Kinda Funny Gamescast: Video Game Podcast - Bets and Predictions of Metacritic Scores in 2020 - Kinda Funny Gamescast Ep. 2

Episode Date: January 16, 2020

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What's up guys, welcome to the first ever. Hold on, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. This is why you watch live. You're a patriotic exclusive stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe a dick falls out, maybe we fuck up the intro. 10,000 episodes in, getting used to the rigmarole.

Oh, my God. Now switch it up on myself. All right. Refresh. Usa. Usa. What's up, guys, welcome to the second ever episode two of the kind of funny games cast. I'm Tim Geddies.

Join by, as always, one of the coolest dudes in video games. Greg Miller. Hi. How you doing? I'm good. I'm very excited. Me too. Of course, if you are...

Why are you excited? It's going to be a great episode. Oh, sure. Fuck that, but I'm more talking about me. If you're watching this show live, I am chilly. So I'm wearing the Ghostbusters coat over my kind of funny hoodie as I've been doing recently as layers. As this cold wave has made its way across San Francisco for a few weeks now.

Very stoked because I've decided I like this jacket on me enough that I ordered another Miller patch that I'm going to have professional. sewn on to this. Spirit Halloween jacket and then I'll be fucking cool as for a spirit Halloween outfit like that looks pretty legit. It's good. Look at the patch. The cheesy costume look. Yeah exactly.

It's more on the clothing side. It's actually a canvas. It's not just like hoodie material. If you are a listener right, close your eyes while you drive the car and I'll explain what's happening. I'm basically like you know how you either have your friend's dad who was really good and outdoorsy

and it was like a wintry environment. I'm wearing one of those khaki jackets. Carhart, exactly. That is excellent. But it is a Spirit Halloween version of it. Wait, open your eyes. Stop. You're about to get a car accident.

I saved you. Close them again. Hit the gas as hard as you can. But yeah, it's a Shibov Spirit Halloween. Ghostbush and a well. But it's a great, it actually is a really good jacket. It is. The only downside is fake pockets.

Oh, that's a real downside. I couldn't do that. No, that's pocket. But can the whole hand fit in there? Look at my phone, right? They're not big. They're not fake pockets. They're not big.

His iPhones get cold. I literally, look it out. Greg has big hands. Look at that. I have this thing up here where I can put things to. Yeah, Kevin. Quick question. Sure.

I don't mind. This is a spirit Halloween cast. What if you cut it open, flip the pocket out, and add an extension fleece? Kevin, you're a madman. You lost me? And then you got me back. I don't know what we're doing, but I'm in. I don't know what exactly means.

So Greg Miller's hands might not be able to fit in his pockets, but we all know who's. Who will? Fran Mirabella the third. Mr. Small hands, Fran himself. My hands are not that small. You see what you've done to me, Tim? I love it.

I love it. It's a new meme. Small hands. Put your hand up to me. By the way, someone's going to photo. Come here. Put your hand up again, though.

Come here. Yeah, I want to put it in. Turn your hand, Fran. Oh, yeah. Not that. This guy. It's like I'm Andre the giant. Yeah.

You. Fred. Give him. Give him one of these. Can I get the one? Somebody out there, please Photoshop his hands to be very small. They will.

They will. Thank you. Thank you very much. But Fran, where can people find you normally? Thanks, Tim. Yeah, you know, I'm always on Twitch streaming out there at FM3 underscore. But also, I want to say thanks again, everyone who has supported me in the Epic Game Store with creator, Fran Mirabella, this imposter FM3, that doesn't work.

There's a code that works. I'm actually trying to track it down now because there's money going to FM3 that, you know, I'm not saying. But anyway, Fran Mirabella in the store, you guys have been saying. So supportive. Thank you. And the new face of video games. Oh, man. The pressure never ceases to just hit me.

We didn't hire you to not put pressure on you. I hired you and I was like, we're putting him into the fire. Oh, man. How's it going? How you doing? He'll have to wave it off himself. You know what I mean? I'm waving it.

Yeah. I'm trying. How are you? Good. This is your second games cast, man. Well, third if you don't. The second ever. Third if you count my up-and-comers week.

If you don't count my up-and-comers week, second. Don't count it as an employee. As an employee, my second one. There you go. There you go. This is the Kind of Funny Games cast each and every week right here on YouTube. com slash Kind of Funny Games. We get together, talk about video games, all the things that we love about them.

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which you can do by being a Patreon supporter, or if we get something wrong, you can just go to Kindof Funny.com slash Gamescast, you're wrong to correct us, and we will get to it the following week. Just like Marcus Hutchins did. Regarding Killer Queen Black, Tim knocked it for encountering the same opponents over and over, but I watched the stream

and you guys were messing up by selecting randomized teams instead of backing out and selecting quick match again. Randomizing teams will keep the same eight players and mix up the teams if no one's squatted up. I play all the time and rarely ever face the same team back to back. It's not Killer Queen's fault. It's your fault, Tim. Also, they've added crossplay

with PC since it launched. I wasn't necessarily just referring to the stream. I was referring to every time I've tried to play with my friends, which has been like four or five times now. But thank you for educating me. I have been doing this wrong the entire time and maybe that would have changed my views on Killer Queen Black and making it into. Probably

would have made my top five still, but... Great game. Not totally intuitive, though, that setup. Exactly. Exactly. Hopefully. That's your fault. But anyway, shout out to you. So that's why we never became the black team, like we wanted to you. Because we just kept fighting the same people. Damn it.

That doesn't make sense, though. So how do you... Oh, whatever. Argued for a different games cast, I assume. On this week, we're talking all about... How does it know I'm winning? How does it know that I'm winning? You know what I'm going to keep backing out.

How's it know I'm winning? I got to be on a hot streak. I don't know. The snail trail. I just don't know. The snail trail. What? You ever played Killer Queen Black?

Or Kill a Queen? I think I played it like once in an arcade. I don't, don't, remember anything about a snail trail? Oh wait, no, the snails that are being slowly crawling. Okay, no, yeah, okay, now this makes sense. Yeah, yeah. Snail trail, to be clear, is a Greg Millerism. Okay, well, it's an official feature of the game.

I'm pretty sure I coined it, and no one's thought of it before. There you go. There's two types of snail trails. The snail trail in real life, when a snail leaves the trail, and then the snail trail, when I only win in Killer Queen Blank by getting on it, by getting on it and doing the snail trail across the screen. I think there's a third time. Yeah, there's a third one. But let's not get it.

We're not going to talk about. I don't know what you guys are talking about. But it sounds nasty. It's just not appropriate. Yeah. God, Kevin Zine's got really big there. Wow. Okay, we'll keep that for the post show.

Because today... Oh, yeah, that's when we're going to go to Urban Dictionary and look up snail trail. The topic of the show is bets and predictions of Metacritic scores in 2020. I've been wanting to do this for a very long time. And I make note to myself. I keep notes very simply. You got your money ready here. for the bet.

Who's in? I don't know how many more pizza bets we can do. Yeah, well, we can't track him anymore. There's too many pizza bets. Oh, a dollar, wow. Oh, big money.

He's got 20s in his wall. Guys, there's no reason to go to the epic game store and use frame Mirabella as a coat. Crisp one right here. Okay. Do you guys accept credit? I don't know. I can spot you a dollar.

I got dollars. I got dollars. You know, I got dollars. Come in house money. There's my dollar. There's my dollar. Yeah. Okay.

Is this legal? No, I really need. Yeah, of course it is. This is international water. International waters, man. That's exactly how things work. Some kid in the kind of funny podcast thing, because I make a phone call on the kind of funny podcast.

Like, isn't that illegal? And I'm like, be cool, chat. Just be cool, everybody. Greg, do you see how long my cash has been in there? It's all beat up that I don't spend easy? Yeah, well, cash is stupid. Yeah, I don't need. Cash is very stupid.

It's emergency. I only carry ones. Yeah. Strip clothes. My type of guy. My type of guy. No, so here's the thing. I've been wanting to do this topic for a long time,

and I keep sending my. myself the same email. I keep my notes via email. I email myself with like a subject keyword for this show would be gamescast. I'll be like gamescast predict metacritic scores. And when I've searched for games cast I swear to God I have this like seven different times and we just never never have done it. Now it's the beginning of the year. We got more games than ever coming out. We're doing games cast differently wherever shows its own topic. It feels perfect. We got a great crew of people to predict and friend don't worry. I got some rules for you. Okay. Because I knew we were I never do that.

We're going to have to define the rules of what's going on here. Are you noting everybody's predictions and stuff? I have a spreadsheet. I want to get up here and win the dollar pool. I have a spreadsheet right now with a list of 30, of 29 games. Oh, that's much more reasonable. Okay.

Fuck, sorry. You know what I like about this? What's up? It means that by the end of the year I'll be back on the show. For sure. Because you're going to wait the whole year and then have me back. They'll have you back, man. Security, right there.

There you go. I want to know if in a year did Fran track down FM3. Yeah, a year from now. I'll just change my name. I'll be taking a bet on that. If you gets it back or not. I like how Fran's like, I'm going to track him now and get my money. I'm like, well, the guy's got a creator code.

It might be his money, too. Dude, I looked everywhere. Anyway, not worth getting... From now on, I'm only supporting FM3. No, I Google search, I Twitter search. This person doesn't exist. I'm that person. I want that money.

I have context. This is wild. I love it, man. Sounds like a pimp. All right, so I have a spreadsheet right now that has 29 game names. What? That's awesome. Fake pockets here, but this one's big enough from my wallet. Now my ass is even. It's great. There you go. Look at me, everybody. I got a new ass.

So we got game names. We have the Metacritic score that will eventually add once it comes in. We'll have me, Greg, Blessing, Fran. We're just going one by one. I'll put the numbers that we come into. What's up? So are we going Metacritica the day of, Metacritic a month and a half? So here are some rules. That's a great question. Here are some rules. Here are some rules that I came up with, and we can discuss if we need to add any more. Consul score counts. We're not counting a PC score, but if a game's on Xbox and PlayStation, the higher scoring console gets the points. So the example is if the Xbox Series X, Jedi Fall in Order.

Yeah, the next version of it. John Fall in Under Tuesday? It gets the highest score. That's the score we use. Let's say the PlayStation 4 version was the top selling though. It doesn't matter. Just the highest score. The highest scoring console version.

What if it's a situation, you probably don't have any of these on here, I'm but it's an inside situation where inside came out in like August for Xbox and then September for PlayStation but we didn't know it's coming out for PlayStation. Delayed release, how are we gonna do it? Doesn't matter. It would be the same. It would change later. He still has an answer to what the turn turn around time with the Metacritics are. Turnaround time is the score from the end of the year when we do the games cast results topic of this topic. So we will do a topic at the end of the year and at that time whatever the score is, okay, will be the score that we go with. So the scores kind of

fluctuate a little bit here and there. Theoretically we're saying, and I'm not tying us to this, don't throw in our face, but like the games cast before game of the year. Would that make sense? Before we go to 2021, like the last 2020 games cast. Yep, it'd be in the month of December somewhere and we don't know all the December dates yet.

So what I'm saying here is this might put us in a situation where there's a couple, actually I don't think there's any game on this list that's going to be that late in December. Things can get pushed. Well, we don't know a lot of what's going on yet. But I'm saying if we don't know, we're not predicting it.

Yeah, yeah. So that protects us a little bit. But if any of these games get delayed into December, or I have, for example, Assassin's Creed on here. Ragnarok might be. Ragnarok question mark is what I put there. That might come out in December. I doubt it.

But if it did, that would be put in an interesting situation. But the rules are the rules. Right. It doesn't matter. Even if the game comes out and the next game's cast is this. Whatever the Metacritic score is at that point. Tim, would you, if this was popular enough, everybody shared it with their friends and totally,

and then watch it on YouTube.com, so that's kind of funny games. Would you be open to, like, what if there's, like, a check-in later in the, where you up, you know, you don't change your previous scores necessarily, but maybe you add some to the list. Maybe is a small segment? Yeah. Yeah, okay. You know what I'm saying?

I like that. I like that. I like that. Huge release in, we know it's coming in September after E3. You have some summer show, and you say, you don't, we're going to add five games to the list. I love it. A segment.

That's a good call, especially because, because right now, we don't know Nintendo. There's very few Nintendo games going on right here. We know they're going to be released and stuff this year. So, yeah, we'll add some of those stuff, especially PlayStation launch titles, we'll get some more in there. But is there any other rules before we start that we feel are necessary?

Because I feel like that kind of covers everything. I can veto a blessing. 100 point scale? What? It's metacritic. Yeah. Yeah, so the 100 point scale. And these are not prices right rules.

It is. Thank you. No, no prices right rules. It is. Who's closest? Yeah. So if something came out at an 87 and I predict 85. Fran predicts

89. We both get the same amount of points there. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Too away. Yeah. Cool. I like that. Price's right rules are so dumb. They make you think. All right? This is like going bowling you. You want the bumpers on. You want the bumpers on. I do like the idea of everybody else predict something that I think is too high. Then me going $1? Yes.

Yeah. Like that's strategy. That's fun. Did you know that if there's three doors at a game show and there's a prize behind one of those doors? And go watch that and Explores. It's a lot. whole fucking thing. It's going to blow your goddamn mind. It doesn't make sense. It doesn't make any sense. Do you know what I'm talking about?

Not a fucking... There's nothing behind any of the door show. I'm going to tell you this so fast you are not allowed to ask any goddamn questions. I'm just presenting it to you. I'm not saying I believe in it. I'm just saying that these are the facts that we're giving you. It's a game show. There's three different doors. There's a prize behind

one of those doors. All right? You choose your first pick. You don't know what's behind it. The host then goes, okay, cool, let's see what's behind. The other door, another one of the two that are empty, right? And he goes, oh, hey, there was nothing there. You get your opportunity to switch your vote,

or to keep your same vote that you have. What do you do? I'll stick. You said you weren't as quick. Stick. Sure. Bless what you do? Yeah, I'm sticking.

Cool. Great. Why? Is it a 50, 50 shot? You scared me. Between those two? I mean, now it is, but I think... It's not.

There's a two-thirds chance. It's the other one. There's a one-third chance. It's the one that you originally chose. Like I said, you're not allowed to ask questions. We're going to move the fuck on. Sorry, I was thinking that there were two other doors, and those are the two-thirds.

But, okay, we'll discuss after maybe post-show. Yeah, or we're just watching an explorers. We go into it in-depth, and it blew my fucking mind, and I don't quite understand it. This is why you lose all your money on dealer-no-deal, me. I picked the case. I stick with the case. It's a third odds. One third odds. Compared to two third odds, man. I'm so confused. They call it the Monty Python equation.

Well, you know, oh, this makes sense. I saw somebody on Reddit talking about Monty Python. This is why. This is why. All right, are you guys ready to get into this? Now, another thing that I'm going to say that we're allowed to do during this. So a couple of other things, actually. We're all allowed to choose the same point. So it doesn't need, it's not like Colin dibs on anything. It's like everyone gets their own bets for all these, right? then on top of that we are allowed to reference old Metacritic scores so if we want some kind of like context Kevin will bring up Metacritic we'll look up games we can like have the discussion about like

you know what is the high end of Metacritic because you guys might be surprised at what the top games on Metacritic are I already did some homework on these games but not all games yeah I'm coming in as a blank slate because I don't like to cheat unlike Fran also Price's right rules are better my next question then oh I guess we can pick the same one, so it doesn't matter. He's on it right now. I'm here. I'm ready to go. I don't like the cheat. Staring it at Medicare. I knew from the beginning I was going to be able to put things in here and see

what's up, you know? I digress. What's your... I forgot that you're playing with the bumpers now. It doesn't matter. You're about to say some of what price is right. Well, again, yeah, you're playing by baby rules. I'm coming down from a grown adult game, you know what I mean? Because I was going to say my original question was, are we going to go like this and go back and forth, but then, of course, if we can

all pick the same thing, what's it's the inclination? We're doing the real version of this on PSLW, so... We're doing a fantasy football league with games. It's anything better. Don't worry about it. It's a different game, dude. That's like playing baseball and soccer field.

Where there can be a winner and loser, not like you with your participation badges out here. Participation badges. You're a trophy, good job. Here's the thing. At the end of the day, you only get a point if you get it right. Here's what I'm going to ask the lobby to do, all right? When Tim says his score and he starts it,

we all just say Tim's score to show him. He broke the system and this is a broken game. Thank you. I'm with Greg on this one. I try so hard to just make the rules clear and concise. I am staying silent on this matter. Here we are 17 minutes into the episode. Anytime we do these, we always mess it up because it gets too complicated.

And I'm trying to keep it as simple as possible. He's just trying to get you to turn on Price's Right Rules. Just get into it. He's trying to get you to turn. We're getting into it. He's going to go. He's going to look in this jacket. You look real. Tim, I'm wearing this out tonight. Get ready.

I appreciate that. I'm wearing this out tonight. All right. Number one, Dragon Ball Z, Kakarot. Now, this is complicated. Because some people here might already have review codes for this game. So I don't think... Yeah, but as long as none of us do, it doesn't matter.

But... Now, we can't say if we did, potentially. I mean, I think it's fine for me to say that I have a code for Kakarot. So I don't think I can really... Well, that would be the easy thing, though. You get to get, like, that doesn't change anything. I could steal your choice. Hold on time, time, time, time on.

He knows more about the game is what he's saying. Right, but he's probably embarking from talking about the game. Yeah, I'm also embargoed from, like, doing any sort of score stuff is my thing. Yes, if you are. See what I'm saying? He raises a good point. He's got to sit this out. He can give it silently.

Oh, that's a great point. He can write it down as a silent ballot, give it to you, you put it on your thing. We don't mention on this show. Yeah, find out later. And I'm like... You're streaming it this week, right? Yeah, tomorrow. It's a good point.

Is the review score stuff up then tomorrow? Is that just streaming? Yep, review scores up tomorrow. Tomorrow you can reveal what you passed to Tim. Oh, yeah. That works. It'll be cool, dude. It's funny because, like, I don't...

I can't imagine they care what you're guessing medic cricket will be because it's not your review, but whatever. I'm sitting. You're telling me, Bandai Namco, Denny himself, not at HQ right now, subscribe to our Patreon, watching this stream like a hawk, waiting for a blessing to fuck it up. He's got a big red button in the press. Also, for context, because I don't want people to think that I'm, I have an advantage. I'm only like 30 minutes into Dragonville, Dacharot. See, I think I might have played more than him already because I played a judge's week. There you know.

I'm not going to worry about it, you know what I mean? Because I'll get him the jacket. it. Let's get some scores. I'm expecting this game is going to be at the least good, at the best great.

So, let's see, what do I start? I'm in the 80s somewhere. Nah, nah, fam. Let him go. Let him hang himself.

Don't worry about it. You know what I mean? Give them all the rope in the world. No, but then it wouldn't work because he would hit the floor. It's too much road. I'm going to start the conversation

at 81. What do you suggest? You're not going to change it. Once you decide that's it, right? That's his. He's locked into, but he's saying since he starts, that was his first swing. You know what I was there?

Also, we're allowed to, until we move on in the next game, you're allowed to change your time. No, no, no. Once you say, then it's got to be who wants to be a millionaire rules where we say final answer,

final answer, fine. No, actually, I don't like. I love the idea. It's changing my mind. You know what? Somebody give me a baby Bjorn to put Tim in, all right? Because we got a winy little baby.

I'm trying to play a man's game over here. I don't like the idea of being like, oh yeah, I think 80. Greg thinks 7 and you realize like, oh, man, you know what? It's okay to stay. I'm going to go 60. There's so many games on this list. Yes, that's why you should be definitive. This is back to the door answer.

It wasn't door number three. You don't want to start this, Greg. You pick door two. Do you want to change it? I go, no, because I have the power of Jesus in me, and I know behind that door is my goat. Now open up and show me the goat. The goat's not a bad thing, the zonks.

The what? You guys, it's a whole fucking thing. I think it's fine that you can change the score, but whatever. It's Tim's rules, man. He can do what he wants. I hate the show. I mean, I know you're CEO. It's my world.

You just live in it. McWhirold. It could happen. I'm going to, I'm just putting out. 74. That's it. Sticking with it. Frank?

You're not going to change it. That's the thing. I mean, I could. But 704. Here's where my head goes, ladies and gentlemen. I played this as Judge's Week. Felt like it was, I don't know, Dragon Ball.

Okay, cool. The fighting was fun. Flying was fun. Fighting in people in, like, but it was a very empty-ish world where I was running around and there's people there are flying around

there's people around I'm like okay cool so I don't think I'm with you where it's good great somewhere in that range my prediction would be that and what'll fuck up

the scores is that of course to review this you're going to be a dragon ball fan so I think you're coming into that knowing the dragon ball lower already then having to wrestle with what is it is at the gameplay mechanics

I think for me reviewing this game would be very different and honestly not the review you'd want right because I'd just be talking about mechanics and be like, I don't understand this Goku guy, they want him to fight Superman all time. Clearly, Superman would beat him to death, but no big deal. Oh, you, so many people are.

So from what I played, I'm going to say, but what I played paired with the fact that I think Dragon Wall fans will be reviewing this, 70 4. 6. I was right there between 76, 77. I texted him my number.

Yeah. And the only thing I'll say is that I think we're coming off of a great Dragon Ball Z game with Dragon Ball Fighters and there are a lot of Dragon Ball Zee games out there and so Xeniverse, Xenovers 2

Xenovers 2 Xenovirs 2 Zenovirc-o-Zo-Zo-I-No and so I think even if you're reviewing it as a Dragon Ball Zee fan you're coming into it with a certain baggage But educate me those games weren't like this right

This is an open world RPG Dragon Ball fighters is a fighting game Dragon Ball Zeniverse and Zenoverse 2 are similar-ish because like Dragon Balls both those are MMO-ish but they are RPGs and so like

gameplay is kind of similar. Stories different because Xenovir's and X-Ziverse 2 aren't necessarily the stories of Z. They're their own stories that are adding on to what's going on in Drag Maw Z. The thing about Kakarot is that you are playing as Goku and you are doing like the actual story.

Which is going to appeal to a lot of people in a different way but yeah, that's all I can really say about it. Okay. Cool. Next up. Journey to the Savage Planet. What? How many games are we doing this?

29. I actually don't know that. Oh, 29, you said? Journey to the Savage Planet Huh Yes Journey to the Savage Another game I play the judges week

A smaller title Completely underwhelmed But I know other people Did enjoy it Huh That's a good one Again I'm not like Fran I didn't try to cheat

I come in blind It's on all the different You played the game Greg That's not blind Or we'll be coming down I'm just trying to see what the game looks like Yeah Kevin can you bring this up That is not blind

You understand all the game works at it With your eyes But yet, for those that don't know, this might be a good one, what would you describe the game as? We're watching a little trailer of it, but, like, what do you do? It's an upbeat co-op adventure game set in a bright and colorful alien world filled with weird and wonderful creatures. You've got to compare it to some stuff.

That's a CG trailer blessing. Come on. I mean, yeah. That's colorful. I want you show me the gameplay, baby. Yeah, if you want Kevin, IGNA has 43 minutes of footage. That might be a better one to toss up. Jump to the number.

are inspired. So it's great. It looks, the trailer's great. Hey, Kevin, it's a little loud, by the way. We're on that. Oh. It looks like it has a lot of personality. Here we go. See, in double wielding, is that cheese whiz in a gun? What is that? Oh, okay, so you're like walking around, adventuring on a planet

scanning some things. Is this like a little pistol? It's funny it has a no man sky look. I don't think it's procedurally generated. It's from Typhoon Studios, publisher 505 games. What they previously do? for Xbox 1 and Microsoft Windows. They previously... This actually looks totally decent.

It has a little friend. Yeah, it's got me interested. Yeah, I think I know what I'm going. Anytime you scan in a game... This is their first project. And look around like this. I'm like, oh, it's like Metroid Prime. I love it.

It's their first project. Okay. Hmm. It looks good. If you guys have not seen it, check it out. I'm liking the side effect of the show, Tim, of like, hey. Yeah.

Medjugation there for you. Keep your eye. Journey to the Savage Planet is going to get a 68. Whoa. Okay, it's just like it's okay. It's what Tim thinks on the IGN scale. Honestly, I don't know enough about it.

So with that in mind, having just seen a little bit of footage, which is a lot of walking around and looking at things, I'm going to go on the high end of the 70s at 77. 7.1. Why do you got to be a jerk like that? What, how did I do?

That's not the 7.1, you mean 71. Oh, sure, sorry. I still think IGM, you know, because I'm right about IGN. No, put it down for a 7.1. He's very precise with how bad this is going to be. 71, sorry. I was going to say 68. Instead, I'm going to say 69.

Oh, yeah, dude. My man. Yeah, like I said, played it at a judge. I just week and just was like, no. Like, I thought, like, it's, it does have a whole bunch of jokes in a cutie world and all that stuff, but it's just like, no, I don't remember anything about it where I was like, yeah. It's funny. I wandered around and collected shit like you did in that fucking, like the two seconds.

Yeah, I think I did. I don't remember. I can go dig out my notebook if you want. Early games. Probably just like, eh. To be fair, and it's a year later, early games can be like that, right? 100%. I'm not sure it was about.

Look how many times last year I got burned by a preview on this game. It's great. This game did not come out together. It's hooks in you. Darksiders Genesis. Which is already out, right? This is just coming to console. No. Is it out?

Yep. It's on PC and it's on Stadia. You might have heard of that, everybody. So, yeah, let's just look up. Can I bring up Dark Siders Genesis on Metacritic currently? Greg's looking at, we think the... 78 is what it's got. So, wait, what's it coming out for? Console now.

Conium Bond. Okay. PS4, Xbox One Switch. But it's coming to PS4. You said you're taking the best score. Here's my thing. I almost feel like we should take this. one off. I fucked up. I didn't realize

it was already out on it. Yeah, I'm with that too. I think that. But I was going to just say it's going to get the same score because that will be the best version of it, which is on PC. Well, I'll, no, my guess what... The console, best console version is what we said, remember? Because I would have just, like, taken off like five from that and that would be my score. I forgot. My thing about it would be, too, like, what's interesting

about leaving it on is that, and I'm being... I think it's going to get more buzz coming to console than it did on PC. And Stadia. Yeah. So I think it might have more reviews, which might actually lead to a different score than what has on PC. It's already out though, so Oh, it's already out

I thought even it's already off the list So we can't shake back You're saying Dark Sider Genesis Are we keeping it or not? I say we boot it I'm down with either I'm just laughing I'm just laughing at none of us played it though

That being what we originally said is that it's already out Greg given a whole explanation The frame being like Yeah well it's already out Yeah that's all well and good But fuck it it's done All right I would have said 82 I think it's going to be better

I do it's going to be better I do higher Here we go, guys. Dreams. What is dreams get a game? Zimidi, zimidi, zimidi. That's absolutely. The first PlayStation exclusive of the year.

He's played a lot, actually. Yeah, I really love dreams. I'm, can anybody go first? Does it matter? Yeah, no. Okay. Oh. Because here's the, while you debate,

I'm going to present what I think the case is, right? Is that the creation tools we already know are fantastic. The creations we already know are fantastic. how good is for the real release media molecules levels, let alone they're onboarding of here's all this stuff we have for you and how do they make it fun to explore, fun to create, and not overwhelming and scare you off?

See, my thing is do critics really take in media molecules levels into account as much as they take in the creation tools and what they're seeing people use the creation tools for? I feel like if I was reviewing that game, I would look at it more for what's the community putting out because at the end of the day, that's what's going to matter way more than media molecules stuff. But that's my thing, right? If it's just play the story or go into fucking

create mode, like, is how good is, I know it is good, but how good is there creation in the final, or I'm sorry, curation in the final bit? I'm, yeah, I'm surfacing the really cool shit and making you find it. I'm, hmm, I'm gonna say 86. Whoa!

Yeah. Is that higher load of you? Very high. Really? Yeah. Interesting. I mean, I think the tools I'm thinking 82, so it's not like that, but 86. Hold on. Like what else on Metacritic is 86?

Like what am I putting in? And that's what I'm saying is that Metacritic, like, even the top best games of all time aren't at 10. You get what I'm saying? Or sorry, at 100. A hundred. Yeah. I mean, yeah, like a lot of the best games at all the time are at like 95 and stuff. When you're close to 90, we're talking about.

That's the thing is I think Dreams is very impressive. And I think that'll go a long way. I think there was a review. I forgot who reviewed it. But somebody reviewed it in early access, and I think gave it a 10. And it was like a name that I recognized. And so I think that that game might come out and knock people on their back. I don't know if it's going to sell, but if we're talking about reviews,

I think it's going to review really well. Was that recent cyberpunk PlayStation era thing made in Dreams? Yeah. That was freaking cool. And I didn't play it. So I don't know how much is in there. But, man, it is amazing to see what they're doing with the tools. So it comes out when?

March? What's you looking at, Greg? Share with the class. I want to have my one last piece here. This comes out on Valentine's Day, right? It does. February 14th, the day after the dice awards. They're rewatching a host of dice words. Thank you very much.

I'm saying 8. I'm sorry, 88. I'm saying an 88. Now here's my reasoning behind it. Look at Metacritic, right? Little Big Planet for Medium Molecule, 95. Little Big Planet 2, 91.

Little Big Planet Vita, or I'm sorry, PSP, 87, but that had TARCA involved. Terraway Vita 87. Like, Mediate Molecule makes great games that are critically acclaimed. And I don't think, I don't think you can look past that

and be like, Dreams is a wackadoo idea I know and it's totally nebulous and we've all been around the block on. What is it? How is it going to go? Yada, yada, yada. I think that it is from a critical analysis

of that game when you sit down to play it. And we keep talking about it on PSI love you. Like, man, Bus is introduced a new segment where he's like going through and looking at dreams, right, and critiquing them. Like, I want to play all those things, but I want to wait for the full build to get trophies now at this point because it's like a month away, right?

And it's that thing of, I think when it finally is time to review that game and PlayStation gets behind it and is like, hey, everybody, here's your code to go review this game. You turn it on. Hopefully you're getting a whole much cool shit for media molecule. But then, yeah, if they get it right and you go into the creation suite or whatever the other option is, and it is, hey, here are 10 fucking incredible things that you don't know how they did. And we want to teach you how to make it. We want to do all stuff. Like, I think it's going to review really well. It's going to sell really well?

Different story. And that's the thing. I think the biggest roadblock for Dreams is more its selling potential rather than its qualities as a product. Yeah. And to correct myself from earlier, right, game informer reviewed Dreams on May 21st and gave it a 9.5. And so, that's where I'm coming from. I just think, I just think that Dreams is going to have a lot more. It just says Dreams review.

It doesn't even say Dreams beta review. OK reviews that will drag the average down. Whatever. I mean, that's always the beta last year. the thing where I mean how do you wait it right even with Darksiders where we just talked about it had a 70 something right like IGN of course gave it like an 86 like it's like where do you fall and like there are different people who will have an axe to grind there are sure go after dreams they hate dreaming they hate dreams they love to stop on dreams I still think it's

gonna be a I think it's a technical marvel already let alone to jump in there and now have a backbone to it that's putting it all together Fran Maribel I was thinking so hard What did you say, Greg? What was the score? I said 88. That's a really good guess. Thank you. That's where I was leaning.

Tim, you're A4? I'm 82. Greg's 88. Yeah, he's 86 over here. So I wrote down, I'll tell you, I have an Excel sheet. And my first intuition was maybe we're just going to keep it simple and do 10 point scale. So I wrote down 90. Now, that's where I wanted to be.

And it's good. I mean, Greg's pretty much right there with me. So I like to hear that. I want to believe. And so I'm going to just stick with it. Okay. I want to believe, man. I want to believe that a new...

Do not underestimate the power of PlayStation. Here's the thing. I think I started... I started from like 89. I was like, that's probably way too much. And so to hear you guys be like 88 and 90. I respect it. I really respect it.

New franchise, very pretty, and I've seen tons of creativity. Can you bring up all time? I think it's going to swell throughout the year, too. Yeah. I'm like, holy cow, did you see this? And also, we... still haven't seen what will happen on if it comes to PS5, which it would seem like a shoe in to me, like at this point.

So like, looking here, this is just for context, some all time scores going on. The green there to the left is the number itself. So. Oh, this is great to have. Yeah. Keep that tab. Ocreen of Time is the only one with a 99.

Sure. And then Tony Hawk's proscated to, baby, coming in hard at 98, right? Then, like, go down to a 90. Need for Speed. Ninja Guide and Black, 94. Can you open new pages for the... Metal Gear Guide 4-94. Maybe you can filter.

I never played it. Yeah, black was like, if I remember correctly, that's the... Do you notice... Superior versions. Oh, interesting. Are there fewer reviews as well as you go farther back? Because you'll notice there's a lot of... Yeah, there's a higher scores, there's a lot of older games in there.

Now, I'm not saying that they're not amazing. There's less people... But you'll notice, like... I think we'll all agree. Matt in 2004 was in 94. Imagine that was dope as hell. That one even got me. Yeah, I think you remember that.

The soundtrack was just too damn good. Is that the one where they added the trucks? Dude, look at that. Sekiro. 91, baby. Look at that. What's your point? There's no point.

No, no, I want to see. Here we go. Just for context. I'm trying to see what type of game gets a 90. Like, do you see Dreams among the Half Life 2 on Xbox? Get it in 90. Greg, you appreciate this one.

Do I think dreams is going to be better in Nipusk? Yeah. Now again, there's all the context of like less reviews and stuff. So what we're looking at 90s here? Like what's a modern game, right? Like so on the ride there's the dates. I'm seeing like, uh, well, we saw Sekiro at 9-4.

Yeah, Overwatch. Okay, cool. Oh, I got it. Is that a 90? Like, do you think dreams are going to hit like Overwatch? There's a lot of other stuff. When we talk about reviews and how people review things, because I could see Overwatch getting, like, even though I think Overwatch is a

pristine game. It's been like my top 10 of this generation. And I think like if I were to review Overwatch, I'd probably actually give it a 10. I could see people having an axe to grind with balancing or like certain elements of gameplay like not many, not necessarily meshing

well the way they want to see it. I think Dreams is different because it is like it's more of a technology than a game and it's a very impressive technology like for what it is. I think it's like a, I hate saying this. I think it's in some cases it's objectively impressive, like

Dreams is. And that's what I think. I think it's a showcase, it's a Marvel. Tim, I filtered by just last year. So these are the games of last year that we've got in the Impact Legends. Yeah, I know, right. So, Resident Evil 2. So yeah, Securo, Resident Evil 2.

So that's the thing is like, we're talking Game of the Year this year. Great Game of the Year. Do you see Dreams being in the Game of the Year conversation potentially next year? No. It's a little unbalanced. No. Yeah. Wait, was Tetris Effect a game of the year

candidate? Thank you, buddy. I mean, Giant Bomb Game of the Year. It was really good. I mean, it's awesome. Yeah. And I think that comes down to, like, what people look for in Game of the Year. Like, I think you can come out, and this comes down to the conversation you guys were having on Gamescast late last year of, like, I think you can come out and be the best game that came out in a year and not make Game of the Year because people weren't talking about you.

Yeah. And I think that's exactly the things they get painted into a lot with their games. Again, you're asking, like, modern games, like Little Big Planet 1 and 2, right, like R90s and above. And I think that's how it works Is that you can be one of those games You can be one of the technical standouts That's going to get the You know, game award for outstanding achievement

And technology or whatever the hell But you can not be a game of the year Yeah, yeah, for sure Yeah, I mean the truth is Greg's score was the one that I was Really thinking about once I got on the show No, no, no, I want to believe to remember the rules I believe it

And point of reference, by the way, Super Mario Maker 88 And Super Mario Maker 2, I think, 88 Is that Nintendo book though? Interesting. Yeah, so I was like, you know what? Interesting. Of Simward type games that sort of are adored as a first...

That's smart thinking. Yeah, I bet you 88 is going to be, bam. But I want to believe, 90. Sticking with it. Iron Man VR. Mm-hmm. Oh. This is an interesting one.

Yeah. Sure. Why do you think it's an interesting one? I mean, it's a VR game, firstly. So, even fewer reviews. Yeah, fewer reviews, and you're kind of reviewing on a curve because you're comparing it to other VR games. And so, and I don't know,

Kevin, do you know if there's a way to organize buy VR titles on Metacritic? By PSVR titles specifically? No, like, even if it's just VR, in general, I'm going to start off at 80. That's what I'm going to say. Is this playable in any time? I think it's going to be, I think it's going to be a good game.

I don't know if it's going to be, like, one of the best VR titles of all time. It was playable at Comic-Con for sure. It was playable at their. They didn't have a demo, though, that consumers could... Well, at Comic-Con you could do it. Yeah, consumers. And then there was the event timed around its announcement.

Oh, that's day to play. Yeah. I went and played it there or whatever. I'm looking up other games that I think are in its ilk, if that makes sense. So, give me one second. So when you ask me, like, what are the sum of? Don't go after me. The best PSVR games, right?

Astrobot rescue mission, a 90 on Metacritic. Moss, which I know I'm in the minority of a really loving 85. And I toss firewall zero hour in there as well. Again, Kevin and I love 79. Interesting. What about blood and truth? Yeah, where's blood and truth at? Let's check.

Because that might change my score depending. That's a good question. Right now, Blood and Truth for PlayStation 4. PlayStation VR. I'm just a PlayStation VR. I'm just filling time. 80. It's an 80 right now. I'm going to put, IMAV.R at 80. I think it'll be...

That's funny, that's what I wrote on my sheet originally. I think it'll be blood and truth levels of good. It might get more eyes on it because it's Iron Man. It definitely will get more eyes on it than Iron Man. Yeah, but sometimes that leads to it. That's my thing. I think it's a pro and a con, and I wonder where that evens out

or what side gets more, like, juice. Like, do you like, because there's nothing like being Iron Man. You know, like, if it can fulfill that promise, I feel like you'll get some... You'll get a point higher just because of that compared to I'm just shooting guns. Exactly. Exactly.

You put me down for 77, Tim. Damn, this is a tough one. I think as cool as they can be, like, I don't know, I feel like games, VR games in particular right now, they're always a little wonky and controls, and it requires a lot to get into. So there's a lot of reviewers who are like, sure, I'll check it out.

And, you know, I think, in other words, there's fewer reviewers that are super consistent and into it. And as much as Iron Man might be kind of fun, I feel like that's always what I hear. Yay, it's kind of fun. You should check it out. I feel like I hear that about... No, VR games in general.

Or like, oh, it's pretty cool. You should check it out. But I've not heard from anyone where they've been like, this game, you know, is incredible and we're coming up to Alex. That's, you know, I think we'll change the... Iron Man was insane.

I came back from that game as the first thing I told you about is how much I loved Iron Man. Like Iron Man legitimately went from... We saw the trailer. Remember, it was the day of the state of play. They debut it and we're like, oh, wow, an Iron Man game. Oh, it's VR.

Oh, I don't, is that look, that didn't look that great. Okay, but it's Iron Man, whatever. And then to get there and like literally the demo they gave you, Fran, they hand you the move ones are like, how does Iron Man fly? And you go, okay, like this. You put your hands like your side. Yeah, I remember you tell you. How does Iron Man stop?

Well, like this. Or how does he shit? Like that. And it was that thing of like, cool, you know how to play the game. Yeah. And you jumped in and you did. And I was flying around his Malibu Home, right? And it totally felt like in the movie when he's learning to fly and how to do all this different

jump to one of my most anticipated games, period, let alone PlayStation VR, let alone PlayStation. 77's not bad. No, no, no, no, not at all. Does the potential of it make you think that it can come out and be way better than Blood and Truth? Because for me, Blent Truth was the game that I played, and I was like, oh, snap.

I mean, not the game that I played because I also played Beat Sabre, but one of the games I played for PSVR, and I was like, here we go. Like, this is the jam. This is actually like a legit, awesome experience. Well, I feel like the funny thing about VR games is when we run into what is, oh, this takes me out of the, the experience, it's always something different

than normal games, right? Like, remember in Blood and Truth, a great game, I highly recommend it. That weird thing of, like, when you're following your brother, and he has to leave the room and you have to wait for the door to close, and then the door opens, so you can go, and it's like, what a weird fucking thing. And so, like, to play Iron Man,

I played two, you know, the intro of Iron Man. Can't wait for that new studio. That intro of Iron Man, like, the learning curve of it, and then the first mission where you're going up, or you start in the plane, and you fight around the plane. Like, transitions and all that stuff, I don't know how that'll look. And that's the thing of, like,

you figure we're coming up on about a year since the reveal, roughly, first day to play was what? March. March, yeah, yeah. So about a year away. Wow, that's surprising. And what's surprising, if not alarming, is that I haven't seen more of it.

I would have really felt like we would have had. Now, granted, it's the PlayStation VR game. But, you know, whatever. Like, their marketing budgets only so much. And they don't have many places to put it. Right. Right. Like, that's the thing is, like, Sony just hasn't been in the way.

But again, what's the date on it? Now it's... February 20. 8. So now we're a month from release. And I haven't seen or heard more about it. Second to last day in February this year. All right.

It's a leap year. There's more leap year. So that... It's like I... I mean, we know Ryan from camouflage. We know camouflage. We like camouflage. I'm going to keep talking about it.

You can make your jokes a little kev-kev all you want, all right? Price and right rules are better. I'm just... It's that weird thing and then it is... Yeah, what... I'm going to say... You're talking yourself up or down, Greg. You're doing both.

Well, I'm trying to... I'm definitely. I am definitely. trying to temper my own personal wow, that was amazing. That's what it sounds like. And so I'm going to say 81. But I hope it's higher than that. I think from what I played, if they could maintain that

the entire way, totally. I mean, Josh Keaton's Iron Man? Like, fuck, yeah, let's go. But like, I don't know. And I think it was just like, I haven't seen more of it in a while. Yeah. But again, how much do you want to show? How long is the game? I don't know. True. What are the numbers for that one? I'm at 84. Grace at 81. Blessings at 80.

Blessings at 80. Frens at 77. 84 I think the Iron Man's like if they make a good Ironman game I think it's going to get boosted up People want to like Iron Man and from what I've seen from the trailer of the the voice actors the way they're handling all that stuff from the cinematic stuff I'm like this could be a cool enough story that people are like that was fucking awesome We'll see yeah we will we will I hope it's that not too much longer now So next one orie and the will of the wisp I want to say by the way The Beat Sabre on console is an 80s That's because the limited amount of games songs.

PC you could add a whole bunch of them. Yeah, okay, that's fair. But still. The PC origin is definitely that way superior. I would actually say it still should they get credit for just being beat saver and amazing. And it still managed to get an 86. Do you know the PC you had a credit for it? It was like 93 or something, I think.

That sounds right. Which surprised me, but that's what I was. I actually wasn't based on that, but when I double checked, I was like, yeah. See what I mean? VR games get, you know, black. Anyway. Ori and the Will of the Whips. Oh, man.

I'm so excited for this game. What a beautiful freaking game. I'm going to say 92. See, that's what I'm thinking. Between 91 or 92. Has anyone played it? Was it playable at E3? Or Xbox in Mexico?

I feel like this has been available and playable at Xbox stuff before. Hasn't it? You played it? As far as I know, it hasn't done. Not being an Ori guy. I feel like I see Ori every way, but it probably is definitive. I have never played it. And even if I was given the chance, I wouldn't have played it

because it's not a type of game I need to demo like that. I don't think I've ever seen it at a PACs. But I don't, yeah, I don't think it was at E3. Okay. In the little area, the gameplay area. So Blessing is at 92. It seems to be. The 92 is what Blessing said?

Yep. I'm seeing stuff around mid-June for Hands-on, which probably meant E-3 or judges or something. Well, Xbox wasn't any judges. Oh, right. Yeah. Yeah, I see a lot of stuff like impressions around June 19th of the, oh, wait.

these are all 2018 wow apparently there was a very early like hands on that's what I thought I thought once it got announced that the GBC Xbox lounge they've got out of it

Wow yeah it's all from 2018 anyway so what was the previous one it was like 90 something I believe Cap could you look up previous one 88 88 this is on Xbox

Xbox 1 okay but I think that's what I think it's gonna be stronger than the first one oh 100 I do too.

And so that's where, but how, it's been in development for freaking ever. We all know the longer a game's developed, the better it is. Exactly. With this team, I believe. I definitely, yeah. Oh, it's like Cuphead, right? This is going to be a super strong game. That's exactly what I was thinking.

What did a Cuphead get? Yep. Red my mind, Gray. I was literally like, oh, yeah. Cuphead must be like a 98. Okay. I can listen to us when we talk about it. I mean, I was on my phone, you know.

God, you kids. 88 for, or I'm sorry, 86 for Cuphead on Xbox one. 88 on PC. Wait for Cuphead? 88? No. Oh, I'm lowering my score. Two?

87. I'm sticking with 902. I'm going to say flat 90. God back got an 88 on Xbox? Right. It was too hard, man. Well, 86 on Xbox. Yeah, exactly.

88 on PC. That's messed up. Let's see what it gets on a Tesla, though. You know? Fair. Greg and Fran. Yeah. Where are you at?

90. I said 90. Oh, sorry. Lock it in. I want my bucks. Boy, yeah. I, yeah. I think it's going to be a... Anyway, whatever.

It's so stupid to say what I think and then say something different. Just go with... Yeah, 89. It's odd because I want to believe much. Oh, sure, yeah, but that's part of the game, right? It's like what you think it's going to get from... It's going to get a lot of attention is what I'm thinking about.

Yeah, and that clogs it. That muddies the waters, right? I think it's so much easier usually for us to guess what, like, the IGN game spot scores are going to be. But when you start taking in all the different territories... All muddy waters. Yeah, that's the problem with this. Neo 2

Yeah What did Neo 1 get? It was in the 80s It was low 80s, I think Let's look it up But Neo Yeah, I think low 80s

Yeah, I was like What game is Mio? I put Mio video game in I'm like, what the fuck are they talking about And understanding each other I'm gonna go 84 What did Neo 1 get? 88.

Oh, wait. Oh, wait, that's on... I got an 88, really? Yeah? Man, this is weird because I can't imagine... Oh, look at that user score is a point for. Sorry. This is messed up.

How did Cuphead get an 86 on Xbox? Now I'm thinking back to my Orii prediction. I'm like, maybe I should have kept it. It goes back to, like, I think Greg made the point of, like, who are the profile that gets assigned this? How many people end up playing it? Yeah, like, this is based on 100 critics. I'm curious how many critics were on Cuphead, as an... That's a good question, actually.

I'm going to go 88. That's still 100 critics. I think. See, I'm right with you, man. Yeah. Yeah. I'm probably going to change it. I can't see it going up.

Granted, like, I don't know a crazy amount about Neil. I tried the demo, and I just got destroyed. It's, yeah. Because I'm not a soul's person. Yeah, it's exactly that type of game. It's actually quite good. It's just super hard, I guess. And yeah, now I'm thinking about it, it's, I mean, that's the Ninja Guideon team, I believe.

Yeah, it's team. They're freaking amazing. I'm going to change it. I'm going to go down to an 87. I think in a post-Secero world, I think you're tougher on it. Interesting. And I think more people play at Sakaro to like warm up.

I'm going 85. That's what I had my mind. I think Neo, the first one was not lightning in a bottle, but it did catch people off guard. Here's this cool exclusive. Here's what this is. OK, you get going with it. And it's I don't know if this one will iterate on that enough

in a modern way. Like I'm sure the combat's going to be different, but I mean, that was the thing of, Neo where it was just like, stories kind of tacked on, nobody's really feeling these characters, yada yada. And granted that's a whole different

ball of wax for why you play those games, but that still will be taken into account outside of the reviews of, this is awesome because of the combat of all. So sorry, Fran, what did you say? I didn't, I'm gonna go with an 88, actually. I think it's gonna match it. I think you're gonna get enough support

and be like, yeah, man, it's just better than the original, blah, blah, blah. And the increased attention will actually be more forgiving because people will understand more of like, okay, you just got to practice. Okay, yeah. I know you're worried that you lowered it now.

That's why I stole the sports. My thing is, should I lower it more? Because Greg made a very good point about it being a number two, right? And people, Neo 1, catching people off guard, and Neo2 probably being more of the same, maybe more refined. But now that I think about it, Ghostos Hashima is also coming out, like, I feel like this type of Souls game. I mean, it's not going to be the same, but it's similar in setting and also you're coming off of Sekiro. And there are more options if you want to play as a Samurai or if you want a Souls game. a Souls game influenced by Japanese culture.

But I also feel like that works the other way. And the same thing we're talking about Iron Man kind of working in two ways. I feel like more and more people want to play these type of games and want to enjoy them and want to invest the time necessary to get the full experience out of it. Yeah. I just don't, yeah.

I'm going to stick to my 87. Animal Crossing New Horizons. Woo! What did Animal Crossing 3DS get, whatever that one was called? We're not going to start with it. GameCube version, buddy? I don't need to know. I don't need to know that.

What was it called? What was the 3DS time? Wild World. Oh, baby, baby, it's Wild World. Yeah, let's look them both up so we have that. Wild World, 86. Okay. Look up GameCube version.

Wait, hold on. New Leaf was a 3DS one in 2013. That was in 88. And then Wild World 2005 on DS Normal was 86. So the most recent one was New Leaf. 89. Doodoo do do do do do a good guest, Tim. The height is real for this one.

Thank you. 87 on GameCube. Nice, exactly. What about N64 in Japan? I know, man. Probably, it's probably got a lot fewer reviews. I'm going to say 86. I think it's a competitive year.

And I feel like with the level of quality that that game's coming out around, I feel like people start judging things against other things. Nintendo don't got shit early in the year. and the Nintendo editors are going to have something to prove. Fair. That happens, too. Yeah, that does happen, too.

It's a good point. Sometimes they're like, man, you gotta be saying on top of Switch, man. Fucking MacCast Messina. I feel like the same people that play. Rich George, oh, that Zelda that sucks on Wii. That's a 10. Skyrots, I feel like this is going to make some sense and also no sense at the same time,

but I feel like the same people who are going to play Animal Crossing are the same people that are probably going to play Final Fantasy 7 remake. Like, I feel like, even though, like once it's PlayStation. I don't think it's one for one. I feel like there's some crossover there as far as like, people who liked in Japanese games

that give them nostalgia. So what are the scores right now for everybody? I'm at 89, blesses at 86. What are you going to say in front? Just debating. You didn't choose yet, did you? I know. You're doing what I did.

You're talking about this early. We like glanced at each other real quietly and then nobody's saying anything. I totally was waiting for Greg to like put it down. I will help you out on this one, Greg. 88 is what I'm going with. I think it's definitely going to It's going to be, yeah, people are going to be super excited about it.

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Wow. Whoa. Wow. I mean, we're talking about since 2013. first Animal Crossing that's a major one not the pocket camp or whatever I think in the same way you talk about Nintendo editors

are going to have something to prove I think with the millions of reviews MetaCritic takes into account I think there's going to be a lot of other people that are going to be like guess what everybody it is a post-starty valley world

like Animal Crossing did not make this jump this generation because again like I love Animal Crossing I can't wait to play more Animal Crossing but I am very much right now expecting just Animal Crossing and I'm fine with that

I'm great with that but I totally see where people are going to be like, this genre of collecting seashells and catching bugs and shit. Fucking nerds. I'm just saying that I think there's going to be enough people out there being like, it's not that great. And the fact that Animal Crossing has always been a niche product.

I think that you're going to get more diverse reviews than ever before. And I think you're going to have more people being like, listen, I don't know. This isn't really what it's all about. Because even New Leaf I was into, but I remember burning out on quicker than I thought I would, where Brian kept going. and kept making the up at noon studio and stuff,

and I was done. Okay. I can't wait. We'll see what happens. You got to have some bold predictions. You got to have some spice over here. I can't be like Tim over here just riding the pickle all day. Just so, you know, whatever.

Whoa, where's the pickle? Golly, Craig? Where did we get the pickle? It's on the Mediterranean River. Whoa. Man, that's a snail trail. Man, dude. For the record, I didn't mean you riding it like a canoe,

not like you were having sex with it. After? After there was a reaction, I was like, I don't mean he's fornicating with the pickle. I bet he's on the pickle. He's like riding a barrel with a, you know? I immediately pictured Pickle Rick up his ass and he's sitting on him right now. You know, Morty. James is this?

Doom material, guys. What did Doom 2016 get? Yeah, I'm on it. Doom 2016 got an 85 on PS 4. I got to be quicker about just letting the auto fill go and not hitting enter because I see it for a second. 85 on PS4 and 85 on PC

Xbox got an 87 Yeah I already had my number down My number was 87 I had it written as 88 It's gonna be higher 89 Yeah it's gonna be higher

You think so? Yeah I think the platforming stuff they added In like the jumping and the climbing And all the stuff Because I came back and was telling you about it You got super excited And like once I learned how to do it in the game

I was having fun with it into Doom now. Sure. That was a cell to people of like, hey, that's coming back. Yeah. I know I'm not part of this whole thing. I'm feeling a 92 right now. So if anybody wants to get out.

You're crazy. This is why you're not a part of it. Here's the thing, what did IJN give Doom? I don't fucking know. Because whatever they gave it, it was a mistake. Whoa! I love IGN. I think they're great.

God somebody does. But, man. The score they gave Doom? Oh, 7.1. What the fuck? Yeah. Yeah. Like, how dare they? How dare they?

I think it was like they didn't like the multiplayer or something like that I guess Fran reviewed it or something Wait, wait really? You can No, Frang just does bad reviews Everything beyond just its awesome style

Into account Job Gilroy did I played due Freelancer? Let's fine I'm gonna say 89 All right

So bless is at 89 Greg is at 91 What? I don't think I said that I said 89 as well I said 89 as well Nice try though Tim Lowe That's fine. We can be it.

My bad. 89 brothers. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. What's better than 69 and 89? I'm going with 87. I originally wrote 88 in my sheep, but I'm like, you know, that's still a great score. Yeah, I'm going to go 90.

Wow. Yeah, I'm going 90. Yeah, I'm going 90. All right. Now, woof. This one, bleeding edge. I know. Yeah.

Oh. I'm... Xbox exclusive. Yeah. This is Ninja Theory. Yeah. Yeah. Doing a little multiplayer.

It was very fun when we played it at E3. It's very complicated. It's essentially, imagine Overwatch mixed with Devil May Cry. It's going to have an audience. They're going to fucking love it. I'm going to try that game out. Just because I love Ninja Theory and it's on Game Pass. But I'm going to say 79.

I think it's hard to come into that sphere. It makes something special. Especially if you're one similar to Overwatch, which, Overwatch, I think, is set a high bar. It did. And this won't hit that. Yeah, and this won't hit that. But also you're doing something that's different and weird. And there's a large likelihood of that not hitting.

And so, 79 is where I'm sticking. Yeah, you can put me down for a 75. And if I think you're going 76. If they hit 79, I think that's a success for them. Yeah, I mean, these are not bad. I'll get chummy with you boys, do a 77. There we go. We're all in that.

Yeah, it's a very. Does both said 77? No, he said, 75. I'm messing up. Ow. Are you okay? My foot slipped off the stool, everybody. I'm sorry.

Yeah, yeah, I feel like in those score ranges, an average review of a good game, and it is good, but meaning, like, you get a lot of eyes on it like you're saying, and it's probably good, but need some additions. But I've not played it. This is what we're doing today. I played it, but it's making everything up.

Here's the thing. I played it, and I was like, this isn't a game for me, but I understand the quality of it, and like I saw everybody else having fun to do in their thing. It's like the opposite of Journey to the Savage Planet

where I played it and just like, whatever. And no one else talked about it all at Judge Week. I mean, look, this is coming from a guy who gave Anthem a 68.

And so I don't know what that is on Metacritic, but yeah, I'd be curious. But, uh, half-life, Alex. Oh, yeah. I've been waiting.

54. There you go. I've been waiting for this one, Tim. Oh, my gosh. This is the start us off then. This is the interesting one. Hoof.

I hadn't decided, but I wrote down whew, man. I wrote down, even surprised my still, look at it. Oh, it was Barry's back. What do you guys think I wrote down? Can you bring up the other half-lives

how much they scored on Metacritic? So what I did in my spreadsheet, I wrote down like quick guide. You know, I didn't decide the exact, quick guidance, not knowing if it was, you know, 10 point or whatever. But I wrote down a 95. Whoa.

On Metacritic. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 95. I wrote down. That's not my guess. We got 96 for Half-Life 1 and 2. And then 90 for Half-Life 2 episode. Yeah, it's funny because I'm not even sure you can compare that.

I would look at Portal as well. How did Portal fare? Portal's got to be like 92 or there it is, 95, 90. Right there, bam. Oh, man. So, I, I, you know what? I'm going to go for now, unless I change by the very end of it. 94.

I'm going 93. Yeah, I'm going 94. Confident. They don't mess around. And also, I try. I truly do believe that Halflight Alex has been under development in, you know, cahoots with the hardware. The Valve beer. Gosh, yeah, what's the name of it?

Index and all that. But they've been, you know, eyeing this for a long time. Nobody got that pun. And so, you know, I believe it's going to be a standard setting experience that people are going to look at. I do believe that Valve wouldn't take this amount of time in both the hardware and the gameplay. And also, they know how to make half-life. We know that. They know the standard.

So I think it's going to get like, holy cow, this is it. If you're going to play VR, get it. This setup is what you need to, like, experience. And it's a full-fledged, you know, incredible experience that everybody needs to try. I think it's going to get very high score. This is another interesting one because I think there's a chance that it could come out and be the VR killer app. Yeah. You know, and come out and be in 95 or be in 96,

and everybody looks at it as, like, one of the best VR games of all time. That's what I'm saying. Or it can come out. It gets a 63. Well, see, I don't think, I don't think that would happen. Like, I think, I think at the very least, this will be a very great half-life game because Valve treats that property with respect, as far as I know. I don't know if they've ever put out, like, a card game for Half-Life or anything weird.

They don't mess around. Bichung a machine. And so, I don't know. I'm going to say 91. Above the 90s. A very hard number to beat, as you said, Tim. I'm going to say 88. There he is.

Mr. I think it's all the same room. The VR problems we've talked about before, where you get the reviews that just doesn't work for it. I didn't like it. I get car sticking. Just for the record. Because I love that you're doing this.

In other words, you have some very interesting perspectives where I totally didn't expect you to be a little more like. Well, I'm playing the game. I do think I'm in the boat with you. you guys have like, I think Valve did everything the way they've done it for a reason. So they're going to come out and be like, bam, this thing's fucking awesome. It is a good reminder again. This is not our guess. This is not our review.

It's not what I want. This is our guest for this watered down, you know, not watered down, but in mass, you know, review set. What did Greg put down for Marvel Iron Man VR? What did you put down? 81. 81. Man. I think VR is a hard sell.

Seven points away from that. I hope not. I'm not docking Iron Man I'm just saying, man. You kind of are there. You're kind of shitting all over. I just, I mean, it's freaking VALC. I'm way more excited for Iron Man

VR than I am Alex. I fucking love Iron Man. Do you don't like Iron Man? You're not American. Get out of here. Remember we did for us? Save our lives. In other words, I hope that

as Blessing seem to agree, I really hope it comes out and people are like, man, like that was just such a cool pace because there's a pacing that's got to be, I think, figured out in VR in the same way that with, you know,

when you get new hardware and everything, you get this new medium of, and also the way that people are playing games right now. What do they want? Do they want to like a skill tree? Do they want puzzles all the time or only occasionally in Fallen Order went through this? It hodgepaged it, but I think it was a lot of fun

because it hit on the meta, for lack of a better way, put it of what people were just into. And I would hope that that's what this is in this time for VR. For me, I'm on, I feel like I'm on the same coin as Greg, but like on the other side. Because I think it does have the issue of like, it being a VR title means it's going to be, held back by the issues of VR that it may or may not be able to leap over, but at the same time,

I think since it is a VR title, I think it's easier to blow people away with an excellent VR game than it is if it was just like a regular half-life game. And we always talk about, you know, games made that are console exclusive are built from the ground up for this one crazy thing. And like, this game is being made to be the showcase on the greatest. Yeah, which is like their whole thing is power. So yeah. But the thing about that they remember is like a lot of people who reviewed aren't going to be playing it on index. Yeah, it's also coming out on other platforms. Wait, though, just for clarity, this one has to

take an aside from your rule set. You said console. Yeah, yeah, you're right. So we're just saying the best piece. For this one. I mean, I think it's on index and Oculus. I don't know if it's on five. This will be the highest score for just this.

That's fair. You don't want any gotchas. That we find out it comes for PlayStation later. And then you're like, well, I said original. Yeah, no, no, no. This is the best Alex version. Alex will be coming to PlayStation VR at some point. It will not be coming this year.

Take it to the bank. Greg Miller approved. Oh, I 100% agree. Resident Evil 3. Resident Evil 3. Do you look up, R.E2? Yeah. I already looked into this too, and I was like, man, I think I put down my score.

Oh, God. Resident Evil 2. I'll take that back. PlayStation 4, 2019, 91. Now, the remake. Is that what we're talking about, right? Yeah, PS429. You said 91?

Yeah, 91. Cool. I'm going to start off and say 90. I'm going to say 89. That's funny. Having not looked at the all-time scores I had written down 93 because I'm like, man, like they were on to all the good stuff in RE2, which is beloved as well. But I was like, it's just going to be improved gameplay, improved pacing, I would hope, right?

So that's how I sort of quickly arrived at a few points higher than the 91. But it also... R2 is better than RE3, the Eurochis. I know. That's what I was just saying. The remakes, I think that RE3 could benefit more than R2 did. There's the nostalgia factor for that, don't you think? But I think nostalgia goes to RE2.

That's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah. And so it gets, maybe that's what we factored into your score too. Like it getting a 91, part of it was like, oh my God, my dreams have come true. And then a bunch of people just like, who knows, maybe they won't even play three because they're like, well, I don't know. I'm just going off a flame thore. Like him having a flame thrower, I was like, yeah. That's a good game.

80. Four. Wow. Whoa. Whoa. I would hope that they didn't screw their formula up. I was somebody who, I don't know. I really don't have a great answer.

Never played R3, right? And I look at this trailer. And if it wasn't for you guys being like, I would be like, all right, this just doesn't look great. What's weird to me is your reaction to that trailer after R.E2. I know. Like how good R. It just doesn't look like what I, I mean, what it's like.

It looks like RE2 a year later. But it looks like I got machine guns and I'm running around. And I got this fucker chasing me with a flame thrower and shit. Like, I want to be like where I'm on my last bolt and there's a room full of zombies. That's what I want. I want to change mine because drags making me scared. I'm changing mine to an 86. Partly... Haters. Well, here's the thing. I like to say I appreciate how much you respect my opinion, I do. It's coming

after, and this, I mean, fears. My reasoning is a little bit different from yours, but it is coming after RE2 remake. And so we're going to be judging it based on R2. And if R2 is better than, you know, the score is supposed to be less. And we're in, also, like... What if it's worse? I feel like it's... I mean, it could be worse, but also, like, I feel like you're going to be less... You're going to be less impressed with it because we've already gotten that. We've already gotten that quality of Resident Evil and the graphics and the gameplay and all that stuff.

Right? And R.E3 is going to be doing, you know, it's going to have more open environments. It's going to have a nemesis or whatever his name is. Right. And so like that's going to be cool. But will it hit us the same way R2 hit us? You know, at that first point when we realize like, oh, this is going to be a good game. Also, you have the multiplayer mode, which can be good or bad.

Yeah. Yeah, it could take away from me. That's a great point, actually. Oh, man. And this is why it's tough to be a critic, because this is exactly what happens with reviewers going through stuff. You know, they're getting affected by nostalgia, and they're getting affected by, well, I already played it last year.

I don't know. Even though the game's better, like, I already got my fill of it, you know, and so on. I would like to believe that this is better-paced and just the engine's running better now, and it already was amazing. But, you know, they tweak a few things, and hopefully, yeah, they change up RE3 enough that it meets the same standards that RE2 did.

So as much as I think you guys have a lot of very strong points Yeah because when something it remade comes out like that You're like holy cow they did it And they get a lot of credit for it But I'm gonna say a 90 I want to believe that this is still the genre defining game And they're able people are like clamoring for it And also Resident Evil 7 turned out pretty darn good

And so I think Resident Evil's got a lot of good going for it It's that right balance flight This is super spooky But it doesn't go into the realm of like this is like awkwardly like creepy you know satanic slash whatever you know what i mean like some games get so wild and they're super scary and awesome but you know what i mean this is like the it's like the blockbuster franchise but it also does everything so well and so i think 90s doable all right guys i mean full stop for a second yeah are you aware that pat upon ps4 has a 72 on

metacritic i gm didn't fucking review it where we're gonna do it no wonder um No wonder I'm pulling fucking teeth to get a goddamn review done. I'm tweeting right now. I'm gonna tweet it, Dan, if you, if they let you review it. I'm tweeting at IG& GameSpot right now. I'll do it for free. Who wants me to review Pat upon 2 when this shit drops? Oh my God.

I want you to go back and review the first one and add it to the list since they never did. All right. I mean, we're in the thick of it right now, guys. Final Fantasy 7 remake. This is such a tough one, man. I played it. Did everybody get a chance to play it or no? I've not played it yet.

I've done the demo. I played at E3 and I cannot believe that this game won't be Game of the Year next year. And that's saying... This year. Yeah, shit, this year. Now that it is this year. I don't think this game is going to be game of the year. I just can't believe it's not going to be.

It's so good. But the game's coming out this year, it's just, it's unfair. Like the quality, the level of quality that I'm expecting. But Final Fantasy7 remake is freaking... It's pretty good. It is as good for Final Fantasy7 as R.E2 remake was for, R.E. 2. And that is not just saying, oh, man, it's going to be

a good remake. It's like, this is going to be a fantastic video game standalone. Do you think that there's going to be, you know, the classically cheesy square dialogue moments that might turn some people off? I think a lot of that stuff is going to be tuned in a way that just like R.E., where R.E.2's dialogue was horrible. And in the

remake, it wasn't. It felt modern and it felt, it felt good. It was never great. It was never Shakespeare. But like... But it didn't get in the way. Yeah, it felt modern and right for what that game is. And I do think there's going to be a lot of detractors on this game from fan side and non-fan side, where it's going to be people like, oh, they changed this, I didn't like that, and they're going to be mad about it. And there's also going to be the people that haven't actually even played Fun Fantasy 7

and just going to be, oh, it's only part one, like just adding a lot of baggage to it, and not just judging it for the game that it is, knowing there's more coming. Yeah, it's funny how that adds to it. It's like, getting a sense is going to be a pretty meaty game. And so I Yeah, like we don't know right We don't know if it's gonna be a 70 hour game It very well could be right

People are just saying Like bomb-hastee 15 ask Oh yeah And I didn't finish that because it was so freaking long So 93 Oh wow Believer I don't think it's gonna go that high

What did RE2 get 91? 91 Yeah but yeah I feel like RE is more accessible man But 91 I've heard so many people

This is one of the most beloved games of all time Then that's the thing. As well as I was about, I've heard so many people talk about Final Fantasy 7 being the greatest game ever made. And so a version of that that is R.E2 level of remake quality, yeah, I think it's going to be, I think it's going to hit home for a lot of people. And it's an RPG and it's going to be deep and it's going to have a lot more story than Resident Evil. And counterpoint to that, I feel there's a lot of people that wouldn't say it's the best game ever made that say it's the most overrated game of all time. Fair.

And I think that those people are going to be like, fuck, this is awesome. interesting I think it's going to address a lot of their concerns I'm excited for it the soundtrack alone is going to be oh yeah dude that's the one thing because I've never I've never really dug deep into Final Fantasy 7 but I love the soundtrack like I can listen to that soundtrack all day and all the arrangements we're hearing are being fucking fantastic the gameplay's so good it looks amazing I mean they've spent a long time

the changes they're making story-wise like I'm super into they're not changing things just to change them they're changing things to make them better and more interesting as a standalone where are you guys at, Fran and Greg? What were your picks? 91, 93. Dang.

It's weird, yeah, I'm on the other side of that 90 for some reason. I wrote down 90 is my guidance. Yeah, I just feel like for whatever reason it's going to end up in that, you know, yeah, that 88 spot. It's a good spot. I'm going to go with 88. I feel like I'm choosing it too often,

but I feel like we're all. targeting games that are of that quality. Yeah. It's no surprise. 85. 85 from Greg Miller. Cyberpunk. There it is. Ho-wee!

What a Witcher got? We get to play this? Very high, like 90. Witcher 3 Wild Hunt on PlayStation 4 got a 92. Do you say you got to play it? Oh no, sorry, we've watched. We've watched. We never got to play it. It felt like I was playing. Yeah.

It's weird because I almost remembered like, yeah. It feels like you played it, right? Yeah, we've watched two giant demos of it. I really feel like this game has a chance at being, when it first launches, being number one on Metacritic. Yeah, yeah. And then over a couple weeks coming down. Getting above O'Carrant of time.

Yeah. I can see it in its early stage of like, you know, review embargo. I think it could be at like 100. And then slowly kind of come down. So where's it going to end up? There's always the chance. It's so ambitious, too, that there's that janky factor. That that's what I'm most worried about.

I believe in them for this one. I think that they are going to hit it. This game has been, we've known about this game for, it feels like a decade. Like, it's not actually a decade, but like, what, 2013? E3. It's been a long time. Yeah. Six years.

Like seven years. You're right, it's 2020. Yeah. Kev, can you bring up all time again? I have a number of my mind, but I don't want to wait this time. I'm tired of going first. All time. Yeah

Uh Wait one He says it takes No, yeah Yeah, see that Um There we go There we go

Where's Last of Us on this list That's a good question I just search for us I like that way of thinking Last of Us is a 95 Woo That's remastered It's the PlayStation 4 version

Yeah, okay I think that says PS3 also got 95. Yeah, I mean, I think we all agree. It's going to be high, man. It's going to be a big one. Where's Breath of the Wild? Wow, a little big plan at 3 is 95. I think Brother Wild's higher than that.

Oh, no, not three. I'm going to say, wait, that's not. Yeah, I hold like in a second. Great game. 97. Three or the first one? I'm going to go 907. Oh, okay.

Three. No, whoa, we got a sock door. You like using the... What do you say? Yeah, that's... 97. Wow. Yeah.

But that's what. Breath of the Wild has. I'm saying 904. I didn't know. That's what was on my mind. You were always on my mind. You were always on my mind. I'm going to say 95. I think the thing that might bring it back in review scores is some of the game breaking bugs. No, not even that. I think some of the writing as far as like social politics wise might bring it back a bit. There's already already been a little bit of that. Oh yeah. And so I think I think critics who are into what the story is and what the narrative is and like, you know, kind of looking at it.

Yeah, looking at it with like a tight lens might see some things that they take issue with. Yeah, so I'm like caught up on the, I think I had written down the 95 and I'm caught up on like deciding to be above or below it. You said 97, the breadth of the wild score. I'm changing the 96. Changing in 96. He's doing exactly what he said it would do in Medicare. He started at 100 and he walked it down. Yeah.

By the end, if we go longer, it'll be a 94. Yeah, there's the Nintendo bump. It's real. It is. Zelda as well. Just reinventing Zelda, you get. Breath of all is one of the greatest games. No, I'm 100% with you, but still, when you're thinking about reviewers.

It's Nintendo magic. But they do have the, you know, the Project Red Witcher magic. They do. They absolutely do. Like, Witcher was janky to a point, right? Like, the Witcher's, I should say, but like, dude, I mean, Witcher 3, everybody loves. Adores. Yeah, I was on that 94 was the number that I, and that's what you said, Greg?

No, I said, yeah, I did. Yeah, Grace said 94. Sorry, I'm still really on this paddine news. I want to believe it's, I want to believe, I want to believe it's higher based on. Who knew it was an inside job? You know what I mean? The industry working against itself. Yeah, I'm going to stick with that 94.

Predator hunting rules. It's called geo right now. What's gorgeous? This out, Greg. Okay, everybody's me, Greg Miller. I urge you to write your congressman to get Pat a Pott-upon reviewed on PlayStation 4. Friday 13th, 61. Oh, now, that's...

That got a lot of flack though when it came out. I mean, as a huge Friday 13th fan... It is not really like the game. Who understands all the problems. Keep in mind a completely different ball of wax. Yes. Where that was, hey, we're making a small independent game. Hey, do you want the Friday the 13th license?

Sure. Suddenly, everyone's eyes on this game. Oh, fuck. Okay. Shit. They put it out as a small independent game. Totally, everybody jumped on it. Crash servers.

Get off a bit more. It was garbage forever as they worked on it worked on it worked on. But it's a cool game. I actually really enjoyed playing it. Which one, Friday? Yeah. Yes. And I've,

And Predator I've played, and I fucking adore as well. And I can't wait for this. What's, again, interesting is that, of course, Ilphonic, the developer on Friday 13th, Gun Media, the publisher. Now you're talking about with Predator, Elphonic, the developer, publisher, PlayStation. This is a first party title for all intents and purposes, right?

This is an insomnia. Okay. I don't, yeah, well, insomnia. Yeah, it's basically like Insomniac and Spider-Man. Yeah. Yeah. They make other, you know... They're making the first party games for other platforms.

Right, exactly, exactly. Technically, what we used to call second party, but Insomnia X says that isn't true, and I don't believe him anymore, but whatever. So I think now, hey, you have limited... You have a limited scope of view now. You're making one version of the game, and here's all of the PlayStation back-end bells and whistles

to make it all run and not be a garbage fire. I'm going to say 84. Wow. I can't wait, but I think it's one of those games that I don't think applies to everybody. In the same way, I think firewalls is better than a 74. I understand that some people have bad connection, this thing, they're not good at it and enjoy the mechanics.

Did you feel like Predator Hunting Grounds was a better quality of the than Friday the 13th being played? It's not even, it's honestly insulting to put them in the same conversation. Yeah, I mean, if you would have put that game in front of me and not had gun or ill-phonic anywhere around or like, I wouldn't know. I would have been like, oh man, it's cool. They're doing something like Friday 13th did, but way better. It runs. And so they were like, no, it is us. my god, winker, wunker, wunker.

You know what I mean? I said 84 on this one, even though I personally bet I would review it higher, but that's only based on, you know, a 30 minutes of point. You would review it higher than 84? You'd think so. If, again, this is always the if, like days gone ifs. If the, what I play, if Mario. I played for an hour or 45 minutes, the same map over and over again with different

people as predator, me as predator, different roles and stuff. If that is fun consistently throughout and there's progression and there's, you know what you know, all that stuff. I think you're looking at a really great game. But if it's just that, then it's 80s, low 80. 78. Okay. Tim's more in my range, I think.

See, where I try to temper myself with Iron Man, I'm kind of letting myself run wild than this one. Yeah, I'm going to go 76. Plus now the Gio's there, he's got the golden touch, they say. That's it. Because he has gold shoes. I mean, the game's basically done, so I don't know. So you said 86, France? No, no, 70s.

God damn. I'm going to have to start auditing every time you put something in because there's never. I'm clarifying. on this issue. Let's hope if you've been in the comments, just write down everything in the comments. Wait, so what are the numbers so far? 86?

4, I think it was great. 84, 76, 78. So what, remind me how the point system works. You have to get it. You have to nail it, you get a point. Oh, if we get it exactly? Yeah. I thought if you got close.

It's not if you get closest? You said if it was closest. And Blessing literally was like, well, if I went over and Greg went under, but they were the same amount of points, we each get a point, you went, uh-huh. You did the same amount of points is what he said. That's why I said, uh-huh, too.

Oh, so you were saying only if you get it. I did say in this episode, if you get it, you get a point. You have to nail it. Oh, okay. Dang, because I was going to say 75. But that's kind of fun because of the 100-point system. So it doesn't matter how close you were. Now it sounds like a man's game, and I appreciate it.

That changed the whole thing. Now I'm thinking of all the mistakes I've made already. Oh, that only kind of makes sense, right? You're on a hundred point scale, but you would have changed it because you thought you were closer. If I knew how to nail it in it? Because here's the thing, because... I tried so hard to make the way. what you're saying, but it actually is completely illogical.

Because you're guessing what the score is. No, because on one of the first ones, I think somebody was like, oh, 73, and I was like, okay, I'm going to go 74 because in my mind, if it's higher than 74, that's what I'm going to get it. And I follow you. Yeah. But in your mind, you're saying you think it's going to get a higher score, what's the difference?

But anyway. Well, okay. I see. I see. I see. I see what he's saying. I see what he's saying. Everybody else got none.

He's saying he maybe bet. He was in between the score that he thought it would get and somebody else's just the play. Like one over or one under. I got a piece so bad. We need more than one bathroom. You did the knock, knock, and Nick went, poopie, poopie. Yeah, go to the sink.

Catch your sink. Oh, shoot. So we have to nail it. I'm going to say 69. Lucky number. Wow. Wow. Wow.

Wow. That hurts. Gears tactics. It's a second 69, everybody. I like this guy. Gears tactics. That's funny. I was going through the biggest games, and I look.

I was like, I don't know if we're going to do that one. Yeah. And so. I wanted to put a couple fun ones on there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Forget, can we look at a footage of that again? I'm looking at the trailer. Sort of the isometric, right?

In this war, every move matters. It's like X-Combo with Geertrard, right? Right, yeah, exactly. Good way to put it, great, thank you. You're welcome, that's what I'm here for? What's, what's the last X-Combe? X-Combe 287. Is Gears Tactics mobile?

Or is it? It's on PC. It's not on PC. It's not on console. Okay, yeah. Yeah, PC. Is it coming on mobile? I don't know, is it?

I think it might just be PC. I don't think it's coming out on Xbox. Yeah, I feel like you need to see more of it, but... It's coming to Xbox One and Windows. Really, it's going to Xbox One. Interesting. I think... I remember.

Gears Tactics. Is Halo... It's console. Oh, wait. So we got to go with the Xbox One version. So the Xbox One version. Is Gears tactics like another Halo Wars? I'm thinking of something else?

Oh, no, I mean, I think Halo Wars was... I don't know if it had the same combat system. Dang, that was a while ago. But, but, you know, it's, I mean, it's like X-Com, you know X-com, right? Yeah, and that's what this is? Yeah, it looks to be more like that. Although, it was showing some more, like, over-the-shoulder stuff. I'm curious if they...

But I think that's more, it's kind of like... Yeah, it's most of the close-up moments. Mario Rabbits, where it's, like, just in those moments, having those things. Tim, you can go pee now. Thank you. Like, we're not crazy, though. He fucked us with those rules, right? Oh, no, totally. Totally.

It was messed up. Because you literally said, what if we do the same amount of points. Yeah, the amount is zero. Why wouldn't he say that? Will you get no points? It's too hard now. No, it's not too hard. I wish it was this hard from the beginning.

If I had money, I had to nail it. I thought you thought it was too hard. Never mind. No, I'm on your side. I just want to say. I don't think. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, I wish it was harder. I'm on your side.

What do you think Predator is going to get? Yeah, tough guy. 78. It's not a bad guess, actually. I hope it does better. I'm gonna tell him in 81. For which one? This one? Well, Gears Tactics. What a weird pick.

Greg, just to be cool. I know. Like, what the fuck? Really? It's fine. I mean, it's a franchise, but yeah, I didn't have it on my list either. I'm sorry, what was like? I mean, I think that's a game I can have a lot of fun with. You and me are going to have a great time with that, buddy. But that doesn't necessarily mean, like, it's going to get a great score. True, I know. A lot of people don't have taste like you and me.

This is an interesting one because I feel like this is a game that you'd want to play on PC, and that's going to review better on PC. But we're doing the console release. XCOMs does it? Consul. Does it? Okay. X-Com's beloved, though.

So is yours? No, not really actually. Yeah, but not in this. I mean, ESCOM's beloved because of this gameplay style. I'm like, you know. I'm going to say, I got my score. 79. Okay.

I'm going to say 81. Oh. I'd be curious. I seem to see eye to eye on some things. Greg. All right. Here's tactics. Where's everyone at?

I said 79. Greg and I are 81's. That's what we call ourselves. Eighty-1 boys. I meant 77. Okay So Greg 81

Blessing 79 79 Fran 81 81 Minecraft Dungeons Ooh I'll tell you what You guys were doing shows

I was playing another game back there The eclipse for PSI love you And I was like playing this I'm not having a bad time With the game But I was like I could really go for dungeons I really wish I had Minecraft

Dungeons right now I think that's going to be A delightful little game I think it's going to do well Yeah Yeah 87 Oh, 83.

I'm going 84. That's good. Thank you. I wrote all of us, sir, similar to what I wrote down, which of course was 85. And I'm going to go with, I stick with it. Stick with it, man. All right. Hold on to your butts, guys.

Fast and furious. Oh, you. Ah, I like that you put this in here. That's like. That too, dude. 6.7. 67. 37, sorry, sorry.

67 for Greg. Yeah, I'm going to go... 64. I think it's real high. Here's the thing. I'm a mixed mind with this because I think it's going to come out. It's not going to be great.

But this is from the project Cars people. And, you know, the main issues I had with the trailer was that the human beings look terrible. But this isn't a game about human beings. It's a game about cars. No. It's a game about family. It's a game about family.

You're right. Thank you. You're right. But at the end of the trailer, it's a game about the trailer. day you're going to be driving in this game. And so as long as the driving is good, it's not going to be terrible. I'm going to go 65. All right. Let's see. We got Greg at 67, Bless at 65, Fran at 64, 59. Fair enough. I was thinking about going that low. Which is one point above Anthem, I think, is what you said. I feel like I don't know.

But that's what the hopes that the project hardest people do the project cars thing. Yeah. You don't think Vin Diesel will be the thing that elevates it? No. Last of Us Part 2. He has the weird muscles. He might be able to elevate a car. Weird muscles. Last of Us Part 2.

Last of Us was at 95. 95. Greg is the only one that played it. I have. Who wants to touch me? I do. Thank you. Thank you.

It smells like Neil Druckman. I'm going 97. Holy shit. Whoa. look at that I'm not going until Greg goes on this one that's what I'm saying right now

he's played it and I feel like you know just curious where he thinks of things that work against it are maybe the story is tropey or something in spots or it just doesn't live up to what the Last of Us's original story was I think

from the again it's a preview I've been burned before by video games from the preview I played this plays so much better and is so much more enjoyable from a thinking like how am I going to get through this? What am I going to do in this area? Last of Us perspective. Like right there.

You know what I mean? I think the environment's, I think obviously looks better. That's a stupid thing to say. It's an odd-dog. They've had more years since PlayStation 4. Like, I think this is going to be a, is going to be better than The Last of Us won.

The problem is, do people, are they going to think the story is tropey? Our expectations aren't going to be too high and there's no way it can meet it. Is it going to be that people have an axe to grind from before the last of us they think is overrated. so they come into this even harder, like their screws even tighter on.

Well, this sucked and that sucks, so I'm not thinking it's, you know, as good or at 90 or whatever. All that being said, too, you put it in a nice stuff. Like, that is one of the greatest video games of all time. I think last was one of the greatest video. No, I'm with you.

I'm with you. But the sequel, is it going to do that magic too? When Greg came back from his demo, I thought he saw God. I was like, oh, wow, I can see a sparkle in his eye. What did God of War get? Can you look that on? That's actually a good question.

But it's not the same. It's not. I think it, I think there's a lot of similarities. Oh, 94. I just guessed out of nowhere. I don't think so because God of War,

I think there was less, there's expectation on it, but it wasn't coming off the most successful God of War. You know what I mean? And there's only been one last one. It was more like a Doom 2016 situation. Exactly.

It was like, hey, let's reboot all this. They're not rebooting this. This is part two of the same story. Like it's not even, it's not even last of us two. Yeah,

part two. But I think it's somewhere in the sense that it's a, It's a recent PlayStation exclusive masterpiece. And that's my thing. I just think that when we're thinking about PlayStation exclusives now, there is a new bar set. And I think that this is going to cross the bar.

I'm going to lower by one point. I'm going to say 96. By the way, where did that 94 forgot of war has me worried? This may sound odd, but where did Days gone end up after all? Days go by! Well, it's interesting because some people really enjoyed it, however. 7.1. Yeah, originally it was in the 6th.

Click on, click on, click on it. It's a 71 for critics, what a user say. Probably a 99. 100. Eighty-one. Eighty-one. Yeah. So it's funny.

Yeah, the users like the one of the first. Because a lot of the early preview stuff. I'm saying 90 for Lasvas. 90 for last one? 90? Yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna, you're wilding. I'm crazy.

I don't think that's, why is that crazy? 90? 90? For Lasfus part two? Yeah. Did we see the same gameplay trailer? You saw when she hit under the car? It's a gameplay mechanic.

A lot of, a lot of, a lot of the points Greg made, I think, I think, are solid points. And I think this is a, where the last of us, there was no expectation of what this game was going to be. These were the uncharted people. What was this game going to be? And that's why that game. Uncharted three out of ten. Like, reviewed so well because it blew everybody's expectations out of the water where it's this is just like, how do you follow that up? This game is getting tens.

And when a game is I don't think you will give this a ten. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And like that those scores alone are going to like. I think it'll get tens. I don't know if it'll get a lot of tens. Yeah, but you get it down to a nine. And at a certain point, you need eight. Yeah.

It's like, who's giving last was part two and eight unless there's something in there that's like, oh, wow, they really dropped the ball on this. And to your point earlier about multiplayer, this game doesn't happen. It's shedding anything that even could lose at points. Well, people love the, yeah. Yeah, people did, but then I'm sure there's a lot of people.

Yeah, you're right, you're right, right. Yeah, it's funny that, uh, because like IGN can only give it a nine or ten. There's nothing in between now. Oh, yeah, that's a changes. Yeah, that's true. Changes a little. I mean, it's funny because they will influence.

others just by doing the review probably it happens you know um dang yeah i mean it's going to be one of the highest i'm gonna say 96 i'm gonna say 96 so far i'm i'm so close to give it in a 96 i'm gonna say 95 though yeah that's i'm gonna go with a 93 marvels avengers this could be anywhere this is like a spectrum of where it could be down for this too it's like anywhere from a 65 to a 87. I wrote down in 83 and I'm going to stick with it. Whatever went into writing that into the Excel sheet. That was the last one on my list before I ducked out to catch the Uber. So I'll just stick with it.

Yeah. My reasoning was a lot of like I thought a little bit about, I know it has some destiny-esque stuff. I thought a little bit about that but certainly in the world of Tomb Raiders and just games that those folks have done. Whatever the case, I think it's going to be cool. but it's going to have some of those flaws. And, you know, it's going to be freaking awesome to play as some of these characters in that full fidelity. And so, anyway, I would have went 82.

Yeah, super close. But with the delay, I think it bumps it up a little bit more. Potentially. Got that polished? Substantially more. Oh. You getting up to 88? No, no, no, not that high.

I mean, a couple points here is that substantial when you're talking about, like, 80 and above. I'll probably go, maybe four or five. You can always change it if, you know what I mean? Is it? Don't do that with your tongue ever again.

I'm gonna go. A little cheek slap. You know what? I want to fucking believe, man, 85. Let's fucking go, guys. Yarno Wiling. And isn't it weird?

Like, it isn't just me, right? Picking those five numbers seems weird, doesn't it? Yeah, because it's just me. It seems like a cop out. It's like, well, it's probably going to be an 84. What are the chances it could be 85? That's what's what to keep happening. happening to me. Because it's in the middle. I'm going 84. I'm going 84. Maybe it's just me.

I think for me now that we're where we know that we're happy, we have to nail the numbers. That's why I'm sticking away from the five. I'm like, that's too easy. See, I know, but like nothing stops games. I'm going. I'm going. Wow. For Marvel's Avengers. A game I am excited to play and very interested in 68. I knew he's going to drop a big. I think it's a game as a service. I think it's, I think it's them vent. I think it's Crystal venturing out into that for the first time. I think it's going to be like every other,

or not every other, the majority of games as a service that launch and it is not the complete vision. This is what it is. Hopefully the story is really cool and the voice acting is awesome. From all the clips we've seen

are Troy and Nolan and all them. It looks great, right? Travis, what up? Laura. I won't keep going down the cast. It all seems awesome and I want to play that and I want to see that,

but it is still like, I'm waiting for that preview of an invite. I've come here and we'll put you into groups of four and you'll play this, story stuff, and then you'll come over and play together and see what that's like, and is that fun? Does that work? Let alone the fact that, you know, they have plans for other characters and content and stuff like that.

All right, cool. Like, do they deliver on day one with that? Do they, do the servers deliver? Yeah, you know, the balancing? Destiny 2 had an 83 on Metacritic, I want to say. And then Tom... That was well-rored. Oh, sorry, PC. 83. 83. And then Tom claims the division two on PS4 has an 82. And I don't think Marbles Avengers is going to launch as well as either of those. Yeah, that's the thing. And it's not a knock-and-up. them. It's just to knock against how hard that genre is won't. It's not launched though.

Yeah, exactly. It's by the end of the year. But I don't think they're going to go back and Iegean won't re-review it. Oh, right, right. No way. But I mean, even... I think they will. They've been doing that a lot. Not that quickly. They just re-reviewed Battlefront 2. That's more than a year later. Avengers's coming on September, though. Yeah, you do that. You're right. September, it's not May. It's not May. They're not going to rerew by that time.

And also, like, these scores that we just read, are scores that have, our scores that, um, uh, have had time to breathe. And so that's why I'm sticking. Yeah. It's a good point. Major patches may not necessarily affect it. Like Days Gone is a great example. Again, I'm not saying Days Gone is necessarily not a 70 or an it.

It is an 80, but you see a big discrepancy between what users thought versus the initial press. And it didn't change. I think this game does not look great. And everything we've seen of it does not look great. I think that it has the elements to be great as the lowest common denominator of getting people into these type of games. and it's Avengers.

All they need to do is give enough interesting story beats and character moments and make it fun enough to play as multiple characters and I think that people are going to really latch on to it. So I'm sticking with the 84. You guys scared me, though, this one's a tough one. I don't mean it's scary, I just want to tell you the truth. I'm going to take a couple of these off.

Okay, coward. I mean, I don't think that we... Originally, I planned Imran being on the show so there was a couple that were more geared towards. him. Nerdy shit thing? Sorry, guys. Bravely default, too.

Yeah. So, okay. Dying Light 2. Kevin, what did dying like one get on Metacritic? Beloved. Maybe after the fact. Yeah, I don't know how

it was. I don't remember if it concurrently it was left, but. Kevin. Because I know y'all liked it here. Yeah. I can't remember how it reviewed.

They supported it for so long. PlayStation 4 dying like got a 74. Eish. Uh. Enhanced edition got an 86, which I think is important for this. Yeah, as things came around. Yeah.

You know, then... What did the Outer Worlds get? Different type of game, but my gutt- Very well-reserved. Same feeling about it, where I'm just like, whatever. That game did very well. I wouldn't be surprised if that's like an 87. Two words, and there's an S at the end of Outer Worlds.

It's all right. There to 82. No, 86 for the console version. Look at that. Yeah, it was very well reviewed. 86. There you go. I say 83.

It was another one that looked cool. I think it's better than the first one, and it's got cool shit going on, but I just don't know if it's got enough personality to really make it. I saw a behind closed doors demo of it two E3s ago, and I thought it had a lot of personality in a way that I think might be to its detriment. I think it's a little too ambitious that I don't think it's going to cross that 90 line of hitting

every single thing great. There's too many things of like, oh, if you choose to do this way, you don't even see all that stuff. Yeah, like if you flood the village and all this stuff happens. And I think that that is going to be cool, but I think it's going to keep it in that mid-80s range. You know what it reminds me a bit of

that the latest Metro. Yeah. Metro Exodus. Yeah. Metro Exodus was the first game that I was going to ask him to bring up and I was going to copy the score up. Was it 2033? Wait. It was Exodus. Metro Exodus. Yeah. Okay.

Every commenter. Well, he questioned it. I did. I believed it. Okay. But that review. Yeah, you're right. 80 and 82.

It's funny. That's where I was out with it. I'm going to go with 83. I'm also going to go to 83. Did you? Oh, we're all on the same page now. What's up? I was already going to guess 83.

We're all getting some points. All right. We're already at this point. Since Avengers, we don't know the release dates for these games. So, dying light, we don't have a release date. The rest of them, we don't have a release date. Pat upon two. Ghost?

Up sushi. Oh, man. Goes to sushi. God, I know so little. These are so hard, man. We don't know nearly enough. They showed a glimpse. Spoilers.

Haloimpin is coming up, too. Yeah. They showed a glimpse of the gameplay at the Game Wars, and that's all we've seen, right? Yeah. Nobody's seen anything else? Well, no, we saw behind closed doors at E3. Oh, you did.

Oh, you did. We have seen gameplay. They showed you at E3 on stage, the presentation they showed the actual gameplay. And then it was in a different... Did they show the... They did. They did, but it was like, it wasn't combat.

No, there was Conradbat. Really? The very first reveal. Not the very first reveal. Not the first reveal. Because that was LA. The E3 reveal, I think after that. The very first reveal was at like Tokyo Game Show or something.

And then at E3, there was a guy that was playing a... It was like after the last was church thing that everybody got mad at because they had to go into the other room. And then the guy was playing the flute. And so somebody was on screen playing, goes to Tsushima. Yeah. And it looked pretty cool. That really happened. That didn't really happen.

That didn't really happen. As I was saying it, I was like, was this really E3? Yeah. What I want to toss out, Metacritics for the Infamous series. Infamous 1,85. Of course, talking about Succarbunch. Infamous 85, Infamous 2, 83. Infamous Second Sun, 80.

Infamous First Light, 7-Light, which is a criminal. Yeah, first light is better than the second Sun. 100%. Yeah. Type in Rocket. Robot on wheels, baby. Did we talk about this on show yet? Yeah, we did.

We did. We did. We did. Showing up. I freaking love Rocket robot on wheels. Oh, wait. Rocket, colon. N-64.

Robot on wheels. You could just do. it's probably not on medic critic then oh that's a shame yeah because this was 99 maybe 99

I wonder if you type robot N64 anyway they do they do anything between that and infamous Sly Cooper come on

oh yeah yeah yeah I was getting there that's all the I was getting there right I was like why you go all the way back

to you know I was if I point at a fucking PC tower like oh looks like a 1545 80 right you know what I mean it was because

I was What did Superbush Workin No I was staring And the search is all. I wanted you to find a robot. And I don't know if Sly Cooper, honestly, I'm not even bringing in the conversation because I don't think that has as much resonance here.

I think. Just going to make it easy for everybody. Guess what I'm going to pick? $7.9. 88. Oh, 88. Favorite. I think that, again, it's hitting in, man, just the style and, like we went through.

Like, we went through, like, Sekaro, Neo. I don't know the exacts of the gameplay yet, you know, but people are, they're loving those types of games right now. So I feel like it hits on something that's very popular right now, is why I'm saying it. What did Horizon Zero Don get? Oh, yeah. Now we're asking the questions.

Because I think that's going to be. There you go. That's a perfect. 89. 89? No. Did it? There you go.

I'm giving it an 89 as well. That's where I was starting to tiptoe around. What are you thinking, Bliss? I don't think it'll resonate as much as her. Horizon Zero Don did. But I think it'll be a great first party exclusive. So I'm going to go 86.

What makes you say that? That won't resonate like Horizon Zero Don? Yeah, like why? Racism. When they're both. I think comparisons. I think that Ghost Sushima has more easy comparisons than Horizon did when it comes to like

we think Ghost, we think Sekiro. And that's just because of setting. That's just because of... See, I don't even know. Because for me I think what I... I just don't know. I just don't know. if Sucker Punch Like, hmm Actually, I don't know Because it was a Killzone studio that did Horizon

And that was a shot And that's my point That's why I think it's gonna be similar I do think that Horizon Seemingly, you know, again, based on just assuming in the style of Guiden games or Sekiro or whatever That there was something about Horizon

That was almost more accessible Like it had, it wasn't Zelda It was his action, you know, RPG Yeah, open world, far cryish With like some Witcher elements in their Beautiful World Great. Great story that resonated with people.

Cool style. I mean, that's the thing, too. Like, Gosa's Sushima is something stylistically is familiar to us. Like, we know what a Samurai game looks like. Yeah, but I feel like that can be, it can be Sammy. People are like, oh, yeah, Neo, Sekra. I didn't play them. Like, not for me.

Yeah. That happens. It's funny. I'm just trying to mix you up. Yeah, no. What did I say? I'm sick of that. We're at, I'm at 89, Grace at 89.

Bless the 86. and Friday 88. Yeah, I'm sticking with what I got. Halo Infinite. Oh, I don't know what a little. Close. I can't do it now. What did Halo 5 yet?

I'm out of critic? Suck it. I'm on it. Suck it. Okay. What about Halo 5? Halo 4 got an 87. I know it's a difference.

What about God of War again? Oh, sorry. There you said. My bad. Can you give me God of War again? It was 84? 94? Yeah, it was 94.

That's right. yeah 94 you're out your fucking no no no no no no I think that Halo Infinite is going to attempt to be God of War it's not going to hit that but I think that

Plus it's got multiplayer I think this is going to have more similarities to an attempt at God of War than a Halo 5 sure but people aren't going to judge Halo on single player I feel like if you're reviewing a Halo I think they will I think it's both

I think if you nail the same single player, the multiplayer, like, they're going to have unlock. I think the campaign is going to be the thing that gets the reviews high. I don't know. I feel like for Halo specifically, if you nail the single player and have an incredible campaign, but the multiplayer isn't up to snuff with what Halo fans come to expect, you're still going to suffer. I agree with you.

I think the multiplayer is going to be there, though. Okay. I think it has to be. I think that by default, it has to be. This one is one of the ones that I think has the biggest split between. I mean, it could totally be a low eight, or it could be God of War. My thing about it is this is- God of War, because God of War has so much going for.

I do not think it can be a low-eight. I think that Xbox and Phil and the entire team over there know what they need to do with this next generation, and that's deliver fucking kick-ass exclusives and revitalize things. I don't think it'll be a God of War revitalization, because that footage they showed to that guy finding Master Chief in Space, right? Just looked like Halo. No, it doesn't, though. It doesn't.

To me, Greg Miller, a casual person played a lot of, I know, but like, but I think that to a lot of people that didn't give a shit about God of War, that saw the first, like, initial trailer of the God of War of PS4, they weren't, they didn't know that much different anyways. Like, I think that it's, it's not until Halo, and I know that that's a little bit different, but it's like, I think that if Halo Infinite were to come out and everyone was like, it's a fucking 10, that I think that it would just, you'd be like, well, shit, I'm in. I have to be. in the same way that I think God of War converted people. I don't know if it can convert people in the same way. I think God of War, enough people, I feel like everybody already knew going in what God of War was. You know, not everybody was a fan of God of War,

but at the very base, you know, that God of War is just like not top down, but the camera is kind of pulled back, and it's a hack and slash game, where you just go around and murder things and Cretus is yelling and doing all that stuff. And so when you got that first reveal of God of War, God of War 2018, I think that hit a lot of people different. because it seemed like way more of a tamed game. And when you start seeing the gameplay, it looks more like a Tomb Raider type game,

which I think most people understood to be a departure from what we got, whereas Halo, looking at the Halo trailer, I'm like, okay, cool, is this a Halo cutscene? This looks really cool, but it didn't really strike me as a next step for Halo because I really couldn't tell you what Halo is, aside from a first-person shooter, like a very popular first-person shooter. Yeah, we haven't seen gameplay, so it's...

That's true. Yeah. It's so, like, what I was thinking about is, could you guys now, if you went back to the months after the initial God of War E3 reveal, when we were like, oh, huh, like, wow, that was like game of the show. But where would we have guessed then for Metacritic? Like, would you guess 94? No way. No. The conversation then was like, oh, man, it's, all Sony games look like Last of Us.

They're all trying the same thing. What would you guess then? What would I guess for God of War? What would I guess for God of War? I mean, I don't know. Without. Yeah, probably a. High 80s.

Yeah. Eighty-seven to 88. And I feel like that's what we're, my point I wanted to illustrate here, just to finish it, was it is so challenging without seeing any Halo gameplay. Any, like, deep look at, like, what are they doing with this? My only personal reference point for this right now is God of, sorry, gears five. And, like, whatever. Sea of thieves and some other stuff they've been doing internally. And so I'm like, obviously, Halo, you know.

five, but that's like, that was such an esports focus initially. Not that it didn't, the campaign was important, but you know what I mean? You're bringing up gears, man. It's like really making me feel the way that I am more. How could it not be more?

I think it could be gears five. This is not going to be gears five. For better or worse, it's not going to be gears five. It's not just going to be more Halo. It's not just going to be more gears. It is going to be an attempt at a god of warification of Halo.

And I don't know that that's going to hit. It won't hit in the same way God awarded. I'm agreeing with you. When you say God of War of Occasion, right, are you talking about just bringing in a new audience? Or what is, what are you saying? I think it's a reboot of the game. And the story can continue, it doesn't matter.

But like, when it comes from just the game, you could play this one and be like, damn, this is one of the best games of all time. This game is doing things in a modern way that are of consequence. I'm going to say 89. That's where I'm at. 87. Yeah, my point I was trying to make though, Tim,

was that, like, that was the Gears treatment. This is their premier, like you're saying. Not that Gears isn't important. It's super important. And Rod, and the whole team up there, coalition is incredible. Gears is awesome. It's funny.

I still got to finish it, but I knew it was one of your top five for the year, right? Not everybody felt that way, whatever. Dude, yeah, I would rate it higher than the Metacritic, which was, what, 84, something in there? Gears 5, 84. But, yeah, I feel like with him. I mean, this is the launch of an X-Gen vision as well.

And so, you know, similarly to like what Nintendo tried to do with Breath of the Wild, that's, yeah, I believe that's what they're trying to do. I'm not saying it's going to get 987, but that's their focus. Like you're saying, this is it. They spent so much money on the Xbox Vision and 343 in working together. So anyway, I do think that they wouldn't let it out the door and all that if it wasn't ready. I know they had some shake-ups. So, of course, I'm ending up around in 88 for this one.

But, yeah, without knowing anything, it goes back to my right point. I feel like I'm stuck saying, yeah, I think 87. And I, I don't know. I hope, I don't know, is there going to be a way to change this if we see some gameplay? No. That sucks. It's pretty interesting. Like, reigning a game based on no gameplay is balls.

And that's why this one is so this or that. What am I supposed to do? We're not seeing the gameplay is either by design or they're just fucked. Yeah. It's for the Xbox reveal stage. Yeah, like they don't have that pop. Because, dude, Halo 2, man. But you would agree it sucks for the purpose of this.

Absolutely. But that's my thing is like, Halo 2 when it had its E3 gameplay demo, that is undeniably one of the top three most holy shit E3 moments of all time of, you just sold everyone in this game. Everybody that has any interest in video games needs to play this goddamn game, needs to buy an Xbox for this. And Breath of the Wild probably would have been similar. But it's like, oh, you know, there's going to be a Zelda on Switch.

You don't know anything about it. What are you going to rate it, Tim? What do you think it's going to get? You might be like, I don't know, 87, 88. Sucks that. How can I guess higher without seeing anything? They have so much to prove. This is the first time they're launching a console with Halo since the original Xbox.

And I feel like they know that. I don't know that they're going to hit it. I don't necessarily believe they're going to hit it. So with all of that, I'm probably going to go 88. Look at you. Oh, wow, so you went lower than I did. What did you do to 89? 819.

Yeah. What was Greg's? 86? We've been going so long. 87. Once I say it, I'm done. It's out of the chamber. I'm swung away.

Double back now to what I gave any of them. I'm like, I don't know what I can remember? Yeah, I think the thing that might hold it back a little bit from like even like recently if the campaign is incredible, which I think it can be incredible.

The thing that I'll hold it back is probably the multiplayer. I feel like the Halo fan base is hard to, not necessarily hard to please, but when they're so, many great shooters out there right now, you know, it's going to be kind of hard to put out something that feels special and feels innovative and mind-blowing, you know, if you're putting out

a multiplayer game. I know we're going along on this bit, but I just want to say when it comes to Halo, 3-4-3 hasn't proven much, you know, in the last generation. But recently, with Master Chief Collection of how much they brought it back, they learned how to do the multiplayer stuff. Like, where they're at now, I'm like, they're taking all of this into infinite. I'm not worried about the multiplayer side. Really? I feel the campaign side needs to just come out and be a freaking banger that everyone's like, it doesn't matter what system I have allegiance to, everyone's talking about this game, and if I don't play it, I'm missing out on the game of your conversation.

But I also have very high hopes for that. No More Heroes 3. Oh, man, I'm looking forward to this one. What did No More Heroes 1 and 2 get? Coming up right now. Greg's on top of it. Now No More Heroes 2 came out in 2011 or 2010, I want to say? No more Heroes 2008, 2008.

The first one, yeah. 83. No more Heroes 2, 2010, 84. No More Heroes Paradise, 2011, 72. Travis strikes again, No More Heroes' 67. Yeah. So, Heroes Paradise was the PS3 version. It came out and it was not good. And so that makes, that's the reason why I got like a, when you say 70 something, 73. 73. 73, 72. 72. And then Travis Strikes again was the one game collection thing, right? Yeah, it is like the one that came out last January on Switch. And it was, yeah, the mini game collection. top-down combat, all the stuff, wasn't that great. But the trailer for the new No More Heroes, man, the one they showed off at Game Awards,

they're setting it up to be something special, story-wise at least. Like, I can't really speak to gameplay at all because they haven't shown any gameplay, but the story of No More Heroes 3 looks really cool, looks really interesting. It's kind of like a reverse Avengers kind of thing where aliens are coming down to Earth

to essentially conquer it and become their heroes. And so they're actually taking the hero's name and doing something of that in the game. But the thing is suit of 51. His games are cool, stylish, and they speak to his audience in a way that broadly don't necessarily hit the same way

because there are usually things that you can pick apart, right? Like, there's usually like, like the gameplay doesn't always feel innovative or groundbreaking. Usually he just, usually he makes a good hack and slash gameplay, right? Which is great, which is what people want.

The thing that makes the more hero shine is the personality and is the characters and is the story and all that stuff and the soundtrack and all that stuff. So I'm going 86. Mystic. 74. Really? I'm going to stick at 83. I think. Yeah. 81.

They're going to satisfy the fans. There we go. Psychonauts 2. Oh, man. It's a tough one. Beloved original franchise. Cult classic. 81.

I've seen an action. It looks like Psychonauts in the Modern Era. How far that'll take it? I don't know. 76. Okay. 80. For the record.

Psychonauts 87 on PC, 2005. Psychonauts 86 on PS2, 2005. It was a VR game, right? Yeah, Psychonauts, Rombus of Ruin, 71, 2017. team. But again, that's... Here's this weird PSVR game we made. That's the bridge between Psychonauts and Psychonauts to a game that came out forever ago and a game

that'll come out forever from now, so... I'm gonna go 84. I think it'll still get a lot of, you know, sentiment. All right. Does that exist anymore, though? Yes, it does. No, because there's like... For you and me, old people.

James Wolves are like, yeah. He married somebody who's stupid and likes the Muppets, so there you know. She does like the Muppets. The last two we can do together because I think it'll be fun here. Watch Dogs, Legion,

and Assassin's Creed. Kingdoms, Ragnarok. Insert, subtitle here. Oh, yeah, what happened to gods and monsters? I didn't put it here. So, watch dogs. It's a hard one.

Watchdogs 2014, highest would have been in 80 on PS4. Wash Dogs 2, 2016, highest 82. This one's pretty ambitious. What about them, Assassin's Creed? Can I, Can I predict that Assassin's Creed doesn't come out this year and get a point for that?

No, because I'm kind of with you. Yeah, we have to assume it does. Yeah. You're going to get an extra point for guess since something doesn't come out. Because like Watch Dogs getting delayed. Oh, my God. Assassin's Crew. Hold on.

Hold on. Watch Dogs getting delayed into late year, I feel like delays Assassin's Creed. That would have been out late this year. And so I think that delays Assassin's Creed into either a year. 2020 or 2021 or spring 2021. Did Washtogs get delayed? Yeah, it was coming out in February or March. Both gods and monsters

and watchdogs are supposed to come out. You're right. Yeah, they got pushed. And then like pretty much all the Ubisoft games. Got to later in 2020, I think. I don't know what they said. Yeah. Assassin's Creed Odyssey, 83. Fuck you and everybody else who reviewed it that low. Assassin's Creed origins, a smattering of different kinds of origins. 84 looks like, 85, actually, Xbox 1.

You're fucking crazy. What are some of the highest scores on Odyssey? Yeah, like, what the heck? Because Assassin's Creed has suffered from, I would say, and maybe rightly so, but it was like King of the Eighths. Like for so long, you're like, man, this game is so cool, but it's just kind of missing a few things. But, man, it's so cool.

But Odyssey nailed it in a lot of ways. What were some of the highest scores? Games Radar gave it 100. PlayStation Lifestyle skipped off the page because of ads, which is always fun. Oh, my goodness. Lost forever. 92 from IGN. People with paste.

Easy allies 90 people with taste Yeah it definitely got US gamer 90 twinfinite 90 Okay But yeah I mean we don't really know anything about the next one at all right It hasn't even been There's the rumors right There's a lot of rumors

There are a lot of rumors Ragnock it's multiplayer 4 player Yeah that's right drop in drop out All that stuff seemed like it got Yeah people were saying like these aren't real rumors so you don't really know what to believe Yeah of course

Yeah, like... Assumptions about Assassin's Creed. Make an ass out of you and me. That's a creed. Out of you, me, and use Gimel. I'm Gimov. Um, watchdogs, though. Let's start with the watchdogs.

Yeah, let's come back. Watch Dogs, we're in, right? That, the whole, I forget what the system is called, but the, you can take over anybody and play, you know, there's not really a main character. You're just, like, assembling an army of citizens. I played an E3. I think Greg did, too. That system is really cool, and I think might take that game a far. Yeah.

I should think it might put it a little over the edge of the previous ones. If it pans out, they clearly need more time with it, though. The problem with it is I still think it's just hard to do a game without a protagonist where everyone's the protagonist

because when everyone's the protagonist, no one's the protagonist. I mean, Washdog's one didn't have a protagonist. I'm going to be boring. Yeah, I was going to go 85. I want to say 83 as well.

I'm going to say 84. Okay. Bump Bump Bum. The final one. Assassin's Creed, the next one. Ragnarok. No, we know nothing about it, or if it's actually called Ragnarok.

Yeah, I was about it. I mean, I think it's delayed, but I'm going to also say... 85. Well, yeah, 85. Because this was the off year, and this is going to be their second one of these from this specific Ubisoft studio.

They finally have their time in the sun. I mean, Ubisoft's been killing it overall. This might be Origins 2, basically. Fucking Odyssey was better than everybody knows. Yeah, so it's not Odyssey. too. I'm going to go on the high end of this one. I'm going to believe that they finally have just done just an awesome job. They did. Odyssey is fantastic. It is, but again, it got an 83 metacritic. That's what we're looking

at. Yeah. So, I mean, I think they'll turn the tide a little bit on the lower end. And I was going to say it'll get an 87. Wow. Yeah. Believe that this one finally, especially if it has these rumored multiplayer components. The rumor multiplayer components aren't cool. Yeah. If it was drop in, drop out, run around, some kind of They could also be not cool, though. Totally. Totally fucking up. So.

No gameplay. No name. No information. See, this is one where it's going into next gen. This is going to be on next gen as well. So it's going to be like a black flag situation, but modernized a bit more.

What did Black Flag get? I don't think Black Flag's the best example, though. Why not? I feel like it was still one of the ones. It was rushed. Like, all their assassins were rushed for so long, right? But I feel like Black Flag was the one that. Black Flag was the one that.

Black Flag was the one that. Black Flag's in 83 on PS4. Yeah. What wasn't a year on year? I know, right? Yeah. I'm going 83. In other words.

In other words, I'm going 83. I'm going 83 as well. But Tim, the dates all suffer from year on year, didn't they? Weren't they, like every year? Assassin did burn out at that point, yeah. Yeah, but finally we're in every two years, maybe. Like we didn't get one at the end of last year and now seemingly we will get one at the end of the season. I think it was three people just liked, I think Black Flagg was after three.

And like, people, people, actually, people, really like black flag from what I remember but I'm not saying it's not good again I feel like they're all like then like then it was missing a little bit of that time they needed what came out after that I think it was unity people weren't feeling syndicate people weren't feeling really not feel yeah and then the break and then origins came out and people were like oh yeah and then Oz came out and Greg was like oh yeah hell yeah I just think that the it being for two different generations of consoles even though I think that means less than ever before I do think it's gonna take it down from being an 87

I think it's going to be the best version even is going to be lesser than what it could have been which is. 83. All of 383 except you. Oh, okay.

I'm the high end. Awesome. So that's it, man. Those are our predictions for 2020. Very excited to look back at this in the end of the year and see where we all fall out.

Remember, the rules are we have to guess the exact number and you get a point for that. We'll do the final tally then. Okay. Now it's time for the post show. We'll hang out with the chat for a little bit. Got the post show party.

So what's going on there. So what's the long day. We don't win anything. We're not actually winning these $4.00 in Oreos. No. The Oreos are just up for grabs. They're not part of the pet. Is that peanut butter? No, it's, so these are carrot cake. And then those are coconut. Yeah. It's not really good post. I love you guys. Bye.