Kinda Funny Gamescast: Video Game Podcast - Do We Want MORE Zelda Breath of the Wild? - Kinda Funny Gamescast

Episode Date: November 6, 2025

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And it's free. What's up and welcome back to the Kind of Funny Games cast for Thursday, November 6, 2025. Of course, I'm your host Tim Getties. I'm joined today by blessing at Ae Oye Jr. Good day, Tim. And Barrett Courtney.

What a. Making a rare. We gotta stop saying the rare appearance. I've been on game scouts, I think, more this year than any other year. Still rare. He's a rich. Yeah. You know, daily show. You show up once a month. Yeah. Yeah. Always good. Always a pleasure. I'm excited specifically today because we're talking about one of our shared face things. I've heard rare so many times. You're a rare boy. You make you feel special every single time. It doesn't. We got to find a special word. We got, yeah. What's our special word for special bear? Let us know. Super chat in some suggestions. Be nice. Only be nice. Illustrious. or be mean, maybe I'm into that. I don't know what illustrious means. I've heard that word so many times. Like, actually what is the definition of illustrious? It can mean anything.

Because I get the context of it, but yeah, I'm with you. I don't know exactly what it means. Well known, respected, and admired for past achievements. Oh, I'm not. I'd say that about you. I'm one of this thing. I would say kind of the first one. You're more illustrious than a lot of people.

That is true. Well, everybody, this is the game's gas. Each and every weekday, we get together to talk about the biggest reviews, previews and topics and video games live on YouTube, Twitch and podcast services around that darn globe. If you love what we do, please support us with the kind of funny membership on Patreon, YouTube,

Spotify, or Apple Podcasts to get all of our shows ad free and a daily exclusive Gregway. For a chance to be part of this show, YouTube super chat, your thoughts, opinions, questions, whatever you got in. Today's big topic is Zelda, specifically the Breath of the Wild Universe.

So if you have any thoughts, please super chat them in and we'll get to them throughout the show. A little housekeeping for you. We're an 11-person business, all about live talk shows. Today, Games Daily covered the PlayStation Cross-by PC leaked rumors situation. Greg and Bless

broke it all down. You're going to want to check that out. After this games cast, you're going to get our Predator Badlands in review. Should they have called it Predator Goodlands? You're going to have to watch and find out. Then the stream after that is going to be blessed playing Hyrule Warriors Age of Imprisonment,

which is going to be a lot of fun. Hopefully. Hopefully. We'll be. We'll be. Just thinking about how that could have been unbeatable today. I know. It's still messed up.

It's still stings. I was like explaining to Alyssa yesterday. Like everything leading into it and then it actually happening is just like, yeah. Yeah. Like imagine thinking you're going to get ice cream tomorrow. And then somebody comes to you and you're like, you're not going to get ice cream for a month and a week. A month in a week. Yeah.

Oh, man. If you're a kind of funny member, today's Greg Ways 19 minutes about how cool and talented Alana Pierce is. and I'm gonna just say it. That's not a long enough time to cover all the reasons. Yeah. She's insane. Doesn't sleep.

Too much work. Too much quality. Yeah. I agree. Thank you to our Patriot producers, Carl Jacobs. Omega Buster and deleting the Somme Twining. Let's get to it. The topic of the show.

Tots, touch, tuts, tuts, tuts. What if we do we do legendary? Like, you know how they have rarities for items in video games? If you're not rare, we can call you legendary. Just normalize me, is all I'm saying. Uncommon. No. You are uncommon.

Yeah. But I see, I like rare better. Normalized Barrett. You know what? I actually like Uncommon. Because if you don't like rare, if you don't like rare, the uncommon.

Uncommon actually does make sense then. That is an accurate representation of how many times you're on the show. It's odd. Oh, God. What are we doing here? We're talking about Zelda, age of imprisonment.

It is the latest in the High Rule Warriors series. We got a code. And Barrett is the one. that played it to some extent. Yes. What did you, how much have you played? Did you beat this game? Do you have intentions to beat this game?

And what are your overall thoughts? Yeah, I have only put about eight hours into Hirao Warriors, age of imprisonment. And this is an interesting one because I'm coming at this not from like, not even from like a Zelda fan perspective or obviously not a Muso fan perspective, but more so of like someone who's experienced me. Muso crossover games before, particularly with Persona 5 Strikers being the one Muso crossover game that I've actually completed. And I was going into this kind of apprehensive because the one like Dynasty Warriors game I remember playing back at like IGN for a few hours. I remember it feeling at the time like easy, stylish action, not for me, but cool for the people

who have it, right? And then Persona Five Strikers, when that came out, I remember. that feeling almost like an overcorrection to people who are like oh it's simple fun gameplay because you're you're putting the Musa style gameplay into a lot of like systems and strategies of the persona stuff that was

really impressive to see those two different styles of game like married in combat but as I said in my persona ranked video I sucked at Persona 5 strikers like I could just not wrap my head around it and so I was a little apprehensive going into this one because I was like man

even though way back in the day I thought of you know the the general layman's Muso as like kind of easy and simple maybe they're a bit deeper and more complicated than I give it credit for

and maybe this I don't know like what my time is going to be with this type of game especially this being another crossover title and my first Hira Warriors game I've never actually played like the what was the last one age of calamity yeah I didn't play that one

because I heard it ran like booty on the switch one and then there was of course the original Hyrules Warriors game, which was a Wii U game? That's crazy. And so I came in... And then a 3DS game. A new 3DS game.

That's crazy. One of the like four new 3DS games. Damn. Wow. So I was apprehensive going into this and although my first couple of hours, I was kind of brought back to oh yeah, this is simple, fun action.

I don't know if I have a lot going, keeping my momentum going and continuing this game. Now eight hours in, I am actually starting to feel the fun of what this type of game and this type of series offers. I would still say that in terms of like story and world, I don't know if I like have a lot of motivation to continue on. But now that I've really started to unlock a lot of the deeper systems in terms of unlocking like moves, movesets, more characters, and then like really fun combo attacks between characters, there is some something satisfying about going into a field as Raru, my dude, and fighting a hundred,

a hundred Bacoblins at once. And he's got this dope move where he shoots out beams of light out of his hands and then brings them together. So if you have a wide field of Bacoblins, you bring them all to the center while damaging them. There is something really satisfying and cool to that. And so, like, the more I've put time into this game, the more I find myself enjoying it, surprisingly more from the gameplay side and less from the story and lore side of Zelda,

which I wouldn't have guessed going into this. Yeah. Wow. That is very, very interesting. I'm excited to dive deeper into that. Just bringing in some other thoughts and reviews on this. Currently, it's a Metacritic is at 79, which seems to put it on the higher end slightly of the Hyrule Warriors games.

But that is pretty damn impressive for this type of game. and I wanted to bring in Logan Plants review from IGN. We were going to have him on the show, but scheduling stuff didn't work out for that. But I want to just read his verdict here, right? Because a lot of people put out the reviews on embargo a couple days ago, but on launch day, which is today, I guess. Yeah, well, yeah, that's why we're doing it now.

Yep. You can play it today. Logan and IGN held their review because the Nintendo embargo was pretty strict about what they can and can't talk about. and a lot of his more critical thoughts were about some of the story elements that he couldn't talk about without spoilers or anything. But I want to read the verdict here. The Legend of Zelda Tears of the Kingdom left a lot of unanswered questions perfect for exploring in a prequel. But Hyrule Warriors' Age of Imprisonment isn't all that interested in answering them.

What it is interested in is weaving together iconic mechanics from its source material to deliver the best Muso action the series has seen yet. It constantly rewards your knowledge of Tears of the Kingdom through clever, often hilarious moveset. that re-contextualize abilities to fit its over-the-top action, as well as smaller payoffs like boss weaknesses that are consistent across the pair of games. Carving through thousands of enemies remains fun throughout the roughly 18-hour campaign and beyond, thanks to constant upgrades, smart systems

that encourage you to use a variety of characters and great technical performance. It's just a shame that age of imprisonment fails to tell a story worthy of its potential, choosing to deviate from deepening our understanding of tears of the kingdom's lore in favor of focusing on new characters who are completely unrelated.

That direction isn't inherently bad, but if you were hoping for a prequel that meaningfully pulls on lingering threads like the Zonai, Gannadorf, the secret stones, or the sages, you won't find it here. But when the prequel we have to settle for in its place is a seriously fun action game with tons of optional content to keep you going, it's still a trip into the past that's well worth taking. And he gave it an 8 out of 10, great on the eye.

And that was my fear with the story stuff. Again, I'm seemingly about almost halfway through the story. and yeah it feels very not interested in answering a lot of like questions from this world that we still have even after tears of the kingdom um and for and you know from trailers there were characters tees that were like oh are they going to finally start talking about this stuff and it's like now even only being eight hours hit i'm like i don't think they're going to answer like i don't think this is going to be the answer to like cool lingering questions we have about this iteration of hirul and zelda which i find really disappointing uh so far as especially because, you know, again, the only other game that I have a connection with in this style of genre or whatever is Persona 5 Strikers, where that game also does a big focus on a couple of new characters that, like, join the Phantom Thieves,

but that game is such a smart sequel as well to Persona 5 because it acts as a follow-up to all of the main characters arcs throughout, like, the Persona 5, and has them really kind of, like, grapple with what they went through, in the original game. And that's like, in terms of that, like, that was such a strong, like, way to, like, keep people motivated, even if it is partially a genre that they're not really used to or aren't really as into.

Whereas I think this, like, the story side of the Zelda stuff is, is really, like, let me down and failed in that regards. And it's just, like, not super interesting, which I find to be a lot down. So then jumping to the gameplay side that you seem surprisingly high on. Yeah. Do you think that they did a good job of mirroring? the Zelda Breath of Wilders, the Kingdom kind of gameplay elements and style

with the Muso? Yeah, and this was something that I was honestly not too surprised by, especially with how deep they got into the persona 5, what's it, the where your... The social links? No, like your demons

and what do you call them? Your personas. Yeah. I'm tired. I'm tired. And so, like, integrating that entire system and like how, how do you? deep they got into that. Like I wasn't

going into this being like, oh, there's probably going to be barely any Zelda mechanics in here. Like what I've seen so far, I'm like, yeah, this makes sense for this pedigree of like this studio and what they've done before, right? You know, like you do have like your perfect dodge where, you know, if you dodge an enemy at the perfect time, it slows

down and then you can wail on it. Stuff like that. And I think for what this universe is, and especially like the, um, this part of the story that this game is telling, which is the, you know, the imprisonment war and all this stuff where we saw in

flashbacks of like how big Gannon's army was at the time and it's like this kind of style of combat makes sense for just like the waves of enemies that you're going through and just like how zany and weird it gets as well but yeah I think it's really impressive like I've also just started getting deeper into

something I was really surprised by was like the item stuff especially like Zonai devices like how they're integrating that into combat where, you know, uh, you can put them into slots replacing your special moves for your characters. And then, you know, you can bring out like the,

the, the flamethrower thing to, uh, take down an enemy that might be made of ice or something like that. Or, uh, you can bring out a fan that will redirect arrows like being shot at you. And then it'll like blow them all back to the enemies and stuff like that. And, uh,

that part of the, uh, game play was something I wasn't really expecting. I was expecting more of like what we know from links move set from both Breath of Wild and Tears of the Kingdom. But yeah, the item stuff is it seems to be getting deep in the Duffy. And shout out to the one quality of life update that they gave, you know, that holding down right a D pad to bring up a menu is there, but you don't have to hold it down anymore. You just press it. And then it's just a menu that pops up.

It's like, oh, this would have been nice and tears of the king. Oh, man. In terms of looks and sounds and performance, what are your thoughts? Um, music is great. Uh, it hasn't like really stood out to me too much in terms of like tears of the kingdoms, like a score and all that.

Um, I would say performance, again, that was like a big talking point for age of calamity was people being like, hey, this game's rad, but everyone's like booty. Uh,

this runs really well. Uh, and that's, you know, with the power of the, the switch to, uh, this type of game can finally run on a Nintendo piece of hardware,

which, you know, kind of bare minimum, I would say. But yeah, it runs really smooth. I've only noticed a couple of frame drops in terms of, like, having a lot of enemies on screen and that specific Rauru move I was mentioning earlier. There's a lot going on on screen. But it's not like, you know, like the final boss of Donkey Kong Bonanza, where you could really tell, like, oh, man, this thing's chugging. Like, it's a couple of frames here or there.

And besides that, it's, like, buttery smooth. my biggest criticism in terms of like performance and you know uh quality stuff like that is and this is i think looking back at criticism of like all of the breath of wild tears of the kingdom i would really love if they had done cutscenes actually in engine and not pre-rendered stuff because like especially now with the switch to uh improvements in like uh with the fidelity of this game and then also tiers of the kingdom it's really weird to go then to what is obviously like a an ADP low bitrate like video file for a cutscene

and it's just like so weird to then go back into engine for combat and you're just like man this would look so much better if they just done this in engine. That's like my only biggest like kind of criticism with that. Bless I know we've talked about this a couple times in the shows

but you walked by seeing Bless or seeing Barrett play it out there. What were your thoughts about it? I mean I legitimately was just like wow this game looks gorgeous. Yeah. You know that was the first thing that jumped out of me and It was during an opening cutscene where I think it was just you as Zelda walking with like MPCs in like a foresty area. And looking at it, it was the thing where I was like, I don't remember even tears looking this good. And that might be the power of the switch too.

And I think it's also like tears looks that good, but also now on switch two. Yeah. But it's also I think something subtle just because it's the the Muso thing. Like you were much closer, I feel like, to your character and like the camera perspective is different than Tears of the Kingdom and Breastow. of the wild. Whereas like when you go to like a Zonai shrine, it actually took me a moment to realize like, oh yeah,

these things are actually kind of big compared to like the size of a person. Yeah. Where you don't really feel that in like the more like kind of pulled back tiers of the kingdom perspective. So I think that also gives it a little bit more of like, you actually get to take in like, oh yeah, this world is actually really beautiful now that like on the switch two,

but also in almost like a more like human eye level. perspective, you know. That makes more sense. And yeah, it's one of those things where watching that, watching you play that opening segment, I was fooled a little bit because I was like, oh, do I want to play this? And I had to stop myself and be like, no,

I always have this when it comes to Hyra Warriors games where I see the game and I see the Zelda that I know and love. And then I like watch the game play or I play a Muso game and I'm like, oh, yeah, I know, this is a different thing. And so saying the scores kind of brought me back down to earth of being like, okay, no, this is a Muso thing. I don't know if it's going to be my jam, but watching you play that opening part.

has be kind of excited to check out the first hour of it to see like, all right, is this actually going to hit for me this time around? For you being eight hours, like, are you, do you plan to continue? Are you going to beat this game? We were kind of talking about this yesterday in terms of like it actually being kind of nice that unbeatable was delayed or it's like there are so many games right now. Like I have not beaten Pokemon Zah. I am in love with Absalom and I have not beaten that yet.

We've got dispatch, which is a weekly thing and that will be next week. But that and then like Lumenessa Rye. comes out next week. We got Spongebop Squarepants like two weeks, I think, from now. And so it's one of those hearing 18 hours is really nice because I did go to, it's early on, but how long to beat for this game yesterday?

Because I assumed like, oh, there must be a couple people who reviewed it who like put their hour count on it. And people were saying like 35 hours of like, oh, I don't know if I want to do 35 hours of this game. Hearing Logan say 18, knowing that I'm almost at the halfway point, I'm like, okay, maybe I could rock with this, you know, for another nine, ten hours, something like that. We'll see because Tim was trying to convince me to finish Pokemon Zal yesterday. We'll see where I land on that.

I think it really depends on like what my mood is this weekend. But I'm not, right now I'm not opposed to it, which again, I find very surprising because my guess for you playing the first hour in the stream in a couple of hours, you're going to be like, yeah, I'm good. And that's how I felt in like the first hour and a half to two hours where I was like, man, I really am not finding anything, like, really pulling me. And, you know, I knew I wasn't going to beat it, but I still wanted to give as much time as possible. It's just been a busy week and a half to talk about this. And it is surprising that I'm actually into it.

Nice. With the blend of a lot of the Zelda kind of gameplay elements into the style, is there any weapon degradation, which is like such a core thing to breath of the wild. No, no weapon degradation. There's actually weapon upgrading to him. Whoa. Yeah, like one of the rewards you get is like steal and then you can go to like a camp and then upgrade people specific weapons.

You can also like mix and match certain weapons depending on your characters. Like Zelda I think only uses like one-handed swords. There's a mysterious character that you play as that uses, I think it's like a two-handed sword. And then you got like Rod Roo who uses a spear and all that stuff. So as long as you have your weapon types, you can switch weapons and upgrade them. So if you're into this world and you hate weapon degradation, you don't have to worry about that, which is nice. Something else interesting that I'm not used to, and I'm sure this is probably like a, yeah, duh-barrett for people who've played these games before. I think the in-between missions is very interesting of like you have like your Hyrule map.

And right now I'm at a section where like, oh, it's been taken over by the bad guys and not. you're like slowly unlocking the map and a lot of like in between is like oh someone needs help over here do you have um this list of materials okay give that to them now you've unlocked like this part of the map or uh now you've unlocked like a deeper move set for one of your characters or something like which i guess i'm not used to because again strikers like really leaned more into the the persona loop than i would say the mousseau loop um so that stuff is actually honestly the deeper i get into it also a bit more fun of like uh looking at like okay like who can i help out right now and like what little uh things can i unlock to help my missions right um it took me a little too long to figure out how to upgrade

weapons which i i think some of the tutorial onboarding stuff gets fall into the wayside not that that's like you know they're they're hiding something and it's now the game's like so hard or it was much harder than it was before but there's like little things like that where i'm like i wish you all would have actually pointed me to this because you have the little uh the construct, the guys with the little arms who like help you out on that first island. You know, you've got a little like

logo of him pointing you to like all of these things, but when it comes to stuff like that, he doesn't, it's like, oh, come on, man. So weird little things like that. And then also just, lore, I got to a thing yesterday where I'm like, what are we doing? What's happening? What, what, what, what,

I thought this was the origin of all the sky islands. But now you're telling me that there's sky islands up there already all right okay all right that's weird any final thoughts for now on age of imprisonment um I think it's a

solid entry I'm having a fun time with the action uh I think eight hours in only halfway through I Nintendo seems really disinterested in um

leaning into their audiences uh interest when it comes to their questions of Zelda lore and the world, disregard even the timeline of just like what this world, what this particular Zelda world is introducing in terms of its story and lore and all this stuff. And the more they do things in this world, the less interested I become in it, which bums me out.

So that's a, it's a weird, it's a weird game to be playing because it's like, oh yeah, I'm into the gameplay. I'm into the mechanics and I'm into even gaining more characters which have different mood sets which is very confusing to me but you know I'm wrapping my brain around it and then also being like man

I really wish this was honestly not a story game like I wish this was just pure you know mechanics or just like lean into it being an elseworld's thing because I've seen people joke on the internet it's canonical it's canonical them leaning actually into like this is a

this is actually everything that happened on Zelda's side of Tears of the Kingdom because I know that that was a big sticking point for people for age of calamity where at the end of that game it's like none of it actually happened or something like that so it's a weird it's a weird some sweet taste but also weird bitter

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The Kingdom, Breath of Wild it looks and all that. yesterday I got recommended a video every year or so I'll get recommended some video of like allegedly people playing these Zelda games on hardware that is not a Nintendo Switch

Oh no Switch too And these people allegedly Their names rhymed with Bandi Nortez Nobody would ever do that And like yesterday I saw this one

From a couple months ago Just seeing the advancements people have made With like a G-Force like 50-90 Oh my god And it has Ray Tracy It has all this stuff like Gross Disgusting

I hate this Somebody should do something Well like good Lord Kevin You can just skip through just a little bit Just to show some of the different areas here Somebody link me Where can I find this so I can make sure To tell people how to avoid it

But it's like Dang dude Like the art style of this game is just so good And you just put more power behind it It's like oh my God I don't know how long we kill us before it starts It's becoming a problem for us I know jumping up for just a bit more

Oh Like Oh You can see there's a lot of popping right Like a lot of the flowers are like coming in when you get close to it But I mean that happens just on the switch as well Yeah yeah yeah so You can clearly see like a box around you of where things like HD populate

Which I always find very funny It's Zelda My God But okay that's enough of this but just wanted to show people It's criminal It is absolutely criminal. I condone and condemn any illegal actions done to corporations. So I want to talk about we've now had two spinoffs, two games, two switch two editions in the world and characters of Breath of the Wild, of this iteration of Hyrule.

In the history of Zelda, we've seen, I don't know, 10 different kind of links and Zelda's and worlds, right? do we want the I don't even necessarily want to say the next Zelda game like don't think about it that way but just do we want a sequel to Breath of the Wild? Do we want a Zelda game that is continuing to be in this world? Maybe not this Hyrule

maybe they go to Terminum maybe they go somewhere else right? Do we want that or no and the other question spin-offs right we have these Hyrule Warriors games that are kind of either gameplay wise or story-wise doing something with this world

Is there a different genre we might want to see or a different type of spinoff or whatever that is? Or should we be done? Bless? As far as the next Zelda game being in this world, I don't want it to be in this one. One of the things that I love about Zelda is it being this reincarnation thing, the same story told over different generations and different art styles and different interpretations. And I think that's what puts the legend into legend of Zelda, right?

is the idea of it being told in these different ways. Like, I know, I don't think they ever explicitly do this in the games, but it gives me the vibe of this is a story that somebody is telling somebody in, right? And this is them recapping, like, what's going on in their adventure. And I think that is what makes these games feel unique and fresh and makes moments and tears of the kingdom really shine out as, oh, wow, this is an adventure that I'm going on. And this is kind of to Barrett's point about how they treat story and lore in Zelda,

where they don't lean in in ways that feel like they're delivering for fans. And I don't necessarily love that if you're going to keep following up on these same worlds. I think it's fine for what they do in the individual games because it's like, all right, get in and get out. Tell the story of this world. If you're just to just do one game, just do one game. And like, don't explain anything more. Don't overdo it.

If that's what you want to do, I see that. But then if you're going to commit over and over again to one particular iteration. Because then you have to answer questions. Yeah. Like, then you had to start following up on things that you set up. And I think they did a great job from breath of the while to tears of the kingdom of doing that. I just don't trust them to continue doing that in the same world in a ways that build into the lore in a greater way. I think they do a better job of going from ground up and going, hey, here's a new scenario that links in and what's going on with Zelda and what's going on again.

And it's calamity now. Oh, now it's gaining door. Like, I like, I love how they do that shit. So I'd say no. Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm kind of done with this iteration of Zelda. I realistically don't think they'll move on, though. Really? Yeah, I just, I have a feeling with the movie coming out

and them wanting to do kind of like brand synergy with their IP across multiple mediums. You know, them really like honing in on like what Mario is today, what Donkey Kong is today. I could see them sticking with this, which I don't necessarily know if I want. Or no, I know that I don't want. in terms of just

not just story and lore but also just like gameplay like I'm looking for them to do something completely different you know and that's someone who really adored tears of the kingdom and how it followed up on Breath of Wild and this is coming from someone who likes Tears of the Kingdom more

than Breath of the Wild but after that I do think of like we don't need to do the you know the deep kind of physics space system for every game like let's do something else, let's do something different. Let's keep it fresh for the series.

I think that sticks. Like I think that's, even if they switch to a different style of Zelda and redo everything, I still think we get the physics systems. I think the gameplay and the puzzles and all that stuff stays. Even if like this Zelda world we have, we start to shift away from it.

What about you, Tim? I'm with Bless their gameplay-wise where I think the physics stuff should stay. But I also think I'm ready to move on from this. iteration in worlds. I wouldn't be mad if the next one is here, but I would be let down if it was in Hyrol again. I do think that there's no way that they could add another element on top of this, even if it was very updated, very different. I feel like it would be too similar having the two games back-to-back that I loved so much. But adding the depths, adding the sky islands, like,

they already did that. And I feel like if they were to add like a dark world or something that that would be like the least interesting path to go down for me um i would like it to just be like blessed to say in a different legend right um i would be very sad to lose the blue tunic i like link in the blue tunic that's very important to me um he's green okay i know but i like that he was blue he's only blue just because you know they all wore blue because they all represented zelda who represents wisdom but my boy link is green for in that's why i jump back because i do think the movie feeds into this conversation of what they're doing with it because I don't think they go blue tunic for the movie. Oh, really?

Yeah, I don't think they do it because I think that's the problem. That's the problem with tears of the kingdom and breathful wild like continuing on with that is that up until now Zelda part of the franchise has been redefining and doing it over over again. But there is an iconic look for Link and that is the green tunic. And I think you've got to get back to it because I think the movie has to be the green tunic. I don't think you can do the blue tunic. if they do, that means the next game has to be the blue tunic. And that tells me also the next game in this world. And the only

and I just had a funny thought in terms of like would I want another game, not a mainline game, like another game in this world. The only way I'll accept that is that if we get a what is that, what is that RPG, or not RPG, but like kind of management game that came out last year. Frost Punk 2? Satisfactory? Frost Punk 2, like,

game where you're building Hyrule back together. Because the whole thing with Breath of the Wild, right, was, you know, everything's kind of post-apocalyptic. Towns are separated. And then tears of the kingdom, you slowly see the kingdom coming back together. I would love a Hyrule management game in this world, which I think would be hilarious. Let me tell you about a game called Dark Cloud. Any excuse to bring it up. You know, literally, that is what it is.

Literally, that's what you're describing. Dark Cloud, you literally go into dungeons and find the pieces of your village and you're putting your village back together. I'm not saying fully take out 3D action altogether. It is full on lean into it being a city sim. Like for a spin-off? Oh, okay. Yeah, for a spin-off.

But for me, the most important thing is the visual identity. I think they've nailed the art style. Like, I think that this kind of studio Ghibli-looking world is so at home for Zelda. Like, when you look at the last, I mean, when you look at the franchise, right the 3d8 ones at least you had the ocarina look which was an attempt at realistic obviously it was n64 i think that that was uh taken to the extremes with twilight princess right like that

the realistic looking uh high role and link and zelda gandendorf and all of that and then wind waker obviously a complete 180 of that right where it is full on cartoon skyward sword was kind of trying to meet in the middle, and I think that that was like the least successful visual style that they've had in one of the 3D games, because I don't look at that game as having its own unique identity. I think of it as being in the middle of

Winwaker and Twilight Princess, right? And I think that they nailed, they took that meeting in the middle so far into an extreme, creating Breath of the Wild. See, I was gonna I was gonna ask if you felt that way before Breath of the Wild came out, because I feel like fresh off of Skyward Sword, the only thing I really love

about that game is how it looks. I remember from the first trailer of that game I was like oh man this like feels so generic it felt like they didn't know what they were trying to do with it again it felt like they weren't committing to the Twilight Princess fans or the Winwaker fans it was just kind of more and that's my opinion

but people could disagree and that's like literally it's a subjective thing but I do think that the Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom style is so beautiful and good and allows them to be creative on the gameplay side as opposed to needing to worry about the game

being like realistic and all and realistic might not even be the right word to use at this point but I still wanted to look different than Beth in Wilde I think that's the I think we need to move on from this style entirely right the the reason why Ocarina and

Maja stick out to us so much is because they've only used it twice and for almost every iteration like that art style is used once outside of like some of the two D games right like even you know, what is it, a link between worlds has a very specific look to it. And I think when part of the us looking back on our past favorite Zelda games and what made that moment in time so special is part of like that look and that feeds into that nostalgia factor.

And I think if we just keep with this, this style and look in, in this engine, right, we're going to get into like the Mario side of what you hated for the longest time of every fucking 2D Mario game looking the same. Yeah. And I'm super, super, super super with you. But I'm talking about

the difference between New Super Mario Brothers, you and Mario Wonder. Wonder. Like, that's the type of, like, they look very similar,

but it is different. Minish Cap to link to the past, right? Where it's like very similar, but clearly different, like different looks and style, but the energy, I mean,

even thinking about like bringing up Studio Ghibli, like those movies all, quote, unquote, look the same, but no, they don't, you know? And maybe,

no, I like that there. It's like that type, the level of difference between Totoro and the wind rises or whatever. Like, give me that. I sent this link in assets. I know everybody's seen, you know,

so many of us have seen this before, right? But this is the Wii U tech demo for what they had in mind for Zelda, or at least how hezalda could look on Wii U. God damn. I wonder who's behind the camera of this. Oh shit. I didn't even think about that.

Holy cow. God, you're old. I know. That's crazy. I still want this. I still want this for a Zelda art style. Like I hear you guys as far as where we're at right now with Zelda. And I think we all agree that like we kind of want some sort of shift.

But I think a shift back toward the, I don't know if I even call it realistic, but I guess more traumatic slash less cell shaded Zelda, I think could be the move to kind of bring us back to what was in people's minds. like the dream the dream yeah but also just like the look and feel of yeah because for i guess what i'm looking at this as is a return to ocarina like ocarina to your points right is realistic for the n64 but that was 64 bit right that was such a long time ago in a different era for what you could do with technology and looks and all that stuff i think this art style though like we've not gotten it quite like what we have in this tech don't and i think technology wise,

we're at the place where this could be a reality. Yeah. And I think this would encapsulate the core of what Zelda is, how you depict Zelda in a movie. Like, if you want to want a return to form for Zelda, so that way we can have the swing back so that 10 years later we can swing back to cell shaded if we wanted to, I think this

would be the move. For me, I want this for an Ocarina of Time remake. I think that this style, while yes, the dream for the longest time, I think that Breath of the Wild and Tears the kingdom have reinvented the series for the better. And I hope that we commit to that.

And I hope like, hey, I'm not going to complain if the next Zelda looks like this. What I will say is that if the next Zelda ends up being the Ocary and a time remake, then I'm totally with you of like, oh yeah, let's step back for that and then go back to like a more cartoonier or sell shay or whatever you want to call it stylized look for the next. Yeah, because that look, it's like that evoked such a specific time in place, I would say, for the series. And like, yeah, we can utilize that for a. a remake of Ocarina if that actually exists,

but I wouldn't want that to be like almost like the statement of the future of the series, you know, because it feels like going backwards in a way. Yeah, I just think it's, I mean, it's one of those things. It was Zelda so many things, right? But I do think that that style is somewhat core to an era of Zelda, right?

But I think the way to make this work would be to make it cyclical. I think it would be to, hey, let's return to what that is. So that way we can return to what this is. Unless you have something completely new, I just don't know what that completely new. looks like. And that's what I would want. Like, I want the, you know, I miss the

days of the swings of, you know, going from Majoras to Windwaker and then to Twilight Princess. Like, I love, you know, like, it felt very reactionary towards a reactionary audience in terms of, like, their feelings about certain art styles, but all of them

have such a specific essence in terms of their visual identity. And I, I just don't want it to be, complacent in terms of what Zelda means and feels like in the future. Yeah. Let's talk about the movie. There's two links here that I'd like for you to bring up.

One is Lincoln Zelda, the actors. We know who they are. They're these people. And on top of that, we know that they started shooting. Just don't know. They're these kids. them. These people.

And we also know that they started shooting this movie yesterday. And they will be shooting until April, 26 in New Zealand. Kevin, if you could bring up the next link. Yes, it's just a Google image search of New Zealand. What? It's spelled out of it. And like, oh, I see. Look at this.

Yeah. A lot of different. It's Zelda, right? You know, obviously a lot of the big fantasy movies and TV shows shoot. shoot over in New Zealand for good reason. One of the rings was news. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And yeah, a lot of Game of Thrones, like that type of stuff. Because it just makes sense.

So yeah, once again, you look at the world of Zelda, Hyrule, you look at specifically the breath of the wild tears, the kingdom kind of vibes, right? Of like the opening shots and then the box are on the mountain looking out at the vista. It's New Zealand. So far

it's nailing it. Yeah, I think about it more. I'm like, I don't know if I want it. Yeah. I guess in this form, I swing back and forth and back and forth and back and forth on it. I think it's the thing where I'm totally down with a new fantasy movie and a new fantasy universe and the fact that it's based off of Zelda.

Cool. You're speaking to my childhood. But then I think about realistically, what's it going to be? It's Nintendo. It's Zelda. It's probably going to be rated. But PG. Not that like that means anything bad towards it.

You don't know? Oh, I guess PG. Probably PG. Yeah. But I think it'll push. the PG. Sure. I don't,

I, and I also wouldn't be necessarily surprised if it hit PG 13, but. You think they're gonna use the one fuck? I don't think

they're gonna use a fuck. You know what I mean? But I do think there's gonna be some big titty fair. Well, excuse me, fucking princess. But I don't even want to say like PG is the problem necessarily.

It's more so like, what is this going to look like in the full scope? And the biggest thing. And I understand people being hesitant about this, like a live actions Zelda movie. So many things about that are like, really, the director, West Ball, he knows

Ball. They're not pirates. The Planet of the Apes, the most recent one, that movie freaking rocked. And it had such a great visual style. And watching that movie, knowing he's directing Zelda, I was like, dang, I had so much faith in this movie. Wow. And great storytelling. Like, I think great kind of small, let's just tell a story that matters with characters that matter. and I feel like with Zelda, that's what they need. It's going to be tough, though, to adapt what we know of Zelda into a two-hour movie. I mean, you're talking about storytelling and a good storyteller, you know, the director's only part of that.

One of the writers did the story of Star Wars Episode 9, The Rise of Skywalker. You can't hold that against that. There was 10 writers on that thing. Yeah, that's Disney. Because I'm not so messed up, but. And then the other writers, probably definitely is someone who Westball is worked with before, they've really only done the maze runner movies. Yeah.

Which, again, like, those were young adults, but great at world building and, um... I feel like this is going to be young adult, right? Like, yeah, that's all going to feed into that. Yeah, but so here's the question. We lightly touched on this earlier, but is it adapting the breath of the wild story to any extent? Or what do you think is most likely? It's doing its own thing that's kind of just cherry picking element.

mince of all the other Zelda's in doing its thing or adapting either Akarina or breath of the wild because I don't think it's going to be any other one. That's so tough, dude. I think they go the Mario route making an East Kai. He's from our world. I mean, I don't want that.

I'm kidding. I'm kidding. They like, they could do it. I know they could. With the powers that they have available in the Zelda universe, like they could and like even with the way Akrona, no, you know what, no. We're not going to die. We're not going down that route. We're not doing that.

My gut tells me it's an original story where they cherry pick things from a bunch of different games, namely probably both O'Koreen and Breath of the Wild. But I think if you're going to adapt one of the games directly, my heart says Ocarina. Like my heart says that that is a Zelda story. That is like the most notable iconic Zelda story that probably would work best in a movie. when you think about the twist and turns of it. Like, okay, cool, you start in a village. Are they else?

I forget, it's been a watson. I played Ocarena. You start in a village of elves. You go explore. You fucking run into Gannon. Dorf, shit goes wrong. It goes forward. I'm really condensing this.

But like, I think with that, the twist of chic, you can make that into a really good movie. I think the problem with Ocarina in terms of its story beats, I think would be tough to like really adapt into a movie or even like a two-parter movie. I think you'd need something a bit more straightforward for the medium. So like my brain leans towards Breath of the Wild. I think that's a bit more straightforward in terms of like, all right, this kid wakes up, he doesn't remember who he is, the world's messed up, he's got to save this princess, right?

My heart wants Link to the Past because I think Link to the Past is a little bit more straightforward in terms of, like a very similar thing with Ocarina. know like everybody says like ocarina is just kind of 3D link to the past but in terms of its story beats i think there's a bit more of like a linear through line that i think makes sense and doesn't get overindulgent with like a bunch of different characters going to a bunch of different reasons and having that be the focus uh especially if they do want to make this like a two or three parter like the cliffhanger if they did link to the past would go fucking hard where it ends with Link thinking he is about to save Zelda and uh what a Ganim I've I know how to say it's like a Ghanem whatever I always said a Ganym but uh transports Zelda to the

dark world and then uh link kills aganem againam whatever agendos and then he that takes him also to the dark world and I think that would be like such a banger cliffhanger for yeah of like a Zelda adaptation. And I like where your heads out with that because I think that it would be so cool to see the champions and all that stuff because I loved that about Breath of the Wilds. Like the kind of power ranger feel of like the

what are they called? The goons? No, the big, the four things you have to. Oh, the what the fuck? The Divine beast? Divine beast. Thank you. I was going to say forbidden towers. I was like that's not it. All that stuff. So cool, right? Like I

and I feel like that would make sense. But to Barrett's point, the runtime, thinking about the medium, like, I don't see that all working. So, and Ocreen of Time, I am with you, blessed that, like, I do think that that is, like, quote, quote, quote, the right answer to, like, speak to people. Yeah. But I don't see them doing the time jump stuff. Like, I think that this kid is going to be linked. Like, I don't, like, there's going to be some twist of, like, hey, actually, half the movie is this other dude, you know. But that also, it would be cool if they did.

But I don't see that happening. But I do think that the, knowing West Ball and knowing. like his kind of ideologies with movies I do think that they're going to adapt the link to the past type elements of collecting items and going like doing a dungeon to get a thing that that allows you to do

something else that I think is going to be shown in movie form which I'm very interested in like I think it's going to be more of like literal game adaptation than we tend to see sometimes and to bring in the link to the past comic that I adored as a child that I forget where I got but

Nintendo power, probably. Probably. It was like a hand-me-down from a babysitter or something, and I still have it to this day. You know, they did a lot to kind of bring more characters to your Shahshri-Las and there's like another little kid in there. Like I think there's like a strong cast of supporting characters that don't dominate too much of making Link the special boy.

You know? So I think like there is something there as well. I got to reread that. comic. It's so good. Barnell in the chat asks, what do we think the title of the movie will be? That's actually an excellent question. It's funny because as we were talking about this, part of my brain is like, well, could you just adapt to the first The Legend of Zelda game? Because you're probably just going to call the movie The Legend of Zelda. And I say adapt loosely because that is really just the premise of any Legend of Zelda. Hey, you're a dude. You get a sword. Go explore dungeons and save a princess. Yeah. I really, I mean, that's, I think, the most obvious thing. I hope that's not the case. I think that the movie having a subtitle

will make it a lot stronger and goes back to this being a legend, this being a story, this being different from the other ones we've had. I think it'd be really cool if it had a subtitle that wasn't any of the titles that we've had so far. But it's probably called Legend of Zelda. Yeah, I mean, I'm with you.

I think just for... Again, knowing Nintendo, like what their course has been so far in like the movie and like, adaptation in other medium space. Like I think they're just, keep it simple, stupid, you know? And especially with like the Mario movie, like they, they didn't even do a subtitle for the second one.

Like they're, they just, you know, smartly implemented like Super Mario Galaxy. And that's just like, I don't know, I don't think they play around. There's only two possible titles here, I think. Legend of Zelda being the most like, I think you kind of have to call it the Legend of Zelda. If not, then maybe you call it the Legend Zelda, Zalda, Ocarine at a time. I think if you find a new subtitle, it starts to feel like a spin-off. It starts to feel like a, almost like a directed video.

Like, you know, like whenever they call it. Cronk's new groove. Yeah, like, what was the doc-com movie called? The Kingdom of the Crystal Skoll or whatever. Technically, not even a movie. It was, um, Legend of the Crystal Coconut. You're mixing up Indiana Jones there, buddy. Technically not even a movie.

Those were just like three episodes of the show just put together. Yeah, but it was advertised to me like a movie. Yeah, well, I mean, they sold it on VHS like it was a movie as well. I think, again, they want this to be a franchise. This will probably be a trilogy. I think you start with The Legend of Zelda and then the other two are subtitles. Yeah. Just for Devil's Advocate here, because I think that you're right there.

I think they'd put a subtitle. I think links in it. Legend of Zelda links something or other, right? Because we've had so many of those, and I think that starts to not, that solves the spinoff problem a bit. You know, like, because we've had, you know, Link's Awakening, link to the past like we we can get something there because i i do think starting with just the legend of zelda and if you make this a trilogy right you know in a trilogy second chapter is always the dark chapter always like the

shit's going down subtitle is something to do with ganon and then the third one you you bring the boy link's name into it as like the right bringing back hope yeah yeah yeah i would i have such the boring answer right but for me if you're doing a trilogy you're doing a multi-part series. It really is the Legend of Zelda. No, like, it's The Legend of Zelda, The Legend of Zelda Link to the Past, The Legend of Zelda, The The Legend of the Iron Age time. And then if there's a fourth movie, the Legend of Zelda

Breath of the Wild. Like, I think you just title at the most popular games. I know it's boring. Yeah. Yeah, I think, like, doing a new title, I think would be tough and weird. I think it's more likely, though, than using one of the... I don't think we're going to get a Legend of Zelda, Aquina of Time, unless it's adapting O'Reena of Time, and I don't think it's going to.

You don't, okay, yeah. See, my brain you are. Yeah, my brain is where you're doing with these movies. We got some super chats. Dexter says, I'd love to explore more time in this high rule as it continuously evolves, builds more lore and has memorable characters, but not in a spinoff game. Banders-N says, my worry is more fidelity means more budget. I'd rather something more stylized that doesn't cause the game to take forever and cost a Spider-Man to make. And then RSC Raptor face says, never forget the IG in April Fool, Zelda live action trailer, still feel the anger about how stupid I was.

I just wanted it so badly. Directed by Fran Marabella, 2007 or eight? Damn. Yeah. Feels like yesterday. In that video that we pulled up of the Wii U's all the thing that you're playing, what were you playing? What were you doing?

I was just the camera. I did play it, though. It was just a camera. Like, it's literally just playing. You could like move the camera. No way. It was showing off the Wii you game back. It was just a video that you're just kind of like interacting with essentially.

Gotcha. But yeah, I can't just pause this. I do want to end the show. watching the Legend of Zelda April Fool's video from IGN. I can't believe it's finally real. Haven't seen it. Any closing thoughts on this? I mean, no matter what the future of Zelda is, I'm excited for it. Like, they could make another Breath of the Wild inclusion and I'd kind of be like,

oh, another one. But I'd also be like, well, they're making a third one of my favorite games of all time. Like, sure. Let's do this. You know, I'm excited for wherever we go. Even if it is a return to form, I don't expect them to do this. But if they abandoned all of like the physics stuff and went, we're making another their traditional 3D traditional

Ocarina, Twilight Princess, Winwicker style, you're doing dungeons and like we have like, you know, very catered, curated solutions and all that stuff. It's been a long time since one of those. I'd be down for one of those. Like I want to see them, I think my biggest wish is to see them explore the now multiple branches of Zelda they created.

The thing is, they are never going to do that again. Yeah. The Zelda team is never going to do that. The Zelda team that made Breath of Wild and Sears the Kingdom are never going to do that again. But Grezo will. Yeah. That's what I want. Will. That's what I want.

I mean, they already did make their own original game with Echoes of Wisdom, right? I do think, and they were the ones that did the remakes, I'll call them, Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask on the 3DS. Yeah, those are really. And then Link's Awakening, obviously, as well. But I do see them getting to a point that they are making original 3D Zelda game. And I do think it will be, it's either going to be a, they're making the remake of Ocarina at Time, which I,

think is probably the most likely situation right now, or they are making a dungeon traditional 3D Zelda game that's brand new. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I want. Yeah. I don't know what I want for the future of Zelda. This is a franchise that I just, I take what I get when it comes to me. And if I'm, if I fuck with it, I fuck with it.

And if I don't, I don't. And that's okay. And I think the, the further I've distanced or gotten away. from Zelda in review and all that stuff, the more I'm like, man, I spent so much time invested in like the lore and all of it connected and Nintendo just doesn't care anymore. Anymore. It'll care anymore. They definitely cared for a game, a game at least enough where they made it a plot point.

And so, I don't know, it's fun stuff. I honestly thinking more about like the movie being a like possibly linked to the past. has me more excited for a Zelda movie, but I'm still very apprehensive. Again, it should have been animated. It should have been Gendi Tardukovsky. Yes. Yeah.

Directing that shit. And in terms of games, I hope we get something fresh. I think two games in the same style engine, gameplay style world, is like the most I want from the series with the most recent games. and then Ocaryana Time and Majoris Mass and then after that I really want them to mix it up and I hope they take a bit of a break although I know it was a lot of time

between Breath of Wild and Tears of the Kingdom but yeah I want to miss Zelda and right now I don't Hmm All right everybody let's close the show out With Fran Mirabella's Zelda live action April Fool's trailer IGN.com Presents

I don't know what that was I've got something special end up today I'm taking the harvest of Castle Town Market, and you're coming with me. Now mind your manners and do what I say. Speak to no one. And for goodness sake, don't touch anything. It's just seared into my mind. Amazing.

I just... I've been waiting for you, Link. You've been kept safe, guarded by a secret race. For this very day. day, the kingdom of Hyrule will fall. Nothing can stop the evil which is crept inside these walls. I love the 2008 Doctor Who.

BBC quality of energy of this. When these doors open again, it will be seven years in the past. Find me again. This is so well made. It's hilarious. For 2000, whatever this was. Eight, man, yeah.

For real, y'all could have been producing BBC shows at the time. That's what it came straight to the CW. So hype, man. The hero of time. Merlin. Is that a show? Yeah, heavy Merlin vibes.

Faith. No joke. This kind of sold me on the live actions. That's awesome. I can kind of see it. It was the monster. It was the creatures. I'm like, fuck, dude.

That would look cool in live action. Some of the chats was that old guy, young, young Nick. Oh my God, that's Oh, y'all are killing me. That is the greatest thing ever. Man, yeah, that is, that video was so ahead of its time. Oh, yeah. It tricked people. It tricked the world.

I know we look at it started. I feel like it really started, truly started the internet trend of like doing shit on April Fool's. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, video game magazines and stuff had a tradition of it, but it died off. And then, yeah, IGN did that. It was crazy stuff. But, oh man, everybody, let us know in the comments below what you think about that and what you think about Fran Marabella's hair and those arms. He's been working on them arms a lot.

We're about to do a great thing. What are we doing? It's a stream. No. We do an interview. Predator Badlands. AV. Pee. A Vee.P.P. Very exciting stuff. But until next time, I love you all. Goodbye.