Kinda Funny Gamescast: Video Game Podcast - Game of the Year Predictions - Kinda Funny Gamescast Ep. 181

Episode Date: August 6, 2018

We discuss what games we think will be in the game of the year discussion later this year. 00:00:16 - Start 00:06:31 - Madden 00:15:44 - Hallow Knight 00:17:39 - Fortnite 00:41:38 - Game Of The Y...ear Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:11 What's up guys? Welcome to the first ever episode 181 of the kind of funny games. As always, I'm Tim Geddy. I'm back. One of the coolest using video games. Greg Miller. Bonjourno, porpo, oh. So where did you lose track?
Starting point is 00:00:27 That was me on a gondola, but I couldn't, I didn't know how to do, I didn't know how to do, like, I was like pushing it down the Venetian waterways, you know, and I was going to sing a good old Italian song. What's a gondola? It's like the canoes with a giant stick. It's an automatic like gondola. No, another gondola, but also more used in America are like when you get into like the Ferris wheel slash ski lift kind of like things that carry you places. I don't know any, I don't know any Italian songs. Do you know any?
Starting point is 00:00:58 When the morning hits your eye. How does it go? How does it go? Andy Cortez, the number one video games journalist is joining us today. I forgot. I was trying to memorize. I thought it was going to be an Italian grito for a second. No,
Starting point is 00:01:20 I was trying to memorize everything you did. But I got lost. You know what I mean? They call me the three-legged cat because no one knows where that cat's going to go. So when you try to remit that cat, can't fucking do it. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:01:30 Have you, or anyone you knew, no, new, done 23 and me? No. Oh, DNA thing?
Starting point is 00:01:37 I don't believe that. You don't, what do you don't believe in it? How can you not believe in it? It's just against what I believe in, dude. They hit us up today and we're like, hey, like, are you interested in trying our product? Maybe, like, we'll do a sponsorship or something. And I'm like, hell yeah, I want to know.
Starting point is 00:01:51 Like, just give me all the, I want to know all the deeds. Yeah, no, how white am I? Yeah. You know what's fucking getting in that. And like, apparently you were born out of the San Francisco Bay. We can't figure it out. We've never seen this before. It's not 23 in you.
Starting point is 00:02:03 It's one in you. I'm kind of excited about it, though. We'll have to see how that goes. Are you down to do it? Are we all doing it? Whoever wants to do it can do it. I want to do it too. We're just putting our DNA out there.
Starting point is 00:02:12 Here's the thing, though. Who are they going to sell it to? Hold on. You caught the Golden State Killer, right? Yeah. They caught the Golden State Killer because of 23 and me? He did, or I don't know if he did one of those tests or if it was his, like, relatives and that narrowed down, like, who it was. Here's what I say we do, though.
Starting point is 00:02:29 Let's test them. We all do it great, but then we swab the inside of Portillo's cheek and see if it comes back. This is a fucking dog. Like, what kind of shit? This is a fox. What kind of shit? I got from like alternate history of Portillo. It turns out he's been a man in a suit this entire time.
Starting point is 00:02:48 Oh my God. Damn. The jig is up. We have Joey Noel on the shock mic. She's going to be joining us for some fun little stuff coming up. For those that don't know, this is the Kind of Funny Games cast. Each day every week right here on YouTube.com slash kind of funny games. We get together and talk about video games, all the things that we love about them.
Starting point is 00:03:07 Did you think that it was the Game Over Grady show when you getting ready to do this table thing? No, I was just doing a fist race. Oh, you're just doing the fist? Yeah. Okay. I don't know what Craig's doing, but I'm kind of... We're using the space. Use that space.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Why do we have the space if we don't use it? We have the space thanks to all of you and your support on patreon.com slash kind of funny games. If you want to get this show early, you can be watching live for just $1 a month. You can watch four to five episodes, depending on how many weeks are in that month of the kind of funny games cast. You can also just get the show early as a video and get the pre and post show. Was this pre-show great? It didn't involve me putting way too many... Um, cough drops in my mouth at once.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Yeah. Was way too many too? Yeah. You can watch that if you want. Then there'll be a post show. Uh, you get this show as an audio podcast by going to your favorite podcast service of choice and searching for the kind of funny games cast. I just, I don't have the rhythm for that.
Starting point is 00:03:59 We know that's not going to work. He doesn't require rhythm. Um, and speaking to Patreon, shout out to Tom Bach. Tom Bach. Tom Hites. Eric Heights are two. Patreon. on producers
Starting point is 00:04:08 Bokin Heights they call it the Bokkin Heights Connection. Bokin Heights is after fucking Franklin Bash right Mm-hmm that's what I thought It's like kind of like
Starting point is 00:04:17 Better Call Saul where it's like a spin-off series to Breaking Mad but um It's a Dell worker Heights heights and heights And we had a great pre-show
Starting point is 00:04:25 before this Yes we did Of course if you support us on Patreon.com slash kind of funny games that you can watch us record it live get the pre-show You can check out the video
Starting point is 00:04:33 every Friday get the pre-show and post show for both of these things Uh-huh We warned the pre-show audience. Yes. That Joey Noel is going to come on eventually to talk a little bit about the one and only Madden in long shot and do that.
Starting point is 00:04:46 And we will mute it then for them, right? Uh-huh. Do you think at any point should we also mute it for Andy Cortez to give you just the elevator pitch of Spider-Man? No. Because we're in a time warp. Can I just use to promote, just promote Spider-Man then? Yes. We're at time warp, of course.
Starting point is 00:05:01 We're recording this on Wednesday. Thursday morning, a game cast special goes live. me and Andy Cortez 1V1 talking about Spider-Man because Andy number one games journalist went to LA
Starting point is 00:05:11 and played it I heard Brian from Insomniak Washington playing was like I can't believe how good this kid is this is why he was really blown away guys Yeah
Starting point is 00:05:18 Is any of that true? No He was like He was like guys We're going to Naples after this We're going to Nepal We're going to To all those cities
Starting point is 00:05:27 He was like I need you there With me to come along Just to show everybody How to play Yeah Couldn't do it Yeah Anyways so for people
Starting point is 00:05:34 who are listening on Friday then or on Monday, wherever you get this. Go check out that other games cast special, man. It's up as a video. It's up as audio.
Starting point is 00:05:42 Oh, wow. I understand Kevin was overwhelmed today and somehow missed the fact the last few days I've requested it to be audio. But Joey no one couple of honest. I heard and fixed it all. Joey does that. I got it.
Starting point is 00:05:51 I also think Cool Greg might be trying to sabotage the business. What's you got going on? Cool, Greg. What is he's walking away? He's got his head on something. He's trying to get some more tubes. He's trying to put stuff in tubes.
Starting point is 00:06:01 No, he's putting stuff in tubes. But before you get to the tubes, We're just going to jump right into it so we can get this segment over so if we're watching live can start listening to us again. Let's just jump right into it. But we're going to mute you right now. Can we mute him? Cool, Greg.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Cool. Okay. You 100% sure we're muted. Cool, Greg, don't fuck this up for us, man. It's like a red X now, right? Cool. Okay. Madden, NFL, 2019.
Starting point is 00:06:29 Joey Noel on the shock mic. She's played long shot mode. Yeah, let's clarify. I haven't played anything. else in Madden. What I'd like to do, of course, is do a little bit of a walk here. It's because last year, they announced Long Shot, of course. It had the one and only Scott Porter.
Starting point is 00:06:45 It had some other guy. Any further. Andy, can you give us the theme song? It's a long shot. It's a long shot. Had Mahershal Ali as well. It did. I'm making sure it's muted.
Starting point is 00:06:57 I'm making sure it's muted. They say it's muted. They say it's muted. Okay, cool. I was super stoked for it. I thought what a cool thing. I started playing, I was like, this is really fucking good. Got you a code, got Andy a code.
Starting point is 00:07:09 All three of us, like, this is awesome. This had no business being as good. Some motherfucking long shot. I'm just doing background singing. Sure, okay, cool, cool. Joey, did you, you didn't beat the first long shot. I finished it last night. Awesome, awesome.
Starting point is 00:07:21 Because I realized that I didn't, I hadn't finished it. I was like, oh. So. It had no business being as good as it was, as touching as it was. As pulling on your emotional heartstrings as it did. Six hours, maybe? Four or six, something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:32 I did in two nights. It's not, it wasn't bad. That's how I wanted to play. It got Jen interested. She doesn't give a fine fuck about American football. She was into it. And as I said, I think EA missed a big opportunity last year. They should have broken that out and put it up on its own.
Starting point is 00:07:44 I'd be like, hey, for $10,000, get a long shot and play through the whole thing and have a good time. However, leading into E3 this year, I made the prediction. One of my predictions that I lost on the games cast predictions was in fact that they were going to say, hey, guess what? You know, long shot two is coming. It's got this major star in it because it had the other guy from House Cards, Moonlight, the bad guy from the good part of Luke Cage Mahershala Ali
Starting point is 00:08:06 I never forgot his name And I was like okay I bet at E3 this year They announced it and they didn't say a fucking word At E3 for EA And I was like damn it's not gonna happen Then like two weeks ago Scott Porter Friday Night Lights of course
Starting point is 00:08:20 He put up a thing of the in game shot of him And like we're back with long shot And I'm like oh my God it exists So exciting You started to play it how is it I'm worried because they didn't promote it That it's not as good So I'm like 40% through it
Starting point is 00:08:32 I like that they give you the little percentage thing. I really like it. Okay. I like, I think this story is a little bit more interesting. Really? Just outside of the competition. You get to know them like a little bit more as characters and like what they're doing. What is the thrust?
Starting point is 00:08:49 Because last time, of course, it was this guy who in Scott Porter's character who were trying to make it. They did the thing. They got on the field of the very end. It was kind of like a rudy thing. They weren't like amazing. No, Scott Porter's character was a wide receiver. Yeah, and he got on the field of the variant. But the main character was
Starting point is 00:09:03 The quarterback, right? The quarterback, yeah. Devin Wade. Devin Wade, yeah. And it's... He won the long shot, Ray Addy show. Right, but it didn't really end in an incredible way, did it?
Starting point is 00:09:13 I feel like it... You could get different endings, though. That's true. Mine ended that they finally got to play and they won something. But it wasn't like they won the Super Bowl. It wasn't that kind of thing. It was just like, hey, we got to be in the field together.
Starting point is 00:09:23 Right, yeah, yeah. But there was that emotional moment of, you know, the flashbacks to the father and him... And he... and him trying to complete that pass at UT, University of Texas, Longhorns, you know. So you're enjoying it, Joey. Yeah, I like it a lot. You get a little bit more history, so you go back to, I think, their high school stuff is kind of more what you see instead of college.
Starting point is 00:09:48 So do you want, like, the elevator pitch of where you start out? Yeah, totally. So at this point, Devin Wade has been drafted by the Cowboys. So I was like, oh. That happened at the end of the first long shot. Oh, I feel like in mine, it... Oh, no, he didn't get drafted. No.
Starting point is 00:10:04 Right? I don't think so. You were all the Cowboys, I thought, at the end. Anyways. Whatever. So he's there, and then Colt isn't playing at all. So you get to see his storyline of, like, is he going to get called by somebody? Is he not?
Starting point is 00:10:19 Yeah. He's going through all of that. There are some musical numbers. Hell yeah, they know what we want. They know what we want. Yeah, and so you get to go through his little character arc, and then the other guy is trying to get, like, actually on the active roster.
Starting point is 00:10:31 Seeing what happens. So it's just continuing his story of being the long shot and going to the NFL. Yeah. Do you need to play the first one to understand it? I would recommend it. Does it carry on your story from the first one? No. So like if I killed Rex in part one, it doesn't save over to part two.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Correct. Got it. It's a long shot. Joey, you're right. This is why we're all arguing. There's different fucking endings. That's what I thought. Gotcha.
Starting point is 00:10:59 Because it can either be that one of them, one or the other get not drafted, was it? Or they both do, right? There's a Legends game. Oh yeah, I forgot about this. There's a Legends game and then they go to Iraq or whatever. Yeah, I'm like all weird. I could have sworn at the end of mine, you are expecting him to get drafted and he does not. Devin and Colts NFL futures vary based on the player's behavior in the Legends game.
Starting point is 00:11:24 There are three possible endings related to the draft. Devin gets drafted by his favorite team, which the player. are picked earlier in the game. Or Colts, or Colt, I'm sorry, gets drafted by Devin's favorite team's rival and Devin is undraft. That's why I was like, in the former Devin is selected in the seventh round,
Starting point is 00:11:37 but Colt is not drafted. Devin tries to encourage him, but Colt tells him to enjoy the feeling. Devin leaves the house and shouts in glee before stopping to remember his childhood. In the undrafted ending, Colt is drafted in the sixth round, but apologizes to Devin out of disbelief.
Starting point is 00:11:50 As the seventh round concludes, Devin is not drafted and leaves the house where he vents his frustrations and sits on the porch. A flashback to his childhood days with his father take place. Where, Cutter, tells him while victory does not always occur, if one gives their best,
Starting point is 00:12:02 they have the right to feel like a winner. However, Dan calls Devon to announce two teams have expressed interest in signing him as an undrafted free agent. His favorite team and Colts team, after telling Colt of his new team, the two celebrate. Yeah, I got the drafted ending. I got the undrafted one where Colt went to go play for the Redskins because I picked the Cowboys as my favorite team.
Starting point is 00:12:20 And so Colt went to go play the Redskins, and then they came out and were like, hey, there's two teams, the draft is over, but there's still two teams wanting to sign you as an undrafted free agent. Who do you want to go to the Cowboys or the Redskins? Like, oh, do I want to go play with Colt? Or do I want to go play with my favorite team?
Starting point is 00:12:33 Yeah. Went to the Cowboys, man. Come on. Are you kidding me? Fuck friends. Jesus. Who's a Redskins fan? Mia Khalifa.
Starting point is 00:12:40 Right? Damn, shots fire. But yeah, it's really good. I really like it. Same kind of thing of like mini games of like doing the right routes and do. Yeah, exactly. Which is my least favorite part. And this is going to sound like the dumbest thing.
Starting point is 00:12:52 But like there's way too much actual Madden and stuff. Like I just want the story. I don't care about the actual Madden football part. How do you feel they've improved the edge rushing in 4-3 defenses compared to last year? Because last year was a little bit lacking. Have you noticed? Are the defensive ends pinching the way they should be? I don't know that I've played enough to really speak to that. But I'm going to put some time in tonight.
Starting point is 00:13:09 You play more of a secondary character. You're out there hawking the wider series. I see it. Ball hawks. Ball hawks, dude. Ball hawk. Yeah. I used to scream that when Matt had introduced that because you like hit triangle and he would
Starting point is 00:13:20 like heat seek to it. Oh, yeah. You get so mad of me. Remember fight for the fumble? Yeah. The worst feature. Sure. I mean every year.
Starting point is 00:13:27 You got nine months to make a game. Let's toss in a few things. Let's do something in there. I hated that feature. But you like it. It's good. Yeah. All right, cool.
Starting point is 00:13:33 I'm looking forward to playing. Does this mean that we finally get Scott Porter on the show? I mean, as usual, it's the same thing where you talk to people about it. And then they're into it and then we never follow up. And then Greg calls them out publicly on Twitter for dodging them. We're in a text Scott Porter right now. But really, all it makes me want is like a full-blown, like, Friday Night Lights. Game.
Starting point is 00:13:54 It's a fucking long jump. the long shot. Thank you, Joey. Thank you very much. Let us bring you to SF for the... Can we go bring the audio about? Oh, yeah, yeah, for the shows. We can bring the auto back, cool, Greg.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Thank you very much for your patient, patience, ladies and gentlemen. We've recorded a lot of parties today. That's not true. We were supposed to record a lot of party modes today. We recorded a couple. We have one more after this. We did two.
Starting point is 00:14:22 I heard bad news, though. When we were back there, it turns out all the Mario Tennis is burned and so we can only play four. Nighting out. This is burned. All the Mario Tennis is burned. It's selling very well.
Starting point is 00:14:32 Over a million already. Mario Tennis. Yeah, with Games Daily gone, we didn't get to talk about all the Nintendo numbers. I missed them. Nintendo coming through, a lot of sales. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:39 The NES classic? I saw that. Number one. Something in Droom, 29, 18. That's unbelievable, dude. Way till they get that. But it came out like last. That's a thing.
Starting point is 00:14:51 Like, it's not the new thing. It's not the new thing. I thought I was like, oh, We found the mini-Satter out there. You're right. That's when you'll see real movies. I think I saw one already at like CVS.
Starting point is 00:15:02 Yeah, when you walk through Walgreens, it's like, got 180 games. Sonics on it. It's like fucking all these weird. It's an old N-64 mold controller. Oh, God. Remember that shit you'd see? You know the only thing worse than that 64 controller? What's that?
Starting point is 00:15:13 The Sega Saturn controller. I hated that thing. It didn't even leave. I had a Saturn and played a lot of Saturn games. It doesn't even have an impression on me in terms of what it was. You know what? Think of all the three armed people that had a great time with the 64 controller. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:25 They did. Come on. Original couch co-op. Yeah, quit fucking. Grab my nub, little guy, let's go.
Starting point is 00:15:30 That's what I would say to the little guy that was with me. The little guy with you. The little dude just hang it out. Good Lord.
Starting point is 00:15:37 Andy. Last week you came on and talked about Hollow Night a little bit. You got any updates for me on that, baby? No, I don't.
Starting point is 00:15:42 I'm having a hard time talking. You are, man. I'm really sorry. It's just a podcast. It's just going on. I moved on a little bit more
Starting point is 00:15:49 in the world and I took out one of the bosses and you're just killing it. Still no deaths at all. Haven't even got close to dying once. That's a joke? That's a joke.
Starting point is 00:15:58 Okay, sorry, just making sure I understood. But no, I haven't even died at once, though. So not a really whole lot of updates on Holo Night. I mean, it's getting more and more interesting. It's getting more and more challenging. You're starting to see where there was a certain enemy that I didn't have a power to kill, but now I have it. So it's like I'm seeking out all of those that I saw earlier in the world.
Starting point is 00:16:19 And then I played some. Some Halo 5, Shottie Snipers mode. Shottie Snippers is back. It's one of their sort of seasonal things that they offer every once in a while. They say, hey, come play of this Halo 3 playlist where it's all the Halo 3 levels. Yeah, exactly. But right now it's Shottie Snipes where nobody has shields. It's just one shot, one, you know, one kill.
Starting point is 00:16:42 And I'll tell you what, for all the basketball nerds out there, they'll understand this reference. I'm the J.R. Smith of Shottie Snipes. Wow. Where I'm either, I'm either 17 and 4. Or I'm fucking 3 and 18, dude. And it's just so, so embarrassing. I'm the hottest dude on the field. And the next game, I'm just like, what is going on?
Starting point is 00:17:00 Yeah, you can get it together. But a lot of the levels are Halo 3 levels. And I remember them enough, but there's still so many sight lines that you just don't know. Like, anytime I would spawn, I'm like, all right, I see two open areas here. This should be it. Nope, there's a hole, like, right here that I got shot. You know, it's just a pain of the ass. But it's a lot of fun, man.
Starting point is 00:17:21 Played with my brother. my friend Frank so yeah we killed it last night hell yeah congratulations it's fun thanks and a lot of fortnight of course yeah speaking of fortnight what a what a great segue with there andy it's the next thing we're talking about fantastic we just played four night yeah what did you i'm more interested in what you thought of four night because you don't play
Starting point is 00:17:37 a word is awesome and like there is a very satisfying feeling once you understand even the basics of the building just to like kind of like like i make a ramp because you guys are obviously so much better than me and i was playing with you two and nick um but i never felt that far off from everybody. At least I could kind of keep up. I'm not good at first person shooters. I'm not good at third person shooters.
Starting point is 00:17:57 So it's like once I had to get engaged with anybody, it was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I got a kill, felt good about that. I beg a differ. Everybody who's watching this probably watched the Halo party mode that we did were Tim tore it up. Yeah. Tim killed me several times and I thought I was going to sweep that whole day. You didn't know. And you had a different idea.
Starting point is 00:18:15 A lot of luck there. A different idea. But no, Fortnite, it's like I love the idea of the Battle Royale games. and I had a great time with PubG, but it's like one of those things, I'm not the type person that's going to invest all this time into getting good at these games.
Starting point is 00:18:30 But even the little I played Fortnite, I'm like, I love how much you guys know about it when it's like, when we're in the fucking bus. And it's like, even Nick knows when you call out salty shores or whatever.
Starting point is 00:18:42 He doesn't need to pull up a map and whatever. He knows exactly where that is. And it's like, that's good game design, man. It's like when you come up with these like,
Starting point is 00:18:49 identifiable things to be able to call out and for people to know, and especially idiots like Nick, like real talk, jokes aside, Nick is not that type of gamer. He's a fucking moron. I've seen him put his shoes on his hands and go, why? I saw him. He got so mad. But seeing him get into it and like know what's going on and actually be good at it.
Starting point is 00:19:11 It's cool. I know that there's a subsect of the internet in general. It's just like, I'm so over Fortnite. And I get it. But, oh, I totally get it. It is such a phenomenon. on in this office in a way with us I've never seen a game beat
Starting point is 00:19:25 where yeah we all liked cart sure and we like there's strata of different cart players but for not having played with Kevin in probably a week and then on Monday morning we early and it was like okay let's we jump in there and like finishing those matches like dude you're good now like you know I mean like there's market improvement and the same
Starting point is 00:19:41 thing with Nick where Nick started playing and having fun with you you know a nitro rifle on your Twitch streams and having fun of being goofball but now he is legitimately into it and legitimately knows the difference between weapons and is answering questions for you and explaining things to you on how to... And it's just... I know that sounds like whatever,
Starting point is 00:19:57 but it's a level of into a video game I rarely see from Kevin, let alone from Nick where I never see it. Nick got, man. He bought that Venom suit or whatever it's called. He bought a much of... Vertex. But it was all it took, right? Of like, hey, man, for this party mode, dude, that's stupid then he buys a whole much of stuff. Yeah, because we were... We played a mode for
Starting point is 00:20:13 a party mode coming up called Protect the President, which kind of swept over the internet earlier this month. Or no. I... No, I think it was July, actually. But different sort of streamers created emotes similar to how people would make zombies in Halo. So protect the president is essentially,
Starting point is 00:20:31 there's one person on your group who can only wield a weapon, can only wield a pistol and can only have bandages and shield and all this stuff. He cannot have, he or she cannot have any other weapon besides a pistol. And the other three people have to protect them. So we did that. And Tim was the president because Tim knows the least about the game. So we're like, all right, you'll be the president. We have to protect you.
Starting point is 00:20:50 And I think it's such a statement for a game where, again, someone like Nick is this into it and is able to understand the systems as well as he does. I think that's like, I think that should be on their fucking box art. Like Nick understands this game and like wants to play it in it and learn more, you know. I do find my fever for Fortnite's Broken finally, where I still love it and want to play it. You guys are like, let's jump in. I'm like, totally let's jump in. But the past few weeks, it's been behind the eyes like, fuck, can we get whatever we're doing done? I get home can I just fucking play and like I like the last two nights I've just read comics like
Starting point is 00:21:25 it's been like that thing of like okay cool like I still want to play and I'm going to play more and hang out and do everything but I'm not where I was of like I need to be playing this every fucking second of the day I've I've been fucking itching for it because I've I'm going to be taking five days off after RtX yeah so I'm having to prep these party modes early yeah so a lot of my nights have just been editing and it's like oh I'll get a text from bear like yeah you are Ronduro's like oh I really shouldn't but I you know maybe in a bit and I just never get to it. I think part of it.
Starting point is 00:21:53 Playing today was a blast. It's that we're starting, the dam is starting to crack and break for the rest of the year. Exactly. Where it's like, you know, I got my overcooked two code on Switch and put it on there. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:22:03 sure, but I want to platinum it. And then that just, that code just wrote in for PlayStation 4 and it's like, go to RTS, but when I get back that and then Octopath for a while was, you know, basically I was at home or if I was to Wi-Fi, I'm playing Fortnite.
Starting point is 00:22:15 And if I'm not, I'm playing Octopath. Octopath was, you know, eating up so much time as well. and then got everybody to chapter two now in Octopath and discovered, as I was telling you last night at dinner, right? Like, cool, you know, Primrose is level 22,
Starting point is 00:22:29 the other guy on the team is 21, whatever. Okay, let's do this mission that's 21, level 21. And as I'm going through the dungeon, I'm like, man, these guys are harder. They're hitting harder than most other people have and then to get to the boss and just get obliterated. And then I look down to like my other guy is like, you know, 12 and Tressa is like 13. And I'm like, oh, fuck.
Starting point is 00:22:48 And I googled like, where to grind? Where to grind an Octopath and like, and like I was reading the Polygon article. It's like, you know, it is a traditional JRP, which means lots of grinding. And it's like,
Starting point is 00:22:57 okay. Like that's, that's, that's, that point in it. And that's the thing where it's like, it's, we're going,
Starting point is 00:23:01 you know, tomorrow we're on a plane to RTX. And I totally intend if I don't fall asleep immediately to play Octopath the whole way. And I like, I bought that, or didn't buy the, the anchor sent us that battery,
Starting point is 00:23:10 two battery packs, right, that are the one they've designed now for switch or that are labeled for for switches and one's 10 hours and one 15 hours. the 15 hours totally already in my bag for prepping mentally for London. Like I totally intend those flights and everything to be Octopath, but I don't think it's going to be a game that maybe chases me as it was already chasing me like, oh, fuck, I was actually enjoying my bus rides to and from work because I was playing it. I'm going to keep playing it there, but I'm not as like, oh, fuck, I got to play that. Speaking of the little power charger thing from Anchor, I want to talk about the 8-bit dough controller that I keep raving about on the show.
Starting point is 00:23:43 I got the Super Nintendo one, the SN30 Pro. I think is what's called. And I fucking love the things, what I use as my pro controller whenever I play. I bricked mine, which was not fun. You bricked this controller. I bricked the controller.
Starting point is 00:23:56 It's USBC, but the, and I'm not a fucking scientist. I don't know about it. You don't have a business screen. You know a science. You're not a scientific rocket. But the USBC cord that it comes with,
Starting point is 00:24:07 I assumed I'd be fine to like trade it out for like the Nintendo switch USBC or just other USBC things I have. I plugged it into one of my anchor. power core battery things not the officially Nintendo licensed one and it just straight up brick the thing they like it just wouldn't turn on
Starting point is 00:24:24 no I didn't notice but I just saw the lights weren't turning on and then I went to use it I was like oh fuck it was like an immediate thing of it just didn't work anymore too much amperage or whatever yeah then I looked it up online apparently it's a common problem and it just sucks because USB the U stands for universal so it's like
Starting point is 00:24:39 yeah what are the S and the B stand for serial bus hell yeah bro shit spy for like yeah that's a good turn The store, 204, best damn store, 691, everything but and fun. All things fun, 691. Every store had their own things.
Starting point is 00:24:57 691 was Georgetown, Texas. 204 was West Austin. 204, best damn store. Are we going to Pluckers this weekend? Oh my God, yes. Yeah, that's what I want to hear. Pluckers, Via 3-1-3. Via 3-motherfucking 1-3.
Starting point is 00:25:10 I don't know what that is. It's this pizza place. Oh, my God. Dude, it's like square pizzas. Yeah. They're good as fuck. Okay. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:25:16 God, Greg. Yeah. Oh, man. I'm excited. Getting excited guys. We got a Taco Deli. Oh, we have to. We have to do it.
Starting point is 00:25:25 We'll see. Maybe Saturday. The schedule's very packed. I was going to say, is the usual Austin trip already is eat on it. We'll see. We'll see how this all goes.
Starting point is 00:25:34 But yeah, no, I'm really bummed about it because I love the controllers so much. So what did you do? I bought a new one. Okay. Yeah. I do really like it. Was there like a warranty or anything you can?
Starting point is 00:25:42 No, so a bit though, like it's through resellers and shit. So it's like you'd have to deal with their stuff. They're being really shady about it. So you just learned a lesson. Learn a lesson. I guess I didn't learn shit because I bought another one.
Starting point is 00:25:53 But I learned what not. Well, now you know what they're not to do. You share the information with the people you've encouraged to buy the controller. Don't do that thing. I bought some joycons yesterday off of eBay. They are,
Starting point is 00:26:03 I'm very excited about them. Tell me about it. Described to me. They are crystal watermelon. So you know, everybody has like the old school like I can see through it. Yeah, everybody has like the see through purple ones
Starting point is 00:26:15 or the see through blue ones. These are like kind of pinkish-reddish. And they have the colored face buttons, the ABXY, red, blue, yellow-green, similar to the 64. And the left JoyCon has the D-Pad, which is the reason why I wanted to buy. I wanted JoyCon is with the D-Pad. I was tired of not having one.
Starting point is 00:26:35 I'm tired of using the four-face buttons or just the stick doesn't always feel great. So I'm getting that D-Pad. I should be getting it pretty soon. It just, it looks cool shit. Gotcha. And it was not terribly Priced. I think they're right. What, 80 bucks for standard Joycons set?
Starting point is 00:26:51 70? 80. It was 80, I thought, for the JoyCon. Or for the Pro Control. Oh, the Pro is 80, yeah. Maybe the Joycons are like 60 or something like that. I was not 80. Target's selling them for 80 bucks.
Starting point is 00:27:05 80 bucks. Got you. eBay selling them for 55. Yeah, so I got these for, I think, 95. And then with the shipping and all that or whatever. Yeah, so I'm really excited about them. I can't wait to use them. I just fucking love the Switch.
Starting point is 00:27:17 I love all its accessories and how easy it is. Just like I have different joycons and like, you were showing me colorware stuff today. Or you mentioned it and I went and looked at their stuff. I'm like, I don't need to fuck. I'm like, no, I don't need more joycons.
Starting point is 00:27:27 No, I don't need to do this. I always talk about this, but like Nintendo just did the best thing and worst thing ever for me, which is they gave me exactly what I'd want right out of the box with the blue ones. I'm like, they're literally perfect Tim blue. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:27:38 where I'm like, ah, I want new ones now just because I'm a fucking baby. I was so close to buying to, to instead of going for the only reason I wanted these was because of the D-pad but I saw somebody was selling a set of the left and right
Starting point is 00:27:51 hot pink no D-pad though but it was like 65 bucks for somebody took the left one from the American version and the right one from the UK Asia Europe version and and
Starting point is 00:28:05 selling it as a pair on eBay and it's so fucking tempting but I don't need it but I want it so bad yeah well I mean that's the story of who we all are and how this all works, right? Like, I was so excited at Comic-Con when I came off stage at Hall H, and they're like, the Spider-Man PlayStation 4 Pro, pre-orders are up.
Starting point is 00:28:22 And I'm like, fuck, yes, pre-ordered. And then it's just like, why did I pre-order this? Yeah. It's a sexy-ass PlayStation 4-Pro. Yeah. But I don't know how I want this one. Exactly. That's the thing.
Starting point is 00:28:33 And Kevin was talking about how he wants to set up the desks now, you know, and have, like, all the systems at everybody's desks so we can just do this. And I'm like, if that would happen, that'd be perfect, because I can keep my PlayStation 4-Pro. and then just cut myself a check from the company for part of the money for the PlayStation 4 I'm putting here. You know what I mean? Yeah,
Starting point is 00:28:50 then it just makes sense. Because if I knock 100 or 150 bucks off it, then I feel great. You know what I mean? I feel like I got a good, yeah, a good discount. A little trade in value. But I haven't had the heart to cancel it because I talk such shit that I wanted it and I'd pay for it. Now that it's here.
Starting point is 00:29:01 It's like, I've fucking think it's a beautiful system. And it's like, I don't know it. I did like the fan recreations of that pro. Did you see them sort of going around the internet? No. Some people, when that, when that Spider-Man Pro came out, there was a lot of people who,
Starting point is 00:29:13 who implemented different colors and kind of fucked around with their own schemes. And I love when people do that. Yeah. And a lot of them are like, there was that fake that had been circulating
Starting point is 00:29:21 for a few months that people were like, is this the real pro? This would be a cool pro. And it was similar to what they've released, but it did have the blue in there and stuff. You should pay 800 bucks for a colorware PS4 pro.
Starting point is 00:29:31 No, I think they're like 900, but they do the, uh, the PS2 version where it's all black and it says PS4 and that blue sort of green gradient. Yeah, it looks so great.
Starting point is 00:29:41 Yeah, I go on colorware. once in a while and just kind of like fuck around with the products and I go start going through and that shit gets expensive. It's like when you build your car. It's like, oh, it's not that bad. And then you start adding all the things that's like, oh, do you want to do the back as well? Do you want to do the buttons? I'm like, yeah, I do. In the dream world, you know what I mean? We finally, I guess I'm digging in the backyard and I find a fucking gold brick and I'm able to buy a house in San Francisco, right? And when that happens, what I want to do. I know, right? I want to mount the TV on the wall and then do the
Starting point is 00:30:09 thing you see on Reddit all the time where people have the systems mounted as well. And then like the cool. the cool, like, stylized chords going to the systems and shit. Or the colors behind the TV. Yeah, of course, the hue lights. Yeah. Shout out to... Stick with me. Stick with me.
Starting point is 00:30:23 This is going to take a second. Axel Rose. Kazim, the old game from Frima. Yeah. Who, when they put that out on Xbox One, sent us Hugh Lights. Yes. Along with the thing that we never use that sat in the old studio forever.
Starting point is 00:30:36 Kevin has them now. Is that where they are? I never even know where they went. They fell off a truck here. Yeah, yeah. I mean, they were here for like two years. Exactly. I'm not.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Kevin took them home like. last month and you set him up and I'm sure probably was it I was gonna say I was gonna say he's like hey Google make the lights blue hey Google make the light's green it's just like can you just imagine Paul I was gonna say a day-to-day basis how often do you think Paul looks at the window like I can just jump out now and I would survive the fall and be able to run like I'd be able to run like how far could I run with this injury yeah exactly could I get to the bar train to get to the airport to get out of here I don't know if she ever actively thinks about
Starting point is 00:31:12 Yeah, but it's like... How often do you think she looks at the window? And she's like, with the right leverage, I can throw him out it. I need a good angle. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I got to catch him off guard. I got to use that legs. Kevin's going to fight. Yeah, oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:24 God. Jesus fucking Christ. Yeah, it's funny, though, the switch makes me want the shit that I don't need so much. Because it's such a beautiful stylized thing. I remember when I got those, the neon yellow ones that came with arms, Nintendo sent me those. And I was like, that, my photos, that seems stupid. And when I popped them on my... I was like, fuck, these are hot, and everybody liked them.
Starting point is 00:31:44 And then when Mario dropped and I was like, fuck, I like those red ones more. I was like, genuinely drone switch and bought it and then switched out, right? And then even now, though, it's like, man, yeah, the S&ES ones look dope. And like, yeah, I still love your blue ones. I'm like, fucking lost. I never cared about the joycons or how they looked until I bought that, the officially licensed sort of grip that they, that Nintendo sells were. It wraps around the whole back of the switch and the joycons. and it has these little pieces of plastic that jut out
Starting point is 00:32:13 to sort of... To emulate handles, yeah. And because I never played handheld because of that, because I hated playing with just... Just the way they felt... It just felt ugly. Like, I couldn't get a good grip on it.
Starting point is 00:32:25 It would always hurt my hands. My hands would cramp. But with this new thing, it feels great to hold. And now it's like... Because of that, I was like, oh, this makes me actually enjoy playing on handheld. When I was on that flight, I was playing hollow night the whole time in handheld.
Starting point is 00:32:38 When normally I would have... Ride down the thing, put the stand-up pro-controller. Dude, that's the way to live. It's a great setup. Don't get me wrong, but I, there is something so awesome about how it feels in your head. I love handheld mode, man. It's like,
Starting point is 00:32:50 I have all my complaints about the tiny buttons and all that shit. But it's just like, I, there's something about having the screen that close to me that just feels right. Like, maybe it's just like how much I spent time on the Game Boy and PSP and everything. But it's just like,
Starting point is 00:33:04 ideally, I would love Dual Shock 4 to be cut in half that you can just put on the sides of the switches. Yeah, yeah, of course. Oh my god, that'd be perfect. I do run into a problem, though, with just my neck, with looking down at a screen. Well, that's what I was trying to do, like, the armrest, have it in front of my face. But the thing that I bought that I had put on the internet several months ago was a sort of a little stand for the switch.
Starting point is 00:33:28 Yeah. But what I do is that I put it into the front where the little manuals are in front of your seat in the airplane. And I just have the switch like at eye level. Yeah, Pear has something like that, too. The best setup ever. I've seen Pear put it up. I think Pear maybe even Altono. But they have a thing where it's like, yeah, a sleeve they put it in.
Starting point is 00:33:45 They can wrap it on like the screen of a Virgin America thing. And then just play it that way. But for me, it's like when you finally hit cruising out, so they just like, bing. And it's like, let's go. Let's go down. Do this thing. Slot you in my chair and just, fuck. Yeah, I don't care how many hours on this thing.
Starting point is 00:33:58 You know what I mean? I just wish I could like, I want a device where it's like around my neck and it's just like a little stand. Sure. I just want to look up. Sure. My neck hurts so bad. Yeah. Kevin can have that ready.
Starting point is 00:34:08 You can have that ready for you tomorrow for this trip. Okay. I'm in, I'm in. Get me sized up and everything. No, it'll be, it'll be one size fits all. It's just going to be a toilet seat turned the other way. Like you lift the lids lifted and you just rest it there. When my 8 bit dough controller died, I still had the whole flight.
Starting point is 00:34:26 And I was playing Mario Kart. But I didn't have my pro controller. I didn't have anything. So I had to use the joycons. But I already had it set up on a little tabletop. I'm going to try doing the shit, we style. I pop those things off. And I was just fucking playing.
Starting point is 00:34:38 And I just got super comfortable in one of those like awkward ass situations. Yeah, yeah, like lead up against the wall. And I was kind of my arms across and I was just playing. I'm like, this is fucking awesome. Like it reminds me of when controllers like first went wireless, like the wavebird for me, I think it was my first wireless controller. And I just remember being able to be at home straight up, Obi-Wong Kenobi style on a blanket like totally wrapped up.
Starting point is 00:34:58 And just having the controller on the inside play and being like, this is the fucking future dog. That's how I felt. I forgot what plane I was, what flight I was taken, but I was playing that game Blossom Tales. that sort of Zelda is. Yeah, yeah. And that's the first time where I think my pro controller was dead
Starting point is 00:35:14 because the thing just lives forever. You never expected to die. But I think I'd been playing it for like several weeks straight and it finally died. And so what I did was like I had that setup where I had the switch still in front of me but just with my hands just sort of sprawled out to the side because there was nobody on my right side
Starting point is 00:35:31 and I was just like two joycons in each hand. I was like, this is awesome, man. It feels so good, yeah. And then I saw your water field case and I was get jealous of that thing because I'm just like oh it's so nice sf bags.com. Yeah and like they've always done such great products and I always look at the the F2. They have the one that you have this little like slip case and there's the bigger one.
Starting point is 00:35:51 I have the bigger one Kevin has a slip case. Got it. Okay cool. Well I was looking at Kevin's today and I as nice as it looks I don't like the amount of protection it has. Really? Yeah. Oh you're saying there's not enough protection in the slip case.
Starting point is 00:36:04 Yeah. It's just like I have the officially licensed Nintendo one that was like $10 or whatever when it's come out. And it's kind of perfect. Like it's so sleek and there's room for 10 game cards, which are most of my games are digital. It's so hard to go back and pick another one up though because I use the bigger one, right?
Starting point is 00:36:19 That's the one I use for my Vita version, but I'm like, like, honey, I shrunk the kids where they blew it up a little bit. It's just bigger that. And it's got so much padding in there. I feel like that thing's so safe. Yeah. And when I'll pick up Jen's,
Starting point is 00:36:30 she's using the Mario Odyssey bundle, that red case there that has the zipper on it, or even Knicks. I pick, like, because Nick left, His, we were using him at Comic-Con. He took off, you guys took off early, so I still had his. And, like, putting that in my bag, I'm just like,
Starting point is 00:36:45 oh, my God, this thing feels so not protected. Whereas mine, I feel like, I don't even, I put it in the bag, and I don't worry about if the bag rolls or anything, because there's so much protection in there. It's got all my cards in there. The Nintendo one I use has, like, light padding on both sides. I think I have the same one you do. It kind of holds the analog sticks in place,
Starting point is 00:37:00 but if you clicked on it, you can hear the clicks of the analog sticks. So I'm like, it's good enough, but, like, I don't need this thing to be a fucking fortress. No, me, yeah. I just toss it in my backpack and it's good to go. But I've looked at yours in the blue leather so often where I'm like, but I want it. It's just so beautiful. Do you remember how hard it was to find a fucking case at launch?
Starting point is 00:37:19 It was impossible, dude. I pre-order that shit day one. Yeah, that's something that I should have done and I just never considered it. And then when the day was coming, I was like, oh, I should probably get a case. Where do I get a fucking case at? And I had no joke when I was still living in Austin and I drove to like six different game stops, which is just not something I do. But I was just so desperate. And like, I just, I don't drive around, like, shopping in Austin.
Starting point is 00:37:43 Like, it's just totally out of character. But I went to, like, six different GameStops and three different Best Buy's. And I was so fucking frustrated because, oh, and GameStop does a thing where they have the fucking boxes there, but they don't tell you that they're sold out. They're just, like, the display boxes. Yeah. And so it reminded me of when, I guess there's, like, I can't remember what stores do it. But I'm assuming, oh, I get this box and I take it to the,
Starting point is 00:38:07 cashier and say, hey, I'd like to take one of these. And he's like, oh, those are just the boxes. We don't have it. I'm like, well, what? Take down the box. What system is it? Where what store does, has that system where you get the display box and you take it to the register and they have them back there and they fucking.
Starting point is 00:38:23 I don't know about display box. Toys R Us used to have the slips. Yeah, that's not. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I guess that we did that at Best Buy as well with when they were sort of cracking down on a lot of people like that.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Yeah. Like Best Buy. They put the cages next to them. What's it called? The Elite Control. Is that where it is? Xbox 1? Yeah. Fancy controller.
Starting point is 00:38:40 I went to go get one. It was a similar situation where you, they didn't have them yet to go bring the thing to the people, but they were still... I feel like, I think it's... It just used to be everywhere. I feel like... Not Best Buy, no, that's not right.
Starting point is 00:38:53 I definitely, I mean, thinking about this, I think at EB games, I remember when they started putting stuff out and you'd bring the thing up. They're like, oh, you don't have to bring this up here. We understand. We know what you want. Just tell us what you need.
Starting point is 00:39:04 That reminds me of Austin one time years ago. It was when I finally decided I'm going to get a Vita. Vince Young scored the winning touchdown. I went to GameStop and they didn't have it. And they're like, oh yeah, we're sold out. I'm like, I just sold out of the fucking Vita. Like, that doesn't even make sense. Then I went next door to Target, sold out, went to Best Buy.
Starting point is 00:39:23 I was like, I really want this thing for my flight home. But what the fuck? And it was like during that time where the Vita was like just being phased out entirely. And I was just shocked that I couldn't just buy one in stores. Yeah. I was like, what the fuck is this shit? I still, I need to give away my Vita. I still have the Vita that was given to me by you and Gio Corseye before I even worked at,
Starting point is 00:39:45 I don't even know if I worked at Roo's Teeth at that point. I know, I hadn't even, even, even, been hired by Rousie Tito at that point. Somebody had called me a coward and challenged me to bring the Vitas we had here to RTX for giveaways. And I was like, fine, I'll fucking do it. And I forgot about it till this very moment. Somebody called VIII. So you just reminded me that I got to grab that box of Vitas. And you'll forget again.
Starting point is 00:40:03 No, no, no, never. Here, I'll slack myself. note. I might know what? My buddy Caesar wanted mine because he likes he wants his JRP machine. Mario Card Caesar? Yeah, Mario Card Caesar yeah. Forget man. Marri-card 8 came on
Starting point is 00:40:18 he was really good. Yeah. My switch is doing a weird thing that I feel is common where my left JoyCon isn't fully staying in. Like I don't need to hit the button for it to come out. If you push a little bit, it'll pop out. I don't like that shit. I had a problem with my
Starting point is 00:40:34 my I think my up button was sticky and so on the home screen of the switch what did you do to that up button it would just go and it would go up to your profile
Starting point is 00:40:45 and I'd knock them down and it would keep on doing that I just disconnected and put it back in and it was fine controller's had that problem where it's like when you turn the C stick would always like
Starting point is 00:40:55 oh yeah it's like it wouldn't look like it but you'd turn it on and the game of the menu had that weird thing where you'd move the camera and it would just be stuck up there I hated it
Starting point is 00:41:03 That thing was so unreliable, dude. Oh, man. You think people are going to, you think colorware or all of these companies who are super custom about their shit are going to customize new, like the old game, GameCube for the Switch? No. You think that's going to happen? I mean, you have to be super boutique to do it. You know what I mean? I think colorware even like they, though their margins would be too small on that.
Starting point is 00:41:24 They'll be, they'll say null orware. As in no chance, no chance. No. Oh, N-U-L-L? Yeah. Cool. Yeah, that's a good one. Cool.
Starting point is 00:41:32 Cool there. Topic of the show time. Tats, Tats, Tats. I want to talk about Game of the Year. Specifically, Game of the Year so far, but more importantly, Game of the Year predictions going forward for the rest of the year.
Starting point is 00:41:44 What do we think some of these games are going to net out? Let's start with so far. What's even in the conversation? Obviously, God of War, Celeste. God of War Celeste. I feel like Hollow Night is in that conversation. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:41:58 Hold on. I want to write this down. I need to write this down. I need to be able to visualize it. Uh-huh. Um, but so my, I'm just giving them giving the,
Starting point is 00:42:05 oh shit. Oh shit. What was that? Was that a dead rat that just fucking. It was this part of it just flew off. Oh. I forgot the sound effects already. Man,
Starting point is 00:42:17 I miss playing Zelda. Do do do do do do, do, do. Totally did not like the DLC. I was really kind of bummed out by the DLC. Yeah. After looking forward to it for so long. Game of the year. 2018.
Starting point is 00:42:28 2018. G-O-T-Y. Goaty. So, yeah. I think Monster Hunter World's on there Is anybody going to argue me? No I didn't play enough to say
Starting point is 00:42:38 You didn't play any Do you I mean do you Yeah I didn't play at all I didn't even touch that controller Do you really think that's up there though Yeah For the game of the year conversation In a year that we've had God of War
Starting point is 00:42:49 Well I mean what Do you want me to vote right now Because then I'll give you one pick And that's the end of it No I don't know Fine it's God at war There you go That's it done
Starting point is 00:42:55 Good show everybody Jared's not here today Because we fucked up Scheduling So there is no mobile game Or bullshit Patreon I think a game like Monster Hunter World, if that were to be included, a game that could even be on that list, because it's similar, I think, in quality, would be like Far Cry 5, where it's like not this unstoppable, incredible, fucking perfect 10 out of 10 game, but it's enjoyable and it was fun.
Starting point is 00:43:20 And I think that if we're going to put Monster Hunter on the list, I think Far Cry 5 would be on the list, too. I disagree. I think Monster Hunter World was a way better game than Far Cry 5. Really? Yeah. And I'm not taking anything away from Far Cry 5. I think what you're just described for Far Cry 5, yeah. it was but I mean
Starting point is 00:43:32 Monster Hunter and I know it passed you played didn't or did you play? Yeah. I know it passed you Tim by was a movement right like everyone was playing that
Starting point is 00:43:41 and playing it for way longer than I think it and anyone anticipated I played 130 hours of it that was super weird like and I you know I casually liked Monster Hunter before it got Jen involved right
Starting point is 00:43:51 Kevin was super into it and then you're talking about people like you know a vampy bit me what has like four million hours in it now every time I see her put something up on Instagram it's insane Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:01 It's Capcom's best-selling game. Like it was this breakout hit that was awesome. And I think that of course, we're eventually, I'm sure going to wrestle with this of what is game of the year? Not what is game of the year? Like put your pick, but what does that even mean now? How do we define game of the year and kind of funny for 2018? And I feel like for sure, Monster Hunter World would not be my pick. My picks currently out of the games that have been released is God of War because I think God of War is the game of the year so far where it has all the pieces of a puzzle.
Starting point is 00:44:29 Whereas I think Monster Hunter. Obviously, it doesn't have a story aspect to it, but it does have that water cooler, your own moments and your own gameplay things to it, right? And the gameplay itself was so addictive and was able to draw you, me, and not, I'm not going to speak for everybody. I think that, I think that speaks to it. Detroit become human. Sure. Go on that list.
Starting point is 00:44:50 You're trying to rip, oh. I was thinking about just ripping it out of the chicas slate because this is still kind of ridiculous to hold. No, keep it out. I think it's good for the, yeah, it's good for the, what is it good for the gander, dude? It's good for the geese, man. It's good for them damn geese. Yeah. So hold on.
Starting point is 00:45:04 We said Monster Under, we said God of War. We said Celeste. Yeah. Obviously, I think Celeste. Hollow Night isn't a title this year, though. So that's what it gets complicated. It's a switch game. Let's even start that conversation now.
Starting point is 00:45:17 What? I feel like Hollow Night is going to be considered by many publications as a 2018 game because it's on consoles for the first time. I agree. I'm sure that even in previous years. There's been games that have been awarded that, that we're already on Steam. Here's the argument we can just start already. What does Game of the Year mean to you, Tim Gettys? I feel like I disagree with myself on it.
Starting point is 00:45:45 Because I feel like to me, Game of the Year is what is the game that is the talk of the year? Is the thing that everyone's playing. Similar to what you said with the E3 Game of the Show. Yes, exactly. Where E3 Game of the Show, I gave it to Cyberpunk because I was like, it is the talk of. As I always say, when we start these arguments on games daily is the fact that, yeah, that's what swung me, right? Well, I already lost the vote. Cyberpunk was going to be Game of the Show for E3, for kind of funny.
Starting point is 00:46:11 But I was like, I just think Last of us was a better game. And you're like, understood, but what is the game everyone is talking about? What is the game of the show? And it is like, oh, right, that's interesting. I think that Game of the show is a little more of a willy-nilly award, right? It's like, oh, whatever. We saw this. We didn't play it, or maybe we did play it, but this is what we think it is.
Starting point is 00:46:28 Whereas game of the year, I do think carries more weight to me personally and matters more in terms of like what that definition is and what we mean to it. Yeah, for game of the year, I mean, I used that line of thinking in 2015, I want to say, when I voted for Overwatch being game of the year because as much as I love middle year or solid five and a lot of issues and story pissed me off and whatever. Sure. But the gameplay, the loop, so fucking incredible, so fucking good that like personally that was my game of the year. But Overwatch was the game of the year. Like that kind of maybe not invented a new genre, but it defined a genre for sure with the hero shooter and all that. And, you know, to see it now continue to dominate the way it does. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:47:11 Like that was, it's similar to cyberpunk where it's like that year the conversation was owned by Overwatch. Yeah. I feel like the conversation was owned by PubG last year. Yeah. And yeah. And then I guess, well, this year is Fortnite. No, and this is something that's been a debate that's been ranging on kind of funny games daily and in the comments, right? Is Fortnite eligible for game of the year?
Starting point is 00:47:35 Hell yeah. I don't think, I don't think so. Let's take a step back to last year, PubG, where it came out last year, even early access, right? Yeah, eventually remember at the very end in December, like mid-December, the teens, they were like, cool, we're pulling the early access thing. It is a game. But from start, from that game being playable from the public to that game being. released fully to the public. That was all in 2017, correct? No. No. PubG had gone into
Starting point is 00:48:04 early access and was available to play on PC in 2016. Okay. I'm fairly certain. We need rules here, guys. See, because that's what I'm saying, because that would be the arguments against Fortnite because it's still early access. That game came out last year. Technically. Well, technically it's an early access. It hasn't come out, period. Well, it's playable to people. And early access, even being an option. Such a, yeah. I don't know how I feel about Hollow Night being part of the conversation just because I, like, what if it, you're saying because it's now available on consoles, right?
Starting point is 00:48:40 What if it had been out on Xbox last year, but now it's PS4 and Switch? That's different. And you fucking know it. I don't think it is. Yeah, dude. Steam versus consoles. It's definitely a different conversation. I mean, like, PUBG, sorry, early access launched on March 23rd, 2017 for the Windows version.
Starting point is 00:48:56 So it actually didn't have anything to do with 2016. It launched early access in March. Then it was a full release in December. Damn, it feels like it's been so long. Yeah, for PubG. So yeah, so that I can see an argument then for it being Game of the Year. But we ended up not giving it to that. Sure.
Starting point is 00:49:10 Like, I can see the argument there. Whereas with Fortnite, the conversation of the year, definitely. But even if you're arguing, yeah, best ongoing game, sure. But if you're arguing even that early access counts for a game of the year, the early access wasn't even this year. Yeah. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:29 Right. Yeah. But then with Hollow Night. But I mean, like, so I'm sorry. I was, yeah, you're right. I don't know if that, I mean, depending on how we define year that could disqualify, sure. But what if, so what if they remove the early access tag, though, this year? That doesn't count for you still?
Starting point is 00:49:46 Because early access began for Fortnite. I mean, I don't know. I'm just pointing out, like, the differences between these things. I don't know that it necessarily matters. I mean, Fortnite. There's something holding me. me back from thinking Fortnite is going to be game of the year this year. And I think that God of War, notwithstanding, like I just like, because last year we had
Starting point is 00:50:09 Breath of Wild, we had Mario, honestly. There was like other big games. Right. In contention for it. But with Fortnite, I don't know. There's just something about like, it was such a substantial game last year that I think holds it back from. I agree.
Starting point is 00:50:24 Being game of the year this year, even if it's bigger than it was last year. Yeah. You know? when Halo 2 came out, Halo 2 only got bigger because more people were playing online, but it could have only got
Starting point is 00:50:34 game of the year when it came out. Right. It's this ongoing debate of, you know, video games and video game critiquing and whatever you want to call this enthusiast press, right?
Starting point is 00:50:44 How malleable are the rules and what do you stand by and what is the thing you don't change anymore, right? Like, Fortnite, yeah,
Starting point is 00:50:53 obviously, came out last year and was big last year. It's only gotten bigger this year, sure. But I mean, on top of it is the idea of the simultaneous rocket launches and the things they have added, you know, from golf cars to shopping carts to all these other jazz in there, right? Like, the game is different and looks different and plays different than it did last year, right? When did Builder Pro get introduced? When did all that stuff happen? And I'm not saying that's
Starting point is 00:51:17 enough right there, but it is this, I don't know what the answer is. I, I, you know, am raised on EGM and IGN, right? So for me, game of the year means this is the best game that came out this year. But I don't I don't know if that's right as we go forward and games continue to change, evolve, and services continue to go on forever and ever and ever. I don't think it's outrageous that
Starting point is 00:51:40 somebody votes a Fortnite game of the year this year. I think the way to combat that is what is the best ongoing game category. Like we've seen with Ramos 6 Seed where when it came out, you know, it was thought to fail, right? And then it, you know, found a resurgence. And now it's like one of the most played
Starting point is 00:51:58 online games right now. And I think that that category is special because you can celebrate and award games for continuing to be good, you know. But yeah, I think I see Fortnite as the best ongoing game of the year. But I don't think you can give a game of the year. Yeah. I mean, what's funny there is like, ironically, those categories are, are lesser than. But those are the categories that are actually defined in a way that everybody does understand. Yeah. Like, nobody's going to be confused. I mean, I guess some of them get weird with like action game like what exactly does that mean. But like people
Starting point is 00:52:34 understand best multiplayer game. People understand best narrative game. People understand ongoing. But when you talk about best, you are just comparing apples and oranges together with hammers and shovels all of the things that are just fucking random. Yeah. Like what is the
Starting point is 00:52:48 the reasoning behind any of it? Like what for Fortnite? What if it's broken up into seasons or whatever? Right. Is there an argument there? Of course there is. Yeah. I think you can say that's Fortnite season five
Starting point is 00:53:00 is game of the year. You know what I mean? And that's where it gets interesting and weird. Someone, this is similar to my prediction last year, two years ago,
Starting point is 00:53:09 I don't know, whenever we argue about this, some reputable.com YouTube channel that people care about is going to give a Fortnite game of the year this year. And this is my argument
Starting point is 00:53:17 last year with PubG where I was like, PubG is definitely going to win and me and it's like, no, we listed 10 publications and I know for at least two of them or whatever
Starting point is 00:53:24 it won or whatever it was. Do you think they'll still? do that even though it didn't come out this year. Yes, 100%. Because I think this is going to be one of those things people, like, I'm not saying they're doing it for headlines or doing it for whatever. They're doing it to test the waters of games aren't what they were before.
Starting point is 00:53:41 And our old definitions don't define them in the same way genres are stupid and you've seen so many of them fall away because everything has an RPG element in it now. So it can't be everything is an RPG, right? Like you've seen it get harder and harder and harder to pin down what a certain game is in terms of a genre. I think it's the same thing here. And I think that as these games continue to dominate the landscape as they continue to dominate it, it's just going to, it'll be shocking now and people will be like, as many people have been in it, I'm sure, in the comments of this video. And people are yelling in their cars right now at their kids. And the kids like,
Starting point is 00:54:13 I don't understand what you're saying. I'm a baby. Yeah. I think there will be a lot of backlash to it of like, that's impossible. It didn't come out this year. And the thing's just going to be, it was the best game. It was our favorite game we played this year. Like this is 2018 in video games. was defined by Fortnite. In your game of the show argument, it is the game of 2018. And if that's good, bad, or otherwise,
Starting point is 00:54:35 is up to everyone else to decide, but someone's gonna shake that, that totally do that this year of like, no, no, like we can't sit here and act like any other game made it. And I'm obviously pontificating a bit here
Starting point is 00:54:47 as if I was one of them. And we can't sit here and act like any other game had as big of an impact on the fucking world as Fortnite did. And that's why I think it'll be game of the year. And I think it will be a thing of like, We understand this breaks the rules. We understand this breaks the mold in a lot of ways,
Starting point is 00:55:00 but it's what we feel as publication X or personalities Y, and we think that's how it's going to be. Fucking goddamn it, twinfinite, big money, Jared Petty, twinfinite people. But I think I do think it's, I think I do think it'll happen in the same way. I think PubG,
Starting point is 00:55:17 I predicted it was correct that PubG would win game of the year. I do think Fortnite's going to win game of years. You fucking got them, dude. You know what I mean? And I don't think they're wrong necessarily. You know what I mean? It's just like, I feel like it's such a weird thing where,
Starting point is 00:55:27 when we were at IGN and we would vote on game of the year Andy you remember these meetings well it was for me such a like solemn duty of like I want to get this right I want it to be I want I want to go you know where is the PC I need to go play game Xon so I understand something of it like I wanted to make sure that when people looked back as they always do and like IGN game in the year 2018 20 you know 19 20 to you backwards yeah to see what the game of that year is like what is the game? Because I think IGN's lineage and the way IGN puts out game of the year is like it's a time capsule. And like I remember that year they did the, um, uh, video montage. I think Tyroot did it or whatever going through all the IGN game of the years to get to announce
Starting point is 00:56:12 the latest one, the newest one. And it was like, wow, that's fucking cool. And that's rare air to be in. And that is like the biggest honor, the biggest site can give. And it means that in this year, gaming didn't get better than this game. And I feel like in IGN would have have a really hard time making the case for Fortnite to themselves and to the audience. But I feel like not that I'm saying we would and a kind of funny wouldn't, right? Like I struggle to think back and I granted I struggle to think back for all the IGN game of the years. I was there.
Starting point is 00:56:42 But like our game of the years, right? Like Metal Gear and Uncharted. Right. Like I mean like great things, but it's not like I think people are Googling that as much as they Google that. Yeah. Well definitely. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:56:54 I think it comes on to like how how traditional. your company is, you know? Exactly. Yeah, exactly. And that's a big part of it. I mean, I think the important thing is that each publication just has rules that it follows. Yeah. And I feel like our rules are we kind of talk it out and have that conversation so that the end result doesn't matter as much as the journey it took to get there, right? Sure. The conversation is the product. Whereas with IGN, it definitely is that like here's what it is.
Starting point is 00:57:20 Yeah, yeah. We want to review. We talked about this on Games Daily a bit, but, you know, video game, a game of the year isn't one thing. Like there's not a, it's not a. It's not. like the Oscars where there is a definitive, you know, best picture, right? And the game awards is the closest we got to that. But with Game Awards, IGN, GameSpot, like, Kotaku, all of these, like, prestigious places. Yeah. Get their own game of the year.
Starting point is 00:57:42 And that allows people to put it on the box and this whole thing. It's always interesting the range of games where, like, earlier I was like, Montserner World. Like, that's just not in that the same league as the other things. but it's like, yeah, it's going to win a bunch of games of awards. A game of year stuff didn't have awards on the box, you know? Yeah. Like every year there's 20 game of the years.
Starting point is 00:58:04 Sure. That get it from multiple publications left and right. Going forward the rest of the year, is there anything that we think is actually going to be in that conversation? Yeah, Red Dead. So we got Red Dead. Spider-Man? Spider-Man.
Starting point is 00:58:15 Things are going to be in there. Where do you guys think Spider-Man is going to land? Metacritic-wise? Yeah. I think it's going to be like a, an 8-5 to a 9 I don't think it's going to be this perfect game I think people will see
Starting point is 00:58:31 certain flaws in it whether you know I don't know what the flaws might be to them but you know in my experience I didn't love the combat in some moments but I think it's gonna be around yeah an 8-5 to 9
Starting point is 00:58:43 I don't see it going at lower than an 8-5 yeah I think it'll be in the 8s yeah I'm hoping for a 9 man you're gonna get nines you're definitely gonna get nines I'm just talking about metacritic wise right I'm going to be really fascinated to see if it just crushes the way we hope it does. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:59:00 I just don't think it's going to be bad in any part of its gameplay. Like I don't think this, I don't think, like when we think about like game to the years or like these incredible games, there's always one thing you can point to that wasn't as good, except for God of War in my opinion. But like in Spider-Man, I don't think that there's going to be like, oh, it was great, but this was terrible. Like I think all of it across the board is actually going to be really good. are fucking fantastic. Is there any chance against a 10?
Starting point is 00:59:28 Yeah, I think so. IGN? Yeah. You've played more than me. You know what I mean? And that's not you tipping your hat to. I don't think so, but I think,
Starting point is 00:59:37 I mean, a 10 from who? Like, I mean, people will give it 10s. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I just don't know. Big players in the game. Not like people,
Starting point is 00:59:46 everybody gives something at 10. Yeah. What I think is going to hurt it in a lot. Tens of consequence. What I think will hurt it in a lot of different things is something I noticed
Starting point is 00:59:54 early on before I got my hands on the stakes. It was that watching the demos of them bouncing around the construction site fighting all the people, you know, using the web grenade, using the different things. It was cool and it looked good and I couldn't wait to play it.
Starting point is 01:00:09 But Rose Colored Glasses, it looks like if I was to think of what a Spider-Man game would look like, it looks like what a Spider-Man game would look like if that makes sense, right? I feel like it looks like the way I remember all the Spider-Man games I played before on PS3 to PS2 to PS-1. Well, not PS1.
Starting point is 01:00:25 But you know what I mean? Looking in terms of that being what the combat is. And so when you play it, which I've done in preview periods and stuff, obviously, at hands-ons. It play, I feel plays really well. Feels really great. I thought that was Spider-Man for a second. It does these different things. And it isn't.
Starting point is 01:00:42 You can tell there's these updates. But I just feel, I don't know. I feel like the bar is already set so high for it. Everyone's already expecting it to be so good that you already start to worry. Are people going to come in and have lower it? or not meet those expectations of it. And so it really, for me, comes down to, I think they got,
Starting point is 01:00:58 I think the gameplay they've got down dead to rights, right? We've talked about it before when we'll see a cutscene or something from the early stuff that we've seen. It's like, okay, cool. Like, that didn't look great. Or like it looks like there's a lot of empty space over there, stuff like little things that I don't think are, oh my God, that doesn't look like a naughty dog game so fucking tank it.
Starting point is 01:01:20 I just think it's going to be a thing of you play it. It's like, maybe this is, is a really great eight game. Maybe this is a great game and it's a high eight, but it's not breaking through that level like God have awarded this year where I, for me at least, yeah, got out there and change stuff. But I hope that I'm wrong. When Andy told me all the stuff, he told me and the thing that's up right now, the game's cast special, right? I was just like, yeah, I can't fucking wait to play this game. Like, you know what I mean? Like, you're saying all the right things right now that make me want to get out there and just fucking get lost when I
Starting point is 01:01:49 get this thing and swing around. But I don't know how it'll shake out. Like, it'll be interesting to see if it can break through and do, you know, get out there. Because even think of it this way, like, Arkham Asylum, right? Caught everyone so off guard. And I'm talking about me at my first preview of Arkham Asylum to even reviewing it. Where when I reviewed it and I was like, guys, this game's a 9 plus. And people were like, really?
Starting point is 01:02:09 This fucking licensed Batman game. And it's like, no, no, no, no. It's amazing. Spider-Man doesn't have right now the benefit of surprise. Like, everyone's expecting this to be the Arkham for Spider-Man, where it's going to come out and fucking kill. So they have to, and I'm not saying that Insomniac's not up to it. Brian and the team and Bill and everybody at Marvel games,
Starting point is 01:02:27 amazing people. Full disclosure, I did the hall each panel. I think that they are up to the task. It's just a herculean effort of like, cool, you've got to catch people off guard with the story. You've got to have them hooked there. The gameplay's got to be going.
Starting point is 01:02:40 You can't have the camera getting stuck in walls. Well, you do. You got to like all eyes are going to be on this in the same way. I think all eyes were on. W.B. Montreal to fucking make Arkham Origins amazing. I mean, I think God of War faced the same type of thing, though. Everybody expected the last of us of God of War. And the thing was they just succeeded and they gave it to us.
Starting point is 01:02:57 You know what I mean? See, I think it was, I think that again, it worked at their benefit where I think, oh, it's dad of war. Oh, it's the last of us. But when it really wasn't, bring me wrong. Quality-wise is what I meant. Quality-wise, sure. But even then, I think you had a different thing where you were coming at an IP that people
Starting point is 01:03:15 were burned out on. And not everybody, but a lot of people were burned out on. Another God of War, right? And so we saw the early previous. You're like, this is different. This doesn't look like that. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:03:24 And like, this looks like, oh, I'm getting interested. You're saying the right things, but are you really going to deliver? Are you really going to make credos and interesting story and interesting character?
Starting point is 01:03:32 Mm-hmm. And then to get there, like, holy shit, you so far, you went above and beyond and did it, right? Like, that's not how people feel about Spider-Man right now. People love Spider-Man.
Starting point is 01:03:41 People are desperate for a great Spider-Man game. And so like when it gets here, yeah, but has, you know, I think they're going to get it. Yeah, I just don't know what it can possibly do to blow away people's expectations.
Starting point is 01:03:51 And it's blow away people's expectations on a grand scale, right? For it to be a game in the year, it's got a breakthrough boundaries. This is a game that, and don't come wrong, I know, obviously, MCU and everything else, like comics and superheroes are bigger than ever. But there's definitely a ton of gamers out there in the presser. Like, I just don't like superhero games. It's like, are they going to play it? Are they going to give it a shot?
Starting point is 01:04:09 If they see it and they're like, oh, it is just Arkham with Spider-Man. Who knows? Red Dead Red Dead Redemption too. Spider-Man so close. That's the thing. It's like, I wish I could just play it and how all the answers is free of this.
Starting point is 01:04:22 Oh my God. Mere weeks away on the show will have all these answers where I can tell you if it's a game that you're contended or not. Soon. Red Dead Redemption. Red Dead too.
Starting point is 01:04:30 What is left to say about this game other than give it to me? Yeah. I feel like it's another one where you worried at all? Yeah. I'm very worried. Oh, sure.
Starting point is 01:04:38 Like I feel I'm so interested in the actual sales numbers and seeing what this game actually does compared to a grand theft Yeah talking to Jared like he really believes it's gonna be the the second coming of Jesus and I'm like I just don't know that that name is nearly as big as Grand Theftado and it's like I know that people love the first one
Starting point is 01:05:00 But it's been a very long time and like that I know the YouTube trailers do super well and get crazy numbers and like there's a lot of excitement This game and it's gonna kill I understand it's gonna kill but Can it live up to the first game story wise is the online? Is the online? I'm going to live up to the Grand Theft Auto online And can it have the same type of legs? I'm not sure. I don't think the online will have anywhere near the legs that Grand Theft Auto does. Just because I did I what can you do in a Western world that that can you do with a
Starting point is 01:05:31 Western world? What can you do? I don't know. It's just that there are no jets. There's no fucking stunt races. Comes to make a solid point. Yeah, Grand Theft Auto Online is super goofy, right? They can do all sorts of stuff.
Starting point is 01:05:46 Wholes and vampires and shit. Red Dead Sun Undead Nightmare. Yeah. I know what I'm saying online. Like do whatever. I just, I don't picture fucking helicopters chases in Red Dead Redemption.
Starting point is 01:05:58 I don't know what that, what that, I don't know what it looks like. Let's take it a step at a time though. I feel like you're asking different questions here. Can it be game of the year? That's the more important question, I think.
Starting point is 01:06:09 I don't think sales numbers or how good the, if online can be GTA online, is relevant to that. I think the online part is. But I mean like GTA 5 launched with no online and then when it added it two weeks later It was borked all fuck and I never played it and then heist didn't come out for Ever I don't know I remember it before I'm not even like I want to say it might have even been more than a year before they got the high Yeah, but that don't quote me on that it was definitely months and months and months like I don't think
Starting point is 01:06:36 That hurt it and that's also the thing is like we've seen with Rainbow 6 with Grand Theft Auto online like you can't count it out for a long time Because at any point they could do something with it and they have such deep pockets. They can could, and that's my thing. They could delay this game again for a year and like try to perfect it even more. And that's, yeah, don't put it past them that they might play it again. Like in terms of it hitting its date, it's date though and actually coming out and doing its thing, like, I have faith as well. Like, am I worried about it? Of course.
Starting point is 01:07:02 I just, I don't like not knowing and I want this game to be amazing. And it could, it could see the same thing of like, man, what if it just, what if the expectations are so high for it, it doesn't do that. It, you know, it doesn't live up to home. The problem there is that every. rock star game now has those expectations and they've shown time and time again that they are able to meet if not exceed and granted that's in the eye of the beholder right i know people love or hate gtta four people you know gtay five i think was pretty much universally loved but i know armchair
Starting point is 01:07:32 quarterbacks later on it wasn't as good if people said it was going to be yada yada yada yada none of that really matters it matters in the moment i enjoyed the shit out of it me too i think that red dead two is going to land and i think it's going to yes deliver i think that they know what made red dead a successful And I think what's more exciting is that they know what made people not like Red Dead Red Redemption. I don't think we're going to have a Mexico moment in it where the story kind of dips and people drop off and fall out.
Starting point is 01:07:56 It's very similar to me, honestly, with Spider-Man in terms of the same coin. Where I feel like what a hold Spider-Man back from being a perfect 10, a game of the year, a universally, oh, this a 9-5, we love this fucking game, is the fact that it's insomnix's first Spider-Man game, which means they're going to make mistakes that I don't know what those mistakes are and I haven't seen them. but they're going to make mistakes, whether it's how many side missions are, the downtime between, we in this, waiting for this thing
Starting point is 01:08:21 to pop, there's going to be something in there that people are like, I didn't like that part of it. I wish that didn't exist, especially in a giant open world game, right? Because even Arkham, I would say Asylum, didn't really suffer from that kind of thing, but Arkham Asylum was you're on an island in a building pretty much. Like, you know, it's Metroidian, you're going to go back to
Starting point is 01:08:37 it. I feel like Red Dead is learned from its mistakes. Rockstar has the money to toss at this to make it good to delay as they want it to be delayed. To hire as many people. And I think it's similar into the Spider-Man situation of like,
Starting point is 01:08:51 people are going to want to love it. And like, seriously, what am I looking forward to right now? I think of Red Dead Redemption too. I'm thinking of me on my horse riding up onto a ridge as the sunsets and it being beautiful in me
Starting point is 01:09:04 hunting this thing and gathering these flowers and seeing my checklist of shit to do, right? In the same way, like, what do I think of for Spider-Man? And I'm like, why I can't wait? I want to swing around
Starting point is 01:09:14 and collect every, goddamn collectible in that game and I want to get all the, I want to get the coolest suit immediately. Like everything will be on once it's all exposed how to do this and how to get that, everything's on hold for me. Like that is a game where I definitely want to meet the review embargo that
Starting point is 01:09:29 PlayStation 4 is definitely going to travel with me whenever we get it, but it is going to be a game that I refuse to rush where it is like cool. I'm doing every fucking side piece before I ever move, before I have to do anything and that's what I want from Red Dead. And it is that Red Dead understands the Rockstar Devs understand what
Starting point is 01:09:45 that world is and what I want out of that and I think they're going to hit it almost almost right almost right I think what will catapult it towards a game of the air conversation is just like it can it surprise me story wise and will the acting be you know on par with like an incredible movie you know like and I think that's that's what I look for like I I'm a little bit more forgiving when it comes to gameplay or systems if I really really enjoy the story or the people involved I'm a little bit more forgiving. So, like, again, I didn't, I, I didn't love the way the Last of Us played. I, like, I didn't love the combat.
Starting point is 01:10:25 I never looked forward to getting into combat, but the story and the acting was so fucking good that, uh, it sort of made me not care that I didn't love the combat. What'd you, what are you done? I'm making, you know, this is talking about games I want to talk about. Okay, cool. But yeah, for Red Dead, uh, what, do you think I'm taking, like, a performance review of you?
Starting point is 01:10:45 Fuck, didn't like the last of us gameplay. Call him Neil Druckman. Cancel Andy Cortez. For, uh, yeah, for Red Dead or for Spider-Man, like, if it, if it has moments that really shock me or make me cry or make me emotional or blow my mind, like, I'm looking for stuff that kind of like, like, Game of Thrones level style, twists and things like that. I think, because just playing Spider-Man for as much as I did, I know the gameplay is there. I think people get that from just the demos they've done. It's fucking. Like, there, that's already like an A plus S rank.
Starting point is 01:11:18 Like, don't even fucking worry about that portion of the game. But can it deliver with story and acting? And shit to kind of like, holy shit, did you? Oh my, I would have never believed. Where are you at the story right now? Oh, my God. Wait till you do this next thing. Wait to see this fight.
Starting point is 01:11:32 And that's why, like, you know, as imperfect as Biocococin infinite was, getting to the ending is what, like, fucking catapult to that game for me. Because it's like, this is such a, this is such a Christopher Nolan. type moment in a video game that I love to see in games that, like, you know, obviously Christopher Nolan's movies are, you know, you can't really reach that level. But seeing that sort of things in games kind of blows me away.
Starting point is 01:11:57 Yeah. Do you think there's any chance that Red Dead beats out God of War for you guys? Yeah. I mean, I don't think, I mean, I'm not saying it will, but is there a chance? Sure. Like, you know what I mean? It's the same thing we're talking about. I'm just like, they know what they're doing.
Starting point is 01:12:12 You know what I mean? And they know how to step up and meet those expectations. Sure, they could fail, they could miss the market, could be a million different things, but I don't foresee that happening. If it is just,
Starting point is 01:12:20 I'm excited for Red Dead in the same way, I'm excited for Spidey, if I just want to exist in that world. You know what I mean? I just want to live there and see what it's like and walk through the towns. And, you know,
Starting point is 01:12:32 it's been so long since we've had a Red Dead. It's been so long since we've had a great Western game. It's riding not on the coattails of, but it is in the same movement of Westworld and all this stuff where people are watching that, getting them hyped Or that, you know, like, yeah, I think if you get in there and the story, story's fucking great and the gameplay's fucking great and the world's interesting to explore.
Starting point is 01:12:52 Did you ever play Red Dead Red Dead redemption? Like, fucking the stranger. I'm like, what is he talking about? Wait, what's going on? Like, you know, John's story in general, that ending, the epilogue, that, like, there's so many great moments in Red Dead and there's the one of me shooting that old man, right, that I was talking about as like one of my defining like, holy shit video games. Like, I just want another holy shit video games moment in that or Spider-Man or wherever. the big Nintendo game this year Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
Starting point is 01:13:18 You know I Smash Bros. Wii U was my game in the year that year that it came out and I forgot what it was 2013 I want to say maybe it was 2014 I was 2014 it was the year before we left at GN and I thought that game did so much right
Starting point is 01:13:34 and it was just there was so much content in it I don't know that this one can do I mean definitely I don't think it can be a god of war for me personally even though smash is my favorite franchise. I don't know what it could add that would give it that like umph that's not just hell this might be the perfect version of this game. That's the thing I feel and I'm not taking away from it. I know it's not a port. I know all these different things. I think that game's going to
Starting point is 01:13:57 come out and everybody's going to love it and it'll get a lot of respectful nods of the year on the top five for game of the year. But I don't think it's going to win game of the year because I just think it is holy shit. It's the perfect smash. It's everything we've wanted. It's what we've all want it from. I think it'll be on the top of a lot of the switch game of the year list, but interpret the game there overall, I think it's doubtful. The one thing that they can do is add a lot of killer single player content to the game. Sure. And I'm not talking about subspace emissary, like story mode stuff.
Starting point is 01:14:25 Like I don't need that. But like classic mode, if there's an adventure mode, like the event modes, like I want there to be a lot of content that is fun to play through as multiple characters in the single player that feels worthwhile and not just like tacked on stuff. I feel like even Smash Wii had a lot of just tacked on modes because of like just more more more and it's like well It's not good don't do the more to do the right the world tour thing they had that fucking sucked Smash run on 3d s felt super half baked and was kind of fun but like it should have been much better Well smash run I don't remember smash run is like it was like a five minute It was the single player mode in the 3DS game where you're in this giant maze that is semi inspired by some of the video games in Nintendo but otherwise it's just your Eric Smash bullshit.
Starting point is 01:15:12 And you go through this maze, collecting a bunch of power-ups and items. And then at the end of the five minutes, you have to face off and fight a bunch of people. And, like, your character's powered up. Like, it's like RPG elements kind of to smash. And it's like, some of it's cool, but it's like, that's not what Smash is about. So why are you adding all this, this shit that's not flushed out? Yeah. I feel like the challenge they have is, like, how to, how to keep this fresh.
Starting point is 01:15:36 And I know it's going to be fresh enough for, like, huge smash fans, because they're just getting the thing that they want. But yeah, I wonder what sort of things they could add. Let's workshop right now, Tim. I hope they're listening to us right now. I really do too. Fuck, we're going to get working on this game. Keep it simple type situation.
Starting point is 01:15:55 You look back to melee. Like they had classic mode, which is just go through arcade mode, right? Yeah. But the levels were themed and they were always the same. No matter what character you played, like you knew the order you were going to face the different opponents. And I feel like that there was thought behind it. Whereas in the later games, there was kind of just like a mish smash, random stuff.
Starting point is 01:16:16 Now you're fighting. It's a player smash. Now you're doing all. It's like, oh man, this is like getting away from the core of what this should be. But they added a lot of great things like break the targets and board the platforms and like these modes where every single character had challenges
Starting point is 01:16:31 that were smartly designed around that character. Once brawl happened, all the break the targets and board the platforms, or part of the popcorn wasn't even in it, but break the targets was there was five different break the targets that were the same for every character. And that sucks. You know,
Starting point is 01:16:47 it just feels like more, not better. Right. And I am a little concerned. I think that the single player content in this game, I think they're just going to bring back the World Tour shit from, or Smash Tour from Wii, and I think they're going to bring back Smash Run.
Starting point is 01:17:01 And I don't think, God, they're going to be very good. But if I'm wrong, that could be the thing that at least gets it higher than conversation for me. Is there anything we're missing? Yeah, a whole bunch of stuff That I don't know, I'm not going to say
Starting point is 01:17:14 If I personally think it deserves on the list But I'm sure people are shouting it out You all can take your shots You mentioned Detroit We didn't put it on the actual list Do you think Detroit Tim deserves me in the running for game of the year? I think it'll be in the list
Starting point is 01:17:27 I think it'll be in the discussion I think it'll be in a wide discussion But I think is you start narrowing it down To like here's the top five games I think it falls out Really? Yeah And I'm not saying I'm not even saying me personally
Starting point is 01:17:38 right. We're doing more like hypothesizing pitching right now in terms of like what we think is going to happen for everyone right with the game of the year. I'm still only like three hours in to Detroit. Oh really? Yeah. I love it. Yeah. It's a great game. Really good time with it. And I feel like it's a very high quality game. And I think that it just kind of came out at a time that it felt like it looked over. But I feel like the people that enjoyed it are going to be really right or die for it. I do think it's going to be in the conversation.
Starting point is 01:18:08 I think it's such a high level of quality that it is hard to look to look past when having these sort of discussions. Sure. So I'm like until dawn. Like I thought until dawn was great. But I think because of how good it looked and because of all the different sort of outcomes. Sure. That that sort of elevates it over, you know, a game that maybe doesn't is lacking in those in those categories. Utah Star Far Cry earlier.
Starting point is 01:18:34 I pooped that. But I mean, it's possible, I guess. But I'm like right now it's like a top 10 list, I guess, right? We have eight games here. We've said Monster Hunter World got a worse, Celeste, Fortin. Well, Fortnite's got a question mark. Probably won't be there. But I am saying somebody will give it over there.
Starting point is 01:18:46 I mean, I think it's in the conversation for sure. Red Dead Red Dead Redemption, Spidey, smash, Detroit. I think that Oxtapath Traveler will definitely be in the Switch game category. Yeah. Does it transcend to Game of the Year category? That's my thing. It's like I'm enjoying the fuck out of this game. I love this game.
Starting point is 01:19:02 Like I love so much about it. I don't think it's game of the year. I think it's just a really. fucking awesome game, but I don't think it like pushes the boundaries of what gaming is. And it's just a cool throwback JRP and maybe for me now at a detriment if I have to go grind a lot more than I thought
Starting point is 01:19:17 I would. But I don't think, I think it'll be on people's list, but I don't think it'll get the overall nods. Are we missing anything that's not out yet? Yes. Well, maybe. Depends on what you think, right? I think this is an interesting one, stick with me. I think Assassin's Creed Odyssey is interesting because origins, of course,
Starting point is 01:19:33 people really dug. And it didn't click for everybody. It didn't click for me, but like Andrea was like going to bat for that game. And so I think we're in a very interesting spot where a lot of people I think slept on origins but heard it was great and understood it was great. But then of course, Odyssey gets announced before we're even there. And then so it's like, oh, well, it's more of what origins combat was. Maybe I'll give this one a shot.
Starting point is 01:19:54 Plus we're going to drop in for the first time ever. Choose your own protagonist. Plus we're dropping in for the first time ever. Conversation trees actually influence the thing and make the character of your own. Like I think that's really going to sing for a lot of people. I don't know if it'll end up. making it on the short list. But I would say, like, I think Assassin's Creed Odyssey is a better shot it.
Starting point is 01:20:12 Right now, only, you know, fucking doing a little bit of preview. It has a better shot than Far Cry 5 of being on there. I think it has a better shot than Detroit, honestly, based on that. Just because I think people are going to be, I think Detroit, which I enjoy platinum, don't get me wrong. I think Detroit was, oh, yeah, this is what I expected from David Kitch and from Quantic Dream. Whereas, like, if Assassin's Creed is like, oh, wow, they actually did something different with this fucking franchise. Everyone is either burned out on or didn't care or played the, or played the last one and thought it was cool and they were going somewhere interesting with it
Starting point is 01:20:38 one month is that slated for that's uh coming up october it's before uh red dead red dead's the end october right so this is like up in i have it opening here i guess i could find it but it's that that must put assassins creed at like the 11th or whatever somewhere in there fucking video games man it's crazy we're here coming out fast right um i put on there i know nothing about it and i don't know but so for this conversation we're having of like what could be there right see of thieves no no no no do you think no i mean i never but I know people are all up on it. The people who are hardcore for that game.
Starting point is 01:21:10 October 5th for Assassins, we'll die for it. I feel like they're few and far between. And I think Cia thieves could easily be one of those that next year, all of a sudden there's all this content and there turns out there's this huge fucking community that we're all like. Best on going game.
Starting point is 01:21:21 Exactly, right? I was going to say fallout 76. Don't know anything about it. Oh, interesting. I still don't think it looks like it's for me, but if it comes out and it is a fucking multiplayer fallout and everybody's fucking crazy about it, okay, that could actually do something, right?
Starting point is 01:21:36 another conversation similar to Fortnite, right? What about this No Man Sky next? It's a sure it's a patch for PC and PS4. It's a brand new game for Xbox 1. Maybe it's the best ongoing thing again too, but it gets interesting in terms of maybe there's an argument for it somewhere there. I'm going to be interested in seeing if No Man Sky Next is talked about in two months. Sure.
Starting point is 01:21:57 Even like I know everyone's loving it right now, but it does kind of feel like a thing of the flash in the pan, like thing in the moment type situation. And then just for things I mean like I don't I wish him the best I love the last two I'm excited to see what this one is Shadow the Tomb Raider I don't think it'll be game in the year
Starting point is 01:22:14 I don't think it'll be in the conversation but you never know And then I put Overcook 2 on there Because I love it Because I'm gonna go is doubt All right I mean I'm feeling good Another another great year for video games
Starting point is 01:22:27 Yeah And we're not even Well I guess we're halfway Yeah we got a couple months We got a couple months in a lot of great Fucking shit to put LinkedIn it was fucking August suddenly. You believe it. Bullshit
Starting point is 01:22:37 dude. I'm crazy. I'm going to talk to somebody about it. I don't know who. I don't know who, man. It's something good. Yeah. I want to get to the post show. I want to talk to the chat. You want to get in there and actually see what's going on? I believe we'll have a good time with them, answer some questions. And he's going to sing them a little song. I don't know what song yet. It's a long shot. It's a long shot.
Starting point is 01:22:55 It's not going to be that one. We'll probably a different one. Hey, wait, hold on. I'm looking at the chat because I thought that'd be cool to have here or whatever. Especially for this, we're like, what are we leaving off the conversation? Full disclosure, I'll take nothing on this. My wife works on the marketing for it, the messenger, feminist nerds shot that. It's not going to be a game of the year, but like, I mean,
Starting point is 01:23:10 from my play it's great. Maybe, yeah, but maybe, I mean, looking at Celeste, I don't know if I would have just looking at Celeste, been like,
Starting point is 01:23:15 oh, that could be in the running for game of the year. You play it as something super special. Messenger, everybody who plays, Messenger loves it. I only played about a half hour of it, and I did fucking love it. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:23:24 but I just can't imagine. Yeah, I mean, getting to the level of Celeste. I love multiplayer Mario tennis, but I don't, sure. I'm not trying to,
Starting point is 01:23:31 hey, Hey, I'm just giving the information I got here. And then a couple of people call out Hitman 2. Interesting. Hitman did have a fucking hard ass core following. Hitman 2 is going to be one of those, you know, shadow hits because it did have the following. And also I feel the episodic stuff turned a lot of people off to it because it didn't feel like a real game. So I think it being a proper title could interest a lot more people.
Starting point is 01:23:57 We'll see. We'll see about that. We will see everybody. Until next time, Andy, eat this pen. Eat that pen. Oh, don't do it. Until next time, I love you. Thank you.
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