Kinda Funny Gamescast: Video Game Podcast - Goodbye PS I Love You XOXO - The Kinda Funny Gamescast

Episode Date: May 2, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:21 What's up everybody? Welcome to the Kind of Funny Games cast for Thursday, May 2nd, 2024, aka your final episode of PSI Love You, XOXO, XO, Volume 2. I'm one of your host, Greg Miller, alongside leftover, Poppy, superstar of the soccer world. That one goes that far. New York Game Awards nominated Future Class. Blessing. Yo, Yay, Jr.
Starting point is 00:00:52 Good day, Greg. Good day to you. We're sad day. It's a fine day. No, I'm not sad. Are you sad? Not really, no. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:01:00 Of course, ladies gentlemen, this is the last PSI love you, XO, XO, XO, but it's also just one of your daily games cast. If you miss the news and maybe you haven't caught it all, what we announced over on Monday was an evolution of our content here kind of funny. Basically, the fact that, hey, there are enough reviews, previews, great topics, brackets, all sorts of goofy episodes that we should be doing the kind of funny games cast every day. So that's what we're doing from now on 10 a.m. is kind of funny games daily. 11 a.m. is the kind of funny games cast in noon, of course, are the streams, followed by afternoon podcasts if we have them. Kind of funny is all about that there live podcasts. Those live shows you can watch live talk shows all day long. And when we decided to move the games cast to a daily format, we said, well, what do we, are we doing PSI love using next castes on top of that? And really, I think that's going to be a big topic today here of.
Starting point is 00:01:50 PS I Love You is the evolution of what kind of funny has become, what the games cast is, but what the industry has become in relation to a platform-specific show. But the long and short of it is that we said, no, we won't continue to do those. We will roll those into gamescasts. You will still get me and blessing here on this amazing Andy Cortez, PlayStation backdrop for the games cast. You will still get Mike in Paris and Gary occasionally
Starting point is 00:02:13 over there talking Xbox on the gamescast. The idea is giving you better headlines, better shows, the things we weren't able to do when it was. Well, we have one games cast and then two platform shows. And as I said in the video, right, bless, like, I really, I've seen the audience say it. We knew it because we've been working on this change a long time. You saw PSI Love You and Xcast really become, well,
Starting point is 00:02:34 there are reviews happening that we need to talk about, that we want to talk about that the audience wants to hear. So let's just do it on Xcast and do it on PlayStation, which when you're doing a third-party game on a platform-specific show, you really start to lose the identity of like, well, what is that show? Yeah, I think it starts to become a struggle, especially when there is so much to talk about. You know, like you, you would, we would get into weeks where it is, all right, we're talking about on PS Love You This Week, and it almost feels like we had to force PlayStation News to happen. Yeah, 100%.
Starting point is 00:03:00 You saw that a lot in the comments, right, which I think we're a bit too far, but maybe not that far off base of. It almost feels like this is a chore. They have to do this show. And we, that's the world I come from of like, well, we did, you know, for the success of Beyond was, we were there every week, right? we were doing this thing. I really do feel like that's, again, the sacred bond we have with you, the listener of viewer,
Starting point is 00:03:22 that we get to be part of your daily slash weekly ritual. So if you are wanting that play, if you're wanting one show, it needs to be there when you want it there and you get in that rhythm. And when it isn't, you go find a new show and things can change. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Yeah. And I think, you know, when it comes down to, oh man, this week, you know, the games cast is going to be, like, Tales of Kinsera, the PS Lovey is going to be the Stellar Blade Review,
Starting point is 00:03:44 right? Like, that works out because Stelvey's, is an exclusive, but you get into those weeks where it is, all right, I guess we'll review a third-party game on Xcast or a third-party game on PlayStation. I think on top of that, too, the ecosystem of video games has changed and shifted. And I put up a tweet essentially saying that like PlayStation and Xbox are practically the same console in different fonts. And some people were like, no, they're very different. But it is different than what it was 10 years ago, right? When I first started listening to Beyond of, oh, yeah, so much of my time in the PlayStation's
Starting point is 00:04:16 PlayStation ecosystem is defined by being in the ecosystem. You know, like, I get so many exclusive games, big or small. There's such, like, a difference between what it's like playing on a PlayStation 2 versus playing on an Xbox or a PS3 versus playing on a 360. Where now, as we've moved forward with things, I feel like how the industry has evolved, and also how we've just evolved as people that play video games. It's hard for me to be on a PlayStation podcast and talk about things as if, like, it is that segmented, you know?
Starting point is 00:04:45 like most so many of my favorite times have you been like oh i'm playing balatro i'm playing this i'm playing on steamed deck yeah like somebody like half the games i'm requesting on uh for codes or whatever are on pc or half the time i'm buying a game it's on pc so i can play on the steam deck so i can like play it on widescreen or whatever and there are also so many of my favorite games and studios that are on xbox right like i machine games when they when we talk about wolfenstein coming up or i guess not coming up but future wolfenstein or indiana jones or we're talking about doom coming from it's software we're talking about bethazzaa game studios putting out whatever their next game is not Starfield.
Starting point is 00:05:17 I'm going to say Star Real, but you know. But like, you know, I feel like, Shatter Space right on the corner. I might return or might not. But there's Hellblade, for example, right? Of like a game that I love so much, I'm so looking forward to Hellblade too. And I feel like so much of those conversations, might as well just be, hey, let's just talk about a games cast as opposed to me having
Starting point is 00:05:34 to look from the other side of the pond being like, man, I wish I could get into those more in-depth conversations about those games that I really love. I'm sure Mike and Paris and gear, whoever, probably feel the same way sometimes. You know, I think it's a, it's a, it's a, putting what we say all the time into a magnifying glass, right? Of like, we talk about kind of funny being this 11 person independent operation, right? And so when you have these 11 incredibly talented people, let alone a Paris, a Gary, a Janet, a part-timer who comes through and helps us, right?
Starting point is 00:06:01 When you start taking them and then go, well, you and I are this show. Mike and Gary are this show. Yes, we could go to those shows and do those things. But it reminds me of a long time ago a conversation I was having with Damon Hatfield, and this is a long time ago at IGN. where I'd been on scoop forever, and it was after Roper had left, and I'd taken over beyond,
Starting point is 00:06:20 and I was doing these things, and Damon was like, we were having a conversation about Scoop and I wasn't, like, helping out as much as I used to, and he's like, I just feel like, you know, you're not all in on Scoop the way you were, and I'm like, well, I can't be, right? Like, I'm the only one who has PlayStation in their title,
Starting point is 00:06:34 and I host this PlayStation show. Like, I need to be doing stuff there. He's like, oh, that makes a lot of sense, right? It's the same thing here where how many games or conversations could you or I or whoever be a part of, but you go, well, I have to make sure I have something for Xcast. I have to have something for PSI love you, right? And I think I don't want to say that there aren't places for platform specific podcasts at all.
Starting point is 00:06:55 There's so many great ones out there right now, right? It's just the idea of the way kind of funny has evolved and the way we really are like, shit, we are live talk shows, right? That's what you love, right? Audiences I see you popping off in the chat, super chatting already before I even ask you. You love being part of that dynamic. You love hearing the opinions. You love seeing different opinions, right? that's what I hear all the time.
Starting point is 00:07:15 Like, we have all these people. So let's instead of worrying about who's on the show in terms of like, well, they have to be there every week. Let's reverse engineer the headline back from that. Let's talk about what we should be talking about, what the industry is talking about, and then plug those people into those conversations. Yeah. And that's the thing where it's like, spoilers.
Starting point is 00:07:33 I'm still the PlayStation guy. I'm always going to be the PlayStation guy. I'm still playing everything on PlayStation. I have a whole bunch to say about fall at 76 and then the heartbreak of looking at Starfield and blah. like that is still who I am. That's what I'm going to do. Even though you play a lot of PC stuff,
Starting point is 00:07:47 you're still going to be playing things on PlayStation. Mike is still the Xbox guy. Yeah. Even for myself, right? Like, I think I am a PlayStation guy because I'm on PSLW, right? And because I do play a lot of games on PlayStation. Yeah. Another thing I mentioned in that in my tweet that I put up is that like I love Nintendo
Starting point is 00:08:02 stuff. Sure. I like PlayStation stuff, right? And like, I've always felt bummed out when we would be on KFCD and there's an Xbox topic and people would dismiss my opinion because of the XXXXXX. topic and I'm like well I bought an Xbox one like I have an Xbox series X like I've played plenty of Xbox games however I do it right like I didn't also didn't have a PS1 growing up I didn't have a Super Nintendo or a GameCube growing up but that doesn't mean I dislike those platforms
Starting point is 00:08:26 yeah of course I don't have opinions about those platforms and you know again like I think from the way we talk about the industry evolving right like I would say for me as a player I've evolved too my so I might be putting it too much but like I have separated out my gaming between different things in a way where, sure, like, I can be on a PlayStation podcast and make that my beat. But I almost feel like I'm excited for the beats that we adapt as we just do games cast generally, because, again, I'll play stuff on PlayStation. But also, I almost feel like my beat at this point becomes more, well, I like difficult action games or Souls games. I like fighting games.
Starting point is 00:09:04 You know, I like puzzle games. I feel like that is more of a exciting beat to have as like, oh, in a way that I can contribute more in that way, as opposed to be like, all right, I'm just going to talk about PlayStation. And in a sphere where it feels like playstation, like just focusing on PlayStation, you're just focused on Xbox or just focused on Nintendo is almost becoming a moot point because so much of it is becoming similar and crossed over with each other. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:28 And again, I think you can, for us and what we've been talking about, right, it is looking at what's the last year of content has been with these crossover previews, reviews. It has been, I saw, we already have a whole bunch of super chats, right? There's one here from Sky who says, PSI Love You Exo, Exo was a huge part of my gaming life, and episodes always seem to drop at just the right time. Gonna miss the unhinged bracket episodes. Thank you all.
Starting point is 00:09:50 I assure you, you will get unhinged bracket episodes on Gamescast. And I think that's for me where it's like yesterday with the Xcast, you know, it's so hard with as fast as the life, our lives move and decisions move and both what's happening here professionally and what's happening personally outside of it, right? yesterday watching the Xcast afterwards when Mike came out and hugged everybody and then listening in I was like right it's a different experience for Mike that was his first platform pod his first podcast right that he was doing and he was in charge of and yada yada yada and Mike's going to be just as big oh he's going to be even bigger part of the games cast than he has been in the past but in terms of an Xcast just as big of a part of games cast right but it's that thing for me where first off this is the second time PS I love you has died right but it is also that you know I said goodbye to beyond in
Starting point is 00:10:37 thought we I didn't I mean I always knew the door was open to doing another PlayStation podcast but starting our own thing we started with the games cast right where I was we'll talk about everything we'll still be the PlayStation people and yaddy and yada and then the audience clamored enough that we Colin and I were like okay cool let's do PSI love you right Colin leaves we shut that down and then the idea of what the DNA of beyond was because we stole that for PSI love you then becomes games daily and you it's funny now to be sitting here talking about gamescast being live or every day and thinking about well that's what happened to PSI Love You the first time, where it evolved into games daily of like, well, let's cover
Starting point is 00:11:10 everything and talk about the news and do that thing. And I think at the time again, that made perfect sense. And at the time again, I think the game scats could exist as a weekly game scoop style podcast. That is just, hey, we are giving you what we've been playing. This is the thing. Da-da-da-da-da. But again, as we talk about in this show and every other show, right, the fact that now it's just a fucking fire hose of content, getting hit with games, amazing games, week after week, day after day, that you're at this point where it's just, you look at it, it's like, well, I need,
Starting point is 00:11:41 I can't put even half of these games into the headline they need to be and have the conversation they need and then they get buried or they do this and do that, right? It's so much more important to be able to surface those conversations and go back. And like, you know, again, evolve PSI Love You Xcast into that games cast thing. And I'm super excited for that, but it also means that I'm just not sad because you and I are going to do this again in multiple times a week, right? Let alone games daily, let alone whatever.
Starting point is 00:12:06 Yeah. Yeah. I think that's the thing I'm most excited for is that these conversations are still going to happen. And in fact, I think having five games cast a week even might make it still that even more of these conversations are going to happen, right? Like we have more... Dude, that's the biggest thing to work with. When PlayStation is back to firing on all cylinders and has a million things happening in news and this day. They're like, Games Daily will be those news stories. Gamescast will be those hey, previews or reviews or whatever they're going to be, right, of what we've been doing over there. Rather than us being like, shit, fuck, okay, well, how do we pick God of War and last of us?
Starting point is 00:12:36 against each other again for a headline kind of thing you know what I mean? However, it is impressive that this is episode 216 of PSI Love You. A-216 area code, what's it? Is that Cleveland? Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:12:50 It's funny. 217 is champagne. Who almost got there? 573, Missouri. Missouri, what up? That's a lot of episodes. Yeah. I want to talk to you all about that, but first, of course, I'll tell you that remember, this is the kind of funny games cast.
Starting point is 00:13:01 Each and every weekday we get together to talk about the biggest topics in video games, reviews, previews, you name it, we're gamut about it, live on YouTube, Twitch and podcast services around the globe. If you love what we do, please support us with a kind of funny membership on Patreon or YouTube to get all of our shows ad-free, watch us record them live and get a daily exclusive show. For a chance to be part of this show, live as we recorded, submit your thoughts as YouTube superchats as we go. I'll toss a few more in here, right? Street Shadow said from beyond to PSI Love You, XOXO, XO, and 2.0. I loved it all.
Starting point is 00:13:34 Thank you. Only wish you would have had, only wish would have to bring in more guests like Mystic Ryan to chat PlayStation with the crew. I'm not familiar with Mr. Ryan. I'll look into Mr. Ryan because again, we are still chatting PlayStation every day on Game's Cats. Don't worry about that. No, we're never talking about PlayStation ever again. Fuck you, PC dork. Sky wrote it and said on the super chats, PSI Love You was a huge part of my gaming life and episodes. I already did that one. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. Aaron says, I found PSI Love You XOXO right as COVID hit. been watching ever since. Thank you, crew, for all the laughs and great discussions these past four years. Kabab says, I pronounce PSI-L-Y as silly with a silent P. I like that. Silly.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Silly. Huh. I get it. Yeah? I like, I'm sad we never did that. We should have fucking known. Cabob's, why'd you wait this long to tell us? That's what you did.
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Starting point is 00:14:37 thank you all so much. I'll miss the EO end of the year ranks. I assure you we're gonna fucking milk this shit out of end of the year stuff at the end of this. We were just talking about this yesterday in one of the meetings. The Smilies? Oh yeah, the company smileys. Yeah, you guys did that as a stream and it was a great idea
Starting point is 00:14:54 and it was super successful. Like, oh shit, we should have done that differently. But again, where would we have put that back when we were like, well, games cast once a week, but then do you flood it for one week? you do this thing, like, we can be nimble now. Do even more stuff, which again is what the company's all about. I was thinking about this, that this morning. Like, I was about to, like, send a thing in one of our slacks of, like, an idea for the end of year awards.
Starting point is 00:15:14 But I was like, well, we can probably get there. When we get to the end of the year, I don't have to like, you know, play it right now. But it was the thing of like, put in the, you got the tab. There's the tab on the Google Doc. And I don't, I'll put it out there, not with, like, the idea we're going to do it because this is literally coming from my brain. I'm not talking to anybody about it. But it's like, with five episodes a week, we could do a top 25 and make every episode
Starting point is 00:15:33 like building up towards like the top fives each right so like Monday would be 25 through 20 Tuesday would be 20 to 15 like so expand the thing where we feel in the top 10 yeah okay yeah yeah but like we have a way to do things like that oh yeah 100% yeah like I'm excited to see whatever we do for game of the year me too that's amazing uh super bloodborne live says mystic Ryan and Greg will be such an effective show they bears like we're not gonna get canceled if it was those two I love blessing blah blah uh mr Ryan we'll look into who this person is and see about bring them out. Some housekeeping for you. Of course, kind of funny is an 11 person
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Starting point is 00:17:43 Remember, ladies and gentlemen, if you're watching live, I want your YouTube super chats for your favorite memories. But where I want to actually start, isn't with a memory in terms of like, oh, hey, this happened on the show. That one time, Greg beat Janet. Got his trophy. You know, no big deal. Don't worry about it. Would you beat her in? Fantasy critic, you might remember?
Starting point is 00:18:01 That was a weird one, though. Also, was that... I think it was, it was PSLB versus X-Cast. Yeah, I fucking went on the show. Was she here because of the show? Everybody comes down. I mean, I feel like there's some conclusion. Why are you doing this to me?
Starting point is 00:18:12 I feel like, you know... We're never, all three of us are never going to work together again. Why are you being this movie to me? And we're never allowed to talk about PlayStation on this channel after this. Like, did you deserve that victory, though? I did. Yeah, that victory is definitely... Am I getting another one right now?
Starting point is 00:18:25 I'm cruising right now. I'm still early year. Wait for Microsoft Flight Simulator to come out. That's the real reason we're doing this. Blessing. The thing about PSI Love You, XOXO, Volume 2, 216 episodes including today, right? Launched in January 2020 when we hired you.
Starting point is 00:18:41 We only brought it back because you wanted it back. Why did you want it back? I think it was because I was such a big fan already, right? Of like Beyond PS Love You before, or PS Love You before this version, right? Like, for me it was a lot about the memories and nostalgia. like again, I had to go back to being in 2013, right? Where I had a PlayStation. I was obsessed with like the games that I could play on my PlayStation.
Starting point is 00:19:09 And I think it was, it must have been Lasfuss. That was the door into finding Beyond. Like being so excited for LastWest and like starting to listen and listening to listen to the Spolarcast, watching the review on IGN, listening to like people, you guys talk about it on Beyond. And then from there just like falling in a little podcast in general, right? I think I want to say beyond for sure was my first podcast that I had listened to and got into. And so like it started there, right? But then, yeah, hopping over to kind of funny, listening to the kind of funny content.
Starting point is 00:19:39 And then, yeah, PSLW being started back up or started up the first time. And that being such an exciting thing for me because there was, even though I like, you know, I just spent the first probably half of the show talking about how the ecosystem changed. It doesn't feel as like things are as different or as separate as they were before. listening to PSL Love You was such a good oh man I am only getting very specific PlayStation talk in a way that's exciting
Starting point is 00:20:03 listening to people talk about games like Severed listening to folks talk about things like Patapon or Geese Walker or Freedom Wars or things that like what was the one like the indie it was a PlayStation published thing it was like a theater style the puppeteer I don't think I would have heard anybody else talk about puppeteer in that way
Starting point is 00:20:21 or Freedom Wars or any of these games and so it was really cool to kind of to get this peek into getting deeper into the PlayStation ecosystem and being exposed to these things that like I might not have been aware aware of on that level. I mean that also that's a special thing and when PS I Love You went away I missed that right like that was the thing that I don't say it was like a gap in the kind of funny content or whatever because kind of funny was still killing it up until like PS Love you came back but I definitely missed that and wanted to bring it back and it be beyond in PS I Love You the first version being
Starting point is 00:20:55 so important to me in my podcast career. Like, it was just a dream to be able to do that. And I think for me, one of the big things, too, when I talk about beyond being my first podcast in general, it was also the thing that kind of awakened me of, oh, wait, this is the thing I can do. You know, at the time I was going to University of Illinois, and I was, you know, trying to figure out what I wanted to do with my life.
Starting point is 00:21:16 My first major was graphic design. And very quickly, I was like, I am. My passion is graphic design. Yeah, very quickly, I was like, my passion is not graphic design. I am not great at this. You know, I had to take drawing 101 and I got a D and drawing 101 because my drawing skills were terrible. And like...
Starting point is 00:21:31 Well, I mean, it's 101. That's where you should be learning, right? Yeah, but I mean, it's still got a D. We should... Fair enough. Tell you a lot. And if I wanted to keep doing that major, I would have to like get...
Starting point is 00:21:40 I would have to finish drawing one or two. But to get to drawing one or two, I need at least a C. It's all I was like, well, when I already take drawing 101, I'm going to do communication because I, it's general enough and like, I can see myself being into media.
Starting point is 00:21:51 And I think around then is when I started to get into IGN and podcasts. And having that third eye be opened of, oh, I can podcast about video games. And that was beyond that opened that up for me. Like, oh, I can work in video games, make this my full-time thing. That is such an exciting prospect for me. Like, I am in love with that idea. Um, because it was just what I like doing anyway, talking to my friends about video games and, you know, talking to my friends about like, why they should be hyped about this PlayStation thing coming out or, you know, having my friend Stevie tell me all about Final Fantasy seven. Like, that was, it was such the perfect fit.
Starting point is 00:22:24 It took a while for me to get there in terms of like actually making content that felt like it could get me into the industry because 23rd, I think 2013 is when I started listening. Around 2015, when kind of funny started, is when I realized that I could just do it myself. Wait a second, these guys are idiots. I could do this. Like I had focused in on media and stuff as a, like a focus of a major. Yeah. When I learned about IGN and beyond and started listening and stuff.
Starting point is 00:22:51 But yeah, it was kind of funny starting that made me go, oh man, what if I just started podcasting? And so I started a podcast with my homie Huey and we just talked about whatever. And then 2016, I moved to Seattle. And through the kind of funny Facebook group, found some people. Shout out to Alex Van Aiken, who now works at Game Informer. Shout to Moises Tavares, who now works at Kotaku. But I found this group of people that wanted to make content together and I started
Starting point is 00:23:13 OK Beast and it became this thing. And we became consistent with it because I'll listen to you guys talk about, hey if you want to do this you got to be consistent with it got to be there and so i was doing it every single week and uh yeah like as i did that once i got the opportunity to do kind of funny up-and-comers it was the conversation of okay if you came if what would you want to do what show would you want to bring back for kind of funny for me the answer was so easy because beyond is what started at all yeah um and so yeah like it was such it was an easy one an easy pick for me uh blessing really quick. Why did you stop
Starting point is 00:23:44 continuing content with Huey and why didn't you introduce, you know, his brother's Louis and Dewey to like all make... Nailed it. Oh, yeah. That's a good point. It's because I moved. It's the actual reason. It's because I moved from Champaign to Seattle. So then my question for you is, we, I've asked you that question before. It's funny, I went back and listened to episode one
Starting point is 00:24:03 of PSI, Love You, XO, XO, Volume 2. You're very much on point. You're more eloquent now, but we'll get to that in a second. My question now here at the end of volume 2 is, did it do what you wanted. Yeah, I think so. I think the thing I liked most about this run of PSL of you is that even in the midst of having KFGD and having gamescast and having other shows, I remember when you're bringing me on, one of the conversations that we had, I think, over lunch and with Tim is like, how do we make PSLW feel different from KHD and also gamescast, right? Video game news is all covered on KHD. General topics are all covered on gamescast. Can we make a new version of PSLW feel distinct enough?
Starting point is 00:24:42 And I think it might take a little bit to get there, but when PSW was firing on all cylinders, I think it truly was there. Like this was, I think at many points to the show I was looking forward to doing the most just for the fact of it was us preparing a thing. We were the most, I think me and you are probably the most in tune with like preparing a document. Yeah. And actually planning out topics and actually being like, yeah, let's prep a thing. And I don't know. Like I think there's something that has always been very special about that. I think that's going to continue with gamescast as we've been like sitting down and doing our meetings and all the stuff.
Starting point is 00:25:11 But yeah, like I think it had so much identity through that. Bringing on Janet really helped even like propel that further in terms of PSLV building its own identity and its own dynamic and us getting into really nerdy PlayStation conversation. And yeah, I for sure think I got there. Oh, my God, 100%. You know, I think, again, that was the challenge of bringing the show back is what you just nailed. We already have games daily and we already have games cast.
Starting point is 00:25:34 You want to, you come back and it's such a success story, right? Of your the first up-and-comer class, you came, we got you to come more. work here on your up-and-comer. You said that. Why not? Let's go. That's a fun thing. And then, of course, down the road of eventually getting Mike and Gary to go start X-Cast. But it was the idea of how do you differentiate, right? And again, for me, that was a bit of a quagmire in the way, like I said, right, or like beyond evolves into PSI-Love-U, PS-I-L-Love-U, evolves into games daily. And so to then go backwards to a degree, how do you make PS-I-I-Love-you-this? And I had a conversation before we announced this change, but I think also telltale of the
Starting point is 00:26:10 change with somebody on Twitter who hit me up and was like respectfully like you know you originally pitched p s i love you is like this magazine to the newspaper that is games daily i don't feel that and i was like you really don't like i and i because i did of like you know from my magazine journalism days right of like you know when you're building a magazine you have these appetizers in the front the short little things that are you know getting there and you get larger and larger then you get to the main course which is your cover story your middle of the magazine and then you start doing the dessert courses to get smaller and smaller on the way out right and so for me Although the show's changed, you know, modularly throughout of it, right?
Starting point is 00:26:43 Again, you go back and look at everything we had in episode one. Like, I forgot all about, like, we used to open with what have you been playing, right? You had no nickname. We're into the news. We had that 104 PSN games ranked. I think about that often. I never think about that. Like, we were, like, playing a new, laying a game every week that we were going to come and talk about on PS Loevi.
Starting point is 00:27:03 That was just randomly picked from the drop that they used to on the PlayStation blog. And I think back to how many random games I played in 2020. Yeah, of course. I play Graveyard keeper for some reason. And again, like, that's what I think this show was designed as and what it was supposed to be, and how do you differentiate? Well, it's like, well, if we're going to be playing the big stuff and reviewing on Gamescast, how do we play something and talk about it here?
Starting point is 00:27:23 So it was these smaller things. And again, to your point of, like, the systems are so similar now in 2024, right? There is that thing. And I'm not, again, like, I'm not at all saying, I think platform-specific podcasts and audiences are dead. Of course not. That'd be a silly fucking thing to say you see the success of beyond of sacred symbols, right? Of McCaffrey's Xbox show that I always want to call three red lights.
Starting point is 00:27:47 Thank you. God damn it. I'm just so old. I want to say three red lights, right? But it's like for the way we were making content kind of funny and what we do with it to go down those roads of like, is the graveyard keeper thing facilitating the conversations we want to have and folks want to hear? And so
Starting point is 00:28:03 it was that thing where it was like, this is a fun, goofy idea, right, of playing games nobody's heard of, but I don't think necessarily people wanted to hear about those games, period. And so what it is, it's a fine, it's a whatever. I'm putting it here, I'm putting it there. Da-da-da-da. It's like, okay, well, moving it around and go.
Starting point is 00:28:17 Back to my magazine thing, like, we still had that here at the final gasps of PSS I would be right, where you have, all right, let's get into a PSN message. Here's topic of the show and here's something to get you out. And so it was there and it was doing it. But again, like, is that the best use of our time for, and the limited time 11 people have to use this one space to do that one thing? and like I know I talked about this a bit on the announcement town hall with Tim but like when you talk about the team we've built out there
Starting point is 00:28:48 you talk about the way kind of funny has evolved I mean let alone from your four years here since 2020 but like in the nine years of it right and like when Tim and I were off on our own like planning what was going to become Coco this year and there was this well you know Tim's always like oh just blow it all what if we blew it off what's the right call and I was like, and I don't know who said it, but we both got there of like games cast every day,
Starting point is 00:29:11 right? Like there's so many topics, so many reviews. We could do this. We could kill it. It'd be great. When we, Tim, if you remember in Coco,
Starting point is 00:29:17 the content conference we did, like half-heartedly said that. Do you remember this where he's like, well, he's like, well, if we really, like, with something Greg and I've kicked around, but it's not,
Starting point is 00:29:26 like, if we really wanted to, it would be games daily and then it'd be games cast and then it would be streams. And I'll never forget you said, well, why aren't we doing that? And it was like, let's fucking go.
Starting point is 00:29:35 Like, you know what I mean? Of like, again, like, let's talk about the team we have out there and the vision we have as a company that we can sit there and be like, literally nothing is sacred. Like this show, PSI love you, right?
Starting point is 00:29:46 That is the, you know, the evolution of beyond, which is the whole reason all of this shit exists, right? It's because Jeremy Dunham, Chris Roper and Jeff Haynes
Starting point is 00:29:53 were like, we're going to go do a PlayStation podcast, Greg, come on. I'm like, all right. You know what I mean? This kick us off that way.
Starting point is 00:29:58 Like, to be able to be like, that doesn't fit who we are right now. And it doesn't fit the conversations. it seems our audience wants us to have, right? Like, we want to be that ESPN network to a degree. And I know not many of your sports fans, but like, you know what I mean? Where it is that you can go through
Starting point is 00:30:13 and have these conversations. And I think you put it eloquently earlier, right? Of like, you're not the PlayStation guy. You're the puzzle poppy. You're the soul's guy. You know, they're the genres that people come to you to know about, right? And I think that is where this is more than ever.
Starting point is 00:30:29 And I think I am still the PlayStation guy, right? Like, I, you know, I'm requesting a code for Ghost of Sushi Mood at a PC. Do I give a fine fuck how it looks on a PC? Of course not. I just want to see how this PlayStation app works and what the trophies are and how, you know what I mean? And like, yeah, I'll be on fucking Gamescast talking about that one aspect of it. You know what I mean? And that works and that makes sense.
Starting point is 00:30:48 And I think that is the power of where we are now. And to go back to January 2020 to episode one and starting the show and seeing you do it, like, I know people can imagine. imagine, but I don't think you know until you sit here and do this as long as I have and now, as long as you have, right? But like, you were thrown in the deep end. And that's how we do everything. That's kind of funny, because there is no minor league. There is no go train to do this, right? But you were tossed in not only on the games daily front, which is funny because in episode one, I'm like, how's day what are you? Like, I've only done games daily. I don't know what I've done
Starting point is 00:31:27 yet. But like, to see you grow and see you evolve and see how, it's one of those things of like, I think it sounds insulting and I don't want to say it, and this is kind of funny not to you, or I guess the product really, but I feel like Kind of Funny's vision has outgrown this show and outgrown X-Cast. And again, I wholeheartedly
Starting point is 00:31:51 expect and imagine one day, the visual shift and the industry will change and it will make and maybe the team's bigger and it makes sense suddenly to be like, we should do PlayStation Xbox and Nintendo shows, right? but we did them in a way that gave you so many at-bats. And so it wasn't by design to do that. But the fact that, and I've said it to you privately, I think many a time in your meetings or whatever,
Starting point is 00:32:14 of how good you are at this. And not that you were ever bad at it. But again, like, I got to come on at GameScoop 22 or whatever, right, and start working my way through. And to use the beyond analogy, right, like when Roper got laid off of IGN and I took over beyond, that was in the late 90s, middle 90s of the episodes, not the years. I'm not that old.
Starting point is 00:32:36 And I remember episode 150 being the one where we debuted the logo and I had Beyond shirts. And it was me, Colin and Clements. And it was like such a statement of like, we finally have this. And that's 50 episodes, right? So I've always talked about like getting your groove in a podcast takes so much time. And I think you and I had it from the beginning to a degree. But I do think there was that, you know, you were coming in. like so many people would of you're coming in from the audience.
Starting point is 00:33:03 You're coming in as a fan. You're sitting down and I have to imagine, tell me if I'm out of school, there's like a moment of like, I'm fucking on this show with Greg. I'm like, okay, I don't want to sound dumb. That was legit like probably the first year and a half of me working here. And I mean, and again, so like if you're an audience member and you need to know how great blesses, think about that in his head for a year and half. And think about the fact that two and a half fucking months in COVID hits. And suddenly he's locked in a room and suddenly we're all learning how to podcast through
Starting point is 00:33:28 Discord windows. Like, the fact that you are so outstandingly good at podcasting is a testament to how good you were before, but more the fact that, like, you've been tried by fire here. I think at every turn of coming onto a show you respected, but being put in right there, like, cool, you're going, right? And then on top of that, hey, now you're working from home and now we're coming back and da-da-da-da. And it's like, you can even toss in, of course, then I was in 2021, right? Like, peace for three months, by the way.
Starting point is 00:33:58 a baby. And like, like, this show has been great at evolving and changing and doing it and having that PlayStation motif and giving us a place to play. And like you said, the document in doing stuff and being outside of the box of, well, the previews are supposed to be over there and the news is supposed to be over here. We have to be creative with this show in a way. And I think the creativity of it was fun for us and fun for the audiences. I've seen so many super chats come through and say that, right? But it also then gives it a weird feat. of I don't know if the mission statement of PSI Love You was ever super clear to everybody. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:34:34 Because again, we think holistically of our content, but there are people who, oh, I love PlayStation. And they pop in and it's like, well, why aren't they diving into seven news stories? Well, it's like we did that this morning. You know what I mean? There's that push and pull of it all. I think the show has accomplished everything it did, which was to be a fun PlayStation place. And I'm so thankful for you for bringing it back. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:53 Because I wouldn't have brought it back on my own, you know? Yeah. I think, I mean, somewhere in the, in this document for this episode, there was the question of maybe it was your memories or maybe it is part like did it you want to did it become what we wanted to be and at my desk as I was like
Starting point is 00:35:09 doing the quick swim through of the dock to make sure I knew what was coming in here and talking about as I was going through the road to my brain of what my answers might be to this question one of the ones was talking about like just improve everything you're talking about right now right like my growth from the beginning until here
Starting point is 00:35:26 and my confidence growing from the beginning to hear because like I remember the first KFGD we did in this studio right like I broke into tears and part of that was everything you're talking about where like not only was I nervous for maybe like a year and a half or two years of like working out kind of funny because it's everything you're talking about it is me being on the show that I grew up listening it is me you know sitting across from Greg Miller it is also me in front of the bit the biggest audience that I've ever been in front of right like I was putting out okay beast podcast episodes to what like a hundred people probably per week And that is a different, the chemistry that I had with the OKBs folks is different from the chemistry I had with the kind of funny folks and I had to build that chemistry.
Starting point is 00:36:05 And that's so hard. You know, like it was like, it was like trying to step into a friend group that has been together forever. Been established for just a little bit of time. Yeah, it's not like you naturally came in. You were hired to be a part of this friend group. And so now I'm like, all right, like, how do I do all this? And like on top of that, I'm filling in big shoes, right? Because it is PS I love you.
Starting point is 00:36:22 And I know I'm filling in shoes that are, it's Greg and Colin, right? which is like when I listen to Beyond, I listen to PS I love you, I view that as like the, oh, this is the PlayStation Dynamic Duo. Like it doesn't get bigger than this as far as PlayStation podcast. And so me sitting here for the first however long. And then, yeah, it being work from home. And then it being, it being a ton of stuff, right? It was the George Floyd protest.
Starting point is 00:36:44 It was me being just put on camera constantly. And like I don't want to sound like I'm like blaming kind of funny or whatever because like, y'all just hired me. Like, yeah, this is what you're supposed to do. like you're I the trial by fire aspect was so stressful in the first couple years of doing it and yeah like I think getting to sit in in this studio for the first time and do cave today and feel like I think it was both the oh man thank God I'm finally out of my house and I'm around people doing this but it was also kind of feeling the energy of like oh like I am a different podcaster than I was when I first started here
Starting point is 00:37:18 or when I last sat and did a podcast across from tim or did a podcast in front of Tim or in front of in front of you, right? Like, it felt different in energy. I think so much that just came from the growth in like the confidence step that I felt in myself to be able to stay here and do this and like talk about PlayStation and feel like I'm getting to own those conversations in a way. And I coming in, one of the things I was most nervous about was not being like the PlayStation knowledgeable guy. Because of course, I've had a past PlayStation. I played like so many PlayStation games. I love my PlayStation, right? Shout out to Addison. But, you know, like I was coming in here being like, well, I'm not as smart as calling.
Starting point is 00:37:53 And so like, what am I going to do? Like, it's like, you know, people are expecting to have that level of dynamic. And I, like, flat out. I don't know as much shit as Colin when I'm talking about PlayStation stuff. And so I'm able to step into that role. And when I think back to, let's say, 2022 of finally starting to build, I guess, my own sort of mind palace of PlayStation shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:19 Where it's like, oh, wait, no, like, I know what I'm talking about. like, oh shit, yeah, like there's a 10 PlayStation fucking live service games. I'm sure I can pinpoint this shit, right? Like, there, I think, I don't know when that switch flipped. I don't know what happened. I don't know if it was. It's all about those at-bats, man. That's what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:38:35 When I was, I remember distinctly being on an IGN, AFK of podcast, which was a different podcast they did that they don't think they haven't done, even when I was there, they hadn't done in a decade for the most part, I mean, by the time I left, I guess. Anyways, I was on it and I remember being so in my head about breathing into the microphone, and then also do I really know what I'm saying that I didn't say anything. And at the end, the host was like, and Greg, thanks for coming.
Starting point is 00:38:58 Because I said, Jack, shit. I didn't help him at all on the thing. And it was that thing of like, that's crazy. And then, yeah, for you to be tossed in and for, again, the way it works here, right? Like, remember, you were the first games hire. Like, you were the first person that we hire.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Like, you're a host pretty much, right? Like, sure, we had hired Joey before, but she's doing back end stuff for the most part. Yeah, we've hired Andy, but he started his graphic design and this, that the other. Like, it was like, you were somebody we hire like all right cool make the shows go make shows yeah and i appreciate the trust too right like i i'm still sometimes i am surprised when i think back to you damn they saw me and
Starting point is 00:39:31 they were like oh that's the guy we want to bring and i hire that kind of funny and allowed to like help bring back uh p slo or like you know bring back p s love you because he wants to do it the fact that you you guys wanted to do that with me it's such an honor and like again i hope for you i'm sure for you right like we're at with the show today even though the we're ending the show today it's evolving yeah like I hope that this is what you envision it to be or I hope at the very least like we were able to attain those heights as a PlayStation podcast. A hundred percent. Yeah and again
Starting point is 00:39:57 I think that's what's shocking about it I think is that again you go back to the conversations of you, you wanted to start it, we're hiring you okay, let's go, how we make it different? We did. And I think that again, that is obviously going to be not everybody's cup of tea or whatever but it was the fact that in the pantheon of what we were doing
Starting point is 00:40:15 it couldn't be beyond and it couldn't be volume one PSI I love you. So what is it going to be because of the way the company had changed. And I think it had its own unique, independent, this is what it's going to be. And it was the goofy shit. I know people going through it's way gone there, and I have super chats over here still to get to.
Starting point is 00:40:31 But somebody, of course, shouted out, I think it was Cameron Kennedy, if it was you, sorry. But it was like, I loved the era that was the three of them with Janet here, right? And it was like, yeah, like, that was a special time. And full disclosure, like, I didn't ask Janet to be on this one because I wanted to wind it down you and me the way we started it. But that's one of the reasons I wanted Janet booked,
Starting point is 00:40:48 within, I think it was two weeks ago. Yeah, two weeks ago I had her on because I wanted her to be here one more time through that or whatever. Because Janet is, is, I was gonna say it was, is a fantastic podcast or presenter.
Starting point is 00:40:58 You know how much I love Janet. But like when she got here and took over, like I had so much joy listening to those PSI'd love you's from home with Ben, right? And then to come back and keep her on and suddenly change the dynamic of the show and have it rolled the three of us. Like that was a great time too, let alone then getting back here and having it be,
Starting point is 00:41:16 you know, what she wound out at the end of the year, right? So we've had four months here of you and me getting to do this victory lap because we've known this is coming. We just didn't know when it was coming. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:25 It's funny when I see tweets or comments that are people being like, oh man, I miss Janet. Like this isn't the same without Janet. Of course, that comes off rude. But I read that. I'm like, I agree. Like I think Janet, of course, like me and you are me and you, right? But like I love Janet being on the show so much. And I think like, you know, having those months where it was just us too and you're,
Starting point is 00:41:47 off during the parental leave and we had to figure it out and build that dynamic. For me, I know this is probably like, you know, hyperbole in a way and allow me to be hyperbolic. But you're allowed to be hyperbolic on your last episode of the show. But like for me, I looked at me and Janet the way that like I envision like Greg and Colin back during beyond, right? Where I'm like, oh, this works. Like this dynamic works. Like we have like, me and Janet have like a shared sort of like sense of humor. I think Janet's hilarious. I don't think I've said that on a show because I'm bad at giving people their flowers when they're still on. But like, Jan will crack jokes and like we would move on talking, but I'm thinking like, dude, that was so
Starting point is 00:42:27 fucking funny what she just said. I don't know if people caught the, like, when she, I forget what game we were talking about where she's like, that shit is a two pack of ass. And we did, I remember you laughing at that and me being like, damn, that is so fucking funny. Like that's such a fucking funny thing to say. But also like, she was somebody who's willing to keep it real. And I think people underestimate how hard that is on a PlayStation podcast to come out and be able to be. like, the uncharted is overrated.
Starting point is 00:42:48 Oh, like, let me, like, be able to keep it real about PlayStation. Well, first off, I mean, that's a fucking dumb opinion,
Starting point is 00:42:52 but okay. But like, you know, I try to retain that. And I think, you know, I even as I started with my, what I was talking about
Starting point is 00:42:59 early in this episode of me, even like trying to like, not back off of the being a PlayStation guy thing, but more so me trying to double down on like, yo, I think for me, I like PlayStation, I play on PlayStation my whole life,
Starting point is 00:43:09 right? But like, you know, I think there are so many different avenues can take, we're talking about, uh, games, my goal is to keep it as real as possible, but even knowing that, right?
Starting point is 00:43:18 Like, there are some times where I'm like, all right, I'm not going to shit on PlayStation about this thing right now because I know, like, I want to make sure I'm saving that for the right time. So I'll do this out of another part of this conversation. Like, you get what I'm talking about. Janet doesn't go to fuck. And the fact that she's like, you know, she is willing to keep it real at all times, be willing to be like, hey, if comments want to hate on me for like hating on PlayStation or
Starting point is 00:43:42 being critical PlayStation, listen. and fucking go for it. I am here to speak the truth. I am here to be real. I am not here to speak her truth. Speak her truth. Again, uncharted, not overreed. She might have been right about that.
Starting point is 00:43:52 But like, you know, I think that makes for such a good dynamic, especially for when it was the three of us. Because you have, you have Greg Miller as the PlayStation guy who's been PlayStation podcasting for over a decade. PlayStation VR2's biggest fan. Yeah. You have me and I think who's probably somewhere in the middle. Then you have Janet who's like, listen, I'll talk all the shit you need me to.
Starting point is 00:44:13 And I feel like it just made for a really good energy and a really good flow. And I think, you know, when we first brought on Janet, that was like the key. That was like the, oh, snap, all right, we got something here. Like, this is taking it to another level. So shout out to Janet. Shout out to Janet indeed.
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Starting point is 00:45:59 And mom, if you see this before you get your ORA Frame for Mother's Day, please act surprised. One of my little bullet points here, of course, is favorite memories from the show. But I thought more importantly your favorite PlayStation game slash hardware we call. covered during the show. And as if this is the kind of audience we have. I didn't even need to say those bullet points out loud. We already have comments from the super chats about that. I appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:46:21 I want to go to TriForce's Power who writes, Bless Being Hired is what made me a kind of funny best friend. My favorite memory is Greg opening the portal. By the way, I'm also from Ohio. At least we are in Kansas. That's very true. But it's funny because for me when I wrote favorite game we covered during the show, I went back and put slash hardware so that I could give the portal it's flowers.
Starting point is 00:46:40 because I'll tell you motherfuckers right now I love the PlayStation portal I when we when this thing was coming up this isn't even a bit but you can do the slow zoom when this thing was coming up and I said I'm the remote play guy remote play every night I use the backbone yetta yada yada all that was true but even when I got in the portal I was like how much am I really gonna I use this thing
Starting point is 00:46:59 every fucking night my wife's been away out of family emergency for a week I've been I'll go up there bus put bend to sleep I'm exhausted I'm like you know what I'll take a shower I'll come into bed I'll get cold play Moon Globe on it. I'm like, this is the fucking life right now. This is the fucking life. PlayStation Portal, I love you.
Starting point is 00:47:17 Favorite game size, I mean, hardware, PS5. Like the PS5 launch was such a, was such a fun one for how much there was to talk about how much there was to cover. I almost wish we could go back and do it again. Just like, I mean, here. Outside of COVID.
Starting point is 00:47:30 Me now, like, having way more experience. Gotcha. I feel like I could go back and do so many things, so many, so much better. I probably would have played through Demon Souls. Like, you know, I would have. would have loved to, like, give the Miles Morales review another shot. Not that, like, I,
Starting point is 00:47:44 I spoke my truth and, like, you know, I would, like, I wouldn't change the things I said during the Miles Morales review, but I feel like a 2020 for me could have communicated some of those points better. Sure. I'm not gone back and watched that episode, maybe it's fine, but, like, I don't know, for some reason I think back to it. It was a joke we all come back to how much you hate it. So it's like, clearly, I don't, I don't even hate it. I remember, but I remember we just drove at home somewhere. Yeah. But, like, there was that. There was, yeah, like, talking about Astro's, uh, playroom. Also, man, being like, in that first wave of
Starting point is 00:48:11 like it's there's a thing you talked about I forget if it was on a show or if it was in a meeting where you mentioned that like one of the things you learned from IGN as far as like how to go about coverage was when you have a game for a review you're the expert
Starting point is 00:48:26 until it gets out into people's hands and then like they become the experts or whatever and like you know seeing the like any little thing that we can say about like any unique detail or coverage or anything seeing how that could catch fire and saying how like oh shit, there is so much weight in what I'm saying about the PS5 because it's not out there yet
Starting point is 00:48:43 and people really, really, really care about this. I remember like being referenced in a news story about how you could use your USB C connect like headphones to like listen to the PlayStation audio and me being like, no, that's not true. Like I am just wearing an extra pair of headphones and it's not connected and me being like, no, like stop covering me giant bomb. But like stuff like that, I just found so fun and found so like, oh shit, this is really cool. I think for game, So I think Returnal might have been my favorite thing. Wow. Yeah, I just loved Returnals so much.
Starting point is 00:49:14 And it was so exciting for it being this out of nowhere. Like, out of nowhere in the way that it's a big PlayStation thing, right? Like, I think at the time, it's like, well, it's a how smart game so you can expect something good. But I don't think we were expecting like, oh, like, good with the year contender. This is going to be fucking awesome. And having my, I had a Twitter video of my controller just on my desk with the raindrop sounds. And that went viral. I'm like, this fucking cool, man.
Starting point is 00:49:34 I love getting to talk about this. PlayStation 5 is a great call out, right? because again, like, it's ridiculous to think about the fact that we're coming up on a decade of kind of funny in January. I've been doing it nine plus years now. I've been doing this for 17 years now. And that PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X, but for this argument, is the only, like, PlayStation console that's launched during kind of funny. Yeah. Right? That PlayStation 4 was at IGN. We were still there. Well, yeah, yeah, of course, PSVR-1. But I mean, like, I'm talking about, like, something people, everyone cared about. Where it's like, you know, to make sure we're on the
Starting point is 00:50:07 list and do the thing. And then it's during COVID. So like, you know, being at home and me and Lucy James, like, waiting for the UPS notification to run downstairs to get the thing and then making all this content. And then like, yeah, like you're talking about like trying to take all the things I think a hardcore PlayStation person like myself would care about and make content about that, right? Of like dragging my end table in front of the camera to record powering on for the first time and looking at trophy for the first time. Which I had never done an unboxing before and I was like I as I was doing it I was like I don't think this is a good unboxing but whatever I'm gonna do it anyway and like yeah that was such a that was such a fun one like I I can't wait for
Starting point is 00:50:45 the PlayStation 6 which feels so weird to say but like you know if by then PlayStation 5 pro I'm sure by then we would have done another refresh and brought back PSLW and took it down again but like no matter what right like I can't wait for whatever that cycle looks like yeah yeah of course that like even if you're like I've retired by then like I hope to come back never I'll never I'm going to retire to over about that. You know, another one, you bring out PlayStation VR2. Of course, that is another, I think, a special moment for me.
Starting point is 00:51:13 And again, I know it might be hard for you to wrap your head around because this is your job. But, you know, how I plan and how I like to be meticulous and how I want these things to be great and have all this stuff. Like, of course, Jen's mom passed away in PlayStation VR2 coverage land there of a review. So dropping everything and running to Canada, but having it be that you obviously had your hand on the wheel already,
Starting point is 00:51:37 Janet being ready to step up, PlayStation being nice enough to send another unit to Janet because ours were obviously here and it was a whole thing of how do I get, blah, blah, blah. Like the fact that I know how great our team is, and I know how they rise to every challenge, but when those kind of moments actually happen, the emergency rubber meets the road kind of thing, the fact that we didn't miss a beat and we went with it and it was great.
Starting point is 00:51:57 And then while not a PSI love you specific memory, it's related to PlayStation VR, every so often I'll still go back and watch that clip where I fall on the PlayStation VR2 box for fun
Starting point is 00:52:08 in your reaction I just go down and you put up one hand and then you see the paper towels and you realize I'm fucking faking it and you start dying that was a really good one
Starting point is 00:52:16 that was a really good it was a stream for PlayStation VR2 launch but it's it's one of my cherished social media memories to look back at all the time yeah
Starting point is 00:52:23 also like another game Ratchet and Clank Rift apart sure I think I don't know why that one in particular stands out to me maybe because it was that was the first post
Starting point is 00:52:31 PS5 bigger IP game to come out. Oh, nice finding this clip. Yeah, great job, Barry. Give it away, there's someone in the chat. All right. All we need you to do, of course, is go in there, put hashtag PlayStation VR2. Oh, no!
Starting point is 00:52:50 Oh, no! It's the only what we can. I love this, because this... No! this is also in the midst of us getting so much shit from the PSCR2 community because like our review wasn't a super positive like oh you must get out and get it kind of review
Starting point is 00:53:18 so we're in a weird way out of all the things I've said on these shows and I've said a lot that I feel like I should get shit for a lot hours yeah like I've said like there's so many things that be recorded and I'm like I'll come off a podcast and be like oh man I might went too hard the PSVR 2 review might have been the worst shit I've ever gotten out of
Starting point is 00:53:36 any piece of content. And it was like weeks of people like tweeting at me being like, oh, you fucking hate PSVR too. And I'm like, I gave it a three. What do you, out of five? Like, what do you want for me? I don't know. It's okay. But yeah, like you're doing that in the midst of all that was so funny to me. This is just the best. It's really good. Mr. Hawks 1-8-2 writes in and says,
Starting point is 00:53:54 do you guys kind of funny PSI-L-W-X-Cast want to apologize for inspiring so many people, including my dumb self, to start a podcast. Also, blessing rules. no you rule well of course not we don't want to apologize for that i think that's you know you look at blessing here and you know finding inspiration beyond all those years ago like that's the fun part of this is when somebody finally realizes that man i wish i could wait i could do that yeah i just need turn my phone around and talk and do with my friend or whatever and like start going and learning
Starting point is 00:54:21 and changing all that that's always awesome yeah it's crazy to me to think that you know it's the pipeline continues now with you know this yeah exactly yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah starting podcast because they're hearing me and you talk. And I'm like, that's crazy because I did the same thing because I heard you and Colin talk and it's wild. Sky's back.
Starting point is 00:54:41 I like this one a lot. My favorite memory was Parasite Eve making the final round of the which PlayStation franchise should be resurrected bracket. I still rewatch that occasionally. Yeah, that was really good. Remember how we just,
Starting point is 00:54:51 we kept hyping ourselves up for Excite Eve? And if Kozima directs it. That was the only reason why they're like, but think about if Kachima brought back Paraside Eve. Two people that have not even touched Parasite Eve. Yeah, like on my bullet points
Starting point is 00:55:05 here, I have that. The bracket episodes always were bangers. Always great. That's why they will return, don't worry. Yeah, I like the PlayStation Awards at the end of the year. The Under-Radies, I don't know if you remember that one. Yeah, I know. We did it every year. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I know. We did, I think, one time. Oh, and then it evolved into the
Starting point is 00:55:21 awards, right? Yeah, but it was like the early, it was like in the previous studio, in the first two months. And it was the thing of you, were like any ideas for the episode and I'm like what if you did like the most underrated games that you'd turn that and turn into the underrated yeah but I was like the first special episode of PSL of you quote unquote where it's dress up and we're gonna have special I love the drinking episodes yeah oh whatever we could drink you know yeah I remember my first I remember being distraught because like one of the early ones during the pandemic where I drank just too much whiskey because I didn't know that whiskey would get me drunk that quickly and I like read the comments we were like
Starting point is 00:55:54 blessing's drunk and I was like fuck I know shit I thought I was hiding it but I said the same one where you played one of the Souls games or whatever and the hand freaked you out? No, no, that was way later. Okay, okay, just making sure I understood. Citizen Chang writes in and says, PS, I Love You, XO, XO, XO was my intro to kind of funny during COVID leading up to the PS5 launch.
Starting point is 00:56:12 Have loved the conversations and look forward to the evolution. Thanks. Thank you. Don't worry about it. Noble is here and says PS, I miss you, XO, XO. Thanks for everything. You don't miss this for long. We'll be back with this beautiful PlayStation set
Starting point is 00:56:24 anytime we're talking about PlayStation, which will be often. And I've also seen people worrying about the awesome PSI Love You intro, the awesome Xcast intro. Again, we're going to play fast and loose with that. We're going to play with those when we do the exclusive episodes, I bet, or not exclusive episodes, but PlayStation specific, Xbox, you know, Xbox specific. Thank you so much. And of course, I didn't say it yet. If you want to, if you're like, oh, man, I wish I could follow you, but five days of gamescast is too much content, we are planning on keeping PSI
Starting point is 00:56:52 Love You and Xcast podcast feeds active. So if it is, we're reviewing Noddy Dogs next exclusive or whatever, that will be served as a PSI Love You on the podcast feed as well as Gamescast, so you could stay over there and be fine. Nice. One over here, Rocksteady Nitty's got a great question. Would you rather fight a shoe hay-sized PlayStation-sized shoe hay? Wait. A PlayStation-sized shoe-hay. So a PS-5 we're going to go off of. Oh, that's big. So shoe-hay is big as a PlayStation 5 or a PlayStation 5 as big as shoehead. You gotta go with the PlayStation 5 just beat the shit out of this in Adam object.
Starting point is 00:57:28 Yeah, PlayStation 5 as big as shoe hay might still be a smaller PlayStation 5. Is it like an alive PlayStation 5 that's coming after you? And how much PlayStation 5? Just a straight PlayStation 5? I can take, I feel like I could take out of PlayStation 5. If it was a PS3, I'm not fine to PS3. PS3, like the OG.
Starting point is 00:57:44 Yeah, OG PS3, I'm not fighting that thing. You can't get that. Nobody can ever get by that. PS4. I'll take out a PS4 also. Just I can kick through it. Sharp edges. Think about the PS4. Does have sharp edges, you're right. But if I get to the side of it, it's over.
Starting point is 00:57:56 It stabs you in the eye, though, with one of its edges. You're going to have to get that angle. We're winding down here, so this is your final chat for super chats. One of the things we originally joked around about with this one, was like, maybe we do a time capsule episode where we go through and what do you want, hopes and dreams, yet, yada. I had forgotten that we did that. Did you remember we did that?
Starting point is 00:58:13 Oh, yeah, we did. PlayStation 5, seven years later. PSI Love You Exo XO, XO, Episode 71. We're burying a PlayStation 5 time capsule. Join Greg and Blessing as they make this podcast packed with questions. dreams, and hopes for where the PlayStation's at on May 25th,
Starting point is 00:58:27 2028. Oh, we're creeping up on it. It's closer than you. Yeah, actually, that's actually, yeah,
Starting point is 00:58:33 closer, that's too close for comfort. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I can't wait to open that up. I, it's funny because I ran into it
Starting point is 00:58:38 in the headlines when I was looking at the day. I was like, oh, I got to put on the calendar and I went tab, tap, tap, tap, tap, tab, all the way to 2020.
Starting point is 00:58:42 It was already there. Damn. Like, like, God, we're good. I mean, because of that I did write some hopes, though.
Starting point is 00:58:46 Okay. I want a dark cloud revival. Give me dark cloud. Yeah. Where the fuck is dark cloud? Bring back Japan Studio energy is also what I put down. You know, I kind of miss like that Japan Studio side of things. I mentioned during my Stellar Blade review that like,
Starting point is 00:59:00 seller blade feels like a game that would come out from Japan Studio or like through Japan Studio. Yeah. I don't know. I want more weird shit. I want more smaller shit. Weird shit for sure. Odie on my list. And I think again, again, one of my reasons of like, cool, the games cast makes sense is just like,
Starting point is 00:59:15 it's so few and far between that there's like a big shaking thing happening at PlayStation right now and that'll change I know, but blah. But even when it does come back and the first parties are firing and yada yada yada,
Starting point is 00:59:25 I still think it won't be so crazy as it was in beyond PS3 where it was that fucking here's last guy and here's this crazy thing and that's happening in this studio and like there was just like like da da da da da da
Starting point is 00:59:36 like PlayStation is slimmed down so much to what they are that in Xbox to a degree as well right where it's like even when the dominoes we always talk about start to fall. You cover that giant flare up at SGF in the summer, right?
Starting point is 00:59:49 And then you come back to the center of what the games industry is. And then the other one I have here is more new IPs. Kind of goes in line with the other couple. But like, yeah, I want to see more of that like returnal style. Hey, let's find a studio that has a lot of potential and given the budget, given the power and let them make
Starting point is 01:00:05 something new and fresh and returnals like everything I wanted out of a PlayStation first party. I wrote on hopes and fears. And the fears that I have to do. I think, simple, right? Is that they don't go back to that. You know what I mean? Again, like to talk about PlayStation 3 into PlayStation 4, PlayStation had this
Starting point is 01:00:23 identity and energy. And I think this might actually be a better way to put it than you were talking about of like them being the same, right? I think PlayStation just its identity has been eroded or changed and it's gone to being such a it's PlayStation. They have the first parties and they make those big games and since
Starting point is 01:00:39 there's none of those big games right now, it's just quiet on the Western Front thing, right? Whereas it used to be PlayStation was Adam and shoe sharing the thing. It was Jack Trenton, you know, fucking grinning like an idiot up there being hilarious. It was these crazy in PS3. It was exclusive every month. It was all these different things.
Starting point is 01:00:55 Whereas now it's like, all right, cool. It's the box I play a lot of my games on and stuff. Like, I'm happy with that box. I love my trophies and stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah, like there's not, you don't have those faces anymore as well, you know? Like, I mentioned, you know, like Adam and shoe, you don't see. I guess Adam doesn't work. There's a reason we don't see Adam boys anymore. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:10 Like, you don't see as much. Yeah, I don't know. Like, I, the fear I have is kind of connected to that, but the games and service stuff, you know, I don't want to see that. I don't want to see that implode in a way that is catastrophic. Sure. That's the fear.
Starting point is 01:01:26 I feel like it's going to implode in a way. Or maybe they just like dial it down. Hey, look at Helldivers. Yeah, I mean, Hell divers is killing it. But again, one of the crazy things, right, as we were talking about yesterday, NPD, or well, CERConna numbers right now, right? Hell divers.
Starting point is 01:01:39 Top seven most highest grossing PlayStation games of all time. However, you remove the PC sales and it wouldn't even be in the top 20. It's like, aye, okay, so again, I would imagine more PC PlayStation titles, right, day and date. Another fear is PlayStation becoming even more premium and expensive. You know, it's been like a big thing
Starting point is 01:01:57 this generation of games being $70 and all this stuff, right? And it's, on one hand, I'm like, well, games are expensive to make, like, I'm sure $70 is probably the only way to, like, change it to keep this stuff somewhat sustainable. But, like, one of the things this generation that we've gotten between PSVR2 and Portal
Starting point is 01:02:13 and the new headphones and all in like all this stuff. And I like a lot, I like most of the stuff. Hell yeah, you do. But it almost feels like PlayStation is serving, hey, we're gonna make like fucking premium. You got hundreds of bucks to spend. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'd love to see more of like that wealth gets spread around.
Starting point is 01:02:29 Like more, like, do we, and I was, you're gonna disagree with this, but I'm like, do we need a PlayStation portal or could we like make a peripheral that might speak to more people? Like, could we like maybe bring it down a little bit. What's the peripheral that would speak to more people? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:02:42 But like, I don't, I feel like, First off, do you need a PlayStation portal? Of course not. Yeah. Of course you don't. My backbone and my phone were working just fine. But this is way sexier and I like this. I guess the comparison I would make would be Xbox Design Labs.
Starting point is 01:02:53 And like I feel like on the Xbox side you get a lot of accessories that feel a bit more like, ah shit, like this is kind of, like, I feel like more people are interested and they're more excited for more people. Whereas like, PlayStation Portal, if you're, you're speaking to a very narrow amount of people who are like, Greg Miller's are going to show up for this thing. We did. I don't know. I guess I just want to see more from the accessory side.
Starting point is 01:03:14 Go back to Vita Island, people are saying, come on, you have another handheld out there, but just make it a PlayStation 5 handled. You know what I mean? All that too, yeah, maybe we go. Vita too. Final super chat, before I close it down, comes from Galaxy lore.
Starting point is 01:03:27 My favorite memory, everybody's face when Jim Ryan came on screen during the 2023 showcase and said they were showing their final game, mean worthy. When we were talking about the PlayStation showcase that, it was like, what? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:38 What the fuck is this? This is how it's going to be? I digress. ladies and gentlemen, many of you have been with me a very, very long time, and I have good news for you. Next week on the Kind of Funny Gamescast, it's your chance to take me to task. On Tuesday, we're doing a Gamescast called Why We're Changing the Kind of Funny Review Scale, where we will debate a new review scale and come up with it alongside you. Then, on Wednesday, the Gamescast is going to be looking back at Greg Miller's worst gaming takes.
Starting point is 01:04:07 You've followed me a long time. You've heard me say a lot of different things about a lot of different games. this is your chance to air your grievances. Okay? This is your chance to air your grievances. You can call in 573-203-503-5374. Again, that's 573-203-5374. You leave up to a 60-second message.
Starting point is 01:04:36 If you go over, I'll delete it, it'll be gone. I'm going to go through and make all these voicemails, hand them over to Barrett. For that there. kind of funny games cast to see in my 17 year career what I've gotten wrong which isn't much honestly there's the obvious one should have given Peace Walker at 10 my biggest regret you played it you loved it I mean yeah but I never finished it
Starting point is 01:04:57 that's because you got that's a you problem yeah or like it's not as entertaining as the other Metal Gear's you know not sure what's better a million years on four I can put it down better better Belgrade that more than giving Spider-Man web of shadows a 5.3 out of 10 again I feel like this might be a flawed concept of a games cast because I feel like Greg Miller is not going to he's not going to like hear any of these and go
Starting point is 01:05:19 yeah I was wrong I feel like you're going to double down on every single one you know what we all know we all know Web of Shadows is a sticking point I'm happy to tell you that next week Wednesday after the airing of grievances you send to 5773-203-5374 when you call and leave voicemail we are streaming Web of Shadows
Starting point is 01:05:40 yeah we are playing it, my first time playing it since I reviewed it. We'll see if I was right on the money or wrong. I'll be the one that's right. What would you have given it? I don't know. I was in high school. All right. They church your fucking face.
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