavy attack. He throws him over the thing.
Starting point is 01:04:02 He presses A again. And Dr. No is like, he's trying to climb out of the boiling reactive water, and he can't get any purchase on the thing because, and I cannot stress this enough, no hands. So the lesson of... We can't all be geniuses, can we? Tell me, does the toppling of American missiles really compensate for having no hands i guess this movie is having no hands do not be disabled is a problem for you if you have if you have a disability it will be your undoing in the ultimate life this starts a
Starting point is 01:04:39 this starts a trend that continues right even into the modern day james bond we'll get to the fucking die another day wheelchair thing we'll get to the fucking die another day wheelchair it's very richard the third is that all the bond villains have some kind of physical deformity yeah right but anyway the base is exploding and he finds honey rider tied to the floor for some reason yeah it's like i'd say it's like a two out of ten damsels in distress i will point out one detail. In the original script, she was intended to be menaced by crabs. And the crabs that they got in Jamaica had been shipped internationally in frozen containers,
Starting point is 01:05:16 and so they just had a bunch of sluggish crabs who didn't want to act in a very aggressive way. And so they were just like, yeah like yeah no we'll just have him try and drown her instead so she's like chained up they didn't want to wait for the crabs to warm up the room that James walks into where Honey Rider is it feels like there was a scene that just didn't
Starting point is 01:05:38 happen there she's clearly in the crab scene I suppose she's clearly in like a set up and he just walks in Yeah, the crab scene. Yeah, the crab scene, I suppose, yeah. She's clearly in, like, a set-up, and he just walks in and goes, Jesus, and just lets her out, and then they leave. Yeah, they did all of this bondage stuff. He's like, we'll just skip this scene.
Starting point is 01:05:57 And so on the way out, he does a series of heavy and light attacks against people. There's one moment where he collars a guy, where he's trying to find out where Ryder is. He's like, where is she? He's like, oh, no. He punches him to the floor. And then another henchman executes the sickest jump I've seen. Yeah! Just over his friend's body.
Starting point is 01:06:19 He's just like, yeah, fuck this shit. I'm out. And then, fortunately, Bond finds a woman he can grab, to ask where... Yeah, he grabs the nearest woman, who is, like, in my opinion, significantly more attractive than any of the quote-unquote Bond girls in this movie. 100%. But she is black, so, like, that, no. Of course. So, yeah, he's just like, where is she?
Starting point is 01:06:41 And he, like, unbuckles her from this James Bondage. He's just like, where is she? And he unbuckles her from this James Bondage. Punches his way to the exit, having just fucking shinobled a decent part of Jamaica. Yeah, I just want to point out that Bond has exploded a nuclear reactor in the Caribbean
Starting point is 01:06:56 Ocean. First of all, he's dead. He's got cancer within five years. He's fully dead. Oh yeah. They just put him in the shower and they like scrubbed him once with that brush. Yeah, it's fine. Which is how you get rid of radiation. Jamaica and a large section of the ocean
Starting point is 01:07:09 is now permanently irradiated. He should have just let Dr. Noam make Rocket fall down and escaped and said, hey, I know who made Rocket fall down. You can build this and just stop Rocket fall down. Yeah. You should have just escaped and said, hey, I found out who's making rocket fall down.
Starting point is 01:07:26 You'll never believe it. It's a Canadian man and yellow fish in the Caribbean. No. Also, I caused a nuclear reactor meltdown off the coast of Jamaica. Sorry. This is an island that is so radioactive that they get irradiated from running around on it and getting mud under their fingernails and stuff.
Starting point is 01:07:43 Because Dr. No can't afford another room! Couldn't afford any shielding! Because he spent all his money on a window! Yeah, and he's just sent that fucking island into the atmosphere! Oh, fuck, that window is probably the sleeper bad guy of the fucking movie. Yeah, like, genuinely, Doctor No looking at the control panel with two buttons, million dollar window, or reactive shielding, and is just firmly pressing. He's like, buddy, I know what I want.
Starting point is 01:08:12 Yeah, I do what I want, and what I want is to look at some giant fish. I wanna see some fucking fish, dude! Giant fish. Bond punches his way onto a convenient boat. Guys are like, this is the original, like, evil-based blow-up thing. There's guys diving off of piers. It's all done in miniature. It's really well done, all things considered.
Starting point is 01:08:34 This thing blows the fuck up, and then his mate Felix Leiter shows up, and is like, would you like some rescue? No thanks. I am going to fuck this child-brained woman in this boat. Bond shags in a boat. There's a weird number of Bond films
Starting point is 01:08:50 with him shagging in a boat. It happens quite often. Yeah. This is the first. We don't even get a James Bond will return. We just get a the end. We never get a debrief. He never goes back to England and M's like, good work, Bond. You made Rocket not fall down.
Starting point is 01:09:09 We see on the TV that Rocket no fall down rocket rocket goes straight up so we know we did well we see fine work 007 we see rocket go up and that's it did rocket fall down did rocket fall down i can't talk to you now i'm shagging this child-brained woman in a boat. Ah, very well. Does she still have the shelves? He's cheated her out of $50. Fucked up. Oh, God. So we have...
Starting point is 01:09:40 What we have on this podcast is a system, right? We're not just going to say, oh, this Bond movie is bad, right? We're not just going to say, oh, this Bond movie is bad, right? We have a system. We're going to rate them out of 007 on the four attributes of Bond. Smum, cultural insensitivity, unprovoked violence, and misogyny. The scum spectrum. The scum spectrum. So how do you think dr no falls
Starting point is 01:10:07 in terms of smum i think i am it's not the smarmiest james bond ever gets i think i'm gonna give him a five out of seven it's mom i i kind of agree right because he connery is like pulling the smarm out, he will smirk at everything, especially the whole uh, it's a dragon is it thing, but like, there's an air of vulnerability to Bond in this that just will not come back until Casino Royale, basically. So I think, lower on the smarm, cultural insensitivity. I put, I'm looking at a full 7 seven out of seven. Seven out of seven. Like the instinct.
Starting point is 01:10:46 What if the Chinese woman was white, but also Chinese and then Chinese? We want to have a Chinese woman as a main character, but also we would hate to employ a Chinese woman. So we've got a white woman in a bamboo house. Yeah. And then all of the black guy being, all of Quarrel,
Starting point is 01:11:08 let's put some respect on his name, being instinct driven. Like he makes this point several times when he's being asked to just give them navigation directions to Crab Key and they'll go himself. So they don't have to come to the island. He's just like, yeah, no, I navigate with my senses. I get my navigation from my nose, my eyes, my instincts. Then later on, when they're about to set off at night, Bond's like, we'll be fine. And he goes, where my belly used to be tells me different.
Starting point is 01:11:37 And it's like they take every single step to make sure we know for a fucking fact that this guy is less than Bond, both intellectually and physically. This is the most imperial Bond movie by a long shot because when it was made this was still like a thing like jamaica was not a nation it was a colony a crown colony yeah and it was it was still a crown colony you still had these clubs full of white guys in shorts sitting around being like oh yes one pedophilia please well this is this is what i mean when i say that when james bond films are bad they're bad in ways that reflect the society that made them and that's that's why i think they're kind of interesting culture and in this ever-changing world in which we live
Starting point is 01:12:14 now unprovoked violence not very low like he as i say he has two moves, but he only ever really seems to deploy those moves when somebody is a direct obstacle to him. With the exception of the professor, which is just murder. Yes, that's true. He does murder a guy straight up. I think that's going to boost it. Let's say a six, maybe? Out of seven? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:39 I would say so, because the murder offsets a lot of- I genuinely believe it to be a one or two out of seven. I think he does get a lot more violent later on. I want to give us room to go way up. All right, you know what? Fine. I concede the point. So we'll say a one or a two in unprovoked violence. Now, misogyny.
Starting point is 01:12:58 Oh, where do we start? Again, he does get a lot more misogynist later on. There aren't, I would say, Again, he does get a lot more misogynist later on. There aren't, I would say, and this is very sort of fluid. It's entirely dependent on your own sort of ethics here. I would say that there aren't outright rapes in this movie. I don't think Bond is on screen vitiating anybody's consent, which he will do later, one million percent.
Starting point is 01:13:27 Yeah, there are some explicit links later in the series. Talking about the misogyny of this movie, we have to decide, are we talking about the misogyny of Bond, or the misogyny of the movie, because that is definitely two different things. The movie...
Starting point is 01:13:42 I would say that there's less miss in this misogyny, because it's much more straightforwardly just a sexual fantasy, and that everybody wants to fucking get railed by Bond. And that persists through all of the movies, but like, yeah, the grimmer stuff that we're gonna talk about, especially like later Connery, there's fully, like, it's just made explicit that women are not into Bond and he's just fucking them, whatever. But, like, in this case, everybody from Moneypenny on down wants the D. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:15 And is, like, willing to do pretty much whatever for it. Yeah, and also, you know, comes on to him and takes part in it. I mean, I want to give it a few points for Honey Rider's child brain. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think the movie itself is more misogynistic than Bond is. Just through how the women are portrayed. Bond himself at least seems, in most of the cases, for things to be consensual.
Starting point is 01:14:42 He even straight up tells Honey Rider, oh, my intentions are strictly honorable and although that's not true it's more than he ever bothers to do later there's one one point i want to bring up just to sort of drive home the misogyny of the the movie itself and the production is that the character sylvia trench and money penny those actresses were originally supposed to be playing each other's character they were swapped when the director of this movie who i don't care for his name and i don't i'll never credit him said that the character who ended up playing sylvia trench quote smelled of sex which is why she got given the smarmy a job so the movie itself is is fucking horrendous
Starting point is 01:15:28 in its treatment of of women in its treatment of cultural minorities yeah yeah um so apart from our our patented scum a patented scum uh spectrum which upon, this comes out fairly well. We've eased into the Bond canon. It's a total score of 17. Not one of the most egregious. How was this movie to watch? How did we enjoy watching it?
Starting point is 01:15:58 Well, I... Go ahead. I find it kind of middling. It has a long, sort of dry spell in the middle. There's like... I appreciate that there's more intrigue than you usually get in a Bond movie, I appreciate that there's more threat than you usually get in a Bond movie, but like, it takes a fucking while. Like, it's a two hour movie, and it feels like it could have lost a half hour.
Starting point is 01:16:22 Definitely. Yeah, I was skipping through parts when I watched through it the second time. On the other hand, though, I think it's worth retaining in the canon or whatever, purely because of that dinner conversation over two grapes each with Dr. No.
Starting point is 01:16:40 Where, I mean, you're not going to get a better critique of James Bond in the james bond movies and i include the modern daniel craig ones with that than you are just a stupid policeman i mean fucking get his ass yeah it was a nice place to start because i i alluded at the start that there's two reasons i find the bond films interesting one political which we explored and one personal and the the personal one has a hauntological dimension to it as well and that's because um when i first went to drama school and began my professional acting career i remember them telling me at drama school your casting is period hottie
Starting point is 01:17:18 sexy doctor or discount hiddleston and i remember somebody they did that's what they told me or discount Hiddleston. And I remember somebody, they did. That's what they told me. I remember somebody telling me, you are going to play James Bond someday. That's what,
Starting point is 01:17:32 that's what your career can be aimed at. But then of course, something happened to me as it happened to Alice and to Dan. I feel like you still can. A very strange thing happened, which is that I found out I was a woman. So that's why there is this kind of hauntology to the bond series for me so it's quite interesting to look back and and see bond not as a kind of mythical ideal of masculinity or something to be aimed at because you know as i said at the start alice and i we've been in that world we've lived that kind of life this this podcast is a little
Starting point is 01:18:01 bit of therapy for us we are kind of sc scourging ourselves of this dickhead who plotted out the course of what masculinity was supposed to be like, and so we're doing this all-trans feminist podcast. To kill James Bond. That's right. We have to kill the Bond in our heads, And that's what we're gonna fucking do. And we're gonna get into, like, the fucking character and the inner life of the women around James Bond. We're gonna do all 24 movies. We're gonna have a Patreon. Including the one with a trans Bond girl.
Starting point is 01:18:38 We're gonna have a Patreon where the deal is, we've invented a totally unique podcasting system which no one has ever done before where if you subscribe to our patreon you get a bonus episode per free episode and those bonus episodes are going to be about things let's say that the deuterocanonical bonds so our first bonus episode which should be coming out the same time as this is going to be about bonus episode which should be coming out the same time as this is going to be about GoldenEye 64 we do have a guest lined up for that but
Starting point is 01:19:09 we can't say yet but when you hear this it will probably be out so we don't have to say either just head on over to the Patreon we'll find it reasonably priced we may also do some Q& a episodes at some point absolutely
Starting point is 01:19:28 yeah we'll vibe it out we'll see how we do well this has been episode one was expecting a a funnier name than just dr no to shake out in the thing but like i guess we're just calling it dr no dr no on the adventure of the million dollar window dollar window you needed to see those fish man and of course james bond will return as will we as we investigate the next bond movie in the season i believe it's from russia with love from russia i will have Love. From Russia with love. I will have watched From Russia With Love in preparation for it, so it better be. Let's just say it's From Russia With Love, and if we're wrong, it is From Russia With Love. Perfect.
Starting point is 01:20:17 This is great. This is good. This is a good ending. Do you want to plug yourselves in case anyone doesn't know who you are, Abby? Nobody doesn't know, and she's singing. Once trans women get like this, I'm afraid we're... Yeah, we're going to have to stop before we start singing as well. Yes. And I just want to...
Starting point is 01:20:36 It's a fantastic song. If I've said anything interesting or cogent, I can almost guarantee it came about in conversation with a girlfriend of the show, my girlfriend, Eliane, while we were watching it the first time. I am not as smart as I came across. Dev has used up that plug already.
Starting point is 01:20:54 There is one detail that I want to add as a closing note. You already know who we are. I don't feel any need to introduce ourselves again or plug the Patreon again. I merely want to point out that at an early scene professor dent accidentally borats check this shit out that secretary of his was very nice very nice very nice very nice bye everyone Very nice. Very nice. Bye, everyone.
Starting point is 01:21:26 Bye.

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