Kill James Bond! - Episode 24: Casino Royale (2006)
Episode Date: January 4, 2022What happens when Mads Mikkelsen's attempt to invest Joseph Kony's money on shorting airline stock is foiled? Well, he'll have to organise a high-stakes poker game at the Casino Royale in Montenegro, ...of course! And there's only one man who can possibly infiltrate the game and stop him (Due to, and im not kidding here, the reasoning 'someone said you're the best at poker at the office').... James Bond. It's another reboot, it's another guy, it's another Casino Royale! And as a result of calling this guest spot literally a full year in advance- joining the boys is the one and only Phoebe Roy! Find Phoebe at https://twitter.com/prhroy And listen to 10K Posts at https://twitter.com/10kpostspod AND listen to Masters of Our Domain, with previous guest Milo Edwards, at https://twitter.com/mastersofpod Find bonus episode at our reasonably-priced patreon! https://www.patreon.com/killjamesbond *WEB DESIGN ALERT* Tom Allen is a friend of the show (and the designer behind our website). If you need web design help, reach out to him here:  https://www.tomallen.media/ Find us at https://killjamesbond.com and https://twitter.com/killjamesbond
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I'm gonna be classically at Rome when I enter Devon mode.
Who am I?
The Hoffner.
Never heard of her.
You're insane, my child.
Fight insane.
All right, all right. We're sorry, okay? Wait, listen.
I'm fucking sorry.
This was, you know what, another of my, this was, this was the best thing we've ever
done easily.
It wasn't even close.
Hello and welcome to another casino royale episode of Killed James Bond.
We have to do the real one now, because we're genuinely worried the fans will kill us with a gun,
if we don't talk about this movie.
I am Alice Kool-Tool Kelly, joining me are Abigail Thorn and Devon.
This is Casino Royale, or in France, as it was known.
Casino Royale was cheese, yes.
And joining us once again for a second episode.
Yes, exactly. Casino Royale was cheese.
Or in English speaking territories,
Bondman begins.
Phoebe Roy is joining us.
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This is, this makes, by the way, for the benefit of listeners.
Phoebe is our single longest running guest.
I believe you asked to be on this episode.
Yeah. Maybe even a year ago.
Yeah.
And you have been waiting patiently.
When you said longest running guest,
I thought that it is the most
A episode the guest has been on consecutively too, so you have like a real streak
You've built yeah also the shortest notice and the longest notice guest we've ever had
Yeah, if you if you come on quantum of solace you're actually unlock an AC-130 that you can then use against the listeners
Right
You get to join the podcast with Maddy Lubchansky. That's right.
Oh, I'm scared. Now we're happy to gift you this white Bentley. Okay, we super ultra
double promise we're not going to fake you out again. So with that in mind, the 1967
David Niven film Casino Royale. I mean, I'm in black and white. I thought I was going to be a little bit of a movie.
The thing is, I wrote down first this thing, it's an actual film, huh?
Like an actual capital F film. They invented making good films sometime before 2006.
And so, yeah, we started Prague in spooky black and white and we get a sort of third man sequence where this guy
Dryden goes to his office
And he finds none other than Jimmy Bond's
Now played by Daniel Craig in his office who tells him I
Know you've been stealing. I know you've been selling secrets,
M sent me to kill you.
He goes, nah, I was doing all the double-oage.
And it's sort of like surprisingly cribbed
from the Bond years kind of performance.
It's like very sort of dated MI6 smug.
And yeah, and Bond goes,
yeah, no, I killed your guy in a bathroom in like a black and white fight scene.
And what's funny is that Bond is sort of explaining this diagecically to the guy who's about to kill.
No, it's fun, it's cool because the guy is just like, they'd have sent a double-o,
and you don't have any kills on your record. To be a double-o, you'd have to have, and Daniel Craig goes, two.
And we get the flashback of him killing the first guy.
Yeah, and presumably this is meant to cover him sitting in the office and going,
yeah, and then he dropped a gun, he picked it up, I did this call.
That smashed his head into the face.
It was cool.
Sick.
Sick nasty.
At first, I thought that it was supposed to be like a riff
on 1960s Bond villains explaining their like villainous plan
to bond.
And thereby having their plan for the last minute.
But as I was watching it, I was like, no, it's great.
Doesn't understand what's going on.
And he's having to talk himself through the entire scene. Hmm, absolutely.
He's like, he's also, he's very convincing in this first scene.
And that like, that was all I needed to sell me on like annual Craig is born.
The rest of this movie is like, this, this is the correct level of like origin story that
you need is one scene.
That was to the character is. Okay, bye.
We now do the movie. I genuinely really enjoyed this a great deal because he's like the
opposite spy to him, dry, dry mouth and singler is doing this really good, quite fatherly
thing where he's just like a major work for it to do. He's like, yeah, he goes, don't
worry. He didn't worry. The second one is usually and then he gets shot.
But he was going to say easier, like he's being like a quite a professionally
courteous moment there where he's just like, yeah, you're going to kill me.
I want to make this one hard for you, man.
Yeah, and bonds killer line there is yes, considerably,
after the guy is dead, just talking to a corpse.
It's like, yeah, great, perfect.
That's James Bond, that's James Bond, baby.
There he is.
That's fucking James Bond.
No notes about this scene.
And this is where we also see that Daniel Craig
has really got a good take on where the smarmin' bond comes from.
So whereas Sean Connery really didn't care about human life
and Roger Moore was just cracking jokes for no reason. Craig makes these jokes because he really didn't care about human life. And Roger Moore was just kind of like cracking jokes for no reason.
Craig makes these jokes because he really like doesn't care
about his own life.
Like he doesn't really value human life
including his own, which is why he keeps making his lines.
And I think that works really well.
I think it's a really solid choice.
His acting is so good.
Yeah, he's cavalier.
He's reckless.
It's a great scene.
So we have to follow this like great three-minute opening with another
I'd like I think for my money the best open titles since like Golden Eye.
Still not as good as the Beastars song you said it to on the account dev, but
I mean that's why it works so well is because this one just fully admits that bond openings are the same as anime openings.
Yeah, absolutely.
You get the same kind of beats in it, but you wouldn't have an anime opening and it worked pretty well.
Yeah, so we get like a sort of like this like a sexy woman, it tends into a dog.
Yeah, it's called an A Bond.
Absolutely.
It's a casino themed like, you know, like,
it sets of cards and like, we let we all think it's great.
Fine. And then we move on to Uganda,
where I reflexively like, tent stuff like, oh, okay, we're, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, we're gonna, oh, no, no. Yeah, the second the fucking subtitle for location
was like, hey, Uganda, I was like,
fuck, they've remembered Africa exists.
Oh God, oh God.
Yeah, no, I mean, it could have been a lot worse,
but like, what we see is Joseph Coney, essentially.
You're a him?
Do we ever find that guy?
I don't know if we did.
I don't think so.
Well, he has, he has.
He's only 2012 as well.
That's just six years early.
Just as it's going to be right in if you're listening to the pod.
Yeah.
And he's here tonight.
Yeah, we send you a cronstein or is that just give us the location to ship it to.
Um, so we see see we see this warlord. He's never actually named in the movie. Yeah, but the name in
the script is Stephen Obano, but we're going to call him Joseph Koney. He has like child soldiers
and he's talking to a spooky white guy in a suit. Oh, no. Yeah, who is essentially all but says, yeah, I'm a member of Specter.
Specter?
Yeah, he repeated like that.
He says, my organization.
My organization.
I remember a name.
Specter.
He's a legal reason.
Yeah, Specter.
And I'm going to introduce you to this guy who's gonna be your stockbroker.
And Maz Michelson enters the fucking movie.
And he is Lysheef. God, I've been waiting for Maz all year.
Mm-hmm, I've been great.
He's a banker for the kind of bad guys in villains,
which is to say he's a banker.
Yeah, he's a bad guy banker.
But what I love about Mad is that, again, they kind of want to do, because he's got a thing
down the center of his eye, which means he can only see out of one eye, right?
So they kind of want to do the old style, disfigurement equals evil,
but they can't quite bring themselves to do it properly. So instead they give him an Asmr and Hala and like, and I think that is a very very funny piece of
This is villainous
What was second Mr Bond? They have to take out my retainer here. Yeah
And he's got a silver Asmr and and I'm just watching it. That's like you.
Where do you get that?
I just rolled around the back of my eye.
It's great.
It's great.
So like, yeah, we're once again going with disfigured as villainy.
I have some thoughts about that later.
But in the meantime, Lachee for a takes Joseph Coney's money.
He says, OK, I'm going to invest this.
I'm going to like double your returns or whatever
zero risk to you
And he loads it into the thing and and and specters sort of wash their hands of him that like we just make the introductions here
Um, and at this point I wrote down. Oh fuck this is just it's just gonna be a competent thriller movie isn't that we see him get on the phone to his
Bank or an invested in game stock. Yeah. He puts it all on his e-coin.
Is it going nowhere but up buddy?
You got a hold?
Absolutely.
If you still have this stock, keep holding.
Stay strong.
I'm just going at this point.
I have to talk for an hour and a bit about a good film that I enjoy watching.
So we now go...
Risk of the Monde bonds.
We now go to Madagascar.
I think which I absolutely do not want to do.
Do not lay this today.
No, it is Madagascar.
Thank God this is in English. It is in like Asuka.
Where we see a bunch of people watching a Mongoose fight a snake so that you know that
this is a barbarous location and the people crave violence, you know.
And Mongoose.
And more things.
And Mongoose.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Where Bond.
Bond and Prave.
It doesn't appear. We've got some stuff. Who doesn't crave a Mongoose? Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. Where bond bond and the
doesn't crave a mongoose.
Absolutely.
The the mongoose craving is like
possibly the most relatable thing
here. But bond and this guy
Carter, who is an idiot,
a watching a bomb.
Madagascan mongoose has always
been celebrated for
sex. Yeah, 009 rolls into the
air of the embassy with a mongoose.
So they're watching this bomb maker, right?
And he gets a text in red letters, so you know, it's spooky.
On his Nokia 3310, which says,
On his fucking end, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Which says, ellipsis, which if you don't know
as the like three full stops that you used
to indicate a pause, not sure why you wouldn't just use
the dots anyway, that's his like call signs
and go and be activated.
So he leaves and then immediately makes Bond's
partner, because he's stuck like an idiot
being the only other white guy there
with his finger on his earpiece.
Also the only other white guy who's like yelling, who's like yelling the crow has left the nest into his earpiece.
Like a series of films about car to be honest. I will. Exactly this level of like seriousness and like war on terror shit, but it's about a guy who's just done everything. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. That is double or nine. What I want is a film about the regular
assassination attempts against, against Castro led by agent Carter. That's what I
want. I would at least slump and injecting yourself with the shellfish poison.
I would at least slip and inject in yourself with the shellfish poison. The season finale is that Carter does sleep with Castro.
You finally decide to do it in person.
He's just like, God, he's just...
No one is allowed to write this.
Pan-pending, pan-pending, trademark.
Okay, so at this point, what happens is,
John Parker, being a big thing in 2006,
Matt Hancock was going like,
I can't do those sorts of flips
because he was still a secretary of culture, media, and sport.
But this movie was very...
It's a great way to learn about your body.
And so this bomb maker sets off to learn about his body
all the way through a construction site with bond in the role of sort of Terminator
The sequence is so good
So it's so fun good. It's the really annoying thing
But the thing is right the idea isn't new bond as Terminator has been something that the you know
The series has played with before most notably in terms ofnan. And that's one of my biggest beefs
with the way this movie is talked about,
is people go, I was a whole new level of like seriousness.
And it's like, we'll sure, compared to like,
die another day.
But Golden, I did this exact same thing with a tank, right?
Like, it's the same thing of what Bond is this
unstoppable force pursuing you. It's not new. It's continuity same thing with white bond is this unstoppable force pursuing you.
It's not new. It's continuity.
Contrast. It's not just that he's unstoppable though.
It's not just that he's unstoppable.
It's that the parkour guy is doing all like flips and intricate shit.
And we're learning a lot about Bond's character because he always does things that are like very
brushed. Like he gets in a bulldozer or just like go straight through the wall, it's telling us that he is like he's like blunt, a blunt instrument,
a phrase that the movie will use later and that I will have a lot of things to say about.
Oh yeah. I have a note here, well actually I have two notes here about this scene. One of them
is that Daniel Craig runs like he has lower back pain. And the second is that I feel like it's not,
it's not quite right to see Bond running at all. I don't think I don't think Bond should
run. It's undignified. Contrast this with the fucking bit in view to a kill.
When he runs up the lead, he's just leap-shocking up his case.
My only real knowledge about this scene is that like when he falls off a roof, he
makes a weird like, oh, nice. Which, which I did have. It's, it's quite deeply into
the music. He gets winded, he does. Yeah, and he, yeah, he goes like this. Oh
Squid
Waving my mouth around like boss now
The thing the thing about Daniel Craig's 007 is that he did choose to play on the horse. How fucking quickly can we start talking about horses on the giant horseman?
Every time, Dev, it's always happens, which is have to just accept that that's always
going to happen.
It just comes back to horses.
So bond chases the bond maker towards the embassy of a fictional country,
which means you know their sovereignty is about to get violated.
I thought it was Namibia.
No, no.
No, it's a pretend country.
Not the same one as in, say, living like die.
Should have been sound. Yeah.
That would have been a good call.
And yeah, no, I just miss. I got, I got a N A M B and it was like, no, maybe I got it.
Easy. Sure. So bond like immediately sets about violating this offer and see. He,
he jumps into the embassy, he beats up a couple of guys, finds the bomb maker he wants,
grabs him and makes his way for the exit while everyone
shoosing at him, right?
Yes.
And it goes wrong for him because he's reckless.
He gets backed into a corner and he ends up shoosing the bomb maker he was trying to take
alive in the back of the head while he's unarmed and then blowing up part of the embassy to make good his escape and it's all on
CCTV, they caught Bond in 4k.
Got him.
And I mean, at this point, you would think, yes, since we're talking about a more grounded,
more realistic Bond.
It was a different, like, your career is over at this point, right?
Like, you get disappeared.
I mean, even Emma says this in the next scene, she's like, no,
any old days an agent who did something this fucking dumb would at least have the courtesy to defect.
You don't like even if you don't like go to jail or something,
you don't like you work in MI6's basement licking stamps for the rest of your life.
I think you get found having mysteriously been able to zip yourself into a sports bag and
then shoot yourself in the head.
I think that's what they do.
That's what they do.
Absolutely.
That's what they do.
Absolutely.
And I mean, there's nothing much to say about the way.
We see that this incident makes the newspapers and I think we're fools if we pretend that
the British public wouldn't immediately just be like this man as a hero, give him a medal.
Like Bond would have a right when you crowdfund her up.
Well, by the end of the day, he'd be living large.
That's true.
But like, I don't know.
There's nothing much else to say about this being like a fantasy of violating sovereignty
because Bond's always been that.
And it's like, is it racist or kind of?
Less than Bond has been in the past, but whatever. Now, we cut to the sheifer who is playing poker on his fucking mega yacht.
And now I want to talk about this fucking bit.
Walking on his asthma in Halo.
He's absolutely hinking off that asthma in Halo. Thank you, man. Thank you, man. That Astman, Haylon, but also, we get the most cake
and cake having and eating line in the series since.
Because I think you're a sexist,
misogynist dinosaur, a relic of the Cold War.
Which is, he's playing poker, right?
Fuck, I hate.
With his fucking like facial disfigurement
and he starts weeping blood at the table and he goes,
Weeping blood comes merely from the arrangement of the cheer doctor, my dear gentleman.
Nothing sinister.
Now, you know, think this is slightly undercut by the fact that there's sinister music happening.
The most sinister man you've ever met, this is a sinister,
just normal.
Tirely in black.
Yeah, you know, I'm sure this figureman doesn't make me evil. most sinister man you've ever met. This is a sinister. There's a normal, entirely in black.
Yeah, you know, a facial disfigurement doesn't make me evil.
I just also happen to be the only one in the movie
with a facial disfigurement.
Just it's normal when you think about it.
And then lightning strikes perfectly behind him.
It's like, dude.
Apart from the other guy, the bomb maker
who had one and is also evil.
You do?
Yeah.
Oh, I forgot.
Oh, my god.
Yeah, the bomb maker has facial to speak of the two.
Ah, okay.
So, the bombs.
Yes.
So, LaShifa finds out that like the bomb maker
who was gonna work for him has been killed.
And also, there's a big picture of him getting killed
by James Bond, which LaShifa looks at on a Sony Vio laptop.
This is, listen, the weirdest thing about this movie is that it is Sony Vio laptop
of the movie. Um,
if you have great screen caps of guys on laptops, but always Sony Vio laptops, because
it's like, yeah, big sponsorship. So at this point, we can only
assume that he's using it. So it's a 30 hour. Yeah. That's true.
So, Syrikson, big ladders above the screen. Nice music. So, M, right, M is like
forced to go to the joint intelligence committee in Parliament. And on the way
out, she vents, thusly.
I report to the Prime Minister,
and even he smart enough not to ask me what we do.
Now that's some fucking ideology, baby.
We're into the Cold War.
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If you're over the Bondy, if you're over James Bond, then you remember that a lot of the
time, uh, Brosnan had to investigate guys and it was like, Oh, the Prime Minister's friends
with him. So you have to be incredibly careful, right? And now that attitude towards Powell,
which is like, Oh, we go around them because they might be compromised is instead just naked contempt, right?
MI6 just sort of like organizes itself
and that's just kind of like accepted.
No one wants to know that we shoot guys
in the back of the head, so yeah.
M is on screen for genuinely, I think five seconds
before she has a line or something
where she's reminiscing about the Cold War.
Yeah, that's a lot of lines.
She's been thinking,
is an accurate characterization of her my sex.
Yeah, she says, I missed the Cold War.
So,
we'll,
mm-hmm.
And she's like,
well, where is Bond anyway,
so I can yell at him,
then goes home and finds Jane Bond
in her fucking house,
which he has just let himself into.
No boundaries.
That's that's bonds problem.
Yeah.
There's a sort of a side to bond that's only in this one and is like, he's bought at
any point previously.
Now, it's not in any of the rest of the movie is either where he's like, he's just genuinely
quite good at intelligence gathering.
And then it's implied a couple of times because like, M's like, how the fuck did you know where I live?
And he's like, same way I found out what your name was.
And she's like, if you tell me, my name, I will shoot you with a gun.
Which is the correct response.
That's right.
I like to think that the cold war was like M's party.
I thought Devin was a randomly assigned county.
I have no idea.
It's good for...
F***.
This point, this one is, I'm afraid, that I have to activate Devon mode and deliver a
short lecture on the Iraq war.
That's good.
Because in this scene, M chose out Bond and she calls him, yeah, she calls him a blunt instrument. And at this point, M. Chews Out Bond and she calls him a blunt instrument.
And at this point, I must...
Okay, so this film came out in 2006.
For listeners who were too young to remember,
the Iraq War began in 2003,
and it was originally billed as we are going to go into Iraq,
get rid of Saddam Hussein,
and get rid of his stockpiles or weapons of mass destruction.
By 2006, it was very clear to everyone that no such weapons ever existed and this was a lie. And also Saddam, yeah, Saddam was already on trial and everyone and like people kept dying,
people kept seeing their kids coming home in pine boxes and the public was getting a little bit
tired of the war. So some new consent had to be manufactured
of the consent manufacturing factory. And the way that this was done is they said we're
going to put a new guy in charge of the Iraq invasion, General Patreas, and we are going
to be smart, we're going to be tactical, we're going to use laser-guided bombs, it's going
to be efficient, it's going to be surgical, and the very phrase that they use that is repeated in this movie
is that General Patreus was not a quote blunt instrument.
And that is what this film is doing.
It's like, oh, intelligence work, it's like surgical
and like sneaky, and then it's like,
but we're doing warfare, but like smart,
all of which was also a lie.
General Patreus went on to be the director of operations
in Afghanistan, we saw how that went and the director of
operations at the CIA who've been unable to prevent Chile from electing the fucking sick-based communist gamer and
over a hundred thousand Iraqi civilians went on to be fucking dead. So that is what this scene is about.
Do not use the MLG drop for that. But yeah, absolutely. And this is something that culminated, of course, well, nothing in history culminates, but it leads to things like the Obama foreign policy where you do
zero dark Thursday shooting, you do drones and so on and so on and so on. So yeah, absolutely.
Also, just talking about Jane Bond's. Bond is like hockey, as reckless as cavalier in this way as he is to end
That's something Daniel Craig forgets to ever do again
And that's what I mean it comes up in this one only and then just never again
Yeah, and it's not even like I'm as like a mother figure by the end of the sex
It's not even like a character growth right
Hmm
It's it's not character growth because it doesn't feel earned Like this movie is like an origin story in the sense that we see Bond scramble and like
make mistakes and fuck up, which I like.
I liked about this.
It's a lot better than the sort of like Brosnan thing where he like wagels and eyebrows
and appears where he needs to be.
But it just doesn't last is the thing.
That's my biggest complaint about this movie is the things that it does right. It does the franchise doesn't last, it's the thing, that's my biggest complaints about this movie, is the things that it does right, the franchise doesn't hold on to.
Well, it's the same as a Golden Knight, right?
Which was, here's Rosin's first, it was their first attempt at a reboot, and it was
the first time that like, Emma appeared on screen as, aim duty god damn d'ange, and she
had aspects of her character that were interesting and immediately dropped.
This seems to be the curse of the Bond films, where they can do one pretty decent one and then just
and it goes to the dead.
But then the prime program of the franchise reasserts itself, which is to sell luxury goods to your dad.
Yes, that's where we have to go next, because Bond, and like this is another departure,
he sets his own next location.
He breaks into M's computer,
and he figures out that the text that was sent
saying like, ellipse and spooky red text
was sent from this one club, a nasal,
because he never has to go to like fucking droid witch
or something.
And so Bond goes to the Bahamas, and this point the movie begins to sound like I like
Friday.
Yeah, exactly.
And the least earned case of the Bond theme where we get at the, yeah, as a Ford Monday
O rolls into shots and it's like, yeah, no, just fucking laser target this
to the audience is dance.
Yeah, James Bond wants your dad to buy things
and it thinks your dad's an idiot.
Yes, yes.
Correct.
You're really pretty right.
If these are the kind of people that are watching this.
I almost introduced this movie as the reason why your dad
got a poker set for Christmas in 2006.
Oh, I just like a game poker. this movie is the reason why your dad got a poker set for Christmas in 2006.
Um, it's like a game poker.
Hmm.
So so bond drives his Ford. My dad actually did get an Austin Martin around about this time.
So I feel that the one franchise may have been effective.
So so bond drives his Ford Mondale, um, to this club.
He looks on his Sony Ericsson phone, phone, which has Sony Ericsson on it.
I said no, I should say. He really, it just, like, he holds up to a screen. It's just like
that tiny, fucking 2006 mobile phone screen and above it in big letters. Sony Ericsson.
I'm like, oh, damn, I should've got a Sony Ericsson.
By Sony Ericsson, they have the cool, like, not even clamshell. It just slips open.
It's nice.
Don't get another phone.
If you get another phone, then James Bond will be able to take it, plug it into a computer
and read all your text because he has no boundaries.
That's true.
That's true.
That's true.
So we get a little bit of self-parody here in a good way, which is Bond parks the car,
immediately gets mistaken for a valley by a guy driving a gold
land Rover who has dressed exactly like gold finger playing golf. He's wearing the exact,
you can go back and check he's wearing the same outfit. He crashes that guy's car both to punish him for-
No, not him, last time I'll do that.
To punish him for treating him like a service worker and also to distract the security.
Get into the security office and use the CCTV to work out who made that text at that time and he
sees it's this guide Demetrius who is driving in 1964 Aston Martin DB5 because
of course he fucking is.
Yeah, this receptionist who gives him every single piece of relevant
information bearing in mind that she is a receptionist
at a kind of fancy beach club.
I feel like she has been responsible
for a lot of people getting bumped off by hitmen.
Absolutely.
She's just like, oh yeah, yeah, he's just down the way.
She points him out to him, tells him that's his car
and it's like, okay, fine. Tell to him tells him that's his car and it's like okay
Fine, it's name under dress
Yeah, I just want to have a chat with that guy you know happening. Oh, his name
Weatness
Have any sort of disability that I should
What if the necessity is here would it make his make his friends kill him if I revealed it?
Because that was a pretty sick move
when I used it in Golden Eye.
Um, so, so,
I'm not fucking hell.
Bond then fucking does the beach scene.
Now, there's a lot to talk about about the beach scene.
He gets out of the water and it's like,
ooh, sex.
This is where they invented man being hot.
I also wrote this movie invented dudes being hot. Yeah, they invented bond
being an object of female desire. Also, he's hairless. He's wax. Yeah, bullshit.
Fuck off. Oh, I a waxed bond appears from the surf like Ursula Andress in Doctor No. Yeah, here's the thing about this.
Smooth like a Huston Sealine.
Yeah, and that's my fucking issue.
Like, because this, this to me marks the point
of which I've never seen a single, like, male action hero
with a hairy chest since here.
Like, think of fucking Connery Bond,
who is just like walking around with that rock and rock.
Yeah.
And it just gets to the point where you like have Chris Hemsworth who is Thor.
He's got his massive great beard, he takes a shirt off and it's like a fucking boy's locker room smooth.
And it's like, what are you fucking doing? What's going on here?
It's a difficult time for you, Devon, I'm sorry.
It's bullshit.
I'm not bringing it back up.
So... I'm sorry. It's bullshit. I'm not bringing it back up. I'm not bringing it back up.
So, this movie came out when I was 13 years old
and it absolutely like fucked my gender up.
My notes and capital letters here say,
my gender must be this, but I hate it.
And here, Alice and I are gonna have to introduce
the concept of a reverse gender dysphoria.
So listeners, if you are back for gender dysphoria.
Believe that you're cis and haven't realized yet. Yeah, if you
haven't realized yet that you're trying to listen to this point,
these are trans and haven't realized yet.
Test your hands of the metal plate. And when you haven't yet
realized that you're trans, there's a temptation like you know
that something is wrong. But you there's a temptation to like go really hard on the gender that you're trans. There's a temptation, like, you know that something is wrong, but there's a temptation to, like, go really hard on the gender
that you've been assigned,
because you, in some way, feel inadequate.
And this feels like I have a drop for this.
I have a drop for this.
A guided bomb to my brain.
Yeah.
I have a drop for this.
When you're a trans-boating, and you don't know it yet.
True, but this one overcompensates
by wearing slightly masculine clothing.
You're more aggressive than a female colleagues.
Ha ha ha ha ha! Exactly!
But it's exactly what happened.
I saved that for this exact purpose, yes.
Before I came out as non-binary, when I thought I was a boy, idiot,
I fucking like I went to the gym a lot and I was trying to get as wide as possible
and it just never felt right. And then I went for a whole lot of gender and I've come back to where
I'm now just openly non-binary, but I'm going to the gym again and getting massive and it feels
fantastic because it's not actually the actions it's about accepting yourself more than anything else.
Absolutely. So Bond does his one move, right, which is locate hot woman in vicinity.
Conveniently, she is riding a horse across the beach in front of him.
This is Salange, who is Demetrius' girlfriend.
Wife, in fact, touched.
Bond immediately seduces
my wife they have my way attached
I'll be honest man yeah so they I mean listen
they they sort of
he tries to meet Rios at Polka he beats him takes his car and then fucks his go. Yes, yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, he wins the Aston Martin at poker,
because of course he does. And then he does the sort of Daniel Craig
to her seduction thing on her where he only says like one or two words.
This gives you just goes like sex now and she's like, yeah, all right.
And at this point, like when they're fucking,
we get, we enter the fedora zone, right?
Because she literally goes,
why do I like bad men?
Why can't good men be like you?
And he's like, because then they would be bad.
I'm not, I'm not buying his reasoning there.
What is interesting about this scene though is that,
well, yeah, I mean either,
what is interesting about this scene though is that
they're still doing full play when she gets the call
from her husband saying that he's going to Miami.
And Bond doesn't have sex with her.
He actually immediately bails.
Okay, we think as the audience that he's gonna stay
and have sex with this beautiful woman,
but actually his mind is on the mission the whole time
and he's like, I'm immediately out of here. He gets blue-bulled.
We do. We are given to understand that like, he has a thing for married women, like
her bitchily, but like whatever, he follows, he follows me. Yeah, he mentions that a good couple of times.
Mm-hmm, yeah.
I remember notes says Bond Cucked.
Well, we see Demetrius talk to Lachifer,
and Lachifer was like, why did you hire me a guy
who was being watched by the British Secret Service?
That question?
Yeah, unreasonable.
And Lachifer goes, why don't trust you? by the British Secret Service. That question? Yeah, unreasonable.
And Lushief goes, why don't trust you?
And to me, Tristan, be in kind of a chat here,
just goes, yeah, I don't give a shit.
I'll find you another guy.
I don't need you to fucking suck me off about it.
Like, fine, I'll find you another guy.
We'll go to Miami.
I'll find the guy who'll do the thing.
So Bond then follows him to another very 2006 thing.
You remember Gunter von Hargins?
Remember Body Worlds? Body Worlds is a fucking insane attraction.
And I'm glad that this is getting to be a internet disaster.
I have literally put in my notes the fact that part of this goes on at a fucking body world
is the most 2006 thing it is possible to be.
And because I-
Anyone have a bit into body world?
I have never been to it. I used to get constantly like, alarmed by the-
I'm not entirely missing that, I didn't know this was real.
Oh yeah, no, no, it's real.
It's real.
And it used to be in- it used to be in Leicester Square and they used to- and they used to have,
and they used- I think it still is open, but they used to have in Lester Square and they used to have, and they used, I think it still is open,
but they used to have these like,
add like, adverts of like,
flayed people on the tube,
and it was just constantly just like,
fricking me out.
Yeah, it's insane.
But I then saw an interview with the guy
who invented body world,
and what I wanted to do is I want you to imagine a guy
who exhibits flayed human bodies.
And whatever you have in your head,
that's what this guy is like.
And he wore this like weird little kind of creepy hat
and like, and a monocle.
And like, like, it was very, there was very.
All right, I'm so sorry. Yeah, if you Google his name,
which is Gunther von Hagen's, the first image
of him that comes up on the sidebar of the normal Google,
is him wearing out little hat of his tongue slightly out.
And every single vibe coming off this man
is all of these people were the last people
who laughed at my little hat.
Yeah, and in 2006, this was like everyone considered this normal.
This was a fine thing to do or a family day out in 2006.
There's a flared horse there and everything, which is the one I bought it as well, actually.
Bond witnesses like a handoff of a bag, but is unable to stop it.
Bond witnesses like a handoff of a bag, but is unable to stop it.
It's like held at knife point by Demetrius
because he fucks up and he's overconfident and rash,
turns it around on Demetrius and like kills him.
And then try, as like follows the guy with the bag,
who he's only able to find
through a desperate, stupid idea
to just call the number that texted him and see who in the crowd picks up.
And I like this. I like this a lot. I like seeing James Bond not fucking know everything.
Yeah, it's great. So he follows this guy to the airport where there's a fucking little
fucking cameo from fucking Richard Branson. Yeah, he doesn't do anything. He's just sick.
He posing in the background.
He's very strange.
He's also done with you the episode art.
So don't worry about trying to find that.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
So Bond then follows him into the airport,
but the guy changes into a cop uniform and enters a secure area
through a key card.
And Bond can't figure this out.
So he calls, and he's like, you should tell Miami International
Apple that there's gonna be a giant bomb threat.
I don't know where he's got the bomb thing.
I've heard that the last guy was a bomb guy.
But he has no object permanence.
So like, so he defeats one bomb guy.
And so every time that time the transitive prophecy, the second guy that I've met here is also a
bomb guy. And he's right. But then he figures out that ellipsis is, and this is this will
come. He did also get a text saying ellipsis there. Yeah, the reason why it's ellipsis, the word,
is because it's, you've used the num, the less is on the keypad and you type out the keypad code like that. And that gets
him through into the airport where we get a sort of long-ass chase sequence
that's still quite well done. Like I tend to have to gloss over the chase
sequences in a Bond movie for the sake of the time. It's cool, it's really good.
Podcast very well.
But the gist of it is, the M figures out
that what this guy is trying to do
is blow up a prototype brain, a prototype plane
from the company that Lyshev has shorted the stocks of.
And you see that that's what the thing is, right?
And I like this moment where it's revealed that it's,
oh, it's just a fucking like stock market scan.
That's what the stakes are here. They're really low.
So genuinely, quite good deconstruction
of how this movie approaches Bond is that it uses
the same kind of like, very some extremely
spy shit happening right now, music,
and like sweeping camera angles,
that movies like You Only Live Twice used
for a fucking secret volcano base
in a V-Told reusable spacecraft.
Oh, totally.
The real, a large passenger airplane in a hangar.
Yes, and also this does,
the only other thing that this features
that I like enough to point out is that the guy that he's following, again, is never named, which I kind of like.
He's just like an anonymous killer.
He does my favorite move in any movie, which is where you try to stealthily kill someone by grabbing their head and making them look very quickly to the left. Yeah.
I have no idea if that's something you can do in real life. I wouldn't care to find out,
but I just like the idea.
This is genuinely the best thing in really, really God
or for rotten film Olympus has fallen
where the former, where the former special agent
is like trying to like is trying to like dispatch
an entire North Korean like paramilitary organization and he does it pretty much, but he does it
by stabbing people in the head, but he also does it by doing them, making them look very
quickly to the left. And it's just, and the first time he does it, it's after a long fight
sequence and I just, and I just like thought, okay, so you've got one of them. Now what,
are you going to do this to every single one of them
because it's taking ages?
And yeah, it doesn't work.
If it did, then like the carer practice
would kill absolutely everyone.
Instead of like 70% pop.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, but the important thing is Bond foils the plot.
He kills the bomb maker by attaching
This guy's really cool though like his he's really competent and yeah, he is I'm so tiny
I'm sorry because the bomb has a tiny bomb
He's gonna put it on a jet fuel tanker and crash that into the hangar and so Bond attaches the tiny bomb to his belt
And then like punches him out of the tanker
So when the book when bond is getting arrested, the bond
makes us like, oh, now I'm going to, I'm going to blow it up.
And I'm going to watch you die.
And bonds like, ha, anybody's himself up instead.
It's fun.
Yeah.
I just wrote at this point, this will still probably
affect Skyfield stock.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think.
Yeah.
So like it still would probably tank it a little bit.
Yeah, a little bit.
But like in any case, the point of this low stakes thing is that like the Shifra has now
essentially robbed Joseph Koney of $100 million.
And if he doesn't find that money somewhere, he's going to be horribly killed.
Right.
Extremely killed.
So, so M.D. Brief's Bond, she hasn't injected with a tracking thing, the like radioactive
blood from fucking Thunderbolt or whatever. And then she drops some knowledge on him, right?
She, she goes, when they analyze a stock market after 9-11, the CIA discovered a massive
shorting of airline stocks. When the stocks hit bottom on 912, somebody made a fortune.
Which is true.
It is true, it's very interesting.
Also, I like Judy don't say 911.
M for 911 truth.
Hi.
Like I mean, it is a genuinely true thing
that someone made a shits out of money on 911
on a bunch of counter-intuitive stock shorts. And it's like, true thing that like someone made a shit town of money on 9.11 or a bunch of like
counter-intuitive stock shorts and it's like
okay, but you're saying in the movie that that that's
Lachef, like Lachef did not or like had advantage.
I'm not gonna tell you how I did that, but it definitely wasn't suspicious.
So Lachef had advanced knowledge of 9.11, which bond of course, as we know,
was unable
to prevent because he was in the Scorpion room in North Korea.
That's right.
Imagining that he was the other season.
Yeah, that's right.
They gave the code name to a blonde guy this time.
He just also happened to be named James Bond, it says.
Yes.
So, at this point, we can then sort of fucking...
Remember when everyone lost their shit about how Daniel Craig was blonde? That was the same.
Oh, they didn't lost until the first scene.
Nice, nice movie.
Quite nice blue eyes.
And God devate love really highlighting that in every scene that he's very looks directly at the camera bunch.
Oh, I forgot. I forgot. Something that the movie treats about as seriously as I do.
Bond gets that woman killed.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, completely and horribly killed and basically shrugged
absolutely murdered yeah and he's like damn that's crazy anyway anyway I don't care
which M calls him out on she's like okay fine but that's what that is what you wanted right
so we now set up the plot of casino roy Royale, an hour into the movie, Casino Royale,
which is... That have been the last one. Yeah. Lachif has to win this money at, in this case,
poker instead of Baccaro, but he's doing this at the Casino Royale, which is in Montenegro now,
but I'm just going to go in, he's going to win this poker game, and he's going to like,
when Lachif has no money, he's going to be forced to defect to the British and tell them everything.
He knows otherwise Joseph Coney is going to cut his balls off.
And at this point, really like how completely not in control the villain of this movie is.
Yeah, he's also scrambling, which is fun.
It's a movie about desperate men, which I like. So at this point, we, we now award a new declaration.
This is a question, a question that I've had ever since I first saw it, which is, um,
why does neither Lachifra nor British intelligence, nor the CIA, who we also see
are playing, why does nobody cheat at this game of poker?
It would seem to be quite easy to kind of equip,
if you're gonna put this by with a fucking like secret gadget car,
you can't teach him how to fucking cheat at poker.
Like Bond just like hissing, no, that's not allowed.
That's the good.
Shenzu and Zabriman.
What the game.
Yeah, to be fair, they do only put him in on this one because I was just like, yeah,
a lad fucking bass said you're the best at poker and you go, son.
And then it's like, alright, alright.
So at this point, I have to award my own little decoration here for which I like to call
the Kaufman star, but for me being horny because, even green, you're destroying the
movie.
I listen, the thing about me, the thing about me is that I'm a fucking bass player. I agree. You're disproving. That's moving. Oh, wow.
Listen, the thing about me, the thing about me
is that I'm a fucking lesbian.
And as such, I can't help myself.
Bond is on the way to Montenegro
when Eva Green vespillined from the treasury
introduces herself and her name.
Mm. I just like it, too. the treasury introduces herself and she's like, you are a disgrace, I feel nothing. She isn't
blonde and she isn't American either, I feel she's a great actress and she gives a great performance,
but I feel my no- but literally say I feel nothing. So do I. Well, I'm not going to pursue this line of inquiry.
What I am going to say is that they have this conversation
where they sort of mutually like,
insult each other in very searching ways.
At the end of it, Bond says, she asks him how he's feeling.
I mean, how the lamb dish he was eating
was and he says skewed one sympathizers, which I like a lot. That was fun line. Yeah, so he reads
her and again, the vibe is very much James Bond meets a transgender woman. True, but this one
overcompensates by wearing slightly masculine clothing. Be more aggressive female colleagues.
Whereas the masculine clothing, by the aggressive, female colleagues. Whereas she...
The most of the masculine clothing, by the way,
that she wears throughout this entire movie,
is the most beautiful dresses I've ever fucking seen.
She's not even wearing pants, she's wearing trousers.
Like what?
It's a ho-ho-ho.
I mean, I don't...
I don't cut low enough, what are you a man?
I don't actually know quite what he means by her alleged masculine tailoring here.
I can only assume that Bond thinks that, like, as long as a dress is, like, not in girl colours, it's a man's dress.
This one's black, what's going on?
Yeah, this is a man's colour and therefore that is a man's dress.
Yeah, he walks out wearing that himself.
He's kind of into the toilet wearing that.
So she gets into his insecurities,
which are about like being an outsider and a killer
and like, you know, going to fancy schools
by someone else's charity and, you know,
feeling like, you know, bullied for this.
But the movie has to sell your dad something
if your dad is rich enough.
So what she says is she talks about like former SAS types with easy smiles and expensive watches
Rolex. Omega.
Beautiful. Omega. So that's my interest in the movie.
I'm going to watch after this film and he still has that. Of course he's fucking dead.
I think it's very funny to watch.
I think we have a quick watch check.
Listen, I am wearing a watch that imitates a Rolex Submariner.
So I'm not, but the thing is, right, like what's interesting is this,
this is something that shows the bond franchise is is, right, like what's interesting is this, this is something that shows the bond
franchise is age, right? Because Sean Connery had a Rolex, when a Rolex cost the equivalent of 500 quid, right?
That it was a nice watch, it was a luxury good, but it was like a tool watch. It was something that you
could wear to like go bang off corals, diving in the Bahamas or whatever. Whereas now your Rolex or your Omiga costs
you know like an order of magnitude more than that and if you have one you never take it out of
the case except to like look at it lovingly right. It's gone from like a you know a luxury
item that has some practical use to something that no one will ever be able to afford unless, I guess, your Abby's brother. And you're so like, it's this, you know, status mark more than anything else.
My brother, James Bond. Your brother, James Bond. But Boughton Omega from this. And it's interesting
because like, this became more and more of a thing. Daniel Craig is a watch guy.
That was like, that was his big perk.
That was like pass of how they got him to do no time to die.
Was Omega let him design his own no time to die edition Omega.
And it's a very nice watch.
It just is tainted by the fact that it has pretty sick and extremely bond watch.
It is nice. That has the point of white
It's so cool
In my head, it's so funny
In my head, it's a kind of Thomas the Tank Engine face
On the onion, on the onion
And that's what great design does the bond watch
It's just shaped like Daniel Craig's head
Yeah Oh, it's just shaped like Daniel Craig's hair. Yeah.
It's got that shit where the hands do like little spirals.
Listen, the best watch that Daniel Craig has worn in the movie is still the like 60s Omega
Omega reveal in Nives Out.
But anyway, so Bond and Vestful, Omega, Bond Vestful and Bond Omega, go to
Montenegro. And Bond is handed their legends, their cover story, right? Where he has a fake name
and they're madly in love. And I think he actually does like all movie thing where he takes the piss by saying oh, yeah
Your fake name is a Stephanie broad chest. Yeah, I just like that. Yeah, sure
But when they get to the the check in desk because James Bond is inherently a reckless like
Cavalier guy. He's like, yeah, it's James Bond. This is my friend from the treasury
Off of a hunch that Lashief will already
know who he is, and therefore he's just like fucking with his head a bit.
And I mean, I kind of like it actually, to be honest.
Plus it's an excuse for him to do the the Bond James Bond thing. He doesn't even do that.
He doesn't do it.
Until the very end of the movie with that.
He doesn't do it yet.
Yeah.
There's no time.
Well, in any case, they meet their contact
who is a French guy called Renée Mathis.
And we see that he is this sort of like underhand spy.
So like the way in which he shows this is
the chief of his bought the chief of police. So Mathis has inadvertently like manipulated his deputy to get him arrested
for corruption. And photo shops and a shirt. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we have an entertaining and entertaining
line here. He's currently. Yeah, Ali Caron Bay currently... He's currently... He's currently...
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Yeah, this is this is also going to be a problem for me and this is difficult because I'm,
you know, running the podcast. There's that. So there's the scene where they like both
David and I will proceed like months. We feel nothing. Although she does have really good chemistry.
A half month half hitman. Well, I do if I were a very horny for Matt's
Michelson as anyone with a fucking pulse is,
but I can control this, I think.
So they have this kind of like mutual,
like, low-thing sort of sparring kind of like
seduction thing, which I like a lot.
Also, there's a, so there's the scene where they both
get dressed, right?
And she's wearing the Hollywood edition
of like what a woman with no makeup on looks like. Yeah, perfect face. So there's the scene where they both get dressed, right? And she's wearing the Hollywood edition of, like,
what a woman with no makeup on looks like.
And-
Perfect face.
flawless.
Absolutely love it.
Wish I could get mine to look at anything like it.
And-
But she gets him a tuxedo, like a new one.
And when he tries it on and he does the like James Bond looks in the mirror,
she laughs at him.
And that I really like that.
I like the idea of it.
It's so hot.
It's so hot.
It's cute.
This is where I do that thing, but if you go on like any Breaking Bad clip on YouTube,
a comment's a raw just full of people going, this is the moment he truly became Heisenberg.
Well, I'm right at the point.
This is me.
I've wrote down in my notes, this is the moment he finally became James Bondberg. Well, ironically at this point, this is me. I've rode down to my nose.
This is the moment he finally became James Bond's.
Yes, yeah, she molded him into James Bond's.
She moiled him up.
She does, but she also like, you know,
the Tuxedo is like this ridiculous costume.
And you get the sense that they're, you know,
interested in each other for something more than that,
which I like a lot.
Anyway, now we have to play an hour and a half of poker.
So, I listen. I glossed over this a lot.
This is thrilling to me.
It's...
I like this. I don't know.
Do you think they play so much poker?
Who's there?
Yeah, I like it too. Jeffrey Wright is there.
We later find... Jeffrey Wright is Felix Leiter. He's black now and his legs have grown back, so like it too. Jeffrey Wright is there. We later find Jeffrey Wright is Felix Leiter. He's
black now and his legs have grown back, so that's good. Yeah, he's had enough time to grow his legs back
and like, he's just, well, there's no reason Felix Leiter can't be a code name or alternatively,
he's just a different guy who happens to have the same name. So Bond loses badly. No, no, it's the same
guy. Same guy, obviously. Bond loses badly, No, it's the same guy. Same guy, obviously.
Bond loses badly, but enough to figure out that LeChef has a tell,
and he conveys this information to Vespa and to Mathis,
that when he is like bluffing, he starts weeping blood.
A thing that you would think would be more of a handicap.
He's a heavy tell, honestly, I hope that's right.
Like, isn't a tell meant to be like a little like, wait,
just some unconscious and nice stuff.
He's telling us the thing he does with the chips.
Yeah, but like that's what he thinks is.
He flips his chips around his fingers when he's buffing.
It's not, he cries blood when he's sad.
But you can, you can, you can, you can execute the double bluff here,
which is doing something, which is doing something
quite like arresting when you've actually got a really good hand. Well, that's exactly what he
does now. No, I know, I understand that because he's like, because he's fake as far as I can
understand because Eva Green is wearing a very purple dress. And like, and she has no business
looking good in a purple dress. That dress is a fucking coast-ass bridesmaid's dress. And like, she has very low. She has, she has no business looking good in a purple dress.
That dress is a fucking coast-ass bridesmaid dress. And she was phenomenal in it. And I, I,
it shouldn't be allowed. I'm just thinking, I'm just thinking about her hair.
I wish, I wish, I wish my hair looked anything like anyway. So orders a Gordon's Jaina a $10 million buy-in poker table.
He does, he does, he does.
He orders it with his new one.
Would you come up anymore?
Not anymore, you can't make this fucking thing.
He should have made a joke.
I don't actually.
A fucking Martini, and then he goes, wait a minute,
and then he explains how to make it to the bar staff because he's inventing a new drink in the moment
Here he goes, yeah, three points of fucking Gordon's one of vodka, no brand name on the vodka
That's fine, one of Keena Lille, shaken, thin peel of lemon and everyone at hotel goes, that sounds great
I'd like one too
And later on, he's...
Matt McElton
Yeah, Matt McElton who goes, do you guys mind if we fucking play some poke enough?
Yeah, I owe a hundred million dollars to Joseph Coney. Can we fucking fleet guys?
I'd love to set Mac McElson. He goes, God, what's fucking really?
It's like, can you mind if we do not if we skip the fucking mixology masterclass because
That tank array I would maybe accept but bond like a
swapping across the table. Yeah, three makers of Bombay sapphire mixology masterclass with max
middle. Max mixed up. Max Middleston. Max Middleston.
So yeah, one's got to get to his book club. So that's why he's got a bit have a bit of a cordon's in before he heads off. So, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so,, Sherry, no, why not shoot me in the head? Have a cheeky Vinto over ice in like a coop glass, thanks.
Um, so, Lachief goes back to his room with, with his girlfriend, and I'm, I'm
mentioning his girlfriend, Valenka, largely for Abby's purposes, because like, you know,
it equal time for Horniness on this podcast.
Spellian, but she is also quite attractive.
Thank you. Yes, it is now my turn to become horny because this woman is blonde and American.
But surprise, surprise, Joseph Coney is in the hotel room with a machete.
And he is very poor.
Yeah, I hate to see that.
He is put out by the fact that he doesn't have his money.
So much so that he threatens to cut Mads Michelson's girlfriend's hand off with a machete and then
observes to his amusement that yeah he doesn't give a shit he's just like yeah okay and he
tells his girlfriend yeah he should probably find a new boyfriend he really doesn't give a fuck
this point right they leave like Joseph Coney and his bodyguard, they leave.
But they see Bond's earpiece thus making Bond a giant fucking hypocrite for like owning
Carcer about his earpiece game. Um, and they kick him into a stairwell and we have a stairwell
fight with a machete. Every, every single fire exit that either green tries is locked and the
fucking fire safety standards of the casino royale, atrocious.
Don't lock a fire. It's got a problem. A podcast. I don't know.
What kind of laws they've got down in Montenegro. It's got a push bar. It's got a push bar on it. Why is it locked?
How do you even lock it?
How did it happen?
But yeah, no, so there's a fight.
And it's quite good.
It's a quite good fight.
They're very competent at making these movies by this point.
And the thing is like Bond kills Joseph Koney horribly.
Horrably.
Is that Bond kills Joseph?
Well, maybe not specifically.
Yeah, no, I think it is even Joseph Koney. Yeah, it's Joseph Koney. Bond kills Joseph. Well, maybe not specifically him. Yeah, no, I think in this even Joe's kind of
Kill's Joseph Koney and he requires Eva's help a little bit to do it. Yeah, she has to look at him so right fucking
Strangling him to death right
um and as such she is quite reasonably
Traumatized and I wrote this is the moment he truly became James. Yeah, he did.
This is the, I'm saying this about every scene.
This is the most time you've become the James Bond.
Not James Bond.
Sorry, this is the moment when he turns into a story
for the girls group chat.
I don't care.
I leave you on the edge.
I went on a date with this guy and he strangled
an African warlord to death in front of me.
What should I do?
And then he started sucking my fingers to comfort me.
I also wrote that down.
The fingers that we're going to talk about the fingers suck because...
I can't get to it, I'll get to it.
This man is now known to all of Eva Green's friends as the finger suck guy.
That's all I've got.
She's in her phone as like the finger emoji and the time emoji.
Exactly.
So at this point Bond has killed the only reason for the she for to still be playing, right?
But his girlfriend Vespa is sad and we know she's sad because she's doing a normal girl thing
Sissing in the shower completely closed while it's cold,
being sad.
Yeah.
This happens a lot.
Can't get in the shower all the time.
Absolutely.
You can't tell that you're crying for showers on.
It doesn't help.
You're crying all of your votes.
Can't indeed confirm this is what girls do.
This is feminine coded behavior.
But I'm jealous.
Girls be, girls be sitting in the shower.
But like, you know, do I sit in the shower clothes and cry?
Like an HB.
So Bond, Bond and like quite a touching scene, I think he just sits in there with her, right?
Like, and like, yeah, it's, it's quite genuinely touching scene and then he does 9-11
it by doing something that is non-sia than anything Roger Moore ever did.
She, she, she goes, I've got blood on my, and it's not coming off, which you think is about Joseph
Coney, and partly is, but it's also like,
also part of her habit of every scene saying some,
I have a deep secret James shit to him
that he does not pick up on.
But yeah, she goes, I've got blood on my hands,
and then he sucks, two of her fingers.
Yes, it's gone by Shirley.
Yeah.
Oh, is that blood?
Yeah.
It's like you got it.
It's bad.
It's not. Oh, wait, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Yeah, lady my best just needed a guy to do this
So so we have a Yeah, we know me. You like this is for the juke chat. Yeah, we now have to like play another hour and a half of poker
Which bond does but because he has misidentified Lichief's town
And math is just explain the rules of poker to the audience. It is very boring. Oh, fucking mathis explaining poker.
Every second shot is mathis going to Eva Green.
You know, their poker is when you have to match the cards.
Now, that third card is called the river.
And it's like, fuck off, dude, shut up.
If you have fifth card, it's called the roof.
I know, but I don't care.
I know, I know.
It's so, yeah.
So it's like, it's this weird thing,
where like every previous movie,
no one making fucking like Doc to know
thought anyone watching you had to play Bacara,
they were just confident enough in their ability
at filmmaking and like the actors at acting
to like give you the sense of what was going on
from the way people reacted to it.
Like you watch a hand of Bacchara happen
and the guy goes fucking like,
Kwitalabonk and you look to Jane Bond
to see, oh shit, is that good or not?
I think I can explain this
because we have noticed so far that this entire film
is sponsored by various luxury goods, right?
But what people don't really know,
it's sort of hidden fact about this this film is that promotional consideration was furnished by a series
of instructional poker DVDs, and this has been quite an unmist from the kind of the conversation
about product placement, and so that's why that's in there. Yeah, so so Bond, you want to watch a good
movie about fucking playing cards. You can watch the card counter of Oscar Isaac,
which is the legitimately good thing.
I actually did learn how to play poker as a result of this film
and did get quite good at it.
Yeah.
So Bond goes all in,
but because Leschiff renows that he had, like,
has misidentified his tell from someone
and a shadowy, math-shaped figure appears.
He thinks that Leschiff's tell is tell is like a massive cartoon sweat drop appearing and him tugging at
his collar and going oh boy oh oh boy oh no oh boy I'm bluffing here I'm having a
good laugh. I'm not bluffing.
The sheath from double reverse back flip gender dysphoria bluffs him and
Bond loses all of his money.
And it's $5 million to buy in,
and because Vespero's pissed at him,
she won't give him anything.
Yeah, over the sucking incident.
Yeah, over the, she's like,
I'm not gonna give you $5 million
because you sucked two of my fingers in,
just in the shower,
like not even in a sex context.
He's like, I'll do, I'll do the other three.
If I don't make it, give me the five bell.
And then over, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up.
So Bond's immediate next move is, I'm gonna grab that.
And maybe the finger.
I'm going to grab a steak knife from a table and attempt to stab
the sheifer because I'm a very dumb person.
Yeah, the thing I like about this James Bond is that he's dumb as shit.
Absolutely, more on.
I think it's good characterization.
But he is held back by Felix Leicester who goes...
Yeah, who goes.
I'm Felix Leicester from the CIA.
I have my arms and legs back and also I'm not gay anymore.
But I have a lack.
Again, yeah.
Don't like making super much this time.
Again, fuck you're right, you was in Never-Sit Never-Again.
That's right.
And he goes, I am from the CIA.
He was there.
I'll give you the $5 million if you let the CIA take
in Leshoever instead of MI6.
And Bond goes, just goes, yeah, sure fine.
Comes back to the table immediately poisoned.
Just instantly poisoned.
Plastic Bond move.
The linker, the hot American girlfriend,
just slipped something into his drink.
And he is, he just, like, yeah, just,
more on. Perfect perfect more on.
I mean, really good use of shaky cam and this in this being poison sequence.
That's really nice to show.
Oh, yeah, like the like the poison scene still has like a creeping horror for me.
I really like it.
But she poisoned him with digitalist and he like stumbles towards
the birth room to like make himself throw up and then to his car where he gets on the
phone with MI6 who are like, you have to do some stuff from the movie The Rock. You have
to inject yourself in the heart with the fucking adrenaline or the neck with the adrenaline
or whatever and then use this defibrillator that we have in the car. This is spawns like only real gadget. Am I kind of, yeah, that's nice. It's nice. It's set up briefly earlier when he opens the wrong,
like, shelf in his car and you're like, I see a thing, then he closes and very quickly,
in fact, I could gun instead. I'm like, oh, yes. But yes, he's being poisoned by a fox glove.
It's all less interesting. At this point point, like he collapses before he can hit the
button because he hasn't wired it properly and Eva Green comes, Vespa comes and saves his life by
hitting the button. And she goes, you're not going to go back in there, but knowing that it will like
fuck up Leshyfer's mind the most, He just like throws himself immediately back into the game.
Now he cleans himself up, he sits back down normal,
like in the shoes like, oh, it's like, sorry,
had to step out for a minute, that last hand nearly killed me.
And I went, yeah, that's not.
No, no.
It's not a moment to me that he truly got Ken general.
Mm-hmm, absolutely.
So at this point, Bond wins, right? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no fucking royal flush or some shit. Yeah, fuck off. And yeah, full house, fucking six is fuck off.
Jam of sixes.
So, so, so, so Vesper and Bond then talked to each other over dinner afterwards. And this is the
most James Bond. I have a terrible secret, but I also, I, I won't tell you, ask conversation
in her repertoire. And she has you, ask conversation in her repertoire.
And she has a lot of those in her repertoire.
She's very fortunate that Bond is throughout this film,
not just with her, is entirely incurious.
Like, he never asked questions about anything.
Which does a set of hammas of the fucking characterization.
My apologies. Even from earlier on where he's like, I was a wreck of paces of the fucking characterization.
My apologies. Even from earlier on where he's like,
yeah, I found out your name because I wanted to,
and it's like, but that's not the same guy anymore.
Like he's just, he's hanging out with this woman
who's just like, I've got blood on my hands
and it'll never come off.
And he's like, damn, that's crazy.
Let me suck that in this though.
Yeah, like you've been distracted
by something that wasn't even a distraction.
That's the thing, here's the thing.
I'm gonna spot, I'm just kidding.
It's really nice though, but uh...
Here's the thing, I'm gonna spoil the crake.
The crake movies for you.
And the thing about the crake movies
is that Vespa Lind is an agent of spectre.
She's like blackmailed into doing it, right?
Uh.
And every fucking time she says something,
it's like very, very obvious in hindsight.
And probably with four sites too,
if you weren't 13 when this movie came out,
that what she's saying is she's about to go,
James, I am an agent of specter and I need your help
because I'm being blackmailed.
I'm not sure if she can't due to the fact
that they haven't got the licensing
to say the name specter.
So she just can't do it.
Due to a geist that's been placed on her, which is, it's literally in the form of like,
you know, a ribbon tied around her neck that's gonna fucking take her head off.
Full it.
She unfills it because she has a necklace that is an Algerian love knot.
Sure. Uh-huh.
And she received the love not from somebody bond deduces.
And therefore, I'm gonna respect him and like not,
you know, put the moves on you too hard.
And she goes, oh, I mean, Mathis needs me.
Yeah, it's quite sweet.
Immediately gets kidnapped.
Like, she just gets bundled into a car.
Bond gives chase like in the original casino royale.
But unlike in the original casino royale, Daniel Craig showed up to film this scene.
So he drives the car, but they have left Vespir like tied up in the middle of the road.
So he has to swerve to avoid her and knocks himself unconscious.
There's a lot of fucking variables in this plan.
It was a bad plan.
It's not a great plan.
It's, so I mean, listen, you know what we have to do in this movie next.
You knew it was coming just gonna
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Go back in my chair, go on.
So yeah, no, he takes, he manages to say Bond and Vespir alive.
It takes them off to be tortured separately.
And at this point, I just, I simply want to write
down here that, um, Lashufra's girlfriend, absolute ride or die. She's like, oh, you're, you're
gonna, you're gonna torture this girl in the other room. Fuck, am I in for this? I'm just gonna
go in there and like, help, I guess. I mean, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, Queen. Absolutely, absolutely. So at this point, we get into the cock and ball torture thing.
But first, so the sheifer has bond, strip naked.
He looks like a side of beef, as I'm tied to a chair
with a seat cut out, and he fucking goes,
Wow, you've taken good care of your buddy.
Perfect line. Perfect. No notes.
Yeah, wonderful, wonderful.
To me that just has the fucking ring of psychomant is reading off of a PS1 memory card.
You know?
Oh.
Wow, you've taken...
Wow, I can't help but doing it in like Vulcan voice.
Wow, you say you're J. Get up your buddy. You took Kill Walk and talking of fucking... You've taken wow I can't help but doing it in like Vulcan voice
You took kill walkers talking a fucking
Movie with all that's right your body
Getting the shit with
Yeah, and they should have done it. They were cowards. So like you also, by the way, and there's something another line that makes the rope indispensable.
Oh, there's also a line in the scene where, um, Bond and fucking one, yeah, Reena that where he's talking about the fight, he's still drinking the fucking Gordon's shit that he made up.
And he literally, he's like,
I think, Gordon I'm Mr. Vespa.
Because when you've had one,
you never want to go back to anything else.
And that's the origin of why he's only ever drinking what, come on.
She also laughs at him for it.
Yeah, and she should.
Yeah, so there's one other bit right right right before She for whips the shit out of Daniel Craig's cock and balls. He goes I never understood all these leathery torches
Now bear in mind better than mine for future Craig movies, right because that idea of like a more stripped down realistic
Torture scene does not fucking hang around
That idea of like a more stripped down realistic torture scene does not fucking hang around. So yeah, he whips the shed out of Bond's cock and balls to get him to tell him.
So sorry to jump.
It's a weird thing to say in the context of a universe in which he has not seen the James Bond films,
because he's like, I never understood these elaborate tortures.
Dude, what elaborate tortures?
What are you talking about?
Have you seen any other films?
What's going on? I never understood those elaborate torches from wacky races. I never understood
that time when you got, when you were the same guy, strapped to a table of a laser going towards
your dick very slowly. So what he wants is the account number and password to transfer the money to pay off, not Joseph Coney now, but someone else.
And Bond won't give it to him.
Bond like taunts him throughout being tortured.
That's hot.
He makes jokes.
It's really hot.
It's so hot.
It's so hot.
He's fake.
Lyshefe, quite rightly points out
that he could kill both of them. It doesn't matter. Bond is still doing bits. I'm so hot! I'm so hot! I'm so hot! I'm so hot! I'm so hot!
I'm so hot!
I'm so hot!
I'm so hot!
I'm so hot!
I'm so hot!
I'm so hot!
I'm so hot!
I'm so hot!
I'm so hot!
I'm so hot!
I'm so hot!
I'm so hot!
I'm so hot!
I'm so hot!
I'm so hot!
I'm so hot!
I'm so hot!
I'm so hot!
I'm so hot!
I'm so hot! I'm so hot! I'm so hot! I'm so hot! I'm so hot! Mr. White, we don't know that's his name yet, but that's his name. He's there with a gun and like,
Yeah, Lushyfra goes, wait, I can get you the money.
And Bola Lime Alert, he goes,
My organization Spectre from the movie Spectre.
Svector, I call it Svector yet though.
Spectre, it money isn't as important to our organization as knowing who to trust and fucking domes
him off right there and then.
Perfect.
Is this when we find out that Alice doesn't know what domes him off means?
No, I'm saying it wrong and perfect.
It's very, it's completely funny.
It's only for the whole time.
We've been using wildly different definitions.
No, no's it. Yeah, we've been using wildly different definitions. No, no, no, it's like, if I said he domed him, right?
That would say, that would imply that he,
as he does, shoots him in the head.
But I like to say domed him off
because it implies that he like sucks his penis,
like to conglations.
I'm a bit more interested.
May I make two short interjections?
Yes.
That's sort of the purpose of the idea.
Yeah, do you?
One of them, thank you very much, Dev.
I'm sorry.
That's what I was like, a cool boy again.
Oh, thank you.
Thank you very much.
I'm a number of fashers, deep.
Fashers?
Yeah.
Do you call that something?
You've got a special... special little name for that drink there?
Called the Phoe Beach.
No.
Yeah, I guess so here are my two interjections.
One of them is a bit of a spoiler and that is bearing in mind, bearing in mind that
he has up until this point been like actively and publicly gawping at this woman.
When they're trying to get the password out of him and it turns out that he's used her name.
Why would you not think well should we try his girlfriend's name? I know it's stupid.
It's not going to be that because this guy's MI6, he's a professional
he knows what he's doing, he's not some fucking amateur, but should we just try his girlfriend's name?
Yeah, that's the shot to this gig, right?
That's like my second try.
My second try is Vespir, my first try is because it has to be six numbers or more.
My first try is 007, 007.
It's just...
My first try is ladies love cool James.
That's my first interjection.
And the second interjection is, and I hadn't really noticed this until about halfway through this film and
It's that Daniel Craig has two bond voices and one of them is
Yes, I went to Eden and I was an outsider and but you know
I learned to fit it and now I can now I can shoot and now I can shoot and fuck and And the other voice that he does,
which is when he's not concentrating,
and he's actually acting, is Starma.
That was a little obvious.
It was.
Imagine a voice-trained Starma.
Like, if that, you know,
okay, remember back in the 80s,
they had to get some advertising agency in
to teach Margaret Thatcher to speak
in a way that didn't frighten people.
So she developed this very like mellow soothing train.
Oh, I remember Margaret Thatcher's mellow soothing trained voice.
And it's like, it's still faintly horrifying, but she got taught how to do it.
So if you imagine that they decided to bring in someone to do something similar with
Starmer, what they would end up with is very similar to the Daniel Craig Bond voice.
A really, Mr. Bond.
Yeah.
Ah, so yeah, fuck.
Yeah.
Okay.
Got it.
Imagine having two voices.
That's to ask that's pre-key.
That's weird.
You shouldn't do that.
I'm gripping the fucking table.
Jesus, okay.
It was not up right.
I'm moving on so swiftly.
So I'm not gonna do it.
So bond, bond wakes up.
I'm not gonna do it.
I'm not gonna do it.
Okay, okay.
I don't believe you.
It's actually making me think it's more likely.
Right. But bond wakes up in hospital
genuinely
The fastest and cleanest death of Borgon has ever gotten so far
Yeah, it's cuz he doesn't get weird shit. Yeah, he doesn't get fucking maggot drawer
He doesn't fall into a rock crusher. He just dies some tries
He just dies, don't dies, which I like.
He just gets, just gets, don't doff. Um, so yeah, um, Bond wakes up in hospital where he immediately gets
Mathis arrested as a double agent.
And then fucking brain-
What's up, and I wrote-
Genius.
Prognosis.
Someone's beaten the absolute shit out of your dick and-
All of them.
Yeah, your dick and balls look really fucked up.
Didn't check the rest of you.
Yeah, I'm absolutely fine, normal even.
Dic and balls, I got them in perfectly concave.
What do you got that far?
We got you a replacement set of dick and balls.
We got you a replacement set, and then he's like,
where's Eva Green and then I can,
who do you think you donated the dick and balls?
No, no, no, no. So at this point, he goes,
ah, that's that devil agent sorted forever.
I sold my dick and balls by you.
I couldn't feel perfect blonde hair.
Wait, who's this walking into the scene?
And she's not wearing her weird love knot anymore.
It's Eva Green.
And every fucking line that she has is, not wearing her weird love knot anymore. It's either green.
And every fucking line that she has is, hmm, yeah, you know, the thing about me, right,
is as a joke, right?
Wouldn't it be funny?
Would you be mad at me?
Like, hyper-thetically.
Exactly.
... would be upset.
Yeah, yeah.
She's like, everything she says is like tentatively trying to broach the whole working
of a specter thing, and she's like not doing it.
She genuinely does talk like someone
who wants to talk about a specter,
but is legally unable to due to a different guy having
the creepy copy of her.
Well, it's all Sony, so she could call it Spider-Man.
That's true, yeah.
I'm an agent of Spider-Man. Spider-Man? It's not a Spider-Man. I'm an agent it Spider-Man. That's true. Yeah, I'm in the age of Spider-Man.
Spider-Man?
Spider-Man.
I mean, age of Spider-Man.
What's the, I noticed down here something
about the location scouting, which is that
more Bond's location scouting was like
find country sought by most iconic landmarks
as this one seems to be just like
quite genuinely lovely little vistas.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a lot better now.
Strange to say.
He's done my sixth rage in the bathroom.
Oh, this one, this isn't, oh God, what are you talking about?
This is like Lugano.
I don't know how the fuck that is.
Switzerland and Italy.
It's, I mean, it is strange to like...
That's too many countries.
Oh, it's a very, very beautiful place.
I've actually, I've been there. George Clooney has too many countries. Oh, it's a very, very beautiful place. I've actually been there.
George Clooney has a house there.
Yeah, you're a very famous.
You're a very famous.
It's so interesting.
It is weird to send MI6 agents to a hospital in Switzerland.
In any case.
Yeah, exactly.
I don't know what the most iconic landmarks of Switzerland
are, because I don't respect it.
Bons you.
It's a break.
It's a two o'clock.
Bond breaks a
network of recognizing like country network security rule because he just fucking tells
Eva Green, oh, hey, your name is the password.
And she said she fucking types in the destination account and sends it and is like, well, that's
gone back to London.
Also, I'm going to look really sad for mysterious reasons.
The thing about the password is ladies love cool James panties.
The next comment mark.
The thing is, and the guy that I want to give the fucking good night to, we haven't mentioned
James.
Mr. Mendy, who has the fucking money, he's just called hair men gal.
He is having a great time from start to finish.
He shows up in a scene and he's like,
oh, fucking 150 million on the playboys.
He rolls up there and he's like,
won't take up much your time.
He doesn't know that this is all to finance terrorism.
He thinks it's all about food.
He's having a nice time.
He's a casino, it's fun.
Yeah, yeah, Bond, like, talks a bit.
He's like, I didn't bring any chocolates did you?
And he laughs like it unironically,
the funniest thing he's ever heard in his life.
I love him.
He's so pure of heart.
Perfect.
Swiss banker, having a nice little
time to Swiss when he's like,
we then get a couple of sequences
where Bond and Vespa kind of talk past each other.
Unfortunately, a Swiss banker has never done anything wrong ever.
So, absolutely.
So that's very fortunate.
Yeah, so yeah, he tells her he's going to resign and in a line that has aged
bitterly considering the Craig movies, he goes,
movies. He goes, I'm gonna be holding that button down the whole length of the no time to die episodes. Do what I do, long enough, and it just becomes
soulless. But so he's getting out and he's taking Vespa with him and they're gonna be home, essentially, is the vibe.
They go to Venice because it's close.
They fuck a lot because they're madly in love.
But the whole time, she's still like, I have a secret.
And it makes me very sad.
And yeah, so she then gets...
She's literally even in the scene.
Right, okay.
She's like, I'm just going to go to the bank now.
I've got to go, James, see you later, incidentally.
I have taken off the ribbon that is around my neck.
And he like highlights it in that scene as she's leaving.
It's like, God, I hope she survived, I say.
And it instantly decides to sort of wear literally the one of the most eye-catching dresses
I've ever seen. So just in case someone wanted to follow her through the narrow twisty streets
of Venice, they could produce so really quite easily. And then she
kind of does this sort of like, I'd actually really like to talk to you about my secret. And he
pretty much goes like, oh God, what now? Women have a right. Games on, having a Heineken
simplest. So like, because Bond is the least curious person ever.
She's literally in regards to the necklace.
So I'm gonna, uh, no, random.
In regards to it having taken off the necklace,
she goes, I think it's time, sometimes you can forget the past.
And the entire thematic through lion of the cringons
is no you fucking calm.
Which I like.
I like that as a cohesive thing for it,
but yeah, she's not subtle, she's so unsusceled,
she has to leave her phone behind,
and then she has to fucking text it,
the number of the guy who the fucking creepy guy,
Mr. White.
Just in case he forgets to check her phone.
She's had a spent enough time with James
that she knows he has to spell this one out for him.
She really has.
She leaves this later as possible.
Trail of not just breadcrumbs, but fucking loaf.
Yeah, he's very, he's very, he's very incurious,
but he's also really nosy.
He loves it.
So she knows that if she leaves her phone,
he will look at it, but he doesn't know why.
Just don't even know what she's done.
What she's done.
Baghets lined up.
Two Baghets, and she's caught one in a half
and he keeps it.
He's gonna see the girls group chat
when he was referred to as the thinger, so.
Yeah, yeah.
So eventually Bond becomes curious enough to figure out.
She's gonna get back over there.
Why am I in your phone as like finger and tongue
emerges?
That's about to do that, jokes.
She bond finally fucking figures out, oh wait, she transferred the money not to MI6,
but yeah, and the only thing is out because he gets a fucking call from Emma.
I was like, yeah, I got your message about resigning.
We'll have a chat about that in a minute.
Glad from a treasury.
Yeah. In the press to point out where the dollars are.
Uh-huh.
Which he goes mental. Wait a minute.
Wait, what? Huh? Hold on. Huh?
Huh? Can I get the...
The piece must be noise?
Yeah, I want to say it once I, like, scroll for a million miles.
It's okay.
Wait.
Right.
Huh? Uh, so he figures out that, like, she's withdraw withdrawing it this very second from the branch in Venice.
So he chases after her, she's like walking really slowly to try and let him keep up.
It's embarrassing.
It's so, my God.
She goes into like a building like a palazzo to like hand over the money in a briefcase
to a guy with a creepy like one blacked out glasses lens
Sort of on some sure for Dora as well. I think yeah, he works he works for specter
um and then
Bond because having a facial disfigurement makes you nothing sinister about it sinister music bond immediately goes
Oh the bitch is betrayed me.
Uh, and-
He's a- a mother fucker.
There's no name.
A mother fucker on her.
He's just Christ.
She's a kid.
Yeah, divorce call Bond. I mean, that is the cragious.
Absolutely.
Absolutely. So he's betrayed by her and he's angry.
He like shoots his way through. She's being held hostage, but he assumes that she's not.
And then she gets, okay, right?
She gets into about what's happening to this building.
She gets into an old-timey cage-style elevator
and then Bond looks through a door,
sees everyone waiting to ambush him
and decides, you know what I'll do since we're in Venice. Is there a, I have a cheeky shot at those pontoons and I'll just
sink the whole fucking building.
Yeah. This is the entire building is sinking into the building.
I'm sorry, I'm going to have say something controversial here. This is why you never trust
a woman who can do maths. Now you're right. You're absolutely right.
Counting is on lady like and this and this demonstrate.
Yeah, that's true.
Absolutely.
And like, I don't know, the sequences with Vest, but before this,
they were interesting because he could count.
Counting, what do you try to keep track of?
How many of the menus like with Paula?
More of that.
Trying to count the curves in your little Algerian love, not there, is it?
So, so trying to like compare this to something like no time to die, it's interesting that
Craig could still act bonders happy in a convincing way.
A thing that he loses the ability to do in every subsequent movie.
So, so like now he he's overwhelmed with betrayal.
He shoots his way through to Vespa.
And then Vespa, I believe she's actually locked
the thing, not just with a key,
but also with her Algerian love not.
Just to make it even more clear that like,
oh hey, I'm being blackmailed and whatever.
Which would be good symbolism if Craig wasn't just like, what does that mean?
Oh, well, that's completely mysterious.
Don't get it.
But we see him try, we see him try to save her and like dive under the water to rescue
her.
We also see that she is like actively refusing herself and trying to fucking kill herself by this point.
Uh, why?
Great question.
Until she changes her mind and then it becomes fucking harrowing because she does lock herself in and then like goes to drown herself.
But like then she changes her mind and is trying to like reach him and get out.
And that it's trying to like like embrace him for the final time.
And then she takes like deep breath in order to
round her stuff.
No, she very specifically does it on purpose.
Yes, but she definitely does it on purpose.
Just a quick, just a quick, just a quick sidebar.
I fucking love how imprecise films always are about how
long the average person can hold their breath underwater.
I think that's, I think that's a lovely look. Roughly about half an hour.
I'm gonna give or take. But yeah, she definitely deliberately kills herself. And I,
I know that I don't understand most film because of a Greenland and Sundress that occurs
when she's in Lake Laguna and it kind of wiped all of the cognizant function
out of my brain.
But, I don't really get why.
I feel very sad for you.
I feel very sad for you.
I feel very sad for fucking the world, not enough, eh?
Honestly, it's a very beautiful thing.
It's a very beautiful thing to It's a very beautiful thing.
I will.
I will.
So I, even though I'm not very bright and did not understand it, I'm just like, but what
is she decides to get herself in the only thing I can come up with is that she assumes
that Craig, I'm just going to call him Craig now, Craig Bond.
Craig Bond.
Yeah, Craig Bond. Craig Bond.
Yeah, Craig Bond.
He drives Voxelastra, his name's Craig Bond.
I assume that she thinks that if he's trying to rescue her
so that he can hand her over to MI6
to presumably be horribly tortured.
I thought that it was like she's trying to save him
from being pursued by a specter
I like because she he like tries to rescue her incidentally no one comes to help him at all
He does like CPR for two minutes and then stops because his arms get tired and just like accepts that she's like dead, right?
But like also then like kisses her which is weird. He kind of like he
KISSES her dead neck by my count my count, the third time that Bond has like kissed a dead woman. So sex
a thing is a bit just a full time sake. Fuck.
Jinks.
Crape thing, crape finger suck. So like, crape finger. That's our one name. So crape finger
suck goes back on his, on his Sony bio laptop. Just in case you'd forgotten to buy one of That's a horrible name. So, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, The thing about the Algerian love not is she was in love with a French Algerian guy and
the kid of specter kidnapped her, kidnapped him and like we're threatening to like kill him and
torture him and share if she didn't do what they wanted. Also, you shouldn't resign. Also,
she knew she was going to her death so I don't feel bad about it. Also, you've become emotionally
detached by this, haven't you Bond? And Bond goes, I'm going to talk about this line
specifically, why should I need any more time, the bitch is dead? Which, I'm not going to
go, James, this is the moment you finally become James Bond. Yes, and Craig Fingersert goes,
and and and and and and Craig Fingersert goes and Craig Fingersert Craig Fischman joke. I'm sorry. That's Craig Craig Craig the thing the thing the thing about Brosnan right is it took us it took us four
movies to get to Calper and Bikini T-Shirt idea. The Craig show has has like a revealed itself to us. And that's him. Yes, it has.
Yes, it has.
Let's say this on the recording,
you piece of shit.
Yeah.
Here we have the Frank fucking T-shirt
is him blowing up a divorce court.
That's it.
It's just him sucking a woman's fingers.
It's him sucking the shirt that could be worn.
We need to do this.
It's him sucking the fingers of a statue of justice
on top of an exploding family court.
No, it's not because that's not a drawable concept.
Looking forward to the artist having this
He I'm in charge of this car. Sorry. He he he follows the final fucking
It's him with a Sony Vio laptop,
and then a Sony Ericsson phone and a bottle of gorse.
We didn't highlight the shot of him completely shirtless
sat on a Sony Vio laptop.
Yeah, and it's also my favorite shirt of all time.
For some reason, he's holding his own toes
like up on the seat while he's doing it.
He's a joint fixator.
He's bisexual, that's it.
No.
That's it, normal.
That's why he likes married.
He follows the final fucking sourdough loaf
that his dead girlfriend has left for him
by texting him the number of the creepy guy
who works for Spectre.
Mr. White handed him fucking everything, hey?
Just a little bit faster.
That's what I understood M's final, like just in case
you had also been like memory wiped
by the green sundress like me.
And you needed the last, maybe an hour and a half
explained to you by someone very kind.
you needed the last maybe an hour and a half explained to you by someone very kind.
What I understood and last line to be to mean is that she knew she was going to her death and she did it specifically to save you. Not, don't feel bad about it. Like, since you're acting like she
betrayed you but she clearly did love you because she knew that she was going to die and she did it anyway because she traded her own life to spare yours. So she didn't
love you after all. And he doesn't, he doesn't seem thoroughly convinced by that, but that's
because he's hugely incurious. And so he stops listening after he doesn't hear his own
name. He doesn't, he doesn't understand. He just becomes a misogynist.
Yeah. And then says something like, I can't believe we missed this,
and I wrote this is a lot like the last time you missed
an entirely obvious time.
Yeah, Miranda Gramps in the world is not enough.
Doctor Miranda ispuss, absolutely.
Like, I mean, okay.
Oh no, sorry, my apologies.
It's a lot like the last two times you
entirely missed an obvious time, like, because that
includes the last from the world is not enough.
Oh, yeah, could have been kidnapped, could have been brainwashed, could have been turned.
So yeah, no, I don't know.
I think the bitch thing is like misunderstood in terms of like, oh, this movie's misogynist.
I was like, it is.
But the way in which it's misogynist isn't just that Bond is saying this and you're meant
to go, that's right, she is a bitch.
It's your meant to go, ah, becoming like this and talking about women that Bond is saying this and you're meant to go, that's right, she is a bitch. It's your meant to go,
ah, becoming like this and talking about women that way
is something that is like,
he's meant to be vulnerable because,
yeah, because they've been wronged, right?
But it's like, well, no, you're just very stupid.
Again, I actually never saw it like that.
I thought, I always thought that he was...
But he is also shown to be wrong
within the context of the film.
Yeah, I think that's quite nice.
But that's what I'm saying.
I think that he says it as a kind of way of being like,
no, no, no, no, I know I resigned by email,
which I feel like you shouldn't be able to do
if you're an MI6, but whatever.
I know I like sent you a weird email
to your MI6 desktop laptop or whatever, but actually, no, I I like, I know I like sent you like a weird email to your like MI6 desktop laptop or whatever
But actually know I'm like back and I'm not emotionally affected by any of this
In fact, look this is how I'm this is how unaffected I am
I can call the woman who aren't the only woman I've ever loved
I can just say and now the bitch is dead and I'm completely fine with saying it
And I think I don't think he's supposed to think that she is a bitch too. I think he is saying yeah exactly
I think it's showing him building his little his little Daniel Craig armor and it's so no one can ever
Talk to his cock and balls again. Hmm because he's got arm around them
So him and his armored cock and balls find mr. White's
Villa on the shores of Lake Koma and then because mr. White like
villa on the shores of Lake Como, and then because Mr. White like specifically spared his life because Vespa like begged him to and traded her own life for his or whatever. And Bond repays this by introducing himself to the guy by shoosing him in the fucking legs.
Yeah.
And he says,
Hey, your daughter is remarkably attractive and could be the second great love of my life.
That's what he says. I think what he says is the name on James.
That was the moment that he truly became.
Did he truly became James?
Fingersuck.
Craig.
Craig Fingersuck.
And that was the moment that he truly became. Craig Fingersuck Craig Craig Fingersuck and that was the moment he truly became Craig Fingersuck
Because he's a sparring system.
We have a science based system on this podcast we call the scum system for SMARM cultural
and sensitivity, unprovoked violence and misogyny. So, with that in mind, on a scale of zero to seven,
where would we rate this for smarm?
Hello?
Hello, it's me.
It's like, no, no.
I mean, he's not the smarm bond.
Two or three?
He has a few little lines here and there,
but that he, hmm.
Yeah, I'd go two even.
I think this is the least smarmy bond film for a while like since like maybe even living daylight or something like that
Yeah, it doesn't strike me as especially
Smaami
Mm-hmm. I'll go to okay. Yeah
All right cultural
insensitivity
Remember that Africa exists
Yeah, I do too much wrong with that.
I mean, fucking like, I'm more on Coney.
That's not really far off a person that's real.
Like, somewhat together.
Yeah, the Mongoose craving is a little bit weird.
Mongoose is interesting.
Coney bringing a machete with him too,
because you know, Royale is a little weird.
The app, the, the, the app, the, the distinct the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the app, the,
the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the app, the, the, the, the,
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some suspect stuff underlying that. Absolutely. I'm going to be thinking about the phrase
the elegant European cock and ball torture for a while. I would go with the three, sure.
I would go with the three, sure. Okay.
Now, this one's gonna be high.
Unprovoked to the violencia, unprovoked violence.
I don't think it is.
He shoots a guy in the length to say hello.
I don't think it is because of one of the violence
that Craig inflicts in this is provoked.
He shoots on the leg.
Well, he was taking in prisoner.
That's okay, wait for that.
But he shoots an unarmed guy in the back of the head.
He blows up a gas tank to exit a situation.
He starts the movie by shooting two people for no other reason.
That's bad.
Because he's been told to...
By his fucking organization.
That's not on the vote.
That's totally unprovoked.
It's not unprovoked.
First of all, he's in an actual fight with the first guy who's the first kill
He's ever done in his fucking mind. He's not making out easy. It's not unprovoked. That was a fight to the death
They're both in the second one was it arguably unprovoked. But you're both wrong about this. The one where he shoots
And I think it's a three or a four head, blows up a foreign country's embassy.
I was carrying a few points, though.
The really this is all water,
because I think it should be like a four.
Yeah. Four?
Four? I was going to say six.
Out of seven?
Yes. Yes.
I think we need to...
I think we need to discuss what we mean by provoked.
What was up a by provoked.
Because maybe the quality and the tenor of the violence
is provoked, but he's doing most of it
under specific orders.
Split the difference and say five.
I'm happy with five.
I don't think it's especially,
I think it's like quite thought out.
It's not reactive violence, especially.
Well, that's what that's what I mean.
I mean, okay, fine.
So now, I mean, misogyny.
Well, I respect women, so I'll just take a back seat for this one.
But just wait, so is that a four or a five?
I don't think it's a five point five for misogyny. I think this is I think this is I think this is one of the more misogynist
film films of the Bond of because they sort of try and give Vespa a little bit of motivation and
interiority and as a result somehow make it worse. I think that it's like
it's an even worse like worse characterization than if they'd just gone with
with with well it's a tie, which is what
they, which is the regular bond thing.
Right, I would go a little bit lower than that.
Purely because I think that it's explicit in the text that the reason why Bond is like,
why he does this, Mizzogini, is because he's a moron idiot.
Yeah, but it's still, that but still, that's like an explanation.
He's shown to be wrong.
But is he shown in the text of the film
to be wrong especially?
I think so, I think so.
Compared to laser ones where it's like,
and for that matter earlier ones where he's like wrong
but cool or where they do the like Mizzogini's dinosaur line
and golden eye and then by the end of that scene have M go I was cool really. I think here where it ends
on that sort of like note of like ambiguity and failure and shit like that. I also think what
happens to all Demetri's wife is like on and that he's miserable about it. It's like unusually nasty.
Well, that's, that's all, that okay.
Now you're talking me round again because like,
this, this sort of did usher in another era
of Misogyny and Film where like,
the hero can be like, you know,
a brutal about women or like witness the brutality
of others towards women,
but so long as he's sad about it,
that's the real problem.
It's not that it's happening, it's that it's a wafer like him to it's a bit.
Yeah, it's a bit...
And I don't want to sound like I write a film blog in 2015, however the development of
male characters built on dead female bodies.
It's pretty all the way through.
That's the fridge. And it's kind of what happens, like very, very clearly at the end of this film
because he is developed in character because his one true love dies and again dies quite horribly.
So I'm sticking with my five rating of Miss Ojani.
You've you've talked me around. Yeah, I'll go five easily.
That's fair. You kind of talking me around. See, this is a nice, uh,
all right. Thank you. A good little example of what a well argued point can do as opposed to what I did,
which was yeah.
The post to what I did, which is call my dear friend, Alice,
a fucking moral family. Simple reason that she was being one
Well, this is that quality makes the podcasts
It is I love you great deal. It's the thing the thing is it's a good film and I love you too
Yeah, no, it's a decent film. It has a lot to say about masculinity which is that it's good shit and you're never happy
Yeah, and therefore the the lesson that you should get from this if you don't know your trends and you're watching this when you're 13 years old is
Man, this thing's gonna suck and that's why you should do it try getting big
Fucking sigma
Yeah, consider that
I would also like to say and and this is not something that I'm prepared to elaborate on any
further, it's for me personally very nice to see finally some Jewish bond representation.
Because Daniel Craig is the only Jewish bond, and even though he doesn't talk about it publicly,
but I'm asking him.
Interesting.
How are you?
Very well. Yeah, but if you feel like. Interesting. How are you? Very well.
Yeah, but if you feel like there's what you're going to want to do, you want to split the difference
and start hitting a gym and taking estrogen.
Yeah, get large, but you know,
how we really move on.
We also want to move on.
Phoebe Woody Allen's contribution to the James Bunch.
Oh my god.
Oh my god.
I don't know.
I'm going to fucking do that shit. Okay, take it off the board, sir.
Take it off the board. We've got to take him off the board, sir. We also award a little good
night cross, which we've talked about to Mr. Mando. And Mando, absolutely. And just from
Sample. And just from the sample. The best and Rose that for like the the best
evil guy who really went the extra mile
on this movie and I want to give it to
Valenka the the girlfriend of Lachifura
for just fully like being on board
with torturing the
little bit like yeah I
I respect it.
I'll yeah.
Absolutely.
Yeah, I agree.
Okay.
Yep.
No, I give it from me.
All right. Perfect.
Well, that's, that's been a long episode for a movie
that has a lot to talk about in it.
Phoebe, if the people want more Phoebe,
where can they find you?
If you want more Phoebe, you can find me on my two podcasts.
You can find me on 10,000 posts with Hisainkaswani,
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Excellent. Well, thank you so much for coming on.
Thank you so much for having me.
That's great. on. Thank you so much for having me. It's very fun. All right, well, we will be back with the next mainline bond, James Bond will return in
Quantum of fucking Solace.
Yeah, where they were like, all right, we're not getting the fucking rights for Spectre.
Invention, you criminal organization.
Enjoy, enjoy, enjoy the brief moment of us having watched a nice movie because it's
not gonna last.
This has been Kill James Bond.
We will see you later, fuck off.
That's because you know what I can do with my little finger.