Kinda Funny Gamescast: Video Game Podcast - 2024 Video Games Predictions - Kinda Funny Gamescast

Episode Date: August 9, 2023

We go through every announced game in 2024 and try to predict what the rest of the year will shake out to be. Time Stamps - 00:00:00 - Start 00:02:48 - Housekeeping 00:04:11 - Will Anything Else Leak into 2024? 00:11:53 - What Showcases are left this year? 00:31:11 - How Crazy Will 2024 Actually Be? 01:13:32 - GOTY 2024 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I just met Carlyke in Balders Gay 3. Mm-hmm. Everything's great right now. Everything's looking up. Everything's awesome. It can only go great. It can only go better for. Squirrels to here.

From squirrels to hear. I met Carlach. I'm proud of you. Thank you. Really proud of you. Well, we beheaded her in our play-through that we now reset. You should have. Stop resetting everything you play.

You got to play the role. No, but the role is being played by two of the fucking idiots I'm playing with that are just doing random shit. And they should live with the consequences for what they did. I wish you heard me my reaction when Mike told me that in the office because, like, it was gutterol. Like, wait, you did what now? You did what the Carleck?

Yeah. We just felt like garbage the rest of the day. But Mike's asking like, look, Roger wants to keep it. And he doesn't want to keep it. It's like, Mike, you don't want to keep it either. You told me several times. We got to roll the dice. We got to figure out.

We got to settle this with the dice. Are you going to get a crudelode many times for a bunch of different reasons as well. We're also joined today by the big daddy in a collared shirt. Greg Miller. I didn't realize it was blue. I like it even more than I thought it originally. It's a great collar shirt. Jendi good on this one.

This was good. The air of a collar shirt, Greg Miller. Nah, she's bottom all. Sowed it together. Yeah. And round it out of the group today, we have the Texas Street Latino heat. Clicking heads and ripping them to shreds. The globe trotting, headshot, a rootin, a tootin, a nitro rifle from Twitch.

Dot TV, Andy Cortez. Oh, what's him. Are you talking about what you're doing next week? Going home? Yes. I'm going home. I'm coming home. Yeah, I'm going to go.

You're excited for this? Yeah, going back home just to go visit the fan. RGB? Are you planning to play games? We're not supposed to play games. I will be playing games, because we might have some cool games. I'm taking down the laptop,

taking it down the steam deck. I'll be playing all over the damn place. Don't care what the authorities tell me. Hell, yeah, I appreciate that. The mayor of the RVV is going to be like, Andy, we've told you. We've talked to you about this. I have the key to it. Yeah, yeah. Of course, this is the kind of funny games cast.

The last couple weeks, we've been talking a lot about reviews, about previews of some of the biggest games coming out. But Bless and I started talking on games daily about 2024. which feels so far away, but it's just around the corner at this point. We're in the second half of, well into the second half of 2023 at this point. It's been a banger year so far. But we're talking about the lack of known quantities when it comes to 2024. We got a couple release dates that are the actual dated games,

some of them delayed games that we should have had this year already. But then otherwise, well, a ton of stuff from devolver, exactly. Otherwise, we just have a bunch of games that, like, don't really have a date, but we assume we're going to be next year. I kind of want to get a temperature check on our hype for 2024. And more than that, what we think it's going to end up being. All right? So it'll be a fun topic of the show day here on the Kind of Funny Games cast.

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and Logan Delaney for supporting us. The Lately brothers. Got to love it. And because of their support, they won't have to hear our ads later for Shady Race in Liquid Ivy, but everybody else will. But enough about that. I want to start this off, not even looking at

2024, but looking at 2023. We got some big hitters left, Armored Corps 6, Spider-Man 2, Starfield, Mario Wonder, Mortal Kombat 9, the list goes on and on. Alan Wake 2. Any others that I'm missing that are immediate, big, big, big ones?

Lise of P. Yeah, do you say Mortal Kombat already? I did. Yeah. So yeah, we got, there's a lot there, right? There's a whole lot there. Between those big, big, big ones, and then Assassin's Creed, we've got Call of Duty, modern warfare, three, with all this, do we think there's going to be any major delays

in the 2024? Does anybody back out? Does anyone go like, you know what? We're not playing chicken on this one. Too rich for my blood. I don't think so. I think everything, it feels like everything's kind of set for the rest of the year. I feel like developers are maybe at a point in development where they definitely have.

have a better feeling of what to expect from how quick, maybe work gets submitted and stuff like that. I feel like people are in a more comfortable spot and they've been dealing with the remote work and things like that for several years now. So I feel like everything is pretty set. Now, you know, you're going to rub my face and crow or what's the same? You'll eat crow. Eat crow.

Eat crow. Really? Yeah. Yeah. I probably eat crow very, very soon. But even then. To your point, Andy, of them being like, Like they got it done.

That doesn't necessarily mean that they need to release it. It might be a timing thing of like not wanting to bear it. Do you think that there's a chance of that, bless? Timing, I mean, when I look at the slate, right, I go to go to Kondofunny.com's calendar, check out Blessing Superfund game release calendar. Though the games that are stacked on top of each other feel like games that almost don't want to move at this point. You know, we got a heavy late October with both Spider-Man 2 and Super Mario Brothers Wonder,

both coming out on October 20th. Both those games are exclusives on different platforms. They're really big games coming to those platforms, but I think it's fine in those games releasing on the same day. A few days before that, you have Allen Wake 2. I think if that would have moved out the way of Spider-Man, it would have done so already. I feel like that's an announcement they could have already made for the last few months,

and so I don't have a doubt that that's probably going to hit. Lords of the Fallen is one that I could see shifting around. That's slated right now for October 13th, the day after Assassin's Creed Mirage in a week before those other games. But again, like, right now, if your plan is to come out in 2023 you already have a date, if you're going to shift somewhere, you're going to shift out of 20203.

And for these games where I think, I think we're claiming that space. Like I don't see those games moving. The ones that come to mind, if you ask what games could shift into a 2024, hell divers comes to mind for a game that doesn't have a date yet. October seemed to be the rumor.

That was something that leaked in quote unquote. And that's the, that comes back to the October thing of, do you want to put out a game in October right now? A game like? That game like Sonic. Oh, Sonic superstars. Where's that going to go?

You know, the rumors or like the kind of leaked stuff that is potentially totally just placeholder Amazon stuff seems to put it around Alan Wake and Mario Wonder, which like, to your point about Spider-Man and Mario, not necessarily competing with each other. Mario and Sonic, I think, a bit more wonder-to-one there. And Sonic, Sonic has a history of releasing in November, so I could see them internally going, let's not do October. Let's just do November because that's normal for us. also I could see it coming out in early next year. I think that's a game that might be more shiftable than other games. I then look at games like Coon. I don't think Coon has a release slate.

I thought it didn't. Did it? Does it? Maybe it does, and I'm wrong about that. I'm looking at the, I need to update my calendar still. But that, and then Ghost Runner 2 is another one. Ghost Rider 2 is supposed to come out in 20. Cuckoon is September 29th now.

Oh, really? Yeah. All right then? I think they did that in. It's Anna Perner, right? Yes. They did that in their showcase that we reacted to. Gotcha.

The other one. I was talking about one that could slide. Sorry. Oh, I was going to say the other one is Ghostrunner, too, that I could see sliding out of the year. I could see Avatar sliding out. Oh, interesting. Frontiers of Pandora.

I'm also looking to Blessing Superfund calendar. Avail what kind of funny.com slash calendar, even though it's out of date and blessing is up. Very out of date. December 7th is what that's listed as. I could see, I mean, I know I could be wrong.

It happens once in a blue moon, but I feel like there's no hype for that game yet. Now, granted, we're still quite a ways out, and there are so many great games to get through before then, but I feel like, I could definitely see that game needing more time. And I could also see Ubisoft being like,

yo, this isn't it. Like, we're not, we're not going to match up well against everything that's come out this year. Why not kick it to January and try to live in that time period that we all like playing the experimental games? That is a really good point. But to that point, though, December, I would say typically a slow month, right?

Like for game releases? But like, what's the reason for that? Is it that people are just playing so many of the November games? Because I feel like the December slot is almost the put it out to die slot. Like we even saw it with like last guardian. Like I'll never fully understand why they put last guardian out. First week in December. They did it last year or not last year.

The final fantasy. The crisis core. Yeah. And that being a different situation, it being a port of a PSP game. Like I feel like they weren't giving it that full push. And that kind of was just like, hey, let's just get it here.

To me that read more as like a let's hit certain quarters with certain dollar signs type thing. Sure. My counter argument is my own thing of that being delayed is I would say, you know, South Park. I remember stick of truth. or the other one, fractured by hole, but I dropped in a December time period just like this.

Did it do well, though? Well enough. It's hard to think of December games. When was pentament? Maybe I'm mixing up it with another one, because I feel like a pentament kind of game came out in December-ish, and like, was a surprise.

Oh, maybe I'm thinking of high on life. High on life is what I'm thinking of. Right? And how on life was a decent video game, right? Yeah, but I mean, the call out here, which is true from Cameron Kennedy because after Christmas gifts are bought. That was always the thing when I was starting at IGN.

It was that run up to Black Friday. Every game had to happen. So you had October and November be insane from reviews because people were trying to be on shelves. Something for high on life isn't worried about shelf life, right? That's where it's something like Avatar, I do think, is, right? Whereas something like Avatar, I do think, is people are in the store to buy stuff and this is a big brand. Why would you want to put it out after that? Sports story also came out in December.

Another digital one right. And maybe it's also the thing of just you don't want to spend December working, right? Like, are we going to put out a game mid-December to then spend our holiday doing updates, like being away from our families doing all that. Fixing bugs. Yeah, fixing bugs. And I think, yeah, you're missing that. You're missing that Black Friday slate where, you know, not all the games are going to get deals on Black Friday, but people are in stores on Black Friday. And so if you can be on the shelf alongside a bunch of other things that are getting deals, maybe you also then get copies out the door that way, too.

So I think missing just November, it's like, well, I might as well just wait until January at this point. Yeah. Yeah, I'm with that. Avatar. I can see it. I can see it sliding. I can see it doing better in our early. For sure.

Because do you have any final thoughts on this? Anybody about 2023 games getting delayed? No, I mean, I think that Greg is pretty dead on with the idea that Avatar could. My only thing with Avatar is, and maybe this doesn't matter because we're so, we're right there already with December is do they want to start bumping up against Star Wars outlaws in the next year? Because that is going to be the big UEE soft focus when you're talking about the big IP. Bumping up. Come on. There's so much time before that'll happen.

I mean, probably, yeah. I don't expect Star Wars outlaws before, let's say, maybe fall. September earliest, I would say. Yeah, so if you're able to get Avatar out in January or whatever, then you're good. But then we're talking about the only big UESoft release, big quote unquote, this year being Avatar or not Avatar, Assassin's Creed Mirage. That might be a problem, but also in their fiscal year, maybe that's not a problem depending on how their fiscal year goes. Who knows between now and there might be like five more Assassin's Creed games coming out. That's true.

That's true. Great point. Gold and bones at some point. All right. So moving on to 2024, it's interesting because the only two games with dates right now and let us know in the comments if we're wrong about this. But according to the game informant calendar. Yeah.

The only two we got, Prince of Persia, the Lost Crown coming to essentially everything on January 18th. And then suicide squad killed this Justice League coming at PS5, Xbox series X and S and PC February 2nd. And that's it. Those are the only two dated games. Greg. And one of those feels like iffy. Yeah, I believe suicide squad. February. Is this read weird to you? Like being in the industry as long as you have,

now we are in August. I know the world was thrown into disarray in 2020. And to Andy's point, like people have gotten better about the remote work and figuring out this new landscape. But I feel like 2023 is the example of the all of that paying off and getting the back to back to back releases that were kind of built up over the years. Are we about to get a drought in a way that feels unfamiliar to us? No. I don't think you have a drought. I think you'll have a more normal year. This year has been ridiculous in terms of not even the amount of games, not even the quality of games, the game of the year contenders back to back month to month. Like, there's always something that is stealing all the headlines and is something you should be

playing. Are you playing this? Why aren't you playing this while I'm playing this? Oh my God, Bob, I'm still playing that. Like, it's been an insane year to your point of catching up to COVID, catching up to delays, catching up to everything that got thrown off track. I think is it weird that we don't have more release dates? No. I think the industry's learned a lot. lesson in terms of announcing release dates. They're like, you know, let's really be sure we're going to announce. And even when you're really sure you announce in delay and something happens, right? I think there's no reason to get that far out.

I think there's only so much oxygen in a hype cycle that I think 2024's hype cycle really kicks off with game wards. I think Jeff will be the first shot, the opening salvo of what's going on in 2024 to get more of these games confirmed. I know we're about to jump in this list. But like, you know, what is going on Wolverine? Is that a 2024 game? Is it not? that'd be a huge, you know, boon for Insomniac to release, what you assume will be a game of the year contender,

or at least a favorable release, a contender, in October, and then follow it up in December with a game awards. Hey, by the way, yep, Wolverine is coming or something to that effect. I feel like you can only spread yourself so thin, and there's so much going on right now that it's foolish, unless you're doing something like Devolver did, of saying, yeah, these games are getting delayed, let's make a joke out of it and stick with that and push it.

There's no sense. saying, hey, this game you're really looking forward to next year. It's coming out next year because there's still so many games look forward to this year. There's a big omission from this to be announced. And that's Shadow of the Yurtree, Eldon Ring DLC. Because everybody knows from Software's DLCs are pretty much just a whole other game that you're going to spend countless hours in.

Can I just, can I just describe to you what Baldur's Gate 3 is to me? Sure. It really is like full-time job. I'm busy, busy dude, right? Yeah, busy looking at my cans of chili in my room. Like, I've got a lot of stuff going on. Yeah. And then suddenly, Balders Gate popping up in my life is like,

somebody showing up my phone door and be like, hey, you have a kid, by the way. You got to take care. And I'm like, oh, fuck. Like, on top of everything else, on top of all the other games that I'm either super into or want to get back to, like, Balders Gate just fucking punch, sucker punch me from behind. And suddenly I have to deal with this. incredible game.

And this child, this stupid child. So it's such a large child. It is massive. And I, like, it's a great feeling to have a game like this and to feel this way about a game again in terms of like this sort of classic RPG. But, like, man, I was really, really into Remnant 2 and that's gone. And, like, all these games that just kind of just came out are just completely in the back of my mind because this is all I can think about. about right now, this stupid child. Yeah.

It's so large. It's so large. It's big kid. It's a big kid. But yeah, so going to Greg's point about game awards kind of being the launch point of we'll probably get a lot of answers there about the next year. I feel like that's kind of been tradition the last couple years at least of game awards really kind of both putting a nice little bow on the year with the awards, but then also the

announcements being here's what the next year kind of looks like. But we still do have, as of recording now, it's August 8th. We have a couple known quantities of showcases and potential. We know we have Gamescom opening night live with Keely. We have potential a Nintendo direct potential PlayStation showcase. I'm kind of doubting we get another Xbox one at this point with how they have kind of like played their card so far this year. Do any of you think we're going to get any major 2024 talk at Gamescom? Oh, at Gamescom?

I'll think so When you say it's major Is relative I think major for what opening night Live is I think we're going to get one or two things That are you know the last couple of games comms I have closed with oh here's Saints Row Or here's a

Hose the other one that wasn't Saints Row Like I feel like that Dead Island right Oh Dead Island too yeah Dead Island too is the exact thing I'm thinking of I feel like we get stuff of that oak Now is that the stuff that's going to dominate 2024 no but I I think we get stamps of

Oh this is actually coming out I think we get a couple of those. Help me out here. Dead Island, too. If it was like, talks about it, Gamescom, which was like August.

When did it come out? Was that this year? Yeah, February, I believe. Okay. All right. Yeah, might have been March.

Hmm. Hmm. What do you think? Gamescom. Yeah. I could see it to what you're talking about of yes, here's what a,

uh, a on brand caliber, tech land, right, or, uh, volition or here's what a Konami thing is going to be. Here's what,

you know what, you know what I mean? I don't think you're going to see a PlayStation and Xbox, Nintendo, come out with this big thing because they are all, Xbox is still going to be telling you about Starfield, PlayStation is still going to be telling you about Spider-Man 2, Nintendo's still telling you about Mario, right?

I feel like they have battle plans for 2024 that they don't want to get in the way of because they sell so much to do this year. So one thing all throughout there for Major is stalker too. That was a game that got delayed with everything that's been going on in that country. And, like, Xbox has announced their biggest ever showing, happening or their biggest ever gamescom showing right their biggest ever booth and stalker two is one of the

things that's slated to show up there i could see them maybe putting down a date for that there i think that'll be big for especially for what gamescom is because i don't i don't see a big PlayStation first party thing happening at gamescom i don't see a big Xbox thing aside from like a stocker to or even like when you say konami or kojima right i think of like a podcast because that's what happened last time with you. Gamescom is kind of a weird one for the caliber of announcement, but Stocker to you, especially that being a European-centric thing,

that seems right. That seems like all the cards line up for that getting a date there. And I feel like that date being a January-February could really serve that game well, right? Do you think we see any other, because I'm kind of a blessed where I think of gamescom is a good place to kind of showcase you mentioning it being a European sort of centric

studio, the stalker devs. I feel the same way about like, would we see anything from CD Project Red there or something like that? Like, what is Keely save? Is Keely in the mind of like saving stuff for game awards? Or is he like, no, maybe we should push stuff here

at Gamescom. I feel like Gamescom is such a weird middle ground that has games show up that like, of the largeness and hype level of like Saints Row 4. Like that's what Gamescom kind of reminds me of. you know. And I think that's on the high side of it, right?

Yeah. I imagine that Keeley is going to try to make summer game fest and game awards, the two tent pulls and then Gamescom being more of like a check-in, more in the style of an old school Paris Games Week, Tokyo. T.S. Right. Like that type of stuff where there will be announcements. Some of them have consequence,

but like don't necessarily expect like the biggest things to be announced here. But you might be surprised, but don't expect anything super cool. But outside of that, with where we're out right now Greg do you think we get a Nintendo direct or PlayStation showcase this fall you know me I don't

I can't speak to Nintendo I just don't follow it it's never been my beat like it would be with you I think anything's possible I say that for PlayStation as well right you would have more of an opinion on that so I think it's possible that you could I don't I mean I

it's also what would the caliber of that be I don't expect to hear about the Switch 2 this year I don't expect that really I don't expect them to do that at the end of the year here and do that. But why? I know it worked the opposite way for Switch 1. They did do that.

Your reaction would tell me you do expect it. I mean, it's not that I expect it as much as I don't not expect it. Like I feel like, I don't expect it. Really? Well, based on I would think of a Switch 2 is coming. It's coming later next year. And in the timeline, when we think about the Switch 1, right? The Switch came out March.

Yeah, March-ish. I think in March. and that announcement came in the fall of the October, yeah, right? October, and then we got the full big thing in like January February. And so I think that's a good cadence for it. If a Switch 2 is coming out fall next year,

I think it's way too early to start marketing this year. That's right. Yeah, and that's definitely a good point. I just don't know, I guess, yeah, fall would make sense. I'm looking at the slate that the Switch has. We still got to put out the Peach game. Yeah, there are still games coming, so it's like, but Nintendo also is not afraid to overlap in some way.

Yeah, that. So do we not expect some sort of Mario Wonder direct, like dedicated direct? Like the way we've seen, you know, Splatoon kind of take center stage and a lot of past ones. I think definitely. I just wouldn't expect any like other announcements to come from that necessarily, right? So yeah, I think because Mario Wonder's coming out in October,

it might be not the right place to announce the Switch to, but something in me tells me that it's going to be talked about this year. And I don't think it'll be a direct. I think it'll just be a. a tease, then they put out a commercially type thing, getting people similar to what they did last time. You'll see Vanessa on a roof playing with something. Yeah, exactly.

Back to PlayStation, right? Like, again, I know everybody wants to hold on to this hope that there's going to be a PlayStation showcase. Maybe I'm just pessimistic. I don't see it. I don't think of that would happen. PlayStation showcases are such a big deal for what they're going to do. And yes, I don't think they nailed the last one they did, but they had their marching orders and what they wanted to talk about.

and that was what they want to talk about. I do think a PlayStation state of play is entirely possible. I think you do that as a, hey, here is one final look at Spider-Man. Don't forget that's coming out. Here is Helldivers release date. And then as I was saying earlier today on the post show for Games Daily, right? Like here is a mid-to-major first-party tease and or third-party teas, like do that kind of thing.

It's a partnership with Capcom that is showing something that is finally announcing the next Monster Hunter right. Yeah. Maybe that's pushing that for 2024. Maybe it is just a cinematic trailer for a ghost two. But even that, I find so hard. I think you'd come back with one more state of play. I think you'd make Spider-Man the star of it at the very end,

and you'd team it up with a partnership Capcom announcement or something there that you're teasing on their front. I struggle with the PlayStation one a bit because it's hard to look directly at the past and find a pattern. But I remember us in that lead-in towards the end of the PS4 era. where we were looking down at the horizon god of war spider man days gone uh last of us two ghost kind of run god damn play cations incredible what do you think about it that way but that back to back to back to back to back i remember especially getting towards the end and covid happening delays

things moving but we couldn't believe that they were actually going to release last of us two and ghost that close together how are they going to market that how are they going to handle putting out uh marketing stuff for both games announcing other things and they're They just did. You know what I mean? I feel like all of us would have been like, there's no way they're going to do this. They're either going to delay something or like change stuff.

I'm looking at the October 20th release date of Spider-Man 2, and I'm like, they're going to want to stay away from that. Like they're not going to want to announce a bunch of new things around that. They're going to want to give it its moment. But in some ways, I feel like when you look at what they've done in recent times, that's backwards thinking.

Like it feels like they would double down on that and do a showcase being like, yeah, Spider-Man 2 is coming. It's going to be fucking awesome. And then there's this, this, this to look forward to. And it's also, I think it would show a lot of confidence knowing that, like, this IP is going to sell a buttload anyway. No matter what else we put in this showcase, it's not like people are going to forget about Spider-Man,

or, you know, is it more of like a hurt feeling? Like, no, we want to give you the limelight insomniac or, like, what sort of relationships do they have to deal with there? They're going to sell a shitload regardless of whatever they show on that showcase, because so many of those units that are going to be sold aren't watching these showcases. There's just people, it's, no, it's, it's Vanessa buying. She's, after she's playing on the roof with her switch, she's binded for her kids. She's buying Spine on her kid. I think right now it's also, for the Spider-Man PlayStation Showcase thing,

there's a case of they don't have to say anything right now. Like, it's not like people are waiting for them to take the stage. Like the podium's not empty. The podium is Spider-Man. And so when you don't have to say anything, why say anything? When you can wait until after Spider-Man comes out and then start to talk about what's coming up next. And that's where the PlayStation Showcase thing gets interesting. for if that happens this year versus a state of play versus nothing,

because Greg brought up a good point earlier today of, you can have something at Game Awards. The big thought I have for PlayStation is right now, I do think that they still have stuff to talk about next year. I don't think next year is just going to be conquered, Concord. And I think that's all we have announced for next year, right? And like, I would expect maybe a Wolverine to come through,

but they have to talk about something. And my question is, how do they talk about those things? And I think maybe a game awards, depending on what it is, I could see a PlayStation PlayStation showcase. They don't usually do big first-party stuff at state of play, at least if they have multiple first-party things to talk about.

We even saw last year, right before Summer Game Fest kickoff, where we had that state of play happening the week before, and we got Street Fighter, R-4 remake, all this cool stuff, and then they wouldn't until Jeff Keillis thing to talk about last of us, right? They didn't put last of us in that state of play. So if they have

first-party PlayStation Studios stuff to talk about, I think that would be a show case or it would have to be a game awards where we're getting that stuff. But we're going to get that stuff, I think, because we have to. Because there's nothing slated for next year. Yeah, you got to know what's going on eventually for PlayStation's next year. To Gray's point about potential collaboration or partnership in terms of promotion or announcing of a title, Monster Hunter.

At this point, where is the next Monster Hunter revealed? Could it be Gamescom? That seems a little bit weird. I feel like it's out of the traditional wheelhouse, but I feel like that's the type of game that I'm surprised has. been officially announced yet, especially with Capcom out there saying that by March there's going to be, it was March, right?

Oh, at the end of the fiscal year? Yeah, I think that's what they said. End of the fiscal year, which would be by the end of March, they have a multi-million selling game that they're confident in, which you've got to imagine it's Monster Hunger. If you're not, where is it getting announced? I'd love to see where Monster Hunter World was announced. I don't know. But for TGS, I would...

PlayStation E3. Yeah. I would say no to gamescom and I would go TGS if I had to pick an international show. right we all know how in love Japan is with Monster Hunter right and when that's broken through to the West finally in a really big way but it's still dwarfed by the fan base over there

so you could do it and get the pop there and have the you know announcement the kiosk or whatever you want to do for the photo op yeah I don't think you would I mean I think mainly not because there's not a TGS showcase exactly and so that's the where you shake down I would think no I don't think it would be opening at live I think keely would make sure to save that for game awards if that was the case. Yeah. But I also totally think it's,

if a PlayStation state of play was happening, I would see it there as well, right? Because it fits in exactly what I'm talking about. Here's your last look at Spider-Man. It's what we promote. We're also going to, you know, update you on the PlayStation Q's information. That's a release date.

Hell Divers, release day. Monster Hunter World in there, right? Monster Underworld 2 in there. And obviously some other little stuff, probably in India here or there. But I think that would make a lot of sense and still the compelling showcase that you're able to toss in and say,

Come for, you know, your last look at Spider-Man before launch and X, Y, and Z update on hardware. I hope it's TGS just because I like being like half asleep, like at 3.44 in the morning. Like, all right, I'm going to pass. Now I'm really going to go to sleep. I'm just like looking through, not Twitter, X, scrolling through X and seeing like, ah, cool. Kingdom Hearts 4.

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Not at all. Like, not even a little bit. But I hope that it does because I feel like that would be a great time. People getting back in them kind of staking their claim a little bit of like, Yo, it's our spot. If you were thinking to do in the sneaky little, like, first of the year thing, we already got this. But at the same time, I don't know that it's a big enough of a game.

Like it being a 2D game, I think, limits it. Obviously, I'm not saying that in terms of quality. I love them more than anything. I'm just saying in terms of, like, how people see it and perceive it. What do you guys think there? I think they know how much egg they have in their face for the last Prince of Persian, the remake and the announcements and the dates and yada, yeah. I think they're this, they hit this date.

I would think this game is probably all but done. It is just polishing and bug fixing and really making it sing because they want to make sure Prince of Persia is a franchise that matters to Ubisoft. It matters to fans. And so I think they do hit this. And I do think that it is the right move in terms of, hey, here is a 2D game that, you know, should appeal to more people than it will.

You know what I mean? So let's drop it in January and let's make a big deal out of it. And it's a returning IP and you get that. Man, I'm so over all the 2023 games. I'm excited for 2024. and you jump into this and hopefully are a wild buy it. Everything hurts great. You have to make the,

you have to make the fans who have lost faith over the years. You have to give them a reason to believe again. And based on what I've heard and what people have told me about their experiences with it and just like kind of watch it and the trailers and everything, it looks like it's the real deal. It looks like it's going to be a game of high quality. And yeah, like Greg has mentioned,

you need to make that name matter again in a way that isn't, just here's Sam Fisher in the sixth version of whatever mobile experience. Yeah, like make that IP like make that name mean something again, you know? Yeah. So then the other date we have February 2nd.

It feels like Groundhogs Day. Suicide squad. Kill the Justice League. Get in a new date. Do we believe it? No. Really? You think it gets pushed back? I don't think they, have they given us any reason to believe them on this? I mean, maybe they're just heads down and like, all right, look. And I think, again, like, the stuff we saw on that trailer that we didn't like, yeah, UI's part of it, but overall, it was just, I mean, they did a full on PlayStation

showcase or a state of play of PlayStation State of Play. Deep dive, here's how it works. And everybody was like, me, like, that's not, you can put your head down, but I don't think that's, if they're really truly, truly, truly. to fix it and find the fun in it and do all these different things, I think that is a Herculean effort. And I don't mean that they couldn't do it, but if

I'm a betting man, like they, I, I'm making bets on the show, being spicy. No, I don't buy February 2nd. Man. Do you buy any date at this point? Yes. I don't think that, I do not think that Warner Brothers in D.C. are going to be willing to say, let's cut

our losses on this. I think this, they do get to a point where they're like, All right, you've done all you can rock steady. And so maybe it could still be this. And maybe they fix it. I say that, you know, knowing how hard that would be. But I mean,

man, they really chose the wrong IP to do this game with. Because like, this looks awesome as shit to me. But it's the fact that this isn't what the Batman fans want. That is really a huge problem here. Like, so much of this looks like a freaking blast to me.

And I can't wait to play it. But I know that it's not what the people. people want. I mean, you're just watching it. It's the same. It's like one of the things you kind of forget the complaints. Like, oh, right. Yeah, everybody looks the same.

Call it crackdown four. How are they going to fix that? Call it. I believe this release date just for the fact that this game has been gestating for so long and delays are expensive, right? To take this game from this last spring all the way up until February 2nd, that costs a lot of money for them. And at some point, I think you do just got to be a lot of money.

to go, hey, let's put this out because the more and more we sit on it and work on it, the more and more money we're spending on it. And when the complaints that people have about it, yeah, when the complaints that people have about are about the core aspects of the game. It's like, how much are you really fixing? You know, I'll think that maybe right now what they might be doing is working on content that way. They can back up what they have in this game with the drops that they were maybe saving

to put out over the year. Hey, let's have that stuff up front and like give people content that they can, you know, play with and like have a lot of fun and start with a start off with a really strong foot right like i think that might be what they're doing what they're doing now but it has to come out like i i don't think they can sit on it so much of 100% but i just want to call it before we bear you pick it up but i just watching this makes me so angry just by how apathetic i am watching them fuck on my my my question with the like it ever coming out is also paired with the the rumors that we've heard multiple times that WB has been trying to sell game studios.

And so, like, I just wonder what the chances are. Maybe before we even hear of another delay of this game of, like, WB just trying to sell off Rock City and WB Montreal and any other, like, game studio, which would I think then get to the point of like, yeah, this game then never sees the light of day, you know? Yeah. I mean, that would be because, I mean, shutting the studios down. I feel like that even then, like, it's too.

far in. It's not like the back girl Well, I'm not saying shutting the studios down. I'm saying like selling them off to other places and yes, delays are expensive but I wonder like high end business people are wondering yeah, this is expensive but maybe this can pay off

if we can just fucking sell these studios and not have to fucking pay anymore for the production of this thing because at this point do we even, especially with the reaction to this trailer and the kind of middling reaction, do we even think this even nearly makes up the production cost of this

rather than just selling this studio with this name that is revered that we have put into the dirt and just hope we can make our money back that way. Yeah, I feel like even with that, you still got to sell this game. Like, I feel like the game still needs to come out because it's too far in.

Like, what, off the top of our heads? Like, what is the latest game has been canceled? Right? InBA game from EA. Yeah. Yeah, we had review copies at IGN. And then they're like, you know what? We're not putting the time.

That is crazy. But like this game, I mean, with that, right? Like, you're talking about a game with probably a couple of year development cycle. If that, like, maybe your development cycle. Nine months, usually for a sports gamer. Yeah, exactly. This is a game that I, we're hearing rumors about since, what, 2016, 2017. So this is always back to the fact that this is a business and this isn't art for art's sake.

At some bean counter at WB is like going to be like, it just doesn't matter. Put it out. Yeah. We don't give a shit about Rocksteady's reputation. if we cancel the game that would all like no we don't give a flying fuck about that they made the Batman Arkham games they can still if we wanted to sell

this studio we can still get as much as we want for it because people know what the name is and what the talent is this won't take away from it man it's so interesting maybe maybe maybe maybe maybe maybe in the farthest reaches of reality James Gunn I guess could be like

no we're not putting up bad DC games because of everything I've been trying to do so we're but I mean like again let's get back the bean counters and the contracts and the agreement and everything. Yeah, it just doesn't work that way. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's just like, that's just not it where it's like, back girl was able to be canceled for one very specific reason.

And that was a stream only movie and the tax draft shit works that way because of how that move, or yeah, that movie was going to make money. Games don't work that way. Movies or theatrical releases don't work that way. So even though James wouldn't be able to make that decision. February, yeah, I know what you're saying. I know you're not a kind of argument. Yeah.

February 2nd here, Suicide Squad. Let's. When do we find out it moves? Do we hear about this game this year? Does it show up at Gamescomer game awards or? No, God, no. Do we find out it moves on a random weekend during the holiday season? I think what you'll find out it would move in January.

I think you'd come back and you'd get the old rock steady text on a JPEG. Hey, we need even more time bat fans or whatever. We're still working on it and push it out further. The Joker came and messed up our plans. We got it. I don't, and I, because you can't see this game again until they're like, we are good to go. And I don't think that you, I don't, I don't think. Like, what constitutes get to go in the scenario?

That's my thing is like, it's not the way the game runs. It's not the way the game. It's not. It looks interesting until it looks good. Yeah, I guess. Like, I think, I don't think it'll ever get to that point. That's my thing is. I don't think it'll ever get that point.

And like, it's going to be what it is. I think what happens is that at game wards, yeah, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, say at game awards you get a trailer and they find something that looks cool about it or like a cut scene or something to try and sell it and they're like hey it's coming out February 2nd and it comes out and it does what it does like I don't hear about this game this year that's my thing no no nothing in there we'll see I think it comes out February 2nd do we hear anything more about it this year I'm not sure but I think it does hit the date I don't think it's going to be good um but then moving on just to on an anthem nights yeah yeah came out it happened yeah it lived Lovita loka everybody So here we are, two dates in 2024. Otherwise, it's just a bunch of TBA. So I have two lists here, right? The first, the long list I have here for Tim is the TB announced games that have said 2024 that don't have any specific date. And then I have another one that is just not announced for 2024, but could be.

Let's start there. Yeah. I feel like that's the more fun one, right? Let's go. Do we think Wolverine is going to hit 2024? Greg. I'm going to say no. I want to be, I don't want to be pessimistic.

I'd love it. I think it would be incredible. I hope beyond hope. I love insomniac. I think they're so talented. I think it'd be a great one two punch. I think they'll put a year in between them. I think it's just like, again,

for just getting the teaser trailer at reveal and that really being all there's been on it, I just feel like it's probably further out than I want it to be. So I'll say 2025 on it. I'm going to say yes, we get it in 2024, because I see them also wanting to do some sort of DLC for Spider-Man 2, and I don't really know how you structure the timing if you push out, like, what takes priority there? Like, I don't know.

I think it hits 2024 and then, like, early 2025, maybe you see some sort of DLC for Spider-Man 2. Wow. Oh, interesting. Okay. What if the DLC for Spider-Man 2 led into Wolverine? this fucking guy your glams

dude good old patron that you haven't seen you my other question there would be like do you really believe they'll be Spider-Man 2 DLC

because I feel like it would have been announced so far if you're buying the ultimate edition you get the season pass and I think they found so much success

with Miles Morales that I would imagine that hey we want to tell more stuff that would have been DLC well let's put it into its own

standalone game we can charge more for not even in the grubby sense. Yeah. I mean, I'm always so surprised that I brought this up on a couple shows ago. But like, I'm surprised at how little we talk about the Spider-Man DLC happening because there

was a lot of it. And I know it wasn't everyone's favorite parts of the game necessarily. But like, there was story beats there. There were major characters used. Like, Miles was a part of that before the Miles Morales game. And I, I'm shocked at how hard Insomniac went on that stuff. And, like, how there was three of them, right? And like, three chapters.

Three chapters. How much, like, not candidates? feels is that where you're going for? But it is though, right? No, but no, definitely is. But I have the same feeling about it as you do. We're like, I feel like it came out and... It's lesser than.

It's definitely less. It feels lesser than, even though it's not. And I don't think it's Somniac likes that. The feeling and the read on it. So I would imagine why not save these ideas and things we would have wanted to do for a DLC or the cutting room floor for Spider-Man 2 to be an interstitial between Spider-Man 2 and Spider-Man 3, whatever it is. Maybe the next one is Spider-Man, Venom.

And depending how it all ends for Venom and you play is Venom, right? or something like that. Yeah, I wonder if they look at the DLC as a success. Because I do think compared to the actual base game, the DLC wasn't received as hotly as that game. And so I think you are talking about, hey, let's just put this thing out as its own thing and do what they did with Miles Brown.

I mean, you definitely look at it, right? I mean, they have the stats on how many people played, but how many people played the DLC? You know what I mean? Not nearly as many has played mild morale, so I'd venture to guess. And on top of that, yeah, like, it does feel non-can in so many ways.

Because, yeah, all right, hammerheads in there and a bunch of stuff happens with the URI and Black Cat. And it's like there was cool story threads in there. But again, for the world, we, they've built like Miles Morales didn't really call back to any of that in an important way. And Will Spider-Man 2, who knows, but I, I, it definitely feels like a single player game strategy from a different time. Yeah. It just doesn't feel like where we're at anymore. I want to, I want to say personal.

Yeah, for Wolverine happening next year. Just because if not Wolverine, then what? As PlayStation, like, what are you putting out next year? Is it just Concord? I don't think it is. And so if it's not, like, I don't, I don't think Bend is ready. I don't think Ghost Cheetah 2 is ready. There's so, like, we go through the Rolodex of PlayStation Studios games,

and so many of those, I'm like, well, that can't happen next year. Wolverine is the only one that I think conceivably could happen on that PlayStation Studio scale. And PlayStation doesn't miss a beat, right? Like when it comes to putting out at least two or three first party games in a year. And so Blue Point puts out Bloodborn 2. We know that. Well, I mean, it is interesting, right?

Like, is Wolverine past Spider-Man 2? is Wolverine the only major Sony first party game that we know of. That's raining two. Oh, it's starting to. Yeah. Single player, I guess. Like a single player one. Factions, I feel like is a little bit in between, like, because of the. Single player, I think it is just death raining too.

Yeah. Which, yeah, cool. That's, that is one. All right. Moving on. What about Assassin's Creed red? This is the Japan one? Remind me which one is the Japan one.

This is the one that I believe recently got a rumor on KFGD and talking about it coming out next year. I feel like, like it makes sense time wise right like with uh not vikings what was it called the hall hall right and what that was 2020 or 2021 wasn't that a launch with the console game so 2020 fuck yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah then for sure and i believe the rumor and everything else i also hope for it like i'm totally in the mood for a another assassin's creed RPG especially one set in japan that sounds like great time this ghost won't do anything when you guys do something jin saki we'll hear about Assassin's Creed bless, what is it called?

Infinity. Infinite. Never. Which is apparently the thing that Assassin's Creed read and Jade or not Jade, Hexie will be hosted on. Enough. There's enough with all of it. Enough.

Thank you. Somebody else says. Stop all of it. Enough. God. Next time we have fair games with the dollar sign as an S. This is the Jade Raymond. Yeah.

Hayden Studios. It's like they're, I know you're just reading it out, you've never sounded older in your life. Like, you were just saying what needed to be said. Fair games with the dollar sign of CS. I was saying to point out stupid it was, but I just thought it made me sound stupid.

I'll take this out. This is the heist game. Yeah. Now, is it PVP or PVE? PVEBP? I don't know. I think it's a PVP extraction shooter heist game. No, there's no extraction shooting

this one. That's the other person. They announced all these games in the same conference and now we have to conflate all of them together. I thought this was an extraction shooter. It's a heist. You got to get out with the money and peace out. I think marathon is the extraction shooter. I think they're both. Introducing fair games a competitive heist experience coming to PS5 and PC. Is there even E in this one? Is it just PVP? He's just talking about making a new idea. Oh, they changed the dollar hand to a Z. Okay. Fair games came out of the desire to create a new type of PVP game with emergent sandbox play.

We want to deliver a fresh multiplayer experience that rewards creativity and mastery and delivers surprising stories each and every time you play. I think if you're extracting money out of a safe and are trying to get out. That's not extra. You don't try to grassy straw. You're extracting. You're just extracted some shit. But I feel like extraction shooters have some level of E.

And from what I'm hearing, this is just PVP. and so you're just you're heisting on your opponents. M nailed it. Are we about to be doing this in 2024? Seems hard to believe, right? Yeah. I think it's a little hard to believe. I mean, like, here's the thing.

I don't think so, concept sounds so overwhelming that no, I don't know. I could see that coming out in 2024. Sure. I don't know. I totally see it coming out in the same way that we saw Arcade of Gettin and Destruction All Stars and all the games like that It just kind of came out and went.

It's better than those, though. You would hope. I feel like it's being presented on a different level than those. For sure. For sure. I mean, I feel like they're, yeah. I feel like they all look like to me, Bungie's Marathon is presented in a much different way

because we know who that's coming from. We know what the studio is capable of. Fair games, what do we know about it? Like, yeah. This isn't coming from the long established multiplayer lineage of so-and-so, like it's another multiplayer game, you know?

Yeah. I think for like us, who are on PSL of you and we're reading all the, like, rumors and deep cut weird stuff, right? Like, in the acquisition of Haven games or no, yeah, no, of Haven Studio by PlayStation, they talked about it in there of like, oh, yeah, we saw what they're working on and, like, we wanted to scoot them up after seeing what they had done. Like, it was kind of, it's one of those scenarios. Now, that could just be lip service.

That could just be them talking and being like, hey, we're requiring the studio. Let's give people. We were kind of iffy on it, but we're kind of iffy, but requiring them anyway. Actually, Mark didn't want to do it, but. I think there could be something there. Fair games, Marathon. Yeah. Do we see either next year?

I think the, I, I was going to say, are you going to leave Concord out of this conversation? Are you getting confused? Because remember, of course, fair games,

by their own admission, is a new type of PVP game with emergent, same box game play. They admitted it. Concord, meanwhile, is our new PVP multiplayer

first person shooter. All right. And then Bungies Marathon, of course, this is the extraction shooter. This is a sci-fi PVP extraction shooter. Which one has VE in it? One of these games has an E. I need that. I need to know. So Concord is slated for 2024. The other two. Oh, the VE is in on veils.

Oh, thanks. I appreciate that. It's in bungee. You bring it up a good point in. But I think I don't think you feel. Not that it matters at all. Yeah, yeah. I don't think we see all three of these games come out in the same year. If most, I think we see, I'll say Concord and Fair Games. Marathon, I think, might be a bit early, just based on it being Bungee. Bungee being on no timeline, right? Like, I'm pretty sure PlayStation's like, hey, take your time, like, do your thing. Go for it.

I'm on the other side of things. I think we do see some sort of early access alpha bungee will do for Marathon. I think that they will be very open in trying to get people into this experience. The question is, how do you do that? When do you schedule that with knowing that their final Destiny 2 DLC is coming out, the final shape? When does that get scheduled? Does that even have a time on it?

That may already have a date on it, but I do think we'll see some sort of early access thing happening with Bungy where they let people into either stress test servers or get feedback from players in the same way that Ubisoft's done with their first-person shooter that I am blanking on right now. What's that? X-Difiant. Ex-definite.

That's the one, dude. God. Andy Cortez, I'm going to ask you when? Hold on here you go. The final death shape is released is expected in February 2024. I think this happened. I think Marathon happens in like the fall.

Andy Cortez. When does Eldon Ring Shadow of the Urtree come out? And when does Hollow Night Silk Song come out? I think Eldon Ring Shadow of the Urtree releases in May. I think it releases it. May, I think

Hollow Night's Silk Song releases Oh man. I'm going to say in July. Okay. And like that's, that sucks to say that, but I think it is still them wanting to

take as much time as possible. It really feels like Team Cherry is like, look, who gives a shit? We'll delay until 2028. I'm giving a damn. Should I take it off of my fantasy critic? Because right now I have it on there for 2023. They never gave it an official... Silk song?

No, they said... Silk Song's out of 2020. Yeah. Hollenite Silk Song? Yeah. No, the other Silk Song. It's out of 2020? It's out of 2020.

Oh, out of 2020. Yeah. I thought they just deleted out of the first half because they said the Xbox showcase. Like, I think they were framing it as, oh, that 12-month period, it's not coming out. But I don't think they've officially pushed it out, unless I missed another thing.

I thought that they tweeted out several weeks ago that, like... But we're, you know, we're not putting a day on it, but we're out of this year. I thought that's what they did. I mean, if so, then I can get a free drop from this thing. But it doesn't help them. Yeah, it's always a fun one. Last year I had a hit up the people who make fantasy critic and be like,

yo, this is like, are like, do you have embargoed information? I'm like, no, they set it on my show, please. Let me drop this game. I love it so much. Bless, moving to you. Yeah. Tech and eight, Project Elle. When do we see those?

Tech and eight, I think for sure is coming 2024. I mean, I don't know about window, like what season you're going to get it, but I'll think maybe first half. Up here, Bears brought it up. We had planned release in the first half of 2023, but development is still continuing, talking about Hollenite Silk Song. We're excited by how the game shaping up and it's gotten quite big, so we want to take the time to make it good, expect more details from us when we get closer.

So yeah, out of the first half. Now, is it going to hit second half? Probably not. But I'm holding out hope of my being a critic. It could still happen. I believe any. But yeah, tech and eight, we're going to get it next year. would hope in the first half of next year.

I think them hitting the, maybe the Street Fighter 6th slate of June could be cool. Like that's a bit late, but hey, like I think that leads into Evo pretty nicely. But I think we see that in the first half. Project L is a very interesting one. That was at Evo.

It was playbils in people's hands. They're showing more and more of it. But I get the implication that they're still taking their time with it. And it's riot. And so they're going to work on it until it is perfect. I see that maybe second half of 20, 24 if not even 2025. Sounds about right to me too.

Yeah. That sounds right. They like, like I was kind of mentioning with So song, it just feels like they're on their own timeline. They can do whatever they want. I'm just getting it right. That's the most important thing to them.

Looking at the not announced for 24, but could be, do you guys want to, um, take any guesses on any of these? Well, I see you have foam stars. Mm-hmm.

Let me tell you. Let's say summer. Yeah. I'll say summer. Yeah. That sounds like a bunch of fun stars. Summer Act. Yeah, right?

I can do that. Rub, Dub, Dub, do we get Monster Hunter going back to that? Do we get it in January? Oh,

no. We get in February. I win. Because they're talking about before March, right? Oh, yeah, you're going off this Capcom information.

Hmm, interesting. Because I just can't fath... January feels right to me. Because Monster Hunter World One was the end of January, if I remember correctly. When did that could announce

in that PlayStation thing? That was E3. So... But it's also, I feel like this is more of a known quantum. right like i guess but like i'm also in a world i felt like i still feel like you're on a a bigger buildup to that

january 26 was the uh release date for world what a time that was yeah a good time that's good i mean you can't have that sleep over yeah it was great xavier woods came over over that's when you know the game's good um you peepas all right now now let's move back to the tb a these are slated for 2024. Fairly big list. John Carpenter's toxic command.

Oh yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. That was a game. Let's start from the top and go down. And if you guys see when you want to shout out, let's start there. Angerfoot is weird because I thought anger foot would have come out last year. You know, like I feel like we've been waiting.

Yeah, we're hearing a lot of them. Yeah, I feel like we've been waiting. They did a Devalver Digital delayed presentation a couple days ago where they'd put. Yeah, they pushed it. They kicked it to 2020. that's pretty good right there. I mean, this looks great. Honestly, like most of the things

in the devolver delayed showcase. I'm like, oh, man, these are the ones we want and they look awesome for a reason. Yeah, I'm going to assume Angerfoot comes out, uh,

February. Yeah, that's one that I think they'll literally just drop whatever. Hey, it's coming out tomorrow and we're going to be like, oh, cool. Yeah, cool.

Yeah, it is interesting with Devolver, like since they are the ones overseeing, they're the ones trying to make all the decisions. Like, I don't think they're going to step on their own toes too much. So I do think they might spread out some of these bigger heavy hitters for the space of like skate story and and this and

plucky squire pucky squire god that was that one hurt yeah i was looking forward to them yeah avowed i need i need to call mike yeah i got to call them i got a phone yeah because if you got to think that they'd want that like redfall spot right like marchish for this thing to come out like if starfield kind of carries the xbox through the holiday that still seems so soon i don't know why i mean I know that they did massively scale down the scope of it, but that still seems really soon for me. February or March seems really soon. I think to like think about this, right? Like you got to think about the scope of what Xbox is doing in 2024.

And it's what Avald and Hellblade 2 would be the big ones. And I can see Hellblade holding down that first half and Avowed being more of a fall thing. I think that would make more sense. Does Hellblade have a 2024? No, I have it. There's no, oh, I guess I don't have it down here. There's no official date on that, yeah. But it has to be, though, right?

I feel like you. I remember when motherfuckers were saying that about this year, and I said not coming off this year. You're on it, dude. I'm always on it. Mike, get fucked. I don't even know. Oh, slapping.

We got. Oh, they made you reverse that then. I guess the vowed maybe if you have first half in the hell bleed the second half. Yeah. It does feel early for a vowed, Andy, though. You're right. Final Fantasy 7 rebirth. PlayStation

no right here from my gin Sunua saga Hellblade 2 gets a 2024 release window the big ass window so I guess it just was on the former list oh yeah that sounds right then about later go back to my first answer

Helblade first half Fall Fancy 7 Rebirth I firmly believe we get this before April next year okay the way they've shown this game and like the amount we've gotten from it which is not much but more than I expected to I think the first game came out in April

was a major success. I can see them even trying to hit earlier than that. Wow. But. Well, didn't they say winter as well? Yeah, they did. Yeah. So with how the timeline sort of shifts

in the overall Final Fantasy 7 narrative and you knowing that like, oh, part one of the remake is going to encapsulate all the Midgar sort of saga. Like, percentage wise, how far do you think this gets in? to the rest of it. I'm firmly in the camp that this game is going to take it so

off track that it's not going to be a relevant conversation. I think it's going to be familiar locales. Some story beats are the same, but for the most part it's going in a different direction. That character, he's bad now. Honestly, like I wouldn't be surprised to get some things like that. It might be

maybe, I would think the first half of this game plays it a little bit more straight and then I think it's going to open up. There are a couple key story beats that I think that they can use. I mean, seeing all this type of shit. It's like, yeah, man. The whole book is about to get wacky.

This is cool. I'm excited, man. What do y'all think about? Release date for it? First half of the year. Yeah, I'd go with first half. It just seemed like they are a lot more confident in showing it lately. I feel like it's going to be, what day do you're going to put on it?

I'll pick a day before. Yeah. So they did change, they changed their winner to early 2024. Okay. I'm saying April. seven but I'm gonna go a week later April 14th

yeah how about that I'm gonna go crazy yeah go for me to say June yeah I know that's not early that's too crazy yeah I thought you're gonna say

April 9 would be my actual the Tuesday date there yeah my gut tells me April or June I think you're on to something there yeah with that just the way Square likes to release

their games first week in May okay well I'm happy about this $1. Make me, make me happy. Next up.

He's scrolling. He's looking through. I'm looking because there is a lot of games. There's a bunch of gibrony asses. You know, little kiddie big city. Oh, damn. Multiverse is coming back out.

Multiverse is coming back out again. They are Earthblade with the game from the Celeste dev. Yeah. Oh, bless. This is a smaller title, but one that I know me and you are extremely excited about. Penny's big breakaway. Oh.

Yeah, so hard to speculate about release date for that one. But like we, the Sonic Mania devs? Yeah. But that game looks good. I know we're both very excited about. it. I mean, based on what that trailer was, they had a lot to show in that trailer.

And so I would hope that maybe we get in the first half of next year. You think March? I'm thinking March. I really hope so. I really hope so. Here's a game missing from here. Here we go. I'm looking at you.

I'm looking at you, Greg. Look me right in the goddamn eye and turn me on. Another crab's treasure. Oh! It worked! Which was like legitimately like the game that I wanted to go back and I was so mad that I couldn't go back and play it at Summer Game Fest. And that got pushed to 2024.

Like, that's a game that I need. That's a summer game. That's a game that I need. You think so a little summer or the underwater adventure? You know these Indies, you never can nail them down. They're always going to keep pushing to do whatever. I'll say summer. Like June?

Yeah. I'll say end of June. Okay. Makes me happy. Thank you for that. You're welcome. I hope it comes true for you. One for me and Bear, there's metaphorie Fantasio, which is that game that's coming from the...

Get out of here. What is that? You know what metaphor refantzantio? The non-Persona game. The game from the persona devs that looks fucking sick as hell. Yeah, that in Persona 3 reload are both playing. Repentazio. It sounds like some Italian kid or something.

Hey, refantazio. Well, yeah, this game looks sick as hell. And I think it's good. I think when it comes out, hopefully it does waves, right? Hopefully it's received in a way that like, oh man, these guys made persona. This looks like, this looks cool. Hopefully people are taking your. that way. And also you have the soundtrack by

Shoshi McGrew. I would imagine this is probably second half of 2024. I think from this trailer, it only said 2024 and Persona 3 reloaded was given like an early 2024. So I would imagine

especially, yeah, with this being the creators of the modern persona games who kind of moved off of persona to start this different team and are starting something new, I would say you would want to give those a little bit of space in between them. So, yeah, I would see this kind of maybe being their late summer, early fall kind of hit

that they're trying to get out there. And then Persona 3 reload, I would imagine, I saw like a good theory from some post somewhere of March 5th. No huge spoilers, but that's like a, that's a very important date in the game. And I think that falls on a Tuesday. So I think that could be the hit for Persona. three reload there. Refantasia,

your dinner's ready. That's my favorite line from the Mario. The Kingdom March 4 is out there too. No confirmed release date. But they announced that game. It's real. They showed game play of it years ago at this point.

That game's not coming out in 2024. Oh, I don't think so either. I don't think so. But I think we'll see it next year though. Ooh, we're at. I don't know. D23. Maybe.

Oh, no. Honestly. Yeah. What is there a D23 next year? I don't think there is. Isn't there? Because this year was. Star Wars celebration.

Isn't he's in D23 every two years? Yeah, okay, wow. Yeah. Man, Tom's just moving quick. I know, right? Really quick. Interesting one for your bless. What up? Rise of the Ronin. Oh, yeah, that's the other

Koea Tecmo joint that's coming out next year. That's like, Salspe Moore, Open World, Assassin Creedy. Yeah, no, that game looks really cool. That's the one that we always mixed up with Wollong. And this was like, no, this is always like the PlayStation exclusive one. I mean

Whenever it comes out I just hope it looks prettier than Wollong I mean I get the sense from the trailers that they're putting in a bit more TLC than they did for Wollong Wollong's great obviously We played and we like also I forgot that game came out It came out this year

That came about this year Like I have a running like game of the year list Like notes in my notes app thing And I think I just forgot about Wollong Like I didn't even put it in there Like that's how much I forgot about that game But that game was good It was a fun time and yeah

If Team Ninja takes their skill from the Neo games and from this and put it into something that is a bit more open and something that might speak to Greg Miller because it has Assassin's Creed elements in it too. They might have something special on their hands. And yeah, they got the PlayStation promotion and push behind it. So that I'm looking forward to you. I'm going to tackle this next one from a different perspective.

What's the likelihood Star Wars outlaws doesn't hit 2024? Doesn't? Yeah. Huh. I mean, it's the usual, right? where it's like putting bad thoughts on my brain. Anything's possible. Again, though, they made a big push.

I'm not saying they, you know, people make big pushes for games. They delay three weeks later. It happens all the time. But I believe this one for some reason. I feel like with as many partners as you have, with Disney involved, you know, Lucas, obviously,

and then Ubisoft trying to get their shit together. I don't think they would come out and say this if they weren't confident. Greg, the force is strong with this one. It looks great. Like, I really do. I feel that same feeling. The midi-chlorians are soaring through my body right now.

I do think it is a, I think it's a deadlock for like October, November. Yeah. I don't know if a company could handle that much egg on their face of delaying. And crow in their mouth. And crow in their mouth. Rub some crow on my face. UBSoft has been going through it for the last however many years.

And we, like, there are so many conversations we have about UBesoft. And so many of them are with that negative tone of, oh what's going on here right like oh why was go ghost recon breakpoint like this oh why was um uh why have we already forgotten about rainbow six like what happened to roller not roller drone the other roller skating game that we used off to roller champions yeah like what's going on riders republic republic righters republic though uh but what's going on here and star wars outlaws for me seems like the okay this is what like this is what it's been all for this is what we've been trying to get to this is where we're putting you know all

all hands on deck, yeah, all hands on deck for Star Wars Outlaw Outlaws. Ubisoft is United on making this one year. Like it has to be good. It has to come out. And yeah, to Greg's point, there are too many partners involved to like fuck this one up. Like if it gets delayed, I think

it'll be a all we really got to delay this thing scenario. It just looks so good. Take the egg off of your face and put it in the and all in the baskets. Put all the baskets. Put all the baskets and cook. I'm with you guys. I think this one hits next year. Because yeah, if it's not next year, then

And what are we even doing this for? Then what are we doing? And also, but also to that point, Assassin's Creed read, like we talked about, is rumored for next year. Do both of those hit fall? Because that seems a bit much. I would think you do Star Wars

All right? Star Wars outlaws in September. And then, yeah, stick to your November for Assassin's Creed. I'm going to go crazy. I'm going to say July for Star Wars outlaws. When we're going to guess? It's house is Creed, Miami.

What if you get even crazy, you do you make the fourth? Whoa. That'd be pretty sick. And then what about Untitled Princess Peach game? Untitled game starring Princess. Starring Princess Beach. Don't hope it's all that. Yeah.

I mean, it's funny, right? We look at that when there's the Switch games here that we don't really have the answers to, we got that. We have Luigi's Mansion, Dark Moon, which is the second game, the 3DS game being part of the Switch. We just got the Detective Pikachu to Return to Detective Pikachu. Detective Pikachu's return is what it's

Returns. I really wish it was called Detective Fingachute 2 Returned I'd hope so Electric Bugaloo Yeah So we're seeing

We've known this for a while But we're seeing the end of the Switch life cycle Like before our eyes kind of happened We got Mario Wonder Coming October 20th Then these you can kind of place

early next year, right? It kind of like just nicely just tells a little story there. The big question mark is Metroid Prime 4. Does it hit 2024? Is it cross-gen? Is it just Switch? Is it just next? What I don't even freaking know there? Yeah, I mean, I don't have a timer for Metroid Prime 4. I think with Nintendo coming out quite a few years ago and being like, hey, we're starting this thing. Like, we're working on it. I forget if they said they're shifting developers, but like we know that developer shifted. It's hard for to even try and anticipate this thing because I think they're just working on it and the fact that they haven't talked about it leads me to believe that maybe they just don't have things to say. I think ideally it'd be super dope if yeah, this, if it was ready

by next year and it was a cross-gen game and it was what ushered us into the Switch 2 generation. But yeah, like right here Barrett has highlighted that happened in January 2019 when they talked about that game restarting and like, I mean, that could, I mean, that could be enough time. It could also not be enough time for that kind of game. It's just interesting to me because retro hasn't done any. thing since then and even before then for so long dating back to 2013 with a 14

with a donkey on country tropical freeze and like sure they weren't working on it but it's like at some point I'm sure that they were working on a Metroid Prime 4 to some extent so I really do wonder where it all comes into play I just don't see Metrid Prime 4 being the crossover from

Switch to the next switch that we've seen before with a Zelda title or something I mean it's pretty much just been Zelda with Twilight Princess and Breath of the Wild on that one, Metroid just doesn't have that. I feel like, I firmly think that Metroid's going to be a one or the other.

I think Baxter compatibility gets that a little bit weird, but I don't think there's going to be, this game is available to purchase on both systems game. Metroid buying four for me is like 2025. Switch 2. Pro. Whoa. They're coming out with two Switch.

Wow. That's the other thing too is that. You know, I mentioned that, oh yeah, maybe like can usher us into the switch two generation, but Metroid Prime 4 isn't a launch game necessarily. Like usually if you're Nintendo, you want to go with a Mario, you want to go with a Zelda, or a Wii Sports. But like, Metroid Prime hasn't, or Metroid hasn't been that, right? And I don't think Nintendo looks at Metroid as that because that Metroid, as much as we want Metroid to sell, it's not that big hitter.

Yeah, it don't sell. And so maybe, yeah, maybe you're right. Maybe even if it is ready by, let's say, end of 2024, maybe they just hold it and wait for 2025 to put it out. Do we see a dread follow-up? I trade dread. I mean, eventually, I don't think any time soon, though. But I mean, yeah, that team, what are they working on? Again, I say this so often, but like, I love how many unanswered questions there are

in terms of what our Nintendo teams working on. Clearly, we're not getting them because we're ending something to begin something new. So, I, Nintendo EAD, man, the Odyssey team, what are they up to? You got to imagine it is the launch game. It is, and that I could see as like some type of like crossover between. the two, whatever that looks like. But, you know, Greg talking about June, I feel like that can make a lot of sense, right?

Switch launching with a new 3D Mario, 2D Mario October 20th this year. Like, God damn, man. Like, if Nintendo wanted to make as much money as humanly possible with their next console, there's only two answers. It's either a big, big, meaty. We're treating this like the next Mario game

or Animal Crossing. And I thought those are the two things. Spiritual Successor. You know, That's somewhere. Man, they're going to make me re-buy Tears of the Kingdom to run at 60 frames per second. I'm going to do it.

Can I ask a question? Yes, you can. What's going to win Game of the year next year? Wow. That is an excellent question. That's a question that I want to end this show on. Everybody. Huh.

Who has an answer? It's hard to predict because, like, there's just so, so much unknowns. But I feel like by this time, and maybe I'm just misremembering, but in previous years, I feel like I could at least be like, Oh yeah, this is the big game that's coming on next year.

That's going to dominate everything. Next year, I feel like maybe the easy answer is a Final Fantasy 7 rebirth. But for some reason, that feels off to me. I'm going to say Saw Wars. I think Outlaws. I think UBSO is going to really pop off of this one. I mean, if Wolverine happened, I would say Wolverine on this list. Yeah.

I'm going to think the 3D Mario game. One that I didn't have on here. That's a great pick Because it's early access And like is supposed to come out early access this year So who knows if it even comes out next year Hades 2 Oh man

That's a really good I could see a case I've just been reminded of so many games That I kind of forgot about And I'm just I'm happy right now I'm a happy guy Either that or I mean Earthblade From the Celeste up is on here too

And I can see that being a big surprise But yeah A Hades 2 coming out I think in full next year Which might be a big ass But I think that could do a lot for That conversation My number one hyperlight breaker.

I'll say that right now. Oh, God. How likely do you think Kind of Funnies game of the year, 20204, is one we haven't even talked about. Very. Oh, very.

Yeah. Very. For sure. I would say almost with 100% certainty. Wow. I don't know why. Somebody somebody, the time code is remind me about it.

Remind me about it when we get to next year. Yeah. Yeah. Please. Please do that. And let us know in the comments below what you're thinking about 2024. What gets you excited? What do you worry?

It's going to get delayed. What are you hoping? What do you think it wins? Game of the year, 2024. At this moment in time. Until next time, I love you all. Goodbye. I don't know if Greg knows he's on a show right now.