Kinda Funny Gamescast: Video Game Podcast - Andy's Demon's Souls Impressions - Kinda Funny Gamescast Ep. 51

Episode Date: November 26, 2020

Snowbike Mike and Andy Cortez join us to talk Fuser, Master Chief Collection, NBA 2K21, Demon's Souls, and more! Time Stamps - 00:05:00 - Fortnite 00:12:00 - Worm Jazz 00:14:10 - Demon Souls 00:34:1...0 - SnowBike Mike’s PS5 Thoughts 00:38:50 - NBA 2K 00:53:40 - Bright Memory 01:00:40 - Halo Master Chief Collection Optimized 01:04:22 - Fuser Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:07 What's up guys. Welcome back to the Kind of Funny Games cast. As always, I'm Tim Geddes. Join by one of the coolest dudes in video games, Greg Miller. How gross is it to think you're getting a bathtub full of peanut butter? That sounds horrible. I'm kind of into it, dude. You would be, you fucking weird.
Starting point is 00:00:23 I think it would be hard to breathe. Hard to breathe. I don't want to submerge your face. That's not a good call. No, no, no. Just your body, like your chest, all that peanut butter pushing down on you. It would be hard to breathe. See, this is one of the few times.
Starting point is 00:00:35 I'd prefer the smooth peanut butter. Speaking of some smooth peanut butter, we have the new face of video games blessing at Ayo Ye Jr. I like it crunchy. Yeah, I do too, right? Yeah, it's hard. It's not as smooth of a spread, obviously, on the bread. It kind of fucks up the bread a little bit. Yeah, it fucks the bread up real bad.
Starting point is 00:00:51 Yeah, I kind of like that, though, you know? Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. It's get dirty. And speaking of dirty, we have the nitro rifle, Andy Cortez. I personally think you're an idiot if you prefer smooth over crunchy to everybody. Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait. I think you're, uh, I think you're an absolute idiot who doesn't deserve rights if you prefer smooth over crunchy peanut butter.
Starting point is 00:01:13 Greg, you want fucking, you want fucking rocks in your peanut butter. You want rocks in your sandwich. I want a little bit of texture. I want a little bit of a peanut personality. And you toast the bread first. You can put as many fucking peanuts if you want on there, right?
Starting point is 00:01:26 Can you imagine the crunchiness? Right. So, that's good. Anyway, I'm on a, I'm on a gaming podcast. I wore a video gaming shirt,
Starting point is 00:01:33 everybody. Oh, shit. Oh, I wore a video gaming shirt. This is, I got it for N7 day and then N7 day came and passed and then I finally got it like three days later. And here we are. I was very confused because on the Discord screen you are flipped. And so I, even on the regular screen you flip too.
Starting point is 00:01:48 So I was like, wait, it looks like N7, but it's in. Yeah, I was like, what is backwards 7N? Oh, wait. And speaking to gamers, we got him for one of the first appearances ever on the kind of funny games cast. The Master of Hype, Snowbike, Mike. Yo, what's going on there, team? Thanks for having me. Andy, unfortunately, I'm a smooth peanut butter guy, so we're going to have to draw the line, big dog.
Starting point is 00:02:11 I put up the tweet. The tweet is out right now with an hour of time limit. Peanut butter, smooth or crunchy. We'll get to the bottom of this. We will. We absolutely will. We will, Andy. We can have a whole podcast of the stuff that Mike and I have never eaten. And you all will be furious and livid. I hate it. I hate it. You guys. Like, what's at the top of your list that you haven't eaten? That's going to make us mad. You've never had an egg. Impossible.
Starting point is 00:02:33 Straight up. Nick. That's impossible. lying, dude. Not within other food. I'm talking about scrambled eggs, deviled eggs, eggs over easy. Any sort of egg, egg,
Starting point is 00:02:43 I've never had it. No, check this out, great. Greg, check this out. Do you think that's his number one, my number one for him,
Starting point is 00:02:49 he's never eating shrimp before. I mean, eggs are like such a basic thing. Your parents are going to give you. You're going to get anywhere. You're going to have even just a hard boiled egg and a salad. You're telling me you never. Like a white people thing.
Starting point is 00:03:03 And then also it's Mike. He is the whitest guy I know. But eggs are in everything. Eggs are multicultural. Eggs are like unavoidable, basically. No, they avoidable. They avoidable. Why do you avoid eggs without, like,
Starting point is 00:03:15 do you purposely avoid them? Because that's the only way you could avoid eggs is if you're like hell bent on. I am not eating an egg. I go to McDonald's blessing. I get the sausage egg McMuffin, right? I take the egg, frisbee toss it right out the window. Yeah, move and get the thing. Get the shit out of here.
Starting point is 00:03:30 Why would you get the sausage egg with egg with egg? Just get the sausage room. Then they get all distracted at six at the morning, little billies in the back you don't know what he's doing he puts the egg on anyways good lord there's a lot going on this is the kind of funny games cast where each and every week we get together talking about video games and all the things that we love about them you could get the show over on youtube.com slash kind of funny games or rousateteat com or if you want to listen to it we're a podcast too just search your favorite podcast service for kind of funny games cast and we'll be
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Starting point is 00:04:40 The good guys are winning. The good guys are winning. Smooth has 66% of the vote right. How? Because people don't want to eat rocks. No, it's, the country's going to win at the end of the day. It's all good. No, you'll just say it did.
Starting point is 00:04:52 You know what I mean? Because you're one of those types. We're waiting on the European vote. Everybody's asleep over there. Mm-hmm. Oh, they want more bite or whatever. You come on. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:05:03 They're like, oh, let's rub some leeches. on it and put pungumite on it. You know what I mean? That will boil it and need it. So I wanted to talk about Demon Souls. We're going to get to that in a second.
Starting point is 00:05:13 But looking at Snowbike Mike's hoodie right now, it reminded me about Fortnite. I have some thoughts on Fortnite. The 100 Thieves compound was put into Fortnite. Did you guys see this? Yeah. You can literally go into the 100 Thieves studio in the game. One of the most bizarre things ever.
Starting point is 00:05:31 Super dope. Love it. All's about it. But I don't really want to talk about that. too much because I don't have much to say I said it all right there I want to talk about this Galactus event what the hell it's happening just cool as it sounds is it actually just a one time everyone has to band together to fight Galactus I mean that's the idea right yeah that on Tuesday this shows up what
Starting point is 00:05:52 you got Andy it's fine it's we're streaming it Andy I you don't have to be on the team it's me it's blessing it's Kev I guess it'll be Barrett or it'll be Joey you don't have to be part of it Andy we have a segment coming up later that's just called spicy snow bike Mike but but but Right now, I want, I want some little angry Andy. Give me it. Sour Andy. I mean, I mean, look, here's the thing, man.
Starting point is 00:06:10 I got to sit and around and listen to these people talk about joining in parties, getting on Fortnite. And what is it? 2018? It's 2020. Okay, we're fracking in war zone. We're hopping into APEC. You know what I'm saying? We're getting awesome headshots.
Starting point is 00:06:24 We don't have to build anymore. We don't have to worry about that mess. I don't care about your back bling. I don't care if fucking venom is in there. Maybe Jim Carrey from the mask is a new character you can download. I don't give about that shit. Okay. we have saw we have the guy from
Starting point is 00:06:37 x-chaise chained saw in the war zone okay this fortnight get over it come on it's a it's a new decade you know but andy galactus that's cool a he would only care if his alien ant farm coming out of there he could fucking jam with him you know what i mean i get and here's the thing that you watch these competitive tournaments doesn't even look like fortnight anymore wolverings jumping around slashing the people what video game is this dude a better one i see
Starting point is 00:07:05 It is a better one. Storm is shooting shit. Like, it's not even a fucking game. It's not a shooter anymore. What is it? I was there with you about, until about a week ago, where I stepped back into Fortnite and I got to play as Wolverine and I got to play as Thor. And I was like, oh, this is, this is cool.
Starting point is 00:07:20 This is way cooler than when I played in 2018. And what I played in 2018 was good. Like, this is, what it's become is, is very fantastic. It's a Marvel game, basically. Yeah. It's a Marvel game and you're playing alongside a, had a dinosaur with a fucking robot on his back.
Starting point is 00:07:37 What's like all the things are saying are awesome. Andy's, Andy's being typically Andy with his hipster glasses and talking about how hipster he was, he was playing Fortnite before it was cool and now that it's super cool, he doesn't want to have anything to do with it. And he's playing these indie games.
Starting point is 00:07:53 Blackhops. Don't get me son on Among us. Jesus Christ, like enough with that game. Anyway, you can talk about the later time. Jesus. Wait, Snow, Snow, Mike. Before we get the, Greg and Bless his thoughts on Fortnite.
Starting point is 00:08:05 Where are you at with Fortinette? Where are you at with Galactus specifically? Who the hell is Galactus? Okay, I'm gonna be out and see what else with you. Who the hell's Galactus? I'll tell you straight up. On top of that, I'm done to crank and soggy 90s, Tim. I'm past that.
Starting point is 00:08:18 I've been there, done that. You know, they were jumping all around. I'm bored of that, right? If you're not sliding with a nasty slide, then I'm not in the video game anymore. Fortnite, out of here. Done with it. All right.
Starting point is 00:08:28 What's a soggy 90? It's a soggy 90. What you mean? I don't know what a soggy 90. Kevin you're the one playing the video game. game. Is that like Tony Hawk? If you've never cranked a soggy 90, then you're not playing Fortnite.
Starting point is 00:08:43 Clearly you're not playing Fortnite with the best of them. What are you two doing over there? What are they talking about, dude? I think it's like, I think it's a Fortnite move. You know how they have 180 no scopes and Call a Duty or 360 nooscopes? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Is that what a soggy 90 is? You got my back there.
Starting point is 00:08:59 Yeah, now I'm in. Now I'm in. Sogy 90 is when you're in a team fight and you're in a bill. off, right? And you're cranking those four, you're cranking the walls, right? But you don't just crank one wall, you're brony, right? You've got to crank a 90, right? So I'm looking for you to crank soggy 90s. I don't build when I play. Yeah, I know you don't build when you play because I see you play as right. Yeah, I'm not good. Greg, what's your experience been with Fortnite the last couple weeks? It's been fantastic. This Marvel season is so much fun. I'm having such a great time with
Starting point is 00:09:29 it. It's cool to see, you know, it dropped, what, a week before Avengers or whatever? So then I got lost with my Avengers group and then it was next gen season, everything else in review season. So to have this gap right here to end it to be able to come back and have the play sessions we've had with Blessing Kevin, Joey, and Barrett. It's been a lot of fun. And yeah, like, you know, it's exactly, it's the difference of what Fortnite was and what it's become right now. And like, I think it's fun to have a group and run around. And, you know, Kevin and I were talking about this the other day that, and I think Blessing, too, that Fortnite, you know, played by yourself versus played with the team is such a different experience. When I'm playing by myself, I feel like,
Starting point is 00:10:02 and I'm, you know, middling it best, and I'm way worse than I was back when my last fortnight obsession came through. But it is that thing of playing by myself. I am trying to win, and I am making it to the top five, and I am losing at the very end because somebody's building way quicker than I can. But I'm having a good time, and I feel competitive,
Starting point is 00:10:17 whereas playing with the group is fucking around and shooting the shit and catching up, especially right now where we all are, where, you know, we don't get to have the fun conversations anymore. The conversations we have are on camera and about the work, and then we all fuck off and maybe send a slack in the joke to actually be able to have the account, catch up that is the office has been fun.
Starting point is 00:10:34 And of course, you know, I still can't get over how much Marvel love is in this season that they've done. You know, having, you know, the other day, buying venom and then having venom falling, you know, dropping into the map with Christmas lights wrapped around his arm and then kicking over to Silver Surfer's surfboard to land and us to go fuck around and only to get killed by Dr. Doom or by a brainwash Iron Man, right? It's been fun. And so I'm stoked for Tuesday to see what the Galactus thing is.
Starting point is 00:11:00 It will be that galactic shows up. we don't know exactly it's one of the world events they do tim that'll end the season that changes everything kind of thing so theoretically what i'm anticipating is galactic shows up and we all at the same time galactic shows up in everybody's map and everybody's match and you'll all run and you'll shoot him and work down a giant thing you assume that beats him that then triggers a video that then leads us into the next season of content for fortnight it's similar to how they did it when you know the black hole ate all of fortnight or when the you know the rocket ship launched and crack the ceiling of fortnight and all that as it's those kind of like giant events that are meant to rally the group or the community
Starting point is 00:11:34 and get everybody on and there's stuff that i've there's stuff that i've watched before uh on twitter but i'm excited actually we're going to stream this one i kind of funny we'll get in there and actually see what happens is if we've all been more into this season except for andy who hates it i wish i'd get an invite one day jesus sounds fun andy you just been 15 minutes dragging it through a fucking shit you don't want to be nick out of all people don't do that yeah dude that's really sad like you hang out with nick the most you know how bad that that is when he does this. You could hit me up whenever, man.
Starting point is 00:12:01 I'm available. Did you join the squad up Slack channel? No, I refuse. And he's been too busy playing Demon Souls, and that's why we wanted to have you on the show this week. Everybody has been clamoring. The kind of funny best friends are like, where's the coverage of Demon Souls?
Starting point is 00:12:17 And, you know, Greg and I gave you guys just as much as we said we would. We're going to give this thing a shot, and we gave it a shot. But you've been giving it a real shot. Tim, before you talk about Demon Souls, Can I just talk about worm jazz for a second? Is that what you do at night in your bed? No, no, it's a game on the switch.
Starting point is 00:12:35 That's where he's making a soggy, socky name. No, no, no, it's, uh, what, like two months ago, Greg, you were like, hey man, here's a puzzle game that you might like on the switch. And I really, really like it. It's like, you're a worm that can only move in one direction, and you grow every time you eat a little bead. It's just a really, really cool puzzle game. So just shout out.
Starting point is 00:12:57 to that game, you know what I mean? What's it called? Worm jazz. And you can get... Like the music. Yeah. You can get 171 stars. I have 169.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Will I ever get the other two? I don't know. You know what I mean? That level's real, real hard. Right now, hold on. Right now it feels like Kevin is talking to the parents that really doesn't care about what the kid is doing. Like, you can get 180 stars.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Like, ah, that's good to me. That's great. I just, I love that we were introduced to the soggy 90. Kevin brings up a worm jazz. Andy asks, is that what you do in your bed? And Greg, without missing a beat, takes it to the soggy socky. That is disgusting. That's horrifying.
Starting point is 00:13:44 I'm sorry. It's 174 possible stars. I have 172. Wow. This last two are real tough, real tough. Yeah, we got to go to a safeway next meho. Okay, so get in the car. All right. So, Andy, demon souls. What's your spirit? It's like. How many hours are you in? Are you beating this game?
Starting point is 00:14:05 Oh, yeah, I'm a thousand percent beating it. I am, uh, the time clock says I'm 52 hours in. I don't really believe that. I leave the console sitting around a lot. I also streaming a lot. So I talk to chat and I walk away and do that whole thing. So I'd say it probably around maybe 46, 47 hours. But it is just, it's masterful game design. It's one of those games. that is shocking that it was made in 2009 and nobody else has caught up to the genius of its level design. I feel like with everything happening in the game, when it comes to the world building, when it comes to lore and level design and world systems, it just like every other game feels lazy compared to it. every other video game that's been made when it comes to like when i think of these open world games that there's you go to the next point to level up and you go to the next point to loot or whatever the way these games are crafted and obviously like i'm not telling anybody who's listening to this isn't hearing anything new they know a lot of people listening to this have known about these
Starting point is 00:15:14 souls games for a long time but they've known how genius they are but it's still never i i will always have my mind blown whenever i experience i'm going to this level and it's been a fucking tough run and I'm like low on health. And if I go right, it looks like I will continue. It looks like I will continue the level. But if I go left, I might find something new. And I don't want to go all the way back because I might die on the way back. It was a long as trek.
Starting point is 00:15:42 And then you go left and it opens up a gate and you are right next to the beginning of the level somehow. And you go, oh my God. And that happens fucking every level in this game where it's all about finding the bonfires to him. And you don't want to lose all your souls. And I have so many souls. I don't want to risk losing them here.
Starting point is 00:16:00 But it's a long-ass walk back to that other bonfire or to that other archstone to save and go back and kind of cash in these souls. And then when you experience these shortcuts, it is, I always have my mind blown. You always go, God damn it from software. You're so good at this. And nobody else, nobody else has caught up to this, dude. I'm sure, you know, I say nobody else. but I know other games have had good level design in the past, but no one has had any level design like this ever.
Starting point is 00:16:29 This game, it's from 2009, and it just feels so ahead of its time. There are still like some kind of crappy 2009 things happening when it comes to enemy AI and when it comes to enemy pathing. There are a couple of boss fights that feel just really wonky. I experienced a boss fight recently that was one of the worst experiences I've ever had in gaming, probably were it just super super duper hard and then that second phase begins you go oh my god i thought it was so close to being done with this first phase or with i thought this was the only phase here or whatever um but um i'm kind of curious about it because it's obviously it's blue points
Starting point is 00:17:09 recreation of it and we hope it's not their only remake because apparently there's an easter egg in the game where you hear metal gear wrecks scream really yeah um holy shit that's that That's like, that's apparently an Easter that some people have been experiencing. I don't know how true that is. Was that behind the door? No, no, no, no. No, it's when you are in a, you're in the Nexus, apparently. Did they get through the door?
Starting point is 00:17:36 Do we know about the door? Yeah, the door was just armor. The door was found. Yeah, the door was like a brand new armor set or whatever. So, like, what I'm really, really excited about, or what I'm really confused about, rather, is that obviously BluPoint kept saying we are staying absolutely true to From Software's vision with this. not going to fuck with anything. So kind of a lot of the gimmicky things and a lot of the stuff that kind of made the game
Starting point is 00:18:01 janky in some ways where you see speed runners just using all these exploits, they're still in the game. And so that shows me that from software hasn't really, or a BluPoint didn't really touch anything programming-wise, because there are a couple of boss fights where you went to this area and these gargoyles fly at you and they have just the worst pathfinding ever. Like they they they don't ever attack you directly. They'll just fly to random spots. And you're like, I'm right here.
Starting point is 00:18:27 What are you doing? So there's a lot of like broken enemy AI that happens. And I, I wonder if Blue Point was like, we want to say to to Miyazaki's vision. We want to say to do from software's vision or whether from software was like, just don't touch this shit. And I don't know. I wish I knew the truth. I wish I could be like a fly on the wall for those conversations. Because they did patch out one thing where you could get a boss.
Starting point is 00:18:51 exploit where you can essentially just shoot a boss to the fog gate before you enter the boss fight and apparently that's like a way to exploit it and cheese it and get the easy dub but uh they apparently patch that out there's a lot of other stuff they could have touched and chose not to um but this game just feels so next gen to me still like they visually it is just mind-blowing um I don't know, character creation, lighting, everything in this game just feels so next-gen. And then obviously all the fast travel going back to the nexus coming back to new areas to level. I just cannot stop playing this game. I'm so addicted to learning everything about it.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Just like I did with Bloodborn earlier this year, which is still my game in the year 2020. So you didn't play the Dark Souls games, but now you've played both Demon Souls, at least a lot of it, and Bloodbourne, which are kind of like the two ends of the whole thing, right? like secaro's in there but that's like different people look at bloodborne as kind of the spiritual successor to demon sold right yeah so how how do you compare them like are you still entirely team blood born well i would be a lot more into bloodbourne right now if it looks like this and if it were 60 frames per second that's like the big issue is like bloodborne is such a fast-paced game and it's still 30 frames and there are a lot of people assuming that bloodborn's going to get the full 60
Starting point is 00:20:16 remaster with updated textures and updated lighting and stuff like that because Sekiro and I believe Dark Souls 3 got the 60 frame upgrade just automatically similar to you know how we saw
Starting point is 00:20:30 Ghosts Hashima get some upgrades and we saw some other games kind of get those ghost drops you know what's what I'm looking for? Phantom drop what's what I'm looking for? Shadow drop shadow that's the one these are all in the same vein guys ghost shadows phantoms okay
Starting point is 00:20:46 But we saw those games get those upgrades And we're hoping Bloodbourne gets the full thing or whatever It's tough to say to him because I think I like the combat of Bloodbourne more I'm more of the fast pace timing the Perry And then getting in there and shooting itself with With Demon Souls you can kind of build really cheesy builds With magic spells and the magic spells are like extremely OPE You can just stay at a distance and kind of like Harry Potter
Starting point is 00:21:16 him to death really, really quickly. Expeleamus. Expeleamus. Yeah. Yeah, and it's like I, I started off with one of those builds, and I was taken out of NPCs in one spell, and I was like, this doesn't feel like it should. It should be a little bit tougher than this. I just went with a night build, which
Starting point is 00:21:32 I'd say it's probably the closest to the blood-borne build. When an enemy's attacking you, you parry them, they get stunned, and then you hit them for much bigger damage, just a standard attack. Either way, like, the lore, I've just been diving into all the the the lore videos and the side character stories and stuff it's also
Starting point is 00:21:53 damn interesting um but i did want to i did want to mention about uh you told me which one i preferred um i am so worried about elven ring coming up i you know phil spencer mentioned that he played elden ring and i after for a while there we were thinking like what happened Eldon ring it got talked about at E3 and it never got brought up again and this is the new from software game with Miyazaki partnering with George R. Martin and I what sucks is it's probably not going to look this good and it's because bluepoints just like otherworldly when it comes to visuals and fidelity and stuff and I what I'm hoping is from software saw early looks at Demon Souls
Starting point is 00:22:44 and it was like, shit, we got to overhaul a lot of this. Because like, but think about Souls games, they're ugly games. Like I, whether they get remastered and run at higher frame rates,
Starting point is 00:22:55 Dark Souls 3 obviously looks a lot prettier, but they don't look nice fidelity-wise. Like the characters always look kind of gross. The textures haven't been the best. The lighting hasn't been the best. Art direction-wise, still, they're obviously insane. When it comes to like,
Starting point is 00:23:11 the way their boss is, look and the way all these enemy encounters look, they're insane. Their art direction is absolutely, you know, phenomenal. But the games look ugly, inherently kind of gross. And a lot of people are like, oh, Andy, you're going to play Dark Souls 1. You got to go back. And it's like, man, these games are so gross to look at, too.
Starting point is 00:23:29 They're so, like, there will be no going back from here. And I've been hearing Bear talk about, like, Dan, I've been experiencing these 60 frames now. It's like, I can't go back. That's how I feel with Demon Souls. like this I've seen the greatest, I've seen how it looks at the top. I don't want to go back into those other do-do caca games,
Starting point is 00:23:50 you know. I was surprised playing it for the little bit I did that obviously it is stunning to look at. But I was surprised at the facial animations and I guess this is because of a character creator and all that, where there's just so many variations you could do. I was like, oh,
Starting point is 00:24:04 it's not that great. Like looking at the character itself and especially I was looking at videos like there's that glow around the character. I'm like, it kind of takes away from how beautiful the game is. That's in the game. So when you see the glow, you are in demon form or you are in your soul's form. And that's inherently built into the game.
Starting point is 00:24:22 There's a game system called World Tendency, which is built in. And if you play the game, you can kill yourself and then enter the game in your soul's form. So you have less life. But if you die, it doesn't affect the grand scope of things in Souls form. If you die in human form where you have more life and you don't have that glow, that changes the world tendency and harder enemies start to appear. You start to find better loot though. And the other players around the world can invade your level or whatever. So they can come like fight you and fuck you up if they wanted to or whatever.
Starting point is 00:25:01 So like when I talk about things like the systems in the game and how world tendency works and if you do better, you turn to a lighter tendency and the enemies get easier. all that shit is built into the game and it's so it's so it could be tough to grasp and you have to like read up on it and watch a couple of videos but it's just so awesome though that i agree with the other thing when it comes to facial animations the um souls games never have facial animations first off unless it's in a cutscene but when you walk up to an npc and they're looking at you and talking to you they never do that they just look at you and they move their head and their mouths don't move but in this one blue point actually tried to do that and it it seems kind of procedural like like the animation just kind of just based around how the character the sounds the character is making with their mounts or whatever so I don't disagree with you there but the character models themselves when you're creating just look way better than anything from software is put into the from software characters I was like really long and lanky and gross looking and I don't know I I like the vibe of this way more like when I saw my character without a shirt I was like oh shit my guy looks jacked and I've never seen a jacked character in a souls game so I am just absolutely enthralled with this game and I've been putting non-stop hours into it before we move on any closing thoughts of demon souls I think it's an absolute must play I think there are builds that you can find out there that will make the game easier for you if you are worried about difficulty um I think obviously that's the biggest barrier to entry is just you know how many times am I going to die
Starting point is 00:26:38 or whatever. But it's all about being patient. And it's all about making a build that works better for you. What sort of combat do you appreciate? So I hope that this brings in a lot more people like me who were scared to get into these, who was scared to get into this franchise because of the inherent difficulty. But you can overlevel, which is always great. You know, a lot of people always worried about the difficulty. You can grind and overlevel and make these fights a lot easier for you,
Starting point is 00:27:07 as opposed to a game like Sekiro, which is you don't overlevel. You just got to get good. What is everybody's plans for that for Demon Souls? Plus, are you going back to it eventually? I'd like to. Everything that Andy is saying is making me want to jump back into it. Like right now we're in the place where there's so many games
Starting point is 00:27:24 and so I feel less obligated to try and spend all my time and trying to struggle through Demon Souls while there's other games coming out. But I'm still in that place for, I am what, like halfway through? through Bloodbourne still and like I return to it every now and then I'm like oh this is a struggle because you know I've been out of it and so like when I try to return yeah when I try to return I'm like okay well this is going to takes me getting used to I found that when I started Demon Souls even though I think it looks way better than Bloodborn and like it's it seems awesome I wasn't in love with the
Starting point is 00:27:56 the animations as much and maybe this is just say I have to upgrade my character sort of thing but like the the swings and like the way you adjust your I have the switch I think it's called the switch axe in Bloodbourne that I'm rocking right now. Like the animation when you adjust that and like swing with it and do all these different things, I just find way more satisfying than right now the lunge I have in Demon Souls that doesn't feel as as satisfying. And if anything makes it more difficult. I'm sure again, then that's the thing I can upgrade.
Starting point is 00:28:24 Eventually I'll probably be able to swing a sword as opposed to just like lunge directly. But those are the things that. Because of the character you chose. So the character you chose has that that sort of poking, fencing sort of style of. whatever yeah but a lot of the other shows uh forget either like a magician or priest or something like that yeah if you pick like a a knight they come with a broad sword where you're swinging and it's a little bit slower but they're heavier hits um the the animations they've actually expanded quite a bit blue point did where there are animations for so you you remember like um
Starting point is 00:28:59 doing the visceral attacks bless and bloodborne that's how you start that's how you get that huge damage yeah So in here, in Demon Souls, you have your parry attack, which sends them just like the visceral does, and then you go in for that big damage, or the backstab, which is kind of another way to cheese these fights better. But what's really neat is BluPoint has done this thing where they have added different animations for a lot of different weapons and a lot of different stances. So if you hold your big-ass weapon with two hands as opposed to one, it offers a brand-new animation set as well. well. And two-handed weapons, if you're holding your big ass sword with two hands, it also deals more damage, but you can't block or parry and stuff.
Starting point is 00:29:44 So you're kind of like, you know, giving, you know, finding the risk and reward of that is there. But BluPoint did a phenomenal job with a lot of these animals. I agree with you, though, that's the first weapon I started off with too. I think the royalty class, you start off with that sort of fencing. Yeah. I went to. Yeah, I think that's what I did royalty.
Starting point is 00:30:01 And I was like, I don't like this. This kind of sucks. And when I switched tonight, you start up with a better sword. but you find weapons all the time and they will tell you what damage styles that they inflict, whether it is a slashing type of damage, which does
Starting point is 00:30:15 good against certain enemies, a like a stabbing sort of damage, which does good against certain enemies or like a hammer type blunt. There's a lot of different melee damage styles that are all sort of in the game that...
Starting point is 00:30:31 Yeah, I think you got to give it a shot, blest. I'm just constantly blown away by everything this game does and it's just like god damn from soccer's been killed i mentioned this to gregg but like uh i i want or maybe it was tim i mentioned this to somebody yesterday where i walked into the living room and saw michael playing it on the big 4k tv that we have out there and it looked ridiculously good in a way where i was this might be the best looking game i've ever seen uh and like you know that has me kind of into it and yeah like i chose the i guess the royalty class because of magic because i heard magic was really good in this
Starting point is 00:31:02 game like somewhat op and so like i i i i like i i love I like the differences that are there from Bloodborne. Like it's, those are the things that are making me want to return to it because it seems like it is inherently somewhat of different experiences because the strategy is different. The themes are different. And also it doesn't seem as scary as Bloodborn,
Starting point is 00:31:20 which is kind of one of the big things that has me like, ooh, I don't know how much I want to go back to Bloodborn because it was earlier in the year where everything, everything was already stressful. And then for me to jump into Bloodborn where everything is spiders and everything seems wet. And like, you know, The game's inherently just difficult and stressful.
Starting point is 00:31:38 I was just like, oh, man, I don't know about this. I will say this. That was sort of my argument at the beginning to I was like, oh, you know what? This is going to be a soul's game. Nothing's going to be as scary as Bloodborn. And a lot of people are like, Andy, just wait. And I was like, oh, fuck.
Starting point is 00:31:51 And so there are a couple of areas that are really uncomfortable and off-putting with creatures that you do see in Bloodborn. I mean, Bloodborn is the spiritual successor. They mentioned that in Bloodbourne, there are a lot of deleted areas that people were able to data mine stuff from that you found references to Demon Souls in. So this is sort of like a spiritual sequel to or Bloodbourne was a spiritual sequel to Demon Souls. But I will say overall the experience is nowhere near as creepy as Bloodborn. And that appeals to me a lot. I saw Greg when he was streaming Demon Souls when the PlayStation 5 of Margo,
Starting point is 00:32:31 first lifted. I saw Greg encounter like the big blob creature that had like all the different shields to it and like was I guess made up of an amalgamation. Yeah. Those blob creatures and that was the thing that made me go, all right, that seems kind of creepy to me in a way that kind of gives me goosebumps, but it's definitely like I could do it. Oh, I guess it gets worse than that. It gets worse in that. Yeah, but but I will say there's nothing like, you know, obviously in Bloodbourne, there's a snake forest where you just encounter enemies that are, that, that they come after you, Tim, and then when you hit them, their head explodes and just a big bunch of snakes just popped out. And I was like, fuck this.
Starting point is 00:33:10 I play, I have to play that area off stream because I didn't want to just experience it and be embarrassed and scared on the street. Like I had to rush. It was awful. It was terrible. It was like, you see me play Bloodborn in the office. Yeah. I cannot sit still while playing that game. Oh, just see him sit at the bed.
Starting point is 00:33:26 Oh, shit. Like, yeah, I will say it's definitely not as scary. bless, but it does have its creepy moments. There are its creepy areas that when you hop into them, people will be like, oh, careful with this area because there's sort of this Kutulu thing with like tentacles and it like runs after you in a very creepy way. Like there's a lot of creepy shit like that,
Starting point is 00:33:48 but nowhere near, nowhere on the level of bloodborne. Okay. And I can deal with that. Yeah. Everybody play it. It's fucking incredible. Before we move on,
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Starting point is 00:37:38 It's all good. I want you to get spicy. But before you do that, I want to have, I want to give you the leeway. I want to give you the walking space to give us your impressions on the PlayStation 5 as a whole. Because you, of course, the host of the kind of funny X cast, you can find that. YouTube.com slash kind of funny games, podcast services around the globe. But you now have a PlayStation 5. You've been playing a little bit.
Starting point is 00:38:02 I want to get your thoughts on it all. And at whatever point you want to segue into getting spicy, that's on you. You bring me on to the kind of funny games cast just to get spicy. This is going to be a great time. I appreciate that. Over here on the PlayStation 5, I'm impressed. I'm having a really good time. It is the next generation, right?
Starting point is 00:38:19 Tim, as I'm sure you've heard on PSI Love You XOXO with those two gibronies over there. It is the next generation. it feels good, it plays good. And it's a ton of fun, right? It might be a little too big for my entertainment center. But in all honesty, Miles Morales, Demon Souls, Sack Boy and Astrobot have been an absolute blast to play, right? The really awesome games, the really cool experiences.
Starting point is 00:38:42 I, as a, you know, semi-Playstation guy only for the exclusives, I just hate turning it on. I'm going to be honest with you. We're going to get spicy Mike right now. Let's just get right into it, okay? I hate turning on this PlayStation so much. I got to hold that dumb controller. Then I got to turn on the console.
Starting point is 00:38:59 The dumb controller. Wait, which PlayStation are we talking about? Let it finish. We're talking about this PlayStation PlayStation Plus. All right. So I'm holding out of the dumb controller. Then I got to turn on the thing. And I'm getting lost in folders.
Starting point is 00:39:11 It's sideways. It's going on directions. And then when I try to get out of the game, it's got a bar on the bottom that I can't even see. I'm just telling you, I've always hated the PlayStation UI. And that's just a me thing, right? That's not a you, the gamer thing,
Starting point is 00:39:23 because I enjoy the games very, very much. but my PlayStation experience so far, eh, you know, it's all right. It's all right. That's all right. What beeped you out there with the controller? Oh, that controller sucks, man. If you're not holding the PlayStation,
Starting point is 00:39:36 if you're not holding the Xbox Elite controller, are you really gaming? Okay, let's talk about this for a moment. It's got back buttons. It's got triggers that you can pull off and change. It just heals right in your hands. I go over there and I hold the... It's also $300.
Starting point is 00:39:49 The thing is trying to work my index finger out as if I'm at the gym or something, right? I don't need the haptic feedback. I don't need that bullshit, okay? And so, yeah, I just don't like the controller. I don't like PlayStation that much. I'm just not a PlayStation guy. Andy Cortez, I'm kind of funny.
Starting point is 00:40:04 I will say the main glow up that I've had going from PS4 to PS5 is the dual sense because I fucking hate the dual shock four. I think that is one of the worst controllers I've ever used and the battery last 20 minutes, right? The dual sense absolutely kicks ass. Feel wise, trigger wise. I love the sticks. I always used to like Obviously I wanted to play
Starting point is 00:40:29 Like Fortnite with Greg or whatever It's like shit I wish I could use my Xbox controller So I would buy Xbox sticks to Install them on the Dual Shock 4 I just fucking hate the Dual Shock 4 The DualSense is like the biggest glow up for me And we have like We have a solid state drive now with awesome loading times
Starting point is 00:40:46 I still think the Dual Shock Or the DualSense is the biggest glow up Because that's how much I hated the Dual Shock 4 That's the truth I agree with Andy right there I do like the dual sense much more than the dual shock, but I still just not a fan of this controller, right? I don't like the feel of it.
Starting point is 00:41:02 Where the heck is this dumb? What the heck is this dumbass controller here? You know, and I'm like, why are these buttons so far apart, right? Why are the face buttons over here so far apart? Why don't I have some back triggers to really get into this next level gameplay that I want? And the shoulder button's too big.
Starting point is 00:41:22 I could go on and on about what I dislike. But I do like the games. I like playing over on PlayStation. So don't get misconstrued their best friends out there. I'm just saying I'm having a good time, but I'm also having one of those times where I just don't like turning on the system, right? I'm not a big fan of going over there. It's got to be something really special.
Starting point is 00:41:40 Miles Morales, you got me over there. Demon Souls, I played the first hour. I'm tempted, right? Astrobot, I played like two hours. Guess what? I'm never going back, right? And so for me on this PlayStation side, it's got to be something big to grab me,
Starting point is 00:41:53 to grab this controller, turn on the console. Oh, no, I like the next gen. Don't get me wrong. Like Andy said, we got some really nice things here, and the boys will tell you on their show how great it is. But for me, as a casual gamer, it better be the biggest than the baddest game over on PlayStation for me to jump over and turn this console on.
Starting point is 00:42:12 So I want to keep the spiciness rolling here. Get the spicy. Someone would say this insanity. But let's talk about NBA 2K. You said that you have some beef with that. I got some beef with this, and I've had beef with it for many years, Tim, and I'm sure a lot of fans out there, if you truly are into NBA 2K or if you're into sports games, you know the biggest gripes, right? These guys and gals work very hard. And the developers,
Starting point is 00:42:36 you do an incredible job. Thank you for making these sports games. But whoever's making the big calls, they're diving too hard into my wallet. And they're making a lot of decisions that are holding back the fan base that I really dislike. And so now we jump in to NBA 2K21, which released on the previous generation of consoles and now has a new whole standalone game called Next Generation, right? And that's Coolism B, because I can see Zion sweating in front of me.
Starting point is 00:43:03 I can see Steph Curry's weird, puffy afro and beard that doesn't look quite right, you know? But the issue is, is when you jump in, of course, there's only one thing you want to play. And that's called my career, because everybody wants to be the next LeBron James. Everybody wants to build their character. And the problem that I have is,
Starting point is 00:43:21 everything that I had on the last generation, all that money I spent does not follow through. That VC does not come over. Then on top of that, the moment you build your character, guess where they're going to send you to Rookieville. And you're probably saying, like, Mike,
Starting point is 00:43:33 that doesn't sound that bad. They have promoted what the neighborhood used to be turned into the city. And the city is this giant sprawling, open world where your homies are skateboarding, one guy's on a scooter, one guy's riding the bike, and you pull up to different parks, and we hoop out in the streets, right?
Starting point is 00:43:49 And it's supposed to be the coolest idea you've ever heard. But when it comes down to actual functionality and the play of it, it is the worst experience I've ever had in a video game. Wow. Yeah, Greg Miller, get ready. So you start the game and you go into Rookieville. Rookieville is located on shipping docks in a dark corridor with no lights and four grayed out courts. The issue as well is you don't get to play with your friends. When you jump into this game, it's all about playing with your friends because who doesn't want to hoop with your friends, right? So you jump into Rookieville and you have to play all these games all by yourself. No friends, just randoms. And when I say you play with randoms, I'm talking about Andy Cortez over there
Starting point is 00:44:28 shooting two of 17 and he hasn't passed me the ball all game long, Tim. And you have to do this. I'm feeling a hot street coming, Mike. You have to do it from Rookie 1 all the way to Rookie 3 to get to Pro 1. That could take anywhere from 5 to 25 games, depending on how you and your team perform. If you take an L and you get zero points with two rebounds, you're going to get 2% of that bar worked up. You know how long it takes Tim Geddes to get all the way up to pro level one? That took me 15 games for a grand total of six hours. That is bullshit. Why? Because we're promoting this big city that I want to get into. So I break free, Rookieville. I get past all the losers that are 65s and below,
Starting point is 00:45:12 I finally get to go into the big city. And guess what you're greeted with? You're greeted with the Grand Theft Auto 3, PlayStation 2, looking ass city. The fucking textures look like shit. The buildings look bad. And when I say it's a city, God damn it, Greg Miller, I mean, it's a fucking city.
Starting point is 00:45:30 There's four different teams here. There's the north side, the south side, the east side, the west side. And when I say you got to fucking walk, if I'm on the north side team and bless me part of the south side, It's going to take me seven minutes to walk my happy ass all the way down to see Blessing. And that's the dumbest shit I've ever seen. And Mike, and by the time you get there, your hamstrings are worn out, your ankle kind of butt.
Starting point is 00:45:51 Like, you know, you can't do good in the game anymore, man. I show up and the city has so many courts, right? Blessings crew, they have 10 courts. I got 10 courts. Andy and Greg, everybody's got 10 courts out of these four different areas, plus all the shops in the middle and the pro-am. And a lot of Jibronies now, instead of one to hoop and play, they want to see. it down. They want to skateboard. They want to scooter around town. And so when I show up
Starting point is 00:46:14 to the court, there's like seven kids there. And I'm like, what the fuck is going on? They're vaping and shit. I hate to see it. Yeah. The games, you have this massive world. Everybody's on the same connection. And the game continues to stutter out, which they've done for years now, ever since the
Starting point is 00:46:30 neighborhood and the park was built. Because for some reason, when we're playing, I've got to see Andy's court over there playing their game. I got to see Tim's court over there playing. And it's just this mess of connection, lack of playability, nobody in the population of this city. And I'm just so frustrated with such a cool idea, an awesome idea. But when we continue to do it year after year and they dive into my wallet where I can
Starting point is 00:46:54 start the game off and I can be 65 overall, or I can give them $150 and I'll be $85 overall. Oh my God. How much money that is? Now get this, Greg Miller, because I know you are a sports fan. You ready for this? Yeah. If you fuck up with that build, Greg, and the meta changes. And you put on the wrong stats, you put on the wrong wingspan, the wrong height, the wrong weight, whatever it may be.
Starting point is 00:47:15 And that build becomes trash. Guess what? You're going to have to spend $150 on another build and another build and another build. And so you sit there with so much anxiety at the player build screen because you have two options. You can either be a gibroni like me and my buddies who just get slapped around and fucked up all the time. Or you can go out there, get my God build on YouTube. This is the meta. Be this guy on Reddit.
Starting point is 00:47:40 And then you build these characters, but you still suck. And you're $150 down. It's just so incredible that we have gone for years now doing this. And I see these review scores of like, this is the greatest game ever. I'm so proud of this. And then Dirt 5 doesn't get any love on the best sports and racing game of the year. After that game is just next level shit. It's insane that some of these games get passed up.
Starting point is 00:48:03 And then we continue to come back here year after year and praise this game, which I'll give it. It looks better. It doesn't play better. exact game, but we still continue to have these connection issues. We have this dumb, granted idea of the city. Andy Cortez laid on me. Mike, I would love to experience any of these things that you're talking about, right? The good, the bad.
Starting point is 00:48:23 I'd love to try to experience it. But it's been about 12 years. It's been about 12 years since I first scanned my face and put myself in the Tiger Woods, 2007, 2008. It's been 12 years since that's happened. And that worked flawlessly. I'd take my photo from the front, put it on the side, go to the EA website,
Starting point is 00:48:48 upload those photos. I looked fucking dope in the game. Me and all my friends look sick as shit. We're all golfing around the links. It's great. You know, drop back a couple of bruise or whatever. NBA, my face scan, has been as bro-
Starting point is 00:49:05 Like, this thing has about a 20% success rate. And it's been broken as shit for the last, I don't know how many years. I downloaded the newest app. It is one of the worst just user experiences I've ever had. So I haven't even hopped into this shit because I haven't been able to get a favorable look for my character. And in the video that I posted where I had that busted ass created player, where first off, I'm not a black man, but it made me a black man with a fro. It gave, it had my teeth, my bottom teeth sticking out of my bottom lip.
Starting point is 00:49:42 Like my whole bottom like, you know, mandible was sticking out of my skin. And then I turn it to the side view and, you know, some guy made a comment and said, did you take photos of a doxin and upload it? Because from the side view, I look like a fucking dog because like my snout is sticking out. And I'm using a very, very good camera phone. First off, you open up the app and you have to re-log in every time. It doesn't save where you were logged in. You have to like, I'm logging into Xbox.
Starting point is 00:50:15 Let me type in my Xbox live stuff. Luckily, Google saves those codes for me. I log in. You go to the My Face Scan app and it tells you, look at the camera and then rotate your head slowly and then rotate it all the way back. And it'll ding when it's done. Cool. thing it's done awesome and i'll sit there and wait and it's loading and it's loading and this takes about maybe three minutes it gets to the very very very very end and then it says some of these
Starting point is 00:50:40 photos are fucked up the camera turns back on the camera turns back on to to retake those photos you don't know what position you were you hope you get it right and when the camera comes back in you are vertically squished every time my face is vertically squished because it's looking like it's tim it's like you know you took the scaling uh restraints off of yeah the transform so it's just like i i am like super tall and skinny now and that takes away 10 pounds there you go that's how it's capturing my face now and that's going to screw it up so i have to restart again to try to do it absolutely perfect and i'm looking at the camera and everything seems perfect and then people say andy don't use the front
Starting point is 00:51:19 camera use the back camera how the fuck am i can use the back camera if i don't know what i'm looking at so i use this camera to bring up obes to use my back camera to use my back camera to the then see the reflection of what I'm doing and it still comes in janky and then it and that's not even like mentioning all the times that it gets to 100% and then it says the fucking faces fail to upload like oh my god guys like when I posted that video and I said about 30 tries it was probably more than 30 tries and I still haven't gotten to this point Mike because I want to see my face in the game why is this so fucking hard dude why is this the worst experience man it's terrible dude you tell so you tell me though
Starting point is 00:52:01 in Tiger Woods it used to work for you yes in Tiger Woods um all you would do because it was tied to EA's website you didn't need a fucking app that's gonna like first off when you open up the app it shows you like an ad for something it's like okay you're motherfuckers like so on the EA website all you would do is you took a face you took a shot of your front face and your side and then you would go to the website and you would set like here's where the tip of the nose is here's what the tip of the upper lip is and the tip of the chin and all this shit and then it would just do it at work And it was awesome. It was so fast and easy.
Starting point is 00:52:33 And with this goddamn thing, like obviously, because these graphics are newer, it's harder to be more precise because it's, the flaws are going to show more. See, but I don't buy that, though, because like Snapchat, like if we have Snapchat filters and Instagram filters and all this stuff, it's like they have this magic. Why does 2K not have this technology? You've got to imagine that they can at least partner or link up with somebody
Starting point is 00:52:55 if they're going to have a fucking app to do this shit. It would be so much easier to just up. load photos to a website as opposed to using an app that works 10, 20% of the time, if that, and then you go to the, and then if it doesn't fail here, you better fucking be sure it's going to
Starting point is 00:53:12 fail here on this goddamn TV. Because like, if it goes through the app and it says success, it's like, oh, great. And then you go to the and then you go to the Xbox and you say like, all right, confirm. And then it'll start loading and it goes to the loading thing. And that takes a while. And then it'll get to 100 and be like, no error. Like, it is so
Starting point is 00:53:29 broken. It is one of the worst user experiences I've ever had, dude. It's so, it's inexcusable, man. It's been years of this shit. And this isn't the first year I've tried it. I tried it with like, I don't know, 2K 16 or 17, whatever year that they. This has been the history with this, right? Like, I mean, even in WW2K, I remember when I was still playing those and I started
Starting point is 00:53:49 every time trying to put my face in way back in the day on streams, trying to put Colin in. And it would always look terrible and patchy and weird and bizarreo. Yeah. I mean, even for me, the first time I did it, and it never worked in the history of the Tony Hawk franchise. But in Tony Hawk's underground, which was in 2003, I'm looking at an article in IGN right now from Doug Perry, explaining how to face scan.
Starting point is 00:54:10 Because I remember it being a ridiculous process. And it, yeah, it's fucking crazy. You would take a picture with a digital camera and then email it to faces. Faces at thugonline.com. And then NeverSoft employees would create the character like nap it. That's awesome. You'd have to connect your PS2 online using the network. adapter to download.
Starting point is 00:54:31 That's how complicated this I was. And I will never forget getting my picture back and looking like blessing and being like, how did this happen? So I did it again.
Starting point is 00:54:41 And it again looked like blessing. And I'm like, what the fuck? So I gave up on it. Never again. Although then I just, I was a black dude faced off against Eric Sparrow.
Starting point is 00:54:50 So you know how it goes. Yeah, I don't know, man. Figure it out, man. Talk to Instagram. Talk to Snapchat.
Starting point is 00:54:56 Here's the thing. It's like, I just feel like because it's so broken, and why even offer this. Now, I need to ask Khalif where the secrets are, because Khalif posts his face every year and doesn't seem to post tweets that are complaining about it. So I got to assume it works with like 100.
Starting point is 00:55:10 Who does he know a 2K? Didn't he have to shave for it, though? Khalif does shave his face. You're right. No, but I think he does that because he wants to add the beard later. Yeah, because you can definitely add it in later. You can add in the mine. And now I can do that in mine as well.
Starting point is 00:55:26 Like when I take my photos, it does upload. sort of like it's darker where the beard would be and then you can then place a beard polygons you know in in polygon form above that um but yeah it's just it's been so many years of this and i i got to assume i'm not alone with my experience um because when i posted that video i got several replies saying like oh yeah this happens to me every every year um kevin i'm sending you this video on on assets one time i've tried doing it with like mba i want to say mb8 2k 16. I tried it and it did not come out good. And I was like,
Starting point is 00:56:03 well, that's just... Never trying this again. And here's the thing, like, I would be way more willing to try it if I got the results fairly quickly. Sure. If you saw you failed right away and you're able to fix it and tweak. Yeah, and I knew that it was going
Starting point is 00:56:19 to be successful in at least uploading. But the fact that I have to go at least 10 attempts in between every other attempt, it's just not it's just not worth it man it's just not worth it and it's i had so much faith too i had so much faith that it was going to be seamless and flawless why next gen's about convenience yeah here we go yeah i loved all the comments on my instagram they're like next gen baby i finally got the face yeah so i was
Starting point is 00:56:45 like here we go i finally got this shit working 21 and then yeah it's spitting image and then yeah it's pretty spot on yeah oh my god oh my god oh my my god yeah like the fact that my teeth are just sticking out of my bottom lip is just like it's horrifying it's just sucks man oh bad yeah that is real unfortunate uh speaking to things that sound like they're unfortunate but i want to hear more about bright memory a game that apparently was the one that started off the xbox may conference the one that looked graphically amazing and then they're like oh it made by one dude uh you guys played it bless what are you're you're thinking thought so far. So to be clear, the one that we've played is Bright Memory, which is basically the,
Starting point is 00:57:35 see, I'm still not totally clear on it. I don't know whether it's like the predecessor to Bright Memory Infinite, whether Bright Memory Infinite is a sequel or just an expansion to Bright Memory. Snowbike, Mike, I don't know if you have more clarity on that one. I'm going to go with what you said on the second part where it's just the continuation of this. This is building. This is probably a small slice of what we're seeing here, but I haven't got a good read on this. I just know one guy made this and It feels like a tech demo here. Here's what I got for you on Wikipedia. Bright Memory,
Starting point is 00:58:01 all synomer is Bright Memory Episode 1 is a first person shooter hack and slash video game developed by Chinese independent developer, FYQD, Personal Studio. Instead of creating an episode two, the game is currently being remade and expanded in both gameplay and story into a full length title called Bright Memory Infinite
Starting point is 00:58:17 that is planned to release on Windows and Xbox Series X-S in 2021. Players who bought the PC version of Bright Memory will be able to get Bright Memory Infinite for free. Sweet. So yeah, the code we got was for a bright memory on Xbox Series X. And I played a little bit of it and it seemed not good. Like, I don't even know where to start with this thing. Like, I was very excited to try it out because from watching the trailer, I remember during our watch along, I was very excited for this because it looks incredible. Like Kevin's playing the trailer here and it looks beautiful. You know, the gameplay looks fun. It has this first person. Yeah, it's like a first person. Yeah, ghostwinner kind of style to it. But like you're doing shooting. and slashing and it looks like you have some kind of like bow-shock abilities to you.
Starting point is 00:59:00 Like it looks like a fun first-person action game. And upon booting up bright memory on Xbox Series X, you know, to his credit, it does have the style it's going for, but that's kind of where for me it kind of ends in terms of things that work about it. Like it seemed broken on multiple levels. Like there are multiple times
Starting point is 00:59:21 where I'd try to fuck around with the UI and the UI would get stuck. I think I tried to what was the thing I was trying to mess with? I was trying to mess with something. I think I was either trying to invert controls or, no, I was trying to mess with sensitivity,
Starting point is 00:59:36 like, you know, like input sensitivity for the y-axis or whatever. And I went to the menu, pulled it up, tried to turn it down because I think it was just like way too, way too high. Try to turn it down and then the menu just got stuck there.
Starting point is 00:59:51 And I try to close it and come back and do all these things and it just got stuck. and so I would have to restart the game in order to fix it. Along with that, there are like multiple glitches that I had in gameplay. And I got to the second level before I was just like, yeah, this thing seems bad and then I stopped playing it. Like it didn't, it wasn't fun to control.
Starting point is 01:00:08 The shooting seemed off. The action seemed off. The enemies seemed very like, in terms of physics, right? Like hitting them didn't feel fun. Like there didn't feel like there was good feedback there in terms of hitting an enemy and feeling like you're taking somebody out. like everything there kind of felt plastered together in a way that I couldn't believe that this is something that
Starting point is 01:00:28 apparently was making ripples and was like is being advertised as a next big step for an Xbox series X game. Yeah, I agree with that. You know, after my time, I'll tell you, it's only about 28 minutes, right? You can beat it in less than 30 minutes here with this little vertical slice. And like Blessing says, right, it feels like it's supposed to be a doom fast Twitch shooter here,
Starting point is 01:00:51 but it doesn't feel good on the controller. all, right? It just doesn't connect well. It doesn't move well. And then you try to link up these combos with your sword and time stopping abilities and everything just kind of feels clunky. And it was a drag to try to get through this. The only thing for me that I liked was the weird looking enemies, right? All of a sudden I'm fighting some giant demon that looks like he's out of demon souls or a lion that's mixed with an armadillo and a tiger and a turtle. I don't know what the hell that thing was. But at least it was cool on the screen. while I was shooting its face off with a shotgun,
Starting point is 01:01:26 but it just did not feel good. Thank God it was only $7 on my end because I would not have paid any more than the $7 price tag that it's currently at. After beating it, I'll never go back to it for sure. This bright memory infinite, whatever this guy's cooking up now, has a bigger hill to climb instead of how me and Blessing felt after May, right? Where you came out of that and you're like, oh, snap,
Starting point is 01:01:48 like that guy's got a samurai sword. He's got a grappling hook. This is going to be some dope shit, right? Now I come out of that and I'm like, you got to really sell me, dude, right? If this price tag is over $20 and you think this is going to be the biggest game on Xbox over here to help boster this lineup, we got a problem because it does not feel good. It doesn't play good. I heard it's going to be 45 minutes this time.
Starting point is 01:02:10 I didn't realize those 28 minutes until Mike told me before the show, which means that I got very close to the ending and I wouldn't have realized that. I probably played about 20-something minutes and was like, all right, I'm doing this. I've seen enough. I don't even do you. So you all mentioned that the gameplay is. It's kind of like, you know, kind of crappy or whatever. Is it also just really, really bad performance-wise? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:30 I didn't perform well for me. No, not at all. It didn't perform well at all. Bad frame. Yeah, especially where it's like you're jumping into the next generation of consoles. This has been promoted out there on one of their big videos. Sure, it's a different game. But, you know, the name is still there, right?
Starting point is 01:02:45 And so you see that one of the few optimized titles on the Xbox Series X library. And of course you're going to click on that. And for what I experienced there, you quickly will hit uninstall and regret that purchase right. Yeah, it legitimately feels like a, hey, how do we get our name out there? Okay, yeah, let's put this game as one of the few optimized series X and S games and have our game be alongside when you open up that menu and you see Assassin's Creed Valhalla and you see Yakuza like a dragon, right?
Starting point is 01:03:13 And like, well, our game will be one of the few games up there. So people are going to check it out and buy it anyway. This feels like the beginning. This feels like the switch launch. Yeah. If we put up our games near, you know, Mario Odyssey and stuff, people will buy it. And maybe it performs better on PC. Because when they showed it off for Bright Memory Infinite in that Xbox conference,
Starting point is 01:03:31 I remember being hyped about it and then like looking on Twitter. And like I got a few tweets from people being like, oh, yeah. And Bright Memory is also already out on PC if you want to check it out. I remember getting those and being like, oh, yeah, this must be like some kind of cult phenomenon. People must be playing it and enjoying it. And so I wonder if on PC it plays better. Maybe that's where they're getting this bolster. But yeah, on Xbox Series X, it did not, it did not play great at all.
Starting point is 01:03:56 So right now there's not too many enhanced games, optimized games for Series X, but the Halo Master Cheap collection recently got it to update. Mike, you've been playing that, what you got from me there. Tim Geddes, it feels like a brand new game. It feels so good to return Halo Fridays with your friends, like Alana Pierce would say on the kind of funny X-Cast are back, right? I'm talking 120 FOV slider. you crank that thing,
Starting point is 01:04:19 your earlobes, baby. It feels good, Andy. I'm fucking the fastest HALO Spartan I've ever had, right? Greg Miller's looking at me, he goes, man, I remember playing that game, and it was slow, man, right? I didn't feel like a super soldier. Why am I out there clunky jumping and shit like that?
Starting point is 01:04:35 I'm telling you, you crank that FOV slider, and they go from Halo one all the way to four right there, right? And it feels so good to jump back into the resolution is up. The frame rate is so much better. And it just plays better over here on the Xbox Series X, 10%. And it's a ton of fun to jump back to. Any game where you can upgrade an FOV slider, this is, Mike, this is where they're going to start to learn, okay?
Starting point is 01:05:01 This is where they're going to start to learn, all right? We have Nick Scarpino jumping in the war zone with us, playing mouse and keyboard on a PS5. And he doesn't quite have that FOV slider yet. He does have it on Black Ops Cold War, though. the FOV slider just feels like a brand new game in addition to these upped frame rates it feels like a brand new game so I'm excited to check this out
Starting point is 01:05:26 because when they dropped Halo 3 on PC and it was fully up res and you had the unlocked frame rates and it was crazy upgraded graphics and stuff it feels incredible now I'm still kind of missing the dash or whatever because I'll tell you what the Halo 5 kind of got me spoiled with the dash but with the little forward and back I started to really big that mechanic. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:48 Yeah, Halo 5 has really done an incredible job at upgrading it and bringing those controls and that gameplay into the modern setting that it needs to be to compete with Call of Duties and battlefields and games like that, right? There's the traditional Halo and then there's the New Age Halo that we have to bring this multiplayer in gameplay up to ensure that everybody, no matter around the globe, Tim, Tommy, Becky, and Susie will grab this and go,
Starting point is 01:06:11 man, it feels like Fortnite, man, it feels like Call of Duty instead of Tim Geddes who's stuck in 2004, right? And he remembers Halo 2, and that's where he's going off of. We're not there anymore. We have to move forward. And this with the crossplay now with PC, everybody having, you know, the Master Chief Collection really rounded out and fold out
Starting point is 01:06:30 with Halo 4 coming onto PC now too is a big deal. Would I have liked to see it in the optimization on Halo 5? Me personally, yes. But was it the right thing for Master Chief? 110% because that's where the player base is. That is where the heritage is. of this game. And trust me,
Starting point is 01:06:46 if you boot up Halo 5 on that series X, it looks good, it feels good, and gosh darn it, it loads up so fast, and that's all that matters. When the hell is crossplay actually coming? I believe crossplay
Starting point is 01:06:57 came with that patch. It's good to go. Because I'm Googling right now, and it keeps saying, like, before the end of 2020. I don't know, we better check it because I thought we were good to go
Starting point is 01:07:06 with this patch. I hope so. I hope so. But, you know, I did say that about apex, and I only played about three days worth of apex. Andy, let's go back.
Starting point is 01:07:14 We can go back. It was fun, Bless. We had a blast, dude. Yeah, I'm down to go back. And, like, after that, because I was sucking when we were playing together. I played a few matches with, I think it was Reg and Yousef, and I was, I was racking up bodies. You're bopping. It's the usual thing.
Starting point is 01:07:29 It's the usual thing that always happens. I'll play shitty on stream. First game off stream, I have an eight killed, 1800 damage game. I was like, God damn it. Why couldn't I just fucking do that earlier? To wrap up the show here, Bless, I want to talk a little bit. bit about harmonics's latest fuser. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:07:46 I've been playing a lot of fuser. It's very good. I think I've talked about it a few times on this podcast, but a too rate rate, right? Like it is apparently drop mix, but expanded, where you are, it's a rhythm game. You're a DJ and you're putting together different tracks and different songs to go together at a show. So you're basically like, you have a track list you're working with and you can drop on your, on your table, right?
Starting point is 01:08:08 Like the drum pattern to El MFEO What's the name of the LMAFEO song? Everybody loves. Party Rock all the time. You can drop the drum to party rock anthem. You can drop the lyrics to the Lil Nas X song that's popular. You can drop the one.
Starting point is 01:08:27 Well, there's a new one. I think it's called Holiday. That's very good. It's very good. Lyrics are great. Pannini was another one. Panini was another one. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:34 Little Nas X on fire. And yeah, you're putting together these different sets and you're being creative with it, but also you have to like fulfill either fan demands from the audience or you are doing a bunch of different things in order to wreck up points and put on a good show. I've been playing with friends, and I've also been playing the online competitive mode.
Starting point is 01:08:54 Those are the new things I've been doing. And on one hand, I find the online battle mode to be very fun and very interesting because the way it essentially shakes out is you are competing online with people you don't know and it is a versus battle where you're competing to get your songs on the board. You want to drop, you're competing to get your songs on the board over your opponents. And the way that you do that is by dropping your songs better and quicker and more onbeat than your opponent.
Starting point is 01:09:26 And so basically, you'll have requests from the audience. You'll have different tasks that you're trying to fulfill. And you're basically trying to have more of your music playing than your opponent. and it is very fun. Like I was shocked by how much of a good time I was having with it playing that mode because it essentially becomes this quick thing of, okay, the audience wants to hear a song from the 1990s.
Starting point is 01:09:50 All right, what's the song? Okay, I'm going to play push it. And so I'm going to drop push it. Okay, cool. I dropped it. I dropped the drum line from push it perfectly on beat.
Starting point is 01:10:01 And I did it faster than my opponent. And so my version of the song is going to overtake my opponent's version of the song. And you're having like these small like a bunch of small battles like that of like, okay, cool. I got to play a drum song or oh, okay, I got to play a pop song or a country song like who I'm going to play this Taylor Swift thing. How much does a alien ant farm get played? I don't know if there's any alien farm anymore in there. Andy go ahead and rant against this game. Terrible game.
Starting point is 01:10:31 That is like a small rant I have is like I was playing this game with the homie zombie kills on stream. and I realized that she was playing way better songs than I was. And I was like, how are you getting these songs? And I realized that she was getting them as DLC. It seems like they, of course, because it's harmonics, right? Like a lot of the best songs in this game seem to be DLC songs, which bribmed me out a little bit because I was like, she's getting some great songs.
Starting point is 01:10:55 I can't think of them off the top of my head because there's a lot of them. But I was like, dude, how is she getting X, Y, and Z? And I don't have that in my slate yet. That's a bummer. But yeah, that was a fun time doing the battle mode. and then co-op-wise, when you want to play with a friend, I feel like that's where the game lacks, because you can't battle them.
Starting point is 01:11:12 There's basically one mode you can play with friends called co-op freestyle, where you are going into these freestyle rounds with friends and trying to put on a better show than your friend. The thing that sucks about it is your round only lasts, like, I want to say, like, 64 bars, or maybe less than that, maybe like 32 bars. It goes pretty quick in terms of the round.
Starting point is 01:11:35 And so like you'll have like a one back and forth with you and a friend or you and two friends, you and three other friends. And it'll be done in like two minutes. And then you can redo it again. But before you redo it, you have to go through the point screen and you have to like ready up again and do all that stuff. And it's very, it feels very arbitrary in terms of wanting to play with friends and just wanting to put on a show. Like they've, they found a way to turn it competitive in a way that would be fun if it didn't interrupt the, the, the, the, flow of the match every single time. And I don't understand why they did it this way as opposed to letting people just play.
Starting point is 01:12:11 And so that's a little bit of a bummer. I hope they update it to either remove that barrier or let people battle or give more options for multiplayer because that's the thing that's kind of lacking is options to play with friends. Aside from that, having a great time with the game, having a good time. I'm loving it. I don't know how much more I'm going to play a bit because I've, I feel like I have ran the course in terms of playing all the songs.
Starting point is 01:12:35 that are in my repertoire, that are in my serrado, if you're familiar with that rubbish. And like- You ain't got no yee's in your Toronto? You ain't got no yee using your sororado? I might go for the DLC so I can expand my Serrato a bit and then maybe get another week out of it. But I think aside from that, I might be, I might be done.
Starting point is 01:12:55 Yeah, I think you might be done. Alien Ant Farm, there is no D.L. Son of a bitch. Mike, what's up? Question from the press pool. Blessing over there. I have a big gear to grind with Fuser because I have been enjoying it. But me and my friends have not been able to play any online multiplayer at all blessing.
Starting point is 01:13:13 We have tried about five different nights now and continue to connect and then disconnect and just bang firewalls there. I was just wondering, are you playing cross-platform play like they've promoted? Are you playing only on PlayStation 5? How are you getting these games in? Because when I look around, me and my friends have not gotten a game in yet. And we're pretty mad that they're promoting a multiplayer that does. not work in our eyes. You got to update that nat type, Mike.
Starting point is 01:13:38 You got over that nat type. Y'all, motherfucker. It did take me a couple of tries to connect with Zambay when we were playing. And I was playing on PS5. She was playing on Xbox. And so it was crossplay. And basically, we had to go, uh, in order to make that work, we had to follow each other in the game because the game has a setup to where you can follow different artists. My artist, I mean players, right? Like, you can follow different players and players will upload their sets or upload certain things. So it's this whole cool social media as an artist sort thing where you're sharing your creations. And so if you, if you,
Starting point is 01:14:08 it's weird because it's buried in the menu, but there's a place you can go to basically put in your friend's, uh, username, which will be probably their platform username because for me, it was Merck City 64 within the pound sign, the pound symbol or hashtag, what do you want to call it? The numbers after it. Um, so it's like a Discord username, basically where they make everything their own. Uh, you add that or you follow it and then you're
Starting point is 01:14:28 able to, if you're doing crossplay, you're able to connect with it through, uh, you're able to connect with other players through that. The thing is, even with that, it took me in Zambay a couple of tries to get it right. Like, it didn't connect automatically. And so I think they probably are suffering some server issues in that regard. Yeah, the game is dope. I mean, me and Gary spoke very highly of it on the kind of funny X-cast. We really had fun.
Starting point is 01:14:51 I mean, I just go back to Lizzo and just play Lizzo all the time because I have no beat or whatever. It is a really cool game. And it's a must try. If you're into music, if you were into guitar, hero, any of those games, like that feeling of being up on the stage and seeing people bounce and jump. and you grabbing different tracks. I mean, that is a feeling I've never had before in video games, and I love it.
Starting point is 01:15:10 The smile you get when you connect that beat and it feels so good, the bad. You add a little Jolene with some salt and pepper and you just mix it up with the Migos. The coolest experience. Yeah, and that's the thing. It's surprising how well so much of it works when you're putting together songs that you wouldn't think would go together. Like when I combine the drum pattern from Stir Fry with some country song from the 1980s that I've never heard and it works together perfectly.
Starting point is 01:15:32 It's very satisfying. And yeah, like the more I play too, the better I feel like I get at the game. But it makes me feel not only just good at the game, but it makes me feel like I'm getting more creative and better musically, where I, you know, have like a bunch, I have my four different tracks going and then I go and I'm like, okay, I'm going to solo this track for a second, right? I'm going to do it on beat because that then gives me more points.
Starting point is 01:15:52 And it doesn't subtract from my crowd reaction. So I'm going to solo this song, uncelo it, remove the baseline. So I have like purely trouble going on. Okay, cool. I'm going to now go back solo the vocals again. While the vocals are soloed, I'm going to drop. I'm going to remove all the instruments. I'm going to drop new ones. Okay, I'm going to un-sullo the vocals. Now it's like a new beat behind the song. And it's like, once you get that going to get that going to get that once you get that going to get that going to get that going to do the post show exclusive for Patreon users, speaking to Nick real quick, alien ant farm from the same home. Nick's going to hate you, though. The kind of funny games cast. We're about to do the post-show exclusive for Patreon users. Speaking to Nick real quick, alien ant farm from the same home. hometown of Riverside, California. Greg Miller, what's up?
Starting point is 01:16:37 Before we go, we need to have the final verdict that, yes, Snowbike, Mike, and I are correct. 62% of the vote goes to smooth, 38% goes to crunchy. Y'all can go eat gravel in your front yard, next sandwich you want, you clowns. More chunky for us, baby, let's go. Crunchy, not chunky, chunky, chunky, chunky's a salsa. They call it chunky, they call it chunky. Skippy calls it chunky. Oh, that's disgusting.
Starting point is 01:17:02 Chunky blow chunks. next time you're eating your peanut crunch you think about all the barf you're eating you know what I mean oh god let's do the post show

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