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Episode Date: November 4, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:14 And it's free. What's up and welcome back to the Kind of Funny Games cast for Tuesday, November 4th, 2025. I'm Tim Gettys. I'm joined today by Greg Miller. Hello, Timothy.
Starting point is 00:00:33 How are you? Very good. Great. Love that sweater. Thank you. Yes. You look good in it. We had a whole conversation on Games Daily.
Starting point is 00:00:39 Is Andy holding out on us, keeping all the great designs for his own merch and not our merch. You know what I mean? And so I never want to fire somebody on the air, but this is the closest of everything. We're getting close. We're getting close to it every day. You also talked on Games Daily a lot about Metroid Prime 4.
Starting point is 00:00:53 And your thoughts, cool, great, lovely. We're one month away from Metroid Prime 4. I just realized that as I was reading this, and that is incredibly exciting. And we also have Kirby Airwriters in between that. It's a good time to be a Nintendo fan. Okay. Kirby Airwriters.
Starting point is 00:01:09 What was that? What is that? Kirby Airwriters play bear it. Do we care? You know what I mean? I'm never yucking your yum. Sounds like you're yucking some yums. Oh, whatever.
Starting point is 00:01:20 Oh, look at this guy over here. Oh, man, I love my Nintendo Switch 2. I love it. I play all the games. You don't play shit. You don't play shit. I play Zobb. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:29 Oh, yeah. Playing the market. Alexi. No, I'm not. I'm just doing all the side missions. Just doing the side missions. Just doing the side missions. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:01:38 Kirby though. Tim, remind me, let's go back through the past games cast. How many reviews have you done in the past month, Tim?
Starting point is 00:01:43 Past month? Yeah. You're not even fucking on my level. You're not, I mean, I don't know. I'm sorry that I couldn't.
Starting point is 00:01:48 I'm not calling out Bless here. I haven't finished this yet. Bless is also not out here talking about how much she loves the Switch too. How many outer fucking worlds play-thrues have you done for review, all right? I'm not talking about that.
Starting point is 00:01:59 How about you play a fucking real game? Stop playing baby games over here. Okay, Mr. Zaw, you turn on your goddamn PC. you know what I'm doing over there. I got an RTX thing doing this stuff.
Starting point is 00:02:08 Yeah. Yeah. I'm beaming it to the cloud and down there. How many episodes of the dispatch you pay? Yeah. And the. This is the games cast. Each and every weekday we get together to tell about the biggest reviews,
Starting point is 00:02:18 previews and topics and video games live on YouTube, Twitch and podcast services around the globe. If you love what we do, please support us with the kind of funny membership on Patreon, YouTube, Spotify or Apple podcast to get all of our shows ad free. And a daily exclusive Greg way. What's it today, Greg? Today's Gregway is in the thing, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:02:36 20 minutes about the best beyond moments and are indie games screwed? There you go. I want to know, are they screwed? No. Yeah, of course. One person's panicking. One person's panicking. How about the youth?
Starting point is 00:02:49 The youth. Oh, no. The youth in indie games? Yeah. That seems like a silly thing to worry about. You know what? Have you seen TikTok? He didn't watch the Gregway.
Starting point is 00:02:58 All right. They hold the little stupid mics. Yeah, they do. You know what I'm talking about? And they're always like, I like, I like, indie games. That's literally. all I get on my TikTok is the
Starting point is 00:03:07 talking about indie games. Today after Games Daily, you already got games daily. After this, you're going to get a sponsored Nvidia Arc Raiders stream. The boys going back
Starting point is 00:03:16 into Arc Raiders. Mike's insane. Mike's telling me all these stories about his adventures in Ark Raiders. He is a problem. Yeah. He is the toxicity.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Yeah. It sounds like everyone is, though, because it sounds like every story I hear about the game that sounds awesome is some type of
Starting point is 00:03:31 spy infiltration fuck over. Yeah. Right? that's what you're doing when you're doing the squads apparently. You know what I mean? Solo play, you're out there like me.
Starting point is 00:03:39 We're just out. I'm just harvesting my stuff. I'm just getting my things. I'm going off my life. How screwed have you been in your experience? Like, are you getting screwed left and right? Or is it kind of like an unfortunate? So I hosted the review yesterday.
Starting point is 00:03:49 And so I had played all Thursday afternoon and then a bunch on Sunday night. So not nearly as much as Andy or Mike. And I'm just doing it solo because I was playing on the Xbox handheld. Then I was, you know, playing at my desk a little bit. So I don't have the crazy story. I have the better ones of I'm going towards extraction and all of a sudden, you know, this guy pops up and he's like, don't shoot.
Starting point is 00:04:12 Because with the emot and then I was like, don't shoot. And then we came and then another guy came around, don't shoot. And we ran together as a little trio. No, Mike's just doing our thing. That's a little journey moment.
Starting point is 00:04:22 And then I've had the other one where I was talking about where I immediately, that's one of the TikTok one comes from where I came out, literally load in, come out of the gate, snip. Some guys just camped on spawn. Like, why? What are you doing? Yeah. Tough time.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Thank you to our Patreon producers Carl Jacobs, Omega Buster, and Delaney, the Somme, Twining. But now it's time for the topic of the show. A couple weeks ago, a trend was going around the internet, about 10 games to get to know you. Everyone's posting really shitty looking
Starting point is 00:04:51 images of themselves, surrounded by a bunch of video game box art. Some people's look better than others. You didn't get to do it yet, Greg. Yeah, you guys did a games cast last week about it, where you ran through yours, but I was off on assignment, I believe, or doing a review, or just to, you whatever. I was doing some kind of work.
Starting point is 00:05:07 We did mean. He's got to play the games. Then they get insulted. You know, less thing. I'm here trying to celebrate Nintendo and you're out here. It's like talking shit. I come in. All I want to do is talk about Metroid Prime for Kirby Air Riders. And I get this guy over here making faces, not even playing.
Starting point is 00:05:21 We're going to celebrate Kirby. Kirby. Kirby. Yeah. Did you all play forgotten land? StarCrossed worlds? No. I did. You did it? I did. Me and Ben played it? No. It was like fucking 20 minutes long. There you go, everybody. Nintendo.
Starting point is 00:05:39 That one doesn't mean air riders. It's going to be good. Today we're getting to know Greg Miller through 10 different video games. Yeah, I'm very quiet about my games, so it'll be interesting. Going to know Barrett Courtney, Joey Noel, and Cool Greg.
Starting point is 00:05:53 Who slylyly made his own image and sent it in, so I'm very excited to talk about all that. I do not know these games. Barrett does not know these games. He knows his. Greg knows his. Uh-huh. But what we did last week when it was
Starting point is 00:06:06 me blessing and, Andy and Mike, we kind of like had a couple conversations before we got to the list. One of the conversations was what does this prompt even mean to you? And how does it differ from necessarily the top list, your favorite list, the best list, the blah, blah, blah, right? Because like what does it mean to get to know Greg Miller? And then I kind of want to guess your list a little bit. Of course.
Starting point is 00:06:27 So let's start with prompts number one, Greg. What does this mean to you? Yeah, the rubric for picking this one was interesting because I listened to you guys on the car ride home when I you did yours and when you were debating it I was like I don't know I don't think it would be hard for me and I while we while I was driving I did the little thing where I opened up a thing and just dictated games to it and I went beyond 10 but I really did fell when I got to the 10th slot and I had on my list I have up to 15 I could see switching on and that's when I really started noodling it of what it is and I think Mike did a pretty great job of explaining it out
Starting point is 00:07:02 of like in an elevator to somebody like again these aren't necessarily my favorite games of all time I put in a lot of stuff here that like this is my favorite in that genre or this one has obviously changed my life and how it went da da da da da da like I sprinkled all of those in there and into like as lame as it might sound like what the games in my DNA would be of like what are the building blocks of me and I don't that doesn't mean they're all old obviously but I mean like in terms of like, oh, you know that Greg likes this kind of game and this is the one he would put here and do that kind of thing. And I think it comes down to, and this is where I think I'm a very boring list,
Starting point is 00:07:40 these games come down to the games I have stories about. These are the games that transcended me just, me just playing them. They are the ones where I'm like, oh, but this game did X, Y, and Z and Don. I think that makes my list so easy to guess. Yeah, yeah, I mean, what I'm excited about to is at the end of going through your section, I also am going to make you choose the one game on your list. If you had to choose the one to define you, what would it be? But you're right in the sense that out of everyone here are kind of funny.
Starting point is 00:08:05 I feel like yours is one of the easier ones to at least start to throw some things out that will probably be on the list. But I think that's also because compared to everyone, it's kind of funny. You've talked about video games a lot longer. Sure, sure. And on many, many more shows. Sure, sure. Where people have listened to that. So obviously that leads me to my first guess, DC Universe Online.
Starting point is 00:08:26 That has to be on the list. I'm not going to confer. You can't confer. No, you can't get from. We're just having the conversation now. Chad, get your superchats. And Beard, feel free to pop into this. Super chats with your list.
Starting point is 00:08:33 If you'd like. Because I'm directing it and I have all the images. I do know what's on there. So I don't want to guess either way. Yeah. But I feel like DC Universe Online obviously going to be there, right? Metal Gear Solid. And this is where it gets complicated.
Starting point is 00:08:48 You know, because it gets complicated because I'd say that Metal Gear Solid 1 is probably the, you know, obviously, by definition, the origin. point for you because you didn't play the metal gear and metal gear solid snake whatever the hell back on the msson no yeah yeah i'm not your solid solid was your your entry point there but metal your solid too i feel was a little bit more from my memory of your stories that's the one that you the dog tags and playing over and over and over and all that stuff but of course it's peace walker not maker metal gear solid peace walker on the PSP and i feel like you are the number one like ride or die Peace Walker guy.
Starting point is 00:09:27 Everyone knows that. Right. So I feel like it's going to be Peace Walker. I feel like it has to be because even though you probably have more stories about the other ones, Peace Walker is the, you want that associated with Greg Miller the most.
Starting point is 00:09:44 I was in the shower. I was butt naked thinking about you today. You always are. I am. And Patupon kept rattling around my mind. And it gets hard because I'm like when we're talking about just 10 games. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:56 But it's also one of those things where I associate that so much with Greg. people associate Crash Bandicoot with me. Crash Bandicoot didn't make my list. Yeah. Crash Team Racing very close to it, but did not make the top 10. And I think Patupon might be a similar story.
Starting point is 00:10:10 Interesting. So I don't think Patapon makes the list. Okay, okay. We move over to Nottie Dog. There has to be a naughty dog. There has to be one. I really think there has to be one. Okay, I'm listening up.
Starting point is 00:10:24 I'm listening. Because again, Greg Miller, PlayStation 3. I really think that the Beyond Days to get to know you, you have to have some beyond in there, right? Yeah. I don't see you as the last of us guy. I see you more as an uncharted guy.
Starting point is 00:10:49 I see you caring a lot about Elena. You know, I love Elena. You know? What up, Emily Rose. But which uncharted? It's not one. It's not four. Not Lion Linder says it.
Starting point is 00:11:04 He only gave one uncharted. I understand. Didn't review two, everybody remember. Exactly, exactly. And that's where I get kind of caught up. But then the thing is, does Greg Miller put uncharted three on his 10 games to get to know me? I'm going to say yes. I'm going to say yes.
Starting point is 00:11:20 You giving it a 10. I think of that as one of your most important reviews. Thank you. Most iconic reviews. Most infamous reviews. So I'm going to go on charted three. Ghostbusters. Which one?
Starting point is 00:11:36 You really love Ghostbusters. I do love Ghostbusters. These four young boys, these strapping lads going out there. Old men, whatever you want to call them. They're busting ghosts, right? And I think that your old Sega master system, your Sega master system, ghostbusters, if we're going old school,
Starting point is 00:11:59 like what is the game that defined Greg's childhood? I think I might have to go with that. I'm going to put that on there. A wrestling game. No mercy. That's easy. It's no mercy. It's no mercy.
Starting point is 00:12:14 I'm the Nintendo 64. Not wrestling in 2000, you don't think. I don't think so. Not, I don't remember the WWW. 2K 24. Wait, yeah, because 25's right now,
Starting point is 00:12:25 2K 24 where I did say, you know what? We're all, we're all being a bunch of idiots. You know what? I know, but to get to know you, but I know,
Starting point is 00:12:31 but that's, see, that's a good point. To get to know Greg, Greg is a critic and you also are a proponent of modern games. Like, I think that you,
Starting point is 00:12:39 you push that, and you do care. And who coined the term? Old game. Old game is old. Greg Miller did. Yeah. Greg Miller did.
Starting point is 00:12:49 That's a good point. And you have swayed my vote, which might be screwing the prediction here. It doesn't matter though. Yeah, I like that. W. W. I don't know which one necessary. I guess 2K24.
Starting point is 00:13:01 Just like whatever the newest one is that's good. So not 2K20. That was the problem. Yeah, I don't know. That was the bad one. Um, I'll tell you what's not on the list of Pokemon game. And if one is, I swear to fucking God, I'm going to punch you with the face, okay?
Starting point is 00:13:18 I thought about it just to fucking... Yeah, yeah. I thought about making a fake one, but I would submit that would just be all Nintendo games. Okay, what is Greg Miller? We already decided it on a lot of those things. There's the wrestling. There's the Ghostbusters. There's the Metal Gear.
Starting point is 00:13:38 Vita. Vita. P persona for Golden. Oh, okay. I'm if you on that one. Sure. But I'm going to lock it in. I'm going to stick with that.
Starting point is 00:13:53 I appreciate that. I appreciate that. Mario Kart Double Dash is calling to me just from your stories of friendship. You know, playing games. You like that. You talk about that a lot. I do like that.
Starting point is 00:14:09 I do talk about that a lot. But again, I do think that you will probably air more on the modern side. You love the, oh, I'm missing big open world RPG stuff. Oh, Starfield. Let's put Starfield. about it. Let's fucking do it. Let's put Starfield on the list.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Because what else is it going to be? Fuck those fallout games. Yeah. That's the thing. They didn't do anything. But again, Greg Miller. Fuck that out of words. I think Greg has something to say. It's a shit list. You know what I mean? It's like you have something to say. You gotta have something to say. Because I just, what fall out of my pudding for you? Like, is it just New Vegas? I mean 76, of course. Oh, man. No, I don't think so, though. I think you'd put Starfield over 76. What about fall of three? You know how much other Because you have the story of Starfield
Starting point is 00:14:52 This is the story of Starfield I don't really remember your story about New Vegas If it's New Vegas or three for you But I'd probably say it's New Vegas Okay Because I think most people say that from my understanding Fair enough Your understanding
Starting point is 00:15:09 Like you're studying chimpanzees in the wild All right All right let's just go through console by console here You get in there Because we have the NES And I don't think any of that's happening And obviously you were Sega Kid. I think that Ghostbusters is probably going to cover that.
Starting point is 00:15:28 Nothing on. I mean, pretty much Nintendo, I think, is a wash up until probably, if even double dash. But that's probably not going to have. Oh, Animal Crossing New Horizons. Animal Crossing New Horizons, yes. Okay. Put it on the list. Barrett, by any chance, do you know how many I've named?
Starting point is 00:15:48 Like that you've... Locked in. He says like, yeah, what number of his ranting is he on? Three and a half? No,
Starting point is 00:16:00 okay, okay. You misunderstood it. Wait, what? I was asking how many he's listed, period.
Starting point is 00:16:06 How many has he got? No, no, no, I'll get, I'll get, I'll get, three and a half.
Starting point is 00:16:10 That's very funny. To the talk for seven minutes. I thought you're asking how many, like, you've nailed it. No,
Starting point is 00:16:15 no, I understand. Yeah, okay. Yeah, I don't know how many games you named. That's why. It was a lot of, it was a lot of games. Yeah. At least 10.
Starting point is 00:16:22 Yeah. But, okay, I'm trying to think where I'm going. Let me keep talking this out. And then we'll love it. I want to kind of lock. I like, I like how you are trying to detective it. I want to lock into the list a little more. Yeah. What would it be there? So, all right. I'm going to start writing. Superchats. I'm riding these. What's up? Do you want to bring in the Super Chats? I think they're guests. Yeah, yeah. Super Chat in for your guesses on. I'm Greg Miller here. He says Dark Horse, Pokemon Violet and then persona for Golden. And then Parker
Starting point is 00:16:50 Pidad Rail says, thanks for all you all do. Got a new card and updated my Patreon sub with the yearly. Awesome meeting you both at the parade. Much love XOXO. Thank you so much. Great meeting you as well. You are the best. All right. All right. So I'm going to put Sega Master
Starting point is 00:17:06 System Ghostbusters. I'm going to put WWE 2K 24. Why not? Sure. Animal Crossing. New Horizons. I'm going to put Metal Gear Solid. Peace.
Starting point is 00:17:26 While you do that, Daniel Irwin's Super Chats, hey, Tim and Greg, sending a birthday tax from the Sony Pictures Lot, producing my first indie feature. ThinkScream mixed with E, A-A-O. Everything everywhere all at once. Thank you. It's called Body Count on Kickstarter,
Starting point is 00:17:39 if you're all interested. Happy birthday, Daniel, and that's awesome that you're doing that right now. Okay Ghostbusters, WBE, Animal Crossing New Horizons, Peace, I keep writing Peacemaker,
Starting point is 00:17:49 Peace Walker, Uncharted 3, fuck it, Starfield. Yeah, fuck it. So, Persona or Golden, God of War.
Starting point is 00:18:12 You've said many times in recent years the God of War 2018 is your favorite game of all time. Your number one game of all time. Best game of all time. I don't remember the exact qualifications.
Starting point is 00:18:26 But for some reason. You ain't feeling it? For some reason, I don't know if it makes this list. But then you're a dad now. I am a dad now. His name's Ben. I love him very much.
Starting point is 00:18:40 And that swings me back. It's on the list. It's on the list. God of War. Oh, oh, I see. It's on the list. Oh, DC. Universe Online. JJ Baseball, 23 Super Chetheft and says, Assassin's Creed Odyssey is a lock. Never forget Cassandra.
Starting point is 00:18:58 I know. Cassandra. I like that. Okay, I'm going to write it down. Mario Carts. Double. All right. Let's see.
Starting point is 00:19:10 Let's see. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven. I have 11 right now on my list. I'm going to keep going, making sure I'm hidden genres, hidden systems. Because, yeah, PS1. You love the PS1, but it would be. Metal Gear Solid 1. Is there two Metal Gear's on your list?
Starting point is 00:19:27 I don't think so. I don't think so. PlayStation 2 was a big deal for you. But yeah, I don't know. I don't know that any, because it'd be Metal Gear Solid 2. None of the wrestling games. You're not a big JRP guy. A lot of the franchisee stuff.
Starting point is 00:19:58 I don't, Grand Theft Auto. Like a lot of these things are games you like, but I don't know if they're the big ones. Xbox, not Splinter Cell, not Halo, not... You already had that covered with Starfield. Never forget. Yeah. Becky Lynch, what are you up to?
Starting point is 00:20:16 Okay, okay. In the chat, Dejie says, what was Greg playing a lot of IGN? You've named a lot of them. Yeah, Patapons out there, uncharted's. I was on the PlayStation team, so then I was, I was... Cemented in that PlayStation ecosystem.
Starting point is 00:20:30 Infamous. Cam Unelli brings up infamous. Is the... type of thing that would make this list because of what the list is. Right. This is not necessarily best or whatever. It's the PS3. I was saying this earlier,
Starting point is 00:20:48 the beyond game for Greg. Tavin Bothlis has gone home. How have I not thought about the sad games? Sad dad, sad dad. Yeah, I'm going to put Gone Home. Okay, okay, okay. That is a Greg Miller game for sure. All right.
Starting point is 00:21:11 Monster Hunter. Alex is bringing up Monster Hunter, but, all up saying Walking Dead. Yeah, Walking Dead Season 1. Walking Dead Season 1. Put it on the list. That's like, I don't know, 14 games or something. I'm going to lock in my prediction of 10. So let's see.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Ghostbusters. I'm keeping it. Which one? Sega Masters system. Okay. Yeah. Not Rise of the Ghost Lord. I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Of course not. That's a good joke. You know, Ghostbusters. the video game was the third movie. It was the last time we got the four boys back together. Yeah. Ghostbuster spirits unleashed on me and A and played a shit ton of it. Snobber soft Spider-Man. I don't think so. Remember all the suits? Remember staying?
Starting point is 00:22:05 I mean, I fucking love it. It was almost on my list. Animal Crossing New Horizons. Yeah, dude, I got to keep that. Peace Walker obviously got to keep that. Uncharted, I might cuts. Starfield. I might cuts. Persona 4 Golden, I might cut.
Starting point is 00:22:29 Well, now you're just starting the list all over us. No, I'm just like, I'm trying to see if like my locks is already have four. God of War, fucking I'm keeping it. D.C., definitely keeping it. Assassin's Creed Odyssey might cut. Mario Kart double dash. Might cut. Gone home, keeping.
Starting point is 00:22:47 Walking Dead season one. Keeping. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. So I only get two more to lock in here. uncharted three starfield persona four assassins creed mario cart Mario cart gets the cut I'm going to the chat over here Kevin says nah persona four golden stays
Starting point is 00:23:19 ghastly one says DC universe for sure uh... Daegi says there is at very least one superhero game on there surely Darth entity follows up I think it's Batman Arkham city Spoon agrees to you I don't think persona 4 golden makes the list Tunger boy calls up Phantom pain. Any Lego games, Gassily one's shot.
Starting point is 00:23:39 I'm getting rid of Assassin's Creed. That's crazy, because he's the Assassin's Creed guy. Kirby Air Riders, Barry. You fucking believe it. Go Go! Monster Truck says before your eyes, my guy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:57 I think gone home. Keeps that slot. Keeps the cry, baby. Yeah. I'm keeping Starfield. Okay. A universally beloved game. Five, six, seven, eight, nine. Okay, I'm down to one, and it's either uncharted three or persona four golden.
Starting point is 00:24:13 The fact that we have God of War on the list, and I'm sticking with that makes me a little stickier on the uncharted three thing. And we're not getting any Vita love here, which like I feel is not acceptable. Sacralage, some would say. Yeah. But I think that your memories in time with persona four have soured over the years. the importance the levels of importance of getting to know you and what that means to you
Starting point is 00:24:39 might have changed. I'm going to keep uncharted I'm going to get rid of persona for all right lock in my list to read it all more time okay WWE 2K 24 Animal Crossing New Horizons Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker
Starting point is 00:24:55 Uncharted 3 Starfield God of War DC Universe Online Gone Home Walking Dead Season 1 I'm locking it. Okay, he's locked it in, Barrett. So before you show Greg's list, can you look at it and tell me
Starting point is 00:25:13 how many did I get out of the 10? Three and a half. You got five. Okay. 50%. I'll take that and I'm very, very interested in finding out what the other five are and what the five I got right are. And we're going to do that right after a quick word from our sponsor.
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Starting point is 00:26:58 Thank you so much. Before you show me the list, two that I did forget, Ocary and of Time in Super Mario World. Plinkerton, though, I think, is the real winner. That's the what makes the list. Is that the name of the album? Pinkerton. Pinkerton. Plinkerton is a...
Starting point is 00:27:17 I was a good friend. That's the best friend. Yeah, I don't know. So, yeah, maybe those make the list, but... Let's look at the list. Greg, tell me all about it. I mean, you were on the money for a lot of it, right? You did really, really well out there, I think.
Starting point is 00:27:33 Yeah, the games that are at my DNA, I do want to say one thing. you've missed because I have waffled on it over the years and back and forth. Metal Your Solid Peace Walker is back as my number one game of all time. I still love God of War 2018, but it's like, I come back to Peace Walker too much
Starting point is 00:27:50 and think about it too much and I've replayed it too many times now to not be like, no, no, no, that's not taking away from Corey Barrow, like how much I love 2018 and what special game it is. But also you see the Peace Walker's not on this list right here. You nailed it in terms of the conversation
Starting point is 00:28:03 of like, well, which version of this do you pick? And what do you do here? and da-da-da-da-da-da. And so, yeah, I mean, start with the conversation I'm already having. Metal Gear Solid is on here, right? And I think, again, when we're talking about me at my DNA level of what games are to me,
Starting point is 00:28:18 again, I know I've just been saying the same stories for 18 years now, but, you know, without Ghostbusters on the Sega Master System, I'm not here. I was a Ghostbusters fan before I was a video game fan as a kid. My mom made the wrong turn at Toys R Us, took me down the video game aisle to get to the real Ghostbuster Toys. And as we were walking, I caught that,
Starting point is 00:28:37 no ghost logo and stopped, turn, slammed my finger on. I was, what is that? Mom said it was a video game and I was like, I want that. She explained what a video game was. And that's where, you know, they bought me Ghostbusters for my birthday. Uncle Mike bought me the Sega Master System. And we were off to the races. In that
Starting point is 00:28:53 same vein, I would then turn your eyes to a metal, you're solid. Again, a tired story I know, but stick with me if you haven't heard it. You know, I had gotten an N64 and had really enjoyed it and was playing a lot of stuff, but I felt like, okay, maybe games won't be with me forever and there was a conversation with a friend who I didn't
Starting point is 00:29:11 seen since junior high at a high school homecoming where he's like are you still playing games like yeah but I don't and I didn't express it as well but I was like yeah but I think I might be falling out of it I don't know like they you know these games are fun and like obviously the wrestling was fun and cart is fun and yada yada but it was I was looking for more and couldn't express that and then me and Po rented metal your solid on PS1 and I was like oh my god like this is the future of video games I'm playing a movie ah and like that just changed my life and such a definitive way. You know, staying with the N64 thing. Yep,
Starting point is 00:29:41 N64 wrestling game had to make it here. I always default to no mercy because if you're an audio listener, it's no mercy on my list. I guess maybe I should read my list if you're an audio listener. Yeah. So in no particular order, DC Universe Online, Ghostbusters on Master System, Starfield, infamous,
Starting point is 00:29:59 luminous electronic symphony, Metal Gear Solid, the Division 2, WWF No Mercy, tell tale to walking dad, gone home. staying in the vein. Then, yeah, one of the wrestling games had to make it. You know,
Starting point is 00:30:09 you fucking got me. That's the point five. Yeah. No, I think I was some point five was for one of them having kind of a metal gear, whatever.
Starting point is 00:30:17 But I guess no mercy. Then you convinced me out of it. Yeah, yeah. No mercy. It could have been WrestleMania 2000. I think WrestleMania 2000 might have been the
Starting point is 00:30:29 more watershed moment of loving WCWNW or revenge. It was so, hard to go back to the acclaim games like war zone and attitude after playing them because they were so why doesn't everything control this way why would i want to do combos and so when it was that t hq and a k i were gonna then go make they lost the license to wcccccccc picked up w wf and made russalminate two thousand holy shit but no mercy was the better game but then no mercy's also tied up in stories of me of the carts if you remember the cartridges were faulty on the first
Starting point is 00:30:59 round so i lost all my progress over and over again like the fourth or fifth time i tried to return it i was like you know what sold everything back to Funkoland and bought a PlayStation, which is where it set me off. And then, yeah, you start, you know, waiting out into more modern things, I think. But again, I'm a modern man. PC Universe Online, you know, my most played video game of all time. When they last checked me in, it was 900 hours put into that game, right? The only MMO I've ever lost myself to, you know, the story that I know is tired as well there.
Starting point is 00:31:33 is remember I was a Catholic school for the first 13 years of my education. I did not go to, I did not go to school, not in a uniform until I went to Missouri. And I remember definitively on a walk home in like fifth grade, a friend asking me what I thought heaven was like. And my pitch was
Starting point is 00:31:49 I think you die and then like you get to your own personal heaven. You'd go, you know what mean? And he's like, what was yours being? I would live in metropolis and have superpowers. And it would be, so like, D.C. Universe Online, I've always said, is literally my definition of heaven. So the fact that it came out was as good as it was. The fact that it's still
Starting point is 00:32:05 fucking going. Are you kidding me? More than a decade outrageous that this game is still around. I can still go keep the tires on it and I do often drop in just to fuck around. But loved that game and had so many great memories of rolling new tunes, you know, playing. I'm not, as you all know, the online gamer, which we'll get to a second with the vision. So having this thing and making, you know, the guild for kind of funny or for IGN Superfutable.
Starting point is 00:32:33 fans at the time and then meeting random people who I then did start okay I'll see tomorrow we'd sign on and play together and run the same raids and do the same things and grind out missions and stuff but people I you know his name was Anthony he shot me a email not too many once ago and we chatted up for a little bit of like the first time in the years talking you know
Starting point is 00:32:49 what I mean uh that game is just so so special to me um and that's what I think you start to go into when you get to the modern games right uh you you were nailing it of like there has to be some Vita representation on this I love Luminous. I think Luminous is the best puzzle video game there is
Starting point is 00:33:07 and I'm putting it mainly up against Tetris. Another game I love. Oh, I didn't think about Tatrice. Luminous is so much more for, I think, dynamic. I think there's just more going on. You're more in control. I think obviously you can jump to Tetris effect and how great Tetris Effect was. I'm not taking away from
Starting point is 00:33:23 that. Luminous, however, has always kind of Ben Tetris Effect in terms of the music, the visuals, this thing changes, all this amazing stuff and effects happening on screen and you feel like you're doing all this crazy as shit and it's awesome. There's a new one coming up. I can't wait for Luminous RISE. But Electronic Symphony was a Vita launch game.
Starting point is 00:33:38 It was the opposite, I would say, of most of your favorite games going online, Tim. I don't know if it happened for you as much, but I remember, man, I was so good in my friend group at video games. And smash roast. Yeah, and
Starting point is 00:33:54 for me, it was NCAA football in Madden, right? And when finally online came around for those games and you got to go out into the wild and get your shit rocked. They were like, Oh, I'm not actually good. For me, though, I will say my one claim to fame, it was Tony Hawk. Yeah. And that was someone else had that experience.
Starting point is 00:34:11 It wasn't me. Well, that's my thing with Luminous. We're Luminous, like, you know, I fell in love with Luminous on PSP. Like that way, you know, when I bought my PSP after graduating college, Luminous and everybody's, or Hot Shots Golf, Open T, and Ghostbusters on UMD are the three things I bought with my PSP. And I would sit there and play Luminous. And I remember it was at the time me and my ex would pass it.
Starting point is 00:34:32 back and forth on runs. And luminous, you know, has a bunch of different modes now, but in reality, it is just how long can you go? And it would be when it was my run, I was talking about an hour and a half, two hours before I would fail and pass it back to her. And she would be like 30 minutes, you know what I mean? So it was like, I felt like I was different, but I had no way of knowing. And when electronic symphony came, it is that rare occasion of, it was just the, you know,
Starting point is 00:34:54 reviewers that had it, but like, me and Dale North traded stuff back and forth. And I remember him posting somewhere, like, when it came out of like, Gregman was really fucking good at Lumen. It was like, oh man, like that's so cool that like someone else recognizes that I, yeah, I'm this, whatever, you know what I mean? So I, I'm interested in this, the pick of specifically electronic symphony. I know you just explained all of that, but. Then to dive into it, it was that the Vita has a number of reasons it fucking failed. It did not need a front touch. It did not need a back touch. It didn't need to be bubbles. It didn't need to be fucking 3G and all this shit. Luminous electronic symphony, they start with luminous as they go on, how do you fucking change it? They start adding in power up. and changes. In a luminous electronic symphony,
Starting point is 00:35:34 it was the back touch that you would go to a certain place and with your combo and hit it and drop it in like rack up fucking crazy high scores. And it actually worked really well and it actually made the gameplay better. It was one of my favorite power-ups
Starting point is 00:35:46 they've added to the game where I was like, oh, this actually is a, I'm strategically going to drop it here or there. I know what I'm saying, I'm building it up, when am I going to go, bam, drop it drop.
Starting point is 00:35:56 Is this pick for you? Kind of a mix though of the pick would be to get to know you. It's luminous, but this is also you need Vita because that is who you are. Yeah, 100%. Yeah, yeah. I think there needs to be a luminous game on here for me.
Starting point is 00:36:08 And yeah, something that can then represent Vita, I think so well. Yeah. You call it out like persona four golden. I adored and reviewed for IGN. And that was on the heels of having played persona four on PS2, persona three on PS2, reviewing persona three Fez on PSP. Like, I love all that. But like, as we've gone through on the show this year, I'm just, yeah, this year,
Starting point is 00:36:25 I'm not JRP guy. And so like, it isn't, it's similar to me with stick with me. Taylor Swift fandom of like I was for many of you if you're old the first probably adult male you heard say oh I love Taylor Swift like I showed up at IGN banging on about the fucking Taylor Swift debut album like I was listening to Tim McGraw in Columbia Missouri right and like I remember that was like quaint and funny oh Greg likes Taylor Swift ha ha ha ha and like she's obviously so humongous right but at some point that fandom the swift ease and how they engaged with it became so much more
Starting point is 00:37:01 like, oh, I'm not that. Not that I'm talking shit about that. I respect that. I just don't, I can't, I can't claim that my Taylor Swift fandom is as intense as that. It's the same thing with like persona, where persona eventually broke into this huge like, okay, okay, you guys are into it to another level than I am. I just enjoyed the game a lot. But, blah.
Starting point is 00:37:18 So yeah, Luminous over there for more modern thing. Infamous up there from Sucker Punch, right? Again, a quaint idea to talk about now, this PlayStation 3 game. But before we were getting decent superhero games, we, we're just getting garbage superhero license games. And so when it was, guess what? The folks who did Sly Cooper are the Sony-owned studio called Sucker Punch, they are going to go and do their own superhero game
Starting point is 00:37:43 where you can be a good guy or a bad guy in an open world and run around and do all. It was like, no way. That was such a dream game for me, especially being on the PlayStation team at that time. And then to get it and have it just be so fucking good of running around Empire City and being Cole McGrath and having these electricity powers and the good ending, the bad ending. and I wrote about it at the time, right?
Starting point is 00:38:02 Like, we got review code for Infamous right when I got divorced. Or was, you know, me and my ex-wife were like, we're going to split up or whatever. And so it was these like coming home with this game I had waited forever. And me and Portillo in this sad apartment, you know what I mean? Playing this thing nonstop and how much I threw myself into it. And the platinum journey for it, I always talk about, you know what I mean? Like, again, stories of, again, I'm old taking digital, taking my digital camera, taking pictures of the screen because I had one thing.
Starting point is 00:38:30 fucking blast shard left to find and there was no way to find it like easily taking and then going block by block at my desk at iGA with a red sharpie and crossing out every building every section every quadrant until i found this final fucking blast yard right like that is so tied up in gaming and who i am in that experience so how much i love that and how much i want to remaster how much i want a collection so this to me definitely is what i was talking about like the beyond representation sure yeah that ps3 era but that means no uncharted no last of us do you want to talk about that a bit Yeah, I mean, I don't think I ever, last of us I love, but I don't think I, I was never, I mean, in terms of like, whose light burn brighter, Colin was always way more into that on Beyond than I was. And not into it, but like, I don't know, there was something, it connected more with him.
Starting point is 00:39:17 And I think I did connect so much with the Uncharted and the pulp and like Nathan Drake. And again, you talk about the beyond era of it. I think especially with Walking Dead, you, so much of a lot of this stuff is tied to. up in the up at noon era. And I think we're so lucky with up at noon and then PlayStation first party during that PS3 time of suddenly the voices mattering. Like, you know, Uncharted wasn't just, this is a great game. It was it's Nolan North and it's Emily Rose and it's their first, it's Emily's first gig out of acting school and Nolan's been in all these million games. And now, wait, hold on, he's in this and he's in there. Now he's into a million different things. It was really
Starting point is 00:39:55 explosion of that. And so Uncharted as a franchise holds such a special place in my heart. heart. But I don't often think back to wanting to replay those games or do this whole thing. You know, I enjoyed them for the movies and the blockbusters they were, but they didn't leave this lasting impact on me. I talk a lot about, especially when we get into some of the other ones, like video games leaving a thumbprint on me. Like, and that's what I'm talking about this DNA thing, where I think Uncharted defines so much of that PS3 era and having, we're talking about Beyond and we're talking about PlayStation All-Stars and we're, you know, doing the thing. But like in terms of a game that like, like I can lock in and remember Empire City.
Starting point is 00:40:33 You know what I mean? Like that's infamous for me rather than uncharted. And so you can throw it back out for me, just leave it up. You know, you move off of that. And I think an easy transition to the walking dead, right? Like, you know,
Starting point is 00:40:44 tell tale had been making adventure games, point and click adventure games for a long time. And it was one of those where I always wanted to like in a telltale game. And it was always so fucking annoying because I'm not a point and click guy. So when they would do, I have this definitive memory of going to, San Diego Comic Con for IGN, probably 2008, but maybe I'm wrong. And I had a demo at the Telltale booth. And I used booth so loosely. It was a card table with a CRT on it running
Starting point is 00:41:11 strong bat on Wii maybe. And it was like, I went over there and did it and it was like, wow, like every, and it wasn't like the other booths didn't suck. It was just Telltales that sucked. And it was like such a, oh, okay, cool. We're doing this. And then, you know, Telltale started taking these shots and like, hey, we're going to do back to the future. I'm such a back to the future fan. And I was like, okay, like, I don't like adventure games. I don't like, I click on the coffee cup. You don't have what you need here. I try to combine coffee cup with ice.
Starting point is 00:41:35 That's not what you do here. I hate that fucking shit. Like, it just doesn't feel like I'm playing a game at all. It feels like I'm doing menial tasks. And so back in the future, like, I've struggled through because the story was so good up until it totally wasn't. But it was like, okay, cool. And then I reviewed those priorities, I think. And then I reviewed the Jurassic Park games, which were not good.
Starting point is 00:41:53 And in the middle of all this, there was an event in San Francisco where they were like, hey, we're announcing two games. Come on down. And I came down to do it right. And it was they announced the Wolf Among Us and they announced the Walking Dead. And so many people were stoked for the Wolf Among Us and I didn't have any reference for that fable series or anything.
Starting point is 00:42:11 But I loved a little pudgy comic book creator named Robert Kirkman. Oh yeah. I fucking adored this guy named Robert Kirkman because in 2005, in my capstone class at Missouri, my last thing before I graduated, working at the magazine. I had been talking about how much I loved zombie movies
Starting point is 00:42:29 and the next day my editor Bob came in he's like, you said you like zombie movies, yeah? And he's like, you gotta need to read this and he handed me trade one and trade two
Starting point is 00:42:35 of the Walking Dead. And he's like, this is an ongoing comic series. This is all that's out. This is all that's out. And I think you'd really dig it or whatever. And I fucking devoured them.
Starting point is 00:42:45 And then at the end it was like, there's this thing called Invincible or whatever. And I was like, oh, okay. You know what I mean? I started reading Invincible. I think I had it by in singles at the time. I forget though.
Starting point is 00:42:52 but it was like I know it's hilarious if you're not a historian here of like no one knew what the fuck Walking Dead was no one cared what the fuck Walking Dead was comic books were not this giant crossover opportunity yet especially independent comics
Starting point is 00:43:08 so I'm reading the Walking Dead over and over again feeling like a man on an island about it the first piece of watching Walking Dead merch I ever saw outside of the trades right do you know this story no I don't remember a kind of oh Jesus that's gonna be hard to ever get over an IGN fan who really liked IGN met Craig Harris was like in New York for the
Starting point is 00:43:27 at the Nintendo store and was like I'm gonna be here and meet me up or whatever I think it was one or two people came one of them gave him a walking dead plush zombie that like the head came off with Velcro or whatever it was just a cutesy thing or whatever that man was Andrew Goldfarb oh my god Andrew Goldfar came in I have not heard that story that Greg love Greg Miller loved walking dead so he sent this thing that he had gotten it whatever collection or whatever and it was like that's like how scarce shit. So anyways, you jump to this event
Starting point is 00:43:54 and they announced a Walking Dead game and I'm like, what the fuck. You know what I mean? No one knows what this is. This is amazing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:59 And like, I remember doing the Comic Con interviews about that with the creators. They had nothing. They just had like, not even the key art. They had,
Starting point is 00:44:08 you know, like the concept art up on the wall or whatever. And it sounded so cool and it definitely sounded like a game that was never going to happen. And it wouldn't, even if it did,
Starting point is 00:44:15 it's going to be point and click and shitty and yet, yeah. So when walking dead finally gets here right. And it is what I, want out of those kind of games. I know not every adventure fan wants, but it's just let's make choices. Let's
Starting point is 00:44:25 just make choices. Let's see what, let's have an interactive storybook here. Let's fucking do the thing they wanted to do in the movie big with a comic book. You know what I mean? Choose your own adventure. And then the voice acting and performance. And again, this is such a, let's talk about up at noon. Dave Fanoi, Melissa Hutchinson, Gavinham, and friends for life. People I still
Starting point is 00:44:41 shoot the shit with talk to run into all the time, obviously, because we're so, we fucking stayed at Dave Fonoy's house when we went down. Which is insane to think about. When we went down to podcast with Kevin Smith, we stayed a Dave's house and podcasting with him in his backyard until the middle of the night. Epic. Uh, like, you know, you talk about like, but that was like such a moment of like, whoa, wait a second. Voice acting is a thing, let alone, whoa, wait a second. Walking Dead is about to be a thing.
Starting point is 00:45:03 And like, it was a rocket ship of like the success of this game, the success of these people, the success of the IP. But then outside of all that, how fucking good this game was. Like watching it and playing it, moments a moment, me and Mitch Dyer doing our little, which started as just us going in a conference room and then started became content of film. because I jean was like we should probably put these up or whatever and then again like the finale right of like spoiler for walking dead season one which i know huh-huh but like you know when lee gets bit at the end of episode four it was one of those like oh my god there's no way that they're gonna kill lee ever like that's just you want to do that in a video game you want to do that here they're gonna have some stupid hackneyed way to get out of it and then to start episode five and it'd be like cool
Starting point is 00:45:46 all this shit's happening do you want to try to saw off your arm and i'm like I've read the comics, sir. There's no way this is going to work. It's been too long, but sure you did it, and it didn't work, and he still dies, and it still failed. And it was like, whoa, and then have those conversations at the end, right, of never, I'm choking up right now, never telling Clem, you love her, right? Just tell her to keep her hair shorter, do this.
Starting point is 00:46:07 Lee Everett being somebody who really killed his wife. The game starts, and you're waiting for the McGuffin of like, oh, when is it? When are we getting the Andy Dufray, Shawshank, Redemption? No, he killed his wife, and he's not a good person. It was like, whoa. And then to get that ending, which was so powerful, I will never forget, telltale notoriously, as you probably know, games came in pretty hot. Pretty hot and didn't work well often. But when they finally had the episode done, like they came to IGN.
Starting point is 00:46:35 It was like they finished it that afternoon and then came to IGN and we did it in the demo room. And it was me playing and it was a couple other people who I'm not going to name a bunch of different names. But like people in there playing. And I remember playing it and like getting to the choices and doing the things. thing in this giant beautiful, you know, projector, everybody in this theater playing. And I remember getting to one of the final choices and they just like that, like, the most painful sob from the back of someone just catching in their throat. And like, you know how when you really are trying not to cry and like fucking losing it as we did
Starting point is 00:47:03 this. And then to get it in like the song, Take me back. Oh, take back to take it. Like, and Clems there. And like the thing in it. And it just ends. And it was like, oh my God. Like what a fucking landing.
Starting point is 00:47:14 What a fucking experience. And again, like, in the same way I talk about. Metal gear and this is where it could go. Clearly at this point, like, games are already my career, my life. But it was like, man, we're doing it. Like, where people are actually doing it. They're telling stories in doing such cool shit with it. That's such a heartbreaker they came back and did seasons two and more.
Starting point is 00:47:32 That God, if they would, if we, if Telltale could have just walked away from the money on it. You know what I mean? And I know how hard that is. But like, Clem is done. What happened to Clem? We don't know. Maybe you'll find a note about her one day in the future. We're just going to go.
Starting point is 00:47:45 Like, that would be in the pantheon of greatest games of all time. think the subsequent sequels and the graphic novels, it all just watered it down so much where it just became content, where it's like, now you can't even have a definitive thing of what happened there, even though I did like obviously the other stuff, but whatever. Real quick, I sent this to assets. This is what you're talking about of us being at, Dave from Noyes House. If you could bring this video up there, but it's in the backyard, which is so freaking epic.
Starting point is 00:48:13 The craziest thing here, Greg. Yeah. This was posted on January 2nd, 2015. three days before we announced we're quitting IGN. That's wild. And we do, obviously. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But like, dang, what a time capsule.
Starting point is 00:48:26 Yeah, those are, that was fucking insane. Very special time. Very, very special time. Can I see much thing again? Sorry, I ranted forever about Walking Dead, but I guess that's what this shows about. Yeah, and so, well, yeah, you want to hear about, oh, you know, let's stick with special. Let's go to Gone Home before we get there. This is one, the chat pegged and then you tossed in there.
Starting point is 00:48:45 Another one of, God. was it i i i love it that i've told the story so much i've forgotten the details now i forget if it was mitch or if it was justin mcclroy or who it was but so i think it was justin somebody on twitter was like yo if you haven't played gone home go play gone home right now like don't wait don't read anything about it yeah and there'd been a little of a scuttle butt at igon about it at the time or whatever uh and i was like okay i'll go do it if we're and i don't think we were we were we were still at IGN, yeah? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:18 When it's, okay, okay. Yeah, I'm sorry, it's times of flight. Yeah. And so I was like, okay, like I, I, I, somebody had told me to play it. It had been out. It wasn't, you know, whatever, but it was one of those classic things. It was on PC, PC gaming at the time was cumbersome. And for me, incredibly cumbersome and wasn't intuitive.
Starting point is 00:49:34 But I fucking, I, I trusted. I had heard enough that I did it. I dragged the tower. I connected to the TV. I sat there like a moron with the mouse and keyboard on my coffee table to play it. And yeah, you know, the story of the story. with gone home goes of just like jumping in and being like okay it's a horror game it's a haunted thing i keep reading about sam and loni and they finding their supernatural books and the tv's on and
Starting point is 00:49:54 nothing's going to blah blah you know if you're not familiar with this of course it's about uh katie greenbriar coming back from a year abroad i believe it is she shows up at her family home opens the door no one's there lights are on tv's running what the fuck happens and you have to pick up things around the house is contextual clues to piece together the story that's and so playing that game the entire time it was and i'm a supposed to everything for going home. It was like, okay, cool,
Starting point is 00:50:17 I'm waiting for the ghost. I'm waiting for the thing. I'm waiting for the jump scare. I remember like, you know, the room where they were doing the seance, like coming in, stepping out,
Starting point is 00:50:25 like, doing the thing where you're moving the wall, turning around real quickly, like, where's the jump scare going to be? And you play through and you find all these things, you find all these things together. And like slowly, but surely as you play,
Starting point is 00:50:35 you know, this subplot starts forming of like, oh, like Katie's sister really like this other girl. Okay. Oh, okay. Oh, she's, oh, she's discovering that she's,
Starting point is 00:50:44 gay oh that's really cool blah and then eventually it's like wait this isn't the subplot this is the plot of the game like the game has never been a horror thing it's always been about what the fuck happened to katie's sister in this relationship and finally i'll never ever forget the finale of that game where you finally get the last piece of paper the last clue that leads you to the last room and just sprinting to the attic so terrified of what i'd find right and then getting up there and finding what you find and doing and i remember the credits rolled and i got up and i walked in I hug my ex. Like I just walked into,
Starting point is 00:51:14 Christine was playing probably Guild Wars 2. I walked in there, I just hugged her. She's like, what is wrong? And I'm like, I just played this fucking touching game. You know,
Starting point is 00:51:21 here we are now, everybody. You know, this game about like, you know, like, put me in, like again,
Starting point is 00:51:26 what I love about video games, right, is literally putting you in someone else's shoes like that and letting you experience it and the way the VO worked and the storytelling and the drip feed.
Starting point is 00:51:37 It was just so special. Again, and I think you go back to this DNA of Metal Gear of what games could be and what they could do and the stories they could tell you. I was like, fuck, that's just, it blew me away and you've heard me talk about gone, gone home for years and years and years and years. From there, yeah, there's two interesting choices, but not if you know me, obviously.
Starting point is 00:51:55 The Division 2 will jump to, of course, love the Division 1, love the Division 2, but it was that thing of, I do not think of myself as a multiplayer game. And that was in this, that was before kids, post, Ben, I'm definitely not a multiplayer gamer as I find with Arc Raiders where I feel like such a when I'm like, all right, Mike, I'll see you on around 9, 10 o'clock. And then, of course, something goes south and I do not get on now. You know what I mean? Division 2, though, was life. Like, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:52:21 Division 1 was so good. Division 2 was even better. You know, it got credit for launching and not being broken as shit. It actually worked. We could play it. You know, a game I sunk hundreds of hours into running around Washington, D.C., platinuming that game. Again, having a crew to run with, you know, earlier people were guessing about a million
Starting point is 00:52:42 of things that were on here and I saw people surprised that Avengers wasn't on here. Avengers did almost make it because I think Avengers for all of it not being a great game, which is admitted like it was another division two of like, I have a crew. You know, me, Sean, Goldfarb, Tam, we're getting on and playing Avengers. Division two was I have a crew, but it was way bigger of like, it would be Tam, it would be Andy. It could be this. It could be that. Yeah, I definitely like, I didn't say this for you, but like that was a mistake on my part. Like definitely. And it would have been the thought process of is it this or Avengers? And I think for everything you're saying, I would have went to Vision too because it, uh, it, the way that you talked about the game and what it
Starting point is 00:53:19 did for you and how it did change the types of games that you like and yeah, even single player stuff, even just like the, the way that you're kind of just like, you like loops in games. And I think that that the division kind of like gives you that in like such a specific way. That I think even more so than like an Assassin's Creed Odyssey as much as you love it. I'm not that surprise it's not on the list. Well, you'll have it by one. And then I can't wait to get to this next one.
Starting point is 00:53:49 Uh, yeah. Oh yeah, so yeah. So yeah, so yeah, sorry. Breaking email about redacted stuff. Uh, yeah, division two, again, a multiplayer game that,
Starting point is 00:53:58 yeah, just got me and, and sucked me in in a way that like, even DC Universe online and MMO so different than what division two was as a shooter. I'm not a shooter, right? Like, it's really not what I like to do in games.
Starting point is 00:54:09 And it's so, good that even now, Ark Raiders, I see so much division in that. Not only did I get it when I heard about it and watched it, I'm going to play this because of the division, I then started getting it for people in the old division crew. Like I sent Richie a game. You got to play this. We got to get in there. You're going to love this. Sean,
Starting point is 00:54:24 we missed Avengers. I told you this the other night. I got you, come on. We got to go. We got to go play together. We got this thing. And then yeah, final one on here is Starfield. Ha, ha, ha. Fucking nail. I adore an open world
Starting point is 00:54:38 RPG, a Western an RPG however you want to define it. I would always say a Bethesda RPG which does include Outer Worlds 2 which does include a number of different games. For me of course it's all about characters in setting. I've tried, I've given
Starting point is 00:54:53 Kingdom Calm deliverance to the college try everyone. It's just I don't like that setting of medieval times and I just didn't like space. I'm not saying that means you like this but you're a change man you've grown looking at this list Greg from knowing you for as long as I have. Yeah. It's so much developed.
Starting point is 00:55:09 right so much has changed over the years yeah yeah yeah uh but it was that idea of like so much has to click and so yeah when you know i fucking love fallout period you know what i mean skyrim i played i you go back and look the old podcast i 45 hours or whatever and i i enjoyed the shit out of it but again i don't like that setting i don't need i i wasn't pulled through the story i was pulled through by getting stronger and leveling up and doing that shit fallouts are my jam it fascinating that you know you were debating which one to put in there you said New Vegas. I still have not rolled credits on New Vegas. Yeah, I just don't think. I just don't fucking know.
Starting point is 00:55:43 I know. I think there's content there where I do, I think, at some point want to do a hey, either a marathon stream or just multiple days where I just play New Vegas where I don't, because I always when it came out, I forget what else I was reviewing, so I didn't do it. And I, I've made
Starting point is 00:55:59 this argument before that your first fallouts, the specialist fallout, so like fallout three was so good that New Vegas, even though being better or whatever, the setting for fallout and coming out of the vault, I love being a vault dweller. I always love that idea of coming out wide-eyed what's happening. That's not what New Vegas was. I've restarted New Vegas on a trip back from Canada where I put five hours into it.
Starting point is 00:56:18 And I was enjoying it, but it didn't grab me in the way of like, oh, man, I get white people love this one more than other ones. But I know that there's payoffs and all these different things. So I need to sit down at some point and commit to it. But I digress. For me, Starfield's that one that came around and I think for all of its rough edges, for all of the reasons Starfield is not on anyone's game. of the year lists ever but me.
Starting point is 00:56:41 It is that idea that Starfield is the one that got me to role play. Starfield is the one that has changed the way I play RPGs going forward. If you've caught my Outer Worlds 2 coverage this year, right? Like, I came in here with D&D character sheets and I made two characters
Starting point is 00:56:58 and I committed to playing as those two character builds through the thing, which then influenced the choices I made. Before this, right, I'm making Taylor Swift. I'm making Kara. I'm maybe making myself. I'm making Clark. and inevitably what that means is I'm going to be the good guy I'm going to be the good guy
Starting point is 00:57:13 and then it's like okay I'm just the good guy I'm just doing this and I'm not really well that would be a bad why would I say maybe if I'm trying to be it just doesn't work and Starfield started off so rocky it's got a very weird start to Starfield especially when it was we were coming hot
Starting point is 00:57:26 off of Baldur's Gate you know you dropped in you do this thing I remember getting to Constellation and being shooting everybody in the room in the face nobody died and nobody got mad and I was like this fucking sucks this is trash but I'll keep playing because that's a Bethesda game and this is what it is.
Starting point is 00:57:40 And there are the rules to a universe you play him. And again, played for a while. We're getting spoilers. And of course, there's a gigantic Starfield spoiler cast for you to go listen to. I think two now, right?
Starting point is 00:57:50 Or is it just one? Where eventually I'm playing. I made myself, but I didn't like how I looked. And so I was like, you know what? I'll remake it. I went in there.
Starting point is 00:57:58 I let the character creator inspire me. I got somebody who kind of look like Becky Lynch. I changed. I rename her Becky Lynch. She's Becky Lynch. Okay. No, I'm not worrying about what Becky would actually do in a situation.
Starting point is 00:58:08 and then we'll let it go and then yeah I found that Mantis storyline and it was like this person was Batman and I have now found the Bat suit and the Batmobile and I am a person
Starting point is 00:58:21 who is a drift in the galaxy looking for a purpose this is my purpose Becky Lynch is now the mantis she will now be the defender of this this gives her something to do okay and then I committed to that
Starting point is 00:58:32 and then I committed to the narrative and like you play through that game and as the old story for Greg goes I started really viving with Andresia. I was like, okay, cool, you're my companion because you're also like, you're a cultist. You're not, like, you're not, you're, you don't, Sarah Marshall was always up my ass about doing bad things. Oh, you should be, come on, shut the fuck up. Let me do it.
Starting point is 00:58:50 You know, you're no fun. You're wet blanket. Andreja was like, I exist in these gray areas. Like, I like you a lot for that, Andrea. And so we ran with that. And then it was that I had a glitch in the game, classic Bethesda, where you had to make a choice on who you went to help. And I wanted to go help Andreja's people in the setting, but the game wouldn't allow me do it. So I,
Starting point is 00:59:08 went did the thing she died that influenced the story that influenced the choices for becky blah blah blah blah and then you get to the end of that game spoilers and starfield has the best new game plus i've ever seen in a video game in terms of a narrative reason of like cool you have found you are starborn you can go through this thing called the unity and you can go to other dimensions and restart the game as who you are so you go there and then it turns out there might be slight changes to certain things and crazy like cut scenes you'll get there whatever but like you can go and do the whole thing and I started running these unities and doing these things and eventually I got it of like I'm gonna go save and draja and it was that thing
Starting point is 00:59:48 where I started I did it but I told them that I was Starborn and I was doing this and I was like fuck this I'm gonna do it again and I started doing like the thing you see a villain do I'm like no no this isn't perfect I can make it better I'm gonna go back through and I just kept going through the unity and trying to do it to where I did it and then I have my playthrough and I've married her and done all the things and lived all the life. But like even there, the other starborn in that play through came up, like, when they confronted me, are like, wait a second, you've done this before. You're just why, and they're calling me on the literal shit I'm doing.
Starting point is 01:00:20 And it's like, it is such a one and a million thing on a whiteboard somewhere, Todd Howard and team laid out like a pot. And I somehow got that play through where I've done the thing where like they called me on the thing. It's like, that game is so special despite its many flaws. I am not saying it's a perfect game because of those moments. And that's why I love Starfield. But again, for
Starting point is 01:00:41 the DNA building blocks of Greg Miller and who I am as gamer, I would toss it out there because of those experiences because every Western RPG I play, I'm chasing that high. I want the game to see what I'm doing and talk to me about it and let me influence it. So I think there's far better open world Western RPGs
Starting point is 01:00:57 I've played and then playing. You know, other worlds is great. That's not what this list is. Exactly. This is the 10 games. You know, Greg Miller. We said we were going to do Barrett's. We said we were going to do Joeys. We said we were going to do Cool Gregs.
Starting point is 01:01:09 Don't worry. We still will, just not on this episode. I'm looking at next week. Looks like there's some spaces. No promises, but likely. Likely we will do that next week because this is a lot of fun. And I saw a lot of people in chat saying that it's nice to kind of get to know us individually because there are a lot of new listeners and viewers that might not know these stories of everything that defines who we are.
Starting point is 01:01:31 as gamers. I do want to get to the super chats though. Super chats. We end the episode. Cam's writing in about Patupon. Any thought on that? I love Patapon. Patapon. Another one that is like so special to me. But I think the quest to figure out what the fuck was going on when PlayStation let us preview Patapon remastered and then didn't release it for three years or whatever kind of made it into a bigger thing. I love Patupon, period. Those are my dudes of the patapons. I love that gameplay. But again, it's not something that I, my mind drifts back to all the time. I also have no
Starting point is 01:02:01 rhythm. You know what I mean? And so yeah, for the four, five games I left off the list, but were there. God of War 2018 was at the top. Death and return of Superman on Genesis. Love it. Super Mario World, my favorite Mario, Pat upon and then Ocarina of Time. There we go. Juan Martin says just heard time after time in the wild, but I sang you have Twitch Prime instead. I was legally required to stop in Super Chat. Thank you so much, Juan. And you are correct. That is the law. Low school play says, did either of you consider adding Emily as a way? No. No. But like, obviously core memory, right? I think that to me is definitely like
Starting point is 01:02:34 to know my gaming career. Yes. I think that I would put that one in there. Yeah, I think that's like such a special kind of funny game. Yeah, him and Greg game. Totally. Let's play. But I've never ever gone back and replayed this. Yeah. You and me get fucking wasted and play him to get you play and I tell you about your choices and I do. Yeah, yeah. Nothing inappropriate was said. Sekaro says, Greg turned me on to Starfield. I'm so glad he shared his enthusiasm and joy for
Starting point is 01:02:58 it. Please keep sharing your joy and excitement for games that click. That's what we do. That's what we do here. That's literally what we get paid to do by you. Thank you so much. Red Misfit says, can I get one fast? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, from Greg. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, okay, yeah, you do that. You know what I mean? What are the other Greg tics? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:03:17 By the way, I love Starfield. It's awesome, and I think better than Outer Worlds, too. Oh, there you go, Red Misfit. Okay, great. There you go. And there you go, everybody. This was another great episode of the Kind of Funny Gamescast. 10 games to know Greg Miller. If you want more of this, let us know. We have a lot of people here. So, I mean, I'd love to hear Nick's list. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. And I think is like, like, yeah, oh, for sure, that would be the counterstrike surprisingly would be on it. A lot of stuff you don't know about Nick. Stay tuned if you want Nick. He's about to stream Arc Raiders with Andy and Mike.
Starting point is 01:03:48 It's going to be a good time. Until next time, love you all. Goodbye.

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