Kinda Funny Gamescast: Video Game Podcast - Are You Still In Love with the Nintendo Switch? - Kinda Funny Gamescast

Episode Date: June 29, 2022

Greg, Andy, and Blessing assemble to talk about if their love affair with the Nintendo Switch is over, what Cult of the Lamb is all about, and more! Time Stamps - 00:06:37 - Are You Still In Love with the Nintendo Switch? 00:56:31 - Cult of the Lamb - Preview 01:09:53 - The Cycle: Frontier Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

uh no one of the people who do the text stuff over here so here's the intro b'bom b'am b'amababab bhae bhae bhae bhae bhae bhae bhae what's up everybody welcome the kind of funny games cast I'm one of your host

Greg Miller alongside Forbes 30 under 30 aka the okay beast aka the future class of gaming blessing Annie Oye Jr. Was that the right theme song? That's the right theme song.

That's the game theme song. That has not been the Gamescast intro for no less than three or four years. You did the old one. That's the old one. That explains. Because I was like, no, that's right. But I was like, no, that's not right. That's our jingle for, yeah.

That's everything. No, that's everything. It's fucking song. And Jared comes by and Andrea comes by bam, bam, bam, bam. Yeah. You know? Yeah. 2018 all over again.

He's Hispanic heartthrob, Texas. Street. He's been a hardtop Texas Texas Street. Clicking heads. Glob chotting. It's been a day over here, ladies and gentlemen.

It's been a fucking day over here. Everybody is Andy. Hey, Andy. It's just, what a disaster. Everything's working fine, and then a thing blows up, and then every time. I'm at the point where I was like, should I just, if I just leave the call

right now, how will Greg and Blessing react? Like, if I just go for a walk, I need to get the fuck out. I was so frustrated. So if you are watching live on, you're trog watching live on patreon.com slash kind of funny games as you can we are what about 30 minutes late sorry i guess no actually we're 40 minutes late jesus christ uh and then if you're watching on youtube you'll notice that yeah there's a ghost buster's background because i couldn't download the games cast background in time and andy is just the best image of andy i could find on google

uh because andy's camera wasn't working because the andy was going so kevin is off on assignment Barrett is off in Hawaii Tim is off doing other things and so we're like we got this and so Andy was gonna I was gonna lead the show and Andy was gonna run the show and then Andy turned on his computer

and just smoke port out of it as happens a lot of times with things that aren't the steam deck and yeah I don't know Greg because like here's the thing I've been running every other show

completely fine and I opened the thing up and the program has reset everything to default and I'm like what the hell and then I reinstall and then everything's just screwed up and I was really looking forward to it

because I've never got I've never been able to run gamescast. I've been able to run in review and podcast a whole bunch. But games cast I was so excited. I had the B-roll screen up and ready, and it's just, it's just not going to work. I know this is toxic, but, you know, they call me, they call me toxic poppy in the streets. They do. Part of me was hoping, like a little bit hoping that I would see my first, like, work breakdown between Greg and Andy, both like, for me just sitting here silently for 30 minutes, watching these men just struggle to figure out how to put the show together because Andy's dealing with his own issue.

Greg's dealing with his own issues and they're like we're getting 30 minutes in. I was like somebody's gonna fucking break their desk with their fists. I will not lie to you. Well, between at least four reinstalls of Wavelink and five reinstalls of OBS, I heard Greg building the show because he is absolutely clutch and I hear him building the show blessing and I kind of I can't see him because I don't have discord up but I can hear him and I'm like, oh man, is he about to cry? I was really worried.

It's happened to Greg before. And like, I'm not trying to like drag in 2015. All right, three weeks into kind of funny. I mean, you know, but you have a kid now. You have so many extra stresses in your life. And I'm like, oh, man, I'm putting this on Greg. It's also been a long day. Like, we're all tired.

Yeah, we've all been doing it. You know, Nintendo decided to do a direct at 6 a.m. Yeah. And who does that? Yeah. And Greg, don't get me started. Best Buy. I was like, uh, Mr. Cortez will be at your house between 7.30 a.m. and 11.30 a.m. to fix your TV.

And I'm like, hell yeah. After the direct, they'll be here. Like, they're always here. They're always here like 20 minutes early. The motherfuckers get here like a 10-58. Oh, God. And I'm just like, I could have slept the whole time. I could have been napping.

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but I'll tell you about that later. For now, let's begin the show with what is and forever will be topic of the show. Tots, Tots, Tots, Tots, Tots, Tots. Gentlemen, I have a question for you. Of course, Tim Gettys is gone, which means we can finally remove the cancer that is his Nintendo bias and have a real conversation. Wow.

And so, Blessing, you woke up at the crack of dawn today, 6 a.m. you said what does Nintendo have for me in this third party direct and you got of course the personas's coming persona 5 persona 4 golden and persona 3 portable

all coming to switch great news you got mega man battle network legacy collection you get Mario rabbit sparks of hope you get portal commanding collection near automata which I know you're going to be all about right a harvestella the list goes on like this but as I look through this this morning with my cup of coffee

right and I was actually up 30 minutes before this I woke up at you know I got a kid it's the life you lead now and I looked at it and I saw and I was like oh man like I I forgot that it even happened yet Nibel was starting to I guess I must have I got up early and then saw it at six and I was like oh man here it goes and Nibel's already gone is Ben is Ben the one post in leaks he might be because he definitely doesn't know what he's talking about you know what I mean and some of these leakers definitely don't know what the hell's going on but as I look through this I'm like oh these are nice announcements will this you know I I've been waiting, you know, Persona 5 just hasn't clicked for me the way Persona 4 Golden did.

Barrett has this whole theory, which I can get buying two, that it hasn't been portable before. Maybe that's my problem. Maybe Switch would be the thing. But then I was like, oh, well, it's coming to Steam Deck as well at that point. Why would I, you know, and it just started rattling. And I got to the question of, am I, and I'll ask it to you, are you still in love with the Nintendo Switch? Oh, in love. Yeah.

It's a tough question. It's a big question. You've got to come up with your own answer. No. I am not Greg Okay And I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that I would be more in love

If I think first parties are going to be the only thing that Bring me back to love because of how my gaming Landscape has changed because I've moved Toward primarily towards PC gaming I never really portably played Anyway and now that we have been home for the past three years or whatever

I have played portably even less now And so everything is just sort of like if there's a game that's out i'm going to play it on pc because that's the easiest way for me to stream it and for it to look the highest quality i'm not going to stream a switch game it's going to look like garbo it's going to run like garbo i'll play and view the better version of it um and i think the only thing that can get me excited is hey there's a leak of a new mario game or there's a new donkey kong or metro prime for like the first part is the only thing that's

going to bring me back because because of my gaming habits, the third party landscape is ruled by my Xbox, my PS5, and my PC. I'm the same way. Yeah, I'll say right now, the Steam that kind of owns me for Indies. And I'm kind of with Andy that I am not in love

with my Switch anymore in the way that I was in love in 2017 and 2018. And I know for a lot of people that even extended into 2019 with the game output they're putting out in that year too. I don't know. For me, I've not been attached to my Switch the way I was attached to it in the last

probably two or three years. I think that comes back to what the first party output has been. And I think the thing for me is, when I say I'm out of love, it doesn't mean I can't be in love again. I just think I'll have to get a, I'll have to get that repeated output of like big switch first party stuff that excites me. I think by the time Breath of Ball 2 comes through, maybe that'll be the big thing that loose me back in again. I tossed this out on Twitter. I said, hey, are you still in love with your Nintendo Switch? Why or why not?

got a million responses. Thank you all so much for your time. Echoing kind of what you're saying right there, bless, is Mario Not Bros. You said, I'm on this cycle where I don't touch it for a month or two and then get a game there and fall in love with the magic of the Switch all over again. And I think that's part of where I'm at with it, is that I definitely, I love the Nintendo Switch, but I don't think I'm in love with the Nintendo Switch currently. Like, I don't use my Switch currently. And that's a me problem, but this is a me question, right? I don't think anybody's wrong with how they answer it. And for me, the Nintendo Switch was my, oh, I'm going on a work trip.

I'm going, I'm going away. I'm going to be on the road for a while here. What am I playing and what am I doing? I'm consuming the Indies there and I'm going through. And with 2020 derailing travel in the world we knew and completely reforming how I do my job and what I do, since I don't do that, I just don't use my switch. Like Animal Crossing obviously was a special period of my life because I love the switch. I love Animal Crossing.

And to have it there in this part where Animal Crossing was just the biggest thing in the world, right? Fuck yeah, that was awesome and amazing. And it was sitting there while Jen put on some show

she liked, but I didn't care that much for and playing my Switch and hanging out with it. And actually the show she put on during pandemic, one of the many, obviously during pandemic,

but at the Animal Crossing thing was alone, which is that Wilderness Survival show, which she fell in love with and like watch whatever, six seasons of it next to me. And I was, you know, tinkering with Animal Crossing.

And she would be too, and Lucy would come out because we were still living her at the time. play on Animal Crossing. But what I find now, like right now we're doing, there's a new season or two of alone or whatever. And so she started watching that again. And not once have I been, oh, I should go pick up my switch. It's been, oh, I'm going to remote play with my backbone and my phone. I'm going to play a remote play PlayStation. I'm going to use Xbox Game Pass. I'm

going to go get those kind of experiences there. And even where like the switch was my indie machine for so long, now I find myself, maybe it's because I'm busier with Ben and work and everything else, but waiting for them to come to PlayStation, waiting for them to come somewhere that is going to be, I don't know, better for me. Like, even in that works a little bit with Xbox where I keep talking about Moon Globe Bay and how much I loved playing that game, but how much even playing it, I was like, this needs to be on the Switch. But it is on remote play.

I just don't want to play it on that small of a screen. And now I'm going to play it on Steam Deck when I get my Steam Deck this week. Like Greg. Yeah. Do you think this is like a toy story-like situation where your Switch is alive, right? It's there with Woody and Buzz and all the toys. And your switch is like, oh, they're watching alone again. I'm going to get used.

And then you just don't use it. That's so heartbreaking to be, Greg, that I think you conditioned your switch to be, like, it's going to get some playtime. And then it just sits on the bench. If you want to, I mean, even more heartbreaking in that scenario is the fact that my switch, of course, I bought the OLED switch, right? And so my original switch, my launch model is just in the, you know, island of misfit tech in the other room in the shelves that's just been sitting sitting there collecting dust and then

i have the oled switch which in all i am a stranger to you know this thing came out in october and my son was born on the eighth of october i don't even know you who the fuck are you get i i have put no time into any i think there's nothing i've seriously played on the old ed switch because it was like it dropped and it was like oh well dread comes out and then people like oh man dread's really one of those like punishing uh metrade pain like i don't play that that. That's not something I want to get into. And then there's been a few other things where it's just then like, I'll turn it on and tinker with it and put it down. And like, you know, I wanted to do Monster Hunter the other day. And like, I took it to Quebec with me. I was up in Canada.

And I was playing the big con on it. And I was like, all right. Yeah, like it's whatever. But I find myself constantly downloading things to it. Like I got, you know, live a live, the demo, right? Or live alive alive, whatever the hell it is. Oh, yeah. I need to download that. Yeah, exactly. I'm interested to try that. I hope it gets it hooks in me and I'm totally committed. but even Project Triangle Strategy, right? Like I had been so, I loved Octopath. I played so many hours of Octopath on my original Switch. When I got that onto this and started playing with it,

it was like, oh man, like, I am just not into this kind of RPG with the grid-based combat. And so it's like, I turned it off. I was like, damn, man, I want to find something to get enraptured with on Switch again and be sucked into the Switch ecosystem because I'm similar to what Mario was talking about, what you were talking about, Bless.

there's when a game comes along that I'm like fuck yeah I'm all about it but otherwise I just feel this thing's sitting around do you feel how much of that do you put on you and how much of that do you put on the switch because I know when we're talking about the last 12 months or so or even the last six months of the switch we're talking about Metroid dread which was a game of the year contender we're talking about Pokemon Legends Arceus which was huge for a lot of people we're also talking about Kirby and the Forgottenland which was huge for a lot of people as well not even put up there as like a game of the year contender and I know probably any all three of those games I don't know if any of those speak to Greg.

And even for me, right? Like, I really liked Kirby and, like, I tried out Pokemon, thought I was going to be more into it, dropped off of it. And Metroid Dredd, I thought it was cool. I enjoyed that as well. But even those for me, I don't look at those as the, oh, this is the peak of the Switch experience here. Like, I still go back to, oh, man, not.

2017 was where it's at because it was, here's breath of the wild two. Here's Arms that I played for a day. Here's Splatoon 2 for the people I love Splatoon. Dude, people were convincing themselves left and fucking right back in the day of 2017, that arms was the shit. I was so high throughout ours. I was high to out of arms. Who were those people?

But you then also had like a bunch of indie stuff too, right? You had Jop Story. You had, I think I said Mario Odyssey, right? But as the years goes on, I have those games that I associate with Switch. You have Celeste come out in, I believe, 2018 come through and make a big impact.

And for me, that was a Switch game. In 2019, I think 2019 was big for me in the Switch because that was a, there was a stretch of Devolver Digital games that were coming out and we're fucking just killing it. Yeah, it was Apeout. It was that followed. followed by Katana Zero, followed by Gato Rabato, followed by my friend Pedro.

And I think right before Apat actually was Grie, or Gris, Chris, whatever you want to call it. Right? Like, it was game for game for game coming out from DeValry Digital, and all of them were on the Switch. And I played all of them there because, like you, the Switch was my indie machine. And as time has gone, and I don't know what, I don't know what's shifted, because even now, even before the Steam deck, I don't think I was using my Switch as the, as my indie machine. Because as I go back, the latest games I've been playing on this thing, right, have been ring fit that I put probably about. 15 to 20 hours into you I downloaded umarongi generation did not touch it on the switch um

i go back to kirby and then it is like sonic media and just shapes and beats right i i've barely touched this thing in 2022 and i don't like i it's hard for you to pin down whether that's the switch's fault or whether that's my fault in like how i like i guess the games just haven't spoken to me as much as they have in the past there it's a number of things for me where it has like i I mentioned earlier, I need the big first party Nintendo title or the third party exclusive. Like the bayonetta

or some sort of title like that where you have a highly regarded studio that is making a switch exclusive. Like an astral chain. Yeah, like an astral chain or I mean, that's really all I can think of at this one. But like

it also has to sort of be a game for me and my taste. where I think it would live better in a portable form if I had that, you know, if I needed to be in that situation. So like, if Loop Hero first came to Switch and PC, I would have gotten it on Switch because that's a game that I do want to play in bed. Incription, if Inscription came to Switch, I'd be playing that on Switch as opposed to PC because I just feel like it's kind of meant for that experience. But anything else, I'm willing to, you know, forego the portability aspect because I just don't utilize that stuff. And games like Lou Piro and games like inscription are games that I don't necessarily care about visual fidelity. I'll fucking, I'll play it on an Apple Watch because it's just, I don't need it to look great and super clear.

It just has such a great sort of handheld, it's just, I don't know, lends itself to that form a little bit more. But for you all, what would have to be the title for y'all to say, okay, I am getting this on Switch as opposed to the Steam Deck or my PS5 or my Xbox or whatever? That's the tough thing for me now is. I don't know what that title is. You know, I think when I think of indie games coming up for the Switch, the one big one that I've been waiting on forever at this point has been Sports Story. And I've been considering that as, oh, that is going to be a Switch game for me because I love Goff Story so much on the Switch. But I assume I've not double-checked.

soon as coming to PC as well. And now that I have the Steam deck, the Steam Deck, the Steam Deck has killed my indie hunger on the Switch so much. Where I go through, I pick up my Steam Deck, right? I've organized my library by time played, or not even my time played, but by the latest games I played on my Steam Deck.

And I go through it, and it is the Colt of the Land preview that I've been doing, Tales of Her Eyes, Neon White, which I put a large amount of time into. The Salaco demo, Agent 64, Spies Never Die. And these are all demos from the Steam Next Fest. melatonin, anger, and then it is Firegirl, the actual like the full game there. I've been playing

A Leckhead, Card Shark, and the list goes on and a lot of these games are getting played by me on PC slash Steam Deck because these games oftentimes come to PC first. And I think for me the big barrier to getting full on into the PC ecosystem has been a couple of things. I think part of it is just the way I associate PC with

every other aspect of life. I don't want to like sit here and do my day job and then like, you know, log off for the day and then log into a game on another tab and continue playing because it's nice to have the separation from my PC. And then I think also, you know, I'm not a mouse and keyboard person. At least yet, I'm trying to get there Andy, but like I'm not at that, don't give in, let's give in. Oh, well, people get so good at shooters on mouse and keyboard. I feel it's kind of necessary. I mean, you see me probably, you see me getting P.Bs and World Records and Young, like that's the thing is, yeah, I've seen, I've seen Andy's in Yon-Lye gameplay.

I want to remember though, Andy for, you know, the last 50 minutes hasn't been able to turn on his PC, I mean, that is also a very fair point. But the Steam deck comes through. It's a great point. It is, I described it to you before the show, Greg, as the separation of church and state, where I am playing games on my Steam deck. It is a video game device.

Like, of course, it is a piece as well, but I am here for the video games. And so I log off on my computer at the end of the day, sit on my bed or sit in the living room, and sit wherever, and play games that not only are handheld and portable, like a switch, but also look crisp. You know, like the Switch also has that just built-in thing of it is not as powerful as these other consoles that have come out. And so after years at this point of playing a PS5 or playing the Xbox Series X and seeing games run in performance mode with character models that look crisp with frame rates that are smooth.

I go back to the Switch. I boot up Pokemon Legends RCS and I go, yuck. Like, oh, this looks gross. Get this out of my face. Like, this looks disgusting. And, like, you know, that it's not the end-all be-all necessarily, but it is. I think a lot of chip damage toward me choosing

yeah my excitement me wanting to lean toward the steam deck experience or the PC experience or the PS5 experience as opposed to my switch for indie games at least One of the things that happened here in the live chat on patreon.com slash kind of funny games was Alex G3B who said when I was talking about like oh you know the switch I'm just not motivated and yada you know

This is totally going to be Greg talking about his steam deck when he gets at lull and you know I understand or whatever and to put all the Greg character aside in about the steam deck and leaving it and yada out I really am going to be fast because I don't think it will be. Like, I really do think the Steam deck and exactly what you're talking about,

Bless, is such an easy access. And I don't think people understand the amount of Steam keys we get on a given day about all sorts of different indies and all sorts of different games. I really do feel that with the Steam deck, I'm going to be redeeming these things and while Jen does whatever,

or while, you know, while Jen's watching a show I don't care about or putting Benjamin down, but I'm just sitting upstairs. Like, I do feel like I'm way more inclined to pop on. to do that and play that. And again, when I'm referencing that, like, I'm thinking right now specifically, you can put

aside the, which is a true thing of how much I want to play Sega Master's System, Ghostbusters again. But Moon Globe, where it's like, technically, what is stopping me from Jen's doing whatever in putting Ben down or watching a show and me popping onto remote play or X cloud or whatever and playing Moon Globet that way, right? It's the size of my screen on my phone. You know what I mean? My phone obviously is not nearly as big as the Steam Deck's going to be.

And, like, there's those little quality of life things. and not to mention the fact that it's natively running on the device rather than having to do, there's a bunch of timing stuff, which I'm sure isn't bad. A LianC isn't bad on either remote play or cloud. But I just don't actually see it being the same conversation. And I mean, let's be frank, right? I mean, I'm Greg Miller and I've been covering PlayStation for 15 years, right?

Like, I'm not going to wake up with the Steam Deck. I'm like, you know what? I'm done with trophies and I'm done with trying to. Like, I'm still going to probably request every third-party game I can get on PlayStation. But I feel like I'll be using Steam Deck way more for Discovery in a way that you know Nintendo isn't like there's so much

wrapped up in this and write 10 don't so much wrapped up in this and the fact that like you know you mentioned Kirby

uh Pokemon in Metroid right and how those are you know for many people were in the year contenders last year

and really didn't move the needle for me for multiple reasons I guess Pokemon was this year but you understand I'm saying

yeah and it's the idea that there's so much still wrapped up in the fact that like I know it sounds weird but I'm a Sega kid

and that's not the fanboyism of it it's the I have have no nostalgia for any of that. It does that, you know what I mean? Like I have no, I didn't play a Metroid game until I was probably at, oh, I watched Metroid Prime in college on a GameCube, right? But I don't, I don't have a soft spot for Kirby or for Metroid or for whatever, for, you know, smash and

cart for sure. And those are like, you know, tent pole Nintendo things. But in general, when I look at a dread and I hear like, oh, it's just, it just doesn't sound like something I want to play. It's not that I want to get into it just because it's Nintendo. And like Kirby, oh, well, it's cute and it's ingenious and it's kind of like Mario Odyssey and it's like well but it's not Mario Odyssey. Like I like Mario. I don't know who this is. It's better than Mario Odyssey. Yeah.

Like there's, and I hear that and I understand that but there's also then the part of the job is like well there's enough people championing that I don't need to go out and like know that. It's like the Nintendo Switch is still going to be this Nintendo thing to me that and like I just am not a Nintendo person as much as I've tried whether it was, you know, falling in love with Super Mario World or loving my NES or having a bunch of great stuff on Gabe been playing the Wii and yet it's just I've never crossed over through that looking glass where I'm like I always feel like an outsider watching Nintendo Direct and I don't know why and I think

some of it is like and this is like a broader conversation but I'm enjoying this therapy session with y'all is the fact that like you know I'm really not I'm I really don't I usually don't vibe with Japanese games right like I mean you look at my history of like the fact that I just have tried persona 5 over and over again I love persona 4 Golden I loved persona 3 but it's just like I cannot do the turnbase system. I cannot do that. And yes, there are a million exceptions. I love Monster Hunter World and the list goes on.

You like Ojima games. Exactly. I'm not saying it's like clearly this, but it is that thing of like, well, there's Zeno Blade and there's this. And even like, you know, bless at Summer Game Fest, we went and did Soul Hackers too.

And I was like, yeah, this seems cool. And then we got into the tournament and I'm like, I want to code for it and I want to try and I'm always hopeful that it'll be, again, an exception to the rule, that that'll be what hooks me, makes me want to play it. But, like, I still feel like I'd rather go play King of Omelor re-reckoning, right?

And enjoy that kind of gameplay and that Western kind of RPG than that, if that makes sense. No, because you have good taste, Greg. Thank you very much. You don't, I won't say that, Andy. Okay. The Japanese games are great. You know, right, yeah, I'm trying to think of, like, yeah, he's my, like, who's my ally here? A full stop to you.

Anthony Corbett says Greg needs to play Yakuza. Anthony, IGN.com. Go check out my, like, four fucking Yakuza reviews. I've played Yakuza. I'm glad you all caught up and like it. I've had enough of Yakuza because the games are all the same and I've got to push away

from the fucking bell at some point. Let me, this has been a great therapy session, Greg. But I totally agree with you when it comes to turn-based stuff. I wish I could get into it. God, I wish, and like, again, Octopath. Yeah, you guys, I love Octopath.

It's up to the play, y'all, you know? There's some good ass turn-based games out there. Here's a thing, bless. It's like, you know, I'm, you know, preaching and I'm like just speaking, gospel to people about that. Like, yes, you know, we don't need

fucking the Star Wars game by a spire. What the hell am I talking about? The remake. Cotor. We don't, Cotor needs to be a real-time combat game. It does not need to be a turn-based game. Nobody wants to wield like nobody likes Cotor

because of its turn-based combat. They love it because of the story. And everybody who says it like, oh, you would change the way the game operates. And No, nobody, you didn't like Cotor for the turn-based combat. Let's be real. You liked it for the decisions and the story and the twists and turns and all that shit. I just wanted to get that out of the way.

Greg, I've never given a shit about this man, Kirby. This game is amazing. Kirby is amazing, dude. Having just beat it over the weekend, it, like, it blew me away in so many different ways that I never thought this fucking little dude could blow me away and suck me in as well. He blows and sucks you away. He sucked me into an experience and he blew me away with it. Kirby like shot up crazy in my game of the year type stuff.

Like I was not expecting it to be there and the level of hype it brought the level of fun with these boss fights that I was not expecting to have really any level of, you know, needing dexterity or like quick reactions and shit. Some of the boss fights are so damn creative. The game is endlessly fun and just a joy and God damn. Tim was right. Tim was right. That's such an energy.

Yeah, and I'm like, I'm right there with you, Andy. Like, I think Kirby is incredible. I will say, I don't, I don't know if Kirby is for Greg. Like, knowing Greg's taste now, like, hot cast and the Greg for multiple years now, I don't know if Kirby is a game that I would recommend to Greg Miller. I think there's a chance where I plays it and likes it, but I wouldn't be like Greg, you're the one that needs to play this Kirby game. Yeah, for sure.

And it's part of the, again, like, why I just don't feel like I'm in love with. with the switch. I definitely love it and I definitely respect it and I've enjoyed my time with it. I'm not at all bashing it, right? But I've always said on podcasts and I mean for years and gotten grief for it, right? It's like, Nintendo makes toys and I don't mean that as an insult. I just mean their games are meant to inspire joy and be fun and you get in there and you play with the toys in the world and you do your thing, right? But I just, that's so, that's not what I usually want from a game. Like I want my games to be fun, don't get me wrong and enjoyable, but like I want the story. I, you know, it's the joke Andy, you know, does she have an estranged father? Does this, is this main character going

through puberty? Is there like some kind of life changing the narrative wrapped around them or whatever to where just having a cool boss fight? It's what I was talk about of like if gaming had never really changed from the 8-bit era, right? I wouldn't like games. I want to be who I am. And I know that's I'm boiling something down, but I'm trying to make a point right that like while gameplay is king, it can't just be the like Metroid. And all be all. Go do this thing. You know, start at one side of the screen, get to the other. Like, it's the reason, like, I look at Cuphead, I'm like, Cuphead is gorgeous. Not even the

hardness of Cuphead. It's the design of Cuphead of. Playing through a level, dying halfway, having to go back and restart and do it all over again. That kind of shit drives me mad. To where you have to memorize, like, where an enemy's going to be and do it. And then you beat that screen, you get to the next screen, and there's another thing to learn, and you go back, and you have to do it over and over again and commit that to memory and muscle memory. I'm like,

I get while people love that. It's just not why I like games. Yeah. And people say that kind of funny that we're all just an echo chamber. the same opinions. We clearly don't. We have such a wide breath of, like, you know, blessing. He's into the, you know, half-naked women and stuff in games. And, and

what is, what is that? What did that happen? Are you talking about near Atonautamina? First all, that game has one of the best stories. That's better than any of the stories that Greg Miller's out here playing, you know, life is strange. Actually, I love life strange. Don't, come on. Come on. We're having a nice therapy, Chess, don't come throw shots at me.

But, no, to actually, we'll be back around because, you know, I was actually going to make a similar point that Andy's making right now, the fact that, you know, I think people come to games for such, one, people come to games for different things, but also I think different design ethos speak to different people in different ways, which sounds very obvious, but also in the way that Greg talks about how, you know, you lean into story, right? Like, you love character development, you love, you love experiencing games. I remember you describing last part, too, as being like this good book that you can get into and, like, you know, you're invested from beginning to end. I'm sure plenty of people would look at you and go, well, Zeno Blade Chronicles 3 is about to come out. I was about to have a fantastic, fantastic story. Or I'm sure there's, like, plenty of games on the Switch right now that people would point to, but still wouldn't speak to Greg Miller because I think when you boil it down to the design ethos of what Nintendo goes for a lot of the time and what games designed for the Switch go for a lot of

the time, like a lot of times they're speaking to the nerds that are not the same kind of nerds as Greg Miller. Sure. Like I play a lot of the same, or I have played a lot of the same, like, games on the PlayStation side, right, as you, Greg Miller, because we're on PS Love You and are going through all these things. going through all like these these these these first out every Friday morning going through like PlayStation first party games

and action games all these things right and Gardens of the Galaxy is a game that I played through I actually didn't finish it or I probably played like 80% of it got there and was like I can't do this anymore because this gameplay setup bores me and I think that's a common that's a combination of Gardens of the Galaxy not necessarily being the cream of the crop

of that type of third person action game like has a great story has great characters great visuals all that of the gameplay bored me. But then also, like, I'm not somebody who naturally wants to get into Assassin's Creed. Even Ghost of Sushima, that type of game is not an automatic type of game that I want to flock to you.

The reason why I got Superina Gold Sushima is just because that game was fantastic. But generally, when it comes to an open world, third person, Far Cry type of game, or even a dying light type of game, typically I am not looking forward to build... And you're saying all these things like, like my eyes are lighting up.

I'm like, oh, yeah, let's go. It's like, oh, fuck, the synapses are firing. But I think that comes back to why you're such a trophy person, and I'm not, right? Like, you like that completionist energy. You like going through search and for stuff, like taking a world in, finding what's behind the corners and all that shit, right?

You like getting a platinum and popping that stuff. I like fighting people in fighting games, right? Greg, you don't want to Greg, or... No, I was just, I was popping off at Greg. It was really, the one time we did Bless Sue, Blessing, or we did a Kind of Feudy, where the topic was, name a Greg game. And we were all just name a game that Greg evangelizes.

And we know, we went through our padapons and stuff. And it was Jeff Grubbs serving. He was like, ah, let's see. What's a bad game? It got me real good. It got me real. That was funny. But yeah, like, I think there's often times where those wires cross and, like,

Greg will get into it. And, like, I know Greg loved fucking, like, are you enjoyed Final Fantasy Seven remake? Oh, yeah. No, I loved it. I don't know. You loved breathful of all that stuff. And I don't know if those are natural Greg games by any means.

And there are times. where I love those the like the games I'm talking about as well but yeah like the switch I think is just aimed toward an entirely different audience and I think that audience for the most part enjoys that output but then I also look at the output right now and switch right now reminds kind of reminds me of where Marvel is right now with the MCU in terms of we've experienced infinity war we've experienced end game and now here's just a bunch of stuff that we're throwing out a wall and we'll see if some of the sticks right no way home was fucking dope but then like not everybody likes internals not everybody likes strange, but you guys like Wanda Vision, right? Yeah, pretty much. And, like, you know, it's kind of

all over the place. I went to Nintendo's website. If you go to Nintendo.com slash SG slash schedule. They have like a release schedule for the rest of the year. And going through it, starting in June, it's Mario Straters, Battle League, Fireman Warriors, Three Hopes, Zeno Blade Chronicles 3, Splatoon 3, Pokemon, Scarlet, and Pokemon Violet, and then Bayan at a 3. And it's like, that is a specific group of people that are playing those video games. Like, I don't know if any of those are going to be Greg Miller hits, Andy Cortez hits, or even Blessing hits. Actually, I might enjoy being at a three

because the half-naked women thing. But, yeah, like, I think Nintendo is kind of an odd place with their releases where it feels like they're in between phases. You know, they're not released the Mario Odyssey 2s. Like, the Breath of Wild twos are still coming up. Like, there's a lot of sequels that I think we're

still sitting on and a lot of exciting stuff that they're still sitting on because they're between a lot of studios making games right now. That makes sense. Step it up Nintendo. Well, no, it's one of those, again, like, I think it's very much this is an interesting topic for us and me, right, from where I'm feeling of the fact that I just don't turn on my Switch, like, ever. And I guess I turn on download stuff and I rarely play stuff on it. And like, you know, blessing with the Steam Deck and Amy just where you are as a PC gamer. But, like, if,

you know, we all feel like we're all, it all sounds like we're all like, eh, on the Switch, right? But in response to the tweet, like, overwhelmingly everybody was down, right, on it, like, they liked it. Nate Fletcher said, I am in, are you in, are you in, are you in, love. I am. I just bought the OLED and it's totally changed my handheld experience for me. Games look like they have an actual visual upgrade. What is it? Yeah, I found a new, this is Brigh. I found a new love for it after Xenoblade Chronicles definitive edition released, which led me to play two and Tornah, and now I want it and now I wait in pure anticipation for three. Prior to that, I wasn't too much a fan of it.

KJ. Rodin said, even though I'm more of a PlayStation guy, my Switch is my favorite console, mainly because of how convenient it is to play a lot of fun games on the go, like when I'm riding the subway or waiting for a doctor's appointment. Again, like, I think that's such a great. The way people talk, like, the switch reminds me, and stick with me in so many ways or the way my PSP reviews read. When I was covering PSP for IGN, like, all my reviews were about being on the train or waiting for something.

And people from the Midwest would read this where I, you know, I came from. And just be like, I didn't buy a PSP because I just don't go anywhere. Like, I'm not, I don't, I'm, if I'm going somewhere, I'm in my car and then I'm there. I'm not like, I don't need to kill time. I'm not on a plane. I don't need to go do this. It's just not what it's about for me. Which I thought was an interesting way of like, oh, right.

Like, it's all about use cases with it. And I think, again, it'd be very interesting if the pandemic hadn't happened, how much I'd still be using my switch. Or if I, you know, hopefully would have gotten a steamback faster and would have turned over quicker. Blessing. Do you think? Yeah, when it comes to just portability and if the pandemic hadn't hit and I likely would have been traveling more. I would have definitely had a lot more situations where I'm going,

do I get that on Switch? Do I get it on this other device? You know, and I would battle with that often back in the day. And I just haven't had to give that a second thought at all recently. Do you think part of it, too, is what our roles are as people who keep up with video games and play them for work and we're onto the next thing constantly in terms of the next video game releases versus what probably a lot of the audience experiences with the Nintendo Switch, which is the Switch being this evergreen system with evergreen games. And so, like, you pick up a switch right now and it is cool. I can go back and buy Mario Odyssey because Mario Odyssey is always a game that's going

to be in Vogue or Mario Kart or Zelda and the list goes on or Animal Crossing, right? Like, you know, I, the, the, for the way we play games, right, I think we get excited about what's going on with PlayStation because we have Lastest Part 1 on the Horizon, no pun intended with the Horizon thing. But then we're coming off of Horizon, right? And like, after Last is Part 1, it'll be God of O'Ragnar. And after that, it's going to be Spider-Man 2. And there's always a big juggernaut that we know we can look forward to.

That is, you know, there always feels like there's something big and exciting. Even on Xbox with Xbox Game Pass, they're starting to have that now, too, where it is. Oh, man, this following Game Pass, you're going to get an XYZ thing. You're going to get this. You're going to get that. Whereas on the Switch, so many people are experiencing it as, no, I am playing Mario Kart still. I am playing Mario Odyssey still. I am playing Warrior Ware or any of these franchises that are bringing back the games that you love from your childhood.

And it is this constant, like the same games selling like, you know, juggernaut sales numbers because they're sticking around so long. I definitely, it comes down to use cases and who you are and what you're expecting and how you play. Right? Because again, like, so many of the people who wrote in to respond to the question were very much like either, Yes, I'm in love with it or no, I'm not in love with it, but it doesn't matter because I only bought it for exclusivity, right? I bought it for the Nintendo games. Michael Elliott wrote in. I was personally never in love with it.

It's a platform I have to own for Metroid and Zelda. I imagine it's great for mobile gaming, but I don't do that either. So it's like doubling down on what we already said, right? But it is this idea that, like, my Switch experience is the tent poles. It is the cart. It is the Odyssey. It is the Zelda, right? the franchises that matter to me and Animal Crossing.

And so in that respect, like, I'm totally satisfied with what I bought. And I think especially for Nintendo fans coming off of Wii U, right, God, they've got to be so happy because guess what, you have an amazing piece of hardware, an awesome idea for it to be, you know, portable or go. You have the tent pole stuff you imagined and they're all great so far, with the exception of all the sports games, god damn it.

And then on top of that, you have these great indies, you have third-party support, you have a system that's sold well, so it is getting all these different things. And again, if you're that Nintendo fan and that's what you're drawn to, those type of games, then fuck yeah, it's got to be all systems go. And then to your point blessing, yeah, it is that people usually, you know, don't consume games the way we consume games, which is get it for a week.

It's all you do. You talk about it. You hit the review embargo or, you know, you talk after the fact and then you move out of the next thing, unless it's something special, right? Unless it's like, and I guess it's still in the window, but unless it's something like you guys with neon white of chasing leaderboard scores and sharing that online and doing these different things. like i think part of i think part of it for me gregg also just it kind of echoing something you mentioned

earlier with uh wanting to stick and assuming you're going to stick with your steam deck is that a lot of these in my mind i could be completely wrong but in my mind a lot of these newer indie titles are getting their steam releases first and when i think of what do you see every time right Andy, it's, this is, here's this hot, cool indie, and it's coming to steam, and then it's like the roll, it's like the roll-a-it-tac-it-it-it-it, is it going to be Xbox, PlayStation, or Switch? Who's got the exclusive launch of it? And when it does come to those, it'll be seven months later, or five months later, or a month later or whatever.

Yeah. And that seems to be... Still waiting to the rescue on Switch, right? Like, I had been so excited for this dog-y-sheltsil simulator. And then when they got ready for launch, they're just going to be PC, it'll get there eventually. And that seems to be pretty common. And when I think of indies that are going to switch, I think of shitty blotware. Like, I'm sorry.

That's just how I feel whenever I hear what's coming to MamaGrob shops on Kind of Funny Games daily. It's always just a lot of shitty blotware. Oh, and they really kind of stand out indie title that you all might be interested in. But for the most part, it is, it feels like a lot of cheap mobile games that are getting hit there so that they could just try to make as many sales as possible. And it's a $4 game. And that's kind of just, it sucks it. That's how I feel about it. But that's just kind of the reality for me.

When I think of indies that are coming out that are things you need to wish list on Steam, it is in my eyes usually a developer who is wanting to get showcased on Steam Next Fest and maybe trying to be that next breakout Hades title or inscription or something like that. And when I think of Switch Indies, I think of the complete opposite experience where it's just quantum. quantity, quantity, quantity over quality. Yeah. The Switch indie thing is so interesting, because I think there's a bit of both.

You know, there's like so much blow. Like, as we were talking to India, I went on the Switch store just to see what it looks like on recent releases, because, you know, we do have those days often on KFD where it is, what the fuck are these games? Like, this is a generator that we're going through. And even as I look, right, like, you know, the game, in recent releases,

it has Portal, the Companion Collection, which came out today, a game called Lil Noah Sullen of Paradise, which looks like some random, I don't know, actually, it looks like a 2D action game. It looks interesting actually, no mind. But yeah, Brou shunana. You know what? I just found a great switch indie, everybody. Yeah, you know what I mean? I might purchase this.

There's a game called Squish. There's can Android survive? But then you have casual gaming bundle. And then there's a retro racing bundle. These games look garbage. Family bundle. And then like a bunch of games that look like that, right? But then you get Fire Memorial's Three Houses.

You get Capcom fighting and collection. You get AI, the Somnium. files and then you kind of get back to a lot of obscure games again. But like when it comes to that, the Switch I think does have the Indies that matter the most in terms of the ones that are really going to hit. Like when I talk to people about playing Hades, right, if I'm talking to a friend who may not be a super gamer like you and me are Andy, you know, they might not be super ingrained in the ecosystem.

I mean, me and India are out there grinding me on white. I don't see you playing Neon Lake, Greg. I'm sorry. That's not a great game at all. Yeah, exactly. Maybe you could be, you know. Get on a mouse and keyboard, Greg. Let's both get into it.

I would love it and bless. It's just like, get the fucking mouse and keyboard. Greg, what are you thinking? Let's do it. Oh, fuck, I forgot how I was going on. Oh, no, but like if I asked a random person, right, who might casually be in any video games, oh, you're playing Hades?

Oh, what are you playing Hades on? Oh, I'm playing it on Switch. You know, like, that is going to come up as a, for sure. Common kind of answer for those types of games. Like, the indie games that you're thinking of as the bit, like the celeste of the world, like the big indie games that make their way to switch,

that bumps us. up the library, I think enough for the people that are pretty much primarily there for the first party stuff to then extend their way and play those games that that audience for the most part is sustained. Of course, that audience is always asking for more because I think we're all always asking for more and the switch compared to any other platform, I think tends to mess out on primarily like big AAA third party stuff, but then like you're talking about the indies that come to switch or come to PC first because PC is that open platform where it's easy to develop for, it's easy to get stuff on there compared to anything else.

The Switch, I think, does its job well enough that, for the most part, it's fine, right? And, like, who knows, I think a year from now, if we're still in the same place, that becomes a problem of, okay, no, for real, where are the Switch games? Like, what is going on here? But I think they get enough of the Indies that matter that it's not as big of an issue. I think my problem with it is also just store moderation and visibility. And whenever there's an indie title that pops off on PC, you're going to hear about it from a lot of different outlets. If it kind of shocks a lot of people and it's like, holy shit, this is like a must play indie title from this unknown developer. When it's on, I look at the Switch Mobile Sword like the way I look at when I open the Android App Store.

Like that's the sort of comparison I'm thinking where I just think this is going to be this is a $2 cash grab with a bunch of like microchurches. transactions or something like that like that's a level of quality i look at where i don't think that the store necessarily has a whole lot of um moderation and trying to filter the best stuff like curation you feel steam yeah i i think when an indie title breaks out it's easier for me to hear about it on steam i think you can open up the steam store and just see a bunch of bullshit like you would on on the nintendo as a non-n pf first of I want you to keep going. But as a non-PC player,

I turn on Steam, and I'm overwhelmed, and I'm just like, what the fuck? There's so much shit that's out all over the place, and it's usually some fucking world war simulator. I don't know what the fuck's going on.

But on the flip-flop, as somebody who looks at the e-shop, way more, and is in the e-shop, the e-shop also is just like, here's a whole bunch of fucking shit. Here's a fire hose of content, and here's a whole bunch of stuff we've pinned,

and one-two switch is still $50 fucking dollars. Here you're like, for, like, inside baseball, right? Like, when we do KFD and we're putting together together the doc, there's a write-up that Zach's Weizen at Kotaku does called This Week in Gaming. Sometimes does. Every now and then

he doesn't do, every now and then he doesn't do it. And what I do is I go on Steam and I look at like okay, what are the recently released games? What games came out today? And I organized by date. And it is a bunch of garbage. It is like, what the fuck are any of these games? These can't be real games. These are like

fucking five cents each. Like stuff like that where it's like, holy shit, I can't believe you guys are putting this on here. Yeah. I guess when I go to the e-shop When I open the feature tab, there's going to be Nintendo exclusives and there's going to be third-party titles that I already know about. And when I open Steam and I see like the new and noteworthy section where it is curated sections of brand new indie titles or stuff that's on sale that maybe came out last year that just completely passed me by. And I see a genre that I'm interested in. It just feels like I'm getting less of the bloat near the top on the Steam store.

Gotcha. That's very fair. And Steam also has things like Steam Next Fest, which I think takes it to another level. And I wish Nintendo and even Xbox and PlayStation. Xbox has like some stuff like that. PlayStation and Switch in particular, I wish they did more stuff like the Steam Next Fest because that's been really great for me in Discovery. And for those who don't know what Steam Next Fest is, is legit.

like just a, hey, here's a bunch of games that are coming to the platform that look dope as fuck, and they all have demos. Come through, play the demos. Switch, switch especially for what we're talking about, I think could use that level of curation, because I do see the same exact thing. I feel like if I'm looking for new indie games that are come to the Switch platform, usually all just organized by bestselling. And any of the notable indie games usually pop up on there, but it's not always, right? Like, it's so easy to miss out on exciting stuff on there. Yeah, I'm just opening up the Steam store.

I just look at the, you know, the... I love their logos right now for this Steam 3,000 summer sale. They got a lot of... They're having a lot of fun over here. Yeah. They've always usually, like, some kind of cool... So here it is, yeah. I mean, why wouldn't I want to go play Europa?

You're in a Valsales for... Knock it off with all this stuff. You know what I mean? Make real games about Spider-Men. That's what you gotta do. Make me stick to my son. The other day, the other day they did have the... Before Steam Next Fest,

They had a section where all the, I think it was like this, the season of rogue or the something of rogue or it was just like, hey, here's a bunch of really popular rogue lights or Metroidvanias or Souls likes. And it was just kind of like, we're showcasing this genre for about a week and a half. And here's all these titles that if you are interested, I just feel like they do a much better job of having events like you were mentioning blessed like Steam Next Fest or even like the steam summer sales there's always just kind of some titles that you may have had an eye on two years ago and now you're like oh shit that's on sale now i do want to buy the raft this you know

that survival game where you're on a raft and sharks are trying to eat you and shit i just feel like less of the less of the bloat gets filtered towards the top on steam i will say i am ready for a switch i feel like i feel kind of kind of scared to say these words actually but i'll say it anyway, because I'm brave. Switch Pro. Like some next iteration of the Switch. Because I'm at the point, it has to be coming.

And I'm at the point where I'm like, I don't know what to ask for anymore in terms of new switch games. Like, obviously I'm asking for Metroid Prime 4, and I'm asking for the return of Earthbound. And there are the more niche stuff that I have the request for. But in terms of the big Nintendo games, I feel like all them are out. Like, we just got Mario Strikers.

Like, what else can you give me in terms of the big stuff that you'd expect to come to the platform? And I think that kind of comes back to how tired I am when it comes to the way these games run and the way these games look. It just feels like it's time to refresh and then give me the full-ass work.

The next switch isn't going to, like, Nintendo is not going to, we've learned this time and time again. The next switch isn't going to like be, here is great online. Here's, you know, our game is really adapting. It's not going to be, hey, here are stunning visuals for every Nintendo game.

Even though they'll look better than the switch currently, they'll still be like we're sticking with that Nintendo art style or whatever why I mean I don't mind the I don't mind the art style I think when Nintendo is at their best their games look gorgeous it's like when I I think Odyssey is still one of the best looking games because I just think when the hard wars in the right hands a lot can be done with it but sometimes you get you know crappy Mario golf looking games and that that game will just for has forever scarred me with like how can a Nintendo game look like this when we've had so many gorgeous titles and Kirby

Forgotten Land looks amazing like that's another title that I feel like when the switch hard doors in the right hands things can look great I don't really mind much about the art style that just give me a higher res and and 60 frames like I'm not I think that's the thing I care about more I don't need ray tracing I'm not trying to play the next latest gen game I would love to open up Breath of the Wild on my switch and have it run in 60 frames at 1440p or something like that. Yeah, I don't need, I don't need, you know, 60 FPS 4K ray tracing on the switch. I just need, like, I need to not see the jaggies on the characters, right?

I don't need to see the jagged edges. You know, I want, I think just a bit more power to, like, kind of bring it up to a, an acceptable place. Now that we are on, now that we have so much tech that has pushed way beyond what the switch is doing, I think just a little bit of catch up would go a long way. A little bit of juice, bless me. A little, a little bit of juice. And, you know, I don't think the next iteration of all the games that we get at every generation for Nintendo,

I don't think the next iterations of Breath of Wild or, or I should say Zelda, actually, next iteration of Zelda or Mario or Mario Kart or whatever needs to have Tech be the driver for, this is why we're putting out the next iteration. Here's Mario Kart, but now it's in 4K. Like, I don't need that as the selling point. Give me a Mario game with a new art style. Give me a Mario cart that has different mechanics or whatever. And, you know, if technically it feels just a minor step forward, at least a step forward.

For me, that's about enough for what the switch is. But even though Steam Deck, I think, is proven the power you can put into something handheld. And I'm sure Nintendo doesn't want to make their next handheld as fat as the Steam Deck. But hey, I don't care about power. They never have. That won't be their thing. That's what it will be. I will say.

Not to mention they're not going to turn their back on the Switch install base right now. Oh, yeah. We keep making a game for that Switch. so it's like, yeah, it can only look so much better on whatever the next thing is. I will say after not picking up my Switch for a while because I've been on the Steam Deck train for the last few months, picking up my Switch, just to mess around with it for this episode. Man, this thing, I fucking love the Switch.

Just like in terms of design. Because this shit, this is just a fucking tablet. You said it at all right. You're like, I love this Switch. Yeah, well, I guess, you know, it's a love-hate relationship. It's better. Whatever he'd tell... When Blessing first got the Steam Deck, it was like,

man, I pick up the Steam, but like, God, the Nintendo Switch feels like shit. Yeah. Now that it's been so long, I pick it up, and I'm like, oh, man, this is funny. I miss you. I miss you. This is always greener, blessed. As someone who's steamedic is in the mail right now and on the way and will be delivered shortly.

I think what I found really interesting, Bless, when you let me grab your steamed deck, and this goes out to everybody who hasn't grabbed a steam deck yet, was how it didn't feel super heavy. Like, people had made it out. Oh, man, it's heavy in the switch. It's going to, uh, yeah. And like, when I grabbed it off from you at the airport, I was like, oh, shit, fuck, this ain't nothing.

Yeah, no, it's not that bad. I think it's bulky, but it's not, you know, it's not a huge piece of machinery by any means. Ladies and gentlemen, we're excited to see you hate us in the comments for if you're still off the Nintendo Switch, but let us know. Every different strokes for different folks. You know how it is over there. But if you didn't know, you could also go to patreon.com slash kind of funny games over on patreon. com slash kind of funny games.

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Andy, do you like Cult of the Lamb? Yes. expound well you guys have these preview codes what's up with that how do I get that what the hell did you play call to the lame I just downloaded a demo

it looks like it seems like it's fine for then you played it fine how much of because how much have you played Greg and Andy I just got in before this I've always had my eye on it and then when you guys were both like oh let's preview called the lamb at that second half of the show I was like oh shit so I downloaded my code and got it and started

playing it so I've only done like I've done the through the intro I've got my cult. I've started, you know, I chopped up the tree, I made them food, and then I went out to go get more cult members, and I'm on the first run of that. I'm super early. So Greg, so you fultened back your cult members

to work on mother base. Yeah. Isn't it the... No, I didn't see it. Okay, I'll bring it up over here. Hold on. You can keep going. This, don't stop the show for it.

Anyway, yeah, I absolutely loved this game. I only was able to play the demo, and I thought it was a scripted death when I lost to the first show. boss and then Clara one of the PR people told me that no it's not a scripted death you just died so that kind of broke my heart this game in the same way that rogue legacy two really surprised me with having some of the tightest controls 2D wise this game feels so clean and smooth to control in that 3d space it is a isometric sort of top down game it's sort of played at like a

three quarters view art style incredibly unique like you are essentially just these two-d cutouts on a 3D sort of plain world imagine like a non-pixelated version of triangle strategy or something like that or octopath traveler whatever sure the art style is just like super crisp really nice easy on the eyes really awesome concept of you are essentially you are essentially you You were killed and you were brought back to life by this devil who's like, hey, we're going to put you back on Earth because I want you to build a cult in my name. And you save somebody who's in trouble and then that person becomes your first sort of devoted member of your cult. And if everybody's watching, this is my first cultist right here. Named a Mandy Cortez.

Oh, really? Oh, you've been doing that to you? I've been doing the same thing. I named, I named my first cultist bitch-ass Greg. Oh, well, Greg Getty's going to be pretty pissed about that. that when he finds out. We should probably call him right now and let him know. Cool Greg would take that too seriously if I did that.

Handy did one. It was so damn cool to bring back the little dude home, and then you're essentially building a home base, much like mother base in Metal Gear. You're fultening back your little members, and you're sending it back to chop down trees and build a little place to make food so that you could eventually feed your cult members.

You have to kind of resource manage, and keep everything working back at your home base while also adventuring and going out into the world and essentially dealing with this sort of roguelight boss rush area where you're going through different rooms and this room, I could go straight to the boss or I could go to this room that might have an upgrade that could upgrade this one ability to the next thing

which then gives me more damage in firepower. Or there's another ability here that I prefer to the one I have right now. It has those roguide hooks, but with the sort of added system of a home base kind of manager builder, it's just really dope. And I was really bummed out when the demo ended because I just want the game to be out right now. Bussing, you feel in the same way? Yeah, I absolutely adore it, right?

I put in almost three hours into the build that we got with the preview codes. And it's funny because on PSLO-UX-O-X-O, I have been talking. a lot about Dark Cloud over the years and how, man, Sony, Japan Studio, whoever, should bring back Dark Cloud because Dark Cloud would be such a hit in 2022. When you're talking about how big rogue lights have become in the last few years, when you're talking about how big games like Animal Crossing and a lot of other semi-type games have become, there is every single reason to bring back Dark Cloud, which is a game that is half Rogue Light and then the other half is building a town, talking to people in your town, finding resources, all that stuff, yada-y-y-y-y-a-modern version of that.

I've been talking about how that would be a banger, and Coltel of the Lamb is basically just that. It was obviously very different from Dark Cloud, different systems. But at its core, it is, hey, here's half rogue light where you're going, you're going into these dungeons, you're fighting through, you're completing challenges, but you're also finding coins, you're finding villagers, you're finding resources to bring back to your coal. And then, yeah, the other half of the game is you being in your coal and, like, managing it, and building up structures and preaching sermons for some reason. and like doing all of the simy elements of stuff that usually in any other game wouldn't hit for me

because I am not a sim kind of person for the most part. Again, like I do like Dark Cloud, but that was even less simy than what this game is. Sure. But in this game, it's doing it for me. And I think that's partly because the cult theme is really fun and kind of ridiculous in ways that I think really make it work. You know, you're playing as a lamb. That's why it's called Colts of the Lamb because you are the land that is leading this cult. And then eventually you can name your cold.

and I named my cult, blessings cult. Of course, because you have to. I've been finding ways to, you know, have some meta fun with it. So I've been naming all of my cultists after people I know and friends. You got to. That's how you got to do. It's like when you played NHL-94. You built your team with everybody on it.

I've seen so many people do that with XCOM, and I'm like, oh, I want to do that sometime. And this game seems like the game to do it in. And so, like, you know, I've named, don't tell Bear at this. I named one of them Bear Bear, and I named one of them Raj. And I named like another one, Sarah and Yosef and Belinda. I'll eventually get around. to naming some Greg and Andy.

Don't worry, guys, I got you. But yeah, like, I've been having that level of fun with it. Where I'm going through, I am talking to my different cultists, taking on missions that then adjust your relationship with those cultists. And so, like, the more you fulfill their objectives, or the more you, like, you know, give them blessings or whatever, that then helps increase that relationship to keep that toltest around. I don't know what the, I don't know how far that goes.

I think cultists can die. Coltis can turn on other cultists, it seems like, but I'm not taking those systems to the, at the grade. Right, that's one of the things. You have to keep them feds. You have to go ahead and you have to keep the fire going. You have to make the thing. You have to do this stuff.

Exactly. And yeah, like I'm really enjoying it. You know, it is such a great art style. And the characters are really adorable, which, again, I think it adds a lot to it having this really dark, you know, fucked up, culty, but also comedy-driven tone to it, which really appeals to me. And then, yeah, the dungeon crawling is really fun. I think it feels really good, really good to play.

It's difficult at points. most part I've not been struggling too much. I think I've died maybe like twice and out out of the maybe seven-ish runs that I've done. But now with the build I have, I think I'm locked out because at some point the game is just like, all right, stop, you play too much. This is a demo.

Yeah, the codes we got do have a lock on them, but the saves will transfer over, which is nice. Yeah, but I've been enjoying it a lot. Yeah, I just wanted to hop in before Greg goes, but I was very, I was just really happy that this game sort of lived up to what the vibe that it gave off visually. Because that can happen a lot.

We'll see a trailer for a game and it looks like, oh, wow, there's any title that's going to hit in a big way and then sometimes just doesn't deliver. And this game delivered tenfold, which has me so excited that not only did it present well in this presentation and it had this neat art style that we said, oh, that's a cute little concept. I wonder, you know, if this is more style or substance and it seems to be a perfect combination of both. Yeah.

You know, again, I'm right there with you, Andy. That's a great way to put it for my first blush of like 30 or 40 minutes with it. Probably 30. It was like, yeah, I started playing. I'm like, oh, is this going to be another one where, again, a Greg game, right? Where I like the style and I like the art, but the gameplay doesn't get me. But like once I got through you and, you know, I fought the first thing and I had the dodge roll, I fought all the guys.

And then I got back and had the cultist, I was like, oh, shit. When it was like, oh, it's going to be like Peace Walker. It's going to be like fulting these guys. oh shit and you get there and then it's like animal crossing of build out your town and like oh well you can only put the fire pit on these you know tiled areas as you figure it out I'm like oh if I can see me super getting into this and building this place out and then you know even look ahead on what you know I haven't played but I've seen other people doing of like you know navigating the different ways right where you clear a room and the door opens and then it's like well do you want to go this way or

that way and like you have to look on what resources you need or what might be the thing you get from that next area you go there and you do that and then there's the thing where it's like flipping cards which can give you you know more health or give you something else and there's the different weapons and all the stuff. Like there's so many layers to it that it reminds me, not in terms of this style at all, but in terms of some of the mechanics I'm seeing of Bastion. And I love Bastion so much from Super Giant.

And I know that's something obviously has been carried over of many of their games, and a billion other games too. But having this little world, building your little town, having ownership over that, naming everybody after people, I think is really going to get me into it. 1,000%.

Yeah. What do you all, like, obviously this game comes out in August 11th. August 11th, where did you all see this kind of ending up on your top 10, top five? It's so early to say, because I think part of what's going to take this game further for me is the longevity of it. It feels like a game that you're supposed to stick with and come back to in the way that you come back to an anala crossing and put in maybe 20 hours, 30 hours, 40 hours, and beyond if you feel super hooked into it in that way. I will say my one thing that currently is holding it back for me in my preview is the, you know, Greg was talking about some of the systems in there as far as the road light stuff

and choosing which way you want to go and the upgrade systems and all that stuff. A lot of it feels very Hades in a great way, but also in a way where I compare it to Hades in my head, and Hades felt way more deep with those systems in a way where Colt of the Lamb, after the three hours, I could see places where I'm like, oh man, I wish, I wish like there was more here in terms the rooms I'm exploring and more stuff to discover in the rooms or more secrets or more. Like I wish there was more, I guess, overall in the in the in the in the road light segments of it. It feels like that stuff is meant to be bite-sized. Like the longest I think is really taking me to get through any of the road light runs through the forest has been like maybe 10 minutes or so, which is great for if you're the sim kind of person and you're just like, cool, let me do a quick run to then bring stuff back.

I think it's great for that. But if you're a roguid person like me, I feel like I'm missing out a lot of that. That's what's going to be interesting, is because I am the sim person of it, right? And what it reminds me, not a lot of what's similar to, is Moonlighter, which, of course, if you remember the kind of funny Reddit had totally pegged as, hey, this is a Greg-ass game, and he missed it. And so when I, and this is years ago now, when I got into Moonlighter on my Switch, I was like, holy shit, this is amazing of going into the dungeons,

battling, killing things, then bringing out the things I, the monsters and things I killed there, and putting them into my shop and selling it. So I was moonlighting as an adventurer. I was really running a shop and I fucking adored that but the gameplay of going into the dungeons did get punishing and it was there you know it would be for a while of like it really was you know fucking stomping you and so you had that moment of you've gotten the right builder you've gotten the right buff and you go in there and you get to really tear shit up and get what you want and come out and sell it that way so it's going to be fascinating because that's such an interesting balance if it goes

the other way with this where it's more leaning towards build your town for your build your cult land for your followers and yada yada and if that is awesome and then if the gameplay is good but it isn't super punishing if the gameplay is fun like where does that go where it might burn you out but it'll be super addictive for me to keep going in there and build out my time because that's what i want and that's thing is i'm i i i as we're talking about it i could see how this would appeal to that certain audience that you're talking about gregg where for me for a game like this i want to i want to beat this game in like a week or two right i want to get in there do the runs build my col and be like oh man cool i did the damn thing i fucking i fucking i fucking i fucking i fucking i fucking

up this rogue lay and I killed it. Whereas I could see the going for a hit a day approach working way better if you're playing it for let's say two months or whatever but you're coming in every single day to do one or two runs which might run you like 15 to 20 minutes come back to your colt you know do all the sim stuff right build some or mine some rocks build some trees I don't know how this shit works preach a sermon and then like be like cool I'm done for the day I did all I did all my responsibilities you put it down wake up the next day and do it all over again. I think for that type of player,

which I assume might be more your style of maybe wanting to play this game, that might be a hit. Whereas for me wanting to maybe go through it in a week or two, I can see myself kind of getting bored with it playing it that way. Well, August 11th, not that far off.

Of course, it's coming to literally everything Colt of Land published by DeVolver, made by massive monster. And that isn't the only preview you have for you today. I'm sorry, Andy, you want to talk about the cycle frontier? Yeah, just really quickly, because the Cycle Frontier has been out since June 8th, I believe that's kind of when it hit its,

who knows with beta and 1.0 releases and all this sort of stuff. But Cycle Frontier is a PC game developed and published by Yeager, and the Cycle Frontier is, in my opinion, unapproachable escape from Tarkov. Okay. It looks like Fortnite has that really nice sort of cartoony, Not too cartoony style with a really neat world, very alien, very, you're basically like an alien-like jungle. But the audio is fantastic.

You have this sort of home base when you're back home. It's a first-person shooter. But the way it works is when you spawn into the game, you are essentially in a gigantic kind of home-based area where there are a lot of many objectives you can go get from. the three different factions in the world. Like one of them is like a weapons dealer, another one is a whatever dealer. And they all kind of give you little mini missions that you can then go out forth and try to find those three flowers or try to kill five of those animals or whatever. But while you do that, there are other players trying to likely do the same thing.

Or maybe they're further along than you. Or maybe they're just players that are assholes that want to pick on lower level players. Um, but essentially when you go out there, it's you going out there by yourself or you going out there with friends. It's the PVE, PVP type game. Sometimes you don't talk to people when I played with Mike the other day on the kind of funny stream. Uh, there were three different moments while we ran into other players where you use proximity chat and one guy was like, please don't kill me, man. I'm just trying to get these things. I, I don't want to get killed. I don't have any weapons. Please don't kill me. And Michael's like, Andy, uh, ask him if he's got those flowers. And I was like, hey man, you got these flowers? And he's like, yeah, bro, yeah, take them all. Take them all. Please, I don't want to die. I don't want to die right now. And we're like, all right, man.

And I took the flowers. I was like, you're a hero, bro. Thanks, man. And we just pieced out. And we're like, oh, I really hope he doesn't come back to kill us with a friend later or something like that. But it has all those really thrilling, like, interactions that I hadn't had in a piece of game in a long time. When you even think about PubG and having their sort of tech or their proximity chat, there's a couple of bad guys, other enemy players.

that will shoot at you and they don't say anything and you just kind of fire back and hopefully you will win. But those really kind of thrilling moments where you're really close to your Evac spot. You want to get to the Evac spot without dying and you want to leave with the things you sought out to get, the five flowers or the animal bones or the pieces of metal or whatever. It's kind of like extraction and division for when you're in the dark zone. Exactly. Yeah, it's like the dark zone. But sometimes on the track back, you'll see a drop pod come in. You're like, oh, fuck, that's another player.

I'm just going to stay here and stay quiet. And hopefully they walk by me and don't see me. Or we'll be running around sometimes you'll just hear like, hey, man, hey, I don't want any trouble. Please don't, please don't kill me. And we're like, who the fuck's talking it is? And we look and we find them out in the distance. And he's like, hey, man, I'm just trying to do this thing, please.

I've already been killed like four times today, man. I just want to get these pieces of metal. And we're like, awesome. All right, man, good shit. and they just go on their way and it is so thrilling um because you know you're a lower level you don't know what the other players are sometimes you get killed by aliens uh there's like these alien monsters kind of inhabiting this jungle um but it just gives you that sort of thrill when you're walking about and you have really low level weapons um and you hear gunshots you're like oh

fuck somebody's near us the audio is fantastic in this game and the cool thing is if you make it out alive, you can buy weapons. You can buy upgrades for the weapons, attachments. It has a sort of same looting system where it's the green weapon and the blue weapon, and this one's purple. It's better, you know, rarity or whatever. And it's free to play.

I could see where the micro-transactions can get a little paid to winnish if you want to quickly upgrade your stuff and buy, instead of venturing out to get those five sheets of aluminum, whatever the hell that you need to get for that one faction. I think the battle pass sometimes just gives you some of those items. So I'm not exactly sure how bad the macchurchase action situation gets, but it's really

fun. It's got a great style to it. And it gets even deeper when you're kind of back at your home base and you could walk into your residence area. And it kind of reminds you of like Outriders in a way where Outriders have. has a lot of menus for better or for worse and you open up a menu you're like oh i can claim something here i didn't know i had a i don't know i had loot to claim in this fucking screen let me just hit the claim button what do i get for it um i think there's like a lot going on systems-wise that are

that's really exciting and the fact that it's free to play is really dope and like it's a game that i immediately bought the battle pass for oh yeah it's like i'm going to download on this i'm looking at it right now i could tell i want to play it and i can tell i want to get into it and sometimes you just doing missions and you're just fighting alien life and that's fine but on the off chance it like all right we're running to the extraction spot and then you see another extraction ship calling and i'm looking at mike and i'm like mike did you call on the ship yet because this isn't our ship dude there's somebody else here like it is just so exciting and uh yeah i haven't really felt this way about a pc game since like daisy honestly back in the day it's it's really exciting and uh i want to definitely play some more of it

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I'm laughing at Louise quoting Stel Mike the other day because there was that moment where this This guy was like, hey man, you know, I'm just, I'm just, please don't kill me. We're just trying to get these things. And we're like, all right, man, all right. Do you got any of these things? And the guy was like, no, man, sorry. And we were like, all right, cool. And we walked away.

And Mike was like, damn, we're crazy, bro. We're wild. All we do was communicate. But like, sometimes when you kind of impose your will, because again, this one dude that was terrified of dying, Mike started shooting him. We hunted his ass down. And we found him hiding in a quarter. And that's when he was like, please don't kill me.

me, man, please. I'm just trying to get out with these things. And it's like, I didn't want to be evil. And Chat was rooting on Mike to kill the guy. I was like, no, don't kill it, Mike. Don't kill him. But it was just funny that all we did was have a simple interaction with the dude with Mike was like, damn, we're wild, bro.

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