Kill James Bond! - S4E33: Fast and Furious

Episode Date: February 20, 2026

Welcome to the soft reboot. Dom Toretto and Brian 'The Carpedo' O'Conner separately go undercover in the same supercar-based cross-border drug smuggling ring. Dom, to avenge his shattered lavender mar...riage. Brian, for cop reasons due to he's in the FBI in this one for some reason. ----- Check out friend of the show Mattie's new book Simplicity here, or wherever fine graphic novels are sold! ----- FREE PALESTINE - With the ceasefire in full effect, the media has returned to ignoring the daily atrocities in Gaza. My friend Ahmed still needs to feed his family and afford medicine. Anything you can kick in would be hugely appreciated. https://chuffed.org/project/150817-please-help-ahmed-and-his-family-get-food-drink-and-medicine And these are some more general links you can support collective efforts with! -The Palestinian Communist Youth Union is doing a food and water effort, and is part of the official communist party of Palestine https://www.gofundme.com/f/to-preserve-whats-left-of-humanity-global-solidarity -Water is Life, a water distribution project in North Gaza affiliated with an Indigenous American organization and the Freedom Flotilla https://www.waterislifegaza.org/ -Vegetable Distribution Fund, which secured and delivers fresh veg, affiliated with Freedom Flotilla also https://www.instagram.com/linking/fundraiser?fundraiser_id=1102739514947848 ----- WEB DESIGN ALERT Tom Allen is a friend of the show (and the designer behind our website). If you need web design help, reach out to him here:  https://www.tomallen.media/ ----- Kill James Bond is hosted by November Kelly, Abigail Thorn, and Devon. You can find us at https://killjamesbond.com , as well as on our Bluesky and X.com the everything app account

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Starting point is 00:00:01 And welcome to another episode of Kill James Bond. I am November Kelly. I am joined as always by my friends Abigail Thorne and Devon. Hello, Frumbrum. What's up? And much... Sorry. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:00:29 No, it's fine. Finish your intro. No, no, just Calbonga. Calbunga. Calbunga. No. Much like Vin Diesel, they made me do another first and furious movie. And I'm not thrilled.
Starting point is 00:00:41 To your head. No. This one's all right? The bits with the cars aren't as good. And that's a shame, because that is the bit that it's most proud of. Yeah. Yeah. These four movies have been so wildly different from each other.
Starting point is 00:00:57 That's true. I loved the second one. They kind of lost me with the third one. This fourth one. Oh, God. I can see it taking shape. The fourth one, which is the sequel to the first one? Fast and Furious 2.4?
Starting point is 00:01:10 We're in the minds. We're in the minds of chronology because we are watching fast and furious bracket hits 2009. And before we really get into this, I just want to note that I, because I don't respect myself, I watched these on Amazon. And the Amazon description for this one is, quote, a four-wheeled felon teams up with the FBI and reignites a feud with an old enemy in Los Angeles, end quote. So what I've learned from this is that Vin Diesel had wheels, which I appreciate.
Starting point is 00:01:43 Yeah, it's not true for them. It's not all true, but Vin Diesel is not what happened. in the movie. Yeah. Yeah. No. But so we begin with something that is in the movie, which is the truck from Duel.
Starting point is 00:01:55 Yeah. Yes, the trucker. The trucker! The Carman's mortal enemy! Yeah, we open up with the beautiful trucker. The Don family is back. They're doing fucking truck heist again. Yes.
Starting point is 00:02:06 We're back with the Doms. This is bread and butter stuff to them. You know, they go out and they fight the truckers every day of their lives. They steal sex asses. Yes, they do. We're in the Dominican Republic. And Dominican Republic, Toreto and all of his crew are chasing down this big truck that's towing, like, can't, like, what do you call these containers?
Starting point is 00:02:26 Like, five containers in a row of petrol. Yeah. Tanks. Yeah. Tets. Petal tanks, like, gasoline tanks. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:33 It's so sad to see that the car trucker war has, like, spread over the borders now. It's far down as the Dominican Republic. And the thing is, you have to be a campus about this, you know? Like, it's not your job to condemn the immoder trucker. No. You know? No. Like, you can't, you can't sit there and say that we think that their truckers have to be
Starting point is 00:02:53 moderate when they're under attack from Dom to Resso all the time. They're being forced into this position. What do we say the trucker should do in this situation? Yeah, absolutely. Not fight back? Absolutely. Let the Don family take all of his canisters. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:07 Of something. And his iguana? You have an absolute rights. He's trying to do, fuck it. He's trying to do wages of fear shit. And the family are on his ass like, mosquitoes. You have an absolute right to vehicular self-defense.
Starting point is 00:03:22 And so when the like three cars... Howl's moving castle doctrine. Thank you. Yes. Yes. So when the heist team roll up on him, this trucker, he clutches in one hand his beloved pet iguana and in the other his gun. And he does not hesitate to let that shit bark, which I appreciate very much.
Starting point is 00:03:45 I really love that they show. over trucker, this beautiful Dominican trucker, he's got his iguana, we see him like feed the iguana, and then in a second shot, we see that he has a hood ornament of an iguana on his truck. Yeah, like one of the tracking shots. You've got to be getting theming bonuses in your life. You have to. Yeah. Also included in the heist crew, Michelle Rodriguez and Dominic Taredo are still dating. I choose to believe Michelle Rodriguez is the same character from the assignment. This is Frank for Hitman. This is what he did after he was
Starting point is 00:04:17 for Spemned. And I also choose to believe that Vin Diesel knows all of that and is completely cool with it. I think so. Oh, absolutely. I think you can be clear about that. I've written down, but I think it's very heartwarming that the sort of the nucleus of this found family is an obviously lavender marriage.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Good for them. It's nice. Yeah, yeah, it's nice. Don't get attached. Don't get too attached. So the way that this works is Michelle Rodriguez is deposited from Vin Diesel's car onto the back of one of the trailers Yeah, she jumps on.
Starting point is 00:04:50 And then she climbs over a bunch of them and then freezes the coupling. The knuckle, the thing that connects the trailer to the tractor with liquid nitrogen and then hits it with a hammer to shatter it, right? Who's the guy picking up the first lot? Mother fucking Hahn is here.
Starting point is 00:05:12 Hahn is here. That's right. Yeah, this is the eponymous back when we used to roll together that Han was into American muscle cars during from Tokyo Drift. So this is before Tokyo Drift, but after the first two. Yes. Yeah. We're going to end up writing ourselves into a corner with the chronology, right? Because what they realized with Tokyo Drift was that Han was too good to let go.
Starting point is 00:05:39 Yeah, I love this weird groomer. Yeah. We gotta keep him in the movies. So in order to preserve keeping the groomer in the movies, they have to keep compressing more and more... More and more movies into the space between Fast and Furious and Tokyo Drift. Right? So this will get worse.
Starting point is 00:06:00 At the moment, Han just has the kind of like dyed hair Irishman de-aging thing going on. And again, don't get attached because he's barely in this. He's in this for one heist. Yeah, yeah. He's here to execute it perfectly, because the way the heist works is that they, like, drive backwards behind the two that Lettie have let loose and, like, connects up and then takes that away.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Cool. Yeah. Pretty cool. Yeah, pretty cool system. Like, fun visuals. They're against the clock on this one because in, like, X number of kilometers, the truck will hit a big downhill grade,
Starting point is 00:06:39 which will make it impossible for them to. to do the heist for reasons that are not clear to me. And so, Han, he does this maneuver perfectly. And then as Michelle Rodriguez is like freezing the thing again for the second team, which is two guys who bicker in Spanish to do the same thing, the trucker decides he is going to like let it back, right? Yeah. He becomes hostile.
Starting point is 00:07:07 He fights back. He wrecks their shit. His dog on the main turns red. Yeah It's like, oh, fuck Yeah, you got the trucker's theme starts playing And then it's like
Starting point is 00:07:16 Really, really intense Yeah, you've lost You've lost influence With the trucker faction Respect amongst the trucker faction Yeah Few actions You've become vilified
Starting point is 00:07:26 By the trucker faction This is kind of the Irishman again, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah But so I've seen Michelle Rodriguez She drops the hammer And is like imperiled Yeah, she ends up
Starting point is 00:07:40 stuck on like a leaking gas canister once the other two guys managed to get their canisters away and she's like stuck on it and then Vin Diesel has to like drive after them. My notes say the cowardly trucker abandons his truck thus becoming a normal guy. Yeah, he does because... Yeah, go down with your truck
Starting point is 00:07:56 brother. They hit the like big downhill grade and despite the fact that he's carrying way less weight on account of the found family gang having stolen it, his brakes work less well. Yeah, you'd think you would have noticed that there'd be some change in the speed of the truck when two of the canisters were taken away.
Starting point is 00:08:15 Yeah, and so the downhill grade culminates in like a turn that the truck, I guess, can't make for reasons to go. I don't know how he would have gotten around this at the best of times. Yeah, he looks at this turn and he's like, I will abandon my truck and my code of honor and even my very identity. And so... He goes out. Yeah. Absolutely. The truckless iguanid dip shit jumps off the truck and rolls away, losing my respect to him instantly.
Starting point is 00:08:46 He'll be back in Fax and Furious. I hope so. When you put that iguana truck ornament on there, you're saying, this is my truck. You should go down with that thing. You should be willing to die for that hood ornament. It does really look like he lands on the iguana as well. It really does, yeah. Squishing my beloved iguana immediately.
Starting point is 00:09:06 He lost everything that day. He's going back punished. He's going back. Eye patch, big star. Yeah. Like sort of... Second iguana. Hercules-style hood made out of an iguana.
Starting point is 00:09:19 Very small. Second meaner iguana also with an eye patch. But so... So Dom rescues Lettie at the last second and then has to drive his car under the kind of pinwheeling, like, flaming gasoline tank trailer. This is written by like a six-year-old playing with toy cars. Yeah. Unfortunately, there are computers involved in a production of this movie.
Starting point is 00:09:45 It's a shame. It's a shame. There are a lot. It's too late. They do throw like a real truck full of gasoline down a hillside, which I appreciate. But there's a lot of CGI mixed in. Yeah. And they get away.
Starting point is 00:09:59 We then smash cut to the series Signature Midriff. It's as bad as it's ever been. And I'm going to keep marking these movies down for you. using women as set dressing. We cut to midrifts, asses, people dancing. There's one woman who just has a... Yeah, there's one woman who just has like a belt buckle that says pussy, which I guess is there in case you get lost.
Starting point is 00:10:21 Oh, thanks, that's with it. I need to be like a label. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. On one of us that would go fucking hard. But like, on a cis woman, I'm just like, no, that's not good. Kind of a flex to wear the pussy belt buckle and never get surgery. Yeah, no, exactly.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Yeah, yeah. But also the other thing we get is that like, there is a shot of a petrol nozzle going into a petrol tank next to a woman's pussy. Just in case you did not understand that the women are objects. I'm just like, this is worse than it's ever been. It is. And the gang is celebrating their successful heist with, I guess, a kind of like gasoline party, which is not something I thought existed outside of the Mad Max universe.
Starting point is 00:11:00 It's common. Just hanging around refueling all of your cars with stolen gasoline. There's also a bunch of like open flame. games around, which... Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sort of, yeah, heavily incentivized, like, induced demand at the local Burns unit.
Starting point is 00:11:17 Mm-hmm. It's a carsman tribal ritual after vanquishing a truck. Dom has this thing, right, in the series, which I think is going to become more acute the more we go on, which is the kind of... He has a lobe in his brain labeled pathological self-sacrifice, and it will, actually... Activate the drop of a hat. I think it's because of all of the car crashes he's been in, right? It gets bigger across the series, right? Start pressing on other parts of his brain.
Starting point is 00:11:46 And so he hears that he has like a kind of a five-star wanted level off the back of the iguana heist, right? Immediately goes to Hahn as like, you've got to go to Tokyo drift right now. Yeah, yeah. He's like, you guys should get out of here to me, they want. Well, Han actually brings it up. Yeah, Han's like, damn, maybe I'll go groom some kids in Tokyo. Haid goes, heard they're doing some crazy shit in Tokyo is the line. I was like, I, they are going sideways.
Starting point is 00:12:13 And pedophilia. Sideways pedophilia. It isn't even the chronology, right? Because what happens after this is Han goes to the Justinin's last movie, better off tomorrow, I think it was called, and then goes to Tokyo. Yeah, I was going to say we should probably watch that at some point, because he is literally in it called Han as well. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:33 So like, yeah, I don't know. That's homework. Yeah, having exiled Han to Tokyo. I mean, listen, I'll just say it the way my notes say it. Mr. Homo over here walking out on Michelle Rodriguez. Yeah, like, what are we? Yeah, because he says to Michelle Rodriguez, like, I love you even though you were a hitman who was force phone by Sigourney Leaver. And then, you know, he says, you should go, you should run and leave me.
Starting point is 00:13:00 And she's like, I'm not going to, I like that there are a couple. She's like, I'm not going to fucking cut and run, you know? I love her lavender marriage, you know? I'll do it, yeah, yeah. And so, yeah, he just does it, okay, fine. He said, fine, I'll do it. Leaves overnight, leaves her two bands and his iconic cross necklace. Cool.
Starting point is 00:13:17 You'll not go five minutes about seeing this necklace with the rest of the fucking movie. This is true. Do you know what also happened in the early 2000s in the noughties? What happened? 9-11. Jason Bourne. Which is by this next sequence is the way that it is. Casino Royale
Starting point is 00:13:33 10 years before this. I was like, who what if that was free running? Yeah, you remember the Casino Royale iconic parkour chase? Yeah. What if we did that again with Jason Bourne style editing
Starting point is 00:13:48 so you couldn't see it? Yeah, yeah. This is two years post-casino royale and we begin with Paul Walker jumping through a window like Hitler and Danger 5 of beginning a parkour chase with a guy with a lot of like head tattoos. Yeah, you cannot tell what is it. Like me age 17, the editor is making too many cuts.
Starting point is 00:14:11 You cannot see what is happening. Handheld camera. It's handheld by a motherfucker who should be trying some medical marijuana. It's bad. I mean... It's bad. They do do one kind of cool thing, which is the guy climbs a chain link fence and Paul Walker also. climbs it after him, isn't quick enough to get over and like shoves him off the other side.
Starting point is 00:14:33 Yeah, that was pretty good. I felt that was pretty slow. Just like jumps against him. Yeah. Super Mario style, yeah. Absolutely. The guy steals a cop's service weapon and opens fire. So Paul Walker draws his paedophile service weapon and follows him into a building. Chases him into an apartment block where the guy is like waiting to ambush him. He like climbs out through an apartment window and he's got his gun trained on the apartment
Starting point is 00:14:54 window. And then Paul Walker charges his Hitler in Danger 5. move again, jumps horizontally out an adjoining window, tackles the guy off a roof, down like two stories, onto the roof of a car, and immediately starts interrogating him, which... Yeah, points a gun at an unarmed man and threatens to shoot him unless he gives him a name, which, okay, the unprovoked violence score in this movie is ticking up and it starts now. Yeah, not to be like, I feared for the safety of myself and my fellow officers, but the guy was very much armed a second ago, but he doesn't like, he doesn't like Miranda is him or anything.
Starting point is 00:15:32 He just starts yelling. Yeah, Jack Bowers down. Tell me next location, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, give me a clue. Give me a clue. Give me a clue. Just one clue.
Starting point is 00:15:44 And the clue the guy gives him is that the guy he wants is named David Park. Park. Yes. Which is a very common name. Yeah. as Shay Wiggum from Boardwalk Empire, as racist FBI agent will say in a moment, because we go back to FBI headquarters. We do.
Starting point is 00:16:05 Yeah, we learned that he's been reinstated to the FBI, which he was never in. No, no. He wasn't in the FBI. He was in the LAPD. There was one FBI guy who liked him, I guess. Yeah, you can't get reinstated into an organization you've never been part of. Yeah, I mean, this I think is going to be one of the other themes we have to lock in on is Dom Teresso's pathological self-sacrifice lobe, and is Paul Walker's character in or out with the cops?
Starting point is 00:16:33 Because they really do just put him in like cop timeout every time they get mad at him, and then let him back in for the next movie. So right now he's an FBI agent. Somehow. Okay, cool. But he's like Johnny Utah kind of like, he's the cool FBI agent. Yeah, exactly. They're in this like task force that's meant to, like, investigate. one of the cartels.
Starting point is 00:16:57 Yeah. Yeah. It's called the Braga cartel. But I watched this without subtitles and kept thinking they said the Brana cartels. I thought it was Kenneth Branagh running a cartel, which also was very funny because you don't find out who the leader of it is for ages and there's a big builder. And I kept me like, shit, it better be Kenneth Branagh. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:18 Anyway, Kenneth Branner is running drugs off the border from Mexico in cars that to cars, it's drive his cars, right? We've got to find him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course they put Paul Walker in the combination cartel street racing unit. Fine, whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's twice his strength.
Starting point is 00:17:34 I don't know why any of the rest of him are there. Like, I know why he's there. We established some stakes in that the boss is like, if we don't, like, bust open this cartel in the next 10 minutes, uh, that my boss is going to have my ass. And then we're not going to get to be friends anymore on the task force. Yeah, his like, FBI case is like,
Starting point is 00:17:53 I'll miss you guys. If we don't solve. the Braga organization thing in like, I don't know, 72 hours, we're just going to give up on it. We're just fucking not going to do it. Yeah. Yeah. Just going to let it just get it. Fuck it.
Starting point is 00:18:03 Less FBI, more ADHD. We're going to hope. But Shea Wigam is there and he's like racist fed. So he's like, David Park, that's an extremely common Korean name. He frames it more racistly than that. Yeah, he goes, he's like talking about Chinatown. Like, it's not a fucking Chinese-San. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:21 Haven't you seen Parasite? So remember how he said, don't get attached? Letti. Dom is in Panama City, Panama. Not to be confused with Panama City, Florida, which is something I just found out that existed. Oh. What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:18:34 And he finds out that Lettie's fucking dead. Yeah, Fridged. Michelle Rodriguez. Out of here. Fridged. Get her out. Is she really? Are they going to like,
Starting point is 00:18:45 well, I put a marker down. I think they wreck on it at some point, but for this one, we're supposed to believe she's dead for sure. When it comes back full like hamburger show, and she's going to be a fucking like cyber samurai or something, which is why I wrote down, I bet you're going to regret being Mr. Homo now that that woman is definitely 100% for real dead. So we then go to her funeral and I have to be honest, this is a visual that only this franchise could have delivered to me and I laugh my ass off, which is they're at the grave sites.
Starting point is 00:19:18 It's like very austere. They've got the kind of like blue filter on it as well. It's very sad and then lined up next to the grave. Is one hearse and a bunch of matchbox cars? Yeah, it's really funny. That's really funny. Just the fucking street racing cars in the like Need for Speed vinyl raps. All the reds and things and then just like bright magenta, bright yellow.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Oh, you can't drive that in a solemn way. That's not the machine that's designed for that. They cut to the funeral and there's a bunch of people with them that drifts out just sitting. They're just always there at every street racing event. racing event. It's like, girls, it's inappropriate. So it's- Los Angeles County's first gasoline cremation. Of course, the second of which was Paul Walker.
Starting point is 00:20:03 So Paul Walker is... Whoa! So Paul Walker is there. Yeah, the other guy there that goes, it's crazy. He didn't show. Meanwhile, he's like 20 feet away from him, just like watching everything. He's like, he's huge. How did you not notice him?
Starting point is 00:20:19 He's on a ridge line. Like, he's massive. They're each standing at different respect for surveillance. distance distances. Yeah, I love that. And I guess it's just like you can do like a kind of JFK-Daley Square kind of like map of the sight lines and they just can't see each other or whatever. You can do the like ludicrous sadness proximity meter diagram.
Starting point is 00:20:39 It circles out from this fucking funeral. But so racist fed is like Dom Torreto's back. We know because the facial recognition software identified him 10 minutes after he crossed the border which is a really funny You better software, my brother Yeah, really funny thing for the facial recognition software to do is to just be like
Starting point is 00:21:01 oh sorry, that guy you just let it through no, he was wanted It's like, no, you want to happen at the border ideally Yeah, 2009 I hadn't perfected it yet 2009 they were just like Go on through whatever It would be weird Right, following this
Starting point is 00:21:14 if a major plot point of the movie was how insanely secure the US border is like that would be weird That would be sort of incongruous, really, wouldn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That would be some kind of, like, sin of the movie that we could make a kind of, like, ding. A sin of cinema, perhaps. Yeah, yeah, maybe, maybe.
Starting point is 00:21:32 I don't know. But so, Dom goes back home. Yeah, that Mia's here, so fucking good luck. Good luck to her when the Carpito's back on the scene. Yeah, we recall they used to have a thing. The Dodge Challenger, Dom's iconic car, that we last saw get hit by a train. I should say it's a Dodge Charger. People are going to be seen.
Starting point is 00:21:51 I don't. I don't. That's my one confession. This Dodge roll. He's got a sturt. The Dodge dart is like not that fucked up for having been hit by a train, right? The Dodge neon is looking pretty good. And the reason why...
Starting point is 00:22:08 Is that Mia, well, Lettie was fixing up the artful dodger waiting for Don to come home. Yeah. Yeah. The Dodge caravan was like... It's like in pretty good shape. And we know that it's her because, as well as Mia telling us so, Dom's iconic cross necklace is hanging from the rearview mirror.
Starting point is 00:22:26 Yeah, it's really good. Mia shows Don his iconic Zundap and is like, it's got the huge great engine stuck out of the top. Really interestingly to me, the three air intake holes have BDS written on the flaps. And I refuse to learn if this is some kind of car bullshit and I'm instead decided to believe that Don is a scourge supporter of BDS. Absolutely, absolutely he is.
Starting point is 00:22:49 That's why he won't fuck Gal Gaddao later on. Absolutely. That pussy is VDS. Yeah. So we go back to the FBI for some more stakes and the not Josh Brolin running the place is like they're going to shut us down. Fucking give me more clues. Yeah. And Paul Walker notices that Letty was a known associate of Kenneth Branagh.
Starting point is 00:23:13 So he's like, oh shit, maybe Dom will be on the case too. And so Dom and Mia, yeah, because they go to the crash site where Lettie was killed and then Dom used. is the car force? Yeah, I have a few thoughts about this. They head out to the murder scene and Don holds down the right thumbstick to activate instinct vision. I wrote the exact same thing. I think we've been friends for several years at the stage.
Starting point is 00:23:36 Yeah, I phrased it as press L1 to activate Toreto mode, but sure. That's really good. I phrased that as Dom does car-ar-a-gorn shit. I also described him as Dom Teresso roadmage, right? because he goes to the... Oh yeah, I was driving over. I had a really bad case of roadmage. Do you mean road rage?
Starting point is 00:24:01 No, I turned a guy into a fucking frog. I lost control. Because he goes to the crash site and he like finds some like residue on the road. Touches it. I so thought he was going to put it in his mouth. Yeah. I really thought he was. And he has a perfect like Dexter style flashback.
Starting point is 00:24:20 Perfect. how the car crash happened, right, which is one car ran Lettie off the road, and then as she was in the wreckage, a guy came up and shot her in the face. At which point, I go, oh, they just reused the Dom Investigates a murder script that was going to be Tokyo Drift. Yeah, they fully did, yeah. This is a very car movie in the sense that it uses all of secondhand parts. Yeah. So he like has a sense of this and he's on the case now. He's sworn to investigate.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Yeah. And he has a line here. He goes, there are burn marks on the ground that could only have been made with nitro meth. Yeah. And there's one guy in L.A. who sells it. And I was like, convenient. There isn't one guy in L.A. who sells any of anything. It's a big city.
Starting point is 00:25:12 There's not, there's no unique thing in Los Angeles. I'm sorry. But so meanwhile, Brian, fucking Paul Walker, he's sitting in his car, and he's taken something to heart from the first movie at least, because he did in fact get a bacon and cheese with fries for 599 at Fat Burger, comma, faggots. Hell yeah. He's sitting there eating his fed burger and like getting sauce on his files. I'd love to go to Fed Burger. It's the IRS Burger joke. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:43 Basically a surveillance fan food truck, is that anything? I don't know. The FBI pick me it up and then Paul Walker goes to chat to her. He takes her to a diner. And I like this scene because we recall that in the first movie, Paul Walker did spy cop shit to her. And he apologises. He says, what I did you was wrong.
Starting point is 00:26:05 And then she calls him out. He says, what I did to you was wrong. I'm sorry. And then he spoils it by saying, like, it was really hard for me? And she's like, oh, I'm sorry. Was it fucking hard for you to fucking race? me, you fucking piece of shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:16 It's good. It's good. I use that word, but like, yeah, she's mad. I appreciate this. Yeah. Key point is the racist cop has brought her in and Brian the Carpito immediately lets her back out. Yeah. He just like takes over and just lets her go.
Starting point is 00:26:31 We also got a scene of Dom investigating because he goes to the one guy. He does. He sells the Nitromat. Cool Dom moment. And the guy's like, I don't respect you, right? Right? So Dom uses an environmental thing where he pulls the guy out from under a car. And what he does is he tortures the guy with like functionally like a kind of a mock execution,
Starting point is 00:26:53 right? He turns here. Let's an engine block on a hoist down like over the guy and catches it at the last second. And I'm just thinking about how that would go if he had fumbled it of like misjudging your cool torture and crushing the guy's head in stormy. Just like your only leave. Heed just splattered all over the hood of his car. I guess take his books and get out of the...
Starting point is 00:27:18 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. If you use violence inappropriately, you can then, like, you just... Really convenient that the guy... The opportunity for this was highlighted in Terello Vision as I guess that was. I have to hold down X while it fills up. Really useful that the guy kept a comprehensive diary. Yeah. But, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:37 So Brian... Brian's friend, colleague... He's like partner, junior FBI agent. Yeah. She identifies the David Park, the specific David Park that they need. Yeah, well, she pulls a bunch of records and she's like, well, this guy drives this car, this guy drives this car. And Brian gets a kind of epic moment of like essentially implying that all of the car she's naming a gay until he gets to one that he thinks is cool. One of them's a hybrid.
Starting point is 00:28:05 Yeah. And he's like, oh, this one, this is our guy, because that's the car I would drive. drive. Cool. Okay, dude. Yeah, cool man. So both Dom and Brian converge on David Park's flat. Dom gets their first and he's on his anti-hero shit.
Starting point is 00:28:22 So he beats him up and dangles him out of the window. Jason Bourne shit. Also, Brian, Brian's driving his like Fedmobile as well, which is like a kind of brown Ford Crown Victoria. And I feel like something they maybe could have explored more is the kind of spiritual prison of putting a guy who needs to be in the matchbook car. in the kind of most work-coded car I could think of.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Yeah. It's like putting the guy from wanted in his cubicle. It's the same thing. Yeah. You can't put me in this car. That would have been fun. It would have been a fun deleted scene. But Paul Walker runs in and he's like,
Starting point is 00:28:56 hey, we both want Kenneth Branagh. Dom's like, yeah, but I want to kill him. And then he drops the guy, he drops Park out of the window, and then Dom vanishes with the power of editing. And I'm like, there's only one door in and out of that room And Vince Diesel is a big guy.
Starting point is 00:29:12 There's no way you got passport walking to get him, man. If you press the left stick and the right stick at the same time, then you actually... He's in an unusually wide locker in the corridor, just like waiting for the fucking meter to go down. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He plokes. Like, yeah. Vin Diesel is not the predating. He can't just disappear.
Starting point is 00:29:31 A group of monks. He's just in between. This is their first meeting in, like, fucking years or whatever. Yeah. And he doesn't really get much off of it. He doesn't even do it like, you know, you're fussed, but I'm furious thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, man, they so are.
Starting point is 00:29:48 Yeah. No, he just drops the guy out of the window. And the guy miraculously finds something to cling on to allowing, allowing Brian to save him. Allow dumb to get his moment, but also not actually kill that guy. Yeah. Having it both ways for sure. So Brian arrests the guy, to which I raise the question, what all. Or?
Starting point is 00:30:09 Um, I don't... It's protective custody in case that guy comes back. Next. Pretty good. Pretty good. Nice. You'd be a good cop, death. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:19 You gotta know how they think to convert them. So the FBI are like, okay, cool. We have next guy. And from this, we know that what they're doing is there's going to be an illegal street race. Brian's fucking rubbing his hands in glee, right? Yeah, there's like, they obviously are going to make him do the illegal street race. and everyone in the room knows it and he's like fist pumping, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're like, Ramon Campos, right? Braga's number two is about to hold a street race to fill an open slot in the gang and you see the entire plot click into place and you're like, alright, yeah, yeah, brilliant, okay, boom. We get competing montages. Welcome the race wars.
Starting point is 00:30:57 Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, right, race wars. This isn't like race job interview as the thing. Like, so, again, they did this one already. into Fast Too Furious. We get competing montages where Dom is like fixing up his car and Brian is fixing up his car. We get a lot of product placement shots
Starting point is 00:31:19 of Castrol motor oil as well. The Alan Partridge motor oil. I do kind of want to see Dom Teresso in the Alan Partridge castrol jacket, yeah. It's all mentally the sort of oil company from Lego to me. It's a lockdown, isn't it? Octane, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:39 Absolutely. So of course, Dom is planning on entering the race as well, so that he can join the gang and track down. That was why he was dangling the guy out of the window. The guy, as he's being dangled, it's like, all I can do is, like, get you a sloss in the race. And then he, like, drops him out of a window and then that guy gets arrested. So I'm not sure where, maybe he used his, like, one phone call to, like, get Dom a place
Starting point is 00:32:01 and the thing. Yeah. Don's obviously... Don don't really think this one through, yeah. He's grieving. They attach a tracking device to Brian O'Connor's. car so you know that they're going to watch the race on a monitor and assume he's running at some point.
Starting point is 00:32:13 Yeah. Yeah. Like, don't go within 50 feet of a school. No. And then we cut to the actual... Legs, asses. Race, which is legs. For sure.
Starting point is 00:32:24 It's like boots and headlights. Yeah. I am then hit by a double-tap drone strike in my civilian location because Galga Dott is in this movie. Yes. Yes. I've not been entirely honest with the two of you. I've unfortunately known this whole time
Starting point is 00:32:41 that we've been waiting for Galgado and unfortunately she actually does show up She does She does she she's looking alarmingly skinny Like honestly Like first shot like Look at her
Starting point is 00:32:55 I'm like Jesus Christ This woman is why it's the naughty Yeah yeah Nauties beauty standards Yeah she is I mean especially because I used to seeing her as Wonder Woman And obviously I'm being a bit more muscular But yeah
Starting point is 00:33:07 I guess I guess being an IDF fitness instructor doesn't tell you much about dieting. But so she doesn't even do anything at this point. She's just there. And then we get our interview with Campos, Ramon Campos, the like Braga's number two, who is a real sentence with one Spanish word in it, motherfucker. Oh, see, signor.
Starting point is 00:33:33 We know this type of guy. We know this type of guy. We've seen him before. Of course we do. Of course we do. And he's like, I'm intimidating. And Dom's like, I'm not a chibri-duty by you. It's like, I'm intimidating, cabron.
Starting point is 00:33:45 And then there's also this other guy there, Phoenix. Yeah, Phoenix. Phoenix is also here and he's like, I'm a minor antagonist. And Dom's like, whatever. Okay. Cool. One of the other racers guy called Dwight. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:58 Like Dwight's energy. Dwight has a good energy. Dwight refers to Dwight's self and the third person. And has sort of like a lot of women around him. pronouns Dwight, Dwight? I mean, Dwight is looking kind of egg-ish to me. Maybe, yeah. But in any case, right, they set up for the race, and the deal with the races, something that was new in 2009 was a satnav.
Starting point is 00:34:25 Oh, was it? That's why this is there. Yeah. We get the preposterously epic. That's hilarious. The preposterously epic satnav with the, like, graphics. The sexy ladies that pop up in the sat nav? Oh my God. This is so cool that they thought this was so cool that they made like a cool version of the satnav with a sexy voice that rocks.
Starting point is 00:34:47 Yeah. The idea is you have to follow this route. So it's like point to point. The first one there gets the job. Again, they did this one already. They're like, we want real drivers and Vin Diesel goes like, what are we transporting? A real driver knows what's in his car at all times? And I wrote down, that's Frank Transportor's second rule.
Starting point is 00:35:07 or whatever. Yeah. There's intertextuality. Frank Transporter is, Frank Transporter is in collateral as well. So, like, he gets around. He comes up. Yeah. So they race.
Starting point is 00:35:19 There are a lot of topical sat nav jokes. Like Brian goes off route and as it's yelling at him the whole time and he's like yelling bad. This is so dad-coded. Just before they take off, Dom and Brian exchange some words, but it's obviously too loud for them to hear each other over the rev. So I just, like, to imagine if I just didn't hear. Also, yeah, distance apartment.
Starting point is 00:35:40 Yeah, Paul Walker's like, yeah, I'm going to see you in the thing. He's like, what? Yeah. I'm listening to Jazz too loud. Paul Walker's revving the car. And Vin Diesel was like, Paul Walker, you will die in a single car accident in Los Angeles County in like three years' time. And Paul Walker is just revving too hard.
Starting point is 00:35:57 You can't hear him. What's that? Huh? What? Nothing. Army brother. Exactly. So.
Starting point is 00:36:04 This is our first multi-ethnic coalition of races this series of, this series of, show me that includes a Muslim man. Nice. Nice to see. I look this guy up. He's from Palestine. Cool. Musa Christ. Phil Diesel's giving him a high five. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:36:16 I got to talk about, like, because just narrating the plot of the movie doesn't really sell the experience here, this is where the editing starts to get really difficult to watch. This is a kind of like hostile environment. It's like having the kind of like, you know, like teenager repelling noise that like shops and UK have. It's like because they will not hold a shot. Should have given that's poor Walker. Well, true. They will not hold a shot for longer than two seconds. And once you notice that, you can't unsee it because it's cut and then cut and then cut and then cut. There is one point where they do four shots to show Vin Diesel looking out of a window. It is unwatchable. It's got
Starting point is 00:36:59 greengrass disease. Yeah. Yeah. It's really, really like, difficult to watch. But so they're racing towards the thing. Paul Walker... Sorry. One of those two second shots is Paul Walker's back, so his fucking fuck-ass converse are back in the goddamn movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Protagonist co-chews.
Starting point is 00:37:17 More shots of the converse pushing pedals. Some of the other drivers try and, like, race dirty, and then Vin Diesel dodges out of the way, and one of them crashes and dies. Yeah, Paul Walker drives off the route, and then gets back onto the route, and the sat nav goes, you are now living one quarter mile at a time
Starting point is 00:37:33 from your destination, which is epic. And so finally it's Paul Walker and Vindiesel in the final straights. And the fucking Paul Walker pulls the nitrous just in time and is about to win when Vind Diesel, because he's edgy now, because he's furious, he like rams him off the road. And my note just says, how are you a cop and get pit maneuvered? That's your thing. Yeah, it's fucking crazy.
Starting point is 00:38:02 Like Dom uses his nitro and Brian's like, ah, two. soon Dom and hits his and then slightly overtakes him, Dom just pits him and goes like, still a buster. Wins the race. Brian immediately starts yelling about it. Is that what he said? I don't know what a buster is. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:20 He's so in his feelings about it. He's so much. Brian gets out of the car. He's like, you're a fucking bitch. I hate you. You cheated. You cheated the illegal street race. And it's the other two are dead, motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:38:29 Do you hear of yourself? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He made me crash my car. Mauds. Now, Well, we have to go back to... Not quite yet. Vin Diesel gets the job.
Starting point is 00:38:41 And then Galgadoo is like, hey, scan your thumbprint here. And also give me your cell phone number because I think you're hot. And Vin Diesel's just like, okay. Vince Diesel gives her his number. Just remember it's that way around. That's a woman, by the way, with one of the weirdest accents and deliveries in the game. And it's not even because she's Israeli. It's not even a distinct Israeli accent.
Starting point is 00:39:03 It's just like her, right? It's really idiosyncratic and it's bad. Well, I don't agree with Galgado and everything, but I think it's fine when women have idiosyncratic accents, particularly if they're tall action stars with a very cool stunt double. Depends on the accent. All right, everyone open your Abigothorn translation dictionary to figure out what she was saying there.
Starting point is 00:39:27 This is why, like, we have the same stunt double, that's the point. Okay. That's really funny. All right. We have to go back to beloved. He's Dwight. Dwight is up to some stuff. Dwight is doing safe, sane and consensual.
Starting point is 00:39:42 Dwight, Dwight's, um, bothering. Dwight's a fuck guy. Yeah, he's bothering a woman to lick her feet, and he does. And- She's doing a male-gazed lesbian makeout, and he's just filming her feet. She is. He just got onto the team, he's celebrating. He's got five or six women in there, and he's saying, ladies, let's get those feet off.
Starting point is 00:40:00 Dwight likes feet. Let's see them feet. You know what? Honestly work. Yeah. The innocent foot fetishist is then immediately swatted by the FBI. That's so fucked up. Foot Bureau of Intelligence.
Starting point is 00:40:13 Actually, really remarkably good shot here that tracks over the ranks of SWAT approaching the house in through the window of the house to see them bust in on Dwight. I was like, oh, okay, I see you. Yeah, it's pretty good. Nice little bit fun making. Nice of a foot. And then they like fake it as well. They just like, they have cocaine and they go like, he's got cocaine guys and just throw
Starting point is 00:40:33 cocaine at him. Yeah, the FBI. I just will plant drugs on you pretextually. And Paul Walker is there. And he once again being a SWAT guy for fun. And it's kind of suggested that he did pick Dwight to do this too because Dwight was annoying. Yeah. Yeah, that's unprovoked violence.
Starting point is 00:40:51 You did just like needlessly bust the guy's fucking doion and terrorize the showing this guy. Right? Like he's getting him off the team so he can get in. Yeah. When he plants the drugs, one of the other FBI guys is like, hey, you know that's never going to hold up in court, right? which, I wish. And Brian goes, I know that's the point, which is meant to be like kind of exonerative to be like.
Starting point is 00:41:14 And they both like laugh and like high five about it or whatever. No, we're just hashtag waste his time 2009, right? Like we're not going to, it's not going to, he's not going to go to federal prison, right? It's like, okay, sure. You just like still got like swatted by you. Yeah. Yeah. He's at least going to have to buy a new door.
Starting point is 00:41:35 Brian actually developing like a cop morality in real time. Yeah. But so the two of them get like called for a basically like a celebratory second round interview, which fucking... Gasoline party. Yeah. You can't get into anything with like one round of interviews anymore. And Campos is there. So it's in the nightclub.
Starting point is 00:41:58 And we know it's in a nightclub because they have the male, gays, lesbian pollicule this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not much, but it's honest work, you know. I have to kiss two women back and forth and the side of a shot with the protagonist, in it. The thing that I really like and a detail that I really want to highlight, it just pleases me. Brian's little fucking going out shirt is so funny to me. He's wearing the going out shirt that men used to wear in 2009.
Starting point is 00:42:26 Pinstripe type thing. Yeah. Yeah. Really good. It's very fun. Looks like my older brother used to dress. It's very funny. But they meet up with Brana's number two
Starting point is 00:42:35 And they're like, what's Brana like? And this guy's like, oh, he's really cool, huge dick, very handsome like here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, very cool guy. Not me, but like, yeah, very cool guy. Because this is a real, like, one word of Spanish motherfucker, he's like, he's from El El Barrio, right? Like, he's, he's from the hood, which will be important later. Yes, it will. So, like, he was in tenet, you know.
Starting point is 00:43:01 kind of brags about his, his, um... He was in Oppenheimer. He's good. He directed Thor. Don't brag. He was in our movie. He says, he did a winter's tale and it was mid. Shadow Recru.
Starting point is 00:43:15 He was in Shadow Recruits. He was. The Poirot, says, I don't know about your other drivers, but when I see flashing lights in my mirror, I don't stop. Yeah. Which is an incredible flex to be like joining a cartel and being like, I don't respect the police. like,
Starting point is 00:43:32 like, cots. Yeah, it's like, yeah, man, we, we kind of assumed.
Starting point is 00:43:36 Ruffa says to Don, like, a lot of, you're like, wanted, the police are looking for you and immediately Brian goes like, that kind of he can't be good for business,
Starting point is 00:43:43 huh? Like, just straight away. Like, fuck you. This should be the sort of era of like layered conversations and double meanings, but it isn't because they don't
Starting point is 00:43:52 because they don't give a shit really. Yeah, they should be doing the all, all code phrase conversation from OSS-Cair. Yeah, it's mutually a sure destruction, though,
Starting point is 00:44:01 because Vin Diesel's like, well, I could tell him that you're a cop. And Brian's like, well, I could tell him that you're out for revenge. So why do we just both keep our fucking mask? Yeah, they just mutually reassure. Which just has it out pretty evenly. So Don't go spokey around and finds the, what he thinks is the car that killed Lettie and is interrupted by Gal God. This fucking dialogue.
Starting point is 00:44:26 Fucking hell. Well written, well delivered. Her line is, are you one of those boys? who prefers cars to women. And I just... And he responds, I'm one of those boys who appreciates a good body
Starting point is 00:44:39 no matter the make. Bisexual? Bisexual. Pan-sexual. Cards inclusive? Even if that body has been converted by Sigourney Weaver into like a perfect 10 out of 10
Starting point is 00:44:50 Michelle Rodriguez. Being transgender is just a kind of aftermarket body kit, right? So like if anyone's going to be okay with it... Fuck yeah, you're illegal mods. Didn't that's what's up? Like, yeah, of course, of course, like a car guy would be. I did an engine swap.
Starting point is 00:45:05 All my organs are Japanese. Japanese transsection manufacturer. Oh, shit. Going to Japan for the surgery because you want original parts. I'm going to Japan for the surgery for no special reason at all, but just that you want a Japanese pussy. Like this pussy? It's Japanese. Oh, that's a real type of trans woman that exists.
Starting point is 00:45:29 And I don't like his make. That's a real thing. That's a real thing. Ooh, every day I get psychic damage from work. But so, there's huge... I don't want to highlight. I don't want to keep hammering in on this point, right? But like, when she's going, do you prefer cars to women?
Starting point is 00:45:47 Women fucking wear, like her arms are like an inch across. It's... She's terrifying to look at. It's just... It's quite scary. But so, Dom fantasize. is about his perfect woman, right? Who is, and I wrote this down,
Starting point is 00:46:03 20% angel, 80% devil, 100% reason to drive for the name, and not afraid to get a little grease under her fingernails. And Galcados, like, damn, that sounds like me, I guess. No, she says, she says that sounds nothing like me. And he goes, it ain't, and walks away.
Starting point is 00:46:23 And I'm like, damn, hell yeah, so cold. I mean, you can see the letters, BDS written on like one of the, the bumpers nearby. Real heads. No, he's rejecting her due to his unshakable support of Palestinian resistance. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:46:36 Absolutely. Dominic Tareto believes in two things. One, he loves his transgender dead girlfriend, Michelle Rodriguez. And two, he unhesitatingly supports the cause of Palestinian liberation. Absolutely. When you're playing as Dom,
Starting point is 00:46:49 there's an always-on-objective market that says support the brave nation of Palestine. So... Free Palestine. It's just like a little map market. You can collect, like special collect. electables that are like spinning Palestinian flags. Yeah, you will never 100% Dom Torreto until you free Palestine.
Starting point is 00:47:10 Doing the fucking car building montage on a bunch of paraglider. Just kidding about the fucking angliders. Giving them like sick metallic bodywork. Yeah, he just put decals on it. He's just a huge intake mouse. The other upshot of this scene is because they both get hired Campus Is Dom Toreno with like a Palestinian flag pin
Starting point is 00:47:42 This is the hang glider's thing Is gonna really pay off when we get to the world Is not enough No notes in like five years time Anyway That'll be really funny My point is the upshot The upshot of this scene
Starting point is 00:47:54 Is that Campos gives them both pages Right And it's like now you're in the cartel When your pager goes you have to do it or we the cartel are going to be really mad at you and put you on a performance improvement plan. So Brian goes back to the FBI and then while they're talking about this, his pager goes off. The pager has like GPS in it, right? It has the sat now. Yeah. Yeah. You would hope maybe, and this is another like kind of sin of the movie I would say, that if you
Starting point is 00:48:20 were a sort of self-respecting cartel, maybe you would notice that when you paged the guy, the pager was in the FBI field office. Damn, that's crazy. Where is it? What's he doing there? Interesting. Moving on. Yeah, that's a good point. So they drive to this meeting point.
Starting point is 00:48:38 And when they get there, they're like scanning all the cars for bugs. And Brian's got a bug in the car, the tracking device. And so he's just sitting in the car trying to look unsuspicious while he's like finger-fucking the center console to try and get this thing out of it and drop it in a can of monster energy. Really good. And obviously, immediately the tracker goes off. So everyone in FBIH quarters is like, he's fucking flipped on us. He's flipped on us. It's over.
Starting point is 00:49:04 God damn it. They transport them in trucks over now. And then they go to Mexico. I don't know why I wrote down. God, Galgado fucking sucks, Loll. I don't remember what she does. I don't. She's just kind of here.
Starting point is 00:49:18 She's the one who like gives them the assignment. Yeah. She's like, welcome to Mexico, gentlemen. Yeah. Yeah, except if she doesn't say it like that, she'll be running drugs across the board. Phoenix. Phoenix, who drives the car that killed Letty, is also gonna be there. Domterud is like, hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:37 Yeah, he's like working his way up. So like, basically the deal is, the U.S. border is extremely surveil, right? In 2009. And like, there's a border wall, there's cameras, there's all of their shit. Personally, I would have just driven through the regular-ass border gate that only alerts them 10 minutes after I'm in the United States. I'd have gone however I got through there in the first place. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:05 They're on the Mexico side now. Yeah. Yeah, so they must have crossed the border in those trucks, which must presumably have been searched. Yeah, strange. I guess there's nothing illegal about transporting several supercars across the border to Mexico. It's kind of human trafficking as well.
Starting point is 00:50:22 I guess the thing they're going for is that the Mexican border is not surveilled, but the US one is so you can move stuff south but not north easily. Well, that's certainly true of guns. Yeah. I mean, it helps if you're the ATF, I think. Anyway, the deal is they got to do some epic car shit, right? They got to board these cars across assault flat into a hidden tunnel within a certain time or the Border Patrol, which is 100% does a real and valuable job of defending the US
Starting point is 00:50:56 border from Dominic Touretto, I guess, is on them, right? Yeah, they do this thing where like the Border Patrol are chasing them, but also the Border Patrol can't really be like villainous. And so they just kind of like evade them and then the scene ends. And it's like, okay, I guess they made it. The thing is we see a bunch of border surveillance stuff that's extremely fast and active, right? As if the border isn't mostly like boring. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:51:25 this is weird. It's weird. It's a weird place to set your thing. It's a weird thing to do with it. I kind of half expected Don to be drifting past the Hezbollah Pramats from Sicario too. Like it's just kind of... Yeah. They're like, as you know, the U.S.-Mexico border is one long, thin mountain range with salt flats on either side. Yeah. And it's like, it's kind of isn't. It's sort of flat. The whole way. No political valence to the US-Mexico border beyond the fact that it's got a lot of surveillance, which it has for basically plot reasons. And like, you think about the number of people who die trying to cross it, it's sort of like doing like,
Starting point is 00:52:08 Brian fucking drifting the Honda around the killing fields. It's like really grim. Yeah. Unusual. So they drive into the hidden tunnel. Should have just ramped the Rio Grande in a fucking Dodge Charger. I think if you do that, they do that. should give you US citizenship instantly.
Starting point is 00:52:24 They should let you. Yeah, that's a very American thing to do. Yeah, absolutely. But so they race into this like hidden tunnel that I guess the cartel has built. Yeah. Which is full of obstacles. It implies it might be an ex-mining thing, but there's no like tracks or anything. It's all dirt road.
Starting point is 00:52:43 Yeah. But what the hell are you mining? America? Like it's just goes entirely horizontally. Yeah. Yeah. That's where they get it. I guess it is a drug tunnel.
Starting point is 00:52:52 because what the fuck else would the purpose be? Which they've then filled with a bunch of like rickety supports and like obstacles and stuff. Yeah, some like Indiana Jones ride shit like skeletons are popping out and going woo! And it's also, there's animatronic pirates in there as well.
Starting point is 00:53:06 It's really complex inside as well. It's not just a straight line. It's like there's turns and... Oh boy, I hope they get more than one use out of this. So they race all the way through. It looks like a fucking PS2 cut scene. It starts out. And end up in America
Starting point is 00:53:19 where they meet Phoenix. Yeah, and the vibe is like we are now going to kill all of them. Yeah, this is crazy, right? Felix is genuinely like, okay, so you're going to be thrilled about the next phase of this plan, right? Which is, we hire a bunch of street racers in the US, take them to Mexico, get them to transport the drugs
Starting point is 00:53:37 from Mexico to the US through our secret tunnel, and then kill them. Yeah, this is basically my only note. Is this efficient? Disposable street racer. And this is what happened to Lettie. She didn't like fuck up or whatever
Starting point is 00:53:53 she just was part of the machine that kills street races. The other neat thing about Marcus Phoenix here is that he is, he has a like hammer and sicker neck tattoos. What the fuck is going on here?
Starting point is 00:54:08 What is that supposed to mean? I found an interview with the actor playing him where he says that Justin Lin referenced Mike Tyson having a tattoo of Mao, which doesn't fucking explain anything.
Starting point is 00:54:21 So, I don't know, ardent communist Marcus Phoenix, whose deal, I guess, is strict campus trafficking heroin into America to weaken America because I hate America and it's the global hegemon. Fair play? Sure, I guess. Sure, buddy. This is Lazalonzo, by the way, it's playing Phoenix. He's good in Jarhead, he's in The Boys.
Starting point is 00:54:41 Jahead, a movie that also has Lucas Black in it, which will really jump scare you if you've just watched Tokyo trip before you see it. But so Dom has set an ambush by opening his tank of nitrous and hitting his car cigarette lighter. So the car is now a bomb. And as he confronts Marcus Phoenix, the car blows up, right? With some distance, the cigarette lighter is such an awesome thing. It's just such a cool way of solving that problem. It's just like, what if this metal just got super hot?
Starting point is 00:55:15 You just kind of like poked it to the... And you just touched it really close to your face. Just while you're driving, you know? Really, really, he distracts Phoenix by the experience of going, only pussies run nitro meth, and then it explodes. Yeah. It's like, where'd you buy that nitrogen match? The one guy in Los Angeles who sells it.
Starting point is 00:55:34 Yeah. Yeah. I spoke to him earlier. There is a gunfight, a gunfights occurred. So shit. Yeah. Because it's act two, no one dies, but like, Brian and Dom escape together in a hammer full of heroin.
Starting point is 00:55:49 $60 million of heroin. Heroin. Heroin. There's at one point where they talk about this Braga guy and I say he's moved more heroin than El Chabar or something. Eskabar, yeah. And it's like, I think that's pretty easy, right? Like he was kind of a cocaine guy.
Starting point is 00:56:06 This is true. Yeah. So they go back to Dom's, right? Because they stashed the Hummer in like an impound lot because that's one of Brian's like cop tricks, right? Yeah. It's good. He's like they'll never check their own impound lot.
Starting point is 00:56:20 Yeah, it's pretty good. Useful tip, if you're ever a corrupt cop, I guess. Yeah. But then they go back to Dom's garage. My favorite fucking product placement shot in the whole franchise so far, right, is we we realize Dom's been shot, right? Because he's been trailing, like, blood. He gets shot once and he like barely responds in the gunfight.
Starting point is 00:56:40 You like see him get shot. He turns around as if he's been like flicked in the earlobes and he's like, so like, Mia has to like. tend his wound. And this scene is framed on each side at the sort of one third point by two coronas, like two bottles of corona. Yeah, yeah. Perfectly, like framing the thing.
Starting point is 00:57:03 It's the only thing Dom Toreta drinks as well. They partake in the great U.S.ian peace ritual of Chinese take out Latin music and shooting the shit. And like, Dom starts eating and Mia's like, you got to say grace. And like, he punctuates it by taking a long sip of. Corona before he says, Chris. God's beer. I gotta fucking get some Corona.
Starting point is 00:57:23 Saying Grace, witnessed by an overflowing corona. Yeah. So at this point, he finds Lettie's phone. This is good, yeah. But first, as he's going through Lettie's old stuff,
Starting point is 00:57:38 Paul Walker tells me that he learned about having principles, having a code from Dom in the first movie. It's like, you learned that from a guy who very explicitly, had no code and just lived his life a quarter mile at a time. That's the code is not having a code.
Starting point is 00:57:55 Yeah, what? I guess so. He says to Mia that he let him go at the end of the first movie because at that moment, I respected him more than I did myself. And I'm like, that's reasonable. He just flipped that car and landed it. That's fucking sick.
Starting point is 00:58:07 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And you're a cop. Yeah, you were right. I get it. You're a fucking cop. Yeah, you shouldn't have self-esteem. You should respect this guy more, right? And this guy is a huge supporter of BDS
Starting point is 00:58:18 as well. Like, this is a moral titan we're talking about. I think so. I think so. But we do have to articulate this within the sort of framework of American filmmaking where it's like, um, all American morality. And I don't mean to generalize too broadly, but every single American believes this, right? If I had to summarize what every American thinks, it's a sort of article entitled, uh, what embezzling $50,000 from my GoFund me taught me about forgiving myself. Um, and- Full fucking force. And Paul Walker is on this as well. Right?
Starting point is 00:58:53 Yeah, you can't ever feel bad about something in a way that you don't eventually get forgiven for. And frankly, the sooner the better, right? Yeah, for real. Like, you already feel bad. Like, what are you supposed to do? That's the punishment. And then you just don't feel bad because it gets better on it. So I have some more thoughts about him and Mia later on.
Starting point is 00:59:12 Yeah. Dom finds Lady's phone. He dials her last call number. Brian's phone lights up. And they have a little fight. It's the Olivia Nuzzi jailbait song as his ringtone. He throws him into the breakable object shelf. He does.
Starting point is 00:59:28 Yeah. And then kind of limply do some M.M.A. to each other until they process their feelings enough for Brian to be like, she was helping you. She was an FBI informant. She did it because the deal was that by helping us, we would clear your name. name. Yeah. Not sure that's how that works, but she wanted you to come home.
Starting point is 00:59:53 It's your fault. She's dead. She only did this because you abandoned her. And Vindus was like, er. Vindizel's like, I don't know if he fully accepts that. Yeah, it's like, you know, I'll talk about this more when we get to the other promise the FBI makes. Yeah. About Vind Diesel.
Starting point is 01:00:08 So they're still both trying to track down Kenneth Branagh. So Paul Walker tells his boss at the FBI, like, we're going to, he's lost $60 million worth of heroin, right? Let's use that as a bar. bargaining chip to get a face to face with him and we can get the real Kenneth Branner. And in exchange, you let Dominic Taredo go. Yeah. And at this point, Dominic Toretto arranges the same deal by calling Galga Dot.
Starting point is 01:00:28 But hang on a minute, listeners, you remember she took his number. How does he have hers? Yeah. Yeah. I also, there's also the situation where it's kind of with the FBI, it's Schroding as heroin, right? Like, it's enough that Braga has to lure, like, has to come, like, pay for it himself. that it's not enough to matter if you just seize it.
Starting point is 01:00:50 This is the thing. Yeah, strange. They say that in the same scene as well. They say he needs, he needs this heroin shipment. And I like, what is it? To finance the next one? Is this just in time supply chains, brother? You shouldn't have gotten all mixed up in it.
Starting point is 01:01:04 Shouldn't have let the Braga cartel get bought out by a venture capital during the pandemic. It's a shame. The Patreon for heroin dealers, it's like, it's a really tough market. If you like started a Patreon for dealing heroin a couple years ago, you might be doing okay now, but like if you're a heroin dealer now, it's like rough to be done. So, so hard to start out and dealing heroin. So they set up a meet, right?
Starting point is 01:01:24 And they're like super ultra-promised that Braga's going to be there. And the FBI super promised that they're going to let Dom go without a hitch, right? He's going to go and walk free. Really cute thing I caught in the sort of head FBI guy, the sort of like, I don't know, line manager of the FBI's office, is that he has an extremely large American flag
Starting point is 01:01:44 and a framed photograph of the American flag. You even want to forget what it looks like, would you? That's the flag's ID. It's like the biggest picture in his room is an American. Day of birth, 776. July 4th. Yeah. So they're waiting, right?
Starting point is 01:02:06 There's a shipping container full of SWAT guys, which is a funny unit for SWAT guys to come in. And Campos shows. up. And it's like, oh yeah, Braga will be here any second. And the most fucking Craigslist extra-looking, Fiverr motherfucker. So good. Like, in a men's warehouse suits with cartel boss on a post-it note stapled to his forehead, wrongs up, and is like, like, that's not Kenneth Brunner?
Starting point is 01:02:38 Yeah. What the fuck? Doing a fucking non-union Ricardo Montalban bit, shows up. up and is like, I'm here to buy my heroine belonging to me, Mr. Braga, the cartel boss that I am. Hello, my name is Braga, like, tag and everything. First name Braga, second name, Braga. And then Paul Walker's like, but the real Braga wouldn't wear a pink tie. He grew up in El Barrio, right?
Starting point is 01:03:07 Like, so he wouldn't, he wouldn't dress like that. And they're like, Dave, he's, uh, he previously picked up like a fucking shot glass from the bar and he's been running the prints in the background this whole movie so far and it comes up and like oh shit we've got like Braga's prints
Starting point is 01:03:24 and our racist cop jumps the gun it's the number two guy yeah because it's like very slowly like a fax of Kenneth Branagh is printing out and they're like maybe that guy in the grey suits Kenneth Branagh we gotta get him go go now go now
Starting point is 01:03:38 and they sees him just in time to see that he's not Kenneth Brunner and actually it's a classic number two guy is the real guy maintaining fiction of a number one guy. Yeah. Which Zandai is Miser. Campos is Braga. Abigail Fauna is Sophie.
Starting point is 01:03:54 Zandaya is Mici. Zandaya is Mici. Poppy Corby took is Vinder. It's Vinder. Gun fights into you. Chaos happens. Dom Toreto goes after Braga in Phoenix. As they're driving away,
Starting point is 01:04:08 I'm not sure why she does this, but Galgadot, I guess, is just like, just experiences a lemming moment. and just steps in front of their car and then stops moving. Just like deer in headlights just goes, and then Dom has to tackle her and save her life. Yeah. Yeah. Resident Evil, Six-voice, welcome to the family.
Starting point is 01:04:26 Thereby recruiting her like fucking Goku. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Sort of a tackle-based recruitment thing. It's like a rugby team. Yeah, basically. So Campos flees to Braga, I guess, flees to Mexico,
Starting point is 01:04:39 which, as Dom helpfully informed us, is out of the FBI's jurisdiction. Makes sense. is in his jurisdiction because he's not a cop. And the FBI tell Paul Walker, you fucked up. Kenneth Brown has gotten away and we've lost the heroin. And so we are going to give you the ultimate punishment for cops paid leave. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:00 You're in federal timeout. Everyone's real mad at you. Yeah. And so Paul Walker's like, I'll just do an illegal incursion into Mexican territory. It's crazy how this is. This movie preempts Sicario, like a movie which wouldn't come out for another six years. But I guess just all border stuff kind of tends towards the same thing. So, yeah, this is where I wrote down the Galgato BDS AirScoop joke.
Starting point is 01:05:31 Oh, not yet, because first they go to Dom's place. And Paul Walker comes by and he's like, well, first of all, if you're in the most obvious place, the FBI would be looking for you. So I'm not sure why you're here. But I'll come with you even though it's a suicide mission. Mia is here and then they kiss and have sex This is the bit that fucking This is the embezzling from a GoFundMe bit
Starting point is 01:05:51 Right? Because like as As you recall from when we did the Shiver Baby episode, right? You know that I am a lifelong adherent of the never get over your ex principle right. However, it gets really toxic if what you attach that to is this conviction that the movie
Starting point is 01:06:12 movie has, that you can literally always get back together without you making any effort other than going, I kind of feel bad, because of the plot contrivances. I'm sorry. She's like, oh, you're sorry? Okay, fine enough. Sorry, I didn't realize that you were sorry. And I know that these are films for children, right, or grown children. But like, adult children.
Starting point is 01:06:34 I think maybe. These are films for adult sons. Yeah, in the same way that like no one ever stays dead, right? No relationship is ever broken forever, right? And no one ever has to live with anything as interesting as regret for very long, you know, because you just keep waiting. And that's for the next movie to fix it. And that's what living your life a quarter mile of the time is about.
Starting point is 01:06:54 And it's why these are like ethically terrible movies, right? Yeah, nothing ever really sticks. There's no lasting consequences. Even at the end of this film, as we'll see. Absolutely. Also, another weird thing. Vin Diesel presumably has to like hang out in the garage and listen to Paul Walker. fuck his sister?
Starting point is 01:07:11 Yeah. Because he's there before and he's there afterwards. Yeah. He's working on his iconic like, I don't know, Lotus, whatever it was. He's working on his iconic Dodge car. He's just hearing out of that. He's putting a full Kaffir vinyl
Starting point is 01:07:23 rap on that the whole time for going to scrape all of the like air bubbles off of it. He's listening to one of those Macklemore songs that he put out of that. He's thrust inside his sister. Yeah. Listen.
Starting point is 01:07:37 What a picture you just painted? Um, I like to think of myself as a sort of an artist. It's a wordsmith, yeah. They go to Mexico, yellow filter on, firmly on. Here we go, baby. The sun, it's slightly different. They're in LA.
Starting point is 01:07:53 They're like two fucking arc seconds north of the border. Oh, I know. And it's like normal, but you go past that wall, yellow. Yellow. So because Galgado is like in the family now, she's in the family now, yeah. tips off Dom about where Braga is. And where Braga is? Braga is going to church to...
Starting point is 01:08:14 She's going to... She's going to church to bribe God, which is a really funny thing to do. My man is... That's so cool. Just found out about this guy. Yeah. I'll try to bribe him. The thing is, because it's Mexico and because it's like aggressively Catholic, it's
Starting point is 01:08:31 more like pre-Reformation than anything else. You used to be able to do that. Yeah, it used to be a thing. It was easy. One hold-alls worth of drug money indulgence, please, father. Right? Yeah, it's just rolling up to a church with like a fucking huge sack of money being like, I expect I'll be forgiven.
Starting point is 01:08:51 Yeah. And weirdly, we do see the priest go like, yeah, okay. He seems a little uncomfortable with it, but he does, he like gives him a blessing. So fast and furious, weirdly, sort of not entirely pulling its punches on. the Catholic Church for some reason. Yeah, weird for them to catch strays at like minute 75 of the fourth movie. I mean, I think this is representative of something that's very important to the Fast and Furious movies if never actually discussed, which is Vin Diesel losing his touch with God.
Starting point is 01:09:24 Because it was firm in the first movie. And by this one, he's got his shotgun out in a church, you know? Go ahead, sorry. It wasn't firm in the first movie, because in the first movie when they said grace, it was not an explicitly Christian grace. just to the spirit of cars. This grace, this time they say it, it is an explicitly Christian one. Oh, maybe he's finding his way back then.
Starting point is 01:09:46 Maybe that's the core of this. Well, we'll see. We'll watch the next one and see. But they're, so they roll up, they pull guns on him, and for the second movie in a row, the villain says, we're not so different.
Starting point is 01:09:59 Perfactory. Just looks up like, we're the same, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I'm not. So, while they're holding him a gun, point, his guys are outside, including Phoenix, who I imagine is outside because as a communist, he considers religion to be a kind of bourgeois superstructure or perversion.
Starting point is 01:10:16 That's my belief. I think so. Yeah, he stood out though. Yeah. But they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, um, change, like, no. And then Dom changes his mind, he's like, fine, arrest him. And the deal is, we like, rendition this motherfucker back to the United States out of
Starting point is 01:10:37 Mexico, right? But I get to kill Phoenix and Paul? I do get to kill Phoenix. I agree. It's like, okay, sure, sure. Yeah, go for it. The chase begins. Everybody leaps into their extremely
Starting point is 01:10:49 motorsport cars. I love the cartel guys who get up from a cockfight, racist, to show this, in my opinion, directly into a like, I don't remember the name of the motorsport, but it was in fucking dirt and dirt too.
Starting point is 01:11:07 the like off-road pickup trucks one, one of those. Oh yeah, Christ. Yeah, yeah. I mean, my only note here is I'd love to get scrambled sometime, right? You just sound around with the boys playing cards and it's like, go, go, go, go, everyone get in the cars. You think that's good. Try scrambling someone.
Starting point is 01:11:22 Like, you try being the one doing the yelling. That's the good shit, you know. Yeah, you don't have to leave yourself. You just go, go, go, go, go. Fantastic. You have to ring a big bell or something. Feels great. Mine has to say, now this is pod racing.
Starting point is 01:11:35 Can't see. Yeah, yeah, that's Yeah, we'll get to that Because they do the tunnel thing again Instead of doing a different action sequence They just do the tunnel thing again And also I'm like, you've missed an opportunity here Because this is the moment that you have them be in big trouble
Starting point is 01:11:50 You establish some like In your final action sequence You have to have a moment where it looks like the bad guy is going to win And this is the moment where you establish some tension But then through the choices that your characters have made I, i.e. recruiting Gal Godot and being merciful, they win because she should come back and save them
Starting point is 01:12:04 and she just doesn't. She's just not in a movie and she doesn't. I'm like, yeah, yeah. It's bad. The other problem is like, as cool an idea as the tunnels are, it is downright impossible to film. And it's hard to see what the fuck is going on at all. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it looks terrible.
Starting point is 01:12:21 I think at one point Dom presses triangle twice in rapid succession to jump to another guy's car. Yeah, from just cause. I think my note for this in terms of like how difficult this is to watch is, I described it as feeling like the opposite of ADHD meds. It kind of like knocks you out of your like concentration all the time because it can't hold a shot. And it's all jump cuts. Yeah, I can't see what's happening, you know.
Starting point is 01:12:51 It's really quite difficult to follow. But so the cars do car things in the tunnels. Many car things in the tunnels, yeah. Yeah. They crash out the other side. Phoenix is about to kill Paul Walker when Dom emerges and splass him with the car and calls him up and does him in like the guy in signs his wife. I do know that we have to kill all of the goons, right?
Starting point is 01:13:11 So all of the goons crash in the tunnel, which I guess does prove why they needed the street races they kill every time. But it does sound a bit like they're just feeding street races to guns at that point. Maybe that's why the tunnel's so complicated is because there's so many wrecks in it. You've got to go around. Yeah, I've had to seal up so many false ends. Don't cause a multi-car pile up.
Starting point is 01:13:33 He loses his iconic BDS. to charge a damn show. Terrible. Braga is like fine despite having been... I'll frame this as a question, right? Because I'm asking this to myself, really. Yeah. Is being in a car crash with your hands cuffed good for your wrists?
Starting point is 01:13:52 Is that like okay for you, do we think? Or... Because I'm kind of imagining that and I'm thinking it might be the worst thing ever. Yeah, I think that would suck. We could find out by cuffing you and putting you in a car. This is what I'm saying, right? That's why I'm asking ahead of times. I want to know, you know?
Starting point is 01:14:11 Yeah. Because I was figured the most likely way I was going to die would be like in the booth of a car that gets rear-ended. So this is a kind of, you know, a cousin to that, I guess. Anyway. Fucking Marcus Phoenix gets killed. Yeah. Yeah, he gets splattered.
Starting point is 01:14:27 Vin Diesel is like, oh, I could run, but I'll stay with you, Paul Walker. Yeah, the self-sacrifice lobe kicks in again. It really does. I'm sorry, two instances of Amazon trivia have just popped up and both of them are really good for different reasons. I'm going to start with a nice one first, which is Vin Diesel has revealed in several interviews that he's extremely close friends with Michelle Rodriguez
Starting point is 01:14:51 and that his children refer to her as aunt. That's nice. And second one, Paul Walker auditioned for the role of Anakin Skywalker in the prequel. But we're slightly too old to get it. And I'm like, what a world. You don't want to know that. You've got to see it.
Starting point is 01:15:06 You dodged a bullet with Hayden Christensen. But so... It's fine, man. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. When Phoenix dies, I write down, live by the car, die by the car,
Starting point is 01:15:16 which kind of isn't really anything, but it's in there. Finn Diesel gets arrested and tried. Yeah. He does, yeah. He's like, I ain't running anymore. There is a kind of funny bit where the judge is like, well, I understand that this FBI agent
Starting point is 01:15:31 vouches for you and you helped, you know, sort of bring a drug kingpin. into justice, 15 billion years in prison. Yeah, unfortunately, the court is like, yeah, I know that you really helped us bring down Braga, but unfortunately you are a supporter of Palestine action, so you're off to the supermax from Brambeau, too. You just break rocks. Good luck.
Starting point is 01:15:50 So another thing, another thing is when he's like standing there in his orange jumpsuit, the orange jumpsuit has been like tailored, it's snatched. They've clearly like tailored to Vin Diesel's body. He looks great. It's not like a baggy, like thing that's just like a one size fits all that they gave him. Like they've clearly like, they've tailored. that and made him look great. It's awesome. They sent him to 99 million years in prison.
Starting point is 01:16:09 He's like, take these chains off and say it again, right? And then they put him on a prison bus, which is legitimately going down the road from one battle after another. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It is. That's, I did the sort of like, the point. Like, yeah, it's the thing. It's that famous road. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:32 That road and I have the same stand on. It's a great fucking road. As he's resigning himself to like 99 billion years in state prison, Paul Walker and the original heist crew, minus Lattie, who's still dead at this point. Ledy's still dead, but they've got Mia. Yeah. Appear on the horizon in their fast cars with the implication that they're going to break Vindiesel out of prison.
Starting point is 01:16:59 They're going to do fugitive shit. And that's the movie. This movie says some, some. Bad things about masculinity. Like, you can dangle people out of windows if you're mad enough. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it does. You can kind of torture people if you're mad enough or just kind of impulsively, if it seems kind of fair to you.
Starting point is 01:17:17 But now here's what's important, though. You can be forgiven for any of that shit if you are sorry. Yes. Or if you aren't sorry or just say it. You don't even have to, like, reach out, really. You can just kind of be ambiently sorry for yourself and just wait around for, like, other people to get, back to you, unprompted and be like, hey, I forgive you for all that shit you did.
Starting point is 01:17:40 It's like, I, I, it would be a lot. Yeah, it would be a lot nicer if things worked that way. But unfortunately, it doesn't, you know, and this is a bad lesson to teach people. And yeah, it's like, it's trying to do it like found family shit and it just doesn't really work. It's not really solidified yet, no. No. No. And like, again, the way that it treats women.
Starting point is 01:18:05 Like in particular, this idea that like you can get in your sort of like roaring rampage of revenge if woman harmed, right? Like your woman. She's fridge. She gets fridge. She gets so free. That he's the only one I care about, man. And conversely, and conversely, you are always entitled kind of to the woman that you used to date one time under false pretenses. Right.
Starting point is 01:18:29 Yes. You always have a kind of like absolute right to be in her life. and it's her, like, juicy to forgive you. It's like... It's like, every woman in this movie is... Really? For sex. Yes.
Starting point is 01:18:42 It's for straight sex. Yes. Even the ones who are, like, gay are for straight men. Like, every... Like, Galgadot could have just, like, not been interested in Dom romantically. That would have been fine. And, like, but no, every woman in this movie has to be for sex. And it's like, do they think women don't watch these movies?
Starting point is 01:18:59 Yeah. I think they genuinely were working on that assumption. Like, yeah. I don't know. Of course, it ends in the classic, do not do Fast and Furious for at Home. Yeah. A disclaimer. That's really their jazz outro, I would say.
Starting point is 01:19:14 I love that. But we don't have to rate this movie subjectively because we have a science-based system. It's called the scum system. It's down to smarm, cultural insensitivity, unprovoked violence and misogyny. So, on a scale of zero to seven, how smarmy is fast and furious. This one's the toughest one, actually, I think. I didn't put a single drop because all the lines are just so fucking boring. The only one I would have suggested was just hands saying they're doing some crazy shit in Tokyo.
Starting point is 01:19:45 But that's like, there's nothing else even stands out to me. Paul Walker's just like, that's the car I would drive. That's a little smaller. Yeah. Yeah. Like two? I'd go to, yeah, sure. All right.
Starting point is 01:19:57 Cultural and sensitivity. Pretty high. Think the cockfighting is a point all in its own. Yeah. Yeah, the crimes of the First and Furious franchise against the proud nation of Mexico will be avenged in time. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Also, saying about the heist at the start in the Dominican Republic, like, oh, gas is gold down here.
Starting point is 01:20:17 I'm just like... Yeah. Dominican Republic is not mad max. It is a country. Yeah. No, it's... Again, it's kind of, kind of uncomfortable. Also, the fact that the villain is like a one-word Spanish motherfucker, I'm like, come man.
Starting point is 01:20:32 Yeah, we haven't... I think it's wrong. The C-Sen Yard guy from clear and present danger, and that was 20 years earlier. And that movie was made in like 1875 or whatever. Like, Napoleon was Master of Europe. Yeah. Do we feel it's more or less culturally insensitive than too fast, too furious? I said, forget about it.
Starting point is 01:20:52 Like, do we think it's on a path? Where's Roman? Roman. Yeah. Where's fucking Roman. I don't know. I mean, I think it does try to do the like racist. is bad because the racist FBI agent gets beaten up by Paul Walker at one point.
Starting point is 01:21:08 But like, it's not hugely... Yeah. The problem is he doesn't get beaten up for being racist. He gets being up for being angry that Paul let his suspect out that he'd taken in. Yeah, which is literally his job. I don't know, like three, four. I think it's on a par with too fasty furious, so I give it a four. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:28 Okay. Unprovoked violence is going to be higher. A little bit higher? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we get some torture, we get some, well, from both Dom and fucking Paul Walker. Yeah, dangling this guy out of a window and, like, let go of him. His intention was to kill this guy that he survived is just script. Being, like, kind of righteous, yeah, and it's, it is the movie, Have It's Cake and Eating It, in terms of, like, not killing him.
Starting point is 01:21:51 But, like, I don't know. I think almost dropping an engine block onto someone's head is pretty fucking violent. I think it is. I think it's more violent than the previous ones, certainly. I think that puts it into throw off like five five I would say yeah okay and finally misogyny
Starting point is 01:22:07 well I think the set dressing problem is as bad as ever it's not getting better than no like yeah and the one female character that was like cool and iconic from the first one they just kill they bring everyone else back yeah yeah yeah yeah I really want to to like hit it quite hard for the way that they treat Mia right
Starting point is 01:22:27 in the sense of like sheer kind of sexual and romantic entitlement there is, it's unconscionable, right? So I think we're in the punitive zone, certainly. Yeah, absolutely. Is it better or worse than Tokyo Drift, which had paedophilia? Hard to rank that. Like 8 or 9, basically, you know? It's a different direction.
Starting point is 01:22:52 I would say 8, I guess. I think I agree. That gives it a total score of 19, which is. is the worst one so far just. It's worse than Too Fast to Furious. They are getting worse, sadly. The climatic direction is worse. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:11 No. I, no, no awards on this one as well, because it was just a fount of mediocrity. Yeah, like, none of the henchmen did anything special. Like, not even Phoenix was really that interesting. No, I mean, I always appreciate the, like, hammer and sickle tattoo. To me, that's, that's wonderful, but like. They're no Ernesto.
Starting point is 01:23:29 No. No, absolutely not. My high point. Yeah. He owned so many Kronsteins as well. We didn't even get any technical Kronsteinsonson. Nobody attacks the driver of the vehicle they're in.
Starting point is 01:23:40 No. Fucked up. Awful. How do you fail that? So that means that the next one in the series is Fast Five. Yes. Which... I believe the movie's called Fast Five. It is called Fast Five.
Starting point is 01:23:53 Yeah. It's literally called that. Amazing. Yeah. We have one. two, three, four, five, six, seven, seven more of these, seven more of these. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there are 11 movies. Before the, before this movie,
Starting point is 01:24:13 there was like a prequel short film called Los Bandoleros. I just want to tell you, not worth watching, not interesting. We don't do short films. Who gives a fuck. I think, I think, I'm not, I'm not making any more work from myself,
Starting point is 01:24:27 given how many of these there are. So on that basis, isn't fast forever coming out as well? Yeah, 2028. Oh, okay. So we've got some time. Live show, 28, Live Show. Yeah, it's a right. Every new movie that comes out with Live Show, for sure.
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Starting point is 01:27:13 Cool. Panoptogoth, Carl S, future boy, Gwynnevere, Willie Shinmeyer, how you doing? Meat Popsicle, must be zip-tied. Must be? Fair enough. Get to it. Jet fuel can't melt these dreams. Vinifera, Asherin. Lionel Johnson can deep strike my deployment zone.
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Starting point is 01:28:21 Uh, da-di-da, I'll do that one, I'll do that for you, sweetie. Gender swap podcast Anhedonia, Science Daddy, Ray, Finn Ross, chimpled a sword, Christa Swisher, Daniel, Britain, April, planned obsolescent, lesbian. Amanda Freddy, Anya shenanigans, clairvoyance, clarification, rope trick, John 2089, Lady Ariane, Cascotch, Isobad gal, Triple D, the force-femming of Xander Cage. Nice. You don't get many Xanders. You don't get many Xanders. You get a lot of Alexander's, but nobody really has but temerity to force this. Alexander, when Alex is right there. Nobles Oblohy, Walscott, Alex. As stated it.
Starting point is 01:29:03 Oh, Alex, unfortunately you just became a punchline, and I didn't mean for that to happen, and neither did you. Liz and Ash at the University of Florida, Sengshan, Obsidian Polymer, Carriad, Abigail, Josh Simmons, Harriet McAvoy, Mistress Angela, A-Lis, Mega B, Robert Greensmith, Al Owing, Elite Erin, Magpie, sponsored by Toyota. Poyota. Zoe Shepherd. Philippa is still catching up with KJ. Beaver, Duck Whistpril, Lauren Basten, witch hazel, blunt force feminization bat, turfs eat shit and die alone. Emily Queen of Sloths, talkative tiger, Cassandra, Loz Picox, Sonia's going through it right now. Yeah, baby. I think everybody's having a bad time right now. I hope you feel better sooner, darling. Charlotte with a D. Merrill is not a vampire and has so much love now. Armored contempt and Valeria van officiouring, lurking, lesbian,
Starting point is 01:29:55 Thank you all for your support. Kill James Bond is, as always, Devin and my two friends, Abigail, in November. The producer is the wonderful Miss Nate Perthay. Our podcast art is by John DeLuca. Our website is by Tom Allen, and I will see you next time.

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