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Episode Date: February 3, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:07 What's up and welcome to the Kind of Funny Games cast for Monday, February 3rd, 2025. It means it's the day after Groundhog's Day. And I didn't hear any update about this little fucker. It's usually a weekday, right? He wouldn't do it on a Sunday. February 2nd, I don't know. Brownhogs, they don't, you don't get to choose the day based on what day of the week it is. Look at a long day, Bucks a Donne, Phil.
Starting point is 00:00:31 What's he up to you? You're looking? Five days ago, they have a USA today. Five days ago, that's fucked up. Oh, no, okay. And as AP says four hours ago. Okay. Tony Phil sees his shadow handler, say, predicting six more weeks of wintery weather.
Starting point is 00:00:43 Oh. And predicting they just don't report until Monday. And predicted six more weeks of it. Man. Well. Phil was welcomed with chance of Phil, Phil, Phil, Phil, and pulled from a hatch on a tree stump shortly after sunrise before a member of the Punks Anandi Groundhog Club read from a scroll, which boasted, quote, only I know you can't trust AI, end quote. Who's sorry? Who said that? That's what the scroll said. The scroll that they read from. Only I know.
Starting point is 00:01:11 Sounds like such a threat from this little fluffy guy. Here's what I'll say. Thank God Phil's getting fucking political. He was also like the nation's crumbling. Supreme Court for reform now. Of course, everyone, I'm Tim Gettys. I'm joined today by the big daddy himself. Gregville.
Starting point is 00:01:29 Hello, Tim. And rounding out the group, we have the Master of Hype Snowbike. Mike, it's Monday. So that means overalls, baby. Are we overall? Are we over all Mondays? Are we over today's Monday? You were the only one who ever did it. No, no, I'm over. Are we overall Monday? Can I just get, all I need is can I just get a Sunday night text? It's overalls tomorrow, Greg.
Starting point is 00:01:49 Or can you put on the calendar recurring? How about I take you, me and Nick? I own overall. And let's buy some new car hearts together. I'm not buying new car hearts. I barely, the ones I have are when I have to cosplay, like I know what I'm doing in the house. When I want to walk in a hardware store and act like I know something? Oh yeah. When you go and do it?
Starting point is 00:02:03 That's awesome. When I'm underneath the house and this fucking shit. box we bought trying to make sure you know what I mean why do you wear it like does it make you feel special or like do you actually use it as function function screwdrivers in there and tape measuring and shit like that's that's so funny to me I got all sorts of photos of me like like you and dad mode I mean like God no human being has went through as big of a change in their life as Greg Miller becoming a dad like you all of a sudden you look at him you're like oh yeah this guy goes on hikes this guy plays you know right I was hiking Jen was dragging me out on hiking yeah but it never
Starting point is 00:02:34 It doesn't look right. Now it's like you look at you and it always looks right. So yeah, seeing you and that, like seeing Mike in this, he doesn't look handy. You know what I mean? You look, you look kind of cool. You look like a 90s cool. Kind of. Thanks, you know, here comes Nick. Come on, Nick. Tell him Nick. You just got that dad look that you're just kind of like over everything. Yeah. Me? Yeah. Over everything. Yeah. So like I see you sometimes. You're just like a little disappointed with me. Oh, I'm always a little disappointed with you. Oh, perfect. Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:04 What's you looking for? I'm trying to find you a good, I want to find a representative overall. I mean, because I can see you in the overalls. Yeah, but you never see me working them. I yet, I haven't seen you with the screwdrivers. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I'm, yeah, exactly. I'm, yeah, exactly.
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Starting point is 00:03:55 State of Play on Kind of Funny Games Daily. A great episode, if I do say so myself. After this, the stream's going to be Mike Nick playing Streamer Life 2. You hyped on that, Mike? Streamer Life 2. So excited. This is the new simulation game that everybody,
Starting point is 00:04:08 everybody's talking about. You know what I mean? It's a competitive business now, Tim. Are they all talking about it? And now the question is, does Nick have the stuff to go out there and compete against some of the best streamers on planet Earth? We'll find out today.
Starting point is 00:04:20 We'll find out today. If you're a kind of funny member, you can get today's Gregway, which is Greg's Royal Rumble Stories. Hello. And you can get the kind of funny podcast this afternoon tomorrow on YouTube and podcast services. Rod, you brought that up.
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Starting point is 00:04:52 Today, we're brought to you by our frames, but we'll tell you all about that later. Let's get into it. The topic of the show. Tots, tons, tons, tons, tons, tons, tis. Civilization 7, we're reviewing it so far. Mike, you's been playing this. Of course, developed by Faraxis, publisher, 2K, release date, February 11th for the normal people out there, February 5th for the deluxe editions. Wow.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Mike, how much have you played of this? And what is your history with the Civilization series? Tim, I put 14 hours of gameplay in over the weekend, which comes out to about two games. Two incomplete games. I'm still fighting for my life in one of them. Code came in late for this one for you. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, unfortunately, Code came in a little late for me on this one.
Starting point is 00:05:34 But you know what? I said, I'm going to give you some time. Let's have some fun. And I got lost in it. That's my main thing is like, deep in it on Sunday. So many people have brought up the fact of like when you talk about being the SIV guy, the Sim guy, that doesn't strike them as, you know, a Snowike Mike game. So talk to me about that before we even get really going here. What is your history with Siv?
Starting point is 00:05:56 Why are you drawn to it? What do you like about it? Well, it starts off being an RTS guy growing up with. Warcraft 3, right? I've always loved real-time strategy games from StarCraft 64 into Warcraft 3 into VEG of Empires 2. And so there's like this passion of I love real-time strategy games. And that kind of evolved into more strategy games similar to XCOM too, which I'm a big fan of XCOM. And then of course, one of my best friends Washie loves Siv. So we kind of got us in to Siv a long time ago. And so I've just dabbled in. I've been more of a casual fan,
Starting point is 00:06:27 but like I like the game, but it also requires a lot, right? And we've loved, learn that we can't play multiplayer because we like to press the button go, go, go too much. So we can't play it together anymore. So you sit next to your show. I wish. I wish. So yeah, I put in a lot of time. It was surprising.
Starting point is 00:06:44 I put in two hours on Saturday just to kind of dip my toe, see the feeling. And then on Sunday, boom, 12 hours later. I was like, man, I got to get out of this room. It smells kind of funky. That's how hard I win on this. And yeah, just kind of dove right into it. I had so much fun. Some fun ones for you.
Starting point is 00:07:00 You know, the first Siv was 1991. Wow. Isn't that crazy to think about? And to, yeah, see it live and in person now. It's like, man, this game has come a long way and it looks great. And so, yeah, over my 12 hours, I have two really good games going on, one where I am going for the dominant all-out war win. And then the other, I decided to change it up and go for the cultural win. So I'm spreading religion.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Let me stop you here. Because Civ 7, of course, making a lot of headlines announced me because it's the first that's going to launch on PC and console simultaneously, rather than SIV 6, which had a break in there, yaddy, yadda. So I do feel that, like, for a lot of gamescast people, they might not know what SIV actually is. Oh. Can you give a top level of what SIV is and what you're doing in Sib?
Starting point is 00:07:48 Siv is a 4X strategy game built on a bunch of tiles similar to what you would see with Settlers of Kattan, or maybe if you played XCOM, you kind of know the squares that you move upon. But 4X is explore, expand, exploit and exterminate are your options there that you'll go through. Of course, you'll explore this vast map. And Siv is kind of based in reality where you are rewriting your own history of the Earth. And so it's really cool.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Like you'll see the touchstones of actual, you know, planet Earth from different geological areas, different, you know, cities and states that you might recognize and different, you know, wonders of the world that you'll pass by. And so you get to kind of write your own history book here throughout the different ages. And so seven, seven is broke down into three ages this time. The antiquity age, the exploration age, and the modern age. And these are kind of just periods of the game that you'll play. So you'll start off in antiquity, which is like, hey, you're settling down with your first civilization,
Starting point is 00:08:47 your first city, you're going to expand maybe a couple more cities. You're going to start to meet others with your scouts. You're going to start to build warriors and people with bows, right? And then of course, we're moving to the modern age at the very end where It's like now I have tanks and I have riflemen. All of a sudden I have a plane, right? So like that's where we'll get to as we start writing our own history. And throughout history, you'll meet other civilizations, other players, whether it be AIs or other players that you're playing with the multiplayer game,
Starting point is 00:09:14 which is you will kind of maybe make alliances or maybe you'll start to trade with them or maybe you'll get into fights with them like I do. And so it's really how you want your own history to be told through this. And what I enjoyed with SIV 7 is in between each period, you kind of have your chance to realign with what you want. Are you militaristic? Are you going for the cultural win? Are you maybe pushing more different diplomacy values?
Starting point is 00:09:43 And so at the end of every period, you'll get to kind of realign who do I want to be? Where do I want to go? But we'll talk about that a little more as I get deeper into this. Can you explain that a little bit? What's a cultural win? A cultural win is where you spread religion around the globe. And so you have four ways to win, cultural, military, science, and economic.
Starting point is 00:10:01 They all have their own touchstones and milestones that you have to achieve throughout. And then at the very end, you can win through a number of ways. Do you have to kind of choose one path to go down? Or can you kind of like try for two at the same time? You're going to blend a couple of them with some of them. But most of the time, you're probably going to want to focus on one, especially if you're a beginner player, you probably want to focus on one, see how that plays out and then learn how to kind of open up that funnel and grab more
Starting point is 00:10:27 as you go. Like for me right now, doing the cultural, right, they probably want me at the end of it to have a little more touchstones into some other ones, right? So I'm looking for world treasures to try to add on to stat, to add on to my stats. So between every age, they'll show you like, hey, this is where you're kind of at right now. Like, you're winning in this area. You're winning in that area. You're losing here. And you're like, okay, well, I'm not going for like a military thing. So like, of course I'm losing there. Or, yeah, I'm not exploring that much. I can see why I'm down on this side. And So you have different things that you can add on to throughout your different ages to win. Can we talk about ages for a second?
Starting point is 00:11:04 Yeah. This, of course, and I should point out, I did the PACs panel for Civ 7. Yes, yes. I killed it. Of course, you know what I mean? Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? But of course, the big thing they wanted to talk about there was Ages.
Starting point is 00:11:15 This is the new thing for Civ 7. The idea they talked about at that point, which I had not played, I don't think previews were out yet. It was the idea that ages allowed a more free-form. siv. Before you choose who you're going to be and you're locked in all the way, it's going to be, you know, you can explain it better than me, but you're locked into whoever you're picking. Whereas with these three ages, in between the ages, you get to make certain choices that then make it no longer strictly historical for what it would have been before. Yeah. So that's the fun part. So you kind of roll back to the clock here to the beginning. When you first down and
Starting point is 00:11:51 when you first sit down in front of your computer or console now to play Siv. We should point out, you played on PC's console or codes one of it. Yeah, pretty wild that console, of course, is what they're promoting, but I didn't play it on that. Also, Steam Deck. Steam Deck verified. Didn't check it out on Steam Deck, so I can't give you the update on that. But it is cool to see it going everywhere. I think that's the goal, of course, and to try to get players anywhere they want to play.
Starting point is 00:12:12 But when you first sit down, you have another number of options. But you're going to click on new game where you will be prompted to pick, of course, who is your civilization leader? And what is that civilization kind of based off of, right? So you have people like Benjamin Franklin, Catherine the Great, you know, Augustus. So you'll kind of look at, hey, who do I align with? What are some of their starting stuff that kind of lines up with me?
Starting point is 00:12:34 Do they get more gold? When they build military stuff? Do they get, you know, starting their hero or like kind of their, I don't want to call it. Yeah, we'll call it a hero unit for right now, but I'll go into better explanations. Their hero unit gets three free skill points right off the start when you jump into them. And then after that, you'll get into, hey, where do you want to start? You don't have to start from the beginning, the first era. which is that antiquity era,
Starting point is 00:12:58 you can go straight into modern era to shorten up the game. And then, of course, what do you want to base your civilization off of? So they have different civilizations from all of time, different areas of the globe that might align with what you want to do.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Are you looking for culture? Are you looking to be militaristic? Do you want to maybe be more on the economic side? So you'll kind of blend the civilization with your leader together to try to determine where you want to start your game. And so, as I said, you'll start off with the three ages,
Starting point is 00:13:25 Greg, as you brought up, is when you first start, you will be kind of going towards that. They give you a really good job of four different advisors. So you can choose from the advisors I talk about, economics, science, military, and culture right off the start. And they'll give you kind of missions and a guideline to follow. So for me, if I wanted to do culture, it says, hey, you need to make four different cultural landmarks.
Starting point is 00:13:49 You need to have four relics inside of those. And so you kind of know, oh, this is what I want to be going for. so I know what I want to do to win, right? When I went with military, it was like, hey, you need to take over a settlement that's not yours. And so you kind of know, hey, this is what I should be following, where I should go. And then at the end of the age, it says, hey, we're about to hit the transitional period,
Starting point is 00:14:09 get ready. A number of your units aren't going to come with you, right? As we kind of transitioned here, some units will be upgraded and they'll carry forward. Some won't. And so when you hit it, everything stops. You could be in the middle of a war. And when you come out of it, no, we've kind of reset the board. And so when you're in that middle period, you have this moment of, hey, I've been really enjoying what I've been doing with Augusta and whatever country I chose.
Starting point is 00:14:35 Now I want to switch that. And it kind of gives you everything that you could be, but then it locks out things that you aren't doing. So they'll kind of give you probably three to maybe five options of, hey, these cultures here in this next round that you do can be militaristic and cultural. They can be economic and cultural. they give you two options of each and they kind of set the tone of, hey, this is where you're going to go next if you want to be that.
Starting point is 00:15:00 So you have the opportunity to jump ship and try something different. You have the opportunity to keep going. And also, you're kind of rewriting history as you brought up of, now this civilization that was known as the Romans, right, for what they were doing. Well, all of a sudden, they're doing this
Starting point is 00:15:13 completely different, which makes SIV fun. It's your own story. So I want to jump into that. Do you like that? That was a big change that I know the hardcore Siv community was like pushing pole on. As a casual player, I like that because it felt like a check-in. It felt like, hey, do you like what you're doing?
Starting point is 00:15:30 Oh, would you like to change that up? And also, it felt a little more fun and freeing to me as the casual player of, oh, this is cool. I get to pick a totally different civilization now and kind of change up what the look is, what the vibe is. I like that a lot for myself. Okay, fair enough. I want to read some of the reviews right now because the game's currently at 81 on Metacritic.
Starting point is 00:15:50 And some of the big sides aren't necessarily feeling it here. Eurogamer's Sin Vega gave it a two out of five stars saying Siv7's by no means a bad game. I open with that to acknowledge its competence and to damn it. Siv is the archetypal for X and in some sense Siv 7 remains a standard bearer. It's better in a general sort of way than most recent attempts to unseat or deconstruct it. There's lots going on. Production values are high and innovates with a new structure and revamp diplomacy, city expansion and more. But it's dull.
Starting point is 00:16:19 Even some of its most flawed challengers are far more interesting. At times when I hit a stretch of just one more turn, it felt less like an in-joke than a curse. The most immediate changes are to the formula of take historical culture from an ancient village to modern world domination itself. Your choice of leaders now untethered from the historical place, a full game is divided into three ages that require you to choose a new culture, with bonuses less numerical and more specific than in humankind. Each age partly resets foreign relations, trade, reserves, and building effects. They downgrade cities into towns, themselves a new feature. Newly founded settlements can only buy, not build a limited set of buildings, but grow faster and can halt that growth to become specialized tributaries instead of cities.
Starting point is 00:17:02 And IGN's Lena Hafer gave it a seven, saying Siv Seven's improved warfare and added bits of narrative flare, give me reasons to keep clicking one more turn late into the night. But the desire to streamline and simplify this legendary 4x series feels like it has also gone a bit too far, particularly when it comes to the interface. Mike, what's your reaction to hearing this based on your 14 hours of playing? Have your 14 hours been dull? My 14 hours have not been dull.
Starting point is 00:17:28 I did read Lena's over on IGNs, and I see what they're talking about, and I actually, I click with it as a casual player. They definitely identified like, hey, it felt like there's a lot coming at you and nothing explaining anything, right? I, back in the day with Washington had to watch, he had to watch a lot of YouTube videos,
Starting point is 00:17:45 really had to get into it of like every moment I would move a mouse, I would be trying to read the screen. On this, there didn't feel like there was any tutorials. I really thought there was going to be a single player hold your hand. And like, there's a tutorial, but it's not like a tutorial that you would want in a game like this where it really explains everything. And so I really identified with that of like the explanation, yeah, you're probably going to be looking stuff up. You're going to be looking around the screen going, where is this being shown here?
Starting point is 00:18:12 Because there was moments where I was like, I usually would know, hey, this production sign, I can tell where that's being held at. I have no idea where that's on the screen. I don't know what to do next. And so luckily I had a little base knowledge on what I was doing. But for me, I never felt like the games were boring because I kind of play SIV much different than most people. I like to play it like risk, right? We're like, my goal is to dominate and go out there.
Starting point is 00:18:35 So I am always starting a tussle with someone. I am trying to take over different zones. So my game of SIV is usually much different than most people's. That's why I switched on the final game to more. of a cultural one to see how that is. And that does kind of get a little tedious and boring. Because what you're doing is, is you are at your home base is creating this unit
Starting point is 00:18:56 that is going to go out and spread the word of your religion. So essentially what I'm doing is I just take that unit, send it to some other civilizations town, and I press a button, and they go, ooh, and then the religion is spread. And so I have to do that on all the different parts of the map. I'm sorry, real quick, what do they do again? Ooh.
Starting point is 00:19:12 Thank you. So they're spreading religion to all. the different parts of the map. So I'm flying over on this side, on that side, trying to get everyone while also finding different historical pieces of the land that will add to relics that I need. But really, you're just sending units over to different pieces and pressing, woo, and that's all they do. And so that is boring, right? So for me, when on the military side, now I'm trying to find strategic places to put my units. I'm trying to find chokeholds within the environment for you to bring your units through. But that's only one fourth of the game,
Starting point is 00:19:44 right? There's a lot other ways to play. So I can see. see that. I was blown away by the theme and the soundtrack and the sound design, Tim. Holy cow. The moment you turn this on, a big shout out to the composer. I had to write it down here. Christopher 10. Christopher 10. Tim, you know I'm a sucker because I don't know music that well, but man, when someone like a Gareth Coco gets put into my life, this person right here, Christopher Tim, you're on my list now. First Grammy ever won by a video game song. The music in this game is unbelievable. This game Civilization is a
Starting point is 00:20:16 turn on a podcast, watch a TV show, and the background type stuff. Is it? I played 12 straight hours of this game and never once turned down the music. That's how good this is. Every single time from different cultures, different pieces of the world, it's just hitting you and every time
Starting point is 00:20:32 age will change and whatever you're doing will change. And the sound design when you're in those military fights and you're putting different rifle men and cannons, you can feel it I got to give a big shout out to the sound design, the composer, which was great with the music. The look of the game continues to look great, right?
Starting point is 00:20:51 Siv isn't a bad looking game if you look at Siv 5 and Siv 6, right? But like, they continue to make it look better and better every time you scroll in and zoom in on your little city and see the big pillars that you put up there and you go, oh yeah, that's cute. Is it get cluttered and insane? Yes, because you try to put two things in one and I'm jamming up the amplification. jamming up the Roman Coliseum next to some sort of Mayan temple. And you're like, Mike, that doesn't look right.
Starting point is 00:21:18 But I'm going for the cultural win. So I need all these big cultural touchdowns. You got to have these touchdowns. So yeah, for me, I really enjoyed my time with it. I look forward to playing it again. But I see the reviews. A lot of people talked about streamlining it and kind of making it just this. I wouldn't call it bare bones.
Starting point is 00:21:34 But like, we're just trying to get you into it and get you moving straightforward and maybe make it a little snappier and faster than what other Siv fans would like. so I would encourage you if you are a big Siv diehard to go find those diehard Sib fans and see what they say. But for me as the casual fan, I liked the speed. I liked it the way it was going. Of course, mind you, when you start Tim, like I brought up, you look at the starting screen, you're going to get deep into, hey, how fast is the gameplay go?
Starting point is 00:22:00 What are the different maps that I want to choose from? I encourage you to change those sliders every single time you play to try to adjust, right? I had to go from the normal speed, which was taking way too long to online speed, which is going at a much faster rate to keep these games going and moving and progressing them. I mean, we're talking hundreds upon hundreds of turns that you will play in this game in just one game. And you can go from a six-hour game to maybe a four-hour game if you're really moving.
Starting point is 00:22:28 But for me, I was lost in like six-plus hour games on both of these. Wow. So you didn't get to play on console, but this being the first day-and-date PC console version, of a franchise. Can I stop you too? Yes, you can. Did you play the other ones on console, even though they were late?
Starting point is 00:22:43 Did you ever keep the tires on them? Okay, thank you. Yep. So looking at Siv, obviously it is a PC first game when we look at the IP historically. Some of them have had console entries after this being a big coming out party for them of like,
Starting point is 00:22:56 yo, we're trying to find success here. We've seen other similar games find a level of success, things like Halo Wars on the console side. Do you think from the gameplay that you've experienced so far of Siv, do you think that it's going to work as a console game? 100%. Yeah, yeah, because I think of games like Gears Tactics.
Starting point is 00:23:14 I think of XCOM. Of course, you bring up Age of Empires. I think Age of Empires is a much faster RTS in the managing of units, the economics, to just moment to moment gameplay. This is very much a turn-based game where you will take your turn. You will you move your units at your own pace
Starting point is 00:23:32 while not worrying like, oh, is Greg going to hit me right now and I'm not prepared? So I definitely think you have, the time that it takes on the controller in gamepad to slow it down and be able to do that. And I don't think any of the button inputs would go on to the controller and be like, oh, this is impossible. No, it's very, very much a point and click.
Starting point is 00:23:50 There's nothing past that, which is nice. And then my last question here on SIV is, do you think that SIV 7 is doing what it needs to do as a sequel? Or is this just another SIV? As a casual player, this is just another Siv to me. but it's a little more of a straightforward SIV. I think they're hiding a lot of the, when I played SIV 6 and SIV 5,
Starting point is 00:24:14 I think they're hiding a lot of those mechanics beyond, like, pass just a facade of, oh, this is just straightforward as we talked about with that IGN. I think they're all there. It's just like they're not being shown and you're kind of not recognizing it. I think a lot of people bring up of like, they're going to refine this with game updates and DLC
Starting point is 00:24:30 and we'll see where it is in a year from now, right? But for me, as of right now, I liked what I got. I was enjoying it. I liked it. It felt more straightforward to me. Are you going to continue playing it? Yeah, I want to finish up my two wins. So I want to spread my religion.
Starting point is 00:24:46 I chose Buddhism. You can create your own religion, Tim. But I wasn't smart enough off the rim to choose what I wanted to name it. So I was like, ah, you know what? Buddhism, it is. So I'll spread that. You don't have a snow bike micro religion ready ago? I didn't have something.
Starting point is 00:24:58 I should have got, yeah, Steeze, something like that. Yeah, something like that. Earl of Squirrel. You all worship Earl of Steezez around the world. And then I want to go back to my, I want to go back to my military one because I was fighting a hundred year warrior you to. This game was nuts, right?
Starting point is 00:25:16 So I team up with the team in red next to me. And mind you, we're on one continent. This map is massive, everybody. That's why I encourage you to mess with the game sliders because you might think you see it all. This map, you're going to have to get on boats. You're going to have to go explore other continents because there's a bunch of other players on here, right?
Starting point is 00:25:35 so me and red team up mind you they didn't help me at all i've been a hundred years come on help any military help we didn't really talk about the uh politics and how you now have influence and you can talk with every single one and spend influence points instead of the previous way we'll get into that but there i was fighting this war and so i'm like okay i'm going to identify one i'm going to go after you because i want to dominate and so i go and dominate yellow and now i move on to green and green has me on two different sides they got me on the east and they got me on the north my My biggest building is in the north, my capital city. But then I started taking things to the south.
Starting point is 00:26:09 So I had them on the east side. It was like, how do I play this out? So I lined up all these units. Tim, I'm talking so many points, so many turns. Real Siv players would have been like, you've wasted so much. And I said, no, I'm going to get this. And so I line up all my units to the north, right, Tim? And so then on the east, I've gone down to the southeast side.
Starting point is 00:26:30 But I didn't, I didn't see the map. I didn't see it was this tight little area with a right. on the coast and a mountain. So the bottleneck is too tight for me to really send units up. Of course. So I start my dual threat of, I'm going to hit you from the south to the north and from the south to the east here and see what happens.
Starting point is 00:26:46 And I send all these units. And I'm fighting this war, right? And so I start to win the north. But uh-oh, I didn't know. Now Harriet Tubman out of nowhere comes. And she goes, Harriet, no! You can't start this war.
Starting point is 00:26:59 And then another person I've never seen, he's like, you can't start this war. So now I've got three on one, right? And they're sending units in. from the oceans. And I'm like, oh, no. They're going in for the coastline. Who would have thought Harriet Tubman?
Starting point is 00:27:10 We want to stop Mike. All of a sudden, I'm fighting south to the north. I got people coming up from me on the coastline from the east. I can't stop them. So I've taken two out of the three major cities on the north, but I can't take the final city. Then on the south, I'm just getting dominated in the south. So I'm like, that doesn't work.
Starting point is 00:27:25 So I said, restart. That was an hour and a half. Mind you, that was an hour and a half. So I run it back. I go, okay. I'm going to focus only on the north. They can send stuff. up from the south. I'm fighting the north. They start sending people up from the south.
Starting point is 00:27:39 They're now taking one of my cities. I'm like, no, you can't do that. Restart again. So now I go only everything up on the north. No wonder you haven't finished either game. Just fucking let go. I set a barricade up on the southern city. I say, surely they won't get me this time. So I start invading. They, instead of coming from the east to the north, they go from the south to my southern one. And I'm like, I didn't put any units there. Restart again. I'm in a hundred year war. I'm in a hundred year war right now. I'm battling for my life. Oh, no. It's a good time. I really enjoyed it. I won't put a number on it. But yeah, I think of it's too early for sure. I've always wanted to love SIV. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:28:18 It's funny that I host the panel because that was the second thing every day. I went to Maryland forever ago, 2015 to do SIV 6. To do SIV 6 videos and stuff. And I love talking developers of any kind about their video game. That's always exciting. But I've never been able to actually click with it. And so even though two of the big reviews, you know, two of the big reviews, views are turned off by the streamlined nature of it. I'm hoping that'll work for me. Because I am the guy of like, oh man, I come home in like a hundred turn game and all this other stuff.
Starting point is 00:28:44 But I love SimCity, but that's not what this is. But I do. It's like, I don't know. I hope I vibe with this one, but I'm never sure. I've never been able to make it click, Mike. But again, I'm hoping Steam Deck versions, the portability of it, consoles, maybe that'll change it for me. I would encourage anyone that tries it.
Starting point is 00:28:57 Just remember you can always save and come back. You don't have to complete the game in one city. Of course, of course. And so it is a very long game. I think it is a game that. you have to put focus into you need to understand what you are doing. And I think they did a really good job with these advisors throughout that you can kind of choose which way you want to win.
Starting point is 00:29:15 And the advisors will kind of try to keep you on track on the top left of the screen of like, hey, here's your goal. Why don't you focus on that? Because it's easy to kind of get lost in. Hey, I'm setting a scout along all these continents and I'm looking. Or I'm expanding all these cities, which is great, but I'm not going after my goal. So like try to stay focused on that. It is a game that needs your focus.
Starting point is 00:29:35 And that's the thing with me, why I think it's never worked before. And this age's thing, while off-putting to some people, I think, might work for me of like, all right, so I just start it in the modern age, right? Let's just jump there way shorter because, like, the focus part of me will never exist, right? Yeah. I'm going to play it for two nights. Then some of the review code is going to come in. I'll come back three weeks later and be like, I don't know what the hell was doing.
Starting point is 00:29:53 So I feel like maybe if I can knock them out. That's a good idea. Yeah, it is cool that you can start at any age and kind of just jump right in. So if you want to jump directly into the modern age, kind of that late game and see where it goes for you. It's a good time. Tyler Pate Super Chats in, and I can't put my finger on it, but Sib 7 feels like the one
Starting point is 00:30:09 that will truly break out. I can't wait to use the Switch mouse. Keep an eye out. We'll see, right? Like we talked about, a lot of people love the updates, the DLCs throughout the lifespan of these games. So I think that's where they're kind of get the players
Starting point is 00:30:23 of those hardcore audiences back of like, hey, we've heard you. This is where we're going to go after. We'll get you back here. We'll see. Any final thoughts on Siv? Go play it. I really enjoyed it.
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Starting point is 00:31:46 Terms and conditions apply. And we are back for some Kingdom Come to Deliverance Two thoughts here, developed by War Horse Studios, releasing on February 4th. It's currently at an 87 on MadCritic. PC gamers Joshua Wollins gave it a 90. saying this game feels a bit miraculous, a ludicrously ambitious and peculiar thing
Starting point is 00:32:10 that somehow fulfills its ambition in peculiarity, managing to hit the highs war horse aimed for in the first game, but perhaps fell just shorter. It feels tailor-made for a certain brand of systems-loving Sicko, the kind of person who still gets starry-eyed about stalker and Morowin, and manages to actually make good on their, or at least my, nostalgic girting for those Halsian games of old. Game spots, these riders, I swear to God,
Starting point is 00:32:34 They just be like dropping bigger and bigger words these days. Let's just say when he's talking about being a specific kind of sicko, this is how these sickos talk. They're not out there in the streets like you mean. They're not saying they're not eating. They ain't eaten. And then GameSpot's Richard Wakeling gave it a nine saying it's not perfect with the codex still needlessly describing the ideal woman of the time as a thin pale woman with long blonde hair, small rounded breasts, relatively narrow hips and a narrow waist. What a quote. And while there's a character hailing from Molly Kootenberg is.
Starting point is 00:33:04 also conspicuous for its scarcity of people of color, despite being a major trading city, you would expect a small population of merchants from places like the Middle East, North Africa, to exist within its market stalls, so they're notable for their absence. While Kingdom Come Deliverance II still stumbles in some aspects of its portrayal of 15th century Bohemia, the shadow that lingered over the first game
Starting point is 00:33:22 has mostly dissipated. This is a massively improved sequel in every other area with better Kong map, quest design, and none of the technical issues that plagued the original. Not everyone will vibe with its slow-paced and oftentimes tedious approach, but those willing to meet it on its own terms will find a compelling open world RPG
Starting point is 00:33:38 that relishes in player agency and the consequences of your actions. And then Eurogamer's Catherine Castle gave it a three out of five saying this gorgeous medieval RPG continues to be just as divisive, prickly, and abrasive as its predecessor. Mike, Greg, both of you
Starting point is 00:33:53 have played a little bit of this game. Who has played more? Mikey. Yeah, I put it in three hours. You know, me and Greg talked a little bit after that first hour, and I kind of gave him the face like, ooh, that's a real slow start there, Gregie. That was tough to get through. But once I broke through that, the story is what grabbed me, Tim.
Starting point is 00:34:12 And that's, I was surprised that I was going to say that because I was looking for more of a chivalry two type of approach. I'm chopping people's limbs off. It's just mayhem at all time. But it felt a lot, I mean, it is a lot slower. The moment you jump in, you're going to see it's a much slower approach than something like that. And the story is what grabbed me.
Starting point is 00:34:30 And so I was happy that I kind of. push past that initial hour. And I would even say it goes past the initial hour. It's probably like the first two hours. They really set up the gameplay moment. They set up the gameplay. They show you the kind of the mechanics of how you're going to fight, what the world's going to be,
Starting point is 00:34:44 and then you get off and running. But man, oh man, I enjoyed the two characters. I liked the back and forth between these guys. Two bros. Just, you know, telling some fun. And I'm looking forward to seeing where it goes. But yeah, my first three hours was that. Yeah, I put one hour in.
Starting point is 00:34:58 And it was strictly one of those. Oh, this review. code's coming tomorrow. I just finished this thing and I got this. I know Mike's going to play and he got derailed by Siv. So I jumped in that first night and I was, I think my main problem was just being tired. Yeah. I jumped in and this is not a let it wash over you game. Like you need to be dialed in. You need to be paying attention. And so I was in the same, I'm, I think it's a slow start. Not that that's bad, especially for this gigantic RPG. It's going to be common. All a spiraling thing. But for me, Tim, what it was is like, okay, interesting dynamics between these characters,
Starting point is 00:35:28 narrative first, which you know I'm a big fan of. But then, and like, they give you a section to play right away, getting the feel of it, throwing ladders off of the time they're attacking us, doing all this, using my sword and my shield. Okay, cool. I can get behind this. I can get behind this. And then it was when we got to camp and they were like, this is so early, obviously,
Starting point is 00:35:44 but they're like, hey, all right, cool. Now put on all your stuff. And it literally speaks, I think, specifically to Joshua from PC gamers. It feels Taylor made to a certain brand of systems loving sickos. Where it threw up my inventory and it was like, put on your thing, but you got to put on the undercoat to put on the other. And I'm like, you know what? I'm tired.
Starting point is 00:36:02 And I'm shutting this down. And Avad will be here momentarily. And I know that I, reviewing that RPG, I'm going to not get deep into this one. My hope is especially with these scores, I come back now when there is a moving spot. I'm like, okay, cool. Let's go in. Because this was fun. This combat was fun.
Starting point is 00:36:17 And I want to see more of that. And I want to see the choices they're talking about. I do love that idea. And I don't mind a slow build and burn to it. It was just that one night where I had the free time where I was like, this is not what I need right now. Yeah, I guess I used the term slow at the beginning because it isn't just a kind of Skyrim adventure.
Starting point is 00:36:35 It's like, okay, you're free, go figure it out. It is very much of like... And this is my thing coming off of the Avowed Preview I've talked about, right? Where the Avod preview literally is like, create your character. And they're like, cool, the emperor has sent you out there to do this thing and figure out the dream scourge. We'll see you later. And like you're right into stuff.
Starting point is 00:36:49 Whereas this one wasn't, it was like, do this. Now ride your horse. Now you're here, but you're in camp and you're talking to this guy. Yeah. Put five pieces of armor. Let me show you what we're going to... let me teach you everything right now that you're going to experience. So all of a sudden you're in a dice game with the guy.
Starting point is 00:37:02 And it's like the dice is the slowest moving game that you've ever experienced. And you're like, all right, man, like get me back out there. We just experienced the battle. Let's do that again. And it was very much of like, hold up. Like we got a lot to show you here. Let's jump into the menu. Let me explain to you that you have to put your cap on first and then put on your
Starting point is 00:37:19 medieval helmet over it because, you know, you might get CTE when they rattle your brain. It was like some fun moments like that. We were like, all right, just get. me through it, but then like, you take a deep breath, you're like, all right, understand what you're trying to get at. You really want to make this deep. I'm in for it. And then, yeah, you get caught up in the story of these two, just kind of having some fun.
Starting point is 00:37:37 We're on an adventure. You know, somebody stole my special message that my dad sent me to go give to another king and now we got to get out there. And of course, a couple of dudes. Look at these bros right here. These are my bros. Hey, we, you know, it's our first day at camp. I want to go in the water and take a bath.
Starting point is 00:37:53 And the older homies like, hey, man, like you don't got to do that. We just started. let's say, he's like, get the wine, let's do it. And then of course, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:01 things happen. So yeah, I'm interested in this. I've really enjoyed passed out of like continuing to build up these two characters, their backgrounds, where we're going to go.
Starting point is 00:38:12 And so yeah, I'm looking forward to it. The combat is interesting, right? It's like this mix of almost for honor where you choose a limb, where you're choosing, like,
Starting point is 00:38:20 which way to go from left or right or forward and like you're kind of reading where they're at defending. It's an interesting blend here that I think slows down just a normal Skyrim Hackens Slash. And the chat was talking about it being an immersive sim, a medieval sim, and I do think that's what's going to stop me
Starting point is 00:38:35 from really progressing in it, is that I love a good RPG, I love a good Western RPG, but I want to be, like the avowed I have powers, I'm doing this, are more exciting to me than a perfect block or guessing where he's going, da-da-da. Like, again, I want to get back, I want to try it, I want to do the thing,
Starting point is 00:38:51 I'm not throwing the baby out of the bathwater here, but I do think when I look at it, I'm like, I think this is going to be similar what we're talking about Siv to a degree of like this is going to be a slow burn and you're going to need to be focused. And I think focus is such a struggle for me where as you'll see the games I've been playing what I have coming up. Yeah, I think that's what's getting me excited is I am ready to try something a little bit different, Tim, than the normal sky rim, hey, here's all the power in the world.
Starting point is 00:39:14 What if we make it more grounded, right? I've always wanted a game of throne story now that I wrote that high of Game of Thrones. It's like, all right, just give me the true medieval stuff and let's, we can cut the magic. Let's see what happens here. and so yeah, I'm looking forward to ride it on this one. I think I'm going to see this one through. Gator mashed potato writes in. What a name.
Starting point is 00:39:33 It's so good. Come on. Exactly. Kingdom come deliverance is one of the most immersive games I've ever played. Once it gets its hooks in you, it's hard to go back to other open world games. I'm so excited for two. And I saw a couple of similar sentiments in the chat going as well of people saying that like once you play the first game through, it makes you look at like Skyerman, that stuff so differently.
Starting point is 00:39:54 Mike, do you see yourself going? back and like completing this or is this something? Yeah, this is the one I want to complete. Yeah. Well, as of right now, I want to put at least another 10 hours plus into this and see where it goes. But the story so far has got me where it's like, oh, I do want
Starting point is 00:40:08 to try this out. We have a vowed as well. Like I'll jump into that eventually, so I'm excited to see that. But yeah, it's kind of this interesting blend of we're getting hit with a bunch of games now. And so now you kind of play the game of what am I putting my attention into? But this one did grab me where I do want to play
Starting point is 00:40:23 more of it. Love that. Timothy, what have you been playing? Dude, Ninja Guide and Black, too. Are you kidding me? It's just, I can't believe that we're getting four, right? Getting that Xbox developer direct last week was awesome, like so many exciting things to look forward to on the Xbox side. But Ninja Guide and Four, I have all eyes on at this point.
Starting point is 00:40:45 Because I think that we often talk about what's the right strategy? If you're putting out a sequel to a franchise that hasn't seen any action in a while, how are we going to get the people excited? You don't want to like overdo it by like putting out every single game like months before it comes out because people kind of burn out on it, right? But I think that the strategy of announcing that later this year we're getting for, but shadow drop today you get to play an example of why this franchise matters in an updated version. I think it was kind of just like the perfect once you punch, right?
Starting point is 00:41:16 And everyone being able to immediately jump into this, if you have game pass, it's available for you. I've been playing on PlayStation 5. and man, it's just a joy to go back to this style of game and it's funny because, you know, Ninja Guy and always used to be way too hard for me. It was like, I'm a devil-may-cry guy, right? Delmake cry is a perfect example of a game
Starting point is 00:41:37 that has a very high skill ceiling to master it, but a very, very low barrier of entry to be able to enjoy it and just button-mash and have a lot of fun. And I feel like it is that flexibility of the combat and chaining things together and all the different weapons. that allow those games to be so much fun.
Starting point is 00:41:55 Ninja Guyon was, let's take that, but really refine it and like, you need to be good. You need to really think about what you're doing. And the era we're in now of like Souls games taking that and like completely changing it, making it, I think even a lot more strategic than all out offensive action, right? Going back to this, I'm like, oh man,
Starting point is 00:42:14 I somehow feel like I've gotten better. Like I think that it's like playing this game. It's like it's still difficult, but it's like it's a lot more enjoyable. I feel like just, gamer sensibilities have matured to a place that playing through this like you just feel like a badass jump and dismembering people left and right um it is an old game the camera it does not hold up i think that it uh fights against you more often than not there's certain um button layout things
Starting point is 00:42:39 that i've been having some issues with and uh i feel like if they just let you customize a bit more it would go a long way but everything is there it's just not quite perfect like the lock on is a little bit weird um and when the camera's such an issue i feel like that is not ideal, but I play this and I just constantly like, oh man, Ninja Guide 4 is going to kick fucking ass. Like they're going to solve all of those issues and the fun that is in this game, like, oh my God, it is going to be incredibly special. I can't wait. And again, I'm hoping to see Ninja Guardian two through and I haven't beat the second one ever. So excited to keep going. Have you guys played it all or do you have any interest in it? You go. I never played it. No.
Starting point is 00:43:19 It was that thing when, even back in the day before Souls games were a thing, when And Bradvig and Clayman would come in and talk about being grinding on a boss and have they reached out to P.R. I was like, this is not something like a game I'd be interested in all, right? And even as somebody who played DMs, I would definitely cry. And then it was like, okay, I get it, but it's not like, that's not the action game I want or what I'm looking for. No. The four with the futuristic thing and the past, like, and I imagine what a modern day version of that would look like with sensibilities and how approachable or whatever. I want to try that, but I by no means think I'm going to go through. It's like what I do is Stellar Blade,
Starting point is 00:43:52 or I'm sure I'll play it for a couple hours to get the vibe. I mean, like, all, cool, but I don't see it grabbing me and pulling me through. Yeah, that's a big win for me, Tim. As an Xbox kid growing up, you and I've talked about this before of I never played Ninja Guide, and I don't really know this franchise. And so riding the high of all the From Software games that I've been playing, wanting that more hack and slash actiony vibe instead of the, hey, this is going to punish you all the time. I'm down for the punish, but like I want to get kind of wild with it.
Starting point is 00:44:18 He does. And when I look up how long to beat, it says 10 hours. for the main story. It looks like a little bit smaller there. Sure, I'll die a bunch and then we'll probably add on to the clock. But like, yeah, this is right up my alley. I guess my only question, Tim, is will I understand the character and the story since this is two, not one?
Starting point is 00:44:34 Yeah. But I mean, yeah, like you brought up for Xbox fans like me or just any gaming fans. It's like perfect chance to jump in, learn about it and get ready for four. I'm all in on this. I can't wait. Yeah, really, really cool stuff. And again, just playing this type of game is just so refreshing. And it's funny because it coming out right now as we're gearing up.
Starting point is 00:44:52 for the Devil May Cry anime dropping on Netflix by the Shankar. Then I'm just putting out the intro for that and like how excited I am for that project. Like it's got me in the mood and I'm like, oh man, I kind of want to go back and play the old Devil May Cry games. Like I just, I think they're about to get a renaissance of this style of game
Starting point is 00:45:08 and that makes a gamer like me very, very excited. A gamer like me. Can you help me become good at Devil May Cry? No, I bought the reason for that. Every time they bring up the score, I'm like, stop embarrassing me with the score. Like, I'm just having fun smashing the buttons. Like, Don't hit me with the score.
Starting point is 00:45:23 And they always do. And I'm like, just get it off the screen for a minute. Greg, though. Hey. You have a whole bunch of things that you can't really talk about. Yeah, it's one of those weird things. I've been traveling the globe, the entire country, play preview in games,
Starting point is 00:45:37 enjoying myself. So there's a bunch of things that I can confirm and give you dates for. So, of course, I went to Royal Roan. I'm going to do this in order of the previews slash reviews going live. Of course, I went to Royal Rumble this weekend. I got to see Jay Uso, Killick, went to Smackdown, had a great time. But on top of that, the whole reason I went out there was that 2K flew me in, obviously, a bunch of different journalists and creators out there to play WW2K25.
Starting point is 00:46:01 Can't talk about it yet, but I will on Wednesday, February 5th, that is this Wednesday, that games cast I'll be able to preview it there. I also snuck Poe and his son. That's awesome. Shout out to 2K where I was like, hey, my friend, I was like, my brother, you know, I dress it up, my brother and nephew, because it's so hard in an email to explain. He's my best friend for forever. We've known each other since kindergarten. Anyways, in my death year. I was like, huh?
Starting point is 00:46:24 Is he rocking a mullet? He's rocking a mullet. He looks good, doesn't it? Yeah, yeah. I was like, hey, he's the biggest WW2K fan. He's going to be there anyway. Can I bring him and can we do content together?
Starting point is 00:46:35 And they were like, sure, yeah. So they gave him a station. Jack got to play alongside me. I'm going to get some impressions from him to read or at least have maybe a video with him for Wednesday. So I'm excited about that. A shout out for that. And yeah, talk about what's going on with that one.
Starting point is 00:46:47 That's really good. Then before then I went to, New York. I took a red eye Wednesday night to Thursday morning, landed, went to the hotel, dropped my bag, caught 30 minutes of sleep. And then I went to Microsoft, the experience store they have there, and I played south of midnight for another preview there.
Starting point is 00:47:02 I can't wait to hear. Can't tell you about that one until Tuesday, February 11th. However, I can show event space photos. They had all these amazing things from the stop motion intro video they put together. So we got to see that. I don't know when that gets revealed, but if you want to page through a whole bunch of cool stuff for
Starting point is 00:47:18 what they're doing. Wait, so they actually did real stop motion. For the intro video to the thing, which is like a tone center. Not for the game. The game is different. They had an amazing presentation from them, both the developers and then the people they partnered with to do this, where it was this really weird. Maybe that's embargoed. I'll talk about it later. But no, you see a whole much cool stuff there. Got to meet a whole much cool creators and got to play a bunch of stuff at midnight.
Starting point is 00:47:41 So very excited to talk about that one. Tuesday, February 11th. So that's next week. And then possibly most important for next week. Thursday, February 13th, we're reviewing avowed. I do have. have avowed. I have been playing avowed. We're confirmed to have that. So, lots of exciting stuff there. Yeah. All coming up. So what could I talk about today? What? Oh, what could I shine the light on? We will shine the light on the Razor Blade 18 laptop. Oh, snap. So it's massive. Of course, it's 18 inches, right? It's this gigantic laptop, Roger showing you the pretty thing over there, whatever. This is a shout out to our friends at Razor. This is not a sponsored segment. This is,
Starting point is 00:48:15 Hey, Greg, you're getting an avowed code, but you're also about to travel the country. And I was like, oh, okay, crap. And I reached out to Razor and I was like, hey, I'm going to be needing to review on the road. Can you hook me up and help me out? And they're like, yeah, we'll send you a loner so you can try it out.
Starting point is 00:48:32 And they're kind of funny best friends. Like, we know how you feel about PC gaming. But we also see the opportunity you've had with your steam deck and everything else. So they sent the Blade 18, which I will have to read because you know, I don't know any of the things. I can't wait for this.
Starting point is 00:48:44 This is so funny, Craig, doing it. You have the Blade 18 laptop with an Nvidia, G-Force, R-TX-4090 GPU. It features a Q-HD screen with 240-hertz refresh rate and an OLED panel. Oh, yeah. It says our Blade 18 is meant to be a desktop replacement for power users who want the most powerful and largest laptop. This laptop is a problem because it is so much better than the tower I have at home.
Starting point is 00:49:11 And again, the, like, here's what I'll walk you. First off, I mean, obviously, the whole point so I could review on the plane, so I could review in the hotel room. Of course I could. They also sent the Wolverine V3 controller. Yeah. Very nice. Back paddles. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:25 Back paddles. They got the nub thing up there too, like a third ball. That sticks, I'm pretty sure. Yeah. And I think it's the Black Shark headset they sent me as well so I could have this. So I had a whole experience ready to go. Again, none of this is sponsored. They're just great partners and great friends of the show.
Starting point is 00:49:39 So thank you, Razor. But back to the thing. Like, I mean, not talking about obviously avowed in any sense. but in terms of the laptop of you'll play games and then also playing my other stuff I'm playing Crip Master on it
Starting point is 00:49:51 let me tell you as somebody who only played Crip Master on a steam deck booting it on an actual thing and watching the load bar and I was like oh shit that doesn't happen on my Steam deck that doesn't happen on my Steam deck
Starting point is 00:50:03 oh no oh no but again having this having the screen you know even before I left I was playing a little bit at my desk right
Starting point is 00:50:13 because of course I have that I have the widescreen monitor but that doesn't have H2 GR, right? Some games often don't look as good as they could. Playing on this, the screen's good, right, Tim? Oh, yeah. I mean, the stats are awesome. I don't know the stats.
Starting point is 00:50:25 I'm telling you the stats, right? My experience with Razor Blades have been very, very positive. So I would imagine that this new model is just, I mean, these numbers back up a very powerful laptop with awesome specs. So I'm sure that it's awesome. So yeah, that was great. Playing on the plane was great. I couldn't, I was on the puddle jumper from New York to Indianapolis didn't have
Starting point is 00:50:47 enough power through the seat to do it. So I got an hour I got an hour out of it before the battery died when I was like, you know, and I wasn't tweaking settings. I was just like, let's play. Let's just run. That's how we do it. That's how we do it. But again, you know, as somebody who usually has a laptop with them, having a laptop that
Starting point is 00:51:03 could play games very, like, you know, very well. I was like, huh, that's incredible. And then of course, the last night, I, you know, I fly, I land, I come home right in a dad mode. Oh, I know.
Starting point is 00:51:17 decided to see me. I got him a CM punk wrestling buddy. He was drop kicking that around the house, having a great time. Finally getting this little kid to sleep. Jen, she's going to sleep. We watch Severance. And I'm like, all right, I'm tired. Okay.
Starting point is 00:51:28 But I need to, I'm on the review grind. I'm going to play a vowed. I got to get to work here. You know what I mean? And so I had this whole thing of like, okay, well, I was playing offline in the hotel room, which means I'm going to have to turn this on and then sync the save. And I know sometimes Xbox is weird about that because I'm playing the Xbox gaming app here. So it would go to my thing.
Starting point is 00:51:46 And I was like, oh, it's installed down there. And I was like, wait a second. I'm, I can do that tomorrow. I'm very tired now. And I just walked to the living room TV and picked up the HDMI and plugged it in and sat down the counter. Yeah. It's actually really nice.
Starting point is 00:51:59 Because I don't know if you know this. It's like then a portable console. Oh yeah. It just plugs into anything. And it just works. It just works. It just works. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:52:07 Little tiny Roger. You know, you know, you know, Roger, you know, like, oh, the tower downstairs. It's got bios who, I have no idea. It's got bios. People ask me all the time when I'm like, I'm trying to do something. the tower downstairs like, oh, give me your specs. I'm like, I don't know how to do that. I wish I could. I wish I could. I know there's an RtX in it. And they're like, what is it? And I'm like, it's not the one Bernie owns. It's, you know, it's got numbers. And I think it's in the
Starting point is 00:52:28 3,000s, but I'm not sure what's going on. So the fact that this one's ready to go pretty goddamn impressive. And then Razor was like, well, don't forget, we're about to put out a 16-inch version, which they said, coming in Q1, it's been completely redesigned. It features the latest and great as GPUs making an exciting addition to the blade family. It'll support the new 50 series GPUs, including up to the Nvidia G-Force RtX-5090. The chassis has been redesigned to be 32% smaller by volume compared to the Blade 16. We've enhanced the user experience with the typing and all this other stuff.
Starting point is 00:52:58 So is the OLED screen. And I'll say that was the one thing about it on the airplane. You know, I'm a big man. Big man. And I saw I'm on the smaller puddle jump, big computer. There was a lot of balancing until I found the right position where I was playing. I mean, because, yeah, 18 inches. on a plane. That's, that's...
Starting point is 00:53:14 Is that too big? Yes. You're pushing it. Really? Oh, yeah. I was fine. I was, I was, there and I had it. The guy next to me, he was a gamer. He was watching some dumb anime on his phone. He kept looking over and seeing what I was up to. Hell yeah. Don't worry, Microsoft. Now looking at the game. Just looking at the Amazing Razor laptop. I'm looking at the game. All right? You're looking at it. The way, you're
Starting point is 00:53:30 looking at an avowed screenshot. You don't know what you're looking at. No way else what's happening. Anyways, I'm very impressed with this. So, I mean, let's be real here, Greg. Like, does this change you in any, like, demonstrative? way going forward. Your eyes are open, like the people have been right, you know. Do you see this actually making a change?
Starting point is 00:53:49 Or is this just like, oh, it's cool. I'm happy other people get to have their fun that way. I don't know. I think there's an investment opportunity here, again, with it being way better than the tower I have, which is outdated and, I mean, pre-COVID. Yeah. You know what I mean? The tower I'm using downstairs.
Starting point is 00:54:07 So there's something there with it. This is back to our conversation about Xbox. You know what I mean? Of course, like, well, if, and I, And I'm not even sure what the about specs are on series X, whatever. But let's just say whatever, when they're always having the problem where, well, the PC version 60 frames in that Xbox game isn't going to be 30 frames until they update. Like Starfield was at launch and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:54:26 Like, again, of course, the first thing I booted up to try out on this baby when I got it was Starfield. Game of the year, two years running, right? And did it work? Tim? It ran, baby. It ran, baby. It looked really good. There's way more detail.
Starting point is 00:54:37 Like, I'm not, you know, I'm not that guy. I'm not that guy. But looking at it, I'm like, this is, there's way more detail in Starfield here. It's running better here than it is on my Xbox Series X. So it then becomes this interesting conversation. Well, what about it? And then again, I'm still a Steam Deck guy. I still want my Steam Deck for the plane normally, right?
Starting point is 00:54:54 Obviously, for a pre-release game and all these different things, there's a million bells and whistles and things being added and changed. So it's like, I don't know what it does to me. I don't think it shifts where I'm like, you know, whatever. It's obviously way more expensive than a PlayStation or a... Yeah. I mean, I don't know the cost of this, but I mean, I bet it's, what, five, six times the cost of an Xbox series? You got it up bad?
Starting point is 00:55:14 Barrett, I'm sorry. Roger you sell the link up there. I think I'd have a price in there, right, or whatever. Yeah, let me pull it up real quick. Yeah, I mean, that's PC gaming to me, an outsider and why I don't do it. But what I like is that it's turnkey and it would be done, and then you'd have something, if you buy the 16, that's the latest and greatest. How long that lasts? I don't know. And he can move around.
Starting point is 00:55:30 Yeah, so 30, $3,600, right? Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, a lot of money. That's PC gaming to me. And maybe I'm wrong about that, you know what I mean? So, but it's like, would that change it? Would I do that? I don't think I'd go that far, but I'm enjoying my time. And it's a great addition to being able to play that stuff
Starting point is 00:55:47 and review a game on the go that way. Yeah, totally. I mean, that's very, very cool. Even getting you getting an hour on the plane for a new game, like, that's cool. Yeah. For our lifestyles. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:55 In particular, I think it's very valuable. And while we're already here, you know what I mean? Talk about Razor. The fine friends at Razor also are sent to me over. Not sponsored for everybody. Not sponsored, but they're sending me over the Corona Reiser or not a 310 keyless chromi edition. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:13 Because Lanzah has all the. the Hello Kitty stuff. So like, hey, do you want Karomi? And I'm like, yeah, I like the keyboard. So, yeah, it's coming today. Hell you, that's great. Tim, that controller, really nice, Greg. Would you think of that?
Starting point is 00:56:25 I like it. It was great. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's good one. You know, on me. I'm like, I'm not doing the back paddles or any of that stuff. Oh, it's going to change your life. No, I refuse to do it. The back paddles feel great on this.
Starting point is 00:56:34 They got the adjusters on the L2R2. That's big for me. I need those adjusters. Oh, really? Do you do the mounts click on that? I like the full pulse. Yeah, I'll always be a full poll guy. Click boy.
Starting point is 00:56:47 Michael says this all sounds very sponsored. It's not. Again, they're just really good kind of funny best friends. They make cool stuff and they send it to us. I can't help you on that one. I don't know. If only other people would send us stuff. Yeah, somebody send me something.
Starting point is 00:56:58 Please. Somebody. Well, PlayStation sent me. No, I sent him another thing. You know what I mean? Gifted by PlayStation hashtag. What a thing to come home to.
Starting point is 00:57:08 You know what I mean? Oh, open it up the way. Open it up the way. The only way. Why would I open it the way? Open it the way. Am I, I'm not one of these sickos keeping this box above my bed like a bunch of weirdos. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:57:20 It's about the controller. Gary Witton wishes he could get this controller. I think he has two. Damn it. There we go. I think it's a really good looking controller. IMO. Okay.
Starting point is 00:57:31 Well, I mean, I love hellbubbers. You don't like the yell. I'll tell you the one thing I think that throws it off is in the box I just tore apart. They show it with the blue light on it. And with the blue light on it, that's when I'm like, I don't like the blue with the yellow. They don't really like messing around with the back. No, why would they? Who's looking at it?
Starting point is 00:57:46 I mean, it's a full controller. I want the whole thing dressed up. You know what this reminds you of? What? My Titanfall Xbox controller back in the day. Roger, bring that up. It has a very similar look to it right here. The Lamosa, right?
Starting point is 00:57:58 Because Randy Lamosa made it or whatever. Remember this? IGN's Randy? Oh, it doesn't matter anyways. Maybe his brother, I forget. But I had the Titanfall controller. I like that a lot. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:05 But I like hell there's a lot. So I like that. I like that. Where are you at these days with controllers? Because I know, I mean, you tried for a little bit with some stuff. but then like where, like, do you have like strong convictions? There it's, yeah. And see, Lemoso Armory, Randy Lamosa's brother or him, I forget.
Starting point is 00:58:20 It doesn't matter. Got a vibe. Do I have a controller that I go to, like a default that I love? Is that what you mean? Yeah. You know, at home with the PlayStation's right now, I, for a long time, I rock the kind of funny blue and the kind of funny pink, you know, when they did those ones or whatever.
Starting point is 00:58:34 And then now that I have the 30th anniversary PlayStation Dual Sense, I'm either doing that or that white one they did in the Chroma collection. the chromal white. I like that one a lot too. So those are the ones on the dock right now that are ready to go. Here at work, I use just the straight black one. I might keep the helldivers one out and maybe start switching up on that one. For Xbox, for the longest time, I was using the C.
Starting point is 00:58:55 At home, I used the pink one. Here at work, I was using that see-through white one with the gold accents that I like a lot. Oh, that was nice. But then, of course, Xbox helped us out. Thank you so much for our anniversary. We made the custom ones, and now I'm just using that Xbox one. So even though you have an edge, that's not your go-to? Correct.
Starting point is 00:59:12 Yeah, remember I gave my original edge to Janet Garcia, and then I have the 30th anniversary edge now to just sits downstairs there. It's like, this is such a weird thing. I know, I know it's better and amazing. Yeah, yeah. But just the way I'm wired, and this sounds stupid, I admit. But my point is that when I get dropped into a game that has a very similar control scheme at a preview, at a summer game fest, I don't want to be like, oh, well, I had it back here,
Starting point is 00:59:37 so I'm not used to it. I just like, I'm going to take the default thing. You know what I mean and work with it that way. But even without the changing the back buttons or using them at all, like you wouldn't prefer the edge. I just think it's so much nicer. No, it's heavy. I love how she heavy.
Starting point is 00:59:52 I don't like that. No, how much heavier is it compared to the elite? Is it as heavy as the elite? Somebody would have to pick up an elite. Nobody knows. Heavier than the elite? Wow.
Starting point is 01:00:02 The edge is a dense boy. Yeah, I know. Big, big fan. The elite is great too. Both of them. The edge is 0.71 pounds. And then the elite. weight is 0.752.
Starting point is 01:00:16 So the elite's heavier. Really? Yeah. Wow. That shocks me. It doesn't feel like that. It really doesn't. I think, yeah, the distribution.
Starting point is 01:00:23 We're not picking up the game. The Xbox one is a little taller, you know? Yeah, the way it feels in the handles of the Xbox one for sure. Hmm. Interesting stuff. Well, everybody, let us know in the comments below if you think the edge is too heavy or just right. You know what I mean? Let's Goldilocks this motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:00:39 I like that. And yeah. If you have any thoughts on Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 or on Civilization 7, please let us know those in the comments below. Can I throw one thing out there? I'm sorry. Before we go, I just sent to assets, Roger, I know, sorry, you're doing
Starting point is 01:00:53 a million things. They're just sent to assets a screenshot. We have, I don't know, we shouldn't give our haters any publicity. Wow. I mean, the people in the comments who want to be big babies and be mean. But if you can throw it up, a very old man named Paris Lilly sent this to me and Roger ain't special.
Starting point is 01:01:09 And it's him with his Wolverine Pro Boxer. up. Here's why we're special, Paris. You're watching us. No one's watching you. All right. Also, you see, ours is unboxed because we're gamers and we play things. Yours is all wrapped up, all right? Because you're an old man. So let me
Starting point is 01:01:25 just turn it off and go to Denny's for the early bird special. Nobody's got time for you. I'm so sorry, Paris. We love you a lot. Thanks. Just in one of those moods. For everyone, stay tuned. The day's not over. Mike and Nick are about to play streamer life too. If you're on Twitch, you can stay right where
Starting point is 01:01:41 you are. If you're on YouTube, you need to make the jump over to a different YouTube video. But either way, we love you. We appreciate you. Until next time, but our pleasure to serve you. I'm not picking up this box.

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