Kinda Funny Gamescast: Video Game Podcast - E3 Predictions 2017 - Kinda Funny Gamescast Ep. 123

Episode Date: June 9, 2017

Andrea Rene and Danny O'Dwyer join us for our annual E3 predictions show! (Released first to Patreon Supporters on 06.02.17) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices...

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Starting point is 00:00:12 What's up guys? Welcome to the first ever episode 123 of The Kind of Funny Games cast. I'm Tim Geddes joined by one of the coolest dudes in video games. Greg Miller. Banzunks! Oh no. You're just one of the coolest dudes. You're not the coolest dude anymore. Well, because originally it was the two coolest dudes for Colin and Greg.
Starting point is 00:00:30 And now Colin is... The coolest dude in historical YouTube. Yeah, yeah. And joining us together for the first time, all of us, Daniel Dwyer and Andrew Renee. Hello. You had each of you. You... Maintaining your number one most recurring guest role on the category.
Starting point is 00:00:46 Oh, yeah. I got its title. She won't let it go. No, really? I don't know how many it's been. If somebody gets close. God, Tanya Harding right to the leg. I'm back, guys.
Starting point is 00:00:54 Yeah. Is there a leaderboard? Somewhere, I mean, there's a spreadsheet for sure. Am I the most European maybe? On games cast? Probably. There was that snake pass guy. Oh, right.
Starting point is 00:01:07 I was on when he was on. You were. Yes. Oh, my gosh. I think you got it. Yeah, there's a lot going on here. Kind of funny games cast. Each every week, we get together,
Starting point is 00:01:16 talk about video games, all things you love about them. This is my favorite episode of the year, though. The E3 predictions episode. It's very exciting, and it is brought to you by Patreon producer Tom Bach. The homie. Shout to Tom Bach.
Starting point is 00:01:29 You've been super cool. Tom's such a nice dude. He emails me, he knows it's kind of funny lives coming up. He emails me just like, dude, like, I know you're going through hell. Like, you got this, whatever. I appreciate that, man. It's just a little, like, positive reinforcement.
Starting point is 00:01:42 BTW, welcome back to the show, Tim. You weren't here last week. Yeah, for a while, it feels like. Week before even, you were here for that? Games cast, I missed one games cast, I missed two gogs. Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. What were you doing? Editing videos for Kind of FunY Live.
Starting point is 00:01:54 And more so than that, planning, planning the things that are coming out after Kind of Funny Live. To the people. Like E3, for instance. For instance. Exactly. The thing that we got to predict. Also, thank you to the Patreon supporters.
Starting point is 00:02:07 Here, you can see your names. Thank you. A lot of Patreon talk. Because we have the Patreon family here. Hey, what's up? I work on Patreon. Do you work on Patreon? I do work on Patreon.
Starting point is 00:02:15 We're like the Justice League of Patreon. I like it. I'm a big fan of you didn't know. What's Good Games and Noclip on Patreon. What's Up. Fantastic things. You could follow both of them on Patreon. com slash What's Good Games and Patreon.
Starting point is 00:02:25 Patreon. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. Your future proofing. You're future proof. It just keeps the Danny Adwire brand going. I might sell off Noclip. To someone who wants to have video game documentaries.
Starting point is 00:02:37 Edit video game documentaries. Sure. Every day for like 10 days. You did this to yourself. But you love it so much. Yeah. How are you guys doing? Good.
Starting point is 00:02:47 I mean, I think we're all like a little frazzled than pre-E-3. Obviously you guys have, you know, Kind of Funny Life 3 also to worry about who picked that date. Yeah, Tim.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Who picked that date? I think it's a great date. E-3's fucking easy. So, I mean, this is a fun time capsule because it's recording before Kind of Funny Live 3, posting the Friday before Kind of Funny Live 3
Starting point is 00:03:04 for Patreon supporters and then you two regularly. But yeah, it was last night, Jen was like, oh, yeah. I'm like, did you guys pick June 3 because of Kind of Funny Live 3? I'm like, no, we booked June 3rd because the week end before when we wanted it was already booked.
Starting point is 00:03:17 And like, it worked out. It worked out well because the thing is, it's last year we had Memorial Day weekend, which was awesome because it gave people a chance to be here for longer. But we found a lot of people couldn't make it because they had vacations and stuff planned. Family stuff. Yeah, and a lot of family stuff. So we're like, you know what, June 3 works. And like what we do, like, our E3 planning is like Greg has to do a lot of. Yeah, I was going to say, says the guy who doesn't have to do it.
Starting point is 00:03:38 Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, like, planning the live streams and planning the important shit for. 3 3 is easy as hell. We just show up and fucking do stuff. And you're doing all the reaction stuff here. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Pre-imposed shows, watchalongs for every conference here,
Starting point is 00:03:51 Twitch dot TV, such kind of funny games. Yep. And then I'm just going to say it. If you have a Patreon, folks, if it hasn't posted, just don't freak out. I mean, like it was a big surprise. Then Wednesday we're doing the GameSpot live show in the afternoon and stuff. A little schedule on the game spot dragging their heels on it.
Starting point is 00:04:04 This Chastity Girl, you know her from the Game Over Gregory show, dragging her heels on this announcement. She's wonderful, though. She's trying to hoodwink us, I bet. There's some contract, some contract loophole she's trying to get through. It's okay. Just to reiterate, because this is the first time we're talking about our E3 plans proper.
Starting point is 00:04:18 Yeah. We will be streaming all of the conferences pre-show, during the show, and post-show. Not the PC one because PC gaming is down. Yeah. So when I say all the conferences, I mean EA, Bethesda. UB. UB, Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo's presentation. Then we're going to go down to E3.
Starting point is 00:04:35 We're going to be putting out a bunch of reacts videos. YouTube.com slash kind of funny games cast and all that stuff. And then, yeah, the games spot show on. Wednesday. Don't say GameStop. Oh, it's so hard. It's so hard. Don't do it.
Starting point is 00:04:45 You had the opposite problem. Yeah. We've all struggled in one way. Well, I used to have the opposite problem. All right. All right. Let's get right into it. Well, before, lay out the rules for the E3 predictions.
Starting point is 00:04:54 Okay. Because I don't want your bullshit. Yeah, there's rules. Yeah, Danny. The rules are simple. You know, to protect our integrity is the fact that somebody hit me up about this. You're like, hey, wait, how can you do predictions if you went to judges weekend.
Starting point is 00:05:05 You know everything. As always, the rules are, we only predict things we don't know. If we know you don't, you don't say anything. you don't say anything, you don't mention it, you're not going to lose as a prediction. Yeah, obviously. Now more than that, though. We're not Jeremy Dunham. People have a warped perception of what Judges Week is.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Sure. Judges Week is not you go there and they give you all the stuff that they're talking about press conferences. It's the games that aren't necessarily going to be on the stage of the press conference. It's like no first party stuff generally, right? Correct. Yeah. This year I didn't, yeah, there was no PlayStation, no Microsoft, no Nintendo.
Starting point is 00:05:34 I didn't see any of them. It's seeing other publishers, other developers who are there, who understand that their stuff probably will get overshadowed. It wouldn't get as much line line. Well, yeah. And in previous judges years past, like, even if first party brings things, it's not like top secret things that aren't announced. You know, it's stuff that's been announced.
Starting point is 00:05:50 It'd be like if Activision had call of duty hands-on playable at Judges Week. We all know Call of Duty is coming. They've already announced it. So it's not like shocking to anybody. Stuff like that. Judge's week is more about playing games than announcements. Am I correct? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:04 So if you're playing it, it's far enough along that it's probably been announced. It's like a logistical thing to like make sure people have time. I mean, apart from the awards element of it, but that's sort of become, you know, a bit confused now. It's a way to digest it and make sure you have the content and you can talk about ahead of time. And it's those embargoes, right? Like, Far Cry 5 is a great example. I saw Far Cry 5 down there weeks before it was announced.
Starting point is 00:06:23 Then when it was announced, we're all able to talk about it and be able to give it its moment in the spotlight before big old Jack Trenton returns. First prediction. So what we're going to do is we're going to go around the table. We each have five predictions. Topic one is PlayStation. Topic two is Nintendo. Topic three is Xbox and topic four are the third party. groups that are having
Starting point is 00:06:42 having press conferences. So not Capcom and them, but we're talking to use up, it does done yet. To be clear, as always, I'm sure MDog is out there, ready to tabulate the votes here. It is done down to the decimal.
Starting point is 00:06:52 There are half points and little points awarded. So the more detailed your prediction, the better chance you have, at least getting a tenth of a point. And I always had the Tim Geddy's Get Hypes moment brought you by Gatorade. But that, that's just me. For the record, never ever been brought,
Starting point is 00:07:04 Gatorade's never paid you for this. Oh, no, no, no. One day they will. If I just keep saying it, that's how things happen. I don't know if that is. Dejorno pizzas. I don't think that's how that works. Dejorno, man.
Starting point is 00:07:11 It worked. It's not delivery. Greg, yeah, hit us off with that PlayStation goodness. Prediction one. Now, for the record. Better not pick. I've made,
Starting point is 00:07:21 I've made eight here. That way I have, I can feel it in my shorts. I can jump around. Exactly, exactly. I bet you don't from Microsoft. Yeah, I got a couple good ones for them, actually.
Starting point is 00:07:35 The one I'll begin with is this. PlayStation VR. lives. The conference reveals no less than five PlayStation VR games. No less. Five. Okay. That's actually a really good one.
Starting point is 00:07:49 I believe. New games? Yeah. Unannounced games? Yeah. Five, no less than five PlayStation VR games. You're crazy.
Starting point is 00:07:57 I am counting. He's not. I am counting. That's a good one. That's a really good one. I haven't here is my number five. I'm using it here. So stick with me.
Starting point is 00:08:05 I'm not going to use this anymore. I'm going to use one of the other two. You understand how this works? One of the other three. I am counting in this if Battlefield, our Battlefront 2 is like, and we have PlayStation VR mode again. Hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 00:08:15 Are you reading all five of your predictions? No, no, no, no, no. I was going to say that's not the way. Since I had the bonus, I'm throwing out then, I'm putting, it's no longer full prediction, it's a star, and this isn't even a prediction. This is an example now
Starting point is 00:08:27 that will no longer be used as a prediction. M. Dog, it's an example. Do not count it towards a prediction. That something like, such as Star Wars Battlefront 2 has VR mode counts as a VR announcement one of my five. No fewer than five. Games that have come out on previous other VR systems that they count.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Like if there's a place... If it was like on an Oculus or Vi. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that should count. No? You don't think so? You want original games. What do you want?
Starting point is 00:08:54 It's your prediction. It reveals no less than five PlayStation VR games. I think that you can reveal... If you're porting something over, it's still a game. As always, yeah. The PC people are over there, they're beta testing it for us, and then they bring it to console when there's nothing. I'm with you, Danny.
Starting point is 00:09:07 I think it's... I think it's a little sticky, but hey, it's your... I know it is. It's a lot less exciting if it's just... If history says anything, you've been wrong about your PSVR predictions every single time. But if history has taught us anything, one day you'll be right. If you keep making the same prediction, there is a pat upon at a show eventually.
Starting point is 00:09:24 That's not so many of the movie. Exactly. Crash Fianic. No less than five PlayStation VR games announced at the show. So my... And I count ports. My thing with VR is I was thinking that Dreams would be the big VR thing that they push at all. And I do think that in addition to Battlefront, there would be some type of, like,
Starting point is 00:09:42 because Austria they showed the Arkham and, um, yeah, fantasy and like all those things, there'll be a big game like that. Like some, something that's just like a big experience based on a AAA game. But you're crazy though. And like that stuff was to, I don't know, bolster the sort of like, we've got X amount of games for PlayStation VR's launch, right? But I also feel like, like there doesn't seem to be much of a roadmap for the rest of year in terms of PlayStation VR's that they need to be like, this is what's going on.
Starting point is 00:10:07 Except for that paper where you're, You see that thing? No. Oh my god June 6 special delivery. It's first person paper one June 6. You're not playing that until I know I know I'm so excited. I know Wow wow wow throwing them That final fantasy 15 VR thing do you guys know did that ever come out? I don't think it did I don't think it's pretty sure I think everyone was like this is hot garbage And square was like okay yeah Let me know a little bit. There's a plan for that Danny all right your first prediction Mm.
Starting point is 00:10:36 All right. Horizon Zero Dawn DLC. Damn it. Getting in there. I don't even think about that. They have been... How could you not think about that? I don't know because it's like I'm thinking too big picture with Sony, man.
Starting point is 00:10:47 Yeah, they, I mean, when did it come out? February? February. Yeah. Super surprising. They've immediately said that we're going to make DLC because it's so so well and it's awesome. And they've been like entirely tight-lived about it.
Starting point is 00:10:59 It's like nothing's come out. So that, to me, says they're waiting until either. So I don't know. All about that. Can't wait. And it'll be, you know, that game was so much fun. I've gone back multiple times and done like side quests and stuff that I missed out. I wish the new game plus thing was a little bit better fleshed out.
Starting point is 00:11:13 It's kind of like, it's not as bad as Zelda, but it's a bit like, oh, we just load you the last save and do what you want. So I'm hoping that maybe, you know, more interesting backstory into Aloi and stuff like that comes into it. Yeah, it won't be though, right? Like I think, I feel like when they do it, it'll be like, we told her story. So now it is, we found a new encampment. There's this new, a new villain, not a vanilla villain, but there's Ross. Oh yeah, what's he up to How's he doing?
Starting point is 00:11:36 Not much. It was rough taking care of that baby. Let's hear more about that. That would be a fun piece of DLC. Baby Aloy comes back. And that'd be another great VR concept of you put it on. You are Ross and you have to like rock it.
Starting point is 00:11:49 It's like, no. No one wants to take care of baby in VR. One two switch wanted to. One two switch wanted to. Yeah. They did. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:56 Many things. All right. Is that the end of your prediction? Yeah, pretty much. Now here's what I love. Here's what I love, Andrea. That's done. It's over for you.
Starting point is 00:12:05 You can capitalize on this because he left the door too wide open. Because I have this on my predictions. This is number eight, the Horizon Zero Dawn. You put a release date window on it. You put something on it. You say it stars a new character. You can spice up. He's giving you tofu.
Starting point is 00:12:20 I want you to make pad tie. Go. Price is right. No, I appreciate that. But I have another prediction I want to get out before somebody else takes it. And that prediction is. Bloodborne 2. Oh,
Starting point is 00:12:34 damn it. That was on my list. It might not necessarily be number two, but it'll be a follow up to Bloodborn. Okay. Fair. Will it have the name Bloodborn? Yes.
Starting point is 00:12:42 Bloodborne something. Okay. Yes, because that was a very definitive exclusive and the brand new PS4 when it first came out. Like, it was a fantastic exclusive for them to kind of lead their new generation with. And obviously,
Starting point is 00:12:57 fans want more. It was great. Sure. I mean, it was way too hard for me to finish. but for people who love that kind of punishment in a game, I think that this makes sense. Save that.
Starting point is 00:13:09 Okay. That's good. There was that Reddit thread a while back of a game called it was a Phantom Whale or something, which was the, you know, the team from software doing a Blood Born sequel, but maybe not Blood Born exactly. But it's like, you know, more hand-to-hankham bash.
Starting point is 00:13:24 I think it was like Chinese or something, sort of dynasty era thing. Again, could be total nonsense. Yeah. But would they deviate from Bloodbourne right away? Probably not, right? I don't think so if it's on PlayStation. If it's on a different system, I think, that they would, obviously.
Starting point is 00:13:38 But, yeah. Exclusive? Yes. Okay. Yeah. Okay. That's good chat. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:44 My first one. Thanks. We will get an update on Shenmu 3. It won't be much. But that ends with an announcement of Shenmu HD collection. Right. Fall 2017. Disgree.
Starting point is 00:13:59 That's never happening. I'm not so sure about that either. Is that you getting ready to get hype? Yeah. You got to start off with that show. It's been way too long. It's been too many trademark leaks of this HD collection. I don't think Shenmuthuri has much to be said about it,
Starting point is 00:14:12 but I do think that it's worth talking about just to get to the collection. No, I think it's just way too much work to redo those games for such a small audience that would buy them. Sure. Yeah. It's been doing it, though. Recently we got the Bayonetta and Vanquish PC ports. Like, I'm not thinking it's impossible. I feel like that upscale is probably.
Starting point is 00:14:30 easier than, I mean, Shenmu, like, came out on, like, the architecture of the Dreamcast is so weird as well. Like, there was no PC versions of Shenmo, right? It was only Dreamcast? I think so. But again. On Xbox. Oh, was it really? Shenmu 2 was Xbox. Okay. I don't know. I feel like we're going to be waiting forever for this new Shenmo to come out. So, like, maybe they'll announce a new HD release, but then not release it for, like, three years. Halfway through the Shenmu 3 developments. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can buy that. I'm saying this year just as, like, Because of all the trademark stuff that's been going on it. Because this has been this whole year since last E3, there's been a whole bunch of,
Starting point is 00:15:08 Shenmoon news on the morning shows come up a bazillion times. Shen News. New segment. Shen News. New morning shows. All right. All right. What you got?
Starting point is 00:15:19 It's one that, again, is one that gets predicted quite a bit here. Sucker Punch's game is revealed. It's a new IP. There is no release date in the trailer, no gameplay or anything beyond the trailer. You just cover all your bases. Is that with the tactic? This is what happens when you go toe to toe with Colin Moriarty for a decade.
Starting point is 00:15:36 You learn that he's going to always try to get it. He's always going to, and he never did, but I always wanted it. So that's what Sucker Punch, new IP, it's not infamous. Okay, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's time, right? Yeah, I feel like the infamous, it petered out a bit. Second song, like I like second song, but like, you're right.
Starting point is 00:15:52 I think it's time for them to do something exciting. And it was the fact that it was two E3s ago that we had Shuehai Yoshida on the E3 live show, and he was holding over Colin and I said that he'd already played whatever. Soccer Punch is. next working prototype was like, duh. Yeah, the timing definitely feels right. And going off of what Sony's done with their conferences the last two years, where it is just a game,
Starting point is 00:16:09 game game, game, trailer, trailer, trailer, trailer, trailer, trailer, trailer. They really have that roadmap. And a lot of the games, like, there's the Death Stranding and Last of Us that are like obviously way far out. But then there's like a whole bunch of games leading through the calendar years. And I think that this is a good thing
Starting point is 00:16:22 to kind of put out there because we already know from last, as things move up, we need to know more shit that's coming later. So that makes sense. I'm into it. All right. God damn it. Now I want to try some of my more difficult ones.
Starting point is 00:16:36 There's too many softballs here. You got to get the softballs while you can. You got to go to the deep cuts later. That's a good point. Okay, we will have a extended gameplay presentation of the Last of Us part two. Oh, really? It will be like five. Nope.
Starting point is 00:16:56 That's a hard minute. Never going to happen. One to five minutes. No. So here's the thing with that. Sony has not done gameplay demos. Days gone, man. Last year.
Starting point is 00:17:11 They had like 20 minutes of that game. That was a gameplay demo. Okay, you're right. That is true. That is true. But I'm sorry, I'm talking about on stage. Like some dude standing on stage. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:17:21 If you're just talking about video of gameplay. Yes. Okay. No, no, no. Okay. Yeah. Because last year there was no one on stage. No giant Emmy Crab.
Starting point is 00:17:28 We're going to have, yeah, they're just going to play. Show gameplay. No way. Especially with Uncharted Lost Legacy. I don't think that they're going to focus on that. It's not what? Uncharted's not enough of a banger.
Starting point is 00:17:39 At PSX deal is very clear. He said this is a long ways away. Like this is the, his little CP. I think at best you'll get another trailer slash cutscene kind of thing. I like your optimism though. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:50 See? Because there wasn't too long. Maybe if I want it, I'll will it into existence. Druckman, you know, put up the photo of the woman from Westworld in the ping pong ball suit doing her thing over there.
Starting point is 00:18:02 So maybe they introduced that character in a vignette or something. Or maybe in a gameplay. A one to five minute gameplay. Okay. There will be Destiny 2 exclusive PlayStation Strike showcased.
Starting point is 00:18:21 That's strong. Obviously PlayStation has an ongoing relationship with Activision. They have an exclusive content deal with Destation. specifically and with Destiny 2. So, of course, with Destiny 2 coming on September, they got to show something on stage.
Starting point is 00:18:36 I think they're going to show some talk about the PlayStation Exclusive Strike. Okay. What did you think? I haven't talked to you about it since the event. What did you think of Destiny 2? I loved it because I love Destiny and I still play Destiny, but it's Destiny 1.5.
Starting point is 00:18:50 Yeah, really. I mean, we could get into that like a... That's a whole other show. Okay, my pod. I think it looks great. I'm really excited to play it. I'm super excited for Destiny 2, particularly for the stuff that they're doing with clans and with the guided games and things like
Starting point is 00:19:04 that but yeah it's it doesn't feel like a true sequel when it comes i don't want to play with you yes let's okay i don't want to play what i have you i don't like that you guys have a kind of funny clan don't you oh yeah there's like a million of them but it's just like i don't know we'll make it so it's so intimidating to jump in with our audience that's like super into destiny i'm like no andry'll be nice it'll be nice but you all want to pull me through the raids i hate that i want to experience it. I want it all ruin for me. So this one, here we go. We're getting in there. There's fucking layers to this shit.
Starting point is 00:19:33 Oh, right? Okay. If you started with Shenmu, I can't wait too. Dude, I like having fucking fun with this shit. Movers, Capcom, Capcom Infinite, trailer. Whole bunch of character reveals, like, whatever. Miss Marble? We'll expect that shit. Yes. All the
Starting point is 00:19:49 MCU, like, if they're having a movie, they're going to be in this fucking... Why I meant like Kamala Khan? Oh, dot it. Okay, dot it. Um, that sucks. Stop being racist. Feature some Capcom characters. This is the segue into a Capcom bombshell.
Starting point is 00:20:04 So here's the thing. Last year we got Resident Evil 7, and that was like, holy shit, as a surprise. Double May Cry 5 or Resident Evil 2 remake. One of the two, and the Marvel's Capcom trailer is going to be the segue into it. Now the get hype moment, Dino Crisis. I forget I want to title crisis
Starting point is 00:20:31 The get height moments are the ones you don't count Right that's just you playing around The rest of it though So my prediction really boiling it down Of course they're going to have a Marvel versus Camp Con infinite trailer No for sure but that I want to I just like adding Greg likes adding the bonus points to get more points I just like added the bonus points
Starting point is 00:20:47 No that's a good bonus though I want the segue to go in The real prediction is either Devil May Cry 5 or Resident Evil remake 2 We'll be at Sony's conference I like how you do this. Because the things you were asking for are outlandish. But if they happen, they're just like Hale Mary's. They're just amazing.
Starting point is 00:21:02 It's one of those like, yeah. If it actually comes true, people are like, holy shit, Tim called. hashtag Tim was right, blah, blah, blah. And if it doesn't happen, nobody remembers. Nobody, the internet cares. I'm speaking for the people. This is what the people want. This is what the people are predicting.
Starting point is 00:21:14 If Sony was listening to me, they would be like, oh, shit, I should probably get on this. And out of business. I don't know if Resident Evil 2 plays as good in 2017. Well, that's a remake. It's the remake. Yeah. It's like, I mean,
Starting point is 00:21:26 they announced this thing years ago, and I doubt it'll ever come into existence, but if it's going to, it's going to be at this fucking... Oh, did they announce that they were going to do it before? Yeah, they announced remake too a long time ago. Like post GameCube remake or post like...
Starting point is 00:21:38 Yeah. Yonks ago? Four years ago, all right. They announced that they were going to do it. But I think Dublin McRye 5 is the more likely thing because it makes sense with my prediction of Marvel's Capcom Infinite trailer featuring Dante.
Starting point is 00:21:51 Wait, five, wait, there was five. There was a fifth to Devil's a Codem's there. It was a fifth. It was a fifth. game, but it was called DMC. It was a reboot. Right, of course. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:57 Okay. All right. All right. My third one. See, I played a win. Tim playing for his Gatorade fun moments over there. I want to continue. You got to have the opposite ends of the spectrum.
Starting point is 00:22:09 Yeah. Running on or playing on or some version of shown on PS4 Pro is set or listed on the screen at least five times. Okay. Okay. That's a good one. They go to the trailers. They do this thing.
Starting point is 00:22:25 It pops up in little white text. I almost doubt it. Yeah? I almost feel like they'd want to avoid that with what Scorpio's doing. But that's my point is that I think they understand this E3 is going to be dominated by Scorpio. So let's keep it in people's mind that we do have something. We have a PlayStation 4 Pro. There isn't.
Starting point is 00:22:43 We have an answer to. We have an analog to what you're about to hear. I see them doubling down the other way and just being like, we got games. Yeah. Sure. You know, and not even. I know. I know, but like not even worrying about it.
Starting point is 00:22:53 Just more like. So why do they even make confidence? Huh? So why did they even make it? Because there's people that enjoy it, Greg. That's why. I will tell you this about the PlayStation 4 Pro. It runs PlayStation VR quite well.
Starting point is 00:23:04 I used one for the first real time of like getting into the guts of it when we were doing the Friday 13th stream. Definitely downloaded faster, but I was more impressed with how fast the menus navigated. And this goes back to my point with the PlayStation 4 Pro of how badly they bumbled the messaging of this. Because clearly it's aimed at me, PlayStation fanboy. And it should have just been, hey, downloads games faster. Hey, it can do 5G, whatever. Hey, look at how fast the menus go. And I'd be like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:23:28 How fast does it sink trophies? Really fast. Oh, fuck. All right. Cool, that's what I wanted. Oh, it does 4K, whatever. I don't fucking care. What if Scorpio comes out and that's what they say. That it's like, you know, the menus aren't as bollocks as they've been for the past four years.
Starting point is 00:23:39 Sure. I'll be like, man, I never turn it on. I never turn on it. Xbox one. Can you see how fast you can load Hulu on this thing? Daddy. You want me up? Fuck.
Starting point is 00:23:51 This is so competitive. This is more competitive than I was expecting. You're underprepared. I thought this was. I'm woefully underprepared. Okay, okay. We will get gameplay, a gameplay demo, and a release date's window,
Starting point is 00:24:05 not like a date, but like a... Fall. Summer. Early 2018 or blah, blah, blah, of everyone's favorite, David Cage game. Oh, Detroit. Detroit.
Starting point is 00:24:16 Become human. They'll roll that out again. Okay, give me the specifics again? Okay, actually I'm going to add one. We're going to have a date window. Okay. A month, maybe not a specific day, but like Q1, 2018, a game plays ammo.
Starting point is 00:24:29 You know, not somebody playing on stage, but just, you know, they did it last year, right? Wasn't it with the guy and the girl on the edge, or was that Gamescom? They, I can't remember. That was E3, but I, wasn't it just a trailer, though? No, they played it, and I'm going to add something to it.
Starting point is 00:24:44 They're going to reveal two, and this is a bit subjective, famous quotes for the podcast listeners, actors in there as well. Okay, two. Two. Yeah. That's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:24:59 Yeah. And they'll also have children that speak with French accents. No, I'm there won't have that. That's my drop the mic. Yeah. That's your Gatorade moment. Last year, I'm pretty sure. They might have been like a gameplay, quick gameplay thing,
Starting point is 00:25:11 but then it ended with like a trailer of like, it can go a bunch of different ways. Right, yeah, that's true. That's true. I remember that, yeah. Okay. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:25:17 All right. I buy that. Cool. I don't know about the two actors, though. It was too much of a boring guess otherwise. Got it. My problem with the dates is that I just don't, I don't know what. They've been so gun-shy about doing that. Where they really don't say,
Starting point is 00:25:29 especially with this. Yeah, well, especially with that. Exactly. That's the whole thing with, you know, Spider-Man,
Starting point is 00:25:34 God of War, Detroit. Like, when are those games coming? We don't even really have hints, right? Like, it was John Garvin said something
Starting point is 00:25:40 about days gone. Then he was like, but it could all, and it's like, wait, well, what is it? What is it? What are you thinking?
Starting point is 00:25:44 I think if Sony has learned anything from the last couple of things is that they shouldn't put release days until it's ready. But, I also don't think that it really matters in the grand scheme of things. People being upset about delays and stuff,
Starting point is 00:25:55 I don't think actually affects the bottom line at all. Sure. So I think you can also really easily go the other way with it too, where it's like, okay, great. Another Detroit demo, like, when does this game coming? I'm sick of hearing about it. Give me some information.
Starting point is 00:26:06 Yeah. Andrew. I'm torn between which one to go with next. But I think I'm going to go with gameplay, release window. So Spider-Man. Oh. Okay.
Starting point is 00:26:25 I don't think we'll get a hard date. Yeah. I think we'll get a window, but we'll definitely see extended gameplay. We saw like a tiny little snippet when they announced. I think we'll get something that's more than five minutes in length. Whoa. Wow.
Starting point is 00:26:39 I think awesome. I'm with you up until the five minutes thing. Greg Miller has put in my mind that this game is so far out. Yeah. That like he's kind of convinced me of that. But over time, fuck that. I believe Spider-Man's going to be here. I think five minutes is a bit long.
Starting point is 00:26:51 though, especially when you're looking at all the games that they have at their conference. But it's a big Sony thing. That's huge. I mean, like, it's a gigantic license for them. Right? Spider-Man sells, even when they are like the shitty games, the Activision is trying to sweep under the rug. They sell lots of copies.
Starting point is 00:27:09 And every time I've ever done a Spider-Man video at any conference, whether it be Comic-Con or Pax, or E-3, is always my most viewed video. When did we post gameplay on GameSpot of Spider-Man stuff? It was always just like, whoop for like, oh, sure, it's okay. I mean, yeah. IG has been doing the Rodee3, which is them talking about games. In the Spider-Man video, I want to say it was close to a million already. And it's just, it was like immediately.
Starting point is 00:27:32 I mean, there's definitely hype. Movie coming out as well. Yeah. That's soon, right? The movies. July 7th? Yeah. Here's my, here's what I'll tell you.
Starting point is 00:27:40 Because I'm not making any Spider-Man predictions. I don't know anything. I have no hard facts. I've heard enough scuttle butt. Wave form. I'm picking up the Wi-Fi's. The murmurs around. on the industry that I'm not saying I'm not ready to back down on the fact that this
Starting point is 00:27:54 isn't a that this is not coming this year but I've heard enough scuttlebut where I'm like all right well we're gonna find out what if I'm right or wrong on this one because yeah at E3 what I you know it's just seem like cool you're not showing much because you don't have much you don't even have a fucking title like clearly this is this is awesome and this is coming and great but it seemed last year it seems like that and so I thought for sure but the scuttle bit I've heard is people are actually like I don't know I'm like fuck really like I I can't in my wildest dreams believe it's this year.
Starting point is 00:28:22 I stand by that prediction from forever again. I agree with you. I really don't think it's coming out this year, but I think we'll see a lengthy look at it this year. I hope so. I'm out. I desperately want that game. I don't want to move anyone's prediction here,
Starting point is 00:28:33 but the Avengers game. Do you think that we see that at anything at all, even a other teaser? Does somebody have a prediction about this that we should pull off on? I don't have it. I don't have a prediction about it either because I don't think we're going to see it this year. Yeah, me neither. I'm interested if they mention it, though.
Starting point is 00:28:48 if they mentioned building the Marvel games universe. I don't know where they would do that though. I've made this prediction before on just prediction. I still think it could easily be Xbox. I think that that is something we might see at D23 later this summer. Oh, yeah. I don't think that we're going to see it at 83 because it's not ready yet. D23 is back this year.
Starting point is 00:29:07 They've already come forward and said that they're having a games specific presentation. Yeah, that makes sense. If you're going to show, you know, a Marvel property anywhere, That would be a fantastic place to show it. Good call. Right. I just feel like with Spider-Man coming to PlayStation 4 or exclusively or whatever, I feel like you sit there and you're like, well, what could Xbox possibly do with this conference? I think them coming out and being like, hey, we've had a great partnership with Crystal Dynamics in the past with the two Tomb Raider games.
Starting point is 00:29:34 Now we're excited to announce that this Avengers game is. And that would be the one where it's like, oh, fuck shit. Yeah. All right. My next one. Death Stranding will be there yet again. Help! In what form?
Starting point is 00:29:46 celebrity actress Emma Stone officially, you know. Fuck you. There's been so many rumors of it. Was that on your list? Yes. Well, you know, it got disproven. Did it?
Starting point is 00:29:57 The guy who made the art did come out and it was like, they had a whole thing about it where it's like that but I still think. Fuck the art. There's been so many other things. It was just like random, like her walking out of the studio that they're working on stuff and things like that.
Starting point is 00:30:10 That one stinks because that was I thought my fucking slam dunk. I'm going to look awesome when this happened. You got to do the slam dunk first. Well, I mean, I did. I got too many slam dunks. This is going to be the fucking year of dreams three. Get Hikes, man.
Starting point is 00:30:21 Shet moon, and fucking all this shit, it's going to be great. What you got, Greg? This is going to be a not a complicated one, but I have a Gatorade get hype movie or whatever. Hell of it. Let's go. Grand Turismo Sport gets a release date. It's this fall.
Starting point is 00:30:36 Gatorade get hype. They ain't fucking hitting that date, you idiots? I'm not a chase it out. But they're going to come on. We like, here it is. We said summer forever ago. It's actually fall. They walk off.
Starting point is 00:30:46 and then two months later and press release on the blog like, ah, we need more time. The bumpers don't shine enough. Danny. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:30:55 that's a good one. Okay, how long is the presentation going to be, do we think? Like 90 minutes or something? Probably. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:30:59 I mean, they show all the montages of all the stuff that they have. Like, they love just showing montages of like, this is what happened, blah, blah,
Starting point is 00:31:07 but intro montage, all that stuff. They won't show no man's guy once. I mean, it's a solid, solid guess. Yeah. It's also so long.
Starting point is 00:31:16 I don't think that they would. But they always do the, like, they always show all the old games, like the catalog of games. Like, they always go, boom, here's like all these games you remember that have all to come out. Oh, you mean? And like the montage at the beginning or at the end or whatever. At the end, they'll show all the stuff they've announced. The start one is always like, hey.
Starting point is 00:31:31 They didn't have it last year. Because last year they had the orchestra, which was fucking awesome. Oh, really? Do we think the orchestra returns? No. No. Which is really upsetting. It's expensive.
Starting point is 00:31:39 But it was awesome. I, uh, orchestras are cool when you're there. No. Are you fucking kidding me? That was the coolest thing ever. I thought it was awesome too. Get hyped, man. Orchestrous.
Starting point is 00:31:49 Yeah, they're not going to show it once. Okay. I like, sorry. No, are you done? I think it's because Sony, keep going. It's super bitter at that. In a way that it is kind of like fucked up.
Starting point is 00:31:59 So that's why I think. Not because No Man's guy is like terrible, terrible game, although we could talk about that for a while. But I think it's just like the whole like shoe hay throwing Sean Murray under the bus thing, that whole thing. That's kind of way. I think they're just like wiping the hands clear of it a little bit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:18 New cinematic trailer, gameplay, release date, God of War. Yep. How specific release date? Like a date. Like a date. Oh, wow. Yeah. Month day year.
Starting point is 00:32:30 All right, cool. Okay. Is Corey Barlogger come on stage? No, I don't, I think they're going to do. Well, I mean, that was another production of mine, so I'll wait. Fuck it. Do you use your last prediction now. We'll give it to you.
Starting point is 00:32:41 Well, no, I might change my mind about what my last one's going to be. But, um. I think, I mean, this is a flagship first-party title for them. So, like, and as of right now, we don't really have, like, a solid date for something in the fall for PlayStation. So I think, you know, we'll see a date. We'll see gameplay. And we'll get a new set of an extra. So the get-hyped prediction.
Starting point is 00:33:04 What is the God Award date? Month. Obviously, we're not going to choose that day. I mean, like, I would love something in November. That might be too soon. So it could be, like, February. I think that you're right. So yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:17 I'm not going to pick the exact date. Yeah, that's, for the bonus points, no. February 21st. Nailed it. That's the problem I have
Starting point is 00:33:25 is like trying to figure out which one of these Sony exclusives will be the first to come out of the gate. Right. Where is it Detroit? Is it God of War? Yeah,
Starting point is 00:33:32 it needs to be something like a god of war, right? Yeah, yeah. Like, Quantic Dreaming selling consoles. Sadly. Yeah. I mean, heavy rain.
Starting point is 00:33:40 Heavy rain. That's the thing. It's like, if, if we're probably not going to get a big Sony exclusive in October or November just going off the last couple of couple of years. But even that I imagine more like a September game.
Starting point is 00:33:53 Okay. If anything, right? Then if we did get Detroit this year, which simultaneously feels super likely and super unlikely like who the fuck knows. Yeah. Like that game could be August and it'd be like, oh, okay, or it could be next August. You know, no one would know the difference. What's your last one? You didn't go yet. Oh, oh shit, you're right. All right. There we go. They had so much success last year with Crash Bandicoot. There's been so much hype about all of this.
Starting point is 00:34:18 They're going to show crash in some form because the game comes out two weeks, three weeks after E3. So yeah, my birthday. They need to remind people that this happening, whatever, but they've already shown so much. I thought they were going to save Crash Warped for E3 because that would have totally made sense, but they didn't. They announced that shit last week. So I'm like, there has to be something more here. Now, I don't think that this is a safe prediction because, is they'd want to see how the game sells first
Starting point is 00:34:46 in order to before like going forward with something crazy like this. However, maybe the pre-order numbers are just so astronomical that they're like, the bandicoot, man, we need to do something about this. So we get the crash trailer, Tom Motherly's Day, whatever, it'll be there soon. And it ends with one of the following.
Starting point is 00:35:03 An announcement of the Spiro trilogy remastered. Or, Tim is, sorry, Grant. Crash Team Racing remastered. remastered. Or, and this is when I'm getting fucking crazy here, PlayStation All-Stars, Carts, featuring Crash and Spiro. Get hype, son.
Starting point is 00:35:25 There's not a chance in hell. Get Hyatt, son. Of PlayStation All-Stars cart. They're like, oh man, Mario Kart. We got to fucking do this. They did this. It was called Little Big Carting. It sucks.
Starting point is 00:35:37 That show. That song. It sucks. But it was no crash team racing. I'll give you that. I agree with us. You're like pining for the bygone era. I'll never forget the days.
Starting point is 00:35:48 Growing up, being so hyped about E3, not knowing all the fucking insider industry bullshit, and just being like, what do I want them to do? That's how I like to think about these things. We know all the fucking safe predictions. I like having fun.
Starting point is 00:35:59 When I get my way, I'm stoked about it. Spiro? Yeah. Yeah, that'd be cool. Hell yeah, man. Spiro. Bring them back.
Starting point is 00:36:05 A little dragon deserves a better life than what he's been given right now. What's Spiro doing right now? He's like the Islanders. Oh, God. Oh, God. Oh, you mean making. hundreds of millions of dollars.
Starting point is 00:36:14 Being forgotten now. Yeah, when no one likes you like nobody that like... He's the guy in the company who like made the idea but then the company like monetized and no one remembers him anymore. Yeah, exactly. He's like it in Skylanders anymore. Yeah, he is. Is he really? He is. He has a TV show. I mean Crash talked, it was a whole fucking disaster. Go for it. Final prediction? Final.
Starting point is 00:36:34 I had Horizon D.L.C. on here too. I had Blomber 2 on here as well. I may end up at spring 2018. I'm a little born two by the way, but I'm not using that as my final prediction. Don't worry. Don't Instead I'm going to say And this is the one where it's hazy I look into the E3 future And I see it
Starting point is 00:36:50 But it's still there's still so much fog in the way of it But day is gone I can't tell if it's another If it's a trailer followed by gameplay If it's a trailer featuring a lot of gameplay Because I don't think they're going to give another big chunk Of like here's like running through and doing this stuff But it's a days gone
Starting point is 00:37:08 In depth something that's teaching us the mechanics To an extent of this game followed by the release date of September 2017. Oh, what? Yeah. I think it works on a few different levels of Sony Ben, even working on this game forever. Sony Ben get the fuck out of the way of The Last of Us 2.
Starting point is 00:37:24 You know what I mean? Like, let's get it out the door. It's also a time for Halloween. It's gotten like that vibe to it. I think that might be the way to play it. My only problem is I just think it's a hard sell in terms of all the mechanics of that game. But then again, I also think that Sony might be just looking to cut on it,
Starting point is 00:37:39 cut and run, get the runway clear. I'd be surprised if it's that far along. However, I do think that that's a solid prediction because, yeah, if it gets into next year, then you have to compete with theoretically, God of War and the other things like that. And I don't know if they're going to want to do that. When you start balancing this exclusive catalog, where is all this go? Yeah. I don't think Detroit's ready.
Starting point is 00:37:59 I don't think God of War is ready. I think that Sony Bend has been quiet forever, you know, since what, uncharted on Vita. It's a long time. And granted, I think projects got scrapped and all these different things. but I'd like to believe that's how they're going to play them and give them a chance to get that game out. I wonder if, because it seems like it was like such a win for them last year that like part of me would think that, oh,
Starting point is 00:38:22 obviously they would do is show another big gameplay thing. But I think maybe they've also learned from what happened with No Man Sky and stuff that they need, like if this game's coming out, they need to, I mean, they don't want to overhype it too much. Yeah. And if it's another year before it comes out and you've done it again. My thing about it is I just don't, I think you could do it in this window and still get get what you're going to get out of it.
Starting point is 00:38:42 I think the takeaway, I think reception for days gone widely after E3 last year was flat. Not that it didn't look good, not that it didn't look cool, but it was like, oh, it's a zombie game, and they crawl on each other
Starting point is 00:38:53 like World War Z. All right, cool. We kind of have that. Yeah, I thought so. Yeah. That's exactly how I felt about it. Really? Yeah, I didn't think that they were doing
Starting point is 00:38:59 anything original with that game. Yeah. I got to see a behind closed doors extended demo where they did peak my interest a little bit. Yeah. But, I mean, like the general public
Starting point is 00:39:09 didn't get to see that. demo. That was our whole thing of like, yeah, that's what I'm, like, they showed like, all right, well, your motorcycle's breaking down and needs gas and you need to go scavenge for that thing. And it was like, all right, cool. How do you show that?
Starting point is 00:39:19 How do you do it? I think you hit the ground, you give a date, you get people excited with a hype-ass trailer. So no gameplay. Hype-ass trailer. I'm with the hype trailer. That, and then it's like, all right, cool. Now at E3, journal has come in, see this
Starting point is 00:39:29 extended demo. They go out and talk about it. We do a press tour in a year, or a year, a month and a half, and then we're pretty much there. And I think it's just let's get it going and hype it up as much as you can because I don't think a, all right, let's do a preview tour and do this. And like another year of trying to hype that game gets it to where it needs to be. I think Detroit or Days Gone will be in the August, September slot this year. Mm.
Starting point is 00:39:52 Mm. All right. Last one. God, last one. Okay. It's probably, it's going to be mentioned at some stage. They're going to show something. Sony is the most likely spot for a trailer for Red Dead redemption two.
Starting point is 00:40:06 Don't think so. I disagree. I think like I think Rockstar made their announcement when they did to kind of be like, hey, we're not going to be at E3. Yeah, I think so.
Starting point is 00:40:17 Because Rockstar could like, give two fucks, buddy three. They're like, we don't need you E3. Like we stand alone. We're a giant. Like we don't need to show our game at a conference ever. I know they did that with GTA 5,
Starting point is 00:40:27 but I think also they had like such a communication thing with GTA 5. The thing with GTA, I don't know. I feel like GTA is a game that's going to sell no matter what. I feel like they had to like sell what that single player was because it was just complicated thing. I feel, I know we're like the post-E3 world when it comes to game announcements, but I feel like Red Dead is something they're going to have to sell a lot more times
Starting point is 00:40:48 and the opportunity to do so, there's not many more coming up if they're going to ship early next year. My thing is though, I agree with you that Red Dead is not Grand Theftado, so it does need a little bit more push, but I don't think E3 is the push. I think that their push is. PSX. I think even more than that, I think it's like commercials during the, the, you know, sports events and football. But I think it's that as well.
Starting point is 00:41:08 And I think it's PSX. And I think it's game. I don't know. I feel like they've put out so little about it now. I feel like Rockstar just feels with all the respect to Rockstar because they're amazing. I just feel like they're bigger than all of these events. I don't even think PSX. They are.
Starting point is 00:41:21 I think they'll just do their own thing. They kind of are. Yeah. They don't need to show their game at any of these events. Yeah. I mean, 80 million units. They've got quite a lot of cash that they can buy commercials with. Maybe it's the GTI online stuff, and maybe it's a special case,
Starting point is 00:41:37 but I also feel like they have been doing more outreach over the past year when it comes to, like, gaming communities and, like, Twitch broadcasters and stuff like that in a way that I can't imagine, like, Rockstar are doing two years ago even. So, I don't know, I'm hopeful. I've also got a rant, just, it's not really a prediction. Gatorade get a hype moment? They won't mention the Vito once.
Starting point is 00:41:56 Oh, yeah. No. No. They didn't last 303 either. Oh, really? No. All right. If it wasn't for G or course, they wouldn't even done it at PSX this here.
Starting point is 00:42:04 Okay, my final prediction. Mm-hmm. There it is, thanks. PlayStation, e-sports. So they've been getting really involved with the Capcom Pro Tour. They've been involved with the Call of Duty World League. Esports is the hot thing that everybody's getting involved with right now. Xbox last year talked about esports and tournaments on stage.
Starting point is 00:42:27 I think now's the time for PlayStation to come forward and say, we're getting to the e-sports game. What that looks like, I don't know. shitty app in your PS4. But clearly they are already have like, you know, they're one foot in the door with the things that I've already mentioned. So I think we're going to see more from PlayStation e-sports
Starting point is 00:42:44 at E3 this year. With the launch of PlayStation All-Stars Carding. That sounds more like a PSX thing to me. Like last year they talked about the Capcom thing, a bit of PSX and also the Call of Duty stuff. I see what you're saying, but E3 at its core
Starting point is 00:43:00 is for business and for sales and for money and for showboating how much money video games makes. What better way to do that than with the thing that everyone's throwing money at right now? That's true. Esports. But I just feel like Sony's done such a good job with your dreams one and two where they didn't do that.
Starting point is 00:43:17 You know, it was games, games, games, games, games. Right. But that's what I'm saying is like now is the time because in the past couple of years, obviously, e-sports have been around for, you know, decades, right? But like it's been in the last like two to three years that it's really kind of come to a fever pitch where everyone is talking to Eastport. entering console. Right.
Starting point is 00:43:36 Because like on PC, I mean, Kannerstrike or the Loll and Dota, like it was always still there. Yeah. But it does feel like it's having more of an effect in the consoles. Yeah, absolutely. I just like,
Starting point is 00:43:45 I mean, if we're talking about predictions, I mean, I have another couple of predictions that I feel like a little lame. And so this one feels like something that is unexpected and that people maybe didn't think about. But the more you kind of line up the pieces is like, well, if they were ever going to get into it,
Starting point is 00:44:00 next year's too late. Right. Right? get into it next year. Now is the time. And E3 is the place because you want to show to all of your investors, hey, we're getting into the hot thing that everyone else is getting into. Maybe they like announce now and then do something at PSX. Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, the Kempcombe tour, I think is coming back to PSX, I believe. So. Cool. Interesting. Interesting. All right. Cool. My final prediction. All right we go.
Starting point is 00:44:25 This is the most outlandish. I hope. I mean, so this is this is a weird one because it's like, It's not outlandish, but it's ridiculous. We're going to either get Kingdom Hearts 3 trailer or Final Fantasy 7 Part 2 trailer with a release year. Some type of release date that they're not going to hit. They just said three years or so. Yep. But I still think, I mean, I can't believe they showed it at PSX. I thought there was going to be a one and done thing 83, but then they did show it at PSX.
Starting point is 00:44:57 So I feel like it's either this or that. Kingdom Hearts 3 I think is a bit more likely but even that I don't know but I just think that they like showing these things It's just like it's not that it's coming anytime soon, but I think that they they're gonna show one or the other I don't think it'll be both The get hyped moment and this is here we go the most Square annex thing fucking possible Final Fantasy 16 announced Which I would kill for that if they were just like here's the trailer this and also I think Stormblood is that like a week after E3 or something? They're probably
Starting point is 00:45:29 going to be like, I don't think they care about that. I mean, obviously they do it's making the money. They don't care about talking about that. That just just fucking happens. They like putting out like CG trailers for games that aren't coming for years.
Starting point is 00:45:43 They get renamed a decade later. It's been a while since they've announced a new game that's 10 years out. So I think it might be time for fall of 60. That's the good hype moment. The prediction is either 5th,000 or Kinnemarks 3 trailer
Starting point is 00:45:57 at Sony's Christmas. I like how all of your picks are like five picks. At least two. I had a bonus pick, but it didn't attach to any of my other picks. That was that only Andrew House will be on stage. No one else.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Okay. Okay. Was any other drags? Any other anything? No, I cleaned out everything in there. Cool. All right. That is Sony.
Starting point is 00:46:20 Next topic. Nintendo. Predictions for the Nintendo presentation taking place on Tuesday of E3. I was supposed to five each for this. Five each for this. It's got to get real weird at the end.
Starting point is 00:46:33 Yeah. Let's go. Let's go. Greg kick us off, right? Mine get, not weird, but I mean, this is like, whatever. Because here's, I think, they're going to come out. They're going to extend the free online trial period for your Nintendo Switch. Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:49 We're still gathering data. We're excited about the launch of arms. We've seen so much with Mario Kart. We've decided to extend this through the holiday season. Okay. That you can try this for online. online for free because it still doesn't work. And we don't have the app ready.
Starting point is 00:47:03 And friend codes are the worst. Exactly. Yeah, no, I buy that. Yeah. Especially, I'll get back to when we make some other predictions. But I want to talk about that online service. But okay, okay. Sounds good. Free words. Speaking of Jeremy Dunham. Rocket League Switch. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:47:19 That's a really good one. It's a good fit. Yeah. Oh, no. Yeah. Super good fit. Makes a lot of sense. They like getting more online games on there.
Starting point is 00:47:27 We've talked about in the morning show. the ability to play it local with switches is what would change it for me. Because the problem I have with it now is the fact that I loved Rocket League playing it before when we played in the office on demos and stuff. And then when it finally came out, went away for the weekend, came back and everyone's doing amazing tricks. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:47:43 well, I can't even fucking, there was a game where I just got fucking shut out. And eventually the guy just drove around me in circles with the ball because he felt sorry for me. I was like, well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:50 Should I do this. So I'd reset the playing field. That makes sense to, especially when Nintendo's kind of focus on indie games of that. that call-upper. Yeah, totally. And the multiplayer focus and all that. And it's printed money for them.
Starting point is 00:48:03 And it's going to be a platform that they're going to keep out into for like an hour two years probably. Yeah. So they need to establish it on as many platforms. Yeah. And from talking to a whole bunch of times, they're totally about getting it on.
Starting point is 00:48:13 Oh, yeah. They were everywhere. It's possible. Super Smash Bros. Switch. Deluxe. Super Smash Bros. Deluxe for Switch. So basically what they did with Mario Kart,
Starting point is 00:48:23 but for Smash. Yeah. That's good shot. So that is one of my predictions. That's the one that I wanted to bring this up. I think that they're going to, push the online to be free because I think smash will be the more premium thing
Starting point is 00:48:33 when they actually institute the paid online. Is this a prediction now or are you just putting a footnote? Now I'm just like talking footnote about that. So I do buy that they're going to push the online to be later because that makes sense because I think that smash is going to come out next year, early next year in February. You have any any thoughts about
Starting point is 00:48:51 date? No, no thoughts about date. Yeah. Do you have any thoughts on what the smash port would be? what do you mean new characters oh you mean like what what they would add to it to to make it like deluxe um i mean obviously a new character or two would make sense i think i think if they announced it at the they announced in this direct they announce a new character uh specifically for this version splatoon kids inklings yeah or like an arms character or somebody i don't know an arms character makes sense so the prediction prediction i have down for for smash was it's going to mix the 3d s and
Starting point is 00:49:27 We're doing we use stuff. So it'll be all the smash run stuff from the 3DS and all the stages and all the Wii U exclusive stages put those all together. But there was a leaked image that came out a couple days ago that the validity of it is is up for debate But that would make a lot of sense and then yeah, I think ice climbers return. I think that they would announce that During this and then I the get hyped a moment would be Ribbon girl or the fucking spring dude from arms or the inklings but I also get can see them kind of holding off for when those games are released in the next month and two months after. Because Nintendo is all about taking Smash and using it to hype up the other games with their directs and stuff. So there'll be a direct for arms and it ends with an arms character, right?
Starting point is 00:50:12 So I can make it a lot of sense. But I do, I don't think we're going to see it this year, but I do think we're going to get it. You know who I want for their extra character is those weird, like, normal looking humans from from Mario. Yeah. guy with the hat on. There needs to be an Odyssey level,
Starting point is 00:50:28 like right, a place to fight. Because they have that like Wii U trainer. Yeah. Like we fit trainer. They always have like the one weird one out of there.
Starting point is 00:50:34 Yeah. Yeah. My thing with the Smash is I, I'm interested in it in how it differs from Mario Kart because adding characters of Smash is a lot of work and design time. And Sakurai has been like working on Smash
Starting point is 00:50:47 for so long and he's been saying I'm done, I'm done, I'm done for so long and he just keeps going back and doing it. So I'm interested to see what he's working on and what his next game is. if it's going to be more smash or not.
Starting point is 00:50:57 This doesn't necessarily need him to lead it, but knowing him and how he's made games, I imagine he'd be involved with the port intimately. And there's not too many characters that I think that they could add to hit that time frame. But I do think that it's a safe bet for his climbers and one or two others.
Starting point is 00:51:13 I don't think Snake makes it back, though. Oh, no. You always make DLC. I don't think there would be. And then DLC would be. This is it. This is your complete version. What's interesting about Nintendo right now
Starting point is 00:51:24 is they're kind of in a, a freaking weird place where they're just porting all the Wii U games, which is awesome because it's getting the great games in front of the audience. Yeah. But it's going to create a problem in a couple years when what? So when are we getting the new Mario Kart? When we get the new smash? No time soon. That's future Nintendo's problem.
Starting point is 00:51:39 Yeah. But I mean, that future is coming up very soon. Rapidly approaching. When they get all their games out in the first year of ports. All right. First prediction. Speaking of ports. Pokemon Stars is real.
Starting point is 00:51:51 Down it. Coming in October. Like we all had that one. Coming in October. over. Okay. And the thing that I think is that change here is on both 3DS and Switch. Oh. Yeah. I want it to be Switch exclusive. For sure. But it's not going to be. You can't have a Pokemon game and not have it on 3DS.
Starting point is 00:52:09 But they've been so careful not to like, to totally cannibalize the 3DS, to be like, yo, this is your new handheld platform. The fact that Fire Emblem Warriors is coming out on switch and 3DS is the one thing that I'm like, oh, they're totally doubling down. The 2DSXL, all this, they are not giving up on this 3DS and they might as well sell millions of units of Pokemon Stars to an audience that wants it and already has the system. And I think that it is enough.
Starting point is 00:52:35 It doesn't need to be exclusive on the Switch. That game is not going to push people to buy a Switch in the way that a new Pokemon game would. So you might as well have it available on both. And I think that that would convince the people that already have a 3DS that still want like a fuck it all upgrade
Starting point is 00:52:50 because now it makes sense with Zelda, Mario Kart and Pokemon and all that. number two they don't say a motherfucking word about the virtual console oh you think yeah yeah that's a good call everybody's getting all hyped up that it's gonna happen
Starting point is 00:53:06 ain't gonna happen they're gonna say god damn word about this fucking thing it would be smart if they did but Nintendo has not been making like the smartest publicity moves I feel like Nintendo I'm trying to now that I care about Nintendo I'm trying to remember old directs
Starting point is 00:53:19 and how people got hyped about certain things but how directs flow usually and how it'll have hey Mario Odyssey is what we're pushing and we're excited about this future thing and yeah there'll be an announcement or two here but this is what it's going to be about. A important thing to note about Nintendo's presentation is they've made it very, very clear that this is focusing on 2017 games.
Starting point is 00:53:38 And they're like, it's talking about the 3DS and switch lineup specifically switch 2017 games. So if they didn't make a single announcement about a 2018 game, I don't think that that would be a shock because when Nintendo says they're going to talk about something in the direct, they talk about that thing in the direct. Yeah. When they say, hey, it's platoon or it's arms. You're getting a splatoon trailer.
Starting point is 00:53:57 That's all you get. There's no surprises or any of that shit. But fuck it, man. Like, I believe that they need to have some fun. So I don't agree with you about the virtual console. Yeah? Yeah. They're going to talk about details?
Starting point is 00:54:07 I'm going to. I'm jumping ahead of you guys. Making my next prediction. I don't know if that's fit. Do you guys have predictions about the virtual console? No. Okay. Mine's direct opposition.
Starting point is 00:54:17 Okay. Yeah. I predict that there will be virtual console talk. I agree with you. They're probably not Gunnu. But I predicted the guno. Okay. GameCube title support.
Starting point is 00:54:27 And they got hype moment. Mother 3 finally being localized. Yeah. If they're reading message boards. They're reading message boards, they'll fucking do it. Okay. Okay. Do you think Nintendo is reading message boards?
Starting point is 00:54:40 I think missing Nintendo's out there. He knows. He knows. If Mother 3 is not announced at E3, I don't think it's ever going to happen. So I think that now there's goodwill with Nintendo right now with giving certain groups what they want. And I think that they know they are aware of this happening. And I think that if virtual console is talked about,
Starting point is 00:54:59 that they're going to announce GamePue games and Mother. Interesting. Danny. All right, boring one. Mario Odyssey release date. Which will be mid-November. Nailed it. November 11th.
Starting point is 00:55:16 I put November. Oh, that's good. That's mine. All right. My second Nintendo. It's getting hard already, isn't it? Which one am I going to go with? they are going to make a splashy show
Starting point is 00:55:30 of all of the fun colored joycons that you can buy for Nintendo Switch. Would be new colors? There will be new colors. There will be combos of colors. There will be all kinds of colors of joycons that are overpriced. Yeah, we're going to be excited.
Starting point is 00:55:46 But yes, so I as a Switch owner, wish that I could have waited to buy joycons, but if you want to play Mario Kart with four people, you had to buy joycons now. Every store I've ever walked into only had the gray joycons. So hopefully they'll manufacture more. But I anticipate lots of colored joycons that they will be showing in there direct. That would be a fun little video too.
Starting point is 00:56:10 I'm like plop, plop, plop, plop and the ditty. They're all going around. All right. Yeah. I made my second one already. Yeah, you did. Yeah, I did. My third one.
Starting point is 00:56:19 And this is definitely a get hype moment. Internet browser is coming to switch. No. That's a get-hook. That's a get-hug moment. If somebody who's in hotels a lot and can't connect their switch to the internet, I'm pretty hyped about the ability to jump in and do it. And I think that's wise.
Starting point is 00:56:33 I think that I would hope that now that there's practical use cases out there, like, oh, hey, this is a mistake. At the airport, people can't fucking download them by our games. That's trouble. That's not an E3 presentation thing for them. No? No. You think it's something they tacked on, like, we're making changes.
Starting point is 00:56:47 I think that's just a firmware update at some point. You know what it's better than me. I just, yeah, I don't think, I don't see them focusing on that in the, well, the well, the words are out of my mouth. Well, your prediction is trash, he's saying. That's fine. I'm used to him shitting on me. You got your, you got, you got ready to go. Oh, do I?
Starting point is 00:57:02 Do I? That's the thing. It's like, it's also scraping the bottom of the barrel now. Yeah. What else is that? I still have a couple good ones. Okay. I think there will be a, it's kind of a no-brainer.
Starting point is 00:57:12 I have to put a number on this. They will announce, let's say, let's go balls out, 15 indie games that are coming to the switch this year. They'll have a presentation that will be like, because it's totally Yeah, is it new nineties or is it old Nis? I mean, ports of other Indies that haven't come over.
Starting point is 00:57:31 But like totally new games, not just what we saw at GDC because we saw a lot of GDC that still isn't outright. They have so much of GDC that I think 15 new announcements might be a bit much. No, and no. I can imagine 15. Like in total. More detail on the things like release dates or whatever.
Starting point is 00:57:46 Like here's a ukulele release date and things like that. I'll say 10. Okay. 10 new announcements of indie games. Yes. Okay. All right. Well, you know, you kind of put a thorn in some of mine by reminding us that this, that their presentation is going to be about stuff in 2017, because I have a couple here that are clearly not 2017 predictions. But I do think that we are going to see something about Animal Crossing on Switch. Yeah, yeah, I was one of mine too. I said teased. Animal Crossing teased was my prediction.
Starting point is 00:58:18 Yeah, it's coming. Animal Crossing Switch. What's interesting about Animal Crossing is we know that the mobile game is coming. It got put. They said that the Zolda ones coming first, if I remember correctly on that. But I wouldn't be surprised if the Animal Crossing mobile game and Animal Crossing Switch had some type of cross situation going on. So I can see them talking about like teasing both if they do talk beyond 2017, which I don't think they're going to. But yeah, fuck it. Fuck it. Yeah. My next one.
Starting point is 00:58:49 I got to jump on this shit before someone else even fucking mentions the word. The word? Metroid. Yeah. There's a big question of, will it even be mentioned at all? I think that it will. In fact, I'm going to predict some crazy shit here. I think that both Metroid and Retro Studios game will be announced.
Starting point is 00:59:09 Now, that's a weird statement. What do you mean there, Tim? I think that if Retro is working on Metroid, that'll be it. If Retro's not working on Metroid, whoever is, that'll be announced and what retro is being on, it will be announced. Gotcha. So if it's retro with Metro one game, if it's retro not doing Metroid, two games. Gotcha. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:59:32 Interesting. That's a fascinating one. What do you guys think about Metroid? It's one of those like, I think it's one of those like hopes and dreams. Yeah. But it's one of those that you predict every time and it's got to happen eventually. Right? I think the retro side of it is the more interesting part because they have to have something to announce at this point.
Starting point is 00:59:53 It's been tropical freeze was years ago. So I don't know. But you think it'd be this year too? No, I don't. There's no chance in hell that the Metro game comes out this year. That's what I'm like, this is based on what Nintendo is saying, these are not going to be predictions that happen. But I still want to.
Starting point is 01:00:10 I almost prefer them to be on a new IP or something because Nintendo have actually had success with New IP in the past couple of years. And Metro was always one of those franchises that sold way more in North America than it did in Japan. So that love doesn't seem to be there either. So I don't know. Retro is American, so Right. Like, I don't know, there's, there's a lot going on with that.
Starting point is 01:00:27 But the thing is, like, there's, there's been rumors of, like, a 2D Metroid game. There's Metroid Prime. There's 2D Metroid. There's, like, what else could it be? Retro is retro working on Donkey Kong country fucking returns again? Like, I don't know. But there you go. Some of mine have been burns and now I'm starting to, I'm going into the relief bag here on the fly.
Starting point is 01:00:45 Nintendo is going to announce some fucking dumb partnership with some random business. It'll be like you can go to. Pizza Hutter subway and use their Wi-Fi to try new games or some weird ass shit like that. Some stupid-ass partnership. You go to Macy's and you get a game good or whatever. You can get a new avatar for your fucking thing. Okay.
Starting point is 01:01:07 I mean, nobody's mentioned the Robbins yet, right? So, oh, yeah. I feel like Ubisoft. Pretty locked at this point. I know. Outside of that, right, because that's like that's a little bit too obvious. Ubisoft are like, they keep coming back. Like, they just love supporting the shit
Starting point is 01:01:22 of Nintendo consoles. Thick and thin. I think they're going to announce, I don't think any of their 2017 slot or stuff is going to come out. I can't see any Far Cry or New Assassin Screen and any of that stuff coming to Switch. But I do think that maybe there's an outside bet
Starting point is 01:01:36 that they might do some of, because they've done a lot of re-releases. So maybe the AC2 re-release stuff ends up on Switch, something like that. You mean like the EtTO collection? Yes. So something in that sort of like throwbacky, hey, this is a run on this machine.
Starting point is 01:01:50 Right. Definitive edition's coming. And that like felt more like a poor. rather than like re-reasing old stuff again. So yes, to your point, the X-O collection is probably a good show. I like your optimism. I think that those- Optimism?
Starting point is 01:02:02 Yeah. I think those games are too big for Switch. I think it's too much work to port those games to Switch more accurately. But they've gotten along other consoles. I like this because it kind of, I'm kind of going to tag team you on the Ubisoft and Nintendo thing because in no way are we not seeing just dance on the Switch. Right. So I didn't know if I wanted to save that for the third party predictions.
Starting point is 01:02:26 Just Dance was a launch title. Really? No, like the new Just Dance. Oh. Because Just Dance is going to have another iteration. They're going to do a new one. Yeah. Because it's Ubisoft's bread and butter.
Starting point is 01:02:37 Of course. They make lots of money. There will be a new one probably announced on Monday at Ubisoft. That's the thing is I think that none of this will be in the Nintendo. And then Tuesday morning, Nintendo will say this new Just Dance is coming to the switch. Either do I. But you ask for five. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:51 That's why you're getting. If they do that, I don't think they'll actually say it. I think it'll be like in a montage or something. Because I do think that that's a UB announcement, not an intended announcement. Yeah. And that's why I'm kind of confused about, you know, like where it would fit better. I mean, I have some other like pipe dream predictions like F0 on the switch, but that's never happening this year.
Starting point is 01:03:08 But so here's the thing. If it's happening, not this year. The crazy thing about the F0 and this is me just being super fucking hopeful is if the GameCube virtual console support comes, I do think that we'll see F0 GX, which is. the best fucking Nive Zero game of all time. I think if they do the GameCube stuff, they'll lead with the, like,
Starting point is 01:03:25 Feutiful Joe, what were that called? Like the five, the, what was that set of games called that came out on GameCube? It was like the, the five really good games
Starting point is 01:03:33 that all, they were all part of, or whatever. I don't know what we're talking about. Maybe they won't, because clearly no one remembers it. Yeah, I mean,
Starting point is 01:03:39 the virtual console thing is interesting because there's been rumors from Eurogamer from a long time ago of melee, Luigi's Mansion, and Mario Sunshine coming.
Starting point is 01:03:48 Mario Sunshine, am a little ifion because of Odyssey. coming out. But Smash Bros. melee would be a fucking bombshell announcement of that being portable on the Switch. And if they did announce GameCube virtual console for this year with a Smash Bros game,
Starting point is 01:04:01 that allows the port of the next one to come out in February. Making that make a bit more sense. I think F0 is a good show as well. That console's made for it. I've got two of them. Like, Thumper and what was the other one that came out? The wipeout like? Yeah. Yeah. I think it works really good. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's a good fit.
Starting point is 01:04:17 Yeah. All right. She just did it. That was my. It wasn't it? Wasn't it yours? No, no, no. No, she tagged teamed it. Oh, we got it. Okay, cool, cool, cool. My last one, from software's game first, which will be announced.
Starting point is 01:04:30 We saw their logo on the thing a long time ago. I think it's either going to be a new IP, but more likely it'll be Dark Souls 3 port. Oh. That's a good call. That's an interesting idea of playing Dark Souls on a Switch on a Switch. Yeah. Just feels like, here's my cool, casual, fun thing. And like, no.
Starting point is 01:04:50 That's why I think that there's a chance it might be a new, Right instead could be working on two new IPs but that's the other thing I'm like I feel like it's more likely we get just a this three port You got some other bullshit as yeah well this is tying into my I'm gonna give you now a little bit of a window I'm painting a picture Reggie's up there. He's talking about this stuff right and he's like what what you're shaking you head it no reggie? Well, I mean He won't be up there's no stage He's on the screen got it. Jesus. Yeah, all right
Starting point is 01:05:19 Reggie's talking I think Reggie's part of it. Yeah, really hasn't been a part of any of the That's why it's time to ring them back. It's time to ring them back. Who are you going to put up? This hack Bill? No, they've been using a bunch of random ass dudes. And we're not, now we're bringing it back. Reggie's up there.
Starting point is 01:05:31 He's giving us members of the tree house. They're not random ass dudes. Well, I mean, but they're not like personalities that we know. We're learning them now, but they're not like the iconic. It's not Bill and them. Fad favorites. Yeah. Reggie's out there.
Starting point is 01:05:46 He's talking about how well the switch has been doing, but it can do they want to do better. That's why this year they're announcing a whole bunch of little, little tweaks to make it better, the internet browser, this is coming in this firmware, also included in a future firmware, the ability to transfer your saves to the little memory stick, because that's such a big deal, your saves and all your shit's locked in. Not no more, we understand, we screwed that up, we're fixing that for you. I'm Reggie. Now let's talk about how you can go to Domino's track your pizza with it as well. All right. Topic three, Microsoft. All right. This is going to be a fun one. Kick it off, Greg. I mean, are you ready? Because I'm
Starting point is 01:06:21 bringing the thunder. This is the one where I'm going to turn heads and I'm going to be right on a lot of this. Guess what's going to happen? The developers from Supermassive will come out on stage and announce their next game and it will have a window of Xbox exclusivity. These are the Until Dawn guys.
Starting point is 01:06:38 Is it a sequel to Until Dawn? No. New IP, new game. We're coming out. Oh, no, Sony owns Until Dawn. Oh, yeah. Go to the PlayStation Conference. That's a fucking game that I want to see. Until Dawn, too.
Starting point is 01:06:51 How about this, though? Supermassive. said earlier that, you know, like a year ago, they wanted to go multi-platform, they wanted to reach more people. I think this is their chance to do it. I think Xbox has the money to throw behind it. Be like, hey, guys, we're the ones who brought you until dawn, or the horror game so many people like. Yeah. This is
Starting point is 01:07:04 our new thing where it's going to come here and it runs best on Scorpio. Yeah, we're going to hear that a lot. Oh yeah. Okay. Should we get into the hardware already? No, I'm not. I feel like I've posted too much that stuff already. See if these release date. Yeah, that's a good one. Fucking better. Done. They have to get that game out.
Starting point is 01:07:20 What do you think it is going to be? earlier. I could say August. Yeah, August or September. That sounds good. That sounds good. They just need to get that game out there. Like they need exclusive games.
Starting point is 01:07:32 They need to pave the way for more to more exciting exclusive games. I think that's probably going to come up in the next little bit. And that's like part of the old thing that they just need to get it done. Yeah. Well, I'm not waiting to poach. I'm poaching. So I think they're going to obviously give a price point for Scorpio. I think the base model is 449, premium model up to 599.
Starting point is 01:08:00 It'll depend on a hard drive size. The bigger the hard drive. The bigger the price tag. I think that 449 feels like a good price. They can't come in at 500 as their base model. It's too high. 400 is too low for them to make money on this. 449 feels right.
Starting point is 01:08:19 Yeah, that makes sense. But they will have a premium version. version for more expensive. That's interesting. The idea of them, because the messaging on Scorpio's already is a little bit tough for them because it's like an iteration.
Starting point is 01:08:30 So having an iteration on an iteration would be a tough one for them to do. But that does sound, yeah. The Terraflops though. Dem Terraflops. Oh man, it's all about. Todd Howard's super excited about it. Flopping like it's hard.
Starting point is 01:08:44 That's going to be their slogan. It goes in opposition to yours. Oh. No Scorpio. $400. Okay. Fourundo. November.
Starting point is 01:08:52 It is called the Xbox One Elite. Ooh. Okay. What do you guys think is it going to be called? I think that's a nice guess. I think they're already using Elite for their, the controllers, right? Right.
Starting point is 01:09:07 Which is why I think it makes sense. And especially the 360 Elite, there's legacy with it. I think you're wrong about that $400 price point because it makes it like that. I mean, I just think you're right. you're wrong. But I think, yeah, we're going to get a name.
Starting point is 01:09:25 It's not going to be called Scorpio. We're going to get an official name. To be fair, I think that your 450 makes a lot more sense because I think 500 is just too high for what this is and for Xbox's place in the market space right now. But I wouldn't have thought of 450 and I didn't want to change mine. So I'm sticking to what the prediction says, because I'm a fair player. But 450, it sounds like such a weird number to put out there. But I think that-
Starting point is 01:09:51 It's 449. Yeah. Okay. Okay. I do think that it's going to be like my real safe predictions that it's under 500 because or else I think they're shooting themselves on the foot in a way that they can't. All right. So are you copying my prediction?
Starting point is 01:10:08 No, no. I'm sticking to the 400 for the same. That was real. Price is right. Yeah. It's like do I want to get in on this train or do I want it? Because I have Scorpio prediction. Right.
Starting point is 01:10:19 Six here. I think a lot of them are really good. I'm going to skip it. Maybe if I need to, I'll come back to it. Lights go out. Or, you know, whoever's up there. Phil Spencer, whoever is like, hey, we have another exciting partnership to announce. Lights go out.
Starting point is 01:10:33 Screen's black. Screen comes up. It is the From Software logo. Some fucking nerdy-ass song. None of us recognize plays. But back home, more Scion bursts into tears. Because it's armored core. And it's coming exclusively to Xbox.
Starting point is 01:10:49 The next armor core is. exclusive to Xbox. He can't fucking believe it. None of us care. A whole bunch of dork gamers do, though. And holy shit, are they excited? That's awesome. That is like exactly the type of
Starting point is 01:11:03 excuse if they don't need. Now get the hardcore gamers, get all the little niche audience, niche audiences in there. Okay. So Ocidas is not going to be at the show, right? I don't know. It's not going to be any.
Starting point is 01:11:19 They're not going to do three. Are they really? No. Okay. I mean, that's good. should not. Right. They need to lay low for a while.
Starting point is 01:11:26 It's been a weird year for them. Yes. But Microsoft's VR stuff has been like hooked on to Oculus since, you know, how do we think PSVR is done for Sony? I mean, it's better than what they thought. It's done incredibly well. Yeah. So I can, I kind of swing both ways on this one.
Starting point is 01:11:45 I can kind of see them not mentioning Oculus at all, which is dangerous because is their last time to talk to their consumers, PSX is obviously, you know, Sony have. two bites of the cherry with this stuff. But it's such a disastrous time for Oculus. I feel like Oculus would not want to talk about anything. So what's your prediction? My prediction is that they will mention it in like passing. Like as part of the Scorpio reveals stuff.
Starting point is 01:12:08 Bullet points. They will say yes. They will mention that VR support is going to be part and we'll talk about it at a future time. That there won't be like a montage of here's all the VR stuff we're going to be doing. Yeah, they'll they'll mention that like in the same way you were saying, you know, PlayStation 4 Pro works really good for VR and whatnot, that they'll allude to it, but they'll be very light on the details with VR. I disagree.
Starting point is 01:12:31 My prediction is that Xbox VR will be announced at E3. What better way to debut Xbox VR than with Project Scorpio? You got this new fancy console that runs really well. You got VR. VR has done really well for PlayStation. A lot of money is going into VR right now. It's like the new hot VC thing, right? everyone's talking about VR and investing in VR much like
Starting point is 01:12:56 ESports, but Xbox is already in ESports. So they need to get into VR and HoloLens is not it. HoloLens is not going to be a gaming thing. It's going to go to business. HoloLens is going to be strictly for the Microsoft side of things. So Xbox needs its headset and its headset is Xbox VR. I don't know if that's the name of it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:14 But I really feel like now is... How about Xbox One Elite VR? Now is the time for them to get into VR because if they don't do it now, then they're going to miss the boat. And they're launching this brand new, powerful console. It makes sense. X-N-R. I think it's too late.
Starting point is 01:13:30 I would love to, I mean, that's a cool announcement, but I feel like it would just be muddy the water. I think they want to focus so much on Scorpia that launching another piece of hardware, in quotes, would be so tough. Okay. You don't have to agree with me? It's a tough one to balance, though, right?
Starting point is 01:13:42 I'm discussing it with you. If they don't do it now, when do they do it? Yeah. So it's like, it's both the right time to do it and also the wrong time to do it as well. It's like... I'm just, I'm not sold on. on the whole VR being a success thing.
Starting point is 01:13:55 I feel like in terms of making money for Sony, like I'm sure that it did and it worked for them. But like when you look at their lineup and we'll see what they announce at the conference, but like there's nothing coming for it. Like it had its launch games. I just tell you about special delivery. And okay, next week.
Starting point is 01:14:09 There's little things like that, but like there's not this like schedule of lineup of games coming out over this year even like that even. Maybe they're gonna maybe they're gonna. Maybe that's what I'm saying. But like I don't think that they're gonna.
Starting point is 01:14:21 So I don't know. I think that. The VR thing was more of a PlayStation move style. Like it's gonna be here for a second and then it's gone. Obviously VR is here to stay in the grand scheme of things, but I think in terms of dedicated video games supports and it being like another pillar to the big guys, I think that it's more on the like smaller niche gimmicky side
Starting point is 01:14:42 than it is like full bore into it. All right, fine, that's fine. New tarok. Let's see. Oh my gosh, please. I'm gonna jump around here. I have some good ones. You know, fuck it.
Starting point is 01:14:54 Cuphead. Oh God. No, damn it, that was my next one. Cancelled. Cuphead release date. I literally wrote in my notes, shit or good off the pot. The Get Hypes moment available tonight. Yes, I could totally.
Starting point is 01:15:11 I could totally see that. And like that be. I see I would so good. I would caution you to take the Get Hype tag off it. Just put that in your real prediction because that's actually a really good one. Fuck it. Sure. There you go. Good.
Starting point is 01:15:24 I'd be hyped about that. Just cost them some points. No, I'm kidding. I hope they really did. That'd be awesome. That's really good one. Where do I want to go next? Where do I want to go next?
Starting point is 01:15:32 I know I should have my VR one. You say, you'll get them all. Don't worry about it. There's a lot of empty space on that page. There's none. It's jam packed with information. Didn't take it show the page. Crackdown!
Starting point is 01:15:43 It's just a trailer. It looks incredibly different and everyone panics. I totally agree. I think it's going to be. very different than the last time we saw it. And do you think there's any release window? Nope. I think it would honestly be, I mean, because like, I think it would be a hat-in-hand moment for
Starting point is 01:16:04 them of like, hey, a lot of you asked about crackdown. We're already excited to show it. It's not, we got off track. And we had to restart it and the team back and wherever has been working really hard. And they're excited to show you what it is now. I think it's going to be a Scorpio, like, launch title. I feel like it has to be. It kind of has to be.
Starting point is 01:16:21 And I'll double down on, I'm sorry. Am I as a mean day? That was it. I'm done. I'll just double down on that and I think that they'll also announce for Tomorrow's Sport 7 as a launch time. Is that your prediction? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:31 So you're saying crackdown, your prediction is two Scorpio launch titles. Was my next one? Am I taking two though? I'm not asking you. Oh no, that's one prediction is what I was saying. Yes.
Starting point is 01:16:40 Yeah. Yeah. So your prediction is... Both of the games will be launch titles. Both in will be launch titles. They'll show, you know, they need... Like, Scorpio, if it's all about the graphics and running well, like it's a no-brainer that the car game
Starting point is 01:16:54 is the thing that they push it out there with there's a long and story history of Microsoft consoles getting shipped with sexy looking car games they totally need that and you know it's a bit of a no-brainer Turned down a little trotted out Okay
Starting point is 01:17:09 so this one that I have I don't think it's going to be exclusive but we will see maybe a teaser trailer for Shadow of the Tomb Raider Oh. I was even thinking about that's a really good one. So there was,
Starting point is 01:17:27 I use leak in air quotes because somebody had their PowerPoint presentation open on a train like an asshole. Somebody who snapped a shot over his shoulder. He had a deck that said, chat about the Tomb Raider. Obviously, you know, we know that something else is coming.
Starting point is 01:17:44 So I think now is a good time to maybe do a teaser. I don't think we get. That sounds about right because it was last. year. The fall is when we got the definitive edition, whatever, 10 year celebration, right? And so that meant a year
Starting point is 01:17:57 before that. So yeah, yeah, that makes sense. That's good. That's good. I like that one. Oh, man. Exciting. Trying to figure out the order of these guys. I'm just going to draw it here. Borderlands 3. Announced. Obviously not exclusive. Well, it's already been announced.
Starting point is 01:18:14 But like, more like detail. Maybe like a trailer or something like that. Okay. Okay. Okay. Interesting. On stage at Xbox. Because yeah, I don't think it would be anywhere else. I feel like when they announced it and like, hey, we're casting for Borderlands here or whatever
Starting point is 01:18:28 they said. They were looking for teammate. It seems so not that long ago, if that makes sense. It seems like it was so recent that that set. I would be interesting how far along they are with that, but they're ready to do that. That's a good one. I'm just thinking, I feel like Xbox not only needs its exclusives, but it also needs a presence during the event.
Starting point is 01:18:45 Well, and gearbox has been quiet for a while. Yeah, for a long time. So I don't know. It feels right to me. Let me see when that announcement was. I'm looking because now I want to know. Sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:56 It feels like it was this recent, but it can't be that recent. I don't know. I have to find it now. But I'm talking about a proper announcement. I know. I'm not so many times games are announced, but they're like. I'm not saying announced. I'm just saying now I'm trying to think about how far along the game would be in production
Starting point is 01:19:10 where it would be. But I guess it's been so long since Borderlands 2, too, too as well. It's a national great. All right. This is Stick with me Because it's gonna Obviously this is gonna happen
Starting point is 01:19:22 But I mean like it's gonna happen State of K2 is gonna get a huge push Like suddenly this is a AAA Halo push Like that Like state of K one beloved by fans like me But super small team on Dead Labs Great folks up in Seattle But I mean now they're gonna come out
Starting point is 01:19:38 And it's gonna be State of K2 is happening It's awesome Here's this giant thing Like make a huge fucking deal About this game of the show in a way that's syndicate nobody ever did Staticade K number one was like oh it's a cool zombie game we got anyways
Starting point is 01:19:49 let's talk about A-Lo and gears and all this stuff Well it's because Phil wore that t-shirt Right now it's a big deal exactly well it's all they got They're reaching back into the quiver and they got like three arrows clanking around See these Hmm Okay I'll buy it
Starting point is 01:20:03 It's a pretty big outside bet But I feel like if it's gonna if it was to pop up on any Of the console manufacturer's stages It might be too early to be doing this but I think we could see a trailer or at least some sort of information about Player Unknown's Battlegrounds coming to consoles. Oh, I think that's a good bet.
Starting point is 01:20:27 And they need, that would be a nice get for Microsoft because they need to build that community around it. And it's like, you know, they don't have that. A lot of their online games, the fours, the gears of war fours and stuff haven't like latched onto people. And I think that's a really good transition. That's a really smart one. But it might be a bit too early.
Starting point is 01:20:44 I've heard an announcement. That's the thing is I don't think it's too early to talk about it and like to kind of claim ownership over the brands that people think Xbox when they think about it. This is a game everybody's been excited about it on PC and we're happy to announce that we are working right now to bring it to Xbox. And it'll look better on Scorpion.
Starting point is 01:20:59 Yeah. How many, we should think that's on how many times they're going to mention that or that comes up. Just making a drinking game. Yeah, Lord. How many times do they say Scorpio? They don't because they announce the name of the new console. Which is Xbox.
Starting point is 01:21:13 Okay. I think we will hear about Minecraft on stage. Very safe. Yeah, all right, all right. I respect the game. I respect the hustle. I get press releases from Minecraft like every other week that say TLDR at the top of them,
Starting point is 01:21:37 which I think is hysterical. But obviously this is a giant franchise for them. they spent a lot of money. It makes them a lot of money still. Clearly, it's going to be coming to Scorpio. If it's going to be a new iteration, if there's going to be something different that they're doing with it,
Starting point is 01:21:55 I think they're going to announce something new for Minecraft on stage at E3. They kind of have to, right? They spend all that money. Yeah, like $2 billion. It's funny. When we were preparing for this, I was like, oh, switch.
Starting point is 01:22:10 I'll do Minecraft and it's already come out. I don't even know. We came out like two weeks ago or something. Yeah. That's a good show. Do you think it'll be like Minecraft 2? Isn't it that realms shit that they, I don't know Minecraft.
Starting point is 01:22:25 So I'm not sure about this. But I remember last year they like really went into. Yeah. So that was kind of like the worlds that they were, they added. I don't actively play Minecraft. I don't think that it's going to be Minecraft too. I think that would be really cool.
Starting point is 01:22:39 But I think that goes against the entire community. in the world that they've created. I don't think that they would want to ask these millions and millions of players around the world to move to a new thing. I think that's a living, breathing ecosystem and that they're just going to add to it. I don't think they're going to make a new Minecraft. Do they still have really high concurrence on that? Like, I have no video on Minecraft.
Starting point is 01:23:01 Oh, God. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. If you ever want to get off those Minecraft emails, what happened to me is I got hit up like, hey, I'm the Minecraft PR person. I was like, awesome. Like, hey, can we do a desk side visit?
Starting point is 01:23:12 I'm like, I'll be honest, I only play on PlayStation Vita. Never one email again. Never got one email about Minecraft again. This is our fourth, correct? Yes. Yeah. Okay. See, this is one that I don't have too much faith in,
Starting point is 01:23:28 but I feel like it's time to be announced somewhere. And I think that Microsoft would do very well off having this. Rock City. announces a new DC game. Oh, doctor. Get hype moment being Batman Beyond. Jesus Christ. They said they're done working on Batman.
Starting point is 01:23:50 I know. But Batman Beyond is different. That's the thing. They're done with their Arkham universe. I think more likely would be a Justice League or something of that nature. Just something DC. And like that would really,
Starting point is 01:24:02 I think Microsoft having that sets up the Sony having Marvel. Microsoft having DC thing Which is why the Avengers thing that you brought up Was interesting earlier about it being at Microsoft's because that would be huge for them And based off the crystal stuff that makes a lot of sense But I can see them kind of trying to divide
Starting point is 01:24:20 That makes a lot of sense, yeah Superiors are so hot and that would be I mean a reason for I think a lot of gamers They'd excited about Xbox 1 slash Scorpio Yeah That's a good one Tim. I like that Hmm Greg
Starting point is 01:24:32 What are you thinking about your next one earlier? Well Greg, question for you about the Roxanne If Roxady announces it's game at D3 Yeah. Do you think it'll be at Microsoft's or where would that be? It's a great question. You know what I mean? Like they do have a relationship with Sony.
Starting point is 01:24:45 I mean, the PlayStation VR deal. You know what I mean? That was that was rock steady proper. That was the guys. That was all the normal dudes and stuff and whatnot. Arkham Knight was at PlayStation, correct? I want to say yes.
Starting point is 01:24:56 That sounds right. It sounds right as well. But I mean, this is the thing. Microsoft's got to try, go really hard at it. Yeah. And especially if you do have Spider-Man there.
Starting point is 01:25:03 My final prediction for Xbox's conference. Phil Spencer shocks the world and stays in one, shirt under his blazer the whole time. Just one. Not going to do this whole thing. Not going to give it to the internet memes. Not going to be changing it up. All right. Just here's what I'm wearing and that's it. That's kind of a lame prediction. I like it. Andrew Renee, there are no lame predictions, just lame listeners.
Starting point is 01:25:22 Oh, okay. If you're a listener at home, I'm pointing at her. I mean, she's being, she's being. He's calling me a lame listener. I'm glad you went for a lame prediction because I'm in the world of lame predictions right now. Okay. So Microsoft's Bigger's, problem is that last year's like all the exclusive games they were pushing for the past couple of years either ended up being wet blankets or didn't come out you know between scale bound and recor and like like even even stuff like like gears four was good right and quantum break like
Starting point is 01:25:52 like i mean gis for was a good game but it didn't light the world on fire quantum break was a good game but it was too attached that tv game right it was had suffer from the same bomb the crack that did where it was made for a different machine and yeah different air pulled in a different way so i think they are going to have to announce a bunch of new games i'm not just sure if, I'm not sure if like the IP back catalog they have is good enough for like more sequels. Like I would, I kind of worry about a Gears War trilogy like I do about the new Halo, the second Halo trilogy where like I don't know if they have that really rich stuff. So I think they're going to announce in some form three new IPs. Wow. Okay. And in some sort of
Starting point is 01:26:30 they have a lot of studios still working on stuff. Like new franchises or games within an existing franchise. I don't want to rule out the idea that they might re-imagine a franchise that came at 15 years ago in some way, but like I think Oh, they will. Right. But I think they'll,
Starting point is 01:26:48 but I think there will be, you know, non-sequal exclusive games announced for the Xbox one, but like a lot of them. Like three at least. Three at least. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Interesting. I was also going to say...
Starting point is 01:27:02 Vague as well. I was also going to say, I was also going to say, I was just going to say a new AAA IP is announced because they need one. But instead, so I'm toying with the idea. I have two. I have two. I like this. So I'm just going to say that if it's taking one of yours, let me know. Okay.
Starting point is 01:27:19 It won't. The first one is like a simple one that I think is like a no-brainer for them, which is you can bring your custom controller to the Scorpio. Oh, yeah. They made a big push about making these customized controllers. It would not make sense if you could not use it. on Scorpio. Sure.
Starting point is 01:27:35 I think that'll be like an easy. I think all the, yeah. Any Xbox one controller or work around Scroo. Sure. The real prediction is we get a teaser of the next Halo game.
Starting point is 01:27:45 All right. Because we have to see Master Chief or something from 343. It's Xbox. They are synonymous. They go hand in hand. It's 3. I don't think it's going to be a big trailer. I don't think it's going to be gameplay.
Starting point is 01:28:00 It's going to be similar to the one where Chief was in the desert and had the poncho on, right? That was when they announced five. So Halo is an interesting thing. Last week we had, or two weeks ago, we had Sean Finninggan and Halo. And Alfredo here to talk about Halo. And we were talking about what we think is going to be shown. There's been a lot going on with 343 where they're talking about Halo 6 will not be at E3. Right.
Starting point is 01:28:20 They confirmed that. They also confirmed they're not doing the Halo 3 10 year anniversary, which would go against what they've done with the 10 year anniversary of 2 and 1. It's been 10 years. That's so exciting. Yeah. But they have Master Chief Collection. so they don't necessarily need to do that
Starting point is 01:28:35 because that already gave a lot of the upgrades that a new version would. Yellow War III. But, well, I don't know those Halo Wars, but they said that they are going to do something at E3. So my thing is, do we believe them? Like, I'm kind of with you where it's like, I can see them just announcing Halo 6,
Starting point is 01:28:50 like putting out some type of teaser. They said they're not going to, but people fucking lie all the time. You have to. Because I... Came the guy you caught us. Yeah, we're going to be there. Yeah, there's going to be some Halo in some form
Starting point is 01:29:00 and that could be some HoloN shit. It could be if there is VR, some VR experience or whatever. Halo VR, you guys. So I don't know. Just saying it could be a thing. It could. It could. But I don't think we're going to see Halo 6.
Starting point is 01:29:14 And I think that that's sad because they should. But whatever. My prediction, Microsoft needs some big shit. And without Halo or gears, they're lacking in that like exclusive huge shooter. And I almost feel like Halo or gears isn't enough anymore. I think Halo still is. Halo might be. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:37 Like the Halo's not what it used to be, but it's still leagues above in terms of sales. Well, losing the partnership with Call of Duty, I think, really hurt them. Absolutely. And also, PlayStation 4 is just kind of meteoric rise over the Xbox One in terms of sales. So it's just like that all by the third parties and stuff, that makes sense. But with Scorpio, they need to have some huge deal of this is an exciting thing to get PlayStation 4 gamers to, to buy an Xbox one. So I think that it is the Hail Mary
Starting point is 01:30:06 because there's not much that they have. Perfect Dark. Is it perfect dark carry the same? No. That it could. No, I think this new generation does not even know what Perfect Dark is.
Starting point is 01:30:17 But I think it's a perfect time to, it's a cool ass, like, franchise. And I think that while the last one was not good, I think that it's been long enough that they don't need to listen to any pre-existing things. And I think that they can Tomb Raider it in a lot of ways. and bring it back and make a huge deal out of it and make people care.
Starting point is 01:30:35 And I think that it could set itself apart from a lot of the other shooters that we have going on. Time Splitters gets an answer to Sony. Oh my God. That would be crashed Spandicoe levels for me of just a new fucking time splitter. Are you kidding me? You should just put a new show idea. Okay. He put Tim in like when you know they have those shows where you live in the 70s again and everything's the 70s.
Starting point is 01:30:56 Just put him in a room in like 2000 and like, yeah, 1999. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, perfect. I'm totally into it. I'm sure you would be. Yeah, but I think that they need to come back with some stuff and like they just don't have too many like big surprise things that they can come back with. Because yeah, the new IPs, they definitely need new IPs.
Starting point is 01:31:12 But I don't think that it's going to be a new IP that really converts a lot of people to the Scorpio. So I think that's something. And you think perfect dark is going to be the IP that converts people. I think that it is way more, when they don't have a halo. They have nothing like it. It's when they don't have a halo. I think you're crazy. I think there's so many gamers who have no idea what that game is.
Starting point is 01:31:30 like Tomb Raider is different because Tomb Raider is a gigantic IP that everybody knows. Even if you don't play video games, you know Tomb Raider. Yeah, but Perfect Dark, even if you didn't play it growing up, you've heard about it. You've heard like the, there's a historic legacy to it that even if you don't know that you feel. We should do a Twitter poll right now and see how many people have heard of Perfect Dark. The argument that I would make is that there's so many people that even if they didn't hear about it, the moment that they heard about it and everyone else is making a big deal, they're going to be like, oh shit, and they're going to fake and act like they, I think there's just been burned by that.
Starting point is 01:31:59 Because the 360 Perfect Dark and then the other Perfect Dark Well, that was it. That was it? I'm sorry. Then they did the remake on XBILA. So you were burned by both of them is what you're saying? Perfect Dark 1 was awesome. To me, Perfect Dark was one of those games that like people who didn't own a PC you thought
Starting point is 01:32:13 was good. Like, you guys are crazy. That's like. Oh my God. It was like... Perth dark, the problem was it was just trying to, I'm talking about N64 Perfect Dart, was just trying to chase what Golden I was. Right.
Starting point is 01:32:24 And by the time it got there, it just wasn't as good as golden out. PC gamers thought the same thing about Golden Night. There was no odd job. You were so... There was Elvis. The alien. Elvis. I don't remember him.
Starting point is 01:32:34 Oh, my God. Sorry to break your heart, but I mean. You're crazy. But I also think that like with the political climate where now, Joanna Dark being a female protagonist, games these days, like that, it's on trend. I think this makes a lot of sense. And I think that it could compete not with the halos, but it could be more on the, like, horizon level of properties for Xbox.
Starting point is 01:32:53 And I think that that is an exciting announcement when they don't really have much. You know what they, I mean, with this argument, they should just. bring wet. They should buy wet. Wet too. Wetter. No, no. You don't call, yeah, wetter. That's a better one. I just, yeah, I feel like they don't know what they're doing with their old licenses, like even Dead Rising. Like, in a time where they didn't have that many exclusive, like, things to really cherish, they kind of dropped the ball on Dead Rising. Like, it was a fine game. But they're beyond the point of having needing fine games. Yeah, you can't have fine games on that's all it's coming out. Exactly. All right, now that we're done the predictions on Xbox. Is there any last statements on Xbox? Yes, I think we'll hear about more about the Xbox Game Pass. Oh, yeah. That's a quote. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:30 I think we're going to hear a lot about it, actually. I think that they, I think they'll spend as much time talking about it as they did about backwards compatibility a couple of years ago. And I think that they're going to knock it out of the park. They're going to bring some really big titles to Game Pass because as much as I think, you know, the games with gold and the PlayStation Plus free games every month are a fantastic added value to your subscription. I think a lot of the games they bring to those programs are so old that it doesn't even
Starting point is 01:33:57 matter that you get them for free because no one really wants to play. play them anyway. I think they're going to bring some really good recent games. They're exclusives to the game pass that will incentivize
Starting point is 01:34:08 people to buy. You mean really big games like the Master Chief Collection with Scorpio support? Because that would fucking kill. Yeah. It absolutely. That's their halo game then.
Starting point is 01:34:16 Yeah. I mean, honestly, that I could totally see that happen. They're going to come out. They're going to talk hardware straight away. It's going to be 15 minutes
Starting point is 01:34:24 of this is the score. I mean, that's what they need to do and then they need to talk about games. Like, if that's not the way this goes down, then they're in big trouble. This is kind of like a last swing for them for this generation. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:35 Like, they need to pull momentum in the opposite direction. Absolutely. Final topic. The third party conferences. Ooh. Specifically the conference. So specifically, we're talking about Bethesda, Ubisoft, and electronic cards. EA on a Saturday.
Starting point is 01:34:51 What is wrong with you? Jerks. They're speaking to the real gamers, not you ivory tower, jernos. Kick it off, Greg. I'm going to get there before anybody else can. The Evil Within 2 is announced at Bethesda's conference October 2017. That was my number one. Three years later.
Starting point is 01:35:09 I think we all had that on our list. Why not? Let's just get it out of the way then. Wolfenstein new game. Yeah. Announced. Is it going to be called whatever the Giants or whatever the Colossus? New Colossus.
Starting point is 01:35:20 Sure. Is that what they? That's what got hinted at in their press conference last year when they did like the booting up sequence. So do we think those are the two though? because the press, the invite went out. It's been leaked all over the place. And it has, but there's the land. Under construction.
Starting point is 01:35:35 Right? They're two under construction. It looks like two. Under construction areas. Do we think that's it? Like, that's what I'm interesting seeing as we go around. Yeah, definitely. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:42 I mean, I think it makes sense. I mean, we could potentially see a new IP from them, but they just released prey this year. So that was a new IP for them. I don't know why they would necessarily want to be promoting another new IP in the same year. But you never know. I think about something. I don't think it'll be like fallout shelter levels,
Starting point is 01:36:00 but that was some cool fun thing we didn't see coming. Do you, does anyone else have any other Bethesda predictions? Yes. Okay. Yes. Okay, cool. We'll talk about this later.
Starting point is 01:36:09 Okay. So my, um, prediction, this is kind of like my pipe dream prediction. Finally, after years of tormenting us, beyond good and evil two. My prediction,
Starting point is 01:36:25 beyond and evil two will not be out of you three. Nice. Then it's in production. Yeah, I know. Time and time again that they're working on it. Like, this is another Cuphead moment, except it's worse than Cuphead. Because at least we've seen gameplay from Cuffhead. But like, they've been talking about it and they've never once said it's canceled.
Starting point is 01:36:43 They haven't said that it's not being worked on. They've said that they're working on it. What did I show? Gameplay or trailer? I mean, I think it's a trailer. I mean, if we're talking pipe dream since we are, it would be like a gameplay trailer. something short but like a little
Starting point is 01:37:01 if this were to happen what consoles do you think it comes to all of them including the switch yes especially so not a switch exclusive though no that would be dumb I don't believe
Starting point is 01:37:13 I think the switch is doing great but if you don't bring your game especially to PS4 and to Xbox 1 like why would you not we're talking about tens of millions of units of consoles around the world so of course But I think this comes to
Starting point is 01:37:29 You play as well. I think it's PC, I think it's console. I think it's Switch. Yeah. Okay. I would love to see it and that would be hype as fuck
Starting point is 01:37:38 but I don't think it would see it. No, I mean, in my heart of hearts, I don't believe this to be true. One of my predictions is Beyond and Evil team will not be there. I would like to see it. Finally,
Starting point is 01:37:47 come on, U.B. Help me out. I'm going to jump to my I like that one. I like that one. And we'll skip me the next time. Okay.
Starting point is 01:37:54 Mario Rabbits Kingdom Battle. It's going to be focused on they'll show it at the Ubisoft thing and the Nintendo thing. But my prediction is it's going to look way better than it has any right to. There's been so much hate. Everyone's saying this looks like fucking shit. Why would you do this? Why the hell are they combining the rabbits and Mario?
Starting point is 01:38:09 Even I'm like, what the fuck? That doesn't make sense. I think the game's going to be good. And I think that that will be clear at E3. Okay. All right. My number two. Ubisoft reveals their next UBiart game from Ubisoft, Mount Pillier. The game is coming from Ubisoft where?
Starting point is 01:38:26 Mount Pillier. Oh, my impiliar. Yeah, yeah. Jen got real upset when I pronounced it that way, so I double down, and also I'm stupid. The game is coming before the fall. Okay.
Starting point is 01:38:35 I think we're going on with the Valiant Hearts right with this one, right? Where it's like, got it announced Eddie 3, and it was out like a month and a half later. I was like, that's fucking red. Valiant Hearts 2. Okay. We're still in the war. World War II, man.
Starting point is 01:38:46 Save the dog. Activision can do it. Yeah, right? He can do it too. Am I up? Yes. Assassin's Creed Origins coming out in October. D.
Starting point is 01:38:59 Okay. Not Assassin's Creed Empire. Sorry, Empire. No, no, no, you said it. You said origins. You did. Empire. Assassin's Creed Egypt coming out.
Starting point is 01:39:09 Hold on, isn't it actually origins? We don't know. Didn't you put out origins recently? I think everyone thought it was Empire and then they on their like financial call. I can't remember. In my, in the back of my gray matter, origins was the one that I remember. We just did the story today.
Starting point is 01:39:27 I'm pretty sure Orgins is the official title from Ubisoft. And that's out there. Yo, Tuton Kamun, Nile, ass, Assassin's Creed. Uh-huh. That's going to come out of October. There you go. I'm fucking into it. I think that's what's going to.
Starting point is 01:39:38 Well, who's the protagonist? Tutankan, I don't know anyone else from Egypt. There's a lot of rumors that it is a female protagonist. Okay. Do you think that's true? No. No. As much as I would like it to be true, I don't think it's true.
Starting point is 01:39:52 Maybe you get to choose your own. Maybe it's a far cry. You can choose you. I don't know. They've left. You haven't gotten to choose your own with Far Cry. In a new one, you can't. Right?
Starting point is 01:40:02 Far Cry 5. I haven't heard that. I don't think so. No. Really? I think you can choose race and gender. Where did you hear that? No, what's it called?
Starting point is 01:40:09 Yeah, Far Cry 5. Far Cry 5? Far Cry 5? Far cry Montana. No, they haven't said that? I'm pretty sure to say that. Wait, who, who said that? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:40:17 It wasn't your podcast, obviously. I mean, we were both of the same pre-3, but they didn't say that there. My prediction is that in Far Cry 5. Yeah, I'll throw that one out as well. I mean, they'll show it. Yeah, I think it'll be front and center for Ubisoft will be the new Assassin's Creed, whatever it's called. Yeah, definitely.
Starting point is 01:40:37 Assassin's cream, whatever it's. Wait, so what's your actual prediction? October is the prediction. Yeah. I mean, that's a pretty. Rumor looks like it is his origins. Okay. It is origins.
Starting point is 01:40:46 It is or a rumor? That is the rumor. Well, that's the rumor. It's a rumor. Yeah. They still announce anything, anything anywhere, have they? They sent out an email saying like, that had the Far Cry 5, low.
Starting point is 01:40:55 logo and the... But it just said Assassin's Creed. It didn't say, it didn't have a subtitle. Maybe it's just called Assassin's Creed. We're going to reset it. Oh my God, we're going back. Like prey. Origins is such a stupid ass name for it.
Starting point is 01:41:07 Every Assassin's Creek game is not a stupid name. But Origins at this point, it's like, that is the most overused subtitle for a game ever. What are we're going to call it next one, Assassin's Creed legacy? Come on, guys. Yeah. That's why when you said Origins,
Starting point is 01:41:21 I actually did rethink that maybe it has already come out because there are there is so many origins. May screenshot link was accompanied by news the game may be called Assassin's Creed origin. An earlier report pointed to an Egyptian setting and a title, Assassin's Creed Empire that appears to have since changed. This is GameSpot.com. Okay.
Starting point is 01:41:37 You ever heard of them? Yeah, they're great. Now like a Far Cry 5 female. Here's my second prediction. Byer Edmonton has been working on a new IP codenamed Dylan. We will find out the true name of this IP and we will see. A teaser trailer. That's a goodie.
Starting point is 01:41:57 That's a goodie. I like that. EA's always interesting. They're fucking unpredictable. There's certain things that are very predictable. There's some mobile bullshit. There'll be a lot of sports and weird celebrity cameos. Let me tell you about soccer.
Starting point is 01:42:10 Yeah. For way too long. I mean, obviously, sports is going to dominate their conference as well, Star Wars, but I think we'll get a teaser. I don't think EA play will have anything from BioWare at it. I think, though, that Dave, this team has, been working on this for a long time. And it's time to maybe plant a seed about what it is.
Starting point is 01:42:31 Okay. Before it leaks. Yeah. So staying in the EA world, my prediction is we will see a trailer of one of the single player Star Wars games coming out that's not battlefront. So either Amy Henne or the respawn one. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:45 The, I feel like the Amy Hannegg one. There's more sense because the response sounds way out there. Katako. What? Kataku. You say kataku Kataku
Starting point is 01:42:57 Catacu.com Steven Tatillo and his article about Far Cry 5 and then is bolt point information in the change for the series
Starting point is 01:43:04 you can choose to play as a man or a woman and pick your skin color you're a junior deputy on the police force you got one of the predictions right though how you wound up
Starting point is 01:43:10 and hope County is a secret so yeah I totally I think I got that from somebody else's article of like this is announcement
Starting point is 01:43:17 Stephen asked the question so I think it might have been afterwards in an interview he followed up with it because yeah the presentation we saw I never made a reference to that. Why would you not put that in your presentation
Starting point is 01:43:26 after how much flak Ubisoft has been getting about not having any female characters? Gamergate. Hide it. Don't let them come for you. Let him come. I was joking. My third prediction?
Starting point is 01:43:41 This is a blanket one. But I feel it. I feel it on my balls, Tim. This is the year. One of these companies announces, The Rock is in their video game. What? Yes.
Starting point is 01:43:53 The Rock is in the video game world. It's happening. The Rock is voicing a character in some EA Ubisoft game. So he's not himself in a video game. No, no, he's playing, he's a character. He's playing somebody in this game. I just, I can't see it. That's a bombshell announcement.
Starting point is 01:44:08 My thing is, if it was anybody, it'd be Call of Duty. You know? Like what, what franchise would actually get the Rock? He just did Moana. Come on. It's not about the franchise. Yeah, but do you know how much money Disney has? Disney has a lot of money.
Starting point is 01:44:22 Yeah, this guy's going to be. president someday. He's got a lot of money. Let's launch a new franchise. Let's do something cool and the rock will be the star of the game. It's not that crazy. I mean, I can see him being down and him wanting to do it,
Starting point is 01:44:34 but it would have to be a rock star game or a rock star game. No. Rockstar goes for unknowns. Yeah. Doesn't use like AILA's talent. With the exception of the video shot at the main dude, he would just be the fucking there. All right.
Starting point is 01:44:47 I'm just letting you know. Don't you all be crying come Monday afternoon when all the third parties have happened. It turns off the rocks. all the games. Every game. Danny? Oh, God. Okay, I've gone too obvious
Starting point is 01:44:59 with some of these ones, so I better mix it up a little bit. All right, so we know there's no new battlefield game coming out this year. They haven't said anything about what they're doing next, right? They haven't said. We don't know what's going on past
Starting point is 01:45:08 Battlefield 1. So either, either they go then they go Battlefield 1 and then they do World War II the next time around. But then that seems a little bit weird for them to do it
Starting point is 01:45:22 right after Call of Duty goes back to the, to the trenches. So do I put my hat on battlefield? Yeah, I'm going to say, I'm going to say they announced the new battlefield. And it's either going to be World War II or 2142. Got it. But do you really do they're going to talk about Battlefield when they have Battlefront coming this year? Like, I feel like Battlefield. It's not going to come out this year.
Starting point is 01:45:47 Yeah, but I feel like it's more of like an announce it next year for release the end of year type thing. I don't think they would want to cross the streams, as it were. Right. I agree, but I'm sticking with it. All right. I respect that. You said it, he's sticking with it. The rest of my list is too obvious.
Starting point is 01:46:02 I'm running out of shit, man. I've got an EA prediction that I hope no one has thought of, but once I say, you're going to be like, oh, shit, yeah. Sims 4 on console. Oh, fuck. That's a good one. They did it with the Sims 3. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:19 Only makes sense. It had a great run on PC. bring it to PS4 and Xbox 1 and to switch. Sims 4. That's a very safe bet. So that was one of the ones that's been brought down to Redwood, right? Because Maxus has shut down. So that's been operating there for a while.
Starting point is 01:46:34 Redwood Shores, yeah. I feel like I feel like I've seen a bunch of people who work at that studio leave over the past year. I'm not sure. In my head, that's what was happening. Well, they go home at night. They come back home. That would be cool. Well, I mean, I'm not saying that they're bringing new, like lots of new content.
Starting point is 01:46:50 But I think it makes sense. for them to port this to console. It's a hugely popular franchise for EA. Like why would you not bring this to console? You think switch? Yes, I do. No way. I would be totally into that.
Starting point is 01:47:04 That would be cool. I mean, I think they'd love to. I just don't think it can run it. You don't think so. Yeah. It's just little people. I know, you'd be surprised. But I remember playing, every time I play the Sims
Starting point is 01:47:12 on a console, I'm like, to all this ain't running as good as it should be, let alone the switch. All right. We shall see. That's a good one. I like that. We'll see Saturday. It's not this.
Starting point is 01:47:23 Do you. Don't worry. Did you just a live event for 1,200 people? No, we deal. Let's see. Um, the last one I got that it hasn't already been used is Ubisoft. You know, they've been released a lot of games. We know a lot of what they got coming, but they like to announce games at E3.
Starting point is 01:47:40 Like there's usually some surprise or some new announcement. I think it's time for Splinter Cell. Oh my God. Because the get hyped thing for me would be Prince of Persia, but that's not happening, especially with Assassin's Creed in Egypt. in Egypt. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah. But Splinter Cell. Oh, that's a really good one.
Starting point is 01:47:56 Splinter Cell, that's a good one. It's Michael Larson. They do need some Tom Clancy coming. Yeah, exactly. Like, and I feel like it's, it's time for Splinter Cell to come back because we've seen so much of the other stuff over the last couple years.
Starting point is 01:48:08 And like, when was the last Splinter Cell game? Because there was a while where... Double agent? There was way too many of them. Right. Like, I think every year they were coming out. There wasn't one on Xbox one. 360 was a double.
Starting point is 01:48:18 Yeah, there was no Xbox one. It was really good as well. I'm trying to look this up. I'm trying to think what, God, yeah. That's a really good shout, actually. No, I don't think it was that, I don't think it was that long ago. Really? It must have been.
Starting point is 01:48:29 Oh, did they release that? Oh, they released that one that didn't have the main guy in it. Remember, they released the weird one that came out. It was like barely Splinter Cell. The Splinter Cell. Blacklist. When was that? Because they changed, what's the name of Splinter Cell guy again?
Starting point is 01:48:44 2012. Sam Fisher. Sam Fisher. No, 2013. Hold on. Let me look. Either way, that's a long time ago. Daryl Fisher.
Starting point is 01:48:50 They changed the character. I think so. Yeah. August, 2013. Yeah. That's, I think it's time.
Starting point is 01:48:56 And it went down, it was like Mirzad catalyst. It was like it was not the return that everyone wanted. So, that's a really good shout. I like that one. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:05 Is this final one? Fucking hope so. No, I thought we had two more, don't we? Fuck, I really hope. We do have two more. Can we expand this outside of EA? These three pubs?
Starting point is 01:49:16 Yeah. Oh, so you mean outside, so you mean getting outside of press conferences just at the show. Yeah. Huh. Sure. It's a game changer.
Starting point is 01:49:26 Well, I have one more Bethesda prediction. But go ahead, Greg. Well, no, I like where you're going with this because my last, I have one week prediction you'd make fun of me for. And then one prediction that I know won't happen, but I wrote it down.
Starting point is 01:49:42 Yeah, exactly. Okay. I'm going to still shout it up. I don't think this has happened. It's a dream world thing, all right? EA opens with Star Wars Battlefront 2 and closes. with the visceral slash Amy Hennig Star Wars game.
Starting point is 01:49:54 But I don't think they'll double dip on Star Wars that way. I think they'll be like, Battlefront. Battlefront is what you want to talk about. Yeah, spit roast, yeah. But that'd be cool if it is. That's a prediction. That's fun. There you go.
Starting point is 01:50:02 Okay. This is like a prediction I don't want to happen. But Betheseth is in like a real weird spot because I feel like, I feel like Doom 2 is a no-brainer, but they won't talk about it this year. I bet that's like super early, but I think that's a no-brainer for them. Todd Howard's team, whatever they're working on, they like to do the whole, yo, it's coming out in three months time, which I guess they can sort of popularize it again.
Starting point is 01:50:24 I don't necessarily think that's going to happen either. They just did that for Fallout 4. I mean, when they originally announced the Elder Scrolls 5, they announced that way out in advance. So I don't think it's those. So I don't think it's those. So what they're going to end up leaning on a lot is stuff we already know about.
Starting point is 01:50:44 One of those is Quake Champions. And I don't think that's been announced for consoles. They've said it's PC only. I think after playing a baller. bunch of the beta that they could get away but bring it down the console. And I think Tim Willis was like no way. I know. He told me it's not coming to console.
Starting point is 01:51:00 Unless they, I mean, unless there's some kind of crazy shift, like he was like this game cannot run on console. But but okay. But maybe maybe the shareholders
Starting point is 01:51:16 are like, well Tim, you might think that, but it's going to come out on console. I'm scraping that barrel. Trying my best. My prediction for Bethesda is no Elder Scroll 6. Instead, we will hear about ESO and legends. Their MMO and their card game.
Starting point is 01:51:34 But we will not hear about the next installment of the Elder Scrolls. There's been rumors of an anniversary edition of Moro Wend. Of Moro Wind? God. Well, I mean, they released the Moro Wind expansion for ESO. Right. Right? That's out now?
Starting point is 01:51:48 I'm pretty sure. Pretty sure. Yeah. Let me double check. Those scrolls lines are really well for them. I feel like that's the same case. I feel it's weird. This E3 to me feels like a holding pattern for loads of people.
Starting point is 01:52:01 Like Microsoft's going to concentrate on the hardware stuff. Sony's already had a really good year and they're going to double down on their game stuff. Switch is building. Like a lot of the really exciting stuff. June 6. Okay. It comes out. Sorry, we're playing special delivery.
Starting point is 01:52:15 Like there's so much more stuff that's going to come out from the third party section. I feel the same way about like something like cyberpunk where in the same way that like ESO is really big for them. Like this is the year for Gwent and it's also the 10 year anniversary of Witcher this year. So I feel like they're just gonna sit on that and then next year we're gonna get that big announcement. I feel like Bethes is in the same spot like that. So that sounds like yeah, maybe Marowind. So I'm all done with the predictions for the conferences. But so for jumping into just third party in general. Kunami.
Starting point is 01:52:44 Oh yeah. Oh this is one I write down. Yeah. Metal Gear survive. Yeah. I mean We haven't seen it for so long, I think that it'll be here. Did we see it? We just saw that trailer. It was the little game-stop thing. Yeah, I think it'll be there. If it's not, then... Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:53:04 Really, that's... The other, the crazy thing for the Konami could do would be Castlevania, but I don't think that they would. There's a Netflix series out. People are hyped about that, but like, people just don't like Konami. I don't know. I don't think they're interested in making... Well, they're on the E3 exhibitor list, so...
Starting point is 01:53:21 they have space at E3. I mean, obviously they have, yeah, well, they have Pez. So, yeah. So I think we have to see something from them from Metal Gear. Yeah, Metal Gear Survive then. I'm so interested in that game. Like, I know, like, there's so much hate going on for it for obvious reasons.
Starting point is 01:53:38 But, I mean, I, the system of Metal Gear Solid 5 is so good. And just imagining, like, playing more of that multiplayer. Like, I think the game could be fun. Having said that, fuck the whole situation. Yeah. No, I think you're right. I think if they're ever going to talk about a game, it's going to be that. I don't think they're going to go down the route of, like, so much of that game with its architecture and the engine and everything.
Starting point is 01:53:57 I mean, they even use that engine in Pro Evolution there as well. Like, a lot of that work has been done, and it's a really strong foundation. So, like, it's kind of easier for them to go down the path of doing that spin-off than it is for them to tackle it. Like, Castlevania, all over there. So, I'm going to piggyback off that. But I'll tell you my bullshit fifth one, because I was just, like, on the press conferences. I said, U.E's going to make a big deal about its new logo. Oh, God.
Starting point is 01:54:20 awful. And I do believe they're going to be up there and they're going to give you the whole press conference thing. What we're doing is it means that blah, blah, blah, blah. But here's my thing. I think that, yeah, I think Metal Gear, I thought it was, whatever, Metal Gear survived. I just assumed it's going to be there. I jeans articles the same way of like, we assume it's going to be there. So whatever. It's going to be there. And I think it's going to actually be good. I think people are going to come back and be like, oh, it was actually fun. Fuck. What do we do? Because we hate Kanabi, but this game was good. Yep. I, yeah, I think that game was getting railroaded a little bit hard, even based on what they showed.
Starting point is 01:54:52 People are just pissed, and rightly so. But, you know, people making that game aren't the people who fired Hia Khadjima either. So, you know, I think, I think, I can imagine being on that team and trying to make a really good job of that. Yeah. If your backs up against the wall. You have any more predictions?
Starting point is 01:55:06 Fuck, no. Do you? I think we'll see Matt and Trey on stage at Ubiza. Oh, you think? That's dangerous. What do you mean? Because it slipped so many times. No, but they have, I mean, okay, I know that they've had a, oh, it's, okay, I know
Starting point is 01:55:18 that they've had a hard release date before. They have, this new release date is October 17th. This fall, I think Ubisoft loves having celebrities on their E3 stage. I think they've kind of realized that, hey, we shouldn't waste our money booking a big musical act for Just Dance because the audience at E3 could give too fuck. Do you think they realize that? No, they do because last year they didn't. They had like the crazy clown color. Wasn't Jason Derrillo there though? No, he was the year before. So last year was the brilliant Ubisoft. conference out of the giraffe and here's some gameplay sit down and talk to me about it all right here's some more what are you fucking doing choose one conference last year horrible
Starting point is 01:55:56 sucked yeah it was weird um I wouldn't say it sucks long um it was too long and it was I mean I think that there was just too much awkwardness and now they're like double downing on the awkwardness is like something that they want in their conference and I think that that's the wrong move I think they need to get away from that and go back to cool making it cool I love having guest there, but I was always the only one, like, out of my seat in dancing. Because all these, like, jaded journalists who are like, ugh, this is like the third conference. You and hip-hop gamer.
Starting point is 01:56:32 No, Sony is his thing. I think that, you know, they need to get their celebrity on stage in another way. And obviously, you know, South Park is huge for them. And the community loves South Park. The first game did really well for them. And we're going to see them on stage. It's Los Angeles. They're already there.
Starting point is 01:56:52 That's a solid bet. Is Ishtader hosting this year? Did we know? That's what I was looking for. No confirmation. Yeah, is what I've been able to dig up. Even though, or really, if I'm being honest, asshole fucking article from IG in India about it.
Starting point is 01:57:05 The fucking seven embarrassing occurrences to expect at E32017. Number one is Aisha Tyler, at least the first one they list. Look, we love Aisha Tyler and Archer. When she's being interviewed, she comes across as a goofy, nerdy, and pretty chill person. On stage is a host at Ubisoft's E3 pressers. She's arguably the worst thing imaginable. I disagree.
Starting point is 01:57:24 What? Have they disagreed? I disagree entirely. Mr. Caffeine. Yeah, exactly. I know.
Starting point is 01:57:28 There's a million worst fucking presenters I can think of. Like, Aisha rolls with the punches and I actually knows what she's talking about. And she can't talk shit about it too. Like, yeah. That's garbage. I just don't want them to build the awkward in like how she sat down with that
Starting point is 01:57:41 random guy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We don't need any of that. Just like show us the games. You have a really cool. slate of games coming up.
Starting point is 01:57:49 That was what we talked about last year. The games were good. They were just presented so poorly and so long. What was being said was great. It just took so long to do it. And like when they did the bridge crew thing and came back out and they did it again, it's like, oh, no. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:05 All right. Okay, I've maybe got one in there. Just talking about Ubisoft. And do we think of all, they are, they get dragged into, not maybe not dragged into, they put themselves into interesting forms. of like debate around, you know, representation and culture in games, right? Do you think they come out and actually address
Starting point is 01:58:23 any of the Far Cry 5 stuff, like directly in any sort of way? In E3 interviews, sure. Not on stage, yeah. Maybe on like the IGN stage or the GameSpot stage or like Kiwi stage or whatever, right? Like they might have that actual conversation about it, but there's no way that they're doing it at a press conference.
Starting point is 01:58:42 They don't have to. No, why would they? Yeah. All right. Any final statements? Kingdom Hearts 3 will not be shown any 3. Dude, they've shown it so much at E3 in a way that doesn't make fucking sense.
Starting point is 01:58:57 Like, why? Why do they keep showing it? Just fucking make it. Please. Thank you guys for joining us. This has been a lot of fun. Let us know in the comments what you think's going to happen at E3, 2017. You can watch our Twitch stream,
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