Kinda Funny Gamescast: Video Game Podcast - Fallout Spoilercast - Kinda Funny Gamescast

Episode Date: April 30, 2024

Lucy James joins the boys for a spoiler-filled reaction to the Amazon series. Run of Show - - Start & Our History w/ Fallout - Housekeeping - Overall Thoughts - Spoiler Talk - Ad - What Can Game Adaptations Learn from Fallout? - Mike’s BURNING Questions - The Fallies Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Two, the kind of funny games cast for Tuesday, April 30th, 2024. Of course, I am Tim Geddes with a star studded cast. We have the new face of video games. Blessing Adio Yeo-Yeat Jr. War never changes. We have Lucy James herself, Lucy James. Okay, dokey. We have the Big Daddy, Greg Miller.

Yeet! And the Master of Hype, Snow Bike, Mike. No, yeat. No, come on. No yeat, Mike. Dose one up. He's throwing the ones up. Throwing one.

Come on. How you doing? Bless. doing pretty good. Yeah. Very excited for this conversation. It's been many weeks coming. Fallout, spoiler cast, the entire show will be covered,

obviously in full spoiler form. Real quick, though, Bless. What is your history with Fallout? My first fallout game was Fallout 3. It quickly fell in love with it. That was like, what, maybe right as I left to the vault in that game, it was a thing of, oh, man, this is actually magic.

Like, this is a bigger game than I thought it was. It was funny. Like, my story of buying that game at the store was seeing it at GameStop over and over again and not really knowing much of what Fallout was and looking up reviews and it was like it was in that like $10 been at GameStop

What a steal. Yeah. It was just like 2011 or some shit like 2012 but it was like between buying that and buying Fallout New Vegas and I think reviews convince me to buy Fallout 3 because I think New Vegas was just buggy launch and so it didn't get as like good reviews and so I pick it up

Paul 3 ran flawlessly. Exactly. On PlayStation especially. So I pick it up thinking that it was just going to be just a first person shooter. And I start playing it. I'm like, oh, this is way more than a first person shooter. And I just fell in love with it. And then, yeah, since then, you know, played for, I've been slowly playing through New Vegas. I feel like for the last decade where I'll pick it up and just not get that far with it. I've been playing it again

recently coming off of the fallout show. But yeah, I really did fallout. It was probably one of my favorite gaming franchises at this point. Lucy, what about you? Oh, no. I, so I'm not really a big Fallout person. I think because I played Skyrim first and then I thought, okay, well I'll go back, I'll try Fallout, went to Fallout 3, didn't really vibe with it. New Vegas didn't really vibe with it. I also blame that on the fact that I just have no attention span anymore

and I think I had just less of a tolerance. I didn't play them when they came out so I don't have that love really surrounding it. So I am very familiar with Fallout as a franchise because you can't work in gaming and not be. Played Fallout for a bunch when that came out

to different you know, Fallout 4 at launch was interesting. Never played 76, but I did play a bunch of 76 last week, but I do really, really want to play New Vegas now. And I've seen H. Bomber guys video

on Fallout 3 and New Vegas. So I'm the person who's like, who's not the Fallout fan. Yeah. But who loves the show? Oh. So then the big question is this, Lucy, are you going to,

and we've been friends a long time, we're family, you're the godmother and my son, Are you not going to fumble the bag this year? Because I told you last year, maybe the year before that, you got to be Captain Carter for Halloween. It's the perfect Halloween costume for you. Now being Lucy from Vault 33 is the perfect costume for you.

I already thought, don't worry. No, as soon as I started to watch that show and I was like, oh, this is. How many of them are going to show up to Halloween wearing the vault dweller suit? I plan to. Kind of funny, vault party would actually be. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's really good, actually.

Like, I mean, my hair's a bit longer now. I can just do the thing that I curl it at the bottom. Yeah. I can, yeah, I don't know. I'll do it. Okay, great, cool, cool. All right, thank you. I appreciate that.

Thank you very much. I love that. Greg, what about you? Uh, you know, I'm old as you know. So I remember, uh, Fallout 3 being my introduction to the series and what it was. And I mean, I remember the first E3 demo where it was that everybody came, everybody from IG and wanted to go to it. And then when they, when the first wave did, and they were like, this thing is

incredible. Everybody's got to go play it. all went over there. And I remember getting to go over there. If you remember Fall at 3 well, you'll remember the character, Colin Moriarty. And I remember getting to go over there

with Colin in this group. And everybody, like, they thought Bethesda, I think Todd was there and thought IGN was pulling a prank on them. Because like, that's how old we all were and how young we all were,

I guess at the time, right? But played it there, was amazed, played it at launch. I remember Charles on Yet, of course, you know, the PC gaming god,

talking about how amazing it was and all these different things. And he reviewed it, I do believe. And yeah, diving, into it and getting lost. And that was a game that was like the everlasting gobstopper for so long, where it was like long after my journey to find Liam Neeson had been completed. It was still going

out there and finding new things. And, you know, it's such an interesting look back to go that far back into history where wikis weren't the thing, right? And IGN wasn't doing a lot. They had guide content, but it wasn't like, we're putting this on the front page. We're talking about the top 10 these straighters doing these different things. And so to be able to be months into Fallout 3 being out and play it and find new things and find new characters and still have that, I'm just going to walk that way. What happens if I walk that way? What will I find and have those rewarding experiences? It made me a Bethesda fan from there on out of what they do and how they do it. Mike. Yeah, just like everybody else, I'm a fallout boy. I've been playing Fallout for a long,

long time. I will never forget freshman year of college, all of us jamming in to Matt's dorm room and watching him play Fallout 3. Hell yeah, Matt. Getting Stony, Bologna and just having so much fun. We would go Fallout 3 into skate two sessions where we would just battle and skate and it was the best

combo ever. And then I played Fallout New Vegas. I played Fallout 4. I am a big advocate for Fallout 76. Me and my best friend Kevin A.S.X. Have played a ton of it. I am happy to say that I am a nuclear winter number one winner. That's a battle royale win for me. Not many people can say that. I won that. And so yeah, I love fallout. I'm a big fan of all things Bethesda. And to see the show come to life and how they nailed it, I'm very happy and excited.

I've been chasing the high, obviously, since fallout. You know, just like Lucy, I downloaded New Vegas on Steam Deck for five bucks, game of year edition. I've started New Vegas a lot, but I've never ever fallen in love with it. So I'm hopefully, I'll get there eventually. But then, of course, next gen patch jumped in there with my Taylor Swift, 9B6. six hour save. I opened it up and like, I have no fucking idea. I was like, went back, restarted a character, did the whole thing,

got out of the vault, had fun with it for a night. And then last night after talking to Todd, I was like, I got to see. Do my first, my, I'm sorry,

my third jump back into fallout 76. And I started fall out 76, went to the character, me and Blessed played with in 2021, opened that save, level 15. And I did two missions.

And I was like, God damn, it feels pretty good. Like, I'm gonna come back to 76. It's, you know, it's, you know, it's, whereas Fallout 4, I was so far into the world and so far and so post the story of what it was. I remember 76 and Reclamation Day and just being like, tame the wild.

And I remember playing that at launch and being like, oh, it's buggy, but it's enjoyable to it, but it's not this. And then when Bless and I came back when they added NPCs, I was like, all right, it feels a little bit more, but it still, the seams are showing. Last night, jump in.

I was shocked on PlayStation 5, how well it ran, how good it looked, Like the lighting effects. I was like, oh, my damn. All right, cool. And then yeah, I just like, did the thing. I'm like, all right, there's a mission over there. Ran into the park.

Talk to this robot that was a nanny. She's like, I just want to know what happened to my, the kid I was taking care of. I'm like, I'm on this. And it was like 45 minutes of an hour of doing the piece to piece, read the notes, see what happened, kill the super mutants. I was like, this feels good. And it was the way to drop back in, the way fought for was it for me.

Whereas I think tonight when I go back and drop back in, I'm excited for it. Come play with me. I'll play with you. Well, are you playing on PlayStation? I was going to say you're going to come on. Fallout 76 has a beautiful setting as opposed to New Vegas and Fallout 3, which are very barren wastelands.

Being in the West Virginia forest is beautiful, right? I love going through the hills. It's got that fall vibe to it. It feels so much different than the other games. I think that's what always draws me to that. It's just more of the color palette that they have going on. And again, coming from the show to Fallout 4 to 76 and talking to Todd yesterday,

it's the little things wasn't even noticing, right? Of like the, you know, of course, fall 76, you have like a tan motif to your pit boy. It looks different than the pit boy in four. So to go from four to this, every pit boy kind of feels and looks the same, right? But then to be in there like one night, do one and do the next. Like, oh, right, there is a different vibe to all of this. Yeah, it's interesting because Lucy, I have even less experienced than you when it comes to fallout. I have never played a follow game period. So watching the show, I finished it last night. It was really my first introduction to the franchise.

Like you said, being in the games industry, I know a lot about it. I am familiar with the iconography and the colors and the concepts of a lot of things, but there's a lot that I don't understand and I've just kind of like seen at a hot topic. You know what I mean? If I remember correctly, I think

that me and Colin did a let's play of the opening of one of the Fallout games. In like 2015 of early days, it's kind of funny. That was my only experience, in the game ever. So very excited to talk about this show. But we're not going to do that quite yet because I want to

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It's our Fallout Spoiler cast, everybody. Remember, you can super chat to be part of the show. If you agree or disagree with us, let us know via YouTube Super chats. I want to start, I want to start with Lucy. Yeah. What did you think of the Fallout show? I really

liked it. I think, right, So I don't know if you know this, but I used to cover Westworld very, very extensively, West, over a game spot on an entertainment brand. And so when I saw that Jonathan Nolan and Lisa Joy were attached to this, I was like, okay, you've got my attention. I'm not necessarily interested in Fallout, but they have a track record, at least doing two good seasons of a TV show. We don't talk about West World season three.

But I was like, I'm really into how they, you know, I think they carry a lot of weight in the fact that they were fans of the game. So I was like, okay, this is going to come from a really good place, I hope. And then I was watching the show and I was just like, the characters feel really good, like, in terms of how they are, how they're motivated. It has that quirky humor. I think in terms of the actual set design, it's not, there is obviously a lot of CG in it, but it's not over the top to a way where it looks.

A lot of it's practical. A lot of it is practical. A lot of it's practical. And it's, I love that. I miss that. and it makes it look, gives it a sense of place, makes it look and feel really authentic. And I really enjoy it.

Some people I was talking to didn't enjoy how many music drops there were. Really? But I was like, oh, I think that's Fallout. That's Fallout, though. So overall, I was just like, in terms of the whole package, I was really into it. I liked that there was that compelling mystery,

like what is in Vault 31? Because that's such a big deal in Fallout. And like, every vault is pretty much an experiment. And there's always something really creepy and messed up. And I want to know what it is. And I think they really towed the line with that mystery really well. And then when they started incorporating flashback stuff and fitting it in in really great ways in like how Walton Goggins character, how you see him change in particular, like he's not just this one

dimensional. He reminded me a lot of the man in black from Westworld. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like that Ed Harris's character in the same way. And I was just like, I really like the way that it's, you know, the three different, I did see a comparison to this on Twitter. This is a long rambling one, I'm sorry. The three. What kind of funny. But it was like, I really like the fact that it was like Lucy's character. is the do-gooding player. Maximus is kind of like the morally gray in between, and then the ghoul is just like,

I'm just gonna shoot up everything and mess everything around. I really like that because, you know, I play like Lucy all the time. I'm a little do-gooder, and then eventually maybe I'll do like a renegan run. But I liked it. They had three different viewpoints. I love the way they intersected, but my main thing is that I love that they use

my favorite little freak guy, Ben Linus from Loss Michael Emerson as the doctor. When I saw him, I was so happy. That was a great drop, yeah. What a great character pick. Overall, I loved it. I don't think there was actually anything that I really disliked about it. And I'm having a really difficult time with TV in general at the moment, just like actually committing to watching something.

And Fallout being eight episodes, all killer, no filler for me. I was, yeah, I blasted through it in like three days. I loved it. Mike, I want to go to you. What did you think of the Fallout show? You know, we did the review. just a couple weeks ago, and I gave it a five out of five. I loved this adaptation.

I thought it was an absolute blast. I really stick with Lucian what they talked about. I think the casting was great. Every single character that you saw throughout that fit the role so well, and I got to give a shout out to the brother. I mean, Norm, that guy, you look at him, you're like, you are Norm, and you're so perfect as Norm. And so the casting really carried a lot of it for me,

but the sets all looked beautiful. That iconic blue and yellow vault suit will always pop on screen for me. and how they told a story in the fallout sandbox that isn't a retelling of a story we already have, they did a fantastic job with that. And now that it's the spoiler cast, we can finally talk about it. It's like,

I love that, of course, it's just like every other fallout of, how do we get out of the vault? Oh my God, my dad is taken. I got to leave the wall. Now we can finally talk about that.

We couldn't talk about it last time, but that did make me smile of when we first, like, started talking about, oh, the fallout TV show, I was wondering, well, what is it going to be? Is it going to be,

hey, somebody stole my baby. Oh, my God. I got to go fire my dad in the wasteland. And sure enough, there it was. But I think they did such a good job at tying everybody in, giving us great callbacks to iconic characters, really cool locations, all of the different weapons, the foods,

the items that you see throughout the game, they nailed everything. So for me, I had a big smile on my face throughout all of it. I thought they did a fantastic job. Right up there with The Last of Us, way better than Halo as a big Xbox fan. I am happy to see a positive here in the video game world

that's coming to the TV screen. and I have so many theories, ideas of what we'll see in the future that I have papers here I can't wait to talk about but like they nailed it Tim that was a lot of fun to watch it was great.

Bless. Yeah, I mean, are we going full spoilers? Can I talk full of those? For sure. I think for me the first three episodes started a bit slow. The first episode of that was awesome.

I think starting off in Vault 33 and setting up the turn of oh, this is connected to another vault and having like the reveal of oh snap, okay, there are Raiders and this is fucking everything up. Oh man, that's a crazy way to start off like a fall.

out vault. I like how classically fallout this is and getting the reveal of the mystery, getting like the, oh, there's a third vault. Oh, all of the overseers for Vault 33 are coming from Vault 31. I absolutely love that mystery. And for me, it brought me back to something like separants, right? Of, all right, we're in this very designed, organized place. And there is a conspiracy going on. And I think how they paste that conspiracy out and have those beat by beat reveals in the end of the penultimate episode where Norm steps into Vault 31 and the episode ends. I'm like, dude, that was the moment where I was like, I wish this was weekly. Because if I had to sit with that for a week, oh, man, I would have been obsessed with the

conversations that the internet would have had about it or that we would have had at work or like the theories that people would have been creating. I think there's so much potential in the show as far as the how they do such a good job of balancing mystery and building up to, oh, I have no idea what's about to happen or where they're about to go. I think that stuff is done very well. Episodes two and three for me, like had their moments, but I think Maxmus as a character took a while to grow on me.

in the second half of the season as they took him towards a more comedic place and made him like oh, he's dumb, but he's funny. I think they found a place for him, but that was a struggle for me in the first half. But the big turn for me, funny enough, talking about Lucy McLean,

at first, I was a bit if you on that character because it was oh, you're very plucky, you're very positive, you're very cleansed, and that's how you're supposed to be because you're coming out of the vault. But I'm used to fall out being so gruesome and gory and disgusting

and I was looking for that rawness of fall of fallout and in episode four where the ghoul cuts off her finger I was like this is it this is exactly what I'm looking for out of this show like you took this very again plucky positive like cheery character and you are fucking her up

in episode four that was such a strong oh shit and then from there it was okay we're really treating this well like you are you know give me the rawness of the ghoul you're giving me these really cool beats of oh, he's doing this to like, you know, letting her get her organs harvested so we can get the serum so we can stay alive.

Oh, that's very fascinating. And so much of how they treat the character's motivations are so strong and so interesting. I still have things here where with Maximus that I'm not completely sold on. But I think with him, they came around with him for the most part for me as a character where I'm on the side of liking him more than I dislike him. But yeah, overall, really enjoyed the show on the review. I gave it a four out of five. I think there are so many fantastic things about it.

There are some things I'd like to see them do better for a season, season two. Some of that stuff is like CG and stuff, but even with that, a lot of how the armor looks for the Brotherhood Steel, I think it looks great, like a lot of the creatures, the big, I think it's called like the Glurper or Glorper or like the Axelotel

monster. I thought that stuff looked cool. Gulper, I think. Gulp. I thought it was a fun set piece, even though I didn't love it all the way in terms of just the visual of it, but yeah, I really, really enjoyed this season. Very good. Yeah. I think, you know,

removed from it because yeah we did the review I was with Mike 5 out of 5. I loved it and we talked about it on PS I love you a few times and we've talked about on Games Daily this that the other I think without hyperbole I think it is the best video game adaptation and I don't say it lightly and I don't mean to cashier to the last of us but I think the last of us as a game

was so much more than a game right it felt like that was adapting even though it didn't a movie or a T like the way the themes and the acting and the mocap and the way it all coalesced into this experienced I think is so great. I think you watch Fallout and I just, and I know I've said it a few times on a few different shows now, but like

when Lucy gets stabbed in episode one and uses a stim pack and then it's fine, I was like oh, all right, here we go, right? Because I had paid a little bit of attention. I knew it was supposed to be in the same world, but I wasn't like ready for them to be like, no, no, we are one

for wanting what you do in the game. We are taking the same sound effects. The hacking is the exact same. We're doing the holiday, tape games where, you know, the vault looks like the vault. You got the Abraxos. You got the Cogsworths. And it's like, holy shit, you did this. And you didn't do it in a way of you wanted the pat on the back.

You wanted the wink at the camera. You want, like, you know that you made a world here where the outlandish nature of fallout and the, oh man, they're all irradiated, but they're still alive and there's ghouls. And like, this wouldn't really make sense with how radiated. Like, it doesn't matter. Like, they come out. they commit to what the fallout lore is, what the fallout world is,

and then make a show that I think then allows you to suspend your disbelief. And on the one hand, be like, yeah, the gulper, I didn't love some of the scenes of him, but then when he opens and he's got all the fingers in his mouth, it was like,

oh, that's a weird touch. And then to get the payoff later on when we get back to the vault. And it's like, oh, okay, like you're doing this,

you're seeding this, you're going. I'm with blessing that, like, Maximus was a odd character, I feel in the beginning. I'm trying to get my head wrapped around. him, but I fell in love with him throughout. And to get to the end and have it be like,

episode one, it was very much like, fuck, dude. I mean, Walton Goggins, I just love, period. But like, the ghoul crushing this. Okay, great. Oh, Lucy, she's pure. She's this. She's from the vault. I love you, Lucy, you know that. But this, this Lucy in the show, right? Like, okay, cool. I'm interested to see what it's going to be like when she had, like, even just having the moment of her coming out of the vault and having it be the moment when we've all come out of the vault. But then to get to the end and have Maximus, I think mean as much to me as the other two that I loved, instantaneously, but get there, shows the power of what they did here.

And so, yeah, we're going to rant and rave about it, but, like, I adore this in a way that, like, I think blessing you said after we did the show and maybe you touched one of the games again, you forgot how much you, like, how much fallout meant to you or how much of a fan you were. It's a similar thing for me where I think when I sit there and talk about the games I love and the IPs you attach Greg Miller to, which are many of these days, maybe fall us out at the top of the list, but it is that idea of like, fuck, I forgot how much I liked. Bethesda games and how much I like this world and how much they poured into it. And so

I'm fucking happy as a pig and shit about this, Tim, but what about you? I am too, man. I think that the show is just such a success. Just starting there. I would give it a five out of five for the season. I, from the jump was invested and I finished it. Here I am on the spoiler cast. Never in a million years would I expect that I'd

be on a fallout TV show, spoiler cast and liking it so much. But I feel like it, the thing that sold me was on Games Daily Bless was like, it's like success. Not secession. Severance. Severance. And he's like, I know you like that, Tim. I think you're going to like this.

And you were so right. Like, I feel like the quality and just set design and costume design and just the amount of iconography that they use and to somebody that's new to all of this for them to introduce it to me in a way that I understand and I'm excited about. I, it's such a Herculane task that somehow they, they just accomplished with ease. Like every single plot beat, I understood what was going on. I was excited to. to see what was happening next.

I do wish the show was a weekly release. I feel like that really would have benefited it. But I think that they did a great job just continuing to make me want to come back. I can't wait for a season two. What an amazing. When we see New Vegas at the end, I haven't played these games, but I'm like,

that's one of the games. This is awesome. And also Vegas is cool as hell. Just imagining Vegas in this world. Like, come on. There's going to be some absolutely wild shit there. But I really,

really loved Lucy. similar to some of you guys Maximus I didn't really vibe with I think by the end totally made up for it like I feel like the it wasn't so much Maximus that was my problem I think the brotherhood stuff is the weakest part of this season and he is just the face of that so I think that all kind of goes together on but my God Walter Goggins man Walton Gagins the ghoulton Guggins the ghoul was the coolest motherfucker I think that might be my favorite like outfit I've ever seen like the tattered like the cape jacket situation going on, the bandolier going on. So freaking cool. Everything he's still wearing the Cowley shirt from like, you know what I mean, it's all faded and fucked up, but it's the same one from when he wrote off with his daughter. And that to me is kind of the thing that I am

most surprised by is the level they went back to the flashbacks of the pre-fallout times and the mystery that they started setting up with his character. I was so interested in. I feel like they did such a great job of making it feel like a believable world and him being an actor, them being

in Hollywood, like all that stuff I was like, oh, this is super cool for the weird retro future vibe that you have going on both in and out of the vaults. But it's all come together in the final episode of all the storylines connecting. Like it was kind of obvious in a lot of ways. Like once they gave us all the information in every episode. So it wasn't like it was a major reveal to see it all go down. But it was earned. Like it was so satisfying.

And I'm like, God damn, dude. Her dad is that involved with this whole thing. And that's cool. You know, it didn't feel like. like just like a twist for twist sake. It felt like, oh no, this was built too and this makes sense. And all the experiments in the different vaults, like, I love that it's the vault 31, 32, 33. That implies there's one to 30 and probably a lot more.

Like, it's just so cool. There's at least 111. But they did such great world building with that where it's like to somebody that doesn't know that necessarily, I now, like, it just puts you in this place. I feel like the amount of random actors and actresses that would just pop up. And the amount of times I was like, oh shit. It's like, that's cool. know, and I feel like that's...

Chris Fonnell. All of it. Just so fun. But this is prestige television. I'm so happy they pulled it off. Again, I'm a broken record here, but I can't believe we're in an era that we're getting this and Last of Us and so many other great things. But again, what I think so impressive about this is that it's an original thing.

Yes. That it isn't like, oh, we're adapting Fallout 3. We're adapting Fallout 4. Granted you have to leave because of your dad. But like, you know what I mean in terms of like they didn't take one of the greatest hits and say, we're going to make that the thing. The fact that they were like to your, what you mentioned earlier, right, and what Todd talked about yesterday,

they're like, Nolan's a fan. So like, they understood the games, right? So they wanted to go in and make it part of this and put it on the official timeline and have all these references. It's like, that's so incredible that they did it and they nailed it and they made something that I think is so additive to the universe. Yeah, very cool. It being canon to the games, but like being an original story is, again,

it's a success. They like really achieved something special here. I want to get into some real sports. Talks though. Who wants to start? Like what's what is the most spoiler ready thing you want to talk about? I mean I just want to talk about vault four. Yeah well four is probably my favorite segment of the show. I have the vault stuff has always been my favorite content in fallout from the games and I think having that stuff tackled in a TV show almost works better than in the video games at points because in the TV show you have the opportunity to cut back and cut away and like go all right you know we can expand on what the vault story was that we emerged from as far as like vaults third. 332 and 31 because I think in the first episodes they didn't even allude to 31 I feel like 31 kind of came out of nowhere When they reference because That's where like I think her dad is as reference to coming from 31 and so was her cousin

But they like I feel like it was kind of like a quick thing you don't think about vault 31 It's also like the same the same way like Hank calls the house and he's just like Henry the rabid fan You just don't think about it Yeah, it all comes back at the end. I was like oh yeah as soon as they start unpacking that stuff I love that you could do that I love that you could have Norm Lucy's brother sort of on a different quest than what Lucy's on

and yeah like get cutbacks to oh but there's even more stuff happening here that it's gonna make this vault really interesting I think Vault 4 when you get there and you're like oh what's going down like they're gonna fucking harvest some organs or like there's gonna be some crazy shit and you meet the Vault Overseer

that has the one eye in the center of his face and it is like nobody's paying any attention to it except for Lucy and Maximus right they're like oh man like what's going on here. You see all the different mutated stuff. You're trying to figure out, all right, what's going on here? Like, what is the experiment here? And then you get to the cult shit and you're like, okay, well, what the fuck? And then you learn that it's like, oh, okay, there was a vault here before. These people were all those people that came through after. I thought that stuff was handled in such a whole way. And I don't know, I just love that whole secret. And it was another. And I don't know. I just love that. And it was another. And I don't know. I just love that. I don't know. I mean? Like, I just followed on the cliffhanger, right? Of that episode where they just fall down the shoot and we're in a vault and it

cuts like damn. They did such a great job of I gotta watch another one. Jen, can you stay up for another one? I got to watch another. You know what I mean? Like, keep turning it going. I want to get to a couple super chats real quick. Jordan White says thank you for doing this while 76 is down. fills my fallout need. We're here for you everybody. DJ Kento says, could anyone else

almost see the dialogue choices when Lucy frees the ghouls in the Oregon trader's super duper-dupert marked freezers? The consequences of playing lawful good too closely. It feels so true to fall out. Yeah, 100%. Like, and I think that's again, like, why I think this is such a successful adaptation of a world we know and a game, game design we know, right? Where it was that, it was them getting sidetracked by side quests.

Of course, you know, the ghoul saying is much, right? Like, that's the first rule of the wasteland getting sidetracked by bullshit or whatever. Love that. Like, that was awesome. That was incredible. Even just the head of like, all right, we're taking the head. This is the McGuffin. The way it gets kicked around.

Other people picking it up. Like, they did such a great job taking what you do in a far. out game and making it here and just making the wandering feel like you were in the game, let alone the dialogue. Only special feature says as a Twin Peaks fan, Young Henry reveal, I lost my mind. Love Kyle McLaughlin is Michael, Mario Rivera, right again. Kyle's the actor. He must have changed his name.

Yeah, Kyle. Yeah, exactly. He was great. Yeah. Like, what a great. That actor is always dope, but like seeing him in this role, I thought he crushed it. And again, with some twist that I just didn't really. Yeah.

From the beginning, obviously, didn't see coming. But like, even just the way he acted in the end, I was like, well, this is a pretty, intense. Totally, right? I think that, again, like, what a bunch of shitheads all the fucking vault tech folks are, right? And so, you know, buds, what are they? Oh, Buds, Buds, Buds? Buds. That was, like, to get into those flashbacks and have those moments and have those little conversations was like, a man, fuck Bud or whatever, and then have the reveal that he's the brain. And then, yeah, like, the young Henry thing, right, where they do, again, so well to see Walton Goggins, right, sitting there, hearing his wife sell out the human race or right. And then, and then,

And we're reeling from that. He's reeling from that. And then Henry walks in, which is going to set us off to Rio, which then makes you go, oh shit, Betty is actually Betty. Like, Betty is the overseer. We're eventually going to be in Volt 33. I didn't clock that. And then she, and he goes, oh, thanks, Betty.

I was like, oh, yeah, exactly. And it was another one of those, like, little, like, oh, man, you guys is such a good job of seeding this stuff in there and going. But, yeah, back to it of, like, I think the actor, like you're talking about, right. Kyle, thank you so much. Who we've seen in so many things, obviously. And I know them from Twin Peaks. never watched Twin Peaks.

So I just know him as all the different things he's done at Sex and the City or whatever. Like now you get here, right? And it's like he's such a warm welcoming father to then be stolen like, all right, what's going on? And then to get there and have him be bad, right? Have him get shot in the face. Have him fly off. Like so much good stuff there.

And like to your point, blessing and I agree that there would have been great conversations week to week about it. I'm now left with like all the conversations I want to have about what season two is. Right. Like him flying away, you know, ghoul being like it's easier to chase a stuck pig or,

you know, wounded pig or whatever. It was like, fuck. Like, I can't. What are they going to do in Vegas? Who's it going to be? What's happening? I loved a lot of the misdirection, too, when it came to that stuff of seeing somebody in the past scenes and then being like, all right, so how are they here then?

Like, some of the, like, even Moldaver, I don't think they explained exactly what happened. Like, you have to assume that she was in cryofreeze, right? But where does she get into a cryofreeze, right? Who knows, right? Not that this is, you know, obviously we saw in fall at four, there's also cryofreeze there. So there's like, obviously, this isn't one vault that had it in 30. there can be multiple balls to have it.

But like, you know, there are the theories that are going through my brain as we're, as we're getting those flashbacks and also getting conversations with Maximus earlier in the season between her and, or him and Lucy talking about, yeah, like, Reclamation Day is this. And he's like, oh, no, like the war happened just recently. Like, it happened when I was a kid. And having that timeline be confused in a way. And then, like, as they kept going with that, I was like, oh, maybe Maximus is right. Or, like, having played fallouts right.

I'm like, maybe there's synths. That's my thing with Moldiver, where I really hope that she turns out to be a synth. Because sins can bleed right with synthetic blood. So it's not like we see her. She sits there. Like there's a whole bunch of shit. I know. But it's like, I think that would be a fun way of there was this woman who was there leading the resistance way back in the day.

Right. And then she's obviously brilliant and knows all the science and was able to save her brain, put it into a synth, whatever, make an AI version of herself. I hope it's not just, oh yeah, she cry genetically froze herself at another vault or some other way. Yeah. Question from ignorance here. When we get the scene of the Valtek people all kind of talking about like, here's what we're going to do. What is their plan?

Like if they're going to just destroy the world, what are they going to do? I assume they go into their own special vault. Oh, yeah, they have their own vault. And the games, do we ever see that? I don't think you ever, I don't want to speak out of turn. Because even Walton Gaghan's character, his wife is talking about, like, the reason she's putting up with all the shit because she's trying to get them in one of the good balls.

Because there are vaults that aren't crazy experiments. There are control vaults that are like whatever, let alone VIP Vault Tech vaults. Yeah. And also he says, like, I want to know what happened to my family as well. So I'm just like, that's a season two thread that I want to play. But even just thinking about that where it's like, yeah, if they were, if they were in cryo, if they're a synth or whatever, he's been alive. And like part of it, he's been underground and just kept alive forcefully. But he's been having like 200 plus years to just stew on this stuff.

I can't wait to see what he doesn't do. Yeah, and if you want to get like into the weeds, like you can go and my TikTok is filled with everyone breaking down everyone in that room, right? Because it's Rob Co and it's all these other people and it's, oh, this guy, this is the dude from New Vegas and he did this and he had his own vault. That was his own, like, that's like, wait, so there's in, in that room, there were characters from the games. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, no, no, like a lot of those guys are. It's not all of them.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no. That's the whole thing is like, if it depends. I love Fallout, as we've said here. I love Fallout and doing my story and finding the crazy shit and yada, yada. I'm not the fallout lore guy. And like there's so much lore layered into this show in terms of like, oh, well, that guy did this. And he doesn't believe him because he's got his own thing and that he's doing. And it's like, it's crazy.

Just the glances and the cameos and what those people at that table mean. Damn, that is extra damn cool. I want to keep talking about this. But I want to do that after a quick word from our sponsors. Looking for the perfect gift to celebrate the moms in your life. Aura frames are beautiful Wi-Fi-connected digital picture frames that allow you to share and display unlimited photos. It's super easy to upload and share photos via the Aura app. And if you're giving Aura as a gift, you can even personalize the frame with preloaded photos and memories.

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Pemberton, who plays Thadius. He's older than Greg. That guy will play young people forever. Wow. God bless him. He might live on forever because he's probably. a ghoul running around somewhere. Which will be very exciting. I'm convinced he's turning into a super mutant. Because I'm surprised a few things. I'm surprised there weren't super mutants in season one, but I also like it because that means they're holding things back.

But then also... Waiting for budget, too. Yeah, waiting for budget. If you're going to make super mutants, I think he would make such a good super mutant, especially if he retained his personality, because he's such like a fucking just Uber. So imagine that character in his personality,

in his voice, now in this fucking bulked up fucking dominant body. I think that'd be hilarious, and I think that's what they're going for. They did a fantastic job holding back the two big ones, which is the death claw and the supermuel. Yes. Mike, tell me what those things are. What's up?

What are those things? Well, the super mutants, of course, are, you know, in some vaults, people are working on genetic mutations, and some people return in super mutants, which we saw. And then the death clause, I don't know what the heck those are. I think those came from a vault, but those are the iconic beast that we all know. I was reading up those yesterday because I'm a nerd. Death Claws, I believe, were like a government weapon to kind of replace humans in battle. And then they escaped and just took over.

Took over the free. Classic. But that was the skull, right? You see the skull. So it's like they teased it a little bit? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And we saw the Super Mutant hand on the enclave as well. So that was on one of the gurneys walking by.

So we saw both of those kind of, but it will be exciting to see if they pull those out. New Vegas, that shot. That will be awesome, right? Of like, is Mr. House in control? We're kind of on this interesting timeline of it's 200 years after all that stuff. So where does it line up? Who's still around? What will they reference?

will we have players that we chose our kind of endings? Will those be referenced or will it just be its own thing, right? Because they can kind of play with however they want. Yeah, this is one of the other ones I ran into right at the TikTok of like the ending of Fallout 4. You have, you know, a canonical choice right of between these two groups. But then the way they interact here makes it seem like that didn't happen. Or maybe they can't, they must have won here if they came all the way out here. Because this ship is the same ship.

And it's like, and then, you know, Thadia, not Thadie. what's the night he acts like he is? Titus. Titus has a Boston accent, so that is he actually from out there in the Commonwealth, and that's what's that? So did the Brotherhood of Steel win? Is that canon? And then they, I think they're going to leave, and this is something Todd talked a little bit about

yesterday, right, of like, they don't want to get, and they don't want to muddy those things for what you made happen. I think there's obviously a million ways around it, right? Of like, oh, well, whatever you chose is fine because it's, you know, years and years later, right? Yeah, it's 15 years after New Vegas, and I think they could do something

something where it's like no matter what ending was chosen, just Vegas got fucked up somehow. And we just don't know the answer of why. It'll be cool if they reference Mr. House. I want to see the Securitrons, which are the big rolling robots that we kind of like Mr. Handy, but with the one wheel that you fall in love with with Mr. Yes. So there's like they have to have Mr. House in there, right? I mean, he was such a big part of New Vegas. It would be sweet.

It would be cool. Greg, you just slapped me some facts about Mr. House here. Yeah, Frederick St.clair is the one I was talking about from the fallout. out DLC and he has the casino. He's the one, only you could lose money on a casino or whatever. That's in the reference. It's like, fuck. Oh, that's awesome. They're doing that. And then, yeah, Mr. House. I'm reading from a screen around article, right? Robert House, founder of Robco Industries. Better known as Mr. House, Robert House was the founder of Robcoe Industries and a major character in Fallout, New Vegas. Like the ghoul, Mr. House had a life before and after the Great War.

With the financial and technological resources at his disposal, as the head of Robco, Mr. House was able to ensure he survived the apocalypse by preserving his body via life support and connecting his consciousness to a supercomputer. Later, Mr. House founded the New Vegas community and in turn became a powerful figure in the wasteland. Because of Mr. House's surprise cameo in the finale, the door is now open for the character to factor heavily

into fallout season two. New Vegas is set to be a key location when the show returns, so it's not impossible that he'll appear, potentially as an antagonistic role. Both of them, they go on a little bit more. Yeah, it's cool. One of his final lines is, He says 20 years from now, I want to reignite the high-tech development.

50 years, I want to send someone to orbit in 100 years. I want to get a colony of ships to head to the stars. So if we're 15 years out, as Barrett says, it would be interesting of like, he's looking to start reigniting some tech going on. And we just saw some high-cool tech coming out of there. Hoover Dam as well, is that powering fallout New Vegas. That will be cool to see because that was the big battlepoint of Hoover Dam is powering all of the Vegas power.

So that would be awesome to see. And some really cool people. Gosh. DeJ Keddahl says, Do you know that Shady Sand is a major location in Fallout 1 and 2? The destruction holds weight for old school fans. Oh, I know because this was the other big hullabaloo on Fallout TikTok of like... You're really in on Fuller TikTok.

I mean, TikToks are so great. I can also tell you about all these dogs now. It's like they have the timeline and it's like the fall of Shady Sands. And I guess the date they put up there doesn't necessarily equate to what it should have been. But people are counter arguing that, number one, how do you keep information straight in the wasteland? And number two, the fall doesn't necessarily mean the destruction, right? So it's like a whole thing.

But I'm, yeah, again, this is an interwoven universe they've made, again, to show how much they care about this thing. Super cool. Lucy, what do you want to go next? I want to talk about Norm. Go for me. Norm. That's my guy right there. When we see Norm again?

Norm was focused on the main quest. Everybody else is out there just bullshying around. Norm was like, no, there's a main mission that needs to be solved right now. I love that he was just like... I feel like I feel like I would be the norm if I was in a vault where I would just be like... You hate every job? Yeah, this price sucks. He's like, you're in a quagmire.

Can't punish a guy who hates all things equally. What are you going to do? But like also, I would absolutely hide if we were attacked. And I would just, you know, I would let people who are more suited to fighting. Because look at me. I'm scorny. I'm not going to do anything then. But no, I just love the fact that he was, not even this voice of reason, just this curious character who was like, he was afraid.

and then he just kind of like severance again. Like severance and Westworld are the two touch points that I keep coming back to. And I think just in terms of those, you always have the character who is just a little bit afraid, a little bit withdrawn, doesn't really want to engage, but is so overcome by curiosity. And so I'm rooting for him immediately

because I am dying to know what's happening. So every time like Norm was on, I was just like, oh, thank God. Okay, we're getting somewhere, we're getting somewhere. And I just love the way that he was just, you know, when he's kind of coming up against Betty and she's trying to warn him, and he kind of is over, he's defiant, but not in an, like a super overt way. And he's just like, no, no, no, I'm going to get to the bottom of this.

I'm going to do it my way. And then I love that the little relationship that he had with Chet. Yeah. Because. You're a coward. That's great. Just like, poor Chet ends up, like, just what a hymbo character. I immediately was so endeared to him because he was, you know, he's obviously so in love with his cousin.

But I was endeared because he just, he's such a little hymbo. and he was just, you know, he's sad because he lost his job as the gatekeeper. And then he kind of becomes the de facto just, he gets dragged along for the ride with Norm and just the way, their little, I love their little relationship. And the fact that, yeah, Norm is the guy who gets to the bottom of things. And he doesn't have to leave the safety of the vault in order to, well, he goes into the other vaults, but he doesn't have to go to the surface in order to do it. And I just love the way that he is the reasonable person.

Because if you look at life in a vault, it is so weird. And it's like, yeah, when people are just smiling all the time and just being so happy and upbeat and, you know, we're doing this for the future and everything. I was like, I would get immediately freaked out about that. It's kind of how I feel sometimes about Disney adults. Sure. Oh, okay. Right? I want some joy in your life, Lucy.

No, no, no. I like Disney. Don't get me wrong. I love going to Disney land. I just like be sad. But sometimes you've got to be sad, man. Yeah. Sometimes Mickey Mouse has a bad day.

of Disneyland. Norm took us to some cool places. Like, we got into the overseer's office, which had that iconic shot of, like, the cool background window looking down on everything in the main area was so cool. He did the hacking on the computer. When he was doing the hacking, when we finally saw it.

It was like, oh, my God, it's just like the game. Like, that was the coolest moment around. And then going to the other vault with Chet and, like, seeing the destruction and everything's dead and, like, there's some mystery here. And, man, nothing was freakier than when they went back and everything was cleaned up again. And he's looking at Chet, and he's looking back. And you're like,

Who did all this? What are they doing? That was eerie and fun. That was a really good part of the show. One thing I like about how they revealed the twist of every single overseer being from Vault 31 was you get that information the same way that you would get it in the game. I had to rewind because I was like, oh, I wasn't like paying attention. I did the exact same thing.

I need to actually read and see that, oh, every overseer is from the same vault. That's weird. And they don't tell you that. They expect you to actually read what's going on. And he has to do the weird unlock game to get that information. It's so good. Because what's the rhyme? It's like something wrong.

get someone from 31 or something. Yeah. And like I love that that's just an ingrained part of life in the vault and then when you think about it you're like, oh, that's messed up. Yeah, I like it. So like I'm on, Greg's on follow TikTok and I'm like kind of on follow Twitter. And so I keep seeing theories and one of the theories I saw that

I really like is that now that Norm's stuck in that like Vault 31 cryo freeze place that maybe we see him in a future season just as the mysterious stranger. Like he's like the guy that knows what's going on and now he's like in this place where we might not see him for a while or like maybe he figures out. But if he appears in like season three or four or something and it's just like a random stranger that is just helping out because he knows like whatever the conspiracy is. I like I like the idea of him coming back in that way.

Well that when things are glum vote for 31. That was in. That's what one of my theories comes in, right? Because we know that the ghoul is looking for his family, right? And she was pretty high up. Is she in 31 where he would be? So now we go all the way to New Vegas. And it's like, oh, it's like your wife was working high up with us.

she's back there. I don't think so. They go out of their way to talk about being it's buds buds in there, right? It's junior management or you know, whatever, the training program.

Those are the people in there, right? It's the assistant, it's the secretary. It's like, I think she's in the higher level vault. And I think she took the kid. Yeah, when the bomb dropped,

he had the kid in his hands. Like, how far did they go on that horse? I mean, I think he went to the back, right? I bet he gets to the vault. And she knows,

she figures out that that's what he was, like was a pit boy was transgender to. No, because see, they're already fucked at that point. Really? I, that's my interpretation of it, right? Because like, he's, we never see the fall of the marriage. We see

him find out his wife is selling America or the world out, right? But in our introduction to him, he's there and they're like, how, why is this former Hollywood star doing this? And the one guy goes alimony, and then the other goes, the commie will still take my money.

I think between that and then flashing back to him finding out, he confronts her and she just, she tells Valtek or she herself runs the campaign that he's a communist, we're getting divorced, it ruins his movie career, he can't work in films anymore, he does these parties and then we get here. I've never had a moment where I've felt so much of like, oh, you're straight up evil with her. Yeah. Oh, I mean, that was crazy, man.

Yeah. Oh, do the drop of like, we'll drop the bomb ourselves. Wow. So good. Shots so well too. He's going like, yeah, do it, you know, talk some sense into them. And she's like, yeah, it's struck the bum. And he's like, that's crazy.

Yeah, it really is. Also, shout out to the actress that plays Betty, who's also Blind Al in the Deadpool movies. Oh, yeah. I enjoyed her quite a bit. Got to see her in a, it's a very different role that I'm used to see in her. Leslie Uggams. Yeah, and then we got another super chat from CJ Splitson saying, What Can Last of Us Learn from Fallout?

I'm of the mind nothing, where I like that both can, one can be a straight adaptation. for the most part and one can be, hey, we're in the world, but we're telling our own story. Good. Both of those things should be able to exist at the level of quality that they do. But that's the thing, though. I like, my favorite episode of The Last of Us is the Bill and Frank episode that is not the one that is following the game one-to-one. It's something which takes place in the world, tells its own story. And so you recognize the touch points, you know the characters, but you haven't experienced this story. I would love to see more of that in Last of Us season two because I've played Last of Us many times.

I think the show is also great, but I think I had a great or appreciate it. of Fallout and the world of Fallout because the foundation is so strong that you can just tell all these cool stories in it. I think there are so many executives and creators right now talking to each other about adapting video games into TV shows and movies because it's been working so well lately. And I think it's not necessarily what Last was going to learn from Fallout, but what everything else can learn from Fallout? Because I, for me personally, I've been more excited about a Fallout TV adaptation than I was for the Last Was adaptation. Last Was adaptation was that thing where you always knew it was going to be good. Cool. HBO is working on it. It's going to be fantastic. All right,

it's last list. I think the thing for me of why Falah is working better for me as a fan watching something, maybe not on the critical level. I think still last list in terms of the Emmys and awards or whatever is cleaning up, right? 1,000%. Like last, that's Lasfuss's bag. I don't think Falas going to have that effect necessarily. But I think the thing that works for me as a fan is the fact that, oh, I like, I'm bought into

a lot of these games for their worlds. I am bought into something like Fallout for the world and the stories that they're telling in that world. I think you can adapt a mass effect. And if you do, tell another story in that world. You don't have to retread the same thing that we've been through. Last West for a TV show, I'm enjoying watching because it is the, what, the member berries, right? Of like, oh, yeah, I remember this scene.

Oh, yeah, this is what Ellie does. They're putting on the shirts. They're wearing the shirts. Like, I remember all this stuff from the, like, that's the enjoyment for me as a game player, right? But I think that's also more for people who haven't played the game and want to experience last West in this way and, like, maybe just don't, aren't interested in video games. Fallout works on all levels, where it is, for me, is somebody who plays the games. I am so into the show. And I'm sure for people who haven't played the game,

Tim Geddes are still going to be so into the show because it just works on the... It's a good show. It's a good show that has given you new content in that world that you love. I want to see more of that as opposed to retreading a lot of the same story beast that we've already gotten in mediums

that are similar enough. You know, like last lesson, like a lot of these games are already cinematic. I'm not as interested in the same stories, but yeah, something new I'm way more interested in. Amazon, if you are making the Mass Effect show, I have ideas. Hit me up.

Hit her up. Put it up. I have questions. I have some burning questions that I'd like to ask the group and some things that I'm looking forward to. Like, you know, my, can they make this happen questions to start off with? Can they make fun and suspenseful vault stories? Just like we saw with 31, 32, and 33. There are some very cool vaults in New Vegas in the video game itself.

It'll be interesting to see what they use because when they bring up the map, it doesn't look like there is six to seven vaults in New Vegas area. It looks a little bit less than that. So I wonder what they'll do on that. kind of front, but I want to know if they can make another good vault story, like what we got. Easy. I think every season you get, like, a vault-four type episode where it is you explore a new vault and it is what is the wacky thing going on here?

Like, what is the weird thing going on here? The wacky thing. The war was so wacky. Yeah, the guy with the eye in the middle was that? Two noses? Two noses? That's wacky. Vault 21, they turn, Mr. House turns that into a hotel, which is pretty cool.

Vault 24 was never in the game, but there's a jump. suit that references it, which is pretty cool. 34 has the big radiation and all the weaponry. So that will be dope. I mean, there's a lot of like really cool ones in there. The Gary Vault. Yeah, Vault 11 where you have to sacrifice one person every single year until it was the final five people and they decided to not leave the vault and give up.

And then four of them killed themselves, but only one survived. So will we get that person? Probably. Was that you? Your Battle Royale win? Nuclear winter. I'm number one. I'm probably going to screw this up. Yeah. What's the one where it's the... One woman in 99 men.

That's 68. Then there's the 99 women in one man. And in the one, it goes the opposite of how you probably thought it would go where it's when it's the one woman, she becomes queen and like, and just dictate what she wants. And then when it's the women and one men,

they're just like, we don't even need the man. They just figure it out on their own. But the big question I have for all of you is, so is Cooper Howard the vault boy, or does he just give him the iconic pose of the thumbs up? That's where I'm lost. I don't think he's the actual vault boy.

I don't think he's vault boy. My read on that was that Vault Boy already existed. Yeah. And then he is like a guy who plays him in the commercial or whatever and does the thumbs up and is on the billboard or whatever. But it could go the other way because he does have the billboard poster. But it felt like I'm a little hazy with the years obviously too. It feels like he's so iconic is Vault Boy. But I feel like he would have had to have predated Cooper.

Because they gave him the suit. And she was like, well, it's blue and yellow for you. And you're right. They did do that. He's starting this. Then he does the pose. So it's like, he made the thumbs up by, I believe.

That was his thing on that. And the colors are definitely him too. So it's like, okay, well, Vault Boys now probably just inspired by him. You're right. You're right. I don't know if like he is, he is Walt Boy, but I think.

But he would have to be, he nails it with the suit colors, right? This is probably so early in the Vault Tech thing. I guess the main difference is not blonde. Yeah. Yeah, but like, it would be interesting if, especially because we know that his relationship

with his wife, like definitely deteriorates and he gets out as a communist. Like, what if he was supposed, like, what if they're supposed to base Vault Boy on him? And then because of all this different actors. My read it was that he was inspiration, but like it's not, he isn't necessarily playing Walt Boy in the commercial.

But that's what I'm saying is like maybe that, you know, what they turned Volpoil to be, maybe originally they were going to make Volpoi after him. But then all this stuff comes out of him, you know, not really trusting Voltec and being out of his commie and all this shit. And then they, get a different actor to a blonde actor.

I love the outfits. Like they look so good. I want one. And it's like the translation from like just the cartoon vault boy that I've always seen to the live action version. I was like, damn, this is very, very impressive costume design. And again, the vault production design is so good. And like it just, it's claustrophobic in all the right ways.

And even episode one where you kind of see the like projected fields and the sky. It's like, man, this is like such. a great, eerie-ass place to be, and I loved getting out of it and all that. I just feel like they did such a great job with the world building through production design stuff that the game's world

finally makes sense to me, and I think that's very cool. Did you guys watch Silo on Apple TV? That might be a good chaser for this. It's Rebecca Ferguson, and it's very fallout. They live in a giant silo under the ground, and they are told that they can never go

outside for some weird reason, and it's very 10 episodes, I think. It's amazing. Apple TV, like, I watch that, I think, and Severins and Bad Sisters in one go. Apple TV's got some crazy. Apple TV's where it's up, man. But Silo is probably a good chase of this.

Did you ever see Blast from the past? Bridgett, Frazier, Alicia Silverstone, and Christopher for walking. Don't watch that, actually. We and Nick, turn that on one day, doesn't age well. Cloverfield Lane. That's a good one. Gloverfield Lane.

Oh, yeah. That's a really good one. Until the last 10 minutes. Yeah. Ever see room? room or room I forget which one you know what I'm doing

the one way you get locked in a fucking room you know what I mean that movie's incredible Greg you have a little section you wanted to do here called The Follies where we give a little awards to us a fun little one for you

and now that you talk about anything right just to kind of roll this out in the final couple minutes of this spoiler cast here Super Chats feel you can answer yeah super chats feel free to write in if you have an MVP of the show

a favorite twist favorite fight or a favorite game reference let's start with favorite game reference. And he pops y'all's mind? For me, I, the Stim Pack sure throw it out, but it's, it's more, I paused the show when we have the scene between Lucy, the Cogsworth, the stoners who are running the drug trade there, whatever, where I had to pause it and be like, Jen doesn't play and I'm like, Jen, you've understand, that is the blood bag from the game that you get and use. And I know

I've already talked to the Stim Pack, but the Brax, it is like, just the set design they did there looks like level design, where it is like, there's stuff there, but it's not a million different things. Like, it would be, I think, in a real, like, flop house or whatever, but it's filthy in the exact way all the interiors or fallouts are filthy. And it's got the exact props. And I was just like, this is so crazy. This is so the game come to life, let alone as we were talking earlier, her then having, or as DJ Kinto brought up, you can see the dialogue choices. You see them asking to make choices, the bartering for the thing. Now what do you do? All right, the ghouls are coming. It's like,

Damn, this is impressive. I really liked the ghoul going into vets in episode. It was episode two when he had the shootout in Philly, which was very confusing for me because I don't know why you call this place Philly. I think it's because it's a landfill, but I came into work the next day. And I was like, Mike, are they in California? I'm confused. They said Philadelphia.

Turns out Philly's just a place. But yeah, like when they get into the shootout and you have the slow motion and you're following the bullets and it's like taking people out and you see the body. parks that's fucking exploding and shit. That was so cool. Yeah. That's my favorite fight. Mike, you got one?

I like Red Rocket gas station. I mean, that is one that's been through all of them, but that fallout four, how early that is when you come across Red Rocket and the paint on the side of it and then how they put it in the show it's like, oh my God, this is so cool. And then, yes, dog meat, but it's

not dog meat, but they call it dog meat. It's so cute, right? It's like, that's perfect. So yeah, those are my favorite. Great, you already mentioned this one, but for me, I just loved the line of him being like, don't get distracted out there by the side. That's so good. The war never changes drop was really good too.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I didn't expect it to come from her. Yeah. It's a good one. Favorite twist, I mean, I'm just going to, like the last episode to me, I just thought they did such a good job of putting everything together.

But having all three main storylines kind of connect the way that it did, like that was so satisfying and just like such a great end to the season. Like, it was awesome. Yeah. I just think like seeing what was in 31 I think that was a really satisfying

result from that one because yeah they built it up so cleverly the way they doled it out that cliff hang at the end of like the penultimate episode loved it. Yeah I mean twists I would say it was for me the Betty reveal

slash Hank reveal but I give it even more to Betty of like I just didn't even think we were doing it at the time and to have the little stupid thing of bud constantly interrupting Walton Goggins with this dumb idea and you're just like shut the fuck up why you do it And it's like, oh, that actually happens. That actually gets off the ground and leads to all that. That's incredible and amazing, right?

Yeah. You're talking about lines. I thought you were going a different way. I tweeted about it. When they finished the flashback of Walton Goggins, you know, getting to the bottom of this. And not the one where he actually figures it out, but where he's at home or whatever. And then it's him and dog meat. And he says, sorry, dog meat, you're just not him.

Oh, dude. You know what I mean? Oh, God. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? Yeah. Again, that's what the show can do, right? I'm so bought into these characters and the journey of the ghoul, right, that I can

fucking sit there like, oh, fuck, that feels too real. Slusi says the mom is a ghoul shock. Yes. Oh, my God. As soon as we walked in, I was like, oh, that's her and that's cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then DJ Kendall says the ghoul 100% has the bloody mess perk. Oh.

Which one is the bloody mess? That's one where you explode everybody and everything, right? Fun. Because yeah, because that's where you get the usual vats exploding the eye coming out. My favorite twist might be the seeing the overseer of Vault 31, it being like this little robot. Oh, it was so funny.

It's stuck. Yeah. Come here, I have to inject you. I like four, like having the realization that they were testing on people and what was going on. And then now four of what they're trying to do and setting things, right? That was really like, at first, like Blessing said, right?

The cliff hanger of like, oh, shit, there's some freaky stuff going on here. To then you leave that going, oh, like, those are just some decent people. people just trying to, you know, good for them. The vault for Overseer, dude, or I guess just the, I guess technically is not the overseer, but the leader that, the guy with the one eye, him being like a kind of like a racist comedian kind of character and having like, like making the jokes of me like, I don't know, I thought it was funny. I don't know why they don't think it's funny.

That killed me. I think that's fucking funny, dude. When they left and he had the core with him and Lucy looks at him, it's like, you got to give it back. And he's like, really? And then like, they have the one where they drop it through the thing. And they're like, don't. That was a great moment.

That was awesome. Yeah, that entire thing was great. Oh, the care package where they banish her too. Scoopy mentions in Jeff. He grabs the Nuka Cola machine, just throws it and she's like, chill, chill, chill. Yes, someone will take it to the surface for you.

I really love that line. Any favorite fights you guys want to talk about? I feel like the fights weren't my, the action in this show wasn't what I was here for. Oh. Yeah, I agree with that, but I still appreciated the one we just talked about if you had Max misinterrupting,

the banishment ceremony and fucking shit up there. And then even though it's not technically a fight or whatever, when it is Knight Titus, the original Night Titus, right? When he's running from the bear, fuck, fuck, fuck. And then I guess it's mulling him. I was like, that's fun, this is cool. Sorry, go ahead.

I'll say I like the tension of, I think it was Lucy and Maximus crossing the bridge and there are two other people. They're crossed the bridge at the same time. The tension of that and like waiting for shit to go down, I liked. That was a good one. I don't think anything topped the first episode for me

because it, I think, it encapsulated the opening of a video game for Fallout so well, just, like, shit hitting the fan and just, like, that entire sequence of people getting stabbed in the eye with forks and just, like, how insane people can become when their life is threatened, which we see with all the vault dwellers in the first episode, I thought was really, really good. Got to be the finale with the L.A. Obser, the Observatory or whatever. And, like, seeing, of course, the Brotherhood of Steel come in with all. of the birds flying in and then Moldova and her group

fighting off like that was a really cool scene I liked that a lot and then here we go to close this out MVP of the show I'm a start it's the easiest thing in the world it's the ghoul baby he's so freaking awesome anytime he was on screen I was captivated I can't

believe that this season ended with him and Lucy going off on an adventure I'm like that's exactly what I want from his season two let's go same is the cool I think he's easily the best character in the show Walman Goggins destroy is playing that character to give someone different like I love the doctor just how kind of he had the you know he was kind of doing the right thing he was working for the enclave he was doing all these experiments and then he kind

of realized that he was he was the bad guy and so took the dog kept it safe and made and you know and then just kind of was like sacrifice himself well he was dying but he was just like yo take my head find your dad kind of did the right thing in death and you know love me some michael emerson yeah I mean obviously walton guggins kills it and it is amazing I would since for differences, right, I would toss out Lucy. I would toss out Ella Pernell. I thought her performance was amazing. And again, like, she's, I think when you watch her on screen, I find her captivating, right?

She's these huge eyes, and I think it worked so well for the visual storytelling of this naive girl who only knows the vault and assumes everything's going to be oked dokey outside, but also then the little things that set it off of like, oh, right, the vault is a fucked up place and weird of like, she's been trying stuff with her cousin, right? But she's excited to do this. And what's your sperm count? and they fuck right away. And it's just like, oh shit.

Like, she has been bred for a purpose here. And that's what's happening to then get her out and have her lose those ideals, but kind of keep them as well, right? When she gives the ghoul the medicine, she's like, I make look like you one day, but I'll never beat you. It's like,

that's a fun take and a cool thing. And then even at the end, obviously, drawing the gun on what you think is the ghoul, but then turning and shooting her mom, right? Like really putting her past to arrest and go off on this adventure. She was incredible.

And I think Bless was saying this earlier, but it's like her being this, like kind of archetype of just being like goody two shoes shit it's like i feel like that's such an easy way for me to be like i don't care about you i don't believe in you as a character like that's like too too far of a stretch for me to believe someone would act that way but because of the world and how they set it up and her acting i was like i am so invested in you as a character and i believe in this and it doesn't feel corny it feels uh like i'm very sympathetic towards her because it's like oh man like that's unfortunate that that's the life that you live and very believable so yeah shout

to her for sure but Mike take us home. I like going last because I get to throw out the ones that we didn't say and so I'm going to give love to Norm and how he carried that story in the vault. I want to give love to the overseers that wanted to be, which was Zach, which was Woody and Reg. Those two were so funny trying to go up against Betty. That was awesome. So shout out to those guys over there.

One dude's like, I didn't vote for you. It's okay. And he keeps it over explaining. I put him 10 posters. They had fun going, right? And like those guys really. carried that. And then shout to Matt Barry, who just came in out of nowhere as Mr. Handy giving up his voice and like, how much you get paid for that? And like $5,000. He goes, that was kind of cheap

right. Yeah. That was super funny. And so, yeah, there was some great ones all around. Yeah. Really cool stuff. Thank you all for hanging out with us today. Lucy, thank you for coming through to talk about Fallout. Let us know in the comments below what you thought about the Fallout TV show. What theories you have for season two? Is season two confirmed? Yep. Yeah. Hell yes. That is very, very exciting. But this has been the kind of funny games cast each and every weekday. We get together to talk about the biggest reviews, previews, and topics in video games

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