Kinda Funny Gamescast: Video Game Podcast - Alfredo Diaz (Special Guest) - Kinda Funny Gamescast Ep. 96

Episode Date: December 2, 2016

Alfredo Diaz joins us to discuss the OG Xbox, the best shooters of 2016, video game trailers, and relationships. (Released to Patreon Supporters 11.25.16) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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You guys should try it. Let me know. Tweet me. What's up guys? Welcome to the first ever, episode 96 of the kind of funny games cast. As always, I'm Tim Geddes. Joined by the coolest dudes in video games. Alfredo Diaz?

No. He counts. No. Alfredo. What half of the coolest dudes of video games, Greg Miller? The other half called Moriariari out there. Living the life. Living the life.

He's at the place right now that's on the back of the nickel. He's in real America, the back of the nickel. Yeah. There's a little fucking house on there and he's outside of it right now. No.

I didn't know either. Aaron took a photo holding up it and there's the house. I'm like, oh, all right. Huh? I can't even remember the last time I've seen a nickel.

It's a musical, too busy making them dollars, know what I mean? No, but I just know. We brought up, never roll along. That's what we did. But Alfredo Diaz,

Alfredo plays himself joining us once again. It's been a long time since you've been on the Gamescast. On Gamescast, yeah, but I popped over and did some streaming on your guys' channel. You did some streaming stuff. You done the extra life stuff. I did Outlast. You did Outlast. You did the Titanfall review for us.

I did the Titanfall coverage for us. Thank you very much for that. It was fun. How you been? What's been going on? Good. I mean, this is my season right now. All these FPS games are out.

You know what I mean? all the, all the, DLC for the games that I've been, I've been playing. So I've just been doing, uh, Patreon. And then I've also been doing just the streaming.

It's been great. Good. Yeah. Well, that's exactly why we had you on this episode. And also for the sex appeal. Show the guns. One, two.

What? Show the guns. Give them the ice cream. Oh my God. I love the show. Ladies and gentlemen, this is the kind of funny games cast. Each every week we get together to talk about video games.

Nick, show Nick, show Nick. Bring in the ice cream sco. Come feel him, Nick. Come feel these ice cream scoops. do is sit play games now it's the fly it's gone what was what was there was is now look at that tell me there's nothing look it doesn't even move it doesn't move show them your

python do the python why is it bruise do it it's doing it's go oh okay jujitsu you see a stress mark because I that's how you know you've been put into work that's like you know you're fat on your kid hashtag gains god there's a lot going on you're gonna go okay thank you thank you you, Kevin. There'll be no switching today. Kevin is on a secret mission. What's he going to eat? Man, first off, shout up to Stephen Insler, our Patreon producer, 10,000 months in a row. You are a fantastic human being, and we appreciate you a lot. I want to give a shout out to Super Smash Bros. Melee. 15 years ago, that game came out.

Wow. Sweet baby Jesus. A game that I wish I was decent at, but man, do I suck at that game? Yeah. Did you, did you play melee? You got into brawl. I got into brawl and I was terrible. But I, like, that's when like, you know, we all gathered at Curran's house for Thanksgiving and like land partied. And then I would like be on the high pedestal with Halo and then brawl.

We play brawl and I would just be terrible. And I was like, man, I want to be like good. Let's go back to Halo. Like all the cool kids. You know there was something was bad when I would beat you at a video game. Yeah. Made no sense. That's not okay.

We play a Halo. It's surprising because you said 15 years ago for melee. I was like, all right. I remember playing in high school. I'm like, oh, no, that was Smash Bros. That was the original Smash Bros. I'm old. I'm old old old man.

Man, yeah, the original Smash Bros. I was elementary school. Melee was like that ripe just getting into middle school. Sure. It was good. You had that tight ass. Yeah, puberty. Things are hair was grown in weird places.

Yeah. It was nuts. Anyway, yeah, so shout out to Smash Bros. I also want to give an anti shout out to the fact that I still haven't played Final Fantasy 15. It is currently, as of recording this November 22nd. We are days away from this game being released. Let me check my email. Still don't believe it.

See if these people have come to their senses yet. No. But I'm just really sad because all I want is to play this game. Well, the best news is you're probably going to get it any day now. And when that happens, Gia is going to get to watch with you. Yeah, that'll be great. That's the kind of game that I just want to sit back, relax, and watch. And watch me play.

You know what I mean? It's like I watch you play Mario Galaxy. Mario Galaxy. Yeah. That was awesome. That was way before Twitch was a thing. Before Let's plays were really that big. Just said one even a thing then yeah yeah sat back and watched him play them long

Oh, this is live less one he's afraid of fredo Dias I don't know if you know this about him can't jump in games He can do a lot of things once there's platforming involved It's terrible. He's useless to have friends like any platform part like got a war I had to have friends do it No wonder you didn't like the Titan fall single player campaign That makes a lot of sense All right so going right into it the first topic of the day is the 15th anniversary of the Xbox So last week it is when it actually has It's also the 15th anniversary of the GameCube, but you know, we need we need calling to talk about that.

Like I feel like it's only right. But I wanted to get you on this show so that we could talk about the Xbox because you're Mr. Xbox. That was my life. That was my heritage. Like I, it was weird. I grew up like all my friends and it'd be like you, you guys were on the Nintendo, the GameCube.

They had PlayStation. I had this weird path in video games. I had a game gear. Yeah, you did. Sega Saturn. Yeah. The Dreamcast. Oh, what a bad time to.

jump on. Wow. And then I had the Xbox and I always felt like the odd kid out. Right. You know what I mean? But boy was the Xbox good. I liked it. Xbox. Xbox was ahead of its time in so many regards. They did so many interesting things that Duke controller though. But the breakaway cables

controlers. That was hot. That was hot. Step towards wireless. Yeah, exactly. It was horrible and ugly. But then I mean like it did have awesome stuff. I mean, Halo obviously. Star Wars. The old public, yeah. I don't know. For me back during that time, you know, when it came to like playing games with their friends, it was either split screen or you're on PC,

like at a cyber cafe playing CS, you know what I mean? And there's one of those things I wasn't a PC gamer back then. You know, I was all about consoles and handhelds. You were smart back then. Yeah, I was a smart kid. But like, you know, then comes the Xbox. I was like, oh, I could just plug these two together.

And all of a sudden, like, I don't have to put this cardboard between me and my brother. So that way he hasn't screenpeaked me. Sure. You know, and blood goats. It was game changer. Big to me. Yeah.

I mean, what's crazy about the Xbox, I mean, now you think about it was like Xbox just part of gaming. But like when that came out, it was, they were the new third guy. Yeah, Bill Gates giving interviews to Time magazine and stuff. You're like, what the fuck? Why would you?

Just get out. We focus test this with all these gamers. Da-da-da-da-da. All right. Whatever. And I mean, that's the thing, though, is it's like it was the first time that we saw. I mean, now this is kind of a visionous history.

But like a successful American game concept. console developer, right? Yeah. Like we, we've had on Nintendo, we've had PlayStation and then Sega and then Sega kind of fell out. But the new third was Xbox, which is this American thing, taking a very, very American stance with very American games. And it was going up against the PS2, which at that point was PlayStation, which meant

JRP's and third person action games and the Nintendo, which meant Nintendo games, right? Right. And then on the Xbox, it was just like, that was really the ushering in. of what the modern shooter is on a console. Of course, there's the Counterstrikes and the Quakes and the Unreal tournaments and stuff on that. I mean, Golden Eye, right? That was when you're using a stick and stuff.

Yeah, but it was the Xbox that really kind of brought in that dual stick shooter of what you think. When you're talking about Halo, you're talking about, a lot of PC ports happened on the Xbox, obviously because of Microsoft and stuff, but we saw the Counterstrike. Yeah, I played Counterstrike. Which almost lost our friendship because of that game.

Tim would be like, yo, you want to hang out after, you know, in high school? You want to hang out? But like, no, man, I got clan matches. Yeah, you tell. It was at a good time. It was just like, it was a whole new experience. You know what I mean? Like, I had my shoes.

Of course, like, there was the times where I stepped away and I played nonchures, like blinks or like crimson skies. Like the only flying game I actually like love and cherish is crimson skies. And then I tried Shenmu. That was weird for me back to that time. Yeah, playing shooters. And all of a sudden is Shenmu? I'm like, what is this?

what we're looking at. But I just, I just remember, I'm looking for the man that killed my father. I just remember watching, like, you know, picking up my copy of OXM and then, you know, being excited for my demo disc and all of a sudden there's all these like ad campaigns for, you remember like that Darkmaster ad where it was just like teaching how to set up Xbox Live and it was really cheesy and kind of really bad. But there was that whole like commercials and all that kind of stuff. And I remember setting up Xbox Live and it was playing like Mech Assault.

And I was like, oh my God. Like I was really shy because I was a squeaker back then. You know what I mean? I was like high voice. Yeah, high voice. Balls haven't dropped yet. And I remember using, because it was a common thing back then, the voice mask changer for Xbox Live.

Because I didn't want people to know that I was a squeaker. And then I'm over here playing this Megasol game being super nervous talking to other kids while playing. And I just had no idea who they were. And then all of a sudden you just don't care because everyone tries to talk about your mom or something. Yeah. It was a way to perform. Man, it's such a.

A funny time though because again, not only was it just such a weird thing that Xbox was now all of a sudden a console, but even as it was happening, all the other gamers are like, get the fuck out of here, Xbox. We have what we need. We have 10 over Sega. Let's see how this plays out. Exactly. PlayStation. Yeah. Cool.

Let's see what happens there. Like killing it. Like once the PS2 came out, it's like Sony was a force. You know, like they were totally in the thing. Like they have their own neck of the woods to play with. So with Xbox, it was like you're looking at this launch lineup and it's like, all right, cool. Halo and that was awesome. But I feel like if you weren't a hardcore Xbox gamer, everyone just kind of looked at

and it and it's like Xbox only has Halo and Cotor and Splinter Cell. Stubbs the zombie eventually. And then there's a bunch of bullshit. There's the blinks. There's the Stubbs. There's the jade empire. All the odd world games. Jade Empire.

But then it's like, man, I was looking back at just what games came on on Xbox. I'm like, man, it actually had a lot of exclusives that ranged in quality. Lay on me. But it's on the Jet Set Radio Future, which was. Very early title. I never really got into it. There was something about it that it, I mean, I wanted Tony Hawk and it wasn't Tony Hawk. Yeah.

Which is a me problem, not a them problem. But Chronicles of Riddick. I was like, fuck. That was a good game. It looked graphically amazing back during that time, too. And that was the other thing about the Xbox is that it looked better than the other systems. So it was like.

That was one of my very few arguments. And it looked better. There was multiple third party games that I would, like multi-platform games that I would play on Xbox just because it looked better. Like Prince of Persia, I played the entire trilogy on Xbox. You son of a bitch.

Time splitters because it was a shooting game. Like shooting games just felt at home on the Xbox. Even though the controller was terrible. I mean, that's the thing. Like the Duke was fucking horrible.

The S controller. Better. That's controller was better. That first one was a just it was so bad. It was so bad. I mean, the whole system itself too

was just so bulky. And that was the problem with it where when it came out, it was a joke. You know what I mean? I never adopted it. And I didn't, and it took a while. It wasn't until what my sophomore year of college,

which would have been 2001 into 2000, no, 2002 to 2003, that I had a friend who had an Xbox and like people who were coming on. They were freshmen. So like they were, you know, the year below us that for some reason it was clicking with. But I remember how big it was. Like the form factor didn't look good. It didn't seem sexy. It didn't seem like they knew what they were doing,

which was an amazing. When you're just looking at photos of it was the knock ahead of time. And that was the thing of like, how do you understand how awesome Halo is, unless you sit down and play HALO with other people. And I mean, I think that to me was the definite moment. It was, it was Halo. And I was late to the Xbox game.

But I remember, like, I had a GameCube. I had a PS2, and I was totally invested in both of those. And it was Curran's now brother-in-law at the time, just sister's boyfriend, who was just like, you guys need to play Halo. Like, you're going to love this game. It's, like, crazy. And it's a whole new, like, genre for you, really. Like, this multiplayer competitor.

arena death match shooting game where you can play with multiple Xboxes and we're like 11 and I don't know this sounds like the cyber cafe that we walk by all the time and we don't do that and eventually at Kerr and got an Xbox

and I was like man this is this Halo game is really cool and then I got one and we were able to hook him together and I'm like this is video games evolving like you always talk about Metal Gear Solid as being a moment where you're like holy shit games can be so much more than I thought and that for us was again it wasn't

Like there's so many people that had their eyes opened years before this. But for us, it was Halo of just like, multiplayer gaming can be so much more than Mario Party. And or even more than Golden Eye. Like there was something to do with like the team based things. And like being able to play with not just two players, 16 players being at Curran's house and having split screen, but you're playing capture the flag across two different rooms.

And it's just like there's something about that that was like, fuck, there's something here. And that was the, I mean, we talk about, you know, our age differences. stuff and I feel like for me that was the hurdle on a bridge too far of reading about that in eGM and seeing it in pictures or whatever but then being like in Illinois and then even into my freshman year or whatever I'm the I'm the hardest hardcore gamer I know I'm I don't Po is not going to buy an Xbox and then are we going to get everybody together and even if we did

we're going to drag TVs together and do this could the how could you're a dumb kid you're like could the power work with the power blow a fuse or whatever and da da and you don't I mean, you know, I always tell a story about when Po and I were playing in CAA on PS2 when he brought his PS2 over and I brought a TV downstairs. It's not hard. It wasn't hard. But like, for some reason, that was the hurdle of like, that's fine. But I'm fine playing split screen. Golden I went up.

My friends want to play a something multi-clay. Yeah, it's so funny. And you're right. It is just like we were just that right age. Like us being, but 11 to 13. It was just like the idea of, hey, here's this giant. The biggest console that's ever existed, you're going to lug that thing across cities to go to your friend's house so that all of our Xbox. is in one place.

And we did that shit, though. You know, it was like, it was worth it because it got us to, to what you need to go. The time I knew something was different outside of just EGM or even then, I guess, an IGN, you know, a game spot or whatever when I'm reading stuff online was we were having an antler party sophomore year and a house party. Everybody's getting drunk and hanging out and being, and having a great time. And somebody finally, like the new kids, the new class were like, blah, blah.

And then in a blink of eye, they were all gone. And I was like, where did all these guys go? and they're like, oh, I think it was Kyle Perry's doing a lane party or whatever. It's like, what now? And they're all playing Halo over there. They've been like, what? Like, how did I not know they were into this? Because they weren't into, let's play Wind Waker and talk about this.

And because, you know, me and my friends are playing, or the other guys are playing, you know, GameCube stuff together multiplayer that way or me slinking off to go play Prince of Purge or something like that. They weren't into those games, but they were into first person shooting. Let's all go, you know, do capital flag till the end of the night. Yeah, man. And then there was that next kind of level where after the, initial launch titles and the Halo thing, they got into the Xbox Live, which was Dreamcast had the online, but I think Xbox Live was really the beginning of where we're

right now. It was a great time. Like going even back before that though, just from my like experiences with Halo, it's way different from yours because I remember I wanted my uncle and we went, this is like the mission of San Francisco, so it's kind of ghetto. But this was back when the mission was like a scary place, not a hipster cool place. Yeah. It's very hefester now.

I remember going there and going to his friend's house and like his friends were like the guys that stood on the stoop and hung out all day. And I went in and everyone's drinking and stuff. I'm like, oh, God, this is weird. And then they're all playing Halo and I sat down. I started like it just connected with me and I loved it. And then I remember playing that. And that was my experience with like Halo and multiplayer, right? And then you connected to the land.

I remember just seeing everyone's name pop up, right? Like, you know, you'd have your knee Krakakosh back in. Yeah. We'd make our own names and our armor would be paint sometimes. And I was like, wow, this is amazing. Seeing everyone pile into the lobby. And then came, like, Xbox Live and being able to take that to a whole new level. And that's when I discovered Clans.

Competitive gaming. And I remember because I was doing Counterstrike and then on Xbox. On Xbox because I wasn't, I had like some really crappy computer back then. Although I did try Wolfenstein and it failed. Eventually, I did try CS on that exact same computer. I took my grandma's credit card and charged it without telling her anything. Oh, Alfredo. And then CS didn't even work on my computer.

Oh, CS didn't work. It did not work. Damn. Yeah, I was back during that day. But I remember playing contract on the Xbox. I was pretty good at it. And this guy's like, yo, man, do you want to join our team and like playing its other teams? And then I was nervous.

I was this battle, game battle, game battles.com? I think it was, yeah, it might have been something like a different side, but it might have been like super early game battles. But I remember sending that up. And back during that time, if you wanted to like talk with other players, I remember you had to like, or even read a message, you had to exit out of the game to look at the message. Or you all had to pile into the Xbox dashboard and close the game out for everyone to be in there talking to each other. And that's where we set up the rules and the regulations and like, all right, what map? Who's picking what first? And that's where all the fights happened to.

And yeah, it was a good times. I mean, well, that's the thing like, Halo 2 matchmaking. That's just such a thing that we take for granted now Just like oh yeah Matchmaking is a thing But like back then it was like Whoa there's like a system to make sure that you're linked with other players To play shoddy

What was shoddy snipers? Shoddy snipers Like that's like damn man That shit was so next level It was it was amazing because I played Halo with you guys right And it was one of those things like Kurt and I We were like the best Halo players And then you step into this realm

Where you're playing kids from all over the place Right and it just It changed the game Like I there was so many different play styles and angles that I didn't even know about before. I didn't play shoddy snipers until really late until that time and then here came this revolutioning like ranking system that they brought out. Oh yeah the level 50 shit. Yeah and that was it's like whoa like this is I'm over here like this is a video game but now

I'm sweating like this is awesome. Yeah it's a good time. So going off the halo though so fable mechicel man fable ninja guidance like that ninja guide was one of those games where it was just like it was beautiful and I played it, but it was so difficult. But that was like one of the Xbox touchtones of like they were trying to not just be the Michael Bay of video games. Sure. Here's a franchise. You know.

Let's bring it back. And like the Xbox is here to stay. Yeah. You know, um, I'm dead or alive three. Like, Dead or Live obviously had been around before. But I really associate Deader Live with Xbox because of that game. And it, and obviously beach volleyball.

I was about to say I played beach volleyball. There was those moments. I probably spent a couple hundred hours of beach volleyball. I got really invested into the outfits. Oh, yeah. You would. Sure. That's an Alfredo ass move.

Panzer Dragoon, Orta. Not as good as Saga, but it was fantastic. Steel Battalion. That fucking thing. Ooh. The controller. Yeah. God.

It was a whole, just, that was expensive too. That was way too expensive for me back during that time. That's the thing is I remember reading about. Like, that was one of those, like, the magazine things. where you would always look at the updates of it. And you're just like, I can't believe that's a real thing. This is a real thing that's happening. Yeah.

All right. And Brendan I, you've had it. Of course. Yeah, it's weird to meet the people who did have that that randomly had still. Yeah. Like, oh, wow.

Okay. Like, you're fucking insane. And now we have VR. It's just like such a next level. Brood Force. I play the hell out of that game, but that game is terrible. Yeah.

I wanted to be so good though, because back then I was always looking for a reason to be like, ha, we've got this game on Xbox. and I wanted that to be one of those games It was supposed to be I mean that's the problem is brute force Is one of the best stories of overhyped You know like just really fucking up everything

Because that game was supposed to be The Xbox fuck you to everyone else Yep And it just wasn't good No I remember when the demo came out And that was when everyone's like oh Yeah it was really bad

Even before then though I was like I bought it into the hype I was like oh my god This like ragged head tree of characters And once kind of an alligator and I was like, oh my goodness, there's so much personality. I'm waiting for a game with that. It's kind of an alligator.

I was looking at that time for like characters. Because you guys had like, you know, like, especially with like Nintendo. So many iconic characters. You wanted a mascot. Yeah. I wanted someone more than the chief. That was the thing, man, of like when Sega, when Dreamcast drops off and PlayStation's rising and Nintendo's like muddling along.

It was that thing of there was no clear. here's the new console arms race. Here's who it's going to be. This is who it is. Because Mario Sonic is the iconic one. And then from there on out, it got weird. When there finally was a winner, it was very much like, well, what happens next? And then at chief, obviously, you know, Rose and Prominence.

Yeah. I mean, it's funny because, like, looking at this list, it kind of, I mean, going on, there's, obviously, blinks the time cat, stops the zombie. There was a lot of just exclusives. Conquer Live and Reloaded eventually came out, which was a really weird thing. Project Gotham Racing. the only racing game that I played the hell out of. And it was great because it was like, I don't know, it was realistic but kind of arcady

at the same time. So it was like the perfect balance. Because then not like, I remember it was playing Nefer Speed Underground. You know what I mean? The music and everything. And I was like, all right, this is fun. And then I go to like Grand Tourismo. I'm like, no, too real.

Too real. Project Gothel was like that. That nice little middle ground. Yeah. And that's kind of what I was saying. Like there was a lot of multi-platform games that I just kind of went over on Xbox. And I think it's just because we happen to have that version. So like our like I associate fight night with Xbox.

Yeah. And I don't know why. It's probably I think it was available on everything. It was like, but fight night was such an Xbox game to me. That game looked good. It did. And fight night. Fight night's one of those things that like,

all right, here's a sports game that is going to have mainstream appeal. Yeah. Mainstream to people that aren't sports guys like mainstream gamer appeal, which I guess didn't exist. It's a whole thing. But like Fight Night did you play fight night at all? Yeah.

Not an Xbox, but yeah, I played Fight Night. But that's how that was. the reach of fight night where I was like here's a really great boxing game like I don't watch boxing I've never given a shit about boxing but this is a cool game yeah yeah and that was the other thing too that is a holy shit it was looks fantastic yeah it was a good part of game too because then you're just like all right you have your halo and you get exhausted on that or you know and then also you bring in

like fight night and you just have your friends just in the corner one v one each other and that was the thing right there was there was a a fun factor to that of being able to drop in and it wasn't the Xbox version but I remember at IGN when the one of the final fight nights or the one the final fight nights that matter came around where we did like a giant office tournament that wasn't for like a video series it was just that's fucking around because everybody wanted to play man and then rainbow six three oh rainbow six that was I want to talk more about the current state of rainbow but that'll come like that'll come like later but now rainbow six is great and it like it was one of those games where it was a hardcore tactical shooter right so but it wasn't

to the point where it was counter strike it was easily accessible for console players as opposed to like CS which was just that was a very very difficult shooter especially on a controller and then you had halo which was kind of you know just fun and then came rainbow which is like in between it was great because that I remember for me like even though I did client matches rainbow was one I was very

tactical with my friends you know and it was like we have we have these intense strats we're attacking multiplayer in a specific way and I felt like an operative it was a cool Cool. Well, the I think the real source for that for me understanding how crazy you are when it comes to these strategies and like working with people with Splinter Cell. Oh yeah. That's what I was thinking to spin ourselves for me. I always I love spinners. So's multiplayer so much and I feel like it's so underrated in terms of like just what it is. But I also think it's because so difficult just because like here's a game that does really well and that is like I just remember being really competitive and pretty far balanced. in terms of like having first person versus third person and they made that work and you really felt like because when it came to like shooters sure you had like your power ups and stuff like that but here you had two different characters with different abilities and to me it blew my mind that

like you had your spies or they could be anywhere then you all of a sudden you have like your murk who had motion sensor so if anything moved you can see but then they had gadgets where if you were a murk right and i came, um, sorry. Yeah. Um, yeah. Um, yeah, if you're a Merk and you came and smack me as a spy, you could like talk to me while I'm on the ground passed out. Or if I had a spy camera and I shot it next to you and you're a Merck, I could listen in on everything you were saying to your teammate. And I was like, that's a cool idea. Awesome. Yeah. Tom, the Splinter style, I remember being on the outside,

that was the first game. I remember being like, I wish that had come over. I wish we had that. I think it's because I didn't, maybe didn't give a Cotor too much time a day. Because that beat, am I, doesn't remember Cotaur before. Splinter Cell or Splinter Cell before? I feel like you must have been before. I think it was before. I thought so too. Yeah, but I mean, I, the reason that Splinter Cell was appealing to you is because everyone's like, it's better than Metal Gear. It's the new age

of Metal Gear. And it was just like, that was that, like, huh, this is interesting. And the game was great. And then the second one added multiplayer, right? Yeah. The second one, there was Splinter Cell and then Pandora tomorrow. And then Pandora tomorrow added Spies versus Works. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. That was another game. I lost you too. Like, you were just so deep down in that multiplayer. That was during the days where, like, leaderboards were a super big

relevant yeah super relevant and that's when like I was like oh top like seven the leaderboard for counter strike and like top I was number one spy on that one I was just I was gone man yeah I was just gonna keep going at it because it could get the code off wind up camera oh I totally did I totally did and I had nowhere else to post it so I just had that with me but what I really enjoy about this topic is looking back on Xbox I'm like huh I actually think way more fondly of that console than I thought that I did and this is same thing like looking back on PlayStation like it's like now that playstations existed for 20 years it's like damn they've really had a lot of hits they have characters they have what nintendo has and

you would have never thought about it until you stop and think about it sure and it's like with xbox i feel like now thanks to 360 and xbox one that we're going to look in a couple years look back and it'd be like oh man no xbox has a lineage like there is already there's a history like it might not be characters but they have xbox live you know they have all these like the land party and like they changed things in a way that we're going to remember that forever. Yeah, yeah. Same thing that we'll look back with, ooh, yeah. That's the thing, right, is that these new platforms come around,

and it's so hard to enter a space that's so established. And we did it with PlayStation where I was like, I'm not going to give PlayStation the time of day until years. It's like, all right, they're committed to it. It's a real thing. There's great games. And Xbox is the same way. Like, yeah, you know, eventually my roommate Parker moved into the Antler House,

and he had it. And I'd go over and sit in front of his and play Jade Empire. And then, like, eventually I went and bought my own, and I caught up on Star Wars. and I caught up on this and I got Stubbs to zombie, which was amazing. See, I was a young kid, so I just went with whatever my parents gave me. So I felt the heartbreak of falling in love with Dreamcast. Yeah.

And then just having that die in front of me. Yeah. Suppressing. So next topic of the day, 2016 in shooters. It's a good year for shooters. It feels like it has been. It's a great year. We got Overwatch.

We got Titanfall 2. We got Call of Duty Infinite Warfare. we got Battlefield 1 All of these games Big Daddy Doom You're gonna get yelled at you We got Doom We got

What else am I mentioned? I want to hear his thoughts And it doesn't have to be right now On siege Because siege has come on so strong This siege came out Last year No I'm saying

It came out and everybody's like Oh that's not doing anything And then this year is It's just skyrocketed The thing with siege is It was a victim in the same way That like Titanfall Seems to be a victim this year

And it just came out The wrong time Totally where there's so much other going on last year where had it been earlier in the year, I think it would have like been more popular because you don't really see people talking about siege now, but the people that are into it seem to be super fucking into it. Yeah, but those sieges have always had that hardcore fan base. And I think one of the things, you know, to go alongside with the fact that he released, you know, during the time of Cod and everything like that was the fact that it just had a lot of issues.

You know what I mean? Even off the bat, like when it was first released, you couldn't party up. Server issues were just crazy. But the game still worked well. Are we jumping into the CES topic now? You can start there. I think it applies for the year of shooters in 2016. I feel like it's weird because like siege came out last year. But in terms of like best shooters in 2016, I honestly feel like Cedges in there. Because they've just done so many right things with that game.

And it shows, right? Like the first two ESL tournaments that they have, the third one is, you know, in terms of viewerships, more than the first two combined. Not to mention it's had its higher player base in the past, uh, like two months ago. And it's just, it's because they keep adding to the game in the right way in the sense that like,

there's been over 50 like changes. And they add something really interesting when it comes to like, sure, you got Titanfall, you got battlefield, you got cog, but here's like a shooter that services like the tactical need, right? And they did a really good job of revamping that series.

and not just going completely in a different direction. And it stays true to like what siege was back in the day, but evolved beautifully and with the whole like how it, you know, you have destructible like walls and objects. And it's just they did a great job. And they kept adding to the game in the sense of operatives, right? They kept adding like new characters that brought something to the table. But like one of the things that I didn't like,

I don't like when it comes to like shooters is, I like the competitiveness of shooters, and you take away the competitiveness if you start adding too many abilities, right? And you have all these ops with all these different abilities, but at the basis, it's just gun versus gun skill like fights, which is great.

Yeah. But what I love about the most is that something, when it comes to league, like I can't really get into league, but I've always respected and appreciated the whole, they have different characters that do different things, and you have like your picking band phase and count,

like characters that counter each other. And it was cool seeing that come to the shooter genre, right? In terms of the fact that like if I choose this character, this other character is going to counter me. But at the end of the day, it just takes one bullet to kill the other opposing player with a headshot. So they just kept adding to it and it works. And they just keep piling into it.

And then there's the whole other season, which they'll probably have another season pass for that too. And it's great. And they're doing it free DLC, right? That was one of the things they were talking about today. And their thing is how Ubisoft like going forward doesn't want to charge for DLC. That's crucial to the game or critical to the game in terms of changing the experience. Yeah.

And have it more cosmetic and stuff. And there's just a bunch of like little things. Like they have a ranking system that's kind of like like, like, uh, which a lot of games have adopted, which is kind of like League of Legends where you like you play 10 matches, right? And then you place and then you, you get a rank and, and you climb up the, you know, the ranked ladder and see. you know, that nice competitive, like, feel to it. And they even, they even do little things like, you know, like last season I placed it in

platinum. So that means that I got a little platinum keychain that goes on my gun. Like it's something that's tangible, right? That everyone can see like, oh, this guy is a platinum player as opposed like this guy's a gold or anything like that. So it's just little things like Tim. Yeah. Is there a punk ass bitch metal?

Yeah, bronze. Oh, that would be me. Yeah. So it's like the embarrassment one. Yeah. Yeah. I have turned the game on once. My God.

So this, that sounds awesome. It sounds kind of like they adopted some of the fighting game mechanics. Like when it comes to Street Fighter, it's like the balance issue of just like all the different characters. And you mentioned league. So it's like similar to that. But do you think that the, do you find too many people using the same character? I'm not too familiar with Rovers 60. I don't know how this works.

But the classes like is it like Street Friday where you go on? There's like a million kens. I mean, you do have like the must picks, but it's. It's a type of thing where like even like with any game, right? Like there's tweaks and balances so they'll take a look and see like, oh, this operative or this character in any video game isn't used very well. Well, they're even do that with Overwatch, right? They're like right now they're tweaking Symmetra and I think in the public test servers

because like no one picks the metro, right? And they do the same thing with Siege. But it creates an interesting dynamic as opposed to like Halo where you just go in and you just play as opposed to like, oh snap, okay, like do we want to change things up and take um rook where now we all get armor and it takes more bullets to penetrate you know what mean or as opposed to like oh if we don't take this character then we're take like we get this other cool character that can see gadgets through walls but we risk not taking not not being able to take down their reinforced walls and so it adds this cool little dynamic in terms of like play

styles so i fucking love overwatch oh speaks to me because it's yeah that but as dumbed down as possible if you want to be you can you know get super into it and play hardcore but like it's just fun to play as the different characters and kind of see the different abilities and be able to find the different play styles how do you compare the two i i mean for overwatch is blizzard like pleasure like pleasure just does things right you know what i mean they they they came out with overwatch their their memorable characters it's got like this this this this moba type feel to it right or you were even even like I like how they they kind of like implemented this mobile feel and even baby step you like into it where it's just like oh you pick all your characters like oh you're not enough defense characters or not enough healers or not enough attack and I think Overwatch is a great job of being like fun to play with iconic characters but like hard to master like that game I play a lot of it but I'm not very good and it's just like wow I like that I can go in there and play and and do well but then at the same time like There's just so much to learn.

And I like, I just, I like what games are doing right now. We're like, they're adding more content, right? And having events. Having events and, and having more things. Like, with like, Overwatch specifically how now there's a 1v1. You know what I mean? I'm not paying for that. But now there's a new map with a 1v1.

There's events. I remember like, it's one of those things where I can come back to the games now. You know, there's a reason for me to come back. As opposed to usually I would just play something like Overwatch. I'm like, all right, cool. But now, oh, there is a Halloween event with a Halloween theme game mode. And they really went like full on through with it. Now there's like costumes and stuff like that.

This is the antithesis right of what happened with the original Titanfall. Yeah. Where you played the original Titanfall to death and then it just wasn't growing, right? There weren't making events out of things. No content. Exactly. So you leave and you don't come back to it. Or if you do, you're like, oh, where'd all this come from?

That's great, but they didn't make a thing of it. And that's what we keep talking about, you know, so often on these shows is games becoming platforms. And Overwatch ride is a platform. Siege is a platform. Division is a platform. These are shooters that are putting more and more things in there trying to get you motivated to stick around and be what destiny is done so well, right?

Where destiny is like even if you play every day for six months and then you go away, they want you to come back because you've already got the investment what you need. Yeah. It's very interesting to see how like different games in terms of level of success with that, right? So you got Overwatch and Siege, you've done well as, you know, as time has progressed. And then you get like games like Destiny, just keep hanging on there. And then you get games like Division, which I feel were just too ambitious. Because I saw the division.

I was like, oh my God, Destiny was my jam. Here's another like loot shooter. They've got this great content plan lined out like with multiple expansions and DOCs. And every time they dropped a new content, it was just glitched. That game was glitched out of its mind. Yeah. And it just worked against it. Right.

Even to the point where like they pushed back the current expansion that just released today, you know. But that game's in a good, it's interesting because not only can that sometimes backfire on people, but they could also bring it back, right? That gives them an opportunity. Sure. Because they dropped the 1.4 patch, which fixes the game. And now they have their new survival DLC, which changed, like, adds something like a lot more depth. So you know, I mean, you guys are familiar with H1Z1.

Yeah. Yeah. They essentially have that game mode now in the division, which has got every. Man Standing kind of thing? Yeah. Last Man Standing. Go in there, survive the cold, then get into the DZ and fight every. or fight everyone outside and it's got everyone going, hmm. Yeah. Well, that was the thing

Polygon just put out an article right in the last three weeks. Like, you know, why you should come back to the division. And it's the thing of like, you know, these were all my problems and they fixed them since then. And that actually had me go, huh. And then 15 other games came out and watchdogs is amazing. And I have last guardian on the horizon. Final Fantasy is coming. And there's this and I need to finish advanced warfare or infinite warfare still. Like, there's so much going on that it's so hard that, you know, division I was so into for that first whatever month, three weeks or whatever it was, where I was playing every night. I was so happy to hit that. I was so happy to keep going out. But as soon as I hit level cap and then it was like,

all right, now it's the gear treadmill. I looked in and I was like, oh, like, no, this isn't, I'm seeing how this happens and how I don't want to go, I was talking. I remember signing on one day and Ty Root was playing and it was him and Fran. I joined their party. And I'm like, so what's been happening? And I was like, oh, I've been running this same mission for like six hours to do. And I'm like, whoa, no, no, no. I don't want to do that again. And you think they'd learn because like when Destiny Vanilla was first out. It was too much of a grind. Yeah.

So I was sitting here thinking, okay, like the division seems like it's very closely following that type of like model with like destiny and I hope they, they get it. And it was just, yeah, that's the same thing that turned a lot of people off to destiny. Right. It was too much of a grind. It wasn't rewarding enough. Right. You'd go in, you'd play, play, play. And you'd like, you didn't have much to show for it.

Yeah. Yeah. It was. But they've turned it around. Yeah. Destiny has. Yeah. Destiny has a division.

Like I said, the past. patch is fixed that there's new content that everyone's liking it so far it's it's very interesting because before you'd have a game you'd either like it or not and then if you liked it if you didn't like it you just wouldn't play it right right if you like it's like all right cool I'll play the d oc but now it's one of those things where just you just kind of like sit in the wing sometimes there's like is it you know it's a new patch or there's a new d oc or it's something it's like is it good is it good yet or is like how's it changed is it worse do I come back to it so I just usually just sit here and go like okay like what updates coming out soon

I'm going to go check it out. Yeah. Maybe, you know, maybe it's changed things. Now I just give the games a bit of a doubt. Yeah. Yeah. It's cool having you on the show because you're, it's obviously,

I have way different perspective and you play a bunch of games that we don't play. Did you play Battleborn at all? But no. I didn't. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

It's just one of those things where I was just, it was a clear cut. Like, I was just so hyped and invested because, I mean, yeah, Blizzard and then they come out and they create all these, like, iconic characters.

And all of a sudden, like, They just, I was surrety. They nailed it. They nailed it with Overwatch. Yeah, it was great. Battleborn just happened. Yeah.

So moving on from, from those type of shooting games over to the more like the classic shooters. Battlefield, Titan Fall and Call of Duty. And Doom. Well, so yeah, what do you think about it? I don't really bring up Doom because Doom, Doom is more of single player. Oh, so you're just talking about once. I mean, it's, I guess, I don't know.

I don't really know what the difference is. Doom is so early in the year. And it is a different page. and it is a different vibe, right? All the games you just said, and to some extent are, we're realistic, you're some kind of military grunt, blah, blah, blah. Where is this our, you're the fucking super soldier in demon hellspace. Go fucking blast everything.

Overwatch is a good. It was a fun. I think it's more. Yeah, it was a fun campaign. I think more campaign plus multiplayer equal shooter game. But I mean, like, Doom, yeah, doom totally is. But I view Doom more similarly to the way I look at an uncharted. Wow, interesting.

It's more of a, it's a single player game that you're playing through. And like, it could have a multiplayer aspect to it. Yeah, I know. Yeah, it's got that arena. So it's uncharted. But it's like, I don't know. And again, I could be totally talking out of my ass here. But you're not playing competitive doom.

No. No. And I thought about starting playing competitive. You could be number one in the world pretty quick. Number one, but would it be worth it? I don't know. Would anyone care? There's one way to find out.

Patreon.com slash Alfredo plays. That plug. No, doom was great. I didn't I mean I love the single player I like a player played on console and the multiplayer didn't transition that well on a controller so I can't really speak to too much in terms of like multiplayer doom because PC that's where they had all the mons and that's where the community was for multiplayer as opposed to like you know call duty where that you know that multiplayer bases on console yeah but my god hold on going to modern warfare remaster did they mess that up on PC

it was just a mess. It seems like that happens a lot of PC games. Yeah, I dishonor was a best too. Okay, okay. I was enjoying Watch Talks too on PC. You know, it's just

Master Race. All right, we got the Hertz to get the customization. Oh yeah, we loves the tarflops and your fucking video drivers. It's great. It's fun times.

But yeah, no, just jumping over to Marvel for Remastered. I remember, like, I got a key off steam and then I couldn't play

with my friend who owned it on a window. like on the windows like game store they split that base up why how do you mess that up like the the player base for like you know i mean obviously you play that game on a console right i give credit what credits do but how do you how do you mess it up how do you cut that very small player base even thinner like by doing that i don't i don't even know but um i think in going going into like the shooters i think it's a great time for shooters right now i love that You, man, con multiplayer is just in a weird state right now.

I just don't feel like their, I feel like their identity is kind of lost. You know, I saw the multiplayer and I was like, what am I, am I watching like an arena shooter right now? I'm not quite sure what's happening. I like the single player. I thought single player was great. I was happy that even though a lot of people were upset that caught into space. I mean, you had remastered, right? So if you want that old school.

Battlefield is awesome. And man, do it. Like I think for me single player battlefield is my favorite single player shooter out of the like battlefield type is the only what I played but whole fuck it's good. It's really good and you would not see me say that like it was like oh battlefield four or hardline you know what I mean but here here came battlefield one with this amazing single player. Oh man I just feel like it's you you have your choices you have the tactical um rainbow you have overwatch which is just fun goofy with characters but you can get pretty serious in that too.

too. You got Battlefield, which is a great job of being a casual fun like shooter. And then, you know, if you're very, it's weird because back in the day, everyone was like, world war fatigue. But now we're like, give me the world war. Well, now they're getting sick of being futuristic. Yeah, right. It's a super opposite. And then I don't really compare it. A lot of people compare Titanfall and Cod's multiplayer, but it's different.

Like, you have a giant mech and the, the map sizes are different and the way it plays is different. But I think it's a great year. for shooters and just period. You know what I mean? Do you think that any of those three failed on either the single or multiplayer front? So instantly my mind jumps to infinite warfare multiplayer fails. But I think I've just come to realize that I'm a part of that like old school cod genre, right?

Where I just like, you know, I like cod the way it is. But obviously, cod still sells well. You know what I mean? They're still going to have the infinite warfare multiplayer tournaments. And I feel like that's because there's a new generation out there that loves the new age cod multiplayer. That just isn't me. So like instant I'm like, oh, Khan multiplayer, what the hell? Like I played the beta and I was like, no, not my jam.

But personally, I would say Infinite Warfare is multiplayer. They did a good job with remastered better than I thought they would. Battlefield's great. Titan Falls great. But yeah, that one. Even though it's still going to sell well and they're going to have tournaments and tons of kids are going to play it. It's going to have a huge player base still. Do you think all three

single players are worth playing? Yes. Yeah. I enjoyed Battlefield the most. I think they did a great job of like telling a story with like different characters. I cared about all of them. The pigeons. The war pigeons, man. You actually got to be a war pigeon. It was very touching. You go into cod single player.

That was a great. It's, you know what to expect. It's an action movie. Michael Bade, like, campaign. The thing about it for me is that, you know, I started Battlefield and then I started Cod and I'd beaten Titanfall single player. And so Battlefield, because it's segmented, I feel like I got the thrust of it. I'm not like anxious to get back to it. But when I beat, when I platinum watchdogs, the plan is to go back and finish off

infant warfare's campaign because it's like, it's still just in the middle of that story. Like, you know, I took the bookmark and put it in there and shut it. And I'm like, I actually want to get back because I did like those characters. Yeah. And I did think they were doing interesting stuff and I want to see what happens next. Yeah. I think they all did a really good job. Timefall, I wasn't as like hyped about campaign.

I mean, you guys, if you guys, you know, saw the review. Up top, Alfred. I wasn't hyped about it. You know, I sat there. I played. I went to the review. It's good. It's good.

But it's not like everyone's on, you know, social media. It's amazing. This is great. You got to play it. I just, I didn't connect emotionally the way I thought I would. I felt like I had a lot of issues with. pacing. It had great platforming segments, which just blew my mind. There's some levels

that in there that came out of nowhere, which was great. So it worked mechanically, but I just didn't care about the story or the characters or the war I was fighting. And I thought it was crazy. And then Colin and Greg were like, it's good, not great. I was like, oh, so now you're crazy, but you have friends. Yeah, I'm crazy with friends. I like that. Up high. I feel like Batman be Superman. Yeah. That's what I can see too. All right. Third topic of the day, brought to you, by Patreon supporter Aziz. Aziz, what else?

He says, what are your favorite game trailers this year? Has it been a better year than average for game trailers? Ooh, sounds like it was a bad year for game trailers.

Great year for Easy Allies. Patreon.com. So that's easy allies. I'm sorry, that was too easy. Recently with the Overwatch cinematic trailers, which all came out this year and the Final Fantasy 15

Omen trailer, I feel like this year in particular, game trailers have really stepped up their game and are much more impressive than normal. I know you guys don't care about Overwatch. I do. But do you think you could watch those trailers in the Final Fantasy 15 Omen trailer before the show?

Whatever. Okay. I've seen those shows. I've seen them too. What do you guys think? I'm trying to think that's the problem. Yeah. Trailers have gotten to such a point, right, where they're usually great.

Like, but I mean, like when I think of like, when you say best video game trailers, right? I'm like, I'm like, Mad World. Gears a War. You know what I mean? Like I'm not, I don't, I'm like trying to think of like, oh, well, what has been great this year? You know what I mean? Like, what has stood out of? above the rest and it's like.

See for me, I, the art of the video game trailer is something I appreciate the most about video games. I've said this many times. I love the hype. I'm a student of the hype. Oh yeah. And when it comes to E3 or to PSX or to any of these conventions where that people announce the games, like the trailer is the most important part of that because that's

how you announce the game. And I feel like we've went through kind of phases and eras when it comes to video game trailers. Like back in the day, it was just a video game trailer was. random cuts of gameplay without any music underneath it. And it was just, here, here's parts of the game. Yep. Period.

Then it kind of transitioned into more like, all right, we're going to kind of eight movie trailers, but it was movie trailers at the time. So we're getting the, in a world, blah, blah, blah. And you'd see these video game. Like, it was really text-based. Then we kind of moved into the era where it was just CG cutscenes. And that was it.

And you're not getting any gameplay at all. Yeah. And it was just like simulated gameplay. or whatever. Then we got to the point where we're getting a lot of licensed music in trailers. And that's when we start getting the Gears and War, Mad World.

Assassin's Creed. The Assassin's Creed revelations and that whole era where it's just like... The Assassin Creed pirate one, that Drake music over it. I was going to say, then we come to the dubstep era when everything was dumbstead. But there was like clear things

where everybody just does the same thing over and over. And then we hit a point where like live action trailers in the Halo three days were like really taken off. Metroid other M had an amazing one. And it was just like, here's a live action thing. But we're at a point now where that stuff used to be fucking awesome. And the CG stuff, the Star War, anything that blur does. Blur, yeah.

All the Star Wars, RP like MMOs. Those trailers are amazing. The Force and Leash trailers were amazing. And now we're at a point where it's like, if you show that stuff, you lose. You know, like having a full CG as beautiful as it is. shout out to Dishonor 2. That CG trailer is fucking awesome. But people look at that.

And they're like, I don't want this. We're at a point where the gameplay can and should speak for itself. 100%. So it's like the art of the trailer these days is really tricky because I feel like it's almost impossible to please anyone. Yeah. No,

you're 100% correct with that. The one I was digging around online. I remember that E3 trailer for We Happy Few. That was really good. But again, they showed some of the game and then gave you the trailer. Exactly. And it's the same thing where it's like,

does this Spider-Man? reveal teaser act as a trailer because there's CG in that and then there's that little segment that looks like gameplay but isn't who knows and I'd count that as a trailer but even that isn't like I wasn't like holy shit what a trailer I was like holy shit what an announcement fuck

I can't wait for this game and that's true that's true I think that when you think all time maybe not best trailers but just influential trailers like Dead Island oh yeah oh my God because Dead Island that's all of a sudden here's a game here's an announcement you wouldn't have cared about it could be in any type of press

release. No one would give a fuck about Dead Island. But because of that trailer, everyone was looking forward. Yeah, that was a new IP from developer and publisher at the time that nobody was like, I'm going to care about these people who are they. You know what does this mean? And then they put out the trailer. It was just fucking phenomenal. Yeah. So it's like to have that type of like, oh shit from a trailer is that's a huge accomplishment these days. And I think that when it comes to the, there's the flip side of that where like death stranding comes to mind, where it's just like, yeah, there was an answer. There was also a trailer, which gave us enough to speculate and be able to talk about and have a discussion about what could this be.

Sure. So it's like, I definitely think that that was one of the stronger trailers of the year. Having said that, it's a whole bunch of nothing. It's fluff. You know, but it's fluff that we can kind of.

Norman Redis is invisible baby in an umbilical cord. Weird thing is happening. But it's like six psychomantuses or whatever in the sky. Um, but again, like Kojima's master of trailers. He always has been. Uh,

like thinking of metal or solid, any, any metal year solid trailer really. Uh, but the, the trailers leading into four, 15 minute long trailers were fucking great. And in five, every single metal your solid five trailer made you go, this is a real

video game? Yeah. Like that's insane. Yeah. But I think this E3 had a lot of things like that Spider-Man moment that were kind of like, oh, this is, this is cool, but it's more of the announcement. Like, and Death Stranding kind of falls into that as well. 100%. It was the shock that they had it, right? That was what happened. But thinking of E3 trailers, because E3 is when we get the most trailers, I think Detroit become human was the one that did the most for me in the sense of I didn't give a fuck about this. Now I do. What was the,

it was the one with the guy, it was all cut from the demo of them on the rooftop. Yeah. And showing different ways that things could play out with, see, like when I think in Detroit, I think about the one where, first off,

obviously the Kara short film or whatever, but then the one even where it is her just walking and she like turns around and all the other AIs are noticing as she goes. And then she's like, my name's Cara or whatever. And yeah, blah,

blah, blah. Yeah. Another, but yeah, that sold me on the game that I wasn't sold on. So, kudos to them.

Also at E3, man, the Sony press conference, they really, they killed it. Resident Evil 7. That was one where that trailer was happening. And as it was happening, it wasn't a great trailer because people kind of didn't care.

But I feel like towards the end of it, everyone's like, wait, but what is this? And that's another good thing for if you're going to, even if it is a cheap, it's an announcement. So you got that like cheap pop there. It was fucking Resident Evil 7 and no one saw that coming until the title came up. And that is crazy.

I mean, similarly, I guess it overlooked all the time because it was the weird tease that then led to the giant demo at the end. But days gone, initial trailer before we knew it was about the freakers or the tweakers, whatever they are, zombies. When it was just, you know, Sam Witt were talking about the, you know, losing this girl and how everything's changed.

I was into that. I was interested in that. And I thought that was a really interesting note for that because it did leave us with a lot of questions. But then when you saw the gameplay, you're like, oh, it's just zombies. Yeah. That, that it didn't mesh with what they had built, I thought. So I think I'm kind of torn on was I remember like back during the day when the announcements

were really during the press conference. And you're like, oh my goodness, what is this? And the trailer would pop up and maybe get gameplay on top of that. But how do you guys feel like now with sometimes you'll kind of get the teaser or like the game will be announced like a week or two before E3? But then you most likely get the game demo during E3. Are you for that? I mean, I think it's just things have changed. Like we're just at a point now where it's a race to get news.

You know, it's like it's about getting headline. It's like, don't want to be cluttered with all the E3 news. It's like, yeah, it's like at E3, how why would people care about? talking about, um, I'm trying to give an example, but gears, gears four.

Why would they care about that? When Kojima came out and talked about death strength. You know what I mean? It's just like gears four is the fourth game. Cool. You know, we get it. So it's like them talking about that early.

It's almost like a, uh, Hey, we don't want to be included in the 15 coolest things from Sony's press conference. We want you just to put up this trailer. Because then, because at the press conference,

when they do the demo like you're talking about, right? Then it speaks to the audience that cares about this. Like that god of war demo was awesome. Oh God. Yeah, that was the whole thing is like that had been teased to an extent.

For everybody. Yeah, yeah. But the trailers that stand out to me this year, you nailed it there. The Final Fantasy 15 Omen trailer. That was a trailer. It's fully CG, so it is totally just cheating and it's like a trailer

representative of a bygone era, but so was Final Fantasy 15 at this point. But I saw that trailer and I'm like, I need to show Kevin this. This is going to make Kevin want to play this game. This is fucking awesome. And I think that that, That is the high five guys. You did it and the other trailers this year that did that for me were

Battlefield 1 the there was a trailer the single player campaigned. Yeah. Yeah. I saw that and I mean it made me play the game. Why did I play that battlefield? You know I'm not a guy that would do that that that trailer made me play the game and I'm like good job. I think that's my trailer of the year for sure. I like that it looked amazing then you played it and it still looked amazing I got the experience. Do you remember the siege demo that they had which wasn't really a demo was more just like a video and They made Cs look absolutely great, and then the game came out. It didn't look nothing. No, I don't know.

But I mean, that was the other thing. Like back in the day, Killzone 2, seeing trailers for that. And it's just like, that's what I was talking about where it was like CG representing gameplay. And it's like, I'm happy we're not there anymore. Yeah. But yeah, so the Fawn Fantasy 15 trailer was great. Battlefield was great. All the Overwatch, like, animated shorts.

Did those count trailers? I mean, he's counting on his trailers. I don't think so. I think that they're more supplemental marketing. But, I mean, they're fucking great. They're great. And they definitely did a great job of selling the game world. Yep.

And they're still coming out and they're still awesome. They just had Blitzcon. They had Sumbra. Like her announcement was with one of those little like CG like stories. And it was awesome. Oh yeah. Somer was great. The trailer of E3 for me though, South Park fractured butthals.

So good. That trailer to me represents the best of what South Park has to offer, which is super quick. smart humor that's commentary on something happening. And that commentary happens to be about superhero movies. Yeah. And it was just like so they nailed the niche that they're going for. They spoke directly to us as gamers making jokes about E3 demos and they just, they couldn't

have done better with that trailer. And they made that game that everybody already knows is going to be great. They're just like, oh, wait, but here's why it's going to be great. So that's what a good trailer does. Um, what other trailers you remember? Like old school ones that are like old school ones. I mean, Halo 2 when you just have that like reveal of chief, like you just, the, the desert and you just hear Cortana. That was three.

That was three. Yeah. That was three. That was three. That was three. Was the, I need a weapon. Yes. And that was cool because that was in theaters.

And I was like, why is this on a giant screen of movie theater? And I'm the only one that cares about this right now. But it is awesome. Um, yes, that was two. And yeah, the one was talking about was three. That one, to me, it was so, I watched that trailer every single day for six months because I was so hyped about that. This is the way they set it up was great.

Yeah. Which is you don't see him. You don't see him. And he comes into focus. Yeah. And then he does the fucking jump. There's the bubble shield. The music kicks it.

And then that bubble. Oh my goodness. I was like, what is that? Let me, give me have it now. Yeah. Oh, so fucking good. And then Halo three, like later, the later trailers were great for it, too. when they did that whole

the diorama. The diorama one. And yeah, hours ago. That was going to memorial, I think it was called. That was breaking my heart because I remember seeing that.

And then you're just used to Chief being such a badass. And then you see, um, it wasn't the, the brutes. You saw that like one of the like, I think there was a chiefs than brute. He was like holding up Chief.

And Chief is just there dangling like this. And it was like, oh my God, are they going to kill Master Chief? He looks like when people care. Yeah. Right. And you had the grenade.

He looks like, up and it's just like believe or something like that I was like and then there was the starry night trailer for Hilo3 where that was the CG they did a really good with the little kids in the field yeah oh I remember that one was good yeah when I think of them you're talking about you hit on it right whenever Blur did something and this is back in the day now when it go as well but I mean remember when that DC Universe online trailer for trailer came which was it turned out just the opening cinematic of the game but when it starts and everybody's getting killed and you're seeing superheroes get murdered and shit. And everybody's like, what the fuck is there? I mean, that and the Star Wars older public.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fucking good Lord. When the thing comes down, it's like a million red lightsabers turn out. Oh, it's just chills. Yeah. So freaking great. Yeah, I actually wanted to play DC Universe online. And then I was like, oh, it's, oh, it's like, ah, it's not my kind of game. But the trailer made me want to invest it into at least looking into it. Totally. And that's why it worked out so well, right, is that they did that and they did that. Not doing it wrong. Not everybody stuck around, but enough people did that. I remember when that game came out, they were like, we didn't print enough copies. Sorry everybody. Like, we're working on it. Yeah. People were all over it. Oh, man, that's so

funny. Other notes I have, Left for Dead. I remember the Left for Dead one trailer. I don't remember it. It, it's just, it was just a trailer for the game and it was CG and stuff. But what I really appreciate about it, especially in hindsight, is more so than I think any trailer I've ever seen that was a CG trailer, they nailed what that game was. Everything they showed in that trailer, you could do in the game and happen in the game. And it felt like it did in that trailer. Unlike Star Wars or DC Universe Online, where you watch this awesome thing

and then the gameplay is not that. With Leferredad, they just kind of took the fun elements of things that actually happening in gameplay and made a video out of it. I remember seeing that and I was like, this looks awesome. I hope I can play it the way I think it is.

And the game came out and you're like, oh my goodness, I finally get to be that person that's like trying to survive a zombie horde coming at me. And then it was a great game. And then you had just you guys remember the risen evil one where they try to have that as a raccoon city. Oh yeah. Yeah. And I was like ooh and it was just bad. I mean you're talking about the best trailers just all time. I mean you have to put the last of us up there. Yeah. That reveal. That was

fucking awesome. Yeah. It was you remember that time period right. It's right after the uncharted had come out. What was uncharted three right? Yeah. Uncharted three had come out and uh, it was like in what a few months and everyone's in that. Then when that naughty dog logo hit the game was like what? What's happening? They broke in two teams, one. And then it's just like completely different, totally dark dystopian thing. That was great. Everybody's like, he's at Ellen Page.

Yeah. Yeah. Everyone. GTA. Gotta give a shout at GTA. GTA and Zelda. Those are two game series that like every time they put a trailer out, at least majority of times, like those are really special.

The thing about it for GTA in particular is those are always moments in time. I remember every time GTA five dropped something new being totally. to it. And I remember that Stevie Wonder songs that they played that superstitious or wasn't not superstitious. Anyways. Uh, uh, no, I think it was a, uh, it's a lot. Oh, getting ready to go. Hip hop, no. No. It's though. Anyways, it's lies for sure. It's about lies. Anyways, that was a great song and I remember that trailer being really important, but I don't remember any, really what happens in it anymore. I remember Trevor fucking around a lot. But that's also just playing the game. Yeah. But it just sets the.

world up right. I remember how hyped and how well just screenshots did for it. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Two screenshots. And it was like, oh my God. Yeah. But I mean, even the Vice City trailer was like we were just talking about a couple of days ago with the flock of seagulls. That was fantastic. And then San San Andreas with the welcome to the jungle. Yep. That trailer was like, God damn. Get the hell out of here. You're too good. All right. Final topic of the day. Brought to you by you as always. You can go. Skeletons. Stevie Wonder skeletons. Everybody from last topics. You can go to kind of funny.com slash gamescast topic to leave a question.

But our boy, Ysir Mattauer, he supported us on Patreon. So we're going to read his question. Get it. A topic that is only kind of video game related. Have you guys ever had problems with a girlfriend who did not like you spending so much time playing games? If yes, how did you deal with it? Or does the fact that it's part of your jobs put an end to the discussion? Just curious.

I feel like this was a very apt thing to have with my good friend Alfredo Diaz here. Because I just want to say I was the girlfriend in this situation. Alphrates out here playing Counterstrike, playing Splitter Cell, leaving me in the dust. You have to hang out this Kevin Coelho. I had fucking hang out with Kevin. Yeah. Man, there's, I mean, I've had many relationships. Some didn't even affect them on all.

Others, definitely. And one of my more, well, I mean, I'm not with Jackie. It's great because she games and that's just freaking awesome. mean big plays Jackie Butler. Big plays Butler. But man, like five years ago, I was in a long-term relationship. And those are the times where I was, I had my 9 to 5 at IGN. And then I came home and I was like two, three years ago.

And I started doing Twitch. And she was just like, you spent all this time playing video games. And now you come home. And all you do is play video games for everyone else. And just didn't make any sense to her. And then on top of that. I was like, look, this could be something that I could be doing as a full-time job one day. And she was like, that's not going to be a full-time thing.

No one's going to watch you play video games and not going to get paid that much for it. In your face. In her face. Luckily, though, eventually she was not, she was like a really casual candy crush on that kind of stuff. I tried getting her into video games. And we're only enough Diablo. Ah. Yeah.

Just the whole loot. Yeah. Yeah. That clicked first. She played videos a little bit. Understood it. But it was a constant, even then it was a constant struggle of you're not spending enough time with me.

I've never had it in terms of, yeah, you're playing too much. It was, or it's the ones I think of, right, are with an ex-girlfriend. I remember, she didn't mind me playing games all the time like I was. But it was like we went to her house, her parents house for Christmas or some holiday, right? And we were sitting around for days at a time.

And she, I was playing, she had a conversation like, my parents think you're playing your PSP too much. And I'm like, all we're doing is sitting around watching TV. Like, I don't like any of the shows they're watching. And we're not talking. It's not like I'm missing conversations.

That's my entertainment avenue. And you need to explain that to them. And they did. And that was fine. You know what I mean? Once there was a conversation about what it meant. And then I guess with other relationships, there's been maybe, you know, I'm a binge gamer. Like, oh, cool.

I have a free day. That's all I'm fucking doing because I don't know what I'm going to get to play this again. And that can be weird for people. Yeah. But I can relate to that because going back to that same relationship whenever I went over to her family's house, she had a younger brother and he was only allowed to play for about half an hour a day. And here I am doing that full time. So to them, there was just like what, you know, you're with this person who his job is to play video games

and talk about video games. And then he wants to full time just play live for other people. So not only did that not resonate with like her very well, but even with her family. Sure. But that was the most extreme situation. Most of my relationships have just been more, you know, I'm playing games. Cool. She's doing her own thing. But there wasn't that like connection like I have at this relationship where I'm playing. And then I'm like, oh, I got to make room for my girlfriend.

But it was a good type. It's a good type of thing. It's like with Jack. It's like, oh, like hell yeah. I'm kicking like the weakest person in the squad bringing in big plays. They play. I'm going to go to fucking dinner at 3 a.m. You guys are the weirdest schedules I've ever seen.

It's the sweet. I wake up to look at Twitter. Twitter like things you've missed. It's like night owls, Jackie and Alfred. Love it. Not do more though. Not with school. or everything.

It's just kind of fair. Yeah. I've been, I mean, I'm trying to think of any time our relationship's ever gotten in the way

of my gaming or gaming's ever gotten the way of my relationship. And I don't think it ever has. I think for me, the, in the most indirect way

is that my job is so video game focused and my job gets in the way constantly. So sometimes I think video games get the brunt of it and they get blamed. Mm-hmm.

And I'm always like, don't be hitting on video games. They didn't do anything to you. But yeah, I feel like with all my relationships, they've kind of just got it. They understood that it's my thing. I enjoy it the way I do. But I'm also, I binge games when I play games and I don't play that often. You know, it's like when I get in something, I'm going to be super into it. Otherwise, I'll play through the campaign and be done.

And I'm not, I'm not like you. I'm not multiplayer, like, going crazy. I think Smash Bros is the one thing that I consistently will always play. Or Overwatch, like, I'll pop in once. Yeah, and you play casually. just for a little bit. Once or twice a week and I'll play a couple rounds

and I'm good. But Smash Bros is a thing where it's like anytime me and current have some free time we're just like it's fucking go. When we get our switches.

Yes. Are we gonna play Smash at the end of every day? You wanna pick up some Smash? Oh, I'd love that. I'd fucking love that. I fucked up. Last topic,

Nintendo Switch trailer. That's definitely something I want to get a shout out to where they did such a good job of showing what that device is and why you should care. Sorry. But yeah,

I mean, I think that you just, You got to communicate. It's all about, you know, love and sex stuff. Every Monday, 9 a.m. except for now right now. But yeah, no, it's. I think there's a lot of pros and cons.

Like Kevin. I know, like with Jack, it's like, sounds amazing that I have this, this girlfriend that hardcore games. But at the same time, I've never gotten to a fight with a girlfriend off of like, you know, directions, callouts in a video game before. That's hell funny. That's something that we're, her and I get into.

Sometimes we'll get to arguments about callouts of how a certain situation played out. So that's an interesting experience But also I want to just say that you don't have to Like if you're a hardcore gamer You don't have to you know Don't feel like I'm not gonna really connect with a girl unless she's a girl gamer I've connected you know you can connect with someone who's not a video game Absolutely yeah

Alfred is connected with a lot of women he has but he's also connected a lot of video games He gave me in trouble Greg I didn't get in trouble Cheating on me with the fucking counter strike I'll never forgive you for that Gerardo Martinez says with Activision seemingly going more futuristic with each call of duty to should they follow the success of EA's Battlefield 1 by tackling an older time period

or one with a modern setting. Yes. I think for at least a next handful of called duties, they're flying like doing their own thing, which is releasing the futuristic one, but then also like maybe Marvel if remastered too. No way. You got to start that.

You got to come back now. Because you've got you finally, it was a joke forever that was going to be call duty in space. And now call it duties in space. So now you've got to come back. And this is, I think, one of the things they have the benefit of with the multiple studios, right? Like it's, uh, Infinity Ward now, Sledgehammer next, then Trey Arc, right?

Like, cool. The we, we, you know, the Black Ops storyline's gone and done its whole thing. I'm assuming they probably want to keep that going. Black Ops three will be. Yeah. The Trey Arc's next one. What sledge is going to do? Who knows?

I mean, what was there as advanced warfare? Yeah. What was the Kevin Spacey one? They did the Kevin Spacey one? Advanced Warfighter? Advanced warfare. Warfare. And I'm right that that was them right there.

Or do they go. Ghosts. Who did ghosts? It doesn't matter. This is where Colin would be helpful. Infinity War did ghosts. They did? Okay.

So there you go. So then Sledgehammer comes around. I don't think you can keep going into the future. And I think that even, I think present seems like a weird step backwards. Whereas if you can now start alternating where it's like, okay, cool. So we go future, you know, infinite warfare is in the far flung future. Now we're going to go back to the past and do something because they've probably seen the success. I shouldn't say that, actually.

That would be bad. They've seen the success battlefield one would have. So I'm sure that makes them feel really good about their decisions. They would have made two to three years ago because that's not like they're, you know, going to make this game in nine months or whatever. And then you go and then you can have something more modern kind of because that's, that was black ops thing, right?

Where it was the, uh, exoskeleton was black ops too. And it was like kind of still in our time period, but a little bit more advanced. Yeah. Black ops three with exosuits and stuff like that. But I don't know.

Maybe just, I know I definitely, I mean, for them to go back in time and just do like what battlefield did, think would be like a smart thing in terms of just like how everyone would take it but I still think they sold they sold that game really well there's so many people that just bought call of duty like the just to play remastered sure they spent way more money than they wanted to just because they wanted that experience and it was one of those things where they got the campaign they got the remastered

and then just the futuristic one is there to service that generation or like the people that want that like to see them just go back and then and just have that. Dinosaurs. Yeah. Way prehistoric like far cry. Call a duty primal. Well, I mean, I don't know. I'll see.

Yeah. You think they sold. I mean, it seemed like they sold really well. It's what I think the numbers are softer they said in terms of it. But I mean like whatever. It's not like a huge drop off. But it is that thing. I don't know how much.

I know the remaster did really well this year, but how many remasters do you have up your sleeve, right? Like I feel like you could start seeding these out, these studios to do different things where it's like, All right, cool. So Infinity Awards doing the far-flung future. Sledge will do past stuff. And then we'll have the more contemporary stuff from Trey Arc.

Yeah. Be smart to split up that way. And they'll just keep alternating to keep it fresh. Jojo. So say, Fredo, you stuck for Halo Wars too? Ooh, that's a game that, again, I'll just sit back and watch. Like, real-time strategy. It's not like that.

Your brother got real into him. My younger brother got really into it. And I mean, I'll give it a try because that's, you know, how it goes of being like a variety streamer. You give everything a try that's like new that day. So I give it a try, maybe I'll get into a little bit more with a mouse and keyboard. But I did StarCraft like six years ago. And it was cool.

But it wasn't my thing. I'd rather just watch people that are good at that game, play that game, you know. Same thing with like me and like Counterstrike. I like Counterstrike on PC and it's fun. But I rather just watch really good. good people and other people would rather watch really good people play that kind of game. Joe Naju says could a hula dancing VR game using move controls be the future of gaming? No, very small market.

Just you know what you mean? Would you be the top of the leaderboard? You think you still got it? At least in the US region. Uh-huh. Yeah. That includes Hawaii. Yeah, that's true.

That is very true. But I feel like our practice, we might step it up a bit. I mean, I'll wrap the kind of funny song. Thank you. Thank you. You know what I mean? I love it. I love it.

I love it. Oh, man. My mom is texting me nonstop right now because she has a very angry comcast employee there who, like, why is he angry? Like, you should be the one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I don't, wow. Your mom called me a week ago just to double check that all's my number.

Left the message and everything. She's sweet. That's my mom for you. Justin Pruitt says, Hey, Alfredo. How do you feel about guys? getting hundreds of adults re-addicted to Pokemon cards. Ooh, that was fun.

That was great. Yeah, no, because like they, in a nutshell, what happened? Um, so essentially, like Pokemon had, uh, a,

a series, which now they haven't even, an even better series, but they had a series where some of the cards were like the old school Pokemon cards, like first gym, like back in there. It was like,

oh my God. Yeah. It was generations. Um, that's what the series was called. So I was like, oh my goodness, this is awesome.

And it's one of those things. It's always fun. Even though it's expensive. It's always fun to collect something. I used to do HeroClix. Fuck yeah, HeroClix. It's amazing. So good.

Gets confusing with the rules sometimes. Lots of fights turns like what angle is what. HeroClix is where I fell in love with Guardians of the Galaxy. Really? Yeah. There's a dude named group that's a fighting tree. I'm like, I'm sold. Squirrel God too.

Well, yeah, squirrel are a counter. He had the weirdest team. They had a bunch of all I got Sinestro and I'm like, I had a white lantern too. All right. We had Flas like Batman, everything. Like we're sold. Um, still my super boy. Yeah, I'm a mantle there.

There you go. Um, but going back to, Pokemon cards. Oh yeah, Pokemon cards. Yeah. Generations had some of the old school ones. I was like, oh,

this is a great time to get back into Pokemon. So I, I got some did a couple of inboxings on the YouTube channel. Um, and just started posting about, about him and everyone's like, yo, dude, what, you know,

where'd you get these? All of a sudden, everyone is like back into it. Very happy, but very upset because they're spreading money again. And, uh, now it was a good time. Because even that kind of funny live, I traded some cards with some of the family.

Oh, there's nothing that makes me heavier than that. It's so good. Yeah, I felt a little dorky that bringing, you know, my sleeves. I have my, I have that collection of my hollows and everything. It's weird now. There's like full hollow cards and like textured hollow cards. The Pokemon, which is popping out of the picture. It was awkward, but then I was like, oh, I'm kind of digging it now.

Yeah. But apparently the latest set has the actual like OG cards, OG cards, but with different stats. Yeah. So like Charzard. now he has 150 HP. Yeah, so now they're like playable in the current competitive meta. And I was like, ooh.

So did you guys get re-addicted to the card game because of Pokemon Go? No. No, we're just re-addicted to the card game because I just saw that, you know, their Pokemon cards and they had some of the OG ones because, you know, during that time period, I was just like, okay, I've played Pokemon. I've played a ton of it, but I've kind of, I've really fallen off. And like, I don't, there's like, how much, 700 now? You play in Sun and Moon?

Do you have a 3DS? I do have a 3DS. I do plan on picking up Sun and Moon. I'm Sun, Jackie forced me and she was like, I'm picking moon and you're going Sun. And I was like, damn. Damn, son. Damn, got to pick and choose your battles there, Greg.

But yeah, no. Digital. Going back real quick. Man, is it really fun that going to a comic book shop and seeing what cards they have and filling out your collection? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That glass thing. Yeah, that's good. Good times. $35.

Yeah, picking up a comic book. and then you go. Digital obesity. Favorite gaming snacks. People ask this all the time. Yeah. It's such a weird question. I don't associate snacks and gaming in a way.

This is a gaming snack. For me, it's always the thing of if I'm going to eat, I'm going to stop playing the game. You know what I mean? Like take a break, put on Netflix or whatever. And I know that's a meal, but I guess I just don't snack that much. I don't graze as they say. That's how you really enjoy your meal. I think for me, there's a lot of times I get caught off guard and I'll be like,

I'll jump on and be like, oh, snap. I got a stream right now. And I'll jump on. I'm like, ooh, I haven't eaten like four hours in. So I'll have to just, you know, put something together. For me, anything that's good for in terms of snacking while playing video games, I'm a neat freak. So it can't be something that I have to put my hands on.

I have to be able to stab at it with a fork. Or you put your cereal in a plastic cup and you eat it like a horse. Like a horse does. I do that with the hot Cheetos. I put in a soup cup. Yeah. Yeah. A little bit bigger.

Take the Cheetos bag. If it was like a normal side, you know, you get to fill it up a million times. No, no, no, like those Shakespeare's cups. I use the plastic ones.

You can push it in the size of your mouth. It's great. Oh, man. I'll show you some things. Next gen. Yeah. Daniel Perez. Daniel.

Alfredo. How's your Twitch channel doing? Good. Yeah. We're just hitting different sub milestones, especially with Twitch Prime that was announced and that Twitch Friday has been awesome.

But, no, it's been a good time. We've been playing just a bunch of different games right now. were just stuck on siege because, you know, the competitive season. But it's, it's really interesting.

I know there's, there's definitely a lot of people, and this is this thing with like Twitch or like people will jump on and be like, oh man, like, you're only getting 100 viewers. Like you, you tanked. Like you've made a terrible decision, like leaving IGN or whatever. But I don't know. We have like a weird, it's a weird channel where since I play a variety of games, depending on what I'm playing is the different like. subs that I have coming in, right? And then I also have such huge support from the kind of funny family

where, you know, depending on what I'm doing, they're, you know, they'll jump in too. And so even though I'll get maybe, I don't know, 200 during Destiny or maybe 100 during Rainbow, I'll have like 500 plus subs. So it's very interesting. But no, Deutsche's just been awesome. That's awesome. Yeah. And everybody go subscribe. Subscribe to which TV slash Alfredo plays. Yeah. It's fun times. Right. Yes. Okay. We ditch the the, the on everything. Yeah, we did. Finally. Everything. Everything. Yeah, even on Twitter. What? Oh, that happened forever ago.

Well, you keep up. That happened a while ago. Well, congratulations. Yeah, it's just awesome people. Like, it's so interesting the number of people you meet. I know a couple people that watch me that are, uh, that play, uh, that play in the MLB. And I had one random guy. I was like, hey, I can get that taken out for you.

And I'm like, this sounds sketchy as fuck. Like send me a blank check. Yeah. To verify you're out for that. And then he was like, no, man, man, just, uh, let me know when you, when you're ready to change it. And then I was like, ready. and he just swapped it over. And I was like, whoa.

That's awesome. I even have someone who's like doing a whole like overhaul in terms of like getting a whole logo and like merchandise. For you? Yeah. That's awesome. So this is a the final. Final question for the day kind of jumps off of that.

Cappy Cool wants to know. I'd like to hear a discussion about meeting online friends in real life. Oh, it's always a good time. I don't know. From my experiences is always a good time. because it's usually people, especially when it comes to, like, Twitch, it's usually people that you've talked to a million times. So it's one of those things that I realize as long as I'm just, you know,

showing that the door is wide open, then they're just totally on the same page, right? Their energy, depending where my energy level is at, that's where they're at with me. Yeah. Yeah. And I see that a lot with just any event or like kind of funny in general. Sure. people come up and be like, yo, what's up dude? Hey, Alfredo. Like, I love your stuff. I'm like, oh man, like, you know, like what's your username? Like, what have you seen?

All that kind of stuff. Like, thank you so much. And then tell you. And I'm like, so many times like, oh my God. Like, I can't, that's you like, really. That's what I was. It drives me crazy when people talk to us and then bounce and then they'll tweet us that they saw us. And I'm like, oh, shit, you're this guy. Yeah. You're the Doug funny picture. Yeah, I know who you are. Why do you say that. Yeah, he knows that now. Yeah. He knows that. He knows to say that every time we run each other. But yeah, that's the nice thing about us being, you know, this small family now, right? And I have the best friends moniker that I throw around is the truth of like, you know, we used to, you know,

you used to sponsor us on Patreon. You came to my house. You walked into my house and like, this is where I live. You know where I live and now. Please don't send stuff. You know, I mean, but you never worried about it because every person I've ever met who's a big enough fan to come to a meet and greet or want to meet us or whatever is totally chilling cool. They're to meet us. Yeah. And hang out with each other. Just be a community, which is the coolest thing. Like I, I have the online communities I've been a part of their most music focus. but like I have friends that I've met all my and whatever. But you were kind of the first person that introduced me to this world

because back in the day when you did all those clan matches and stuff, you would have all these friends and you would talk about them as if in the same way you would talk about me. Yeah. But like these are guys that you, they were from Florida that you've never met. Like I forgot their names now. But like. Yeah, Mike and Kevin. Mike.

Well, Kevin. Kevin we actually hung out with because he lived in L.A. So he was he hung out with us during the first E3 we ever went to. We went to E3. We stayed at his friend Kevin's house who we just knew from the internet. Yeah. We even stayed at his house. And this is someone like, this is the first time meeting him, but he was a friend during those, you know, the CS competitive, well, console competitive.

But like, competitive days. And then like, and then like we still stayed in touch, right? And it was through social media and everything like that. And so, um, we stayed at his house and we hung out with him that whole entire week. And it wasn't awkward whatsoever. Yeah. And that's, that's the beauty of it. Even Tim.

Even Tim, not being awkward. Yeah, even Tim were like, you never even talked to him. You heard so much about him. He's heard so much about you. We were just like, oh, yo, dude, what up. Yeah, and I think that that's really what it comes down to is, well, we obviously like similar things. So it's like, oh, there's that jumping off point. Like, Kevin and I were watching something, a couple of Daisy Gar.

It was a YouTube video. I think it was Captain Christian, who's one of the best YouTubers of all times. So I'm going to credit him anyways. And he was talking about how, you know, people go on dates, like their first dates to movies because it gives you something to talk about. Like something that both of you have the shared experience that you can now talk about this movie. And it's like, damn, that's such a good point. that I never really considered.

And I think that with us and with a lot of the best friends out there, it's like, we all have video games. We all have something to talk about or the content that we make or whatever it is. Like there is inherently something to talk about. And a couple days ago, I had a great experience where, I think it was yesterday maybe, I went to Best Buy by myself for the first time in years, usually me and Kevin. It was two days ago. Way to drop the ball on that, Kevin.

Man, we spent hours at Best Buy. Yeah, right? Kevin was really pissed that. It was the last bit of decision. I decided I'm going to go look at TVs. Font Fantasy 15's coming out By yourself? Wait to let them down, Keff.

Lots going on. Lots going on. So I need to look at TVs and so I'm standing there and I'm just doing the thing where I'm like staring at this TV for a while staring at that TV for a while trying to figure out the black levels.

Does this matter? You know that don't work. But I know, but still I'm trying to make some big decision. But we still go there. We still go there. We still go to like, do I go OLED or do I go with the Samsung that has better input lag for gaming and all this shit?

So I'm trying to figure out. figure out all this shit. And as I'm looking at this thing, this guy walks up to me out of nowhere. And he just goes, Tim. And I like, without even looking at him, I was like, what's up, dude? And like, he just comes and I just knew that he was somebody that I didn't know. No, no, but he knew. But I was like, he knew who I was. And I was like, cool. And I looked at him. And immediately, I was like, oh, I've seen this guy before. Like, he was like, he was like, oh, I've seen this guy before. Like, he was like, he was like, he was like, oh, I've seen this guy before. Like, he was like, he was like, final fantasy 15? Yeah. And I was like, yeah. He was like, yeah, I watched the, saw you on calling a Greg Live earlier that day talking about it.

He's like, yeah, I'm looking for a TV too. And I was just like, yeah. And I was like, yeah, I'm looking between this one and this one, but I'm thinking about buying this, returning it and blah, blah, blah, giving this whole CES is January. I want to wait for the new ones. He's like, man, you're just scheming in real life. But it was cool because it was just like, here's a dude that I mean, I've met before it, but like, I've never hung out with.

I don't really know him. But without even thinking about it, we just had a conversation that I would have with Alfredo. showed how replaceable Kevin really is. Absolutely. But I just thought it was a really cool moment even for me where I'm just like, man, like we have something fucking so special. Yeah.

I think it helps is that everyone's so plugged into like social media and like when you do game, you're usually playing and talking to it with other people. And the Twitch chat is a game changer because all of a sudden you are directly interacting. You can say something. People say something back. You can say something back. And then they say something back. It's not like YouTube comments.

YouTube colleagues. Right. What it's like, I did something you responded. Maybe I responded your response, but I'm never going to see your response to that response. Yeah, it's crazy because like you guys will be doing your thing or like even when I'm

stream, I'm doing my thing and they'll have their own conversations. I'll sometimes look in them like, what are you guys talking about? You guys are going ham on these Pokemon sun and moon stats right now. I'm not even playing Pokemon, but you respect it. Yeah.

Yeah, it's great. It's wonderful. I respect you, Alfredo. I love you guys. Thank you very much for joining us. Everybody go follow Alfredo. Ad Alfredo plays everywhere.

YouTube, Twitch, Twitter, Instagram. For having me because I know it's kind of like a stranger just coming in here talking about your family. Shut up. You fan. You hashtag fan. I'm happy we had you for this episode, though. I thank everyone.

We tried playing your strengths. Thank you guys so much with the shooters. Yeah. Yeah, because before you guys had me on talking about PlayStation stuff. But now I mean, now that I own the console and I play and everything, before it's like PlayStation stuff and like talk about the publishers. I'm like, man, this is not my, you're talking Xbox. I got you.

But yeah, no, it's great. It's great to be on here talking about what I'm passionate about. You're welcome. Anytime, my friend. Until next time. I love you.