Kinda Funny Gamescast: Video Game Podcast - Console Mergers And Game Magazines - Kinda Funny Gamescast Ep 29

Episode Date: July 31, 2015

From Kojima to Miyamoto, which developers could fins success on their own, is it awesome or weird to name your kids after video game characters, will Nintendo ever merge with PlayStation or Xbox, and we discuss our favorite video game magazines we grew up with. (Released 07.24.15) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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As always, I'm Tim Gettys, I'm joined by The coolest dudes of video games, Colin Moriarty, Greg Miller and Porto of the Wiener Dogg Thank you for not leaving him out Yeah, I know He's doing some things today that I don't like He doesn't have enough star power He doesn't.

He doesn't have enough star power We tried at the one time where we had him laying and stayed out here And I couldn't handle it, right? Yeah I've been seeing this new dog bed That's shaped like a hot dog bun That might be a good fit for him

Just to sit there I mean, I like that. I'm definitely into that. Still, still concerned with the notion that he must be involved. I'm just letting you know. Necessarily in the show, since he typically just lays there, and he is not only typically a dog.

The big thing I wanted to present to you guys on this is if you watch this on YouTube, of course. Yeah. There's the intro. I do think we need to put a Pridillo's face in there at some point because it goes, and it's us, but where's Pertoa? He should have a little flash frame.

He has a lot of insight and interesting analyses and anecdotes about the industry. you know, through his long-standing exposure to the industry. Sure. You know what? Here's what I'm going to say. You ask any motherfucker who's your favorite peanut from peanuts. They're going to say Snoopy. Snoopy had a longer career than any of these idiots. Charlie Drown, Pepperman Batty. Nobody cared about these guys. It was all about the Snoop.

Yeah, the Snoop. Why are you saying their names like that? Are you afraid of getting sued? Are these like the fucking off-brand toys you find in Walgreens? Yeah, exactly, exactly. What do you think Portilla's favorite games would be if Portillo was a... Not a dog. Civilization 5. He would be into that.

He's a deep mind. Oh, yeah. I think he'd like connect games. He likes to play. I just don't let him do it. I forced him into this stuff like, Dan Central. He's all about that. Yeah, he could get into that.

Connectimals. He could see cats for a change. Skittles. I liked, I liked Skittles, Jesus. It reminds me of David, Clayman. I like that you brought up the point that when you're not around, that Portillo gets depressed. Yeah.

Now, what is the name? nature of his depression. I can show you images. Christine will tell you about it. We have to get Christina to show to describe. He looks, he looks a little depressed all the time. He looks a little something, actually.

I don't know if depressed is the right word. He's something, though. I mean, he's definitely something. Yeah. Yeah, there's no doubt. I mean, wait, hold on. This week, I'm, I'm leaving this week, and you're staying. You can, you can observe them for yourself.

Do I have to? I'm looking out, look at us head that, dog is. Look at his head down. Just not happy? That's kind of his natural condition. I just don't believe that he's, this is what I was saying about this about Portillo's. I'm not sure that he's self-aware enough to know that you're not here.

I assure you he is. I think it's not as deep as you think. I think he knows he loves you more than anything, right? But I think once you're gone, when he goes to Pet Camp, I think he just goes about his business, and then he smells you again or has this identity with you again where he remembers that he loves you more than anything yet. Like, in other words, I don't think there's a pining or a longing.

You don't have to call Christine? You don't have to call Christine because there's no way she can possibly know the answer to this. She'll tell you how he acts differently. It's not that important. We could talk about this another time. I just wanted to say that I don't think Portillo is a deep enough thinker. He's not exactly an existentialist. He's not out there in the woods with Thoreau and Emerson thinking about, you know,

no one is they're dead. They are dead. But no one's out in the woods talking to them. At some point, someone who's in the woods talking to them. He's doing okay. He's doing something. I mean, he's doing something. I'm not putting him down.

I'm just saying, I don't think that, like when Greg leaves, he's probably sad for a minute. Then he forgets what's sad in the same. He's sad. the whole time. And then he just forgets what's sad. He sleeps for 18 to 20 hours a day and he eats and he runs around and does things

and then he doesn't and over time I think if not exposed to Greg he would forget Greg existed and then he would remember because sent being the closest sense tied to memory remembers that he indeed loved Greg more than anything else which is why he gets excited when Greg gets home. I don't think it's getting close enough to him being gone, me being gone

long enough that he's getting to forget me forever territory. Maybe after a few days it starts to wane but don't they say about dogs that like when you leave the house the dog thinks every time that you're not going to come back. Yeah, they have no idea how much time passes is what's that. This is the Kind of Funny Games cast.

The show where we talk to you about video games and all the cool stuff going on in video games, only sometimes. Most of the time, we're not going to do that. But see, how could we when we have this? Every week over on YouTube.com slash Kind of Funny Games, we break this show up topic by topic Monday through Thursday. Full episode on Friday, but if you want that episode early, you can go to Patreon.com slash Kind of Funny Games. And you can get it early. Is this one worth the dollar? I can tell you it will be.

You know why? Because this is the special Patreon episode. I just decided that. So here's the deal. Over on patreon.com slash kind of funny games, there's a bunch of different tiers.

Right. Some of the tiers get you different stuff. For a dollar, you get the exclusive episode that we do monthly. You have access to that. For $5, you get this show early. $10, you get this video early.

And some other number that I don't remember, but I think it's 15 or 20. You get thanked. Visual. So Kevin, can you please put it here? Thank all the good people for all their good work. 20 says Kevin. Yeah, this one's worth the 20.

I'll tell you that much. 15, yeah, that's right. 15's the... 15, you get... The monthly chat. And you get Colin or a gig live. Yes. As a YouTube video.

Hey, Twitch. Want to watch it on the go wherever you are? Get it on YouTube. Archive. Now, there's an important thing. One of these tiers that are up there. Yeah. 50, perhaps?

I don't know. But if you go to Patreon. Acom slash kind of funny. Man, you did a lot of research on this one. Whatever, it's not about the money. It's about what the tier is. I know the tier. The tier is you get your topic on the show.

Right. Every once in a while we sprinkle them in. But I decided today, because we had to do the thank yous and stuff. I want to sprinkle all over the place. And I just want, I want this to be the Patreon. So it's good. Every question. I don't know.

You're excited. I didn't want to get too. We did the siren? Yeah. It was a little much. I don't know who's in this house right now. I don't know if Christine's here or not. I want to respect.

her space. She wants to respect her audio levels and I don't want to scare Portillo. That's true. He was trying to make him around. So every topic in this is going to be brought to you by someone from Patreon. Okay. I like that. That's good.

Yeah, it'll be fun. It'll be fun. Wait a minute. Yes. Before we get into any of these topics. Now look at Portillo's face right now. He looks, he looks depressed. Right now.

He looks depressed. He looks like he doesn't look depressed. He looks tired. He looks like he's had a long day. Look at that. Like he's very tired He's so sleepy The world's got you down, Fortillo

Things are hard He loves this He loves that It's like the crack of your butt But it's the crack of his face He loves this You like that when someone does that To the crack of your butt?

Who doesn't? You've been to right now Dude too, you'll see Sweets like swipe up Yeah, you're gonna just swipe your finger Right down there Why remember you do that to your friends Credit cards stuff?

What a bunch of weird perverts we were I don't know that I ever did that Actually to my friends Like a piece of cardboard Put through the buck crack Well like you know Not like when they're naked butt, but like, you know, just, you'll, I'm sure it'll all be in my documentary. All right, okay.

So, before we get in all that, Leaping Tiger, we want to give a nice little shout out to them. The last couple weeks we've been doing this thing called game, game nights. Yep. And I ever. Kind of funny game nights. On Wednesdays. Yep. We, uh, what time was it?

Seven o'clock. Pacific time. He's so good. I think it's a really cool thing. Yeah. I mean, we always talk about this, right? This being the Patreon episode, they're, you know, they went up and they were the first people to come to kind of funny games and take the sponsors. shipped here, right? And

that they did that because they're fans of what we do, and so they want to integrate with us and fellow best friends, the best way they can and they do that by planning game nights where they give away a Vita to somebody and since the app's brand new, you're only playing over the kind of funny people and it's awesome. Yeah, so right now everyone's playing Rocket League, which you're playing

that anyway, so might as well play with kind of funny people and Winavita. Yeah, that's pretty damn cool. So the leaping leaping dash tiger.com is where we can go to get it. Or you can get it. There's an iOS app and all that stuff. Android's coming. Pretty much it's just a way to, it's a friend-finding app to be able to play games together,

see who's playing what, go on Quest and do all that stuff. It's like a mixture of four square and some kind of friend finder, yeah. Because you're like, I'm checking into Rocket League. And then it shows you who's playing Rocket League around you. And you can message them like, hey, do you want to play together? You're like, yeah, sure. Are you kind of funny people? Yeah, hey, Colin.

No, I love Colin. I'm going to drive to your house and kill you. Don't do that. That's all bad. Don't do that. So, yeah, some of those things happen. Some of those things don't. But definitely check out the Rocket League game nights for us.

and Leaping dash tiger.com. Yeah, so Wednesday, go play it. Seven to nine. Use Leaping Tiger. You have a chance to win a Vita. Yay. Yeah. We need more Vitas in the wild, Colin.

Sure do, Greg. And I'm glad to get a Vita out there because you know that persona for dancing all night is so goddamn close. Yeah. I was thinking about that over this trip when we were going to SGC playing the Vita. And I'm like, this is fun.

I need a game. Oh, wait, it's coming. It's coming. It's coming. Yeah, so I tweeted about this. But after all the... So, as you guys might know. Greg Miller has a new nickname, and it's Greg Meet and Greet Miller.

Sure. Because Greg Miller loves his meet and greets. Yeah. We all do. But Greg really loved it. Did you see that when we got back out of the, the, the, uh, meet and greet in Friscoe, Texas? I was with it.

Less than an hour to tweet out about the next meeting greet. He's just, like to get you guys, notice. Saturday. Buena Park, Portillo's. Come eat at the restaurant with Greg, Tim, Nick, Kevin. That was so good I named my dog after. You need your dog after Kevin? Pretellas.

Restaurant. Oh my God. Anyways, the point is, over the last couple of months, we've been doing a lot of meet and greets, and you guys have been doing for a long time, VIGN and all this stuff. But I swear to God that we must have autographed

over half of the Vitas in existence. Yeah. By this point. I like the best one at the SGC meet greet at Wild Wings was the guy who bought it right before he came to us. He had it, he unwrapped it, and he was like, I just bought this like 15 minutes ago, so you guys could sign it.

I was like, yeah. Cool. Good purchase. All right. You're welcome. So, you are welcome. Back to the topic at hand. Topic number one is from our boy, Kenny Char.

What up, Kenny Char? Long time support. He's been, yeah, he's been in the long run. A down ass. He's a down, ass, motherfucker. In light of the recent Kojima slash Konami debacle, as well as Nolan North's recent comments regarding Amy Henning's departure, I was wondering which individuals in the gaming industry would be able to go to a new studio and be granted the resources to

create a new game. I originally came up with a long list of candidates, but Igarashi and an Fune's inability to fully fund bloodstained and mighty number nine through traditional roots has me rethinking things. At this point, would it just be Kojima and not that he would ever leave, Miyamoto? Thanks. And kind of. Funny! That's a good question.

And that's a good point. He raises a very, very interesting point with Inifune and Igarashi in the fact of what games are publishers currently funding, right? And I think that, Kajima, I mean, is in a different boat, right? And the fact that his game is, I mean, Metal Gear has been going on forever evolving. it is third-person adventure. You know what I mean? It isn't not stuck in a bad way, quotes like Mega Man or traditional Castlevania, Symphia of the Night, right, 2D Side Scroller.

So with that in mind, you'd think, what? Neil Druckman or Bruce Trailey, right? If they left Naughty Dog, they could go anywhere. They could go, and the name of last of us, Uncharted 2, now Uncharted 4. They'd be able to just write their own ticket and do whatever the hell they want it to. And that's, again, because they're making games that are in the zeitgeist right now that are super popular. Right, Colin?

Yeah, I mean, those are the names that came to mind for me too. I think that I think there's two things. One is that there are more obscure names in the industry or for instance, not even obscure, but someone like Carmack, for instance, that Ed, like he could have gone and done whatever he wanted. He did, he left, he left it and he's doing Oculus stuff now.

But I think that there's, we look almost at the visionaries in terms of the artistic merit or the creativity. And that's how you get, you know, a guys like Neil and Bruce or Amy all from Noddy Dog. but I think that there's probably names that we don't even know our names certainly our audience would know when we're not going to get too into the weeds

that would easily be able to do other things based on their prowess to make engines, their prowess to code or their prowess for multiplayer design and all these kinds of things. So I think that we look at it just on based on the names that we know, but I think there are a lot of names that we don't know that can probably do some pretty big things,

a pretty big studios too. But I think Kojima is the one great example and maybe Druckman in Australia and a few others that if given the chance not only could do whatever they want, will probably have a significant bidding war between multiple big publishers because I don't think you can compare

in Afune and Igarashi to, unfortunately, to someone like Kojima or Miyamoto or Henig or Bruce Strait, because they've not had the critical success. They've not had the commercial success. They have not had the commercial success that is necessary for these big publishers to pay attention to them.

So it makes somewhat some sense that big publishers wouldn't be interested in bloodstained, not because they can't make money on it, but because they can't make a lot of money on it. So it's not, if Activision is going to get involved at the Garashi and they can make, you know, $5 million versus in profit. It's probably not even worth it for them to do it. You know what I mean?

So I think that we have to keep those kinds of things in mind. So I am most excited for Metal Gear to come out because I want to see what Kojima does, because I think that Kojima will reemerge probably at a Western studio or Western public. It's more accurate to say he'll reemerge, I think, at a Western publisher with his own studio. You think that's more like, I mean, like, that's the most likely situation? Yes. I mean, I don't you feel? think the look he's looking at igorashi and i mean he's looking at in afune and he's thinking like i got

to get on this kicker on this kixirth thing i think that all this goodwill like i i'm saying last week right like he's going to come out of this a fucking folk hero you know i mean people would throw money sure but i think that i'm not i don't think we all overestimate how big kickstarter is for for cash and for for getting money through that but what in it or you know you suzuki got only six and a half million dollars which is still the most funded game i think of all time on for Shenmu 3. You know, I think that if Kojima went to Kickstarter, he'd be able to do more than that, but he's

still not going to get the money he needs to make the game he wants to make. To make it. I know there's something on Metal Gear is like money on Kickstarter is just part of it. You know, like, of course, like that helps and that's a nice little kickstart to the whole thing. But it's like it's also the stories, the articles, the controversy of oh, should he be doing this or should he not? He can make money

this way. Like, all of that kind of feeds into it. And then it's just going to retell the story of Kojima being this like folk hero and all that stuff. And it's like that it kind of creates the underdog thing where the end goal of the money isn't really the story if it be all it needs is seven million to become the most funded game all of a sudden that's a headline yeah but he can't but the point that's not the point the point the point I'm trying to make is that he can't make the games that he makes for seven million dollars

so like so it's it's more and I do think that it would be I personally believe that it would be a little weird for Kojima can absolutely make a studio at a for an exclusive studio for a AAA publisher. I have no doubt about that, you know, and he would need way more than what he's going to get on Kickstarter to make the games that he makes. We don't want, I don't want him to go to Kickstarter because he doesn't, that's not going to be good enough for him, you know, like, and I don't mean

that he's the greatest developer of all time because I don't think he is. In many ways, I think he's somewhat overrated because I'm curious, like, what the people behind the scenes are really doing to make these games great. He's worked at the same core group of guys for a long time. He's got a great team. But it's more that he is one of the few names that I think because of the Zikeyes

right now with his particular situation with Konami, that there are publishers that would die to get him on board. And so I don't, you know, like, like, he's not making something obscure. Mighty Number 9 is still a pretty obscure game. And Bloodstained is, you know, a 2.5 decathed Metroidvania game. It's just, it's not big bucks games. Like, he makes big cinematic games that you cannot make for $7 or $10 million. And so I would be curious to see, like, I don't, I think going to Kickstarter is a silly route for him.

My side, I mean, my side thing to that is, I'm interested to see if he wants this next game to be a big, crazy-ass budget game. You know what I mean? like I don't know where I'm not saying that like Metal Gear got out of control on him or something right but I think that he might just be ready to go and exhale and make something like that sun game I remember that thing on the DSA. Bukai right and like do something different

and just just feel it out you know what could I do what does the audience expect of me where do we go from here and be an artist again in quotes since there are no more make another metal gear you know what I mean sure time is of the essence for him though I think he's got a I think that if you want to to keep, everyone's always going to respect Ogima and I think, and rightfully

so, but I think if he wants to keep his cachet, he needs to immediately go and make another AAA game. You know, because he doesn't have roots in the more modest, unless you go back to like, really his days in the 80s in the early 90s, like he really doesn't have roots in more modest games, you know, unless he was like exactly producing something.

Even Zone of the Enders was still a pretty substantial game compared to a lot of games around it. Especially like in terms of its engine and graphically and stuff. So I think that, unlike like Igarashi, who's known for making really handheld games, and Afune who's known for making, you know, he was the

producer and creator of some big franchises, but he's really known for a very simple style of game. They can get away with more something that is more, that is looser. And of course, remember that even with bloodstained and they raised, you know, whatever, $5 million around that, that they still had other investment. That game's going to be a lot bigger than a $5 million game. So

there's a lot of different ways in there. I'm just interested because I really do believe that Kojima can get a hundred plus person studio from a big publisher for his own to make a AAA game. and do what he wants, and do whatever he wants. And I think that he desires, he comes off as a guy that desires to make big,

that he wants to do something like that. That's what he does. He's all about, I don't want to say he's all about himself because that is not true, but he's all about his vision, and he's the marquee guy, and he's the guy on the box and stuff.

So, you know, he's certainly the example. Others, but we shouldn't discount that there are a lot of other people that can do that too, and we might just not be able to know their names or they might not be household names, but there's certainly names in the industry. What's interesting to me about the question is,

yeah, I think what's a more fascinating question is, who do we think couldn't do this? I think the fact that we know someone's name is already establishing that they are the face of this brand company, whatever, which already gives them so much. And I think that that's the thing is with this question specifically, it's like you're talking about all the people that we don't know about and stuff.

It's like they're almost not the answer to the question because they're not going to be given those things, regardless of them having the talent. It's like kind of like Kim Kardashian, everyone knows who she is and she gets all this stuff regardless of talent. It doesn't matter. She's known, right? So it's like really kind of thinking about

there's only a handful of people that you could even, I think it falls into two camps. There's the people that you know their names. There's the Miyamoto's, the Kojima's, the Cliff Wazinskis, those people that are characters themselves. And then there's the people like in Afunei that people don't know his name. Like I think, you know, on a general level. But if you're like, oh, it's the creator of Mega Man.

That means something. The creator of Castlevania. That means something. It needs to be, you need to be in a position where you're tied to a thing. So it's like, I think Bruce and them, it's like, the creators of Uncharted, all of a sudden that makes sense. But then once you start going down the tree a little bit, and it's like, I don't know, you can't really just give everyone credit for Uncharted,

even though they all made Uncharted. Well, David Ballard did most of the heavy lifting. Exactly, exactly. So him, he'd be one of those people. Exactly. Right, but my only point is that there's a level of, like, Carmack was the example I used of a guy who has, I mean, back of the day, he was very creatively driven in terms of the content, but he's known for engines. He's known for the fidelity of the game's graphics and how it runs.

And those things were really, really important to it. And they still are really important. I mean, he would obsess over frame rates and stuff like that. And he doesn't necessarily have the chops as we saw. I don't know his level of engagement with games like Rage that I don't think we're like super well received. But no one could question that the game didn't run perfectly. And that was a product of his obsession over the tech. And we don't hear a lot about those kinds of guys.

And in a way, the guys that make your engines are even more valuable than the creators because you can get five games out of that engine, you know. And so that's the point I'm trying to make is that I'm sure that there are names. names, well-known names within the trenches of the industry that people would fawn over and probably make shit tons of money to not leave that really are the refiners of these various engines and the technical fidelity, the multiplayer coding and all these kinds of things. I think that's relevant. I mean, so for every Ken Levine, you have to have a guy that, you know, Ken Levine's not the programmer. Kevin Ken Levine's not the, you know, he's the creator, he's the writer, he's the visionary. And those are important at a base level, but of course, but we shouldn't undercut the,

the fact that we're still playing a game. You know what I mean? Portillo's stop. Kevin will be back. It'll be okay. Don't worry. So that's basically where I stand on that. But I think it's an interesting question.

It's more about if teams were mobile in my mind, like who, you know, like, for instance, like how much would Microsoft kill to get naughty dog, you know? Or how much would, you know, Sony want to get, you know, one of the, you know, like one in Nintendo's internal studios or something like that. Like it's, I look at it as. more as a, it's like a team, you know, a team effort. There's a lot of people behind the scenes that do a lot of really important work too. And if you just took the visionary, they might not necessarily all go along with that person,

which is why I'm interested to see what Kojima does in terms of like how many people he's going to poach inevitably from. He's going to take everybody from those studios and how much value that's going to be when he's certainly on the market soon. I can't wait. I can't wait to see what happens. I'm so much more excited about that than the actual game. Like, Metal Gear Solid 5 is fine.

I'm not really excited about it at all, but I'm, that's just me personally. but I am excited to see what happens to this particular person. I'm excited for both. I really want to play that game. It looks great. It's just not a game. I'm going to play Mad Max before I play Metal Gear. I know that's crazy.

Oh my God. I'm a silly man, Colin. All right. So, topic two. Comes from Min Chung. Hi, this is very exciting. My question is, what are your thoughts on naming babies

based on video game characters? I named my daughter Ellie when she was born 10 months ago. It was heavily influenced by The Last of Us. I've seen people named their kids weird and frankly stupid names based on books or movies, but Ellie is a real name. The name was cute, but it was the real... Damn, judging!

Ellie and Joel had that really inspired me. I wanted to be a Joel figure to my daughter. I wanted to be a father who would do anything to protect his daughter, though Ellie isn't Joel's daughter. Spoilers. That's pretty no. Anyways, I wanted to hear your thoughts on this matter. And lastly, the Korean barbecue in Atlanta is still available whenever you

guys come back here. Thank you, man. Thank you. I think it's cool. Yeah. I like that. I like that we're to a point where you can, video games can be taken seriously enough and, like, you can do that. And, I mean, don't get me wrong. People are still going to scoff.

There's going to be people you meet where you explain the name. And they're going to be wrong. Those people will die soon. They're aging out of the demographic. And then it'll just be to a point where, yeah, you can respect somebody. When we met the, when we met Logan

at Comic-Con during our panel. And I was like, oh, who, his mom was, like, you name after Wolverine? She's like, yeah. I was like, that's fucking awesome that you named your son after Wolverine. Are you kidding me? Like, I love the fact.

that kind of stuff's actually cool a couple days ago Kevin Smith on some social media I saw this on Instagram yeah and I don't know if it's a true story I don't know if he actually named his daughter after Harley Quinn really did yeah yeah so he was like yeah in 2003 whatever everyone I met was like oh so you must really like motorcycles and I was like oh you must really like

have you seen Suicide Squad trailer yeah it's like that's crazy yeah Harley is now and I remember that I remember when he did that because I was a huge Kevin Smith fan obviously I am a huge Kevin Smith fan I am a huge DC fan And I am a huge DC fan even back then. And I remember that. And I remember that being like, that's awesome, but really weird that this animated series character is caught on to this level that he's comfortable doing that. You know what I mean?

But now, like, being an adult, right? I wouldn't bat an eyelash at that, right? Yeah. What's interesting for me is, like, names are names. You know, whether it's a game character or a movie character, comic book, whatever. It's like, or a real person you know. It's like when you hear it, if it resonates with you, if that part, there's a couple ways to look at it because you're not necessarily naming someone. after the character.

You could just like the name, you know? But then there is the other side that you are naming it after this character because this character means something to you. He wants to be a Joel to this Ellie. Exactly. Whether it's that or if it's something, or you meet someone in real life and you're like, oh, I'm naming this person after Kevin, who is the best person I've ever met in my life. You know, it's like, that means something, but it could just be like, oh, I like

the name Kevin. Yeah, yeah. You know? And I've actually, I've thought a lot about it in my time of if I have kids, well, what I name them and why and Poki and Mon. Poki and Mon? Yeah, you'd have it too. Pokey Gettis? Mon get us. That'd be good. I was thinking

to name my kid's Spah. Spaghettis. That's actually really good. That's actually awesome. Yeah, it is. But you know, there's been a lot of video game characters that I've kind of made a mental list where I'm like, if I have a kid, these are potential names. And a couple of them have been names I've heard in video games. I'm like,

oh, I like that. A lot of them, Final Fantasy characters. A lot of them names that I'm not going to name my kid because they're fucking weird. Tifa. But, no, not so much Tifa. Blitzball. Blitzball was a close second. Like, Yuna is, I think, is a very pretty name.

And I think Yuna is a pretty girl name. I'm not naming the, I wouldn't be naming her after the character, Yuna, though. You know, it's just, I like that name, and it's unique and weird. But I'm unique and weird. If you think about it. You're a unique and weird butterfly. But, yeah, I'm blanking now, but there's definitely, uh, other ones and I feel like a lot of them tend to be

Square games. Like I like Kyrie a lot from Kingdom Hearts again, not naming it after Kyrie, but it's a pretty name. Goofy. Um, that's good. Goofy Gettys. Goofy Ginghs. What are you got up to Gigi? I like that. Goofy told you. King Warms coming out of this year. Told you, motherfug who, motherfucker. Yeah.

You all motherfuckers doubt in me. What about you, Colin? I'm of two minds because I think that you have to give, when you're naming someone after a fictional character, I think you have to give it a little bit of space. I think that, so Ellie,

I think is kind of safe, but you just don't, like, when characters are active, I'm always interested in, like, we haven't seen the last of Ellie. And I'm interested in,

like, what, what, you know, what if something terrible? What if she turns into, like a terrible person? Like,

what if she ends up being the villain or something like that? Like, I think someone I heard someone named her kid like Colisi or something like that. And I'm like, That's really not a good idea Because you have no idea what the fuck that character Like that character could be By the end of that series be a fucking villain

It'd be awful or be dead in some Like you named her Named your kid after a fucking character It's gonna get the capitated I don't know what the fuck happens store But you know like there's just all these Wait until it's over You know and then

And then go in that direction So I don't think it's necessarily capricious But it's like A little bit When people are rushing to name their kids After things that are like very new I think that's just it's not It's your prerogua

But I think it's just dangerous because you don't know what the ramification of that name is going to be when it's all said and done. And that's going to fucking matter. You know, especially Ellie you can get away with because it's an Ellie short for Ellen, first of all. And it's, you know, or Eleanor. Yeah. And you can, not that we know, like, what necessarily her name is in the game, but Ellie is not just a normal name. I mean, like, that's a, that's a shortening of something.

Maybe he did. Well, Colise, you know. Calici's, you know, Colise's, it's a, and Cleesey's the title, isn't it's not the name? Yeah. But to me, it. It's, it's, it's just, you just don't know what's going to happen. And you don't, like, with Ellie, you can get away with it and be like, it's just a family name. No one's, no one's going to ask, like, how she got her name Ellie.

No one's going to ask that. But when you have a kid named Calisi, it's like, well, we know where you got that from. And God forbid, she ends up being like the fucking end of the world, you know, a villain or something like that. And you just named your kid after a fucking cat. You can't do anything about it. And everyone knows why you named your kid Cooleasy. So, like, I just think you have to give yourself a little bit of space from some of these fictional, from some of these fictional characters.

That said, I have no problem with it. I personally wouldn't do it. But I'm not, I love video games, but I'm not going to name my kid after video games. But that said, I want to name my kid after historical figures. So it's the same. It's exactly the same. Although those were real people that did real things. So I think that that's, there's a big difference there.

But, you know, like, I want my, I've always wanted to name either for a boy or a girl, my first kid, Roosevelt. And for Teddy and for FDR, and because we're from New York and all those kinds of things, just like they are. And I love that name. But that's a real, like, they're done. We know, like, we know everything they did. Good and bad, and they're not perfect people. But I have a good vision of what FDR and Teddy Roosevelt did. And it's way more positive than negative.

And so I'm inspired enough by their real life events, both of them, to name my kid Roosevelt as a first name. And I think that's awesome. But if it was like the 40s and I didn't really know, or the 30s and I didn't really know what the fuck FDR was going to do yet, it might be a little dangerous kind of thing. So that's the only point I'm trying to make. I think it's one of those things, though, that you can. can do it. You could name your kid Ellie or if we're in the 40s, you can name it Roosevelt and not, for me,

it was just like I saw, we used to always talk about how we wanted when we were both, I remember when we first started IGN, we were like, oh, da, blah, we're so into this and when we're both EICs of channels, we want to get IGN tattoos, right? And I keep around that for a long time and people used to try, always say, that's a dumb thing, don't do that. What are you talking about? Don't do that. If I

had done it and I had gotten my IGN tattoo, I wouldn't regret it now that I don't work at IGN, that would still be something that was cherished and very important to me that time. Just like if... You might. I'm telling you, I wouldn't. Well, I mean, I don't have it, so I guess I can't say it.

But in my mindset, I would not regret it. I think about it all the time. I want to me. Honestly, I would probably end up getting more because I liked how it looked or whatever. Now, I'm talking about what I regret the motivations of it. Not do I think of my arm would look good in that tattoo? It's the same way there, I think, in the fact that you named your daughter, Colisei, because you like the first three seasons of the Game of Thrones or whatever.

And then, yeah, and season, what are we on? What are we just in? Five, six. We're going into six. We're going into six. Season 6, she starts drinking blood and killing babies and putting them across the sky and stuff, and it's all on a forest preserve. God damn. I'd pay to see that.

Yeah. I mean, like, I don't think that, like, ruins the kid's name because it was, like, from this one spot, and then she's growing into her own name. It's not like the name no longer is still only, the name, as soon as it's given to the child upon birth, it becomes theirs and they do what they want with it. You know what I mean? If that makes sense? Yeah. Whereas, like, no longer is just this, you got it from this one point of origin and then went off. I suppose. I don't know that I necessarily agree with that because it's it's like, you know, the 12 apostles or whatever, right?

And you're like, you're looking through the names, but it's like before Jesus was crucified. You're like, oh, I'm going to name my kid, Judas. Sure. And then Judas is the one that betrays Jesus, you know? And like that name is loaded forever, forever. You know, that name means something. Hitler's like, you think that there's like a bunch of kids named Hitler? I'm sure that there's some white supremacist kids that are named that are not.

That is just unfortunate, you know? Yeah. But I think, but I think the Hitler, family, like, he had a sister or cousins. I don't know, something like where I think they changed their names and so like that. Sure. But I think that's a dead name for a good reason. But so I think that, yeah, you're just setting your kid out there and that's your intent. And that might be their intent.

But if you're kids named Judas and it's, you know, the kids out there in the real world, well, that name has a connotation that is extremely negative. And there's nothing you can do about that. So that's the only, that's the only, that's the only. point that I'm, you know, to be a Judas is to be a traitor, right? Exactly. That's why you wouldn't do it because the name's already so tainted. Right, but I'm saying

if in the time, if they didn't wait long enough to watch Jesus get betrayed. To wait to see the one man who betrayed the son of God, yes. I mean, yeah, I don't know if Colise's story, Game of Thrones is the exact thing. But I mean, I'm also the guy who always does that thing where it's like

you, I don't, like, if I'm mean to somebody or say some, I'm always joke around or mean to each other's like, oh, I'll be like, oh, I hope you're playing crashes, which I would never say. But if I did, right? And if it was playing crashes, you're going to feel really bad. And it did crash, I'd be like, well, that was weird. I wouldn't feel bad about it.

In the same way, like, yeah, not at all. I didn't fucking will your plane to crash. Get over yourself. I didn't got psychic powers. Even though maybe I would go, I hope that, I hope that State Puff marshmallow man falls over. And I just say it over and over again to see if I do have powers that can make State Puff Marshmoreman fall down. That's what I see.

I can say the camera. I could say, Kevin, it doesn't matter. but it's the same way with the name where it's like I like the name like I like the name Barbara right and I'd be naming whatever

after a bad girl and I'd call her babs and all these different things right but I wouldn't like you know spoilers for what happened a long time ago and the killing joke

right she gets paralyzed or whatever it's not like I don't think I'm setting my kid up to get paralyzed or to be cursed or something the rest of it yeah I don't know

after New 52 she miraculously started walking but she but that's not the point that's not what I'm saying like that's not her fault that happened it doesn't make her a bad person or taint her character

there. In other words, what I'm saying is that if you're going to do this, it's fine. I think you should do whatever you want as your kid, but give it enough, I just encourage people to give it enough space to make sure things are wrapped up and you have a full feeling of what the name means in general popular culture, whether it's with games or with comics or with movies and stuff like that, because you just don't

know, like, I would hate to find someone in a position where that person ends up, like, that name ends up being a stain on that child who didn't ask to be that name to that because there's an association that they wasn't anticipated because they didn't wait long enough. And that kind of shit definitely is going to happen to people that are naming. I don't think there's that many names, though, that, like, have that level of... Calisi would never be Judas, is what I'm saying.

That was just an example. I don't know what's so funny about it, really. Like, I don't see, like, how that, like, I'm just being honest. Like, Kaleisi is just an example of, like, you just don't know what that character, like, what's going to happen with that character? What's, like, just be patient and wait. You know, if you're naming your kid after, like, a fictional character that you have no control over the fate of until all said and done, there's no reason that it was not wait.

And that was the point I was trying to make was, like, I want to name my kids after are like historical figures and if I have kids and we have enough time and distance to just be able to judge them actually. You can't really like hold off a name your kid, you know? No, but you can hold off on using a name that you don't, that could be loaded later on. I'm just saying it's not going to hurt you, it's going to hurt them.

I think that's a totally reasonable and not funny thing to say. I don't, you know, Mike, that's just... It's interesting I was reading an article a while back, I think I talked about this on Game of Grady Show at some point, but it was like looking at each year and what the most popular names are and that there's always a high percentage of them,

that are names that are unique to that year based on pop culture and what was going on at that time. And it's so weird to look at it and just be like, oh man, there was, I'm sure there was a lot of, yeah, that going on. And then, um... Someone out there's name, Millen. When high school musical came out, like, in the top ten names of the year,

like five of them were character names from high school musical. Oh, really? And, like, or the actor's names. Like, one of them was Zach Corbin, Corbin Blue. Oh, okay. And the Corvins, there was more Corvans than ever before. And like, yeah, now, Khalie. and a lot of Game of Thrones characters are just being thrown out there.

And there was certain video game ones, too. Like, I remember... Hodor. At some point... Someone name your kid Hodor. There's got to be a Hodor. What I really want to know now is, how many judas do you think that are born every year?

Some motherfuckers are, like, I don't care. I like that name. Yeah, I mean, I'm sure that there are judicers out there. I just think that that is like... That's just an example of an exceptionally fucking loaded name. Yeah, obviously. You know? Probably the most extreme version of that you could possibly think of, really.

you know, I'm sure there's other ones, but I don't know, to me, it's just like names are important and they mean something and people always talk about how like you might have a nerdy idea for a name or whatever. It has necessarily nothing to do with games or comics or pop culture, but that, ultimately that child is the one to have to go through life with that name.

And so you just have to be very careful with, you know, I don't think that's not a reasonable thing to say at all, frankly, you know, to just make sure that that's a name they can be proud of or at least a name that doesn't conjure up other images in people's minds of things that are not necessarily good, you know. All right. I looked up the most popular names of 2015 so far.

Yeah. And I'm not, I don't know the sources of many of these. Some of the, I mean, people are getting real creative. I'll tell you what. There's a, for girls' names, A-I-N-S-L-E-Y. That's a character from West Wing. That's probably why it's happening. The proliferation of Netflix.

B-O-N-E-R-Y-O-N-Y. Baroni? B-R-O-N-Y. Brie R-Y-O-N-Y Eleanor E-I-R-E-R-E-R-E-R-E-R-E-R-E-R-E-R-E-R-E. No, these are- These are-Is like most popular new names? Yeah, new words.

No, no, no, no. The 100 hottest baby names of 2015. Yeah. It's the most kids being named this shit. Chair-L-L-L-E-L-E-L-S-E. I mean, I'm reading. Primrose, P-R-I-M-R-S-E. That's from The Hunger Games.

Oh, is it? Yeah. Well, so there you go. The. P-P. Pandora. Yeah, that's a great name to name your kid. Spotify's up next.

Like, are you kidding? Like, that's an example. That's an example of, like, people maybe are just, maybe most people will go through their lives out. That's like a really negative name to have. Pandora. Why are people like not thinking about these? They're taking it back, Colin. It's a pretty name. Man, these, yeah, there's PACs.

Someone, a dude named PAC. PAX? Yeah. God damn it, Penny Arcade. All these babies, all these babies are getting conceiving? popping up. I'm going to get credit to to retin link for that one. All right.

Anyways, yeah, it's interesting to think about it. I'm glad that people are getting more creative with names though because names are just very stagnant right now.

You know, like, I, I want to, that's why, like, I just want to go back and just find,

when I was younger, I always knew I wanted to name my kid after, kids after historical figures and I used to, when I was younger, I was like, Madison would be a great name

and so like that. That name is so overused now. So, like, you have to get like more and, like, again, it just happens over and over again with names that are once creative that then people latch onto and use over and over again. Jackson's another

great example. Those are great names but now everyone's named Jackson and Madison. So, like, I've been in like so many situations where like with little kids running around a store or whatever where like parents are yelling at them Jackson or Madison. I'm like, Jesus Christ, there's a lot of these kids out of here. So you have to like go deeper into the well based on like what you're inspired by and so

I've wanted to, I love the idea of even taking names that are not necessarily even, that don't even really sound like first names and working in the first names. Roosevelt's a great example of that. And just calling it, just a girl calling her rose, whatever. But just finding a name

that you can identify with this great and whether that's in history or whether that's in comics or movies or whatever. I just say, like, wait until that, if it's a real person, wait until they're dead

so there's nothing fucking bad that can happen. And if it's a video game character, wait until you know, or a comic book character, just wait. You know, because ultimately, you know,

you could be setting your kid up for getting teased and just having to carry through this name. You know, Cleesey's probably going to end up being a fucking terrible person at the end of the at the end of the books. If she's not already dead, I don't know. I don't really care at this point.

All right. So, topic number three comes from read booming. Yes, I do. Well, hold on. See, there's, here's the problem with these things. They always have their question,

but it's surrounded by a bunch of, like, notes to us and all this stuff. Sure. So I don't even know the context of this because you just copy and paste it in. I should probably erase that before I read this. Yeah, me helpful. I'm going to do that. But anyway, my topic. is with the four main gaming companies

slash services Nintendo Xbox PlayStation and PC, aka Steam Steam? Do you guys see a future where any of them merged together or buy each other and do you think they should? For example Nintendo publishing games for PlayStation or Steam store on Xbox Colin?

merging no making games for each other sure I think Nintendo is obviously the most likely culprit to make games for someone else out of that group for individual Steam I think is so ingenious and makes so much money that there's no reason for them to do anything. I think that if they just kind of held Pat that they'd be fine. Although I still wonder what the future of PC gaming is ultimately when compared to console gaming as well.

I don't know that either of them are necessarily safe. And what I mean by that is that there might be some sort of ubiquitous gaming apparatus in the future, a unified console that is neither necessarily a console nor PC. That is just something you plug into a TV or plug into a monitor or whatever. So I don't know that. I don't think any of them are necessarily safe from one another. I think people talk about PC gaming is having longer legs, and I think that's probably true,

but I think that ultimately all these guys, if they want to survive in this space, will be making games for one system in the future. I just don't know when... I think people thought that that might have even been now. 10 years ago, for instance, yet we are still in this space, so who the fuck really knows?

But Microsoft, I think it's likely that Microsoft sells Xbox at some point that that's been rumored for a long time, and I think that that's entirely possible. Sony makes so much money off a PlayStation compared to what Microsoft makes on Xbox that they kind of need them, although I think it's possible

that they spin off eventually as well. And then Nintendo, I think, you know, we'll see what happens with NX, but I think that I don't think it's out of this world at all to consider the fact that they'll probably be making games for those two guys if NX fails. Yeah, that's, I mean, I think how it will go down, right? And Nintendo will eventually end up putting games everywhere, becoming Sega 2.0, but being successful.

Going on and doing that, and then, yeah, they're not going to get bought. They're going to still have money in the coffers because they're getting and be making money because their developers are making awesome games that work and are super fun to play, and now you can play them on anything. I think the most likely scenario has in there would be, yeah, Xbox doing something with Steam.

You know what I mean? That's interesting. I've never even really thought about that. I don't know how it would work, though, because just the fact of the, you need the controller compared to the mouse. But that's the whole thing with the Steam boxes and their controller and all that goofy stuff, right?

I mean, there is a big picture mode. It's not out of the realm of possibilities to think about there being, you know, how do you compete with? with Guy Kai or whatever, you know, PlayStation now. Not that you really need to anymore because it's nothing. But, you know, in the future, right, when it is better and there is even less latency, that yeah, you're using your Xbox 2, your Xbox 2 to get it.

And you have your Steam app, Big Picture Mode app that is connecting to the games you've bought on Steam to play them through here to do this, like, you know, stream it off or download a little bit and play through it and keep downloading in the background and stuff like that. That could work. It wouldn't be every game, obviously, but there'd be games where it could work and do that. And that would be the thing you would need to, you figure, is like, the, you see it right now with Windows 10, right? It's like, the walls continue to fall down.

So Microsoft is just one company, right? And it is one platform and all that stuff. When those are, when those barriers are gone, then it hopefully communicates even better with steam. It does give you that PC-like experience if that's what you want. And so that's the thing. The, you know, the problem there would be if they get spun out if Xbox does, which you hear the rumor about all the time that people are looking at that. And that's a way, you know, a way Microsoft would want to do Xbox. Well, think of the stuff that's not like.

but just like hypothesizing on what could happen. If Nintendo were to actually merge with one of the companies, do you think that there would be a major difference between Nintendo merging with PlayStation or merging with Xbox? I mean, in terms of like what the companies would look like in terms? Yeah. I mean, whoever emerged with would be,

that'd be fucking insane. And that would be really, really, really hard to overcome, I feel like, right? Especially if it was, like, we've merged with Xbox. And now on Xbox Live, everything from virtual console is up, right? Like, that would be insane. There's Chewisbo's on and everything like that. In terms of, like, what it looks like, I assume, right?

I mean, I feel like Xbox is such a Western company. That would be the thing, right? It's like they're already so Western versus how so Japanese Nintendo is. Whereas with Sony, I feel like, is siloed as Sony is on territory to territory developer to developer, that they'd pretty much be left alone. You know what I mean? Whereas I think Nintendo would try, or Xbox, Nintendo would try to make it much more Mario's everywhere on your dashboard or whatever,

like the chief and him are doing stuff, all this left and right. Whereas, like, I feel like if they were to merge with Sony, and obviously I keep talking as if I'm giving, Sony's buying Nintendo is how I'm thinking it in my head, right? Yeah. But it would be that, yeah, that they would just be another first-party developer. And obviously, that's not exactly what it would be, but that's how I feel like they'd be run. You know what I mean? Like from the Nintendo group, here's what we have.

yeah i think i mean that would never happen for i mean we were i know it was all hypothetical nintendo is way more valuable than than xbox or playstation so if anyone was going to merge with anyone else i think it would be like xbox and playstation merging to survive um in a in a future but just because nintendo's IP alone is is worth so much more than than what you know playstation and xbox's prolific outputs are uh because of the bad blood of between sony and nintendo going back a long time as we've said before there's no way that they i i i find it if they were going to make if nintendo is going to go third party, but do something exclusive

they would actually do with Xbox. But I think that the future is that they just make games for everybody. But, yeah, I mean, just monetarily, it's hard to talk about that and even in a hypothetical sense because Nintendo is just really valuable compared to the PlayStation as a brand is very valuable

and the Xbox is a brand is very valuable, but I think Nintendo based only on their IP and the fact that when you buy, then they wouldn't turn to a first party suit. They already have like 15 of them. So it would be like, you know, you're getting a whole of a roster. It's like an incredible, it's, it's that's a big that's a heavy lift you know um

I'd be super interested to see how that all went down how many conversations there's been Colin have there been ever legitimate conversations you think between Xbox and Nintendo in terms of getting an exclusive game no no I would love to think that there have been I would just love to think

when Xbox was trying to fucking overthrow the world they went there and like hey just check no okay cool I mean maybe they had those dealers out there I don't think Nintendo would laugh at it no and I totally agree with you you, I totally agree with you. I just wonder. Maybe. I, you know,

it's, again, as you said so many times, I wouldn't have ever guessed that they would have finally swallowed their pride and went on mobile. So, I don't think we're too far off. Especially if NX is a disaster, like Wii is, then we're not too far off from them putting their games on other consoles. And they should. That's what they should do.

They're not, they don't make good hardware, and that's fine. That's totally fine. They make great games, and they should focus on that, not even worry about the hardware anymore. I wish that we were in that future. I think that would be fantastic for gamers, but we're not in that place yet. And I'm still interested to see what NX is. I think if they can pull a rabbit out of their hat,

I think it's totally possible. The rumors, whether it's substantiated or not about it, that doesn't sound too promising, in terms of power anyway, which is going to be necessary to attract third-party support. It seems like it's just kind of like Groundhogs Day. But who knows?

I'm trying to remain optimistic about NX because we literally don't know anything substantial about it at all. We don't know anything about it other than rumors, so I don't know. What do you think the difference would be between Nintendo going third party for everybody and Nintendo merging with one of the two

straight up. What do you mean? I mean, the difference would be huge for whoever they did that with. So what do you think it would mean, not for the companies themselves, but more just for like how, like what would the products,

how would the products differ between those things? I think the digital offerings on whoever Net and Nintendo would be huge, like Greg said. I mean, they just have a huge cattle at hundreds and hundreds of games they can put on those systems. And then they're going to get all their developers. So you're going to have your fire emblems and your Mario's. I mean, it would finally be a lot of stuff.

What we're talking about all the time with PlayStation 4 and Xbox One is the fact that there's no diversity between these two consoles. It's exclusives, and that's it. You know what I mean? That's why we're always like, well, it would have been really interesting to see Xbox commit to their vision. And we are on this entertainment box. We are connected, and we're going to show you why you should love it, right? Because then there would have been parity there. There would have been something different.

When you finally, if in this weird world, Nintendo comes in and merges with one of them, then finally there is, I think, hands down, a definitive winner. There's a definitive leader. This is why, which box should I buy? You should buy Sony's Nintendo bucks. You know what I mean? Like, you should get, it's everything you love from Sony and everything you love from Nintendo in one, you know what I mean?

And sure, you're going to miss exclusives like Halo or vice versa. You're going to miss exclusives like Uncharted, but you're going to get every one of these Nintendo games. Yeah. Classic things you've missed. You're going to get the brand new Mario, the brand new Metroit eventually. You know what I mean? Yeah, I guess, I guess the question I'm asking to put it in a better way is,

Do you think that Nintendo going third party would mean that you're only getting the, like, a few core games everywhere, whereas if they merge, then you would get all the little developers making the different games? Because if Nintendo were to just go third party, does that mean games like Fire Emblem and F0 and, I mean, Metroid would probably be safe? But, like, there's certain ones that's like they would not be a thing anymore. And all of a sudden, third, like, it's that you look at Sega. I see you're saying, I see you're saying. I don't know. I think even third party you're still getting fire emblem.

You know what I mean? There's still an audience for that, whether it probably be a phone game. If they're trying to be, you know, mobile and stick with what's already working, right? If they're trying to change, I think that's what you would see, right? Is that the big exclusives you think about,

your Zelda, your Mario, and I'm talking about, you know, the console quality games that they put on Wii now, right, would go everywhere. And the games you think of for your DS would probably go to the mobile market.

Or be, yeah, maybe it's mobile and download stuff. You know what I mean? They're downloadable titles, but they'd still be there. I think they'd be in the, if they're going to go that way, they'd be in the PSN drop and the Xbox Live, you know, download thing. I don't think it would be, okay, these are only on phones and these are only there. That's not, they want to make money.

They want it as many places they can get it. Yeah, I think it's the opposite, really. I think that the smaller, the big games are going to do even better, and the smaller games will have a bigger platform for people to play them because they're not going to be stranded on Nintendo hardware anymore. So, like, I think that, like, it opens up a whole new world of wonder for Metroid and F0 and all these things. Like, if you could not stranded on Wii,

but put it on consoles that people actually own and play and engage with on a regular basis, then obviously Mario's going to do even better, but of course then you're going to be able to open up a reality where an F zero game could sell a few million copies or a Metroid game can sell more than a million or two million copies. I think that if anything, it helps the smaller games, you know, and I think that Nintendo just grows from that point.

That's why it's so exciting for them to be a really, to be an Activision almost. Not as a manualization, but... That's the thing there is, like, if they want to be... third party, what would that even look like? Because I've always kind of thought in my head just that it would be, they'd be much smaller, and they would just be making

these games, and they would have more of a schedule of, you know, maybe the two games a year or whatever. But to think of them as an Activision where they are doing a whole bunch of shit at once is very interesting. Yeah, I mean, if they, I mean, if they went third party, cut out hardware and kept the status quo otherwise, I mean, they would

still be putting out 10, 12, 15 games a year. I mean, plus they could be a publisher of games, you know, they can, they can be they would be obviously publishing their own internal games like they do now but and but they can be identifying and finding developers to work with like they have been on WiiU especially

like platinum to to deal with and publish their games too Nintendo could be huge and I feel like I feel like the ironic thing is that Nintendo and I think some Nintendo fans think that Nintendo is best equipped to be a hardware manufacturer but actually think Nintendo can be bigger than ever if they weren't oh yeah and be like a dominant if not the dominant force

in quality AAA games not to met, but then unlike Activision and to a lesser extent, unlike Ubisoft and unlike, you know, EA, they would have smaller games too, because I think that that's part of their heritage, and they don't have to charge $50 or $60 for all these games. They can charge $10 or $15 or $20 if they want to release those games on

something like Vita, although Vita wouldn't get the games, but something like a mobile platform in the future or a future handheld. I think it's unpredictable, it's an interesting question because I think Nintendo's de-complexion Nintendo changes radically if they do something like that, and I think we're going to see that. And, um,

depending on the fate of NX. Cool. All right, guys. Final topic, as always, is a whole smorgasbord of questions from the audience. These are not Patreon. These are from kind of funny.com slash forums. So go there, leave your topic.

We'll get to it. It's going to be a fun time. Just like Dan Phillips did. He wants to know what game magazines did we grow up reading and have a subscription to? EGM. What's trying to give me monthly with it for me, man? Like I had a game informer too, obviously, when they made their deals with EB at the time.

I picked up GamePro. That was like the gross, you know, the supermarkets one where I'd page through it and then asked Mom if I could get it. But EGM was the one that I subscribed to straight up and was with forever. You know what I mean? Until it ran out until it was over. And like that's, you know, my stories always go back. I always talk about the fact that, you know, in fourth grade I had the game pro and that's when I'd all dawn down me. But like the review crew of, you know, Shue and Che and stuff like that, like that was the one.

Those were my, like, idols growing up. You know what I mean? And, like, to the point that, like, obviously, I was told a story of, like, there's only been two times in my life when I couldn't stop talking. Number two was when I met Shue for the first time when I was working at IGN and just unloaded on him at a holiday party, how, like, he changed my life and all this stuff. And he's like, cool, and, like, backed away and, like, left. But, like, even, like, and that was, like, year one of IGN.

And then last year, at RTX, I ran into Che for the first time at Torchis Takas. And we sat down and I was playing it cool and I was fine. And I'm like, by the way, You totally changed my life too. He's like, oh, don't say that. I remember what he said his name. Like, that was all those things. I was like, I've never met, never met a Che before.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I looked at him like, oh, my God, it's him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is crazy. Yeah, and I mean, I don't know if that sounds weird. I mean, it probably sounds weird to the younger people now who don't, who, you know, there are so many games personalities, right? But, like, EGM was the one that had, like, here's, we are showing you their face.

Here's the information about them, and here's what they're playing right now, and here's a little anecdote. him characters. I think that's kind of the most important thing is like, you know, sushi X and, um, and uh, what's his name? Sean Baby. Oh, Sean Baby. And all that stuff. It's like they, they were the ones that were really

kind of making this a pop culture thing where it's like the act of reviewing the games and the people reviewing the games were people, characters, things, you know, like that you could latch onto. And I think that was really the start of, at least that I remember, of latching onto people and wanting to know their opinions. Exactly.

And you'd come through and you'd see like, okay, Shoe likes games, X, Y, and Z, and, you know, shame likes this, this and this. And you'd go to the review and there'd be differences in their scores. And you could do the thing of like, oh, that's cool, but I agree more with Shue's favorite games right now. So that's why his opinion has waited more to mean more for me. Like, you know what I mean?

Like, again, I know that sounds so pedestrian now, obviously, right? There's 15,000 reviewers everywhere. So you know, if Colin says something, but Jim says something, but I say something, that it's, you know, whatever. It's, you know, everyone's opinion on everything. You know everybody so well, but that was so groundbreaking at the time. You know what I mean? Let alone the fact of how thick those magazines used to be.

Oh, my God. The December issue every year, that's like 248 pages. Yeah. Lots of ads, but like lots of information on all these different games. Yeah. And then you get your E3 one, like, you know, and afterwards, and you see all these photos. And that was it.

Like, that's how you got your E3 information. And it was just like, I'll never forget seeing the issue of EGM after the E3 where they announced Mario Sunshine, Metroid Prime, and Windwaker. Yeah. And all three everyone were on the cover. And I was like, shut up. Yeah.

You know, this is crazy. Yeah. And, but yeah, EGM's definitely my answer. That is my, the one that I loved the most.

But I went in on all of them, man. Really? Yeah, Game Pro and PSM were my low, wrong ones that I didn't need to. Yeah. Cover stories. What's the cover story?

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, we'll see. But official PlayStation magazine, that demo disc. Yeah, yeah. That was such a big thing. That was so expensive. I couldn't get it every month.

But, like, it because the demo is that was an experience in itself that's such great idea you need to have and then once I got my Xbox there was the I forgot what was called the official Xbox magazine that was all right but then of course Nintendo Power yeah yeah I was a Sega kid right so I mean I was Nintendo Kid so it's like Nintendo Power to me was like

I'll never the reason I know about Pokemon was Nintendo Power yeah had this little comic book that was like the first issue or the first episode of the Pokemon cartoon but in comic book form. Sure. And it also was like a strategy guide for like the first, whatever,

like gym or whatever. And I was like, what is this? Yeah. I need it. And that's the power of those magazines. Yeah.

And it's, I'll always remember them. And I, when I moved, I had to throw my collection out and it was heartbreaking. But I went through issue by issue of all my Nintendo powers,

all my EGMs, all my gaming for everything. Yeah. And any, if I looked at it and it resonated with me, I kept it. Yeah. So I still have a box full

of like the most important issues. Yeah. That's why I still have it on the bookshelf. I think it is that my PlayStation 2 launch edition of EGM. That blue cover and that was like. Yeah. Yeah.

Because it was like they had, it was like, it was like the most like EGM like on point with everything. But it was the most like off weird thing. Like their whole thing of like it was like all these models like walking into a house of all the launch games are like playing PS2 in the pool. You're like what the fuck are you doing? But like you still it was just like the art. So, you know, coming to this thing and like walking through DVDs and like how this is

going to work and what the. launch lineup was like holy shit and I remember that was one like I kept forever and I took it with me to on October 26 2000 to wait in line or October 25th to wait in line for the midnight launch right and me and my friend Adam just passing it back and forth reading it and like fantasizing about what's going to be ghostbusters special features yeah oh my god that's that's so crazy just think about and for me it was the hundredth issue of eGM I think that will go down in history as the most important thing to ever happen to me as a gamer and for who I am today.

Yeah. Because they did the top 100 games of all time list in that. And now lists are fucking everywhere. Sure, sure, sure. It's like IGN has a top 25 list every two seconds about games. But to me, that was the first time I'd ever seen lists, video games ranked. Right. And like, here's the 100 best games of all time.

And that must have been 1998 or nine, maybe 99 when it happened. And I read that thing back to front or front to back, back to front, any which fucking way so many times that those hundred games became embedded in my memory of like oh shit these means something to video games and i was young at that point that i missed out on so much stuff none of final fantasy didn't mean anything to me i didn't know what it was like all the ship didn't to look through and to see them review or to see how high final fantasy six was or final fantasy seven and um to see that where they like that was why i played super metroid it was uh the number two i think on that list and it introduced me to all these different games

games. Like, I had just played Mario. I just played, like, core Nintendo games. And to see the history of video games in that perspective, I was like, holy shit, like, I need to get in on this. And then slowly I went through and played the majority of those games now. Yeah. You know, what about you, Colin? From, like, the late 80s to, like, the mid-90s Nintendo Power was, was my jam, and those were really special times. Although, when you look back and realize that Nintendo Power was basically just a mouthpiece, I think, I think we remember Nintendo Power a little too fond of, but to be honest.

And it's not to say they were dishonest. It's just to say that I feel like they focused a lot on the positive and not necessarily the negative. But I mean, that's Nintendo. You know? Yeah, but we didn't, but it wasn't clear when you're a kid, really, that Nintendo owns this magazine.

You know, like, that Nintendo puts this magazine out and stuff like that. And it was fine because I didn't really give a fuck anyway. I just, I loved that magazine. And I still have some of them, but I used to rip them apart and, like, put things on my wall from the ones to the whole time. I just had, like, all these ads on my wall,

basically had, like, great Nintendo games. I remember random ones, like I had a Snow Brothers ad on my wall and so I'm like, wow, I know this one. That's what I missed the most about these magazines, so it's how good the ads were. Yeah, the ads were different. Yeah, the ad I remember the most for some reason

is a later ad that was in EGM and EGM2, which was the Gex one with the car and the hot chick. Yeah. The band-ex. Yeah. But yeah, by the mid-90s, so I had Nintendo Power from, I mean, my brother got it like the Mario 2 one and the Castlevania ones were really the early ones,

so it was very beginning. All the way through, I would say, I don't know. I remember getting Donkey Kong Country and I don't know it's probably like 95, 96

around N64 and then EGM I liked because it was agnostic so I could learn a little bit more about the things that I didn't have

even though and kind of learn about why I should really cool my Sega playing friends and stuff like that and then EGM2

I really loved a lot because and EGM2 was actually when I consider how I got into the industry and I got an industry more writing technical documents

and facts and stuff like that EGM2 was super instrumental in that. And maybe you love strategy and stuff like that. And strategy guides. Because EGM2 was all about, was all about tips and tricks and stuff like that. Then there was extreme gamer. Was that what the other one was?

That was the strategy one? I don't remember. Did EGM2 become that? Maybe it did. EGM2 went away eventually. I remember getting something in the mail. Yeah, I remember getting something in the mail being like EGM2 is no longer a thing. And I remember like what if it was another magazine or whatever.

And then I got for two years in the late 90s next generation, which was really, really good. like very high quality publishing and stuff like that. And it was more insight into more like the stuff that I ended up writing, I guess, actually later on. So I guess that that was pretty influential. And then I remember very clearly my friend Stephen, who I played hockey with when I lived in New Hampshire, had a PS1 before I did and he got the first issue of PSM,

which was the Final Fantasy 7 issue, if I remember correctly. And I remember being at his birthday party, I think it was like 7th or 8th grade. And I guess it was 7th grade. I was flipping through it and was it was the seventh grade no I guess I was

going to eighth grade actually and I remember flipping during being this is awesome and had the lid cover of the smiley face and all that kind of stuff and I took the thing

out of it and subscribed and I got PSM from issue two to so that was 97 to 2004 2005 so that was the magazine I probably got the most

and I stopped even reading it probably I just got them actually like I think at some point they just kept sending it to me like I don't even remember renewing that after a while

I think I probably paid them like $30 in total and got like PSN was like, PSM was super cheap. It was like $10 for two years or something because it was just Adelaide and plus they had the websites and that was Imagine Media and stuff like that I think.

So that was it, but I mean by 97, 98 I was reading pretty much all my game news online. So it was a matter of like just having a supplemental thing you can bring on a car rides and ship for whatever. Because you were talking about E3 and all that kind of stuff. Like I don't remember ever being surprised by E3 after like 1990. You know, like, I remember... See, I didn't have a computer.

And, like, a lot of people I knew... Like, my age group didn't have computers, you know? So it's like, to us, we still didn't hear about these games. And to... Yeah, like, I mentioned, like, Winwaker and all that stuff. That was, what, 2002? Winemaker was... No, I would have right, because I was already living at the Atlanta house.

Yeah, it must have been to. 2003. Yeah, 2001 was when GameCube came out. So, yeah, it's like, I'm sure that stuff was all over the internet then, but it's like, that didn't mean anything to me. It might as well not have existed. That was the thing, like, you know, we talk about. about like, you know, old media, new media, how magazines died out and stuff.

I didn't realize it was happening at the time, though, because I was that guy who, you know, had EGM every month and then Game Informer, and then I picked up stuff at the supermarkets, and then that all washed out, washed away. You know what I mean? I remember how important it was to me that I switched my EGM mailing address to Mizzou,

you know what I mean? Because, like, those were friends coming with me, and I wanted that experience and, like, that taste of home. But, yeah, I was all over IGN at that. I mean, I, IGN really came to prominence for me with PlayStation 2 and like the run up to that where every day in computer lab

or whatever the fuck that class was, I'd click over and read it and they had a countdown clock of how close we were to PlayStation 2 and stuff like that. But like EGM, I hung in there until it was all set and done because like that was like a staple.

But it was by the end a quaint staple, right? Like I've read what reviews do they have early and what reviews do they have extremely late? That was always the game, right? Of like, oh, they're gonna be ahead on some and way behind on others. Because the nature of the publishing, I guess. Yeah, I feel like

I remember getting Nintendo Power again in college to specifically to get that Zelda disc for GameCube and then I just canceled it. Because you had to get it. And I was like, well, I guess I have to do it. And I'm glad I did because I wanted that really bad. Real bad. But yeah, the late 90s

was the rise of Merck channels and fan sites and stuff like that. And I felt like I was awash with fucking game news at that point. I was reading random sites that don't exist anymore. Some of them do, like one of my favorite sites when I was a kid was like basically

just a lot of the various niche RPG role playing and strategy sites. There's a lot of them and so like I didn't even really read or like IGN until probably the turn of the century where I was like where I was reading some of the bigger sites because I was so invested in this subculture based on MRI and all

this kind of stuff where people would point you in different directions to find different websites that were just run by a few people in their spare time. And I think some of these websites, like, kind of still exist. And there was something, there was something very personal and very cool about it. You felt like you're in something. You were in the club.

Yeah, I enjoyed it. I felt like it was, it was something very, very enjoyable and very intimate and kind of like what we're trying to maybe do with this. It's almost, I guess what I'm saying is it's almost like what's old is new again, because I feel like, I feel like the internet's almost reverting back to that where people would rather have a more intimate relationship with a few people. and something a little smaller and not these megalithic websites

that really can't please everyone and seems to please fewer people and fewer people as time goes on because they're looking for their little communities that they can kind of lash onto and I think I was very much like that in the late 90s and it's so funny to talk about it because it was like it was a fucking long time ago

yeah I feel like it but it was yeah I mean I'm talking like 17 years ago you know I mean that's an incredible an incredible amount of time but I was so immersed in just video games and I remember how cool it was when my dad got me my own

phone line so I can I had a 56k modem on my Sony bio and I remember that I didn't have to like disconnect and I would stay online forever and I remember I used to obsess over I used to be on aim and I'd have my own name on my aim list and I would obsess over how long I was online and sometimes I'd be able to stay on for like months you know like we're not getting

disconnected and and you would just have like your MRI windows open in your ICQ window which I don't even know anyone uses ICQ anymore do you remember I see you it's like a messenger like a personal messaging system that was based on like digits instead of names and all this kind of stuff and like just obsessing over, like, you're leaving your away message up

when you were gone at school and then coming back and seeing anyone from these various sites message you and all, I don't know. It was a different, closer-knit community, and then I kind of segued over to game facts, and that's kind of how I found my way here. Game facts, man, that was it for me. This makes me think, I want to find the 100th issue of BGM. We should do a topic where we look at the top 100 games.

I'm sure. Because it'd be interesting to look at what the top 100 games in 1999 were. It'd be very different than a top 100 list today. Oh, yeah. God, damn. Maximum Cortez asks, did you ever rent consoles from rental stores? I also want to give a shout out to him. He drew this awesome fan art of me as Ash.

Oh, with the Pokemon. Yeah, and it looks fucking legit. But yeah, did you ever rent consoles? No, I didn't. I want to say I rented a Nintendo console at some point, but I don't remember what it was. I remember really, really, really badly wanting to rent the Game Boy Advance

when it came out and had Fire Pro Wrestling. Oh, that was a launch game. Yeah, I know, I know. Yeah, and I was like, I don't know if I want this console, but I want to play that game so badly. I was going somewhere. I forget where. Were you a FirePro fan?

Did you even know what it was at that thought? I was imported before. I had imported before, yeah, yeah. Because I was always on the hunt for a great wrestling game. Yeah, it was that, that, that, I remember, like, yesterday that Game Boy Advance launch because I got it the day came out and the white, the Arctic white. Yep. GBA and.

What did I get? I got, what did I get? I got Castlevania Circle of the Moon, obviously. Super Mario Advance, which was my first. 2 and then the Dodgeball game. Oh, Dodgeball, yeah. That was a good launch, man.

It was a Rayman game. Yeah, it was a great. Actually, that's what I was kind of thinking in my mind. I'm like, that might be really, I still think that, I know people think I'm crazy, that pound for pound, the Vita launch probably had the best, the best games.

I remember when we were, yeah, we taught, like, there was a lot of just great games for the system, it didn't matter. But I look at Game Boy Advance, and I'm like, there was actually a really solid lineup of games where I remember, I remember buying them,

this is, this is pretty awesome. And GBA, GBA is underrated. I think it came and went a little too fast because the DS kind of came and they wanted to have that three-pillar thing and then the DS ended up just destroying kind of destroying everything.

So I really, really was fine. I remember getting the clamshell too when Pokemon Ruby came out. Clamshel was awesome. That's when I jumped on. Well, that was, it was a mind-changing kind of thing for me because I remember what being so revolutionary

about that was charging it. And I was like, this is so fucking cool. I don't have to buy batteries anymore. I was going through batteries. battery's like fucking crazy. I'm my, on my,

on my, Arctic white, like the flat GBA, so. No headphone, Jack. That's some bullshit. Yeah,

it was weird. Yeah, you got to buy like a proprietary thing, right? Yeah. But I, I remember, it was just so compact

and, and I remember going to Target and buying it. I was like, this is kind of fucking cool, man. I don't know. Yeah, the backlight was everything,

especially because it's, it's so, it's such a, it's so, it's so juxtaposed to circle the moon, especially, it was so dark on that. Like,

You couldn't fucking see that game. I'll never forget that as long. I remember playing like under a lamp. You know, like, this is so fucking dark. Like, how are you supposed to play this game? And those problems were solved with the inclusion of a backlight, which was, you could only do when you can charge the system. So it was kind of an ingenious way to go because at that point we were charging our cell phones.

We were kind of getting used to that sort of thing. So, yeah, I really am very fond of the Game Boy advance. And I don't feel like a lot of people talk about it anymore. It was the death of the Game Boy. That is a great lineup, too. When you go back and look at all the games that came out on it. A lot of great role playing games. And I still say, I know some people think I'm crazy,

I still think the definitive version of Final Fantasy 6 is on GBA. Just because it was portable and it was tight and it's how we remembered it and it wasn't on the fucking PS1. I hated that fucking version. It wasn't as bad. Chronal trigger was the really bad one on PS1. I never forget that as long as I live. How disappointing that was.

I rented a PS2 during the launch weekend from Blockbuster. Damn, how did you get your hands on it? I just, I knew the people of Blockbuster. It was definitely like a thing. where I knew that I wasn't going to get that system. Yeah, yeah. Like, I didn't get a PS2 until the time around when Oni Musha came out. So it was like a little, a little bit later.

I think, right? Yeah, spring 2001. Because Anymusha 2 came out summer 2002. Yeah. So I remember renting it, and I got Fantavision and Street Fighter. Was EX? EX, whatever the hell. And I was just like, oh, God.

Yeah, Fantavision I won. Fantavision, I don't think is that bad, but it was, that was what was so funny is the PS2's launch sucked. Yeah. And like that and what was so... Smuggler's run. Smugglers run. Oh, SSX was rented so I couldn't get it. And that's why I wanted it. Smuggler's run in Madden

were the standouts because like Madden looks so real. You couldn't believe how real this fucking game looked. Yeah. What I remember about the PS2 launch was because so I got my PS2 today the day came out. My mom bought it for me and my birthday was right before it. So the agreement as I've said before was that it would be my birthday present and my Christmas present. And the only way you can get a

PS2 at GameStop, which was EB at the time for me, was you had to buy a console, a warranty, a controller, a memory card in a game was $500. And I remember my mom being like, this is a lot of money. So if you want this, you know, this is all you're getting. I was like, that's fine. And I remember back then you could bring your, I can't believe we still could, like we could have done this in the 90s and early 2000s. And you guys probably remember, you could just bring back your games like after a week and just opened and played and just be like, I don't want this anymore. And like, and they would take it back.

back and I remember doing, I did that for the PS2, not to be a dick, but like probably four times because I'm like, these games suck. You know what I mean? I, I think Genji or whatever was one of the first games I got, then I think I was what it was called. Then I ended up with Summoner, and I'm like, oh, damn, I fucking hate this game. Because I was looking at the line of, I was such a role-playing game nerd, and I'm like, what is, there's nothing here for me. Like, there's nothing I want to play. I ended up with smugglers around, which was fine, but an NHL, 2001, I guess it was, right? Yeah, or maybe 2002, so I don't know what No, we went on one.

It would have been a one. And they were fun, but I was like, the PS2 launch had the highest volume of games, because there was a lot of games, and none of them were good. Yeah. That's like what I remember the most. I was like,

there's nothing here. Like, Fantavision is a first party game. Like, I can't believe they didn't just, and from software, made a few of those games, those launch games that sucked,

which a lot of people don't know. And now they're, you know, famous for Dark Souls and stuff. But I remember that launch being so, like, so voluminous, I guess we'll call it, but not rife with quality. Sure.

I would have preferred a launch more like PS3s where there were good games plus third party games and then PS4's launch I think was even better. So for me it was silent scope. I remember Hemming and Holland. Do I want silent scope or mad and I was like I'll get silent scope and yeah I played it at first day and I went back to the store

I was like please give me mad. That's so funny. I can't believe like we I remember doing that with so I remember doing that with Beyond the Beyond I remember doing that with saga frontier which I fucking hated I hated that game. I was so disappointed in that game because I think when I bought Final Fantasy Tactics they advertised that game I would buy anything that had square

on it for like years like anything The Bouncer I liked the Bouncer. I liked the Bouncer That was actually one of the first I know people don't like that was one of the first PS2 games that was actually good I remember trying to force myself to like the Bounce and I just kind of do it It wasn't bad it was stylish it was

It was the PS2 took a long time to burn it really wasn't until Ane Musha came out that we had I think Anya Mousha might be the first really great game for the console And then it kind of came in it was home in 2002 but at that point, what was funny about the PS2 was, by the time GameCube came out, PS2 was there and I played a lot of it,

but I was more into the GameCube, and the GameCube just had better games, like, period. Like, I just think that, like, I just think the GameCube was, like, so strong. And so I would play, you know, the Grandath Autos and a lot of games on PS2, but I was all about that fucking GameCube, man. And PS2 could have had me probably more,

I expected the PS2 to add me, have its hooks in me a little bit more than it did, considering how poor that launch lineup was, It was it was they launched it on hype And in fact that it was a DVD player It didn't matter It was very similar to the PS4 Where it didn't seem like

It mattered Yeah What was on it? You know, I'm just like people were just buying it anyway I was like, excited Yeah

And then actually the first great great great game Was Metal Gear Solid 2 That's what I was gonna say But I was just because Only Mushan I remember being Divisive right? Like I wasn't super into it But Adam Brown I remember loved it

You know what I mean But like Metal Gear Solid 2 Suns of Liberty Was the one where everybody was like this And that was what's that was 2001 fall 2001 yeah so that's yeah and then g gta 3 which was before metal gear

I that was September October right and then Metal Gear was November that sounds right I think it was October than November and then yeah so I remember yeah and then and then that was around time when GameCube came out so it was it was uh then it was all about smash and stuff like that that that fall that that that Christmas season

I don't know man and then I remember I don't know why I remember it was it must have been like August 2002 around their July 2002 when when I think Super Mario Sunshine 2, and Ani Mushet 2 came out the same day. Was that in August? It was probably, yeah, somewhere in there.

And I remember my dad picking them up for me and being really mad that I told them to go to the mall. I'll never forget it. But I was like, I want those games. I need those games. I need it. You know, and then I wrote a, I promptly wrote a fact for Sunshine.

Yeah, I remember getting sunshine. The day came out. From EB. I'm so old. We're so old. 13 years ago that sunshine came. Holy fuck. That's crazy.

What a game. Ladies and gentlemen, this has been the kind of funny games cast. Please come back every week. Whether or not you think it's worth a dollar. I'll always think it's worth a dollar. Yeah, this was a good talk. This was a good one. This is the shortest Q&A section.

Well, not the shortest. This is a long Q&A session, but only two topics, two questions. Oh. We went off on them. Oh, interesting. Let me reiterate, don't name your kids after characters that are still active. I think the, here's the, I got hung up. up on it too because you kept saying I don't understand what's so ridiculous about it.

What's so crazy about your statement about Deneer or what is it, Calisi. Because she's got 15 fucking names in this goddamn bookers. Her name, right? I didn't want to get into it. I don't want to get into all her fucking stupid names. What I'm saying, the funny thing about this is you're like, you keep comparing it to Judas, which is a story, not every kid, but lots of kids learn and no.

I don't think seven, eight years from now on the playground, all these kids are going to remember Game of Thrones. The parents might be like, oh, you know, oh, Calisi, like. the Game of Thrones thing. I don't like that awful woman. Oh, the one who kicked the punted the babies in the sky. I don't know.

George Railroad Martin really phoned it in there. I just think you gotta be cautious. I like the idea, like I said, I think that needs to be more creativity with names. Absolutely. And I love people taking inspiration from anything like I, from books or whatever games.

But you gotta be careful. Real question is. I be real careful. Since the rise of us, podcast beyond, kind of funny. How many kids have been named Shuhay? I don't know.

In Japan? No, here. In the States. I don't know. I mean, that's a very... Shuhay Moriarty. That's a very interesting question because I wonder... Yeah, Shouhahe Moriarty.

That would be... That would be interesting. A lot of Tabascusis, too, of it. Tobuscus. Yeah, there probably is. Pewty Pies running around. The bigger question I'm wondering is if one of our viewers is indeed named Judas. Let us know.

Let us know. Let us know. Let us know. Let us know in the comments. Let us know in the comments. comments pull up. Because is that a name that's used? Have you ever known on Judas?

No, I've never known a Judas, but I have to imagine somebody's named Judas. Some parents are like, fuck it. Yeah, if your name's Hitler, let me know too, because that's weird. Yeah, I know, but like... Shut up, camera.