Kill James Bond! - S4E17: The Bank Job

Episode Date: June 26, 2025

This week on Kill James Bond: A wrong righted. As much as we wanted it to be the case, the Transporter series featured ZERO HEISTS. So today, November and Devon meet in a shady basement to give Jason ...Statham his Due.  Based in broad strokes on a true-ish story, The Bank Job is the story of the 1971 Baker Street Robbery, where several- presumably jammy- bastards tunnelled into the safety deposit boxes of the Baker Street branch of Lloyds' Bank. ----- Remember to check out our reasonably-priced Patreon for our bonus episodes! Check out our curated collections for a route into our huge backlog of hundreds of hours of gold-standard podcasting! ----- FREE PALESTINE Hey, Devon here. In our home, we talk a lot about how insane everything feels, and agonise constantly over what can be done to best help the Palestinians trapped in Gaza facing the full brunt of genocidal violence. My partner Rebecca has put together a list of four fundraisers you can contribute to- all of them are at work on the ground doing what they can. -Palestinian Communist Youth Union, which is doing a food and water effort, and is part of the official communist party of Palestine https://www.gofundme.com/f/to-preserve-whats-left-of-humanity-global-solidarity -Water is Life, a water distribution project in North Gaza affiliated with an Indigenous American organization and the Freedom Flotilla https://www.waterislifegaza.org/ -Vegetable Distribution Fund, which secured and delivers fresh veg, affiliated with Freedom Flotilla also https://www.instagram.com/linking/fundraiser?fundraiser_id=1102739514947848 -Thamra, which distributes herb and veg seedlings, repairs and maintains water infrastructure, and distributes food made with replanted veg patches https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-thamra-cultivating-resilience-in-gaza ----- WEB DESIGN ALERT Tom Allen is a friend of the show (and the designer behind our website). If you need web design help, reach out to him here:  https://www.tomallen.media/ Kill James Bond is hosted by November Kelly, Abigail Thorn, and Devon. You can find us at https://killjamesbond.com , as well as on our Bluesky and X.com the every app accounts

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello and welcome to another episode of Kill James Bond. I am November Kelly and I am joined as always by my friend and co-host Devon. RILEY Alright, sunshine. How you do it. ALICE And I'm not joined, as always, by my friend and co-host Abigail Thorne. She's busy working, she's busy in her day job, which is gonna be... you'll know about it when you're allowed to know about it. But in the meantime, it's left to us to fill time.
Starting point is 00:00:46 RILEY It would be irresponsible to speculate, I find. ALICE Yes, yeah, absolutely. Because we don't know. RILEY Who knows what she might be doing? ALICE She could be doing any number of things, and you'll find out about it, or not, in due course. You just have to accept the mystery.
Starting point is 00:00:58 RILEY Accept the mystery, absolutely. ALICE Accept the mystery. But so, I thought, well, essentially what happened is I realized that I had an opinion last held by like a Met Police detective in 1975, which is, there's too much car shit around here, give me some honest blagging, give me some like a good honest like lunch pail bank robbery. And with that in mind... We've strayed from the path, I'm ready to admit it. I testify that I've been inadequate for the moment, okay?
Starting point is 00:01:31 We haven't talked about a heist in weeks. Months, some could say. The transporter, he wasn't heisting shit. Didn't heist anything. No. And so I thought about this for a moment, and I realized that I had seen, I don't remember why, a real six out of ten movie, a film that I like to call The Bank Job, which stars Jason Statham.
Starting point is 00:01:56 Perfect. 2008 as well. Spot on. We're letting him do it. Low budget British thriller? Like, this is ideal. Budget of 20 million, let's be fair to him. Okay fine, well let's say mid budget. Mid budget, yes. A reasonably okay- based as far as I can tell, on a true-ish story. Much of what follows is true. Quite a lot of what follows is basically kinda accurate-ish.
Starting point is 00:02:24 An alarming amount of what follows is basically kinda, like, accurate-ish. ALICE An alarming amount of what follows is true. Frankly, some of the weirdest stuff that we're gonna talk about that follows is true. This is a movie that gives me the unique experience of going, hmm, not sure about that, and then I look it up and know that that happens. That's historical. Yeah. RILEY Completely, yeah. We will get into this.
Starting point is 00:02:44 But Britain in the 70s was a politically odd place and time. ALICE Yes. Yes it was. And we're gonna try and reckon with that through the medium of a Jason Statham movie. RILEY Absolutely. ALICE So, we begin with the cheapest credits in the world, some real Windows movie maker shit, and some tits. And quite a lot of tits, actually,
Starting point is 00:03:07 because we start underwater, in the Caribbean, where people are swimming, like in Jaws, but if it was in the Caribbean. And it's really striking how much this movie front loads the nudity, but also there's a lot of it in here, to the point that you go, hmm, that's exploitative. LWX Yes. I thought it was front loading the nudity, and then there's a lot of it in here, to the point that you go, hmm, that's exploitative. Yes. I thought it was front-loading the nudity, and then it just continued kind of a pace for the whole movie, and I was like, oh, I see. It front, mid, and end loads the nudity. Yeah, although I will say, I do love Bang A Gong by T-Rex, so I am on board-ish for the opening, you know.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Yeah, it's a good movie. It's kind of ripping the montage bits from Layer Cake, which is a better movie and one we will do in the course of time. Yes, yes. But yeah, lot of tits, to the point that Gwen, who I was watching this with, said, and this is verbatim, I wrote this down, I need to see full Dong to be okay with this. Yes! See, this is what I'm talking about, alright? This is the social contagion, but I wanna start up.
Starting point is 00:04:06 We need Dong in movies. I think we can normalize that. I think we can, should, must, and will normalize that. To balance it out, I think. Absolutely. It's only fair. I do have a confession to make right up top here, before we actually get into the meat and potatoes of the movie, which is, I think this movie rocked?
Starting point is 00:04:24 I think I had a really good time with this movie. ALICE Yeah, they cooked it. I had a problem as well, which is very similar, which is that there's... You can kind of gauge how much I'm into a movie, there's a kind of a curve to it, right? Because if it's really bad, I'm taking a lot of notes. If it's really good, I'm taking a lot of notes. Like, Andre Rublev, I had like twenty pages of notes, I wrote a whole fucking essay about it.
Starting point is 00:04:46 But if it's just, like, good, if I'm just having a good time, but not much more than that, there's like a half hour gap in my notes where I was just engaged. I was like, this demands no greater thought from me, and I'm locked in. You know? Yes, that is also a second nested problem that I have as well going into today. But I'm pretty sure that we can put it together with the help of the Wikipedia page. Yeah. The bank job, some notes.
Starting point is 00:05:14 And so with that in mind, we're in the Caribbean because there is a threesome happening, again we're front loading the nudity, and a paparazzo or someone with a camera takes a photo of a woman in bed with, I think, two men, and we don't know what's gonna come of that, only that there is this photo now. RETO MEIER Yeah, just that it's there right away. ALICE Then we smash back to London, and it's 1971 and Jason Statham has sideburns, and I'm hooting. I'm hollering. WILL Everyone's just about finishing up dinner.
Starting point is 00:05:47 He does, and he's being let to fucking lean into the voice we know he wants to do this whole time. He's going, alright love. Yeah, it's his kind of like cockney hardman voice, and he's wearing a belted leather jacket, belted brown leather jacket, and like a black turtleneck as well. The turtleneck does not come off for the whole movie, pretty much. RILEY No.
Starting point is 00:06:11 I don't know if I was in The Contract or something, but he was wearing that thing the whole time. ALICE Let me tell you, this fucks. RILEY It fucks so hard. And he is a fella by the name of Terry Leather, the proprietor of Terry Leather Motors. ALICE Yep. Works out of a railway arch, a little garage. RILEY Sick. and their approach to resolve this is to just take a crowbar and just break windows with really comic timing, right? Because he will say something quite reasonable about how he's gonna get the money, but the money is tied up in the cars and he'll go...
Starting point is 00:06:55 I have to sell the car, yeah. It's very interesting. Kshh! He does, yeah, he calls him Pinky and Perky to their face, and he gets a bit of a brief hard man moment so we know what he's about before they just leave. He used to be in the life, but now he's trying to get at, right, because in order to get at, he is selling cars. Yes.
Starting point is 00:07:18 But he's bad at it, which I really like. But so, after they smash a bunch of his windows and leave, his friend, also, one of his employees is getting married. RIght? Yeah, he's really masterful relationship establishing for these two employee characters, because he walks up to the first one and he goes, alright, Eddie, looking forward to the stag do, your stag do, and then walks directly into the next room where the woman is and goes, looking forward to going to your husband's stag do. And it's like, perfect, alright, minimum amount of lines, we've established everything we
Starting point is 00:07:49 need to know here. And then that's it for them, basically. ALICE Absolutely. This is Eddie, the guy who's going to have the stag do that evening. Before they can go to the stag do, Terry's friend Martine pulls up in her car. And this is Saffron Burrows, she's a big fan, and she's like, I have got a job for you, or I want to see you about something, before the stag do, right?
Starting point is 00:08:18 Come and see me, because I've got a proposition for you, that might get you out of the shit that you're in with all the smashed windows and the debt to the mob boss, etc. etc. I've got a call to adventure for you. If you're interested. ALICE Exactly. Mmhm. Of course, back in the day, because it was the 70s, the call to adventure came on like a rotary phone, and it was like really inconvenient.
Starting point is 00:08:35 RILEY That's correct. It's bad, look, it was an improvement over the telegram to adventure, because that just took forever. ALICE Now we have to explain some of the context here because we get another little montage, and much of what follows is true. So, that photo is of Princess Margaret, and they don't name her for a while, when they do I'm actually shocked because, y'know, we're very deferential to the royal family in this country and you're not really supposed to know that Princess Margaret spent most
Starting point is 00:09:07 of her life with a succession of men hanging out of her back doors. Like, it's not, like, the done thing to acknowledge that. However, this movie actually does. Yes. For the benefit of the American listener, Princess Margaret is Queen Elizabeth's younger sister. Yes. So, this is serious high up in the monarchy shit. Margaret is Queen Elizabeth's younger sister. ALICE Yes. Yeah. WILL So this is serious high up in the monarchy shit. ALICE I think it's so funny that the royal family
Starting point is 00:09:31 for a while was like the one sister who can lock in, the one sister who likes horses, and the one sister who fucks outrageously. WILL It would have been a great sitcom. Like I would have paid a lot of money to be a fly on the wall there. The crown, not funny enough. Should have been way more bits. No, absolutely. That's true. But so, that photo is in the possession of a guy named Michael X, by analogy with Malcolm X, as in, black revolutionary, black nationalist, like, reclaiming your surname because your original,
Starting point is 00:10:07 like your kind of like given name at birth is associated with slavery, right? Yeah, absolutely. So, within that political tradition. However, Michael X is also, and we're learning about all of this through MI6, through the prison, or like MI5 or MI6, they never actually specify which, but like, this is... we... fuck. Okay, I've kind of scrambled this here, because we see not James Bond go into his office to have his M scene, and that's what sets off this montage. NARES Yes, we have a James Bond sort of analogous figure here, a guy by the name of Tim. Agent Tim. Tim Bond. Yep.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Timothy Bond. One of the other 00s, yeah, Timothy Bond. And he sees a woman that he works with in the lift on the way up to see Em, and she's got like a CND piece symbol bracelet on, and he's like, oh, a bit too much of that and we'll all be out of work. So he's got the Bond smug. Bond shit going on. Perfect. Yeah. But he goes in to see M, and M is like, Bond, what do you know about Michael X, the guy who's kind of trying to be British Malcolm X? And Bond goes, I don't know, show me the
Starting point is 00:11:21 montage. And they show him the montage. And the montage is Michael X. A couple of things went on here. I've got a couple of lists here. I really want to read that. He was the first non-white person ever to be charged in prison under the UK's Race Relations Act. He got 12 months in prison after the events of a Notting Hill race riots in 1958, where he said, if you ever see a white laying hands on a black woman, kill him immediately. ALICE Which, I mean, the fact that the Race Relations Act is ostensibly neutral in big air quotes, but in practice means that that is legally equal to the most outrageous racist shit you've ever heard is a fuss. But anyway, as M explains it to Tim
Starting point is 00:12:08 Bond, Michael X is, besides being a black nationalist, also a gangster. Used to be an enforcer for a slumlord, and we then cut to one of his acts of violence, and this is the first time when I go, that's interesting, I'm gonna google that, because I don't believe you. Yeah, no, this apparently happened. This happened, yeah. So, it was called, hang on, it was called the Black House, which is a sort of like, commune that they were running, and they pulled a landlord by the name of Marvin Brown to here, he was attacked and made to wear a slave collar, in a way to like, beat him up.
Starting point is 00:12:54 And we were like, obviously you see that in a movie nowadays, and you go, wow, that's an insane thing to make your antagonist do here. But then you go to Wikipedia.com and you go, oh! ALICE They were moving differently in 1971. I don't know what to do. ZAC Join Acorn and we can do this again. That's all I'm saying. ALICE I don't know if you can be doing that.
Starting point is 00:13:20 ZAC I don't know if you're allowed to. ALICE Well he wasn't, is the thing, because they tried- Very much he got charged for this. Yeah, he got charged for this. They tried to charge him for this, but he has the photos of Princess Margaret. And so in court, you see him in court being like, the white man will never convict me of a crime because they know that I have this photo of Princess Margaret with these two guys, right?
Starting point is 00:13:49 And this works, it's shown to work textually. Yeah, this is real, like, the British government at this time was weighing Black liberation versus Princess Margaret publicly known to having her pussy eaten as roughly equivalent matters, and they were willing to be like, fine. Yeah, I buy that, I guess. I don't know. It's an odd balancing act for them to be setting out here, I guess. As the movie does kind of demonstrate, that decision is in the hands of like a 60 to 70 year old white guy.
Starting point is 00:14:20 All of whom we all get into are also being blackmailed. Yeah, because they're also all going to the same brothel, which is run by the same madam, and they're all doing some vintage Tory sleaze. Like, I really appreciate this. Like, guy with the Tory MP accent being buckled into something and flogged, you don't get that shit anymore. You're so right, I'm not gonna sit here and wax poetic and miss the sex parties of past, but the ones of Fresen are way different. I don't know if I'm gonna say they're morally better or worse, but they're different. The thing is, Tory MPs of that genre were job creators in a thriving dominatrix industry.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Right? And that's not to say that the dominatrix industry isn't thriving in this country now, merely that it was a more secure way of being a sex worker if you had a bunch of Polaroids of the entire cabinet, like, licking your feet or whatever. Yeah. That makes a lot of sense. And now everybody's on fucking apps or whatever, it's not like... It's not the same.
Starting point is 00:15:31 You gotta do something about the Tory loneliness epidemic. Like if a bunch of them are getting catfished on Grindr or whatever, then that should tell you something, right? Like we've lost the role that sex work as a profession used to have in the political life of this country, y'know? It's such a fucking collapse of norms to be doing- going to Grindr for this kind of a thing. Just, ugh.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Awful. Awful! Terrible. Terrible scenes. Also, we don't even see fall down in this. We don't! It tits out the wazoo, every single scene in the background set dressing, but no dick. Shirtless at most.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Shirtless at most. Come on, man. Unacceptable. But anyway, if I go, so M is going, we'd love to get those fucking photos soon-ish, basically, is the plot here. Yeah. And specifically, we know where they are. We know that they're in a safety deposit box in a bank on Baker Street in central London, so we can't just have, like, any one of our guys do it, because then it comes back to
Starting point is 00:16:37 us, and it's a whole scandal anyway. Brackets in implication, my coworkers are gonna see my dick. Which is the thing everyone's terrified to avoid, especially in 1971. Well, there's a bit where they go, where our bond goes like, has anyone seen these photos? And our M just like, rightly smiles to himself and goes, someone has. But I shan't say who. Sweating, sweating, sweating. Yeah, so you you need to, like, find a deniable kind of person. You need to find a Jan Marsalek, right? You need to find someone in that role who isn't linked to us formally, but you can use as a cutout to do this job, and rob the bank. And so Tim's like, I know just the girl. And that's Martine, who, like, he knows, like, from... we don't know where exactly,
Starting point is 00:17:29 but she got out of getting arrested for trafficking drugs into the UK, and she called him to bail her out, and so now she owes him a favor. Absolutely. And we cut to her meeting Statham for this little drink. As a strip club, I think. I believe so. It may not be... Certainly a club with topless servers.
Starting point is 00:17:49 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's exploitative again. But, so, she's like, do you want to do a job? To which Statham, and this is my first instance of the accent that I have, but it was also a really good line, is like, Look, me and my mates, we've been involved with the odd bit of skullduggery. I would... I love him so much. We gotta bring back talking like this.
Starting point is 00:18:15 We do. We do, I agree. However, I'm also in a bit of a quandary here, because it's like, do I feel this much affection for Jason Statham? Because I've got the kind of Roger Moore syndrome of like, I watched an actor in too many things and now I've pack bonded to them. METEORITZ We are susceptible to this. This has been a historical issue for the podcast, yeah. ALICE Or, is it because of that one Twitter thread, and also a recurring bit that we did, that I low-key kind of believe on an internal level that Jason Statham is trans, and I am the devil's own trans mask
Starting point is 00:18:53 chaser? I don't know, I don't have an answer. LORENZO Is there evidence for this theorem that isn't, that he's short? ALICE No. I mean, not at all. I have no intellectual basis for this whatsoever, I'm transvestigating Jason Statham in the most grotesque way. RILEY He's only 1.78 meters this way, two centimeters
Starting point is 00:19:17 shorter than me. ALICE Swallowed than I am! Still. It doesn't matter. They keep filming him next to tall people. Every other action star is just somehow two meters tall, I guess. It's like if we were only ever photographed next to Mia Mulder. It's like damn, I guess Devon is just tiny, next to this normal sized woman. I am legit short though, is the thing.
Starting point is 00:19:42 So that's fine. You are. That is true. I am legit short, though, is the thing. So that's fine. You are. That is true. So... But what's wrong with that? Is that a fucking crime? No, no, quite the opposite.
Starting point is 00:19:51 But, like, so Timbond is watching from the bar, having ordered the most disgusting drink I've ever heard in my life. Oh, I missed this. It's a Camparian soda, no ice. Fuck. Just, uh, just a kinda... RILEY Just give me a warm, bitter drink, please. That is devastating.
Starting point is 00:20:10 ALICE Yeah. Real James Bond is horrible. But so, Statham- RILEY Oh, that does go into our pantheon of fucked up Bond drinks. They always have to have one, don't they? ALICE True! Yeah, that is true. RILEY That's his unique fucked Bond drink.
Starting point is 00:20:24 ALICE Camparian soda, no ice. RILEY Camparian soda, room temperature. have to have one don't they? Yeah that is true. That's his unique fucked bond drink. Campari and soda, room temperature. I enjoy Campari and soda, especially when it's served at the correct 25 degrees celsius. Awful, awful. So Statham is like, me and my boys have been doing a bit of skullduggery before, but we're not like bank robbers, we're not thieves, right? We're just likely lads. Absolutely. Why do you come to us with this? And she has the plan pretty much ready made. Oh yeah, she's locked in, she's like, okay, I'm dating a guy who's like, works for a security company and he's installing new alarms in the Lloyd Bank safety deposit box because the trains have been setting them off, so they've been turned off.
Starting point is 00:21:12 ALICE Mmhm. And she's like, wouldn't it, you know, he says to me, wouldn't it be funny if half the villains in London knew about that? And I go, well I grew up with most of them to myself. RILEY Exactly. So that's a kind of plausible thing, and Statham's like, I'll think about it. Goes to leave, and then his Statham senses tingle, and he goes and looks back in the door and he sees Martine at the bar with Tim Bond and his horrible drink, and goes, huh, that's interesting.
Starting point is 00:21:43 Interesting. So, we now cut back to Michael X. Yeah, this, yes. So the woman that we saw in the lift at MI6 is at a dinner party, she's got kind of like a hippie thing going on, as you see with the, like, bracelet. Peace and love stuff, yeah. She's at like a woke North London liberal dinner party that also has two black nationalists at it.
Starting point is 00:22:10 Yes. I guess, I don't know if that happened or not. Sure. Maybe it did, cause she's a real person, and her relationship to these people is real. So maybe, I don't know. But either way, she is there flirting with a fellow by the name of- this is a great- Hakeem Jamal.
Starting point is 00:22:30 This is a great radio. By the name of Hakeem, who has written a book about the, just the Black experience and things like this. Yes. In the US specifically. And she is down bad for Hakeem, right? And what the movie does not do is thread that needle, because the way it's filmed, it really looks as if he uses an inherent sexuality to dick hypnotize her. Which he can't do. NARESH It's not communicated clearly that she's the one chasing him in this instance. Which we know to be the case, but yeah, no,
Starting point is 00:23:05 it really comes across badly. ALICE The depiction is not good. But so, they hook up together, and we know that she works for British intelligence undercover. RILEY Yeah. Finding a damn name, eh. ALICE Gayle Benson, it. ALICE Gale Benson. Gale Benson, yeah. ALICE Also a real person, not as far as anyone knows actually an agent or an officer of British intelligence. That's-. ZACH This is conjecture, certainly.
Starting point is 00:23:34 Which will be- like, it is a little-. ALICE Yes. ZACH So, in light of what happens to her later on, the conjecture is maybe very unfair. But we'll get into this. ALICE So, he goes to the stank do. maybe very unfair. But we'll get into this. So he goes to the stank do, Jason Statham does. With his boys. I love his boys. His boys are good. They're both guys I love to see. Yes! Absolutely!
Starting point is 00:23:54 Dave played by Daniel Mays. Daniel Mays from Ashes to Ashes! Yeah. Fantastic. Big fan. And Kevin played by Stephen Campbell Moore, who I've also seen in a few things, but I can't summon to mind. ALICE He was in the History Boys. STATHAM Of course he was, fuck. He was in... oh yeah, no, okay, I've seen it.
Starting point is 00:24:11 ALICE So they're at this other strip club with more tits. One of the extras who's like celebrating is pouring his drink over the stripper, and I'm like, don't do that. And so, Statham then pitches the job to his boys of like, well what if we knocked over a bank and they go, but we're not bank robbers? At which point- We stick to skullduggery only. Yeah, we're the skullduggery only gang, and he hits them with one of the most baffling pairs of sentences I've heard out of Jason Statham's mouth.
Starting point is 00:24:43 Let's go. Do you know how old Mozart was when he composed his first minuet? No. Five. Five. A fucking minuet. It's a fucking minuet! Mozart composed this fucking minuet. Five years old. In a cave with a box of scraps. Box of fucking scrap. What I need, I'm realizing now-
Starting point is 00:25:03 This is not a convincing argument to me. Urgently. More urgently than I've ever needed anything in my life is a remake of Amadeus with Jason Statham as Sally Eyre. Absolutely. Yeah. We can make this happen. I was fucking minuet shits all over mine. So he counsels them on the virtue of ambition, right, through the allegory of Mozart. It's weird as well because he's like, I'm fucked up. I'm a piece of shit, right? I'm the age that Jason Statham is in this movie, and I haven't accomplished- man, I'm
Starting point is 00:25:37 bald at like 20. Like I haven't accomplished what I want to accomplish. I haven't written shit in the way of minuets, and by minuets I mean robberies. Yeah, except crime. Except crime. So help me out with this. Yeah, and they go, alright, basically. So they pull in, by the way, Martijn hasn't told any of them about the photos, this is
Starting point is 00:26:02 just being pictured them as straight bank robbery. So they go and scout the bank, and this is a cute little scene because in many ways, they're kind of like the Mormon brothers in Ocean's Eleven. Yeah, right? They're just ribbing each other the whole time. Yeah, Dave and Kevin. Because the way that they're contriving to take photos of the outside of the bank is Kevin, who is a photographer, taking photos of Dave, and it sort of emerges in the course of this that Dave has done, like, porn films before, and they are fucking with each other constantly about this for the rest of the scene.
Starting point is 00:26:38 And also, kind of, most of the movie. Yeah, they run into a bloke called Lou Vogel. David Suchet? The porn king. Fantastic. In this movie. What are you doing? You were Poirot for like twenty years, did you need an extension to your house?
Starting point is 00:26:54 Like what? Now he's Lou Vogel the porn king. He is. And he catches these guys taking the photos outside. He like stops and looks at Dave for a second and goes, are you in movies or something? And Dave's like, yeah mate, I'm in some of yours. Dirty immediately goes, huh, and gets in the car. Yeah, he clocks every single one of them on the way out from opening his safety deposit box in the same bank. So, he knows that they're there.
Starting point is 00:27:22 Where he has gone because he's just had a fucking knock from some corrupt cops who have come around- We're fucking up the scene order here so badly. Yes, but we can drive this to home. He's there because he's dropping off a perfect item to construct. This is something you want to have around and about you is your crimes ledger. Oh yeah, of course. So he gets some corrupt coppers come by and goes, I hear you're doing a different kind have around and about you is your crimes ledger. ALICE Oh yeah, of course. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:45 M-hm. G- So he gets some corrupt coppers come by and goes, I hear you're doing a different kind of business right now, not important. Give us a different kind of money, because your take has gone up. So he gives them a little bit of money, and then as they leave he writes down who they were and how much money he gave them, in a little notebook. ALICE This is great. This is definitely insurance, and the corrupt police officers will be fine
Starting point is 00:28:07 with you doing this. ZOE Great fucking idea, dude. ALICE The reason why this happens and why I fucked up the order here is that the stag dude is at one of his clubs. Specifically it's a Danish themed strip club, which I don't know. ZOE Strip clubs were so popular you could just get like really like niche with the uh. Just eating like an open faced rye bread sandwich off a strip, like I don't understand what the-
Starting point is 00:28:32 Oh great, it's the season's first herring. Cool. You don't want to go to the strip club on herring night, but you don't want to go to the strip club the morning after herring night. Just getting a private dance at the Danish strip club and we just go and build a Lego together? Actually that sounds fucking sick. I might pay the cover charge for that.
Starting point is 00:28:53 It's not a strip club, that's like a parallel play sensory hour. Do you want to go and build a Lego set with the most beautiful woman you've ever seen? Yeah, sure. Obviously yes. So, but yeah, they have that scene at the club, and then- Yeah, so the cops come around to be like, I hear you've opened up a sort of sensory hour for people to build Lego here, you need to give us a quarter of that take as well. And he's like, fine, fine. So he goes to drop his ledger off.
Starting point is 00:29:18 He's breaking off a couple of the Lego hundred dollar bills from a Westin thing. And then the ones that you use to break apart the bricks. These will go on the street, these are worth more than gold, these. Then they have the wedding off screen and we go to the wedding reception. This already helped me out, mate, my son's back at home, he's got two flat three by two blocks stuck together. He's got fucked off his nails, all of them. Alright, okay, we're done. The Dirty Cops, because they do illegal Lego belts.
Starting point is 00:29:53 Okay, alright, yes. Yes! Definitely. But he goes to put his fucking ledger of all the crimes they're doing in his safety deposit box box and he clocks everyone on the way out. Beautiful. ALICE Then we go to the wedding reception, and Kevin is doing the photos, he's got like a lovely TLR, like, with an off camera flash. And I'm like, mmhmm. And he, like, his, um, Jason Statham's wife is there! Keely Hawes! Woman I love to see!
Starting point is 00:30:26 I fucking love to see! Woman, to be honest, I have had a crush on since I was really young and she was in Spooks, but she also voiced Lara Croft in, like, the not most recent but most recent but one Tomb Raiders. Sick. Yeah. And she was in Ashes to Ashes. She's great. Fantastic. She's his wife. Yeah. She's good in this, uh, Wendy Leather she's his wife. Yeah. Um, she's, she's good in this, uh, Wendy leather, Wendy. I forgot. I forgot. Yeah. It is in marriages typically. You can't be named that. You can't
Starting point is 00:30:59 be named Wendy leather. Wendy leather. And you aren't a sex worker, you're just a normal broad. SICK. ALICE Just being a housewife called, like, Lux Interior. D'you remember that tweet I did about, like, me being unable to work for MI6 because I would always choose a codename I thought was too sexy? ALICE Samantha Black, absolutely. D'yeah, yeah, yeah. Lucy Vesp, some shit like
Starting point is 00:31:25 that. Like, Wendy Leather is maybe a bit too weird for that, but it's definitely close to the joke, right? WILL But they're in love, and he's a family man, he's got two beautiful daughters. ALICE He's got kids! He's like, dancing with his daughter, and it's like, I can only love this guy so much, y'know? Like, this is really sweet. And while him and his wife are looking at each other, it's a wedding, so the music that's
Starting point is 00:31:50 playing is like, we're in love, and we're a family, and family is so important. And just say like, I get, yes, 100%. I know writers that use subtext, and they're all cowards. Oh, um, by the way, when we go in the vault for the safety deposit thing, I do want to note that the safety deposit guy looks like Mr. Incredible's boss. Oh, I wrote he looks like Rory Stewart myself, but he fucking does and all, he does- he looks exactly like- Not happy, Barb. So they get the gang together, and they get the gang together pretty briskly, right?
Starting point is 00:32:25 Because there's only two more members of the gang. There's Bambus, whose deal is that he's, like, Cypriot, he's Greek Cypriot, like Cev Cellios, weirdly. And is the guy who knows how to operate all of the machinery, the power tools and stuff. And then there's Guy, the Major, who is my favorite guy because he's stealing Valor, right? He's a con artist who, like, pretends to have been a military officer with very aristocratic bearing. Yeah, really good. They need him to pretend to be the proprietor of a, like, clothes shop
Starting point is 00:33:03 that's two doors down from the bank. ALICE Yeah, there's a real London moment here, because it's like, the clothes shop, the sack, or whatever, like bags, is like two doors down. The next one down, the one in between, is a chicken inn. RILEY It's a chicken inn, god. ALICE Jesus Christ. RILEY Like... RILEY Modernity sneaking in here, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:24 ALICE I'm almost glad in some ways that this movie is like a kind of real six, seven out of ten experience because, like, I don't think the rest of the world needs to know about British off-brand chicken shops. Like, I don't need anyone in, like, real movies to know what a Morley's is, you know? I disagree, fundamentally, but I get it. This is because I first encountered these as a young adult when I moved to London, so I imagine growing up in and around London you're more sick of them. But I was like, holy shit, I can get a fucking chicken burger on the way home from the school
Starting point is 00:33:57 I work at, sick! I'm like, alternately sick of them and protective of them. That's completely reasonable, yeah. It's for the same reason you can't ever have them in Bond, right? Like Bond can't ever be in Alaska Fried Chicken at 3 in the morning. Like, it's not like a part of Britain that I- Hang on, shit, what's the Bond voice? Oh god, sorry. I enjoy hot chicken sandwich, especially when shoved at the correct temperature.
Starting point is 00:34:25 That's the one I forgot the short of. I'll have another two meal, and a Pepsi. Chicken, not sturd. The deal is, they buy the shop in the major's name, they go into the basement of the shop, they tunnel under the chicken inn, right, Under the bank vault, whose alarms are turned off, and then they bust up through the floor and they loot the safety deposit boxes. You dig a tunnel from my basement to vault, right? Smart. Perfect plan.
Starting point is 00:34:59 Yeah. To be fair, chronologically, and by the time they explain this, they haven't recruited Bambus yet, so I have two sequential notes. One is, you just use your ancestral British tunnel digging knowledge that you got from the Great Escape, and then I cross that out and I write, sorry, the ancestral Greek knowledge, I guess. Yeah, they've got a Mr. Tunnels on deck. Like Big Dick Dave goes, like, I don't know anything about tunnels. And he's like, don't worry, I've got a tunnels expert.
Starting point is 00:35:27 Yeah, Bambas, Bambas my Greek tunnels guy. And I've got a posho as well. Yeah. And again, at this point I am fully in love with Jason Statham. Because like, it's the Roger Moore thing, I think. Of the two things I said, it's the Roger Moore thing, you know, I see an actor long enough and I start bonding. Yeah, like a baby bird.
Starting point is 00:35:46 ALICE Yeah. RILEY Oh, no. With James bonding? Alright. ALICE Before they start, Terry Leather goes to see Wendy Leather, his wife, and he's like, you should probably take the kids, go stay at your aunt's, and get out of town, and probably take the kids, go stay at your aunt's, and get out of town, and the reason why is, just in case... Just in case things turn to custard. Yep.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Sorry? Definitely. In case... Almost a bit of raspberry jam right there, yeah? Inexplicable. Just in case things turn to custard. Maybe like a nice sponge, in case things turn to custard. Maybe like a nice sponge in case things turn to, you know, some kind of... A bit of jam.
Starting point is 00:36:29 Beautiful, yeah. Oh, fantastic. It'd be splendid. Little lady thing. Too long in the Danish-themed strip club. Yeah, exactly. Bit of raspberry jam back there. Alright.
Starting point is 00:36:38 Alright. But he's like, listen, you need to get out of town because I'm gonna do something, and she's like, he goes, don't ask me what it is, because I don't want to lie to you. And she immediately is like, what is it? And he goes, ah, we're, don't worry about it. We're doing something that might be a problem. But it won't be, it'll be fine, don't worry about it. And she kind of warns him about this, but she does go, okay, yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:37:00 So we go back to the Danish themed strip club, at this point. Yes. So, we go back to the Danish themed strip club at this point. Because Michael X is gonna meet Lu Vogel, and he's like, you know what, you should get into drugs maybe. And Lu does not want to do this because his only drug is gooning. Yes, absolutely. He's like, I don't like perversion or degeneracy, I'm a strip club guy. And you're like, okay, interesting. Fine. Like, perversion or degeneracy, I'm a strip club guy. And you're like, okay, interesting.
Starting point is 00:37:25 Fine. ALICE Yeah. It's like, I don't want to harm the social fabric except in a horny way. Yeah. completely reasonable. ALICE Yeah. But so Michael brags to him, that like, oh, I've got this insurance, nobody can touch me.
Starting point is 00:37:42 And you see Lou just kind of file that one away for the moment. Because Michael is leaving for Trinidad pretty soon. M- Yes, he is. Oh yeah, we get a scene with MI something, where they're gonna go to Hakim's book launch. S- Yes, yeah. And Tim Bond is there. M- Tim Bond is there, and we get a little bit of establishing of relationships, like, relationships we're establishing here are. So here's the deal, right? Gail is there with Hakim, because they're together now.
Starting point is 00:38:14 And she introduces Hakim to her presumably racist, like, Tory MP dad. Yes. Who is very genteel to him, and very like, oh you should have to come over and meet Mrs. Whatever. But is like, obviously internally horrified. And she's like, now we're going to Trinidad. Yeah, and Hakeem is also like, oh by the way, I changed her name to Hale Kimga, which is like a mixture of both of the letters in our names. and you go, that seems possessive and creepy, and I'm not sure that's in there, I'm just gonna google that and that fucking happens.
Starting point is 00:38:48 Yeah, and that's real as well, yeah. It's real, it's real, yeah. I guess I'll just go fuck myself. It's good instincts that we're checking if these are real or not, though. Tim Bond is there, as well as Martine, and Martine says, sort of semi-jokingly, you're probably here spying on Black Power's insidious threat to the British state, which of course he is. And he goes, pff, yeah, sure, right. He's like, yeah, totally, totally, how's the bank job going, are you good on that? And to which, baffling line, she says, oh yeah, it's all good,
Starting point is 00:39:25 however, I am aware of the stakes. I know if this stuff's up I'm in poo poo land. What? Yeah, I also wrote, I know if this stuff's up I'm in poo poo land. Which is really funny, because in the previous scene we've seen M directly say to Bond, oh if this all goes tits up, kill her on the spot. Which is, which I guess is what she's referring to, but what a way to refer to it. Does count as poo-poo land, yes. I guess that's poo-poo land, like... What rating was this film that they, like... Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:39:54 So the gang get together in a, like an old Ford Transit, fully sick, as a builders crew. It's a 15. So they get one fuck. Okay, but in surely 15 you get like, unlimited shits, right? Like you can say like, I'm in, like, the shit, I'm in the world of shit. Surely you can say I'm in the shit. A land of shit? Surely she would?
Starting point is 00:40:16 I don't know. Maybe they're in like a high society party and she doesn't wanna swear or something, but like... I guess so. Oh, get a life. Yeah. So, uh, they, they get into the shop, they pull up the horrible 60s lino floor. Yeah. The two, like, Mormon blowjob brothers are fucking with each other, because they're on
Starting point is 00:40:34 walkie talkies with each other in the same room, and I'm like, I love these guys. I hope nothing bad ever happens to them. It's good gear, one of them's just, one of them's like, where are we gonna put, if we thought about where we're gonna put the soil that comes out of here, everyone's like, yeah we're gonna dig a hole in the other side of the room and put it in there. Pretty good. You're kind of like, that seems like bad script writing, and then you Google it and you go,
Starting point is 00:40:57 oh yeah, that's just what they fucking did. Yeah, they did just put a pile of it in the corner of the room. They really were just ready to be gone, basically, they were not in any way hiding this. And while they're digging, there is a knock at the door from upstairs. And it's the damn... It's the roses. It's the boys in blue. ALICE It's the damn police. ALICE One cop, who just fully barges in, because fuck a warrant, it's 1970. RILEY It just goes, you're working late, aren't you? And our pochot is just like, yeah yeah yeah, round the clock, you know, it is.
Starting point is 00:41:29 We've had a complaint from the chicken shop next door that, are you using a jackhammer right now? And they're like- ALICE And Statham obviously using a jackhammer sticks his head around the door, is like, alright go. RILEY Mr. Jackhammer is like, we might be. I'll try to keep it down, which isn't a safe thing to say about using a jackhammer, and then they don't. ALICE Yeah, they just fully do not. You see it like
Starting point is 00:41:49 rattling cups and stuff in the chicken inn. And then, fully taking the piss, one of them orders chicken and chips to be delivered to next door's basement. ZACH Fantastic. ALICE It's a great bit. ZACH Yeah, which, it's Big Dick Dave as well, which the Big Dick is canonical, by the way, it's textual. Described as, I think it's like a meat dagger at one point? Like a flesh dagger? Horrifying.
Starting point is 00:42:16 But after two of these knocks on the door, they're like, we need a lookout. Specifically, we know one other person. It's gotta be Eddie who just got married. Yeah. He's gonna wanna be in on this, and one of the lads is like, we're not cutting him in on the take, obviously. So Terry's like, fine. I'll just give him the cars. Oh yeah, yeah, of course, yeah. Just give him the cars, cause I'm not gonna need him after this, I'll just get out of town, he can have Terry Leather Motors." So, okay. ALICE Instead of like, one fifth of a massive bank
Starting point is 00:42:49 robbery, do you want my failing business? RILEY Instead of a fifth of four million bucks in like 1970s pounds, would you like a failing business? ALICE And the lease on a railway, Arch. Which to be fair, if you still have that now, it's worth about the same as the proceeds of the bank robbery. Like, you just gotta hold onto that shit. So, they get him in, they put him on the roof of a building across the street with a walkie
Starting point is 00:43:16 talkie. And immediately they're fucking up in terms of radio procedures. He's got no discipline at all, yeah. No, no no, he's like, no names Eddie, oh sorry Dave. It's all shit like that. He immediately gets on the radio and is just like, I'm gonna read all the signs in the parking lot now. We're...
Starting point is 00:43:35 Like, everyone's just like, message discipline, brother, message. And he doesn't, does not stick to it. But they've just got a bored guy on the roof nearby with a walkie talkie who is occasionally just saying something on the radio that he doesn't need to. So at this point, Martine goes out to get everybody's cigarettes. Her order at the pub is a beautiful time capsule, two packets of Rothmans, two of senior service, and eight packets of crisps. Take me back. But really,
Starting point is 00:44:06 this is a pretext to meet with Tim Bond, who is there in the pub. TRO 1.25 degree Campari and soda, please. ALICE Oh. TRO And he's there and they have a very brief touch face before Jason Statham walks in. ALICE The Statham sensors, again. TRO They're tinglin'. Catches the two of them together. ALICE You can always walk off a bank job to go and
Starting point is 00:44:28 get a pint. That's always allowed. RILEY Absolutely. ALICE And so he doesn't, like, say anything, he catches them together kind of after the fact, but he knows that something is up. RILEY Yeah, he's seen them together twice, but they only know that he's seen them together once, so they're not that suspicious, but he is quite at this point. And she goes, you following me? Which is an extreme tell. And he's like,
Starting point is 00:44:49 no, I'm just here to get a pint. Should I be? So there's also two MI5 guys watching the chicken shop from a car, one of them has a very thick Welsh accent, will not come up until later. Very good. So Tim Bond then goes to see Gail, to touch base with her, because he's running two things at once, I guess, and he's like, how's it going with Hakeem Jamal? And I kind of like this bit, right, because she does do a kind of bit of woman moment, uh, don't get emotionally involved, what am I like? But she does call him on being a hypocrite about this in a kind of way that indicts the whole of Bond, where it's like, oh, okay, so when I, a female agent of the British government,
Starting point is 00:45:36 want to like, sort of de facto sexually assault someone by- Yeah, I want to do spy cop shit. Yeah, when a woman does it, that's like, bad, right? And it's like, I think it's bad for someone of any gender to do spy cop shit, but you make a good point, it is misogynistic and it is a double standard. It absolutely, it really does show off the way that the Bond series treats this as sort of like conquest. It's hard, it doesn't even think of it as female empowerment anyway.
Starting point is 00:46:04 But, so yeah, and then she's like, I also, even think of it as female empowerment anyway. So yeah, and then she's like, I also hate his ideology as well, she does just quickly rattle that off as well. Which again, I don't know how kind that is to put in the mouth of her. ALICE No, given the historical person, we'll talk about why that's weird. But she's like, I'm gonna go to Trinidad with Hakeem and Michael. Meanwhile the boys are digging. And we get an actual jump scare in the crime movie, which, uh, you don't get the rough of. They fall through, like, Statham
Starting point is 00:46:37 falls through the floor of the tunnel into a plague pit. Full of skeletons. Yeah, they're like, looking around, he refers to them as skinheads as well, which is like... No, mate. I dunno, that's bone, I reckon. Really, really funny to sort of like, die of plague and then, like, 400 years later get called a skinhead. You're Your lingering spirit's just like, what? Guy's through the 1640s, no idea what the fuck he's talking about. So if you just clear these useless plague skeletons out of the way, you can get straight onto the bank, easy. Perfect. And you get a bit where they actually do dig up, stupid. Yeah, straight up. They're using a thermal lance, which...
Starting point is 00:47:23 This is cool. Sick, yeah. That's why Bambus is there, he's like the specialist for it. Yeah. They're on the radio like, how's the bank robbery going over? The bank robbery's going great, over. And they run into one of the great features of British life. I love this. The humble nerd.
Starting point is 00:47:41 Ah, the beautiful nerd. See, this is what they were doing back in a better time, before blockchains, before bitcoins. You can still do this. They were ham radio operators. There still are, and this episode is a salute to every ham radio operator in our listener base. Because there is a guy in a bedsit with a big radio who is just like fucking
Starting point is 00:48:07 around trying to listen out for different things, and they just have walkie talkies which are just on an open band, and he's just like, hm, why are there a bunch of guys talking about blagging and thermic lances and bank robberies? ALICE Why are they on the radio being like, how's it going, oh it's great, we're just getting into the bank now. And so he immediately, instantly calls the police. ALICE Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:32 And another beautiful patriotic moment. The police, unseen, go, yeah, fuck off. RILEY Shut up. The first... we're gonna see later where he's talking to a different group of cops and he goes, thank god, I phoned four precincts before you guys. I think both ends of that make me feel deeply patriotic, right? Someone who is, A, so committed to snitching that he calls five police stations, and B, like, five desk sergeants who are like, yeah, can't fool the other one, mate, it's got bells on.
Starting point is 00:49:04 Oh, you're listening to some guys on the radio being like, I'm robbing a bank right now, and you wanted us to know about it, do you? Yeah, right, cunt. To my job, you're having a laugh. Nice fucking try. But he accidentally happens across a good cop, quote unquote, or at least a non-on-the-take cop. Which we were- Correct. And his name is, scrolling through the thing, Roy Given.
Starting point is 00:49:30 Detective Sergeant Roy Given. And so, the boys are wearing, like, they're going into the bank, they're wearing like, fucking boiler suits, and my note here says, you don't see Frank Transporter wearing a balaclava this wrong because Statham is wearing a balaclava with the eye hole stretched out to like his entire face and I'm like yes like that's right mate that's right this is this kind of silly bullshit we do in this country so they decide to leave it overnight yeah they. They all sleep in there. Yeah! They're like, we'll rob the bank first thing in the morning and we'll have a kip. This is Guy Fawkes' mistake as well.
Starting point is 00:50:10 Yeah. So, Martine, of course, sneaks in to try and see if she can get the specific box that she knows the photos are in. And you get a second jump scare, as she says. You scared the piss out of me. Because Statham appears. So, alright, so you have to say you're in poo poo land, but you can say piss. Double standard for different expressions.
Starting point is 00:50:37 Scared the poo poo out of me. You scared the poo poo out of me. I believe in that, you scared the poo poo out of me. And she attempts to distract him with womanly wiles. She does. Yeah. Actually, I'm not going to put it on her. He gives in her. He does. Because here's the thing. He's like, I can't sleep because I've been thinking about
Starting point is 00:50:55 different ways to wear a balaclava. Yeah. I'm really coming up with some crazy shit. Like, maybe on the back of me. Yeah. What if the eye hole was where I put my neck in and I had a sort of like a tunnel of fabric coming off of my face. It's like Jason states tech wear wearing a balaclava the wrongest way you possibly can relate pictures on like if you buy a snood and it says you can wear this in so many ways and it's like clearly just like making some shit up by the last couple. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:28 No one's ever fucking worn a balaclava like this, man. So she relies on nostalgia because he's suspicious and he asks like why did you give us this job instead of real robbers? And she goes, old times sake. Yeah. We get some lore here, which is that her old times sake is not with Terry. It's with Kevin, the photographs guy, except she says, no, that's not what happened. Right. That what happened is I had what I had with Kevin was- I love cockney phrases. Here we go. In her phrasing. Four Chinese meals and a roll in the hay.
Starting point is 00:52:09 Now, first of all, why is that Baldur's Gate narrator voice? Four Chinese meals and a roll in the hay, and a pack of sergeants and eight crisps, and a room temperature Lucazette. Land of hope and glory. LIAM What?! FOUR CHINESE MEALS IN A ROLL IN THE HAYE ALICE Is an insane amount of Chinese meals sequential. LIAM I went on four dates and they were all to the Chinese place. ALICE It's like, where should we go on our third or fourth date?
Starting point is 00:52:45 Oh, this is so me, dude. This is like, well, the Chinese shop has worked the last two times. I already don't know why I need to think about this any further than that. You like the Chinese shop? I don't know. What's the complaint? My question is, is it the same Chinese? Is this motherfucker taking to a tour of the cuisines of China?
Starting point is 00:53:07 They don't mention that was on in one night. It was on one of Kev's famous Chinese meal centers. What if he's the most sensitive white boy 1971 had ever invented and he's like, no, you got to come to this one because it's like Fujianese, right? There were different cuisines! You fucking Philistine! Yeah, he would never frame it as four Chinese meals, that's the most racist shit I've ever... First of all love, that was Hunanese, alright, and that was Sichuan. They are very different cuisines. First of all, that was the Malar flavor profile. There's at least three more
Starting point is 00:53:47 we could have gone just for Szechuan. How dare you? All right, I'm trying to share my soul with you right now. Your British chauvinism is showing once again. ALICE It is the most interesting man in this movie, because he has a commitment to photography. We seem to use a little like analog light meter. ALICE We do! We do! ALICE Analog photography, and like particularly granular interrogations of like Chinese cuisines. ZOE Oh my god. Fantastic.
Starting point is 00:54:22 ALICE She fumbled him. ZOE She fumbled him. ALICE She fumbled him. ZOE But anyway, to distract Jason Statham, she parts the little tunnel of fabric coming off of his balaclava from his mouth, and leans in for a kiss, and he gives in, and he goes for it, and I'm like, no! Your wife! Don't cheat on your wife! Don't cheat on Keely Hawes, you dick!
Starting point is 00:54:40 She was fantastic in Spooks! Okay. But... Fuck. Jesus Christ. Yeah, and her idea of fucking hawk cuisine, she's getting a room temperature soda. It's just unbelievable. What is the charge?
Starting point is 00:54:56 Eating a meal? Four succulent Chinese meals? Four consecutive succulent Chinese meals? Getting arrested outside each and every one of you. Each time they just drop me off at the next one. Sorry, I'm so sorry. Getting picked up outside of a Chinese restaurant and like brought into the back of a met van and just being like tumbling out of the back of a Chinese restaurant and like, pour into the back of a met van and just be
Starting point is 00:55:25 like tumbling out of the back of it as it goes past a second Chinese restaurant with an I've met the mess sticker on me just immediately going into that. I've been like, fine, all right, well, at the very least I'm going to make the best out of a bad situation. I've been meaning to see what Heyan cuisine is like, youknow? Like, let's see what this is- ALICE LAUGHS ALICE LAUGHS ALICE Thank you, thank you to the Metropolitan Police Service for the guided tour. ALICE LAUGHS ALICE LAUGHS ALICE LAUGHS
Starting point is 00:56:03 ALICE LAUGHS So, they, I assume, fuck in the vault, but we don't know. Yeah, probably. Right. Meanwhile, the next morning, Roy Given is like, with this ham radio guy, and he's like, right, here's what we do. We do a genuinely kind of clever gambit. This is so smart, yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:22 This is genius. We don't know what bank they're in, they haven't said anything geographically identifying on the radio, so what we do is we get an ambulance to drive up to each bank in whatever radius the signal's in, and then we wait to see which one it's outside when the guy goes, hey there's an ambulance just pulled up outside. Genuinely smart police work here. Mmhmm. Now, however...
Starting point is 00:56:48 Fortunately Eddie is just like three minutes more away from just reading out the signs that he can see, so it's not too much of a problem. It's kind of tense, really. Yeah, genuinely. It's going around the banks, but also a bunch of cops pull up, and there's a shot of a police jaguar back when that used to be a thing, heaving around a corner at a 40 degree body roll to park on the pavement, and I'm like, take me back! There's like four different kinds of silly British police car parked outside this bank, and they're
Starting point is 00:57:25 all different. ALICE The stupid cars in this movie are really good. We get some wonderful stupid little vans as well. Just fantastic. Good of an internet movie car database, and just look up the bank job. ALICE And the manager is like, they're in the vault and they're panicking because Eddie the lookout has told them that the manager's gone in, the manager goes to the outside of the vault and is like, well it looks fine and it's on a time lock so I can't open it until tomorrow
Starting point is 00:57:53 anyway. And all the cops go, I don't care anyway. Yeah, cause they're just like, checking on this, in their mind they've got like a hundred other banks to check anyway, so whatever. And at that point they start opening boxes in the vault, using miscellaneous tools on boxes to get at everyone's Nazi documents from inside man. They find the photos! They find the photos of Princess Margaret! ZACH Yeah, she calls over Big Dick Dave to come
Starting point is 00:58:20 and break it off specifically, and she justifies it by saying, oh this is my lucky number or something. So Statham obviously immediately walks over and takes whatever's in there and has a little look. And we get the first of what everyone in this movie wants to do, which is take the photos fully out and look at them and then put them back in. There's no, like, glancing in, it's always, always completely out of there. See the tits every time. Also they find a lot of jewels and gold and all the rest of this shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, they're genuinely just yelling,
Starting point is 00:58:51 CASH! GOLD BARS! DIAMONDS! in the scene, like, in the background. They open up a couple of bottles of champagne that they find, and I'm like, legend. Legend. Yeah, sick.
Starting point is 00:59:03 Have fun, honestly. Yeah, absolutely. But the ambulance rolls up, and Eddie,GENDS. Have fun, honestly. Yeah, absolutely. But the ambulance rolls up, and Eddie, fortunately, is a dead shit and has accidentally dropped the fucking walkie talkie off the roof. Yeah, he sees the ambulance pop up and just like, fumbles the walkie talkie, yeah. Which is what saves them, basically. Because they're waiting for them to say, oh, there's an ambulance outside. And when they don't, they move the ambulance on. Can't be that bad. Bam.
Starting point is 00:59:29 ALICE So they're about to leave, and you think, okay, well they're gonna get back into the same van that they came in on. We see that van leave, and the Welsh MI5 guys pull that van over, and there's nobody in it. Well, I guess, it's not like a Wormo, there's a guy in it, well I guess it's not like a wall, there's a guy in it. ALICE & TROY Oh fuck! ALICE & TROY Ghost van! ALICE & TROY They immediately set fire to it as they should. ALICE & TROY Of course, yeah. There's a guy who's clearly
Starting point is 00:59:55 been paid off to take it out of the thing and get pulled over. Because in what is kind of bullshit but whatever, Statham is like now so suspicious. His suspicion meter is now so high that he's like, I got us a different van so that we could slip out the back. Which they do with all the money and everybody's very happy. They're like, uh, the majors, like, I think I'll promote myself to Colonel, which base might do that too. Yeah. Well, what they're going to do with the money. And yeah, so they also suggest, why don't you go and get your dick shortened in Copenhagen, which is a funny thing to say to anyone, in any circumstances.
Starting point is 01:00:32 Yeah. Kev's in there going like, I've got a perfect idea for how to celebrate this one, let's- why don't we go on another one of my classic Chinese cuisine crawls? Sichuan peppercorns, mate. Everyone in there's like, oh, I don't wanna go on a fucking Chinese bar crawl again, mate. They're sick of his shit. Just like, feeding a lychee to a white Englishman in 1970 would kill them. They're not prepared for that at all, they've got no idea.
Starting point is 01:01:04 I'm thinking a lot about Copenhagen dick shortening surgery as well, because like... Really funny. I'm not sure if that's... Was that in the cultural valence or what? That's elusive to, like, I don't know, some The Danish Girl type shit? Or like, is it an early GRS joke? I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:01:21 Like, they were only suggesting taking a couple of inches off of it, so like... Maybe this is just an old thing you can do in Copenhagen. I guess if you've had your dick shortened in Copenhagen, right then. But even when Big Dick Dave fires back and goes, yeah yeah, and I'll donate them to you, pretty good. Good gear. Pretty good. Pretty good.
Starting point is 01:01:39 By the way, Big Dick Dave is wearing a stolen tiara at this point. This is cunt. Sick. The boys are having fun. Mmhm. Mmhm. Yeah, it's good. This is a healthy, like, masculine set of role models, probably. You can get into, like, any number of things. You can get into, like, wearing tiaras, having a massive penis. The cuisines of China. Stealing valour. Stealing valour. Being Greek Cypriot, I guess.
Starting point is 01:02:03 Yeah. So, Bambus and the now Colonel, I guess, leave. Yeah, yeah, they go, I'm done, cheers, goodbye, and they leave. And at this point then we have to talk about the photos. Kev, the most emotionally intelligent of the group, goes like, alright, what's the problem here? You two been staring daggers at each other all day after we got out of there. What's up? What Statham has to explain, we have these photos of Princess Margaret now, problem here. You two have been staring daggers at each other all day after we got out of there. What's up? ALICE And Statham has to explain, we have these photos of Princess Margaret now, she has clearly been told to do this, I did use by the government, and therefore we are in
Starting point is 01:02:34 poo-poo land. RILEY We are fucked as hell right now, yeah. ALICE Yeah. RILEY We're fucked directly into poo-poo land. RILEY We've totally been fucked into a cocked hat. ALICE Yes. RILEY And we're in poo-poo land as well, just so I don't insult the injury. They sort of, like, agree to stick together with the proceeds because they think that
Starting point is 01:02:52 Martine is going to fuck them over. Apart from Big Dick Dave, who says fuck all of this, I guess we can't trust each other anymore, I'm going to my mum's house, which is the best thing to do immediately after committing the heist of the century. ALICE Is it a crime to love your mum? No it's not. RILEY It's not, but it will get you immediately captured.
Starting point is 01:03:13 ALICE Yeah. Um, so they discover the robbery, and we get some, not for the first time in the movie, some like, police or like, warrant card dick measuring. Because as well as Given, who is working the robbery, the Regional Crime Squad show up, and these are the cops that we've seen take the corrupt proceeds of the Danish strip club. If the name the Regional Crime Squad is familiar to you it's because it was one of the most corrupt organizations in British policing, and was the thing that was eventually kind of brought down by Operation Motorman, not this.
Starting point is 01:03:48 M- Fascinating. Oh yeah, because I'm gonna lie about this at the end. L- Yeah, yeah, yeah. What they did is, it's an interesting story, they brought in a bunch of rural cops who had no corrupt connections in London, in order to fuck over the corrupt London cops, and it did work. M- We sent a thousand purebred west country bastards directly into London to route out the corrupt cops. ALICE Yes. RILEY Yes!
Starting point is 01:04:12 ALICE A moment of regional patriotism there. RILEY Yes! That's the boys. ALICE So, these are of course our Lou's guys, right? They're his cops. And so he is looking to them to sort of like, find out about his ledger because he wants it back. Yes. It's gone, basically. It's obviously been one of the things that's been taken.
Starting point is 01:04:34 They don't know they have it yet, but he is extremely aware that they have it. Yeah. Meanwhile we get some stuff in Trinidad where Gail is spying and either Hakeem or Michael have to be scary and predatory towards her. This is just building up threats basically, because she's looking for copies of the photos or negatives or whatever, and you have a lot of shots of them kind of advancing towards her in a way that I'm not thrilled about. Yes, no I'm not. So Dave Schilling and his massive penis get captured immediately, because he says he loves his mum's! RILEY He loves his mum too much.
Starting point is 01:05:07 Yeah, just gets picked up straight away, immediately. Because obviously Vogel is like, I know exactly who one of the guys is, because it's someone I know and he was taking photographs outside. ALICE Yeah, I saw him and I recognized him. RILEY Yeah, it's someone who's literally known to me. They're playing one of his fucking pornos on the wall to the corrupt cops, by the way. Both the brawls in it are like, wow, I've never seen anything like this.
Starting point is 01:05:29 Again, we don't see it. What are we doing here? It's bullshit. Full hog. So they take him into the torture basement, and they sandblast him. They do, yeah, they torture my boy. They sandblast the shit out of this guy, until he tells them everything, of course. So they go to Martin's house, where the MI5 guys also are, and we get another warrant card dick measuring
Starting point is 01:05:51 contest. Yes. Because the corrupt cops are like, this is our jurisdiction, and immediately the MI5 or 6 or 7 guys just pull out their own warrant cards and go, uno reverse, motherfucker. Which has gotta be the greatest feeling in the entire world. Oh, satisfying. Getting to counter pull the badge. Like, actually, motherfucker, you get out. Yeah, no question. No question. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:13 And they do. I would love to. But the other thing is that there's something about British crime movies, specifically. We'll do this when we talk about Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels, right, or Snatch, that they have to be kind of very multipolar, and I'm not sure why, but it's always like, this one is different from a lot of the Guy Ritchie stuff in that it happens in the right order chronologically, and the robbery happens first, and then the kind of fucked plot between five different factions happens. But for some reason it's always like that. So, Bambus gets killed, he gets like fucking plastic bagged, the Major gets stabbed, the
Starting point is 01:06:50 Colonel, sorry. ALICE Damn. DARREN I can only hope that his stolen valor holds up to being buried with military honors. ALICE I believe so. I think he got the Purple Heart after the visit. DARREN Yeah, and they capture Eddie at work, at the shit car business that he was going to inherit, and everybody was gonna know where it was and who he was.
Starting point is 01:07:10 Yes. So. Can't put him in the shit here, that. Yeah, and he calls Terry. He's in the torture chair, having, like, seen what has been done to Big Dick Dave, who's had his, unfortunately, his Copenhagen penis reduction surgery done on the cheap. But he's put in the unenviable position of being on the phone with someone
Starting point is 01:07:32 who doesn't fully understand the gravity of the situation. Because Lou calls up Terry and goes, you've got my book, you little fuck. I'm going to kill your friend. Here he is on the phone, and Terry's yelling down the phone to Eddie, who is currently bound in a torture basement, tell that cunt I don't have it! Which is not what you wanna hear. No. No. From your friend. So he gives them an hour to find the ledger. Yes.
Starting point is 01:08:01 They find the ledger- He executes Big Dick Dave, unfortunately. The corrupt cop takes him down. He does kill Big Dick Dave, unfortunately. The corrupt cop takes him down. He does kill Big Dick Dave. Yeah. So they also have a couple of meetings with Tim Bond to be like, oh if we're gonna get out of this, you've gotta like, help us with this, and he's like, no. And then they're like, okay well as a fallback you've gotta give us immunity from prosecution and new identities. And they have to be delivered by a member of the royal family and Tim Bond's like, fine, fuck it, whatever, I don't care. Because they've found all the other photos as well.
Starting point is 01:08:29 The ones of the politicians and all of these guys. So they used that to blackmail. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're like, we will drip feed these to the press, and they give a photo of M getting his nips tickled or something. And when M sees this he goes, huh. ALICE So they find the ledger and they go through it, because it's a complete list of corrupt cops, and then they go, well, Roy Givett,
Starting point is 01:08:57 the guy who's named in the newspaper leading the investigation, isn't on that list, which leads to my funniest drop. So that means he's straight. Right transporter in the transporter one. Rule four, I don't work with straights. Yeah, so maybe we can give the thing to him. Yeah, yeah. Rule five, no they fabs. I mean he's straight. So they set up a meet to do all of this at Paddington station.
Starting point is 01:09:26 Yes. And he timed the two meetings at the same time in order to try and fuck things over. Yeah. Right. Lou calls him back and he's read what the document is and now knows that he actually has massive leverage over Lou instead. So Lou calls him up and he goes, guess what, here's a second Uno reverse for you motherfucker. If you don't bring me Eddie, every cunt gets this.
Starting point is 01:09:49 It's like, ah shit, so immediately Lugh is having the most stressful day at work all of a sudden. Like everything is going badly for him. ALICE By the way, Gail gets fucking murdered at this point. RILEY Yes. Gail gets called out into the garden of the property in Trinidad and told, got something to show you, and it's her own grave, and she gets fucking... ALICE I would hate to be shown that.
Starting point is 01:10:09 RILEY I would absolutely hate. You don't want, like, when they're jumping the like, we're gonna kill you on you, you don't want them to be doing a bit as well. You really don't want them to have fun. ALICE It's better if it's pre-dugged than if you're waiting for them to dig the grave, right? RILEY Or you'd have to dig your own. ALICE I don't want to dig a grave, I don't want
Starting point is 01:10:29 to wait around for somebody else to dig my grave, this is convenient. It's the Biffin Casino, you know, you have to dig another hole, you're there all fucking night. RILEY If you're making me dig my own grave, I'm gonna be getting like a couple of feet deep and be like, that's enough, right? Surely that's... ALICE I'm not gonna do a good job on the grave, I'll be honest with you.
Starting point is 01:10:44 RILEY I've dug like one foot deep and I'm like, how deep does a grave need to be? Can you perverse incentives? Yeah. Like I, I'm also probably going to try and like hit you with a shovel and then you have to shoot me and then dig the grave. Like it's really, cause I'm going to fuck up your order of operations. Cause I think that's like a good thing to do. I just do a really bad job of digging the grave. It's great, give me the fucking shovel. Give me the shovel. ALICE So, like, woman-fridged, and specifically white woman-fridged, which is like... RILEY Machete style as well, which I also thought was...
Starting point is 01:11:15 I thought that that was another racially threatening thing, but then I looked it up and I think that's also true. ALICE It's, yeah. Mmhmm. They have this meeting at Paddington station. Lord Mountbatten is there, and he notably, like, this guy opens his door and gets out and walks all the way around to open his door, and I write down, this elderly paedophile can't even open his own car door. What a state this country is in.
Starting point is 01:11:42 And a child lock on the... Don't we let these people rule... Just in case he sees a child. What a state this country is in. A child lock on that. Don't let these people rule. Fuck. Just in case he sees a child. Like the Hannibal Lecter, like, gurney. You cannot let Lord Mountbatten open his own car door, but he's gonna be gone. Yeah, it's like Kevin and Charlie's restaurants. Anytime he sees one, he just opens, tucks and rolls.
Starting point is 01:12:03 Oh god. sees what he just opens tux and oh my god, Maude Mountbatten combat rolling towards a child like one of the droids in episode one Star Wars. This is what he was doing when the IRA clapped him. Yeah, honestly Fair enough, I guess like I would still want to stop that too. Yeah Faster school and like the driver is just like fuck
Starting point is 01:12:43 Whips his head around It's gone. He's got Immediately call the Queen up and she's like, not again! Vip! I was gonna say, what was the sexual scandal? Tell me at least my younger sister's doing okay! No, Mom. No, I'm really sorry. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:59 So, uh, Lord Mountbatten has brought the, like, passports and stuff, he's got the new identities, Statham hands over the folder, which the lesson of this is like, the British deep state keeps its promises and you can trust them. Because the whole time, Martin's like, oh you're gonna fucking have us killed after this, and they just don't! They just don't! Lord Mountbatten shows up, hands him it, and they basically go, oh yeah, cheers, and then they just leave again. again, straight away.
Starting point is 01:13:26 My favorite hobby is leaving Luzent. Yeah. It's like a flying visit from Mountbatten. He just walked, he's barely even there. Yeah, I think he had one of those in Ireland as well. So at this point, Lou shows up with... He may have a ride by boat, but he left by airplane. The first British astronaut?
Starting point is 01:13:42 So technically, technically holds that honor alongside an alarmingly young boy. So Eddie, Lou, and the corrupt cop show up. STAPHER Yes. Yes. ALICE And Statham chases after them, and we get his one fight scene in this? STAPHER He gets to have a fight scene, yeah. ALICE Yeah. He throws a brick at a guy like Hitman Agent 47, which I appreciate.
Starting point is 01:14:07 He does drop the big portfolio full of like, passports and stuff in the course of doing this, but he beats everybody up. He beats everyone up, yeah. To be fair, Kevin Soushey, old man. Like... Yeah, he just sort of, he just beats up this old man, but like, good. Whatever. David Soushey, whose character has a kidney stone at this point.
Starting point is 01:14:25 RILEY Which they've reminded us of as well, like, he mentions that in the car, just to sort of put it back in our heads before... ALICE When we're breaking up a kidney stone is to just get in there and pulverize it, so I guess he's doing him a favor, but like... RILEY Yeah, healthy. Oh, by the way, in Trinidad, Tim Bond catches up with Michael X, and has him arrested by the Trinidadians so that it feels less racist, but it doesn't feel less racist. Finds the, uh, like, shallow grave at the back of the house, with the peace symbol, which is the most faux profound bullshit thing.
Starting point is 01:15:03 It's like, oh, James Bond, motivated by,, y'know, the love and spite for this fallen world, it's like, yeah, by the way, burn the house down. Yeah, yeah. I don't like this at all. Honestly offensive. Also, like, I have ADHD too, but like, forgetting to fill in my murder grave, I feel like that would be like task one for me. It's like, just there's a bit of dirt on there.
Starting point is 01:15:25 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the honest cops roll out back in London and arrest all the, like, Jason Statham, Eddie, the gang, Kevin as well, and MI6, they keep their promises, they're like, well hold on a sec, and I think actually you should let these guys go, because we did pinky swear. And one of them is the cop who's straight. Yeah, the straight cop comes over and goes, I don't see any robbers in here? To sort of... Yeah, corrupt cops get arrested.
Starting point is 01:15:57 And it all ends happily ever after. Yeah, and then Terry Leather is last seen scuba diving, cause you cannot stop Jason Statham from scuba diving or fishing. RILEY We've forgotten his wife subplot, there's only two scenes that we'd need to discuss to catch up here anyway, so like... ALICE Oh, yeah, yeah. He has a bit of a shouting match with his wife, Wendy Leather. RILEY At a sort of low point in the heist, he nips by his wife to visit her in the safe location, thereby making the location unsafe.
Starting point is 01:16:25 And goes, alright, so this has gone a bit more wrong than I thought it was going to, because they're playing the recording of him on the radio. So the kids hear it and go, mommy mommy, dad's on the radio! And it's him going like, I love robbing banks, is the bank robbed yet? ALICE Without Abby's influence, we lose a billion percent of the plot, because she takes comprehensive notes, but it also doesn't stop us from it, like we do not move on from the Fujianese cuisine tour bit. RILEY Yeah, what we gain in really letting us marinate in the Fujianese cuisine, quite like, I would say, Fujianese cuisine,
Starting point is 01:17:06 which, uh, beautiful. Absolutely. Shangdong, wonderful. So, she has a good shout at him, but they make it up. Yeah, she goes, did you cheat on me with the broad? I noticed that they said there was one woman, is that the woman that you obviously cheated on me with? And he goes, yeah, I did do that, yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:21 Which to be fair, I do like that he doesn't say no, I guess. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which to be fair, I do like that he doesn't say no, I guess. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Then he like, there's a later scene after the heist is all done and sorted when they're getting everyone, everyone's having a happy ending, all the hobbits back in the Shire type fucking scene. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All the hobbits back in ends, and she's like, goodbye forever. Goodbye forever, it was always you.
Starting point is 01:17:43 Yeah, yeah. Not a burned line, really. No. And she talks to his wife to smooth things over, which- Yeah, she goes, hey, I know that I cheated on- I know that he cheated on you with me, but that's kind of my fault. They don't know how to write this, so they just do it with no audible dialogue, which is a great cheat.
Starting point is 01:18:01 Good shout, yeah, good shout. Probably for the best, really. Yeah. So, Terry Leather ends up with a new identity, I hope he picked a great cheat. Good shout, yeah, good shout. Probably for the best, really. Yeah. So, so, so, Terry Leather ends up, like, with a new identity, I hope he picked a less silly name this time. I hope he didn't. Gary Wood. Like...
Starting point is 01:18:15 I hope his wife still got, like, a cool name. I hope she managed to keep Wendy Leather. Steve Latex. Steve Latex. It's just, like, italicized it. Barry PVC. I can think of more materials, not least because the first one was just an actual name. Like, it was just a completely normal, like, yeah, okay, so that's his happy ending, and
Starting point is 01:18:40 then we get some titles come up to inform us that yeah Michael X got hanged for murder in Trinidad because Trinidad still had the death penalty. What? So that's not a feel good. No. That's like, okay maybe he was a gangster but like what? Hanged? That's not good.
Starting point is 01:19:00 Like. In 75? I'm starting to think that maybe like, uh, that Martine had a point about the subversive, uh, like, Black Power thing, you know? Maybe? I think so. I think maybe so. Fucking hell.
Starting point is 01:19:15 Also, they note that his file is classified in the National Archives until 2054, so I guess we'll do a no-notes episode then. I guess when that drops, we'll see what that reveals. Specifically I hanged for murdering Gayle Benson, who as far as we know was not a spy. We know that she for sure was the daughter of a conservative MP who was murdered and buried in Trinidad and Tobago by reportedly on the orders of Michael X, but that, I mean again, that can't be proven because you killed the guy instead of getting evidence.
Starting point is 01:19:50 So yeah, I dunno. Pretty bad. Pretty, pretty, pretty bad. Pretty bad. Well, one thing I do wanna note, as a historical thing, I didn't find any really incriminating historical details out of this, but I did find one funny one. One of the real robbers was named Mickey Gervais. NICCOY That's good.
Starting point is 01:20:06 ALICE Wow. ALICE The Irish Ricky Gervais. NICCOY Crazy. And what would that sound like? ALICE Hard to say. NICCOY Hard to say. NICCOY Impossible to do, I think. ALICE I think so. Maybe you can do an impression at home, or like on the bus, or wherever you listen to this.
Starting point is 01:20:22 NICCOY Yeah. Pause theAST, and just workshop that out loud. Don't give anyone around you any context, just do Irish Ricky Gervais, you know? I thought my dumps were off limits. But we don't have to just speculate about what an Irish Ricky Gervais would sound like. Because we can determine that using a science-based system. It's called the... It's called the... It's called the Scum System. It says a smarm cultural insensitivity, unprovoked violence and lesogony. How smarmy is the bank job? BD It is entirely... It's another one of those movies that is... The writing is all phrases. It's all lines and it's all phrases. And I
Starting point is 01:21:07 don't know enough Cockney rhyming slang to know if any of them are real or not. I don't know if things turn to Custard. I don't know about these kind of things. ALICE I've never had something turn to Custard in my life, despite my best efforts to make Custard. WILL Yeah, I had nothing that I wasn't trying to turn into Custard. It's a hard thing to do by accident, I find. A lot of whisking. So, yeah, I dunno, it's like anti-Bond's mom. It does identify James
Starting point is 01:21:35 Bond as kind of a piece of shit, but who ultimately will come good. It really positions itself as like, do you ever that one old liberal poster that's like, the two classes are like a bicycle with two wheels, right? And so society, it's like, one big wheel of the working class and one small wheel of the ruling class is ridiculous, doesn't work. Likewise the other way around. So the good liberal solution is everybody chips in and we have two wheels of equal size and everybody does their bit. Well, this is kind of like, well James Bond might be a cunt, but like, the working class also have to contribute, and things will kind of turn out in the end, because you can trust the government. Even
Starting point is 01:22:19 when they're gonna murder a guy. Yeah, but like, you can trust the government is crazy. Especially when they've like, all- we've seen the M character be like, you can just go ahead and kill people if like, they're getting in the way here. Yeah. But for Smaam? I dunno. For Smaam? Ah Christ. What does that mean? Three? I could hear three, yeah. It's a kind of orthogonal kind of smarm to what we're used to. I always say orthogonal in one of these, and I'm not even sure if I'm using it correctly. Doesn't matter. Yeah, I use it to mean perpendicular quite a lot, I find. Which I know isn't what it
Starting point is 01:22:57 means. Uh, so let's say three. Cultural insensitivity, Jesus Christ. All the stuff I was gonna muck it up for happened. Like, I... RILEY Impossible to say, I think. I don't like the portrayal, I think that even if some of these things are true facts, the way that they are filmed and shown is racist. ALICE Yes, you don't... it is done in a way that kind of de facto discredits any kind of black liberation movement, particularly in Britain, by being like, oh these guys are by the way criminals. And in particular the way it treats
Starting point is 01:23:40 black men as a kind of creditor-atory agent of violence against white women specifically, even as you say, filming a historic instance of that is still, that's a choice, right? Yeah, definitely. It's a choice that's kind of politically gross. So other than that, I don't know, I mean... Yeah. Fucking... It just, yeah, I don't know. I don, to fucking... Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:24:06 It's kind of got like a once upon a time in Hollywood kind of feel to it, where it's just like, even like, there are some aspects of this that are true and real, but also, you didn't need to make them quite so front and center for your movie. This could have been a much more simple aspect. You didn't even really need to imply that she was, like, an agent, and therefore, like, kind of quietly justify her murder. ALICE Yeah. That Michael X had these incriminating photos is like, either fiction nor conjecture, right,
Starting point is 01:24:39 it was never something that was proven. And I dunno, I wanna go like a four or five here, I feel like. Yeah, I agree. Just because, like, I think the kind of... I'm trying to think, yeah, five. Five. Alright, let's go five. Unprovoked violence, I mean, Terry Leather has one fight scene, and it's pretty provoked,
Starting point is 01:25:01 I mean he does kick the shit out of a guy with a kidney stone but like... RILEY Terry Leather is not doing unprovoked violence. He's not doing it. ALICE He's simply not. Even if you're the most kind of, like, robbing someone's safety deposit box is violence, no. It's like one, zero. RILEY Yeah, zero, genuinely. Like, there is no unprovoked violence in this movie.
Starting point is 01:25:22 ALICE PG-13. RILEY That's crazy. ALICE Misogyny is gonna be pretty high though. RILEY Yeah. Pg-13. That's crazy. Misogyny is gonna be pretty high though. Yeah. They drop a cunt in this movie. They do. They fully do.
Starting point is 01:25:31 They say Poo Poo Land and then like an hour later someone calls a character a cunt. Maybe that was- calls a woman a cunt no less. You're like, yeah. This sex worker, she's the lass who ran the brothel that took all the photos. She's called the cunt. Yeah, maybe that's all horse trading is like, we'll take out a fuck and change it into, or take out a shit and change it to poo poo in exchange for one cunt. Jason Statham talking to the studio in tense negotiations, she's like, alright listen,
Starting point is 01:26:02 we'll say piss, okay, we can get one fuck in, and for the cunt we won't say shit. No shits at all. ALICE 11 hour negotiations to get the word cunt into the bank job. WILL Tenser than the fucking dog day afternoon negotiations. ALICE Oh my god. WILL Pizza's getting called in. ALICE The tits, everywhere. WILL There are tits in so many scenes, they're in
Starting point is 01:26:23 the background, they're just set dressing. Like, even at, fuck, even at Dave's funeral, they're like, oh, but he did have a big cock. Because there are two sex workers there, wearing stripper outfits, going, we're here because we knew him professionally. At the funeral, you're dressed like that? You wouldn't... Yeah. It's very misogynistic.
Starting point is 01:26:44 If anyone understands a dress code, it's very misogynistic. ALICE If anyone understands a dress code it's a sex worker, surely. But like, it's kind of... yeah, I... I kind of... I do like that Martine is more or less explicitly a sex worker, who does not spend most of the movie, or really any of the movie, doing sex work. This is like a sort of side hustle that gets out of hand, and she's like a relatively full character. I don't like that she's fucking competing with Wendy Leather for Terry Leather, but like... M- Yes. But still. S- I don't like that all the interstitial stuff of being like, where are we gonna do
Starting point is 01:27:20 this meeting? Oh, I guess it's gonna be in the Lego strip club. Or whatever. I'm not thrilled about that, I'm not thrilled about the tits in the opening sequence, it's... Yeah, I wanna put it in a similar place to the racism, I think. Maybe a four. Yeah, like a four. I would definitely go four. Yeah, 100%. Okay. Bam. Call it four. Right. Um, we're either of us writing that down, cause I realize we- I literally was not, like, fucking- Well I don't know what that total's up as, and I won't go back and check.
Starting point is 01:27:46 Oh, well, Christ, um- With- that's Abbey! That's Abbey's job! With- this is the thing, we don't- we don't- Fuck! We said three smarm. Yeah, I forgot the calculator on my fucking computer. Five cultural insensitivity, unprovoked violence was zero, and four misogyny. That puts it at twelve.
Starting point is 01:28:05 RILEY It does put it at twelve, yes. ALICE Which is damn good. RILEY That's really, really solid. I don't know how that competes with anything else. Wait, yes I do. ALICE You know what? Politics aside, endorse. Like, this is, it's a fun movie.
Starting point is 01:28:16 Like, I have a half hour gap in my notes, which is why it's so sketchy, because I'm just like, I don't know. I'm locked in. it demands nothing off me. Like- 12 is the same as Ocean's 8. Really? 12 is... Man, I really should have had a second one prepped before I started talking.
Starting point is 01:28:37 12, we haven't, the only ones below that in terms of Bond are our good Bonds, which is the eights on the Majesty's Secret Service, uh, for your eyes only, and view to a kill. Other than that, I think that's about right. This is a middling to good Bond movie, and you know what? It's not bad. It's like, you'll go, eh, a few times. Yeah. You'll go, eh, a few times.
Starting point is 01:29:04 Mostly you'll be thrilled to see Jason Statham if you're anything like me. Yeah. You'll go, ehh, a few times? Mostly you'll be thrilled to see Jason Statham if you're anything like me. Yeah. Any Kronsteins? Any good nights, maybe? Do you know, I really don't think so. I don't know, it's really... Yeah. No.
Starting point is 01:29:17 No. No? Okay. I don't think any of your ones either. I think that's just it. Yeah, that's it. And so we're back to robbing. we're back to robbery season, really. And I hope you enjoy.
Starting point is 01:29:30 Our next bonus episode, I think I've finagled this so that it's gonna be Shiver Baby. That's my understanding at this time. And then I'm going to, like, owe, I think you'd have a bonus episode pick. So look forward to that, subscribe to the Patreon, and we will see you next time for the next mainline one, which we don't know what it is yet, but it's gonna be something... It's gonna be something more traditionally heisty. It won't be a Fast and Furious, it will be something like the bank job. We will be pulling a pair of tights down over our heads and loading the sawn off shotgun
Starting point is 01:30:06 and knocking over a wages van. When I record the Jazz outro in about three weeks before posting this we will probably know so I'll just say in a second. Fingers crossed. Alright, well, thank you so much for joining us. Dev, thank you so much. It's been a pleasure as always. Yeah, for recording as always, and we will see you next time.
Starting point is 01:30:24 Bye everyone. Toodle-oo. Thanks Devon. As stated, I do now know three weeks later what the next episode is going to be, and it's going to be the Italian job, the original, with Milo Edwards. So that's going to be fucking fantastic. And we are recording that in a double bill with the remake of the Italian job also with Milo Edwards those are gonna be the next two free episodes that come out but if that is simply too long for you to wait the next bonus episode will be Shiver Baby and we're gonna have the journalist Sasha Baker on for that so
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