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Starting point is 00:00:00 Today's stories include ROG Xbox Allies reportedly launching in late October. PlayStation the concert is coming to the U.S. and Red Dead's actors are teasing an announcement. We'll have all this and more because this is Kind of Funny Games Daily. Yo, what's up? Welcome to Kind of Funny Games Daily for Tuesday, June 17th, 2025. I want your host, Blessing, Adioia Jr. joining me is LaCroy Poppy. Tim, Ma, Buggin, Gettys.
Starting point is 00:00:34 Oh, what a pleasure to be here today. we got some fun stuff to talk about some Xbox some PlayStation everything in between everything in between Nintendo is that the thing in between no i don't think there's anything Nintendo's been having so many goddamn things recently so yeah it's like take a seat Nintendo we're going to talk about fortnight instead yeah yeah let's do it's an exciting one that's gonna be very exciting one Tim how are you doing I'm doing great you know the switch two is here I've been playing so much of it um so much of it to the point that a couple days ago I had a headache all day long and I'm sure it was because of the switch oh just sitting you're really
Starting point is 00:01:06 really playing it that much, it's all day. Oh, I've been on it so much. All Mario Kart? I'm not putting around. I mean, we'll do in a whole, what we've been playing episode of Gamescast after this, so I don't want to spell too much. But I've been playing a little Pickman 1.
Starting point is 00:01:18 Oh. A game that, like, I've never fully given a shot. So I'm like, Nintendo's treating this like one of their big five. So I'm like, I got to show it a little more respect. Well, that's what everyone's called. Like the Big Five IPs? Yeah. I mean, think about it.
Starting point is 00:01:30 What's Nintendo's Big Five? I mean, what we would say and what they would say are different things. You think so? Well, what I'm saying, is who's walking in the Nintendo store on the side of the store. We got Link, we got Mario, we got inklings, we have Pickman, and we have
Starting point is 00:01:45 Yeah, but like, that's because the, the Pickman audience will buy merch. You know who won't buy merch? The Metroid audience. You know what I mean? I feel like that's a different conversation. Well, I mean. Well, I guess am I putting Metroid in the Big Five? That's, right? There's, here we are, Wes. Listen, it's a slow newsday, so we can have this conversation.
Starting point is 00:02:02 The conversation for me is, I need to show more respect to Pickman and to Animal Crossing. Well, Animal Crossing for sure. But all that means, why are you hating on Pickman? Pickman's not a fucking, I have a feeling, I have a feeling Pickman's a better game for you than Animal Crossing.
Starting point is 00:02:20 Yes, but you said the Big Five. And I'm saying it based on Nintendo. I ain't saying it. Nintendo's not putting Pikmin. Pickman might be Big Seven. It's not Big Five. Pickman are everywhere, dude. They're hiding.
Starting point is 00:02:33 I'm going to listen to your Big Five. All right? You got Mario. Yeah. You got Pokemon. Yeah, they don't count Pokemon because, you know, it's a little bit iffy. Otherwise, it should be. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:02:42 Pokemon's is, Pokemon only shows up on Nintendo platforms. That has to be big fun. Yeah. Yeah, is there Pokemon merch in the Nintendo store? Oh, yeah. Like half the store. Oh, then I'm for sure counting Pokemon. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:53 I mean, I would too. But they're not, they're not on the side of the store. So, Mario, Pokemon. Mm-hmm. Zelda. Animal Crossing. Come on. Show some love to you, boy.
Starting point is 00:03:06 Donkey Kong. That's five right there. Yeah. And I say Donkey Kong even like not thinking about it. I feel like if I thought about it more, there might be somebody before Donkey Kong. I don't think so. You don't think there's somebody before Donkey Kong?
Starting point is 00:03:17 The problem is we start talking about spin-offs. The problem is we start talking about spin-offs. Because like if we're being real, what's the big five? If we're being real, Mario Kart, Mario Kart, Smash Brothers, Pokemon. And I guess fuck it, we'll give it to a battle for cross. I mean, here's the thing. I mean, somebody in chat says, Splatoon.
Starting point is 00:03:32 Splatoon might be before Donkey Kong. Well, Spatoon's in there. Wait, well, I didn't, yeah, not in mine. But yeah, if I'm, if I'm thinking objectively, objectively, I think the thing with Donkey Kong is that he's grandfathered in. You know what I mean? Like if Nick Scarpino passed away tomorrow, yeah, five years from now, we're still going to be like, all right, like, when do you think of kind of funny? You know, you're making a point that I'm following. I mean, I need somebody to Photoshop Nick's cranky Kong.
Starting point is 00:04:09 I need that in my life. But, yeah, again, like, what's this even fucking matter? Like, what does any of this mean? Because Samis will always be the number one girl in my life. Listen, I appreciate that. But the point is, I am woefully ill-equipped to speak on Animal Crossing and Splatoon. And I want to just give him a shot. Give him more of a shot.
Starting point is 00:04:27 Splatoon, I'm sorry. Pickman. Pickman. And Animal Crossing. Splatoon's on that list, too. Although I played the campaign of Splatoon, too. Yeah. The next Spatoon, this will do you, Raiders?
Starting point is 00:04:37 Yeah. If it's more single-player-focused, I might hang out with it longer than I have the other ones, right? I mean, same, yeah. But Pickman 1, I'd be Pickman 1 back in the day, you know, but I feel like I need to give it a, this son of a bitch, you know what I mean, just look. The Donkey Kong kind of funny. If I say, if I can say so much, so.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Yeah. He'll always be top of. The amount of Fire emblems I'm seeing in the chat, like, I, the problem with this is there's, there's interest, there's sales, there's entry of volumes. And then there's just like the level of like, but let's be real. When we're saying Big Five, like, Fire emblem's not the goddamn big five. But, like, Fire Emblem is above Pickman. Fire Emblemen.
Starting point is 00:05:14 I mean, it. Fire Emblem and Zeno Blade is probably above Pickman. Just because Zeno Blade isn't in the Nintendo store. It's because they're not buying merch like that. The store... I think that's kind of like that's... If that's not what we're talking about, then what are we talking about? Because if we're just talking about the best...
Starting point is 00:05:31 And this is dumbass Mount Rushmore conversation. Like, what do we actually say in here? Because we're saying best Nintendo franchises, yeah, that's a very different conversation. I think even if we're saying profitable, Fire Emblem's more profitable than Pickman, right? I don't know, man. I feel like that's... Here's the thing. There's no way that last...
Starting point is 00:05:48 Miamoto loves those little fuckers. You know what I mean? Because they're his babies. They're one of his big five babies. You know what I mean? Like, they're good to put it on the front of a box. Do we have the ability to put it in the chat? A poll between Pickman versus Fire Emblem.
Starting point is 00:06:02 And I'm saying this, I'm a Fire Enblem fan. I love Fire Enblem. The question is, which one is Nintendo's savior? favorite child than the other? Yes. Okay. Right? Yeah. That's the question.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Yeah. I mean, I think it's easily picked. Which one is like a more top IP for Nintendo between Fire Emblem and Pickman? It's Fire Emblem. A more top IP. Also, chat, he keeps bringing up Zelda. I said Zelda. Zoldo was my number two or three, I think.
Starting point is 00:06:23 They made a Pokemon go for Pikman. That's crazy. It's because it's a different IP than, like, if you could do that for Fire Emble and they made a mobile game for Fireman. It was very, very successful. Yeah. This is a different audience. It's got to treat it in a different way.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Pickman, it's like, you're just looking for things to do. Oh, what do we do with these little guys? I guess we'll try to make a Pokemon go that won't be anywhere near as successful as their top, an actual top five IP. Pickman Bloom. They really did that. They did that. They didn't do that because Pickman was popular. Because they want it to be.
Starting point is 00:06:54 They believe in Pickman. They fuck with Pickman so hard. And that's why I'm like, I should fuck with Pickman. Pickman. I want you know right now, bless, I'm not really fucking with Pygman. I'm so wrestling pilled right now. Because in my brain, I'm like, viral. emblem is like the old reliable fire emblem is the one that star that doesn't even need the championship
Starting point is 00:07:13 but they're all Randy orton Randy orton his fire emblem pickman is the one you're trying to push you're crazy person but I kind of love it. Pickman is the one where it's like give him the championship because we want we want pickman up here's the thing though there's the the Orton doesn't work for fire emblem and even what you're saying doesn't work for fire emblem because I think fire emblem while it's had now not one but two breakout moments in the U.S. with fire emblem awakening fucking waking people up, getting woke to Fire Emblem. And then three houses on the Switch,
Starting point is 00:07:41 really being the like, oh my God, like blow it up. I still think they're non-believers. I still think there are a ton of gamers out there, Nintendo or otherwise, that if they gave a Fire Unmblem a shot, they'd be all in.
Starting point is 00:07:55 Yeah, but I mean, it's a fun conversation because I think it's just the nature of the genre, which I think Fire Enblem is, like, for the kind of game that it is, is broken through because it's, that good, right? Because it's like that iconic for, like,
Starting point is 00:08:10 what it means to the Nintendo catalog. And also because it's Smash Brothers and how much Smash Brothers, I think it's put those characters on the map and really made people recognize, like, oh man, I know, I know,
Starting point is 00:08:18 you know, Martha or whatever, what games are these? Fire Room Three Houses comes out and turns out is a game that a lot of, like, a lot of the core audience is going to fuck with. I think Pickman,
Starting point is 00:08:27 Pickman is like, this is a fun thing where I don't want to insult Picman because Picman also, I have hell of respect for. Just for this, I'm right there with you. I have a hell of respect for Pickman. But I think it's that combination of it's the cozy game that's also like been there since the GameCube.
Starting point is 00:08:44 And so there's nostalgia involved in it. And also it's one of a kind as far as the kind of game that it is. And so I think it's always going to have a place at the table. Yeah. There's no other Pickman's out there. It's a Miyamoto baby, man. Yeah. That makes it, that's a game changer.
Starting point is 00:08:57 Fire Unblem is out here competing with games that are similar to Fire Emblem and is still outshining them. Yeah. Because this is one of them boys. You know what I mean? Fire emblem is just one of them ones. Yeah. Put some respect on it. I'm gonna play Fire Emol when I get home.
Starting point is 00:09:10 I've never played a fire emblem. Oh my God. Does three houses have like one of those boosts? No. I don't think so, but it's still gonna have a boost. You'll be fine. It'll be fine.
Starting point is 00:09:19 It'll be fine. That's exciting. That's your, just, I might need a code. I don't think I own that game. How much is it? $60?
Starting point is 00:09:26 Because everything on Nintendo Switch is probably. It's still gonna be $60. Man, I wish there was a way for you to play Awakening. I feel like you'd really fuck with it. It's a 3DS one. we need to rally for Nintendo to do more deals paying $60 for $5.
Starting point is 00:09:38 We got us some deals. Give us the greatest hits. It's 2025. I'm not going to buy it for $60. I'm sorry, Fire Emble. Maybe I'll come back around. We'll see.
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Starting point is 00:10:15 Before we continue, Kevin does have the poll up here. Two polls. Oh, I see, because there's one on the YouTube and there's one on the Twitch. The audience has spoken Fire Emblem is the better pick. On YouTube. I guess the poll's still going. Oh, I see. 6'3 votes on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:10:32 Because the phrasing on the YouTube one is... It's not the question. Which is better between Pickman and Fireman. I don't think I made that one. I was making one. It's fair. It's fair. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:41 For the other one, I just wrote Chews. Which is which... And it still is Fyreis Album. So it looks like Fire Album is the winner. Yeah, Fire Blum on the YouTube side for the Witches Better is winning at 60% to Pickman's 40%. And then on the Twitch side for just choose, Fire emblem is up 54% to Pickman's 46%, which is a lot closer. Yeah, that was also, I only put it at a two-minute poll. so that has ended.
Starting point is 00:11:03 Okay. Roy's our boy, we like guy, get fucked, Pickman. You know what I mean? Fire Emu for life. Sacchar,
Starting point is 00:11:08 put more Firenblum characters and smash next time. Let's go. We need to start spelling Alamo with a lowercase O and a big old L. Big old L. That's what I'm talking about,
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Starting point is 00:12:01 Now, let's begin with what is and forever will be, the Roper Report. It's time for some news. We have five stories today. Bakers does it. Starting with our number one, ROG Xbox Ally is reportedly launching in late October. Microsoft has yet to commit to a price. This is Francesco DeMeo at WCCF Tech. I got a super chat question for y'all.
Starting point is 00:12:31 How much are you willing to pay? for the Xbox ally. Let me know in the Superchats. The ROG Xbox ally is launching in a few months, but Microsoft reportedly has yet to commit to a price due to the uncertainty of the current economic situation. In a new report shared today, Windows Central corroborated the rumored October launch window for the two handhelds, clarifying they are tentatively slated for late October. According to the outlet's sources, however, the rumored prices of $4.99 for the base model and $799 for the premium model may not be accurate. As Microsoft has yet to commit to a price due to the tariffs imposed by the United States
Starting point is 00:13:09 on products manufactured in countries such as China and Taiwan, where ASUS manufactures its products. Tim, what do you think about that? There's a lot going on here. I will say I don't believe these numbers. The $800 for the premium model, that's the same price currently of the ASUS Ally X. and I feel the same way about this as I did Switch and I was wrong.
Starting point is 00:13:33 I bet $400 on Switch and it ended up being $450. So I'm looking at this now. This is being even more powerful. Part of me is like, oh, the Xbox branding and partnership is going to make them want to try to get on the low end to maybe subsidize here or there. The realistic part of me is like, no, this thing's $900. Yeah. I think it's $900. And is that like factoring in the tariffs in mind?
Starting point is 00:13:55 Not really. Okay. Yeah, that's scary. Yeah. I mean, again, I feel like that's the type of stuff that, like, you can't really at all predict or anything. Sure. I'm just saying more just like industry trends of where we're at with this level of tech. I would not be surprised, especially with them offering two models of it.
Starting point is 00:14:10 I would not be surprised if it was $900. I, eight or nine, honestly. If it ends up being eight, it's not like the biggest shocker in the world. I will be literally shocked if it's anything lower than that, though. And if it's higher, if it crosses that $1,000 mark, oh boy. But I don't think it's going to. Yeah, I mean, at this point for like talking about that $1,000 mark, right? Like, I don't think I'm surprised anymore when things are priced that high.
Starting point is 00:14:37 Like, I think that's just what we're at as far as the world and also just electronics and with the tariffs and all that stuff factored in. It's like I'm, I've been prepped to expect the worst, right? When we're talking about Maricart being $80, we're talking about like, you know, the switch pre-orders being paused while they had to assess the situation. and like I feel like we're at that place of expect the worst for all of this. And so like based on what you're saying, I would probably lean more toward the $1,000 mark. Yeah, I just, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:15:08 Those four digits are hard. Yeah, they really are. But at the same time, they're not for what type of product this is. Like this is going to, I think, sell very well to the market that it's going for even at $1,000. I don't think it's going to hit that. But we need to realize that like take tariffs out of it and take like the entire conversation. Of course you want everything as cheap as possible. These are expensive products.
Starting point is 00:15:28 Like, there's just no getting around it. Like, you were paying for tech. This is the equivalent of, like, buying a PC and, like, yes, you could buy the cheaper PC, but this is the high-end version of the thing. Like, this is them trying to give a high-end model of gaming handheld PC. So we had a whole episode on handheld yesterday on Gamescast that you could check out for more thoughts on the whole situation. But I think that the Xbox Ally X specifically is for an audience that really does want
Starting point is 00:15:56 the best of the best when it comes to Windows handheld gaming performing as high as possible with as nice a screen and like all the dude ads and whatnots but you gotta pay for that like you compare that price even to the highest steam deck which right now is at 650 and I was saying I don't recommend buying that I recommend buying the 550 OLED one because the only advantage you get are an extra terabyte of storage that you could just buy SD card for yeah and an anti-glare screen
Starting point is 00:16:22 that I prefer the cheaper screen anyways so really comparing the steam deck at 550, then you start going up at the high end model to the high end model of this. This thing is demonstrably more powerful than the Steam Deck. So you're getting what you pay for. Yeah. I'm fascinated about what the chat is going to say as far as what they're willing to pay for this because I think a thing that I've realized over the course of talking about the Xbox
Starting point is 00:16:47 handheld and my expectations for just it being super expensive is that for me it's mainly the thing of I just don't think I'm going to get one. I don't like for how many handhelds there are out there currently and for how much the price is going for right like I'm so happy with my steam deck and I'm so happy with my switch too that I look at the Xbox ain't know I'm like man that looks really cool but I don't think I'm ready to spend another $800 and I and that's where I get fascinated as far as the conversation and for how well is this the thing going to do how much is how many people are they selling this to are they going to sell this to because like my assumption is that this is for the hardest of the hardcore it is and for xbox and for asus right like how big is that audience as far as like the people that are willing to spend that much for an xbox handle there is the the lower end one though which is how much do you think that's going to be so right now rumored price 500 it's like i do think five or six hundred which again is still a lot of money but it is a lot more reasonable compared to nine or ten yeah hundred
Starting point is 00:17:55 10 hundred. There was so many child, I was like, bless is not, it's three, it's still three digits because it'll be nine 99. But colloquially, like, we're going to say a thousand dollars, you know what I mean? But, yeah, and in addition to this, like, these are just the first two officially partnered ones. Like, we're about to see so many more of these devices and like whatever user interface Xbox is working on, Microsoft's working on, we're going to see on the Legion and just
Starting point is 00:18:19 the other handheld devices as well. I think that's going to do so much for it. I think it's a tough pill for me to swallow. I know fucking Greg. just standing in the background. Greg, in the shadows, halfway out the door, just standing there until we look at him.
Starting point is 00:18:29 He needs it. He needs the eye contact and attention. I hate him. But for me, fuck, I just lost my train of thought too. No, it's all good. I think, oh yes, it's a hard pill to swallow
Starting point is 00:18:40 this early on with it. And I think this early on in the conversation as far as the Xbox ecosystem, Xbox PC, that transition of your library and all that stuff, I think I'm still in the early place of it
Starting point is 00:18:51 where even when we're talking about a $600 thing, and this is me speaking at somebody who at this point if I'm ordering the places that I mostly play it's Steam PlayStation Nintendo maybe tied right now because it's what you came out you know what I mean but like Steam has become my
Starting point is 00:19:07 place that I'm playing mainly for the function of all right cool I have my my 4080 on my PC desktop where I'm getting that good experience as far as like getting that fidelity and then I have my Steam deck and those talk seamlessly to each other as far as cloud save and all that stuff and like my library is there and I have that ecosystem with me. I know that I am probably a far cry as far as like what they're aiming for here.
Starting point is 00:19:30 But even still, it's tough to think about that 600, maybe 700 price point for a lower end handheld and think of, all right, well, what am I really getting out of this? Well, I think you kind of answered your own question. Like, maybe this isn't for you. Yeah. Like, I feel like it's a much tougher sell when you're already in this ecosystem steam that you're enjoying and you have all your questions. answered. Your use cases are covered. You don't need this. But I do think it's for the people that don't have a Steam library, do have an Xbox library, do have GamePass, do have an Xbox, and just want, or do have a badass, like, let's take Xbox out of it, have a 4080 in their PC or whatever,
Starting point is 00:20:08 and wants to be in the Xbox ecosystem. This is the answer. Like, we'll wait and see how good it actually is, but based on how good the ally so far is, they've lived up to expectations. Like, it is a very high quality machine. It has its quirks. Everything does. But like I do think that like we know the audience for this and it's not you. It would be you if you hadn't already committed. Sure. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:20:30 I'm just fascinated by like how I'm not, I'm fascinated by I guess the amount of Xbox audience that are going to go all in on this thing. And I guess the transition for Xbox is like, hey, this is where the ship's headed no matter what. Like we are an ecosystem. And so to follow along on this path, right? Like you just have to get used to having that freedom of all right, you got an Xbox console. or we have ASU's manufacturing and handheld or we have Lenovo giving you this thing or we have a PC tower
Starting point is 00:21:00 that is Xbox brand like it's a wild feature we're entering I'm just so fascinated by how that looks years down the line and like how much buy-in you have from the audience as far as what that is because I think overall that final product could be so fucking cool and so fucking convenient I just think that we should set expectations
Starting point is 00:21:16 correctly of all right like this thing let's say it comes out at 900 $1,000 let's say it comes out $1,000 How many units are they actually expecting to move and what are they considering a success? I have a feeling they're being realistic about this and they know that this is probably going to top out at best. And it is Xbox marketing and pushing one for the first time. What will that end up looking like and how successful could it possibly be for them? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:21:42 Over the first year, if everything works out perfectly, four million units sold for this thing? I mean, that's a lot. I don't know. Four million units? That's a lot. How many, I mean, how many Xboxes are out, like Xbox Series X's slash S's are out there?
Starting point is 00:22:00 Yeah. I mean, I feel like that's my thinking as far as... Do you think I'm over or undershooting it there? I think you're overshooting. Okay, well, yeah, okay, cool, cool, yeah. I mean, that's, that's me literally saying, like, max it out there.
Starting point is 00:22:10 Yeah. Okay, sure. What can we, like, what can we expect from it? Like, it'll be less than five million. Less than a handful of million. And, man, this is going to be me undershooting it. Like, Kevin's brought up 32 point, uh, uh, uh, 32.46 million units of the Xbox series X slash S have been sold.
Starting point is 00:22:28 And this is from VG charts from February 2025. So that should be up to date for the most of the generation. Let me clarify what I'm saying here. I am aware of how many steam decks are out there. That's the point I'm trying to make. Yeah. I'm saying this is the first time we're getting Xbox pushing one of these handhelds. And this is going to be in best buys.
Starting point is 00:22:46 This is going to be pushed officially by Xbox in storefronts in a way that steam's not. So I do think that it has a better chance of selling more than a Steam Deck simply due to marketing. So I don't know that it's going to, but I'm saying like that's kind of the top level of what this can even be. See, my immediate prediction that I would throw out there is a million. I think they'd see that as a success. Yeah. And that's my thing is I wonder if they see that as a success. And I would hope that like those are the kind of numbers that they're working with over there.
Starting point is 00:23:17 Especially if the plan is to continuely license this out. Because if you sell a million of the Xbox allies and then a million of another thing and then a million of another, like those numbers do you add up as far as what that does for the Xbox ecosystem. Yeah, which I think is what they're going to do. Speaking of the Xbox ecosystem, we have breaking news, everybody. This comes from, oh man, Kevin, I might need you to pull up. There's in the Slack channel, Roger has it is breaking. There's a video that accompanies this tweet, but there's a tweet from Xbox that went live at 10 a year. this morning that says announcing that we're building the next generation of Xbox first party devices
Starting point is 00:23:55 and cloud, including our future Xbox consoles together with AMD. Next level performance, cutting edge graphics, breakthrough gameplay, and unmatched compatibility. Stay tuned for what's next. Unmatched compatibility. Yeah, man. We're here. We were talking about the future. It's now.
Starting point is 00:24:15 It's crazy how much this fits in the conversation we're having as far as licensing this thing. out. Yeah. Wow. Can you press play with sound? I want to hear what Sarabon is saying in this video. Vision is for you to play the games you want with the people you want anywhere you want. That's why we're investing in our next generation hardware lineup across console, handheld, PC, cloud, and accessories. I am thrilled to share we've established a strategic multi-year partnership with AMD to co-engineer Silicon across a portfolio of devices, including our next generation Xbox consoles in your living room and in your hands. Together with AMD, we are advancing the state of art in gaming silicon to deliver the next generation of graphics innovation,
Starting point is 00:24:56 to unlock a deeper level of visual quality, and immersive gameplay and player experiences enhanced with the power of AI, all maintaining compatibility with your existing library of Xbox games. This is all about building you a gaming platform that's always with you, so you can play the games you want across devices anywhere you want, delivering you an Xbox experience, experience, not locked to a single store or tied to one device. That's why we're working closely with the Windows team to ensure that Windows is the number one platform for gaming. The next generation of Xbox is coming to life and this is just the beginning. We can't wait to show you what's next. I'm going to be so annoying saying the same
Starting point is 00:25:39 goddamn thing over and over, but I believe it so much. I'm going to continue to do that, bless. Go for it. The next generation is going to be the least crossing of generations we've ever scene. It's going to be just more continuing the same. I think the biggest difference on the Xbox side is they're finally going to be able to hit that point of it's not Xbox console and Xbox PC. It's just Xbox. And that means the console is gone. It is PC. It is a PC in your living room. It's a PC in your hands. It's a PC, whatever it is. It is a computer. And we can say, oh, consoles are like computers or whatever. It's like there's clearly a difference though when there are console games and computer games and all this stuff,
Starting point is 00:26:19 that's going to be the difference of next gen. And that's just going to be, oh, there's the standard of whatever the next gen hardware that they're talking about here. Yeah, that'll just be a high-end thing for you to buy to play these games well. And then there's going to be so many more skews than there's ever been to play Xbox games. We're here already.
Starting point is 00:26:36 They're just telling us it loud and clear that they are partnering with AMD to make sure compatibility works as they do this and continue to do this. They're already doing it. Yeah. Like I really don't think we're going to see a huge, difference of let me say this I don't necessarily I don't think it's gonna be about power
Starting point is 00:26:51 yeah I don't think I don't think we're gonna get Xbox next generation exclusive games okay okay I see what you're saying and like that's already kind of been what Xbox has been doing but I do think at a certain point
Starting point is 00:27:04 there'll have to be some cutoff point it'll be a PC it'll be just like a PC of there'll be minimum system specs yeah I mean it's funny because yeah as I read this and as I heard Sir Bond talking about video right like the word she's saying in the tweet them saying next level performance cutting edge graphics breakthrough gameplay and unmatched compatibility one most of that maybe outside of unmatched compatibility
Starting point is 00:27:25 because I think I can read into that in different ways but all those other words I'm like all right cool that sounds like any console upgrade that sounds like anything right but like Sarah Bond mentioning AI as well my brain automatically goes to like all the stuff that we've been talking about with Nvidia DLSS and all that stuff but then also the pisser for on the PlayStation side right like a lot of these words could also just apply to a pro console with which Xbox didn't do this generation right? They didn't do the Xbox Pro thing or PS5 Pro thing. But also I think that is because things are becoming just really different compared to previous generations where, yeah, those lines
Starting point is 00:27:57 aren't as clear cut and I don't think it's as exciting. Like the PlayStation 5 Pro, it's in the same way that we're talking about like the Xbox handout stuff being for the hardest of the hardcore, right? Like PS5 Pro, I'd also say it's for the hardest of the hardcore or people that really care about that visual fidelity experience. But I think it's a weird slash hard thing to market as far as like telling people that are playing a console that already still looks fantastic that AI is going to make their game look so much better or whatever this is like as somebody who like you know I look at the GTA 5 GTA 6 trailer that says is running on a base PS pie pro I look at the um uh death straight any two trailers or like even the death 302 gameplay I had
Starting point is 00:28:36 when I got to preview the game and I'm like brother the PS5 base console still looks phenomenal it's really tough to push power. I think Xbox is doing it the right way where I look at this and I'm like, hey, that's a really exciting prospect for next generation. Is it for it to be about everything that you're saying, Tim,
Starting point is 00:28:57 it to be about the PC stuff, it to be about, all right, give people the power to make Xbox whatever they want, and it's going to be about essentially flooding the market with our ways to get into our ecosystem as opposed to like trying to sell a box
Starting point is 00:29:09 that is getting harder and harder to sell. Yeah, I truly think, that we're at a point and we've been here a while and I think the Switch 2 is evidence of it from the Nintendo side that the next-gen hardware being the exciting part, I think is a thing of the past. I think it is a promise
Starting point is 00:29:24 of the games you're playing are going to play better there. The games are the exciting part. This is actually a good thing. Yes. And it's exciting that we can play our games in more different ways on lower end things so people have lower barriers of entry to playing so many games, but then also on the high end things of how far do you want to
Starting point is 00:29:40 push this and how many options do you have to push it that high. And with the advent of all of this AI tech in different ways, like we're seeing so many strides happening and so many amazing things. And is it perfect? No, nothing of this is. Does that help keep the price down for a lot of stuff?
Starting point is 00:29:55 Yes. Does it get the results we need better than not? I'd say overall, yes. Looking at all the digital foundry switch two coverage has been so fascinating where there's multiple games, not all, but there are multiple games like Hogwarts legacy that are running better on the
Starting point is 00:30:10 switch two and looking better on the switch two, than other systems because of the DLSS. Like, it's just interesting that like, when you use the tech correctly, even a underpowered system can look pretty... You can get the most out of it. And guess what? Buying a PS5 Pro, it's going to look better on that.
Starting point is 00:30:28 Buying a $4,000 PC, it's going to look way better on that. Yes. Yeah. But it's about being able to look really good at different levels for different price points and different entry points, but running well all the same.
Starting point is 00:30:39 So I also think that AMD, great partner. AMD has been really taken over the processor game when it comes to the PC gaming side of things for a long time where like people my generation has been so tied on to Intel because they were the ones
Starting point is 00:30:55 and now whenever you look at like what are the best gaming PC builds everyone's talking AMD you know the thread ripper the rise and all this stuff is like there's there is a focus there that yeah Microsoft like leaning into them and making these partnerships and kind of fill in the the voids that they have technologically
Starting point is 00:31:11 I think is all great news. I still wish it was all happening now. I can't believe we're 10 years into having this same conversation and them adding more and more attempts to make this all make sense. But the thing is, if you're paying attention, it already is. Yes. I want to bring in some super chats. A lot of people wrote in.
Starting point is 00:31:28 Let's start with Calvin Perez that says it's someone who used to have to sell game pass. Xbox struggles to mass market these things. Price will be a big barrier of TBH. I think this will flop. I think I have multiple thoughts on this. I think one, yes. Xbox is going to struggle, I think, marketing it, but I think it is that it's going to be repetition.
Starting point is 00:31:47 I think for me, this comes back to you, conversations we had during the Xbox showcase where, like, we're talking about Xbox Play Anywhere, we're talking about the cloud, we're talking about, well, we weren't talking about smart delivery, but I even throw smart delivery. And, like, all the buzzwords of it, I think you're going to have to either refine down
Starting point is 00:32:06 some of those marketing pushes to be a bit more like, like I think Play Anywhere might be the thing that you focus on the most of like, all right, this is what we're saying and this is what we're pushing because it's the most true. Or this is an Xbox, right? Like, we have to choose one and fucking roll with it. They're different things, though. Yeah, but it's,
Starting point is 00:32:21 they're different things. Are they? What's different about those? What's different about them is that this is an Xbox is saying that like any, so many different devices, not every device, not a PlayStation 5, not a Switch, not a, not a, not this, not a bad. But so many you have the ability to play Xbox. So, have the ability to play Xbox PC games.
Starting point is 00:32:36 Yes. That's important. Play anywhere is, you can play on PC or X, Xbox. This is an Xbox doesn't have to do with the Xbox, the console, and it's gaming features and games. It has to do a cloud, though, right? But see, now we're adding extra things to it.
Starting point is 00:32:53 You can't play Xbox games. Is cloud a different thing than this is an Xbox? Like, is cloud not included in that conversation? I mean, I feel like that starts getting really, really vague about it all. And sure, if you want to- That's how I've always- Then, I mean, yes, via the cloud, you could do all of this. Yes.
Starting point is 00:33:08 That is true. My thing is we're going to have to get to the place And I think this is the future, right? Just not right now. That's true. Everything's a PlayStation too then. Everything's a steam. But I think Xbox is trying to do that thing where everything really is an Xbox.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Like I think they're trying to make those mean the same thing as far as play anywhere and this is an Xbox. And you have to get those to be the same thing. I guess here's the thing. You got to take cloud out of it because people are expecting that that means that you can play it. You can execute the thing on the system. And if they don't, if we are just talking about cloud. I think Xbox doesn't want that. I think Xbox is trying to wipe that part of it.
Starting point is 00:33:42 Because that's how you... That is marketing that you're never going to get across to people because if you lined up 10 different people that have different levels of game in them and you ask them like, oh, you tell them, hey, this is an Xbox. Like you can just play anything in Xbox and you ask them, what questions do you have? I feel like out of the 10, you're going to get at least three or four of them that ask a question that the thing that they're asking, well, you can't do that. I mean, but this is the exact problem.
Starting point is 00:34:08 I think that we're having with the Xbox stuff because when they say this is an Xbox, my phone, my Samsung Galaxy S-25, this is an Xbox, right? My iPhone. That's via cloud. My Samsung Smart TV at home is, I think it could be an Xbox, but I don't think it's the most recent one, but pretend I have an advanced smart TV,
Starting point is 00:34:24 right? Like, that's an Xbox. I should be able to transfer from playing my box, like my console to my TV, to my phone, to my PC, and it all works seamlessly. That's where the This is an Xbox has to meet, play anywhere. Because Play Anywhere is what's going to meet the save data,
Starting point is 00:34:41 like the Xbox PC version of the game to the Xbox console's version of the game. Those have to be able to speak and talk to each other in a way that's seamless. And we've been talking about this, right? I think the future is no more Xbox console. Xbox PC is just the way to go. The next Xbox console is going to be a PC. And that is, all the stuff is confusing. Like all the stuff is, like, I think, hard to navigate from a marketing perspective.
Starting point is 00:35:05 I think we understand the bulk of it. because we're so paying attention to it and we're so like in, we're in the weeds on this stuff. But for Joe Schmo, who's at home who doesn't pay attention to this stuff and like Xbox does a commercial that is playing where this is an Xbox
Starting point is 00:35:20 or whatever, right? Like they're gonna have questions. What's up? Greg Miller. I'm listening on a delay. So I've probably lost the last 30 seconds. But you're talking about the seamless experience of going between them. Like that exists.
Starting point is 00:35:31 Like that happens. That exists in terms of jumping all around. Not every game as you're talking about. This is a conversation from yesterday of, you know, the play anywhere thing being a big deal going forward, but there are so many games that are there. But like right now,
Starting point is 00:35:42 when I'm playing something on cloud and I turn it off and go to my Xbox downstairs or whatever, and I turn on my Xbox, I go to Starfield or whatever, oblivion. It'll say, hold on, sinking your save, and I'm done and I'm in.
Starting point is 00:35:53 I pick up where I left off. And if I boot it up, like if I'm playing on my Rog ally, and then I go to the X and I still have my session open. The X'll open and be like, oh, hey, you have a window session going. Are you good to close that? I'll say, yep, and they'll bring my save over there.
Starting point is 00:36:07 So that's happening already in terms of that ubiquitousness of it. Okay. You saying going from the cloud to your phone to this. And you also brought up your phone of like the cloud. This is the Xbox bit also works on the phone because, of course, remote play, which I think is a big part of what they're pitching when they're talking about this. For having zero thing. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:23 I always loop in the remote playing cloud into the same thing, even though I know they're different. Yeah, yeah. You're playing off of something on the server. Yeah. Cloud, you have nothing. Yeah. Tim, I saw you shaking your head for a second. Oh, I just think it's so funny, like how clear this is when the entire chat can't agree. and everyone's saying,
Starting point is 00:36:37 this guy's right, this guy's right, we're not even disagreeing necessarily about anything we're saying. Yeah. Which is hilarious, unless you do you disagree with something being said?
Starting point is 00:36:46 No, I just wanted to clarify that like, which is so this is hilarious, but whatever. So do you, here's my one thing, right? Based on what you just said,
Starting point is 00:36:53 Greg, versus I think what me and Tim are going back and forth on, what you said to me sounds like Xbox play anywhere in Xbox, or this is an Xbox already have that like,
Starting point is 00:37:02 I feel like those could be morph into one thing is the conversation that I'm trying to have. Yeah. We're at a point right now. It sounds like we're already kind of there. We are.
Starting point is 00:37:10 I really think the turning point you saw at SGF where they were like, hey, third parties are putting this into Xbox play anywhere. Yeah. That's the future. And so now it's going to be fewer and fewer and fewer until hopefully there are no games that aren't play anywhere going forward. Yes. It's just the fact that we've had so many not false starts, but programs and trials and things Xbox is done that you get to this weird part of, you know, the old example of, all right, cool, I'm playing the outer worlds. but there's an Xbox version and a PC version and they don't talk to each other
Starting point is 00:37:38 even though they're both on GamePass so it's not a player or a title so I started up like what the fuck am I doing? Yes. But that's grandfathered in, right? That's the fact that technology is constantly changing business agreements are constantly changing. Sarah today,
Starting point is 00:37:50 them at SGF, clearly going forward this is what they're trying to do. This is the future of Xbox but it means there's going to be some things in the past that don't work out the way they want them to. All right, cool. Appreciate it, Greg. Thank you for the clarification.
Starting point is 00:38:03 I want to bring in the, second half of the super chat that I was reading from, where is it? Where is it? Was it Calvin Perez? Oh no, I lost the super chat. The super chat that I read was the first half was about what we're talking about as far as it being messy.
Starting point is 00:38:18 And then the second half was saying that they think it's going to flop. I don't think it's going to flop. I think that's the part where I differ. I do think that this is a very forward-looking plan as far as like where everything is going, right? But to bowl it down more, I think it's meeting the audience where they're at, it's looking at where Xbox is at in the quote-unquote console race that just doesn't exist anymore, right? But where they're at position-wise and finding a space that actually fits
Starting point is 00:38:46 for them and works for them and isn't going to be them constantly chasing the other two platforms. Like, this is a unique space that they're occupying. I also think they just have too much, they have control of too many pieces for this to be not successful. They have more studios than any publisher right now, I'm pretty sure. Absolutely. And they have the platform. It's They have windows. They're doing it. They're winning already in their lane. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:08 Like, and they're only going to win more unless they royally fuck it up, which they very much can. Sure. And we've seen them do in the past. And I do think that they are clearly already at a point that this is unruly. There are too many things to handle it once and too many things you have to message at once. But because they've had to do this for so long and because they've made so many choices and committed to them, like, we're already there and we're only going to get more there. And it's only going to get more seamless. And the internet's only going to get more seamless.
Starting point is 00:39:34 get better so cloud's only going to get better all these things are just going to improve and the people that are investing or have invested in the xbox system for a long time they're going to be very happy because they're going to only have more ways to play better uh the one more thing i'll say to this too is i i think the important thing one of the important things here is meeting the consumer where they're at right consoles are getting more expensive hardware is getting more expensive expensive software is getting more expensive. Games are going to go to $80. Games might go up more.
Starting point is 00:40:10 Like, let's see what GTA6 launches for and what ripple effect that makes as far as how much the stuff costs to make. At the same time, again, I've shouted out this video from Alana Pierce a million times, right? But, like, Alana Pierce has a very good video kind of talking about, like,
Starting point is 00:40:24 where the video game industry is at as a, I believe, as like, a matured business and, like, how the money that's being made has started to even out in a way where shareholders and investors are pulling their money out, right? Like, as that is happening, one of the big challenges and one of the things that factors into that is where, how do we find more people to be video game fans? Like, what more people can we sell video games to?
Starting point is 00:40:50 The biggest barrier to entry for so many, for so much of the audience is going to be money. I can't afford the new PlayStation. I can't afford the new Switch. I can't afford to buy the new Switch and then buy games for $80. Xbox in real time is figuring that out. And I'm not saying they're doing this out of the goodness of their own hearts. They're doing this to figure out how to make more money out of the industry.
Starting point is 00:41:11 But as a result, right, like they're putting in real work into figuring out, okay, we have Game Pass, which gives people a membership so they can play our big first party games. We have cloud so that you don't have to have a console. If we can make your phone into it, like that's why they're going after phones. Everybody doesn't have a console. Everybody has a smartphone. Like that is the way to get your game in front of people. And I think it's a very good strategy.
Starting point is 00:41:33 I will think that it will work. It's not 100% guarantee, but I see the vision. I think the vision is there as far as why they're doing this and why there's a high potential for success with them doing it. Absolutely. Oh, my God. We got so many super chats, y'all. Thank you for riding in.
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Starting point is 00:43:12 Let's hop into a super chat. From George Corona the 3rd. He says, I like where Xbox is going, but TBH, this marketing re-chips, Silicon, this is an Xbox, et cetera, starts to get confusing. How did he market this plan with simplicity of what console gaming brings to the table? I honestly think that it needs to get just a little bit more clear and it needs to just work in a way that how you expect things to work, it does.
Starting point is 00:43:40 And we're close. We're just not there right now. Yeah. But I think we're very, very close. I think truthfully, the biggest problem is that a lot of these systems and services started around the release of Crackdown 3. And after Crackdown 3, there was a couple just meandering titles that came out. and it wasn't until The one that Andy really liked
Starting point is 00:44:02 Recore, yeah That was even before this I'm talking about like the first games That were available as day one First Party Xbox games on GamePass Gotcha When they announced GamePass
Starting point is 00:44:13 It was like for reals This is crazy But their offering was kind of like All right, cool But when this is Gears and when this is Halo And when this is Forza It's going to be a much bigger deal
Starting point is 00:44:23 And then Gears 5 happened And then they continued And we got Halo Infinite And we got Forza And we got more Forza And we got a lot of We're at a point now that like the train has left the station. The dominoes have been fucking falling.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Yeah. And we're at a point now that there is already a lot of the questions answered. It's just not all of them. And you add third parties, you add other things. That's where it gets complicated. But for the bulk of things that matter to the core Xbox audience, it already makes sense. The question is how you get someone that's not in that audience in there?
Starting point is 00:44:56 Yeah. And I think that that is a tough sell, until you were at a Best Buy at storefronts and able to explain to the random people, yes, you can play your Xbox games on this. You get them saying? Like, that's how you sell them. And that is the marketing push.
Starting point is 00:45:11 And I think that getting these into stores and Xbox, them being Xbox branded is going to go such a long way. We've seen so many devices. Like, think about the backbone controllers. They sell well. Then you slap a PlayStation thing on it. It sells better because it feels more like,
Starting point is 00:45:25 oh, this is something I need as a PlayStation fan. If they can sell people are Xbox fans or people that want to get into Xbox, I think there are more people that are just like wanting a gaming PC that are willing to buy a handheld device with the Xbox logo on it, than the Steam logo.
Starting point is 00:45:41 Because if they, because if they wanted the Steam logo, they'd have a PC and they'd already know this stuff. Yeah. We don't need to convince them. See, I think that's the only place where I differ. But like, I think... In what way?
Starting point is 00:45:54 I think Steam, I think... That stuff makes more sense to the... I think to the... person who's wanted to buy a PC handheld, right? Like, I think Steam has such a domination on the PC. Well, that's what you don't need to market to them. Sure. What's about marketing to people that, that don't know about these products or, like, aren't,
Starting point is 00:46:11 that you're trying to convince them to buy it. Yeah. You don't need to convince people to buy a Steam deck. I guess that, and maybe that is more of the point that I'm making, right, is I think a PC handheld with a Steam logo versus a PC handheld with an Xbox logo, like the Steam handheld just has more potential for selling, just because that audience is more, more, I guess, tuned to what that is. And, like, I think it's, it's an easier.
Starting point is 00:46:33 The Steam handheld? Yeah. Not a chance, really? Not a chance, man. I don't know. I think the PC market has grown, like, a lot. Like, buy a lot. PC market, yes, but I think that the handheld gaming side, that is still a console
Starting point is 00:46:47 feeling thing. Not anymore. I think I can you say that. And I know that we were going long on this, but like, the switch to a console handheld. Sure. And it's Nintendo, but what, what caveat? we have to give this. Like,
Starting point is 00:47:00 in a couple days is already outselling this stuff, right? Yeah, but that's Nintendo. I think Xbox is a different beast as far as like where Xbox sits is for marketability.
Starting point is 00:47:08 And especially on a PC platform currently, like, Steam is just the number one platform on, on PC. Yeah. On a computer. And when you make a PC handheld, right,
Starting point is 00:47:18 like that Steam is, I think Steam just makes the most sense for marketability and for that audience understanding. And I think that audience is huge in the last 10 years. Like Steam has only gone up. Whereas Xbox, is kind of like hasn't had that same I guess upward trajectory. I think that's the that is my point somewhere in there is that it's I think that gaming PCs
Starting point is 00:47:40 have a much shallower market ceiling than gaming handhelds like gaming console handhelds however you want to think about it where yes, Steam is dominant on PC but we're seeing how much these things are selling and it's not that much. So I feel like the the, the, a portable Xbox, I think, has a higher ceiling. I'm fascinated by how much it sells. But I mean, look at the PlayStation Portal as how well that thing sells. Like, I think there's something about the way that people play console games and the way you think about the handheld experience with those games is different than the PC side,
Starting point is 00:48:16 despite the PC side being there and doing it and proving that they can. Yeah, but I think the Nintendo aspect of it and the PlayStation aspect of it makes it a way different thing. I think Nintendo has the history of handhelds. And also, that's the only way now that you can play Nintendo is via handheld. I think a PlayStation Portal. counts more as an accessory, but even with that, right? Like, we know what PlayStation does as far as their ecosystem
Starting point is 00:48:36 where it all fits in that hardware lineup, right? They're making these premium products that are enhancing the way you play on your PlayStation. Xbox is making, is partnering with a PC handheld maker to make a PC handheld, which I think is unprecedented territory for them. And also it's going to pose just, I think, a lot of challenges, especially for where Xbox, the brand of Xbox is at
Starting point is 00:48:57 versus where PlayStation Nintendo is at. Yeah. We'll see. We'll see where the numbers land. It's an uphill battle, but yeah, we should check it on this. Because I do think that to answer the question here of how you market it, you market it as a portable Xbox. And if they can do that, they're going to get sales.
Starting point is 00:49:13 Let's move on. The story number, this is actually story number two because we had breaking news. So we went one breaking in now. Story number two, PlayStation, the concert finally gets U.S. tour dates. This is Wesley LeBlanc at Game Informer. The U.S. leg of PlayStation, the concerts. tour starts in New York City on October 11th at the theater at Madison Square Garden, no less. And tickets will go on sale June 20th. But the tour includes more than 20 other stops in 2025
Starting point is 00:49:42 before another 40 stops around the country in 2026. PlayStation the concert showcases a stunning fusion of multiplayered visuals, immersive surround sound, and an all-star ensemble, featuring classical and modern instruments of press release reads. And Tim, I broke this out. February 15th, 2026 is when they come to San Francisco, California, Golden Gate Theater. Hell, yes. Is that the one that had the Sonic concert in it? No, unfortunately it's not. Golden Gate's the smaller one.
Starting point is 00:50:09 It's where they did the, uh, did you go to the Spiderverse Orchestra concert? No. I did go to the Avatar one, which I forget. No, Avatar was the Sonic one. So you're telling me that it's a smaller one. The PlayStation concert is getting a smaller theater than the Sonic the Hedgehog concert? I am. Oh, what a shame.
Starting point is 00:50:26 I am. What a shame. We're back. We're back. We're fucking back, dude. Let's go. God, I want that show to come back. This on a ground two, baby.
Starting point is 00:50:34 Let's go. Come on. Obviously, very excited about this. I've been excited since they announced PlayStation the concert. I've said this a little bit on shows. I'm pretty significantly let down by this show, though. I've watched it all on YouTube at this point. I've read a bunch of reviews of it.
Starting point is 00:50:50 Obviously, it's cool. It's a lot of great PlayStation songs and they're orchestrated, and I love that. They got a medley on the intro and outro combining things, and it's pretty damn cool. but the overall presentation of this thing, not great. I think it's overproduced in the wrong ways, underproduced in the actual performance of music. Like, they do the thing where the majority of the tracks are pre-recorded.
Starting point is 00:51:13 And there's like, you hear 10 violins, but there's two violins on stage. A lot of stuff like that that I'm like, oh yeah, and it's at the Golden Gate Theater and SF, like, they just ain't trying that hard. Are you going to go to it? I'm still going. Oh, yeah. And like, it's still great music.
Starting point is 00:51:25 And it's still like, I'd rather hear two violins than none. but yeah I am a little let down with how much they've been hyping this up of like this is about to be a concert experience like you've never seen like all their trailers are very like we're doing this crazy tech or whatever and then you see it and you're just like there's just a bunch of sacred symbols flying around in ways that I'm like I literally use that B-roll for edits that I've done like this isn't as special as you made it out to be. Dang so definitely let down on that front but it's great songs I mean I'm not going to be mad here in the Ragnarok theme and the Charity theme and last of us. It's great stuff. Story number three, Red Dead Redemption voice actors seem to be teasing a Red Dead Related announcement coming this week. This is David Carcassol at WCCF Tech. Rob Weathoff, the actor who plays John Martston in Red Dead Red Dead Redemption and RDR2,
Starting point is 00:52:15 teased in a live stream this past Saturday while playing Red Dead Redemption that there's something coming this week related to the Red Dead series, likely closer to Friday, that he's incredibly excited to share and discuss with players once the news is made public. Quote, I've got such exciting news. I can't wait to, I can't share it with you right now. And it's absolutely killing me. He began, I love people that can't keep secrets. Oh yeah. Oh, yeah. Quote, by the end of this week, hopefully sooner, not this week, I guess, probably not as soon as tomorrow, but definitely before Friday. Oh, my goodness, the news that I have to share all these person at the seams, he's person at the seams. And I won't be the only one sharing
Starting point is 00:52:53 it. I cannot wait for you to know what's going on. That's all I can say. end quote. What made it seem like a direct reference to Red Dead and a Red Dead related announcement coming this or coming is that he ended his vague and excited statement by saying quote, I'm so excited but I truly cannot think of anything else, especially playing this game. I can't think of anything else. End quote.
Starting point is 00:53:17 I love it. I love it so much. Adding to his vague statements after the live stream was Roger Clark, the actor who plays Arthur Morgan and Red Dead Redemption 2. When asked if he knew what Weithoff was talking about on X, he replied with a simple, quote, yes, and a gif of a grinning dog, smiling like they have a secret. No one else knows. Then, Nashir DeLal, the voice actor for Charles and Red Dead Red Dead Red Dead Redemption 2, replied to Clark's tweet with his own vague tease, adding even more weight to the pile. Dildo in the chat. No.
Starting point is 00:53:50 Yeah. No. Yeah, it's Dildo with a Y. He says him and Sorry him and Roger Clark are going to do a stream or something I doubt it's anything big And then Jake Collato says it's a podcast I bet Maybe they're doing something like Troy and
Starting point is 00:54:04 Nolan did of like you know stream and playing through the games or something That would make sense for the level that they're hyping it like them too Yeah But there has been a lot of rumors of The streets have been talking about Red Dead Red Dead Red Dead Red Demption 2 Yeah The remaster Yeah 60 FPS switch 2's out
Starting point is 00:54:20 I don't know I hope I hope so Tim Where's the Nintendo Switch direct for, like, the third party direct? Are we getting one of those? No. I mean, not right now. Not by the end of June?
Starting point is 00:54:33 No. We got the third party games that are like the next couple months, I think. Like, where are they going to talk about the new Justiceans? But I don't know. I just don't know. Ubisoft will figure it out. But I feel like we have Star Wars outlaws, right? That's coming.
Starting point is 00:54:49 There are still third party games this year that they announced that aren't out yet. So I do I think we're pretty locked in third party wise. Not really. Like I think once we, we already have a couple questions like when's remake coming? Final Fantasy 7 remake. Yeah. Like it's announced, but we don't have a date. Did they say this year?
Starting point is 00:55:07 They did. Okay. I think we clarified they did recently. But yeah, there's that. There's Star Wars. There are a couple other like heavy hitters. We got more breaking news. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:55:16 Let's Google this one. Let's Google this one. Let's see. Let's see. Okay, I just got to, it's not on Google yet, so I'm just going to go to blue sky, see what pops up, chat. Oh, man. Tim, read story number four. I'm reading story number four.
Starting point is 00:55:31 Fortnite launches new four player PVE mode that's essentially hell divers with Lego. That's a lot of brand names. This comes from Tom Phillips at IGN. Years before Fortnite became a battle royale phenomenon, epic game shooter originally launched as a PVE game with an offering now dubbed Save the World that saw teams working together to survive against waves of zombies.
Starting point is 00:55:51 Now, Fortnite's returning to its roots with the Lego Fortnite Expeditions, a fresh mission-based PVE mode for up to four players, which looks like a mix of the game's existing Lego gameplay with PlayStation console hits, Hell Divers. Pretty sick.
Starting point is 00:56:04 Developer Epic Games is positioning expeditions to be another permanent Fortnite mode and the game's third major Lego experience after the survival-focused Lego Odyssey and Sim-like Lego brick life. I love that they're still doing this. Yeah. God damn Fortnite continued to expand
Starting point is 00:56:18 as a platform of games. Fortnite continuing to look at what other games are doing and going, We should make a mode. We should do that too. Let's make money from this. Oh, we got hell divers. All right, let's make it Lego and put it out to children.
Starting point is 00:56:28 Mm-hmm. Good for you, Fortnite, I guess. I can't find people, okay, so the breaking news seemingly from chat. And so don't take this as a confirmation yet, but people in chat are saying marathon is delayed. I can't find it. Paul Tassie's being named dropped in the chat. I'm searching for the Tassi later. I'm going to have to go to the forbidden place.
Starting point is 00:56:49 Update from the marathon team. There we go. G.net here. Let's go through here. Marathon Development Update. This was 11 hours ago. It probably was, oh man. Yeah, that was scheduled from 11 hours ago,
Starting point is 00:57:02 but I think it just went live. There's a lot of words here. I'm gonna... I mean, I can read them. I got in front of me. They don't look interesting. They don't look in front? No, this doesn't seem like...
Starting point is 00:57:14 Here's the thing. I got a tweet from Shinobi, who links to the same thing that says Marathon has been delayed, Bungi to focus on feedback over the next several months. areas of focus include better AI So they don't they don't officially say Okay hold on here we go
Starting point is 00:57:28 After much discussion within our dev team We've made the decision to delay The September 23rd release Over the next few months We'll continue closed testing Including participants from the alpha To deploy gameplay updates And test new features as they come
Starting point is 00:57:40 So there's no actual idea On when this is happening But It's officially been delayed Yeah man Man Man I think this is what we're gonna do
Starting point is 00:57:52 Let's tomorrow, because I know tomorrow's tomorrow's Donkey Kong day. Tomorrow's Donkey Kong game day. We still have KFCD tomorrow. Just after. We're going to talk about this on KHD tomorrow. Yeah, that sounds good. We're at the end of this show, sadly,
Starting point is 00:58:05 because I would love to break this down with you. There's a lot to talk about. But let's sit, let's let this simmer. Let's form our opinions over the next 24 hours. I love that. And come back as informed people. We really have a good conversation about this. For now, though, Tim, if I wanted something small,
Starting point is 00:58:19 say the tiniest, God, Greg's coming back here. Let's not transition. Small thing I've ever seen. He's got the handle. He's coming with a mic. It's not bad news. It's not bad news. I hear the bungee thing happened.
Starting point is 00:58:32 And then you were like, ha, I mean, like, we could just do a gamescast about it. We could roll into here if we wanted to. Like, I mean,
Starting point is 00:58:39 we're talking about what we've been playing on games cast. It's not like, it's like the biggest thing. We could, we could ride the thing here of, do you have that much to say? Do you? Bungie cooked.
Starting point is 00:58:47 I don't know that I have that much to say. I'm just an opportunity. Is that the conversation people, want. Let's see. Let's put up a poll. Do you want that or hot takes on Link's Awakening? Andy's got to talk about oh, where to go. He's got
Starting point is 00:59:02 to talk about Dune Awakening. Let Andy talk about Dune Awakening. I'm just putting it out there we could do. We can still talk. I was just, you know. Joey's been playing Animal Crossing on the Switch 2. Give the people what they want. All right. Tim. Yeah. We got a lot of big decisions to make.
Starting point is 00:59:19 As far as, are we keeping the ship? Or we change the ship? We're going to talk about Marathon? Big, big decisions. But if one is something small, say the tiniest news I needed to know about. Where'd I'd go? We go to our last story, the Wii News channel, where we cover all of the small news items that you need to know about. Story number five is Wii News. New Game Pass games have been announced.
Starting point is 00:59:37 Coming out today is FBC Fire Break, Crash Bandicoot 4 and lost in random the eternal die. Dude, fuck yeah, man. Crash Bandicoot 4, awesome game. Bledon and I played a little Crash 2 and Crash Team Racing yesterday. And we kept talking about Crash 4. Like, dude, Crash 4 is legit awesome. And other Wii news for you, Crash Team Racing as we were playing yesterday,
Starting point is 01:00:00 their account tweeted out that they've crossed 10 million sales. Oh, yeah, call that. For Crash Team Racing Nitro Field. Good for them. And why did they announce it yesterday? Were they watching Barrett's stream? Are they prepped for Barrett's Nottie Dog video at the end of the week? Wow.
Starting point is 01:00:13 Cool stuff. A lot to think about. On the 19th, you're getting rematch. On the 24th, you're getting Volcano Princess, and this is, of course, new Game Pass games. On the 26th, you're getting against the storm and Warcraft 1, 2 and 3. On the 30th, you're getting Call of Duty World War II. And then July 1st, you're getting Little Nightmares to you and Rise of the Tomb Raider.
Starting point is 01:00:30 And then for standard game pass, you're getting on the 18th Star Trucker and Wild Frost. Expedition 33's getting accessibility updates. This was tweeted by the Expedition 33 Twitter account where they said, Bonjour, we're currently exploring, that's how they say it over there. We're currently exploring a wide range of future. improvements. From accessibility features to new content and all sorts of bits and bobs, we're actively assessing. Naturally, this is also, this also includes expanded localization options. While we don't have specific timelines or confirm languages to share just yet,
Starting point is 01:01:04 one to let you know that it's very much on our radar. Wee. Because that's what, that's what we says. That's what Eski says. I'm so stoked about this. Them now official confirmation, we're getting new content. What's that look like? Future improvements. There's a lot of improvements I'd love to see a lot of things I'd love to see them. Even simple things like retry for different battles just make it a lot snappier. I would love a mini-map. I know that that would be a lot more work, but I think
Starting point is 01:01:29 that a lot of people agree with me. Not everybody, but I think that that might be something that they decide to add. And I am hopeful for a Switch 2 announcement because I think the game will thrive there. And I might be willing to replay it. Wow.
Starting point is 01:01:45 Yeah, I mean, I want to replay Expedition for sure. I agree. I'm like, I feel like That's one of them games that you were played for sure. Tron Catalyst reviews are here. Right now on Metacritic is sitting at a 69. Nice. And on Open Critic is sitting at a 68. IGN gave it a 7 out of 10 and says Tron Catalyst competently gets the job done as an action game.
Starting point is 01:02:04 But it's rarely more than just good. Speaking of reviews, early FBC Firebreak reviews are in two. On Metacritic is sitting out of 66. And on Open Critic is sitting at it 68. Game Rant gives it a 6 out of 10 and says, FBC Firebreak is a big swing for remedy entertainment that's definitely worth a few cheers. Yeah, we're about to do a stream of it in a couple hours right after games cast.
Starting point is 01:02:27 Let's go. Golden T Arcade Classics launches July 17th on Xbox, PS4, PS5 Switch in PC. And finally, Blueprints is getting some Mac support. And that is it for Wii News. Again, love seeing both Blueprints and Expedition 33 find even bigger and bigger audiences. Yeah, dude. I get out there. So, like, congrats,
Starting point is 01:02:48 Blueprints. I think on Mac, that's going to be, that's the type of game that I think you can get a lot of people that just have a MacBook but are kind of interested in games.
Starting point is 01:02:55 Yeah. I like that. I like that category of person. That's a freaking giant market share out there. Good for them. Good for them. Still using MacBooks. It's like, how about a PC,
Starting point is 01:03:05 you loser? You know, what are you doing on there? What are people still doing with MacBooks? Is that a MacBook? Yes. I'm not bad, bro. My bad. Shit.
Starting point is 01:03:12 Oh, man. That's awkward. Yeah, first it was the Pikmin. It was the MacBooks. What's next, everyone? Well, like, I feel like, Picman people and MacBook people, there's a big Van diagram there.
Starting point is 01:03:26 No, there's not. For sure, a big Venn diagram. Chat, if any of y'all play Pikmin, let me know what kind of computer you use. Lakers' Head. What computer you use, Lakers'Aid? Let me know. Let's see.
Starting point is 01:03:40 Street Shadow says, oh, X, I forgot. For a second, I was going to, like, yo, this is your wrong. You're right. It's not your right. It's not you're wrong. Street Shadow for Superchat says, Tim's right.
Starting point is 01:03:48 PlayStation Xbox and Nintendo have stronger brands than Steam. Even with fewer features, for example, a dedicated PlayStation handheld could reach far more people like Switch due to brand trust and loyalty. I disagree with some aspects there, but then also some aspects I think are just a very different thing. A dedicated PlayStation handheld is going to sell fantastic, especially depending on the amount of first party dedication to it, right? Like if all of the PlayStation games that we have are playable on a PlayStation handheld, yes, it's going to sell phenomenally because of the PlayStation brand. I think my argument comes back to the power of the PlayStation brand and the Nintendo brand versus the power of the Xbox brand in a gaming handheld space.
Starting point is 01:04:28 I think it's just different. But also, this is going to be a wait-and-see thing of like, let's see how the numbers speak. Kobe says PlayStation wheeling around Bloodborn's corpse at these concerts is going to make me huff an obscene amount of copium. Are they really playing bloodbore music? They're playing Bloodborn, bro. They're doing it. There's a whole Bloodborn suite.
Starting point is 01:04:50 They make the medley. I don't like that. You know what I mean? I hear representing Bloodborn when you want to. Like pick it and choosing. Make a remake already. Killian C says,
Starting point is 01:05:05 This is cool. I just wish they were including more classic PlayStation games. Games like Parapa, Vibribin. Parapa. What do you Fuck yeah, dude
Starting point is 01:05:17 Parapa, Vibribribin Parapa, Twyrsa metal Parapa I'm Jamer Lemmy Parapa He's a big old fan
Starting point is 01:05:24 of Parapa over here Um Let's see Let's see Let's see I'm with you though For reals I don't want to like
Starting point is 01:05:32 Take away from the fact That What's a PlayStation concert It's like Oh, It's all the music From the PlayStation 4 Generations of games
Starting point is 01:05:39 That we all love so much Which feels kind of boring you know but also some of the best music ever can't complain are they playing previous generations too
Starting point is 01:05:48 like is there PS1 PS2 is a shadow Colossus I guess yeah they do Shadow they do shadow they do
Starting point is 01:05:55 is there brave fencer musashi no there's not there's no crash there's no Final Fantasy there's no metal gear there's none of that stuff it's like
Starting point is 01:06:01 oh it's very PlayStation there's hell divers there's there's uh horizon there's Last of Us 1 and 2 uncharted gets a couple
Starting point is 01:06:09 got of war It's a couple. He just think. I was excited to go to this. You have thoroughly unsold me on to go to this thing. Maybe I'll see how I feel in February, 2026. I'm going for sure. I'm a sicko.
Starting point is 01:06:25 All right. We have so many super chats. Sadly, we do not have the time in the show to get to all of these. But there's going to be a one, I'm reading one more. I'm reading one more. Give me one more. Trevor writes in. Make it good, Trevor.
Starting point is 01:06:38 And says, I would argue against a $1,000 price. Marketing will focus more on console. players that have been tempted by handheld PC gaming so they do not want it to be that high. I'm praying for $800. I'm with you. I'm totally with you. But the one thing people don't want to hear are the facts. And we can talk all about, hey, like gaming's pricing people out.
Starting point is 01:07:00 When things are selling out in incredibly high prices, the market's saying something different. Yeah, but when you make 30 of those things and they sell out, it's like cool, 30 people paid $1,000. Yeah. Those suckers. Yeah, yeah, but that's not what's happening. I don't know why I'm playing a character today. I don't know who this person is. I don't even dislike Pickman.
Starting point is 01:07:17 He likes Pygman. I don't have an opinion on Pickman. I never played Pikman. I'd probably like it if I played it. Almar looks cute in the Smash games. He's doing things, man. He's doing. But I'm just saying Firellum has a million characters in Smash.
Starting point is 01:07:28 Yeah. You know what I mean? I don't want them to make individual. You're out here. The fact that you're blessing are out here fighting for Firebublob? A game you've never played. Yeah, but like I'm with the gamers. I meet the gamers where they're at and the gamers love Fireblo.
Starting point is 01:07:40 The gamers are fireball. Fuck yeah. Okay. let's go. Uh, Tim. that brings us to kindofnny.com slash you're wrong where you write in let us know what we got wrong as we got it wrong so we can correct it for those watching later on youtube and listening later on podcast services around the globe oh man these are a lot of these are opinions guys
Starting point is 01:08:01 all right let me reiterate what you're wrong is facts all right I want facts that we got wrong if I said that there have been five playstations and there have been sick off I fucked that already. If I said there's four play stations and there have been five, I want that as a correction. Hey, this is your chance right now. This is your chance. Get in there, kebabs. Let's see. Tim said, hold on.
Starting point is 01:08:27 See, that's not your wrong either. Tim, we got nothing wrong. We got nothing wrong in that whole show. That's how I felt. So it's nice to be confirmed. Yeah. Well, most we're getting are people disagreeing with certain points. Which is our point.
Starting point is 01:08:41 Yeah, which is, yeah. So really, we're right. that's it. That's it. That's been kind of funny games daily. There's a games cast after this. What are we're going to have to wait and see, all right? Tune into the games cast.
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