Upstream - S2E6: Air Force One

Episode Date: August 16, 2022

We're just not quite ready to let Harrison Ford go yet, so we move seamlessly from Clear and Present Danger to Air Force One, a roughly contemporaneous movie that could fit very neatly into the Jack Ryan universe, as canonically Jack does become President of the United States, in part for his actions during Clear and Present Danger. I hate knowing so much about these fuckin films. A barely-concealed reaction to the Yugoslavian War, and in particular the Bosnian Genocide, this movie shows the president making a speech in which he promises the US will involve itself at the first sign of humanitarian crisis, rather than waiting for international consensus. This prompts a group of communist revanchists (Led by Gary Oldman) to invade and take control of Air Force One, the president's private plane. Find bonus episodes at our reasonably-priced patreon! https://www.patreon.com/killjamesbond   *WEB DESIGN ALERT*  Tom Allen is a friend of the show (and the designer behind our website). If you need web design help, reach out to him here:  https://www.tomallen.media/   Find us at https://killjamesbond.com and https://twitter.com/killjamesbond

Morning listeners, obviously at this point you're aware of the sort of the way that we like to do things We like to have a running theme for certain things and for the last two That's three even Jack Ryan movies. We have done a little bit of a fun cold open in the axon or the voice So for red October I did one in Russian. That wasn't very very good for So for red October, I did one in Russian that wasn't very, very good. For Patriot games, I'm already forgetting the names of his goddamn things. From Patriot games, obviously Abby did her phenomenal Irish accent and then immediately following that with the present danger she did

American love I pause that think of the right word to describe how good that impression was specifically. So now, as we come up to Air Force One, these hands together are ladies and gentlemen for Kazakhstan Abbey. Go right ahead. All right, fresh the intro button. Incredible work there Abby. It's a shame. It's a shame we probably can't leave that in due to it sort of gratuitously offensive nature. Yeah, yeah. It's a shame. My recording software fucked up. So this is you'll never get to see the perfect Kazakhstan accent. It was for normal. It was great. Yeah.

It really, I would say it changed my opinions about a lot of things, but mostly about about the country of Kazakhstan. It sounded very weirdly Serbian, which is a theme of this entire movie. A lot of work into traditional Kazakhstan dress as well. Sadly for is lost. These things, the lost episodes, the ephemera of K.O. James Bond. Yeah, we should start just like making reference to a lost episode. Just start making the juice references to the content.

Yeah, for sure. We actually record an infinite number of episodes for name of the rotors and then we store them in this big town. For the moon pussy episode. Yeah, the moon pussy. It's another episode of Kale James Bond. I am Alice Gordor Kelly. I am joined as always by my friends, Devon and Abby.

All. How is it going? We watched, we have been progressing through the Jack Ryan movies. And we got to one that isn't nominally a Jack Ryan movie, but so is spiritually that we kind of have. I think this works really well if you read this as a sequel to Clear and Present Danger as well. I think it gives us a good arc on Jack Ryan as a character. So I will be calling, I called him Jack Ryan in the notes. Oh, I'm calling him Jack Ryan. They literally don't say his name. They say his name like one time

and it's like a side character. It. Jim says it. It's like Jim. The entire rest of the time they call him Mr. President, which to me is Jack Ryan. That's your name. Once you become president, your name is Mr. President. It's a kind of like being transgender in a lot of ways. In many ways. So it's so. Yeah, definitely. In many ways. I shall tell you my camera. Yes. So, right. So, cold open, we violate the national sovereignty of Kazakhstan. Yeah, to begin with, we start with some Tom Clancy shit, 100%, which is we see a special forces team parachute in, land on the roof of the presidential palace in Kazakhstan. I do kind of want to make Nate watch this and get him to rate these parachute landings because

there's one where the guy lands on the parachute, lands on both feet, falls forward, and they cuss away from that really quickly. Yeah, not so good. Yeah. It looks like it really hurt. But so they do the Tom Clancy shit. They're all dressed in black. They all have MP5s. Not so good. Yeah, I'd it looks like it really hurt But so they do the Tom Clancy shit. They're all dressed in black They all have MP5's they're like hip firing them at a full run They run in and they capture the president of Kazakhstan or the dictator of Kazakhstan Unless you can probably you can probably answer this question all the guards all the general Radax guards They're all speaking Russian. Is that accurate?

To Kazakhstan in 1997? I think potentially within the security services of it, it could well be a holdover of the Soviet Union. Plus, as we find out later, this general, this general Radix, is engaged on an explicitly revanchist project, a Russian ultra nationalist project, to restore the Soviet Union. Yeah, it is deeply fine

that the final holdout of the Soviet Union in this movie is Kazakhstan. One that you have to really think to remember that it was part of the USSR. We're gonna recapture the United States from Alaska essentially. Yeah. That is our plan, yes.

But yes. But so they capture a general radic. They put them in the helicopter and they leave. Having thus sort of zero dark 30th to the situation. Also all the music for this is like, dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun. It's a genre that I would describe as sort of presidential music.

It is, yeah. It's so amazing. If you've ever seen the West Wing or indeed any of the previous Tom Clancy movies that we've talked about, this isn't one bit kind of should be. It will be familiar to you that kind of like soaring sort of like patriotic music.

It would be really funny if this film turned out to not be made by Americans. I think that would push it into part, like if it had been made by the people of Kazakhstan, for instance. I have a reveal for you. This was not made by an American. It was written by an American, it wasn't directed by on. It was directed by Wolfgang Peterson or Wolfgang Kyrgyzm.

Oh, Jordan's brother. No, the guy who made Duss Bucks. So this is a German guy is vision of what American patriots have. Yeah, because it almost seems like a parody of America. It's very close to one. But so we see Mr. President, Mr. President Jack Ryan, at a diplomatic dinner with the president of the Russian Federation in Moscow, where they are sort of fating him for this. As we now find out, Russian-American joint operation, which is in itself a very Tom Clancy thing to do.

Like, if all of our tactical guys could get together and hash stuff out, they would be like world peace. And he's supposed to say, oh, thank you very much for like honoring me. But instead, he gets up and he says, really fascist speech. Yeah. Well, he says it's, it's, it, this is a 1997 movie, right? So the American public are fresh off the Balkan Wars. And the, there are still US troops in, uh, in Kosovo at the time that this movie is made. And so what he does is he gets up and he goes off script. He says, I've been to the refugee camps because people are fleeing the the radic regime in Kazakhstan. And what that has taught me is to speak terrible Russian.

He gets up there and he says, Oh, Mary, she is, apparently, not as resolution. That's an issue, not as resolution. But what he means by this is there is a spirited, aggressive speech and favor of liberal interventionists. Yeah, muscular liberalism. He even calls them okay. He says, America, we want the, America, we want the positive piece, which is the presence of justice, not the negative piece, which is the absence of suspension. And he's like, America needs to get tough, like when things are morally wrong, we need

to not wait around, we need to just kind of go and get in there and get the job done. It's muscular liberalism. It's like David Cameron's shit. Yes. And it's explicitly a sort of veiled criticism of the Balkan Wars, of waiting until, like there was this sort of like international consensus before intervening to the very last stage and the genocide, which yeah, we can sort of debate the merits of that as it relates to current foreign

policy and Iraq and Afghanistan, like shadows hanging over this film. But the point is that he is, he has been struck by his conscience. It's a morally driven speech that's like America has a moral responsibility to intervene to prevent atrocities, even though they don't threaten American national security. We also see that he's gone overhead to Congress in announcing his foreign policy decision. This is specifically like we are going beyond democracy to use violence to do what we believe to be morally right. And at this point, I thought the film was setting us up for something brilliant. It's always a mistake for the films we watch.

Yeah, we see his chief of staff who's in the audience who is very clearly unnerved that he is going off script and just inventing policy on the fly. But this is a thing, Americans, at least in fiction, they love and off the cuff lead. They really do, right? They love a president who is willing to get up

and just go off script. And Harrison Ford does this in a sort of very, very Harrison Ford way, I suppose. There's a real sort of sense of like moral outrage. That's what Kirstaama has to sack him. Yep. That's right. So he gets his standing ovation and he goes back to Air Force One to return to the United States. And then the whole convoy on the way back, everyone is yelling at him. The deep state is fully intervening. Yeah.

It's like, no, you can't be doing this shit. You can't just involve America and stuff around the world. The president's not the real president, you know that. But there's something I wrote down here, which is that when he goes back to Air Force 1, they've got like three limos and they've got like you know, secret service dudes getting out of it and like the Air Force 1's really big and there's people who are like gentlemen, welcome to Air Force 1.

And it's like a thing I've written down as, this is what I love about the Americans, is they really know how to put on a fucking show. Like, really know how to put it. I mean, we're a country that has a royal family and we save all of our kind of pomp and circumstance points for the royals. And it's fucking bullshit because they're just shit. But American pageantry, when they do this kind of thing, it's like, oh, it's hard not to love them. Yeah, it's true. Like you think about this, if anything that underplaying, you look at a presidential mosaic of the time or even now, twice the

size of this, it's like, twice the size of this. Absolutely. He gets like two demos and it's like, no, there's a lot of shit going on there. The sort of the imperial presidency is something that we'll come back to in this because it really interests me the way it's portrayed. But so Americans keep making movies about presidential security, about the Secret Service, about assassination, attempts, terrorist attempts against the president. And it's kind of, it makes sense because there is all of this theater involved. There's all of this sort of very tightly choreographed security

that it makes something in your brain go, okay, how do you invent a way past that in fish? Yeah, it's a challenge. And we see a man doing that very thing because we meet our villain of the film. We meet our guy, our dude. Gary Oldman. Gary fucking Oldman, baby.

Gary Oldman and four of the most suspicious looking guys you've ever seen in your life, rock up to the Air Force One security checkpoint and go, hello, do I really have to be searched at this point? I've already been searched. And they're undercover. There's a Russian TV news critic who are there to interview

the president and film the inside of Air Force One. And we see from Gary Oldman's like, sort of subdued nervousness that they are using fake IDs, that they are like trying to use false IDs, false fingerprints and everything to get into Air Force One. But he's also so charming. So like the head, the head publicist or whatever

who works the president like shows him around Air Force One and he's like really, really nice. He's like making little jokes to her and I have to love it. This is Melanie, right? Right? Yeah, this is. Okay, she's the deputy press secretary. Yeah, just keep an eye on what's gonna happen

to her later in the film. Just hold Melanie in the film. Just hold me. Yeah, and yeah. Meanwhile, like the president, when he gets to the fucking thing, he's got Banner, he's got fucking jokes. Everyone's like, he's asking his boys about the game and they're like, oh, it was a real nail bite

and he like gently baps him on the head with a roll of documents and goes, don't brief me. I want to see it. And it's like, this is 100% how both, I think Obama and Bush saw themselves. I think every interaction where they talk to people, that's how they viewed themselves. I think this movie has been far more influential

along with the West Wing in terms of creating the idea of how a president should act. Yeah, a president is your mate also your dad. Yes, he is America's dad. That's right. And he's also someone else's dad. He's also someone else's dad. Yeah, all crew members went for the same set

where at the same time though. And that's fucking fucking professional. So we meet the first lady to which, hello. A dark hair, strong features. Nice to see an older woman with like, it's really nice to see a woman with graying hair, actually.

And we see the president's daughter, Alice, which I hope none of you got drops because people yell her name a lot. I know, I didn't know. Also she has the clearest like, this is what I want in life thing. She's like, dad, I want to grow up. And then the Harrison Ford goes, she's such a hurry to grow up. And I'm like, okay, I want to grow up and then the horizontal gazes nation because she's it's such a hurry to grow up And I'm like, okay, I get it She literally walks in her fucking lion is just like why didn't you take me to the refugee camp daddy?

And he's like I don't why why why why would I take you to the refugee camp? She's the other thing we see is that the president does everything personally. He never has a moment's rest There is always someone interrupting him with some crisis. We see that like Saddam Hussein is moving on the divisions to the border and he's got to deal with this shit. There's a great line in here. Mr. President, the Russian news is with us. I tell you, you give him a sound about life in the White House.

There is no life in the White House. He's like, he's very harried. He's very harassing. I think the have been, I think the have been presidents like that. I mean, you look at how much, again, for instance, Obama aged in four years of the presidency, where all of his hair turned white. And he was working 20 hours a day, or admittedly on kill lists and stuff, but still. He's putting a lot of time and effort in a vote kill list. That why we're giving the cronstein resets to president Barack Obama when he

ordered that a strike on a man alawake that took a toll on him more of one on alawake to be honest but yeah that's true that's true that's true yeah but on the other hand we do see now that some of the stuff is not mandatory. Donald working five hours a day if you're lucky, Trump. So, um, most of that spent in front of the TV. That, that's genuinely been so funny. It was like every other president, they spend six months in office and they look like they're 80 years old. Trump comes out after four years, looks the same.

Yeah, he's like, I want to do another cup. Still again. I'm ready to go. He's playing golf most of the time. Um, he's like, I want to do another cup. Still again. I'm ready to go. He's playing golf most of the time. Yeah, exactly. There's also a very interesting phrase on, we see the news reporting on Jack Ryan's speech. And it's being reported as that the United States will not tolerate terrorist governments, which is a fucking terrifying phrase. It's like, okay, who's going to decide who the fuck that is? And like, yeah, very, very odd. Sure. State sponsors of terrorism things are...

Just remember this idea, listeners, that we've set up is just like, well, we need to do violence that's non-democratic if it's morally right. This is something that the movie is going to kind of engage with, but not really. It's sort of like, it doesn't tell you about the paradox of tolerance, but it does suggest at least the bare bones of the idea that you have to act anti-democratically against anti-democrats. Yeah. And we see somebody doing that very thing because Gary Oldman does it right now. Yeah, that's right.

So there is one other thing I want to pull out about that news broadcast by the way, which is it talks about Radik and it talks about what his government was meant to be doing and we get the first bit of ideology because it describes his his full of government as neo-communist revolution, which is interesting. I understand. I mean, I just want to live a rice of pose. Yeah, but so the the perennial fear that the Soviet Union was going to come back even to this day is is very funny. It is that like Simpson's gag of like the Russian guy pressing button. Yeah. Yeah. It's strange to use it as an allegory for Serbia, which this definitely is.

100%. Although Milosevic had been a communist and was willing to claim to be when it suited him, but the defining thing there was nationalism. And well, anyway. Also, we see a guy handcuffed to a briefcase, which has got to be one of my favorite genres to see a guy handcuffed to.

Yeah, it's really funny. That's the guy with the nuclear football. So we see a guy handcuffed to a briefcase, which has got to be one of my favorite genres to see a guy handcuffed to. Yeah. It's really funny. That's the guy with the nuclear football, the sort of briefcase holding all of the nuclear codes. He's just hanging out. Yeah, I would say fucking hate to be handcuffed to a nuclear football. I would hate that shit so much. Anything goes down, they're going straight for me.

Yeah, 100%. And you're like a military officer too. You're in uniform and you've got to be handcuffed to this thing. It's probably heavy. I'll be lying in my briefcase. And you can't even use it to beat people up with, actually, this is sick. No, I don't go that. It's got the nuclear codes.

It's not even like codes. You know, I'd actually be using it like a meteor hammer. I'd be tempted to just, I'm just going to go to the toilet and then I would just look at the codes. I wouldn't read the... I just want to know what's in it, I think I sort of out pretty quickly. The point of adding this nuclear football in here as well is there's not really any sort of like nuclear threat in this movie, which I'll talk about later. It is.

But what there is is it's a piece of paraphernalia, right? It's something about the the the the the residue of the president, the sort of like the course of the president is that oh hey, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, shot and nothing happens. It just like the next scene in like the control room elsewhere. Someone goes, got the new codes and it's a new guy, taped to a new freak. Which I like. That's something that I like, but I'll get, I'll get to. So we see, we see an Air Force officer who's going to brief the president about Iraq. It's Willie Mh. Macy. Yeah, I always love to see Willie Mh. Mh. Mh. Mh. Adding a big totally to the KJV guys you'd love to see in a movie. Always playing like friendly dad offering you another burger at the grill. That's all that's five. You're so fun.

So, so they're F-O's one takes off. It's heading back to the United States, heading to Miami. And we see a secret service agent named Gibbs. Ah, Gibbs. Ah, Gibbs. Gibbs. Gibbs. Gibbs. You'll be. So one of one of the more familiar ways to get through in fiction, this kind of like impenetrable presidential security is you have a secret service agent who has turned to his mom. This is Tom Clancy shit again, isn't it? Because it's like, well, you can't beat them by playing at fair. So you have to have a traitor. Yeah. Yeah. Of course. The thing about Gibbs, the thing about Garib's is that he, they don't actually explain what turned in,

they don't do any of that shit ever. He literally is just, he's like, I like that. Even later on after, he's the like final remaining antagonist, he doesn't say any like speech as to what he's doing. He's just, it's just a traitor. It's just ontologically a trader. It just happens sometimes. Yeah. He kills the Secret Service agents who are between the press seats and the president.

The actor is actually really bad with a gun. He like squint, he closes his eyes really bad. But it's fine. And then he throws a little smoke grenade, allowing Gary Oldman and friends to run forward. He opens the armory, the secret service armory for the big container of guns that's just in front of the press seats. Yes, yeah. And they arm themselves with admittedly very nice MP5s and soft armor. And at this point, this is the point where my suspension of disbelief gets fucked. And it's something I have to talk about in relation to the secret service and presidential security and stuff. And it's like, what happens is they shoot their way forwards.

The president is being briefed. And then all of the people around him hear this gunfire break out and they just kind of sit there like, what the fuck? Like you you know, it's like, you know, it's crazy. Yeah, but must be the wind. So this gunfire breaks out with the Secret Service who are immediately outgunned because I guess there's only one armory. Yeah, it seems like a design for. Yeah, and it's just, it's a really slow response, which is strange to me.

Like they let Harrison Ford sit there, and then eventually they grab him. And, you know, he has like two dipshits with pistols who both get killed. I think this is something that like, I think it's very difficult to conceive of how well protected the US president is. I think it's also something that would be very difficult to film. Yeah. You wouldn't be able to see it. Yeah. No, no, that's the thing.

Like I think about on 9-11 when they, when Flight-2, like was discovered to have been on firejacked by you, Dev. But, but Dick Cheney was in his office in the White House. The Secret Service came and said, okay, you have to go to the bunker now. He didn't want to leave and six agents picked him up and carried him. Wow. Did they have the authority to do that?

Yeah, absolutely. And he was still, I'm kind of for long enough to order, not only for you to be shot down which is, isn't it? Sorry, I'm doing this, I know of it. No, no that it's not what it's got. But it is funny. No, it is. It is. It's only on 9-11.

I'm thinking about that quite often. So what I'm saying is that I don't like this movie because it disrespects the Thin Blue Line, our brave law enforcement. I don't think that's the secret service. Yeah, that's the stance we're going to take this episode. Yeah, this is bullshit. we're gonna take this episode This is bullshit none of these guys know what this is like Tom Pancy disavowed it despite not right to get nothing Disavowing movies around yeah, it does this to everyone of his movies

You listen to like the fucking directors commentary and it's just the fourth time I've tried to say it I'm gonna fucking say it. We see this I've tried to say it, I've got a fucking say it. We see that some fighters are scrambled from an Air Force base in Germany. And this is your reminder listeners that the United States just has military bases all over Europe. And you can't do anything about that. You can't change that. If the Germans didn't want to have a US military base in Germany, they shouldn't have lost the fucking war.

Yeah, that was F-hole. Yeah. So we also see the first lady and the first daughter, I guess, who are just kind of like around, they don't have their own secret service details or anything, they just kind of get flung into the crossfire. Briefcase guy gets killed. The president is ushered into the cargo deck where he has an escape point. Is this real?

Okay, that's real. Yeah, that's a question about Air Force 1. This is a vex question, right? Because the Air Force insists, Air Force 1 does not have an escape pod or parachutes, which means it has both. Yeah. Why would it not have parachutes?

I don't, because I think it's something that like was designed to be sort of as safe as possible. Like it is the lifeboat, and you don't need a lifeboat from the lifeboat kind of thing. But on the other hand, the secret service has gotten too good, right? Like absent stuff like doing cocaine and like having sex with Colombian sex workers

in hotel rooms, I had conferences and stuff. In terms of stopping presidents from getting killed, they've gotten too good at it. And so now I have to figure that a decent proportion of what Secret Service agents do is just watch movies and go, oh, we should be doing that. So I bet that someone watched Air Force One in the Secret Service and was like, you know what,

why don't we have an escape pod in Air Force One? Yeah, the details of the actual like armament of Air Force One are kept secret, obviously. But, that's gotta happen, man. Air Force One is too fucking big these days. I miss when it was like, Roosevelt's sacred cow, which is this is fucking

two-proven-ginship. That's the shit we need. You know what I'm doing after this is reading, rereading the Wikipedia page for a list of air transports for head of state to just go down them and rate them and be like, uh, we have one trash. We should get one. Well, I mean, I was a queen. I was one.

The queen has a tiny, tiny one. Blair tried to get one and they've been pushing it off for years and years, largely because of the headline, Blair Force One, when you try to cut the ice cream. Yeah, I know. They killed me. That instantly that I've been like, I scrap it, scrap the whole thing, done, but...

I think Boris wanted one as well. We're like one of the only, like, sort of, like, major, I think, well, maybe the only G8 country that doesn't have one. Just because we got the first time we tried. Yeah, because we got the only way the news papers. And now we're like waiting for it to die down before we try and get on. So they're just too private jet?

Yeah, they just charter an airliner. Lame, no. It's very disappointing. Yeah, it's like, it doesn't have an escape pod. What the fuck? Yeah, it's no point. To be fair, if I was in the secret service, you, as you say, Alex, they've gotten too good.

So I might be like deliberately fucking up. It's just like, oh, I left my gun. Oh, no, just anyone want to try and assassinate the president. Please, I'm so bored. You're just creating little, like, hitman assassination opportunities. Mr. President, can you just walk through this puddle with like a sparking electric flag?

Stannex of this thrasher? Yeah, that's what I'm going back. In 1910, I'm just reading a fucking Wikipedia. In 1910, I'm feeling a little ruse of that. No, no, this is the first US president to fly in an aircraft. It was one of these fucking like Orville right ass fucking like bi-planes.

It was a little bit of what we need to get back to. Yeah, the president is arriving by Mont Gaulle. Fuck you, balloon. So, so as soon as the shots are fired, the cockpit is locked down, right? And the pilots go, okay, we got to land at the nearest Air Force Base, which is Ramstein Air Force Base in Germany. The F-15s come up to meet the... The haste to make an emergency landing, that's right. I'm actually locking off now, see you later. Yeah, so they rise a rise a to Ramstein. And I need we're going to do that.

And they have all the emergency services laid out for them. They're about to land and Gary Oldman, who has now seized control of the plane, has killed all of the secret service guys, except Gibbs and taking control, taking everybody hostage in the conference room. It's very upset about this. He doesn't want them to land. So in order to stop them landing, what he does is he bangs on the cockpit door, that doesn't work. And the pilots in there are like, whatever happens, we got to land the plane. Then what he does is he gets a sort of like, I would say, finger-sized amount of plastic explosive, which I guess must have been in the CIA and the Secret Service arsenal because he didn't bring it with it. Yeah, I would that they would have that on a plane. I don't think you can set off

plastic explosive if I've come shot, but I think it I think it's part of the point of plastic explosive. It's very difficult to detonate. You have to roll it around, you can kick it, you can shoot it, you can burn it. You can use C4 to cook with. It's very bad for you, don't do that, but you can do it. How do you set it up? I'll see you for a friend. With a detonate, so you have to have a small amount of electrically operated low explosives.

Not to get too into it. But anyway, so... Just flying that down. I also like to note that the pilots are having a good time at the very least, because in one conversation with a tower they go, we are coming in red hot in the exact cadence, and I'm like, they're loving it. They're fucking... Yeah, they can be important. They know how to fucking put on a show.

Yeah, it must be boring like flying Air Force one. You're like an Air Force colonel. And you're flying like a sort of a passenger airliner. That's good money though. It's probably pretty exciting. But so they attempt to land the thing, but then Gary Oldman shoots this amount of plastic explosives that should be enough to blow the nose off the plane. It all goes in one direction, like a shaped charge. It blows the door in. Gary Oldman is fine. He's shaped for charge. He's pushed up against that twine. The pilots are also fine. They're not mulched, they're fine, they're still flying the plane. And Gary open tries to coerce them at gunpoint to take off. And something I like, they don't

do it. He has to kill both of them. What then becomes, what I mean, no, here is just fuck off. This is bullshit. I mean, I was watching this film with someone else who also said that's bullshit. But so the plane is like teetering around and then Gary and his mate drive it around the airport and like, but what I said is like, I believe the Air Force one can do things that other aircraft can't do. I believe that it's got special materials

or like it's got special super engines or something like, I believe that it can maneuver like this, I buy it. It's a special plane. He gets one of his friends into the pilot's seat. And then- This is Peter Parker's landlord from Spider-Man 2, by the way. This guy was the swelliest man on God's Earth.

Perfect, Father. He just kind of swerves the plane around a bit until he is able to take it off again at the last second. It makes a fantastic face while he's doing that by the way. He's like an infolgan. But he successfully takes off. They leave Ramstein behind. We get a nice shot of all the guys who are like expecting to run up and still on the plane

just running after it being lined up. That, which is nice. Fuck, T-lads. Bitch, mate. And then we meet the vice president. Yes, Glenn Close. Oh, another one I love to see. Fantastic. Yes, yeah, absolutely. And she's like, where's the president? Er...

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He's got to be in the escape pod. And we see, this is the like the big twist of the movie in the first part is, we see the rescuers come up to the escape pod, open it and it's fucking empty. Because absolute legend that he is, President Jack Ryan has simply decided to stay on board and die hard this year. Yeah, I wrote full caps.

He's still on board, baby, because I was like genuinely really good reveal, actually, phenomenal. Yeah, it's fun. I mean, yeah, I knew that was going to happen. Yeah, it's obviously occurring. Also, Devon, I knew you'd be pleased because when we see the vice president, all the men who are not wearing uniforms are wearing the traditional U.S. and dress, which is a very huge suit.

Huge suit, of course. The huge suit in another recouter amount of movies about American power and American politics, the big letter A badge clipped to your huge suit pocket. We love to see one of those. How's the affordability only go wearing a suit that fits? That's true. That's true. So we also, this is where we see the nuclear thing just work,

which I like. Yeah. I kind of like that. That's unprocally for this. Yeah. Yeah. That's the one thing where it appears like the US security state is competent. Because even though it's been betrayed, right, the way in which we see it get overcome in this way is like, it's dipshit stuff. And I know it's like, it's the first 20 minutes of the movie. You've got to get it out of the way. But I don't know, left a bad taste to my mouth because of how this respected our brave federal law enforcement officers, I'll save.

And also, I pre-Glan Closers job in this movie, movie. This is to eat shit repeatedly for the entire runtime. Yeah, it's so funny because she does a... Actually, we'll get to the negotiation, but it's deeply funny because she still has to be doing like the... I am attempting to understand your intentions on the phone and like, Oldman is just going beast mode. Yeah, Oldman deploys a series of what I would say, largely anime villain lines, like she asks him.

She gets one of the phones. She's like, oh, what do you, what do you want? And he hits her with the arrogance to think you could ever understand my intentions. I mean, fuck it. What, what, what are I doing with that? You're like, I'm just, oh, I don't know, reply for this. It's a good time to say that Gary Olman is so good in this fucking film.

He's really good. His acting is so amazing. He has showed up for this. Well, we see that he's a communist, first of all. He wants to drag all the capitalists out of the Kremlin, shoot them, put Radack back in charge. Or is he a kind of Alexander Dugin guy, where he's like, well, I'm a communist,

but it's actually because I'm a fascist. Because he talks about, he wants a Eurasian empire, which is what the Russians currently want. And like, again, Alexander Dugin claims to be a communist, but of course, we know he isn't a fascist. Yeah, of course. Yeah, they call him an ultra-nationalist, which I've always found to be sort of an imprecise term

in Russian politics. I would use revanchist instead, this idea that you have been robbed of your territories by Treaty. Yeah, I don't know. We have some accoutrements of communism, and some of his objections, like Oldman's particularly, do seem like ideological ones, as much as Russian supremacist ones. But we see that because he's a communist, he's also a misogynist. So while he's talking to him, he's like, oh, you must be sweating through your silk blouse for women,

that women wear. She's quite like... Okay. He makes some casual jokes as well. He's quite funny. Yes. He's having a good time with it because he like fully understands that he has every single card in his hand at this point in the movie. Yeah. And like frankly, you would if you had power over the United States government, you, I mean, if you, if you are there do, you should enjoy it a little bit, you know.

I would be fucking show, but 100%. Yeah. You should enjoy it a little bit, you know. I would be fucking showboat and 100%. Yeah. Hi, howdy, howdy, comes on the intercom. He's like, hello, I am the man who is in charge of Air Force One, the most secure aircraft in the world. Oh, just really, just really sort of like landing.

We'll end zone dance there. He's like playing drums. Oh, it's down the intercom. Yeah. But so we see that he doesn't know that the president is still aboard. He thinks that they've rescued him. But additionally, they't know that the president is still aboard he thinks that they've rescued him Additionally, they don't know the president's still aboard no no not not until a bit later But the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff who looks exactly like George Kastanzo

It's so good. It says Says the point of the movie Damn it nobody does this to the United States that this will be the like a biting point of the movie. Damn it. Nobody does this to the United States. This will be the abiding point of the movie. Damn it. It's supposed to happen to us. Yeah. But we have to find out that President Jack Ryan is a badass.

Yes. Well, and crucially, before we do that, Gary Olman says, release general ratic. And I will execute a hostage every 30 minutes until you do. Yes. Yeah. We also get a really fun bit earlier on which I quite like is a little touch where

Vice President Glenn close. I'm not saying our name because it's fucking vice president Bennett and last movie was president Bennett and I can't be fucked with these guys It was you know it was Dennis. It was nice of Jack Ryan to appoint Vice President That's a fucking libass man. Yeah, it really is. It is like a merry chanee thing. John K. Sir. We what the fuck was I saying? Oh yeah, there's a bit where like they're trying to discuss how these guys got on board and like one of the generals just like lean zone goes maybe they had some help from Moscow and everyone fucking ignore them and I think that that's really nice. Which is like no big dickhead shut up.

It's like no sale. No. But so we have to find out why President Harrison Ford, Jack Ryan, is a badass. That's right. And so one of the generals just goes, yeah, he owes his commanding officer in Vietnam. He got the Medal of Honor. Did more helicopter rescue missions than anybody? Uh, So maybe.

Did more helicopter rescue missions than anyone? This guy, one of the most bullets fired ass mother for shut up. Never seen a helicopter, but that was him. I was keeping a big, sort of like GTA pause screen statistics thing of all of my dudes in Vietnam. And he was the highest number of bullets fired. Absolute absolute. Don't stop.

Who's my best guy? He finished every mission. He'd got all five of the mini kits stashed throughout the level. Every single fucking time. No swear. Every optional objective. New new record.

He first did be at every optional objective, new, new record. Need for a speech, Vietnam. Yeah, Vietnam. He did Vietnam again with animatedies on his phone. He's finished and re-enlisted as a private. Did you, did you Vietnam game plus? This is a problem with Harrison Ford in this movie, right? Is Harrison Ford, all of his action guys are beleaguered, right? Every time it's white, it's what makes his Ryan good.

As Jack Ryan is meant to be like a desk guy who at some point was going to be a marine and then got like two injured and now isn't. There's just some kind of... He got a blind. In this, yeah, yeah, yeah. In this, he's just flatly, you know, a badass, right? The original casting for this was Kevin Costner. Oh, and I think... He's just flatly, you know, a badass, right? The original casting for this was Kevin Costner.

Oh, and I think that when they cast Harrison Ford instead, it kind of hindered this a little bit. Yeah, I suppose he doesn't quite have that kind of energy. He is a bit more beleaguered. Yeah, but so we see him escape from his hiding place where he is just he climbed like a six foot tall wall on the side of the pod and just hit up there. He gets down from there and he sort of does some metal gear solid shit, but presidential. Yeah. He sees the guard who has locked everybody in the conference room. And this is, he's lucky because this is a perfect stimulus response, Goon.

What he does is he just creates a distraction. He turns on the TV in his quarters and makes the guy come in there. And as he does, he jumps him in a hysterical bit. He like fully jumps out in both arms out. Yeah, the subtitles for this struggling and grunting. Yep. And the two guys fight over this submachine gun. And Jack Ryan wins Harrison Ford takes the gun, but not the body armor because presumably that would be gay. I gotta be honest with you, I see how effective the body armor is in this fucking movie,

right to leave it on the floor, made up by. The only one who benefits from it is Gary Oldman later on. Well, let's just get shot in it and that just dies of it, like. At this point, the bad guys realize something is up

and they go around firing into the toilets of Air Force One, presumably in case there are trans women in there. Yes, of course. But Harris afforded hiding in a cupboard and is fine. He has escaped through the toilet, like itself, I guess. I think he, he, he, he, he, he, like, finds up some sort of dumb waiter,

maybe like a internal lift or something like that. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And this is all intercut with back in DC, Vice President Glenn Close, who she will be arguing this throughout the entire movie and she's right that, hey, maybe the president shouldn't have just stayed up there. Maybe it was irresponsible of him. She's fairly right.

She's just something like, it's not his right to decide what to do with his life. Like, his job is to serve the American people. He doesn't have the right to do this. Yeah. Which is like, I'm five point. There is such a thing as being too important to let yourself get killed that easily. This is not something that the movie respects. This is something which you'll be wrong about repeatedly. So Gary Alpen finds his dead friend and he was like, we're in Afghanistan together, which is an interesting touch. friend and he was like, we're in Afghanistan together, which is an interesting touch. And another thing that points towards communism here, interesting to treat Afghanistan as like sort of analogous, like equivalent to America in Vietnam. Yes.

And it's be like, oh yeah, I was in this sort of like doomed imperial war. Yeah, it's interesting that those two scenes kind of come hot on each other's heels, actually. Yes. We get the guy who's's like I was in Vietnam with him But he's great and then we get Gary been like oh, we were in Afghanistan. It was also great. It's it's yeah We were they like dark Married quite like it. I thought I'd you know, I like to run empty set the dark moon is a bit I'm gonna shoot myself in the head

His red grass Well not too different you Gary oldman goes into the conference room with the hostages and he's like, Yo, what's up? It's time to execute one of you. The National Security Advisor comes forward and he's like, Yo, I'm really important. Do you let me negotiate? I'm the National Security Advisor.

Nothing happens here without going through me. And the guy, I was like, thank you for volunteering. It just like shoots him through the fucking head. Yeah. He has a fantastic client. He's like, Stone fucking cold by man. He shoots it. And he's like, it was a good negotiator.

He bought you another 30 minutes, and then like leaves, and you're like, ah, you fucking don't. You know what? Take care of him before I'm not a given shit. Fucking king. Then we get the first of several really nice scenes with Gary Almond where he takes the first lady and the first daughter.

And he tries to humanize himself first lady and the first daughter and he tries to humanise himself to to Alice the first daughter and he says, you know, I've got three kids of my own. I'm sorry you had to see that. Is that the first time you've ever seen someone be killed? And he says, you know, I kill people because I believe because I have political ideology. I have something that I believe in. And he points out correctly that he says, you know, your dad kills people all the time. Oh, I have the drop for that, even. Uh, yes.

Because it does it in a taxi though with a telephone call and a smart bomb. It's smart bomb. Yeah, he goes, hey, listen, you ever heard of Abdulrahman Alawak? Yeah, no, you haven't, because he's been turned into fucking paste by a drone. And now Alaw, actually even. Okay. Not good. And she's like, you know, you and my father are nothing alike.

And he's like, you're not a dark mirror of him. But I really like his justification, though. He says, you know, my doubts, my fears, my own private morality dissolves in this moment for this love of Mother Russia. It's good. It's like, is that not? And I thought the movie was really setting us up for something here because that is kind of what the Americans do. And like, remember that this movie opened with Harrison Ford saying, we need to commit

extra democratic violence when we believe that we are morally right. And here is the villain of the film doing that very thing. And I was like, oh, we must be building to some kind of great confrontation between these two ideologies. Surely, I was like, I'm really like with his films going, you fool, the resolution is in that scene itself where Alice the character goes, no, you're not. And that's the end of the literal, literal childhood brain.

To be like, no, you're not the same. because when we do it, we're the good guys. Yes, yeah. Literally a child's understanding of politics. There is, I have the good guys thing later on where he goes, Who does it here? Link in here. Oh, this is my classic, yeah. Oh, that's music.

I hate it. So much. So Harrison Ford is down in the cargo hold. He uses the satellite phone that he finds in someone's baggage to call the White House. We get some jokes here about him reading the manual first, running out of battery or the switchboard operator going, yeah, sure, you're the president. I thought the switchboard operator going, yeah, sure, you're the president. The switchboard operator. I think it was kind of funny. So he puts himself on speakerphone just in time to get held at gunpoint by one of the Russian guys.

And at this point, he has to go, hey, you know what would suck would be if one of the fighter jets outside fired a missile at the plane knocking us all over so I could kill you. That'll be bad if that happened for you probably. Yeah, he's like, it wouldn't even like hit us. The order part would take care of it, but it would definitely cause us all to lose our footing. I love the fun. I love the idea of missile countermeasures being it just flies the plane better than you.

Yeah. I love that so much. Because that's what happens. The vice president orders them to fire on the plane. It knocks everybody off balance. And then the plane locks the pilot out of its controls and just does like a slight turn to the left. Like God. Which is invasive for the world. Just in case. It's not allowed. Fuck. Yeah.

Take invasive maneuvers. Mm. Let's lose some chaff. Doesn't really do that much. Yeah. I will say this. Ordering a missile strike on your own position when you're on a plane just to win a fist like is fucking sick.

You know what? That's cool. I'm handing you this one. I tell you what, if you like shots of Harrison Ford punching somebody, this is a great movie for you because there are so many of him just cold cocking somebody. As he does in this case, he holds cocking him. That was just cool. Cold cocking, yeah.

Cold cocking. That's the thing. It's a phrase. It's a known phrase. I'm not. He absolutely cleans this That's that's a thing. It's a phrase. It's a known phrase. I'm not absolutely cleansed this guy's cock Yeah, he cleansed this guy's cock with his with his face He fists the shit I should have drawn attention to it. I recognize my mistake. No, you shouldn't have it's a perfectly normal phrase

No, it's no it's not What happens when I go into a women's bathroom? Thank you good night. I Got cold clock I want to litigate this cold clocking why why would it be cold? I wouldn't be cold cocking it is cold clocking Alice, for serious. It's cold, cold cock, verb. Knock someone out, typically with a blow to the head. Oh, yes. You're not just looked up cold clock and it's the same thing, but it says informal in brackets. Oh shit. Damn, Alice is out fanciness.

Oh, no. I'm seeing one. I, net, yeah, yeah, yeah. You made one of the classic blunders. You've gone in against me one, you know That's the fucking one Yeah, yes, yes, when he called cox, well when he called cox and what happens then fine He kills that guy But in the course of so doing he like hungus him through a fridge

Into some milk and he contemplates the milk What is the significance of the milk? That's a cold car. The milk, the milk is that he sees something leaking and he's like, damn, just like this guy's car that I just... That's a side effect of the extra deal. Yeah, sure. No, what he thinks is, I got a land of the plane.

I got to make the plane land. What if I squeeze all of the plane. I got to make the plane land. What if What if I squeeze all of the fuel out of it like milk from this cast of milk? I didn't realize that's what he was thinking. I thought he was just like oh yeah American milk. No, this is beautiful shot Where it's like it's like a two shot of Harrison Ford on the left and a milk He's like I got of Harrison Ford on the left and a milk. I'm never right. He's like fully like, little quiz in this milk. You know, cinema.

Why, every frame of painting. So, so, so, because he's on the phone, they get him on the phone with the, the maintenance chiefs who do the maintenance, Air Force One, and they're like, okay. I quite like this bit. This is fun. You gotta find the plain fly goods switch

and you gotta switch it to no. Ah. But because there's no no, what you've gotta do is you've gotta, you've gotta cut two wires and wire them together. And then in a classic, I said M for Mancy kind of thing. The phone goes off just as he's about to tell him what the other wire is.

And so he just has to improvise, he has to take a chance. And of course, the chance that he takes is to leave the red, white, and blue wires. Yeah, it's red, white, blue, green, yellow. And he's like, he's cut the green and he has to cut another one. He's like, I'm not touching the red, white, and blue, baby. And the problem is, you're red, white, and blue. This is his fucking fault, because I knew it was yellow. I heard him on the fucking phone. This guy was talking over him, going, you're breaking, white and blue. This is his fucking fault, because I knew it was yellow. I heard him on the fucking phone.

This guy was talking over him, going, you're breaking up, he didn't hear it. It's his own fault. If he crashed a plane, it would have been on him. However, he didn't, because of the damn red, white and blue, baby. Yeah, so they dumped the fuel out, which is gonna be a problem later on. But meanwhile, remember Melanie?

I love Melanie. Yeah, very much. But we didn't get too attached, because Guy takes Melanie hostage, and broadcasts this over the plane in plane intercom so everyone can hear it and he says, look, we know there's somebody down there in the bag of chold fucking around. He thinks it's a secret service agent. Yes.

And he's like, look, either you can surrender yourself within 10 seconds or I'm going to shoot Melanie in the head and then he does. And at this point, it's also important to note that the first lady and presence daughter are both in the sort of like control cockpit with Oldman at this point, it's also important to note that the first lady and presence daughter are both in the sort of like control cockpit with Oldman at this point. So he's just sort of doing this in front of them. I like this, though. It doesn't at least spare you from what the idea of not negotiating with terrorists means. And it is like, yeah, okay, sometimes you've got to let somebody get killed in front of you.

I don't know. That's how we got this podcast. That's how we did it. That's right. Well, no, we all had to do the born program thing. We had to commit to this program by like shooting a guy who was handcuffed to a client. Yeah, take a bunch of pills. Yeah, that was very easy.

That's really, that's the whole process. So this occasion's another really nice ideological confrontation because the first lady is horrified by this. And it says says you know how they do this She executed on our woman. I have I have the drop Perfect oldman delivery really really nice great line. He says it took her at the first Gulf war Which we got to see three kings at some point to talk about that. Yeah, but Yeah, he says it's war. She's like it's... Talk about the first goal for which we got to see three kings at some point to talk about that. Yeah. But...

Yeah, he says it's war. And she's like, it's not war, you know, you're killing civilians. And he's like, don't fucking tell me about killing civilians. It's really, really good. I'm really looking forward to when the film confronts this politically. It's getting us coming up just a minute Yeah. So because the fuel is leaking, Gary Olman's like, yeah, what's up? I read in Wikipedia that you can do

a mid-air refuel on Air Force One. It's a nice diesel. He reads it on the press package and Melanie gave him when he came aboard. Yeah, it's cute. Meanwhile, President Harrison Ford has gotten to William H. Macy and friends and freed all of the hostages.

Possibly the only dramatic shot of a facts being sent, I've ever seen in an action movie, where he gets a message that they can parachute all of the hostages out using the many parachutes that Air Force One has, if they can get the plane to fly low enough and slow enough, and they have to do that under the pretense of refueling the plane, which glenclose like sees at the last second and she's around. Something else is quite fun is that the last who tells him to use the facts machine,

he says that if this works, I'll make you postmaster general and she's credited in the credits as future postmaster general, which I think is that's a really fun little. Yeah, that was that was. I think it's cute. Yeah. So so at this point, we have to get an untrained pilot who doesn't speak English to do aerial refueling in a 747 for the first time at night. And this goes about as well as you'd expect. In that, they noticed that the hostages are escaping by parachute. And of course, Harrison Ford is like, I'm staying, I'm going to get my family back. That's right. The thing about Harrison Ford, right, is aside from talking like a sort of Tennessee Williams lady. So, I was depended on the canister strangers. He also, he loves to risk his life.

Like, there is no sacrifice. This man will not self-sacrifice in. He's not just like, oh, take the last parachute. He's throwing excess parachutes out after you because of how much he wants to die. It's, I love this. It's so like, are you talking about, oh, well, there's your problem. He just kept getting back on the boat to die.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Stop trying to go down. You can live. Yeah, but if you just try to go down to cold cock. And so, there, a good. It's a normal thing to say. We've established this now. You just have to weather this for the rest of the podcast.

And so one of the goons notices that the hostages are escaping out the back of the plane. And he blows up in the door and it obviously depressurizes the plane. We get a tense moment, but Ryan is dangling out the back of it. William H. Macy saves him. And but then, like most of the hostages have escaped, but now Gary has the president. Yes. Yeah.

The parachute thing was, I found silly also, but so we deliver the president to Gary Oldman, and we get, we hope, this big confrontation, this big sort of battle of ideology. We kind of do Well, yeah in that Harrison Ford says how dare you sir? Well, not exactly what he what he says is And he's kind of mumbling. It's what's hard to make out but he says Have you no honor to do which to which Gary open essentially guys? Idiot. Well, great. So Gary open first of all beats up the president, which must be very satisfying.

But he says, he says, call the president of the Russian Federation and tell him to release General Ratic. And Harrison Ford says, no, I can't do that. I don't have the power to do that. I'm not the president of Russia. I can't just make him do this. If he does, he's going to be going, he's going to look weak, his administration's going to fall apart. I literally don't have the make him do this. If he does, he's gonna be going, he's gonna look weak, his administration's gonna fall apart. I literally don't have the power to do this.

And Gary Oldman has this really nice bit, he says, oh, the most powerful man on earth, and suddenly there are things that you can't do. And he quite correctly points out this, and calls out this kind of liberal pretense of powerlessness. He's like, you are Mr. I'm breaking the rules to do the right thing. You are Mr. Unilateral Action.

Don't fucking tell me that you suddenly can't do it because the Senate parliamentarian says that you can't. Oh no, we can't do this. It'll destabilize the economy. Fuck you, fucking do it. It's not a problem of like I can't. It's a problem of you don't want to because you aren't motivated to.

And so Gary Oldman says if you're not motivated, I'm going to fucking motivate you by killing your fucking family now. And I was like, my god, fucking brilliant ideological confrontation can't wait to see how they deal with this. Really nice. Let's say it from Abby on this one. Hello. My name's Abigail. That's wrong. I'm in this one. Kill that, that's right. Yeah, that's a great line about Russia too. He's beating up the president and he says quite accurately given that we're talking about Yeltsin and then sort of Clinton here. Yeah. It's like flat lead for him. And as it turned out, one of those...

Something wrong with the position by the way, but yeah. But I think he means in the, the sort of derogatory political sense. But as of course, it later turned out, one of those gangsters turned out to enjoy a bit of revanchism, a bit of ultra-nationalism himself. So I mean, if Gary Olman has just waited a few years, in fact, who does a lot of revanchism? We're reclaiming our lost territory. That's right. Yeah, well, me, Glenn Close is faced with the debate

of whether or not to invoke the 25th Amendment. This is so funny. This is such a... Well, that one is the way you can have guns in your home as well as the two of those. That's the way you can't let soldiers sleep in your house. Yeah. If a soldier knocks on your door, you have to go fuck off.

Amendment 25 is the president is assassinated. Is that an acetated? Then the vice president takes over and becomes the president, either like pro-temporary or if it's the other one. This actually happened a whole there for one one time when JFK got shot they had a swar in LBJ on force one and this is the source of tension in the scenes that aren't the tense ones because they keep it's like the fucking secretary of defense and the vice president arguing over who gets to be in charge. Yeah, it's sort of very Alexander Hague.

I'm in control here now, kind of thing. They literally pull in a guy to advise them on it. And like, which is... The Attorney General. She literally says, get me the Attorney General with a copy of the Constitution. Yeah, so Ella Braverman comes in and says, we can't let children socially transition.

It's dangerous. Right, thank you so much. There's so much. Let's fill it, Baker Hall, Hall who I do again love to see. Yeah, yeah. But it's just so funny that that's the source of conflict on these suits. So she agrees to not count out touchdown Tom, right? She doesn't sign a thing, making her president because she trusts him.

We also get a great line from the Secretary of Defense. The United States is not negotiating with terrorists. They are a bedrock principle for 25 years. 25 years. Movie made in 1997. So bedrock principles in 1972. I can't best imagine. It's true. It's until 1986. Wait, around what? Yes, it're on contra. What? You're on contra. The sale of arms for hostages.

All right, okay. Look, the United States won't trade arms for hostages. He said it, he said it on the screen. Yeah, in my heart, I believe that's true. So fucking fun. But the facts, the facts tell me it's not Jesus, age, Christ. Yeah. So yes, you do.

Yes, you fucking do. Of course you do. Using a little tiny caliber. So President Jack Ryan calls Yeltsin and proves Olden correct that he is just like willing to, well, able to just tell him what to do. You can get a lot of politicians when you threaten to shoot their families. I can't do this through episodes in a row. I simply cannot do this through. You should be the president of the United States.

If you're listening to him, you should call the president of the United States. If you're listening to you are you should call the president of UNICEF. If you're listening to your other president of the United States, I do. How's it going? You're welcome on anytime. Let me into your house. So they release Radek from prison and the whole time, past of the military is wasting for him outside with a fucking helicopter. All of the other prisoners, as he's walking out, are singing the international to the fucking crew up

because they continue using the international as the sinister music as Gary Oldman appears to be winning. And it's like, this is a song about like human rights and like, I have stood in British political meetings where people have sung this song. Yes, I remember fucking Trafalgar Square erupting in the international when Jeremy Corbyn came out when he was also released by the president of Russia. Yeah, similar moment of threat to democracy.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, kind of was supposed to assassinate him, of course. And he was 16 years old in Yemen. And at this point, Gary Oldman is like, okay, you know, when I said I was going to release you and the first lady's like, yeah, you said you were going to release us. Forgive me, I lied. Great. That's nice.

I, I think this is the point where I want to talk about the sort of the liberalism of this movie and Patriot games in particular, where there is a terror of any sort of like foreign actor who might act unilaterally, who might so like cheerfully disregard our beautiful norms. And and gains so much strength from that that initially the norms are powerless before they can reassert themselves. There's this real kind of like wounded patriotism here, this idea that liberalism might be stabbed in the back by one of these guys and they're so strong and hot and it's really weird. I think this film is like the missing link politically between the liberalism of like how dare you, sir, of clear and present danger and the kind of outright fascism of the Jason

Boone, it's fine to do extra-d judicial murder because we say it is. But also ironically, we know that democracy and freedom doesn't mean anything anymore. Because if you don't, you are going to be humiliated by Sean Penn or Gary Oldman or some other English character actor. But we see here that the kind of muscular liberalism is the step between like liberalism and fascism. Yes, yeah. And it's not muscular enough. No, it's not.

That's only criticism, really. I mean, is that it's sort of nice. Liberalism should be more jacked. Yoke to liberalism. Yeah, you know what? Absolutely. I do have some sort of sympathy for that because I think everyone should be jacked and yoked.

I think it'd be sick. Mm. Yeah. I'm looking for a sort of like yoke darkrissy, like rule of the jungle survival of the hugest. That's what I'm looking for this sort of like yokedocracy, like rule of the jungle survival of the hugest. That's what I'm looking for here. Yeah. Yeah. Like that, except we also like love women. Women's rights are all up there. So, so, so, so the president, the president escapes from his, his duct tape restraints. It's not difficult. You don't need a shot of blast to do it. It doesn't, and I never lays flat. It just sort of rolls itself into twine. You don't need a shot of glass to do it. It doesn't, it never lays flat. It just

sort of rolls itself into twine. You can just bullshit. Yeah. So he then kills a bunch of them and attempts to rescue his wife. Does this release my wife? Yes. Yeah, I suppose he does. The chief of staff who we had earlier seen be kind of a coward is redeemed by taking a bullet for the president. Yeah, this is the first of two get down Mr. Presidents, but I want to just like highlight first of all, most chief of staff jumps in the way of a bullet. Some of the lesser. The lesser certainly down.

Yes. So Gary over makes it down to the parachute deck with the first lady. He throws the parachute out, so he's got the only one. And he's like, fuck you, I win. Finds Jack Ryan, like, wraps something around him. He says the line. As he snaps Gary Oldman's neck, he goes... Get off my plane. A whole audience cheer. like snaps Gary Altman's neck he goes

Whole audience cheers But so Gary Altman has now been killed yeah, and now we enter the phase of the movie that I refer to as still going huh Yeah, it's still going First of all he has to prove Gary Altman right again in that he has to go and get a guy killed with a phone call. So he runs back up, he calls Yeltsin back and he's like, can I get the Abbey kill that can't drop please? Kill that can't. He literally, he just rings it off, he's like, take him out. Like they just open fire on this guy. They shoot him in the back.

They just open fire on Radick, which is like, again, yeah, you have simply proven Gary Ultimate. He's the next to the prison. But in back in the prison, they released him from the prison. And as he's like walking out, they give him his full fucking uniform back. He puts it on. He leaves and then they just shoot him again. I said, what happened here? What was the point of any of this waste of a good uniform? I'm curious about Radik as well, because like, first of all, if he has all of this support,

then the situation seems a lot less tenable. Any work you've marked at him, good stuff. Yeah, but also, I think we have to talk about American belief in the Soviet and then Russian military, which until the recent sort of clown car ask of pades remained impervious to the facts. Like almost all the political fiction written about Russia after the dissolution of the Soviet Union was, what if the hardliners seize power?

It's in the saint, even. What if the hardliners come back and we get a second Stalin? Mean Sanders crossed. Well, this is the thing. This is the thing. There were no hardliners. The hardliners at this point were busy selling the services of their own special forces to various oligarchs to blow each other up in traffic and Moscow.

The Soviet military, by the end of the Soviet Union, was a joke, a very dangerous joke, but it was never a serious political actor in the way that so much of this fiction imagines. It was a tool to be divided up amongst various fiefdoms, and that's how it was. How it's forward to that happening in this country? It's common. The other thing about Radek is he's played by Yurg and Prokna, just sort of like collecting a check. His entire direction was just like walk down a hallway and then here's your money.

Yergan, be very man for, welcome to you. Be a sort of scary name, a guy in the next plane to what he's in. He was in like Judge Dread, not that one, the other one and he was also in June, not that one, the other one. He most notably in the reason why he's in this, he was in Dust Boats. That's right.

So, Wolfgang Pederson was just like, want to come back, collect a paycheck to walk down the hall and he was like, sure. God, I love dustboard. It's so fucking good. Here's the thing, right? We're setting out seasons here. At some point it is going to be Kil'James Bond, does World War II. We're going to be there for a while and we we're gonna have to do Dustboard, but anyway.

So he's dead, and at this point, Harrison Ford and William H. Macy are like, we need to fly the plane into the climax of the movie. It's just such a legendary act to that for a bit part. It's just always very funny to me when I see a guy like that. But yeah, no, welcome to the point. I have another one of my notes that's just,

another one of my notes that's just fuck off. Yeah. Where he's like, oh, we got to land the play in ourselves. But wait, we have to do some ace combat shit because some migs have taken off from radic controlled air bases in Kazakhstan. And then immediately, yeah, immediately Glenn Close just goes, violate the space of Kazakhstan now. Well, that's space of Kazakhstan now.

Well, that's the less concerning thing. Like that's just self-defense at this point. The idea of like the Air Force of a country trying to shoot down Air Force One is a good way to turn Kazakhstan into a sort of like glass parking lot. Yeah, I don't think, I mean self-preservation. Yeah, I don't think I mean self preservation. Yeah, I don't think it would

And then but then the mix fire at F.O.S. One Top Gun turns up and then we and then we get the most incredible fucking get down Mr President mr Invent and award to give it to this guy, but this is my insane shit. I've ever seen And I'll let I'll let someone else. Did night cross for this guy. Reminding me very strongly here of the childhood game, get down Mr. President, which is where your entire friend group just sort of like put your hand to your ears

like you're talking to earpieces and the last person to do that is Mr. President and gets tackled by all of the others. That's one of the clowns. Yeah, very, very good. Yeah, classic. But so what happens is that a bunch of the mugs get destroyed, but one of them fires a missile at Air Force One, which has expanded all of its countermeasures.

The magic plane turns slightly to the left, also pilot, doesn't work anymore. And so one of the F-15 pilots is like Mr. President, get down and flies his F-15 into the path of the missile. This is something I'll say. I would simply have used my countermeasures on my F-15, but I'm different, but good night crossed to this guy, he wanted it. Yeah, no, he went for it, yeah. You don't see a lot of these kind of guy explodes shots in movies anymore where it's like

a shot of the guy screaming and then the plane blows up, whatever. It's kind of guy explodes shots in movies anymore where it's like a shot of the guy screaming and then the plane blows up, whatever. It's kind of a lot of stuff. Yeah, we need more of those. It was like a shitload in Star Wars. And I'm just never again. Oh yeah, yeah. I wrote down here.

So the American military plane kind of takes a plane bullet for the plane president. He does. In the planes, in the planes universe, is Air Force one, the president. Yes. I'm going to go ahead and immediately say yes. Yeah, and Air Force one, like the core sign changes depending on, yeah, when a new plane is elected president, yeah. But, but, but thing is, the thing is though, the plane to universe is also the cars universe. What's the presidential

limo then? Is he just something that like gets inside of the president? That's a great question. Like, foremost carsologists are working on this as we speak. We don't have to like, make it. I don't know, but like Barack Obama was the first car president to have ever been and there was a massive backlash to it. It all been played. Yeah, because of the massive backlash. It all been, sorry, hatchbacker, Bob. Yeah, because of the mess Back Sorry, I'm sorry

I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry

I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry Oh, that's right there. Oh. But yeah, they'd all been played up until then. There's still never been a boat president. They keep being like, oh, should we have a boat? It's like, no. I'll never do it. It's a boat vice president. The boats are electable if you vote for them.

Shit. Oh, shit. It's so sick. So, Air Force One, the president so, so, so, so, so I've ever seen. This is so cool. They make the executive decision, which is to use an MC130 with Air Force Power Jumpers on it and have them zipline air to air into Air Force One, strap the people to themselves and then zipline back. Yeah, and then the AC-130 lowers, so the z ziplines going from F-1 down to the AC-130 and then you zipline back again.

It's so, so fucking cool. And I was like, oh my God, I wanna do that. Don't know if that works. But the point is- I'm gonna stick that. Harrison Ford. President Jack Ryan has to make several more self-sacrificing decisions.

So every time someone is like here, put this rescue strap on, he's like, no. He's wounded, no, my wife. Yeah, my wife, my daughter, this one random guy who took a bullet for me. And but also, will he make sure he's still there? And so, Gibbs, Gibbs. Yeah, he just did, he's here.

Gibbs. American Mitchell. I'd like to just look at this point, I would not do any more trade or shit if like Radik's dad. He is away free and clear. He's like, he's saved the president's life. I would stay, but he's probably gonna go all.

And then as soon as we were off the plane, I would resign sighting, but maybe I was one who didn't properly lock the gun safe or something. That's the most out of jail fucking freakied you can possibly imagine. But as discussed, this man is ontologically a traitor and cannot not betray. Yes, he wants the Crohnstein Rosette. He wants it. I do like how he's in half of the scene on the plane.

They give him a gun and he doesn't betray them. He doesn't betray them for another hour of the movie. He's, my man is biding. But then at the very last moment, he delivers the perfect line. He turns his gun on the president and William H. Macy. And he, as they're about to get the last rescue strap and he goes,

I'm in the strap. Thank And he goes. Thank you sir. Thank you for your fucking service mate. I would say that the pilot of the C1 Thursday has just before this said. Roger moving into the receiver position. So and here's the danger. That's the wrong one again. Great big cum. There you go.

I got a label. That's the danger. That's wrong one again. Great big cum. There you go. I got a label. That's what he thinks. Yeah, he says give me the strap. Give me the strap. And he shoots with the image Macy, which is a real shame. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, like takes the strap as we all knew he could zip lines down onto the receiving plane. And the the strap the zip line comes off on Air Force One's end. And so Agent Judas, yeah, they crash into the Adriatic Sea and he dies. And then then the president is dangling.

There's a great long shot of him in this sort of open door being like, no, it's perfect. And then the president is dangling out the back of the AC one 30. It's quite. They, they, they, they really in the dangling president. And then in a line that I wrote down, how long have you been saving that shit for? If you're not familiar, Air Force one is not the name of the plane. It's the name of the call sign. Any Air Force plane that has the president on board is Air Force one.

If it's, if it's an army plane, it's army one. If it's a navy plane, it's a Navy one, all of this. So they want to figure out what, if it's a Civil One, it's an executive one. As they're trying to figure out on the radio if the president is in the field. The president's shoes, shoes one. Must be.

The pilot goes, yeah, when we're actually Air Force One now, please don't use our dead name anymore. The pilot goes, yeah, when we're actually Air Force 1 now, please don't use our dead name anymore. And the whole place erupts, we see the Vice President violates the Presidential Records Act because she just tears up that directive to like, seize power. Yeah, which I would like to know, they like, they mention that directive

and I like, oh, I need to be signed by a majority of like the cabinet. And like, when she gets it Every single signature block has been filled out like every single Connors like this guy's not present anymore and just her is like Let's do let's do the time on a tradition and let's see where he's going with this But then I I was expecting I was expecting a scene when we talk about the aftermath where like maybe, or maybe where Harrison Ford like reassesses this policy thing he announced

at the start in light of the fact that he's just been in a situation where somebody used extra democratic violence because they believed it was the morally right thing to do. But it's said the film just fucking ends. Yeah, or conversely, the US is now in a shooting war with Kazakhstan. Like they have just invaded it because they tried to kill the president. I was so frustrated because it's like literally a child's understanding of politics is shown by this film to be correct. It's like no, violence is fine when we do it because we're the good guys. And it's like great, everyone thinks they're the fucking good guys. Yeah, we are though, to be clear. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, we're all out. If you listen to this, you are also the good guys, that's fine. Yeah, yeah. That's true. And you can do extra digital violence against the president if you'd like to. And this is why I would like to.

I would like to propose that we've meant a new award here on Gilchapal. Oh, okay, do some new as well. Yeah, the old man medal for unrefuted villainy. For villains who make good points that the film then just like does not address argue against or counter. That's a great one. That's a great one.

You're really fucking good, I dick. I feel like we could make some retroactive awards there. Oh, yeah. We could. Most villains in the Bond Filfs. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, not Dracks.

But yeah, there's a lot of medals on this one. I want to give Crohn's theme to the guy who took the strap. And I want to nominate, I want to nominate, get down Mr. Pilot for the good night as well. Is this a very American episode? We're giving out lots of medals, because we like the page. That's true. That's true. Everyone gets a combat action ribbon, we're giving out lots of medals because we like the page and the trade. That's true.

Everyone gets a combat action ribbon, not combat action. Everyone gets a little rainbow ribbon that you get for doing boobies. Yeah, yeah. And the Devon ribbon for being the sickest shit goes to Harrison Ford for ordering an airstrike on his own position to win a fist fight. That's not real. I was just trying to win the Cronstein Reset. Yeah.

You got an Alice Aversandum badge for contemplating milk for like best emotional resonance. Is like contemplating this milk like Yorick any previous winners so that one. No, no. You should come and see my play though, because there is a moment that is like that. But we do have a science-based system on this part. We do. It's called the Scums, it's too. It stands for SMAM, Cultural Incentitivity, Unprovoked Violence and Misogyny, nailed it. So, SMAM in this movie. That's for SMAM, called for a... Who does it here? This film is so powerful, but it's entire run time, like fully. There's no two ways about it. I kind of want to give it a full 007.

I think I I believe that I believe that. Okay. Fuck it. Why not? The president's secret service code name is literally Boy Scout. This movie by the way. What is it in real life? Depends on the president Barack Obama's was renegade.

The thing is they get they get to pick it themselves. It's again, it's the coolest job I've ever had. Yeah, give me a cool code name. And then all of the rest of the first family, they have to be of the same initial. But so, yeah, I'm going to look up presidential code names. What was Trump's code name? Yeah, I need to know what Trump's codename was. Oh, he's telling me it was Donald Trump. Codent Trump. Secret service code. That's the best president. Yeah.

Donald Trump, Donald Trump was mogul. Oh, really? Interesting. Interesting. Joe Biden is Celtic because he thinks he's Irish. That's so far. Like, you know what? Fuck it. Shout out to Joe Biden. What's going on,

man? Yeah, I think so. Yeah. No, I feel offended. How are you doing, man? I still, I still think about that clip where he like, honestly, like, honest to God, like forgets where he is and says that he thinks drunk driving shouldn't be an arrestable offense. Like, that's the funniest shit in the world. Anyway, yeah, sorry. Cultural insensitivity. Um, well, I mean, Kazakhstan is not a real place in this movie. It's just extra, it's just additional Russia. It's Serbia in a lot of ways. Yeah. And it's, and it's also Serbia. I don't know. It's, it's not that culturally insensitive, I would say. No. I mean, the only thing is like properly in the, in a foreign act foreign act of it properly insults is like or a seltzen Which I it's probably quite just a fight in all honesty correctly identify some as a joke and a puppet

Which is bitch man. Yeah, and that's just the way of things Mm-hmm. I feel like it's not nice to just use the nation of Kazakhstan as a kind of like fantasy villain I want to give it a couple points for that. How do we feel about a two or a three? I could do a two, certainly. Unprovoked violence. He literally starts with a speech about the importance of unprovoked violence. If not unprovoked, then unilateral violence.

Services relevant to us. I've just noticed that in 2008, Megan McCain's Secret Service codename was Peter Sellers. What? What? Are you talking about Peter Fischoff? Imagine being a secret seller.

You're a seller. You've had to live the sort of psychotic, clean life that you have to live to get Yankee White clearance. You've done all of the trading. You can do 15,000 pull-ups in an hour, you're there in your huge suit and you have to say into your sleeve or you'll lapel, Peter Sellers is in the residence.

New Gingrich was fuck off. Fuck off. You know what? You said that's a cool name to that. Just a new rabbit hole we've just discovered here. I'm sorry. A rabbit hole was hatch've just discovered here. I'm sorry. A rabbit hole was hatchback car bomber. Shut up, shut up.

A rabbit car bomber has just driven into the rest of the world. So I'd prefer violence. Yes, he talks about the importance of it, but the film... Show by plane. Because he's like, this is like, old ass. I love it. Yeah. I... it. Yeah. Ah.

Ah. Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh of administrative violence. Yes. And it says that it's fine pretty much. Like we see that when he kills Radack, who did not, as far as we know, order this is just a beneficiary of the attack. He's just like, okay, Kim will just come right now. Two. Two, yeah.

And misogyny. Well, there's hardly any women. Misogyny. Yes, I mean, it doesn't pass the most dollar to you that they do do things. They do the first lady like tries to kill Gary olden with a gun towards the end. We actually have a female vice president. Yes, true.

Who, or even though her role is basically trust the man. Yes. And also the secretary, like there are women in it, but their job is to like help men. Yes, yeah. And the best thing she can do is like kind of let him go off on one. Yeah, and instead of like exercising power. Yes, yeah. And even when she's right about him, like, she's sort of being wrong to expose himself to this kind of risk. She's still wrong. So yeah, I would say like a

Three maybe with that. So where does that leave us on air force? That leaves us with a total score of 14 Which is not bad. It's the best Jack Ryan film so far, mainly because Hanford Redo Topra remained unrated as a bonus episode. But despite being the politically most aggressive, it's way better than clear and present danger. Oh, hugely good. That's good.

Yeah, we don't see anybody committing war crimes that were asked to overlook. They all have enough screen. All of the villains are guys doing Russian accents. Yeah, it is classic. That's fine. You can is classic. That's fine. You can do that. That's legal. You can put that in any film.

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