Kinda Funny Gamescast: Video Game Podcast - Funhaus' Adam Kovic (Special Guest) - Kinda Funny Gamescast Ep. 46

Episode Date: November 26, 2015

Funhaus' Adam Kovic joins us to discuss his game of the year, his favorite games of all-time, and games journalism. (Released on Patreon 11.20.15) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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What's up, guys? Welcome to the first ever episode 46 of the kind of funny games cast. As always, I'm Tim Geddes, joined by one half of the coolest dudes in video games, Greg Miller. The other half, calling out. I don't know where he's at. He's doing his calling things. Doing calling stuff. Getting new tattoos, learn about the American Revolution. I was hoping I was the other half, but I'm also. Well, we replaced him with another one of the coolest dudes in video games.

Adam Kovic. Hey, guys. A fun house, fame. Don't clap for yourself. That's rude. That's rude. Don't do that. I just didn't want to feel left out.

I'm really excited to have you here. It's been a long time coming. We keep trying to have a gauntlet season two reunion. Yeah. I think Justin keeps fucking it up. Yeah, Justin's the worst. She's the worst. She's the worst.

She's the worst. I think we got you, me and Freddie together at one time. And she was across, I think she was at the snack bar. Justine and she walked the other way. She looked at her iPhone. Sorry, guys. Gotta go write a book. Got to write a book.

Oh, man. So my favorite thing about this is the fact that the internet's been clamoring for it. We got kind of funny. We got Funhouse. When is kind of Funhouse going to happen? This is the beginning of it. And I'm excited about that. Just to show how not clever I am.

I didn't even think about that. Really? That's amazing. I tried naming our Chromecast at work, and I tried naming it Funcast. I ended naming it like Funcast, so it looks like Holocaust or something like that. My God. I'm not a smart man. Like, yep, nail the go.

Well, we just never change this now. It's like, hey, it's a fun koust. I'm not smart. Yeah, no, totally. We need to be doing, like, we're pushing for that ourselves. It's not like a mandate or anything because that's how the internet works. Collaborations are good. And obviously, you do the ones that make the most sense.

You work with people who you like, and it's nice. I mean, fuck, I'm having flashbacks now back when we were doing a gauntlet. And I thought you guys were like, I was like, that gay couple of there's so cool. That's the funniest thing. We really didn't think that through. Didn't think that through. Even now thinking back on it, like, really? Well, because I was like, Greg's kind of a schlub, but it's like that good looking guy right there.

He's like, oh, it's his boy toy. That makes sense. So just for some background on this, we all met each other back on Rooster Teeth's the Gauntlet Season 2. Right. These two guys were on the celebrity guest team alongside Justine in pretty long. Internet celebrity team. Yeah. And before I left, Tim's like, I want to go too.

I love Rooster Teeth and I want to meet all these people. And I'm like, oh, yeah, cool. You're like, you can be my, we were working on the show. We were doing producing stuff back at the hotel. But yeah, a whole bunch of people thought we were a gay couple. Well, then that was a producer at IGN and also I was producing things here. This is, I think it was before Game Over Gregy's show. No, it wasn't because remember we were doing, we just started it because we were doing thumbnails in the hotel room.

Yeah. Because remember, I remember there was that thing where you're like, can we use this thumbnail? And it was provocative? And I'm like, yeah. No, but that was for Greg way. Was it? Yeah. Oh, wow.

I don't think Game Over Gregy Show was the thing at that point. No, it definitely wasn't. That was September. Okay. We started the show in November. I'm sorry. I apologize. He just had a weird precedent.

and they were like, this is my man, he goes where I go. I was like, okay, fine. I have an entourage. One person. You guys, like, brought a PS3 and you were playing. Grand Theft Auto. Yeah, we were fucking ready. You guys didn't know how to steal a jet.

And I'm like, come on, give me this. And I remember trying to shoot with the PS3 control. I'm like, this is garbage. What the hell? And none of us got the jet until way later. Freddie sat there and fucking, like, nail it out. Yeah, Freddy was the genius. But I didn't find out until years later that everyone there thought we were a gay couple,

which is the funniest thing in the world. I love the world where that I'm gay and I can get a guy as hot as him. That is awesome. That is awesome. Oh, man. He seems like a power bottom. Like, I don't know. The funniest thing is that one was when I met my now ex-girlfriend Kara.

And like, we were flirting it up and stuff. And it's just like, oh, yeah. Did you guys not notice? I thought you were overcompensating. I was trying to make me jealous. Yeah. He was always like, yeah, dude, I think we're having a conversation. I love boobs.

Boobes are so good. Right, guys? women and stuff and I was like I'm like this guy's trying I love holding them and hugging them women are cool

I love getting all sex in them yeah oh ladies and gentlemen this is the kind of funny games cast wherever the week we talk about video games

and stuff it's not always video games it is just most of the time and it's great if you want to get the show early you can go to patreon.com slash kind of funny games throw a few dollars

throw a few dollars god damn it Greg I was not to say bones not everybody can be perfect like me that's true why don't you say bones do it yourself Make it your own.

Because I got caught up. I got caught up. Did you guys lose money recently? I just saw there's another group I, or guy I follow, your movie sucks and he was talking about on Twitter how like Patreon took like $1,000 out because they're covering fees and stuff now. They just changing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We didn't lose any money.

It's like, they're being more like transparent. They're doing a transparency. I think it's great. Yeah, definitely. Like that what I think you guys are fantastic. I love them. They're great people and they're always trying their best to combat the evils of the internet. I'm trying to imagine an opposite world where Tim was like like, fuck Patriots.

He's just taking their money. He's like, God, I hate them. These old systems broken. They're good dudes. You can't say anything. And dude, that's. No, I could. I could.

I could actually. There's a lot I don't like about them. We talked to them a while ago. This is back when we're at Machinima. And we were talking to them about, we're like, this thing's new and it's different. Like, our fans started a Patreon for us. We're like, please don't do that. Stop.

Stop that right now. Yeah, yeah. But then they called us and they were like, hey, what can we do with this? And we're like, maybe we can get like a fan fun going or something like that. all I remember was Bruce was on his back trying to light his fart with a candle. That's the only memory I have of that phone call. And I was like, we're professionals. Yeah, that's good.

I remember we walked away and being like, yeah, it was a good talk. That was good talk. But I have a photo of Bruce on his back trying to light a fart with a candle. Those were towards the end of the days. So we were. Those were towards the end of the day. We were checked out. We were like, end of the year.

We're done here. No. Yeah. Yeah, I remember when we did ours and announced we were leaving and launched the Patreon and everything was going super successful. Then you guys were like, we're going to leave too. I was like, oh, God, please don't start a Patreon. We feel like we're doing so well right now,

and I don't need you coming in being real internet people. We, no, no, yeah. I mean, we were at a cross. I think I've talked about this on my podcast before, but like, we were, it was sort of like, do we go indie, do we go through rooster teeth? I'm like, I love the rich guys, obviously. Yeah, after the gauntlet, I was like,

I remember I did this thing where I had an extended lunch with, it was Freddie and Matt Holam, the CEO, still CEO. And I remember he, like, showed me around, and he was like, oh, I got to do some work. Do you want to just go do a quick tour on your own? I was like, sure. He's walking around and, you know, Jordan, the guy who does the RTAA, the animated adventures. He was animating while watching a Zelda 64, well, or a time, speed run.

And I'm like, this is the fucking coolest place in the world. I remember I was just sitting in a chair across him and I'm just staring at a wall. And he was like, everything cool. And I'm like, I want to work here. I like this place. Yeah. I'm finally home. Yeah.

And so like in like talks kind of started after that. Like so it was, it was, I thought what you guys were doing cool was cool. was cool, but then, like, we were seven guys. And I was like, yeah, you need a different overhead. We need a daddy. And, you know, Bernie was the perfect daddy. Yeah, Bernie is the perfect daddy. He's a good daddy. He can't hear this right now because he's doing the amazing race.

Yeah. So we can say whatever we want about Bernie. You say whatever one about Bernie. It's great. I don't, I'll put on the table. I've said it before and I'll say it again and I'll direct it as you as well. I don't like that Bernie's a team fat quitter. And I don't like that you're a team fat quitter.

This is outrageous. This is not what it was. This is not what it was. At gauntlet. At Gauntlet, I was like, yeah, another slub. Now you're here, you look all fucking hot. Making my gay tendencies come back out. I left that life behind in the gauntlet, Adam.

Makes sense why you live in San Francisco. It's fine. I think LA is probably gay, which is fine. I'm just saying. That was the other thing about at the gauntlet is like, everyone's like, oh, it's the two guys from San Francisco. Yeah. They must be gay.

I'm like, that's where it comes from. I worked in West Hollywood, and like, I have more gay friends than I can really think of, like, is that not like a thing you think of where you're just like, Yeah, people are gay out here. That's totally out the window, right? Gay being a thing. It's Eric and his boyfriend, whatever. Like, it's just a thing.

I don't know. So it's like, when I saw you guys, it was like, oh, cool, gay couple. That's nice. Of course, they came to Austin. This is an accepting place. It's fine. They weren't afraid of all the pitchforks. I forgot the fuck about I was saying.

Oh, yeah. You quit, team fat. I quit Team Fat because you met me right when I was in my sad fat phase. I wasn't, I was never really like fat, but I was, I had a guy. I was pretty, I was like, I remember. You're like a normal person, not in Adonis. I was sitting at a bus stop, I remember, and I was trying to go to work, and I remember getting him going, I did the, like, the fatty grant.

And I remember doing that. I was like, fuck, that was a fatty grant. And I started CrossFit around that time. Oh, my God. I need to go to boot camp. I need to just kick my ass. And that was during the gauntlet, I hurt my leg because fuck CrossFit. I was, they were trying to teach me how to run.

And they make you run on your tippy toes. And they're like, this is how people run. You can run forever. Running tippy toes. You lean forward just a little bit. Momentum will carry you, baby. And I have like, tight calves. So I was just like, ow, ow, ow.

And I ran around. Remember, like, hurting. And now they're like, now we're going to do jumping jacks. And now we're going to do jump ropes. And then I was doing jump ropes. And I'm like, this doesn't feel good. It doesn't feel good. And the drill instructor base of the CrossFit er guys.

Like, go, go, go. And then I landed and something popped. And I was like, fuck was that. And I was like, it really hurts a while. I goes, oh, you're really injured. You need to sit down. And I'm like, fuck you, crossfit. Fuck you so much.

Got you. Got you. Yeah. And so that. Fitman. And then that next week I went and did the gauntlet, and that's why I was like, I was legitimately limping. I'm like, ow, ow, this sucks. But I only did that for like, I think like six months or something like that.

And then I was like, okay, I know how to work out. I know how to go to the gym. I know how to like. And then I work with a bunch of like basically, you know, fitness instructor instructors like James. Your team is like ridiculously good looking. It's upsetting. Peak is I would say is probably the most in shape guy. He's the quietest one that you've probably seen there.

But like I remember going to his hotel room one time years ago. and he always wears like thick clothing or whatever but he answered the door and he's only in boxers and I was like fucking dude is shredded why do you hide it he just he just gets cold oh yeah he just gets cold yeah even spool he started working out when he got his girlfriend like everyone's like it happens now he's on the girlfriend diet but yeah the girlfriend diet yeah I think as James says no one survives the girlfriend diet so um but yeah I try to like and we're very fortunate too because like full screen has a gym. My apartment complex

is a gym and I have a 24-hour fitness thing so I was like I pass about three gyms on the way home and I'm like I just feel guilty. I got to do one of them and then I started doing the space food thing with James and Bernie and all those guys. Bernie did it after us so he's just jumping on the caravan. I think I forget the order I always try to give people proper

credit I think Lawrence started it first you know what the stuff is. I don't know what space food is like is it like the astronaut ice cream I like that stuff that's what I thought too right. He's a science and industry what up? It's just this I feel bad talking about this because they're not paying for this so I don't want to give it like a resounding Like, oh, buy it, but like, I've been on this stuff and I'm cutting weight and stuff. But, like, it's just powder with water and it's got basically every nutritional thing that you need.

It's 670 calories just mixing it. It's basically a meal. I want in my hotel room. I brought one with me. The airport usually doesn't like it because, like, why do you have powder? What's his white powder? Mine's chocolate. It tastes delicious.

But it's a meal supplement. It's, like, some of the guys are doing it because, like, I don't know how you guys get, but, like, you get busy. You do not have time to go eat food. No, yeah, 100%. Sometimes just, like, put some water on it, shake it up, drink it, and then like, That's minus the fun of eating food, though. I know. That's like the most fun part of food.

I know. Is the eating part? I'm hanging out with you guys this weekend and we're eating. We're going to be good. We're going to burritos after this. That's why. Yeah, yeah. I can, yeah, that's why I'm like, it's getting cold.

I can get a little layer on me. It's funny. I don't know. So, okay, back on topic a little bit. Who are you? What is your journey? How did you get to be where you are at now? Oh, God.

In the video game sense. I'm a college dropout. Oh, I mean, like, God, we can go all the way back. I always played games as a kid. I wasn't allowed to because my grades were bad. So, best memory was when Halo 2 came out, I think I was still in high school.

I think it was in high school. And around the time, Kingdom Hearts was a thing. I remember. Kingdom Hearts is still a thing. I was going to say for Tim, it's never stopped being a thing. No, no,

it was like my dream game. But like every time I had a game console, my mom took it away because my grades are bad. But I remember when Halo 2 came out, I, she would, my mom was a cop, so she would work the late shift and she would be gone at like four in the morning.

So I'd wait till 4 in the morning when she left And then I would string a 50 foot Ethernet cable from my room to the router So I could play Halo 2 online Nice Without her knowing because I had an Xbox hidden in my room But my friend let me borrow So it was like doing drugs basically I was like always trying to hide it online it's a drug

Yeah well I mean like I was trying to hide it from her I was like I had to hide it so I always wanted a career of working in video games And when I was in college I got an internship at G4 Right before do you remember the big massive layoffs they did Yes When G4TV.com got camp and all and stuff.

I was interning from there at that transition. So they let everyone go. And the department I worked in, which was talent booking for attack of the show, emptied out. And my boss wanted some to carpal with because he and I lived far away. And I was his carpool,

but he's like, hey, you want a job? He's next to nothing. I'm like, ah, he gets to work at G4. Oh my God.

Ended it being like a shitty place. Still, it's a foot in the door. It is a, it's, I say this to a lot of people. I'm sure you guys have dealt with this a lot too, where people are like,

I want to work at IGN, or I want to work here. Same with us. I want to work at Richard Teeth. You're like, from the outside, it probably looks like fun. You get inside,

you're like, this is a lot of work. There's a lot of shitheads who work here. Not far less with Rishita, but like, Machinima was kind of that way where,

like there's a lot of, there's a lot of like inner office bullshit. You don't want to deal with it. You will deal with on a day to day basis. I think Machinema and Iger are probably more alike

than Rish Deetan kind of funny. Sure, these giant companies, right? Yeah. Kevin was there. So yeah, there's definitely.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, very true. But that was my mindset. I was kid, I was like, G4, this is the greatest place in the world. And you got there and like, wow, there's a lot of inner office like politics and drama. Yeah, this is still an office. This is still business.

And I mean, like, I was essentially a PA and I got torn apart. And it was like, yeah, you like, I think everyone should get their asshole ripped open at some point. And early in their career because then you learn. You understand the importance of the politics. Yeah. And then you appreciate stuff. And then like, like right now where I'm at in my career versus where I was 10, 15 years ago, like, I'm so happy. I don't have to deal with people screaming at me for eating Doritos on set.

Like, it's kind of nice. Also, free rubier was bad and it got really fat. So from there, one of the people got let go was Tina Wood. She was the host for G4TV.com, the show. Horrible name show. Hold on, g4tv.com. Was the name of the show? Why was it canceled?

So easy to wrap your head around this concept. But she was also one of the people I used to carpool with. I lived in this town, Santa Clarita, and we drive down to LA with these people, and she was in my neighborhood. So I got to know her. She went, like, literally across the street, and she was producing in-sort content for EB games, which is now GameStop, for, like, in-store reviews. And she was like, hey, if you want a job, they pay $100 a day to do game capture.

I'm literally getting paid to play video games. Yeah. You realize what a shit job that is. Yeah, the game capture job is the most bait-and-switch. thing I think in the entire world because it is you're getting paid to play video games and you come in and it's like oh I don't get to just play this the way I want to I need to play it specifically in this way and like make it look good to the viewers and all this shit and like oh hell no that is a skill though and I'm I'm it's a weird thing that I've forgotten

that like I play games a certain way almost like it's I'm controlling I am controlling the camera like there are people are like super twitching I'm like this is useless footage I can't use this or we gave we asked someone to get some halo capture the other day and they just weren't great at it and it was unusable yeah can't use any this footage Like it's weird how that is a job. So yeah, I did learn a lot from there, but I remember one one script specifically was Ninja Guide and Black and she wrote the script and part of the review was like a special features. And one of them was if you beat the game on very hard mode, you can unlock Ninja Guideon for the original whatever NES is like, fuck that. I can't play this like you're playing Ninja Guyton? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. And so like part of my job in the script was beat the game and I'm like, I have a day. I can't do this. So I ended up just recording an emulator and I didn't...

Thank you. I was like, that's a fix. Adam, this is how you do it. Just do it this way. And I was just like, I'll just stay very quiet. Yeah, no, it'll know. So, yeah, you'll be games. You may have been ransomed some illegal footage.

I own the game. If I generally knew the amount of times I pulled one of those. But yeah, from there, it was literally like one step to another. I was at this place called Channel M. I was between there. I was doing another internship and I was about to go into film school. Um, I know. Dodge that bullet.

Very close. It was going to be $100,000 for one year. Oh, great. How to use a camera. Yeah. Um, but I,

I, I doubled down on displaced Channel M and I was working there. And lo and behold, they got an email that just said, um, Machinima is hiring. I'm like, I know the name of shenema.

I know red versus blue. I've never heard of the company. And all said basically was, can you play Halo 2 and World Warcraft? I could do half of that. How hard could wow be? And they were, they were right down the street from the place like,

it was like near Santa Monica. I went and met with a guy. It was like a three-man team and I was like, this place seems cool. I can do some good stuff here. I was only like, I don't know, like 22 at the time. Maybe. I forgot how old I was. Either way, I was young.

And I remember them sitting me at the table and they're like, you can make $80,000 a year if you work here. I was like, oh, my God. That never happened. But I was sold on the idea. I was like, that's a lot of money. Oh my God. And then I worked there for a while, got caught up in the bullshit, didn't really like it. It took some time off.

I worked on a house music documentary. Learned out there. It all goes back So it goes back to I was at Machinima full time And then the guy who I did the game reviews for Quit or got let go from the EB Games job And he was like my dream is to do a house music documentary I was like okay

And he was like I need an editor It will pay 80,000 dollars I was like you got me The magic fucking number for Adam You mentioned $80,000 he's in I think actually that job I can say it now doesn't really matter I remember he told me he's like

I will pay you $70,000 to edit this movie He's like oh my god Which in retrospect I'm like for an editor That's nothing, especially because I was an independent contractor, so I lost half of it. And I was like, oh. And then after nine months, he's like, I have no more work for you. Who you're done. It's like, called Machinima back.

I'm like, can I have my job back? Yeah. And they had restructured a lot at that time. And they had hired like a director of like programming and production. And it was a completely different place when I came back. And I was like, okay, cool. So like I technically started restarted at Machinima as like a full time employee. This is, I think, after their YouTube deal went through and stuff.

But like, there was nine months where I wasn't really there. And then I was at Machinema for nine fucking years. Good Lord. Yeah, and then I met the inside gaming guys as they were and the team that we built like only within the last couple of years and then Funhouse happened. And then yeah, the Roosth like full screen acquisition thing happened and they wanted to expand out of LA and they talk to us and now we're happy. Yeah. Things are good. Yeah, we're busy and I'm here talking to you guys.

That's my entire journey. Yeah. Thanks for having me, everybody. That's great though. See you next time. What's cool to me about that is I've been a Roach Heath fan since day one for with what they're doing. Like to see how they've grown and like have all these different hands and stuff like last week it was announced that screw attack is officially now part of them even though we all knew It's gonna happen Ruby is always the one that blows my mind

I'm like this is an anime made in Austin Texas That's now in Japan Yeah, and like there are billboards and stuff like this is that that is like true diversification of a company where They're doing one thing that you have Ruby fans over here and you have fun house fans over here and there's probably not a lot of crossover Yeah, there's probably some How they make it work like and that's the weirdest thing at an achievement hunter and red versus blue and all this stuff and it's like it's weird it's weird that there is that much synergy between things and like also the billboard you're talking about ruby like do you see that there's this giant ruby billboard in japan yeah no it's crazy it's insane it's funny too because um you guys met miles right yeah yeah i kind of look like him so whatever we go and bernie and everyone else there white people dude

Yeah, yeah. So we were in, Jack and I were in London, not too long ago for MCM, the Comic Con out there. And people, I think, kind of thought I was, I was Miles.

And so they wanted me to sign the Ruby stuff. I was like, sure. Like, I don't work on Ruby. Miles Luna. I just wrote, I am sorry.

But there was one, I may have told the story before, but like, I remember we were at, we were at Paxies. And one dude came up to me, and he was like, Miles Luna,

How's it going? I was like, no, Miles. Yeah, yeah. I thought he was joking with me, and his girlfriend looked really embarrassed. The best, I get it, I've gotten it like three or four times where somebody runs up. I'm such a huge fan. I love your work, Colin. And I'm like, no.

Like, I don't know. And like, maybe 25% of the time, they're like, I mean, Greg, oh God, I'm so saying. But other times they're just like committed, shaking my aim. For me, it's a good, like, there's a 20% chance that they're going to call me Nick. Yeah. Like, it just, it happens. It's the beard. Undeniable.

Being white with a beard. It happens, man. It's the worst game of guess who possible. You guys get the one, you're a lot taller in real life than I thought you'd be. Oh, yeah, I get that all the time. You're much bigger than I thought you'd be. Yeah, yeah. I'm like, well, on your phone, I look like...

Of course. I don't really get that. I guess I'm just... If you portray yourself accurately. Yeah. I slouching my photos and I stand up tall. That way, if the internet wants to talk shit in real life, bring it. You're like what?

6-2, 6-1? Yeah, yeah. You're a tall, dude. Yeah. That's cool. I have one guy who's a fucking giant came up to us at E3 and goes, you're a lot shorter in real life. Everyone shorter to you.

You're a basketball player. Like, you say that to everyone you meet? Yeah, yeah. I don't know, he meets LeBron James. Wait, is he the dead one? Who's the one in the coma? What? Is it LeBron James?

LeBron James is not a coma. Lamar Odom, sorry. Oh. I was like, I'll make sure I don't want to offend anyone. I'm going to call him the dead one and he's not dead. You heard about that, right? What happened? You went to like a bunny ranch and a bunch of drugs

and now he's brain dead because like a Kardashian I don't know. I don't really follow them. I did not know this. That's not a basketball player. It's a basketball? Oh, you woke up? Lamar modem was a basketball player. Yes?

I don't know. Kim's ex-husband? No, not Kim. Chloe. Chloe? I thought it was a football player. There's a lot of misinformation right now about the Kardashians.

There's some football players involved with them. Hello, listeners. Are you still there? Hello? Anyone? Where'd you go? All right, so Funhouse. They're enjoying this.

So what do you guys do now? And like, what are you getting into because I know you did just launched the Funhouse cartoons which looks Oh yeah fucking incredible by the way that that was a fan made thing and This is honestly this is the best people always ask like how can I get a job how can any jobs like just just send us stuff man Like the guy made a fan video and he's like check this out and we got in contact and we're like how much would it cost to make this Yeah, we got the okay budget from all the guys in Austin and now we're we're making I think we're only making like six episodes for now So now they're gonna do but yeah it we're like working closely with the guy he's pretty quick yeah I mean

I thought of same shit with us. You know, like, people all the time, like, make stuff, like, and just put it out there. And we will contact them and be like, dude, this is awesome. Like, do you want to work together and, like, kind of think about it that way? But, like, what I like about this is it's, have you seen this? No, I haven't seen it. I'll show it later. I hate Funhouse and don't watch it.

That's fine. It's the same. The same idea. If it isn't a Bruce video, I'm out. Big Bruce fan here. It's British. The same idea as the animated adventures where it's just like bits and pieces of things they've done. But it's not, like, 2D animation.

It's 3D animation. Oh, wow. They made us into like 3D like Muppet puppets. Muppet puppets. Oh wow. Awesome. It's like awesome. It looks really cool.

It's a unique and like, um, I think we were looking at it too from like a long term angle where we could make like dolls out of this. This is cool. Like this is very marketable like and that's sort of how you have to like think when you're producing new content or like is this a show that I could potentially sell or not sell. That's usually anytime we make a new show we want to just make a good show. We always have to think that in our head we're like could a sponsor fit in here somewhere? This is a business.

How do we make this work? Yeah. And how does it work for the office? audience as well where we're like I like I don't want to have like a flashlight come in unless it makes sense for the show yeah for the show yeah if we're doing like a serious review show like maybe not but if we're doing like a silly off the wall thing we're like yeah get a fucking fleshlight in here it'll be silly why not yeah and like because the audience would be expecting that or something like that um yeah i don't know like that that's sort of where we're at right now right now I think we're

just trying to wrap up the year yeah um which technically ends in February for us because that's when we're familiar with that yeah yeah yeah when does it start when does it end our goals million subs. How far off you know? We just hit 800. Yeah. And like that's a lot of... Kind of funny army. Go! Subscribe to Funhouse. We'll get you there. Don't worry. Well, like, you guys are in a very

interesting place because you have the Patreon. Yeah. Yeah. Regardless if your video does one view or 10 million views, you're getting paid the same. I mean, that's the thing for us is we kind of made that conscious decision where we didn't go with a rooster teeth or something like that where we're just like, we're going to be much smaller, but we know we got the hardcore motherfuckers out there. They're going to like have our back and like make this

work for us. And so it's been working. But then it is interesting because it's always funny to talk to people and be like, they're like, oh yeah, so how many subscribers do you have? We're like, oh, well. If you combined with 350,000? Yeah. But the number that matters is on Patreon. We can talk to you guys after. I mean, like, I'm YouTube certified two years in a row now. Oh, so am I.

Really? Oh, yeah. Oh, God, that course. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Just like, it was so easy cruising through everything. And then it was like, now let's talk about like copyright law. That's when it's like, fuck. I'm going to, I'm taking questions here, but what do I do? YouTube's like, the worst lover you've ever had where it starts out great. Like it's the most manipulative like relationship you've ever been.

And we're like, first question is like, how great is YouTube? You're like, it's great. And they're like, which one of these videos is a bad title? Like this one. And it's like, according to this copyright law and like the statute of limitations of 1954, blah, blah. And it's like out of the four answers, which are the three are the most right? I know. I know.

Oh, yeah. And there's like one where like there's like maybe a syntax that's a little off. Yeah. I just like, I don't know. Like, what is the most right good S? Yeah. Did he say yes or yes? I didn't, I can't tell.

Yeah, that shit was ridiculous. That fucking course, man. Yeah, I think we're just in like a unique place where it's like we, we kind of just function in this thing where we're not YouTubers. You know what you mean? And I think that's kind of. I got a little offended the other day where someone was like, you're just a YouTuber. I'm like, please, I'm not a tube lord. I'm not one of those guys.

Like, I work with an ensemble. I mean, that's, I think, another reason why we all get along and I get along with the I never saw certain types of people as like YouTubers. I am friends with guys who are YouTubers and they are like the standalone thing, but like I can't really do that. I can't be a one-man army. I need I need people to fall back on because I can't be funny all the time. I'm really funny ever. Oh, don't do that. I'm also rarely modest and humble. Very cool. Let's see how many push-ups I can do. You guys into squats? No, but like it's so, I mean like you guys can probably test this, but like

having people you fall back on and like have someone else to yell at when something goes wrong and pretend it's their problem, not yours. Hey, Kevin. You're called a punching bag. No, it's just kind of cool. Like when something's fucked up that like you don't have to do all the work yourself, that there's someone who step up and go, oh, I can do this. Yeah.

Yeah. Or sometimes you want to step up and help it out. Like I love having that. Like working with people. I've always liked working with people. So yeah, I don't know where I was going with this. But like, it's good. Yeah.

I don't know. That's. Oh, yeah, the YouTuber thing. So I've never considered myself a YouTube. Like, I don't the same way like the creatures or like game grumps. I know people are like, they're YouTubers. I'm like, not really. They're more of a production group that are on YouTube.

Yeah. YouTube is just a means to an end to get your stuff out there. So I don't know. It's a blurry term. Yeah. No, I mean, it's blurred for us like in the terms of like how we described ourselves other people and then now how like PR functions with us and does this stuff, right? Because like we left IGN and I brought all those relationships with me.

So like, hey, come to the you event. Here's this copy. Da-da-da. But then there'll be like the things things like, do you, can we, do you, can we sponsor content through you? Do you guys do that? I'm like, yeah, we do that. Like I'll never sponsor a review.

But if you want, you know, like with the order video, we did. Sure. Like, you know what I mean? Nobody, right. Well, I think they refer to you as influencers now. Yeah, that is, that is the big one. How crazy is that though? Like, because you've been in this industry, I mean, both of you guys been in

the century for years where you used to go to invent and it was all nice, sharp dressed dudes with chrome backpacks and their tablets and their notepads and taking these notes. And that's all YouTube. kids. Yeah. You go to any event and it's like, I remember going to do a destiny event. I'm like, I don't think there's a single news outlet here. That's what's been so bizarre is the way it's all changed for us living in both worlds where I'll get invited to an event. I'm like, oh, sure. I'm like, can we do a let's place? I do that. I do that's when I get there and I set up all my stuff and I look around. I'm like, you're all YouTube channels and I, you know, I ask like, IGN's

like, are you going to this event for this game? Like no, we didn't hear about it. I'm like, okay, cool. Just checking. I mean, you seem that they have separate events too. Yeah. There's the mainstream press events and then there's the YouTube people. And it's funny that like, we get to go to both of them sometimes just because like people treat us on both sides or none at all yeah well yeah yeah you know fit neither can't get out yeah and then so those ones where I'm like I hey why wasn't I invited like oh uh we'll get you the next one yeah but we'll go and it's just like a lot of the the mainstream ones I'm like these are not as good as the YouTube ones oh sure ones they just because they it's different function they're just like hey have fun with the game here's your bag of

cocaine have fun yeah exactly whereas the other one's more like hey uh you know this is so traditional and there's a way that this is going to happen just go and sit and play the game. Do your 30 minute presentation that you put you in one round of this kind of the game. I hate that stuff so much. All I know is there's a lot of young kids with an open bar there's always going to be a problem.

Yeah. I have decorum. I know how to hold myself sometimes. After six beers, you slow down. Well, it's like, and have a good night. Thank you for having me. I've seen some madness. Oh, yeah. And I think they're going to be learning that more and more. But it's also getting to the point

now where people just send you like builds. Right, yeah. We're at the point now. It's like, here's your code. That needs to happen more.

Yeah, no. That is like the game changer of just like, I think that the company, the game developers that are getting that and understanding that, they're the ones that are going to be like way ahead. But it's the same thing. Like recently there was like this game that was coming out for the holiday season.

They were multiplayer is a big part of it, right? And so they were like, we're doing this event. And so then I'm not going to go. Like, and then the next day just send me my code. Like why don't you just send everybody your code? Like right there's have them all,

you know what I mean? ever worked on the side of game publishing or marketing and stuff, but I understand there is a budget. That's why they have these lavish events where they're like, here's a million dollars to market this $20 million game that's going to make $80 million. Spend it. Figure it out. And they're like, remember Capcom years ago? Oh, yeah.

We're going to Hawaii. Like, are you based at Hawaii? No. No, one of our games has an island theme. Maybe. I don't know. Really? It's sort of like, I think, how Adam Sandler makes movies where it's like, where do I want to go on vacation now?

Exactly. I kind of feel like that's how they make Assassin's Creed's now where they're like, yeah. The next one takes place in Bora Bora, right guys? Absolutely not. Apparently no one wants to go to Japan there. They're just like, everyone's like, please just give us Japan. They're like, oh, we're begging you.

The whole marketing team is like, please, please go to Japan. Maybe even like a, I don't know, Kyoto for a little bit. Maybe they should have a mission out there. I don't know, maybe like, just modern day Tokyo. Yeah, that's it. All right. I love Assassin's Creed. Second topic of the day, speaking of Assassin's

Creed. I want you to review all the games that you've played this year, Adam. One Keelunel of score, please. Jeez. Do you have a list of everything that came out? No, I mean, we can kind of just go through it. I'll be honest. I've lost track of everything that has come out. I try to play everything. Like every big release, I try to beat every game to

completion. I really do try. It's hard. Yeah. Yeah, that's a long road to hoe. I feel like the game releases didn't start until Metal Gear. Oh, wow. Does that make sense? Did you not play Bloodborn? I didn't play Bloodborn. Okay. Yeah. I, okay, yeah. If you can go down the list and like, name. I beat dying light. Okay, what do you think of dying light?

Better than I thought it would be. Yeah, I thought, because I thought Dead Island was kind of a piece of shit. I thought I liked parts of it, but I thought the marketing was... Better than the game. Obviously, and I don't like weapon degradation on an RPG level. I liked it in Far Cry 2, but I don't like... I love the idea of like you're using a gun, it blows up on you. I'm like, oh, that's so random, that's so cool.

but when you're just you're whacking away and the blade is going down I thought they did a much better job with it in dying light and I thought it was fun to control I was like we haven't had a mirror's edge game in a long time in a game that out mirrors edge mirrors edge you know what I mean like I was awesome it felt great yeah I liked it a lot yeah and like most games you ended up getting more over you got overpowered to the point where the point where you got overpower to the point where you can just like hit kick kick kick stupid but I I I can't call them monsters I'm just I'm just like I'm sorry I'm just like I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm just like I I ended up enjoying the game way more than I thought I would. And I thought Roger Craig Smith did a good job. Really good. Being the voice, being that main voice. I don't know. It was like a really good Dead Island. So yeah.

Yeah. I really liked it. Still, I'm going through my list. Yeah. Bloodborn, though, that I ended up having to stop. Just it's the same frustration I ended up having with Dark Souls. Yeah.

We're just like, the game just keeps punishing you and punishing you. And I'm just like, I got to do something else at some point. I got to go eat dinner. I got to eat dinner, man. It's the repetition that kills me. I love the art style. I love the gameplay mechanics. Just the overall, like, once you save, everyone responds.

You're like, it is stressful and it's cool, but like, it just sucks. I like that I have to, I don't have that much time. We'll get to it eventually, but you and I are talking about Fallout. Like, what I like about Fallout is living in that world and what I do matter. So if I do kill something, that's this big guy, he's dead now in that world. Yeah, but it also has a quick save option. Exactly. I'm an adult.

I'm sorry. Did you play IDARB? I played it at a Let's Play Live, and that was it. Okay, okay. Yeah, silly. Evolve. Oh, yeah, Evolv was this year. Yep.

Holy shit. I thought it was last year. No. Remember, they did betas forever and it was at every event ever and then it got delayed to February. It was such a cool idea that doesn't work. It lives or dies based on the online, like, you know, staying power. Based on who's playing it, yeah. Yeah.

I don't know. I feel like that's a game that would probably benefit for being like a free to play where if you buy the game, you can play as the monster. And then everyone else free to play is just like the dudes. never got into it. It was weird. It's just such a weird concept. My thing was at preview events, when we did a whole bunch of videos where I went with Operation Supply dropped folks

and then I did IGN folks or whatever. And like when you're in a group and it's all your friends and you're in the same room, so much fun. Yeah. And then you get the game home and it's like random teams or this guy can't play or whatever. It's just like, well, now I can't rely on you to be a good trap or whatever. Have you tried to do a vault of glass run on Destiny?

No. Try to organize people. There's no matchmaking. So you have to like, I would get on Twitter and just, Yeah, I'll be like, I need a team. And people are like, I'm on PS4. I'm like, well, I'm on Xbox. And I'm like, too bad.

I couldn't get four fucking people to reply to me. Yeah. It's like, it's so hard to get a group together that like you kind of need that auto matchmaking. And then if you're not, if you're not communicating with your team, like you needed to evolve, I can, the game live and die based on whether you were going to work together. And that's why for me, I hope they, the lesson they take away is to make the next whatever they make more like Left for Dead. Because Left for Dead was just jump in and pick up a gun in play. And you don't need to have like, specialized skills of what you're doing.

You know what I mean. The learning curve on evolve was just, it was ridiculous. Not only on an individual basis, but as a team and being able to work together. Yeah. And then maybe they should have like steps or iterations where I could start out as a very simplified version of Left or Dead. And then it built up to what it was. But, no, man, it was just, yeah, that was tough.

Biggest game of 2015. Criminal Girls Invite only. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Game of the Year. What the hell is that? That's that Vita game where it's a really, really simple RPG. But then what you do is you tap these things to, you know, you see. some girls in various states of undress.

You're gonna hate me. I gave my Vito away. Just gave it away. So what happened? He's just on the street and he just like dead drop passes it to somebody as he goes. I bought it because of the gauntlet. I remember Freddy was playing hot shots on it. I was like, that thing looks amazing.

This is a cool device. And then it just started collecting dust because I stopped using it. And then we did a live show and a fan of ours went on our subreddit. Did you talk about it? It's a great. Sad though, someone broke in my car and stole my Vita. I'm like, you're gonna have mine. I'll win some internet brownie points too.

So here you're you're going to. go. Otherwise, it's going to sit there and it's going to die. No, that's nice of you. That's a good move. Don't, yeah, I'm like, I don't need it. You can have it. Right. Fine. It helped me in Japan. It was great. Yeah. I had a 10-hour flight or whatever, and I was like, I beat Hotline Miami on it. It was fantastic for when I had it.

Right. It just sucks. They didn't support that thing. Yeah, exactly. I wish I could have definitely gone for more amazing games. I never played it. I never played it. Yeah, everyone complained about it. Yeah, don't worry about it. They're like it's a movie. Don't worry about it. It wasn't terrible, but you know, whatever. Sure. Hell Divers. Did you play Hell Divers? No. Okay. Oh, I know. I know other that. Yeah. I mean, obviously... Can we do major releases?

I'm getting... Well, no, I'm still in the early part of spring where there weren't that many major releases. That's what I mean. Like, it doesn't start until Metal Gear. What's a couple? You're a PC nerd. What about the city skylines? You do that? No. I like video games. Not Tokyo Twilight Ghost Hunters. What the fuck are you saying? The list is very dense English. It's a game informer list. I'm scrolling the fast I can. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I use Wikipedia. Oh, really? No, probably would have met a better one. That's fine. Support the old guy. Is it a Game Informer or IGN?

This is Game Informer. Oh, whatever. They need to support. They're owned by GameStop. What about I Am Bread? Do you play I Am Bread? Well, yeah. That came out last year, though.

It came up this year on consoles. I'm just seeing the list. Sorry, I'm just shouting stuff out while I look for the next real big game. That's not just say weird words like whatever Tokyo Ghost Hunter or whatever the hell you were. I'm excited for Twitcher. I'm just getting to May. All right? Okay.

Fine, but Wish are three. Whicher, yeah. That is a... Did you lose a lot of hours to it? Yeah. It's a mile deep and a mile wide. Like that's a game where it's just, you just get lost in that world. It was a little too much for me.

Did you beat it? No. Yeah. See, that's the thing. And I don't know. Like this entire year, what I've been saying is, and what worked for me with dying light, what worked with Witcher. And now what I love about Fallout, right? Is that I was looking for a world to just get lost in and get into and just exist in for hours.

And the Witcher was almost there, but I don't like high fantasy that much. You know what I mean? Like I was waiting for fallout and guns and things like that. I always try to think of the question. Like, if I was in prison, I would probably love Witcher. Where they're like, here's the one game you can play. I'm like, this is all I'm going to play for the rest of my life? Great.

But I feel like something came out. Like, as soon as something else, like Taken King or some like DLC came out, I'm like, I'm out. I'm done. Yeah, exactly. And then I forget about it. But I sell my PC save, like, on the game, it's sitting there. I'm going to get to it eventually. I got the hair DLC and I just wasn't happy.

I made like sexy girl and I was like, ugh. His armor always sucked. I had like weird chess arms. I just don't look cool. I don't look cool. But your hair look cool. I'm sure. This looks like when I try to play World Warcraft at a Blood Elf and he had like short shorts and like a tight shirt.

I'm like, I hate this game. Everyone's running around with like spiky armor and badass and I'm like, I'm like, it was like, hey, let's go fight some demons. I'm useless. What interrupted The Witcher for me was Batman Arkham Knight. That's what it was. Yeah. Yep. Yeah.

And I played on PC, which apparently was completely broken. Wow. But Mike. Oh, it worked for you? It worked for. I was like one guy who got, it worked for. I had a couple like hard crashes, which I just come to expect with PC games. I was very lucky with my setup.

We played it all the time our podcast and I was like it runs fine. I ended up doing the 60 frames for second on lock at one point where I'm like oh it does look better but I didn't mind that it was 30 frames a second

like I didn't have a lot of problems that the internet had at a lot of points and I enjoyed the hell of that game. Batman was awesome. I had a great time. Yeah, get to have a freaking Batman will. Exactly.

Yeah. But the tank. How did you come down to the tank? When they actually have to like do the thing where you're like strafing and shooting? It was fine because I play with a Xbox one controller on PC.

so I play it like it's a console game. Sure. I was fine. I got used to it. I thought how they did some of the boss battles was cool. You and I probably connect on this, but I'm a huge Batman fan.

I actually liked how they introduced Red Hood into the mythos. My only problem was the fact of like they lied to us and I know they have to. Sure. But it's just like couldn't we have danced around it a bit more than you're just telling me this one thing which I would have loved if you would have just told me

in the beginning it's going to be Red Hood. I think you look at it this way. There's a lot of people who probably play the Batman Arkham games who don't know anything about Batman. Yeah. So you've never heard of Red Hood. You've never heard of anything like that.

So when I was introduced, you're like, who the fuck's Jason Todd? I don't know. Warning spoiler. You've had your chance. I don't know. Yeah, I mean, it's been out for a while. Sorry. Really, Kevin?

You had your chance, Kevin. It also, it doesn't really even matter. It's not that big of a deal in the grand scheme of everything. It was just sort of like, here's one of the characters we've yet to introduce. Now he's in. And it was just telegraph from so early on. You know what I mean? Like, from the first thing, like, oh, okay.

His fucking head is red. I'm like, come on. He has a red... This isn't a major release, but stick with me. Life is Strange. Do you touch Life is strange? I didn't play it, no. Is that the one Ashley's in that run, right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Ashley's in it? Ashley Burch. Got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which one did you think, Ashley? Ashley's... I thought you meant Ashley Johnson.

We know too many Ashley's to throw this name around like this. Yeah, yeah, I only found that out because I saw the Game Awards list. Yeah. And during Halloween, myself, James and his wife all went to the Birch Halloween party. Yeah. And I got really drunk and I challenged Ashley to do a game of Smash Brothers melee. And she ruined me. Nice.

She was way to you name. I was like, what is this dash movie you're doing? What is this? What is dashing around? Yeah, she was dashing around. Game Wars, though, huh? Interesting. Interesting.

Those are interesting. Interesting nominees on that list of the game awards. It's weird. Influenza gamer or whatever the hell that made-up category is. It doesn't matter if it's made up or not. Go vote for Reg Miller. Yeah, trendy gamer. Yeah, trending.

You're going to lose a total biscuit. You know it. I keep, the whole jamesal. joke was, yeah, like if at any moment, one of those guys can snap their fingers and just crush me. He won last year. He won't last year. Yeah, he's going to win again. Yeah, I know. I'm well aware of how this is going to go. Go vote for Greg, really. I'll vote for Greg. You've mentioned on how this podcast. You've mentioned a few times, destiny. So what was your destiny experience this year? It's a mobile game with a controller. That's how I've seen it. It's,

very casual, in my opinion. And it's just a heroin needle. You just keep putting yourself. And you're like, new hat, new gun. And then the minute you find any other game that, like, like, Has hooks. It gives you, like, I immediately lose interest. Gotcha. I did get back into it, and I was playing a little bit online, and I finally did a bunch of raids and stuff. I'm the, I have to wait for two or three content packs to come up to get all the cool

stuff that everyone has now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. I was at RtX when last word came out, and I was really pissed off. It's a really cool handgun. I don't know if you use it. It's like a cowboy gun. No, I was the guy who, when Destiny originally came out, I'd been playing it,

enjoying it, right? And then I took, like, I went somewhere for like a week or whatever. And so I came back and everybody was raiding, and I wasn't there yet. There's a threshold. You either only play Destiny or you play anything else. And so, yeah, when it came up with Taken King and I got the thing to jump my level up and do more. I jumped into starting playing that. But again, I only played for a week.

Had a great time. But then something else came out. Taken King was really good. I enjoyed it. I enjoyed the story aspects of it. I liked that they put Nolan Bot in there now instead of Tinglebot or Tinglebot or whatever. Tingle bot. Tingle bot.

I could buy a tinglebot. I thought that I made some good changes. And I think there's some miscommunication as to what Destiny is. I'm almost positive. I might be wrong. But Destiny is your World Warcraft. That's the game you buy. And then everything else is just,

the game's going to be like 300 gigs by the time you're done with it. You only buy Destiny. There's not going to be Destiny 2. That's my understanding. Because your character, they said, it's going to last like 10 years.

Yeah. That was the thing, right? Because it leaked Activision documents from forever ago. They had Destiny 2 in there, but I think it was supposed come out like this year. Well, I heard a recent thing

that Destiny 2 is going to be announced to D3, but that's one of those, bullshit rumors that you're like that'll just be a repack it. I mean like I can totally see what you're saying of like Destiny 2 is going to be on shelves and you can buy it but if you are a destiny player it's not a game it's a service

that's what they want and then there's it's an MMO without a subscription fee so they're killing it on that front man like that's the whole thing if they have a million people who are dedicated to that game and are paying into it every month and always playing it they're good that's going to make more money than Halo ever did so I think they know what they're doing and it's fine

it's just digital crack and I'm like you got a quick crack it's not good for you Make sure you weird things. It's really wet. Did you fall in love with Rocket League? Yeah, yeah, Rocket League's cool because you can just kind of pick it up and put it down wherever you want. Sure. And there's a fun house flag in there too.

So. Team Fat flag too. Yeah. Oh, yeah. We were at launch. No big deal. Oh, that's fine. Took us a wall to get in there.

Yours is your logo, though, which is smarter. Ours is like Team Fat, whatever. Rocket League is great. It's one of those perfect games because it is easy to get into impossible to master. That's a good game. It's fun too. You know, it's just a fun game. Yeah, yeah. You can be like high level pro or it's just be you and your friends getting drunk fucking around and then you can go on with your life. I don't know. It's cool. I'm not into sports games and I feel like that's the sports game.

This was the one that bridges it, right? Yeah, anybody can get in there. Yeah, because it's cars. It's fun and it's so fast and it's cool and it controls well, which is weird because it's driving in the Unreal engine. Yeah, it's always bad. They nailed it. They did a good job. Mad Max. Okay. Did you guys beat it? No. No. Okay. Colin is, Colin won't play. metal gear because he picked Mad Max and everybody got mad at him on the internet and now he refused to play Metal Gear. That was the fork in the road everyone got right. They're like Mad Max or Metal Gear what? I already went to Metal Gear sorry I didn't know the other game like I'm

moving fucking play metal gear yes so I finally picked up Mad Max a little while ago it lost me because in order to forget exactly the controls are weird like it was I didn't get the control scheme yeah something strange where I was like to fire your gun you have to hold left trigger or left bumper and then fire with B or something I was just like who invented that? this. This is like a madman. Created this weird thing. It was cool, though. I only played like a couple hours.

Yeah. But Metal Gear was right there. So, yeah, Metal Gear. See, this is when we started getting real for the rest of the year. It's time to get real. Yeah, dude. Metal Gear is so good. People like to shit on the story, and I'm going to make a lot of people mad right now.

Metal Gear story has always been shit. I'm sorry. Like, I fell in love with the story for Metal Gear Solid. Yeah. But it's just a bad action movie. It's good. I remember getting like goosebumps when Snake looks into it. to the camera and he's like, no time for a cremation or whatever.

I'm like, what a stupid fucking line. God, I love this game. If his brother blows up in a helicopter and there's, you know, I don't know, it's always been silly kind of like anime level. Yeah, exactly. I'm the Lula Layla Lo. Yeah. And like, Metal Gear Solid 3 is one of my favorite games of all time.

But I will be the first to admit where I'm like, story's dumb. It's really stupid. Yeah. It's philanthropist. It's awesome stupid. Exactly. My problem with Five story is that it didn't, it didn't never hit the highs of any of that stuff. I thought.

And yeah, with all that said. Don't spoil anything because I'm still not done with it. I'm not done with it either. I only beat like the first act or whatever. 4chan ended up spoiling the whole thing for me anyway. Don't go on 4chan. That's your own fault. I need funny images sometimes.

They do some great art. Oh no, I know. I'm joking around. I like fortune. But yeah, I think they did drop the ball on a lot of stuff where they were like setting things up. And there was a really dumb twist in the game. But I'm like, I have the whole thing has been dumb. But regardless, my big takeaway from it was the engine is really optimized.

The game plays great. Game plays fantastic. It plays 10. What I hope they do, since Konami's a bunch of freaking weirdos, I hope they just license the engine out or whatever, and they give it to some studio, kind of like they did with Twin Snakes, and they just remake all the

Metal Gear's with that engine. I'd be really happy with that. I'd love that. But, Tajima, discracing his legacy, Kovic. You heard that story, right? Which one? Oh, yo, I've heard a lot of stories about what's happening. His non-compete ends in December. That was the rumor. Yeah. And I'm pretty

sure that's true, so don't be surprised if Microsoft announces a PT like game called something out TP. T.P. It's called TP. Silent hall. Silent hall.

How long we never heard that before. That's fucking brilliant. The story that leaked, the story that came out was essentially, I don't know if you guys saw this. It was like, it got buried under a bunch of other stories, but more or less, Konami wanted like a crazy deal from Microsoft were like, you can buy Silent Hills. You can buy

But we basically want to own like a part of your company. And myself was like, no, we'll just hire Kajima because you fired me, idiots. And we'll just make our own game. They're like, damn it. Back to the Pachinka machines. Which is fine. So, yeah, I think you're going to get a Silent Hills type game announced either at E3 or December. We're going to get something.

Game awards. Yeah, I was going to say game awards. Oh my God. Yeah, no, you figured it out. Keelian, uh, Kijima, love it. The boys. Yeah, exactly. I walked in on them and getting it on.

You know what I mean? I didn't actually. No, Kealey's funny. We were hanging out with him during E3. We did the live stream stuff with him. I mean, he did like his one day where he was all live. And he was sitting, he was basically like the control room the whole time. And we were watching, I think, the Sony press conference.

And I think it was right before last gardening came on. And he just had the smuggest look in his face. He's like, and I'm like, everything okay. He's like, you'll like this. I know everything. He saw everything like a month early. So that poor guy's got to just keep it all in his head. All right.

I can't talk to anybody. That's who seven's being remade. But I mean, since, you know, Phantom Pain was like a, uh, uh, uh,

Cogima Keeley thing. Yeah. Yeah. You have to imagine. Yeah. Game Awards, it's going to be, yeah,

I imagine you'll see some sort of announcement. I don't know what they'll call it, but you'll probably just see Girmal Diltorra's face pop in with Kajima and start kissing. It'll be band-aids everywhere. It's like, which with that said,

the way the phantom pain was revealed. It was one of the weirdest things. Weird. Weird. Weird. When, When Keeley interviewed the dude with the bandages on his face, and what the fuck is going on?

Yeah, Moby Dick Studios. It's not 2005 anymore. Like, you can't do this. The internet will figure it out in a minute. Yeah, and they did immediately. When they overlaid the Metal Gear Solid 5 logo on top of the Phantom Pain. You can't get past him. You just can't do that stuff anymore.

I don't know. That's the point. So, yeah, whatever. Metal Gear, one of the best games. Then Mario Maker. In the best way possible. and like fuck rubber Ross

in the worst way and the worst way possible his fucking levels are insane dude he's I've lost many hours in that man so I love you

Ross but God damn you I'm glad they're adding checkpoints I actually haven't bought the game yet my Wii still packed up but I remember you for the gauntlet

during the gauntlet was right when Winwaker HD came out oh yeah and you fucking brought your WiiU on the plane and plugged it in

and played on the game pad I uh I broke my pro controller because I stuffed it in my bag as we're you know wearing awesome for a week I couldn't play Zelda the Winwaker HD because my so I had to play with a giant tab I ended up doing the thing where I like exchange at Best Buy that were cool about it. Oh yeah it was fun but yeah I haven't picked up my Wii in a long time I have my 3d ass I play smash brothers all the time yeah you know when I travel and stuff but uh yeah I should

probably pick up Mario Maker you should it's a weird thing do you guys play it on your channel at all my we don't do like a regular I like a regular thing on the channel, but I play all the fucking time. I wish I can incorporate it into like Funhouse videos because I wish Nintendo was better about like monetizing stuff. It's weird Because game Grumps do it. I don't know if they have like a weird deal with them or they just don't care I think it's a don't care thing like we do it's as far as I'm concerned it doesn't matter we just want to do fun Like a weekly like Mario Maker show something yeah just anything just just play because it's fun Yeah, what we've been doing is on live streams and stuff we'll like reach out to the community and have them make levels and then we play through their levels and stuff and it's it's fun it's really awesome and like I love that game so much it's

I mean, it's freaking Mario. It's one of the best games ever made, and they basically took that one rage video that guy made years ago. Yeah, like the hardest level ever and they're like, yeah, we can make it into a game. Also, you can play as a link. That's cool.

Yeah. They basically took all the cool internet mod stuff people were doing, and they made it into a video game. It's like, hey, you can just buy it from us. It's honestly, it's one of the smartest things Nintendo's ever done. Yeah, no, I freaking love Mario Maker. How can you not?

I don't know. Did you play Lego Dimensions? No, was it good? Yes. Okay. Quite good. I can show you all my toys after this. Halo 5.

I want to go home. All my toys. And then my Legos. Halo 5 is a sore spot for me. Yeah? Multiplayer is fantastic. Single player story-wise, we were misled. And you're a fucking Halo dude.

I'm a huge Halo fan. I basically have a job right now because of Halo. Like, I've always been into the lore and everything else. And I don't know. Did you guys beat it? No, I'll put it off of it. I'm halfway through on co-op with Christine. I'll just say this.

I played through it twice. I liked it a bit more the second time, but you know, Stockholm syndrome kicks in after a while anyway. but like story wise we were led to believe there was this sort of like chief has gone awall he's been gone for weeks oh my god and then you play the game chief sort of just kind of bones out after getting like a vision from cortana and they're like everyone's like yeah cool awesome let's go awesome good stuff like what no one's questioning this and then it's more of him being i'm leaving and they're like lock go after him and then some other stuff happens and nothing really matters and i was like that sucks like wanted to hunt the truth there was no truth to hunt That's the old fortune part. I was hoping Chief was going to start, like, degrading and start going insane.

And, like, no, he's just a Boy Scout. Locke's a Boy Scout. Everyone's a Boy Scout. You're with Blue Team, who I've been reading about for, like, the past 10 years. I'm like, oh, my God, Fred's there. Linda there. Kelly is there. They're just surrogate so you can play co-op.

Yeah. And it was really frustrating where, like, one of the characters, Fred would be laying there, which, by the way, he's married to Laura Bailey, I think, the voice actor. Yeah. Which is kind of cool because they're on two different teams. And I was like, oh, that's neat. That's a neat. That's a little thing about Halo 5.

Sorry. As the voice actors. But, like, there would be one part where Fred is dead. My co-op partner, he's laying on the floor. Like, oh, and then his voice comes in. He's like, chief, we got to get to the, you know, the station. And it's just like this dead body. Like, you guys didn't think about this?

Like, then the AI is like just bad. They were supposed to revive. I don't know. I just, it was my least memorable single player experience. And that sucks because I'm a huge Halo fan. But, like, control-wise, it is tight. It's a good game. It's 60 frames a second.

The online is amazing. I was really disappointed about the story. It sucks. It sucks that I was disappointed because I love Haylon. I know. I'm sorry. That's okay. They're setting it up for the next one.

Yeah. That's always good. That's what you want to hear. That's great. See in two years. Assassin's Creed. Syndicate. We were talking a little bit about that back in the living room.

Yeah. I started. I really like it. Are you guys Assassin's Creed fans? I like Assassin's Creed. I skipped Unity, so I'm ready to get into this one eventually. But I don't know what I'm going to get to. I think it's like someone who watches vampire diaries.

You know it's garbage. but it's like it's delicious garbage I would actually and I wouldn't I wouldn't call Assassin's Creed garbage like the games to me are always like they're at some level of polish and I can't think of any other franchise where you can time travel and walk around in time periods no other game's gonna let you play

in like certain locations during certain like historical events like the Industrial Revolution what first person shooter is going to take place in the Industrial Revolution and be interesting so I think Assassin's Creed is like the only franchise that does it and does it well I like that I thought it's kind of funny that you can play as a female and no one made it peep whereas last year during unity

that was a huge deal yeah people were raging at the internet like i can't play as a woman like hey you can play as a woman i'm like what no i've moved on yeah i'm mad at something else now stupid internet internet um i like how the characters play differently i like the location uh i was playing on PlayStation 4 i'll pick it up again probably when it comes to pc but um actually played quite well like it wasn't as uh wasn't as glitchy as i thought it'd be a ringing endorsement i always i always forgive those games i play every single one I haven't played Rogue yet actually, so I take that back or any of the mobile games, but I've played every single one.

I love those games, and I love, what I really want is for them to re-release them on PlayStation with the PSVR thing. Oh, wow. And just go and do, just going to walk about it and just be able to walk through, like, just be in first person. Those worlds, yeah. Just walk through those and just be like, I don't know, like, weird teaching simulators for kids. Yeah. This is what you still look like when the assassins fought the templates. Okay, I'll say this right now, Ubisoft, and I know you're probably working on this at some point, but like, make an animus video.

video game for PlayStation. How fucking cool would that be? Like Oculus or anything where it's like, just go back in time. You don't have to stab people. Just walk around. Just do stuff. The worlds are built. You can walk around Venice.

I mean, like I base one of my, I usually would base my vacation on which Assassin's Creed game I was playing. I went to, I went to Italy because not only, but I was like, well, I kind of know it. I play a lot of Assassin's Creed too and then Brotherhood. And I was like, I kind of know my way around. And I did.

It was weird. Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah. Like going to Venice. I was like, oh, I've climbed up this Riftown. I went to certain monuments where I was like, oh, I remember climbing this in the video game.

And they're like, ah, it's so dumb, stupid. Yeah, that's cool. So then we reached another fork in the road, similar to Mad Max and Metal Gear with Rise of the Tomb Raider and Fallout. Right. You play Tomb Raider at all? No. Okay, so how's Fallout?

So good. So you're playing, too, I'm still, I haven't downloaded. It's finally finished downloading. I have really bad internet at my house right now. So it's been a disaster. But how's fallout? So good. I started, we had an early copy on Xbox one and it was, I'm trying to think, like, I don't know,

it's like getting a weird preview of something that you really want because I'm, I'm going to maybe make more people mad. I played on PC. Bethesigames are just better on PC. All in console, they just, they run pretty janky. We had it early on Xbox one and I was just like, I just need to play this. I need to play it. I fell in love. I'm just like, it's Fallout.

I like Bethesigames. I love Skyrim. I'm the idiot who said Skyrim with guns. So, yeah, sue me. Maybe. Or, I don't know. me. Do something with me. I sold a shitload of far cry for you. Yeah. Um, no, no, I'm like, I really love those games. They're therapeutic for me. Um, so I'm replaying on PC right now. I'm like 15

hours in and it's just, you just collect junk. You build houses and you shoot guys. You live, you exist. You make an impact on the world. It's an offline MMO. That's what I like about it. Like you can, you can play it at your pace. That's why I love SkyRum. I put like 400 hours in Skyrim. So I know we can end. I'm sorry. Oh, no, no, no. I was just seeing what just checking in. Yeah. He's like, how long is he's, going to talk about fallout no i watch you with that said though tomb raider the reboot was like one of the best

like uncharted games i've ever played so um i'm excited to get into this new because i'm the same boat i went fallout instead of tomb raider but i had done the tomb raider let's plays we had done and seen how beautiful it is and that it's everything i love so i'm anxious to get to it i think i'm going to hit max capacity at fallout at some point i'm going to take a break and i think tomb raider would be like my

my break from that but is that it for big releases are we done or just called battlefront Oh, do you play Call of Duty? I was going to say everyone forgets about Call of Duty. Yeah. Yeah, the Madden of Shooters. Yeah. We played a little bit of the single player.

We played with one of the guys, Josh Flanagan, who is a, he's a vet. And we're like, in the honor of veterans, they were playing Call of Duty. It's said something. It's not even a war show. Josh Flanagan, I want to say, one of the funniest human beings I think I've ever met in my entire. He is the better Nick Scarpino. I'm saying he has a better beard, and he's funnier. Shots fired.

Did you see the ghost fucker sketch? I did see the ghostfish. I did see the fucking funniest thing in the world. All right, that's a good point. That's one of the saddest things. I love that skit.

It was so good. But we had him on, we were playing it, and I think the single player for Call of Duty is finally getting so dumb that we can play it. Like, we always play

like really old school first person shooters because they're just so bad the AI, so janky and so weird. Calla Duty at this point, like, you have all these AI players that were, like, they'll just play the game for you.

It's great. Like, if you're not shooting people, just hang back. And Chris Maloney jumps in. He's like, I got this. And he just murders everyone. You're like, that guy's having fun. Yeah.

He's having a great time because, yeah, Josh was having a hard time trying to like, he was like learning all the mechanics. I'm like, I don't know what does what. And then like, by the time he learned had to like aim down sights, it was the four AI went in and just murdered everything like blew up a tank. And he's like, hey. Hey, I don't want to do that. Yeah.

Do you guys see that, that video that was, I think it was on Kotaku of someone going through Call of Duty and they literally didn't shoot anything. Oh, no. It was, I think Black Ops won. They just, no, I mean, it was recently. It was this one. And they just walked forward, stood there for a second, waited for things to happen. And it was like, all right, keep going.

And they just kept walking. I mean, I think, I think Call of Duty is good. I think it's good that something like that exists because you always kind of need to make a giant that's making lots of money. And that's good. It's good for the industry. That's fantastic. It's just a game now where I'm like, I don't think I even played advanced warfare.

It sucks because, you know, boy toy Troy Baker was in there. And he was like, Kevin Spacey, too. I was like, this is like the Hollywood version that I always want to play. And the mechanics seem really cool. But it just, it's sort of, I don't know. It's this weird thing. I know how people say video games make you violent. I think they make you bored.

Like when you're just killing the same thing over and over, it's sort of the difference between you can't really compare the games, but Fallout versus Call of Duty. And Call of Duty, you go into a room, you kill 50 dudes. There's like a guy in like a robot costume that costs like $1.5 million probably, you know,

in this world and you may lay him and he dies. In Fallout, like, there's a raider with like a piece of leather on him and every firefight actually means something. Like you could either get your head blown off or you blow their head off and you lose a lot of health or you get like radiation poison. You find a bunch of good loot.

Maybe you go through and compare and contrast what they have versus what you have? It's sort of like less and more. Like less is more. And like with Call of Duty like you just get desensitized or you just killing the same thing over and over. It just doesn't mean anything. And like you get shot. You go hide in a corner. You get shot and fallout.

You're like fucking eat health. I need a Stimp pack. Do I use a Stimpack? Oh God. I found another Stimack. Thank God. Or like do I eat this food because it's going to be radiation poisoning? Like like is it.

You can't really compare the two games. It's not fair. But I am appreciating the RPG fallout shooting mechanics over Call of Duty. just because it's yeah. I don't know. Nothing ever feels like it progresses in Call of Duty. Does that make sense? Yeah, no, no.

You're just kind of doing the same thing. That's why people love multiplayer, right? Because it is progressing. You're unlock something. You're doing something. You're earning something. It bums me out because I used to love the Call of Duty single player back when like Jason Statham was doing voices for it.

Like the original Call of Duty. I remember being like World War II. Cool. These are like big loud things. And now it's just sort of like it's just a joke at this point. It's just it's so big and loud. And it's sort of like you're watching a movie. I think it's for single dads.

All right. Next topic of the day. Your top five favorite games of all time. You guys are going to have to help me with this list. Call of Duty, Black Ops 3. Call of Duty Black Ops 2. Call of Duty Black Ops. There's got to be a halo on this list, right?

Okay, I can say, I can probably name fourth out my head, but it's funny because this list will always change. That's the point of the discussion. I talk about video games I can do food. People always ask, like, what's your favorite food? If you could eat one meal for the rest of your life, I'm like, nothing, that'd be hell. You end up getting sick of it.

No matter what, you're eventually going to do it. There's a place in Austin called Torchies Tacos. Yes, we know it well. Really good, right? And you don't have it in San Francisco. So every time you go there, it's a treat. Yeah. I think we had it like four days in a row.

I'm like, I fucking hate Torchies. You can't, you can't do that to yourself. You can't binge on stuff and think you're going to appreciate it at some point. So, like, for me, it's right now it's almost like nostalgic. I'm like, I thought in my head, it's basically Halo 1, Kingdom Hearts, one or two. Which one? Which one? Kandmarz 2 had two swords

I think I like two more Me too my thing is with two it's like one Yeah it was the original on this and that But two played better the controls were better Yeah it was more epic The fight against the thousand Oh and heartless I was like you won me over And the fucking oh just cloud and squall together

Like are you kidding me yep Yeah it was basically yeah it was like teenage masturbation for me Yeah that's the sort of it masturbated too Yeah Halo 1 Kingdom Hearts 2 Final Fantasy 7 Metal Gear Solid 3 subsistence not or substance substance was two

subsistence was three yeah I'm having a hard time with a fit well I mean let's let's go through that then so Halo why Halo 1 it was it was the game that made first person shooters work on a console for me for most I think yeah that's really redefined I think the dual stick shooter

yeah like Golden Eye Sheriff good point it was yeah I never really got in GoldenE I didn't know it in 64 and like Halo for me my first experience with it was multiplayer like I got a birthday party and my friend brought his Xbox over. I'm like, this just makes sense. It makes sense to me.

Everything clicked. Like, I even played with the shitty Duke controller. Oh, yeah. And then I remember getting an S and being like, oh my God, life is great. Yeah, it just, it was the first person shooter. Even to this day, it still just makes sense to me. Yeah. Especially with an elite controller.

Jeez. It's bad. I'm about to buy a $150 controller just so I can play the game better. Yeah. I mean, that's worth it. It's a great controller. It's an investment. The achievement hunters got it.

And I used it for a little bit. I'm like, I can't go back. Yeah. You can actually aim. It feels so good. And then I remember just being blown away by the single player. Like that first opening mission, I was like, it was just, I was at a friend's house because I didn't have an Xbox. They were downstairs, I was downstairs.

I was down there's playing like World Warcraft. I was upstairs. I just remember me like, this gear is awesome. Yeah. I made a spaceship and exploded. I was like, I didn't know anything about the covenant. Like, it just got me invested in this world so much. So Halo 1 almost for like nostalgic reasons.

I mean, Halo 1. Yeah, Halo 1 is so special to me for the same reasons, both campaign and multiplayer. Like, I think my first dual stick shooter. was TimeSplitters on PS2 and I loved that for the quirky story and for whatever

but it felt like GoldenEye just like where the same guys right yeah exactly and it felt that way and it was just like the aiming's kind of

it wasn't perfect it felt cartoony yeah I always thought that was a weird thing that they carried over to Timeswitters that Gold and I did

where because it wasn't a twin six shooter Golden I think what it was you'd have to stop hold aim and then yeah yeah yeah and I was like okay that was a limitation

and then time slitters was a twin six shooter and they still had that mechanic It's like, please stop. Yeah, and I love time splitters, but then I played Halo and I was like, oh my God. Like this feels so much better.

And I remember controlling the Wardhog for the first time. You're like, this doesn't make any fucking sense. Then all of a sudden it clicked. I'm like, this makes more sense than any fucking vehicle ever did. Just the weight and everything. Yeah. It was just, it was a game that just worked. I don't know.

It's hard to explain like when you feel it for the first time. Like I said, most of the picks that I have are almost just deep rooted in nostalgia. Yeah. But I mean, you were talking about the campaign. Like, I'll never forget the silent cartographer level. which is like the third level in the game, and there's the beach, and it felt like such an epic invasion,

even though, really, like you're looking at it down. It's like 10 dudes, but yeah, I mean, it felt big. I went back in,

the sniping mission. I just did, I did, just replayed it with Lawrence. We did a co-op mission for it, uh, with Master Chief Collection. When it works,

huh, it's great. Uh, but the co-op kept kicking us out and it sucked. But when we did that level, we landed, I was just like, uh,

hard on, this is so good. Like, even because they did the remaster thing with it. Yeah. 12 years old now. Yeah. We're old.

We're very old. Yeah. I don't know. I kind of need help with a fifth. What's a good, like, classic game that everyone renowns is like... Is any Mario on that list? Mario.

Because that kind of rounds out your list. That's lazy. I don't... Oh, you know what? It's going to be a Zelda. Oh. It's got to be Akrona of time, then the best one.

Maybe. I think Major's mask was better. That's acceptable. I'm at this table. That is an acceptable. I don't think so. I put a lot of... lot of hours in a majora yeah you know it was because and like a lot I based a lot of these on like

personal memories of course yeah of course and major's mask was that game where I had the I had the strategy guide and I was getting all I was doing that last fierce deity mask uh to get you know I have to get all the mass and it you have to have you have you done this where you have to like you go through the entire day there there is a story that plays to all three days and you have to be at the right place at the right time to do all these things and like I remember being up to like five in the morning eyes bloodshot and like I finally did it and I think my mom came home from work and she's like what are you doing up like huh Who are you here?

Like the light was, you know, the sun was coming up. And, um, yeah, that was, that was like, that the game just, it just brings so many memories. No, I mean, when I think back to both those games, that's the same thing. Ocarine of Time was such a special one for me, right? Because it was my first Zelda. My friend had to convince me to play it, right? Oh, really? And I came home and I put it in and like, just gone.

You know what I mean? Just gone playing that game. Link to the past was my first one. Yeah, I'm a link to the past guy. Yeah. I never played the first one at NES. It just looked way too hard for me. I mean, it was.

Yeah. For a little kid at least. Yeah, I was, I mean, I must have been five or six or whatever when I came out. The game came released in, what, 85, 86? Yeah. I was born in 85, so I was a young man. But yeah, that was, yeah, LinkedIn of the past. And then, Ocrayant Time, have you played LinkedIn past yet?

Yeah, and I've played it since then, yes, yes, yes. They're almost remakes of each other. Exactly. Kind of. And that's the thing is like that, and I wonder how much that is because every Zelda since Majoras mask, right? I'm always like, can we stop telling the same fucking story over and over. I mean, it is. You know, there's dungeons there.

Then eventually you need to. collect three things, then there's an alternate version of the same place you're in where you need to get five or seven more things. But think of it from this perspective, just because it's your 18th Zelda you played, it's someone else's first. Yeah, no, for sure. And like, I'm totally with that. But it just, it does suck, like my biggest critique of Nintendo as a huge Nintendo fan, fucking huge Nintendo fan. The NX's biggest fan boy. Yeah, I am the NX's biggest fan boy.

But it hit a point where Zelda and Mario and Metroid and all that. Every game previously had a different art style and a different feel and did something unique. And then hit a point where it's like just sequel, sequel, sequel, sequel, sequel. And it's like, how could we have, like, you look at Mario 1, you look at Mario 2, you look at Mario 3, you look at Mario World. You look at Mario World 2. Yeah. Those are all, you look at Mario 64, different games, totally different art styles, different look, different feel. And then new Super Mario Bros.

And now every game sentence looked like that. I think the technology was progressing at a different rate. I can't really say faster rate, but going from 8 bit to 16 bit was just like, and then going from, you know, 16 bit to, did they just end up to 64? 64. They never did 32. Yeah. So, yeah, of course.

PlayStation was 32. Oh, no, no, no, no. But Nintendo never did it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. But I mean, I'm even just talking about art style.

You know, like you look at, they just kind of, once they hit Mario 64, gave Mario a voice, that's what Mario is. I think after Sunshine, he's kind of looked the same and done the same. I don't know. I mean, it seems to work for them. Yeah. I mean, for sure. It does.

The games are still good. Yeah, I don't know what else. They're never going to be the perfect life-changing experience. Then Galaxy happens, so I guess I'm just spitting bullshit. Wrong, yeah. Well, I was going to say, like, look at Sonic in the sad state he's in. Like, what if we made Sonic edgy and gave Shadow a gun? Let's make him a werewolf and give him a scar from long legs.

What do you mean we're losing money? Why's no one buying this shit? I'm almost positive Nintendo's looking at that. I mean, like, let's keep Mario wholesome. Let's just keep him what he is. Yeah. If it's not broke, don't fix it. Sonic's very broken.

Sonic's a fucking joke at this point. Sonic never made the jump to 3D. People say he did with adventure. He's a mean now. It's sad. He's funnier on 4chan than anything else. It's just the weirdest thing. But with the NX, I actually am, my prediction, it's going to be announced at, they're going to call it something else, obviously, but it's going to be announced at E3.

It's going to come out holiday. Yep. Final Fantasy 7 remake. I think it's going to not be an exclusive. No, it's not exclusive. But there's going to get, it might come out on there first. I think they're, I think cloud. First on PlayStation.

I don't know. Well, they announced that. They said it was first there. Yeah, they said first on PlayStation. The cloud announcement. Yeah. For Smash Brothers is like, something's going on. You're going to something.

We agree. I want to say it's going to be a launch game. It's not going to be a launch game. It won't be a launch game. Because that game is impossible. So far off. Yeah. Now that it's becoming more and more real, I'm getting a bit more excited for Final Fantasy

7 remake. Because that is one of my favorite games all time. Well, okay, yeah. So going on that. Final Fantasy 7 is one of my favorite games of all time. I don't think top five, but it is definitely,

I played 10 first, which is probably not the best one to go into. I was just young. So that's just how that worked. Most people don't go backwards. But I went back and I played a whole bunch of them after. A lot of them are better. I love 10, but I think it's a nostalgia thing.

I do love the battle system. I think it's amazing. But seven is, seven's great. And going back to it, it still did hold up, not graphically or anything, but in all the other ways.

So people are either, really excited for the reboot or like hating it because they want an exact reboot what are your thoughts on it i don't know what i want now it's been so long and i think kingdom hearts kind of became my new final fantasy where i was like oh the combat's good then it went away for 25 years or whatever just don't get into bed with disney it's a bad idea for like the stories i was hearing man like like disney like doesn't want that game to come out they're just like because the deal was apparently made before the new sure their new like disney interactive yeah they came in like because that deal went in years ago and like it's going to come out but fuck me man it's it's like

it's a sad long story how it's what's happening but regardless i'm saying like combat wise i was like yeah kingdom hearts figured it out it's fun i let they made an r pg cool final fantasy seven is like it's so dated i don't know if you can change it i don't know i don't know if you can update it today standards and i love final fantasy i love final fantasy seven advent children still makes me feel weird no i mean that's that's the thing is it's like that movie was it was fan service that We all wanted it at the time and then we got it and then you think about it and you're like, ooh, this wasn't Final Fantasy 7. I love the art style how it was like pseudo-cyberpunk future fantasy, kind of this weird. Like I guess once you get out of Midgar, it was mostly fantasy again.

But like I love the world that they built and I love that there were like this, there's this weird clash. It was so unique. And at event children came out and it looks like every other anime. It looks like every other anime. It's super dark and all of a sudden Cloud's, like they just ruin Cloud's character. He went from being this guy that, like, had issues, but was still kind of fun and, like, did the whole cross-dressing thing and all of that. And then you get out of a children, and he's just a hot topic. This is the problem.

Like, this is the problem with the remake. Is that no matter what happens with this remake, people aren't going to be happy. And they're going to be really mad. Yeah. And, I mean, that's my thing is like, we're getting the port on PlayStation 4. Yeah, and the PC one, yeah, or whatever. And it's like, to me, that is the thing that needs to be the same. And a lot of people are going to disagree with me.

But I'm like, I think that they should update it. They should do things. The battle system is going to be different. If that battle system was in a modern game, it wouldn't make sense. No, because we've progressed since then. I mean, they might try to make it like the new, what is it called now, Final Fantasy 15? It's not versus. Yeah, it's 15.

Fuck that naming. Final Fantasy 15, dude's in a car. That demo didn't play too well for me. Yeah. It was okay. It was okay. I'm hopeful. I hope Final Fantasy 7 doesn't play like that.

I don't know. I mean, like at the end of the day, too, I haven't seen anything yet other than a cinematic thing. So, yeah, now it's getting, feeling like a bit closer. like we might see some gameplay at E3 that now I'm like Nah Sure Hell no dude Oh really is that far off

The story The guy who was directing it didn't know he was directing it Until like E3 I doubt we're gonna get anything at E3 for this I think that we might get at some random At like TGS or like some random square Thing that Square just fucking decides to do out of nowhere Yeah I think we might get another random ass CGTzer

We need that's good We're not getting gameplay until we get at least seven more fucking random ass trailers and shit I'm looking at Fall Fats 15 or Kingdom Heart I thought these days were over because welcome to the world of Fallout where it was announced and released in the same year. Everyone, please do that. I like that. Like, gone, I thought were the days of Bioshock Infinite were like, here's a game.

See you in five years. You're like, wait, what? Yeah. No, I want to know. For games, like as big as Final Fantasy 7 remake, they did not need to come out and tout it before they had stuff. I think that's a cultural difference too. Sure. I think you're like, you must be hyped for the next 10 years.

I mean, Zelda's another thing like that too. You know, like. Dude, that was that Nintendo directing pissed me off. I think I saw it pop up on our games or whatever and they're like Oh or our gaming and they're like oh look at um new Zelda game play and I went to it as an IGM player and it's like 13 seconds like fuck you Yeah like no no no no no no you don't do that yeah yeah 26 well I mean they did it for I think a very clear reason and that's that was just to say this game is still coming this year and it is on the sure the Wii you link is a man it's not a girl Link up oh link with that said I would love to see an old man link game one day old man I'd love to see that.

Like a grizzled old man. Or just maybe plays a new character at some point. Ogrina of Time sequel or instead of going younger. That would be great, right? He plays an old man. Not like Metal Gear Solid 4 style where it didn't really matter. Yeah, nothing's different about him. Oh, sometimes he'll rub his back.

Is your mind blown yet? Why was he made old and why did he look like a child molester? I'm confused by this? Oh, there's a 45 minute video. Oh, my PlayStation or my TV shut off because I haven't tested control. There's no interaction. That's very sad. So the final topic of the day.

Yeah. This one, as always, brought to you by the Kind of Funny forums. Go to Kindof Funny.com slash forums. If you want your topics read on this beautiful, beautiful show, just like Rudrama did. Rod Ruma says, how do you all see traditional gaming space evolving over the next five years in terms of journalism? Oh, okay. Oh, okay. We kind of touched on that earlier.

Yeah. In the other video you can check out. Oh, Monday. Well, no, it gets put up as one big one, too. Oh, got you guys. It's not totally disconnect. Rewind. Rewind.

Get that watch time up. Yeah. It's ever changing, right? I mean, we've seen how many different iterations of this industry now? In the past 10 years? Remember when there were magazines? I mean, yeah, I was 10 years ago. Yeah.

I don't know. What do you guys see? I mean, I always talk about it right, that I think what we're all doing is kind of right now, the imminent future where I think you'll always have your pillars of IGN and GameSpot and the big sites will be there. I think the mid-level sites that try to do what IGN and GameSpot do will fall away. and then you'll have this spectrum that is giant sites and then the personalities. All right, I went to IGN and I heard about all these cool stuff that's happening with Smash,

but I know that when I think Smash, I think Tim or whatever, I want to go see I'm kind of funny what he's doing or HALO, I want to go see what Funhouse is talking about and stuff like that. I think also there's kind of a misnomer with the word journalism. Yeah, sure. What the hell is gaming journalism? Because most of what you see is reading the press releases. Yeah.

Or just getting information that's just disseminated from on high. And when you go outside of that world and you try to break up, a story, you get blacklisted. You don't get to go to these events anymore. And people don't like that. We've done that a couple times and we've pissed some people off. Yeah. And like, it's not a good feeling.

Yeah. But it's also, it doesn't matter. It's games or video games. You don't, I don't know. Like there was journalism when you had to figure out that, uh, you know, go back to like Nixon, you know, there was journalism that took place. There was a lot of investigated, investigative journalism that had an effect on the world. I mean, whether Silent Hills is getting made or not, I don't know if you're going to

lose any, you know, sleep over that. Someone might have a job. And that's the problem is when everybody tries to put all of what happens in video game journalism or enthusiast press under the banner of journalism, right? So much of it is opinion, critique. Yeah. Entertainment. Exactly. Exactly. I like the term enthusiasts.

Yeah, yeah. I think there's people who are doing, you know what I mean? I think, you know, we always talk about Jason Schreiber from Kataku, Patrick Cleppick. Like, they're out there doing things, getting sources, having things that are attributed to people and, you know what I mean? Alexa at GameSpot? Of course, yeah, yeah. That's not the majority. Oh no, and that's the thing, and that's what I'm talking about with the umbrella.

There's people who are doing things. There too is like, not only is it not the majority, I think everyone, like you're saying, think it's the majority and think IGN game spot. Oh, that everyone there is a journalist. If they say it, they're journalists. And it's like I was at IGN. I am not a journalist. I made a list videos. I have a degree in journalism.

And when I was at IGN, I wasn't a journalist. I was a critic. You know what I mean? And then I became a personality and there's different things that are going on there. So, yeah. You'll keep a ball like that. I think you're going to see more. more and more small pocket things like us pop up

where it's like, cool, you know, you can have a million subs, you can have not a million subs. There's people there that have their audience, though, that they want to hear from. Yeah. So question two comes from our good friend, Raj Forger.

I know Raj Forger. He's a good man. Over at Funhouse, what's the show you look forward to most every week to film? Oh, geez. I like Demodist. That's fun. We do this one where we,

it's going to run out soon, which is great. Someone gave us a packet of old Demod from like a PC gamer and all these things and we go through it and we try to play old games on a Windows 8 machine and now it's Windows 10 95% of them don't work nope not at all so that's such a funny idea so we end up playing porn flash games instead people keep sending us more old games which is fine I just look forward to it just because it's always madness yeah I like everything we do the only thing I personally do not do not

look forward to is playing GTA because I don't get to play the whole time so we have to pass it off and I'm not very funny and if I don't get to play the game I'm kind of bored so that's it I mean just you know kind of kind of of expanding on this what do you guys do for the people that don't know out there like what are all your shows and what could they watch oh god i mean honestly just hit up the website and check it out because there's a whole list of stuff but um uh if you want to get into it i would recommend watching the scrobbles video i think that that usually that will kind of give you an idea of who we are it was after r tx we were just tired we had been working we're insane you know

that feeling when you're just like it's sort of like being drunk or high or you're just like i I can't feel things. Right, right, right. And we did a, I think we did a demo disc, and we went to Last FM, and we saw that certain, like, I don't know how it happened. We found a band that had Scrobbles. We're like, fucker Scrobles. And like, we just burst out laughing. And you kind of get an idea of, like, who we are in our sense of humor of, like, what that is.

You can find that. So I think someone already ripped it and did a video. But, yeah, I showed it at a panel in London because Jack hadn't seen it yet. So I was like, I'm going to show this video during the panel just so Jack can watch it. So he knows what we did. Yeah. I would watch that and you get an idea of who we are, but we do all sorts of things.

I mean, the idea of fun house should give you an idea of, we don't take anything too seriously. Yeah. Unsexiest comedian says, how does he- Real quick, I beat him,

don't let him forget that I beat him at no mercy. You beat him a funny comedian? I was exhausted. I just wanted to go home and go to bed and this guy's like, we need to play and I didn't. I just fucking crush this kid. Would you beat him?

Yeah. Speaking of crush him, the other fuck. The best part was, I did the special. I was the rock, of course. Right. I did my special people's

elbow, but kind of forgot how to do it. So I bounced off and then I just walked to his body. And then like I didn't drop the elbow because I guess you have to hit the button. But I'd forgotten that. I just pinned him. Just pinned him. You suck. It's so anti-climatic. How do you feel losing the gauntlet to a shirtless camping manchild? Okay. If you haven't seen the episode yet, I highly recommend you do. Oh, the Unreal Tournament of Internet videos. That, what I love about that video more than anything else is that is exactly how it went down.

Like there was almost, there's nothing disingenuous about that. There was no second takes, that was what happened. And, like, it blows my mind because I'm like, that's exactly how I remember it. Like, it went down like this in this exact order. The drama was perfect. Fucking Greg, man. Like, I was just like...

Him and Freddie. I'm like, oh, we got this in the bag. I'm Freddie Wong. I play on Real Tournament all the time. And then I killed Freddy. Well, I was worried about Ryan Haywood. Everyone kept telling me, they're like, Ryan's an FPS master.

He's going to kill you. And I'm sort of like, I'm being kind of humble. I'm like, I'm good at Twitch shooters. Like, if I get into it, I used to play the Unreal demo nonstop, I'd rack up like 50 kills. I'm just like, it's just, I love twitching. I love Twitch and right now I love Overwatch. Like I'm having such a good time playing that as like any attacker. It's just like it clicks with me. Shooters like that click with me. And Greg just sat there. He just sat in a fucking corner and then I think I killed myself. Yeah. Because I had rockets and

I'm just like, but I'm happy the way it turned out because it made for better. So my favorite thing, which is great going crazy at the end. But my second favorite thing about that video is when you kill Freddy and he's like, what the fuck? And you were just like I'm sorry, you all look the same. That's not an Asian thing. That's sort of my mouth talking before my brain is done processing things.

That was so funny. That was a great show. That was great. I saw Bernie all the time to bring it back. Yeah. And then he just doesn't answer that text. Yeah. But I keep sending it. Yeah. He'll respond to other things. Just not that. I was saying one of the seasons of 10 Little Roosters are, I guess the next one's 11 Little Roosters is doing like a spy fame.

saying like 12 little roosters or whatever like should just be based on they should do a fake gauntlet. Yeah. And it's based on people are dying during the gauntlet season three but so it's a weird meta thing. It's sort of like the Kirby enthusiasm Seinfeld. Right right right that's awesome. Make it meta.

Most ADD says what's the coolest thing about working for rooster teeth now? I mean cool part of there's so many freaking talented people you can lean on so many other people like John Reisinger will design something in you know right away. We have socks right now. Hold on. I'll show you. What? Yeah. I didn't used to have socks or I work,

but yeah, we have that's awesome. Yeah. Fuck, I want kind of funny socks real bad. The fact that there's merch that like we're getting like weekly is insane. Like it's honestly comes down to support and talent. Like you have a lot of that working with a company as talented as that, especially with us being in LA and then being in Austin. It's crazy. So that that's part of the best part. But then just kind of be able to do whatever the hell we want. Yeah. It feels great. I'm sure you guys can attest. Yeah. It's a great feeling.

And having people on the sales side, the merch side, and the content side, just supporting everything you do. That's a great feeling. Mm-hmm. So not bashing anywhere else. I used to work, but it's a life of difference. It's so good. Russ Sadler says, who looks better in a dress?

Bruce or James? James. I'm not a fan of body hair. I love you, Bruce, but man, it's a lot of hair. I've seen his ass. Oh. Too many times. He calls it his back pussy.

My God. It's a dark hole. He spends a lot of time wiping. Head Monkey 84, which is one of the best names I've ever heard. What's the absolute worst job you've ever had? I worked at Kmart for like three days in the food court. Oh my God. And I think they closed it shortly after I left.

You were the linchpin. Kind of, yeah. I had to make a fish sandwich for a kid having no cooking experience. pretty sure I served it half frozen half raw I charge them five bucks for it Five bucks for food poison It's the best I can do And like I think on like the second day

They wanted me to clean out like the grease drain and stuff And I was just like this is a really shitty job This is really bad And started working out of clothing store Which wasn't as bad Was it like a Forever 21 It was an anchor blue Anchor fucking blue

Are you kidding me? Oh it's amazing I hope that at some point in my life You've sold me pants Beyond baggy pants Yeah they probably I got a weird skin rash working there Oh, because the fucking dies of the jeans?

Yeah, yeah. I remember my hands were just like shredded and I was always bringing band-aids. Retail sucks. But I keep telling, hey, work some shit jobs. So if you ever get a really good job, you can appreciate it. You'll wake up and go, yay, I get to play overwatch. Count Stacula. Damn, I take that back.

I take back the headmark to be in the best name. Count Stacula is amazing. Pretty good. How do you keep it real? How do I keep it real? I don't know. I just have some perspective on life. I don't know. I work with a lot of humble dudes, like legitimate humble dudes. Like everyone

there's very passionate. Surround yourself around people who are into the same stuff as you and who also keep it real, so to speak. I don't know. Like just just have good people, good friends who are into the same things as you and they kind of keep you in check. I've seen people in this industry go insane, either with money or fame or a million other things. And I don't think any of that stuff ever really matters to us. We just want to do a good job and entertain people. So like, just keep your focus is very simple. That's really it. Like live. to be happy and make sure you enjoy what you're doing. I don't know.

It wouldn't make sense to be miserable. I'm always trying to work towards something, something better, something good. So I don't know. I drive in a court. It's cool. So it's short answer. Driving a court. That's how you keep it real.

Cook A wants to know, are you over your drug addiction? Hashtag sex swing. Oh, have you guys seen this? No. We did a fake rock band integration. It was a real integration. We have a fake band. band called sex swing.

Yeah, we're a fake band called sex swing. That makes more sense. I saw people tweeting images about sex swing. I was a character called the Schling and I had a heart attack on stage. No, the drug addiction is still real. Drugs are great. Prescriptions. Suck my magnum.

Final question today says, how do you feel your change from inside gaming to roostateeat has affected your reach? Oh, God. No, yeah, the fandom is insane. Going from Machinima is like, I kind of felt like we kept trying to fight for, like, fandom. Like, are we, we were trying to, we're trying to fight for goodwill. At Roosterty that just kind of pours on to you.

And, like, people are very supportive and very cool. Hi, puppy, you're so cute. We're familiar with that. Quite familiar with that. It is, yeah, like, going to RTF was madness. You guys were there. Yeah. Yeah.

Holy crap. To see a company takeover a town like that is just insanity. It's boosted our reach a lot. And I think a lot of that, too, is like, we have to work with really cool groups, like, you know, the live action crew, an achievement hunter. Like we just have great people we can collaborate off of and we've been welcoming into the family, which is good.

That was, I think that's the hardest thing for new hires and people to come on. So, um, what was the question again? I forgot. The reach. Oh, the difference.

That was a good answer. Yeah, yeah, uh, it's crazy. It, it blows my mind how far, how many fans we have when we go to different towns and stuff.

Yeah, it's very, you guys know this. It's surreal. Yeah. Because you're, I'm sure you guys do what I do. You just live your life.

You're a normal person. You're just, civilian, you're walking around. So I'm like, oh my God, you're like, what I do, what I do, what I want. Take my money, I'm so sorry. I never want to be that asshole where someone comes up and he goes, excuse me, yeah, yeah, I'll take your photo. And they're like, no, I was looking for the street.

No, that's happened before. I'm not going to lie. Oh, yeah. Like, weird things. I'm just like, well, because the thing is with me, they'll, they'll get really excited. I'm like, hey, and like, I'm never sure if they know who I am because I'm like the fucking other guy. So it's just like, what do you, what do you want?

Do you know who I am or do you need something? That's me usually. I'm very shifty. I need some kind of confirmation that you know exactly what's happening. Even in London, Jack and I were sitting next to each other signing stuff and people come up and I'd always ask like, do you want me to sign it too? Because Jack's been to the company way longer than me. And there's way more achievement hundred fans.

I'm like two years ago you and I did RTCS after the goal. That's right. And we sat up and it would be like one after another would be like, I'm a Greg fan, I'm an Adam fan. And then the other would sit there and be like, I don't know how to interact in this situation. Do you want me doing this? Yeah. There's a lot of photos of us just kind of...

Yeah, yeah. Here I'm in this one. The weirdest thing for me, and this is like really shitty, is the fact that... So I live in San Francisco, born and raised in San Francisco. So I deal with, like, a lot of... I've grown up here. I went to school here, elementary school, middle school, high school, college. Like, I have so much history here of knowing people.

And a lot of people, there's a lot of acquaintances. So every once in a while, someone would be like, 10! And I look over, and I'm like, do I know them? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or do they just know me? And like a couple days ago, we were walking to Starbucks and like some car pulls over just full Asian kids. And there's a time. And I'm just like, I just like pointed out.

I'm like the points my go to. And then they drive off and Kevin's like, just kind of looked at me like, what was that? I'm like, I don't know. They thought your angel and Julie maybe. Anyone I knew from my math class in high school, I don't know. Like I didn't get a good enough look. Wow. That was way more racist than I think you ever think it was.

No, no, no. No. I'm like, why does the Asian part make? No. Tim was the only white guy in school. guy all like I grew up surrounded this is my life he could have picked any class but he stumbled right into that one well okay I'm saying that based on my experience not on any generalities at all I went to Lowell high school which is literally 90% Asian kids okay that's

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Thanks for having me, guys. This is fun. We like you. Oh, thank you. You're good. It's like you do this podcast thing. It's weird. It's a weird thing because the very first time I ever saw Greg, he annoyed the fuck out of me.

No, I remember the game, remember the game Lair? Yeah. And you were holding that, like, review guide. I'm like, who's this fucking nerd? Like, holy this. Oh, I just want to punch that face. Then we met him. I'm like, oh, Greg's really nice.

That's how it happens. I usually hate people at first. And then I'm like, I either still hate them or I kind of like them. Ladies and gentlemen, this is a kind of funny games cast. Thank you for joining us. We'll be back next week. We'll be back every day. We'll be here fucking forever now.

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