Kinda Funny Gamescast: Video Game Podcast - 2018 Xbox and Third Party Predictions - Kinda Funny Gamescast Ep. 153
Episode Date: January 15, 2018Tim and Greg make their predictions for 2018. (Released first to http://www.Patreon.com/KindaFunnyGames Supporters on 01.12.17) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices...
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So Greg,
what happened was going into the new year,
we recorded a bunch of episodes.
One of them was our predictions for 2018.
Which we thought was going to be one episode.
We'll talk about everything.
We're talking about every game with the release date.
We know the questions we have,
all this stuff.
We ended up only getting through PlayStation
because PlayStation had a lot to talk about.
In addition to the games we've been playing and all that stuff.
A lot of people were like,
oh, you didn't mention Monster Hunter Worlds.
And I found out the reason I didn't do that
is because that's in my third-party multi-platform section.
Oh, there it is.
Right there at the top.
So that's why that happened.
You weren't trying to ruin this game.
Exactly.
You just were trying to ruin this game by accident.
So what this episode is going to be, we're going to start off talking about just the games we've been playing recently.
Which is what we do here on the kind of funny games test, each and every third.
Then we're going to get into our predictions for Microsoft and Nintendo and then the third party multi-platform games.
Don't even hang the third party stuff on us.
If we get there, we get there.
If we get there, we get there.
Because again, then that's another episode.
We did that in that time capsule way back in 2017.
it went live as landmines do.
And then we did game of the year
and we came back because we were like that.
And I had this paper still on my desk.
And I think we have to get back to this.
Yeah.
And then we kind of,
you,
I totally forgot.
You say you forgot,
but we wouldn't have done it last week.
We needed to get game of the year done.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And plus you wanted me to wait for me to break out these pants.
Oh my God.
Oh,
again the fan.
Right?
I'm telling you,
people think I got no extension.
Now granted,
the knees bent as I come up.
Has anyone ever claimed you don't have extension?
That I don't?
Yeah.
Well, it's because a lot of people know believe me.
Because one of the big things I talk about a lot is, by the way, sorry, for the audio listeners at home,
this is pretty much just a visual bit, is that I feel like with enough time, I feel like with enough time,
every time I could do the Undertaker boot and, like, get you right in the face.
Because you're a tall guy, but you stand up.
I can, I won't, I won't under, but if you were coming at me off the ropes, I feel like, see,
I can get it up there.
I can get it up there, right?
Just like Taker could.
Undertaker, number one.
So what you've been playing, Greg?
you know what
lay it on me dude
a lot because we haven't
last week we didn't talk about the things
I played over break
and I played a lot of stuff over break
I won't bore you
with the details
I feel like on one of the kind of funny games daily
I had to have talked about this
at some point
but I did bust out my PSN profiles
dot com slash game over Gregi
yes I'm a paid member
you can come here
check my trophies as they get updated
I platinumed a lot of stuff
I wanted a bit of a platinum run
while we were gone
so shout out to Valhalla
Valhalla
however you want to pronounce it
but that game
the bar tent,
cyberpunk bartending
simulator thing or whatever.
Not familiar.
I talked about it years ago
when I ran into it at a packs
because it is you
sitting there and mixing drinks
for people and giving it to them
which is a fun
gameplay mechanic period.
This is like a visual novel though.
Not even a visual novel.
It's overcooked
the visual novel?
No,
because it's,
I wish making the drink
was more of the game.
It's a great game.
It tells an interesting story.
You're a bartender.
People come to your bar.
You meet them.
You talk to them.
Like,
you know,
characters.
This game didn't have a platinum.
Would you have played it?
Oh, yeah.
No, no, no.
This didn't have anything to do with the platinum.
This is the way platinum should go for a normal person or if I was a normal person where I played the game.
I had seen a PACS.
I said, that looks awesome.
Got the game, played the game.
I was like, I really enjoy this game.
Looked at the trophy list.
I was like, oh, you know what?
And then sure enough, I spent Christmas break in a cabin in Vermont getting this platinum.
Good story.
Could have gone for more of a focus on the bartending, but that really wasn't what it's about.
It is about like being a bartender and talking people.
The game did, I would assume what it wanted me to do
where I thought about, man, life is a bartender
would be pretty cool.
I could be a good bartender.
You know what I mean?
If I remember how to make drinks and stuff.
Yeah.
But just talking to people, that sounds like fun.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
That sounds like a good time to get it.
But once I got that, then it was like,
hmm, man, I just knocked out of platinum.
I got my Vita with me.
I only brought the Vita.
Well, I had the switch.
But I only played the Vita on Christmas break
because I was traveling so much.
I also played Xenon Valchory Plus,
which has just come out.
Wasn't for me, but it's a cute little game.
It's not cute.
It's a pretty game of you platforming.
I think it's got rogue-like elements to it,
but I really didn't get enough time to get into it.
Played papers, please for a while.
Finally made us way over to Vita.
That's exciting.
Played through it.
It's as good as it was on PC,
which I know a lot of people loved.
It never super clicked for me,
but I was happy to finally have it on Vita.
I played shoe again on Vita.
You remember this thing?
It had come to PlayStation 4,
then finally come on on PlayStation Vita,
but the windows didn't line up for me,
and this is the time where I was like,
I'm only playing Vita stuff.
I'm getting trophies.
Still a great little thing,
but the problem I have the shoe
is what I feel like I have a lot
with the collectathons now
of like, well, yeah, this is fun
but I should be playing Mario.
Mario's right there.
I should be going to get moons.
I'm not going to bother that.
But anyways,
I had the taste of the platinum.
You know how it is.
Once you get a little bit on you,
you just take it out.
Strippers.
Yeah.
So I had it for Valhalla.
And I was like,
I know I'm going to come home
to the final episode
of Life is Strange before the storm.
I'm going to get a platinum there.
I'm like, how many can I ding up right now?
Of course, as you remember,
the one of the worst platinum games out there on PlayStation 4, Energy
Cycle, which, which...
One of the worst... Undeniably, Ninja Turtles.
Thank you very much.
I see where you going with that one.
I see where you go with that.
Energy cycle had come to PlayStation for a while and when I had fallen off the wagon
a long time ago and did like four terrible platyms in a row, Mr.
Masagie and that thing.
It's now on Vita has a separate trophy list.
You goddamn right I bought that one.
I gave me another 1499 or whatever the fuck it was.
Got it. Sat there, platinum that.
Then, uh, now this is another thing of my interests aligning.
in a good way, where Burley Men at C.
Do you remember when this got announced at a PSX or whatever?
It had popped up.
It's a mobile game.
It had won, like, Time Magazine's Game of the Year for whatever year it was.
And it's this...
Game of the Year or Mobile Game of the Year?
I guess Mobile Game of the Year.
We'll say mobile game with year.
You know what I mean?
Kevin, give me a check on what Time Magazine gave an award to for...
What?
It's one...
Are you trying to do every game I say?
Yeah, it's...
Don't listen to Tim.
He never checks the time.
Went through and played this.
It's another narrative-driven.
You know, you make choices in the game,
and then it branches off and does all these things.
It was fun.
It was cute.
And then at the end, I was like,
what's the planet and look like on this thing?
And I was like,
oh, this is fucking platinum burly men at sea.
And then I went home and I did,
Life is Strange before the storm.
Now,
I feel,
someone asked me the other day on Twitter
if I had done a spoiler cast for this.
And I said no.
What I had said,
uh,
recently when we were doing something in Games Daily Ice and was it
you or Andrea,
where I was talking about,
uh,
oh no,
it was last week on games test.
Game of the Year?
Yeah, yeah.
And I was like,
you know,
they make some weird change.
in the episode three, which I didn't really like.
And so I don't know if we should do spoiler section of it and I should tap my head.
I don't know if people are waiting out there for Life is Strange episode three.
What do you want me to do?
How do you want me to handle my complaints with it?
I mean, you know the game better than I do.
So don't ruin it for people.
Whatever you think is the best.
Okay.
Then I'll just leave it at where I was with Gamescasts.
And you can always, I'll make a Twitter video for somebody.
If you want me say, hey, what do you like about Life is Strange before this from?
I'll make you a Twitter video.
But yeah, it makes a bunch of weird choices at the end that like go from, oh, this has been a
normal teen story.
What the fuck is happening?
Oh, God, it's crazy.
The Encharted effect.
Yeah, exactly, the inchard effect.
But overall, still love that game.
Plattened it to that.
Big Kev Dog and I played a whole bunch of GTA online.
I'll tell you what, that is a complicated game.
It's a bit over, overwhelming.
You jump in there and it's overwhelming.
And I was trying to explain it today with Andrea again, where I was talking to her about
it.
And she was like, well, no, no, no, it's just GT.
I'm like, no, no, the mechanics I get, yes.
It's the menu systems.
It's trying to.
figure out how to fucking get this. Stock. How do, how do I get the, how you have this?
It's just like, uh, is it, the problem I have with GTA, Gt Online's a lot of fun.
Kevin and I are never going to play enough of it to get the fucking Dolorean and to do all
this different stuff. Because we would have to play it every night nonstop. And it's so hard for us
to play games together. Still, I got Jeff Ramsey on my fucking guest room and I can't come home
and play GTA. No, he doesn't know anything about GTA. After the advice of a young
Timothy Gettys. It's me. I popped in Injustice 2 and said, it's finally.
time.
Yeah.
And I jumped into it.
And man,
do I fucking hate fighting games.
Really?
I couldn't even do it this year.
I can't even do it.
Really?
Yeah.
Oh my God.
Oh, that hurts me.
I know.
And justice too.
The only game,
new game that I beat during the break.
Yeah.
I think that's right.
Man, I had such a great time with it to put it on my top 10 list of the year.
I love fighting games.
I'm not good at fighting games,
but I enjoy playing them.
There's something about fighting games,
that I'm just like,
specifically like arcade racing games.
I can't really get into the simulation stuff because that's way too much for
But I'm like, if they're simple enough that like, I can wrap my head around it, I'm not doing all the crazy fancy stuff.
Yeah.
But it's just fun to go through.
And I think injustice did a good job of having it be simple enough.
Well, I feel like Mortal Kombat intimidates me.
I don't know why.
But it always has.
And injustice too, I feel like they did a good job of like giving me what I needed to know and all the tools I needed to have fun.
It was very much.
See, I just wasn't having fun.
I was beating them.
I was winning the matches to move on.
There's only one I think I need to restart or whatever.
But it just got to that point of,
all right, like, first off,
I'm playing this and I'm thinking,
man, I should really just go read the injustice comic.
Not that this is bad.
Just thought I love Tom Taylor and I do love the injustice comic and stuff.
And then the other thought was,
I'm having no fun fighting.
I should just go watch the YouTube video of all the cutscenes compiled.
And that's fair.
Yeah.
But I,
I liked,
the biggest compliment I can give that game is I feel they did such a good job of
not making me angry when I had to,
switch characters. Sure. In the fighting game. And like, that's so cool to me because like normally I'd
be like, I just want to play as this guy. Right. But I like that I got tasted from people that I would
have never played as blue beetle or, you know, whatever the four. Black Canary. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. And that was
the thing of like, you know, I choose a black canary over a green era at one part. And then it was
like, it came up again. I'm like, I'm stuck on black canary. I like this. You know what I mean? Like,
I like the vibe and how this feels. I, I, like, all that's true. It's just, I'm not a
fighting game guy. And for injustice one, I must have been in just the right mood to be like,
I'll go, I'll not struggle, but I'll do this game play mechanic. I don't enjoy. And this was
just the opposite where I was just like, I am not in the mood. And it was that, you know,
we're back from break. I'm finally back to my console and there's all these things I should be
playing or want to play. I can't, you know, do that. Because the other thing I mean, like,
Kevin and I've been playing a lot of is PubG. And PubG of course is the antithesis to my problem
with GTL line, right? Of like, since there is. Exactly. Here's this match in like,
the feeling of like, you know, Kevin and I finally making it to the top two in our
duos, because I've won chicken dinners on my own, but when it was Kevin and I finally
get into that part, it was like, this is fucking awesome. Not granted, Kevin was already dead.
But just putting that out there for a full disclosure that I was the only one alive.
Also, my wife came in and was like, what do you want to eat?
Yeah, sushi. You guys chew soap, so, chose sushi.
You know, like, pick it right now. And it's like, sweetheart. It's the most intense part
of the game. Just give me a second. And then I got really excited.
And then what, your gun wasn't set to auto? Or is that a different match? I forget.
that was that match. That's why I died because my gun wasn't set to auto.
What a fucking fantastic game that PubG is.
Fun, fun experience.
Watching it from the outside, I've understood why, of course, people are into it,
playing a little bit on PC. I understood why people were into it.
But when you start playing, oh, geez, just so much fun.
And that's the thing where it is. It's right there with Friday 13th.
They're like, all right, cool. Friday's like, I have 20 minutes or whatever.
And PubG's like, I have a little bit more, a little bit less. Doesn't even matter.
I'm just like, I don't want to have to worry about like, fuck, I'm not, how to,
how much do I have to grind to unlock that?
how many people do I have to go through
to get to the next cutscene I want.
It's like the gameplay is landing and fucking killing
and sometimes it's super quick, sometimes it's not.
What I want to do is get serious
about getting better at shooting and fighting
and start not playing to make it to the top 10
like I do now and instead just land fucking run
at people and try to, because that's what I need to do.
I need to bring those skills.
You said that, then we landed at the school
and then you're like, no, let's leave.
Well, yeah, but I mean like, it's different with you.
I want to impress you.
I want us to win that.
When it's just me out there,
lone wolf.
That's when you got second place.
You did impress me.
See?
That's what I'm saying.
A lot of people are like, you know,
oh, there's only the chicken dinner or nothing.
I'm like, no, no.
Second, third, fourth,
I'm impressed with all that.
That's impressive.
I got fourth ones.
You know what I mean?
That's what it's all about.
And then I'm prepping for a little show
we're filming tomorrow called the PlayStation VR show.
Thank you very much, Kevin.
And of course, debuting in February,
taking deep dive looks at some of these PlayStation VR games
dedicating an episode to the ones that I think are something special
or something unique or something needs to be seen.
I've been trying to kick the tires on them
and man, my schedule has not been kind of that,
but sat down here in the office
and played accounting plus.
And I think you can attest to the fact that I was laughing like an idiot.
It was unbelievable.
I've never seen someone enter a VR world
and act like there is no other world around him
laughing hysterically and so like,
like you were doing the type of laughing that I'm like,
he's trying to show us how funny this game is.
There's no way this is genuine.
But then it went on for an hour
And I'm like
No, he's just lost
He's just in this fucking universe
That is just Greg Miller
And fucked up things happening
That are making him laugh
You were doing the type of laugh
That you laugh when you say something crazy
And you go off a wheel laugh
The whee's laugh
And I'm like, oh no
This game
It's that thing
I'm scared of it
I'm more scared of that
The paranormal activity VR
Justin Royland
Like his sense of humor
Is very much my sense of humor
And so I loved how
Secalis back in the day
and why from, you know, I put off watching Rick and Morty forever. And when I finally did sit down,
I was like cry laughing at it. Uh, it's the same thing with accounting plus, except you're in
this interactive space. So the way people talk to you, the way things interact, it's just,
it's so fucking good. And this is like literally the shining example of what I'm talking about
this place you should be our show is like there are so many cool experiences on this device that
you just don't know about because you don't want to bust it out or you don't have it or you don't
care. You know what I mean? Like I'm, I'm excited to show people stuff like that. What I thought was really
cool is you were laughing and having a good time from the first moment. Yeah. I feel like a lot of
VR things kind of take a while to gear up and stuff. I kept looking over and I saw the screen
of like what you were playing. Yeah. And it constantly looked different. It looked at you in a bunch
of different areas. But it looked like you had a grasp of the game and it looked like you weren't
struggling. And I'm like, man, that's for them to make a game that's funny, but also it looks like
you can just understand it and go and make progress. Well, like the gameplay of it is super simple.
And you are like the to talk about it at length, I guess, like, you're,
going through and picking up different like you start in an accountant or whatever in like what
you're going to do accounting in virtual reality so you pick up and put on the virtual goggles you're
wearing the real life ones but in the game you put on another set and that takes you to the first
world and then when you fucked around with what's interactable there you put on another pair of goggles
and go to another world you keep drilling down into virtual reality and everywhere it's different
and fucked up of course because it's the rick and morty guy yeah and so yeah it's comedy and a game
is so hard. And I think what fucks it up usually is the fact that if you're trying to tell a joke
in an action game like uncharted, right? Like you're never sure where the player's going to be.
Are they looking at the right thing? Are they not? Are they doing this one? Whereas this one,
since it's more limited, you know, I mean, like, you're using the warp around. You know,
like, most places have three places you can warp two to interact with things. And like, since there's
only so many things you can interact with, like there's this one, I'm going to spoil it. Sorry.
I know, Kevin, I want you to play it and be surprised and everything else.
But, like, there's this one where you walk into, like, a dark alley, and there's this gang there.
And they're, like, all fucking tough.
And they're, like, asking you how tough you are.
And you start doing, like, mundane things around there.
And they're like, oh, man, he is pretty tough.
Oh, blah, blah, blah.
And you pick up a brick.
And as soon as you pick up the brick, they all, they all drop it.
Like, whoa, man, don't go crazy.
Don't be, don't be, don't be, you know what I mean?
Like, you have this fucking brick of, like, what are you going to do with it?
And then you go a bunch of levels further.
But then you come back to that.
And, like, it's just, it's so fucking, it's such an acid trip of
insanity, but it's so funny. It's so fucking funny if you find that funny. And so yeah, I've been
tinkering with other stuff, but you know, we played more Nidhog here. Another game, spoilers for the
VR show. The PlayStation VR show is going to be the diner duo, which I'm super stoked about.
It's the one I was talking about of one person in VR makes hamburgers and the other person
with the dual shock delivers hamburgers. And like, so one person's in VR one's not. Me and
Nick are going to do that for the PlayStation VR show. I'm super stoked about that. That sounds fun.
Yeah, but I think that's those are the super top level highlights.
Played more hot shots.
I obviously had more fun with that.
Hot shots?
Oh, sorry, everybody's golf.
It'll always be hot shots golf.
Gotcha.
I apologize.
I apologize.
Stayed away for the switch from the most part, which is, feels weird.
I mean, it's, unless you're in a Zeno blade, it's kind of a quiet time.
Yeah, but I still have more moons to get and all that jazz.
Like, you know, I feel like there's those games.
I feel like you're at that point though where it's like, you know you have travel coming up.
Right.
There's no reason to waste this right now.
Another, an interesting thing.
And I don't, and I don't.
and I'm,
this is not me saying I don't like the game
that doesn't deserve the players against the game of the year
and stuff.
I could not bring myself on break to do the Zelda DLC.
You're fine.
I don't know what about,
I know,
you said,
and I guess maybe that's it,
but maybe it's the fact,
but it was just,
I was still like,
I thought about it.
I was like,
I just,
I felt like I left that game in such a good place and I beat it and it
and it was done.
Yeah.
With Mario,
I'm like,
I fucking need to get back to Mario.
The,
the Zelda DLC has a lot of great stuff.
The shrines are some of the best in the whole game.
And the,
the dungeons,
equally as good as the divine beast,
but there's a lot of filler in it.
And I just,
it is weird getting back into it.
I can,
knowing you,
I can see you not.
It's something I don't feel like
you can pass on.
Yeah.
Okay.
Um,
my final thing is I did,
uh,
a night of drunken Mario cart with Danny Mack
when he stayed with us in Jen.
And fuck is that game great.
Yeah.
I love that Mario card.
I love that Mario cart.
And I'm so good.
And I don't know how you beat me that one time.
I beat you.
But I got to come back to your ass.
The one time I faced off against you are one.
just saying.
Tim, what did you play over break?
Or since the last time we did this kind of time.
I played a fair amount of very Tim style games,
which means older games.
Popped into a lot of things that I've played before,
including Amplitude,
one of my favorite games of all time.
I heard about this.
And Andrew Renee.
Did she bring this up on the show?
What did she have to say?
She said that there's a few songs on the leaderboards
that she's got a better score than you.
Yeah.
And that you're going to come for her.
Yeah.
Okay.
So what happened was,
when you boot up
amplitude. There's like 30, 30 songs in the game, give or take. When you are friends with people,
there's an overall leaderboarder to tell you your percentage in the world of what
amplitude level you are or whatever. And at one point, I wasn't in the top 1%.
Damn son. Yeah. But as the time when on, more people have played and whatever, I am now,
I think I'm in 4%. So still, really good. I'm happy about that. And I wasn't friends with
Andrew Renee on PSN.
I became friends recently.
So when I popped it on this, I'm because I was like, you know what?
It's been a while.
I'm just, I have 10 minutes.
I'm going to play a song or two.
I get in and I see the leaderboards.
And overall, I was ahead of her.
She's, she's very good.
Top 7% I think.
So I'm like, all right.
Like, she's up there, which impressed me.
Because me and Andrew Renee, I've talked a lot of shit about Applechoo over the years,
but I've always wrote her off where I was like, whatever.
You think you're good, but you have no idea.
I totally did the, like, high school college smash bros thing where it's
like, you think you're good.
You should see me in my friends.
Like that type of shit.
Totally with amplitude.
I'm just like, like, no, no, no.
Like, cool.
That's cute.
Like, this is my shit.
But seeing her score, I was like, fuck.
Oh shit.
She actually is really good.
Yeah.
Then when you go into the song list, you can go song by song and it'll show you.
Yeah.
So it's just, on the leaderboard.
When you go in, it's just me and her.
That's awesome.
And so I see it.
And I'm just like, oh, God.
So did you try at the time?
I started going through.
And just to start it off, I just wanted.
to see where I was.
Yeah.
There was, I want to say, out of 30, probably, uh, eight songs that she had a better score
than me.
Okay.
But as I looked at them, I'm like, oh, I got her.
I just need to try.
Yeah.
I just need to go in.
I was coasting when I played the first time.
I just went through and I was just like, because I never really tried to high score.
Sure.
So now I'm like, now I have a challenge.
And then this brought a whole new life to amplitude.
Well, now I'm just facing off against Andrew Renee.
There's nothing more satisfying.
Gotcha.
So I'm going through knocking him out, knocking them out.
It's great.
But I got it.
down to like the final five songs and man they've been tough and now it's it too there's two
there's two left that uh she's got she's holding you still has on me and i'm just like i got 28
she has two and those two bother me and there's one of them that i just don't know how she has such a
better score than me how much more like what's the point differential ballpark she has three thousand
points i have two thousand five hundred and i hundred percented the song okay i didn't miss a note
Craig. Not one fucking note.
Is there Star Power or something? It's using it at different times.
And I'm like, man, and I have tried. I played that song probably 15 times trying to go different
pads. And I'm just not able to do it. But I'm not going to give up. But now she knows and I like
that because that puts it in her head. Let's see. Now that she can try, maybe the whole tide's
going to shift. Sure. Maybe I'm going to be an asshole. Either way, I'm having a great time.
And if you have not played amplitude on PS4, it's fantastic. You should totally get it.
You should probably be a man, put the kind of funny world championship on the line against her.
Best of Five songs.
In a second, in a second I would do that.
You pick two.
She picks two songs.
Oh no, not two.
Don't give me two.
Two for you, two for her.
And then we have like a crowd pick a third.
Or I'm sorry, you know what I mean?
Fifth.
But yeah, man, God, I love that game so much.
And then, like I said, I played on Justice 2.
I was playing a bit of PubG.
But now PubG on Xbox you said hadn't, like, you haven't gotten.
It hasn't grabbed me in the way that the PC one did.
Yeah, we get our squad going.
There's been a couple of other games that I'm blanket on right now that I was popping between.
I played near automata a lot.
I talked about that on a game of the year podcast.
But the interesting thing to me is recently I got the Xbox 1X.
And the last couple of days, I've been playing that thing nonstop.
You made a bold claim that this is now the tides are turning.
You're going to play your third party games on that.
You said maybe.
Yeah.
No, I mean, well, I'm going to.
I mean, I have the TV.
I have the console.
Like, why wouldn't I?
You got a pro two.
You'll have trophies.
I don't care about.
I think you hide them too.
I don't even care about this stuff.
Coward!
I don't like people know any of my shit.
It bothers me.
And then I'm going to get all this fucking shit from people about,
you're still having platinum crash.
It's like, well, thank God I've never said I would
platinum or beat a game that I didn't.
I never said I would.
I said I wanted to.
I understand that.
But I wish I could platinum amplitude.
That's the one game that I want to platinum.
What's the trophy that sucks?
Dude.
You need to beat that game.
on expert difficulty,
uh,
pretty much with no retries,
no quitting,
uh,
the whole campaign mode.
And you need to get at least,
pretty much you need to get three bars on every song.
So you need to really,
really,
really good.
That whole thing takes in one sitting,
probably an hour.
And if you fuck up 45 minutes in,
you just got to start the whole thing over.
I've tried,
I've tried it like 10 times.
And it's,
it's fairly close,
but it's not close enough.
And you,
Once you do that, then you unlock the final difficulty level, which I want so bad.
Because if I had the final difficulty level, my scores would be through the roof.
Oh, is that how she's beating you?
No, no, she doesn't have it unlocked.
Yeah.
Oh, man, that's the whole thing.
But anyway, the Xbox, very interesting experience for me.
I've obviously known about backwards compatibility.
We've talked about games pass a lot.
Yeah.
I've never actively used it.
Okay.
But now I had the Xbox, I was kind of messing around with it going through and just like
re-downowning all the Xbox games I owned.
And just kind of popping things in.
The backwards compatibility a lot cooler than I gave it credit for it.
Why is that?
Because I not really looking into it because I didn't really care about the ecosystem.
And I,
it's not for me.
Always was under the assumption that,
like,
you would need the discs to,
you know,
put them in or whatever.
It's great for people that have a collection of 360 games or whatever.
You just to download them digitally for pretty cheap.
Okay, yeah.
And I'm like, that's really cool.
because that all of a sudden it's like PSN with the PS1 classics at least on the PS3.
Yeah.
It's like a virtual console.
Sure.
And I'm like, oh shit.
I didn't realize that.
That's really cool.
Um,
especially now that they have Xbox original games.
I love that type of stuff.
I'm a sucker for just like having little pop-ins of nostalgia, right?
Sure.
Fusion frenzy.
Playing the shit out of that.
Okay.
Piece of garbage.
You ever play Fusion Frenzy?
Fuck now.
Do you know what it is?
No.
It's,
it was a launch title for Xbox.
It's, um,
Mario Party.
Oh, no, I don't know.
It's just mini games.
It's just,
but there was a demo of it on the first Halo.
And I played the hell of the demo.
I'm just playing this.
It's like, oh my God,
the memory is just coming back.
Yeah.
So that was a lot of fun.
And then just kind of bounce around between,
like that type of stuff.
And then there's a lot of Xbox Live arcade games
from the 360 that are backwards compatible that you can get here.
Pac-Man Championship edition.
And I'm like, oh my God, this is awesome.
Crazy Taxi without the license music.
That's, can't do it.
But still, pop into play it.
I was like, fuck, man.
There's a,
there's a lot of shit here,
especially for party mode.
I'm like, man, like, I've made a ton of notes where I'm like,
these are going to be great to play.
And I'm crimson skies.
It's like,
oh,
playing that again.
It's just awesome.
Yeah.
And then the game pass too.
It allowed me to play a lot of these games without even paying for them because I had a
free trial of game.
Yeah,
because it came with the Xbox.
And it's,
it's so cool.
Like that's a great service.
It's way better than PlayStation now.
Sure.
It's lacking a bit of options.
GameStats?
Yeah.
Oh,
you mean like,
library-wise?
Yeah,
it's really,
good. The fact that even like Halo 5 and gears is there. I'm like, oh shit. Like they're really,
they're trying to do it. Uh, games. I'm making. Uh, very impressive. I've said it from
beginning. Games, very impressive. Really fucking cool thing. And I wish PlayStation would do it.
I, I, and I wish, you know, when I, I, we talked about this, I think on one of the shows, right,
where it's this weird thing where I think internet would tell you that I'm a PlayStation
fan boy. In reality, I know a lot about PlayStation just because I covered it for so long. And I think,
honestly, I cheer for Xbox the most where I'm like, I want you guys to,
I want, they've done so much right this generation that I want to see the wheels finally cash.
and then, you know, start really moving.
But right now it seems like exclusive to the big problem.
The PlayStation leads just insurmountable.
Yeah.
I mean, it's interesting because I, at the end of the day, I'm a Nintendo guy.
And that's just because they make the games that speak to me loudest.
But the PlayStation, I love it.
Between PlayStation Xbox, like, I'd go PlayStation because I like the controller better.
Sure.
And it's that simple.
And it's blue.
And the blue does stick with me a lot.
But then with the Xbox, it's like, if it's more powerful, I'm like, well, if I had the option,
Why wouldn't I go with that when I have everything else for it?
Sure.
So because of that, I got my, I booted up my Master Chief Collection.
Been playing a lot of the Halo 1 and Halo 2 kind of just playlist, like the matchmaking
playlist.
Okay.
Oh my God.
I love those games so much.
Yeah.
I am dog shit at them.
I'm horrible at them.
And there's nothing more stressful than playing Team Slayer, which is death match.
Sure.
Like 2V2 will be in a Beaver Creek running around.
And man, I'm dying all the time.
I feel so bad.
I see my teammate run.
Because you're not playing with friends.
You're playing with a guy.
Just like popping into matches.
I'm just like,
I'm so sorry, dude.
I wish I could help you.
I wish I could help you.
Because anyone is still playing Master Chief
is like so fucking into it.
And you're just like,
what a lark!
I'm playing,
Capture the Flag matches on Zanzibar.
And I'm like,
I know this map on the back of my hand.
I played this so many times.
And I see these motherfuckers like,
like playing Capture the flag,
throwing the flag at it.
And it's just like,
flag return.
Flag capture.
Flag return.
Flag return.
What are they fucking doing?
They're confusing me.
I don't know what's happening.
And I just see them running with it.
I guess it's faster to throw it and move because I think it's closing it down in Halo 3, which I didn't play.
It was last resort.
Whatever.
Get into the weeds of this.
But God,
I love the early Halo games.
There's just such a,
such a phone to them and the nostalgia shit that I love.
But like just playing,
being in those worlds again and seeing it on the Xbox one, not even the X.
The patch isn't out for that yet, which is kind of upsetting.
Message Collection patch.
It's like, guys, that's, you should have got that.
It launched with so many problems, then still to this day, I guess.
But that's the thing is.
And supposedly there's going to be a patch early 2018 that's going to fix a lot of the problems and add all the 4K and bells and whistles.
And I'm like, man, you should have had that already.
You think so.
So that was a weird thing.
But man, I'm really having a good time with that.
That's awesome.
I'm glad you're enjoying Xbox so much.
I want to do a party mode that is a 2-1-2, capture the flag.
Me and Nick first you need to.
Hell, yeah, let's fucking go.
No, well, I know.
Me and Nick need to be split up.
Oh, I guess that makes sense because you guys...
I don't know anything about that.
I don't know.
Blood Gulch or Beaver Creek or Beaver Tail or...
Yeah.
Oh, you miss it.
Rainbow Road.
I don't know.
Speaking of all this stuff, though, let's get into the topic of the show, Greg.
Microsoft predictions.
Yeah.
Okay?
Xbox.
And granted, we spent a whole episode to talk about PlayStation predictions.
Sure.
This one is going to be Microsoft Nintendo and third party stuff.
The Microsoft section, a lot smaller than the other guys.
And I think there's multiple reasons for that.
One, we're way more familiar with the Nintendo and PlayStation systems.
Nitty gritty stuff.
But also just be,
there's a lot more announced.
And there's a lot more things to discuss that are concrete.
Um,
so with Microsoft release dates,
we know March 20th,
Sea of Thieves.
Right.
Uh,
they have a beta coming up this month,
January.
Yeah.
And,
you know,
we've talked about that to death on a games daily and stuff.
And so the quick recap is,
we don't think it's going to do too well.
Yeah.
We're not talking about the quality of the game.
Mm-hmm.
We're talking about the fact of...
It catching on.
Yeah.
How big is the audience going to be for C of thieves?
I wish it well.
I think it looks cool.
I want to do the party mode with it.
I hit up Microsoft by getting into the beta to actually be able to do stuff with it.
But I'm not sold on this being a mainstream hit.
And I mean mainstream in terms of Xbox audience.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Totally.
I mean, to put it in terms of Nintendo, I feel like they want a Breath of the Wild or an Odyssey
and they're going to get in arms.
Okay.
It's not going to be bad.
It's going to be good.
Yeah, yeah.
It's not going to catch on.
It's not going to set the world on fire.
Maybe not even Zelda or Mario.
They want a spiltoon.
But it's going to be in arms.
Yeah, that makes sense.
People will fuck with it for a week or a weekend.
And there's going to be a majority.
People that really like it.
There's going to be a community that forms around and stuff.
Yeah.
But it's not going to catch on and everybody's going to be like, no, but really, you need to play this.
But we'll see.
And again, I hope that I'm wrong.
But then going down the rest of the list of Microsoft, it gets interesting because it's
crackdown three.
What's going on with that?
Joey asked me to say, like, do you think it's going to get canceled?
No way.
And I think it's too far along now for them to just not do the game.
But when do you think it comes out?
Do they not put a new date on it when they kicked it before?
An actual date?
Yeah.
Here we go.
This is what we're getting yelled at before.
You look for it.
But I think, I mean, it was the idea that I, Microsoft has nothing to gain by just
releasing a game that is shit or isn't up to par or isn't where they want it to be.
They already are behind the ball when it comes to exclusives.
They understand this.
Phil and his team's message has been simple, right?
Hey, we want great games.
We are going to make a big push for exclusives this year.
We want Xbox gamers to come here for exclusive experiences.
They can't put out a bad one.
And so, sure, right now we sit here in Naval Gaze and go, oh, man, will it ever come on?
Is it going to get canceled?
Blah, blah, blah.
It's way better than them putting it out and with all the respect to Recore being another
recor.
Whereas like, who we have an exclusive game?
Here it is.
And everybody's like, that's fucking a 7.0.
Nobody cares.
All right, whatever.
I'd rather sit there and I, you know, I,
Terry Cruz is a character in the game.
I wouldn't be surprised if one of the reasons is getting delayed is because they like him so much,
they're putting him into more of the game because I found it weird that he was in the trailer
and it was like, oh, he's in the debut teaser.
And then it seemed after the fact, correct me if I'm wrong in the comments that it was.
Okay, no, now he's going to be, he is a character in the game.
Oh, okay.
And then it seemed like he just went on and on and on.
What do you got for me in terms of dates over there?
I got something interesting, Craig.
Okay, lay it on me.
Now, uh, this is from express.
Don't believe it for a second then.
Yeah?
I mean, I don't know.
I'm kidding around.
Tell me what we got.
Xbox 1X games news.
Games news.
Huge leak out major release dates and new forts of horizon.
So let's go through this.
This is from today?
This is from four hours ago.
Oh, okay.
The Xbox 1X games list could soon welcome some major Microsoft's exclusives.
A new leak on Spanish Amazon store has seemingly revealed that Crackdown 3 and State of K2 release dates.
According to the page listing, state of K2 will be released on Friday, May 25th.
Fuck.
I want it sooner than that.
This will be followed by Crackdown 3,
which has a Friday, June 29th.
Okay.
Microsoft's yet to make an official announcement,
so the release dates could be placeholders.
Yeah.
And a new listing on the Brazilian ratings board
suggests that a new Forza Games in development,
the listing suggests that Forza Horizon 4 is coming in 2018.
So that's interesting because what it was,
I hate when I fuck up,
it was announced that it was being,
crackdown was moving from a November to a spring release.
It was going to be a spring thing,
where Shannon said,
We're very excited about Crackdown 3 and so are many of our fans.
And so it's a difficult call to move a release date.
However, we want to make sure we deliver the right game and the right quality at the right time.
Crackdown 3 is a hugely ambitious game and we want to ensure we deliver the right experiences all the way through every part of the game, whether that's campaign, co-op, multiplayer, blah, blah, blah.
So I think that is what they're going for.
And it is quality over, uh, uh, over, not quantity, but quality over, uh, in the moment.
You know, they want, they're looking at the long-term goal, not the short-term thing.
If we finally fucking released a game, they know they have to put out games that are great.
And so it doesn't surprise me that it's now moving from spring to June if that weird site that just talked about that's correct.
That wouldn't surprise me.
And I think it's always going to be for the best because they know they need to nail this.
It can't come out and just be a game.
It has to come out and be like, all right, it's never going to live up to the expectations.
It's never going to live up to the development cycle, the time we've been fucking talking about crackdown three.
But if it comes out and it's an 8.5 and it is a game that Kevin and I are like,
all right, fuck, let's go collect the orbs.
Let's jump to the top of that building.
Let's do that.
That's all they need.
They just need people playing Xbox.
And PubG did that.
You know what I mean?
Three million players,
totally.
They announced today as we're getting ready to record this.
Like,
PubG brought people that system.
PubG has me using my Xbox.
PubG has me using the new dashboard.
I'm like,
oh, this is a really, really good improvement.
I do use this.
This is nice.
Yeah.
Interesting.
That's what they need.
I mean, going on from Crackdown,
we got State of K.
too. So if that's the release date, then
Oh my God. Might be a question answered.
Oh my God. I can't believe
that game's not out.
Really? Yeah.
Crackdown, I understand.
Crackdown.
It's not like you said quackdown, which would be, that's also a funny name.
Quackdown has had some issues where, you know, we've seen a bunch of it feels like it's been totally retooled.
Sure.
Whatever. We get that.
But state of decay. I feel like since we started kind of funny, we were talking about
state of decay.
Oh, we were.
They put out the collection, or not the collection.
The HD, whatever the hell with all the DLC.
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay. Okay.
That was, and I stream that for a long time.
You did a bunch of content with that.
Yeah, that's why you feel like we've been talking about
State of Decay too long.
In reality, what?
It was a teaser trailer in last year's E3?
Not 2016's E3.
And then 2017, there was more and we actually got to see them play it.
And then now it's coming out this year at some point, hopefully, May 25th,
but I'd fucking really like it sooner than that.
But I'll wait as long as I have to on Dead Labs.
State of Decay.
Wow.
What a fucking great goddamn zombie game of the kind of zombie game.
I want to play that is actiony.
I can shoot it.
I can hit it in the head or whatever.
I get to drive these cars,
but it is open world of.
I'm going to go.
Today, all I'm going to do is clear out all the houses in this neighborhood
and get the X over the map when I go through and get all the things and my giant
rucksack of fucking things and over incumbents and drop them.
Oh,
perma death for your character.
It's like,
fuck yes,
I love Stated again.
God,
I can't wait for more Stated again.
I'm happy for you.
Because I feel the same way about Ori and the Will of the Whisp.
Sure.
Good Lord did I love Ori and the Blind Forest.
You did.
You really were behind that.
It is such a,
such a Tim game.
And this game coming out now
with Xbox 1X,
with HDR,
4K,
hopefully all that fancy stuff.
God,
that's going to be beautiful.
Ori is the type of game
that HDR is made for
where it's just a lot of vibrant colors,
just beautiful landscapes.
Man, can't wait for it.
Want more information.
We didn't get anything,
really.
It was just kind of,
hey,
it exists,
which more than enough for me.
Good.
That wasn't a guarantee.
Yeah.
So I'm very excited for that.
that. But that's kind of it on my list of things besides PubG having a full release at some point.
And the question of, is it going to stay exclusive? Is it going to come to PS4?
That is a great question. And what do you think? I mean, now where we're at with it being such a
huge hit on Xbox, does that make them be like, you know what we're committing to this?
Or does that make him go, hey, we can be a huge hit everywhere.
Oh, no, I don't think it's going to be exclusive to Xbox forever.
I think there was a rumor, if you remember, about Xbox trying to extend the
exclusivity. This is before it was even out yet. I think that was Xbox, at least in a public sense,
what I think most people knew that this thing's going to be fucking huge. And like, God, we need to
capitalize on this. I think if Xbox would have gotten it full time, if they would have gotten
lifetime exclusivity on it, it would have been, guess what? We've hit three million players in
PubG and we are officially the only place you'll ever play this on a console. What do you think is
the latest they can announce that if that would be the case? But do you think that time is done or
maybe there's still deals happening
where they could come out and be like...
I mean, you can announce that whenever.
You figure they could go,
hey, we're about to go 1.0 with it
and guess what?
It's the only place you'll ever play it.
I don't think you would, though,
because you'd have to imagine
for that to happen,
PubG would have to think
the money Xbox is going to give us
for this deal would supersede the amount
we'd make on a PlayStation 4 or Switch.
And I'm not saying it's coming to switch,
but you know what I mean?
But they've been so clear in their messaging
and we want this on every department.
advice and we want this. They understand that this is a juggernaut game. This is a
Minecraft kind of game that wherever you put it, it's going to sell a gillian copies.
And I think for them, while I believe PubG has legs, obviously, I think it'll be this entire
year and well into 2019 and probably beyond that because I think they'll keep reinventing it
and putting on new maps and doing stuff. While that is true, strike while the iron is hot.
And so it's got to be that Xbox wants more time or tried to get more time. And I assume they were
like, we're going to stick with the agreement we made and use.
this experience to figure out consoles and figure out what's right and wrong with what we've built for consoles and then get it to PlayStation 4 because I think Sony will have no choice in the same breath right of like hey we are the big we have the most consoles on the market and now we have the biggest game going pub g out here let's get it out there let's go crazy with and do all stuff so then a couple question marks Greg lay on me shadow of the tomb raider right where the fuck is this game exists it's real we we know
and it's still not actually confirmed as the title.
Right.
Exactly.
From the Montreal.
Yeah.
Well,
do you remember that?
Yeah,
that's why I was looking at the Tomb Raider tweet.
Yeah,
the tweet where if you look at the first letter of every word,
it spells out shadow.
Yeah.
So it's going to be Shadow the Tomb Raider.
But the question is,
is it Xbox exclusive?
Or does it launch multi-platform?
My answer there would be,
it has to be in multi-platform.
I think,
uh,
rise of the Tomb Raider was done.
a grave disservice being put just on Xbox.
And I feel that it handicapped, you know, took it out at the knees,
what it was going to do and what kind of impact that game would have.
And that game's fucking awesome.
That game didn't get the love it deserves.
And even when they put out the, I see it over there,
Rise of the Tomb Raider, whatever edition on PlayStation Force, but, you know,
20th anniversary edition.
Yeah, definitive edition, whatever the fuck they called it.
When they put it there.
even that just didn't drive sales or hype because it is an old game. Old game is old and that sucks and you don't do that. And so even if you're talking about monetarily, hey, they're going to give us a good chunk of change. We should do that. I think there's a big part of video game development that is the pride and the well-deserved praise and the fandom and all that stuff. And you don't get that with what was done to Rise of the Tomb Raider. Rise of the Tomb Raider wasn't as a Bigger. Rise of the Tomb Raider wasn't as a big.
of deals it should have been because it had this split launch. And anytime somebody's getting interviewed,
the question isn't about how great it is, how many hours it is? It's when's it, how long is the
exclusivity deal? I'm like, oh, I can't talk about. We're only talking about Xbox, other times,
shit like that. That's a shitty thing to do to your developers who busted their ass to make that game.
And it sucks that then when it gets to Game of the Year time, the first year, when it's just on
Xbox, people are like, well, I guess whatever, primarily it's Xbox year, right? I was just like,
I didn't play it enough to know. Yeah, it's cool, but this is this other game that we all played
more out. It just doesn't get the juice it deserves and that sucks. And I think that that goes
a long way to a studio's, uh, uh, overall, not culture, but attitude. And I think that you don't want to
be, have your developers work on something for two, three years, four years, haven't put it out there
and not yet as many paths in the back of it as they can. And I just think that it's not worth it.
I think especially as the way the PlayStation 4 has continued to run away, you need and want to
get your games on there, especially as square is trying to figure out how to make the most money in
closing studios and getting rid of properties.
Like they're in the,
they're in this business to make money.
And so now they need to.
And when the fuck is Avengers coming, who knows?
And so it's, that's the same thing.
I'm sure it's probably on your multi-platform list eventually, whatever.
But they, you know, the,
what's the rumor is that this is,
this being Tomb Raider is a joint project right between, uh,
it's IDAS Montreal and Crystal Namix, right?
And that's, because it was from the Montreal subway that the photo was taken.
Yep.
And that, but then it's also, isn't that this,
it's the same way for one of them is supposed to be head on,
I think,
I think it's Montreal's head on Tomb Raider,
the rumor,
Crystal's the head on Avengers,
but they're still getting help up there too.
Help from both of them.
And so it's this,
you need to keep these people happy and make them put out their games
and make them get to as many people.
There's not a chance.
Short answer,
I don't think there's a chance in hell this is an Xbox exclusive.
I think they learned it.
I think Xbox didn't see the results they wanted in it
because when people sit there and talk about the exclusives on Xbox,
they don't fucking talk about the rest of the Tombrader.
Yeah.
Very interesting.
So then I guess the big questions are,
so there's the forts of games that we just read the rumor,
potentially about Horizon 4.
That I feel will happen.
But then there's the next Halo,
the next gears,
some new IP,
like what's going to happen with the rest of Xbox's lineup?
Because for me looking at it,
gears for fuels like it just happened.
Yeah.
Because it did, right?
That was a year and a half ago.
So we were here.
Yeah.
Um, Halo 5, it's been a while.
Yeah.
Like we weren't in the studio yet.
That was the year before that.
And, you know, Halo being kind of the big juggernaut Xbox, uh, franchise, they, they need to, to fix some things.
People loved guardians, but sales numbers show that it wasn't as high as the some of the previous games.
I think a lot of it had to do with the fact that three four three fucked up with master chief collection and, you know, all of the stuff that they have.
But now with the Xbox one X and all the stuff that they're going, there is more good.
will and if they do fix Master Chief Collection and go forward, I think it's been long enough
with Halo that they could come out and have a big splash with it. My thing is, if we don't see
Halo 6 or whatever it ends up being called at E3 this year, I totally believe that's going to be
a next Xbox game. Sure. And they're... If I was internal right now, I would 100% hold
to the next Xbox. I think, and I, again, this all sounds so negative, but I'm the, I want Xbox
to succeed. I think the Xbox 1X and what they're doing now and all these programs aren't to win
this generation. I think they are to build a foundation in this generation of like, cool, we are
fine being behind PlayStation this time, build up goodwill, do exactly what PlayStation did with
PS3. Get this, the community that's stuck here, make them happy to be Xbox fans and celebrated
to be Xbox fans and give them state decay and different little games and little exclusives and all these
things so that when we announced, when we announced next box, it is cool and it's launching with
Halo 6 and it is this big deal. And I feel like you're talking about how, you know,
the last Halo didn't set the world on fire because of Master Chief Collection and all these
different things. I think it's just, it didn't set the world on fire just because there's been
so much fucking Halo. Well, I think that's what's saying with Master Chief Collection. Yeah.
That's a lot of Halo being put on Xbox One and for it to also have fuckups. Yeah. Yeah.
I feel like it's just coming off of reach coming off of ODST coming off of all of the.
It's totally an Assassin's Creed situation of just like, cool, it's no longer special because it's no
longer here. It's the same way,
Call of Duty obviously still sells juggernaut numbers and stuff,
but it's not a fucking cultural event anymore, where it was for a while,
where everyone, on that hype ramp up of when we were all like,
holy shit, this is becoming a cultural phenomenon.
You know, every November there's this thing. And like,
it was Call of Duty Day. And like, it was so cool to see those ads that had
celebrities in them, like, run around, shooting shit. But now it's just like,
you expect that, you know that's going to be there. Okay. And so it still
sells really well, which is fine, but Master Chief or Halo isn't finding that
success. So totally stop.
Make people ask for it where the fuck is.
And not ask for it like we do where it's like, well, it's been a few years.
It's probably time for it.
I want, like the real fucking Xbox fan, the last Xbox fan who bought a PlayStation
4, but give him time to miss Master Chief and miss Halo.
And come back and fucking do it all.
Just play a blow it up.
Give him the fucking poncho.
Yeah.
And I don't know.
It's going to be interesting because, you know, forever we always talked about games launching,
game consoles launching with that killer app isn't a great business.
strategy just because there's not the install base that you need.
But Breath of the Wild totally proved that wrong.
And I don't know, the next Xbox coming out with a proper Halo game at launch.
That's huge.
I understand the argument there.
Like, it build up a, I always feel like if you're talking about third party, of course, wait,
let's not put a lot of time into this.
Get the, let these consoles get their ground.
But I think for first party, when you don't know, when you're behind, when you're behind,
When yours behind is Xboxes, they need to punch PlayStation in the industry in the fucking mouth with the next Xbox and what their next big move is.
And they need to say, it needs to be clear, right?
It needs to be exactly.
I've laid out here like foundation, goodwill, we got it.
And then B, hey, fuck everybody.
This is what we've been working on.
These are the exclusive studios that you've, by that time, you've seen us pick up these people and bring them in first party and not tell you what they're working on or talk about deals we've signed for, for, first, or exclusive games.
and then come out and have that thing be like, I mean, I know this is just the fucking
matrix where we just repeat the same cycles over and over again, but be PlayStation
PlayStation 3 to PlayStation 4 and come out and have your February event and hat and hand
to be like, hey, we fucked up when we launched the Xbox 1 and we never really
regained from that.
But we did get goodwill with games pass in this and that and blah.
And that's why we're going to tell you that we've made it very clear, you know,
we don't do gimmicks anymore.
We're all about fucking games.
Let me tell you about the next 12 months on your X, Xbox.
and what's going to happen.
Yeah.
Crush it.
So,
I mean,
am I missing anything here
with the big Xbox
franchises that whether or not
we've seen in recently?
Stubbs the zombie.
Right.
Blinks the time cat.
But because with Halo and gears,
like those are still kind of the big ones
with Forza being there as well.
But I don't know.
Let us know in the comments
if there's things that we're just not missing
because we just don't have the knowledge.
Our feet planted there.
Yeah, exactly.
But I mean,
I feel like we're hitting the big stuff.
And I'm talking about the big stuff.
Yeah.
Of course it's a good.
be a whole bunch of
killer instinct and stuff like that.
Which I put it up for the first time.
I had fun with it.
Ultra combos and stuff.
Okay.
Okay.
That opposite thing of injustice where I feel like that game a little over complicated
to get into in the beginning where I was like,
there's too much going on.
I'm out.
Killer instinct?
Yeah.
Okay.
You were talking about Avengers.
We talked about that in the beginning of the last predictions episode.
Got you talked about the big questions.
Unicorns is what I called.
But I mean, just to kind of recap on whatever our new thoughts are on it,
Do you think it's Xbox exclusive?
Oh, Avengers.
No.
I give a hard note.
I feel like they want that.
Exactly.
And they'll try,
but it's not going to be worth it.
But it's not going to be worth it.
But everything I just said about Tomb Raider, I think, stands the reason the exact same way here.
The only wrinkle is that I think, similar to Spider-Man,
Avengers is a big enough title.
Like, Tomb Raider, I felt, yeah, was held back by its exclusivity.
And that hurt it.
I think Avengers could drive sales.
would drive sales of an Xbox one
in the same way Spider-Man is going to drive sales of
PlayStation. If they make a fucking good-looking
Spider-Man PlayStation 4 Pro, I will fucking buy it.
And then I'll just have another fucking pro for some reason.
But I'm like, you know what I mean? That's a promise.
Don't make it look like shit, PlayStation.
But I don't think so.
I feel like that Square didn't see the return
they probably wanted on Toon Raider, so why would they?
But it's just, I guess this is an apples and oranges.
Tomb Raider to Avengers is not the same fucking thing.
No, not at all.
Although Tomb Raider is a franchise.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
The Game, I would say, the video game, if not Avengers, the video game, like, I don't know, X-Men, not specifically Wolverine, but like, it's known.
Tomb Raider and video games are synonymous.
Sure, but that doesn't lead, that, obviously, that's, you know, that name brand doesn't lead to sales.
That doesn't leave to guaranteed success.
It doesn't, it doesn't lead to moving a unit, it doesn't move to Xbox, you know, buying an Xbox.
Whereas I think Avengers, yeah, would lead to.
you buying Xbox.
Spider-Man is going to lead to people buying a PlayStation.
And I don't, you know, not knowing how these backroom deals work.
I don't, if I was Xbox, I'd like, that sucks, guys.
Come on, Bill.
Give us something.
Give us something.
I wonder if Avengers is, got, Spider-Man, I totally agree.
We'll sell systems.
I wonder if Avengers will.
If the problem right now that we can't say if it would or wouldn't say we haven't seen
the game.
Yeah.
I think if they, if we, if we, if they had footage out there like Spider-Man does and it is
fucking awesome and it's bonkers and it's fucking cap jumping.
through like windows with the shield and landing on people and rolling off and fighting somebody.
And then it's a, you know, you jump cut to Thori, do all this different stuff.
Like I could see you being like, holy fuck, this game is amazing and I have to play it.
But right now, just being like off the one trailer, I don't know, or the teaser.
Yeah, I don't know what the hell this game is.
Not at all.
Yeah.
Moving on to third parties and multi-platform games here, Greg.
You're skipping Nintendo, saving the best players.
I am because looking at the time, I'm thinking Nintendo might be its own episode next week.
You know what?
Let's just, this is just the year of 20.
This is how we do the shows this year.
I'm down.
Every year we just, we try to do as many predictions.
We can't.
We can't.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I love this stuff.
I feel like the predictions is something that we're good at, like having that discussion.
Well, we're great at coming up with fucking ideas that never come true.
That's true.
Hey, no, but that's what I'm saying.
I'm not saying that we're good at predicting things that actually happen.
I'm good at, I think that we're good at having the discussion about predicting things and
and why things may or not happen.
These are our gatorade get-h moments.
No, I don't.
You got them rough hands.
And I have them soft hands.
I don't know.
My hands are real rough hands.
Mine are very soft.
Kevin, get me the lotion.
Loation them up.
Cool, Greg.
Lotion.
My God.
I can't do the show if I have bad hands.
Really?
No, I can totally do the show,
but I can do the show with no hands.
No hands at all?
I'm gonna pee, Greg.
I was, I hope I thought there was a better segue there,
but there wasn't.
Hey, everybody, it's me, Greg Miller.
Tim's got to pee.
So talk to me a little bit right now.
If you're in your car, how you doing?
Oh, really?
Bad day at work you saying?
That sucks.
Kevin's going to lotion me up here
This is going to come out
Like it's been just pent up for 13 years
Ah yeah
Okay now we're talking
All right now Kevin sit down
How much do you miss PubG right?
Oh my God I miss it so much
But I also miss uh Grand Theft Auto
I do too
I just feel like we're never gonna
We're never gonna play enough to do everything
But that's only because you're saying that
You know what I mean?
Sure
I'm a realist
You said Kevin if you're ready
I'm ready and I'm going to hard
And I'm still ready
But I'm just saying we didn't
We need to do that over a break.
Well, we need to do.
Whose fault was that?
Me, I went away.
Yeah.
What we need to do, what we need to do is set up a schedule.
I like how you keep saying what we need to do.
We need to do.
And commit to the schedule.
You're like, all right, Mondays, we leave and we play or we pull out here and play here.
There you go.
See, that might, that might be the thing.
It's because when we get home, it's these women we love, our wives.
Yeah.
They're the problem.
They want to talk to us.
They want to take care of us.
They want to tell us about their day.
And we're like, do you understand, I want to buy these tires?
I got to buy these tires for this fake car I have.
And that's the worst part because on the, you know, the, uh, anniversary stream, I pit my car out.
My car looks fucking great.
Oh, yeah.
I gotta get back in there.
All the best friends are wearing the same suit.
I know, it's awesome.
Same, similar suit.
I hear you know what we should do.
Yeah, I love the idea.
Let's, you know, set up times and days to play Grand Tentato.
We should also then...
Is it getting cut out?
Oh, no.
Oh, okay.
We also then need to do where we get peanut.
or whoever and be like,
you're dragging us through this fucking heist
so we can get the goddamn money.
Because what I really,
I don't even want to do the heist.
There's a problem is I think you have to do the heist a couple times.
Yes,
by a couple,
I mean like 10,
like 10 times.
I'm not even talking.
It was like if you do things,
right,
you get like,
I think you said 500.
Sure,
but here's the thing.
You're thinking,
you're thinking about how do we go from the heist
to the delornium.
Yeah.
All I want to do is go from the heist
to be in my own like,
I'm making marijuana.
No, no, no.
I want to get the little thing
to make the marijuana or to run the drug.
I want to get my own little cottage industry going.
And then I can just pop into like,
I'm going to go make a drug delivery
and go get the money from that and stuff.
Okay. All right.
That sounds good.
I didn't know you could get your own little.
Cottage industry?
Cottage industry.
Yeah.
Have you watched Daniel Dewey or Noclip himself,
his documentary on the GTA people?
I watched parts of it.
Did you get to when the group meets that girl
and she comes over?
Go to that because the woman they meet.
She was just running her drug someone.
and then they blew it up
and it was like a real laugh for them
but she was about to make a million dollars
and I'm like, that's what I want to do.
I just want to fucking make millions of dollars
in this fake video game.
Sure.
It's fucked up that we can't get
just get someone to give us money in the game.
Rockstar doesn't care.
You know what I mean?
They care.
They like us.
Uh-huh.
But they're rocks.
No, I meant like kill a best friend
that's like,
all right, cool.
I have 500,000 that I'm not using
and he just dies dead and we take his money.
That's a really good point.
But I think once you deposit it,
maybe you can withdraw it.
But is that wrong?
You can rob people.
What are the ethics?
You can rob people.
There's got to be best friends watching right now or listening right now.
Like, oh man,
I play.
I haven't played Grand Theft Auto in four years and I'm never going to play it again.
But for those two years that I did play,
I pay it up.
Sign on with all your money on it and let us beat you to death with baseball balls.
We'll do it on stream.
Yeah.
All right, Tim.
It's great show.
I love it.
Until next time, patreon.com.
All right.
Third party,
multi-platform.
Release dates we know, Greg.
We're starting off with.
January 23rd.
We got the worst
titled game of all time.
Guess who named it?
Square Annex.
Lost sphere.
They misspelled sphere.
Spheres spelled S-P-H-E-A-R.
What the fuck is this game?
It's the follow-up to I-M-Setsuna.
Oh!
Okay.
So, J-R-PG.
Wow.
Yeah, terrible name.
Terrible.
Come into Windows, Switch, and PlayStation 4.
I'm sure it's going to be good.
I'm sure it's going to be great.
I-S-S-Sat-S-S-S-S-U-R-G.
Yeah.
But then you got this name and you're like,
Okay, cool.
We'll see what that happens there.
And then finally, for everybody asking for it,
January 26th, Monster Hunter World on Windows,
PS4 and Xbox 1.
Lame game?
Kevin, mark my words.
You'll be hunting monsters with me.
You're stoked about it, Greg?
I'm not stoked.
My interests peaked.
Peaked.
Peaked my interest this game.
As I've said,
huh?
What was that?
I don't like this game.
You don't even know if you like this game.
I don't.
I said interest piqued.
I enjoyed my time with the monster hunters
when I had a review.
I got sick of them,
never wanted to play another one.
But now,
it's been 10 years.
PlayStation 4,
a whole bunch of stuff's different.
It's a whole new world,
brand new attitude.
It's supposed to be
the game.
And you get a random monster generated.
No,
that is not this game.
That's Pokemon.
That's Monster Rancher.
I know.
I just look around.
I love Monster Rancher.
It's a great game.
God damn.
So I'm interested to try it and see what's up.
Will it click?
Who knows?
Probably not.
But if it does,
I'm going to drag Kevin in there.
And that's the other thing.
Kevin and I start at the same time on a game.
Mm-hmm.
With the community as well.
We're out there hunting monsters.
And I get to say,
come on,
let the hunt be the hunted.
Remember that song?
No.
They used to play it a lot during,
I think,
I want to say it's from the same guys
you did,
no, probably not.
POD.
Come on, let the hunt be the...
Boom.
I'll look into it.
Boom.
Here comes the boom.
Ready or not.
I let the radio play.
How you like me now.
That was an amplitude one.
Okay.
Anyways, I'm going to try it.
Yeah, it's exciting.
January 26, Dragon Ball Fighters
on Windows.
is PS4.
Oh, actually that's,
I find out what's called
Dragon Ball Fighter Z.
No, somebody correct to me.
I kind of funny games daily
that I was,
I kept saying,
no,
no,
I kept saying that.
Oh, yeah.
Because I'm like,
what a stupid fucking title.
It's Dragon Ball Z and they fight,
Greg.
Sure.
Put the Z lowercase then,
and I don't pronounce the Z.
Absolutely stunning.
To the point that I'm like,
like I've been saying
all episode here,
it's a theme.
I enjoy fighting games.
Not good at them.
I enjoy it.
Not a dragon ball guy.
Not because I don't like
Dragon Ball.
I just never watched it,
never read it,
never partook in this whole thing.
Kevin loves it.
Big fan of it.
I'm definitely giving this game a shot just because of how good it looks.
I want to support things like that.
It reminds me a cup head where I'm like even before I saw like I knew about that game,
just a couple glimpses of it.
I'm like, I need to play that game just because I support the art style.
Same thing with Dragon Ball Fighters.
Okay.
I was thinking of saliva, the spy hunter theme.
Interesting.
They have a music video here.
Don't play it.
I'm gonna wait for them to get to the come on let the hunt be the haunted
man saliva
they used to play that during W&B the PS2 game
man I rented the shit out of that game
it was all time game awards when Rock made fun of the score from game
informer which was awesome good lord good Lord says team
February 15th Alboy on switch fucking finally right and PS4 and Xbox one
we're playing it on switch yeah exactly but God yes you know it's about time
These gentlemen behind this game, they came through for our first GDC last stream in 2015.
Great people.
Took them forever.
They put it on that stupid PC.
But here we go.
Finally coming to something we care about.
Good job,
oh boy.
It's going to be a good time.
Andy Cortez stoked as fuck for this game.
True story.
He did the mocap for the owl.
Oh my God, really?
Yep.
Wow.
What a hoot.
What a hoot that guy.
February 15th, Secret of Manna on Windows.
The remake.
4 and PSVita.
Vita.
Vita lives.
Vita lives.
Are you excited about it?
Nah.
Never got it into the secret.
Secret games.
Secret.
February 20th,
Metal Gear Survive on Windows,
PS4 and Xbox 1 with the beta out,
January 18th through 21st.
We'll see.
We'll see.
Let's see what happens.
Yeah, man.
People are so
so down on this game.
Oh, yeah.
And they have such an uphill battle
to fucking fight on this one.
I saw McCaffrey, I guess IGN put up like a,
I don't know if it was IG first or just put up an exclusive,
whatever.
And McCaffrey is on Twitter being like,
I don't understand why Pete.
I understand you're mad.
but why is it just automatic thumbs down
on the YouTube video?
I'm like,
that's how this game's gonna be,
dude.
I saw it daily fix had a thing
Alana was talking about it
and the thumbnail was her
like face palming.
So yeah,
there's definitely an attitude towards this game
that I mean,
as far as I'm concerned,
I share where it's,
I want it to be good,
but the little bit I saw you play
at three.
I was like,
yeah,
that multiplayer did not do it for me.
This does not look good.
And I doubt I'm going to be like,
I want to play single player.
The trailer they put out,
I was like,
this does not look good.
The idea of them doing a
a PubG clone,
I'm in.
Give it to me.
Yeah,
but they're not doing it.
Yeah.
So I'm like,
all right, guys.
Yeah.
Yes,
man.
This whole,
boof.
I wonder,
yeah,
it's,
I mean,
the internet,
certain people on the internet
never forget anything,
right?
So it's like,
it'll be interested
to see if Konami,
what happens to
Konami from here?
Who knows?
Do they ever do
do another console game after this?
Do they give a shit?
Does it matter?
How,
how badly are sales
going to be affected?
If the game came out
and actually is interesting,
will people play and give a shot?
Yeah.
If Konami came out with a remake of Metal Gear Solid 1 in the Fox engine, I'd buy it.
I'm just being honest.
I'm being...
Yeah, no, I mean, I would definitely be interested in playing.
I mean, I just put fucking Twin Snakes out.
I'd buy it.
You know what I mean?
I mean, like, I hear what you're saying.
But it is just such a weird situation.
It is weird.
How much does all this matter to the person who just knows Metal Gear's a name?
Do they understand all this Kajima stuff?
Do they care?
I don't know that this game speaks to them then.
But I mean, like...
This game's so...
But that's the thing is like...
It's existing.
is in a time and place
that it shouldn't be.
Like, Metal Gear survived
coming out as a left for dead clone
slash maybe kind of a weird.
Yeah, it doesn't feel like like like what's it called?
Like Fortnite.
Yeah.
Base defense.
Base defense, like tower defense type shit.
Like, I don't know, man.
Like this is not the era that this.
And that's why I just don't understand
the vision of Konami at that point of
are we just trying to cash in?
Are we trying to get one more role
out of the Metal Gear die
before we leave console games?
Are we, do they really believe
this and that's this game's gonna come out and be fantastic or not fantastic but like do they really
believe in this and they tried their I mean I know the people on the team tried but like did they have
a vision that we're like we have to make this game this game is too cool not to make no one's
been up front in front of the messaging saying dude we had to make this we understand everything
that's happened but this is why we're doing it yeah it's a normal thing of jenko survive and it would
have been the same sure thing I don't know um but speaking of metal gear god I love the gameplay so much
I love the controls of Metal Gear Solid 5.
And that reminded me,
I forgot to bring it up earlier
when I was talking about,
my chief collection,
playing Halo 1 and Halo 2
and clicking in the stick to sprint
and it not running
or hitting down the left trigger
to aim down sights
and it not doing it.
Wow.
Like, I never would have thought,
like to me,
Halo was the pinnacle
of first person shooting controls.
And man,
we've come a long way.
Yeah.
Still fun as fuck.
Sure.
But wow,
it's just a different style.
When you go for something like that,
It's not there. It's like, wow.
How do we play this game before?
Let me try to play Golden Eye now.
Oh, yeah.
Well, I just got perfect dark on Xbox backwards compatibility from the rare replay.
Yeah.
Oh, no.
I got it.
I got it from the game pass backwards compatibility.
But it also is available at Rare We Play on Xbox 1.
Anyways, March 13th, double micro HD collection on Windows, PS4 and Xbox 1.
Super awesome.
This is just even more evidence that DMC5 is going to happen.
wasn't announced at PSX
like everybody says it was Gunnew
and that's kind of weird because the people
that were leaking that are
usually right. It was the president of
Capcom. Yeah. And
I think that a lot of that had to do.
If I had to guess not knowing, I imagine
that's because PSX ended up not
being what anyone expected it to be
and I think that was a so easy. Interesting.
Like I feel like and again, don't know shit.
Totally pulling this out of my ass. But I imagine
that PlayStation planned
to do a press conference at PSX
and all the developers like HAPCOM also planned on them doing that.
And when they're like, oh, hey, actually, we're not doing that.
It's just going to be this weird, like, showcase hanging out with Greg Miller thing.
They're like, fuck that.
They're like, oh, get it away from him.
But, yeah, I imagine.
The Oreo guy?
No, thanks.
But, man, so exciting, especially Devil Me Cry, uh, three.
That's one of those games that I love just going back to you and playing through randomly.
Sure.
And to have it on a console available to me now is really exciting because this HD collection
was released on
360 and PS3
but like a lot
there was so many
PS2 trilogy
HD collections like
Prince of Persia
Jack and Daxter
Ratchet and Clank
I miss out
on a couple now
devil my crying and stuff
but during that generation
now they're all just gone
totally a non-sack
we're back to the episode
from two weeks ago
I just remember chat
how close to our Shadow Colossus
I was like I want to play that
and I was like oh fuck
I want to play Shadow the Glosses
real close because that was another game
Eko and Shadow Clausus was
yeah that's what made me think of it
you see
Oh, so many, so many great ways.
Cool Greg feels me.
March 20th, the Attack on Titan 2 on Windows Switch,
PS4 and Xbox 1.
That game, you know, you kind of write it off.
It's like, oh, a license thing, whatever.
There was such a culture around it.
Oh, yeah, people love a Texan.
That I was no, I know Attack on Titan,
but about this game.
I was unaware that, like, the game was such a popping off thing
where if you look up YouTube videos,
they're insane.
The things people are doing with the,
what's the shit called, Kevin?
The O-E-D?
You know what I'm talking about?
like unidirectional whatever the fuck it is.
Like flying around like Spider-Man and shit
and like you can play multiplayer
with a whole bunch of different people together
and it's taking down tightens.
It looks really cool.
Sequel's coming out.
March 23rd, a way out on Windows PS4
and Xbox one.
So stoked for that.
Fuck the Oscars.
That's gonna be fun as hell.
Yeah.
Fuck the Oscars.
Yeah, that game looks great.
I'm really excited to actually play it
and see if it all comes together
and then if it's fun to replay or anything like that.
Yeah.
No, man.
It looks great.
I love the idea.
such a novel cool thing and it being a shorter game is definitely right at my alley.
Uh, March 27th, Far Cry 5.
This is post delay.
I was,
Windows, PS4 and Xbox one.
The other day I was sitting there and because I went, I, this is a, a let's play that
never went live.
I went and played multiple hours of Far Cry single player at Ubisoft in, if right,
right before break and the embargo lifted right before break.
And my, our footage, the webcam kept slipping.
The audio kept slipping and with the time ticking down for us having to leave,
I just didn't have time to troublesheed.
it.
That, I mean,
Far Cry in general does fun,
but this one I'm super,
like I'm,
I sit there and I blade through like on my cross media bar
or something I want to play,
but I don't know what it is.
This is it.
And this is definitely what for me and Kevin being on this multiplayer kick.
Having him come into each other's game and do co-op and shit,
that's going to be a lot of fun,
especially because it's going to be,
I'll just play, play, play, play,
and then he'll pop on.
I'm like, oh, come to your game and help you out
and come do this different shit.
But taking down the barns, you know,
or like the, you know, the cult barns or whatever,
uh,
driving around and all.
all that craziness.
I went into a,
you know,
a gas station and was like,
looking around,
it was like all blown out.
I was like,
mainly, you know,
it's a less place.
I'm,
it's like exploring,
seeing what this is all about.
And what was it?
I guess,
not a honey badger,
but some,
like this game's honey badger,
which I forget what's animal it is.
It came in and attacked me and it was that,
fucking,
I'm like running away,
and I finally get enough that it starts running away.
And I fucking tag it and I'm chasing it.
And then there's people coming at me because they see me.
I was like,
this is fucking fun.
This is far crying.
It's fun.
Man, the Far Cry 4 Let's Play this video
did A's Jan, which is so much fun.
Dude, I'll never, I will never ever forget that one
where me and Brian, yeah, we were playing.
It was the first one we ever shot.
And we walked, oh, here's a cave.
And we walked into the cave and it was a tiger that ran out.
And what I fucking, like, threw the grenade as it was growling.
And then it came running at me.
And just as it went to clear the cave,
the grenade went off and blew its body past our head.
We were like, that's fucking amazing.
Yeah, I loved the little paraglider thing.
Yeah.
I just jumping off, paraglider and they threw the tower.
is of blowing shit up. God.
The same thing in here, right?
Of like, yeah, getting up in the plane and then jumping out and putting on the squirrel suit
or whatever.
I'm like, yes, just give me this game.
This is a game.
You know, I love America.
But I love a setting that's familiar to me.
So for Far Cry to come to America and give me those things like, oh, that's really cool.
And then just how pretty the game is, how, you know, interesting the gameplay is because
it's whatever you want it to be.
I don't know.
I just can't fucking wait.
April 13th, we happy few on Windows, PS4 and Xbox one.
another one that felt like it's been forever forever i feel like and then correct me if i'm wrong
in the chat uh the chat in the comments i believe this is another one that was early access
and so that's the problem i think we just this would have been a good example i feel like for
uh kind of funny games daily this week we were talking about has early access ever heard a game
and we're talking about like buzz or like the the person writing it was talking more about like sales
and stuff and i was talking more about buzz and i feel like that's what happened with we happy few
where there was a lot of buzz about how great this game was and then it went to early access and then
that it was that weird like whoa like that's a weird gear shift and so like it's out but it doesn't
have vio yet or it was something weird like that way it's out and it's like well I'll wait for the
full but it's so hard I feel like for that kind of game like that's not PubG and I'm having
a different match every time when it's like okay it's not a final game but it's I don't know if they're
going to be able to get that buzz back that they had coming off of the reveals and stuff yeah
especially with no big event pushing it right around that march time right yeah
packs east isn't going to do it for you or what it's
Okay, what's this coming?
And then in May, we got Street Fighter 30th anniversary collection on Windows Switch,
PS4 and Xbox 1.
That's great.
I mean, it's so, it's funny to be.
Good for you.
No, no, no, it's seriously.
That's great.
They're going to be arcade perfect ports of all the classic Street Fighter games.
Sure.
Pre Street Fighter 4.
And it's just funny to see them fuck up Ultra Street Fighter 2 on the final challengers on Switch.
Which so bad that to then come out with this.
And it's, it's funny.
because it really does feel like a proof of concept thing where they're like,
oh, hey,
you know,
people will still buy this on Switch.
We might as well do it.
Yeah,
I mean,
having all the alpha games,
having all the like third strike and all that.
It's,
it's cool.
I love street fighter.
Again,
fighting games fun to pop into.
Yeah.
Having them all in one place is great.
I remember on the PS2 there was the,
the anniversary edition that I guess was for the 20th anniversary.
And that was a lot of fun.
And then we know the first half of Ubisoft fiscal year,
2018 to 2019.
the crew two will come out on Windows
PS4 and Xbox one.
That was another one that got delayed.
Get out of here with this.
Just cancel it.
Favorite story about crew two.
I don't care how many goddamn times
I'll tell it.
Go ahead.
Nick Scarfito going into his appointment
at E3 to play the game
and asking the developer
if he could invert the controls
before he started playing.
And they're like, what?
No.
And he's just like, why?
They're like, because it's racing.
And he was like, oh, fuck.
He thought the crew
was like a GTA style.
Yeah, you're going to be fair person jumping out right.
What a fucking idiot.
Instead now, it's cars and boats and planes.
I love it.
Yeah.
I mean, the crew is fun.
Exactly.
Maybe I'll speak to Pete.
It just didn't speak to me.
I'm sure it has an audience.
And so don't cancel.
I'm just joking around.
Ubisoft.
Don't, don't get all prickly bare.
The crew was such a cool concept of.
You can drive from edge to edge of the United States and then doing it wasn't that fun.
But then once you got the pockets of it with all the cool missions and all like the jumps
and stuff,
Like that was great, but I feel like there was too much padding in the game that kind of took away the, from the awesome moments.
And then random games we know are coming in 2018 that do not have release dates yet.
Ace Combat 7 on Windows, PS4 and Xbox.
Played safety VR support.
Yeah.
That's the interesting factor to me where I'm like, okay.
I want to get in the cockpit.
I did it at Judge's Week on a PSVR and it felt fucking real.
And it was definitely like I'm in the cockpit flying.
I'm like looking over my shoulder trying to find him in the thing.
and it's like, this is weird.
And then, of course, there was the motion sickness of that.
I'm trying to get up.
Because I'm just not used to being a jet fighter pilot.
You know what I mean?
I got it.
Trees didn't look that good either.
That reminds me of the X-Wing experience in a Battlefront VR.
God, I like that a lot.
Yeah.
That was a lot of fun.
Yeah, just looking around, seeing all the X-Wing shit,
and be like, man, this feels so real.
Anthem.
We'll see.
Windows, Switch.
No, no.
Windows Switch.
Windows, PS4, and Xbox 1.
2018, you think it's happening?
I don't think that it's a guarantee that it misses it.
I think there's a chance.
Because I feel like there's a lot of people that are like,
there's no way it makes 2018.
I think with how everything went with Mass Effect
and where Destiny's at,
like waiting too long for this game's not going to be a good thing.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I really don't.
I don't have a strong feeling on that one.
I could easily see it getting bumped for sure.
I could see it that yeah, maybe they're further along than we think they are.
But what were the lessons they learned in Battlefront that they want to apply to this?
Not that like Luke crates are going to be the end of anthem or how that was.
But even when you watch Destiny now and this, like, how do you figure out,
did they have to go to the back of the drawing board for a lot of it?
Do they have to worry about stuff like that?
And then just where is it the game as well.
Yeah.
I can't wait to see it again.
That the first showing blew my mind.
I would like to believe this.
I don't though.
That's where it is for me.
Yeah.
I, my heart wants to believe in 2018.
My head says it'll be 2019.
You're actually going to play this one, though?
That trailer sold me.
That trailer was the type of thing.
But you're not the multiplayer dude.
But I'm like, this shit looks so cool that I want to play.
Like I want to give it a shot, even though I know it's the genre that I am not in at all.
Okay.
Whereas Destiny, I'm like, oh, this looks like not Halo.
Sure.
This I'm like, oh, shit.
Like the iron man flying around and like going from the different terrains like being in the sky and then going down through the jungle into the water.
I'm like, wow, this looks freaking fun and cool.
and this is why I love video games.
Yeah, yeah.
But we'll see if they keep up that level of polish
and if that is a vertical slice of the best part of the game.
Right.
Freedom Planet 2 coming to Windows.
Freedom Planet is the Sonic Mania before Sonic Mania game.
Oh, finally.
It was one of my games of the year, two years ago.
Freedom Planet, one on the Wii U.
It was one my top 10.
Yeah, the first one we did.
That's kind of funny.
Gotcha.
And it's just, it's great.
It's a 2D platformer game.
There's a lot of story elements and like word bubbles.
There's VO as well.
And it's fun.
They just really,
they kind of nailed the whole,
hey,
we're going to make Sonic 2D Sonic games good.
This is before Sonic Mini was announced and stuff.
So they've been working on the sequel for a long time.
And I think that especially seeing Sonic Mania do as well as it did.
I'm hoping that this makes its way over to the Switch because I'd love to play it there.
Because I'm not going to plan on Windows.
I'm going to be honest with you, Greg.
Fair.
Going to be honest with you.
Fear effects reinvented coming out Windows.
Switch,
PS4 and Xbox one.
This is one of those I feel like,
you know what?
Hey,
we got to jump on retro things
because everyone's doing retro things.
Is anyone asking for a fair effect?
I've been waiting for another Fear Effect.
And there's multiple ones,
right?
There's Fear Effect reinvented.
That's like the remake.
And then I thought there was also a new one announced.
I don't know about that one.
But let me know.
Fear effect is literally,
right now,
like through the Rolodex of games,
I can't even,
I don't remember what Fear Effect is the one to me with the girls with big boobs.
in the ads.
Very cell-shaded and
all the market. I'd ever played them.
All the marketing was very
Hey bro.
Look, they're about to make out.
Whoa.
It was my greatest fear.
See, fear effect, Kev.
That's why I'm throwing it out.
Yeah, there you go.
Oh.
Huh.
Jesus.
Yeah.
That definitely was a product of the time right there.
Are they seeing this, Kev?
No, they can't.
That's both of them.
is broken.
Oh,
Jesus.
Well, Google.
He's dragging it over to here right now.
He was,
I thought he was dragging it.
Oh,
okay.
Don't do it.
It's a little too,
S&M.
Look up.
Fair fact,
if you want to see
what I'm talking about,
but anybody that was reading
video game magazines
during that area.
Yeah, you will recognize that.
We'll know.
Harvest Moon,
light of hope coming to switch in PS4.
Paging Joey,
no well.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
There's definitely an audience for that.
Jurassic World Evolution,
Windows, PS4 and Xbox
Xbox one.
That's the Sim.
Dinosaur Park?
Yeah.
I'm interested to see what that's like.
Yeah.
That seemed like a thing that only got as much buzz as it did because it came out on a very
slow newsday.
It seems like a game that I would have announced and then released two weeks, four
weeks, five weeks later, a dream daddy scenario.
Like when it got announced and I was like, oh, that's kind of cool.
Now I'm still, I still don't fucking have this game.
Nope.
Is it trying to time it with the movie?
You imagine?
Yeah, there's no date yet.
And then Kingdom Hearts 3, PS4 and Xbox 1.
I feel good about 2018.
Yeah.
I really do.
You're going to get it?
I really do.
And if we don't get it this year, it's like, I don't even care at this point.
Like, you're beat.
We're going to get it eventually.
There's been, the rate at which we're hearing about the game and like seeing like leaked worlds and all this stuff about it now.
I'm like, it has to be near completion.
It has to be ready to go.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Nothing has to be anything.
You'll find out soon enough.
Especially with Square.
Yeah, Mega Man 11.
Windows Switch, PS4 and Xbox one along with the Mega,
Man X collection.
Sure.
Windows Switch,
PS4 and Xbox.
You're also getting the other Mega Man,
other collections.
But like,
on Twitch.
Yeah.
Oh,
Justin Switch.
Yeah.
So,
because it's already out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's cool.
Great.
Mega Man.
People love Mega Man.
I'm excited about Mega Man X collection.
Yeah.
Mega Man X.
My favorite of the Mega Man.
Anything.
Series.
Series.
There's so many of them.
Cherizo.
Metro Exodus.
Windows Switch.
No,
why do I have that?
I just copy and paste it
when it was everything.
But it's not.
Not everything with Switch.
Sure.
Metro X is on Windows,
PS4 and Xbox.
We haven't seen more than that initial beautiful reveal trailer or not in trailer where
that was up and around.
Xbox E3.
And then they also showed like the same thing again at the Xbox gamescom conference.
Gotcha.
I want to say we saw during Game Awards at some point.
Not this year.
Maybe.
Was it last year's Game Awards and then at the E3?
I don't know about that.
Sounds right to me.
Okay.
I thought it was it.
I think it was Xbox.
that you saw a big reveal.
We saw a big trailer there.
I don't know if that was the reveal of it, though.
I look into it, I guess.
Yes, thank you.
I appreciate that.
Either way, not for me.
The game looks beautiful.
Andy was really excited about it.
Andy gets excited for Vaseline on toast.
Do you care?
No.
No, I never played any of the other Metro.
There's two of the other ones, right?
Last Light and whatever, the time won,
2049 or some shit like that.
No, just never did it for me.
I was like, all right, cool.
Do your thing.
over kills the walking dead
fucking finally
on Windows PS 4 at Xbox 1
Man
There's no way this game is good is there
Yeah
I wish there was but I don't think there is
I'd love to be wrong
I'd love to be wrong about it
But no I don't see how they can
Do that there was definitely the E3
Announce trailer
And then yes there was a Game Wars
2017 trailer this year
Oh it was 2017
So it was announcing E3
And then there was something there
Um
No
It's just been cooking forever
And I just
That doesn't
strike me is a good sign.
I hope.
Especially with the property
like Walking Dead.
Yeah.
I hope I'm wrong.
Has been kind of like
the walking.
First off.
We haven't talked about it.
Oh,
we haven't been in the comics at all.
Holy shit.
They're so good.
Hell the comics on a run.
The last 10 issues.
I caught up on like 10 issues
at a time.
Yeah.
Dude,
I caught up on the most recent one.
It was the one of the things.
I finished it last night or yesterday
on the plane and I was like,
oh fuck.
Please don't tell me that most recent.
Please.
Oh, fuck.
It was the most recent.
Fuck.
I walked right into a huge cliffhanger.
And it was good.
It was a great cliffhanger.
Yeah, they're finally shaking things up.
Oh, shake it up.
Psychonauts 2.
Windows PS4 or Xbox 1.
James Willems is more stoked than any human being in the entire world.
Was there just news this week about psychonauts?
Oh, maybe.
This list is outdated from right before break.
Not videos.
All.
I guess news would have been better.
I never really played Cyronauts.
Yeah, me neither.
No, no, no.
Platformer, but.
Polygon on, no.
well, not just the week, but December, whatever.
Psychonauts 2 won't make it's previously scheduled release window of 2018 developer
Double Fine Productions confirmed today in an update.
Expect Razz's next adventure in 2019 at the earliest.
Good Lord.
Okay.
Well, cross this one off the list.
I didn't play Psychonauts one either.
And it sounds like a game that's right at my alley.
I really should fucking stop playing games with Kevin and go play Psychonautics.
Get in there.
And then you got Rombus a ruin on the PSV.
You can do it on the Xbox one.
backwards and bad ability.
You can do it on PlayStation for
PS2 classics and get
motherfucking trolle. You could do that
if you wanted to.
Red Dead Redemption 2, PS4 and Xbox
1. So where are we coming down
on that, baby? It gets
complicated. I think it's coming.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
I'm sorry. I was sorry. I'm talking about when, though.
Like, is that a May game?
Is that a August
game? No. I don't think it's August.
I think it's... First half?
I think it's the...
first half of the year.
Um,
I,
I could see,
red dead's one of the rare games that doesn't need to give a fuck about what the first
parties are doing.
Yeah.
Because with Sony,
with the God of War and Spider-Man and,
you know,
their whole,
all that they got going on.
Most games are going to be like,
oh, we're staying away from this.
Not Red Dead.
Red Dead.
Red Dead is.
Rockstar's not afraid.
We're coming out.
We're coming out.
We're coming out.
Same day.
No.
I think.
Yeah,
May sounds good.
Spring, like right there,
April even.
But like,
I would think right in that window.
I don't think it.
We're not going to get it before March.
No, no, no, no.
So April or May, I think April's too early.
Although.
Greg Miller's birthday.
This sounds to me like an E3 release game.
E3 week release game.
There's always one.
There's always something that fucking comes out.
But I said, I could see it being Batman, Arkham Knights.
Sure.
There was last of us.
I could see it being Spider-Man this year.
The game that really comes to fuck up E-3.
Maybe.
Make you hate your goddamn life.
Why am I fucking here?
I think it's right.
Why is James Stevenson?
Red Dead.
An insomniac fucking me over in the spot of my game left.
First or second week of June.
That's where you're putting it.
Swamp.
Okay.
Skull and bones.
Yarr!
Oh, the old lady.
On Windows, PS4 and Xbox One.
Cool.
Enjoy it.
Yeah.
Was Sea a Thieves too kitty for you?
Here's the adult version.
Bye.
Except you don't actually get to ride the ship.
You are the ship.
Bye.
Oh.
It's, I don't know.
I don't know.
On paper, it doesn't, oh, that's good.
On paper, that doesn't sign a game I think you'd want to play.
Ubisoft's been pretty great about making these games that people really want to play.
Is this game going to sell well?
Yeah.
It's good.
Right.
And if it doesn't sell well initially, apparently in a year, it'll be one of the top rated games of all time.
And it'll be fucking.
Hashtag, rainbow six.
Crazy ass name numbers.
Soul caliber six on Windows PS4 and Xbox one.
All the fighting fans are going to be very hyped about that.
Sure.
final season.
On everything.
How's it make you feel?
Good.
Oh, I'm really,
I think it's maybe a season or too,
too long of this is going to be the final season,
but I'm glad they finally put a pin on it,
and that means that shit's actually going to happen and matter here.
Yeah.
Hopefully, AJ, we kill them right away.
Episode one, just boot him out of here.
Zombie toddler.
I don't need you anymore.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Other than that, I mean, like, I think it's awesome.
I'm excited to see how they end it.
I, you know, I've loved my ride with Clem,
And there's been ups and downs, obviously.
Or I shouldn't even say up downs.
There's been seasons where I'm going to whatever.
You know what I mean?
Like this last season.
I was just like, oh, new frontier.
This is going to be interesting.
And I was like, oh, this is weird.
100% like we're wrapped.
But seasons one and two in terms of Clem's story, we're awesome.
I'm excited to see where we're going to hang this all up and say it's the end.
Wolf Among Us Season 2 on everything.
You play the first season?
No, don't, I don't, I don't like Fable's, the comic.
And so I try.
I gave, I played through episode one because obviously I like telltale games.
I like the voice at cast.
I want to support friends and stuff.
But it was like, ooh.
And then season, episode two came of wolf and I started playing it.
And I did that thing of like, I went over to McCaffrey's review.
I'm like, how long is this?
And he's like, two hours or more than two.
I'm like, fuck this.
No, sorry.
I can't do it.
I never went back.
Interestingly.
And now this is strictly, I'm at the water cooler of the coffee with your good friend
Greg.
This might have already changed.
I don't know.
Someone hit me up.
I'm kind of funny games.
daily in the question box that I didn't put on the show because I didn't have time to look
into it and it's just rumor and speculation. But I guess on game scoop and this could just be
misspeaking as it happens all the time. We do it all the time too. They said that it was canceled.
And I was like, that's not something that's been announced. I don't think that's true.
They went out at such a big deal of when they like even before the layoffs tell tell was very much
like we're focusing, right? We're doing Batman. We're doing the final season of Clem and we're doing
Wolf Among Us too. But they said that.
which makes me think, oh, they just misspoke.
But it's possible they know something we don't or, you know, whatever.
But just put that under your hat or keep it there.
Toe Jam and Earl back in the groove.
Windows Switch, PS4, Xbox 1.
I guess there's fans out there.
Go for it, Toad Jam Minero.
I was never a Toadjam.
Guy.
No.
I was a Genesis kid, yeah, and I think I had Toad Jammer at one point, but I just remember
the commercial.
With To Jam and Earl, Genesis.
Genesis got to get Genesis.
Here we go, Greg.
Balkyria Chronicles for.
Mother fucking hell, yes.
Can you goddamn believe it?
No.
Can you fucking believe it?
It's back.
It's back to what it should be.
It's on PlayStation 4.
Fuck yes, fuck yes, fuck yes, fuck yes.
I still, I was telling you before break that I had that inkling of I should fucking play valcaria chronicles.
I haven't started it up yet, but the ember of that fire is still there.
Then I should get back to it.
But then also, I'm just full of shit all the time and talk about games I should play and I never do.
I don't even know what Kevin said.
What?
Roof is next up on Windows Switch
Xbox one.
What the fuck is Wargrove?
Didn't realize this was not a
Switch exclusive. Wargrove is the advanced
Wars game.
People did call you out though. The game that I was talking about that thing
wasn't an advanced worst clone as well. That's out now.
Well, but I knew the one of your time I was
Wargrove. Okay. So, I was right.
That's really all that matters.
Damn, 2018. Tim ain't taking your shit anymore. I didn't
taking any of shit. Look back at my injury.
I'm a changed man.
So now we get into Battlefield
18 and Call of Duty
2018. The rumors right now being
Bad Company 3 for Battlefields.
Okay. And Black Ops 4 for
Call of Duty.
That checks out, right?
Yeah. Because it was
this is always the hardest fucking part of this job.
I don't even play this thing. Black Ops is Trey Arc, right?
And so, yeah, Sledge was there
and Infinite, Sledge just did World War II.
And then Infinity War just did
the Infinity one. Call of Duty, Infinite Warfare.
So yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, you're going to stay in your wheelhouse.
So there you go for it.
I can't tell.
People will be happy.
can't tell you anything about Battlefield.
I don't know.
Yeah.
What that's going to be.
Bad company.
Good for them.
Never played them.
Yeah.
People like bad company, though.
I know that.
Yeah.
I think at one point they did, do they still?
I don't know.
It's all just runs together.
Let us know in the comments.
It all just runs together.
And then the last couple things are some questions, Greg.
Laying on me.
Telltale.
Besides the things we know about, do you think that they're working on anything else?
Or are they committing to her?
We should just focus right now.
I mean, I'm sure they're pre-pro on some, the next few things or ideas or
where they want to go, but I would think that no, they are.
Do you think we see anything, any new
announcements in 2018? Yeah, of course.
I think that's just how they work. You figure
what we're about, they just announced
the release date for episode four of Batman.
So they still have one more in the, in the chamber
for that. But once that's closed down,
you have people who can have mind
share to think about the next thing.
Walking Dead
has got to be coming at some point.
Another one? Oh, the final season.
Got it. Yeah. So when that starts,
you figure once it starts, they have what?
10 months of that game coming out, we'll say, if that, sometimes they're better than that.
Sometimes they aren't. And then whatever's going to happen with Wolf, but I feel like towards
the back half of that year, even maybe even a three, you've got to have your tease of what you're
doing next or how you're going to do it. And plus, I'm sure they, you figure right now,
knock on wood, they're all, so they're working on not the new engine, but using,
or what do they say in their press release when they scale back and lay people off that they were
going to like focus on using established tech rather than their own. I'm sure people are
learning that. Maybe you want to get together a cool trade.
or something. Maybe it is just Wolf and hey, this is what we're doing or using that.
Or maybe even Walking Dead. I don't know.
But it'll be interesting to see. They will announce something yes by the end of the year that, hey,
we have a new game or a new IP. Then there's Ubisoft. So the crew got delayed, Far Cry got
delayed. And one other Ubisoft franchise game, which has not yet been revealed has been moved
to fiscal year 2019, 2020. So what do you think that is? I don't know. I feel like we are due for
division. We are due to hear some division news. I think that that's, I love division.
the original obviously.
I think as a member
that subreddit community
watching people get turned around on it
to like where they are now
of how great it is
with the latest patch and stuff.
I feel like they're riding a wave
of a good thing
and goodwill.
And I just feel like they've learned a lot
and I feel like what
it would have been
2015 division came out, right?
Is that right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think we're due at least
to get a division two trailer
or something at E3 of like,
hey, we're doing the division again.
What's wrong?
You doubt in the 2015?
It must have been 2016.
Yeah, I mean, I planned it in 2017, but I felt like I had taken a lot of time long.
Yeah, I think it was, it was early 2016 that it came out.
Division, release date.
Oh, God damn, and not the patch release date.
March?
Yeah, March 8th, 2016.
You're correct.
Um, I feel like we're due for something on that.
Even if it is just, hey, here's the trailer.
We'll talk.
It'll be next year.
I feel like, and that could then be the one that's been delayed.
Yeah.
Interesting.
Yeah.
I mean,
I wanted to be Prince of Persia
because I want another Prince of Persia
really bad.
I just,
I don't know that we're ever
going to get it.
But with that type of franchise,
it's definitely been long enough.
And,
but Assassin's Creed is always eating into it,
right?
I get that.
But you jump at you.
Prince, Prince of Persia is a name, right?
Yeah.
That's something that Chrissy Tegan knows.
We got to give her what she wants.
And I want it too.
So that'd be really nice.
And when your interest line up
with Chrissy Tegan's interest,
you know you're in a good spot.
Yeah.
It's hot.
But that's hot.
What are they going to do this year?
Great question.
Do they have any three showcase this year?
Yeah.
I think they do.
I think Bethesda, I didn't think they'd have one this year.
And they proved me wrong and had a whole bunch of shit to me.
I think you talked to Pete about it and who speaks for them, obviously.
And I feel like they hold themselves in that regard of a Ubisoft, of a EA, you know, that they are here and they're not going to give up that spot.
And they've worked their way up the mountain to be viewed this way.
And they're going to do it.
what is there is a great question.
That's a big question.
I mean, I feel like going into last year,
the question of will they or won't they do it,
really came down to,
well, there's nothing huge.
There's no fallout.
Like, there's no big, giant thing
that we don't already know.
Right.
So it was just a lot of things we already knew
with maybe a little bit more information here or there.
Now, all those games are out.
So it's all playing slate.
Like, there's not really any announcements.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
The only Bethesda games that we're waiting on now
is Wolfenstein on Switch.
Right.
Because they just did Skyrim everywhere.
Right.
But then that's the question, right?
All the big ones came out.
You know, are they?
Is it Elder Scroll six time?
Yeah.
Is it time to just drop a, again, a trailer for that,
a first look at that.
What has that team been doing?
You know what I mean?
What's Todd Howard got up his sleeve?
But again, fall at four was a big game.
Like I think a lot of, you know,
it takes a lot of time to do those to work on those.
The fact they haven't been more rumors of what's happening.
Usually that's how we out here about this stuff.
Yeah.
I feel, though,
and not in a human.
sense. I think that Bethesda feels that's, that's their, that Sunday night is their night now,
and they don't want to give that up. And I don't think they'd force it. So I think that they do have
things we just don't know about. And it could be maybe a more low key thing. Right. And I mean,
those are the kind of things of, you, if you can piece it together, right? If what if it would be,
okay, so it's doomed to, a teaser trailer for whatever the next dollar scrolls is. Um, and even we've,
they've talked about before we've talked about on this show, right?
moral wind or whatever, right?
Like doing some kind of special edition of that or whatever.
Um, or remaster, I should say.
Uh, whatever happens, whatever mobile thing they're doing.
Uh, the latest update to Elder Scrolls online.
I'm sure they're going to have some big expansion pass there.
Right.
Like there'd be all this different stuff.
Um, I think there, you know, is marketing messaging, obviously at the game warrants,
but like, hey, we're the single player guys.
Single player gaming isn't dead.
I think they don't want to lose that either.
I think so even with doom, even with a giant open world RPG teas, something else
in that vein, something else.
That's a prey like game.
Yeah.
Not, not prey.
Yeah, yeah, okay, okay.
Yeah, but something like that.
Yeah, yeah.
I think, I think they will.
I think it'll be quality of a quantity.
It'll probably be shorter,
not as many titles,
but I think they'd be there.
I think they'll do something.
Hmm.
Rock steady.
What the fuck are you people doing over there?
Rocks to be.
They're having milestone lunches.
They try to tell me it's every Friday
or whatever of the month.
I don't believe it.
Them in retro are the two that I'm like,
I'm shocked we haven't heard.
anything from them.
Yeah.
It's crazy.
And I understand that with retro,
there is a lot of hull of blue
of the switch over from Wii U
and switch and all that.
But it's Rock City is the one
when I'm like, man,
it's been years now since Arkhamite.
We haven't even heard what's next.
Yeah.
So they were working on the VR,
they did the VR thing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But even that, I don't think
it was the full team probably.
Yeah.
It's somewhat annoying,
but then also so awesome
and fascinating and interesting.
and I really feel that they're going to come at us with something not completely different.
I wouldn't be surprised like we've said before.
The rumors are always that it's going to be that weird Damien Wayne Batman game or whatever.
I hope it's not.
I hope maybe this is a sign of them being like,
yeah, it's not the right direction, ball it up and start over and do something different.
But I hope they come at us with something that isn't Batman, but is DC or as Teenage Mutanty Turtles
or whatever franchise that needs a great video game.
And it is, look at the world we fleshed out and all the Easter eggs and all the
love because when you play those games, that's what it's all about, right? All the love for it
in those games. Do you think it's E3? I think it's E3. I'd hope it's E3, but geez, I don't know.
I think it's E3 and I think it's on one of the big two stages. Here's the thing that's interesting
about it. And Greg said this with just rough. WB is never afraid to make an event out of GDC.
often when I saw Arkham night for the first time it was GDC and I think that was when they were announcing it or it had just announced it like the game before recover happened and happened so it could be another one of those where hey GDC's coming up let's get an appointment go there and Rock City comes out and shows you something and then there's a bigger reveal at E3 I think that in the past it seemed like WB likes using GDC in that way because I think that's where they showed no no injustice was judge this week the first time I ever saw injustice but they use GDC and interesting but I again that's already that's already
I'm recalling.
So it's not like it.
They don't need to sell you as hard on that.
I think it's debuted at E3 on either Sony or Microsoft stage.
I hope so.
That'd be awesome.
And then the final thing I have is Borderlands 3.
Is that happened in 2018?
Happened as in released?
No.
Happened as in, hey, we've been working on Borderlands 3.
Let's take a look.
Yes.
I think you'll get that.
Because how long we had just left IG and we were still at IG when they put out that thing of like,
we want you on the team.
We're working on Borderlands 3.
You'd imagine they've come far enough in that time
that they have something.
They are ready to show in some.
I mean,
I'm kind of shocked.
It's not ready to go in 2018.
If that's the case.
Sure.
But I think when you're out there looking for a team like they said they were,
it makes me think you're trying to fill a lot of gaps.
And I know there's been turnover of gearbox.
It's not in a bad way,
but just in the normal way where it's like,
yeah,
like Anthony Birch is still there and stuff like that.
They lost Andrew Goldfarb,
who I really think was the glue to all these,
bringing it all together.
All these gearbox games.
But yeah, I think we see it.
I don't think it's released.
Hmm. Okay.
Because that strikes me as a good, I'm sorry, I'm going to keep talking.
That strikes me as a good spring game.
Like if that was coming out like right now, even our next month, you'd be like,
fuck me and Kevin and you are we're playing borderlands.
Whereas if it's like, hey, we're announcing it right around E3 and them trying to put it on
the fall, it's going to be like, well, no, I want to play a million other things.
There's a lot of other stuff going on.
Ladies and gentlemen, this has been kind of funny games cast.
Let us know in the comments below what Microsoft games we missed.
what third party games we miss next week we will be doing Nintendo and then the predictions
will be behind us as we move forward into the year of 2018 thank you very much for joining us
it's been a lovely ride until next week I love you I love you
