Kinda Funny Gamescast: Video Game Podcast - Dragon Quest VII Reimagined Review (So Far) - Kinda Funny Gamescast

Episode Date: February 2, 2026

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Go to boot.dev and use the code Kind of Funny to get 25% off your entire first year on the annual plan. If you want to get our shows ad-free and our exclusive shows, go to patreon.com slash Kind of Funny. What's up, everybody, and welcome to the Kind of Funny Games cast for February 2nd, 2006. I'm one of your host, Snowbike, Mike. And of course, today I am joined by my crew.

Oh, your crew. My cast, my party members. Your homies. My Dragon Questers. Okay? My main guys, Roger Bicorni and Greg Miller. Greg, I'll start with you. Hi.

Happy Monday. Having Monday to you, Mike. I'm glad you're back in the office. We missed you. I missed you. I am upset. You set off the alarm, though, on Friday night. Oh, he did?

Tell me this. I was dancing to the Migos. Couldn't hear it. I got to check the thing. Who's breaking in? I see my police are on their way. It's a fucking capricious bag as he's leaving. Press the buttons, you know what I mean?

I'm pressing buttons. hacking into the main phone buttons? I don't know. I don't know what happened. I don't know what happened. This is bad as the week before that where I was like, I was locking my house and I used the same security system. And then I was like, wait, I never saw that this place got locked after the end. And I went to the camera to see you gibronies out there watching fucking WWE. Yeah.

We're just hanging out. Yeah. We're having a nice time. We play dead luck. I listened to for a while. Yeah, it was all right. Well, Mike was mad. Let's be honest.

Let's have a conversation. I play at a high level, Greg. Yeah. And I can't. can't be brought down. Okay. I can't have anchors on the team. Who's the anchors?

Andy, Andy's anchoring me down. Not me, the person who has not really ever played this game, but Andy. You get the past because you learned. He needed me.

That's why he was trying to invite me to play that night. Yeah, but man, I missed you guys so much. I'm happy to be back. It's a new month. Can you believe January

already gone? 11 months left in the year. Oh, no. Pass it goes by, but a big month. Because, of course, if you missed it last week,

the crew did, the kind of funny games cast all the awesome games coming out in February. That's a must listen because there's a lot of great games coming your way. What's yours? What are you? What are you stuck on? Resident Evil.

Yeah. I'm going to get the boys in some short shorts. Oh, lot of motion. But yeah, Greg, I missed you a ton. I'm happy to be back. I think three days too long to be out of the office. Can you confirm or deny where you were? I cannot yet.

Okay. But you'll find out. Okay I'll find out Watch the buzz Watch the buzz Everybody There's some Easter eggs

Yeah He was just on that Carousel for three days I did have to do two takes on the carousel Okay Did one Full loop

She was like You got a little more time And I was like I'm gonna crush this And then it stopped abruptly And I was like You told me I had more time So I had to go back

I would have to take out of you I'm paying another $9 $1 Oh my Come back and do it The lady on the front desk Just so you know We're about the clothes sir

I'm like It's 8.45. You're the only person who's come by all day. You're like, Miss, you should have closed this place maybe four hours ago. Karen, that was three minutes. It's going to be fine. $9. And so, yeah, I have so much to talk about.

I have missed you guys so much. I'm happy to be back. But I'm also happy to be talking about Dragon Quest 7 reimagined Roger. Right there. He's playing it. You guys have a review so far. That's going to be the topic of the show. But that is also one of the big releases of the month.

Yeah. As well, you guys talked about that. last week. How was the vibes with that one during the podcast? Would the other boys interested at all? No, nobody had any, nobody said anything. But it's also, you know, with the other boys, there's always the thing of when you're not reviewing

a game here and you know other people are reviewing, you kind of let them lead the conversation because what can you say? What can you not say? Da-da-da-da-da. So I think that, but I don't think. I don't know. I mean, Bless would be the only one and I don't think Blest is lining up for this one. Yeah. Okay. Well, we'll find out about it. Should he? You'll find out soon enough. Roger, how are you?

I'm doing well. Did you miss me? You said you missed Greg a lot. You didn't miss me? I mean, I talked about you on the buzz. I did miss you. I was very jealous and I, God, I love watching you try to dapp up people. It is some of the funniest stuff. If you rewind the tape and watch Howard the Duck and get to see all the best friends come up and Dap Roger in some of the best moments of my life watching that.

I'll show you. I'll show you some of the videos. It's a lot of awkward hand moments from you. Where are you seeing this video? Kind of funny best friends on Reddit posts a lot of awesome behind the scenes footage of you guys sad. Of course, SF Sketch Fest, big meet and greet. I was jealous of. I'm not mad that I wasn't there or anything. You had to go

work. You had to go to the carousel. I had to go to work. I didn't see these videos. This just scared me. I was like, do you have just like, do you hackin into the mainframe? I mean, I'm always aware of what's happening here. I love the place to death. You know that. But there's a lot of, we got to come up with one of the universe. It's funny because I thought about it as well while I was on assignment, Greg.

We got to come up with one universal Dap. There's too much misdaped opportunities. And it's like, we just got to come up with it. Handshakes were pretty great for a while. That'd be nice. A firm handshake is nice. But if we're going to do the daps, let's make sure we do the dapp correctly. You know what I mean?

A lot of missed daps. It was a lot of that. That was a lot of that. Okay, but then you did that. You fucked up there. No, I'm showing me what you did. You think I reach back. I'll show you the video.

We'll review the tape. It's like you're skipping. I dapped up Duke Dennis, though. And that was pretty sick. I killed that. You know what? You completely switched me off. Yeah, you know, I fuck.

That's the coolest shit I could ever say. I daps up Duke Dennis and it was perfect. And Steve Ayoki. Woo. And the guy from Breaking Bad, one of the twins. I did do that. He did love you. Get through the rigmarole.

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What are we talking about? He's supposed to talk about it. 35 fucking hours into this game. I don't need you. I can just talk about it. I'll be great. Of course, super chat away, just like Ken Jr. did.

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Guys, let's jump into it. Let's talk about topic of the show. Dragon Quest 7 Reimagined. The review so far from Greg Miller and Roger Pekorney. Boys, you both have been playing it. We have the so far on there. Yeah. Of course, it's a big game.

A lot of hours to put in. Greg, let's start off with you. Hi. How far did you get in? What platform did you play on? I'm just shy. I have 35 hours right now. I was wrong in the meeting, by the way.

So I don't think I didn't do any work over the weekend. I was 27 in the meeting. I did put up some numbers. Good for you. All on Switch 2. With the exception, I guess, that I did the demo on Steam as well. So I had done it on my ROG ally originally there.

Didn't get that carryover, unfortunately. Well, the problem was, you know, Jen hates the ROG. And so I knew that this was all going to be a long game that I would need to play in the bed. So I was like, okay, you know what? I'll run it back on. If they have switch codes,

I'll run it back on Switch and I did. Turns out, you know, when you're skipping all the tutorial dialogue with it you've already done, it goes really quick to get caught up again. I like that. Roger, how far are you into it? And what did you play on? 13 hours, and I played it exclusively on the Switch too.

I like that. Well, I want to hear about your top level thoughts in just a moment because, of course, Dragon Quest 7 coming from Square Enix is releasing on Switch 1 and 2, PlayStation Xbox, and Steam, releasing on February 5th, so later this week,

there's a demo out right now. play the demo and then your save transfers over to when you start to pick it up. So you can play a little bit right now for free and then jump in. Of course, it is selling for $60. So just a nice standard price of 60. There are a bunch of additions though. A bunch of additions. $250 physical one?

A bunch of addition. Probably less than WW. This is the third entry into the Dragon Quest 7 line now. We've had a couple. Dragon Quest 7 fragments of the forgotten path. released in 2001 in the U.S. on PlayStation, then Dragon Quest 7, fragments of the forgotten past on 3DS in 2016. And now you're getting a full reimagining, a remake, you would call it,

for Dragon Quest 7 right now. The Open Critic is sitting at 84. The Metacritic is sitting at 82 as of 11 a.m. February 2nd. Let's talk about scores and thoughts. Roger, give me your top level thoughts and your score on the kind of funny scale. Yeah, again, 13 hours into Dragon Quest 7 reimagined on the Switch 2, and I enjoyed my time. I think I'm going to continue to slowly play this game throughout the rest of the few months, I would say. I wouldn't give it the rest of the year.

I would say you have maybe three to four more play sessions out of me before I either continue it or drop it, because I'm in this kind of precarious situation. 13 hours in, I feel like I literally have just gotten past the prologue. Like that is quite literally what it feels. There are some very fundamental things, because I did a preview of this a few months ago. I played a beginning of the game, and I played something later on in the game. And there's some pretty like mainline important things, like in terms of features that I have not even gotten to. In terms of the vocations and changing the vocations.

So the fact that I haven't even gotten there yet, I'm really itching for some change and some, for some variety in this. Because right now I'm having a good time, but I'm not having a great. great time. There's not much here in terms of the story that is really grabbing me. The combat is just kind of auto-battler at this point where they're not really putting something into this where it makes me feel like, oh man, I got to get in there and really make sure that I'm preserving mana, changing out my movesets. It is just, hey, set it and forget it and just go on with it. I think it's fun. It feels like a Saturday morning cartoon, and that's the best way that I can describe it there in terms of the story and the pacing. So I'm having a good time, not a great one. So

tentatively, I would give it a seven out of ten right now. But again, bearing in mind, this is 13 hours in, I'm sure the game, I know the game, changes a lot and evolves over time. But I'm enjoying my time, especially on the Switch 2. It looks gorgeous, and I'm excited to talk more about that. Let's talk a little more about it right after Greg. Greg, you said 35 hours. Just shy.

Put a lot of time into this one. But of course, it's a big game. They did reduce some of the time. They made a little bit faster the pacing. I read up about the remake of this one. So, you know, how you feel in 35 hours in, and give me a score? Yeah, for context, IGN clock did I think in their review of what between 40 and 50 hours, which lines up with PR where I asked them, hey, how long is this going to be?

And I believe they said between 50 and 55 is what they were projecting. And you never know with Devmath. Everything Roger just said is incredibly accurate. And to Roger, I would say, stop playing. Because it will not evolve beyond what it is right now. And the quicker you understand that, the more you can enjoy this game. I, on the kind of funny scale, I'm giving it a 6.5 and saying it's okay. However, I went back and forth for a while.

Is it a 7? Is it a 6.5? Is it a 7? It is a 6.5. And as I will go on at length in this review, I think it's an okay that's really enjoyable. I closed my computer. And I brought in all sorts of sacred texts. I got the EGM reviews from December 2001. But most importantly, I am new to Dragon Quest. I've never actually played a Dragon Quest before.

which I think is very important for context for the review I'll give you, especially as I compare and contrast this game to other ones, right? And so as I waded into this and really started to delve into it, one of the questions I wanted to go ask, but I couldn't show my hand was like, what is Dragon Quest to the fan? Like, a Dragon Quest fan, what do you want out of it? Because once I got going with this 20 hours in or whatever,

you're like, okay, this is what the game is, do people want more than that? Over on the subreddit for Dragon Quest, someone had posted Dragon Quest Newby looking for tips slash guidance you know basically exactly I'm starting for the first time what do I need to know

should I go back to the order matter of course no of the orders matter you don't have to worry about it but I thought this was a very interesting way to frame what this game is Fire Blend on subreddit Rodin said Dragon Quest is the anti-mid-maxing

anti-asked too many questions JRP you just sit down with a nice cup of tea play the game hum to the music and have a chill time don't think it's hard don't think too hard about it and play whatever you like because now I'm talking about

which version to play. And I thought that summed so much of it up in perfect where this is a 6.5 out of 10. This is a review so far because I have not rolled credits on it. I will not roll credits on this. I've enjoyed my time with it.

It has been an incredibly cozy experience to play and we'll go through all the reasons why and why not. But I am now sitting here going after looking at people talking about this like shit, what I really want is Dragon Quest 11. Everybody's like Dragon Quest 11 is the one

if you're looking for this and it's a masterpiece in 2017 came out, got amazing scores, can go between the normal thing to 2D. It's like, oh, okay, like that sounds like that one's actually pushing you. Him Rogers talks about that one a lot. That sounds like the one that's pushing you to think critically and on how you play. Whereas Dragon Quest 7 reimagined is a Saturday morning cartoon.

It is an auto-battler, which I never do. Obviously, so many of our JRPs, you can say, fight for me and they go do it, but I would never do that in 90% of the JRPs. I guess 98% of the JRPGs I play. This one, when I was eight hours in, maybe even five, where I was like, man, I am not having to think in any of these battles. So I'm really just wasting time running the same moves. You do it for me. You play. You know, I mean, you go into the tactics menu and I said show no mercy on every character because man is so plentiful. You can pick it up. Run your things. Do whatever. and I've done that through 99% of the game.

There's been maybe two boss battles that they failed at, then I came in and did myself, and then maybe one or two other ones where I saw it starting to go south and I paused and I went in and cast heels, then put them back on auto and they did it all themselves. And this isn't a knock to it. Like I think that works for what this experience is.

Boys, sounds like some positives and some negatives. Begging, telling you just to put it down. I'm 10 hours in a lot. as well. I've been playing on my PC and my rock ally actually played probably about seven hours on the rock ally. I really enjoyed my time with it and it is cozy.

The music is fantastic. I came back to work one day and I told Tim I said man, this team has got some killer music. I don't know who's doing this but man, every time I turn it on I love it. It's got a one piece vibe to it. There's a whimsy. There's a boat. There's something calling out an adventure

right. This young boy his father was a fisherman and he's said, no, I want to go out and adventure with my friends. And then all of a sudden you start discovering unknown islands out there. We're the only island out there. And I liked the story. I liked the little carrot on the stick. And I was viving with that.

It's just one of those. I don't have much time for that as I move on to other things. But I enjoyed the time, the characters, the monsters. I come from no Dragon Quest, but I had Dragon Quest warriors or Dragon Quest Pocket. Dragon Warrior. Dragon Warrior. So this was the Pokemon of Dragon Quest. of Dragon Quest universe

and that's what I had on my Game Boy so all of these monsters are pretty like really well known to me right I can see them and go oh my god what the heck is going out of here so I've kind of dabbled in this universe before yeah that's what I mean there's a lot of to unpack even there right where I guess technically

I'm lying my first Dragon Quest game was Dragon Quest builders played the shit out of that Avita really liked it but it wasn't a Dragon Quest game right so I'm the same way of recognizing a slime or recognizing the sound or the orchestral or whatever And then yeah, what you call out there, of course, if you are unaware, the series in America used to be called Dragon Warrior. That was something I totally forgot about slash probably didn't know.

Because even to the point of like how blind my spot is on Dragon Quest, we were doing the preview where I was talking about my demo or whatever. It came up in a conversation when Tim was still here. And I said something to the effect of just like, yeah, you know, but I don't even like this art style. The puppets for them. I don't even like that. And it's not like, is this in a negative knock? You know, it's just a preference. But I was like coming off Octopath,

I'd way prefer if they did the 2D HD Sprite kind of thing, blah. And it wasn't until like, I was like, oh man, I'm deep enough in this that I want to go back and read the EGM reviews. And I went back and I was like, this was a PlayStation game or a PlayStation game. I was like, this is on PS-1.

I was thinking I was playing an S-N-E-S whatever. Tim's like, yeah, it didn't make any sense when you were talking about Sprite. You wanted a DMAC. It's all the fucking game looked like, even though I do think the OG art style, to me personally looks better. But of course, go play that thing,

Greg. It's still out there. Yeah, of course. Yeah, I really vibe with the art style. I like the cheby heads of all the characters. I love that. I like the diorama vibe of it all. Like it is jumping off the screen at me.

It's got great colors, great visuals, and I enjoyed everything. I am playing on easy because I was just here for the story from my little dabble. So like I've never encountered anything crazy, but I'm just there to see what's going on. Yeah, even on normal. Even on normal. Yeah, normal is really easy. Now to their credit, they do have a much of difficulty options you can go in and tweak and fine tune and give yourself more XP, less XP, whatever. I didn't do that because I like you.

a review on just the normal base. Here's what I think a lot of people are going to jump into. Yeah, I'm one of those people that believes that like, sure, you have all the settings to make it harder. It's like, I'm not an incredible gamer. So if like the normal is extraordinarily easy, I do think that, yeah, there needed to be a little bit more of, I don't know what that is. Maybe it is figuring out, you know, the vocation system a little bit earlier. But like, it just, it becomes brain dead at a certain moment. Even without the auto battler, right? Because it's just the reason I, the reason I turn on the auto battler is because I was just doing the same thing. every single time. So it's like, let me just let the

I think that's such an important thing of calling because I did see earlier in the chat and we said it like, why play it at all then, right? If you're auto battling, which I don't never agree with because there's so many different games and so many different things. For me personally, once I've assembled the team and I've built the team and they have the moves that I want them to have, like, okay, cool, I'm Phil Jackson now. You're the fucking Bulls. Go out there

and do it. You know what I mean? But anyways, in this example, right, it is that idea of like, I'm just hitting the same thing. It was so rare even to see the thumbs up or the, you know, the little lines signifying it wasn't a good move to use. So it's Like, all right, you go do it. Like, what is, what is the added thing of me doing?

It didn't, and it's like, there's going to be so many comparisons I use here to talk about this, where I want to start with this conversation to jump off to do a myriad of different directions. When I was on the show last week, we were talking about Witcher 3, what about Zelda, what about this? I kept saying, I'm in the mood for a grand adventure. And I said, I'll be happy to, I can't wait to talk about this next week. Because even then, somebody in the chat was like, Greg, Dragon Quest 7 comes out. This is so not a grand adventure.

this is such a quaint and small adventure. Like this game, this game, and I know, of course, that I'm talking about a reimagining of a game that's 25 years old. So they can't stray from that.

But you bump up against the wall so early of what this game is and the box this game is in that again is quaint and is cozy and you kind of get the feel for it right away. But like, it's not grand. And back to this point of like, I'm 35 hours in.

I am not that far from the, end. The whole point, if you haven't known, of course, is that you are this little guy in green. I hate this fucking outfit for him. I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. You're this dude in green. You're a fisherman's son. You and your friend run into the shrine of mysteries. You find out that you knew you're on this island. No one else exists in the world according to everybody on this island, right? You eventually, through a dungeon, open up this thing. You go back in time. This is all like the original thing to a new island that is not your island, right? When you figure that all out and you come back,

that island is now in your world next to your island. And so basically the idea here throughout the game is, you go off in these quests, you get pieces of tablets, you come and put them back together when you assemble a tablet, you go into a new world, you go into the past and help them with whatever their mission was, then you come back and go back to that world

to get another piece of puzzle and yadda, yeah, yeah, so on and forth. The game is so rinse and repeat in terms of objectives. The game is so rinse and repeat in terms of NPCs. Back to I want a grand adventure. like I you you meet the first couple worlds of people and then it's their NPC cycled through and it gets confusing yeah there's one moment where

maybe yeah maybe six hours seven hours in the game where you have this big story with this one NPC and you're talking to this NPC and then the next world you go to which is supposed to be in the future or whatever it they reuse that same NPC with this character that you're talking to and it confused the fuck I because like I understand it works for PS1 you have to reuse the thing but it's like when you're talking about a re-emorting Like, yeah, totally right, great. Like, you bump up against those walls when it comes to that,

when it comes to the time travel elements of it, where it's like, man, you guys should have stretched this out a little bit more. You needed to kind of modernize it. And so back to modernization, right, of picking up these moves and doing all these different attacks or whatever, like to come off of Octopath Traveler's era, which you know I'm going to bring out and beat like a dead horse throughout this entire thing, though, right?

Octopath always felt so much fun to play, to make those moments and moment decisions, to see the battle start going south or switch somebody this way or use the boost. And I'd even toss in Expedition 33, which of course wasn't my jam for a couple different reasons, but alongside it, C of Stars. Let's have an active thing where I go and do the attack, but in the middle of it would have to hit a different button to Perry or just enhance my attack and get a few more. Like there's just none of that here back to where it's like, okay, cool. Choosing the move isn't fun.

And I'm going to go through and do this. This then I think works against the one of the big selling points, what they previewed for you, even going back and reading the EGM reviews where they're talking about this vocation system. where you can be a priest or you can be a major, you can be this, and then later on you can be two of them, and you can trade them out at will, and basically what it is is it's XP on top of your XP, right? So there's overall character XP that's leveling up how, you know, much your basic attack does, how much health you have.

Then there's this vocation you have that has its own individual thing, and as they go up in stars, you unlock new moves to then use in battle. So in some ways, if this is all Greek, which I can't imagine this to you, but imagine persona, right? We have different personas, you're leveling, you're unlocking new things. that sounds great. But when we're in this battle system where it just doesn't matter,

like, okay, cool. Like, when they opened it up, like, you can change your vocation. Do you want to? Like, fuck, no. Like, I'm unstoppable with this kid. We're killing it right now. Why would I throw a wrench in the works?

And it wasn't as though like, you can now equip another one. It's like, oh, okay, then do that. Which at what point is even easier. How deep is that when you can change it? I mean, when you can, I mean, there's lots of different vocations. No, when you can moonlight.

Is that like 20 hours in, 30 hours in? Oh, man. Because, like, I am at the point right now. I would say, like, yeah, 22, 23, where you can go. And this is another thing, too, I think, where I saw somebody else ask is that, you know, about the difficulty or it's not, no, it's, it's overall bumping into the walls of the world and what it is. And I think, you know, back to Octopath. Remember, I talked about Octopath where I was like, damn, I didn't die in an Octopath battle until 20 hours in.

And then I felt like we finally had that difficulty curve. So I was waiting for it here where I was like, we're going to get it. And like I just said, like, I'm on my final slab. And I know, thank you, game facts, going and reading a 2001 game facts walk through. I'm like, I see how far I am from the end. So there's still more, but even at this point, like, no. It's like, it's not a no for me like this game is trash.

It's just like, I want more. And that's what I'm hoping I'll get out of 11. Or, you know, I'm playing this and I read downloaded live alive, where I was like, yeah, okay, I want that. Or it's like, I'm looking for that experience still in that chase. And even when I was playing this and Barrett was asking me about it. I was like, you know what it? makes me do. It just makes me so upset that I stopped CSR so many, two years ago, because it was

another review and I knew you had that, you know what I mean? Like, it's that idea where it's like, this game has something to it. I understand, especially going back and reading the reviews, right, where we're talking about like, this was revolutionary, right? This is John R. If you can look past Dragon Warrior 7's vintage outer shell, you'll find one of the deepest most satisfying RPGs, right? In order to appreciate Dragon Warrior 7, you simply must look past the squatty characters in chunky dungeons. Like it's like infinitely complex job systems. And it's like none of that is resonating in this version.

And going and reading the IGN review, the GameSpot review from people who have way more experience with the source material, right? They're talking about, man, they really sanded off the edges to make this one where anybody could get into it. But then it kind of loses you, these people who, because of what, IGNNN and GameSpot both gave it sevens. We're both like, it loses the pull of it on that level of it.

And so I think it's a compliment, to it, that coming into it, I was like, damn, this is, there's something close to this. I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go back and play this 2007, or 17 game, Dragon Quest 11, you know what I mean? Yeah, no, it's, I, I'm not a JRP historian. I have just gotten into

the genre of turn-based JRPs or just RPGs that are turn-based in general in the last few years, but like, to me, it kind of feels like, now I've played so many interesting modern turn-based games, right? I've played like a dragon, which I think is a really great turn-based game,

It's super fun metaphor, of course, shout out. That whole turn-based system is awesome. Of course, Expedition, right? Which not J.R.G., but turn-based. So now I'm in this weird place where I see this game, and I'm like, kind of damned if you, damned if you don't, right? Where it's like, I'm sure that original fan base, they wanted the exact gameplay. They want that, but it's like, fuck, man, comparatively to the other things around it,

it's like, man, we need to do something a little bit different, especially after metaphor, man, which is metaphor is so fucking good, and the way that they deal with, you know, when a character misses, and then they are kind of staggered, and now you're, have something to do which is some type of interactivity of like I need to be paying attention because again that game also has an auto battler never did it.

Not even once. I didn't even think about it but the fact that immediately persona has it too. Exactly right. Yeah so it's that is my issue here where it's like again like I understand that they have the original

but reimagines in the title and it just does not feel reimagined. And that's another big thing. Let's talk about how small the experience feels. I am a back to the future nut as you know you can go listen to our commentary.

for Back to the Future right now on Patreon, right? In-review episode is up? Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. Cool. I love that. And so I, like, chrono-trigger has always been such a miss for me. Like, I've tried it multiple times,

and I just can't get it to click and stick, and I want it to, right? Because you fucking talk to me about Aquarina of Time, right? Owee, you know what I mean? Going from the High Rule you've been spending your time into to fucking future Hyrule, and there's a fucking Zelda mummies everywhere. I'm like, this is fucking insane.

Spoilers. This game, when it introduced, like, oh, man, you're not alone. You're going to go back. And then when they get back, the island appeared. I was like, oh shit, I can't wait to see how different it is. It is so embarrassingly same.

You go there and it's like, it's confusing almost. Exactly. I was so confusing. I was like, how much time has passed? Like 10 years and they're talking about every time you get there, it's the same shit. I'm like, oh, here's this callback to the thing you just did, but we only know about the one person.

There was five other people with them or four other people with them, but we can't remember. They're lost at time. And it's like, the world, Mike, isn't the same. Or I'm sorry, it hasn't changed. So it would be akin to someone coming. in here and helps us solve all these issues, then they jump ahead of 200 years, and we're all gone. There's new people here, but everything looks exactly the same.

The desk is here. Nothing is dilapidated. Nothing is broken down. No, there's, like, oh yeah, like even the fucking bridge has the same little flags on it. There's also a dude from the sounds of it. There's a dude who looks like Kevin who's here, but it isn't Kevin. Also, really quick. Once the last time you've gone back to Chrono Trigger.

Did I say it wrong? Yeah, I'm just giving you show. Chrono. Yeah, but once the last time, genuine question. Once the last time? When I had, I mean, it would have been this year. year on Steam Deck? No, I'm, what,

20, 25 on Steam Deck? Oh, shit, okay. Rod, rock. Why? Because when you were talking about earlier looking for a grand adventure and talking about the pitfalls of this,

like I think, I don't know how deep into it you'd need to go, but like I would give like more of a, I don't know how, how long you played Chrono Trigger for. I got, so first off, I just want to say to every Krano and me in the chat or whatever, fuck off.

Come talk for a living and not, like, totally not my point. I woke in this morning not expecting to talk about Crano Trigger, all right? So fuck y'all. Fuck you to death. No, it's also very interesting, and I think part of this conversation is last year with the games cast, I'm done with turn-based RPGs. And then Octopath reawakening in that and finding that and me being like, man, maybe it is

that I'm really looking for these retro-esque JRPs or literally retro. So I do need to, I think, now go back to Chroniciger again, but then we just fall into the same exact problem we always have of. Cool. I'm so excited that tonight I can play Redacted. tonight I can play it because tomorrow Redacted number three comes in and that's what I got to start to do that and I have a very tight embargo on it

so it's like when am I going to fit another gigantic I will say for your next looking for that like you brought up Sea of Stars to me into conversation and other people in chat we're talking about C of Stars I for you I would prioritize Chrono Trigger over Sea of Stars or anything. Crane Apple Trigger that's funny I'll let you go

on that one that's good that's good okay yeah maybe I'll put that on they must have a version on Switch some classic Chrono? I don't think so no really I genuinely do not. I look this up. You know what? We'll look it up.

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PlayStation, though. Oh, okay. I don't think it's a spoiler right where I'd start. Well, I mean, it's the game, right? where I've gone back in time and back in that game. Like, you know what I mean? In Corona trigger. Yeah, yeah.

So, I mean, like, people are always trying to figure out how it is. And I remember one, I was like, it didn't work for me. Somebody's like, you got to get to this point. I'm like, I'm past that point. Like, I got up. Again, I'm a different man now. Okay. More educated.

More sexual. Got a lot of. Well, boys, you've given your scores. You've got some energy now. You've talked a lot about the games and what you don't like. I want to hear a couple of things that you do like. I love that. I love that.

I want to talk about the visual quality of this game. I really like it. I dig the art style. I don't think it doesn't read puppet to me as much. I understand that they're going for that, but like it doesn't feel puppetee. I guess the characters themselves. I like what they got going on there.

I like the visual quality, but I think it looks great. So visual quality, excellent. Yes. My problem with the puppet part of it is really just these main characters, your team. I feel like we should have either gone

more towards Team America or more, like we're in the middle of this slider where I'm like, I wish you would have gone another direction, because Kiefer in particular, he's always like, he looks like the Flappy Head Canadian from South Carolina.

Don't call me, buddy guy, pal, you know what I mean? Yeah, for sure. That doesn't work for me. She's, I love her. But it's like,

having been there. Yeah, I know. You're still quite a way of way. I don't know who this woman is. Visual quality, excellent. These guys hit or miss,

I feel, and I really hate my dopey fucking guy. And I hate that I played the fucking demo, right? I swear we're going to go somewhere. I like, I played the demo. That gives you an outfit for Maribel,

that you can actually equip to change So now she's in this orange dress rather than this thing. Rock that all time. And I was like, oh, thank God. There's going to be stores where I buy other outfits for these characters. No, there's a DLC pack that I couldn't buy because the game isn't out yet. That'll eventually change. So on this dopey looking elf that isn't an elf over here is the main guy.

Doesn't matter though. Visual quality, excellent. As you said, Mike, the soundtrack, excellent. I'll tell you, you'd think 35 hours in here in the same four excellent tracks. I'd be annoyed by it. I'm not. It's comforting. I love it.

The one thing we haven't called out that I will, in terms of NPCs, redundant. I'm sick of seeing the same people, do the same shit. The monster design, excellent. Oh. There are so many different monsters here where it's like, ah, I get it. You didn't, the NPCs are all reusable. You're the guy who looks like he got electrocuted and you're bald.

And then you're the guy who's the scientist who had a great story. But now every scientist looks like you, like whatever. But like, you can run it. Every new area has new monsters and they all look awesome. And you'll see variants of that. I was like, this is cool. I like that. Favorite monster?

Bosses. Everybody go around the, Give me your favorite monster because they have some wicked cool, fun monster design. There's like a puppet one that kind of falls apart that I got pretty recently. I like that one. I've always liked the rat bee or the mouse bee, whatever you call. Oh, I fucking hate

looking at those ones. Or the one of the big lips in the tongue. I hate that one. That was disgusting, nasty. Uh-oh. I don't think it's a spoiler. I won't show it. Yeah, I'm going to show it to you. Yeah, I took a screenshot because I love this motherfucker so much. There's a guy, I mean, this is just quest stuff that you do. So this is a bigger

monster, a boss you have to fight eventually, right, but there's a lot of bosses. Don't worry. I'm not really a lot of bosses. But I eventually have to find this thing, and it's been known for eating boss or whatever. And so when I finally got that down there to channel, his name,

Moss Faratu. Oh, like that's fucking, that's fun. I like that a lot. I like that. And then, of course, my normal run-of-the-mill monsters, my favorite,

the wet kissers. Oh, there's not. I hate these ones. I love them. I haven't come, I haven't figured out what the joke is yet. But there's something in there of like, oh, okay.

What Andy says when Mike, Mike and Roger show up. You know what? Wet kissers. He's calling you wet kiss. Oh, okay. Wow. Look at them with their big lips. I hate it.

It's disgusting. It's so fucking, and they lick you too. Yeah. And they lick you and they lick you and they stun you. Hot. I talk about how ignorant I was of this franchise and not knowing Dragon Warriors.

You didn't know what the slime was. Yeah, I didn't know the slime. But I haven't, also I should have said this. I have never played a Dragon Quest game before. So this is my first one as well. Did not know Akira Toriyama was the designer behind all this. So that,

that really shocked me when I opened this up and I was like, was this the, oh fuck it is. Holy shit. And I did the whole research and that, that is really cool seeing his legacy live on through these games and feel I met a few characters, I met one character recently. I'm like, oh shit, you could be straight out of Dragon Ball, like straight up like an NPC. I'm like, oh wow, you could totally be out of that. That's why for, to bring it back to that point of like the art style and the direction

they went with it. I do like it for them adapting Toriyama's stuff into 3D because it reminds me of sandland. and playing Sandlin, like, that game. And seeing that in kind of a 3D format, I really like. We were excited for Sam, man. Yeah. It was good combat.

It ran like shit on PC, though. Played a good two hours. It was great. Yeah, no, that, the game, I think the game looks great. For me, the arts out works. I understand Kiefer does look, Team America. I've totally got that. But it makes me laugh, honestly.

It kind of brings... Oh, he's one of my favorite dudes in the game. And it also brings this energy of like, okay, like, they're different than the NPCs, but it feels like kind of bigger, especially since they are scanned puppets or whatever. I want to specifically shout out the Switch 2. I will stand by this.

I think this is probably one of the best ports the Switch 2 has ever seen. It's so high quality. When you put it up on the TV, when you play it on handheld, it does not do like the, or at least it's not to my eyes doing the auto changing of the resolutions.

It's not dynamic. It feels very set and it feels super high quality to the point where I'm playing this on the TV. I'm like, this could be the PS5 version. I could not have told you. And I'm very sensitive to that stuff. I'm playing a redacted video game right now, which we'll talk about in a few weeks that, you know,

is really rough when you go to handheld and all that stuff and you feel it. You told me you look good. It did. And then I'm playing on a handheld right now. And I'm like, I'm doing a lot of things and it's moving a lot of things. This one, even in the heat of the battle when you're running around, it fucking looks gorgeous.

What Square Unix is doing with this and also the little bit that I played of Final Fantasy when they had the preview events of Final Fantasy 7. That looked awesome too. So they're doing some really good stuff. And this is unreal engine, too. So shout out. Like a lot of people talk about Unreal Engine, I believe it's Unreal Engine 5,

talking about how it can't go to Switch and, you know, it's a bad engine, yada, yada. If you work hard enough and you're able to optimize, you can get that run in real well. Another thing I want to shout out, right? Is, so if you haven't played it before, think of every island, and as you set off on it as a new chapter, right?

These are all very vignetti of like, okay, cool. I think a complaint I would have about this game, especially with a grand adventure, is that the grand part of it. Like, I did not think people reacting appropriately to islands being blinked into their world. Completely. Completely. There was a moment where I was like, can we only see these?

Like, why are we having bigger conversations about what we're doing as a, whatever? And so eventually, like, I would say two thirds through. They're finally like, you know what? A lot of the shit happening has been connected to this guy. Has it? I'm like, has it? I've never heard anyone mention it except you right now. Literally.

But I guess he's the big bag. So it's like that part, the overarching. not that I'm not a fan of it's just like okay this isn't supported the vignettes the chapters you get some really good ones there where I did show up into town I was like holy shit this is what's going on here and I don't know like what is happening oh oh okay like they have they do a good job of giving you entertaining scenarios to go into my problem with it again to get to that 6.5 right because I am putting it over and I do like that is it's not interesting in the way an octopath is of like oh my god like what this is really connecting and hitting and it's because You really don't have much to do. You are, like, this is so by the books, rinse, repeat, you show up. This is going wrong in the town. We're going to go get the McGuffin to get this other McGuffin to set the thing up and then fight the big thing. And then we'll fix the whole deal.

Usually the big thing is somebody you already know that becomes a monster or something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That happens early on for sure. So it's like, okay, I get in the thing. And I think that's where you go back to, it's a Saturday morning cartoon. It's comfort food. You're not going to be caught off guard, at least in my 35 hours with it of what you're doing or why. but then you fall into this thing of,

cool, 35 hours in, I want to play a different dragon quest or a big, grander adventure. I don't need to see this through because I'm not properly motivated to save the world because you really haven't established that this is something

other than there's a bunch of islands. Yeah, I'm waiting for that moment for it all to connect and have like, okay, well, this is the grander thing because right now I'm having a few times already because like I would say every scenario is maybe about two and a half hours, two hours, it's pretty short,

at least in the beginning ones. So there were a few of them where I'm playing And I'm like I just want this one to be over I don't like I since you feel the episodic nature of it You're like I'm just I'm just gonna not skip through it But I'm like I just let's just move through this one I'm not invested in this one let's hope the next one is gonna be better

So I think that's like the tug The push and pull with and again back to I like this and I like what I'm doing there And I know that we're criticizing But I think it's so important to be like Why I would recommend that if it sounds interesting Definitely play the demo go get that But now why walk away right

It never evolves on air delivers on any of the concepts it introduces. Again, time you whimey. We go to the present, we go from the present to the past, the past to the present. Nothing changes in the areas. I mean, that sucks. It also sucks of like when I, I don't, I'm not a game designer. I could never design a video game.

I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. To be in the past and then go back to the present and then somebody says something like, oh, I'm going to have to go back to the past and get the code from them or move this thing. Oh, no, I just had to walk out and trigger a cutscene. And now that it's like, dude, like you have this really cool past present thing. Let's do something with that where you don't. That's not what it is. And that's what it comes out to like the reimagined of it all.

It's just, it does not feel reimagined. It does not feel like we're taking this idea and bringing it into the modern era from the ground up, rewriting things, changing it around. It feels very much like, hey, we're going to bring it the original version of this. We're going to cut a lot of the fat. Make sure that you can fast travel everywhere, which is, by the way,

just learned that last night. Would it say it was not a lot of time? No. No. You cast Zoom for the first time. And I was like, what's this button do? Because I thought it was zooming in on the thing because you go to the menu and you press zoom on like the little cities and I was like oh zoom in on the map oh fuck I'm

here already god damn it so which is great helps you out a lot and that was something I was shocked about reading both these reviews and even people who were talking about Dragon Quest 7 talking about that discovery and exploring and it's like man I don't think the game rewards you at all for exploring like I early on was like I'll run point to point

and try to there's no offshoots there's no side quest there's no little thing I'm running over here. It is, and again, this isn't bad, it's just okay that you're going from point A to point B, do the thing, keep going. Numbers go up, I get stronger, team gets better. But even then, like, that's something that I think the game could have done better

about is cutting out some of the fluff when you talk to somebody, right? You talk to somebody, okay, now walk over here and talk to somebody else. That, we could have just triggered multiple thugs. We could have traveled between the thing, and then we could have saved maybe 15 minutes. I get the little cutscene talking to Graham here, and then I walk out and then there's another little cutscene here. It's like, all. Or you have to

walk up here and do the thing and figure out the map, It's like, we could have just conjoined this together and then moved all my life. Because it's like not like you can't go back these places. Of course. You absolutely can. You will find everything. Yeah. We could have just kept them moving.

So back to your point though, Mike, of like, what do we like about this game? Because I don't want to be negative. I want to hear about it. Again, this is everything you probably love about a term-based RPG or a J-RP boiled down into something I think that's way more palatable and easy to get in and out of. That's the big thing. Where me walking away from this, deleting it from my switch too, right? When the wild hair comes back of like, I should finish that.

and I bring it back down, I'm not going to be lost. The game does a great job of every time you go to the menu, telling you what you need to be doing next, especially when I started getting all these islands, like, oh, it's going to get confusing. No, the game does an excellent job of when you are on a question running off,

you can hit B at any point to talk to a party member who's got something to say, and they will do the thing of reminding you or pushing you somewhere, or just giving you great context to the world. I thought that was a great world builder and a great team builder. I think they don't do enough with the relationships here

to make me really go, man, Maribel, it's us. And like, there is a quest later on that you are, that is like better. But even that, it's like, this still, I want, I'm wanting this to hit octopath-wise or persona-wise, and it's not, but I'm willing that a little bit and giving you some guys. Anyways, there's that of talking to them and having it involved. It's getting in and, like, when you go into these places,

this is both a pro and a con, but for somebody who has a kid, gonna put a game down, come back months later or whatever, when you go to the maps, you can just click, through level by level and see like, oh, there's the treasure chest I haven't opened. There is the piece of the tablet I need to go get. It's ridiculous, these tablets that are so important, the number of them, Mike, you walk in and they're just sitting on the floor in a storeroom or whatever. Like, I got to smash a pot to grab it.

It's not hidden. I know as soon as I get to that world that's right there, but again, if I'm just trying to go do this and get the essence of a JRP, without having to spend 150 hours on it, you're getting that, right? Yeah, no. It also has a good explainer. so so far. Every time you boot up the game,

it just, I wish it was a voice read and they can kind of do it like that, but yeah, you can read through exactly where your party members were to great detail. Great detail.

And yeah, as Greg is saying, like I, this is like a Saturday, Sunday morning, you have a cup of coffee, you want to start your day, right, play a little bit of this game, put it down,

move on from it. So yeah, I feel like I got everything so far that I'm looking out of this, but I just don't know if I can, hey, this is the only game that I'm reviewing, the only game I'm playing.

I think this is a better second to third video video game that I'm also kind of juggling. Have in the background, yeah. And I think it's the same thing too to this, it's a very approachable JRP, turn-based RPG ride of like, okay, cool, early on Mike, like, you know, I upgrade my gear

and I go to sell it and it's like, hey, just so you know you may never be able to get this item back. I was like, oh, these boxer shorts are going to be important. Hours later, it's just like none of this matter. Sell, sell, sell, sell, do the whole thing. And I'm not left with choice paralysis. I'm not, I'm flush with money from fighting all these monsters, so I'm able to buy

the next best thing whenever I show up to town to, you know, keep the characters going. Like you, it hits all the checks boxes and endorphins in your head to make you, oh, I'm enjoying this and I'm doing something. I feel the party getting stronger, even if I'm not necessarily connected to them on every different level. And I think there's

again, to that spectrum I'm talking about, it's that fascinating part of like, when I took a break from this to start up the Witcher, when I wanted that grand adventure, eventually my responsibilities brought me back, or I'm like, I got to keep going. I know Roger's not playing. I got to go back. I got to have something to say on this gamescast.

like I'm now worried about going back to the Witcher and being lost. I played two and a half nights of the Witcher. Where did I leave off and what was I doing? It's a curse. But this one is like I have none of those concerns, which is nice to have a, you know, game on that side of this. Yeah, ironically, if I were to kind of like do my whole like JRPG, you know, term-based kind of come up a little bit differently,

I would recommend to pass Roger to pick this one up. Oh man, that was my thing of like when, when, when it was revealed to me, 2001? This is a contemporary thing that I own this EGM and I read this review. And again, it's funny how game criticism, how far we've come of reading these three things

and you read these. Like, I have no idea what this game is based on this. You are like, you're even saying the same thing. I think they're going to say as much of slurs or something. Stop talking about how many hours it is. Why did you say that? Shane John already said that. You wasted some of your words. But it's that idea of like, damn, like, I would have loved to have been back then and jumped in and tried it.

And if it would have done that. And it wouldn't of probably, you know, everybody's getting a journey or whatever. Like, I remember a friend tell me, you got to play Final Fantasy 7. I was like, absolutely. Stupid little finger going around. I don't want to play that crap. That's the thing that was out. I hated the finger.

So anyways, though, no, I would have loved to have done that. And I think, again, it's an interesting thing to be here where it's like, cool. This one isn't one, I feel like I got to go finish. But in 35 hours, I got what I wanted out of it. And I think it's very fascinating. I'm still hungry for more, whether it be Dragon Quest 11, whether it be Kranow, Trano trigger. I like cranial trigger. I like cranial Well, let's bring in a super chat right now from Gigi

who writes in and says, Dragon Quest has always been a warm blanket of JRP's. Grab a hot chocolate, bundle up, and enjoy the story. Guys, as we wrap up this podcast, I want to go back over and just say, hey, is there anything else that's left on the table that you want to bring up one last time? And I would love for you to repeat your score really fast. And if it's changed it all during your conversation, because I think you guys had a really good conversation of the pros and the cons of your gameplay here. Yeah, I just

conversation. I hate it actually. I would give it a 7 out of 10 so far. Again, I'm enjoying my time. It is something that I'm not going to, if I were stop right now by the end of the year, I'd be like, oh, fuck, I did play that game. It doesn't stay in my brain. It is not something that is impactful, which is interesting because I think most JRP, especially turn-based ones that are this long, that are, have the crew. Usually those are the most impactful video games that I play, right? It's like, oh, fuck, this is the crew. I don't feel that at all. But that's not a bad thing, because I'm having a good time. I like the visuals. It plays great on the Switch, too. and it's just a good pick up and play and put down a video game.

So, yeah, I would recommend it to people if that is kind of something that you're interested in or looking for. I have not changed. Dragging Quest 7 is Dragon Quest 6.5, all right? It's an okay game. I think mileage will vary as always does. Try the demo. I'm so glad I did, and then I'm so glad I committed to playing more of this and really getting that out. And I think, you know, for us, it's always that hard thing of being a video game reviewer,

where there was definitely those nights where I was like, ah, all right, this fucking, this story's stale and I'm not enjoying it. I wish I was playing X, Y, or Z, right? Or the new code that just came in, da, da, da, but then there'd be the one of like, okay, cool, and oh, and I like this threat and I like that part of it. And like, again, I think the cozy blankets and the hot chocolates and whatever, both they're talking about from Fire Blend over on the subreddit and what the super chat saying, that hits and makes sense for what this is.

And I think maybe if you were to sit there and enjoy it at your own pace and have it out there and have it when you are in that I am brain dead and just want to play something. this would be a great fit for that, as I often am. Well, let's finish the podcast with an off-topic super chat that did come in from Jerk Face Jake, who says, hey, kind of funny. I usually sit here on set listening all day via Amazon Prime. Just finished the Supergirl teaser in review. Curious, Greg, do you still buy comics, or do you use a digital storefront?

I think I talk about in Supergirl, in review. I am strictly DC Infinite now. I want to say all access, but that was the old show. I have been for a while, you know, but I think it's also important to point out that I am not currently actively reading comics like I was. Once Ben came around and priority shuffled, every free moment outside of being a dad or a husband needs to be playing video games. And so I am very, very down that rabbit hole of doing it.

And so when something comicky does come around, I do jump on it. But, you know, the death of comicsology from what it was was such a heartbreaker. My current, not dream, I have lots of dream, but hope. is that as Ben continues to show interest in comics, I would love to get him on a poll list. And then we actually start buying physical again. Oh. Because as I see how much he loves collecting Pokemon cards and monster trucks and stuff,

like comic collecting and having that collection was always such a big deal for me. I can see him really enjoying that. So I'm, yeah, strictly reading digital still. But I'm to even say I'm reading is falsifying documents. When I need to grab something, I'm grabbing it off of DC Infinite usually. I love that. I don't mind being a month behind. I love that.

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