Kinda Funny Gamescast: Video Game Podcast - 2016 Predictions - Kinda Funny Gamescast Ep. 51

Episode Date: January 8, 2016

We take a look at the biggest games and predict what PlayStation, Nintendo, and Xbox have in store for us in 2016. (Released on Patreon on 01.01.16) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What's up guys, welcome to the first ever episode of 51 of The Kind of Funny Games cast. As always, I am Tim Getty's joined by the coolest doozy video games, Colin Moriarty, and Greg Miller. Hello. You still have the damn Nintendo champions. I'm still the Nintendo champion. One day, your next chance to win it, Toadstool Tour. We can see if you do it on YouTube.com slash Kind of Funning Games. Oh, my God.

This is going to be bad. I'm letting you know right now. It's going to be bad. When I kick your ass at Toadstool Tour, I'm well aware. You said I got to pick. I offered you tell me what game you want to have a. your rematch for the title in, and you said,

I get to pick. Well, I'm clear. I think it's fine. You know. GameCube's Toastool Tor. Yeah. This is one of those things

where it's like the, it's like a steel cage match. It might not be my specialty. But I still, I'm going to do it. And who knows what type of weird distractions all but. Anything can happen in the game. Yeah.

Anything can happen in the Nintendo World Championships. Kind of funny. Kind of funny. Kind of funny. Nintendo championship. So for those of you that have never seen this show before, well, we like to talk about video games and stuff.

And this is a very special episode where we're, wrapping up the year by predicting the next year. If you want to see what we thought of last year, you should go to last week's episode, episode 50, where we reviewed all the games that we played that year. If you want to see what our 10 favorite games are of last year and our game of the year, you're going to want to come back next week.

But this week, we're just predicting shit. Predicting 2016. So if you want that early, go to Kind of Funny. No, go to Patreon.com slash Kind of Funny Games. You can get that early over there. If you want all of this, whenever the hell you just want it's just going to come to you you go to youtube.com slash kind of funny games

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all right it's a funny world that we live in um so we're going to start this off big big games of 2016 So I have this whole list of games We're just going to kind of talk about them And you know Just just talk about them

Just see how big we think they're going to be Sure And all of that Mainly these are multi-platform games Okay Because the topics coming up Are going to be focused on the platforms You got your Nintendo

You got your PlayStation You got your Xbox So let's start off With a little game called Doom Doom Yes Okay How did it's big

How does big reveal in 2015 That Alpha has been going on Mm-hmm Do we think this is going to be a thing what do you define as a thing I don't know I think it'll be a thing I don't think it's gonna be like

one of the best selling games of the year I think it's gonna be a big deal when it comes out I think it's definitely gonna be one that a lot of people are gonna be playing talking tweeting about mm-hmm I'm excited for it

for the more single player focused sure first person shooter also it's doom how can you not get excited about doom Zoom it is you like the old dooms I was I liked I like Doom 3 a lot okay with the flashlights

sure yeah just because it was really pretty I remember that was one of those games where you take your friend to Best Buy and you go to the demo kiosk because it had everything on like ultra settings on the PC. And you're like, holy shit. Sure. You need to play this. Yeah, Doom 1 and 2 were big or seminal games for me in terms of like that was my first foray into PC gaming. That like really like I guess not hardcore, but like, you know, real PC gaming in man, did I fucking hate it?

Because I remember being awake to one in the morning trying to get drivers installed and I'm not making this up. And then, but finally, finally getting it to run. And after going into my parents' computer and. fucking around with all this background settings not knowing I was doing but finally getting running and playing it was like this is awesome and it was that like mature game that I probably should have been playing that yeah but man that was a lot of fun so to have it come back and be something that I think is going to be a big deal I don't know how great the game will be on these other things but it will be a big deal when it comes out I'm excited to see it yeah it's it's

funny you gave you gave a look when I said doom three like I was just too young for doom one and two dude three is great those those weren't things that I like they were way older than me sure then also I had no idea how to use a fucking PC back then but yeah Doom 3 was when I was like cognizant and reading about this game coming out and how good it looked and all this stuff. So, yeah, Doom 1 is, uh, I'd say one of the five most important games ever launched. So I think that it's, um, you know, it's huge that any Doom game would come out. And there's a story behind this game too, as we often talk about it. It's very torture development for this game.

So, uh, I'll be interested to see, yeah, how it all turns out. I mean, Doom is, Doom 4, as we thought it was going to be called has been tease forever. Remember, Doom 3 came out in 2004, 2005, maybe. I think it was 2004. So it's been a very long time. It'll be 12 years or so since Doom came out. Is this game maybe a big deal, call? Yeah, I think it's going to be a pretty big deal.

I don't think it's going to be a call of duty or battle field game, but I think it's going to be a pretty big deal. How excited are you? You're a big Doom fan. I love Doom. Yeah. Yeah, I'm excited for the single player. I don't want to play the multiplayer at all.

That's why I'm not even, you know, I could have gotten to the alpha and I'm just not really interested. Yeah, I want to see what Id can do. This is a different id and a new id. and id without its leadership or its old leadership. So I'm interested to see like what like what are they, what do they prioritize now? Rage was the last game they released and and,

you know, they prioritize fidelity, I think over substance. Well, sometimes with the, or they're known to do that with some of their games with CarMax kind of obsession with that shit. So now that he's out of the fold, I'm interested to see like what, what happens with this because they're really fascinating studio, even though a lot of their people aren't really there anymore. And everyone should read Masters of Doom as I'll remind you often.

Great book. Do you guys think it's going to be a 7, 8 or 9 type of game? Yeah, I would say 8's probably, right? Yeah. Your first step out in a long, long time. Shake off the rest and see what you got. Cool.

Dark Souls 3. No? It's going to be big. The last Dark Souls game. Apparently. The last Dark Souls game that From will do. I don't know if Bandanamika wants to find another studio to do it. They also, I think, were pretty clear.

that they don't want to do bloodborn again either. So I think that, you know, if Sony wants to do bloodborn and they have to find another studio to do that too. They want to do something else. People forget what Frum is capable of. I mean, Frum did, you know,

a lot of really weird shit back in the day. And I think they want to get back to that, whether it's like Kingsfield. They did that robot met game. What the fuck is it? Armored Corps? Yeah. So it's like, like, they,

they don't want to do this shit anymore. I don't really blame them. You know, like, God damn them and their success. So I don't think they want to be known for like one thing only. Sure. I think it's going to be a big blowout. That's respectable.

I think this is going to be like a big, a big, you know, conclusion to their trilogy, even though they've done really technically five of them at this point with demon souls and bloodborn. So yeah, I think Dark Soul Series can be huge. The division. Fuck yeah. Can't wait.

I can't wait to watch you get crushed. They've reiterated over and over and over again the last two months. So you can play it completely by yourself. So I believe them. You can play Destiny by yourself. You got an idea. So, yeah, I'm excited. The division's probably like my most anticipated game.

I'm so excited. I can't wait to see how it all turns out because that is such a cool idea. You know what I mean? And then like me and Alfredo are going to be out there. We already said that. You're all welcome to join us, but we do the thing where we don't turn on each other at the end. That's very important. We turn on each other at the end.

We throw you out of the group. Afredo and I've signed this in blood. Good. My favorite way to sign things with Alfredo. Dead Island 2. I don't think you think it's not even a chance of coming out. Yeah, no, no way. They just scrapped the whole thing.

No way. I don't think, I don't know if that game, maybe that game might not ever see the light of down. Oh, no, well, not that game, but they'll be a dead island too for sure. Not the one, Yager did that franchise. No, Yeager is no, no, no, no, no. Tekken's seven. Yeah, I don't care.

Yeah, no. So, Teckon's a weird thing where, I mean, you know, Street Fighter, I think, kind of had its resurgence with five, and it just kind of kept coming. And Tekon's just always been there. Well, Street, Fire has resurgs with four. Sorry, yes, four. And it's just always kind of,

but Tekken's just always kind of, But Tekken's just always been there, always releasing games, whether it's the tag tournament or the normal one. And I feel like it has the hardcore fan base that is small. But they're super stoked about this stuff. That's a great way to explain it. Yeah. Was announced to be a playable character.

They're doing cool things. We'll see. No, the street fighter versus Tekon, of course. Yeah, of course. Or cross-deck or whatever the fuck it's called. No, Tekken Cross Street Fighter. Yeah. It doesn't matter because it's probably not real.

Mass Effect Andromeda. Yeah, it's going to be a big one. I think it will come. come out next year and I think that I mean that's what they've probably targeted but I think it will will come out um that game's gonna be massive I think that game's gonna be really really cool I'm excited to see how it connects to the old trilogy and I I want to see um what it's all about you know a lot of rumors about what it what they're doing bring back the maco is one of the rumors that they're you know it's it's a clever kind of thing to get out of the galaxy completely you have to if you've played

mass fact three um to go to the nearest galaxy and have a story there but I still believe that it will connect back to this to the original story in some respect. I don't think it will do it immediately, but I'm excited. I want to see what they, what they're capable of. And this is without Casey Hudson. This is, you know, in a world post Mass Effect 3 fallout. Yeah, like, yeah, a game made in a vacuum, a game in development for a long time and gestating for a while. So I think there's going to be a lot of expectations on Mass Effect Andromeda, but I think that they'll probably, they'll probably meet them. I hope they go, I hope they stay quiet about it. I hope it gets a big blow out of D3 similar to fall out and then it's coming out this fall, you know, this fall. We don't have to tell you or show you or

anything. We don't have to do a preview tour. You don't have to have the first 30 minutes of it posted everywhere. I'm like, let's just get out there and go. What do you think's the likelihood of that happening? Not high. Not high. I don't know. I don't think it is. You do? I think EA'll do it where they'll do a couple different things and events and reveals next year throughout it. Ghost recon wild lands. I feel like that's just that was announced and then nothing. It also feels like it also feels like it also feels like one of those video game names that came out of a random name generator. Ghost recon is like, Wildlands.

Okay? Sure. Why not? Yeah, I haven't followed anything about that since that trailer. I mean,

that thing, was there anything? Like, has anyone even mentioned the game? Yeah, no. Like,

what are the people making it? That was the speccy. And they ended, what, the EA conference with it or whatever? You go to, no, UB.

you were, sorry, sorry, where it was like, yeah, the guys falling in ATVs and shit and were like, what the hell is this? Mm-hmm.

Yeah, I don't, I haven't thought one fucking second about that game. I don't, I mean, I don't think that game's coming out this year. I think that that's like watchdogs,

like where they'll string that one along for a while. We don't need that game. Yeah. And then South Park, the fractured butth, when do you think we'll see that? 2017. Yeah,

I don't think it's the next year game, but God, I would love to have it. I would love to have it this year. That was, last South Park game was so good. Yeah, but I don't think it's this year,

no. Unravel. Oh, Yarnie. I am stoked for this. What's up with Yarnie? Yeah. My dude. It's crazy that they,

I'll pop in there. often on the PlayStation store to redeem a code or whatever on the web browser version and they've been doing this for pre-order forever oh really it's just up there i'm like damn that's a lot of publicity for a little old yarny i'm glad yeah go get them yarny but yeah it looks cute looks interesting yeah i really want to see more about the game that's definitely one of the ones i'm looking forward to the biggest thing i think you know that when i think of yarnie i think uh when we got to interview peter more at e yeah at e3 when he was like yeah you know like we're not going to make money on yarnie but that's the risk or the the benefit of making, you know,

yeah, Madden and FIFA that we can go out and make these cool games too. That's great. Hell yeah, I'll be more. Deux, Mankind, divided. Do you guys care about this at all? I do, but the game was delayed, and I don't,

I don't know that I feel like, remember we talked about this? The explanation that they gave made it seem like the... They weren't happy with just what they had yet. Yeah. But they were so close when they, I mean, that game was supposed to be out

with this spring, right? Early spring. And now it was supposed to be out 2015. Oh, but originally. Yeah, then they got pushed it. spring. But then, yeah, then I got pushed the sun. I'm skeptical right now.

Everything I've seen for it. Like, I hosted that panel for them at a Pax Prime ride or whatever. And that was the first time watching. I was like, oh, this seems like they've addressed the problems I had with the original or it. Or it just wasn't. I didn't feel like it was fun to play it and feel empowered or whatever. And watching this now, I'm like, oh, okay, cool. And so when they originally said this, I was like, well, that sucks because they're missing their window. I thought they had a chance to be another dying light in their beginning of the year, hit before the big stuff happened. Here's this really cool thing. But now they have a chance to go on and be arc. night where there's like hitting the summer, Witcher 3, where you hit in this place where not a lot of big games are. So let's try to get some thunder. Let's try to get some speed behind us.

Yeah. Nick's not here right now, but he's stoked. Yeah. Nick is a big fan. No joke. That'll be the one game he plays next year. Yeah. So Battleborn and Overwatch. Are either of them going to be a big deal and can both of them kind of live in the same world? This, yeah, hold on. Let's take this one at the time, I guess. Overwatch is the Blizzard one, right? So, like, is that going to be a big deal to a, to a small group of people? Yes. And when those alpha codes and, or I think it was the alpha or the beta went off, people were going

nuts. People were going nuts. And the people that played it fucking loved. And that's the thing is like, there's a big group there that is going to be, when that hits, they'll be all over it. And we'll see if that then expands to make it a big deal, the bigger, a bigger, bigger people, bigger people, bigger people, to a bigger group of people. Battleborn is the one where it's the rock and a hard place trying to push up this giant

Steep Hill. When Randy Pitcher talks about that game, I get excited about it. When we interviewed him at the Game Stop Expo, I was like, this actually sounds cool. I'd like the chance to play this. I'd like to get further into it or whatever, but it's when they talk about it. I still haven't seen something from it where it's like, oh man, this

is amazing. I can't wait to be that character and that's guy seen like, you know, at PSX they come out and announce the, what was a koala? Penguin in a thing and it's just like, cool, all right, like, that's a game I need to play. I think people need to play and then we'll know more about it. But is it going to be super successful? No, I don't think so. I think it's going to be a really, really tough IP to launch

in this marketplace and say, here's what this is and everyone's going to say, why isn't it borderlands? They're like, we got to do have things, but it's kind of borderlands, but it's not. It's kind of mobile. It's not. The messaging's confusing on it. Uh-huh. Dissor. Did I nail that? I think so. Dishonored 2. Do you think we'll see it? Yeah, I think so. Um, based on the timing of dishonor, definitive edition, remember the fuck they called it. I think that I don't think you launched that too soon. I think that's probably a fall game.

I think it'll be, it'll be good. Yeah. Arcane doing anything. A lot of people like that first to something. Didn't click for me. I wish him well. Mears Edge Catalyst.

For sure it comes out. It's coming out. I don't, I don't think anyone, I don't want to say anyone. I mean, Mir's Edge is not an IP that has much resonance. I don't think that it's going to do gangbusters numbers.

I think this is something that they felt they had to do. Yep. This is another, let's stop being the most evil company in the world. Yeah. Let's make motherfuckers stop voting for us in that. So we'll give us. them things and change our mantra to gamers first.

And I believe that they believe it. Don't even wrong. But I think that's totally what this is. Yeah. I'm like, hey, you guys, you want to, a lot of you wouldn't shut up about this. So here you go. And it's not going to sell well. And then they get to say from there and I're like, we're doing, we're taking chances. We're doing Yarnie. We're doing this. And they ain't moving units. So that's why you're getting madden every year. I love, I love Mirz Edge. I'm excited for this one. And I think it's going to be good. But I do think it's not going to be great. And I think that, you know, the people that play it are going to swear that it's great, even if it's not that great.

just because they want it to be so much. Yeah. I hope I'm wrong about that. You can relate. I mean, we can all relate to that. I mean, I'm excited from Mir's Edge fans that they're going to get, you know, cattle.

I'm stoked for it, and it looks great. Like this looks what Mir's Edge, this gen should look and feel like and whatever. So I'm like, hell yeah. Hell yeah. But, yeah, I don't think it's going to be as good as it could be.

Gotcha. Euculele, I am so ready to see more of this game. And I really, really, really hope that it's good. Are they aiming for this year? Yeah. It's quick.

You're tired in October 2016. I think it'll be good. It's very quick. I'm sure it's going to be good. It's going to be very quick. It's going to be a relic though. So I wonder like what new newer gamers or people that have grew up with those games like we did what they're going to think about playing those games. Because those games don't exist anymore.

That's why I'm interested. What does the modernized banjoos from the banjocazoo guys look like and feel like and play like. You know what I mean? Because I yeah, if it is super anchored and what it was on N64. I'm like, oh, this fucking sucks. But I mean, I hope it's kind of like Shovel Night where it's, you know, it is those old games, but it is...

It plays with the tropes of it. Yeah, you know, it has that kind of like, all right, you're collecting these things, but that's kind of the joke and you're in on it and it makes it fun in a different way.

Sure. So I'm really rooting for that one. Mighty number nine. Yeah, finally. We'll see. We'll see. Yeah. I'm excited about it.

Where's your barometer? I'm more excited about it. Yeah, you've been all like... Yeah, it's hard to say. I'm excited about it. I just, I want to just get it over with. I don't even want to talk about it.

anymore. You know, like, I'm just like, let me play the fucking game already. So that's kind of where I'm at now. Let me play it. I'll let you know. Yeah. So in terms of Lego games, we got Lego Marvel Avengers. Which I'm in. Yeah. Aldrich Killian. The game of the year right there. I'll be, I'm looking forward to going back to the game awards next year and winning my voice acting. Voice acting. Yeah, yeah, that'll be great. Um, that looks cool. I like it. There's like 10 bazillion. It's all the movies. All the movies shoved into this thing. Yeah, cool idea. Um, in terms of telltale, we got. Batman we got Mishone walking dead mission. Mishone I bet yeah well Mishone

guaranteed yeah Batman you think it'll be have they said 2016 they haven't said it but I mean you don't remember that these are the guys who announced Walking Dead and fable at the same time and then walking dead finished in like it takes forever for tell-tale to move on things mm even Minecraft took a while to get out and then now a while but like not that long of a while like I I'm trying to think it's one of those where as much as you know column and me and everybody else in the world gives them shit about having a lot of franchises they usually are pretty good about spacing them out.

So it's like one or two running at a time, which I guess is actually a lie already because what Borderlands finished up while Game of Thrones was finishing up while whatever. Usually there's a cycle to it. I'm just saying, I'm going off the Game of Thrones cycle because Game of Thrones was announced at Game Awards

and happened the next year. Sure. So this was announced at game awards. Okay, I guess that's true. Yeah. I mean, like I'm thinking with Walking Dead schedule. Mishone's going to start the year for sure, and I bet you don't get Walking Dead season three

until about this time next year. They started, they put out in November, December, they put out episode one, walking death season three. And so then they would have to fill in between those things. But I mean, they've announced so many things that it's like the Batman announcement. I'm just saying I wouldn't put it past it that that thing starts in spring of 2017.

I'm pretty sure they already announced a Game of Thorne Season 2. Sure, I believe it. And they're going to want to time that and stuff. I mean, keep in mind, too, that they announced a whole bunch of Marvel games. They partnered with Marvel.

You know what I mean? That was at Avengers. We heard about that. Yeah. We've seen nothing about it. You know what I mean? So it's like. I'm very excited about Michelle, though.

Oh, yeah. When you pitched me on it, you're like, dude, it's what's happening with her in the comics. Right. Hell yes. Yeah. Like it's a really interesting, good idea of like,

you know, I think when there was that interstitial between season one and season two and they put out 400 days. We're all like, okay, cool. Who are these people? Oh, you're doing new thing.

And you get to the game. It's like, well, this didn't tie into anything really. That wasn't needed. It's fine. Whatever. It's new survivors. But why even do it?

Whereas this is like to keep you to remind you that the walking dead's happening and this thing and whatever. Like, let's go and actually work hand in hand with skybound and Robert Kirkman. And so like there's this jump in time and there's all these questions about Michone and like let's fill in that gap via this game. And like that's a cool idea. Yeah. Why not? Um, then we got so far cry primal.

I'm stoked. Yeah, I'm looking forward to that. Which is coming so soon. Yeah. It's crazy. Gone home. Finally coming to console. Yes.

I've never played it. Okay. So I'm, I want to have been ruined for you, right? I mean, I don't know. Okay. Because I, here's the thing is I know things that happen. I'm not sure if that is the thing that's ruined. But I want to do, it's a short game.

So I'm a thing to maybe doing it. a let's play up my first thing when it comes out on the good old PS4 no platinum trophy heartbreaking and I know it's a small game and everything else but fuck you Steve Gainer we already know that they want they released them

well they're not released no they've just confirmed on Twitter and to me privately well that makes sense I mean it's a two hour game that would be kind of bullshit actually but they have other stuff there's developer commentary so then it's a four hour game now if you're playing okay so then the final two no call on you know

we have I don't just say it already we had a little talk last year. Yeah. About this time, you know, predicting what's going to happen in 2015. Two games came up. Kingdom Hearts 3. Oh. Final Fantasy 15.

You're still holding out of that one, huh? Hey, you know. Kingdom Hearts 3 is not coming out next year. We have some time this year. It might still happen, you know? Goofy said it was coming out this year. Yeah. So, I mean, even if it didn't make this year, it's got to be close next year.

Yeah. February. All right. But being real. So with both of those games, Kingdom Hearts. 2017? No. 2018.

Probably, yeah. Okay. Final Fantasy. Maybe even later than that. No. Yeah, because now Final Fantasy 7's in the mix and those and the same fucking people are producing. Yeah. So here's my thing.

These are three games now that I am more excited for than pretty much any other video game. So it's like this sucks that they're just like fucking with each other. But it's like they're coming. They're out there. I just, I want them to space them out. I'm going to. Oh, they're going to play these games. They're going to space them out.

Final Fantasy 15 I still don't believe it's coming out in 2016 They can say whatever they want You really don't think so Nope That sucks man That really sucks

Why are you doing this to me Colin? I know that they said that I will not be surprised If they just bump it You know E3 or something like that You know

I'll believe Final Fantasy 15 is a real game And exists when it's in my PlayStation 4 That's when I'm playing it I mean that's the point Where I'm like You can say whatever you want

You can say 2016 All you want Until the game is in my fucking hands I won't believe it. Let's keep in mind that Final Fantasy 15 was announced

10 years ago, okay? 10 years ago. They're due to release it. So, you know, as versus 13, of course. Yeah. So this is not a game anymore to a lot of people, and I'm sick of hearing about it.

I'm sick of hearing about Final Fantasy 15. I'm sick of reading about Final Fantasy 15. I don't care. You know, like, I want to play it, and I'm sure it's going to be great. But when it's in my... hands into my system, I'll start to give it the time of day because it's too much. It's too much.

And people are giving too much benefit of the doubt about this game. And people are just, and I understand people are excited about it, but it's just, you know, just shit or get off the pile already. Like, like, enough is enough. Enough is enough. Yeah, I mean, you're right. I mean, I can't even argue against that. Like, my biggest thing with this is I was excited as shit for versus 13.

That was the game that I was excited for. 13 looked fine. But versus 13, I was like, this looks fucking cool. That first trailer, like, the one thing I'll get. them is the music's awesome and I remember that that trailer when he's walking up the stairs just fucking wrecking fools and teleporting and there's blood and I'm like holy shit this is this is what I want Falan fantasy to be and then you know for we kept seeing stuff year after year after year or conference after conference there'd be like these trailers that showed gameplay and showed story and showed

all this stuff I'm like this is incredible but why is it not here yet like it always square does a really good job of showing shit making it look like it's a lot closer than it actually is we recently saw this with Final Fantasy which I'm still shocked that we saw as much as we did. You saw, you really saw nothing. I mean, that was kind of the thing is that it's the same thing with Kingdom Hearts when I told you like a long time ago when we first saw that gameplay. I'm like, you saw nothing.

You saw a boy with a sword, a key fucking blade running down a fucking corridor fighting enemies for a few minutes. Yeah. They could have just literally put that together. Yeah, I know. With nothing else. But like other developers and shit, they don't do that. You don't even see the gameplay.

It is just a CG thing. And Fall Fantasy could just show CG. and call it a day. But the fact that at least they showed the stuff and told you what it's going to be like and allow people to speculate and shit. I like that. But my problem with the versus 13,

which now becomes 15, is over the 10 years, they've changed so much. The whole game has changed. Yeah, the whole game's changed. And even the story and there's characters that were cut. They have to change the story.

And it's just like, it sucks. And they had to because of the Fabula Nova Crystallus, whatever the fucking hell that is. But it sucks that this game is no longer the game that I've been waiting for. And now the Fallen Fantasy 7 remakes announced.

It's like, I almost, I'm like, guys, fuck 15. Like, let's just stop. They're not going to start. They're never going to stop. I know. I know they're not, but it's like I almost, I would rather personally, out of the three, I definitely want Kingdom Hearts and Final Fantasy 7 the most. Oh, you better, you better put on your, you better start playing the waiting game.

I am, and I'll wait. I'll fucking wait. Holy shit, I can't even begin to tell you when I think that game's coming out. The, the, uh, what you saw, you're like, you were making, and it's funny. You're like, we didn't see Tifa, right? And we didn't see all these things. I'm like, Teva's probably not even fucking render. They made this whole

What we saw was just Barrett and Cloud Fighting soldiers It's exciting what we saw But I'm like they're not showing you anything Because there's nothing to be seen yet They're saying things like they don't even They don't even have answers to questions About the way the game plays yet

They're like this might change and this might change We don't really know the answer to this We're excited about this but we haven't even rendered it yet I'm like all right Like Yeah go away I mean You know to get the first

Fuck out of my face. It looks like they learned a lot from Final Fantasy 15 that they want to put in to seven. And it's like, oh, for sure. It definitely feels like they wish they could just skip 15 at this point and just move on. I feel like the fact that we're seeing seven this early. No, that's just square. I mean, it's square. They do this.

They did they, they, I don't know. They're annoying. You know, like, I'm sorry. It's just like they, and I'm not even saying Square Enix as a publisher or their studios individually. It's just the Japanese shit with Kingdom Hearts and Final Fantasy and now have two Final Fantasy games kind of hanging out there and they're like yeah it's coming out in 2016 i'm like yeah right so it's just just disappear they better not do this they better not pull this shit with dragon quest that's all i'm saying

you know it's fun watching you guys hang out on a limb for years i mean like i don't care really at the end of the day but they start doing that with dragon quest 11 and i'm gonna be fucking pissed yeah you know because that's a game i actually i'll play final pants 15 and i have confidence that it's gonna be a good game i don't think they're going to deliver a dud i think it's going to be a good game but and i think kingdom hearts is going to be great i think i think i think kingdom hearts is going to be great i think i think 3 is going to be a great game. I'm very worried about 15 and I'm either going to

love it or hate it. I don't think that there's any middle ground. I'm not worried about 15. What I'm worried about is people's expectations of the 15. 15 is going to be good at the very least and it's going to be great at the very most. I doubt it's going to be this alter, life-altering role-playing experience and I doubt it's going to be bad. So it can't be

it can't be bad. Like I just it can't be. And that's the thing about Final Fantasy 15. I mean, it just it can't be bad. They released a bad Final Fantasy game was called 13. And they released it a couple more times. Yeah, and then they just insisted on releasing it over and over again, which is why they did the right thing with versus 13.

It just fucking cut the ties with that shit. Put the bullet in that horse's head already, you know, and just move on. And they did. They finally have done that, but it takes time. I don't think that they're going to deliver a game. I don't, Final Fantasy will suffer immeasurably if 15 is bad. I cannot imagine the response of 15 is anything less than good. And it better be better than that for them to really,

justify that I can't imagine how much of money they've spent on this game. I can't, I, you have to assume this game has cost them a couple hundred million dollars at this point. I mean, I don't, I don't know how you can't, the amount of time it's been working on,

they seem to have scrapped the whole thing, and then started it again, or at least altered it. They have a bunch of their big guns on, and I mean, a game of that caliber, an adjusted money, I think Final Fantasy 7 costs something extraordinary.

Like, I was just reading about it. It was something like $120 million. to make in 1990 in the mid 90s yeah that's with adjusted money you I they better deliver or they're gonna they're gonna hurt be hurting because that game's not obviously not been cheap to make and I'm I'm for the final fans 15 fans out there and people eager like you out there to play it I'm confident that it's gonna be good but I don't but I think everyone needs to set their expectations if this game does not come out in 2016 it's not gonna come out I that is

gonna blow my mind I feel like at this point it's like this is like this is really like, all right, it was cute that it didn't happen in 2015, but 2016, it's like, you fucking have to release this goddamn game. It was obvious what I was going to come out this year. I mean, the, based on what I saw in Tokyo and stuff, even 2014, like, no way. No way. And then I think

it was Tabada, I think, when I met with him with our friend Mitch, he said, the numbers aren't exact, but he said something like, we're 55 percent through the game. This was in 2014. And then I think at TGS, he literally gave them like 5% more, something like I'm not even kidding. I think it was like five or 10% more. I'm like, oh my God.

what are you doing? Yeah. But obviously the end of development ramps up. I mean, I believe that Final Fantasy 15 is probably done. Like, I think you can probably play it. Like,

beginning to end. But that's just the beginning of the battle for a game like that. Now they have to balance it and tweak it and rewrite shit and add shit and remove shit. Cut characters and remake. God damn it. They better revoiced that one blonde dude. Holy Christ. That was awful.

That was the only thing I walked away from for that demo when I played at a Pax East. I was like, whoa, man, that better be placeholder. And I think it was. I think they are going to revoice him. I have hopes. But yeah, I think, I mean, I'll be very pleased if it comes out in 2016. I know people are excited about it. I just don't understand how it's going to happen.

Yeah. Like, I just, what about anything they've done with that game gives you any confidence that it's going to come out in 2016? I don't see. I just, I just feel like it has to. They have to. Even if they give it a release date, I'll believe it when it comes up. Yeah. Like, I'll believe it.

the day supposed to come out, I wouldn't believe it's coming out. So, yeah. I get that, but I'm hoping you're wrong. Me too. All right. Is there any other games that aren't exclusives? Not that I can think of them. I have to really sit here and think about it.

Yeah, we'll run into it at some point. Next topic, Xbox predictions for 2016. Nope. I can't give the X. Yeah, no. I can't throw up an Xbox box. For a second. Yeah.

So what we're going to do is we're just going to run through the big exclusives I have written here. I miss any, and then we'll kind of just talk about predictions overall. Okay. Recore. Oh? You think it'll be 2016? Yeah.

I think it'll be, yeah. I don't. Yeah, I do think it will be 2016. One of us will be right. One of us, we're all. That's the only way can go. Do you think it's going to be a big thing? No.

I think it'll probably be good, but I don't think it's going to be a big thing, no. Not for that audience. I mean, it's a weird game to have on Xbox, I think. It strikes me as more of a PlayStation game, just based on the in a food needs involvement although you know it's being made by an American studio I just don't I don't know like

I don't see how the the Xbox audience seems to vibe more with shooters and racing games and stuff like that so I'm interested to see how like an action oriented third person kind of game does exclusively on the console Tomb Raider didn't do very well you know although two marters kind of a shoot yeah there's a lot of

extenuating circumstances on that one though right are you going to play Recore I kind of probably have to Yeah Yeah It's an Inifune game I played pretty much You're in a fan club card

I'll get revoked If you don't I kind of have to Next up we got My Xbox game The year 2016 Cuphead Oh

My God I hope we get that soon I hope we get that real soon That's gotta be close Like I want it in like February No I think you're getting That soon

That strikes me as a game That like disappeared Because they're fixing it I mean We heard about that I'm making it Ever ago Yeah I would like that

I mean that's the thing is we saw it There's all boss battles and stuff. And I think that's what they're going for. And that's what allows the level of animation that it has and the beauty that game is. But I would love it if it was more of a platformer. Like I look at that. I'm just like,

I want to jump on things. Sure. But it's so punishingly difficult. Yeah. It's going to stomp you out. It's going to break you. I love that. It's going to break you,

that sounds good. I want to gain the kicks my fucking ass. Okay. Microsoft's dumping money into it. I think that they have the money to make it right. And I think that's probably what they're trying to do. So I wouldn't expect to see it anytime soon. what's your prediction then

probably like the summer at the earliest that would say summer of Arcade yeah yeah oh yeah that's true scale bound oh yeah will we see it in 2016 at events and stuff I don't think it's gonna come out yeah

it's supposed to I think I mean when we saw it it wasn't running well so I mean and that's a very early preliminary kind of thing but the game I wasn't impressed with the game's performance I don't know that they need it I think that that be a game that can just take your time and finish in release in 2017

they have such a they have quite a few big games coming out. I don't think they need scalebound. I think you save that game and let them, you know, let platinum finish it. Big games like Quantum Break. Oh,

Quadricks me huge. That's gonna be a huge game. When do you think it's common? That strikes me, there isn't any, they haven't said anything other than this year, right? I don't think so. Okay.

Then I'm gonna say it would be... I can either see it being one of those May games that's like right before E-3, you know what I mean? Or September, right of being a September. You know what I mean? Because I think it's that big of a deal that Remedy's putting out a huge game and doing this cool thing.

But I don't think, since it's a new IP that I can go and stand toe to toe against, you know, fight people right on the spot. Yeah. Yeah, spring strikes me. I think it was supposed to come out this year. So I think that, like, that was the plan. So I think that they probably needed a little more time. But I don't know if they need like a year. So, yeah, we'll see.

Well, sometimes it gets down to just then marketing. If that was really the case, then they wouldn't have released Tomb Raider either, you know. True. Yeah. Rocket League finally coming to the expert. That's huge with a ward hawk Pretty fucking cool Gears of War 4 Obviously gonna be

Very excited about that Marquis title That's a fall game That's the fall game Definitely fall See of Thebes The rare game You think we'll see you next year

Probably not But I don't know that it matters Yeah that's just It'll happen Yeah It's like cameo Yeah I don't I don't think that

It's really gonna be super relevant to their To their lineup Not with some of these other games Crackdown Crackdown's gonna be huge I think that will come out If they were smart

they would release that in the summer, like an August game. And get out of the way of everything else and let it kind of breathe. I think that's going to be a big one. Do you think crackdown, so Crackdown to me has always been one of those games where like kind of like Mir's Edge where it's like people fucking love it and they make a big deal about it. And then it's announced they're like, ah, but is it really that big of a deal? It's hard to say because the original Crackdown, it's hard to say though because the original Crackdown came with Halo. Yeah.

So it's hard. That's like reading in the Zone of the Ender's success. True. Because it came with Metal Your Sal too. So it's hard to say I think people like Open World Games and Crackdown, the original Crackdown was like a collectathon I think people thought it was like too much

The second one I think people liked a lot So I'm interested to see like I mean it was a hit for sure And it's definitely like a cult classic But I'm interested to see the performance I've been the sales of this reboot one Everything I've seen for it I like a lot You know what I mean?

The fact they're talking about it being more like Crackdown one Or whatever then yeah It's stoked about that real quick too We always talk about Xboxes and RBEat April 5th, quantum break So yeah Oh, so I was right. Spring.

Wow, there's actually a release date. That's... Gamescom, they announced it. Oh, so we were asleep at the wheel on that way. I remember it. I remember. That's why I was asking. Yeah.

Yeah, I don't remember that. Halo Wars 2 is the other one. That's a big one. Ryan Clements, Dave Clayman, Eric Brodvick, pumped. Yeah, I mean, it's, I mean, Alfredo and his brother. Yeah, especially his brother. Holy shit. He put so many hours into Halo Wars.

And that's one of those games where it is a huge deal to a small group of people. And I think that small group is bigger. than people give it credit for. Yellow Wars was big. Yeah. And they did RTS right on a console. Yeah. And I think that's a big deal.

I think the whole thing, I think this whole game's weird. Like the, in a good way. They're working with a Sega studio making a, right? Creative Assembly, I think is making this game, isn't it?

That sounds right. And so they're working with like a Sega studio making a Microsoft exclusive. I think it's kind of cool. Like this is a, this is a more clever use. This is the way Sony deals with, with studios.

but even in a more kind of intricate way where they cultivate second party games from studios you might not expect and so yeah I think Hill Wars 2 is going to be a pretty big game but yeah not sell millions and millions of copies

but it's going to be a good game for them to have and I think people are stoked about that that's for the fans you know yeah definitely which is very very good for them to do that stuff yeah do you have any just predictions overall for Xbox in 2016 no I think that this is going to be

a make or break year for them in the sense that they're selling fine, they're outpacing Xbox 360 that's lost because they refuse to release numbers and they do that because they're losing and that's the same way PlayStation used to play it. So that's not a huge surprise but I think that they have their big guns now coming out. They had a great release schedule this year

with Halo which sold pretty softly and they had gears and rare replay and stuff but now with crackdown and quantum break and gears four and I mean this is a pretty substantial line up. So if they're not going to move, you know, more units this year than they did in the last, then I'm not sure that they have much hope of ever doing that. So I'm interested, I mean, so much prediction. I think they're going to be, I think they're ever going to year.

I'm interested to see their E3 this year because they have now kind of released all their big guns or all the big announcements are finally like things like scale bound. It's like it's inevitably coming and chronic breaks finally happening. There's been a halo. There's been a halo collection. There's there's going to be a gears. Yeah. There's been a gears remaster. So it's kind of like, I wonder what they're going to announce. Right. You know, like what is going to keep this kind of ball rolling? Sure.

I don't even know. That's a great point. New IP. Yeah. No, that'd be interesting. And they can go back. Like, I'm, I know it's like kind of a joke, but like, I'm surprised they haven't gotten. Yeah, exactly.

I'm surprised they haven't gone back to like blinks or like some of these smaller. Mm-hmm. Random things and try to make them, make them new again, you know, like, they don't have a huge selection of things to go back to. So, like, they, there are weird ways they can celebrate, you know, battletoes and stuff like that. Like, they own. Like they can, they, they have, they can celebrate their heritage. They don't have a deep IP heritage apart from these like three or four big franchises, which they really. And I'll kill her thing.

Season three, I think is also this year. So they're doing stuff. But yeah, definitely. They're making games. I feel bad for them because they're definitely making the right moves. It was really that, it was really the launch of Xbox one that really fucked them. And then the announce of Xbox one that really, really screwed them. And it's, but PlayStation 3 had a terrible launch too and it came back.

So, you know, anything's possible. Yeah. It's just that Microsoft doesn't have as many fronts to fight on. You know, they have, they can fight in the United States, they can fight in the UK. That's basically it. I mean, PlayStation dominates like everywhere else. So it's, it's a tough, it's a tough battle for them. Speaking of PlayStation, PlayStation predictions, 2016, going through their list of games.

We're starting off strong with amplitude. Fucking, finally, it's coming. It's a very early game. And it's going to be good. It's going to be real good. Yeah, it's one of those weird crossovers where if you were a Kickstarter, starter supporter. You're getting it in December. Yeah. If not, you can get it in January.

Right. Please go buy that game. Support this. You're a big amplitude fan. Oh, yeah. One of my favorite games of all time. I am so excited for this new one. Every time I've played it, they're nailing it. It is so, this is amplitude. This is amplitude. It sounds like amplitude. It feels like amplitude. And I'm like, thank you, God. I never thought another amplitude game would happen. Sure. Sure. It's so random and niche and just fucking there. But, who. It's the opposite of your Tony Hawk dream coming true. Yes, exactly. Like, they're doing this correct. Gotcha.

And it's weird too because, you know, Amplitude had licensed music, had Blink 1282 and had POD and had all these things. This one doesn't, which is a little like, like, I wish that they would because like knowing the songs always makes them funner. Sure. You know, more fun. But I always liked the original songs that were in that game. All the boss songs, all the really challenging ones were always made by harmonics. And this one is just entirely made of that. So I don't know if it's going to be too much, but so far I've been really.

into it. And I like that there's a couple of the original songs that are coming back. Great. Super Sprout. Whoa. Big fan of SuperSpark. Super Spro's a freeze pop. Mm-hmm. Yeah. FreeSpop's the best. Freeze pop is the damn best. Your mom keeps calling. She does. Do she want to be part of the show? You can just put her on. What does she think able to?

I'm not really sure. Tell me some amplitude stories about Tim. No. She would not even like she'd be like, is that the Mario? Ratchet and Clank remastered. Ah. Very excited about this game. I played a little bit at PSX. What did you think? I mean, it's great. It's Ration Clank.

I've always loved the way Ratch and Clank feels. The physics is right there for me. And just playing with the weapons is fun. It's what I like about 3D platformers. And anyways, Ration Clank always feels exactly how I wanted to feel. And that was one of those games where I, without platinuming it and whatever,

I wanted to get all the weapons. And I wanted to max out all the weapons. And I would play and I'd grind just to be able to grind them all out, to maximize all the shit and get up to the levels and stuff. So I'm very excited to go back and do that. Love to the first game. I'm excited to see how this kind of ties in with the movie. And I'm excited to see what the movie does for the franchise.

I think this could be a potentially huge thing for Sony because it's a new push in a direction that I want games to go. And I want, you know, to be a bigger deal. Nintendo's kind of doing it with the whole theme park stuff. And I hope it's a bigger step in making these things huge, like Disney. Like that. Yeah. No, it's going to be a very fascinating year for a rushing thing.

There's a huge window. of, I don't know, a gauge, like a meter where this game can do nothing or this game can do huge. Yeah. Depending on, yeah, it's the resonance of the movie. I do want to encourage people because everyone's like, we want Insomniac back. Like, we want to, you know, well, you better fucking put your money on here about this. Because I don't know how many more opportunities you're going to get with Insomniac working with Sony like this again. They seem to be going in their own direction and are being courted by publishers.

And if you ever want to see, like, resistance again done by the studio that should be doing it and stuff like that, then you better buy this fucking game. Yeah, I mean, that's, that's my whole, that's my whole thing is you want insomniac back, you're sad, you lost them real long, put your money on your mouth is, if it's good. Don't buy it. It's bad, obviously. It's not gonna be bad. I mean, that's the thing is like, this is like, it's gonna be bad. It's gonna be good. And it's so easy to be good. And it's so hard to fuck it's like pizza. Yeah, yeah. That's too much. They just going too far. They fuck it. Yeah, but what I'm saying is like this rat. Yeah. Yeah. See, that's like this. That's like fucking up a calzone or like taking big pasta or something. That's like, you know, they try to get all fucking fancy. Yeah. Yeah. That's too much. She's going too far. Also very early in the year, we got Street Fighter 5. That's. That's. That It's a big deal that it's a exclusive. Yeah, Sony jumped on this one. This is a very smart and shrewd move and a huge get for them. Huge get. I don't think you can underestimate how huge of a get that is for them. They're publishing it and seems like they funded it and it's secure.

It's not a time exclusive. It's coming to PC, but it's not going to come to Xbox. That's crazy. You know, it's like that is a big deal. And there's fans of Street Fighter that this is a game changer for them of like, if they haven't bought a system yet, this is the system they're going to buy, you know. Yeah, that's a, yeah, very smart of them to do that. I was very surprised when that happened.

Uncharted 4. Man, what can you say about it? Yeah, my game's going to sell millions of copies. I'm so excited for it. Yeah, can't wait. See how it all wraps up. It's crazy, it's the end. Yeah.

So you, I've heard rumblings. I haven't spoken to you about this, but do you think it's going to get delayed? Yeah, I mean, that's been my theory for a while. I saw Neil at PSX, I know you... He's so vehement every time I talk to him, every interview, every panel, that I'm going to prove Colin where you're already wrong. I love it. That's great.

Yeah. I mean, that's good. That's a good attitude to have. Yeah. It's one of those things where I hope I'm wrong. I just, I just think that they're going to find that they need more time and they should take it. And they'll get it. I mean, it doesn't matter. Yeah, exactly. Like that's the same game is no matter when it comes out. It's going to fucking kill. Because everyone's going to buy it. Last Guardian. Do you think we'll see it? Because the trailer did end. 26. It's going to come out. They have to fucking put it out. They can't do they can't push that. They can't not do that. After all this, after all this fucking shenannery. Yeah. What's that word?

shenanery. It's a version of shenanigans. And chicanery? After all the... Yeah. Shenanery. Go ahead and put it down. It has to.

Yeah. You can't put a date on it and now miss that date. They know that. They know that too. So they wouldn't have put it out unless they were supremely confident. That's a summer game, I think.

Horizon. Zero dawn. That's gonna be the big fall game. And I think that... I think Verizon can be fucking awesome. I'm excited by I think that's gonna be a big new IP for them. I really believe that. I think it's gonna be like a big uncharted type.

Yeah. No, no. everything we've seen looks awesome everything i'm totally in when people talk about it for me it's that's my concern of one of getting delayed that's when i get worried about getting delayed if it got delayed do you think it would get delayed till fall next year or it would be a spring thing it would be like it'd be like how uncharted slipped and that's where it went it'd be like when the order slipped that's where it would be like it would be one of those things where i don't think it's going to be a giant delay but it feels like that would be one of especially because it's so different it's so new you know

I mean gorilla's finally not making a kill zone game now they got to get out there and do all this and like colin's always talking about it you know like we need to see more of that how does it work well how does this open world RPG work? What are the leveling mechanics? Like where is it? You know what I mean? What does the HUD look like? What is the menu?

Yeah, there's a ton of beats left. Like almost marketing or PR beats that they have to hit with that game. And I think they will because, yeah, we don't need to see too much more in terms of the gameplay. I think we understand how the game plays. I think we need to, I think we need like all the things that tie the game together. And so I think you're going to see those things at E3 and stuff. I think you'll see the date of D3. I think it's probably going to be like October is when you can see Horizon.

I don't think it gets delayed. I hope it doesn't. That game's been development forever. So speaking to that. No man's guy. Yeah. When do we see it? When VR launches.

You have to assume... They said... Did they say summer? Is that another one I've been saying? Now my predictions and my calls, actions, I can't remember. I'm convinced that that's a PSVR launch game. Because I said so. That was, you know, my idea.

No, that was one of my predictions. I'm allowed to take that one. And I think you're right. I think, I mean, that's such a no-brainer. Yeah. I almost... It almost has to be. You know, so June.

I think it's when VR is going to come out. And... That's what we've been saying, yeah. I just won't they said a month on here you know since our three

the game is your and the guy and there's why you bearing in the lead in June 2016

finally this universe now remember yeah I remember this they announced it at June 2016

so that's when you and I what we were saying that's when VR is daily got it got it got it got it

you are maybe at the earliest I would say and then now you put them on day and I agree I mean

I think you have to I can't wait for the game um Firewatch finally happening Yeah, early in here.

Starks for that. Yeah. It looks great. Yeah. Campos Santos, they know what they got, man. I want to play that one. Very excited for it. Every time we play it, I've been like, this is fucking cool. Yeah, that's totally a game where I'm like, I don't need to play it anymore.

I see it at events and I'm like, no, I'm good. Yeah. Just fucking put it out, Sean. Pursona 5. That's a fall game. What I'm most interested with persona 5 is, is localization timing. And I'm wondering if the game was actually ready. And that might be ready and that they're actually.

Yeah, I think. I think they'd be very, very foolish to not launch that game worldwide at the same time. Which is not something you would typically do with the persona game, but persona has significant resonance now. Yep. In the West. And I think it's going to sell millions of copies of Japan.

It's been bubbling and bubbling. And now this is the one where it's going to boil over and explode. Yeah, so I'm kind of somewhat convinced that the game's done. And I think that they're, or they're polishing or like, you know, but that they are localizing. And I think that was probably a push from Sega and Atlas obviously to do that. So that's definitely a 2016 game. I just don't know, you know, don't know when.

I would assume October, September or something like that. Yeah, it would be smart. Fall game. Digimon Story Cyber Sleuth is coming to Vita and PS4. This is a big deal, guys. Is it? No, it is. Because it came out in Japan and stuff,

and we never really thought we were going to see a North American release. But they made it happen. There was a lot of petitions. People were like, no, we want this shit. And it's coming on Vita and PS4. So that's good. Okay. So people are asking if I'm going to play?

I'm definitely going to give this one a show. You're playing on Vita? Yeah. Yeah. Hell yeah. How about that, Digimon? All about that, Digimon. Yeah.

Digim. Yeah, then Rise of the Tomb Raiders come in eventually and Day of the Tenticle remastered. All that's great. What are the predictions do we have for PlayStation in 2016? I think PSVR is going to come out. I think it's going to do well. You do? Yeah, I think that they have, their target is a million and a half or two million, I think.

They don't have this, like, exorbitant target that's going to have an attach rate of one like if if the console's at 40 million by the time it launches then the attach rate will be like no more than one in 20 and that's going to be pretty successful yeah well it's something you say you think it's going to do well i mean move did well right like like i mean the way they spun it made it sound like it did well uh i don't know that it ever had significant residents and i think their expectations for move or longer this is part of the this is the first step of a very long game um to get these things out there and like i i truly believe as i said at the panel at psx that i think so

Sony's going to be very happy that they did this. I think that, like, it's so obvious that VR is the future. It's so fucking obvious. We're always going to play games with controllers in our hands and look at a TV. I don't think that's going to go anywhere. I think in 100 years we're going to play games like that. But I think that VR is so obviously the next frontier video games. I don't understand why anyone can put one of those things on their heads and play some of these games and not understand that.

So it's going to be like this slow trickle, but it is going to be a wildfire in 10 years. Like, absolutely. And so Oculus, Facebook, Sony, the studios that like, made the bet, I think they're going to be very happy they did. And so yeah, I think it's going to do well. I think if it comes out in June, I think they'll probably hit one plus million by the end of the year. I'm just worried about launch lineup.

That's it. If it comes down as No Man Sky and Res or one of the two and then some other Falkyrie. Eve, yeah, if they can hit it with Eve right away to it launch, then yeah, you're in a great spot. You're putting it on and you're having experiences that do make you. Holy shit, yes. If it is just job simulator, if it is just these little quirky games, 100 foot robot off? Yeah. Yeah, that

a zombie taxi driver company or whatever. Like that's when it's like, that for me is when I see the red flags of move when it's like, oh, I'm fucking going down a hill on a chair. Like, no, I don't want to play that. But yeah, put me in for Eve Valky. Put me in for No Man Sky. Let me play Res at launch.

Like, I mean, that sounds like an incredible launch line up. I know, and that's why I don't think it'll happen. Yeah. You know what I mean? That sounds like too good to be true. I know. I know. That's just insane.

But that's the problem is like, you know, when I was talking to Shuhay, both I had the panel a little bit, but then in the interview on YouTube.com, such kind of funny games. I was talking, when is the big reveal for PlayStation VR? When is it like,

here's what's happening and why you're excited right now? You know what I mean? I feel like when you put out the little quirky things, it's like, okay, whatever. And there's that you have to play it

to experience it, to know it, to know it, to put it on, you have to go do a round of rigs to be like, okay, I could get behind this or play res.

Like I didn't be like, holy shit or play Eve and be like, oh, you know what I mean? Like, is it GDC now where it comes out and here's the date, here's the price and here's the last one. Or they're going to do, or I think what's going to happen is they're going to do their own thing and just have a big event in Tokyo.

That's going to, you know, they're going to put out invites a week before fly everyone to Tokyo and be like, this is what we're going to do and how we're going to do it. And here's the launch lineup and here's the price and here's the date and, you know, go back off. I mean, the big thing, too, is what does it come with move controllers? Like, how does that? Like, what are they even doing with that? Because it's like, that seems like a big deal that all these games have these move controllers and who the hell has these. That's where the light with the PS4 controller comes back into play, I think, too. So it's...

You'd think they'd be showing the demo then with a PS4 controller. I think it's just not going to control as well with the PS4 controller. And I think that's why they're not doing it. I... The... The... The... Moves got to go away.

So, like, it's got to go. It can't be a thing anymore. I'm sorry. It's over. I'm calling it. So, its time is up. Time of death. December 13th, 2015, 2015.

529. Um, but I do think that, uh, they have to emphasize the dual shock four more, not even the light bar on it, but just the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,

we're not, like, we're not, like, we're not, um, so I think they need to emphasize, like, the traditional kind of bearings of these, of these games. I just think that there's enough morbid curiosity in PSBR that they sell a million, like, without games. Like, I really believe that.

Like, I think, especially the price is, like, really appropriate. And I don't know, that's going to be a big thing. If the price is, like, one 99, which I think is, like, really low, I don't think it's going to be that cheap. I don't see why it wouldn't sell very well. Contextually speaking. I think it's going to be more like 300 bucks though. So

that's going to be a story. They're going to have to, they're going to have to, VR's not cheap and they're going to have to, and they're going to have to either eat shit on it and just take losses. Which is going to impact all of Sony. If they want to push units, which could be that, you know, that's how

a lot of hardware sold too. Or they can sell it at a more appropriate price that might let them break even 249 maybe I mean I don't know I just it seems like $200 is like too good to be true you know like I don't I don't that would be too good to be true especially like considering that it's a meaty thing it feels good it feels like it feels like it's well done it feels like it's worth more than 200 I don't want to say worth more but it feels like it's cost more than $200 yeah it's intuitive and comfortable and like I was blown away when they finally with the reds folks misoguchi is like

yeah you want to put on yourself I'm like yeah fuck yeah oh my god like you know what I mean to do without like having four people come in and lower it on your head and like yeah I was blown away by the build quality of it. I'm super stoic-strike. Especially because Oculus for me has always been so heavy up front. Yeah. I don't know. VR is going to be the big question. That's going to be the big story in terms of like when we're when we're here next year reviewing, you know, 365 and we're like, well, how did PlayStation do this year? This is going to be the big thing.

And like, yeah, I think PlayStation VR on the price point and all that's super interesting. And I do think it's going to, early adopters will be all over it. But the problem is if the launch lineup sucks, it's going to be like move again. You know what I mean? Yeah. If all of a sudden it immediately back swings and everybody's like this fucking, I can't believe I spent this much on it. I'm just fucking playing robot golf. Well, two things. I think that one, your instincts

about E3 were right and sense that I think that a lot of these games like Horizon and stuff are going to be VR-compatible. The other thing is that I, so I think that that's going to be their trump card and be like, well, everything is viewed. Not everything, but like everything for the first party. Get lost in your world. You don't have a hundred inch screen TV. Put this on and like, yeah, maybe it's one of those things where it's like your phone

where you like you rotate it. You're not doing 360 with it. You know what I mean in Horizon. But it is. You look up and you look this or whatever. Like, there's more. There's more screen to, you know, be in there or whatever. My biggest problem is I love every time I've used it. I've been like, holy shit. Like, this is impressive. It's crazy.

It's a, it's a religious experience. It is like a holy shit. This is new. But the, I've used Oculus many times. And the build quality isn't there. It is too heavy. And those are just dev kits. Yeah.

The build quality of the, um, not more. Just play PlayStation VR. It's like, it is there. But the screen's not that high quality. Like, I've still never used it. But, like, this looks good. It always looks really, I mean, I know that I'm looking at screens and screens in the 3D.

It feels like looking at the original 3DS, but it's slightly off always. Interesting. And I just, I don't think, like when you're saying, oh, it's just like having a 100 foot screen or it. It's just like it, but I'm saying. But it's like, it's kind of like a weird knockoff version. And I, I don't think they'll ever fix that. Like, I don't think we're ever going to hit a point where it's like this is clear. And this is a really good way to look at this.

You should tighten. When you get, let you get, when we get a unit in here one day, you're fucking around with it. Tighten around and screw around. Because like for real, there's been times where I'm playing and things are a little bit on Explore or whatever. And then it's like, oh, there it is. You know what I mean? It's trying to find that sweet spot. Yeah, it's hard.

That's going to be a major thing to get people used to or whatever. Yeah. I just really, I'm not one for gimmicks. I hate gimmicks. I think that they're obvious. I think motion was a gimmick. I think the dual screen thing is a brilliant idea. But, you know, even a gimmick in its own right.

3D, definitely a gimmick. I don't think this is a gimmick. Like, I really don't. I think this is really special. And it's not just PSVR, it's just VR generally. I think it's an Oculus. I think it's just special. I think it works.

And I think it's going to be amazing what they can do with this in a few years, even. Nonetheless, 10 or 20 or 30 years. And the non-gaming applications, I just think it just starts as gaming. I mean, I think that there's going to be a real, like a day when you, you Skype on PSVR. I think there's going to be a day when you can go anywhere in the world on PSVR, going to space on PSVR. Like, I think that it's just, I don't know. To your point. You know, what he's saying, like, you know, Horizon, all these games are somehow VR compatible and not the full I'm using it, using the camera, but it's just taking everything.

For me, it's the difference between playing a game out there and checking my phone and Portilla does this or that there. I see car lights outside, you know what I mean? Versus when I was playing res. And even before I started looking around, it was just like on headphones and I'm, I'm only there. And it's like, that sounds so funny. I'm like, well, I could kind of do that here with headphones and this. But there's always distractions and all these little things and stuff. And granted, we're all going to look like a bunch of weirdos to our significant others.

Like, it glued in doing this thing. But like, if I'm playing The Last of Us 2 that way, you know what I mean? And again, not controlling the camera. But I mean just being like, I'm there and this is all it is. I feel like everything about games are going to get ratched up. Even if it's just the same experience we're playing now. I'd love to play Gone Home again. I'd love to play it VR-wise.

But I would also just love to play it and not have anything else to worry about. That makes a lot of sense to me. That's where I come in with the whole, like, the screen needs to be high. quality and so if if I fuck with it it's good then I'm totally with you I feel like it's very similar to like my Apple Watch where so many people are like oh it's a waste of money why would you even need that

how does that change your life and it's like it's a fucking watch watches are expensive period like this one tells me those notifications I don't need to talk to it like Kevin does like I just like it and it gives me my notifications in a way that changes things you know yeah but really I just use it as a watch but I think that that's the same thing there

where it's just like it's it doesn't need to change the way you play every video game. It's just another way to play. Yeah, exactly. And like, if it does have that basic thing of every game can be played this way, and it is now a new immersive experience and doesn't add gimmicky bullshit. Sure, sure, sure.

That is, I think, the game change. Sure. They need to nail the screen quality. They need to not have it give you motion sickness and shit like that, and that's all going to be hard shit to do. But if they manage to nail that, that's the difference between it and the move. Yeah, like, oh, the AAA games can use move, but it's annoying and stupid and no one wants to do it.

It's a Bioshock infinite mode or whatever. Yeah, fuck off. But if this is like, you can play any game with it, and it actually isn't a lesser quality experience. It's the same or better because it's more immersive than I'm in. Cool. Final Nintendo predictions for 2016. X's going to give it to you.

That's what I predict. So going through the list. I mean, it's a list. You know, it has some stuff. But now it's upcoming games in 2016. The upcoming games for 2016 for the 3DS and for the Wii. we got Zelda Wii which is will it come in 2016 yeah absolutely okay yeah I I agree with crossover launch game with the NX we'll see I really hope that that's not the case I really

hope it is an X gives a team no I just they're gonna I'm really confident they're going to do that I don't think that they should again we don't know what NX is and I think that that might change what I'm saying with this because we really don't we have no idea yeah and it's like it might be that's fun it is very very cool um but I don't even though. They just keep saying. They're whiteboards drawing. They're like, what is the N?

Like, they don't even know. They told you. I thought you knew. It's one of those like done. They're just patting a whole bunch of different things. They told Foxcon. They're like, well, we're ready to manufacture. We just don't know.

Yeah. What we're going to do yet. So we'll figure it out in time. Yeah, Zelda, obviously I'm really excited. Yeah. I think that's going to be a great thing. Everything you look, see or hear about it sounds awesome. Yeah.

And I like that we haven't seen much. Yeah. Even though it's been talked about for so many years. And like, you have to imagine that that's, either because they have something really special or they don't know what they're doing. So it's one or the other. Star Fox Zero. It's finally going to come.

It's going to go. It's just going to be a thing. But I'm still excited for it. And I, it's finally going to come and it's going to go. If they add, if they add my controls that I want and have this fucking motion bullshit. A lot of people are saying that like,

oh, they announced when it first came out. No, they didn't. They've never said that you can play it without motion controls. Sure. Every single time I'm with them. They've never said it.

They always out of that. I ask so many times. Like, can I just play this normally? And they never say yes. So we'll see. Hopefully they do that. I do think that it's going to be a fun game. I do think it's going to scratch the itch that I wanted to.

But it's not a AAA game and it never was going to be. But, yeah. One day maybe. One day, yeah. Twilight Princess HD. It's going to happen. People are going to be excited about. I'm not going to play it again.

You're going to get that wolf amoebo, though. Thankfully, I never got into the amoebo that way. I'm always this close to going off the deep end. And if I ever do, I'm going to get every goddamn Mimbo that exists. Yeah, I know you want to spend way too much money. I don't think you're going to go off the defense. Yeah, I'm staying away from it. Yeah.

I can't do things just a little bit. Smart. It's all or nothing. Yeah, yeah. Finally, Shin Mugabe Tensei crossed Fire Emblem is going to happen. Not what I wanted from that either, but, you know, you can't win them all. And sometimes you can't win any. You can't win most of them.

I'm going to say, it seems like you don't win a lot with Nintendo. But again, it's like it's this year was the transition year. next year is even like that's it's when it's happening so it's like we're talking about these systems that are dying for all intents of purposes sure things I am excited for fire and boom fates on 3DS that's gonna be excellent all three of them all three of them they're gonna be fucking awesome I know that I know that I know that I'm gonna get quality from that so very excited looking forward to that high rule warriors legends more shit that's cool like that's not gonna be bad yeah you know um dragon quest seven and eight

huge making the way over to 3d S huge you're gonna play through them it's gonna be like a it's to be like an archaeological excavation in my room getting the fucking dust off my 3DS to play those bad boys but yeah I'm gonna do it yeah good in a little brush yeah yeah yeah and like one of those little look almost like a you can use the stylus yeah

um Metroid Prime Federation Force another thing it's just like Nintendo really is just kind of like let's just put games out now let's throw names on things and it's just we know it's not the Metroid you want yeah so the NX will give you the next you're gonna get the the Metroid you want as a launch game on an X

they're gonna give it to you then a Poken Tournament, which I am very excited about. I think that it's going to be a solid game, and I think it's going to be a lot of fun. And it's the Pokemon spin-off game that everyone always wanted that never really thought they'd get. So I'm stoked for it. Okay.

It looks really fun. All the trailers and shit look good. I'm always down for more 3D fighting games in that style. Like, you know, Smash Bros is one of my favorite games of all time. That's not so much a 3D fighting game. But at least in terms of like the multiplayer chaos type shit, Power Stone, it comes to mind. Like, we just don't get enough things like that.

And while this looks a little bit more teching than that, I like that there's the assists that come in, like Marvel versus Capcom style and like, it's very, it's very Pokemon. And as a fan of the Pokemon anime, I think this is gonna, it's gonna be good. Final Fantasy Explorers comes out on 3DS. That looks great.

I think it came looks awesome, personally. And then Mario and Luigi Paper Jam, which that game is totally just a, all right, we've made Mario Luigi games. We've made the Paper Mario game. games. We've already had a couple sequels. The 3DS has had them. What do we do? Let's just mash them together. What are we ever? Excellent title by the way. Yeah. Excellent title. But yeah, I mean that that is where Nintendo's at right. Yeah, who gives a fuck about any of that?

Because it's like honest, I'm not saying that as a dick. It's just like it's it's it's because like we don't know what's important with the exception is literally straight up with the exception is Zelda. None of that matter. Star Fox. Okay, Star Fox. He'll sell like 100,000 copies probably. So we have we have we have Star Fox that looks like it was made 15 years. years ago. Great. But no, for seriously, and I think we all know, it's the unknown that is what's most important Nintendo this year. And this really, this is the most consequential year for them since at least 2006 and probably earlier than that. This is a huge year for Nintendo. And if they, we will know by this time next year, really, in all reality, if like their trajectory is hardware for the long run or if their trajectory is ultimately going to go third party. Because we'll know. just like it was clear as the day as long when the Wii came out, it was going to bomb. I think we'll have and that was obvious. I hated when people held on to that for a long time. It's so obvious, this thing is never going to sell. You know, and like

the minute it came out and it didn't set the world on fire. I was like, well, that's not how consoles come out anymore. So, they're in a perilous situation if the NX really comes out this year because this is Dreamcast territory. This is not a great time to release a console.

And I don't know that it's the smartest thing for them to do, but I don't know what else they can do. Because they can't just string this shit along for another year after this. I mean, that's the thing is like, yeah, they can't string it along and also what? They're going to wait till 2017. That's still Dreamcast territory. You know, they would have to wait a good five years to be in that competitive space again.

And like, that's just way too long. Yeah, them being in the space between is not going to bode well for them, I don't think. But I mean, I'm more, here's my prediction on it. We don't know what the fuck NX is. We have no idea. Like what it is. The controller, all the, stuff with the controller patents seem fucking weird.

They seem very weird. Gibbicky though. I mean, I see that and like, you know, I'm the NX's number one fanboy. But I look at that and I'm like, oh, fuck. Yeah, like what I really want to see from them, when I really want to see the patents and they could be doing, I mean, it happens. I don't think Nintendo's one of these companies, but companies do put out like, you know, duds and like red herrings all over the place to, like trick people.

I mean, big tech companies do do that kind of stuff. I don't think that's what they're doing, but what it would be cool to see is if they, like, is them releasing a fucking dual analog control? you know and that just crops up it as a patent and they're just making a real controller and then you and you find the patent for you know a real console and the innards are actually able to play games that you want to play um that's my hope but i don't think that's what we're going to get and that that's a game on the go that's what you're getting if they do something that really can play a game on a ps4 quality game or an xbox one quality game on a handheld and on a console i think they're

going to be in good shape if they if they release something that's weaker than that or is is like just a step up, one step up from Wii. I think they're going to be in a lot of trouble because they need to engender third party support. And people keep saying, well, you buy Nintendo console to play Nintendo games. And I'm like, that's clearly not true. Can we stop saying that now?

But the Wii you has, and those people bought all those games. It doesn't matter. The Wii you sold 10 million units, 10 million units. That too is Dreamcast territory. And Dreamcast had plenty of third party support. I don't think they can get away with doing this over and over again. Their fan base is shrinking.

It is shrinking. It is getting stolen. by the other console manufacturers. And if people don't understand and believe that, then that's fine, but you're wrong. Like, these kids are moving on. And for them to get their fans back, they need a robust, powerful console

with a shit ton of support. And I will tell you that you are going to... I really feel you are going to get that Metroid game as a launch title. I think you're going to get a Mario game as a launch title. And I think that they are holding shit back. I think it's pretty clear Zelda's going to be on it too.

So if it comes out indeed in October and November, but this is a make or break time man for them. There's a lot of talk out there that, and we've talked about it and other people talking about it that like, why do they stick, why are they so obsessed with hardware? You know, like, why?

They could dominate software. Dominate it. Get rid of all of the R&D costs on their hardware, not even worry about that shit anymore and make games for PS4 and Xbox One and they will fucking murder. A Mario game, a 3D Mario game, released on both consoles, would sell 15 million units. Oh, yeah.

And PC. Like they could, dominate and make hand over fist money and I'm sure that there are people in their boardroom that want that. And it's probably a similar group of people that wanted them to go into the mobile territory which is another thing we're going to learn a lot more about.

And like how they treat their mobile games and how they work with DNA. I think this is going to be a multi-pronged attack about Nintendo this year. I think it's going to be very aggressive attack and I think you're going to see all their cards on the table and everything they have to make this thing sell because they know fundamentally the company will change

in a way that it has not changed since the 70s. because they cannot afford another hardware, they can't. I don't care how much money they have in the bank. They're not Apple. They're not Google. They're not Facebook. They do not have this amazing amount of money.

They have $15 billion in the bank and that can disappear like that when you have to employ tens of thousands of people and have all this R&D shit going on and you're not making a profit. They can't have another Wii. And if the NX turns into another Wii, they're in a lot of trouble. They're done. I mean,

they have to get out at that point. Yeah. And I mean, you know, I have for a million times said that I love my Wii. I love all the games that I play on. There's been such great experiences, but the problem was there's not enough. And there's not enough people buying them and playing.

And we all know that. But for me, I think that the NX, like we keep hearing. There's going to be some hybrid system. And that's what everybody thinks. And I think that's a PX stands for crossover. It's a safe, safe assumption, I think that that will be it. And I think that means that there's no DS then. There's no Wii.

It's this. Yep. And if it's one system that's supposed to do both of those, you take all the 3DS games. Like the 3DS has its fast library. And the Wii has its library that it has, whatever. And at times it's really dry. But overall, it's like you are getting these things. And if you combined those, I think that that does lead to a much stronger lineup, at least even just Nintendo games.

That means that consistently every month you're getting a game instead of every three months, you know? And I think that that's a great start. And it'll give people all the different experiences they want. I mean, Nintendo even now is pretty good about having the different, they have their franchises. But like you get your Zeno Blade if you're an RPG guy. And like, they do try to make sure. that they fill the niches. But I don't think that we're ever going to get the Nintendo that cooperates with third parties.

You know, like that's just not going to happen. And it sucks that even if they released a PS4 level system, they're not going to like win over the Call of Duty people. They don't need to win over the Call of Duty people. They need to win over. They need to just give. It's a game, right? You have to have a reason to buy console beyond just Nintendo games. the most successful Nintendo consoles

succeeded with other people's games too. You know what I mean? So it's like the NES, the S&S and the Wii, their big three success stories were all, you know, driven in a major way by other people's games. Whether it was Capcom or Konami.

Dude, some of the Wii's, yeah, the Wii had, you know, it's Wii sports and Mario and all that kind of stuff. But I had, there were games like just dance and shit like that

is still the best selling game on Wii this year. You know what I mean? In 2015, Like Nintendo hasn't kept that console relevant in years It's other people's hardware software when I used to Raving Rabbids boom blocks Yeah like these I disagree with you completely I think that like if you look at Weas catalog

I used to like be in charge of IGN's like Software catalog library whatever And there was there was a massive shit ton Metric shit ton of games that people bought on that console And like Carnival games and like all these weird Just weird like gimmicky bullshit Because that's what the system was and yeah But it doesn't matter that was gimmicky

Like those games sold and those games made people, you know, and then when you look at N64 and GameCube and Wii, what do they all lack, you know? GameCube, they really try with GameCube. They did. But it didn't work because they knew that PS2 was going to eat their lunch and they did. You know, like, PS2 stole all those games, Resident Evil and Beautiful Joe and all this kind of stuff, but they tried there. But N64 was a Nintendo machine and Wii was a Nintendo machine. And what is the fucking denominator between them. They look at their fucking lunches ate eaten by other people. You know, like other hardware manufacturers just came in and swooped in and took their

fucking audience. And that's what happened with Wii. Their audience, the Nintendo's, the It's just real talk. Nintendo's audience is shrinking. And the other, Sony's especially, but also Microsoft's, they're expanding. Sony's clear as the day as long,

Sony's audience is getting bigger. And that's coming at the sake of something. There are only so many gamers. You know, so even though there's a huge group of gamers, there are only so many of them and you can cut them however you want. They need to tell people,

you buy NX and you're going to get Ubisoft's games. You buy NX and you are going to get Activision's games. You might not, maybe only 10% of the audience plays Call Duty there, but you need to know that you can. And if they don't have a buy-in on that, then no one's going to buy the console, except for Nintendo fans, which is exactly what happened with the Wii. So, you know, there's reason for trepidation.

Their story this year is going to be fascinating to watch. It's going to be about price point. It's going to be about power. It's going to be about that launch library. And it's going to be about third-party partnerships. And these third parties have been burned over and over again. Yeah, I mean, the third-party shit, man. It worries me, because I don't see them fixing that ever.

But I'm also really excited about the mobile stuff. And I think that instead of seeing the 3DS and the Wii, we're going to see the NX, the functions. as that and then the smartphone stuff's going to be it's a bit it's going to obviously be a big thing for them and the direction they go with that I think is equally interesting to the the NX because those things need to cooperate in a way that like no other systems have before they will it's time for and then they have it you know with Mr. Awad is unfortunate passing the torch has been passed to a new group of people right and it's time for new leadership to take them in a new direction and that's happening and it was something in a lot of

obviously set in motion a lot of certainly greenlit the NX and greenlit DNA and the DNA deal. So these are, you know, but it's time for like, I keep saying it, new ideas, new IP, new studios. I think people like Miyamoto have done an amazing job of making amazing games, but it's time for him to, and he already is like, it seems like withdrawing, but it's time for like them to get a bunch of new kids that grew up on Nintendo games, 20 year olds, 25 year olds, 30 year olds, and let them loose, you know, and let them design new games. Not everything has to be Mario, not everything. They're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're. They're always going to control these very valuable IP. These IP are worth billions of dollars. You know, the Mario IP is incalculable how much that's actually worth, including the back catalog. But it's time for them to say, like, let's do something bold and different and see what happens because what we're doing now is not working.

I mean, that's the only thing we know right now is that 3DS sales are soft compared to its predecessor. And we use sales are one-tenth of weeds. So I worry for them. They're not going to disappear. but they have to make a decision. And I think this is the next 18 months or so is when they're going to make it.

So with the NX, do we all think it'll be a revealed E3? Yeah. And you think it'll be at a press conference, not a direct. I do think they have to be at E3. This is their return to a press conference because then you'll know shit's on.

You know what I mean? It'll be such a big deal. It'll be like when Bethesda did it. You know what I mean? Yeah. The level of their engagement in E3 will show the level that they believe in this thing. I'll say that if they do like some sort of canned

bullshit Nintendo Direct, I don't give a, fuck you know yeah they better they better be there with that machine I'm telling you and I they know that they're gonna be there I mean I I don't I don't think that that's a question yeah I do see I do I do just because of Nintendo wanting it to be like building this direct thing and being such big proponents about it and like just constantly doing it like I would be shocked if they went back and did a conference I agree with you that I think that they they should and I think that that there's a possibility that they will but I don't think

it's a foregone conclusion I definitely think that like them coming out with the direct and like having everything be tight and exactly how they want to present the message. Like they... Bad idea. I'm telling you it's a bad idea if they do that. I just... I disagree with you in a sense.

I think it's got to be almost certainly that they have to. And they have to parade these motherfuckers on stage. They have got to say like, an Activision and blah. Like they need to like engender the support. They can't... They can't want to win in this industry

and be pretend that they're not part of it, which is basically what they're doing. So I appreciate the Nintendo Direct. I think it's a great idea. I think it's a great way to, you know, message to your... audience and you get back to him right after E3. Yeah, but you have got to play

ball. This is the way the industry works and they can pretend that they're outside of it if they want, but there will be outside of it. If they continue to like to, you know, play those games or whatever, be there, have a strong two-hour reveal. Don't

say Wii U one fucking time. Don't say 3DS one fucking time. Don't show a game we've ever heard of before. Show the hardware, the name, the date, the price, the launch lineup. Come out and punch someone in the fucking face. No one will talk about anything else that happened at that conference at that show if Nintendo does this right. Yeah. Yeah. You know, it will be irrelevant what happened in Sony. It'll be irrelevant what happened to Microsoft.

You bet you damn well know they both know that. Mm-hmm. So, which is where they're going to have to hold their cards. Coastage has to be like, well, why do we even, like, it doesn't matter for our conferences. You know, Sony can have a thing where it's like, well, let's just wait until games got. We don't even need to say too much here because no one's going to write about it anyway. Look at what Nintendo just did. Yeah. I mean, I remember going into the Wii and thinking that's what it was going to be. I remember it was, we're going into that E3 and we all knew that they were going to announce

it there and like the revolution and all this stuff and I'm like holy shit are they going to call this just the Nintendo entertainment system and are they going to fucking kick ass and then they came out with the Wii you and instantly everyone knew the confusion of just what is this is this an add-on is this what the hell when's it coming what like why

why why here's fucking a Batman game you've already played like all this stuff's like god damn it and like I will be shocked if Nintendo doesn't do that again I will be shocked if they did what you just said because we're used to them fucking out I want that so bad. I want it so bad. I cannot wait for E3 because it's going to be there. And I just, I hope that

they come out and do that. If we get a launch lineup that has Metroid, Mario, and Zelda, that's like, unfuck with the ball. There needs to be some way to play smash. I don't care what it is, whether it's fucking downloading it or whatever, they need to figure that shit out. And a Pokemon, if they come out with a fucking Pokemon game, it's not going to be a launch thing. But announce

it. Say, we're making a Pokemon console game. Like, they can do this, man. I think that they can win back some people, but I don't think they can do the third party thing. I think they can. They just have to they have to on the ground level

make these people believe in this machine and there's no reason not to believe in it. The third parties don't give a flying fuck what the gimmick is if the gimmick's gonna sell.

They certainly didn't care on Wii when they were selling their games on it even though the waggle was weird and everyone hated it. Certainly Ubisoft didn't care because they were selling hand over fist just cause

or not just cause just dance like on it. So they just have to go and say like This is what the machine is. And they've done this, I think, already, because the machine apparently is proliferated. It's out.

Like, people have it. So, but yeah, Metroid, retro's been awfully quiet, haven't they? Yeah. And no 3D Mario game and, like, a proper 3D Mario game in a very long time, like, by the time the NX comes out, like, six years. So all signs, you know, Zelda seems to have been delayed specifically for NX. Mm-hmm. So. All signs point to X giving it to you.

Yeah. I'm excited. I mean, I'm excited, but I'm nervous for them, too, because they don't have another fuck-up moment. Like, they can't. They cannot fuck it up. Yeah. I mean, in terms of third party, though, I do think that we'll see Fall Fantasy 7 remake on that X.

And I think that's a very key, important move for them to make. And if it's not there, that's a bad sign. The cloud then could be telegraphing that. I really hope. I really hope. Because if they come out and if they announced that at E3, that's huge. It is huge. I mean, it's not, it's still coming to PS4 first.

Yeah, but exactly. But to me, I'm talking about just in terms of the third party support. Like, I think that is a statement that would... To get back with swear in a way like that would sway me in a way that I'm like, Maybe I'm wrong about this third party stuff, but I don't know. We'll see. Anyways, I'm sure we're going to be talking about the NX a lot. Just a little bit in 2016.

Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, that has been the kind of funny games cast. First and last ever, episode 51. Thank you, Colin. Thank you, Greg. Thank you, Kevin. You're not falling asleep. I appreciate that.

Good job, Kevin. Stay awake. Next week. We're finally doing it. Game of the year, 2015. Get excited. Get hyped. I love you.

You're good on that show. Good job out there. That was a good show. I really liked it. I liked a lot. What's wrong with you? This is episode 51. How does that make sense?

You just said episode 50. Yeah, but how many years, how many weeks are in a year? 52. So, that just doesn't make sense. Because this is the episode that goes live the first week of January. It was 51. We technically. Right, right.

But filmed it. It went live then. We're gonna film one that week. Yeah, I guess that makes sense. You're not, don't film them. It's like when you're, you turn one year old, you've been alive 12 months. You're right.

This makes sense. This does make sense. Put all this in the end, Kevin. That's why there's no year zero. Zero. No, not really.