Kill James Bond! - S4E42: Baby Driver

Episode Date: June 26, 2026

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And the thing is, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna continue to like kiss and shake hands with and lick everyone. You're doing the particles diagram every time you mean. Yeah, every time, every time. I gotta stop getting women to like, you know, cough on me, but I won't stop. Walking up to someone, I'm putting my hand forward for a handshake. The whole time I'm thinking about the particles diagram. Thank you for blasting me, sir. Here are my particles.

Yeah, you just got to cough. you have a bunch before you shake hands with me. Right. Who's shaking hands in the step? Anyway, right. I'm just doing elbows. I'm doing the, like, you know, foot to foot thing, like Joe Biden. The foot stuff is good.

Okay. We can leave all of that in. Hello and welcome to another episode of Kill James Bond. I am November Kelly. I am joined, as always, by my friends Abigail Thorne and Devon. Hello. Cowabunga. It's a low-energy.

Negative cowabunger. Oh, dear. It's too hot. It's too hot for a high-energy Calabung for one thing, but also... It's hotter there than it is here. It is, yeah. It's 16 degrees Celsius.

I'm currently in San Francisco for Bound... for fucking Frameline, the LGBTQ Film Festival. Yeah, it's 16 degrees and mild here. You lucky bitch. I know. Every single person I know is texting me, who lives in London, texting me saying, shoot me with a gun.

And I won't do it. A vindictive Kirstama has got his hands on the weather machine. He's trying to sweat us out. I don't know why. He's going to be Prime Minister forever. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Now and forever Prime Minister, Kirstama.

Any need for current Prime Minister, Keir Stama, to do that. Yeah. 6pm on the 21st, I can say pretty confidently, Kirstama is going to be Prime Minister for, you know, decades. At least another 24 hours. Definitely, when the episode comes out, he'll still Prime Minister. That's for sure. Oh, yeah.

No, for sure. I don't even know what this would look like. Who would replace him on this West Street? Come on. No, I don't know. Al Carnes, maybe. Garin Jones? No.

I'm manic. I'm fucking manic. We're back to heist season. And I thought it would be fun for us to approach heist season by way of some of the more car-centric heists. So we're staying broadly within some of Dom Torreto's arc of protection. And this is an episode that I really, really conceptualized as eating my vegetables before I had my dessert

because we are doing... Oh, my God. Edgar Wright's baby driver. Yeah. You've been down too long in the midnight seat. This is one of the most annoying films I've ever seen in my entire life. Oh, yeah. I think that's a little hard. It was a little annoying, but, you know, it's well made. People got paid. Like, I have some big criticisms of it.

It's a movie you can watch. It's true. People didn't get paid to make it. Could watch it on a plane. You can get very granular. People showed up to work. They had a good time at work. The best grip, you know. the key boy or whatever they had a wonderful time movie really bad movie not good i love that when abby's sort of determination to be positive leads sort of thing is like well they didn't employ slaves they didn't use slavery as far as i know as i know they didn't um yeah no don't write in if they did this is no there's no ai in this because it was too early for that like this is only people can be this annoying authentic. I kind of liked the opening sequence of this.

I think they could have cut it off just before the titles hit, and it would have been a really lovely, like, maybe five minute, just a short video, a music. And that was it. You're so right about that. Oh, God damn. Yeah. Yeah.

Because the thing is, we begin with a heist. We begin with a bank robbery. And it is scored to music, the Fabulous Bellbossum. And I write down, robbery is so cool. I wish it were real. Yes. And we see that the getaway driver is not your standard getaway driver, whose main role in the heist movie is to get shot in the head, right?

He does things a little bit differently. And again, there's no possible political valence to this because Kirstama is going to be a prime minister forever. But as someone who does things a little bit differently, we see that he's on his iPod, he's listening to music, he's so jacked in, he's like making the car dance. He's like hitting the windscreen wipers and shit. He's jamming out.

Yeah. He's rocking out to tunes. Well, they're in the bank robbing the place. There's a funny little detail, which is when the car pulls up, we see its wheel, and it has Ferrari break calipers. But then it's a Subaru, which I thought was quite a, it was quite a, it was a cute, cute little moment, which I quite like. One of the robbers is John Hamm. Yeah, you got John Hamm. Guy I love to see.

Guy, immediately, you're excited to see. Guy, guy whose podcast, you don't want to ask too much about the guests on. Yeah, sure. It's so hard to talk about anyone who's active modern day because everyone's insane nowadays. That's the problem. John Bernthor, a guy who was kind of radicalized by playing The Punisher, which is one of the funniest things that can happen to you at work, is to kind of low-key start believing that you are also the troops and then to have like a tactical operator podcast where you talk about how cool the IDF is. Oh, no.

Oh, I'm sad to find out that. I really liked him as the Punisher. Oh, no. So did I, but the thing is... I like John Bernthel and almost everything I see him in, so it's really heartbreaking to hear that. I kind of think that John Bernthel plays the Punisher so perfectly because he does authentically think that the Punisher is the good guy.

There is no weaking in that depiction whatsoever. He's like, you're goddamn right, I'm the Punisher. But yeah, so they're robbing the bank. Yeah. And they get out of the bank into the guessaway car, and John Bernthor hits the like, you know, forwards, Jeeves thing. But because our guy,

Ansel Elgort, by the way, does things a little bit differently, he reverses into a J-turn. His neurodivergent special interest, this quirked-top white boy, he's also like 12. Yeah, yeah. His neurodivorgent special interest is out driving the cops. And it turns out he's like a sick fucking driving.

He's like drifting, he's like doing all kinds of fucking sick moves in the car. It's great. It's really well shot. It's fun. It's to the tune of the music as well. It's all synced up. It's all synced up.

It's really, really tightly and kind of flashily edited. And the thing is that this movie actually does authentically really like the cars and the stunts and the driving. And it communicates all of those things better than the Fast and Furious movies have done for a long time. Despite being in some ways goofy. And so this first chase sequence, immaculate. This is a museum. There's a beautiful, beautiful piece of stunt driving, like sliding between, like, moving trucks. Fantastic.

The joke of the robbers in the back getting into the driving has been funny since the transporter won and it's still funny. They'd just be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, what? Like yelling the whole time while he's driving and it's slowly starting to be like,

yeah, man, this is going great. Like, it's good, it's great fun. And as I say, stop the movie here. Great short film, great music video for bell bottoms. Mm-hmm. Little Subaru ads by Edgar Wright. Because it's when you flash up directed by Edgar Wright,

and you get the second scene, which is the driver, the guessway driver, maybe dancing through the streets of the city, you realize, as this is also set to music and also very flashly edited, that the whole two hours is going to be like this. It's going to be like this. Yeah, I mean, we've seen films on this podcast before that are just like, like a series of music videos stitched together. And I'd say this is a very strong example of that.

There is also a story. It's like the highest end of the kind of point break remake to Baby Driver's Spectrum. But it is a music video-ass movie. So we see this kid autistic oral farming, his way down the street, dancing. He goes into a cafe. As we say, his name is Baby. And he comes, oh, by the way, listeners, we are in Atlanta, Georgia. Yes.

Because it used to have very good tax. breaks for filming in does not anymore or rather does but actually Britain undercut it there were a lot of no that it's true

actually because all the Marvel stuff used to be filmed in Atlanta Georgia and like a lot of stuff was filmed there but Marvel has now recently pulled out and films everything in the UK because immigrant workers can use the NHS and so they don't have to pay health insurance

for all that's awesome if you're a real head and you stay for the credits you'll remember seeing the little peach logo of visit Georgia thing because Georgia gave them the tax breaks to do this. Hornology, they don't do that anymore. Like Atlanta,

Atlanta film industry has been fucking devastated. Thanks in large part to policies undertaken by current Prime Minister, Kirsta. Current and forever. And forever. I have some more thoughts about Atlanta in this movie later on, but I think it is important

for the movie's vision that it be in America. Definitely. Yes. I think this is a piece of Americana. I think as much as it is, several music videos stitched together. It's also musical.

It's also like Edgar Wright really working through some stuff in relation to like Greece or Westside story and women and women and women the thing is right is as this is set to music and as the next scene is set to music

I realize that there's something I don't like about this right which is not just that it's unsubtle right because I can like an unsuttle movie it's that I find it kind of juvenile it's the kind of way that I used to listen to music when I was like 14, when I was listening to like Black Rebel Motorcycle Club and going, yo, you could soundtrack a heist to this so fucking good. And, okay, Edgar Wright actually went out and actually did that,

which, you know, gives him a sort of like, you know, march on me. But this is really fucking annoying to watch. I have to be so annoying. It gets old after a little while, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think of a different word, but it's like, it is, it's like there's really interesting camera work and there are long pans and it like, It's all to the music, and it's all technically very well done, but again, it all goes towards this very tweed and grating.

There's a great show reel for everyone who worked on it. It's going on the show reel. There is also a bit in this montage where he does perfectly hit the driving frida, and that hits different in 2026. So he gets back to the hideout. At this point, I notice that Ansel Elkhort looks... dispiritingly, confusingly, alarmingly like Charlie Kirk from the side. And there are a few shots in this in profile where, yeah, I think he's been slightly Kirkified and it fries me.

Okay. But in the hideout is Kevin Spacey's there. Here's our big boss, Kevin Spacey. Kevin Spacey. This was 2017. This was something like just prior to Kevin Spacey revelations. It must have been pretty close. moments before it yeah i mean listen this is as close as we're getting to an all-canceled cast we

keep making that joke about it but ansel elgort also had some allegations on him texting texting underage teenagers bad look just don't do it i wonder why i hadn't seen him in anything else he's been on tv he was in tokyo vice which is good um but but so john bernthor is like um giving him a hard time because i i guess he says as we will see kind of correct this kid thinks he's better than us. This kid's annoying. And he doesn't talk. He only listens to his iPod with the wired headphones.

And no one seems to be getting the prospect that fucking Terminator X speaks with his hands, right? The driving is the talking. You saw him drive just now. Yeah. He's a neurodivergent king. I mean, he's kind of implied to be, but we will see later on he is not neurodivirgin. And I think that's a fucking cowardly choice, but all right? Yeah, it's crazy.

he's so obviously neurodivergent. Yeah, because John Berthel does begin by calling him the R-sler, to which Kevin Spacey's repast is, was he slow? Kevin, Kevin Spacey basically hits a like, well, gay means happy, so you're calling me happy, and I am kind of thing, but it's like, is he slow?

The R-word means slow, was he slow? Just remember the phrasing, I don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like getting in his face. Yeah, yeah. Meanwhile, John Hamm and his partner are, like, like getting off on crime, they're like, like, grinding on each other and shit. They're so loved up, yeah.

Hybridithophilia. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, I mean, as John Bertha was like, there's, there is a great bit here where he slapped two pairs of sunglasses off him in sequence and our boy baby goes for the third pair of sunglasses that he also had on him. That's just funny. That's just straightforwardly a joke.

He does think he's better than you. Yeah, he does. When he's putting the sunglasses back on, he's definitely like, he's kind of right. He's mugging you. I'm not going to say Edgar. right, isn't good at landing a joke because he is. But so, yeah, John Berthel's point here is, one day, this whole life of crime thing,

you're going to have to kill someone and get blood on your hands. And it's hitting the same kind of thing as sexy beast is, right? Where it's like crime sucks because you have to hang out with people who are annoying. Only in this case, instead of the worst, like, South London geese, as you can imagine, it's the PDA couple, the, the Royd Monster masculinity podcaster, and Kevin Spacey, which is worse. It really is just like a nightmare blunt rotation.

Yeah, terrible. Sink that up in the edit. We also learn that he is in debt to Kevin Spacey because his share of the heist is like 10 p. And Kevin Spacey's like, one more job, and then your debt is paid and you'll be out, baby. Yeah, yeah. The baby's like, oh, God damn.

The gang separate. You know, John Bernthal leaves the movie with the line. If you don't see me again, it's because I'm dead, which is how I sign off after every recording. and we see the baby goes home. At this point, I crucially forget the acronym Coda, child of deaf adults, and write down in my notes in full earnest,

oh, he's a foyd or whatever. Okay. All right. He's not a foyd. He's simply not. He's not a void. Which is not what those things mean. No.

But he is caretaker to his foster father. Okay, okay. Yes. They speak ASL to each other. So he actually does speak with his hands. Yeah. Yeah. They set this up.

They don't do anything with it. I also think it's kind of cynical to give him a black father figure in a movie about so far all white criminals doing crime in Atlanta. We will get into that later. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But so he goes into his room and Baby makes a remix. of the sample that he secretly recorded of John Bernthel saying the R-Words. I felt like I was having a stroke at this point

trying to watch this fucking movie, which is like three soundtrack scenes and then Baby Driver is honest to God remixing being called the R-word by John Bernthel and Kevin Spacey. Yeah, he makes a kind of pretty sick fucking remix of it too. Yeah, it's kind of sick, but brother, they're not going to like recording... That you recorded the criminal meaning.

The crime thing. In the words of totemic figure Stringer Bell, are you making mixtapes on a motherfucking criminal conspiracy? Don't do that. However, I will say it is iconically transgender to get home from work, go into your bedroom,

and immediately start like fucking about on a synth with a sample you took of your boss calling you the R word. Yeah, yeah, it's really, really good, yeah. That's very transgender of me. Also, we see that he's got like a hundred of these tapes. He's made loads of these. Yeah.

one of which is labeled dead mom. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Back story. Yeah. We see a little flashback of his parents arguing in the car, and it's like, oh, okay, there was a car crash at some point. All right, fine. But earlier on, he saw a very pretty girl walk by in the street,

and so he goes to a diner, and he sees that same girl come in. And then, so... And she's singing something. She is. Yeah, it's weird that this is like the authentic 50s Americana diner as well. Yeah, it's, yeah, not ever commented on. This is Lily James, by the way. It's also crazy that she's white.

It's crazy that she's white, and I'm going to explain why. Everyone's white. It is crazy that she's white. Atlanta, Georgia is 39% white, 47% black. It's like the black capital of the United States. It's like a huge amount of art and culture, all of the significant. of that and because this movie, because Atlanta is not a place but a tax credit

to this movie, it's just like yeah, sure, that doesn't figure. And because we have to work out this kind of 50s Americana thing and you didn't stop to think, is there any racial dimension to this 50s Americana thing that I'm trying to work out here? Probably not. It's fine.

Yeah, so this is Deborah and I will say great performance, great performance of Lillet James, like, smashes it, compelling. The best that she could with what she was getting. and I'll say that. Hand on heart. But, okay.

She's not given a ton. No. I might as say, I love it when the waitress is a manic pixie dream girl who immediately spills her guts to me because I'm the protagonist of reality. And like, we get this scene. Deborah's dialogue in this scene is she comes over

and she starts flirting the baby. And she just like tells him everything about herself. She's like, I love this. I love music. I love it. She just like completely tells us her entire backstory like my mom was from here, my dad was from here. And I feel like I can see through the fucking Matrix code

and understand the studio note that Edgar Wright must have got because this feels like a scene that has resulted from someone saying, hey, the female character in this movie, your female lead is kind of flat and like doesn't have anything going for and it's just kind of an extension of the main character. Can you make it more of a 3D person? And so he's just like dumped her in touch. she just like walks into the movie

and announces her entire shit and then none of that shit fucking matters to the rest of the movie and like I apologize if that's not what's happening but it really it's honestly hilarious to watch this scene how did you out in the right and get to this place then?

She goes it's my dream one day to just hit the road and listen to music and the car the whole way and baby driver's like that's actually so fascinating could you imagine that's what I want to do as well yeah yeah it's really really funny the way this movie treats listening to music as a niche.

It's not even particularly like esoteric music. It's just it really needs you to believe. You would need Edgar Wright to have an esoteric music taste to make that fucking work. So it's just bass, like surface. Yeah. Yeah. It's very much just like, yo, you like music?

We are now actually like we're in something together. Right. But it's, it's so funny. It's just like walking and now. explicitly your entire shit continue with movie it's a fucking player and baby

baby driver baby driver is like yo I actually drive for work but I hate it and I would also like maybe to just like drive off into the sunset with you also her badge has her dead name on it which is also a transgender moment

I thought it was too it's a shame she's not trans or black yeah so he gets he gets called back into work yes And we see that Kevin Spacey is the mastermind At each time he has a slightly different crew And this time we have a wain grow And we have a wain grow

It's weird how every time there's a wain grow John Bernthel, Wayne grow Like guy we're about to see, Wayne grow, this is a three Waingrove movie It's like three courses of wain grow I swear to God This is Jamie Fox by the way Who is playing wain grow, I don't know

Oh it's not yet This is, I mean, what we have I guess this is the crew with two wainsgros for a second. This is a double wangro crew. You're so right. You'd hate to have a double wangro situation. Okay, yeah, no. There's a different guy first who,

who's, everyone's got a little line. Everyone's got a little fucking line. There's a guy who's got no-nose, right? And he gets asked, why doesn't he have a nose? And he goes, ah, that's one of the no-nose, no-nose.

And then it just leaves him alone, moves on to the next guy who's gotten hate written on his neck at some point as a tattoo. And he's like blocked out the last E. to like get work or whatever and baby goes, how's that working out for you?

And he goes, who doesn't like hats? Everyone's got a little fucking line. This guy, the first Wayne Groh is JD. He is. It does get a pleasing line because Kevin's face

he says he put the Asian in home invasion, which is kind of funny. And then the second Wayne Crow, Jamie Fox. Yeah, boss way. Jamie Fox.

Remembered that black people live in Atlanta and so. being a black character in the movie. Cool. I hope he's not the worst psycho you can imagine. Yeah. I like this performance. It's a good performance for Joe Fox. Yeah. Again, they give him a hard time.

It's sort of like this is the problem with shifting around the cruises. It's always your first day at work, right? So always one of these guys is like, yo, why does this guy listen to the, like, iPod all the time? Yeah. And in this case, Kevin Spacey shuts them down by saying that he was sort of the car's version of the Ghost of Keeve. Yeah.

He was a notorious joyrider called The Spirit of 85 Okay Awesome Awesome Sure Well we learned that he stole Kevin Spacey's car When he was kid

Not knowing that Kevin Spacey was Mr. Crimes And Kevin Spacey was like In order to pay off the debt Of the car Come and work for me But also like baby has He has tinnitus And that's why he listens to music all the time

To drown it out It's like okay He does He has tinnitus to drown it out We really, Kevin Spacey really hustles through the exposition here, which I appreciate, despite the fact that it's a two-hour movie. Because again, you've got to imagine this happens at the start of every heist. Yeah, he's got tonight as he listens to the music.

He drives good as fuck, shut up. Let's do the heist. Easier to get it printed on a t-shirt at that point. That's my boy, baby. We love him. Hey, baby. Have some little cards made up like Joker. Just like, you know, sorry about being disabled.

Please excuse my coolness. I apologize for party rocking. Just handing over your backstory card. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Deborah should have done that, too. It's just written that shit down.

I just handed it over. The deal is, they are robbing this armored car, right? And they have to get the Michael Myers masks from Halloween, you know, spooky, like, killer masks.

Yeah. And then we cut to the day of the heist. Sorry, they do something fucking great. They do another moment here with the Wayne growing, where Baby is, obviously, he's got sunglasses on, and his headphones in throughout the whole explanation. So Jamie Fox is like,

did this guy hear a fucking word? Like, what is going on here? And then we get it. Like, no, he can actually lip read. This is something that's really important to baby. Is he able to lip read? So later on, something's going to come up and he's going to have to lip read it

in order to like win the movie. Yeah, I assume. Just, yeah, no, nope. Never fucking touches it. They spend like five full minutes just being like, this guy can lip read and it's awesome. Because he just reads.

He states the whole thing, the whole crime out. He heard it all perfectly, yeah. Yeah. I don't hate that necessarily, but so we pay off the Mike Myers joke because the all of them have, because the Wayne Groh got the masks, the first Wayne Groh, JD. Wangro won. Yeah. And he bought Austin Powers masks.

Because Mike Myers. Mike Myers. Trek. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kind of funny. Like, okay. Yeah, sure. And we see, we see that as they go in, baby like,

the car forward a bit, taking us and the frame away from the violence of them pistol whipping the guard, because he doesn't want to see it, because he does think he's better than them, which I like... Jamie does, he's like, I'm not into this. When he sees the body, because Jamie Fox is a little bit of a Wayne growl listeners, and he commits some violence on the guard, and we see the baby sees the body, and it's a bit like, oh, whoa, whoa, shit, he's a bit worried about it. But as they make their escape, a member of the public decides I'm going to go up tier one operator

mode here. It's time for me to be the good guy with a gun. I'm the guy today. I'm going to be the punisher. Every American has this in them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Specifically, we do a bit of like hashtag environmental storytelling as to why he's the guy in that he has a big Marines sticker on his truck and he has a marine crest on his hat.

And he also has a pistol and an MP5K just ready to go, which you do have to concede that dudes rock on. I don't know if I do. I don't know if I do. I believe that's a dude rocking. No, no, no. The submachine gun on the passenger's side of the car, that is, that is dudes rock to me. I think this man is a danger to others than himself.

Well, that too. He's a Marine, yeah. He is a Marine. Where they are when they do this heist, it's just a drive-through ATM. Now, this is something that I understand that Americans have. Yeah. We don't have that because that's insane. Just want to let our American audience know, but that's not a normal thing to have.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everything's drive-through here. Drive-through bank. What are you doing? Yeah, yeah. Also, the correct response to anyone with the, you know, Marines decal on the truck and the Marines hat and, you know, the Marines merch and the Marines limited edition sneakers or whatever. Just to give them 5% off anything. You know, regardless of whether or not they're firing a submachine gun at you, you have to deploy the hell of a way line that is always a one hit kill, which is if you liked it that much, why aren't you still there?

Right. Why are you at the drive-in ATM in Atlanta, Georgia? Why aren't you still in if you liked it that much? Yeah. Got tired of eating crayons. Yeah. So Jamie Fox is about to like effortlessly dome off this Marine. And Baby gets cold feet at the prospect of this violence

and like swerves the car so that he misses. Yeah, yeah. And then unmolested by them in any way, this Marine just on his own, full force rolls his like pickup truck down an embankment to, I guess his death or serious injury. Because we see him on the news later, but yeah, he stops chasing. The robbery goes slightly wrong. They end up having to jack this other lady's truck in order to escape.

And there's a baby in the car as well and like baby. Yeah, like baby from driver. Stridermoresey, like hands it over. Oh, take the baby. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Jamie Fox, because he's the wangroes, fully on board with like kidnapping a baby. Yeah. Than just like taking the extra second to throw the baby out of the thing.

But Jamie Fox, there's a bit earlier on where he down there looks, straight at the camera and goes, I'm the Waingrove, by the way. Because he says, like, I'm the one got mental problems in this group. Like, that's the straight line. Thank you. I'm always saying this. Yeah. And later on, when they get back, Jamie Fox asks Baby, he's like, hey, did you make me miss

when I was going to shoot the Marine? And baby's like, no, no, I didn't. Jamie Fox points a gun at him. He's like, I know you're lying. Like, don't, don't fuck with me. Wayne Grove 1 fucked up so bad because he left his shotgun behind. He did. It's over for Wayne Grove 1. 1 straight up. Yeah, and so when they send baby, the one member of the crew who doesn't wear a mask to the robberies to go out in public and get the coffees, in the time that they do that, Wengro 1 disappears. And so when Kevin Spacey is like paying him off afterwards, he's like, hey, congratulations, you did it, we're square now. Notably does not say you can stop working for me, but get rid of this car with Waingro 1's body in the trunk. This is a GTA game. This is a movie made by somebody who played to.

much GTA. This is like, they included the filler missions, even. Yeah, go get JD's car crushed. Cool. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. And he does. We see that he's disturbed by the death. In particular, like, the sight of a, of, I guess, the knowledge that there is a body in this car being crushed, causes him to flashback to the tragic backstory, the car crash he was in that made him neurodivergent. She guess there's a little bit like that car crash that Jason Momoa was in that made him gay? It's, the car crash that made him neurodivergent, by the way, is so crazy, because it's just like the, the,

two parents are like screaming at each other in the front and they're like turning around and screaming at him and I look it back at each other and then they they get done in like the cheating husband at the start of the descent. Big truck. I very much want to contrast this car crash that makes you neurodivergent with another car crash that makes you neurodivergent in Titan, which we will watch I suspect in the very near future. Yeah, let's do Titan actually. It might be my pick for like bonus episode even.

It's not a truck movie at all, but it is at all. We don't need to be locked on the truck thing. I think we've fucking managed truck now. We've like hit it. I think it's an instructive enough contrast that maybe I want a Dutti Tan for my pick. But so, yeah. Anyway, I really don't like this backstory because it's a really, strikes me as a really cynical depiction of like a kind of abusive father figure as well.

Yeah, because it's like, oh, he listened to the music to drown out his father just yelling. His mother was like a singer or something. She's like a 50-style singer, which I guess is wearing some of his taste from. We see him go on some dates with Deborah and he explains all this to her. And she's like, damn, that's crazy. I'm also, and then just like makes white noise from her mouth. She exists as a dipstick to tell how like where baby is morally right now and he's in good at the moment. So she's happy.

The one bit is that she flinches a bit when the chef yells at her. So it's like, oh, yeah, they're both victims of like male violence or whatever, which. But also, crucially, he's his mum, right? Because one of the other waitresses just says casually, oh, yeah, I think he used to come in, he's been coming over ages, I think his mum used to work here. Ah, yeah, that's no good. I don't like that girlfriend is replacement mum.

Yeah. I don't like that. Girlfriend is replacement mum, for sure. We're infantilising baby because Edgar Wright cannot turn down a pun. And so, because he's baby driver, right, he, like, accidentally orders off the kids' menu the first time he's in there, despite having been in the years beforehand. I'm baby driver.

Yeah, there's a ton of like baby jokes in here. It's like, oh, yeah, okay, so this guy, he's not the threatening kind of man because he's a child and she's his mother. Particularly annoying line. Yeah. Where he, she says her name's Deborah and he tries to think of like a song that's about Deborah and then reveals that his name is baby. And she goes, wow, you win. Like every song in the world is about you. Yeah.

So when they're talking about like, oh, there's not that many songs about Deborah. I'm like, what about the song Year 2000? Hello? Come on. Notably, he's not hip enough to know who Beck is because she references Beck. Or how to pronounce the band T-Rex. He says Rex, presumably because he's like only seen it on the iPod. But whatever.

You've not looked into T-Rexes? Check them out. They're so fucking sick. If you've never seen a T-Rex before somehow, go ahead and look that out. How did you not have a dinosaur phase as a channel? It's gonna blow you on mind. This is gonna be so sick. If you're like a young child, right,

and you're getting a serious car accident, your brain at that age is full of dinosaur fact. You're never more primed to get like total dinosaur out. Absolutely. Oh shit, just forgot everything about dinosaurs. Unless you were a paleontologists. I love the idea of adult who's never heard of dinosaurs before. I was like, wait, you tell me, what?

These things rule the earth. That's crazy. That's crazy. When? No, absolutely. This is why, in fact, I think we like to teach kids, dinosaur factors because everything happens to your brain when you're a kid.

You know, what are you going to lose? The dinosaur stuff, fine. You know, that's not going to be too impactful. The dinosaur stuff is not super relevant for like day to day. Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. Guy who thinks Jurassic Park was about like Sasquatches and cryptids and shit. And it's just like, wait, what? These things are real?

That's crazy. That's crazy. So she, she takes him to a laundromats because she has to run errands. Yeah. Yeah. And he asks to take her on a date to somewhere that he's, overheard PDA couple Buddy and Darling

talking about going to celebrate after the heist. Yeah. I think as well, we're stepping out of the kind of Americana fancy, right? Of diner and laundromats two places that there still are a lot of in America that still look like this.

He's trying to get out of rockabilly America and go to like, you know, restaurant America. Yeah. They go to a fancy restaurant and then they have a sinner, but who should pay the bill, but cancelled actor Kevin Spacey. He says, hey, buddy, we're

not done, you could make a lot of money if you keep working for me, and baby's like, no, I don't think so I want to just kind of like get out of rockabooly America and do honest work. That's awesome. How are you going to do that with no knees, pal? Yeah, what if I cut your fucking arms? Okay, that's a really interesting proposition,

brother. Yeah, what if I kill everyone you know? We've skipped ahead a little bit, right? because there's a little bit. We miss the whole pizza DLC, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so they go.

He does the pizza delivery Spider-Man missions and he's like, fuck, these are too hard. I'm not doing it. Yeah, the reason why I feel like I have to explain the pizza thing is to set up one of Kevin Spacey's lines here, right? Which is, so he goes to him and his dad is like, wouldn't it be good

to do a kind of driving where you brought joy to people rather than crimes? So he gets the job for Goodfellers, pizza, right, bringing joy to people because there's no exploitation. It's awesome. It's Goodfellas. And then, like, they just put the Goodfellas logo, like, front and center of a screen as much as possible. It's like, yeah, I saw it, man. I saw that. I thought it was funny. Yeah. Then he uses his pizza money to take, to take Deborah to this

nice restaurant. And they play Hall and Oats, No Can Do, which always fucks me up because it makes me think someone is playing Delisole, say no go at the wrong speed. And both of of them are like playing with the rims of their glasses, like people who like music would. This is... So much of this movie is the creative people when memes. Oh God! It's all that. You're so right.

But here's the thing. Here's the thing about Kevin Spacey. Kevin Spacey might 15 second long bleat because he beat the case. But I do as an actor respect him 0.01% percent. more for refusing to engage with how stupid the read the line demands is. Because the line is, and it's a pun, because Edgar Wright can't turn one of those down, the line is, why slave away delivering Goodfellas pizzas when you could make all that dough with a great fella?

Now, you notice how I lingered a bit on dough because of the pizza, and I put the emphasis on great fella to, you know, make the piece. pun. Me. Yeah. He doesn't. He doesn't do either of those things. Just refuses to engage with the material and just reads the line like monotone. Fantastic. I love that. Thank you, Kevin Spacey. Strong choice. Yeah.

Deborah is down outrageous. Yeah. After like one date, she is just like come up for coffee, like, fuck, fuck me. And baby's like, I, you know, I'm riseless. I'm a ris vacuum. I talked to Big Game and then I'm shy actually I'm at Rizzless I come in several different sizes

and different colors on the packet Yeah But he's worried about Kevin Spacey I guess So I'm sure Yeah and he's right to be Because they're gonna rob the post office Yeah he's correct to be worried about Kevin Spacey

Yeah because Kevin Spacey Immediately like Calls him and it's like Hey remember the whole thing about me Breaking Your Arms or whatever I mean I could do some more pizza puns or whatever You want to come out and help scout the location for me a little bit.

And the location, the location is one of the, I will say, least robbable places in the world. A United States post office. Don't do that. I'm not going to be one of those people who hips up the postal inspectors, but like, fucking with the mail is what they kill you for. That's been true since, like, Genghis Khan. That's like, that's the state capacity. It's a hype thing that's become a kind of.

of well-known factoid as the US postal inspectors have like a 98% clearance rate for crime. Wow. Oh shit, they get you. Yeah, for real. Yeah, no, it's absolutely like to the point of becoming a meme, fucking with the postal service, which is something you could do incidentally in a way that doesn't seem serious, is a 100% pound me in the ass federal crime. And it's something that they legitimately do care about.

Yeah. So, yeah, I'm not convinced of the wisdom of this plan. but the plan is... We're going to go directly for interstate commerce. Yeah, that'll be awesome, man. That'll be so cool. It's like, instead of whichever, like, fuck-ass local police department you would otherwise have,

you want to get the feds involved, and specifically the kind of feds who think about nothing but the integrity of the male, that's a level of autism you never want pointed in your direction. That's crazy. That's crazy. Yeah, sure. It's really more integrity of the female.

It's not really... Doesn't really work. Weird kind of subtype of turf who's determined to protect male spaces from trans men, just like thinking about it all the time. M-A-I-L, yeah, spaces, and determined to protect male spaces, yeah. But, so Kevin Spacey's plan is he wants, he wants Baby to take his stupid Chud nephew. Take my Chud Nephew into the bank and, like, scout it out, find out how many security cameras are,

what, yeah, like, heist shit, you know, have a look around. Yeah. Yeah, and the, the gag is that the little kid is much better at it than baby, so he's like, they've got this many cameras and so on. He talks to the teller, right? Who is nice to him, and she also goes, and is white, and is white, and again is white, and again is white, and goes, yo, it's crazy that you love music. I love music. A thing not many people do, but I've just got some, like, Dolly Parton up here.

It's the food of love. I tell you, 99% of a time I've got headphones in. I have to take them out to talk to people. Almost no one starts the conversation with, oh shit, are you listening to music? I've checked out some music myself recently. We've all become baby driver because we're all on our headphones. Crazy.

Yeah, I'm baby driver just listening to Baker Street over and over again. But so baby is like kind of affected by this because, you know, Other people can like music, one of the arts. That's crazy. Wow. Kevin Spacey, after they've scouted the place, Kevin Spacey drives him home

without asking where he lives. So he's like, you live here with your death foster dad, don't you? That's crazy. Have fun on your date with your exposition girlfriend. Don't do anything or I'll fucking kill you. Yeah, he does a lot of kind of menacing lines like this, kind of really jealous, abusive stuff.

I don't know how he got so good at delivering those so convincingly. Yeah, really. To me, that's a complete misconduct. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's probably because of just like cut over. Clear of all charges. Yeah, that's probably because of... Current Prime Minister Kirstalma, currently working actor Kevin Spacey.

Yeah. It's crazy how the guy who was on Star Trek Discovery, like, sued him and not only lost but got his life ruined. That's... Wow. Looking forward to seeing Kevin Spacey's one-man Frank Sinatra show in Televue. Well, hey, at least he kept the life, which is not what... happens to a lot of people who accused Kevin Spacey of things.

They did not survive. For I guess no reason because they have never ever prevailed in court. So that's the only conclusion that you can draw. I guess that terrifying video he released at Christmas was just correct, just accurate. The whole thing was just true. Yeah. Yeah.

Just nothing going on there. This guy is protected on high by the Prince of Fucking darkness is a line that they said about him in a movie. And anyway, uh, the crew is it's oops all wangros. Oops all wangros.

I'm pouring out all wangress on the ones. Oh, you'd hate to have the wain grow configuration. Yeah. Yeah.

If I was putting together a heist crew, I'd want to avoid this. But we've got John Hamm, he's back, and so is darling. And so is Jamie Fox bats. And they're all just assholes.

Yeah. So we've got like the PDA couple and the gigantic psychopath. Yeah. And then the gigantic psychopath. So just before this baby rings up to everybody to go, hey, I'm taking you and run into the hills

and it's going to happen very, very soon. Stay on Pins 2 a.m. It's happened. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And during the briefing, Jamie Fox is like, I hate music, actually. I hate it. He legit. That's crazy how he's like, fuck music.

It's like trying to write a Dom Toreto body. I hate family. Music soothes the savage beast, and I hate it. Oh, I hate it sucks. At America and music. Yeah. I read novels. I never listen to music while I'm doing anything else.

No. I only listen to discordant polyrhythms. It's not helpful to do anything to it. You know that old atonal music. I've been in some discordant polyrhythms, I tell you. Yeah. Industrial sounds. I want to listen to Arvo part while I'm at the thing.

But the thing is, the thing is that's beautiful about this, is that they know just about that it's not plausible to have a guy who's like, I hate the concept of music itself. So his position is, yeah, I'll listen to music after the heist, but it's like irresponsible to heist and listen to music because the situational awareness will be diminished, which is true. That's just true. That's flatly correct.

What if something comes at you that you can't respond to within the tune of the song? What are you going to do, baby? You're fucked if that happens. So buddy John Hamm bonds with him over this because he's like listening to Queen with him. against surface. To which batts Jamie Fox essentially calls them faggots because he hates music.

At which point, Kevin Spacey calls them in and he's like, listen, the postal service is dying and I'm like, fuck you, give up,

still holds up. The district sleeps alone at night. Great. You know, a ton of great songs. Anyway, so the planners, they're going to rob the place

using these special glasses that, like, have flashlights on the outside that blinds. They got awesome glasses. that break the CCTV, whatever. dazzle the CCTV cameras. Sure.

So go pick up the guns and you'll also be staying here tonight so that we can minimize the other locations that we shoot the film in and that's going to really bring the project down. So that way you can't just escape in the middle of the night. And then we award the second worst derivative use of nowhere to run in a movie after John Wick 4. Because if you're aware, nowhere to run starts with nowhere to run to.

Baby. Nowhere to hide. He does have all the songs. They put so many fucking baby songs on the soundtrackers. Again, this is... But not Justin Bieber. Cowards. This is another G.A. filler mission.

Yeah, it is. Like, we drag out the movie for like 15 minutes on another kind of GTA padding mission. Yeah, they're just sort of driving around together. It's not phenomenally cool. They have to go get the guys. They have to go and get the guns. Yeah. They have to go and get the guns from a guy who's like a takeoff of the John Wick sommelier,

the gun sommelier, but instead of wine, his deal is that his name is the butcher, and he describes all his guns as like cuts of pork because you're smoking pigs. Yeah, he's like kind of southern gentleman, but he's like talking about, he's really spalling out the, like, meat metaphor too far. Yeah. That's a guy who's come up with an idea for what their, like, thing is going to be, but hasn't really figured it out yet. Just sort of like...

When he calls the grenade sausages, by that point, I'm completely lost and I'm like, sorry, what? Sorry, could I just have like some normal guns, please? Thank you. We've also got a fine selection of sausages. It's fucking grenades. Yeah.

The prime rib is over here, and it's like a Mac 10. It's like, I don't know what the pattern you're using to describe these things is. Like, hickory guns? You come into the gun store, and they're like, have you done... Have you gunged with us before?

And you're like, no. And they're like, okay, so we do things a little differently. Yeah, yeah. Get a few small guns for sharing. Yeah, yeah. The guns get bigger as you go down the menu. This whole annoying scene, by the way, is soundtracked by tequila. Yeah, yeah.

Awesome. Yeah, and Jamie Fox decides I've had enough of this stupid metaphor. He's like, I'm done with his shit and just kills them all, yeah? Yeah, let me start a gunfight, kills them. Because the crates have APD on them and because one of the guys recognizes, him and won't say where from. He's like, this is a trap, these are cops, immediately start

shooting. And we get the gunfight to the tune and exact cadence of tequila. Oh my god. Do, do, do, do, do. Incidentally, as far as the depth of the scripts and the

writing goes, at one point John Hamm confronts Jamie Fox and says, verbatim, you got my wife shot. I don't like that. I said that I read that I don't like that I don't like that

I don't like that I don't like that I don't like that either that's a pretty reasonable point You can't have your characters announce how they feel that makes me feel angry So they drive to

As they're driving back Jamie Fox makes them stop at a diner and it's the diner from the baby Yeah it's the diner The baby driver's like Specifically he realizes

A baby doesn't want to go in there Yeah And Jamie Fox is like Oh now I want to go in there because I'm awake and Well, I'm the wing group. And also because, again, it's the sort of, it's trying to hit the same thing as sexy beast. Not only do you have to hang out with all of these assholes, but these assholes are like,

like, keenly attuned to your vulnerabilities, right? And you just want to have the, like, earnest kind of love thing and that is weakness to them. I liked it better when sexy beast did it. Yeah. At this point, Jamie Fox completely susses John Hamm's entire backstory and shit. He's like, oh, I'm guessing. You used to, like, work in finance and got a coach. cabinet and became a criminal.

And this is making me consider that this diner is built on some kind of like exposition layline or that like sodium pentothal is in the coffee. It's gotta be, man. You go in there, you sit down with somebody like, I was born in basketball in 1996. Here's my entire shit. Everyone is Vincent Donofrio and Daredevil that they sit down. They're just like, when I was a child, my father said just like, everyone was a cruel, man. This is the diner where in the 50s, the CIA tried to do MK.

ultraship, by putting sodium impendosol in the air conditioning, and they just never remember to take it back out again? It's still kind of residual in there, yeah. It turns out. That's actually just sort of still circulating her. This is a kind of minor American God's season two episode is the diner

that makes people say their entire backstory. I'm barely even exaggerate. The fucking morseye device, I think. The diner that makes you exposit, yeah. It's pretty good. Yeah. Pretty good. It's an episode of TV

for sure. It's the Twilight Zone. Yeah. Jamie Fox pulls his gun and he's going to kill Debbie just for the thrill of it. Baby stops him. Jamie Fox was like,

okay, but he just, we sense that he just wanted to rise out of baby because he leads. And baby passes Deborah a note. Yeah, yeah. He passes Deborah a note

that's just like the complete text of David Copperfield I guess. It's like you mean running away together to me. Sorry about that. I don't know what's going on. going to run away.

P.S. My mom was this and my dad was it, and I came from this. Yeah, yeah. He's right. Just passing a note and it opens up and it just says, my father was a cruel man. Yes.

This doesn't help me, baby. He's asking for more napkins to keep writing the rest of it. How many napkins have you got? Can I get another? Number of napkins they go through in this place. Crazy. He's like writing it in ketchup, yeah?

Yeah, yeah. They've had to stop providing crayons for the children's fucking menus now because she watches right novellas. Very, very confessional tone, yeah. Just baby turning in this Elena Ferranto novel that's like, yeah, it's confessional, but it's like deeply subjective, and it's a really sort of like woman-centered perspective. You walk, you're really, really refreshing, actually. You walk in a bar or booth, and it's like the pew or a confessional. Oh my God, they consecrated this diner. Well, fucking Jamie Fox was trying to deconsecrate the diner as well earlier.

Yeah, they get back and Kevin Spacey is sitting in the dark, and when he hears them come in, he says bananas. Which, I don't know what the fuck Kevin Spacey is doing in this movie. He's just aura farming. He is. But he says whenever I, so all my contacts know that if the deal goes smoothly, they call me and they say the code word bananas and I hang up. Nobody has called me and said bananas tonight. So what the fuck happened? Who shot the cock?

And Jamie Fox is like, I'm a wain grow. I killed those guys because they were cops. And Kevin Spacey goes, I know they were my cops. Jamie Fox is like, well, still. They shot first. And he makes John Hammond baby back him up. And he's like, the only way they could ideas is with a Ouija board, which is kind of cute. And then Kevin Spacey flexes on him, he was like, well, it only takes seven, it only takes four letters to spell your name.

And then he drops his, like, actual name. Dead names. Yeah. his heist name. It's over. Leon. Just, oh. Me, when I'm leaving the one restaurant in, like, walking distance and Houston Station.

Shut up. God, what do they do to the fries in that place? It's over. Leon, the unprofessional? It's over, Leon. I consider Leon to have been pretty unprofessional, considering hanging out with the, like, extremely underage girl. But, like, anyway.

So, um... Sure. We see the, like, baby, baby is sort of like, about to sneak out. It's the middle of the night. It's the 50s in his head. He's seeing it in black and white. He's seeing himself in the West Side story fit. He's seeing her with the 50s corvette and a poodle skirt.

And I'm like, this is fucked up. This is fucked up to think, I think. And crucially, in his fantasy, she has no lines. She doesn't say anything. She just smiles at him and kisses him. Hi, baby. She is a substitute mother. It just...

It could be something about how infantilizing it is to stay in this fantasy world, but it isn't going to. I think we can be clear about that. Yeah. Baby attempts to hit the bricks and gets caught immediately. Yeah, John Hamm and Bats catch him. Yeah, John Hamm first catches him and tries to, like,

be like, get the fuck back upstairs. It's okay, go, run. I understand it. And then Bats, like, gets into the car with them as well. This is the most caught anyone's ever been. and they all have to go back upstairs And then also he goes By the way, what is this?

And he plays him the recording But he's making of them Just like, have you been recording us? Yeah. Everything. And now you're suddenly leaving. Are you the police? And John Hams tries to stick up for him

and is like, nobody in the police could make a mixtape this fly. Yeah, this is finally the payoff because I've been waiting this whole time. I remember him making a fucking mixtape of being called the R word in like, what the third from star scene in the goddamn movie. I'm like, this is going to come back

eventually. And it finally hits and it hits like fucking crack because they pour out this pile of tapes and they just play the fucking R-word remix to Kevin Spacey. I have a slight difference of opinion with Abby when you said it was cool

earlier because I think that this is kind of ass and I kind of like that it is as well that he like makes his little tapes and they're bad. It's so good because they're like, why the fuck are you recording us? We are criminals. I'm going to shoot you with my gun. And he successfully manages to get out of the situation by being so fringe, it's unbelievable.

But just be like, no, I'm actually kind of remixing things that you've said that I think sounds cool. And I don't show it to anyone. I just listen to it on my own. And they go, that's the stupidest excuse I've ever heard in my entire life. And then they put one on and they're like, holy shit, he's actually just doing that. Oh, my God. Yeah, he really is just that wristless. He legitimately is just doing this.

Notably, Kevin Spacey also confiscates his dead mom tape. You can't have the tapes of the criminal conspiracy. You're not allowed them. And then makes him go on the heist the next morning. And so as... He survived that through... Like, he survived that scene through being just earnest. Through the power of cringe.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I legitimately am just remixing these things. Yeah, fantastic. Anyway, get out there, baby, you beautiful bastard. Go on. Go on, yeah, and so he's waiting in the car, and as they have gone into the bank, he sees the nice teller lady who is also kind of his mom aged and is like, and who likes Dolly Parton, because she listens to music, because she's creative people,

and she doesn't just see, like, the chicken browning in the oven. She sees, like, a dragon heating it or whatever. And he, like, he, like, warns her off. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. She uses the opportunity to, having been warned, to go and fetters a, security guard. This is really crucial later in that this is going to be something that is cited in

Baby's favour. And then that woman, because he has warned her off, gets to see that security guard get shot in front of her. Yeah. Yeah, because Jamie Fox shoots him as they run out. Baby is kind of like, is perturbed by this. He's perturbed by this, for sure. So Jamie Fox hits him, and in retaliation, Baby slams on the accelerator and accelerates

into a dumpster. and then it's come here, Jamie Fox you're about to be impaled on a pipe Yeah, his final destination two's him He absolutely does him like for shooting houseman at the start of the descent Just straight into a pile of rebar

Oh yeah, straight through the window I think as someone who also sometimes struggles When like multiple people are talking at once This is a completely valid Response to that happening When there are two noises at the same time Or even more than two noises Sometimes you just have to kill

Yeah What if I drop something that's made of metal and it makes that horrible, loud, crashing noise, I should be able to kill the closest person to me without it being a crime. Like, that's fine. I have that too, but that's because I have the venom symbiote. That makes the symbiote, it makes the symbiote.

It makes the symbiote, yeah, because of the... Yeah, yeah, yeah. If two people are yelling, not even at me, just like in proximity of two people are yelling, I have to be able to kill. It's so funny that I still... I got to listen to Baker Street again, otherwise I'm going to go crazy.

On some level, believe, yeah, I should have been in the military. A famously non-healing environment, right? I think they yell at you in the military. I don't know. But you can kill. You can kill. On the plus side, you do get to fucking snipe a couple of like just random Afghan civilians if you want to, and that really takes distress out.

Maybe I would have been terrifyingly effective because of my neurodivergence. We don't think about these things. I will say, listening to music. One thing about living in the United States is that, but Americans are the loudest motherfuckers in the world. Oh my God. And we'll just like bellow their personal information across restaurants. In the last few days, I've heard so much about like men's divorces

and like women's childbirth issues. I'm just like, do you not understand that I can hear you fuckers? Like, I'm wearing earpugs. I'm baby driver and I can still hear you. You gotta stop going to the exposition restaurant. Oh yeah, you should see the layline that's built on. You know, the CIA have been pumping all kinds of shit in there. No, I genuinely think Americans don't have like a theory of mind.

Like, I think they think that they are kind of the protagonist of reality to the point that they can't imagine someone else hearing what they say. Let's start on them. But so now, because the car is broken, because it's attached to Jamie Fox and a bunch of rebar. Now he's baby runner. Yeah, they have to do like a foot chase and he does some parkour also synced to the music. Here's the problem with this. Yeah.

If you liked the sort of synced to the soundtrack bit, even if you liked that, we are well into an hour plus of it. This is like the seventh song that we've done the kind of cuts in sync to the beat with. Yeah. And during part of this chase, he loses his iPod. I just has to run and we hear the street noise and we hear his heart pounding stuff. That's effective. I would have had the iPod get destroyed in the car crash so that then it just adds to the tension of this foot chase. That would have been good.

because then you have to kind of confront the reality of the thing would have put more impact on the choice that he made like in the scene yeah absolutely yeah like maybe when he hits him the earphones come out and that's the yeah but all right but we also see John Hamm buddy when Darling gets shot by the cops buddy goes psycho mode and just starts killing people

and also starts trying to kill baby as well yeah that's that's about as much thought as the movie gives Darling or her getting shot is it just yeah She's like crazy and like sex and talking about sex and then gets fucking shot. The shooting in this like the chases are good, the shooting isn't. It's not he, that's fine. It's not called fucking baby shooter, but...

A black lady gets some lines. Prequel to shoot her. Baby shooter or American smiter. The way this movie treats black people is weird. It's weird. It's just weird. It's really weird. Yeah, it's no good at all.

Because again, in a city that is like, like plurality black. Mm-hmm. The two kinds of black characters that we've seen are the waingro, right? Like the worst psycho you've ever seen. Or your grandparents, right? Because... Yeah.

Like, most of the cops as well, like, really, during this scene, in the rightness that, most of the cops are also non-white. Yeah. It's odd to use an only... He jacks a black lady's car, and then he reaches over to the passenger seat and gives her her purse back and apologises and then drives away. This will also end up getting cited in the later court cases. Yeah.

Crazy. Crazy. Yeah. Not before getting a laugh line off of her going, what the fuck afterwards. Yeah. Because that's kind of out of character for her, which... Okay, sure.

Okay, sure. And he gets back and finds his house has been ransacked. Yeah. It has, yeah. He rescues Joe and he takes the cash that he's been stashing. And he drops Joe off at a retirement home with the cash and says, I gotta go. Yeah, this is kind of like

elder abandonment or something. Yeah, I guess it is. Where he's like, yeah, my name's Joe and I'm deaf. And here's all the stuff that I like, please look after me. Like Moses being sent down the river. Like, what is going on here?

Like, like abandoning a baby at a fucking, like YMCA. Just like a little tape. Like, I'm Joe. I like, you know, hot food and blankets and things like that. And I'm like, this is like at least a 60. maybe 70-year-old man even.

He's probably lived a whole life, you know? He's clapped cheeks. I don't know. It's just weird for you to record a little, like, baby thing about him. I don't know. Yeah. So much surreal about so much elder care when you think that all those people are clapped cheeks. I stopped taking it to this stage.

I got too angry. So he goes back to the diner. And as well as Deborah, John Hamm, Buddy, is there. And Buddy is like, yeah, I feel bad because my darling died, because she was a good girl and I loved her. I first met her seven years ago when I was in the shit, what's in this fucking car? Get him talking, get him talking.

Run out the clock. And is she a good girl? And he's brought a gun with him because he's going to shoot Deborah because that's how this works for him, I guess. But when he's about to... You got my wife killed, I kill your girlfriend. Yeah, your girlfriend.

And then when he's... He's about to. A cop comes in. I really only became a police officer to try and, like, please my father. Yeah. Also, you have a bathroom key. Here's my social security number.

I was born in July. Crazy. There's this brief moment of distraction that baby uses to shoot John Hamm in his shoulder. I like watching John Hamm, even when they do put him in the fucking Richard Spencer haircut they put him in in this movie. He's really good.

I love John Hamm. He is very good. I love John Hamm. I thought that Deborah was going to break the coffee mug over John Ham's head or something like that. They show the coffee mug like a couple of times.

She's thinking about it. That isn't what happened. Baby just shoots them. Yeah, she doesn't really do a whole lot. Well, yeah, I guess that would require her to do something. Yeah, women doing stuff. Something like have an effect on the world around her through her will. Looking at my notes here, I can, I realize I've made an interesting mistake,

which is that instead of writing Kevin Spacey with like, K and S. I have written, Baby calls Kirstama who won't help, which I guess... The Prime Minister? The Prime Minister?

The current Prime Minister of Great Britain Northern Ireland, Kirstama? He calls current Prime Minister at this time? Hello, baby? I get it. It's not really my department, actually. How did you get this number?

He calls him up and he's like, my father was a tool banker. So he steals the car at gunpoint, and we see that Deborah is like willing to hype him up in an extremely Reddit way, because when they're like, have you ever even shot a gun before? She says literally five minutes ago, which...

Mm-hmm. Yeah. She delivers the, like, so that just happened lines here. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Kind of shit.

He drives back to Kevin Spacey's crime headquarters, and he says, I'll give you all the money back from the heist, but I want the tape with my mum on it. And Kevin Space is like, No way. And then he sees... Deborah, like, hanging off him being pretty, and he's like, oh, you're so cute and white.

Oh, I just love. Okay. That's interesting. There's a kind of cute bit before, before Deborah comes in where he's begging him. He uses this line about them being stronger as a team. And Kevin's face, he goes, don't feed me any more lines from Monsters Inc., which he has been doing the whole time. You see him watching Monsters Inc.

earlier. That one slipped by me. That was good. That was funny. That was funny. That's a very neurodivergent thing as well. It's just like, I take my girlfriend to a restaurant. I heard someone mention.

I use lines of it I heard on a TV show. Yeah, it's crazy how he's not Eurodiversion. The explanation for this is that he's in a car crash that traumatized him and gave him tinnitus. And it's like, you could have just had him be autistic. That would have been fun. And also, that kind of imitative thing, if he wanted to be sort of more indictedful about this,

at some point we're going to do the samurai, for instance. You could really kind of suggest that there's a darker tone you can take with this of like, there's not really someone there, individually speaking. It's just kind of, you know, a series of mimicry built on mimicry. It's like, yeah.

Is maybe a Chinese room? Hard to know. Maybe, maybe. So seeing them together, he's like, oh, God damn it, fine, whatever. Take your tape back, take your money. And in the lift down, I'm going to give you some friendly life advice about living on the run. And then just, like, sort of at the end says, ruefully, I was in love once, which is crazy because he's not even in the diner.

He's not in the diner. And also, like, he knows that the two of the two of them. of them are in love. He's seen them before. What exactly makes this change of heart happen? No qualms about exploiting that, threatening her, threatening her appearance most notably at one point after the restaurant, he's like, you've got a cute

girlfriend, let's keep it that way. Like, you've got a cute girlfriend, it's be ashamed if we like, yeah, disfigured her, we're going to break your knees if you don't do this. Oh, I just realized you're in love, quick, take all my money and my car and fucking skip town. Confronted with it in the instance and it's, yeah, it's not

the most convincing thing in the world. It's a musical, so whatever, but like, still. He gets mortally wounded by two guys who attack them. I do love seeing Kevin Spacey get shot, though. And that happens quite a lot in this movie. He gets hit by a car, yeah, for real. He goes over the front of them. Yeah, that's too.

That's great acting. Yeah. They do that for real. As they're getting away, a police car rolls up, and someone says, it's the pigs. And baby goes, that's not pigs. That's ham. That's ham. Very good.

That's John Hamm. That's John Hamm in a police car because he's stolen a police car and he's going to kill us all now so he kills Kevin Spacey. He does. He does. He stalks him around the parking lot,

nice cheap filming location in his variety of cars. I want to talk about how John Hamm becomes the car demon here. He does. To convey his inner turmoil, the police car has like taste for red interior lighting.

Yes, it does. Yeah, the evil police car. Yeah, but to me that's all police cars, but yeah. He's also blasting babies getting locked in song, which is Queen, Bright Rock. Yeah, yeah. Out of the thing. Fine, sure. We've got a long chase through the parking garage, which culminates in a baby like...

Push of war. Yeah. He like shoves the cop car off the thing where it sort of like goes down in flames. But Johnham manages to escape through editing. The line is, fuck you, buddy, which we've been waiting for for like an hour, cool. Mm-hmm. And if something is like, there's a semi-interesting occurs, right? Because John Hamm is like, oh, I'm going to steal something that you love from you

and then shoots his gun either side of baby's head. And I'm like, oh, he defends him. That's really interesting. Yeah, that's really cool. Because now he won't be able to hear properly for the rest of the movie. Wrong. He just, he's fine. He's literally fine.

He's fine, actually. Yeah, it wears off in the next scene. And it's like, that's a really interesting thing to put in the movie. and they just don't do it. They like, don't do it. He then goes to kill Deborah anyway. Deborah fights him. Baby shoots him in the leg,

and he falls off the thing to his actual death. His hated cop car becomes his grave. Yeah. Because Disney villain's style. We then cut forward a bit to them escaping in the countryside.

Baby's hearing is still a little bit fucked up, but not really. But not enough. Yeah, she's playing the mum tape. He wakes up to the sound of his mom singing and looks over and sees Deborah, I do not like that she is a replacement mother.

She's his mom. She's his mom. She's a replacement. Weird. All men are looking for mum too to marry. That's just the facts of the matter. The mom too, the mom you can fuck. My,

disgusting, Sigmund Freud's to the podcast. It's crazy. It is crazy. But the other thing about this that I really like is his mom who, presumably in the 90s, did a really 2010s kind of husky-style cover of easy like Sunday morning.

She was a real innovator, you know? Yeah, she was. She was like Billy Elish, yeah. Yeah. She was in the recording studio that makes you record something 20 years ahead of the style of the time,

which is, you know, they don't have a lot of this. High risk, high reward. That was the same studio where they edited Speed Racer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fuck, how good is Speed Rays. The cops, one million cops, of course.

Yeah, a billion cops. Yeah, a 10 billion cops. We got a great big road. sitting in the middle of the road. Baby's like, that's probably the end of the road for me. I don't know. She tries to go for it too, and he stops her. She's all about it. She's like, alright, let's go.

Kill, baby. Yeah, he stops her, and he's like, you're not about that life. You don't belong in this world. And then what we get is a very genteel fantasy of arrest, because the American police officers that stop a car

First of all, he steps out of the car. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're dead. The American police officers who stop a car, like with a guy who shot some cops, I guess, or was involved in a conspiracy to shoot some cops of it. Right. Let the driver stay in the car at the steering wheel

while they calmly arrest the passenger only. Well, the cops know that he's the protagonist of the movie in that she's not actually. Nothing bad happens to him. He doesn't get. They don't even hit him. It doesn't make any... The Georgia State Patrol.

Patrol the state of Georgia. Baby Driver is white. Yeah, baby driver is white. Baby driver has white privilege. Can we talk about this finally? Yeah, yeah. I think a lot about the TikTok by the girl who is talking about the Georgia State Patrol

on the basis that they are the only department who has no prejudice, because if you can be black or white, or anything, they are still driving you off the road and choosing you. Like, it's... Jesus. They love to do it. And so it's...

They saw them in love. They saw them in love. Like, oh, I love love. We're here at the Georgia Police Department love love. He gets arrested, right? To his one song. And I... And he goes to jail where there is no music,

because they don't have music in jail. And I would stop the movie here. Yeah, I would have probably stopped it as they were driving away, to be honest. Mm-hmm. Why not? Yeah, no, he gets arrested. He's in jail now. And now, oh, my.

We get a little montage of, like, all the people he's been nice to, like the bank teller and the lady whose car he stole. If you have, like, an idealized, like, 1950s in your head, right? And you do these crimes and you escape from the horrors of your crimes of the music. And people keep warning you that eventually you're going to have to confront the sort of violence of what you do. and the music's going to stop, right, and the real world is going to destroy you. That's an interesting arc, right? And it's one that the movie sets up.

Yeah, you're going to have to face the music. Literally something that John Hamm says to him. And then the American justice system in the great state of Georgia, which destroys far, far more innocent people for far, far less. Every day goes, okay, but this guy was nice to,

people sometimes. They genuinely, they play like clips of everyone he's been nice to being like, oh, he gave me my handbag back and he said sorry. I got the feeling that he didn't really believe in all of this stuff. Yeah, he's a good kid. We've seen the movie Flight.

I haven't. No. So, I'm going to spoil the end of the movie Flight. So you should go and watch the movie Flight. Because, first of it's a really, really good movie, and I want to talk about it in plain season. But the ending of the movie flight is Denzel Washington's character in a, you know, not portrayed as outwardly racist justice system,

having all of these kind of testimonials on his behalf, right, of, you know, he's, he's like cleaning up his act, he like saved a bunch of people's lives way more than Baby Driver ever did, but he still did something that was like criminally irresponsible and kind of lucked his way out of it, right? He still goes to prison for like a serious amount of time and more than that comes to the kind of realization that he should be in prison, right? Not that that's necessarily something that I agree with, but it's sort of an interesting part of his character out to be like, yeah, I did something wrong, I should be in prison.

Yeah. And Baby. Takes with Dostoevsky in turn. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Baby in this case is like he's in prison. He gets all these kind of testimonials about how nice he was. Like, that woman saw a guy have his life ended in front of her. that like genuinely like life-changing trauma

because of a robbery he was in admittedly like coerced into but like that barely features in the sort of narrative here but it's like and if you think of that woman's interactions with him he was borderline non-verbal during the scouting out of the location and then he like

shakes his head of her like kind of scared style in a car and she is willing to get up on on the stand here and be like I think he's a good guy I think he's a fine guy get him out of there And I will say the prison scenes are the only ones where they get the racial split of Georgia correct.

Isn't that fascinating? Interesting. Interesting. Yeah. Five years later, he gets out of prison and it says Debbie's there with a car from his dreams. It just does it. He just does it.

Yeah. The imagined thing just happens to it. It can be real. You can always get what you want. I feel, I feel like, again, I feel like even with the most, like, nakedly putting your thumb on the scale in favor

of, like, white boys, you can imagine. Right. He's leaving prison. There's a rainbow. He's the shot. It's, this is the most crazy shit. Do you have many cops buddy killed? Like, while you were in, like, felony, like, felony murder

territory with him? You were part of this. Also, you killed him. You killed a man. They're giving Baby Driver an experiment. an experimental lethal injection. Like, they're not, like, what are you talking about? Jesus. They let him out after five years.

This is his dying reverie is when he's on the lethal injection table. He's in Georgian Scorpion Prison? Yeah. He's in the Rockabilly Mind Palace, the Rockabilly Pussy Mind Palace. Oh, I would hate to be in that. Yeah. I'd hate to be in it. I was, I would.

And that's, that's the movie. I hate to be in any Mind Palace. That is the movie. Would you like to know how much this movie cost to make? I would love to know. Because I was astonished to discover the answer to this. This movie cost $34 million,

which in movie terms is staggeringly cheap. And it looks really, really, really, it looks a lot more expensive than $34 million. It made $227 million. This movie was fucking popular. I finished this movie I was like

I hated this to pieces and then I had to have it broken to me that this was unimaginably popular in the year that came out it was strange they loved it all the like it's got a ton of like really positive

like lesser box reviews and stuff who are like I yo because I think the thing is right further to my contention that Americans are not sentient right is a lot of them genuinely seem susceptible to the delusion that other people

do not like music and that music is not the kind of popular thing to enjoy. And so, so many people seem to be like, oh, this really speaks to me because I listen to music. I love for the heard tune, yeah. The other thing is that this movie was kind of ahead of its time and that it is made to be clipped and put on TikTok and Instagram.

Yeah. Fuck, it is. Clip farming with the sort of semi-volume AI voiceover describing the scene that they're using the trains like God knows what underneath. Yeah. The man went to the ex-octuary. My whole YouTube algorithm now

is just clip farm for Green Book right now I want to get rid of it I don't know how to get rid of it but it's all just like the YouTube shorts are all just like this white man doesn't understand racial prejudice and it's just Migo Mortensen being like I don't get it you want him to sing in your club

but you won't let him eat dead that's crazy what are we doing what the fuck are we doing? I did not care for this movie I thought it was a real sort of triumph of style over substance. He was working on this for 20 years, by the way. He had this idea in the 90s, Edgar Wright, did. And just, like, just stated on it for a long time. Yeah, yeah.

It feels like a movie that was first drafted many, many years ago, and it's had a lot of revisions. It feels like a movie that was first done in a notebook by a teenager. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, I like Edgar Wright's movies. Like, there are some good ones in there. I like the Cornetta trilogy. This is good stuff, you know?

I decided it's fine. Yeah. It's nice. It's well made. It's entertaining. It's a good paycheck. Yeah, exactly. If this was, if this was, if the first idea for this was in the 90s,

Edgar Wright was born in 1974. So it was between the ages of 16 and 26, which sounds about right. That makes some sense to me. Yeah. Yeah. But we don't have to just rate it Edgar rightly. We don't. We have a science-based system on this podcast.

We do. It's called the scum system. It stands for smarm. Cultural and sensitivity. Unnecessary violence. The Blues Brothers is coming soon. Don't worry. And misogyny.

On a scale of zero to seven. How smarmy is baby driver? Can we go into triple digits or are we just sticking with double here? Yeah, let's just go ahead and write down 10 because there's nothing. There is no smarmy a movie. And it's like they set out to do it like this. Yes. It's very intentional.

It doesn't mean I don't hate it, but it is very intentional. It's not. Is it sincere in a bit? Do you think there's even a sliver of sincerity in it? It is, but it sucks and I hate it. Nine men? I guess that. No, no, because the sincerity is, the sincerity is like, yo, it would be crazy if my girlfriend was my mom.

Like, I... Yeah, okay. Yeah. All right. Ten. No, no. No. Ten.

No. Ten. Cultural insensitivity. Um, I'm not happy with the way that it depicts Atlanta. I think it's racist. It's a tax credit, not a, not a play. Yes, yes. You know, John Boyega was a finalist to play Baby.

Would have been a better movie. It would have been so good, wouldn't it? Infinite. Yeah. But like... Oh, that would have been great. It's weird that Deborah is white as well. It's like there's so many sort of different things here that you can take from this. And like, I think as well as that it's slightly worse than just, we're just going to ignore this

and set this in my kind of like completely neutral black and white, 50s version of Americana, respective of the politics of that because you then also have black characters, but it's a wain grow or your mom and dad, right? That's kind of more fucked up to me. Yeah. And to have the ending, to have the ending be like, oh, by the way, the 50s black and white Americana is possible and desirable as well. Okay.

I think that puts it at like a five for me. Five? Yeah, I'm happy with that. Unnecessary violence. Well, there is some violence in it, but it's mainly defensive. is sort of like horrified by the violence and the violence is sort of like

the kind of thing that is like if the movie has any sins with regards to violence it's in the opposite direction is baby not realizing that he is complicit in this stuff

like he doesn't and he doesn't really fully accept he's complicit in any of this by the end like he just gets out on good behavior he never really makes him

do that he killed Buddy like he did that's a very good point Dev yeah he's definitely complicit in the violence against the people

being robbed in the opening bank robbery and he just chooses to ignore that. And in the second one where he like drives the car forwards a little bit so as to not to see the violence then comes back and takes back over. You don't stop existing during that period. You're just looking away. But he never actually has to reckon with it properly.

Good point, Dev. Yeah. That's not part of his arc. It's because of the ending. It's like and again, I think there's a reading of this where it's like, you know, not that he's in Georgian sort of scorpion prison, but this is a kind of victory of self-delusion, right? he's beat the justice system and now he gets to keep pretending forever but like yeah you gotta have some like sort of you know yeah he gets to his 50s fantasy for that which it doesn't do it just it thinks that the 50s fantasy is cool so it's got to be at least a couple right like yeah i i struggle

to give it a small amount yeah i go three yeah three three three sounds about right okay and finally misogyny oh women are people we're not people darling is not a person no deffer is not a person Are there any of us? There's two kinds of women, right? Slut and your mum. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's bad.

For decades, men have sought to combine the two. If only there was some kind of name for this complex. The greatest male scientists. Yeah. I don't think it's that complex. I think it's pretty fucking simple. Yeah. The Madonna horse simple.

Yeah. Yeah. It's bad. It's transparently bad. It's crazy to, like, not have, like, female characters beyond love interest and, like, horny slut in your movie. Yeah. Right?

And darling, darling, doesn't add anything to the heist, except being part of the PDA couple, the one time she tries to shoot it out with the cop, she gets killed. It's... In order to facilitate John Hamm's character, yeah. Yeah. It's a real... It's disappointing. I mean, I like that...

I... Yes, the exposition diner, but Debra just dumps the whole backstory is a hilarious scene because it's like trying to beat this allegation, I guess it's better than if that wasn't there. It's not, it's not beating the allegation. It's got to be like, what is this? Five or a five or something? Five or a six, yeah, I think.

Yeah. Yeah. Probably in 2017, too. I'm like, come on, you can do better than that, man. That's supposed to be peak woke 2017. I said, I said five for cultural and sensitivity, I believe. So I would put this the same way where it's like five. Five is like, work. than just bad, but it's not like,

sort of intentionally egregiously bad, you know? Okay, all right. Yeah, five. Okay, yeah, five. All right, that gives it a total score of 23, which is pretty bad. Hey, you know what, though? You know what, though? Jamie Fox's technical cronstein. When he puts the shotgun in baby's face, he's about to attack the driver of the vehicle he's in, even though it's stationed.

Yeah, he does. He hits it, he hits him, and then that's what he's being killed. So, yeah, yeah, technical cronstein of war. technical cronstein. Good for you. Yeah. Good for you, buddy. Well, and I couldn't find a place to say you can't be talking like that white baby driver.

I don't know. I was working on this for like an hour and a half. I just couldn't find a time. It's fucked up. It's fucked up. Oh, well. Reinsert it on your own time, listener. I think it makes sense for the next bonus episode to be Titan, maybe. I think so. Yes. Okay, sure.

That's a movie I'm going to talk about for a long, long time so look forward for like a three hour episode i've had that on my like on my like i need to watch this for like a year and a bit easily and then next mainline episode we could do blues brothers let's do blue brothers let's do it okay sure let's lock it right now so the next bonus episode to tan the next mainline episode blues brothers thank you so much for subscribing to the patreon we will see you next time bye everyone bye bye bye baby jazz outro yeah bye baby jazz outro Thank you for listening to yet another episode of Kill James Bond. The next episode in two weeks' time on the free feed will be the Blues Brothers.

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