Kinda Funny Gamescast: Video Game Podcast - Building Our Perfect Open World Game - Kinda Funny Gamescast

Episode Date: July 11, 2024

Blessing, Andy, and Roger go head to head to try and create the BEST open world game by taking elements from other games. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Yo, what's up? Welcome to Kind of Funny Gamescast for Thursday, July 11th, 2020. I'm your host, Blessing. Addio A.J. Jr., I'm joined by The Lock, Roger McCornie. What up? And we got the Nitro Rifle, Andy Cortez. Hey, Gamerys. And we got a very exciting episode for you.

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Right now is Gamescast, and after this, it's going to be the stream. And that stream is Nick. Gonna be some bullshit. Going to be some bullshit. Playing like a, what is he playing, like a dinosaur game? Fossil.

Nick being Nick. What's it called? Fossil fuel. Yeah. I love sort of on my little like Microsoft server seeing the Steam notification. Nick Serpino just started playing fossil fuel. That's like hell yeah. Nick's getting ready.

He's getting ready. He's getting ready. If my brain was on 100% today, there's a good joke there with fossil fuel and Nick. I can't put the pieces together. It's right there. But it's right there. He's playing his cousin. No, that doesn't work.

If you're a kind of funny member, you can get today's Gregway, of course, which is what, Roger? I don't know. He doesn't know. I'll figure it out. I'll figure it out. Are you doing the today's Gregway? doing it today. Yeah, I got to figure out what I'm talking about.

Maybe it's like depression. Maybe it's just about, oh, I like your Bermate, silly, silly, Raj Raj. You know what I mean? I mean, you, we sit down. We talk about this life. Okay. Talk about that hot D, man.

What? How's the dragon. Yeah, her hot D's popping off. The last episode's popping out. Hot D is sick as hell, man. I'm so glad I caught up. Because I was like, I'm probably never going to catch up. Too many video games.

The boys, a little bit underwhelming. But based on all the hate, I'm still enjoying the boys. I'm like, oh, I thought. was going to be a complete tire fire and it's still good in a lot of ways, not great in a lot of other ways, definitely the worst season I would say.

But I'm still having fun with the boys, but Hot D is popping off. You know I've been hearing the streets talk about the Acolyte. Maybe you want to start watching it. I watched the first three episodes. I got to sound like it in the beard after saying that. He was just in the studio a little while ago. Yeah, yeah. He's just in the control room. It's good. Yusuf and I are going

back and forth on this week's episode. because I have thoughts. And I wasn't, I wasn't, I didn't love it. All right. Well, you're gonna have with the acolyte. I'm also in this weird place where like, you know, like the audience, I listen to podcasts. Oh. And one of the podcasts I listen to are like they do these like recaps and reviews, just like we do.

And one of their podcasts every week, they'll do a The Boys and Acolyte episode. So I always, like, if you look in my podcast playlist right now, I have a bunch of half listen to episodes. Because I listen to the boys portion. And then I'm like, okay, well, they're going to start talking about acolyte, so I'm out of here. Yeah. But it's like, I like, I like, I like the dynamic. So I'm like, do I listen or do I watch the acolyte just so I can listen to the rest of these podcasts? I think I'm only three episodes in, but I'm like, I think there's something there.

There's something there. It's not like, it's not hot fire. Same podcast also does hot D. And I'm like in the hot D episodes. I don't like that we're calling a hot D episode. The hot D episode. The world is called a hot. We've been calling it.

I know. I just don't listen. I just don't listen about it. And that thing is, like, they're hot D episodes, full standalone episodes, which means that's an hour of content I'm missing out on every single week for my favorite podcast. Then you also have to watch another hour of content, right? So that's, too. I mean, that's good.

I, you're, don't underestimate how far I will go to listen to a podcast I like. Because I watch so many seasons of the Walking Dead because the podcast I liked was doing weekly Walking Dead. Were you watching Fear Walking the Dead? Were we watching Live, Love, Love, Walking Dead? No, I was not going that far. No. Thankfully, they didn't make, if they made, Ernest joins the Walking Dead, like anything like that.

Rick and Michone is out there doing their own thing. Wicke and being in love. Every single time I see a screenshot of Rick and Mishone, it doesn't look like the post-pocalypse. It looks like they're too beautiful. They're so in love. It looks like just a romantic comedy. There's two people in the wilderness fucking.

I'm like, man, this Rick and Mishone show does not seem like it has zombies in it. Beautiful. I'm sure if I watched it, I'm going to see the zombies. Remember they were supposed to be a trilogy of movies? There were a lot of plans for the walking movie. There's a lot. There were a lot of plans.

They had plans. They over-extended and they're like Ah, snap, we messed up. Yeah, we can't do a trilogy movie Here's a mini-series. This was one episode where Rick just walked off.

Well, he didn't walk off. He's like, spoilers. Like, maybe died. Obviously didn't die. You need like he picked up a helicopter or some shit? I think he did just go in a helicopter.

No, didn't Darrell go to France? Oh. I think they made like... They did a French season? It was like Emily and Paris, but it was Darrell in Paris. That's sick.

Yeah, I digress. I'm sure I butchered most of that. Of course, thank you to our Patreon producers. Seems all accurate to me. Carl Jacobs and Delaney 20. I think somebody went to France. He was placed into a helicopter. That is different to everybody.

He did not go into a helicopter willingly. Against his consent. Oh, people in chat are saying Darrell ended up in France somehow. Placed. Could you imagine? You're just in France and fucking Darrell Dixon. They didn't get affected by the zombies.

It's just regular normal. We're like, we've just been focused on America. It's like that one Japanese man who had no idea of World War II was over. who was just in the forest. He was fighting for him for him for years. Dixon walks up all dusty and you're eating the baguette

and you're like, who is this guy? He has a crossbow. You're like, what is going on? Yeah, thank you to our Patreon producers, Carl Jacobs, Delaney Twining. Today we're about to you by Shady Rays and A Better Paradise, but we'll tell you about that later for now.

Let's start with topic of the show. Todds, God, Sats, Tats. Greg Miller is away. Tim Getties is away. Which means that we get to have fun here. The boys will finally. games cast. Finally.

Finally. Finally. Finally. I want to build our perfect open world game. The reason being, of course,

Eldon Ring, Shadow of the Earth tree came out not that long ago and again, came through redefined open world excellence.

Reaffirmed open world excellence. The Elder Ring was the game that kind of redefined it, right? But like, you know,

coming off of the hype of that game and then looking forward to this fall where some of the biggest games are going to be

Star Wars Outlaws, Assassin's Creed Shadows. We're also coming off of games like like Rise of the Ronan, right? There have been a lot of come out this year. And I feel like now is a good time. Just talk about open world games in general

and have a fun activity here. Now, this is an activity that I'm straight up stealing from IGN UK. I did call them up though. And I was like, yeah, was a good. Did you actually call them up? International plans. That's expensive. I DMed Simon Cardi on Twitter. Yeah. And I was like, hey, can we steal this idea that you guys did a few years ago? And they're like, yeah, go for it. So basically, what the idea is for making our own perfect open world game is that we have not different categories. And we're going, each of us are going to go. We're going to do a little draft situation, a snake draft situation.

We're going to pick. Run, Rob. We're going to a straw pool. Oh my God, Chad. You missed one. You missed one. I was like, are we going to take turns or like, who's going to go first? And Blessing said, I'll do a straw pole.

And I was like, okay, well, that's, I don't think that's what I was asking for. And he said, wait, is it pool or pole? And I was like, well. So I'm typing it into the Google. It's straw. poll like P-O-L because you're polling people. And he was like, no, but like, don't you, don't you pull straws or draw straws? I was like, okay, two different things.

What I need the listeners to understand is that yesterday during our weekly meeting. Yeah. There comes a point. This is a great. I'm glad you're getting his ass. Okay. All right. Andy's, we're talking, we're making a plan for like our tailgate thing for a college football next week.

Yeah. And Andy's, and like, you know, Greg's planning on making burgers or whatever. and Andy turns to Greg, it's like, oh, Greg, can you do this thing? What do they call, like, the things that we couldn't happen about cream cheese in? And, like, people look at Andy where, like, a bagel? That's the word. Yeah, that's the word. That's the word.

Can you make your bagel burgers? Bagels aren't in my everyday vernacular. Why? They're not something I'm consuming all the time. And if it's not, it's out of sight, out of mind with my brain, Roger. I forgot. I brought pistachios from back home because I put them in a weird spot yesterday. But that's different than the word bagel.

No, but I know. Like that's a location in your bag. I forget all words, dude. I forget words. I forget people. You know, it happens all the damn time where I'm like, I could picture this celebrity who I just saw a movie with. Why can't I remember their very popular name?

Oh, Brad Pitt. Like, that happens to me, man. Oh, I have the same thing for sure. When you're thinking about what you're asking, Greg, right? You saw a bagel in your mind. Oh, 100%. I knew what it was. And you literally could not connect bagel.

Couldn't think of the word. Yeah, I couldn't connect the word. It's like word blindness, face blindness. That's why all the time, me and Kevin are the worst here at the studio when it's like, what's that goddamn word that I can see and I'm trying to think of the thing? And I just can't do it. I can't do it. My thing with bagels is that I don't have bagels that often either.

But bagel, for me, that's just, it occupies the same space as like bread. Yeah. Or like any, like, donut. Like, I don't know. It's a very common noun. It is just so common. It's a weird thing, though, where on any given day, I would have. remember the word bagel. It just happened in that moment that I didn't remember the word bagel.

And that's why I always feel bad whenever it happened with me at Summer Games Fest. The person that we've worked with before, that I know their name. And I was a little bit drunk. And I was like, give me your name one more time. And they were kind of offended. And I was like, I get that you're offended. But I don't remember anything. Listen, Jeff Keely. Yeah. I'm so sorry, Jeff. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Listen here, Johnny.

my bad tomorrow I know like I know I'm destined for like early onset dementia that's just how I'm gonna be you know Yeah It's not a great it's not a great life I don't recommend it I don't I get

I feel that I have the same thing a lot of times And it's so bad to be as a podcaster And I understand why everybody in the comments are like And it's a terrible podcast I'm like that's one of the big factors I don't remember things I've gotten better at it over the years But year one that was like one of my big like

struggles is for whatever reason I could remember many words And I think that was mainly out of nervousness of like when I was still nervous on content. For some reason, that fucks up my, like, recall where I just can't remember the words for anything. Like, there'll be very common games, like a very popular game where I'm like,

oh, yeah, I can't remember the words for twisted metal for some reason. Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, I feel like that's where I'm at now still. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I'd just be talking and I'm just like, what's that word? And I'm like, Tim has to finish it for me.

Because, like, I think it's a nervousness. Also, I think I'm just dumb. You know what I mean? I need to expand my brain. I mean, maybe we play brain games or brain age on DS. Oh, that'd be a good. good one. Because I was like this, I need something to exercise the old noggin.

Yeah, but New York Times games were playing every morning. You can join this. Dude, yeah, the New York Times games, I feel like are helping me. Yeah, we're doing, like, a mini crossword puzzle, we're doing wordel, we're doing connections. Jen started adding Sudoku. That's crazy. That's crazy. I'm going to climb out of his asses and Sudoku.

That's where you stab yourself in the stomach and get the extra bleed power. Yeah, yeah. The extra bleed power. Only play soul. games. That's insane. Sapuku, by the way.

I made that joke on stream yesterday already, so sorry for the rerun. All right, back to the rules. Hey. Right. Again, so we have nine categories that we're pulling from to create each of our own perfect open world games. And then we're going to put it to the audience to vote on who has the best open world game.

The nine categories are location. Main story. And shout out Barrett. Barrett's brought up the IGN, UK, what theirs looks like. But yeah, location. We've been in tots. location, main story, side missions, characters slash NPCs, combat, traversal, music, special sauce, and mini game. Yes.

All right, so we're picking one game for each that we're going to inspire our own game off of. What's up? And those games need to be open world. Those games need to be open world, right? So we can only pick from other open world games with one wild card pick. All right. So out of all these picks, we can pick one non-open world game. I love that.

era game. Another one that I'm adding here for a rule. Each game can only be picked once by a player. Oh, BS. So like if one of us that's good picks out Assassin's Creed 1 for example, for the rest of the thing, none of us can pick Assassin's Creed 1 again, except for mini game. Mini game is the one where I'll just give the exception of you can pick whatever game you want for whatever open world game you want for mini game, unless is your wild card. But I could pick Assassin's Creed 2. You can't, yes, you can pick multiple games from the same franchise. So if I pick Assassin's Creed 1 for combat, you can pick Assassin's Creed 2 for Traversal.

You know, Roger can pick Assassin's Creed 3 for music, et cetera, et cetera. I would never do that. I don't know one tune. Did they have the Yankee doodle? They had the national anthem. We can read Roger and share the same brain. It's a decaying brain, you and I.

We share it, though. We share it, though. Oh, man. All right. We're all good. We're all clear. Yeah. We're all clear.

We should have a conversation really quick. Andy and I started talking about this, but I think it's good for the podcast. Open zone, open world. What do we feel about this? I mean, define open zone. I would say, I mean, are we calling a Mario Odyssey? That's not an open world game.

There's definitely, there are definitely some games that require you know, teleporting or fast traveling to another space that then opens up a gigantic area that has a lot of exploration and vast vistas and all the sort of shit. But then if you want to get back to that other place, you could fast travel back and it's not accessible from the same spot.

But I think that's fine, because I feel like that's like certain parts of Eldon Ring where it's like, you teleport to a thing that you can only go to here. I would say like, in my mind, there's a lot of big zones in a game like, it's just on the top of my head right now because again,

out of side out of mind and we just spoke about it. Stellar Blade. Oh, that's a good... Like running around that gigantic ass. Fuck, that's a really good example. desert area, you know. I don't look at that as an open world game. Neither do I, but like, I say that's like...

That has open zones. Those don't feel like just a little small, linear level. It feels like there are gigantic, big, explorative moments, you know. That's when I kind of feel about a Mario Odyssey. I mean, like, if a Jedi Survivor is an open world game that does have the same kind of breakdown, right? You're going on different planets. That's a great call.

Like, I feel like it is... But is that an open world game? Jedi Survivor? I mean, look how gigantic those worlds are. that you're exploring. I don't think that that's close to what an Odyssey is. Odyssey, those individual zones,

quote unquote, are not nearly as big and don't have the same structure of exploration as a Jedi Survivor. I would... Like, Jedi Survivor, I wouldn't say as an open world game. Yeah. But then I think about, like,

the open zone content, but how gigantic those spaces are that you're exploring. It's like, these places are huge. Yeah. I mean, God of War has, like, I'll call that open zone, right? Like, that has big,

explorable spaces. but like, I don't know, I think when we think of open world, it's the same way we talk about porn, right? What? You know it when you see. It's hard to define, but you know it when you see it. Some blurry lines, though, sometimes. Yeah, but like, you know what open world game when you see it? I've been watching a lot of making the style in videos.

I'm going to go. No, it's not. In a good way. You know what? A prude way. I mean, I'm excited, but yeah. He's a star. Yeah, I'm trying to think of good.

I mean, what, Assassin's Creed? Games where it is, you turn around 360, you can go any direction you want. one, right? You can tackle things in not, so many games. Yeah, but like, the entire world, the entire map in that way. That makes sense. I agree with, I'm sure we, I know you can pull holes in that. But I feel like there's a general

sense of, you know, an overworld. Sure, sure. I hear you said. I think in my mind, I literally did not really think, like, I associated Survivor for some reason as an open world game, even though when I think about my, I guess it isn't. I experienced that game and I was like, I would have described that, oh, it's like an open world, like,

because there's multiple different spaces, but yeah, it's an open world. has like open world-ish planets to it but I feel like a lot of those plans are also like linear aren't they? Like more almost like... Survivor, no. Fallen order, yes. Fallen order is way linear. Fallen order is very you know, you're going down these

differently decorated corridors that aren't corridors, but it's like, you're outdoors, but it's still a corridor because you're going down this path and down to Metroidvania style sort of vibe. What I would say is if somebody brings up a game and any of us are like, oh, that's not open road, we do like a I love it. I love it. Sure. Yeah. Unique technique brings up open mini worlds.

And I feel like that's the way I would describe most of these games that we're talking about. Of like they're just smaller open worlds. Like Simpsons hit and run. I don't know. I've never had to play the game. It's like level based, but usually the levels are pretty much like small open worlds. But then like we get into the weird thing of like his ban jikazui and open worlds. Are these open worlds or is this don'tcon 64? Yeah.

Then we get in a really weird place. But I guess when the issue pops up, we'll address it. When the issue pops up, let's address it and dispute it and we can go from there. I'm gonna need some help with one of these, then. We're gonna start off with a straw pole. To keep it fair, Roger, you see this wheel that I've constructed. I see the code that says blessing goes first right there, you know? No, it does not, it is not.

I made it, I'll turn it to the cameras to the audience, can see me being fair. I don't have any weird tabs open, right? I've created a wheel spin. I'm gonna click the wheels. I'll just tap it. There we go. The power of the surface. See who goes first.

No way. Fuck you. Wow! Wow. Wow. Who would have thought? You saw it. Every fucking time.

You saw it spin. I'm so excited for the fantasy draft next year. I don't, I didn't go first last year. Unbelievable. I think I was in the, like, you were third. He was third.

I was third. I was first. Right where you want to be. Right where you want to. You could have said any number. What is in then? All right. So we're starting off with location.

Oh, man. And I get to go first. Oh, yeah. What a surprise. And this is the tricky thing of, do I want to take certain games off the board? Are you going to really meta, meta the game? A little bit, because I am going for the most votes here.

I do want people to choose my open world as best. And like, there are certain levels of excellence. But you have to be happy with yourself inside. You know what I mean? You can't sell out to the audience, right? You can't just be, oh my God, I'm going to take XYZ game. Think about all the times you hate or love a game in the audience shits on you for it. Exactly.

Here's my counter-argument. this episode title is making the best open world game not our personal favorite so I feel like blessing would be justified to do whatever the fuck you are. But then the best is the one in your heart. Don't listen to Roger. Think about that.

Well, here's the other thing. Think about that. When we talk about location in open world, there are a few things that come to mind. I think about like good locations in a like gameplay sense of like how well certain games curate that experience of exploration and discovery.

and we talk about that all the time of how good a Zelda, perhaps a wild, open world is. And like, part of me wants to go that direction. There's another part of me, though, that thinks about fidelity and, like, how well realized a world is. And I think I might lean that way. I'm going to say Red Dead Redemption, too. Good for you.

Good for you. The audience follows my opinions, right? Not a game that I'm in love with or a game that I necessarily love by any means, but it's a game that I respect a lot just for how well made it is. is, right? How, like, high budget it is, how, like, well-realized that world is. If I'm going to get lost in a world, if I'm going to find a video game world to, like, want to admire all the finer details in, Red Dead Red Dead Red Dead Redemption 2 might be just the best-looking open-world game I've ever played maybe still to this day, right? Like, it is very high fidelity, it is very

well-realized, it is very diverse in land. It looks like if it came out today, we wouldn't bat an eye. Yeah. Yeah, that's my pick, Red Dead Red Dead Red Dead Redemption, too. 30 FPS. I guess we can just go down the line. No, I think you could... Do I try to spin it again? Yeah. All right.

I think you should spin it again. Go down the bucket of life. Let's show it again. Let's show it again. I'm agreeing. So we got Roger and Andy. Bullshit. That's a bullshit.

And it's Roger. Oh, wow. Interesting. I mean, that's a fair pole right there. That's a fair straw poll, everybody. That's a fair straw poll, everybody. I am going the exact opposite direction is you, blessing. I love the audience, but fuck the audience.

It's about my heart, right? It's what I'm making. the game that I want to see. Yeah. No fucking right mind game developer whatever make it. I really want to know what your fuck the audience pick is.

Yeah, audience, I love you all by the way. So you're not going for the win to... I love you all. No, I'm going for... I'm going for... The way that I thought about this, right, was not necessarily like, oh, what is the best location

in a video game? It's like, where do I want my game to be set? And I want my game to be set in New York. Right? So it's like, where in New York do I want my... Like, what type of New York do I want this to be in? GTA for Spider-4 or Spider-Man. Those are the two options, pretty much.

much, right? I love GTA 4. GTA 4 is probably one of my favorite games of all time. I can't do that open world. I mean, that location, like, specifically the fact that that game is so foggy and sad and desaturated and you have to get mods in order to make that game look really good, I have to go with Spider-Man, and I will go to leave a little room for you guys. But you've got to get mods to make GTA-4 look good? Huh? To make GTA-4 look good, you got to get mods? I mean, like, in a modern sense, right? Like, that game just does not look as great. It doesn't look like a 20-24 video game. And even then, like, I'm just saying, the art style of it all.

It's great for that game, but for the game that I want, which is a little bit more vibrant, I don't necessarily want all the fog and everything to be DC-Otrated. Well, that's why I was kind of hoping that one of the categories would have also been fidelity.

We can add it. I mean, yeah, we can add it. Because, like, I think there's a lot of very impressive old games that have great settings in terms of, like, where they're set. But, I mean, I don't want my game to look old in that way.

I just like maybe the, the locations and the level design of the world and things like that. So like that's kind of one of the, like I'm right with Roger where it's like, we do have the wild card here. If you want to pick the fidelity, or not wild card, special sauce here.

You can take the fidelity for the special sauce. Yeah, make a fidelity to a video game for a special sauce. Oh, I see. Okay. Okay. Someone brought up the division. That's a great call.

I forgot that game existed. I'm not Greg Miller. I'm not thinking about that game too much. But I feel like Spartan means. Like how the rules are really good I'm thinking about bagels. Yeah. The one thing,

like the whole out... I'm taking Spider-Man 2, by the way. They're rarely online. The whole out of poke for Spider-Man 2 is that like not many interiors. Sure. You are dealing with like a fully outside

New York. I hadn't thought about that. Does that, so that counts. Like I literally take the entire map and I just, there's no like additive to this. I can't be like, well, I'm taking Spider-Man

New York where I can go inside sometimes. No. That sucks. I'm going to be like, I'm going to take Red Dead Redemption 2, but I'm going to make it not a Westman. I'm changing my thing. I'm going division then.

Let me go inside. I need to go inside. I need to go inside. You're going to go to the museums? Which division? I guess the first one, right? The first one? Yeah. If you went to New York? I don't know nothing about this game, but hey, people are saying it's in New York. So I believe it. Oh, you know, Division 2 is in Washington. Yeah, so I guess Division 1. I'll take it then. I'll take Division 1. Andy Cortez. What's your location? Eldon Ring, baby?

Give me that gigantic open world with all of the DLC in that one package, because the DLC is part of the video game. Like, you can't just give that a separate. You can't buy the DLC without the core game, is what I'm saying. It's all encompassing. Okay, this actually brings up a good question. Because I was wondering if I could pick the Elder Ring, Shadow of the Earth Tree, DLC, separately from Eldon Ring. It is all encompassing.

I mean, you could buy that, but you won't be able to play without the base game, is what I'm saying. So I'm going with Eldon Ring, the lands between the shadow, the world, land of shadow, the shadow lands. Uh-huh. I mean, just so many spaces for me to put whatever the hell I want, so many. beautiful locations, so much verticality, and a world that I am still discovering things in as I walk through these spaces.

Elin Ring is, I'm so glad Roger picked something that wasn't Eldon Ring. Because you went with your heart, I'm going with my heart. Yeah, absolutely, that's beautiful. And that's what this podcast is all about. This is a beautiful podcast. First of all, don't look at me. You picked the division.

You know, idiot. New York is in my heart, right? What location is what my open world would be? You had an Eldon Ring on the table. I'm not taking Eldon. You don't know I think about it's all made up. I'm talking about real life, right? I'm talking about real life, okay?

If I could choose, I would just say I want Spider-Man, too, just give me Queens. Just give me Queens and let me go inside buildings. Let me go inside the 7-Eleven. I would go to a gas station every morning in Queens. I would go at school in Queens. My dad would give me a hot dog every morning. And then I would, I want a sour cream on it.

And I call it spaghetti. So I want the spaghetti hot dogs in my game. In my game. You're thinking more like open city, though. Mike Harley shit. Spaghetti hot dogs? I mean, I thought it was, I thought it was spaghetti. My dad wouldn't correct me for years.

For years. God, I'm hungry. We'll get to lunch then. Oh, it's a snake jack. Yeah, it was steak. So, Andy, we're going to have you again. Oh, God dang. So next up is main story.

No, spin again. Spin that shit again, everybody. Spin that shit again. Main story, okay, this is a, this is an interesting one because I think about the way that characters tie in and like characters and NPCs are another category. So this is kind of fascinating to wrestle that in your brain.

Like how how are these games going to be affected? I also... I should maybe be writing down what the choices are so I can... Well, it's in the games cast talk.

Oh, beautiful. Yeah, I got you. Okay. Yeah, that's perfect. So I can know which games are off the board. When I think of story, I think of like,

I want a game with the story as good as blank. Okay. Okay, I like that. Interesting. I like that. I... I'm having a good day.

I'm having a good day. He's having a great day. He's having a great day. I want a game with a story as good as oh man, this is so tough. I'm going to say

Ghost of Tsushima. Oh. When I think of of those story turns, all the stuff that just had me shocked, all of the awesome moments in the side quests that was like, God, I could have not done the side quest and not experienced this

emotional-ass story of this old lady who has a bad memory, you know? You don't get the side quest. Side quest is a different category. Separate category. You don't get those side quests. You only get the main story. Oh, son of a bitch. You wrote it down. You wrote it down. I mean, it's already written down, yeah.

I did fuck up. Well, you know, the old lady's stupid anyway. Who cares about her? Who cares about her? No, by the way, that moment fucking got me. As somebody who, like, has dealt a lot with Alzheimer's and dementia and their family,

that side quest was insane. So you all should pick that. Ghost of Uschaima, I think, is just, it's such a great story to experience. I had such an amazing time with it, and I'm so glad I finally got back to it. I love that video game. I got to finish that one.

I played it on PS4, and then I got a PS5, and then I forgot about it. If you ever want to play multiplayer, hit me up. That's not how I want to play that game. I should probably play the main game first, right? Before I start. Probably, yeah.

I also need PS Plus. That's a whole thing. You don't have PS Plus. You don't have PS Plus. You work for kind of funny. Well, how do you not have PS Plus? I mean, not that kind of provides it. Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, exactly. Fucking, you know. What you got? Roger. Go on my heart. When I think about a video game that has the bullshit that I want. I know exactly where you're going with this. I want death stranding.

Oh, I didn't know. Not knowing you're going with this. I want a bullshit story. I want a story that is like, hey, I got dead man and I got, I want you to do with a woman. I'm so mad because I thought neither of you would have thought of that. And I'll save that for characters. I want an insane story. I want an insane story that is about connecting strands.

It's about everything and it's about nothing at the same time. That's what I'm looking for. Have I played death stranding? No. Okay. Do I understand the vibes? I need you to understand how like, like, that was a, That was a character slash NPC pick that that should have been.

Because like the main story, Death Stranding, it's good. But here's like, I don't want my game to have a real story. I don't want my, my game. Descraning has a real story. No, but I don't want my story. It's just convoluted. That's what I'm saying. Like, I don't want my story to like be the focal point of my game.

I want my game to be the traversal, but I want in the background. It's a wild shit that's like, yeah, I guess it's really. The Death Stranding story is not in the background. Let me tell you, Rod's that like, look, I was just. Death Stranding and New York, people get it. People understand the vibes that I'm, I was the same. I was the same way. And when that final cutscene is playing, I was like, this shit could go on for four more hours and I would be locked the fuck in here.

It's so good. The fact that you keep describing it is in the background. Who let Roger Cook? Everybody understood that one. See? I'm so bad because, like, when you talk about Death Stranding, oh, man, I was so locked in. That was the only thing I wrote down for my character slash NBC pick. Because, like, fucking mama.

Yeah, they're named two more fragile or fragile, depending on anyone to call it. Sam Porter Bridge is played by Norman Reedus, the baby and the thing. The main thing that I want is to be able to deliver stuff, right? So I'm using that as like the kind of the vehicle here. Okay. I want to be able to deliver stuff and connect New York. Because New York are fragmented place. That's cool.

Sometimes when you're in Brooklyn, you can't get to, you can't get to Queens sometimes easily in Hawaii. You'd be like Spider-Man and Pope McGuire. Yeah. Who's delivering the pizzas? Yeah. That pizza plays real popular still, right? Oh, that one? I didn't even know that was a real place.

They had to be honest. It's a real pizza place that everybody goes to, like, photo ops. It's like the Seinfeld restaurant. I'll write that down for my New York trip next week. It's my turn. Oh, man, this is don't me for a loop now. Okay, so I have two ideas. I played the meta game.

I didn't even realize. I was just thinking about bullshit. I have two ideas for main story. I'll think out loud. I don't care if this comes back. I really hate that you took Red Dead to you. Because, like, that would have been the one that I chose. But you already took that off the board.

You had to get off the board. I hate your ass. So I'm between two games. Cyropunk 27, Fantom Liberty specifically. Oh, we. For main story. But that's DLC, you know, part of the main game. And that's the conversation I want to have, which is, like, can I pick a DLC?

Because I really just want that main story. I don't care about the rest of it. I mean, I like the rest of CyroPong. But for this, for me, the Phantom Liberty story shines above everything else. I feel like you got to take the entire package. I think you got to take the entire package. I think, well, like, look, Family Liberty is phenomenal, but, like, the core game is awesome as well. I think you just don't remember it well because of what it was surrounded with.

Yeah, but like, Phantom Liberty is just my favorite content of that. I'm just saying you're not taking an L by including the core game. Like it's a good dub for you. People are saying, you know, I got to do the full thing,

which I respect. We're going to do it that way. I respect because you got Shadow the Earth Tree basically with Eldon Ring. So in that place, in that case, I'm going near Automata. Oh,

the nearer Tomah. The near Atomeda, the near Atomeda story is one of the best main stories of experience in a video game. It's the one that I was also thinking of holding for office. for a different category, but I'll get there

later. But yeah, like, a story that is about, like, what mix is human. It is about, it has, like, a lot of philosophical elements. It has an ending that'll be a fucking gut punch to anybody that gets there. I also do like the, we're going to replay this to get different sides of the story element to it. Like, a lot of

innovative things that are being done. I don't say innovative like that. A lot of innovative things that are being done with the near-automotive story. So that is my pick. Very good choice. Next up. Side missions. Yeah, prototype Patrick is near automata an open world. Oh.

And I'm... It is, is it? Like, I think yes and no. Because there's... I think when you think open world, you're thinking it's just like that desert kind of area. It's divided enough to where I'd say it's not open world. Really? I would say...

But I would include it anyway, because this is the open zone argument where I'm like... It's not even like you're going back to a hub and then hopping into another area. Like, you run far enough and it's like... You go back to your space station. Yeah, but that's like in specific chapters You'll get kicked back to it They're basically zones that are divided off But like

I guess like, you know, black screens All I'm saying is that I want to give you this Because that opens up the door And you don't want to open You don't want to open up that door You don't want to see it on the other side You don't want to see this on the other side People in chat are saying

There's a lot of debate online If it's considered open world or open zone I mean I can start a run of threat too It is all interconnected enough And like all those zones are very open in a way that I would call it an open world But now I'm afraid of this door I'm opening yeah forbidden door be careful because I'm like pandora's door Bend door because now I'm scared that Andy is gonna pick blood-borne for something

It's gonna turn in some bullshit Mmm mini games you know what? Wow fuck it I'm going cyrepunk then I'm going cyrepunk wow You should open up the door I'm scared to open up that door open of the door. Can't you pick one game that's not open world, though? Sure. Yeah, but I have a very specific idea of what I want to do with that. Oh, wow, we.

Yeah, I know what I want that to be. Wow. Oh, how? All right. Oh, now it's side missions. So it's back to me again. The Witcher 3. Okay. That's, yeah, that's good. The Witcher 3 is renounced for its side quests.

That's pretty darn good. Like how short and sweet a lot of the side quests are. I like a lot of the decisions that you're making in the quests, right? Like you're wrestling a lot with morality. Can we turn the chat off over here as well? I don't want, I don't want to check giving people ideas. I like this. I like this.

Bye bye, chat. Bye bye. You know, just open up chat of my own different tab. But yeah, Witcher 3 renowned for, again,

a side quest, but then also I like a lot of the great area decisions that you have to make that are like, fuck, all right, like, am I going to kill this person or this person? Or like,

am I going to free this thing? But then also maybe free a curse upon a village or some shit, right? It's always those like harrowing decisions that I think work really well. So yeah, that's my pick. Roger, side missions. Now, what does the side mission mean? Don't do this. Don't do this.

It's not part of the main story. Okay. It's something optional. Now we have an issue, right? Mario Odyssey is not a open world game. I want to be able to click the moons. I want to be, because that's a side mission to me. No, it's not. It's part of the main progression. That's not a mini game.

That's not a mini game. It's a lot of car, bro. Wait, collecting moons? That's the main mission. That is the main objective of the game. You need to collect moons. Or all the coins. I don't think you'll just collect a bunch of shit. I don't think you understand how this game works. I just want to collect a bunch of shit. Did you play Odyssey? All these, all the moons are part of the main thing. None of them are signed moons. Then all the coins.

That has to be a sign quest. I want to collect coins. Odyssey's not an open world game. That is a side quest. It is not part of the main thing. Okay, first of all, so it has to be a side thing. We're not calling Mario Odyssey an open world game. Okay, fine. You could do the wild card for it.

Now let's workshop everybody. Workout works out with it. What's an open-rown game with collectibles? Yes. We got to start thinking. That's called a 3D platformer, Roger. We got to start thinking. We got to start thinking. We got to work together.

Like, infamous. Something like, or like, don't, I forget which one. I'm thinking of Saints Row of the fourth one. You named one earlier, Spider-Man. Now, is the Kurox seats count? Yeah. Okay, then give me tears of the kingdom.

You motherfuckers. Wow! You're using that on this? You're using that on this! What the fuck is my word? Your asses! You're your wretched! I gave you out!

I gave you all out! And you looked at me! And you said the kurox seeds count. I want the koroxed in my game. What a waste! What a waste! You're a son of a bitch! Damn.

What a waste. Are you kidding me? That's like doing a fast food drive pig and being like, all right, who's got... You know what? I'm picking McDonald's for best cups. Like, what the fuck? Bye-bye chat.

You don't have to. to be selective with the side quest for Tears of the Kingdom. Like, yes, you get the Kurox Seeds, but then you get also get, I would say really, really good fucking side quests and Tears of the Kingdom. So I also want the Kurox Seeds as well. You know what I mean? Like that's the main thing. I just want to find something.

Okay, well, actually that does get into a good conversation. Because Tears of the Kingdom does have actual side quests. Yeah. That they call side quests. Yeah, yeah. Add them. Are we calling Korox Seeds side quests? Oh, you said it.

You said it. I did. I did say, yeah. I would count Kurox seeds as like a thing that is like, like, That is on the side. Yeah. And then once you do it all, you get something. So it's a side quest.

Yeah, you get a little piece of poop. You get a little caca. You're a madman. You're an insane person. You also added this thing of like, I was ready to have a fun little, oh, okay, you choose tears. I choose tears for this thing. We were like, no, it's off the table.

One of the one of us chooses it. So this energy was brought. You know what I mean? I didn't choose this one. But yeah, I want tears of the kingdom for my side missions. Because I want to get a bunch of random collectibles throughout the world. I was also thinking about. Why didn't you go with St.

St.row 4? I asked. I was telling you that St. Stroh 4 has exactly the thing you're talking about. Yeah, but it's not as fun. You know what I mean? It's great. You're like flying through the world and you're collecting all these little like, I forget what you called. Are you going to choose Stainstrow 4?

No, I chose the Witcher 3 like a sane person. What the fuck are you talking about? That's why I chose seriously thinking about. I mean, you haven't breath of the wild too. You can do that as well. Andy, it's your turn. Okay. You only like the Breath of the Wild side quests.

Here's what I love. Because this next choice, I was like, do I want to waste this game on this or wait for the next category but guess what I get to go back to back right here gamers so for side missions I'm gonna go with

oh man oh geez Louise this one's hard man because it's hard to separate characters from so much of what the side missions are like the characters and the MPCs in them you know what I mean

yeah I feel that for me I think I think about it on like the design aspect of like... And the storytelling and stuff. Yeah, which like what are the side... What game has side quests that I like the direction of them? I like the design. That's why with Witcher 3, I just like the... How a lot of them, you're making these tough choices

and like a lot of them, they are short and sweet. And like, characters is a big part of it, but I'm also, yeah, thinking of like the story part of what side quests tell really good stories in their game. Okay. All right. I have my choice. Wow. And I...

I could flip a coin and, you know, say I should choose this for this category or for the next category. But I'm going to go with it for this category. I'm so scared. Balders Gate 3. Oh, man. Good for you. Bollers Gate 3 is just filled to the fucking brim with just quality

that isn't to the main quest. Every quest feels like a goddamn main quest. That's my side mission. I love that. And now did I struggle picking Ballers Gate 3 for side missions, or the next category, which I get to go first in. Yeah, you get to go again.

Characters and NPCs sure did. Because it's like really, really hard. Really hard. And that's, honest, Baldersgate 3 is one of the ones I had shortlisted for characters specifically. Because, like, when you think of Balders Gate 3, you're thinking about Carlock, you're thinking about Asterian.

Shadow Hard, bro. You're thinking about those party members that are so strong. So now I get to pick first for characters slash NPCs. Yeah. Which, again, really are. to not, really hard to not save Baldersgate 3 for this one. Man, Death Stranding would have been a great pick for this.

Hey. I'm gonna go with Forthorizing 5 because of that, no, I'm kidding. For characters and NPCs, I'm looking at my list of stuff. Wait, wait, is there a reason? I don't know, I thought it would be fun. You know what I mean? Get people guessing. No.

Okay, let him go. Roger sent me a message. Throw it at. I like that. I like that. I like that. I mean, they're still watching.

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Go listen today, and don't forget to follow a better paradise on your platform of choice to make sure you never miss an episode. And we're back. What I was saying is that I have ridden in the dock when I'm throwing to add. You know, it just felt like the right moment. Sometimes you gotta just...

It happens. It's jazz. We're also 40 minutes into the show. Honestly, it's fair. Roger was feeling the spirit of... I felt of being a host. Well, I just felt the energy. You know what I mean?

Like, I'm just like, oh, it's a great cliffhanger, right? You see the ending of the episode. You want to end it, right? Yeah. Andy, have you figured out your character slash NBC pick? I have. I sure have, lesson.

What is it? you can romance some of them you can kiss them on lips you can make friends you can betray I'm going with Dragon Age Inquisition Ooh Okay

Really I mean would I prefer to Just have Ballers Gate 3 for both Absolutely But this is a good second pick for me because I think Dragon Ages Or Balders A3's side quests Are like As incredible as their characters are

The quality of the side quests Like if I'm measuring side quests and characters versus Dragon Age Inquisitions SideQuests and characters, it's kind of like no brainer for me to go with the How Much Better the SideQuests are in Dragon Age Or in Baldus Gate 3 So yeah, awesome side quests, romances

Cool enemies, sexy people Yeah, it's awesome It's a great time. Make friends with people, make enemies, I love it. Roger, what you got? I'm going with the one that I know you guys aren't going to choose But again, this is for my heart, it's from his heart. Outer Worlds. I love the kids.

characters in that game. That's a really good pick. I love the game. But is that open world? Yeah, I feel like that's more RPG than open world. Don't you fucking do this to me. This is like an open zone game for me. Yeah, it's like an open zone pick for me too.

Outer Worlds too. You don't know what characters are in there. Oh, chat. You still got your wild card as well, Roger. What does chat think? Because I'm curious to hear what people think. Because like, if you called, if we called Neartonado Open World, that I would give you outer worlds.

worlds. But I feel like those to me, it is, it is just smaller versions of Skyrim in every world. You know what I mean? Like, you're doing the same shit you would do in Skyrim. It's just, you have to teleport to the places. People are saying open zone, definitely not open to the world. Felix says, nah, I'm not letting Roger have this.

Okay, everybody. Fuck. Okay, well, I'm actually fucked. I don't know. You know what? I, you know what? Fuck it. I'm just going to... Well, here, uh, make your choice? Because now I'm thinking about my choice and I'm like is this whole thing broken but we'll get there in a second. Is the system corrupt? We live in a society.

I'm not happy with it but I guess it's like similar enough because it's the obsidian connection so I would do New Vegas like I it's okay it's the same. That would have been a good for SideQuest too. Yeah I know I mean I forgot about that's a good one but I I would choose that one again I'm not happy with it I love

out of role specifically because I think that game is so funny the characters are so great and it's also just a simple like you understand where you stay you you you understand where you are with all these people pretty much. Like it's easy to manage and I also love some of the companions that I have in that game. But I guess I'll do New Vegas. I'm not happy about it y'all.

Isn't that happy? Because I think, you know, we got to break the boundaries. Open zone, open world. It doesn't matter. It's just a quick time, quick, you know, three second travel in between. I could see the argument for outer world a little bit because like those areas that you go to are, I think they're all open-ish, right? And like the pick that I have...

You have to travel in between all of those things. Like, you know what I mean? There's fast travel in every single one of those open worlds. Yeah. There's just multiple open worlds pretty much, in my mind. Which for me should count. But then that opens the door to Odyssey, and I really don't... I'm done with Odyssey, you know what I got mine.

Odyssey is definitely not an open world game. Like, we're not going to call... Those are levels. Like, at that point, Mario 64 is an open world game. We know that's dumb. But now my pick for characters slash NBC's, Final Fantasy 7 reber. Dang.

Yeah. That is, that is a definitive, we're definitely calling that an open world, right? Because for me that gets into the weird thing. Yeah, because it gets into the weird thing of like they're separated. But it has a open world, but then it's you're traveling between all these different zones. Okay, well, no, you didn't think of, you didn't think that until I put it. Let's just say that these open. It is.

These open worlds, these open zones are very large. And it gets into the, they connect to each other, though. I mean, I connect to which I go to a ship and I go to one place to another. Here's the thing about Final Fane's seven Rebirth, which for sure. makes it an open world is that I'm pretty sure when you get to the point in that game where you like unlock a ship, you can like cross the ocean and get to the other parts of that game.

And like this is a thing you don't realize because like why would you ever do that? But you're crossing. You're using, it's a teleportation. No, it's not. You're literally in the end game. You can literally, yeah. You're slowly opening up zone by zone but it is all interconnected as an open world.

Rebirth is definitively. I'm just confused, right? because outer worlds is open, it's multiple open worlds. Like that's the way that I describe that, right? Like, it's just, you're going to different planets. So, like, in the same sense, the Starfield is open zone. Because, you know what I mean? Like, you're going to different planets and they're both, you know what I mean?

I'm only to relent and give you outer worlds. Because I think I agree with what you're saying. Yeah, I agree. All right. I appreciate it. So, are you retroactively, we're giving you. Thanks for opening the door. We open the door, everybody.

We're replacing Rogers' fallout pick with the outer worlds. world's putting Fallout New Vegas back on the table. And yeah, Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth, easy pick for characters slash MCCs because come on. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's a great choice. One of the best character rosters in a video game, or like cast a character in the game, I should say, right?

Like that party is insane. Which brings us to our next one in combat. Yeah. And I'm happy that this worked out to where I'm going first. Oh, you sound of gun. Because I was scared. I'm so scared about this one, dude. I was scared that like you guys might have like done a similar thing that I'm about

to do here for this one. I'm going to snap my fingers and make this my non-open world pick. For combat. And my pick, Sekiro Shadows Die twice. Good. Pick, bless.

Maybe one of, if not, the best combat system I've experienced in a video game. One of the most fun games I've ever played. God dang. Addicted to that fucking combat. And I think here I've won. I don't think there's any going back now.

I think I've won this whole thing. Roger. It's your turn. Metal Gear, Solid 5. Fuck. Yeah, that's a great one. I have always been looking for the game that is like Meliger Solid 5 combat-wise,

and I have yet to find it. That game is so special. Let me say about Hitman. But it's different, right? Like, I love Hitman. And I think I would, I was, you know, that's the open zone, open-roll combat thing, right? But it's like, whatever. But I love the idea of being able to approach any situation the way that I want to, right?

The idea that I can go on a horse and then hide on the horse as it's moving, like there's so many weird ways that you can play every interaction. And then also just, you know, you can blow up everything with, with RPGs. Like, it is, it is the perfect. I always wanted a open-world splinter cell. And then I played Melodigur Solid 5. I'm like, oh, fuck, like, I want that even more. Awesome.

Like, that's my perfect. So Meliger Sal 5 ground zeroes. You know what's like, you try, you're trying to get that one. You try to get that one. You know what's like a core memory? Yeah. For me, would be, um, just the, the amount of time I spent in middle of your saw a fan of pain

and hearing the jingling of all of his equipment on his like waist and all the like oh yeah like ding tch tch t t like those sounds yeah can you just look at like you know big boss running in uh... Fan of pain punished snake it's just like that sound it just feels good to me and then when you jump and you do the slide

you just feel that sound it just yeah the camera shakes a little bit it's great P-quod so good Andy will combat you choosing Oh, man. See, I'm scared about the door we've opened. This motherfucker's gonna say bloodbored. That doesn't count.

Which I will dispute. This is a tough one. This is a tough one. Because I have a very distinct different... Oh, yeah. It's just the sound. That's a good sound. Doesn't it just take you back?

It's like, man. God, I gotta replay that game, bro. I got to replay that. I wouldn't know. Good video. I'm hearing this. I thought Bear was going to be like, Actually, those are, you know, two koalas fucking...

Jesus. For combat... You drawn on the screen. It'd be... I'm scratching out, like, it's easier for me to, like, kind of scratch out the games. It'd be kind of silly for me to not try to go wildcard here. Wow. So I think...

I think I'm going to go wildcard here. But not one that you would think. I'm going to go with Lies of P. Oh, okay. I'm going to go with Lies of P instead of going for something like Dark Souls 3 because I prefer the combat of Lies of P to the Dark Souls 3 combat.

I prefer that Perry system. It's very similar to having a Securo thing, the posture meter. All of that stuff is right up my goddamn alley, but you already pick Secura, so I can't go for that. I would go for Liza P just because I enjoy.

enjoy the shit out of it, breaking the enemy's weapons. It's like the secondary arm thing. Oh my gosh, yeah. The little dash that you have, yeah, all of those... Dude, yeah, absolutely. You told me even more, yeah. I was already sold them on the fence. Yeah.

Well, this is where I was gonna throw to ads, but we've already done ads. So Andy, you're next. Do it again. Oh, shoot, I get to go again. Yeah, did. Next up is Traversal. Oh my goodness. This is weird.

Because now I'm like, I'm not wanting to pick Traversal from something else that would break the immersion of my world game. You're building a game. In the way that I like that you're sticking within like the world, the universe. It's obvious that I'm kind of creating a medieval fantasy game, right? Like I don't, you know, similar to when I played Power World, I'm like, I don't want guns in my, can I put like a non-gun server? It just breaks the immersion for me. Yeah. I love shooty-shoot games.

Don't get me wrong. But I don't, you know, it just feels weird. So, I don't want to put god dang spaceships in my game. I'm not trying to put vehicles in my game. But you motherfuckers already, you already picked Witcher 3, which would have been great for Roach.

Oh yeah. You know? There's not good horses, though, in other games. So what I'm going to go with is, hold on, got to scroll up real quick. I'm going to go with Legend is All the Breath of the Wild.

Good for you. The horses. Oh, the climbing. The horses, the climbing, the gliding. That's good. Get out of town. Like, come on. Easy, no-brainer for me.

I had to double check to make sure that Roger picked tears or breath of the wild. Smart. I didn't even think about the climbing for traversal, but that's a really good call. Swimming. Well, you drown real quick, though. You do drown pretty quick, you're right.

But yeah, I mean, climbing and gliding alone are great, and then, yeah, having, like, the horse. Getting any horse from the freaking open world, making it your own, naming it, Oh, that's in there. Snowboarding on a shield. Yeah.

Hell yeah, dog. Roger. Traversal. I picked one. It's a little bit of everything. Just cause four. Oh! That's good.

Anything. I'm using the zip line. I'm using a helicopter. I'm flying. I'm doing what the fuck I want. That's very good. And especially if I'm delivering packages and stuff, boom. At top of the Empire Staples,

three seconds up there. That's the one. That's a cheat code. This guy's on it right now. Just Cause 4 everybody. Man, who did let Roger Cook? That's a good one, bro. Now, here's the thing, right?

I mean, it's far as traversal, right? I know it's like, but Just Cause 4 is the one that has like tornadoes and shit. Do I get that as well? That's traversal. That's traversal. What, are you flying in the tornadoes? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sure, why not?

Fuck, yeah, dude, I got tornadoes in my game. Oh, you got tornadoes. Add parentheses with tornadoes. Easy, my turn. It's weird because, like, I didn't expect to have this choice by the time I got here, and so I had some backup options. But I think I should just go with the easy answer, which hasn't been taken off the board, right?

Yeah, nobody said this yet. Spider-Man 2. Good for you. Nobody said Spider-Man, right? No. That feels strange. But yeah, I'll take it. I got better, Spider-Man.

Give me the, well, I've never played just cosplay for it. I can't talk. But, yeah, give me the web swinging. Give me the wing suit. Give me everything that comes with the fucking wall running. The fast travel, sort of like, peeking in and out. It's funny because, like, I had,

assuming that Spider-Man was not going to be on the board anymore, I had written down here forts of Horizon 5. That's a good one. And also, actually, let me look forward. Being all than cars. You know what you should have done? What's that? Light simulator.

That'd be dumb. I mean, you can do whatever the fuck you out there. Dian Light 2 is a great car as well. Just the parkour and- Parkour. I love the parkour in that game. Mers Edge Catalyst. I also had Mures Edge Catalyst.

Oh, really? Yeah. I was a joke. But I was thinking, I like Mirrors Edge, the first one more than Catalyst. And I haven't played it. The first mirror is Mier's edge. No, the second one.

Yes, it's fine. It's fine. It's whatever. But, like, I think dying light two park horror-wise, I actually prefer. But yeah, Spider-Man 2 is giving me my pick for a traversal, which brings us to music and is me again. Man, this stuff,

because one of my shortlisted ones here was going to be near Automata, but we've decided that that is not an open world. Open up the door. Which brings me to... Open it up. Which brings me to this next question. Is Zelda Ocarina of Time in open world?

No. Like, think about it. You know what I mean? See, that's an interesting one where it's like, do we consider Batman Arkham City an open world? Yeah. I mean, yeah, right? Absolutely, yeah. I would see the case for Ocarina of Time then.

Because I think there is similar in scope and size. Like, the focus is the dungeons in each of those areas, but it's still. But you have like open, like many open world games have like, like linear dungeons you'll go down, right? like Ellen Ring has that. Think of all the times that you're walking into this room and it comes to a black screen and it comes back and you're now in the new area.

That is the thing is like in Ocarina you have the big like overall that you're running around and then you'll go to Kakariko and that's like a separate segment or you'll go to like whatever specific area. That's just the technological thing right? Like they just couldn't make it

like in between. They didn't try harder enough. They didn't try harder enough. Lazy Nintendo. I mean, I haven't, I don't really gel to deep. I feel like it's kicking open the door a bit too much. I'm gonna go Horizon Forbidden Western music. Oh, great call. I love the music of Horizon.

For music. Yeah. The main Horizon theme, I think, is fantastic. I know we don't think about music as much when you think of Horizon, but I think those main themes really hit. And I do think, like, the overall score for those games are good. Very good call. Roger, music.

It's time for me to use. Ding. Wing. Whoa, dude. Dingwing. Oh, also, fuck, I'm an idiot. It's time for my, it's time for my special, my special card. What's it, what do we call this?

A wild card. My special card. Yeah, it's a special little card. My special card. I'm looking for a synth wave, like kind of electronic music type deal. So I thought of Hotline Miami. I thought of Ghostrunner. I also thought of Thumper.

That's like a little bit different, but I guess like a horror type deal. I'm going for Hotline Miami. I love those vibes. It's creepy. It's fucking gets you hype. I think that that's what I'm going for in my game. Yeah, I'll am, everybody. Andy's your turn.

I freaking love that. I like that a lot, too. Thank you. For music. Yep. You know the vibe I'm going with. You're building something here. You know the vibes.

You could see it. You could see all, everybody creaming their jeans when this game comes out. Goonin'in' day one. People are gooning left and right. The goom squads are out. I'm going to go with a little game called Skyrim for my music. Oh, that's good. That's good.

That's good. That's good. It's filling the vibe, man. Like, we are primed for success here. That's a great call specifically for Skyrim at music, right? Like, I was thinking about Skyrim the entire time I was building this and I was like, I don't really have a place for this, but for your game, that's exactly what you need to be. That's awesome.

I will say the thing I'm upset with is that I wasn't thinking about the licensed direction. And GTA radio, like San Andreas specifically. I thought about it. I almost felt like it was cheating. I know it's not cheating, but it felt like cheating, right? because it's like you can just do anything there, right? Like you could also, because he would include the... But you had to have that specific license soundtrack though, right?

But it's the license, but it's also the really great sound, like actual orchestral themes and score, yeah, that they have. So it's like, that to me is like, wow, that's cheating. But we didn't cheat, everybody. Andy, we're back to you. Next up is special sauce. Oh, this one's so hard, because I got two that I want to choose from. I don't know what to pick, man.

It's hurting my soul right now. Um What if we got like Can we get two special sauces? No Okay No Fair enough

I thought about it though Because I'll tell you what There's Part of me really really Really really wants to pick from any of the Amazing open world Survival crafting games that I love And be able to do all this cool

fantastical shit You know ride a goddamn you know, dragon or a griffin or something like that but also be able to build a house and a bode

be able to make love with my NPCs back home have a whole like it's just an orgy not stop you know what I'm saying but like build a cool house with the resources

and all that scavenging that takes place in a lot of these open world survival games but I know that one thing I enjoyed probably the most of this year is running around

with all my ponds in Dragon's Dogma 2 and having all of them be beside me doing their moves. I summon in Kevin Coelho from the one that I created for Mike and Kevin Coelho's just knocking orcs up into the sky. And it's like, holy shit, look at Kevin Goh. Look at that little motherfucker. I want to, I don't know exactly what to pinpoint here, but it's like...

The pawns. It's just having... But like, you know, I'm in this multiplayer combat, some of these pawns are the NPCs in the world as well. I love the idea of these pawns just always being beside me doing their own thing as we are out adventuring in this world I think the pond like just calling it the pawn system I think like encapsulates all encompassing

I think so like the nemesis system like you hear it you know what it is yeah yeah yeah yeah dogma pawn system is what I'm running this is a great little game you're making Andy I love this I see I see you like how like cohesive your pics are because really I'm just like what are the best things I know and giving everything like you but you're actually cooking something here you think that's stranding and tears the kingdom don't match you Oh, you know, I think they match more than people would think.

Look, I put out the tweet, like, when I was, like, hot into Dragon's Dogma 2 before Eldon Ring kind of took over my life again, was like, I know Ball's Gate 3 is one of the best games of all time. I know that. I also know that I would prefer other combat systems. And I would put out, like, if you had this Dragon 8, Jagans Dogma 2, did I say Dragon Age earlier, if you had this Dragon Doggama 2 combat system with all your friends running around, all this wild shit, putting that

into Baldur's Gate with those side quests and those stories and those MPCs, that's the perfect game for me. Because I'd prefer that over the turn-based strategy sort of vibe. I'm cooking something here, and I think people are going to call off from work for at least two days when this game comes

out. At least. It seems it says soundtrack from Skyrim. That trailer is insane. That'd be awesome. Featuring this on the whole soundtrack from Skyrim. and Dragon Doggmas too Spotsin. Uh-huh, that's the one. Oh, that's awesome.

The combat from Liza P. I don't think this is legal. Roger. Special sauce. Yeah, I had a bunch of different ones that I thought of. I was thinking, like, maybe superpowers, like, from, like, Saints Row 4

or, like, crackdown almost. But I'm gonna go with something that sounds pretty mundane, but when you think about it, it's kind of powerful, and it's the dead rising, being able to just pick up anything. Like, there's just so many items

like in this game where like you're picking up a hot dog, you're eating it, you're picking up the random sticks off the floor and you can, like, there's a lot of, just the idea of being able to pick up a bunch of random, mundane objects, yeah, specifically like mundane objects that you're able to use as weapons and to eat and consumables that are just scattered throughout the entire world.

Bear has popped up, what's up? Oh. Dead rising in open world? Yes, it is, absolutely. You're in one mall. No, no, but there's multiple areas in that mall, and then you can leave that area and then walk over to the other area,

like it is big. Dead Rising One is a small zone type of game. Shut the fuck out. Shut the fuck out. I'm keeping on chat. Chat, let me know if Dead Rising is definitely an open world. I don't know enough about Dead Rising

to know it's an open world. I played a little bit of Dead Rising too. I got scared. Oh. Started running out of days. Are you going to play Dead Rising One with us? I got that one with us. I got it got me at the cops.

Started running out of days. I started running out days. I was like, I need that Zombex. I just too. I'll watch it. guys play it. Yeah, we're doing a 24-hour stream potentially. I'm good. I'm not doing all that.

Yeah, I mean, Cody Smith here says not an open-rolet. No shot. No shot. No. Furry B says Dead Rising is a very small open-world game. But it's an open-world game. It very much is. I wouldn't say one is open-road. Two and Upwood. Sure, fine. Give me two then. It's all the same stuff. Sure. Okay, I'll type down two. Dead Rising One is an open world, everybody. It was the Xbox 360 launch game. They didn't have much technology.

They couldn't figure it out. All right, it's my turn for special sauce. the fact that Nunya Ha-ha-Ga-on crackdown is crazy I thought about it again I like I love crackdown but once you become like I don't know too super powery sometimes I'm just like I kind of tune out like St. Throw 4 was the definition of that where I was like this is too much right now this is too much

I want the bases from Far Cry 3 that you can like take out people like you know like there'll be like the enemy bases or whatever that you find and you can use stealth to like take down one person at a time and you clear bases and I think that becomes like a fast travel point for you I want that. Don't you wish it was Melodyear Solid 5?

I do. I really wish. I like, originally I had it written down as MeloGrior Solid 5 and I was like, fuck, all right, that's off the board. Far Cry 3 we go. But like, Far Cry 3 is like, that introduced that system in a really good way. I don't think it was the first game to do that by any means. Are there any newer versions of it that take that system to the next level?

I've played Far Cry, what is the newest one? Six? It's the same shit. Yeah, I don't think far cry has changed that much. It's very much the same. Yeah. Honestly, like Meliger Salad 5 would have been the go-toe for me of like just how well in-depth they give you the tools for. Like I talked about earlier, the dynamic ways in which like the enemies will react and like put on night vision goggles because you're always coming on it coming out during the night and like have that type of stuff.

But I think Far Cry, if it's not broke, don't fix it. Put six just in case. Maybe there's like, I don't know. This is why I want more special sauces, man, because I'm also thinking about the Fulton system and how sick that is. Oh yeah. The Peecewalker Open Roll. think about that. Like,

I also have just the nostalgia for Far Cry 3. I'm sticking with Far Cry 3. Okay. Next up, mini game. What was that laugh? Yes, the evil ass lap.

Mini game. And this is the one where any game is back on the board now, right? It doesn't have to be, you can pick a game that's been chosen already. Oh.

We should try not to. Try not to? We should try not to, but if like we're really stuck, we can do it. I mean, I just like, can't think anything.

Wow. Okay. Because then I'm like, what games have fishing in them? That's where I said, and that's where I end up. Yeah. Sonic Frontiers, are we calling that zone? Are we calling that open world? It's a bad one, but it's a little.

Yeah, that's open world, I would say. Because, like, that's honestly the only mini games that's coming to mind is the fishing game from that. Is that what you want? Is that like your hard-in-art thing? Not really. Say what you want. Because what I want is Queen's Blood. I want Queen's Blood.

Did you just say it? Actually, you know what? This isn't going to make or break it. You know what hasn't been taken off the board? Is Yakuza? Yeah. Infinite wealth. Do it.

Which part? Which one? There's a lot of- There's a lot of shit there. He's challenging you, dog. There's a lot of shit there's challenging you. I really enjoy, there was like a crazy taxi mini-game in that? Or might think of something else?

Yeah, that's the, you're running around the bike and you're delivering food. I forgot the name of it, yeah. Was it fun, though? I'm going to be completely honest with you. It was fine. It was fun for the novelty, but it was very small, and it was extremely, it was extremely, extremely repetitive, but it's cool. It's a fun little time.

I'm surprised you haven't picked any yakuza thing. There's a reason why. Because those games suck. It's not open up. No, we're not doing this. We're not doing this. It is open world. I guess if I go yakuza,

I can actually pick one of like the classic games that Yakuza tends to have in it. Isn't there a yakuza that has Sonic fighters in it? Yeah, it does. No, I just want Queensblood. I'm getting Queensblood. We'll let you cheat. Oh, we established this at the beginning.

When we set the rules at the, top you made this thing. He makes the rules, breaks the rules, all that's happening. It really did just seem, though, that, like, I'm putting this category in there, and you could pick it again because I want Queen's Blood. That's the only reason

why that rule was made. No, fuck it. I'm putting down Sonic Fighters or whatever the fuck is called. Which one? I forget which. You got to pick the right one. If you don't get it, you can't go again. Okay, fine. I'm typing in. Here's a thing. Yaku's... No, it's in all of them. You can just say... No way the Sonic fighting is in all of it. It's in a... The

Modern ones, yeah. It's like, there's usually like a Sega arcade. Or you could just could just take the, the mini game for Biakusa, which is karaoke, which is everybody fucking loves. What if you just had the mini games

from this game? No, you have to pick one specific. Pick one. Is Donkown 64? No, here's my only argument for not doing, for going for the mini games

from whatever game you're selecting and picking multiples is it just feels like a weird design decision to have one mini game. Yeah, but I think that's so odd. The reason why is because

we would, just all be like, Yakuza Zero, Infinite wealth, you know what I mean? Because it's like, it haws everything, right? So it's like,

especially if you're making a game like this, I feel like you and I would just be like, but I feel like if I'm reviewing the game that Andy created today, I'd be like, it's kind of fucking weird. There's just like one thing and that's it.

Like it felt like, they're like the special mini game. You know what I mean? Like, Gwen, was the mini game in Witcher 3. Queen's Blood is the mini game in Final, oh, Final Fame 7 rebirth.

It's a lot of mini games. But like, I feel like, like, the, like, the, the minigame for your game. You know what I mean? I guess a lot of games have a lot of mini games.

I don't know what I'm saying anymore. But... You know, Queen's Club? Well, no, because we're saying no to that, right? We're saying, we want new games. I love this. I love this episode so much. I love us.

Because now I don't we want to go first anymore, because I have to have time to think. I feel pressured right now. You want me to go? No. Because you're going to pick something they don't want. You're going to pick some yaku's a bullshit. I mean, yeah, you know me.

But it's one thing from... Oh, it's GTA5 off the board. No. You fucking asshole. You fucking asshole. He tried it. He was going to be like, oh, let's get all the minigames. Because I wanted tennis and I wanted golf and I wanted all of it. What fucking mini game?

Do I want from GTA 5 right now? Do I want tennis? Do I want golf? You also have all the GTAs. Can I race? You have San Andreas. You have Vice City. I did like the racing a lot.

Oh, can I get bowling from GTA 4? You could. Bowling is actually really fun. You could have eaten food until you throw up from San Andreas. That was my favorite minigame. It's not a mini game. That's just the thing you did. It was a game mechanic.

It was a mini part of the game. Oh, man. We just opened up a fucking... Yeah, give me golf. I'll take golf from Gtta 5. Okay. Even though I wanted Queen's Blood, but it is what it is.

I'm going to go with gambling. And I specifically I say that because you go into a thing that's like a group of mini games. I mean, can I do that? I mean, it's in a gambling den. And there's five... It's like poker.

It's poker, it's blackjack. You pick one. You pick one. Fine, fine, everybody. Fuck it. Fucking close the door. Give me poker. And Yakuza Zero.

Specifically. Because I've played poker in other games. In Red Dev Red Dev Red Dev Red Dev Redemption, but I don't like the actual gameplay mechanics of playing poker in that. It doesn't have enough, like, visuals. Visuals in specifically, Yakuza Zero are really great. And I also, in my... game I want like an underground like gambling den like you walk into like some restaurant

and then you go underneath and it's like a little gambling done I'm making I'll give it to you I'm just explaining my game I thought we're making a game well we're asking for a minute yeah I'm asking for a mini game and you're like I want to go down to go down to an underground game blen I thought we're making the perfect overall rule I'm sorry I'm making a game here Andy what's your mini game I mean fuck out I'll squeeze blood fucking oh we know it's on the board we already had final face some reaper. I mean, he said it.

He said it, bro. The rules are all up there, man. He said it. Do whatever you want, man. If you think about it, the standalone Gwen game is an open world game. You're right.

You really think about it. You're right. That's not a mini game no longer than that game. Potentially is an open world game. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You already chose your wild card. So, yeah. Okay, for, for mini game, I will go with

man, I just don't give a shit about mini-game. games. So I'm gonna pick a kind of a random one. And I'm sure there's other better examples, but it's all I can think of right now because of recent see. When you're like flying through hoops in the sky Mario 64?

Like there's a bunch of different games that got that shit going on. But the one that I remember recently was from Rise of the Ronan. You walk up to a dude and you have your glider and you could like, you have to fly through all the rings challenge. You can do Arkham City. Don't give my ideas. I'm typing down, rise of the Ronan fly through rings.

Idiot. Superman 64. I want to fly through rings. I got my cool glider. I'm going to fly through shit. I thought my blackjack pick was nice. I was going to try to throw this out to you because someone in chat brought it up was Liar's Dice from Red Dead One.

That's a really fun minigame. Yeah. The other thing is you're going to be picked flying through fucking hopes. Look, in you all shitty games, you got to worry about mini games because you got nothing else going on. In my amazing game In my amazing game You don't even got

Like mini game is such an afterthought That in my game My game is so fucking fun You need to just gamble You know what I mean Just hang out with your hobbies Kind of relax a little bit True

In between you know Flying through tornadoes Because I got the tornadoes You put the tornadoes I'm not writing it down To tornado Poked in a tornado That's a good one

How kind of game This is Roger making over here I mean you want me to explain Or are you gonna come in off again So really quick for chat Who is watching right now in both Twitch and YouTube, I put the poll up,

which game do you want to play the most? If you all want to... And also, are we going to do... Oh, I think you also want to do like a Twitter... Oh, yeah, I'll do that later. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But just for the live ass, if you want to run through again really quickly.

Yeah, so running through it from the top. Again, each of us have made our own video games here. We'll start with Andy's. Andy's game has the location of Eldon Ring, the main story of Gosesushesushima, the side missions of Baldersgate 3, the characters and NPCs of Dragon Age Inquisition, the combat of live.

of P. The traversal of Zelda Breath of the Wild, the music of Skyrim. The special sauce being Dragon's Dogmat II's Pond System and the mini game being RISE the Rhone Fly Through Rings. You're minimizing the point I don't appreciate this, okay?

You said, you said fly through hoops, right? Yeah, but like, I don't know, I don't know. Like, you know, you use your glider to fly through things in the sky. The more, the more you do in a row. No, you can't add a glider to the whole System. I guess you do have a line. How can I type this in a way that will satisfy you? Should I add in the word glider?

Whoever's reading this, whatever the best game you're thinking of that is this. I need a specific game and he said Rise of the Ronen. Well, I mean, does Brother of the Wilde have something like that? I could have sworn it does. Well, brother laws off the table, so you can't really use that. Spider-Man. Does Spider-Man have that? Spider-Man.

Spider-Man was still on the table. Well, he's sweet. Well, Spider-Man 2 has the flying through things. But yeah, but he's looking for like actually getting points and stuff like that was just a boost you You walk up to somebody they're like hey you want to use your glider you fucking fly through the things you got extra points or whatever You got a cool this I'm not gonna lie that sounds exactly what I wrote down here Right the road and fly through all I'll put fly through rings with quieter. Yeah, there you go with glider That makes me happy. I like that so that's like Andy's a goat ass game dude

It is it was really good until you got to the ending That's a good It's a good thing this is good 9.9 out of 10. Okay, fucking death stranding story Get the fuck out of here. I get to deliver stuff. I get to deliver stuff. I love reading the review for an idea's game and the reviewer being like, it's a perfect video game.

Except this mini game is bullshit. It seems like they really didn't care about the one mini game. That's how Horizon Freeman West was when you got to play in Machine Strike or whatever. He's like, what the fuck is this here, man? You know, he just kill robots. Rogers game has the location of the division. The main story of Death Stranding, the side missions of Tears of the Kingdom,

the characters and NPCs of the Outer World, Or just outer worlds? I think this is out of world. I don't know. The combat of Meligeria Solid 5, Phantom Pain, the traversal of Just Cause 4, the music of Hotline Miami, the special slots being

Dead Rising 2's item interactivity, and the mini game being poker from Yakuza. From Yakuza Zero. Tornado poker. Tornado poker. Okay. Tornado poker.

My game's in New York. Donata poker. Why's all these tornadoes in New York? In the visions, New York, nonetheless. Because I'm adding to it, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then my game has the location of Red Dead Redemption 2. The main story of cyberpunk 2077, the side missions of The Witcher 3,

the characters and NPCs of Final Famces 7 rebirth, the combat of Sekiro, Shadows Die Twice, the traversal of Spider-Man 2, the music of Horizon Forbidden West, the special sauce being the Far Cry 3-style bases, and the minigame is golf. Yeah, the last two. From D.A.5. Wait, you didn't like the special sauce?

Yeah, you just had a golf in there, you know what I mean? Oh, yeah. It was golf. These are all incredible, actually. These are incredible games. People are voting for Andy. Yeah, for the straw polls in both the Twitch and YouTube chat. Right now in the YouTube chat, Andy is winning 68% of the poll.

This is bullshit. Yeah, that's bullshit. And then in the Twitch chat, Andy is winning 76% of the bowl with one minute left. You all? I mean, like the L, you leaving the Eldon Ring War. off the board. Crazy choice. You're right.

That's a crazy choice. But I thought these kids got mad when I talked about how like, you know, Red Red Red Red Redemption 2, you know, isn't the best game ever. And they're all like, oh, but it's the fucking goal.

Oh, you got to get more sophisticated. And now when I prop up bagel, when I'm not thinking it with modernity. When I prop up Red Dead Redemption 2 for you bitches, you don't want to vote for it.

Proving me correct. And you guys don't care about this fucking boring ass open-roof-world video. game. Listen, I don't mean to like rub it in your face, right? Like Twitch chat, you know, Andy's 77%. Roger, 19%. Blessing with 4%. You know what I mean? Like it's just people don't, people like the tornadoes. People like their tornadoes. What the fuck out of here? Love the tornado. People love a tornado. I want to read the results from the Twitter out of context replies. I want to hear the people who didn't even listen to the podcast. Yeah,

I have to think. I will say in the YouTube chat, uh, Rogers, uh, 70, uh, 70, uh, 70. Uh, 17% of the vote and blessing is 16% of the vote. So he's got a little bit more. Now it's 17, 17. Now both folks are going down. I'm ending the poll there since it's been 5 minutes. We're losing votes. People are taking the votes back.

Ladies gentlemen. I'm going to need you to find 10,000 votes. I was waiting for it. I was waiting for it. Of course, this has been your episode of kind of funny games cast for the day. But the live content doesn't stop there because after this, Nick, fossil fueling. He's playing fossil fuel.

Ancestors. What did you say? His ancestors. Oh, okay. Yeah. I'm kind of at the same way. Have you seen the TikTok game where people try to say the same word at the same time? Like they'll count down.

Let's do it right now. Three, two, one. Burrito. What did you say? Booy. I said burrito. That was close. Hey.

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